[00:04] <exarkun> What's this mean?  bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exarkun/pyopenssl/trunk/changes: Unable to handle http code 500: Internal Server Error
[00:04] <mwhudson> it probably means you should try again :/
[00:04] <mwhudson> exarkun: what were you doing, pulling?
[00:05] <exarkun> 'bzr checkout', specifically
[00:05]  * exarkun tries again
[00:06] <mwhudson> bzr looks at the url you give it rather than that + .bzr/format for some operations
[00:06] <mwhudson> to see if there's a bundle there
[00:07] <exarkun> Something's taking a really long time this time.  Maybe just the host, dunno.
[00:07] <exarkun> http://buildbot.twistedmatrix.com/builders/winxp32-py2.3-pyopenssl/builds/45/steps/bzr/logs/stdio
[00:08] <exarkun> Looks like it succeeded.
[00:09] <mwhudson> oh good
[00:09] <exarkun> (now if only I knew why Python 2.3 ctypes didn't have a "util" module)
[03:27] <poolie> is there an equivalent of launchpad.net/bugs/%d for merge proposals?
[03:30] <mwhudson> doubt it
[03:50] <jml> poolie, is this in reaction to bug 400215?
[03:52] <poolie> yeah
[03:52] <poolie> i was going to comment there
[03:52] <poolie> i'll just post
[04:09] <woohoo> hello, how do i delete a empty PPA?
[04:12] <micahg> you can post a request on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad AFAIK
[04:16] <woohoo> k
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> Does lp have project "buckets"?
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> For example, Solenoid theme for MoinMoin.
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> I'd like to register the project under a moinmoin/themes bucket
[04:34] <RenatoSilva> otherwise I need to create a bad name such as moin-solenoid-theme
[04:39] <jml> RenatoSilva, I don't think lp has buckets like that
[04:53] <RenatoSilva> jml: I'll file a bug ok? or blueprint maybe?
[04:54] <lifeless> a blueprint really needs a lot of dedicated thought
[04:54] <jml> RenatoSilva, a bug is probably better.
[04:54] <lifeless> if you just want to capture the concept, a bug is more appropriate IMO
[04:54] <RenatoSilva> ok
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> my impression is that a blueprint is when you want to organize _how_ implement a feature
[04:55] <RenatoSilva> so that a bug is better
[05:16] <poolie> RenatoSilva: it does have project groups
[05:19] <RenatoSilva> bug 400507
[05:35] <jml> poolie, so you really think the merge proposal number is useful?
[05:36] <poolie> well
[05:36] <poolie> i think the interaction you just saw Renato do is useful
[05:36] <poolie> i'd like to say, 'hey jml can you read mp 1234'
[05:37] <jml> poolie, what's wrong with pointing people at a branch?
[05:37] <poolie> i replied to bug 400125 too
[05:37] <poolie> or not
[05:37] <jml> see what I mean!
[05:37] <poolie> bug 400215
[05:37] <poolie> heh
[05:38] <jml> why do you want more meaningless numbers?
[05:38] <poolie> hey, i didn't put the numbers there :)
[05:39] <jml> you kind of did
[05:39] <jml> it's not _my_ fault that you can merge a bazaar branch into a bunch of different branches :)
[05:39] <poolie> actually i might have asked for being able to do that
[05:39] <poolie> for being able to have multiple proposals for one branch
[05:40] <jml> well, also, the underlying vcs can do that, so there's no point in Launchpad masking the ability.
[05:40] <poolie> i also tend to think now that having the owner and the project in the branch name doesn't make sense
[05:40] <poolie> i guess i'd say bug 346318 is not really fixed
[05:40] <poolie> if a title's not unique in the first 20 characters, it's not unique
[05:40] <poolie> like in BASIC :)
[05:40] <jml> ha
[05:41] <jml> poolie, are you suggesting that we change the way branches are named on Launchpad?
[05:41] <poolie> or actually in C, in at least some versions of the spec
[05:41] <thumper> poolie: it is fixed!
[05:42] <poolie> thumper, it's not, because they're all named "Proposal to mer..."
