[02:26] My computer can't seem to reconize the CD in the drive to live boot xubuntu. [02:27] Yes i've went into the setup and made the CD-Drive the first priotory for booting. [02:52] Howdy everybody ! Hopefully everybody's doing well today.Remember,as Craig Ferguson [Late,late show] always says..."it's a great day in America everybody" [02:53] Oops.Didn't quite mean to send that just yet but,heck...here we go... [02:53] not america only :P [02:53] Yeah,I know.......... [02:53] just some dumb stuff to say........ [02:53] :] [02:54] till I get to my issue hopefully I didn't offend anybody......didn't mean to [02:54] no offense taken [02:54] (greetings from finland) [02:54] So,again...hopefully everybody is doing well [02:54] Hey Fin !! [02:55] okay...I don't know how this happened but I now have some "broken links" on my desktop.... [02:56] so... what are those? [02:56] why don't you just remove them, or would you like them to work? [02:56] These links are basically nothing more than text messages I left on my desktop & I'm assuming that it happened during some updating...anybody have any clue ?? Particularly on how I cab fix these as these were letters I had started to friends relatives etc [02:57] I really need them to work [02:57] what is the error message if you try to open them? [02:57] or do you get one? [02:57] hmmmmmmm brb... [02:57] okay [02:58] okay... [02:59] I don't even get error message.........pc tries to open with an "open with" dialog box but then that automatically just dissappears [02:59] VERY QUICKLY [02:59] what if you open a text editor [02:59] and go to the open menu there [02:59] and try to open those fileS? [02:59] hmmmmmm now thats an idea hmmmmmmmm one moment............. [03:00] of course that's an idea ;) === Pici` is now known as Pici [03:03] Hmmmmmmmmm..... [03:03] right? [03:03] I get error.......... [03:03] what is that error? [03:03] am using abiword to try to open but originally these were made in notepad [03:03] that make a difference ? [03:03] maybe you should try mousepad [03:04] but should not really make difference [03:04] will try........ [03:04] what was the error btw? [03:04] will look... [03:06] error importing file ///home/desktop/letter%20to%20Rick.txt [03:07] okay [03:07] try mousepad [03:07] oh hmm... [03:07] /home/desktop doesn't sound right [03:07] For some reason, my xubuntu live cd is not reconnized upon startup [03:07] it should be /home/yourusername/Desktop (note the big D...) [03:08] Rubix`, can you boot from other discs? [03:08] never tried [03:08] is it an old pc? [03:08] but i know priority is set to CD-ROm [03:08] its from 2005 [03:09] okay [03:09] Rubix`, are you sure it's burnt correctly? [03:09] yes [03:09] it is reconized on other computers [03:09] not this one that i actually need it on though :( [03:09] okay... [03:10] Rubix`, i have very little ideas. [03:10] hmmmmmmmmm just looked in notepad for that letter & that particular broken link idn't even listed in there.Funny since basically notepad is where I do all my letter writing /jotting down notes [03:10] let me try whatknome said though [03:14] Hmmmmmmm okay.well-went to abiword clicked on "file" - "open" then scrolled down to the letter & highlighted it & clicked on open & that is when I get the error message.........and my username is indeed there [03:14] confusious, try to open with mousepad [03:16] kind of tried that already but will do again if you wish now....... I have noticed that all these particular files were "last modified" on 4/167/09 at approx2:40 ish pm [03:16] 4/16/09 [03:16] yeah i would like to know which error it gives [03:17] error importing file ///home/desktop/letter%20to%20Rick.txt [03:17] okay, open a terminal [03:17] ok.......... [03:17] and cd to Desktop [03:17] term opened [03:18] cd to desktop ?? [03:18] "cd Desktop" [03:18] cd is for change directory [03:18] I'm sorry....you'll have to be gentle with me [03:18] no problem :) [03:19] kind of a newb especially to term use [03:19] so what does what you just said mean.......type "cd" in term ? [03:19] type "cd Desktop" in the terminal without the wuotes [03:19] *quotes [03:19] thanks [03:20] then if you type "ls -l letter*", what