[00:00] <WIGGMPk> OttifantSir: I see.. thanks for your help.. was starting to upset me.. been working on this laptop for a few days now
[00:00] <aperson> sinbox, thanks
[00:00] <OttifantSir> WIGGMPk: Rather, they didn't enable the option because NTFS is considered an inferior filesystem to ext3/4, Reiser, JFS and XFS
[00:02] <SteveHill> pnglb: Unless you could entice the admin to install a cvs-ish clone on his/her machine, I don't know how to keep the server in sync with your system (unless you just ftp back to it.)  Perhaps someone else has a better clue.
[00:03] <pnglb> SteveHill: I don't know rsync, but if it allows me to open an ftp connection, compare, then send new/updated files, that should be enough.
[00:04] <OttifantSir> WIGGMPk: Probably, this is due to Gparted being a front-end for parted, while fdisk is just fdisk. Different features and command-sets and such
[00:04] <WIGGMPk> OttifantSir: so you think my disk's with fail down the raod?
[00:05] <stoked> what's the status of 9.04 with old ATI hardware?
[00:05] <stoked> have a Dell 610 with ATI X300 gpu
[00:05] <SteveHill> pnglb: rsync uses ssh/telnet to work its magic.  It pulls a director for a distant system, compares it to yours, then effects the transfer of changed items.
[00:05] <w_> como instalar programas de extensão bin no ubuntu?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> !es |  w_
[00:06] <OttifantSir> WIGGMPk: No, I don't think there's a risk of that. As I said, fdisk and parted are two different programs with different features and possibilities. fdisk might just not have the abilities with the current features.
[00:07] <SteveHill> !pt | w_
[00:07] <danny_> i installed one thing in synaptic and at this point i forget what it even was and without even looking at what that one thing was going to do to other applications i confirmed. now i have a few important apps gone like 'acetoneiso, flash plugin, picasa, nspluginwrapper, wine' i cant even go into synaptic and reinstall them http://www.imagebam.com/image/8ca4e342560012 and http://www.imagebam.com/image/d444a242560014
[00:07] <WIGGMPk> OttifantSir: alright, well I appreciate your input.. Makes me feel more comfortable using the system again
[00:08] <ahorner> HI, I have a Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 and I would like to use the side button as middle click instead of the actual middle click. Basically I want to map button 9 to use the function of button 2. How would I do that?
[00:09] <hacktolive> hi people, is there any easy way to remove all the packages on my system except the base system (ubuntu-desktop package)? I want to remove all the crap I installed...
[00:09] <danbhfive> ahorner: I kinda know how to do that
[00:09] <dewey> I installed ubuntu 9.04 and now when I 'startx' my keyboard and mouse do not work. What would cause this ?
[00:10] <MrPiracy> !es
[00:10] <thewanderer_> ahorner: see Gentoo Wiki, it has perfect documentation on mouse buttons which is not at all Gentoo-specific: http://en.gentoo-wiki.zugaina.org/index.php/HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse
[00:11] <MrPiracy> how do i restart X?
[00:12] <jrib> MrPiracy: why?
[00:12] <sergeykish_> Hello, So now I have unresponding netbook and SSH access, how can I found problem?
[00:12] <jrib> sergeykish_: top?
[00:12] <danbhfive> MrPiracy: restart gdm I think
[00:13] <sergeykish_> jrib: CPU 0%
[00:13] <jrib> sergeykish_: what do you mean by "unresponding"?
[00:14] <MrPiracy> jrib: why what?
[00:14] <daishadar> is there a way to make a keyboard shortcut to raise a specific window that has been minimized to the notification tray?
[00:14] <jrib> MrPiracy: why do you want to restart X?...
[00:14] <sergeykish_> jrib: I mean that can move mouse but applications doesn't respond
[00:14] <jrib> daishadar: check out wmctrl
[00:14] <jrib> sergeykish_: try restarting X
[00:14] <MrPiracy> jrib: to apply the new settings, i am editing xorg.conf
[00:14] <jrib> MrPiracy, sergeykish_: sudo service gdm restart
[00:14] <thewanderer_> sergeykish: what desktop environment and apps are you running? anything with 3d accel, possibly?
[00:15] <epalm> i'd like to get a pci firewire card to connect various external HDDs with, is there a PCI firewire card in particular that's known to be ubuntu-friendly?
[00:15] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: just firefox 3.5
[00:15] <MrPiracy> jrib: gonna try that, brb
[00:15] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: and xterm
[00:15] <thewanderer_> sergeykish_: are you, by any chance, running Adobe Flash plugin?
[00:15] <duckwars> does ubuntu automatically make a user called "root" that has root permissions, and can this user be accesed from a remote login?
[00:16] <sergeykish_> jrib: I get that error each half of the hour, so need to fix it
[00:16] <jrib> !root | duckwars
[00:16] <jrib> duckwars: ssh isn't even installed by default
[00:16] <duckwars> thanks
[00:16] <duckwars> this is incredible bad news for me
[00:16] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: there is no adobe flash in loaded tabs, but I have it installed
[00:17] <jrib> duckwars: why?
[00:17] <arrrghhh> hrm.  anyone ever used MPD?
[00:17] <soreau> So how do you install a gdm theme? I already know how to install gtk themes..
[00:17] <duckwars> I'm pretty sure I useradd'ed over my only admin account
[00:17] <jrib> arrrghhh: someone has probably used at some point in time, yes
[00:17] <thewanderer_> arrrghhh: I have. on Debian.
[00:17] <jrib> duckwars: you don't have physical access?
[00:17] <duckwars> not at this very moment, I will tonight though
[00:17] <Mites> Is it possible to have desktop effects enabled with open source ATI drivers?
[00:17] <thewanderer_> sergeykish_: you could try and kill firefox and its plugins.
[00:17] <arrrghhh> jrib, very funny.  i was hoping for some help with it, but i figured it out.  using the wrong IP.
[00:18] <jrib> arrrghhh: it's best to just ask your question
[00:18] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: One more thing - I have GMA500 driver installed
[00:18] <jmigel> Mites yes
[00:18] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: I'll trye
[00:18] <Mites> jmigel: I cant get it to work.. is it a quick solution to this problem?
[00:19] <jmigel> Mites what is the result of typing this at command line 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[00:19] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: I've killed it, nothing changed... Screen is not updated
[00:19] <wing3d> alguém tem exploit para joomla?
[00:19] <sergeykish_> *is not updating
[00:19] <jrib> wing3d: nao.  vai embora.
[00:19] <Mites> jmigel: direct rendering: Yes
[00:20] <thewanderer_> sergeykish_: if you are running a default install of Ubuntu, the compositing window effects might be the cause of your problems. I was experiencing the same with KDE4 on Debian (Intel graphics).
[00:20] <jmigel> Mites just turn the crap on and go
[00:20] <wing3d> pq ir embora?
[00:20] <Mites> doesnt work.. I tried already
[00:20] <jmigel> Mites what doesnt work about it
[00:20] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: compiz disabled
[00:21] <Mites> jmigel:  it says "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[00:21] <jrib> wing3d: primeiro, este canal e so para ingles.  Mas mais importante, nenhum dos canais do ubuntu sao paro exploits.  #ubuntu-br se tems um problema para resolver com o ubuntu (nao exploits)
[00:21] <wing3d> sabe algum canal para exploits?
[00:21] <wing3d> haha
[00:21] <jrib> wing3d: nao.
[00:21] <Emery> what application does ubuntu use for updates
[00:21] <duckwars> jrib: so now that I have no one in the admin group, am I just screwed? The guide you linked to me says that "BY DEFAULT, THE ROOT ACCOUNT PASSWORD IS LOCKED IN UBUNTU"
[00:22] <jmigel> Mites what architecture you running?
[00:22] <jrib> duckwars: with physical access, just load "recovery mode" from the grub prompt
[00:22] <Dulak> duckwars: you can boot single user mode and fix your groups
[00:22] <duckwars> aha!
[00:22] <thewanderer_> Emery: apt-get or aptitude...
[00:22] <Emery> no
[00:22] <duckwars> thank you very much
[00:22] <jmigel> Mites in command line type 'uname -a'
[00:22] <Emery> i updates
[00:22] <Emery> like security updates
[00:22] <Emery> ect
[00:22] <Mites> jmigel: Linux 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:22] <thewanderer_> Emery: apt-get and aptitude handle that for you. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade;
[00:23] <Emery> no your misunderstanding
[00:23] <thewanderer_> Emery: for the graphical part, I think it is update-notifier
[00:23] <Emery> ah
[00:23] <jmigel> Mites, sorry pal that all looks good I cant really help... maybe google?
[00:24] <thewanderer_> sergeykish_: then it's going to be a hard time tracing the lockup. It could be virtually anything. Check dmesg and /var/log/messages for program errors, inspect ps aux, see memory usage and hardware stats (temperature).
[00:24] <Wolfman3k5> hello
[00:24] <Wolfman3k5> is anyone here familiar with Aptana?
[00:24] <sinbox>                       long blank ensues
[00:25] <Mites> jmigel: thanks anyways:) I will try to google some more and check back here later if I dont find any solution
[00:25] <thewanderer_> sergeykish_: running a system integrity check is not a bad idea (debsums or similar). You might want to run a SMART check on your hard disks...
[00:25] <iMatter> how do i blacklist a module
[00:26] <thewanderer_> iMatter: append its name (one per line) to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[00:26] <iMatter> thewanderer_, thanks with blacklist infront of it?
[00:26] <thewanderer_> iMatter: yes
[00:26] <soreau> Does anyone know what a gdm theme is or how to install one?
[00:27] <iMatter> soreau, theme for your login, and gnome-looks.org is a good site
[00:27] <coolio> soreau: login window theme, copy to /usr/share/gdm/themes or use system > preferences > login window
[00:27] <soreau> Oh yea, I should've known
[00:27] <coolio> soreau: system > admin > login window that is I think
[00:27] <soreau> iMatter: coolio: Thanks, I know what it means now
[00:30] <iMatter> How do i make a kernal default in Ubuntu Jaunty
[00:30] <hittt> is there a file, that runs commands with root access on boot time/ user login?
[00:31] <hvgotcodes> dammit -- i have been upgrading to jaunty, and the thing froze.  no processor usage.  stuck on phpmyadmin.  if i kill it is my system in  an unclean state?
[00:31] <SnakDoc> getting this when compiling amarok http://pastebin.com/d5165993 can't find in repo and ideas ?
[00:31] <thewanderer_> hittt: see /etc/init.d - you can write your own initscripts from SKELETON
[00:32] <hittt> ok thx i will look
[00:32] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: you should be safe to kill it. If it complains, then dpkg --configure -a should handle the rest.
[00:33] <th0r> hittt: the only way I know to do that is to create an init script that runs at bootup
[00:33] <hvgotcodes> thewanderer_, but what do i do after i kill synaptic?
[00:33] <hittt> init has root access?
[00:33] <hvgotcodes> it hasnt finished installing packages, or cleaned up
[00:33] <LordMetroid> Is there an Ubuntu version that does not install any but the barebone system?
[00:33] <thewanderer_> hittt: see ps aux
[00:33] <Infinteloop> Hi I downloaded some nautilus scripts from g-scripts where is the nautilus script directory in 9.04
[00:33] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: synaptic uses apt-get under the good I believe
[00:34] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: s/good/hood/
[00:34] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: was it installing, or configuring packages when it froze?
[00:34] <hvgotcodes> thewanderer_, so just kill synaptic and restart?
[00:34] <sergeykish_> thewanderer_: thanks
[00:35] <Cyber_Akuma> GParted keeps automounting all my partitions when I start it, how do I stop that so I can actually edit the partitions?
[00:35] <danny_> i installed one thing in synaptic and at this point i forget what it even was and without even looking at what that one thing was going to do to other applications i confirmed. now i have a few important apps gone like 'acetoneiso, flash plugin, picasa, nspluginwrapper, wine' i cant even go into synaptic and reinstall them http://www.imagebam.com/image/8ca4e342560012 and http://www.imagebam.com/image/d444a242560014
[00:36] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: if it was configuring packages, do a "dpkg --configure -a" first then go back to Synaptic. If installing, a simple restart should be ok.
[00:36] <shaullx> !vpn
[00:36] <hittt> Cyber_Akuma: umount /dev/xdxx
[00:37] <Cyber_Akuma> half the time gparted refreashes then remounts it
[00:37] <Cyber_Akuma> refreshes*
[00:37] <coolio> Infinteloop: $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[00:37] <thewanderer_> danny_: try through apt-get and check /etc/apt/sources.list, update your package lists afterwards
[00:37] <shaullx> what apps can i get to connect to vpn?
[00:38] <edge> f
[00:38] <danny_> thewanderer_, http://pastebin.com/m4f924ad5
[00:38] <hvgotcodes> thewanderer_, ok the dpkg command completed.  now restart?
[00:39] <Infinteloop> thanks
[00:39] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: yes
[00:39] <hvgotcodes> k thanx
[00:40] <thewanderer_> danny_: it looks fine. no errors can be seen. now you could try and fire up Synaptic...
[00:40] <arrrghhh> ok, now i have an issue with MPD.  i'm trying to get a webUI to connect to it, and i had one called "theory" that worked, but only partially - and it was fairly ugly, v0.1.8 and was old.  anyways, i'm using relaXX now, which looks amazing, seems to have connected - it has all of my musc in the list - but it won't show what's playing now or control mpd at all like the "theory" webui was able to - any suggestions?
[00:40] <danny_> thewanderer_, there were error with flash again
[00:41] <thewanderer_> danny_: you could remove flashplugin-nonfree temporarily, then try without it
[00:42] <thewanderer_> danny_: either that, or "dpkg --configure -a"
[00:43] <danny_> thewanderer_, http://pastebin.com/m1b7395c8
[00:43] <arrrghhh> so does anyone know why an mpd-client would be able to see music but not see what's playing or be able to control mpd at all?  i don't have a password for mpd, is that an issue?
[00:44] <thewanderer_> danny_: try "sudo dpkg --configure flashplugin-installer"
[00:45] <danny_> thewanderer_, http://pastebin.com/m72a30
[00:46] <Svenstaro> Some user tell me please: Do you have /etc/hal/fdi/policy or /etc/hal/fdi/policies (note the plural)?
[00:46] <sergeykish> I've kill a bunch of process, restart GDM but nothing changes - still same picture on the screen, can it help found bug?
[00:46] <thewanderer_> Svenstaro: policy
[00:47] <thewanderer_> danny_: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer
[00:47] <Svenstaro> thewanderer_, ty
[00:47] <skibiliano> Hello everybody
[00:48] <Eiles> arrrghhh, you can set the rights for each users with relaxx player, read http://relaxx.dirk-hoeschen.de/index.php?StaticPage/Page/id/2
[00:48] <thewanderer_> sergeykish: basically, when gdm starts, it should occupy vt7. Have you checked vt7? Is gdm unable to allocate a screen? If so, check X.org logs and prepare for some bug digging...
[00:48] <arrrghhh> Eiles, i'm logged in as the admin user.
[00:48] <skibiliano> I have a crashing bug with ubuntu 8.04 Hardy, upon going to a certain forum thread in firefox
[00:48] <BugsCrash> Help Please. Im Install Ubuntu REmix on HTC Shift (Ubuntu 9.04) but the Touch and de Wireless donsent work.
[00:48] <skibiliano> I mean, firefox just crashes
[00:49] <skibiliano> But it works on my Windows XP computers using firefox
[00:49] <danny_> thewanderer_, http://pastebin.com/m637bb31e
[00:50] <thewanderer_> skibiliano: update Firefox and see if the problem persists. If yes, check what components are running (Flash? loads of JavaScript?), if it's not plugins then it might be a Firefox bug
[00:50] <danbhfive> BugsCrash: have you tried regular ubuntu?
[00:50] <skibiliano> How can you update firefox on ubuntu?
[00:50] <skibiliano> the button for checking for updates in firefox is grayed out
[00:51] <skibiliano> and I am not so familiar with the gnome-terminal commands
[00:51] <arrrghhh> Eiles, besikdes, by default anonymous users should be able to see/control the currently playing music etc.
[00:51] <SnakDoc> !ff3.5 | skibiliano
[00:51] <skibiliano> as I previously mentioned
[00:51] <skibiliano> I have Hardy 8.04
[00:51] <SnakDoc> sorry i missed that part :(
[00:51] <th0r> skibiliano: you update software in ubuntu via synaptic on the system menu.
[00:52] <jluhavalja> Installed 9.04 on a friends machine. No sound. Anyone know a fix or a cheap sound card that is compatible?
