| ara | good morning! | 07:02 |
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| ara | buenos días jcollado | 07:31 |
| jcollado | ara: Buenos días | 07:32 |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| === mvo__ is now known as mvo | ||
| davmor2 | fader_: how's things mucka | 16:46 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Can't complain but I still do :) | 16:50 |
| davmor2 | fader_: You complain are you sure your not a new yorker? | 16:51 |
| fader_ | Heh, nah, it's more common across the States than just NY :) | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | I know but they are nearly as famous for it as you right ;) | 16:52 |
| fader_ | davmor2: How's life treating you these days? | 17:04 |
| davmor2 | fader_: Just bust enough at the moment :) | 17:05 |
| fader_ | davmor2: I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. | 17:08 |
| davmor2 | Bad thing for next week :) | 17:08 |
| fader_ | :( | 17:12 |
| === pace_t_zulu is now known as pace_t_zulu|afk | ||
| davmor2_ | fader_: note board adium theme in empathy is weird but it makes it really obvious as to who says what :) | 20:37 |
| davmor2_ | oh and metalsolid is nice too :) | 20:38 |
| fader_ | davmor2_ (davmor2): You'll have to send me some screenshots :) | 20:38 |
| === pace_t_zulu|afk is now known as pace_t_zulu | ||
| davmor2 | fader_: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/empathy-nb.png and http://www.davmor2.co.uk/empathy-mb2.png | 20:45 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Wow. I'm genuinely not sure how I feel about that. | 20:46 |
| davmor2 | fader_: there are others too :) | 20:46 |
| davmor2 | I just pick the first 2 that were listed as working fully :) | 20:47 |
| * fader_ is apparently too text-oriented to be a digital native. | 20:47 | |
| davmor2 | fader_: http://live.gnome.org/Empathy/Themes just click through I'm sure there are some that even you would like :) | 20:51 |
| fader_ | cr3: Style question... should checkbox tests output text only when they fail, or is it useful to see specifics about what passed as well? | 21:05 |
| fader_ | And do you look for that on stdout or stderr? | 21:06 |
| davmor2 | fader_: you might like this http://www.adiumxtras.com/images/pictures/paraphernalia_5_3324_5493_image_7836.png | 21:07 |
| fader_ | davmor2: It'd be better without the background image :) | 21:08 |
| davmor2 | just select a black background ;) | 21:08 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Do you have any machines with CRTs instead of/in addition to LCDs? | 21:14 |
| davmor2 | no I don't have the space :( I think I still have a crt down in the shed somewhere though why? | 21:15 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Meh, no big deal. I am writing a checkbox test to cycle through all the detected video modes on a system and wanted someone to run 'xrandr -q' on a machine with a CRT to validate my assumptions as to how xrandr works | 21:17 |
| fader_ | Not a huge deal as I'm pretty sure I'm right. :) | 21:17 |
| * fader_ is never worng. | 21:17 | |
| fader_ | I have a CRT buried somewhere in my nigh-infinite junk that I can hook up if I don't find anyone who has one handy. | 21:18 |
| davmor2 | fader_: try the xubuntu channel :) | 21:19 |
| fader_ | (That said, if anyone lurking has a CRT and is willing to send me the output of 'xrandr -q' or better yet try my script, please let me know :) ) | 21:19 |
| sbeattie | fader_: in what context? | 21:19 |
| sbeattie | although... my crt I have probably predates edid. | 21:20 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Hmm, I'm not sure what we'd see on a pre-edid monitor. | 21:20 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: It'd be valuable enough I think that if you have it hooked up right now I would whine at you to run xrandr, but probably not worth dragging it up from storage or something | 21:21 |
| sbeattie | distro matter? | 21:21 |
| fader_ | Not at all... this should be standard vanilla X stuff | 21:22 |
| fader_ | just the output from "xrandr -q" will tell me if I'm on track | 21:22 |
| * sbeattie snickers at fader_'s misguided naivate when it comes to X. :-) | 21:22 | |
| fader_ | Heh | 21:22 |
| cr3 | fader_: if the script passed, checkbox captures stdout and, if there's none, stderr. if the script failed, checkbox only captures stderr. | 21:23 |
| fader_ | Nah, I remember the Good Old Days. I spent about a week setting up Slackware from a stack of floppies taller than I was and running console-based modeline calculators from the values in the back of my monitor manual. | 21:23 |
| fader_ | I don't miss the Good Old Days :) | 21:23 |
| fader_ | cr3: Excellent, thank you. I'll output errors to stderr and successes to stdout. | 21:24 |
| fader_ | (Sorta what I expected.) | 21:24 |
| cr3 | fader_: if it's what you expected, that's a good sign. pleased to hear it | 21:25 |
| davmor2_ | fadeer | 21:26 |
| fader_ | cr3: Well, I was mostly interested in whether I should be unixy and silent on success or if it's okay to add additional info... stderr/stdout I just assumed. | 21:26 |
| davmor2_ | fader_: even meh need typing lessons | 21:26 |
| fader_ | heh | 21:26 |
| davmor2_ | what are you expecting from a crt that you don't get from an lcd or visa versa | 21:26 |
| sbeattie | fader_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220044/ | 21:27 |
| fader_ | sbeattie: Perfect, that's exactly what I expected. Thanks! | 21:27 |
| davmor2_ | fader_: but that isn't much different from what I get on my lcd. Was it just a is it the same query? | 21:32 |
| fader_ | davmor2_: It is the same format of output. I basically wanted to make sure that (a) CRTs still got listed as being 'connected' rather than being some other state, as I wasn't sure you could detect connectivity for VGA; and (b) that modes were still given as unique values rather than ranges, as with CRTs you can do weird nonstandard modes | 21:34 |
| fader_ | I figured that the format would be the same but it doesn't hurt to check. | 21:34 |
| davmor2_ | fader_: All my lcd's are connected via vga | 21:36 |
| fader_ | davmor2_: The discrete/range mode question was still valid though. :) | 21:37 |
| davmor2 | true :) | 21:37 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: do you have an msn account? | 22:40 |
| davmor2 | or you fader_? | 22:41 |
| fader_ | davmor2: No, sorry | 22:41 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: I do, immunix@hotmail.com | 22:41 |
| davmor2_ | sbeattie: are you logged on? | 22:44 |
| sbeattie | I should be, but through bitlbee which is not always entirely protocol compliant. Lemme fire up pidgin. | 22:45 |
| sbeattie | davmor2_: I'm pidginified now. | 22:46 |
| davmor2_ | that seems okay but I'll try again tomorrow if your around with just a default install | 22:54 |
| === fader_ is now known as fader|away | ||
| davmor2_ | sbeattie: this seems relatively stable to be honest but I will try tomorrow on fresh install to find out whether it's haze or butterfly that is the issue | 23:04 |
| sbeattie | davmor2_: sure thing. | 23:09 |
| davmor2 | no probs then I think I'm going to call it a night then bye | 23:11 |
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