[01:47] <Michelle_Qimo> i'm getting ready to start the 'parent/user guides' and need a place that can share them with you all.  Any suggestions?  also, any preference on the first application to start with?
[03:56] <Ahmuck-Jr_> parent user guides?  as in application user guides?
[03:57] <Ahmuck-Jr_> samek: iirc, it's a known problem.  i think sbalneav or stgraber was working on sabayon
[15:03] <samek> Ahmuck-Jr_: thanks for your answer.. i found working .deb package posted in the sabayon mailing list
[15:03] <samek> if anyone interested
[15:18] <samek> Ahmuck-Jr_: you're right it was released by sbalneav
[19:13]  * Ahmuck-Jr_ just realized something.  .04 is the unstable version and .10 is the more stable version
[19:14] <Ahmuck-Jr_> so upgrading should be put off until x.10
[19:23] <mhall119> what?
[19:25] <ogra> ??
[19:27] <ogra> Ahmuck-Jr_, you mean you belive karmic will be more stable than jaunty ?
[19:27]  * ogra wonders what makes you think that
[19:41] <Ahmuck-Jr_> 8.04 was unstable, hence 8.04.1
[19:41] <Ahmuck-Jr_> 8.10 had more problems than 8.04.1
[19:41] <Ahmuck-Jr_> 9.04 unstable until 9.04.1 ?
[19:41] <ogra> thats nonsense
[19:42] <ogra> 8.04 is a long term support release, from these new isos are rolled with the fixes included ... non LTS releases simply dont get new isos
[19:42] <ogra> so there wont be a 9.04.1 ever
[19:43] <ogra> all releases have similar issues ... some bugs are simply not fixed in time, for these we do stable release updates of the packages which you get as updates from update manager
[19:44] <ogra> LTS releases are supported for 3 years and used in many business environments where people dont do network based upgrades, so updated CDs are rolled
[21:58] <mhall119> For anyone who can help us with Qimo's development, I started a new launchpad team to coordinate us: https://launchpad.net/~qimo-developers