[05:42] <poolie> i can send you a screenshot
[05:42] <poolie> :)
[05:42] <thumper> nah
[05:42] <thumper> I'll just ignore it
[05:42]  * thumper has a bout of honesty
[05:46] <mwhudson> safari (?) when you have multiple tabs open shows the text that differs in the titles of the page
[06:09] <poolie> i agree it's far down the list
[06:09] <poolie> responding to arguable bugs is a time sync
[06:09] <poolie> sink*
[06:11] <lifeless> poolie: I think that if the owner and project aren't there, it will force people to put them in themselves; see for instance 'bzr.dev' rather than 'dev'. :)
[06:12] <poolie> i actually was referring to mp numbers
[06:13] <poolie> or the thread about their urls
[06:13] <poolie> i don't want to think about branch naming now
[06:13] <lifeless> poolie: oh, I misread your comment at 14:39 then :P
[06:13] <poolie> but i would say, for that branch it seems like the most useful conceptual url is something like /bzr/trunk
[06:13] <lifeless> poolie: I'd be happy with a very shallow namespace for mp's
[06:14] <lifeless> like /merge/XXXXX
[06:14] <lifeless> with lp offering a /merge/XXXXX/.bzr branch reference
[06:14] <lifeless> that would be nice ;)
[06:14] <poolie> lifeless: i haven't thoroughly thought this through but i think that official project branches
[06:15] <poolie> should probably have an implicit team
[06:15] <poolie> rather than one in the url
[06:15] <poolie> as they kind of do, well, as some of them do, in lp: urls
[06:17] <poolie> also, in this channel, i agree with you that the sparklines as they currently exist seem of limited use...
[06:21] <jml> poolie, we are not changing the way branches are named in any fundamental way.
[06:21] <jml> poolie, you might recall participating in previous discussion along these lines.
[06:22] <poolie> yes, of course i do
[06:23] <poolie> ah, i thought, but didn't press enter on "but we shouldn't change this now"
[06:24] <jml> poolie, ahh, ok. :)
[06:24] <poolie> if we change our model of branches and repos for 3.0 we may need to rethink this though
[06:24] <poolie> well
[06:24] <jml> agreed.
[06:24] <poolie> at any rate the impact on launchpad needs to be considered
[06:43] <happyaron> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/77251
[06:46] <happyaron> could someone have a look at this question
[07:17] <happyaron> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/77251
[07:44] <stain> is it possible to change the order of the files on the download pages of a project? It turns out I uploaded the files in order, but now they show in reverse order
[07:45] <stain> never mind, I just deleted the 'wrong ones' and uploaded again carefully
[07:57] <stain> I can't seem to edit an existing VCS import
[08:04] <mwhudson> stain: that's right
[08:05] <mwhudson> stain: it's a more complicated process than it should be
[08:05] <stain> is it because it's owned by this virtual VCS user?
[08:05] <mwhudson> stain: ask a question in answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code
[08:05] <mwhudson> stain: it's because it involves mucking about in a shell
[08:05] <stain> I'm not too bothered, just thought I should clean up some things that have failed importing for a year and a half
[08:06] <stain> I don't know of anyone using the bzr one, so it would just be there to make the project more complete on Launchpad
[08:06] <stain> (we're so oldfashioned using SVN..)
[08:48] <iammyr> Hi everyone
[08:48] <iammyr> I'd like to know if launchpad uses some automatic algortithm to link different bugs or these links are done only manually by users through the 'mark as duplicate' button
[08:49] <iammyr> does it maybe compare key-words included in bug summaries or descriptions?
[08:50] <iammyr> I'd like to know it because I'm going to publish bug data as linked data
[08:50] <lifeless> there is a demon that the ubuntu bug team run that looks at ubuntu bugs
[08:50] <lifeless> but there isn't a built-in-facility for launchpad as such
[08:51] <iammyr> so when I read this 'there’s a “Bugs fixed elsewhere” report that shows which of your bugs are marked fixed in other communities. ' ont the guided tour
[08:52] <iammyr> is it referring only to the links created manually by users?
[08:53] <iammyr> are there no automatic ways to determine that a bug has been already fixed elsewhere
[10:55] <kangarooo> hello. i have registered all security types. pgp and ssh key. now im reinstalling system. what folders i need to backup/secure?
[10:57] <maxb> Your question is a bit too vague to answer - please clarify
[10:59] <kangarooo> i have registered those keys with launchpad. what i need to do when im reinstalling ubuntu? i need to copy some folder right? witch ones?
[11:01] <mwhudson> oh
[11:01] <mwhudson> ~/.ssh and ~/.gpg
[11:01] <mwhudson> and be careful with them :)
[11:02] <kangarooo> why? what can happen? i just copy and on clean system paste.
[11:03] <kangarooo> only forgeting them? well i jet dont know why i cant just make  new ones. why i actually need them.
