[00:28] <FFForever> Hi
[00:28] <FFForever> how can i reencrypt a public key?
[00:31] <pmatulis> FFForever: what sort of key?
[00:32] <FFForever> rsa private key for ssh logins, sorry i meant private
[00:33] <pmatulis> FFForever: use '$ ssh-keygen -p'
[00:35] <pmatulis> FFForever: you don't actually re-encrypt.  you simply will be changing the passphrase to decrypt
[00:35] <FFForever> pmatulis, i already decrypted it
[00:36] <pmatulis> FFForever: just use the command i suggested.  see the man page if you like
[00:36] <FFForever> kk
[00:38] <jeeves> is there a way to allow access to the log files through the CLI (without using sudo) so I can access the log files with GL_Tail
[00:40] <pmatulis> jeeves: see 'man logrotate'
[00:42] <pmatulis> jeeves: you want to change the default mode of the log file in question
[00:43] <jeeves> pmatulis, ???
[00:49] <FFForever> how do i enable log rotations, i ran /etc/cron.daily/syslogd manually removed over a gig of logs...
[01:04] <pmatulis> FFForever-Away: it should run by default.  is it not sysklogd?
[01:32] <pmatulis>  /quit
[01:49] <FFForever> back sorry had to go
[02:48] <loongson_> 389-directory server is a successor to LDAP
[02:48] <loongson_> and packages are already available at REBU
[02:48] <loongson_> REVU
[02:49] <ScottK> loongson_: You'll probably do better to bring it up during the meeting on Tuesday.
[02:49] <FFForever> can i run a sharepoint server?
[02:49] <twb> FFForever: I'm not stopping you.
[02:50] <loongson_> Okay, Tuesday UTC1500?
[02:50] <loongson_> but it is midnight at my place
[02:50] <ScottK> That's the best chance for it.
[02:51] <ScottK> loongson_: Or maybe mail to ubuntu-server mailing list.
[02:51] <loongson_> That maybe a better idea............ I have lectures in the next morning
[03:13] <FFForever> whats wrong with my system? 462M	/var/log
[03:13] <FFForever> my local system only uses 45mb
[03:16] <FFForever> how can i remove old logs?
[03:17] <jmarsden> FFForever: The rm command works fine for removing log files, just like any other files...
[03:17] <FFForever>  78M -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm       78M 2009-07-18 19:17 syslog
[03:18] <jmarsden> As for why you got bigger logs on one machine than another, it could be you have different levels of logging configured on the two machines... or that one is rotating log files more often than the other...
[03:18] <jmarsden> Is there any content in the syslog file that suggests what the underlying issue is?
[03:19] <twb> FFForever: the problem is that logrotate is either not installed or not configured correctly.
[03:19] <FFForever> twb, how do i configure it correctly this is insane....
[03:19] <Dustan> Hello all, I am looking for some advice on backup solution for a ubuntu(lamp) vps I just set up. I'd like to do something that runs automatically (daily/weekly) downloads to my home computer.  I'm am pretty inexperienced but willing to get my hands dirty. What are my possible solutions?
[03:19] <FFForever> i should be using a default ubuntu server install
[03:19] <twb> FFForever: it is configured correctly by default.  Therefore something must have broken it.
[03:19] <FFForever> twb, how can i reconfigure it back to the default
[03:20] <twb> FFForever: in particular, make sure that cron and logrotate are installed, that crond is running, and that /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exists, that /etc/crontab will run-parts on cron.daily @daily, and that /etc/logrotate.conf is sensible.
[03:20] <Dustan> I've read that the sql databases can be difficult to backup?
[03:21] <FFForever> twb oddly it just installed
[03:21] <twb> Dustan: SQL isn't a kind of database.  It's an API for interacting with databases.
[03:21] <Dustan> I told you I was inexperienced lol.
[03:22] <Dustan> I am however learning at an accelerated rate!
[03:22] <Dustan> Jumping in the deep end.
