[00:00] <BUGabundo> the saver one LOL
[00:00] <Sarvatt> saver?
[00:00] <BUGabundo> the x-squaters or something
[00:00] <Sarvatt> theres nothing in x-updates
[00:00] <GuidoVb> i found a duplicate bug and the person who submitted it already tried the new drivers from xorg-edgers but there was no fix for this bug
[00:00] <Sarvatt> for karmic
[00:00] <BUGabundo> *safer
[00:00] <Sarvatt> mesa is in edgers
[00:00] <Sarvatt> sorry in the middle of setting up a new pc, whats the problem?
[00:01] <Sarvatt> flickering..
[00:01] <Sarvatt> try using 2.6.31-2 GuidoVb
[00:01] <Sarvatt> theres a flickering problem in the fifo watermarking code that got added in 2.6.31-rc3 for some people
[00:02] <Sarvatt> it should be fixed by 2.6.31-4
[00:02] <GuidoVb> great info... i will wait for 2.6.31-4 i hope it won't be late to appear... now i'm using 1360x768... it's not so bad :)
[00:03] <Sarvatt> well it'll be in 2.6.31-5 if its not in -4, karmic wont stop until -9 or -10 probably.. you can just use -2 for now though to fix it
[00:05] <Sarvatt> it only hit people on certain chipsets with oddball combinations of dual channel memory running at certain speeds, but its a known problem and a fix is already out and testing
[00:06] <GuidoVb> exact, that's my configuration... :S
[00:06] <GuidoVb> thanks sarvatt, it could be helpfull to add your information in the launchpad bug
[00:07] <BUGabundo>   https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-i586-support
[00:07] <BUGabundo> is now obsolete
[00:07] <BUGabundo> so no i586 optimizations :\
[00:07] <Sarvatt> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2009-July/003378.html
[00:07] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: won't daily kernel images help GuidoVb?
[00:09] <Sarvatt> if it was in linus' tree already yeah but its not
[00:09] <Sarvatt> and those kernels arent for karmic, they're using the jaunty configs
[00:10] <Sarvatt> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel.git;a=commit;h=dff33cfcefa31c30b72c57f44586754ea9e8f3e2
[00:10] <Sarvatt> thats the fix
[00:11] <BUGabundo> yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399031
[00:11] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: really? I didn't know that
[00:11] <GuidoVb> mmm... sorry again for this newbie question.. do i have to recompile kernel to apply this fix?
[00:11] <Sarvatt> yep
[00:12] <Sarvatt> or just use 2.6.31-2 until its released
[00:12] <yofel> BUGabundo: thx
[00:13] <Sarvatt> wont be longer than a week from now until 2.6.30-4 is out
[00:13] <GuidoVb> yes, it's better... i will wait... thanks sarvatt for your help!
[00:53] <BUGabundo> congrats Q-FUNK and akgraner
[00:53] <BUGabundo> our newest ubuntu members
[00:53] <Q-FUNK> thanks!
[00:53] <akgraner> BUGabundo,  Thank you!!
[00:55] <BUGabundo> I stayed up late just for you guys :))
[00:55] <BUGabundo> now bed
[00:56] <akgraner> Thank you!!!
[00:56] <akgraner> appreciate it...
[00:57] <BUGabundo> oh no akgraner
[00:58] <BUGabundo> I am the one to appreciate all you have done
[00:58] <BUGabundo> in such a small time frame
[00:58] <BUGabundo> took me 2 years to do as much as you have done
[00:58] <charlie-tca> congrats, akgraner. Keep up the good work
[00:58]  * charlie-tca mumbles about *only* taking about 3 years
[00:59] <akgraner> charlie-tca, thank you...
[00:59] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: we are old school
[00:59] <BUGabundo> this ppl now, apply to it after 2 months
[00:59] <BUGabundo> they don't even make a full 2 cycle eheheh
[00:59] <BUGabundo> ;))
[00:59] <charlie-tca> Well, at least old ;-)
[01:00] <BUGabundo> what they do just for a t-shirt and a business card
[01:00] <BUGabundo> akgraner: ;)
[01:00] <charlie-tca> I been seeing that too. I hope they stay around afterward.