[00:52] <Maleko> how do you untar file that has been tar with -z option (compressed)?
[00:52] <thewanderer_> danny_: you are running an alpha version of Ubuntu, which contains bugs. For now, run "sudo mkdir /var/cache/flashplugin-installer" and then go on with "dpkg --configure -a"
[00:52] <skibiliano> Checking for updates.... While it's doing that, I have an another problem with ubuntu's firefox
[00:53] <skibiliano> No updates visible according to this, anyway, the problem is that my flash can't be updated from 9.0.4 to 10
[00:53] <skibiliano> I downloaded the .deb from official site so it could update to 10, it installed properly
[00:53] <danbhfive> skibiliano: why haven't you upgraded in general?
[00:53] <sergeykish> thewanderer_: X11 run on vt7, I can't kill it
[00:54] <skibiliano> Umm, what do you mean by upgrading in general?
[00:54] <funcky1>  /what is that program called that is summoned by command "vi"?
[00:54] <danbhfive> skibiliano: well, you are running 8.04, why don't upgrade to 9.04?
[00:54] <danny_> thewanderer_, is this all going well? http://pastebin.com/m56192451
[00:54] <skibiliano> well, how easy is updating to 9.04?
[00:54] <th0r> danbhfive: you might not want to go there...if I knew what I know now I would have installed hardy instead of jaunty
[00:54] <skibiliano> Do i need to remove 8.04 and install 9.04?
[00:54] <skibiliano> or is it applied on it?
[00:54] <hittt> vim?
[00:55] <skibiliano> I don't have access to any blank CD's or DVD's at the current moment
[00:55] <funcky1> !who
[00:55] <th0r> skibiliano: if you have 8.04 working fairly well...why upgrade? it might cause more trouble than it is worth
[00:55] <allenbeme> #xubuntu
[00:56] <danbhfive> th0r: well, I always upgrade, but I also run multiple versions of ubuntu.  One as my main install, one to test the next distro
[00:56] <GeorgeAScott> so i've got my webcam working finally with flash, can anybody help me figure out why the picture is so dark?
[00:56] <Cyber_Akuma> I always wanted to use the latest, never was a fan of the "why upgrade" philosophy
[00:56] <thewanderer_> danny_: it looks fine. now do "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree" and all should be well.
[00:56] <funcky1>  /what is that program called that is summoned by command "vi"?
[00:56] <skibiliano> It is working quite well th0r, but occasionally there are few bugs, like umm, sounds disappear after few hours of use completely until you reboot
[00:56] <Cyber_Akuma> .... its called vi
[00:56] <Cyber_Akuma> a text editor
[00:56] <Cyber_Akuma> ... one that most linux users love but I honestly cannot STAND
[00:56] <skibiliano> And when the sounds disappear, menus stop working, they don't respond, I have to press the shutdown button for it to reboot
[00:56] <danbhfive> th0r: I do it with multiple partitions...
[00:56] <BugsCrash> [danbhfive]: Yes , but dont work to .
[00:57] <th0r> danbhfive: well...I have learned that if it is working not to mess with it. Jaunty got me ati drivers that don't work, fusesmb that doesn't work....we won't even start on pulse
[00:57] <mattgyver> How can i start a service on boot, im setting up a bnc on a server and want to have it start on boot.
[00:57] <danny_> thewanderer_, http://pastebin.com/m54daecd0
[00:57] <Cyber_Akuma> Mainly because many people of that mentality refuse to update windows either
[00:57] <Cyber_Akuma> and seriously, thats just stupid, refusing to apply security updates in case it breaks something
[00:57] <skibiliano> Who are you talking to Cyber?
[00:58] <debac1e> I'm reading guides on setting up wireless, and they keep referring to "System > Administration > Networking" (which I don't have) and "Enable roaming mode" (which I can't find in System > Admin > Network Tools, nor in Preferences > Network Connections), I'm using jaunty, has this been moved?
[00:58] <thewanderer_> mattgyver: write an init script. start with /etc/init.d/skeleton
[00:58] <Cyber_Akuma> th0r and skibiliano
[00:58] <danbhfive> Cyber_Akuma: yeah, but windows is different than ubuntu.  th0r does have some valid points
[00:58] <Cyber_Akuma> I kow
[00:58] <thewanderer_> danny_: I meant flashplugin-nonfree . It is already late ;P
[00:58] <Cyber_Akuma> 8.10 to 9.04 is more like 2000 to xp
[00:58] <Cyber_Akuma> than a SP
[00:58] <skibiliano> How exactly do you update 8.04 to 9.04?
[00:58] <th0r> Cyber_Akuma: I never mentioned security updates...those are a separate issue from upgrading a release
[00:58] <mattgyver> thewanderer_ by doing so will that always cause it to run as root, or must you explicitly run it as sudo for that to happen?
[00:58] <skibiliano> Do you need a blank CD
[00:58] <danbhfive> BugsCrash: what was your question? I didnt follow
[00:58] <skibiliano> or something
[00:59] <Cyber_Akuma> just saying th0r, that many people I met who say that also refuse to update windows or anything XD
[00:59] <danbhfive> !upgrade | skibiliano
[00:59] <funcky1> how do i get the manual for vi and not vim?
[00:59] <th0r> Cyber_Akuma: 8.04 to 9.04 is more like XP to Vista...and we know how well that worked out
[00:59] <thewanderer_> funcky1: vi is an alias for vim in Ubuntu I believe.
[00:59] <Cyber_Akuma> I honestly prefer nano to vi, I feel its a lot more logical
[00:59] <Pici> !offtopic | Cyber_Akuma
[00:59] <funcky1> actually you know what. someone just tell me how to save a file in vi please!
[00:59] <thewanderer_> mattgyver: it will be forked from init, so it will run as root. You should either instruct the program to drop privileges or do that via sudo.
[01:00] <Cyber_Akuma> ummm, vi and nano are linux text editors
[01:00] <Cyber_Akuma> thats not off topic
[01:00] <debac1e> funcky1: ":h" or something like that to view the help
[01:00] <thewanderer_> funcky1: escape from insert mode (press Escalpe), then type :w
[01:00] <th0r> skibiliano: anyway...if you want to upgrade to 9.04 you might want to consider doing a fresh install, sometimes the upgrade doesn't go so well
[01:00] <danny_> thewanderer_, ok it worked
[01:00] <mattgyver> thewanderer_, thanks I will look into that
[01:00] <Pici> Cyber_Akuma: This isn't a discussion channel, but #ubuntu-offtopic is.
[01:00] <danny_> thewanderer_, thanks. u have any idea y the acetone install isnt working?
[01:01] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, nobody would answer my swap question >.<
[01:01] <debac1e> where is "enable roaming mode" for wireless in jaunty?
[01:01] <thewanderer_> danny_: that'd be difficult to guess. have you got any logs of the install attempt?
[01:01] <egc> hi all
[01:01] <Pici> Cyber_Akuma: You might need to ask it again, I don't even see it in the past 20 of your lines.
[01:02] <funcky1> when i try to close the terminal window it keeps telling me "closing this terminal window will kill it!"
[01:02] <egc> if i have an ubuntu installation taking up the whole disk, can I resize it so that i can install windows?
[01:02] <thewanderer_> funcky1: exit vim with :q
[01:02] <debac1e> funcky1: you need to exit the running programs first
[01:02] <egc> i forget if ext3 can be shrunk
[01:02] <Cyber_Akuma> egc: is the data or just the partition taking up the whole disk?
[01:02] <Cyber_Akuma> ive resized ext3 partitions before
[01:02] <hvgotcodes> is it worthwhile to add noatime to fstab?
[01:02] <skibiliano> I am going to go with the progressive updating, thanks for all the help, Ubuntu rules
[01:02] <egc> Cyber_Akuma: just the partition
[01:03] <egc> i dont have too much data
[01:03] <Cyber_Akuma> you should be able to then
[01:03] <funcky1> thanks :o)
[01:03] <uknow_> is there a way to make my wireless card stronger
[01:03] <egc> Cyber_Akuma: great, thanks
[01:03] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: you can live happily with relatime, and on laptops it is pretty desirable
[01:03] <Cyber_Akuma> uknow_: not impossible but hard to do with software, especially unofficial, usually its done by modifying the antenna
[01:03] <egc> ill use a bootable GPartEd
[01:03] <hvgotcodes> thewanderer_, hmm it is doing that for my / partition but not for my other partition
[01:03] <GeorgeAScott> what would be the best tool to adjust video settings for a webcam like brightness and contrast... xawtv isn't working
[01:04] <gogeta> relly thinking abought making a pxe oot of my old c610
[01:04] <gogeta> dead hdd
[01:04] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: it is generally safe to use relatime for all Linux partitions
[01:04] <danny_> thewanderer_, http://pastebin.com/m7abecdc4 i searched for the 3 newly installed packages mentioned on the bottom and they were all uninstalled
[01:04] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: but noatime adds little profit for the casual user
[01:04] <Ricochet> Hey guys, i am running ubuntu 8.10 on my Asus Eee Top 1602, and was wondering how if anyone could help me out on how to edit the xorg.conf file.. i am a noob so please bare with me
[01:04] <uknow> yeah i moded my other antenna
[01:05] <thewanderer_> danny_: so what happens when you try to install acetoneiso?
[01:05] <uknow> and yeah my internet keep cutting in and out
[01:05] <hvgotcodes> thewanderer_, i cannot replace relatime with noatime for /
[01:05] <hvgotcodes> ?
[01:05] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there a version of the xubuntuy livecd that has the option to load itself completely into ram?
[01:06] <Cyber_Akuma> xubuntu*
[01:06] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: ubuntu is way to big to load into ram
[01:06] <danbhfive> Cyber_Akuma: I remember someone posting a link about that, but I never understood the point.  If you have lot's of ram, linux will cache everything
[01:06] <Cyber_Akuma> xubuntu
[01:06] <OttifantSir> Ricochet: n00b is a harsh phrase, meaning someone pretending to know "everything", then complains when his/her way doesn't work. A newb/newbie is one who doesn't have experience, but recognizes that, and asks for help.
[01:06] <thewanderer_> hvgotcodes: you can do it, but it usually means no big performance improvement... you can safely try and see how it works for you.
[01:07] <skibiliano> That didn't take long
[01:07] <Cyber_Akuma> not ubuntu
[01:07] <skibiliano> I got an error
[01:07] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: any dirretiv all to big
[01:07] <skibiliano> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz nouto ei onnistunut  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[01:07] <hvgotcodes> thewanderer_, thanx
[01:07] <Cyber_Akuma> Oh BTW, my swap question
[01:07] <skibiliano> I am using finnish version but it means it couldn't retrieve that
[01:07] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: your looking at 2gb into ram
[01:07] <skibiliano> I am trying to update from 8.04 Hardy LDS to 8.10 Intrepid
[01:08] <arrrghhh> anyone know how to create playlists in mpd?  the webui seems to be working now, not sure why.
[01:08] <BacTalan> I just switched my laptop to Ubuntu (9.04) and whenever I try to suspend it it kernel panics. There's nothing in the logs. This happens both on the original kernel and on 2.6.31. Any ideas?
[01:08] <th0r> uknow_: not really
[01:08] <Cyber_Akuma> I have two linux operating systems, and I created tow swap partitions for them, how can I set it so each distro only uses it's own partition?
[01:08] <Cyber_Akuma> and they don't touch each other's?
[01:08] <th0r> skibiliano: why are you trying to use the edgy archive...I thought you said you had 8.04
[01:08] <Ricochet> OttifantSir: haha sorry, then I am a newbie.. trust me, i dont know much about this stuff at all.. so i pass as a newbie
[01:08] <Cyber_Akuma> I have ubuntu and opensuse installed
[01:08] <th0r> skibiliano: but the error you posted was for an edgy repo
[01:08] <skibiliano> The heck?
[01:08] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: they should share the same swap point you dont need 2
[01:08] <skibiliano> The system itself took those
[01:08] <Maleko> how do you untar file that has been tar with -z option (compressed)?
[01:08] <Cyber_Akuma> gogeta: ubuntu suspends to the swap partition
[01:08] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: see /etc/fstab, if it's not listed in there, then see /etc/init.d/ - look for swapon
[01:08] <danbhfive> gogeta: unless he is hibernating...
[01:08] <Cyber_Akuma> it would be a mess
[01:08] <gogeta> true
[01:09] <skibiliano> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades I used that site's instructions
[01:09] <skibiliano> and it found the 8.10 as intented
[01:09] <Cyber_Akuma> /etc/fstab is a file?
[01:09] <thewanderer_> Maleko: the same way, just with tar xzf $FILENAME
[01:09] <Cyber_Akuma> how would I understand it?
[01:09] <skibiliano> but when I tried to update it, at the 3rd phase or something, it threw that error
[01:09] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: man 5 fstab
[01:09] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: i would just adjust the swap mount point to the other
[01:09] <danbhfive> skibiliano: whats the error?
[01:09] <Cyber_Akuma> ........ wait, so there isn't an APP called fstab?
[01:10] <skibiliano> it's finnish but
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma> I have to say, this really clears up a lot of confusion then
[01:10] <skibiliano> W:Tiedoston http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz nouto ei onnistunut  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[01:10] <Cyber_Akuma> lots of people told me about it, I thought it was a commandline app, not a config file
[01:10] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: it should be in fstab
[01:10] <skibiliano> File (The url) retrieval did not succeed
[01:11] <Ricochet> So can anyone help me edit xorg.conf? what is the terminal command?
[01:11] <gogeta> eg change /dev/sa1 swap to /dev/sda2 swpa
[01:11] <gogeta> swap
[01:11] <danbhfive> Cyber_Akuma: well, if its listed in fstab, its as simple as commenting out the line that is point to the swap you don't want to be enabled
[01:11] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:11] <Cyber_Akuma> I see
[01:11] <gogeta> or howvere it looks on your system
[01:11] <OttifantSir> Cyber_Akuma: fstab (as I understand it) means FileSystemTable. A kind of billboard on how the filesystems connect to eachother and the OS. It's a file, more like a script actually, not an application.
[01:11] <Cyber_Akuma> and I would do the same in the opensuse partoton's fstab file?
[01:11] <Ricochet> thewanderer: isnt it gedit or something like that?
[01:11] <skibiliano> No wait, It stopped at second phase
[01:11] <danbhfive> Cyber_Akuma: ya
[01:11] <rainleong> \q
[01:11] <skibiliano> it returned the system to the phase before I tried to update
[01:11] <rainleong> leave
[01:11] <rainleong> \leave
[01:11] <Cyber_Akuma> And can I use fstab to automount other partitions? like my Vista partition?
[01:11] <skibiliano> And I am back to square one
[01:11] <danny_> thewanderer_, all is well. thank u very much
[01:12] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: as long as it points to the other then you whont need to
[01:12] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: you can do that from the command line, from the GUI or anything, it's your choice
[01:12] <danny_> thewanderer_, this all started when i tried to fix choppy 5.1 on vlc player
[01:12] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: linux normaly uses the first it finds
[01:12] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: awesome thank you!
[01:12] <danbhfive> !fstab | Cyber_Akuma
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma> gogeta: I always preferred telling my systems to do or not do something instead of let them figure out whgat is best..... because they never do it correctly...
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma> which is why I specifically want to tell them "use this, DON'T use this"
[01:13] <thewanderer_> danny_: I see... it's quite unwise to run an alpha version of software unless you know to hose the system. I would look into apt-pinning to stay with the stable version of Ubuntu.
[01:13] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: is there a way i can put it into a text file and edit it?
[01:14] <colloguy> is there a gnome menubar applet that simply displays the result of an arbitrary terminal command?
[01:14] <skibiliano> Well? does anyone know what is causing the 404 error while trying to update from 8.04 to 8.10?
[01:14] <uknow> ok first i have vista and ubuntu two HD's one with vista the other with ubuntu on ubuntu i can see the windows files and hard drive but on windows i cant see the harddrive with linux
[01:15] <BacTalan> I just switched my laptop to Ubuntu (9.04) and whenever I try to suspend it it kernel panics. There's nothing in the logs. This happens both on the original kernel and on 2.6.31. Any ideas?
[01:15] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: you can basically open gedit as root. try "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in the command line.
[01:15] <danbhfive> skibiliano: can you describe the error in more detaul?
[01:15] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: you are a life saver
[01:15] <OttifantSir> uknow: You need ext3-drivers for Windows to see the contents of a linux-partition/-drive
[01:15] <danbhfive> BacTalan: have you tried a clean install?  If so, you should certainly file a bug
[01:15] <uknow> ohh ok
[01:15] <BacTalan> danbhfive: I did a clean install yesterday, and it's had it since then.
