[00:01] <asac_> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220130/
[00:01] <asac_> with all internal hidden
[00:02] <asac> hmm. there are still a few left. _ZN2v88internal19kLongLogEventsNamesE
[00:06] <fta> what is that?
[00:07] <asac> nm -D libv8.so
[00:07] <asac> with all hidden
[00:07] <asac> check your libv8.so (if you have it)
[00:07] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 88706 2009-07-16 17:55 da.pak
[00:07] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 83692 2009-07-16 17:55 en-US.pak
[00:07] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74194 2009-07-16 17:55 he.pak
[00:07] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 53338 2009-07-16 17:55 zh-TW.pak
[00:07] <asac> how many languages are there?
[00:08] <fta> so far only 4 in my build, but there are ~50 in the source tree
[00:10] <pace_t_zulu> later y'all
[00:10] <asac> 50*63.333=?
[00:11] <asac> 3166
[00:11] <asac> i gues thats ok to put in one langpack
[00:11] <asac> chromium-browser-non-en
[00:11] <asac> chromium-browser-non-us ;)
[00:11] <fta> -l10n ?
[00:12] <fta> or -langpacks
[00:13] <asac> fta: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-v8/chromium-v8.head/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/hidden.patch
[00:13] <asac> can you put that into your chromium build and see if things go mad?
[00:14] <asac> probably need to change strip level
[00:14] <asac> i tried it and it applies against latest trunk too
[00:14] <asac> and to 1.2 branch
[00:15] <fta> hm, i will diverge at each v8 sync :S
[00:15] <asac> fta: no its just for testing
[00:15] <asac> its not ready for that
[00:15] <asac> if it works i can make it so upstreawm will take it
[00:15] <asac> just an experiment if it blows up ;)
[00:24] <fta> i'm not fully ready for a shared build, i have a few things to fix
[00:24] <asac> fta: shared build? oh you have static v8?
[00:24] <fta> yes, told you earlier
[00:24] <asac> oh ok
[00:24] <fta> WANT_SHARED_LIBS ?= 0
[00:25] <asac> cant you selectively just enable v8?
[00:25] <fta> d'oh! difficult
[00:26] <asac> fta: do you know how i can build v8 with tests?
[00:27] <fta> make tests :)
[00:27] <fta> lol, that's skia
[00:27] <fta> hmm, let me see
[00:29] <fta> add cctests to the target
[00:30] <fta> asac, ^^ + http://code.google.com/p/v8/wiki/Testing
[00:31] <asac> ok cool
[00:31] <asac> now i found how to actually do the soname=on ;)
[00:31] <asac> i am bloody scons n00b for sure ;)
[00:32] <asac> if i just run scons it dumps the options. but it doesnt dump available targets
[00:32] <asac> err scons --help
[00:42] <asac> debian/tmp/usr/lib/libv8.so.1.so
[00:42] <asac> ;)
[00:49] <fta> does it work?
[01:03] <asac> the tests?
[01:03] <asac> no they fail to compile
[01:03] <asac> first fixes were similar
[01:03] <asac> but now i have a harder problem
[01:03] <asac> with some weird templating
[01:04] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/220159/
[01:05] <asac> seems easy, but i don tsee whats wrong in this case ;)
[01:06] <asac> i push hidden visibility throughout whole conversation.cc ;)
[01:06] <asac> so not sure how it can be more visible ,)
[01:08] <fta> no idea
[01:14] <asac> ok seems i got it
[01:15] <asac> at least that file ;)
[01:19] <asac> [00:54|% 100|+ 427|- 399]: Done
[01:19] <asac> fta: ?
[01:19] <asac> means half didnt work?
[01:19] <asac> or no test worked?
[01:19] <asac> ;)
[01:20] <asac> CXXFLAGS=-fno-strict-aliasing ./tools/test.py -S soname=on -S library=shared cctest/test-heap/SymbolTable
[01:20] <asac> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
[01:21] <asac> scons: done reading SConscript files.
[01:21] <asac> scons: Building targets ...
[01:21] <asac> scons: `cctests' is up to date.
[01:21] <asac> scons: done building targets.
[01:21] <asac> [00:00|% 100|+   1|-   0]: Done
[01:22] <asac> test-api is better: [00:24|% 100|+ 184|-   0]: Done
[01:22]  * asac runs all CC tests
[01:23] <asac> five crashes
[01:23] <asac> [00:52|% 100|+ 421|-   5]: Done > cctest
[01:24] <asac> is that normal?
[01:24] <asac> do you have zero crashes in chromium?