[03:22] <twb> Dustan: a RDBMS such as PostgreSQL has files on disk, but these files are usually in an inconsistent state (e.g. due to buffering).  To back up such a database, you should use the database-specific "dump" functionality to extract a coherent backup.
[03:23] <twb> Dustan: you should probably ask your RDBMS vendor (e.g. #postgres) about how to do that.
[03:23] <jmarsden> Dustan: Or man mysqldump if you are using MySQL :)
[03:23] <Dustan> I was reading about that, you want to dump them, then backup the inage
[03:24] <twb> jmarsden: I don't think we should encourage people to use mysql :-(
[03:24] <jmarsden> twb: Original request was for backup of a LAMP stack, in which M usually represents MySQL...
[03:24] <Dustan> So I need to take special care to make sure I am backing up my databases properly, but what about the act of backing up and getting the stuff to my local computer?
[03:25] <twb> jmarsden: I missed that, sorry.
[03:26] <twb> Dustan: I tend to use rsnapshot for that, but I'm biased by way of working with its maintainer.
[03:26] <Dustan> I have seen a few tutorials on the subject, but was wondering what you guys though would be best in my scenario?
[03:26] <jmarsden> Dustan: There are many options, so many it is hard to know what you will prefer.  rsnapshot or rdiff-backup or one of many mamy otehr tools will do remote backups
[03:27] <twb> The overkill end of the spectrum is populated by amanda and such
[03:28] <twb> amanda scares the shit outta me
[03:29] <Dustan> I would probably put preference towards ease of use/configuration.
[03:30] <Dustan> I am running ubuntu at home too, so that should help a bit.
[03:31] <Dustan> let's say I go with rsnapshot, my vps dies, how difficult is it to restore?
[03:32] <Dustan> I get back to a fresh ubuntu install and upload my backup image, a little cli magic and im back?
[03:32] <jmarsden> Dustan: try rsnapshot as a place to start.  For the MySQL backups I put a script like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/221584/ into /etc/cron.daily/backup-mysql-database  and it does its thing, keeping 7 days worth of backup copies for me... adjust as necessary for your own needs, and make sure the file is chmod 0700 so only root can read it
[03:33] <Dustan> sorry if these are stupid questions
[03:33] <jmarsden> Dustan: Usually you would back up data and config files, not everything on the server... package management etc will mean you don't becessarily want to back up all installed programs etc etc. with rsnapshot.
[03:34] <jmarsden> Unless your home-to-VPS link is VERY fast, a full backup of a server could take a looong time...
[03:35] <Dustan> Ok, thank you for the clarification.
[03:35] <Dustan> Makes sense
[03:37] <Dustan> getting the packages back is pretty simple anyways, I got pretty efficient at it breaking stuff the first few days. I even made a script to do it all for me :)
[03:37] <jmarsden> Right, as long as you make and back up a list of what packages are installed, getting them all back after a fresh install is usually straightforward.
[03:39] <Dustan> Cool, thanks for the direction guys, I really appreciate it!!!, It's been a of of fun getting this all up and going.
[03:40] <jmarsden> No problem.  dpkg --get-selections will output a list of your packages, so you can redirect that to a file and then back that file up...
[04:01] <MrGlass> hi
[04:02] <MrGlass> i am having trouble install APC (for php5) and xsl
[04:11] <jmarsden> MrGlass: sudo apt-get install php-apc       # should install APC just fine...
[04:11] <jmarsden> In other words, it should install just like all other packages are installed.
[04:12] <MrGlass> right
[04:12] <MrGlass> well, actually, the guides i found online said to use pecl
[04:12] <MrGlass> so i did
[04:13] <MrGlass> but aparently i was missing apache2-dev
[04:13] <MrGlass> so it wouldnt install
[04:13] <MrGlass> still no idea on xsl though
[04:13] <jmarsden> Undo that and use the packaged version.  When it exists, always use the packaged version.
[04:13] <jmarsden> sudo apt-get install php5-xsl     shoudl handle that one...
