[00:00] <fwaokda> thanks
[00:00] <aleksio> can anyone help me with ffmpeg?
[00:00] <syslq78> fwaokda, nohup programname
[00:00] <k5ehx> hello, KB1JWQ
[00:00] <KB1JWQ> mcphail: Some systems will kill any backgrounded task opened within a specific terminal when that terminal dies.
[00:00] <khazil> Okay: there's certainly no reason not to use proprietary drivers, but charging for something that's included in Windows drivers is a little... questionable
[00:00] <KB1JWQ> k5ehx: Helo.
[00:00] <syslq78> fwaokda,  nohup tells app to ignore sighup signal
[00:00] <rpx__> anyone that is good with alsa?
[00:00] <fwaokda> mcphail, didn't work :(
[00:00] <Apollo2366> mcphail, is there a guide to using ardour?
[00:01] <k5ehx> anybody have pointers on troubleshooting Xorg startups? I seem to have the right module loaded in the kernel, but I don't really know how to deal with modules / drivers in xorg
[00:01] <Okay> khazil, yeah, I read about some alternatives, but they seem to all have downsides to them
[00:01] <KB1JWQ> fwaokda: As I said, run it inside of a screen session.  You can reattach later with screen -x
[00:01] <skellington> mcphail: im on an asus eeepc 1000ha with an hdd, not an ssd. i was really just wondering what applications i could remove to speed up my boot even more. (it's faster than winxp as it is)
[00:01] <mcphail> Apollo2366: yes - tutorial on the web page. It is a complex and powerful piece of kit
[00:01] <KB1JWQ> k5ehx: The X log is your friend.
[00:01] <mazda01> anyone else use phpmyadmin in jaunty and got it working?
[00:01] <fwaokda> syslq78, doing 'nohup command' seemed to work thanks
[00:01] <khazil> Okay: it's probably impossible to work around kernel software
[00:02] <mcphail> skellington: for a start, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to remove the countdown from the grub menu
[00:02] <syslq78> fwaokda, you can also suspend it with ctrl+z, than put it to background with bg and use disown -h job_id to detach it from parent process, if it's already running
[00:02] <k5ehx> KB1JWQ: yeah, it's not being very friendly though. Just says "saw signal 11" and has "intel_drv" in the traceback.
[00:02] <syslq78> fwaokda, np
[00:02] <Ramonster> !ssl
[00:02] <Ramonster> !openssl
[00:02] <Ramonster> !open ssl
[00:02] <skellington> mcphail: did that already.
[00:02]  * laclasse has fruit pastilles
[00:02] <Ramonster> !lib
[00:02] <Socah> laclasse, should esd-common be related to almost whole gnome?
[00:02] <eka> swapon problem??
[00:02] <KB1JWQ> !botabuse
[00:03] <laclasse> Socah, esd = Enlightment Sound Daemon
[00:03] <mcphail> skellington: the eeebuntu forums have a few tips on speeding up boot. Will probably apply to ubuntu as well
[00:03] <tavi> Hey all: I'm having an issue with dual displays in ubuntu. When I try to drag a window to my 2nd screen, it stops at the edge and doesn't let me fully utilize it. Any suggestions?
[00:03] <jdudeski> I'm trying to fix the intel video bug and I've got the instructions, but I just can't get to anywhere to fix it... GDM freezes, none of the grub boot options which are useful are getting me to any shell I can carry out the commands... Anyone know of any way to get around the freeze on boot? The guide I'm trying to follow is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[00:03] <k5ehx> jdudeski: I think that's what is happening to me, maybe
[00:03] <skellington> mcphail: ill have a gander, may have a fix for my wpa problem as well. one more question, is xfce faster than gnome?
[00:03] <jdudeski> k5ehx: likely, you have intel onboard?
[00:03] <Ramonster> I get this error when I try ./configure... checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries, what ssl libs do I need... got OpenSSL..? :)
[00:04] <k5ehx> jdudeski: it's a notebook, 945GM or some such
[00:04] <jdudeski> XFCE is faster than gnome, yes skellington
[00:04] <aleksio> more than 1000 users online and nobody knows nothing about ffmpeg?
[00:04] <laclasse> Socah, esd is dated ...it uses OSS ... so esd works with also only across the oss compat module: asoundconf set-oss PARAMETER
[00:04] <Okay> khazil, guess I should have installed a windows partition huh?
[00:04] <jdudeski> yeah k5ehx, you're bitten by the bug
[00:04] <mcphail> skellington: not really. You can strip gnome down and it will run almost as fast
[00:04] <k5ehx> aleksio: use avidemux
[00:04] <Evelina> Thank you all! I got my cron job and rtcwake working as it should. At least it seem to work! Thanks for all help.
[00:04] <cuddlefish> Tavi: you have tried all the screen edges?
[00:04] <KB1JWQ> Ramonster: Source build isn't really the ubuntu way.
[00:04] <nsadmin> where's k5land?
[00:04] <k5ehx> nsadmin: oklahoma here, tulsa
[00:04] <arand> How do I send two notifications that will stack (both shows simultaneously) using notify-sedn from CLI?
[00:04] <aleksio> k5ehx: tnx, i'll try it
[00:04] <laclasse> Socah, but not sure if e17 doe not use it
[00:04] <skellington> alright guys, thanks
[00:04] <khazil> Okay: Or just pay for software that works
[00:04] <KB1JWQ> Ramonster: What're you trying to install?
[00:04] <jdudeski> k5ehx: freeze up on boot? can't get to anywhere to fix it?
[00:04] <khazil> Okay: alternatively, you can buy hardware that works
[00:05] <arand> s/notify-sedn/notify-send/
[00:05] <tavi> cuddlefish: Yeah, it's the correct edge becuaes it's dragging onto the second screen partially. But it's acting like it's not really dual display--it also isnt letting me right click on the Desktop of the 2nd display
[00:05] <Ramonster> KBIJWQ: Arcemu core; a WoW Private Server :P
[00:05] <nsadmin> so also say texas, arizona and NM?
[00:05] <khazil> Okay: is this a parallel port printer, or USB?
[00:05] <Ramonster> KBIJWQ: Their IRC Isnt realy helpfull tho
[00:05] <Okay> it's usb
[00:05] <KB1JWQ> Ramonster: That's a 1, not an I in my nick.
[00:05] <cuddlefish> And there's only one mouse pointer? (Just trying to rule out all the noob questions)
[00:06] <KB1JWQ> Ramonster: And yeah, good luck with that. :)
[00:06] <khazil> Okay: then you can use Sun's proprietary (but free) xVM, run windows and pass through the printer driver
[00:06] <hilltop> help please: what is Super in the hot keys?  Thanks
[00:06] <Ramonster> KB1JWQ: im sorry :P
[00:06] <Pici> hilltop: Generally the 'windows' key
[00:06] <Okay> khazil, okay. I'll go give that a try
[00:06] <KB1JWQ> Ramonster: Mistype someone's nick and they don't get flagged; they'll miss your post in a busy channel like this. Type the first couple letters than hit tab, it'll autocomplete.
[00:06] <Okay> khazil, is it guaranteed to work though?
[00:07] <FloridaGuy> does ubuntu have a gui to configure the display....like in mandriva...and in fedora there is yum install config-display
[00:07] <hilltop> Oh, great. My old thinkpad has no window key.  Thanks pici
[00:07] <Ramonster> KB1JWQ, ah.. thanks.. Knew it was something with tab but just couldnt figure it out :P
[00:07] <Apollo2366> mcphail, Ok, I've been looking for it, but I don't see it anywhere
[00:07] <khazil> Okay: It's non-trivial though, not guaranteed, and not convenient
[00:07] <stroyan> Ramonster: You may want "sudo apt-get install libssl-dev".
[00:07] <aleksio> k5ehx: avidemux can work with mkv files?
[00:07] <khazil> Okay: I take it this printer is too new to send to the junk heap, but too old to return
[00:08] <Ramonster> stroyan, libssl-dev is already the newest version.
[00:08] <k5ehx> aleksio: I believe it uses ffmpeg
[00:08] <Okay> khazil, you got that right
[00:08] <mcphail> Apollo2366: http://ardour.org/files/manual/index.html
[00:08] <k5ehx> aleksio: but it's a lot easier to use if it does
[00:08] <Apollo2366> mcphail, thanks
[00:08] <aleksio> k5ehx: thank you
[00:08] <Ramonster> stroyan, this is a new error.. the -lcompat works now :P But then this showed up :(
[00:09] <rpx__> help to debug alsa -- no sound gives good karma (http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e8be8c6ba3f70045bb1bd35954b3aa70f8d71725)
[00:09] <erikk71> how do change the time so thats its not in military time
[00:09] <khazil> Okay: can you try using the mp160 drivers first, to see if that's acceptable?
[00:09] <nsadmin> no sound gives good karma?
[00:09] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, no need to install here. Just go to System -> Preferences -> Display
[00:09] <Ramonster> stroyan, this is the output i get: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[00:10] <rpx__> nsadmin: no sound gives peace but no karma... do you know how to read that url (http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e8be8c6ba3f70045bb1bd35954b3aa70f8d71725)
[00:10] <FloridaGuy> laclasse, that dont work for me...i need to get more res then what that shows
[00:11] <khazil> Okay: do you happen to have an ancient machine you could use as a Windows printer server?
[00:11] <nsadmin> the http is the protocol... the www.alsa-project.org is the machine...
[00:11] <bastidrazor> Ramonster, libssl0.9.8 if you're on an updated jaunty
[00:11] <Okay> khazil, no. that's not a possibility
[00:11] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, what gfx card/monitor dos you have, what can it do and what does default ubuntu does?
[00:12] <Ramonster> bastidrazor: libssl0.9.8 is already the newest version.
[00:12] <rpx__> nsadmin: hehe, true.. so they recommended on the help pages for sound debuging to run a script to produce this page... unfort. I am not able to find the problem
[00:12] <hilltop> There seem to be two virtual desktops show at foot of screen How do I set up more, like 4?  Thanks
[00:12] <erikk71> how i fix the time it keeps showing it in military time
[00:12] <Okay> khazil, maybe i'll just use turboprint's trial for 30 days and then uninstall then reinstall
[00:12] <nsadmin> rpx__: oh, it's the output of the script... show that url on #alsa
[00:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Whenever I unplug my laptop, it suspends. How can I change that behaviour?
[00:12] <Ramonster> Isnt there a way to find out what libs you need?
[00:13] <laclasse> Ramonster, if you are trying to build something install the dev packages
[00:13] <Shazburg> hilltop: Right click on it and go to Preferences.
[00:13] <rpx__> nsadmin: I tried but no one there :(
[00:13] <nsadmin> Ramonster that's what package dependencies are for
[00:13] <laclasse> Ramonster, you need "libssl-dev" it seems
[00:13] <FloridaGuy> laclasse,  i have nvidia g6....im useing my polaroid tv with monitor on it...ubuntu only wants to give 1040 on res..when in mandriva i can get 1280/1040
[00:14] <LurkersA> Hey all. Just put a new install of Jaunty on a Laptop to replace the intrepid instance. Put it into standby before, and now it no longer realizes it has a built in keyboard or trackpad. Logging in with an external keyboard resulted in a comment by X.org saying it had reset to default instance. Google has a few examples of this on ubuntu forums but no solutions. ideas?
[00:14] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, prop nvidia drivers installed?
[00:14] <Lenaud01> anyone here use synce?
[00:14] <FloridaGuy> yep
[00:14] <khazil> Okay: yeah, you might as well just do that, but it definitely won't be that easy to clean up
[00:14] <Ramonster> laclasse, libssl-dev is already the newest version.
[00:14] <cuddlefish> hilltop: right click on them, Preferences.
[00:14] <stroyan> Ramonster: This page lists dependencies- http://www.arcemu.info/wiki/index.php?title=Compiling:_Linux   But libssl-dev should be resolving the current configure error.
[00:14] <khazil> Okay: OSS4 used to let you do that (before it was open sourced)
[00:15] <Lenaud01> FloridaGuy, you get evolution working
[00:15] <laclasse> Ramonster, tell WoW their configure script sucks ;-)
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[00:15] <erikk71> hello
[00:15] <Ramonster> stroyan: I already got libssl-dev, updated and all
[00:15] <Shazburg> cuddlefish: Happens to the best of us, mate.
[00:15] <Apollo2366> mcphail, I'm having the exact same problem as I was with audacity. I'm attempting to simply combine two .wav files with a little bit of silence in between them. I do this and it plays wonderfully in the editor, but when I export, the file will not play in any application.
[00:15] <erikk71> how do i fix the time in ubuntu
[00:15] <FloridaGuy> Lenaud01, never used evolution
[00:16] <cuddlefish> Erikk, what desktop enviroment are you using?
[00:16] <nsadmin> what time is it in ubuntu?
[00:16] <erikk71> xfce
[00:16] <Lenaud01> what you use synce for
[00:16] <Ramonster> laclasse, will do :P
[00:16] <stroyan> Ramonster: You will need to delve into exactly what the configure script is looking for.  It isn't explaining its needs very well.
[00:16] <erikk71> its in military time format
[00:16] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, please report a bug if you can. You can i guess force the coonfig in Xorg (/etc/X11/xorg.conf), google for xorg.conf and you will find examples. But its interesting that it is not detected
[00:16] <Ramonster> stroyan, got all those files
[00:16] <cuddlefish> erikk71: go to #xubuntu
[00:16] <bastidrazor> erikk71, try #xubuntu
[00:17] <cuddlefish> lol
[00:17] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, is the Tv recent? maybe the EID db is not up to date
[00:17] <FloridaGuy> laclasse, thats why i was woundering if ubuntu had a gui for configure it
[00:18] <Ramonster> stroyan: this is the ./configure: ./configure prefix=/home/arcemu/server --enable-lua-scripting --enable-collision --enable-debug
[00:18] <khazil> Okay: next time check out openprinting's database, "paperweights" are clearly labeled
[00:18] <FloridaGuy> laclasse, every other distro it works great in
[00:18] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, you said a nVidia card right? gksudo nvidia-settings will give you a gui
[00:18] <FloridaGuy> its about 2 yrs old
[00:18] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, not to manually assign resolution no, and the more we go, the more things will get auto detected, as devices become a bit more clever.
[00:18] <erikk71> damn
[00:18] <syslq78> Anyone having weird VLC behaviour while resizing version 1.0.0?
[00:18] <FloridaGuy> ok
[00:19] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, hence why i insist on filing a bug
[00:19] <Okay> khazil, okay. thanks a lot
[00:19] <FloridaGuy> gota go shampo some carpet
[00:19] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, or maybe try karmic, just for curiosity
[00:19] <FloridaGuy> k
[00:19] <r3l1c> pidgin question here. Transparent chat window? Any ideas?
[00:19] <stroyan> Ramonster: Try "bash -x ./configure prefix=/home/arcemu/server --enable-lua-scripting --enable-collision --enable-debug" and see what it is really doing.
[00:19] <Evelina> Will a root cron job be run even if I haven't logged in as an user on Ubuntu Server?
[00:19] <Reid> anyone have any experience with madwifi drivers and atheros?
[00:20] <laclasse> Evelina, yes
[00:20] <Evelina> I mean when I start up Ubuntu Server I get to the login prompt. Will a scheduled corn job be run as root even if I am not logged into any account?
[00:20] <nsadmin> Evelina And so will a non-root cron job
[00:20] <laclasse> Thats what Cron does, and there is even anacron to run missed cron jobs while your computer is off.
[00:20] <mcphail> Evelina: yes
[00:20] <Ramonster> stroyan, you want me to copy the full output?
[00:20] <Evelina> Ok, so it ok to stay at the login prompt?
[00:21] <mcphail> Evelina: yes
[00:21] <Socah> laclasse, my solution: I went to package manager... showed all installed packages, and made "reinstall" for all. In fact, it hanged on bash and stopped, but after reboot, and editing again modprobe.d/alsa-sound.conf with proper options for my card, everything is back to normal
[00:21] <Evelina> Ok, I have got an answer.
[00:21] <nsadmin> depends on what you mean by "ok"
[00:21] <Socah> laclasse, pretty stupid and simple, but worked
[00:21] <laclasse> Socah, err
[00:21] <stroyan> You could pastebin the last few lines.  Or read it yourself.
[00:21] <StrangeCharm__> how can i see what services are running on what sockets on my machine?
[00:21] <laclasse> Socah, glad you have sound
[00:21] <laclasse> :)
[00:21] <Socah> laclasse, thank you for your help and time
[00:21] <hilltop> cuddlefish, OK got it.  Thanks
[00:22] <khazil> StrangeCharm__: "netstat"
[00:22] <Evelina> Thank you answering my question. Nice to hear I don't have to login.
[00:22] <StrangeCharm__> cheers khazil
[00:22] <syslq78> Evelina, yeah, you dont have to be loged in in order for coronjobs to be executed
[00:22] <nsadmin> Evelina: is it critical this cron job runs?
[00:22] <khazil> StrangeCharm__: actually, netstat -l for listeners (servers)
[00:22] <Evelina> syslq78: Yeah, hehe, I got it. ;)
[00:23] <StrangeCharm__> khazil-  i was going to say, that's giving me streams, thanks again
[00:23] <laclasse> Socah, np
[00:23] <Evelina> nsadmin: Nah, I won't say it's critical but I want it to be run so it will be bad if it won't. Not critical but well at least not good, why?
[00:24] <nsadmin> oh, so that's what you mean by "OK"
[00:25] <syslq78> Evelina, that's true for all systems really including ms windows
[00:25] <r3l1c> I can run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in one command. Is there a way to skip the sudo apt-get the second time and use "&& upgrade"? I can write a scripr but is there anything built in?
[00:26] <justfil> I can't play sound simultaneously in firefox and Decibel audio player.
[00:26] <Ramonster> stroyan, did you get my PM?
[00:26] <StrangeCharm__> khazil-  any way of saying which processes are listening to those sockets?
[00:26] <Evelina> syslq78: Ok, well I just wanted to be sure.
[00:26] <khazil> r3l1c: that's not how && works
[00:26] <stroyan> Ramonster: yes
[00:26] <nsadmin> well let's put it this way... I think you can run a periodic script in windows... the mechanism is not called cron and doesn't work like it
[00:27] <r3l1c> so what are the possibilites. When I run the first command khazil it does work
[00:27] <khazil> StrangeCharm__: usually you can tell, but let me check
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:28] <nsadmin> whether it's good or bad it works different is a subjective value judgement
[00:28] <khazil> StrangeCharm__: netstat -lp
[00:28] <syslq78>  ActionParsnip yo yo yo t
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> syslq78: your typing as drunk as i feel
[00:28] <StrangeCharm__> thansk khazil
[00:29] <Evelina> I won't hurt removing the graphics card and the display from the server? I am going to use ssh to remote control the server.
[00:29] <syslq78> ActionParsnip, nah, but I'm doing something else while typing
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> syslq78: gotcha
[00:29] <Evelina> The fan at the graphics card is not working so I'm planning to remove the card to avoid getting some overheating.
[00:29] <khazil> Evelina: there is no onboard graphics?
[00:30] <nsadmin> Evelina: give it a shot... I would imagine the system would get confused (but I don't think permanent damage would happen)
[00:30] <nsadmin> replace it with a cheap console-only card
[00:30] <khazil> are there systems which refuse to post without graphics card?
[00:31] <Evelina> khazil: I donät know actually. I don't want to use a display anyway, it's good enough using reote control. But will it give me any problem booting Ubntu without any display and graphics card, any error message etc?
[00:31] <owen1> how to find my harddrive rpm from terminal?
[00:31] <syslq78> Evelina, just replace the fan :)
[00:31] <laclasse> Evelina, it won't at all. All my boxes are headless. no need gfx card at all.
[00:31] <syslq78> owen1, hdparm
[00:31] <Ramonster> stroyan, got anything yet?
[00:31] <owen1> syslq78: thanks
[00:31] <nsadmin> Evelina: probably you want to arrange a serial console before you try that
[00:31] <Evelina> syslq78: Yeah, but I'm goint to remote control the server using ssh so I didn't bother. But if the system may be confused then I may reconsider my decision.
[00:32] <stroyan> Ramonster: The configure script may be caching bad results from earlier.  You could restart from autoreconf, or start over in a new directory.
[00:32] <Evelina> nsadmin: Serial console? What's that?
[00:32] <syslq78> Evelina, well I dont think it will be confused
[00:32] <Ramonster> stroyan, restarted about 5 times now :P
[00:32] <mazda01> anyone else use phpmyadmin in jaunty and got it working?
[00:32] <syslq78> Evelina, hmm, non ethernet network (non tcp/ip one too) just a peer-peer with data flow
[00:32] <syslq78> Evelina, it's used to configure switches sometimes etc
[00:33] <Starman> Hi guys. I've done some google searching, but I can't find any info on embedding a terminal into my top panel. Like a little persistant box I can type commands into
[00:33] <stroyan> Ramonster: It is time for me to go eat.
[00:33] <khazil> Serial console will allow you to access it if something happens which prevents you from ssh'ing in
[00:33] <nsadmin> Evelina: there used to be no video cards... computers had large banks of serial ports and that's how they talked
[00:33] <Ramonster> stroyan, bon a petit ;)
[00:33] <syslq78> Evelina, nothing should happen if you remove you grapichs card and boot system
[00:33] <Ramonster> stroyan, thanks for your time
[00:33] <syslq78> Well except you wont be eable to plug in monitor
[00:34] <nsadmin> well you can plug it in... but it won't do anything :)
[00:34] <syslq78> nsadmin, we still use serial connections at work, not very often but ... :)
[00:34] <syslq78> nsadmin, yeah :)
[00:34] <Starman> Does anyone know how I can embed one like that?
[00:34] <nsadmin> JamesHoldsworth: any relation to Allan?
[00:35] <indubitable> Hello, I just tried to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 via network. When I restarted my system after the upgrade tool finished its work, the login screen froze after about a minute. Subsequent reboots and attempts to work through the console resulted in a complete system freeze after about 1 minute. I am using a Radeon 9800 video card -- is there some kind of issue with the driver or with X that is causing these system freezes? What should I 
[00:36] <woodworker> how much extra space should you leave when you are using usb creator to make your instal persistant?
[00:36] <gogeta> woodworker: the more the better
[00:36] <Evelina> syslq78: Ok, well, I'm going to start the server two times a day, running some scripts using a cron job, then suspend until nex time the server shall boot. I'm going to let it run by itself every day whitout my interaction. Maybe I'm going to log in by ssh to do some modifications.
[00:36] <gogeta> woodworker: extra space = storage
[00:37] <woodworker> gogeta: 2.0 gb or more?
[00:37] <Evelina> syslq78: Therefore I donät need a graphics card or a display.
[00:37] <gogeta> woodworker: as i said more the better
[00:38] <gogeta> woodworker: thats going t be your extra storage
[00:39] <owen1> syslq78:is it somewhere here? hdparm -I /dev/sda
[00:39] <perruchito> hello
[00:39] <Freelancer> hey, is there a solution to use the Iphone on Ubuntu ?
[00:39] <gogeta> Freelancer: wine + itunes?
[00:39] <Starman> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
[00:40] <syslq78> owen1, dunno, read man hdparm, I dont use it really, I did few times but I forgot
[00:40] <owen1> syslq78: sure
[00:40] <Freelancer> gogeta, wine doesn't support usb devices for itunes, does it..
[00:40] <Freelancer> gogeta > it's said on ubuntu forums :S
[00:40] <mezquitale> anyone that's ever edited videos can tell me which one you prefer and why, kino or cinelerra??
[00:40] <Ramonster> I get this error when I try ./configure... checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries, what ssl libs do I need... got OpenSSL..? :)
[00:40] <indubitable> Does anyone know of problems with the Radeon 9800 series under 9.04?
[00:41] <jrib> Ramonster: what are you compiling?
[00:41] <Okay> I installed turboprint using ./setup,but how do i uninstall it? it's not in synaptic manager or add/remove
[00:41] <gogeta> Freelancer: it says it does
[00:41] <perruchito> spanish
[00:41] <Ramonster> jrib, arcemu; wow private server
[00:41] <lolcash> My mouse jumps all over the screen. Just started today after upgrading to 9.04. Some how It did this while on firefox and now firefox is almost 100% transparent. Anybody know how to fix this?
[00:41] <jrib> Okay: you need to contact turboprint about that or check its documentation
[00:41] <gogeta> Freelancer: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/03/04/itunes-syncing-now-works-in-linux-with-wine/
[00:41] <jrib> !compile > Ramonster
[00:42] <mazda01> anyone else use phpmyadmin in jaunty and got it working?
[00:42] <jrib> Ramonster: headers for compiling are in packages that end in -dev
[00:42] <mazda01> i installed phpmyadmin in jaunty and created the symlink to /var/www/ but when I use firefox and type in localhost/phpmyadmin it asks about either opening or saving a phtml file. here's the screenshot. http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2nrk.png
[00:42] <gogeta> Freelancer: thata was 2 hyears ago
[00:42] <gogeta> years
[00:43] <indubitable> Is there some kind of safe default video driver that I can configure Xorg to use in lieu of whatever it automatically loads for Radeon video cards?
[00:43] <gogeta> Freelancer: your right its does not sync with 8.2
[00:43] <Freelancer> gogeta > I tried with playonlinux and it really doesnt work ?!
[00:43] <gpprine> ANyone out there with IBM server and SAS tape drive exp. 10/4
[00:43] <jmigel> indubitable: VESA driver
[00:43] <woodworker> When I do a live install usb creator  - when I boot from the usb drive will all my setting be lost in the next rebot....... I added 4.5 gb of extra space.  Is there anything u must to do make it persistant
[00:44] <Freelancer> gogeta hmmm so I should search a previous version of Itunes
[00:44] <perruchito> spanish
[00:44] <indubitable> jmigel: How can I configure Xorg so it uses that?
[00:44] <syslq78> Evelina, are you studying informatics or something? We dont see a lot of girls / women setting up *nix servers ? <-- if that's no secret
[00:44] <rww> !es | perruchito
[00:44] <perruchito> ok sorry
[00:44] <Flannel> syslq78: Er, excuse me?
[00:44] <Blizzerand> How do I import the Open office key via termial in ubuntu
[00:45] <gogeta> Freelancer: http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33754
[00:45] <jmigel> indubitable what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:45] <indubitable> jmigel: I just upgraded to 9.04
[00:45] <syslq78> Flannel, you're excused
[00:46] <jmigel> indubitable sorry pal the screwed it all around now, i dont know how to change those settings in 9.04
[00:46] <Evelina> syslq78: Yeah, I'm studying computers at university in Sweden. It's my 1st year.
[00:46] <Flannel> syslq78: How is your previous question relevant whatsoever?
[00:46] <indubitable> jmigel: I agree, it's pretty screwed up.
[00:46] <gogeta> Freelancer: jailbroken can by synced wireless all i found
[00:46] <syslq78> Flannel, related to what?
[00:47] <syslq78> Evelina, cool
[00:47] <jmigel> indubitable used to be you just edit the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 but for me anyway now its blank and its all done somewhere else
[00:47] <justfil> Did someone noticed in firefox awesomebar there is bright blue links? O_O i liked the darkgreen better ;/
[00:47] <Radtoo> syslq78: Theres' quite many women but this is #ubuntu-offtopic stuff...?
[00:47] <jmigel> indubitable im pretty sure you can google your way to a howto
[00:48] <indubitable> jmigel: That was my first thought, but when I loaded it up in vi, it was like 10 lines of vague information.
[00:48] <Blizzerand> How do I import the Open office key via termial in ubuntu
[00:48] <Blizzerand> Please help???
[00:48] <Freelancer> gogeta > arf...
[00:48] <syslq78> Radtoo, tech skills I have, I need social skills
[00:48] <Radtoo> Blizzerand: open office... key?
[00:48] <Blizzerand> Radtoo : Yeah PPA key
[00:49] <jmigel> indubitable ya if i wanted to have no idea what was going on and couldnt change anything id just run windows...
[00:49] <syslq78> Blizzerand, sudo apt-key add ?
[00:49] <Blizzerand> k
[00:49] <syslq78> Blizzerand, you can just use gui too
[00:50] <syslq78> Since you're installing open office I guess you have x
[00:50] <Radtoo> Blizzerand: ahuh, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA <- theres multiple ways
[00:50] <DVA5912> How can i go about manualy turning on status lights on my laptop? such as the wife, bluetooth etc
[00:50] <woodworker> Is there anything you need to do after using usb creator to make 9.04 persistant???  I left 4.5 gb of extra space.
[00:50] <Blizzerand> syslq78 : Sorry already tried gui . I cannot find any files in my home directory
[00:51] <Lloyd_Pugh> hi there. i have recently put UNR on my net book (acer aspire one) it was great, but today when i turned it on. it asks me to put in my user and password(as normal) and then nothing else loads :( no taskbar, it will let me move my mouse around. can anyone help me please?
[00:51] <Mike_lifeguard> Whenever I unplug my laptop, it suspends. How can I change that behaviour?
[00:51] <gogeta> Freelancer: err virtualbox 3 and a xp vmware install lol
[00:51] <moymoy> woodworker: nope, there's nothing else you need to do.. but keep in mind that the usb boot up disk will no longer work when you change system settings like user accounts
[00:51] <host47> hi, someone using Mutt +  GPG? I'm having a little trouble
[00:52] <moymoy> Mike_lifeguard: have you looked in the gnome-powermanager app?
[00:52] <Mike_lifeguard> moymoy: Yes, I didn't see a setting for this.
[00:52] <DVA5912> is there a file that controls the leds? like there are files frot the cpu and stuff?
[00:52] <woodworker> moymoy:  can you put that one in idiot terms..... that is kinda what I am at this point
[00:52] <moymoy> Mike_lifeguard: i don't know then.. i don't normally use a laptop
[00:52] <owen1> i replaced my old nvidia with geforce 6200 AGP. do i need to change my bios to AGP?
[00:52] <Evelina> syslq78: Yeah, it's fun to play with Linux.
[00:53] <Mike_lifeguard> moymoy: Yeah, I double-checked, there is no such setting there.
[00:53] <gogeta> owen1: yes some bios do need to be switched
[00:53] <Evelina> syslq78: To learn more about servers and networks.
[00:53] <hipitihop> anyone here using virtualbox regularly ? I'm running 2.2.4 and want to upgrade to latest 3.0.2
[00:53] <edbian> DVA5912: Simply put.  "Probably".  I don't know what they would be called or how to find them out or anything else about it.  But udev's job is to make a file for every device and place them all in /dev
[00:53] <moymoy> Mike_lifeguard: you're making a usb bootup disk right?
[00:53] <edbian> DVA5912: If an appropriate driver cannot be found however a file will not be made.
[00:53] <gogeta> hipitihop: so upgarde lol
[00:53] <hilltop> in crunchbang, what keyboard is used. I can't make pipe character
[00:54] <Flannel> !derivatives
[00:54] <Mike_lifeguard> moymoy: uh, no. When I unplug my laptop it suspends.
[00:54] <woodworker> evelina:  fyi it worked
[00:54] <Flannel> hilltop: ^
[00:54] <owen1> gogeta: interesting. it's working now even though my bios is set to pci. is it possible?
[00:54] <DVA5912> edbian: thats more information than i had. The light did come on a couple of minutes ago but then i went into hibernation and it didnt come back on.
[00:54] <syslq78> Evelina, yeah, it rocks, it follows good *nix design philosophy and it does not cover up details so in any case you benefit with general computing knowledge far superior than fanboys usually have
[00:54] <Oceanic> hipitihop, you can download the newest virtualbox from www.virtualbox.org
[00:54] <moymoy> Mike_lifeguard: oops lol highlighted to the wrong person, sorry
[00:54] <owen1> gogeta: or i didn't read the bios correctly.
[00:54] <gogeta> owen1: yes soem bios auto switch
[00:54] <edbian> DVA5912: Good luck!
[00:54] <Mike_lifeguard> moymoy: np
[00:54] <owen1> gogeta: thanks
[00:55] <syslq78> Evelina, not to mention that there are quite some very highly payed it job's for it in sysadmin / engineering area
[00:55] <hilltop> Flannel, not working for me.
[00:55] <moymoy> Mike_lifeguard: and i'm sorry i can't help you.. but does gnome always complain about your battery being low?
[00:55] <gogeta> syslq78: whers my high pay sysadmin job
[00:55] <Mike_lifeguard> moymoy: nope
[00:56] <Flannel> hilltop: Er, what?  Ask in #crunchbang /join #crunchbang
[00:56] <DVA5912> ok so its on now. for some reason. I pressed the fn key and wifi button two times and it came on. what does that mean? can i fix it now that it does come on?
[00:56] <Mike_lifeguard> moymoy: I've found #ubuntu-laptop ... it's rather desolate, but maybe I'll find someone there who can help. Thanks anyways
[00:56] <moymoy> Mike_lifeguard: alright, good luck!
[00:56] <syslq78> gogeta, dunno, you should know that
[00:56] <Lloyd_Pugh> hiya i have recently put UNR on my net book (acer aspire one) it was great, but today when i turned it on nothing loads :( no taskbar, it will let me move my mouse around but thats it. can anyone help me please?
[00:56] <hilltop> Flannel, thanks
[00:56] <hipitihop> Oceanic: thanks and it also appears in the repos, so appears in synaptic just not sure if I need to remove 2.2 first and if I should expect any problems
[00:56] <syslq78> gogeta, my pay is not gold mine but far from being bad
[00:57] <khazil> moymoy: does the laptop not charge?
[00:57] <edbian> Lloyd_Pugh: Can you open a terminal with alt + F2 ?
[00:57] <khazil> moymoy: or is it simply incorrect measurement?
[00:57] <Lloyd_Pugh> will try now :)
[00:57] <syslq78> gogeta, it depends on how good you are, this area also got populated with server market share gain
[00:57] <Oceanic> hipitihop, you'll need to remove your current one first, there should be no problems, i don't think you even need a restart, keep us posted :D
[00:58] <Lloyd_Pugh> edbian no i cant, i can bring up a small menu when i right click
[00:58] <edbian> What does menu say?
[00:58] <moymoy> khazil: everything seems to be working fine.. the laptop just suspends it self when you unplug it...... actually this isn't even my problem.. it's Mike_lifeguard, and he's still in this channel.. but you can look for him in #ubuntu-laptop
[00:58] <yowshi1> why are there components of ubuntu eating up ram but not letting any of it go?
[00:58] <hipitihop> Oceanic: will do thanks.
[00:58] <Lloyd_Pugh> with stuff like "creat document, launcer, folder" change desktop backround(nothing usefull in there though
[00:58] <moymoy> yowshi1: what components? memory leaks need to be reported..
[00:59] <jmigel> anyone know the channel for psubuntu?
[00:59] <moymoy> yowshi1: type `top` into terminal and press SHIFT+M
[00:59] <yowshi1> moymoy: at-spi-registryd xorg and nautilus all seem to be taking up more memory now then my last reboot
[01:00] <StrangeCharm__> yowshi1-  are they doing more stuff?
[01:01] <edbian> Lloyd_Pugh: Have you tried simply restarting?  It might be a fluke
[01:01] <moymoy> yowshi1: that's the gnome-accessibility service daemon, do you need it running?
[01:01] <yowshi1> StrangeCharm__: i dont know what at-spi-registryd does xorg aint doing much more now then when i rebooted, i think anyway and i only have one more folder open now then when i rebooted so i dont know about nautilus either
[01:01] <Lloyd_Pugh> I have restarted about 4 times now
[01:01] <yowshi1> moymoy: no i dont think i do
[01:01] <CorpX> my vnc is broken
[01:01] <CorpX> i can move the mouse around, but it doesnt update
[01:01] <StrangeCharm__> yowshi1-  how much more memory are they using?
[01:02] <Evelina> syslq78: Well, I have a lot to learn before I get a job as an sys admin. :)
[01:02] <dephiance> where's the place to go after I install 9.10 and want to find bug info?
[01:02] <stillinbeta> Can I mount /home/user on its own partition?
[01:02] <yowshi1> StrangeCharm__: alot more they were using very little on reboot now exorg is using almost 150megs and at-spi is using almost 300 megs
[01:02] <Joe_> If I leave evolution running for a while, it won't check email (gets stuck, just says Waiting...) unless I close it and reopen... anyway to fix that?
[01:03] <Evelina> syslq78: Well, it's 02:00 in my country. I have to go to bed now. Good night and thanks for all help!
[01:03] <Joe_> normally have to force it closed too
[01:03] <moymoy> yowshi1: then you can go ahead and disable it if you want..and kill it.  It's really not needed, and how much RAM is Xorg using?
[01:03] <KrOlin> people i got a problem wit my repos... dont let me do nothin wit my pacs
[01:03] <KrOlin> packs*
[01:03] <Evelina> bye bye
[01:03] <KB1JWQ> KrOlin: Errors to a pastebin?
[01:04] <KrOlin> no
[01:04] <yowshi1> moymoy: 143 megs
[01:04] <Ddorda> when i try to enter my ubuntu server VM not by the VM i'm requested to enter username and password. how do i know these?
[01:04] <edbian> What is the new method to quickly log out?  (used to be ctrl + alt + backspace)
[01:05] <StrangeCharm__> yowshi1-  well, that is a fair bit
[01:05] <yowshi1> StrangeCharm__:  moymoy my system slowly eats up memory i usually wind up having to reboot nafter a couple days because i wont have the ram or swap left to do anything
[01:05] <moymoy> yowshi1: wow.. that isn't normal.. are you running any graphic intensive things? i remember gnome-do screwed around with Xorg a lot
[01:05] <arand> edbian: can use alt+sysrq+k
[01:06] <arand> !dontzap | edbian
[01:06] <eddyeoq> in what format does a portable hard drive have to be to be able to use it in usb startup disc creator
[01:06] <edbian> Thanks guys!
[01:06] <StrangeCharm__> yowshi1-  option 1) keep rebooting, but report the problem. option 2) buy a medium-sided fast disk, and use that as swap
[01:06] <yowshi1> moymoy: no i am not running gnome-do
[01:06] <KB1JWQ> KrOlin: Don't PM me with ubuntu questions, please.
[01:07] <Ddorda> when i try to enter my ubuntu server VM not by the VM i'm requested to enter username and password. how do i know these?
[01:07] <yowshi1> StrangeCharm__: i would honestly prefer to not use a flash disk as a swap drive they have a max write limit you know
[01:07] <KB1JWQ> Ddorda: You should have set them at install time?
[01:07] <woodworker> ne one here know anything about hosting moodle through 9.04? - I am an amature in need of help for a school project.....
[01:07] <KB1JWQ> Ddorda: You're not running a LiveCD as the VM are you
[01:07] <Ddorda> KB1JWQ: no
[01:08] <StrangeCharm__> yowshi1-  i don't think you should use a flash disk, a fast magnetic disk was my suggestion
[01:08] <KB1JWQ> Ddorda: Then user add $usernake; passwd $username sets that up.
[01:08] <Ddorda> KB1JWQ: i tried my username and password, and it didn;t work
[01:08] <KB1JWQ> er, useradd rather.
[01:08] <yowshi1> StrangeCharm__: ah i dont have one of those handy heh
[01:08] <Ddorda> KB1JWQ: thank. i will try it out
[01:08] <moymoy> KB1JWQ: isn't it adduser?
[01:09] <KB1JWQ> moymoy: Depends upon distro. :)
[01:09] <dephiance> is anyone running 9.10 and vmplayer?  Mouse and keyboard are not cooperating with my install
[01:09] <StrangeCharm__> yowshi1-  that's inconvenient
[01:09] <Ddorda> KB1JWQ: can you give me ex. for the commands?
[01:09] <moymoy> KB1JWQ: gotcha ;)
[01:09] <KB1JWQ> Ddorda: I just did.
[01:09] <StrangeCharm__> what command will give me a list of all users
[01:09] <KB1JWQ> StrangeCharm__: cat /etc/passwd
[01:09] <revlo> StrangeCharm__: getent passewd
[01:09] <moymoy> yowshi1: for now, you can always setup a cronjob to automatically kill and reload the apps that eat up your RAM
[01:10] <revlo> StrangeCharm__: getent passwd
[01:10] <moymoy> yowshi1: it may get annoying at times when things unexpectedly close, but it's faster than a reboot
[01:10] <KB1JWQ> revlo: You're right; that works better in LDAP environments too. :)
[01:10] <yowshi1> moymoy: how do i setup a cron job?
[01:10] <KB1JWQ> moymoy: That's... a horrible idea. :)
[01:10] <fwaokda> Is there any way to add folders to my "Places" section of my menu in ubuntu?
[01:10] <yowshi1> moymoy: and ione of the programmes is xorg that wouldrequie a reboot
[01:11] <Travisivart> hi, I was wondering if pulseaudio will do USB audio out, to a reciever. I'm looking at a reciever in which this is the main selling point, but don't exactly know if it is fully possible. Looked around on Google, and found very little evidence pointing to either no, or yes. If anyone knows, it would be extremely helpful, Thanks.
[01:11] <moymoy> yowshi1: if you do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, it'll restart xorg i believe
[01:11] <revlo> KB1JWQ: its unix - there is alway more then 1 possibility todo one thing :-)
[01:12] <KB1JWQ> revlo: Hey, now-- Linux isn't  Unix. :)
[01:12] <moymoy> KB1JWQ: you're right... xD but i use it on the evolution-data-server .. it eats up RAM like no other.. and it pops up everytime i click on the calener applet! waah!
[01:12] <woodworker> Hi,  setting up moodle and in moodle docs it says to "Edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Remove the # mark on lines 22 and 38 to enable access to the universe package source and universe security updates. You will need to re-enter your account password when sudo asks for it. "
[01:12] <woodworker> is this needed
[01:12] <Doc-Saintly> How do i list all drives attached to the computer in bash? LSHW is crashing at SCSI
[01:13] <KB1JWQ> woodworker: They'd know, wouldn't they?
[01:13] <revlo> KB1JWQ: actually gnu is not unix but is linux gnu?
[01:13] <KB1JWQ> woodworker: Try it and see...
[01:13] <linxeh> revlo: obviously...
[01:13] <KB1JWQ> revlo: No, Linux and GNU are two distinct things.  Granted, without GNU you've got "a kernel and nothing else" but... :)
[01:13] <anom01y> is there any way to test my cups configuration than the "print test page". I have a remote printer that is installed to Windows XP, and I am trying to configure cups (localhost:631) to print to it.
[01:13] <moymoy> Doc-Saintly: try `sudo blkid`
[01:13] <linxeh> Linux is a GNU product
[01:13] <Spirits-Sight> any one able help get my cell phone to work with activesync through vbox on my ubuntu system
[01:13] <revlo> KB1JWQ: heh you have Hurd :-)
[01:13] <anom01y> it shows it is added in the printers sections, and that it is "idle, accepting jobs"
[01:13] <woodworker> kb1jwq..... just an amature really with no clue what I am doing here..... just checking if this is going to cause me huge problems...... the tutorial is for 8.04lts server...... I am using 9.04 desktop
[01:14] <jrib> !repos > woodworker
[01:14] <anom01y> but the test page does not work, and there are no errors
[01:14] <jrib> woodworker: you can pastebin your current /etc/apt/sources.list and I will tell you if you need to do anything if you wish
[01:14] <jrib> !pastebin > woodworker
[01:14] <jrib> fwaokda: you can add a bookmark in nautilus.  The location should then be added to your Places menu
[01:15] <Doc-Saintly> Well it would appear that something is making my system not work. any of the things i try to list the hardware just crash
[01:15] <fwaokda> jrib, how do i add a bookmark in nautilus? (sry still getting the hang of ubuntu :[ )
[01:15] <jrib> fwaokda: check the menus at the top.  If it isn't obvious, let me know and I'll open up nautilus
[01:16] <arand> fwaokda: right-click on folder? I think.
[01:16] <fwaokda> jrib, oh nautilus is the file browser thing gotcha thanks
[01:16] <jrib> fwaokda: yep :)
[01:17] <moymoy> Doc-Saintly: even just `mount` doesn't work?
[01:17] <arand> fwaokda: disregard that, instead, drag a folder to the bookmarks section in nautilus
[01:17] <jrib> Doc-Saintly: or « sudo fdisk -l » depending on what you mean
[01:17] <woodworker> jrib:  fyi  I am not currently on a linux system I am flipping between two computers.....
[01:18] <fwaokda> arand, oh thanks that works even better
[01:18] <fwaokda> arand, well faster
[01:18] <jrib> woodworker: ok.  If you read the documentation ubottu gave you though, you'll understand what the point of that step was.  Then it should make more sense to you
[01:18] <Doc-Saintly> moymoy: i haven't tried mount, i don't know which device it is, i'm trying to get a listing, the type lshw shows is nice but i'd like it a ilttle more cut down and only hd's
[01:19] <arand> fwaokda: jrib: just to clarify, when I said "disregard that" I was referring to my previous comment, not yours jrib :)
[01:19] <moymoy> Doc-Saintly: you want all the hardware or just the harddrives and such?
[01:20] <Doc-Saintly> moymoy: just the harddrives
[01:20] <Susanna777> hello
[01:20] <dephiance> my windows key stopped working after upgrading to 9.10
[01:20] <Doc-Saintly> basically, storage devices ;)
[01:20] <Susanna777> i need some help
[01:20] <yigal> I'm trying to build wget on SunOS as a non-privelaged user anyone know if I should be able to do this?
[01:20]  * jrib eases trigger off ban button, I know arand :)
[01:21] <moymoy> Doc-Saintly: try `sudo fdisk -l` and if that doesn't work, try `sudo blkid` again.. if not, then try `mount` .. that's all i can think of right now
[01:21] <Susanna777> i have ubuntu 9.04 but i installed the netbook remix manager to try it out, decided i didn't like and uninstalled it
[01:21] <Doc-Saintly> well it seems the bigger problem is that something chokes my system up every time it goes looking at hardware
[01:21] <Susanna777> i thought i uninstalled everything
[01:21] <Susanna777> but my windows are still appearing full screen
[01:22] <Susanna777> i don't know how to change it back
[01:22] <Spirits-Sight> anyone have idea of how I can get activesync to work and pick up my cell phone,  I am using linux (ubuntu) with windows xp in the vbox?
[01:22] <Doc-Saintly> ergh. brb
[01:23] <Okay> how do i go to /usr/bin?
[01:23] <jrib> Okay: why?
[01:23] <Radtoo> Spirits-Sight: synce is your best bet but I think bluetooth usually works better.
[01:23] <Okay> because i installed a program that wrote files to that directory
[01:23] <prince_jammys> Okay: you mean change your current directory to /usr/bin in a terminal?
[01:24] <jrib> Okay: ok, that's bad practice.  You know how to prevent that in the future?
[01:24] <Okay> prince_jammys, no, navigating to it
[01:24] <Okay> jrib, how can i prevent it in the future?
[01:24] <prince_jammys> most packages that install an executable will put it in /usr/bin
[01:24] <jrib> Okay: well you try to install programs only from the repositories
[01:24] <Spirits-Sight> Radtoo: I sadly need use activesync as I am making a changeo t hte cell phone HardSPL and don't want to have any issues as if I do it will / could mess the phone
[01:25] <Okay> jrib, well, that program wasn't in repositories
[01:25] <ILMAN5> hello
[01:25] <jrib> Okay: If you *must* install something outside the repositories, install it to /usr/local/
[01:25] <moymoy> Susanna777: is it your screen resolution?
[01:25] <Radtoo> Spirits-Sight: well, try synce. I cannot guarantee in any way this works though as the vendor of the original activesync doesn't care about allowing you to use linux, so its a reverse engineered piece of software.
[01:26] <Susanna777> no
[01:26] <Susanna777> the window border is gone
[01:26] <Okay> jrib, Installation for LPR/LPRng spooler (TP_CUPS=0)
[01:26] <Okay> Configuration files will go to.. /etc/turboprint
[01:26] <Okay> Shared files will go to......... /usr/share/turboprint
[01:26] <Okay> Executable files will go to..... /usr/bin
[01:26] <Okay> Logfiles files will go to....... /var/log
[01:26] <FloodBot3> Okay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <Okay> Documentation will go to........ /usr/share/turboprint/doc
[01:26] <Susanna777> i can't get it back
[01:26] <ILMAN5> i want to install  Borland Turbo C/C++ Lite
[01:26] <Guest11212> nnooo
[01:26] <Spirits-Sight> its called synce?  where could I find this please PM link thanks
[01:26] <JamesHoldsworth> Hi everyone, I have a general computing question, and don't know if there's a better suited area for this, but here it goes. What on earth is the point of setting up a server?
[01:26] <prince_jammys> Okay: and now you're trying to delete those files? What are you trying to do?
[01:27] <jrib> Okay: Did you check turboprint documentation for uninstallation instructions yet?
[01:27] <moymoy> Susanna777: try pressing F11 (at least that's the fullscreen toggle on my desktop)
[01:27] <ILMAN5> i want to install  Borland Turbo C/C++ Lite
[01:27] <funcky1> !force i386
[01:27] <queso> I would like to format my usb thumb drive. What filesystem is most appropriate for this?  I'd like the drive to be accessible in OS X and Windows.
[01:27] <Okay> prince_jammys, yeah, I'm trying to delete all those now
[01:27] <Radtoo> Spirits-Sight: http://www.synce.org/moin/
[01:27] <jrib> ILMAN5: why?
[01:27] <JamesHoldsworth> queso, try FAT.
[01:27] <ILMAN5> i need this compiler
[01:27] <Radtoo> ILMAN5: can lazarus do the job?
[01:27] <funcky1> how do you force i386 architecture
[01:27] <jrib> ILMAN5: you cannot use gcc?
[01:27] <Okay> jrib, yes, they say to cd to folder and ./uninstall but that doesn't do anything for me
[01:27] <ILMAN5> lazarus?
[01:27] <queso> JamesHoldsworth: Just plain FAT? Not VFAT or FAT32? :)
[01:27] <Susanna777> moymoy,  that goes completely full screen, no panel
[01:27] <ILMAN5> I Need! this compiler!
[01:27] <jrib> Okay: pastebin
[01:28] <StrangeCharm__> JamesHoldsworth-  if you don't know, then you don't need to. if you ever find the need, then you'll set up a server to do that specific thing, however, you may find http://lifehacker.com/tag/home-server/ interesting
[01:28] <JamesHoldsworth> I'd use just Fat. most USB's use fat
[01:28] <ILMAN5> i have just bought a whole book about it
[01:28] <jrib> ILMAN5: do you know what gcc is?
[01:28] <ILMAN5> its another compiler..
[01:28] <Radtoo> ILMAN5: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/
[01:28] <queso> JamesHoldsworth: Great, thanks for the help! ;)
[01:28] <JamesHoldsworth> Lol, I know I don't need to, I was just wondering what was the point. And Queso, no problem.
[01:28] <Okay> jrib, yeah, I'll remember to use it next time
[01:28] <ILMAN5> Radtoo ?
[01:28] <jrib> ILMAN5: *the* compiler for free software.  Personally, I don't see a reason not to use it if you are learning C or C++ (which it sounds like what you are doing)
[01:29] <queso> JamesHoldsworth: Reason I ask is because a co-worker recommended ufs and now I can't access the drive, lol
[01:29] <moymoy> Susanna777: is the ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings uninstalled? you can also try a dpkg-reconfigure on it
[01:29] <ILMAN5> yes
[01:29] <funcky1> how do you force i386 architecture?
[01:29] <jrib> Okay: no, I mean pastebin what you are doing and the output
[01:29] <ILMAN5> i have just bought a whole book about it!!
[01:29] <StrangeCharm__> JamesHoldsworth-  if you don't use my name when talking to me, i probably won't see your message
[01:29] <KB1JWQ> ILMAN5: Specfic to that compiler?  Doubhtful.
[01:29] <funcky1> i would google but i dont know what to google
[01:29] <Susanna777> moymoy,  yes the default settings are uninstallled
[01:29] <ILMAN5> yes
[01:29] <KB1JWQ> ILMAN5: C is C, C++ is C++. :)
[01:29] <StrangeCharm__> JamesHoldsworth-  you may also find http://lifehacker.com/303421/top-10-ways-to-put-your-remote-server-to-good-use particularly enleightening
[01:29] <arand> funcky1: when, where? (dpkg --force architecture -i package.deb)
[01:29] <ILMAN5> i know
[01:30] <ILMAN5> i have an XP PC
[01:30] <jrib> ILMAN5: this is *ubuntu* support
[01:30] <arand> funcky1: correction: dpkg --force-architecture -i package.deb
[01:30] <ILMAN5> but its my sister, i cant use it
[01:30] <ILMAN5> i can*
[01:30] <Okay> jrib, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218426/
[01:30] <ILMAN5> but i want to run it on ubuntu
[01:30] <jrib> !enter | ILMAN5
[01:30] <moymoy> Susanna777: try installing the desktop-switcher and see what happens, from the description, it seems like it allows you to switch from netbook to desktop view
[01:30] <Radtoo> KB1JWQ: Well the codegear compiler is a bit different than gcc... I worked for 'em after all. :)
[01:30] <funcky1> what do you mean "when where?"
[01:30] <ILMAN5> all right!
[01:30] <dephiance> how do I map the windows keys to open the main menu if gnome keyboard shortcuts isn't recognizing the windows key?
[01:30] <leverage> Can someone help me install a game?
[01:30] <jrib> Okay: what did you run to get that?
[01:30] <KB1JWQ> Radtoo: Sure, but at a "learning to code" level? :)
[01:31] <KB1JWQ> ILMAN5: I'd run it inside of a virtualized XP instance and call it good.
[01:31] <Radtoo> KB1JWQ: nope, not that. Its standard c indeed. all that would change is a handful of flags for linking or such.
[01:31] <queso> is FAT16 the same as FAT?
[01:31] <Okay> jrib, I've already uninstalled and that's the only way I can figure out how to delete those files
[01:31] <Radtoo> queso: its a specific variant of FAT
[01:31] <ILMAN5> can u help me with this on private?
[01:31] <jrib> Okay: it claims it's already uninstalled but left files there?  Are you sure those files don't belong to something else?
[01:31] <jrib> !pm | ILMAN5
[01:31] <Okay> jrib, I used sudo su first, cuz it needs root. then I navigated to the folder and used ./setup
[01:31] <Radtoo> queso: there's also fat32 and such.
[01:31] <panfistmx__> is there a command line alternative to gopchop ? gopchop crashes for me every time i load a file
[01:31] <KB1JWQ> ILMAN5: Not for free. I have a dayjob.
[01:32] <queso> Radtoo: Hmm, okay.  Which should I use for a USB thumb drive?
[01:32] <jrib> Okay: right.  How about the uninstall procedure?
[01:32] <Okay> jrib, i'm 100% sure
[01:32] <Susanna777> moymoy,  i've reinstalled the desktop switcher what do i do now?
[01:32] <ILMAN5> only 3 minuts
[01:32] <arand> queso: there's FAT16 and FAT32, afaik
[01:32] <Radtoo> queso: if its not used with very old devices, just use fat32.
[01:32] <Okay> jrib, kay: it claims it's already uninstalled but left files there?  Are you sure those files don't belong to something else?
[01:33] <Okay> jrib, woops. Configuration file etc/turboprint/system.cfg not found!
[01:33] <bastidrazor> Okay,  probably sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:33] <Radtoo> arand: there's even fat 12 bit but thats sorta something no one would ever use anymore :)
[01:33] <Doc-Saintly> Is there another command to halt the current command? Ctrl+c doesn't seem to do it
[01:33] <Okay> jrib, that's what it says
[01:33] <jrib> Okay: pastebin (commands and output)
[01:33] <StrangeCharm__> squid seems to be dying after a couple of seconds. any ideas why?
[01:33] <KB1JWQ> Radtoo: Sounds like a fun weekend project. :-p
[01:33] <jrib> Doc-Saintly: ctrl-\ sends sigquit (iirc)
[01:33] <KB1JWQ> StrangeCharm__: Have you checked the logs?
[01:34] <Okay> jrib, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218428/
[01:34] <jrib> Okay: cd /, then try again
[01:34] <Okay> bastidrazor, won't that remove some .debs that I need?
[01:34] <StrangeCharm__> KB1JWQ-  i'm looking now, but there's a lot of them
[01:34] <leverage> trying to get this to work on the latest ubuntu. cant figure it out http://necrofamicon.com/Tendrils/
[01:34] <jrib> Okay: for future reference, use « sudo -i » instead of « sudo su »
[01:34] <KB1JWQ> StrangeCharm__: Try using tail; it'll show you the last ten lines by default.
[01:35] <Okay> jrib, why is that?
[01:35] <Doc-Saintly> if a drive is not mounted is it safe to unplug it? Or is there an extra step?
[01:35] <Okay> jrib, yeah, gives me the same message as that last pastebin
[01:35] <queso> Radtoo: Great, thanks :)
[01:35] <jrib> Okay: safer environment for one
[01:35] <moymoy> Susanna777: sorry, i was digging through gconf to see if there was a setting to help fix your problem.. check your application menus and such for the desktop-switcher..
[01:36] <jrib> Okay: pastebin please... anytime you run something, pastebin
[01:36] <Susanna777> moymoy,  i found it but it still not working right
[01:36] <Radtoo> queso: np. by the way, if you only want to use it with linux the linux native filesystems are even better choices... but only if you only want to use it with linux :)
[01:36] <Susanna777> i can't access applications anymore
[01:36] <Okay> jrib, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218428/
[01:36] <KB1JWQ> Radtoo: Not sure I'd agree; I'm not a fan of ext$ on USB drives.
[01:36] <queso> Radtoo: Thanks for the tip -- but I'm using it to transfer files from my old OS X laptop
[01:36] <Okay> jrib, it just gives me the same thing
[01:37] <jrib> Okay: you didn't cd /...
[01:37] <KB1JWQ> We need a better universal filesystem than FAT. :-/
[01:37] <Okay> cd / = cd home?
[01:37] <StrangeCharm__> KB1JWQ-  well, looks like i found the problem- FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!
[01:37] <jrib> Okay: anyway, check whether /etc/turboprint/system.cfg exists first
[01:37] <KB1JWQ> And no, UFS is NOT the solution.
[01:37] <KB1JWQ> StrangeCharm__: That'd be the problem.
[01:37] <StrangeCharm__> Okay-  no, it does not
[01:37] <Okay> jrib, how do i check?
[01:37] <arand> Okay: nope / is the absolute root of filessytem
[01:37] <Radtoo> KB1JWQ: its not like fat is better than these two either though >P
[01:37] <jrib> Okay: ls /etc/turboprint/system.cfg
[01:37] <Susanna777> moymoy, there's not menu anymore or anyway to log out or anything, i'm going to do a reset
[01:38] <StrangeCharm__> KB1JWQ-  now i just need to find a solution...
[01:38] <mazda01> anyone know why jaunty phpmyadmin doesn't work?
[01:38] <KB1JWQ> Radtoo: The use case that worries me is "someone is running late and snatches the drive out without unmounting it first."  FAT tends to live through that fairly well, anything with an EXT journal on it kinda doesn't.
[01:38] <mazda01> i installed phpmyadmin in jaunty and created the symlink to /var/www/ but when I use firefox and type in localhost/phpmyadmin it asks about either opening or saving a phtml file. here's the screenshot. http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2nrk.png
[01:38] <arand> Okay: /home/username or just ~ would be your home (also just cd will get you home as well)
[01:38] <FloodBot3> mazda01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <jrib> !lamp > mazda01
[01:38] <Okay> jrib, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218432/
[01:38] <jrib> mazda01: read and follow the troubleshooting steps for that issue with php on that wiki page
[01:39] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: Yeah, you didn't set a php handler in your apache configuration from the sound of it.
[01:39] <ll> I have seen many, many crashed fat32 usb sticks from people yanking them out
[01:39] <Radtoo> KB1JWQ: it only does with the file system check, otherwise its about as endangered as ext or udf. and ye I tried it a lot. :P
[01:39] <ll> so if by "fairly well" you mean "sometimes dies" then okay
[01:39] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, shouldn't that be done by default when I install apache?
[01:39] <jrib> Okay: erm okay.  Well you do just have to delete stuff manually I guess.  Or why not contact turboprint for support...?  rm is the delete command in the terminal
[01:40] <mazda01> FloodBot1, please help me understand what I did wrong. I didn't think I was flooding anything. I merely posted a question.
[01:40] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: Not necessarily.
[01:40] <jrib> mazda01: one question = one line please
[01:40] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: Note the "bot" part of FloodBot's nickname.
[01:40] <Okay> jrib, all turboprint tells you is to use ./uninstall once you get into that folder
[01:40] <musicgeek1> Hello, is there a easy way to speedup software downloads (ie adding new/ faster repositories)?
[01:40] <Okay> jrib, someone said that manually deleting the folder will delete that program
[01:40] <jrib> mazda01: weird that he triggered on 2 lines though.  bug
[01:40] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, that seems sort of weird. how would the average user know that they have to do all this configuring of apache just to get it to work? I will check out the wiki. thank you
[01:40] <jrib> Okay: what folder...?
[01:41] <ll> musicgeek1: I found that different times of the day you can replace the country codes for faster download
[01:41] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: The second part of your line answered the first part.
[01:41] <KB1JWQ> RTFM. :-)
[01:41] <ll> musicgeek1: for instance, middle of the day in us, ch (switzerland) is faster than us. Opposite at night.
[01:41] <stillinbeta> I'm working on mounting /home/user on a seperate partition. I have the fstab set up properly, but when I go to chown it, I get "Operation not Permitted", even though I'm root.
[01:41] <mazda01> jrib, if I have a long statement how could I possibly get it on one line?
[01:41] <musicgeek1> II: makes sense.  I'll try that.  THanks!
[01:41] <jrib> mazda01: you summarize it and pastebin relevant details
[01:41] <Radtoo> KB1JWQ: besides the more important thing than the fs would be to inform the user what likely hasnt been written or broken since he yankd out the drive :>
[01:41] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, yeah i know. i figured he was bot but I thought I'd try
[01:41] <stillinbeta> Any way to force chown to perform the change, or know why it's being denied?
[01:41] <Okay> jrib, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218433/   i just need to know how to navigate there
[01:42] <mazda01> jrib, ok. sorry
[01:42] <KB1JWQ> stillinbeta: Pastebin that; I'm curious to see it.
[01:42] <jrib> mazda01: no need to apologize :)
[01:42] <jrib> Okay: WHERE?
[01:42] <Okay> the /etc folder
[01:42] <stillinbeta> KB1JWQ: pastebin what, the error, the fstab ?
[01:42] <mafren> Anybody here used greenos ?
[01:42] <jrib> Okay: cd /etc/
[01:42] <jrib> !who | Okay
[01:42] <mafren> !gos
[01:42] <KB1JWQ> stillinbeta: All of them. :)
[01:43] <Guest61010> is there a way to start updataing ubutu from the command prompt ?
[01:43] <KB1JWQ> stillinbeta: and an ls -al $MOUNTPOINT
[01:43] <Shadow__X> hello everyone i am 3 problems one is that the back button on my mouse isnt working another is that the caps lock light on my mac keyboard isnt working and finally when i have my usb hub connected ubuntu doesnt want to boot
[01:43] <jrib> !apt > Guest61010
[01:43] <Shadow__X> i have*
[01:43] <Okay> jrib, can you navigate to it without the terminal
[01:43] <moymoy> Guest61010: sudo aptitude update .. then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[01:43] <KB1JWQ> Shadow__X: Three problems, one answer: I blame the USB hub.
[01:43] <Guest61010> ty
[01:43] <jrib> Okay: only if you promise to be careful and close it after you delete what you want to delete: gksudo nautilus
[01:44] <KB1JWQ> Shadow__X: You may be oversaturating the USB bus; try a powered hub?
[01:44] <mazda01> i set brasero to always open the audio cd creator when  a blank cd is inserted and now I want to change it back so I get a prompt. anyone know where to fix this?
[01:44] <Okay> jrib, someone earlier mentioned that sudo apt-get autoremove works?
[01:44] <Shadow__X> KB1JWQ, fine except the keyboard and mouse issues persist without the hub and it used to work on ubuntu 8.10 perfectly fine
[01:45] <woodworker> ne one wanna help a newbie set up wireless network
[01:45] <jrib> Okay: apt only knows about things you install using apt.  You didn't use apt for turboprint
[01:45] <stillinbeta> KB1JWQ: alright, this'll be tricky. I can't have both X and that setup right now :-/
[01:45] <arand> mazda01: nautilus preferences, media
[01:46] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, i just made sure that libapache2-mod-php5 is installed and it it. I still can't fuigure out why phpmyadmin isn't working.
[01:46] <Okay> jrib, I'll just forget it. thanks for all your help man
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> stillinbeta: Urm... do this in a terminal window.
[01:46] <jrib> mazda01: did you follow the other troubleshooting steps as well?
[01:46] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, I don't see how the second line answered the question in line 1 though? I still need help please
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> Copy and paste, the end.
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: Read the documentation. :)
[01:46] <jrib> Okay: did you delete the files successfully?  It's trivial using gksudo nautilus
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> !lamp
[01:47] <avinash> server irc.freenode.org
[01:47] <arand> woodworker: ask a question which people may answer, normally there's no private assistance..
[01:47] <Okay> jrib, it said there was no external monitor
[01:47] <joeborder> I need some help with my sound, can anybody point me in the right direction
[01:47] <Shadow__X> KB1JWQ, any ideas?
[01:47] <Okay> jrib, lol
[01:47] <jrib> Okay: get out of sudo su...
[01:48] <Okay> jrib, i'm already out.
[01:48] <Socah> joeborder, more details?
[01:48] <jrib> Okay: then run the command I gave you
[01:48] <woodworker> arand:  I guess I dont really know what to ask.... I cant get it to work
[01:48] <mazda01> arand, within nautilus preferences, Media, everything is already set to "Ask what to do". So that's not it. any other suggestions
[01:48] <arand> mazda01: Then I don't know.
[01:48] <Okay> jrib, i see it now. i was in wrong directory
[01:49] <arand> mazda01: Is the "never prompt..." option unticked there as well?
[01:49] <geent1> Hello there join the #flossk
[01:49] <StrangeCharm__> my squid is creashing because "FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!
[01:49] <StrangeCharm__> " how can i resolve this?
[01:50] <stillinbeta> KB1JWQ: pastebin and lynx don't play well.
[01:50] <Dekko> Hello ... just wondering what I can do to get back my icons in the Fast-user-switching applet? (the one with shutdown in it etc) - mucked about with some themes, and now the icons aren't there.... help please?
[01:50] <Susanna777> moymoy, i got it to work, thanks for the help
[01:50] <joeborder> Socah, i was trying to update my existing sound drivers to be able to change between jack states on my soundcard as it only plays from the rear, i found the drivers i use for windows and there was linux support so i followed the steps and installed it. At the end of it my speakers werent picked up at all and now my sound is completely gone. Im trying to find out if i can restore to my old drivers
[01:51] <godmode> hello
[01:51] <godmode> you guys i got a problem :(
[01:51] <moymoy> Susanna777: oooh nice, how did you get it to work?
[01:51] <Socah> joeborder, ok, what's ur sound card?
[01:51] <mazda01> arand, it is but it's not checked.
[01:51] <pedro3005> does anyone know how to prevent GNOME from putting a icon in your desktop everytime you mount something?
[01:52] <Okay> jrib, I guess nothing about turboprint is there. then why is it listed in the preferences and administration tabs?
[01:52] <Susanna777> moymoy, the desktop switcher fixed it
[01:52] <arand> woodworker: What have you done so far, what exactly are you trying to acheive, what instructuions have you followed (or do you want links to..?)?? etc. etc., without that info people won't be able to help you...
[01:52] <jrib> Okay: try 'killall gnome-panel' and see if it goes away (will restart your panel)
[01:52] <Shadow__X> hello everyone i am having 3 problems one is that the back button on my mouse isnt working another is that the caps lock light on my mac keyboard isnt working and finally when i have my usb hub connected ubuntu doesnt want to boot this exact setup worked in 8.10 and i noticed these issues after an update on 9.04
[01:52] <Susanna777> moymoy, i had to restart the computer though
[01:52] <moymoy> Susanna777: ahh, good =p glad i could help
[01:53] <StrangeCharm__> my squid is creashing because- FATAL: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!, what can i do to resolve this?
[01:53] <joeborder> socah, ive been trying to find that out, from what i can tell it looks like "nVidia corp mcp73 high def audio (rev1)"
[01:53] <godmode> i was upgrading all the software on ubuntu and when it was done.. it restarted but now, i can only log in and after the only thing that appears is a background screen and the mouse pointer...ubuntu wont load :(
[01:53] <Okay> jrib, it's not in the panels. its under system>preferences and system>administration
[01:53] <woodworker> arand  I have put in my ssid, authetication method and network key..... then when I go back it shows wireless connection with a colun then to the right is says never in the network connection box
[01:54] <jrib> Okay: it will reload your menu
[01:54] <ZivBk1> I hope this isn't a common problem, but why does the login screen have a different (wrong) refresh rate than the grub and boot progress screen and the after login desktop screen?  And how do I change it for just the login screen?
[01:54] <jrib> Okay: it will reload your menu
[01:54] <Sensiva> I am using Ubuntu Hardy 64, I wonder why Firefox is using 50% of my CPU?
[01:54] <stillinbeta> KB1JWQ: pastebin.com/m6d0932a6
[01:54] <Socah> joeborder, is it laptop?
[01:54] <joeborder> socah, no its a desktop
[01:54] <stillinbeta> KB1JWQ: that's fstab
[01:54] <stillinbeta> I'll be right back, need to reboot.
[01:54] <arand> woodworker: that means it HAS never been connected, YET.
[01:55] <Socah> joeborder, card is integrated?
[01:55] <Okay> jrib, "try 'killall gnome-panel' and see if it goes away" using that?
[01:55] <joeborder> socah, it looks that way yes
[01:55] <jrib> Okay: yeah
[01:55] <Socah> joeborder, ok, open terminal, type lspci, try to find a name of your audio device
[01:55] <woodworker> arand........ why would it have changed my network key...... b/c after setting all that up.... I cant go anywhere on the internet
[01:55] <thomson> what is the partition editor that is used in the ubuntu install?
[01:55] <Socah> joeborder, and copy it there
[01:55] <Guest61010> any suggestions on how I can fix my sound /
[01:56] <Socah> thomson, fdisk?
[01:56] <woodworker> arand..... I am using a live bood from usb device
[01:56] <Socah> thomson, but you should use gparted
[01:56] <joeborder> socah, 00:09.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[01:56] <thomson> Socah: ok
[01:57] <Okay> jrib, no. its still there for some reason
[01:57] <arand> woodworker: changed network key? Do you mean it has worked before?
[01:57] <ZivBk1> How do I change the refresh rate for the login screen?
[01:57] <jrib> Okay: check /usr/share/applications/  (this is the problem with software installed without apt)
[01:58] <Socah> joeborder, first of all, open terminal type alsamixer and check if all channels are over 80% and don't have "M" letter in the begging of sound bar
[01:58] <woodworker> arandno.. but when I opened it back up the network key was really long...... it asks me to create default keying - what is this
[01:58] <thomson> Socah: so download and put gparted onto a usb thumb drive?
[01:58] <bruenig> PROTOP: update-desktop-database is useful
[01:59] <Okay> jrib, yeah, they're both there
[01:59] <Socah> thomson, as far as I know, there is even gparted livecd, or liveusb - check google
[01:59] <Okay> jrib, i can just safely delete them?
[01:59] <jrib> Okay: yes
[01:59] <joeborder> socah, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory.
[02:00] <woodworker> arand no.. but when I opened it back up the network key was really long...... it asks me to create default keying - what is this
[02:00] <CleanLaundry> When trying to install a windows program, i get an error stating I do not own /home/justin/.wine ?
[02:00] <Okay> jrib, yeah, that got rid of it forever! I'm never installing stuff like that again
[02:01] <jrib> Okay: cool
[02:01] <Okay> thanks a lot jrib. I waste like half of you day. Thank you very much for helping me
[02:01] <woodworker> arand sorry it is create default keyring
[02:01] <jrib> Okay: it's okay, I finished a script in the meantime :)
[02:01] <CleanLaundry> actually the error is " Unable to find a volume for file extraction. Please verify that you have proper permissions."
[02:01] <behnam> syanptic says there is an error with the package alsa-driver-linuxant.  this might have happened after my roomie upgraded his kernel 2 weeks ago?  anyways, his sound doesnt work.  i can't get this package to  install or uninstal.  there has to be a way around it?
[02:01] <arand> woodworker: the key, if you view it, normally changes to a different encoding (HEX, instead of plain-text ASCii, why I do not know...) , the keyring is a password to ensure that only certain users on the machine can access the wireless, if you do not need that safety precation, it can be left empty (sorry, delayed answer, had to type a lot...)
[02:01] <Socah> joeborder, I had same problem few hours ago... I suggest you installing newest alsa first (1.0.20). Follow this guide: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/05/09/upgrade-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[02:02] <behnam> E: alsa-driver-linuxant: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[02:02] <Okay> jrib, have fun with that script. I'll see you around. :)
[02:02] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, now it says I don't have permission to access this page. can you please help?
[02:02] <Shadow__X> hello everyone i am having 3 problems one is that the back button on my mouse isnt working another is that the caps lock light on my mac keyboard isnt working and finally when i have my usb hub connected ubuntu doesnt want to boot this exact setup worked in 8.10 and i noticed these issues after an update on 9.04
[02:02] <KB1JWQ> !lamp > mazda01
[02:02] <joeborder> socah, thanks ill have a try
[02:02] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: Seriously.  Go read, follow the steps it outlines.
[02:03] <woodworker> arand that is fine no worries........ ok I have my ssid which in windows is just my name... and I have my network key typed in with the wpa authentication type
[02:03] <Socah> joeborder, after you are done, you could try to join #alsa channel, and ask for help - they know more about alsa, also they have a script that you will run, and it will tell them more details that can help you. It will be much faster, than asking 100 questions and guessing - good luck
[02:03] <joeborder> socah, thanks for all the help
[02:03] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, i believe I have. I just can't believe there's this much config to get something that seems so easy to work. it seems like i have to know how to build a website just to use phpmyadmin.
[02:04] <bruenig> behnam: that is a bug in apt. One I pointed out 4 years ago but no one cares about. What you will have to do is remove the prerm script.
[02:04] <Socah> joeborder, no problem :)
[02:04] <bruenig> behnam: find /var | grep prerm should show you where it is
[02:04] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: Heh, phpmyadmin is a relatively involved web application.
[02:05] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: If setting it up is too daunting, I'm not sure what you expect it to be able to do for you; I just access mysql via the CLI.
[02:05] <bruenig> phpmyadmin is obnoxious, just run your own mysql queries
[02:05] <bruenig> it is so much easier
[02:05] <bruenig> KB1JWQ: that way is easier though really
[02:05] <behnam> bruenig: thanks, what does that script do?
[02:05] <bruenig> behnam: probably calls rmmod
[02:05] <bruenig> nonetheless, delete that nonsense
[02:05] <woodworker> arand now when I try to connect to hidden wireless connection it comes up and puts everything in but imidately pops up and says disconnected from wireless network
[02:06] <jrib> behnam: probably makes sense to read it instead of just deleting it
[02:06] <behnam> bruenig: i found this... /var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-driver-linuxant.prerm     ok, i'll read it, and rename it
[02:06] <bruenig> it really doesn't need to exist at all, you can delete files in linux when they are opened
[02:06] <bruenig> why the prerm
[02:06] <bruenig> stupid debian nonsense
[02:07] <thomson> would it be best to create all my partitions by booting from the gparted live cd first, or install windows and use the windows partition manager to create the windows partition then when i install ubuntu create the rest of the partitions?
[02:07] <Shadow__X> KB1JWQ, even without the hub the problem still remains
[02:07] <thomson> this is to dual boot btw
[02:07] <jrib> bruenig: it's a packager's decision.  Presumably, it serves a purpose
[02:07] <stillinb1ta> KB1JWQ:  drwxrwx--- 14 root plugdev 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 sib
[02:07] <arand> woodworker: does it say anything more?
[02:07] <bruenig> jrib: the packaging guidelines tell you to do it though
[02:07] <Shadow__X> KB1JWQ, also this exact setup worked in 8.10
[02:07] <bruenig> they tell you to stop daemons, etc.
[02:07] <jrib> bruenig: only if you need to do something preremoval, sure
[02:07] <stillinb1ta> KB1JWQ: chown: changing ownership of `/home/sib': Operation not permitted
[02:08] <bruenig> jrib: no they say specifically that if it is a daemon, you must call it to be stopped. But this is silly, what if trying to stop it creates a nonzero exit?
[02:08] <jrib> bruenig: that's a policy decision I bet, not a technical one
[02:08] <woodworker> arand as soon as I hit connect button it pops up in the top right wireless network 1 - disconnected - you are now disconnected......... then the window disappears
[02:08] <bruenig> now I have to go jack around in /var, that is not user-friendly
[02:09] <duvnell> I just installed a sound card.. lspci shows it.. it's an older PCI Turtle Beach au8830.. the snd_au8830 module and its dependancies loaded by themselves at boot, but there are no alsa devices shown by aplay -L  ... what should I do next.. ubuntu 8.04 btw
[02:09] <behnam> jrib, bruenig, i renamed it, should i restart?
[02:09] <bruenig> jrib: it is a policy decision yeah. It is short-sighted though and they refuse to do anything about it. But whatever.
[02:09] <mazda01> KB1JWQ, I have tried that but I don't know all the mysql command to show privileges and create tables and whatnot. I'll keep reading I guess. I am sure I'll figure it out sooner or later. it'll just take me hours instead of minutes if you could tell me what to do. gotta go. thanks anyway.
[02:09] <jrib> bruenig: it could handle failure more gracefully for sure
[02:09] <KB1JWQ> stillinb1ta: Well duh.
[02:09] <arand> woodworker: if you have the network preferences set-up and "connect automatically" enable you shouldn't need to use "connect to hidden"...
[02:09] <bruenig> everytime I come in here, there is someone with that problem though
[02:09] <KB1JWQ> stillinb1ta: It has to belong to its user if it's set as their homedir. :)
[02:09] <bruenig> behnam: just remove the package now
[02:09] <geent1> join #flossk
[02:09] <bruenig> by the way, renaming it is the same thing as deleting it
[02:09] <stillinb1ta> KB1JWQ: that's what the second error was.
[02:09] <woodworker> arand...... yes they are, but I dont know why it isnt connecting
[02:09] <bruenig> as far as the apt-get remove is concerned
[02:09] <behnam> probably completely remove it
[02:09] <stillinb1ta> The outpot of my attempted chown
[02:10]  * KB1JWQ retreats to #postfix
[02:10] <behnam> complete removal?
[02:10] <bruenig> behnam: probably doesn't matter
[02:10] <bruenig> but sure
[02:10] <arand> woodworker: I'm not really sure what to do, we could try doing some stuff in terminal, you got a terminal up?
[02:10] <hastig> how the f#$@ do you get the newest version of flash to work on 64 bit jaunty?
[02:11] <woodworker> arand:  a what....... sorry I am a very green newbie
[02:11] <Shadow__X> anyone know how to fix the problems i am having
[02:11] <jrib> hastig: copy the libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and restart your browser?  I assume you are using the 64bit version of flash
[02:11] <KB1JWQ> mazda01: I'm sure I could set it up faster than you.  But doing it yourself 1. will teach you what you're doing better than having me do it for you, and 2. I don't recall you paying me to do your job for you. :-D
[02:11] <arand> woodworker: menu  applications > accessories > terminal
[02:11] <jrib> Shadow__X: yes
[02:11] <arand> sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning essid ***
[02:12] <hastig> whoops i meant JAVA
[02:12] <Shadow__X> jrib, really that would be great could you tell me how
[02:12] <hastig> 64 bit JAVA
[02:12] <jrib> !helpme | Shadow__X
[02:12] <behnam> bruenig, jrib, ok, it removed, now i want to reinstall it.  because i need alsa to work.
[02:12] <woodworker> arand:  thanks........ how do I know whether the mode on my wireless connection is infastructure or ad-hoc
[02:12] <jrib> Shadow__X: I have no idea what your issue is after reading what you said
[02:12] <bruenig> behnam: removing and reinstalling a package is pretty silly
[02:12] <bruenig> just so you know
[02:12] <PaCcO`XS`> hello
[02:12] <PaCcO`XS`> help me pls
[02:13] <behnam> bruenig: i figure it might have gotten screwed in the installation somehow?
[02:13] <jrib> hastig: what is wrong with the version in the repostories that is painless to install?
[02:13] <bruenig> behnam: probably not
[02:13] <arand> woodworker: One thing that's I've found useful, just for poking the wireless to get it going is the command  "sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning essid ***" Where *** is your ssid
[02:13] <woodworker> arand: I now have terminal open
[02:13] <jrib> !ask | PaCcO`XS`
[02:13] <behnam> you think it probably just didnt work?
[02:13] <hastig> jrib there is a version in the repositories?
[02:13] <jrib> !java > hastig
[02:14] <PaCcO`XS`> jrib my tar block zero
[02:14] <jrib> PaCcO`XS`: your tar block zero? what?
[02:14] <arand> woodworker: normally infrastructure, if you have an access point/router of some kind, not just a net setup between computers
[02:14] <hastig> jrib i meant sun java not iced tea
[02:14] <PaCcO`XS`> jrib can u expalin me please when i try tu tar zip file i have this message zero ...
[02:15] <jrib> hastig: that's fine, read ubottu's link
[02:15] <jrib> !pastebin | PaCcO`XS`
[02:15] <PaCcO`XS`> ???
[02:15] <sony> yo
[02:15] <woodworker> ok....... it told me invalid scanning option
[02:15] <woodworker> arand: ok....... it told me invalid scanning option
[02:15] <soreau> PaCcO`XS`: Pastebin the error message you're receiving
[02:16] <sony> iki opo
[02:17] <PaCcO`XS`> nik ma vie m3akom
[02:17] <thomson> is 8.10 capable of reading and writing from ntfs?
[02:18] <jrib> thomson: yes
[02:18] <thomson> k
[02:18] <arand> woodworker: hmm, does your network show up if you do just "sudo iwlist scan"
[02:18] <jrib> !english | PaCcO`XS`
[02:18] <soreau> woodworker: What is your wifi listed as in the output of 'iwconfig'?
[02:18] <genii> !id | sony
[02:18] <behnam> jrib, bruenig, his audio was screwed, and i saw that bad package, what can i do?  i figure he needs that package for alsa to work.  i think alsa got screwed when he upgraded his kernel.  or mabye he went in and edited some files without knowing what he was doing
[02:19] <bruenig> it was probably the kernel update
[02:19] <bruenig> I don't know though, I don't use alsa
[02:19] <sony> ubuntu-id
[02:19] <woodworker> arand yea it says wlan0  network is down...... I was just using it in windowns
[02:19] <jrib> behnam: check if it works with the old kernel?
[02:19] <woodworker> soreau I dont know what you mean....... I am very green to this ubuntu and linux thing sorry
[02:20] <behnam> jrib, bruenig, yeah maybe i should roll the kernel back?  sound did work on the previous version in grub
[02:20] <soreau> woodworker: Ok, what are you trying to ultimately accomplish?
[02:21] <woodworker> ultimately host a moodle site with my laptop booted from a usb bootable disk....... right now trying to get wireless network connection so I can access the internet
[02:21] <behnam> is it bad to roll the kernel back?  can i even do that?
[02:21] <woodworker> soreau: ultimately host a moodle site with my laptop booted from a usb bootable disk....... right now trying to get wireless network connection so I can access the internet
[02:22] <hastig> jrib ubottu's message was unhelpful
[02:22] <hastig> there is only 32bit sun java jre
[02:22] <jrib> hastig: pastebin
[02:22] <soreau> woodworker: Assuming you have no ethernet connection option and you're using wifi, what is your wifi hardware listed as in the output of 'lspci'?
[02:22] <woodworker> arnd it also said interface does not support scanning then it said network is down
[02:22] <hastig> paste bin what????
[02:22] <jrib> hastig: more specifically, pastebin: sudo apt-get install the-package-ubottu-told-you-about
[02:23] <hastig> i just went to synaptic and found that it only came in the 32 bit variety jrib
[02:23] <woodworker> soreau.... I do have ethernet available...... and I am not sure what the second part means.....
[02:23] <jrib> hastig: that's not true.
[02:23] <neko_> hastig: what package
[02:23] <neko_> ?
[02:24] <hastig> neko_: sun java jre
[02:24] <jrib> hastig: see for yourself: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/sun-java6-bin
[02:24] <soreau> woodworker: So why don't you just plug the ethernet cable into your laptop?
[02:24] <neko_> so your saying you need 64 bit sun java jre?
[02:24] <arand> woodworker: try "iwconfig" to make sure we are using the right name for the wireless interface wlan0 or othewise
[02:24] <neko_> !java
[02:24] <neko_> mm
[02:24] <neko_> ok lets get oldskool
[02:25] <woodworker> arand ok........ it says essid: " "
[02:25] <thomson> should i go with 8.10 or 9.04 ?
[02:25] <neko_> sun java jre 64bit jaunty
[02:25] <jrib> thomson: 9.04
[02:25] <neko_> thats all you need to know there
[02:25] <neko_> you can even feel lucky if you like
[02:25] <neko_> first try btw
[02:25] <jrib> neko_: ubottu already provided the answer
[02:25] <woodworker> soreau because when I want to get on the net I dont want to be stranded to the cable, but it may come to that
[02:26] <neko_> jrib: which i spit out
[02:26] <neko_> lol
[02:26] <neko_>  /made it spit/
[02:26] <licul> i'm looking for a job. can anyone help me?
[02:26] <jrib> !ot | licul
[02:26] <soreau> woodworker: Alright, so your drivers are probably working if 'iwlist scan' shows your AP
[02:27] <jrib> hastig: were you able to install it?
[02:27] <woodworker> soreau AP?
[02:27] <Shadow__X> i just tried xev and imwheel -c and it doesnt detect my mouse's side buttons
[02:27] <soreau> woodworker: Yes, AP = Access Point
[02:27] <jrib> Shadow__X: ubuntu version?
[02:27] <neko_> anyway anyone got nvidia and 1080p and flash working with zero tearing?
[02:28] <arand> woodworker: so that would be a hidden w-l net.... and if you instead do "sudo iwlist ### scanning essid ***" where again ### is the name of your interface we got from iwconfig (standard wlan0 or ath0) and *** is the essid for your hiden network.
[02:28] <jexd> non-ubuntu related question - if i want to get to somewhere like #zune, what server do i need to be on? just looking for guidance sorry this is the wrong channel
[02:28] <Shadow__X> jrib, 9.04 except i wasnt having these issues untill i updated afew days ago
[02:28] <woodworker> soreau :  all it shows is interface doesn not support scanning : network is down next to wlan0
[02:28] <hastig> jrib still on it
[02:28] <jrib> Shadow__X: make sure evdev is getting used by reading /var/log/Xorg.0.log (don't know a better way)
[02:28] <neko_> jexd: all channels are on all servers; try #freenode for network support
[02:28] <jrib> hastig: let me know if you have questions
[02:28] <jexd> neko: thanks. that answers it
[02:28] <[rainman]> can anyone help me
[02:29] <jrib> !ask | [rainman]
[02:29] <arand> woodworker: ah, if that is what iwconfig says the drivers might, be troubling, would be my guess...
[02:29] <soreau> woodworker: Ok, try bringing it up with 'sudo ifup wlan0'
[02:29] <neko_> jexd: np
[02:29] <[rainman]> ...
[02:29] <[rainman]> im having a hard time connecting my ubuntu to a windows shared printer
[02:30] <woodworker> arand when I type that in it give me > right below the line
[02:30] <BePhantom> soreau, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[02:30] <soreau> woodworker: Do Ctrl+C. You typed it in with an odd character, probably a stray ''
[02:30] <soreau> BePhantom: Doesn't ifup do the same thing?
[02:30] <moymoy> [rainman]: in your browser, try going to localhost:631/admin
[02:30] <BePhantom> soreau, don't know :P
[02:31] <arand> woodworker: hum, you should not use any quotation marks or parenthesis or otherwise in these commands
[02:31] <soreau> BePhantom: Well then why are you telling me... nm
[02:31] <racecar56> i'm using virtualbox ose and i have a problem, should i ask here or #vbox?
[02:31] <racecar56> and i didn't compile it myself, it was repos
[02:31] <woodworker> soreau it says ignoring unknow interface wlan0=wlan0
[02:31] <woodworker> arand: I am out of that now
[02:31] <hipitihop> Oceanic: yup removal of 2.2.4 and install of 3.0.2 of virtualbox went without hitch. thanks.
[02:32] <woodworker> arand soreau : yes I did my ssid is Dan's
[02:32] <soreau> woodworker: What is your interface listed as in the output of 'iwconfig'?
[02:33] <Interphase> is anyone else here unable to load hulu vidoes in firefox with jaunty?
[02:33] <soreau> Interphase: Yea, why?
[02:34] <Shadow__X> jrib, for some reason xorg.0.log seems to point that  it detects my mouse as being a 5 button when its a 7 button it has back and forward buttons
[02:34] <woodworker> soreau: sorry again?  what are you looking for I have the sudo iwconfig up....... wlan0 is the only thing that has anything up
[02:34] <Interphase> soreau, I was hoping to fix it
[02:34] <soreau> Interphase: Des youtube and other flash work for you?
[02:34] <StrangeCharm__> Interphase-  have you got flash?
[02:34] <Interphase> soreau, yes, youtube and other flash works
[02:34] <jrib> Shadow__X: did you determine if evdev is being used?
[02:35] <soreau> woodworker: Type 'iwconfig' without quotes in your terminal, press enter and pastebin the output
[02:35] <woodworker> arand could my problem be my ssid having an "   '    " in it
[02:35] <StrangeCharm__> Interphase-  are you in the USA? What does the 'not working' look like?
[02:35] <switch10_> does anybody here use devede's gui to convert avi to dvd?
[02:35] <soreau> Interphase: Huh, that's weird. In what way does it fail?
[02:35] <switch10_> im trying it out now
[02:35] <woodworker> soreau....... I can type them...... I am not on the same computer
[02:35] <Interphase> StrangeCharm__, I am in California.
[02:35] <Guest61010> hi, I'm having issues with my sound, anyone able to help me?
[02:35] <arand> woodworker: possible.
[02:35] <Interphase> It loads the whole page but the part where the video should be remains blank
[02:35] <Shadow__X> jrib, yes i see things like this in the log (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[02:35] <Shadow__X> (**) Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard: xkb_rules: "evdev"
[02:36] <soreau> woodworker: Ok, well just make sure it's in fact showing 'wlan0' or 'ath0'..
[02:36] <dreamy> where is the ftp server home directory ?
[02:36] <StrangeCharm__> Interphase-  blank or black? what sort of menu do you get on a right-click?
[02:36] <dreamy> in linux..
[02:36] <soreau> woodworker: Just tell us the interface names
[02:36] <StrangeCharm__> dreamy-  what ftp server are you using?
[02:37] <dreamy> i cant remeber .. tftphpa ?
[02:37] <Interphase> Stiletto, it is black like the black on either side of the video. I get a small menu when I right click
[02:37] <jrib> Shadow__X: it may say that but sometimes later say something went wrong
[02:37] <dreamy> tftpd h** somth
[02:37] <Interphase> 'copy, select all, view selection source, properties'
[02:37] <arand> woodworker: then I think you'll have to use \' everytime you type the essid, to avoid the special meaning " ' " has in the terminal (bash)
[02:37] <Interphase> properties just yields 'Language: english"
[02:38] <StrangeCharm__> dreamy, check that. also, when you say 'home directory' are you referring to the directory that a user is given when they log into the server?
[02:38] <woodworker> soreau:  lo    -   eth0  -   wmaster0   -       wlan0      -     pan 0       - is that what you want
[02:38] <dreamy> StrangeCharm__: i think used that when i had to set  a server to boot from lan im not shure if its the same
[02:38] <arand> woodworker: hopefully it would not affect the configs in network-manager, accepting ' alright, but you never know...
[02:38] <Shadow__X> jrib, so then what do you suggest me do
[02:38] <dreamy> StrangeCharm__: anywhere .. where the remote guest gets into
[02:38] <soreau> woodworker: Yea, so wlan0 is in fact your wifi interface. Does 'iwlist scan wlan0' not work?
[02:39] <icedwater> l
[02:39] <icedwater> Hm.
[02:39] <woodworker> arand:  do i need to force the   '   in my network ssid when I set it up?
[02:39] <StrangeCharm__> dreamy, that's set on a per-user basis, often with a deafult. check your conf file, or edit the settings?
[02:39] <Interphase> oi, anyone know anything about hulu?
[02:39] <soreau> woodworker: Sorry, got that mixed up. It's actually 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[02:39] <dreamy> k..
[02:39] <Interphase> StrangeCharm__, it is black like the black on either side of the where the video should be
[02:39] <Interphase> the menu is small, not like the normal one
[02:39] <dreamy> StrangeCharm__: i can only access trougth the browser usign ftp:// and the dir is empty
[02:39] <dreamy> no pass asked
[02:40] <moymoy> Guest61010: tell us what your problem is
[02:40] <StrangeCharm__> Interphase-  does the right-click menu indicate that you're clicking a flash object, or what?
[02:40] <woodworker> soreau:  no it says unknow command 'wlan0' check iwlist -- help
[02:40] <arand> woodworker: possibly, I really have no idea on that...
[02:40] <soreau> woodworker: Yea, because I got it backward. It's supposed to be 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[02:41] <dreamy> StrangeCharm__: where is a dir called pub ? you know ?
[02:41] <StrangeCharm__> dreamy, you'll have to log into the server, physically, or with ssh or similar to make those changes
[02:41] <zcat[1]> my gwibber has been broken for months now. 'unknown protocol' error on both twitter and identica nobody else seems to have the same problem. removing it, removing all the config and reinstalling doesn't seem to fix the problem. Anyone?
[02:41] <lpsmith> I've been having trouble that sporadically I lose sound and have to reboot to get it back
[02:41] <lpsmith> is there a way I can reset the sound driver in the kernel?
[02:41] <woodworker> soreau interface doesnt support scanning:  network is down
[02:42] <jigp> hello guys what is the best laptop builtin with camera that is very compatible to ubuntu9.04?is it ok toshiba?
[02:42] <soreau> woodworker: Alright, try bringing it up with 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up'
[02:42] <Interphase> StrangeCharm__, no, but when I 'view object source' it is all full of stuff about javascript needing to be enabled and flash installed
[02:42] <KB1JWQ> jigp: Macbook Pro.