[01:00] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: speak for your self... I'm trying to keep my self bellow 30
[01:00] <Daskreech> Is there a known issue with dhclinet?
[01:00] <charlie-tca> t-shirt?
[01:00] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: don't you know what took akgraner to use Ubuntu??
[01:01]  * charlie-tca tried to keep it below 30 for a long time, then 40, then ...
[01:01] <BUGabundo> it was a darn Ubuntu t-shirt pgarner gave her
[01:01] <BUGabundo> :)))))
[01:01] <charlie-tca> That's right. I remember that now
[01:01] <charlie-tca> Maybe I should try that. Get my daughter to try this
[01:02] <akgraner> :-) our daughter is using ubuntu now as well...I gave her a shirt..:-)
[01:02] <charlie-tca> gotta be the tshirt ;-)
[01:03] <akgraner> magic in them..:-)
[01:03] <BUGabundo> now I see whre I've failed
[01:03] <BUGabundo> need to get me a few t-shirts too
[01:03] <BUGabundo> its even better then FREE CDs
[01:03] <BUGabundo> ok
[01:03] <BUGabundo> I most go
[01:03] <charlie-tca> Seems so
[01:03] <BUGabundo> or I'll not wake up for work
[01:03] <charlie-tca> later
[01:03] <BUGabundo> luv you all
[01:04]  * BUGabundo once a upon a time there was this pillow with my name on it..... bye
[01:04] <charlie-tca> good night, BUGabundo
[01:59] <Sarvatt> soo, anyone tried the karmic livecd from 07-15? cant get it to boot and dont know if its just broken
[02:05] <Sarvatt> probably doesnt like the 2 raid arrays in my htpc, just dropping me to busybox
[02:05] <GuidoVb> Hi sarvatt again, i'm not english speaker, what's the meaning of a bug with "Triaged" status?
[02:18] <Jeruvy> I believe triaged means it's ready for the package developers to fix
[02:23] <virtuald> triaged means someone is taking responsibility for fixing the bug
[02:30] <GuidoVb> me again, i'm trying to replace squid with squid3 because i want to test it (it fixes an important bug to me),  in my /etc/init.d directory i have both squid and squid3 boot scripts... how can i disable the squid one without removing the whole package?
[02:31] <SeveredCross> GuidoVb: man update-rc.d
[02:36] <GuidoVb> great!... update-rc.d squid stop? is it ok? "stop" only disables and "remove" deletes forever?
[03:30] <cdm10> is it just me, or is it impossible to shut down Karmic with the gui?
[03:31] <billybigrigger> must be just you
[03:31] <cdm10> latest updates?
[03:32] <billybigrigger> yeah
[03:32] <billybigrigger> hah
[03:32] <billybigrigger> just noticed that
[03:32] <billybigrigger> can't shutdown or restart
[03:32] <billybigrigger> haha i should look before i type :)
[03:33] <billybigrigger> tried logging out first?
[03:33] <billybigrigger> then restart or shutdown?
[03:33] <cdm10> yeah, that does work.
[03:33] <cdm10> reporting a bug :)
[03:33] <billybigrigger> do it
[03:33] <cdm10> what package should it be reported in?
[03:33] <billybigrigger> and subscribe me to it
[03:33] <billybigrigger> i would say gnome
[03:33] <cdm10> i'll figure out what executable is run when the menu item is selected
[03:33] <billybigrigger> could be gdm too i dunno
[03:33] <billybigrigger> i gotta run though
[03:33] <cdm10> also I'm going to file something against gdm, the user-selector applet in the top right should allow shutdown
[03:34] <cdm10> ok -- you're billybigrigger on lp?
[03:34] <billybigrigger> message me the bug link and i'll sub when i'm back
[03:34] <billybigrigger> yeah
[03:34] <cdm10> k
[03:34] <cdm10> i'll do my best.
[03:34] <billybigrigger> roger
[03:34] <billybigrigger> over and out
[03:35] <poseidon> How do I set grub up so that I can get it to boot me into xp?
[03:35] <poseidon> I just installed alpha 2
[03:36] <poseidon> I still have the windows partition, the installer just didn't point grub to it for some reason
[03:37] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[04:13] <DanaG> I get "failed to shut down" when shutting down from gdm/
[04:14] <DanaG> And selecting "Shut down" from System menu just immediately logs out -- no prompt.
