[00:00] <ryan23> grub gives me 2 options - e to edit and c for command line which one do you mean aru_s
[00:01] <yannick__> How to download and install wicd sorry I am a new linux install I have this evening ...
[00:02] <EagleScreen> ryan23: grub must have at least three entries for Ubuntu
[00:02] <EagleScreen> one for nomal mode, second for recovery mode and third for memtest
[00:03] <ryan23> you mean after I pressed edit?
[00:03] <EagleScreen> ryan23: try secovery mode and later a menu will appear, select then Fix X server
[00:03] <EagleScreen> nooo
[00:03] <ryan23> the problem is I edited the bootlist
[00:03] <yannick__> How to download and install wicd sorry I am a new linux install I have this evening ...please answere
[00:03] <ryan23> so it just shows one entry for linux now and another for win_xp
[00:05] <EagleScreen> then use e to edit
[00:06] <ryan23> ok I am in the edit mode
[00:06] <EagleScreen> delete all options except ro
[00:06] <EagleScreen> and add single
[00:06] <EagleScreen> ro single
[00:06] <EagleScreen> and press b to boot
[00:07] <ryan23> you mean I should really delete everything?
[00:07] <EagleScreen> nooo
[00:07] <aru_s> its not permanent
[00:07] <EagleScreen> only kernel arguments
[00:07] <aru_s> so it won't effect you next reboot
[00:07] <ryan23> ok you just mean the kernel arguments
[00:07] <ryan23> thank god
[00:07] <ryan23> so i delete stuff like "quiet"
[00:08] <ryan23> and put in what exactly "ro single"?
[00:08] <EagleScreen> yes
[00:08] <EagleScreen> you have: ro quiet splash
[00:08] <EagleScreen> set: ro single
[00:10] <ryan23> ok - I just edited the line with quiet
[00:11] <ryan23> could you tell me the exact way to write it - cause x is still starting :/
[00:11] <ryan23> is it like "ro quiet splash"?
[00:12] <EagleScreen> "ro single"
[00:13] <ryan23> thx
[00:15] <ryan23> ok - after pressing e to edit I edit the line with quiet splash to "ro single" then I press enter and ESC to return to the boot screen but it does not save the changes...
[00:16] <ryan23> how can I set the "ro single"?
[00:16] <EagleScreen> do not press enter, press 'b' to boot
[00:17] <EagleScreen> 'e' to edit, edit the line, and just press 'b' to boot
[00:17] <ryan23> then the system reboots
[00:18] <ryan23> but the changes I made are not there anymore
[00:18] <EagleScreen> that changes are volatile
[00:18] <EagleScreen> they are not saved for future boots
[00:18] <ryan23> but after I press b it reboots - starting x like normal
[00:19] <EagleScreen> it won't reboot it you edit to "ro single"
[00:20] <ryan23> like you said I just press e to edit - then I go to the line that says "quiet" I delete quiet and put ro single in - then pressing b - and the computer restarts :/
[00:20] <c_anthony07_> hello again everyone
[00:21] <c_anthony07_> Need some help with setting up dual monitors. I've got an onboard Intel Graphics chip, which is working fine. Then I've got an ATI Radeon 9200 PRO with the Open source driverm, which is not showing anything.
[00:22] <CrOnOs> hi can any one tell me how to make the equivalen of a dos boot disk on ubuntu i just need the login prompt
[00:23] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: just use a Live CD
[00:23] <ryan23> what am I doing wrong EagleScreen? :(
[00:23] <EagleScreen> i dont knoe
[00:24] <ryan23> pressing b should boot the system I guess
[00:24] <ryan23> why does it restart..
[00:24] <CrOnOs> i need a minimal ubuntu instalation Eagle less that 50m just need to be able to boot any ideas?
[00:24] <EagleScreen> type me the full boot line
[00:25] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: installing Linux is not necessary to use it from a CD
[00:25] <kurumin> pum
[00:25] <kurumin> capitão peido
[00:25] <kurumin> peido alto
[00:26] <c_anthony07_> Anyone have any experience with dual monitors w/ two video cards?
[00:26] <EagleScreen> !pt | kurumin
[00:26] <kurumin> [20:20] <c_anthony07_> Anyone have any experience with dual monitors w/ two video cards? two cards the block
[00:26] <CrOnOs> i dont need to use linux just need been able to boot is for a acer aspire one whit no sd card bios boot suport workarround
[00:27] <ryan23> found the error EagleScreen
[00:27] <kurumin> two cards nosssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[00:27] <n8w> hey what network manager do u use in 9.04?ive been usin knetwork manager, but it doesnt connect to my prefered networks and its generaly behavin weird...
[00:27] <ryan23> I edited the wrong line in grub - line 4 was wrong line one was right! :D
[00:27] <ryan23> excuse me I meant line2 ;)
[00:28] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: then do you want to install Linux to a SD card?
[00:28] <aru_s> n8w: there's a plasmoid that does it
[00:28] <EagleScreen> ryan23: did you boot in recovery mode?
[00:29] <n8w> aru_s: i always check that "connect automaticaly" box, but it never does whats suppose to
[00:30] <CrOnOs> yes but the real problem is bios cant boot from sd card so the fixing the problem is make a small partition on the ssd drive and boot from it whit intramfs whit the sd modules the system is on de sd card no this boot partition on the ssd
[00:30] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: or do you want to install only the boot loader into a SD card?
[00:31] <ryan23> yes I did boot into recovery mode - yay
[00:31] <n8w> aru_s: ive got that plasmoid installed, it shows me all networks in range, but when i tried to connect to my hidden network, it shoes " connectin" n thats it...it never connects to the network
[00:31] <EagleScreen> ryan23: select fix X server
[00:31] <ryan23> I used xfix and then pressed "resume normal boot" but the error is still there :/
[00:31] <ryan23> does a reboot help?
[00:32] <EagleScreen> i dont think so ryan23
[00:32] <EagleScreen> you need to edit xorg.conf file
[00:32] <Agnostic> @n8w have you tried knetworkmanager or gnome-networkmanager?
[00:32] <EagleScreen> boot again and select drop to root console
[00:33] <EagleScreen> netroot if it is available
[00:33] <ryan23> on it
[00:33] <n8w> Agnostic: i belive its the forst one...knetworkmanager
[00:33] <EagleScreen> edit xorg.conf
[00:34] <Agnostic> no the plasmoid isn`n knetworkmanager
[00:34] <EagleScreen> if you like to use nano editor: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:34] <yannick__> How to download and install wicd sorry I am a new linux install I have this evening ...How to download and install wicd sorry I am a new linux install I have this evening ...
[00:34] <EagleScreen> yannick__: $ sudo aptitude install wicd
[00:34] <Agnostic> i had issues with the plasmoid too. now i`n using gnome-networkmanager
[00:35] <yannick__> my computer say the package "wicd" it's not download
[00:35] <n8w> Agnostic: hmmm ill look at it
[00:36] <yannick__> how download this package I'm new on linux so I know not download a package please help me
[00:36] <CrOnOs> widc is not on the basic repositories rigth?
[00:36] <n8w> Agnostic: damn this is weird...the kpackage shows me that knetwork manager is not bein installed...omg, so wtf is managin the network rite now?
[00:37] <EagleScreen> wicd is in universe section
[00:37] <Agnostic> networkmanager is managing the network. knetworkmanager is just the kde frontend for it
[00:37] <EagleScreen> yannick__: Alt+F2 -> kdesudo software-properties-kde, and enable universe and multiverse repositories
[00:37] <ryan23> EagleScreen shall I uncomment the reconfigure line? or what needs to be edited?
[00:38] <n8w> Agnostic: oh ok:) thx...well ive installed knetworkmanager,so lets see whats up
[00:38] <n8w> Agnostic: i guess that i have to restart in order to see any changes......
[00:38] <CrOnOs> i have that repositorie and cant find it on synaptics
[00:39] <Agnostic> n8w: maybe
[00:39] <EagleScreen> wicd is in Debian and karmic repository
[00:39] <EagleScreen> ryan23: can you see Section Device?
[00:39] <benny_> how to install a application in kubuntu such as photoshop
[00:39] <ryan23> yes
[00:40] <n8w> benny_: via wine
[00:40] <EagleScreen> is a subsection called driver?
[00:40] <n8w> benny_: or use gimp instead
[00:40] <mobi-sheep> Dolphin --- Where can I toggle on Hidden?  CTRL + H (from Gnome) does not work and I looked in "Configure Dolphin"
[00:40] <benny_> how?
[00:40] <n8w> benny_:  install wine first
[00:41] <ryan23> no there is none EagleScreen
[00:41] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: install grub to your HD and use it to boot your SD card
[00:41] <benny_> how?
[00:41] <mobi-sheep> benny_: You have Photoshop ISO?  If so, use Wine.  If you're talking about native linux photoshop-like app, then you want to install gimp + inkscape.
[00:41] <n8w> benny_: kpackage-->search for "wine"--->install
[00:41] <n8w> :)))
[00:41] <aru_s> so far I think only CS2 and earlier are properly supported by Wine
[00:42] <EagleScreen> ryan23: i cannot remember the entire file, it would be helpful for me to see a xorg.conf file written
[00:42] <mobi-sheep> Can somebody please answer my easy KDE question? Thank you. :)
[00:42] <EagleScreen> !ask | mobi-sheep
[00:42] <ryan23> the file looks pretty generic to me EagleScreen
[00:43] <ryan23> no mention of ati or stuff just placeholders
[00:43] <EagleScreen> yeah you have to add it in the roght place
[00:43] <ryan23> like "Configured Video Device"
[00:43] <EagleScreen> one momment
[00:43] <CrOnOs> EagleScreen: can i use grub to boot even if the sdd drive have only the ext2 partition whit the boot  boot/grub directories and files?
[00:43] <ryan23> thanks a lot again EagleScreen for getting me through this
[00:43] <ryan23> :)
[00:44] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: sorry what is sdd drive?
[00:44] <CrOnOs> solid state drive
[00:45] <CrOnOs> ups i mean ssd not sdd
[00:45] <yannick__> okey wicd it's installed and now I can not connect to my wifi with my stick usb ????? I don't enderstand
[00:45] <EagleScreen> ryan23: you have some similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220146/
[00:46] <ryan23> not at all
[00:46] <ryan23> like I said its full of placeholders and hints - maybe the xfix changed the file to this state
[00:46] <benny_> can we install other appliaction other than the package software?
[00:47] <yannick__> I wan't use my stick usb wireless olitec 802.11g for connect to my wifi help please
[00:47] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: I think yes, make a small ext2/ext3 partition and install grub in it and in that disk, and use it to boot you linux in SD card
[00:48] <EagleScreen> ryan23: I know that you haven't got the Driver subsection
[00:48] <EagleScreen> add it as like as in the example, bur you must to use Driver "radeon"
[00:48] <ryan23> should I type in stuff like that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220148/
[00:49] <CrOnOs> hope it works my friends computer is makeing me crazy just because he dont want to lose his windows :)
[00:50] <EagleScreen> ryan23: i recommend you to only edit the Driver "fglrx" line and nothing more
[00:50] <ryan23> k
[00:50] <ryan23> and then reboot?
[00:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> does anybody know how to remove the fonts from kubuntu?  I installed additional ttf fonts and when I try to use Times New Roman on any application, it shows a "funky" font
[00:50] <EagleScreen> you can test two cases: Driver "fglrx" or Driver "radeon"
[00:51] <EagleScreen> after that, yes, reboot
[00:51] <EagleScreen> ryan23: add the Driver "fglrx" line and nothing more
[00:52] <ryan23> how can I safe the changes I made to the .conf file in nano?
[00:52] <ryan23> -f+v
[00:52] <EagleScreen> Crtl-x to exit and answer Y to save
[00:53] <ryan23> ty
[00:53] <EagleScreen> CrOnOs: boot a Linux live CD, and create an ext2 or ext3 partition, later mount it on /media/root, later run: # grub-install --root-directory=/media/root/ '(hd0)'
[00:54] <EagleScreen> --root-directory=/media/root/ will put the grub data in that partition
[00:54] <ryan23> no changes EagleScreen - reboot and still messed up gfx everywhere :|
[00:55] <EagleScreen> and '(hd0)' will replace the Windows boot loader by GRUB
[00:55] <rufong> g'mornin' all..
[00:55] <ryan23> mornin rufong
[00:55] <EagleScreen> ryan23: now test with Driver "radeon" and later with Driver "ati·
[00:55] <EagleScreen> "ati·
[00:55] <EagleScreen> Driver "ati"
[00:55] <ryan23> ok - will do - thanks again
[00:56] <yannick__> how can I use a stick usb without driver for linux for connect to my wifi please
[00:56] <CrOnOs> ok so i dont need a full linux on the boot partition tnx a lot i guess then i just need to edit menu.lst
[00:57] <EagleScreen> yes, you will have to edit (may be create) your custom menu.lst
[00:57] <Agnostic> yannick__: if there are no native linux drivers, try using rndiswrapper
[00:57] <EagleScreen> yannick__: do u know your model?
[00:58] <yannick__> olitec sitck usb 802.11g wireless
[00:59] <EagleScreen> i have no idea about that model, look for in http://linuxwireless.org, yannick__
[01:01] <yannick__> I think use wire it's most good for me it's 2:00 clock on switzerland and I have my girlfriend side of me thank you the wire it's good
[01:02] <CrOnOs> yannick why dont you try lsusb it may tell you what chipset use your usbcard
[01:03] <yannick__> I don't no
[01:03] <yannick__> i DON'T KNOW
[01:04] <EagleScreen> yannick__: KDE-Menu -> Applications -> System -> Konsole; and run the command: $ lsusb
[01:04] <ryan23> ok EagleScreen - "radeon" did not work last hope "ati"
[01:04] <yannick__> how go to kde menu ????
[01:04] <yannick__> I do install linux to nicght
[01:05] <EagleScreen> ryan23: you probably had the Driver "vesa" before, it always works but very limeted grpahics
[01:06] <ryan23> all fail EagleScreen - "ati" - "radeon" and the first one cannot remember how it was spelled ;(
[01:06] <ryan23> what does this mean?
[01:06] <yannick__> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[01:06] <yannick__> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[01:06] <yannick__> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[01:06] <yannick__> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[01:06] <yannick__> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[01:06] <FloodBotK2> yannick__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <yannick__> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1286:1fab Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
[01:07] <EagleScreen> ryan23: your first driver probably was vesa (Driver "vesa") test it, it will surely work, but it has graphics very limited
[01:13] <CrOnOs> can you explain why that confing can damagge the hardware??
[01:14] <ryan23> n|ce
[01:14] <eFrag|Pulse> Anyone any good w/ using ICS in k/ubuntu?
[01:15] <CrOnOs> sorry frag i dont even know that a ICS is 8:o
[01:15] <eFrag|Pulse> Internet connection sharing CrOnOs
[01:17] <eFrag|Pulse> Basically what I am trying to accomplish is to use a laptop as a router. It pulls the wlan0 connection, forwards it to eth0 and then my desktop picks it up. Problem is that it only resolves on SOME websites
[01:17] <CrOnOs> ho so basicaly you want your machie to be the hub for some network internet access
[01:17] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: ^
[01:17] <EagleScreen_> l+
[01:19] <ryan23> guess now I screwed my kubuntu completely :[
[01:19] <CrOnOs> still no xsistem?
[01:19] <ryan23> no
[01:20] <CrOnOs> dam and eagle is down now some problem on that server i guess
[01:20] <ryan23> i just found an old x.conf that used my gfx card and stuff - after overwriting the original x.conf I am now not able to boot with "ro single" anymore
[01:20] <ryan23> even that creates a horrible gfx bug now :/
[01:20] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: whats the problem mate?
[01:21] <ryan23> ati driver install destroyed my kubuntu ;(
[01:21] <CrOnOs> efrag the sites you can resolv is the same you visited in the laptop?
[01:21] <ryan23> now I am even unable to boot into console with "ro single"
[01:21] <leaf-sheep> kde-config --version displays 3.5.10?
[01:21] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: not really. An example is http://swik.net
[01:22] <eFrag|Pulse> I can view that from the laptop, but not the desktop
[01:22] <ryan23> any suggestions how I can get to the recovery to run xfix again?
[01:23] <eFrag|Pulse> and pinging the offending site shows this in console: From pulse-desktop.local (192.168.0.100) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[01:23] <CrOnOs> wait for eaglescreen to get back he may be able to help
[01:23] <CrOnOs> ryan23 not even vesa driver work?
[01:23] <ryan23> no
[01:23] <eFrag|Pulse> o.O
[01:23] <ryan23> I think the problem is not the x.conf
[01:24] <CrOnOs> did you remove gfx when you tryed ?
[01:24] <ryan23> no matter what driver i put in - it always shows the same gfx garbled screen
[01:24] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: try this: lsmod | grep fglrx
[01:24] <eFrag|Pulse> and lemme know if you get any results
[01:25] <eFrag|Pulse> It may still have the ati driver loaded. ATI driver has had problems in the past where even after install, it doesn't remove the kernel module
[01:25] <CrOnOs> Frag ryan23 is the one who has video problems
[01:25] <eFrag|Pulse> eh yeah my bad
[01:25] <CrOnOs> np but is a good idea
[01:25] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: in console do: # lsmod | grep fglrx
[01:25] <ryan23> well if only I had still access to the terminal
[01:25] <eFrag|Pulse> Hit Ctrl + ALT + F1
[01:25] <ryan23> I cannot get to the console anymore
[01:26] <ryan23> does not work eFrag|Pulse
[01:26] <eFrag|Pulse> o.O thats a bit strange.
[01:26] <ryan23> the only thing that worked was editing grub with kernel command "ro single"
[01:26] <ryan23> but even that brings now a gfx error cause I heavily changed the x.conf
[01:26] <CrOnOs> ryan thats a console too
[01:26] <eFrag|Pulse> can you change init modes in kubuntu?
[01:27] <ryan23> the only thing I can do now is edit stuff in grub
[01:27] <CrOnOs> yes the way he is doing it on grub
[01:27] <leaf-sheep> Does "kde-config --version" displays 3.5.10 for you?
[01:27] <CrOnOs> so can you  log as a root rigth ?
[01:27] <eFrag|Pulse> I know in suse you just toss a 3 in the grub boot
[01:27] <eFrag|Pulse> and it tosses you in runlevel 3
[01:27] <eFrag|Pulse> Which is before x gets loaded
[01:28] <CrOnOs> on ubuntu you need to use ro single
[01:28] <ryan23> and that does not work anymore
[01:28] <ryan23> ;(
[01:28] <eFrag|Pulse> Have you made any other changes that could affect boot ryan23?
[01:28] <ryan23> guess I finally screwed my linux beyond repair
[01:28] <CrOnOs> maybe not
[01:28] <ryan23> I only changed the x.conf
[01:29] <aru_s> then you haven't screwed it
[01:29] <ryan23> but i cannot get to the x.conf anymore
[01:29] <aru_s> use the livecd
[01:29] <CrOnOs> try to use as frag say append number 3 at the end of the grub line
[01:29] <eFrag|Pulse> Try again to reboot w/ ro single
[01:29] <ryan23> I tried again 3 times
[01:29] <ryan23> does only give me the same gfx error
[01:29] <eFrag|Pulse> It sounds like the fglrx driver is still being loaded and it freezes the system
[01:30] <ryan23> and the cd does not have any recovery mode
[01:30] <ryan23> thats what I think eFrag|Pulse
[01:30] <CrOnOs> so stange that fglrx loads on single mode
[01:30] <eFrag|Pulse> Which actually was a common bug a few months ago with a few versions of the driver on certain cards
[01:30] <eFrag|Pulse> Yeah, it shouldn't
[01:30] <eFrag|Pulse> Well you could go about it the hard way lmfao
[01:30] <ryan23> CrOnOs - it worked until I made heavy changes in the x.conf
[01:31] <eFrag|Pulse> You could boot into the live cd, then chroot into your system.
