[00:11] s === medved_ is now known as Spam4u === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === fer is now known as disco_stuN800 [00:53] sup ubuntus [01:03] hi [01:03] if i ssh into a box how do i start an application on it on screen. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === darthtuvok is now known as darthanubis [01:35] does anyone else have they keyboard periodically fail? [01:36] I can Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a tty1 [01:36] but no other keypress events seem to get caught by kubuntu [01:36] damn frustrating [01:36] only seen it happen on my laptop [01:40] just logging out and in seems to fix the issue [01:40] mouse events work fine [01:52] Ola [01:52] esse canal e portugues? [01:53] !pt [01:53] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [02:11] can someone give me link for kubuntu 8.10? When I go to kubuntu.org it only gives me options for 8.04 or 9.04 [02:13] http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/ [02:14] Steve_:thanks [02:18] I bin using launchpad to post bugs.. but noone seems to act on them.. what am I doing wrong? [02:20] or where should I post the bugs? [02:20] Captain_Haddock are you around? [02:21] anybody know what changed between 8.10 and 9.04 pertaining to SATA HDD Detection? [02:21] Steve_: you've posted the bugs to the right place, now be patient [02:21] AceBlade159: nothing [02:22] darthnubis: you sure, my hard drives are detected on an 8.10 live cd, but not a 9.04 [02:22] anyone know a good graphical archiver? Ark doesn't like passwords apparently [02:23] 7zip is not to bad (does the job).. but im sure there is better tools [02:23] there is also peazip [02:24] is peazip command line? [02:24] O nice I thought peazip was windows only, might switch over [02:25] darthanubis: you sure, my hard drives are detected on an 8.10 live cd, but not a 9.04 [02:25] peazip is graphical, and there is a linux version [02:26] darthanubis: I had a smiler issue, did you try some of the boot options [02:26] how do I get a bluetooth mouse to reconnect after rebooting? [02:27] err just downloaded the peazip rpm and it said an error occured during installation [02:28] AceBlade159: 9.04 should still install on your drives though [02:28] Rhetorik, I think I compiled my version [02:28] and if you are using an rpm, you'll have to use alien to convert the rpm into a deb for installation [02:28] darthanubis: it dosn't dven detect that i have a drive other than my cd-rom [02:29] darthanubis: i am on an nforce 4 chipset [02:29] ah, got it Count thanks [02:29] AceBlade159: that is not good, which CD are you trying? [02:29] hi there [02:29] np [02:29] and are there BIOS options you can change [02:29] ive added myself to a group yet when i type "groups" i am not in that group [02:30] currently i am on the 9.04 live ubuntu, but it's the same in kubuntu and xubuntu [02:30] how do i update my group list? [02:30] AceBlade159: you have to set BIOS options to tell Ubuntu you have SATA drives [02:30] david - log out and back in [02:30] AceBlade159: and turn RAID off if it is enabled in BIOS [02:31] I'm just taking shots in the dark here [02:31] Steve_: do i need to log out of my whole kubuntu session? [02:31] also AceBlade159 some BIOS have emulate as IDE [02:31] I just moved from a nforce chipset to Intel [02:31] that's the thing, i cant. windows sees my drives, and 8.10 does too, but not 9.04 [02:31] try 9.10 :P [02:31] AceBlade159: that is too bad [02:31] AceBlade159: install 8.10 then do a full upgrade to 9.04? [02:31] steve_: i think nforce is perminatly stuck [02:32] darthanubis: but i loose the quicker boot up [02:32] ?? [02:33] 8.10 live takes ~5 min. to boot, installe takes ~3.5 [02:33] really dumb question. Kubuntu newbie here [02:33] AceBlade159: no you won't lose the quicker boot up, a full upgrade is just that a full upgrade === jason is now known as Guest73622 [02:33] darthanubis: you sure all stays the same? [02:33] !ask| dbc254 [02:33] dbc254: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [02:34] AceBlade159: I did it no issues, but I never have issue most seem to run into [02:34] darthanubis: what kind of computer you have>? [02:34] how do I change an icon? It's currently just a question mark in my applications [02:34] but it works. Just want to change the icon [02:35] dbc254: right click, select properties [02:35] AceBlade159: I had a XFX 680i nforce SLI [02:35] has anyone heard of a problem where, all kde 3.5 programs are unresponsive? [02:35] when I right click, there are is no "properties" option [02:35] darthanubis: and you have no issues, lucky [02:36] now I have an Asus P5 SE2, i build my own boxes, i just changed my mobo, because the XFX mobo was too noisey [02:36] dbc254: one sec [02:36] darthanubis: mine is an old custom build, nForce 4 AMD Ultra [02:37] wow [02:37] what kind of amd? [02:37] Athlon 64 X2 3800+ [02:37] what kind of chipset 754, 929? [02:37] AM2? [02:37] 939 [02:37] Like my brothers [02:37] oooooooolllllldddd [02:38] it's not a bad build [02:38] drivers are under the 'legacy' section [02:38] It is a 64bit dual core chip [02:38] that aint "old" [02:38] no, it's a spectular build and is still running stable [02:39] i consider it old when parts of it become "legacy" [02:39] true [02:39] but still bad a## [02:39] dbc254: sorry, i forget how to do that in kde [02:39] oh snap! [02:40] indeed. i have it overclocked at the moment to 2.68 ghz [02:40] just switched from Mandriva, and it's the only thing I can't do yet. One icon is a question mark instead of the icon [02:41] dbc254: lol, i'm still learning kde, i mostly know gnome [02:41] dbc254: i was a Mandrake user more than 10yrs ago, the memories [02:41] i came from gentoo [02:41] arch [02:41] ... installs took way too long [02:41] I just switched to KDE after using Gnome since ubuntu debuted [02:41] I switched from SuSe to Mandrake, stayed with 'em till a couple weeks ago. Now I'm using Kubuntu [02:41] why'd you switch to kde? [02:41] I used Gentoo back whenGentoo first came out [02:42] still have to install virtual box, but everything is working great [02:42] Because of Gnome Mono adoption [02:42] I've always preferred KDE to Gnoe [02:42] i never got around to trying SuSe [02:42] and KDE4x is badd a$$ [02:42] what do you mean Mono? [02:42] KDE is only good in my books since QT went OpenSource [02:43] Steve_: right [02:43] AceBlade159: C# [02:43] who else here might know how to change an icon ? [02:43] and yes kde 4x is amazing [02:43] ok what icon? [02:43] and what window managewr [02:43] oh yeah... well whatever:) it all beats Vista [02:43] I have a comic reader program and I'm using KDE. It works but the icon is a questionmark === derrick__ is now known as D-Master [02:44] linux crushes M$.! [02:44] mmmm... i don't know, from a purely technical standpoint MS has the advantage [02:45] morally Linux is by far and wide better [02:45] steve_ right clicking doesn't give me a "properties" option [02:45] linux let me use hardware that MS would laugh at [02:45] dbc254: ok right click on the K then Menu Editor... [02:45] then click on the program in the tree view [02:46] then click on the icon picture on the right [02:46] select the new icon [02:46] steve_: would you happen to know a workaround for the emulation problem? [02:47] what emulator? [02:47] Virtual Box? [02:47] sorry, i should be more specific. nf4 chipset emulating all SATA as IDE [02:48] humm i ran into a problem with that... I think I used some kernel option [02:49] if you could help me with that i would be eternally gratful [02:49] thanx STEVE [02:49] but if i were u i would go to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20090719/ and grab the latest [02:49] *i can't spell for $h** [02:49] np dbc254 [02:49] you know guys we are waaay OT;) [02:50] is that stable enough for installation? [02:50] sure [02:50] darthanubis: were, not are [02:50] im not sure but ya i do it all the time [02:50] alright, brb [02:52] even though i am using my "high definition" built-in soundcard, only one program can have access to the soundcard at one time. is there a fix for this or do ihave to stick in a better card? [02:53] nonewmsgs: it is not the onboard sound it is that Kbuntu does not have pulseaudio configured [02:54] i just fixed mine by following the pulseaudio ubuntu wiki [02:54] could someone with POWER look at some bugs i posted.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/~steve-r-weber [02:54] and get them fixed up [02:55] nonewmsgs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio [02:55] darthanubis, so pulse audio instead of ALSA will fix my problem? [02:55] Steve_: your not going to wait til it is handled [02:55] nonewmsgs: it did for me [02:55] nonewmsgs: the alternative was unacceptable [02:55] no because my old bug reports bin sitting for like 3 weeks [02:55] Steve_: that is nothing [02:56] lol [02:56] they may not get answered at all, because maybe it is NOT a bug? [02:56] well ya not bugs.. but thay bug me :) [02:57] like the KDE logout song causing blocking... [02:57] and the dam pcspkr why not blacklist [02:58] also after installing ubuntu the volume is at max and the song is like ccrazy loud [02:59] agree no? [03:00] those are called "paper cuts" [03:00] not show stoppers [03:00] well paper cuts add up.. and they should be simple fixes [03:01] <`Onyx> Hi, I'm having trouble trying to get my webcam on my laptop to work [03:02] <`Onyx> Anyone able