[04:14] <DanaG> And doesn't shut down, either.
[04:14] <DanaG> !find uuid.h
[04:15] <cdm10> DanaG: I don't have those problems, just the UI weirdness... I reported the bug
[04:15] <cdm10> it's bug #400052
[04:16] <DanaG> oh yeah, I managed to add nm-applet to gdm user's session.
[04:16] <cdm10> this new gdm is scary and voodoo-ish
[04:17] <andresmujica> danag: same case here..
[04:17] <DanaG> oh yeah, I'd agree with the "voodoo-ish".
[04:18] <DanaG> GDM is in fact its own user... with its own gnome-session.
[04:18] <cdm10> I have no understanding of how it works. Not that I ever really had any understanding of how anything works, but this is especially weird.
[04:30] <DanaG> !find xbean.jar
[04:30] <DanaG> glassfish?  really?  not xmlbeans?
[04:38] <milos_> !log
[04:54] <DanaG> argh, when the heck are we going to get keycodes > 255 working?
[04:55] <DanaG> It's sometihng I've been waiting for for quite a long time.
[05:31] <Sarvatt> yay, always fun when you update and reboot and the whole desktop disappears :)
[05:34] <Sarvatt> "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gnome-session is broken or not fully installed"
[05:34] <Sarvatt> .....
[06:13] <buzzmandt> Anyone here think intel graphics driver is "slow" in the newest kernel?
[06:15] <buzzmandt> anyone here with intel graphics?
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[06:48] <bazhang> !ops | dhonie_
[07:18] <Hobbsee> oh dea..
[08:17] <zlirp2> Do we know what version PHP will be at in Karmic?
[08:25] <kklimonda> zlirp2: the one that will be uploaded before feature freeze (or after if exception is given)
[08:26] <zlirp2> Do we know what version we're at now?
[08:26] <zlirp2> I'm just hoping it will be 5.3 at the very least.
[08:26] <kklimonda> zlirp2: i.e. if you want 5.3 then you can ask what to do to help to get it in archive
[08:26] <kklimonda> right now it's 5.2.10
[08:26] <zlirp2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/394385
[08:27] <zlirp2> That looks fairly promising :)
[08:28] <zlirp2> I want to set up a dev server with 5.3, so I'm pulling down the karmic server image.
[08:28] <zlirp2> Hopefully its in there.
[08:28] <kklimonda> it isnt
[08:29] <zlirp2> Well then I'll stop downloading and just run a jaunty server and compile 5.3!
[08:29] <kklimonda> yup, for now its better idea
[08:30] <zlirp2> Its just a dev VM...I'm not too worried.  But I figured I'd run the beta if it had it.
[08:30] <zlirp2> Damn...
[08:31] <zlirp2> thanks!
[09:02] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[09:02] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2808462#p2808462
[09:04] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=fr&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-fr.org%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D2808462%23p2808462&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=
[09:04] <modder25> [03:35] <tweaker25> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2808462#p2808462
[09:07] <hifi> !ops | modder25
[09:07] <Hobbsee> sigh.
[09:07] <Hobbsee> thanks hifi
[09:07] <hifi> spamming in many channels
[09:08] <jussi01> Hobbsee: *g* was just typing that...
[09:08] <hifi> first!
[09:09] <Hobbsee> dholbach got him on the est
[09:10] <hifi> on another note google translate does a fairly good job fr->en
[09:12] <Hobbsee> tasty kline
[09:14] <ikonia> hey Hobbsee's active
[09:16] <Hobbsee> indeed
[09:16] <Hobbsee> fro time to tie, anyway
[09:36] <MrStein> is there a way to check what options were used during install ? In some log file ? In /var/log/installer I can't find such info.
[10:24] <Blizzerand> How do I update my jaunty to karmic
[10:53] <MrStein> Blizzerand: it is explained in the release notes, I believe
[10:54] <Blizzerand> Nah I am nearly finished updating lol
[10:54] <MrStein> ;-)
[10:57] <Blizzerand> * upgrading
[11:17] <sergey_> Hi there. I'm playging with yesterday 'daily-live' image and here is FF3.0.0.11 and OOo3.0. Though I know that DebianImportFreeze phase is finished at 25th June. Is there a chance to have FF3.5 and OOo3.1 in karmic?