[01:31] <fta> i don't run the v8 testsuite directly, so i'm not sure
[01:42] <asac> yeah
[01:42] <asac> i think the few crashes are ok
[01:43] <asac> its the mjsunit testsuite that has 100% errors
[01:43] <asac> i have to check that
[01:43] <asac> hmm just running scons did trigger a rebuild for me again
[01:43] <asac> maybe it doens like debug=on
[01:43] <asac> before it did incremental builds for sure
[01:45] <asac> seems just that building the tests triggers a rebuild of the real tree on its own
[01:48] <asac> good. after creating the soname link and setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH the mjsunit tests work
[01:49] <asac> ldd shell linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7ef9000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7eb0000) libv8.so.1 => ./libv8.so.1 (0xf7be7000)
[01:52] <asac> [04:24|% 100|+ 387|-   0]: Done
[01:52] <asac> nice
[08:55] <kaushal> hi
[08:55] <kaushal> I am running FF 3.5.1 on hardy. can i install FF 3.6 ?
[08:55] <kaushal> will that create issues ?
[08:56] <kaushal> I have already FF 3.0.11 and FF 3.5.1 in Hardy :-)
[08:56] <micahg> nope
[08:57] <micahg> each one should have its own profile folder
[08:57] <kaushal> micahg: nope means i can install FF 3.6 too ?
[08:57] <kaushal> right
[08:57] <micahg> yep, sorry, it's almost 3AM here :)
[08:58] <kaushal> ah you from East Coast
[08:58] <kaushal> ?
[08:59] <micahg> Central Time
[08:59] <kaushal> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre) Gecko/20090716 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) Shiretoko/3.5.1pre
[09:00] <kaushal> is that a correct version ?
[09:00] <kaushal> I am running it on Ubuntu Hardy
[09:00] <micahg> we don't have an official version of 3.5 for hardy yet
[09:00] <micahg> that's a daily version
[09:00] <kaushal> ok
[09:01] <kaushal> what does daily version mean ?
[09:01] <micahg> there's a new build every day from the development brance
[09:01] <kaushal> ah
[09:01] <micahg> *branch
[09:01] <kaushal> got it
[09:01] <micahg> it's what will become 3.5.1
[09:01] <kaushal> so is it safe to run on a production host ?
[09:02] <micahg> that's up to you
[09:02] <micahg> it should be fairly stable, but no guarantees
[09:02] <micahg> if you want a stable release 3.0.11 is the best we have right now
[09:03] <kaushal> micahg: FF 3.6 is cool
[09:03] <kaushal> it has a search for all the open windows
[09:05] <kaushal> is there a short cut key for List all tabs ?
[09:13] <micahg> idk
[09:13] <micahg> I don't use 3.6
[09:13]  * micahg is off to sleep, others will come soon
[11:57] <slee> asac: hi again - had trouble connecting to freenode
[11:58] <asac> hi
[11:58] <slee> asac: re update to 3.5 - on win/mac you get given an option via the Firefox update
[11:58] <asac> slee: so what did you do? go to synaptic and install firefox-3.5 (and firefox-3.5-gnome-support)
[11:58] <slee> so you get notified even if not monitory the news
[11:58] <asac> right. but we are delivering a complete desktop experience
[11:58] <asac> lets please not start discussing that again
[11:58] <slee> that doesn happen at all on ubuntu
[11:58] <slee> k,
[11:58] <slee> I just wanted ot be clear
[11:59] <slee> my real point is how to get it to work
[11:59] <slee> yes I did what you said
[11:59]  * slee checks
[12:00] <asac> slee: ok. then the most likely source of confusion for you is that the firefox-3.5 package is ment to be a preview package for those folks like you that cant wait (e.g. its a special service we do for firefox). so its not replacing your ffox 3.5,
[12:00] <asac> what you get is that boring Shiretoko named thing in the menu. you can safely use that
[12:00] <asac> http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/161-FAQ-Why-is-my-firefox-3.5-still-called-Shiretoko.html
[12:00] <asac> slee: ^^
[12:01] <slee> I have ffx 3.0.11 meta package and then I added 3.5. Nothing appeared to change
[12:01] <asac> slee: rewad what i just wrote
[12:01] <asac> read ;)
[12:01] <asac> 13:00 < asac> slee: ok. then the most likely source of confusion for you is that the firefox-3.5 package is ment to be a preview package for  those folks like you that cant wait (e.g. its a special service we do for firefox). so its not replacing your ffox 3.5,
[12:01] <asac> 13:00 < asac> what you get is that boring Shiretoko named thing in the menu. you can safely use that
[12:01] <slee> oh, will look again I did try looking in the menus, when my shortcut did nothing new
[12:01] <asac> 13:00 < asac> http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/161-FAQ-Why-is-my-firefox-3.5-still-called-Shiretoko.html
[12:01] <asac> 13:00 < asac> slee: ^^
[12:02] <asac> yes. we didnt migrate the default. for us its a separate app until we make it the default on the desktop. the idea is that users can still keep their old firefox working and still experiment with it
[12:02] <slee> we're getting out of sync - hold on
[12:03]  * asac goes and makes a coffee
[12:05] <slee> asac: OK I understand - seems I just missed the shiretoko in menu. Plus an old blog said it was very old build got me worried
[12:06] <slee> asac: great I see Skiretoko
[12:06] <slee> but it says 'Beta' - surely not?
