[00:11] <ingo> s
[00:53] <Carter> sup ubuntus
[01:03] <ratkymarcell> hi
[01:03] <snarkster> if i ssh into a box how do i start an application on it on screen.
[01:35] <thumper> does anyone else have they keyboard periodically fail?
[01:36] <thumper> I can Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a tty1
[01:36] <thumper> but no other keypress events seem to get caught by kubuntu
[01:36] <thumper> damn frustrating
[01:36] <thumper> only seen it happen on my laptop
[01:40] <thumper> just logging out and in seems to fix the issue
[01:40] <thumper> mouse events work fine
[01:52] <cristiano> Ola
[01:52] <cristiano> esse canal e portugues?
[01:53] <BluesKaj> !pt
[02:11] <Respatix> can someone give me link for kubuntu 8.10?  When I go to kubuntu.org it only gives me options for 8.04 or 9.04
[02:13] <Steve_> http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/
[02:14] <Respatix> Steve_:thanks
[02:18] <Steve_> I bin using launchpad to post bugs.. but noone seems to act on them.. what am I doing wrong?
[02:20] <Steve_> or where should I post the bugs?
[02:20] <Count> Captain_Haddock are you around?
[02:21] <AceBlade159> anybody know what changed between 8.10 and 9.04 pertaining to SATA HDD Detection?
[02:21] <darthanubis> Steve_: you've posted the bugs to the right place, now be patient
[02:21] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: nothing
[02:22] <AceBlade159> darthnubis: you sure, my hard drives are detected on an 8.10 live cd, but not a 9.04
[02:22] <Rhetorik> anyone know a good graphical archiver? Ark doesn't like passwords apparently
[02:23] <Steve_> 7zip is not to bad (does the job).. but im sure there is better tools
[02:23] <Count> there is also peazip
[02:24] <Rhetorik> is peazip command line?
[02:24] <Steve_> O nice I thought peazip was windows only, might switch over
[02:25] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: you sure, my hard drives are detected on an 8.10 live cd, but not a 9.04
[02:25] <Count> peazip is graphical, and there is a linux version
[02:26] <Steve_> darthanubis: I had a smiler issue, did you try some of the boot options
[02:26] <Zxcvb> how do I get a bluetooth mouse to reconnect after rebooting?
[02:27] <Rhetorik> err just downloaded the peazip rpm and it said an error occured during installation
[02:28] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: 9.04 should still install on your drives though
[02:28] <Count> Rhetorik, I think I compiled my version
[02:28] <Count> and if you are using an rpm, you'll have to use alien to convert the rpm into a deb for installation
[02:28] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: it dosn't dven detect that i have a drive other than my cd-rom
[02:29] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: i am on an nforce 4 chipset
[02:29] <Rhetorik> ah, got it Count thanks
[02:29] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: that is not good, which CD are you trying?
[02:29] <david_> hi there
[02:29] <Count> np
[02:29] <darthanubis> and are there BIOS options you can change
[02:29] <david_> ive added myself to a group yet when i type "groups" i am not in that group
[02:30] <AceBlade159> currently i am on the 9.04 live ubuntu, but it's the same in kubuntu and xubuntu
[02:30] <david_> how do i update my group list?
[02:30] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: you have to set BIOS options to tell Ubuntu you have SATA drives
[02:30] <Steve_> david - log out and back in
[02:30] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: and turn RAID off if it is enabled in BIOS
[02:31] <darthanubis> I'm just taking shots in the dark here
[02:31] <david_> Steve_: do i need to log out of my whole kubuntu session?
[02:31] <Steve_> also AceBlade159 some BIOS have emulate as IDE
[02:31] <darthanubis> I just moved from a nforce chipset to Intel
[02:31] <AceBlade159> that's the thing, i cant. windows sees my drives, and 8.10 does too, but not 9.04
[02:31] <Steve_> try 9.10 :P
[02:31] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: that is too bad
[02:31] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: install 8.10 then do a full upgrade to 9.04?
[02:31] <AceBlade159> steve_: i think nforce is perminatly stuck
[02:32] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: but i loose the quicker boot up
[02:32] <darthanubis> ??
[02:33] <AceBlade159> 8.10 live takes ~5 min. to boot, installe takes ~3.5
[02:33] <dbc254> really dumb question. Kubuntu newbie here
[02:33] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: no you won't lose the quicker boot  up, a full upgrade is just that a full upgrade
[02:33] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: you sure all stays the same?
[02:33] <darthanubis> !ask| dbc254
[02:34] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: I did it no issues, but I never have issue most seem to run into
[02:34] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: what kind of computer you have>?
[02:34] <dbc254> how do I change an icon? It's currently just a question mark in my applications
[02:34] <dbc254> but it works. Just want to change the icon
[02:35] <AceBlade159> dbc254: right click, select properties
[02:35] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: I had a XFX 680i nforce SLI
[02:35] <Count> has anyone heard of a problem where, all kde 3.5 programs are unresponsive?
[02:35] <dbc254> when I right click, there are is no "properties" option
[02:35] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: and you have no issues, lucky
[02:36] <darthanubis> now I have an Asus P5 SE2, i build my own boxes, i just changed my mobo, because the XFX mobo was too noisey
[02:36] <AceBlade159> dbc254: one sec
[02:36] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: mine is an old custom build, nForce 4 AMD Ultra
[02:37] <darthanubis> wow
[02:37] <darthanubis> what kind of amd?
[02:37] <AceBlade159> Athlon 64 X2 3800+
[02:37] <darthanubis> what kind of chipset 754, 929?
[02:37] <darthanubis> AM2?
[02:37] <AceBlade159> 939
[02:37] <darthanubis> Like my brothers
[02:37] <AceBlade159> oooooooolllllldddd
[02:38] <darthanubis> it's not a bad build
[02:38] <AceBlade159> drivers are under the 'legacy' section
[02:38] <darthanubis> It is a 64bit dual core chip
[02:38] <darthanubis> that aint "old"
[02:38] <AceBlade159> no, it's a spectular build and is still running stable
[02:39] <AceBlade159> i consider it old when parts of it become "legacy"
[02:39] <darthanubis> true
[02:39] <darthanubis> but still bad a##
[02:39] <AceBlade159> dbc254: sorry, i forget how to do that in kde
[02:39] <dbc254> oh snap!
[02:40] <AceBlade159> indeed. i have it overclocked at the moment to 2.68 ghz
[02:40] <dbc254> just switched from Mandriva, and it's the only thing I can't do yet. One icon is a question mark instead of the icon
[02:41] <AceBlade159> dbc254: lol, i'm still learning kde, i mostly know gnome
[02:41] <darthanubis> dbc254: i was a Mandrake user more  than 10yrs ago, the memories
[02:41] <AceBlade159> i came from gentoo
[02:41] <Steve_> arch
[02:41] <AceBlade159> ... installs took way too long
[02:41] <darthanubis> I just switched to KDE after using Gnome since ubuntu debuted
[02:41] <dbc254> I switched from SuSe to Mandrake, stayed with 'em till a couple weeks ago. Now I'm using Kubuntu
[02:41] <AceBlade159> why'd you switch to kde?
[02:41] <darthanubis> I used Gentoo back whenGentoo first came out
[02:42] <dbc254> still have to install virtual box, but everything is working great
[02:42] <darthanubis> Because of Gnome Mono adoption
[02:42] <dbc254> I've always preferred KDE to Gnoe
[02:42] <AceBlade159> i never got around to trying SuSe
[02:42] <darthanubis> and KDE4x is badd a$$
[02:42] <AceBlade159> what do you mean Mono?
[02:42] <Steve_> KDE is only good in my books since QT went OpenSource
[02:43] <darthanubis> Steve_: right
[02:43] <darthanubis> AceBlade159: C#
[02:43] <dbc254> who else here might know how to change an icon ?
[02:43] <AceBlade159> and yes kde 4x is amazing
[02:43] <Steve_> ok what icon?
[02:43] <Steve_> and what window managewr
[02:43] <AceBlade159> oh yeah... well whatever:) it all beats Vista
[02:43] <dbc254> I have a comic reader program and I'm using KDE. It works but the icon is a questionmark
[02:44] <dbc254> linux crushes M$.!
[02:44] <AceBlade159> mmmm... i don't know, from a purely technical standpoint MS has the advantage
[02:45] <AceBlade159> morally Linux is by far and wide better
[02:45] <dbc254> steve_ right clicking doesn't give me a "properties" option
[02:45] <dbc254> linux let me use hardware that MS would laugh at
[02:45] <Steve_> dbc254: ok right click on the K then Menu Editor...
[02:45] <Steve_> then click on the program in the tree view
[02:46] <Steve_> then click on the icon picture on the right
[02:46] <Steve_> select the new icon
[02:46] <AceBlade159> steve_: would you happen to know a workaround for the emulation problem?
[02:47] <Steve_> what emulator?
[02:47] <Steve_> Virtual Box?
[02:47] <AceBlade159> sorry, i should be more specific. nf4 chipset emulating all SATA as IDE
[02:48] <Steve_> humm i ran into a problem with that... I think I used some kernel option
[02:49] <AceBlade159> if you could help me with that i would be eternally gratful
[02:49] <dbc254> thanx STEVE
[02:49] <Steve_> but if i were u i would go to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20090719/ and grab the latest
[02:49] <AceBlade159> *i can't spell for $h**
[02:49] <Steve_> np dbc254
[02:49] <darthanubis> you know guys we are waaay OT;)
[02:50] <AceBlade159> is that stable enough for installation?
[02:50] <Steve_> sure
[02:50] <AceBlade159> darthanubis: were, not are
[02:50] <Steve_> im not sure but ya i do it all the time
[02:50] <AceBlade159> alright, brb
[02:52] <nonewmsgs> even though i am using my "high definition" built-in soundcard, only one program can have access to the soundcard at one time.  is there a fix for this or do ihave to stick in a better card?
[02:53] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: it is not the onboard sound it is that Kbuntu does not have pulseaudio configured
[02:54] <darthanubis> i just fixed mine by following the pulseaudio ubuntu wiki
[02:54] <Steve_> could someone with POWER look at some bugs i posted.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/~steve-r-weber
[02:54] <Steve_> and get them fixed up
[02:55] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[02:55] <nonewmsgs> darthanubis, so pulse audio instead of ALSA will fix my problem?
[02:55] <darthanubis> Steve_: your not going to wait til it is handled
[02:55] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: it did for me
[02:55] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: the alternative was unacceptable
[02:55] <Steve_> no because my old bug reports bin sitting for like 3 weeks
[02:55] <darthanubis> Steve_: that is nothing
[02:56] <Steve_> lol
[02:56] <darthanubis> they may not get answered at all, because maybe it is NOT a bug?
[02:56] <Steve_> well ya not bugs.. but thay bug me :)
[02:57] <Steve_> like the KDE logout song causing blocking...
[02:57] <Steve_> and the dam pcspkr why not blacklist
[02:58] <Steve_> also after installing ubuntu the volume is at max and the song is like ccrazy loud
[02:59] <Steve_> agree no?
[03:00] <darthanubis> those are called "paper cuts"
[03:00] <darthanubis> not show stoppers
[03:00] <Steve_> well paper cuts add up.. and they should be simple fixes
[03:01] <`Onyx> Hi, I'm having trouble trying to get my webcam on my laptop to work
[03:02] <`Onyx> Anyone able to help?
[03:02] <Steve_> what it say when u plug it in
[03:02] <Steve_> dmesg?
[03:03] <`Onyx> Are you talking to me Steve_ ?
[03:04] <Steve_> yes
[03:04] <Steve_> is it UVC?
[03:04] <`Onyx> It's built into my laptop
[03:04] <Steve_> humm
[03:04] <Steve_> lsusb
[03:04] <Steve_> du u see any webcam stuff?
[03:05] <`Onyx> Nope
[03:06] <Steve_> did you try google.. "(your laptop model) ubuntu webcam"
[03:06] <`Onyx> Yeah
[03:06] <`Onyx> There wasn't much at all
[03:06] <`Onyx> Only people with problems and no solutions
[03:06] <`Onyx> Hence why I'm asking here
[03:06] <Steve_> well then im likly no help then
[03:07] <Steve_> sorry guy
[03:07] <Steve_> er what is your model?
[03:12] <`Onyx> dv9000
[03:13] <`Onyx> And it's all good. Just thought I'd try my luck
[03:13] <`Onyx> There's bound to be someone that can help eventually
[03:14] <Steve_> do u see a Bus 005 Device 002: ID 05ca:1810 Ricoh Co., Ltd
[03:14] <Steve_> when u go lsusb
[03:15] <Steve_> er a "Ricoh Co., Ltd"
[03:15] <`Onyx> Nope
[03:16] <`Onyx> I don't understand why you're looking at the USB ports though
[03:16] <`Onyx> It's built in
[03:16] <AceBlade159> the web cam would be connected to a usb port
[03:16] <AceBlade159> iven if it is built in, it still connects via usb protocall
[03:17] <AceBlade159> *even
[03:17] <AceBlade159> and what's the full model number?