[02:43] <StrangeCharm__> Interphase-  because that's the default text that appears if you can't render the appropriate objects
[02:43] <dreamy> StrangeCharm__:  ok.. but then a question about somth a bit different , when doing ssh (ip name) on my local newtork i get no user name asked .. i just have to type a passwrord i dont know wich
[02:43] <moymoy> Interphase: are you using firefox? i've heard hulu having problems with firefox because of another browser that was spoofing as firefox they were trying to block
[02:44] <Interphase> moymoy, yes, I am using firefox
[02:44] <woodworker> soreau:  SI0CIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[02:44] <Interphase> what should I try instead?
[02:44] <ILMAN5> http://it.themarker.com/tmit/article/7309
[02:44] <ILMAN5> oh no
[02:44] <soreau> woodworker: Well that's not good. What is your wifi card listed as in the output of 'lspci'?
[02:44] <ILMAN5> its in Hebrew
[02:44] <moymoy> Interphase: could try epiphany-browser
[02:45] <jigp> hello guys.is toshiba core2duo with builtin camera good for ubuntu9.04?all works?including webcam builtin?
[02:45] <Zzeiss> jigp: well, Macbook Pro mostly works.  Suspend to disk works, but RAM hibernate doesn't (the video never unfreezes).  Nor is the video chipset supported in anything better than VESA mode.  (I know, I have one and have tried both the closed-source nvidia driver (may those ****wads burn in hell forever) and the open-source nouveau driver... neither works.  At all.
[02:45] <switch10_> hulu still works on my ff
[02:45] <soreau> Interphase: hulu's working here in FF on jaunty
[02:45] <Interphase> soreau, what have you done to make that reality
[02:45] <kad_> hey need help what is the name of the file where i can config the IRQ coz i got conflict between my sound card and ethernet! thx
[02:45] <switch10_> im on intrepid and my firefox hulu is fine
[02:45] <switch10_> just checked
[02:46] <woodworker> soreau FireWire (IEEE1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 01)
[02:46] <soreau> Interphase: Nothing really. Just installed flashplugin-nonfree, that's it
[02:46] <soreau> woodworker: Is it an eeepc?
[02:46] <Interphase> soreau, so did I
[02:47] <StrangeCharm__> dreamy you need to specify the username at the command, like ssh username@host
[02:47] <soreau> Interphase: Maybe a silly question, but did you restart FF since then?
[02:47] <Interphase> soreau, I thought I did
[02:47] <Interphase> moymoy, epiphany has the same problem
[02:47] <soreau> Interphase: Well try restarting it again maybe
[02:47] <woodworker> soreau:  sorry hang on........ that is wrong.........   02:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corparation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[02:48] <Interphase> soreau, I did, same problem
[02:48] <sujith> khgh
[02:48] <Interphase> I have super adblock plus, but it is disabled on www.hulu.com
[02:48] <soreau> woodworker: Ah, that sounds more like it ;)
[02:48] <Interphase> and epiphany has the same problem as ff
[02:48] <woodworker> soreau...... sorry new to this stuff
[02:48] <soreau> Interphase: Try turning off the adblocker to see if that's still causing the problem
[02:48] <Seven-7> I think something I've set in my network settings may be slowing down my internet connection, anyway to reset changes I've made?
[02:49] <moymoy> Interphase:  only hulu doesn work? what about youtube?
[02:49] <Interphase> moymoy, youtube works
[02:49] <Interphase> albiet, the buttons look a little buggy
[02:49] <soreau> woodworker: That's ok. So you have a Broadcom chipset which should be using the bcm drivers.. but I don't know much more about them. I'm used to atheros chipsets. You can see which module it's loaded with 'lsmod | grep bcm' though
[02:49] <Erekose> easy question: which Ubuntu version is the latest LTS
[02:50] <Pici> Erekose: Hardy Heron 8.04
[02:50] <Erekose> ty Pici
[02:50] <dreamy> StrangeCharm__: :ok thanks
[02:51] <woodworker> soreau: ok sure
[02:51] <woodworker> :=/
[02:51] <arand> woodworker: just a huch here... If you do "sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1" what does it say? (just to test if the error might be elsewhere) If there is no output that's cool.
[02:51] <[rainman]> after going in my browser what's next?
[02:51] <kad_> hey need help what is the name of the file where i can config the IRQ coz i got conflict between my sound card and ethernet! thx
[02:52] <woodworker> arand:  it says nothing
[02:52] <woodworker> arand:  just another prompt
[02:53] <arand> woodworker: okay, good, no problem on that side then.
[02:53] <woodworker> arand ok good scared me
[02:54] <woodworker> arand:  guess I should read the whole thing
[02:54] <Interphase> moymoy, StrangeCharm__ you guys out of ideas about hulu?
[02:54] <moymoy> Interphase: hold on.. lemme get on hulu to see if it works for me
[02:54] <kad_> indoes = files ?
[02:55] <arand> woodworker: did you try soreau 's command? are bcm module active?
[02:55] <Interphase> moymoy, I am going to reboot
[02:55] <woodworker> arand nope didnt see that
[02:56] <jwfoxjr> if I want to take my wired interface out of the control of NetworkManger I should define it /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[02:56] <woodworker> arand soreau that just gave me another prompt
[02:56] <soreau> hmm
[02:57] <iamslango> I accidentally deleted my /etc/apache.d/ENVVARS file
[02:57] <arand> woodworker: ok, so it found nothing, presumably the bcm module is not loaded then...
[02:57] <iamslango> where can I get the default one again/
[02:57] <soreau> arand: I wonder which driver is providing wlan0 then
[02:57] <woodworker> I assume the vertical line is above the back slash on a US keyboard
[02:58] <soreau> arand: He probably needs to unload whatever that would be and probe the bcm module (the broadcom driver module is 'bcmxxxx' or it at least has bcm in the name, right?)
[02:58] <soreau> woodworker: Yes, that's it
[02:59] <woodworker> soreau the device is a bcm4306
[02:59] <rootlinuxusr_> Why would I get "unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)" when trying to git the kernel?
[02:59] <Interphase> moymoy, does it work for you?
[02:59] <woodworker> soreau thanks
[02:59] <rootlinuxusr_> also, dude.
[02:59] <owen1> is there something like stickiness for an app? i open pidgin and it appears in all my tags (awesome window manager)
[02:59] <soreau> woodworker: lsmod alone would show you all of the loaded modules. The '| grep bcm' means it's piping the output through grep and only showing you modules with the letters 'bcm' in it
[03:00] <woodworker> soreau can you narrow that down there are hundreds of things
[03:00] <nztal-> has anyone successfully defined a network device in /etc/network/interfaces, removed network-manager-gnome, and continued using dnsmasq for local dns cache ?  when i do that myself, i can connected to my router, but i do not retain any internet connectivity.  anyone have any ideas ?
[03:01] <woodworker> soreau: ok hundreds is an exageration but there are alot
[03:02] <arand> soreau: bcm203x would be my guess, as to what provides wlan0, no clue... kernel usually means I'm way to deep in, above my head...
[03:02] <soreau> woodworker: Since there is no output, that is suspicious since you in fact have a wlan0 interface. Try loading one of the broadcom drivers with 'sudo modprobe bcm3510'
[03:02] <soreau> arand: Since he says it's a bcm4306 I'm gonna go with bcm3510 for now ;)
[03:03] <soreau> Maybe I should google what it's supposed to be :p
 Mouse, cdemu may help you....anybody hear of this?
[03:03] <woodworker> soureau it just gave me another pompt
[03:04] <soreau> woodworker: No output usually means success. Now try again with 'lsmod|Grep bcm' and check 'iwconfig' for any changes
[03:04] <soreau> err
[03:04] <motoh> I'm having an annoyance with Ubuntu mounting my PSP as a read only filesystem.
[03:04] <soreau> woodworker: The G in grep is supposed to be lower case
[03:04] <woodworker> soreau ok it shows what we just loaded
[03:04] <KB1JWQ> motoh: So remount it rw.
[03:05] <motoh> KB1JWQ: how do I do that and how do I make sure it does it automatically in the future?
[03:05] <rootlinuxusr_> modify /etc/fstab.
[03:06] <nztal-> jwfoxjr, yes /etc/network/interfaces is where you'd define a connection without network-manager-gnome or say, wicd
[03:06] <soreau> woodworker: Basically, I think ubuntu loaded the wrong driver for your hardware
[03:06] <motoh> Didn't work.
[03:06] <woodworker> soreau:  ok let me try to connect
[03:07] <woodworker> soreau:  it still shows the same thing when I try to connect to hidden network - and it is set to connect automatically
[03:07] <wfiuewfew> Hi! My machine just crashed of overheating --- running Ubuntu. Its cpu was at 50C before the crash. Any ideas why and what is the max acceptable temp?
[03:07] <moymoy> Interphase: yup.. it's working for me.. are you on 64 bit?
[03:08] <Interphase> moymoy, no
[03:08] <Interphase> i386
[03:08] <Interphase> I am downloading boxee
[03:08] <Interphase> hopefully that will d it
[03:08] <Interphase> do
[03:08] <FloodBot3> Interphase: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:08] <woodworker> soureau:  should I have installed bcm 4306 instead of bcm 3510
[03:08] <soreau> woodworker: Well go ahead and unload the driver module with 'sudo rmmod bcm3510' so at least you know how to do this
[03:08] <matt444> hi
[03:08] <Interphase> lol, I guess I type too quickly
[03:08] <matt444> what is the command to see what partitions I have?
[03:09] <woodworker> soureau - ok gone
[03:09] <soreau> woodworker: Well here on my jaunty machine there is only bcm203x, bcm3510 and bcm5974
[03:09] <soreau> woodworker: So you probably need to figure out which module it's incorrectly loaded, rmmod it and then probe the correct driver
[03:10] <shane2peru> RichardYu, hey are you the same fellow that helped me this AM with the gnome-power-manager-inhibt
[03:10] <woodworker> soureau:  would that be the bcm4306 or would that be another one
[03:10] <RichardYu> shane2peru, sorry I am not the person
[03:11] <Out_Cold> can someone direct me to steps to install while booted in another host? I want to install a new ubuntu distro on live cd into lvms
[03:11] <shane2peru> RichardYu, ok, sorry to bug you then. :)
[03:11] <soreau> woodworker: That I cannot tell you directly. I'd have to do some research on google to find out which is the correct driver for your hw
[03:11] <wfiuewfew> any ideas about cpu temp?
[03:11] <woodworker> soureau:  bcm4306 is non existant
[03:11] <Shadow__X> jrib, any ideas and sorry to keep bothering you it just seems like not alot of people know what i should do
[03:11] <soreau> woodworker: Here on my jaunty machine there is only bcm203x, bcm3510 and bcm5974
[03:12] <Interphase> ok, update on the flash thing for me
[03:12] <woodworker> soureau:  yea that must be all there is on mine
[03:12] <jwfoxjr> nztal - thanks - so tired of having NM flip-flop when I change interfaces on my laptop
[03:12] <moymoy> Interphase: it works for me on epiphany .. gonna try on firefox
[03:12] <Interphase> all flash object in my firefox always start as a big gray box with a gray play sign
[03:12] <Interphase> and I have to click it to activate them
[03:12] <phil> when I try to use www.picnik.com the flash player doesn't work, is there a know fix for this issue yet?
[03:12] <Interphase> perhaps this is the problem?
[03:13] <motoh> No luck, still read only even for root.
[03:13] <soreau> woodworker: But more importantly, you have to figure out which driver is providing the wlan0 interface you currently have because it is the wrong one (whatever it is)
[03:13] <oldude67> Interphase, do you have the gnash loaded as well?
[03:13] <woodworker> soureau:  ok any ideas
[03:14] <shane2peru> if I can't ssh into my box, and it is froze up, although it is working, then I'm pretty much locked out?
[03:14] <jigp> hello guys what is the best? DELL or Toshiba (with builtin camera) for ubuntu?thanks
[03:14] <soreau> woodworker: And with that, I will also tell you that you can press the up button in your terminal to get to previously entered commands
[03:14] <nztal-> jwfoxjr, i recommend wicd for laptops.  if your accessing different AP's its easier on dns changes, at least at starbucks, it doesn't interfere with the different setups like network-manager-gnome does.  if you lose connectivity defining your /etc/network/interfaces file, you might want to make sure you have a wicd deb handy, just to get you back online
[03:14] <Interphase> oldude67, no, what is gnash?
[03:14] <soreau> woodworker: But unfortunately I am out of further ideas
[03:14] <Mouse> cdemu....anybody know of this?
[03:14] <switch10_> jigp  both are equally good
[03:14] <arand> woodworker: I'm gonna have to go, now, sorry. Found something which might help at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=816191 but not sure, otherwise googling BCM4306 and ubuntu (or linux) might give you some hints...
[03:15] <soreau> shane2peru: What makes you think it's working? Didn't you just say it's frozen?
[03:15] <oldude67> Interphase, dont worry about it if its not loaded dont loaded it has its own issues with the adobe flash
[03:15] <switch10_> jigp  look into hardware
[03:15] <soreau> Interphase: gnash is a free implementation of flash
[03:15] <jigp> KB1JWQ Zzeiss : sorry my client is not beeping me hehehehe. MACBOOK PRO?what is the model and how much is that?
[03:15] <woodworker> arand:L  thanks
[03:15] <shane2peru> soreau, right, because I was running rsync and the ext usb hdd is still flashing, so, must be it is writing to it.
[03:15] <Mouse> cdemu....anybody know about this I was told it might help me with copyright protections
[03:15] <shane2peru> soreau, however it doesn't respond to the keyboard, or mouse
[03:16] <soreau> shane2peru: Sounds like you should reboot it
[03:16] <Peddy> Mouse, what are you trying to do?
[03:16] <arand> woodworker: You might want to take your issue to the forums as well, people there might know more...
[03:16] <Mouse> make a game work in wine
[03:16] <shane2peru> soreau, also I can't ctrl alt F#
[03:16] <Interphase> ok, something really isn't working
[03:16] <Zzeiss> jigp, KB1JWQ: The one I have is the Macbook 13".  It cost me around $1600 but that was months ago.  It works, but as I said, not *everything* works.
[03:16] <soreau> shane2peru: Yea, reboot it
[03:16] <shane2peru> soreau, I would really like to finish the backup process though
[03:16] <Mouse> sadly I lost the disks so I had to redownload them
[03:16] <woodworker> soreau:  I found thishttps:   //help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff  but doesnt make a lot of sense to me
[03:16] <Jonathan__> hi all
[03:16] <Interphase> because ff wont' load flash videos on bbc.co.uk or boxee.com
[03:16] <nztal-> jwfoxjr, i believe under ordinary circumstances and some good examples its not too difficult to lose connectivty, at least on all interfaces, but i've had some trouble using a local dns cache which wont allow me to access the internet, but will allow me to access the lan, but it helps to have something as backup, in case of the unforseeable
[03:16] <Peddy> Mouse, what game is it? there's a WINE app database, and it lists compatiblity with certain games.
[03:16] <Mouse> it's down
[03:16] <andre> Oi
[03:17] <Mouse> the game runs it just dosen't recognize the disk in the system
[03:17] <Mouse> they said to come here and ask about that thing
[03:17] <Mouse> cdemu
[03:17] <Mouse> said it might help
[03:17] <manbreadj> many many thanks to everyone (esp oldude67, prince_jammy, a couple of others i forgot) for helping me get my netbook running again! after years and years of crashing windows systems, I never even knew one could find this kind of help out there. thanks again!
[03:17] <Peddy> Mouse, yeah I know it's down, but google's cache still has a copy :P
[03:17] <motoh> I'm umable to get this thing to be read/write.
[03:17] <Mouse> oh
[03:17] <jigp> Zzeiss : MACBOOK is a mac os?not good for ubuntu?im really confused
[03:17] <Mouse> well i was just in #winehq
[03:17] <Mouse> they said come here and ask about cdemu
[03:17] <wahyu> allow
[03:17] <Mouse> said it's a kernel mod that might help me
[03:17] <andre> Estou com problemas
[03:18] <shane2peru> Mouse, you gotta love that kind of run around. :)
[03:18] <wahyu> i'm indonesia
[03:18] <Mouse> shane2peru, I do
[03:18] <Peddy> Mouse, run 'winecfg'. have a look in the 'Drives' tab.
[03:18] <wahyu> i'm little to speak english
[03:18] <Mouse> pedy been there done that
[03:18] <Peddy> Mouse, what exactly isn't working? it sounds like a more complex issue
[03:18] <jigp> Zzeiss : does ubuntu 9.04 works on MAC BOOK PRO? and that MAC BOOK PRO has builtin camera?
[03:18] <ctmjr> !in | wahyu
[03:18] <Zzeiss> jigp: Macbook is the hardware.  Specifically, the 13" macbook aluminium unibody.  It works OK; it's what I run, but not perfectly (my previous ancient 3 year old Dell actually did somewhat better )
[03:18] <Mouse> peddy it just dosen't realize the disk is mounted
[03:18] <oldude67> manbreadj, your quite welcom
[03:18] <Mouse> I try to play it and it says "insert disk"
[03:19] <Peddy> Mouse, what game is it?
[03:19] <Mouse> I even tried to start it from the disk and it said "insert disk"
[03:19] <Mouse> temple of elemental evil
[03:19] <shane2peru> Mouse is this a wine problem not reading the cd?
[03:19] <wahyu> its the game
[03:19] <switch10_> jigp  dont buy a mac and put linux on it.  you will be wasting your money
[03:19] <jigp> Zzeiss : with builtin camera on your MAC BOOK PRO?
[03:19] <Zzeiss> jigp: It MOSTLY works.  The camera works.  But suspend-to-RAM does not, and video works only in basic VESA mode (no 3D graphics)
[03:19] <Mouse> if I knew I could fix it shane2peru sadly i am not sure
[03:19] <Mouse> wine should be readin git
[03:19] <Mouse> it see's the disk
[03:19] <shane2peru> Mouse, I mean wine doesn't see the disk?
[03:20] <Mouse> I think it might be the game
[03:20] <Mouse> wine see's it
[03:20] <Interphase> ok, does anyone else get this big gray box with a play symbol in the middle instead of flash objects?
[03:20] <Mouse> they said it might be a copyrigth protection issue
[03:20] <Zzeiss> Well, the macbook hardware is nice.  Very solid.  Real metal (not Dell insta-shatter plastic) and a tempered-glass screen.
[03:20] <woodworker> soreau:  I am running 'sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter'  currently unpacking and installing....... it just returned an error code
[03:20] <shane2peru> Mouse, ahh, if you can get your hands on a XP machine and give it a try, that would eliminate the doubt of the dist
[03:20] <shane2peru> disk
[03:20] <Gwynned> interphase , try downloading adobe flash player 10
[03:20] <Gwynned> or reinstal using synaptic
[03:20] <wahyu> ok.
[03:20] <woodworker> soreau:  this info is off  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=816191
[03:20] <Mouse> yeah I can boot up a vm
[03:20] <Interphase> GWild, I DEED
[03:21] <Gwynned> ok
[03:21] <moymoy> Interphase: try uninstalling whatever flash plugin you're using and download from adobe's website, that's where i got mine from
[03:21] <Mouse> or just boot into my windows drive
[03:21] <Mouse> I will mess with it later
[03:21] <Gwynned> did any message appear?
[03:21] <Mouse> going to hang out with my buddies
[03:21] <shane2peru> Mouse that would be your best bet, to be sure the disk is good.
[03:21] <Zzeiss> jigp: you should search google for it, there's a web page in the forums all about it.
[03:21] <Mouse> well it installed properly
[03:21] <Mouse> so I assume it would be good
[03:21] <Mouse> plus I have the iso mounted
[03:21] <Mouse> and it still wont work
[03:21] <FireVai> hi everyone
[03:21] <FloodBot3> Mouse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <rellik> anyone know anything about grub?  I've been using the default grub setup since install, but I put a new SATA HDD drive in yesterday (and didn't change any of the existing (IDE) drives)...  Now when I boot I get grub's 'Error 15' which apparently means it can't find the file on the disk..  I've been looking through some potential solutions online but haven't gotten one to work for me =/ ...  anybody have any ideas?
[03:21] <motoh> I don't know how to get my PSP to be read-write on USB connection to Ubuntu, can someone guide me a bit?
[03:21] <Gwynned> otherwise , try sudo apt get-install sun java
[03:21] <pkhan> Hey guys.  Anyone know how to determine which repo owns a particular package?
[03:21] <phil> moymoy adobe's site download doesn't work well either, still have the "play" button or blank screen when trying to use anything with flash
[03:21] <FireVai> i'm trying to get firestarter firewall to start at boot.. is there an rc command for that
[03:21] <Peddy> Mouse, can I PM you?
[03:21] <Mouse> I have the iso mounted and the disk burned and neither work
[03:22] <Mouse> yeah
[03:22] <FireVai> think it has to be started as root
[03:22] <shane2peru> Mouse, hmm, that is odd, seems as though it should work then, unless the disk is corrupted after the install thing
[03:22] <jigp> Zzeiss where are you? can you give me your laptop?hehehehe
[03:22] <oldude67> Interphase, my only issue i had was with gnash loaded once i uninstalled it my flash worked with adobe
[03:22] <moymoy> phil: really? have you closed your browser yet?
[03:22] <Mouse> shane2peru, yeah maybe
[03:22] <phil> moymoy many times, restarted computer, no avail
[03:22] <shane2peru> Mouse, wine does see it though?  I remember reading some time back about wine issues with accessing the cd
[03:22] <FireVai> tried to add it to startup apps.. but its not starting at boot
[03:22] <Mouse> maybe
[03:23] <shane2peru> Mouse, could be an old issue though
[03:23] <soreau> woodworker: ndiswrapper is a utility to use wifi drivers designed for windows, in linux
[03:23] <Mouse> but if it was an acccess issue then it wouldn't of installed tho right?
[03:23] <Interphase> ok, I just ran ff in the command line and got a shitton of errors
[03:23] <woodworker> soreau:  is this code going to require an internet connection
[03:23] <shane2peru> Mouse, how did you install it?  via command line?
[03:23] <oldude67> Interphase, pastebin them
[03:23] <soreau> woodworker: What code?
[03:23] <FireVai> hi soreau
[03:23] <moymoy> phil: restarting the computer is not nessecary .. but you need to restart your browser everytime you install a plugin.. i don't know why it doesn't work for you then.. are you using FF?
[03:23] <woodworker> soreau:  sorry again - idiot terms
[03:23] <Mouse> nah gui
[03:23] <Mouse> shane2peru, I use the gui
[03:23] <woodworker> soreau:  sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[03:23] <shane2peru> Mouse, you can install via the command, but after that, accessing the cd for actuall usage, is another thing, and sometimes causes problems
[03:24] <andre> Oi nicoAMG
[03:24] <Flannel> !br | andre
[03:24] <soreau> woodworker: Even apt-get install <package> requires a working internet connection. I recommend always having linux connected to the net
[03:24] <jigp> switch10_ Zzeiss : im not the one who will buy it.my friend want it.we are 4 users of ubuntu here in davao city.havent seen any people who use ubuntu.1 female and 3 boys.im the one who maintain their ubuntu for free coz they are my friends
[03:24] <nicoAMG> hi andre
[03:24] <phil> moymoy I did restart the browser, even found an older version of flash player, my updates today included an adobe update, however still nothing
[03:24] <soreau> hi FireVai
[03:24] <woodworker> soreau:  it tries but says uable to resolve host address
[03:24] <moymoy> phil: not even youtube works?
[03:25] <soreau> woodworker: Right, because you're not connected
[03:25] <woodworker> soreau:  should I try plugging in hard wire to router
[03:25] <phil> moymoy, not sure of youtube, haven't tried, will try now, and let you know
[03:25] <soreau> woodworker: Yes
[03:25] <Interphase> oldude67, http://pastebin.ca/1495363
[03:25] <jigp> switch10_ Zzeiss they want DELL, Toshiba L300 or IBM.they want laptop for ubuntu9.04 that builtin camera would work.i also suggested your opinions about macbookpro hardware
[03:25] <iamslango> no, but seriously, how do I get my /etc/apache2/envvars file back?
[03:25] <switch10_> jigp  i would buy a pc.  they are cheaper and work just as good.  just my opinion.  i own a mac as well.
[03:25] <Wormik> Hi! I have done compiling FireFox 3.5 (for x86-64), but all sites think that it is not Firefox, it is Shiretoko/3.5. How Ubuntu maintainers fix this problem when build 64-bit firefix?
[03:26] <phil> moymoy ok youtube works fine, must be just the www.picnik.com site
[03:26] <darkclown> atx.net
[03:26] <motoh> I need some help figuring out how to mount my PSP read and write, and make it do so automatically in the future.
[03:27] <Wormik> motoh, Ubuntu see this like flash drive
[03:27] <sys_rage> what's another huge channel on freenode? testing an irc client
[03:27] <moymoy> phil: weird.. all flash works well for me
[03:27] <oldude67> Interphase, down at the bottom of the corner of ff does it have a lego looking block there?
[03:27] <phil> moymoy are you able to access and run www.picnik.com?
[03:27] <woodworker> soreau: ok I think I have a hardwire connection now
[03:27] <Wormik> sys_rage, press "list of the channels"
[03:28] <soreau> woodworker: Try 'ping google.com' to find out
[03:28] <rellik> anyone know anything about grub?  I've been using the default grub setup since install, but I put a new SATA HDD drive in yesterday (and didn't change any of the existing (IDE) drives)...  Now when I boot I get grub's 'Error 15' which apparently means it can't find the file on the disk..  I've been looking through some potential solutions online but haven't gotten one to work for me =/ ...  anybody have any ideas?
[03:28] <jigp> switch10_ Zzeiss : their parents there in canada ask them what to buy.and my friends ask my opinion which laptop to buy with builtin camera/wireless and is good for ubuntu9.04 and the rest version of ubuntu.i couldnt give exact information which one to choose...any idea?
[03:28] <motoh> Wormik: Yes, but I don't know how to make it write capable.
[03:28] <Interphase> oldude67, sure does
[03:28] <moymoy> phil: yes
[03:28] <woodworker> soreau:looks like it it is sending me stuff
[03:28] <oldude67> Interphase, click on it
[03:29] <pkhan> Hey guys.  Anyone know how to determine which repo owns a particular package?
[03:29] <legend2440> rellik: http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/grub-error-15-debianubuntu/
[03:29] <jigp> switch10_ : but they go from another places so they cant bring the pc because is heavy
[03:29] <queso> In Nautilus, how do I change the toolbar preferences? (I want to only have Icons, not Icons & Text)
[03:29] <wirechief> i wonder why scanning the mirrors takes so long when you install ubuntu
[03:29] <soreau> woodworker: That means it's working. Now you can 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' to get your system fully updated, and apt-get install anything else you might need
[03:29] <woodworker> soreau:  yes firefox goes to internet now and connect to google
[03:29] <Interphase> oldude67, I did, I get "Plugins in use: Adobe Flash movie (application/x-shockwave)
[03:29] <oldude67> Interphase, tell it to use the flash that you want and restart firefox
[03:29] <switch10_> jigp  pc is a laptop
[03:29] <Wormik> motoh, try sudo mkdir /media/PSP && sudo chown your_username:users /media/PSP && sudo chmod 755 /media/PSP && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 -o users /media/PSP
[03:30] <woodworker> soreau how do I stop the ping
[03:30] <Wormik> Hi! I have done compiling FireFox 3.5 (for x86-64), but all sites think that it is not Firefox, it is Shiretoko/3.5. How Ubuntu maintainers fix this problem when build 64-bit firefox?
[03:30] <soreau> woodworker: Ctrl+C
[03:30] <phil> moymoy I just tried again, I can get the fist page working, but when I click on "get started now" this is what comes up.. a blue box, blank page and in the address box this: http://www.picnik.com/soint2?dest=/app&cdn=true&svc_parameters=&svc_user_parameters=
[03:30] <wirechief> does it look for that fastest out of the many mirrors ?
[03:30] <oldude67> Interphase, its saying you dont have swf which is shock wave i believe.
[03:30] <woodworker> soreau:  Thanks
[03:30] <soreau> woodworker: Ctrl+C typically stops the running process in your terminal
[03:30] <Interphase> oldude67, that doesn't make sense, about:plugins says I do have shockwave flash
[03:30] <jigp> switch10_ like what kind brand of laptop that have wireless/builtin camera good for ubuntu9.04 and ubuntu versions
[03:31] <nztal-> jigp, i can't say what the best laptop for jaunty might be, i've got a HP g60-249wm though, and it works great in jaunty, wireless and web cam, everything else works too, sounds works as well.  only thing that doesn't work is the wifi light is red instead of blue.
[03:31] <woodworker> soreau:  getting updates
[03:31] <switch10_> jigp  go to www.tigerdirect.com  and look
[03:31] <nztal-> jigp, but wifi is fully functional regardless.
[03:31] <behnam> hi, i came on here an hour ago, because there was  a package that i couldnt install or uninstall, so i removed its prerm, but i think i want it back?  i put the prerm back and i can't install that package again.
[03:31] <oldude67> Interphase, well looking at the pastebin you sent that is the flash it is looking for...did you click on it and restart ff and see?
[03:31] <motoh> That's a bit closer, now I get permission denied.
[03:31] <nztal-> jigp, i picked up a refurbished one and saved some money on it
[03:31] <rootlinuxusr_> Where could I find the list of supported Webcams for 9.04?
[03:32] <woodworker> soreau:  What do I have to do to make sure everything I am doing saves - I am running on usb boot with 4.5 gb of extra space when created
[03:32] <jigp> switch10_ nztal-Zzeiss - nice brand that works on ubuntu 9.04 and other version and not so expensive
[03:33] <behnam> jigp, i wouldnt buy from tigerdirect, they're super shady
[03:33] <soreau> woodworker: You're joking, right?
[03:33] <soreau> woodworker: You mean, you're in a live session?
[03:33] <wirechief> must be a fly in the bug pool
[03:33] <Interphase> oldude67, it says that flashplayer-ins
[03:33] <legend2440> pkhan: open synaptic>settings >preferences>columns and fonts tab  select Component and repos will be listed
[03:33] <switch10_> behnam  ive been buying from them for about 10 years and ive had no problems what so ever
[03:33] <Interphase> taller is installed
[03:33] <Interphase> did I not activate it?
[03:33] <woodworker> soreau........ yea...... I told arand that
[03:33] <nztal-> jigp, ooh ok.  i'm not sure.  i got mine in special again it was also refurbished.  so i'm not sure about others.  i took a chance, and everything happened to just work.
[03:33] <oldude67> click on it
[03:34] <oldude67> Interphase, click on it and try again
[03:34] <jigp> switch10_ nztal-Zzeiss behnam i installed ubuntu9.04 in my friend LENOVO gt3000 and all works wifi.but no builtin cam
[03:34] <woodworker> soreau:  is that a problem?
[03:35] <behnam> switch10 jigp i hear they're super bad with rebates
[03:35] <iamslango> no one is ever going to help me with my issue, are they?
[03:35] <switch10_> behnam  everybody is bad with rebates.  that is the individual company's anyways
[03:35] <pkhan> legend2440, thanks!  Exactly what I needed!
[03:35] <bobo> hey guys, how do i install unreal tournament 3, i have the CD for it
[03:36] <soreau> woodworker: Just to be clear, you're using a usb stick or a usb external hard drive?
[03:36] <woodworker> soreau stick because that is what I have right now
[03:36] <jigp> switch10_ nztal-Zzeiss behnam thanks for the tips guys :) good morning
[03:36] <lstarnes> iamslango: it's probably in the apache2.2-common package (it might have a different name)
[03:37] <soreau> woodworker: and did you install ubuntu to it?
[03:37] <woodworker> soreau:  I used cd live session to use usb creator and left 4.5gb of extra space
[03:37] <bobo> anyone?
[03:37] <soreau> woodworker: I don't really know how that works. If you installed ubuntu on it, it should save settings but if it's just a live session you're in, settings will be erased when you reboot
[03:38] <soreau> bobo: Get the loki installer
[03:38] <ctmjr> bobo, does it have the linux instsller on the disk if not you need to download it
[03:39] <bobo> how and where? ive tried googling it
[03:39] <woodworker> soreau:  Well supposedly this will work according to another user I talked to today - noone told me anything else I had to do to make this persistant
[03:39] <bobo> nah, they didnt do that this time
[03:39] <moymoy> soreau: woodworker, Ubuntu comes with a tool specifically made to turn use LiveCDs to make the USB bootable, and it offers a "persistent" mode that saves any settings and installed apps... sadly though, if you change system settings like user password, it won't work
[03:39] <woodworker> soreau:  I got all the upgrades
[03:39] <bobo> !ut3
[03:39] <woodworker> moymoy:  I have changed any of that stuff
[03:39] <ctmjr> bobo, http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/install-and-play-unreal-tournament-on-ubuntu/
[03:40] <woodworker> !bcm
[03:40] <Interphase> oldude67, it is like it is defaulting to swfdeg
[03:40] <Interphase> even thought adobe flash is installed
[03:40] <bobo> ctmjr: yeah i actually have that one, but when it says to mount the disc it is mounted and it doesnt work so this makes me think that thats for the FIRST unreal tournament
[03:41] <woodworker> soreau:  does this mean anything to you?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom#miniPCI
[03:41] <soreau> woodworker: yes..
[03:42] <woodworker> soreau:  good..... looks like jiberish to me
[03:42] <ctmjr> bobo, yea sorry just noticed that too now i feel bad so will keep looking
[03:43] <bobo> nah nah its fine
[03:43] <alpha[]> hello, i am wanting to install xubuntu on a machine that only has SCSI discs. How would I go about installing the OS (since I can't see the HDD's)?
[03:43] <oldude67> Interphase, i know i fought this for aout 3 days before i finally got it to work..i think i uninstalled all of it threw synaptic and reloaded it.
[03:44] <soreau> woodworker: That's kinda old but according to that you need to use bcm43XX-fwcutter with the BCM43xx driver (you have a bcm4306 rev 03)
[03:44] <behnam> hi, my sound is broken, doesn't work.  what is the basic troubleshooting?
[03:44] <Interphase> I uninstalled swfdec
[03:44] <f1lt3r> s
[03:44] <Phrogz> Ubuntu server with 2GB physical RAM, and (atm) 1.5GB swap. Right now it's only using 512MB real RAM (1.5GB free) and, of course, 0 swap. Is there any reason, really, that I should bump my swap up to 2GB?
[03:45] <Phrogz> No, I will not be hibernating.
[03:45] <woodworker> soreau:  I just ran 'sudo apt-get install bcm4306-fwcutter' - it came up and said reading package lists error
[03:45] <motoh> Ok, I can't change owner on the PSP now.
[03:45] <Interphase> oldude67, that did it
[03:45] <oldude67> Phrogz,depends on how muchyou want to do at one time
[03:46] <Interphase> I had to uninstall swfdec, which didn't work
[03:46] <oldude67> Interphase, great glad it worked
[03:46] <soreau> woodworker: Is that exactly what it said?
[03:46] <m0r0n> Ubuntu is saying that my Flash drive is a Read-Only how can I fix that
[03:46] <alpha[]> m0r0n, what filesystem
[03:46] <iamslango> lstarnes, thanks for the response. I tried reinstalling that package. it put everything back except the envvars file
[03:46] <soreau> m0r0n: mount it rw
[03:46] <woodworker> soreau:   E: write error - write (28 no space left on device_ E: IO error saving source cache  - E: the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[03:46] <oldude67> Interphase, so what did you do to get it?
[03:46] <fusionxtc> i have a huge problem ivolving a corrupted file while trying to update can someone please help
[03:46] <lordlimecat> So I have ubuntu 8.04 installed in a dual boot, and I want to A) remove it, B) install ubuntu on a secondary hard drive, and C) still have windows XP bootable off of the first drive.  What is the best way to accomplish this, assuming I do not have an XP install disk?
[03:46] <Phrogz> oldude67 - I'm just about there now. This server has all the processes running that it will have.
[03:46] <soreau> woodworker: Looks like your out of disc space
[03:47] <Interphase> oldude67, I don't remember installing it, I think it came standard
[03:47] <m0r0n> alpha[]:  What? Still new to this soreau: Mount it how? After I plug it in I do what?
[03:47] <lordlimecat> I assume that if i wipe out ubuntu + boot partition off of the XP drive, grub will stop working
[03:47] <oldude67> Phrogz, well then let it run
[03:47] <alpha[]> m0r0n, is it FAT32 or NTFS
[03:47] <oldude67> Interphase, probably
[03:47] <soreau> m0r0n: He asked what filesystem like ntfs, ext3, fat32 etc
[03:47] <Phrogz> oldude67: sound advice. Thanks :)
[03:47] <m0r0n> Oh right. Um I believe I formatted it in NTFS
[03:48] <woodworker> soreau is it possible to be out of 4.5 gb without intalling anything or did I make my other space to great?  I wonder if it didnt delete my .iso file when I created the usb boot drive
[03:48] <alpha[]> if ntfs sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /path/to/disk /localpath
[03:48] <m0r0n> alpha[]:  Scratch that, it says msdos
[03:48] <Interphase> yay! hulu works
[03:48] <bobo> ctmjr: hey that is the correct one, but for whatever reason, the program doesnt want to see my disc
[03:48] <Interphase> and this explains why epiphany didn't work either
[03:48] <alpha[]> uhm, that isn't a filesystem - i believe that's the mbr type
[03:48] <fusionxtc> does anyone know how to help me out? i would like not to reformate my hdd and lose everything
[03:48] <m0r0n> alpha[]:  I don't mind re-formatting it so if it must be done, by all means tell me how to do so
[03:49] <alpha[]> oh, sure
[03:49] <woodworker> soreau:  when I go to places- 4.5gb media - it shows I have 1.7 gb free space
[03:49] <alpha[]> an easy way is
[03:49] <oldude67> Interphase, great glad to hear it
[03:49] <alpha[]> apt-get install gparted
[03:49] <alpha[]> and use the gui
[03:49] <oldude67> fusionxtc, whats wrong?
[03:49] <salvadorfl> hello i have a question , i am using ubuntu 9.04 and i am unable to record my voice andy idea?
[03:49] <soreau> woodworker: Do 'df -h' in your terminal. Here my install is 4.1GB
[03:49] <bobo> ctmjr: i found another site which mite work http://www.xantaz.net/ut-99/how-install-unreal-tournament-ubuntu (youmight not care, idc)
[03:50] <fusionxtc> i tried updating and while i was updating the system i lost connection to the interent this cause a corrupted file and now ubuntu does not boot correctly
[03:50] <wizzo_> fusionxtc: What is your trouble?
[03:50] <fusionxtc> ^^^
[03:50] <alpha[]> hate to bug the people currently aiding others, but in case it wasn't read:
[03:50] <m0r0n> alpha[]:  I tried looking into Add/Remove for it but I didn't find it
[03:50] <soreau> woodworker: I don't know why else you would be getting those errors, they are not very typical and have something to do with the filesystem somehow
[03:50] <alpha[]> hello, i am wanting to install xubuntu on a machine that only has SCSI discs. How would I go about installing the OS (since I can't see the HDD's)?
[03:50] <wizzo_> fusionxtc: Just reinstall ubuntu
[03:50] <fusionxtc> when ubuntu boots it goes to a DOS looking screen
[03:50] <chachin> im back bishes
[03:50] <lordlimecat> Whats the best way to go from a 1-drive dualboot to a 2-drive dualboot, during a fresh install?
[03:50] <alpha[]> m0r0n, use terminal sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:50] <oldude67> fusionxtc, try opening a terminal and typing in sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:50] <m0r0n> Ya it just finished
[03:51] <oldude67> fusionxtc, see if there are errors which there probably are
[03:51] <soreau> fusionxtc: Did you try to finish the update from the terminal?
[03:51] <fusionxtc> how do i open terminal i cannot access ubuntu correctly
[03:51] <soreau> fusionxtc: Booting into recovery mode
[03:51] <fusionxtc> (i am another computer using vista)
[03:51] <oldude67> soreau
[03:51] <woodworker> sourea: says 4.3 gb size   2.6 gb used   1.7gb avail   61% used
[03:51] <salvadorfl> does any body can help me with my sound card?
[03:52] <soreau> woodworker: Well those errors mean something is definitely wrong with the disc or filesystem
[03:52] <fusionxtc> the recovery mode didnt work, i tried using the fsck task but it didnt help
[03:52] <soreau> ! audio | salvadorfl
[03:52] <soreau> ! work | fusionxtc
[03:52] <m0r0n> alpha[]: What should I format it to, I want both Windows and Ubuntu to read and write
[03:52] <oldude67> fusionxtc, run the the dpkg repair
[03:52] <wizzo_> salvadorfl: What is your trouble with your soundcard?
[03:52] <alpha[]> m0r0n, FAT
[03:52] <woodworker> soreau:  great..... so that command is correct to get the bcm and should fix the problem?
[03:52] <salvadorfl> i want to record my voice with the microphone
[03:52] <soreau> m0r0n: ntfs should be fine
[03:53] <lordlimecat> wouldnt ntfs be better for windows/ ubuntu partitions?
[03:53] <salvadorfl> i cant record my voice
[03:53] <alpha[]> no
[03:53] <alpha[]> FAT is much easier
[03:53] <m0r0n> soreau:  I don't have that option right now it's grey alpha[]:  FAT16 or 32
[03:53] <alpha[]> since it's a falsh drive..
[03:53] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[03:53] <lordlimecat> oh flash drive lol
[03:53] <soreau> woodworker: Well that command is to install something that's supposed to assist you in getting the wifi working. I'm not familiar with it
[03:53] <fusionxtc> how do i run dpkg repair task if all i can get past is the grub loader
[03:53] <alpha[]> FAT32 if > 2GB
[03:53] <alpha[]> FAT16 if <
[03:53] <soreau> m0r0n: fat32 then
[03:54] <Ali_nz> if i am remotely logged into a ubunutu box, and for some reason I get disconnected, how do I reconnect to the same "session"
[03:54] <oldude67> fusionxtc, hit the esc key
[03:54] <woodworker> soreau:  I dont have a problem booting to cd and formating drive and increasing space if that will fix the problem, but I dont want to continue to chase my tail
[03:54] <oldude67> and go to recovery
[03:54] <fusionxtc> hold on one sec i have to reboot and go into recovery mode
[03:54] <Phrogz> Ali_nz - google for persistent session
[03:54] <oldude67> fusionxtc, yes
[03:55] <Ali_nz> Phrogz: roger-ta
[03:55] <soreau> woodworker: Well I'm not sure what else to tell you then but those errors look to be pretty serious. I/O errors typically something's wrong with the device where the filesystem resides
[03:55] <phil> moymoy I uninstalled the flashplayer 10, tried the "sudo apt-get install flashplugin..." and got message saying newest version is installed. that website will won't get past the ble box, when I right click on it, I get the flash menu, playing/autoplay etc.. but thats it.
[03:55] <lordlimecat> anyone have any advice to offer on getting a dual-drive, dual boot set up?  Transitioning from a single-drive setup...
[03:55] <oldude67> fusionxtc, when it boots up hit the escape key and go to recovery and hit dpkg repair
[03:55] <oldude67> before grub loads
[03:55] <fusionxtc> oldude67, ohhh yea ive done that before tho and also fsck
[03:56] <woodworker> soreau:  how can I format usb drive when I rebot?
[03:56] <soreau> woodworker: I have no idea
[03:56] <oldude67> fusionxtc, then go to where it says internet connect with root access and do a sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[03:56] <fusionxtc> well i re did it and is already done, its back to the recovery mode options
[03:56] <woodworker> soreau:  Will you be on for a while? if I try this?
[03:57] <soreau> woodworker: I don't know what you're doing and I'm about to go to sleep here in a few, but plenty of other folks will be and you also have google ;)
[03:57] <fusionxtc> do you mean netroot?
[03:57] <dp924> I'm having a problem after a recent update on my laptop where the sound quits working at login, what log file should i look for?
[03:57] <oldude67> fusionxtc, yes
[03:57] <soreau> m0r0n: Please use a pastebin service, not pm
[03:57] <woodworker> soreau:  alright thanks for the help
[03:57] <AzizLight> I'm trying to resize a video with ffmpeg using this command: ffmpeg -i input.avi -s 320x240 output.avi but I always get an error saying that the codec for the output stream is unsupported..something is missing in the command, can someone help me pleasE?
[03:57] <m0r0n> Pasebin service?
[03:57] <fusionxtc> ok its doin a task now
[03:57] <m0r0n> paste*
[03:57] <oldude67> !pastebin
[03:59] <m0r0n> !pastebinit
[03:59] <woodworker> anyone know how to format a usb device in ubuntu?
[03:59] <m0r0n> I'm doing that right now woodworker
[03:59] <m0r0n> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218508/
[04:00] <fusionxtc> ok i did the sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and asked me a question
[04:00] <switch10_> woodworker  gparted
[04:00] <fusionxtc> ill hit yes
[04:00] <m0r0n> I don't know how to do this pastebin thing sorry, but that's the error I'm getting
[04:00] <woodworker> m0r0n:  care to help me out
[04:00] <ScottG> Does anyone here know what script atpitool -S runs or what runs when it comes out of a suspend or hibernate? I want to be able to run some things when I hibernate/suspend and when I come out of hibernate/suspend.
[04:00] <PHISHIE> woodworker: USE GPARTED
[04:00] <woodworker> switch10_:  what is the entire code - kinda of a newbie idiot right now....... I need spoon fed
[04:00] <PHISHIE> sorry about caps =p
[04:01] <m0r0n> woodworker: I'm getting help from others right now but do this sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:01] <switch10_> woodworker  sudo apt-get install gparted     use the gui
[04:01] <ubuntu> hola
[04:01] <oldude67> fusionxtc, thats a good guess yes for a safe upgrade
[04:01] <switch10_> the gui is really easy
[04:01] <fusionxtc> now its doin tasks
[04:01] <oldude67> fusionxtc, sorry bathroom called
[04:01] <m0r0n> switch10_: I'm getting an error, mind diagnosing it?
[04:01] <ubuntu> hay alguien que hable español
[04:02] <switch10_> whats the error
[04:02] <oldude67> !es | ubuntu
[04:02] <woodworker> switch10_  what do you mean use the gui you mean after getting the apt?
[04:02] <fusionxtc> :)nice
[04:02] <m0r0n> switch10_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/218508/
[04:02] <switch10_> !gui
[04:02] <deusr> hi
[04:02] <ubuntu> gracias
[04:02] <Out_Cold> can someone direct me how to do an install from inside an already configured buntu?
[04:02] <oldude67> !hi | deusr
[04:02] <woodworker> phishie:  did you go to onu?
[04:02] <BankHead> Hi
[04:02] <fusionxtc> its done doin tasks now just reboot?
[04:03] <phishie> woodworker: just type gparted on the command line
[04:03] <oldude67> fusionxtc, that would be a good start
[04:03] <phishie> woodworker: onu?
[04:03] <oldude67> fusionxtc, good luck
[04:03] <fusionxtc> eep i hope it turns out well ^__^
[04:03] <woodworker> phishie:  nm I knew a kid that had that last name I went to college with
[04:03] <deusr> Tell me about a version of Skype 2, which works with the modem speed stream? And where I download the older version?
[04:04] <phishie> woodworker: oh lol not me
[04:04] <jdoghacker>  /whois
[04:04] <dp924> how do i shut down the running xserver from command line?
[04:04] <BankHead> don't know
[04:04] <jdoghacker>  / whois
[04:04] <fusionxtc> it booted up the same way :/ all i can do is input codes like as if i were in terminal
[04:04] <deusr> oldude67, ubottu ?
[04:04] <woodworker> phishie:  gparted on command line by its self will format usb device even when running from live session
[04:05] <oldude67> deusr, no im not a bot...lol
[04:05] <m0r0n> switch10_: Figure it out?
[04:05] <deusr> :)
[04:05] <phishie> dp924: crtl-alt+f2 then type sudo killall gdm
[04:05] <dp924> thanks a bunch
[04:05] <oldude67> deusr, ubottu is a bot that has some usefull info..
[04:05] <Chocobo> A question, can usb startup disk creator be used for other distros?
[04:05] <bobo> anyone able to play UnrealTournament 3 ?
[04:05] <phishie> woodworker: oops didn't know you are on live soz
[04:06] <switch10_> m0r0n  sorry i dont know what that error means i havent seen it.  maybe try formatting it as ntfs, then to fat 32
[04:06] <deusr> oldude67, ok!
[04:06] <oldude67> bobo isnt that a windows game?
[04:06] <M4rotku> hey guys, is there a command that i can use to get the temperature of a dvd drive?  assuming it's /dev/dvd
[04:06] <phishie> dp924: ctrl-alt+f7 to get back to X though =o
[04:06] <m0r0n> switch10_:  As if right now everything is grey, I can't do anything
[04:06] <Chocobo> Can usb startup disk creator be used for other distros?
[04:06] <deusr> oldude67, Tell me about a version of Skype 2, which works with the modem speed stream? And where I download the older version?
[04:06] <bobo> its linux too
[04:06] <fusionxtc> oldude67 what do you think i should do now??
[04:06] <bobo> all the unreals are
[04:06] <switch10_> m0r0n  it froze up for some reason
[04:06] <oldude67> fusionxtc, did you reboot?
[04:06] <phishie> Chocobo: I'm not sure about that, but a good alternative would be unetbootin
[04:07] <deusr> oldude67, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762992&highlight=skype+%2B+speedstream
[04:07] <fusionxtc> oldude67: yes it booted the same way as before
[04:07] <linuxuser600> bobo: I think you can in wine, I haven't tried it
[04:07] <bobo> ok
[04:07] <Chocobo> unetbootin always gives me troubles
[04:07] <oldude67> fusionxtc and that is what?
[04:07] <oldude67> duesr, have you tried google and or cnet?
[04:08] <phishie> Chocobo: hmmm, I see... didn't give me problems though.
[04:08] <woodworker> phishie no prob...... I am trying to install to a usb device in order to run a moodle site from my laptop, but it is my wifes and I can only run ubuntu when I want to host the site....... it is a college project....... so I am trying to get loaded to usb device, but we think there is a problem with the device so I am reloading it, but want to format first
[04:08] <fusionxtc> oldude67: it boots into a DOS looking screen, black backround with white text. i can input codes like if i were in terminal
[04:08] <coleys> !ff35
[04:08] <dp924> what if root user is even denied access to user configurations
[04:08] <Chocobo> thanks though, i believe i will attempt it again
[04:08] <moymoy> phil: sorry, i can't help you, since my flash has always worked perfectly for me
[04:09] <fusionxtc> oldude67: i can also log in with my user name and password, its like if gnome doesnt work
[04:09] <bobo> !unreal tournament 3
[04:09] <oldude67> fusionxtc, how long have you waited for that screen to leave before? at one time i waited about 5 mins but i am on an older machine
[04:09] <ctmjr> bobo`that site did not work either?
[04:09] <fusionxtc> oldude67: i left it on over night before and it doesnt go away
[04:09] <oldude67> have you tried the comand startx?
[04:10] <oldude67> fusionxtc,  have you tried the command startx?
[04:10] <fusionxtc> oldude67: no i havnt i dont know much of the commands
[04:11] <fusionxtc> oldude67: in the grub loader there are at least 5 different ubuntu 9.04's to select from with recovery modes
[04:11] <woodworker> switch10_:  how do I run apt once gotten
[04:11] <phishie> woodworker: I have not much experience on that, might need other's help on that
[04:11] <m0r0n> !pastebinit
[04:11] <UbuTheUbi> Hey, I lost control of some files.. They have a lock emblem by them.. How do i regain control im a linux noobie
[04:11] <UbuTheUbi> it says that nobody/nogroup owns them
[04:11] <woodworker> phishie thanks......... just need to format usb device right now
[04:11] <UbuTheUbi> I really just want to delete the folder
[04:12] <oldude67> fusionxtc, start at the top see if it boots normal if you get a command prompt type in startx
[04:12] <dp924> Ubutheubi: sudo rm
[04:12] <phishie> woodworker: but aren't you running on a cd? I think using gparted would allow you to format just the usb device
[04:12] <UbuTheUbi> please be as specific as possible so i dont sudo rm my entire hd :)
[04:12] <UbuTheUbi> terminal scares me
[04:12] <fusionxtc> oldude67: i tried the startx command and it brought me back to my normal ubuntu!
[04:12] <woodworker> phishie:  you can answer me this....... do I have to have the colon after the user name for it to pop up the message to a user?
[04:12] <dp924> ubutheubi: sudo rm -r (name of the folder)
[04:12] <switch10_> woodworker  do you mean how do you run gparted?  type in gparted into the terminal.  its also under system>admin
[04:13] <oldude67> fusionxtc, and it wont load?
[04:13] <UbuTheUbi> ok that was pretty simple lol
[04:13] <UbuTheUbi> thanks
[04:13] <dp924> that will completely remove the folder and everything in it
[04:13] <phishie> woodworker: yeap lol
[04:13] <woodworker> phishie:  yea I am runing a cd, my concern is that gparted will format my harddrive as well - not wanted
[04:13] <fusionxtc> oldude67: the startx made it load
[04:13] <oldude67> fusionxtc, now do updates
[04:13] <fusionxtc> oldude67: just now alot of things are screwed up
[04:13] <m0r0n> !screenshots
[04:13] <holli> !flash
[04:13] <phishie> woodworker: you gotta make sure you choose the correct partition
[04:14] <oldude67> fusionxtc, what do you mean screwed up?
[04:14] <fusionxtc> oldude67: what would u recomend me using for updates so i do not get another corrupt file
[04:14] <phishie> woodworker: most likely the size would tell you that, just be very careful
[04:14] <Out_Cold> can someone direct me how to do an install from inside an already configured buntu?
[04:14] <woodworker> phishie:  how do I find that out?
[04:14] <switch10_> woodworker  if you're on a live cd, you already have gparted
[04:14] <holli> what repo is adobe flash located in 9.04?
[04:14] <woodworker> switch10_:  yea I found that out.......
[04:14] <oldude67> fusionxtc, you didnt get a corrupt file you got interrupted. there is a diff...
[04:14] <fusionxtc> oldude67: screwed up meaning my apps didnt start up like avant
[04:14] <Ali_nz> has anyone here encountered Ubunutu locking up? as in not even mouse works?
[04:14] <woodworker> switch10_:  I am currently opening the gui
[04:15] <fusionxtc> oldude67: ohhh i didnt know that
[04:15] <m0r0n> Anyone want to help me figure out Pastebin
[04:15] <oldude67> fusionxtc, open terminal and type in sudo aptitude update
[04:15] <m0r0n> After I upload it gives me no link (Screenshot one)
[04:15] <UbuTheUbi> i think the deletes working its just blinking
[04:15] <holli> m0r0n: you copy and paste the link in the address bar
[04:15] <shane2peru> ok, dose anyone here have extremely slow sata issues, and does anyone know of a fix?
[04:15] <jussi01> !info flashplugin-installer | holli
[04:15] <UbuTheUbi> it was  alot of files
[04:15] <woodworker> phishie:  so typing gparted in terminal window would open the gparted gui?
[04:15] <m0r0n> holli: I recieve no link
[04:15] <oldude67> fusionxtc, then type in sudo aptitude safe-upgrade again
[04:15] <phishie> woodworker: in gparted, on the top right corner is a dropdown list, you should be able to find your usb device, look at the size
[04:16] <UbuTheUbi> how long should it take to delete 40 + gb of small files
[04:16] <Ali_nz> has anyone here encountered Ubunutu locking up? as in not even mouse works? is there a log I can look at to try and see why?
[04:16] <oldude67> fusionxtc, when you lose internet it can mess alot up when making updates
[04:16] <holli> m0r0n: it doesn't give you a link you copy and paste it out of the address bar of your browser
[04:16] <phishie> woodworker: yes you gotta be root though, type sudo gparted instead
[04:16] <woodworker> phishie: Yea is is sda2
[04:16] <lasehopesinyouu> im trying to get my keyboard to work with the volume, it was working until i restarted. How should i go about syncing the two so it controls the volume
[04:16] <shane2peru> I have been running rsync all day long to sync 156Gb of data to my external hdd, is that excessive, I mean literally all day long 8+ hours
[04:16] <fusionxtc> oldude67: yes so it seems
[04:16] <m0r0n> holli: It doesn't redirect me anywhere
[04:16] <m0r0n> It goes back to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[04:17] <linuxuser600> Ali_nz: I have when full desktop effects and wine and virtual box is running at the same time
[04:17] <woodworker> phishie:  ok I am there...... it only shows usb as 4.23 gb when it is an 8gb though
[04:17] <fusionxtc> oldude67: right now it looks like it is now install updates
[04:17] <lasehopesinyouu> anybody have an idea?
[04:17] <holli> m0r0n: use dpaste.com
[04:17] <oldude67> fusionxtc, good let it go
[04:17] <ctmjr> m0r0n, did ypu type in your name in the from box?
[04:17] <dp924> ubutheubi: it will take a few minutes to delete 40 gb
[04:17] <oldude67> fusionxtc, no harm no fowl
[04:17] <Ali_nz> linuxuser600: sounds like you ran outta resources?
[04:17] <UbuTheUbi> see i run this command 'sudo rm -r Ivory\ Items ' .. the folder in the desktop actually shows up as 'Ivory Items' but in terminal the closest i could find was '
[04:17] <fusionxtc> oldude67: hahah good ^__^
[04:18] <UbuTheUbi> was' ivory items'
[04:18] <lasehopesinyouu> FIXED
[04:18] <lasehopesinyouu> ubuntu = massive easy
[04:18] <UbuTheUbi> i mean 'Ivory\ items'
[04:18] <holli> jussi01: thanks, too bad the official documentation does not provide that
[04:18] <phishie> woodworker: hmm another thing you can check is the amount of space used on it just to make sure
[04:18] <shane2peru> ok, does anyone here have extremely slow sata issues, and does anyone know of a fix?
[04:18] <UbuTheUbi> why does it show up with the backslash
[04:18] <linuxuser600> Ali_nz: haha yeah, i was just saying thats the only time it happens
[04:18] <Ali_nz> there must be a system log of what it was doing when it froze?
[04:18] <UbuTheUbi> cool its gone
[04:18] <UbuTheUbi> dp924: Thanks
[04:18] <dp924> ubutheubi: '\ ' is a space in the terminal
[04:18] <UbuTheUbi> got ya.. appreciate it
[04:19] <dp924> no problem
[04:19] <m0r0n> dp924: Ya holli:I need to show a screen shot
[04:19] <navatwo> guys I need help, I currently have no panel or any other desktop objects
[04:19] <woodworker> phishie:  I am going to fomat on my windows based machine first then put back in and see what happens
[04:19] <navatwo> how do I reload them?
[04:19] <holli> m0r0n: shouldn't need to, ask someone to tell you the command-line equivelent of what you are doing
[04:19] <shane2peru> navatwo, press alt F2 and type, killall gnome-panel
[04:19] <holli> m0r0n: people will be able to assist you better with terminal output than a screen shot
[04:20] <oldude67> navatwo, what were you doing when that happened?
[04:20] <fusionxtc> oldude67: still doing updates, whats the est time for this just wondering?
[04:20] <shane2peru> navatwo, it should reload itself
[04:20] <phishie> woodworker: long as you know what you are doing =)
[04:20] <holli> m0r0n: whats the problem?
[04:20] <m0r0n> There is no output I'm not doing anything code related
[04:20] <navatwo> shane2peru: k
[04:20] <bobo> sstupid ut3 and no loki installer
[04:20] <oldude67> fusionxtc, depends on how long it was down before it got all of them it should show you.
[04:20] <m0r0n> GParted, I can't format anything, it's all grey
[04:20] <woodworker> phishie:  window= my friend compared to this ubuntu, but I am trying
[04:20] <holli> m0r0n: you must not understand, you can do absolutly everything for a command line
[04:20] <shane2peru> I have been running rsync all day long to sync 156Gb of data to my external hdd, is that excessive, I mean literally all day long 8+ hours
[04:20] <navatwo> its comming :) thanks shane2peru
[04:21] <shane2peru> navatwo, no prob
[04:21] <Plecebo> What messages should I look for in dmesg when a hard drive is failing?
[04:21] <navatwo> dang.. still missing my name + login stuff..
[04:21] <fusionxtc> oldude67: haha 23min as of right now
[04:21] <ctmjr> Ali_nz, look in /var/log  ker.log sys.log
[04:21] <phishie> woodworker: to me, ubuntu is much better woot!
[04:21] <m0r0n> holli: Partitoin - Unallocated  File System - Unallocated Size - 15.78GB Used -- Unused -- Flags
[04:21] <woodworker> phishie:  The unfamiliar is scary
[04:21] <holli> m0r0n: im guessing your trying to install ubuntu?
[04:21] <oldude67> fusionxtc, idk if you are on a dialup or a cable or what..so everything will very
[04:21] <Dreki> is anyone havving trouble connecting to keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[04:21] <Ali_nz> ctmjr: ta
[04:22] <m0r0n> holli: No, just re-format that flash drive
[04:22] <fusionxtc> oldude67: would you suggest me restarting after update is complete?  and would i have o restart using the startx command everytime?
[04:22] <holli> m0r0n: what file format?
[04:22] <fusionxtc> oldude67: haha it might as well be dial up its wireless dsl
[04:22] <m0r0n> FAT32
[04:22] <oldude67> fusionxtc, no it should boot normal and it will tell you if it should reboot but my guess is yes.
[04:23] <woodworker> phishie:  That is interesting gparted is recognizing a second partition on my hard drive, but didnt recognice the usb device
[04:23] <Brians> hey
[04:23] <holli> m0r0n: type sudo fdisk -l to find out the device name of the usb drive, it will look like: /dev/sdb1
[04:23] <lasehopesinyouu> anybody know how to get screens on top and bottom in compiz
[04:23] <m0r0n> holli: I may have got something to work, one sec
[04:23] <Brians> anyone have a good way to have kde and gnome both installed without the apps merging
[04:23] <phishie> woodworker: hmmm it could be that stick is goners...
[04:23] <oldude67> fusionxtc, when doing updates try to do them on a day or time that it wont get booted...or you will have lots of problems.
[04:23] <holli> m0r0n: then: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1    <----where /dev/sdb1 is your device name
[04:23] <holli> m0r0n: and your done
[04:23] <fusionxtc> oldude67: gotcha  thats for the info ^__^ im just hoping now everything will runn smooth, whats the difference with 9.04 anyway?
[04:24] <fusionxtc> oldude67: totaly noteded
[04:24] <woodworker> phishie:  I just bought it...... and had an istall of ubuntu on it alrealy
[04:24] <oldude67> fusionxtc, lots of new hardware and stability with it...and i m hoping next upgrade is even better.
[04:25] <fusionxtc> oldude67: very good, is firefox still kina unreliable and same with flash?
[04:25] <moymoy> Brians: the apps will always merge.. what you can do is open up alacarte to edit your menus .. but otherwise, you can try installing on another partition or on a virtual machine
[04:25] <phishie> woodworker: hmmm if gparted can't recognize it, then I cannot be of more help. And I am very unfamiliar with fdisk command.
[04:25] <m0r0n> holli: Contains a mounted file system
[04:25] <phishie> woodworker: try plugging it out and back in and run gparted?
[04:26] <holli> m0r0n: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[04:26] <holli> m0r0n: again, replace /dev/sdb1 with whatever your usb drive is
[04:26] <woodworker> phishie:  I am trying that - it is recognized in my places
[04:26] <oldude67> fusionxtc, ff is doing good...flash is set...just load it like it says and should be good...but im an opera fan so...
[04:26] <m0r0n> holli: Command not found
[04:26] <holli> m0r0n: you spelled it wrong, tab completion is your friend
[04:27] <fusionxtc> oldude67: i liked opera too, but its hard from me to convert when i was used to ff for soo long
[04:27] <holli> m0r0n: is umount NOT unmount
[04:27] <m0r0n> Woops, I put unmount
[04:27] <phishie> lol
[04:28] <m0r0n> holli: mkfs.vfat: Device partition expected, not making filesystem on entire device '/d
[04:28] <oldude67> ok one and all im out have fun and good luck...happy hunting...and m$ sucks...have a nice day...:D
[04:28] <Dreki> fusionxtc: oldude: i could never get used to another browser... firefox has it all..
[04:28] <m0r0n> ev/sdg' (use -I to override)
[04:28] <m0r0n> 
[04:29] <holli> holli: you have to specify a number e.g.: /dev/sdb <-- the usb drive, /dev/sdb1 <--- a partition on the usb drive
[04:29] <holli> holli: you have to specify a partition
[04:29] <Daps> I have Samba installed, any ideas why I can't open the shared folders on my windows machine over the network??
[04:30] <phishie> woodworker: i can't figure out how else to help....
[04:30] <woodworker> phishie:  well it just locked up on me as it was scanning the device, so I am rebooting and trying again
[04:31] <phishie> woodworker: let's hope that helps
[04:31] <m0r0n> holli: Thank you very much
[04:31] <woodworker> phishie:  no kidding I am heading into hour 11 here with this system...... getting fustrated
[04:31] <holli> m0r0n: no problem
[04:32] <fusionxtc> oldude67: thank you for your help
[04:32] <m0r0n> I know this is illegal, but breaking DRM on videos, can anyone nudge me towards how to do so?
[04:33] <Ali_nz> ctmjr: I got a syslog but not sys.log???
[04:33] <phishie> woodworker: wait a minute, you have windows running, you could try formatting that stick with it
[04:33] <woodworker> phishie: already did that
[04:33] <holli> m0r0n: if you are having trouble playing some media, you likely just lack codecs
[04:33] <holli> m0r0n: i recommend vlc because it comes with all the codecs you could ever need
[04:33] <woodworker> phishie:  just now, do I not need to run gparted after doing that?
[04:33] <holli> !vlc | m0r0n
[04:33] <Ali_nz> ctmjr: and I have a kern.log and a kern.log.0 ??
[04:34] <m0r0n> holli: VLC say's it's DRM encoded
[04:34] <phishie> woodworker: wind0ze prolly broke it =S try it again? because i did that before and it worked
[04:34] <woodworker> phishie:  well it just showed up on my desktop in ubuntu
[04:35] <m0r0n> holli: Actually, nevermind, it's a wmv and it's like bright coloured pixles all over the screen
[04:35] <ctmjr> Ali_nz, well look in them and see if they have the info you need
[04:35] <Ali_nz> ctmjr: will try - they are big files!!
[04:35] <phishie> woodworker: nice
[04:36] <woodworker> phishie:  I know right baby steps
[04:36] <ctmjr> Ali_nz, should be close to the bottom
[04:36] <Ali_nz> yer they are
[04:36] <phishie> woodworker: sorry but i gotta ask, but what was it that you wanted to do again?
[04:36] <Plecebo> What messages should I look for in dmesg when a hard drive is failing?
[04:37] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: DRM?
[04:37] <m0r0n> CoJaBo-Aztec: Just the fact that it's a wmv
[04:37] <m0r0n> I think that's screwing me over, what's a good converter?
[04:37] <Plecebo> or could someone take a look at this dmesg output and tell me if they can see why my had drive keeps dropping out of my raid array: http://pastebin.com/m4273cedd
[04:38] <woodworker> phishie:  Install a usb boot.....persistent...... so I can host a moodle site, but I am using my wifes laptop therefore she doesnt want me to instal on harddrive, the goal is to host a moodle site with this when I boot from usb drive - it is a college project..... only need available when I want
[04:38] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: Colored mess tends to mean its DRM.
[04:38] <m0r0n> CoJaBo-Aztec:  Oh, in that case, what should I do?
[04:39] <woodworker> phishie:  Ok...... I got it in gparted...... It is showing 7.11gb fat32...... do I need to do anything 2 other partitions of 376mb
[04:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: Demand a DRM-free version.
[04:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: Where did you get the video?
[04:39] <m0r0n> isohunt
[04:41] <phishie> woodworker: i gotta say i have no knowledge of a persistent usb boot, was never successful anyway. You may need 2 partitions in that usb drive though. read up how to do the persistent boot first before you start formatting...
[04:42] <woodworker> phishie:  seems to me the 9.04 has the usb creator built in and shold work as long as you create enough extra space
[04:42] <phishie> woodworker: yeap but that would be non persistent if you runt that as itself, if that hasn't changed.
[04:43] <phishie> woodworker: runt/run*
[04:43] <jussi01> !usb
[04:44] <woodworker> phishie:  it shows in the creator..... I just crated 6.3gb of extra space for storing of documents and settings:=/ that is what it said..... whether it works I dont know
[04:44] <phishie> oh thanks jussi01!
[04:44] <phishie> woodworker: try following the link ubottu gave above. that should work
[04:44] <ctmjr> m0r0n, alot of vids downloaded from torrent sites are junk files never meant to play just waste your bandwidth and time
[04:44] <m0r0n> Fun fun fun.
[04:45] <phishie> woodworker: of course follow the persistent version though
[04:45] <yijun> could anyone tell me sabayon user default password
[04:46] <woodworker> phishie:  yea it says it should be persistent
[04:46] <phishie> woodworker: sounds great
[04:48] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: Yeah, its a virus.
[04:49] <m0r0n> CoJaBo-Aztec: A virus from isohunt? Hmph. Are you sure? Nothing on Windows nor Ubuntu has been affected
[04:49] <TTxT> hi
[04:49] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: 99% sure. It relies on the fact that MS-DRM service allows them to open a page in IE.
[04:49] <mistergibson> I lost my desktop sound effects, anyone else run into this?
[04:50] <nsadmin> is there a better way than "sudo bash"?
[04:50] <TTxT> does anybody know what architecture should I use for a AMD Sempron 2500+ with apt-build?
[04:51] <inruin> Hi everyone!
[04:51] <phishie> hi
[04:51] <inruin> im new to ubuntu and the linux os
[04:51] <inruin> I have read a bit on th gnu lic
[04:51] <linuxuser600> inruin: welcome to linux
[04:51] <nsadmin> I'm telling someone they need to get logged in as postgres
[04:51] <inruin> and the freeware movement
[04:52] <phishie> uh huh
[04:52] <Void> hola mongolitos
[04:52] <fusionxtc> so if anyone was reading before
[04:52] <inruin> thanx is that a bit?
[04:52] <inruin> er a bot?
[04:52] <m0r0n> My printer keep getting a print command, but I never sent one
[04:52] <CoJaBo-Aztec> m0r0n: Most of them are just the same clip with a wide variety of names uploaded to tons of torrent sites, and most of them install at least Seekmo.
[04:52] <fusionxtc> i did the update to fix how it was booting up
[04:52] <nsadmin> bitbot!
[04:52] <inruin> haha
[04:52] <fusionxtc> i now just re-entered ubuntu using the startx command
[04:52] <TTxT> does anybody know what architecture should I use for a AMD Sempron 2500+ with apt-build?
[04:52] <nsadmin> now THERE is a name for a bot!
[04:53] <fusionxtc> how do i get the computer so that i do not need to use the startx comman
[04:53] <linuxuser600> inruin: im a persom
[04:53] <inruin> so i booted ubuntu from my usb and the partition sizing went wrong
[04:53] <inruin> oh sorry
[04:53] <inruin>  there
[04:53] <inruin> hi
[04:53] <m0r0n> CoJaBo-Aztec: I never got a virus from isohunt this is a first. I guess they are slacking on security now
[04:53] <linuxuser600>  inruin: hi
[04:53] <bobtt> hi i installed winxp and ubuntu and i tried downloading a file and it says my disc is full
[04:53] <inruin> HI! hehe
[04:53] <nsadmin> fusionxtc: you don't have to use X... you could stay at the command line
[04:54] <bobtt> how can i check my partitions?
[04:54] <phishie> fusionxtc: a quick guess would be set the runlevel to 3?
[04:54] <fusionxtc> oh,
[04:54] <inruin> I have the SAME QUESTION AS BOBTT
[04:54] <inruin> sorry for the caps
[04:54] <fusionxtc>  phishie: what do u mean runlevel to 3?
[04:55] <nsadmin> are the ubuntu runlevels different?
[04:55] <[R]> bobtt inruin: df
[04:55] <fusionxtc> phishie: what do u mean runlevels (newbie here)
[04:55] <inruin> im newb whatis df?
[04:55] <[R]> inruin: if you dont know waht a program is, you should read it's man page
[04:55] <fusionxtc> phishie: using the start command it tries to boot up now but it just stays at a blank screen
[04:56] <fusionxtc> phishie: it worked before.. :/
[04:56] <inruin> ok I just had a question about partitioning
[04:56] <phishie> fusionxtc: for runlevels info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel.
[04:56] <rudi_> use gparted
[04:56] <phishie> fusionxtc: you just ran the startx command?
[04:57] <bobtt> have i incorrectly installed ubuntu?
[04:57] <Neros> Hey... Anyone here able to help me get my tethering to work?
[04:57] <fusionxtc> yes and now it tries to boot up but just shows a blank screen
[04:57] <Joe_> to enable CUDA on the GTX 260 I have to use the 185 drivers?
[04:57] <inruin> ok thanx rudi
[04:58] <phishie> fusionxtc: you may have changed the xorg config by any chance?
[04:58] <Joe_> tus10nxtc what's the problem?
[04:58] <rudi_> no problem
[04:58] <Joe_>  fusionxt: using two GPUs by chance?
[04:59] <binarymutant> what's the channel for Ubuntu One?
[04:59] <karatekickz>  I installed swiftfox but it fails to start shows up in the tray and hangs can anyone help my firefox and shiretoko both work fine can anyone help?
[04:59] <fusionxtc> phishie: not that i know of, all i tried doing was updating the systems when my internet connection got interrupted and the install failed
[04:59] <fusionxtc> phishie: ever since then i havnt been able to boot correctly or at all
[05:00] <bobtt> i cant install gparted theres not enough space lol
[05:00] <bobtt> how can i fix the problem?
[05:00] <phishie> fusionxtc: try booting ubuntu into recovery mode and 'try fixing' the xorg config from there. not sure if it will work, but that's the easiest i could think of no
[05:00] <phishie> now*
[05:01] <mook_> ello people
[05:01] <Neros> bobtt whats going on?
[05:01] <phishie> ello mook
[05:01] <fusionxtc> phishie: thats what the guy before kinda wanted me to do
[05:01] <Neros> I think I may know whats up
[05:01] <mook_> um kinda needin help or a miracle one you choose
[05:01] <Joe_>  fusionxt: I had a problem like that (boots to a blank screen), I use two GPUs and found in Xorg.0.log it couldn't determine which was the primary card, just putting the busid in xorg.conf fixed it for me
[05:01] <owen1>  I have 'exec wbar & awesome' in .xinitrc.  i only see the wbar app in one of the monitors. how to make it show on the other as well. (i have X in each).
[05:01] <bobtt> neros i installed winxp then ubuntu, let it manage the partitions and i think it might have messed up
[05:01] <Neros> oh
[05:02] <bobtt> it's apparently already run out of space
[05:02] <fusionxtc> phishie: then using the start command i was able to access ubuntu then i ran sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and then restarted the computer
[05:02] <Tarantulafudge> Hey guys I'm having an issue. My executable file is in the same directory, but when I do ./server_linux it says No such file or directory...
[05:02] <mook_> bob thats the way i did it but im runing the nvidia 7300 gt
[05:02] <fusionxtc> phishie: the guy left that was helping me and when rebooting it didnt fix the problem
[05:02] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: what does 'ldd' say about the binary?
[05:02] <Joe_> Taran... chmod +x server_linux
[05:03] <fusionxtc> phishie: i just tried the fsck task in recovery mode
[05:03] <bobtt> is there anything i can do to fix it?
[05:03] <phishie> fusionxtc: i'm afraid i can't think of anything to help but Joe_ might be able to help you on this if you have 2 GPUs
[05:03] <Tarantulafudge> [R]: it just says "not a dynamic executable"
[05:03] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: what does 'file' say about it?
[05:03] <scribe05> printing problem here. I can't print and my printers are not showing up in printer lists in such things as open office.  I try to print there and I only have generic printer listed.  Just this morning it was different
[05:03] <Neros> anyone here a pppd god? Thing is I'm tethering my BlackBerry storm over bluetooth... I got the chat files and stuff off the ubuntu wiki and now when I do sudo pon verizon the phone connects but no network access but on the device it says Modem Mode Enabled. sudo poff causes it to go off...
[05:03] <Tarantulafudge> [R]: server_linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[05:04] <fusionxtc> phishie: im using vista on this computer right now
[05:04] <Tarantulafudge> [R]: I can read the file fine, I just can't run it
[05:04] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: read it?
[05:04] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: its a binary...
[05:04] <Tarantulafudge> like with vim and cat
[05:04] <nw-b> hello, is it possible to connect a NAS HDD trough ethernet port at the same time I am accessing internet wirelessly?
[05:04] <Tarantulafudge> I can see that its there, and the data
[05:04] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: and uname -a?
[05:05] <mook_> how do i save my xconfig in a terinal ?
[05:05] <Tarantulafudge> Linux u15354299 2.6.27.25-20090615a #1 SMP Mon Jun 15 08:04:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:05] <Tarantulafudge> could the 64bit be the problem?
[05:05] <phishie> fusionxtc: hmmm... I'm out of ideas.... *shrugs* im so sorry....
[05:05] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: do you have 386 glibc installed?
[05:06] <cwek_imoetzzz> cwe_fine
[05:06] <fusionxtc> phishie:sorry got disconnect
[05:06] <Tarantulafudge> [R]: I don't know, this is a fresh install of 8.04
[05:06] <fusionxtc> phishie: how would i switch a runlevel if that is the problem at hand?
[05:07] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: sounds like you probably don't
[05:07] <Neros> so anyone here got dialup working in ubuntu :P mine connects but all my applications dont think theres a net connection
[05:07] <Tarantulafudge> [R]: so what should I do
[05:07] <phishie> fusionxtc: no that shouldn't be the problem, and i do realize that i can't do much to help you... i'm so sorry
[05:07] <Tarantulafudge> install glibc386?
[05:08] <fusionxtc> phishie: thanks for try ^__^
[05:08] <[R]> Tarantulafudge: that might be a start
[05:08] <Ali_nz> i can swap a ubunutu hdd into a new pc and boot without reloading right?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Ali_nz:  ive had mixxed succes with doing that.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Ali_nz:  issues may be the video card and perhaps sound card.
[05:09] <phishie> fusionxtc: i try to help, but i'm no pro lol. i'm sure someone in here has the solution
[05:09] <nw-b> anyone knows how to make the ethernet port work on an offline LAN network, while accessing internet wirelessly?
[05:10] <nsadmin> be careful... the ubunutu tribe does not like ubuntu... if you see a spear coming at you, duck!
[05:10] <mazda01> ok, im back. i have been up and down the darn wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP) and i can not get phpmyadmin to work for the life of me. please help
[05:10] <Neros> I'm tethering my BlackBerry storm over bluetooth... I got the chat files and stuff off the ubuntu wiki and now when I do sudo pon verizon the phone connects but no network access but on the device it says Modem Mode Enabled. sudo poff causes it to go off...
[05:10] <woodworker> soreau:  I got this stuff working....
[05:10] <Ali_nz> Dr_Willis: yer well it aint workng so i think your right
[05:10] <fusionxtc> i just dont know who would help me out, i feel like im being anoying but i cant find anything outthere
[05:11] <soreau> woodworker: Cool
[05:11] <Tarantulafudge> [R]: I found a package for teamspeak instead
[05:11] <SnakDoc> mazda01 you saying http://localhost/phpmyadmin doesn't work ?
[05:12] <moymoy> i mounted an sftp server on Gnome and it displays an icon on my Desktop .. but where does the sftp server actually mount to?
[05:12] <woodworker> soreau:  reformat .... reinstall... download b43 package and add network!!  we are in business thanks for the help
[05:12] <nw-b> usser, hello, I received help from you a couple of days ago on how to make a lan network between two computers using an ethernet port and a router, I dont know if you remeber me
[05:12] <woodworker> phishie:  thanks for the help too
[05:12] <[R]> moymoy: ~/.gvfs
[05:12] <cwek_imoetzzz> hi
[05:12] <usser> nw-b, yea i remember something like that
[05:12] <mazda01> SnakDoc, correct. I am getting a weird popup about me saving or opening a phtml file. and yes, I have installed the libapache2-mod-php5 package and ran sudo a2enmod php5 and restarted apache2. any other thoughts?
[05:12] <SnakDoc> moymoy mount should either be /media or /mnt
[05:13] <hellis22>  /msg nickserv identify Gr3/-\tZ
[05:13] <phishie> woodworker: np at all, i just hope i didn't waste your time
[05:13] <moymoy> [R]: i thought that was only for smb mounted shares.. ls'd ~/.gvfs but it was empty =\
[05:13] <Neros> helliss22 lol
[05:13] <LordLandon> hellis22: you should change that now, probably
[05:13] <fusionxtc> JOE_ : could you help me out with this boot problem?
[05:13] <root> 98
[05:13] <[R]> moymoy: its for evfertyhting virtual gnome mounts... and its not mounted if its empty
[05:13] <woodworker> phishie:  nope it is all a learning experience, and this certainly has been one of those
[05:13] <SnakDoc> mazda01 give me a min see what i can find for you took most my ideas away
[05:14] <Neros> Anyone here good with pppd?
[05:14] <Neros> I cant get it working right in 9.04
[05:14] <mazda01> SnakDoc, i know. I have been trying to solve this for the last 6 hours. reinstalling packages etc etc.
[05:14] <phishie> woodworker: ^^
[05:14] <Joe_> fusionxt: Do you use multiple graphics cards?
[05:14] <nw-b> usser, the thing is that now, I need to reconfigure it just to work with a NAS HDD via a offline router. Do you think you can help me? if you have time, I will give more details on pastebin
[05:14] <fusionxtc> the computer is a laptop so im affraid not
[05:14] <pooter> Potter
[05:15] <usser> nw-b, whats an offline router?
[05:15] <moymoy> [R]: it's mounted.. i can access the files and perform tasks.. but the directories are empty?
[05:15] <moymoy> [R]: the .gvfs directory i mean
[05:15] <nsadmin> a router that's on standby? not active? not passing traffic?
[05:15] <nw-b> usser, I have a wireless router, but I do not have an ethernet port with internet connection. I only receive internet via wireless
[05:15] <mazda01> SnakDoc, nevermind. i just needed to clear firefox's cache. it's working. sorry
[05:16] <nw-b> usser, that is what I mean with an offline router
[05:16] <fusionxtc>  Joe_ : the computer is a laptop so im affraid not
[05:16] <usser> nw-b, right and your pc is sharing the wireless connection to the rest of the devices right?
[05:16] <Joe_> fusionxt: hmm, can you get to a command prompt?
[05:16] <SnakDoc> mazda01 lol i just had something i was going to get you to try :P
[05:16] <nw-b> usser, yea
[05:16] <[R]> moymoy: and you're sure you are doing the ls as the correct user?
[05:16] <SnakDoc> mazda01 glade to see its working
[05:16] <usser> nw-b, whats up with the NAS then, is it on the same wired network the rest of the devices are?
[05:17] <fusionxtc> Joe_ : when i boot the computer it goes to a DOS looking screen, i can input commands like if it were terminal
[05:17] <nw-b> usser, yeah
[05:17] <mazda01> SnakDoc, yeah me too. i was racking my brain. now I am trying to clean up a music library that spans 2 drives but there's duplicates. i am using fslint. have you ever used it?
[05:17] <usser> nw-b, but you cant access it?
[05:17] <Joe_> fusionxt: ok, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if any errors show in there (EE)
[05:17] <nw-b> usser, do not know how to configure it
[05:17] <usser> nw-b, the way i remember it you had to give everything a static ip, we set it up with 192.168.0.0 right
[05:17] <soreau> woodworker: no problem, glad you got it working
[05:18] <SnakDoc> mazda01 no sure haven't was looking for something to do that :P lol just never got around to it
[05:18] <nw-b> usser, well, it was 192.168.0.1
[05:18] <usser> nw-b, those kinds of devices usually have a setup page, that you can access through you browser
[05:18] <fusionxtc> how do i look at it tho, just using the command prompt itself?
[05:18] <nw-b> and 192.168.0.100 for windows
[05:18] <nw-b> usser, and 192.168.0.100 for windows
[05:19] <usser> nw-b, im assuming NAS wants to receive the ip automatically but it cant or gets from your router, the router gives out ips from 192.168.1.1 subnet
[05:19] <fusionxtc> Joe_ : how do i look at it tho, just using the command prompt itself?
[05:19] <Joe_> fusionxt: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[05:19] <usser> nw-b, you can either give the NAS the static ip or change your router settings to give out ip from 192.168.0.0 range
[05:19] <Joe_> fusionxt: that should spit out any lines that have an error in them
[05:20] <fusionxtc> Joe_ : when i put it into the line for the code it said permission denied
[05:20] <Joe_> fusionxt: put sudo in front of it (will ask for password)
[05:20] <nw-b> usser, I setup my NAS drive to work on 192.168.2.4 on port 24
[05:20] <usser> nw-b, what i'd is temporarily disable the static ip on your windows box, see what ip router gives it, then if its 192.168.1.something go to your routers web page, usually 192.168.1.1 and change the ip range that it gives out
[05:20] <fusionxtc> Joe_ : ohhhhh
[05:20] <usser> nw-b, NAS should be on the same subnet ie, 192.168.0.0
[05:21] <usser> nw-b, if you can somehow change 192.168.2.4 on the router to 192.168.0.something you should be set
[05:21] <nw-b> usser, ok, I think I can make it happen
[05:21] <nw-b> then I can access the drive via web browser?
[05:21] <nw-b> usser, then I can access the drive via web browser?
[05:22] <moymoy> [R]: i'm doing ls as root on for the .gvfs directory on all the home folders
[05:23] <nw-b> usser, I used to access the drive via Network connections, Windows Network, etc etc etc
[05:23] <usser> nw-b, no, if you give it ip from 192.168.0.0 range it should work as before, what im saying NAS's routers etc all have some sort of config page that you can access from a browser
[05:23] <fusionxtc> doesnt seem to be working
[05:23] <[R]> moymoy: only the user that owns the directory can ls it
[05:24] <fusionxtc> sudo /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:24] <fusionxtc> Joe_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:25] <fusionxtc> Joe_: sudo /var/log/Xorg.0.olg     correct?
[05:25] <fusionxtc> Joe_: log^^
[05:25] <mazda01> anyone know how to use fslint to remove all duplicate across 2 folder locations but keep a copy from one of the folders?
[05:25] <Joe_> fusionxt: cat /vat...
[05:25] <nw-b> usser, ok, I see
[05:25] <SETKEH> usser: Not all NAS drive have a config page acessable through a router I have a buffalo linkstation and u have to install there software to manage it not use a browser
[05:25] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  cat/vat what is that?
[05:25] <nw-b> usser, I am going to try, if I get problems, can I bother you again?
[05:26] <Joe_> fusionxt: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:26] <Joe_> fusionxt: cat is a command to display what is in the file
[05:26] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  ohhhhhhhhhh :P sorry
[05:26] <richardcavell> cat concatenates - joins together other files
[05:26] <shaullx> anyone have a script that displayes my sys info for xchat?
[05:26] <sagredo> yo yo yo what up greets all. I used the command umount /media/mydrivename and now when I plug the usb in/out the icon of the extenal HD does not show up. How can I get that to show up again?
[05:27] <richardcavell> sagredo: Plug it in and type mount /media/mydrivename
[05:27] <richardcavell> actually, sudo
[05:27] <richardcavell> sudo mount /media/mydrivename
[05:27] <sagredo> mount: can't find /media/culp in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:28] <sagredo> sudo mount /deb/sdb1
[05:28] <sagredo> mount: can't find /deb/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:28] <sagredo> sagredo@ashtop:~$
[05:28] <richardcavell> sagredo: is it plugged in
[05:28] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  sudo cat/var/log/Xorg.0.log    no such directory ?
[05:28] <sagredo> richardcavell: it is plugged in and on
[05:28] <Joe_> space between cat and /
[05:28] <richardcavell> sagredo: might need to mount it properly again
[05:28] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  yea i did
[05:28] <sagredo> richardcavell: how
[05:28] <Joe_> fusionxt: it will probably be long, but at the bottom there should be an error (if not use cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | more)
[05:29] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  ohhh wait
[05:29] <shaullx> anyone have a script that displayes my sys info for xchat?
[05:29] <richardcavell> ie mount /dev/sdb /media/mydrivename
[05:29] <mazda01> fusionxtc, it should be; sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log. you're missing a space between cat and /var/
[05:29] <richardcavell> replace sdb by whatever your drive device name is
[05:29] <mazda01> shaullx, which system info do you want to know?
[05:29] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  lol mazda01 got it
[05:29] <mazda01> anyone know how to use fslint to remove all duplicate across 2 folder locations but keep a copy from one of the folders?
[05:29] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  yes it ran thrrough the log
[05:30] <shaullx> cpu gpu hdd uptime stuff like that
[05:30] <fusionxtc> mazda01: lol thanks i just figured it out im an idiot
[05:30] <Phrogz> Running postfix on ubuntu I get "501 5.1.3 Bad recipient address syntax" for "RCPT TO: !@phrogz.net". Anyone know what config option I need to change to allow ! as an alias?
[05:30] <Joe_> fusionxt: was there any errors in there?  normally they start with (EE)
[05:31] <fusionxtc> i see (II) (--) (**) i do not see any (EE)
[05:31] <shaullx> mazda01 u have any?
[05:31] <fusionxtc> unless i can scroll up
[05:31] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  unless i can scroll upwards to see all the log
[05:31] <sagredo> can someone tell me the command
[05:31] <mazda01> shaullx, not really. i am asking what kind of info are you curious about?
[05:31] <mazda01> anyone know how to use fslint to remove all duplicate across 2 folder locations but keep a copy from one of the folders?
[05:32] <Mikey^> fusionxtc,  cat /var/log/Xorg.0/log | grep (EE)
[05:32] <moymoy> sagredo: i'm gonna pm you
[05:32] <sagredo> in order to see what linux is doing when I cycle the connection an external usb hard drive
[05:32] <shaullx> mazda01 i told u cpu gpu hdd uptime stuff like that
[05:32] <sagredo> moymoy: sounds good
[05:32] <Joe_> fusionxt: put | more after the command
[05:32] <Mikey^> fusionxtc,  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)
[05:32] <fusionxtc> was that key?
[05:33] <fusionxtc> whats that key?
[05:33] <Mikey^> just run that
[05:33] <shaullx> so anyone have a sys info script for xchat?
[05:33] <Neros> I'm tethering my BlackBerry storm over bluetooth... I got the chat files and stuff off the ubuntu wiki and now when I do sudo pon verizon the phone connects but no network access but on the device it says Modem Mode Enabled. sudo poff causes it to go off...
[05:33] <mazda01> shaullx, no sorry. I know how to retrieve it all seperatly I think.
[05:34] <Neros> I'm tethering my BlackBerry storm over bluetooth... I got the chat files and stuff off the ubuntu wiki and now when I do sudo pon verizon the phone connects but no network access but on the device it says Modem Mode Enabled. sudo poff causes it to go off...
[05:34] <fusionxtc> Joe_:  syntax error near unexpected token ('
[05:34] <Joe_> fusionxt: try this, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then do "pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log" if it works should give you a URL, type that here (will put that log file on the internet so we can see it)
[05:34] <gabe>  I'm trying to get help with vnc server. I've got it installed and ready to receive incoming connections, I've disabled the firewall in my PC and router and I still can't connect to the desktop computer. However, I can connect from the desktop to my lapton and both are in the same network. What's going on?
[05:35] <cah_batang> putri
[05:35] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, why wont you try what I said
[05:35] <shaullx> it would've been alot easier with mirc >>
[05:35] <Mikey^> that will get you only the errors in the xorg log file
[05:35] <cah_batang> puri
[05:35] <cah_batang> g
[05:35] <cah_batang> g
[05:35] <cah_batang> g
[05:35] <FloodBot3> cah_batang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: i did try but it said here was a syntax error
[05:36] <fusionxtc> and the pastebinit command didnt work
[05:36] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, cat Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[05:36] <cah> putri
[05:36] <gabe>  I'm trying to get help with vnc server. I've got it installed and ready to receive incoming connections, I've disabled the firewall in my PC and router and I still can't connect to the desktop computer. However, I can connect from the desktop to my lapton and both are in the same network. What's going on?
[05:36] <mazda01> gabe, have you forwarded the correct port in your router to the internal ip of the comuter you have the vncserver running on?
[05:36] <Mikey^> that should work
[05:38] <gabe> I haven't modified IP addresses... I only disabled the firewall on my desktop and the router. I can connect from desktop to laptop but not from laptop to desktop
[05:38] <anesthesia> Aww man...the harry potter movie (came out tonight) was already leaked at http://unitedworldcharity.org/Harry ...why must people ruin it?
[05:38] <fusionxtc> k give me a sec
[05:38] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: it tells me there is no such file or directory
[05:39] <Mikey^> get into /var/log
[05:39] <fusionxtc> ok
[05:39] <fusionxtc> it just says that its a directory
[05:40] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[05:40] <fusionxtc> what the hell is that thing in front of grep and after .log
[05:40] <gabe> I haven't modified IP addresses... I only disabled the firewall on my desktop and the router. I can connect from desktop to laptop but not from laptop to desktop
[05:40] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, just copy and paste it in your termina
[05:41] <Mikey^> terminal*
[05:41] <bullgard4> [Irssi] '/connect irc.gimp.org' obtains: "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.gimp.org port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address:192.168.178.10]" although ~/.irssi/config does not include the address 192.168.178.10. What is the reason?
[05:41] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, its the pipe,
[05:41] <noMaster> hello. how I can switch off GDM autorun. What file I should edit?
[05:41] <fusionxtc> i cant i can not access ubuntu, when my computer boots up it goes to a DOS looking screen
[05:41] <fusionxtc> im on another computer
[05:41] <Mikey^> noMaster, that is only possible if you are running ubuntu server edition
[05:42] <fusionxtc> as you type on this chat im typing into a terminal looking screen on my computer that does not work
[05:42] <Mikey^> I have tried it do it on ubuntu desktop edition but gdm just starts always.
[05:42] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, you can find that symbol along with \
[05:42] <fusionxtc> nothing starts on the computer
[05:42] <Mikey^> based on my keyboard layout
[05:42] <fusionxtc> oh
[05:43] <Mikey^> shift + \ = |
[05:43] <noMaster> I have installed Sugar Desktop Enviroment, and I need boot it from "Init 3". Is it possable?