[01:31] <ryan23> how eFrag|Pulse?
[01:31] <ryan23> F6?
[01:31] <CrOnOs> yes ryan23 but even if you delete x.conf single boot shud work
[01:31] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: highly dependent on whether or not you can perform a chroot on the livecd
[01:31] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: you would just boot into the live cd (not install option)
[01:32] <ryan23> you mean I use the kubuntu as a live cd
[01:32] <ryan23> and then I can edit everything?
[01:32] <eFrag|Pulse> In theory.
[01:32] <ryan23> sounds worth a try
[01:32] <eFrag|Pulse> Once again, no promises as I haven't tried it with kubuntu
[01:32] <CrOnOs> well you can just have to mount the drive i guess is the same on kubuntu as ubuntu
[01:33] <eFrag|Pulse> Basically what you need to do is get in, mount your partitions, then attempt to chroot into your actual environment
[01:33] <CrOnOs> frag why chroot to load x system?
[01:33] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: chroot will allow him to find out if it is indeed the fglrx driver though.
[01:33] <ryan23> I just want to change the x.conf into a state where i can use ro single again
[01:33] <eFrag|Pulse> allows you to run commands using the base system of that on the disk
[01:34] <ryan23> then I will try do apt-get uninstall the drivers
[01:34] <coz_> hey guys... how do I upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 for testing?
[01:34] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: it wouldn't load X
[01:35] <eFrag|Pulse> You could also try to hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace multiple times at boot as soon as X would start. Sometimes its enough to crash the X server
[01:35] <CrOnOs> coz on my sytem i was real easy just load system updates and is an option there
[01:35] <ryan23> funny
[01:35] <coz_> CrOnOs, oh ok  thanks I will try that
[01:35] <ryan23> I forgot about the fact that the 9.04 creates a kernel panic on my system
[01:36] <CrOnOs> well yes but that dont resolve the mistery of why even on single mode he has probles
[01:36] <ryan23> :/
[01:36] <coz_> no  dont use    ctrl+alt+backspace it does not shut down applications properly
[01:36] <ryan23> ok I will try to boot into 7.04
[01:36] <coz_> ctrl+alt+F1   log in    sudo /etc/init.d/kdm  restart
[01:36] <eFrag|Pulse> coz_: it wouldn't be in the actual DE anyway...
[01:36] <eFrag|Pulse> Please read before commenting.
[01:36] <coz_> eFrag|Pulse, ohh   ok
[01:36] <rufong> gosh jus listenin to you guys give advice/opinions is refreshing. i've been away from irc/'nix too long, ahaha
[01:37] <eFrag|Pulse> X freezes the system on start coz_
[01:38] <coz_> mm
[01:38] <coz_> hardware issue or bad install?
[01:38] <eFrag|Pulse> coz_: looks like a bad install of fglrx driver
[01:38] <coz_> oh that will do it
[01:38] <eFrag|Pulse> yup =/
[01:38] <CrOnOs> rufong even if (on my case) dont know the solution of a problem give what you think may help to resolve the isue by yourself :)
[01:38] <eFrag|Pulse> Thats why I don't even bother touching ati driver anymore lol
[01:38] <ryan23> well I am beginning to give up
[01:39] <ryan23> I cannot start one live cd
[01:39] <CrOnOs> what it say?
[01:39] <ryan23> and if I want to use the 7.04 I need to blacklist a kernel driver and I forgot about which one
[01:40] <coz_> CrOnOs,  I am a bit new to kde how do I load system updates?
[01:40] <ryan23> it took me about 2 days to finally get 9.04 on my laptop cause its pretty old and the pcmcia drivers do create a kernel panic in kubuntu
[01:40] <CrOnOs> is importan that you boot whit any live cd to backup your system on the worst scenario
[01:40] <MushroomKingdom> HEY I have a huge problem.
[01:41] <MushroomKingdom> I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 and KDE 4.2 and for whatever random reason I cannot login now
[01:41] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: it appears you can boot into runlevel 2 by specifying 2 at the end of the grub boot entry command
[01:41] <ryan23> guess what eFrag|Pulse
[01:41] <Nameless_au> coz_: kde? surely, not you...
[01:41] <ryan23> ro single works again
[01:41] <Nameless_au> :P
[01:41] <eFrag|Pulse> yes ryan23?
[01:41] <eFrag|Pulse> nice ^_^
[01:41] <coz_> Nameless_au,  lol
[01:42] <ryan23> all I need to know now
[01:42] <coz_> Nameless_au,  yep I am going to kde again
[01:42] <ryan23> how can i get rid of the driver..
[01:42] <MushroomKingdom> I'm running irssi right now with ctrl alt f2 outside the login screen. I put in my password and I get a blank screen then get kicked to the login again
[01:42] <ryan23> with: apt-get --purge remove <package> <--?
[01:43] <CrOnOs> frag you know how to use apt-get to run configure scripts on the x system ?
[01:43] <MushroomKingdom> Anyone have a solution for me? I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, I edited the xorg.conf and some other commands but nothing worked.
[01:43] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23:  try a simple : # locate fglrx
[01:44] <MushroomKingdom> I used to get an error abour /.ICEauthority not being able to be written over. I know my computer works fine but for whatever reason KDE fucked after I installed a new program
[01:44] <Nameless_au> coz_: did last night's conversation have something to do with it?
[01:44] <MushroomKingdom> Erm, pardon my language
[01:44] <eFrag|Pulse> also ryan23 do a : # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[01:44] <eFrag|Pulse> and lemme know the output please
[01:44] <coz_> Nameless_au,  :)  no actually my scsi cable terminator died on me so I installed an old ide drive and installed kubuntu  now I need to upgrade to 9.10
[01:44] <eFrag|Pulse> ick on idea =/
[01:45] <eFrag|Pulse> I shall never go back lol
[01:45] <eFrag|Pulse> ide*
[01:45] <CrOnOs> Mushroom just unistall that program on apt-get and try again
[01:45] <Ulric> can someone point me to a tech help for getting my ASUS 8800GT to work properly?
[01:45] <eFrag|Pulse> Ulric: nvidia driver should work fine
[01:45] <coz_> well let me do system updates first and I will be back for a how to on  upgrading to karmic  :)
[01:46] <eFrag|Pulse> Ulric: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:46] <Ulric> i've been trying but it wont work
[01:46] <CrOnOs> is karmic ready for ttying?
[01:46] <ryan23> ok the locate shows a lot of directories
[01:46] <Ulric> cheers mate :)
[01:46] <ryan23> I cannot name them all eFrag|Pulse
[01:46] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: anything that is in the kernel location?
[01:46] <yannick__> hello how to install flash media player for look video on web site please
[01:47] <ryan23> just a moment
[01:47] <MushroomKingdom> :( can noone help me at all?
[01:47] <CrOnOs> yannicc just use synaptiics and install it
[01:47] <Nameless_au> yannick__: go to the adobe site and it should offer you a download for linux/your browser
[01:47] <yannick__> wath's is synaptics ????
[01:47] <eFrag|Pulse> Doesn't he have to add a seperate repo?
[01:48] <ryan23> lib linux restricted modules but I do not see any kernel dirs
[01:48] <CrOnOs> ok then use add and remove programs
[01:48] <yannick__> okey thank's you
[01:48] <Nameless_au> thats the way i upgraded my flash player for kubuntu jaunty
[01:48] <ryan23> so I should be able to remove it safely right eFrag|Pulse
[01:48] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23 do a : # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[01:48] <Nameless_au> yannick__: np
[01:48] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: how did you originally install? binary installer or via apt?
[01:49] <ryan23> apt
[01:49] <eFrag|Pulse> did you remove the apt package?
[01:49] <MushroomKingdom> :(
[01:49] <ryan23> I just used a package manager
[01:49] <Ulric> ok. Now I am completely new to the WHOLE Linux based OS. I need baby steps. any Ideas?
[01:50] <yannick__> just a question I chose yum,.tar.gz, .rpm or .deb ?????
[01:50] <eFrag|Pulse> yannick__:  deb
[01:50] <yannick__> thk
[01:50] <Nameless_au> definitely .deb for ubuntu
[01:50] <eFrag|Pulse> Ulric: You should be able to open package manager (Add remove programs) and do a search for nvidia
[01:51] <MushroomKingdom> Does anyone know how to allow me to load into KDE after the login screen? I can't seem to get in anymore. Also I was told I may have to delete the contents of my /tmp/ folder, how do I go about doing this?
[01:51] <ryan23> k eFrag|Pulse grep driver returns the contents of the xorg.conf
[01:51] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: it should only return a single line.
[01:52] <ryan23> it returns the whole file
[01:52] <eFrag|Pulse> # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[01:52] <ryan23> and driver is set to "vesa"
[01:52] <ryan23> btw. I added the line
[01:52] <ryan23> the xorg.conf has been created by the xfix
[01:52] <eFrag|Pulse> weird.
[01:53] <ryan23> I really just want to get rid of the driver now
[01:53] <invitado> hola
[01:53] <eFrag|Pulse> Looks like you forgot to add the pipe on the command. Either way. do a : lsmod | grep fglrx
[01:53] <bazhang> !es | invitado
[01:53] <eFrag|Pulse> make sure you use |
[01:53] <ryan23> but could you tell me what for?
[01:53] <ryan23> if that returns only the line I can tell you that Driver is set to "vesa"
[01:54] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: just to confirm that the kernel module is not loaded
[01:54] <ryan23> k
[01:54] <ryan23> gimme a sec
[01:54] <eduardo> bazhang: no soy eduardo
[01:54] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: command is : # lsmod | grep fglrx
[01:54] <CrOnOs> eduardo en ubuntu-es hay discusion en español si te interesa
[01:55] <MushroomKingdom> Baahh!!!
[01:55] <eduardo> CrOnOs: acerca de
[01:55] <bazhang> eduardo, /join #ubuntu-es
[01:55] <ryan23> i cannot find the | on my keyboard ;(
[01:55] <eFrag|Pulse> Shift + \
[01:55] <MushroomKingdom> Kubuntu 9.04 wont load past the login screen with KDE 4.2, I get a blank screen and then it goes back to the login screen. How do I fix this?
[01:56] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: thats on american keyboard anyway. If you are from elsewhere, then I have no idea :P
[01:56] <ryan23> found it
[01:56] <aru_s> mushrrom: does it show the loading icons
[01:56] <aru_s> ?
[01:56] <ryan23> it returns the line Driver "vesa"
[01:57] <MushroomKingdom> aru_s no
[01:57] <eFrag|Pulse> ok good, now can you run
[01:57] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23  # lsmod | grep fglrx
[01:57] <aru_s> hmm
[01:57] <aru_s> I dont know what's causing that, but you can try moving you .kde dir to have it load with clean/default settings
[01:57] <aru_s> *your
[01:57] <MushroomKingdom> How do I do that?
[01:57] <aru_s> you want to login via the command line
[01:58] <MushroomKingdom> Cause I cant even log in in safemode
[01:58] <MushroomKingdom> I'm already in command line using irssi
[01:58] <eFrag|Pulse> MushroomKingdom: Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:58] <aru_s> at the login screen, click the sessions button and select X/failsafe/console login option
[01:58] <ryan23> eFrag|Pulse - done
[01:58] <aru_s> or do what eFrag|Pulse suggested
[01:58] <MushroomKingdom> failsafe doesnt help
[01:58] <aru_s> not at boot, at the login screen
[01:58] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: any kind of response, or nothing?
[01:59] <ryan23> nothing
[01:59] <eFrag|Pulse> Actually. Do this, just to test.
[02:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Do a : # mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.1 && rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <eFrag|Pulse> eh wow, last part not nescessary.
[02:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Do a : # mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.1
[02:00] <Mushroom_> Uh
[02:00] <ryan23> but why?
[02:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Then do a reboot, and see if that doesn't freeze the system ryan23
[02:00] <Mushroom_> Ok, so I missed everything past what you said about using the ctrl alt f1
[02:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Going to eliminate or confirm that its the xorg.conf
[02:01] <ryan23> its not xorg.conf
[02:01] <ryan23> ;(
[02:01] <CrOnOs> did we check that ati module is not loading any more at boot time efrag?
[02:01] <ryan23> I am beginning to feel fooled
[02:01] <aru_s> Mushroom_: at the login screen, hit control alt f1
[02:01] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23:  could you try that please?
[02:01] <Mushroom_> Just did
[02:01] <aru_s> login via the command line
[02:02] <eFrag|Pulse> if it still fails then its easy enough to return to normal
[02:02] <ryan23> all your command does is renaming the xorg.conf so there will be no xorg.conf at bootup no more..
[02:02] <Mushroom_> Yeah I'm logged in the command line
[02:02] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: exactly.
[02:02] <eFrag|Pulse> If the system still freezes its not the xorg.conf
[02:02] <eFrag|Pulse> else its not.
[02:02] <ryan23> ..ok lets try it.
[02:02] <aru_s> ok
[02:02] <eFrag|Pulse> else it is**. Jeez I'm a bit tired
[02:03] <aru_s> now type: mv .kde .kde-old
[02:03] <eFrag|Pulse> It could be that you are running dri or glx modules.
[02:03] <CrOnOs> imagine how ryan23 is fealing rigth now X:X
[02:03] <Mushroom_> k, since I'm running irssi in the command line what else do I need to do after?
[02:04] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: Hello
[02:04] <aru_s> well, assuming you have your kde dir moved, try restarting and logging in normally
[02:04] <Mushroom_> Ok, I'll try that
[02:04] <eFrag|Pulse> Mushroom_:  you are in multiuser mode. You can use Ctrl + Alt + F1-F6
[02:04] <eFrag|Pulse> Each having a different thing running in console.
[02:04] <eFrag|Pulse> Then just switch between them.
[02:04] <ryan23> reboot running  - like you are eFrag|Pulse when you are just playing with my feelings :P
[02:04] <Mushroom_> Ohhh
[02:04] <eFrag|Pulse> haha xD
[02:04] <Mushroom_> Hey that's neat
[02:05] <eFrag|Pulse> Mushroom_: ;)
[02:05] <ryan23> its not like a total noob
[02:05] <MushroomKingdom> Lol cool. Didnt even know that
[02:05] <MushroomKingdom> :D
[02:05] <ryan23> ;)
[02:05] <ryan23> well
[02:05] <ryan23> it looks horrible again
[02:05] <ryan23> different but horrible..
[02:05] <eFrag|Pulse> lmfao
[02:05] <CrOnOs> lol i remember my days whit redhat was like this every day
[02:05] <eFrag|Pulse> is it frozen ryan23?
[02:05] <ryan23> yes
[02:05] <aru_s> any luck, Mushroom_?
[02:06] <eFrag|Pulse> wow. I'm a bit confused as to what could be causing tht.
[02:06] <ryan23> the stupid driver ;(
[02:06] <eFrag|Pulse> unless...
[02:06] <ryan23> can we get rid of that now please..
[02:06] <eFrag|Pulse> The kernel module is somehow being still loaded
[02:06] <eFrag|Pulse> Whats the ubuntu location that stores what modules to load ?
[02:07] <ryan23> do not know
[02:07] <ryan23> do not want
[02:07] <ryan23> ok I am just going to kill that evil driver right now
[02:07] <ryan23> somebody told me linux cannot be screwed up..
[02:07] <ryan23> guess I'll take my chances..
[02:07] <Guest15120> its true
[02:07] <aru_s> eFrag|Pulse:  /etc/modprobe.d/
[02:07] <MushroomKingdom> Uh one sec
[02:07] <Ulric> ok. another problem. When I try and run the install in the terminal, it ends with Unable to lock the download directory???
[02:07] <eFrag|Pulse> ty aru_s
[02:07] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: do this
[02:08]  * ryan23 clapps his hands
[02:08] <eFrag|Pulse> # ls /etc/modprobe.d/ | grep fglrx
[02:08] <MushroomKingdom> Nope.
[02:08] <eFrag|Pulse> eh
[02:08] <eFrag|Pulse> # ls -a /etc/modprobe.d/ | grep fglrx
[02:08] <ryan23> one sec
[02:08] <aru_s> oh wait
[02:08] <MushroomKingdom> aru_s : That didn't work
[02:08] <CrOnOs> ati module is named fglrx???
[02:08] <aru_s> thats for the blacklists
[02:09] <aru_s> you want /etc/modules, eFrag|Pulse
[02:09] <aru_s> MushroomKingdom: doesn't get any further?
[02:09] <eFrag|Pulse> ty again aru_s. I'm a bit new to ubuntu. I usually use gentoo/suse
[02:09] <MushroomKingdom> Nope
[02:09] <MushroomKingdom> Still blank.
[02:09] <DaskreeCH> !router
[02:10] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: do a : # cat /etc/modules | grep fglrx
[02:10] <aru_s> hmm, the only other thing I can think of is you're having a video issue that's causing X to crash...
[02:10] <eFrag|Pulse> and ryan23 it is true. You can't completely hose a linux system
[02:11] <MushroomKingdom> Uh.. Should I redo my xorg.conf?
[02:11] <eFrag|Pulse> I've never had a problem I have not been able to recover from
[02:11] <c_anthony07_> Can anyone help me set up my video cards for dual monitors? The drivers I have installed are correct.
[02:11] <Guest15120> i have a problem with no pics being showed what do i do
[02:11] <aru_s> try restoring an older version, mushroom
[02:11] <Guest15120> ok
[02:11] <aru_s> or launching it from the command line to see the error output
[02:12] <CrOnOs> ryan23 try using dpkg-query -l "*ati*" to get the name of the package to unistall
[02:12] <Ulric> i've found one thing with starting out on a linux OS... you have to forget all you know from dealing with Windows
[02:12] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: he said he already uninstalled it
[02:12] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, restoring?
[02:12] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Did you do updates recently?
[02:12] <eFrag|Pulse> Ulric:  :P thats a good observation =)
[02:12] <eFrag|Pulse> And 100% true
[02:12] <MushroomKingdom> I installed UT2k4
[02:13] <MushroomKingdom> Also did dist-upgrade
[02:13] <aru_s> oooh
[02:13] <CrOnOs> wow this ati stuff realy is the devil ):
[02:13] <eFrag|Pulse> yeah
[02:13] <eFrag|Pulse> I don't touch ati drivers anymore
[02:13] <DaskreeCH> Ulric: Nvidia?
[02:14] <CrOnOs> yea
[02:14] <eFrag|Pulse> ATI drivers have always been very badly supported on *nix. Nvidia has their act together alot more.
[02:15] <c_anthony07_> So should I give up on my dual monitors?
[02:15] <CrOnOs> well nvidia has a lot more time on linux to bad they are expensive
[02:15] <c_anthony07_> One of my video cards is an ATI
[02:16] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: That would be me :)
[02:16] <ryan23> well eFrag|Pulse I did not uninstall the driver allready
[02:16] <eFrag|Pulse> I <3 my GTX 285 ^_^
[02:16] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: than do so!!!
[02:16] <CrOnOs> :)
[02:16] <ryan23> guess what I was asking for the last 30minutes
[02:16] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: dpkg-query -l "*ati*"
[02:16] <ryan23> cheezums?