[12:06] <asac> slee: thats a bug. yeah. check what is in about -> help
[12:07] <asac> unfortunately i forgot to fix that in the 3.5.1 update. but we will get 3.5.2 soon so i will fix it there now
[12:07] <slee> asac k - can't do yet as have FFx open
[12:08] <asac> slee: 3.5.2 isnt available yet. what you can do is to enable the security testing repo
[12:08] <asac> thats basically the bits that will get rolled
[12:08] <slee> asac can I suggest no test in synaptic for 3.5 mention the Shiretoko menu item?
[12:08] <asac> slee: not sure what you mean?
[12:09] <asac> slee: the package description?
[12:09] <slee> yes
[12:09] <asac> hmm
[12:09] <slee> cool. I also run minefield daily for bleeding edge, but like the official latest form MoCo as well for when feeling nervious
[12:09] <slee> thnaks oyu for all your help
[12:09] <slee> *you
[12:09] <asac> slee: for the short description?
[12:10] <asac> slee: we have a daily ppa too
[12:10] <asac> with firefox 3.6 and firefox 3.5 and tbird 3.0 and others
[12:10]  * slee check - means one in box below search list
[12:10] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[12:10] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[12:10] <asac> i would suggest that you enable both ... unless you dont want ffox 3.5 dailies too
[12:10] <slee> asac I don't know if that is the short one
[12:10] <asac> you can have all in parallel
[12:11] <slee> currently says 'safe and easy web browser from Mozilla....'
[12:11] <asac> the profiles are not shared (e.g. they are copied the first time you run) so you wont see profile bustage
[12:11] <asac> slee: right. ok. let me think about it
[12:11] <asac> safe and easy web browser from Mozilla - Codename: Shiretoko
[12:11] <asac> maybe something like that
[12:11] <asac> or
[12:12] <asac> safe and easy web browser from Mozilla known as firefox 3.5 aka Shiretoko
[12:12] <slee> asac; thank for pointing out ppa - will save me keep clicking on help->update
[12:12] <slee> cheers
[12:12] <asac> slee: you wil get another item in the menu for firefox 3.6 called "minefield" ;)(
[12:13] <asac> slee: anyway. if you could upgrade the firefox-3.5 to the one in the security ppa that would help a lot
[12:13] <slee> asac - just say 'intalled as Shiretoko in menus' ? or is that too variable?
[12:13] <asac> thats too long
[12:13] <asac> the short description must not have more then 70/80 chars afaik
[12:13] <slee> asac what does that give me again?
[12:13] <asac> slee: the security ppa? it gives you the security updates a few days ahead
[12:14] <asac> e.g. after mozilla has finished pre-QA, but before they roll it officially
[12:14] <slee> asac - ok I must be looking at the long one and it shows the short one first in the UI
[12:14] <asac> they are usually super stable
[12:14] <asac> its just that any user using that is helpful ... if he instantly reports regressions he might see
[12:14] <slee> asa ok security PPA it is ;-)
[12:14] <asac> here
[12:14]  * slee adds
[12:15] <asac> thanks. then instantly upgrade so you can use 3.5.1 right away
[12:15] <asac> thanks
[12:16] <asac> slee: you on jaunty right?
[12:16] <slee> asac thats from  shiretoko menu item right?
[12:17] <slee> yep jaunty
[12:17] <asac> slee: what is from the shiretoko menu item?
[12:18] <asac> (slee: remember to also install firefox-3.5-gnome-support if you are running gnome ... it doesnt get automatically pulled in until we make it the default (because kde folks complained))
[12:18] <asac> slee: the upgrade you do using update-manager
[12:18] <asac> after adding the ppa lines in software sources
[12:18] <asac> is that what you asked?