[01:16] <th0r> uknow: if you used a linux format for the ubuntu drive windows won't be able to reaad it
[01:16] <thewanderer_> colloguy: I don't know of such an applet, yet you can try and write your own. GTK is not that difficult. find some example applets on the 'net then edit then to fit your needs.
[01:16] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: now that I have edited it, is there a way to restart the xorg.conf file? to see if my resolution will work now?
[01:16] <uknow> nah i used windows to formate the drive i think ntsf i think the common one
[01:17] <danbhfive> uknow: last time I checked, I could not get vista to see ext drives
[01:17] <OttifantSir> uknow: Another little "feature" from Windows to disencourage new Linux-users. A google should give you the drivers needed at the top of the search.
[01:17] <uknow> but i still cant see the hard drive from windows
[01:17] <skibiliano> Tell me how to explain it in more detail: here's a small recap, I try to update my ubuntu, from 8.04 to 8.10, using the desktop way of ubuntu downloading the update itself. (Page with the instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades ) It does everything according to that, but suddenly it shows an error that http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.g
[01:17] <skibiliano> z retrieval did not succeed, 404 Not Found (IP: 91.189.88.140 80)
[01:17] <renic> how do i enable ssh login?
[01:17] <uknow> ohh ok
[01:17] <skibiliano> Then it cancels the updating procedure, and I am back to square one with 8.04
[01:17] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: the simplest way is just rebooting your computer.
[01:17] <th0r> danbhfive: I told him twice....look at the repo in the error message...he is trying to fetch an intrepid update from an edgy repo
[01:18] <skibiliano> I did not choose the sites it picks, the ubuntu said it downloaded a new set of packets to get them from
[01:18] <danbhfive> skibiliano: erm, you are trying to grab from an archive from a wrong repository
[01:18] <skibiliano> And how do I fix that?
[01:18] <danbhfive> th0r: ya
[01:18] <thewanderer_> renic: you install openssh-server. that should be everything.
[01:18] <danbhfive> skibiliano: whats lsb_release -a say?
[01:19] <rambo298> skibiliano: you may find many instances of that depending on what pkgs you have and what pkgs were dropped from 8.10; i had many, but just pushed on with the upgrade then, after fighting with nvidia driver issues, upgraded straight to 9.04
[01:19] <skibiliano> okay hold on
[01:19] <skibiliano> No LSB modules are available.
[01:19] <skibiliano> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:19] <skibiliano> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
[01:19] <skibiliano> Release:	8.04
[01:19] <skibiliano> Codename:	hardy
[01:19] <FloodBot3> skibiliano: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <danbhfive> skibiliano: ok, thats enough
[01:20] <danny_> thewanderer_, meaning i can downgrade to a stable version?
[01:20] <danbhfive> danny_: I think you need to reinstall to do that
[01:20] <renic> thewanderer: thanks - couldn't find anything in the gui tool.
[01:20] <thewanderer_> danny_: if you still need the alpha repositories, you should consider using apt-pinning.
[01:20] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: Ahh now i cant see anything? is there a way to revert back? so i can at least see my screen? I need some serious help.. i just want to get this darn thing working
[01:21] <danny_> thewanderer_, ok
[01:21] <colloguy> is there a gnome menu applet that simply displays the result of a terminal command? :P
[01:21] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: switch to vt1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1), login and run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf", revert your changes then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:22] <OttifantSir> colloguy: I know there's a Screenlet that will do it, but I don't know of a menu applet that would.
[01:22] <kebomix> is there any driver made for this webcam 17a1:0118  ?
[01:22] <scott> so i'm wondering what's slowing down graphics, like screensavers. i've got plenty of ram, what gives?
[01:23] <Shurup> z
[01:23] <colloguy> ottifantSir: oh yes, the terminal screenlet in a 'while true, wait, run' loop
[01:23] <jacekowski> speed at which CPU can deliver data to id
[01:23] <Shurup> hello
[01:23] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: i dont remember all of the changes, i am trying to follow some tutorial as to how to get my computer to run ubuntu properly and its just not working.. so i copied and pasted what they told me to
[01:23] <jacekowski> it*
[01:23] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: is there a way to revert back to a default?
[01:24] <jacekowski> Ricochet: reinstall
[01:24] <nafta> anyone ever saw a crashed irssi?
[01:24] <nafta> :(
[01:24] <jacekowski> nafta: i did
[01:24] <kebomix> is there any driver made for this webcam 17a1:0118  ?
[01:24] <Shurup> Windows must due london it the capital of great brittan
[01:24] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: you can get a fresh xorg.conf file and start from that
[01:24] <Ricochet> jacekowski: so reinstall the whole operating system because of xorg.conf? seems like a bit of a pain
[01:25] <danbhfive> Ricochet: if you are running jaunty, you should be able to remove xorg.conf, ie, rename it with mv
[01:25] <jacekowski> Ricochet: i was thinking that you have bigger problem
[01:25] <jacekowski> Ricochet: X -configure
[01:25] <danbhfive> !xconfig | Ricochet
[01:26] <OttifantSir> colloguy: I honestly don't know if you were being sarcastic there. I offered a suggestion, a *possible* solution to your problem. If that's not what you want, try going to www.gnome-look.org or www.gnome.org and look around
[01:26] <patricrawley> hey, I'm having issues with getting Banshee to work, can someone help me out?
[01:26] <Paddy_NI> !wontwork
[01:27] <Paddy_NI> err
[01:27] <Ricochet> ubottu: do i want the frame buffer?
[01:27] <skibiliano> I think I am going away for some sleep, Is my problem something that cannot be resolved in few minutes?
[01:27] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: I think you should answer "no".
[01:27] <danbhfive> skibiliano: well, I don't understand why its trying edgy files, but I can take a look at your sources if you like.
[01:28] <jacekowski> it's just really strange that there is a lot less users with problems on ##windows channel than here
[01:28] <skibiliano> Yeah sure danbhfive
[01:28] <Paddy_NI> !lnw | jacekowski
[01:28] <Paddy_NI> jacekowski: and typically windows users are not as resourceful
[01:28] <OttifantSir> skibiliano: From what I have read on your problem, you need to clean up your repos/sources.list before attempting to do what you want. It seems you have repos for an older version of Ubuntu than you currently have installed, and that's your problem.
[01:29] <Ricochet> AWESOME! I CAN SEE IT AGAIN!!
[01:29] <Ricochet> Thanks guys!
[01:29] <skibiliano> And how is that possible? I think I tampered with the sources one time earlier
[01:29] <skibiliano> But it was another problem
[01:29] <skibiliano> because of outdated repositery it used
[01:29] <skibiliano> I had to add /archive/ to one part of it
[01:29] <thewanderer_> Ricochet: just in case, always save a copy of xorg.conf before making changes
[01:29] <skibiliano> or something
[01:30] <Ricochet> thewanderer_: how do i do that?
[01:30] <platius> kebomix;   you might look here
[01:30] <patricrawley> When I launch banshee, the tray icon pops up but nothing else. No window in GNOME-Do and when I click the tray icon to launch the window, the window comes up but everything inside the window decoration is grey
[01:30] <kebomix> platius: look where :D
[01:30] <platius> kebomix;   http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-uvc-devel@lists.berlios.de/msg03881.html here
[01:30] <platius> kebomix;   oops
[01:30] <Ricochet> Does anyone have an Asus Eee Top who got ubuntu working properly who would be willing to help this newbie out? I am having so much trouble with this darn thing.
[01:31] <Interphase> Where does nautilus-connect server mount Shares?
[01:31] <Cyber_Akuma> GParted is showing one of my swap partitions as actually having a label, is there any way to change this?
[01:31] <colloguy> is there an irc client with especially good notifications (I want to be able to pop up balloons based on incoming messages (regexp matching would be sweet))?
[01:31] <danbhfive> skibiliano: just pastebin your whole /etc/apt/sources.list file
[01:31] <skibiliano> May I ask you how?
[01:31] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: filesystems have lavels, not partitions. You would need to recreate your swap fs.
[01:31] <skibiliano> I rarely use ubuntu other than on vacations
[01:31] <marks256> I had a samba share sharing a folder across my network. it stopped working after i networked my printer. now my printer works over the network, but no more folder share. any ideas?
[01:32] <OttifantSir> skibiliano: If your sources.list is messed up, I don't know if I'd be doing you a disservice by giving you a copy of one, and then tell you where to put it. It might be more you need to do than just that. Try asking if that's okay. And give your version of Ubuntu so people can put in the correct file.
[01:33] <skibiliano> Ottifantsir, as I mentioned some pages back, acocording to lsb_release -a, my version is 8.04.3
[01:33] <therazor> k es esto??
[01:33] <Cyber_Akuma> It has the label of a PREVIOUs partition that I deleted
[01:33] <Cyber_Akuma> in another os
[01:34] <danbhfive> skibiliano: can you: sudo apt-get install pastebinit   ?
[01:34] <kebomix> platius: can we talk in private ?
[01:34] <kellyh> skibiliano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783577 - any help?
[01:34] <skibiliano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/222308/
[01:35] <skibiliano> there's my sources
[01:35] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma, then you _might_ want to delete the partition and set it up again. Swap partitions having labels are not something to be afraid of, though...
[01:35] <Cyber_Akuma> also, can I renumber the sda# labels?
[01:35] <patricrawley> When I launch banshee, the tray icon pops up but nothing else. No window in GNOME-Do and when I click the tray icon to launch the window, the window comes up but everything inside the window decoration is grey
[01:35] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, its identifying itself as a stiorage partition, its just weird
[01:35] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[01:35] <Ricochet> Can someone help walk me through this process http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/  ?
[01:35] <Cyber_Akuma> because that was the partition I delted, a storage partition
[01:35] <kellyh> I've a weird problem with samba on 9.04-amd64
[01:35] <danbhfive> skibiliano: comment out 51 and delete 50, then give it a try
[01:35] <Ricochet> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/&ei=trtjSvKiCMK3lAeIppWECg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us
[01:36] <Ricochet> thats the translated version
[01:36] <FloodBot3> Ricochet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <Cyber_Akuma> ill try deleting and recreating them
[01:36] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: /dev/sda* are all partitions, not only storage partitions, so they always include swap.
[01:36] <kellyh> shares of my windows partitions don't seem to show up on OS X 10.5, but show up elsewhere
[01:36] <kellyh> not sure if its Ubuntu or OS X
[01:36] <skibiliano> Danbhfive, How exactly do I save it then?
[01:36] <marks256> I had a samba share sharing a folder across my network. it stopped working after i networked my printer. now my printer works over the network, but no more folder share. any ideas?
[01:36] <OttifantSir> skibiliano: It may seem like you might have a proper sources.list on your machine in: /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list Where it should be put, I don't know. And check that it says hardy in it if you have it.
[01:37]  * VCoolio hears radio when volume turned all down :p
[01:37] <skibiliano> Danbhfive, It says I don't have the right permissions
[01:37] <danbhfive> skibiliano: how are you editing it?  you could use: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <skibiliano> Thank you so much
[01:38] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: be careful when handling partitions though, as they are not so easily recoverable... and you'd better not work with currently used swap partitions.
[01:38] <Cyber_Akuma> I recreated them
[01:38] <Cyber_Akuma> but just to eb safe I can delete them and recreate them
[01:38] <Cyber_Akuma> I AM using gparted to modify a windows partition just now..... but I performed a backup so its ok if its corrupted
[01:39] <Cyber_Akuma> the hdd is being accessed by usb so it isn't even the system's hdd
[01:39] <b0nn> hi all, I am about to buy an Aspire One, do I need to use a specially compiled ubuntu, or will stock x86 ubuntu install on it?
[01:39] <skibiliano> Okay, attempting to update
[01:39] <kellyh> b0nn: stock ubuntu should work, but NBR is much better imo on it
[01:40] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: in any case, swap partitions having labels are no danger at all.
[01:40] <Ricochet> So does anyone want to help me out?
[01:40] <b0nn> kellyh: thanks, is the install done from a USB stick?
[01:40] <danbhfive> Ricochet: whats the problem you are having?  I have a eee
[01:40] <ubuntu> does anyone know id the zd1211b is a RAlink-bsed chip?
[01:40] <b0nn> if so, how big a stick do I need?
[01:40] <skibiliano> It's downloading new sources
[01:41] <kellyh> b0nn: yes, min. 1Gb
[01:41] <OttifantSir> B0nn: about as big as a thigh;-)
[01:41] <Cyber_Akuma> thewanderer_: I know, its just weird thats all, why would it give it the label of a deleted partition?
[01:41] <Ricochet> danbhfive: perfect! I have the asus eee top and its giving me troubles.. I posted a link above and its a walk through as to how to get it to work, but i am new at this and apparently failing so I needed some help
[01:41] <marks256> I had a samba share sharing a folder across my network. it stopped working after i networked my printer. now my printer works over the network, but no more folder share. any help will be greatly appreciated.
[01:41] <Cyber_Akuma> How can it even BE labeled?
[01:42] <b0nn> awesome, thanks
[01:42] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: via mkswap -L flag (see man 8 mkswap)
[01:42] <mattgyver> marks256, is it possible that you changed the workgroup in /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[01:42] <Cyber_Akuma> hmmmm
[01:42] <Cyber_Akuma> Maybe it would be useful then
[01:42] <marks256> mattgyver, nope workgroup has stayed the same.
[01:42] <Cyber_Akuma> using mkswap to lavel them as the ubuntu and opensuse swap partition
[01:42] <Cyber_Akuma> label*
[01:43] <Saik> does anyone know id the zd1211b is a RAlink-bsed chip?
[01:43] <Cyber_Akuma> btw, I know what man is, but whats with the numbers?
[01:43] <skibiliano> :O, 33 packets are going to be removed, 225 new packets are going to be downloaded, 1375 packets are going to be updated, 2,5 gigs, it takes about 6 hours and 21 minutes
[01:43] <danbhfive> Ricochet: oh, I see, I dont have THAT eee.  but whats the problem?
[01:43] <Cyber_Akuma> man 5, man 8
[01:43] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: man man explains it.
[01:43] <skibiliano> I am gonna press cancel and do it tomorrow, but it seems to be working, Thanks danbhfive
[01:43] <danbhfive> skibiliano: great! take care
[01:43] <marks256> mattgyver, i set up the share by right clicking on the folder and doing sharing options though... where is the config file for that?
[01:44] <Cyber_Akuma> lol, this man stuff is getting out of hand
[01:44] <Ricochet> danbhfive: well the resolution is off, the touch screen doesnt work, the wifi doesnt, and i would love to get all of those things working.. and that page shows how
[01:44] <Saik> does anyone know id the zd1211b is a RAlink-bsed chip?
[01:44] <Ricochet> danbhfive: but apparently i am messing it up somewhere along the line
[01:44] <danbhfive> Ricochet: but you arent sure where I take it
[01:44] <Cyber_Akuma> (can't use the terminal atm because its doing something) do I need to manually enter the size and location of the partition I want to make with mkswap?
[01:45] <danbhfive> Ricochet: unfortunately, the translate isnt working for me
[01:45] <Cyber_Akuma> as in the strting and ending sectors or whatever?
[01:45] <Ricochet> danbhfive: can you copy and paste the top one into google and press "Translate Page"
[01:45] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: options specified in [braces] are optional
[01:46] <Ricochet> danbhfive: I think if we can take it from the beginning, that would be splendid
[01:46] <mattgyver> marks256, im not sure, it looks like they are all handled by the package nautilus-share
[01:46] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: in your case, mkswap -L "My_Label" /dev/my_partition   should suffice.
[01:46] <OttifantSir> thewanderer_:  Cyber_Akuma: Yup, sometimes I wish there were man-pages for man:-D
[01:46] <marks256> mattgyver, ok i'll look into that and see if there are any config files that may have been altered
[01:46] <jrib> OttifantSir: umm, man man
[01:47] <Saik> does anyone know id the zd1211b is a RAlink-bsed chip?
[01:47]  * jrib returns to his bottle now
[01:47] <Cyber_Akuma> So, why should I use mkswap over GParted for making swap partitions?
[01:47] <Saik> jrib, I didn't know you had a bottle?
[01:47] <danbhfive> Ricochet: well, how does your xorg.conf look?