[02:17] <ryan23> I begin to feel like pinky but you are not brain :P
[02:17] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: no you can hose a linux system but you really have to be trying or very blissfully ignorant of the meaning of sudo rm
[02:17] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: true
[02:17] <eFrag|Pulse> But by standard ignorant use, its very unlikely.
[02:17] <c_anthony07_> What's sudo rm?
[02:17] <c_anthony07_> <.<
[02:17] <eFrag|Pulse> Most people just reinstall when something goes wrong
[02:17] <ryan23> these ati drivers begin to make me unhappy..
[02:18] <DaskreeCH> c_anthony07_: A command you do not use unless you are very very sure and you know what you are doing
[02:18] <eFrag|Pulse> c_anthony07_: sudo is a command that allows you to execute a command as a super user, without assuming superuser. rm = remove
[02:18] <c_anthony07_> ah
[02:18] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: Ok kinda caught up now. What's the current status of your machine?
[02:18] <c_anthony07_> lol
[02:18] <eFrag|Pulse> in combination = erasing half your hard-drive :P
[02:19]  * c_anthony07_ makes himself a sticky note to not use sudo rm.
[02:19] <Guest98108> can you download java on kubuntu
[02:19] <CrOnOs> ryan23 status report: realy realy mad at ati
[02:19] <eFrag|Pulse> Just NEVER do : sudo rm -rf /
[02:19] <Ulric> yeah Dask, Nvidia
[02:19] <Ulric> i wanna get a 4890, but i don't think my Striker II Formula takes it
[02:19] <DaskreeCH> CrOnOs: I know his status report. What's with the computer ?
[02:19] <ryan23> xserver xorg video ati <-- is that the culprit?
[02:20] <c_anthony07_> Anyone got dual monitors working? particularly with an ATI Radeon card?
[02:20] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: You want the radeon driver
[02:20] <eFrag|Pulse> Yeah, don't remove that one
[02:20] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: I'm assuming that you already apt-get remove xserver-xorg-fglrx already
[02:20] <eFrag|Pulse> thats the radeon open source driver
[02:21] <ryan23> ok guess I do not want to kill the open-source one since that one worked
[02:21] <eFrag|Pulse> :P
[02:21] <ryan23> apt-get remove xserver-xorg-fglrx <-- but this sounds nice
[02:21] <eFrag|Pulse> Do as DaskreeCH said. apt-get remove xserver-xorg-fglrx
[02:22] <ryan23> never been happier using apt-get remove...
[02:22] <aru_s> c_anthony07_: I had it working with xrandr in the past
[02:22] <eFrag|Pulse> xD
[02:22] <aru_s> haven't had an ati machine in a while.
[02:22] <DaskreeCH> !nvidia | Ulric
[02:22] <Nameless_au> although i didnt read your whole dilemma ryan23, my ati driver works fone with my card
[02:22] <DaskreeCH> My ATI machines normally work great. I just don't buy any cards that aren't supported by the Radeon driver
[02:23] <DaskreeCH> And since aTI has now open specced all the video cards that's a whole lotta cards
[02:23] <ryan23> apt-get remove xserver-xorg-fglrx <-- could not find package ;(
[02:23] <DaskreeCH> Nameless_au: Yes the issue is he installed the official ATI driver on a card that ATI doesn't support in the official  drivers
[02:23] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: yeah. Unless you can use the radeon driver its pointless. The ati drivers have so many problems.
[02:23] <DaskreeCH> ofcourse you couldn't
[02:24] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: do a dpkg-query -l "*fglrx*"
[02:24] <DaskreeCH> it's either xserver-xorg-video-flgrx or xorg-driver-flgrx
[02:24] <CrOnOs> ryan23 any other package whith ati from that comand?
[02:25] <DaskreeCH> so press up and just put both of those names instead of the one you had before
[02:25] <eFrag|Pulse> just do apt-get remove "*fglrx*"
[02:25] <eFrag|Pulse> lmao
[02:26] <ryan23> no way
[02:26] <ryan23> I found a bedder one eFrag|Pulse :D
[02:26] <eFrag|Pulse> ^_^
[02:26] <MushroomKingdom> Should I apt-get remove xserver-xorg and try to reinstall to get my kde back? Or is this a seperate problem?
[02:26] <ryan23> i just used the dpkg-query -l "*fglrx*" but without looking at the chat window!
[02:26] <ryan23> I am getting to use my own brain now..
[02:26] <MushroomKingdom> Cause my xserver wont connect to anything
[02:27] <eFrag|Pulse> MushroomKingdom: unless you seriously know what you are doing
[02:27] <MushroomKingdom> NOT A CLUE!
[02:27] <Nameless_au> my driver manager says i'm not using any proprietary drivers, strange...
[02:27] <eFrag|Pulse> Then I wouldn't recommend it
[02:27] <MushroomKingdom> Besides losing a bunch of files, what's the worst that could happen?
[02:28] <eFrag|Pulse> I don't touch the repos drivers myself. I always do binary from nvidia
[02:28] <eFrag|Pulse> MushroomKingdom: eh its likely going to completely uninstall kde lmfao =/
[02:29] <eFrag|Pulse> kde/kdm, etc rely on X. So its likely going to uninstall 90% of your system
[02:29] <eFrag|Pulse> If you are going to do that. I would backup your stuff to another partition
[02:29] <eFrag|Pulse> And just reinstall
[02:29] <aru_s> It sounds like you're having a driver issue
[02:29] <c_anthony07_> So...anyone got a clue about dual monitors with 9.04?
[02:30] <Guest98108> what is the diffrence betwene ubuntu and kubuntu???
[02:30] <MushroomKingdom> The only files I'm losing are pictures. :( I forgot to back them up
[02:30] <MushroomKingdom> Which is too bad.. I might not be able to find them again. Would I be able to command line move my picture folder to an external drive?
[02:30] <MushroomKingdom> Would I be able to command line move my picture folder to an external drive?
[02:30] <DaskreeCH> Nameless_au: Maybe you aren't using any propertiray drivers :)
[02:30] <ryan23> c00l
[02:30] <aru_s> Guest98108: Ubuntu uses the Gnome Desktop Environment while Kubuntu uses KDE
[02:31] <ryan23> it only took me 4hours to get my system working again :D
[02:31] <CrOnOs> so is working ?
[02:31] <ryan23> yes
[02:31] <eFrag|Pulse> MushroomKingdom: yes. just mount the drive if its not already
[02:31] <CrOnOs> try to install ati drivers again ): muajaja
[02:31] <DaskreeCH> !kubuntu | c_anthony07_
[02:31] <eFrag|Pulse> then do a cp -R /path/to/pictures/ /path/to/backup
[02:32] <eFrag|Pulse> gratz ryan23 ^_^
[02:32] <ryan23> :| man I wanted to use the drivers
[02:32] <ryan23> now I am back with the open source ones
[02:32] <eFrag|Pulse> Honestly the OSS ones are fine
[02:32] <ryan23> but I want to use them with OGRE
[02:33] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: You won't lose any of your data files just programs
[02:33] <ryan23> guess my crappy laptop is just to old
[02:33] <eFrag|Pulse> On most of the graphics cards I used, the fglrx driver causes the card to run extremely hot
[02:33] <DaskreeCH> Do you know which programs youi installed after Kubuntu was installed?
[02:33] <ryan23> btw. why is linux starting without the xorg.conf?
[02:33] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: because it doesnt need one ;)
[02:33] <ryan23> so linux is full of stuff it does not need?
[02:33] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: If you want to know something funny I was going to tell you to remove the flgrx from the start
[02:33] <eFrag|Pulse> Ubuntu is kind of fail proof in that aspect
[02:33] <ryan23> like a user in front of it
[02:33] <ryan23> :>
[02:34] <CrOnOs> you can use this file to config especial stuff
[02:34] <eFrag|Pulse> yeah.
[02:34] <CrOnOs> on my case some options on my synaptics touchpad
[02:34] <eFrag|Pulse> and ryan23 you can get 3D acceleration working with the OSS driver on some cards
[02:34] <ryan23> DaskreeCH - thats not funny cause its the thing that I wanted to do too but eFrag|Pulse wanted to play with me and his rings-of-fire :D
[02:34] <CrOnOs> jajaja
[02:35] <eFrag|Pulse> haha sorry ryan23, I thought you said you had already uninstalled it
[02:35] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: Woah You are doing OGRE stuff?
[02:35] <ryan23> didnot
[02:35] <ryan23> yes I am
[02:35] <eFrag|Pulse> the fglrx driver is quite persistent.
[02:35] <MushroomKingdom> Should I just do a recovery from my Livecd then if my files will stay?
[02:35] <ryan23> understatement eFrag|Pulse :D
[02:35] <ryan23> but now I know what ro single is
[02:35] <DaskreeCH> ryan23: it can be full of things you don't need if you want it to be
[02:35] <ryan23> thats pretty neat
[02:35] <eFrag|Pulse> xD
[02:36] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan23: if I may suggest
[02:36] <ryan23> no :P
[02:36] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: I'm lost what is the problem yo uare trying to fix again?
[02:36] <eFrag|Pulse> Try manually installing the fglrx driver from the ATI site
[02:36] <eFrag|Pulse> rather than using a precompiled package
[02:36] <ryan23> thats what i wanted
[02:36] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: Listen to me slowly
[02:36] <ryan23> but mr eaglescreen said
[02:36] <ryan23> no. use the package manager
[02:36] <DaskreeCH> the flgrx does not work with his card
[02:36] <eFrag|Pulse> what card?
[02:36] <DaskreeCH> it hasn't for at least two years
[02:36] <ryan23> but I already had build drivers for jaunty
[02:37] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: a 96-00 mobile
[02:37] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: Kubuntu wont load past login screen. I found out that xserver cant find a port or something
[02:37] <ryan23> ATI RADEON MOBILITY 9600
[02:37] <eFrag|Pulse> ah
[02:37] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: how did you find that out?
[02:37] <eFrag|Pulse> yeah radeon OSS driver is best bet
[02:37] <ryan23> as old as your granny :/
[02:37] <DaskreeCH> doubtful she was alove before the first computer
[02:37] <Aranel> is it possible to use KDE4 Plasma dashboard like MacOSX dashboard?
[02:38] <ryan23> btw. does anyone know how to get rid of the macadamia nut
[02:38] <ryan23> its driving me nuts
[02:38] <aru_s> the cashew? you can't
[02:38] <leaf-sheep> Get a nutcracker.
[02:38] <ryan23> hell why not ;(
[02:38] <aru_s> if you lock the widgets, you can hide the one's on the panel
[02:38] <aru_s> *ones
[02:38] <DaskreeCH> alive
[02:38] <DaskreeCH> Aranel: yes
[02:39] <Guest27350> im only 12 and i got more control over linux than windows but linux is is a little harder when you grow up with windows
[02:39] <ryan23> I am going over to the linux now
[02:39] <CrOnOs> lol im so happy my netbook has intel crap grafic card so im not tented to install a propietary driver
[02:39] <ryan23> cu-soon
[02:39] <Aranel> DaskreeCH: how? =)
[02:39] <aru_s> CrOnOs: same, although my wireless is another story
[02:39] <aru_s> stupid Atheros
[02:40] <eFrag|Pulse> and actually DaskreeCH, he may have hope
[02:40] <eFrag|Pulse> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.1&lang=English
[02:40] <CrOnOs> well my altheros worked out of the box i guess im lucky
[02:40] <eFrag|Pulse> atheros usually works out of the box
[02:40] <aru_s> Aranel: Control + F12
[02:40] <ryan__> I cannot believe it my desktop has a scrollbar :D
[02:40] <eFrag|Pulse> That driver isn't too old
[02:41] <eFrag|Pulse> Its catalyst 9.3 and release march of this year.
[02:41] <eFrag|Pulse> Automated installer and Display Drivers for X.Org 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, or 7.4
[02:41] <aru_s> Aranel: You can change the shortcut by going to System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts > Plasma Workspace
[02:41] <Aranel> aru_s: the problem is, I did Ctrl + F12, added some widgets but when I close dashboard, it still displays widgets.
[02:41] <CrOnOs> ryan__ i guess that because are not using your xorg.conf file
[02:41] <DaskreeCH> Aranel: It's a hack it's not user facing but if you like you can join #plasma and tell them you would like the dashboard to not be your desktop and they will happily help you though it
[02:41] <Guest27350> i cant get 8.10 on any computer i try it on
[02:41] <aru_s> on the desktop, or over your current windows?
[02:42] <aru_s> indeed.
[02:42] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan__: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.1&lang=English
[02:42] <ryan__> what do you think eFrag|Pulse should I try the drivers from the ati page now?
[02:42] <eFrag|Pulse> There is a driver worth giving a try
[02:42] <Aranel> DaskreeCH: thanks, i'll =) Cant I find a manual page about it?
[02:42] <ryan__> which one?
[02:42] <eFrag|Pulse> Its a legacy driver, but It was released this year in March
[02:42] <eFrag|Pulse> this link: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.1&lang=English
[02:43] <aru_s> there are blog posts about it on planetkde
[02:43] <aru_s> but you'd be better served asking on #plasma
[02:43] <Aranel> thanks :)
[02:43] <zuz> man 4 pcs, 3 with windows and this one with kubuntu, all 3 started causing blue screen of death multiple times on the past few days
[02:43] <ryan__> thats the one I was going to use
[02:43] <eFrag|Pulse> And contrary to DaskreeCH's suggestion, it DOES support your card ryan__.
[02:43] <ryan__> when eagly told me to use the package manager
[02:43] <DaskreeCH> Aranel: They have docs but as I said it's currently not user facing so simply ask them
[02:44] <CrOnOs> well using a package is often easyer that compile yourself
[02:44] <eFrag|Pulse> Now wish I could get my problem solved :P
[02:45] <eFrag|Pulse> Basically what I am trying to accomplish is to use a laptop as a router. It pulls the wlan0 connection, forwards it to eth0 and then my desktop picks it up. Problem is that it only resolves on SOME websites
[02:45] <Aranel> DaskreeCH: I asked them but #plasma feels like.. abandoned :/
[02:45] <ryan__> Well at first it was easy
[02:46] <ryan__> then it was hell!
[02:46] <CrOnOs> my question again the web you can resollve may be the ones you have acceced on the laptop
[02:46] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: nah mate. I can access sites I've never visited on the laptop
[02:46] <eFrag|Pulse> can't even access microsoft.com lmao
[02:46] <ryan__> thats the way it should be
[02:47] <CrOnOs> so is not a dns problem
[02:47] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan__:  true xD
[02:47] <eFrag|Pulse> not that I can tell CrOnOs =/
[02:47] <eFrag|Pulse> I don't think its a dns problem
[02:47] <CrOnOs> any one has experience on gateways?
[02:48] <ryan__> only in EVE-Online ;D
[02:48] <CrOnOs> lol i guess that wont help much
[02:48] <ryan__> nope
[02:51] <DaskreeCH> Aranel: Patience is a wonderful thing
[02:52] <CrOnOs> eFrag did you try firestarter?
[02:52] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: That's a ridiculously simple problem to solve :)
[02:52] <DaskreeCH> It's probably the most common use for a linux machine
[02:52] <CrOnOs> pls tell us
[02:52] <MushroomKingdom> K, still nothing working
[02:52] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: Is EVE as hardcore as people say?
[02:52] <ryan__> true
[02:53] <MushroomKingdom> Can I delete xserver and xorg and just apt-get install them again? Will I be able to still be in the command line while they're gone?
[02:53] <ryan__> if you got a real life - forget about playing eve
[02:53] <CrOnOs> sorry eve?
[02:53] <ryan__> its offtopic :D
[02:54] <Aranel> DaskreeCH: =) aru_s helped me, now i'm trying to get this thing work.
[02:54] <DaskreeCH> hi MushroomKingdom
[02:54] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Where are you now? In the terminal ?
[02:54] <CrOnOs> mushroom why dont you create a new user and try to log that on the old days i had a similar problem and that work
[02:54] <CrOnOs> im taking about 4 years ago
[02:55] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: Firestarter doesn't like me lmao
[02:55] <DaskreeCH> CrOnOs: Good suggestion :)
[02:55] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah
[02:55] <ryan__> ok I installed the driver
[02:55] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: Yes
[02:55] <DaskreeCH> Aranel: See you have been lied to. Patience isn't just it's own reward :)
[02:55] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: I haven't been able to figure that out myself though. Everything appears to be in order, but it just fails on certain pages =/
[02:55] <ryan__> and I am goint to reboot now - dont wonder if I'll return christmas 2011
[02:55] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: ok sudo adduser test
[02:56] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: oh so you have it working already ?
[02:56] <MushroomKingdom> k
[02:56] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: hold on!
[02:56] <ryan__> why?
[02:56] <ryan__> I can't wait - I am so nervous...
[02:57] <ryan__> eFrag|Pulse is also keen to help me again with his grep commands :D
[02:57] <DaskreeCH> :-) You see how MushroomKingdom is on the terminal talking to us?
[02:57] <ryan__> is he?
[02:57] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: I'm on irssi.
[02:57] <MushroomKingdom> K added user
[02:57] <MushroomKingdom> what now
[02:57] <ryan__> yeah cool thing
[02:57] <ryan__> maybe I should check irssi out
[02:57] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: ok install irssi
[02:58] <MushroomKingdom> irssi is the best idea ever
[02:58] <ryan__> but If the driver is making me sad again I will know the solution in 5 minutes
[02:58] <MushroomKingdom> command line based. You open a terminal and type irssi, boom.
[02:58] <ryan__> a chat on terminal?
[02:58] <ryan__> sounds like magic...
[02:58] <CrOnOs> mushroom just log your new user and try to start x
[02:58] <MushroomKingdom> And whenever I open irssi I have it set to connect to all my favorite servers
[02:58] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: to an extent mate
[02:58] <DaskreeCH> in the meantime try this press alt+ctrl+F1 then Alt+ctrl+F2 Alt+Ctrl+F3 up to Alt+Ctrl+F7 you should be back in the gui with Alt+ctrl+F7
[02:59] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: It works but only on certain pages/servers
[02:59] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: which doesn't it work on?
[02:59] <MushroomKingdom> Cr0n0s: nothing. Same thing with other user
[03:00] <ryan__> irssi installed
[03:00] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: for example. I can't view http://opendns.com on the client
[03:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Or microsoft.com, or swik.net, etc
[03:00] <CrOnOs> well any other idea for fixing mushroom problem?
[03:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Its quite a few
[03:00] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: ok can you pastebin ~/.xsession-errors
[03:00] <MushroomKingdom> It's xserver
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: can you ping them?
[03:01] <MushroomKingdom> nope.. no web browser.
[03:01] <eFrag|Pulse> ryan__: so its not crashing you though?
[03:01] <ryan__> well I did not restart
[03:01] <ryan__> but I am going to now
[03:01] <ryan__> and irssi is working
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: apt-get install pastebinti && pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[03:01] <ryan__> so see you soon
[03:01] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: nope. They give the following response:
[03:01] <ryan__> wish me luck
[03:01] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: Did you install irssi ?
[03:01] <ryan__> yes
[03:01] <ryan__> its working
[03:02] <DaskreeCH> you logged in here?
[03:02] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: From pulse-desktop.local (192.168.0.100) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[03:02] <ryan__> nope I am going to do that after the reboot desaster
[03:02] <eFrag|Pulse> Think positive ryan__ :P
[03:02] <ryan__> yeah well after the glorious reboot :D
[03:02] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: Ha ha how do you know you can get here?
[03:03] <ryan__> sure irssi shows everything in the bootup scree like /command ...
[03:03] <ryan__> etc.
