=== Odin is now known as Guest62025 [02:24] Hi..I am installing straight xubuntu on an old windows xp machine with 20G Hard Drive. I want to delete all old partitions and create new ones... [02:26] I selected manual partition...and want to create one for OS, and at least one for data...do I also need one for programs or will I use my OS partition for that [02:26] any help is appreciated... [02:27] psuboy: with only 20G I would just let the install do the work...there isn't enough space there to have separate partitions for / and /home [02:28] OK...so just do one partition for the whole deal...that is easier :-)... [02:28] what about a 40G drive... [02:28] I set up another machine...my first one with just one drive on that [02:28] any thoughts? [02:29] psuboy: you will need a swap partition...but it should only be about 1.5 times ram, and the install will se tit up for you [02:29] psuboy: with a 40G I would make 15G for / and the rest for /home [02:30] if I do advanced do I need to create my own swap also? [02:30] psuboy: although you could probably get away with 10G for / [02:30] manual/ (advanced) [02:30] psuboy: yes...if you do manual you need to set aside something for swap [02:30] do I call it /swap [02:31] or does it need a specific name? [02:31] psuboy, swap is not going to be formatted, it's a type of "filesystem" [02:31] psuboy: ...sorry...got dropped. === Odin is now known as Guest48914 [02:31] ok... [02:32] so I was asking about swap...knome is telling me that I do not need to format for swap ...I ma not sure I fully understand..is it going to b part of / [02:33] psuboy: no...swap is just a small section set aside...and it isn't formatted...it is just swap [02:33] psuboy: you mark it as swap and the install takes care of the rest. === Guest48914 is now known as th0r [02:34] finally...nickserv has it right [02:34] is it part of the process after I name my partitions? [02:35] psuboy: yes and no...you don't ever access swap, it is used by the system. You don't format it, or write to it, and there isn't anything there for you to read either [02:36] psuboy: swap is used like an extension of ram on systems with small amounts of memory. When the memory starts to fill up, the system moves less used things onto the hard drive (swap) until they are needed. [02:36] OK..So the install will just create it for me as part of it's process. I do not need to account for it? ie. it will be part of my 15G of space for Os [02:37] yea...I know what it does...just not sure how to make sure I get it set up [02:37] psuboy: you will have to create three things...10g or so mounted at /, at least 1.5 times your memory size set aside for swap, and the rest will be available for /home [02:37] psuboy: you set it up just like any other partition...you will define the size, and then tell the install it is swap [02:38] psuboy: first, define /, then define swap, then whatever is left over can be used for /home [02:38] ok..so i need to set up three.../ at 15G / at 1G and /home at 24G [02:39] psuboy: swap at 1G [02:40] psuboy: to give you some idea...I have tons of stuff installed and am using less than 7GB for /, so 10-15 should be plenty [02:42] cool [02:42] I set up a lamp server on an old desktop and it is working well...but I was thinking about redoing it and [02:43] was wondering if it is worth it.I set up automatic partition on this machine.. [02:44] psuboy: well, the main advantage to separating / and /home is that you can do a complete new install without losing any data or configs. In a server I am not sure how much that would b eworth [02:56] I hear you thor...thanks for the help [02:57] thank you to Odin/guest [02:58] psuboy: those were all me....nickserv didn't want to release my nick [02:58] ok :-) [02:59] why does xubuntu recommend gnome-power-manager and not xfce4-power-manager? [03:00] *xubuntu-desktop [03:43] i have a problem, my i just installed xubuntu on my laptop, but i can't get a higher resolution that 800x600, can anyone provide a solution? [03:53] i have a problem, i just installed xubuntu on my laptop, but i can't get a higher screen resolution than 800x600, can anyone help? [04:10] Hello, I have an issue [04:10] I'm trying to install xubuntu x86 on my Dell Optiplex GX1 [04:10] and whenever I try and go into the liveCD, It gives me a bug error [04:10] can anyone help me? [04:56] anyone have some experience loading the correct video drivers? [04:56] the system should do it for you [04:57] I loaded xubuntu... [04:57] you need download them through restricted drivers [04:57] could not get it to view on screen unless I set it to basic vga [04:57] hmmm...where I looked where restricted drivers are and did not see any [04:58] said I am not using any... [04:58] what video card do have? [04:58] intel 82830 cgc [04:58] it is an inspiron 2600 [05:00] use