to help? [03:02] what it say when u plug it in [03:02] dmesg? [03:03] <`Onyx> Are you talking to me Steve_ ? [03:04] yes [03:04] is it UVC? [03:04] <`Onyx> It's built into my laptop [03:04] humm [03:04] lsusb [03:04] du u see any webcam stuff? [03:05] <`Onyx> Nope [03:06] did you try google.. "(your laptop model) ubuntu webcam" [03:06] <`Onyx> Yeah [03:06] <`Onyx> There wasn't much at all [03:06] <`Onyx> Only people with problems and no solutions [03:06] <`Onyx> Hence why I'm asking here [03:06] well then im likly no help then [03:07] sorry guy [03:07] er what is your model? [03:12] <`Onyx> dv9000 [03:13] <`Onyx> And it's all good. Just thought I'd try my luck [03:13] <`Onyx> There's bound to be someone that can help eventually [03:14] do u see a Bus 005 Device 002: ID 05ca:1810 Ricoh Co., Ltd [03:14] when u go lsusb === mushrOOm is now known as VerliHub [03:15] er a "Ricoh Co., Ltd" [03:15] <`Onyx> Nope [03:16] <`Onyx> I don't understand why you're looking at the USB ports though [03:16] <`Onyx> It's built in [03:16] the web cam would be connected to a usb port === VerliHub is now known as mushrOOm [03:16] iven if it is built in, it still connects via usb protocall [03:17] *even [03:17] and what's the full model number? [03:17] <`Onyx> Ah I see [03:17] <`Onyx> HP Pavillion dv9000 [03:18] on the bottom of the laptop there should be a serial number sticker the says somewhere HP Pavillion dv9xxx [03:18] dv9000 is the general model [03:19] `Onyx: could you send me the lsusb output [03:20] <`Onyx> It doesn't say anything else besides "Entertainment PC" [03:20] 064e:a110 is the cam [03:20] google Suyin Corp [03:21] sorry, my client crashed [03:21] have you found the model number? [03:22] http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/howto-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-pavilion-dv2000-dv6000-dv9000-series-laptops [03:22] that should help [03:22] <`Onyx> No there was no number I could see AceBlade159 [03:22] darthanubis, thank you for your help! i now can play from 2 different media players, but if i try to use this one java chess interface, it still is the only sound source? [03:22] <`Onyx> Thanks Steve_ ! [03:22] np [03:23] nonewmsgs: great! [03:23] anybody know how supported ati graphics are? [03:23] darthanubis, but how can i have sound from players and te java thing? [03:23] rather, how well they work [03:24] nonewmsgs: check pulseaudio manager [03:29] darthanubis, http://yfrog.com/b5paulselp is a screenshot [03:29] darthanubis, but i cannot hear the mgmt song [03:31] nonewmsgs: have you rebooted? And not ALL applications will work with Pulseaudio. Do your homework:) [03:32] Darthanubis no i haven't. hold on [03:32] my ati is working good [03:33] <`Onyx> Steve_, you know a good webcam program? [03:33] <`Onyx> It's working in aMSN [03:33] <`Onyx> But not in camorama [03:33] hummm what u want to do with the webcam? [03:34] <`Onyx> Are you familiar with any windows cam programs? [03:34] <`Onyx> Like manycam? [03:34] `Onyx: cheese [03:34] <`Onyx> Cheese eh? [03:34] ya i guess cheese... [03:35] <`Onyx> even with KDE? [03:35] are and of the video editing tools any good? [03:35] `Onyx: why not with KDE? [03:35] <`Onyx> It says gnome [03:35] like Kino any good? [03:35] so what [03:35] <`Onyx> Doesn't matter? [03:35] it is a linux app [03:36] jeez [03:36] <`Onyx> lol chill out man, I'm still really new to linux [03:36] `Onyx: if it mattered it would not have been recomended [03:37] <`Onyx> Well from this little exercise, I've learnt that it doesn't matter if you want to install a gnome app on KDE [03:37] <`Onyx> :D [03:38] or Kdenlive might be good [03:40] <`Onyx> Cheese worked, and it has cool effects. Thanks darthanubis [03:41] `Onyx: your welcome === noschang is now known as Schang-br [04:10] hi folks, installed minimal-cli + kde-core and have no wireless, was wondering what packages i need to install to get the graphical configuration app for it? [04:10] or is there a package that will give me more configuration options in general? [04:16] anyone? [04:18] hello [04:19] ohh hello. [04:19] are bcm43xx cards supported out of the box in 9.04? [04:19] humm ya i think [04:20] mine works... but ya you might need to get the driver.... its a binary blob [04:20] ok, i installed cli + kde-core and i dont have wireless, can you point me in the right direction? [04:21] although i think i found a how-to online re bcm43xx cards [04:22] sudo apt-get install bcmwl-modaliases [04:22] if not already [04:22] ohh thanks [04:22] and sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source [04:23] only if you dont see a wirless card if you go iwconfig [04:24] couldnt find the package [04:26] ya my spelling probbly off or its not