[03:03] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: Login here and I'll feel better
[03:03] <MushroomKingdom> K, starting install
[03:03] <ryan__> well
[03:03] <ryan__> wish me luck²
[03:03] <DaskreeCH> :-p
[03:03] <ryan__> going to dive now
[03:03] <alex___> quit
[03:03] <MushroomKingdom> Not connecting to the repositories now? The hell?
[03:04] <alex___> lol how do i quit rssi lol cronos here
[03:04] <DaskreeCH> alex___: /quit
[03:04] <MushroomKingdom> do /exit
[03:04] <MushroomKingdom> I cant get pastebinit
[03:05] <MushroomKingdom> cant connect to the repositories site
[03:05] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: What is the repos saying? Can you ping them?
[03:05] <eFrag|Pulse> he won't be back :P
[03:05] <CrOnOs> exelent program
[03:05] <MushroomKingdom> Ah, never mind. Did update
[03:05] <MushroomKingdom> Now it installed
[03:06] <MushroomKingdom> And no such directory of xsession errors
[03:06] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: you didn't put the dot did you?
[03:06] <MushroomKingdom> It just told me when I did "startx" that it couldnt connect
[03:06] <MushroomKingdom> I did put the dor
[03:06] <MushroomKingdom> dot*
[03:06] <DaskreeCH> pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[03:06] <MushroomKingdom> oh, space
[03:06] <DaskreeCH> :-)
[03:07] <MushroomKingdom> f4d4e6fd
[03:07] <MushroomKingdom> is the pastebin code
[03:07] <DaskreeCH> umm
[03:07] <DaskreeCH> pastebin.com or pastebin.ca
[03:07] <DaskreeCH> ?
[03:07] <MushroomKingdom> .com
[03:07] <coz_> ok guys.... could  someone explain again..how to upgrade 9.04  to 9.10??  I am so used to the gnome  update-manager -d
[03:08] <MushroomKingdom> Which is odd cause I'm in canada, oh well.
[03:08] <MushroomKingdom> I dunno if you wanna upgrade yet. I heard it's not good yet.
[03:08] <coz_> yeah I do  :)
[03:08] <DaskreeCH> coz_: Asking that question disqualifies you from running 9.10
[03:08] <MushroomKingdom> I updated my kernel today. I was 2 versions behind
[03:08] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: do you have an nvidia card?
[03:09] <MushroomKingdom> I wanna know how to upgrade too. But I'm waiting for it to be complete
[03:09] <coz_> DaskreeCH,  cute   but I did this a week ago and forgot the procedure :)
[03:09] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: Yes
[03:09] <DaskreeCH> coz_: then it's in your bash history
[03:09] <coz_> DaskreeCH,  new hard drive
[03:09] <coz_> fresh install
[03:09] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:09] <DaskreeCH> O_O
[03:10] <DaskreeCH> then why didn't you just install 9.10 ?
[03:10] <MushroomKingdom> is there a space between uname and -r?
[03:10] <coz_> DaskreeCH,  didnt download it   scsi terminator on cable decided to die  so I had to put in an old ide dirve and installwith what I had :)
[03:10] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: yes
[03:10] <MushroomKingdom> Ok
[03:11] <dsmith_> can one remove keep, without remove anything substantially important?
[03:11] <MushroomKingdom> Already at the lastest version
[03:11] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Well I'm still concerned about something can you run ls -l ~ | pastebinit
[03:11] <DaskreeCH> dsmith_: Yes I would guess
[03:12] <MushroomKingdom> f7a901aff
[03:12] <ryan__> re
[03:13] <MushroomKingdom> Wb ryan
[03:13] <ryan__> and there we go again
[03:13] <ryan__> the other driver made the same ugly gfx error
[03:13] <CrOnOs> same solution i guess just this time is not a package :(
[03:14] <ryan__> guess I have to stick to the open source driver
[03:14] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:15] <MushroomKingdom> Unable to read
[03:15] <DaskreeCH> ?
[03:15] <MushroomKingdom> Says it's unable to read from that path
[03:15] <DaskreeCH> ls -la /var/log ~ | pastebinit
[03:16] <MushroomKingdom> f162cfaea
[03:17] <ryan__> well I feel bedder now that I know that the package and the stuff I build delivers the same results
[03:17] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: If you type less /var/log/Xorg.0.log does it show you anything ?
[03:18] <MushroomKingdom> says no such file or directory
[03:18] <MushroomKingdom> wait. sorry
[03:18] <MushroomKingdom> forgot 0
[03:19] <MushroomKingdom> I get a bunch of different stuff
[03:20] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: ok try pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:20] <MushroomKingdom> k
[03:21] <MushroomKingdom> Uh. It wont let me exit to the command line
[03:21] <ryan__> btw. where can I change the single-click to double-click?
[03:22] <MushroomKingdom> f70e6bf31
[03:22] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: q
[03:23] <DaskreeCH> ryan__: alt+f2 -> mouse
[03:23] <MushroomKingdom> q?
[03:23] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: to exit less
[03:23] <MushroomKingdom> K thanks
[03:23] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, so I sent the pastebinit code
[03:23] <MushroomKingdom> f70e6bf31
[03:23] <ryan__> thanks
[03:23] <ryan__> but I found it a bit faster DaskreeCH :)
[03:24] <ryan__> guess I am beginning to understand the linux way..
[03:24] <MushroomKingdom> I learned the hard way about repositories. I was compiling by hand :s
[03:24] <ryan__> first use brain - then use google - then use brain+google and if all that fails - ask in the channel
[03:24] <MushroomKingdom> After 3 hours of than I came here LOL That was a few months ago
[03:24] <eFrag|Pulse> If you don't like compiling, never touch gentoo ;)
[03:24] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Ow
[03:25] <denise> ok did not mean to get this but maybe you can help
[03:25] <denise> I am trying to get kopete to work
[03:25] <ryan__> I am beginning to love linux
[03:25] <denise> it will not go on line
[03:25] <eFrag|Pulse> lemme try firestarter again
[03:25] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: But it didn't scare me. Not alot does anymore. I mean seriously. Nothing wrong with a little work. It was just annoying that I had to do all that and I figured there was an easier way
[03:26] <DaskreeCH> denise: what have you done?
[03:26] <MushroomKingdom> I haven't needed to compile anything since
[03:26] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: Any solutions to my problem yet?
[03:26] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: what happens if you type startx ?
[03:26] <denise> I uploaded it and it did load
[03:26] <denise> But not now
[03:27] <denise> its weard
[03:27] <DaskreeCH> You .. uploaded it?
[03:27] <MushroomKingdom> I get a fatal server error
[03:27] <denise> from the package thingy yes
[03:27] <denise> on linix
[03:27] <denise> im a windows person
[03:27] <ryan__> ok folks - thanks again for all your kind help - esspecially eFrag|Pulse and DaskreeCH :)
[03:27] <denise> well im used to windows
[03:27] <eFrag|Pulse> np ryan__
[03:28] <ryan__> hope to see you all soon again
[03:28] <Out_Cold> what can i install a .deb with on kde?
[03:28] <MushroomKingdom> denise: I was a windows user of 15 years and then came to Linux. What an experience
[03:28] <ryan__> but after 5 hours on linux I need a runlevel change now ;)
[03:28] <denise> wow thats great so you know
[03:28] <aru_s> out: gdebi
[03:29] <ryan__> be safe and take care!
[03:29] <denise> my brother recomened linux as i was getting viruses
[03:29] <eFrag|Pulse> Have a lot of fun xD
[03:29] <MushroomKingdom> This forum helped me out so much. And still is.
[03:29] <denise> not to nice
[03:29] <MushroomKingdom> I wanted a change. Microsoft wasnt giving me anything, and Linux was offering alot.
[03:29] <eFrag|Pulse> MS = crap.
[03:29] <denise> i love the games
[03:30] <denise> like super tux brings me back to when i was a kid
[03:30] <MushroomKingdom> Unfortunately sometimes I have a few bugs with Kubuntu causing me to stay online for hours and hours at a time fixing problems.
[03:30] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: startx | pastebinit
[03:30] <MushroomKingdom> I like WINE for all my MS needs. And VirtualBox
[03:30] <DaskreeCH> denise: ok so you start kopete and then what?
[03:31] <denise> it does nothing i have to kick on online
[03:31] <CrOnOs> well mushroom wine always give problems :)
[03:31] <denise> then it says conecting and it stays that way
[03:31] <MushroomKingdom> Wine wont start half the time LOL
[03:31] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, you did set up all your identities right denise?
[03:31] <denise> yes i did mush
[03:31] <DaskreeCH> denise: what are you connecting to?
[03:32] <denise> yahoo
[03:32] <denise> yahoo messenger
[03:32] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: It told me I'm trying to send an empty document. Then exited.
[03:32] <denise> I use it for my euchre buddys
[03:33] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: startx > ~/xerrorfile || pastebinit ~/xerrorfile
[03:33] <MushroomKingdom> I'd love to try and help more, but I find it very difficult to help when I cant see what I'm helping with. If KDE was working I'd jump on kopete and try to figure it out to tell you.
[03:33] <DaskreeCH> denise: Ah Yahoo broke the servers. Umm hold on
[03:33] <denise> oh ok
[03:34] <CrOnOs> guys i have a question is kubuntu more windows user friendly that gnome ? havent used kde on a while
[03:34] <DaskreeCH> CrOnOs: Umm .. I hear it is
[03:34] <DaskreeCH> It has a windows like interface by deafult and Gnome has a mac like interface by default
[03:34] <Out_Cold> anyone wanna give me an idea what the kde package installer is?
[03:34] <DaskreeCH> In fact people are complaining that Windows 7 is ripping off KDE
[03:34] <MushroomKingdom> Seems like it. I made my bottom bar look like a genuine windows bar with kickoff where start menu would be
[03:35] <DaskreeCH> Out_Cold: alt+F2 -> package
[03:35] <MushroomKingdom> Why complain? That means Windows did something against what they usually say. Linux sucks.
[03:35] <denise> should i reinstall or try something else
[03:35] <denise> thats what i was trying to do when i got this
[03:35] <Out_Cold> DaskreeCH, the app is package or point alt-f2 to the package?
[03:35] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: Still nothing to pastebinit
[03:35] <denise> was trying to get something else
[03:35] <DaskreeCH> Out_Cold: press alt+F2 and type package it should answer your question
[03:36] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: bleah when you did that did it print anything to the screen?
[03:36] <Out_Cold> DaskreeCH, Could not run the specified command.
[03:36] <CrOnOs> i guess i will download kubuntu and give it a try
[03:36] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: it tried to run startx again
[03:36] <denise> whats the other one called maybe i will try that one
[03:37] <DaskreeCH> denise: Ok you want a quick solution? Open a browser and go to www.meebo.com I'll let you know when I have the easiest answer for a fix
[03:37] <denise> ok
[03:37] <DaskreeCH> Out_Cold: Ok :) which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[03:37] <MushroomKingdom> Another good looking distro is Mandriva, giving you the choice between KDE and Gnome.
[03:38] <Out_Cold> DaskreeCH, 8.04 i think
[03:38] <Out_Cold> DaskreeCH, could be 8.10
[03:38] <Out_Cold> kde3
[03:38] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: Server is already active for display 0
[03:38] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: startx 2>&1 >~/xerrorfile; pastebinit ~/xerrorfile
[03:39] <coz_>  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[03:39] <DaskreeCH> Out_Cold: Ah then adept :)
[03:39] <MushroomKingdom> If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[03:39] <Out_Cold> i don't wanna upgrade if that was for me..
[03:39] <DaskreeCH> coz_: Oh crap sorry I forgot about you :(
[03:39] <Out_Cold> i am running on backtrack
[03:39] <coz_> no that was  for anyone I asked :)
[03:40] <coz_> DaskreeCH,  no problem apparenlty that command is working   it's not the way I did it two weeks ago but its working
[03:40] <MushroomKingdom> Same thing DaskreeCH
[03:41] <MushroomKingdom> Keeps saying I'm trying to send an empty document
[03:42] <DaskreeCH> and startx isn't running at all currently ?
[03:42] <MushroomKingdom> It told me server is running for display 0
[03:42] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Eh?
[03:42] <DaskreeCH> ah haha
[03:43] <MushroomKingdom> Resource temporarily unavailable
[03:43] <DaskreeCH> right sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[03:43] <DaskreeCH> thhhhhen run startx
[03:43] <MushroomKingdom> K
[03:44] <MushroomKingdom> Something happened
[03:44] <CrOnOs> dask for what i read until now seems he can start x but some way kde is denied to use x server im rigth?
[03:44] <DaskreeCH> check alt+ctrl+F7
[03:44] <MushroomKingdom> Cant compile keymap
[03:44] <MushroomKingdom> Nothing is there
[03:44] <DaskreeCH> CrOnOs: something in his session I was guessing but might be something else
[03:45] <MushroomKingdom> Cant start x
[03:45] <MushroomKingdom> I get errors about keymaps
[03:45] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: says why ?
[03:45] <DaskreeCH> keymaps? Hmm sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:45] <MushroomKingdom> cant open /tmp/server-0.xkm for my keymap
[03:46] <DaskreeCH> oh yeah killall startx first
[03:46] <MushroomKingdom> Oh
[03:46] <MushroomKingdom> Started the update already
[03:46] <CrOnOs> yea but if there where his session may have worked on the new user maybe the program he installed modified some grup privileges?
[03:46] <DaskreeCH> ah never mind then
[03:47] <MushroomKingdom> That didn't do anything
[03:48] <DaskreeCH> the dist-upgrade ?
[03:48] <MushroomKingdom> Both
[03:48] <DaskreeCH> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[03:49] <MushroomKingdom> K, it's starting
[03:49] <CrOnOs> :) well some brute force always work
[03:49] <MushroomKingdom> And now I try to startx again?
[03:50] <DaskreeCH> sure
[03:50] <MushroomKingdom> same problem
[03:50] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, someone has just informed me that /home may be full
[03:50] <DaskreeCH> >_<
[03:50] <DaskreeCH> of course that's why it's an empty file
[03:50] <MushroomKingdom> I did just install a new program, and that may be why? How would I delete it?
[03:50] <DaskreeCH> df -h
[03:51] <DaskreeCH> anything look particualrly fat ?
[03:51] <MushroomKingdom> /dev/sda1 is 75%
[03:51] <DaskreeCH> df -h | pastebinit
[03:52] <MushroomKingdom> It doesn't show my NTFS partition.
[03:52] <MushroomKingdom> Well, 73%
[03:52] <DaskreeCH> that's the highest one?
[03:53] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah
[03:53] <MushroomKingdom> I just got a shit load of errors trying to pastebinit
[03:53] <DaskreeCH> That's probably not it then. Do you have home partition ?
[03:53] <DaskreeCH> !ohmy
[03:54] <MushroomKingdom> I have my main partition, /dev/sda
[03:54] <MushroomKingdom> and my NTFS
[03:54] <MushroomKingdom> Yes, /home is a part of it
[03:54] <DaskreeCH> sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:55] <MushroomKingdom> Done
[03:55] <DaskreeCH> ok
[03:56] <DaskreeCH> Hmm lets try something run X&
[03:57] <MushroomKingdom> [1] 8938
[03:57] <MushroomKingdom> Then bash command, cant run x or something. Then the error I got from startx
[03:57] <MushroomKingdom> Erm
[03:57] <MushroomKingdom> wrong window
[03:57] <MushroomKingdom> -bash: x command not found
[03:57] <MushroomKingdom> and the number
[04:00] <MushroomKingdom> Any ideas?
[04:00] <eFrag|Pulse> Ok
[04:00] <eFrag|Pulse> So same problem. Even with firestarter
[04:01] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Big letter X
[04:02] <DaskreeCH> followed by &
[04:02] <CrOnOs> Mushroom sorry can you tell me again what is the message x give you when you run it? seem got lost on what was the problem
[04:02] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: so even after getting firestarter setup completely. I still have the problem with certain hosts not resolving.
[04:03] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: install bind
[04:03] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH:  and do own dns server?
[04:03] <CrOnOs> frag have you check if the problem is not on your Pc not on the laptop
[04:03] <DaskreeCH> on the router machine
[04:04] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: yup
[04:04] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: like I said before. All hosts resolve fine on the router.
[04:05] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: you honestly think that bind will solve the problem? I'd rather not go through the trouble if it likely won't work. I mean I've even tried using opendns dns entries and it still gives the same issue
[04:05] <eFrag|Pulse> its a dns issue from router to pc
[04:05] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: router being the linux machine ?
[04:06] <DaskreeCH> Koopa Troopas attack!!!
[04:06] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: got a blank screen after X& and had to reboot
[04:06] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: both machines are linux xD
[04:06] <eFrag|Pulse> however DaskreeCH
[04:07] <eFrag|Pulse> If I boot to win
[04:07] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: Yeah I just meant the router isn't a Linksys box or something
[04:07] <eFrag|Pulse> and set the dns entries manually on win, they work fine, and all hosts resolve
[04:07] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: you couldn't alt+ctrl+F1 out ?
[04:07] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: nope. its a kubuntu lappy
[04:07] <MushroomKingdom> Nope
[04:07] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: you set them manually in linux as well?
[04:08] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: nameserver 68.87.73.246
[04:08] <eFrag|Pulse> nameserver 68.87.71.230
[04:08] <DaskreeCH> and you can ping them ?
[04:08] <eFrag|Pulse> are my resolv.conf entries, and are exact replicas of those on the router box
[04:09] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: yes, I can ping both dns IPs
[04:09] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: nope
[04:12] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Do you have two machines ?
[04:12] <MushroomKingdom> I'm sitting in front of my parents Windows machine
[04:13] <DaskreeCH> Sweet you can putty across
[04:13] <MushroomKingdom> With my lappy in front in command line for irssi
[04:13] <DaskreeCH> you have ssh installed?
[04:13] <MushroomKingdom> nope.
[04:13] <DaskreeCH> sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:13] <MushroomKingdom> I dont want to communicate with parents computer. Never needed to. It's being used for aim
[04:13] <MushroomKingdom> I don't want to ssh them
[04:14] <MushroomKingdom> I've got an idea to try, I'll be right back.
[04:14] <eFrag|Pulse> any ideas DaskreeCH?
[04:14]  * DaskreeCH waits in tenstion
[04:14] <DaskreeCH> tension even
[04:14] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: Bind :)
[04:15] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: honestly think it'll work? And I'm ill-versed on bind =/
[04:15] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: Last I checked you can apt-get install bind and it's pretty much ready to go
[04:16] <DaskreeCH> swap your nameserver to the router machine (which should already have a static IP) and you should be good
[04:24] <MushroomKingdom> DaskreeCH: I'm on the livecd
[04:24] <MushroomKingdom> Can't delete anything off the partition though
[04:26] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Sure you can
[04:26] <CrOnOs> mushroom do you remember the error message i know dask is helping you but i want to see if there is a Xauthority angle to this problem
[04:26] <MushroomKingdom> It's not letting me
[04:26] <MushroomKingdom> hm, Ok
[04:26] <MushroomKingdom> What do you need me to do?
[04:27] <CrOnOs> just tell me what the error say just that
[04:27] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, for startx?
[04:27] <CrOnOs> yes
[04:28] <MushroomKingdom> K, I'm on the livecd right now. How to I get to my main account?
[04:28] <MushroomKingdom> I get ubuntu@ubuntu with ctrl alt f2
[04:29] <CrOnOs> nvm doit when you finish w dashreech i will keep reading
[04:29] <eFrag|Pulse> ok DaskreeCH: bind9 is installed
[04:29] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: mkdir mine and sudo mount /dev/sda1 mine && ls mine
[04:29] <eFrag|Pulse> Anything I need to check or configure that you remember?