[03:17] <`Onyx> Ah I see
[03:17] <`Onyx> HP Pavillion dv9000
[03:18] <AceBlade159> on the bottom of the laptop there should be a serial number sticker the says somewhere HP Pavillion dv9xxx
[03:18] <AceBlade159> dv9000 is the general model
[03:19] <Steve_> `Onyx: could you send me the lsusb output
[03:20] <`Onyx> It doesn't say anything else besides "Entertainment PC"
[03:20] <Steve_> 064e:a110 is the cam
[03:20] <Steve_> google Suyin Corp
[03:21] <AceBlade159> sorry, my client crashed
[03:21] <AceBlade159> have you found the model number?
[03:22] <Steve_> http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/howto-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-pavilion-dv2000-dv6000-dv9000-series-laptops
[03:22] <Steve_> that should help
[03:22] <`Onyx> No there was no number I could see AceBlade159
[03:22] <nonewmsgs> darthanubis, thank you for your help!  i now can play from 2 different media players, but if i try to use this one java chess interface, it still is the only sound source?
[03:22] <`Onyx> Thanks Steve_ !
[03:22] <Steve_> np
[03:23] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: great!
[03:23] <AceBlade159> anybody know how supported ati graphics are?
[03:23] <nonewmsgs> darthanubis, but how can i have sound from players and te java thing?
[03:23] <AceBlade159> rather, how well they work
[03:24] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: check pulseaudio manager
[03:29] <nonewmsgs> darthanubis, http://yfrog.com/b5paulselp is a screenshot
[03:29] <nonewmsgs> darthanubis, but i cannot hear the mgmt song
[03:31] <darthanubis> nonewmsgs: have you rebooted? And not ALL applications will work with Pulseaudio. Do your homework:)
[03:32] <nonewmsgs> Darthanubis no i haven't.  hold on
[03:32] <Steve_> my ati is working good
[03:33] <`Onyx> Steve_, you know a good webcam program?
[03:33] <`Onyx> It's working in aMSN
[03:33] <`Onyx> But not in camorama
[03:33] <Steve_> hummm what u want to do with the webcam?
[03:34] <`Onyx> Are you familiar with any windows cam programs?
[03:34] <`Onyx> Like manycam?
[03:34] <darthanubis> `Onyx: cheese
[03:34] <`Onyx> Cheese eh?
[03:34] <Steve_> ya i guess cheese...
[03:35] <`Onyx> even with KDE?
[03:35] <Steve_> are and of the video editing tools any good?
[03:35] <darthanubis> `Onyx: why not with KDE?
[03:35] <`Onyx> It says gnome
[03:35] <Steve_> like Kino any good?
[03:35] <darthanubis> so what
[03:35] <`Onyx> Doesn't matter?
[03:35] <darthanubis> it is a linux app
[03:36] <darthanubis> jeez
[03:36] <`Onyx> lol chill out man, I'm still really new to linux
[03:36] <darthanubis> `Onyx: if it mattered it would not have been recomended
[03:37] <`Onyx> Well from this little exercise, I've learnt that it doesn't matter if you want to install a gnome app on KDE
[03:37] <`Onyx> :D
[03:38] <Steve_> or Kdenlive might be good
[03:40] <`Onyx> Cheese worked, and it has cool effects. Thanks darthanubis
[03:41] <darthanubis> `Onyx: your welcome
[04:10] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, installed minimal-cli + kde-core and have no wireless, was wondering what packages i need to install to get the graphical configuration app for it?
[04:10] <CptnAwesome> or is there a package that will give me more configuration options in general?
[04:16] <CptnAwesome> anyone?
[04:18] <Steve_> hello
[04:19] <CptnAwesome> ohh hello.
[04:19] <CptnAwesome> are bcm43xx cards supported out of the box in 9.04?
[04:19] <Steve_> humm ya i think
[04:20] <Steve_> mine works... but ya you might need to get the driver.... its a binary blob
[04:20] <CptnAwesome> ok, i installed cli + kde-core and i dont have wireless, can you point me in the right direction?
[04:21] <CptnAwesome> although i think i found a how-to online re bcm43xx cards
[04:22] <Steve_> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-modaliases
[04:22] <Steve_> if not already
[04:22] <CptnAwesome> ohh thanks
[04:22] <Steve_> and sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[04:23] <Steve_> only if you dont see a wirless card if you go iwconfig
[04:24] <Cappy|Here> couldnt find the package
[04:26] <Steve_> ya my spelling probbly off or its not out yet
[04:26] <Cappy|Here> ohh ok, i'll go through this how-to and see how I go, thanks for your help.
[04:26] <Steve_> try doing a search for broadcom in you download manager
[04:26] <Steve_> alright good lcuk
[04:34] <Zxcvb> are there any 2.6.30.1 kernel packages?
[04:40] <Steve_> ya somewhere
[05:28] <Count> alright, so I have been having this problem for a long time
[05:29] <Count> and it is that all kde 3.5 programs either go grey or become 'not responsive'
[05:30] <Count> and if they don't crash while doing that, they take extremely long amounts of time to become responsive again, meaning that either way, they're unuseable
[05:32] <Steve_> humm kde 3.5 is old right
[05:45] <fiendskull9> is there anyway i can burn a cd from inside a kubuntu live cd session
[05:53] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm thinking of switching to Kubuntu on my PS3, but I'm concerned if I just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever the command is it'll install some software I don't need.
[05:53] <ThatGuyOverThere> Help?
[05:54] <Steve_> yap it will install the KDE desktop along side the gnome
[05:55] <ThatGuyOverThere> Is there anyway I can get rid of Gnome?
[05:55] <ThatGuyOverThere> I like KDE better and I might as well save hard drive space.
[05:55] <Steve_> format :P
[05:55] <ThatGuyOverThere> Arg!
[05:55] <ThatGuyOverThere> That's unpleasant.
[05:55] <Steve_> well i guess you could try and apt-get remove ...
[05:56] <Steve_> but ya i never went that route
[05:56] <ThatGuyOverThere> Will it install OpenOffice and all that stuff over again?
[05:56] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm assuming not since they're basically the same software with a different desktop environment, right?
[05:56] <Steve_> no...
[05:56] <Steve_> ya
[05:56] <ThatGuyOverThere> 'Kay.
[05:57] <Steve_> i have both gnome and kde packages.. it's not to bad
[05:57] <ThatGuyOverThere> On a PS3 or a PC?
[05:57] <Steve_> but i reformat like everymonth PC
[05:57] <Steve_> ya ps3 sounds risky
[05:57] <Steve_> how are the video drivers treating ya
[05:57] <ThatGuyOverThere> Meh, I'm not using it for anything heavy-duty yet, so I wouldn't know.
[05:58] <ThatGuyOverThere> I tried playing a video once in VLC and it was a mess though. Little worried. :/
[05:58] <Steve_> i tryed it like 2 years ago.. but could not stand only 256 ram
[05:58] <ThatGuyOverThere> So once I've installed kubuntu, how do I access it?
[05:58] <ThatGuyOverThere> It'll still boot into Gnome by default, right?
[05:59] <Steve_> it works alright as a media player when u dont have the codex.. but ps3 is solid now i think
[05:59] <Steve_> umm does it let you pick your seshion type at the bottom?
[05:59] <ThatGuyOverThere> Oh, that'll probably do it. Thanks.
[06:00] <Steve_> or does it auto log in
[06:00] <Steve_> np
[06:16] <Captain_Haddock> Count: I am now.
[06:16] <Count> well then
[06:16] <Count> all packages are fully upgraded now
[06:16] <Count> I also moved completely over to kde 4
[06:17] <Captain_Haddock> on hardy?
[06:17] <Count> yes
[06:17] <Count> the thing is is that the programs, they slow down horribly more than anything else
[06:17] <Count> it will take minutes for a menu to come up
[06:18] <Count> like I mentioned before, open office writer doesn't even fully come up, and it doesn't give any error messages
[06:18] <Captain_Haddock> when did this start happening exactly?
[06:18] <Count> I think it actually started happening once I put in kde 4 for the first time :/
[06:19] <Captain_Haddock> ah
[06:19] <Count> I would have gotten rid of kde 4, but konsole-kde4 was the only konsole I had access to
[06:19] <Count> as the 3.5 konsole suffered from the same problems
[06:20] <Captain_Haddock> I don't know if you can revert once you migrate to KDE 4
[06:21] <Count> yeah, I don't know
[06:21] <Count> like I said before, kde 4 programs work fine
[06:22] <Count> all kde3.5-tied programs are the ones with problems
[06:25] <Count> it's not that bad of a problem, besides not having open office
[06:25] <Captain_Haddock> Count: what do you get for apt-cache show kdebase
[06:25] <Captain_Haddock> ?
[06:25] <Captain_Haddock> rather, what version do you see?
[06:26] <Count> Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2
[06:26] <Count> Version: 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7
[06:26] <Count> I get two different sets of info
[06:28] <Captain_Haddock> Count: and you have a kdebase-kde4 as well?
[06:28] <Captain_Haddock> (which version?)
[06:28] <Count> no
[06:28] <Count> they're both kdebase
[06:28] <Count> let me pastebin it
[06:29] <Count> http://pastebin.com/m162db52d
[06:30] <Captain_Haddock> Count: do you also have a separate one called kdebase-kde4? (apt-cache show kdebase-kde4)
[06:31] <Count> yeah, there are two of those as well
[06:31] <Count> Version: 4:4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1
[06:31] <Count> Version: 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2
[06:32] <Captain_Haddock> ah
[06:33] <Captain_Haddock> For one thing, KDE 4.0 is something of a prebeta release (IMO)... I also don't know how having two concurrent KDEs works out in terms of stability.
[06:33] <Count> well, I tried to get rid of kdebase
[06:33] <Count> ie, apt-get remove kdebase
[06:34] <Count> but by removing kdebase, it was also going to remove the programs that came with kde4
[06:34] <Count> so I aborted
[06:34] <Captain_Haddock> right
[06:34] <Captain_Haddock> you mentioned that other programs besides openoffice also hung frequently
[06:35] <Captain_Haddock> the kde 3.5 programs?
[06:35] <Count> yes
[06:35] <Count> what will happen, is that they will be brought up, or be focused on
[06:35] <Count> and they will be unresponsive
[06:36] <Count> but, if say konsole is brought up
[06:37] <Count> it will take an extremely long time for just the basic konsole screen to show
[06:37] <Count> and then after that, if you wanted to maximize it, you could click, and it would maximize after minutes
[06:37] <Count> then, you could type something, and it would show up in the konsole minutes later
[06:38] <Captain_Haddock> which terminal is stable atm?
[06:38] <Count> kde4 konsole
[06:39] <Captain_Haddock> can you type "top" in that to get a list of processes? You should be able to use > to sort the various columns.. see if there's one in particular hogging the cpu
[06:40] <Count> there isn't
[06:40] <Count> if there ever is, it's firefox
[06:40] <Captain_Haddock> try opening one of the problematic programs and then check
[06:41] <Count> yeah, nothing hogs the cpu
[06:42] <Count> what will happen though, if I use the 'System Monitor' that is similar to windows task manager
[06:42] <Count> I will see multiples of one program
[06:42] <Count> like konsole 5 times
[06:43] <Count> or kdesu 5-10 times
[06:43] <Count> bash sometimes multiple times
[06:44] <Captain_Haddock> do you have a .kde and .kde4 directory in ~?
[06:44] <Count> yes
[06:45] <Captain_Haddock> Count: rename them both to .kde.bak and .kde4.bak (you will lose all your personal kde customisations temporarily) and then log out and log back in. I guess you could instead try to create a temporary new user and use that account instead as well.
[06:46] <Count> alright
[06:47] <Count> ok, renamed, logging out
[06:48] <Count> alright, logged back in
[06:50] <Captain_Haddock> do you have new .kde* directories?
[06:50] <Count> yes
[06:50] <Count> both .kde and .kde4
[06:51] <Captain_Haddock> and the hanging?
[06:51] <Okay> how come wifi doesn't work on my laptop?
[06:51] <Count> tried open office, same result
[06:52] <Count> the hanging actually seems like it might be worse
[06:53] <Okay> Count, go try ubuntu 9.04
[06:53] <Okay> it's much better
[06:53] <Captain_Haddock> lovely
[06:53] <Count> :/
[06:53] <Count> I was thinking of upgrading, but I can't do it on my internet connection
[06:54] <Captain_Haddock> Count: I agree with that - I think upgrading to jaunty is your best bet if you want to retain kde4.
[06:54] <Count> I don't care about retaining kde4
[06:54] <Count> it's just that I'm kind of stuck with kde4 if kde3.5 essentially isn't working
[06:54] <Captain_Haddock> Count: you can just download the alternate ISO and use that to upgrade.
[06:55] <Count> er, I download things at 30kb/s
[06:55] <Captain_Haddock> Count: what happens when you try apt-get remove kdebase-kde4 ?