do you get? [03:20] Hmmmmmm capital "d" ? [03:20] yes, capital d :) [03:20] I get more response that way [03:21] you should be given a list where you can see the file you are trying to open, right? [03:21] okay....good to go term says............./Desktops [03:21] yep, then "ls -l letter*" [03:21] Uhhhhhhh no....... [03:21] ? [03:21] all that's there is /desktops [03:22] type "ls -l letter*" [03:22] ok [03:22] again without the quotes [03:22] and press enter :) [03:22] do you have any output? [03:22] yes [03:22] okay, what is it? [03:22] if it's more than 3 lines, use pastebin [03:22] !pastebin [03:22] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [03:23] I get... [03:23] lrwxrwxrwx 1 bobby bobby 59 2009-04-16 02:41 letter to union.txt -> /home/bobby/Desktop/Letters In Progress/letter to union.txt [03:23] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:23] okay [03:23] can you open that file from mousepad? [03:23] But,hmmmmmmmm.where is my letter to my brother ?? hmmmmmm [03:24] let's get to that next [03:24] Uhhhhhhh hmmmmmmmm okay can you explain to me what it is you want me to do exactly ? [03:24] open mousepad and try to open the file "/home/bobby/Desktop/Letters In Progress/letter to union.txt" [03:24] going through the file->open menu [03:25] should I just copy/paste what you just typed ? [03:25] no, just browse [03:26] cuz those are all diff letters don't know why they're grouped together like that' [03:26] ok [03:26] have already done this though & that's when I get that error message.......... [03:26] with this file also? [03:27] ahhhhhhhhhh remember though.......that particular letter I can't even seem to find there in notepad for some reason [03:27] so can you find this one and open it? [03:28] noooooooo............. [03:28] okay, let's go back to terminal [03:28] type "ls /home" [03:28] The Letter To Rick Isn't there like it's suppossed to be [03:28] what do you get? [03:28] ok [03:29] I get bobby donna [03:29] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:29] okay... [03:29] seems like the files are tried to link to a path that does not exist. [03:29] type "sudo updatedb" [03:29] and give your password as the system asks for it [03:29] and then wait [03:30] still waiting for response after entering pass [03:31] yep, it takes a while [03:31] it doesn't give you any output but returns back to the terminal once it's finished [03:31] now I've got......bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:31] okay [03:31] now type "locate rick" [03:32] okay now how the heck do all of you guys who do this remember all of this ? Just years of practice ? [03:32] ok knome [03:32] maybe or just being geek enough ;) [03:33] Damn.I wanna be a Geek ! [03:33] Okay......... [03:33] maybe you one day will be if you just mess around enough :) [03:33] so do you get any output? [03:33] now I've got........ bobby donna [03:33] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ sudo updatedb [03:33] [sudo] password for bobby: [03:33] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ locate rick [03:33] /home/bobby/Desktop/Mozilla Tips & Tricks.txt [03:33] /usr/share/app-install/desktop/val-and-rick.desktop [03:33] /usr/share/app-install/icons/val-and-rick.xpm [03:33] /usr/share/doc/imagemagick/images/tricks.png [03:33] /usr/share/gimp/2.0/gimpressionist/Paper/bricks.pgm [03:33] /usr/share/gimp/2.0/gimpressionist/Paper/bricks2.pgm [03:33] /usr/share/gimp/2.0/patterns/brick.pat [03:33] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:33] [03:34] i'm sorry, but it looks like you don't have the file :( [03:34] try "locate Rick" [03:35] oh well [03:35] ok [03:35] i can't remember if locate distincts cases [03:36] (apparently it does after a quick test) [03:36] I get... /home/bobby/Desktop/Letter To Rick.txt [03:36] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:36] okay [03:36] so if you type "mousepad Letter To Rick.txt", what happens? [03:36] Yes,"rick" is actually "Rick" [03:36] actually... [03:37] type "mousepad ", then type "Lette" and press TAB [03:37] it will autocomplete the filename [03:39] hmmmmm after I did the first thing you asked it attempted to open a letter but the letter seemed uhhhhhhhhhh definate4ly different [03:39] what did it look like? [03:40] it had the word "letter" at the top & then the inside had............ [03:41] a greyed out # ! & the reest of the letter was blank [03:41] #1 [03:41] right [03:41] i see [03:41] the correct command is [03:41] do you ?? this is good ? [03:41] ahhhhh [03:41] "mousepad Letter\ To\ Rick.txt" [03:41] note the backslashes [03:42] uhhhhh huh [03:42] (it's just a way to tell the terminal that the space is part of the filename) [03:44] what happens now then? [03:45] ......... [03:46] I copied & pasted that in term & got..............nothing [03:47] okay, if you type "ls -l Letter*", what do you get? [03:47] note the big L [03:48] tried again with fresh term & same happened................. [03:48] if you're in a fresh terminal, you need to "cd Desktop" first [03:48] got blank page with # 1 off to side greyed out [03:48] are you sure ? [03:49] yes, i am sure [03:49] seemed to work even though I didn't do that [03:49] but okay........ [03:49] yes, but then it only creates a new file [03:49] okay then........ [03:49] you want to open an existing file so you need to be in the correct directory [03:51] hmmmmmmm got same thing.... [03:51] uhm [03:51] an emty page [03:52] but...... [03:52] it does at least say........"latter to rick" at top [03:52] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ mousepad Letter\ To\ Rick.txt [03:52] was this the line you had at terminal? [03:53] yes [03:53] so if you type "ls -l Letter*", what do you get? [03:54] hmmmmmmmm nothing [03:54] nothing? [03:54] note the casing [03:55] you totally should get output now. [03:55] ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait.... [03:57] i just closed one of the "letters" that were opened I now I've got........... [03:57] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ ls -l Letter* [03:57] -rw-r--r-- 1 bobby bobby 1239 2009-07-04 14:16 Letter To LG Electronics.txt [03:57] lrwxrwxrwx 1 bobby bobby 58 2009-04-16 02:41 Letter To Rick.txt -> /home/bobby/Desktop/Letters In Progress/Letter To Rick.txt [03:57] Letters: [03:57] total 0 [03:57] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:58] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop$ [03:58] okay [03:58] cd now, if you type "cd Letters\ In\ Progress" and then "ls -l Letter*", what do you get? [04:00] after cd Letters\ In\ Progress I get...bash: cd: Letters In Progress: No such file or directory [04:00] what is the complete "ls" output (please pastebin) [04:00] !pastebin | confusious [04:00] confusious: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [04:03] How can I remove "Sun Java 6 Web Start" menu? [04:04] igsen, you have to edit (or remove) its corresponding .desktop file manually. [04:04] i don't know where that is, sorry. [04:04] I have already put "NoDisplay=true" on every "sunjava.desktop" I can locate on my computer but it is still there. [04:05] have you tried logging out and in? [04:05] Yes I did [04:05] okay... [04:11] confusious, ? [04:12] Okay everybody post is @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/220221/ [04:12] good luck [04:14] confusious, what do you get with "cd Letters" and then "ls" ? [04:14] actually, "ls -l" [04:16] with cdletters I get bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop/Letters$ [04:16] yes, and then type "ls -l" [04:17] and then with ls -l I get total 0 [04:17] bobby@cybertek:~/Desktop/Letters$ [04:17] okay [04:17] then i'm afraid i have to tell you that the original letter files seem to be lost. [04:17] you have the links pointing to a path that does not exist. [04:17] are you guys sure you want to keep on looking for all this ?? [04:17] okay. [04:18] well,not a great loss but can anybody explain to mwe what may have happened ?? I THINK it was because of an update that kind of went afoul [04:19] an update does not break filesystems [04:19] at least not this way [04:19] the only explanation i can think of that you have thought you copied the files but the system only created links to the original [04:19] which you since deleted [04:20] hmmmmmmmmmm [04:20] there is a possibility that they are in trash, but as they didn't show up on locate... [04:20] that's