[11:03] <mwhudson> don't let someone else get them, is what i meant
[11:04] <mwhudson> for the ssh key, you certainly can just make and upload new ones
[11:05] <mwhudson> for gpg, it gets confusing if you have lots of keys floating around with the same email address
[11:05] <kangarooo> ah. ok. but how can they be used? added to email? but that who will get wont get my email password. thats in my brain. so even with key my identity cant be used..
[11:05] <mwhudson> (not that i can talk, there's three keys for michael.hudson@canonical.com on the key servers)
[11:05] <maxb> ~/.gnupg rather than ~/.gpg
[11:06] <kangarooo> i actually wont anymore use firefox addon for gpg. it no use
[11:06] <mwhudson> kangarooo: it's generally assumed that that someone who has your gpg key _is_ you, for example when it comes to uploading software to a ppa
[11:09] <kangarooo> and i just looked in home and there is no .gpg folder. there is .ssh and .gnupg
[11:10] <mwhudson> yes, i meant .gnupg sorry
[11:10] <kangarooo> yeah ok. and in where is stored gpg keys witch i have fetched with gpg addon in firefox?
[11:11] <mwhudson> they're in ~/.gnupg as well i think
[11:23] <kangarooo> mwhudson: and is some programm where i can manage those fetched keys? i would like to delete all fetched so no useles calculations happening.
[11:26] <happyaron> is anyone who can pay some attention on these two issue? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/77266 https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/77251
[11:27] <henninge> happyaron: patience! 4 hour and 1 hour waiting is not very long ...
[11:27] <happyaron> oh
[12:57] <Senghoo> My id have a bug  I have joined the Ubuntu Simplified Chinese Translators, however I can not edit or upload anything  how can help me ?
[13:27] <happyaron> danilos: ping
[13:28] <danilos> happyaron: hi
[13:28] <happyaron> danilos: I am the one requested for import, :)
[13:28] <danilos> happyaron: I guessed, so, what's up? :)
[13:29] <Senghoo> My launchpad id have a bug  I have joined the Ubuntu Simplified Chinese Translators, however I can not edit or upload anything  how can help me ?
[13:29] <danilos> happyaron: you still want to go on with the process?
[13:29] <danilos> Senghoo: are you an approved member of the team?
[13:29] <Senghoo> danilos:yes
[13:30] <happyaron> danilos: zh_CN team leader Funda Wang don't like launchpad anyway, you can see even his account isn't active on launchpad
[13:31] <danilos> happyaron: unfortunately, we can't let people set up GNOME translations in Launchpad without upstreams approving it; if you can get him to at least approve you starting a team, that would be enough
[13:32] <danilos> Senghoo: and where are you seeing problems?
[13:32] <happyaron> danilos: ok, I'd like to try that, for maintain the pot files, that's ok ,you can see I am maintaining the enlightenment, too
[13:32] <Senghoo> danilos:  I can't edit or update anything on the team
[13:33] <happyaron> danilos: how can you confirm his approval?
[13:33] <danilos> happyaron: sure, if you can do that, it'd be fine
[13:33] <danilos> happyaron: ideally, he'd activate his account and confirm it in the question himself, otherwise, we'd have to privately email him to see if he agrees; do you want me to do that?
[13:34] <danilos> Senghoo: of course you can't, you are just a member of the team
[13:34] <vds> who is the help contact today? :)
[13:34] <happyaron> danilos: I prefer to send him a mail first
[13:34] <happyaron> danilos: myself
[13:35] <danilos> vds: abentley, he will be showing up in a few hours
[13:35] <vds> thanks danilos
[13:36] <danilos> happyaron: sure, but for confirmation, we'd have to email him after that, so be sure to re-open the question once it's done and somebody from the team will take care of it (I will be away for few weeks, so wouldn't be able to help with that)
[13:36] <james_w> by my reading there is no way to create merge proposals in the API yet, is that correct?
[13:36] <happyaron> danilos: okay, thanks
[13:37] <happyaron> danilos: I prefer you deactive the project now and if he approved, we can start one
[13:37] <Senghoo> danilos: how can i edit or upload on the team ?