[04:30] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: not that I recall but if you want just google ubuntu <version you are using> bind
[04:31] <MushroomKingdom> Brb, going off live
[04:34] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, k back on command line
[04:34] <MushroomKingdom> You wanted startx?
[04:35] <CrOnOs> well i wanted the initial error
[04:35] <CrOnOs> the one you get from start kde
[04:35] <MushroomKingdom> (EE) Error compiling keymap (server-0)
[04:35] <MushroomKingdom> (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap
[04:35] <CrOnOs> your screen show that? or your log file?
[04:36] <MushroomKingdom> Screen
[04:36] <CrOnOs> so it say that and dies
[04:36] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah
[04:37] <MushroomKingdom> Cannot open "/tmp/server-0.xkm" to write keyboard description
[04:38] <CrOnOs> have you try run it whit sudo just to know is not a privileges problem?
[04:38] <MushroomKingdom> Sudo startx did something
[04:39] <CrOnOs> what?
[04:39] <MushroomKingdom> Holy shit it's loading
[04:39] <MushroomKingdom> :O
[04:39] <MushroomKingdom> DUDE
[04:39] <MushroomKingdom> YOU are my GOD
[04:39] <FloodBotK1> MushroomKingdom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:39] <CrOnOs> not realy
[04:39] <MushroomKingdom> Lol
[04:39] <MushroomKingdom> Pardon my language again
[04:39] <CrOnOs> but we know now that is a privilege problem
[04:39] <CrOnOs> you shud not work on root mode
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> :( Yeah
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> So how do I fix this?
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> KDE works, it's reset back to crap mode but it works. Time to tweak again I guess
[04:40] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: afaict From pulse-desktop.local (192.168.0.100) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[04:40] <eFrag|Pulse> Still same problem
[04:41] <CrOnOs> well i guess your user has to have acces to write on temp
[04:41] <CrOnOs> wait
[04:41] <MushroomKingdom> That's odd, why only now is it doing this?
[04:41] <CrOnOs> something changed the privileges
[04:42] <eFrag|Pulse> funny though. Because I'm using this pc here -_- just can't connect to certain sites/hosts -_-
[04:42] <CrOnOs> beware efrag is hauted
[04:42] <MushroomKingdom> Aw
[04:42] <eFrag|Pulse> seriously -_-
[04:42] <_abbenormal> hello all
[04:43] <CrOnOs> mushroom im trying to think about what to do now
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom> So how do I change privlages back?
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom> Kay
[04:43] <eFrag|Pulse> whats annoying is, it works right now winblowz =/
[04:43] <CrOnOs> hi abbe
[04:43] <_abbenormal> hi CrOnOs
[04:43] <eFrag|Pulse> works right on*
[04:44] <CrOnOs> i know what you have to do but i dont realy know exacty to what do you have to change privileges
[04:44] <CrOnOs> congraz efrag hope it keeps this way
[04:44] <eFrag|Pulse> CrOnOs: doesn't work on linux though -_-
[04:44] <CrOnOs> hi abbe what can we do for you
[04:44] <eFrag|Pulse> which is frustrating me.
[04:45] <_abbenormal> think im hopeless lol
[04:45] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: you still around
[04:45] <eFrag|Pulse> ?
[04:45] <CrOnOs> frag ask on ubuntu server they may have more exp on this stuff maybe?
[04:45] <_abbenormal> im working on a htpc setup using kubuntu
[04:45] <MushroomKingdom> Cr0n0s: K
[04:45] <_abbenormal> ive got it working and need some pointers to fine tune it
[04:46] <_abbenormal> how to change fonts and stop it from going into screen saver
[04:46] <CrOnOs> log off from kde mushroom
[04:46] <_abbenormal> i do have time so no rush
[04:47] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, k one sec
[04:48] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, logged out
[04:48] <_abbenormal> im just very glad to be where im at with it
[04:48] <CrOnOs> i cant help using gnome dont realy know how kde works on eye candy
[04:48] <_abbenormal> cool
[04:48] <MushroomKingdom> What now?
[04:48] <_abbenormal> there will be someone else allong
[04:49] <eFrag|Pulse> Anyone have any experience with using ubuntu as a router? I'm using it to route from a wireless connection to an eth0 connection, where a single pc client picks it up. (internet connection sharing). I can get it working MOSTLY, except some sites/hosts are not accessible, nor even pingable.
[04:49] <eFrag|Pulse> incase anyone around now can help :P
[04:49] <_abbenormal> ive been working on this for over 4 months so im just happy to have this as its now showing me im not so dumb lmao
[04:49] <CrOnOs> look for this file
[04:49] <CrOnOs> "/tmp/server-0.xkm
[04:49] <MushroomKingdom> bash says it doesn't exist
[04:50] <CrOnOs> well try to make a new one from your user
[04:50] <MushroomKingdom> with " I get a > now
[04:50] <MushroomKingdom> > and a cursor
[04:52] <CrOnOs> so did you make that file?
[04:52] <MushroomKingdom> How?
[04:52] <CrOnOs> go to /tmp dir
[04:53] <MushroomKingdom> What command to change directories? cd?
[04:53] <MushroomKingdom> Yeah, ok what now
[04:53] <CrOnOs> vi server-0.xkm  and do :wq
[04:53] <MushroomKingdom> Ok
[04:54] <MushroomKingdom> I get a cursor, bunch oh ~'s and server-0.xkm new file
[04:54] <CrOnOs> do :wq
[04:54] <MushroomKingdom> did
[04:54] <CrOnOs> enter
[04:54] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: not really I'm feeling dizzy and I don't knw why
[04:54] <MushroomKingdom> Kay
[04:54] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH:  too much alcohol?
[04:54] <eFrag|Pulse> :P
[04:55] <MushroomKingdom> Cant open file for writing it says
[04:55] <MushroomKingdom> press enter or enter command
[04:56] <CrOnOs> so that is the problem your user cant write on /tmp dir
[04:56] <MushroomKingdom> Why would that be?
[04:56] <MushroomKingdom> How can I change this?
[04:56] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: what were you trying to ping when you got that error?
[04:56] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: any host that I can't connect to. Which is quite a bit.
[04:57] <CrOnOs> guys some help we know now mushroom problem but im rusty on comand line
[04:57] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: ls -l / | grep tmp
[04:57] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: what's that say?
[04:58] <DaskreeCH> _abbenormal: Did you check for the screensaver/font etc settings in system settings ?
[04:58] <CrOnOs> i resume he was able to run kde from sudo so must be a privilege problem the error say can x cant write on /tmp dir
[04:58] <MushroomKingdom> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root
[04:59] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: thats very very wrong
[04:59] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[05:00] <DaskreeCH> then run the ls command again (up twice) and let me see
[05:01] <MushroomKingdom> drwxrwxrwt
[05:01] <MushroomKingdom>  10 root root
[05:01] <DaskreeCH> ok lets just go full monty and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart then ty login
[05:01] <CrOnOs> mushroom do you speak french?
[05:01] <DaskreeCH> wait 10 root ?
[05:01] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: and if you ssh into the server it works fine?
[05:02] <DaskreeCH> anyway do your thing
[05:02] <MushroomKingdom> No sorry
[05:02] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: yes. I can access all services on the box itself and most on the web
[05:02] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: Doesn't work?
[05:03] <MushroomKingdom> One sec
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> Uh, gives me a startup error
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> kstartupconfig4 doesnt exist or fails
[05:05] <DaskreeCH> >_>
[05:05] <DaskreeCH> ls -l /var | grep tmp
[05:05] <MushroomKingdom> Same error
[05:07] <DaskreeCH> error for what command?
[05:09] <MushroomKingdom> I did that ls one, then started kdm again and got the same login error
[05:09] <MushroomKingdom> I get a 4 root root this time
[05:10] <CrOnOs> did you try start kde from comand line
[05:10] <MushroomKingdom> I restarted kdm from command line
[05:11] <CrOnOs> not kdm just kde same you did whit sudo
[05:12] <MushroomKingdom> K
[05:12] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: what's the permissions on /var/tmp ?
[05:12] <MushroomKingdom> Uh
[05:13] <_abbenormal> thanks DaskreeCH i googled it should have looked before i asked but was being lazy
[05:13] <DaskreeCH> _abbenormal: And ended up looking lazy. Good job!
[05:13] <DaskreeCH> Hope you get it working as you want
[05:14] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: The ls -l /var | grep tmp will tell you
[05:14] <DaskreeCH> It's the rwx strong
[05:14] <DaskreeCH> string
[05:14] <DaskreeCH> of letters
[05:15] <MushroomKingdom> drwxrwxrwt
[05:16] <DaskreeCH> Hmm that should be ok then
[05:16] <DaskreeCH> and startx doesn't work ?
[05:16] <MushroomKingdom> Nope
[05:16] <MushroomKingdom> I'll try again
[05:17] <MushroomKingdom> Nope, error message again
[05:17] <MushroomKingdom> same as last time with the kstartup whatnot
[05:18] <_abbenormal> its working better so i dont mind looking
[05:18] <MushroomKingdom> Says something about a nVidia driver not compatible or something
[05:18] <MushroomKingdom> The only error I get now is a bad NVIDIA driver
[05:18] <CrOnOs> well that seems like kde problem i cant helpp there
[05:19] <MushroomKingdom> How can I install that driver?
[05:19] <CrOnOs> cya guys and good luck
[05:19] <MushroomKingdom> Thanks
[05:19] <MushroomKingdom> later
[05:19] <eFrag|Pulse> I'm convinced that ICS hates me and so does linux routing -_-
[05:19] <MushroomKingdom> So.. Does anyone know how I can get that driver?
[05:19] <eFrag|Pulse> its something client side DaskreeCH
[05:19] <eFrag|Pulse> Because in win, it works fine
[05:20] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: hmm try 4.2.2.2 for the DNS
[05:20] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: why 4.2.2.2?
[05:21] <DaskreeCH> cause it's easy to remember?
[05:21] <eFrag|Pulse> lmao xD
[05:21] <DaskreeCH> MushroomKingdom: what video card do you have ?
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> Nvidia 8600 I do believe
[05:22] <DaskreeCH> I think that's still supported
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> It is, but I dont have it anymore
[05:22] <DaskreeCH> the driver?
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> eah
[05:24] <DaskreeCH> Do you remember which driver it was?
[05:24] <DaskreeCH> nvidia has like 12
[05:24] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: so if I do 4.2.2.2 for the dns, is it actually supposed to resolve to anything?
[05:25] <eFrag|Pulse> cuz imma have to reboot to test the changes
[05:25] <MushroomKingdom> I added the kernel, didnt have that
[05:25] <MushroomKingdom> Gonna reboot
[05:25] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: To test dns?
[05:25] <DaskreeCH> I seriously doubt you need to reboot to test dns
[05:25] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: yeah. unless there is a way to make resolv.conf actually update properly.
[05:25] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: you are in Linux now?
[05:26] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: mhm
[05:26] <DaskreeCH> what sites can you ping that work already ?
[05:26] <eFrag|Pulse> google
[05:26] <eFrag|Pulse> lol
[05:26] <DaskreeCH> irc.ubuntu.com obviously >_>
[05:26] <DaskreeCH> well ping it then
[05:28] <eFrag|Pulse> bleh
[05:28] <eFrag|Pulse> even after down/upping the if it keeps tossing the old dns server
[05:29] <eFrag|Pulse> just updating resolv.conf and then trying to ping the same sites = same results DaskreeCH
[05:30] <DaskreeCH> ok try change the dns server to .2.4.4.4
[05:31] <DaskreeCH> That shouldn't exist  so we will see if it's a cache thing
[05:32] <eFrag|Pulse> unable to ping anything
[05:33] <DaskreeCH> \o/
[05:33] <DaskreeCH> ok so it's not cached and updating your resolv.conf works
[05:33] <DaskreeCH> so put it back to some DNS server
[05:34] <DaskreeCH> 65.183.0.76 or 200.10.152.232 or 4.2.2.2 or one other you know
[05:34] <eFrag|Pulse> yeah its back to 4.2.2.2
[05:36] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: I'm quite confused -_-
[05:36] <DaskreeCH> and pinging sites again ?
[05:36] <eFrag|Pulse> yup
[05:36] <DaskreeCH> which site can't you ping?
[05:36] <eFrag|Pulse> microsoft, swik.net, etc
[05:37] <eFrag|Pulse> quite a few
[05:37] <eFrag|Pulse> just going down google now
[05:37] <DaskreeCH> they don't resolve?
[05:37] <eFrag|Pulse> dslreports.com
[05:37] <eFrag|Pulse> They resolve, but wont negotiate. I guess thats the best way to explain it
[05:38] <DaskreeCH> ping 209.123.109.175
[05:38] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: From 192.168.0.100 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[05:38] <cje> hi, does anyone know a good freenode irc channel for Linux games?
[05:39] <DaskreeCH> #gametome
[05:39] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: wha'ts you IP address?
[05:40] <DaskreeCH> your
[05:41] <cje> DaskreeCH, thx!
[05:41] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: 71.63.71.100
[05:42] <DaskreeCH> then why the heck is it trying to contact 192.168.0.100 ?
[05:42] <eFrag|Pulse> thats a from address
[05:42] <eFrag|Pulse> my router ip is 192.168.0.1
[05:42] <eFrag|Pulse> client ip on the network would be 192.168.0.100
[05:43] <DaskreeCH> which client is that?
[05:43] <eFrag|Pulse> only client on network
[05:44] <eFrag|Pulse> client is the one im currently connecting with DaskreeCH
[05:44] <DaskreeCH> so that's your computers' ip address
[05:44] <eFrag|Pulse> yes, internal IP addy
[05:44] <DaskreeCH> and you can ping 192.168.0.1
[05:44] <eFrag|Pulse> yup, and 0.1 can ping me
[05:46] <cje> Are there any good Freenode channels for Linux games other than #gametome ?
[05:47] <DaskreeCH> what's 0,1's gateway ?
[05:47] <eFrag|Pulse> This makes absolutely no sense DaskreeCH.
[05:47] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: I know I'm trying to figure out where failures are coming from
[05:47] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: it has no gateway assigned, nor should it
[05:48] <eFrag|Pulse> gateway according to route command for if=eth0 is: *
[05:48] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: then how does it see the internet ?
[05:49] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: remember its using Internet connection sharing, via firestarter. (This same problem happened with manual setup).
[05:49] <DaskreeCH> ?
[05:49] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: my wlan0 interface is the External interface, and the eth0 is the internal interface
[05:50] <eFrag|Pulse> basically its using packet forwarding + nat to get back and forth
[05:51] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:52] <eFrag|Pulse> on client = 0
[05:52] <yannick__> y a t il quelqu un qui parle francais
[05:52] <eFrag|Pulse> = 1 on router
[05:52] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: Well I normally just set that up myself if you look up linux router there is a quite a few howtos on it
[05:52] <DaskreeCH> !fr | yannick__
[05:53] <yannick__> DaskreeCH comment joint on ce canll ubuntu fr
[05:55] <yannick__> oui fr
[05:55] <DaskreeCH> yannick__: tu écris /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:56] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: I followed those mate =/
[05:56] <DaskreeCH> and you still get this half way dns resolution ?
[05:56] <eFrag|Pulse> I never come asking for help unless I do the research and atleast try first, and yes DaskreeCH
[05:56] <DaskreeCH> oh you put your router as the dns server btw /
[05:56] <DaskreeCH> ?
[05:57] <eFrag|Pulse> I tried.
[05:57] <DaskreeCH> it resolves some but not all ?
[05:57] <eFrag|Pulse> mhm
[05:57] <DaskreeCH> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:58] <yannick__> peux tu juste me dire comme faire pour lire un cd ca fais 2 heure que je me fais chier
[05:58] <eFrag|Pulse> on router or client?
[05:58] <DaskreeCH> I have no idea what that should do but *shrugs*
[05:58] <eFrag|Pulse> !fr | yannick__
[05:58] <DaskreeCH> yannick__: Audio Cd ?
[05:58] <eFrag|Pulse> networking restart doesnt work on client
[05:59] <DaskreeCH> eFrag|Pulse: ##networking I would wager
[05:59] <eFrag|Pulse> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[05:59] <DaskreeCH> It's a crapshoot in there for me though sometimes the dudes in there solve networking stuff left and right other times no one in there has a clue
[06:00] <DaskreeCH> yannick__: you should have a blue square and CD by the clock on the panel Click it then click the CD you inserted
[06:00] <DaskreeCH> if it's an audio Cd then Amarok will read it
[06:01] <DaskreeCH> If you want to convert it to MP3 or Ogg in dolphin press ctrl+L and type audiocd:/
[06:06] <eFrag|Pulse> DaskreeCH: if they ever even answer :P
[06:07] <DaskreeCH> Dude the only place it's light now is like over the pacific
[06:08] <supergear> hawaii
[06:09] <supergear> .au
[06:47] <Captain_Haddock> !encoding
[06:51] <Captain_Haddock> anybody aware of a good video encoding app with a proper GUI?
[06:51] <eFrag|Pulse> Captain_Haddock: ffmpeg is great, and it has many gui interfaces out there.
[06:52] <anonimous_> !хуй
[06:52] <Captain_Haddock> eFrag|Pulse: do you have a recommendation for the GUI?
[06:52] <anonimous_> hi everybody
[06:53] <DaskreeCH> !ru
[06:53] <DaskreeCH> Hi
[06:53] <anonimous_> !en
[06:53] <eFrag|Pulse> Captain_Haddock: I think the most popular one is WinFF (contrary to name, it is for linux)
[06:54] <anonimous_> #ubuntu must be chineese only
[06:54] <Captain_Haddock> eFrag|Pulse: cheers :)
[06:54] <eFrag|Pulse> Captain_Haddock: website located here: http://www.biggmatt.com/winff/
[06:55]  * Captain_Haddock is installing the winff package via apt atm
[06:55] <anonimous_> 1c
[06:58] <eFrag|Pulse> Captain_Haddock: the one in the repos is kinda old. Try http://www.winff.org/
[07:00] <Captain_Haddock> eFrag|Pulse: ah, he's also got a debian repo
[07:15] <Captain_Haddock> winff has a hidden dependency: xterm :P
[07:21] <supergear_> good night boys and girls and suv_98
[07:29] <DaskreeCH> night
[08:10] <ubsafder> how can i c. i don't care about the content of the files . i am just looking for file that are in one and not in the other . just comparing names
[08:21] <Smurphy> ubsafder: check out diff ? :)
[08:24] <ubsafder> i was lokking for something like windiff
[08:25] <ubsafder> graphical if it exists
[08:26] <Smurphy> ubsafder: Hmmm... That is hard ... :) Sorry. I only work on CLI .
[08:51] <eeos> hi I would like to buy a desktop with ubuntu preinstalled or no os, and 3 years NBD on site warranty .... does anyone know whether this is possible (UK)?
[08:56] <phh> eeos: dell ?
[08:57] <eeos> phh: negative, already looked
[08:59] <phh> eeos: even in small entreprise area ?
[09:07] <eeos> phh: I am trying to chat with one of their online advisors
[09:08] <phh> good luck
[09:08] <eeos> phh: well, it looks more like an offline advisor
[09:08] <eeos> phh: asked for a minutes being away for 6
[09:09] <phh> haha
[09:58] <eeos> incredible half an hour to discover that they did not have the specifications I required with no OS or linux!  that was the list-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/220368/
[09:58] <Laeborg> how to do a dns flush ?