[01:47] <mattgyver> marks256, looks like they are added to samba @ /var/lib/samba/usershares
[01:48] <Cyber_Akuma> Or do yo mean just to label them
[01:48] <Ricochet> danbhfive: well I just edited it and reverted it back.. so right now its the standard
[01:48] <jrib> Saik: I granted OttifantSir's wish
[01:48] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: mkswap is what GParted uses 'under the hood'
[01:48] <Ricochet> danbhfive: The default that is
[01:48] <OttifantSir> jrib: Thanks! Never even thought of it. Should be prominently displayed somewhere.
[01:48] <Saik> jrib; ah.. lol
[01:48] <richardcavell> how do you get a message like jrib returns to his bottle now?
[01:48] <jrib> OttifantSir: you know about « man intro »?
[01:48] <Cyber_Akuma> I see
[01:48] <danbhfive> Ricochet: are you on 8.10? or 9.04?
[01:48] <jrib> richardcavell: /me foo
[01:49]  * richardcavell is testing
[01:49] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: that's how it's usually done in Linux. GUI stuff might be fancy, but it allows for less control and does have bugs sometimes...
[01:49] <Cyber_Akuma> So can I make the swap partition in gparted then label it with mkswap?
[01:49] <richardcavell> jrib: thanks
[01:49] <marks256> mattgyver, yep they are there. wonder why they don't show on the network...
[01:49] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: mkswap *makes* the swap partition, so that would be pointless.
[01:49] <Cyber_Akuma> I understand thewanderer_, but a gui can really help make sense out of something complicated
[01:49] <mattgyver> marks256, dont know, can you access them from there?
[01:49] <Saik> jrib; I never grant wishes, I like to torment people P
[01:49] <Cyber_Akuma> case in point: when the hdd has 7 partitions
[01:49] <OttifantSir> jrib: I hope you are a djinn of gentle nature then, and not a djinn from the stories of the old Arabian tales. And no, I didn't know about that. Nowhere in close to four years with Linux have I seen that info.
[01:49] <jrib> Saik: :o
[01:49] <marks256> mattgyver, what do you mean?
[01:49] <Cyber_Akuma> it was a LOT easier to tell what it was liek with a gui than with a bunch of numbers
[01:49] <Ricochet> danbhfive: 8.10
[01:50] <mattgyver> marks256, can you view the contents from within those folders?
[01:50] <Cyber_Akuma> And this is coming from someone who frequently pulls up the command shell in windows
[01:50] <khelvan> Hi, I am trying to get a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000 working, and after some struggles have finally gotten cheese to see it. But now the frame rate is about 5. The cheese support says that I should change between xvimagesink and ximagesink -  how in the world do I do that?
[01:50] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: the GUI only operates on /dev/sd* or whatever the partitions are called
[01:50] <danbhfive> Ricochet: ok, set your xorg.conf, and install that .deb file
[01:50] <Guest58031> does anybody know how to get windows vista back.i did downlound ubuntu linux on my vista os system
[01:50] <marks256> mattgyver, yes. the weird thing is, print$ doesn't even show up on the network... it is like my system has vanished, yet i can still use the print share?
[01:50] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: so figuring out where your partition devices are is the very first thing to do.
[01:50] <mattgyver> marks256, have you restarted since this all has started happening?
[01:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Yeah, I need to renumber them too, since they are really out of order now, its confusing
[01:51] <Ricochet> danbhfive: how do i install an xorg.conf and put it in? or should i edit the xorg.conf?
[01:51] <marks256> mattgyver, yes. it stopped working a few weeks ago when i networked my printer
[01:51] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: you can reference partitions by Linux numbers, UUID or labels.
[01:51] <mattgyver> Guest58031, did you overwrite vista?
[01:51] <marks256> mattgyver, i've just been putting my videos on a jump drive, but i'm tired of that and want my share back :)
[01:51] <Guest58031> i think so
[01:51] <Cyber_Akuma> thewanderer_: But when mounted, they appear on your desktop as their labels, which is why I like to label them
[01:51] <danbhfive> Ricochet: well, save both the xorg.conf and the .deb file to your desktop
[01:51] <Guest58031> i am not sure
[01:52] <Guest58031> i did make ubuntu linux my new os
[01:52] <Ricochet> danbhfive: done
[01:52] <Cyber_Akuma> As for laveling my swap partitions, thats just so I can tell which one I assigned to ubuntu and to opensuse
[01:53] <Cyber_Akuma> Do I need to label ym swap partition as I make it with mkswap, or can I make it with gparted then label ti with mkswap?
[01:53] <mattgyver> marks256, unfortunately im not too sure why thats happening to you
[01:53] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: you need to label it at creation time, that is, it needs to be labeled with mkswap (unless GParted supports swap labels, I don't know of such a fact).
[01:54] <danbhfive> Ricochet: on a terminal: cd ~/Desktop && sudo cp xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo dpkg -i libdrm2_2.4.4-1build1_i386.deb
[01:54] <Cyber_Akuma> ok
[01:54] <marks256> mattgyver, darn :( well thanks for the help anyway :)
[01:54] <Cyber_Akuma> But I can label ext4 partitions with gparted right? or no?
[01:54] <Saik> jrib: I';m a mean guy, you should know that by now :P
[01:54] <Saik> does anyone know id the zd1211b is a RAlink-bsed chip?
[01:54] <mattgyver> marks256, np, if i think of something else ill let you know
[01:55] <thewanderer_> Cyber_Akuma: I rarely look into GParted, so I have no idea. I always create my partitions with mkfs, and mk* programs.
[01:55] <thewanderer_> Saik: zd1211b is an Atheros chip.
[01:55] <marks256> mattgyver, ok thanks. if i find the solution i'll be sure to let you know
[01:55] <Cyber_Akuma> I tried them, didnt like them, how I had to manually count everyything to know where the partitions are and where to make them
[01:55] <pokey19> Hello. I just put Ubuntu on my new HP Mini netbook. I was using the internet wirelessly today at my friends house. But it wont work here at my place
[01:55] <uknown> yeah im back and think i broke my computer
[01:55] <pokey19> it says its connected, but i can't get any internet
[01:55] <pokey19> :(
[01:56] <Cyber_Akuma> I like the commandline over a gui for many things, but hdd matinence is not one of them, I find having a graphical representation much more convinent
[01:56] <Kuaera> Hello; I'm on Kubuntu Jaunty, and am trying to fix some OpenGL versioning issues with a Radeon X1950 card
[01:56] <Cyber_Akuma> anyway
[01:56] <Saik> thewanderer_, do you know if there's a win 7 driver for it?
[01:56] <Cyber_Akuma> so can I use any of these commandline tools to just label a partition?
[01:56] <Cyber_Akuma> not create one?
[01:56] <jrib> !label | Cyber_Akuma
[01:56] <brian> #ubuntu-fr
[01:57] <thewanderer_> Saik: better go ask in a win7-specific room
[01:57] <Kuaera> glxheads reports that the GL_VENDOR is DRI R300, though the card is R580!
[01:57] <Cyber_Akuma> "Nautilus currently does not support renaming partitions, but Gnome's Partition Editor (GParted) does."
[01:57] <Cyber_Akuma> very well
[01:57] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Can anyone please recommend an easy to use video editor with an easy way of adding subtitles?
[01:57] <Saik> thewanderer_, you know of one?
[01:57] <Cyber_Akuma> so mkswap to label ym sap partitions at creation and gparted to labvel my ext4 partitions
[01:57] <marks256> anybody know what would cause a machine to stop showing up in network?
[01:57] <user01> hi i created a a partition for a user´s backup files during install /home/user/archive now i am adding the user and it wont let me do it because the directory /home/user exists . . . how can i fix?
[01:57] <Nitrousoxide> Hello
[01:57] <thewanderer_> Saik: not really. just look around.
[01:57] <Kuaera> I'm really desperately seeking help on this one.
[01:58] <jrib> user01: delete the directory or learn how to use useradd :)
[01:58] <Ricochet> danbhfive: im not sure if it did it or not.. but i think so...
[01:58] <jrib> user01: or rename the directory and move it back instead of delete
[01:58] <Nitrousoxide> I need help, i just got the newest server edition, and i sudo apt-get install untuntu-desktop doesnt work
[01:58] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: pastebin the output you get
[01:58] <danbhfive> Ricochet: well, no errors I think means its all good
[01:58] <Nitrousoxide> What
[01:58] <Saik> thx
[01:58] <jrib> !pastebin | Nitrousoxide
[01:58] <OttifantSir> xcdfgkjhgcv: AviDemux is very easy to use and has the possibility of adding subtitles with a filter during encoding.
[01:58] <Nitrousoxide> Yes i know what pastebin is
[01:58] <danbhfive> Ricochet: but, you know, 9.04 might work better by default
[01:59] <Ricochet> danbhfive: yeah, no error messages so I suppose we're in business
[01:59] <danbhfive> Ricochet: you may want to make an extra partition, and just try 9.04
[01:59] <Nitrousoxide> But its on a different computer, how am i meant to get it?
[01:59] <Nitrousoxide> Type it out?
[01:59] <xcdfgkjhgcv> OttifantSir: Adding subtitles to avidemux is too complicated.
[01:59] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: does the other computer not have internet access?
[01:59] <xcdfgkjhgcv> OttifantSir: Ubuntu is Linux for human beings.
[01:59] <Ricochet> danbhfive: yeah the walkthrough was in 8.10 so i figured it would work better that way then i can just upgrade right?
[01:59] <Nitrousoxide> Yes it does, but its on server, Just server, so how am i meant to upload it?
[02:00] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: you may use pastebinit
[02:00] <Ricochet> danbhfive: so whats our next move?
[02:00] <jumbers> Is there any way to make keyboard macros for the gnome terminal so that it can just quickly paste a command in for me?
[02:00] <jrib> jumbers: are aliases not sufficient?
[02:00] <danbhfive> Ricochet: yes, thats true.  You should follow that walkthrough only on 8.10.  That was correct.  BUT, you are just installing drivers.  each release has newer drivers.  So, 9.04 might work by default
[02:00] <OttifantSir> xcdfgkjhgcv: What do you mean it's too difficult to do in AviDemux? To write subtitles for a video? AviDemux isn't for that. I know there are stand-alone programs for that, then you can use AviDemux to hardcode them to the video.
[02:01] <jumbers> jrib: I just figured it would be handy to have keyboard shortcuts
[02:01] <Saik> how do I list all dev/*da* partions in terminal?
[02:01] <Nitrousoxide> im trying to get it to work, i used sudo apt-get install unbuntu-desktop, But that froze on 0%, i tried sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, but that just did nt do anything, ok ill paste bin it, if i can
[02:01] <xcdfgkjhgcv> OttifantSir: Surely it'd be easier for a video editor to include such a feature? I want a very simple video editor.
[02:01] <blacknred0> is there a way to perform year to year compression in gnucash?
[02:01] <jrib> jumbers: don't know.  You could rig something up with xbindkeys I guess
[02:02] <jumbers> !info xbindkeys
[02:02] <thewanderer_> Saik: cat /proc/partitions | egrep ".*da.*"
[02:02] <OttifantSir> Saik: wouldn't fdisk -l | grep da do the trick?
[02:02] <jrib> !pastebinit | Nitrousoxide
[02:02] <jumbers> jrib: That looks like it might be what I need actually
[02:02] <Ricochet> danbhfive: I tried to install it and when i tried this walk through some things didnt work.. but i suppose i havent had the best of luck on this already.. so thats why i was thinking to go with the walk through then upgrade.. but i could have been wrong
[02:02] <Nitrousoxide> Ahk
[02:03] <Nitrousoxide> Thanks
[02:03] <uknown> ok i installed a driver packege for my video card but when i restrted my monitor did not work it said format not supported or something like that
[02:03] <uknown> im useing ubuntu
[02:03] <thewanderer_> I'm off to get some sleep.
[02:03] <VCoolio> in terminal, 'screen' mode, there are some numbers bottom right about cpu and memory; the first one gives me "9!"; what's that?
[02:03] <uknown> i just wanted to know can i roll back my video draiver
[02:04] <Kuaera> Perhaps could someone direct me to where I can find why my glxheads reports a supported OpenGL version of 1.3 on a card that has 2.0 capabilities?
[02:04] <OttifantSir> xcdfgkjhgcv: Programs become more complex with time, but usually developers think of a program that does what they want, and the (maybe old) Linux philosophy is that you make a program to do ONE function and do that extremely well.
[02:04] <Mefached> Is there any way to prevent Ubuntu from installing GRUB?
[02:04] <quadx> Hi, I need some help uninstalling ubuntu and restoring space to my windows xp install. Can anyone help me?
[02:04] <xcdfgkjhgcv> OttifantSir: Well that's a pants philosophy. Firefox for example does lots of things and is highly praised for it.
[02:05] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, Have you tried kdenlive?
[02:05] <xcdfgkjhgcv> OttifantSir: Streaming video, downloading files, browsing the web, etc.
[02:05] <jrib> quadx: try ##windows
[02:05] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: No, because I don't want to download all the KDE libraries.
[02:05] <uknown> is there a way to roll back drivers on ubuntu
[02:05] <Nitrousoxide> Odd. pastebinit doesnt work
[02:05] <Ricochet> danbhfive: so what do we do next? do i need a thumb drive for this next bit?
[02:05] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: what happens?
[02:05] <Nitrousoxide> One sec
[02:05] <jrib> uknown: why do you want to do that?
[02:05] <danbhfive> Ricochet: have you tried 9.04 before?
[02:06] <Ricochet> danbhfive: yes
[02:06] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, I think kdenlive will do what you are looking for. To me, downloading KDE libraries is a small price to pay for a program that does what you want.
[02:06] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: I will only use the bandwidth if I know for certain it will do what I want it to do.
[02:06] <edbian> jrib: He installed one that doesn't support his hardware.  He wants to use the previous one.  (That's all I know based on his questions earlier)
[02:06] <danbhfive> Ricochet: and it didnt work...  well, I have to go I'm afraid
[02:06] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: Bandwidth and limited SSD space. :(
[02:06] <Nitrousoxide> -bash !pastebinit event not found
[02:06] <Kuaera> ._. Being totally ignored sucks.
[02:06] <Ricochet> danbhfive: it was giving me the same problems that 8.10 so i went with 8.10 to work through the walk through
[02:06] <Saik> thx guys :) I am lacking in shell commands anymore lol
[02:06] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:06] <Saik> lata guys
[02:06] <Ricochet> danbhfive: oh ok! well i will see what i can do now
[02:06] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: How easy is it to add/edit subtitles?
[02:06] <Ricochet> danbhfive: thanks
[02:06] <creeed> how can I allow multiple connections (wired (eth0) and wireless (wlan0)) using Networkmanager? any help pls
[02:06] <danbhfive> Ricochet: cool, gl!
[02:06] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, kdenlive gives you multiple video tracks, one of which you can set up as a title track and have it do/say what you want.
[02:07] <OttifantSir> xcdfgkjhgcv: This is getting offtopic, and it is also a highly volatile discussion, so if you wish it to coninue, PM me
[02:07] <edbian> creeed: It should do it for you automatically.  Does it not?
[02:07] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, unlimited number of tracks, that is. It is a little bit like Sony Vegas, without as many plugins. If you're familiar with Vegas...
[02:07] <creeed> edbian, it does but only one connection is available!
[02:07] <marks256> My computer shows up on the network, but there are no shares in it. why doesn't it show my shares?
[02:07] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: No.
[02:08] <eggenz7> im trying to get ebox to work...installed all packages just fine but when i try to start ebox it says "failed to contact configuration server.............Not Running within and active session) at /usr/share/perl5/EBox/GConfModule.pm line 50.
[02:08] <xcdfgkjhgcv> OttifantSir: No thanks.
[02:08] <edbian> creeed: Do you mean only 1 network card shows up?
[02:08] <eggenz7> have no idea where to go from that
[02:08] <Nitrousoxide> Ok, i installed it but it didnt work
[02:08] <Nitrousoxide> dame thing
[02:08] <peepsalot> is there a way to see the original path of items in my "Trash"
[02:08] <TwoToneSpirit> Is there a way to share a single workspace?  In other words, let's say I have four workspaces.  I'd like for the leftmost one to be shared with another computer's rightmost one.  Can this be done?  Or is VNC the closest thing?
[02:08] <Nitrousoxide> same*, it just errors out saying that it cant find it
[02:08] <peepsalot> i can only see the filename
[02:08] <Nitrousoxide> What now?
[02:09] <marks256> mattgyver, my system shows up on network now, but when i open it, there are no items in there. not even $print
[02:09] <creeed> edbian, no both od them are connected and I get throught nm-applet information about the 2 connections, but I only one works really!