[05:43] <Mikey^> but again thats based on your keyboard layout, just look for it on your keyboard
[05:43] <noMaster> I mean command line only
[05:43] <Mikey^> noMaster, no, gdm starts for all runlevels
[05:44] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: now it says failed to initialize GLX extension (compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:44] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, there you go, thats your problem
[05:44] <noMaster> :( but thanks anyway
[05:44] <Mikey^> noMaster, try the server edition if you really need it
[05:44] <Mikey^> or goole
[05:44] <dash_> im getting errors about compiling drivers with a different version of gcc tyhan i comiled the kernel with
[05:44] <Mikey^> google :)
[05:44] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: cools, ^_^ but how do i fix it when i cant access the computer
[05:44] <dash_> Linux version 2.6.28-13-generic (buildd@yellow) (gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) ) #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC 2009
[05:44] <dash_> gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4)
[05:45] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, what version of ubuntu are you using /
[05:45] <dash_> Driver "Realtek rtl8187" specified for installation.
[05:45] <dash_> Your current GCC version doesn't match the version your kernel was compiled with.
[05:45] <dash_> The build modules will probably not load into the running kernel.
[05:45] <fwaokda> I've edited my ID3 tag info in rythmbox for my albums but when I've loaded them up in my Zune player on my windowsxp in vbox they're not changed... anyone know why? is there a plugin for rythmbox that can fix this for me?
[05:46] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: i was using 8.10 and when trying to do the update to 9.04 all of this started to happen
[05:46] <lstarnes> dash_: what is the output of "gcc -v 2>&1 | grep version"?
[05:46] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, Oh
[05:46] <mazda01> anyone aware of how to get brasero from being the default action when I insert a blank cd-r? i have already checked nautilus preferences within media. everything still says, Ask what to do
[05:46] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, X was working fine on 8.10 ?
[05:46] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: this is because an interruption in my internet causing the computer not to install the update correctly
[05:46] <dash_> gcc version 4.3.3 (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4)
[05:46] <dash_> lstarnes ^^
[05:47] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, you can continue the update, just type sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:47] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: i had no problems what so ever intill trying to do this update
[05:47] <lstarnes> dash_: that looks like the right version of gcc
[05:48] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: yea the last guy trying to help me told me to do sudo aptitude safe-install
[05:48] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, did you do that?
[05:48] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: ok now its done
[05:48] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: but its still saying the X driver EE
[05:49] <fusionxtc> says 1 was not upgraded
[05:49] <raygn> trying to write a script that will pass a value to the passwd command
[05:49] <fusionxtc> Mikey^:says that 1 was not upgraded
[05:49] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, do you have an Xorg.conf file ?
[05:49] <Mikey^> check in /etc/X11/
[05:49] <safruhani> hi, i use 8.10, oftenly see a process called "phy0", what does it do?why it is processing oftenly?
[05:49] <mazda01> anyone aware of how to get brasero from being the default action when I insert a blank cd-r? i have already checked nautilus preferences within media. everything still says, Ask what to do
[05:49] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: i do not know what that is
[05:50] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, do ls /etc/X11/Xorg.cong
[05:50] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: it says it is a directory
[05:50] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: ok
[05:50] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, do ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <dash__> lstarnes i just got booted for some reason did you respond?
[05:50] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: says no such file
[05:50] <Mikey^> ok
[05:50] <baz> i am trying to allow myself and userB on my desktop to be able to read and write files and folders to my ~/Pictures folder. I set the ownership of ~/Pictures as baz:userB (user:group) but when userB copies files into it those perms aren't respected and locked from me. How do you go about setting this up properly in linux?
[05:51] <lstarnes> dash__: nothing after sayinf that you appear to have the right version of gcc
[05:51] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, do this aptitude search nvidia
[05:51] <dash_> right?!
[05:51] <dash_> what should i do
[05:51] <dash_> i tried just compiling the driver itself
[05:51] <dash_> i got the same errors as i did in that compilation
[05:51] <dash_> am i still in here?
[05:51] <FloodBot3> dash_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <dash_> i disconnected just now
[05:51] <quizme> ui/pygtk/python-gtk.sh: line 6: 12598 Segmentation fault      python "$IES4LINUX"/ui/pygtk/ies4linux-gtk.py  <--- what does this mean ?
[05:51] <^Einstein> I'm having a discussion in #bash with some folks about screen and its arguments. What's changed about the behavior of the -R option in the Debian upstream repositories? It seems screen -R 1 2 3 tries to execute 2 without even checking for another instance of screen.
[05:51] <quizme> should i update my python ?
[05:51] <Mikey^> what is shown near nvidia-glx, do you see i or p ?
[05:51] <quizme> trying to get IEs4Linux installed
[05:51] <bullgard4> [Irssi] '/connect irc.gimp.org' obtains: "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.gimp.org port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address:192.168.178.10]" although ~/.irssi/config does not include the address 192.168.178.10. What is the reason?
[05:52] <inruin> did rudi_ split?
[05:52] <safruhani> and also this process "phy0" spends more system resources than lots of others...
[05:52] <woodworker>  alright guys......... 9.04 used usb creator added 6.4 gb of space, changed some settings, and it isnt persistent......... all settings gone.... please help
[05:52] <fusionxtc> Mikey^: it doesnt show either just EE then the description
[05:53] <Mikey^> fusionxtc, let me pm you
[05:53] <fusionxtc> ok
[05:53] <baz> how do u give 2 users r/w access to a folder so that new files and folders created in it respect that access?
[05:53] <ajax_> I just got a new video card. Where can I find out if it is supported in the newest version of Ubuntu?
[05:53] <raygn> anyone now how to pass in a value to the passwd command
[05:54] <raygn> in other systems you can use --stdin but ubuntu does not have this option
[05:54] <talltomWA> is there a irc channel that would have information about how to get involved in development of ubuntu
[05:55] <Qrawl> Hello.  My Java stopped working .  How can I fix it
[05:55] <cattellar> is there a way to move up/down the menu's on gnome menu?
[05:55] <theonesym> hello
[05:56] <safruhani> cattellar: you can add these menus to the panel (which can move up/down)
[05:57] <safruhani> seperately
[05:57] <theonesym> nerve
[05:57] <SnakDoc> i had idea jw if anyone has tried something like this was wanting to have 2 flash drives pluged in and running software raid 1 but be able to umount it and take one with me and use it on other pcs
[05:57] <lwells> talltomWA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Channels
[05:57] <woodworker> ne one able to help.... have usb install of 9.04 and rebot lost all of my wireless settings?  obriously not persistent........ used usb creator
[05:57] <safruhani> cattellar: alt+f2 alacarte
[05:57] <cattellar> safruhani, but thats not what Im looking for ... i want for example move the Wine menu to the bottom
[05:57] <cattellar> safruhani, alacarte is not letting me move the menus
[05:57] <SnakDoc> was thinking maybe just sync ever hour in a cron job would be best
[05:58] <safruhani> cattellar: yes u are right, i don't how ...
[05:58] <naumi> hiii
[05:59] <safruhani> cattellar: there is an alphabetical order
[05:59] <cattellar> not really
[05:59] <cattellar> wine is on top
[06:00] <cattellar> as well as a new menu i created
[06:00] <zarakolik_> YARDIM!!!
[06:00] <zarakolik_> TÜRKÇE BİLEN BİRİ YOKMU!!
[06:00] <dash_> im missing sha.h htmac.h rc4.h aes.h...what should i get?
[06:01] <fwaokda> Can anyone tell me of a plugin to work with rhythmbox that will allow me to edit my id3tags of my music?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> !find sha.h
[06:01] <raygn> ok just did "apt-get upgrade passwd" and now the whole system is being upgraded
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> !find aes.h
[06:01] <dash_> anyone?
[06:02] <dash_> im missing sha.h htmac.h rc4.h aes.h...what should i get?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> dash_:  note the package listing the bot just gave to the 'find' commands...
[06:02] <inruin> thats a brain condition right ubottu?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> File sha.h found in libcameleon-ocaml-dev, libcrypto++-dev, libgloox-dev, libgnet-dev, libnettle-dev (and 11 others
[06:03] <woodworker> how do I make a usb install of 9.04 persistent
[06:03] <Qrawl> Hello.  My Java stopped working .  How can I fix it
[06:03] <inruin> will gparted work while on windows vista?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> woodworker:  i normally follow the guides at pendrivelinux.org - it works 'better' for me then the usb-creator tool does.
[06:04] <dash_> libcrypto! hurrah! my problems are solved! praise #ubuntu!
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> dash_:  i think the 'aptfile' command can also make that task easier
[06:04] <cattellar> Qrawl, go to #java
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> or was it apt-file?
[06:04] <raygn> Qrawl did stop in the system with GUI, browsers or both
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-file
[06:05] <Qrawl> raygn, it just stopped working . gui app
[06:05] <Qrawl> one day it was working , the next day no
[06:06] <Qrawl> raygn, I'll do more research on the web
[06:06] <raygn> have you tried a website that uses java to see if those work
[06:06] <Qrawl> like what
[06:06] <woodworker> Dr_Willis:  I have already done usb creator........ ne ideas how to get this to be persistent ... lost all my wireless setting in reboot
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> woodworker:  did it save OTHER settings?
[06:07] <raygn> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[06:07] <Rob235> hmm i thought i installed firefox 3.5 final but it still comes up as shiretoko, is that still a beta/
[06:07] <Qrawl> raygn, ty
[06:07] <raygn> np
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> woodworker:  and as i said. i have had much better luck with the directions on teh pendrivelinux page. ive notived the persistant stuff does not always work properly (for example with the nvidia drivers, it fails to make a proper xorg.conf for me)
[06:08] <micah> can anyone please tell me how to update my video and graphics card?
[06:08] <Qrawl> raygn, yes that works
[06:08] <woodworker> Dr_Willis:  I dont believe I changed anything else......... it idint save my update to the drivers for the wireless card
[06:08] <inruin> I need some help partitioning my vista so I have mor space for my ubuntu
[06:08] <lstarnes> Rob235: it's still firefox 3.5, but without the official branding
[06:08] <Rob235> ok
[06:08] <woodworker> Dr_Willis:  do you think it could just be a problem with the presistent in general or is there something I need to do?
[06:09] <Qrawl> raygn, I found a website that lists what to do.  I'll try that out
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> woodworker:  thats an issue i had. was that updated driver/configs did not get properly saved..  Try making some changes and see if it does save them.. ie: wallpaper, make some docs. so forth.
[06:09] <raygn> ok cool
[06:09] <inruin> I am not sure  installed ubuntu correctly it seems all the installs i try to load on it get directed to my usb flash drive
[06:09] <micah>  can anyone please tell me how to update my video and graphics card?
[06:10] <woodworker> Dr_Willis:  Damn that could be a pain in the butt
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> video AND graphics? :)
[06:10] <nsadmin> micah: turn the power off, pull the old card out, plug the new card in
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> woodworker:  no idea on the exact issues.. I DO know when i installed the nvidia drivers.. i had to tweak /etc/rc.local to   force the system to use the  proper xorg.conf
[06:10] <micah> no i dont have a card im look for an update i can download
[06:11] <micah> i dont have a nvidia driver
[06:11] <nsadmin> if you've never done this, be CAREFUL you don't damage the slot
[06:11] <inruin> help please
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> micah:  everyone is stareing at you  wondering what you are really asking.. please clarify what you are wanting todo exactly.
[06:11] <nsadmin> he wants nvidia driever
[06:11] <nsadmin> :)
[06:11] <inruin> get direct x
[06:11] <mazda01> inside System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media, the media tab is missing in jaunty. anyone please help
[06:12] <CHC>  apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[06:12] <micah> lol sorry im new to all this, my games run slow and are glitchy and apps randomly close and someone said i need to pdate my graphics card
[06:12] <CHC> what do you think i should do about this?
[06:12] <CHC> i installed tshark and this happend :/
[06:13] <micah> i have a..... VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[06:13] <fwaokda> anyone have slingplayer(slingbox) working under VirtualBox ???
[06:15] <woodworker> Dr_Willis:  do you think those tweeks are the same for a bcm driver?
[06:15] <micah> any? help?
[06:15] <raygn> any scripters here that could help
[06:16] <raygn> trying to pass a value to the passwd command from a script
[06:16] <Ali_nz> if i am reinstalling ubuntu to a disk that has a existing installation, is there anything special I need to do?
[06:16] <khelvan> Hello, I have a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000, and the logitech software for Windows allows me to do things like easily edit the white balance, color balance, add interesting effects such as sepia and black & white, and other fun features. Are there any webcam programs for Ubuntu (I'm on Jaunty) that do similar things, preferably with a GUI interface?
[06:16] <micah> Ali_nz you have to install it on a fresh disk
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> woodworker:  no idea  - i dont recall trying the presistant save usb on my laptops.   i just had one made yp for my desktop as a 'rescue' system
[06:17] <Ali_nz> micah: sure, but dont need to format the disk clean first?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> raygn:  you could use the 'expect' scripting tool for that..
[06:17] <Ali_nz> my install seems to be hanging just after where you pick english, then new install
[06:17] <raygn> is it command or gui
[06:17] <micah> Ali_nz i dont really know i asked the same question once and thats what someone told me
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> raygn:  other then that.. not sure. 'scripting  password command' on google  may have better suggestions
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> raygn:  expect is an OLD SKOOL scripting tool
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> !info expect
[06:18] <raygn> ok
[06:18] <sparr> How does Update Manager know when an update requires a reboot, and how can I see that information when doing "apt-get upgrade"?
[06:18] <raygn> this is the first passwd command I have seen that does not have a --stdin option
[06:18] <micah> any one here specialize on graphics cards?
[06:18] <baz> how do i share my pics folder with another user on the same ubuntu box?
[06:18] <raygn> for scripting it in a shell script
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> baz:  you could set the permissions/modes on the directory to  somthing less locked down. (i forget the exact #'s to use)
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> baz:  or make a public dir that all people can read/write to.
[06:19] <baz> Dr_Willis, i tried setting it to me as owner and my gf as group owner but when new files are added they dont respect those perms
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> baz:  shomthign ive rarely had to mess with.   mode 664 i think let other users access them.. Id have to double check
[06:20] <baz> Dr_Willis, so it works greats for existing files but if i copy a new file in there it gets the perms baz:baz rather than inherit from its parent baz:adriana
[06:21] <bullgard4> [Irssi] '/connect irc.gimp.org' obtains: "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.gimp.org port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address:192.168.178.10]" although ~/.irssi/config does not include the address 192.168.178.10. What is the reason?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> baz:  644 let me copy stuff from my wifes home dir to my own.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> baz:  to create a file you set the modes on the directory  to like 77? i think
[06:22] <miles_> Does anyone here know a lot about using WUBI?
[06:22] <miles_> I want to use EXT4 as the default filesystem.
[06:23] <LacobF> Why is Synaptic so jammed up whenever I reload?  It's just "Converting" for ages...
[06:23] <mazda01> inside System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media, the media tab is missing in jaunty. anyone please help
[06:23] <LacobF> Example: Convert: cdparanoia 3.10.2+debian-5
[06:23] <miles_> I have downloaded the daily cdimage for Karmic, and have tried to run WUBI.EXE from there.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> miles_:  i honestly reccomend using virtualbox instead of wubi.  I see dozens of people in here with wubi issues every week.. and basically.. not a lot of peopel  who use ubuntu and know stuff.. use it.. so its hard to get support on.
[06:24] <Flannel> miles_: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks.
[06:24] <mazda01> LacobF, have you tried to pick a server that's close to you instead of the default ubuntu server?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> miles_:  karmic support in #ubuntu+1 also.. and i would DEFINATLY test it in virtualbox.. not a real system
[06:24] <miles_> Thanks.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Am i the only one that *shudders* when a someone starts a question  with "Im using Wubi and......"
[06:25] <LacobF> mazda01: no, let me try that
[06:28] <Rob235> ugh, why doesnt firefox 3.5 remember anything? it doesnt ask to remember passwords and i guess isnt saving any cookies
[06:28] <jerbear> I have my root filesystem encrypted (done by the installer). Does anyone know of a location where I can put a keyfile to unlock it automatically? I realize the security risk. This is temporary.
[06:28] <The_Warlock> anybody installed e17 on jaunty?
[06:29] <fwaokda> I just installed amarok but now I want to get rid of it... I installed through the package manager but it also installed packages it needed... how can I uninstall those packages too?
[06:30] <eross> what's with all the security updates? I thought linux was secure
[06:31] <bullgard4> [Irssi] '/connect irc.gimp.org' obtains: "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.gimp.org port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address:192.168.178.10]" although ~/.irssi/config does not include the address 192.168.178.10. What is the reason?
[06:31] <jerbear> I have my root filesystem encrypted (done by the installer). Does anyone know of a location where I can put a keyfile to unlock it automatically? I realize the security risk. This is temporary.
[06:32] <bullgard4> eross: Linux is secure because of all the security updates.
[06:32] <Ratapoil> some piece f software makes my caps lock and numlock blink. it interferes with my wrting
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Ratapoil:  thats weird.. ive never heard of softare toggling the numlock./capslock
[06:32] <Ratapoil> how can I find what makes numlock blink and kill it
[06:32] <Monona> The wired network connection on my desktop doesn't work.  The network manager says "Requesting a network address from the wired network...", and then it tells me "Connection Established," but Firefox can't load any webpages and apt-get can't get upgrades.  What do I need to look at to figure this out?
[06:33] <SnakDoc> eross what os doesn't have updates ?
[06:33] <nztal> Ratapoil, tleds
[06:33] <Ratapoil> Dr_Willis: very weird indeed. I thought it was hardware but it nly starts during the booting of gnome and it stops shorty after initiating shutdown
[06:34] <CaneToad1> anyone ever seen anything like this before with CD reading?  I get quite different content on a commercially produced DVD-ROM on linux.    http://www.aaa.net.au/campbell/cd/
[06:35] <Ratapoil> not having a functionnal keyboard nterferes wth my wrk
[06:36] <Ratapoil> i WISH I could reinstal the system but the retards at DELL put /home in the same partiton as / so I can't reinstall without loosng my 300GB data
[06:36] <snits> Monona: does ifconfig show that the interface has an address? Perhaps it is not getting dns info
[06:37] <jigp> hello guys i can set /away invisible in yahoo bitlbee.but how to set visible to selected ym id? thanks
[06:38] <LacobF> mazda01 I just selected the best one but it's still "Converting" whatever that means, and it's taking like 10 seconds between each thing
[06:38] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: backup the home directory then format?
[06:38] <Monona> snits: There's two parts to ifconfig, yes? Under lo, it lists inet addr:127.0.0.1  Also, I set up OpenDNS, and it shows it under Network Settings.
[06:38] <woodworker> Dr_Willis:  none of that info saved upon rebot
[06:39] <Ratapoil>  
[06:39] <ferno> anybody know what it means when a "failsafe xterm session" is started when booting up? turned off my computer and now when i boot, gnome/ubuntu is broken
[06:40] <snits> Monona: There should be an probably be an eth0 if it is a wired interface in the output of ifconfig. What are the contents of /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:40] <Ratapoil>  C-S-B THAT's what I'll do as soon as I get back home in a month, until then I'm stuck with an unusable keyboard
[06:40] <mazda01> LacobF, can you post a screenshot to imageshack.com so I can see what it's saying.
[06:40] <mazda01> inside System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media, the media tab is missing in jaunty. anyone please help
[06:41] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: maybe shrink the / partition, install your new os in the free space and mount your old partition as /home and delete the os files?
[06:42] <LacobF> Here's the output in terminal, Synaptic is just frozen: http://pastebin.com/d14ee90ef
[06:42] <Ratapoil> C-S-B:  is that 100% safe?
[06:43] <francisco> Can somebody help me? I have a sony vgn-cr220e with ubuntu jaunty and I cant find a way to make the internal mic work
[06:43] <Monona> snits: Yes, there is also an eth0 in the output of ifconfig. No address there, though. /etc/resolv.conf has nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220
[06:43] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: the resizing or the installing of an os on another partition?
[06:43] <Ratapoil> resizing
[06:43] <fusionxtc> if i have  NVIDIA GeForce Go 7200 what driver do i download??
[06:44] <fwaokda> I'm using dual monitors... but it seems everytime I open anything it goes to the second monitor first... how can I fix this?
[06:44] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: Ive resized a lot of partitions with gparted including ntfs ones, and never had a problem so far. it's down to you at the end but I've never had a problem myself. ymmv
[06:44] <LacobF> And now it's got a few more listed, it seems to be going through all my apps...
[06:45] <Ratapoil> maybe I'll have to do that, cause blinking numlcok is retarded
[06:45] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: is an option at least...
[06:45] <C-S-B> *its
[06:45] <Ratapoil> option involving time and risk
[06:45] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: which is fun! :)
[06:46] <francisco> Can somebody help me? I have a sony vgn-cr220e with ubuntu jaunty and I cant find a way to make the internal mic work
[06:46] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: the amount of sketchy hacks I've done to get a job done there and then without the proper tools that have suceeded make this look like a cakewalk
[06:47] <Ratapoil> what look lke a cakewalk?
[06:47] <cwek_imoetzzz> ce_manja
[06:47] <LacobF> francisco: don't know, try a google search, found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968381
[06:47] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: resizing the partition and installing an os.
[06:47] <Ratapoil> is there a way to do a step-by-step bootup of x-server or gnome?
[06:48] <fusionxtc> if i have  NVIDIA GeForce Go 7200 what driver do i download??
[06:48] <xTheGoat121x> I'm looking to save space on a hard drive.. I have an SD card that is in the netbook at all times. What I'd like to do is move system folders from the SSD to the SD card, safely, without a reinstall... is there a way to do this?
[06:49] <fusionxtc> if i have  NVIDIA GeForce Go 7200 what driver do i download?? example nvidia-glx-180
[06:49] <Ratapoil> C-S-B: well, I don't have spare time right now, I don't have empty DVD's, I dn't have a stable internet connection, I don't even have a home, so it makes extensive operations like that extremely unconvenient
[06:50] <richardcavell> xTheGoat121x: Yes there is
[06:50] <C-S-B> Ratapoil: dont have a home? I'm imagining you hunched over an overturned bin with your laptop and a 3g card...
[06:50] <LacobF> fusionxtc just try that one, and if it don't work try a different one lol
[06:51] <Ratapoil> C-S-B: I'm squatting here and there.
[06:51] <xTheGoat121x> richardcavell, I wouldn't quite know what to search for on google... most of the things I've managed to come up with have left me feeling... uncomfortable. Can you recommend a walkthrough?
[06:51] <richardcavell> xTheGoat121x: mount the SD card, copy the selected folder to it, unmount the SD card, delete the folder from your hard disk, then mount the SD card in the filesystem
[06:52] <fusionxtc> LacobF: it seems that one is up to date and already installed
[06:52] <richardcavell> xTheGoat121x: I don't know of any simple walkthrough
[06:52] <fusionxtc> LacobF: but when trying to install it it says 1 was not upgraded i dont know what do do
[06:52] <fusionxtc> to do
[06:52] <Ratapoil> well, gotta go to sleep. g'night guys
[06:52] <fusionxtc> LacobF: i cant access my computer it looks like terminal
[06:53] <fusionxtc> LacobF:  im on another computer
[06:53] <LacobF> mazda01 is there a reason synaptic is converting my apps?  I've searched google but can't find anything on it...I guess I'll let it run through, it's down to the letter K...hmm...
[06:54] <LacobF> fusionxtc: type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[06:55] <ferno> anybody know what it means when a "failsafe xterm session" is started when booting up? turned off my computer and now when i boot, gnome/ubuntu is broken
[06:55] <[R]> ferno: means you broke something
[06:56] <fusionxtc> thats like the same error im getting
[06:56] <ferno> well yea, how do i go about figuring out what i broke
[06:56] <fusionxtc> cause when installing my connection was interrupted
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> ferno:  try running 'gnome-session' from the terminal.. also yoy may want to try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' from the terminal
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> crashing during upgrades.. can be a pain. :(
[06:57] <fusionxtc> LacobF: i did the code and it said not starting gnome display manager (gdm);it is not the default display manager
[06:58] <mazda01> LacobF, i'd need to see a screenshot.
[06:58] <mazda01> inside System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media, the media tab is missing in jaunty. anyone please help
[06:58] <LacobF> mazda01: Here's the output in terminal, Synaptic is just frozen: http://pastebin.com/d14ee90ef
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> gdm is the display manager normally ran as a service by default. If you install kdm, or some alternatives you will see that sort of message. because the gdm service command runs.. sees its not flagged as being the one to run by default.. so exits
[06:58] <fwaokda> my monitor isn't picking up it's highest resolution in the display settings menu... how can i fix this?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  tell the channel your video card for starters and how its connected to the monitor.
[06:59] <fwaokda> I used the janitor tool and I think if messed everything up :(
[06:59] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, ATI Radeon 4850 HD
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  i find that janotor tool to be the kind of thing that should of not been included
[07:00] <fusionxtc> LacobF: what should i do?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  it most likely removed your fglrx drivers - you could rerun the 'hardware drivers' tool and it may want to reinstall them
[07:00] <``y7> i just installed ubuntu on a machine that i already had ubuntu on. i switched out the hdds. ubuntu installs to the new hdd just fine, but when it goes to boot up, i get an error: "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"... "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"... windows XP installs and boots up to this drive just fine. any ideas where i'm going wrong with ubuntu?
[07:00] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, ya I know I thought it was gonna get rid of unused packages but boy was I wrong
[07:00] <nanotube> heh, only < 1300 users... this place is getting quiet ;)
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  it removes unofficial packages I think. :)  ive never really messed withit once i saw what it was wanting to remove
[07:00]  * gimpy the newbie has rejoined
[07:01] <mazda01> LacobF, you don't run synaptic with sudo! you run it with gksudo. why are you starting it from the terminal anyway? Start it from the menu. when starting it from the menu, the command is: gksu --description /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop /usr/sbin/synaptic
[07:01] <gimpy> hi everyone, i'm a newbie but i have a very critical security related question : that startup image for jaunty is just so excellent, would anyone know where i can find it ( as jpg preferably ) , i feel so insecure that i can't have it as wallpaper ;)
[07:01] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, well I didn't use hardware drivers tool instead I installed them manually from drivers @ ati.com
[07:01] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, the ones in hardware drivers didn't work for me
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  it wants to remove opera and a few other  not in the normal repos packages here..
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  i would reinstall them from ati.com - if there was a kernel upgrade THAT would rewuire you to reinstall them from ati.com each time the kernel updates
[07:01] <nhplane> ÓÐ»á½²ººÓïµÄ£¿
[07:02] <fusionxtc> LacobF:  help?
[07:02] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, ok I'll do a reinstall of them thanks
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> fwaokda:  that will be needed EACH time theres a kernel update.. most likely.. somthing to rember
[07:02] <Interphase> hey everyone, I discovered why VLC plays music so loud
[07:02] <Interphase> it is because ubuntu is so quiet
[07:02] <Interphase> they cancel out
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Interphase:  becuse its so Leet! :)
[07:03] <LacobF> mazda01: I ran it in terminal so I could see what's going on, otherwise I just have a jammed synaptic for an hour, also that's the same output as apt-get update
[07:03] <fwaokda> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[07:03]  * gimpy is saddened that nobody bought into his pitiful joke... :(
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> gimpy:  run it in virtualbox and take a screen shot. ;P
[07:03] <fusionxtc> LacobF:  what should i do next?
[07:03] <``y7> i just installed ubuntu on a machine that i already had ubuntu on. i switched out the hdds. ubuntu installs to the new hdd just fine, but when it goes to boot up, i get an error: "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"... "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"... windows XP installs and boots up to this drive just fine. any ideas where i'm going wrong with ubuntu?
[07:03] <nanotube> gimpy: "run sudo apt-get source usplash-theme-ubuntu"
[07:04] <LacobF> fusionxtc: don't know, never dealt with that, what's your display manager? see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/70526-how-change-default-display-manager.html
[07:04] <nanotube> gimpy: that will download the source for the theme, as a tar.gz file - inside you'll find the png images.
[07:04] <gimpy> nanotube: yey! great... thanks!
[07:04] <mazda01> LacobF, I am not sure what the convert thing is all about. i wish I could help
[07:04] <Celroc> Hi all
[07:04] <nanotube> gimpy: np :)
[07:05] <nanotube> ``y7: hmm... that's a weird one. tried reinstalling ubuntu? made sure the cd integrity check passes before installing?
[07:05]  * gimpy is excited that he will soon find inner peace, cheers everyone!
[07:05] <fusionxtc> LacobF: i dont know, it shouldnt have changed all i did was upgrade to 9.04
[07:05] <nanotube> gimpy: :)
[07:05] <``y7> nanotube, yes. i've also tried debian and that fails as well. i'd guess it's an hdd issue, but it works fine with windows xp
[07:06] <bullgard4> [Irssi] '/connect irc.gimp.org' obtains: "Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.gimp.org port 6667 [Cannot assign requested address:192.168.178.10]" although ~/.irssi/config does not include the address 192.168.178.10. What is the reason?
[07:07] <Celroc> I have a few GRUB questions for you guys
[07:07] <bullgard4> !ask | Celroc
[07:07] <LacobF> fusionxtc: I don't know what to do...
[07:07] <lstarnes> bullgard4: what is the output of /set hostname?
[07:08] <Celroc> Oh. Ok. Thank you for letting me know
[07:08] <LacobF> mazda01: that's okay, I'll just let it finish and see what it says when it's done
[07:08] <fusionxtc> LacobF: using the link you gave me, i switched to GDM and it worked thank you!
[07:09] <Celroc> I installed Windows, and it overwritten the GRUB bootloader... how do I get it back? (My linux partition is /dev/sda2)
[07:09] <bullgard4> lstarnes: The output is: "[server];  hostname = "
[07:10] <lstarnes> bullgard4: do you get the same error message with any other servers?
[07:10] <Celroc> Uh, also, I'm running as a LiveCD right now :-)
[07:10] <fusionxtc> LacobF: what should i do now that i have my display back, things are kinda funky
[07:10] <nanotube> ``y7: hm, in that case, no idea...
[07:10] <LacobF> fusionxtc: oh goodie :P
[07:10] <RxDx> what program is better to virtualization? VMWare or VirtualBox?
[07:10] <nanotube> !mbr
[07:10] <nanotube> !mbr | Celroc
[07:11] <Celroc> Thanks
[07:11] <LacobF> fusionxtc: go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[07:11] <mazda01> inside System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media, the media tab is missing in jaunty. anyone please help
[07:11] <nanotube> Celroc: np :)
[07:11] <stealth-> I want to apply a patch to wine, but I need the source code. Can I just download the sourcecode, apply the patch, and make install or is there a easier way?
[07:11] <fusionxtc> LacobF: ok i did that
[07:11] <nanotube> RxDx: well... i like virtualbox, fwiw... :)
[07:12] <fusionxtc> LacobF: then im guessing to activite what ever is recomended
[07:12] <stealth-> RxDx: its really a matter of opinion, I for one perfer virtualbox
[07:12] <LacobF> fusionxtc: yep
[07:12] <klown> is there a way to redirect my sound output when I plug in a usb headset?
[07:12] <fusionxtc> LacobF: then do i restart??
[07:12] <nanotube> RxDx: so... two votes for vbox so far. :)
[07:12] <LacobF> fusionxtc: yeah it should say to
[07:12] <RxDx> hehe.. thanks :)
[07:13] <nanotube> RxDx: if you don't need usb passthrough, can install vbox straight out of the repos, package "virtualbox-ose"
[07:13] <RxDx> thanks.. i need to reboot :)
[07:14] <stealth-> RxDx: its really a matter of opinion, I for one perfer virtualbox
[07:14] <LacobF> mazda01: what are you trying to do?
[07:14] <SuspectZero> anyone know of an app that can auto tag mp3 files for me witht he correct song name and artist?
[07:14] <stealth-> opps
[07:14] <stealth-> I want to apply a patch to wine, but I need the source code. Can I just download the sourcecode, apply the patch, and make install or is there a easier way?
[07:15] <josephdyland> Any one know how to fix resolution at 1920x1080 with newest nvidia driver, the top tool bar doesnt fit screen properly. Ive tried 9.04 and 8.10
[07:15] <lstarnes> stealth-: applying the patch to the sources manually then compiling the sources is pretty much the only way
[07:15] <[R]> stealth-: you can make someone else do it
[07:15] <nanotube> stealth-: gotta grab the source and apply the patch.
[07:15] <bullgard4> lstarnes: '/connect irc.gnome.org' obtains: "[gnome] -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.gnome.org; [gnome] -!- Irssi: Connecting to irc.gnome.org [130.239.18.157] port 6667; [gnome] -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.gnome.org established; [gnome] !irc.gnome.org *** Looking up your hostname...; [gnome] !irc.gnome.org *** Checking Ident; [gnome] !irc.gnome.org *** Found your hostname;  [gnome] !irc.gnome.org *** No Ident response;  [gnome] -!- Welcome to 
[07:15] <stealth-> ugh, k. thanks
[07:15] <nanotube> stealth-: grabbing source is easy: sudo apt-get source wine
[07:15] <lstarnes> bullgard4: it looks like that connection worked
[07:16] <stealth-> nanotube: oh, cool. I didn't know it worked like that. Can I use "make install" to properly install it over my current wine?
[07:16] <nanotube> stealth-: and instead of make install, try "checkinstall". that will make a .deb package for you which you can install, so everything is still integrated with the package manager.
[07:16] <bullgard4> lstarnes: Yes. --  But this does not answer the question which I put at the outset.
[07:16] <mazda01> LacobF, i set brasero to open a audio project everytime I insert a blank cd-r and now I don't want that to happen anymore because brasero doesn't even work! I want rythmbox to open when I insert a blank cd but I can't find where to change the settings anymore in jaunty.
[07:16] <klown> josephdyland: with my nvidia drivers, and my "monitor"(my tv), i had to set the resolution for it to work correctly.
[07:16] <lstarnes> bullgard4: I was trying to determine whether that server was the only one with the error
[07:16] <stealth-> nanotube: okay, ill do that
[07:16] <stealth-> nanotube: thanks, that really cleared things up :)
[07:16] <nanotube> stealth-: look at "checkinstall". make install will just overwrite a bunch of files, and apt-get/dpkg won't know about it.
[07:17] <bullgard4> lstarnes: Yes.
[07:17] <nanotube> stealth-: :)
[07:17] <lstarnes> bullgard4: it's likely being caused by a host binding setting with that server
[07:17] <Arzosoth> Hello, I have a graphics related question. I just put in a fresh install of jaunty- This machine has Intel 82845G (i845G/GL) integrated graphics but apparently is not using the driver (xorg.conf is completely blank). How do I get the intel drivers to work?
[07:17] <josephdyland> klown: Resolution is already set to 1920x1080, Is there any way to calibrate or something
[07:17] <nanotube> stealth-: gotta install it first with "sudo apt-get install checkinstall", btw.
[07:17] <anilg> I've multiple repositories in my sources.list.. how do I print the packages in one particular repository (say a launchpad ppa repo)?
[07:17] <LacobF> mazda01: go System > Preferences > Preferred Applications and look in the second tab
[07:17] <klown> josephdyland: excuse me..wrong wording, i had to change the dpi to get it to fit on the screen.
[07:17] <lstarnes> bullgard4: check the section in the config file for irc.gimp.org and make sure there's nothing in the host setting
[07:18] <LacobF> well wait
[07:18] <stealth-> nanotube: k
[07:18] <mazda01> LacobF, nope. that's already set to open rythmbox. I need to find the setting that tells brasero to open a audio project when I insert a blank cd
[07:19] <klown> is there a way to redirect my sound output when I plug in a usb headset?
[07:19] <anilg> anyone?
[07:20] <jorgenpt> I've got a machine that's booted to the live cd, where sshd has been installed and I have a sudo-able account. Can I somehow install the ubuntu system via the CLI?
[07:20] <Byste> I'm having trouble trying to install drivers from my Asus mobo, M4A78 Plus. Can someone help?
[07:20] <SuspectZero> anyone know of an app that can auto tag mp3 files for me witht he correct song name and artist?
[07:20] <Chapati> wow there are a lot of people in this chan
[07:20] <klown> SuspectZero: if you find out, please let me know as well.  I've been looking for the same thing.
[07:21] <[R]> Byste: "trouble" you say?
[07:21] <jorgenpt> SuspectZero: Perhaps MusicBrainz Picard?
[07:21] <SuspectZero> klown, well i was suggested 2 proggies for windows
[07:21] <[R]> SuspectZero: i use musicbrainz picard
[07:21] <Byste> yeah :\
[07:21] <SuspectZero> jorgenpt, yea thts wht i was suggested but isnt that for windows?
[07:21] <bullgard4> lstarnes: I will check the irc.gimp.org section.
[07:21] <jorgenpt> SuspectZero: No, it's multiplatform.
[07:21] <Byste> I'm getting errors trying to install the LAN driver
[07:21] <SuspectZero> 0o0oo0
[07:21] <SuspectZero> awesome
[07:21] <SuspectZero> i'll try that now then
[07:21] <jorgenpt> Otherwise I wouldn't suggest it in here. ;-)
[07:21] <SuspectZero> XD
[07:22] <[R]> Byste: what kind of crappy ethernet card do you have that the kernel doesnt support it
[07:22] <Byste> there's a folder on the Asus CD for linux drivers, supposedly compatible with 2.6.x kernals
[07:22] <nanotube> SuspectZero: easytag, maybe?
[07:22] <SuspectZero> i'll check it out nanotube
[07:23] <Byste> it's integrated on the MoBo, I'll recheck what it is exactly
[07:24] <Byste> But could you hear me out first? I think the trouble is elsewhere
[07:24] <Byste> so I used the GUI to copy the folder from the CD to my Desktop
[07:25] <Byste> so I could get out of read-only mode and all
[07:25] <Byste> I opened up Terminal to follow instructions in the readme
[07:25] <Byste> the driver was packed as tar, bz2
[07:25] <LacobF> mazda01: in nautilus, go Edit > Preferences > Media
[07:25] <Byste> I extracted that just fine
[07:26] <SuspectZero> one more thing, is there a way to share folders in ubuntu. i have a folder on pc B which is on the same network as this pc and i would like to access one of its folders.
[07:26] <Byste> and then it instructed me to do a make command
[07:26] <Byste> make clean modules
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> !samba | SuspectZero
[07:26] <SuspectZero> ty
[07:26] <Byste> when I did that line, even with sudo, I got errors
[07:27] <Byste> does it matter where I have the files?
[07:27] <Byste> can I run it from Desktop directory, or do I need to move the files to usr or something?
[07:28] <SuspectZero> wht if its not for windows ActionParsnip
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Byste: as long as you hve full access to the location, no
[07:28] <SuspectZero> both pcs are running ubuntu
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> SuspectZero: you can use nfs or sshfs if you want
[07:28] <nanotube> SuspectZero: in that case, try openssh-server
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !share
[07:28] <nanotube> can use sftp to transfer files.
[07:28] <pawan> hi
[07:28] <Byste> so where do you reckon I'm getting these errors? Are the AM3 socket mobos not compatible?
[07:29] <wilmar> hi
[07:29] <nomad77> Byste:  you need to do a "make",then if no errors,"sudo make install"
[07:29] <SuspectZero> ActionParsnip, yea i already have ssh set up so i can control the box remotely
[07:29] <phpgunner> anyone know much about overclocking or a irc room for the subject?
[07:29] <nomad77> Byste: then sudo modprobe foo.ko most likely
[07:29] <SuspectZero> i just want to access it like i do with my windows shares
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> SuspectZero: then you can use the same service to file share
[07:30] <SuspectZero> phpgunner, if u dont get any help here u can try #hardware or #freenode
[07:30] <LacobF> mazda01: does that work?
[07:30] <mazda01> LacobF, nope. already checked there. they all still say, "Ask what to do"
[07:30] <phpgunner> ty
[07:30] <mazda01> LacobF, thanks for trying though. I have been in the gconf editor and everywhere. i can't seem to find the darn solution.
[07:31] <SuspectZero> ActionParsnip, got it
[07:31] <SuspectZero> thanks
[07:32] <LacobF> mazda01: oh did you set it from inside brasero?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> np bro
[07:33] <bullgard4> lstarnes: There are 4 relevant sections in http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/395789/ . Which one do you mean?
[07:34] <lstarnes> bullgard4: the first one.  Try erasing the host line
[07:34] <lstarnes> bullgard4: after doing that, /reload
[07:34] <pawan> hi
[07:34] <pawan> how to install nvidia drivers
[07:34] <pawan> i have geforce fx 5200
[07:35] <staticRails> I have problem with gconf
[07:35] <staticRails> can anybody help?
[07:35] <[R]> staticRails: "problem" you say?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> the system-->admin-->hardware drivers tool - is normally used to inztall the nvidia drivers
[07:36] <staticRails> when i login
[07:36] <mazda01> LacobF, well, brasero used to come up and ask me what I wanted to do with the blank audio cd. I checked a box that said to open a audio project in brasero and I checked a box that said to never ask me again.  Now I want to change that. I can't find it!
[07:36] <jbu> hi all, when I do ctrl+alt+{1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6} it takes me to different CLIs, what is that?
[07:36] <staticRails> the login screen shows up again.
[07:36] <staticRails> and it occurs over and over.
[07:37] <Nick_Meister> hey guys how do i disable the annoying beep?
[07:37] <staticRails> when I login in to safe mode terminal
[07:37] <[R]> jbu: what do you mena 'what'
[07:37] <jbu> [R], I mean what is the significance
[07:37] <Lartza_> My FTP is extremely slow
[07:37] <[R]> jbu: significance?
[07:37] <Nick_Meister> like every time i want to shut down my computer it beeps, or if i backspace a bit too far it also beeps
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> mazda01:  in teh nautilus file manager -> Edit -> perferances -> media tab.
[07:37] <jbu> [R], how is it different from opening up a terminal
[07:37] <Lartza_> I get something like 800kb-1,5Mb of transfer speed between my ubuntu and windows on LAN
[07:37] <[R]> jbu: its not really
[07:37] <Lartza_> Nick_Meister: Google it
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Nick_Meister:  several beeps can be turned off in different ways. - one way is the command 'xset b 0 0 0' (sets beeps volume to zero)
[07:38] <[R]> jbu: excpet you can login as a differnet user
[07:38] <LacobF> mazda01: Perhaps check if there's anything to do with brasero in Services lol
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Nick_Meister:  also you could blacklist the pcspkr module - that shoul kill most beeps  (but not system sounds)
[07:38] <Lartza_> Nick_Meister: YOu need to blacklist some stuff
[07:38] <LacobF> Nick_Meister disconnect the wire to the system beep if it's a desktop
[07:38] <Lartza_> Nick_Meister: Dr_Willis's stuff :)
[07:38] <Nick_Meister> unfortunately its a laptop
[07:38] <mazda01> Dr_Willis, that's not it. how many time do I have to tell people this. the setting does not control what is occuring I have already checked that. thanks for trying though.
[07:38] <Nick_Meister> ::(
[07:39] <mazda01> LacobF, that's a thought. brb
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> im gonna try to beep thing
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> i mean the xset
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> ok it appears like it worked thanks
[07:39] <Lartza_> rmmod pcspkr
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> do i need to do that every time i log on then?
[07:39] <Nick_Meister> the xset thing
[07:39] <Lartza_> blacklist it
[07:39] <mazda01> LacobF, nope.
[07:40] <Lartza_> Yes you need to do that on every boot
[07:40] <Nick_Meister> :(
[07:40] <Lartza_> BUt dr_willises is a roundaway solution
[07:40] <Lartza_> Remove the pcspkr module
[07:40] <Nick_Meister> ill just setup to run that command on startup
[07:40] <Lartza_> rmmod pcspkr
[07:40] <Lartza_> No
[07:40] <Lartza_> do that and then blacklist it
[07:40] <staticRails> I have Jaunty installed. After logging in, the login screen shows up again. When I login in failsafe terminal the followin I encounter some error which is related to gConf.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> pcspkr module controlls the old fashioned 'beeps' that used to be made by the speakers on the motherboard. (rember those days?) :)
[07:41] <staticRails> I have Jaunty installed. After logging in, the login screen shows up again. When I login in failsafe terminal I encounter some error which is related to gConf.  any idea...
[07:41] <Nick_Meister> Lartza_, how exactly do i blacklist? cause i ran that command
[07:41] <Lartza_> Dr_Willis: Thos beeps he is turning off
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  try making a new user see if it works for them also?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> blacklist is controlled by some file in /etc/ i forget what one
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> !blacklist
[07:41] <Lartza_> Nick_Meister: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklis
[07:42] <Lartza_> *blacklist
[07:42] <Nick_Meister> ok thanks
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. to load in specific order.. someone was asking about that yesterday
[07:42] <Lartza_> Dr_Willis: What does the xset do?
[07:42] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: how I can make a new user without logging in?
[07:43] <Lartza_> staticRails: Yoy can't :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  the console is our friend. :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  alt-ctrl-f1, login,  sudo adduser billgates
[07:43] <Neroon> Good Morning
[07:43] <rhin0> Morning
[07:44] <Neroon> Anyone here got a clue about fglrx driver?
[07:44] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: thanks. I am trying it now..
[07:45] <logankoester> What program cam i use to tweak the contrast/hue/etc on my webcam (for skype)?
[07:45] <rhin0> @ Neroon what distro are you running?
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> staticRails:  if it works with the new user.. but not the old. its some config issue with the non-working user..
[07:46] <fwaokda> Can someone help me try and repair my display settings? I have a Radeon 4850 card and have dual monitors setup.  I recently used "Computer Janitor" and it screwed everything up, i think. So I uninstalled (purged) all the ati packages I could think of and then reinstalled from scratch.  I've now managed to get the displays back up with one extended display BUT I can't get the full resolution of the main monitor only the resolution sett
[07:46] <fwaokda> ing prior to it.
[07:46] <Lartza_> So why is my ftp only around 1,5Mb(slower usually)
[07:46] <bullgard4> lstarnes: I deleted 'host = "MD97600" in ~/.irssi/config. I did /reload. I errorneously issued the command '/connect irc.gnome.org'. Irrsi connected me to irc.gnome.org and gave me the nickname bullgard5. I do not know how to undo this command. --  I issued the command '/connect irc.gimp.net'. It connected me to irc.gimp.net. Voila!  But it gave me the nickname bullgard6.
[07:46] <rhin0> did you try installing or running the ati settings under root?
[07:46] <Lartza_> Now it's 1,3Mb
[07:47] <Lartza_> Computers on a meter or so LAN cable, proftpd Ubuntu to Filezilla Windows
[07:47] <lstarnes> bullgard4: you can disconnect from a server using /disconnect irc.gnome.org and change your nick using /nick bullgard4
[07:47] <fwaokda> rhin0, yes I still get an error for some reason when I try and open the superuser aticonfig from the menu (but before I never changed my settings from there only from sys>prefs>display)
[07:47] <Neroon> @rhin0 me?
[07:47] <hilary> why would X fail on one account on my machine
[07:48] <hilary> I get mode not found when trying to login
[07:48] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: The problem doesn't solved... same issue for the new user.
[07:48] <hilary> but other accounts work fine
[07:48] <Lartza_> hilary: You messed things up on your homefolder config files?
[07:48] <hilary> which config file
[07:48] <Lartza_> What is the last thing you did with the now non-working account
[07:48] <hilary> and I don't recall editing any of them recently
[07:48] <Lartza_> Ok, what DID you do?
[07:49] <el_rey_link> Hola gente, que tal os va?
[07:49] <staticRails> I have Jaunty installed. After logging in, the login screen shows up again. When I login in failsafe terminal I encounter some error which is related to gConf.  any idea...
[07:49] <rhin0> fwaokda, I have an nvidia card, but if it is the same, ati-settings manager as root, and overwrite the xconfg file after you change, and then log off and log on again for x to reset (or reset x on your own)
[07:49] <staticRails> Dr_Willis: The problem doesn't solved... same issue for the new user.
[07:49] <wizzo_> How late does this server run? 7 Days a week?
[07:49] <hilary> I used the resolution gui to look at what resolutions were available, as I was only getting 800x600 on a thin client attached to the server
[07:49] <rhin0> @wizzo it actually closes in 10 minutes
[07:49] <hilary> I didn't change anything though
[07:50] <staticRails> I have Jaunty installed. After logging in, the login screen shows up again. When I login in failsafe terminal I encounter some error which is related to gConf.  any idea...
[07:50] <Lartza_> hilary: Hmm... I don't have much of idea
[07:50] <nomad77> !es | el_rey_li
[07:50] <Lartza_> nomad77: He already left.........
[07:50] <nomad77> sorry
[07:50] <wizzo_> rhin0: Is their other servers that run 24 hrs, 7 days a week?
[07:50] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the gconf from the command line without newtork connection?
[07:51] <Lartza_> staticRails: Download the package with some other computer and usb it
[07:51] <rhin0> @wizzo: I was kidding, I would assume this runs as long as the interwebs are connected together
[07:51] <staticRails> Lartza_: I have live cd
[07:51] <staticRails> how can I use it?
[07:52] <wizzo_> rhin0: I couldn't get online with it last night and I am just new within the last 2 weeks on here
[07:52] <Lartza_> staticRails: TO get the package from there? That is possible
[07:52] <staticRails> Lartza_: how?
[07:52] <bullgard4> lstarnes: '/nick bullgard4; [GIMPnet] -!- Nick bullgard4 is already in use'
[07:52] <Lartza_> staticRails: I am not sure how to setup it as package source, but you can browse the cd for the package
[07:52] <Lartza_> I could do it on gui
[07:52] <Lartza_> BUt just find the package from the cd
[07:52] <nikolam> Hi, My Hardy is updating kernel and it asks me what to do about menu.lst.
[07:52] <Bolice> please...how do I install flash cs3 in wine????
[07:53] <rhin0> wizzo: no ideas then, I just got on, maybe they were doing maintainence
[07:53] <Lartza_> Bolice: Normally
[07:53] <wizzo_> rhin0: Probably
[07:53] <Interphase> nikolam, have you edited menu.lst yourself ever?
[07:53] <nikolam> What option should I choose to preserve another ubuntu instalaltion that also boots from menu.lst?
[07:53] <Lartza_> Bolice: Like any windows program, you run the setup with wine
[07:53] <Myx0x3> is there an way in ubuntu to remove hangover?
[07:53] <rhin0> @Bolice: have you thought about installing Virtual Box and installing windows to run that, hell of a lot better than wine
[07:53] <phoenixz> Im using cp to copy a file from A to B but every time the file gets to B, its like 20KB shorter, nomatter what I try.. there is NO error, no disk full, nothing.. Isnt CP supposed to copy the file completely?? whats up here?
[07:53] <nikolam> Interphase, every time I update kernel, since 6.10 Interphase ...
[07:54] <Lartza_> rhin0: Or not, you need more powerful computer for that
[07:54] <nikolam> Because kernel update messe menu.lst every time.
[07:54] <Myx0x3> nwm found! suso apt-get remove hangover
[07:54] <Interphase> niko, what I did with that was save my old menu.lst, then copy/paste what I had edited into the new one
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[07:54] <Lartza_> The setup gives that?
[07:54] <Slart> phoenixz: check the md5sums of the two files.. perhaps it's just a file system thing
[07:54] <nikolam> Interphase, I didi it 2, for 2 years And I am finally sick of it.
[07:55] <Lartza_> Are you sure your setup is not corrupted, if it's not it might need some settings changes or might not work at all.
[07:55] <shaullx> is there any good ftp gui client?
[07:55] <Interphase> lol, nikolam, it takes like 3 minutes
[07:55] <Slart> !ftp
[07:55] <nikolam> I want kernel update that does not mess up other linux/ubuntu installations on machine.
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[07:55] <nikolam> Interphase, Try it on 7 servers
[07:55] <rhin0> @Bolice, Lartza: depends on the specs of the computer, I run 2 gigs of ram and an old dual core and can run cs3 photoshop in virtual box on virtual xp
[07:55] <shaullx> nautilus is ftp client? :O
[07:55] <Interphase> nikolam, that does sound like it sucks
[07:55] <Interphase> then I don't know
[07:56] <nikolam> Question is just what option to choose
[07:56] <Lartza_> But I have a semi-new singlecore with 2 gigs
[07:56] <nikolam> I have backup, Interphase  :)
[07:56] <lstarnes> bullgard4: that's most likely being caused by having another connection open on that network
[07:56] <Lartza_> Bolice: Flash CS3 Should work, badly
[07:57] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the gconf from the command line without newtork connection?
[07:57] <Lartza_> Bolice: Installer was not tested, but properties and parameters panels are empty and other problems
[07:57] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the gconf from the command line without newtork connection, but using the live cd?
[07:57] <Lartza_> Bolice: But F4 fixes the hidden panels
[07:58] <Lartza_> DOn't know why your installer fails, others say it is fine
[07:58] <Lartza_> Are you using what version of wine?
[07:58] <Lartza_> 1.0.1 ir 1.1.25?
[07:58] <Lartza_> *or
[07:59] <bullgard4> lstarnes:  '/disconnect irc.gnome.org; !- Irssi: Not connected to server'
[07:59] <fwaokda> is it possible to force a resolution to a monitor in the xorg.conf? The monitor supports a resolution but after every restart it reverts to a smaller resolution... ???
[07:59] <logankoester> can anyone tell me how to re-enable ctrl+alt+backspace?
[07:59] <Bolice> but <Lartza_>, Installer doesn't run
[07:59] <lstarnes> !dontzap | logankoester
[07:59] <logankoester> thanks
[07:59] <Slart> fwaokda: check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why it's not using the higher resolutions
[08:00] <Lartza_> Bolice: What wine version do you have?
[08:00] <logankoester> is that decision likely to be reversed in the future?
[08:00] <logankoester> it's ridiculous
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[08:00] <fwaokda> Slart, I don't know what to look for in this file :(
[08:00] <nomad77> logankoester: iirc /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:00] <Lartza_> Bolice: I can't really help much it sohuld work somehow
[08:01] <Slart> fwaokda: have you opened it? look for lines starting with (EE) or (WW).. those mean Error and Warning respectively
[08:01] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the gconf from the command line without newtork connection, but using the live cd?
[08:01] <Slart> fwaokda: you can pastebin it and we can all have a look
[08:01] <nomad77> logankoester: kernel.sysrq = 1
[08:02] <fwaokda> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m33160f4f   --  thanks
[08:02] <logankoester> nomad77: i mean as a default
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[08:02] <logankoester> no distro using X should disable ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:03] <lstarnes> logankoester: I think you should blame the developers of Xorg for that
[08:03] <logankoester> that decision should be left to the X implementation
[08:03] <nomad77> oh sorry 3am here that was ctrl+alt+delete=reboot duh on me
[08:03] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the gconf from the command line without newtork connection, but using the live cd?
[08:03] <fwaokda> Slart, I can post the xorg.conf file if needed also...
[08:03] <Slart> fwaokda: sure
[08:04] <fwaokda> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m472bdfe9
[08:05] <Slart> fwaokda: what resolution do you want to use? what does it use when you reboot?
[08:05] <wizzo_> Hi, on my Ubuntu, I want to start all over: Uninstall it and reinstall it again. How do I go about doing this when It is on a partition of its own. My problem is, I don't have enough space to add some things on here
[08:06] <nomad77> logankoester: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html#more-1421
[08:06] <bullgard4> lstarnes: '/help' lists 122 keywords. '/help <keyword>' prints the syntax of the <keyword> command but not the semantics (and in some cases a rudimentary semantics). Where can I find the semantics of the Irssi <keyword> commands?
[08:06] <fwaokda> Slart, it keeps reverting to 1680x1050 (which is what the second monitor uses) but It is able and has used before the resolution 1920x1080
[08:06] <Slart> fwaokda: that was the entire log file?
[08:07] <lstarnes> bullgard4: in many cases you can guess by the name
[08:07] <gabkdlly> wizzo_: you might try booting into a live CD and resizing the partitions, after you have done a backup of course
[08:07] <fwaokda> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m708c0e57
[08:08] <wizzo_> gabkdlly: How you do that?
[08:08] <fwaokda> Slart, it said it has changed so there is the updated one after i reloaded it
[08:08] <gabkdlly> wizzo_: look for "Partition Editor" under System
[08:08] <fwaokda> Slart, I guess I could also change the settings and let it mess up and then repost the log after it messes up, if you want?
[08:08] <Nameless_au> !usplash
[08:10] <wizzo_> gabkdlly: I don't see that under System
[08:10] <lucasmac> ciao
[08:10] <Slart> fwaokda: this might be an ATI problem... you can see in the log file that it does detect that one monitor can do 1920x1080 and the other one 1400x1050 .. but then the log file ends before you can see anything about why it selects the video mode it does
[08:11] <inktri> my ubuntu is sexy
[08:11] <lucasmac> !list
[08:11] <gabkdlly> wizzo_: I think it will be there once you boot into the live CD, it might be called gparted
[08:11] <bullgard4> lstarnes: My intelligence is insufficient to guess the semantics of commands like NETWORK, CHANNEL, SERVER although I am the holder of 6 patents for my company (an international concern) issued to major countries of the world. So I need it written down somewhere in order to read it and understand it. Where is it to be found?
[08:11] <fwaokda> Slart, I just did something else let me see if it gave us more info
[08:11] <lstarnes> bullgard4: in some cases it isn't written down
[08:11] <bullgard4> lstarnes: I see.
[08:11] <wizzo_> Oh, close this and put the Original Ubuntu disk in and reboot and find it in there then?
[08:12] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the gconf from the command line without newtork connection, but using the live cd?
[08:12] <fwaokda> Slart, nope no new info
[08:12] <staticRails> how one can reinstall the a package from the command line without newtork connection, but using the live cd?
[08:12] <fwaokda> Slart, just had a thought though... I'm gonna try something and relog to see if it works
[08:12] <staticRails> how one can reinstall a package from the command line without newtork connection, but using the live cd?
[08:12] <gabkdlly> wizzo_: yes
[08:12] <wizzo_> gabkdlly: ok
[08:12] <zydas> Hi all
[08:13] <zydas> where is turkish help room?
[08:13] <nomad77> bullgard4: irssi.org?
[08:13] <nomad77> !tr |zydas
[08:14] <zydas> thanks, but please turkish ubuntu channel link?
[08:14] <staticRails> #ubuntu-ir
[08:14] <lstarnes> zydas: #ubuntu-tr
[08:15] <zydas> lstarnes, Thank you verry much
[08:15] <zydas> .
[08:15] <lstarnes> zydas: or, if you need an actual URL, irc://irc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-tr
[08:16] <bullgard4> nomad77: Your message is too short to be comprehensible.
[08:17] <fwaokda> Slart, well now I have the proper resolution on one monitor but the second monitor isn't receiving a signal anymore... know of a way to fix that?
[08:17] <nomad77> bullgard4: documentation at http://irssi.org/
[08:18] <Neroon> @staticrails is your cdrom in your repository list?
[08:19] <bullgard4> nomad77: I had done much snooping in http://irssi.org/ and could not find the semantics of the 122 commands. Tell me, for example, where is the semantics of the /SERVER command to be found precisely.
[08:19] <fwaokda> Slart, ok I have the proper 1920x1080 on the primary monitor, but the highest I can get to work on the secondary monitor is 1400x1050 it seems... no the highest which is 1680x1050
[08:20] <fwaokda> Slart, this gets stranger and stranger... now I tried to revert back to the 1680x1050 and now it works...
[08:20] <der_On> hello. I've just dragged a folder in nautilus to the space where all mounted devices are listed and now it disappeard! Is there any chance that this folder still exists somewhere?
[08:20] <fwaokda> Slart, I'm gonna try logging off and back on and seeing if it sticks
[08:20] <nomad77> i'd use /help server if you need more,then i don't know
[08:20] <Joe_> umm... I made a mistake when I edited visudo, now I can't sudo anything (to include getting back in there to fix the mistake)... what can I do?
[08:21] <lstarnes> bullgard4: I would suggest asking the developers to make more concise documentation, including full definitons of all semantics
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> Joe_: boot to recovery root console and change it
[08:21] <lstarnes> bullgard4: however, for the average user, the current documentation is usually sufficient
[08:21] <Joe_> actionparsnip1 arg, was hoping something other than that... oh well, thanks
[08:22] <bullgard4> lstarnes: Is a Launchpad bug report the proper way to ask developers for a more concise Irssi documentation?
[08:23] <lstarnes> bullgard4: irssi's official website, http://irssi.org/, has the appropriate contact details somewhere
[08:23] <lstarnes> bullgard4: alternatively, you yourself could make more concise documentation
[08:23] <bullgard4> lstarnes: I noted times and again heated debates in the IRC channel #irssi about this issue.
[08:24] <bullgard4> lstarnes: I could do only guesswork as I do not know what the developer intended when he wrote the code.
[08:25] <Brett1> would someone help me enabling korean input on my computer, i have taken the steps i think should enable it, but i'm having problems
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> !keyboard | Brett1
[08:26] <lstarnes> bullgard4: what was their response about the issue?
[08:26] <deniz> will the ati hd4850 video card work in ubuntu 8.04?
[08:26] <bullgard4> lstarnes: They usually referred to some HOWTOs.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | deniz
[08:27] <EdgEy> is it possible to change a partition's number without erasing it?
[08:27] <EdgEy> i want to change my /dev/sda2 to /dev/sda1 it's the only partition on the drive
[08:27] <ActionParsnip1> Guest75519: i'd say yes using the proprietary driver at www.ati.com
[08:27] <staticRails> Neroon:  r u there???
[08:27] <Slart> EdgEy: I think those are in the order they appear on the drive
[08:27] <Neroon> @staticrails *nod*
[08:28] <Slart> EdgEy: afaik that's one of the reasons they are using uuids now
[08:28] <EdgEy> slart hm okay
[08:28] <Brett1> anyone willing to help me set up korean input?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> !korea
[08:28] <staticRails> Neroon: how one can reinstall a package from the command line without newtork connection, but using the bootable flash memory
[08:28] <EdgEy> i rearranged some partitions on one of my drives, and windows is now refusing to boot, i think it's looking at the wrong partition to boot from
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> Brett1: may help
[08:28] <der_On> hello. I've just dragged a folder in nautilus to the space where all mounted devices are listed and now it disappeard! Is there any chance that this folder still exists somewhere?
[08:28] <neil> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with an issue using virtual box to run ubuntu
[08:28] <EdgEy> just going to mess about with the boot.ini and try different numbers i guess
[08:28] <Slart> EdgEy: or.. wait.. you said it was the only partition on the drive? and still it's /dev/sda2 ?
[08:28] <staticRails> Neroon: I wnat to reinstall gconf
[08:28] <Neroon> @staticrails i though you wanted to use the live cd?
[08:29] <EdgEy> Slart well i probably have to reboot then, there was a /dev/sda1 i've deleted
[08:29] <Slart> EdgEy: ah... yes.. it might change when you reboot
[08:29] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: so is the usb device the media you installed with?
[08:29] <staticRails> Neroon: I can't login ActionParsnip1  ya
[08:29] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: sorry.... yes
[08:30] <Shazburg> der_On: The file is on whatever device you dropped it onto.
[08:30] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: then if you enable it as a repo in /etc/apt/sources.lst then it will be used. the top line references the installation media
[08:30] <der_On> Shazburg: and if i dropped it between two devices?
[08:30] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:
[08:30] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: tkx
[08:30] <Neroon> actionparsnip1 saves me typing ;-)
[08:31] <Shazburg> der_On: It'll be on one of them. That behaviour is always a copy/move depending on the device.
[08:31] <neil> I still cannot get the display to work correctly, I only get a maximum resolution of 800x600 with a ratio of 4:3. I have tried running the guest additions for linux like someone in here suggested yesterday but it still won't work
[08:31] <neil> Anyone have any ideas?
[08:32] <CorpX> anyone know how to tell putty to start a new logfile to log stuff?
[08:32] <Neroon> @neil so the guest additions are installed?
[08:32] <jeffwheeler> I seem to remember some way of manipulating Xorg settings without editing xorg.conf itself; are there some XML files that can set values without having to create a specific xorg.conf?
[08:32] <neil> Yep.
[08:32] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[08:32] <der_On> Shazburg: what if i accidently dropped it onto trash and now if i want to open trash, it says: The folder contents could not be displayed.
[08:32] <Neroon> @neil hm
[08:32] <Shazburg> der_On: That would be a bad thing.
[08:32] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: What should I write in this file?
[08:33] <der_On> maybe recovery?
[08:33] <Shazburg> der_On: What filesystem are you using?
[08:33] <Bundestrojaner> how can i install an older version of nvidia-glx? the newest version in apt doesn't support geforce 4
[08:33] <Neroon> @staticrails you shouldnt need to add anything. but the first line should be your install media
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> CorpX: putty -log ~/newLogFileName
[08:33] <der_On> Shazburg: the folder was on an ntfs file-system
[08:33] <Neroon> @staticrails it might have an # in front of it
[08:34] <Shazburg> der_On: This might suck then. Hold on a sec.
[08:34] <DaveTarmac> Hi folks - having a bit of a dumb morning, how do I create a tar.gz file that includes all files in a dir, including hidden files?
[08:34] <neil> I tried it yesterday and it allowed a a higher resolution but the aspect ratio wasn't correct to fit correctly on 15.5 inch wide screen correctly and when I reloaded unbuntu today it was back to normal with the maximum at 800x600
[08:34] <Slart> Bundestrojaner: use the hardware drivers dialog thingy.. it has older versions as well
[08:34] <der_On> Shazburg: ive already opened the terminal and found out there is a ntfsundelete command. I think i need to unmount the drive first, cause it says that the drive is in use.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: the top line shold mention the install media, uncomment it and save the new fike. then have the device attatched and run: sudo apt-get update
[08:34] <DaveTarmac> I tried "tar -czvf nameoffile.tar.gz ."
[08:34] <CorpX> ActionParsnip1, i want to start a new log file in the middle of a session
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> CorpX: man putty      is goooood :)
[08:34] <billy> wow i like record my desktop :D
[08:35] <spikemcc> hi ?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> CorpX: not sure then dude
[08:35] <spikemcc> !paste
[08:35] <der_On> Shazburg: i found it! it was on the same drive under .Trash-0/files
[08:35] <billy> i recorded 4 mins with music and it was only 15mb
[08:35] <Shazburg> der_On: Congratulations.
[08:35] <DaveTarmac> but when I did that, it seemed to copy EVERY file and folder within the folder and prefix them with ._
[08:36] <der_On> Shazburg: it was my damn project folder!!! My heart nearly stopped
[08:36] <der_On> Shazburg: thank you anyway.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> der_On: couldve restored from backup if anything went wrong
[08:36] <Shazburg> der_On: I'll take a problem like this over a real one any day. For the future, take a look at TimeVault: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/150600
[08:37] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218658/ can you check theses errors I need numby package I think
[08:37] <haanuj> my 3D effects are not permanent plzz tell me what to do
[08:38] <Revo> anyone know how to remove all proxy settings that where set in gnome prefs from ubuntu from SSH command line only?
[08:38] <Flannel> spikemcc: try sudo apt-get install python-numpy
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> Revo: if you run:   echo $http_proxy
[08:39] <neil> I'm sorry to go on about this but has anyone got any ideas on why the resolution isn't working. It's just that I am looking to move to a linux OS permanently but I want to try using it on my windows system first and I really can't use it properly if I only have a small window sized display
[08:39] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: tar cfv test.tar test/
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> Revo: does it show
[08:39] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Will grab everything in the directory, including hidden files.
[08:39] <dsotr> hey guys, once I found a website about command line - programs, does anybody know it, I can't remember the website address...
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> neil: what is the output of:   lspci | grep -i vga
[08:39] <fwaokda> how can i find all the ATi packages I have installed so I can remove them all?
[08:40] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: will it include JUST the contents on the directory, or the directory itself?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: dpkg -l | grep -i ati | less
[08:40] <jigp> hello bitlbee users..how to visible in a particular person using yahoo...
[08:40] <haanuj> hey HELP me plzzz
[08:40] <Flannel> dsotr: There's lots of websites about command line programs.  Anything in particular you can remember about it? what was it for? etc?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: will help
[08:40] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: The directory itself, and it's contents.
[08:40] <fwaokda> thanks
[08:40] <Neroon> @neil sorry, but i don't know about ubuntu in a virtual machine
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | haanuj
[08:41] <dsotr> Flannel: I think there was "cli" in the name :)
[08:41] <neil> @ActionParsnip1sorry totally new to learning PCs in depth and don't exactly understand the latter part of your question
[08:41] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, is there a way i can write that to a file so i can see all of it at once?
[08:41] <neil> @Neroon Thank you anyway
[08:41] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: is there a way to get it to do jsut the contents, only I'm moving the files to a web server and I'd rather not extract them and then copy them all to the root dir
[08:41] <haanuj> i have a problem with 3D effects. that's not permanent
[08:41] <Flannel> fwaokda: instead of | less, do > file
[08:42] <dsotr> Flannel: can you point me to one of them anyways? they may have a link to the one I'm looking for
[08:42] <Flannel> fwaokda: so, dpkg -l | grep -i ati > file.txt
[08:42] <Flannel> dsotr: What are you looking to learn on this website?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: sure, instead of ' | less' change it to ' > ~/output.txt'
[08:42] <dsotr> Flannel: a nice command-line music player, like xmms
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: dpkg -l | grep ati > ~/stuff.txt
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> neil: its a command line command, run i in terminal
[08:43] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, Flannel, thanks
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: 'ati' is fairly common in the english language
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: if you want, you can grep it again to reduce results
[08:44] <haanuj> plzzz HELP me
[08:45] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, well i purged quite a few packages(?) already that were ati packages but I still see menu shortcuts and stuff so im wondering if i got everything
[08:45] <Slart> !details | haanuj
[08:45] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, this is the only thing I see possibly related to ATi, ii  fglrx-modaliases                           2:8.620-0ubuntu1                               Identifiers supported by the ATI graphics dr
[08:45] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, think it is safe to remove that?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> not sure, i dont buy ati cards so i'm not the guy to ask
[08:46] <neil> @ActionParsnip1 It says: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[08:46] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, ok thanks
[08:46] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, think im gonna leave it and do my reinstall of the drivers now
[08:46] <haanuj> every time i do compiz then 3D effects come but after restarting it's gone       plzzz tell me what to do
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> neil: ok, so its a virtualbox
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> neil: have youinstalled the guest additions?
[08:47] <neil> yep, its sun virtual box and yes i have run the additions
[08:47] <haanuj>  every time i do compiz then 3D effects come but after restarting it's gone       plzzz tell me what to do
[08:47] <Slart> !repeat | haanuj
[08:48] <haanuj>  every time i do compiz then 3D effects come but after restarting it's gone       plzzz tell me what to do
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Still here?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> neil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[08:48] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: yeah mate
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Okay, I think I got you covered.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> neil: edit your xorg.conf and make the display sections similar
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: tar cvf test.tar `ls -A1`
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Those are backticks.
[08:49] <billy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt5iFG-uhHc
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> neil: actually i'd just use the whole thing
[08:49] <anaxa> #kubuntu
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> neil: your keyboard may be different (that example uses US layout, you can omit that line)
[08:49] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: So that 'ls' will create a file list and tar will add them to the archive, recursively, with hidden files.
[08:49] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: ok, I'll give that a go, cheers
[08:49] <smilenet> #jakarta
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you will need    gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to edit ti
[08:49] <Neroon> @haanuj can you deliver some more info, what and when works with your compiz?
[08:50] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Cheers.
[08:50] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: if I wanted to .gz that, I would add the 'z' flag, yeah?
[08:51] <haanuj> Neroon : it's 3D effect problem.. whenever  i restart then 3D effects are gone....
[08:52] <smilenet> yeye
[08:52] <Neroon> @haanuh so, you want to have compiz enabled every time you start X?
[08:52] <Neroon> @haanuj so, you want to have compiz enabled every time you start X?
[08:52] <haanuj> Neroon: after doing "compiz" it's back.. everytime i do the same process
[08:52] <rd1089> hi, is it possible to set environment variables at startup/system boot?
[08:53] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: tar zcvf test.tar.gz `ls -A1`
[08:53] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: did that, it started to zip the folder, then folders around it
[08:53] <neil> @Action Parsnip1 Still no luck, but to be honest I'm really not sure if I have did it correctly
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> rd1089: you can add them to ~/.bashrc
[08:54] <neil> I am totally new to anything linux and these are the kind of things I hope to be learning
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> neil: if you tab complete my name its easier, and it will highlight your text
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you will learn
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you need to get that text file as it is in the link i gave, then reboot. As long as you have the guest additions installed correctly then it will be fine
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you needed to execute the .run file on the guest additions CD for your architecture
[08:55] <zaphod_home> hi, i've a problem with my whole system... it's a quad-core. when i'm doing heavy hdd load (copy GBs from sda1 to sdb1) systemload is going to 3.8 and i cant use the system any more. is there possibilty to speed this up?
[08:55] <fwaokda> I just activateded the Restricted Drivers Ubuntu listed and my machine is running "sluggish" like its skipping. I tried to go to display settings and check the settings but all that comes up is the display settings window with a horizontal gereen bar inside it. Anyone know anything I can try???
[08:56] <staticRails> when I login the system takes me back to the login screen again and I receive the following error when i login in failafe terminal: : "An error occured while loading or saving config info for evolution-alarm-notify..."
[08:56] <staticRails> is there any idea?
[08:57] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Not sure why. Here's how I tested it: http://pastie.org/546527
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: does it do it for all users?
[08:57] <Slart> zaphod_home: there's ionice
[08:57] <neil> ActionParsnip1: I did the run for the additions and I have got the text file and I'm just gonna reboot see if that sorts it. Thank you and I will be back to et you know if I am up and running or not
[08:57] <staticRails> yes
[08:57] <Slart> zaphod_home: but I think it has to be run for each copy command
[08:57] <anaxa> Greetings
[08:58] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: yes. I created a new user using command line. the result is same.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: nice one
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you log into command line then run: startx   is it ok?
[08:58] <rd1089> ActionParsnip1, i was looking for something that does not require the user to login
[08:59] <anaxa> After long search and digging i end up here for help with pulsaudio (in kde4). i keep having problems to disable the annoying POKE sound of some applications.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> rd1089: you can enable autologin. not very secure but its available
[09:00] <zaphod_home> hm, ionice doesn't change performance :-(
[09:00] <zaphod_home> but thanks. didn no it
[09:00] <rd1089> ActionParsnip1, no i don;t want to enable autologin
[09:01] <Slart> zaphod_home: but it should make the computer usable while it is copying, if I understand that command correctly
[09:01] <rd1089> ActionParsnip1, i just want to be able to set env variables at startup.. to enable a program written in c work properly
[09:01] <corey_> Hi, I'm currently on a live cd and I have 9.04 installed on my disk. The issue is a new version of libglib2.0-0 was compiled which broke a symbol causing 90% of the applications to stop working (xserver being the important one). So I'm left at the terminal and I'm trying to revert to the old version of libglib2.0-0. Any helpful pointers?
[09:02] <dsotr> rd1089: you can put the line in /etc/rc.local so
[09:02] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: "Fatal server error" server is already active for display 0"
[09:02] <zaphod_home> yes... should ^^
[09:02] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Did that help?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> rd1089: you could add them to /etc/rc.local
[09:02] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: still did the same thing - probably OS X's quirkyness
[09:02] <DaveTarmac> thanks for the help anyway
[09:02] <zaphod_home> ionice -c3 -p10998 w/ 10998 is the PID of cp
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: try: sudo killall gdm    first
[09:03] <corey_> How can I remove a package without uninstalling it's dependencies?
[09:03] <DaveTarmac> I'm being lame now and trying to use CyberDuck's extract feature :(
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[09:03] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Oh! Yeah, OSX != Ubuntu. They have a different version of tar, so you'll get different behaviour.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: the deps will stay
[09:03] <neil> ActionParsnip1: Nope, still no joy. To be honest, I'm feeling a bit crap because I feel like I'm bugging people, I feel like I should know the basics before I start asking for help but I can't start learning the basic until I can actually use my full screen.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: to remove the deps run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[09:04] <Slart> corey_: apt-get remove/purge won't uninstall the dependencies
[09:04] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: yeah, I figured that much - thought I'd take a gamble though, how different can a tar command be?
[09:04] <mjkl> Hi.  I have a dual XP setup (Home 32bit & Pro 64bit).  I also want to install 9.04.  However, it only seems to recognise one XP install and want to put 9.04 after this, not at the end of the disk as required.  Any ideas?!
[09:04] <DaveTarmac> that little exercise showed me!
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> neil: its all learning dude, dont sweat it
[09:04] <Veratyr9> is there a program similar to netstumbler for linux?  i'm in an apartment that gets free wifi from the landlord, signal sucks and need to play around with the antenna watching the signal change in real time (rather than the overall average that the standard icon displays)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> neil: maybe someone in #vbox can help
[09:04] <neil> ActionParnsip1: thanks for understaning
[09:04] <Neroon> @neil that's why people are here, to help and getting help
[09:04] <corey_> Great. Could I chroot to a different disk and run the package manager on that?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> neil: as you use the OS you will get better at it
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> neil: just like i'm sure you are with microsoft products
[09:05] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Quite a bit. BSD vs GNU and all that. But looking at the man files for OSX ls and tar, I don't see a reason why you'd be having that problem.
[09:05] <neil> I'll give that a try. Thanks for at least for trying to solve my issue.
[09:05] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: probably one of those days
[09:06] <neil> thats part of the reason i thought id give linux a try i was getting bored of windows
[09:06] <corey_> Is it possible to modify packages on disk when I'm running from livecd?
[09:06] <jamiewan> neil: stay with it im new too and will never go back
[09:06] <neil> Anyway, thanks for the help. See ya.
[09:06] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Well, you can fight it and find a way to bend the shell to your will, or you can accept the default and live with the parent directory being in the tarball.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: you can install and uninstall packages like an installed system
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: your "disk" space is limited to how much ram you have
[09:06] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: a lengthy error...  the last line is : "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[09:07] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: You could always extract it in /tmp, then move the files where you need them.
[09:07] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: I'll just live with it
[09:07] <corey_> ActionParsnip1: I am talking about a physical disk installed with ubuntu
[09:07] <DaveTarmac> more than one way to skin a cat
[09:07] <Slart> ActionParsnip1: I think he means "can I install stuff to the installed system on disk while using a live cd"
[09:07] <corey_> ActionParsnip1: this ubuntu has a broken symbol, I want to replace the package while on the livecd
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: ok, whats the output of:  ls -l ~/.Xauthority     ?
[09:08] <Slart> corey_: how many packages are you looking at reinstalling? just one?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: you can chroot to the installed system
[09:08] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: anothe line which i think may be useful: "failed to initialize GEM. Falling back to classic."
[09:08] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Quite so. Best of luck to you.
[09:08] <corey_> Slart: yes, one.
[09:08] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: thanks again
[09:08] <staticRails> the owner is root root
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: thats why
[09:08] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: the owner is root root
[09:08] <corey_> ActionParsnip1: and once chroot'd any dpkg command will effect that system?
[09:08] <Slart> corey_: either use chroot.. or just download the package and install it in recovery mode
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: have you been running   sudo gedit  and/or   sudo nautilus   ?
[09:09] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: when?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: when you had a desktop boot
[09:10] <corey_> Slart: actually, the package I want to overwrite with is from the livecd, where could I find the .deb?
[09:10] <Slart> corey_: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <corey_> Slart: so the packages on the livecd is obfuscated?
[09:10] <Slart> corey_: I'm not sure of the structure of a live cd.. it should be on it somewhere.. but I have no idea where
[09:11] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: I think it has crashed during the last night (when I was asleep in front of display.... lol)
[09:11] <fwaokda> my xorg is running at 100% after installing the restricted drivers... is there a way i can end the process in ubuntu until I can download a fix I've found?
[09:11] <shaullx> is there a way to read my BIOS settings in linux?
[09:11] <shaullx> output them to a txt file i dont know something
[09:12] <ravindu> i;
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you run:   whoami    does it say root or your user name?
[09:12] <staticRails> username
[09:12] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: username
[09:12] <shaullx> anyone? please
[09:12] <shaullx> that important :(
[09:13] <ravindu> Is that true Ubuntu jaunty does not support compiz fusion
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: ok then you have borked your ownerships. most likely by launching gui apps with sudo instead of gksudo
[09:13] <Shazburg> fwaokda: CTRL+ALT+F1 will drop you to another terminal and you can login, then drop to runlevel 3 from there.
[09:13] <Shazburg> shaullx: Nope.
[09:13] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: don't know if you're interested, but it turns out that in an archive, OS X creates an __MACOSX directory with a mirror of the archive inside it, funnily enough with ._ prefixed to the filenames
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER
[09:13] <Slart> shaullx: I have no idea.. possibly you could get to the cmos somehow and download it.. but then you'd have to interpret it.. sounds hard and, honestly, kind of meaningless.. what are you trying to do?
[09:13] <Shazburg> shaullx: That sort of thing is up to your motherboard manufacturer.
[09:13] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: definitely you are right... I hadn't used gksudo in my life... :o
[09:14] <fwaokda> Shazburg, I was with you until the runlevel3 part... is that a command I just type in?
[09:14] <spikemcc> hi someone can help me make a shortcut to lauch a python script (fof game)
[09:14] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Fancy old Apple and their directory litter.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: sudo is for command line commands ONLY, like apt-get, cp, mv, ln etc
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: gksudo is for GUI apps, like gedit, nautilus etc
[09:15] <Shazburg> fwaokda: You can. "sudo runlevel 3" should work.
[09:15] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: ... thx. how can it be fixed?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you use sudo for gui apps it doesnt set up the environment correctly and you get garbaged ownerships just like you are seeing
[09:15] <fwaokda> Shazburg, says "unkown"
[09:15] <OpenBluntSurgry> is there anyway to install ubuntu from live CD and keep my music I have now?
[09:15] <fwaokda> Shazburg, unknown rather
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: the command I gave, to chown your files back to your user
[09:16] <Shazburg> fwaokda: runlevel 3 means most of your daemons will run (if they're configured to do so), you'll have networking, and X won't start.
[09:16] <Shazburg> fwaokda: One sec.
[09:16] <fwaokda> Shazburg, seemed to do the trick though after alt f7'n back in thanks
[09:16] <Slart> !runlevel
[09:16] <mjkl> Hi.  I have a dual XP setup (Home 32bit & Pro 64bit).  I want to install 9.04 after XP64 (40GB free) but partitioner want to resize XP and install in the middle somewhere :-/ is that normal?
[09:16] <Slart> Shazburg: I think ubuntu only uses runlevel 2 and 5
[09:16] <Slart> Shazburg: it's different from.. say Debian
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> mjkl: if thats where the unallocated space is then its fine
[09:17] <ravindu> Is that true Ubuntu jaunty does not support compiz fusion??
[09:17] <chartoin> Hi, I have an issue and the day has been really bad, can someone help me with ubuntu+windows MBR issue?
[09:17] <Slart> !runlevels | Shazburg
[09:18] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:
[09:18] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: new problem
[09:18] <ravindu> compiz -fusion no glx found
[09:18] <OpenBluntSurgry> chartoin whats the problem
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: if you install compizconfig-settings-manager then you will get compiz
[09:18] <chartoin> thanks for replying OpenBluntSurgry.
[09:18] <chartoin> Here is the problem
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: then you need to install video drivers
[09:18] <chartoin> I had windows/ubuntu 7.10 dual boot
[09:18] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:  The last line of the lengthy error is: "xinint: connection to X server lost"
[09:18] <Shazburg> Well how about that.
[09:18] <ravindu> i installed compiz setting manager and compiz icon
[09:19] <mjkl> ActionParsnip1: XP home & XP64 should be contiguous though?  With 40GB free after XP64.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: if you dont have 3d accelleration, you can't run compiz
[09:19] <chartoin> something happened to windows ntfs filesystem and it wouldnt boot, I put in the win xp installation disk but it wouldnt boot
[09:19] <spikemcc> need help to complete frets on fire install by source with a mod
[09:19] <ravindu> i install all nvvida drivers
[09:19] <chartoin> after the press any key to continue...the screen went blank
[09:20] <ravindu> compiz worked in intrepid not for jaunty now
[09:20] <Shazburg> fwaokda: Did you see that about the runlevels in Ubuntu?
[09:20] <OpenBluntSurgry> what bootloader
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> mjkl: if they are seperate boots it doesnt matter, the partitions for each individual boot should be contiguous
[09:20] <joejc> is there a channel for people that want to put linux on there routers?
[09:20] <spikemcc> ravindu try the drivers directly from nvidia
[09:20] <chartoin> I searched for this (googled) and found out that its an MBR problem
[09:20] <indus> who knows about tv tuner cards
[09:20] <fwaokda> Shazburg, thanks! :)
[09:20] <chartoin> the bootloader is GRUB
[09:20] <Shazburg> fwaokda: So just ignore what I said about runlevels. Glad you're working better.
[09:20] <ravindu> yes I tried drivers from nvidia also
[09:20] <OpenBluntSurgry> joejc checkout dd-wrt.com
[09:20] <spikemcc> dd-wrt joejc maybe
[09:20] <indus> who knows about tv tuner cards
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: if you run:   gksudo nvidia-settings   does it show the driver version and not show any error messages?
[09:20] <watino> Please someone: what's the package to install to get Hardware Driver Manager?
[09:20] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, the bootloader is GRUB
[09:20] <fwaokda> Shazburg, yes thanks
[09:20] <mjkl> ActionParsnip1: ok, thanks!
[09:20] <spikemcc> but not all routers works ...
[09:21] <indus> watino: its already installed, its called jockey-gtk
[09:21] <ravindu> it shows no glx found with compiz -fusion command
[09:21] <spikemcc> indus If you find help for that I need also
[09:21] <jfj1> hola alguien escribe en espanol
[09:21] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, also I accedentally wiped my MBR using dd command and then got it back using the gpart command using knoppix live CD
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: does nvida-settings look ok?
[09:21] <indus> spikemcc: what help you need
[09:21] <ravindu> yes I'm sure
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> !es | jfj1
[09:21] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, this is what happened today
[09:22] <jfj1> grasias
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: can you use a pastebin and give us the output of:   compiz --replace
[09:22] <watino> Thank you Indus
[09:22] <indus> watino: welcome
[09:22] <spikemcc> for tv card I have to know how to make it work, mine as a driver included in the kernel
[09:22] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, I found that when I wiped the MBR, the windows setup worked...but it didn't before or after
[09:22] <ravindu> not now I'm in office now any sugestions?
[09:23] <CliffS> Morning. Odd problem, wonder if anyone's seen it. 9.04 with metacity & FGLRX works fine BUT, on login if I drag a window on the screen, the entire machine crashes. After a few minutes, I can drag as much as I like, this only happens just after logging in.
[09:23] <indus> spikemcc: my tv card works with tvtime ,but myth tv wont tune as it doesnt have country specific frequency,tvtime is smart just tuned everything
[09:23] <L33tHaxor666> Hey peoples what is good
[09:23] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:  the problem is not solved... when I changed the owner to my user. but when I try to login it takes me back to the login screen again...
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: ok, but you should be the owner of all files in your home folder
[09:23] <L33tHaxor666> I was wondering if anyone knows anything about widesrceen formatting
[09:24] <L33tHaxor666> i have spent the last 3 hours trying to figure this stuff out..
[09:24] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1, can you help me?
[09:24] <spikemcc> indus ok I will try when I got it back I lended it for a while to help a friend on vista 64 (outch the troll)
[09:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: now is that true?if you install something as root, its not the case
[09:24] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1: can you help me?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> indus: all installs are as root
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | chartoin
[09:24] <L33tHaxor666> damn u ubuntu
[09:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: third party installs do it sometims
[09:25] <Revo> ActionParsnip1: sorry for the slow reply, echo $http_proxy does indeed return the proxy
[09:25] <ravindu> I will try what is your suggestion to do further?
[09:25] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1: windows setup goes blank ofter "press any key to continue" because of MBR issue
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> indus: then the file will not be in any other place other than home as users only have write access to their home folder in a standard install
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> chartoin: ask in ##windows then
[09:26] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Hell of a nick you have there. What isn't working?
[09:26] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i remember when i installed quake4,it gave root permissions to quake4 folder in home, i changed it back though
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666>  well i dont have any widescreen resolution
[09:26] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1: thank you.
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666> and i cant seem to find the right cmds
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> indus: the home folder is made for user data, you probably ran the installer as root and then told it to install to your user area
[09:26] <neil> ActionParnsip1: Just to let you know I now have a full screen ubuntu. Also, to give you a bit of a laugh. The reason for it not working cos some numpty didn't realise that the update manager hadn't been ran.
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666> i have an i965
[09:26] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: What resolution are you going for?
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666> vaio fz240e
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> umm
[09:27] <indus> ActionParsnip1: yep
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> that wide one
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> lol
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> 1240x800
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> that one is wide right
[09:27] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> ?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> indus: then the crated files will be owned by root as the app running was running as root. if you'd ran it as yourself the files would be owned b you
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> im newbie from windows
[09:28] <indus> ActionParsnip1: ya i know,but i couldrun the game just fine
[09:28] <L33tHaxor666> i ran all the updates
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> indus: maybe it was chmodded a+x ;)
[09:28] <L33tHaxor666> have new spiffy splash screens and everything
[09:28] <indus> ActionParsnip1:no it already had those permissions
[09:29] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:  I changed the owner of the home directory using -R option... the problem persists.
[09:29] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Please preface my name when you write back. Get's crowded in here. Okay, well you need to know what your monitor's max resolution is first.
[09:29] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i had to change ownership of hidden quake folder to me as nvidia wont load drivers
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> indus: exactly, so although owned by root, every man and his dog has access
[09:29] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: let me look it up
[09:30] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: Yesterday I tried to install my vga driver. it is onboard and my mainboard is intel
[09:30] <indus> staticRails: well,i believe your driver is automatically installed ,why would you need to install it again?
[09:30] <neil> Now that I'm up and running I was wondering if someone could recommend a good place to start learning about linux/ubuntu from scratch.
[09:31] <longsleep> anyone knows how device mapper table entries are added on boot up (i ignore a certain device in udev but its still added to the table)
[09:31] <indus> neil: use the forums ,its great
[09:31] <L33tHaxor666> kk
[09:31] <Shazburg> neil: http://gentoo.org
[09:31] <staticRails> indus: Just to upgrade it or... I don't know...
[09:31] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: 15.4" WXGA LCD XBRITE ECO (Resolution: 1280 x 800 pixels
[09:31] <indus> neil: also,google is great
[09:32] <staticRails> indus: any idea about my problem?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> neil: as is ask.com  msn.com  yahoo.com
[09:32] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Are you running non-free video drivers? ie NVidia or ATI?
[09:32] <L33tHaxor666> umm
[09:32] <indus> staticRails: could you tell me the problem again please
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: how would i tell
[09:33] <Neroon> neil: or try ubuntuforums.org
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: i have an i965, so i dont think so
[09:33] <neil> Indus: Spot on. Thanks. Same to you Shazburg.  And ActionParsnip1  and Neroon. I'm now gonna try and learn the basics so i don't feel as much as a numpty. :)
[09:33] <ravindu> Is there any people who work in ubuntu server edition to get xen and backup like solution on it?
[09:33] <neil> Laters all
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> the screen looks good, so got black bars on the sides
[09:33] <staticRails> indus: when I login ... the I am taken back to the login screen again ....
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> . just*
[09:34] <indus> staticRails: hmm difficult to diagnose,can u paste the output of dmesg
[09:34] <linuxboy> hi, I have a strange problem with the gnome panel. I set up everything in the position that I want, but after a few reboots it changes order. how do I fix this?
[09:34] <staticRails> indus: I have both gnome and kde... it happens in both of them
[09:34] <spikemcc> someone can help me to convert a folder that come from a source to put installed on usr like normal apps with a shortcut on the gnome menu ?
[09:35] <staticRails> indus: what is dmesg?
[09:35] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Go to "System > Preferences > Display" What do you see?
[09:35] <fwaokda_> I finally got my restricted drivers for my display to cooperate... only thing left is my main display in display properties doesn't show it's max resolution of 1920(?)x1080... anyone have any ideas on how i can fix this? I am using dual monitors btw and the second monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050 (which is what they are both currently set at) ???
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[09:35] <indus> staticRails: its aa bunch of messages the kernel spits out on loading the OS,what loaded what didnot errors etc
[09:35] <spikemcc> the app work as a python script ...
[09:36] <Neroon> staticRails: anything in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> 1024x768 (4:3)
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg:
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> :p
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: you can use xorg.conf to specify weird resolutions
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> thats the highest
[09:37] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: And it won't let you select the resolution you want, correct?
[09:37] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, is there a howto somewhere that will explain to me how to edit it?
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: nope
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: thats the highest
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: if you search round the web you can find example files
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> i looked online and found out about xorg
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: sec
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> but i dont know what to type
[09:37] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, ok ty
[09:38] <pawan> hi
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> i know dos
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> lol
[09:38] <pawan> vuze cant update
[09:38] <staticRails> indus: the Xorg.0.log contains a very lengthy text
[09:38] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Open Terminal, and type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf". Copy the output and pastie it (http://pastie.org)
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> cd...
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/f16fa7b2f
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> let me try that
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: i need to specify a lot in mine as I use an old CRT monitor
[09:38] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, ahh ok
[09:38] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[09:39] <indus> staticRails: yeah iam like a driver who always opens the bonnet and looks under the hood,even though i dont know what iam looking for
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: so i have to specify refresh rates etc so I can get a full display
[09:39] <ravindu> why it shows glx not found when $compiz -fusion
[09:39] <indus> staticRails: but do paste both dmesg and xorg.log
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: as my monitor doesnt talk back to my video card when its asked
[09:39] <pawan> update directory /usr/share/vuze isint writable
[09:39] <b1n42y> hi all, cant run k3b in normal user but able to via su, throws cannot create directory errors via normal user,suggestions?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> pawan: does it exist?
[09:39] <indus> ActionParsnip1: crt's are not old :D I use a 17 inch one
[09:40] <Boohbah> Ramonster: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:40] <pawan> yes
[09:40] <hermitmode> Hello
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: its not a fancy flat screen though like all the cool kids have
[09:40] <indus> !who
[09:40] <Ramonster> Boohbah, got that 1
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: ;)
[09:40] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i need a big lcd soon as they are as good as CRT's now
[09:40] <fwaokda_> What do i do to fix an error about a public key after adding two lines into my software sources?
[09:41] <L33tHaxor666> SHAZburg: thats not working
[09:41] <pawan> i cant update vuze
[09:41] <indus> ActionParsnip1: also,IPTV is on the horizon in india, and i got a tv tuner card installed,so thats great
[09:41] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: did u type-o
[09:41] <staticRails> indus: it is on another computer... that doesn't working and i can just work in command line. it is not coonected to the net. so I can't paste the messages.
