| DanaG | argh, when the heck will Xorg be able to handle keycodes > 255? | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| DanaG | damn xorg. | 00:31 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227 | 00:31 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 11227 in Input/Core "Allow > 255 keycodes" [Enhancement,New] | 00:31 |
| MindVirus | When is Karmic going into beta? | 01:03 |
| yofel | MindVirus: see the release schedule in the topic | 01:05 |
| MindVirus | yofel, thanks. :) | 01:05 |
| MindVirus | Sweet, it's coming out as stable near my birthday. | 01:06 |
| MindVirus | Great present. | 01:06 |
| MindVirus | Now, what will be new/improved in Karmic? | 01:07 |
| jpds | Loads of fun stuff. :) | 01:07 |
| jpds | I'm loving Karmic on my laptop. | 01:08 |
| MindVirus | jpds, may I have an example? | 01:08 |
| jpds | Grub2? I think blueman is now the default bluetooth applet (which is a lot better than the last one). | 01:10 |
| MindVirus | What's new in Grub? | 01:10 |
| MindVirus | Any improvements to the file chooser? | 01:11 |
| MindVirus | And to PulseAudio? NetworkManager? | 01:11 |
| RAOF | So... eglibc. Does that kill anyone's system? | 01:12 |
| jpds | RAOF: Not mine. | 01:13 |
| Bacta | Any news on the new theme? | 01:14 |
| arand | It will have the | 01:15 |
| arand | Ubuntu brown. | 01:15 |
| Bacta | Ubuntu brown? | 01:15 |
| Bacta | That doesn't sound nice | 01:15 |
| arand | Bacta: meaning, probably no new theme in this release either :) and maybe not in the next, but in a couple of years, I'm sure it'll be there ;) | 01:16 |
| Bacta | Someone did have the idea of having a competition where people can submit their ideas and then there's a vote | 01:16 |
| Bacta | Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me | 01:16 |
| Bacta | Currently is there a way of doing the glass transparency effect you get with Vista? | 01:18 |
| arand | Bacta: Well, there is already artwork/incoming wiki, although no voting there, and brainstorm with votes, but not very good for visualizing.. | 01:18 |
| Bacta | I think there needs to be more desktop backgrounds shipped with it | 01:19 |
| Bacta | The orange one that came with 9.04 is actually depressing after a while | 01:19 |
| arand | Bacta: I don't know, you mean like window borders? I'm sure emarald would do that... haven't looked though... | 01:19 |
| Bacta | Kind of like this http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/139/5/9/Windows_Vista_Glass_PSD_by_halfwayglad.jpg | 01:20 |
| RAOF | It's kinda possible to do that, but not really. | 01:21 |
| Bacta | Ubuntu is getting there in terms of usability but it does look a little depressing to me ;) | 01:21 |
| Bacta | Perhaps I should up the prozac instead of whining | 01:22 |
| arand | Bacta: I guess http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Azul+Glassy?content=92208 is somewhat like that... | 01:27 |
| Bacta | Yep that looks cool :) | 01:28 |
| arand | Bacta: But Indeed I've started setting ub my own default ubu theme, by now, brown ages quickly. I use new-wave+clearlooks+tango/tangerine icons, and a custom blue-ish tone for marking, handles, etc... | 01:30 |
| Bacta | Screenshot? | 01:30 |
| * arand rummages around after an old shot. | 01:33 | |
| arand | Bacta: Something like: http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5046/wtblue.png | 01:35 |
| yofel | If we're already talking about themese, here's mine ;) http://imagebin.ca/view/5bZsig.html blue darkroom/glider/oxygen-icons/oxygen-cursor | 01:37 |
| yofel | the brown ubuntu theme *is* depressing | 01:37 |
| arand | yofel: and at the same time it feels to warm, to goey, intrusive almost... always preferred colder colours I guess. | 01:40 |
| yofel | One theme I really like is aurora http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Gtk+Engine?content=56438 - shame it's not in the repos | 01:41 |
| yofel | arand: yeah, know what you mean | 01:41 |
| Bacta | arand: You do have the transparency thing going too | 01:41 |
| Bacta | yofel: Gundam Wing .. typical ;) | 01:42 |
| arand | yofel: Neat theme there btw, although I'm not sure I like thew intesity of the blue, kinda bit too neon-y for me.. | 01:42 |
| yofel | Bacta: actually it's the Exia from G00 | 01:42 |
| DanaG | I prefer Nodoka, myself. | 01:43 |
| DanaG | www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot.png | 01:43 |
| Bacta | heh ... this is what you get on torrentz.com when their servers are overloaded http://torrentz.com/img/hamster.jpg , cute | 01:44 |
| DanaG | That theme (especially on a non-glossy display) == wonderfully smooth. | 01:44 |
| DanaG | ugh, now my mute is screwed up... the hardware mute and the software mute are stuck opposite each other. | 01:44 |
| arand | DanaG: That theme is very... orange. | 01:45 |
| DanaG | I like orange. =þ | 01:46 |
| DanaG | Though if I wanted to tone it down, I could use the color-picker on the wallpaper. | 01:46 |
| yofel | well, at least the backround fits the theme :D | 01:46 |
| DanaG | oh, I'd forgotten which wallpaper was in the screenshot. | 01:48 |
| arand | Hmm, I like plain backgrounds, I want to be able to see my icons :) (I honestly don't get all those wallpapers where the main "thing" is on the left side, perfect for interfereing with the icons...) | 01:49 |
| DanaG | This is my current background: http://konachan.com/image/e4b7fcf53c18c4010d591bd7ee92eb37/Konachan.com%20-%209504%20clamp%20fay_d_flourite%20kurogane%20sakura%20syaoran%20tsubasa_reservoir_chronicle.jpg | 01:51 |
| DanaG | Though I cropped it to the top 1600x1000. | 01:51 |
| DanaG | Oh, and be warned: might wanna' search that site with keyword AND "rating:safe". | 01:51 |
| DanaG | That's what I was thinking of when I mentioned color picker and "toning down" the color. | 01:53 |
| arand | I recently cropped up one from a webcomic: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9270/0573.png taken from: http://rosalarian.com/yume/?p=1328 | 01:55 |
| Tekno | morning | 02:07 |
| arand | Tekno: morning... I guess, /me is heading off to bed soon... | 02:08 |
| DanaG | Here's something weird I get: I can't boot via grub-efi anymore -- it (the kernel) acts like it can't comprehend the ext4 partition. | 02:26 |
| DanaG | Unable to mount root on unknown-block(0,0) | 02:28 |
| DanaG | or: "unsupported optional features" -- because it's trying to mount as ext3. Or: no init found. | 02:28 |
| arand | Main menu stopped working, al of a sudden... odd... | 02:39 |
| arand | hmm, logout/login solved it... | 02:41 |
| Tekno | morning | 03:57 |
| gnomefreak | cant be morning yet, i haent slept yet :( | 04:09 |
| Tekno | :D | 04:09 |
| m3ga | anyone else having problems with timeouts when ssh-ing into a karmic ssh server? | 04:10 |
| virtuald | 05:27 < virtuald> how do i get rid of this blinking getty without an inittab? | 04:30 |
| virtuald | 05:27 < virtuald> it pops up over x and disappears | 04:30 |
| HowDoI | Is there anything that would make Karmic lock up immediately after booting besides "It's still in Alpha"? | 04:43 |
| poseidon | So is there scheduled to be any major gui changes in KK, or are they going to put it off till LL? | 04:47 |
| poseidon | by gui changes I mean default look (ie the brown theme) | 04:48 |
| HowDoI | I read that it might be put off again | 04:48 |
| ubuntukl | y does my pc keep lockin up at startup? http://pastebin.com/m993dfdc | 04:57 |