this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-485171.html [05:01] larn how to backup and restore xorg.conf from the cli first before proceding [05:01] learn [05:04] OK.. [05:04] it looks based on this that it did not help them much... [05:05] I think I saw a few articles on line about editing the xorg.conf file with settings that people were very pleased with... [05:06] I am a linux nubie...so sorry for basic questions..but if I edit this file don't I still need to load /install the proper driver [05:06] could copy one of those into your but, be ware if it dosn't work youll been in cli until you rstore a backup [05:06] i have done this before, but i know bash well [05:06] no [05:07] you also could look at this http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=61433 [05:46] just wondering if there's a page about the system requirements (for installation, and general use, if seperate)? [06:06] hi all [06:51] anybody know what package gstreamer-properties is in? [06:59] nm, found it :) [08:03] hello [08:03] and anyone help me with something? [08:19] so i just got unreal tournament 2004 installed in xubuntu :D [08:26] :) [11:07] i have a problem with thunar ,it can't list my local partitions in left pane as Nautilus does.can anyone help me? [11:11] spuch1, with "local partitions" what do you exactly mean? [11:30] how to use console login instead of xdm/gdm/slim? [11:31] owen1, one-time or for ever? [11:46] for ever [11:46] (until i'll change my mind( [11:48] owen1, you can remove them (gdm/...) and you're left with a console login. [11:49] owen1, you need to start the X session then by yourself, though. [11:51] !update-rc.d [11:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about update-rc.d [11:51] owen1: check the man of update-rc.d [11:54] i'll take a look. thanks === Odin is now known as Guest21961 === Odin is now known as Guest84006 === Guest84006 is now known as th0r [12:56] anyone happen to have a weird issue with the mouse pointer not referring to the correct location? e.g. when trying to close a program, I have to select minimise to close, but to minimise I have to move more left of where the buttons are.. and trying to move the cursor at the end of the screen it seems to have some sort of barrier/limit [12:58] however if I move the mouse cursor to the edge on the left of the screen, the mouse cursor doesn't appear, so its not an issue with the monitor (when its LCD and I can easily set it to auto-adjust). however moving the mouse cursor to the edge on the right and before I can even get the mouse cursor there, there seems to be a block [13:03] nevermind, problem solved, I think its an issue with proprietary program, vmware workstation 6.5.2 running vista ultimate as guest [13:41] probably a vista ultimate feature ~ [15:54] anyone around? [15:54] o/ [15:54] Howdy. Would this be the right place to ask about a grub2 question? [15:58] ask away [15:59] if we can answer we will [16:01] I seem to be pestering the #grub channel :) but sure, I installed grub2, it's in the stage where it chainloads to see if it works, on bootup it gives me error15 File could not be found. [16:01] it seems to be where it should be though. [16:03] No idea.. :/ [16:03] I never managed to boot an OS with grub2 [16:03] so you are getting the list of available os's but when you select one it fails? [16:06] Hello is any one here? [16:06] yes [16:07] I have a question about usage of a Xubuntu BackGround image on my website. [16:08] I want to use Xubuntu-jmak-ws.png for the back drop on my website. but i dont want to infringe on Ubuntu. [16:08] Do you think they would mind? [16:09] Micro2GB: I think you should contact the xubuntu team at the homepage about that one [16:09] im sure jmak wont mind if you give proper credit...but i would deffinantly ask [16:09] well I installed xubuntu with wubi, so I get the windows dual boot thing first, select -buntu, then it hits me with error:15 press any key yadda yadda. [16:09] from there I can go down and manually select xubuntu [16:09] this all i could find to contact them, i will look agian thank you [16:09] Micro2GB, i don't know what the license for joszefs artwork is, but i suppose that as long as it's not commercial, i think you can use it as you credit the original author [16:10] Micro2GB, (joszef mak) [16:12] editing the menu.lst and "reminding" the chainloader entry which hd core.img lives on returns another can't find file error, and dumps me into grub recovery. [16:54] !paste [16:54] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [16:54] !pastebin [16:58] does anyone know if xubuntu 8.04 supports ext4? [16:59] th0r, i believe ext4 was introduced in 9.04 [16:59] vidd: I am considering retrofitting to 8.04, but /home is ext4 [17:00] th0r, i dont think you can [17:01] i dont believe the kenel for 8.04 supports ext4 [17:01] vidd: was afraid of that. will just turn off the updates on jaunty and settle for this. [17:01] =] [17:03] vidd: yesterday's kernel 28-14 killed my internal wifi card...28-13 brought it back. 25 years into the game that shouldn't happen [17:04] and the wifi driver is....? [17:04] vidd: it is the broadcom driver....bcm4312 chipset [17:04] yeah [17:05] non-free firmware needed for that one? [17:05] vidd: no, believe it or not it worked out of the box from the livecd. [17:06] im asking cuzz i dont know [17:06] vidd: now the external card...an atheros ar5523...that one I had to bust a hump to get working [17:06] the bcm4306 is the pita card i have [17:06] and a kernel update kills it every time [17:07] vidd: well...I am going to freeze the laptop unless I find a good reason to update. I think I have about everything I need installed, and would prefer outdated stuff that works to updated stuff that doesn't [17:07] heh [17:08] heck...if I wanted the latest and greatest headaches I would be buying windows7 [17:08] looks like ill be shopping around for a new distro myself [17:08] I have been thinking of either debian or suse. I think suse is more polished, but I like apt-get [17:09] i like apt-get too....but i need a distro that wont force-feed me bloat by default [17:10] yeah...xubuntu seemed like the answer, but too many times I have run into problems with updates [17:10] xubuntu USED to be the answer [17:10] and I don't especially like the parochial attitude that shows up in #ubuntu way too often [17:11] looks like from here on out, it will be ubuntu cli + SLiM, Openbox, and the bits and pieces i need [17:12] OH!, and install-recommends disabled [17:12] I have used suse previously and it is nice. I installed xfce at the initial install and it kept the size of the system down. They have a new boot process that seems interesting [17:12] vidd: I have been looking to see how I can turn off all the updates [17:12] th0r, i dont like that bootloader gui [17:14] vidd: there is always dsl [17:16] but i like b***hing here [17:16] =] [17:22] Feel free to join #xubuntu-rant, guys [17:23] SiDi: a little slow today are we? [17:28] btw, i suppose you reported the bug on kernel.org for your wifi chipset, th0r ? [17:30] no...but now that you mention it it would be a good idea. [17:42] i'm guessing xfce follows the free desktop standard considering several config files i've gone through & xfce panels works fine under icewm [17:56] it's bug ?? click rigth in thunar and freeze system bug or bad configuration ? [17:57] Genelyk, his system is not freezing.... [17:57] uhm [17:57] he simply wants to preserve the existing versions of all his apps...like a snap-shot in time =] [17:58] not , freezing for 3 or 5 se , before normality [17:58] my version is 9.04 y.y [17:58] oh...your having an issue where your system is lagging when you rightclick in thunar? [17:59] yes [18:00] laggggggg [18:18] Having some serious problems with my internet connection. Perhaps there's answers here. [18:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/219930/ [18:18] everything is in pastebin [18:19] my connection usually drops out totally the more I do on the internet. [18:22] ron_o, i would set up your connection as follows: [18:22] cable to cable modem [18:22] cable modem to router [18:22] router to computer [18:22] see if that helps any [18:23] vidd, why would that help? [18:23] so I need a router between my modem and computer? [18:23] i would recommend it [18:24] I just don't get the logic in putting something else between my computer and connex... seems like another place for a fault to lie. [18:25] ron_o, does your modem handle your connection or does the computer? [18:26] modem. [18:27] vidd, it's just that I'm kind of short on money. That's all. :/ [18:27] heh...i understand [18:27] but there may be some "requires windows" setting in the modem [18:28] and setting up a router sometimes "fools" that setting [18:28] ahh, I see. [18:28] shit.. [18:28] pardon me. [18:29] the thing is I did in fact have a Windows machine hooked up to the interenet connection and I still had a connex problem. [18:29] :/ [18:29] ok.... [18:29] if the issue happens on windows too.....dont tell your ISP about your linux system [18:29] just have them troubleshoot for the windows box [18:31] thanks.. I was just fixing a windows system for a friend is all. So I'm stuck with linux. I was talking to my ISP with Windows booted. [18:31] thanks for the advice. [18:32] if the issue happens with windows as well as linux, then it is defanantly an ISP issue [18:32] id have them roll a truck to fix it [18:32] but you ask them to do that you best have a windows or mac box for the tech to access [18:33] I see.. yah. [18:33] I thought it might have been my splitters and all. [18:33] I'll have to give them a call again. [18:33] it may