[12:19] <asac> e.g. system -> administration -> software sources
[12:19] <slee> asac - I meant how do I run the firefox form the security ppa
[12:19] <slee> asac - that is how I added the to lines to source yes
[12:19] <asac> slee: its the same ... just add the ppa. and upgrade to latest (if you already have installed 3.5)
[12:20] <slee> getting security error with new source on synaptic reload
[12:20] <slee> whoops mean "signature"
[12:20] <asac> slee: right. thats because ppa keys are signed. does the upgrade work?
[12:21] <asac> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7EBC211F
[12:21] <asac> try that on the command line
[12:21] <asac> that will make the security issue go away
[12:21] <slee> running now
[12:21] <asac> thats for the security ppa
[12:21] <slee> tah
[12:22] <slee> yes only using security not daily for now
[12:22] <asac> 247510BE  is for daily
[12:22] <asac> ok
[12:22] <asac> the run the command above ... its also explained on the ppa page
[12:22] <asac> Signing key: ... "What is this?"
[12:22] <slee> Geetin a message that ffx must be restarted so I need to close chatzilla
[12:23] <slee> so it is an "upgrade" not parallel now?
[12:23] <slee> do I need the 3.5 package as well
[12:23]  * slee getting a little confused
[12:24] <asac> sorry. not sure. if you installed the firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support packages through synpatic before
[12:24] <asac> just upgrading will give you the right thing
[12:24] <slee> yes i did
[12:24] <slee> k,
[12:24] <asac> and yes. you need to restart firefox
[12:24] <asac> after the upgrade
[12:24] <slee> thanks again for all your help
[12:24] <asac> slee: you can verify that in about -> help
[12:24] <asac> there you should see 3.5.1
[12:24] <slee> one day I like to understand what you've done with branding and XUL runner
[12:25] <asac> yes. stay in this channel and you will understand at some point
[12:25] <asac> it pops up frequently enough ;)
[12:25] <slee> is there a web page explaining for noobs to the mysteries of pkg management?
[12:25] <slee> hehe
[12:25] <asac> xulrunner -> basically all the firefox is not firefox, but xulrunner ...
[12:25] <asac> if you build firefox on top of xulrunner it just takes 4 minutes to build
[12:25] <asac> firefox is basically justa javascript and xml (xul)
[12:25] <slee> xull runner I know have used - but interested why you chose to use
[12:26] <slee> any way must go now
[12:26] <asac> ok cu around
[12:26] <slee> ciao
[12:26] <asac> welcome
[12:26]  * slee goes to enjoy ffx 3.5
[12:27]  * gnomefreak has now gotten very very pissed off
[12:30] <gnomefreak> now my known good card has no GUI
[12:32] <gnomefreak> oh msybe i know why
[12:33] <gnomefreak> maybe this will fix the 8400 problem (maybe == most likely not)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> asac: morning
[12:34] <asac> hi gnomefreak
[12:35] <gnomefreak> i will be screwing around with getting into a GUI at least for a little while
[12:35] <asac> i feel with you ;)
[12:35] <asac> gnomefreak: do you have any xorg.conf?
[12:35] <asac> i think good way is just to move that away somewhere and see if X works perfectly without any xorg.conf (which it should nowadays)
[12:36] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah but i doubt that is why i cant get in with new card not even into bios
[12:36] <gnomefreak> its worth a shot
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok its moved the 180 drivers are installed ill be back im gonna try to restart
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok am i here
[12:38] <gnomefreak> oh hell be back
[12:41] <asac> poor gnomefreak ;)
[12:45] <slee> asac: hi again
[12:45] <slee> unfortunately Shiretoko does not start
[12:46] <slee> I get the profile manager dialog and then nothing more
[12:54] <gnomefreak> i forgot that the upstream nvidia drivers changed the xorg.conf  however my 8400 is still an issue
[12:55] <gnomefreak> asac: is tseliot still our X guy?
[12:57] <asac> slee: can you run firefox-3.5 from a console and see what you get there?
[13:01] <slee> asac: huh! that worked and now so does the menu item
[13:01] <slee> I wonder if it is as FFX 3.0 is also running now.