[09:59] <eeos> phh: incredible half an hour to discover that they did not have the specifications I required with no OS or linux!  that was the list-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/220368/
[09:59] <Laeborg> !dns flush
[10:00] <aftertaf> To flush the DNS cache, restart the nscd daemon. : To restart the nscd daemon, use the command `/etc/init.d/nscd restart`.
[10:01] <Laeborg> bash: /etc/init.d/nscd: No such file or directory
[10:03] <aftertaf> argh :)
[10:03] <aftertaf> how to give a crap reply without even checking !!! sorry :)
[10:04] <km82rt> hi
[10:04] <aftertaf> try avahi daemon in that case.
[10:05] <km82rt> I am having trouble with kmail and gpg on kubuntu. Basically kmail freezes because it launches a synchronous call to gpg. Even though gpg-agent is running it cannot connect
[10:15] <[-Haza-]>  Hey folks. Whats the name of the kubuntu screen capture tool?
[10:15] <[-Haza-]> My print screen key is not working so i want to make a shortcut to the tool on my desktop
[10:18] <aftertaf> Ksnapshot
[10:19] <[-Haza-]> aftertaf: Cheers mate
[10:19] <[-Haza-]> :)
[10:19] <aftertaf> :)
[10:19] <aftertaf> Alt-F2, then kscr   .... the rest was easy :)
[10:20] <km82rt> does anyone have kmail working on kubuntu with gpg encrption?
[10:21] <[-Haza-]> aftertaf: One more question mate. How might i make a shortcut and place it on a taskbar like a widget?
[10:26] <[-Haza-]> aftertaf: No worries. Found it :)
[10:35] <aftertaf> :)
[10:35] <aftertaf> kde4 godness
[10:35] <aftertaf>  +o
[10:48] <sebr> hey dudes, trying to update to karmic, but running sudo do-release-upgrade says "no new release found"
[11:07] <podstavsky> did you try to run update first? :D
[11:08] <Mamarok> sebr: Karmic questions should go to #ubuntu+1 :)
[11:09] <Mamarok> podstavsky: you can bet on it he did an update first :)
[11:10] <podstavsky> yeah - it was silly :) sorry
[11:13] <podstavsky> Mamarok: I'll ask you one question - sometimes I get a kwin crash with tonnes of artifacts and graphic disasters - it's only when I'm working in inkscape or watching a film
[11:13] <podstavsky> do you have those graphic errors too?
[11:13] <Mamarok> podstavsky: graphic card, desktop effects enabled?
[11:13] <Mamarok> which KDE?
[11:13] <podstavsky> desktop effects enabled, nv9600gt, 4.3RC2
[11:14] <Mamarok> hm, I can't test, don't have dekstop effects eanbled, also I don't use inkscape
[11:14] <Mamarok> but watching a movie works fine here with dragonplayer
[11:14] <Mamarok> no artifacts
[11:14] <Mamarok> nor kwin crashes
[11:15] <Mamarok> podstavsky: there is a desktop effects toggle shortcut, disable those for watching a movie maybe? Unless you really have enough ram to handle everything
[11:16] <Mamarok> which measn more than 2 Gb, and a lot of ram on the card too
[11:16] <Mamarok> means*
[11:16] <podstavsky> um - thank you :) I've noticed also that after reboot the artifacts were placed on screen again but turning to Oxygen to Air and back the problem dissapear
[11:17] <Mamarok> so only with the "Air" theme?
[11:17] <podstavsky> RAM - maybe also - sometimes the desktop effect are shutting down because of RAM
[11:17] <podstavsky> I've got the 1GB module so it's probably a small size
[11:17] <Mamarok> podstavsky: well, there is no miracle, compositing uses a lot of ram, so does graphic intensive stuff like inkscape and movie players
[11:17] <podstavsky> yes :) now it's clear I think
[11:18] <podstavsky> thank you Mamarok
[11:18] <Mamarok> hence, to use every bling needs tons of ram
[11:18] <Mamarok> podstavsky: yaw :)
[11:48] <toby_> podstavsky: I have 2GB of RAM and a Geforce 6600 GT and compositing is too sluggish to use.
[11:48] <toby_> to give a point of comparison
[11:52] <Smurphy> toby_: Strange. Using KUbuntu 9.04 on a mac-mini using a MG945 onboard GPU ... and Compositing is not slugish at all ...
[11:53] <podstavsky> toby_: Well - right - I've burned up one of my module and maybe that's the reason. Some time ago I was working @ 2GB and such as crash didn't take place. I want to say also that I'm not using many blings - just taskbar transparency, konsole transparency, a box switch, um what else... Not so many overall :)
[11:53] <podstavsky> and the GPU is not the main reason of sluggish compositing
[11:54] <Smurphy> Yeah - Cube is fluent here - on a 1600x1200 Display powered by an old mac-mini ...
[11:54] <podstavsky> I've tested too KDE4.3 @ GMA X3100 and there was not any problems
[11:55] <Smurphy> damn - a root user has joined the channel ... <- dumb as every Windows User ...
[11:55] <podstavsky> :D
[11:58] <toby_> I have quite a big desktop. 1360x768 on one monitor and 1680 x 1050 on the other
[11:58] <Smurphy> toby_: as far as I know - in dual-screen mode - compositing is disabled by the driver...
[11:59] <podstavsky> wow! never knew that :)
[11:59] <Smurphy> especially nvidia drivers do that... Dunno about the intel-driver. Have only one DVI port on the mac-mini :D
[12:04] <yannick__> hello how use my olitec stick usb 802.11g wireless for conect to my network wifi please help me
[12:08] <ilkin> hello guys
[12:08] <ilkin> how to know which packages are installed on Kubuntu 9.04?
[12:11] <toby_> Smurphy: That's interesting! I'll try disabling it when I get home.
[12:11] <Smurphy> toby_: Try it ;)
[12:13] <podstavsky> ilkin: have you got for ex. synaptic? there is a tab with installed packages
[12:19] <ilkin> I have default applications only
[12:20] <Smurphy> ilkin: then install synaptic ...
[12:20] <yannick__> can I use pcmcia siemens gigaset pc card 54 for wifi on linux
[12:21] <Smurphy> yannick__: try it out... If you are asking these questions like that - you have to tell us which chipset is inside...
[12:22] <yannick__> ?????? how I know that's ????? I'm new on linux
[12:22] <Smurphy> yannick__: That is the problem.
[12:23] <Smurphy> yannick__: put the card in - and type in: lspcmcia
[12:23] <Smurphy> Should provide you mroe information on the chipset and the card type.
[12:23] <yannick__> ok I try
[12:24] <yannick__> yenta ????
[12:24] <Smurphy> yenta socket ??? C' est du cardbus probabelement
[12:26] <ilkin> then how to download all in one package of synaptic? I mean with dependant packs?
[12:29] <Smurphy> je sais pas. la carte existe ...
[12:30] <Mamarok> !fr | Smurphy, yannick__
[12:30] <Smurphy> Mamarok: Yannick - yes - Me -> German ;)
[12:31] <Smurphy> Mamarok: Did forget to append a /msg in front - that's all ..
[12:31] <Sorinello> hello. I've installed Kubuntu, but I have too few options in the menus.. I can't find nothing, no configuration editor, no network editor, no nothing
[12:31] <Sorinello> it's dissapointing
[12:31] <Smurphy> yannick__: Je peus me logger dans ton systeme ? ou t' as un firewall devant ?
[12:31] <Mamarok> Smurphy: English, please
[12:32] <Smurphy> Mamarok: Strange. didn't know we got cops in here ...
[12:32] <Mamarok> Smurphy: there are rules, so pleas respect them
[12:32] <Mamarok> please*
[12:32] <Smurphy> Mamarok: This is a Open-Minded chat  Source world...
[12:32] <Smurphy> Mamarok: Yes Cap'tn...
[12:32] <Mamarok> Smurphy: thanks
[12:33] <Sorinello> can someone explain to me .. how to get the more advanced sutffs in the menus ?
[12:33] <Sorinello> this menu is for children, made not to harm the computer
[12:36] <Smurphy> yannick__: ouaips - c' est celui de ton utilisateur..
[12:37] <Mamarok> Smurphy: last warning: English!
[12:47] <Sorinello> How can I install eclipse in Kubuntu ? I doesn't find it in the Add Remove Software.
[12:47] <Sorinello> QUanta isn't found either
[12:51] <login_> oieeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:00] <MushroomKingdom> Hi, I cant log into my main account on Kubuntu 9.04 KDE 4.2 I get an error telling me that kstartupconfig4 doesn't exist. I get Error Code 3, does any one know how to fix this?
[13:09] <DaskreeCH> !info kstartupconfig4
[13:10] <DaskreeCH> !find kstartupconfig4
[13:10] <what_if> I'm looking for a way in ubuntu to add " -h " to every call of ls.... someone mentioned adding it to LS_OPTIONS... which seems to not exist on Ubuntu, any ideas?
[13:10] <DaskreeCH> what_if: Alias it
[13:19] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:19] <DaskreeCH> Howdy
[13:20] <what_if> DaskreeCH: this does not add it to every call of ls though as alias is very literal. for example if I call ls -a... it does not add -h. Would like to modify the behavior/output of ls. Is this even possible ?
[13:21] <DaskreeCH> what_if: Have you tried aliasing it?
[13:22] <what_if> DaskreeCH: yes, it has the behavior I just stated, unfortunately
[13:23] <DaskreeCH> what_if: Oh? how did you set it?
[13:26] <what_if> DaskreeCH: added it to ~/.bash_aliases
[13:28] <what_if> hold on.... wtf. Something is overriding my alias of ls to "ls=ls --color=auto" instead.... bust be called later on...
[13:29] <DaskreeCH> what_if: Uh huh
[13:29] <what_if> any idea what is called _after_ .bash_aliases ?
[13:29] <DaskreeCH> in ~/.bashrc at the bottom try alias ls='ls --color=auto -h'
[13:29] <DaskreeCH> logout and back in of course
[13:31] <what_if> ahhh I see now. .bashrc calls .bash_aliases, then sets an alias for ls overriding mine.
[13:31] <DaskreeCH> something like that
[13:32] <DaskreeCH> what_if: actually there is a if [ -x /usr/bin/dircolors ] line in .bashrc that sets the --color alias just add it to that
[13:33] <DaskreeCH> so append -h on the alias string
[13:36] <what_if> I did a quick and dirty.... moved the call to ~/.bash_aliases (in ~/.bashrc) to after the setting of the ls alias, thereby overriding it. As it should be IMO.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> DaskreeCH, what does this mean ?  http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2009-July/069714.html
[13:43] <BluesKaj> kernel vulnerability ?
[13:44] <DaskreeCH> BluesKaj: Yes
[13:48] <DT> anyone here know how to run QEMU?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> !qemu
[13:49] <DT> yeah, it's not helping me anymore
[13:50] <DT> I can't get it to connect to the internet
[13:52] <DT> my first question is do i need to have the drivers from my networking card installed on my VM?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> sorry DT, I've never used qemu..VB works ok and it's more flexible from what i've heard
[13:53] <DT> does VB use the same .img files?
[13:53] <DaskreeCH> Fairly certain they can be converted if not
[13:54] <DT> and how might i install VB?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> !VB
[13:57] <BluesKaj> !virtual box
[13:57] <DaskreeCH> !virtualbox
[13:57] <BluesKaj> !info virtual box
[13:57] <DaskreeCH> BluesKaj: One word
[13:57] <BluesKaj> !info virtualbox
[13:57] <BluesKaj> heh
[13:57] <DaskreeCH> !info virtualbox-ose
[13:58] <DaskreeCH> as noted by the blurb above
[13:58]  * BluesKaj takes the blinders off
[13:59] <DaskreeCH> !virtualbox is virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[14:02] <DT> ok, thanks
[14:03] <DT> trying something else before i do that tho
[14:06] <skyhunter> Hi, can someone help me to update "Wine 1.0.1" to "Wine 1.1.25"?
[14:06] <skyhunter> I have kubunto 9.0.4
[14:06] <skyhunter> Kubuntu
[14:07] <DaskreeCH> 9.04
[14:07] <DT> you might have to go to thier site and download it directly
[14:07] <DaskreeCH> !info wine
[14:08] <DaskreeCH> skyhunter: If you go to #winehq they have an ubuntu repo with the latest wine add that and update
[14:08] <DT> they are updated waaaay past that now
[14:08] <skyhunter> i cant get that to work
[14:08] <skyhunter> it just installs 1.0.1
[14:09] <skyhunter> i found a site which say that i have to build 1.1.25 from source
[14:09] <DaskreeCH> pastebin your sources.list
[14:09] <skyhunter> ok
[14:09] <DT> here: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[14:09] <DT> follow those directions
[14:09] <skyhunter> i followed them already
[14:10] <DT> you did the bottom part, both steps?
[14:11] <skyhunter> ye i think so xD
[14:11] <DT> ok, lets do them again then. open up console put in "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[14:11] <DT> with out the  ""
[14:12] <skyhunter> it says OK
[14:12] <DT> now "sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/jaunty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"
[14:13] <DT> and then "sudo apt-get update"
[14:13] <skyhunter> whats the site for pastebin
[14:13] <skyhunter> it downloaded something
[14:13] <DT> yes, it should have
[14:13] <DT> pastebin.org
[14:13] <DT> after the update finishes, put in "sudo apt-get install wine"
[14:14] <skyhunter> http://www.pastebin.org/2674
[14:14] <skyhunter> it did not update anything
[14:15] <DT> what did it say after you ran the update?
[14:15] <peabody> I've got a removable drive that I want to mount to a specific directory, but when I put an entry in /etc/fstab it halts my system on startup if it is not connected
[14:15] <skyhunter> this is what happend after sudp apt-get upadte
[14:15] <skyhunter> http://www.pastebin.org/2675
[14:16] <skyhunter> oh i think it does something now
[14:16] <skyhunter> i check the version moment
[14:17] <skyhunter> oh yea it worked xD
[14:17] <skyhunter> thanks
[14:17] <skyhunter> skyhunter@SkyHunter:~$ wine --version
[14:17] <skyhunter> wine-1.1.25
[14:17] <skyhunter> :D
[14:17] <FloodBotK1> skyhunter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <skyhunter> thanks DT
[14:17] <DT> no problem
[14:18] <DT> enjoy
[14:18] <skyhunter> =)
[14:18] <skyhunter> i hope battleforge will work now xD
[14:20] <GilJ> Hey guys I have a question
[14:20] <GilJ> How do I setup my $PATH so it checks a directory and all the directory's in it?
[14:20] <Dragnslcr> I don't think you can
[14:20] <DaskreeCH> GilJ: add the directory and all the directories undernetah it
[14:21] <GilJ> Ok thanks
[14:21] <Dragnslcr> I think PATH can only have specific directories
[14:21] <GilJ> And one more
[14:21] <GilJ> How do I disable the system bell? :D
[14:21] <jimmy51_home> i'm using krdc to connect to my windows xp workstation at work.  i've set it to the same resolution as my kubuntu machine here, but it chops the bottom off of the screen.  it's as if the RDP window is shifted down 50 pixels or something.  has anyone seen this?
[14:22] <jimmy51_home> it's really annoying, since the taskbar is offscreen
[14:22] <GilJ> jimmy51_home: Maybe it's because Ubuntu has a taskbar at the top of the screen too?:)
[14:27] <jimmy51_home> i don't know... i'm running kubuntu
[14:27] <jimmy51_home> with the taskbar at the bottom
[14:27] <jimmy51_home> it used to work fine.  one day i logged in and boom
[14:32] <peabody> I've got a removable drive that I want to mount to a specific directory, but when I put an entry in /etc/fstab it halts my system on startup if it is not connected
[14:36] <peabody> any ideas?
[14:36] <peabody> buehler?
[14:37] <Mamarok> peabody: label the drive so it get's mounted on startup, should also work when it's not connected
[14:37] <Mamarok> works for me here, 9.04
[14:37] <peabody> Mamarok: The drive is labeled
[14:37] <Mamarok> peabody: then it get's mounted under that label
[14:38] <peabody> I had to comment out hte fstab entry
[14:38] <Mamarok> if you want it to get mounted under another name, change the label, and don't forget to add the UUID
[14:38] <peabody> because it kept halting my system when it wasn't connected
[14:38] <Mamarok> peabody: works flawlessly here
[14:38] <peabody> it would drop me to a # prompt
[14:38] <Mamarok> what format is the drive in? ext3?
[14:38] <peabody> ghey
[14:39] <peabody> I know that's how it's supposed to work.. but blerg.. it's halted my system 3 times in a row when it was turned off
[14:39] <peabody> what options do you have in your fstab?
[14:39] <peabody> mine is relatime,errors=remount-ro 0      1
[14:40] <peabody> hmm.. maybe the errors is what is halting mine because it doesn't detect teh drive, then it can't remount the drive
[14:42] <Mamarok> mine is an external USB HD, let me see the fstab...
[14:42] <Mamarok>  ext3    relatime        0       2
[14:43] <peabody> ok that's what I just switched mine to
[14:43] <Mamarok> peabody: tell me if it worked
[14:43] <peabody> thx
[14:55] <DaskreeCH> morning jono
[15:02] <jono> hey DaskreeCH :)
[15:02] <DaskreeCH> jono: How are you?
[15:03] <jono> DaskreeCH, good thanks, you?
[15:03] <DaskreeCH> not looking forward to the day but battling it anyway
[15:07] <yurikoles>  is there amd64 debs of kdevelop4?
[15:09] <Zxcvb> will the kubuntu iso work if burned to a dvd?
[15:10] <darthanubis> lol
[15:10] <darthanubis> what kind of questions we have this morning
[15:11] <darthanubis> Zxcvb: only if it is a DVD ISO, google "ISO" and be enlightened
[15:11] <darthanubis> yurikoles: are there? Of course. Seek and ye shall find
[15:15] <bazhang> Zxcvb, sure you can burn cd iso to dvd, just a waste is all
[15:16] <bazhang> Zxcvb, there are also dvd iso if you wish to take the extra space up
[15:17] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: Be nice
[15:17] <DaskreeCH> yurikoles: Check packages.ubuntu.com
[15:20] <kubi> I've just installed kubuntu 9.04 but this command doesn't work: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" any idea why?
[15:21] <digmore> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:21] <bazhang> digmore, kdesu kate
[15:21] <ugur> hi everyone how can i mark my thread as solved in ubuntuforums ?
[15:22] <what_if> kubi: do you have kdesudo installed ?
[15:22] <kubi> letme check
[15:22] <kubi> not sure
[15:24] <kubi> what if kdesudo is installed
[15:24] <bazhang> kubi, you need to use kdesudo or kdesu when using graphical apps
[15:25] <kubi> se@kubuntu-desktop:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:25] <kubi> bash: kdesu: command not found
[15:25] <what_if> kubi: afaik.. kdesu is now kdesudo. No idea why
[15:26] <kubi> kdesudo works
[15:26] <digmore> good
[15:26] <kubi> thanks guys
[15:27] <kubi> I was reading the kubuntu guide at http://kubuntuguide.org/Jaunty#KDE_Project I gas is wrong
[15:29] <what_if> kubi: sortof.... the switch from kdesu to kdesudo is kindof new...
[15:36] <kubi> what's the command to reboot kubuntu from command line
[15:36] <what_if> reboot
[15:37] <panos-thessaloni> hi everyone
[15:37] <EagleScreen> hello
[15:40] <panos-thessaloni> did you know for Chrome Os Google details what open source have?
[15:40] <panos-thessaloni> what distro follow?