[11:23] <yofel> sergey_: you can install 'firefox-3.5' from the repository if you want it, it should become the default soon and karmic has OOo 3.1 although the logo says 3.0
[11:24] <sergey_> yofel, ah, thank you very much. that's all I wanted to know.
[11:28] <MrStein> Anyon knows where "Network Settings" went ? (from preferences)
[11:30] <MrStein> eh, did anyone answer ?
[11:32] <yofel> MrStein: there  should be an entry for 'nm-connection-editor'
[11:33] <yofel> I use the german version so it's callled 'Netzwerkverbindungen' here
[11:33] <yofel> which would  be 'Network connections'
[12:00] <eagles0513875> morning guys
[12:02] <yofel> hi eagles0513875
[13:14] <GuidoVb> Hi! I'm testing squid3 in Karmic Alpha2, i'm trying to stop  it with /etc/init.d/squid3 stop but it doesnt work... neither restart or start
[13:15] <GuidoVb> any suggestions?
[13:31] <gnomefreak> GuidoVb: it doesnt work because it not in /etc/init.d/ other than that im not sure other than kill* and restart it yourself
[14:05] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....I'm trying to connect to a wireless router using network manager kde frontend....the problem is, I can't. but settinf things in /etc/network/interfaces, I can connect easily
[14:08] <eagles0513875> m_tadeu: its normal to just have the loop back device
[14:09] <m_tadeu> eagles0513875: I know....but it's the only way for me to be talking here, right now....
[14:09] <m_tadeu> I think network manager or the kde frontend are not handling things good
[14:09] <eagles0513875> humm you connecting to this router via wired
[14:10] <eagles0513875> there is a bug with the plasma-widget-network-manager that it doesnt like connecting to wpa encrypted connections but if yoru wire you should be fine cuz for me ti works out of the box
[14:11] <m_tadeu> yep...problem is, here is impossible to get a wired connection....do you know the status or the bug# of that report?
[14:13] <m_tadeu> ah I think I found it :)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:29] <oldude67> hello
[14:30] <eagles0513875> hey oldude67
[14:31] <oldude67> how is everyone today? got a few more updates but still no go with the new -3 kernel and my intel video..:(
[14:32] <eagles0513875> ouch :(
[14:32] <eagles0513875> not bad here recovering from jet lag
[14:33] <oldude67> ugh i hate time zones...lol
[14:33] <eagles0513875> tell me bout it
[14:33] <eagles0513875> been up since 245am central time
[14:33] <eagles0513875> im 7 hrs ahead of myself
[14:36] <oldude67> anyone know when the or how close the -4 kernel is to being released?
[15:30] <Lademord> Hi guys, I'm running karmic and today I am no longer able to synchronize my iPod with Banshee, as Banshee claims that the iPod is not mounted by HAL. I guess this has something to do with HAL being phased out?
[15:46] <ripps> Okay, something is up, I tend to get high cpu usage from mount.ntfs. Sometimes it spikes so badly it causes my computer to lock up for a period of time. What's deal?
[15:49] <ryann> ripps, are you using ext4?
[16:16] <alteregoa> high
[16:17] <pushrax> Hi.  Does anyone use Akregator here?  I wanted to know something about it's url's it forms
[16:18] <alteregoa> heh the koala should be on .31 i got usb 3
[16:21] <pushrax> Can someone answer a question on Akregator?  In my version it's sending a majority of urls through "http://feedproxy.google.com/"
[16:22] <pushrax> Personally I don't want anything to do with goggle bar maybe search from their webpage.
[17:17] <buzzmandt1> anyone here with intel graphics?
[17:18] <buzzmandt1> anyone here with intel graphics?
[17:19] <buzzmandt1> My intel graphics seem slow compared with the 30-10 kernel, anyone else seeing this?
[17:22] <itswhatev> i use xorg-edgers.. i just had a couple of freezings this morning.