[09:41] <indus> staticRails: thats bad
[09:41] <L33tHaxor666> cat /etc/X11/xorg.con
[09:41] <indus> staticRails: which intel driver did you install
[09:41] <ravindu> ActionParsnip1-why it shows glx not found when $compiz -fusion
[09:42] <L33tHaxor666> config?
[09:42] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" with an "f"
[09:42] <staticRails> indus:during the system load... I just receive one fail.. which I think that is normal
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: can you put the output of the command on a pastebin so we can see it
[09:42] <Neroon> L33tHaxor666: xorg.conf
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: compiz --replace
[09:42] <staticRails> indus:  that is for kvm module.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | ravindu
[09:43] <b1n42y> pawan: i think vuze requires write permissions on a certain directory, find out which one and change permissions
[09:43] <ravindu> I'm not with my ubuntu machine now even I can not launch xbmc It asks for OpenGL support
[09:43] <indus> ravindu: also in terminal  have you done .... glxinfo | grep render
[09:43] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[09:43] <Flannel> L33tHaxor666: X11 not x11
[09:43] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" with an "f"
[09:43] <L33tHaxor666> cps matter
[09:43] <indus> staticRails: i dont know what is kvm,btw which intel driver did you install? what onboard card is it?
[09:44] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Always.
[09:44] <staticRails> indus: the command i ran is "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 4f191a5a8844c542"
[09:44] <indus> staticRails: huh ,are you using a PPA?
[09:44] <ravindu> thanx indus , ActionParsnip1 I'll try and come back with more details.
[09:44] <staticRails> indus: the mainboard is dg31pr
[09:44] <L33tHaxor666> http://pastie.org/546552
[09:44] <L33tHaxor666> wow pastie is cool
[09:44] <ravindu> This Channel is great my second time.
[09:45] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: http://pastie.org/546552
[09:45] <b1n42y> so how do i give k3b permissions for creating folders
[09:45] <b1n42y> -s
[09:45] <indus> staticRails: can i see dmesg output pelase
[09:45] <indus> please
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: depends where they are to be made
[09:45] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: home folder
[09:46] <indus> staticRails: seems like a good mobo for linux
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: then if you run it as you then it can make folders, as you are the owner and the app is running as you
[09:46] <leaf-sheep> I take it that cryptsetup (crypto_LUKS) does not work on KDE4? I plugged in the external HDD. It shows up. I toggle the HDD and it prompts me for password. I type in. Nothing. Repeat. Nothing. Repeat.
[09:46] <L33tHaxor666> (>")>  UBUNTU  <("<)
[09:47] <staticRails> indus: I haven't pastebinit installed and also am not able to install it now. coz I don't have any connection on the ubuntu pc...
[09:47] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: well im logged in as myself non root run k3b and it fails at above task, i run it as root and its happy
[09:47] <DVA5912> anyone know why google earth is so slow? It wasnt this slow in windows
[09:47] <indus> !paste | staticRails
[09:47] <DVA5912> Its it the opengl thing?
[09:47] <indus> staticRails: aah where is that pc now/?
[09:47] <L33tHaxor666> they need something better then xorg i think
[09:48] <indus> anyone knows anything about lirc with tvtime?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: launch k3b from terminal, see what is output
[09:48] <DVA5912> wow my cpu just went ape wall because of google earth
[09:48] <indus> ActionParsnip1: b1n42y he probably installed from some where else
[09:48] <staticRails> indus: i am using another pc now. the problematic pc is here to.. but not connected
[09:49] <indus> DVA5912: Well, google earth freezes for me
[09:49] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: already done that, thats why Im saying it fails creating folders in home
[09:49] <yurikoles> how to use amd64 flash in azureus
[09:49] <L33tHaxor666> the i965 is made nvidia i think
[09:49] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, here is my xorg.conf file... I don't see where to put my resolution though -- http://pastebin.com/m4c48e25f -- I thought perhaps I just need to change the virtual resolution thats there but what would be the virtual resolution for 1920x1080 & 1650x1050 ?
[09:49] <yurikoles> in amd64 azureus ofcoourse
[09:49] <indus> staticRails: hmm press ctl-alt-f1 in that pc and go to console
[09:49] <DVA5912> indus: hmmm. This is just one more reason for me to have to go back to windows. i use google earth alot
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: ok try this: ls -la ~/ | grep root | less
[09:49] <indus> DVA5912: yeah why u a spy? :P
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: do any files show?
[09:49] <staticRails> indus: I am there
[09:49]  * DVA5912 whistles 
[09:50] <indus> staticRails: what happens when you type startx
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: line 34 in that pastebin, if you look at mine you can compare
[09:50] <staticRails> indus: "server is already active for display 0"
[09:51] <indus> staticRails: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:51] <L33tHaxor666> oops
[09:51] <c_nick> is there a community for finance n stock market oriented stuff
[09:51] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: 2 - Adobe reader.desktop and .kde
[09:51] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, you don't have a part in yours labeled, "Viewport" that i see
[09:52] <staticRails> indus: stopping ... [ok]
[09:52] <moymoy> hey all.. anyone awakee?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: its not that EXACT line, its just in that subsection
[09:52] <chartoin> does ubuntu 9.04 have a command line version of choosing monitor resolution and frequency?
[09:52] <indus> staticRails: ok now type startx
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> chartoin: xrandr
[09:52] <moymoy> anyone here using the nfs-kernel-server?
[09:52] <indus> staticRails: sorry, that same command but now say start
[09:52] <indus> staticRails: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:52] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, your subsection only has "Depth 24" in it...
[09:53] <staticRails> indus: I typed: startx....  halted..
[09:53] <DVA5912> so just to be clear directX is totaly un avalible in ubuntu?
[09:53] <dsotr> chartoin: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <indus> staticRails: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:53] <chartoin> also ubuntu 8.10 installation live CD doesnt work in my pc...I get the ubuntu loading screen and then it restarts
[09:53] <L33tHaxor666> you guys got my hopes up
[09:53] <staticRails> indus: let me reset it.
[09:54] <chartoin> dsotr, that command has only keyboard setting starting from 8.10
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: ok here's a better one: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-847670.html
[09:55] <progre55> hi people! I have just downloaded some fonts, but how to install them? :) they a just a bunch of .ttf files..
[09:55] <staticRails> indus: I have the login screen now
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> !fonts | progre55
[09:55] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, edited it gonna go try it out brb
[09:56] <Ademan> is there a command or something to tell if my laptop is acpi or apm? (can it be both? basically i want to know if i can get rid of apmd from my init)
[09:56] <L33tHaxor666> OK i need xorg helps
[09:56] <moymoy> anyone here using the nfs-kernel-server?
[09:56] <L33tHaxor666> they is xorg not have a config vi?
[09:56] <staticRails> indus: I stopped the gdm and the restarted it using the command you gave me... now I have the login screen
[09:57] <b1n42y> firefox 50-66 % cpu usage with 60 tabs boooo
[09:57] <L33tHaxor666> why*
[09:57] <L33tHaxor666> I WANT CONFIG VI
[09:57] <progre55> ActionParsnip1, thanks )
[09:57] <Cybertinus> hi
[09:57] <staticRails> actionparsnip
[09:58] <dsotr> chartoin: mmm, then try  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg :)
[09:58] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: r tu there ?
[09:58] <L33tHaxor666> kk
[09:58] <b1n42y> (18:56:15) ActionParsnip1 left the room.
[09:58] <Petein> I have a directory with many other directories with images(jpg). How can i create a dir in each directory with the name Images and put all the jpgs there?
[09:58] <pawan> hi
[09:58] <Cybertinus> I'm looking at the blueman page at launchpad.net. But I can't seam to find the URL and stuff to add Blueman to my repositories so I can install it. Where on that page do I find the URL for synaptic?
[09:58] <pawan> vuze cant update
[09:58] <pawan> directory isint writable
[09:59] <b1n42y> pawan: make it writable
[09:59] <pawan> how
[09:59] <staticRails> indus: r u there??
[09:59] <moymoy> pawan: getting vuze to update isn't worth the work.. the version in the repos is out of date.. just get vuze from their website
[09:59] <L33tHaxor666> dsotr: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[09:59] <L33tHaxor666> ??
[09:59] <b1n42y> pawan: well i go gksu nautilus in terminal then properties
[09:59] <chartoin> dsotr, here is the wierd thing. My ubuntu 8.10 installatio cd worked only once a long while ago when i didn't know about the command you agve me and I gave up and installed 7.10 instead. Now the SAME 8.10 live cd doesnt work..
[10:00] <b1n42y> pawan: but im sure theres a chmod command for it
[10:00] <L33tHaxor666> root?
[10:00] <dsotr> L33tHaxor666: yep
[10:00] <chartoin> dsotr, it restarts after it enters the ubuntu loading screen
[10:00] <L33tHaxor666> dsotr: how do i run it as root?
[10:01] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: sudo
[10:01] <b1n42y> pawan:  moymoy has a point i'd even go getdeb
[10:01] <chartoin> L33tHaxor666,prefix your command by "sudo "
[10:01] <dsotr> chartoin: on the same machine you mean?
[10:01] <dsotr> L33tHaxor666: type sudo in front of it :)
[10:01] <chartoin> dsotr, yes on the same machine
[10:01] <b1n42y> pawan: as in www.getbed
[10:01] <pawan> ok
[10:02] <b1n42y> pawan: erm www.getbed.something
[10:02] <b1n42y> OMG
[10:02] <b1n42y> GETDEB
[10:02] <moymoy> b1n42y: rofl!
[10:02] <moymoy> getdeb.net
[10:02] <L33tHaxor666> chartoin: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[10:02] <L33tHaxor666>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090715050154
[10:02] <dsotr> chartoin: I'm puzzled, It shouldn0e behave like that
[10:02] <moymoy> i wish they would finish playdeb.net already!
[10:02] <spikemcc> how do you put dual-screens settings on hardy ?
[10:03] <chartoin> dsotr, frankly i am puzzled too. I dont know what to do...
[10:03] <staticRails> indus: .... I am waiting...
[10:03] <dsotr> chartoin: try to check the xorg.conf file while you are running the live cd
[10:03] <L33tHaxor666> i hope ur not talking about me
[10:03] <indus> staticRails: sorry was away
[10:03] <staticRails> indus: nop
[10:03] <chartoin> dsotr, I can only do that if it actually loads the live cd
[10:03] <L33tHaxor666> k
[10:03] <moymoy> anyone here have NFS exports on their desktops?
[10:04] <dsotr> L33tHaxor666: that's what the command is supposed to do, overwrites the previous xorg configuration
[10:04] <staticRails> indus: thx for comming bakc... I was disappinted ...
[10:04] <indus> staticRails: do a safe login ,check options at left corner
[10:04] <spikemcc> ouou ?
[10:04] <L33tHaxor666> ok
[10:04] <L33tHaxor666> whats sudo mean?
[10:04] <indus> !SUDO | L33tHaxor666
[10:04] <chartoin> L33tHaxor666, super user do
[10:04] <Neroon> substitute user do afaik
[10:04] <chartoin> probably
[10:04] <Neroon> L33tHaxor666:  substitute user do afaik
[10:05] <L33tHaxor666> wtf
[10:05] <ikonia> L33tHaxor666: please control your language
[10:05] <L33tHaxor666> +
[10:05] <indus> !language | L33tHaxor666
[10:05] <staticRails> indus: failsafe gnome or terminal?
[10:05] <indus> :)
[10:05] <chartoin> L33tHaxor666, dont get confused..it just means do the command as a super user
[10:05] <indus> staticRails: failsafe
[10:06] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: If that reconfig doesn't work, here is an xorg conf for you: http://pastie.org/546562
[10:06] <indus> chartoin: use gksu for graphical apps and sudo for command line
[10:06] <crimzor> How do I add a certificate authority to the list of trusted certificate authorities in Ubuntu? I need to have my entire server (not just the web browser) to accept my self signed cert.
[10:06] <spikemcc> hey how do I can put dual screens setting on hardy
[10:06] <dsotr> chartoin: I don't remember if you can start the live cd in non-graphics mode
[10:06] <staticRails> indus: I have to failsafe options: failsafe GNOME and failsafe Terminal
[10:06] <indus> staticRails: falsafe gnome :)
[10:06] <spikemcc> Ati software don't do it as I like ...
[10:06] <chartoin> dsotr, what should I be looking for in the xorg.conf?
[10:07] <staticRails> indus: halted
[10:07] <Neroon> spikemcc: welcome to the club ... had some troubles the last 4 days with ati
[10:07] <spikemcc> and resolution app don't work at all for the 2nd screen
[10:07] <indus> dsotr: chartoin it can be started in safe graphics mode, the alternate cd installer gives you text mode installation
[10:07] <chartoin> spikemcc, ATI and Linux are not friends
[10:07] <b1n42y> !dualscreens
[10:07] <Neroon> spikemcc: but it is possible
[10:07] <gabkdlly> spikemcc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:07] <L33tHaxor666> wow
[10:07] <L33tHaxor666> SHAZBURG
[10:07] <b1n42y> !dualmonitors
[10:07] <spikemcc> Ati work perfect on 8.04 LTS man
[10:08] <L33tHaxor666> now...how do i enter that
[10:08] <spikemcc> don't touch a non LTS ubuntu that's all
[10:08] <indus> staticRails: hmm
[10:08] <Neroon> spikemcc: I do have 8.04 here and it was a pain you know where
[10:08] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: how would i put this into the xorg
[10:09] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: But from the looks of it, you are going to need a lot more help than we can provide. Linux isn't for the feint of heart. While Ubuntu does it's best to make the experience as safe and friendly as possible, you have the misfortune of using a somewhat unusual laptop for your first venture. Be ready to read alot and see if you can find a local LUG (Linux Users Group)
[10:09] <indus> staticRails: have you done any messing aroundwiththat pc?
[10:09] <Andorin> Muting from the keyboard no longer works, even when I change the shortcut. Help?
[10:09] <richardcavell> why is anyone using a non-current release? The only good reasons are if you're on non-Intel hardware, you have an old computer, or you are doing something that's mission-critical
[10:09] <chartoin> dsotr, what should I be looking for in xorg.conf?
[10:10] <staticRails> indus: the only thing I think may caused problem is installing vga drvieer...
[10:10] <spikemcc> use the ati catalyst 9.4 and it work for me
[10:10] <Neroon> spikemcc: so you want 2 separate X on each monitor?
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> I just need to know how to enter this last config
[10:10] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: You can use whatever editor you choose. gedit will likely be easiest. Run "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig". Then run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the new config in.
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> COME ON...come on
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> ahh
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> like regedit
[10:10] <indus> staticRails: how did u install it if you dont have a net conection
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> ?
[10:10] <staticRails> indus: when I use failsafe terminal I am able to run firefox nautilus and so on...
[10:10] <staticRails> I had...
[10:10] <dsotr> chartoin: check if the configuration differs from the one you've got working on 7.10
[10:10] <indus> staticRails: firefox from a terminal? how
[10:10] <spikemcc> just do all the things of the doc even the stuff for troubleshooting
[10:11] <chartoin> dsotr, okay I will
[10:11] <staticRails> indus: everything was go ... till the morning.
[10:11] <Neroon> spikemcc: sure, use the 9.4 with a x1650. And good luck, since they dont work together
[10:11] <staticRails> indus: failsafe terminal
[10:11] <spikemcc> just the max resolution of each screen will be enough
[10:11] <indus> staticRails: why exactly did you install the intel vga?
[10:11] <staticRails> indus: when I use failsafe terminal the xwindo is loaded..
[10:11] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Your impatience and petulance is wearing. There is no regedit. Everything you know about Windows: chuck it.
[10:12] <Neroon> Shazburg: he's kinda annoying ...
[10:12] <spikemcc> x1650 but I got an ati readeon xpress 1150 256Mo laptop
[10:12] <Boohbah> Shazburg: what about gconf?
[10:12] <Boohbah> L33tHaxor666: http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/
[10:12] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: dont worry, ill grow on you (like fugus)
[10:12] <staticRails> indus: I had noting im my hardware list. taught it may be better to install it...
[10:12] <Andorin> Muting from the keyboard no longer works, even when I change the shortcut. Help?
[10:13] <L33tHaxor666> n
[10:13] <Shazburg> Boohbah: his monitor is kinda funky and doesn't auto-detect.
[10:13] <grawity> Shazburg: registry = gconf. shortcuts = launchers. taskbar = panels. and so on ;)
[10:13] <indus> staticRails: intel drivers are open source, hardware drivers only lists proprietary devices
[10:13] <staticRails> indus: I had no problem with it.
[10:13] <joejc> could i use a modem to connect to dsl?
[10:13] <grawity> joejc: only if the modem supports DSL.
[10:13] <dsotr> !search audio*
[10:13] <Shazburg> Maybe I'm just in the wrong channel.
[10:13] <indus> staticRails: just do this when you have internet, sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg-intel
[10:13] <joejc> how much would one that does cost?
[10:13] <staticRails> indus: a very expensive experience...
[10:14] <indus> staticRails: just hook this internet to that pc and do it
[10:14] <staticRails> indus: is it possible to have internet when i am in termianl...
[10:14] <Paddy_NI> staticRails: no reason why not
[10:15] <Andorin> Okay, what the deuce. Repeatedly pressing the key for fun got it to work once out of maybe fifty presses.
[10:15] <joejc> where would i buy a pci modem that supports dsl?
[10:15] <Neroon> staticRails: of course it is
[10:15] <indus> staticRails: of course
[10:15] <staticRails> indus: i have internet... how I can have internet on that pc?
[10:16] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: just connect network cable there and you got it
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: just do this when you have internet, sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:16] <Andorin> I don't know how, but "Mute" is just NOT working. The system detects that I press the key, but it's not doing anything.
[10:16] <Andorin> Somebody please advise.
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: also first do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:16] <moymoy> staticRails: if you have your internet configuration in your /etc/rc.local file, then you'll have internet on startup, in the terminal
[10:16] <chartoin> dsotr, 7.10 is now an old release right?
[10:16] <staticRails> indus: it is wireless.. adn the usb card is connected to the case..
[10:16] <chartoin> dsotr, how do I change the repos?
[10:16] <dsotr> chartoin: y
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: thats ok,if it was working before,it will work now
[10:16] <moymoy> Andorin: does the volume icon change when you press the button?
[10:17] <Andorin> moymoy: Nope.
[10:17] <indus> moymoy: hello
[10:17] <dsotr> chartoin: do you want to upgrade it to another version?
[10:17] <moymoy> indus: hey indus
[10:17] <dsotr> !search upgrade
[10:17] <indus> iam here at odd hours :D
[10:17] <staticRails> indus: ping www.yahoo.com => "unknown host ...
[10:17] <moymoy> indus: what file system are you using? i had data loss when i had to force shutdown my computer =[ .. you're just a lucky guy
[10:18] <chartoin> dsotr, I will do that a little later
[10:18] <indus> staticRails: its wireless, takes a min to start
[10:18] <chartoin> dsotr,  maybe like tomorrow, right now I want to download a partition manager to ubuntu 7.10 and apt-get doesn't seem to work
[10:18] <L33tHaxor666> SHAZBURG: I Put in your info?
[10:18] <moymoy> Andorin: are you on a laptop? what kind?
[10:18] <L33tHaxor666> Do i need to restart opr something?
[10:18] <staticRails> indus:
[10:18] <indus> staticRails:
[10:18] <staticRails> indus:  it is 5 minute it is on....
[10:18] <ikonia> chartoin: 7.10 has been end of lifed, and the repos are now in the "old-release" server
[10:18] <L33tHaxor666> i pressed save
[10:19] <ikonia> chartoin: you'll probably need to update your sources.list
[10:19] <dsotr> chartoin: the repos are located in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <Andorin> moymoy: Nope, on my PC. Though Mute stopped working on my laptop quite some time ago. PC is an HP Pavilion a6512p running Jaunty.
[10:19] <indus> staticRails: hmm ok use a wired cable
[10:19] <chartoin> dsotr, how do I update the sources.list?
[10:19] <L33tHaxor666> LOL..
[10:19] <indus> staticRails: best is.. use live cd ,boot up,install the packages and you will be fine
[10:19] <dsotr> chartoin: but to repartition you hdd I'd suggest using the live distro GParted
[10:19] <ikonia> chartoin: open it with a text editor, or use the software sources editor gui
[10:19] <indus> dsotr: gparted is also present on the live cd
[10:20] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[10:20] <grawity> Ramonster: you need libssl-dev, I think.
[10:20] <ikonia> Ramonster: you need the ssl libraraies from the development package - what are you trying to build ?
[10:20] <dsotr> indus: ups :)
[10:20] <chartoin> dsotr, I'll use the live cd
[10:20] <moymoy> Andorin: sorry .. i was just interested in your problem.. didn't actually know how to fix it.. althought it might be that the kernel doesn't support the hardware (extra buttons your computer has)
[10:20] <dsotr> !dist-upgrade | chartoin
[10:20] <Ramonster> grawity: got that one\
[10:20] <Neroon> L33tHaxor666: Shazburg has left the channel
[10:20] <chartoin> ikonia, what do I change in the sources  list?
[10:20] <Ramonster> ikonia, trying to build arcemu
[10:20] <indus> dsotr: but you are right too, gparted has an iso for doing cool stuff
[10:20] <staticRails> indus: is it possible to boot from live and install something on installed ubuntu??
[10:20] <L33tHaxor666> damn
[10:20] <ikonia> !info arcemu
[10:20] <Andorin> moymoy: It was working earlier.
[10:20] <indus> !gparted
[10:21] <L33tHaxor666> i mean
[10:21] <L33tHaxor666> poo poo
[10:21] <indus> staticRails: of course it is
[10:21] <Andorin> moymoy: And it doesn't work even if I set the shortcut to something like Alt+M.
[10:21] <ikonia> chartoin: change the hostname of the releases to be old-releases.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <ikonia> chartoin: then do apt-get update
[10:21] <moymoy> Andorin: are you using the right sound mixer? accidentally switched by any chance?
[10:22] <ikonia> chartoin: so the hostname for each repo should be "old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[10:22] <Andorin> moymoy: How do I check?
[10:22] <staticRails> indus:  can't we use the packages on the live to install it?
[10:22] <L33tHaxor666> Do i need to restart to get this to work
[10:22] <indus> staticRails: i dont understand
[10:22] <L33tHaxor666> anyone know
[10:22] <L33tHaxor666> ?
[10:23] <indus> L33tHaxor666: when i doubt,restart :)
[10:23] <L33tHaxor666> ok
[10:23] <indus> L33tHaxor666: when in doubt,restart :)
[10:23] <staticRails> indus: I mean isn't x-server available on the live cd? and if it is can't we install that without having internet connection?
[10:23] <moymoy> Andorin: you can go to the sound preferences and there are various things you can test.. and also test the volume slider controls.. because that's what your keyboard is controlling right? is it controlling MASTER?
[10:24] <staticRails> indus: I am on with the live version.
[10:24] <indus> staticRails: yes ok
[10:24] <indus> staticRails: you need to point the installer to the live cd package
[10:24] <Andorin> moymoy: I can right-click the Volume icon in the panel and hit Preferences... it is indeed set to Master.
[10:25] <indus> staticRails: go to synaptic and add the cd i guess
[10:25] <Andorin> moymoy: I also can't think of anything I've done today that would change anything regarding my volume.
[10:25] <moymoy> Andorin: okay.. does the volume slider work to change your volume?
[10:25] <Andorin> moymoy: Yup. And the Volume Up/Down keys on my keyboard work. Just not Mute.
[10:26] <staticRails> indus: ok... the live cd is up and I also have internet connection. how I am able to tell him the location of the installed version of ubuntu.... (
[10:26] <moymoy> Andorin: that's so strange.. all the keyboard commands should be controlling the same thing.. i'm assuming you set with the "keyboard shortcuts" in preferences?
[10:26] <L33tHaxor666> WOOT
[10:26] <moymoy> Andorin: have you tried logging out and back in?
[10:26] <L33tHaxor666> YOU GUYS DID IT
[10:27] <indus> staticRails: go to synaptic> repositories and add the cd
[10:27] <L33tHaxor666> my whole screen is working...
[10:27] <Andorin> moymoy: Yes, I did. The default is the Mute key and I even tried changing the shortcut. Doesn't work. No, I haven't tried logging out.
[10:27] <L33tHaxor666> ubuntu is my new OS
[10:27] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: what was your problem anyway?
[10:27] <L33tHaxor666> I couldnt get high resolution support
[10:27] <moymoy> Andorin: give it a shot.. let's see what happens when GNOME reloads
[10:28] <Andorin> moymoy: K, brb.
[10:28] <dsotr> aps ncmpc
[10:28] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: how high is your resolution?
[10:28] <staticRails> indus: my question is not to use cd as a repository... I am asking you how to tell the live running os to install the x-server org package for my installed version of ubuntu
[10:28] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries - what could this be since im almost sure I got the right ssl libs :s
[10:28] <L33tHaxor666> now its at 1280 by 800, i couldnt get any wide screen
[10:28] <L33tHaxor666> before
[10:28] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[10:29] <indus> easy
[10:29] <L33tHaxor666> add lines with gedit
[10:29] <L33tHaxor666> was how
[10:29] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core , sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:29] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: 1680x1050  xD
[10:30] <staticRails> indus: it is trying to install on the live version.....
[10:30] <L33tHaxor666> show off
[10:30] <owen1> how to run an app on boot, in a specific monitor (I have 2)?
[10:30] <Neroon> anyone know why the network loses connection to the router (lan) after a while?
[10:30] <owen1> i have it in .xinit rc, before starting my wm, but it only shows in one of my monitores.
[10:30] <indus> staticRails: ya wait i min
[10:30] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: i'm just happy, this monitor came with DELL for a good price!
[10:30] <hantu> hey my mbr has moved to my usb stick and not my hd
[10:30] <indus> staticRails: hmm what do you mean live version? its a cd
[10:30] <indus> staticRails: but i get your point
[10:31] <L33tHaxor666> u got hdmi?
[10:31] <hantu> how do i change it bace
[10:31] <hantu> back
[10:31] <awake> hi everyone, i wanted to use the script in this thread > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451344&page=2 to spin down my external hard drive, but i have a different ext hard drive and it has 2 partitions
[10:31] <staticRails> indus: you get?
[10:31] <to_> how can I know my private ip address?
[10:31] <awake> will the script still work?
[10:32] <phishie> to_: ifcongif /all
[10:32] <L33tHaxor666> no hdmi huh :D
[10:32] <phishie> to_: ifconfig /all
[10:32] <grawity> to_: ifconfig -a
[10:32] <phishie> soz
[10:32] <grawity> phishie: /all is on WIndows.
[10:32] <Neroon> Need help, network loses connection to router after a while (LAN). Even network restart doesnt help
[10:32] <Andorin> moymoy: Still doesn't work.
[10:32] <phishie> oops
[10:33] <kke_> truecrypt says unable to create loop device when trying to mount, any ideas?
[10:33] <phishie> ifconfig would do lol
[10:33] <indus> staticRails: not sure how we can do this
[10:33] <Neroon> noone?
[10:33] <indus> staticRails: i suggest you boot normally and install from command line, network should work
[10:33] <to_> phishie: grawity: but can't see any address like 192.168.x.x in, why?
[10:34] <indus> staticRails: ok wait hold on
[10:34] <staticRails> indus: ok. I 'll try
[10:34] <indus> staticRails: reinstall :)
[10:34] <grawity> to_: you probably don't have one.
[10:34] <moymoy> Andorin: sorry dude, i don't know what the problem is.. since everything else seems to work fine
[10:34] <phishie> maybe you are connected directly?
[10:35] <staticRails> indus: reinstall what?
[10:35] <indus> staticRails: ubuntu
[10:35] <Andorin> moymoy: Thanks anyway for trying; I'm going to register on the forums and post my question there.
[10:35] <indus> staticRails: but nvm, try booting normally and network should work,its not depending on GUI
[10:36] <indus> staticRails: why dont you try failsafe terminal then?
[10:36] <staticRails> indus: reinstall a fresh ubuntu???
[10:36] <staticRails> indus: i used it.. i don't have any connection in that.
[10:36] <mzz> so how do I get a list of the roots used by apt-get autoremove? deborphan -a is close, but seems to treat suggests and recommends identically.
[10:36] <indus> staticRails: you said x works with failsafe,then shouldnt you be able to install packages
[10:36] <mzz> (either gui or cli is fine)
[10:36] <moymoy> indus: i thought on a standard ubuntu installation, the networking is handled by GNOME, so one has to at least log into a gnome session to get networking ready
[10:37] <to_> phishie: grawity: yes, should be that, but in this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html , they have 192.168.1.10 as IP for their server, so what do I set for it if I havent a such address?
[10:37] <indus> moymoy: nope
[10:37] <staticRails> indus: there is no connection in failsafe.
[10:37] <indus> staticRails: hmm
[10:37] <mzz> moymoy: I haven't used them, but I'm pretty sure networkmanager has a cli interface too
[10:37] <indus> moymoy: networking is a service started on boot time
[10:37] <indus> moymoy: gui makes it easy to configure of course, imagine entering ip addresses without a gui :)
[10:38] <moymoy> indus: when boot up, ping'ing google results in the host not resolving (before i log in to GNOME) .. but now i have my configuration in my rc.local file
[10:38] <gsnedders> Hey, I'm using BitlBee, yet the init script isn't starting it as the bitlbee user
[10:39] <indus> moymoy: hmm you probably trying before networking has started,but yes probably that rc.local has some settings
[10:39] <indus> moymoy: but i think that too is read before gdm loads up
[10:39] <devil> need to install gcc java on ubuntu.
[10:40] <indus> devil: sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:40] <mzz> ooh, apt has python bindings. Perhaps those can tell me.
[10:40] <indus> devil: which java. there are quite a few
[10:40] <moymoy> indus: yup, it is.. maybe it was just a kink left from my upgrade from 8.10.. but i did a fresh install with a 9.04 minimal CD and networking works after boot, even before i login through gdm .. but i edited my rc.local file because i wanted a static LAN ip
[10:41] <devil> indus: i have downloded gcc C++ compiler .
[10:41] <indus> moymoy: ya think about ubuntu servers, they dont have gdm :)networking depending on gui wil kill the whole concept
[10:42] <indus> devil: ok and?
[10:42] <indus> devil: why download when you can install from synaptic
[10:42] <indus> devil: main menu> system>administration>synaptic
[10:42] <devil> indus: its because i dnt have a hard disk and i am booting ubuntu via usb .
[10:42] <vise> Hi.. why is my overal download speed in Transmission double that of the only torrent im downloading? The torrent shows 8 kB/s (only torrent) and the overall speed is 16 kB/s.. why so?
[10:43] <indus> devil: ok and?
[10:43] <Slart> vise: overall=upload+download? just a guess
[10:43] <devil> indus: hence i am looking forward to get all the necessary packages on the usb and install them each time i log on
[10:44] <vadi> audio not working help me plz
[10:44] <indus> devil: hmm that way, check packages.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <vise> Oops.. sorry.. So why is the torrent download speed less than the total download speed on Transmission? The only torrent i am downloading shows 8 kB/s and the overall is 16 kB/s.. Theres no upload taking place...
[10:44] <indus> devil: you want to download the binaries then install on some other system?
[10:44] <moymoy> vise: the overall accounts for protocol traffic also.. because your client has to communicate with the tracker as well as all of the peers you're connected to
[10:45] <indus> i hate torrents, i get the worst speeds with them
[10:45] <vadi> audio promblem in 9.04 is a bug ?
[10:45] <moymoy> vise: also.. what kind of internet do you have? is 16kb/s normal for you?
[10:45] <devil> indus: hmm yes .
[10:45] <bullgard4> Where can I find a definition of the term 'host bridge'? (lspci uses it.)
[10:45] <indus> !packages
[10:45] <vise> moymoy, Okay, but in utorrent on windows, there is not much difference in the two rates...
[10:45] <vise> moymoy, Yes 17 is normal...
[10:46] <gsnedders> How can I find out what user a daemon is running as?
[10:46] <indus> devil: use the firefox ubuntu package search tool in location bar
[10:46] <devil> indus: tell me.. i have downloded  files .. a tar.bz2 and tar.gz  can i use apt-get to install the package
[10:46] <moymoy> vise: utorrent is probably much better at handling connections.. not that transmission isn't a great client also.. i personally use Deluge, and it maxes out my bandwidth
[10:46] <grawity> gsnedders: "ps u"
[10:46] <vise> moymoy, Il try Deluge...
[10:47] <Nameless_au> moymoy: what is ur opinion on ktorrent?
[10:47] <indus> devil: nope apt get is only for deb files but no problem, you can install tar files from the system by untarring them
[10:47] <moymoy> indus: always maxes out my bandwidth =] .. even if there're like 5 seeds, within those 5 seeds lurks some kind soul that has an upload rate of 70kb/s
[10:47] <indus> devil: umm i mean
[10:47] <vise> moymoy, What speed do you get.. just curious..
[10:47] <moymoy> vise: 110-140kb/s
[10:47] <indus> moymoy: actually, i have tried last 10 years and still dont know how to use a torrent
[10:48] <vise> moymoy, Ah good.. I must upgrade this ** connection.. :)
[10:48] <Cybertinus> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 on my Eee 901. I installed a PPA for Blueman. Then the package manager did a little wierd (Synaptic didn't want to start, the update manager didn't want to install updates) so I rebooted Ubuntu. And now X doesn't want to start :(. And there is nothing wierd in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:48] <moymoy> Nameless_au: ktorrent is a good client.. and has lots of features(that i don't use) so that's why i went with Deluge... (plus kde apps look bad on gnome)
[10:48] <Cybertinus> how could I see why X isn't starting?
[10:48] <indus> devil: tar xzvf <filename> for gz extentions
[10:49] <pinoyskull> anybody> i have a file...   file A contains 1 2 3 4 5     then file B contains 1 2 3 4 5 6     i want to compare file A and B then the difference will be outputted to file C
[10:49] <devil> indus: ok ill try
[10:49] <grawity> indus: tar xvf is enough, tar autodetects everything now.
[10:49] <grawity> pinoyskull: "diff fileA fileB > fileC" ?
[10:49] <indus> grawity: ok cool, when did that happen
[10:49] <grawity> indus: long ago
[10:49] <pinoyskull> grawity:  hmmm, that simple?
[10:49] <pinoyskull> ill try that
[10:49] <moymoy> Cybertinus: have you tried reconfiguring X? .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:50] <moymoy> vise: what kind of connection do you have? dialup?
[10:50] <Cybertinus> moymoy: running that now
[10:51] <indus> devil: ok so you got that?
[10:51] <pinoyskull> grawity:  is there a way to sanitize diff output? like removing the codes
[10:51] <moymoy> indus: so many great torrent guides out there..
[10:51] <indus> Cybertinus: check /var/log/Xorg.log
[10:51] <devil> indus: i gave the comm tar xf <archive name>.tar  it isnt ble to find the file
[10:52] <moymoy> indus: he said nothing weird showed up in there
[10:52] <indus> moymoy: huh what? who said?
[10:52] <moymoy> indus: Cybertinus said.
[10:52] <indus> devil: try tar xvf <filename>
[10:52] <indus> devil: is the file on the desktop?
[10:53] <indus> devil: then first cd Desktop, then command
[10:53] <awake> i have an external hd connected via firewire. after i unmount both partitions, the drive is still spinning, how can i spin down the hard drive?
[10:53] <devil> indis" tell me how to copy the file from usb to desktop.. i am unable to execute the cp command
[10:53] <awake> i've tried sdparm but i get permission denied error
[10:53] <indus> devil: u using live usb right?
[10:53] <hrga> how to check which OpenGL extensions are supported?
[10:53] <Slart> awake: tried using sdparm with sudo?
[10:54] <indus> devil: i mean.... live cd or how exactlyt are you online now?
[10:54] <devil> indus: yes i\live session through usb  ubuntu 9.04
[10:54] <awake> Slart, oh it worked, thanks a lot :)
[10:54] <Slart> awake: you're welcome
[10:54] <indus> devil: ok then ,hmm i havent booted usb before,but iam sure you can copy files there
[10:55] <indus> devil: just right click on that file? copy to usb or something?
[10:55] <mzz> hrga: try "glxinfo"
[10:55] <Cybertinus> moymoy: thnx, sort of :). I reconfigured xserver-xorg, and now I see the normal login again :D
[10:55] <Cybertinus> moymoy: only it chrashes as soon as I press a key :p
[10:55] <indus> staticRails: hi hi hi i forgot that simple step
[10:56] <devil> indus: theres the problem..iam able to access it through terminal only.
[10:56] <indus> staticRails: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf
[10:56] <moymoy> Cybertinus: hmm maybe reconfigure the keyboard input also .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[10:56] <staticRails> indus:
[10:56] <indus> staticRails: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <staticRails> indus: ok
[10:56] <indus> devil: cp <filename> <location>
[10:57] <devil> indus: lemme see
[10:57] <staticRails> indus: you mean I run this instruction when I run live ubuntu?
[10:57] <indus> devil: can u tell me the output of mount
[10:58] <staticRails> indus: you mean I run this instruction when I run live ubuntu?
[10:58] <indus> staticRails: no
[10:58] <devil> indus: i gave the command sudo cp <filename> /desktop...no error but the file isnt there
[10:58] <indus> staticRails: normal boot, then just say yes no etc
[10:59] <indus> devil: you need to copy the file from desktop to the usb drive iam i correct?
[10:59] <devil> indus: yes  via comand line
[10:59] <indus> devil: right now , do u see the files on your desktop? or you dont have a display?
[10:59] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I haven't reconfigured the keyboard input yet, but now I have the following lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: "(EE) Error compiling keymap (server-0)" and "(EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap" and "(WW) Couldn't load CXKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap"
[11:00] <devil> indus: no there r not there.
[11:00] <indus> devil: do ls -l
[11:01] <indus> devil: do u have a graphical session now? or you in some black screen
[11:01] <devil> indus: no its not there on dektop
[11:01] <devil> indus: i have the graphical interface
[11:02] <crimzor> Does Firefox use /usr/share/ca-certificates as a list of trusted authorities?
[11:03] <grawity> Probably not, but try it anyway
[11:03] <crimzor> Ok does not.
[11:04] <storr> what is the story of cron on ubuntu
[11:04] <Bala> hi anybody tel me how to install beryl emarald theme on ubuntu 9.04
[11:04] <devil> indus: is the comand sudo cp <filename> \Desktop correct?
[11:05] <moymoy> Cybertinus: anything in  /var/log/gdm.log? .. or kdm if that's what you're using
[11:05] <grawity> No
[11:05] <grawity> devil: it's sudo cp <filename> ~/Desktop
[11:06] <Bala> hi friends
 thnx a ton to u ...thnx to indus as well
[11:06] <Bala> need ur help for install emerald theme
[11:06] <moymoy> Cybertinus: anything in  /var/log/gdm.log? .. or kdm if that's what you're using
[11:06] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I'm using gdm
[11:06] <Cybertinus> moymoy: there is something there
[11:07] <moymoy> Cybertinus: any errors?
[11:07] <Cybertinus> moymoy: yeah
[11:07] <Cybertinus> moymoy: let me see how I'm gonna get them online
[11:08] <moymoy> Cybertinus: can you pm them?
[11:08] <bullgard4> Where can I find a definition of the term 'host bridge'? (lspci uses it.)
[11:08] <qe2eqe> When I move a hardrive from one computer to another, what should I do for smooth operation?
[11:08] <Bala> moymoy how to install emerald theme on 9.04 ubuntu
[11:08] <moymoy> !emerald
[11:08] <Cybertinus> moymoy: no. The computer running Ubuntu isn't the computer I'm using to IRC ;)
[11:08] <Bala> moymoy yeah
[11:09] <Cybertinus> moymoy: but I've found a way. I'll let you know when they are online ;)
[11:09] <moymoy> Cybertinus: oh... then pastebin it xD.. you got me, i'm sleepy
[11:10] <Bala> moymoy do u know how to install that one?
[11:11] <moymoy> Bala: why do you want emerald?
[11:11] <Bala> i don't knw abt emerald yaar i'm newbie
[11:11] <devil> grawity: now the file has been copied to dektop..i am using the command sudo apt-get install <filename>..but it isnt working.. am i dng something wrong.. the file has .tzr.bz2 extension
[11:11] <indus> so did the devil get help ? :)
[11:11] <indus> brb smoke
[11:11] <Bala> beryl emerald theme moymoy
[11:12] <moymoy> Bala: you can install emerald using synaptic.. but i'd recommend sticking with the default (metacity)
[11:12] <grawity> devil: apt-get only installs packages from repositories
[11:12] <moymoy> Bala: but if you really want to install emerald, then `sudo aptitude install emerald` in the terminal
[11:12] <mobi-sheep> .bashrc does not depends on distros, right?
[11:12] <grawity> devil: and .tar.bz2 archives have to be uncompressed with tar xvf <filename>
[11:12] <grawity> mobi-sheep: should not
[11:12] <devil> indus: yes but no..!!
[11:12] <indus> devil: grawity why did u copy the file from home folder to desktop btw?
[11:13] <indus> hmm
[11:13] <oldude67> devil, plus you will need build essentials for that as well.
[11:13] <indus> anyways u learnt a command so thats nice
[11:13] <indus> brb
[11:13] <grawity> indus: he wanted to.
[11:13] <grawity> indus: either that, or someone told him to.
[11:13] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I've put in on a pastebin :). http://pastebin.org/1662
[11:14] <devil> indus: i thought installaton would work that way so i asked grawity
[11:14] <Blindblade> Hey guys I have a bit of a lame question.
[11:14] <Cybertinus> moymoy: this is the file /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[11:14] <erUSUL> !ask | Blindblade
[11:14] <Blindblade> Ah i see thanks.
[11:14] <Bala> moymoy ok thanks
[11:15] <devil> grawity: so will after uncompressing the installation work?  itwas much easier in windows..!!!
[11:15]  * grawity sighs and leaves.
[11:15] <moymoy> Cybertinus: PM me
[11:15] <Cybertinus> moymoy: ok
[11:15] <erUSUL> devil: what are you trying to install ?
[11:15] <Blindblade> Well, I've installed ubuntu then vista.. all that has happened.. and i dont know how to figure out where the vista partition is on my drive so I can add it to the grub. I remember doing it off a live cd with some utility though having problems with my dvd drive at the moment.
[11:16] <mzz> Blindblade: err, does that mean you can still boot into ubuntu but not vista?
[11:16] <oldude67> Blindblade, you installed ubuntu then vista?
[11:16] <erUSUL> Blindblade: just look at « sudo fdisk -l » output (or paste it in pastebin)
[11:16] <mzz> Blindblade: if you can still get into ubuntu you should be able to just edit grub's menu.lst from there
[11:16] <devil> erUSUL: i wish to install java and c++ COMPILERS using usb ...
[11:16] <mzz> Blindblade: (it's harder if vista boots but ubuntu does not)
[11:16] <Bala> moymoy how to install icons i downloaded
[11:17] <Blindblade> yes oldude67 and mzz
[11:17] <erUSUL> devil: using usb ? in a computer without internet conection ?
[11:17] <yoman> I want to make a backup and reformat my partitions to create new ones but should I use tar?
[11:17] <devil> erUSUL: i have gcc java and c++ compilers in 4 file 2 .tar.gz  and  .tzr.bz2
[11:18] <Blindblade> ahh
[11:18] <erUSUL> !software | devil
[11:18] <Blindblade> thank you very much. found it. thanks for the help.
[11:18] <Bala> erUSUL how to install icon themes?
[11:18] <erUSUL> devil: just go to aplications>add/remove and install from there
[11:18] <yoman> why gparted does not show me partitions?
[11:18] <yoman> neither the livecd
[11:18] <erUSUL> Bala: drag and drop the tar.gz over the change icon theme window
[11:19] <erUSUL> devil: installing from source is not recomendez
[11:19] <erUSUL> devil: installing from source is not recomended
[11:19] <Bala> erUSUL that icon only also i did that shown not valid themes
[11:19] <Milos> hello. I have one problem. When my Ubuntu is starting, I get some error msgs saying that X server already started on screen :0 and it tries then screen :1. That happens every time I turn my computer on. Anybody can help me with this one?
[11:19] <gabkdlly> yoman: you probably have not selected the device. Look in the upper right hand corner of the window
[11:19] <Milos> And yes, when I login, it says that my screen isn`t composited...
[11:19]  * mzz is currently in the process of proving synaptic is not idiot-proof: marking a bazillion packages "Automatically installed" is pretty glacial
[11:19] <Milos> mzz: hi!
[11:19] <Milos> :)
[11:20] <jrib> mzz: what?
[11:20] <mzz> Milos: are you actually running two servers
[11:20] <mzz> Milos: (check in top or system-monitor or something)
[11:20] <thecat> hi
[11:21] <Milos> mzz: Yes, but how can I fix that so next time I start my computer it starts only one instance?
[11:21] <mzz> jrib: trying to accomplish the equivalent of a gentoo "world file": a list of everything I've explicitly installed. Unfortunately it looks like the entire base system was explicitly installed, so I'm throwing out all "explicitly installed" marks and starting over
[11:21] <mzz> Milos: well, if you really *are* running two servers you should figure out where they're both starting from.
[11:21] <Bala> erUSUL that file name is Black_Mac_Icons_by_Jameshardy88.gz
[11:21] <mzz> Milos: did you do anything unusual that might explain why you're getting two of them?
[11:22] <jrib> mzz: erm, ok.  Why don't you just subtract all of the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop from your list?
[11:22] <mzz> jrib: why is that easier and how do I do it?
[11:22] <Milos> mzz: nothing but starting Ubuntu in live mode(from a install CD)
[11:22] <mzz> Milos: you mean you're currently booted off a livecd, not an installed system?
[11:23] <jrib> mzz: apt will probably tell you you don't need stuff because you didn't explicitly install it when you actually do need it; don't know offhand
[11:23] <Milos> Nope, now I`m on system(HDD). But this problem started to happen after I logged in with live CD
[11:23] <mzz> jrib: basically if deborphan -a actually worked I'd use that, but it seems to get "Recommends" and "Suggests" mixed up
[11:23] <henke123> can you get help here even if you run eeebuntu?
[11:24] <mzz> jrib: so it misses things like mercurial which I explicitly installed) which has a dependency loop with mercurial-common
[11:24] <L33tHaxor666> can anyone tell me what ubuntu feisty is?
[11:24] <mzz> L33tHaxor666: an oldish version of ubuntu
[11:24] <Milos> codename for a version
[11:24] <L33tHaxor666> oh
[11:24] <oldude67> !feisty | L33tHaxor666
[11:24] <jrib> mzz: does apt-get autoremove not work?
[11:25] <RobRokken> holy crap theres a lot of people in here
[11:25] <jrib> mzz: never mind, you have a different purpose right?
[11:25] <mzz> jrib: I want a list of its roots, basically.
[11:25] <RobRokken> hello btw :)
[11:25] <mzz> jrib: unfortunately deborphan does not seem to use the same criteria autoremove uses.
[11:25] <jrib> mzz: ok, I can think of one way to get the list: from a pristine new install
[11:25] <oldude67> henke123, not if you dont ask, but is there not a channel for eeebuntu?
[11:26] <RobRokken> Any of you recording using Reaper?
[11:26] <mzz> jrib: I'm just doing it the other way around now: mark everything auto-installed, then mark stuff manually installed until autoremove doesn't want to remove anything.
[11:26] <mzz> jrib: shouldn't be too hard.
[11:26] <jrib> mzz: nope, not too hard, but backup what you change at least in case I am correct about my warning above
[11:26] <mzz> jrib: which one?
[11:27] <jrib> mzz: apt will probably tell you you don't need stuff because you didn't explicitly install it when you actually do need it; don't know offhand
[11:27] <RobRokken> Got wubi fired up right now :)
[11:27] <mzz> jrib: I'll sanitycheck its decisions, don't worry. And even if I screw up: this is a scratch install.
[11:27] <henke123> i cant get my wireless to work with my eeebuntu, i use wicd manager and i can see my network but i cant connect to it. It fails all the time, anyone has any ideas?
[11:28] <jrib> mzz: out of curiousity what purpose does this serve?
[11:28] <optimus> hi
[11:28] <mzz> jrib: I want a list of stuff I've manually installed for easier maintenance (both so I can install the same stuff on other systems and so I know what to remove to reclaim disk space)
[11:28] <dstaubsauger> hi, i have the /var/www of my jaunty server mountet on my intrepid desktop via sshfs. in the intrepid machine, nautilus shows 0b free space in the folder and its subfolders, and when i try to copy files there, i get an error. i can still "copy" files by doing "touch ./destination" and "cat /source/file > ./destination". how can i fix that error?
[11:30] <RobRokken> damnit, my cd drive is dead, is there a way to install 64studio without a dvd ?
[11:30] <RobRokken> I liked what I've seen with the live cd
[11:31] <staticRails> indus:
[11:31] <staticRails> r u there?
[11:32] <dstaubsauger> RobRokken: a) get a new cd drive | b) try making a bootable usb stick | c) use their channel to ask
[11:32] <indus> yeah yeah yeah
[11:32] <indus> staticRails: yes sir
[11:32] <RobRokken> But their channel has 4 people in it lol... :(
[11:32] <staticRails> indus: :) seems here is your home
[11:32] <dstaubsauger> ><
[11:32] <indus> yeah
[11:33] <indus> feels nice to be among good helpful people
[11:33] <Milos> mzz: it looks like it tries to start x server again when it`s starting login manager
[11:33] <RobRokken> thank you, I have a usb stick but its not bootable .... ahhh well.. sorry to bother you..
[11:33] <Milos> that might be it...
[11:33] <b1n42y> is anyone having issues with firefox 3.5 consuming vasts amounts of resources ?
[11:33] <staticRails> indus: I am running with command line and online.
[11:33] <dstaubsauger> RobRokken: you need a new cd drive anyway :P
[11:33] <indus> staticRails: you have internet on that pc? good
[11:33] <mzz> Milos: well, obviously the login manager is going to start *one* server. I'd be more interested in what's starting the other (unless it's starting two...)
[11:33] <RobRokken> hahah! yeah, i guess, i should stop being lazy and go buy a damn dvd drive right!! Time I upgrade to dvd anyway ;)
[11:34] <staticRails> indus: I issued the command : "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:34] <indus> and
[11:34] <Milos> mzz: in system monitor I see only one Xorg process
[11:35] <staticRails> indus: about 6 windows with ok button. all of them was fro keyboard setting
[11:35] <Milos> and one x session manager
[11:36] <indus> staticRails: didnt get anything to configure display? hmm i think they changed somethings in that command
[11:36] <staticRails> indus: after finishing: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibliy customised configuration file backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf....."
[11:36] <vadi> I am new to ubuntu, audio is not working. I tried many instructions from web still no audio please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/218789/
[11:36] <indus> staticRails: ya thats normal warning
[11:36] <staticRails> indus: how about reinstalling vga driver
[11:36] <staticRails> ?
[11:36] <indus> staticRails: so do u have internet in taht pc?
[11:36] <staticRails> ya
[11:38] <indus> staticRails: ok then sudo dpkg -reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:38] <henke123> i cant get my wireless to work with my eeebuntu, i use wicd manager and i can see my network but i cant connect to it. It fails all the time, anyone has any ideas?
[11:38] <Blindblade> Is it okay to type the output of commands here in public or rather not?
[11:38] <Blindblade> Just need ot for a bit of help.
[11:38] <indus> !paste | Blindblade
[11:38] <vadi>  I am new to ubuntu, audio is not working. I tried many instructions from web still no audio please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/218789/
[11:39] <Blindblade> Thanks.
[11:39] <indus> vadi: what happens when you click on sound icon on panel
[11:40] <vadi> Indus, When i click sound icon all the volume bar goes up and down and in the end every things goes to mute
[11:40] <staticRails> indus: the command is not correct
[11:40] <vadi> Indus: When i click sound icon all the volume bar goes up and down and in the end every things goes to mute
[11:41] <indus> staticRails: ok then sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg
[11:41] <Blindblade> Okay, so my problem is: I've installed ubuntu, then vista, wanting to boot into vista via grub now and cant find to set my grub up properly to boot from my vista partition. My output is posted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/218792/
[11:41] <indus> vadi: can u post a screenshot of that
[11:41] <indus> !paste | vadi
[11:41] <vadi> ok
[11:42] <indus> Blindblade: you are always required to first install windows, then ubuntu on top of it
[11:42] <indus> Blindblade: because windows overwrites teh MBR(Master boot recor)
[11:42] <oldude67> indus, Blindblade thats what i was thinking
[11:43] <Blindblade> I know it's better to do that, but I also know it's possible to boot Windows from grub.
[11:43] <indus> Blindblade: np, just boot up a live cd and come back, we ll help you
[11:43] <khelvan> Blindblade - I have a link for you, hold on
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> Blindblade: http://apcmag.com/howto_home.htm
[11:43] <Blindblade> Alright, thanks.
[11:43] <staticRails> indus: this command worked: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and the output is 0upgraded, 0 newly installed and 0 to remove
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> check out the dual booting guide on that link I gave Blindblade
[11:44] <indus> staticRails: ya but did it install anything , nope
[11:44] <khelvan> Blindblade - video tutorial on just this subject, made by a beautiful girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBBl6HvdpM
[11:44] <khelvan> That should help you.
[11:44] <Blindblade> I actually used the apc mag guide to do this ;) My only problem is I can't figure out which mapping to use in menu.lst for   (hd1,1) or (hd0,1) etc etc.
[11:45] <tofix> hello all , i have some issue with Xen
[11:45] <vadi> indus:http://imagebin.org/55983 - Please  check the screen shot
[11:45] <tofix> i made a bond that enslave 2 eth in active backup mode , and i bridge it ;
[11:45] <khelvan> Ahh, well, I'm not sure it is in-depth enough for that.
[11:45] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[11:45] <tofix> everything seems fine
[11:45] <tofix>  until i want to shut or restart one of the vm,on this time xend takes 100%CPU and i can't have any return from any xm command
[11:45] <tofix> i run xen 3.3 , on a 2.6.27 , i  can do everything i want with xm tools, create list... until i try to destroy or shutdown or reboot a VM, then i loose communication with hypervisor
[11:45] <Exile> hey guys does anyone know why firefox 3.5 isnt being installed via the repository?
[11:45] <indus> vadi: select alsa mixer from devices
[11:46] <Paddy_NI> !firefox-3.5 | Exile
[11:46] <indus> Exile: install the package firefox-3.5 it coexists with older ff 3.0
[11:46] <staticRails> indus: how to reinstal gconf
[11:47] <indus> staticRails: gconf? why
[11:47] <vadi> indus: you need screen shot from alsa mixer
[11:47] <indus> vadi: sure
[11:47] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get --reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:48] <andrey_> всем привет
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> is there a 64bit netbook remix iso? or a way o get a 64bit kernel on it?
[11:48] <staticRails> indus: when i loged in the failsafe... it saied it can't load some configuration files.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !ru | andrey_
[11:48] <b1n42y> !ru
[11:49] <indus> staticRails: nvm all that, did u reinstall xorg?
[11:49] <vadi> indus: http://imagebin.org/55984 - screen shot from alsa mixer
[11:49] <staticRails> indus: ya.
[11:49] <indus> staticRails: also sudo apt-get --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> you mean     sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:49] <indus> vadi: well,looks fine and not muted,so logout and login again
[11:50] <tado> hey everybody! i have a problem with my wireless: i'm connected and suddenly i can't browse or do anything, even if the icon in tray says i'm online. this especially happens when a consistent amount of data is transfered (downloads, updates, you tube...). the problem is that my laptop on other networks works smoothly, as well as other laptops on my own network! anybody could help? it's extremely annoying!
[11:50] <indus> ActionParsnip: yeah yeah ok ok
[11:50] <indus> ActionParsnip: man pages dont list typing install again so...
[11:50] <indus> hmm
[11:50] <staticRails> indus: installed
[11:50] <vadi> Indus: ok i will be back
[11:50] <indus> ok good
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> tado: get connected again, when it drops again run: dmesg | tail
[11:50] <indus> staticRails: now try logging in
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> tado: should give a clue
[11:51] <indus> staticRails: also this time i want dmesg
[11:51] <tado> ActionParsnip: only after it drops?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> tado: yes so we can see the system messages and it should show why it dropped
[11:51] <staticRails> indus: a problem: it said there is a problem with the driver and a report is shown in a text mode window
[11:52] <indus> staticRails: good , paste the message
[11:52] <tado> ActionParsnip: cool, i'll make it drop. (just going on you tube..). it might take a couple of minutes before i'm in here again. soon
[11:52] <staticRails> i am typeing on another pc...
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> tado: np, we just need the info :)
[11:52] <staticRails> indus:
[11:52] <demogorgon15> hello
[11:53] <staticRails> indus: x.org x server 1.6.2 release date 2009-7-7 \ x protocol verstion 11 ....
[11:53] <indus> staticRails: that doesnt look like an error
[11:54] <staticRails> indus: "not starting x display manager (slim); it is not the default display manageer.
[11:54] <indus> staticRails: hmm never heard of taht before
[11:54] <indus> staticRails: give me dmesg
[11:54] <tado1> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218799/
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tado1: iwl3945: Microcode SW error detected.  Restarting 0x82000008.    is the issue
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tado1: you need to find what it means
[11:56] <tado1> ActionParsnip: thought so... :) you have any clue?
[11:57] <staticRails> indus: give me the instruction for dmesg again
[11:57] <indus> in terminal type dmesg
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tado1: http://intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1593
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tado1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/226134
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> tado1: seems common, i think you may need a different firmware from what i'm reading but i am unsure of what or where
[11:59] <staticRails> indus: i restarted the pc. a blue text screen with a gray window is shown
[11:59] <tado1> ActionParnisp: all right. thanks a lot. i'll read through it and see what comes out. i'm not particularly good in understanding these bug pages, but i reckon i'll have to!
[11:59] <Armageddon> anyone got any idea on how to fix this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[11:59]  * mzz groans, now mercurial/mercurial-common *still* stay installed for no reason...
[11:59] <indus> staticRails: whats in the text, and why arent you giving me dmesg
[11:59] <Exile> ok can I install firefox 3.5 thats not called 'Shiretoko'. The reason I dont want to install this version is It completely shortcircuits the package manager which means that you will have to install future updates independently of the rest of the system. also When Ubuntu gets upgraded, it's very likely this firefox installation will stop working as it depends on libraries that will have changed version.
[11:59] <staticRails> indus: the message: "ailed to start the x server (your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly whould you like view the ...."
[12:00] <indus> Exile: it doesnt shortcircuit the package manager
[12:00] <Exile> so I will get all updates?
[12:00] <otto_teik> hi, I may somebody help me in ubuntu?
[12:00] <mzz> Exile: shiretoko installed through apt is quite safe updates-wise
[12:00] <indus> Exile: its officiallyt available from repos andwill co exist with existing one, and both will get updates
[12:00] <RyuSlash> Hello everyone
[12:00] <indus> staticRails: i need dmesg , i wont repeat it again
[12:01] <indus> !who | Exile
[12:01] <mzz> Exile: what's not safe is grabbing a shiretoko build from ftp.mozilla.org and installing it system-wide
[12:01] <CapeONE> .join #linux
[12:01] <staticRails> indus: I am chatting with another pc . and don't know how to connect to irc channel in a text mode of that pc. help me to connect from that pc to irc and help me to paste the dmseg for you.
[12:01] <Armageddon> i got an error when i use apt-get update, can anyone help ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[12:01] <indus> staticRails: aah
[12:01] <Armageddon> staticRails: use irssi !
[12:01] <indus> !irssc
[12:01] <allan_> hello all
[12:01] <Armageddon> !irssi
[12:02] <indus> ActionParsnip: whats taht irc command line thing called
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Exile: if you install 3.5 from repos you will have 3.0 and 3.5 side by side
[12:02] <indus> Armageddon: thanks man
[12:02] <Armageddon> indus: yw dude :)
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> indus: can you expand please
[12:02] <indus> ActionParsnip: nvm
[12:02] <Armageddon> staticRails: sudo apt-get install irssi | then irssi to open it and /server irc.ubuntu.com to connect here :)
[12:02] <allan_> hello
[12:02] <allan_> i have a problem
[12:03] <allan_> :)
[12:03] <Exile> mzz: what do I do instead?
[12:03] <cemc> hi. is there a good reminder app for gnome?
[12:03] <indus> staticRails: also if u dont have gui,then u cant paste it either
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> tado1: you could set the link speed lower in the interim
[12:03] <mzz> Exile: as mentioned above: use your favorite apt frontend to install shiretoko
[12:03] <Armageddon> indus: yes he can :/
[12:03] <demogorgon15> anyone here uses cbt nuggets?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> tado1: set it to say 12M and it may bail less
[12:03] <Exile> mzz: apt-cache showpkg firefox-3.5 shows 3.5~b4~hg20090330r24021+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 which I think is a beta
[12:03] <demogorgon15> how do you open the hta files in ubuntu
[12:03] <indus> Armageddon: how? no browser. ,
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone for some reason my sound will work to play a couple songs or in a few videos and then all of sudden it will just get staticy and then go completly silent. I have a **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC262 Analog [ALC262 Analog]
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y>   Subdevices: 1/1
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:03] <FloodBot3> fuzzybunny69y: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <Armageddon> indus: he can use links
[12:04] <indus> Armageddon: pastebininit
[12:04] <Armageddon> indus: sudo apt-get install links
[12:04] <indus> Armageddon: ok just tell him
[12:04] <tado1> ActionParsnip: how or where do i set that?
[12:04] <fuzzybunny69y> !pulseaudio
[12:04] <Armageddon> indus: what;s his nick again ? :S
[12:04] <indus> staticRails:
[12:04] <allan_> hello
[12:04] <fuzzybunny69y> !ESD
[12:04] <mzz> Exile: that's the jaunty version, the jaunty-updates one is 3.5 final. Try "apt-cache policy firefox-3.5"
[12:04] <Armageddon> staticRails: sudo apt-get install links | once you have it do "links paste.ubuntu.com" and paste it there
[12:04] <fuzzybunny69y> !alsa
[12:04] <oldude67> !hi | allan
[12:05] <Armageddon> staticRails: select to copy and click on both mouse clicks to paste :)
[12:05] <allan_> hi
[12:05] <allan_> i have a gaming problem
[12:05] <mzz> Armageddon: or use pastebinit, it's pretty nice if you're on the cli
[12:05] <oldude67> !ask | allan
[12:05] <staticRails> Armageddon: thx
[12:05] <allan_> can you help
[12:05] <indus> allan_: what kind
[12:05] <Armageddon> mzz: he doesnt have GUI and i dont know what's pastebinit
[12:05] <staticRails> indus: I cant exit iriss
[12:05] <Armageddon> staticRails: yw :)
[12:05] <Armageddon> staticRails: /exit
[12:05] <allan_> well i cant run doom3 in native installation
[12:05] <indus> lol
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> tado1: sudo iwconfig <wifi device name> rate 12M    (e.g.  sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 12M)
[12:06] <giaco> I need help from one of you to make a complete checkup of my system regarding video acceleration & flash player ( that's incredibly choppy ), please contact me in private, or here
[12:06] <indus> allan_: go ahead
[12:06] <allan_> cant open in full screen
[12:06] <Armageddon> indus: can you help me out ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[12:06] <mzz> Armageddon: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /path/to/some/file
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> allan_: have you installed video drivers?
[12:06] <staticRails> Armageddon: how to copy it ?
[12:06] <allan_> yes
[12:06] <Armageddon> staticRails: select
[12:06] <indus> ActionParsnip: cant run doom 3 without it :)
[12:07] <mzz> Armageddon: if I had to guess I'd say broken mirror or broken proxy between you and the mirror
[12:07] <emilien> Bonjour a tous
[12:07] <allan_> thats work ok i can run Quake 2 in wine good
[12:07] <Armageddon> staticRails: to paste, use double mouse clicks (right and left at the same time)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> allan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Doom3
[12:07] <indus> aah ok he said he cant run
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> indus: exactly, start with the basics
[12:07] <bazhang> emilien, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[12:07] <Armageddon> mzz: how can i fix it ?
[12:07] <indus> allan_: what graphics card do u have
[12:07] <staticRails> Armageddon: i am in text mode... how I can copy in text mode?
[12:07] <allan_> just cant open native games in fulls screen opengl that is
[12:07] <mzz> Armageddon: depends on which it is. If it's not a proxy simply retrying later may fix it. But do seek a second opinion, I'm pretty new to apt still.
[12:07] <staticRails> Armageddon: I don't have mouse in text omde
[12:07] <indus> allan_:in terminal output of glxinfo | grep render
[12:07] <Armageddon> staticRails: oh wait ! there was a way :/
[12:07] <allan_> any suggestion
[12:07] <indus> !who | allan_
[12:07] <tofix> hello all , i have some issue with Xen, i use 3.3 on a 2.6.27,... i enslave 2 eth in a bond0 that i bridge to xenbr0, no problem with this... with xen tools i can create and start as needed, but each time i try to shut or reboot or even destroy a domain,  the dom0 cpu load go to 100% and the communication with hypervisor seems to be closed , an idea ?
[12:07] <mzz> staticRails: what are you trying to paste(bin)?
[12:08] <Armageddon> mzz: thanks
[12:08] <lex1> serious trouble with ubuntu 9.04 on a acer aspire 5672 wlmi
[12:08] <allan_> oh ok
[12:08] <lex1> i cant boot properly
[12:08] <staticRails> dmesg
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> allan_: maybe  doom3 --fullscreen
[12:08] <staticRails> mzz:  dmesg
[12:08] <mzz> staticRails: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[12:09] <Cube> hey, im having troubles compiling NEWSBEUTER on ubuntu 810, it says i dont have sqlite3 to compile it BUT I DO!
[12:09] <lex1> after the splash screen i get a black screen with some shizzle on (graphic errors)
[12:09] <indus> staticRails: yah directly paste from command line i suppose
[12:09] <tado> ActionParnsnip: same same...
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> allan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25490
[12:09] <jrib> !compile > Cube
[12:09] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[12:09] <allan_> direct rendering: Yes
[12:09] <allan_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3870
[12:09] <allan_>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color,
[12:09] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$
[12:09] <FloodBot3> allan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <Armageddon> mzz: its not a proxy, its a broken mirror i guess ! and its been that way for a long time
[12:09] <indus> Armageddon: whats ur error
[12:09] <mzz> Cube: you're probably missing sqlite3-dev
[12:09] <Armageddon> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[12:09] <tado> ActionParsnip: same same
[12:09] <Exile> mzz: cheers that done the trick!
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> tado: try 1M just to test
[12:09] <mzz> Cube: or libsqlite3-dev even
[12:09] <Cube> mzz: ye. and i typed in sudo
[12:09] <Cube> aaah
[12:09] <Cube> there you go
[12:09] <indus> Armageddon: did u mess with your sources list?
[12:09] <Cube> thanks mzz
[12:10] <FloodBot3> Cube: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <Armageddon> indus: no
[12:10] <indus> Armageddon: or use custom ppa?
[12:10] <allan_> indus
[12:10] <staticRails> indus: http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[12:10] <Exile> mzz: so the updates should defiantly come thru the usual channels? I wont need to install manually?
[12:10] <Armageddon> indus: maybe
[12:10] <lex1> how can i start ubuntu without my graphic drivers ?
[12:10] <indus> allan_: yes allan?
[12:10] <Armageddon> indus: the second one yes !
[12:10] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[12:10] <allan_> direct rendering: Yes
[12:10] <allan_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3870
[12:10] <allan_>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color,
[12:10] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$
[12:10] <FloodBot3> allan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <staticRails> Armageddon: \http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[12:10] <allan_> i did that and thats is indus
[12:10] <Armageddon> staticRails: lemme checl
[12:10] <indus> allan_: aah ok so 3d is enabled
[12:10] <bazhang> allan_, paste.ubuntu.com with errors NOT here
[12:10] <staticRails> thx
[12:10] <mzz> Exile: as long as you install through apt (apt-get, synaptic, aptitude, whatever) and don't add any stupid repos to sources.list then sure, updates will come in automatically
[12:10] <staticRails> Armageddon:  you know my problem?
[12:10] <lex1> i cant start ubuntu :( plz help
[12:11] <allan_> yes
[12:11] <mzz> Exile: this definitely includes firefox-3.5 from the ubuntu repos
[12:11] <indus> allan_: always paste the output then give us the url here
[12:11] <Armageddon> staticRails: no
[12:11] <mzz> Exile: (why do you think this is not the case?)
[12:11] <indus> !paste | allan_
[12:11] <indus> allan_: run doom 3 from terminal
[12:11] <allan_> Ok indus
[12:11] <lex1> after the splash screen i get a black screen with red and green lines on it
[12:11] <Armageddon> indus: here's staticRails pastebin :P http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[12:11] <jrib> Cube: why are you compiling it at all? newsbeuter is in the repositories
[12:11] <indus> Armageddon: you solve it :P
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> tado1: i guess it still sucks
[12:11] <gabkdlly> lex1: try the alternate cd
[12:11] <mzz> jrib: heh, good point, I should've checked for that
[12:11] <Cube> jrib: lol the 0.9 version or something? they're already at 2.0
[12:12] <Armageddon> indus: no idea what's his problem lol
[12:12] <Kartagis> how can I solve http://pastebin.com/m3786cf56 without rebooting?
[12:12] <lex1> alternate cd ?
[12:12] <tado1> ActionParsnip: good guess _)
[12:12] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$ doom3
[12:12] <allan_> DOOM 1.3.1.1304 linux-x86 Jan 16 2007 21:58:02
[12:12] <allan_> found interface lo - loopback
[12:12] <allan_> found interface wlan0 - 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0
[12:12] <allan_> ------ Initializing File System ------
[12:12] <FloodBot3> allan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:12] <allan_> Loaded pk4 /usr/local/games/doom3/base/game01.pk4 with checksum 0x51c6981f
[12:12] <lex1> i can boot from a live cd normal
[12:12] <bazhang> lex1, text based installer
[12:12] <Armageddon> allan_: use pastebin next time
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> allan_: use the pastebin
[12:12] <Armageddon> lol
[12:12] <lex1> well i dont want to reinstall all that
[12:12] <nibbler_> Kartagis: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart, maybe rmmod/modprobe the drivers for your audiohardware? (just guessing)
[12:12] <indus> sexy dmesg :)
[12:13] <bazhang> lex1, try restarting in safe mode
[12:13] <lex1> doesnt work too
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> allan_: insteaad of putting the text in here and scrolling the channel, put the text in the pastebin then give us the link to the new page you are taken to
[12:13] <mzz> Kartagis: err, I'm pretty sure pulse normally runs as "you", not systemwide
[12:13] <Exile> mzz: I'm not sure, the version I installed the way you suggested is still named Shiretoko and there is no update option under help in firefox.
[12:13] <lex1> tried ...generic-11 and 13
[12:13] <lex1> both dont work
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> allan_: this will allow you to give multiple lines of textwithouot ruining everyones irc experience
[12:13] <bazhang> lex1, what errors do you get restarting in safe mode; be very clear as 'doesn't work is too vague
[12:13] <Cube> mzz: ok how can i get libcurl!?
[12:13] <Exile> mzz: its probably fine just want to make sure
[12:13] <mzz> Kartagis: so I wouldn't use the /etc/init.d/ script for it, I'd check if the user instance crashed or didn't start
[12:13] <lex1> i dont get any error message :(
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> tado1: ok use the command to set it back to 54M
[12:14] <indus> allan_: when you go to paste.ubuntu.com you will see a text box , paste the output there, write your name and click on send, then you will get a new page with a url, give us just the url here
[12:14] <tado1> ActionParsnip: done already
[12:14] <Kartagis> mzz, it must have crashed, because it was working this morning
[12:14] <lex1> it's just an black screen with grphic "errors" on it
[12:14] <lex1> e.g red lines
[12:14] <Armageddon> Cube: sudo apt-get install libcurl3
[12:14] <bazhang> lex1, so you are able to successfully start in safe mode then
[12:15] <mzz> Cube: recommend you at least try the packaged version first, as mentioned by jrib (I see 1.3, there may be a ppa with a more recent version). If you insist on compiling: apt-cache search libcurl, the relevant -dev package should be listed.
[12:15] <nibbler_> bazhang: safemoe is without X?
[12:15] <Cube> thanks
[12:15] <lex1> ... i can start it but after the ubuntu start (splash screen) i get a black screen
[12:15] <bazhang> nibbler_, without the drivers, vesa
[12:15] <indus> staticRails: aah the intel 915 chipset
[12:15] <mzz> Kartagis: check if it's not running or if the connection's refused for some other reason. If it's not running: restart it. Forgot how, but it may be as simple as "pulseaudio" in a terminal.
[12:15] <Cube> mzz: where would that ppa be?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> lex1: can you press alt+f2 to get a dialogue box up?
[12:15] <lex1> it worked yesterday :(
[12:15] <indus> allan_: did u start doom3 in terminal?
[12:15] <lex1> no
[12:15] <mzz> Cube: there's a search function for ppas, which in turn you can search for via google :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> lex1: does it happen if you log in as another user?
[12:16] <bazhang> lex1, what video card, what driver and how installed; include my nick in your response
[12:16] <lex1> i cant log in
[12:16] <lex1> Radeon X1600 (in a acer aspire), driver installed via sudo
[12:16] <indus> lex1: use the person's nick in your answer or question so that it will highlight for that user
[12:16] <jrib> Cube: apt-get build-dep newsbeuter will install the build dependencies for the newsbeuter package fwiw, but finding a ppa would be preferrable to compiling
[12:16] <indus> lex1: like this
[12:16] <indus> lex1
[12:17] <lex1> but the driver was for a X1400 :(
[12:17] <indus> lex1
[12:17] <indus> lex1
[12:17] <lex1> indus, kk
[12:17] <FloodBot3> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <staticRails> indus: what should i do?
[12:17] <indus> floodbot muted me :P
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> lex1: you can log in to root recovery mode add use the adduser command ;)
[12:17] <allan_> :P
[12:17] <Cube> jrib: ok. but i cant find any ppa with some decent version - maybe im not searching the right way?
[12:18] <lex1> bazhang: how can i un-install a graphic driver without logging into the system
[12:18] <lex1> bazhang: from a live system on the same pc
[12:18] <indus> staticRails: now what is the status? did u get some graphical scrren?
[12:18] <jony123> !hacker
[12:18] <indus> allan_: is your problem solved?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> lex1: i told you, boot to recovery mode root console
[12:19] <lex1> root console and than ?
[12:19] <lex1> actionParsnip: i am sorry but i am a linux nOOb
[12:19] <jrib> Cube: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=newsbeuter
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> lex1: make a new user using adduser
[12:19] <Cube> jrib: gracias
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lex1: if you can't log in as that user, boot to root console again then uninstall the driver
[12:20] <lex1> so i just write in the console (root-consol) adduser ?
[12:20] <giuseppe_> join #ubuntu
[12:20] <giuseppe_> hi
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lex1: well no, you need to specify a new user name
[12:20] <lex1> nice thx
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lex1: e.g.   adduser failsafe    will create a new user named filsafe
[12:20] <giuseppe_> hi there is someone can help me \.9
[12:21] <giuseppe_> :)
[12:21] <lex1> actionparsnap: you made my day :D
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lex1: you will then need to run: passwd failsafe    to set the password (if adduser doesnt make you set it)
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lex1: you can have any username you like except the ones that already exist
[12:21] <FreshPies> Ain't nothin quite like a fresh pie
[12:21] <giuseppe_> guys someone is capable to resolve a problem with wireless on eeepc
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: is it fresh fish pie
[12:22] <bazhang> !ot > FreshPies
[12:22] <FreshPies> Oh ok
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe_: ask the room, it will reply if it can
[12:22] <FreshPies> I thought this was a food channel
[12:22] <FreshPies> isn't ubuntu like a kind of gumbo?
[12:22] <maddie> anyone alive in here?
[12:22] <oldude67> FreshPies, google it
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: its an african word meaning "together"
[12:23] <bazhang> FreshPies, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <misfitx7> you mean gum-ball?
[12:23] <indus> maddie: iam
[12:23] <maddie> I am so effin bored
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> maddie: play tux racer ;)
[12:24] <jrib> maddie: learn something new...
[12:24] <maddie> whats that?\
[12:24] <allan_> No problem still
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> maddie: a cool game
[12:24] <allan_> indus
[12:24] <FreshPies> maddie: sometimse when i'm bored, i bake pies
[12:24] <jrib> FreshPies: do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[12:24] <maddie> just wanted to maybe chat...new to the whole linux thing
[12:25] <FreshPies> no, i'm just here to help
[12:25] <jrib> maddie: #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[12:25] <indus> so all are in the mood for off topic
[12:25] <maddie> I type that in?
[12:25] <indus> cool
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> maddie: this is support, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <vasser> hello
[12:25] <jrib> maddie: you type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> maddie, it's difficult to chat in here, as there's 1354 user heres
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !hi | vasser
[12:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> here*
[12:26] <vasser> i wish to install ubuntu using WUBI, is it possible to use ext4 as the FS inside wubi ?
[12:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> interesting question
[12:26] <maddie> not sure it worked
[12:27] <vasser> also, will it even make a difference ?
[12:27] <maddie> apparently I am clueless
[12:28] <jrib> maddie: you can probably just right click on the word #ubuntu-offtopic and hit join channel
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> vasser: should be, ext4 is faster but i don't personally use it due to the reports of data loss early on.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> maddie: we all are :)
[12:28] <allan_> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/218827/
[12:28] <vasser> it is not safe ?
[12:29] <allan_> indus are you there
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> vasser: the early design was with hard shutdowns. ive not read the latest
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> vasser: it will be defaul in karmic which is out in october
[12:30] <vasser> good to know, thanks ActionParsnip
[12:31] <allan_> indus is this a hard one to fix
[12:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> vasser, http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#For_people_who_are_running_Ubuntu don't think you can use it within wubi, you could mount a ext4 disk from wubi though
[12:32] <roberto_> hi
[12:33] <roberto_> what i have to put in menu.lst to use kernel 2.6.28-14-generic ? grazie:)
[12:33] <Blindblade> to no avail
[12:33] <b1n42y> lex1: vt?
[12:33] <Blindblade> looks like editting menu.lst does nothing
[12:34] <vasser> is it possible to convert ext3 to ext4 after installing ubuntu ?
[12:34] <allan_> hello indus
[12:35] <b1n42y> vasser: yes but u will lose some ext4 benefits
[12:35] <roberto_> I don't know what to write in the file
[12:35] <b1n42y> vasser: which u probably wont care for
[12:35] <vasser> which benefits, for example ?
[12:35] <alteregoa> i am looking for quato
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Blindblade: you need to run  sudo update-grub after editting it
[12:36] <Blindblade> oh dammit.
[12:36] <Blindblade> I feel like a moron. thanks A
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> vasser: you can convert ext3 to 4 but you dont get all the benefits of ext4
[12:36] <alteregoa> i have to find quato
[12:36] <b1n42y> vasser: i cant remember, server related i think, larger fs support for one i think
[12:36] <Blindblade> ActionParsnip:
[12:36] <oldude67> Blindblade, this is the reason that they say to run windows first then ubuntu. its easier
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Blindblade
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Blindblade: the documentation is pretty good for grub
[12:37] <Blindblade> I know oldude67. Figured my problem though, thanks to ActionParsnip.
[12:37] <b1n42y> vasser: its probably better to wait till october when its been tested etc it will be default in koala
[12:37] <Blindblade> Alright.
[12:37] <Blindblade> THanks guys, I might be back.
[12:37] <vasser> will do, thanks, b1n42y
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> oldude67: or just omit the windows install all together, super easy ;)
[12:37] <alteregoa> vasser: wait till a online fraggles are out for ext4
[12:38] <oldude67> ActionParsnip, now your talking...hate windows
[12:38] <shaullx> how to install adobe flash player on 64bit?
[12:38] <shaullx> and why can't i see any menu in my firefox (they are there i just can't see them)
[12:38] <vasser> thanks for all the help, bye now
[12:38] <alteregoa> ask them to write a 64bit version for flash
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> oldude67: don't hate it, I just realise that linux does everything that windows can do (well, for my needs anyhoo)
[12:39] <shaullx> na i rather get another quick term solution:)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: you can install the flashpluin-installer package
[12:39] <tado> ActionParsnip: i followed this, and with the following command it seems to work!
[12:40] <tado> ActionParsnip: echo -e 'alias wlan0 iwl3945 \noptions iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1' > /etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: or you can download the 64bit .so from adobe and put it in your plugins folder
[12:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> It is alright to leave your computer on 24/7?
[12:40] <shaullx> witch one is better?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> tado: nice one bro :D
[12:40] <tado> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820297
[12:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> ...or is ##hardware a better question for this?
[12:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> erm, a better channel*
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Until_It_Sleeps: i do. my file server has little over 3 years uptime
[12:40] <oldude67> Until_It_Sleeps, mine runs 24/7
[12:40] <tado> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot again. this definitely made my day!
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> tado: np man
[12:41] <Until_It_Sleeps> ActionParsnip: Well, with servers, it's only natural that they run 24/7. I'm talking about desktops and the like...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: i use the 64bit one, its beta but runs really well
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Until_It_Sleeps: no difference, its just a pc
[12:41] <oldude67> Until_It_Sleeps, mine is a desktop as well
[12:41] <alteregoa> i am looking for douglas quaid
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Until_It_Sleeps: in fact its ancient (P3 500 CPU, 128Mb RAM)
[12:41] <RandomTime> Until_It_Sleeps: It's ok to leave your computer on 24/7 - Linux works much better 24/7 than Windows (windows likes to reset and get slow)
[12:42] <b1n42y> how can i get a cpu load over time for one pid
[12:42] <lex1> how can i uninstall a driver when it'S not a proprietary driver ?
[12:42] <KC|work> i am quaid
[12:42] <alteregoa> linux has a monolithic kernel, its obsolete
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> lex1: how did you install it?
[12:42] <alteregoa> i hope the hurd project goes to ubuntu
[12:42] <lex1> actionPar: via sudo i think
[12:43] <lex1> actionPar: yeah with the terminal
[12:43] <bazhang> !ot
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> lex1: using the repos?
[12:43]  * Until_It_Sleeps wishes his group could get the C++ version of his Wikipedia program completed faster, then he would migrate to Windows without hesitation.
[12:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> erm
[12:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> migrate to Linux*
[12:43] <b1n42y> can i have a command that will enable me to track cpu load for one process please
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: its worked since the 70s and works very well
[12:44] <lex1> ActionPar: omg i am a total nOOb i use linux for 2 days now...
[12:44] <Until_It_Sleeps> See, I get confused 30 minutes after I wake up... :P
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509138
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lex1: did you use apt-get install?
[12:45] <lex1> cant remember
[12:45] <lex1> w8
[12:45] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: thanks, btw i love how the new notifications work with pidgin
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: i turn those off, very annoying
[12:45] <indus> allan_: hi
[12:45] <indus> was afk
[12:45] <bullgard4> How is 'host bridge' definiert? (It is used in lspci.)
[12:46] <lex1> ActionPar: yep i used apt get
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> lex1: then you can remove it with: sudo apt-get --purge remove <pakage name here>
[12:46] <indus> allan_: does doom3 have any display options inside? resolutions etc?
[12:46] <indus> allan_: i have quake 4 and it has the same options
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> allan_: doom3 runs amazingly under wine if all else fails
[12:47] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: well when you replied how would i have known that or for that matter how would you know if someone responded to you ?
[12:47] <bullgard4> How is 'host bridge' defined? (It is used in lspci.)
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: the icon in the task bar turns into a smiley yellow face from green
[12:47] <allan_> indus well it does but it dont display long engough
[12:47] <lex1> ActionPar: how do i now the pakage name :(
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: thats enough notification for me
[12:47] <indus> allan_: what do you mean?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lex1: what video card is it for?
[12:48] <deany> and it also flashes the taskbar when im in another desktop
[12:48] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: haha but i just read both your messages whilst checking out the thread you pointed me to
[12:48] <lex1> Radeon X1400
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lex1: or you can run:  history | grep install      may show you
[12:48] <allan_> well installed doom3 in native files but it just flashed the screen and that it
[12:48] <deany> I dont like the notify system..it shows for few seconds and then doesnt... least iif ive gone away I come back and see my taskbar flash and my icon in tray smiling still.
[12:48] <allan_> so i cant get to the options
[12:49] <lex1> ActionParcnip: i get: 2 history | grep install
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: i just dont like stuff popping up and trying to grab my attention. I'll do it when i'm ready not because some intransient occurance happened.
[12:49] <false> rg/55984 - screen shot from alsa mixer [05:49] [false(+ei)] [6:Freenode/#ubuntu(+JLcfnt)] [Act: 5,7,8]
[12:49] <lex1> but i am in  a live system atm....
[12:49] <false> [#ubuntu]
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> lex1: does one look like the driver you installed?
[12:49] <lex1> i only see: 2 history | grep install
[12:50] <lex1> Atcion: nothing more just that line
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lex1: i see
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lex1: then try:    dpkg -l | grep ati | grep video
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lex1: once you know the package name you can wrench it out
[12:51] <lex1> ActionParsnip: ii  xserver-xorg-video-ati                     1:6.12.1-0ubuntu2                 X.Org X server -- ATI display driver wrapper
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> lex1: does that sound riht to you?
[12:51] <lex1> ActionParsnip: it does ;)
[12:52] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: ye im like that as well, hate ads on internet, TV and OS's that bug me, im just saying i think as far as pidgin integration its a +, each to their own though, now stop replying coz you're popping up in the top right hand corner whilst im trying to decypher this code on the thread LOL
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> lex1: then run:   sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:52] <lex1> allready did :D
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> lex1: top man
[12:52] <lex1> reboot now, cya in a bit
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> peace
[12:56] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: i need that over time, im seeing how firefox behaves without flash coz 60 tabs with java turned on is killing this 1.7ghz tablet
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: well yeah, firefox sucks at ram too
[12:58] <b1n42y> it looks like disabling java has decreased cpu usage by 40% to 20% from 60%
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: try a lighter DE too like LXDE or xfce to save more cpu
[12:58] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all
[12:58] <chrissmithy> Hi hope some one can help I am trying to get my usb mf627 modem working have tried doing whats reccomended in the forums to no avail
[12:58] <indus> ActionParsnip: firefox 3.5 is much better
[12:58] <CrAzYoNi> I'm using Postfix under Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty, 32 bits
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> indus: yeah, gonna compile it when i get in
[12:59] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: do yo have an alternative ? i've got 2gb so ram isnt so much of an issue but i cant have 700mhz + going to web browser ...
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> chrissmithy: does it show up in lsusb
[12:59] <CrAzYoNi> I noticed that the outputted options related to /etc/init.d/postfix are not match to the script code options.
[12:59] <chrissmithy> no it doesnt
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: firepup, swiftfox
[12:59] <CrAzYoNi> For example /etc/init.d/postfix does not show status as an option, though it is exist in the script source code.
[12:59] <false> Anyone lead me in the right direction to activate my internet and touchpad switch keys?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> chrissmithy: ok, disconnect the device, wait 10 seconds, connect the device, wait 10 seconds, then run:  dmesg | tail
[13:00] <false> s/internet/wireless/
[13:00] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: thanks, midori no good, opera's pluginwrapper is probably worse than ff3.5 so ill try your suggestions
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: theres one i can never spell...kazenchaze
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: its the default in fluxbuntu :)
[13:00] <b1n42y> ye that one crashes
[13:01] <b1n42y> oh fluxbuntu... hmmm
[13:01] <chrissmithy> ActionParsnip: thanks I will give that a go
[13:01] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Hi, what program can I use to make backup copies of my bought dvd's? I am using Ubuntu Hardy.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> chrissmithy: make sure it is powered too ;)
[13:01] <jrib> !dvd | Chiselhuk_Plus1
[13:01] <b1n42y> Chiselhuk_Plus1: brasero ?
[13:01] <chrissmithy> ActionParsnip: it is it just sits there with its green light on :)
[13:02] <Slart> Chiselhuk_Plus1: k9copy is one
[13:02] <cycrosism> are the aus servers diwb
[13:02] <cycrosism> are the australian servers down*
[13:02] <Slart> !info k9copy | Chiselhuk_Plus1
[13:02] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> b1n42y: Didn't work! :(
[13:02] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: btw do DE take that much cpu ? isnt it the realted software that comes packaged with them
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: bit of both really
[13:03] <b1n42y> Chiselhuk_Plus1: why ?
[13:03] <Chiselhuk_Plus1> Thanks guys!
[13:03] <RandomTime> hey
[13:03] <cycrosism> m:80 (202.158.214.106). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[13:03] <cycrosism> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/source/Sources  Could not connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (202.158.214.106). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[13:04] <cycrosism> is it me or is it the australian servers?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> cycrosism: The connection was refused when attempting to contact au.archive.ubuntu.com.
[13:04] <Slart> cycrosism: that server doesn't respon for me neither
[13:04] <cycrosism> ...
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> cycrosism: i'd say it was down
[13:04] <b1n42y> Slart: i usually dont suggest packages from other de's, its all good but
[13:04] <cycrosism> when will they be back up do you recon?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> cycrosism: later is all we can really say
[13:04] <cycrosism> kk, ty :D
[13:04] <lex1> didnt work
[13:05] <b1n42y> cycrosism: whats happening ? i get my updates from OZ
[13:05] <Aureo> ppl
[13:05] <Aureo> help
[13:05] <cycrosism> bln42y i think the australian servers are down or something
[13:05] <cycrosism> b1n42y, **
[13:05] <b1n42y> oh, try aarnet
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Aureo
[13:06] <cycrosism> I'll just wait till the're back up
[13:06] <lex1> ActionParsnip: ;( it didnt work
[13:06] <cycrosism> they're*
[13:06] <b1n42y> its in the sources and its the quickest for me anyway
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> lex1: try booting to recovery again but dont choose root, select fix graphics
[13:06] <Aureo> i cant seen the amsn on synaptic
[13:06] <cycrosism> b1n42y, do you mean http://oz.archive.ubuntu.com/
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Aureo: sudo apt-get install amsn
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Aureo: does that work
[13:07] <Aureo> portuguese ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !pt
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Aureo: its a terminal command
[13:07] <b1n42y> cycrosism: um, im talking about repos what are you talking about ? are you talking to me?
[13:07] <cycrosism> wait i think its back up
[13:07] <b1n42y> *confused
[13:07] <limpc> hey guys. trying to install adobe air on ubuntu 9.04
[13:08] <limpc> installer installed fine but cant seem to run any .air apps. anyone else having that issue?
[13:08] <limpc> or had.
[13:08] <cycrosism> Hey I think the server is back up  http://au.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:09] <marcus> tryton.de
[13:10] <lex1> ActionParsnip: http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/9mbx-1q-jpg.html 
[13:10] <b1n42y> cycrosism: i was referring to ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/
[13:10] <lex1> thats the "error" i got
[13:10] <lex1> it's just a small part of the screen
[13:10] <cycrosism> b1n42y, doesnt matter, the server is back up
[13:10] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[13:11] <Until_It_Sleeps> :O net splitz
[13:11] <cycrosism> lol
[13:11] <cycrosism> uber net split
[13:11] <b1n42y> hey did you see that netsplit
[13:11] <lex1> lol
[13:11] <b1n42y> that was awesome
[13:12] <oldude67> welcome back everyone..lol
[13:12] <OkropNick> :]
[13:12] <Hew> thanks
[13:12] <lex1> actionparsnip: http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/9mbx-1q-jpg.html  WHATS THAT SHIT
[13:14] <b1n42y> i thinks thats lex taking a photo of his screen ?
[13:14] <limpc> wow. them some big pixels
[13:14] <Supersaiyan_IV> lex1, I had the same problem
[13:14] <b1n42y> limpc: thats what i thought
[13:14] <ufd> does anyone know why google earth always crashes on 904 ? thanks
[13:14] <lex1> it's just a small part of the screen lol
[13:15] <b1n42y> ufd: compiz ?
[13:15] <Slart> ufd: no, but you might be able to tell us if you run it in a terminal
[13:15] <Supersaiyan_IV> lex1, it occurred because i wanted to change the standard terminal resolution, and it adjusted the splash screen to that, and it fukd up
[13:15] <zaphod_home> when i shut down ubuntu, my screen breaks completly...
[13:15] <myself> http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D06CvUjLgK5g&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DuR2UXmTGK4M
[13:15] <ufd> i have got compiz but its not running at the mo
[13:15] <lex1> supersaiyan_IV: how did you fix it ?
[13:15] <ufd> what would i need to type in terminal
[13:15] <limpc> ufd - works fine here
[13:15] <Supersaiyan_IV> lex1, now I have turned off the splash screen completely, and im running 1024x768 terminal resolution
[13:16] <Slart> myself: reason for posting that?
[13:16] <b1n42y> ufd: run it from terminal like slart saif
[13:16] <b1n42y> said
[13:16] <myself> slart im sorry
[13:16] <ufd> slart saif
[13:16] <ufd> ok 1 sec
[13:16] <lex1> supersayain_IV: the thing is i get the normal splash screen and AFTER that i get this error
[13:16] <b1n42y> try googl +tab
[13:17] <ufd> command not found it says
[13:17] <ufd> slart saif or googl +tab
[13:17] <Supersaiyan_IV> lex1, yeah same, only the logout screen or boot screen was bad
[13:17] <b1n42y> the second and use the key not type tab
[13:17] <Slart> ufd: huh? I'm supposed to be able to decrypt that?
[13:17] <ufd> thats what you told me to type
[13:18] <b1n42y> ...
[13:18] <Supersaiyan_IV> lex1, if you install startupmanager you will have a nice gui to manipulate the splash
[13:18] <Slart> !who ufd
[13:18] <Slart> !who | ufd
[13:18] <limpc> anyone here using adobe air on 9.04?
[13:18] <limpc> i cant seem to install .air apps - AIR itself installed fine.
[13:19] <limpc> but when i run .air installs, nothing happns. no installer opens, no error messages, no errors in logfiles, nothing
[13:19] <ufd> !slart ok
[13:19] <b1n42y> ufd: slart is a name of a person here, type google followed by the tab key to give you a list of all possible commands that start with google
[13:19] <Slart> ufd: no, don't use the !.. just my name (if you're talking to me)
[13:19] <ufd> ok
[13:19] <ufd> sorry
[13:20] <blind|melon|chit> Hi :> I'm experiencing multiple problems with the Java plugin in Firefox 3.5...whereas it used to work perfectly, now even simple 2d applets cause graphics corruption and require a restart of the X server to resolve :/
[13:20] <ufd> slart is it google tab
[13:20] <blind|melon|chit> The same plugin still works fine with the earlier, default version of Firefox
[13:20] <Slart> ufd: ask the one who told you.. it wasn't me
[13:20] <b1n42y> ufd: do you know where your tab key is
[13:21] <ufd> bin42y in term it says google-earth/ when i press tab key
[13:21] <b1n42y> ufd: sometimes represented but to arrows going in opposite directions if it doesnt have TAB written on it
[13:22] <ufd> bin42y i know thw tab key
[13:22] <b1n42y> ufd: ok thats the commad to run it
[13:22] <coleys> !german
[13:22] <JGodbout> Can someone give me a list of all the MSN clients which support viewing another persons webcam?