| poseidon | HowDoI, you mean put off untill karmic+2? | 04:59 |
| andresmujica | poseidon: definitely for next LTS ... that's what Mark said... | 05:03 |
| HowDoI | That's what I hear from some site that had an interview with Shuttleburg | 05:03 |
| andresmujica | Shuttleworth | 05:04 |
| HowDoI | So they claim to have fixed most of the issues with Intel Graphics for Karmic, but is there any way to get those working with Jaunty? | 05:04 |
| andresmujica | xorg-edgers | 05:05 |
| andresmujica | and mainline kernels | 05:05 |
| poseidon | andresmujica, he made it sound like there was going to be a new theme for karmic | 05:06 |
| HowDoI | I tried that, but the entire system locked up immediately on booting with those new packages | 05:07 |
| andresmujica | yeap. it's the hint for a new theme, but i don't get a firm conviction about it from what i've read... | 05:08 |
| andresmujica | howdol: and the ext4 line is the last you get? | 05:09 |
| HowDoI | No, I mean it usually gets to the desktop and then freezes | 05:09 |
| HowDoI | So far my Memtest86 hasn't found anything, so It's probably not my RAM | 05:10 |
| andresmujica | a lot of bugs have that exactly symptom... hard to tell. | 05:19 |
| HowDoI | Well it did the exact same thing in Jaunty after I installed the updated X-related packages | 05:20 |
| andresmujica | anyway there were some X stack updates to Jaunty that reduced the freeze considerably... | 05:20 |
| HowDoI | Well, the instructions I used weren't exactly clear as to whether the new packages required kernel 2.6.30 or not | 05:21 |
| andresmujica | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze#Problem:%20%20Freezes%20right%20after%20entering%20login%20credentials | 05:24 |
| andresmujica | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/IntelDriver | 05:26 |
| HowDoI | Hmm, I think I'll just wait for the problem to get fixed in Karmic | 05:30 |
| HowDoI | Actually I'm not so sure, considering the problem won't get fixed in Jaunty. Is this correct? | 05:30 |
| andresmujica | would be mitigated. Jaunty is EXA, so the performance is better in Karmic definitely | 05:36 |
| HowDoI | That only applies if I can actually use the system though | 05:37 |
| andresmujica | you can try nopat option kernel at boot | 05:38 |
| andresmujica | maybe its your bug | 05:38 |
| HowDoI | What is nopat? | 05:38 |
| andresmujica | bug #372028 | 05:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 372028 in linux "broken PAT code in kernel causes consistent xorg freeze at startup for some users of intel driver" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372028 | 05:39 |
| virtuald | anyone know a way to search throug /usr for files not from any package? | 05:40 |
| HowDoI | I used the 2.6.30 kernel with Jaunty and did not experience the freezing problem | 05:40 |
| SwedeMike | are they still releasing 2.6.30 kernels for karmic (as new stable revisions of vanilla kernel are released) ? | 05:41 |
| andresmujica | 2.6.31 rc3 | 05:42 |
| SwedeMike | No, I meant like 2.6.30.3 | 05:43 |
| andresmujica | ahh Mainline kernels you mean? | 05:44 |
| SwedeMike | yes. | 05:44 |
| andresmujica | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds | 05:44 |
| andresmujica | yeap | 05:44 |
| andresmujica | ok i'm out... | 05:44 |
| SwedeMike | ah, well, I didnt want mainline kernels either, I wanted the ubuntu ones but new ones as bugs were fixed in mainline | 05:45 |
| DanaG | http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/07/16/firefox-3-5-suffers-critical-js-flaw/1 | 06:01 |
| Tefad | their JIT gets confused | 06:03 |
| HowDoI | They need to get their JIT straightened out | 06:06 |
| HowDoI | You could say that their security problems have put them in a world of JIT | 06:06 |
| DanaG | hah, installing ntp package just gave me a "config file changed" file where the "old" was entirely empty. | 07:04 |
| === YDdraigGoch is now known as Fluffles | ||
| m3ga | anyone else having problems with timeouts when ssh-ing into a karmic ssh server? | 07:37 |
| jml | I can ssh localhost just fine. | 07:41 |
| m3ga | it works, but i get the hang followed by a timeout. | 07:44 |
| m3ga | the ocassional hang | 07:45 |
| JBauer | Here | 08:50 |
| JBauer | Hi, I'm running Ubtuntu 9.10. I've played with some servers: SSH, FTP, HTTP. I would really want to know if I still run those | 08:50 |
| JBauer | And if they start when i login | 08:51 |
| |ns|nR8 | you could see if the port is listening | 08:52 |
| JBauer | how? | 08:52 |
| |ns|nR8 | well for standard http the port listening would be port 80 unlkess you changed it | 08:53 |
| |ns|nR8 | so command to find that port listening would be um | 08:53 |
| |ns|nR8 | netstat -nat | grep 80 | 08:53 |
| |ns|nR8 | or netstat -nat | grep "80" | 08:53 |
| |ns|nR8 | ssh is grep 22 | 08:54 |
| |ns|nR8 | ftp 21 | 08:54 |
| JBauer | ok i have this: tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN | 08:54 |
| |ns|nR8 | that means you have web server running...in your browser put http://127.0.0.1 | 08:54 |
| JBauer | and how do i stop those? | 08:55 |
| |ns|nR8 | do you want to stop it or remove it | 08:55 |
| JBauer | and is there a way for someone to enter my pc and copy my files? on ssh for ex? | 08:55 |
| JBauer | remove it. | 08:55 |
| |ns|nR8 | depends what type of connection your on....is your modem a nat router ? | 08:55 |
| JBauer | router | 08:55 |
| |ns|nR8 | then they cant connect froom internet unless you set port forward in router | 08:56 |
| |ns|nR8 | people on local LAN can access tho | 08:56 |
| JBauer | My isp has the router. not me | 08:56 |
| JBauer | my isp has a lan, and we all get internet from it | 08:56 |
| |ns|nR8 | whats your internet ip..go to www.whatismyip.com | 08:57 |
| |ns|nR8 | ill see if i can connect to you | 08:57 |
| |ns|nR8 | ok | 08:57 |
| JBauer | 193.239.1401.184 | 08:57 |
| |ns|nR8 | invalid ip | 08:57 |
| JBauer | so you can't? | 08:57 |
| JBauer | connect | 08:57 |
| |ns|nR8 | thats not a valid ip | 08:57 |
| JBauer | 193.239.140.184 | 08:57 |
| JBauer | sorry | 08:58 |
| |ns|nR8 | ok ill try | 08:58 |
| |ns|nR8 | noop no web server running | 08:58 |
| JBauer | Ok. So i'm pretty safe | 08:58 |
| |ns|nR8 | yep id say so | 08:59 |
| |ns|nR8 | http server only shares a directory it made | 08:59 |
| |ns|nR8 | same as ftp | 08:59 |
| |ns|nR8 | and ssh needs your username and password | 08:59 |
| JBauer | i know. but ssh is dangerous | 08:59 |
| JBauer | they cand bruteforce it | 08:59 |
| |ns|nR8 | if your running ubuntu there is no root login | 09:00 |
| |ns|nR8 | so they would have to brute your username and password | 09:00 |
| |ns|nR8 | make it near impossible even with an easy password | 09:00 |
| JBauer | hmm. true.. | 09:00 |
| JBauer | another question | 09:00 |
| JBauer | i was running this ssh cause i wanted to connect from another pc to mine | 09:01 |
| JBauer | but never could | 09:01 |
| |ns|nR8 | because your modem needs port forarding set probably | 09:01 |
| |ns|nR8 | modem/router | 09:01 |
| JBauer | also, no http or ftp server. | 09:01 |
| |ns|nR8 | same | 09:01 |
| JBauer | no, beacuse on windows http and ftp works | 09:01 |
| JBauer | bunt in ubuntu, i cand connect only locally... 127.0.0.1 | 09:02 |
| virtuald | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7pkyDUX5uM | 09:27 |
| === djakl is now known as jrendil | ||
