[01:04]  * BUGabundo once a upon a time there was this pillow with my name on it..... bye
[07:21] <thekorn> good morning bugsquad, happy hug day!
[07:59] <dholbach> good morning
[08:19] <mvo> good morning seb128
[08:19] <seb128> hey mvo
[08:34] <daycreature> Can someone give me an explanation for why < Bug #399988 > was "Changed in Ubuntu-bots: status: New => Invalid
[08:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399988 in ubuntu "Downloading Torrents Causes WiFi Crash (must restart)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399988
[08:35] <daycreature> Does this classification mean that this bug will not be looked at, and I will not be able to achieve torrent downloads with ubuntu?
[08:36] <seb128> daycreature, probably because it was assigned on the wrong component?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> daycreature: IIRC, ubuntu-bots refer to ubotu / ubot4 / and similar hee in the ubuntu irc channels.  They don't have anything to do with torrenting, so the bug is invalid
[08:44] <Hobbsee> (fo there)
[08:44] <seb128> hey Hobbsee
[08:44] <Hobbsee> hey seb128!
[08:44] <seb128> how are you?
[08:45] <Hobbsee> pretty good.  Looking fowad to a keyboad that woks again!
[08:46] <seb128> yours seems to be skipping some "r"? ;-)
[08:47] <Hobbsee> and m and c
[08:47] <Hobbsee> made the mistake of cleaning out the keyboad
[08:47] <Hobbsee> r's the wost
[09:02] <daycreature> but I can't torrent because of an ubuntu bug
[09:02] <daycreature> how is that invalid
[09:02] <daycreature> is not the goal to address bugs?
[09:03] <seb128> the bug tracker is to describe technical issues
[09:03] <seb128> try the answer tracker if you don't know what you are doing
[09:04] <Flannel> daycreature: Your bug was marked invalid because you filed it against the bots in the channel.  Your bug isn't about the bots, its about wifi.
[09:06] <daycreature> so then if I resubmit to the correct channel it will be addressed?
[09:06] <daycreature> can you link me to the bug submission page?
[11:13] <alourie> hello
[11:50] <gnomefreak> how do we remove personal info from a crash report on bugs?
[12:07] <jpds> gnomefreak: File a question against Launchpad asking for it to be removed?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> jpds: ok im just wondering why apport didnt do it :)
[13:45] <torkiano> hello, Can someone mark as invalid affected project Epiphany here? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-webkit/+bug/399969
[13:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399969 in epiphany-webkit "Crash when reading gmail email" [Undecided,New]
[13:51] <pedro_> torkiano, hola, looking at it
[13:53] <andresmujica> hola pedro, hola torkiano.. i've marked invalid the wrong one :/ corrected now thou...
[13:54] <torkiano> pedro_, andresmujica thank you!
[13:54] <torkiano> also, the default packase for epiphany-webkit is wrong too
[13:54] <torkiano> sorry, my fault
[13:55] <andresmujica> wasn't sure about it..  :) np
[13:59] <torkiano> aldo, I see that a los of bugs agains Epiphany are about epiphany-browser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/epiphany/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed&field.status=Fix+Released&field.status=Invalid&field.status=Won't+Fix&field.omit_dupes.used=
[14:10] <torkiano> see https://launchpad.net/epiphany, epiphany-webkit is not the package for epiphany
[14:12] <torkiano> I've already fixed the problem :)
[14:13] <Cinch123> Hello. I have a bug using Ubuntu through NoMachine NX. Is this the right place for me?
[14:15] <kklimonda> Cinch123: not really, this channel is primarily for triaging existing bugs.. but you can ask and maybe someone will point you in the right direction.
[14:16] <Cinch123> Ok... basically the button on the right of the top panel in Gnome that allows you to log off, switch users, and change your Pidgin status doesn't show up when I'm connected in through NX.
[14:16] <Cinch123> I have to log off through the System menu.
[14:28] <pedro_> folks remember that we're having a hug day based on synaptic today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090716 there's still a lot of bugs waiting to be squashed
[14:46] <gnomefreak> mvo: you updated grub2 as i recall from changes mail in karmic. now im being asked to chose a hard drive (i have 2) for the question GRUB install devices:  how do i leave it the same as it was?
[14:47] <gnomefreak> grub is kind of important IMO mess it up cant boot
[14:47] <mvo> gnomefreak: just press ok
[14:48] <mvo> gnomefreak: you have a debconf priority of medium?