[17:23] <itswhatev> i don't use 3d tho
[17:26] <buzzmandt1> I play neverwinter nights linux client and can't play it in the new kernel, very slow graphics.  just tried nexuiz and screen is jumbled and garbbled all over the place.  going to reboot into 30-10 kernel and try nexuiz
[17:29] <itswhatev> shrug.. trying to get great 3d performance off intel on linux would frustrate me enough to switch to nv
[17:30] <itswhatev> if i can just have compositing without freezing i'll be gold
[17:44] <tgpraveen2> hey now that empathy is default in karmic
[17:45] <tgpraveen2> does it work with messaging indicator?
[17:45] <tgpraveen2> and also the appending of new messages to notify-osd notifications?
[19:10] <bmw1000c_lol> ok it was the last time that i apt-get upgrade'd.
[19:10] <bmw1000c_lol> this time, gnome-panel doesn't work
[19:11] <billybigrigger> i lost my gnome-panel yesterday
[19:11] <billybigrigger> seems fixed now with updates
[19:11] <billybigrigger> for me anyway
[19:11] <bmw1000c_lol> i updated 1h ago and it broken gnome-panel
[19:11] <bmw1000c_lol> i updated one more time, let's see if it fixed
[19:12] <bmw1000c_lol> nop
[19:12] <billybigrigger> restart?
[19:12] <bmw1000c_lol> i did
[19:13] <billybigrigger> kill gnome-panel?
[19:13] <bmw1000c_lol> what's the point
[19:13] <billybigrigger> restart it?
[19:13] <billybigrigger> once you kill it, it should re-load automatically
[19:14] <bmw1000c_lol> 1 sec
[19:15] <bmw1000c_lol> killall gnome-panel
[19:15] <bmw1000c_lol> but no re-load
[19:15] <bmw1000c_lol> no automatic reload*
[19:15] <billybigrigger> then just load it
[19:15] <billybigrigger> gnome-panel
[19:16] <billybigrigger> killall worked here for me, it re-loaded on it's own
[19:16] <bmw1000c_lol> hmm alt f2 does nothing
[19:17] <Pici> alt-f2 is powered by gnome-panel, so if its not running, it cant be used.
[19:17] <billybigrigger> run it from a terminal?
[19:17] <bmw1000c_lol> oh, so how can i open gnome-panel
[19:17] <billybigrigger> $ gnome-panel
[19:18] <bmw1000c_lol> how do i open a terminal
[19:18] <billybigrigger> well i thought thats how you ran killall gnome-panle
[19:18] <billybigrigger> panel
[19:18] <yofel> bmw1000c_lol: rightlick on desktop-> create starter -> open gnome-panel
[19:18] <billybigrigger> but apparently, you use'd alt f2
[19:18] <bmw1000c_lol> if i use ctrl alt f1 to open gnome-panel, it says "cannot open display"
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> and that's how i killed it
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> thanks yofel
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> but that doesn't seem to work too
[19:19] <bmw1000c_lol> when i click create starter, screen just flickers and nothing happens
[19:19] <billybigrigger> ctrl-alt-f1 drops you to a term, with no x
[19:20] <billybigrigger> this is why i use a terminal in x, not alt-f2 :P
[19:20] <billybigrigger> ctrl-alt-f
[19:20] <billybigrigger> 1
[19:21] <billybigrigger> drop to your terminal, login
[19:21] <billybigrigger> $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:21] <billybigrigger> log back into x
[19:21] <bmw1000c_lol> yeah man i wish i could open a terminal too eheh
[19:21] <bmw1000c_lol> let me try that
[19:22] <eagles0513875> hey guys :)
[19:22] <billybigrigger> howdy eagles0513875
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> billybigrigger not working
[19:23] <eagles0513875> how goes it
[19:23] <billybigrigger> what isn't working?
[19:23] <Twigathy> ack...what's the name of the program which configures what happens when you plug in a USB stick or put a DVD in the the DVD drive?
[19:23] <billybigrigger> restarting gdm?
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> it restarted
[19:23] <Twigathy> I don't use gnome, and it's not on any of my xfce menus ...
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> but gnome-panel doesnt work yet
[19:23] <billybigrigger> bmw1000c_lol, your back in x?
[19:23] <bmw1000c_lol> yes
[19:24] <billybigrigger> go back to terminal $ sudo reboot now
[19:24] <JamalFanaian> Hi, I was thinking about installing karmic but I wanted to ask before I did that. Are there any issues with the fgrlx drivers?