[13:39] <Senghoo> danilos: i means i can't translate anything on the team
[13:39] <danilos> happyaron: sure, done, you might get a weird email now that project is disabled, but just don't worry about it :)
[13:40] <danilos> Senghoo: can you tell me exactly where are you trying to upload stuff? are you logged in? also, team for Simplified Chinese is not marked as translating Ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-translators and discuss there
[13:40] <happyaron> danilos: thanks, :)
[13:41] <Senghoo> danilos: thanks
[14:14] <happyaron> danilos: I can still access the project on https://launchpad.net/doc-zh
[14:18] <happyaron> danilos: but it should be deactived,
[14:19] <Dabian> I joined the danish translation team, but when I want to translate something, I get "This translation is managed by 'De danske oversættere af Ubuntu". (This means, "The danish translators of Ubuntu").  When I click this group, I don't get a chance to try and join this group, and if I try to open "Translation guidelines", I get: "Not allowed here               Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.   "
[14:19] <Dabian> "You are logged in as Dabian."
[14:20] <dpm> Dabian: what's your Launchpad ID and which page are you trying to access?
[14:20] <Dabian> This is the page https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators/da/+edit
[14:21] <Dabian> How do I know what my ID is?  I just log in as Dabian.
[14:23] <dpm> Dabian: on that Launchpad page, at the top right corner of the browser and next to the "Log Out" button -> if you click on your name there, what's the URL?
[14:24] <Dabian> dpm: I'll send you that as privmsg, if its ok?
[14:25] <dpm> Dabian: sure, but it's a public URL anyway
[14:25] <dpm> Dabian: and this page -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators/da/+edit can only be changed by the administrator of the Danish translation team. Unless you are an admin, you shouldn't be able to access it
[14:25] <Dabian> dpm: Then it is as suspected.  I am doing something wrong. :)
[14:27] <dpm> Dabian: I'm sorry to keep moving you around, but as there seems to be nothing wrong with Launchpad, would you mind comint to the #ubuntu-translators channel and we take it from  there?
[14:27] <Dabian> dpm: No problem. :)
[14:27] <dpm> ok, Ill see you there :)
[14:34] <abentley> davidstrauss: So Jelmer confirms that submodules won't be supported in bzr-git until Nested Trees are implemented in Bazaar.
[14:40] <davidstrauss> abentley: thanks
[14:41] <abentley> davidstrauss: Not happy news of course, but perhaps we can improve the error.
[14:42] <davidstrauss> abentley: it should probably not backtract
[14:42] <davidstrauss> backtrace*
[14:42] <abentley> davidstrauss: Right.
[14:56] <Senghoo> dpm: it's still dosn't work .freeflying let me ask at here
[15:01] <Senghoo> dpm: it's still dosn't work .freeflying let me ask at here
[15:02] <dpm> Senghoo: did you try to log out and log back into Launchpad as I asked you?
[15:02] <Senghoo> Yes
[15:04] <Senghoo> Even i have reboot my system and reinstall firefox
[15:04] <Senghoo> dpm:  Even i have reboot my system and reinstall firefox but it still dos't work
[15:07] <vds> hi abentley, I'm using edge, when I go to a page to review a branch I don't see the usual table that shows my name for adding a review, it works if I go to the regular lp page
[15:08] <abentley> vds: You can now add reviews through the "Add a review or comment" button instead.  Putting peoples' names in the table when they hadn't been requested to review was confusing for some people.
[15:08] <abentley> vds: You can also review through any reply link.
[15:09] <vds> abentley: ok, thank you very much!
[15:10] <abentley> vds: No problem.
[15:11] <happyaron> vds: could you have a glance at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/77266
[15:12] <vds> happyaron: thanks
[15:12] <happyaron> vds: I should say thanks to you, :)
[15:15] <vds> abentley: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/77266 I guess it's more a question for you :)
[15:15] <happyaron> vds: but how to change that?
[15:15] <happyaron> vds: should I update the package in ppa?
[15:16] <vds> happyaron: sorry I don't know
[15:16] <happyaron> vds: thank you all the same, :)
[15:17] <vds> happyaron: sorry I cannot be of much help with that
[15:17] <happyaron> vds: I'd wait for some else to answer the question,
[15:20] <abentley> happyaron: I believe resolving this requires intervention by our IS people (Losas), but none is around at the moment.
[15:20] <happyaron> abentley: IS people? what's that?
[15:20] <abentley> happyaron: Sysadmins
[15:20] <happyaron> oh
[15:57] <james_w> abentley: hi. Am I right that I can't propose a merge from the API yet?
[15:57] <abentley> james_w: I'm not sure.
[15:58] <abentley> james_w: Yes, it looks like that hasn't been exposed.
[15:58] <james_w> I need to automate it, and mail would be painful for that
[15:58] <james_w> I can't see a bug, do you know if it is planned?
[15:59] <abentley> james_w: AFAIK, the plan is to expose basically everything.