[13:01] <slee> mighty weird
[13:02] <slee> oh no output to terminal at all - good sign
[13:03] <gnomefreak> slee: try ps aux | grep firefox if one is running you should see 2 processes
[13:03] <gnomefreak> is 2 is running you will see 3
[13:03] <gnomefreak> grep == 1 firefox entry
[13:03] <gnomefreak> be back in a minute i hope
[13:04] <fta> asac, damn, tb3 is stuck at b3, no b4pre now that b3 has been released. it breaks the dailies
[13:05] <fta> asac, oh. i see, your fault
[13:05] <asac> is b3 really realeased? its just tagged aafaik
[13:07] <gnomefreak> ok back to the 173 set up with upstream drivers. i really need to find out why the 8400 is not compatible with the PC
[13:08] <slee> asac gnomefreak : all is well now with Shiretoko, very strange
[13:08] <slee> will let you know any problems now using security ppa
[13:09] <fta> asac, cat build-tree/mozilla/mail/config/version-191.txt
[13:09] <fta> 3.0b3
[13:09] <fta> cat build-tree/mozilla/mail/config/version.txt
[13:09] <fta> 3.1a1pre
[13:09] <asac> yes. its +build1
[13:10] <asac> its not yet out afaik
[13:10] <fta> no build* tag, just release
[13:10] <asac> fta: yeah. i think thats their build tag atm
[13:11] <gnomefreak> fta: do you have pastebin it using ubuntu pastebin?
[13:11] <fta> yes
[13:12] <eagles0513875> hey guys :)
[13:12] <gnomefreak> fta: oh wait i think i can edit this fairly easy, something is wrong with mozilla pastebin so im changing it
[13:13] <fta> gnomefreak, do you have a ~/.pastebinit.xml
[13:13] <gnomefreak> fta: but i do need to see what address you are using
[13:13] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:13] <gnomefreak> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com)
[13:14] <gnomefreak> oh i see
[13:14] <fta> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/220468/
[13:15] <gnomefreak> tftthanks removing bin from address worked
[13:17] <gnomefreak> i gueess update iso update backup than email. i just need to find a back up app that compresses the .diffs so i can save as a tar.gz instead of 35+ diffs
[13:18] <gnomefreak> s/tftthanks/fta thanks
[13:20] <slee> asac: I have found the problem
[13:20] <roy_hobbs> is there any way to use the daily PPA for only official releases?
[13:22] <gnomefreak> roy_hobbs: no
[13:22] <fta> roy_hobbs, no, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa is probably what you want
[13:23] <gnomefreak> thats it
[13:23] <gnomefreak> might want to drop the edge. part
[13:23] <roy_hobbs> It's 3.5.1 an official release?
[13:24] <gnomefreak> yes
[13:24] <roy_hobbs> oh missed it sorry
[13:24] <gnomefreak> 1-2 days ago it became final
[13:25] <gnomefreak> asac: lots of sparc + hppa build failues
[13:26] <slee> asac: fyi if I start Shiretoko with any profile other than default it fails - even creating a new one
[13:26] <slee> I've got profiel dialog to come up every tiem I launch
[13:26] <gnomefreak> odd part as of yesterday 3.5.1 in daily isnt final
[13:26] <slee> the error is XWindows -  The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'
[13:26] <gnomefreak> 3.5.1~hg20090716r26073+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1  nevermind maybe it is
[13:26] <slee> that's all I get in stderr
[13:27] <slee> I have to go but will pop back Tueday or you can email me
[13:27] <gnomefreak> slee: rename your 3.5 profile and try. the default should be 3.0 IIRC
[13:28] <slee> huh? - the i seem to be sharing same default with 3.0 and 3.5
[13:29] <asac> sry on the phone
[13:30] <slee> must go
[13:30] <gnomefreak> maybe because you changed prefered apps?
[13:30]  * gnomefreak be back
[13:38] <asac> fta: oh really. what did i think ;)
[13:40]  * gnomefreak needs to check something. i cant be that stupid theres no damn way. be back
[14:15] <asac> fta: do you know how i can get a list of scons targets?
[14:15] <asac> scons --help gives me the options
[14:15] <asac> e.g. library=shared etc.