[06:55] <Okay> Captain_Haddock, yup, wifi didn't work with kubuntu and ubuntu did its job
[06:55] <Count> with a 10gb monthly download cap
[06:55] <Okay> Count, order free ubuntu cds
[06:56] <Count> nah, I have access to a better computer connection if I need to upgrade
[06:56] <Count> I just need to arrange it
[06:56] <Captain_Haddock> Count: you can just download the CD overnight.. I don't have all that faster a connection... (no data caps though)
[06:56] <Captain_Haddock> what happens when you try apt-get remove kdebase-kde4 ?
[06:57] <Count> it wants to remove all of the kde4 programs
[06:58] <Captain_Haddock> Count: you could give it a try, disable the backports repository and try to recover 3.5... no idea what will happen though
[06:58] <Count> it's not worth it
[06:58]  * Captain_Haddock is all out of ideas.
[06:58] <Count> either I'll upgrade, live with it how it is, which I've done for a few months
[06:58] <Count> or I'll switch over to gnome
[06:58] <Okay> Captain_Haddock, /away
[06:59] <Captain_Haddock> good luck with it
[06:59] <Captain_Haddock> Okay: ?
[06:59] <Count> thank you Captain_Haddock, for all of the help
[06:59] <Captain_Haddock> you're welcome :)
[07:42] <phuk> vvgh
[07:57] <victor__> :D
[08:30] <p-f> Has anyone else here experienced rendering problems in Matlab on kubuntu? Any 3d figure ends up with a black background and some ghost versions of itself when I rotate it. Pretty much all text also gets garbled. I'm guessing it may be a driver issue, but I'm not sure.
[08:35] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu.
[08:37] <ThatGuyOverThere> I tried going "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and the terminal gave me this. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:41] <leaf-sheep> ThatGuyOverThere: Close Update-Manager or any windows that may be using administration-level power.
[08:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> 'Kay, thanks.
[08:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> I tried logging out and logging back in, but I guess that didn't do it.
[08:45] <leaf-sheep> ThatGuyOverThere: Do you ever know if you have admin power?  Were you able to install packages yourself or somebody set up the computer for you?
[08:45] <leaf-sheep> ThatGuyOverThere: Something is using the admin power or you don't have the admin power.  Either one.
[08:46] <ThatGuyOverThere> No, I set up the computer myself.
[08:46] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm an admin.
[08:46] <ThatGuyOverThere> I guess something must be running.
[08:48] <leaf-sheep> ThatGuyOverThere: The fast workaround would be restart.  The slow workaround would be finding out what is using the sudo power.
[08:48] <ThatGuyOverThere> A reboot should do it. I just didn't feel like waiting.
[08:52] <j> is kubuntu going to overwrite my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:57] <leaf-sheep> j: Don't hold me on this, but I don't think it will.  Just in case, copy the file for backup if it's that important to you.  I doubt it myself though.
[08:58] <j> yeah, i have everything working now, would hate to just lose it b/c network manager had some other place it reads from.  i have it backed up, just wanted to see if i needed to maybe disable it...?
[08:58] <j> has all my essid, key's , etc
[09:00] <leaf-sheep> j: The way I see it, KDE is a desktop environment, nothing more.
[09:01] <j> i would hope so, but not too sure, i haven't really used any desktop environments with linux until today....
[09:55] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[10:37] <tomdavidson> hello, im using kubuntu-backports with juanty. i like, other than openoffice cant save files, kontact does not start, and i have 15 blacked software updates. I would like to run the software updates. any ideas?
[10:37] <ThatGuyOverThere> Umm... My panel and all my widgets are the wrong colors. Like, the colors are inverted.
[10:38] <ThatGuyOverThere> What the heck?
[10:38] <tomdavidson> havent seen that b4...  is it just plasma or everything?
[10:39] <ThatGuyOverThere> I think it's just plasma
[10:39] <ThatGuyOverThere> The background and all the windows seem normal.
[10:40] <ThatGuyOverThere> It's on a PS3, if that makes a difference. I think I read about someone else having a similar problem, but the search isn't going so well.
[10:41] <tomdavidson> i would guess its not hardware or an xserver config issue or everthing would be messed up. you've restarted kdm?
[10:41] <ThatGuyOverThere> I haven't yet. Maybe that'll do it.
[10:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, hope it works, but I'm giving up for tonight. It's 2:40 where I am. Sleep time. :}
[10:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> Thanks, bye.
[10:42] <tomdavidson> good luck
[10:45] <tomdavidson> anyone have any insights in my blocked software updates issue?
[11:39] <CptnAwesome> whats a nice text editor for kde/ubuntu that can works nicely with html/php etc?
[11:39] <phh> vim ?
[11:40] <CptnAwesome> im thinking something a little more graphical
[11:40] <phh> gvim ? :D
[11:40] <phh> kate or kdevelop maybe
[11:40] <CptnAwesome> hrmmm never tried kdevelop.
[11:40] <CptnAwesome> might give it a whirl
[11:40] <CptnAwesome> thanks =)
[11:42] <CptnAwesome> hrmmm kdevelop needs to download 49mb of files and will use 124mb of hard disk space
[11:43] <p-f> that's only twice as large as emacs
[11:43] <p-f> except your left pinky won't have RSI after a few months of use
[11:44] <CptnAwesome> hehe seems a little huge, i take it that its a little more then JUST a text editor?
[11:44] <phh> well
[11:44] <phh> it's not just a text editor.
[11:44] <phh> it's an IDE
[11:45] <CptnAwesome> so it will do nice syntax highlighting for html & php etc?
[11:45] <p-f> if you just want syntax highlighting, you could go for something more lightweight like kate or even vim
[11:46] <CptnAwesome> got kate, it was only a few mb
[11:46] <p-f> I hope you're more lucky than I
[11:46] <p-f> it crashes on exit and doesn't save its configuration file before crashing
[11:48] <CptnAwesome> ohh isnt a standard kubuntu package? or am i thinking of something else?
[11:48] <CptnAwesome> (i didnt install kubuntu, hence i didnt get the default text editors)
[11:49] <phh> i think it's a standard one yes
[11:53] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: kdevelop is not *just* a text editor :)
[11:54] <Mamarok> install kate
[11:54] <Mamarok> which is the standard on Kubuntu, which will also come when you install the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:55] <Mamarok> p-f: you might have the wrong version then
[11:55] <CptnAwesome> i did minimal cli + kde4
[11:55] <p-f> Mamarok, 3.2.2
[11:55] <p-f> Mamarok, which one do you have?
[11:56] <CptnAwesome> 3.2.2 here and i installed it from apt-get just a few mins ago
[11:56] <Mamarok> you should upgrade your KDE, there are bugfixes available, see the topic about KDE 4.2.4
[11:57] <Mamarok> p-f: 3.2.2 is buggy, bug solved in 3.2.4
[11:57] <p-f> Mamarok, buggy is an understatement
[11:57] <p-f> Mamarok, thanks, I'll try the latest then :)
[12:03] <Mamarok> p-f: no, buggy is exactly what it says :)
[12:17] <p-f> Mamarok, äh, still crashes on exit
[12:17] <p-f> Mamarok, or it doesn't save the configuration properly
[12:19] <Mamarok> p-f: I can't test, I have no 4.2.4 anymore here
[12:19] <Mamarok> p-f: try deleting the config file for kate
[12:22] <p-f> Mamarok, well, the kde crash handler came up this time
[12:25] <BCMM> anyone know anything about installing a proper distribution on an eeepc?
[12:26] <BCMM> i'm looking at the partitioning scheme for sda and there are four partitions, including at fat 32 and an "EFI" one
[12:26] <BCMM> do i need to keep those if i install kubuntu?
[12:28] <phh> only the EFI
[12:28] <phh> still you can drop them all, but the boot will be slower
[12:28] <BCMM> what is the fat32 partition for?
[12:28] <BCMM> actually, what is the EFI for?
[12:28] <BCMM> and does it require strange bootloader configuration?
[12:28] <phh> the "bios" uses  the EFI partition
[12:28] <phh> FAT32 i don't know
[12:29] <phh> no problem with the bootloader
[12:29] <BCMM> and does anyone have any advice on how to boot up a kubuntu "live cd" on it?
[12:29] <BCMM> (through usb, presumably, although i could do netboot)
[12:29] <phh> use an usbkey or an usb CD reader ...
[12:32] <phh> you can use netbootin to make an usb bootable
[12:32] <BCMM> it seems the eee can boot over the network; does anyone have any advice on booting kubuntu that way?
[13:09] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents I am having the damndest trouble with x-win like I've never had before and am not sure what to do next.  I have an idea but need to know how to log in using the kernel previous to kernel update I think I just did.
[13:11] <Dragnslcr> You can select it from the grub menu
[13:27] <compilerwriter> when one does a kernel upgrade in ubuntu is the old kernel still availiable for use?
[13:28] <raviraj> how to unlock dpkg?
[13:28] <compilerwriter> !dpkg
[13:28] <raviraj> yes
[13:28] <compilerwriter> !dpkg help
[13:29] <compilerwriter> sorry raviraj I can't remember how to get ubottu to tell you how.  Give me a few minutes and I might be able to think of it.
[13:29] <raviraj> i was installing sun java but it was not installed , but i again try it shows message that "dpkg is locked"
[13:30] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix raviraj
[13:30] <Dragnslcr> Bah
[13:30] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix | raviraj
[13:32] <compilerwriter> Thanks Dragnslcr I couldn
[13:32] <compilerwriter> remember to save my life
[13:33] <compilerwriter> raviraj that is what you are looking for.
[13:39] <compilerwriter> Dragnslcr: do you know if when one does an upgrade of the kernel if the old kernel still remains to be used?
[13:39] <ioan> yes -it can be used
[13:40] <ioan> but it can be also removed
[13:43] <ioan> the old kernel have to be removed by you if you want it compilerwriter
[13:44] <compilerwriter> How would one find out which kernels are availiable to him ioan?
[13:45] <ioan> they appears in grub at boot time
[13:46] <ioan> i mean wich kernel is already installed
[13:46] <compilerwriter> so if I have only one and then a recovery of the same version I have only one kernel installed on my machine?
[13:46] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, ive installed minimal/cli and added kde4 and a few other small apps, and my systems run horribly slow, i have modest hardware (dual core 1.6ghz, 1gb ram, 160gb hdd) is there a doc somewhere that might help me speed things up?
[13:47] <compilerwriter> I am having nvidia problems ioan.
[13:47] <ioan> yes compilerwriter
[13:47] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: you should disable the Desktop Effects you do not use
[13:47] <compilerwriter> Things went horribly wrong when I tried to upgrade to Jaunty.  Found out that my machines video card is not supported by the driver that Jaunty wants to use for xwin.
[13:48] <Mamarok> also, with a 160 gb Hard disk, you should install a full KDE, I am pretty sure if you run a full version it will run smoother
[13:48] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: did you run KDE4 previousley?
[13:49] <Mamarok> -e
[13:49] <compilerwriter> ioan So I did a backup and clean install of Ibex on my box got nvidia working almost as it did before.  I did some upgrades that were availiable and now nvidia doesn't want to work so very well anymore.
[13:49] <CptnAwesome> i have run it in the past, but had similar issues, so i went to xfce and was happy with that, it just didnt look as nice
[13:49] <compilerwriter> ioan I then downloaded and installed the latest driver from nvidia and now I can only get x to start if I use the command startx.
[13:50] <ioan> compilerwriter: go to System->Hardware drivers to see if you can enable a proprietary nvidia driver -if not you have to download and run the driver for nvidia site
[13:50] <compilerwriter> I am utilizing the x driver or was at last attempt but some of x isn't working properly.
[13:51] <compilerwriter> Very frustrating for me I have come to depend upon kmymoney2
[13:52] <wir> Hi everybody
[13:52] <ioan> compilerwriter: did you enabled the proprietary nvidia driver from the hardware drivers -is the easiest way
[13:52] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: but do you have older KDE configuration files still in your ~/.kde/ folder?
[13:53] <CptnAwesome> no this is a fresh install.
[13:53] <compilerwriter> I tried ioan but could not get the job done.  I had to use nvidia-xconfig from konsole.
[13:53] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: no idea, runs smoothly here, but I have more ram
[13:54] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: maybe disable the desktop effects, this can slow considerably
[13:54] <ioan> what video card do you have compilerwriter?
[13:55] <compilerwriter> GeForce MX 420
[13:55] <donald_> asdù
[13:56] <compilerwriter> ioan I am using nvidia 96.xx.13 from the nvidia site.
[13:56] <ioan> hmm -i have a mx 440 and it works fine for me -
[13:56] <compilerwriter> It works in Jaunty ioan?
[13:57] <ioan> yes compilerwriter
[13:57] <compilerwriter> How did you get it working?
[13:58] <ioan> i didn't have to download the driver from nvidia -i just enabled as i told you and it seems to work fine
[13:59] <compilerwriter> Well those are the breaks I suppose.