[13:22] <coleys> !dutch
[13:22] <JGodbout> I know aMSN works, but it would be cool if I had some others that worked
[13:23] <ufd> bin42y it says google-earth/: is a directory
[13:23] <b1n42y> ufd: so you are sure that its the only thing you get when you type google and tab
[13:24] <ufd> bin42y absolutely
[13:24] <b1n42y> ufd: for me googleearth bring it up
[13:24] <user__> hi
[13:24] <user__> how can I get my sony vaio's motion eye webcam to work under ubuntu?
[13:25] <JGodbout> What are all of the Ubuntu MSN clients that support viewing webcam?
[13:25] <Schizoid> Can anyone tell me which package contains the standard xlock program?
[13:25] <Narpi> Kopete support webcam
[13:25] <Slart> !find xlock
[13:25] <tudon> JGodbout:  and Amsn
[13:25] <ufd> bin42y earlier after i first installed it i had to delete a file in its dir to stop it from crashing after startup, it worked, but it still seems to have problems from a video level (i think)
[13:25] <JGodbout> Ok thanks
[13:26] <Schizoid> woah Slart. My xlock program seems to have disappeared, and xlockmore is certainly not it
[13:26] <user__> my webcam is not recognized by amsn
[13:26] <JGodbout> Yeah, aMSN hasn't been working too well for me
[13:26] <ufd> bin42y
[13:26] <JGodbout> so i was lookign for some alternatives
[13:26] <ufd> bin42y i'll try google tab again
[13:26] <Narpi> i'm looking for someone who had install Heroes III on his computer, can you help me ?
[13:26] <Slart> Schizoid: what is it? a screensaver?
[13:27] <Schizoid> Slart it just blanks X and then you have to enter a password to get back in. xlockmore does the same thing, it just isn't the same as whatever was originally installed with xubuntu
[13:27] <Schizoid> i have no idea where it went
[13:28] <Slart> Schizoid: can't really help you with that.. never really messed with that part of xubuntu
[13:28] <Schizoid> yeah, no worries. THank you
[13:28] <b1n42y> ufd: ok, well i was going to get you to delete that file, let me turn compiz on and see if it crashes for me
[13:28] <tumii66> I'm installing ubuntu, should I install 32-bit or 64 ( i have used it for some time)?
[13:28] <podman99a> hey all ... what permission code would this be... (i.e. 755) -rwxrwxrwt
[13:29] <Slart> tumii66: how much memory do you have?
[13:29] <tumii66> Slart: 2GB
[13:29] <Slart> tumii66: I would go with 32-bit then
[13:29] <tumii66> Slart: okay :) thanks
[13:29] <Slart> tumii66: you're welcome
[13:29] <drewby> how do I add a lang to gedit?
[13:30] <drewby> how do I add a lang to gedit for syntax hilighting?
[13:30] <MaT-dg> tumii66: there are no downsides on 64bit you now
[13:30] <tumii66> MaT-dg: does 64-bit run 32-bit software (ex. after compiling)?
[13:31] <MaT-dg> tumii66: yes, I've yet have to see the first program that doesn't run here
[13:31] <b1n42y> ufd: ?
[13:31] <Slart> tumii66: yes, it does... the problem is that if you want to run 32bit firefox, for example, you need 32bit versions of all the libraries that firefox uses
[13:32] <tumii66> Slart: can I install 32-bit software (ex. Firefox) from command line? (is there such a command 'sudo apt-get install firefox-32bit' or so)?
[13:32] <Slart> tumii66: the only software I've run into that didn't work on 64bit was a firefox plugin for doing my taxes online.. that was 32bit only, proprietary and very very annoying.. so it might not be a loss after all
[13:32] <oldude67> Slart, so a simple apt-get firefox wouldnt work?
[13:32] <MaT-dg> Slart: tumii66: but  why should you want to run 32bit FF when there is a native 64bit client wich is installed by default. There is no 32bit FF on a fresh ubuntu 64bit install
[13:32] <Schizoid> !find xflock4
[13:32] <Slart> tumii66: not that easy.. no
[13:33] <tumii66> Slart, then i just get 32-bit :p
[13:33] <Slart> MaT-dg: to run my annoying 32 bit plugin so I can do my taxes online? =)
[13:33] <Slart> tumii66: the advantages of 64bit are limited to some special cases.. the disadvantages are almost even more limited
[13:34] <tumii66> Slart: Okay
[13:34] <Slart> tumii66: go with 32-bit now and when you reinstall ubuntu 10.4 you can give 64bit a try =)
[13:35] <MaT-dg> Slart: ah well, I have to use windows and IE to do my taxes online, but that doesn't stop me from using ubuntu 64 bot for everything else
[13:35] <tumii66> Slart: why 10.4? o.O
[13:35] <Slart> oldude67: I don't understand.. you mean to install the 32bit version of firefox? if you run apt-get on a 64bit system it will install the 64 bit version
[13:35] <tumii66> Slart: I mean, why wait so long?
[13:35] <Halabund> On Windows, I use WinDjView for viewing djvu files.  It allows creating bookmarks to different views of the document, so I can flip between the views quickly.  Is there a viewer with similar capabilities for Ubuntu?  (It would be best if there were something that can do this for PDFs as well!)
[13:36] <Slart> tumii66: hehe.. no special reason.. I usually reinstall every third ubuntu version or so.. then upgrade in between
[13:36] <tumii66> Slart: okay lol
[13:36] <JGodbout> Is there some sort of graphical tool to modify a keyboard layout?
[13:36] <Slart> MaT-dg: I use a 32-bit vm myself.. haven't used 32bit firefox since adobe started releasing flash for 64bit
[13:37] <tudon> djvulibre?
[13:37] <Slart> xmodmap, JGodbout
[13:37] <Slart> JGodbout: oh.. sorry.. graphical.. no idea then
[13:37] <MaT-dg> Slart: actually I doubt that when a government doesn't have 64bit support today they will have it in 2010
[13:37] <Slart> MaT-dg: true..
[13:37] <JGodbout> Meh, I will try that anyway
[13:37] <JGodbout> Who needs a GUI? Not me.
[13:38] <indus> staticRails: hi any luck?
[13:39] <indus> mmm 10.04
[13:39] <indus> cant wait for that beauty
[13:40] <tumii66> what special will 10.04 be ?
[13:40] <tudon> in the future you will need a gui to get into not having a gui :D :O
[13:40] <indus> well its four digit number :)
[13:40] <indus> 1 0 0 4
[13:40] <tumii66> indus, lo
[13:40] <tumii66> lol
[13:40] <papul> i need gmcs.
[13:41] <indus> so who is stuc kwith what problem here
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: i kinda am
[13:42] <limpc> nm figured out the issue
[13:42] <limpc> apparently AIR != 64 bit.  gay
[13:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: whats up
[13:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: your problem must be complicated :)
[13:42] <indus> i like the easy ones
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: is it possible to get a 64bit kernel in the netbook remix without first installing ubuntu then installing the frontend?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: like a 64bit netook remix
[13:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: isnt there a unr 64 available?
[13:43] <tumii66> lol
[13:43] <indus> gartral: hello
[13:43] <gartral> where do I go to point out that packages should have regular merges?
[13:44] <papul__> i need gmcs
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> not sure, i just like the system as its light but wondered if there was ar 64bit version. ive not seen one as all netbooks afaik are 32bit
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> !info gmcs
[13:44] <matrix_> hi i am isntalling a langauge program from usb drive the program i am running with wine now its installin on C drive where will this programm be
[13:44] <gartral> !info gmacs
[13:44] <papul__> not gmacs gmcs
[13:44] <matrix_> the file is install .exe
[13:45] <papul__> configure: error: gmcs Not found
[13:45] <papul__> ????
[13:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: hmm well,not sure what you want to do here,you want to use the netbook remix kernel and compile for your system? then add the frontend?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> indus: thats what i thought, oh well
[13:46] <gartral> ActionParsnip: 64 bit netbooks exist, there rare, but I know someone who has one
[13:46] <spectacular> what's happened to xorg.conf ?  what file is being used instead, please?
[13:46] <meteor``> whenever i open any drives or removeable media, ubuntu creates a shortcut for it on desktop. How can i make it off?
[13:46] <C-S-B> LOL @ online java based ms office proficiency test telling my netbook doesnt meet it's requirements...lol firefox 3 not supported(it says i need firefox 2+), i dont have ssl(wtf?) but ammusingly my resolution which is below there requirements, gets the thumbs up! :/
[13:47] <gartral> where do I go to point out that packages should have regular merges?
[13:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, ubuntu is nowadays made to run without a xorg.conf
[13:48] <jrib> gartral: what do you mean exactly?
[13:49] <gartral> jrib: a dauntingly HUGE number of games in repos arn't supported by their respective dev teams anymore... three that i can name Ottomh are Wormux, Hedgewars, and warzone2100... NONE of these will connect too the networked game servers because the repo versions are Out-Of-Date
[13:50] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i just installed ubuntu 9.x on two machines -- an oldish dell latitude laptop, and a brand-new eee pc.  Both seem to work very nicely, including having working wireless which i didnt have back when i was in debian.  one problem that i find is that when i try to watch video in youtube in firefox, it's very very slow and jumpy and kinda freezes the browser/computer a bit.  googling, they suggest changing something in the xorg.conf file
[13:50] <spectacular>  but there's nothing in it at all.
[13:50] <jrib> gartral: check if they have been backported, file bugs, feel free to help out :)
[13:50] <jrib> !backports > gartral
[13:50] <jrib> !bugs > gartral
[13:50] <sky_1> whats command for showing HW ?
[13:50] <C-S-B> spectacular: flash videos?
[13:50] <jrib> sky_1: HW?
[13:50] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, do you have proprietary drivers installed on both?
[13:50] <sky_1> components
[13:51] <trashbarg> spectacular, try X -configure
[13:51] <sky_1> cpu,gpu,disks,ram.......
[13:51] <jrib> sky_1: lshw
[13:51] <sky_1> thank you
[13:51] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, C-S-B :  i installed the flashplugin-nonfree thing with apt-get
[13:51] <sky_1> no
[13:51] <sky_1> bad command
[13:51] <C-S-B> spectacular: id read about installing flash, once done properly it will be fine-i doubt you'll need to mess with xorg
[13:51] <jrib> sky_1: then be more specific
[13:51] <gartral> jrib: Jaunty *started out* with these OOD packages.. they arent bugs, there poor package selection on cononicals part... my system is so %10 pathetic i cant even run git reliably
[13:51] <tudon> C-S-B:  sounds scary an online ms test .   lets call it voluntary spyware ?
[13:51] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, i see, but the gfx cards, do they have their vendors' drivers? eg nvidia/intel drivers
[13:52] <n00min> fresh u9 install, gets to gdm, once password is entered -- hangs. hit power switch, gdm shuts down graphcially, correctly.
[13:52] <sky_1> i want show hw components
[13:52] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i don't know, not sure how to check or install them
[13:52] <C-S-B> tudon: lol, i cant be bothered with it and im not installing something i dont need to comply
[13:52] <jrib> gartral: I don't see how you claim that a package not working because the version in the repository is out of date, is not a bug...
[13:52] <jrib> spectacular: yes.  lshw
[13:52] <jrib> sky_1: yes.  lshw
[13:52] <tudon> sky_1 :   dmidecode
[13:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, type glxinfo in a terminal
[13:53] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: fluxbuntu last release was in 2007 sometime... maybe ill run it VB in new bandwidth month
[13:53] <gartral> jrib wormux throws "This version is not supported for online play... download a ner version at www.wormux.org
[13:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, if it says ati/nvidia/intel it should be good
[13:53] <jrib> gartral: yes, file a bug
[13:53] <xyz_test> hi all
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: it uses standard repos so can be upgraded
[13:54] <erisol> how do you exit the x server?
[13:54] <jrib> erisol: why?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: you will need to install one of the desktop metapackages on it though
[13:54] <sky_1> etc/init.d/xdm exit
[13:54] <tudon> if zapp is disabled.  you can close the process also with htop
[13:54] <datta> i installed apache, mysql, php on ubuntu but looking at the size of it want to uninstall it
[13:54] <erisol> jrib: well, every once in a while, ubuntu hangs and I'm wondering if the keyboard shortcut could fix it
[13:54] <datta> how can i unistall all the packages and clear up the space that it is taking (more than 150 megs)
[13:55] <xyz_test> apt-get clear cache ?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[13:55] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, if you have the Mesa driver, then we'll download latest drivers, if you already have proprietary drivers I'll find you a xorg
[13:55] <tudon> yes with no zapp.   newbies are forced down the command line road to restart x .. nice?
[13:55] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: like xfce or lxde, but dont tell me its like arch, im not new to linux 8 months or so and forever learning
[13:55] <jrib> tudon: no they aren't
[13:55] <tudon> what then?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> datta: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[13:55] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i will put the results of that glx command in pastebin
[13:55] <tudon> i mean if it hangs
[13:56] <jrib> tudon: there's a sysrq key combination
[13:56] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, perfect :)
[13:56] <tudon> a new key combination ?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: no its a full desktop, just that the update manager is retarded and looks for the packages ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[13:56] <sky_1> erisol: etc/init.d/xdm stop
[13:56] <erisol> datta: try sudo apt-get remove, or sudo apt-get purge
[13:56] <giaco> to reinstall the kernel image is "apt-get --reinstall install linux-generic" right?
[13:56] <giaco> because /boot remains empty
[13:56] <jrib> tudon: yes
[13:56] <gartral> jrib: would you like to help too?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: fluxbuntu doesnt come with one so you have to install it to get upgrades
[13:57] <tudon> so ctrl alt backspace is disabled. what is it now?
[13:57] <erisol> sky_1: the only problem with that is that all I can do is move my mouse
[13:57] <jrib> gartral: no, I don't have enough time to help as much as I would like to on the software I do use unfortunately
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !dontzap | tudon
[13:57] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: I C
[13:57] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, http://pastebin.ca/1495722
[13:57] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: thanks for the heads up
[13:58] <devil_> wish to run c++ on ubuntu. also i want to install it on another system not having internet? what to do>
[13:58] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, is that the netbook?
[13:58] <sky_1> erisol: how you can write text ? O_o
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: its not a bad system and fluxbox is awesome
[13:58] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, this is the dell.  same problem on both, i figure the same solution will fix both
[13:58] <tudon> i know how to reanable it. but i thought he meant there is a new combination.
[13:58] <erisol> sky_1: not right now, but it happens frequently enough and I was wondering if restarting x could help
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> devil_: install build essential on the system with web, then copy the deb files from /var/cache/apt
[13:58] <sky_1> erisol: it should
[13:58] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, youtube etc worked perfectly on the dell in debian.  the eee pc is new so this is its first OS
[13:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, lspci | grep VGA
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> tudon: its alt+sysrq+k
[13:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, type that, and paste me what gfx card you have
[13:59] <erisol> sky_1: so, if I run dontzap --disable, which key code is it? and what is sysrq?
[13:59] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[13:59] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, thx
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> erisol: its the old skool CTRL+ALT+backspace, like it should be :)
[14:00] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, on the eeepc it's an Intel Mobile 945GME
[14:00] <jrib> erisol: look at the top right of your keyboard
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> erisol: sysrq == printscreen key
[14:00] <sky_1> ActionParsnip: he can work only with mouse
[14:00] <erisol> ok
[14:00] <tudon> sysrq is the super key?
[14:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, i see, go to system → administration → hardware drivers
[14:00] <sky_1> erisol: you should make script for restarting X if you can work only with mouse then
[14:00] <erisol> sky_1: no, that is just the only visible sign that my computer is working
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sky_1: thats gonna be a tough one to get round ;)
[14:00] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: only thing is irc channel is dead so if i ever had any problems i'd have to come here and annoy YOU
[14:01] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, is there an option for enabling a graphics driver?
[14:01] <meteor``> whenever i open any drives or removeable media, ubuntu creates a shortcut for it on desktop. How can i make it off?
[14:01] <tudon> ok
[14:01] <erisol> sky_1: I'm saying that I can't click anything or switch windows, etc
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: theres #fluxbox too
[14:01] <sky_1> erisol: ohh
[14:01] <erisol> I'll try the ctrl-alt-backspace again
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: fluxbox has a tonne of online docs tooo
[14:01] <gartral> jrib: will the fact that ive started useing PPAs for some games affect the bug reports?
[14:01] <erisol> if it works, I won't be back for a bit ;)
[14:01] <richardcavell> Any xmodmap experts here today?
[14:02] <richardcavell> I want to assign a key on my keyboard as the control key by doing: xmodmap -e "keycode 133 = Control_R", but it doesn't work
[14:02] <spectacular> i dont have 'hardware drivers' under system > administration
[14:02] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, ^
[14:02] <jrib> gartral: well you shouldn't file bugs against the packages in PPAs, you should file them against the packages in the repositories that exhibit the problem
[14:03] <erisol_> ok, it worked
[14:03] <Ratapoil> any idea why CTRL ALT Backspace doesn't work
[14:03] <gartral> jrib: the ONLY problem these games are having, is that their too old~
[14:03] <jrib> gartral: ok, file the bug then
[14:03] <gartral> !dontzap | Ratapoil
[14:03] <erisol_> Ratapoil: try sudo apt-get install dontzap, and then sudo dontzap --disable
[14:03] <ForeverSmurf> is there a difference between debootstrap-udeb_1.0.13~jaunty1_all.udeb and 	debootstrap_1.0.13~jaunty1_all.deb
[14:03] <ForeverSmurf> I am doing a remote server installation
[14:04] <indus> Ratapoil: use alt-sysrq-K
[14:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular,  i see
[14:04] <gartral> jrib: I dont see why i have too file 100+ bug reports just to bring the attention of the devs too the new versions of the games
[14:04] <indus> Ratapoil: keys changed now
[14:04] <erisol_> what's the keyboard shortcut for quitting to terminal?
[14:04] <indus> gartral: which games?
[14:04] <C-S-B> erisol ctrl+d
[14:04] <indus> erisol_: crl-alt-f1
[14:04] <Ratapoil> what's sysrq?
[14:04] <isaac_> hola
[14:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, do, sudo apt-get install envyng-core
[14:04] <indus> Ratapoil: that printscrn button
[14:05] <C-S-B> erisol_: sorry, that closes a term
[14:05] <Ratapoil> thanks
[14:05] <isaac_> ya me fui
[14:05] <jrib> gartral: you are exaggerating I am sure... bug reports are how you notify devs of problems, I'm not sure what you want me to tell you
[14:05] <Mikey^> Hey
[14:05] <Shubuntu> hey does anyone know how to set up a vpn server on ubuntu and have a windows machine connect to it?
[14:05] <Mikey^> Is there a program that i can use to send a fax ?
[14:05] <Ratapoil> which app might contr6l triggering of numlock and scrolllock?
[14:05] <timahvo1> Ratapoil: or stick Option "DontZap" "False" in server seciton of xorg.conf if you have one
[14:05] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, then run envyng in the CLI interface, because thats the only one supported in latest ubuntu, envyng -t
[14:05] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, on both, right?  done.
[14:06] <gartral> indus jrib as far as I can tell... its EVERY game in the repos... none that i havent gotten PPAs for will connect too their respective servers... i mean NONE
[14:06] <indus> that dont zap option dont work well and screws my x server
[14:06] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, then install the recommended ATI driver
[14:06] <jrib> gartral: if that's really true then file a bug stating that
[14:06] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, this is for the dell only, right?
[14:06] <indus> gartral: which games from repo u play? nexuiz? that game is too bad on system even though it aint that nice looking
[14:07] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, yes, the intel will come later
[14:07] <spectacular> ok
[14:07] <klown> is there a way to redirect my sound output when I plug in a usb headset?
[14:07] <erisol> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a new terminal?
[14:07] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, it's downloading...
[14:07] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, :)
[14:07] <indus> erisol: yes ctl-shift-tab
[14:08] <indus> erisol: and for new terminal window ctl-shift-N
[14:08] <spectacular> (btw ubuntu seems to be working so beautifully on the eee pc... and it's so nice to have working wireless!  and the webcam in skype!  i used to have to double-boot into awful windoze for those things)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> klown: its essentially a usb soundcard, you can use sound options to select the device
[14:09] <indus> WINDOWS IS NOT AWFUL
[14:09] <sky_1> yes he is
[14:09] <indus> its great OS, as stable if not more than ubuntu
[14:09] <tudon> it is EVIL
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> spectacular: same with the aspire one, 100% works out of the box
[14:09] <sky_1> indus: ok now die or leave
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[14:09] <ActionParsnip> indus: im with you dude
[14:09] <erisol> indus: thanks
[14:09] <staticRails_> indus:
[14:09] <klown> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to find a way I don't have to select the device.  When I plug in the usb headset, it selects it for me, and reverts back when the headset is removed.
[14:09] <staticRails_> indus: sorry I was away
[14:09] <meth> what is the equivalant of inittab file ? i need to make a script startup after gdm has start
[14:10] <jrib> !upstart | meth
[14:10] <indus> ActionParsnip: thanks man
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> klown: you'd have to make a process to test your system to see if the device has been attatched then switch it if its seen
[14:10] <gartral> indus: thats one, Saurbraten is another... followed by warsow, warmux, Hedgewars, warzone2100, Arkhart, BZFlag, Spring RTS, Dopewars, Lincity NG, Scorched 3d, Tremulous, and vega strike... those are all i have installed that either completely dont work, in only partially work due to newer versions being released
[14:10] <jrib> meth: don't see what inittab has to do with what you want though
[14:10] <gartral> wormux*
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> indus: if windows suits your needs use it, if linux fits the need, use that
[14:11] <meth> i want to seee the defaultrun level and other settings
[14:11] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: do you remember my issue?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> indus: penumbra demo is awesome, urban terror if you like CounterStrike
[14:11] <erisol> how do I get gsynaptics to work? It keeps complaining that SHMconfig needs to be set to true in xorg.conf, but I've already done that and it still doesn't work
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> staticRails_: not in detail
[14:11] <sky_1> leave windows vs linux spamm
[14:11] <mobi-sheep> !boot | meth
[14:11] <klown> ActionParsnip: Can you give me something a little more specific..I don't mind looking it up, but I doubt I'll find much looking up "attached processes".
[14:11] <jrib> meth: runlevels 2-5 are identical by default on ubuntu/debian.  What "other things"?
[14:11] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, it's now installing initial module
[14:11] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: I reinstalled the intel vga driver.
[14:12] <meth> dude i just want to look at it
[14:12] <jrib> meth: look at what...?
[14:12] <meth> i know how inittab works
[14:12] <meth> there is no inittab now
[14:12] <meth> i have no idea how upstart works
[14:12] <k0pp> im looking for libgtk2.16.0, aptitude is complaining about it.  can anyone assist me in finding it.. ive looked everywhere.  either a .deb or tarball woudl be great
[14:12] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, it wants me to restart the computer.  shall i?
[14:12] <jrib> meth: yes, read the link ubottu gave you
[14:12] <tudon> urban terror is fun.
[14:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, aight :) yes do so
[14:12] <tudon> but you can not lean
[14:12] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: the result is a blue screen with a gray message.
[14:12] <Mylesmadness> I can not get java working from inside firefox
[14:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, let's see if it works, [Radeon Mobility 7500] is a really old one
[14:12] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, ok brb
[14:12] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: the message is: "failed to start the x server, your graphical interface..."
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> klown: well when you attatch it you will get an extra entry in /dev. It may be the same each time so you can simply have a process running:   file /dev/<whatever it is>  if its not there, it will fail. If it returns true then run a command to switch the device
[14:13] <ForeverSmurf> are there any other server installation options available. I am having no joy with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> staticRails_: ah yes
[14:13] <tudon> next month a new wulfenstein game will be out and with a linux version avail i think
[14:13] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[14:13] <gartral> indus: out of those.. ive had to go and install PPAs for warzone2100, Hedgewars, Warsow, and Saurbraten too play online
[14:13] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: it is the dmesg
[14:13] <klown> ActionParsnip: I think I understand.  I'll try some stuff.  Thank you.
[14:14] <rexes13> hey there
[14:14] <indus> gartral: hmm cant really expect much from devs, its all hobby projects mostly
[14:14] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i'm online on the eee pc now.  gnome wont start after the reboot
[14:14] <tras3> howto install oracle on ubuntu 8.04.1
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> gartral: warzone is in the normal repo
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> !info warzone2100
[14:14] <magnetron> tras3: please call the oracle support line. thank you.
[14:15] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV,
[14:15] <spectacular> (on the dell)
[14:15] <meth> god forbid i want to know how my system works
[14:15] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, ok, that means ati has taken away support for that gfx card
[14:15] <erisol> is there a way to apt install for just my user, so I don't neet do use sudo?
[14:15] <gartral> ActionParsnip: yes.. i know... but the version in repos is out of date, and you cant play online with it... ALL the games i mentioned are in repos, and ALL the games i mentioned are out of date in repos
[14:15] <rexes13> hey there i am new
[14:15] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, envyng -t then choose uninstall ati driver
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> staticRails_: we need the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:15] <rexes13> and i have a question
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> gartral: fair point
[14:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, press ctrl+alt+F1 to enter the terminal
[14:16] <rexes13> how can i get administrative previleges?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> gartral: mind you i was playing warzone 2100 in 1998 or so
[14:16] <jrib> !sudo > rexes13
[14:16] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, press ctrl+alt+F2 works aswell
[14:16] <gartral> ActionParsnip: me too :) i had the playstation version
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> rexes13: if you run the command   groups   and you are in the admin group, you have admin priveledges via sudo and gksudo
[14:16] <rexes13> oops
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> gartral: weird how it can be out of date for such an old game ;)
[14:17] <rexes13> forgot to mension
[14:17] <rexes13> i mean in gnome
[14:17] <erisol> ActionParsnip: what does gksudo do?
[14:17] <rexes13> not via a terminal
[14:17] <rexes13> i knew the way via terminal
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> erisol: its for running gui apps with elevated priveledges
[14:17] <erisol> ah
[14:17] <indus> gartral: maybe a launchpad bug saying to integrate latest patches to repos will be well accepted
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> rexes13: its still sudo for command line apps and gksudo for graphical apps
[14:18] <rexes13> well
[14:18] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: how can i send it to pastebin using command line ?
[14:18] <indus> gartral: for games i mean
[14:18] <rexes13> i wanna move an image to /boot and i cant
[14:18] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, it's possible to get a proprietary driver for your card, but it requires an older kernel release, so it'll become unstable
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> staticRails_: pastebinit <filename>
[14:18] <sky_1> rexes13: why you move it to /boot ?
[14:18] <jrib> !synaptics > erisol
[14:18] <sky_1> rexes13: you need root privileges
[14:18] <gartral> indus: that i goint to be seen as the largest pain theve ever had too deal with, we are literally talking 100+ games
[14:18] <rexes13> to make my Grub loader look a little bit better
[14:19] <indus> gartral: hmm maybe if i become a package maintainer, it will make it 99 games :)
[14:19] <bazhang> gartral, please file a bug; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:19] <zaphod_home> @rexes13: gksudo --> app= nautilus
[14:19] <sky_1> rexes13: easiest way is download startupmanager
[14:19] <sonypaulpeter> hi guys , i need some help with installing nautilus.
[14:19] <rexes13> from?
[14:19] <sky_1> rexes13: repo
[14:19] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, for the eee pc there's a guide here http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:compiz_on_eeexubunto
[14:19] <rexes13> sudo apt-get install startupmanager???
[14:19] <indus> sonypaulpeter: hmm install nautilus?
[14:19] <zaphod_home> or use xterm and type $sudo su
[14:19] <sky_1> rexes13: sure
[14:19] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, nautilus is standard, unless you are not in Gnome
[14:19] <staticRails_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/fd0cbf45
[14:19] <rexes13> ok ty for ya help
[14:19] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, ok i'm back in gnome
[14:20] <sonypaulpeter> im in gnome
[14:20] <sky_1> rexes13: command line version is -> as root cd to /boot and then cp file there
[14:20] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, then nautilus is there already
[14:20] <erisol> how do I find out my current x display information?
[14:20] <gartral> bazhang: read back, i wasn't talking about 3rd party games, what i said is Ubuntu relavent
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> use sudo -i   instead of sudo su
[14:20]  * UIS|Class is now away: Class
[14:20] <rexes13> ty mate
[14:20] <jussi01> zaphod_home: sudo -i rather than sudo su
[14:21] <rexes13> and last
[14:21] <sonypaulpeter> yes. i did a upgrade and after that my nautilus is not running. cant re-install. getting dependency errors
[14:21] <rexes13> where can i access it from?
[14:21] <sky_1> rexes13: dont understand question
[14:21] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: ahh fluxbox, i have been here before, its funny swiftfox seems to be the only thing running cpu wise if you know what i mean, and i rember i did like the look of it just need to learn how to use it, if its functional i think i might stick with it
[14:21] <zaphod_home> sudo su workes as well...
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: it has amazing hotkey support
[14:22] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: you mean shortcuts or Fn keys?
[14:22] <rexes13> sky_1: i mean where i can access the startupmanager??
[14:22] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, can i paste output here?
[14:22] <sky_1> rexes13: if downloaded it then type to consol -> startupmanager
[14:22] <rexes13> ok
[14:22] <sky_1> sonypaulpeter: no pastebin it
[14:22] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, paste.ubuntu.com
[14:23] <sonypaulpeter> ok
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: shortcut combinatins, you can map (for example) CTRL+ALT+T to a virtual F key (Like F14) then you assign F14 to whatever you like
[14:24] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i dont have eeexubuntu, just regular ubuntu
[14:24] <b1n42y> shit i just right clicked on clock and the menu wont disappear lol
[14:24] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/218924/
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> staticRails_: looks like the last few lines are interesting: intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Invalid argument
[14:25] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, you think i should roll back the dell to hardy or something?
[14:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, xubuntu is optional
[14:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/mobility-radeon-7500-ati-drivers-3.7.6-x-4.3-down...-156858/
[14:25] <Mylesmadness> I can not get java working from inside firefox. I have sun-java6-bin sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[14:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, found some info on getting the dell working
[14:25] <sky_1> sonypaulpeter: try sudo apt-get install nautilus*
[14:25] <rexes13> ty guys....c yaz around again...gonna do some translation of upstream in Greek
[14:26] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, what version of ubuntu is this? and are you using some 3rd party repos or PPA's?
[14:26] <qqq999> anyone in here use virtualization frequently? was wondering what they found better between VirtualBox and VMWare Workstation
[14:26] <zenlunatic> qqq999, xen
[14:26] <rexes13> I use veryoften Virtual Box
[14:26] <Severity1> VBOX!
[14:26] <Mylesmadness> I can not get java working from inside firefox. I have sun-java6-bin sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[14:26] <sonypaulpeter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218928/
[14:27] <blind|melon|chit> Mylesmadness: I'm guessing it's not working in Firefox 3.5
[14:27] <qqq999> I'm running XP atm, found that workstation had a hard time with bridged networking (so I had to use NAT)
[14:27] <indus> Mylesmadness: u using 64 bit?
[14:27] <Mylesmadness> indus, nope
[14:27] <sonypaulpeter> im using hardy
[14:27] <sonypaulpeter> ppa's of few players
[14:27] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, please paste.ubuntu.com of your sources.list
[14:27] <indus> Mylesmadness: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[14:27] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, if you reverted the dell to ubuntu 6.06 or earlier there would be no problem http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[14:28] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, otherwise you'd have to use the opensource drivers, which are buggy
[14:28] <Mylesmadness> indus, There is no program which provides java.
[14:28] <Mylesmadness> Nothing to configure.
[14:28] <xyz_test> configure nothing then
[14:28] <qqq999> so for those who use virtualbox, is there a way to possibly share an entire drive via Shared Folder (I'm assuming samba would be kinda slow even though it's LAN)
[14:28] <rohan> when is the next ubuntu LTS release?
[14:28] <rohan> is 9.10 LTS?
[14:28] <xyz_test> hmm
[14:28] <jrib> !lts | rohan
[14:28] <indus> Mylesmadness: u sure java is installed?
[14:28] <sky_1> Supersaiyan_IV: vesa driver should work ?
[14:28] <bazhang> rohan, 10.04 possibly
[14:28] <rohan> jrib: doesn't help.
[14:28] <jrib> rohan: noticed.
[14:28] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang how can i copy source list?
[14:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> sky_1, for DRI?
[14:29] <Mylesmadness> indus, Yeah
[14:29] <indus> rohan: 10.04 is LTS but might be deffered
[14:29] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, the dell had ubuntu 8.04 i think on it for a while and no problems.  then i had to replace its harddrive, which is why i did the new install.  should i put it back to ubuntu 8 then?  or use the opensource stuff?
[14:29] <indus> Mylesmadness: reinstall it then or use openjdk
[14:29] <xyz_test> whatever
[14:29] <xyz_test> just try it yourself kind a stufff
[14:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, i see, Mesa will do, it's no big deal really
[14:29] <rohan> indus: deffered? why?
[14:29] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, cat /etc/apt/sources.list ---> paste.ubuntu.com or install pastebinit and use the | pastebinit after the initial command shown
[14:29] <indus> anyone knows how to configure a remote for tv time?
[14:29] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, and i would like to keep the wireless working
[14:30] <bazhang> !lirc
[14:30] <bazhang> !info lirc
[14:30] <indus> rohan: i said it might be,depending on gnome versions etc
[14:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, but if you want official ati drivers you need to revert due to lacking kernel support, and ati ditching yout card support
[14:30] <rohan> indus: ok.
[14:30] <xyz_test> remote for tv time ?
[14:30] <blind|melon|chit> Is there any way I can switch the Java plugin used by default from the IcedTea version to the official Sun Java version?
[14:30] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, let's try mesa
[14:30] <indus> bazhang: thanks, yes its working ,but some buttoms wont work /or i need to configure
[14:30] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, type glxinfo, i think you have mesa
[14:30] <blind|melon|chit> The icedtea plugin is giving me graphics corruption in Firefox 3.5
[14:31] <indus> blind|melon|chit: yes type this sudo update-alternatives --config java
[14:31] <indus> xyz_test: yes
[14:31] <sonypaulpeter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218933/
[14:31] <blind|melon|chit> indus: I tried that, but that only changed the version of "java" that runs, not the plugin, as far as I can tell
[14:31] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, does it still say 'direct rendering: Yes' ?
[14:31] <blind|melon|chit> indus: i.e. if i run java -version now it states that it's the official sun version, the plugin is still icedtea
[14:32] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, yes
[14:32] <rohan> i have installed ubuntu 9.04 on a remote server. however, now i want to downgrade it to 8.04 because it is LTS. what is my best option? i don't want to again go to the physical server
[14:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, good, it wont get better than that
[14:32] <jrib> rohan: no options then
[14:32] <rohan> jrib: i can't remotely install over ssh?
[14:33] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, apart from having around 30 PPA's the fact that some of them debian ones are likely the cause of your issues
[14:33] <jrib> rohan: you need to reinstall
[14:33] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, as for the eee pc follow the tutorial in the ling, just ignore all the xubuntu stuff
[14:33] <rohan> jrib: yes, i want to do that. i know that downgrading isn't possible.
[14:33] <richardcavell> Is there a quick and easy way to change the user id of a given user so that all his owned files and folders stay attached to him?
[14:33] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, how can i fix it?
[14:34] <Supersaiyan_IV> link*
[14:34] <jrib> !install > rohan
[14:34] <lee__> how to join pple on other channels
[14:34] <LordLandon> richardcavell: change a user's login name?
[14:34] <richardcavell> LordLandon: No, change his user id
[14:34] <jrib> rohan: it would probably be much easier to have physical access but there may be some option for you on that wiki page
[14:34] <Sirisian|Work> I'm trying to grep my whole HD and put all the results in a folder. What am I doing wrong. It puts one line in the file and then the rest to the console. grep -r -i repair / > /tmp/foo
[14:34] <richardcavell> LordLandon: The number.
[14:34] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, first comment out the debian repos, and try again; with that many possible conflict vectors you'll need to gradually weed it out
[14:35] <sonypaulpeter> all of them?
[14:35] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, ok i'll work on the eeepc.  you think i should give up on the dell?
[14:35] <sale_> c.omega.bg
[14:35] <Munir> hello gurus
[14:35] <indus> blind|melon|chit: then remove the iced tea plugin/also i think there is a setting in firefox to change it
[14:35] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, the debian ones? there are only two or so that I can see
[14:35] <qqq999> zenlunatic: I'm assuming Xen differs from regular virtualization solutions.... I'm envisioning the following use-case scenario: *nix os base for the majority of my computer use, then booting up an XP machine, transferring resources almost entirely to it for the purpose of gaming. is it possible or feasible?
[14:35] <Munir> what is the best tool for software developement in Linux
[14:35] <Munir> ubnuntu
[14:35] <jwfoxjr> does anyone know of a good program to use to mulitplex multiple live audio streams into one?
[14:35] <jrib> rohan: don't forget to setup ssh before loading the new install
[14:35] <LordLandon> richardcavell: create a new user and chown everything
[14:35] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: it seems more responsive thats for sure, but i dont have my gnome weather etc but i guess you can get all that stuff working, do you use it yourself ?
[14:36] <richardcavell> LordLandon: There's no other way?
[14:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, the gfx card has completely phased out driver support, and the driver you have now gives you 3d rendering and dri for video playback, which is excellent as it is
[14:36] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, should i remove them all?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: on laptops, yes
[14:36] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, are you running 64bit or 32?
[14:36] <jwfoxjr> basically I have 3 icecast streams that I want to multiplex together
[14:36] <rohan> jrib: thanks
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: you can run the gnome weather if you want
[14:37] <rohan> how long are non-LTS releases supported for?
[14:37] <jrib> rohan: 18 months
[14:37] <erUSUL> Munir: what language ?
[14:37] <LordLandon> richardcavell: it's an easy way...
[14:37] <erUSUL> qqq999: winXP can not run on xen
[14:37] <richardcavell> LordLandon: There has to be an easier way
[14:37] <bening> what the program to run PS one on ubuntu
[14:37] <LordLandon> richardcavell: the FS stores user permisions by the UID, so you'd have to change those anyway.
[14:37] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, you can open the list with gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and place a # in front of the lenny/debian repos lines, then save and exit; sudo apt-get update and try again to install nautilus
[14:37] <rohan> jrib: ok, ty
[14:38] <plutxii> wanted to know if anyone used moblock or knew how to change which lists you use post install, i know there was that initial selection, but now i can't modify.
[14:38] <LordLandon> richardcavell: an easier way is not changing the UID.
[14:38] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i assume it's 32
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> rohan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[14:38] <erUSUL> Munir: i mean what programming language you use/develop in
[14:39] <LordLandon> richardcavell: actually...
[14:39] <LordLandon> richardcavell: usermod can do it.
[14:39] <Munir> erUSUL: currentlly i am developer of asp.net
[14:39] <Munir> i want to switch from windows to linux
[14:39] <coz_> guys I noticed that the sg3-uitls pacakge in jaunty is version 1.24-2  I need a version .xx or higher...anyway of upgrading that?
[14:39] <LordLandon> richardcavell: usermod -u, oddly enough does the chown on the user's home dir.
[14:39] <ForeverSmurf> is there a ubuntu server channel?
[14:39] <LordLandon> richardcavell: not on files outside of it though.
[14:39] <qqq999> erUSUL: thanks, I see... I guess no one has really tackled the gaming from a linux base problem, then?  I've tried wine, but it really doesn't cut it
[14:39] <coz_> I need version 3.xx or higher
[14:39] <erUSUL> Munir: then try monodevelop... is an ide for mono a free implementatio of .net for linux it includes asp.net iirc
[14:39] <erUSUL> !info monodevelop | Munir
[14:40] <LordLandon> coz_: compile it yourself?
[14:40] <indus> coz_: you can always download from the developer website no?
[14:40] <coz_> ok guys thanks
[14:40] <indus> !iirc > indus
[14:40] <erUSUL> qqq999: recent versions of VBox come with acceletrated opengl so maybe it is posible to run some games in a winXP install on virtualbox
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: here will support server
[14:40] <erUSUL> !vbox | qqq999
[14:41] <legend2440> ForeverSmurf: yes  #ubuntu-server
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> qqq999: some apps have native installers, some have loki installers
[14:42] <matrix_> hey i installed a language program from usb the file was setup.exe everthing went fine i run program but i dont have sound i get error no media found iam on ubuntu linux using wine
[14:42] <Munir> erUSUL: is there any link you recomend me to read
[14:43] <erUSUL> Munir: about mono ? linux programming in general ? there a re a lot of resources in internet just google around
[14:43] <Pici> matrix_: Those sort of questions are better answered in #winehq
[14:43] <Dunge> I'm trying to recompile the linux kernel in EABI mode from provided sources, I get to a point where it say "arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: not found" . This is the Cross-compiler. I found out that I could add emdebian.org to apt-get list and get it if I were on a Debian box, but what if I'm on Ubuntu??
[14:44] <erUSUL> Munir: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> matrix_: i'd check the appdb
[14:44] <matrix_> actionparsip:whats that
[14:44]  * blind|melon|chit doesn't understand Mono, is it really used that frequently on production servers or just for simple desktop apps?
[14:45] <richardcavell> I just did sudo usermod -u 999 richard    and now when I type 'id' I still get 1000
[14:45] <Dunge> or what was the channel specialized in cross-compile?
[14:46] <Severity1> lfs cross compiler?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | matrix_
[14:46] <Dunge> lfs?
[14:47] <Dunge> nah not linux from scratch
[14:47] <LordLandon> richardcavell: sure you're looking at uid, not gid? Worked for me.
[14:47] <Severity1> Dunge, ahhh nvm, i dont really know any channels here for crosscompiling
[14:47] <aaronvarghese> hi
[14:47] <Dunge> I know I once ended up on one
[14:47] <Severity1> but lfs has some materials regarding cross compiling
[14:48] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, its still same
[14:48] <blind|melon|chit> indus: I'll try that out...in the meantime would it be safe to simply make a symbolic link to the proper plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[14:48] <richardcavell> LordLandon: uid=1000 gid=1000(richard) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(richard)
[14:48] <indus> blind|melon|chit: hmm safe sure but not sure if taht works
[14:48] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, what happens when you try to open your home folder from Places menu
[14:48] <LordLandon> richardcavell: perhaps you can't do it on a logged in user.
[14:49] <vvvv> I installed grub on a usb flash drive and i am trying to let it boot the installer with preseed file, which are both on the flashdrive. loading installer works fine. but it doesn't want to load the preseed.
[14:49] <indus> blind|melon|chit: good lucks
[14:49] <dreamy> does anyone know is the new sis drivers support for ubuntu ? in this case de 672fx
[14:49] <Guest80127> umm..what is this irc chat about
[14:49] <richardcavell> LordLandon: man usermod says you can't change the name of a logged in user
[14:49] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang easytag 2.1.4 is opening
[14:49] <bazhang> Guest80127, Ubuntu support channel
[14:49] <vvvv> i use this: kernel		/jaunty/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux root=UUID=38a5477a-b0f7-4737-9114-cb1a138fc590 preseed/file=/preseed/test.txt
[14:50] <Guest80127> ahhhhhhh
[14:50] <blind|melon|chit> indus: Hmm, well what would be the best thing to do, copy the actual plugin directly in there? All the other plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins are symbolic links
[14:50] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, from Home Folder under Places Menu --> easytag app opens?
[14:50] <LordLandon> richardcavell: try doing it on a user that isn't logged in.
[14:50] <indus> blind|melon|chit: no dont copy directly
[14:50] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I only have two - myself and root. How do I run it when I'm not logged in?
[14:50] <indus> blind|melon|chit: use the symlink
[14:50] <LordLandon> richardcavell: make another user? Log in as root?
[14:51] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, yea it is.
[14:51] <richardcavell> LordLandon: How do I log in as root when I don't know the password? Ubuntu scrambles the root password by default
[14:51] <Sirisian|Work> Why does grep throw so many permission denies and recursive errors when it's seaching?
[14:51] <LordLandon> richardcavell: reset the password to something?
[14:51] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: because you don't have permission probably.  What are you searching exactly?
[14:51] <richardcavell> Sirisian|Work: You need to use sudo if you want it to have full access to your files
[14:51] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, what about simply typing :  nautilus in the terminal what does it do
[14:52] <Sirisian|Work> jrib, grep -r -i repair / > /tmp/foo
[14:52] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I suppose I can create a dummy user
[14:52] <Sirisian|Work> jrib, I'm running as root.
[14:52] <LordLandon> richardcavell: sudo passwd
[14:52] <richardcavell> LordLandon: And then log in as root from the login window?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> LordLandon: don't advise users how to reduce their system security
[14:52] <LordLandon> richardcavell: and sudo passwd -l after you're done, to disable the account again.
[14:52] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: pastebin
[14:52] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/218955/
[14:52] <LordLandon> ActionParsnip: see previous line
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> LordLandon: just use sudo -i
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LordLandon: significantly quicker and easier
[14:53] <LordLandon> ActionParsnip: he wants to change the uid of his account...
[14:53] <LordLandon> ActionParsnip: so he has to not be logged into it
[14:53] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, why or when did you uninstall nautilus
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> LordLandon: i'd do it in a root recovery console
[14:53] <richardcavell> LordLandon: and ActionParsnip: I'm thinking I should create a new user, restart and log in as that, and that sudo from that new account
[14:54] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip: Do you mean the bottom option on the menu.lst screen?
[14:54] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, i didnt uninstall. just upgraded when prompted to
[14:54] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang. just few mins
[14:54] <ugliefrog> someone say hello to me so i can test notification..... having issues tryong to work them out :) one or two is all i need
[14:54] <richardcavell> ugliefrog: Hello
[14:54] <buronas> does anyone know of a good boot disk for partitioning?
[14:54] <LordLandon> richardcavell: more like 1) create new user 2) add to sudo 3) log out 4) log in as new user 5) do uid thing
[14:54] <Ranakah> hello ugliefrog
[14:54] <Sirisian|Work> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m6c63874d
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: whatever line recovery mode is on, then select root
[14:55] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I like parsnip's idea more
[14:55] <ugliefrog> thanks but no luck....back to the forums thanks
[14:55] <khelvan> Hi, I'm fed up with Vuze and have installed Transmission, but I was in the middle of a large torrent download. Can anyone tell me where Vuze stores .torrent files so that I can resume the download with Transmission?
[14:55] <LordLandon> richardcavell: i like not restarting my 'puter to run a command
[14:56] <MidnightDevil> hi, i need an alternative for windows "RoyalTS" for linux... anyone knows any?
[14:56] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I don't think I have a choice. I can't be logged in when I run it
[14:56] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: just don't grep sys
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> MidnightDevil: rdesktop
[14:56] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, is there any way to fix this?
[14:56] <LordLandon> richardcavell: you have three choices
[14:56] <MidnightDevil> yea but thats doesnt show a server list in a centralized way
[14:56] <LordLandon> richardcavell: 1) login as root 2) login as different sudoer 3) reboot into recovery console
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> MidnightDevil: i don't know of one that can connect to multiple servers like royal ts
[14:56] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: or ignore the errors since it doesn't matter anyway
[14:57] <jrib> s/error/warning
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> MidnightDevil: but rdesktop can be used to connect to rdp services
[14:57] <bazhang> sonypaulpeter, I cannot imagine what would remove nautilus during an upgrade
[14:57] <Boohbah> MidnightDevil: freenx, tightvnc
[14:57] <Sirisian|Work> jrib, Is there a way to output the output to one folder and the error output to dev null?
[14:57] <legend2440> khelvan: /home/yourusername/.azureus/torrents
[14:57] <richardcavell> LordLandon: and ActionParsnip: Recovery console seems the most elegant way. I'm actually putting together instructions for Ubuntu newbies, so it needs to be idiotproof
[14:57] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: command > stdout 2> stderr
[14:57] <Sirisian|Work> oh cool thanks
[14:57] <sonypaulpeter> bazhang, its ok. i ll try some way out. thanks for your time
[14:57] <LordLandon> richardcavell: O.o what ubuntu newbies need to change their uid?
[14:58] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I maintain instructions for setting up Ubuntu on Macs. Many Mac owners try to keep OS X. Their userid on OS X is often 500, while on Ubuntu it's 1000. They have to change their userid to access their home partition on OS X.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> LordLandon: was kinda thinking that. ive never had to do it
[14:58] <sonypaulpeter> bye all
[14:59] <LordLandon> richardcavell: hmm o.O
[14:59] <richardcavell> LordLandon: They have to do it or else they can't access their files on the OS X partition.
[14:59] <richardcavell> from ubuntu, I mean
[15:00] <khelvan> legend2440 - thanks
[15:02] <richardcavell> LordLandon: In my /etc/passwd file, it has this line: richard:x:999:1000:Richard Cavell,,,:/home/richard:/bin/bash What does this mean?
[15:02] <richardcavell> The 999 appeared after I did sudo usermod -u 999 richard
[15:02] <LordLandon> richardcavell: that your uid is 999
[15:02] <wezzie1954> Hi. Can anyone help me get my sound back? I've just done a kernel upgrade and all my sound has gone!
[15:02] <richardcavell> LordLandon: But I type id and it says 1000
[15:03] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Maybe I need to reboot
[15:03] <buronas> soo does anyone know of a good boot disk for partitioning?
[15:03] <LordLandon> richardcavell: do ls -l ~
[15:03] <LordLandon> Do you own all the files in your homedir?
[15:03] <ubuntuisloved> can someone tell me if the 9.04 has the real cisco built in the kernel
[15:03] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Yep
[15:04] <LordLandon> richardcavell: then it got changed to 999..
[15:04] <richardcavell> LordLandon: richard richard all the way down
[15:04] <LordLandon> richardcavell: restart x.
[15:04] <LordLandon> richardcavell: or  do an id from a tty
[15:04] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Stay online, I'm going to reboot
[15:04]  * LordLandon sighs
[15:04] <LordLandon> People shouldn't be this reboot happy |=
[15:05] <ugliefrog> hello ugliefrog:
[15:05] <ugliefrog> cant say hello to self i guess
[15:06] <mazda01> LacobF, well, brasero used to come up and ask me what I wanted to do with the blank audio cd. I checked a box that said to open a audio project in brasero and I checked a box that said to never ask me again.  Now I want to change that. I can't find it!
[15:06] <mazda01> Problem here folks. brasero used to come up and ask me what I wanted to do with the blank audio cd. I checked a box that said to open a audio project in brasero and I checked a box that said to never ask me again.  Now I want to change that. I can't find it!
[15:07] <Avalon1> epitelous ta katafera telika htan sto xeri mou kalimera
[15:07] <Pici> !gr | Avalon1
[15:08] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I'm back
[15:08] <Avalon1> thanck you bye
[15:08] <LordLandon> richardcavell: for future references, you don't need to be so reboot-happy with linux. The only time you should be rebooting completely is for a kernel upgrade, or if it's irreprably unresponsive.
[15:08] <LordLandon> richardcavell: anyway. did it work?
[15:08] <richardcavell> Yes, that's what it needed
[15:09] <richardcavell> Or I could have restarted X
[15:09] <richardcavell> but my ctrl+alt+backspace is disabled
[15:09] <slayton> what are the available podcast clients available in the Jaunty repos
[15:09] <LordLandon> richardcavell: loging out restarts X; /etc/init.d/gdm restart restarts x...
[15:09] <Shubuntu> anyone gonna help me with pptpd in jaunty?
[15:09] <vadi> Since i installed ubuntu 9.04 i having problem with audio (sometime working sometime not) is this normal for version 9.04. Please note i did clean install not any upgrade
[15:10] <richardcavell> LordLandon: For some reason my terminal won't start after I've done usermod
[15:10] <LordLandon> richardcavell: ctrl+alt+f1
[15:10] <LordLandon> richardcavell: and it didn't start *because* you did the uid thing, probably.
[15:10] <richardcavell> Doesn't work. My F1 is a hotkey for brightness controls
[15:11] <LordLandon> richardcavell: ctrl+alt+f2
[15:11] <vadi> Since i installed ubuntu 9.04 i having problem with audio (sometime working sometime not) is this normal for version 9.04. Please note i did clean install not any upgrade. Any idea plz
[15:11] <richardcavell> LordLandon: No, my Fx keys are all hotkeys for my MacBook
[15:11] <LordLandon> richardcavell: so don't hold down the fn button.
[15:11] <EtherNet-> hello everyone
[15:11] <Slart> vadi: I wouldn't say normal.. no
[15:11] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I'm not holding it down
[15:11] <max_klemen> hello
[15:11] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Hang on, I have to reboot again
[15:11]  * LordLandon sighs
[15:11] <EtherNet-> anyone know what could be happening.... I hibernate the laptop and it seems to do it alright, but when I turn on the machine it doesn't boot from the image that hibernate has generated
[15:12] <max_klemen> I have a question about large ubuntu deployments, someone could help me?
[15:12] <vadi> slart: I was using version 8.04 it was very nice no problem with audio
[15:13] <marcelo> hi guys... i have a problem, my ubuntu is a dns server. I have to flush the dns but nscd doesnt exist... how do i flush this cache?
[15:14] <omar> s
[15:14] <max_klemen> I have to do a deployment o ubuntu  of around 50 pcs on a public organization
[15:14] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I'm back
[15:15] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Reboot seems to be necessary on my machine
[15:15] <omar> Hello which ubuntu version best to install ?
[15:15] <vigo> !best | omar
[15:15] <frostburn> max_klemen, go on
[15:15] <max_klemen> I don't know exacltly wich are the advantages of installinf LTS version 8.04 in this case
[15:16] <zamuj> marcelo: hi guys... i have a problem, my ubuntu is a dns server. I have to flush the dns but nscd doesnt exist... how do i flush this cache?
[15:16] <max_klemen> or the 9.04 version for full drivers support
[15:16] <omar> vigo: advice me
[15:16] <max_klemen> what do you think
[15:16] <legend2440> mazda01: open nautilus then edit>preferences>media where it says other media in dropdown box select  blank CD and select  Action
[15:17] <vadi> Omar: i am using verison 9.04 and have problem with audio and sometime pc is very slow
[15:17] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I still can't access my files on the other partition. Does this mean I need to change the gid as well?
[15:17] <vigo> omar: There is no best, there is recommended , that is the way I would go, if your box has X mem and X space and is XX years old or new, then there are a few options.
[15:17] <progre55> you guys know any free online file uploaders?
[15:17] <bazhang> !ot | progre55
[15:18] <frostburn> max_klemen, lts is good if you don't plan on upgrading your systems for long periods of time.  If i were doing a large installation like you, i'd probably use the latest version and plan upgrades every 6 months, a year at most.  Are all these installations on the same hardware, or all different kinds?
[15:18] <omar> vigo : I have laptop vaio with 250 Gb hdd + 4Gb of ram
[15:18] <indus> vadi: hi
[15:18] <indus> vadi: still notsolved?
[15:18] <vadi> Indus: Hi
[15:18] <max_klemen> the same hard, mainly
[15:18] <richardcavell> omar: What's your processor?
[15:18] <indus> vadi did u try what i told u? change to alsa?
[15:18] <vigo> omar: Most laptops use Xubuntu, the XFCE is very resource light. oh, ok, mostly home use or are you inclined to media applications?
[15:18] <vadi> Indus: No,
[15:19] <omar> richardcavell, core 2duo 2Ghz
[15:19] <mazda01> legend2440, thanks, but that's not it. That dialog box all says, "Ask what to do" already. It's a setting somewhere else. ANy other thoughts?
[15:19] <richardcavell> omar: You're sure it's Core 2 Duo and not Core Duo?
[15:19] <whileimhere> Hi is there a better cdr burner than k3b or brasero
[15:19] <vadi> indus: i tried it was working then when i restart again its not working
[15:19] <omar> richardcavell, core 2 duo
[15:19] <toriq> hi, anyone here have an old PC using s3 savage 4 graphic card? Mine cannot display resolution above 800x600 in Jaunty. I faced this kind of problem back then on Feisty and solved it. But I can't remember the workaround. I think it's related to xorg.conf setting? I searched around the forum and didn't find any clue.
[15:19] <indus> vadi: hmm
[15:19] <max_klemen> but what is then the advantage of the Long Time Support then?
[15:20] <richardcavell> omar:  Your computer can handle the current distro, which is 9.04. You can choose 32 or 64 bit.
[15:20] <vadi> Indus: Its not possible to install drivers from Via for sound, like installing in windows
[15:20] <richardcavell> omar: I'm using the plain distro on a laptop and it works fine.
[15:20] <indus> vadi: no need of installing anything, its already done via some modules
[15:20] <omar> richardcavell, its possible for exemple to install ubuntu on the external hdd N
[15:20] <gartral> alright... I installed a new sound card today... and I went into BIOS disabled the internl, came back into Ubuntu annnd the volume control applet in gnome panel has gone AWOL
[15:20] <indus> vadi: dont try installing any 'driver' in ubuntu> its all handled auto
[15:21] <richardcavell> omar: Yes, you can install Ubuntu on an external HDD
[15:21] <vigo> omar: I agree with richardcavell. 9 would work fine.
[15:21] <indus> vadi: and VIA definitely has drivers loaded already its open source
[15:21] <vadi> Indus: I didn't install anything till now
[15:21] <indus> vadi: dont ,just tell me what motherboard is it
[15:21] <frostburn> max_klemen, then that gives you the best opportunity to test an upgrade before distributing to many machines.  LTS means that patches will be delivered for 3 years after the initial release.  You'll be able to use version 8.04 until april 2011 with all updates.    The alternative is to do a full upgrade every 6 months to a newer version.
[15:21] <porter1> Anyone know where Evolution stores its data? I've tried deleting .evoution in my home folder?
[15:22] <indus> vadi: you do hear sound dont you?
[15:22] <omar> richardcavell, I have do that in my desktop but the problem my desktop always need external hdd to load grub
[15:22] <mazda01> legend2440, before jaunty, I saw a command in system, prefs, removable drives and media, there used to be a storage tab and an option for blank cd or blank dvd but it's gone in jaunty now. I  still have it my upgraded machine from mythbuntu hardy heron. it's /usr/lib/thunar-volman/thunar-volman-settings but a brand new jaunty install doesn't have this program so I am not sure where brasero has this setting checked. brasero opens a data cd
[15:22] <mazda01>  project automatically when I insert a blank cd and I don't want that.
[15:22] <vadi> Indus: gigabyte
[15:22] <wrwarwick> does anyone have any luck with the exchange mapi plugin for evolution?
[15:22] <indus> vadi: ok you chagned to alsa andit got reset to oss again?
[15:23] <omar> richardcavell, its possible for exeple let windows load grub in the internal hdd instead of external one ?
[15:23] <vadi> Indus: I think no
[15:23] <indus> vadi: go to preferences>sound
[15:23] <vadi> indus: ok
[15:23] <richardcavell> omar: I don't understand your question
[15:23] <omar> richardcavell, ok look
[15:23] <indus> vadi: select alsa
[15:23] <rhosigma> doesn anyon e use MuSE??
[15:24] <LordLandon> richardcavell: how is the other partition mounted?
[15:24] <johane> Hi huys
[15:24] <max_klemen> ok, thanks so much, frostburn
[15:24] <johane> Hi guys:)
[15:24] <LordLandon> richardcavell: what's it's entry in 'mount'?
[15:24] <hemanth> !hi | johane
[15:24] <vadi> Indus: Where in sound events
[15:24] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Mounted as "/media/OS X"
[15:24] <indus> vadi: devices
[15:24] <LordLandon> richardcavell: what's it's entry in 'mount'?
[15:24] <Goldy`> in simple terms, is Ubuntu 9.x less stable than older versions?
[15:24] <vigo> mazda01: Did you want to set a different application as the default CD/DVD application?
[15:24] <bluegoon> Hi guys, user reporting alot of screen tearing artifacts across screen using a Jaunty installation, any clues/
[15:24] <bluegoon> ?
[15:24] <billing> looooooo
[15:25]  * johane is wandering if there is eny ubuntu dev:)
[15:25] <vadi> indus: i will give screen shot
[15:25] <bluegoon> richardcavell: Howdy Richard :)
[15:25] <richardcavell> bluegoon: Hi
[15:25] <Bobik> sup?
[15:25] <richardcavell> Goldy`: No it's not
[15:25] <legend2440> mazda01: your usining thunar?
[15:25] <Goldy`> richardcavell, it isn't? so you're saying it is (as stable/more stable)?
[15:26] <richardcavell> LordLandon: it's mounted as "media/OS X"
[15:26] <richardcavell> Goldy`: Solid as a rock for me
[15:26] <richardcavell> Other users seem to say the same
[15:26] <pratik_narain> hello everyone
[15:26] <omar> richardcavell, right now I have windiows installed in my laptop I would like to install ubuntu on my external hdd , I am already dod that in my desktop I cannot boot windows without the external HDD because the desktop need external hdd to load grub then chose the system ubunto or windows
[15:26] <indus> Goldy`: yes its not as stable as 8.04
[15:26] <pratik_narain> i am on jaunty
[15:26] <vadi> indus: http://imagebin.org/55999
[15:26] <indus> Goldy`: for me atleast
[15:26] <omar> richardcavell, I afriad same problem being happen in my laptop
[15:26] <richardcavell> omar: sounds like you want to install grub on your internal hard disk
[15:26] <bluegoon> Would screen artifacts be an indication of hardware incompatability??
[15:27] <indus> vadi: play test
[15:27] <Goldy`> my question is, IN COMPARISON, is a user looking for stability better off using, say, 8.04 than 9.04?
[15:27] <bluegoon> Probably right?
[15:27] <omar> richardcavell, yes
[15:27] <indus> vadi: hear?
[15:27] <trae> anyone have a music player they like better than rhythmbox?  (and I don't mean xmms or any of those type things)
[15:27] <omar> richardcavell, but windows
[15:27] <richardcavell> omar: So go ahead and do that. It's not a problem
[15:27] <indus> trae: try banshee
[15:27] <richardcavell> GRUB can load Windows
[15:27] <indus> !info banshee
[15:27] <vadi> indus: nothing
[15:27] <omar> richardcavell, is there some version for windows ?
[15:27] <bluegoon> Damn onboard graphics, now I have to install a perfectly nice 8400GS in a Telesales machine..
[15:27] <richardcavell> omar: Normal GRUB can load Windows
[15:27] <indus> vadi: check volume icon on panel is not muted
[15:27] <pratik_narain> touchpad problem anyone there to help
[15:27] <vigo> !grub
[15:28] <trae> indus, kk
[15:28] <Dunge> seriously what does ubuntu have better than debian? I installed both and they have the same application, same packages possible to get, and debian allow for easier work with multi-architecture (arm and such)
[15:28] <vadi> indus: no i set it for 100
[15:28] <omar> richardcavell, yes but I have grub installed on my external hdd that I have installed ubuntu , I cannot load windows without connecting the external hdd on my desktop
[15:28] <vadi> indus: can you connect my desktop and check what is the problem
[15:28] <richardcavell> Dunge: They are pretty similar. Not much point in having both installed.
[15:28] <vadi> indus:  plz
[15:28] <indus> vadi: u sure your sound jacks are not connected to headphone etc
[15:28] <mazda01> legend2440, mythbuntu hardy heron did.
[15:28] <richardcavell> Dunge: Ubuntu has regular release cycle and the loss of other architectures might be seen as a good thing.
[15:28] <frostburn> Dunge, community support and ubuntu actively develops on user interface
[15:29] <trae> indus, I used musikcube on windows and it's nice and minimalistic
[15:29] <indus> vadi: how do i connect to your desktop
[15:29] <Bobik> I'll think about it
[15:29] <vadi> indus: if i log in to windows i hear sound so sound jack is not a problem
[15:29] <richardcavell> omar: What I'm saying is you want to install grub to your internal hard disk and then you won't have that problem
[15:29] <indus> vadi: ok
[15:29] <who> re
[15:29] <henrifromtexahom> is there a utility to move a program window from one monitor to the other in a  dual monitor setup?
[15:29] <johane> vadi:What sound card you have?
[15:29] <vadi> indus: like team viewer in windows doesn't exsist any software
[15:29] <richardcavell> omar: Or what you could do is change your BIOS boot order so that it auto boots from external hard disk if present, then internal hard disk. And reinstall Windows boot loader.
[15:30] <vadi> indus: on board sound card - from via
[15:30] <omar> richardcavell, when I install grub on my internal hdd I am never need to connect external hdd to my desktop for load windows
[15:30] <indus> vadi: i think johane asked it
[15:30] <Wazzzaaa> How can I permanently change the ssh login message? (such that it isn't reset after a reboot) ??
[15:30] <johane> vadi:Means you habe big problems:P
[15:30] <gartral> vadi: is this a laptop or desktop?
[15:30] <indus> ok i gtg cu in 30 min
[15:30] <vadi> indus:desktop
[15:30] <LordLandon> Wazzzaaa: the motd?
[15:30] <johane> linux has some problems with via
[15:30] <mazda01> legend2440, I said I upgraded from mythbuntu hardy heron to jaunty ubuntu. the remenants of mythbuntu stuff must still be installed and upgraded. the box I am having the issue on is a fresh install of jaunty so no thunar. i want to get that darn brasero popup again when I insert a blank cd-r but instead it automagically opens a data cd project. i have to close brasero everytime I insert a blank cd-r and I don't want to have to do that. ge
[15:30] <mazda01> t it?
[15:30] <vadi> gartral: desktop
[15:31] <Wazzzaaa> LordLandon: motd resets after reboot
[15:31] <indus> vadi: i have to go, gartral might help
[15:31] <indus> good luck and bye all
[15:31] <vadi> indus: thanks
[15:31] <richardcavell> omar: Correct. But I reckon a better option is to alter your BIOS boot order.
[15:31] <gartral> vadi: do you have both a PCI and an intergrated card?
[15:31] <matrix_> have anyone installed eurotalk
[15:31] <LordLandon> Wazzzaaa: change /etc/motd.tail
[15:32] <vadi> gartral: no only intergrated
[15:32] <omar> richardcavell, when I disconnect my E Hdd I have grub error show up so I need to connect  E hdd to reload the desktop then full grub menu show up to chose the system
[15:32] <LordLandon> Wazzzaaa: there's a script that runs on boot that rewrites /etc/motd
[15:32] <vadi> gartral: but i have tv turner card (MSI)
[15:32] <Wazzzaaa> thnx LordLandon, you know what script? Or where the script is triggered?
[15:32] <gartral> vadi: does said tv tuner have a built-in sound card?
[15:32] <LordLandon> Wazzzaaa: uhh
[15:33] <omar> richardcavell, but this will not apply when I desconnect the HDD should load the windows directly without showing up any error ,
[15:33] <LordLandon> Wazzzaaa:  grep motd /etc/init.d/*
[15:33] <vadi> gartral: if i plug directly to tv card when i play tv i can hear
[15:33] <Wazzzaaa> yeah, thnx LordLandon
[15:33] <Wazzzaaa> found it
[15:34] <gartral> vadi: so it does have a sound jack on the card?
[15:34] <vadi> gartral: yes
[15:34] <richardcavell> omar: Your best option is to reinstall the Windows boot loader then alter your BIOS options so that it will boot from external hard disk before internal hard disk
[15:34] <hemanth> coolbhavi: you there
[15:34] <gartral> vadi: with the headphones still in said card, can you hear any music player or play youtube vids and hear them?
[15:35] <omar> richardcavell, I will trying thank you
[15:35] <richardcavell> omar: good luck due
[15:35] <richardcavell> dude
[15:35] <coolbhavi> hemanth, yes
[15:35] <vadi> gartral: i cannot hear anything from youtube or anything
[15:35] <gartral> vadi: from either port?
[15:36] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I have a problem now mate.
[15:36] <vadi> wait i will check
[15:36] <vadi> gartral: wait i will check  please
[15:36] <LordLandon> richardcavell: sup?
[15:36] <gartral> no prob vadi :)
[15:36] <vadi> gartral: i need to reboot brb back in 2 mins
[15:37] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I've successfully altered my group id and user id to match that of my OS X partition. And when I type 'ls -l' on the OS X partition it gives me 'richard richard' for owner and group for all the regular files. But I still can't cd into the home directory
[15:37] <pgquiles> how do I cahnge the default runlevel? I've tried creating a /etc/inittab with content 'id:3:initdefault:' (as the upstart FAQ advises) but it still boots in runlevel 5. Do I need to run any command after creating /etc/inittab ?
[15:37] <LordLandon> richardcavell: what does it say?
[15:37] <gartral> vadi: I'll be timing you ;)
[15:37] <richardcavell> Permission denied
[15:37] <jrib> pgquiles: why do you want to change it?  And why is it booting to 5?  2 is default
[15:37] <LordLandon> richardcavell: did you give me the output of 'mount' for that partition?
[15:37] <matrix_> have anyone installed eurotalk
[15:37] <erisol> is it possible to inject a cd from the commandline, as opposed to just ejecting it?
[15:38] <richardcavell> LordLandon: What do you want me to type at command line?
[15:38] <LordLandon> richardcavell: 'mount'
[15:38] <Slart> erisol: isn't there a switch for eject?
[15:38] <LordLandon> richardcavell: also ls -ld /media/OS\ X
[15:38] <anom01y> !cups
[15:38] <pgquiles> jrib: I want to boot in console, not X
[15:38] <LordLandon> richardcavell: and ls -ld [your home dir that you can't cd to]
[15:39] <erisol> Slart, oh wait, I think there is
[15:39] <erisol> -t
[15:39] <jrib> pgquiles: runlevels 2-5 are identical by default in ubuntu/debian though
[15:39] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Hang on let me reboot cos it seems to fix things
[15:40] <erisol> is there a way to just cat the man page as opposed to using the man  viewer?
[15:41] <pgquiles> jrib: huh? a few years ago, 2 meant multiuser without network, 3 multiuser with network, 4 was unused and 5 was multiuser with network and X :-?
[15:41] <jrib> pgquiles: not in debian
[15:42] <jrib> pgquiles: anyway, do you want to boot to "no X" permanently?
[15:42] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I'm back
[15:42] <pgquiles> jrib: es
[15:42] <pgquiles> jrib: yes
[15:42] <jrib> pgquiles: just stop the gdm service from starting on runlevel 2
[15:42] <Bryantos> Anyone else have a G1 and is on irc with it right now?
[15:43] <jrib> pgquiles: I'm assuming you made a mistake before when you said your machine is booting to runlevel 5 and that it actually boots to 2
[15:43] <pgquiles> jrib: how do I do that? remove execute permissions from /etc/rc2.d/gdm ?
[15:43] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Okay, rebooting fixed everything, Lord. It works like a charm now. I can access my OS X directory from within Ubuntu.
[15:43] <jrib> pgquiles: you can use sysv-rc-conf
[15:43] <richardcavell> LordLandon: For the record, (and cos I know this channel's being logged) I'll tell you the correct commands
[15:43] <richardcavell> sudo groupmod -g 501 richard
[15:44] <pgquiles> jrib: yes, it's booting on runlevel 2. Back in the time, when I started using Debian (about 10 years ago :-) ), "boot with X" was runlevel 5
[15:44] <pgquiles> that's why I assumed I was booting in runlevel 5
[15:44] <richardcavell> (where 501 is the group on my OS X partition and richard is my Ubuntu username
[15:44] <richardcavell> and sudo usermod -u 501 -g 501 richard
[15:44] <richardcavell> LordLandon: simple as that. But you have to reboot
[15:44] <jrib> pgquiles: oh.  Since I've used debian (much more recently, their policy has been to make 2-5 identical).  I didn't know that it used to be different
[15:45] <LordLandon> richardcavell: more like log in and out.
[15:45] <Iceman_B|SSH> greetings
[15:45] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Well I don't have a login window so for me it's reboot
[15:45] <jrib> erisol: man foobar | col -b
[15:45] <Iceman_B|SSH> does anyone know how to mount a win2k8 share from the command line? I want to make a hdd dump via "dd" over the network
[15:45] <LordLandon> richardcavell: well, as long as it works for you, and you're happy.
[15:45] <gartral> vadi: I see your back :)
[15:45] <vadi> gartral: I removed the Tv card
[15:45] <richardcavell> LordLandon: You're not patronising me are you :)
[15:46] <gartral> vadi: ......... why?
[15:46] <pgquiles> jrib: thank you
[15:46] <LordLandon> richardcavell: q=
[15:46] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Only remaining issue is that usermod -u changes ownership of all files in home directory, but it doesn't change group. Still, that doesn't affect whether I can open them
[15:46] <vadi> gartral: to fix this sound problem.
[15:46] <jrib> pgquiles: no problem
[15:46] <alff21> do we know is winetrincks?
[15:47] <erisol> jrib, thanks
[15:47] <gartral> vadi: well you completely botched the test i wanted you to do...
[15:47] <LordLandon> richardcavell: easy to fix, if you want.
[15:47] <vadi> gartral: oh no problem i can put it back
[15:47] <richardcavell> LordLandon: I'm thinking chgrp ~ -R richard
[15:47] <richardcavell> is that right?
[15:47] <LordLandon> richardcavell: except the ~ goes at the end.
[15:47] <vadi> gartral: brb
[15:47] <benedikt> I have a router that servers about 700 clients. Is there a more user friendly tool than tcpdump to analyze netowrk traffic? E.g. finding out who manged to get the virus that booms out spam endlessly
[15:48] <strep_> hi everyone! im using jaunty and when i drag & drop a file into a folder on the destop, this file doesn't disappear from desktop.. anybody knows how to change this? gracias
[15:48] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Yep. They're all mine now!
[15:48] <jrib> benedikt: wireshark maybe?
[15:48] <LordLandon> richardcavell: (=
[15:48] <benedikt> jrib: preferrably gui-less..
[15:49] <richardcavell> LordLandon: And I can operate the OS X partition as easily as the Ubuntu partition now
[15:49] <LordLandon> richardcavell: k (=
[15:49] <cambazz> hello. how do I downgrade to the latest system upgrade
[15:50] <jrib> benedikt: only know of tcpdump... tshark turns up in google but I've never used it
[15:50] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Have you seen my Ubuntu installation instructions for n00bs? It's here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192296
[15:50] <cambazz> ubuntu made an update of the system, and now my development environment is crashing.
[15:50] <Slart> cambazz: you can't, afaik
[15:50] <richardcavell> LordLandon: For Intel Mac owners. I want it to be bullet-proof, so I need to think long and hard about what I write there.
[15:50] <LordLandon> richardcavell: i'm at work mate.
[15:50] <cambazz> Slart: how can I know what was changed in the latest upgrade
[15:50] <LordLandon> tl;dr;
[15:51] <LordLandon> cambazz: start with what's crashing
[15:51] <Slart> cambazz: I think apt has a log somewhere in /var/log, but I'm not sure
[15:51] <richardcavell> LordLandon: That's okay. I have the instructions here and I'll add them to my instructions now.
[15:51] <LordLandon> richardcavell: k
[15:52] <vadi> Gartral: I am back with TV card
[15:52] <richardcavell> LordLandon: Thanks for help.  Ciao.
[15:52] <gartral> vadi: ok, now do you have the tv tuner plugged in and in ubuntu?
[15:52] <vadi> gartral: yes
[15:53] <cambazz> Slart: well it installed java 6 update 14
[15:53] <gartral> vadi: open rythmbox (or your prefered audio player) and start playing something, leaving it play well you check the output port of both your intergrated sound card and the tvcard
[15:53] <cambazz> and i need to downgrade java 6 update 13
[15:54] <vadi> gartral: ok vlc is running and no noise
[15:54] <TheBase> hello
[15:55] <gartral> vadi: out of either sound port? also, doe your system have forward facing ports?
[15:55] <TheBase> Does anybody know a program to easily build simple websites?
[15:55] <cadman21> Can help me with getting a BELKIN wireless G desktop card to work on 9.04?
[15:55] <TheBase> 'Cause I can't stand to type all the HTML
[15:56] <vadi> gartral: could be please give me an example for forward facing ports
[15:56] <gartral> vadi: headphone port on the front of your computer
[15:56] <ojii> hi all, how can i start bash to already be in a certain folder (other than home) and that it doesn't show the very long path where it starts on the left side?
[15:57] <vadi> gartral: yes i have
[15:57] <Slart> ojii: there are switches/parameters you can use.. man bash would be a good start
[15:57] <Slart> ojii: or man gnome-terminal if you're looking to start a visible terminal
[15:57] <legend2440> !kompozer | TheBase
[15:57] <gartral> vadi: ahh... check them too
[15:58] <Severity1> gnome-terminal --working-directory=/home/ojii/Desktop --geometry=51x43
[15:58] <ojii> Severity1: I'm using the bash terminal from within eclipse, so pretty sure gnome-terminal won't wrok
[15:59] <vadi>  gartral: still the same no music (this is my TV card -http://eu.msi.com/uploads/prod_a24187f2a4f95b1f71c387bf1c811ba1.jpg)
[15:59] <gartral> vadi: check your forward ports, please
[15:59] <vadi> gartral: I checked still the same
[16:00] <cadman21> Can anyone help me get a BELKIN wireless G desktop card working on Ubuntu 9.04?
[16:00] <Severity1> well i believe you can prettymuch use the same idea on that
[16:00] <gartral> vadi: ok... can you run lspci and pastebin the output? (PLEASE use pastebin, and dont paste into the channel)
[16:00] <mazda01> legend2440, before jaunty, I saw a command in system, prefs, removable drives and media, there used to be a storage tab and an option for blank cd or blank dvd but it's gone in jaunty now. I  still have it my upgraded machine from mythbuntu hardy heron. it's /usr/lib/thunar-volman/thunar-volman-settings but a brand new jaunty install doesn't have this program so I am not sure where brasero has this setting checked. brasero opens a data cd
[16:00] <mazda01>  project automatically when I insert a blank cd and I don't want that.
[16:01] <trae> banshee won't let me just drag and drop music from a folder to it.
[16:01] <henrifromtexhoma> i am not  able to activate twin view ina  dual monitor setup
[16:01] <henrifromtexhoma> i get  a  faild to set meta someing error message
[16:02] <henrifromtexhoma> meta mode
[16:02] <LordLandon> trae: exaile is great.
[16:02] <henrifromtexhoma> it is   nvidia  softwar e
[16:02] <TheBase> legend2440, thanks
[16:02] <trae> LordLandon, I'll give it a whirl
[16:02] <henrifromtexhoma> any common causes to interfere with twinview?
[16:03] <sunny> hey guys i can use some help with my new linux... i need to install the ubuntu server edition on top of my ubuntu desktop so i can run a web server from my local PC can anyone help?
[16:03] <A|i> I just tried mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda by mistake (I meant sdb), I have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, it seems sda1 and sda2 are not formatted and the data is there, but did I lose my mbr now? would it my linux reboot now?
[16:03] <gartral> sunny: you dont need too install both
[16:03] <Slart> sunny: you don't need the server edition to run services.. just install apache on your desktop machine
[16:03] <gartral> sunny do a google search for Ubuntu LAMP
[16:03] <Slart> !lamp | sunny
[16:04] <trae> LordLandon++
[16:04] <sunny> but what about the DNS information and all an i do all that from LAMP?
[16:04] <ojii> Slart: the man page is 5000 lines and just made my head explode
[16:04] <trae> LordLandon, perfect mate....  that's a keeper.
[16:04] <gartral> Slart: someone should correct that factoid.. its... confusing
[16:04] <Slart> sunny: what dns stuff are you talking about?
[16:04] <amikrop> Hello. How can I unlock my public ssh key on login?
[16:04] <mazda01> when I insert a blank cd-r, brasero always starts up a data cd project and I don't want that anymore. how do I change that?
[16:05] <vadi> gartral: http://pastebin.org/1693
[16:05] <Slart> ojii: mm.. there is *a lot* of information in that man page..
[16:05] <sunny> my website url needs to have DNS information how would i be able to set that up so it points to my box
[16:05] <amikrop> I mean, automatically unlock my ssh key on login.
[16:05] <sunny> through lamp i mean
[16:05] <Slart> ojii: let me have a look at it
[16:05] <Slart> sunny: that's usually not done on your machine.. but on your internet providers dns
[16:06] <vadi> Gartral: http://pastebin.org/1693
[16:06] <ugliefrog> In firefox i keep gettinh "Please get Adobe Flash Player to display this content" I have it ! sometime it works and sometimes it dont. Whats the fix
[16:06] <sunny> o soo contact my net provider then... gotcha thanks bud :)
[16:06] <beilard> hey, when i try to replace kwin with compiz-fusion with "compiz --replace" it tells me that i do not have XGL and then it seg faults, what can i do?
[16:06] <sunny> verizon would be really pissed i called lol
[16:07] <gartral> vadi: I ee one slight hangup... your audio card is reported as a Via HDAC... im not sure how linux handles HDACs..
[16:07] <napzter> hello guys how can I, see all the processes in my UBUNTU and Stop a specific process just like Ctrl-Alt-Delete in Windows?
[16:08] <trashbarg> napzter: ps(1), top(1), kill(1), killall(1)
[16:08] <oldude67> napzter, open terminal and type in ps -e
[16:08] <vadi> Gartral: so is it not possible to fix ?
[16:08] <gartral> vadi: looking into that now
[16:08] <beilard> napzter: install htop "sudo apt-get install htop" and then run htop in the terminal
[16:09] <vadi> gartral:ok i am waiting for your advice
[16:09] <gartral> vadi: does aplay -l
[16:09] <napzter> so how can i kill the firefox result= 9415 ?        00:00:00 firefox
[16:09] <gartral> vadi: does aplay -l do anything*
[16:09] <trashbarg> napzter: kill 9415
[16:10] <trashbarg> napzter, or killall firefox
[16:10] <napzter> trashbarg: no changes...
[16:10] <beilard> napzter: killall firefox-bin
[16:10] <staticRails> i want to reinstall gconf... how to do it?
[16:10] <gartral> napzter: kill -9 9415
[16:10] <jrib> staticRails: why ?
[16:10] <beilard> napzter: or killall firefox
[16:10] <vadi> gartral : http://pastebin.org/1695 (aplay -l)
[16:11] <napzter> thnks
[16:11] <staticRails> jrib: I have some error messages which points it.
[16:11] <jrib> staticRails: ok.  But what would reinstalling it do?
[16:11] <erxin> i heard there is a special firefox for your hardware, is this true ?
[16:11] <jrib> staticRails: you should just share your error message and ask for help with that instead
[16:11] <gartral> vadi: lol.. please plug your speakers into the audio out on your soundcard and run that again, its an audio test :)
[16:11] <xcesarfrancox> Hi everyone, does anybody know how to recover a NickServ password?
[16:12] <LordLandon> erxin: it's a lie.
[16:12] <staticRails> jrib: it is about 12 hours that I am sharing the error messages here...
[16:12] <cfm> Hi all - I have a Pentium D machine running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS.  "uname -p" reports "unknown" for the processor type.  I have some software that appears to rely on this returning x86. Any idea why I'm getting "unknown"?
[16:12] <staticRails> jrib: I had just one problem. I think they are more than 3 now...
[16:13] <beilard> extor: there is swiftfox which is optimized for your processor
[16:13] <staticRails> jrib: the first problem which had occured after some works to solve other problems is:
[16:13] <erxin> I have standard firefox 3.0.1 on my ubuntu, i have updated to 3.5 the named changed to shiretoko 3.5, there are 2 version firefox 3.5 and the secure version does anyone have experience , do i need to remove the old firefox ? is shiretoko the latest one ?
[16:13] <staticRails> jrib: http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[16:14] <delusion42> Can someone help an Ubuntu/MySQL/ODBC noob get a working ODBC connection via unixODBC? I've edited /etc/odbcinst.ini with what I believe are the correct settings, but get "odbcinst: SQLInstallDriverEx failed with Invalid install path" when I attempt to install the driver
[16:14] <staticRails> jrib: the problem with my vga
[16:14] <FireVai> good day everyone....
[16:14] <gartral> erxin: firefox-3.5 can coexist with the "stable" one just fine
[16:14] <vadi> gartral: my speaker is allready pluged and same output like before
[16:14] <staticRails> jrib: r u there ? and can u help ?
[16:14] <FireVai> i just did a system update.. now i have several lines at the top of my desktop and my taskbar is kinda messed up.. any ideas how to fix this?
[16:15] <LordLandon> FireVai: does restarting X help?
[16:15] <jrib> staticRails: you have managed to confuse me.  How is gconf related to what you have pastebinned?
[16:15] <FireVai> LordLandon:  i restarted pc 3x
[16:16] <vadi> gartral: You there
[16:16] <delusion42> Asked another way, does anyone have any experience setting up MySQL + ODBC under Ubuntu that might be able to answer some questions?
[16:16] <LordLandon> FireVai: ah. That's no fun then.
[16:16] <staticRails> jrib: gconf was the first problem... and I do agree with you that this pastebin doesn't have anything with that.
[16:16] <FireVai> nope
[16:16] <gartral> vadi: ok.. run pkill pulseaudio; sleep 2; pulseaudio -vv and then alsamixer -Dhw and try playing something
[16:16] <FireVai> hmm
[16:16] <Iceman_B|SSH> how do I mount a win2k8 share ?
[16:17] <gartral> vadi: yes, Im not going anywhere, you just need too have a little patience :)
[16:17] <cfm> Ignore my question - looks like it#s intended behaviour in Ubuntu.  Will have to pursue with software vendor.
[16:17] <jrib> staticRails: here is what you have to do.  Pick one problem.  Pastebin relevant information (logs, error messages, etc.).  Ask the channel your question on one line and link to the pastebin
[16:17] <FireVai> ok well no worries.. i'm reinstalling in a cpl days.. so maybe that will fix it
[16:17] <staticRails> jrib: thx
[16:18] <staticRails> http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[16:18] <erxin> synaptic dont find swiftbox , do i need to update my reposities
[16:18] <Slart> ojii: hmm.. no luck so far.. one would think this would be easy
[16:19] <om26er1> !player
[16:19] <Slurpee> When I receive DHCP, DNS is never setup.  I always have to manually enter nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf
[16:19] <CodeFire> anybody thr??
[16:19] <Slurpee> it is really annoying because when I show up at a wifi network....I have to guess which is the AP or router which can do DNS for me.
[16:19] <CodeFire> Can anybody tell me how to set DPI while using KDE Environment
[16:19] <CodeFire> ?
[16:19] <ojii> exactly Slart... was a bit disappointed. i'd have expected something like: /bin/bash "/my/working/dir"
[16:19] <CodeFire> I mean in KDE env
[16:20] <Eloff> I set desktop effects to None, and the screen goes completely black except for a small strip of color near the top
[16:20] <Eloff> how can I recover my system now?
[16:20] <Eloff> (tried rebooting, but it kept the settings)
[16:21] <jsteel> When I use kexec on 9.04, the network interfaces aren't detected. What the heck?!?!?!!?
[16:21] <staticRails> anyone can help to reinstall the gconf?  I issued the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gconf" and I received "E: couldn't find package gconf"
[16:21] <CodeFire> login in recovery mode
[16:21] <CodeFire> i mean boot
[16:21] <vadi> gartral: when i run this command (pkill pulseaudio; sleep 2; pulseaudio -vv) will it take some time to finish the process
[16:21] <CodeFire> then simply
[16:21] <CodeFire> type rm -rf .*
[16:21] <Guest82599> @jsteel i think /etc/network/interfaces is bypassed from 8.10 onwards
[16:21] <CodeFire> that will make settings to default
[16:21] <gartral> vadi: uhh.. no.. it *should* be near instentanious
[16:22] <Pici> !who | CodeFire
[16:22] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i set up that compiz stuff like you said (on the eee) but it still didnt fix the firefox youtube problem.  what else can i do?  any way to be able to try the xorg.conf fix that i see when i google?
[16:22] <bobo> hey all, i wanna back up my quake 4 dvd, and when i copy it with AcetonelISO, it says i'll need a no-dvd crack for it, whats that mean?
[16:22] <bobo> Quake 4 game that is
[16:22] <staticRails> anyone can help to reinstall the gconf?  I issued the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gconf" and I received "E: couldn't find package gconf"
[16:22] <CodeFire> !tab
[16:22] <Eloff> where is the display settings stored for jaunty?
[16:22] <CodeFire> !tab Eloff i can help
[16:23] <vise> Hi.. I just installed this tiny 3d game called "Trigger".. But when i start it from the console, it says that the X11 driver is not configured for opengl, and exits... any ideas?
[16:23] <Pici> CodeFire: It means your tab key on your keyboard...
[16:23] <gartral> vadi: ok, go ahead and kill that terminal window
[16:23] <Eloff> hi CodeFire, I'd really appreciate that, thanks :)
[16:23] <staticRails> anyone can help to reinstall the gconf?  I issued the command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gconf" and I received "E: couldn't find package gconf"
[16:23] <trashbarg> ojii, something like /bin/bash -c "cd /your/dir ; /bin/bash" should work
[16:23] <Guest82599> \commands
[16:23] <vadi> gartral: ok i did
[16:24] <Guest82599> \help
[16:24] <bazhang> staticRails, gconf2?
[16:24] <CodeFire> Eloff, you can restore all display settings and others too by logging to root using recovery moe
[16:24] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, this isnt' just a little annoyance, youtube virtually does not work at all.   it barely doesnt show anything and really screws up the sound
[16:24] <jrib> staticRails: why are you ignoring what I told you?  Reinstalling gconf is unlikely to do anything
[16:24] <gartral> vadi: ok pkill pulseaudio and then pulseaudio -vv
[16:24] <Slart> ojii: it seems that doing "bash --noprofile --norc --login" will at least not change directory to your home folder but stay in the current one..
[16:24] <bobo> staticRails: http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/
[16:24] <Eloff> I'm in recovery mode now
[16:24] <CodeFire> Eloff, and type rm -rf .* in terminal
[16:24] <staticRails> bazhang: ya or every verstion.
[16:24] <jsteel> does anybody use kexec on jaunty?
[16:24] <vise> anybody knows what "X11 driver needs to be configured for openGL" means?
[16:24] <Guest82599> nick vic
[16:24] <CodeFire> Eloff, >> remember to put that "."
[16:24] <jrib> Eloff: be careful.  That deletes ALL settings
[16:24] <vise> which is an SDL error
[16:25] <staticRails> bazhang: the latest version.
[16:25] <Eloff> that's maybe a little harsh for me
[16:25] <vadi> when i run  pulseaudio -vv it stopped on I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink auto_null idle for too long, suspending ...
[16:25] <jrib> !fixres > Eloff
[16:25] <Eloff> I just want to edit or remove the display settings file
[16:25] <bazhang> staticRails, gconf2 is the package I am assuming
[16:26] <bazhang> staticRails, unless you mean gconf-editor
[16:26] <Eloff> Ah I think that will do the trick, thanks jrib
[16:26] <staticRails> bazhang: gconf2
[16:26] <vic_____> so I finally upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 last night
[16:26] <bazhang> staticRails, so install it
[16:26] <vic_____> and now going from 8.10 to 9.04
[16:27] <ojii> thanks Slart and trashbarg, a combination of that worked
[16:27] <Pici> staticRails: Why do you need to reinstall gconf? Reinstalling things in Linux rarely changes things.
[16:27] <gartral> vadi: ok... that means the system cant find a driver... go into Applications>Administration>Hardware Drivers and see if anything comes up (you will see one for your gfz card maybe one for tv tuner, and shoulld be one for audio
[16:27] <vic_____> curious to see if any of you guys encountered any issues with the upgrade process
[16:27] <ojii> Slart, trashbarg : /bin/bash -c "cd /home/jonas/django_projects/mysite ; bash --noprofile --norc --login" did the job
[16:27] <ubuntu> hello
[16:27] <Slart> ojii: ah.. nice..
[16:28] <twig11> I've installed a bible study program called xiphos which installs bibles, commentaries, and other books as modules either in /home/"user"/.sword for a single user or in /usr/bin/sword for all users. The xiphos GUI provides the option to do either, but installing into /usr/bin requires root privileges, so the option is disabled unless you're running as root or other users are allowed write privileges to /usr/bin. How do I allow r
[16:29] <fccf> twit11: add sudo to the install script
[16:29] <dsdeiz> how do i check for the dependencies of a package?
[16:29] <fccf> twig*
[16:29] <twig11> fccf: I have no idea how to do that.
[16:29] <Pici> dsdeiz: apt-cache show packagename   or apt-cache depends packagename
[16:29] <fccf> dsdeiz - rdepends packagename
[16:30] <aggie> Hi
[16:30] <fccf> twig11: when installing xiphos, did you use an install script?
[16:30] <Pici> fccf: That is for reverse dependencies
[16:30] <vadi> gartral: in hardware drivers i see only my nvidia card
[16:30] <twig11> fccf: No. sudo apt-get install xiphos
[16:30] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the package called that has the function command 'locate'?
[16:30] <aggie> I need to patch something on this URL http://people.ubuntu.com/~apw/lp314928-jaunty/0001-UBUNTU-SAUCE-drm-i915-Set-up-an-MTRR-covering-the-GT.patch
[16:30] <aggie> Just don't know hat to do
[16:30] <fccf> Pici: u'r right
[16:31] <gartral> vadi: alright.... let me do some more reseach
[16:31] <dsdeiz> Pici: nice thanks mate..
[16:31] <apw> aggie, what you trying to do?
[16:31] <vadi> gartral: ok i will wait
[16:31] <staticRails> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log => http://pastebin.com/f165ba75f   I have problem with my vga. I didn't have any problem with it till yesterday. but some changes broke it.
[16:31] <aggie> apw, Trying to fix a intel prob
[16:31] <aggie> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[16:32] <apw> yep i know the patch i ported it
[16:32] <staticRails> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log => http://pastebin.com/f165ba75f   I have problem with my vga. I didn't have any problem with it till yesterday. but some changes broke it.  the vga is onboard and the MB is Intel dg31pr
[16:32] <aggie> apw, how do I aply it?
[16:32] <fccf> twig11: if you did that then it should have installed to /usr/bin .. if it ended up in ~/.sword, then I'm confused
[16:32] <apw> aggie, which kernel do you ahv
[16:32] <apw> want to apply it to
[16:33] <aggie> apw, Linux 2.6.30-020630rc2-generic
[16:33] <jsteel> When I use kexec on jaunty, the network interfaces aren't detected. Does anybody use kexec on jaunty?