[14:15] <asac> but i cannot find how to do a scons clean ;)
[14:16] <asac> or see a list of targets available (which sounds odd because the optoin list is quite nice)
[14:16]  * asac runs rm -r obj/
[14:16] <asac> ;)
[14:19] <asac> hmm. wtf is dtoa.c ;)
[14:21] <asac> ah ok thats C
[14:21] <asac> maybe using CFLAGS helps ;)
[14:24] <eagles0513875> hey guys if you need anything tested even from source let me know
[14:25] <asac> eagles0513875: you mean anything? please run the -security PPA ;)
[14:25] <eagles0513875> link me baby one more time lol
[14:25] <asac> lol
[14:25] <asac> doesnt the awesome bar help ;)
[14:25] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[14:25] <eagles0513875> what answer bar O_O
[14:27] <asac> awesome bar
[14:27] <asac> e.g. in firefox location bar just type: "-security ppa"
[14:27] <asac> if you ever visited that page it should suggest it
[14:33] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[14:33] <eagles0513875> im sshed into my linux box atm
[14:33] <eagles0513875> and putty decided to crash when i was modifying the sources list or at least trying to with kate
[14:40] <fta> asac, depends on how the scons rules file was made; it may or may not list the targets :P
[14:48]  * eagles0513875 is getting upset at putty
[14:53] <asac> fta: heh. ok. so is there any clean in google projects?
[14:54] <asac> fta: anyway. what i really wanted to ask is where to best put something that creates headers before the build starts
[14:54] <asac> at best only on gcc archs
[14:54] <asac> in SConsscript
[14:54] <asac> i guess chromium already does a bunch of pre-shuffeling bits. the v8 script is to simplish and doesnt do anthing like that
[15:09] <eagles0513875> how can import the pgp key for the repo u linked me to asac
[15:10] <asac> 13:21 < asac> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7EBC211F
[15:10] <asac> eagles0513875: ^^
[15:10] <eagles0513875> ty asac:)
[15:10] <fta> chromium has gyp creating the scons files from a bunch of template, but there's a bug pending as they store those files in the source tree, which is not ideal for devs as they have to ignre those in their commits, so no real solution so far
[15:10] <fta> templateS
[15:12] <asac> fta: hmm.
[15:13] <asac> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220553/
[15:13] <asac> at best even only if the target file does not yet exist
[15:13] <eagles0513875> ssh (putty) + xmig :) best way to test stuff out :)
[15:13] <eagles0513875> *xming
[15:13] <fta> asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=15924
[15:14] <asac> hmm. i dont want to use gyp
[15:14] <fta> asac, "#°/bin/sh" ??
[15:14] <asac> heh
[15:14] <asac> i ran it with sh only ;)
[15:15] <fta> looks like a temporary hack to me, they probably want to do that once, and maintain their files properly
[15:15] <asac> i have that feeling that that single line would require quite a lot of python code ;)
[15:15] <asac> yeah. then one can keep such a script for maintenance
[15:16] <asac> ok. i will submit with that file attached and let them tell me what to do
[15:16] <fta> good
[15:17] <fta> hmm. i thought chromium had upstream the gyp files in v8 already..
[15:17] <eagles0513875> asac: :) upgrading files atm using apt-build
[15:17] <asac> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220554/
[15:18] <fta> i will ask, PDT time
[15:18] <asac> so you can use shlibtype=default or =hidden
[15:18] <asac> works great here ;)
[15:18] <asac> i am happy
[15:18] <asac> there is some cruft in it which should go to a different patch
[15:18] <asac> also the gcc 44 detection is non existing
[15:18] <asac> so one has to set GCC_VERSION=44 in env
[15:19] <fta> is -fno-strict-aliasing really needed for everything, i thought it was just needed for dtoa..
[15:19] <asac> no its needed for everything.
[15:19] <asac> it fails right on the first .cc file too
[15:20] <asac> i think you are running Wno-error now ;)
[15:20] <asac> but that will go to a different patch if they want it
[15:20] <asac> let me check if symbolic-functions also works
[15:24] <asac> too bad that i am not working on a git-svn checkout
[15:24] <asac> maybe i should rather get one before i go crazy because of svn
[15:24] <fta> you can sure do it for chromium, so should not be a problem for v8 either
[15:25] <fta> asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/UsingGit
[15:25] <asac> yeah. except that v8 will not bust up my precious storage on my sources partition ;)
[15:25] <asac> yeah i know git-svn pretty well
[15:26] <fta> you probably don't know cl ;)
[15:26] <asac> there is no v8 on git.chromium.org
[15:27] <asac> anyway git-svn started. i think thats good enough for now
[15:27] <asac> more than 370 revisions still to import ;)
[15:27] <asac> yeah git cl i dont know
[15:28] <asac> http://code.google.com/p/v8/wiki/UsingGit
[15:28] <asac> so i am doing the right thing ;)
[15:28] <asac> great
[15:47] <fta> hm, is there a policy for /etc/default/ ?
[15:49] <fta> i wonder if i should source /etc/default/chromium-browser in my launcher, or ship it in a new /etc/chromium-browser or something else..
