[00:54] <sebsebseb> ok you guys might want to be aware of this
[00:55] <sebsebseb> #ubuntu-lovers  which they may be changing to ##ubuntu-lovers soon, someone advertised it a little while ago in #ubuntu
[00:56] <sebsebseb> told the person not to channel advertise in there,  and  joined the channel to suggest they changed to ##   and  I say something more about channel advertising, and then get booted,  so probably some kids running it or something
[01:04] <sebsebseb> oh well kicked  after re joining and not very nice kick messages
[01:14] <sebsebseb> it's archlinux trolls,  and I can pastebin stuff from the two channels if anyone wants it,  but your all away right now so hmm
[01:32] <sebsebseb> That's not a good thing when all the ops are away, because if people troll the channels now,  things can get pretty bad,  I have seen it before.
[01:41] <elky> sebsebseb, ops are around, they're just not participating in a discussion with you. i'm also certain that youve been asked many times before to stop bossing people around.
[01:44] <elky> bruenig, is there something i can help you with?
[01:45] <Pici> webpigeon: How can we help you?
[01:46] <sebsebseb> [01:07] <Harry_Mudd> all archusers get ops
[01:46] <sebsebseb> [01:07] <ben_m> We should advertise this and turn it into the ultimate troll channel
[01:46] <sebsebseb> two snippets,  could do the lot, but no one seems to care
[01:46] <elky> sebsebseb, stop.
[01:46] <webpigeon> Pici, sorry, a friend asked me when help with something , and I needed to check the channel mode to answer him :)
[01:47] <bruenig> just hanging out
[01:47] <elky> bruenig, this isnt a channel to just hang out in.
[01:47] <bruenig> oh
[01:47] <bruenig> um
[01:47] <bruenig> so how you guys doing
[01:47] <webpigeon> Pici, anyway, i'll be off now :) o/
[01:47] <sebsebseb> I was just trying to help,  anyway  I am about to leave here
[01:48] <elky> sebsebseb, helping would have been reporting without having poked the beehive with the flaming stick first.
[01:48] <sebsebseb> elky: well how could I of done that?
[01:49] <Pici> bruenig: This channel is for dealing with issues relating to the Ubuntu IRC community only, if theres nothing you have pertaining to that, we have a no idling polciy.
[01:49] <elky> come in here and said the first two lines, without going into the channel and bossing them around
[01:49] <bruenig> oh
[01:49] <bruenig> ok so someone came into #ubuntu-lovers and was messing with us, I don't know if you guys have control over that
[01:50] <elky> bruenig, there's staff and irc ops in there. they'll see the logs when they wake up
[01:50] <bruenig> hmm
[01:50] <sebsebseb> #ubuntu-lovers is unoffical isn't it?
[01:50] <bruenig> is it?
[01:50] <bruenig> I don't even know
[01:50] <elky> sebsebseb, stop interferring
[01:51] <sebsebseb> elky: I suggested they changed to  ##  I didn't boss them around, as  the whole  chat log would show
[01:51] <bruenig> oh not you sebsebseb 
[01:51] <bruenig> you were doing alright
[01:51] <elky> sebsebseb, that is precisely bossing them around and interferring.
[01:52] <sebsebseb> elky: ok  I see,  well I didn't reolize that
[01:53] <elky> sebsebseb, you've passed on information, we will handle it from here. next time come to us first.
[01:53] <Pici> sebsebseb: Thanks for reporting it though, just keep in mind the points that elky mentioned in the future.
[01:53] <bruenig> I agree with Pici and elky 
[01:54] <sebsebseb> elky: ok
[01:54] <elky> sebsebseb, bye
[01:55] <sebsebseb> yep bye
[01:56] <elky> bruenig, why are you here?
[01:57] <bruenig> what?
[01:58] <elky> you've come here to complain about the #ubuntu-lovers channel being a troll channel?
[01:58] <bruenig> oh
[01:58] <bruenig> no
[01:58] <bruenig> so someone told me PriceChild was doing something or other
[01:58] <bruenig> I didn't realy know what was going on
[01:59] <elky> so why were you in the channel that sebsebseb reported?
[01:59] <bruenig> I am in the ## one
[02:00] <bruenig> it is registered and such, someone there was talking about #ubuntu-lovers, thought you guys might know
[02:00] <bruenig> wanted to see what was going on by checking out the discussion you see
[02:00] <elky> you are aware that you would need to get trademark approval to use the name of ubuntu, right?
[02:01] <bruenig> I didn't register that channel
[02:01] <elky> ok, so you have no other business here?
[02:01] <bruenig> um
[02:01] <Pricey> bruenig: Thankyou for making us aware of that channel. I'm unsure what you expect us to do about it. Have a good day.
[02:01] <bruenig> would you need approval for unofficial?
[02:02] <bruenig> I mean ## is unofficial namespace isn't it?
[02:02] <bruenig> like ##windows
[02:02] <bruenig> ?
[02:02] <Pricey> bruenig: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/ChannelNaming
[02:02] <elky> bruenig, trademark is above channel naming policies. Canonical gets to choose how its trademark is used.