[02:09] <Ricochet> Hey guys, I really really need some help here.. I have been trying to get this darn walk through to work and its just giving me all sorts of problems.. I am trying to get ubuntu working on my Asus Eee Top 1602 and i cant for the life of me get this resolution correct.. can anyone help me out?
[02:09] <Stormx2> I get a segmentation fault immediately after starting firefox-3.5. Is this a known issue?
[02:09] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: Okay. I'm downloading it now to give it a try. :)
[02:09] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, well I believe it will do what you want it to do, but I won't guarantee it. I have set up a title track that has text on it, and I'm a newbie video editor.
[02:09] <mattgyver> marks256, are you on 9.04, i have a similiar issue i believe on my laptop
[02:09] <Paddy_NI> TwoToneSpirit: you could try synergy.. its not quite what you want but it will allow you to use one mouse and keyboard across multiple computers
[02:09] <edbian> creeed: What are you doing that proves that only 1 works?
[02:09] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: Me too.
[02:09] <creeed> should I make any alias of network device or something like that?
[02:09] <marks256> mattgyver, yes 9.04
[02:09] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: I just need it for a basic school presentation.
[02:09] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, there is a #kdenlive - you can ask them there
[02:09] <creeed> edbian, ping for example!
[02:09] <xcdfgkjhgcv> khelvan: Okay, thanks.
[02:10] <marks256> mattgyver, did it work at one time on your laptop?
[02:10] <edbian> creeed: One of the addresses doesn't respond?
[02:10] <khelvan> xcdfgkjhgcv, sure, good luck
[02:10] <TwoToneSpirit> Paddy_NI: Yeah I like x2x for that.  If x2x did exactly what it does + provided an actual view of the desktop, it'd be perfect.  I guess what I want is basically just VNC running full screen on one of the laptops.
[02:10] <Paddy_NI> !info quicksynergy | TwoToneSpirit
[02:10] <Nitrousoxide> Ok, can someone help me, i tried isntalling pastebinit, but it says it cant find the package.
[02:10] <imperfect-> my kingdom for SATA performance to stop sucking
[02:11] <eggenz7> anybody know where i can find a good howto for ebox?
[02:11] <Paddy_NI> TwoToneSpirit: A well that would be a little out of my scope at the moment to be honest :)
[02:11] <eggenz7> getting an error and have no idea where to go after that
[02:11] <tawan> reasons wicd would not connect to my wireless network....
[02:11] <creeed> edbian, yes, I have wireless with dhcp connected to my dsl-router and wired with my server direct connected via static ip (pc_to_pc), the wireless connection is succeful done the wired one too, but just the last one is available!
[02:12] <nightwing> !intelgraphics
[02:12] <Paddy_NI> !intel | nightwing
[02:12] <Ricochet> hey guys, how do i reset my xorg.conf file again? i need to reinstall it
[02:12] <creeed> edbian, the last setted connection is available and it also markes as default in nm-applet
[02:12] <creeed> *marked
[02:13] <edbian> creeed: I would try editing /etc/network/interfaces (do things manually)
[02:13] <AceBlade159> what is diffirent between 8.10 and 9.04 in hard drive detection?
[02:13] <Nitrousoxide> After i get a package, do i have to reset the machine?
[02:13] <AceBlade159> Sepciffically SATA
[02:14] <Paddy_NI> !details | Nitrousoxide
[02:14] <creeed> edbian, yes I did and it's succefully but I'd like to do it with Networkmanager
[02:14] <Nitrousoxide> Ok
[02:14] <jrib> !who | Nitrousoxide
[02:15] <Nitrousoxide> jrib, thanks
[02:15] <AceBlade159> anybody know at all?
[02:16] <TwoToneSpirit> I'm looking for a solution similar to VNC but that actually shares a workspace.  IE, I'd be able to drag a window on to one of my workspaces, and another laptop would be able to drag it from there on to one of their workspaces.  SSH w/ X sharing and x2x is close, but it provides no display for the SSH client.
[02:16] <Nitrousoxide> jrib, Im using the latest server edition, but i tried using your sudo apt-get install bastebinit, and insted of apt-get i used aptitude, niether worked, where can i go from here?
[02:16] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: say what happened not "didn't work"
[02:16] <Paddy_NI> jrib typo?
[02:17] <jrib> Paddy_NI: maybe
[02:17] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: Ok, Well apparently it couldnt find the file, Let me get a quick look at the error again,Brb
[02:17] <Paddy_NI> jrib bastebinit = pastebinit
[02:17] <Paddy_NI> :)
[02:17] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: see what Paddy_NI said?
[02:18] <patrinstar> can anyone tell me a good program i can have on the panel to tell me the weather and forecast, the one that comes with ubuntu 9.04 just tellme the the current weather
[02:18] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: why dont you try using screenlets or google desktop gadgets?
[02:18] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: it failed to fetch and could not resolve it, It was like au.ubuntu.<etc>
[02:19] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: run « sudo apt-get update »
[02:19] <Ricochet> Hey guys I have an Asus Eee Top 1602 and have been desperately trying to get the resolution, touchscreen, and wireless working.. I found a walkthrough online however i feel like i am doing something wrong, because it refuses to work. Everytime i try to edit the xorg.conf when i restart gdm.. everything goes black.. can anyone PLEASE help me out?
[02:19] <AceBlade159> anybody know what changed between 8.10 and 9.04 pertaining to SATA HDD Detection?
[02:19] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: i did that, but ill try it again
[02:19] <patrinstar> paddy_NI im a newbie to linux i didnt know google had desktop gadgets for ubuntu
[02:19] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: one sec
[02:19] <patrinstar> paddy_NI all righty
[02:19] <jfaosdp> i have an ubuntu installed on my iMac 20" , but it's too hot, that's ok ? :S
[02:20] <darthanubis> patrinstar: google even has a debian/ubuntu repository you can add.
[02:20] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: open a terminal and type without quotes "sudo apt-get install google-gadgets-gtk"
[02:20] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: my personal favourite is the weather globe
[02:20] <test34> which video editor would you recommand
[02:20] <[Dark-Star]> Hello everyone
[02:21] <Paddy_NI> test34: pitivi is quite nice
[02:21] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: ok some thing this time losts of it, it failed to resolve and fetch. also some index files couldnt be downloaded
[02:21] <Paddy_NI> !info pitivi | test34
[02:21] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: theres more
[02:21] <test34> thanks Paddy_NI I'll give it a try
[02:21] <Paddy_NI> test34: there is also a few others
[02:21] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: ok, fine you can pastebin the following way: COMMAND | netcat ssh.jrib.net 12345
[02:21] <Paddy_NI> try them and see test34 its all down to your personal preference
[02:22] <test34> I see there is also kino
[02:22] <darthanubis> join #ubuntu-mythtv
[02:22] <darthanubis> oops:P
[02:22] <Paddy_NI> test34: exactly
[02:22] <Nitrousoxide> jrib : ok, it also says (funny) Please run sudo apt-get update to fix this problem ( or something like that)
[02:22] <[Dark-Star]> im having some problem with getting my nvidia card to work on ubuntu 9.04 i enable the driver and i restart and get "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode"
[02:23] <darthanubis> [Dark-Star]: start over
[02:23] <[Dark-Star]> ??
[02:23] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: you need to show us the actual errors, otherwise it's confusing
[02:23] <patrinstar> paddy_NI thanks alot im installign it now
[02:23] <Paddy_NI> !info envyng | [Dark-Star]
[02:23] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[02:24] <AceBlade159> dark-star: boot into safe graphics mode, then enable the driver in System-Administration-Hardware Drivers
[02:24] <Paddy_NI> !info envy-ng | [Dark-Star]
[02:24] <Paddy_NI> gah
[02:24] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: i understand, Its just very difficult to get them, the only way without the astebin is to type it out
[02:24] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: nice one :)
[02:24] <darthanubis> [Dark-Star]: allow the low graphics mode, then retrace your steps until successful
[02:24] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: paste*
[02:24] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: ok, fine you can pastebin the following way: COMMAND 2>&1 | netcat ssh.jrib.net 12345
[02:24] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: one moment please.
[02:24] <darthanubis> [Dark-Star]: I'd stay away from Envy
[02:24] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: i was about to do that
[02:24] <Paddy_NI> darthanubis: for some its the only option
[02:25] <Paddy_NI> although I generally agree
[02:25] <patrinstar> paddy_NI its a gadget designer?
[02:25] <TwoToneSpirit> Can X server power more than one X client?
[02:25] <eggenz7> im having problems with gconf and ebox...anybody care to indulge?
[02:25] <OttifantSir> Nitrousoxide: I have had the same problem from time to time. With very few mirrors in Norway, it sometimes happen that they're down. That *might* be what's happening to you. Or your ISP has some connectivity issues. Or it may be something completely different, and you should keep on asking.
[02:25] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: no.. it has a gadget designer though
[02:25] <darthanubis> Paddy_NI: I just never ran into an issue where Envy was NEEDED, but if it works for people cool.
[02:25] <[Dark-Star]> right now i have went to hardware drivers and enabeled ver.180 and run terminal with sudo -s and nvidia-xconfig and restart the xserver and i sett get this error
[02:26] <darthanubis> The default restricted driver manager is excellent
[02:26] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: it should be listed under accessories
[02:26] <patrinstar> paddy_NI sorry, i meant it has a designer too
[02:26] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: :)
[02:26] <Nitrousoxide> ottifantsir: Ok
[02:26] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: Ok well it says... Ah forgot, one sec
[02:26] <edge> is their a program that will download drivers onto my windows OS from ubuntu?
[02:27] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: forward host lookup failed
[02:27] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: erm, are you able to resolve domain names?
[02:27] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: you can more gadgets from here http://desktop.google.com/plugins/
[02:27] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: the weather globe is nice when you expand it out
[02:27] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: how can i test that, ping?
[02:28] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: try: host www.google.com
[02:28] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: http://desktop.google.com/plugins/i/terrarium.html?hl=en-GB
[02:29] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: timed out
[02:29] <Zxcvb> how do I get a bluetooth mouse to reconnect after rebooting?
[02:29] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: I removed the sidebar myself although its entirely your choice at this point.. oh and dont forget if you click the google gadget icon in the notification area it will show your gadgets.. click again and they hide.. enjoy
[02:29] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: does this work: echo foo | nc 96.233.20.99 12345
[02:30] <Doc-Saintly> if I add two network cards to a computer are there special steps I have to take to get it to utilize them?
[02:30] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: you recon its my ISP?
[02:30] <Nitrousoxide> jrib one sec
[02:30] <lily> how do i install optus wifi modem on ubuntu904?
[02:30] <MrPiracy> when i try to restart X, i get stuck at a message saying "checking battery status"? How can i disable that? I am on a desktop.
[02:31] <richardcavell> Doc-Saintly: shouldn't be
[02:31] <[Dark-Star]> anyway to get my 3d acc to work? when i run glxinfo | grep rendering  "Xlib extension is missing"
[02:31] <th0r> MrPiracy: try booting with the option noacpi
[02:31] <MrPiracy> th0r: i set that on grub?
[02:31] <richardcavell> Zxcvb: Startup Applications
[02:31] <stone2020> I'm trying to run the getlibs script to install libraries for Adobe Air.  The script stops responding as soon as I run it.  Does anybody have an idea why the script won't run?
[02:31] <Paddy_NI> !envy | [Dark-Star]
[02:31] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: unreachable, broken pipe
[02:32] <patrinstar> paddy_NI kick ass, thanks
[02:32] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: I assume you can't ping the ip either?
[02:32] <th0r> MrPiracy: you can just enter it at bootup on the initial screen...at the bottom I think it says Options, or Other options, or something like that
[02:32] <Paddy_NI> patrinstar: nice one
[02:32] <Zxcvb> richardcavell: in order to make it work, I have to go into the bluetooth device manager, delete the entry for the mouse, and then repair it
[02:32] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: let me tryi n windows then server
[02:32] <th0r> MrPiracy: then if it works you can add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:32] <richardcavell> Zxcvb: you mean delete it and readd it?
[02:32] <Zxcvb> richardcavell: yes
[02:33] <MrPiracy> th0r: u mean the login screen under options?
[02:33] <richardcavell> Zxcvb: you've tried adding something to Startup Applications?
[02:33] <Zxcvb> no good
[02:33] <arooni> how can i make it so apache2 doesnt autostart?  or do i have to uninstall it
[02:34] <chemixalx> aaaahw man
[02:34] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: crrect, cant ping
[02:34] <th0r> MrPiracy: give me a minute to get the vm running so I can tell you exactly
[02:34] <MrPiracy> th0r: ok, thx
[02:34] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: i have it connected to a switch then my router
[02:34] <TwoToneSpirit> Hypothetically, is it possible to boot with no X and then connect to the X server on another computer, essentially sharing the workspace of that other computer?
[02:34] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: ok so it's some connectivity issue at this point
[02:34] <bruenig> !vpn | TwoToneSpirit
[02:34] <chemixalx> I have a hard time, just installed DSL on that pentium 2 besides my ubuntu laptop
[02:34] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: yeah
[02:35] <Ricochet> can someone help me with this? http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Asus_EeeTop
[02:35] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: but what, i think i can try another port, wait a sec
[02:35] <Nitrousoxide> Freaky
[02:35] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: u got a pentium2? do u happen to know if these machines could still run windows 3.11?
[02:35] <TwoToneSpirit> bruenig: But even if I have a VPN, will X server power more than one client?  In other words, the X client will run on another computer and behave just as if I was sitting there?  (And in addition someone might actually be sitting there?)
[02:35] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: thats odd, i cant go to my router page while im connected to the switch
[02:36] <eggenz7> im having problems getting ebox installed..anybody knowledgable on it?
[02:36] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: oh Dw, i got it to work, wait a sec
[02:36] <th0r> MrPiracy: when you first bootup...it gives you three seconds to press Esc
[02:36] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: ok heres my DHCP table Host Name MAC Address IP Address Lease Time
[02:36] <Nitrousoxide> *¶V0 00:1A:4D:52:08:9C 192.168.1.2 00:21:58:33
[02:36] <Nitrousoxide> Vista-PC 00:1F:D0:8D:7A:0A 192.168.1.3 00:21:48:09
[02:36] <Nitrousoxide> Zohrab-PC 00:1D:E0:AC:B6:33 192.168.1.4 00:05:14:44
[02:36] <FloodBot3> Nitrousoxide: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <th0r> MrPiracy: then you can press e and add the option noacpi
[02:37] <chemixalx> MrPiracy: probably...
[02:37] <chemixalx> about win 3.1
[02:37] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: any ideas?
[02:37] <th0r> MrPiracy: add it to the end of the kernel line
[02:37] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: im assuming that the "*¶V0" is the server
[02:37] <MrPiracy> th0r: just tell me how to add this to grub and iĺl risk .... i can create two grub options and one with noacpi option to see if it goes
[02:38] <MrPiracy> th0r: just like that? ... not -noacpi?
[02:38] <chemixalx> however, linux is running on it very swiftly, fast and all. Still I wanna make my laptop files accessible from my pentium, and manage my files remotely from there (ftp, torrent, etc. )
[02:38] <th0r> MrPiracy: just noacpi it goes at the end of the kernel line
[02:38] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: i need to get some info from an old program i cant run on newer computer, it has to be windows 3.11
[02:38] <th0r> MrPiracy: that should turn off the kernel modules for battery and power management
[02:39] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: any suggestions, everything looks fine
[02:39] <BillCurly335> Hello, I'm sure you guys absolutely LOVE helping noobs and stuff, but I JUST installed Ubuntu 9.04 alongside (dualboot) Windows XP and I installed the flash plugin through the Terminal, with no results. How may I resolve this?
[02:39] <chemixalx> chemixalx, : cant you emulate 3.1 under vm or virtualbox ?
[02:39] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: i found a kit for 10 dollars (mem, pentium 2 and mobo), i think i will give it a try
[02:39] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: not really.  Are you sure the server ever had connectivity?
[02:39] <[Dark-Star]> ok i have installed envyng and applied the current drivers and restarted and still get the same error
[02:39] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: i tried that once, from windows VMWare ... didn't work
[02:40] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: the card might be blown, but the switch reports Fine connectivity
[02:40] <chemixalx> MrPiracy: yeah man, give it a good try, its still worth it . old machines gets new purpose besides scrap
[02:40] <MrPiracy> th0r: ok, i will try that, brb
[02:40] <TwoToneSpirit> Can I run more than one X server at a time?  For example, can I press CTRL-ALT-F2 and then run an X server over there?