[19:24] <billybigrigger> try it again
[19:24] <billybigrigger> somethings messed up
[19:24] <bmw1000c_lol> i restarted like 5 times or something
[19:24] <bmw1000c_lol> never happened before last update
[19:25] <o_portista17> hy, i have a problem with teamspeakm my microfone starts to work, but then, it stops, and on the "dmesg" i have the following error: http://pastebin.com/m50b2e6f4
[19:25] <billybigrigger> well all i can tell you is that i had that problem, and i just waited for new updates, then updated, restarted and it's fixed for me
[19:25] <bmw1000c_lol> where can i see the last update list?
[19:29] <itswhatev> seems as though not using xrandr for multi display fixes my intel freezes
[19:29] <hrab> Has anyone messed with grub2 and kubuntu 9.10 in here by any chance?
[19:44] <bmw1000c_lol> bug #400366
[19:44] <bmw1000c_lol> oh yeah
[19:54] <DanaG> JamalFanaian: yeah, there are some issues with fglrx... you have to patch the thing in /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/8.620/source/
[19:54] <DanaG> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17731&page=21
[19:54] <DanaG> patch is there, by Kano.
[19:55] <JamalFanaian> DanaG: ahh thanks :)
[20:01] <maco> anyone have a db already setup in OOo Base?
[20:01] <maco> i made one last week and now when i start Base, it has "Recently used" all greyed-out
[21:08] <iPoRn> hello, im trying to use TeamSpeak, but i have a big problem, my microphone works, when i open TeamSpeak, but in less then a minute, the microphone stops to work..here's my dmesg with the error, that i can't understand: http://pastebin.com/m50b2e6f4
[21:21] <gletob> Hey I just upgraded to karmic and seem to be missing the Login Window option in Settings
[21:21] <SeveredCross> It's gone--gdm 2.26 does away with it.
[21:21] <SeveredCross> There's a way to change them, but I don't know how.
[21:22] <gletob> SeveredCross, Does away with themes and such?
[21:23] <gletob> Or just the method that the Login Window app managed GDM?
[21:24] <SeveredCross> It respects your gnome theme.
[21:24] <SeveredCross> I believe anyway.
[21:24] <gletob> That sucks.
[21:25] <gletob> I'm going to see if changing themes changes GDM.
[21:26] <gletob> Not from switching user maybe if I restart GDM...
[21:29] <billybigrigger> no
[21:29] <billybigrigger> changing themes does not affect gdm
[21:29] <billybigrigger> you have to use gconf to edit gdm iirc
[21:30] <gletob> Nope that didn't work either
[21:38] <DanaG> ugh, what the heck?   when I hold my volume-down key... my MUTE LED lights up.
[21:38] <DanaG> That's wrong.
[21:38] <DanaG> Minimum volume is NOT the same as asserting the MUTE pin.
[21:39] <yofel> DanaG: wasn't that to enforce power saving in alsa by turning the card off when on 0 volume?
[21:40] <yofel> hi BUGabundo
[21:40] <DanaG> Well, it's annoying -- I have a hardware mute LED that goes orange when that happens.
[21:41] <kklimonda> DanaG: when you set volume to 0 isn't it effectively muted anyway?
[21:41] <DanaG> It's still not the same.
[21:42] <kklimonda> why? I ask from user's perspective
[21:42] <DanaG> Because of the LED.
[21:42] <DanaG> I don't like holding the volume-down key and then having it go orange.
[21:42] <DanaG> It doesn't do that in Windows.
[21:43] <DanaG> OS X doesn't do that, either.
[21:43] <kklimonda> DanaG: but if you go all the way down to 0 sound is effectively muted so why shouldn't led indicate that?
[21:43] <DanaG> Well, I've seen some radios where minimum volume is NOT mute, for example.
[21:44] <DanaG> I want MUTE to be a separate action from VOLUME.
[21:44] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/25513
[21:44] <DanaG> For me, that's actually the way it SHOULD be.
[21:44] <kklimonda> (I don't hear anything as soon as I set my volume to 50% but that's another issue ;) )
[21:45] <SeveredCross> kklimonda: PulseAudio's volume leveling is *horribly* broken.
[21:45] <SeveredCross> I think that's the fault of flat volumes.