[04:13] <jmarsden> as before... they install just like all other packages...
[04:14] <MrGlass> yay
[04:14] <MrGlass> thanks jmarsden
[04:14] <MrGlass> yeah, dunno y google didnt just show that
[04:14] <MrGlass> much easier
[04:14] <jmarsden> No problem :)  In future you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search for packages before you google...
[04:14] <MrGlass> lol, fair point
[04:15] <MrGlass> i was just googling the errors i got
[04:15] <jmarsden> The guides you found were for older version of Ubuntu, basically.
[04:15] <MrGlass> yeah, not surprising
[04:15] <MrGlass> btw, whats the diff between aptitude and apt-get?
[04:16] <jmarsden> They both install packages, some people liek one and some like the other... aptitude does more to help with managing dependencies than apt-get, which is great when it works and a nuisance when it doesn't quite work.
[04:16] <MrGlass> hmm, k
[04:16] <MrGlass> right, im gonna go celebrate finally getting this server configured right
[04:16] <MrGlass> while it backs up
[04:16] <MrGlass> lol
[04:16] <MrGlass> cya
[04:17] <jmarsden> Bye :)
[04:34] <Byron_> Hello everyone.
[04:35] <Byron_> I finally have my Ubuntu server running smoothly.
[04:35] <Byron_> I have 3 sites being hosted on it.
[04:35] <Byron_> Just wanted to get an idea about a book. Is the "Ubuntu 9.04 Server: Administration and Reference" a worthy purchase?
[04:51] <jmarsden> Byron_: I think it is so new that few people have read it... no reviews yet on Amazon, etc.  Maybe you can flip through it in a local brick and mortar bookstore before purchase, to make sure it suits your needs?
[04:52] <Byron_> jmarsden: That's the unfortunate part. Nobody near me carries it. I'm feeling like this book only exists in my head.
[04:53] <jmarsden> Then it's basically a US$25 gamble at this point... so if your company is paying, fine, if you are paying, maybe wait a while?
[04:54] <Byron> Checking IRC for a copy of the book so that I have something to read and better understand the server I built. I'm going about it all blindly and resolving issues, but that's only going to get me so far without knowing exactly how/why that error happened in the first place.
[04:54] <Byron> No, this book is being purchased by me.
[04:55] <jmarsden> So... have you read all the Debian and Ubuntu docs online already?  At least the Ubuntu Server Guide... ?
[04:56] <jmarsden> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/
[04:56] <Byron> No luck finding a server guide, either. I don't live in the woods for this book to be so elusive.
[04:57] <jmarsden> It is elusive because it has only been published for about six weeks :)
[04:58] <jmarsden> Read the official docs for now, and look for that book in another month or two, when it is likely to have been more widely distributed.
[04:59] <Byron> I live near the very busy part of SoCal. I'm surprised I'm not seeing at least a copy or two near me.
[05:00] <jmarsden> Understood... I'm in SoCal too... but the world of Ubuntu servers has survived for years without this particular book... so you can probably get equivalent information elsewhere, including online.
[05:23] <qman__> This is the best linux book I have, though it's not ubuntu specific:  http://www.apress.com/book/view/9781590594445
[05:24] <qman__> adapting it to ubuntu requires a little bit of experience, but it has a lot of good information
[05:28] <qman__> it covers a lot of good security practices, why they're good, and how to do them
[05:32] <Byron> Sorry, checking out the server guide online. I'll take a look at that book as well.
[05:51] <loongson_> are anyone on the MOTU team?