[02:40] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: heheh, yes
[02:40] <BillCurly335> Would someone please help me with installing a Flash Plugin?
[02:40] <chemixalx> MrPiracy: you got some SSH or FTP or samba knowledge ?
[02:40] <Blizzerand> BillCurly335 : Okey Dokey
[02:41] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: yeah i think its dead. i have a spare one
[02:41] <chemixalx> cause i need help i dont even know how to start lol
[02:41] <Blizzerand> BillCurly335 : whats the trouble
[02:41] <BillCurly335> I ony JUST installed 9.04 Ubuntu for the first time ever.
[02:41] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: ftp yes
[02:41] <BillCurly335> And through the terminal installing said it was successful, but I am unable to use Xattech chatboxes.
[02:42] <BillCurly335> Is there an alternative way I could go about installing it?
[02:42] <k3rn> hi
[02:42] <Blizzerand> BillCurly335 : Give it another try http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[02:42] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: i gotta reboot, brb
[02:42] <BillCurly335> Thanks you.
[02:42] <chemixalx> later piracy
[02:43] <Blizzerand> BillCurly335 : And please select .deb version .
[02:43] <BillCurly335> Oh ok, thanks, I was just going to ask = )
[02:43] <BillCurly335> Thanks you.
[02:43] <Nitrousoxide> jrib, ok the new card is in
[02:43] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: let me try the command again for desktop
[02:45] <chemixalx> so yeah
[02:45] <chemixalx> lol
[02:45] <JoeKerr> can anyone point me to a site to connect 9.04 to windows network?
[02:45] <BillCurly335> Thank you Blizzerand, this has resolved the problem.
[02:45] <Blizzerand> BillCurly335 : Cheers :D
[02:45] <BillCurly335> Can you think of anything else I may need as a new user of Ubuntu?
[02:45] <BillCurly335> Or even a guide for starters?
[02:45] <k3rn> my Network-Manager shows two devices, the first one is my configured wired network connection and a second one Ifupdown(eth0) - can someone tell me what this second device is about?
[02:45] <[R]> JoeKerr: you just need to set up samba
[02:46] <BillCurly335> Samba?
[02:46] <JoeKerr> is samba mandatory just to connect ubuntu to a network?
[02:46] <BillCurly335> Oh
[02:46] <[R]> JoeKerr: well what do you mean "connect to a windwos network"
[02:46] <Joe_> umm... I had to restart my computer, and now it doesn't recognize that my monitor can do more than 680x420... how do I fix this?
[02:46] <k3rn> normally i onoly had one device in the Network-Manager ...
[02:46] <JoeKerr> i have 4 xp computer in a network
[02:47] <JoeKerr> 1 ubuntu which used to be an xp machine
[02:47] <MrPiracy> th0r: didn't work mate, same thing .... "checking battery state"
[02:47] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: were u going to ask me something?
[02:47] <k3rn> btw i only have one nic in my system
[02:47] <Cyber_Akuma> GParted coulden't possible be going any slower....
[02:48] <r3l1c> Cyber_Akuma:  what are you doing?
[02:48] <gbear142751> I'm having problems emptying my trash
[02:48] <MrPiracy> th0r: here's the kernel line i used: kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.28-13-generic root=UUID=52b3c315-29a3-4144-98ba-2993b4f285b6 ro quiet splash noacpi
[02:48] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  how so?
[02:48] <moz44> guys I am trying to add caching capabilities to my apache2 server. I issue a2enmod cache, a2enmod disk_cache but that does not work
[02:48] <JoeKerr> my ubuntu can connect to the internet but it wont detect my wired network
[02:48] <Ricochet> Hey guys, I REALLY need some help.. i am trying to get my correct screen resolution, wireless working, and my touch screen working on my Asus Eee 1602. I am dying to get this thing online.. people have been able to do it but I can not!! Will someone please take the time to walk me through some of these tutorials?
[02:48] <gbear142751> When I right click and select empty trash it keeps trying to empty the same 9k files
[02:48] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: this is wired, i put another PCI ethernet card in, and it didnt work
[02:48] <k3rn> i compared the network-manager config file with one on another ubuntu system - they are identical
[02:48] <[Dark-Star]> still need some help with getting my video card working properly i have tried the Builtin Hardware driver and now Envyng tried all 4 listed drivers and i still get the some error on startup as befor
[02:48] <OttifantSir> JoeKerr: If you mean you want to be able to use the files on the other machines, you have to use SAMBA all right. Controlling the desktops can be done with a number of programs. I'm partial to Gnome-RDP myself.
[02:48] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: no internet connectivity you mean?
[02:48] <thiblahute> Hi, I am using jaunty with the latest gnome-do from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa , it works well but I can't make it start at startup. I stuck the "start at staup" option in "gnome do preferences", I tried to add it manually in the "application on statup" thing. But No way to make it working.
[02:49] <[R]> JoeKerr: what do you mean "detect"
[02:49] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  are you in a root nautilus window?
[02:49] <thiblahute> Any suggestion PLEASE?
[02:49] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: Lisen ill explain more, see i took the HD out of the machine, and installed it on a different machne
[02:49] <gbear142751> r3l1c: no
[02:49] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: would that effect it
[02:49] <JoeKerr> my xp machines cannot even see the ubuntu machine in the network
[02:49] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: and yes, Both cards, no connectivity
[02:49] <[R]> JoeKerr: that's samba
[02:49] <JoeKerr> and from what i have read about connecting ubuntu to a windows xp network...i cannot find where you enter the IP addresses
[02:49] <chemixalx> I dont even know where to find the network manager under dsl ...
[02:49] <Cyber_Akuma> r3l1c: moving and resizing several partitions
[02:50] <r3l1c> Cyber_Akuma:  takes for ever
[02:50] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : So you are having trouble starting gnome-do
[02:50] <Cyber_Akuma> its taking like over half an hour just to move a 20gig partion
[02:50] <Cyber_Akuma> I dont want to see it hit the 300gb one
[02:50] <[R]> JoeKerr: once you propelry set up samba... it'll show up in the list
[02:50] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  go into the home folder hit ctrl+h
[02:50] <thiblahute> Blizzerand Nop, I am having troubles to get it start at startup.
[02:50] <th0r> MrPiracy: that should do
[02:50] <outoftime> anyone know of a retailer that sells popular netbooks without windows licenses? looking on newegg, amazon, etc. but it seems like everyone wants to make me drop the $ on an OS i'll be uninstalling immediately...
[02:50] <JoeKerr> ok i'll try that
[02:50] <MrPiracy> th0r: well, same message
[02:50] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : wait.....
[02:50] <gbear142751> r3l1c: done
[02:51] <thiblahute> Blizzerand, at login if you prefere.
[02:51] <r3l1c> look for .Trash
[02:51] <Ricochet> outoftime: I have a Dell Mini 9.. you can get them refurbished for like $200
[02:51] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  look for .Trash
[02:51] <Ricochet> outoftime: and they come with ubuntu 8.0.4
[02:51] <outoftime> Ricochet: I think my friend has one of those too... where'd you pick it up?
[02:51] <gbear142751> r3l1c: strangely enough... its not there
[02:51] <outoftime> don't really care what it comes installed with, as long as it's free : )
[02:51] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  yeah my fault .. 1 min
[02:51] <nonewmsgs> even though i am using my "high definition" built-in soundcard, only one program can have access to the soundcard at one time.  is there a fix for this or do ihave to stick in a better card?
[02:51] <Ricochet> outoftime: Their refurbished items site.. they send it to you for free.. need a link?
[02:52] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: its odd beacuse it doesnt recognise any of the cards, and FYI i installed unbuntu server onm another machine, i just took the drive out and put it isn this one
[02:52] <k3rn> someone could help me with network-manager? i am wondering about the device Ifupdown that shows up there besides my configured wired connection
[02:52] <th0r> MrPiracy: give me a minute
[02:52] <MrPiracy> th0r: ok
[02:52] <outoftime> Ricochet: nah, I'll find it - thanks!
[02:52] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  sorry its .local/share/Trash
[02:52] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : From gnome do preferences did you select start at login option
[02:52] <chemixalx> MrPiracy, experienced with Damn Small ?
[02:52] <thiblahute> Blizzerand: Yes, I did.
[02:52] <Ricochet> outoftime: No problem, Xubuntu works like a dream on mine..
[02:52] <MrPiracy> chemixalx: nope
[02:52] <[GLOBALJIHAD]> wtf kind of freenode channnel is tis?
[02:52] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: you'll have to troubleshoot the network setup.  I don't see why it wouldn't work if everything was pretty standard
[02:53] <gbear142751> r3l1c: got it.. should i delete the files within the "files" directory?
[02:53] <outoftime> Ricochet: cool, yeah I'll probably do a minimal ubuntu install and then just throw in the packages i need... i hear good things about crunchbang as well
[02:53] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: take a look at ifconfig
[02:53] <[GLOBALJIHAD]> listening
[02:53] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: i dont understand too, no matter what
[02:53] <r3l1c> gbear142751:  lemme test it first 1 sec
[02:53] <Nitrousoxide> hrib: Ipconfig?
[02:53] <jrib> [GLOBALJIHAD]: do you have an ubuntu-related support question?
[02:53] <Joe_> after restarting (I swapped out monitors not too long ago) I have this error in Xorg.0.log: (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0  So it won't read the correct resolutions, how do I fix it?
[02:53] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: Ipconfig*
[02:54] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: ifconfig in linux
[02:54] <[GLOBALJIHAD]> nope
[02:54] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: but its wired, i put a different card in, still not working, haha ok
[02:54] <k3rn> jrib: do you have a second for me? i have a question concering network-manager. may i pm you?
[02:54] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: did you take note of my previous statements, that i isntalled it on a dif machine
[02:54] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: and i moved the drive
[02:54] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: would that affect it
[02:54] <th0r> MrPiracy: it appears you aren't alone....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057441
[02:54] <Nitrousoxide> Noo, He was helping me
[02:55] <thiblahute> Blizzerand: And I have it in the ~/.conf directory. I also thgought it might be because it needs compiz to be startup first because I had this issue before but the effect it had before was only opening it normally (I mean the docky didn't work). But this time iit simply doesn't start. And since I added it after the compiz entry in "Startup Application" I shouldn't have problem about that
[02:55] <th0r> MrPiracy: but I am afraid there isn't much help there...there are a couple of workarounds mentioned
[02:55] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : Bug  ....( I am having a cool time with it  though)
[02:55] <test34> every icon on my desktop disappeared and the right click menu doesnt work on my desktop.. how can I fix without rebooting ?
[02:55] <Nitrousoxide> Oh
[02:55] <MrPiracy> th0r: wow
[02:55] <Nitrousoxide> Jrib kicked him, Ah, i thought jrib was kicked
[02:55] <[GLOBALJIHAD]> wow
[02:55] <test34> (latest ubuntu)
[02:55] <thiblahute> Blizzerand with gnome-do or with bug corrections?
[02:56] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : Normally you don't need compiz for Gnome-do to work andmay be a bug with Gnome-Do
[02:56] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: would it matter on completley new machine hardware, i know for a face windows panics if you pull out hte drive and put it in a completley new machine
[02:56] <Ricochet> Does anyone have the time to help out a Newbie? I am trying to get everything working on my Asus Eee Top 1602 and its just not working for me.. I really could use some help guys.. I have been on here for 3 hours and I am almost going to start begging. I'll wash your car if you help me hahaha
[02:56] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: linux should be ok
[02:56] <Nitrousoxide> " I'll wash your car if you help me hahaha", seriously?
[02:56] <th0r> MrPiracy: it appears to be related to the ATI drivers....at least according to this one...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/277587
[02:57] <MrPiracy> th0r: it's not exactly the same error though ... i freeze at *Checking battery state... nothing comes after that
[02:57] <Ricochet> hahah i am that desperate
[02:57] <thiblahute> Blizzerand I am not sure it's more a bug from gnome-do than a bug from gnome. And Yes you need compiz for the gnome-do docky stuff.
[02:57] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : Let me just google about the problem so I can give you some proper instruction
[02:57] <Ricochet> haha i was kidding though
[02:57] <Neroon> Ricochet: Bring on your questions
[02:57] <MrPiracy> th0r: my card is nvidia
[02:57] <jfaosdp> hi
[02:57] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : Did you enable compositing
[02:57] <Blizzerand> !hi |jfaosdp
[02:57] <thiblahute> Blizzerand: Yes, compiz is started.
[02:58] <thiblahute> Blizzerand; sure since I can lunch gnome do manually
[02:58] <Ricochet> Neroon: PERFECT! Ok i have an Asus Eee Top 1602 and running 8.10 (because the walk through that i am using, is using that.. so I was just going to get it working then upgrade) and I can not for the life of me get the correct screen resolution to work, its defaulting at 800x600.
[02:58] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: ok let me test ifconfig
[02:58] <jfaosdp> how can i change the sheen of my screen? :S but by terminal, please
[02:58] <k3rn> question: i got a device called Ifupdown showing up in my network-manager - how can i get rid of that? i already compared the network-manager config file with the one on another system ....
[02:59] <th0r> MrPiracy: from the second url I sent....Note that I had to switch the driver from nvidia to nv in order to properly boot this box to post these logs.
[02:59] <Ricochet> Neroon: Here is the link I was using, you will have to put it into google and translate it http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/
[02:59] <Neroon> Neroon: Got any more specific infos about your built in graphic card, or do i have to google it?
[02:59] <Blizzerand> thiblahute : Try the forums , may be a bug or you may be missing something .. :P
[02:59] <jfaosdp> the applet doesn't work, so i need to change the sheen in a console
[02:59] <Neroon> Ricochet: Got any more specific infos about your built in graphic card, or do i have to google it?
[02:59] <MrPiracy> th0r: let me look
[02:59] <thiblahute> Blizzerand: thx anyway!
[02:59] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: link encap local loopback
[02:59] <NGL-Jabrroa> does anyone know any good video steaming programs for ubuntu?\
[03:00] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: what do you need to know
[03:00] <Ricochet> Neroon: Sorry, I am a newbie.. I know its an intel integrated graphics..
[03:00] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : What do you mean by *sheen*
[03:00] <Cyber_Akuma> awww shit, no wonder its so slow, it appears to be stuck
[03:00] <Nitrousoxide> jrib Rx and Tx are at 0kb/s
[03:00] <jfaosdp> hmm brightness ?
[03:00] <jfaosdp> sorry, i 'm spanish
[03:00] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration...... I am running Jaunty Jackalope... Can anyone help me?
[03:00] <jrib> Nitrousoxide: I'm not all that knowledgeable about network setup.  Try summarizing the issue and asking for help in the channel
[03:00] <Kassah> how do I keep my wacom tablet from becoming a mouse and only within my gimp window?
[03:00] <Neroon> Ricochet: No prob, I just never fiddled around with an Intel card.
[03:01] <OttifantSir> NGL-Jabrroa: VLC will do streaming, both as server and as client. fluendo-streaming-server is a package in the repos I believe. And ask around some more.
[03:01] <th0r> MrPiracy: near the end of that url there is a post dated 02-26 where someone talks about that error. He also states that if someone has that problem in jaunty they should file a new bug report. He goes on to talk about switching to the vesa driver, and offers a link to do that
[03:01] <Ricochet> Neroon: The Asus Eee Top is basically the guts of a netbook but with a 14" touch screen..
[03:01] <Nitrousoxide> jrib: thanks
[03:02] <Neroon> Ricochet: I know what an EEE is, but thanks :-)
[03:02] <Nitrousoxide> Hey guys, I installed linuc on a differen machine then transfered it to another, now i cant get any network connectivity
[03:02] <Nitrousoxide> Ive tried two network cards
[03:02] <Nitrousoxide> Ubuntu insted of linux, sorry
[03:02] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: i mean brightness :P
[03:02] <Neroon> Ricochet: Trying to find some info about, it. Might take some time
[03:02] <Ricochet> Neroon: Thanks so much for your help
[03:03] <Neroon> Ricochet: Or you might ask around (more specific this time) regarding the EEE and Resolution in X
[03:03] <Nitrousoxide> ANYONE HAS AN IDEA?
[03:03] <Nitrousoxide> Sorry caps
[03:03] <Nitrousoxide> Does anyone have an idea on my network-realted problem
[03:04] <Ricochet> Neroon: I have been asking on this IRC for about a month, so far no one has turned up anything.. its hard to get people to pay attention to you on this too sometimes
[03:04] <Nitrousoxide> you got that right ricochet
[03:05] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: what is your problem?