kind of what I was thinkg [04:20] guess I could go lookl huh ? [04:20] sure. [04:20] open up thunar [04:21] you should see the wastebasket icon on the left [04:24] uhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhh too late.......... just emptied all the garbage again [04:24] okay [04:24] sorry knome [04:24] sorry to hear [04:24] no problem [04:24] i wouldn't have done this if i didn't have the passion [04:24] hey thanks sooooooo much for trying my friend [04:24] no problem :) [04:25] See you again sooner or later until then peace [04:26] yeah. see you and have fun using xubuntu :) [04:40] hey knome u stll there ? [04:41] got another small quest but only if we can do it fairly quickly ! heh heh gotta go & het the woman something to eat !! AND MYSELF [04:41] okay anybody !............... [04:42] I now havew some "broken links" on the desktop & I cannot seem to delete them anybody know what to do with this situation as now I just have useless icons taking up space ??? [04:45] hmmmmmmm 53 people here & nobody wants to talk to confusious ?? [04:45] hmmmmmmmmm guess you all just want to saty in the dark then huh ?? [04:45] heh heh [04:45] stay [04:45] good boy ! [04:47] ohhhhhhh well try again another time thanks anyway ya'll [04:47] peace out [04:48] uhm [08:27] hi. how can I launch from command line the users/groups administration gui ? [08:27] hi. how can I launch from command line the users/groups administration graphical interface ? [08:30] found. users-admin [08:32] the problem is that I can unlock the gui... so I can't add new users. where could be the problem ? I have launched the interface as root [09:08] does it work when you first switch user? [09:08] first sudo su [09:08] then users-admin [09:08] it works in my case [09:08] sudo users-admin doesnt work [09:09] ramrod: try gksu users-admin [09:10] ** (users-admin:6751): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '6751' [09:10] same with sudo users-admin [09:10] hmm.. strange, worked first time, not subsequent times [09:16] what's the default display manager in xubuntu. [09:16] owen1, gdm [09:16] cody-somerville: interesting. thanks [09:17] np [09:30] cody-somerville: let's say i want to run an conky with awesome. right now i do it wit a script i run and link to this script from .xinitrc. how to achieve this with gdm? [09:32] owen1, does that not work with gdm? [09:32] dgm is not using .xinitrc [09:32] i think [09:33] right now i have a few lines in .xinitrc, each line different wm [09:33] and i comment all of them except for 1. [09:34] and I also have link to bash script that runs conky in the background. [09:34] so if i want to have conky i uncomment this script. [09:34] owen1, there is also an "autostarted applications" entry in the settings manager btw, thats where i start conky [09:36] ablomen: ok. but what if i want to run conky with awesome instead of xfce. [09:36] that's why i need to find a way to tell gdm to run my script file. [09:37] but only run it for some of my wms. [09:37] window managers [09:37] oh awsome is a wm, im guessing editing one of the sessions in /etc somewhere [09:39] i think it was /etc/xdg where you can add sessions, not sure though [09:43] ablomen: i'll take a look [09:44] /etc/xdg/autostart - looks promising [09:47] oops. maybe not [10:07] is there anyway i can run a command before i login so a application is running at the logon screen? [10:12] techie, you would have to make an init file then, or add the command in /etc/rc.local [10:13] thankyou ablomen [10:13] yw [10:13] techie: ablomen is it relevant to my question? [10:13] how to configure gdm to run a script before starting one of my window managers? [10:14] owen1: i do believe that ablomen's answer would most likely work in your case aswell [10:14] no [10:14] it wont [10:15] since owen1 wants a userland application to start [10:15] that should happen after login [10:15] hrmm [10:15] might he be able to achieve this via run levels? [10:16] techie: so u want to run something BEFORE the login screen (gdm)? [10:16] yes, synergy to be exact [10:16] afaik thats all system wide, conky is user specific, and only works once a dm starts [10:17] owen1, you should