| bazhang | virtuald, dont paste here | 09:36 |
| virtuald | i have no qualms about swearing in church | 09:39 |
| bazhang | virtuald, ?? | 09:40 |
| Shambler1 | I'm using Karmic on my Asus EEE PC 1000HE. I have two sound applets now that both seem to be disconnected from the sound controls of GNOME's keyboard sound controls. Is there a way to solve this? | 09:59 |
| reto` | hmm... I've filed a bug report about a week ago and it hasn't even been noticed it seems... is that normal? | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | reto`: sometimes yes | 10:35 |
| BUGabundo | heyyy | 11:19 |
| BUGabundo | I'M BACK | 11:19 |
| BUGabundo | now doing 19 sec boot | 11:21 |
| BUGabundo | yeahhhh | 11:21 |
| Twigathy | hot | 11:24 |
| Twigathy | My boot isn't that quick, but it shuts down fast :D | 11:24 |
| BUGabundo | i still have to test hibernation | 11:24 |
| BUGabundo | and put a swap on file | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | need to find the wiki page with it again | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | lost a few things I forgot to backup :(( | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | like my cheat txt I stored on /root :((( | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | and my most recent bootcharts from /var/logs | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | other then that I seem to be OK | 11:25 |
| Twigathy | dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=2M count=someamount && mkswap /swapfile && swapon /swapfile | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | now need to restore a few things! | 11:25 |
| Twigathy | >_> | 11:25 |
| BUGabundo | 2M ? | 11:26 |
| BUGabundo | aint that a bit too much? | 11:26 |
| Twigathy | Or whatever block size you want when writing to the disk c_c | 11:26 |
| BUGabundo | I did leave a 5GiBs partion for now | 11:26 |
| BUGabundo | since cjwatson hasn't yet touched this | 11:26 |
| BUGabundo | he expects to start latter on alpha6 :( | 11:27 |
| BUGabundo | but thanks for the command Twigathy | 11:27 |
| Twigathy | hehe, np | 11:27 |
| zj3t3mju | today my scim was not start :( | 11:51 |
| zj3t3mju | echo $GTK_IM_MODULE in "" | 11:51 |
| zj3t3mju | others too | 11:51 |
| zj3t3mju | :-/ | 11:51 |
| BUGabundo | humm what? gtk broke? | 11:53 |
| zj3t3mju | :-/ | 11:54 |
| Guest64688 | does anyone know any new features in karmic desktop ? | 12:16 |
| BUGabundo | Gueu can read the alpah 2 release notes | 12:18 |
| Guest64688 | is there a link ? | 12:18 |
| BUGabundo | getting it now Guest64688 | 12:22 |
| Guest64688 | ok cheers :) | 12:22 |
| BUGabundo | mysystem is a bit slow | 12:22 |
| BUGabundo | due to beiung restoring a 80GiB mailbox backup | 12:22 |
| Guest64688 | oh right, haha yeah thatd slow most things down | 12:23 |
| BUGabundo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview | 12:23 |
| Guest64688 | cool cheers | 12:23 |
| BUGabundo | http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha2 | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:31 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as Fluffles | ||
| BUGabundo | anyone seeing two volume applets? | 14:35 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: Yes, I have two. | 14:36 |
| BUGabundo | drs305: one is the new one, and the other the jaunty? | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | where one is vertical and one horizontal? | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | and with a fresh install I also lost the volume levers control I had | 14:38 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: Yes - one is in the notification area and the other at the far right of the panel. | 14:39 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 14:39 |
| BUGabundo | very strange | 14:39 |
| BUGabundo | though it was configuration issue but I have it too on a fresh install | 14:40 |
| robin0800 | BUGabundo, you can remove one | 14:40 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: I saved the panel settings and it looks like one is /usr/share/applications/gnome-settings-sound and the other /usr/share/applications/gnome-sound-recorder | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo | robin0800: I can only remove old one, and I like that one | 14:40 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: Yes, the one you can't remove is probably in the notification area. | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo | right | 14:41 |
| drs305 | I take it back about sound.recorder. That is another applet I have on my panel. | 14:42 |
| drs305 | The one you can remove it the volume applet. | 14:43 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 14:43 |
| BUGabundo | do you guys feel that fusion-icon start the WM it had stored instead keeping the one already running is a bug? or a feature? | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | mine had metacity so it replaced my compiz :( | 14:46 |
| tgpraveen1 | anyone here | 15:11 |
| rski | no | 15:11 |
| tgpraveen1 | knows what is console kit? | 15:11 |
| arand | tgpraveen1: barely. | 15:11 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> what does the alert volume do?[from volume control] it is greyed out. | 15:11 |
| tgpraveen1 | arand: atleast tell me what u know. what does it do? | 15:11 |
| tgpraveen1 | or any helful link it seems i cant google properly | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo | mac_v: alert? | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo | where are you seeing that? | 15:12 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen we are all at the beach | 15:12 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> volume applet> volume control | 15:12 |
| BUGabundo | all but me, I'll be buying snacks and free beer | 15:12 |
| rski | tgpraveen1: http://tinyurl.com/lujxjw | 15:12 |
| arand | tgpraveen1: Oh, barely as in barely here, I know nothing about consolekit, unfortunately. | 15:12 |
| BUGabundo | mac_v: aahhhhh it's the small beeper noise for errors or user attention call | 15:13 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo: why is it greyed out? is it still not implemented? | 15:13 |
| BUGabundo | mac_v: d'oh. have you set a Sound Theme? | 15:14 |
| * BUGabundo wants the old Levels Volume back!! | 15:14 | |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> even if i set any sound theme/leave it alone it is still greyed out | 15:15 |
| BUGabundo | WFM mac_v | 15:15 |
| robin0800 | BUGabundo, this one works much better for me if i use rhythmbox it tracks the two volumes | 15:16 |
| mac_v | ;p | 15:16 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | I use pavucontrol for FULL control | 15:17 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> is it because i have the second volume applet? the last update did that.. how do i removed the extra volume applet | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | when ever it doesn't go crazy and presents me with 140% volume | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | mac_v: I've had it since for ever | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | even before alpha 2 I think | 15:18 |
| tgpraveen1 | !gnome-phone-manager | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 15:18 |
| tgpraveen1 | what am i doing wrong here? | 15:19 |
| BUGabundo | ohhhh Compiz Snow is SOOO much cooler then Water !!! | 15:19 |