[03:05] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: i may be able to help
[03:05] <Neroon> Ricochet: You might have a look at this: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Asus_EeeTop   Expecially the Section "Screen" Part
[03:05] <MrPiracy> th0r: i dont want to use vesa driver, i have other things that needs nvidia's
[03:05] <MrPiracy> th0r: so is that a bug and can't be fixed? meaning nobody can restart X from jaunty?
[03:06] <th0r> MrPiracy: I understand, but for troubleshooting it might help determine where the problem lies.
[03:06] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration...... I am running Jaunty Jackalope... Can anyone help me?
[03:06] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: Well I have an Asus Eee Top 1602 and I loaded ubuntu on it and have been trying to get the correct screen resolution, wireless, and the touch screen working.. and i have tried many times and its been giving me hell
[03:06] <Neroon> Ricochet: But before you start changing the xorg.conf make a backup of it
[03:06] <Nitrousoxide> Hey, i installed ubuntu on my machine but its not picking up either of my network cards
[03:06] <Ricochet> Neroon: I tried that but it tells me to "Create" things that I dont know how to create and "edit" things that i dont know how to edit and it doesnt give me the commands
[03:06] <Neroon> MrPiracy:  Hello again :-) You just want to restart x?
[03:06] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: theres a page on supported notebooks
[03:06] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Wait .....
[03:06] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes
[03:06] <Neroon> Ricochet: I see
[03:07] <MrPiracy> Neroon: for now ... hehehehehe
[03:07] <th0r> MrPiracy: from what I read the error is sort of generic and could indicate any of a number of issues.
[03:07] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: and a special distro for netbooks, But one of them didnt have screen support
[03:07] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: one moment
[03:07] <MrPiracy> th0r: how about disable battery checking at all??? i am on a desktop
[03:07] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: Thanks for the help!
[03:07] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet
[03:07] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And you cant why exactly?
[03:07] <th0r> MrPiracy: I thought that was what the noacpi would do
[03:07] <Nitrousoxide> Ricocher: wait im not done https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[03:08] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : sudo chmod +x brightness and then run ./brightness
[03:08] <MrPiracy> Neroon: it freezes at "checking battery state"
[03:08] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Oh
[03:08] <jfaosdp> thanks Blizzerand, i 'm going to test it
[03:08] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: Mine isnt on that site
[03:08] <MrPiracy> th0r: well, it didn't change anything
[03:08] <as> help
[03:08] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: Mine is the Asus Eee Top
[03:08] <Blizzerand> !ask | as
[03:08] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: i just realised that, Therefore hasnt been tested, not reccomended, and probebly not yet supported
[03:09] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration...... I am running Jaunty Jackalope... Can anyone help me?
[03:09] <Ricochet> Neroon: Will you be able to help walk me through that website?
[03:09] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: i gaurentee you there will be patches later on.
[03:09] <Guest10896> ????/ does anybody know how to do remote desktop
[03:09] <MrPiracy> Neroon: any ideas? th0r just told me to add "noacpi" at kernel line in grub, but nothing changed
[03:09] <leaf-sheep> Zomg.  What's going on?  Ban evasion is useless? O.O
[03:09] <Neroon> Ricochet: The one from Nitrous?
[03:09] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: chmod: cannot access `brightness': No such file or directory
[03:09] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Not right now, no. Sorry
[03:09] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: There are videos on youtube of of people getting it to work and having tutorials on how ot do it, but i seem to fail at getting it to work
[03:09] <thorn_PL> hi
[03:09] <Ricochet> Neroon: No the one you sent me
[03:10] <MrPiracy> Neroon: hehe no prob, i got tons of other questions for ya
[03:10] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: link me
[03:10] <thorn_PL> anybody know ubuntu software working with samsung sgh-i600 ??
[03:10] <LordMetroid> What do you do when you can't kill this one(kill -9), 15678 - 02:03:34 VBoxSVC <defunct>
[03:10] <th0r> MrPiracy: from what I read it appears the error is misleading. All the threads seem to move quickly away from power issues to suspecting the video, that is why I suggested trying the vesa
[03:10] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Omg ...
[03:10] <Guest10896> does anybody know how to do remote desk top
[03:10] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: http://www.eeepc.it/guida-installare-ubuntu-su-asus-eee-top-1602/  you will have to put it into google and translate it though
[03:10] <Neroon> Ricochet: The prob is, I dont run gnome here, so I try to figure out, what editor you'd use best
[03:11] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration...... I am running Jaunty Jackalope... Can anyone help me?
[03:11] <thorn_PL> nope?
[03:11] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Sorry (didn't mention directory) Give me a sec
[03:11] <MrPiracy> th0r: but it can't be a video problem with NVIDIA and ATI ... these are the only two brands in the market
[03:11] <th0r> Guest10896: do you want to access a windows computer via remote desktop, or a linux computer
[03:11] <Guest10896> ubuntu linux
[03:11] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: Neroon sent this one to me too http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Asus_EeeTop
[03:11] <MrPiracy> th0r: if jaunty can't handle these, it can't handle X restarting at all
[03:12] <Nitrousoxide> ricochet: well what part are you being stuck on
[03:12] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp ; Which video card do you use
[03:12] <Nitrousoxide> ricochet: If any?
[03:12] <th0r> MrPiracy: well, I can only go on what I read, I have no personal experience with that error...never encountered it. ONly offered the noacpi as I assumed it was a power management issue
[03:12] <MrPiracy> Neroon: maybe i should try setting root password ... what do u think huh?
[03:12] <MrPiracy> hehe
[03:12] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: Ati radeon hd2400 i think so ...
[03:12] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: nice machine
[03:12] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: I guess he just needs to edit his xorg.conf to fit his resolution
[03:12] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: So people have done it, its just me personally that is having trouble with it.. Whenever I edit the xorg.conf file and restart gdm, everything goes black and I can do nothing
[03:12] <duane1> hi all
[03:13] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: Thats what is says in multiple tutorials
[03:13] <MrPiracy> th0r: ok, thx for trying
[03:13] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration...... I am running Jaunty Jackalope... Can anyone help me?
[03:13] <Neroon> MrPiracy: No, just invite everyone and his dog, to f... your harddisk :-)
[03:13] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: i think its jsut rial and error
[03:13] <MrPiracy> th0r: do u happen to know how i could set my screen resolution to whatever i want in xorg.conf?
[03:13] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: just keep trying different settings till its fine.
[03:13] <wilber> klk
[03:13] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: Thought so, but I can't tell him, which editor to use. You maybe? I'm on kde here
[03:13] <MrPiracy> Neroon: hahahhahahhh
[03:13] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: i suggested trial and error
[03:13] <th0r> MrPiracy: no, sorry I don't
[03:13] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: How do I do that?
[03:14] <LordMetroid> How do I kill zombies?
[03:14] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: well anything that can edit text
[03:14] <OttifantSir> Is it clean-up day in the channel tonight?
[03:14] <th0r> LordMetroid: the zombies don't hurt anything and will eventually be cleaned up by the system, not worth worrying about
[03:14] <Pricey> OttifantSir: yes
[03:14] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: Dont tell me, tell Rico. He never used one, I guess
[03:14] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: Use a text editor to edit your .conf file
[03:14] <LordMetroid> it takes up 100% of one of the cores I have
[03:14] <Nitrousoxide> Ok
[03:14] <wilber> desacata
[03:14] <arooni> how do i make it so i can emulate 3rd mouse button on latest ubuntu?
[03:14] <LordMetroid> slowing everything down
[03:14] <smart-01> jdklfaksdjfa
[03:14] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: ok
[03:14] <MrPiracy> I want to use resolution 1280x1024, if i set it in nvidia-settings it's applied successfully, but when i reboot, it goes back to 1024x800. how can i fix that?
[03:15] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: one moment please
[03:15] <smart-01> aing teu ngarti
[03:15] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: I am sorry to be difficult.. im a newbie.
[03:15] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration...... I am running Jaunty Jackalope... Can anyone help me?
[03:15] <MrPiracy> Neroon: rmllp
[03:15] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: hey i ahve amy own problems too, My netowrk cards arnt being detected
[03:16] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: you have to edit your xorg.conf file
[03:16] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: what are ur network cards?
[03:16] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: with a text editor
[03:16] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiract: one moment please
[03:16] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Read my lllip?
[03:16] <yabuk1> hey, I'm using SCIM on  ubuntu to type Hangul,anyone know how Can I make it work with anki?
[03:16] <MrPiracy> Neroon: read my last line please
[03:16] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: so like gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:16] <yabuk1> or msn
[03:17] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy RTL81D
[03:17] <Neroon> MrPiracy: and you set it in the xorg.conf?
[03:17] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: Yeah jsut a text editor
[03:17] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: So after I do that.. then what? Everytime I copy and paste the text from the tutorials.. everything goes black..
[03:17] <yabuk1> ****amsn
[03:17] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i used "preferred resolution" option in it ... didn't work
[03:18] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: is it onboard? asus mobo?
[03:18] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: Ok well dont, What you do is, Trial and error i believe
[03:18] <Nitrousoxide> MrPircay: No i tried 2 PCI cards
[03:18] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: Two cards neither work
[03:18] <flanders> I created a shortcut launcher to a simple script I wrote; however, the script requires root privileges to run. It contains "rmmod" and "modprobe" in it. How do I have the launcher require me to enter the superuser password when I run it? Of course, in the terminal I would manually type out "sudo blah". What about in this case?
[03:18] <Nitrousoxide> MrPirate: one is RTL81D
[03:18] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: so how do i do that? just start punching random things in? I dont think I know enough about ubuntu to do that..
[03:18] <Neroon> MrPiracy: You might post your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and tell me the url then
[03:19] <Nitrousoxide> MrPirate: the other is IBM i think, PCI not Onboard
[03:19] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: ok let me see that
[03:19] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: i had problem with my asus onboard card in hardy ... i couldn't fix it, the solution was to use wireless instead
[03:19] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : cd /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCDD/   - and run those commands which I gave you before  < sorry >
[03:19] <MrPiracy> Neroon: one sec
[03:19] <Neroon> Ricochet: But backup before you edit the file, please
[03:19] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy, well its ubuntu server 9, I Installed it on another machine then moved the drive over
[03:19] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: would that affect it?
[03:19] <Ricochet> Neroon: How do i do that?
[03:20] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: Im sorry, i cant help you further, i think trian by error is the best way.
[03:20] <OttifantSir> flanders: I would do a gksudo to get a graphical dialog asking for password. But it might not be the correct way to do it. You should look into dialog.
[03:20] <MrPiracy> Neroon: http://pastebin.org/3123
[03:20] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: i can help you alter, not now.
[03:20] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: i haven't that directory, but i have /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/ . That's ok ?
[03:20] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: Just curious: Tried a different slot maybe?
[03:20] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: Ok! thank you!
[03:21] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: ive got two cards, both unresponsive
[03:21] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Try that ( I am not sure though)
[03:21] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: u moved the HD to another machine?
[03:21] <Nitrousoxide> Netoon: ill try swapping slots and all
[03:21] <Beatlesfan> hey all
[03:21] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy Ok let me explain, i took the Hd out, Install ubuntu server on a dif machine, and then put it back in
[03:21] <flanders> OttifantSir, as in implement the dialog event in the script itself?
[03:21] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: I read that, but both at the same time?
[03:22] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: like, both, ill try
[03:22] <Th3raid0r> I have an old Nvidia Ti4200 and after installing the correct drivers, X returns the error : (EE) NVIDIA(0):Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! ... a little further down it says - Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[03:22] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: why did u do that? was that card in that other machine u installed ubuntu?
[03:22] <rambo298_> Th3raid0r: what version of Ubuntu?
[03:22] <flanders> OttifantSir, it's a very simple script, no GUI involved. All it does is remove/add certain modules.
[03:22] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: The machine doesnt have a DVDdrive, and i only have DVDs
[03:22] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: my point is
[03:22] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: i moved to COMPLETLEY different hardware
[03:23] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: so No.
[03:23] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: look, shark@shark-desktop:/proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD$ ./brightness               bash: ./brightness: Permission denied
[03:23] <OttifantSir> flanders: Yes. I don't know if it's truly possible to have a dialog enter your superuser password, but you will probably get the answer to your question in #bash if you can understand them. Looked at them the other night, and to me it was ancient Greek
[03:23] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: well, that mite be the problem then .... wouldn't it be easier to move the dvd drive into the final machine?
[03:23] <flanders> LOL
[03:24] <flanders> I hear you.
[03:24] <Nitrousoxide> MrPriacy: let me shorten it, I ahve a working windwos 7 computer, i took the 7 drive out put a blank one, wrote to it, then into my other machine, it was installed on completley different hardware
[03:24] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : *sudo chmod +x brightness* and then run ./brightness
[03:24] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: i cant, i need that dvd drive in that machiner
[03:24] <flanders> I find it interesting how in the Linux world, they cater to both dummy, computer illeterate users and harcore computer geeks at the same time.
[03:24] <r3l1c> flanders:  is pretty special
[03:24] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: anyway .. same answer
[03:25] <r3l1c> is is its
[03:25] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: Neroon told me to try to use both at once
[03:25] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide:  install from network?
[03:25] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO I GOT IT WORKING!!!!
[03:25] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: But IDK, windwos freaks out when you install one one set of hardware then move to a completley new one, does linux do it too?
[03:25] <OttifantSir> flanders: And that is one of a myriad of reasons why we love it.
[03:25] <Nitrousoxide> Ricochet: i told oyu im awesome
[03:26] <Neroon> MrPiracy: No i didnt, Nitrousoxide. I asked IF you did so
[03:26] <Ricochet> Nitrousoxide: You are.
[03:26] <arand> flanders: if the script uses sudo you could just create a desktop launcher and check "run in terminal" that way the sudo prompt will appear... you could always use gksudo just for the nice password prompt though...
[03:26] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I enable Places>Recent documents?
[03:26] <Nitrousoxide> What
[03:26] <Nitrousoxide> Ahh im confused
[03:26] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: i think all OS'es will freak out because at install time all the hardware that you have will be detected.
[03:26] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Try to add or edit yours to more like this maybe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/222352/
[03:26] <Nitrousoxide> MrPriacy: teach me how to do that later please
[03:26] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy, so tell me Sir, how do i do newtork install
[03:27] <flanders> "Updating couldn't be easier. Just click on the tray icon (the tray icon is the little picture thingy in the bottom right corner of your screen) and it will ask you if you wish to proceed with the update. Click "Install" to begin! Tada!"    "In order for your wireless card to work, you first need to add these URLs to your software repositories, then grab the firmware cutter. After doing so, open up a terminal and remove than add these module
[03:27] <flanders> s, manually, by typing out cryptic commands."
[03:27] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: although i changed the permissions, same reply :S
[03:27] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: are u dual booting this server machine with windows?
[03:27] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: Negative
[03:27] <Neroon> MrPiracy: But dont forget to back the file up first ...
[03:27] <gbear142751> I'm thinking it might be time for a fresh install... can anyone suggest a good howto for migrating a /home to storage and then reinstalling it?
[03:27] <Nitrousoxide> "MrPiracy: No i didnt, Nitrousoxide. I asked IF you did so" What?
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !home |  gbear142751
[03:28] <flanders> arand, I never considered that.
[03:28] <Nitrousoxide> So
[03:28] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp: sudo chmod 777 brightness and give it a try
[03:28] <Nitrousoxide> MrPirate: how do i netowrk install
[03:28] <flanders> "Run in terminal" will probably do the trick.
[03:28] <Nitrousoxide> Brb All, showering
[03:28] <flanders> It doesn't need to be fancy, so it'll suffice.
[03:28] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: nothing... sorry
[03:29] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: usb drive, nothing else u can boot from?
[03:29] <arand> flanders: Yea, I use a similar thing to "poke" my wireless, for some reason if I run an iwlist command it connects much faster often...
[03:29] <flanders> arand, OttifantSir, and all, thanks for the help. I'm going to try it out now, and take care!
[03:30] <flanders> arand, for me, once it works, I'm happy. As long as I can use my wireless adapter like normal.
[03:30] <AceBlade159> anybody know ho well ati graphics are supported
[03:30] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: as for the network install thing, i was just guessing ... i have no idea how to do that from a machine with no OS at all
[03:31] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: the easiest thing for u to do in my opinion is to get a dvd drive for a few mins to get ubuntu installed
[03:31] <r3l1c> AceBlade159:  I had a hard time setting it up for my father yesterday.. Ended up disabling the driver because I didn't have time to work on it. But from the default, ATI Catalys play bad with Display Manager
[03:32] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: and then u can take back the unit to the other machine
[03:32] <OttifantSir> AceBlade159: I have one 2450 that doesn't work, and one 3450 that does. According to documentation, everything from 9700 and below are supported by open drivers, while all above, such as X*** and HD are proprietary driver.