[14:49] <mvo> gnomefreak: it should not ask on the default debconf level (high) :)
[14:52] <gnomefreak> mvo: im not sure about debconf priority
[14:52]  * gnomefreak goes to look for it
[15:00] <gnomefreak> mvo: i cant find the file that has priority levels
[15:05] <bddebian> Boo
[15:06] <gnomefreak> mvo: looks like im using high from what dpkg-reconfigure says
[15:06] <gnomefreak> bddebian: morning
[15:08] <bddebian> Hello gnomefreak
[16:13] <jercos> BUG RIGHTS!
[16:13] <jercos> Bugs have the same right to life as any of you!
[16:14] <jercos> Who do you think you are, killing off these poor glitches?
[16:14] <jercos> You may have created them, but does that give you the right to destroy them before they have had a chance to see what life truly means?
[16:14] <jercos> When was the last time you saw a bug live long enough to smile, or crawl?
[16:15] <jercos> No, the moment they are found someone is at work killing them off!
[16:15] <jercos> It's so immoral. :(
[16:16] <yofel> lol
[16:16] <yofel> now I'm feeling like a grim reaper :P
[16:16]  * Hobbsee blinks
[16:17] <Hobbsee> okay?
[16:17] <jercos> Not okay! didn't you read that?
[16:17]  * Hobbsee thinks that tonight is just a night of weid discoveries
[16:17]  * yofel thinks that too...
[16:19]  * jercos wonders if people will listen if he too uses CTCP ACTION
[17:08] <danbhfive> how can I report a bug in my wireless?  it has lots of trouble connecting (it connects easily if I 'coax' it) , but dmesg only reports time outs.  Are there other forms of info that I can look at?
[17:18] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager might be helpful
[17:20] <danbhfive> thanks, ill take a look
[17:24] <Lademord> Hi. Who should I assign bug 399877 to?
[17:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399877 in ubuntu "Unable to mount 80GB iPod with nautilus" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399877
[17:24] <Lademord> I don't suppose there is an 'iPod team'? :)
[17:28] <pedro_> Lademord: which kind of filesystem is the ipod using?
[17:28] <pedro_> Lademord: there's a known issue about hfs and ipods
[17:29] <pedro_> Lademord: and as the error message state, it's useful to have the dmesg there :-)
[17:38] <kklimonda> bdmurray: "<kklimonda> heh, another reason why the new update notification system need serious tweaking? Was package urgency considered as another factor that change notification delay? is it even possible to use it like that?" - that's my question from -desktop channel.
[17:40] <kklimonda> bdmurray: recently an update to ubuntuone-client has borked parts of nautilus (for example access to computer:/// and network shares) and apparently we are still getting bug duplicates on LP because for some people update dialog hasn't popped up yet.
[17:40] <kklimonda> ok, it's not a question to you but to whole channel (I've assumed you are just most likely to know something about it)
[17:41] <bdmurray> How and where is package urgency defined?  Are these apport-crash duplicates?
[17:41] <Lademord> pedro_ filesystem? Ehm... it's the default one I guess - the one
[17:42] <Lademord> how do I check?
[17:43] <pedro_> Lademord: with the information asked previously ;-)
[17:43] <Lademord> pedro_ dmesg gives this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/219910/
[17:45] <pedro_> Lademord: it's a vfat formated one, could you run fsck on it and see if that fixes the issue?
[17:45] <pedro_> Lademord: btw please add that information to the report
[17:45] <Lademord> pedro_ eh.. how do I do that?
[17:45] <Lademord> Added
[17:47] <kklimonda> bdmurray: most of them were reported manually as apport is disabled in JJ (and KK probably?). urgency is defined in debian changelog and .changes file
[17:48] <Lademord> pedro_ how do I fsck the iPod?
[17:51] <pedro_> Lademord: something like: fsck -a -V -t vfat /dev/sdX should do the trick
[17:51] <pedro_> Lademord: then try to mount it manually and see if it's work or not
[17:51] <kklimonda> bdmurray: But I don't think it's downloaded in any form by systems during update so there is no (easy) way to use it :/ Ok, no question then (but I still like the idea itself..) :)
[17:52] <pedro_> Lademord: if it doesn't then you can probably reassign the package to linux
[17:52] <Lademord> pedro_ I get permission denied when trying without sudo, and when trying with sudo I get "Too many clusters (4884357) for FAT16 filesystem.
[17:52] <Lademord> "
[17:53] <bdmurray> kklimonda: well the changelog could be downloaded independently perhaps and that read but the urgency is rarely used aiui
[17:58] <Lademord> pedro_ ?
[17:59] <pedro_> Lademord: make sure to use the right device there
[18:00] <kklimonda> bdmurray: probably because there is no reason to use it most of the time as it's only used by builders and the rest of the infrastructure aiui
[18:00] <Lademord> well.. dmesg was talking about sdc so I used sdc.