[16:00] <james_w> sorry, should have said "planned to be done in the next couple of cycles?"
[16:01] <james_w> I'm filing a bug now, and I'll have to come up with a manual method, but automation is always better :-)
[16:01] <abentley> I don't think there are specific plans for that, but we'll certainly take your request seriously, and I doubt it's hard.
[16:02] <james_w> bug filed, thanks for your time
[16:02] <Senghoo> dpm: i get the Solution of the problem
[16:31] <AnAnt> Hello, when is it expected that we can have Debian PPAs ?
[16:56] <bdmurray> I am correct in thinking that package subscriptions are not exported in the api?
[17:12] <abentley> AnAnt: I'm sorry, but there are no immediate plans to support Debian.
[17:24] <abentley> bdmurray: Aarchive subscription are exported.  I don't see anything about package subscriptions.
[17:26] <bdmurray> abentley: okay, I've reported it as a bug
[17:30] <abentley> bdmurray: I mean, I can't find any mention of package subscriptions in our source code at all.
[17:30] <bdmurray> abentley: oh, I think its really package bug subscriptions not package
[17:32] <bdmurray> abentley: structuralsubscription maybe?
[17:34] <abentley> bdmurray: maybe.  Lemme see about bug subscriptions first.
[17:36] <abentley> bdmurray: Bug subscriptions are exported.
[17:38] <bdmurray> abentley: right but not package bug subscriptions i.e. people who are subscribed to all of a package's bug reports
[17:38] <intellectronica> abentley, bdmurray: they are structural subscriptions, and they're not yet exported
[17:39] <abentley> intellectronica: Thanks.
[17:39] <bdmurray> intellectronica: is that a malone bug then?
[17:39] <intellectronica> bdmurray: yes, that's a malone bug. i don't think there's one recorded already, so feel free to file one
[17:40] <bdmurray> intellectronica: okay, its bug 400763
[17:40] <intellectronica> bdmurray: thanks
[18:06] <sladen> could somebody assist me with repointing bug #400532 . Malone is not letting me repoint it at plain "Ubuntu"  (somebody has filed it against the next nearest which is "Ubuntu One"...)
[18:07] <sladen> it used to be easy to do this with URL editing, but that got closed
[18:12] <abentley> sladen: I don't think you can reassign it to a package.  You should mark it invalid in ubuntuone and add "also afffects" ubuntu.
[18:23] <abentley> sladen: Also, this doesn't look like a bug report to me, just a misconfigured machine.
[18:47] <evanrmurphy> I sometimes get email notices for Launchpad bug reports, etc. Can I reply to those notices via email to add my response to the comment thread, or is it necessary to navigate to the bug report's page and submit the comment there? Thank you.
[18:51] <intellectronica> evanrmurphy: yes, your replies will be added as comments to the bug
[18:51] <micahg> Is there a feature request to create a bug from an e-mail or does it already exist?
[18:51] <intellectronica> evanrmurphy: you can also change other aspects of the bug using email. see https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[18:52] <intellectronica> micahg: you can already do that. see the link above
[18:53] <evanrmurphy> intellectronica: That's really helpful, thank you!
[18:54] <micahg> thanks intellectronica
[20:25] <ScottK> When I get OOPS-1294B2245 trying to go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace the failure page offers to stop redirecting to edge for two hours.  The prolem is, I'm not on edge.
[20:28] <ScottK> Worked finally (after many, many retries)
[23:21] <wgrant> Is there not going to be a Launchpad 2.2.8?
[23:22] <bpascal123_> hi there?
[23:22] <bpascal123_> any ubuntu experts here?
[23:23] <wgrant> bpascal123_: If you want Ubuntu support, you probably want #ubuntu.
[23:30] <savvas0> Hi, I was wondering about the new integration of "untrusted archives" (the ppas) - I found one, but it's not shown in the +source page: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfshuffler - https://edge.launchpad.net/~logari81/+archive/ppa - Does the ppa integration check if the version is less than the reported one?
[23:32]  * wgrant kicks the amd64 virtual buildds.
[23:33] <wgrant> Why are they always the ones to get the biggest cut?
[23:35] <mtaylor> wgrant: because they hate me
[23:35] <kiko> mtaylor, nobody hates you ;-)
[23:37] <lifeless> mtaylor: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mordred/libcpuinfo/add-bindings/ still had a warning on it
[23:37] <mtaylor> kiko: yay!
[23:37] <mtaylor> lifeless: um... I think that's a bug in launchpad ?