[05:52] <jmarsden> I wish I were... maybe one day :)  I suggest you try asking your question in #ubuntu-motu
[05:53] <loongson_> I know, I was sent here by that group
[05:53] <loongson_> Anyone who are MOTU
[05:53] <loongson_> would you please review all 389-related packages
[05:53] <loongson_> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-389-directory-server
[05:54] <loongson_> in REVU?  They needs to be advocated before 389 can make it to Karmic
[05:54] <loongson_> 389 is the LDAP successor and it definitely needs to be included by Karmic
[05:56] <jmarsden> You'd probably have more success on a weekday, at a time when either the USA is mostly awake, or at a time when Europe is awake... right now the USA is mostly asleep (10pm here in California) and most of Western Europe is not yet awake :)
[07:26] <richardcavell> Can anyone help me with getting ssh to work?  I can ssh to other computers over the Internet but they cannot ssh to me
[07:29] <mattt> richardcavell: firewall?
[07:30] <richardcavell> iptables returns nothing, mattt
[07:31] <richardcavell> I've set up port forwarding - port 22 from the Internet to my computer through the modem. Like I said, I can ssh out but they can't ssh in.
[07:42] <MrGlass> hey
[07:42] <MrGlass> how do i uninstall an app?
[07:42] <MrGlass> from command line
[07:43] <MrGlass> ah, remove
[07:43] <MrGlass> lol
[08:09]  * qman__ is listening to "Still" by "Geto Boys" from the album "YTMND Soundtrack - Volume 4"  [0:07/4:03]  [128 kbps]
[08:09] <qman__> oops, wrong channel, sorry
[10:30] <petx> hi all... I try to show request time out while pinging other PC on network... any idea??
[12:07] <orogor> hi here
[12:08] <orogor> when creating a raid with md , can i specify a device as an uuid instead of a devfs name?
[12:08] <orogor> also , why is sata_nv missing ?
[12:10] <orogor> haa sorry , it s built in
[12:27] <piegod> Hello, I've tried to follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing but on connected machines I get no Internet connectivity (eth1 is a WiFi AP, eth0 has Internet)
[12:27] <piegod> what am I doing wrong?
[12:28] <Bilge> Life
[12:29] <piegod> ?
[12:31] <jpds> orogor: Sure, the uuids are at /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[12:32] <orogor> jpds, what would be the sintax for that ?
[12:33] <orogor> i replace /dev/sda by uuid=1234455  ?
[12:33] <jpds> sudo mdadm --add /dev/disk/by-uuid/ /dev/sda ?
[12:33] <jpds> by-uuid/skajfdskdafhqwruqw *
[12:33] <orogor> actually i ask before i never saw anyone doing this in any exemple or  doc
[12:34] <orogor> thanks
[12:34] <jpds> Well, the stuff in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ are just symbolic links to ../sda1, etc.
[12:35] <orogor> haa, never paid attention they were symlinks
[12:51] <orogor> bbl
[13:05] <pixlbox> this question may be off topic, i have ftp set up so i can access my fonts from elsewhere for some reason the fonts arnt uploading to the server correctly, its just listing them there the files themselves are 0KB
[13:56] <BrixSat> hello
[13:57] <BrixSat> i have a pc with 2 nics eth0 is wan and eth1 is lan, how do i forward from eth0 the port 13000 to 192.168.182.2 wich is on eth1?
[14:09] <pmatulis> BrixSat: see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/73 for an example
[14:11] <BrixSat> pmatulis thanks
[14:23] <rferrada> alo?
[14:24] <rferrada> dears, im new in this chat...and im having problems with mu new server
[14:25] <rferrada> i just installed again a server with ubutnu 8.04L with a new IP address but the dns server still ask me for the old IP address, so when i do ping to this server appair like unreachable
[14:27] <rferrada> somebody there?
[14:35] <rferrada> toc toc ...someboy in the room???
[14:38] <Tom_Ass> yes, but I can't help you with that problem
[14:39] <rferrada> :( thanks anyway to respond
[14:40] <rferrada> i dont know why there are a lot of people in the room and nobody say nothing
[14:47] <BrixSat> hi
[14:48] <BrixSat> say again.. you have a dns installed on a fresh machine and it asks for the old one?
[14:49] <BrixSat> the problem is not on that one rferrada the problem is probably on the machine that dhcp your server
[14:49] <BrixSat> and by the way dns takes time to spread
[14:49] <BrixSat> in some cases 48 hours
[14:50] <aent> hi... I was wondering if I could set a max upload/download speed for certain IP addresses? either in apache or somewhere else?