[15:50] <fta> asac, ^^
[15:52] <asac> i think /etc/default is only used for initscripts
[15:53] <asac> for global configs use /etc/$pkgname
[15:53] <asac> you could also say /etc/chromium/browser/
[15:53] <asac> you could also say /etc/chromium/v8/
[15:53] <asac> etc.
[15:53] <asac> to allow other chromium- packages share the tree
[15:54] <asac> oh. btw. there is no git cl package
[16:08] <asac> its odd. the complete testcases suddenly started to work in the same v8 tree ;)
[16:13] <fta> i don't think v8 should be jailed to chromium
[16:13] <asac> jailed?
[16:13] <fta>  /etc/chromium/v8/
[16:13] <asac> well. its chromium-v8
[16:13] <asac> thats the package name
[16:13] <asac> so either its /etc/chromium-bprwser + -v8/ (if there are any settings at all) or it would be /etc/chromium/...
[16:14] <asac> i just think that the chromium project could share directory
[16:14] <asac> instead of creating them on their own
[16:14] <rhollencamp> hey can somebody download this html file (http://pastebin.com/d44a0e47b) and tell me if it renders correctly for them? it works fine in IE6 running under wine but not firefox 3.0 or 3.5
[16:14] <asac> well.
[16:14] <asac> no need to
[16:15] <asac> ie6 renders crap
[16:15] <asac> so its almost certainly not ffox problem
[16:15] <asac> if opera and chromium also render it like IE then yes.
[16:15] <asac> please check that
[16:17] <asac> http://acid3.acidtests.org/
[16:17] <fta> asac, maybe we should rename the src package to just v8
[16:17] <asac> rhollencamp: ^^ run that in IE6 and ffox  and other browsers
[16:17] <Pici> Is FF 3.5.1 heading to the repositories at any point in time? I don't care when just as long as I have some answer to tell these people who for some reason want the latest and greatest (sorry, a bit annoyed at those people today)
[16:17] <asac> fta: yes we can do that ;)
[16:17] <rhollencamp> opera renders my test doc fine
[16:17] <asac> fta: unless its a trademark (which it isafaik)
[16:17] <fta> asac, eh?
[16:18] <asac> v8
[16:18] <asac> (TM)
[16:18] <fta> asac, so what?
[16:18] <asac> you cant name the chromium browser chrome ... i woulld think that taking the pure "v8" name would be proper
[16:18] <asac> unless without getting ack from upstream to use it
[16:20] <fta> debian started with just v8, and we have tons of other apps doing that, imho, you're getting chilly for nothing
[16:20]  * asac is like a whipped dog if it comes to trademarks + FOSS ;)
[16:21] <asac> ok. we can of course go the "until they complain" path
[16:21] <fta> asac, "you cant name the chromium browser chrome" => true but why would i want to do that? it's not the same product
[16:22] <asac> ok ok ...
[16:22]  * asac gets brave again ;)
[16:23] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/220616/ ?
[16:23] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/220617/ for the full thing
[16:23] <asac> fta: why the "default" at all? does that refer to a certain profile?
[16:24] <asac> oh
[16:24] <asac> ;)
[16:24] <fta> asac, mostly because of this: http://codereview.chromium.org/149570
[16:25] <asac> i find it strange that i cannot see the diff directly on that page
[16:25] <fta> "download raw patch"
[16:26] <asac> i want to see all side by side
[16:26] <fta> file by file then
[16:26] <fta> or file a bug :)
[16:27] <asac> i dont see CHROMIUM_FLAGS specifically referred to
[16:27] <asac> in that patch
[16:27] <fta> I don't want to add --enable-plugins in the PPA builds, but i want to make it easy to power users to do it, through an env var or that default file
[16:27] <asac> (in both patches actually)
[16:28] <fta> look at *my* patch
[16:28] <asac> ok so you need more code. ok
[16:28] <asac> your patch only sets and sources it
[16:28] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/220616/
[16:28] <asac> but doesnt use it
[16:28] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/220617/
[16:28] <asac> heh
[16:28] <asac> double poster
[16:28] <asac> ok
[16:29]  * asac the one who never looks back
[16:46] <asac> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220631/
[16:46] <asac> wonder if thats a gcc bug
[16:46] <asac> for me it doesnt make much sense at least ;)
[16:49] <fta> hm
[16:49] <fta> ask doko
[16:50] <asac> sure. but he is not online
[16:50] <asac> but i guess he doesnt know
[16:50] <asac> if i dont get reply on twitter i will send a mail to gcc list
[16:53] <fta> SEAMONKEY_2_0b1_BUILD1
[16:53] <fta> and THUNDERBIRD_3_0b3_RELEASE (again)
[17:04] <micahg> asac: can you look at bug 400555
[17:05] <micahg> I added a note about the ff3.5 bug that's similar
[17:59] <fta> asac, lol https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-07-21/PreviousVersionBugs most of the bugs are for you ;)
[18:12] <bmhm> hi there
[18:15] <bmhm> asac, I finally subscribed you to that global menu issue
[18:16] <bmhm> but on google code (upstream), you have to subscribe yourself
[19:58] <kristina> does anyone know why js_RegExpClass is defined in /usr/include/xulrunner-1.9/unstable/jsregexp.h, but not in the libmozjs.so it generates?