[13:59] <raviraj> synaptic package manager showing error could not apply chnages fix broken package first
[13:59] <CptnAwesome> Mamarok, i dont normally enable any desktop effects, maybe a little transparancy, but other then that nothing fancy.
[14:00] <ioan> but you can use the newest driver from nvidia -i used to install it last year in debian compilerwriter
[14:00] <ioan> and is easy
[14:01] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: the mere fact that you have the Desktop Effects eanbled, even if you don't run them, can eat up your ram
[14:01] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: your swap is double of the RAM, right?
[14:01] <CptnAwesome> i left it as the default of the installer which was, from memory 512, so no, its half..... should i increase it?
[14:02] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: below 2 Mb ram your Swap space should be double size of the ram, indeed, that might explain your slowness problems
[14:03] <CptnAwesome> hrmmm i should be able to resize without killing my install?
[14:03] <Mamarok> I have 4 Gb of Ram and merely use 2Gb of Swap, but below that you definitely should have double
[14:03]  * CptnAwesome needs more ram....
[14:03] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: well, not in KDE for sure, and you need to resize the swap partition, which might be a tad tricky to acheive
[14:04] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: do you have your /home on a different partition from /?
[14:04] <CptnAwesome> yeah i do
[14:04] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: then simply reinstall, that's probably the easiest way, just don't touch /home when doing so
[14:05] <devilsadvocate_> 4g of ram -> you should never even be _touching_ swap
[14:05] <Captain_Haddock> Mamarok: can't he check how much of his swap is being used when he's experiencing slowness?
[14:06] <Mamarok> Captain_Haddock: why? 1 Gb ram and only 512 Mb swap is definitely not enough
[14:06] <Mamarok> it will be swapping all the time anyway
[14:07] <Captain_Haddock> Mamarok: either way, it might be worth ascertaining the reason behind the slowness prior to something as drastic as a reinstall
[14:07] <Mamarok> Captain_Haddock: the do so if you want, the fastest way definitely is a reinstall
[14:08] <ioan> take a look at system monitor if you have it installed to know how much memory do you use
[14:08] <Captain_Haddock> CptnAwesome: ^^
[14:10] <Captain_Haddock> CptnAwesome: besides the system monitor, have a look at "htop" as well.
[14:11] <Mamarok> CptnAwesome: which you have to install, ksysguard is a GUI alternative btw
[14:11] <CptnAwesome> hrmm the system monitor says i have 2.5gb of swap.... maybe i did increase it
[14:11] <Mamarok> :)
[14:12] <CptnAwesome> says im using 274mb of 843mb ram and 0gb or 2.5gb swap =(
[14:12] <CptnAwesome> 0.24gb of 0.84gb ram i should have said
[14:13] <CptnAwesome> cpu load is at about 4%
[14:13] <Captain_Haddock> CptnAwesome: check it when your system is sluggish
[14:14] <CptnAwesome> i will keep an eye on it, see how it goes, maybe i will just bite the bullet and whack as much ram in the old girl as i can afford =)
[14:14] <devilsadvocate_> Mamarok, 1 gb ram is enough for most people
[14:15] <devilsadvocate_> CptnAwesome, are you doing a lot of disk or network io?
[14:16] <CptnAwesome> not at the moment, i have shut down everything except xchat and the sysmon.
[14:16] <CptnAwesome> i'll keep an eye on it and see how i go.
[14:16] <CptnAwesome> thanks for your help
[14:17] <devilsadvocate_> CptnAwesome, if its sluggish and ram and cpu usage are low, its almost always some sort of disk io hangup. if you see the X process taking up insane cpu then it might be a driver issue (some intel drivers caused that on some hw when 9.04 came out)
[14:18] <CptnAwesome> hrmm good to know, ill keep that in mind when im checking it out =)
[14:18] <devilsadvocate_> CptnAwesome, i have on occasion faced some really wierd sluggishness due to pidgin, and sometimes quassel.
[14:18] <CptnAwesome> thanks again and good night =)
[14:18] <Captain_Haddock> speaking of which, why did KDE ditch konversation in favour of quassel?
[14:19] <devilsadvocate_> konversation hasnt been ported yet, and kubuntu switched - i dont think kde switched
[14:19] <devilsadvocate_> and quassel is nice, tbh. not yet feature complete, though
[14:21] <Captain_Haddock> I see. I quite like konversation myself - don't want to see it going down the drain
[14:21] <Captain_Haddock> I haven't really used quassel yet, but I'm already biased against it for some reason :S
[14:22] <ioan> i'm using quassel for few days and i like it
[14:32] <Dragnslcr> There's a KDE4 version of Konversation, it just wasn't ready for the 9.04 release
[14:35] <Captain_Haddock> Dragnslcr: is it available in the backports or someplace?
[14:35] <Captain_Haddock> still in alpha it seems
[14:37] <Dragnslcr> !info konversation-kde4
[14:37] <Captain_Haddock> Konversation 1.2-alpha4 has been released! (July 4th, 2009)
[14:38] <Dragnslcr> !info konversation
[14:41] <Dragnslcr> Captain_Haddock- it's in either backports or kubuntu-ppa (wish I could figure out which one the package came from)
[14:48] <bernardlychan> hey guys how
[14:48] <bernardlychan> longs a ban
[14:48] <bernardlychan> how long is a ban?
[14:48] <Mamarok> bernardlychan: that depends, but this shouldn't been asked here, but in the #ubuntu-ops channel
[14:49] <Mamarok> it has nothing to do with support
[14:49] <bernardlychan> ok
[14:49] <bernardlychan> sorry
[14:50] <Dragnslcr> Considering why you were banned, I'd expect it to be permanent
[14:51] <Mamarok> Dragnslcr: this is matter for the ops anyway, not a support question
[14:51] <paddy_melon> huh
[14:53] <paddy_melon> hey guys
[14:53] <paddy_melon> wats up round here
[14:54] <Mamarok> paddy_melon: do you have a question?
[14:56] <benny_> anyone who use kubuntu
[14:56] <benny_> can create Asp pages here
[14:56] <Mamarok> benny_: well, this is the Kubuntu support channel, just ask
[14:56] <Mamarok> and asp pages are a Microsoft specific stuff, not Kubuntu related
[14:58] <benny_> how if i create an application like webpages using online solution can kubuntu
[14:59] <Mamarok> benny_: could you rephrase that, please?
[15:00] <Mamarok> benny_: active server pages are Microsoft webserver specific pages, Linux doesn't use MS servers, but Apache as default webserver, like more than 50% of the webservers in the world
[15:01] <Mamarok> benny_: this might help:
[15:01] <Mamarok> !lamp | benny_
[15:05] <darthanubis> Kubuntu forums look nice, but content is weak
[15:07] <ugur> hi all i have problem about memory usage pattern in kubuntu or linux i dont know
[15:07] <ugur> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7646128 is the related thread
[15:08] <ugur> is there anyone who can give me an answer about it
[15:08] <darthanubis> ugur: don't hold your breath
[15:09] <Mamarok> ugur: you got a good answer in that forum post, didn't you?
[15:11] <ugur> no
[15:12] <ugur> i think i was misunderstood
[15:12] <ugur> i want the os not to waste half of the RAM to cache but use it for new applications
[15:14] <ugur> actually i am a computer engineer and i know how the swapping works
[15:14] <ugur> but i dont understand why linux hadles it the way it is now
[15:16] <Mamarok> ugur: that's a question you should ask the guys who do the memory management, hence the kernel people
[15:16] <ugur> you mean to linux.org?
[15:17] <ugur> i don't exactly know who can answer this question
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:17] <Mamarok> ugur: more the kernel mailing list I would say
[15:17] <ugur> hmm ok i will search more about it
[15:18] <ugur> thanks
[15:18] <Mamarok> ugur: you are welcome :)
[15:18] <ugur> so it is not about my installation and a general issue in linux kernel you say right?
[15:19] <ugur> i thought if there is a swappiness parameter then there may be another for caching also
[15:19] <mot> swappiness?
[15:19] <mot> o ne demek? :P
[15:20] <ugur> bilmiyorsan boşver
[15:20] <Mamarok> English, please
[15:20] <mot> biliyom ama swappiness kelime degil ;)
[15:20] <mot> Mamarok, mmhmm
[15:21] <mot> anyways
[15:21] <mot> bbl, gym time
[15:21] <Mamarok> !tr | mot, ugur
[15:21] <mot> Mamarok, enough, i got it.
[15:21] <BluesKaj> wth was that?
[15:21] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: ?
[15:21] <mot> BlueEagle, *gasp* people speak more than just english.
[15:22] <ugur> i just don't bother to mot thats all
[15:22] <BluesKaj> nm Mamarok , i got it
[15:22] <ugur> said
[15:22] <Mamarok> mot: this channel is for English only, so please respect that
[15:22] <mot> fair enough.
[15:22] <ugur> sorry
[15:22] <ugur> bye
[15:23] <Mamarok> bye ugur
[15:23] <BluesKaj> mot, yeah , i also speak swedish and french , altho my written swedish kinda sucks
[15:24] <mot> BluesKaj, yea i was just being facetious
[15:24] <mot> most americans tend to get all butt-hurt when they see/hear people speaking another language.
[15:24] <mot> it assaults their little "bubble"
[15:25] <BluesKaj> <--not american
[15:25] <Mamarok> mot: also, this is a support only channel, discussion should go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:25] <mot> i just assumed you were american :P sorry
[15:25] <BluesKaj> mot, it's ok
[15:38] <derrick__> Hi - got a dumb question about my home network, not sure if it's even a Ubuntu issue
[15:39] <derrick__> I can ping to my Ubuntu computer over my Linksys router, but telnetting, ssh, ftp, etc. just times out. Is it a Linksys problem or a Ubuntu configuration issue?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> derrick__, there are no dumb questions ... some answers on the other hand ...   :P
[15:39] <derrick__> Truly appreciate it! There is probably a FAQ somewhere which describes my problem to exact detail
[15:39] <ikonia> derrick__: a service has to be listening on the box
[15:40] <BluesKaj> derrick__, are you ssh-ing in windows
[15:45] <derrick__> Actually on Macintosh OSX
[15:46] <derrick__> If I type 'ssh localhost' on my Ubuntu box I can connect to my SSH client
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> What address are you using to connect from the OSX box?
[15:47] <derrick__> It happens to be '192.168.1.101'
[15:48] <derrick__> I can ping to it
[15:48] <derrick__> Maybe it's a firewall configuration issue on Ubuntu?
[15:49] <Dragnslcr> Could be
[15:50] <Dragnslcr> Might also check /etc/ssh/sshd_config to make sure you aren't restricting what address the sshd is listening on
[15:50] <derrick__> Just wondering if it's at all possible it could be the router. I could swap it out for a different brand, but maybe it's not going to do anything different
[15:50] <derrick__> Good idea, looking at that now
[15:51] <Dragnslcr> "netstat -alt" can also show you if it's listening on the right address and port
[15:51] <Dragnslcr> Might also try "ssh 192.168.1.101" from the Ubuntu box
[15:52] <derrick__> netstat -alt shows me this: tcp        0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[15:52] <derrick__> THat's good, right?
[15:53] <derrick__> I can connect ssh 192.168.1.101 on my Ubuntu box, no problem
[15:56] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, looks fine on that end
[15:56] <Dragnslcr> Could be some configuration problem with the router
[15:57] <derrick__> Ok, well I will just swap out the router with a friend's and see what happens. Truly appreciate your help!
[15:59] <Dragnslcr> "sudo iptables -L" should tell you if there's some firewall rule blocking connections
[16:00] <derrick__> Good show - trying that
[16:00] <Dragnslcr> Might be worth checking the files in /var/log too. Try connecting from the OSX box, then do "ls -altr /var/log" (the most recently changed files will be last)
[16:03] <|PaperTiger|> Can someone name a good instant messenger to use, apart from Pigin
[16:03] <|PaperTiger|> pidgin*
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> |PaperTiger|- well, Kopete is the normal IM program for KDE
[16:04] <|PaperTiger|> Dragnslcr, what's it like to use? 'cos Pidgin keeps closing for me
[16:05] <Dragnslcr> It's worked well for me for a couple years
[16:05] <|PaperTiger|> What you use now?
[16:06] <zerrku> guys can someone help me ? i have problem with internet configs ... :S
[16:08] <zerrku> can someone help me ? i have some problems with internet configs ... im using linux for furst time xD
[16:08] <BluesKaj> zerrku, widget-network-manager?
[16:08] <zerrku> it is puting automatic ip and i cant change it
[16:08] <zerrku> im using 2 lan cards ..
[16:09] <tangent3> anyone found the best way to get firefox 3.5 installed? I trued ubuntuzilla and it's giving me an ugly gtk theme despite having setup for gtk-qt-engine
[16:11] <ioan> tangent3 -i have firefox 3.5 installed using synaptic
[16:12] <Dragnslcr> tangent3- just install it from the repositories
[16:12] <Dragnslcr> !info firefox-3.5
[16:12] <zerrku> guys can someone help me ? im using linux for first time and i have some problems .