[15:42] <Pici> !ot | panos-thessaloni
[15:42] <bazhang> panos-thessaloni, try #googlechromeos
[15:43] <panos-thessaloni> nobody is here on channel googlechromeos
[15:45] <panos-thessaloni> I think that announce is not ready for the moment and I waiting for more specific time
[15:45] <bazhang> panos-thessaloni, here is Kubuntu only support; try /msg alis list *google* for a list of suitable channels, or head to #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <BluesKaj> panos-thessaloni, join #chromium
[15:46] <DaskreeCH> panos-thessaloni: #chromium
[15:47] <BluesKaj> DaskreeCH, he joined
[15:48] <what_if> I want to share a directory over ftp and http, but the KDE filesharing only has SMB and NFS (already enabled). What would be the easiest ftpd  and https to use? Used for LAN parties only and need FTP write support.
[15:48] <what_if> https=httpd (force of habit)
[15:48] <panos-thessaloni> thanks for advice BluesKaj
[15:51] <DaskreeCH> !ftp
[15:51] <DaskreeCH> !ftpd
[15:51] <DaskreeCH> what_if: ^^^
[15:52] <what_if> ty, will go down the list :)
[15:55] <kubi> how do I installed firefox 3.5 is trying to install 3.0
[15:57] <what_if> kubi: you must download from mozilla and manually install " www.getfirefox.com
[15:58] <DaskreeCH> kubi: You want Firefox 3 ?
[15:58] <DaskreeCH> 3.5 sorry
[15:58] <kubi> nyes
[15:58] <kubi> yes 3.5
[15:59] <DaskreeCH> !info firefox-3.5
[15:59] <kubi> thanks
[16:35] <vanRijn> re, all
[16:35] <vanRijn> does anyone know if PPA has KDE 4.3 RC2 at this point? or is it still RC1?
[16:35] <bazhang> its RC2 iirc
[16:36] <eagles0513875> vanRijn: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/89
[16:36] <vanRijn> eagles0513875: awesome, thank you! =:)
[16:36] <eagles0513875> no problem :)
[16:36] <DaskreeCH> which reminds me I should  update from the beta
[16:37] <vanRijn> that (combined with the fact that the Palm Pre SDK requires Ubuntu) might just be enough to push me to wipe OpenSUSE 11.1 from my laptop and install Ubuntu 9.04. =;)
[16:38] <DaskreeCH> >requires< Ubuntu ?
[16:38]  * DaskreeCH whispers install 9.10 
[16:40] <vanRijn> DaskreeCH: yeah, requires. and how stable is 9.10? it's still 3 months of instability, right?
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> vanRijn: Yeah I woudln't actaully recommend it until it hits beta unless you like rollercoasters that last hours
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> ubuntu unstable is seriously some of the most unstable stuff I've ever played with
[16:42] <DaskreeCH> not neccessarily cause it's broken all the time (which it is sometimes) but things just change so much from hour to hour
[17:10] <maximossj> hola
[17:11] <ubsafder> hello
[17:12] <ubsafder> can i give password scp access to a user and disable shell acces or runing any app on the machine ?
[17:17] <DaskreeCH> ubsafder: Yes
[17:23] <sarki_> what
[17:24] <DaskreeCH> This was brought to you by Random Giba for the day
[17:42] <denis_> !de
[17:47] <Ing_mauricio> hello
[17:47] <Ing_mauricio> i need some help
[17:47] <Ing_mauricio> plz
[17:47] <DaskreeCH> !ask
[17:47] <EagleScreen> Ing_mauricio: tell us
[17:47] <Ing_mauricio> i quit my panel
[17:48] <Ing_mauricio> and i dont know who restart it
[17:48] <Ing_mauricio> sorry my english
[17:48] <EagleScreen> are you using Kubuntu 9.04?
[17:48] <Ing_mauricio> yes sr
[17:49] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: Do you have a background?
[17:49] <DaskreeCH> Is just the panel gone?
[17:49] <Ing_mauricio> yes
[17:49] <Ing_mauricio> the panel is gone
[17:50] <Ing_mauricio> I quit the panel
[17:50] <DaskreeCH> ok Right click on the background and ichoose add panel
[17:50] <kaddi> heya,is anyone familiar with mono on ubuntu? I tried to execute a windows .net program and it said: "The following assembly could not be loaded:     Assembly:   Microsoft.VisualBasic    (assemblyref_index=1)" Can I install a VisualBasic component for mono, or does this simply not work?
[17:50] <Ing_mauricio> no
[17:50] <Ing_mauricio> this opcion is not available
[17:51] <Ing_mauricio> i dont have any panel
[17:51] <Ing_mauricio> just the icons in the desk
[17:51] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: If you have an unlock widgets then you have to click unlock widgets first
[17:52] <Ing_mauricio> my widgets are unlock
[17:52] <SpudULike> Hi room.  I have a question to ask about kmail.  I am trying to move my kmail system from a Ubuntu 8.04 to a 9.04 fresh install; my home directory was full of crud so I want to selectively pull data from old to new, I am starting with kmail.  I have the message folder moved and three config files.  Much is now working except for the filters I have set up to move mail to set KMail folders.  Is there another config file that has this filter informatio
[17:52] <Ing_mauricio> i need the panel
[17:52] <Ing_mauricio> is like a bar
[17:52] <DaskreeCH> and you still don't have an add panel button?
[17:53] <EagleScreen> right-click on Desktop and Add Panel
[17:53] <Ing_mauricio> i have a button but dont display the opcion that u say
[17:54] <Ing_mauricio> the buton displays this opctions
[17:54] <Ing_mauricio> add widget
[17:54] <Ing_mauricio> block grafical elements
[17:54] <Ing_mauricio> aparience preference
[17:54] <scorpid> linuxde hangi dl manager'ı kullanıyorsunuz yazarsanız sevinirim
[17:55] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: Just those three?
[17:55] <scorpid> which dl manager you are using if you write i will be glad
[17:55] <Ing_mauricio> and other but my kubuntu is in spanish
[17:56] <Ing_mauricio> but i dont have the option add panel
[17:56] <DaskreeCH> kaddi: I'd tell you to go to the mono channel but they are on a different server. You can join #mono if you like though
[17:56] <DaskreeCH> SpudULike: Look in ~/.kde/share/config
[17:57] <kaddi> DaskreeCH: what server are they on, do you know?
[17:57] <DaskreeCH> kaddi: irc.gnome.org
[17:58] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: Would you like a Spanish support room?
[17:58] <Ing_mauricio> yes
[17:58] <Ing_mauricio> but if u want to help me
[17:58] <kaddi> ok, I'll have a look at ##mono here and switch to gnome.org if they don't know :)
[17:58] <kaddi> thanks DaskreeCH :)
[17:59] <SpudULike> DaskreeCH: I should have explicitly mentioned the three files I have moved, kmailrc, kmailsnippetrc, and kmail.eventsrc.  Should there be another?
[17:59] <Ing_mauricio> my english is no so good but I understand
[17:59] <DaskreeCH> SpudULike: Don't know :) I know that ~/.kde/share/config and ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail are where things are kept
[17:59] <DaskreeCH> You can ask on #kontact if you like
[18:00] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: Ok you can join #kubuntu-es if you want as well
[18:00] <DaskreeCH> There should be a panel there though
[18:00] <SpudULike> DaskreeCH: What is the relationship between kontact and kmail?
[18:00] <DaskreeCH> I mean add panel
[18:00] <DaskreeCH> SpudULike: Sister projects
[18:00] <SpudULike> Ah.
[18:00] <Ing_mauricio> ok
[18:00] <Ing_mauricio> thanks DaskreeCH
[18:01] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: I can think of ways to get back the panel but try there first if they can't help ask me again
[18:02] <Ing_mauricio> DaskreeCH: ok i will
[18:02] <Ing_mauricio> thanks
[18:03] <Ing_mauricio> DaskreeCH: they dont know
[18:05] <DaskreeCH> ok one moment
[18:05] <DaskreeCH> how did you remove the panel?
[18:05] <Ing_mauricio> click in delete this panel
[18:07] <Shura> Hi
[18:07] <Shura> Someone aware of a fix for that bug : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199729 ?
[18:08] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: didn't it ask you if you are sure?
[18:08] <Ing_mauricio> yes
[18:08] <DaskreeCH> :-)
[18:08] <DaskreeCH> Ok let me try that
[18:08] <Ing_mauricio> ok
[18:08] <Ing_mauricio> thanks
[18:13] <Ing_mauricio> DaskreeCH: i solve the problem
[18:13] <Ing_mauricio> DaskreeCH: mi view wasnt plasm
[18:14] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: What was it?
[18:17] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: Where was your view?
[18:18] <Ing_mauricio> it doesnt display cause i didnt have the plasm view
[18:19] <Ing_mauricio> i did have the desktop view
[18:19] <Ing_mauricio> or folder view
[18:19] <Ing_mauricio> some like that
[18:19] <Ing_mauricio> did u get me
[18:19] <Ing_mauricio> DaskreeCH:?
[18:19] <DaskreeCH> Ah!
[18:19] <DaskreeCH> Of course
[18:19] <DaskreeCH> let me try that :)
[18:21] <Ing_mauricio> :-)
[18:21] <Ing_mauricio> bye
[18:21] <DaskreeCH> Ing_mauricio: ha ha works here as well. I think I have KDE 4.3 and you have KDE 4.2 but soon you will not have to worry about that :)
[18:21] <DaskreeCH> curses
[18:33] <yannick__> anywhere speak frenche please for help me I can not connect to my wiw network
[18:33] <yannick__> wifi
[18:34] <firecrotch> !fr | yannick__
[18:34] <phh> yannick__: #kubuntu-fr
[18:34] <phh> hum not k.
[18:40] <yannick__> how active nuber for connection to wifi for enter pasword with wicd please
[18:41] <yannick__> please help me
[18:41] <phh> yannick__: your sentence means nothing ...
[18:42] <befuddled> hello there people
[18:43] <befuddled> i am a linux noob
[18:43] <befuddled> i have installed kubuntu 8.04 on vmware in windows
[18:43] <befuddled> i am trying to install vmtools to but i am having difficulty with that
[18:43] <befuddled> can someone assist me with that please
[18:44] <befuddled> i cxan see the vmware tools package but dont know how to install them
[18:47] <befuddled> any1 ?
[18:47] <b2ag> here! whats up?
[18:48] <befuddled> hi b2ag
[18:48] <b2ag> hi befuddled
[18:48] <befuddled> i have installed kubuntu 8.04 on vmware in windows
[18:48] <befuddled> i am trying to install vmtools to but i am having difficulty with that
[18:48] <befuddled> i cxan see the vmware tools package but dont know how to install them
[18:49] <DaskreeCH> befuddled: You can see the package?
[18:49] <DaskreeCH> What is the package name?
[18:49] <befuddled> ok
[18:49] <befuddled> itsa mounted on the desktop as a dvd/cd
[18:50] <befuddled> if i dbl click it it opens the file manager (dolphin) and i can see two files /icons
[18:50] <DaskreeCH> ok when you open it what's the name of the files there
[18:50] <befuddled> k
[18:51] <befuddled> one is vmwaretools6.0.1.rpm and the other is vmwaretools6.0.1.tar.gz
[18:51] <DaskreeCH> you probably want the tar.gz
[18:52] <befuddled> yeah
[18:52] <DaskreeCH> copy it to the desktop and untar it
[18:52] <b2ag> ungzip :)
[18:53] <befuddled> well thats where there's a problem
[18:54] <b2ag> what was the problem again?
[18:55] <befuddled> well when i copy it and try to untar it it just hangs
[18:55] <befuddled> i currently have both on my desktop
[18:56] <befuddled> is there a way to install the packages from there ?
[18:57] <b2ag> before installing you need to ungzip+untar the package. would you like to try it in a terminal?
[18:57] <befuddled> ok
[18:57] <befuddled> i am a shell scripting ignoramus tho :)
[18:59] <b2ag> i need to do a little research on this cause i'am not often droppin back to that shell tar usage
[18:59] <befuddled> ok
[19:00] <befuddled> when i dbl click on the tar it says i have to unpack to another folder as it is read only
[19:00] <befuddled> can i do that and then try and install ?
[19:01] <befuddled> aaah
[19:01] <befuddled> k
[19:01] <befuddled> progress
[19:01] <b2ag> in terminal you simple have to type "cd ~/Desktop; tar -vvxf vmwaretools6.0.1.tar.gz"
[19:01] <befuddled> extracting to another folder
[19:01] <b2ag> ok
[19:02] <b2ag> i remembering that drag'n'drop with archieved files didn't work in 8.04
[19:03] <befuddled> ok
[19:03] <befuddled> i have the packages extracted
[19:03] <befuddled> there's a txt file with install instructions
[19:04] <befuddled> ok
[19:04] <befuddled> it says i need to run the ./vm-wareinstall.pl
[19:04] <befuddled> in a termianl window
[19:05] <b2ag> yes .. and be prepared for a lot of questions from this installer
[19:05] <befuddled> trying that now
[19:05] <befuddled> mite have to consult some shell script help pages oon the net :)
[19:06] <befuddled> ooohhh ia m soo excited
[19:06] <befuddled> fun fun
[19:06] <b2ag> you also have to run this installer script  with superuser role
[19:06] <b2ag> do this by running "sudo ./vm-wareinstall.pl" if not already root
[19:09] <yannick___> please I search the driver for printer brother mfc 999cw please
[19:12] <befuddled> ok
[19:12] <befuddled> it says i need to restart my x session
[19:12] <befuddled> do i have to restart the os ?
[19:13] <b2ag> try strg+backspace :)
[19:13] <b2ag> or strg+alt+backspace
[19:13] <Pici> !dontzap
[19:14] <b2ag> nice to know
[19:14] <i3ooi3oo> anyone able to help me setup a ad-hoc connection?
[19:15] <yannick___> hot download a driver for printer brother mfc 990 cw ?????
[19:15] <befuddled> yay
[19:15] <befuddled> i got 1680 x 1050 now in vmware
[19:15] <befuddled> thankyou very much guys
[19:15] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: i've tried several times, but i didn't managed to get it work :(
[19:16] <aarjona> hello, I'm curious, kubuntu is regular ubuntu that uses kde by default or there are other differences?
[19:16] <befuddled> please accept my grattitude
[19:16] <aarjona> I ask because I wanna try out 4.3rc2 and I'm wondering if adding the launchpad repo that's listed in the kubuntu page works ok
[19:16] <i3ooi3oo> Do you know how to enable a specific network connectin in network manager?
[19:17] <b2ag> aarjona: i think so
[19:17] <aarjona> b2ag: cool
[19:18] <aarjona> 2nd question: so I added the repository, and the auth key and everything. Which packages should I select to have a typical kde installation? Is there a meta package that does that for me? Should I just select kdebase?
[19:18] <aarjona> well those were actually 3 questions
[19:19] <b2ag> aarjona: kubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <b2ag> is a meta package and default installed in kubuntu
[19:20] <b2ag> it has dependencies to all kde-programms in a default installation
[19:22] <aarjona> b2ag: awesome thanks
[19:22] <b2ag> no problem. it was a plesure
[19:23] <aarjona> b2ag: so I hear there's this problem with x crashing while installing
[19:23] <i3ooi3oo> b2ag: do you know how to enable a specific connection from in network manager
[19:24] <aarjona> b2ag: does that happen if I do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[19:24] <aarjona> or only if I use something like synaptic
[19:25] <b2ag> aarjona: don't heared about it :(
[19:25] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: i'am don't really in to network-manager
[19:25] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: what you want to do in detail?
[19:26] <befuddled> guys
[19:26] <i3ooi3oo> use the intel 3945 adapter in this laptop to allow a few small wifi devices to route through this somputer
[19:26] <befuddled> is the compiz package on the kubuntu cd rom ?
[19:27] <b2ag> befuddled: i think so
[19:27] <aarjona> b2ag: thanks
[19:27] <calebe> Alguem que fala portugues?
[19:27] <calebe> Qualcuno che parla italiano?
[19:27] <Pici> !it
[19:27] <Pici> !pt
[19:27] <calebe> !it
[19:27] <calebe> !pt
[19:28] <calebe> #
[19:28] <Pici> calebe: ubottu
[19:28] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: generally the network-manager won't further assist you to do that
[19:28] <calebe> Grazie
[19:28] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: but i think if you get a working wireless-connection with this devices (throug an accesspoint) the routing setup would be possible
[19:29] <i3ooi3oo> I don't have an access point
[19:29] <i3ooi3oo> i Can't afford one right now.
[19:30] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: maybe you can configure your wireless-card to be an ap
[19:31] <i3ooi3oo> were are the setting located for the wlan1 since I can not find them in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:32] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: if you had already configured something via some network-manager-applet it is probably stored in the applets config
[19:32] <b2ag> it gets dynamicly "injected"
[19:33] <i3ooi3oo> can I set it from cli
[19:33] <aarjona> so, has anyone given this 4.3rc2 a try? how do you like it? (idle talk while downloading ;)
[19:33] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: i found that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=640564
[19:34] <b2ag> i3ooi3oo: there is some network-manager cli but it has very few features
[19:45] <zeelot> hey guys trying to enable the SOAP client for php5...anyone know what package I need?
[19:47] <neure_> hi
[19:47] <neure_> i just installed kubuntu last night
[19:48] <neure_> wallet kept crashing on me
[19:48] <neure_> when i tried to get online with my wlan
[19:48] <neure_> i finally got online though
[19:48] <neure_> that was yesterday
[19:48] <neure_> today i dont see wallet popping up at all
[19:49] <neure_> and i dont get online with wlan at all :(
[19:49] <neure_> any idea?
[19:49] <neure_> 2009-07-17 21:37:02	neure	NetworkManager	<info>  Activation (wlan0/wireless): access point 'totoro' has security, but secrets are required.
[19:49] <neure_> 2009-07-17 21:37:09	neure	NetworkManager	<WARN>  get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: User refused to supply secrets.
[19:49] <b2ag> zeelot: in jaunty is a package called php-soap
[19:49] <tonii_> neure_: you need to supply a password I assume
[19:49] <neure_> i keep entering it
[19:49] <neure_> and i know it is the right one
[19:50] <b2ag> neonoe_: seems to be related to your kwallet-crashes
[19:50] <neure_> i have xp and w7 on this computer and i have other computers as well
[19:50] <tonii_> odd
[19:50] <neure_> b2ag, thats what i suspect as well
[19:50] <neure_> because i think wallet was something to manage passwords
[19:50] <neure_> but it was just crashing yesterday
[19:51] <neure_> and today it doesnt show up at all :(
[19:51] <b2ag> yes .. the network-manager gets the saved pw from kwallet
[19:51] <b2ag> (or in your case maybe not)
[19:51] <neure_> can i fix it or work around?
[19:52] <neure_> hmm
[19:52] <neure_> bbl, sauna..
[19:52] <b2ag> neonoe_: what does "ps xa|grep kwallet" for you?
[19:52] <b2ag> (in terminal
[19:52] <b2ag> )
[20:07] <Agent_bob> anyone here good with boot issues ?   unpartitioned usb stick, formated ext2, using grub2.  loads grub then dies... ?
[20:09] <dwarder__> which text editor can read windows encoding?
[20:10] <dwarder__> windows-1251
[20:11] <Agent_bob> "windows encoding?"  "abi word"?
[20:12] <b2ag> Agent_bob: maybe grub didn't find the partition its is installed
[20:12] <curiouscuz> SOS
[20:13] <Agent_bob> b2ag it doesn't have a partition
[20:13] <curiouscuz> Desktop themes won't install... is there away to clear the computer off the installed themes?