| mac_v | i hadnt noticed it before, only yesterday , i had a second volume applet, so was looking around... how do i remove the second applet? it doesn have options | 15:19 |
| BUGabundo | !info gnome-phone-manager | 15:19 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: AFAIK it doesn't work with blueman ! | 15:19 |
| BUGabundo | I need to file a bug on it , now that you mention it | 15:20 |
| ubottu | gnome-phone-manager (source: gnome-phone-manager): control aspects of your mobile phone from your GNOME 2 desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (karmic), package size 161 kB, installed size 1024 kB | 15:20 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo>^ & also ... do you know any man pages for the latest gdm? | 15:20 |
| robin0800 | mac_v, you can't only thr first one | 15:20 |
| tgpraveen1 | BUGabundo: right now which is the default bluetooth stack software?blueman or gnome-bluetooth? | 15:21 |
| tgpraveen1 | in karmic? | 15:21 |
| mac_v | robin0800> so , i'm stuck with two applets. :( its just i'm not able to test the alert volume... well i guess i'll wait for it to be fixed | 15:21 |
| * BUGabundo tries to remember where to put 64bits flash .so :\ | 15:22 | |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: _right now_ is very volatile, but asac is inclined to go with blueman | 15:22 |
| tgpraveen1 | is there any other distro using blueman? | 15:23 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 15:23 |
| tgpraveen1 | BUGabundo: also right now in daily cds which is being put by default? blueman? | 15:23 |
| BUGabundo | but from my tests, its much better and more funcional | 15:23 |
| BUGabundo | plus a better responsive team upstream | 15:23 |
| BUGabundo | let me check | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | this system was isntalled ysterdaty | 15:24 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> any man pages for the latest gdm? | 15:24 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: I did an install last night. Went to this site in FF 3.5 and it asked if I wanted to install Adobe Flash for me automatically (cool !): http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | err | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | nor blueman, nor gnome-bluetooth | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | mac_v: no idea | 15:24 |
| tgpraveen1 | :-D | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | drs305: I want the 64 alpha | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | not thte 32 or 64 wrapper | 15:25 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: This was the first time it's ever asked me in 64 bit. | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: I know I have BT on.... let me check better | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | drs305: always did for me | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | but I ussually go with the native one! | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | much better perf | 15:26 |
| drs305 | Darn, thought it was new and put on 10 Alpha. | 15:26 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: bluez-gnome | 15:26 |
| tgpraveen1 | BUGabundo: isnt that the one in jaunty? | 15:27 |
| tgpraveen1 | it was super terrible | 15:27 |
| * BUGabundo installing blueman | 15:27 | |
| tgpraveen1 | aargh i dont use my bt usb device anymore as it never works with that | 15:27 |
| drs305 | Anyway, here is where I used to put 10 Alpha: ~/.mozilla/plugins/ /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins I don't know if it's the same for Karmic. | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: no idea! it was so long ago, and soooo buggy | 15:27 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: with blueman I can sync files and even use my phone as a modem | 15:28 |
| BUGabundo | that freak HUGE work I can't spell | 15:28 |
| BUGabundo | now I need to test BT and audio | 15:28 |
| mac_v | i heard some problems due to ubuntuone package, is responsible for nautilus crashes? | 15:28 |
| BUGabundo | Daniel said PA would have support for it in KK | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins thanks | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | done | 15:29 |
| drs305 | Working? | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | now I realize I forgot nautilyus tools | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | stupid me did not backup my installed apps !:( | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | mac_v: U1 Qs go to #ubuntuone | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | doest seem to be starting for me | 15:30 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> i actually dont have ubuntuone account, but the package is installed :( | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:32 |
| patapouf | does anyone have issue with avant window navigator ? On my side, I experience many unstable behaviour starting with the cpu usage and the task list that never appear | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | Processing triggers for menu ... | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | A package failed to install. Trying to recover: | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | this is not going to end good :( | 15:34 |
| mac_v | BUGabundo> ah... i thought it was you who mentioned it... but only now i realized it was from #ubuntu-desktop had to check logs... the client causes the nautlius crash when selecting computer | 15:34 |
| BUGabundo | patapouf: use gnome Do (with docky) instead | 15:34 |
| BUGabundo | and yeah there's a bug on AWN already | 15:34 |
| drs305 | BUGabundo: I've been checking the libflashplayer.so the Adobe site automatically installed (It actually installed flashplugin-installer). It appears it put the 10 Alpha flash into my system. | 15:34 |
| patapouf | BUGabundo: Well I've try Do, and love it, but it miss one of the big feature I need : drag-n-drop | 15:34 |
| BUGabundo | patapouf: ah? dnd? never even used it | 15:35 |
| BUGabundo | drs305: AFAIK it puts 32bits with a wrapper, unless it changed on KK | 15:35 |
| patapouf | BUGabundo: wep, I dnd thing between application. The default WindowsList applet in panel do so, but Gnome-Do don't | 15:36 |
| BUGabundo | E: flashplugin-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 15:37 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOL | 15:37 |
| BUGabundo | I don't even have it! darn flash tries to get into my system | 15:37 |
| BUGabundo | patapouf: I think you are confusing things | 15:38 |
| BUGabundo | Do is _just_ a luncher | 15:38 |
| patapouf | BUGabundo: exact, and it's the problem. | 15:38 |
| BUGabundo | so what does AWN more? | 15:40 |
| * BUGabundo now wishes gnome devs would implement drag, alt+tab, drop!!!! | 15:40 | |
| patapouf | BUGabundo: It's also support all the feature of a Windows List | 15:40 |
| BUGabundo | never tried it, or even know what that means :) | 15:41 |
| drs305 | The flashplugin-installer the Adobe site put on my machine installed a libflashplayer.so that is exactly identical in bytes to the 10 Alpha one. | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo | strange | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo | maybe it changed ? | 15:41 |