[18:00] <Lademord> How do I know if that is the right one, then?
[18:01] <maxb> For Debian, urgency is a hint for how quickly the package should migrate to testing. For Ubuntu, it's a hint for how to prioritize builds - and that's all it's used for afaik
[18:01]  * pedro_ -> lunch
[19:50] <yofel> what is somebody supposed to do with bugs that were hugged but the triager didn't update the bugday page to show this?
[19:51] <pedro_> yofel: update the page with the triager lp id :-)
[19:52] <yofel> ok, will do that then :)
[19:52] <pedro_> thanks you ;-)
[19:54] <bdmurray> dtchen: at one point in time you'd answered question 70042 for me and after upgrading to karmic I only have sound from 2 speakers again
[19:56] <scifly> Can someone from BugControl have a look at #391326 (from hugday) and change its status to wishlist, please?
[19:58] <yofel> bug 391326
[19:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 391326 in synaptic "Synaptic: should be able to filter packages for different sources" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391326
[20:03] <pedro_> scifly: done, thanks for helping ;-)
[20:03] <scifly> pedro_:  Thank you
[20:13] <yofel> could somebody set bug 385909 to whishlist plz?
[20:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 385909 in synaptic "Icon should be SVG" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385909
[20:19] <hggdh_> yofel: done
[20:21] <yofel> hggdh_: thx
[20:26] <scifly> Question: bug 216426 is down with hugday as a bug with patch, its status is Fix Committed though, and the source in Jaunty has been corrected.  Does anything need to be done to this bug for it to be 'hugged'?
[20:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 216426 in synaptic "Misspelling isalready" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216426
[20:33] <Treenaks> Hello, can anyone else reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/399840 ?
[20:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399840 in brasero "Brasero can't find CD drives anymore" [Undecided,New]
[20:33] <Treenaks> (or am I the only one unable to see CD drives in Brasero or rip CDs using sound-juicer)
[20:34] <yofel> pedro_: why did you assign bug 372385 to cheese? the dependency comes from gnome-desktop-environment which would be 'meta-gnome2' (also you didn't update the bugday page :P)
[20:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 372385 in cheese "gnome desktop depends on cheese" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372385
[20:34] <Treenaks> (s-j uses libbrasero-media)
[20:35] <pedro_> yofel: thought i've assigned it to meta-gnome2, assigning it back now
[20:37] <hggdh_> ubot4: 216426 is not an issue on Karmic anymore (the text now says "Another synaptic is running. Trying to bring it to the foreground"
[20:38] <hggdh_> so one thing that can be done is to look at the code for Jaunty, and check it is fixed there
[20:38] <yofel> hggdh_: now you also start talking to bots? :P
[20:38] <hggdh_> yofel: to my shame, yes
[20:39] <hggdh_> scifly: ^^
[20:39] <scifly> hggdh_: I checked the source on jaunty and the strin g is correct.
[20:39] <hggdh_> scifly: please add a comment stating that, and I will close fix released
[20:39] <hggdh_> (and you get the merit)
[20:39] <scifly> Thnx
[20:45] <hggdh_> scifly: done, and thank you
[20:57] <scifly> Another Question!: What should the status be of bugs that have been made Wishlist?  Should they remain New or do they get to be Confirmed or something else?  I have seen several bugs on the synaptic bugday that are already set to wishlist  some New and some Confirmed, presumably there is nothing I can do to 'hug' them?
[21:47] <BUGabundo> hey hey hey. duug gnineve
[21:49] <BUGabundo> hey gnomefreak
[21:50] <yofel> hm, still not even one 'confirmed' bug has been hugged...
[21:53] <micahg> yofel: I did some new ones last night
[21:54] <yofel> well, the 'new' and 'incomplete' list is getting greener and greener, just 'confirmed' is still pure white
[21:57] <micahg> I'd consider this pretty good, it looks like over 100 bugs have been hugged
[22:45] <micahg> I don't know if it's the hugday or what, but we closed about 200 bugs today in Ubuntu from the open status
[22:45] <micahg> back under 661k
[22:45] <micahg> 61k open
[22:46] <BUGabundo> eeh
[22:46] <BUGabundo> and that's good?
[22:47] <micahg> I like when big numbers get passed going down :)
[23:31] <kakemann> can someone set bug 398304 and bug 399617 to importance wishlist?
[23:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 398304 in audacious "please merge audacious 2.1-1(universe) from debian unstable(main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398304
[23:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399617 in audacious-plugins "Please merge audacious-plugins 2.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399617