[21:45] <BUGabundo> hey hey hey. duug gnineve
[21:45] <BUGabundo> who dare calls my name?
[21:45] <DanaG> I've already turned off flat volumes.
[21:45] <DanaG> Flat volumes are horribly, horribly confusing.
[21:45] <BUGabundo> hey yofel kklimonda DanaG SeveredCross
[21:45] <DanaG> Worst audio "feature" ever.
[21:46] <yofel> BUGabundo: me me:P
[21:46] <BUGabundo> so what hot today, beside me that is!
[21:46] <BUGabundo> hey akgraner!
[21:46] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo
[21:46] <BUGabundo> still no irc cloak girl?
[21:46] <DanaG> Or at the very least, they should make a GCONF setting.
[21:46] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: miss speaking with you! busy?
[21:46] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: tired.. :)
[21:46] <akgraner> hey BUGabundo :-)
[21:47] <SeveredCross> DanaG: Yeah, they're terrible--they make my volume totally not representative of the actual output volume.
[21:47] <SeveredCross> Though, that said, I don't use PulseAUdio volume, because it doesn't have my LFE channel,
[21:48] <DanaG> Picture having a knob for brightness and a switch for power... turning the knob all the way to the left should NOT make the switch suddenly, magically toggle.
[21:48] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: join the boat
[21:49] <DanaG> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=180942
[21:49] <DanaG> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333438
[21:51] <DanaG> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164925
[21:51] <kklimonda> DanaG: ok, I can see a point now
[21:51] <DanaG> Bonus points for the LED.
[21:52] <DanaG> It also reminds me of that horrid blink-on-network-traffic misfeature that appeared in iwl3945 and iwlagn a while ago.
[21:52] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: heh - if it wasn't for this weather I wouldn't feel like s^%$.. :/
[21:52] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: nice weather here
[21:52] <yofel> DanaG: blink on network traffic is how it's supposed to work...
[21:53] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: for last few days we have a "prestormy" weather - hot and stuffy..
[21:53] <DanaG> yeah, but it's godawful annoying.
[21:53] <DanaG> seeing BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE BLUE ORANGE
[21:53] <yofel> DanaG: I know :P
[21:53] <DanaG> *ORANGE*   *BLUE*   *ORANGE*
[21:54] <kklimonda> ya, I couldn't get used to it for few days..
[21:54] <DanaG> Anyway, I found out how to kill that misfeature.
[21:54] <kklimonda> and mine led only blink green ;)
[21:54] <DanaG> http://blog.crossedstreams.com/?p=12
[21:54] <DanaG> Mine has orange for wifi-off and blue for wifi-on.
[21:55] <DanaG> http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/2008052101-iwlwifi-blinking.html
[21:55] <DanaG> better fix.
[21:56] <BUGabundo> only my disk blue led blinks
[21:56] <BUGabundo> I don't even see it
[21:56] <yofel> Ahh, when we're already talking about annoying, the battery status of my eeePC 1000H is annoying: 100%-80%: green 80%-10%: *blink* green slowly 10%-0%: *blink* green fast
[21:56] <yofel> why should it blink at 80% charged ?!?
[21:57] <DanaG> I have a rather nifty secondary ORANGE hard-drive LED.
[21:57] <DanaG> Software-driven.  I have the disk-park thingy use that to show... disk parked.
[21:57] <yofel> hehe
[21:59] <BUGabundo> anyone complaingin from livecd?
[21:59] <BUGabundo> I still have one from Sunday that I know works
[21:59] <DanaG> Now, if only PA had the feature Win7 has: not only does it drop back when a device is removed... it also re-switches when default device is re-added.
[21:59] <BUGabundo> gonna put it on usb to reinstall
[21:59] <DanaG> Wish PA would do that.  Unplug USB headset, audio move to onboard... replug headset... IT MOVES BACK.
[21:59] <DanaG> PA doesn't do that.
[22:00] <BUGabundo> DanaG: it will once the promised HW and app profiles are ready
[22:06] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/399531
[22:07] <DanaG> yay,.
[22:08] <BUGabundo> I need that one
[22:08] <BUGabundo> it sucks!
[22:08] <BUGabundo> I always press the power button to enter the menu
[22:08] <BUGabundo> now it gets log out :(
[22:08] <BUGabundo> darn new GDM
[22:09] <dupondje> any eta on the fast-user-switching app ?
