[13:58] <JontheEchidna> Hello guys, would you happen to know off-hand which  portion of the software stack this patch is for? http://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=27838
[13:59]  * JontheEchidna needs to apply it to test an upstream bug
[14:18] <Ng> looks kernely
[14:31] <JontheEchidna> meh, thanks
[20:26] <jbarnes> superm1: just curious, do you guys have anything like the inspiron 1210 but with intel graphics and a nicer keyboard layout?
[20:26] <jbarnes> the shift, /, uparrow thing really sucks :p
[20:26] <superm1> jbarnes, 1210. let me see what model this is (I only know codenames generally)
[20:27] <jbarnes> some kind of mini
[20:27] <superm1> oh mini 12
[20:27] <jbarnes> I should say "non-gma500 intel gfx" :)
[20:27] <superm1> haha
[20:27] <superm1> i was gonna say..
[20:27] <superm1> well nothing that's still considered a mini at that size
[20:28] <jbarnes> I like the form factor
[20:28] <jbarnes> it's light & slim
[20:28] <jbarnes> screen is reasonable as is keyboard size
[20:28] <jbarnes> but gma500.. :(
[20:28] <superm1> if you are hoping for an atom et'al, your next best bet is the 10v
[20:28]  * jbarnes looks
[20:28] <superm1> but that screen is significantly smaller by comparison
[20:29] <superm1> that's the little sucker I was lugging around at uds
[20:29] <jbarnes> looks about the same size as the aspireone
[20:29] <jbarnes> smaller than I was thinking
[20:30] <superm1> well there are 13" form factor "laptops" too
[20:30] <jbarnes> ah yeah
[20:31] <superm1> the studio xps works everything OOTB, but it's not intel gfx.  the inspiron i'd expect is needing a slew of audio quirks and what not still
[20:31] <jbarnes> ug
[20:33] <superm1> we ship the inspiron 15 with linux worldwide, but the 13 only gets basic QA
[20:33] <superm1> eg major BIOS issues get sorted out
[20:35] <jbarnes> hm 13 looks pretty nice though
[20:35] <jbarnes> shift is still next to uparrow, but it looks better than the mini 12
[20:37] <superm1> i'm not sure if it's one of the retail models. you might be able to go check it out at best buy or similar
[20:40] <jbarnes> cool thanks
[20:49] <bryce> just got a 10v for my mother in law, just yesterday was teaching her to use it, she's very happy with it
[20:50] <Ng> my mum loves her mini9 :)
[20:51] <bryce> she was really worried the keyboard was going to be a bit cramped but she sat down and typed out a document with minimal problems - figuring out where the delete key was, accidentally hitting caps lock, etc.
[20:52] <bryce> jbarnes, I agree, a mini-12 would be an awesome size/weight for travel
[20:55] <bryce> jbarnes, btw, I'm about to do a git snapshot update of -intel so we can be sure to have an update of the driver in alpha-3.  I understand 2.8.0 is coming RSN.  Should I hold off a couple more hours, or is 2.8.0 more likely to come tomorrow?
[20:55] <Sarvatt> sounds like you might want something like an acer timeline jbarnes
[20:56] <bryce> Sarvatt, today's the last day for merging stuff in for alpha-3.  Any thing you think we need to upload?
[21:01] <Sarvatt> cant think of anything, there are alot of things you can update but probably better off holding off until after for things like xserver 1.6.2 that might need rebuilds
[21:01]  * bryce nods
[21:01] <Sarvatt> xf86-video-ati *still* doesnt build against xserver 1.6.2 yet lol
[21:02] <bryce> anything I can do to help there?
[21:04] <Sarvatt> the ati thing? nah they know about it just havent updated it yet, its only an issue with libdrm-radeon1 anyway
[21:04] <Sarvatt> libdrm would be really nice to update though
[21:05] <Sarvatt> but its not in debian
[21:05] <bryce> yeah noticed that earlier and have been thinking about doing it
[21:05] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=3f3c5be6f908272199ccf53f108b1124bfe0a00e
[21:05] <Sarvatt> thats an amazing commit :D
[21:11] <Sarvatt> yeah i take that back, ati is only an issue when libdrm-radeon1 exists with server 1.6.2, the problem is just in dri2 and karmic wont be getting that anytime soon probably since it needs mesa 7.6 for dri2
[21:14] <Sarvatt> i stuck to using 2.4.12+gitxxxx on edgers because we're using libdrm-radeon1 there and dont want the libdrm overridden by karmics
[21:15] <jbarnes> bryce: yeah I think cworth will do the 2.8 release today sometime
[21:16] <jbarnes> but I don't know for sure
[21:18] <Sarvatt> if you package 2.7.99.902 they'll release 2.8 a few hours later, thats how it works for me :)
[21:33] <Ng> jbarnes: I don't know what the gfx chipset is exactly but the HP mini Mi has a keyboard that's not particularly hateful :)
[21:33] <Ng> it's running some weird ubuntu derivative by default, but assuming it's not insane poulsbo nonsense, it should be easy enough to fix that ;)
[21:33] <bryce> Sarvatt, yeah :-)
[21:34] <jbarnes> Ng: cool
[21:34] <Ng> a couple of my teammates take them to conferences/sprints to work from