| tgpraveen1 | BUGabundo: mind giving me the link to nm 0.8 ppa again? | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo | grrr let me go road kill asac... I can't remove flashplugin-installer | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: you keep losing it!! | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/trunk/ubuntu karmic main | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: remember to also install modem manager if you use 3G | 15:43 |
| tgpraveen1 | yeah i thought i wont use it but these days nm 0.7 series is giving me too many troubles ;-) | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo | is it? | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | shouldn't | 15:44 |
| tgpraveen1 | BUGabundo: do u have the launchpad link for that ppa. i want to use it on jaunty | 15:45 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/221207/ | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | tgpraveen1: you can't! | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | its failing to build | 15:46 |
| tgpraveen1 | oh noes :-( | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | https://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/trunk | 15:47 |
| BUGabundo | https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/trunk/+build/1119304 | 15:47 |
| BUGabundo | OMG only now i found out about Compiz Tile plugin! been missing it for soooo long! | 16:08 |
| BUGabundo | so what's everyone favorite windows swicher? | 16:11 |
| Hobbsee | compiz tile? | 16:11 |
| BUGabundo | I have shift swicher on super+alt | 16:11 |
| Hobbsee | oh, that one, right | 16:11 |
| BUGabundo | but want one for alt+tab | 16:11 |
| BUGabundo | Hobbsee: yeah tile!! SO good | 16:11 |
| BUGabundo | missed that for..., well for ever | 16:11 |
| BUGabundo | Hobbsee: using OP? | 16:12 |
| BUGabundo | I found it strange to see you up high. and now I noticed the star ehhe | 16:12 |
| Hobbsee | OP? | 16:12 |
| Hobbsee | oh | 16:12 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 16:13 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i booted soeone out a few days ago | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | you forgot? | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | ehehhh | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | days? | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 16:13 |
| Hobbsee | mmy keyboads' broken, so i've been avoiding typing for a few weeks | 16:13 |
| Hobbsee | new keyboard should be here in a few days | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | strange that I looked as if you were invisilbe or soemthing | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | I could see you on my top user list, but not the OP symbol | 16:13 |
| Hobbsee | stange | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | only when you talked it changed | 16:13 |
| BUGabundo | that's when I noticed you were set as OP | 16:14 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 16:14 |
| Hobbsee | i went to -devel to look at booting the guy fo thee too | 16:15 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 16:15 |
| BUGabundo | I bet you don't have 'e's on the keyb | 16:15 |
| Hobbsee | i do have e's | 16:15 |
| BUGabundo | err | 16:15 |
| BUGabundo | I meant 'r' | 16:15 |
| BUGabundo | typo | 16:15 |
| Hobbsee | just not m, r, c, and a few othes ae soewaht tepraental | 16:15 |
| bazhang | r's and m's :) | 16:15 |
| Hobbsee | ade the istake of cleaning it otu... :( | 16:16 |
| BUGabundo | AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | 16:16 |
| bazhang | no dangerous command then :) | 16:16 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 16:16 |
| BUGabundo | its the funniest thing to read :)) | 16:16 |
| BUGabundo | I'm almost crying | 16:16 |
| BUGabundo | bazhang: Hobbsee can't rm now | 16:16 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, but she can tab-complete, beware :) | 16:16 |
| Hobbsee | BUGabundo: ctrl+r is the biggest poblem, actually | 16:16 |
| chrisccoulson | Hobbsee - to make it even more confusing, you should also try changing your keyboard layout to french or something ;) | 16:16 |
| * Hobbsee should really rebind that | 16:17 | |
| Hobbsee | chrisccoulson: oh, erk! :) | 16:17 |
| Hobbsee | chrisccoulson: o just dvorak | 16:17 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:17 |
| BUGabundo | hey | 16:17 |
| BUGabundo | one R in there | 16:17 |
| * BUGabundo blames spell chekker | 16:17 | |
| BUGabundo | hey Le-Chuck_ITA | 16:17 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hi there! | 16:18 |
| Hobbsee | heya! | 16:18 |
| BUGabundo | but my question remains | 16:18 |
| BUGabundo | what's everyone favorite windows swicher? | 16:18 |
| BUGabundo | I have shift swicher on super+alt, but want one for alt+tab | 16:18 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I have my own ssh private key which was generated a long time ago. Now sourceforge says it removed compromised keys (do you remember the debian ssh accident?) but how do I tell if my key is compromised? | 16:19 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I mean I don't want to re-upload it in that case | 16:19 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | BUGabundo: window switcher hummm | 16:20 |
| Hobbsee | Le-Chuck_ITA: thee's a tool for it | 16:20 |
| Hobbsee | is it dsa or rsa? | 16:20 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | is this -offtopic or +1 :) Mine in the end is the default one, even if the coverflow-alike is pretty | 16:20 |
| BUGabundo | Hobbsee: wasn't it remobed in karmic? | 16:20 |
| BUGabundo | 'cause it didn't make any more use? | 16:20 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: rsa | 16:20 |
| BUGabundo | openssl-blacklist | 16:21 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: you are very inside kubuntu if I recall correctly then I have a quick question | 16:21 |
| BUGabundo | !info openssl-blacklist | 16:21 |
| ubottu | openssl-blacklist (source: openssl-blacklist): list of blacklisted OpenSSL RSA keys. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5-2 (karmic), package size 6189 kB, installed size 12240 kB | 16:22 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: I see on a bug report that "The current version of kile and the version of okular from kde 4.3 beta2 can work together using forwardDVI." | 16:22 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: at this point does anybody know if that version of okular is going to be in karmic? | 16:22 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | BUGabundo: but do you mean that I should see if MY OWN key is in that list? I mean my id_rsa.pub which is in my ~/.ssh | 16:23 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | So the bug was so grave that keys where all similar? | 16:23 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: AFAIK that tool provides ways to check if the key is week | 16:24 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | aha ok | 16:24 |
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| Hobbsee | BUGabundo: i'm not sue. | 16:33 |
| Hobbsee | Le-Chuck_ITA: not since pre-gutsy, i'm afraid | 16:33 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | gutsy=? | 16:34 |
| Hobbsee | gutsy, as in, that thing that got EOL'd a while ago. | 16:34 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: aaah you're not inside kubuntu :) I thought gutsy had something to do with okular from kde 4.3 :) | 16:35 |