[16:12] <tangent3> ok thanks
[16:12] <tangent3> guess i'll just have to live with the shireteko name
[16:13] <zerrku> damn .. it looks all hate newbies here =[
[16:14] <runlevelten> zerrku: that's a strange conclusion to jump to, if you ask your question somebody may answer it
[16:14]  * runlevelten does some work
[16:14] <zerrku> lol
[16:14] <zerrku> so it sounds strange but i dont have real internet .. im using 2 lan cards and i cant do configs
[16:14] <zerrku> i have only irc and local internet
[16:14] <ioan> zerrku: try system ->network
[16:15] <zerrku> it doesnt give me to click on apply when i make my changes
[16:15] <zerrku> when i make the connection and try to connect --> nothing happened.
[16:16] <tangent3> zerrku: can you open a terminal and enter: ifconfig
[16:16] <zerrku> w8
[16:16] <zerrku> zerrku@zerrku:~$ ipconfig
[16:16] <zerrku> bash: ipconfig: command not found
[16:16] <zerrku> zerrku@zerrku:~$
[16:16] <tangent3> ifconfig, this isn't windows :D
[16:17] <zerrku> so how i can change my ip adress ?
[16:17] <tangent3> type ifconfig, not ipconfig
[16:17] <zerrku> lol
[16:17] <zerrku> my bad
[16:18] <zerrku> inet addr:10.10.28.143
[16:18] <zerrku> here it is
[16:18] <zerrku> how i can change that
[16:18] <tangent3> you don't have dhcp running on your network, i assume?
[16:18] <zerrku> what do u mean with dhcp ?
[16:19] <tangent3> that's ip auto configuration
[16:19] <tangent3> you're supposed to use a static ip?
[16:19] <zerrku> yea
[16:19] <zerrku> ..
[16:19] <zerrku> with this ip now i have local internet and dont know how im connected to irc
[16:19] <zerrku> it is so strange xD
[16:19] <zerrku> so how i can put my static ip to the configs ?
[16:21] <zerrku> tangent3: any ideas ?
[16:21] <tangent3> there are two ways, one is to edit in knetworkmanager, and the other is to edit in /etc/system/interfaces
[16:22] <tangent3> i'm not sure which is the recommended method though
[16:22] <tangent3> can you surf webpages?
[16:22] <zerrku> nope
[16:23] <zerrku> lol i dont have system folter in etc
[16:23] <zerrku> :D
[16:24] <ioan> zerrku: the best gui tool to do that is using System-> network -unlock using your password and entering the ip
[16:25] <tangent3> sorry /etc/network/interfaces
[16:25] <zerrku> ioan: when i change it i cant use it
[16:26] <zerrku> tangent3:  in interfaces is writen this :
[16:26] <zerrku> auto lo
[16:26] <zerrku> iface lo inet loopback
[16:26] <zerrku> what i must do ?
[16:26] <FloodBotK2> zerrku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <zerrku> tangent3:  are u still there ?
[16:28] <Ing_mauricio_> hello, I have kmlmonkey but i doesnt connect
[16:29] <Ing_mauricio_> anyone knows this roblem
[16:32] <iamarto> I need some help.
[16:32] <Guest80736> yes
[16:32] <iamarto> Transmission software on Ubuntu does not Upload... only Downloads.
[16:32] <iamarto> THe port forwarding is Open,
[16:32] <iamarto> is there anything I can do to make it UPload?
[16:33] <zerrku> guys what i must write in interfaces to put my static ip on ?
[16:33] <iamarto> nobody is here to help..
[16:34] <zerrku> ..
[16:39] <zerrku> can someone help me ? i have problem with ip configs  .,  i cant put my static ip .
[16:40] <DaskreeCH> zerrku: Which release of Kubuntu >
[16:40] <zerrku> i think it must be the lastest
[16:40] <zerrku> i just downloaded it from the official website
[16:41] <zerrku> im using first time linux xD
[16:41] <Xnet0_> zerkku, 9.04 maybe??
[16:41] <zerrku> Xnet0_:  yea it is 9.04
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> zerrku: ok Welcome to Linux and Kubuntu :)
[16:41] <zerrku> tnx =)
[16:41] <zerrku> so can i get some help here ?
[16:41] <zerrku> :)
[16:41] <Xnet0_> yes! linux is the way of the future!!! small kernels rule!
[16:42] <Xnet0_> sure what do you need?
[16:42] <zerrku> i cant make my ip configs
[16:42] <zerrku> when i put them
[16:42] <zerrku> cant connect
[16:42] <Xnet0_> im not sure what your asking??
[16:42] <zerrku> cant explane
[16:42] <Xnet0_> are you doing work with ifconfig??
[16:42] <zerrku> i just cant turn on my internet
[16:42] <zerrku> i can connect here
[16:43] <zerrku> and i have local i-net only
[16:43] <zerrku> the linux is puting me another ip that i cant change
[16:43] <Xnet0_> hmm........
[16:43] <Xnet0_> not sure
[16:43] <zerrku> it isnt my i ip  i mean ..
[16:43] <Xnet0_> this is a direct connection.. just as a browser..
[16:43] <Xnet0_> thats weird that you cannot connect..
[16:43] <Xnet0_> try this..
[16:44] <Xnet0_> "telnet www.google.ca 80" type this in console. Then type "GET" after this has completed.
[16:44] <Xnet0_> tell me waht your results in the terminal are
[16:45] <zerrku> Connected to www.l.google.com.
[16:45] <zerrku> Escape character is '^]'.
[16:45] <Xnet0_> kknowe type GET
[16:45] <zerrku> but im not with my static ip .. cant explane
[16:45] <Xnet0_> "GET"
[16:45] <zerrku> oh w8 my bad
[16:46] <zerrku> ill show u on pm what the console says
[16:46] <Xnet0_> if you recieve a page of html code, than you have been accepted by the servers.. and should have no problem with connectivity
[16:46] <zerrku> yea i have
[16:46] <zerrku> html code
[16:46] <Xnet0_> kk
[16:46] <zerrku> but i cant use real internet
[16:46] <Xnet0_> you should be fine thenn...
[16:46] <Xnet0_> that is the internet
[16:46] <zerrku> hm let me to try to explane
[16:47] <Xnet0_> you yourself are acting as your own personal browser...May be browser problems....try mozilla firefox and Konqueror
[16:47] <zerrku> no look
[16:47] <zerrku> i cant put my ip
[16:47] <zerrku> if im not with my ip
[16:47] <zerrku> i cant open websites
[16:47] <zerrku> it is somethin like internet security of my internet server
[16:47] <mot> lol what?
[16:48] <Xnet0_> that  makes no sense..
[16:48] <Xnet0_> lol
[16:48] <zerrku> i have bad english sorry cant explane better ;[
[16:48] <mot> you're using kubuntu right?
[16:48] <mot> okay
[16:48] <zerrku> yea im using kubuntu .. how to change my ip configs
[16:48] <zerrku> that is the right question ..
[16:48] <mot> zerrku, you need to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand
[16:48] <zerrku> what i must write there ?
[16:48] <mot> well, you don't NEED to, but you can try that
[16:48] <Xnet0_> also try setting with ifconfig in the terminal
[16:48] <mot> type...
[16:49] <mot> in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:49] <mot> iface eth0 dhcp
[16:49] <DaskreeCH> zerrku: Which IP is it giving you?
[16:49] <mot> sorry
[16:49] <mot> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[16:49] <zerrku> 10.10.28.143
[16:49] <mot> mm you using dsl?
[16:50] <zerrku> nope
[16:50] <mot> what kind of router are you using?
[16:50] <zerrku> btw i cant change this file
[16:50] <runlevelten> 24~dhcp fail
[16:50] <zerrku> im not using router
[16:50] <zerrku> i have 2 lan cards
[16:50] <runlevelten> oopsy, no 24
[16:50] <Xnet0_> type ifconfig
[16:50] <Xnet0_> check your addresses
[16:50] <Xnet0_> tel me them/
[16:50] <DaskreeCH> zerrku: What are you using if not a rouer?
[16:50] <mot> 10.* is a local address
[16:50] <Xnet0_> then diable your card
[16:50] <mot> well, rather, 10.10.*
[16:50] <zerrku> DaskreeCH:  im using cable internet
[16:50] <runlevelten> what is supposed to be doing dhcp, zerrku ?
[16:51] <Xnet0_> ifconfig "here your nic card name" down, then do the same but with the up keyword
[16:51] <zerrku> runlevelten:  it is supposed to change my ip configs
[16:51] <runlevelten> zerrku: then you need to find out what ip your cable gives you and set it up manually
[16:51] <runlevelten> as well as any other details
[16:51] <mot> nevermind, i was wrong
[16:51] <mot> 10.10.28.143 is active
[16:51] <zerrku> yea
[16:51] <zerrku> i must make it 10.28.6.220
[16:51] <mot> why?
[16:52] <zerrku> cuz it is my static ip
[16:52] <zerrku> if i put it there
[16:52] <zerrku> ill have internet
[16:52] <FloodBotK2> zerrku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <zerrku> 30mb/s download
[16:52] <zerrku> =)
[16:52] <mot> stupid bot
[16:52] <zerrku> so how to change it any ideas ?
[16:52] <mot> do you want to manually set it?
[16:52] <mot> go to
[16:52] <zerrku> i cant write in interfaces
[16:52] <zerrku> mot go to .. ?
[16:52] <mot> you need to sudo in
[16:52] <mot> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[16:53] <Xnet0_> zerrku: as i stated before.. did you turn off your nic? and start it up again??
[16:53] <mot> now, you can't just "make" your IP whatever you want unless you have gateway and netmask information
[16:53] <mot> do you have gateway and netmask information?
[16:53] <zerrku> yea
[16:53] <mot> okay then
[16:53] <DaskreeCH> zerrku: can you type ifconfig and pastebin it
[16:53] <mot> do this: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[16:54] <mot> then type
[16:54] <BlueEagle> mot: *gasp* I did not know that. (read as: Happy tab complete day)
[16:54] <zerrku> what do u mean with "pastebin"
[16:54] <DaskreeCH>  !paste | zerrku
[16:54] <mot> iface eth0 inet static
[16:54] <mot> address YOUR-IP
[16:54] <mot> netmask YOUR_NETMASK
[16:54] <mot> gateway YOUR_GW
[16:54] <mot> then hit CTRL+O to save changes to the file, then CTRL+X to exit
[16:55] <mot> then type: sudo ifdown eth0
[16:55] <mot> and then: sudo ifup eth0
[16:55] <zerrku> mot
[16:55] <mot> then try to ping google or something
[16:55] <mot> BlueEagle, what?
[16:55] <zerrku> what about dns server ?
[16:55] <mot> you don't have to input dns the interface config will utilize whatever is provided by your gw
[16:58] <mot> any luck?
[17:00] <zerrku_> im back and i still dont have internet ;[
[17:00] <zerrku_> the ip isnt changed
[17:00] <mot> then eth0 isn't the card you have plugged into the "internet"
[17:00] <mot> type: sudo ifconfig
[17:00] <mot> and paste the results to pastebin.ca
[17:00] <Xnet0_> omg finally you guys listen!
[17:00] <zerrku_> mot: cant open pastebin
[17:01] <Xnet0_> ifconfig will solve all of you problems!(hopefully)
[17:01] <zerrku_> dont havei nternet
[17:01] <zerrku_> xD
[17:01] <mot> okay, type ifconfig anyway
[17:01] <mot> what are the names of the interfaces?
[17:01] <mot> (the values on the far left of each major entry)
[17:01] <mot> should be like eth0, eth1, loopback?
[17:01] <mot> wait.
[17:01] <zerrku_> eth0 eth1 lo
[17:02] <zerrku_> so .. ?
[17:02] <mot> okay, go back to /etc/network/interfaces
[17:02] <mot> and replace 'eth0' with 'eth1'
[17:02] <mot> then save the file, and do: ifdown eth1
[17:02] <mot> then: ifup eth1
[17:02] <safak> sorry i am new about ubuntu so i have wanna learn how to play .avi with kaffeine ?pls
[17:03] <mot> you have your ethernet cable plugged into your 2nd nic card, (eth1) instead of your first (eth0) OR your bios is detecting them out of order OR linux is...
[17:03] <zerrku_> lol
[17:03] <mot> safak: get vlc instead: sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:03] <zerrku_> the interfaces are not saved.
[17:03] <mot> *sigh*
[17:03] <safak> it is doenst work i tried
[17:03] <mot> zerrku, open you're gonna open the interfaces file with nano
[17:03]  * Smurphy finds kaffeine one of the best multimedia players avail ...
[17:04] <mot> so type: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[17:04] <zerrku_> i must delete everything and fill it again
[17:04] <zerrku_> or i just must put my config
[17:04] <zerrku_> ?