[02:03] <bruenig> hmm
[02:03] <bruenig> I am not so sure this qualifies, not like they are using logos or anything. It is clearly a community of ubuntu lovers. They don't control anyone who uses the word ubuntu. I mean what if a news story talked about ubuntu. They wouldn't be infringing.
[02:04] <elky> it's not clearly, actually. it appears to be a channel of archlinux people who are going to troll ubuntu channels.
[02:05] <bruenig> its a weird channel, not sure what is going on
[02:06] <elky> well if you have no further business here, we ask that you respect our no-idling policy
[02:08] <bruenig> hmm
[02:08] <bruenig> you guys are secretive!
[02:08] <bruenig> always idling in other channels logging, but not allowed here it seems
[02:08] <Pici> Logs of this channel, oh nevermind.
[02:10] <nalioth> *sigh*
[02:46] <elky> oh, and bilbo sobered up...
 Oh, elky.....I'm sober now.  Here is a nice unique way to express myself.  Go FUCK your self, and keep up the good work....inbreeding does wonders for your children.  Tell your sister / wife I said hi.
[02:46] <Pici> Hrm. The same guy who is advertizing for ##ubuntu-lovers is the fellow who had joined the bot to #ubuntu earlier
[02:46] <elky> so surprising.
[02:47] <Amaranth> hmm
[02:47] <Amaranth> ##ubuntu-lovers is invite only
[02:47] <Pici> Its also owned by staff now.
[02:47] <elky> yes, well it became obvious we were willing to invade
[02:47] <Amaranth> did it get shut down? freenode-staff seems to be the owner
[02:51] <Amaranth> why advertise and make it invite only at the same time?
[02:51] <Amaranth> heh, now it forwards to ##unavailable
[02:53] <[jesus]abyrne55> elky>
[02:53] <[jesus]abyrne55> elky?
[02:53] <elky> [jesus]abyrne55, hi. so could you explain why you were creating an ubuntu channel?
[02:53] <[jesus]abyrne55> I just wanted to learn about irc
[02:53] <[jesus]abyrne55> so i thought i could learn by experience
[02:54] <elky> and this is also the reason you were joining bots to our channels earlier?
[02:54] <elky> !guidelines
[02:54] <[jesus]abyrne55> I am not a spammer. I am new to IRC so iwas trying out what a bot was
[02:55] <[jesus]abyrne55> I am very sorry
[02:55] <elky> ok, since you're new, you might want to read the guidelines the bot has just listed. it'll help prevent problems in the future, ok?
[02:55] <nalioth> [jesus]abyrne55: don't lie to us
[02:55] <[jesus]abyrne55> No Problem.
[02:55] <[jesus]abyrne55> I'm not. I'm new
[02:55] <nalioth> try the other leg, [jesus]abyrne55 
[02:56] <nalioth> do not spam on freenode
[02:56] <nalioth> do not clone on freenode
[02:56] <Amaranth> So is the channel closed or did it just get locked down by the owner?
[02:56]  * Amaranth is confused at this point
[02:56] <[jesus]abyrne55> It was closed
[02:57] <[jesus]abyrne55> Listen. I am very scared
[02:57] <[jesus]abyrne55> I don't know what I'm doing
[02:57] <[jesus]abyrne55> And u probably won't see me on IRC again
[02:57] <[jesus]abyrne55> Good Bye
[02:57] <nalioth> Amaranth: ##ubuntu-lovers was inhabited by (surprisingly enough) the archlinux crew that has been trolling #ubuntu* 
[02:57] <Amaranth> So part of learning what you're doing is making a channel and inviting trolls?
[02:58] <elky> [jesus]abyrne55, did you not figure anything was wrong when people were discussing trolling channels?
[02:58] <[jesus]abyrne55> Trolling
[02:58] <elky> [01:07] <ben_m> We should advertise this and turn it into the ultimate troll channel
[02:58] <[jesus]abyrne55> OMG
[02:59] <[jesus]abyrne55> You won't see me on freenode again
[02:59] <[jesus]abyrne55> I leave w/ these words. Im not a spammer, troller, or anything nefairios. The truth is. Im 15
[03:01] <nalioth> myself and pricey have channel logs of ##ubuntu-lovers where they are quite outside the freenode network guidelines
[05:24] <nalioth> ubottu: tell doubled about guidelines
[05:24] <nalioth> ubottu: tell doubled about coc
[08:52] <Slart> can someone please have a word with "a" in #ubuntu... he seems to think that dualboot linux and windows can break the nic in windows
[09:59] <phix> any way
[11:44] <Mamarok> phix: can we help you?
[11:47] <Mamarok> Guest15064: can we help you?
[11:47] <Mamarok> !idle | phix, Guest15064 
[11:50] <elky> Guest15064, is stew, he can stay.
[11:51] <Gary> did stew fail? :p
[11:52] <elky> he did.
[11:55] <Mamarok> right, saw that afterwards :)
[11:55] <Mamarok> sorry, Guest15064
[11:55] <Gary> kick him anyways
[11:55] <Mamarok> phix?