[14:51] <rferrada> hi thanks !...no, i re install one server with a new IP address but the dns still when i do ping is looking for the old ip
[14:51] <BrixSat> aent using a php script you can control the upl / dnl speed
[14:52] <rferrada> the dns is installed in the PDC server
[14:52] <BrixSat> rferrada so way till the pdc server rehash the config
[14:52] <BrixSat> inside the network can you ping your server?
[14:52] <BrixSat> using ip and not dns
[14:53] <aent> its not a php script...
[14:53] <zoopster> rferrada: you need to update your named server with the new ip address
[14:53] <rferrada> no, i can ping my selft (the server) and also i got connection with the internet but the another pcs, can to ping to th "name server" just directly to the IP address
[14:54] <BrixSat> so problem is not on your server
[14:54] <rferrada> yes, thay can ping to the Ip, but not the name
[14:54] <pmatulis> rferrada: so change you dns configuration (point the name to the new IP)
[14:54] <zoopster> rferrada: change the "A" record on the dns entry pointing to that server
[14:54] <BrixSat> but on pdc, update the condifg like zoopster said
[14:55] <pmatulis> wow, triple blast
[14:56] <rferrada> so..change the A in the dns entry?
[14:56] <BrixSat> yes
[14:57] <rferrada> thanks, one question more...how is called this file because i try to find some file that cintain this name and i coulnt
[14:58] <BrixSat> rferrada to simplify use webmin ;) a web interface to control the server ;)
[14:58] <zoopster> rferrada: where does your named server - you mentioned a PDC...is the named server running on windows?
[14:59] <rferrada> no it run with a old gentoo
[15:01] <rferrada> i mean pdc is gentoo my server is ubuntu
[15:01] <pmatulis> rferrada: maybe http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/BIND
[15:01] <rferrada> yes i will try with that...thanks a lot for your help...
[15:02] <zoopster> pmatulis has all the links!
[15:02] <rferrada> i will try tomorrow morning
[15:02] <pmatulis> first hit from google for "gentoo bind"
[15:03] <rferrada> thanks guys
[15:03] <BrixSat> where does normaly iptables rules stay?
[15:08] <rferrada> sorry the last question is for me?
[15:08] <BrixSat> :P If you know the answer yes ;)
[15:09] <rferrada> hahah..is runnugn in the old gentoo (PDC)
[15:09] <BrixSat> why does iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p UDP --dport 13000 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.182.2:13000
[15:09] <BrixSat> get's destination anywhere on nat list?
[15:09] <BrixSat> DNAT       udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:13000 to:192.168.182.2:13000
[15:10] <zoopster> BrixSat: there is no "normal" location, but logically you save them in /etc using iptables-save and restore from there using iptable-restore. I use UFW to make it simpler for me so they are saved elsewhere for me
[15:47] <BrixSat> ;)
[16:12] <ricdanger> hi
[16:12] <ricdanger> is there any alternative software to canonical landscape (somehthing like the ~opensource spacewalk)?
[16:21] <RoyK> what is it landscape does so well?
[16:32] <pmatulis> ricdanger: no
[16:33] <ricdanger> how do you handle updates on multiple servers?
[16:33] <ricdanger> i'm currently using puppet for configuration changes
[16:33] <ricdanger> but I just don't trust it for upgrades
[16:34] <pmatulis> ricdanger: good call
[16:35] <ricdanger> my problem is that I'm handling updates of both desktop and server
[16:35] <ricdanger> desktops can be turned off by users
[16:35] <ricdanger> so the upgrade can go wrong
[16:36] <ricdanger> and it only have a total lack of reporting for this kind of operations
[16:36] <RoyK> if it's just software upgrades, then just install cron-apt and configure it to do it all automatically
[16:38] <ricdanger> i was undert the impression cron-apt would only fetch the packages
[16:38] <RoyK> by default, yes
[16:38] <ricdanger> maybe I should take a better look at it :D
[16:38] <RoyK> but you can configure it to install them as well
[16:39] <ricdanger> that's great
[16:39] <ricdanger> and is there a way to prevent it from installing kernel upgrades?