[22:10] <DanaG> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1583561.html
[22:10] <DanaG> interesting.
[22:10] <DanaG> Try reading the bug report itself.
[22:12] <DanaG> oh yeah, and try holding volume-down ... and you'll see notify-osd suck rather miserably.
[22:13] <BUGabundo> let me see
[22:13] <BUGabundo> other then a few blinks looks ok
[22:13] <DanaG> Look at your CPU usage.
[22:13] <DanaG> And hold it for a while, it'll flicker annoyingly.
[22:14] <DanaG> Not an ordinary blink... it's more like FLickErFlickERflICkerFLiCker
[22:14] <yofel> DanaG: Confirmed, not that it changes anything on the fact that notify-osd sucks :P
[22:15] <BUGabundo> eheheheh
[22:16] <DanaG> Now, if only I could get working keycodes > 255!
[22:19] <Sarvatt> man, network manager .8  no likey tethering
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: no??
[22:22] <BUGabundo> it should
[22:22] <BUGabundo> I did some small testing and it worked for me
[22:22] <DanaG> It also doesn't allow "Available to all users"
[22:22] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: please let asac know
[22:22] <BUGabundo> yeah htat I've reported
[22:22] <Sarvatt> i think thats why i had problems, my old networks were saved without clicking that before
[22:23] <BUGabundo> yeah me too
[22:23] <BUGabundo> it was great
[22:23] <BUGabundo> wifi, 3g connected even before I logedin
[22:23] <Sarvatt> i share the 3g over wifi but i didnt save the wep key to my keychain before
[22:24] <Sarvatt> and theres 2 wep modes that make no sense
[22:24] <Sarvatt> WEP 40/128 bit and WEP 128 bit
[22:27] <BUGabundo> took me 1y to find out that NM was able to share wifi
[22:27] <BUGabundo> :(((
[22:27] <BUGabundo> I mean, share 3G over wifi
[22:30] <Sarvatt> i just do it through iptables and dnsmasq on my phone, just got done setting up a karmic install on it lol
[22:32] <BUGabundo> yeah dtchen told me that once!
[22:32] <BUGabundo> too much work! I need a ONE click way
[22:32] <BUGabundo> aha
[23:02] <billybigrigger_> Sarvatt: what phone?
[23:02] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger mobile phone
[23:03] <BUGabundo> to teherir with laptop
[23:03] <BUGabundo> darn hard word
[23:03] <billybigrigger_> what phone did you install karmic on?
[23:04] <Sarvatt> G1
[23:04] <billybigrigger_> who makes it?
[23:04] <Sarvatt> htc dream, t-mobile
[23:05] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOLOL
[23:05]  * BUGabundo offers two cups of BLACK coffee to billybigrigger
[23:05] <BUGabundo> wake up dude
[23:05] <Sarvatt> the android phone
[23:09] <billybigrigger_> oh
[23:09] <billybigrigger_> ya thanks for the coffee
[23:09] <billybigrigger_> 4pm here :P
[23:10] <billybigrigger_> htc dream, ahh don't get that here in canada
[23:11] <BUGabundo> still waiting for it here
[23:11] <BUGabundo> some ppl already got it
[23:11] <BUGabundo> not sure if I go for G3 or pre
[23:11] <billybigrigger_> oh i can get it with rogers
[23:12] <billybigrigger_> $149.99 on 3 yr contract
[23:12] <billybigrigger_> 99.99 my bad
[23:13] <Sarvatt> both are good phones, i like linux phones :)
[23:13] <BUGabundo> that's cheap billybigrigger
[23:13] <Sarvatt> theres a G2 coming out soon, (htc hero) probably can get the G1 cheap soon
[23:14] <billybigrigger_> Sarvatt: how does ubuntu run on it?
[23:14] <ryann> i want the touch pro 2 :(
[23:15] <BUGabundo> G2 is already out
[23:15] <BUGabundo> G3 will be soon
[23:15] <BUGabundo> in two months or so
[23:15] <billybigrigger_> must be a custom build of ubuntu for the g1 eh?
[23:15] <Sarvatt> nope its called debootstrap + chroot :)