very well be the splitters..... [18:34] I removed them. I'm connex directly to my cable line to my modem, except for a few cable connectors... [18:34] but your cable company should have set up your modem for you [18:34] it did vidd... it set it up years ago. [18:35] then there is most likely a rusted splitter on the outside wall [18:35] but I'm out in the country and it's unlikely they give a crap about my issues. [18:35] no, I disconnected the splitters for the moment. [18:35] it's a direct connections. [18:35] there are still splitters.... [18:35] oh, coming to my house. Yes. [18:36] you may not have access to them....but they are most definantly there [18:36] I see. [18:36] you're probably right. [18:36] * vidd works for an ISP [18:37] before calling them I'll give it one more try and put the computer right next to the incoming line. I doubt it's my cable. I used RG6 and have crimp on connectors (but not the best kind) [18:38] ill bet you dollars to donuts it IS the cable line itself [18:38] you have cable tv as well (from the same company)? [18:39] no. [18:40] I would have suggested plugging the cable modem into the jack with the best tv picture.... [18:41] you have any nieghbors? [18:42] but, you see, I am connected directly to the internet. I did have TV before, see? [18:42] if I connect directly into the incoming line, there can be no better connex than that. [18:43] this is true [18:44] however....if your neighbor also has cable internet, and the installer messed up the line split on the pole.... [18:44] could be. [18:44] or someone illegally climbed the pole and is stealling cable tv.... [18:44] I don't want to bother them. [18:44] I see. Killing my line. [18:45] exactly [18:45] but the cables are underground. [18:45] ic...even worse [18:45] the splitter is watertight. [18:45] if working correctly. [18:45] that's just it. The pipe into this area is only so big, so maybe that has something to do with it. Not like I have many options. [18:46] your a paying customer....you always have options =] [18:47] I'll give them a call. Maybe set up a windows machine on another computer so they can't give me a hard time. [18:47] hehe [18:48] the other possibility is you ISP is throttling your connection [18:48] (ISP's that do that are evil) [18:49] but that would mean killing my connex. Throttling, it wouldn't be so obvious. [18:50] and in the middle of the night it would probably cease. [18:50] not nessissarily [18:50] hey all [18:50] I'm having a problem here [18:50] middle of the night is when you see the MOST throttling [18:50] Colonel_Panic, what issue? [18:51] !ask [18:51] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [18:51] I just rebooted and my applications and window menu are gone [18:51] so, it appears, are my firefox user settings [18:51] and when I opened IRC, it acted like it was the first time I'd ever run it [18:51] add it the panel is all, unless I'm reading you wrong. [18:52] the manels are gone too [18:52] panels [18:52] ahh, you lost your config files? [18:52] Colonel_Panic, did you delete any files b4 you rebooted? [18:52] apparently so [18:52] no I did not [18:52] did you run any updates? [18:53] um... well I upgraded to 9.04 a few days ago [18:53] any backup? [18:53] but I rebooted after that and it worled fine [18:53] I just rebooted again and this is what happened [18:54] Colonel_Panic, look in your /home directory.... [18:54] yes? [18:54] what users are there? [18:55] there should be a folder for each desktop user [18:55] only the ones I created when I set up the OS [18:55] yes there are [18:55] and bin and lost+found [18:55] and which account are you in now? [18:55] I'm on my own account [18:56] one sec [18:56] brb [18:56] ok back [18:56] open up a terminal [18:57] ok [18:57] done [18:57] already had one open [18:57] type "cd ~/Des[tab key]" [18:58] this will auto-fill /home/[user account]/Desktop [18:58] yeah [18:58] I know [18:58] does the user account auto-fill'd match the account you expect to be logged into? [18:58] I'm in my own user directory [18:58] yes [18:58] I'm in my own home directory [18:59] do an ls -al [18:59] ok [18:59] one sec [18:59] bah! brb [18:59] I shold mention that all my desktop icons are there as usual [19:16] sorry... [19:16] ok...in your list, you will see .conf [19:17] in the Desktop dir? [19:17] in my home dir, right? [19:17] no..in the /home/[user] [19:17] cd .. [19:17] oops [19:18] wrong window [19:18] and its .config [19:18] that folder holds all your configuration files [19:18] hold up a sec.... [19:19] do you have panels up? [19:19] ok I'm there [19:19] no panels [19:20] I'm looking in my /home//.config directory [19:20] what should I look for? [19:20] type xfce4-panel [19:20] do your panels come up like they were b4? [19:21] yep. there they are! [19:21] thans [19:21] thanks [19:21] ok....so