[23:38] <mtaylor> lifeless: didn't we fix this already once?
[23:38] <lifeless> mtaylor: could you uncommit lp:/~mordred/libcpuinfo/add-bindings; push lp:/~mordred/libcpuinfo/add-bindings
[23:38] <lifeless> with a 4-5 minute gap in the middle
[23:39] <mtaylor> sure
[23:39] <mtaylor> uncommit done
[23:39] <mtaylor> will push in a bit
[23:39] <lifeless> barry: have you seen lamson ?
[23:39] <barry> lifeless: lamson?
[23:40] <barry> (that would be a "no" :)
[23:40] <lifeless> http://lamsonproject.org/
[23:49] <lifeless> barry: http://lamsonproject.org/
[23:50] <mtaylor> lifeless: that makes me happy
[23:50] <lifeless> mtaylor: can you run 'bzr info -v lp:/~mordred/libcpuinfo/add-bindings'
[23:50] <lifeless> mtaylor: what makes you happy?
[23:50] <mtaylor> lifeless: lamson
[23:50] <mtaylor> lifeless: , the existence of
[23:51] <lifeless> mtaylor: ah yes. twisted has smtp, but lamson seems to be aiming for app, not framework
[23:51] <mtaylor> lifeless: ok. - what info would you like to see from bzr info?
[23:51] <lifeless> repo format
[23:51] <lifeless> oh, you may need to do
[23:51] <lifeless> sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/....
[23:51] <mtaylor> Repository branch (format: unnamed)   2KB     1KB/s |
[23:51] <mtaylor> mmm
[23:51] <lifeless> (the -v makes there be a dedicated line for the repo)
[23:52] <barry> lifeless: omg bbq kau
[23:52] <lifeless> kau?
[23:52] <barry> kittens and unicorns
[23:52] <lifeless> hehehe
[23:53] <mtaylor> lifeless: Repository branch (format: 2a)
[23:53] <lifeless> ok
[23:53] <mtaylor> lifeless: shall I try pushing again?
[23:53] <barry> lifeless: you just blew my weekend.  and i had a full schedule of mario kart wii all lined up
[23:53] <lifeless> mtaylor: yes
[23:53] <mtaylor> lifeless: should I push via sftp: as well?
[23:53] <lifeless> mtaylor: give it a shot, shouldn't be needed, but - wtf
[23:54] <barry> lifeless: i forwarded you a testimonial
[23:54] <mtaylor> lifeless: why does bzr url encode the ~ in displayed urls?
[23:54] <lifeless> mtaylor: theres something very odd going on; if this doesn't ix it, we'll want to open a question on answers.l.n/launchpad/code
[23:54] <lifeless> mtaylor: iz gtk ug
[23:54] <mtaylor> k
[23:54] <lifeless> bah my typing went awol
[23:54] <lifeless> its a bug
[23:55] <lifeless> I thought we fixed it, but clearly not
[23:55] <mtaylor> good. as long as it's not some design choice
[23:55] <lifeless> its over aggressive escaping
[23:55] <mtaylor> lifeless: it's fixed in the line "stacked on"
[23:55] <lifeless> there is a standard, and where its not retarded we should be following it
[23:55] <mtaylor> lifeless: but not in the sftp location lines
[23:55] <lifeless> hmm, please file a bug
[23:55] <lifeless> barry: \o/
[23:56] <lifeless> barry: I aim to please :)
[23:56] <mtaylor> lifeless: while I'm bugging you about meaningless stuff... any chance there's a way to get bzr to re-collapse urls into lp: shortcuts when it displays them to me?
[23:56] <mtaylor> or rather - to just store them that way?
[23:56] <lifeless> mtaylor: I think we should store them that way
[23:58] <lifeless> but we need tuits; and geetting 2.0 finished is way up there comparatively ;)
[23:58] <mtaylor> fair enough
[23:58] <mtaylor> lifeless: again - as long as someone already agrees with me, I'm fine!
[23:58] <lifeless> barry: hahahahah. Sadly, using 'system X sucks' isn't a great way to tell people bzr is good :(
[23:59] <barry> lifeless: yeah.  but it does make you feel a little vindicated
[23:59] <barry> lifeless: we'll see what happens when the spigot is turned on
[23:59] <lifeless> barry: it makes me feel disappointed
[23:59] <dash> hey! how do I delete a branch I created
[23:59] <barry> lifeless: indeed, indeed
[23:59] <dash> the faq has an entry for this