| Hobbsee | Le-Chuck_ITA: i'd just install the jaunty vesion of openssl-blacklist | 16:35 |
| Hobbsee | corect :) | 16:35 |
| Hobbsee | Le-Chuck_ITA: it'll be whatever ships with the kde that they go with | 16:35 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: I did install it but then... there is a openssl-vulnkey script but whatever id_rsa* file I pass to it, it complains it's not ok | 16:36 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | sorry I mean it complains it's not in the right format | 16:36 |
| Hobbsee | Le-Chuck_ITA: strange. it woked back when i tied it | 16:37 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hobbsee: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/221233/ | 16:38 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | ah but that's an error in python it seems | 16:39 |
| * Hobbsee wondesr if that happens when you feed it a single file | 16:39 | |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I fear my key was compromised in any case since sf.net removed it | 16:39 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | but should I pass it the .pub or the id_rsa file? | 16:40 |
| Hobbsee | does --help indicate? | 16:40 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | no but it seems that it's the private one | 16:40 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | no ok I am bullsh****** | 16:41 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I have no idea | 16:41 |
| ulysses__ | hello, there isn't xorg.conf in my karmic koala, what can i do? | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | what problem are you having? | 16:42 |
| ulysses__ | i want to install nvidia driver, and make better refresh rate with editing xorg.conf | 16:43 |
| ripps | How do I create a guest session in Karmic | 16:44 |
| chrisccoulson | ulysses - you shouldn't need a xorg.conf for any of that AFAIK. what refresh rate do you get? | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | ripps - the guest-session stuff has not been ported to the new GDM yet | 16:46 |
| ulysses__ | 50 Hz, its bad | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | is it really 50Hz? what tells you it's 50Hz? | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | because the NVIDIA driver has a bug which exposes around 50Hz in the display capplet, when it is much higher | 16:47 |
| ulysses__ | it's not installed yet | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | right | 16:47 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: don't think we can :( | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | but when it is installed, you should not have to fiddle around | 16:47 |
| ulysses__ | so, i found nvidia-glx-180 package, install, and try | 16:48 |
| BUGabundo | lolol | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | my nvidia setting just blew when I pressed : "save to xorg.conf" | 16:51 |
| Twigathy | I don't think the 'save to xorg.conf' has ever worked for me | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | it did for me on JJ | 16:54 |
| ulysses__ | i'va installed nvidia-glx-180, then run `sudo nvidia-xconfig`, now i edit my xorg.conf, the horizsync and vertrefresh is bad | 16:54 |
| ulysses__ | it's done! | 16:58 |
| torkiano | anyone using devhelp in karmic? Seems that It doesn't search the documentation in the correct path | 16:59 |
| zniavre_ | Twigathy> I don't think the 'save to xorg.conf' has ever worked for me > you should laund nvidia-settings with gksudo to save file | 17:03 |
| zniavre_ | lanch* | 17:03 |
| zniavre_ | launch** sorry | 17:03 |
| Twigathy | ah yes, that'd probably help... permissionsfail :) | 17:04 |
| torkiano | I think the problem is in the last character: «/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/gtk/gtk-General.html#gtk-get-option-group» | 17:05 |
| ripps | What's holding back ubuntu-minimal? | 17:28 |
| robin0800 | ripps, a small elastic band | 17:29 |
| ripps | -_- | 17:30 |
| BUGabundo | :)))) | 17:33 |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, did you run it as root? | 17:46 |
| cwillu | I think it crashes like that if it can't write to the file | 17:46 |
| BUGabundo | hey cwillu | 17:48 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: I opened it from the menu | 17:48 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: if it crahes it's a bug :) | 17:48 |
| cwillu | true enough | 17:49 |
| cwillu | sudo touch /tmp/xorg.conf, and then tell nvidia-settings to write to that file, I bet it crashes too | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | yeah seems it won't ask for GKSU | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | well in true, it doesn't need sudo for screen manipulation | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | its done on userspace | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/221279/ | 17:53 |
| BUGabundo | exaile alpha crash | 17:53 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/exaile/+bug/401136 | 17:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 401136 in exaile "AttributeError: type object 'EventsCodes' has no attribute 'IN_MOVED_TO'" [Undecided,New] | 17:58 |
| BUGabundo | humm so we are finally mygrating logs? | 18:01 |
| BUGabundo | that's what's holding minimal | 18:01 |
| BUGabundo | guud | 18:01 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: ^^^^^^^ | 18:01 |
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| Sarvatt | billybigrigger: webcams finally fixed here, how about you? | 18:36 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: not here | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo | let me check if there's a new update on the driver | 18:43 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, dunno haven't looked | 18:50 |
| billybigrigger | as of what rc3? | 18:50 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, negative | 18:50 |
| billybigrigger | cheese and camorama don't work | 18:50 |
| billybigrigger | gspca hasn't been update in the kernel for weeks | 18:52 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, so it must be something else | 18:52 |
| Sarvatt | it was a ubuntu package that got updated and fixed my problem | 18:55 |
| Sarvatt | wasnt working on the same kernel before | 18:55 |
| billybigrigger | hmm | 18:55 |
| billybigrigger | which package do you know? | 18:55 |
| Sarvatt | nope | 18:55 |
| billybigrigger | hmmm | 18:55 |
| Sarvatt | something in the past 5 days | 18:55 |
| Sarvatt | .. and now its not working again, it worked earlier though lol | 19:01 |
| Sarvatt | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/221309/ | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: it was a fluke :) | 19:03 |
| DanaG | argh, when the heck will Xorg be able to handle keycodes > 255? | 19:25 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 19:27 |
| yofel | hi folks | 19:33 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227 | 19:36 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 11227 in Input/Core "Allow > 255 keycodes" [Enhancement,New] | 19:36 |
| DanaG | heh, read it and look at the dates. =þ | 19:36 |
| BUGabundo | hey yofel | 19:37 |
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| DanaG | Something I've noticed with compiz: it can't handle raw-keycode bindings that Metacity can handle. | 19:50 |