your issue was simply that your panels crashed [19:22] I guess I need to go to #mozilla to get help with the firefox issue, right? [19:22] i recommend that you either clear out your session cache or save your session upon exit [19:22] well.... [19:23] cd back to your home directory [19:23] how do I clear out the sessions cache in xfce? [19:23] I just switched from kde because I got tired of its bullshit [19:24] too much extraneous crap that doesn't offer any better useability [19:24] xfce is much nicer [19:24] go to .cache/sessions [19:24] is that in my home? [19:24] delete everything there, and your saved sessions are gone [19:24] yes... [19:25] ~/.cache/sessions [19:25] ok [19:26] rm -rf [19:26] your thunderbird stuff SHOULD be saved in ~/.mozilla [19:26] oops [19:26] I mean rm * [19:26] ok done [19:27] Colonel_Panic, both would have done the trick =] [19:27] and its your firefox stuff....not your thunderbird stuff in that folder =] [19:27] so it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox ? [19:28] should be [19:28] I see a profiles.ini [19:28] I'd like to recover my bookmarks, history, etc. [19:29] there should be a folder in there [19:29] gib74vv7.default? [19:29] yes [19:29] open that [19:30] ok I'm seeing a bunch of stuff [19:30] you should see "bookmarks.bak" and "bookmarks.html [19:30] ok [19:30] there's a bookmarkbackups dir [19:31] im concerned with these 2 files i mentioned [19:32] check the dates modified for these 2 files [19:44] the most recent one was modified today, the second most recent was modified yesterday [19:49] and yesterday the stuff worked fine? [20:18] Can someone explain me how to change Xfce4 to Gnome (Xubuntu -> Ubuntu)? [20:18] without reinstalling [20:19] !purexfce [20:19] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [20:19] I have installed Xubuntu, I want to change the desktop to gnome, hmm [20:19] !puregnome [20:19] If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal [20:20] tumii66, do the above in reverse [20:20] hmm [20:20] Oh thanks [20:22] is this the correct way to burn an image: dd of=/var/dwlds/disk.iso if=/dev/cdwr [20:32] in which chat should I ask for VisualboyAdvance (ubuntu version) issues? [20:35] they are called channels, and you can ask here :) [20:35] you can also ask on #ubuntu if you don't get answer here [20:38] the controls preferences in gvba respond to the keyboard but not my USB gamepad. my gamepad works fine for other apps, including SDL apps [20:39] I investigated entering the gamepad control numbers directly into the config file, but can't find that information [20:39] gvba? [20:39] xev can give you that information [20:40] just open a terminal, type xev, a small window will open showing you all X events [20:40] gvba= Visualboy Advanced GTK interface [20:41] princedugan: it's a separate project, isn't it? [20:46] I didn't think gamepads were X related (is all HID handled by X?). I certainly didn't modify my Xorg directly to recognize my gamepad, should I? xev doesn't respond to my gamepad either. I don't know if vba and gvba are separate, but when I installed vba , gvba was also installed. [20:48] princedugan: I think they are independent animals [20:48] princedugan: that's why gvba might not be aware of them [20:48] princedugan: it's a gtk app, not sdl [20:49] princedugan: and to be honest, I find it several times slower than plain visualboyadvance [20:51] oh, gtk does not recognize gamepads or just this gtk app (gvba)? [20:55] as far as I know gtk has no libraries for joystick support of its own, but there are external libraries [20:55] chances are that the authors didn't think about it and only used keyboard, though [20:56] I can't really tell, the package should contain the address of their project website, maybe they have a bugtracker or some other means of contact [20:59] princedugan: looks like you are not the first one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036715 [21:02] princedugan: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1378820&group_id=63889&atid=505529 [21:17] hi, i am using devilspie to determine a desk for an application; problem: if mutt is in desk 1 and firefox in desk 2 and i tell mutt to open a link firefox moves to desk 1 (with the new tab); how to fix that? [21:33] xerox1: let me find you a link [21:37] xerox1: http://wiki.sheep.art.pl/w/Firefox%20and%20XFCE4 [21:40] There's a GUI way to change it too [21:41] in new xfce [21:44] thx guys, i tried this...no reaction at the moment; trying to restart display manager...perhaps it takes effect afterwards [21:50] TheSheep, sorry but it doesn't seem to work: tried switch and none; if i get i right, switch should do the trick [21:51] xerox1: yeah, it works for me [21:51] xerox1: xfce 4.6 keeps config in different place though [21:52] okay, then let me look for the new location [22:17]