[16:33] <apw> aggie, why that specific release?
[16:33] <gartral> vadi: go into your mixer and make sure the sound is up and your not piping through spdif
[16:34] <apw> aggie, if you can run that one why not run the latest mainline kernel which would include the fix?
[16:34] <aggie> apw, that's what I installed
[16:34] <gartral> !info teatime
[16:34] <apw> aggie, thats == what ?
[16:34] <twig11> fccf: You install the book modules afterward from the app GUI. I do anyhow. Their documentation says they haven't implemented the ability to install modules with root privileges because implementation is different in different distros. So you either have to run the app while logged in as root or change permissions on /usr/bin.
[16:35] <aggie> apw, sorry, that's the kernel I installed :)
[16:35] <erxin> how can i increase the volume in ubuntu ?
[16:35] <apw> aggie, ok lets startt again, thats a well old page ... so which actual issue are you hitting?
[16:35] <vadi> gartral: i get error if i run alsamixer
[16:36] <twig11> fccf: That should have read "you either have to install the modules while logged in as root"
[16:36] <gartral> vadi: whats the error?
[16:36] <vadi> gartral:alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[16:36] <fccf> so run sudo xiphos or better yet gksudo xiphos to run the program as root to install the modules then close and restart
[16:36] <aggie> apw, I'm trying to to get Ubuntu to work with a brookdale 82845g/GL intel video driver
[16:36] <aggie> apw,  If I move a window arround it delays
[16:37] <aggie> apw, like when you finish solitaire in windows
[16:37] <aggie> ;)
[16:37] <vadi> gartral: now alsamixer command is working and everything is 100% up
[16:38] <twig11> fccf: does gksudo work on any GUI app?
[16:38] <apw> well rather than including 2.6.30-rc2 which is well old you might as well pick up 2.6.31-rc3 and that should have the mtrr fix you are trying to get
[16:38] <dsdeiz> how to disable screen from sleeping?
[16:38] <fccf> twig11: yep, for the most part
[16:38] <vise> dsdeiz, Power options in preferences in system
[16:39] <rickard> is there any way I can access smb://rickard01/backup/ from the shell?
[16:39] <apw> and i would recommend instead of taking random packages from debian and expecting it to work you might want to try the packages in the x-edgers PPA
[16:39] <CodeFire> HOW can i change DPI in KDE environment???
[16:39] <twig11> fccf: Thanks, I'll try that.
[16:39] <gartral> vadi: check your preferences and make sure everything is shown, then re check that everything is both up, and *any* boxes pertaining to SPDIF are UNchecked\
[16:39] <dsdeiz> vise: is it possible using the terminal? :S
[16:40] <TwoToneSpirit> Can anybody suggest a streaming video server for Ubuntu?  I don't really know how it works and how it interacts with the rest of LAMP.
[16:40] <BrixSat> hello how do i port forward onm iptables?
[16:40] <vise> dsdeiz, No idea..
[16:40] <vise> dsdeiz, Google?
[16:40] <aggie> apw, sorry man, I'm a regular noob eventhough I've been working with Ubuntu since 4 years now. But what you're saying is hocus pocus for me
[16:40] <fccf> TwoToneSpirt: Flumotion is what I use ... there is also a LAMP stack running next to it
[16:41] <dsdeiz> vise: is the correct term "sleep" hehehe
[16:41] <apw> aggie, the page you are following pulls all random crap from other distros together into your machine
[16:41] <fccf> TwoToneSpirit: you will want to use the flumotion debs from their repository
[16:41] <unop> rickard, smbclient
[16:41] <vise> dsdeiz, Yes.. why do you want to do it from the terminal?
[16:41] <apw> aggie, thats a recipie for pain in the future.  i would tend to say if you have something which doesn't work X wise then the first thing to do is to talk to the people on #ubuntu-x and see what they think
[16:41] <aggie> apw,  I got that part
[16:42] <aggie> true
[16:42] <TwoToneSpirit> fccf: Right on, thanks.  What do you like about it?  What exactly does it do that simply hosting an FLV and a flash player won't?
[16:42] <aggie> will do
[16:42] <gartral> vadi: beyond that.. if you still cant get sound out of your system, I recommend filling a bug report asking that Ubuntu Devs to impliment the newest drivers for sound, as it seems your hitting a snare, a nasty one: the drivers arent included in the kernal
[16:42] <aggie> apw, thanks for the help
[16:42] <apw> aggie, they have a repository for backports for X stuff called X-edgers, which is all new but built specifically for ubuntu systems
[16:43] <apw> which at least are meant to work together, so that might be a better step one, but i would ask before bunging on a load of stuff at random ... scarey
[16:43] <apw> those pages should have a life of a few days really, given they have 'the latest is' written in them
[16:43] <vadi> gartral: please check the screen shot (http://imagebin.org/56006) everything is good
[16:43] <vadi> gartral: so its a bug
[16:44] <Tetracomm> Is it worth it to bother making rescue floppies anymore?
[16:44] <jrib> Tetracomm: no
[16:44] <Pici> Tetracomm: None of the computers I use even have a floppy drive anymore.
[16:44] <hantu> hey i just installed bt4 on usb but it has deleated the mbr on my hard drive for ubuntu is there any way i can get my mbr back??
[16:44] <klown> people still have floppy drives?
[16:44] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[16:44] <Tetracomm> I still have one. :)
[16:44] <klown> wow.
[16:44] <fccf> TwoToneSpirit: Firstly, it will do both VOD or Live stream, and it has it's own java virtual machine that is the player... it streams Theora Encoded OGG Video and can support 1000 simultainous users... and it is free... nice UI as well, uses gstreamer, and my streaming audio server has been running for 35 days without reboot
[16:44] <gartral> vadi: it looks that way, but in your sound preferences window, hit ctrl-p and make sure all your options are checked
[16:45] <Trijntje> i have a floppy on an old pc
[16:45] <progre55> hi people! does anyone know what engine to install to add transparency support to themes? cause I have installed a theme that is supposed to fade windows when not active, but it's not working.. appreciate any help
[16:45] <sharrell> sorry to bother you guys, I haven't been able to google this, but what does LUM stand for?
[16:46] <fccf> sharrell: do you mean LVM?
[16:46] <Paavi2_0> progre55: are you using gnome?
[16:46] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, ok, did you install flashplayer, or did firefox do that automatically?
[16:46] <sharrell> fccf: nope, I mean LUM, it has to do with kernel packaging, I am on a mailinglist
[16:46] <sharrell> fccf: and I heard it htere
[16:46] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i installed flashplugin
[16:47] <cycrosism> how do i set a password to root - there is none set yet
[16:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, try uninstalling it
[16:47] <Paavi2_0> sharrell: maybe license use management?
[16:47] <camt> sharrell: license use management?
[16:47] <vise> cycrosism, sudo passwd
[16:47] <Slart> !root | cycrosism
[16:47] <Slart> !supportroot | vise
[16:47] <progre55> Paavi2_0, hep
[16:47] <cycrosism> umm i know
[16:47] <progre55> yep*
[16:47] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, though i did that after already noticing the problem, thinking it might help.  it made no difference with or withuot it
[16:47] <Paavi2_0> !sudo
[16:47] <fccf> sharrell: I think it is Linux Ubuntu Modules .. could be wrong
[16:47] <cycrosism> thats why isaid there is none yet]
[16:47] <vise> Slart, Ok ok.. sorry :)
[16:47] <klown> sharrell: also look at http://www.datastat.com/sysadminjournal/netware/lum.html
[16:47] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, try installing flashplugin-nonfree instead of the installer one
[16:48] <cycrosism> ty vise
[16:48] <Paavi2_0> progre55: lucky guess: compiz-fusion
[16:48] <vise> cycrosism, There is.. it is hidden...
[16:48] <TwoToneSpirit> fccf: sold :-)  Thank you very much
[16:48] <vise> cycrosism, No dont try that...
[16:48] <Pici> vise, cycrosism: not hidden, locked.
[16:48] <cycrosism> vise, dont try what? i said thank you
[16:48] <progre55> Paavi2_0, but I do have compiz, and I have set it to normal.. or should I customize it?
[16:48] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, that's the one i have
[16:48] <vise> cycrosism, Setting the root password
[16:48] <cycrosism> why?
[16:48] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, ok
[16:48] <cycrosism> I just did set it
[16:49] <fccf> TwoToneSpirit: just remember to install from flumotion's repository... they work, the ubuntu repos are not so well maintained
[16:49] <Paavi2_0> progre55: guess so, almost everything needs to bee configured
[16:49] <vise> !supportroot | cycrosism
[16:49] <progre55> Paavi2_0, got it. thanks man
[16:49] <Hylian> hello, i have gparted installed, and ntfsprogs, but gparted still doesn't give me the ntfs format option...??
[16:49] <cycrosism> vise, could of told me that bfore
[16:49] <Paavi2_0> progre55: is the theme you're using an emerald theme?
[16:49] <vadi> gartral: its still the same. Well i think version 9.04 is not a good version for my pc
[16:49] <vic_____> !help
[16:49] <vise> cycrosism, Someone did.. you didnt see!
[16:49] <cycrosism> unfortunalty i dont happen to be at my computer 24/7 to give people help on it
[16:50] <Paavi2_0> progre55: ...or just a gtk theme?
[16:50] <progre55> Paavi2_0, no, it's a gtk2x theme..
[16:50] <vic_____> no man its the other way around
[16:50] <vadi> gartral: may be i should install 8.04
[16:50] <kniht> is there a way to add a wordwrap button to gedit (perhaps a plugin?) so I can toggle wrapping per document?
[16:50] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, this could be a bug, go to youtube, run your video, then run your mouse over the video
[16:50] <aggie> apw, no one on x-ubuntu, can you just tell me how to apply the patches?
[16:51] <SingAlong> I'm not able to play VCD format .dat files in linux
[16:51] <apw> aggie, the patch you pointed me to is one of mine, rather than try and apply that to -rc2 i would recommend you use the mainline kernel for 2.6.31-rc3 which has that fix already
[16:51] <SingAlong> ubuntu version 9.04
[16:51] <Drakeson`> how can I trigger the equivalent of dpkg-reconfigure -plow  with aptitude install ?
[16:52] <grunt> Is there a lib32 of libXinerama.so.1: for x86_64 ubuntu?
[16:52] <vic_____> are u using vlc?
[16:52] <aggie> apw,  where doi I get that?
[16:52] <vic_____> and have all the codecs
[16:52] <apw> aggie, same place you to the other one
[16:53] <Agion> hi, would anyone want to help me configure my X? I'd really appreciate that!
[16:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, also, are you sure your powermanager hasnt downlclocked your processor? look at the output from 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
[16:53] <bazhang> SingAlong, did you install all the necessary codecs?
[16:53] <apw> aggie, the mainline builds archive
[16:53] <SingAlong> vic_____: I tried VLC, Xine and Mplayer. Mplayer starts and then there's an error
[16:53] <SingAlong> bazhang: Yes I did.
[16:53] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras and a package from medibuntu.org SingAlong ?
[16:53] <SingAlong> bazhang: how do I enable that repo?
[16:53] <aggie> apw, thnx
[16:54] <vise> How do i configure my intel gm965 driver (dell insp. 1525) for opengl to do gaming?
[16:54] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, you should also have eeepc-acpi-scripts installed on your laptop
[16:54] <SingAlong> bazhang: I installed stuff via synaptic
[16:54] <bazhang> SingAlong, no need for the repo, just the w32codecs.deb
[16:54] <cambazz> hello. how do I install sun java6 with apt get but the previous version
[16:54] <SingAlong> bazhang: I tried doing sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[16:54] <erUSUL> vise: it shoud be configured for that by default but ...
[16:54] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, there are a few nice eee pc tools in the repo's, just search 'eee'
[16:54] <erUSUL> !intel | vise
[16:54] <SingAlong> bazhang: but it says that the pkg has been removed or is obselete and hence not found
[16:55] <bazhang> SingAlong, if you visit medibuntu.org they have instructions on the site
[16:55] <staticRails> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log => http://pastebin.com/f165ba75f   I have problem with my vga. I didn't have any problem with it till yesterday. but some changes broke it.  the vga is onboard and the MB is Intel dg31pr
[16:55] <vise> erUSUL, intrepid?
[16:55] <vic_____> hey singalong
[16:55] <vic_____> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[16:55] <vadi> bye bye ubuntu for ever
[16:55] <erUSUL> vise: in intrepid there is no such problems afaik so it should work out of the box
[16:55] <fccf> another happy customer
[16:55] <SingAlong> vic_____: thanks bazhang thanks
[16:55] <SingAlong> vadi: bye bye?
[16:55] <vise> erUSUL, A game called "trigger" gives an error
[16:56] <staticRails> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log => http://pastebin.com/f165ba75f   I have problem with my vga. I didn't have any problem with it till yesterday. but some changes broke it.  the vga is onboard and the MB is Intel dg31pr
[16:56] <vic_____> You really love that game eh?
[16:56] <davidfetter> hello
[16:56] <staticRails> ANY IDEA???
[16:58] <staticRails> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log => http://pastebin.com/f165ba75f   I have problem with my vga. I didn't have any problem with it till yesterday. but some changes broke it.  the vga is onboard and the MB is Intel dg31pr. ANY IDEA???
[16:58] <erUSUL> vise: what error ?
[16:59] <spectacular> Supersaiyan_IV, i got disconnected for a sec. did i miss anything?
[16:59] <vic_____> staticRails what changes did you make to the system?
[17:00] <vic_____> does it work in recovery mode?
[17:00] <SingAlong> bazhang: I followed the instructions and added the repos.
[17:00] <vic_____> would you be able to diff your xorg.conf files?
[17:00] <bazhang> SingAlong, okay, you can do that too
[17:00] <Hylian> hey guys, is there a way to get system info from the live cd?
[17:00] <SingAlong> bazhang: Now SHould I install w32codecs or w64codecs?
[17:00] <bazhang> SingAlong, though in this case you could simply download the .deb package
[17:00] <SingAlong> bazhang: I'm running a 64bit ubuntu
[17:00] <vic_____> no w32codecs is old stuff
[17:00] <vic_____> you need the gstreamer plugins
[17:00] <bazhang> SingAlong, w64 of course
[17:01] <staticRails> vic_____: I thing reinstalling the vga driver caused the problem
[17:01] <vic_____> afaik anyways
[17:01] <bazhang> vic_____, he has all the restricted-extras already though
[17:01] <Hylian> gstreamer is nice unless you want to watch advd
[17:01] <vic_____> i see
[17:01] <[gloom]> hi there
[17:01] <spree> If I can run 64-bit ubuntu, i can reinstall and run 32 bit ubuntu on the same machine, correct? I am getting rather sick and tired of selective compatibility issues with 3rd party proprietary software
[17:01] <Supersaiyan_IV> spectacular, pm
[17:02] <bazhang> spree, sure you can, with a reinstall
[17:02] <staticRails> vic_____: the recovery mode is working and I am in its menu now
[17:02] <mrdark> hello all. i could use some assistance with running a vpn server on ubuntu 8.04.2, clients can connect and get an ip and do internal things but can't get anything on the outside (internet)
[17:02] <bazhang> spree, back up first of course
[17:02] <logankoester> is the firefox package 3.5 in the repository yet?
[17:02] <bazhang> logankoester, yes
[17:02] <Pici> !ff35 | logankoester yes
[17:02] <snarkster> im trying to compile libroadnav0.19 i do ./configure and then make and it responds with no make file found. isnt configure supposed to configure the makefile?
[17:02] <[gloom]> is it possible to use kismet with a Dell1395 wireless card (BCM4312) using the "wl" driver??? What should I use as the source type in the kismet.conf file??
[17:03] <logankoester> bazhang your answer conflicts with ubottu's
[17:03] <vic_____> hey staticrails, try this link
[17:03] <vic_____> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=663910
[17:03] <Hylian> say is there a way to get system specs from the ubuntu live cd, something like sysinfo for windows
[17:03] <vic_____> it talks about rolling back vga deivers
[17:03] <logankoester> i'm not asking about the firefox-3.5 package
[17:03] <bazhang> logankoester, err not really no
[17:03] <Pici> logankoester: It sounded like you were.
[17:03] <staticRails> vic_____: ok
[17:03] <SingAlong> bazhang: it plays fine now thanks
[17:04] <Pici> logankoester: Can you explain what you're looking for?
[17:04] <vic_____> solid :D
[17:04] <bazhang> SingAlong, great
[17:04] <navatwo> all of my desktop icons are gone, how would I get them back?
[17:04] <logankoester> Pici: presumably the firefox package will be firefox-3.5 at some point
[17:04] <spree> bazhang good to hear. I have an ancient Automatix install on here anyway that there's no way to get rid of without a reinstall. It's about time. Plus, so many things have been a hack to get to work it's really annoying and there's stability issues with things like flash and its oss variants, google earth, and google gears. definitely time for a fresh install.
[17:04] <bazhang> in Karmic logankoester official branding
[17:05] <Pici> logankoester: Not in Jaunty.  It will set in the next version of Ubuntu though.
[17:05] <logankoester> that's the answer i was looking for
[17:05] <logankoester> thanks
[17:05] <navatwo> all of my desktop icons are gone, how would I get them back?
[17:05] <mrxyz> How do I turn all lines in a text file into only one long line?
[17:06] <bazhang> navatwo, app launchers?
[17:06] <navatwo> bazhang: no like the desktop itself, all my folders etc that are usually there, they aren't
[17:06] <tharvey> recently updated to 9.04 and have been happy for a few days, yesterday an update came through for dbus and after the required reboot system hangs right after login with black screen - any ideas?
[17:06] <navatwo> they are when I browse to them, but not otherwise
[17:07] <vic_____> mrxyz: sed -e :a -e '$!N;s/\n/" "/;ta' -e 'P;D' inputfile.txt > outputfile.txt
[17:07] <gartral> I wish people wouldn be so uick to dismiss linux as a failure
[17:08] <Pici> gartral: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:08] <njh> linux is a failure :)
[17:08] <staticRails> vic_____: all the hints there needs gdm started...
[17:08] <pipegeek> It seems like OpenOffice.org in jaunty can't open Microsoft Office 2003 XML files
[17:08] <pipegeek> is this the case?
[17:08] <pipegeek> and if so, how do I get them to open?
[17:08] <pipegeek> is there an open source office program that *does* speak office 2003 xml?
[17:08] <staticRails> vic_____: my problem is the gdm... it is not starting at all
[17:09] <fccf> !enter | pipegeek
[17:09] <vic_____> i see, you are in recovery mode right now
[17:09] <navatwo> all of my desktop icons are gone, how would I get them back?
[17:09] <vic_____> and is x running?
[17:09] <cdavis> I installed open-vm-tools and it broke eth0, if I reboot, /etc/init.d/udev restart and then restart networking it will work again, but a simple reboot won't work?
[17:09] <zenwryly> I can't figure out how to turn on the serial bluetooth service.  I think  it used to be in the bluetooth preferences.  Any clues?
[17:10] <brahle> hi
[17:10] <brahle> can somebody please tell me how to change the ugly panels?
[17:11] <brahle> [i am a noob]
[17:11] <vic_____> staticrails I have an idea : try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:11] <njh> brahle: ugly panels?
[17:11] <Hylian> anyone here use xsane? how do you control the quality, i know my device has several scan options for quality.
[17:11] <BABER> how can make tar archive from 2 dir ? i use this command tar zxvf test.tar.gz kav 123  is this true?
[17:11] <vic_____> this will launch the xorg configuration that you first did when you installed ubuntu
[17:11] <mrdark> brahle, you can download a large variety of themes from gnome-look.org, or use preinstalled themes by clicking system/preferences/appearance.
[17:11] <staticRails> vic_____: I have tried it before
[17:11] <brahle> njh: you know, the the two rows on the top and the bottom of the screen
[17:11] <mestny> tar -czvf dir1 dir2
[17:11] <njh> BABER: no, x means extract
[17:12] <gartral> Hylian: i havent used xsane in years, but man xsane should help you out
[17:12] <njh> brahle: right click on them?
[17:12] <mrxyz> vic_____: Thank you, I will try it out.
[17:12] <BABER> njh: what's true?
[17:12] <njh> BABER: you want czf tarfile.tgz file file
[17:12] <brahle> mrdark, yeah, i'm aware of that page
[17:12] <njh> I think that is sufficient
[17:12] <staticRails> vic_____: ... but I think there is a problem with thiss.
[17:13] <navatwo> all my desktop icons are gone after gnome-panel crashed. Anyone have any ideas on how to get them back?
[17:13] <brahle> njh, that just allows me to change color.
[17:13] <Hylian> ok ill try that, but i looked before and it mostly covered operations, i know how to use the program, i just want to control quality, ill look again though... thanx
[17:13] <mestny> BABER: thats right: tar -czvf dir1 dir2
[17:13] <vic_____> what do you mean?
[17:13] <njh> BABER: there is also append 'a' which adds to the end
[17:13] <njh> brahle: your question is too vague
[17:13] <brahle> i would like to have something like a mac-os x launcher
[17:14] <njh> brahle: ah, no idea then
[17:14] <bazhang> brahle, a dock?
[17:14] <staticRails> vic_____:  all the messages I receive when I try this command are related to keyboard... maybe they are between 5 to 10.
[17:14] <gartral> brahle: its called a dock
[17:14] <njh> brahle: you might try system->preferences->appearance
[17:14] <gartral> !dock | brahle
[17:14] <staticRails> vic_____:  and I just select ok..
[17:14] <brahle> ok... i know it's called a dock...
[17:14] <vic_____> hmm
[17:14] <brahle> i actually installed AWN but don't know how to start it...
[17:15] <mestny> brahle: try this: http://www.kimchikid.com/blog/2008/04/06/how-to-make-a-gorgeus-and-cool-desktop-for-your-ubuntu-linux-machine-in-30-minutes/
[17:15] <vic_____> maybe its a hardware issue, maybe try a different keyboard?
[17:15] <bazhang> brahle, cairo-dock, avant-window-navigator are two
[17:15] <gartral> brahle: you need too enable compiz too use AWN
[17:15] <brahle> gartral, did that
[17:15] <gartral> brahle: hit alt-f2 and run AWN
[17:15] <erxin> i want to use a dock, i have a few options, the most i liked is Cairo and Avant which one is better ?
[17:15] <gartral> actually awn
[17:16] <Pici> !best | erxin
[17:16] <brahle> gartal: thank you very much! :)
[17:16] <erxin> Pici: thanks :)
[17:16] <gartral> erxin: awn has the drawback of you can only use it on the bottom of your screen
[17:16] <vic_____> !sucks | vic
[17:16] <dreamy> there the new sis drivers .. does anyone care?
[17:17] <brahle> to start it up wen linux starts, i just add it in startup applications, right?
[17:17] <vic_____> !"eat vic" | vic
[17:17] <Pici> !botabuse | vic_____
[17:17] <root> exit
[17:17] <erxin> oke another question, i have installed the cairo dock in the bottom, but there is also a gnome dock, how do i remove the gnome dock in the bottom ?
[17:17] <root> 
[17:17] <vic_____> lol thanks
[17:18] <vic_____> it is pretty cool though, it's been a while for my in IRC
[17:18] <brahle> thank you everyone
[17:18] <mrxyz> How do I rid of all space before the lines in a text file? I want to remove all blank space so that the text is to the left in my text file?
[17:19] <vic_____> do you want to remove all space or just the space to the left of the lines
[17:19] <jrib> mrxyz: spaces or whitespace?
[17:19] <SETKEH> erxin: Just uncheck the package synaptic
[17:19] <kf6> I am a new to the Ubuntu world, I am assuming there is no iTunes package for non-windows or non-mac machines, is this correct? any ideas for substitutes?
[17:19] <mestny> тест русского языка
[17:20] <fccf> !ru | mestny
[17:20] <Guest49419> what's a ubuntu?
[17:20] <jrib> !ubuntu | Guest49419
[17:20] <grunt> !pl
[17:20] <vic_____> !hi
[17:20] <jrib> !music | kf6
[17:20] <gst-kaps> how do i udate to firefox 3.5 ?
[17:20] <erxin> I cant browse my sony usb mp3player, it is mounted i choose for browse files, it is empty
[17:20] <fccf> !ff35
[17:20] <Xcell> staticRails-   maybe try this?   http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[17:20] <jrib> !players | kf6
[17:20] <vic_____> lol
[17:21] <leaf-sheep> !itunes | kf6
[17:21] <jrib> mrxyz: hello?
[17:21] <kf6> ubottu: thanks, i will give it a try
[17:21] <Guest49419> guys i have a problem...i can't seem to get internet working...for example this link....is it broken or is it just me? jiraiya.sannin.mybrute.com
[17:21] <leaf-sheep> erxin: Try Ctrl + H (to toggle on hidden folders)
[17:22] <unop> mrxyz, perhaps you should give us an example of what you want on the !pastebin ?
[17:22] <mrxyz> jrib: Well, i don't know, but the text isnät aligned to the left, some whit space or spaces is on the left before each line.
[17:22] <erxin> i tried CTRL + H, no change
[17:22] <mrxyz> unop: Yes, I will.
[17:22] <vic_____> the link is working fine
[17:23] <unop> mrxyz, try this.  sed 's/^[\ \t]//g' /path/to/your/file
[17:23] <erxin> when i plugin the mp3player, the screen asks me if i want to open it with rhytmbox music player
[17:23] <brahle> how do i install fonts in ubuntu?
[17:23] <erxin> i choose open with nautils, and then i get empty screen
[17:23] <sean2009> identify
[17:23] <Pici> !fonts > brahle
[17:23] <leaf-sheep> !font | brahle
[17:24] <vise> Alright.. every game is giving the same trouble.. "X11 driver not configured with opengl", in intrepid.. What to do? (Intel GM965-- dell inspiron 1525)
[17:24] <mrxyz> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219092/
[17:24] <erxin> I get this message on the top, "These files are on a Digital Music Player"
[17:24] <cdavis> pcnet32 doesn't seem to be loading at boot, I have to restart udev to get it to load.  Where do I need to put that so it loads at boot time?
[17:24] <jrib> mrxyz: sed 's/^\s*//'
[17:25] <mrxyz> unop: I replaced all the lines with only one single line and the line breaks switched to " " instead. But I don't want all the white space before the " ". I want my text aligned to the left.
[17:26] <jrib> mrxyz: erm, how did you remove the newlines then?  We should do that correctly to start off
[17:26] <vic_____> ahh
[17:26] <sean2009> hello
[17:26] <sean2009> i have just downloaded some c source code. itry to compile it with gcc main.c but it says can't find allegro.h. anyone help me.??
[17:27] <mrxyz> jrib: That didn't really help. The command you gave me did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219099/
[17:27] <staticRails_> my ubuntu is messed up... I want to install a new verstion. where is the downloaded packages are cached? I want to copy them and use them in my new installation.
[17:27] <Doc-Saintly> Does anyone have a guide for starting the xterminal login remotely? I'm logged in through SSH, but can't VNC in. I've seen various "guides" on how to do this but they all involve installing a different vnc server. This seems like a waste because ubuntu already has one if it supports it when logged in.
[17:27] <vic_____> try this : sed -e :a -e '$!N;s/\n/""/;ta' -e 'P;D' inputfile.txt > outputfile.txt
[17:27] <vic_____> I threw a space in there
[17:28] <jrib> mrxyz: yeah, it removes whitespace at the beginning of a line (which is not what you want, but will be what you want once we start over and remove the newlines correctly).  Eww.  Just do this: tr -d '\n' < file_with_new_lines > file_joined
[17:28] <mrxyz> Well, I'm looking for a method to cut out all text inside the description tags in a feed, then I want each description on it's own line so that I can parse it into a feed I'm trying to build.
[17:28] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: consider doing ssh -X
[17:29] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: can you elaborate? I'm using putty to ssh in.
[17:29] <jrib> mrxyz: ok, never mind all of what you are doing then.  Just use grep.
[17:29] <staticRails__> my ubuntu is messed up... I want to install a new verstion. where is the downloaded packages are cached? I want to copy them and use them in my new installation.  AnY IdeA???
[17:30] <mrxyz> jrib: Hehe, ok, but I want grep to plave each description on a new line so that I can read the descriptions line by line afterward in a loop.
[17:30] <kf6> !players
[17:30] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: I use UltraVNC from windows to connect to vino - the ubuntu desktop standard VNC server .... not sure what you are getting at .. or need to do
[17:30] <kf6> !codecs
[17:30] <staticRails__> my ubuntu is messed up... I want to install a new verstion. where is the downloaded packages are cached? I want to copy them and use them in my new installation.  AnY IdeA???
[17:31] <leaf-sheep> staticRails__: You can use "sudo aptitude download <xyz>"
[17:31] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: I do the same. maybe i'm not understanding what ssh -X is, or whether i can do it with putty
[17:31] <legend2440> staticRails__: /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:31] <vic_____> staticrails what you can do is zip up your home folder and put it in a separate data partition
[17:31] <staticRails__> leaf-sheep: I don't want to download again... I want to use the downloaded packages.
[17:31] <fccf> staticRails__: downloaded packages are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives ... but they will only work for the version you currently have ... another option is aptoncd
[17:32] <vic_____> then just reinstall ubuntu
[17:32] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: I use ultravnc as well, but the vnc server doesn't start up on my machine until someone physically logs in to the machine, ssh'ing doesn't cut it it seems
[17:32] <mrxyz> jrib: Like this: <description>bla bla bla</description> then on nex line <description>another bla bla</description> and so on.
[17:32] <mrxyz> next
[17:32] <erxin> i need help, i still cant browse my files on my digital mp3 player, i get an empty screen with a text on the top, these files are located on your digital mp3 player
[17:32] <jrib> mrxyz: well it depends on what the original file looks like.  If you want to explore, continue with your method.  You should be able to delete newlines and remove initial whitespace without issues now
[17:33] <mrxyz> jrib: Well, ok, I'll give it a try!
[17:33] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: ssh -X is tunneling X over ssh ... and is very difficult to do in windows .. if you have the resources you could do it in a virtual machine on windows
[17:33] <lord_hypnos> i have a problem: i cant access some sites. for example http://accessallareas.org/ … someone got advice?
[17:33] <vic_____> hey so im upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04, was wondering if anyone  here had issues with the upgrade
[17:33] <staticRails__> I booted with the live verstion. the system doesn't alow me to copy the home folder of my previous installation.... what can I do?
[17:34] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: that's what I thought. Yea i'm stuck with vnc, but i find it hard to believe there's not a way to make the already installed server run with an ssh login instead of installing a secondary server
[17:34] <vic_____> staticrails, try sudo cp
[17:34] <Pici> vic_____: Are you having an issue? Have you read the release notes?
[17:34] <vic_____> No issue as such just wanted to do a survey
[17:34] <jrib> mrxyz: I'm sure there are tools written to search xml much more easily as well
[17:34] <erUSUL> lord_hypnos: try this « echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling » then try to access the site again
[17:35] <staticRails__> I booted with the live verstion. the system doesn't alow me to copy the home folder of my previous installation.... what can I do?  ANY IDEA???
[17:35] <vic_____> something or the other always goes wrong, I'm just preparing myself mentally
[17:35] <Pici> vic_____: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes would be the best place to look.
[17:35] <Doc-Saintly> jrib: if it helps at all, i've done it to 3 diff computers no problem, and about 10 times on a VM.
[17:35] <gartral> how can i tell what program is keeping a drive from being unmounted?
[17:35] <vic_____> well the release notes didnt say that the network manager would fail to manage my ethernet card
[17:35] <jrib> gartral: lsof
[17:35] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: the already installed server was meant for support/learning purposes, cause by default it is a shared screen, wasn't really meant for admin... although I use it everyday for that
[17:35] <Pici> gartral: lsof | grep /path/to/drive
[17:35] <mrxyz> jrib: Yeah, I have found xmlstarlet, but I don't knoe how to get it do what I want.
[17:35] <vic_____> they also didn't say that the keyring manager would ask for my password everytime I logged in
[17:36] <jrib> mrxyz: oh
[17:36] <salil_> Is there no way i can try to configure my intel GM965 for openGL? OpenGL works perfectly on windows for this card...
[17:36] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: I don't mind if it's a shared screen, i would probably prefer it activate a screen on the server and move the cursor around on it etc.
[17:36] <vic_____> they also omitted to mention that session settings aren't saved when you logout but that's fixed in jaunty
[17:36] <n0gear> hmmm how do i start the nomachine(NX) server?
[17:36] <jrib> mrxyz: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-starlet.html looks like a neat tutorial
[17:36] <gartral> Pici: says xmms2d is using the drive, but I know i cleared the list
[17:36] <staticRails__> I booted with the live verstion. the system doesn't alow me to copy the home folder of my previous installation.... what can I do?  ANY IDEA???
[17:37] <rafael> Hi, I need an advice using deve. Is this the right channel to ask? I could not find anyone in #devede ...
[17:37] <hareldvd> Trying to install gnome-commander from source code, when I run /.configure I get an error "checking if glib >= 2.6.0 exists... configure: error: no" Which package am I missing?
[17:37] <Doc-Saintly> staticRails__: i'm sure there's an error message associated with it. sharing that might help
[17:37] <erUSUL> lord_hypnos: then revert the change « echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_window_scaling »
[17:37] <jrib> hareldvd: gnome-commander is in the repositories isn't it?
[17:37] <hareldvd> jrib, newer version.
[17:37] <erisol> is there a simple command for deactivating my wireless network? I have a function key on my laptop keyboard that's supposed to do that, but I don't know what to attach it to as a keyboard shortcut
[17:37] <bobo> how do i install enemy territory: quake wars?
[17:37] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: best bet would to be to leave the remote machine logged in ... just use lock screen when you leave ... when you logon via VNC the machine will come out of lock and be visible until you logout
[17:37] <BABER> what command can find files  format?
[17:37] <jrib> !compile > hareldvd
[17:38] <FrEaKmAn_> hi, any ideas why "free -mt" is saying that I have ~1100mb used while System Monitor -> Resources says ~230mb?
[17:38] <rafael> I have ripped an DVD and I want to add my own subtitles. I have 4 vob files, but only one srt. Should I add this srt in every one of them in DVD. or do I need to cut the srt in 4 pieces and add each one correspondly?
[17:38] <scott_ino_> does anyone know where i can find a Scribus-ng rc3 .deb???\
[17:38] <fccf> FrEaKmAn_: free -mt isn't accounting for cache
[17:38] <wesside_> apt-get install MYFACE
[17:39] <erUSUL> scott_ino_: maybe in getdeb.com ?
[17:39] <FrEaKmAn_> fccf, what do you mean?
[17:39] <lord_hypnos> i have a problem: i cant access some sites. for example http://accessallareas.org/ … someone got advice?
[17:39] <wesside_> /etc/hosts
[17:39] <FrEaKmAn_> fccf, what about details gained with "top"
[17:39] <unop> mrxyz, so you want each <description> tag and its contents on a separate line?
[17:39] <bobo> ubuntu says that i have almost 80gb of storage taken up on my comp, even though I KNOW i dont have 80gb taken up, what gives?
[17:39] <fccf> FrEaKmAn_: top tells you everything you would want to know
[17:40] <scott_ino_> erUSUL, ty but i think they only have stable versions...
[17:40] <L3dPlatedLinux> OK this is my issue I have gnome running and thats the way I like it so the little kde apps the better but with that said zI have to use ktorrent cause its the one I like and think it better then the others but one thing is it doesnt adhere to my color settings I need due to vision issue to have very little white on the screen so everything is black bg and green font ( no neo jokes please) so how would i get ktorrent that way with out having to inst
[17:40] <L3dPlatedLinux> all all of kde?
[17:40] <BABER> what command can understand files format?
[17:40] <erisol> bobo, what does df say?
[17:40] <FrEaKmAn_> fccf, and top says I have ~1200mb ram used
[17:40] <bobo> df?
[17:40] <jrib> BABER: like « file » or do you mean something else?
[17:40] <Kennie`> bobo: in console
[17:40] <cadman21> where can I download ndiswrapper?
[17:40] <andy_> #join ubuntu-cn
[17:40] <bobo> hold on
[17:40] <jrib> !wifi > cadman21
[17:40] <Kennie`> df -h for better ouput :p
[17:40] <fccf> FrEaKmAn_: it will also tell you that some of that is cache ... right?
[17:40] <bobo> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[17:40] <bobo> /dev/sda1            148095836 101576100  38996900  73% /
[17:40] <bobo> tmpfs                   995212         0    995212   0% /lib/init/rw
[17:40] <bobo> varrun                  995212       208    995004   1% /var/run
[17:40] <bobo> varlock                 995212         0    995212   0% /var/lock
[17:40] <FloodBot2> bobo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:40] <bobo> udev                    995212       152    995060   1% /dev
[17:41] <BABER> jrib: for exampe an avi file
[17:41] <erisol> cadman21, it should be a package you can download with synaptic
[17:41] <jrib> BABER: what about it?  Does the « file » command do what you want?
[17:41] <Kennie`> bobo: df -h on a pastebin please
[17:41] <TheBase> Is there a GUI for diff? Something like Eclipse's Subversion comparison window.
[17:41] <bobo> yeah, sry
[17:41] <jrib> TheBase: meld, kdiff, vimdiff....
[17:41] <bobo> didnt know about ahat
[17:41] <erUSUL> TheBase: there are many
[17:41] <FrozenFire> I'm just installing the 2.6.28-14 kernel update right now. For some reason, it has hung at init-ramfs
[17:41] <FrozenFire> How do I recover?
[17:42] <BABER> jrib: command which tell me what
[17:42] <erUSUL> TheBase: xxdiff; tkdiff plus jrib sugestions
[17:42] <jrib> BABER: the command is: file
[17:42] <andy_> join #ubuntu-cn
[17:42] <jrib> andy_: /join #ubuntu-cn
[17:42] <bobo> ok df -h http://paste.ubuntu.com/219106/
[17:42] <BABER> jrib:this ? file name_of_file ?
[17:42] <andy_> jrib:thank you
[17:42] <TheBase> choices, choices, too many choices :) Thanks
[17:43] <jrib> BABER: try
[17:43] <nannes> hi all
[17:43] <nannes> I've a question
[17:43] <erisol> is there a way to have a "disable wireless" keyboard shortcut?
[17:43] <bobo> Kennie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219106/
[17:43] <mrxyz> unop: Yes, I want each description tag on it's own line. That's right!
[17:43] <nannes> I use ubuntu server
[17:43] <nannes> who can help me?
[17:44] <unop> mrxyz, see this then.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/219107/
[17:44] <Kennie`> bobo: you have 97 GB in your / in use... you sure you have no big files somewhere?
[17:44] <Eber-Jimmy> Hi, I'm looking for TV / Video Broadcasting Software for live streaming. That said, I do not Icecast or something but Peercast direction Wirecast http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm who is known as good for Linux / Ubuntu
[17:44] <Graviton> !question | nannes
[17:44] <mrxyz> unop: Interesting!
[17:44] <fccf> Eber-Jimmy: you want Flumotion ... Trust Me
[17:44] <nannes> ook sorry!  :)
[17:44] <nannes> so
[17:44] <mrxyz> unop: I will try it right now!
[17:45] <nannes> after the installation (of ubuntu server)
[17:45] <nannes> i opened /etc/passwd
[17:45] <unop> mrxyz, one tag seems out of place .. maybe it was in the input text that way
[17:45] <bobo> Kennie: i mean i have like 6 movies, but they only add up to 5gb or something (avi format)
[17:46] <bobo> those are probably my biggest files
[17:46] <nannes> and saw many users that I didn't create!! (so there are by default)
[17:46] <legend2440> bobo: i would check  /var/cache/apt/archives and see if it has a bunch of deb files in there. if it does then in terminal   sudo apt-get clean  will remove them
[17:46] <nannes> excuse me for the bad english
[17:46] <Eber-Jimmy> fccf: Flumotion?
[17:46] <roracle> Okay, I have flash 10 installed, and I have heard that we shouldn't use it.  however, i take pics online with my integrated webcam and flash can't access the camera.  I have tried going to adobe's flash settings web site, and it still doesn't allow the camera on other sites.  how can i fix this problem?
[17:46] <Kennie`> bobo: you could check if there are any big files with find / -size +500000
[17:46] <leaf-sheep> bobo: Use Disk Usage Analyzer -- It can help you figure out which folder takes up the most spaces and etc.
[17:46] <nannes> for example IRC, (and I don't remember the others)
[17:46] <fccf> !info flumotion | Eber-Jimmy
[17:46] <mrxyz> unop: I got this error message: Unmatched ( in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/( <-- HERE <description/ at -e line 3.
[17:47] <bobo> legend2440: will sudo apt-get clean delete anything i dont want it to delete?
[17:47] <nannes> can I delete them without have any problem?
[17:47] <fccf> Eber-Jimmy: you will want to use the flumotion repository server though .. ubuntu's don't seem to work
[17:47] <mrxyz> unop: I tried running this command line: lynx -source http://www.expressen.se/1.573280?standAlone=true | awk '/<description>/,/<\/description\>/' | xargs perl -0lpe 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description/\n$1/g' > outputfile.txt
[17:47] <legend2440> bobo: no they are deb files you have already downloaded and installed
[17:47] <Eber-Jimmy> No i search nein suche kein Streaming-Server
[17:47] <bobo> ok
[17:47] <bobo> thanks
[17:47] <Eber-Jimmy> xD no search no streaming server
[17:47] <mrxyz> unop: And I also tried this: lynx -source http://www.expressen.se/1.573280?standAlone=true | awk '/<description>/,/<\/description\>/' | perl -0lpe 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description/\n$1/g' > outputfile.txt
[17:47] <nannes> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp me pleasee
[17:48] <mrxyz> without the xargs.
[17:48] <fccf> Eber-Jimmy: english please
[17:48] <Eber-Jimmy> I search not a streaming server software
[17:48] <bazhang> nannes, repeat your question, all on ONE line, and be patient.
[17:48] <salil_> OpenGL X11 configuration for Intel GM965. All games are giving errors since they cannot set a video mode. No solution?
[17:48] <poboy975> hi I'm running jaunty on a laptop and am having some usb issues. My usb mass storage hd is not mounting. my usb flash is fine. but reading forums talks about ehci_hcd and when I modprobe that its not found
[17:48] <MaarekStele> nannes: please specify your issue.  I missed your post
[17:49] <leaf-sheep> nannes: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/understanding-etcpasswd-file-format/
[17:49] <sunny> this is soo messed up i called my net provider for some help setting up DNS and they said they will delete my account if i run a web server
[17:49] <nannes> after the installation (of ubuntu server) I opened /etc/passwd nannes: and I saw a lot of users that I didn't create!! (so there are by default)
[17:49] <poolfool> Hylian: define system info?
[17:49] <nannes> the question is: can I delete them?
[17:49] <Eber-Jimmy> I am looking for a kind of live-production software. So when I receive signals from the cameras can select any Verteilserver to go and where I also flashes and so on can insert
[17:49] <nannes> after the installation (of ubuntu server) I opened /etc/passwd nannes: and I saw a lot of users that I didn't create!! (so there are by default)
[17:49] <nannes> the question is: can I delete them? (without having any problem!)
[17:49] <bobo> nah, it didnt do anything legends
[17:50] <fccf> Eber-Jimmy: buy a tricaster
[17:50] <MaarekStele> nannes: yes, leave those unless it's specified by /home
[17:50] <Eber-Jimmy> something like Adobe Premiere, but stop for live stream (video) and for Linux
[17:50] <Eber-Jimmy> Tricaster for linux?
[17:50] <MaarekStele> nannes: you can scroll through and find yours at /home/nannes or whatever your user is.  if you DON'T want a user, than remove through the system admin section
[17:51] <unop> mrxyz, it's missing a closing bracket.  try this.  perl -0lpe 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description)/\n$1/g'
[17:51] <nannes> what? maarekStele I'm not from england
[17:51] <nannes> explain you better
[17:51] <poboy975> here is my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/219113/
[17:51] <MaarekStele> nannes: open the users and groups program from the system > administration menu
[17:52] <MaarekStele> it'll list the actual users.  The rest are for system programs
[17:52] <Eber-Jimmy> hm
[17:52] <nannes> It's ubuntu server! No SHELL !!
[17:52] <nannes> ops
[17:52] <nannes> NO GUI !!
[17:52] <nannes> only shell
[17:52] <nannes> USERDEL ?
[17:52] <MaarekStele> nannes: gotcha... just go into /home
[17:52] <MaarekStele> nannes: ls and see if there's anyone else there
[17:53] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: that works until I remotely run an update and restart it.
[17:53] <bobo> so i used disk analyzer and i deleted a bunch of stuff, but i still only have 50g  left out of over 100gb+ disk space
[17:53] <slonbg> hi. i have ubuntu 9.04, and sshd running. i can login to the machine from the local net, but i can not from internet. the port is forwarded, the initial handshake happens - i.e. i get the "authentication of host can't be established" is displayed, and the fingerprint, so it communicates. but immediately when i type "yes" and add it to known hosts, it says connection closed. any idea what to...
[17:53] <nannes> no, there's only my user directory
[17:53] <slonbg> ...look for? i did not find any specific instructions to limit the logins to int. net only.
[17:53] <salil_> what does compiz --replace do?
[17:53] <roracle> Adobe Flash Player for Linux 10, help article online says to not use it.  Another article said to use the control panel at Adobe's site, and THAT doesn't work either.  Do the open source flash players allow for webcam and microphone access?  It worked once on faceinhole.com and it hasn't worked since then.  Any suggestions on how to access my webcam and mic via flash?
[17:54] <MaarekStele> nannes: than you're fine... the other names in the passwd file are for system logins and datapassing
[17:54] <glitsj16> salil_: that launches compiz and replaces your running window manager
[17:54] <salil_> glitsj16, What if compiz is already running?
[17:54] <Eber-Jimmy> Is Tricaster for Linux/Ubuntu?
[17:54] <glitsj16> salil_: then you wouldn't need that command
[17:55] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: why don't you have it auto-login and lock
[17:55] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: probably because i don't know how to do that either ;)
[17:55] <MaarekStele> nannes: to remove the user just type userdel and the user name
[17:55] <poboy975> hello I'm having usb issues. here is dmesg of when I plug usb external hard drive in. ehci errors, but modprobe says no ehci installed
[17:55] <poboy975> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219113/
[17:55] <salil_> glitsj16, Any idea why OpenGL video mode setting won't work on my GM965 intel card? Is there some X11 configuration i could try?
[17:55] <mrxyz> unop: I got it working, thanks!
[17:55] <MaarekStele> nannes: also, get VIM, it'll help you with editing files better than nano: sudo apt-get install vim-full
[17:56] <nannes> MaarekStele: and can anyone with phisic acces to pc have the login with one of them? and what kind of priviledges could he take?
[17:56] <bobo> it says that i have 95.5 gb used in disk analyzer, but i definitely dont!
[17:56] <bobo> i have two hard drives
[17:56] <Eber-Jimmy> mhm
[17:56] <Flannel> MaarekStele, nannes: Unless you also want gvim, you just want to install "vim"
[17:56] <MaarekStele> nannes: unless if you leave your command line open and walk away, no one can gain access
[17:56] <nannes> What are "system logins and data passing" ?? MareekStele
[17:56] <glitsj16> salil_: i believe there were known issues with intel cards on jaunty
[17:57] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: look here http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-automati-logon-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu.html
[17:57] <bobo> oh thats why, ok im not sure if i can see my second hard drive, how do i add that to my linux partition
[17:57] <nannes> no you didn't understand what I asked you
[17:57] <salil_> glitsj16, I am on intrepid.. I am afraid that indicates that even if i upgrade to jaunty, i can't do gaming.. isn't it?
[17:57] <nannes> 1 - I have logoff
[17:57] <Trolly> HEY FRESH UBUNTUS! Whats up with you???
[17:57] <MaarekStele> nannes: one of the lines in passwd contain proxy used for the proxy connection if your server is a proxy server, things like that... they're all protocol
[17:57] <Trolly> Yeah! Reggae!
[17:57] <anirban> How to create swap memory in Ubuntu ?
[17:57] <Eber-Jimmy> -.-
[17:57] <Flannel> nannes, MaarekStele: It's entirely likely that you don't want vim though.  nano is a perfectly fine editor.
[17:57] <nalys> Greetings, I've installed the flashplugin-nonfree, though I still can't access webpages using flash with firefox. I've tried with Opera, same thing. What can I try? Or what did I forget to do? Thanks.
[17:57] <salil_> anirban, It is done at install time...
[17:57] <e-x> Hi all
[17:58] <Trolly> Everything upbounched with YOU?
[17:58] <bazhang> !ot > Trolly
[17:58] <MaarekStele> Flannel: vi or vim is handy due to the preset color coding... you would have to create a config file for nano.  I use both, but finding vi/vim much better for editing
[17:58] <Icaru5> nalys: go to add/remove and search for macromedia
[17:58] <legend2440> bobo: in Disk analyzer click   edit>preferences and click box next to the partition with mountpoint   / so it checks only that one
[17:58] <anirban> salil_ : I have heard something like vm.swapiness ??
[17:58] <Trolly> Should I sing a song for you?
[17:58] <glitsj16> salil_: chances are the issues are already solved for jaunty, you might need to activate a PPA repo but it's not sure
[17:58] <nannes> 1 - I have logoff
[17:58] <nannes> 2 - I go out for a walk
[17:58] <nannes> 3 -  can anyone go to pc and have the login with one of them? and what kind of priviledges could he take?
[17:58] <Trolly> Wait a moment...
[17:59] <Flannel> MaarekStele: Except when you're brand new and then have to learn how to use vim.  There's no reason to suggest vim to a new user, they've got enough on their plate as is.
[17:59] <MaarekStele> nannes: no.. they need your login since you're the only user
[17:59] <Trolly> AN DER NORDSEEKÜSTE, JA DA GIBT ES FISCHE!
[17:59] <nannes> but in passwd file
[17:59] <nannes> they appear
[17:59] <salil_> anirban, That is to configure the swapping policy.. Not to create/modify the swap area which is actually a partition on the disk...
[17:59] <MaarekStele> Flannel: true... I used nano when first downloaded Ubuntu
[17:59] <Eber-Jimmy> Trolly looool
[17:59] <Pici> nannes: What accounts are you talking about? Please don't use the enter key so much.
[17:59] <manlinux> hi , where i can find mean : http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/correct-spelling-from-linux-command-line/
[17:59] <nalys> Icaru5: thanks for the answer, but macromedia is installed already.
[17:59] <fccf> nannes: those are system users .. you cannot login with them
[17:59] <Flannel> nannes: There are more users that are used by the system.  They don't have logins that people can use
[18:00] <switch10__> When converting an avi to DVD, devede doesn't sync up the video and audio very well. Anyone know what I can do?
[18:00] <glitsj16> salil_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-intel-graphics-drivers-for-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty.html might have more detailed info
[18:00] <nalys> Icaru5: I mean the macormedia flash plugin
[18:00] <Icaru5> nalys: remove it and get it from the add/remove
[18:00] <salil_> glitsj16, I just compiled a test program using GL and GLU libraries (mesa stuff) and the program works perfectly in windowed mode with OpenGL.. can i force games to run in windowed mode?
[18:00] <ohemgy> hi i just want to ask if it is true that portable clamwin can run in ubuntu through WINE??thank you
[18:01] <anirban> salil_ : Then how to have some paging file in Ubuntu. I am running out of dedicated RAM . I am on a VPS
[18:01] <gletob> Ok so I saw a thread in the forums a week ago that showed how to update 9.04 to kernel 2.6.30 now I can't find that thread. Anyone know where it is?
[18:01] <glitsj16> salil_: i'm afraid i don't know anything about games on linux
[18:01] <nannes> ok perfect. Now: I don't want those services... (for example irc, there is also a user called irc)... can I delete them with userdel or they haven't considered as normal users??
[18:02] <fccf> ohemgy: probably: but you would only be able to run AV on the wine C:\ directory .. it wouldn't be able to scan your ubuntu machine
[18:02] <salil_> anirban, You will have to create a separate partition on your disk depending on your RAm and format it as "linux swap" or any name by which your formatting program, say gparted refers to a swap partition. Then, IMHO linux should automatically find and use that.
[18:02] <roracle> Adobe Flash Player for Linux 10, help article online says to not use it.  Another article said to use the control panel at Adobe's site, and THAT doesn't work either.  Do the open source flash players allow for webcam and microphone access?  It worked once on faceinhole.com and it hasn't worked since then.  Any suggestions on how to access my webcam and mic via flash?
[18:02] <salil_> Whats a 'VPS'?
[18:02] <MaarekStele> nannes: irc is not a normal user and does not have a login
[18:02] <dAnon> I've got a very special question, whenever you click some browse button, for example in internet browser to choose some photo you can't preview it, is there any way of getting such preview? In windows xp you could see thumbnails or miniatures
[18:02] <nannes> oook
[18:03] <nannes> thansk
[18:03] <nannes> *ks
[18:03] <ohemgy> fccf: why is that?
[18:03] <MaarekStele> nannes: your the only user.
[18:03] <Houba1986> hey, i have a question. i'm trying to copy folder contents from a folder on my desktop to usr/lib folder, but i keep getting permission denied. how do i change that? i am using ubuntu 9.04
[18:03] <MaarekStele> Houba1986: add sudo in front of the copy command
[18:03] <salil_> dAnon, If the program supports, it is shown. For example, the "Change desktop background" in preferences shows you thumbnails.
[18:03] <Severity1> bobo, by any chance did you have virtualbox installed?
[18:03] <Pici> MaarekStele, nannes; But that doesn't mean that you can go ahead and delete all the other ones. Those may be used by system services.
[18:04] <phisher1> he's probably using nautilus
[18:04] <MaarekStele> Pici nannes: I said not to
[18:04] <Houba1986> MaarekStele: but it's a lot of files, so i was wondering if theres a way to copy them all at once?
[18:04] <Eber-Jimmy> TRICAST broadcast would be but there is also the only software without hardware???? Find it a bit too expensive (11.900$
[18:04] <_alkekshi_> hi. could someone tell me that what is the easiest way to get samba working?
[18:04] <j0ve> Pici: you just took all the fun out of watching that exchange
[18:04] <mikele> dario c 6?
[18:04] <MaarekStele> Houba1986: sudo cp *.*
[18:04] <nannes> Is my english awful?? or can you figure?
[18:05] <nannes> :)
[18:05] <nalys> Icaru5: Still can't access flash pages. Some videos work some don't, but I think that's because it's still using the open player, there's this gray play button on every video...
[18:05] <Pici> Eber-Jimmy: I don't understand what you are asking.
[18:05] <fccf> ohemgy: wine only has access to the windows resources... it really has nothing to do with the linux filesystem
[18:05] <gletob> Ok so I saw a thread in the forums a week ago that showed how to update 9.04 to kernel 2.6.30 now I can't find that thread. Anyone know where it is?
[18:05] <phisher1> Houba1986: you could gksu nautilus or cp -R dirname/* /new/dir
[18:05] <nannes> Pici: and if I dont' want those services?
[18:05] <phisher1> and sudo cp *.* is not wise as it only copy files/dirs with a dot in the name
[18:05] <Houba1986> MaarekStele: so i type in sudo  cp *first folder*.*usr/lib*
[18:05] <Icaru5> nalys: can you view youtue/
[18:06] <Pici> nannes: Then you should either disable them or uninstall them.
[18:06] <Icaru5> nalys: can you view youtube?
[18:06] <phisher1> cp -R /first/* /usr/lib
[18:06] <MaarekStele> Houba1986: look at what phisher1 said... cp -R dirname/* /new/dir
[18:06] <tel0> hi all, anybody knows when Firefox 3.5 will looks like real Firefox 3.5 in official repo? =)
[18:06] <Pici> nannes: You can use the package 'bum' to help manage your boot processes.
[18:06] <Eber-Jimmy> Pici: I am looking for a live (video) broadcast software (no hardware ala TRICAST broadcast) and for Ubuntu
[18:06] <roracle> so nobody knows anything about webcam and mic allowance in Adobe?
[18:06] <MaarekStele> tel0: mine looks like a real repo
[18:06] <Pici> tel0: Not until the next version of Ubuntu.
[18:06] <Pici> !ff35 | tel0
[18:06] <solexious|netbk> Where is java located in ubuntu?
[18:06] <kris_> Hi. Perusing my logs, and I get an alarmist, "TCP: Treason uncloaked!" message. My research has revealed that it may be just a bug, or it may be an attack. Thoughts, please? TIA.
[18:07] <IgorK> hi guys. need help. i've installed new ethernet card into my PC with Ububnru server 8.04. And I think Ubuntu doesn't see this card. How can i know is ubuntu see it or not?
[18:07] <Severity1> bobo try installing bleachbit and have it clean your system
[18:07] <nalys> yes, but not pages with flash navigation.
[18:07] <aimtrainer> hey! any chance this: http://www.logilink.org/showproduct/WL0063.htm works with ubuntu .. or linux in general?
[18:07] <erikk71> hi all
[18:07] <nalys> Icaru5: yes, but not pages with flash navigation.
[18:07] <mikele> dario
[18:07] <mikele> c 6?
[18:07] <tel0> thank you
[18:07] <ohemgy> fccf: but it is possible?i min it can detect viruses?
[18:07] <erikk71> can someone tell how to install firefox 3.5
[18:08] <bazhang> erikk71, from synaptic or the command line
[18:08] <Eber-Jimmy> .-.
[18:08] <erikk71> command line
[18:08] <Icaru5> nalys: download the latest tar of flash plugin.
[18:08] <j0ve> erikk71: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5?
[18:08] <kris_> !ff35 | erikk71
[18:08] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 erikk71
[18:09] <fccf> ohemgy: it can detect viruses in your wine install only... won't give you any help in ubuland ... although clamav is available for ubuntu
[18:09] <solexious|netbk> Where is java located in ubuntu?
[18:09] <rambo> 我应该到哪里找中文的ubuntu?
[18:09] <MaarekStele> solexious|netbk: it's not, use add/remove to install it
[18:09] <bazhang> rambo, /join #ubuntu-cn
[18:09] <linduxed> how would i do "cp /home/linduxed/"everything-but-foobar" /media/disk"?
[18:10] <rambo> 第一次来，真不知道该怎么加。
[18:10] <fccf> solexious|netbk: here /usr/bin/java here /etc/java here  /usr/share/java and here /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[18:10] <rambo> 我看到有告诉我了。
[18:10] <Eber-Jimmy> i need help!
[18:10] <bazhang> rambo, /join #ubuntu-cn
[18:10] <fccf> !cn | rambo
[18:10] <solexious|netbk> fccf, thanks
[18:11] <bazhang> Eber-Jimmy, then ask a question, all on ONE line
[18:11] <rambo> 这儿的列表就是这样，你说的是不是在列表里加？
[18:11] <rambo> 哦，不对，我上次来过。
[18:11] <fccf> solexious|netbk: that command is "whereis java"
[18:11] <rambo> 也是因为全是英文的。
[18:11] <fccf> !jp | rambo
[18:11] <rambo> 所以我把他卸了。
[18:11] <bazhang> rambo, English here
[18:11] <Eber-Jimmy> I am looking for a live (video) broadcast software (no hardware as TRICAST broadcast) and for Ubuntu
[18:11] <nannes> rambo???
[18:11] <nannes> japanese?
[18:11] <bazhang> rambo, Chinese in #ubuntu-cn
[18:12] <ealserv78> Hello
[18:12] <kris_> Hi. Perusing my logs, and I get an alarmist, "TCP: Treason uncloaked!" message. My research has revealed that it may be just a bug, or it may be an attack. Thoughts, please? TIA.
[18:12] <rambo> I'm sorry,I know.
[18:12] <fccf> !ko | rambo
[18:12] <erikk71> thank u
[18:12] <Pici> fccf: Its not korean or japanese.
[18:12] <bazhang> it's Chinese
[18:12] <ealserv78> Looking for some insite with trying to install ubuntu 8 or 9 on a xfxboard
[18:12] <rambo> But Where is #ubuntu -cn>?
[18:12] <Chousuke> !zh
[18:12] <Pici> rambo: /join #ubuntu-cn
[18:13] <bazhang> rambo, here on freenode:  type this------>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[18:13] <rambo> OK,Thanks!
[18:13] <linduxed> how would i do "cp /home/linduxed/"everything-but-foobar" /media/disk"?
[18:13] <solexious|netbk> fccf, aah, used locate and that was a world of pain
[18:13] <Eber-Jimmy> I am looking for a live (video) broadcast software (no hardware as TRICAST broadcast) and for Ubuntu
[18:14] <woodworker> working on setting up a moodle site and need help with a step on the tutorial I am not sure what to do
[18:14] <bazhang> Eber-Jimmy, do you have Ubuntu installed?
[18:14] <ealserv78> are some harddare setups just not capable of recieving a Ubuntu installation?
[18:14] <Eber-Jimmy> yes
[18:14] <root> hey guys does anyone knows how to setup on ubuntu?
[18:14] <Guest926> hey guys does anyone knows how to setup dual screen on ubuntu?
[18:14] <Eber-Jimmy> i have ubuntu
[18:14] <bazhang> Eber-Jimmy, what version of Ubuntu
[18:14] <Eber-Jimmy> 9.04
[18:14] <Eber-Jimmy> jaunty
[18:15] <bazhang> Eber-Jimmy, have you check flumotion yet?
[18:15] <ealserv78> i have been tryin to get away from microsoft and try ubuntu but my pc doesnt seem to take it. all methods end in being stuck at busybox.
[18:15] <fccf> root: it is very dangerous to be logged into irc as root for one... LOGOUT and Change your login name
[18:15] <Eber-Jimmy> I search no Streaming Server
[18:15] <Icaru5> Guest926: you can do it via the menu
[18:15] <Eber-Jimmy> i search Live-Production-Software
[18:15] <Sunny_> fccf: me?
[18:15] <woodworker> It is trying to edit a line in the postgresql8.3
[18:16] <fccf> Sunny_: yes, you are also running irc as root ... bad idea
[18:16] <mattock> hi, any ideas why my Macbook 1,1 battery is drained to 0% in a few days on Ubuntu 9.04 + standard kernel (uname -a:  "Linux macbook 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP")
[18:16] <mattock> I remember old kernel bugs that cause this, but this one is new
[18:16] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: any idea how to do this from the commandline? I don't have gui access atm
[18:17] <Eber-Jimmy> ....
[18:17] <nalys> Icaru5: Ok. I uninstalled the previously installed flash plugin with Add/Remove, downloaded the tar from the official website, installed it for firefox, still've got the same problem...
[18:17] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: give me a min
[18:17] <mattock> oops, "drained to 0% in _hibernation_"
[18:17] <bazhang> Eber-Jimmy, streaming from where
[18:17] <woodworker> any ideas how to do this 'Edit the file '/etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf' and on line 79 change the words ident sameuser to md5. '
[18:17] <Icaru5> nalys: is your browser uptodate?
[18:17] <mazda01> i am trying to connect to a jailbroken iphone with gftp. it only allows me to enter 1 password but i have a passphrased key in ~/.ssh/. so i need to enter that but then I need to also enter the root password for the iphone. any suggestions? I need a winscp alternate for ubuntun i think.
[18:18] <Sub-Zero5> When i try and change the permissons of a folder, logged in as either my normal user or root it doesnt work, when i i go back to change the permissons again it the same as before?
[18:18] <Guest54477> #ubuntutr
[18:18] <Guest54477> #ubuntu.tr
[18:18] <mazda01> Sub-Zero5, you need to be logged in as root or use sudo to change permissions of a folder that you don't own
[18:18] <nalys> Icaru5: yes. must be.
[18:18] <bazhang> Guest54477, /join #ubuntu-tr
[18:19] <woodworker> soreau:  would you mind helping me out with one more thing?
[18:19] <Sunny_> fccf: yea sorry about that mate just got on root for a few mins and lost track while working.. however how can i setup duel screen with ubuntu? im really confused cuz the ATI Catalyst Control Center JUST wont let me
[18:19] <Icaru5> nalys: is the website your viewing broke?
[18:20] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[18:20] <Icaru5> nalys: what pages dont work?
[18:20] <erisol> ok, I've tried several times but gsynaptics still complains that SHMConfig is not set to true
[18:20] <ubuntunewbie> I need help , I cannot print things
[18:20] <ubuntunewbie> there's no printer driver for my printer
[18:20] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, which printer; make and model
[18:20] <Eber-Jimmy> bazhang: I'm working on. Means I produce a live stream only for Ubuntu I lack the appropriate software something like Wirecast: http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm
[18:21] <j0nr> anyone able to shed some light on getting a netgear pcmcia wireless card working?
[18:21] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: winscp = scp ?
[18:21] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: canon inkjet pixma 2580
[18:21] <nalys> I've tried several. But why is firefox still using the open player?
[18:21] <j0nr> I have installed the drivers using ndiswrapper...but i think wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper dont like each other (or something to that effect)
[18:21] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: canon inkjet pixma ip2580
[18:21] <erisol> I'm not even sure i've been editing the proper config files. I've edited xorg.conf in /etc/X11, but nothing was in the file before I edited it. I also followed the directions on Ubuntu's synaptics touchpad page, but that didn't work either
[18:21] <j0nr> it tries to connect but then keeps returning to the authentication dialog box
[18:21] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, did you check the linux compatible printer list yet?
[18:21] <mazda01> ubuntunewbie, i am in the same boat. i have a lexmark and there's no linux drivers so I print things in linux to a pdf and then open my windows machine and print the pdf
[18:21] <nalys> Icaru5: I've tried several, but why is ff still using the open player for, say, youtube?
[18:22] <Icaru5> nalys: you can change how firefox interacts with content. have you changed any settings?
[18:22] <owner_> hello
[18:22] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, i am looking for a gui. i know about scp but it's a cli not a gui.
[18:22] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: autologin link... http://hungrycoder.xenexbd.com/tutorial/auto-login-gnome-in-fedora-ubuntu.html locking script ... http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-auto-login-and-lock-screen
[18:22] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: when I plugin the printer it automatic finds a driver but they recommend a ip2000 driver to me , so I just installed .But it can't print at all
[18:22] <nalys> Icaru5: not yet, I'm going to look what I can do there.
[18:22] <owner_> any one can help me about aircrack?
[18:22] <Icaru5> nalys: edit/preferences
[18:23] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: scp is rather easy to use IMO.
[18:23] <fccf> Sunny_: are you running catalyst as root?
[18:23] <bazhang> owner_, /join #aircrack
[18:23] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: I went and check the driver should be pixma ip2500 not the ip2000
[18:23] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, well I am trying to transfer music to my iphone from within ubuntu. i would just like a gui and not cli.
[18:24] <nalys> Icaru5: Ok, thanks.
[18:24] <Eber-Jimmy> I'm working on. Means I produce a live stream only for Ubuntu I lack the appropriate software something like Wirecast: http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm
[18:24] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, checked at the linux printing site?
[18:24] <bazhang> http://linuxprinting.org ubuntunewbie
[18:24] <deany> mazda01, nautilus - File - Connect to server
[18:24] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, what i don't get is that i have a passphrase key in ~/.ssh so everytime I want to log into a ssh server I have to enter my passphrase when I don;t even need to, the ssh server only needs a password not the passphrase,
[18:24] <Sub-Zero5> Lastly, why is their big spaces between the writing in terminal? screenshot > http://h.imagehost.org/0251/Screenshot.png
[18:24] <tharvey> is there any way to fdisk/sfdisk a removable storage device without automounter auto mounting the partitions when the operation is complete?  I'm looking for a way to do it without altering the users gnome-volume-manager configuration or /etc/fstab
[18:25] <erisol> jrib, what do I do if the Synaptics how-to you sent me didn't work?
[18:25] <Sunny_> fccf: yes for now but ill be going in my other account soon as i fix this display problem
[18:25] <amedeo> i'm using opera, and i can't find the flash player version for watching videos on youtube... hwo can help me?
[18:25] <Eber-Jimmy> .
[18:25] <Eber-Jimmy> http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm
[18:25] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: You sure you set it up right? :o
[18:25] <Sunny_> fccf: sorry for delay my computer screen messed up
[18:25] <kyja> I dont think php5 is running with my apache2. what can I do? am I missing something? and is there a gui for apache?
[18:25] <Eber-Jimmy>  I'm working on. Means I produce a live stream only for Ubuntu I lack the appropriate software something like Wirecast: http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm
[18:25] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: Also, I'm not sure if this would works for you.  Filezilla or sshfs?
[18:25] <Sub-Zero5> !idiot|Floodbot3
[18:26] <owner_> any one can help me about aircrack?
[18:26] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: Nautilus have -- Connect to Server -- feature.  You try that?
[18:26] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, i will lokk into those. I actually just got into the iphone with nautilus, connect to server. it does ask me for both passwords.
[18:26] <fccf> Eber-Jimmy: you should stop now ... nothing exists in ubuntu for what you are talking about ... wirecast is $500... you want free .. write some software
[18:26] <skellington> hi guys. i tried out moblin the other day and hated it. but it had one redeeming quality: its could connect to wpa secured networks out of the box. how come ubuntu cant do that?
[18:27] <owner_> any one can help me about aircrack?
[18:27] <erisol> skellington, what computer did you try it on?
[18:27] <j0ve> owner_: you were told to join #aircrack
[18:27] <woodworker> Edit the file '/etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf' and on line 79 change the words ident sameuser to md5.
[18:27] <leaf-sheep> owner_: #remote-exploit will serve better to your needs.
[18:27] <erUSUL> skellington: it does for me
[18:27] <woodworker> ne one care to help me with this
[18:27] <Zack> Lastly, why is their big spaces between the writing in terminal? screenshot > http://h.imagehost.org/0251/Screenshot.png
[18:27] <Eber-Jimmy> fccf: can not only cost money but in Ubuntu to use. Wirecast is available only for Windows and Mac OS
[18:27] <skellington> erisol: asus eeepc 1000ha, wireless card athero 5700
[18:27] <erUSUL> woodworker: you do not know how to edit the file ?
[18:27] <DrBenway> eepc here!!!
[18:28] <erUSUL> !eeepc
[18:28] <amedeo> i'm using opera, and i can't find the flash player version for watching videos on youtube... hwo can help me?
[18:28] <woodworker> erUSUL: no clue.... new to this....
[18:28] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP2500 , It said recommended driver to canon website
[18:28] <erisol> skellington, hmm, I don't know anything about the eepc. I'm on a dell mini 10 though, and currently using 9.04 over wireless ;)
[18:28] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: You set up passwordless ssh from what guide?
[18:28] <kyja> is there a way for me to test if php5 is working with my apache2 and if not start it?
[18:28] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, now the next issue. how can I change the default behavior after inserting a blank cd-r? currently brasero opens a data cd project and I don't want that anymore.
[18:28] <fccf> woodworker: why are you using postgres for moodle when it runs fine in mysql
[18:29] <Sunny_> kyja: http://localhost
[18:29] <erUSUL> woodworker: you prefer a graphical editor ? « gksudo gedit /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf » and do whatever edits you need
[18:29] <erisol> kyja, it should be listed under mods enabled
[18:29] <erUSUL> !lamp | kyja
[18:29] <Spad-XIII> kyja: to test it write a little php file in /var/www ? to enable it, i'm also figuring out to do that
[18:29] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, i didn't setup passwordless ssh. I setup ssh with a private key so I need to enter a passphrase
[18:29] <kyja> oooh lamp is the cure
[18:29] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: Ahh. Make a new private key.  This time, leave passphrase blank.
[18:29] <skellington> k thanks guys
[18:29] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: went to the webiste and download but how to install ?
[18:29] <woodworker> fccf:  just following the tutorial I have .... omg...... no I realize what it meant...... I already have mysql set up...... know how to get postsql off? or will it affect anything
[18:30] <grunt> Is there an alternative to proftpd? since it is broken in karmic...
[18:30] <erUSUL> !ftpd
[18:30] <erisol> kyja, if you don't have php5 already, it should be in a package that you can get via synaptic or apt-get
[18:30] <grunt> yay
[18:30] <Eber-Jimmy> hm
[18:30] <fccf> woodworker: you can leave postgres there if you want .. or remove it with synaptic
[18:30] <woodworker> fccf:  synaptic?
[18:31] <erUSUL> !software | woodworker
[18:31] <fccf> woodworker: synaptic package manager
[18:31] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, no way! i don't want someone hacking my ssh server and getting access to my server!
[18:31] <erisol> woodworker, it's the package manager that ubuntu uses
[18:31] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: I choose linux http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010456.asp and downloaded a tgz file and inside there are 2 files
[18:31] <Spad-XIII> skellington: i got my wpa-wireless working by installing linux-backports-modules-jaunty .. was trying to get it working for a week, installing that package made it work first time after a reboot
[18:31] <erisol> woodworker, you can find it under System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[18:31] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:31] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: Lol.  It only works if that someone have the said key.
[18:32] <skellington> hmm that seems more logical. my wireless works for wep, just not wpa.
[18:33] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: You generate a new key, you send a copy of the key to your phone.  Then that phone can access in your server without password / passphrase.
[18:33] <skellington> spad: can you tell me where exactly you found it?
[18:33] <Spad-XIII> skellington: i had a wpa connection on a different location (different router) just never with my own .. wireless worked just fine, but not wpa .. installing the package did the trick (wpa2 still doesn't work though)
[18:33] <j0nr> anyone able to assist with the netgear
[18:33] <Zack> Lastly, why is their big spaces between the writing in terminal? screenshot > http://h.imagehost.org/0251/Screenshot.png
[18:33] <erisol> mazda01, when you're using ssh and you have a key, it always asks you for the passphrase of the key instead of the password
[18:33] <erisol> mazda01, if you want to avoid typing your passphrase all the time, check out ssh-agent
[18:34] <Ealserv78> Ummm Hello!?
[18:34] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, oh yeah, that's true.
[18:34] <Zack> erisol: lolers weird, im having trouble getting a public key to work, how does ssh agent work?
[18:34] <Eber-Jimmy> fccf:?
[18:34] <mazda01> erisol, i will look into ssh-agent. thanks
[18:34] <skellington> spad: why doesnt wpa2 work?
[18:34] <erisol> Zack, what's your problem?
[18:34] <Spad-XIII> skellington: after a few days of googling and reading old forum posts (2004 to 2007) nothing worked, but this site listed the tip: http://wireless.kernel.org/
[18:34] <fccf> Eber-Jimmy: I know of no solution that does what you want in linux... if you would like to write one .. thats on you
[18:35] <Spad-XIII> skellington: no clue why wpa2 doesn't work .. when i set my router to both wpa2/wpa, it won't connect .. when i set it to wpa only, it works first try
[18:35] <j0nr> Spad-XIII: i am having problems with wpa_supplicant, netgear pcmcia wireless card... is this related?
[18:35] <Zack> erisol: trying to login to ssh without putting in a password, ive followed 3 tutriols but it still doesnt work
[18:35] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, now the next issue. how can I change the default behavior after inserting a blank cd-r? currently brasero opens a data cd project and I don't want that anymore.
[18:35] <JamesHoldsworth> Hello everyone, quick Ubuntu Server question. I installed UbuntuServer9.04, ran getapt and all that and got Xubuntu's Gui running on it, this is all on an 80GB IDE HD, but later I plugged my 250 gig SATA to it. For some reason it's not detecting it at all. Normally, as on my normal ubuntu machine, other partitions (it's all a 320gbdrive on my laptop) are listed as mountable drives. Why isn't my server desktop pickuing up the sata
[18:35] <erisol> Zack, does ssh with the passphrase work?
[18:35] <amedeo> i'm using opera, and i can't find the flash player version for watching videos on youtube... hwo can help me?
[18:35] <UnderSampled> Can I auto hide two panels with the same trigger, to make them act as though they were the same?
[18:35] <skellington> darn. i think mine might be both..
[18:35] <ubuntunewbie> bazhang: how to install ?
[18:35] <Zack> dont know what you mean erisol
[18:35] <skellington> maybe thats my problem
[18:35] <Eber-Jimmy> fccf: gmpf
[18:35] <skellington> but ill try this out.
[18:35] <Eber-Jimmy> hmpf
[18:36] <Ealserv78> I'm trying to install Ubuntu (8 or 9) on my setup "athlon quad core, xfxgeforce 8200 MB, and a Geforce 9800GT PCIx. I keep gettin stuck at busy box interface. Any ideas :(
[18:36] <erisol> I mean, does ssh work at all ;)
[18:36] <skellington> the site wont open for me
[18:36] <JamesHoldsworth> Ealserv, try doing a disk check before you install.
[18:36] <ubuntunewbie> what is the different between Fedora Core 6 and openSUSE 10.2 ???
[18:36] <woodworker> fccf: Thanks
[18:36] <Spad-XIII> skellington: check the backports package and see if it works .. can always uninstall it or reconfigure/tweak your router (perhaps)
[18:36] <Ealserv78> yes and it leaves me at busy box. and tried a reburn.
[18:36] <owen1> how to tell an app to start on specipic monitor? -display is not available for every app.
[18:36] <woodworker> ersoi: thanks
[18:36] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: different distros no covered/supported here
[18:36] <fccf> JamesHoldsworth: try adding all-ide-generic to your grub boot line ... guessing your sata controller is running in IDE mode
[18:36] <JamesHoldsworth> it's in the beginning menu, where you can say "Install ubuntu, try ubuntu without any change," etc
[18:36] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: You use Gnome (Nautilus)?
[18:36] <woodworker> erUSUL: thanks
[18:36] <DrBenway> Zack: are you logging in from across the internet or your workstation/
[18:37] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: ask in their respective channels forums
[18:37] <camt> owen1: Check out devilspie
[18:37] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: ??
[18:37] <erUSUL> woodworker: no problem
[18:37] <Zack> drbenway workstation
[18:37] <JamesHoldsworth> How do I do that?
[18:37] <Spad-XIII> skellington: i did a fresh net-install of ubuntu and first thing i did after completion was install the package, wireless worked right away
[18:37] <owen1> camt: even if i don't use gnome/kde/xfce? i use awesome
[18:37] <JamesHoldsworth> fccf, sorry how do i do that?
[18:37] <DrBenway> what command are you using?
[18:37] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I downloaded a printer driver but at the manual only show this OS for installation
[18:37] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I dont know how to install at ubuntu
[18:37] <Ealserv78> i can try that with no changes. if it helps when tryin to install  ver. 9 busy box said that ubuntu had complications communcating with my board and to complain to my vendor.
[18:37] <skellington> okeedokee thanks
[18:37] <erisol> Zack, if your public key works then the next step is to start ssh-agent. The command is "eval `ssh-agent`" on the command line
[18:38] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: you usually use the ppd file
[18:38] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: Open any Nautilus folder.  Check out Preferences under "Media" tab.
[18:38] <erisol> Zack, note that those are backquotes, found on the same key as the tilde
[18:38] <Spad-XIII> j0nr: i haven't messed with wpa_supplicant .. or rather, i couldn't get anything with it working .. and my wireless isn't a pcmcia card .. other than that, i've been running ubuntu for almost a week now :)
[18:38] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: ppd file ? what is that ?
[18:38] <erisol> Zack, after ssh-agent has started, run ssh-add
[18:38] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: the driver Idownloaded got .rpm
[18:38] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I dont know how to install
[18:38] <fccf> JamesHoldsworth: lets start here ... www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[18:39] <owen1> camt: DISPLAY=:0.1 conky  works for me
[18:39] <camt> owen1: I only have experience with it in Gnome, so it may not work for you
[18:39] <erisol> Zack, it will ask you which keys you want added, and then their passphrases. After you've done that, it should be able to connect to a remote server without requiring the passphrase again
[18:39] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, nope. i already checked that. it's still set to "ask what to do". there is some config somewhere telling brasero to open a data cd project after I enter a blank cd-r. just not sure where that config is.
[18:39] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: are you sure your printer is not listed in the supported printers? in System>Adminstration>Printers
[18:39] <Spad-XIII> j0nr: there might be something interesting on http://wireless.kernel.org/ .. you'll have to check for yourself though, i'm still new to ubuntu and linux in general
[18:40] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: It recommend me to install ip2000 driver but my printer is model ip2580  using ip2500 driver
[18:40] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: the driver wans't there
[18:40] <quizme> when a user writes a file, the permissions are defaulted to 755.  Is there a way to change the default to 775?
[18:41] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: Now I am printer configuration , make a model change.I can't find ip2500 printer model
[18:41] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: I'm trying to find it for you.
[18:41] <c0nn3x> Hi. I need some help!  I have no sound on my laptop Toshiba satelite p100 186. "Can you help ore dir to help?" Sry but a damn noobi in ubuntu 9.04/ linux. Many thanks ;)
[18:41] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: well i can see them here in my install
[18:41] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: pixma ip2000 under canon
[18:42] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: i'm in jaunty
[18:43] <snewp> c0nn3x: just try to maximize all the volume controls and make sure there's no muted on those controls
[18:43] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I am on hardy , I saw pixma ip2000 too but my driver should be ip2500
[18:43] <woodworker> can anyone tell me what is wrong with this line: 'sudo apt-get install ntp-simple openssh-server unattended-upgrades'  says it cant find pacage ntp-simple
[18:43] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: It doesn't print , i tried it yesterday
[18:43] <mrxyz> Oh, I can't get this right.
[18:43] <c0nn3x> snewp K cheers
[18:44] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: downloaded the file which is 2007 but dont know how to install http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010456.asp
[18:44] <j0ve> woodworker: well, there is no ntp-simple in my synaptic, and I have quite a few third party ppa's enabled
[18:44] <snewp> woodworker: try sudo apt-get search ntp-simple, if there's no result then remove that one
[18:44] <fccf> woodworker: there is no ntp-simple .. install ntp and ntpdate
[18:44] <erisol> quizme, look into umask
[18:45] <mrxyz> Is there any way to move each description-tag in a text file to a new file so that every desvription-tag will go to it's own file? I mean, how do I only get say number 5 of a tag? Not all similar tags, only one of the tags.
[18:45] <erisol> quizme, you should be able to put a line like "umask=002" in /etc/profile to make the default last across sessions
[18:45] <woodworker> fccf:  'sudo apt-get install ntp'  and 'sudo apt-get install ntpudate
[18:46] <erisol> quizme, otherwise you can just type umask in on your terminal each time
[18:46] <snewp> woodworker: sudo apt-get ntp ntpupdate
[18:46] <fccf> woodworker: or just sudo apt-get install ntp ntpdate
[18:46] <snewp> woodworker: sudo apt-get ntp ntpdate
[18:46] <c0nn3x> snewp, No inprovment.
[18:46] <fccf> snewp: install?
[18:46] <erisol> fccf, do you have any experience with Synaptics touch pads?
[18:47] <snewp> heh, sorry typo .. yep install
[18:47] <fccf> erisol: only that they usually work
[18:47] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:47] <erisol> fccf, it works, but I'm trying to install gsynaptics and it complains that SHMConfig has not been enabled
[18:47] <leaf-sheep> mazda01: Find it yet?
[18:47] <woodworker> fccf: it says couldnt find pacage utpudate
[18:48] <SolarWar> i'm trying to write a udev rule, I can change the group of the device, however i cannot change the mode of the device: http://pastebin.com/m3a2e3cf1
[18:48] <erisol> fccf, except that I've followed several methods of enabling it, and none have worked so far
[18:48] <snewp> c0nn3x: try to check System > Preference >Sound
[18:48] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592685
[18:48] <mrxyz> unop: Isn't a ) missing in the code you gave me?
[18:48] <snewp> woodworker: i do believe it's ntpdate not utpudate
[18:48] <Spad-XIII> erisol: checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad ?
[18:48] <mrxyz> unop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219107/
[18:48] <fccf> woodworker: utpudate??? huh
[18:49] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, thanks. i have looked in gconf and I just can't find it. i have even looked at gnome default actions.
[18:49] <fccf> erisol: I'd have a look around the forums
[18:49] <unop> mrxyz, yes indeed, i did post a correction soon after
[18:49] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I found that link too at ubuntu forum , maybe that time there's no driver for ip2500.
[18:49] <mrxyz> unop: Alright, I will look for it.
[18:49] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: but now I saw at canon website but dont know how to install
[18:49] <UnderSampled> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[18:49] <woodworker> fccf:  sorry couldnt find package ntpudate
[18:49] <unop> mrxyz, <unop> mrxyz, it's missing a closing bracket.  try this.  perl -0lpe 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description)/\n$1/g'
[18:50] <erisol> Spad-XIII, yes, I tried that, but SHMConfig still claims to be disabled
[18:50] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: the threath gives ( alittle bit involved i have to admit) intructions to install the drivers... you need to add a repo and convert some rpm's to deb...
[18:50] <mrxyz> unop: Thanks.
[18:50] <fccf> woodworker: looks like a typo ... ntpdate is the package
[18:50] <grunt> ftpd features no daemon?!
[18:50] <woodworker> fccf: yea.......
[18:50] <Spad-XIII> erisol: hmm, that's odd .. i haven't tried this yet (it's on my todo-list :)) .. did you try restarting gnome or reboot ?
[18:50] <woodworker> snewp:  thanks
[18:50] <Spad-XIII> erisol: i guessing logging out and back in would work as well
[18:51] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I super newbie , i dont even understand what they said.... :-(
[18:51] <erisol> Spad-XIII, yes, I've rebooted several times since I made the change mentioned on the Enable SHMConfig page
[18:51] <erisol> Spad-XIII, I also followed other directions for modifying xorg.conf; could they be conflicting?
[18:51] <cadman21> erisol:do you know what the package might be called?
[18:52] <erisol> cadman21, which package?
[18:52] <Spad-XIII> erisol: very odd .. i have no clue .. i'm still new to ubuntu .. this site is still on my todo-list
[18:52] <cadman21> erisol:the one for BELKIN wireless G card drivers?
[18:53] <ubuntuisloved> can someone tell me if the 9.04 has the real cisco built in the kernel or does it use vpnc to connect
[18:53] <woodworker> ne ideas why it cant find aspell-fr and aspell-en in this line?     'sudo apt-get install unzip zip aspell-en aspell-fr aspell-de aspell-es'
[18:53] <mrxyz> unop: Your pearl code does something to the text. Some characters changes and when I try to open the file I saved then I only see strange characters.
[18:53] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: ?
[18:53] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, just wondering if it's a real cisco built in or not
[18:53] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: it doenst come with any vpn client
[18:53] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: well what can i said... is not easy but you are stuck with your printer...
[18:54] <mrxyz> unop: I use your code and then send it to a new file with "your pearl code" outputfile.txt > newfile.txt
[18:54] <unop> mrxyz, hmm, it shouldn't .. can you paste some of newfile.txt on a pastebin?
[18:54] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: but you can install vpnc from the repos or compile the cisco one from source
[18:54] <c0nn3x> snewp, Okay check for ? in System > Preference >Sound :)
[18:54] <mrxyz> unop: Yes, I'll.
[18:54] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, I know but you can install on 9.04 the vpnc-network manager module or such
[18:54] <snewp> woodworker: try apt-get search aspell
[18:54] <notdarkyet> anyone know where i could find information on writing software for the new notification manager?
[18:54] <fccf> woodworker: no idea .. pretty standard packages
[18:54] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: :'-(
[18:54] <notdarkyet> or documentation for it?
[18:54] <quizme> erisol: thank you
[18:54] <bazhang> snewp, that is apt-cache search
[18:54] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: i just use vpnc, it works flawless for me
[18:55] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, I keep getting disconnected on idle
[18:55] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, I also use vpnc right now
[18:55] <notdarkyet> anyone?
[18:55] <snewp> bazhang: sorry i'm referring to aptitude .. lol .. i'm not using apt-get .. thanks for the headsup
[18:55] <iplaythisgame> I need to be able to connect to specific computers in my home network from outside through the net.  What other options are there than port forwarding or vpn
[18:55] <fccf> !patience | notdarkyet
[18:55] <mrxyz> unop: The newfile.txt look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219164/
[18:55] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I still dont understand what does it said on the manual for the driver I had downloaded http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010456.asp
[18:55] <Pici> notdarkyet: You'll want to look at the libnotify packages.
[18:55] <cadman21> Can anyone help me with drivers for a Belkin wireless G desktop card?
[18:55] <snewp> c0nn3x: try to test your sound from there
[18:55] <fccf> !ndis | cadman21
[18:56] <notdarkyet> Pici: ok, hmm where might i find that?
[18:56] <Pici> notdarkyet: In our package repositories.
[18:56] <ongun> hi
[18:56] <mrxyz> unop: But when I don't save to a file and instead see it in Terminal, then the text looks almost fine, except for some characters.
[18:56] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: we have some old pix, i had problems with vpnc at first, it somehow killed the tunnel all the time, i think that was a result of some buggy dead peer detection code in vpnc, once i disabled that feature it worked well for me
[18:56] <notdarkyet> Pici: ok thanks, checking it out now
[18:57] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, damn yes my network admin at work uses pix he loves them
[18:57] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, how do i disable that dead peer connection
[18:57] <DarkMage26> I wanted to know how to update grub with the new kernel headers. I'm stuck on 2.6.28-11 and want the new ones to show in grub automatically. Any one able to help???
[18:57] <quizme> sudo chmod -R g+ws .   <--- what does the "s" do ?
[18:58] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: can you help me reading the file ?
[18:58] <mike_s> hi...i want to connect my acer aspire 1694wlmi (ubuntu 9.04) via s-video to my tv to watch videos and dvds...i have an ati mobility x700 graphiccard installed! i found a lot of infos...but all seemed very complex...is there a simple way?? ;-)
[18:58] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: what file ?
[18:58] <fccf> mike_s: see atitvout
[18:58] <erisol> cadman21, what computer is this for?
[18:58] <fccf> !atitvout | mike_s
[18:59] <mike_s> alright...lets try! :-)
[18:59] <mrxyz> unop: This will give me correct code: perl -0lpe 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description)/\n$1/g' outputfile.txt
[18:59] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: you can start vpnc with --dpd-idle 0 to disable dead peer detection
[18:59] <mrxyz> unop: But this doesn't: perl -0lpe 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description)/\n$1/g' outputfile.txt > newfile.txt
[18:59] <unop> mrxyz, wow, it;'s like the language has changed completely? it looks chinese now
[18:59] <iplaythisgame> I need to be able to connect to different computers via ssh/ftp in my home network from outside through the net.  What other options are there than port forwarding or vpn
[18:59] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: there is also a config variable for that you can set in your config file
[18:59] <fccf> !info atitvout | mike_s
[18:59] <mrxyz> unop: The laste line gives me the result in the pastebin.
[18:59] <PuppyCock> .net
[18:59] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, thanks man I'm gonna try it
[18:59] <woodworker> snewp:  it says that is invalid operation search
[19:00] <mrxyz> unop: Yeah, I don't understand what have happened.
[19:00] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: .rpm
[19:00] <snewp> woodworker: i'm sorry it's sudo apt-cache search aspell .. as what fccp said that it's a standard package. it should be there
[19:00] <erUSUL> !rpm | ubuntunewbie
[19:00] <unop> mrxyz, ok, gimme a few seconds - i think i might know
[19:00]  * joejc gives unop
[19:00] <JBauer> Hi. My hidden TrueCrypt volume is damaged and I don't know how to recover some data. Please, urgent help!
[19:00] <boss667> you know any spanish channel?
[19:01] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, since your so well educated let me ask do you also ever get issues with /etc/resolv.conf not returning back to default before vpn
[19:01] <fccf> !es | boss667
[19:01] <woodworker> snewp:  can i just install the whole aspell package rather than just certain parts of it as the tutorial says
[19:01] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: as you can see you can conver it to deb and install it. they do that in the threath among other things
[19:01] <boss667> thanks
[19:01] <n0gear> JBauer: try runnnig spinrite6.0 on it? might help
[19:01] <unop> joejc, ?
[19:01] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, it doesnt happen all the time just some times
[19:01] <daftykins> anyone happen to know what/why Irssi was updated on ubuntu server 8.04 LTS within the last couple of days?
[19:01] <joejc> ?
[19:01] <JBauer> n0gear
[19:01] <grunt> ubuntu is so slow, compared to gentoo or archlinux
[19:01] <JBauer> I am kind n00b
[19:01] <snewp> woodworker: that's still ok
[19:02] <grunt> feels like kernel ticks 10 per second, 10hz
[19:02] <cornerstone> good afternoon, all
[19:02] <ubuntuisloved> grunt, no gnome is slower
[19:02] <grunt> audio lags
[19:02] <mrxyz> unop: I'm trying to write a script that will filter rss feeds. I'm don't want to use Yahoo Pipes.
[19:02] <n0gear> JBauer: how is it damaged?
[19:02] <woodworker> snewp:  there is no -fr or -es.... is this going to affect the running of my moodle site?
[19:02] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: i have it very often, that after i vpnc-disconnect it doenst revert back to the old resolv.conf
[19:02] <unop> mrxyz, are you piping to perl from awk still?
[19:02] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: ummm , I know nothing about converting , I am stuck , what is alien ?
[19:02] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, yes have you found a fix for that
[19:02] <mgolisch> ubuntuisloved: but i was yet too lazy to look for a solution
[19:02]  * Until_It_Sleeps is back from: Class (been away for 4h 42m)
[19:02] <ubuntuisloved> mgolisch, hhaha
[19:02] <fccf> daffykins: look here http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/i/irssi/irssi_0.8.12-3ubuntu3.1/changelog
[19:03] <snewp> woodworker: if your site will support fr and es .. i think yes
[19:03] <JBauer> n0gear, i think i wrote som data on outer volume
[19:03] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: alien is program that can convert and rpm file to a deb file one you can install in ubuntu
[19:03] <JBauer> n0gear And now it won't mount on linux
[19:03] <mrxyz> unop: Therefore I'm planning to send title, links, descriptions to a file each, then grep all lines containing my keyword and the responding lines in the other text files, then send all to a new file that contains my own filtered feed.
[19:03] <n0gear> so u overwrote the hidden volume a bit?
[19:03] <woodworker> snewp:  I dont understand
[19:03] <unop> mrxyz, have a try at this.  perl -0lpe -e 'binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8");' -e 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description)/\n$1/g'
[19:04] <c0nn3x> snewp, How Long is the test normal? bin testing for 5min ;)
[19:04] <JBauer> n0gear: it says  mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:04] <mrxyz> unop: Allright, I'll.
[19:04] <DarkMage26> I wanted to know how to update grub with the new kernel headers. I'm stuck on 2.6.28-11 and want the new ones to show in grub automatically. Update-grub doesn't find the new kernels and I know I have kernel 2.6.28-14. Can anyone help me???