[17:04] <mot> zerrku, listen to me
[17:04] <safak> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[17:04] <grinsekatze> hello
[17:04] <mot> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[17:04] <mot> then type...
[17:04] <mot> iface eth1 inet static
[17:04] <mot> address YOUR-IP
[17:04] <BluesKaj> safak, sudo aptitude install ffmpeg w32codecs kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:04] <mot> netmask YOUR-NETMASK
[17:05] <mot> gateway YOUR-GW
[17:05] <mot> also, about 'iface eth1 inet static'
[17:05] <Smurphy> safak: check in goodle for: "ubuntu perfect desktop" and pick your ubuntu version . kubuntu/ubuntu - and versio number, and follow that guide. Very nice and Detailed.
[17:05] <mot> put 'auto eth1'
[17:05] <mot> then hit CTRL + O to output/save the file. then hit CTRL + X to exit the file.
[17:05] <mot> sudo ifdown eth1
[17:05] <mot> then sudo ifup eth1
[17:05] <mot> then ping google.
[17:06] <zerrku_> mot is it CTRL + O or CTRL + zero ?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | safak
[17:07] <mot> "O" as in orange
[17:08] <safak> thaks a lot but my konsole doenst search on internet ist try to find in cd that so i cant install anything ?
[17:09] <mot> safak, what?
[17:09] <mot> safak, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[17:09]  * Smurphy thinkgs - safak has to disable CD device as source in synaptic/package manager
[17:10] <llutz> safak check yout sources.list
[17:10] <safak> 7.10
[17:10] <mot> safak
[17:10] <mot> oh snap man that's old.
[17:10] <mot> safak, type.... sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:10] <mot> and then go to the top and disable your CD-ROM repository
[17:12] <zerrku_> mot: stil the ip in the configs are not changed
[17:13] <zerrku_> in the file is changed but not in the configs ..
[17:13] <zerrku_> i must reboot maybe xD
[17:14] <mot> what?
[17:14] <mot> do you do ifdown eth1
[17:15] <mot> ifup eth1 ?
[17:15] <mot> the values in /etc/network/interfaces override the GUI-configs in kubuntu
[17:16] <apparle> please tell me the comparison between wubi and normal install
[17:19] <zerrku> my net still sucks ;[
[17:19] <BluesKaj> apparle, wubi installs kubuntu inside windows , a normal install gives you a choice of a much larger partition for the OS , whereas wubi restricts you to 30G . I believe that's a quick explanation.
[17:22] <apparle> actually I want a performance wise explanation.....................I
[17:22] <Smurphy> apparle: is a NTFS Filesystem performant ? Nope, So that's the performance answer :)
[17:23] <BlueEagle> mot: 16:21 < mot> BlueEagle, *gasp* people speak more than just english.
[17:23] <BlueEagle> mot: I'm just a tad slow.
[17:23] <mot> mmhmm
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BlueEagle, that was meant for me
[17:24] <Smurphy> But if you spoeak another language than english - the Channel police will show up and give you warnings up to throw you out of the channel ...
[17:24] <mot> i noticed.
[17:24] <mot> sounds quite jingoistic ;)
[17:24] <Smurphy>  mot; actually - it is ...
[17:24] <mot> well, i'd wager that most of the ops in here are american
[17:25] <mot> people in the US are weird about hearing foreign languages, they always thing someone's talking about them or some crap.
[17:25] <mot> it's quite arrogant, but what can you do?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> apparle, I have jaunty installed thru wubi on our laptop and it works very well , not slow at all if that's what you're asking
[17:25] <Smurphy> mot: Don't know. But if they don't understand it - I bet they think a consipration of some sort is going on - and bang - shoot before you can :D *rofl*
[17:25] <mot> yea pretty much
[17:26] <Smurphy> mot: Yep ...
[17:27] <apparle> does wubi suffer from performance impact in anything else other that HDD operations
[17:27] <Smurphy> apparle: not really. Only - if the Windows System screws, deletes some files - the linux install is gone too (eventually).
[17:28] <apparle> SO if my windows installtion is somehow affected by a virus ............then my linux installation may get damaged???
[17:30] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, apparle , I haven't had that happen yet but make sure you have good av and spyware protection
[17:30] <apparle> anyways..........................I am very very happy today...............just got my soundcard working through ALSA after 2 years of searching
[17:30] <combo> >> how to unrar many RAR achrives at once with console ?
[17:30] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Never use AV software - on Linux or windowx ...
[17:31] <llutz> combo: for rar in *.rar;do unrar x "$rar"; done
[17:31] <Smurphy> apparle: Whatever damages your windows partition may damage your linux data.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> I'm talking about windows , Smurphy
[17:31] <Captain_Haddock> mot: you're just being silly. When this channel is clearly English only, and there are dedicated channels for other languages, you should have the sense to redirect the turks to the turkish channel and help them there.
[17:31] <mot> Captain_Haddock, excuse me?
[17:32] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: yes. I don't have antivirus on my Windows machine. I only play with it. All work, E-Mail etc is done under linux or Mac OS-X.
[17:32] <Captain_Haddock> You seem to try to skin your anti-american cat every day ...
[17:32] <apparle> BluesKaj: what ever you do........................one day a virus will get you in windows..............................just use linux
[17:32] <mot> First off, I did redirect the guy to the turkish channel, even after we quit speaking Turkish people kept spamming !tr and going "HUH WHAT'S GOING ON?" like their heads were about to explode having heard a language other than English.
[17:32] <apparle> ok guys see you later
[17:32] <mot> Captain_Haddock, and no, I'm not being silly. I rarely talk in this channel and have forgotten how oft-condescending some of the ops and regulars can be.
[17:33] <mot> Yes, there is a tinge of jingoism in this channel and I stand by what I said.
[17:33] <eagles051387> !offtopic | mot
[17:33] <combo> llutz: works fine :) thx a lot :)
[17:33] <mot> However, you're about 15~ minutes late to the conversation, it's long been over.
[17:33]  * Smurphy support mopt in what he says ! Completely 
[17:33] <mot> This conversation is over, I have work to do.
[17:33] <Captain_Haddock> mot: That's just utter rubbish especially considering that I've seen you do this twice in two days :S
[17:34] <llutz> welcome
[17:34] <Smurphy> Captain_Haddock: So what ? What to do ? I speak 6 languages ? why should I limit myself to 1 ?
[17:34] <Captain_Haddock> If the conversation is over, please learn from it and stop yammering away in Turkish the next time somebody asks a question in Turkish... just type !tr or whatever and take it to the other channel.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> apparle, I have a windows partition because my friends depend on me for help when their pcs crash or become infected, so I try to keep up with what's happening , but my primary setup is linux
[17:34] <Captain_Haddock> Smurphy: take it to the appropriate channel.. I speak 9 languages myself... and no I'm not a yank.
[17:34] <DaskreeCH> Captain_Haddock, mot: Take it to fftopic
[17:34] <mot> Captain_Haddock, no you haven't. I made the mistake yesterday and was corrected. You want to know what I told the guy today? To go to the Turkish channel.
[17:34] <Smurphy> mot: as I said. Once you start - the channel police shows up ...
[17:35] <mot> Alright I'm done here.
[17:35] <mot> This is simply obnoxious
[17:35] <llutz> hi bdgraue
[17:35]  * Smurphy thinks - some people don't even deserve an answer anymore ... <Ignoe mode on>
[17:35] <Captain_Haddock> the only one obnoxious is you and your daily anti-american diatribe.
[17:35] <DaskreeCH> Captain_Haddock: Stop it it's over
[17:36]  * Smurphy thinks - one day - the channel wars will come back.  I bet I still have some of my IRC War scripts haning around ... *dig*
[17:36] <bdgraue> hi llutz
[17:36] <Captain_Haddock> DaskreeCH: no worries.. he just keeps doing it again and again.
[17:36] <Smurphy> Captain_Haddock: Nope. The americans have done all to be treated that way... Sory about that, but they looked for it.
[17:36] <Captain_Haddock> hah
[17:37] <DaskreeCH> Smurphy: offtopic
[17:37]  * Smurphy is started to be prosecuted by the Local police ...
[17:37] <Smurphy> BTw  When did you folks start with linux ? How long do you know it ? Do you have the experience to have Op status on this channel ?
[17:38] <DaskreeCH> Well yes it's very distracting to have all this going on while trying to help someone that's the whole point of having different channels
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, you live in germany ... what's with the phony irish nick ?
[17:38] <Smurphy> Then help the people instead of going against them because theysaid something in the wrong language.
[17:38] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: and mot lives in the US :P
[17:39] <Captain_Haddock> couple of hypocrites.
[17:39] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:39] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Maybe ... Right now - I'm hanging in Zuerich. And the nick - was given me by some people a long time ago in tunisia @ School ... And now what ?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> someone gave you a nick so you can't change it ? gimmee a break
[17:40] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Nope - but most of my old friends know me by that Nick. BTW  how old are you ? 10 ?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> 11
[17:40] <BluesKaj> :)
[17:40] <Smurphy> my 4 year old daughter is BTW capable of holding more intelligent conversation topics ... *lol*
[17:41]  * BluesKaj waits for the offtopic cops
[17:41] <Smurphy> Don't worry 0 they'll come :)
[17:42] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, btw I've been insulted by more intelligent ppl than you
[17:42] <DaskreeCH> are you all still here?
[17:42] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: intelligent ? Who was talking about intelligent ?
[17:42] <DaskreeCH> PLEASE take it to offtopic
[17:43] <BluesKaj> hey DaskreeCH , this is fun
[17:44]  * Smurphy just discovered the Missing Link in Darvin's Theory of evolution of mankind ... 
[17:44] <DaskreeCH> I know it is and it's just as fun in Offtopic
[17:44] <MrHeavy> Hey, can anyone give me a hand getting Flash audio working in Jaunty?
[17:45] <DaskreeCH> Anyone who wants to follow it is already over there
[17:45] <Smurphy> MrHeavy: Check on Google for the "perfect desktop ubuntu" - it';s all in there
[17:46] <eagles051387> MrHeavy: just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras it has flash and all non free stuff
[17:46] <Smurphy> sorry - but offtopic is an unavailable channel Guess we'll have to contine in here :D *lol*
[17:46] <MrHeavy> I have Flash
[17:46] <MrHeavy> My sound doesn't work in it
[17:46] <MrHeavy> I suspect it's PulseAudio-related
[17:46] <zuz> hey guys, anyone know how to find out the system info
[17:46] <zuz> ?
[17:46] <Smurphy> zuz: define system info ?
[17:46] <eagles051387> Smurphy: no u dont #kubuntu-offtopic is the channel
[17:46] <zuz> i installed a new ram module on this laptop
[17:46] <Smurphy> ahhh
[17:47] <zuz> and wanted to know if its recognized
[17:47] <MrHeavy> I've tried running padevchooser and asoundconf-gtk to set my default output devices
[17:47] <MrHeavy> But Flash still gives me grief
[17:47] <Dragnslcr> zuz- more /proc/meminfo
[17:47] <kaddi> hi, FF isn't closing correctly. It keeps running after I hit the x, is there anything to fix this?
[17:48] <Smurphy> kaddi: Try exiting by going trough File ?
[17:48] <kaddi> Smurphy: I have the same problem then
[17:48] <eagles051387> hey kaddi :)
[17:48] <kaddi> heya eagles051387 :)
[17:48] <eagles051387> kaddi: ask in ubuntu-mozillateam they might be able to help ya a bit better down there
[17:49] <Dragnslcr> That will tell you how much memory is available
[17:50] <zuz> Dragnslcr, i tried to find, how do i get there
[17:50] <zuz> sorry
[17:51] <kaddi> so alternatively... who can tell me of a good browser, that is capable of using FF-addons but is not FF? :p
[17:51] <DaskreeCH> seamonkey ?
[17:52] <DaskreeCH> I wonder if they started packaging that in Jaunty
[17:52] <DaskreeCH> !info seamonkey
[17:52] <DaskreeCH> \o/
[17:52] <kaddi> :D
[17:52] <Shura> !info plasma
[17:52] <DaskreeCH> Its a little larger than 23k :-)
[17:53] <kaddi> the browser actually is seamonkey-browser apparently ;)
[17:57] <DaskreeCH> kaddi: regardless it pulls in everything
[17:57] <kaddi> DaskreeCH: yeah, it was just meant as an anecdote, because you mentioned the browser might be bigger than 29k ;)
[17:58] <DaskreeCH> :-D
[18:02] <seele> hi, i installed jaunty then enables the nvidia driver (rev 180). i rebooted and now x wont start. i also tried using the older kernel (.11) but no luck. help?
[18:03] <Smurphy> seele: try ou : sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[18:03] <Smurphy> from the console
[18:04] <zuz> i couldnt do the way it was explained, anyone know if i can check if the full memory was installed?
[18:04] <Smurphy> zuz: free
[18:05] <zuz> ?
[18:06] <zuz> i see the system monitor only tells me 1.3MB memory
[18:06] <zuz> i put 1 gb and had 512mb
[18:06] <zuz> so it should be alittle over 1.5?