[16:39] <ricdanger> that messes up+ with my vmware installation
[16:39] <ricdanger> they must be done manually, because of the "vmware-tools"
[16:40] <RoyK> not sure
[16:40] <BlasterMaster> has anyone experience with "desktop sharing" under "freenx"?
[16:40] <ricdanger> I setup a server 2 months ago
[16:40] <ricdanger> maybe I can help
[16:41] <BlasterMaster> ok i want to set the server up that i can have a remote desktop with freenx
[16:41] <RoyK> ricdanger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238706
[16:42] <ricdanger> blastermaster: as far as I remember, it was quite straight forward to setup with an apt-get and nx-setup (i guess it was called like that)
[16:42] <ricdanger> i only had a problem with some user password that had a minus character as the first character
[16:43] <ricdanger> do you have anyu specific p+roblemn?
[16:43] <RoyK> ricdanger: in short - apt-get install wajig, wajig hold <package name>
[16:45] <BlasterMaster> i want the same session which i have on my local display, but i cant get connectet with this session
[16:45] <BlasterMaster> maybe i dont know how to setup the node.conf
[16:45] <ricdanger> uhmmm...
[16:45] <ricdanger> I never did that with nx
[16:45] <ricdanger> only with vnc
[16:46] <ricdanger> :S
[16:46] <ricdanger> I just create "NX" sessions and attach them with the nx cl'ient
[16:47] <BlasterMaster> for me it would be nice to see so that i can use amarok on both session
[16:47] <pmatulis> RoyK: why not just use aptitude for pinning?
[16:48] <RoyK> probably works just as well
[16:48] <RoyK> I'm not into aptitude
[16:48] <ricdanger> I never used aptitude
[16:48] <ricdanger> never undestood the advantages of it over apt
[16:48] <RoyK> well - catch you guys later
[16:50] <pmatulis> ricdanger: if you can avoid installing extra packages, especially ones from universe, then you should do so
[16:53] <BlasterMaster> so am i wrong to have the same displayed on both screens with nx?
[16:56] <BlasterMaster> i tried to create a shadow session but it never worked
[16:58] <pmatulis> ricdanger: btw, pinning with aptitude is as simple as 'sudo aptitude hold gdm', if you wanted to pin the gdm package
[17:01] <axisys> i have two 80gb disks (sda and sdb) on x2100 . i am running jaunty server on sdb.. how do I mirror sda .. so incase sdb goes bad, i can boot from sda ?
[17:02] <axisys> in solaris i just  use svm (solaris volume manager) to take care of that
[17:06] <jgedeon> axisys you can set them up in a software raid.
[17:06] <jgedeon> But if you are worried about losing something soon you can dd the drive.
[17:12] <axisys> jgedeon: no fear of loosing anything..
[17:15] <MT-> You guys have any idea what's going on with lines 18 & 19 and the duplicates of those?
[17:18] <MT-> and the link...http://pastebin.com/m36d3ddeb
[17:22] <pmatulis> MT-: no home for user 'nobody'?
[17:23] <MT-> pmatulis: is there supposed to be?
[17:23] <MT-> pmatulis: I'm just curious why those are showing up
[17:24] <MT-> ls
[17:28] <pmatulis> MT-: ls?
[17:29] <MT-> pmatulis: sorry, I was sending my bot something and spaced on what I was sending and doing and pretty ,uch had a cataclismic brain fart
[17:36] <pmatulis> MT-: i think what you're seeing is an application dropping privileges.  it starts as root but then drops to nobody
[17:37] <MT-> oh
[17:37] <MT-> hrm... would supybot do that?
[17:38] <pmatulis> MT-: no
[17:38] <MT-> oh..