[20:22] <asac> bmhm: whats the upstreawm url?
[20:22] <asac> kristina: usually unstable are only unfrozen elements
[20:22] <asac> but it might be a bug.
[20:27] <micahg> asac: can you look at bug 400555
[20:31] <asac> micahg: yeah already looked
[20:31] <asac> not exaclty sure why we see that
[20:31] <asac> the other was ok
[20:31] <asac> but that one ... no idea
[20:31] <asac> i think we hsould just properly test for the dir before touching
[20:31] <asac> then we can avoid this
[20:31] <micahg> it's not the same cause as the one you fixed for 3.5?
[20:32] <asac> remind me tomorrow or so
[20:32] <asac> habve to run (friday night)
[20:32] <micahg> ok, I won't be on till Sunday
[20:32] <asac> maybe the 3.5 didnt fix it completely
[20:32] <micahg> well, 3.5's a different package
[20:32] <micahg> this was for 3.0
[20:32] <asac> micahg: thats ok i thik.
[20:32] <asac> right. but we should do the same everywhere i guess
[20:32] <micahg> I'll poke you Sunday :)
[20:32] <asac> anyway ... off!
[20:32] <micahg> indeed
[20:32] <asac> thanks! enjoy your weekend too
[20:32] <micahg> you too
[20:51] <kristina> asac: thanks
[21:21] <fta> asac, why does ff 3.0 open the profile manager on 1st run now (after an upgrade)?
[21:37] <eagles0513875> hey guys hows firefox 3.5 looking
[21:39] <admaia> asac, podes ajudar-me? estou estou à toa com o Flash, não tenho som depois de instalar o firefox 3.5
[21:47] <micahg> asac isn't here right now
[21:49] <admaia> ok, gracias
[22:19] <bmhm> asac, I linked the upstream url in launchpads bug report.
[22:20] <bmhm> asac, http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/issues/detail?id=462
[23:00] <fta> mozilla 493541
[23:07] <LLStarks> asac
[23:07] <LLStarks> yo
[23:19] <fta> jdstrand, is the security team taking care of the ia32-libs package?
[23:23] <fta> jdstrand, <evmar> fta: % strings /usr/lib32/libpng12.so | grep 'libpng version' | head -1 libpng version 1.2.15beta5 - December 8, 2006
[23:24] <fta> jdstrand, and looking at http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html it doesn't look good
[23:24] <jdstrand> fta: ia32-libs is in universe on hardy and later and is community supported
[23:24] <fta> d'oh!
[23:24] <jdstrand> fta: we'd be happy to process debdiffs though
[23:25] <jdstrand> fta: I'm actually heading out, feel free to comment in the bug
[23:25] <fta> noway for this package, that will be a hundreds-MB binary diff
[23:26] <jdstrand> fta: if their is a better solution, we can consider it
[23:26] <fta> the src package in karmic is over 700MB
[23:27] <fta> just a sync with the build-in script, assuming hardy's png is correct
[23:27] <fta> !info libpng12-0 hardy
[23:28] <fta> !info libpng12-0 hardy-security
[23:28] <fta> !info libpng12-0 hardy-backports
[23:28] <fta> well, *sigh*
[23:29] <fta> i was trying to convince google to use more system libs, they pointed me to this :(
[23:46] <reed_> fta: they should just use mozilla's libpng
[23:46] <reed_> it's optimized, and it includes APNG!
[23:46] <reed_> :)
[23:47] <fta> reed_, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1171
[23:48] <fta> reed_, "The versions of the patches in Mozilla's Bugzilla are stale WRT the current libpng releases."
[23:50] <reed_> eh, I doubt that
[23:50] <reed_> Glenn is pretty good about keeping us up-to-date
[23:51] <reed_> mozilla bug 504805