| DanaG | For example, I have a key 0xc9, but compiz doesn't run the command I set it to run. | 19:50 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, and now that HAL is not handling keymaps... how do you make Xorg reload the keymaps (from udev) without restarting Xorg? | 19:52 |
| Sarvatt | clearly complaining about it in ubuntu+1 every day is how to get it fixed :D | 19:53 |
| Sarvatt | oh and #radeon too, they work with xinput | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: ehehe | 19:55 |
| YaManicKill | i was installing updates, and lost power, and now my karmic install won't boot. i tried an older kernel, but its not doing it anyways, so its not the kernel. and recovery mode wont do anything. | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | YaManicKill: livecd/usb, chroot inside and $ dpkg --configure -a | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | try booting a livecd, chroot into your old partition and dpkg-reconfigure -a | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | oh and fsck before, of course | 19:58 |
| Sarvatt | what he said :D | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: ahahahahahahahaahah | 19:58 |
| DanaG | dpkg --configure -a | 19:58 |
| DanaG | not reconfigure. | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | my way or the hi way! | 19:59 |
| YaManicKill | ok, i've downloaded the live cd...cause i was sure i could do something with that | 19:59 |
| YaManicKill | but how do i chroot into it? | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: I've done a few --reconfigures too! | 19:59 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, you'll need to mount -o bind /sys /media/karmic-root/sys | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | it just takes me like 4h to finishs IF I get no errors | 19:59 |
| DanaG | or wherever it's mounted. | 19:59 |
| DanaG | same for /proc and /dev. | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo | YaManicKill: $ mkdir /tmp/disk; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/disk ; sudo chroot /tmp/disk | 20:00 |
| YaManicKill | ok...lemme load up the disk | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: what for? / should be enough | 20:00 |
| YaManicKill | 2 secs while i get unetbootin running | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | err | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | unet??? why? | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | now livecd/usb at hand ? | 20:01 |
| DanaG | binding the things makes it a more complete chrooted environment. | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | naaa | 20:02 |
| YaManicKill | wait...yeah...i do have a live usb...but for some reason i was assuming i'd have to use a 64-bit version. would i? if the installed version was 64-bit? | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | he just needs and fsck | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | should do it | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | YaManicKill: you can't cross chroot | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | either go 64 on 64 or 32 on 32 | 20:03 |
| YaManicKill | ok...so i do need to load up unet then | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | or it won't work, and will spill the worse error I've ever seen | 20:03 |
| DanaG | Not quite right... you can chroot from 64 CD into 32, but not vice versa. | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | YaManicKill: usb-creator ??? | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | its faster | 20:03 |
| YaManicKill | really? | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: it has failed me before | 20:03 |
| YaManicKill | is it in 9.04? | 20:03 |
| DanaG | "Exec format error." | 20:04 |
| DanaG | That's what you get if you try to go 32 -> 64. | 20:04 |
| BUGabundo | YaManicKill: yes | 20:07 |
| YaManicKill | tis going onto the stick now | 20:09 |
| YaManicKill | and then when i am chrooted into it, i can just finish the updates, ye? | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | maybe | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | you may need some hand work to get networking up | 20:10 |
| DanaG | that's what the "bind" stuff is for. | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo | ehheh | 20:10 |
| DanaG | and you'd copy /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/whatever/etc/ | 20:10 |
| DanaG | where /mnt/whatever is wherever you mounted the target. | 20:11 |
| YaManicKill | so, would it be easiest to do what DanaG said? | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo | depends | 20:11 |
| YaManicKill | on... | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo | I believe your prob is disk corruption | 20:11 |
| BUGabundo | and _maybe_ package incomplete | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | with fsck you should be able to reboot into recovery console and choose to fix packages from the recovery menu | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | and then reboot to your regular user and install the rest | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | no need to do it all over chroot | 20:13 |
| YaManicKill | ok...so i should chroot into my install, do an fsck, and then reboot into recovery to install the rest of the packages? | 20:13 |
| YaManicKill | which would mean i wouldn | 20:13 |
| YaManicKill | s/wouldn/wouldn't/ need to worry about internet connection? | 20:14 |
| DanaG | Actually, perhaps chroot and then do the dpkg --configure -a | 20:14 |
| DanaG | and then go do the recovery thing. | 20:14 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, now I remember partly what the bind was for: I seem to remember initramfs-tools, or something, needing it. | 20:15 |
| YaManicKill | man alive... | 20:15 |
| BUGabundo | no no no | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo | you do fsck before chroot... | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo | YaManicKill: can't you do fsck from the recovery console? | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo | doesn't that even boot? | 20:16 |
| YaManicKill | BUGabundo: ok...so i just fsck the disk (should i do /home as well) | 20:16 |
| YaManicKill | recovery won't boot | 20:16 |
| BUGabundo | ohh | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | yeah fsck the all disk | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | from livecd/usb without mounting anything | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | $ fsck.ext3 -vFd /dev/sda1 | 20:17 |
| YaManicKill | and then try and boot into recovery? | 20:17 |
| BUGabundo | where sda1 is your partitions | 20:17 |
| YaManicKill | what are v F and d? | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | F forces | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | d optimizes dirs | 20:18 |
| DanaG | you may have to unmount them manually, first. | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | oops | 20:18 |
| DanaG | livecd auto-mounts by default. | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | its D | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | not d | 20:18 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: no it doesn't! | 20:19 |
| YaManicKill | DanaG: no it doesnt... | 20:19 |
| BUGabundo | dinner. bbl | 20:19 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah... perhaps it just shows volumes on the desktop, and mounts them when you go to open them. | 20:19 |