out yet [04:26] ohh ok, i'll go through this how-to and see how I go, thanks for your help. [04:26] try doing a search for broadcom in you download manager [04:26] alright good lcuk [04:34] are there any 2.6.30.1 kernel packages? [04:40] ya somewhere [05:28] alright, so I have been having this problem for a long time [05:29] and it is that all kde 3.5 programs either go grey or become 'not responsive' [05:30] and if they don't crash while doing that, they take extremely long amounts of time to become responsive again, meaning that either way, they're unuseable [05:32] humm kde 3.5 is old right === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [05:45] is there anyway i can burn a cd from inside a kubuntu live cd session [05:53] I'm thinking of switching to Kubuntu on my PS3, but I'm concerned if I just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever the command is it'll install some software I don't need. [05:53] Help? [05:54] yap it will install the KDE desktop along side the gnome [05:55] Is there anyway I can get rid of Gnome? [05:55] I like KDE better and I might as well save hard drive space. [05:55] format :P [05:55] Arg! [05:55] That's unpleasant. [05:55] well i guess you could try and apt-get remove ... [05:56] but ya i never went that route [05:56] Will it install OpenOffice and all that stuff over again? [05:56] I'm assuming not since they're basically the same software with a different desktop environment, right? [05:56] no... [05:56] ya [05:56] 'Kay. [05:57] i have both gnome and kde packages.. it's not to bad [05:57] On a PS3 or a PC? [05:57] but i reformat like everymonth PC [05:57] ya ps3 sounds risky [05:57] how are the video drivers treating ya [05:57] Meh, I'm not using it for anything heavy-duty yet, so I wouldn't know. [05:58] I tried playing a video once in VLC and it was a mess though. Little worried. :/ [05:58] i tryed it like 2 years ago.. but could not stand only 256 ram [05:58] So once I've installed kubuntu, how do I access it? [05:58] It'll still boot into Gnome by default, right? [05:59] it works alright as a media player when u dont have the codex.. but ps3 is solid now i think [05:59] umm does it let you pick your seshion type at the bottom? [05:59] Oh, that'll probably do it. Thanks. [06:00] or does it auto log in [06:00] np [06:16] Count: I am now. [06:16] well then [06:16] all packages are fully upgraded now [06:16] I also moved completely over to kde 4 [06:17] on hardy? [06:17] yes [06:17] the thing is is that the programs, they slow down horribly more than anything else [06:17] it will take minutes for a menu to come up [06:18] like I mentioned before, open office writer doesn't even fully come up, and it doesn't give any error messages [06:18] when did this start happening exactly? [06:18] I think it actually started happening once I put in kde 4 for the first time :/ [06:19] ah [06:19] I would have gotten rid of kde 4, but konsole-kde4 was the only konsole I had access to [06:19] as the 3.5 konsole suffered from the same problems [06:20] I don't know if you can revert once you migrate to KDE 4 [06:21] yeah, I don't know [06:21] like I said before, kde 4 programs work fine [06:22] all kde3.5-tied programs are the ones with problems [06:25] it's not that bad of a problem, besides not having open office [06:25] Count: what do you get for apt-cache show kdebase [06:25] ? [06:25] rather, what version do you see? [06:26] Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2 [06:26] Version: 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 [06:26] I get two different sets of info [06:28] Count: and you have a kdebase-kde4 as well? [06:28] (which version?) [06:28] no [06:28] they're both kdebase [06:28] let me pastebin it [06:29] http://pastebin.com/m162db52d [06:30] Count: do you also have a separate one called kdebase-kde4? (apt-cache show kdebase-kde4) [06:31] yeah, there are two of those as well [06:31] Version: 4:4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1 [06:31] Version: 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 [06:32] ah [06:33] For one thing, KDE 4.0 is something of a prebeta release (IMO)... I also don't know how having two concurrent KDEs works out in terms of stability. [06:33] well, I tried to get rid of kdebase [06:33] ie, apt-get remove kdebase [06:34] but by removing kdebase, it was also going to remove the programs that came with kde4 [06:34] so I aborted [06:34] right [06:34] you mentioned that other programs besides openoffice also hung frequently [06:35] the kde 3.5 programs? [06:35] yes [06:35] what will happen, is that they will be brought up, or be focused on [06:35] and they will be unresponsive [06:36] but, if say konsole is brought up [06:37] it