[18:06] <zuz> i meant 1.3gb
[18:08] <DaskreeCH> zuz: likely dependent on how you count it. People who sell ram count it as larger than the computer does
[18:09] <zuz> i see
[18:09] <zuz> i figured as much
[18:10] <zuz> been trying to google it and ended up finding out so many processes on my system monitor, i didnt have it before i installed a bunch of stuff
[18:10] <zuz> there are about 112 processes on my laptop, i think there were less then half before hehe
[18:10] <zuz> oh well
[18:11] <zuz> this is something im going to have fun learning
[18:11] <zuz> kubuntu that is
[18:13] <zuz> thanks again for all help
[18:15] <Smurphy> seele: you could also try a: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:23] <jnanesh> hi
[18:23] <jnanesh> how can i install yahoo messenger on ubuntu?
[18:24] <Smurphy> jnanesh: -> install kopete - yahoo messenger doesnt run under linux. there is also something for the gnome Desktop. Dunno the name though.
[18:24] <Dragnslcr> jnanesh- Kopete supports Yahoo pretty well
[18:25] <DaskreeCH> !yahoo
[18:25] <Dragnslcr> jnanesh- Pidgin also supports it
[18:25] <Dragnslcr> Hm, that factoid needs to be updated
[18:25] <DaskreeCH> To?
[18:25] <Smurphy> ubottu: Kopete also has issues. Only the latest (beta of KDE) has a fixed Kopete. Yahoo has changed something on the protocol again.
[18:25] <jnanesh> thanks
[18:25] <jnanesh> :)
[18:26] <BluesKaj> !aim
[18:26] <Dragnslcr> DaskreeCH- Pidgin has a fix, dunno if Ubuntu has packaged it yet. Kopete has it fixed for 4.3RC2
[18:26] <DaskreeCH> Dragnslcr: Well update it then
[18:27] <Dragnslcr> I'm pretty sure the bot doesn't listen to me
[18:33] <kaddi> hi, so I've been using FF on gnome and everything works fine, but it still won't close on kde. the ubuntu-mozillateam people think it may be a problem with gtk-qt-engine ... So I am now wondering if I can force FF to run with gnome gtk-engine while running KDE for everything left?
[18:33] <kaddi> or is this just impossible?
[18:35] <DaskreeCH> kaddi: I don't see why not
[18:35] <DaskreeCH> just replace the firefox executable with a script to set what you want
[18:39] <zuz> does kubuntu offer a tool to calibrate laptop batteries?
[18:39] <Mamarok> zuz not AFAIK
[18:39] <Mamarok> didn't even know there were tools to calibrate laptop batteries
[18:40] <zuz> yeah i dont remember if it was just BIOS
[18:40] <zuz> but i was reading something about windows power management tools to calibrate them
[18:40] <dennister> DaskreeCH: i'm about to try and get hold of that user with the monitor that overwrote xorg.conf, and for whom x loads, but doesn't load kde or gnome...is there a cli command she can use in recovery console to change gdm to kdm?
[18:41] <DaskreeCH> dennister: Yes update-alternatives
[18:41] <dennister> ok, will try to get xorg.conf re-written first for her monitor/display, then see about other alternatives
[18:41] <dennister> thx
[18:42] <kaddi> DaskreeCH: it sounds easy when you say it :p
[18:42] <DaskreeCH> Doesn't it?
[18:43] <zuz> ok ill be back,  let me see if this laptop has a calibration tool in the bios
[18:43] <zuz> be back later
[18:43] <zuz> thanks again for the help
[18:46] <Dragnslcr> Bleh, Ubuntu's VM builder tool doesn't seem to be all that good
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> And it looks like all the packages it brought in broke my sound
[18:54] <doorsman> Im on kubuntu 9.04 and it seems that the system is blocking the kernel updates... how can i unblock them so they will apply ?
[18:54] <Dragnslcr> doorsman- in Konsole, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:01] <sithlord48> CAN ANY ONE HELP ME, SOMEONE CHANGED MY PASSWORD!
[19:04] <doorsman> got another question : I'm on a Dell Inspiron 1300. My pcmcia doesnt seems to work.. any clue ?
[19:08] <jnanesh__> which driver you are using doorsman?
[19:10] <doorsman> jnanesh__, im quite new to linux, how can i know that ?
[19:11] <jnanesh__> what kinda pcmcia card you are using?
[19:12] <doorsman> it's a laptop one
[19:12] <doorsman> but i don't know the exact model
[19:16] <jnanesh__> i mean for what purpose you are using it?
[19:18] <kaddi> DaskreeCH: the ubuntu-mozillateam came back and had an easy solution, I just needed to switch from "take my kde settings" to another style for gtk applications in settings. This is apparently a known bug, not with FF but with gtk-qt-engine and I was simply looking at the wrong place
[19:19] <DaskreeCH> kaddi: See Easy :)
[19:20] <kaddi> lol
[19:20] <kaddi> once you know the solution, everything is easy :D
[19:20] <doorsman> jnanesh__, i want to put a sd card reader in it
[19:21] <doorsman> i've the reader, the cards, but the pcmcia adaptor isnt cooperative
[19:33] <iamarto> i want to go to the Ubuntu IRC address
[19:33] <iamarto> anyone knows
[19:34] <Mamarok> iamarto: just type /join #ubuntu
[19:34] <Mamarok> or right click on #ubuntu
[19:35] <iamarto> thanks Mamarok
[19:35] <Mamarok> iamarto: you are welcome :)
[19:35] <iamarto> ;)
[19:41] <pietro74> !ciao
[19:42] <pietro74> *ciao
[19:52] <teapot> так
[19:52] <teapot> есть кто живой?
[19:53] <Mamarok> !ru | teapot
[20:02] <sysierius> hi all
[20:12] <riverson85> hello
[20:12] <sataninside> hi
[20:12] <riverson85> I testing IRC
[20:13] <riverson85> kubuntu is beatiful!!
[20:14] <sataninside> ya
[20:14] <riverson85> more better of XP!
[20:43] <j0el> im using kubuntu 8.10, im able to connect to other wireless networks. But , is it possible to share my wired connection via adhoc wireless from my machine ?
[20:46] <j0el> i couldnt find an option for doing that...is there any way to make it work ?
[21:09] <cypr1nus> hello, has anyone got a problem with smplayer - freezes after couple of seconds?
[21:11] <tolga> hello
[21:11] <cypr1nus> i'm using the latest kubuntu and smplayer uses nv and alsa
[21:12] <Mamarok> cypr1nus: sorry, I don't use smplayer
[21:12] <cypr1nus> Mamarok: ok, no problem, but maybe someone has seen such issue
[21:13] <j0el> im using kubuntu 8.10, im able to connect to other wireless networks. But , is it possible to share my wired connection via adhoc wireless from my machine ?
[21:20] <cypr1nus> ok, i;ve figured it out - i had to turn off SSA/ASS subtitles and everything goes fine ;]
[21:37] <doorsman> My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1300 on kubuntu 9.04 When I'm trying to get my pcmcia sd card reader to work, it seems it's not detected by the computer... any idea on how to make it detected?
[21:38] <doorsman> I even tryied a usb sd card reader, same result, but the other usb devices are working
[21:39] <Mamarok> doorsman: what does lspcmia tell you?
[21:39] <doorsman> min
[21:39] <doorsman> returns nothing
[21:40] <Mamarok> doorsman: it should at least tell you something, maybe the connection to the pcmcia card is broken?
[21:40] <doorsman> how can i know that ?
[21:41] <Mamarok> are you sure you actually have a cardreader or is it just a slot for a pcmcia reader?
[21:41] <doorsman> it's a pcmcia adaptor for reading sd cards
[21:41] <Mamarok> oh, actually not a built in reader then?
[21:41] <doorsman> nope
[21:42] <Mamarok> what make is the reader?
[21:42] <doorsman> a pcmcia card
[21:42] <Mamarok> it should have some serial number or such, so you can google for it
[21:42] <Mamarok> it has a manufacturer name on it for sure :)
[21:43] <doorsman> pqi Adapter CompactFlash
[21:43] <Mamarok> pci
[21:43] <doorsman> nope
[21:43] <doorsman> pqi
[21:43] <Mamarok> so it should show up with the lspci command
[21:44] <Mamarok> ok, let me see if I find something
[21:44] <doorsman> lemme put it in the computer
[21:44] <doorsman> do i need to put a sd card in it as well ?
[21:44] <Mamarok> doorsman: do you have a Model number?
[21:45] <doorsman> nope
[21:45] <Mamarok> doorsman: well, no once it's in the pcmcia slot it should show up with the lspcmcia command
[21:46] <doorsman> sec
[21:46] <cypr1nus> ok, so maybe anyone seen smplayer freezes?
[21:46] <cypr1nus> using xv and alsa?
[21:47] <Mamarok> cypr1nus: you should eventually give a bit more information, Kubuntu version, KDE version and such
[21:47] <cypr1nus> Mamarok: kubuntu 9.04, kde 4.2.4
[21:47] <Mamarok> smplayer version?
[21:48] <doorsman> Mamarok : http://pastebin.ca/1501357
[21:48] <doorsman> output of lspci
[21:48] <Mamarok> doorsman: pastebin!
[21:48] <Mamarok> !paste
[21:49] <cypr1nus> Mamarok: SMPlayer v. 0.6.6 (SVN r2599)
[21:49] <cypr1nus> the latest
[21:49] <doorsman> so you want me to paste there instead ?
[21:49] <Mamarok> doorsman: sorry, ny bad, didn't see your paste earlier :/
[21:49] <doorsman> so its ok ?
[21:50] <Mamarok> doorsman: I only see the built in port, not the card, what does lspcmcia say?
[21:51] <doorsman> nothing
[21:51] <Mamarok> nothing at all? not even one line?
[21:51] <doorsman> nothing at all
[21:52] <Mamarok> doorsman: then your port is not seen neither, you should at least have a mention of Socket Bridge or souch
[21:52] <Mamarok> such*
[21:52] <Mamarok> doorsman: is this laptop new?
[21:53] <doorsman> no
[21:56] <doorsman> any other ideas ?
[21:58] <drbobb> hey i'm wondering wtf is wrong with my wired ethernet interface
[21:58] <drbobb> on wireless, I get about 3 Mbps on speedtest (d/l)
[21:59] <drbobb> but when i connect with an ethernet wire to the same router, it's only 1/10 of that
[22:00] <[agatha]> doorsman you might want to check the computer specs if it's integrated
[22:00] <[agatha]> sometimes that helps
[22:00] <drbobb> my guess is 3 Mbps is about the practical top i could get out of wireless/g with wpa, right?
[22:02] <[agatha]> drbobb,  not sure but i think my old connection was 4 and i used wireless with wpa normally... i might very well be wrong since i filter by mac from really long ago
[22:02] <phh> drbobb: i can have something like 6 times that with my wireless network
[22:02] <triptik> hi all!
[22:02] <triptik> i am a trouble
[22:03] <triptik> i have a problem
[22:03] <drbobb> well ok, so 3 Mbps is probably the effect of my ISP's b/w cutoff
[22:03] <triptik> how can i install v4l2 kernel module in kubuntu jaunty
[22:03] <triptik> with a 2.6.28-13 kernel?
[22:04] <drbobb> so I am getting at least 3 Mbps d/l b/w from my ISP
[22:04] <drbobb> then I should at least match that speed when on a wired connection
[22:04] <drbobb> so, my etherne card must be defective, right?
[22:04] <drbobb> ethernet, even
[22:05] <drbobb> (well unless it's the router that's busted)
[22:07] <Mamarok> doorsman: if it's not a new laptop, checking the internal connections for the pcmcpia slot is an idea, it seems not even connected
[22:08] <drbobb> so how do I get around determining whether i have a defective ethernet card
[22:08] <drbobb> (sticking another one in is not an option, it's in a laptop)
[22:16] <drbobb> or maybe it's the linux driver for the eth card that's at fault
[22:17] <drbobb> too bad I didn't speedtest it before wiping windows altogether
[22:17] <Mamarok> drbobb: what card is it? You can see the specifications with the lspci command in a konsole
[22:18] <Mamarok> drbobb: some wireless chipsets are simply not documented enough to run with windows
[22:18] <luis_> hello i need some help, i have the exact same problem than this pages describes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/193125 and i dont know what to do, pls i need help
[22:18] <Mamarok> with linux, typo, sry
[22:18] <Mamarok> luis, could you please descibe your problem in your question?
[22:18] <drbobb> Mamarok: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
[22:19] <Mamarok> ouch, SiS is not always very Linux friendly...
[22:20] <Mamarok> drbobb: but according to Google it should run with Linux since years
[22:20] <Mamarok> so maybe a driver problem, but it should run out of the box
[22:20] <drbobb> Mamarok: i never said it doesn't run
[22:21] <drbobb> but it does seem to have unusually low throughput
[22:21] <Mamarok> drbobb: maybe just  a cable problem?