| YaManicKill | lol :P | 20:21 |
| DanaG | weird... quodlibet tray icon has a solid black background. | 20:22 |
| schristie | how do you change the login screen in karmic? the normal config apps seem to be missing | 20:27 |
| schristie | is there any way to reinstall them? | 20:28 |
| schristie | penguin42, is it possible to install the rest of the config apps that used to be in jaunty? like the login screen manager? | 20:30 |
| penguin42 | I hadn't noticed it missing - let me have a look | 20:31 |
| reto` | yeah it's missing... but I don't know how to install it... | 20:31 |
| schristie | hmmm | 20:31 |
| penguin42 | hmm your right - it's gone walkies | 20:32 |
| schristie | is that just a temporary oversight, or on purpose? | 20:33 |
| YaManicKill | wonder when that happened | 20:33 |
| reto` | someone said it's on purpose when I asked... will be added later again | 20:33 |
| YaManicKill | i wonder why on earth they would do that... | 20:33 |
| yofel | schristie: there is not gdmsetup for the new gdm (yet) | 20:33 |
| * penguin42 could swear that last week there was the new gnome settings window with all the setting s on | 20:33 | |
| schristie | yofel: I don't think so. Is it supposed to have it's own package? or be included? | 20:34 |
| schristie | nvm, for some reason I thought that was a question | 20:36 |
| schristie | so is there any other way to change the login screen? | 20:37 |
| schristie | I'd prefer the normal jaunty screen to what I currently am getting | 20:37 |
| * penguin42 suspects you would have to fiddle with /etc/gdm/something | 20:37 | |
| DanaG | If you want to change the theme, and such, at the login screen, go back to the login screen... and then switch to text console (ctrl-alt-F1) to run the following command; then switch back with ctrl-alt-f7 or f9: | 20:38 |
| DanaG | DISPLAY=:0 sudo -u gdm xterm | 20:38 |
| DanaG | that'll open an xterm... where you can run gnome-appearance-properties and gconf-editor. | 20:38 |
| penguin42 | DanaG: Is that because it's actually running a session now? | 20:40 |
| DanaG | Yeah. It is its own user with its own gnome-session. | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | yeh it makes sense - there does need to be a way to frig with all it's session settings e.g. screen settings etc as well | 20:42 |
| schristie | DanaG, why can't I just run gconf-editor at a normal terminal? | 20:43 |
| schristie | and supposing I do run it, how do I change the login screen ;) | 20:43 |
| penguin42 | schristie: Because the login screen now runs with it's own session - so you need to change it's setting snot yours | 20:44 |
| DanaG | And gconf-editor won't work if that user is not active. | 20:44 |
| schristie | ok | 20:44 |
| DanaG | Gets failure to connect to gconf daemon, or something. | 20:44 |
| schristie | so, supposing I run gconf-editor during the login screen session, how would I change the screen back to jaunty's? | 20:45 |
| penguin42 | DanaG: Is it actually a normal user? Can you start another session in the way you do for doing sabayon editing? | 20:45 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I'm not sure. By default, gdm's shell is /bin/false | 20:45 |
| DanaG | or /bin/true | 20:45 |
| DanaG | I don't remember which. | 20:45 |
| penguin42 | false | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | erk sabayon-admin's is actually bash | 20:46 |
| schristie | I thought I had jaunty's login screen the first time I booted, but since then it's been something simpler | 20:49 |
| schristie | maybe it got upgraded away ;) | 20:50 |
| penguin42 | I do like the new login screen - I like the brown rays background - it didn't seem to react to hitting return to select my user though today | 20:51 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, and you can change the wallpaper, too. | 20:51 |
| schristie | penguin42, I don't think I have the same one you have | 20:52 |
| penguin42 | It feels like it's the same one that's in Fedora? | 20:53 |
| schristie | dontzap doesn't seem to be working for me | 20:54 |
| schristie | I wouldn't know, I haven't seen fedoras login page | 20:54 |
| DanaG | Yup, it's the same GDM. | 20:54 |
| DanaG | They just have a different default theme. | 20:55 |
| schristie | is it possible to reenable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace for karmic? | 20:55 |
| DanaG | It's under keyboard-preferences, oddly enough. | 20:55 |
| DanaG | It's become a "keyboard layout option" | 20:55 |
| penguin42 | yeh - I just filed a gnome bug for the fact that cursor flashing in entry boxes is under there | 20:55 |
| schristie | thanks | 20:56 |
| slow_ | did anyone else lose the ability to set emblems in nautilus? | 20:57 |
| billybigrigger | afternoon all | 21:00 |
| BUGabundo | hey billybigrigger | 21:00 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, ola | 21:00 |
| yofel | hi billybigrigger | 21:00 |
| BUGabundo | olá | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | now try to do that on your keyboard aaha | 21:01 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 21:01 |
| billybigrigger | if i knew the ascii character i could :P | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | I just press one key | 21:03 |
| reto` | ç | 21:04 |
| BUGabundo | €ł¶ŧ←↓→øø | 21:04 |
| SKB2 | ąčęįėęėį | 21:04 |
| BUGabundo | æßðđŋħjĸł | 21:04 |
| BUGabundo | «»¢“”nµ | 21:04 |
| yofel | are you guys in a non-ascii hype? =þ | 21:05 |
| itswhatev | unicode :O | 21:06 |
| BUGabundo | alt+gr | 21:06 |
| hggdh | ce çaudade matace, morto já esteria | 21:07 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: saudade!! | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | and Mata-se | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | or better | 21:08 |
| BUGabundo | matasse | 21:08 |
| hggdh | :-) saw that pearl in a fisherman's boat, long time ago. This was the *best* example of badly-written Portuguese I have ever been able to find | 21:08 |
| hggdh | and it is not 'ce', but 'se' | 21:09 |
| BUGabundo | eheheheh | 21:10 |
| hggdh | took me a while to understand what was written... | 21:11 |
| BUGabundo | eheheheheheh | 21:11 |
| DanaG | ↙←↖↑↗→↘↓↙ | 21:14 |
| DanaG | £€€T. | 21:14 |
| DanaG | U.S. International (AltGr Deadkeys). | 21:14 |
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| DanaG | !find compass | 21:25 |
| ubottu | File compass found in abuse-frabs, abuse-lib, awstats, cameleon-doc, cyphesis-cpp (and 32 others) | 21:25 |
| DanaG | ah, xscreensaver-data-extra. | 21:26 |
| schristie | do any of you know if karmic will get updated poulsbo graphics drivers? | 22:01 |
| schristie | or at least the same ones available from ubuntu-mobile for jaunty? | 22:01 |
| reto` | hmm... my display is dimmed out even when I set adjust the power settings not to put it to sleep... is there another place to set it? | 22:34 |
| yofel | reto`: the default screensaver is a black screen | 22:36 |
| scaine | reto' there's some settings in gconf-editor worth checking out (apps/gnome-power) | 22:43 |
| === Eq|laptop is now known as EqUaTe | ||
| === zorael_ is now known as Zorael | ||
| reto` | yofel: oh yes... it was the screensaver :) thanks | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | finally got VLC to work ok with PulseAudio | 23:00 |
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