[12:16] <jussi01> hrm, tomorrow to friday Im away on a boating trip, if I dont come back you know Ive drowned. :P
[12:19] <elky> you'd damned well better make your back-ness known after that
[12:23] <jussi01> hehe
[12:50] <Gary> jussi01: don't do a gary
[12:50] <Gary> (I disappeared for a few days and the other staff were worried, called my parents and were about to call the police)
[12:52] <elky> haha
[12:54] <jussi01> Gary: thats why Im notifying people..
[12:54] <jussi01> its on my facebook also
[12:54] <Gary> oh I told everyone too, but silly richih misunderstood
[12:54] <Gary> (and I got the blame)
[12:56] <elky> haha
[13:04] <jussi01> !-paste
[16:44] <Tm_T> erm, so this u-l channel happiness is evolving, eh?
[17:18] <jrib> Tm_T: how's that?
[17:31] <prince_jammys> nick:oscarhacksordo, #ubuntu, trolling in mock spanish. "me tarzan, you jane"-style spanish. doesn't leave.
[17:31] <prince_jammys> bye
[17:33] <prince_jammys> nick:Virtus, #ubuntu. spamming the same message on purpose. bye
[17:34] <Tm_T> jrib: just did read this channels backlog
[17:35] <jrib> Tm_T: oh
[18:54] <Bodsda|away> Evening friends, I have a question: When attempting to join #ubuntu via webchat.freenode.net I am redirected to the #ubuntu-proxy-users channel where the floodbot explains that it thinks I'm trying to be anonymous and that there are better ways of doing so. I'm not trying to be anonymous, I just cant install a client on this machine. I understand that freenode has had a lot of trouble with webchat clients such as mibbit a
[18:55] <Bodsda|away> As I am using freenode's webchat and not mibbit or tor or any of the others the floodbots mentioned I wondered why the need to redirect webchat.freenode.net users? I'm just curious
[18:56] <Bodsda|away> are webchat.freenode.net'ers just as untrustworthy as the spammer webchats?
[18:59] <jussi01> Bodsda|away: As I understand it, and I may be wrong, the issue is that we havent iplemented a system for freenodes webchat yet. You can however, join #ubuntu using mibbit. 
[19:00] <jussi01> Bodsda|away: also, just FYI we discourage the use f away nicks
[19:04] <Bodsda> jussi01: thanks for the info. I may be wrong, but I believe freenode has banned the use of mibbit.
[19:06] <jussi01> Bodsda: no, freenode have restricted the use of mibbit in #freenode, not across the whole network
[19:07] <jussi01> AFAIK
[19:07] <Bodsda> jussi01: ah, I see. Cheers for the info then. I'l leave you guys in peace :)
[19:07] <jussi01> Bodsda: no probs. I hope I have been helpful. :)
[19:07] <jussi01> meh
[19:13] <nalioth> jussi01: we no longer allow mibbit to connect to the network - due to abuse
[19:14] <jussi01> nalioth: oh? ok then... :/
[19:14]  * jussi01 sighs, goes back to his hole.
[19:52] <grawity> Hi, just wanted to ask if users' bots are allowed in #ubuntu. (If not, alteregoa is one.)
[19:56] <nalioth> alteregoa isn't a bot, but a mirc client with some questionable scripts / owner
[21:50] <RichiH> is strawally messaging anyone else?
[21:50] <RichiH> i think he is trying to asl me
[21:51] <ikonia> not me
[21:53] <RichiH> rejoin
[21:53] <RichiH> it's what i did
[21:53] <RichiH> thanks to irssi failing
[21:53] <ikonia> which channel 
[22:01] <erUSUL> is this a good place to reach irc council members ?
[22:02] <ikonia> sure is
[22:02] <ikonia> or you can mail them
[22:03] <erUSUL> ikonia: just that someone registered #ubuntu-novatos
[22:03] <erUSUL> ikonia: i think that #ubuntu* namespace is somewhat reserved
[22:03] <erUSUL> See here... niko noticed it http://paste.ubuntu.com/222204/
[22:05] <ikonia> erUSUL: handy enough, that will get picked up in the back log, I'm sure one of the council members/freenode staff will note it
[22:05] <ikonia> thank you
[22:06] <erUSUL> no problem...
[22:06] <ikonia> jussi01: Pici Pricey nalioth elky ^^
[22:06] <ikonia> there we go
[22:06] <erUSUL> as m4v noted in #ubuntu-irc is a new user that just joined today to ask about linux in general in #ubuntu-es
[22:18] <jussi01> erUSUL: hi
[22:18] <erUSUL> hi
[22:19] <jussi01> you were after me?
[22:20] <erUSUL> no; just reporting the registering of #ubuntu-novatos
[22:20] <erUSUL> jussi01: read what i said to ikonia... you can check #ubuntu-irc too if you iddle there
[22:21] <jussi01> ahh, ok then. thank you. if you need the irc council in future, you can join #ubuntu-irc-council
[22:21] <jussi01> Anyway, Ill let nalioth or Pricey deal with that for now, as Im headed to bed. 
[22:21] <erUSUL> jussi01: ok; thanks
[22:22] <erUSUL> jussi01: good night then