[19:04] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: oh ,
[19:04] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: I can't find the file at the guide
[19:04] <erUSUL> what file ?
[19:04] <n0gear> JBauer: is it on linux or on windows partition?
[19:04] <snewp> woodworker: -fr and -es .. french and spanish respectively ... i'm not sure what your website is
[19:04] <Bilge> How can I check what packages another package depends on?
[19:04] <woodworker> snewp:  are these spell checkers for different languages.......... oh...... that wont matter I am in us
[19:05] <JBauer> n0gear it's on NTFS. but i'm using linux now
[19:05] <snewp> woodworker: if you are in US .. then it doesnt matter :)
[19:05] <mrxyz> unop: I got these error messages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219171/
[19:05] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: With synaptic, I installed
[19:05] <ubuntunewbie> bjfilter-2.5
[19:05] <Doc-Saintly> fccf: i found it out
[19:05] <Doc-Saintly> [daemon]
[19:05] <Doc-Saintly> AutomaticLoginEnable=true
[19:05] <Doc-Saintly> AutomaticLogin=username
[19:05] <Doc-Saintly> [security]
[19:05] <FloodBot3> Doc-Saintly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <Doc-Saintly> AllowRemoteAutoLogin=true
[19:05] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592685
[19:05] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: I thought I gave you the link
[19:06] <unop> mrxyz, oops, sorry.  perl -0lpe 'BEGIN{ binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8"); }' -e 's/>\n(\n*\s*)/>/g;' -e 's/\s+/ /g;' -e 's/(<description)/\n$1/g'
[19:06] <n0gear> ok. mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/*** /home*
[19:06] <snewp> c0nn3x: can't you hear a sound? it's something like a humming sound?
[19:06] <LLStarks> s
[19:06]  * LLStarks is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[19:07] <c0nn3x> snewp, no sound what so ever.
[19:08] <snewp> c0nn3x: did you click on the volume control? if so, try checking all the device on the drop down menu and make sure all are set to its maximum level and none is muted
[19:09] <kf6> can i move a firefox profile from ms vista box to ubuntu box?
[19:09] <fccf> Doc-Saintly: I did I did @ 10:22 am PST autologin link... http://hungrycoder.xenexbd.com/tutorial/auto-login-gnome-in-fedora-ubuntu.html locking script ... http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-auto-login-and-lock-screen
[19:09] <erisol> c0nn3x, what computer/sound card are you using?
[19:09] <n0gear> JBauer: any luck?
[19:10] <JBauer> n0gear, not really
[19:10] <c0nn3x> erisol, snd-hda-intel i think
[19:10] <JBauer> tell me please, step by step...
[19:10] <unop> kf6, i guess you can, yes
[19:11] <erisol> c0nn3x, I had some problems with that on my netbook too
[19:11] <mrxyz> unop: No, still "chinese".
[19:11] <crom09> hello, i have a problem with my mic
[19:11] <djzn> which is the BEST video graphic vendor towards linux distributions... nVidia? AMD-ATI? or Intel ?
[19:11] <erisol> c0nn3x, have you tried alsamixer on the command line?
[19:11] <crom09> it seems to work (i can hear myself) but i can not record
[19:11] <crom09> any help?
[19:11] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/354524
[19:11] <unop> mrxyz, what's the full and exact command you are using, i could try it here.
[19:11] <c0nn3x> snewp, non works error audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[19:11] <kf6> unop: the file structure of the folder from vista will work on a linux system??
[19:11] <sebsebseb> djzn: Intel graphics usually bad,   ATI  have good Linux support I think,   Nividia  have pretty good Linux support, only thing is though that their drivers are propritary and closed source
[19:12] <c0nn3x> erisol, alsamixer ?
[19:12] <araizen> hi everyone
[19:12] <araizen> evolution keeps bugging me about the password for the default keyring
[19:12] <sebsebseb> !intel >  djzn
[19:12] <araizen> but i never set up a password for that that I know of and my regular password for my user doesn't work
[19:12] <erisol> c0nn3x run that in the terminal
[19:12] <snewp> c0nn3x: yeah try alsamixer as what erisol said
[19:12] <araizen> how can I set that up or get rid of that prompt?
[19:12] <n0gear> JBauer: do u know which partition u need to mount to get it working?
[19:13] <unop> kf6, if i recall correctly, the structures are almost identical - except with one or two files that are not important
[19:13] <c0nn3x> erisol, okay
[19:13] <djzn> what about ATI graphics, are they open source or closed just like nvidia?
[19:13] <mazda01> leaf-sheep, i got it. i just hold shift when I insert a blank disc and then I can uncheck the box that says to perform this action everytime. goggle saved the day.
[19:13] <crom09> I'm not able to record with my mic, can anybody help?
[19:13] <c0nn3x> erisol, temial op
[19:13] <kf6> unop:  cool, thanks for info, i will give it a shot
[19:13] <FrozeL> Selam
[19:13] <sebsebseb> !ati >  djzn
[19:13] <FrozeL> s.a
[19:13] <erxin> i cant mount my mtp mp3 player, i found a solution to get it work, i need to kill the process "hald" and then mount my mp3 player, this works, but i want to automate this command, how can i make a bin file, with automatic sudo without logging in
[19:13] <FrozeL> Turkiye ?
[19:13] <Pici> !tr | FrozeL
[19:13] <unop> mrxyz, also, what do you use to view the contents of this file? an editor?
[19:13] <sebsebseb> djzn: oh yeah and with  Nividia the drivers have to be installed from the Ubuntu repo, or bad things can happen
[19:14] <callum_> HI EVERYONE!
[19:14] <JBauer> n0gear, so i've mounted my hidden volume now, checking at Filesystem -> Do not mount. It shows the capacity of volume, algorithms used but can't access it
[19:14] <callum_> DEBIAN?
[19:14] <callum_> EDBIAN?
[19:14] <Pici> callum_: #debian
[19:14] <rhin0> @ callum, this is ubuntu, join #debian
[19:14] <djzn> sebsebseb: i am looking for a mobo, am thinking of these AMD-ATI chipsets, are they any good ?
[19:14] <erUSUL> ubuntunewbie: you filed the bugreport ?
[19:15] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: no ,
[19:15] <callum_> actually no.
[19:15] <callum_> I was looking for someone named EDBIAN
[19:15] <sebsebseb> djzn: ATI  catalyzst drivers or something, people had issues with, when it came to Ubuntu
[19:15] <callum_> :) Thanks X I am in Ubuntu I have 9.04
[19:15] <c0nn3x> erisol, ALSA lib dlmisc.c:108:(snd_dlsym_verify) unable to verify version for symbol _snd_ctl_pulse_open
[19:15] <c0nn3x> ALSA lib control.c:714:(snd_ctl_open_conf) symbol _snd_ctl_pulse_open is not defined inside (null)
[19:15] <c0nn3x> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device or address
[19:15] <sebsebseb> djzn: Nividia are one of the best  when it comes to  graphics card support and Linux, even though their  drivers are closed
[19:15] <callum_> Anyways I was just wanting to know is there a iPhone 3G Application Manager for Ubuntu?
[19:15] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: went and google ,just direct to you that the person is also using the way from ubuntu thread but doesn't work
[19:15] <c0nn3x> Is what im geting
[19:16] <djzn> sebsebseb: i currently have a nvidia chipset, it works quite well.. but i was wondering if i am missing something about ati / amd
[19:16] <erUSUL>  ubuntunewbie it worked for the people in the threath
[19:16] <sebsebseb> djzn: I have used  Nivida  with Linux since  before Ubuntu,  so  2004,  and not had issues
[19:16] <mrxyz> unop: Yes, I used gedit to view the file.
[19:16] <callum_> Is there a IPHONE APPLICATION FOR UBUNTU PLEASE?
[19:17] <unop> mrxyz, hmm, have you tried another editor? nano or cat perhaps?
[19:17] <c0nn3x> erisol, do i need to install something ?
[19:17] <ubuntunewbie> erUSUL: not sure , but I worry it will mess up printing problem
[19:17] <djzn> so the ATI has a 'open' branch then?
[19:17] <sebsebseb> djzn: Fedora  Core 2 and 4 on old computer with Nividia  no problems,  Ubuntu for a bit on that one,    and then this later computer with of  course a later Nivida card and no problems.
[19:17] <mrxyz> unop: I have found a cli feed reader that I'm goint to read about. It may solve my problem without all problem. I'll stop searching for a solution on this problem until I have checked outher options.
[19:18] <fccf> !caps | callum_
[19:18] <QxGY> Hi guys, I am able to wget the package files from my repository but apt-get doesn't seem to work ( its stuck at 0% ) Is this any configuration issue ?
[19:18] <callum_> !capps fccf
[19:18] <mrxyz> unop: I'll try another editor, then I will go on searching for another solution.
[19:18] <unop> mrxyz, ok, but i suspect gedit is the culprit here
[19:18] <djzn> sebsebseb: ATI has a branch for open drivers, right, and then a commercial closed source drivers branch?
[19:18] <rhin0> @ QxGY: try using sudo aptitude
[19:18] <n0gear> JBauer: sorry couldnt reproduce your problem :( Just ask again, hopefully someone else can help
[19:18] <frostburn> callum_, an iphone application to do what, exactly? that's like saying is there an iphone app for windows
[19:18] <DorukhaN> Türkiye
[19:18] <mrxyz> unop: You're right. The file seem to be correct using nano editor instead of gedit.
[19:19] <DorukhaN> Türkiye
[19:19] <QxGY> rhin0: sudo aptitude too, is stuck at 0%
[19:19] <callum_> Frostburn: to sync music and photos maybe
[19:19] <FrozeL> u yazma olm :@
[19:19] <Pici> !tr | DorukhaN
[19:19] <fccf> callum_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[19:19] <sebsebseb> djzn: closed source is bad,  generally  really  most closed source programs are bad, because of the vender lock in and all that,  visit gnu.org and then go to philosphey section for more info if interested.   However  for  Nivida graphics card i'll make an exception   from using the  closed source  drivers and  knowing they tend to work well on Linux.
[19:19] <unop> mrxyz, you should file a bug for gedit then
[19:19] <unop> !bugs
[19:19] <frostburn> callum_, you can sync photos using the usb cable, music is only done through itunes
[19:19] <QxGY> rhin0: but i am able to download that specific .deb from the repository using wget
[19:20] <djzn> sebsebseb: but you're then telling me that ATI is open source, but not so good?
[19:20] <mrxyz> unop: Great, I have a couple of alternatives right now. I'll see what kind of solution will do the job.
[19:20] <sebsebseb> djzn: I think with Nivida and Linux  though,   the issues will come, if  your using a really old graphics card,   or  you got something way to fancy.
[19:20] <erisol> c0nn3x what audio mixer are you using to control volume?
[19:20] <JBauer> n0gear, thanks a lot anyway. hope i'll get it in the end
[19:20] <darrob> hi, is somebody here using cmus? i can't seem to get it to play m4a files. i did faad and the other dependencies that are listed on the website.
[19:20] <rhin0> QxGY: not sure then, I tend to avoid apt-get if possible and download the latest .deb from the source for latest build
[19:20] <sebsebseb> djzn: well people have had issues with all of them,  Intel,  AMD,  Nivida, etc,  but generally  Nivida works well on Linux,  as for ATI  I haven't used them for graphics as far as I know
[19:20] <mrxyz> unop: Yeah, maybe I'll. I have to buy some food now. Be back later today.
[19:21] <mrxyz> unop: Thank you for all help!
[19:21] <unop> mrxyz, ok cool :)
[19:21] <sebsebseb> djzn: or is the other computer ATI hmm
[19:21] <ronniehood> nvidia ->vdpau !!!
[19:21] <djzn> sebsebseb: i have also used the downloadable nvidia stock driver in linux and worked quite well....
[19:21] <c0nn3x> erisol, Conexant CX20551?
[19:21] <woodworker> once you edit something in sudo nano how do you get out?
[19:21] <sebsebseb> djzn: well  with Ubuntu getting the driver directly from  Nivida tends to mess things up
[19:21] <unop> woodworker, ctrl+x i think
[19:22] <erisol> are you using pulse audio or alsa?
[19:22] <fccf> woodworker ... Ctrl-O to save Ctrl-x to exit
[19:22] <sebsebseb> djzn: hence why  I sadi to get from the repo earlier
[19:22] <woodworker> thanks!
[19:22] <c0nn3x> erisol,  some oss mixer
[19:22] <sebsebseb> djzn: well I have said  what I can say basically so,  you could always  Google for more info,  or  go to  ##linux  the general Linux channel and find out more there
[19:23] <c0nn3x> erisol, i can use alsa if its whats working
[19:24] <c0nn3x> erisol, dont mind my english
[19:24] <QxGY> is there any way I can see more verbose results of apt-get, so I can figure out where exactly its stuck?
[19:25] <sebsebseb> djzn: oh yeah  your questions are about Hardware and Linux so ##hardware makes sense
[19:25] <c0nn3x> erisol, ill set it too HDA intel Alsa mixer
[19:25] <woodworker> when I do ifconfig and go to the internet addr: on another computer........ moodle tutorial says to continue moodle install, but all my browser says is 'it work's!'  any ideas?
[19:26] <c0nn3x> erisol, still no sound.
[19:26] <unop> woodworker, you probably have to navigate to a special directory like  http://address/moodle
[19:27] <unop> woodworker, if not, try restarting apache.  sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[19:27] <morenojee> hello....I want to know the command line for checking DVD/CD media for read errors....anyone suggests
[19:27] <wizzo> How do I Uninstall Ubuntu (Take that GRUB off) so I can reinstall it inside of my windows Vista?
[19:27] <woodworker> unop: thanks...... it didnt say that on my tutorial
[19:28] <unop> woodworker, i'm only guessing tho.
[19:28] <sebsebseb> wizzo: you used Wubi?
[19:28] <woodworker> unop:  it worked
[19:28] <unop> woodworker, nice
[19:28] <erxin> i have mounted the same device twice on my desktop, i cant unmount them now, anyone a solution ?
[19:28] <MK13> erxin, what errors are you getting?
[19:29] <henux> do you know how to install the non-OSE virtualbox in ubuntu, the one which supports USB ports? there seems to only be virtualbox-ose package in the repos
[19:29] <woodworker> how can I find out what my MySQL database usename, password, and database are?
[19:29] <wizzo> sebsebseb: How do you use Wubi?
[19:29] <sebsebseb> henux: get it from http://www.virtualbox.org for Linux hsots
[19:29] <sebsebseb> hosts
[19:29] <MK13> henux, you can get the .deb for ubuntu from the website
[19:29] <sebsebseb> wizzo: what did you mean Ubuntu inside WIndows?
[19:29] <henux> k
[19:29] <henux> thx
[19:30] <erxin> MK13 : i use dutch ubuntu, but the translation is like this, "it seems like the device is mounted more times, unable to umount"
[19:30] <fccf> woodworker: when you installed mysql it asked you for a root password
[19:30] <erisol> c0nn3x sorry, I my computer froze and I had to reboot
[19:30] <woodworker> fccf:  I know that password
[19:31] <woodworker> fccf it says would not connect to the data base you specified......
[19:31] <c0nn3x> erisol, np. good your back :)
[19:31] <MK13> erxin, can you unmount by usin 'sudo umount /mountpoint' in stead of device name?
[19:31] <fccf> woodworker: the easy way is use user root
[19:31] <sebsebseb> !details |  wizzo
[19:31] <MrStein> Hi! How to change the host/computer name ? The wiki instructions to go into menu System -> Administration -> Networking does not work, since there is no System -> Administration -> Networking menu ...
[19:31] <woodworker> fccf:  thanks
[19:31] <unop> MK13, yes
[19:31] <sebsebseb> wizzo: Why do you want to get rid of  Grub?  and you made it sound like you  have Ubuntu inside Windows with Wubi?
[19:31] <c0nn3x> erisol, Im so green too ubuntu
[19:32] <erxin> MK13 : it worked to unmount from terminal thanks
[19:32] <MK13> erxin, no prob
[19:32] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Before I updated my computer and installed Vista, that was the way I had it installed and was able to add on things. This time I installed it from the original disc and on its own partition and am not able to add on things. The Grub loads first when I 1st boot, and am not sure on it.
[19:32] <sebsebseb> wizzo: you installed Ubuntu from inside Vista,  by the sounds of it, which means you used Wubi
[19:32] <MK13> unop, i was trying to help someone that mounted a device twice by mistake
[19:32] <kkerwin> Hi. Perusing my logs, and I get an alarmist, "TCP: Treason uncloaked!" message. My research has revealed that it may be just a bug, or it may be an attack. Thoughts, please? TIA.
[19:32] <unop> MK13, oh, my bad
[19:33] <unop> !hostname > MrStein
[19:33] <sebsebseb> wizzo: ok which OS are you on now?
[19:33] <MK13> unop, no problem, it was good to know it was atleast possible
[19:33] <wizzo> Vista, I don't have XP on anymore
[19:33] <sebsebseb> wizzo: sounds like the partitions may have gone wrong,  leaving you with not enough space to install stuff
[19:33] <MrStein> unop: yep, that is waht I said. That menu does not exist (in 8.04)
[19:33] <erisol> it's ok, we're all at different levels of new ;)
[19:34] <erisol> I'm here asking some questions myself
[19:34] <erisol> er, that was to c0nn3x
[19:34] <sebsebseb> erisol: some of us are  far from new
[19:34] <woodworker> how can I make my moodle directory writeable or how can I copy a code into the root directory manually...... remember I am on 2 different computers
[19:34] <c0nn3x> okay ;)
[19:34] <Dunge> How do I get the cross-compiler package g++-4.3-arm-linux-gnueabi on ubuntu? I tried adding the emdebian address to apt-get source list, but it tells me "Depends: libgomp1 (>= 4.3.2-1.1) but 4.3.2-1ubuntu12 is to be installed" .. Which is the same version but ubuntu instead of Debian
[19:34] <unop> MrStein, use the alternative way ubottu suggests then
[19:34] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Right. I went in to increase the partitions and don't see it in there. Just 1 partition, main one
[19:34] <fccf> ersol: been doing this for 4 years ... I can't consider myself new anymore
[19:34] <hackel> Does anyone know of a push gmail checker? (one that does not poll but just keeps an open connection like IMAP IDLE)
[19:35] <erisol> sebsebseb, fccf, I doubt you would claim to know *everything* about ubuntu or linux
[19:35] <sebsebseb> wizzo: and you let  the installer resize Vista maybe, which can cause dataloss hmm
[19:35] <fccf> woodworker: sudo chown www-data www-data /var/www/moodle -R
[19:35] <unop> woodworker, you want to copy something from one computer to another?
[19:35] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I just want to uninstall Ubuntu and start all over fresh
[19:35] <fccf> erisol: I wish I knew everything
[19:35] <wizzo> sebsebseb: yea
[19:35] <erisol> lol
[19:35] <fccf> woodworker: sorry thats sudo chown www-data:www-data /var/www/moodle -R
[19:35] <sebsebseb> wizzo: why Windows on there by the way?  gaming?
[19:35] <MaT-dg> can I have mulitple instaces of tomem movie player?
[19:36] <MaT-dg> totem*
[19:36] <c0nn3x> erisol, Ill try some thinks thanks for the help ;)
[19:36] <sebsebseb> wizzo: really  should use Vista's  partition resize to resize it,  or dataloss can happen as I said
[19:36] <sebsebseb> partition resizer
[19:36] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Basically, it doesn't matter. Which is better? Then so I have room to add on things from Ubuntu
[19:36] <a514> Hi firestarter is blocking my wireless connection ? How do i fix that
[19:36] <woodworker> fccf:  in the tutorial it was www-data.www-data  will that make a difference?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I think just got to get your partitions sorted out probably
[19:37] <unop> woodworker, same difference
[19:37] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I really don't have much data on here except email
[19:37] <fccf> woodworker normally it uses the :
[19:37] <jwerth> Hey, folks! I was wondering if anyone kows where the config file is for touchpads in Ubuntu? Specifically I'm using notebook remix - I'm trying to add something to its multitouch support
[19:37] <MK13> is there a way to keep ubuntu from anwsering ping requests?
[19:37] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Then how do I go about doing that.
[19:37] <jwerth> MK13: Well, you can block the ports using iptables
[19:38] <sebsebseb> wizzo: Want to sort Ubuntu out and get rid of Vista maybe?   or  with enough RAM,   have a virtual machine of it,    unless your doing say 3D gaming or some such
[19:38] <sebsebseb> wizzo: go on the Ubuntu Live CD
[19:38] <MK13> jwerth, kk, and i think xorg handles mice
[19:38] <TitanioV> Good morning here. Is there someone familiar with nVidia troubles?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> wizzo: and come back here
[19:38] <wizzo> sebsebseb: No! I still want my VISTA on here
[19:38] <sebsebseb> wizzo: that's what I thought
[19:38] <unop> woodworker, but you shouldn't do that if you can help it .. it allows the webserver to write to those directories - which is not good news for security.
[19:39] <sebsebseb> wizzo: oh maybe it's worth taking a look at the  vista partition resizer
[19:39] <erisol> c0nn3x: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:39] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I have others that use my computer and they would be lost if I did that
[19:39] <woodworker> unop:  I had to do it..... this is just for a class project then the actuall site construction will be hosted on the school server
[19:39] <erisol> c0nn3x specifically: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[19:39] <jwerth> xorg.conf doesn't appear to be what controls touchpad behavior
[19:39] <wizzo> sebsebseb: ok, How do I do it?
[19:39] <sebsebseb> wizzo:   that vista icon instead of a start button
[19:39] <erisol> c0nn3x: options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL
[19:39] <sebsebseb> wizzo: right click my computer
[19:39] <stew> Dunge: 4.3.2-1.1 is not the same version as 4.3.2-1ubuntu12 as far as dpkg is concerned, 4.3.2-1ubuntu12 < 4.3.2-1.1 ; its not recommended to install debian packages onto a ubuntu install and vice versa
[19:40] <unop> woodworker, ok, just keeping you aware
[19:40] <fccf> unop: moodle needs to be able to write to it's filesystem
[19:40] <sebsebseb> wizzo: system managment or something.   I am on Ubuntu having fun with virtual machines :)
[19:40] <Dunge> stew : ok,..... is there an ubuntu version of gcc-eabi?
[19:40] <woodworker> unop:  can I take that off once I am done setting up?  or will that keep me from editing my site
[19:40] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I am in Ubuntu now, not Vista
[19:41] <sebsebseb> wizzo: oh ok
[19:41] <stew> Dunge: i dont' know
[19:41] <sebsebseb> wizzo: it dosan't come by default hmm
[19:41] <sebsebseb> wizzo: the partition editor
[19:41] <TitanioV> Good morning here. Is there someone familiar with nVidia troubles? Or maybe with DVI connectors.
[19:41] <unop> woodworker, i dunno really, not sure about how moodle works, as i said "if you can help it .. "
[19:41] <c0nn3x> erisol, Okay ill try thanks
[19:41] <sebsebseb> wizzo: or  graphical programs that show the free space
[19:41] <wizzo> sebsebseb: yes
[19:41] <sebsebseb> wizzo: it's there on the  Live CD though the partition editor, but you can try installing.   open the terminal  sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:41] <MK13> sebsebseb, it is manage(ment) from the right click menu :)
[19:41] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Can you do it in Ubuntu? Resize the partitions?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> wizzo: not the running Ubuntu partition, you need the Live CD for that
[19:42] <sebsebseb> MK13: ok well turns out he is on Ubuntu anyway :)
[19:42] <erisol> c0nn3x you will need to reboot after you do that
[19:42] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I am running it now,  sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:43] <fccf> woodworker: moodle is inheirently reasonably secure, if you want to lock it down .. that is ok... but some folders need to remain writealbe
[19:43] <woodworker> fccf:  that is cool just learning
[19:43] <Dunge> So.... where's the place for cross-compiler package on ubuntu? Anyone? There's no EmUbuntu repository or something??
[19:43] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Now what?
[19:43] <sebsebseb> !screenshot |  wizzo
[19:43] <diffred> equivalent of #include <GL/glut.h> in a cpp file in Ubuntu?
[19:44] <Agion> Hi. I can't open my cd-rom device! It just physically won't open even if I press it to.. any help?
[19:44] <space_cadet> help i can't run gparted
[19:44] <MK13> does anyone here have the agere dialup modem working in an acer 4520 (or in any computer at all) i am currently looking at the modem how-to on ubuntu's wiki
[19:44] <sebsebseb> wizzo: after opening the program of course  system > administaration > partition editor
[19:44] <fccf> Agion: type sudo eject at terminal
[19:44] <ricardo_> sudo gparted
[19:44] <Agion> thanks fccf
[19:44] <sebsebseb> RichiH_: gksudo for graphical apps
[19:44] <space_cadet> help i can't sudo gparted
[19:44] <linduxed> why cant i have sound from two sources at a time....
[19:44] <kuba_> część?
[19:44] <space_cadet> it opens then closes
[19:44] <space_cadet> er
[19:44] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: gksudo gparted
[19:44] <fccf> !cz | kuba_
[19:45] <space_cadet> still
[19:45] <space_cadet> sebsebseb,
[19:45] <space_cadet> that didn't help
[19:45] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: is it installed?
[19:45] <space_cadet> yes
[19:45] <space_cadet> and it opens but closes
[19:45] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: system > adminstaration > partition editor
[19:45] <space_cadet> nope
[19:45] <space_cadet> don't you think I already tried that?
[19:45] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: well you can try qtparted instead if you want, it's a KDE app though, so  if it's the first one you have installed, it will want to put a bit of KDE stuff on as well
[19:46] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I have it open, now what?
[19:46] <space_cadet> lemmie wait till the updates are done
[19:46] <sebsebseb> wizzo: screenshot
[19:46] <space_cadet> then i'll test gparted
[19:46] <ohir__> !pl | kuba_
[19:47] <sebsebseb> wizzo:  http://imageshack.us
[19:47] <wizzo> sebsebseb: How do I do that from Imagebin
[19:47] <space_cadet> E: Couldn't find package qtparted
[19:47] <sebsebseb> wizzo: just upload to the site I gave
[19:47] <sebsebseb> wizzo: and get me the link
[19:48] <Dunge> So.... where's the place for cross-compiler package on ubuntu? EmDebian equivalent? There's no EmUbuntu repository or something??
[19:48] <c0nn3x> erisol, model=MODEL ? Ore model=toshiba ?
[19:49] <wizzo> sebsebseb: So you want a copy of my desktop where it shows the partitons? If so, how do I get that and paste it in there from the desktop?
[19:49] <Agion> how can I mount a cd?
[19:49] <sebsebseb> wizzo: press  print screen  or  prtsc sys rq  when  it's showing on the screen, that button should be on the  very top right of your keyboard
[19:49] <space_cadet> here:  sebsebseb http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/219193/
[19:50] <space_cadet> that's what happens when i gksudo gparted
[19:50] <LordLandon> space_cadet: O=
[19:50] <space_cadet> and i'm assuming that's what happens when I ubuntu >system > administration > partition editor
[19:50] <space_cadet> cause it acts the same
[19:51] <fwaokda> :( everytime I think I can make a complete switch to Ubuntu I end up have a couple of things that just don't allow me too /cry
[19:51] <erisol> c0nn3x, definitely not model=MODEL. I used model=basic, but try model=toshiba
[19:51] <woodworker> thanks to all of you who helped........ you guys are amazing!!!!:-D
[19:51] <TitanioV> My problem is: My Ubuntu 9.04 (and earliers) recognize only 1280x1024 as native resolution of my FullHD monitor through DVI. Can I get max resolution?
[19:51] <keglevich> one question...in ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition...how is it possible to disable those annoying update notifications which are displayed each time when I login via SSH terminal? (updates like: xx system updates, xx security updates available)...how to disable that notification?!
[19:51] <space_cadet> hrm
[19:51] <fccf> fwaokda:  O:-) often expierence the same thing myself
[19:51] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: yeah looks odd
[19:51] <space_cadet> heh heh
[19:52] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Ok, I clicked on Host it after putting it in there
[19:52] <space_cadet> i unplug my ipod and it works fine
[19:52] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Now what?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> wizzo: get me the link
[19:52] <fccf> woodworker: no problem ... I trust you have moodle running then?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: well some where will be  gparted's  program user data as well
[19:52] <fwaokda> fccf, yerp looks as if I'm going to have to dualboot since VBox won't solve my problems - sux
[19:52] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: you know about the hidden folders in home right?
[19:52] <woodworker> fccf:  yes I have my site up!!! after about 20 hours
[19:53] <alteregoa> high
[19:53] <alteregoa> !seen quato
[19:53] <t0mmyw> so a few minutes ago my ubuntu 8.10 desktop went a little nuts and now I can't get X/gnome running properly.  I just get a blank white screen with the arrow cursor.  any ideas what happened?
[19:53] <fccf> fwaokda: why cannot you run ubuntu in vbox?
[19:53] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, well i unplug my newly fdisked ipod, and it works
[19:53] <wizzo> http://img406.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img406/27/screenshot1iom.png
[19:53] <space_cadet> then in plug it back in and rescan drives and it's broke again
[19:53] <space_cadet> guess i'm gonna have to umm play with it?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: you can try qtparted as well
[19:53] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: as I already said
[19:53] <c0nn3x> erisol, okay
[19:54] <space_cadet> can't install it
[19:54] <space_cadet> it don't exist
[19:54] <fwaokda> fccf, nah I'm using ubuntu running windowxp in vbox.. but I can't get bluray drive to work in vbox :(
[19:54] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Is that what you wanted?
[19:54] <alteregoa> a fantspastic image
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !find qtparted
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !info qtparted
[19:54] <woodworker> fccf:  now for the fun part...... shut down the ubuntu and see if it is really persistent....... I tested with my wireless setting and it saved so wish me luck
[19:54] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: hmm
[19:54] <wizzo> sebsebseb: What is that other program, pastebin or something like that
[19:54] <space_cadet> one sec...
[19:54] <sebsebseb> wizzo: that's for text
[19:55] <wizzo> oh
[19:55] <space_cadet> ok a 40 gb ipod is coming back as 7 gb
[19:55] <space_cadet> how do i write all zeros to a disk?
[19:55] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Did you get what you wanted? http://img406.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img406/27/screenshot1iom.png
[19:55] <space_cadet> of /dev/null some crap?
[19:55] <fccf> fwaokda: and i trust you have read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[19:55] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: that's weird it does exist, and it should be in the repo,  I  look in synaptic for it and can't find it
[19:55] <LordLandon> space_cadet: cat /dev/zero > /dev/[that disk]
[19:55] <urbands> maxblast
[19:56] <t0mmyw> space_cadet: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda, where sda is the name of your disk
[19:56] <TitanioV> Insisting. My problem is: My Ubuntu 9.04 (and earliers) recognize only 1280x1024 as native resolution of my FullHD monitor through DVI. Can I get max resolution?
[19:56] <woodworker> fccf:  any words of advice for that
[19:56] <stew> space_cadet: "cp /dev/zero /dev/whatever" but be careful taht you are writing zeros to the correct device, of course
[19:56] <space_cadet> ty
[19:56] <space_cadet> :)
[19:56] <sebsebseb> wizzo: yeah, but  space_cadet
[19:56] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: What's the resolution of your monitor? It only can go up to that resolution.
[19:56] <fwaokda> fccf, ya from what I was told and could make out is that that works for very FEW disks and for the ones it does its a annoying process to get them going.
[19:56] <fccf> woodworker: um good luck ... moodle should work fine ... wireless.. again good luck
[19:56] <mrxyz> How can I get the line number at the same time I match an expression with grep?
[19:57] <wizzo> sebsebseb: What is space_cadet?
[19:57] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: 1920X1080
[19:57] <woodworker> fccf:  the wireless worked fine last time on restart
[19:57] <mobi-sheep> mrxyz: grep --help should tell you.
[19:57] <t0mmyw> anyone know why all of a sudden gnome would stop working and just display a blank white page with a cursor?
[19:57] <stew> mrxyz: with -n
[19:57] <space_cadet> wizzo, me :)
[19:57] <tbtroj> How can I have Audacious "skip taskbar"/"skip pager" in GNOME? (Ubuntu 9.04)
[19:57] <mrxyz> stew: That easy. Ok, I'll give it a try.
[19:57] <sebsebseb> wizzo: hmm  at your screenshot
[19:57] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Gnome? You enabled the hardware drivers?
[19:57] <sebsebseb> wizzo: have you taken a screenshot before? :D
[19:58] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I can only see a useless section of gparted on  the one you uploaded, try again
[19:58] <wizzo> sebsebseb: No, first time I have done this
[19:58] <fccf> fwaokda: yeah .. sometimes linux is a little behind when it comes to decoding of DRM material ...
[19:58] <streblo> noob alert question: just installed 9.04, and i made my password too strong to remember, so im locked out of my box. what do i do?
[19:58] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Yes, Gnome. Drivers are working very fine and showing effects.
[19:58] <sebsebseb> streblo: that's easy to solve
[19:58] <fwaokda> fccf, i blame windoze ;)
[19:58] <streblo> sebsebseb: great
[19:59] <fccf> fwaokda: I blame US copyright office and the Media Industry
[19:59] <sebsebseb> streblo: re boot, get the boot loader.   press esc I think it is for longer time,  since by default it's only showing for like 3 seconds
[19:59] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: You could try configuring it manually.
[19:59] <mobi-sheep> !x | TitanioV
[19:59] <sebsebseb> streblo: go into recovery mode,  get the root shell,  and then   put in:   passwd username
[19:59] <sebsebseb> streblo: and put in a new password
[19:59] <arand> streblo: weep. :) No, but you can choose rescue mode (or something like that when you boot, to get root console and you can change passwords there)
[19:59] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: I tried putting Modes: , but I think it was wrong. :P
[19:59] <TitanioV> ubottu: Watching your link
[20:00] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: In Xorg.conf?
[20:00] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Yes, Xorg.conf. I battled against him many times before.
[20:00] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Care to pastebin the Xorg?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> wizzo: upload a new one, where I can see the whole of gparted
[20:01] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: I warn you that it's a bit empty, but going!
[20:01] <wizzo> sebsebseb: My computer is asking me to update on the update manager. Should I do that yet? Or wait
[20:01] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Btw, Nvidia or ATI?  Model?
[20:01] <sebsebseb> wizzo: don't do that yet
[20:01] <Clouse> Hi all, just trying to work out how to boot ubuntu 9.04 to text only as I have completly screwed my graphics driver
[20:01] <wizzo> ok
[20:02] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: nVidia GeForce FX 5500.
[20:02] <sebsebseb> Clouse: don't need to do that
[20:02] <fccf> Clouse: press esc at first boot and go into recovery mode
[20:02] <sebsebseb> Clouse: yep what he said, and then do xfix
[20:02] <c0nn3x> erisol, Thanks for your help.. ill try later
[20:02] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Section "Monitor"
[20:02] <TitanioV> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[20:02] <TitanioV> EndSection
[20:02] <TitanioV> Section "Screen"
[20:02] <TitanioV> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[20:02] <FloodBot3> TitanioV: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <TitanioV> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[20:02] <streblo> thanks sebsebseb
[20:02] <sebsebseb> streblo: np :)
[20:02] <mobi-sheep> !pastebin | TitanioV
[20:02] <Clouse> Ok am trying now thanks
[20:03] <sebsebseb> streblo: remember letters and numbers at least for your password,  and ideally a hardware firewall whatever OS your running,  so one in a router should do it
[20:03] <rickard> Can I use sudo in a shell script to automate a command..   I mean.. can I pass username password as parameters with sudo?
[20:03] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/219198/   d'oh! :*)
[20:04] <wizzo> sebsebseb: http://img32.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img32/360/screenshotcni.png
[20:04] <unop> rickard, yes, but you don't want that - any person who can read the script can discover those credentials
[20:05] <Scunizi> I added the ppa & gpgkey for Inkscape to my sources.  After refreshing and looking in synaptic I see only one reference for inkscape. Shouldn't there be 2?  One representing the ubuntu supplied package and one for the PPA?
[20:05] <Clouse> sebsebseb: do you mean at grub boot menu?
[20:05] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I sent it to you again after doing it a 2nd time
[20:05] <unop> rickard, what you can do tho is get sudo to not prompt for a password for a set of commands.  see the /etc/sudoers file and man 5 sudoers
[20:05] <rickard> unop: How do I solve it?.. I need to mount a SMB share.. but I don´t wanna use fstab.. just mount -> copy -> umount
[20:05] <pratik_narain> can fspot detect laptop webcams
[20:05] <sebsebseb> wizzo: that's a screenshot of your IRC client, not gparted
[20:06] <sebsebseb> wizzo: it needs to show on screen when you press the button
[20:06] <fccf> Scunizi: it will only show one.. the latest version
[20:06] <woodworker> fccf:  so I shut down and restart...... I goback to my 192.***.*.* and it says page not found.. did I just lose everything?
[20:06] <ph8> is nautilus deprecated in jaunty?
[20:06] <Pici> ph8: no.
[20:06] <ph8> shame :/
[20:06] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I hit printscreen and saved it to desktop
[20:06] <ph8> it never seems to improve
[20:06] <sebsebseb> Clouse: yes Grub
[20:06] <ph8> i thought there was dolphin or something
[20:06] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i create my domain name on my server, I dont fully understand but is the domain the same as the hostname?
[20:06] <fccf> woodworker: probably not ... your ip may have changed though
[20:06] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Be patient. :)
[20:07] <Scunizi> fccf: so if I was to turn off the ppa and refresh I'd get the ubuntu supplied version?
[20:07] <Pici> ph8: Thats for KDE. Nautilus is the default Gnome file manager
[20:07] <fccf> Scunizi: yep
[20:07] <Scunizi> fccf: thanks.
[20:07] <wizzo> sebsebseb: THen you want fullscreen?
[20:07] <woodworker> fccf:  I check that with ifconfig it is still 192.168.1.3
[20:07] <sebsebseb> wizzo: open the file up before uploading even, so you can see what you took a screenshot of
[20:07] <fccf> woodworker: try localhost
[20:08] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I want  gparted I don't care about the other stuff
[20:08] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Some suggestions to add more resolutions, and get them to work?
[20:08] <woodworker> fccf:  huh?
[20:08] <fccf> woodworker: localhost/moodle - in firefox on the server
[20:08] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20resolution%20changes%20in%20xorg.conf
[20:09] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Look at "Setting Resolution Changes in Xorg.conf and the other one down below (Resolution lower than expected).
[20:09] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i create my domain name on my server, I dont fully understand but is the domain the same as the hostname?
[20:09] <Clouse> sebsebseb: I have a problem with that sorry but I edited my grub menu.list a while back and now I only have the normal ubuntu listing and my old xp listing, so what should I do now?
[20:09] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Wow! It changes with every version. :P
[20:10] <sebsebseb> Clouse: you can add back recovery mode
[20:10] <owen1> which bar should i use to control my alsamixer? master or PCM?
[20:10] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Er... ? :o
[20:10] <arand> rickard: I'm not sure it's the *recommended* way to do things, but have a look at the manual: man sudo ...specifically the -S option
[20:10] <fccf> Clouse: what version of ubuntu?
[20:10] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: I think that should be enough. I was barely lost. Ubuntu via VGA was playing fool with me before. Thank you!
[20:10] <Clouse> sebsebseb: Cool that is what I have been googleing
[20:10] <woodworker> fccf: /moodle not found
[20:10] <Clouse> fccf: 9.04
[20:10] <sebsebseb> Clouse: you can't log into Ubuntu at all, because  the graphics driver messed up yes?
[20:11] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: You're using VGA/DVI?
[20:11] <fccf> woodworker: wierd ... um check if apache is running ... System>Admin>services
[20:11] <Slavyanin> ПРивет народ
[20:11] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Right now DVI. My new monitor has it, and I'm trying to enjoy it.
[20:11] <sebsebseb> Clouse: before recovery mode, we all used Live CD's to fix stuff like that,  so I hope you got one still
[20:12] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: You said it changed?
[20:12] <Clouse> sebsebseb: Yes, I have been hit with the ATI GPU issuse and in my atemps to get OpenGL going I have totaly screwd it
[20:12] <fccf> Clouse: you can still get to recovery mode .. hold on while I check something
[20:12] <sebsebseb> Clouse: oh and had a guy earlier asking about what was the best graphics card
[20:13] <sebsebseb> Clouse: I wasn't sure what to say about ATI
[20:13] <Clouse> fccf: Thanks
[20:13] <woodworker> fccf:  apache2 webserver is there
[20:13] <arand> !ru | Slavyanin
[20:13] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i create my domain name on my server, I dont fully understand but is the domain the same as the hostname?
[20:13] <sebsebseb> Clouse: best graphics card for Linux that was
[20:13] <Clouse> sebsebseb: Not will 9.04 it would seem
[20:13] <sebsebseb> wizzo: any luck?
[20:13] <wizzo> sebsebseb: If this isn't what you want, then I am not sure how to do it.  http://img41.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img41/307/screenshotzti.png
[20:14] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Nah, forget it. I was just telling about past. In earlier versions of Ubuntu, when installing nVidia drivers, my earlier screen (only VGA) couldn't show its max resolution (the same one), or it showed just black, and I played a lot with xorg.conf without success. Just a chronicle.
[20:14] <laeg> what terminal client do i use on ububuntu can to access the cosnole port of a cisco 2600?
[20:14] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I know it sayslike Direct link to image or Short link to image
[20:14] <fccf> Clouse: do esc @ startup ... and change 'ro quiet splash' on the boot line to 'ro single' this will temporarly enable recovery mode
[20:14] <fhClient> Hi, all.  I started an upgrade from Ubuntu 7.x to 8.04, and localedef for en_US.UTF-8 has been running for almost 48 hours now, using a constant 5.6% of system memory and all available CPU power.  any suggestions?  do i just have to wait??
[20:15] <sebsebseb> wizzo: that is what I wanted, and it is what I thought
[20:15] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: But I'm reading the page you linked. It sems useful and all. :)
[20:15] <sebsebseb> wizzo: to small partition for Ubuntu
[20:15] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Try this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/219209/
[20:15] <fccf> woodworker: and if you just do localhost in firefox??
[20:15] <Clouse> sebsebseb: I have many live CDs here but when I boot them I can not access any of my partitions
[20:15] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Ok, I just made it full screen and then saved it
[20:15] <sebsebseb> Clouse: you should be able  to
[20:15] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV:
[20:15] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Hold on.  Mistakes.
[20:15] <wizzo> sebsebseb: So, now what I do to resize
[20:15] <sebsebseb> Clouse: mount the Ubuntu partition graphically,  or  use some command not sure what
[20:16] <Clouse> sebsebseb: I have never had this happen before
[20:16] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: That's my pastebin. X-D
[20:16] <sebsebseb> Clouse: if you install drivers from outside the Ubuntu repo, bad things can happen
[20:16] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: No it ain't. :o  http://paste.ubuntu.com/219210/
[20:16] <woodworker> fccf:  it brings up my page
[20:16] <keglevich> one question...in ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition...how is it possible to disable those annoying update notifications which are displayed each time when I login via SSH terminal? (updates like: xx system updates, xx security updates available)...how to disable that notification?!
[20:16] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Reaize on partitions or what is next to do?
[20:16] <tbtroj> How can I have Audacious "skip taskbar"/"skip pager" in GNOME? (Ubuntu 9.04)
[20:16] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I have done this before, helped people with this kind of thing
[20:16] <fccf> woodworker: moodle?
[20:16] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I mean resize
[20:16] <strangedaze32> can someone help explain how to pull network drivers from the 8.04 install cd for my new install.
[20:16] <Clouse> sebsebseb: Yes I know about mounting from the comand line I do it all the time
[20:16] <wizzo> sebsebseb: ok
[20:16] <woodworker> fccf:  yea
[20:17] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I'll get to that, but first,  I am curious,  how exactly did you install Ubuntu?
[20:17] <strangedaze32> or just help install my broadcom b43
[20:17] <mobi-sheep> !x | TitanioV (Restart your X).
[20:17] <Clouse> sebsebseb: Thats what has happen! lesson leard
[20:17] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: Just adding HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[20:17] <fccf> woodworker: so hmmm ... and doing 192.168.1.3 from the other machine does nothing?
[20:17] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Seems like it.  Yes.
[20:17] <woodworker> fccf:  it show the 'it works'
[20:17] <strangedaze32> b43-fwcutter isn't working, says E: returns nothing
[20:17] <Clouse> fccf: Thanks I will give that a try
[20:17] <sebsebseb> Clouse: there's alt something and you  get a shell,  mabye that's what fccf was thinking of
[20:18] <maximumbob> How can I figure out which device points to the mouse I'm using? I have a touchpad and a USB mouse, and I need to invert the USB mouse's axes in xorg.conf.
[20:18] <sebsebseb> Clouse: ,but easier to use the Live CD I expect
[20:18] <wizzo> sebsebseb: With the original disc that Ubuntu sent me, I picked the Install Ubuntu from the disc, I think the 2 or 3 choice down on the list
[20:18] <TitanioV> mobi-sheep: All right. Thank you again and keep up the good work. ^^
[20:18] <camt> maximumbob: ls -l /dev/input/by-id
[20:18] <sebsebseb> wizzo: did it ever resize Vista?
[20:18] <fccf> sebsebseb: CTRL-ALT-F1 gives shell but only if X hasn't compeltly locked up the system
[20:18] <mobi-sheep> TitanioV: Well -- Not yet -- until it works.
[20:18] <strangedaze32> no one? wow this irc channel moves fast. is there a network branch?
[20:18] <sebsebseb> wizzo: it dosn't look like it has resized Vista
[20:18] <TitanioV> ubottu: Thanks for your help, too. :D
[20:18] <TitanioV> ubottu: Who cares?
[20:19] <maximumbob> camt: thanks a lot
[20:19] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I don't think so
[20:19] <TitanioV> X-D
[20:19] <fhClient> Hi, all.  I started an upgrade from Ubuntu 7.x to 8.04, and localedef for en_US.UTF-8 has been running for almost 48 hours now, using a constant 5.6% of system memory and all available CPU power.  any suggestions?  do i just have to wait??
[20:19] <woodworker> fccf:  I just hit refresh ........... it is there now
[20:19] <Clouse> sebsebseb: This Live CD will not mount the ubuntu partition.
[20:19] <fccf> strangedaze32: nope, ... do sudo apt-get b43-fwcutter
[20:19] <mobi-sheep> Curious -- How long does dd generally take? and is there a /var/log/ for activities on dd?
[20:19] <sebsebseb> wizzo: sorting out your partitons is pretty simple.
[20:19] <sebsebseb> fccf  can you hopefuly help  Clouse ?
[20:19] <strangedaze32> #ubuntu-beginners
[20:20] <woodworker> fccf:  but I cant get to the log in page because it takes me to 192.168.1.3/moodle/login
[20:20] <sebsebseb> wizzo: do you understand gparted though? can you see what has happended for yourself?
[20:20] <wizzo> sebsebseb: No, it is new to me
[20:20] <fccf> Clouse: reboot ... the ESC to the grub menu page ... press e to edit the line and do what I said
[20:20] <DarkMage26> I'm looking for a good music player that has a built in equalizer with presets (eg. Rock, Rap....). Any one know of anything??
[20:20] <wizzo> sebsebseb: 1st time using it
[20:20] <tbtroj> DarkMage26, Audacious but you have to download the Winamp presets.
[20:21] <sebsebseb> wizzo: yeah  you seemed pretty new, since you coudn't even screenshot,  altough that's pretty common  in Windows as well
[20:21] <sebsebseb> wizzo: for people to do screenshots
[20:21] <fccf> woodworker: edit /var/www/moodle/configuration.php ... make the configs point to the right place
[20:21] <DarkMage26> tbtroj: I had problems with it freezing my system before. Anything else?
[20:21] <Clouse> fccf: Yar trying that now
[20:21] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I just want to explain something, before  helping with those partitions properly and so.  Do you know what a file system is?  e.g.  NTFS  or Fat32 in Windows?
[20:21] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Let me ask one question, would it been better to format my HD as FAT 32 Instead of NTFS before installing my VISTA?
[20:21] <woodworker> fccf:  so sudo nano.......... the file directory you said?
[20:22] <tbtroj> DarkMage26, XMMS2 is what Audacious is based off of, and supports presets.
[20:22] <DarkMage26> tbtroj: thanks
[20:22] <fccf> woodworker: whereever the moodle config is
[20:22] <fhClient> wizzo: i don't think vista supports fat32
[20:22] <mobi-sheep> wizzo: You can't.
[20:22] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Some. I was just asking you about that?
[20:22] <sebsebseb> wizzo: uh no,  Vista uses NTFS :)  in fact it uses a slightly later version than XP.  XP is  NTFS version 4 and Vista is NTFS version 5 if I have this correct
[20:22] <mlissner> I'm trying to recover some data from a drive after it was dropped, and I am getting input/output errors. I looked around, but I can't find a way to make the process work better. Does anybody know a way to copy files that will skip errors?
[20:22] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Ok
[20:22] <sebsebseb> wizzo: that is also why people should really resize Vista,  with  it's resizer
[20:22] <mlissner> My current strategy is scp, which eventually moves past them, but it's pretty laggy.
[20:23] <sebsebseb> wizzo: resizing XP partitions with Gparted no problem
[20:23] <woodworker> that came up blank
[20:23] <wizzo> sebsebseb: The Manager?
[20:23] <sagredo> hi. I'm trying to mount an external hard drive. I used umount /media/thedrivename, then tried to remount with 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/thedrivename', which fails
[20:23] <sebsebseb> wizzo: you will boot up Vista,  to  resize it
[20:23] <fccf> woodworker: cd into the moodle directory and do an ls to find the config file
[20:23] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Ok, how you go about doing it with Gparted then?
[20:23] <sebsebseb> wizzo: your not going to  use  Gparted to resize Vista
[20:24] <th0r> sagredo: is the drive in fstab?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> wizzo: I wanted the screenshot so I could see your partitions properly
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Ive found the vista and windows 7 tools (in windows) to be faster in resizeing ntfs.
[20:24] <sagredo> th0r: how do I check
[20:24] <mobi-sheep> sagredo: Check dmesg to see if it's same partition sdb1
[20:24] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Oh, then your saying to reboot in Vista and do it
[20:24] <Clouse> fccf: Thank you spot on! Now should I try xfix or should I do something else?
[20:24] <woodworker> fccf:  sorry over my head still
[20:24] <keglevich> one question...in ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition...how is it possible to disable those annoying update notifications which are displayed each time when I login via SSH terminal? (updates like: xx system updates, xx security updates available)...how to disable that notification?!
[20:24] <fccf> Clouse: start with the xfix
[20:24] <th0r> sagredo: what kind of drive is it? do you know the format of the drive?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> wizzo:  i found the vista tool to resize a ntfs in like 1/4 the time it took ubuntu do to it.
[20:24] <fccf> woodworker: pm me
[20:24] <sebsebseb> wizzo: yes,  but  I want to say something else,  give you a little tip for the future,  as in  the end of October, when  Ubuntu 9.10 comes out
[20:24] <JuoN> hello
[20:24] <wizzo> sebsebseb: So, I can't resize here in Ubuntu?
[20:24] <gletob> Anyone know how to get X working on a ATI 3D Rage IIc
[20:25] <sagredo> ntfs, but it worked fine for read/write houndreds of time before I tried unmounted it
[20:25] <wizzo> oh
[20:25] <JuoN> how i can patch my driver?
[20:25] <Clouse> fccf: Cool will do and thanks again
[20:25] <Dunge> Where do I specify header include path inside an C++ Anjuta project? For some reason including <gtkmm.h> find it and it works, but inside that .h file it try to include <giomm.h> (which I have) and say "no such file or directory"
[20:25] <arish> hi
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> JuoN:  be more specific to the channel please.
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> never mind...
[20:25] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Yea, then what?
[20:25] <th0r> sagredo: if it is a usb drive just unplug it and plug it in again
[20:25] <Owners> hello
[20:25] <Haymaker> I recently created a swap partition on my hard drive, how do I get my system to use it, my sys monitor says i dont have a swap drive yet
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> Haymaker:  put an entry in /etc/fstab for it.
[20:26] <sagredo> [55728.163955] usb-storage: device scan complete
[20:26] <mobi-sheep> Owners: Hello Juon. :)
[20:26] <sebsebseb> wizzo: by default  Ubuntu is using the Ext3 file system, as you can see for yourself,  but   the next version is  using the faster  Ext4 file system by default, but that means people have to clean install for full support.  and it could be used now for 9.04, but some think it's not stable enough yet  or whatever
[20:26] <Haymaker> ok thanks
[20:26] <sagredo> th0r: that was the first thing I tried, no luck
[20:26] <mobi-sheep> Owners: Talk here.
[20:26] <mobi-sheep> !pm > Owners
[20:26] <wizzo> sebsebseb: In other words, it is a beta version right now.
[20:27] <fhClient> During a distribution upgrade, is localedef supposed to take over 48 hours?
[20:27] <sebsebseb> wizzo: and the conversion isn't perfect Ext3 to Ext4.   that stuff make sense?
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> fhClient:  no - somthing has crashed.
[20:27] <sebsebseb> wizzo: no  the file system is stable really now,  just not quite in Ubuntu 9.04 or something
[20:27] <Shinka> I don't remember the command to set Sun instead of openJDK for Java dev.
[20:27] <fhClient> Dr_Willis: any suggestions about recovering?
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> fhClient:  or you are an a 286 machine.
[20:27] <Owners> mobi-sheep: how to patch my driver?
[20:27] <sebsebseb> wizzo: ,because of the kernel 9.04 uses and so on
[20:27] <canada> I need some help.  My firefox has lost all its bookmarks, Nothing new enters into the history, Many website buttons do not work and I cannot go backwards or forwards.  Cannot even log onto launchpad to report the bug.  Firefox 3.0.11
[20:27] <Owners> i`am using b43
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> fhClient:  no idea. i always do clean installs..i never (or rarely) upgrade
[20:27] <fhClient> Dr_Willis: Athlon 64, a gig of ram :)
[20:27] <th0r> sagredo: do an 'ls -' /media' in a terminal and see if there is a mount point for the drive. If it is a usb drive you will need to make a mount point for it somewhere for the time being
[20:27] <Owners> and i want to patch the driver
[20:28] <fhClient> Dr_Willis: Yep, today i came equipped to just back up, wipe, and fresh install 9.04.  TY
[20:28] <sebsebseb> wizzo: resizing Ext3 in Ubuntu no problem,  resizing Ext4 in Ubuntu,  I am not so sure about that,  after  reading stuff in the release notes
[20:28] <frostburn> canada, did you try moving your firefox profile folder?
[20:28] <Clouse> fccf: nope still crazy pixel acction all over the screen and no login window
[20:28] <sebsebseb> !notes |  wizzo
[20:28] <wizzo> sebsebseb: So what is the next thing to do here?
[20:28] <Owners> mobi-sheep:
[20:28] <Clouse> fccf: What do you think I should do now?
[20:28] <mobi-sheep> Owners: Kernel?
[20:28] <sebsebseb> wizzo: your going to boot up Vista, and resize there
[20:28] <canada> Frostburn   no I have not
[20:28] <wizzo> ubottu: ok
[20:29] <Owners> 2.6.28-13-generic
[20:29] <th0r> sagr....that should have been 'ls -l /media'
[20:29] <sebsebseb> !bot |  wizzo
[20:29] <Owners> mobi-sheep: 2.6.28-13-generic
[20:29] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Ok
[20:29] <mobi-sheep> Owners: You want to patch something to your kernel?
[20:29] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  wizzo
[20:29] <mobi-sheep> !kernel | Owners
[20:29] <mobi-sheep> !kernel > Owners
[20:29] <mobi-sheep> !stages > Owners
[20:30] <frostburn> canada, you may also want to check out mozilla weave, they offer a bookmark syncing service akin to what google sync did before they nixed the project for 3.0
[20:30] <Dunge> !giomm
[20:30] <wizzo> sebsebseb: So, reboot Vista and goto the manager and resize there , but I am not sure what to resize too on it for the Ubuntu
[20:30] <sebsebseb> wizzo: you will come back  to the channel when your on Vista, and we continue
[20:30] <fccf> Clouse: get to a terminal and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[20:30] <wizzo> sebsebseb: What is a bot?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> wizzo: it's a  computer program for the channel
[20:31] <fccf> Clouse: in your case no sudo cause you will be root at the recovery console
[20:31] <maximumbob> I'm having issues getting a secondary mouse configured. I added an 'inputdevice' entry to my xorg.conf. The option "Device" I specfied is correct - cat /dev/input/js0 outputs when I move the mouse.
[20:31] <sebsebseb> wizzo: with useful information
[20:31] <sebsebseb> wizzo: and people trigger it,  so it says stuff
[20:31] <wizzo> sebsebseb: oh
[20:31] <Owners> mobi-sheep: i must to compile?
[20:31] <maximumbob> But nothing changes when I use it. (I set optino "InvX" "on")
[20:31] <sebsebseb> !bot |  wizzo
[20:31] <Owners> mobi-sheep: how to compile ?
[20:31] <Klowny> so
[20:32] <mobi-sheep> Owners: It's all in the links.
[20:32] <Klowny> i am not overly fond of wine lol
[20:32] <wizzo> sebsebseb: what I need to resize it too?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> wizzo: and the channel operators can edit and add factoids to it
[20:32] <sebsebseb> wizzo: i'll explain once your on Vista, and you came back here
[20:32] <Clouse> fccf: Great! that is the command I have seen form googleing but I just haven't been able to get in to a terminal as root to try it out
[20:33] <fccf> Clouse: and you fixed your server?
[20:33] <mordocai> I have dual screens and wish to have two different firefox instances open, one on each screen. I'm using seperate x screens, and when i try to open a firefox one screen, then another one on the other i get: "Firefox is already running, but is not responding..."
[20:33] <sebsebseb> Klowny: don't like Wine :)  yeah should run  native  Linux stuff  only  or firstly :)  really
[20:33] <Klowny> i feel that way too sebsebseb
[20:33] <Clouse> fccf: Not quite there yer
[20:33] <Clouse> yet
[20:33] <Klowny> hey is the google OS going to be linux?
[20:34] <Klowny> i imagine it will be but just wondering
[20:34] <canada> frostburn, the bookmarks isnt a big deal, just the first symptom noticed.  Where is the profile folder i should move?
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Klowny:  yes it will be  a Linux distribution
[20:34] <wizzo> sebsebseb: How you goint to do that when I have Vista and not you with me unless your taking about a chat program
[20:34] <sebsebseb> wizzo: oh I see you don't have a IRC client on Vista
[20:34] <Klowny> i bet it will be nice
[20:34] <maximumbob> I'm having issues getting a secondary mouse configured. I added an 'inputdevice' entry to my xorg.conf. The option "Device" I specfied is correct - cat /dev/input/js0 outputs when I move the mouse, but nothing changes when I use it after restarting X. (I set option "InvX" "on")
[20:34] <sebsebseb> wizzo: are you running FIrefox on Vista?
[20:34] <Klowny> but i will be weary of it... big companies can sometimes be a bad thing 'cough' microsoft
[20:34] <wizzo> sebsebseb: No, how is that setup? Firefox
[20:35] <Klowny> which don't get me wrong windows xp was nice, i liked it, still like it but with the introduction of windows vista it made me die a little inside
[20:35] <wizzo> sebsebseb: I have Firefox
[20:35] <sebsebseb> wizzo: ok do you know how to install an add on for Firefox?
[20:35] <wizzo> sebsebseb: Yes I do.
[20:35] <fccf> Clouse: well .. we have made a dent at least
[20:35] <sebsebseb> wizzo: install chatzilla and come back to this  channel  using that
[20:35] <wizzo> sebsebseb: so it is called IRC client
[20:35] <Clouse> fccf: Yep all thanks to you and sebsebseb!
[20:36] <wizzo> oh, yea I have heard of that before
[20:36] <sebsebseb> wizzo: chatzilla is one of many IRC programs
[20:36] <Klowny> kinda sad that google chrome os is going to be mainly for netbooks
[20:36] <sebsebseb> wizzo: xchat 2 for Windows if you want a more proper IRC program on there
[20:36] <sebsebseb> wizzo: ,but chatzilla is fine for this
[20:36] <wizzo> sebsebseb: ok, see you in bit
[20:36] <fccf> Klowny: not true
[20:37] <joshuajonah> Can i get UNR support here?
[20:37] <camt> maximumbob: Does it work without the InvX option?
[20:37] <maximumbob> camt: I don't know - how can I tell? It works without the whole block... it just uses the default.
[20:37] <sebsebseb> joshuajonah: yep
[20:37] <sourjuice> what does one do after creating a partition on an SD disk with gparted (i think i need to make a partition table but have ubuntu and no plans to use MSDOS)? i plan to use it as a liveCD through netbootin. is there a linux table preferred?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> joshuajonah: not from me though
[20:38] <joshuajonah> I'm trying the live cd (well, usb) version before i install, but it's asking for a username and password, what is the default?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> joshuajonah: weird, but I guess try Ubuntu and Ubuntu
[20:38] <gartral> alright... im having a SUS day.. whats the command too monitor my fans' rpms?
[20:38] <maximumbob> camt: http://pastebin.com/m2063dc26
[20:38] <joshuajonah> nopers, I've tried with no pass, everything i can think of.
[20:39] <camt> maximumbob: Okay one sec, let me have a look
[20:39] <matrix_> hey guys i installed eurotalk application learn italian, the sound its not working, when i run the other application learn french the sound works does this mean there is a bug on the application 1, iam on ubuntu using wine
[20:39] <joshuajonah> well, this sucks
[20:39] <unitxt> Flash keep crashing Firefox on Ubunutu 9.04. In fact, it will not even play Flash most of the time. Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
[20:39] <poke`> Hello, I have a question regarding IPTables; I followed the basic instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo but now, after adding the last drop line to it, iptables blocks nearly all communication (for example apt-get doesn't work any longer). My current iptables settings output is the following: http://pastebin.com/dbfd8f63
[20:39] <joshuajonah> Any other live cd recommendations?
[20:40] <sebsebseb> matrix_: hmm
[20:40] <joshuajonah> is there somewhere i can download an 8.10 unr version?
[20:40] <Irreduc_iPod> joshuajonah: SLAX
[20:40] <muski> ciao
[20:40] <sagredo> yo I need to add an external harddrive to my fstab, who can help me pwn this?
[20:40] <joshuajonah> i was thinking maybe xubuntu
[20:41] <sebsebseb> matrix_: the application itself is  probably  ok,  if  it's running on Windows
[20:41] <gartral> alright... im having a SUS day.. whats the command too monitor my fans' speed?
[20:41] <dayo> !fstab | sagredo
[20:41] <fccf> joshuajonah: 9.04 is the only available UNR version
[20:41] <sebsebseb> matrix_: Wine is pretty good, but far from perfect,  certain apps just work, others need configuring
[20:41] <sagredo> dayo: thanks I'm there
[20:42] <Clouse> fccf: I am Back. so how do I get from the Recovery menu to terminal as root so I can unlesh that command?
[20:42] <sebsebseb> matrix_: How much RAM do you have?  ,because with enough you can run Windows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine,   not that good for 3D gaming, but  for your app  it will be good
[20:42] <joshuajonah> i can't get the damn install to work, I've tried making the usb stick from OSX, another ubuntu machine, windows, nothing will let it install, it justs hangs at "loading"
[20:42] <Clouse> fccf: Sorry i see silly question
[20:42] <fccf> Clouse: at recovery menu use the root menu option
[20:42] <fccf> Clouse: ok you got it
[20:42] <matrix_> sebsebseb:iam using pentium 4, and i have 1gb ram
[20:42] <dayo> sagredo: i've got an apple timecapsule mounted as external hd like so:
[20:43] <sebsebseb> matrix_: that will do it
[20:43] <dayo> sagredo: //192.168.1.9/disk/ /media/capsule cifs rw,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[20:43] <dayo> sagredo: that's in /etc/fstab
[20:43] <sebsebseb> matrix_: well XP and  a few other versions, not sure about Vista
[20:43] <sebsebseb> matrix_: as much as I like virtual machines though
[20:43] <sebsebseb> matrix_: they should really be a last resort when it comes to Windows programs, before doing a psyical boot
[20:43] <sebsebseb> matrix_: if the vm won't cut it
[20:44] <dayo> sagredo: u create the mount point on your desktop/laptop, which in my case is /media/capsule and then mount your ext into /media/capsule
[20:44] <sebsebseb> matrix_: XP,  Windows 7 RC,   etc etc,  should all run in VM on your computer, not sure about Vista
[20:44] <sagredo> dayo: I'll give it a shot
[20:44] <Clouse> fccf: thats weird it's not excepting my root password
[20:44] <sagredo> dayo: makes sense to me, thanks my friend
[20:45] <sebsebseb> matrix_: try #winehq  they may have some ideas on how to get your program to work properly in Wine
[20:45] <Dekko> Hello :) I have setup my computer to run 2 monitors as "separate X desktops" which works fine, I can move the mouse between them.... BUT I can not drag windows between them.... what gives? :) I didn't like the Twinview thing where the desktop was stretched across either.
[20:45] <matrix_> but the application learn french works with sound why this learn italian its not working
[20:45] <dayo> sagredo: u're welcome :-)
[20:45] <sebsebseb> matrix_: try #winehq
[20:45] <notdarkyet> hey anyone know how to autoload an applet in the bar on the program launch? similar to how rhythmbox and pidgen do it
[20:46] <Clouse> fccf: Any ideas?
[20:46] <sagredo> dayo: after editing fstab need I restart the machine? is there a command to remount everything?
[20:46] <dayo> sagredo: sudo mount -a
[20:47] <Clouse> fccf: It's the same password as when I do sudo right?
[20:47] <notdarkyet> or could you point me somewhere to look? the gtk room was empty
[20:47] <camt> maximumbob: sorry for the delay, caught some boss aggro
[20:47] <urko> Hello. I am using ati radeon 9600pro graphic aclerator and I am wondering if it si supportet under jaunty and I need link how to manually install dem? Thnx
[20:47] <sagredo> [57007.862001]  CIFS VFS: No username specified
[20:47] <sagredo> [57007.862013]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[20:47] <maximumbob> camt: np
[20:47] <sagredo> dayo: ^
[20:47] <Dekko> could someone help me with this? :)
[20:47] <Dekko> I want to output VLC video to the second monitor :)
[20:47] <Clouse> fccf: Cos I never my root login in ubuntu
[20:47] <dayo> sagredo: can u post the line u added to /etc/fstab
[20:47] <rohan> i have both -server and -generic kernels installed on my system, hence both are shown in grub menu. however, i want only the -server one to be shown, yet i don't want to uninstall -generic, it might come in handy sometime. how do i do that?
[20:47] <Shinka> How can I set Sun Java as my default Java environment ?
[20:48] <dayo> rohan: edit menu.lst
[20:48] <fccf> Clouse: you shouldn't need a root password for recovery mode ... unless you actually set the root password
[20:48] <rohan> Shinka: sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun
[20:48] <Shinka> rohan: thank you very much
[20:48] <rohan> dayo: i can edit it manually, but it will just get overwritten during the next update-grub.
[20:49] <rohan> Shinka: np
[20:49] <Nitsuga> rohan, see the commented section above the kernels, there are some handy options
[20:49] <sagredo> dayo: I used exactly what you posted, except I named it /media/<myname>
[20:50] <Clouse> fccf: well now I am stuffed
[20:50] <camt> maximumbob: did you say this was a secondary mouse?
[20:50] <dayo> sagredo: the first part of what i posted needs to be customized, too. when u type   fdisk -l   it gives u the device name of the ext hd. that's what u put in the first part of the line in /etc/fstab
[20:50] <Shinka> rohan: It does seem to work when I use the command, but do I need to restart my computer or do something else ? I tried to run NetBeans and it doesn't work (openJDK is uninstalled)
[20:50] <sagredo> dayo: duh
[20:50] <urko> Hello. I am using ati radeon 9600pro graphic aclerator and I am wondering if it si supportet under jaunty and I need link how to manually install dem? Thnx
[20:50] <sagredo> dayo: thanks again
[20:51] <dayo> sagredo: u're welcome
[20:51] <rohan> Nitsuga: what i think might be useful is "howmany=1", but no other optoin to ignore a kernel as such
[20:51] <rohan> Shinka: that should set sun java to be the default even if you have openjdk installed alongside. a reboot should not be required, logout and log back in, that might help.
[20:51] <brentv911> What is the easiest way to connect Ubuntu to a windows remote desktop
[20:51] <sagredo> dayo: returns this now: 57287.864885] CIFS: UNC Path does not begin with // or \\
[20:52] <sagredo> [57287.864896]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[20:52] <snarkster> has anyone used roadnav and come up with getting alot fo errors?
[20:52] <dayo> hmm
[20:52] <dayo> hang on
[20:52] <Nitsuga> I have a new computer where i'm going to install Windows (games beat me :P) and some linux distribution, and I need a modern filesystem (Not a ten-years-old one like NTFS) which both system can access (I don't really need writing in windows, just reading). Some ideas?
[20:52] <snarkster> it continues telling me that it can not find my states DECI infomation
[20:53] <snarkster> nitsuga good luck
[20:53] <poke`> No idea about iptables? :/
[20:53] <maximumbob> camt: sorry I didn't see your message! This is a usb-attached touchscreen monitor. The system sees it as a usb mouse on /dev/input/js0
[20:53] <snarkster> man iptables
[20:54] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: best to not let Windows read your Linux partitions, unless they are only a data partiton to share between  the two
[20:54] <Nitsuga> snarkster, thank you
[20:54] <kyja> ok so please tell me how to create a new user account onto sql
[20:54] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  Nitsuga
[20:54] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, yes, only data partition
[20:54] <snarkster> mysql admin
[20:54] <brentv911> also is there a way to connect ubuntu to a windows domain
[20:54] <poke`> my problem is that my configuration blocks all connections (except for the implicitly allowed ones), so I cannot use apt-get or such if I keep the drop line in it.. http://pastebin.com/dbfd8f63
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: and the next Ubuntu  will be using Ext4 by default :)  which means people have to clean install for full support, but   reading that file system from Windows, I don't think can be done at the moment
[20:55] <sagredo> alright ubuntu gurus, my usb external hard drive worked a million times, I run the umount /media/culp (the default name ubuntu found), and now I cannot get it to reconnect. Help!
[20:55] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, las time i tried with that i coudn't use it
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: also  it's optional in 9.04
[20:55] <jthomas> hi all, how do i create a global command?
[20:55] <Nitsuga> it said that it only support 128-byte inode size or something like that
[20:55] <jthomas> e.g. i have a file called ./webtest.sh
[20:55] <kalaghan> how do I find the current color-depth? I remember there was some command ...bpp...?
[20:55] <jthomas> and i need a symlink that works across the shell
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: Ext3  data partition to share between the two that makes sense
[20:55] <kyja> thx snarkster. installing now :)
[20:55] <camt> maximumbob: okay, can you show me the output of ls -l /dev/input/by-id?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: and you can use Ext4 for the rest if you want
[20:55] <jthomas> i thought i need to create a symlink in /usr/bin
[20:55] <rohan> Nitsuga: i'd suggest fat, if it didn't have the 4gb limit. fat is the most compatible fs.
[20:55] <jthomas> but i don't think that worked
[20:56] <jrib> jthomas: use /usr/local/bin/
[20:56] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, yes, but the ext2fs driver for windows didn't worked for me
[20:56] <snarkster> if you want windows to read your partition and have linux read your partitions then youll have to use fat32 or ntfs
[20:56] <preto> sadsada
[20:56] <maximumbob> camt: http://pastebin.com/m3a2c323
[20:56] <sebsebseb> rohan Nitsuga  don't use Fat,  NTFS is better, and  Ubuntu can read and write to it no problem, as long as Windows shut it down properly
[20:56] <Clouse> So, anyone heard any news about ATI GPUs on 9.04?
[20:56] <Nitsuga> it said that the partition sould have been formated with a 128-byte inode size
[20:56] <snarkster> there is a module you can get for windows that allows reading ext3 partitons but no writing
[20:56] <sagredo> jthomas: # Alias definitions.
[20:56] <sagredo> # You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
[20:56] <sagredo> # ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
[20:56] <dayo> sagredo: try    mount /dev/yourExtHD_DeviceName /media/<yourMountPoint>    and then   sudo mount -a
[20:56] <Shinka> rohan; That's annoying, NetBeans just won't work without openJDK, i just reinstalled it and now it works fine.
[20:57] <maximumbob> camt: and there's very obvious output if I 'cat /dev/input/js0' when I use the touchscreen
[20:57] <snarkster> oh and the ext3 reading module is really really slow
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: well  you can use NTFS for the data partition then, but for Linux partitions it would be better to use Ext3 or Ext4 or some other Linux file system
[20:57] <sagredo> dayo: I get a bug
[20:57] <Shinka> rohan: even though sun is now supposed to be the default
[20:57] <dayo> sagredo: first remove the line u added in /etc/fstab
[20:57] <kalaghan> how do I find the current color-depth? I remember there was some command ...bpp...?
[20:57] <sagredo> dayo: k
[20:57] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, noway i'm using FAT, y will have HD movies there. And i want a modern fliesystem if it's possible
[20:57] <gletob> Anyone know how to get X working on a ATI 3D Rage IIc
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: yes I said not to use  Fat, and NTFS is modern for Windows
[20:58] <snarkster> ntfs modern. LOL
[20:58] <glitsj16> kalaghan: xrandr will output current resolution
[20:58] <pelle_k> hey, if i have any technical questions regarding libapt/apt-get/aptitude, where should i go?
[20:58] <sagredo> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[20:58] <m0r0n> What's an alternative for Amarok?
[20:58] <spree> FAT sucks. Really sucks.
[20:58] <jrib> kalaghan: xdpyinfo will tell you
[20:58] <m0r0n> spree: Why's that?
[20:58] <snarkster> yah it does.
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: Vista and I guess Windows 7 have  NTFS version  5  (if I have the numbers correc ),   but  that means gparted can't just resize or dataloss might happen,  and XP and 2000 have NTFS 4
[20:58] <Neros> can anyone here help me with Ubuntu 9.04 Persistent off a USB drive with Hirens Boot CD too?
[20:58] <snarkster> alternative for amarok? LOL
[20:58] <spree> FAT is prone to unrecoverable errors, takes up more space, does not retain security information, cannot be encrypted
[20:58] <sagredo> dayo: that's what running mount returns
[20:58] <maximumbob> camt: Just tried using 'event7' instead of 'js0' - no change
[20:58] <Shinka> Someone has an idea how to make Sun's Java work on Ubuntu ?
[20:58] <jthomas> sagredo: thanks, what's the format for bash_alises
[20:59] <dayo> sagredo: what do syslog and dmesg say?
[20:59] <spree> m0r0n Don't use FAT. or FAT32.
[20:59] <sebsebseb> NTFS is modern for Microsoft :D  they were going to have a later file system in Vista,  Windows FS or something, but that idea got scrapped
[20:59] <jrib> !java > Shinka
[20:59] <m0r0n> snarkster: I need something that doesn't suck pretty much
[20:59] <snarkster> shinka just install the deb file. sun-java6
[20:59] <spree> NTFS5 is modern for microsoft. NTFS4 is native to NT.
[20:59] <kalaghan> shinka: apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[20:59] <JohnGalt> ./whois johngalt
[20:59] <Shinka> Already done
[20:59] <m0r0n> spree: I'm usingFAT32 for my flash drive and I managed to get .9gb  extra.... somehow
[20:59] <matrix_> how do i run programs from terminal for wine
[20:59] <spree> yeah there is a new filesystem coming out called WinFS
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: Linux file systems are better than Windows file systems :)
[20:59] <camt> maximumbob: it seems that it sees the touchscreen as a joystick instead of a mouse, not sure what to do about that
[20:59] <jrib> !wine > matrix_
[20:59] <spree> but i don't know much about it yet
[21:00] <spree> Never use FAT.
[21:00] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, yes, i see
[21:00] <snarkster> im out
[21:00] <kalaghan> Shinka: then it works.
[21:00] <Clouse> fccf: My bad, finaly got it, I remember I had started to setup a root account but didn't finish it and also my lappy's CAPS Lock light doesn't come on any more.
[21:00] <Nitsuga> i thing i'm using ext4 for the data partition
[21:00] <maximumbob> camt: found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/adding-usb-joystick-as-2nd-x11-pointer-449434/
[21:00] <Nitsuga> cat windows > hell
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: why share data with Windows hmm, in fact why dual boot Windows?   with enough RAM you can virtual machine Windows,  it won't be that good for 3D gaming though or no good at all,  but other stuff it will be good
[21:00] <Shinka> kalaghan: No. I tried to make Netbeans work, but I can't run it unless openJDK is also installed.
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: well and you don't do CAD or something in a vm
[21:00] <sagredo> [56538.275232] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[21:00] <sagredo> [56538.275393] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[21:00] <sagredo> [57007.862001]  CIFS VFS: No username specified
[21:00] <sagredo> [57007.862013]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[21:00] <sagredo> [57287.864885] CIFS: UNC Path does not begin with // or \\
[21:00] <FloodBot3> sagredo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <sagredo> [57287.864896]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[21:00] <m0r0n> So what's a good music player, that gives lyrics also
[21:01] <sagredo> m0r0n: songbird or nothing
[21:01] <kalaghan> Shinka: that doesn't mean that the jdk doesn't work. it means you are not able to use it properly.
[21:01] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, because windows is for 3D games
[21:01] <jthomas> sagredo: what's the format for .bash_aliases?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: ok Windows is for 3D games, and  Linux distro is for your data  :)  problem solved
[21:01] <Shinka> kalaghan: Well then, does somebody know how to use it properly ?
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: in fact raelly you should have an external hard disk or something, and backup data there,  internal hard disks and such can just fail
[21:01] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, yes, i think
[21:02] <mercutio22> alright, I have two computers using the evolution email client, is it possible for them to share the same inbox in a way that every chance is shared, say if I mark a message as "to do", when I open evolution in the second pc the msg is labeled accordingly?
[21:02] <Clouse> fccf: Are you still there?
[21:02] <sagredo> jthomas: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89732.html
[21:02] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, i have all that data duplied in a notebook
[21:02] <Nitsuga> both PC and notebook has a 1TB disk
[21:02] <spree> Yeah, songbird is pretty cool if the plugins work
[21:02] <camt> maximumbob: have you installed any joystick related packages? i.e. xserver-xorg-input-joystick?
[21:02] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: only thing with Ubuntu is it's default Ext3 file system in  9.04,   with  Ext4 as the default in next version,   but also an optional file system for 9.04,  and already the default in distros such as Fedora 11
[21:02] <dayo> sagredo: have a look if this helps u: http://is.gd/1A3vE
[21:02] <pasteeater> is there a difference between using "bash script.sh" and "./script.sh"?
[21:02] <maximumbob> camt: I'll check
[21:02] <Nitsuga> sebsebseb, ok, problem solved
[21:02] <kalaghan> Shinka: you definitely don't get it running if you don't learn to describe error messages.
[21:03] <sagredo> dayo: reading
[21:03] <sebsebseb> Nitsuga: and people have to clean install,   to  get full Ext4 support, since the Ext3 to Ext4  conversion isn't  good enough
[21:03] <jrib> pasteeater: yes
[21:03] <m0r0n> sagredo: Songbird = looks exactly like iTunes, gross. But anyways does that give you the lyrics?
[21:03] <Nitsuga> "leave Windows with his ulgy and crappy filesystem
[21:03] <Clouse> fccf: run that comand and I got an xserver-xorg postinst waring
[21:03] <Nitsuga> xD
[21:03] <bastidrazor> m0r0n, rhythmbox also gives lyrics in a plugin.
[21:03] <Nitsuga> m0r0n, I like banshee
[21:03] <fccf> Clouse: would you pastebin that warning
[21:03] <maximumbob> camt: installing now
[21:03] <spree> lyrics don't do much for me, i listen to electronic music
[21:03] <Nitsuga> it isn't bloated (like songbird) and it's featurefull
[21:03] <glitsj16> m0r0n: plenty of options there ... try a search in synaptic and look around the project website for detaisl on features (i like MPD with a nice client like gmpc, very lightweight and performant)
[21:04] <Phil_Ewert> hello together, on my dell-notebook with an intel G945 graphics-processor running  jaunty,I  get an "(EE) intel(0): failed to set tiling on front buffer : rejected by kernel" and it boots in only 1024x768. I did an extensive search, but there are different such problems for different distros with different solutions. Can anybody suggest help ?
[21:04] <jrib> pasteeater: ./foo.sh executes the file.  If the file starts with #!/bin/bash, then bash will interpret it, but not otherwise.  On the other hand, « bash foo.sh » tells bash to interpret foo.sh.
[21:04] <abhi_> Hi, anyone using dell studio laptop ubuntu 9.04?
[21:04] <Clouse> fccf: Sorry what does pastebin mean?
[21:04] <Nitsuga> well, thak your sebsebseb, i have to go
[21:04] <Nitsuga> *thank you
[21:04] <sebsebseb> m0r0n  Nitsuaga,   I  like Banshee,  even though it's mono, and there is FUD about mono on the net
[21:04] <maximumbob> camt: done so
[21:04] <camt> maximumbob: there is also a package 'joystick' which includes some tools for joystick calibration
[21:04] <spree> Nitsuga To that, i remind you we're running Ubuntu here, not Slackware. lots of us are running our OS on beefed up workstations that can handle extra features.
[21:04] <Alan> Why isn't firefox 3.5 packaged as nicely as 3.0?  it seems to be making a right mess of the font rendering, using the wrong DPI and the wrong smoothing...
[21:04] <Shinka> kalaghan: I have no error message to describe, when I try to get NetBeans running it just won't run (unless openJDK is installed of course). And I can clearly see that all the packages for Sun Java are installed.
[21:05] <fccf> !paste | Clouse
[21:05] <pelle_k> hey, if i have any technical questions regarding libapt/apt-get/aptitude, where should i go?
[21:05] <mobi-sheep> Alan: Not security matter.  It'll be branded in Karmic.
[21:05] <Phil_Ewert> abhi_: I use an Dell Inspiron 640m with 9.04
[21:05] <spree> pelle_k Just ask the question.
[21:05] <m0r0n> sebsebseb: mono all the time? and what do you mean by " there is FUD about mono on the net" I can make it stereo?
[21:05] <jrib> pelle_k: we'll tell you to go somewhere else if it's not appropriate, don't worry :)
[21:05] <Nitsuga> spree, anyway, i like banshee
[21:05] <Alan> mobi-sheep: i see, so i'll need to wait several months for a ff 3.5 that doesn't look like crap, or do it myself? :(
[21:05] <camt> Alan: trying removing ~/.fonts.conf and restarting Firefox to fix the font smoothing
[21:05] <glitsj16> pelle_k: plenty of daily apt/aptitude (dpkg) users here, try your question i'd say
[21:06] <Nitsuga> and i hate bloated software
[21:06] <sebsebseb> m0r0n: some people think Mono is bad, because  it's  basically the open source version of  Microsoft .NET
[21:06] <mobi-sheep> Alan: It seems fine to me here. :o
[21:06] <jpds> sebsebseb: It isn't.
[21:06] <spree> m0r0n mono is a cross-platform, open-source .NET development framework.
[21:06] <Alan> mobi-sheep: are you using the default font smoothing and DPI?
[21:06] <sagredo> dayo: nothing
[21:06] <jpds> sebsebseb: And you believe everything on the interests? o_O
[21:06] <sebsebseb> jpds: of course not
[21:07] <mobi-sheep> Alan: I'll believe so.  I think default @ 96.
[21:07] <abhi_> Phil_Ewert, : is every work fine.. because i am facing problem with brightness buttons... It works intermettently.. can u please help me
[21:07] <sebsebseb> jpds: ,but I do like my Linux article and such reading,   Linux really is so much more than just Ubuntu :)
[21:07] <maximumbob> camt: 'jstest /dev/input/js0' worked great... but it still isn't inverted. Unless there's a 'jscal' option? checking...
[21:07] <abhi_> Phil_Ewert, : is everything work fine.. because i am facing problem with brightness buttons... It works intermettently.. can u please help me
[21:07] <Alan> mobi-sheep: ah, i use 75dpi with "best contrast" smoothing :(
[21:07] <jpds> sebsebseb: http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/07/06/the-ecma-c-and-cli-standards.aspx
[21:07] <m0r0n> sebsebseb: spree:  Ah, thanks and I'm running banshee right now, seems like something I can like eventually how do I get the lyrics plugin?
[21:07] <dayo> sagredo: well,that's all i've got on this, unfortunately :-(
[21:07] <Alan> camt: i don't have a ~/.fonts.conf
[21:07] <saschahl> maximumbob: the xserver-xorg-input-joystick package can invert
[21:07] <Phil_Ewert> Please again my question : on my dell-notebook with an intel G945 graphics-processor running jaunty,I get an "(EE) intel(0): failed to set tiling on front buffer : rejected by kernel" and it boots in only 1024x768. I did an extensive search, but there are different such problems for different distros with different solutions. Can anybody suggest help ?
[21:07] <pelle_k> Allright guys. Here we go. I'm trying to find out how to list *deliberately* installed packages. However, for some reason, packages that are installed as dependencies seem so be marked as "automatically installed: no". I'm just trying to find out the rationale/reason for that.
[21:07] <dayo> sagredo: maybe also ask in #linux
[21:07] <sagredo> dayo: thanks again dude
[21:08] <sebsebseb> wizzo50: your back?
[21:08] <maximumbob> saschahl: what command is associated with it?
[21:08] <dayo> sagredo: u're welcome. sorry i wasn't able to help.
[21:08] <Phil_Ewert> abhi_:  it works absolutely fine. Don't have clue , what could be a problem ;o(
[21:08] <lu6cifer> Synaptic says I have ncurses installed, but when I run a simple "Hello world" program, I get error messages...any help?
[21:08] <Nitsuga> pelle_k, if you installed it via synaptic or apt-get they don't get marked as installe das dependency
[21:08] <saschahl> maximumbob: read man joystick, you might need to add some configuration lines to your xorg.conf
[21:08] <camt> maximumbob: jscal looks to uave a -u option that might do that for you
[21:08] <jrib> pelle_k: were you here earlier asking about this?
[21:08] <Nitsuga> synaptic marks for synaptic, apt get marcks for apt get
[21:08] <jpds> spree: And Mono is not .NET, it's an implementation of the C# language.
[21:09] <jrib> !compile > lu6cifer
[21:09] <abhi_> Phil_Ewert, :which version of ubuntu are u using?
[21:09] <Nitsuga> one aptitude to rule them all ;)
[21:09] <jrib> lu6cifer: did you install the corresponding -dev packages?
[21:09] <markus___> Hello!
[21:09] <lu6cifer> jrib: yes
[21:09] <jrib> lu6cifer: pastebin
[21:09] <pelle_k> jrib, yes i was. still searching for an answer...
[21:09] <camt> maximumbob: but yeah man joystick looks like it has some info on editing xorg.conf as well
[21:09] <markus___> Does anyone here know if it's possible for any program in ubuntu to detect what's playing in Spotify running under Wine?
[21:09] <lu6cifer> jrib: what do you mean pastebin?
[21:09] <jrib> pelle_k: but I take it you do not like my earlier suggestion of just subtracting out the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop?
[21:09] <jrib> !pastebin | lu6cifer
[21:10] <Phil_Ewert> abhi_: 9.04 as I said. It should work fine, sry !
[21:10] <spree> jpds Fascinating, because I quoted verbatim the title of the mono project homepage. but hey, you being completely and totally wrong is no big deal.
[21:10] <mobi-sheep> Which filesystems makes more sense for pure data storage? (ie non-system).  ext2 or ext3?
[21:10] <maximumbob> camt: I'm checking that out... something like 'Option "MapAxis1" "mode=relative axis=-1x" or something
[21:10] <Clouse> fccf: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090716060132
[21:10] <erUSUL> mobi-sheep: ext3
[21:10] <pelle_k> Nitsuga, any reason for that behaviour? How *do* you install packages, and have the dependencies marked properly, as installed as "automatically"?
[21:10] <Markussss> Does anyone here know if it's possible for any program in ubuntu to detect what's playing in Spotify running under Wine?
[21:10] <Clouse> fccf: thats all it is
[21:10] <spree> jpds Please refrain from posting wrong information in the future though to encourage quality chat.
[21:10] <jdu> mobi-sheep, ext3 is safer because it journals
[21:10] <mobi-sheep> erUSUL: Why?  It's journaled -- Something not necessary?
[21:11] <fccf> Clouse: that's fine .. do that and reboot
[21:11] <jpds> spree: Sorry, was reading Wikipedia.
[21:11] <camt> maximumbob: ok, i think you're on the right track now.  the previous xorg.conf edits would have affected a mouse, not a joystick.
[21:11] <spree> jpds: There you go.
[21:11] <mobi-sheep> Well... ext2 = less read/write.  Hmmm.
[21:11] <abhi_> Phil_Ewert, : u are lucky. I am struggling to get my buttons to work seamlessly.
[21:11] <erUSUL> mobi-sheep: why you say journaling is not neccesary ? ext3 is better in other ways too?
[21:12] <maximumbob> camt: thanks for help
[21:12] <pasteeater> jrib: i see.  about what i thought.  thanks.
[21:12] <Klowny> i agree with you seb but windows is the standard
[21:12] <camt> camt: np, good luck with it
[21:12] <Clouse> fccf: I think it is just telling me that it detected a possible custom config  and overwrit is anyway but also backed it up
[21:12] <m0r0n> Can anyone tell me where to get the lyrics extension, I googled it without any result that helped
[21:12] <Klowny> woah i was scrolled way up there lol
[21:12] <spree> Klowny the standard what?
[21:12] <camt> maximumbob: typo there, good luck
[21:12] <Clouse> fccf: Roger that will do
[21:12] <mobi-sheep> erUSUL: Just figuring out... Well, if it's for data storage.  Would it need to be checked?  Probably not lot of benefits as there are no writing to it.  But yeah, I'll go with ext3.
[21:12] <Klowny> the standard as far as OS's go spree i was repsonding to someone that posted long long ago
[21:12] <Klowny> i thought it was recent lol
[21:13] <pelle_k> jrib, i've tried. it's a mess. i can't figure out where to begin. The problems seems to be the inconsistency, because some packages have it's dependencied marked correctly as automatically installed, while with some packages, they are not. I dont know whats causing this, and how to handle that if i'm iterating over ALL packages. Further more, meta-packages, tasks and virtual packages just makes it so much harder... :/
[21:13] <abhi_> is there any link from where i can download drivers for DELL STUDIO laptops...
[21:13] <LordNUniv> can someone help me install the real cdrtools package instead of the useless wodim package which doesn't work?
[21:13] <spree> Klowny windows is not the standard by any means. It's only the most popular. If you want standards, look at the Dept of Defense and their evals of the different operating systems.
[21:13] <AlanNeedsHelp> Anyone got any idea why, when I start Ubuntu (either from the Live CD, or from a full install) the desktop doesn't appear?  I just get a lot of corruption.  Everything seems to run okay, just no desktop!
[21:13] <Klowny> well spree what i mean is
[21:14] <jrib> pelle_k: can you give an example of a package that has pulled in deps and not had the deps marked as automatically installed?
[21:14] <Klowny> there isn't exactly gaming companies designing for linux lol
[21:14] <spree> Klowny just what do you mean?
[21:14] <spree> Klowny Wrong again
[21:14] <Klowny> spree how so?
[21:14] <eth01> .
[21:14] <pelle_k> jrib, brb, gonna find you a nice example...
[21:14] <Clouse> fccf: Wow still the same issue, damn I really thought that was going to work for a minite there
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> i can think of.. err... 1 game that came out with a linxu client recently.. (Savage 2)
[21:15] <LolzMan> ok i somethimes use ubuntu, default on laptop is vista, and i have 2gb ram, vista is sorta slow, so im thinking that its just the resource-hogging vista, so i used ubuntu and it is also very slow, what would be causing this?
[21:15] <notlistening> Hi, I am using the proprietry driver from ATI the lastest version I am using the proposed updates and keep getting kernel updates do i need to reinstall the driver over each kernel that i run as they seem to break compiz
[21:15] <Klowny> Dr_Willis: exactly my point, now how many windows lol
[21:15] <camt> the savage 2 people are releasing another game with a linux client, heroes of newerth
[21:16] <Klowny> i'm not saying windows is better
[21:16] <spree> Klowny http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming#Commercial_games  <-- Klowny, being misinformed doesn't mean that you are stupid, but please refrain from making false statements.
[21:16] <Klowny> but it's mainstream
[21:16] <StormAtRest> tell me a good FPS game
[21:16] <fccf> Clouse: try CTRL-ALT-F1
[21:16] <Klowny> it's not a false statement windows is mainstream for games
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> I have serverl comercial linux games from years past.. and.. sadly most of them dont work  on newer disrtos
[21:16] <Clouse> fccf: OK
[21:16] <StormAtRest> I wish, companies should start making games for Ubuntu.
[21:16] <erUSUL> notlistening: depends on how you installed the drivers ... did you used the ati installer or used System>Admin..>Hardware Drivers
[21:16] <bastidrazor> StormAtRest, quake.. open arena.
[21:17] <Klowny> storm it would be nice
[21:17] <m0r0n> Anyone know how to work Bashee well?
[21:17] <notlistening> erUSUL, -, ati installer
[21:17] <spree> Klowny Yes it is a false statement. Console is mainstream for games.
[21:17] <Clouse> fccf: Is there a comand that can whipe out all GPU settings and set them back to default?
[21:17] <fccf> Clouse: I trust you got to a terminal?
[21:17] <erUSUL> notlistening: then the reinstall everytime a new kernel is relesed is necesary afaik
[21:18] <spree> Klowny please refrain from continuing to make false statements based on opinion. Do some research and come back.
[21:18] <Clouse> fccf: Yes just going back there now
[21:18] <Klowny> spree no research is needed to see what pc games are being developed for and vast majority is for windows
[21:18] <Seven-7> I'm getting this strange error when I use APT-GET AUTOREMOVE: http://pastie.org/547269
[21:18] <notlistening> erUSUL, thanks that makes sense now thinking about it what a right royal pain but the fixes are worth it
[21:18] <Clouse> fccf: back in terminal as root
[21:18] <aboSamoor> Hi, guys where can I find a tutorial for booting over network on jaunty, I googled it but there are many websites with many ways, I am asking if you know any tested way ?
[21:18]  * Dr_Willis waits for the OT warnings to come in.
[21:19] <fccf> Clouse: first things first ... you need pastebinit.... sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:19] <jrib> Dr_Willis: you read my mind!