[17:38] <pmatulis> you start supybot as your regular user right?  i think it complains if you try to start it as root
[17:39] <MT-> ya, I run as normal
[17:40] <pmatulis> MT-: anyway, i just did a test.  i became root and then su'd to nobody.  i get the message 'Successful su for nobody by root'
[17:40] <MT-> So it's not root becoming nobody
[17:42] <pmatulis> yes it is
[17:42] <pmatulis> "i became root and then su'd to nobody"
[17:42] <MT-> .... sorry...
[17:43] <MT-> lemme guess - next line should be a little more explanative that it is
[17:46] <MT-> pmatulis: thanks :)
[17:46] <MT-> I'll try to watch that sometime and catch the pid to track it down :)
[18:10] <FFForever> why is sendmail-mta using such a high amount of cpu when sending messages (brings me over 1.0 load avg), is there better alternatives then sendmail-bin for sending mail with php
[18:14] <MT-> FFForever: mail(
[18:14] <MT-> FFForever: mail()
[18:15] <MT-> FFForever: you do know that 1.0 means 1 process average, right?
[18:15] <MT-> it's not a %
[18:23] <FFForever> what is a zombie process?
[18:24] <MT-> FFForever: a process that started running, finished its job, but didn't stop execution
[18:25] <FFForever> how do i locate them, top says i have 4, are they bad?
[18:26] <FFForever> MT-, how does my log files keep getting around 500mb+??
[18:26] <FFForever> root@chr1831:~# du -sh /var/log
[18:26] <FFForever> 1005M	/var/log
[18:26] <FFForever> was 2.1gb yesterday
[18:28] <MT-> FFForever: pastebin this  du -hs /var/log/*
[18:29] <FFForever> http://pastebin.com/f79cf896d
[18:30] <MT-> FFForever: look at mail*
[18:30] <FFForever> MT-, i see, what about syslog?, thats 60mb =\
[18:30] <MT-> FFForever: check that you're not being spammed
[18:30] <MT-> look at the obvious first
[18:31] <MT-> if the errors in mail* point to syslog, then go there
[18:31] <FFForever> Jul 19 06:36:21 chr1831 sm-mta[5140]: n6G8FkUS003836: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec /usr/sbin/sensible-mda: No such file or directory
[18:31] <FFForever> Jul 19 06:36:21 chr1831 sm-mta[3820]: n6G8FkUS003836: SYSERR(root): putbody: write error: Broken pipe
[18:31] <FFForever> i thought i fixed that by installing sensible-mda
[18:31] <MT-> are you using exim4?
[18:32] <FFForever> not that i know of, i am operating a outbounds only mailer (sendmail-bin)
[18:32] <FFForever> just so php can send emails
[18:32] <MT-> aptitude install sendmail
[18:33] <FFForever> will that open port 25 for everyone to mail through me?
[18:33] <FFForever> i just want php to be able to send mail, no one else
[18:33] <MT-> no ubuntu app defaults to public incoming 25
[18:34] <FFForever> ahhhh
[18:35] <MT-> you can easily configure them for that - but 80% of users probably don't want that - guessing
[18:36] <FFForever> MT-, can i add suphp to log rotation?
[18:36] <MT-> !info suphp
[18:36] <MT-> !suphp
[18:36] <MT-> If ubottu doesn't know about it - I would suggest no
[18:36] <FFForever> MT-, i installed it manually, it runs php as the uid/guid of the user and not as www-data
[18:37] <MT-> oh - then ya - I would say don't do that
[18:37] <FFForever> !libapache2-mod-suphp
[19:20] <ScottK> MT-: Why are you recommending Sendmail?
[19:21] <MT-> ScottK: it seemed to be what he was trying to use
[19:21] <MT-> sorry
[19:21] <ScottK> Generally for Ubuntu we prefer Postfix and Exim4 and all the help docs are written for Postfix.
[19:21] <ScottK> MT-: Many MTA packages provide a sendmail binary.