google for making gdm sessions, there should be a lot of content about that [10:17] ablomen: great, thank you [10:18] if anyone else is looking for an alternative to buying a KVM switch i highly recommend synergy [10:20] techie: what is this [10:20] too bad it doesn't do sound switching [10:21] owen1, its handy when you have more than one box but have only one keyboard+ mouse+ screen, and/or you want to remove clutter :p google up what kvm is [10:21] synergy is an application that allows you to control multiple boxes from one keyboard and mouse pair [10:21] but those computers have to be networked [10:21] unfortunately this doesnt show the screen [10:21] psycho_oreos: i have kvm that doesn't work with my keyboard [10:21] but its handy none the less [10:21] techie, heh well its only km then :D [10:22] owen1, generic brand? [10:22] lol [10:22] iogear [10:23] http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ and good news is that its on aptitude [10:23] I've got a kvm here.. its actually kvm+s but I love having two monitors showing two different things on the screen rather than one for both or two for one boxen [10:23] the combination of keys that switches between computers is not available in dinovo edge [10:23] owen1, never heard, I've got aten, costed me heaps but it was somewhat well worth the money [10:23] thats the upside to this app, you just move the mouse off the side of the screen as if it was a second or third screen [10:24] no combinations needed [10:24] so that would make it almost like one of those fancy things you see in beryl/compiz lol [10:24] workspace switching via cursor movement [10:25] sorta [10:25] but instead of being a virtual desktop its a whole different box and possibly even different OS [10:25] yeah [10:25] im controlling a Xubuntu box from my 2 screen XP box [10:26] meaning you have dual display and each box gets to use those two displays? [10:26] no, i have a dual display on my xp machine [10:27] and another screen on the Xubuntu machine [10:27] ahh ok [10:27] all in all 3 screens [10:28] i really want to get a virtual desktop from my xp machine and network it onto this box like xinerama [10:28] techie, you have looked at freenx/vnc for that already? [10:29] been down the vnc path before [10:29] too slow [10:29] never tried xinerama, but synergy literally puts itself almost into the same arena as remote desktop software, like vnc lol [10:29] i need something thats optimised for a virtual screen [10:29] freenx should be a lot faster, havnt tried it myself though [10:30] i wil have to look into that [10:30] there was supposedly a new mode in which vnc can render the updates faster, I think it was using delta display driver or something.. realvnc has it [10:31] i have come across applications that do exactly what i need in the past but theyve been for the wrong OS [10:32] http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ <--- for OS X [10:32] whoops, wrong link [10:32] http://www.screenrecycler.com/home.html [10:33] i also found a windows <--> windows application that does the same thing... but im having trouble gettign xp to install as my dvd burner is packign a sad [10:34] http://www.maxivista.com/ [10:35] maybe ill try installing ME then upgradign to XP vi a USB drive tonight [10:38] actually ill do that now [10:38] ill jump back on from my windows box === Techie-temp is now known as Techie [10:49] i want to add querty to my keyboard layout. what is the name for US querty? [10:50] Alternative International? [10:50] hehe i just realised win ME recommended specs are a 300mhz cpu and 32mb RAM [10:50] should be USA keyboard USA layout [10:50] atleast thats what it is in the installer [10:51] alternative international has sticky keys [10:51] (when you press the ' key and then e youll get é) [10:52] i am in the keybard layout selection. I opened 'USA'. i see: cherokee, devorak, colemak, macintosh, more devork types, russian phonetic.. [10:53] btw, i installed xfce. not xubuntu. [10:57] i think i might not have querty? since at the installation i chose dvorak. [10:57] possibly, but i wouldnt think so [10:58] i see querty under some other languages. [10:58] slovakia, [10:58] ... [10:58]