will take an extremely long time for just the basic konsole screen to show [06:37] and then after that, if you wanted to maximize it, you could click, and it would maximize after minutes [06:37] then, you could type something, and it would show up in the konsole minutes later [06:38] which terminal is stable atm? [06:38] kde4 konsole [06:39] can you type "top" in that to get a list of processes? You should be able to use > to sort the various columns.. see if there's one in particular hogging the cpu [06:40] there isn't [06:40] if there ever is, it's firefox [06:40] try opening one of the problematic programs and then check [06:41] yeah, nothing hogs the cpu [06:42] what will happen though, if I use the 'System Monitor' that is similar to windows task manager [06:42] I will see multiples of one program [06:42] like konsole 5 times [06:43] or kdesu 5-10 times [06:43] bash sometimes multiple times [06:44] do you have a .kde and .kde4 directory in ~? [06:44] yes [06:45] Count: rename them both to .kde.bak and .kde4.bak (you will lose all your personal kde customisations temporarily) and then log out and log back in. I guess you could instead try to create a temporary new user and use that account instead as well. [06:46] alright [06:47] ok, renamed, logging out [06:48] alright, logged back in [06:50] do you have new .kde* directories? [06:50] yes [06:50] both .kde and .kde4 [06:51] and the hanging? [06:51] how come wifi doesn't work on my laptop? [06:51] tried open office, same result [06:52] the hanging actually seems like it might be worse [06:53] Count, go try ubuntu 9.04 [06:53] it's much better [06:53] lovely [06:53] :/ [06:53] I was thinking of upgrading, but I can't do it on my internet connection [06:54] Count: I agree with that - I think upgrading to jaunty is your best bet if you want to retain kde4. [06:54] I don't care about retaining kde4 [06:54] it's just that I'm kind of stuck with kde4 if kde3.5 essentially isn't working [06:54] Count: you can just download the alternate ISO and use that to upgrade. [06:55] er, I download things at 30kb/s [06:55] Count: what happens when you try apt-get remove kdebase-kde4 ? [06:55] Captain_Haddock, yup, wifi didn't work with kubuntu and ubuntu did its job [06:55] with a 10gb monthly download cap [06:55] Count, order free ubuntu cds [06:56] nah, I have access to a better computer connection if I need to upgrade [06:56] I just need to arrange it [06:56] Count: you can just download the CD overnight.. I don't have all that faster a connection... (no data caps though) [06:56] what happens when you try apt-get remove kdebase-kde4 ? [06:57] it wants to remove all of the kde4 programs [06:58] Count: you could give it a try, disable the backports repository and try to recover 3.5... no idea what will happen though [06:58] it's not worth it [06:58] * Captain_Haddock is all out of ideas. [06:58] either I'll upgrade, live with it how it is, which I've done for a few months [06:58] or I'll switch over to gnome [06:58] Captain_Haddock, /away [06:59] good luck with it [06:59] Okay: ? [06:59] thank you Captain_Haddock, for all of the help [06:59] you're welcome :) === salil_ is now known as minus007 [07:42] vvgh [07:57] :D [08:30] Has anyone else here experienced rendering problems in Matlab on kubuntu? Any 3d figure ends up with a black background and some ghost versions of itself when I rotate it. Pretty much all text also gets garbled. I'm guessing it may be a driver issue, but I'm not sure. [08:35] I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu. [08:37] I tried going "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and the terminal gave me this. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [08:41] ThatGuyOverThere: Close Update-Manager or any windows that may be using administration-level power. [08:42] 'Kay, thanks. [08:42] I tried logging out and logging back in, but I guess that didn't do it. [08:45] ThatGuyOverThere: Do you ever know if you have admin power? Were you able to install packages yourself or somebody set up the computer for you? [08:45] ThatGuyOverThere: Something is using the admin power or you don't have the admin power. Either one. [08:46] No, I set up the computer myself. [08:46] I'm an admin. [08:46] I guess something must be running. [08:48] ThatGuyOverThere: The fast workaround would be restart. The slow workaround would be finding out what is using the sudo power. [08:48] A reboot should do it. I just didn't feel like waiting. [08:52] is kubuntu going to overwrite my /etc/network/interfaces file? [08:57] j: Don't hold me on this, but I don't think it will. Just in case, copy the file for backup if it's that important to you. I doubt it myself though. [08:58]