[19:21] <MT-> FFForever: ^
[19:21] <MT-> ScottK: I'll suggest better from now on :)
[19:22] <ScottK> MT-: OK.  Sounds good.
[19:22] <ScottK> Postfix is generally the best recommendation for here.
[19:23] <arrrghhh> soooo does anyone know of a good cli "jukebox-like" program?  all i really want is a web ui to control it (like vlc) - i've seen all these cli/headless solutions for streaming (i have a daap firefly server setup arleady) but i want something that plays thru the local server hardware instead of streaming it to another device.  for me, this would be easier then i am not tethered to the stereo system anymore!
[19:30] <arrrghhh> or do most use their servers for streaming instead of hooking the server to a physical amplifier?  it seems the configuration i desire is uncommon.
[19:50] <arrrghhh> anybody at least be able to help me out with sound?  i get an error when trying to run alsamixer.
[19:53] <simon-o> arrrghhh: are you sure #ubuntu-server is the right place?
[19:53] <arrrghhh> well i'm running a server install... there's no gui...
[19:54] <simon-o> arrrghhh: and you want sound on a server?
[19:54] <arrrghhh> well, initially i didn't... but i'm finding streaming it to another device is cumbersome, i'd much rather just play the music directly off the server and control the software thru a webui...
[19:55] <arrrghhh> er control the software that plays the music thru a webui.
[19:55] <arrrghhh> and i figured this room would have more server-minded peoples that would have more useful suggestions than just the plaim ubuntu room :D
[19:56] <mattgyver> Hi, im running fail2ban but it appears that its releasing the ip bans though i have set the ban time set to -1, the logs show several "Error: Unknown communication issue" does anyone know how to remedy this?
[19:57] <arrrghhh> i really just want a music device that's not my craptacular ipod which no longer shuffles music.  i'd like something that i don't need to hook a screen up to that plays music easily.
[19:57] <simon-o> arrrghhh: ok I understand. I can't help you there. but I think in #ubuntu they can. and besides that it's !weekend
[19:57] <simon-o> !weekend
[19:58] <arrrghhh> yea, i see.
[19:58] <arrrghhh> i'll try over in ubuntu, i just usually am met with a flood of suggestions that require an X server at the very least, and then the flaming starts as to why i'm not using a full desktop blah blah have  you checked in ubuntu-server y'know.
[19:59] <simon-o> arrrghhh: ok, good luck :)
[19:59] <arrrghhh> thanks!
[20:22] <MT-> come back... I had an idea
[20:22] <MT-> lol
[20:22] <MT-> oh well
[20:54] <user345fgh> hi
[20:55] <user345fgh> is there some sort of console editor to add services that start at runtime?
[21:14] <jpds> user345fgh: Yes, init.d and update-rc.d
[21:15] <RoyK> looking into zfs on opensolaris, linux comes short
[21:37] <pmatulis> user345fgh: please investigate the chkconfig package
[21:38] <pmatulis> (a type of "port" from red hat)
[21:38] <pmatulis> it's in universe however
[23:05] <Pit3r> good nigh everyone
[23:05] <Pit3r> someone already install citrix xenapp client in ubuntu 9.04 64bits?
[23:18] <axisys>       
[23:20] <axisys> how do I build software raid 1 between sda and sdb ? i have jaunty server running on sda1 ..
[23:21] <axisys> i dont want to reinstall to create md0 (mirror of sda1 and sdb1)
[23:26] <billybigrigger> can someone here shed some light on how i go about getting webalizer to read more than 1 access log?
[23:26] <billybigrigger> everytime apache rotates the log i loose my stats
[23:40] <orogor> hi here
[23:41] <orogor> anyone familiar with initramfs grub and boot stuff ?
[23:41] <orogor> i am  trying to boot to a raid 10 system with  separate /boot , however i keep having problems
[23:59] <billybigrigger> LogFile="cat /var/log/apache2/access.* > /var/log/apache2/awstats"