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> aboSamoor:  you mean seting up a Jaunty server to boot other machiens (to jaunty)
[21:19] <spree> Klowny You've changed your position 3 times now to reflect something you consider more true. Please take it to someplace more relevant like #politics
[21:19] <jrib> !ot | spree, Klowny
[21:19] <SidGBF> therea red-named link '.#CoacherTitle.php -> root@here.20547' how to remove it?
[21:20] <spree> Klowny yes, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> jrib:  that will show them.
[21:20] <aboSamoor> Dr_Willis, I want to install jaunty on other machines which don't have CD readers
[21:20] <spree> Klowny You are allowed to be wrong all you want in there.
[21:20] <Clouse> fccf: OK I'd better go out and get into netroot and plug a cable in, one moment
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> aboSamoor:  just installing should be doable.. (never done it however)  most of the sites im seeing are a little old.
[21:21] <fccf> Clouse: being connected is a prerequisite
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> !install | aboSamoor
[21:22] <notlistening> Is there a good guide for configuring ubuntu to run from  a SSD?
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> aboSamoor:  i just use flash-drive installers now a days
[21:22] <Clouse> fccf: :)
[21:23] <Seven-7> Anyone understand the error I'm getting? http://pastie.org/547269
[21:23] <BitWraith> would the "versatile" kernel work on ARM hardware, or just ARM Qemu? If so, which hardware specifically?
[21:23] <aboSamoor> Dr_Willis, it is much better do you know any way to add support to USB booting to the bios ?
[21:23] <LolzMan> does anyone have any idea why ubuntu would eb slow with 2gb ram?
[21:23] <Clouse> fccf: ok pastebinnt is installed
[21:24] <switch10__> LolzMan: do you have compiz and a bunch of other stuff running?
[21:24] <m0r0n> LolzMan: Maybe it's the processor? What do you have
[21:24] <fccf> Clouse: sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit -- and give me the url
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> aboSamoor:  if your pc cant boot a flash drive.. well...  not sur what you want to do then..  you cant boot from cd or usb?
[21:24] <amedeo_> i can't see videos on youtube with opera... can someone help me?
[21:24] <LolzMan> i have what every the default is and pretty much only ff
[21:24] <Curtis_B> would you consider a departure to be a time or a place
[21:25] <Clouse> Cool
[21:25] <Clouse> fccf: Cool
[21:25] <LolzMan> proc is an amd 64 athlon x2
[21:25] <fccf> Seven-7: run that with sudo
[21:26] <Seven-7> fccf: Uh, it's in root.
[21:26] <Seven-7> fccf: Do I really have to use SUDO inside root?
[21:26] <Clouse> fccf: I can't get the pipe key to work?
[21:27] <ikonia> Seven-7: in root ?
[21:27] <BitWraith> LolzMan, usually if linux seems slow the graphics driver is to blame. what graphics card?
[21:27] <fccf> Seven-7: whoops ... didn't see that right away ...
[21:27] <switch10__> LolzMan: that's plenty fast
[21:27] <bastidrazor> Clouse, you can do it with pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:27] <Scunizi> Curtis_B: verb
[21:28] <pelle_k> jrib, actually. i was wrong. sort of. new "Recommends", are installed as "automatically installed: no". I think i have to file a bug report about that. I seem to recall reading they did that so people could remove certain child packages without calling the dependency resolver to remove the package the got child installed.
[21:28] <fccf> Clouse: do what bastidrazor said
[21:28] <Clouse> bastidrazor: thanks
[21:28] <Clouse> fccf: sure
[21:28] <jrib> pelle_k: I see
[21:29] <khaled_> asdf
[21:29] <khaled_> hi everybody
[21:29] <danl> is there a way to unroll all the changes you've made to ubuntu?
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> danl:  not very esaially..
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> danl:  normally its not needed
[21:30] <danl> I have a vps that started at 500mb and now is over 1gb and I want to reset... but my vps host page is messed up and for some reason ubuntu 9.04 is not an option right now
[21:30] <cor> evenin
[21:30] <Clouse> fccf: pastebin.com/f7b87813a
[21:30] <yoga> I install firefox-3.5, but it's not,  it's Shiretoko Preview Browser, How do I install Fixfox verison 3.5?
[21:31] <hatter243> !firefox-3.5
[21:31] <maximumbob> camt: I've made some progress - it uses it like a joystick now. But there's some major 'drifting' and it won't uninvert. It was better before when it thought it was a mouse.
[21:32] <fccf> Clouse: as expected ... now I'll need the output of dmesg and lspci if you can muster it
[21:32] <tanner_> hi
[21:32] <Clouse> fccf: I sure can
[21:32] <tanner_> i have a question
[21:32] <Scunizi> yoga: Shiretoko is the code name for FF3.5  it's beta
[21:32] <fccf> !ask | tanner_
[21:33] <amedeo_> i can't see videos on youtube with opera... can someone help me?
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> seems to be some critical security bug in FF 3.5 also. :()  guess we will be gettting a 3.5.01 soon :)
[21:33] <tanner_> how do i connect my xubuntu 9.04 to wireless internet i have linksys wusb54gsc
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> if ya want to read about  it  (i just heard about it ) --> http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2009/07/14/critical-javascript-vulnerability-in-firefox-35/
[21:34] <L33Thaxor666> yo peepos
[21:34] <yoga> Scunizi: So the Shiretoko that I just installed is still beta?
[21:34] <tanner_> how do i connect my xubuntu 9.04 to wireless internet i have linksys wusb54gsc
[21:35] <tanner_> how do i connect my xubuntu 9.04 to wireless internet i have linksys wusb54gsc
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | tanner_
[21:35] <troubled> hey guys, your community manager, Jono Bacon, is just going live with Randal Schwartz for FLOSS Weekly at http://live.twit.tv/ to cover BZFlag today. Tune in for video, or use icecast to listen to the audio at twit.am/listen (winamp, vlc etc). enjoy!
[21:35] <cor> tanner_ it should happen automatically - check your router DHCP settings
[21:35] <tanner_> ty\
[21:35] <L33Thaxor666> install flash
[21:35] <ikonia> tanner_: please don't spam here
[21:35] <L33Thaxor666> maybe
[21:36] <ikonia> L33Thaxor666: pardon?
[21:36] <tanner_> ok i wont any more
[21:36] <ikonia> tanner_: sorry
[21:36] <maximumbob> camt: Aha.
[21:36] <ikonia> tanner_: that wasn't for you
[21:36] <camt> maximumbob: I like Ahas.
[21:36] <ikonia> troubled: please don't spam stuff like that
[21:36] <tanner_> oh lol
[21:36] <ikonia> tanner_: my apologies, I was talking to troubled
[21:36] <maximumbob> camt: bad aha, will explain:
[21:36] <L33Thaxor666> he said he cant see video
[21:37] <maximumbob> camt: It _is_ using it like a joystick. So if I click far away from the center, it 'moves' faster. But if I click near the center of the screen, it is still. Imagine where I click where you have angled and held the joystick.
[21:38] <arthurh> Is there an apt meta package of sorts that only installs security updates from the cli?
[21:38] <marc> msg nickserv marc emilyrz1
[21:38] <maximumbob> camt: you know, it might be the 'relative' option I used. Perhaps I need 'absolute'. There wasn't any explanation for that optipn in man joystick.
[21:38] <arthurh> or how would one go about just applying security updates to installed packages
[21:38] <Clouse> fccf: Sorry I don't know where dmesg is, is it also a .conf file?
[21:38] <ikonia> arthurh: they get offered to you out of the security repo
[21:38] <camt> maximumbob: that sounds like it's worth a shot. inversion works though?
[21:38] <amedeo_> on my opera i cant watch youtube videos, but i have the plug-in... what can i do?
[21:39] <arthurh> ikonia: so, just apply all updates available in the security repository by disabling other repos?
[21:39] <ikonia> arthurh: no,
[21:39] <racecar56> why does my power button seem to turn off the computer like i unplugged it?
[21:39] <maximumbob> camt: No
[21:39] <ikonia> arthurh: the security updates are part of the normal update process
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> Opera here also - dosent seem to play flash videos.. even tho it does say the plugin is installed.
[21:39] <maximumbob> camt: except in 'jstest' the numbers show the inversion, but not the result
[21:39] <cor> racecar56 you can set that in the power settings
[21:40] <racecar56> cor, ?
[21:40] <maximumbob> camt: some success! It no longer drifts - absolute was the answer to that. Now I just have to force the inversion.
[21:40] <fccf> Clouse type dmesg into term
[21:40] <cor> there's got to be a config for the power button event somewhere. Configure that.
[21:40] <arthurh> ikonia: but I ONLY want to install security updates to installed packages, and of course their dependencies -- but I don't want to upgrade any packages that exist for the sake of upgrading --
[21:41] <racecar56> cor, i looked at my power management thing and it says if i press power button, ask
[21:41] <ikonia> arthurh: that's not how it works, it only offers updates+security updates for installed packages
[21:41] <ikonia> arthurh: it won't update something you don't have installed
[21:41] <[keanu]> is there a known memory leak with vlc 1.0.0?
[21:41] <racecar56> cor, but i had that set and it still goes off like i unplugged it
[21:41] <cor> strange
[21:41] <racecar56> cor, it's a really old computer though
[21:42] <racecar56> cor, but in windoze at the day i used it the power button works fine
[21:42] <cor> perhaps your error logs have more details, maybe a driver issue. maybe your BIOS forces it.
[21:42] <cor> hmm.
[21:42] <[keanu]> i'm using vlc 1.0.0 from the PPAs, and it appears that it eats through all of my memory
[21:42] <Clouse> fccf: Yep did that and it came up and went by really fast
[21:42] <racecar56> cor, well, the bios dosen't seem to have an option O_o
[21:43] <fccf> Clouse: thats what I need to read
[21:43] <BitWraith> every time gdm starts I get a curses page with an Ok button taht says that an internal error occurred. Where can I find a more detailed description of this error? I looked in /var/log but I don't see anything relevant in Xorg's logs.
[21:43] <[keanu]> with firefox, xchat, terminal, vlc, pulseaudio volume control open, i ran a while loop to append the output of 'free' to a log every tenth of a second - at one point, both my 2.5GB of physical ram, and my 2GB of swap were wiped
[21:43] <Jlone_laptop> anyone know why my download rate seems realy slow?
[21:43] <Clouse> fssf: I figured that but I don't know what directory it lives in
[21:44] <unitxt> wow, Flash has totally broke Firefox on 9.04. Anyone know of a fix for this?
[21:44] <bastidrazor> BitWraith, possibly in ~/.xsession-errors
[21:44] <Jlone_laptop> only does it in ubuntu, if i boot into windows its fine
[21:44] <arthurh> ikonia: I understand that -- but let's say I have package A, version 1.  Package B, Version 1 both installed.  Package A was upgraded in the repo to version 2 for a feature standpoint, Package B has a security update to version 1.1 no more -- there's no way to just upgrade package B via some type of meta package or similar while ignoring package A that has only a new release for feature additions?
[21:44] <Clouse> fccf: I tryed to nano it but got nothing
[21:44] <ikonia> arthurh: versions don't get updated like that, it's bug fixes normally, and security updates
[21:44] <arthurh> wow, that was some load of crap that came out of my fingers -- but you get it
[21:44] <ikonia> arthurh: let ubuntu manage your updates
[21:44] <racecar56> cor, looked in dmesg but apparently i don't see anything bad
[21:45] <arthurh> ikonia yeah, during install of Ubuntu server I did choose to not have it apply updates and security updates automagically
[21:45] <fccf> Clouse: i'd have you pipe dmesg to pastebinit but you can't pipe can you?
[21:45] <arthurh> ikonia: I'm not sure that was the most wise choice
[21:45] <mzuverink> I have a Happaugh 850 USBWintv-hvr, but everything look for /dev/video0, I can even find when it register when I plug it in, any help out there?
[21:45] <ikonia> arthurh: let it apply updates - they are bug fixes, not major package updates
[21:45] <cor> racecar56, I still haven't manahged to get my Satellite to sleep or hibernate in the Jaunty, so I'm not really the man to ask!
[21:45] <racecar56> cor, hey, i looked again and i see something....
[21:45] <cor> hit me!
[21:46] <Clouse> fccf: I will try again
[21:46] <racecar56> cor, "The chipset may have PM-Timer Bug. Due to workarounds for a bug, this clock source is slow. If you are sure your timer does not have this bug, please use "acpi_pm_good" to disable the workaround"
[21:46] <cor> interesting
[21:46] <racecar56> cor, i don't know if this would do it but it looks funny
[21:46] <Clouse> fccf: that it so wired the pipe key just wont work
[21:47] <BitWraith> I took another look in /var/log and I found the error, although I'm sure sure how to correct it.
[21:47] <racecar56> cor, i guess i should add acpi_pm_good to some file?
[21:47] <arthurh> ikonia: thanks for the insight
[21:48] <BitWraith> "Saw signal 11: Server aborting."
[21:48] <racecar56> cor, "HPET not enabled in BIOS. You might try hpet=force boot option"
[21:48] <cor> isn't it a flag?
[21:48] <racecar56> cor, interesting... hmmmm
[21:49] <L33Thaxor666> dude how do tell if your running in 64bits?
[21:49] <racecar56> L33Thaxor666, uname -a
[21:49] <cor> i.e. add to your boot command. don't quote me on that - I'm only going by what you tell me!
[21:49] <racecar56> L33Thaxor666, if you see "x86_64" you're on 64bit
[21:49] <fccf> Clouse: how bout pasting a pipe?
[21:49] <cor> in 64 bits, I like that
[21:49] <guntbert> Clouse: if you pipe key doesn't work you still can type "command > some.file, and the pastebin that file
[21:49] <racecar56> cor, i guess that would be in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:50] <guntbert> Clouse: without the " :-)
[21:50] <mzuverink> How do you make a hard link?
[21:50] <L33Thaxor666> i dont see it...
[21:50] <L33Thaxor666> i686
[21:50] <fccf> Clouse ... dmesg > dmesg.test   ... then pastebinit dmesg.test
[21:50] <_gpg_> hello
[21:50] <L33Thaxor666> that means i install 32 bits right?
[21:50] <cor> man ln
[21:50] <L33Thaxor666> ed
[21:51] <mzuverink> man ln
[21:51] <mzuverink> thanks
[21:51] <cor> np
[21:51] <markw_> anyone loose their "wrapped-passphrase" encrypted private home directory on an upgrade?
[21:51] <_gpg_> I would like to know if some one has already made a lie ubuntu CD (or a qemu) with an LTTNG preinstalled
[21:51] <th0r> markl_: why...did you find one?
[21:51] <Clouse> fccf: Of course save the output fist and then pastebin it, one moment
[21:52] <racecar56> Clouse, or pastebinit (haha)
[21:52] <crom09> hello, i've got some audio problems, can someone help me?
[21:52] <markw_> th0r: no, have a broken login.  apparently it won't decrypt the ecryptfs for a user.
[21:52] <racecar56> crom09, k
[21:52] <racecar56> crom09, what seems to be wrong
[21:52] <crom09> it's with the mic
[21:52] <racecar56> crom09, k
[21:53] <crom09> it seems to work, that is if i talk i hear myself on the speakers
[21:53] <crom09> however, i can't record or use voice chat
[21:53] <markw_> th0r: so if they login, their "desktop" hangs.  It's got a passphrase error in the logs.
[21:53] <racecar56> crom09, i have a similar problem
[21:53] <jwfoxjr> does anyone know if icecast can multiplex muliple incoming streams? I have 3 incoming streams that I want to output as one
[21:53] <tanner_> im having troble with my wireless internet any 1 able to go step by step with me?
[21:53] <racecar56> crom09, any audio that happens to be playing when i record, it records that even if i don't have speakers hooked up O_o
[21:53] <ikonia> tanner_: follow the guide posted to you
[21:53] <ikonia> !wirless
[21:53] <ikonia> !wireless
[21:54] <crom09> racecar56, well, that's a step better than me
[21:54] <Clouse> guntbert: thanks also
[21:54] <racecar56> crom09, k
[21:54] <tanner_> iit did not help me
[21:54] <crom09> racecar56, at least you can record domething
[21:54] <racecar56> crom09, no i cant
[21:54] <th0r> markw_: I never trusted that encfs...always use truecrypt instead. It doesn't encrypt the home directory, but it will keep everying inside safe
[21:54] <racecar56> crom09, if i don't have audio playing it don't record anything
[21:54] <guntbert> Clouse: np :-)
[21:55] <racecar56> crom09, if audio is playing even with no speakers, it records it
[21:55] <FairFight> Hey, im trying to get libapache-mod-perl but i get this message when trying to apt-get install it: Package libapache-mod-perl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:55] <markw_> th0r: I do the whole disk.
[21:55] <FairFight> what can i do?
[21:55] <L33Thaxor666> after all this im going to have to reinstall
[21:55] <crom09> racecar56, so you say if you play an mp3 and start recording you record the music?
[21:55] <guntbert> msg ubottu info libapache-mod-perl
[21:55] <racecar56> crom09, no
[21:55] <L33Thaxor666> im running i686 on an multicore
[21:56] <markw_> th0r: but 9.04 asks if you want to "encrypt" so he encrypted, now it won't let him decrypt.
[21:56] <rudi> does anyone know how to get compiz working again in 9.04 if you have intel integrated graphics
[21:56] <racecar56> crom09, i using audacity, for example, i am recording on another track to existing ogg audio
[21:56] <rudi> back when i was on feisty it worked great
[21:56] <racecar56> crom09, then the dumb thing records what plays
[21:56] <guntbert> !info libapache2-mod-perl2 | FairFight
[21:57] <L33Thaxor666> u guys are going to have to show me all about xorg again in a few weeks
[21:57] <racecar56> FairFight, apt-cache search libapache-mod-perl
[21:57] <racecar56> FairFight, that could help
[21:57] <racecar56> FairFight, wait nvm
[21:57] <crom09> racecar56, so any advice for me?
[21:57] <racecar56> crom09, i don't really know
[21:57] <gastaufdemast> hi @ll
[21:57] <racecar56> crom09, try the back mic port?
[21:57] <racecar56> crom09, the front ports i find unreliable
[21:57] <FairFight> oh, thanks guntbert
[21:58] <Clouse> fccf: OK finerly, f5220f315
[21:58] <rudi> does anyone know how to get compiz working again in 9.04 if you have intel integrated graphics
[21:58] <guntbert> FairFight: np :-)
[21:58] <guntbert> !welcome | gastaufdemast
[21:58] <crom09> racecar56, !!
[21:58] <amaretto4u> hi
[21:59] <maximumbob> camt: it seems to pick and choose the arguments I give it. :-/ There is a difference between "relative" and "absolute", and if I use "xz" and "xy" instead of "x" and "y". But I even swapped x and y to no effect! :-/
[21:59] <crom09> racecar56, no i don't hear myself but i can record
[21:59] <racecar56> crom09, k
[21:59] <amaretto4u> can someone help me to install GRUB from flasg drive?
[21:59] <guntbert> maximumbob: wrong channel? :-)
[21:59] <fccf> Clouse: still need lspci ... same process
[22:00] <crom09> racecar56, well this awkward but, well, if it works...
[22:00] <crom09> racecar56, thx
[22:00] <maximumbob> guntbert: no - we've been discussing it. Pointing devices on ubuntu.
[22:00] <Irreduc_iPod> #math please
[22:00] <racecar56> crom09, k
[22:00] <maximumbob> Hah I see how that can be perceived as a math thing :P. Configuring X to use a touchscreen that thinks it's a joystick as a mouse.
[22:00] <Clouse> fccf: And lspci; f46ae3daf
[22:00] <guntbert> maximumbob: sorry then, didn't see that :-)
[22:01] <maximumbob> guntbert: you can help if you want :p
[22:01] <maximumbob> thanks for volunteering
[22:01] <guntbert> maximumbob: what do you need?
[22:01] <maximumbob> guntbert: I have a touchscreen that works out of the box as a mouse in ubuntu.... but both the X and Y axes are invertex. Bottom left maps to top right actual.
[22:02] <maximumbob> guntbert: So I've been configuring it in xorg.conf but it seems to ignore the options that invert the axes
[22:02] <jozpalazn> Hi. Sometimes with an MP3 player or other USB 2.0 device, things transfer really fast for a little bit, and then it slows down _a lot_. Why does this happen? It happens in either direction, copying from or to device.
[22:03] <Guest82874> On my current network I can do only limited internet stuff like pings and IRC but, no apt-gets or browsing. Any idea as to what would cause this?
[22:03] <skellington> hey guys. i love ubuntu but i have a serious problem with it. why cant i connect to wifi? whenever i type in the pass for wpa router, it just spits the hex back out at me. i dont like to bring up other distros, but moblin had wifi working out of the box. ive tried everything, and i dont know what to do. any ideas?
[22:03] <guntbert> maximumbob: oh ... sorry, I seldom needed to touch xorg.conf since I use ubuntu - and never with a touchscreen - so no ideas :-(
[22:04] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - have u tried to start a ubuntu live-cd to find out if it works out-of-the-box?
[22:04] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: This is a brand new ubuntu install and it was inverted, and it's also inverted on 2 windows systems I've tried
[22:04] <maximumbob> I'll paste my xorg.conf
[22:05] <richdf> Hi! I'm after some assistance for removing an error message which appears every time I login. I'm running Jaunty. Error is "CPU frequency scaling unsupported".
[22:05] <racecar56> richdf, im a bios tweaker and i get that all the time
[22:05] <racecar56> richdf, see if resetting the bios options helps
[22:05] <fccf> Clouse: you are running jaunty right?
[22:05] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - sorry, never had a touch screen, but maybe a hardware problem?
[22:05] <cor> arg
[22:05] <Slart> richdf: cpu frequency scaling is when your processor is downclocked when there's nothing to do.. a power saving mechanism.. not sure why it isn't supported though.. what processor are you using?
[22:05] <Clouse> fccf: Yes
[22:06] <Hreno> hey, is there a way to split one partition into more without GParted? I've defraged already, using win xp
[22:06] <markw_> th0was:
[22:06] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: I have two of these touchscreens and have the exact same issue
[22:06] <markw_> Ok, it looks like a bug with the password changing utility.
[22:06] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: http://pastebin.com/m43bbbdc5 if it's enlightening at all
[22:06] <Slart> Hreno: I don't think any app can "split" partitions.. shrink and create a new one though... that might work
[22:06] <Hreno> Slart, that's what I want, yeah
[22:06] <kevin34> ciao
[22:06] <markw_> he changed his password and the wrapper for his ecryptfs didn't get updated to the new password.
[22:06] <Clouse> fccf: But after I get through this I am going back to 8.1 so I can have some openGL goodness
[22:06] <SnakDoc> is there a defrag app for ubuntu ?
[22:07] <Slart> Hreno: you can use fdisk, gparted, parted or any number of those kinds of apps
[22:07] <kevin34> ditemi che ci sono italiani :)
[22:07] <fccf> Clouse: from what I can tell your card is supprted by the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd driver ... of course you would also need fglrx and perhaps some others ... I hope this helps
[22:07] <kevin34> che spettacolo....
[22:07] <Slart> SnakDoc: nope.. not for ext2/3 at least
[22:07] <Hreno> Slart, yeah, but I think I have to use a CD for that. is there possibly to do that inside of win xp?
[22:07] <Slart> SnakDoc: but as long as you keep at least 20% free space on the drive fragmentation shouldn't be a problem
[22:07] <SnakDoc> Slart was wanting it for external has ntfs on it
[22:07] <LolzMan> sorry bout, loss the connection
[22:08] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - have u tried to turn -x and -y to x and y ?
[22:08] <Slart> Hreno: you would have to ask in a windows channel about that.. try ##windows
[22:08] <LolzMan> BitWraith: the graphics card is an ati radeon.
[22:08] <Slart> SnakDoc: nope.. nothing to defrag ntfs volumes in linux
[22:08] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:08] <Hreno> Slart, kk, just thought if someone new here
[22:08] <richdf> Hi Slart & racecar56, it only started after I added CPU Freq Scaling Mon to Panel (in attempt to monitor cpu use - my mistake!!) removed from panel but error keeps returning on login. any ideas which config files to check? cpu info to folow next
[22:08] <Slart> Hreno: no worries
[22:08] <Hreno> knew*
[22:09] <Slart> richdf: don't paste it to the channel
[22:09] <SnakDoc> slart ok just will have to take in other room to do every so often :P lol
[22:09] <Guest82874> On my current network I can do only limited internet stuff like pings and IRC but, no apt-gets or browsing. Any idea as to what would cause this?
[22:09] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: I've tried every combination you can imagine... + and -, even swapped and used both letters at a time. Added a number. Nothing changes anything. Though changing 'absolute' to 'relative' makes a difference so I know the configuration has some effect.
[22:09] <Slart> richdf: use a pastebin
[22:09] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:09] <LolzMan> is that what is causing the problem
[22:09] <Slart> richdf: no idea really..
[22:09] <LolzMan> it has updated drivers
[22:09] <Clouse> fccf: Yes it does very much, thankyou very much once again, is there a sire you can direct me to with a bit more info or maybe even a bit step by step acction, sorry but I am stil a liunx newbe
[22:09] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:09] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Something must be blocking HTTP connections / port 80?
[22:09] <richdf> slart, pastebin? please advise (sorry for ignorance)
[22:09] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:09] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:09] <Slart> !pastebin | richdf
[22:09] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:09] <tanner_> i need help with my wirless network i have linksys card will anyone go threw step by step?
[22:09] <FloodBot3> tanner_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <alteregoa> dashslot comments are closed
[22:10] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - also tried to delete the "-"
[22:10] <Slart> tanner_: way to make sure *everyone* will ignore you
[22:10] <alteregoa> i think tanner has a repeated retard problem
[22:10] <firecrotch> could be a buggy client, you know...
[22:11] <richdf> thanks, I'll get back shortly
[22:11] <r4ban> hello everyone, my FF 3.5 just crashes and dissappears for no reason, how do i go about in troubleshooting this?
[22:11] <dewman> or has never took the time to read the rules......
[22:11] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: I just realized that now when I hover the mouse over a scrollbar it scrolls up! no matter what.
[22:11] <Guest82874> firecrotch: Thats what I thought but, wouldnt "ping google.com" use port 80 at least for the DNS lookup?
[22:11] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Nope, DNS uses a different port
[22:11] <tanner_> i need help step by step with my wireless card for xubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)
[22:11] <fccf> Clouse: try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170212 or here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467247
[22:11] <dewman> I always ping google...... ;-)
[22:11] <firecrotch> Guest82874: udp 53 for DNS :)
[22:12] <tanner_> i need help step by step with my wireless card for xubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)  will anyone help me???
[22:12] <Guest82874> dewman: I am trying to break that habit and ping cnn.com since its shorter
[22:12] <firecrotch> !ask > tanner_
[22:12] <Slart> tanner_: if you keep spamming the channel you will get kicked out of here
[22:12] <Guest82874> firecrotch: does "apt-get" use port 80?
[22:12] <Slart> tanner_: if you don't get an answer just repeat your question.. BUT wait at least 15 minutes before repeating it.. at least 15 minutes
[22:12] <guntbert> maximumbob: in some forum I found the line  Option "MapAxis2" "mode=absolute deadzone=0 axis=-1y" - did you try that too?
[22:13] <tanner_> ok
[22:13] <richdf> cpu info in pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/219296/
[22:13] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Yes, it uses standard HTTP connections on port 80, as far as I know
[22:13] <maximumbob> guntbert: I'll try re-adding the deadzone spec
[22:13] <Slart> richdf: hmm.. Celerons should support frequency scaling... odd
[22:14] <Guest82874> firecrotch: How do I test this? I suppose I need one more port 80 thing and another non-port 80 thing
[22:14] <guntbert> maximumbob: I was looking at "=-1y" instead of "=-y"
[22:14] <Slart> richdf: I'm not really sure how to troubleshoot this one.. frequency scaling usually "just works" for me.. perhaps someone else has an idea
[22:14] <FairFight> Can anyone help me? I've found a script on the internet http://pastebin.com/d6d6ea8b9 and i've installed libapache2-mod-perl2 - but now it gives this error: http://pastebin.com/d24c0fa02
[22:14] <rootlinuxusr> Why would a machine with ubuntu server installed report in 'ifconfig
[22:14] <gastaufdemast> guntbert / maximumbob - why does it have to be "=-y" instead of "=y" ???
[22:15] <rootlinuxusr> Why would a machine with ubuntu server installed report in 'ifconfig' that it has an IP address - but not be able to ping anything other than localhost?
[22:15] <Guest82874> How do I find out if a port (specifically port 80) is blocked?
[22:15] <Slart> rootlinuxusr: routing problems perhaps.. you can see the routing settings if you type "route" in a terminal
[22:15] <maximumbob> gstaufdemast: I need to _invert_ the axis. setting as just =y would be the same as the touchscreen reported
[22:15] <r4ban> does anyone know where i can find firefox's error messages? sort of like window$ minidumps
[22:15] <SnakDoc> rootlinuxusr the ip info correct ?
[22:16] <Slart> r4ban: try running it from a terminal.. not sure if firefox keeps logs somewhere
[22:16] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Is this on a network at work or something?
[22:16] <maximumbob> gstaufdemart, guntbert: Well I was able to get rid of the autoscrolling by setting the third axis to none instead of defaulting it. (It is the pressure and by default is mapped to the scrollwheel)
[22:16] <guntbert> gastaufdemast: no idea :-), I supposed it has to do with reverting up/down but you might have a very good point there - maximumbob don't you think?
[22:16] <dunks> rootlinuxusr: gateway set correctly?
[22:16] <Guest82874> firecrotch: In my win2k3 net admin class
[22:16] <richdf> slart: Thanks, I had assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that it it was not supported. Now that you have suggested that it might/should work, I'll dig around & try suggestions from other forums - sick of laptop getting damn hot!!
[22:16] <r4ban> thank Slart ibarfast
[22:17] <Guest82874> firecrotch: college not HS
[22:17] <rootlinuxusr> Self assigned via 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101'. Why would the route be wrong this computer is on the same network setup? Gateway is setup correctly.
[22:17] <celsin> hello
[22:17] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Ask the instructor?
[22:17] <Slart> richdf: hehe.. understandable.. you might want to check in synaptic.. there are some tools for frequency scaling you can install
[22:17] <maximumbob> gstaufdemart, guntbert: the '-' is part of the joystick docs... you have axis=(-|+)(0-9)*(x|y)
[22:17] <celsin> I have a problem
[22:17] <maximumbob> gstaufdemart, guntbert: in fact the number can be a decimal
[22:17] <Slart> r4ban: you're welcome (yes.. Douglas Adams ruined my childhood) =)
[22:17] <fccf> !ask | celsin
[22:17] <celsin> i am spanish, my english is a bit bad
[22:17] <firecrotch> Guest82874: It sounds like you might have to authenticate with some kind of proxy or something.
[22:17] <Guest82874> firecrotch: ATM it is lecture time but, during break a few min ago I told him
[22:17] <celsin> sorry
[22:17] <richdf> does anyone have any suggestions for viewing cpu (%) in panel? Thanks
[22:17] <erUSUL> !es | celsin
[22:17] <Slart> !es | celsin
[22:18] <iceroot> how to block access from a ip for apache WITHOUT iptables?
[22:18] <Wicked> !firefox
[22:18] <iceroot> and without ufw
[22:18] <Guest82874> firecrotch: How would I confirm this?
[22:18] <rootlinuxusr> It says unknown host www.google.com or unknown host 192.168.1.x
[22:18] <fretegi_part_3> hey guys
[22:18] <unop> iceroot, see /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny
[22:18] <guntbert> maximumbob: ok, as I have really no experience in this field I#ll keep quiet from now on :-))
[22:18] <fretegi_part_3> how can i see if i have java, and if so what version i have?
[22:18] <Slart> celsin: but you're welcome to stay here too.. I think few people in here have english as their mother tounge
[22:18] <Slart> *tongue
[22:18] <iceroot> unop: this is also for apache? i thought its only for ssh
[22:19] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Try this: wget http://www.google.com   then open the file that it saves - it should give you whatever the actual error code you're getting is, if you're getting something other than a timeout
[22:19] <maximumbob> guntbert: I guess the most infuriating issue here is that it uses SOME of my options but not the ones that really matter!. Thanks for the help though.
[22:19] <unop> iceroot, oh no, it's for all TCP (and UDP?)
[22:19] <iceroot> unop: very nice, thx
[22:19] <jerbear> I have an encrypted root filesystem (done with the installer). Is there anywhere that I can put a keyfile so that I don't have to type in a password at boot? I realize this is a security risk, but it is temporary.
[22:19] <Zabadda> hi everyone, i have an installing problem on the latest ubuntu, i get to the boot menu but then i get this error http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q122/zabadda/13072009308.jpg
[22:19] <Mike94287> For some reason Skype isn't working correctly for me. After about five minutes into running it, it freezes up and I am forced to force quit it. When I try to restart it I get an error and the only way to fix that is to delete the .Skype folder in my home directory.
[22:19] <celsin> i was installed ubuntu 9.04 but my wifi doesn't run, the wep key doesn't connect
[22:19] <celsin> the wep key connect in windows but in linux no
[22:20] <Slart> Mike94287: I'd say that is the normal way for Skype to work =)
[22:20] <firecrotch> Zabadda: You've got a bad CD, reburn at a lower speed
[22:20] <Zabadda> i tried 3 CDs and a USB key
[22:20] <Guest82874> firecrotch: it stops when it gets to "Connecting to www.google.com|Some sort of IP|:80..."
[22:20] <celsin> the web  key is a hexadecimal 128bits
[22:20] <firecrotch> Zabadda: also make sure that your download of the ISO was good - i.e. check the md5sum of the file
[22:21] <guntbert> !md5sum | Zabadda (a lower speed will not necessarily help)
[22:21] <JuJuBee> What port number is fish:// using ?
[22:21] <firecrotch> Guest82874: You probably have to be authenticated to the school's domain or something
[22:21] <celsin> helpme!! please
[22:21] <iceroot> unop: if the attacker is shown with a domain in apache-logs. is it ok to put his ip-adress in /etc/hosts.deny  so is ubuntu resolving the domain to an ip or must i use the domain the attacker is using?
[22:21] <Slart> celsin: can't help you with that, sorry.. you can type !wifi here in the channel to get some information from the bot about wireless things..
[22:21] <Guest82874> firecrotch: I have used my laptop here many times with very few problems
[22:21] <celsin> !wifi
[22:22] <kalcifur> got a question, i have a usb floppy drive i would like to mount and use, i plugged it in, what do i need to do to actually mount it and use it? i thought something like mount /media/floppy0 but i have no idea where the device file is anyone have any idea?
[22:22] <Slart> celsin: and try to avoid adding "Help me!" "pretty pretty please" and so on.. it just makes the channel hard to read
[22:22] <zlatko> hi
[22:22] <unop> iceroot, well, the address of a domain could change, could it not? best to use the domain name where you can
[22:22] <lianimator> I installed gcc-3.4 (I have 4.3.2 also). but in 3.4, it says I don't have C++ compiler. but I have cpp-3.4 installed.
[22:22] <Mike94287> Slart: It used to work normally but then this started happening a few months ago and up until now I just stopped using Skype however I want to start using it again.
[22:22] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Without authenticating at all?
[22:22] <Guest96213> does anyone know how to unzip  a  .zip file from the terminal ?
[22:22] <leaf-sheep> Guest96213: unzip lol.zip
[22:23] <firecrotch> Guest96213: unzip file.zip
[22:23] <celsin> Slart, i don't compraind very well the english sorry
[22:23] <Guest96213> oh
[22:23] <Guest96213> hahaha
[22:23] <Guest96213> pretty simple then
[22:23] <Guest96213> cheers
[22:23] <iceroot> unop: domainname = containing ip static.88-198-3-10.clients.your-server.de
[22:23] <FloodBot3> Guest96213: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <Slart> Mike94287: I just spent the afternoon fighting with Skype.. it now just refuses to use my microphone for sound input.. I've basically given up on Skype.. I'm just waiting for them to release a new version
[22:23] <maximumbob> linanimator: cpp is a c preprocessor, g++ is the gnu c++ compiler.
[22:23] <iceroot> unop: also http://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_88.198.3.10
[22:23] <Slart> celsin: no worries. I understood your question. I don't know the answer though
[22:23] <Guest96213> sorry im new to this
[22:23] <Mike94287> Slart: Do you know when that is and where I can get the current latest version?
[22:24] <Guest82874> firecrotch: IDK I would just click firefox and thats all
[22:24] <Slart> Mike94287: they have a linux version on their site.. but it's getting kind of old now.. I have no idea when they are going to release a new one
[22:25] <zlatko> anyone can help abut using different desktops (w/ different icons on each desktop & different wallpapers etc.) in Ubuntu 9.04
[22:25] <intel> hi all
[22:25] <unop> iceroot, well, use both then, no?
[22:25] <Mike94287> Slart: Yeah the last time I saw it, it said 8.04. Well thanks anyway.
[22:25] <firecrotch> Guest82874: Should you be... you know... messing with win2k3 in your win2k3 class? lol
[22:25] <transMIssion> Hallo.
[22:25] <iceroot> unop: yeah, best idea :)
[22:25] <pehden> sweet
[22:25] <jerbear> I have an encrypted root filesystem (done with the installer). Is there anywhere that I can put a keyfile so that I don't have to type in a password at boot? I realize this is a security risk, but it is temporary.
[22:25] <transMIssion> i send my hdd to standby with hdparm but they always wake up after a minute. WHY?
[22:25] <maximumbob> lianimator: cpp is a c preprocessor, g++ is the gnu c++ compiler.
[22:26] <pehden> anyone know how to install jwm from barebones ubuntu
[22:26] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579155&page=3  - something about MaxX and MaxY maybe?
[22:26] <intel> how to change dns i want to use opendns
[22:26] <doobiedoo42> what free RPG or MMORPG games can i play with ubuntu?
[22:26] <intel> war3
[22:27] <transMIssion> man my hdd alyway spins up for a mintue and then down again...
[22:27] <doobiedoo42> war3?
[22:27] <intel> yeah
[22:27] <leaf-sheep> jerbear: LET ME GOOGLE IT FOR YOU.  BRB.
[22:27] <leaf-sheep> jerbear: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3#encrypting%20with%20keyfiles :)
[22:27] <elena09> Do you happen to know if the bug related to excessive heat versus excessive parking of the hard disk in laptops has been solved in Ubuntu 9.04 or newer?
[22:27] <doobiedoo42> anything besides warcraft
[22:28] <pehden> anyone know how to install jwm from barebones ubuntu
[22:28] <transMIssion> doobiedoo42: warcraft works (with wine)
[22:28] <CatEater> i'm running vbox on windows and i have ubuntu 9.04 in the guest machine, and i can't get it to run at 1024x600 fullscreen, but i installed the vbox additions package, what next?
[22:29] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - have u seen this:  http://www.elotouch.com/files/install/elo_linux_usb_driver_v3.1_installation_instructions.txt
[22:29] <sebsebseb> CatEater: Windows as host hmm, better the other way round :)   unless your 3D Wndows  gaming or some such
[22:29] <doobiedoo42> any other rpg games besides warcraft that work with ubuntu?
[22:30] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: From that first link I found this [1]. And I did see that, but it mixes some GPL and non GPL stuff which Ubuntu forbids since 8.04. [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EloTouchScreen
[22:30] <Out_Cold> doobiedoo42, a quick search will show you a handful of open source rpgs
[22:30] <CatEater> sebsebseb: laptop has funny drivers, and i haven't switched from windows yet, so i have to do a windows host :(
[22:30] <aboSamoor> I am trying to start a dhcp server and I get this error "Not configured to listen on any interfaces!" ?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> CatEater: you could dual boot, have you tried doing that on there?
[22:30] <CatEater> boot?
[22:30] <lianimator> maximumbob: thanks for the tip! I guess g++-3.4 is no longer in the repo. "has no install candidate"
[22:30] <sebsebseb> CatEater: funny drivers?
[22:31] <CatEater> i haven't booted this machine in 2 months
[22:31] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  CatEater
[22:31] <CatEater> i just hibernate, i have all the stuff i was running
[22:31] <rootlinuxusr> Is there anyway I can set the IP, netmask, and gateway from terminal?
[22:31] <pehden> anyone know how to install jwm from barebones ubuntu :((
[22:31] <Out_Cold> rootlinuxusr, man ifconfig
[22:31] <CatEater> if i have to shut down my host machine, i won't do the procedure
[22:32] <Out_Cold> laundry time..
[22:32] <transMIssion> doobiedoo42: well google "free rpg linux" or search synaptics
[22:32] <Guest82874> firecrotch: Yes, I would be but, I dont feel like triple booting my laptop so that means I need vmplayer
[22:33] <mac9416> Hello, what can I use to convert a pdf to a png?
[22:34] <pehden> wow must be noobs in here
[22:34] <gangsterlicious> n00bs
[22:34] <fretegi_part_3> omewhere
[22:34] <pehden> i installed jwm but it wont loaD
[22:34] <wad> When I use CTL-ALT-L to lock my computer, my screen saver launches. When I tap the space bar, the screen saver pauses for between 55 and 62 seconds, before offering my a place to enter my password to unlock the machine. Any of you folks seen this behavior?
[22:34] <fretegi_part_3> hey we all start somewhere
[22:34] <zlatko> please help regarding using different desktops (w/ different icons on each desktop & different wallpapers etc.) in Ubuntu 9.04
[22:34] <olinuxx> yop
[22:35] <mac9416> wad, never seen that. Have you filed a bug?
[22:35] <guntbert> !noob | gangsterlicious: neither
[22:35] <firecrotch> pehden: how did you install it?  Did you add an entry for it to /usr/share/xsession ?
[22:35] <wad> mac9416: Nope. So far I've just been annoyed. :)
[22:36] <pehden> that would be what i need to do now
[22:36] <fretegi_part_3> how do i see a list of software like java, that is installed?
[22:36] <wad> It only happens when I use one of the fancy screensavers, so I think it must be related to my video driver. *shrug*
[22:36] <firecrotch> pehden: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174188  It's old but I don't see why it wouldn't work
[22:37] <oyvind__> hmm in the lastest version. If i choose to run ubuntu "side by side" in the installer .. what does it do when i comes to partitioning.. .i didnt get any more questions afterwards
[22:37] <guntbert> fretegi_part_3: open synaptic or Applications/AddRemove
[22:37] <mac9416> wad, maybe. Have you updated (I hate it when people ask me that)
[22:37] <fretegi_part_3> does ubuntu come with java in it?
[22:37] <pehden> thanks fire
[22:37] <elena09> Do you happen to know if the bug related to excessive heat versus excessive parking of the hard disk in laptops has been solved in Ubuntu 9.04 or newer?
[22:37] <thiebaude> fretegi_part_3: no
[22:37] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - how about adding a line "" Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 768  ""  in the server section?
[22:37] <elena09> Do you happen to know if the bug related to excessive heat versus excessive parking of the hard disk in laptops has been solved in Ubuntu 9.04 or newer?
[22:38] <elena09> Do you happen to know if the bug related to excessive heat versus excessive parking of the hard disk in laptops has been solved in Ubuntu 9.04 or newer?
[22:38] <wad> mac9416: Yes, I put in the very latest driver. So recent, it's not in the distro yet.
[22:38] <firecrotch> pehden: no problem :-) Just please refrain from the namecalling, mmkay?
[22:38] <elena09> Do you happen to know if the bug related to excessive heat versus excessive parking of the hard disk in laptops has been solved in Ubuntu 9.04 or newer?
[22:38] <wad> mac9416, before I put this driver in, I could't even use any 3-d screen savers. Too slow.
[22:38] <guntbert> !repeat | elena09
[22:38] <pehden> i mean i was kool about it for about 10 minuts
[22:38] <fretegi_part_3> and it is obtainable through repositories, dont hafta go to java site?
[22:38] <elena09> Do you happen to know if the bug related to excessive heat versus excessive parking of the hard disk in laptops has been solved in Ubuntu 9.04 or newer?
[22:38] <mac9416> wad, yeah. Well, that is singular. :-( File a bug and see what happens.
[22:39] <lianimator> how do I install g++-3.4 from deb? it won't install since it needs gcc-3.4-base. and the base won't install because a later version is installed. I tried removing gcc-4.3-base, but I get "You are about to do something potentially harmful." I'd rather not type 'Yes, do as I say!'
[22:39] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: I'm following the wiki entry I linked you atm...
[22:39] <wad> mac9416, wow... I've never files a bug for Linux before.
[22:39] <thiebaude> fretegi_part_3: i dont get it from stnaptic
[22:39] <erUSUL> lianimator: sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4
[22:40] <fretegi_part_3> lol so then go to the site?
[22:40] <Pulse> hello, where are the encrypted files kept if I chose to use encrypted home folder?
[22:40] <lianimator> erUSUL: I have gcc-3.4, what I need is the C++ compiler g++-3.4
[22:40] <IdleOne> install build-essential
[22:40] <mac9416> wad, I've only ever filed one, but I forgot how. You'll file it with Ubuntu, I believe in launchpad.net. I'll try and get ubottu to tell us how...
[22:40] <mac9416> !bug
[22:40] <mac9416> :-)
[22:40] <thiebaude> fretegi_part_3: i search in google, install java for ubuntu 9.04
[22:40] <thiebaude> !java
[22:41] <fretegi_part_3> k thnx
[22:41] <Pulse> !encrypted
[22:41] <thiebaude> but there is a link also
[22:41] <wad> mac9416, thanks!
[22:41] <mac9416> wad, np :-)
[22:42] <CyberCen> kevor:
[22:43] <fccf> lianimator: strange ... do you have the updates repository enabled ... and things need to be updated to get things installed properly
[22:43] <Pulse> I'd like to backup the encrypted version of files... where are the encrypted files kept if I chose to use encrypted home folder at installation time?
[22:43] <Fish-Face> anyone know how to get blender running properly in jaunty? (it's a common problem, but I can't find a solution to it short of running it in software rendering mode)
[22:44] <lianimator> fccf: I downloaded the deb of g++ 3.4.. not from repo. not sure if I should download from repo..
[22:44] <maximumbob> gastaufdemast: that's if I want a separate 'workspace'... I just need a clone of screen 0
[22:44] <spikemcc> yo bitches I need help a little ...
[22:44] <spikemcc> !paste
[22:44] <thiebaude> !language
[22:44] <firecrotch> !language | spikemcc
[22:45] <fccf> lianimator: if you have the updates repository enabled the repo version should install, provided you apt-get update
[22:45] <thiebaude> thanks firecrotch
[22:45] <spikemcc> ubottu shut up
[22:45] <emanuele> i know i have windows xp in my box on hd(1,4) but how can i know what is the hd(?,?) of my linux partition ?
[22:45] <Clouse> fccf: thanky you very much once again fccf thanks to you I am now back up and running and more importanly have learn just that much more about linux.
[22:45] <Pulse> is it possible to backup the encrypted version of my home directory?
[22:45] <fccf> Clouse: Glad I could help
[22:45] <KB1JWQ> Pulse: Sure, as a block device.
[22:46] <lianimator> fccf: I'm trying to install an older version next to my current one, possible?
[22:46] <r3l1c> easy
[22:46] <Pulse> KB1JWQ: can I do that in sbackup?
[22:46] <KB1JWQ> Pulse: No clue, never used it.
[22:46] <r3l1c> Pulse: yes
[22:46] <guntbert> !attitude | spikemcc
[22:46] <nbie> anyone know how can i put in a FIFO or LIST signals() thats i cant attend at X moment ? im in ansi c unbutu.. (I dont find helpers in programming channels)
[22:46] <fccf> lianimator: definatly not reccommended ... prolly not possible
[22:46] <Pulse> r3l1c: where is the encrypted version of my home directoy?
[22:47] <r3l1c> Mounted when you log on I think
[22:47] <Pulse> r3l1c: you mean encrypted version cannot be backed up when I am logged in
[22:47] <r3l1c> Pulse:  oh you want to copy the whole encrypted /home
[22:47] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/ 3 xorgs for my laptop the last one is mine actually but the graphic part is bugged so I wanna use a free driver to get it working ...
[22:47] <r3l1c> as it is encrypted?
[22:47] <Pulse> r3l1c: yes
[22:48] <guntbert> lianimator: why do you need an old version of g++?
[22:48] <Pulse> r3l1c: because otherwise there would be no point in encrypting it at the first place, no?
[22:48] <r3l1c> Log in as another user Pulse ... Give that user group rights to Pulse's files and then sbackup... But if you want to encrypt the day there are better tools... Are you saving to an external?
[22:49] <gastaufdemast> maximumbob - maybe you need a calibration with a tool like http://touchcal.sourceforge.net/   ? sry, no ideas...
[22:49] <r3l1c> day = data
[22:49] <maximumbob> I'll check it out
[22:49] <Pulse> r3l1c: no, local
[22:49] <spikemcc> hey !!!
[22:49] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[22:49] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[22:49] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[22:49] <FloodBot3> spikemcc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <transMIssion> looool
[22:50] <r3l1c> Pulse:  lemme think for a minute
[22:50] <Pulse> r3l1c: I'd like to have incremental backup capability, somewhat similar to time machine thing in macintosh
[22:50] <maximumbob> I don't really get those people... do they really think they're going to be helped?
[22:50] <transMIssion> floodbot test
[22:50] <lianimator> guntbert: I have some homework I'm working on in cygwin on XP in vbox.. which isn't that convenient for me. when I try to compile on Ubuntu, I get some linking errors.. I asked in ##C++ but they say my code is wrong
[22:50] <transMIssion> floodbot test
[22:50] <transMIssion> floodbot test
[22:50] <FloodBot3> transMIssion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <thiebaude> spikemcc: you got alot of things in there
[22:50] <firecrotch> maximumbob: they think that we'll help them in order to get them out of our hair quicker
[22:50] <jrib> transMIssion: don't do that please
[22:50] <lianimator> guntbert: oh and, the gcc version in cygwin is 3.4.4
[22:51] <maximumbob> firecrotch: fortunately for us, someone invented the idea of 'banning' a while back
[22:51]  * transMIssion waving at jrib
[22:51] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[22:51] <gOLDfeesh> whey I have a question about wireless.. I have lke 3 wireless cards. 2 dongles and one pci card. I tried a dongle in.. I'm able to scan the network.. and when I try and connect, it just gets stuck at trying to connect
[22:51] <r3l1c> Pulse:  something about that sounds off... Are you staying log in as the user that is encrypted... Locking the screen?
[22:52] <firecrotch> maximumbob: probably sees that there are no ops
[22:52] <Pulse> r3l1c: no i log out at nightas
[22:52] <jrib> spikemcc: you should ask a question (one time) on a single line to give some context to your pastebin
[22:52] <gOLDfeesh> two dongles are: dlink one has is a realtek driver (rt73) and the others are ipraw
[22:52] <r3l1c> But you keep the system running?
[22:52] <Pulse> r3l1c: yes
[22:53] <guntbert> lianimator: still: I suppose if your code keeps "to the standard" - errors are errors in any version - so cances are good that if your code compiles in 4.3 it will also in 3.4
[22:53] <Pulse> r3l1c: but I think the backup system will have to be able to backup whether I am logged in or out
[22:53] <guntbert> *chances
[22:53] <gOLDfeesh> Texas Instrument ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface
[22:53] <transMIssion> jrib: how many lines can you post before you are banned?
[22:53] <gOLDfeesh> !pastebin > transMIssion
[22:53] <jiffe> anyone used gfs on vmware4?
[22:53] <jrib> transMIssion: not sure,
[22:54] <lianimator> guntbert: my situation is it compiles in 3.4 (cygwin) but not 4.3 on Ubuntu. :(
[22:54] <r3l1c> Create a truecrypt volume. Excryption is only going to help you if someone snatches the drive or if you shut down when the fuzz is coming, thats if they don't have a canister of liquid nitrogen
[22:54] <r3l1c> put the truecrypt volume at /var/encbackup and mount it on logon.
[22:55] <r3l1c> or startup
[22:55] <transMIssion> gOLDfeesh: i know. was just impressed by the cool floodbot
[22:55] <r3l1c> so when you pull the pluf the hold volume is encrypted
[22:55] <r3l1c> pluf = plug
[22:55] <aboSamoor> can anyone help me to setup tftp server ?
[22:55] <LongbowSir> gbow
[22:55] <guntbert> lianimator: ouch!
[22:55] <transMIssion> aboSamoor: î would google first...
[22:56] <jrib> I have http://pastebin.com/f4ff6ead3 in ~/.xmodmaprc and ~/.xprofile contains "xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc > ZZ_THIS_WAS_EXECUTED" (which gets executed on login).  I am starting xmonad through gdm.  After xmonad starts, I notice that my xmodmap has not taken affect.  However, running "xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc" works fine.  Ideas?
[22:56] <LongbowSir> any one good with graphic problems?
[22:56] <aboSamoor> transMIssion,  I have been googling for 40 minutes
[22:56] <transMIssion> aboSamoor: k dud was just thinkin...
[22:57] <Pulse> r3l1c: I thought ubuntu was using truecrypt by default
[22:57] <guntbert> lianimator: but you should get you code to compile on a recent version anyways - so improve your code :-)
[22:57] <gastaufdemast> LongbowSir - just ask, someone might answer...
[22:58] <guntbert> *your code
[22:58] <transMIssion> aboSamoor: found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer
[22:58] <gOLDfeesh> anyone?
[22:58] <StrangeCharm> how do i make a program run automatically on startup
[22:58] <fccf> !anyone | gOLDfeesh
[22:58] <bastidrazor> !startup | StrangeCharm for gnome
[22:58] <LongbowSir> I can't get the screen resolution to change from 800X400 when using a nvdia graphics card and a Samsung 2233 wide screen
[22:59] <StrangeCharm> bastidrazor-  no, not for gnome, on an x-less system
[22:59] <fccf> !boot | StrangeCharm
[22:59] <aboSamoor> transMIssion, I setup the file /etc/default/tftp-hpa and starting the process does not give any result, no process created and no listening port !
[22:59] <gOLDfeesh> fccf don't start that..
[22:59] <jrib> regarding my xmodmap issue: gnome-settings-daemon was stupidly reverting my changes
[23:00] <iceroot> which permission (user:group) is apache using to create a log?  root:root  or wwwdata:wwwdata?
[23:00] <fccf> gOLDfeesh: don't come in here with unsupported hardware, stop buying junk
[23:00] <gOLDfeesh> Something's buggy with the terminal too.. on live CD apparently, you can't use modeprob
[23:00] <lianimator> guntbert: I wish I could.. but it's actually code provide by my teacher. I hate working on programming homework in cygwin/windows
[23:00] <gastaufdemast> LongbowSir - which driver is installed? nv? or Nvidia?
[23:00] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[23:00] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[23:00] <neure> hi
[23:00] <LongbowSir> nvidia driver is installed
[23:00] <carick> lianimator: what language is this/
[23:01] <glitsj16> aboSamoor: there might be a separate tftp config file in /etc somewhere, at least that's usually the case (never used tftp personally)
[23:01] <bastidrazor> gOLDfeesh, modeprob is not a command
[23:01] <r3l1c> Pulse:  sorry I got pulled away... Use the volume for your backup destination.
[23:01] <neure> i just tried to install kubuntu from usb but i didnt get far, i got Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
[23:01] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/
[23:01] <neure> pretty much around 4.1something
[23:01] <neure> any ideas?
[23:01] <lianimator> carick: C++
[23:01] <spikemcc> hey are you jerks or what ?
[23:01] <lstarnes> spikemcc: what do you want us to do with that?  You keep pasting that link without any other info
[23:02] <spikemcc> when I give info you don't help more
[23:02] <carick> lianimator: no english
[23:02] <fccf> spikemcc: no you are ... we need details and you not to use explicitives relating to dogs
[23:02] <transMIssion> aboSamoor: sry mate. no idea. Hang on there :-)
[23:02] <mrxyz> unop: Are you there?
[23:02] <lianimator> carick: ha-ha
[23:02] <carick> lianimator: jk, and what happens when you try to compile, sorry hopping in late
[23:02] <gastaufdemast> LongbowSir - tried the Nvidia X Driver Settings in your menu?
[23:02] <lstarnes> spikemcc: what is the problem what you are having with that xorg config? (yes, I read the paste)
[23:02] <Pulse> r3l1c: you mean backup the decrypted version but into an encrypted volume?
[23:03] <VikOlliver> VRML viewers for VRML V2.0 - do we have one?
[23:03] <meteor``> Is thr any firewall type thing in Ubuntu?
[23:03] <LongbowSir> yes I did ,when the machine boots up the graphics are correct,but once teh home screen comes up then it reverts to the 800X400 !
[23:03] <lstarnes> meteor``: yes
[23:03] <bastidrazor> LongbowSir, gksudo nvidia-settings .. when done making changes be sure to save to X. restart X and you've hopefully done what you need
[23:03] <guntbert> lianimator: if you want to talk about the code - we could do it over in ##C++ - as its a bit off tpoic here
[23:03] <transMIssion> gOLDfeesh: how can i send messages by ubottu?
[23:03] <thiebaude> !ufw
[23:04] <lstarnes> !firewall | meteor``
[23:04] <spikemcc> my xorg.conf is the 3rd one and the graphic setup don't work, it broken when I installed my 2nd monitor ... ati catalyst 9.4 driver on hardy 64 ...
[23:04] <maximumbob> Anyone know why when compiling something I get 'stdscr undelcared'? I have installed ncurses5-dev
[23:04] <lianimator> carick: situation is: my teacher provided the makefile and skeleton files to compile a scanner using flex. the error is "extern __FILE__ *fin"
[23:04] <transMIssion> !help
[23:04] <lstarnes> spikemcc: where did you get the driver from?
[23:05] <maximumbob> nm got it
[23:05] <LongbowSir> I know this seems like a dumb question ...How do I save to X ?
[23:05] <fccf> !msgthebot | transMIssion
[23:05] <spikemcc> but it was working well before so I want to put back an open source driver until I reinstall catalyst driver later ...
[23:05] <lianimator> guntbert: I've tried in ##C++, unresolved. so I just wanna try the same version which worked
[23:05] <mrxyz> unop: I have a problem. The code yuo gave me doesn't cut the line after the </description> at the end of the line. Some extra code is still there. I have the <description>...</descripion> at a line each, but then there are some code afterwards. I don't want that. I want the pearl script to only put <description>bla bla</description> on each row, not any other tags afterward on each line.
[23:05] <LongbowSir> or will that be an option??
[23:05] <fccf> and for all you noob's www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[23:05] <lianimator> How can two debs be installed which depend on each other?
[23:06] <transMIssion> !msgthebot | fccf  does this work?
[23:06] <lstarnes> spikemcc: you're not using the restricted drivers from ubuntu's repos?
[23:06] <fccf> transMIssion: yes
[23:06] <lstarnes> lianimator: install them at the same time
[23:06] <thiebaude> fccf: that was an excellent read
[23:06] <transMIssion> fccf: nice :-D
[23:06] <filosofic> Can anyone let me know an IRC chat room for Firefox-3.5 problems on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala?  Keep getting a "Firefox-3.5 is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox-3.5 process, or restart your system." error.
[23:06] <lstarnes> lianimator: e.g. sudo dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb
[23:06] <maximumbob> Why did 'ctrl-alt-backspace' to kill X get removed from ubuntu? :-/ It hasn't ever worked on any of my ubuntu systems
[23:06] <fccf> !karmic filosofic
[23:06] <lstarnes> !dontzap | maximumbob
[23:06] <fccf> !karmic | filosofic
[23:06] <carick> filosofic: ls -A in your home directory
[23:06] <lianimator> lstarnes: th
[23:06] <transMIssion> !tracker
[23:07] <KB1JWQ> filosofic: ps aux | grep firefox; kill that process.  Try it then.
[23:07] <guntbert> lianimator: ok, just from your last statement I guess I couldn't be of much help there (I expected something basic) -  sorry
[23:07] <spikemcc> no the repo driver is too outdated for me
[23:07] <_gpg_> hi
[23:07] <maximumbob> lstarnes: tahaa - never knew that existed. thanks.
[23:07] <lstarnes> spikemcc: we only officially support the drivers in the repos
[23:07] <_gpg_> Is it possible to get linux kernel 2.6.27+ for ubuntu hardy please ?
[23:07] <soreau> lstarnes: Doesn't dontzap just add the DontZap option to the server flags section of xorg.conf?
[23:07] <lstarnes> soreau: I'm not sure
[23:07] <VikOlliver> ubottu, What does ubuntu have for a VRML 2.0 viewer?
[23:07] <neko_> ffs
[23:07] <neko_> er wrong chan
[23:07] <spikemcc> I just want my xorg to work with an open source driver as it was working at the first setup
[23:08] <fccf> _gpg_ perhaps in ppa
[23:08] <spikemcc> until I put back the official catalyst driver ...
[23:08] <_gpg_> fccf, i'm searching, thank you
[23:08] <lianimator> How do I install 3 debs, but one needs to be configured first?
[23:08] <eupator> hello people!
[23:08] <transMIssion> eupator: hello you!
[23:09] <lstarnes> spikemcc: was it working before you installed the 2nd monitor?
[23:09] <transMIssion> gnight
[23:09] <bastidrazor> lianimator, sudo dpkg -i file.deb  .. then do the next then the next
[23:09] <gOLDfeesh> Alright, so I don't have the internet on my computer, (the one I'm trying to install Linux on) and I'm trying to setup my wireless.
[23:09] <kain> hi all, wondering if anyone knew how to fix this problem i'm having : Using PDF edit, I open a .pdf and want to underline some words in it, when i try this, i get error :Error.Exception in ContentStream.replace : Document is read-only?
[23:09] <spikemcc> yes perfectly with catalyst 9.4
[23:09] <gastaufdemast> !night | transMIssion
[23:10] <lianimator> bastidrazor: e.g. A depend on B, B on A; but A needs to be configured for B to install..
[23:10] <gastaufdemast> *lol* ubottu
[23:10] <filosofic> thanx all....
[23:10] <spikemcc> I just as missed luck with the config of the second monitor
[23:10] <gOLDfeesh> I have a DWL-G122 (Dlink) and the original "Texas Instrument ACX 100 22Mbps Wireless Interface" that's on the computer anyone able to help me get Wireless working?
[23:10] <meteor``> thanx, I got firestarter. :)
[23:10] <carick> filosofic: you there?
[23:10] <eupator> what analog of visual studio exist for ubuntu?
[23:10] <lstarnes> spikemcc: what exactly is broken about the current setup?
[23:10] <spikemcc> gOLDfeesh: ndiswrapper in the doc
[23:11] <gOLDfeesh> eupator you can try Mono Develop..
[23:11] <gOLDfeesh> spikemcc ndiswrapper says "command not found"
[23:11] <maximumbob> I can't believe I've spent over 5 hours trying to flip the X and Y axes on an input device and made exactly zero progress. I figured this would be trivially easy in Linux.
[23:11] <gOLDfeesh> meteor`` to be completely honest, I don't know if they fixed firestarter or not.. but it just caused nothing but more issues for me when I tried it
[23:11] <spikemcc> I don't know but xorg is now reconfigurated with mesa I think
[23:11] <gOLDfeesh> gufw is pretty deent though..
[23:11] <lstarnes> spikemcc: what about it isn't working right?
[23:11] <meteor``> I should try gufw then.
[23:12] <spikemcc> so now I get only 800x600 it's hard
[23:12] <spikemcc> my monitor is on 1280x800 normaly
[23:12] <eupator> gOLDfeesh, can I install it via apt?
[23:12] <gOLDfeesh> eupator yes
[23:12] <gOLDfeesh> meteor`` I was using ubuntu hardy at that time.. they seemed to have fixed a lot with jaunty
[23:12] <eupator> gOLDfeesh, 10x a lot!
[23:12] <lstarnes> spikemcc: other than onlt having 800x600, can you still use both monitors?
[23:12] <bastidrazor> lianimator, the command is still the same. dpkg -i file.deb then do the same to the 2nd deb.
[23:13] <spikemcc> don't know I want my 1280x800 back
[23:13] <spikemcc> that will be enough for me ...
[23:13] <lstarnes> spikemcc: are you still using both monitors, or are you just using one?
[23:13] <wizzo> sebsebseb: ok, here I am.
[23:14] <meteor``> I started the firewall.
[23:14] <spectacular> i put netbook remix onto an eee pc.  it has a funny desktop -- UNR. i want to switch it to the normal gnome look and behavior.  how would i do that?  apt-get install gnome?
[23:14] <spikemcc> one
[23:14] <bastidrazor> spectacular, ubuntu-desktop
[23:14] <meteor``> it should be running in the background? or it gets closed when i click the 'x' button?
[23:15] <dayo> in my /var
[23:15] <lstarnes> meteor``: it's in the background
[23:15] <lianimator> bastidrazor: I still get dependency error no matter how I order them.
[23:15] <bastidrazor> lianimator, install the dependencies it needs then.
[23:15] <dayo> in my /var/log/auth.log i have periodic appearances of this:  sudo:     root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=username ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/port   what does it mean?
[23:15] <spikemcc> I miss my 1280x800 help me a little
[23:15] <lstarnes> spikemcc: I'm trying.  Please be patient
[23:16] <Zaqq> is there a setfsb utility in ubuntu? i wish to lower the cpu speed on my netbook
[23:16] <spikemcc> any driver that work will do ... ati open source driver maybe
[23:16] <lianimator> bastidrazor: that's the thing. it's a chiicken and egg problem
[23:16] <carick> lianimator: what too things are you trying to .deb
[23:16] <gastaufdemast> spikemcc - what happens when you start your system with a live-cd?
[23:16] <lstarnes> spikemcc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution might have some information that can help you with fixing the resolution
[23:17] <r3l1c> who currently has a man page open?
[23:17] <guntbert> r3l1c: why?
[23:17] <spikemcc> the live cd always worked perfectly any distro
[23:17] <r3l1c> guntbert:  just curious
[23:17] <lianimator> carick: trying to install g++-3.4 and libstdc++6-dev
[23:18] <gastaufdemast> spikemcc - ok, did you compare the xorg.conf files?
[23:18] <guntbert> r3l1c: then its off-topic here :-)
[23:18] <spikemcc> ah man just fucking codes you don't have better ?
[23:18] <spikemcc> not really
[23:18] <r3l1c> omg, I come in here and help everyday and I can't ask a question? really?
[23:18] <guntbert> !ohmy | spikemcc
[23:18] <lstarnes> r3l1c: you asked a question
[23:18] <carick> lianimator: im pretty sure g++ is part of gcc
[23:18] <spikemcc> cause they the ati driver and I just want the open source one
[23:18] <lianimator> really gotta sleep. thanks for help..
[23:18] <gastaufdemast> spikemcc - can you copy the xorg.conf from the live-cd on the hdd?
[23:19] <r3l1c> with out get crap for it
[23:19] <spikemcc> I don't know how ...
[23:19] <lstarnes> r3l1c: my answer to it is no
[23:19] <r3l1c> nevermind... not worth it.. sorry for being off topic
[23:19] <lianimator> I'm 4 hours past my daily workrave-limit... that's 9 hours of computing.
[23:19] <jared> I cannot download any torrents or my wifi disconnects
[23:19] <lstarnes> spikemcc: looking at the most recent xorg config, I didn't see any modelines in it
[23:19] <daniel29> how can i create a virtual machine from a real (windows or linux) installation?
[23:20] <Alek_86> hello all
[23:20] <funkyHat> daniel29: clonezilla or ghost or something perhaps
[23:20] <fccf> daniel29: you might want to ask your question in #vbox
[23:20] <gOLDfeesh> followed the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209315 and still no internet
[23:20] <daniel29> funkyHat: i need a virtual machine that i can execute later
[23:20] <kyja> firefox wants to download PHTML instead of run it server side. php is working. so I dont know what this is
[23:20] <spikemcc> I just need a decent default driver and to keep other parts of my xorg.conf ...
[23:20] <funkyHat> daniel29: or you might be able to mount a real hard disk partition as a virtual drive, but not sure if that's what you want
[23:20] <Alek_86> I installed FGLRX 9.3 Ati driver, and now xorg process is using almost 100% cpu :( How can I fix that?
[23:21] <daycreature> Whenever I attempt to download a torrent using ANY client (does not seem to matter which), it downloads for a few minutes and then my wifi disconnects. The ONLY way I am able to regain connection is by resetting the computer. What can I do to fix this?
[23:21] <funkyHat> daniel29: not sure what you mean by "execute later"
[23:21] <r3l1c> I have found times when apache and firefox just try to download php files, anyone know why?
[23:21] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/ my current xorg.conf is the 3rd one ...
[23:21] <daniel29> funkyHat: execute as a virtual machine
[23:21] <glitsj16> r311c
[23:21] <funkyHat> daniel29: right, so my first suggestion is probably better then
[23:22] <spikemcc> the others are just xorg.conf of differents ubuntu with the same hardware ...
[23:22] <r3l1c> yes glitsj16?
[23:22] <glitsj16> you need to activate the PHP module
[23:22] <funkyHat> r3l1c: problems with apache's config, if it's not set up to execute php it will just serve the file
[23:22] <erUSUL> daycreature: looks like a bug in the wifi driver (kernel)
[23:22] <r3l1c> ok... thanks
[23:22] <erUSUL> !bugs | daycreature
[23:22] <kyja> so there is another php module to do PHTML ?
[23:22] <gOLDfeesh> followed the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209315 and still no internet any suggestions?
[23:22] <bucky> r3l1c: you have to set the mime type for .php in apache.conf and  restart apache.. there's a line you uncomment
[23:23] <kyja> ahhh
[23:23] <daycreature> erUSUL if I file a bug will that mean someone will get back to me?
[23:23] <erUSUL> daycreature: probably;
[23:23] <funcky1> why is copying and pasting from error windows to other applications like gedit or firefox not working?
[23:23] <daycreature> Alright, and what do I put for <package>
[23:24] <megatron> sorry to but in, but, anyone got a link to a noob how-to for an apache web server on ubuntu.....?
[23:24] <erUSUL> funcky1: not even middle click ?
[23:24] <carick> funcky1: try highligh and middle click
[23:24] <funcky1> ive tried
[23:24] <carick> funcky1: try again
[23:24] <epicreviews> hey how do you install an icon set?
[23:24] <erUSUL> !icons
[23:24] <carick> epicreviews: you copy the files
[23:25] <guntbert> !lamp | megatron
[23:25] <funcky1> yup, doesnt work
[23:26] <Hreno> !
[23:26] <epicreviews> that bot thing was worthless
[23:26] <funcky1> why is copying and pasting from error windows to other applications like gedit or firefox not working?
[23:27] <jrib> funcky1: how are you copying?
[23:27] <r3l1c> libapach-mod-php5 ? This one? glitsj16
[23:27] <epicreviews> I downloaded an icon set from gnome-looks I believe, and I would like to install it
[23:27] <r3l1c> glitsj16:
[23:27] <funcky1> ctrl +c
[23:27] <jrib> epicreviews: system -> preferences -> appearance
[23:27] <lstarnes> spikemcc: other than through xrandr and adding modelines to xorg.conf, I'm out of ideas
[23:27] <jrib> funcky1: do you select the text first?  Can you right click on it?
[23:27] <soreau> funcky1: Is it actually showing the text highlighted?
[23:27] <funcky1> yes, yes
[23:27] <VikOlliver> Hi folks, any idea what I can use to view VRML 2.0 files?
[23:27] <funcky1> yes
[23:27] <epicreviews> ok what after "appearance"?
[23:28] <jrib> funcky1: you were asked 3 questions...
[23:28] <epicreviews> note the icon set is on my desktop
[23:28] <glitsj16> r311c: yes, after installing that, did you activate it? you'll need the "sudo a2enmod php5" command to do that
[23:28] <jrib> !who | funcky1
[23:28] <funcky1> jrib: yes, yes
[23:28] <funcky1> soreau: yes
[23:28] <jrib> funcky1: can you use "copy" on your menu?
[23:28] <r3l1c> glitsj16:  no not yet I just went looking to find out which module to load.
[23:28] <epicreviews> jrib, what after appearance?
[23:28] <funcky1> jrib: yes
[23:28] <moymoy> epicreviews: go to the theme manager and drag the set into the theme manager
[23:28] <GuidoVb> Hi everybody, i'm testing karmic koala, I found a bug that it's in Fix Commited status but i can't find the fix, who can help me please? Thanks!
[23:28] <carick> epicreviews: what format is it in
[23:29] <r3l1c> I will do it later... Time for ribs!
[23:29] <jrib> funcky1: and does that fail as well?
[23:29] <r3l1c> Thanks
[23:29] <funcky1> yes jrib
[23:29] <jrib> epicreviews: "Install..."
[23:29] <jrib> funcky1: don't know then
[23:29] <mickster04> can someone who has youtube working go on this site and tell me what flash it says u have? im trouble shooting http://supportdetails.com/
[23:29] <epicreviews> I got it, the drag and drop worked for me, thanks all
[23:29] <soreau> funcky1: Highlight / Middle Click fails as well?
[23:29] <jrib> !flash > mickster04
[23:29] <guntbert> !karmic | GuidoVb
[23:29] <lstarnes> GuidoVb: iirc, once the fix reaches the released status you should get it
[23:29] <funcky1> soreau: yes
[23:29] <glitsj16> r311c: okay, it's not very well documented, but the comand is mentioned in the general help on LAMP installs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Installing%20PHP%205)
[23:30] <jrib> mickster04: (that site is useless, it says "10")
[23:30] <soreau> funcky1: Sounds like something's funcky with your system then
[23:30] <mickster04> kribjri for me it says 9
[23:30] <mickster04> jrib,  for me it says 9
[23:30] <bastidrazor> mickster04, that is rather cool site. 64bit jaunty here.. using flash 10
[23:30] <funcky1> soreau: like what?
[23:31] <jrib> funcky1: let's see... does your clipboard change to nothing if you had something in it previously, or does it remain the same
[23:31] <epicreviews> ok I also have a bigger problem
[23:31] <mickster04> i looked in my plugins and theres shockwave flash at that version number
[23:31] <soreau> funcky1: No idea. I think the clipboard is just a buffer in memory, so it should be working
[23:31] <jrib> mickster04: yes, but what flash are you using?  Pastebin about:config from your browser
[23:31] <mickster04> i dunno how to update it
[23:31] <_PiLoT_> does ubuntu ever need defragging?
[23:31] <jrib> _PiLoT_: ~no
[23:31] <funcky1> jrib: how do i view the clipboard?
[23:31] <fccf> _PiLoT_: no
[23:31] <mickster04> jrib, which bit do u want
[23:31] <GuidoVb> thanks everybody! going to #ubuntu+1
[23:31] <GuidoVb> bye
[23:31] <jrib> funcky1: paste it somewhere is the easy way
[23:32] <glitsj16> _PiLoT_: it all depends on the filsesystem you use
[23:32] <jrib> mickster04: all of it
[23:32] <jrib> !pastebin > mickster04
[23:32] <_PiLoT_> as in?
[23:32] <epicreviews> I installed a malfunctioning package, and I don't know how to uninstall it, I'm getting errors all over the place. It is a private package my friend wanted me to try
[23:32] <jrib> epicreviews: pastebin
[23:32] <fccf> epicreviews: how was it installed?
[23:32] <funcky1> what does "somewhere the easy way" mean, jrib?
[23:32] <epicreviews> package manager, fccf
[23:32] <glitsj16> _PiLoT_: xfs has auto-defrag features for one, ext2 and ext3 don't
[23:32] <Barqers> Can someone help me?
[23:32] <soreau> epicreviews: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[23:32] <jrib> funcky1: (pasting it somewhere) is the easy way
[23:33] <erUSUL> !anyone | Barqers
[23:33] <fccf> epicreviews: than it should be removable from the package manager
[23:33] <epicreviews> doesn't work soreau, it's that screwed up
[23:33] <soreau> Barqers: Not if you don't ask your question
[23:33] <soreau> ! work | epicreviews
[23:33] <_PiLoT_> im on ext3
[23:33] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/ my xorg.conf is the 3rd can you help me repair it for catalyst 9.4 on hardy 64 with two monitors ??? it crashed when I setup the 2nd monitor ... the other xorg.conf use the same hardware to help a little for the repair ... open source driver could do for a little time also ...
[23:33] <soreau> epicreviews: Pastebin the failed output
[23:33] <epicreviews> that method doesn't solve the problem
[23:33] <mickster04> jrib, how do i select all of it?
[23:33] <epicreviews> ok
[23:33] <funcky1> jrib: but i cant paste it somewhere
[23:34] <jrib> mickster04: ctrl-a?
[23:34] <jrib> funcky1: why not...?
[23:34] <mickster04> jrib, nope
[23:34] <_PiLoT_> how would i know if my ubuntu partition is being bad???
[23:34] <grunt> How can I set my world region to US in crda, there should be a config file for crda in /etc like in other distros, what I'm I missing?
[23:34] <jrib> mickster04: drag your mouse from the top to bottom?
[23:34] <mickster04> jrib, nada:(
[23:34] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219315/ my xorg.conf is the 3rd can you help me repair it for catalyst 9.4 on hardy 64 with two monitors ??? it crashed when I setup the 2nd monitor ... the other xorg.conf use the same hardware to help a little for the repair ... open source driver could do for a little time also ...
[23:35] <jrib> mickster04: erm...
[23:35] <glitsj16> _PiLoT_: http://sharevm.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/435/ has some things you can check
[23:35] <Barqers> I own a business and my system which records all data is located in an Acess file database. I use *.asp files which go through IIS 7 in windows vista. However, this OS extremely slows down my system, and I wanted to move to Linux as my OS. However, I was wondering if I can setup ASP on Ubuntu. Not to serve over the internet, only within my network. Such as the web address "http://localhost:8080" sort of thing. How would I setup this und
[23:35] <Barqers> er Ubuntu?
[23:35] <funcky1> jrib as i said before, i cant copy from the error windows
[23:35] <mickster04> jrib, i downloaded flash 1- an installed it:/
[23:35] <gartral> how do I get Nautilus to NOT show the "These Files..."bars on the top of the folder veiw?
[23:35] <jfj1> si eso
[23:35] <mickster04> jrib, install_flash_player_10_linux.deb from the adobe site
[23:35] <erUSUL> Barqers: mono is a .Net implementation fro linux that supports asp.net
[23:35] <erUSUL> for*
[23:36] <jrib> funcky1: here is what I am asking you to do: 1. copy something that you know works (for example this sentence).  2.  Paste it somewhere to verify it is in your clipboard.  3.  Try to copy your error message.  4.  Then press paste again and report what happens.  Does it still have the original sentence or is it now blank?  Also, see what "middle click" pastes
[23:36] <dayo> in my /var/log/auth.log i have periodic appearances of this:  sudo:     root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=username ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/port   what does it mean?
[23:36] <jrib> mickster04: I need to see the about:config output
[23:36] <mickster04> well easier said than done, what are you looiking for?
[23:36] <Barqers> erUSUL: I was reading about that, Mono, XSP Program. But I heard it does not work with *.asp files? Only *.aspX files?
[23:36] <epicreviews> All: output from uninstall: http://pastebin.ca/1496292
[23:36] <mickster04> jrib, well easier said than done, what are you looiking for?
[23:37] <jrib> dayo: my guess (check your cron): the automatic apt update
[23:37] <erUSUL> Barqers: may be true. old asp is not suported only asp.net
[23:37] <jrib> mickster04: everything that says flash or shockwave
[23:37] <Akkarin> Moin :D
[23:37] <jrib> I don't understand how you cannot copy it
[23:37] <epicreviews> and I've tried reinstalling the package, the package installer doesn't like it, says it might be corrupted (which it's not) or something else
[23:37] <jrib> mickster04: oh, wait, I do.  It's completely my mistake, sorry.  I meant about:plugins
[23:38] <Akkarin> can everyone tell me how i can open a new window list? i've closed the list at the bottom of the screen -.-
[23:38] <McPeter> spikemcc, please stop pv now !!
[23:38] <funcky1> after copying the error message i am unable to paste *anything* jrib
[23:38] <glitsj16> Barqers: http://www.blogternals.com/2009/05/02/ubuntu-jaunty-jackalope-php-aspnet-side-by-side-with-apache2/ might be of interest
[23:38] <edbian> Akkarin: Right click on the panel and "add to panel"  Then choose window list
[23:38] <erUSUL> Akkarin: add the windows list applet to the panel
[23:38] <edbian> Akkarin: :)
[23:38] <gartral> Akkarin: make a new panel, and then add window list too it
[23:38] <jrib> funcky1: you mean copy and paste ceases to function or just that when you paste immediately after, it pastes nothing?
[23:39] <mickster04> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/219348/
[23:39] <funcky1> jrib: i mean paste is not an option
[23:39] <jrib> mickster04: remove swfdec
[23:39] <gartral> how do I get Nautilus to NOT show the "These Files..."bars on the top of the folder veiw?
[23:39] <mickster04> tips?
[23:39] <jrib> funcky1: interesting
[23:39] <Koltor> quick question, I'm running 9.04 and Grub2, I need to install windows xp on another partition and am assuming it will screw up grub. I know if i were using grub1 i could fix it with the live cd, what can I do to fix grub2 after i install xp?
[23:39] <funcky1> jrib: it is grayed out
[23:39] <Akkarin> hm i don't know how i can make a new panel ^^
[23:39] <mickster04> frib__, how? i can disable it in the plugin manager
[23:39] <jrib> funcky1: what program is this exactly that throws the error?
[23:39] <moymoy> gartral: i don't even know what you're talking about
[23:40] <frib__> mickster04: sorry, i'm totally out of context
[23:40] <gartral> Akkarin: right click the panel you do have and Make New Panel
[23:40] <Akkarin> oh thanx xD
[23:40] <jrib> mickster04: I would just remove all of the swfdec packages you have installed.  You can also use that firefox plugin manager, but I'm not familiar with it
[23:40] <mickster04> frib__, sorry wring person
[23:40] <funcky1> any program that throws an error and in several types of error window formats. also update manager's error window.
[23:41] <olinuxx> ++
[23:41] <funcky1> jrib: any program that throws an error and in several types of error window formats. also update manager's error window.
[23:41] <epicreviews> can I manually delete an installed package and any/all entries for it?
[23:41] <Barqers> glitsj16: Thank you very much, I will check it out.
[23:41] <bjorkintosh> there's definitely something wrong with ubuntu...
[23:41] <jrib> funcky1: can you give me one example that is easy for me to replicate here?
[23:41] <glitsj16> Koltor: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide has the details
[23:41] <mickster04> jrib, will get right bac to u then
[23:41] <gartral> moymoy: I have a DAP plugged in, and when i brose the folder it mounts too, it says in these obnoxiously huge bars "These files are on a Picture CD" and "These files are on a digital audio player" the first is wrong, the second is obvious
[23:41] <moymoy> epicreviews: you might break the package manager though
[23:41] <Akkarin> it works :D
[23:41] <Koltor> thanks glitsj16
[23:41] <Barqers> erUSUL: Thank you for your help. I'll research Mono and see if it will support *.asp!
[23:41] <bjorkintosh> this machine is an ancient mac with debian running on it. nothing crashes on it ever.
[23:41] <epicreviews> moymoy, nothing else I can do, already broken
[23:42] <bjorkintosh> ubuntu on the other hand crashes firefox seemingly 23 quadrillion times a day!
[23:42] <epicreviews> I need to fix this, I REALLY don't want to do a reinstall
[23:42] <bjorkintosh> is there something i ought to be looking for?
[23:42] <erUSUL> Barqers: ok; good luck
[23:42] <dayo> jrib: u were right, it's apt. thank u.
[23:42] <StrangeCharm> what's a good place to put installed programs?
[23:42] <jrib> bjorkintosh: you could file a bug and provide debugging information if you wish
[23:42] <edbian> epicreviews: To remove a package completely run sudo apt-get purge <packagename>
[23:42] <jrib> !debug > bjorkintosh
[23:42] <StrangeCharm> also, what's the difference between /bin and /sbin
[23:42] <glitsj16> bjorkintosh: any errors thrown when firefox crashes?
[23:42] <edbian> bjorkintosh: Debian is great isn't it! :)
[23:42] <bjorkintosh> jrib, when it's crashing, everything freezes and i can't do anything at all!
[23:43] <bruenig> edbian: calm down
[23:43] <epicreviews> edbian, I guess I'm screwed then because I remember doing that and it failed
[23:43] <jrib> bjorkintosh: what video drivers?
[23:43] <moymoy> epicreviews: what error messages do you get?
[23:43] <edbian> StrangeCharm: /bin is system binaries.  /sbin is binaries that can only be run as root.
[23:43] <erUSUL> StrangeCharm: sbin holds binaries only intended for root to run
[23:43] <jrib> !lfs > StrangeCharm
[23:43] <bjorkintosh> jrib, it's an old machine from 2005.
[23:43] <frib__> StrangeCharm: /bin are usually static binaries
[23:43] <mickster04> jrib, you legend!!
[23:43] <bjorkintosh> never had problems with it until now.
[23:43] <mickster04> just gona check youtube works
[23:43] <jrib> !fhs > StrangeCharm
[23:43] <funcky1> jrib: like i said it just comes up in dialogue windows
[23:43]  * jrib wonders how that happened
[23:43] <bruenig> lfs is linux from scratch, what is this ubottu heresy?
[23:43] <edbian> epicreviews: Do you remember any errors it threw?  What exactly is your problem?
[23:43] <epicreviews> edbian: E: The package portos-archive-keyring needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[23:43] <jrib> bruenig: I was 2 for 3!
[23:44] <erUSUL> bruenig: linux standar base --> lfs
[23:44] <l33tHAXOR6669> why is my wlan light blinking like crazy?
[23:44] <l33tHAXOR6669> it should be solid
[23:44] <bruenig> epicreviews: apt-get update
[23:44] <mickster04> jrib, awesome man, ill remember that one!
[23:44] <jrib> StrangeCharm: ignore ubottu's first message of course...
[23:44] <StrangeCharm> thanks for those explanations and links, edbian erUSUL frib__ jrib
[23:44] <gartral> moymoy: here have a screen shot http://imagebin.org/56055
[23:44] <mickster04> cookie | jrib
[23:44] <edbian> epicreviews: Is that dpkg saying it can't find an archive?  Or is that you.
[23:44] <mickster04> !cookie | jrib
[23:44] <epicreviews> that's dpkg
[23:44] <epicreviews> @edbian
[23:44] <mickster04> jrib, thats been doin my head in for ages!!!!
[23:45] <moymoy> gartral: i just inserted a CD and i know what you're talking about
[23:45] <edbian> epicreviews: Odd.  Try using the CD as a repo?
[23:45] <l33tHAXOR6669> anyone here work for ubuntu, or are we just users?
[23:45] <edbian> epicreviews: Although I'm not sure that package is on the CD at all.
[23:45] <moymoy> gartral: that sucks... but not much i can do for you
[23:45] <jrib> !ot | l33tHAXOR6669
[23:45] <epicreviews> edbian, it's not an official .deb file I installed
[23:45] <notRoot> I am trying to install VMware Player but, I dont know which to download. My choices are .rpm and .bundle
[23:45] <nouri> hi
[23:45] <gartral> moymoy: yea... how do I get them too go away... and never rear there ugliness ever again?
[23:45] <epicreviews> I'm aware of my past mistakes, I'm trying to undo them
[23:45] <l33tHAXOR6669> -_-
[23:45] <edbian> epicreviews: Can you sudo dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> ??
[23:45] <jrib> funcky1: ok, but it might be helpful for me to tell you if it happens here as well
[23:45] <phix> hey
[23:46] <bruenig> epicreviews: dpkg -r --force-all portos-archive-keyring
[23:46] <phix> I am having issues getting an Upsonic DS1000 UPS working in Ubuntu
[23:46] <bjorkintosh> i really wish i'd split my disk into partitions from the beginning...
[23:46] <phix> any one had experience with this device?
[23:46] <l33tHAXOR6669> stupid wlan lights....i guess ill know all the packets coing into my pc
[23:46] <StrangeCharm> so, jrib, the best place to put a piece of software that i have download and compile myself is /opt ?
[23:46] <bjorkintosh> replacing this ... crap with plain old debian would have been a snap.
[23:46] <notRoot> phix: what kind of problems?
[23:46] <moymoy> gartral: i don't know.. i have that problem myself.. but i did take out all the buttons and left the location bar to make nautilus look a bit nicer
[23:46] <bruenig> StrangeCharm: just make a deb out of it
[23:46] <jrib> StrangeCharm: well I like /usr/local/ for unixy software and /opt for "other" stuff
[23:46] <gartral> !attitude | bjorkintosh
[23:47] <notRoot> I am trying to install VMware Player but, I dont know which to download. My choices are .rpm and .bundle
[23:47] <bjorkintosh> eh. i know.
[23:47] <epicreviews> edbian and bruenig, both commands failed
[23:47] <jrib> !vmware > notRoot
[23:47] <bjorkintosh> i'm terribly frustrated is all.
[23:47] <gartral> moymoy: i use the buttons daily, but these dumby bars are really getting on my nerves
[23:47] <zanberdo> hoping for some help with a problem I'm having with mail. specifically I have a server which I have configured with postfix and mailx. Postfix has been configured for local only mail, but when I send mail to myself and check it with mail I find nothing waiting. I'm not that familiar with diagnosing this (it's always just worked on other servers).
[23:47] <bruenig> epicreviews: what it say
[23:48] <epicreviews> bruenig: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove portos-archive-keyring, only the config
[23:48] <epicreviews>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[23:48] <StrangeCharm> bruenig-  that's beyond my level of expertise. also, i don't have all the 'twiddly bits' like the /etc/init.d script, or getting it to run at boot sorted yet, in fact, i was looking for somewhere to put it long-term *before* i wrote those
[23:48] <notRoot> jrib: My proff uses VMware and I need to be 100% that he will be able to run my files at the end of term
[23:49] <jrib> notRoot: I understand, was ubottu's link not helpful?  He should have sent you instructions
[23:49] <bruenig> StrangeCharm: deb is probably the hardest package format to make of any, but it is still doable
[23:49] <erUSUL> !checkinstall | StrangeCharm
[23:49] <epicreviews> bruenig, any other suggestions?
[23:50] <epicreviews> or anyone actually, I'm guessing a complete reinstall of Ubuntu will be neccessary
[23:50] <gastaufdemast> bye @ll
[23:50] <notRoot> jrib: eh... it offered alternatives but, I must use VMware. If I cant use VMware I will have to use an OS so terrible I will not speak of it
[23:50] <jrib> notRoot: ubottu also gave you a link
[23:50] <erUSUL> !vmware
[23:51] <bruenig> epicreviews: deb is fickle, I would mess around in /var to get rid of all the stuff myself
[23:51] <erUSUL> notRoot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[23:51] <bucky> epicreviews: portos-archive-keyring isn't even in the repos for jaunty.. where did you get it?
[23:51] <gartral> moymoy: I have a DAP plugged in, and when i brose the folder it mounts too, it says in these obnoxiously huge bars "These files are on a Picture CD" and "These files are on a digital audio player" the first is wrong, the second is obvious
[23:51] <gartral> sorry moymoy
[23:51] <epicreviews> bruenig, would you consider using remote control to do it for me?
[23:51] <notRoot> jrib: Ohh
[23:51] <mrwes> heh
[23:51] <spikemcc> !paste
[23:51] <jrib> epicreviews: I wouldn't recommend giving anyone on irc access to your computer
[23:52] <epicreviews> bucky, I got it from a friend, we were working on something, he encoded the .deb wrong. We all make mistakes, just trying to fix it
[23:52] <gartral> OK I have a DAP plugged in, and when i browse the folder it mounts too, it says in these obnoxiously huge bars "These files are on a Picture CD" and "These files are on a digital audio player" the first is wrong, the second is obvious heres a screen shot http://imagebin.org/56055 how do i get them to gtfa
[23:52] <epicreviews> jrib: they don't know my sudo password, so I'm good
[23:52] <Hattory> #mac
[23:52] <Hattory> sorry
[23:52] <jrib> epicreviews: in that case how would the person accomplish anything?
[23:53] <epicreviews> I would type the pass jrib... but only when it's safe to.
[23:53] <jrib> epicreviews: you're free to ignore my advice, but it's not a good idea
[23:54] <jrib> epicreviews: fwiw bruenig is a regular
[23:54] <epicreviews> jrib, it's either remote control or kill Ubuntu
[23:54] <moymoy> epicreviews: sudo rm -v /var/lib/dpkg/info/portos-archive-keyring*  .. then do the same thing here  sudo rm -v /var/cache/apt/archives/portos-archive-keyring* .. then go to synaptic and purge that program
[23:54] <fccf> epicreviews: I'd give remote a try if you like ... I am extremly fast at figuring things out
[23:55] <bruenig> moymoy is ruining my fun
[23:55] <bruenig> jrib!
[23:55] <moymoy> bruenig: lol you're sshing his computer?
[23:56] <bruenig> nah, I just ignored him when he said to remote, but still
[23:56] <epicreviews> moymoy your method failed as well
[23:56] <epicreviews> "no such file or directory"
[23:56] <moymoy> for which command?
[23:56] <bruenig> giggle
[23:56] <moymoy> epic for which command?
[23:56] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/219366/ here are xorg.conf to help me reconfigurate mine ... 1st and 2nd are for the same hardware as me, 3rd is my xorg.conf but graphic part is bugged and the last one is another hardware setup xorg.conf but with mesa open source driver to help me reconfigurate my xorg.conf with that open source driver
[23:57] <moymoy> epicreviews: for which command?
[23:57] <spikemcc> can you help me make a new xorg.conf that will work well ?
[23:57] <epicreviews> moymoy: BOTH
[23:58] <StrangeCharm> how are init.d scripts constructed?
[23:58] <bucky> StrangeCharm: with an editor
[23:58] <bruenig> StrangeCharm: vim!
[23:58] <moymoy> epicreviews: has to be in there if you installed with a deb
[23:58] <StrangeCharm> bucky-  thanks for that :p is there a ref document for their structure
[23:59] <jrib> StrangeCharm: take a look at /etc/init.d/skeleton
[23:59] <epicreviews> moymoy... remember this isn't official and it went buggy
[23:59] <bruenig> StrangeCharm: just take a look at the ones in /etc/init.d
[23:59] <bruenig> should respond to start,restart,stop
[23:59] <bruenig> maybe reload too?
[23:59] <bruenig> who knows
[23:59] <StrangeCharm> bruenig-  i obviously use xemacs, because it's a superior editor in every way :p
[23:59] <erUSUL> StrangeCharm: /etc/init.d/skeleton <<< this is an example
[23:59] <StrangeCharm> thanks jrib
[23:59]  * jrib regrets helping the heathen