[22:22] <drbobb> wouldn't that generate some error messages?
[22:23] <drbobb> I'm looking at the logs, and I see nothing pertinent
[22:25] <luis_> hello i need some help, i have the exact same problem than this pages describes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/193125 and i dont know what to do, pls i need help
[22:27] <stephen_> hello I have a very quick question about a mouse...
[22:27] <stephen_> IIntelliMouse 1.3A PS/2 Compatable Mouse drivers available on Linux?
[22:28] <Mamarok> luis_: the solution is given in that same bug report, read the comments
[22:29] <Mamarok> stephen_: I don't know, did you google for it? AFAIK pretty much all mice should work
[22:29] <stephen_> Yes, I did. Here's an ubuntuforums link
[22:29] <stephen_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7648460#post7648460
[22:30] <luis_> mamarok, but u know, u r the man, u cant explain me that step by step?
[22:30] <luis_> i am tired of that IDE glitch
[22:31] <Mamarok> luis_: no, I can't, never did that such a modification
[22:31] <Mamarok> luis_: read again the comments, IIUC there is a steb by steb instruction there
[22:31] <Mamarok> step by step
[22:31] <luis_> ok, u never had that bug?
[22:32] <Mamarok> no
[22:34] <drbobb> when I open dolphin, kio_thumbnail segfaults all over the place
[22:35] <drbobb> and since it seems to be invoked over and over, the machine pretty much stalls until I disable previews
[22:36] <drbobb> which I have to do again every time I enter a different directory
[22:37] <stephen_> drbob: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-736863.html
[22:37] <stephen_> try that?
[22:40] <zuz> anyway to run exe files on kubuntu?
[22:40] <zuz> dell bios firmware upgrade only comes in exe
[22:42] <zuz> i meant bios upgrade
[22:42] <stephen_> try WINE
[22:42] <zuz> and im scared of using wine and messing with the bios
[22:43] <stephen_> Wine is very safe most of the time...
[22:43] <zuz> oh really?
[22:43] <stephen_> I play DirectX games on it...
[22:43] <zuz> thanks i was reading about it for some programs and alot of people saying it might work
[22:43] <zuz> the might work must be just for those programs
[22:43] <zuz> yeah counter strike was the game i was reading about it
[22:44] <stephen_> Um it works with almost everyting with it not working on many games, but for your simple app, it will most likely work
[22:47] <stephen_> I am having a simple mouse problem, if you want to help, please check out my post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7648460#post7648460
[22:48] <drbobb> stephen_: how is that relevant?
[22:48] <drbobb> that message doesn't seem to have anything to do with my problem
[22:48] <stephen_> yes srry, that was a bad link
[22:48] <stephen_> really, srry
[22:49] <drbobb> zuz: I don't think a BIOS upgrade program will work with Wine
[22:49] <stephen_> oh...
[22:49] <stephen_> why?
[22:49] <drbobb> that's direct h/w access, I wouldn't expect it to work at all
[22:50] <drbobb> wow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/362457 describes my problem, exactly
[22:50] <hexorg> Good daytime, everyone!
[22:51] <stephen_> http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2007-October/028045.html
[22:51] <hexorg> I have a trouble that rather touches my hardware then software
[22:51] <stephen_> drbobb
[22:51] <zuz> yeah didnt work
[22:51] <stephen_> hmmm
[22:52] <stephen_> ok srry again
[22:52] <zuz> how am i going to do this upgrade
[22:52] <stephen_> ill shut up and learn
[22:52] <zuz> they only have it in exe
[22:52] <zuz> nah, you didnt say anything bad
[22:52] <zuz> thanks for trying
[22:52] <stephen_> np
[22:52] <LuisJa> hello i have 1 problem: My suspen and hibernation doesnt work in my laptop, in the case of the suspend, it seems the laptop is not sleeping, and in the hibernation, my turn on button keeps flashing orange, but i cant turn on again the laptop, can someone help me to fix this please? i have a acer aspire 4520 series
[22:52] <zuz> i still need to upgrade my bios
[22:53] <zuz> since the new bios has a fix for a problem im getting on this laptop
[22:53] <velezovando> zuz> how about a dindows boot cd?
[22:53] <velezovando> windows
[22:53] <zuz> i dont have windows installed here tho
[22:54] <zuz> wouldnt i have to have it installed?
[22:54] <LuisJa> hello i have 1 problem: My suspen and hibernation doesnt work in my laptop, in the case of the suspend, it seems the laptop is not sleeping, and in the hibernation, my turn on button keeps flashing orange, but i cant turn on again the laptop, can someone help me to fix this please? i have a acer aspire 4520 series
[22:54] <hexorg> I bought my laptop a few days ago with vista... in less then 50 hours it went to BSOD and i reinstalled it and put kubuntu for use. Everything works great, but kubuntu found a joystik plugged in and it is a built in accelerometer! Can someone give me any idea why would laptop have a built in accelerometer?
[22:54] <stephen_> LuisJA> Are you running wubi?
[22:55] <LuisJa> is LuisJa lol
[22:55] <velezovando> not necessarily, i believe ubcd4win boots you into a live windows
[22:55] <LuisJa> yes....
[22:55] <stephen_> Thats your problem...
[22:55] <nicky__> hi
[22:55] <LuisJa> i couldnt isntall manually, i didnt know how to do that
[22:55] <nicky__> can someone help me
[22:55] <stephen_> Not allowed to that with WUBI
[22:55] <nicky__> :(
[22:55] <LuisJa> i couldnt isntall manually, i didnt know how to do that
[22:55] <nicky__> anyone pro at ubuntu can offer me assistance please please
[22:56] <stephen_> yes.
[22:56] <zuz> so  you think i can install that from ultimate boot cd for windowS?
[22:56] <LuisJa> can u give me a page with a easy tutorial for installing kubuntu manually? i am going to uninstall it with wubi and install it manually
[22:56] <stephen_> ok hold on
[22:56] <LuisJa> thx
[22:56] <stephen_> hmm
[22:56] <stephen_> >
[22:56] <nicky__> stephen
[22:56] <zuz> cuz i have one right next to me
[22:56] <nicky__> i private messaged u
[22:56] <stephen_> yes?
[22:56] <velezovando> yup, put it on a usb key, boot ubcd, and execute it
[22:56] <zuz> but i didnt think it would of worked with it
[22:57] <zuz> i have it on a sd card
[22:57] <zuz> wonder if ubcd recognizes the sd card
[22:57] <zuz> ok im going to try it
[22:57] <zuz> brb
[22:57] <zuz> thanks for the idea
[22:57] <FloodBotK2> zuz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <velezovando> no prob
[22:58] <m4v> creo que debería tener transparencias
[22:58] <m4v> sorry, wrong win
[22:58] <zuz> oooops, flooding...
[22:58] <stephen_> srry LuisJa im still working
[22:59] <LuisJa> oh well, thx anyways... its cause i dont wanna @$!& my system 0(
[22:59] <stephen_> I think i found something
[22:59] <stephen_> Its video
[22:59] <stephen_> oh nvm
[22:59] <LuisJa> oh lol
[22:59] <LuisJa> well thx dude :)
[23:00] <stephen_> http://kubuntuguide.org/Jaunty
[23:00] <stephen_> there you go
[23:00] <stephen_> look in CH 3
[23:01] <nicky_> does someone know anything about kiba-dock
[23:01] <nicky_> and can help me
[23:01] <nicky_> im getting an error
[23:01] <Guest41878> nicky@nicky-desktop:~$ sudo kiba-dock
[23:01] <Guest41878> [sudo] password for nicky:
[23:01] <Guest41878> Segmentation fault
[23:03] <stephen_> hey
[23:03] <stephen_> http://www.kiba-dock.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=30&topic=632.0
[23:03] <stephen_> look at the very bottom
[23:03] <Guest41878> looking
[23:04] <Guest41878> ohh
[23:04] <Guest41878> nice
[23:04] <Guest41878> stephen
[23:04] <Guest41878> im unaware of many commands in linux as i am new
[23:04] <Guest41878> do i just type
[23:04] <Guest41878> rm -rf ~/.kiba-dock
[23:04] <Guest41878> in terminal?
[23:04] <stephen_> BTW
[23:04] <Guest41878> coz i remember trying it before
[23:04] <stephen_> That removes the config file
[23:04] <Guest41878> which one
[23:05] <Guest41878> theres like 4 config files
[23:05] <Guest41878> lol..
[23:05] <stephen_> it removes the directory
[23:05] <Guest41878> and thats bad thing?
[23:05] <Guest41878> meaning i wont be able to use it
[23:05] <Guest41878> ?
[23:06] <stephen_> IDK If you restart the app, It will recreate it, but im telling you this, because IDK for ABSOLUTE SURE
[23:06] <Guest41878> well it deosnt hurt to try
[23:06] <stephen_> But if it were me, I'd do it
[23:06] <Guest41878> i can always re-install the stuff
[23:06] <stephen_> exactly
[23:06] <Guest41878> so do i copy and paste rm -rf ~/.kiba-dock?
[23:06] <Guest41878> or do i type sudo first
[23:06] <stephen_> sudo
[23:06] <Guest41878> i hate sudo
[23:07] <Guest41878> pisses me off sometimes
[23:07] <stephen_> lol
[23:07] <Guest41878> always have to type that crap
[23:07] <Guest41878> um dude
[23:07] <stephen_> it helps errors that would happen on windows not happen on ubuntu
[23:07] <stephen_> ?....
[23:07] <Guest41878> i did it nothing happened no error nothing
[23:07] <Guest41878> nicky@nicky-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf ~/.kiba-dock
[23:07] <Guest41878> [sudo] password for nicky:
[23:07] <stephen_> ok
[23:07] <Guest41878> nicky@nicky-desktop:~$
[23:07] <stephen_> thats good
[23:07] <Guest41878> no
[23:07] <Guest41878> nothing showed up
[23:07] <Guest41878> and dude
[23:08] <Guest41878> i went into preferences
[23:08] <stephen_> I know
[23:08] <FloodBotK2> Guest41878: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <Guest41878> kiba-dock is gone
[23:08] <Guest41878> lol
[23:08] <stephen_> reboot
[23:08] <stephen_> and rerun
[23:08] <stephen_> kiba-dock
[23:08] <Guest41878> s
[23:08] <Guest41878> but wat if kiba-dock isnt there
[23:08] <Guest41878> ok
[23:08] <Guest41878> i'll reboot
[23:08] <Guest41878> stay here
[23:08] <Guest41878> dont go anywhere
[23:08] <FloodBotK2> Guest41878: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <Guest41878> =)
[23:08] <stephen_> k
[23:09] <drbobb> hmm I see lots of people have had similar problems with the sis900, some as far back as 5 years ago
[23:09] <drbobb> and it never was really solved
[23:09] <stephen_> What is the floodbot talking about?
[23:11] <drbobb> (switching ACPI off is not an acceptable solution)
[23:11] <stephen_> lol
[23:11] <nicky> stephen
[23:11] <nicky> it cameback after i restarted
[23:11] <stephen_> yes
[23:11] <stephen_> good
[23:12] <Guest55823> buut in terminal i still get segmentation fault
[23:12] <Guest55823> T.T
[23:12] <stephen_> does it work
[23:12] <stephen_> or still sigsegv?
[23:12] <Guest55823> segmentation fault again
[23:12] <Guest55823> T.T
[23:12] <stephen_> how did you install it?
[23:12] <Guest55823> long process i ahve to show u by pm or else bot will mute me
[23:12] <Guest55823> lol..
[23:12] <stephen_> k
[23:28] <Luija> I need help, i am not able to boot from the installation CD when i am restarting, it automatically goes to vista
[23:28] <Luija> i also need help with the manual installation...
[23:30] <Luija> hello....
[23:31] <Sinatra_Laptop> can anybody suggest a good torrent search site? (if you google it - a million come up)
[23:31] <Luija> ignoramus why u r not here....
[23:31] <Luija> i miss ur help lol...=(
[23:35] <velezovando> Luija, did you change the boot priority in the bios?
[23:35] <Luija> ?
[23:35] <BluesKaj> Luija, do you have the boot sequence set to cdrom as the default ?
[23:35] <Luija> Lol?
[23:36] <BluesKaj> in the BIOS
[23:36] <Luija> dont know how to do that
[23:36] <velezovando> when your pc starts up there is a message - something like press F2, or press Del to configure... check it out
[23:36] <drbobb> Sinatra_Laptop: (OT) torrentz.com seems to be the best
[23:38] <LuisJa> damn got dc
[23:40] <velezovando> once you press the designed key, you'll enter the bios set up, look for an option such as boot device priority (or similar)
[23:42] <LuisJa> well i got some options here but no one says start from CD
[23:42] <LuisJa> ...
[23:47] <BluesKaj> cd/dvdrom drive, LuisJa
[23:48] <BluesKaj> you have toclick on the option to open and reset it then use the arrow keys to move it up or down in the boot sequence
[23:52] <BluesKaj> bbl