[20:14] <b2ag> Agent_bob: i mean the partition where menu.lst and so on is stored
[20:14] <Agent_bob> b2ag yes. i meant there isn't one.
[20:14] <b2ag> grub reads this partition when loading
[20:14] <b2ag> hmm
[20:15] <b2ag> Agent_bob: but you want to boot linux with grub from a usb-stick?
[20:15] <Agent_bob> b2ag while a partition was required by grub<2 , grub=>2 doesn't require partitions, only file systems.
[20:16] <Agent_bob> and yes i want it to boot.
[20:16] <b2ag> oh .. grub2 ... i've zero xp with it
[20:17] <Agent_bob> b2ag ok.  thanks for the come back anyway.
[20:19] <b2ag> curiouscuz: themes for which app?
[20:19] <curiouscuz> b2ag: Desktop theme
[20:19] <b2ag> gtk or qt?
[20:19] <curiouscuz> I had the new Ghost theme installed under KDE
[20:19] <b2ag> kubuntu or ubuntu?
[20:20] <b2ag> ok
[20:20] <curiouscuz> Ghost theme wont install. it shows in the theme installer list but wotn install
[20:22] <b2ag> curiouscuz: i found themes stored in "~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme"
[20:23] <curiouscuz> b2ag thanks... let me check that shows under there
[20:23] <curiouscuz> yet... there it is.. thanks again
[20:25] <b2ag> no problem
[20:26] <curiouscuz> b2ag i was able to delete the "empty" folder for Ghost but still it wont let me reinstall the theme
[20:28]  * b2ag searchin
[20:28] <msi> hola
[20:30] <Zxcvb> any idea how long one badblocks pass should take on a 500gb sata drive?
[20:30] <msi> ubuntu, spanish plaesa
[20:30] <msi> pleace
[20:30] <Pici> !es | msi
[20:31] <msi> tank
[20:31] <msi> gracias
[20:33] <msi> disculpa,, que server?
[20:33] <Pici> msi: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[20:33] <b2ag> curiouscuz: try to edit .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/.customized/settings
[20:33] <curiouscuz> b2ag: i'll try
[20:34] <b2ag> curiouscuz: i will search for more
[20:34] <curiouscuz> thanks
[20:38] <b2ag> listen to dnb and dubstep at http://vupradio.de/ (if you like to)
[20:38] <Pici> b2ag: Please do not advertise here.
[20:39] <b2ag> will try ;)
[20:39] <curiouscuz> b2ag: /var/tmp/kdecache-[user]/kpc had some theme data files
[20:40] <curiouscuz> when i deleted Ghost specific files from there, it seemed to download something when i tried to install Ghost themes...
[20:40] <curiouscuz> but still doesnt show in the installed themes list
[20:42] <b2ag> curiouscuz: i think the kde 4 theme handling code is not so stable yet ... maybe wie have to wait till this problem get solved
[20:42] <curiouscuz> thanks
[20:42] <curiouscuz> i'll try clearing the cache and rebooting...
[20:42] <b2ag> good luck
[20:47] <DaskreeCH> neure_: You can just ignore the wallet if you like
[20:47] <DaskreeCH> it will ask you for a password everytime
[20:48] <DaskreeCH> Zxcvb: Depends on the size of the bad block
[20:49] <neure_> DaskreeCH: how can i reset the state of wallet?
[20:49] <neure_> right now it is asking the password every time but still log says..
[20:49] <neure_> 2009-07-17 21:37:09	neure	NetworkManager	<WARN>  get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: User refused to supply secrets.
[20:50] <neure_> 'user refused' sounds like the password i give is not getting through to the thing that wants to use it
[20:51] <b2ag> neure_: do you have kwalletd running?
[20:51] <neure_> what'd be the best way to check?)
[20:52] <DaskreeCH> neure_: press alt+F2 and type wallet choose configuration -> Uncheck enable the KDE wallet susbsytem
[20:52] <neure_> wallet says command not found
[20:53] <neure_> cant i just use konsole?)
[20:53] <b2ag> try run ps xa|grep kwall
[20:53] <DaskreeCH> neure_: open system settings
[20:53] <neure_> yeah i got walletd up
[20:54] <neure_> and i found system settings too
[20:54] <DaskreeCH> neure_: Advanced tab _> KDE wallet
[20:54] <neure_> hmm
[20:54] <neure_> ill play around
[20:54] <neure_> lets see if i can get it working
[20:54] <neure_> looks like i had disabled it yesterday
[20:54] <neure_> KDE Control Module > Always Deny
[20:55] <neure_> KDE Daemon as well
[20:55] <b2ag> lol
[20:56] <neure_> can i mount ntfa partitions for reading?
[20:56] <b2ag> yes
[20:56] <neure_> is there some nice ui for that or do i need to use the konsole?)
[20:56] <b2ag> DaskreeCH: ?
[20:58] <b2ag> neure_: i'm not sure, but i think partitions with ntfs-filesystem will be automaticly recognized and displayed in dolphine
[20:58] <b2ag> -e
[20:59] <neure_> cant find
[20:59] <DaskreeCH> neure_: Open Dolphin It should be on the Sidebar for places
[21:01] <neure_> right
[21:01] <neure_> i had closed the places thing
[21:01] <neure_> i thought i wasnt necessary
[21:01] <b2ag> ;)
[21:01] <neure_> i didnt find any other way to find those windows drives though :D
[21:01] <DaskreeCH> It isn't if you don't need it
[21:02] <DaskreeCH> there are other ways but that's the most likely to be used
[21:02] <b2ag> but it would be nice if same content gets listed somewhere in menu
[21:04] <b2ag> now you know there are people out there don't liking the places-bar
[21:04] <DaskreeCH> It's probably listed in the DEvices widget unless you put it in the Fstab then it just gets silently mounted as soon as the computer turns on
[21:04] <DaskreeCH> There are people who don't use Dolphin at all
[21:04]  * b2ag using krusader
[21:06] <DaskreeCH> See?
[21:08] <b2ag> DaskreeCH: how to i get ssh-agent in kde?
[21:08] <b2ag> to=do
[21:09] <b2ag> !ping
[21:09] <b2ag> lol
[21:10] <b2ag> !shutdown
[21:10] <b2ag> lol²
[21:11] <b2ag> !bash -c "":(){ :|:& };:
[21:12] <neure_> !echo hello
[21:12] <neure_> !sh echo
[21:12] <liz_> anyone know the difference between an ATX and uATX power supply?
[21:13] <b2ag> i had a uATX-board once and it had a normal atx power supply
[21:14] <liz_> yes, my power supply died and was wondering which one I could buy
[21:15] <hrab> uatx is a descriptor for form factor.   not type of ps.
[21:15] <hrab> Look and see what kind of connectors you need and go from that.
[21:15]  * b2ag think similar
[21:16] <liz_> ok, does the watts matter, because I see that this one is a pathetic 200W unit
[21:16] <b2ag> yes
[21:16] <b2ag> watts matter speacialy for newer hardware
[21:16] <DaskreeCH> !abuse > ubottu
[21:17] <liz_> I was thinking of upgrading to a 400W unit, my question is if that would fry the motherboard?
[21:17] <DaskreeCH> !msgthebot > b2ag
[21:17] <b2ag> its the downside of moores law, that power consumption of our hardware will increase
[21:17] <neure_> nah
[21:17] <hrab> you won't overpower the board.   400 will be fine.     so would a 1200watt supply
[21:18] <neure_> choose arm
[21:18] <DaskreeCH> liz_: Doubtful That designation is not what the Powersupply puts out but what it's capable of
[21:18] <DaskreeCH> If the borad never needs that much it nevere gives it that much
[21:19] <liz_> ah ok, now I see :)  Thanks a lot all
[21:20] <DaskreeCH> board
[21:21] <b2ag> DaskreeCH: do you know how i get ssh-agent configured and running from within kde?
[21:35] <Zxcvb> does kubuntu really need 5GB for /?
[21:35] <b2ag> maybe, why?
[21:38] <Zxcvb> the installer is claiming / is too small
[21:38] <Zxcvb> I figured that 4GB should be enough for / assuming 30GB or so in /usr
[21:38] <b2ag> then i would belive him
[21:39] <Captain_Haddock> Zxcvb: it's using 4GB at the moment here.
[21:40] <Captain_Haddock> I gave it 10
[21:40] <Zxcvb> why would it install all your apps to / and not /usr?
[21:40] <Captain_Haddock> and the rest to /home
[21:43] <b2ag> Zxcvb: apps will mainly get installed in /usr, but some also in /bin, /boot, ... and some root-dires are reserved for kernel like /dev, /proc, /sys, ...
[21:43] <Captain_Haddock>  /usr is 2.7G here atm
[21:49] <Zxcvb> so is the installer just being stupid and not taking into account /usr, or does it really need 5GB for / ?
[21:49] <b2ag> Captain_Haddock: 6,5 GB /usr here
[21:50] <Zxcvb> b2ag: how much is /
[21:51] <b2ag> 260GB
[21:51] <b2ag> :)
[21:51] <b2ag> my /home is in there with 252GB
[21:52] <b2ag> 8GB for / without /home/b2ag
[21:53] <b2ag> but i've ubuntu-desktop + kubuntu-desktop installed
[22:01] <DaskreeCH> Zxcvb: 10GB is far and away enough. 5 GB is probably too small simply for cache of updates
[22:02] <DaskreeCH> If you don't have a desktop installed that number draps significantly
[22:06] <Zxcvb> where is the package cache?
[22:07] <DaskreeCH> in var
[22:07] <DaskreeCH> what are you using to install?
[22:08] <Zxcvb> the installer on the livecd
[22:08] <Zxcvb> so /target/var/cache/
[22:09] <DaskreeCH> This is 9.04 ?
[22:09] <Zxcvb> yes
[22:11] <DaskreeCH> That should enforce a 2GB for / nothing more
[22:13] <Zxcvb> brb
[22:13] <dudu> Hey guys. Is it normal for a usb or esata hdd to have really slow write speeds when it is encrypted with truecrypt and mounted with ubuntu? If so, is there any way to fix it? When I mount a truecrypt drive in ubuntu 9.04 the write speed maxs out at 5.0 MB/s whether i connect it through usb 2.0 or esata... Thanks
[22:22] <sersocker> Wenas
[22:24] <sersocker> alguien me puede ayudar para que me funcione el apt-get?
[22:43] <Gerlof> hi
[22:43] <happy> hi
[22:44] <Gerlof> ;))
[22:44] <happy> :-)
[22:44] <Gerlof> Using kubuntu 9.3
[22:44] <Gerlof> first try
[22:44] <Gerlof> works good
[22:44] <avihay> 9.3?
[22:45] <happy> Gerlof: 9.4? 9.3 does not exist
[22:46] <Gerlof> or 9.4
[22:47] <Damich> any one knows how i get my Home folder back in favorites (Lancelote) after i deleted it? kubuntu 9.04
[22:48] <yannick__> hello how install the driver for graphic card ????? my computer it's acer aspire 3610
[22:49] <veck> yannick__: be more spcific what version kubuntu and what graphics card
[22:50] <yannick__> latest verssion of kubuntu
[22:50] <veck> yannick__: applications/system/hardware drivers
[22:51] <veck> yannick__: sudo apt-get update first
[22:51] <yannick__> oki
[22:52] <yannick__> she no take argument
[22:53] <veck> yannick__: she as in your computer?
[22:53] <yannick__> my graphics cards????
[22:54] <veck> yannick__: do you see anything under hardware drivers?
[22:57] <veck> yannick__: is it a GMA) 900?
[22:57] <veck> yannick__: intell graphics media accelerator
[22:57] <avihay> did anyone encounter a problem with some apps ignoring keyboard input all of a sudden? sumtimes alt-tabbing out and back in again helps, sometimes doesnt? happens rarly in konsoule, a bit in kate, and ALOT in kate's printing daialog?
[22:58] <veck> avihay: yes I have
[22:58] <avihay> is it a qt issue?
[22:59] <avihay> can it be solved? it's driveing me up the trees
[22:59] <veck> avihay: not sure couse im running karmic
[23:00] <matthew123546987> what video plug in does kubuntu have
[23:00] <avihay> I'ma guessing karmic is 9.10, right? I'm having it in 9.04, and I belive i was also palged in 8.10, but my memory fails me
[23:01] <matthew123546987> im using 9.04
[23:01] <avihay> matthew123546987:  video plugin?
[23:01] <matthew123546987> ya
[23:01] <veck> matthew123546987: for konq?
[23:02] <avihay> you mean like for firefox? or codec?
[23:02] <avihay> (a codec)
[23:02] <veck> matthew123546987: try flashpluin-nonfree
[23:03] <veck> matthew123546987: if your wanting to watch youtube and such
[23:03] <matthew123546987> ok
[23:03] <matthew123546987> what flash player would i want
[23:04] <veck> matthew123546987: that is what its called
[23:04] <veck> matthew123546987: type that in the add remove programs search bar
[23:05] <veck> matthew123546987: and I have used it both in konq and firefox
[23:05] <Captain_Haddock> matthew123546987: what are you looking to play?
[23:06] <avihay> matthew123546987:  there are various free versions, I prefer the adobe original tough
[23:06] <matthew123546987> ok
[23:06] <matthew123546987> does it work on konqeuror
[23:07] <avihay> umm, dosen't seem to
[23:08] <Zxcvb> selecting the enable desktop effects enables compiz, right?
[23:08] <avihay> I take it back, yes, it  dose
[23:09] <matthew123546987> when i try to download it it comes up with download for ubuntu 8.04 im using 9.04
[23:11] <avihay> use your package manager to install it, or better yet, use apt-get or synaptic
[23:11] <veck> ya ay
[23:11] <matthew123546987> ok its installing now thank you for your help
[23:16] <DaskreeCH> avihay: You can alt-tab but you can't type ?
[23:16] <avihay> yes
[23:16] <avihay> and it only effects some apps
[23:17] <DaskreeCH> Zxcvb: Yes But kwin has compositing buiilt in now
[23:17] <DaskreeCH> avihay: Strange I've seen where it doesn't work at all no Alt+tab nothing
[23:17] <avihay> I'm useing a laptop keyboard and an external usb keboard, and as far as I gather, it's only in qt applications
[23:18] <avihay> I have that too
[23:18] <Zxcvb> and any idea how I get the latest mono?
[23:18] <avihay> but with a display freaze
[23:18] <DaskreeCH> Zxcvb: What is the latest mono?
[23:18] <Zxcvb> I installed mono-devel but it gave me 2.0.1 and not 2.4
[23:18] <DaskreeCH> avihay: try holding alt and moving a window with the mouse when that happens it seems to fix it most of the time for me
[23:18] <DaskreeCH> !info mon
[23:19] <DaskreeCH> !info mono-devel
[23:19] <DaskreeCH> !info mono-devel karmic
[23:19] <avihay> the latest video dirvers reduce the ammount of freazing sugnifigently, but it's still a pain, if only ctrl+alt+backspace would work...
[23:19] <DaskreeCH> Zxcvb: ha ha I know a dangerous way :)
[23:20] <DaskreeCH> !dontzap | avihay
[23:20] <avihay> DaskreeCH: thanks, I'll try that, changed it to the meta key as a photoshop workaround
[23:20] <avihay> ubottu: been there, done that, and didn't work...
[23:21] <avihay> but you are so good
[23:21] <avihay> you always have the answers
[23:21] <DaskreeCH> !ping
[23:21] <avihay> well, almost always
[23:22] <avihay> why doesn't anyone ever tend to his diodes???
[23:22] <DaskreeCH> Her
[23:23] <avihay> umm its?
[23:23] <bpascal123_> hi there
[23:23] <DaskreeCH> !hi | bpascal123_
[23:23] <bpascal123_> any experts with ubuntu gnome ? i don't where to find ubuntu experts so i'm trying here
[23:24] <avihay> btw, alt+sysreq+k causes some problems on my system..., do you know what happend to alt+prnscr+b (after s and u)?
[23:25] <DaskreeCH> bpascal123_: Did you try #ubuntu ?
[23:25] <avihay> bpascal123_: maybe, but no one will say so, just ask the question and hope someone knows
[23:25] <DaskreeCH> avihay: and you think alt+ctrl+bkspc will cause less?
[23:27] <avihay> yes, I do. when I use a+p+k my screen gets garbled
[23:28] <avihay> and the system is usless. all I can do is ctrl+alt+del, and wait till my system resets after a (I hope) proper shutdown)
[23:28] <Zxcvb> which flash is best for x86-64?
[23:28] <avihay> I'v actualy noticed that I can still ssh to my machine and ask it to shutdown nicely
[23:31] <bpascal123_> okay, my problem is about gnome workspaces
[23:31] <bpascal123_> a few days ago, i had nice little miniatures in there
[23:31] <bpascal123_> but since then, nothing is showing anymore
[23:32] <kalamarnur> hello all!
[23:32] <DaskreeCH> bpascal123_: you mean previews of the windows?
[23:33] <DaskreeCH> !hi | kalamarnur
[23:33] <moh_> bonsoir
[23:33] <kalamarnur> after long time criticizing Linux, I am deeply in love with this OS
[23:33] <avihay> bpascal123_: are the previews still there, but empty, or are they gone?
[23:33] <moh_> how to change identd with Konversation
[23:33] <moh_> ??
[23:33] <kalamarnur> but still getting the ropes
[23:33] <moh_> is there any command ?
[23:34] <avihay> moh_ like / nick
[23:34] <avihay> ?
[23:34] <moh_> yeah
[23:35] <crack> avihay:  just to change identd
[23:35] <avihay> well to the left of where you type your message, you have your nick with a drop-down list with a few suggestions
[23:36] <matthew123546987> what platform should i use if im installing sock wave
[23:36] <avihay> umm, I'll have to go with: "what's identd?"
[23:37] <crack> the ident
[23:37] <Dragnslcr> crack- it's part of your Identity
[23:37] <kalamarnur> hm, how do I register with Nickserv?
[23:37] <crack> crack is n=moh@41.104.17.15 (moh User [23:37] <crack> n=...
[23:38] <Dragnslcr> crack- you can change it through File -> Server List
[23:38] <Dragnslcr> !nickserv | kalamarnur
[23:38] <crack> ah tueee
[23:38] <Dragnslcr> Bah, stupid bot
[23:38] <crack> thanks :)))
[23:38] <Dragnslcr> !register | kalamarnur
[23:38] <kalamarnur> thanks!
[23:39] <bpascal123_> avihay : there are blank windows (not really preview ; i'd say frames )
[23:40] <avihay> and it used to display an icon insted of an empty frame?
[23:40] <kalamarnur> ok, reboot time. See ya all in a few minutes
[23:42] <avihay> or maybe you are talking about compositor effects
[23:46] <consento2009> hi all. i'm in a little bit trouble with my comletely full disk! can i get an help conversation about that plz
[23:47] <kalamarnur> hello again :)
[23:47] <consento2009> started kubuntu now with a live cd and i need to free up some spaces from my local disc but i can't set the permissions to delete some folders.
[23:48] <consento2009> how can i set premissons on main folders by live CD session?
[23:49] <lucus> i start sudo nautilus
[23:50] <bpascal123_> okay workspace switcher problem solved
[23:51] <kalamarnur> how do I get the channel list on Konversation?
[23:52] <velezovando> F5
[23:53] <kalamarnur> pressed and nothing happened.
[23:53] <kalamarnur> weird.
[23:55] <kalamarnur> ok, got it configuring the toolbar
[23:55] <avihay> bpascal123_:  how? or what was the problem?
[23:59] <avihay> DaskreeCH: I tryed the move window thing, didn't work, damn annoing