[03:32] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : what is the error that you get
[03:32] <MrPiracy> Neroon: gonna try what u said, brb
[03:33] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: i have to reboot, brb
[03:33] <AceBlade159> i'm asking because my girlfriend just orderd a dell laptop and they don't offer nvidia anymore
[03:33] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: bash: ./brightness: Permission denied
[03:33] <AceBlade159> except there ultra high end
[03:33] <arand> AceBlade159: only intel?
[03:33] <arand> AceBlade159: oh nvm
[03:33] <Joe_> I got the latest version of lm_sensors so it'll read my i7 temps, sensors shows it working but when I try to turn them on in gkrellm it just shows me a ton of temp1 labels and I have NO idea what each is... anyway to fix that?
[03:34] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Can you use gui
[03:34] <bucky> jfaosdp: chmod +x brightness
[03:34] <bucky> jfaosdp: make it executable
[03:34] <AceBlade159> arand: it's hard to get an amd proc, or an nvidia graphics
[03:34] <AceBlade159> mostly just stuck with intel ati
[03:35] <AceBlade159> arand which sucks because her and i both prefer amd/nvidia
[03:35] <AceBlade159> arand kind of ironic
[03:35] <arand> AceBlade159: hmm, I though dell only did intel/nvid...
[03:35] <jfaosdp> i gave it permissions, but doesn't work
[03:36] <AceBlade159> arandthey have amd proc's on some comps
[03:36] <AceBlade159> arand they have amd proc's on some comps
[03:36] <MrPiracy> Neroon: same s**t, dude
[03:36] <MrPiracy> Neroon: didn't work
[03:36] <AceBlade159> arand but mostly ati graphics
[03:36] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp ; If you can Go to System->Preferences->Startup Applications->Add and And add the chmod 777 and the ./brightness.( In different settings) Hope it works.
[03:36] <arand> AceBlade159: But I think we are getting a bit offtopic now :)
[03:37] <Neroon> MrPiracy: hm. What does Xorg.0.log say?
[03:37] <MrPiracy> Neroon: let me check
[03:37] <Nitrousoxide> Is MrPirate here?
[03:38] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: Check yourself: Type Mrpi and press tab
[03:38] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: i don't understood that of add the chmod 777 and the ./brightness in startup applications
[03:38] <mcw> hello
[03:39] <mcw> who is online tonight???
[03:39] <jfaosdp> didn't understand *
[03:40] <sha1> quit
[03:40] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : i made some googling and found that The default level of brightness that Ubuntu uses whenever it boots up is stored in brightness_default. No matter what you change the brightness file entry to, the next time you start your computer, it's going to use the default brightness again. There fore you have to run them at startup to solve  .
[03:41] <Nitrousoxide> Mrpi
[03:41] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon:in linux
[03:41] <jfaosdp> ahh, ok thanks
[03:41] <Neroon> Nitrousoxide: What?
[03:41] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i extracted the important lines ... http://pastebin.org/3130
[03:41] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: now i am
[03:41] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : So even if you can run ./brightness no use as every setting will be lost when you reboot ....
[03:42] <Nitrousoxide> Neroon: "itrousoxide: Check yourself: Type Mrpi and press tab"
[03:42] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: my first problem was that my pc was too hot ... so i thought that it was for the brightness
[03:42] <Nitrousoxide> MrPiracy: i have an old machine, its come down to network or USB boot
[03:42] <mistereverywhere> hello all i have an hp pavillion dv7 laptop that has a built in wireless card and when i try to connect to a wireless network with wpa protection it cycles the power of the wireless card, any one know of a fix for this?
[03:43] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: i thought so, because i have an iMac, and screen + cpu is all in one
[03:43] <Flynsarmy> How do i enable all scripts for current domain in noscript? not whitelisting a specific domain, i mean current domain for any page i'm browsing
[03:43] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Then take out the nvidia-auto-select +0+0 from your xorg.conf
[03:43] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : lol Brightness cannot be a factor for that .
[03:43] <jfaosdp> lol
[03:43] <jfaosdp> so what :S
[03:43] <MrPiracy> Neroon: hmmmm ok, brb
[03:43] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And as you can see, you can forget the preferred mode line
[03:44] <MrPiracy> Nitrousoxide: one more reason for u to add a dvd drive to it ... it will be the only possible way for u to install ubuntu correctly
[03:44] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes
[03:44] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Try the ubuntu forums  or some tech forums . Do yo have a windows partition
[03:44] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i dont know why though, it works
[03:44] <arand> Flynsarmy: If you have the item in the upper toolbar you can configure that to happen when clicking on it..
[03:45] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, just installed minimal-cli + kde-core, and need to setup wireless, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:45] <lint> is it possible to network 2 different computers running different os software, windows vista and ubuntu for4 example?
[03:45] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: a windows partition for what ? :S
[03:45] <mattgyver> How can i logout my servers gnome session to the terminal without restarting?
[03:45] <Neroon> MrPiracy: It works now?
[03:46] <Flynsarmy> arand, there is 'enable all for this page' but that will only whitelist the current page, not the current domain regardless of what URL you hvae loaded won't it?
[03:46] <mistereverywhere> i have a wireless card that cycles power and doesnt connect when trying to connect any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:47] <Neroon> mattgyver: go to terminal 1: ctr+al+f1 and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop i guess. If it doesnt work you might get to x with ctrl+alt+f7 or f8, not sure with gnome
[03:47] <arand> Flynsarmy: The top toolbar applet has more options and from what I hear, the one you're after.
[03:47] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Ah never mind , I am sure why your PC gets hot but it cannot be the brightness and I cannot be much of help . Try the forums
[03:47] <MrPiracy> Neroon: was editing the file ... i have to REBOOT because i cant restart X, remember? ;)
[03:48] <Nitrousoxide> MrPirace: ok let me get my screw driver
[03:48] <Cyber_Akuma> .... ok, this is weird, no matter what I do, GParted insists that my swap partition has the label of a partition I deleted
[03:48] <mcw> anyone feel like chatting???
[03:49] <Steve_> hay mcw
[03:49] <eggenz7> im having problems with ebox starting...
[03:49] <arand> Flynsarmy: also, in ns options it seems you can add those options to the bottom-right applet.
[03:49] <arand> !ot | mcw
[03:49] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: ok, thanks. Another question ... you remember me blizzard lol ... do you know when starcraft 2 will be launch ? hehehe
[03:49] <eggenz7> it keeps saying "not running within active session) at /usr/share/perl5/EBox/GConfModule.pm
[03:49] <Flynsarmy> arand, you talking about 'allow scripts globally' ?
[03:49] <sleepycoder> Anyone familiar with Azalia HD audio front panels?  I bought one that connects to my mainboard.  It has only two audio plugs (mic, front/headphone).  The sound works fine with my 2 chan analog headphones.  I'm thinking the technology is designed so the same port could be used as digital though instead.  Anyone know about this?
[03:49] <eggenz7> anybody know where i can find the details on this?
[03:50] <mcw> ok heres a question then
[03:50] <arand> Flynsarmy: no
[03:50] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Sorry never played starcraft or whatever
[03:50] <mcw> how do i run a c compiler in ubuntu?
[03:50] <MrPiracy> Neroon: same thing, man
[03:50] <mcw> and is there one
[03:50] <MrPiracy> Neroon: 1024x800 still
[03:50] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Getting annyoing
[03:50] <eggenz7> mcw use gcc
[03:50] <mcw> I am trying to learn how to programme
[03:50] <jfaosdp> Blizzerand: hahaha ok, i advise you
[03:50] <Steve_> mcw: lol
[03:50] <Neroon> MrPiracy: And still the same in xorg.log?
[03:50] <MrPiracy> Neroon: it IS
[03:51] <r3l1c> gcc <filename.c> <outputbinary>
[03:51] <MrPiracy> Neroon: let me check ...
[03:51] <sleepycoder> mcm: gcc from command line, maybe called indirectly from a makefile?  eclipse would work well as a gui front end but could still use gcc in the background to compile.
[03:51] <mcw> what is gcc?
[03:51] <thiebaude> !gcc
[03:51] <mcw> lol
[03:51] <r3l1c> gcc is the linux c compiler
[03:51] <jfaosdp> Good night, all guys!
[03:51] <jfaosdp> chao Blizzerand
[03:51] <mcw> can i add it from synaptic?
[03:51] <Blizzerand> jfaosdp : Have fun Cheers
[03:51] <arand> Flynsarmy: There are options to have menu entries for "full domains" and "full addresses" that's what youre after?
[03:52] <mcw> and will it show up in the menu
[03:52] <mcw> ?
[03:52] <arand> r3l1c: the gnu c compiler mind you :)
[03:52] <Steve_> apt-get build-essentials
[03:52] <r3l1c> arand:  yes sorry
[03:52] <r3l1c> lol
[03:52]  * Dr_willis worries about someone wantin g to install 'gcc' and not knowing what it is..
[03:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:52] <arand> mcw: it is a command line application and will most probably have to be run from command line
[03:52] <mcw> I tried that, says it's installed but it's not under applications??
[03:53] <Flynsarmy> arand, yea i checked 'temporarily allow top-level sites by default' and set it to 'base 2nd level domains' but when i loaded youtube it still failed
[03:53] <Steve_> mcw: are u for real?
[03:53] <r3l1c> Dr_willis:  I'm with you
[03:53] <Dr_willis> mcw:  it dosent have icons
[03:53] <mcw> of course I'm for real??
[03:53] <gogeta1> Dr_willis: the love of crupption
[03:53] <r3l1c> mcw:  open a terminal
[03:53] <mcw> so what is the run command?
[03:53] <r3l1c> mcw:  type gcc --version
[03:54] <r3l1c> mcw:  Now go learn to program in linux
[03:54] <mcw> gcc --version
[03:54] <mcw> oops
[03:54] <r3l1c> mcw:  yes
[03:54] <ahorner> How would I remap button 9 on my mouse to work as button 2 in Jaunty?
[03:54] <mcw> 4.3.3
[03:54] <MrPiracy> Neroon: yes, same probs
[03:55] <ctmjr> mcw try this and read it man gcc
[03:55] <Steve_> 4.4.0
[03:55] <gogeta1> ahorner: err you dont
[03:55] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Still the nvidia-auto-select?
[03:55] <r3l1c> mcw:  not google programming is C and goo luck
[03:55] <r3l1c> programming in C
[03:55] <ahorner> gogeta1: why not?
[03:55] <gogeta1> ahorner: lol  i dunno if the 2 buttions work why cry
[03:56] <mcw> i was reading forums and allot of people said to learn c first???
[03:56] <MrPiracy> Neroon: nope, i took it off
[03:56] <MrPiracy> Neroon: there's a time it says "Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI from CRT-0's EDID. DPI set to (75, 75); computed from built-in default"
[03:56] <ahorner> gogeta1: i have a microsoft comfort 3000 and i want to map my side button to middle click because 3/4 times i miss middle clicking because it is so stiff and scrolls too easily
[03:56] <MrPiracy> Neroon: how can i set DPI manually?
[03:56] <gogeta1> heck if all i 9 work jumo for joy
[03:56] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Never had to ...
[03:56] <MrPiracy> Neroon: let me google, brb
[03:57] <arand> Flynsarmy: well youtube needs both youtube.com and ytimg.com allowed
[03:57] <izap> MrPiracy: try to use Option "UseEDID" "False"
[03:57] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, just installed minimal-cli + kde-core, and need to setup wireless, can anyone point me in the right direction? the laptop uses bcm4318 card, any other info, just ask me and i'll try and give it too you =)
[03:57] <mcw> I know I'm not an advanced user but we need ubuntu to become more popular than windows
[03:57] <MrPiracy> izap: i did, it's already there
[03:57] <Neroon> izap: That might help ...
[03:57] <mcw> and it took me 2 years to get this far
[03:57] <mcw> trying all kinds of distro's
[03:57] <gogeta1> ahorner: have you tryed prefs mouse
[03:57] <r3l1c> Well go learn to program then
[03:57] <izap> mcw: you do imagine windows is like 80% market share and linux is 1%
[03:57] <brian> im looking for a program i can open like gnome do that i can quickly check the spelling of a word. and i would like it to show words as im typing
[03:57] <izap> lol
[03:58] <brian> any ideas
[03:58] <Flynsarmy> arand, aha! thanks for the help :)
[03:58] <Neroon> mcw: As long as the game companies dont support linux massively there will be no big movement from win to lin, sorry
[03:58] <mcw> yes i know
[03:58] <MrPiracy> izap: see my xorg.conf (UseEDID is commented, but i already tried it uncommented) .... http://pastebin.org/3123
[03:58] <gogeta1> ahorner: i dunno aought a m$ mouse tho
[03:58] <r3l1c> Neroon:  I agree
[03:58] <mcw> well then why don't programmers improve wine ??
[03:58] <Steve_> neroon: and the linux desktop still have more work to do
[03:58] <Neroon> Steve_: Sad but true
[03:58] <gogeta1> mcw: go inprove it for us
[03:59] <mcw> so that it becomes a non issue???
[03:59] <mcw> ya right??
[03:59] <gogeta1> mcw: with little doc and no source
[03:59] <arand> mcw: they do, it is complicated (if it is easy, why don't you code it yourrself ;)
[03:59] <izap> MrPiracy: i have the same card and i think the same problem
[03:59] <izap> lol
[03:59] <edoceo> where does atp or dpkg keep list of installed packages?  Have offline disc to inspect
[03:59] <gogeta1> mcw: on ms stuff
[03:59] <ahorner> gogeta1: yeah its not in there. I suppose I have to edit xorg but I dont know what to
[03:59] <mcw> I don't even know how to programme
[03:59] <r3l1c> mcw:  go learn google is your friend
[03:59] <gogeta1> mcw: then what do you do
[03:59] <MrPiracy> izap: :(
[04:00] <MrPiracy> izap: let me google something
[04:00] <izap> i had this problem for the past two weeks
[04:00] <gogeta1> man i love that fix it yet offer no help
[04:00] <mcw> so you havent answered my question how do you open or run the c compiler
[04:00] <mcw> ???
[04:00] <izap> mcw: man gcc
[04:00] <mcw> I'm just trying to learn from people here
[04:01] <gogeta1> mcw: we are not devs where users at least most of us
[04:01] <nevyn> mcw: or install kdevelop to get a visual C equivilent
[04:01] <pi_over_4> sudo apt-get python
[04:01] <mcw> ahh ok that's better
[04:01] <nevyn> mcw: the majority of linux dev's I know use various workflows
[04:01] <mcw> what are dev's???
[04:01] <izap> lmao
[04:01] <nevyn> developers
[04:01] <mcw> oh developers?
[04:02] <r3l1c> ha!
[04:02] <mcw> ok
[04:02] <mcw> ha ha
[04:02] <r3l1c> sweet!
[04:02] <nevyn> mcw: vim+gcc+make is still quite popular for C development
[04:02] <rredd4> how can i tell if my sony video camera is connected?  its connected via usb, but don't see it mounted.  when i disconnect the camera, i get a warning about disconnecting it improperly
[04:02] <Steve_> why is pcspkr not in blacklist yety?
[04:03] <mcw> so I have to install whitch programme to start learning?
[04:03] <Steve_> mcw: go download eclipse or netbeans and use some google...
[04:03] <gogeta1> hahaha
[04:03] <ctmjr> mcw: you should go to #ubuntu-offtopic and ask your questions unrelated to ubuntu support
[04:03] <diego_>  hola alguien sabe un programa bn parecido a visual para programar c++ para ubuntu??
[04:03] <mcw> I downloaded an e-book
[04:04] <tonsofpcs> any suggestion for a linux app to use with an NTSC USB TV Tuner?
[04:04] <mcw> that's what this is for
[04:04] <thiebaude> !esp
[04:04] <gogeta1> Steve_: guess he think the program will hold his hand lol
[04:04] <arand> Steve_: !es | diego_
[04:04] <mcw> to ask questions and share your knowledge
[04:04] <mcw> all the questions I am asking are about ubuntu
[04:04] <ekimmargni> How can I enable Recent documents menu?
[04:04] <Steve_> so pcspkr ... WTF why is it still around
[04:04] <izap> not really
[04:05] <mcw> so it's not off topic
[04:05] <gogeta1> mcw: no there abought programming
[04:05] <mcw> and you don't own the chatroom
[04:05] <izap> lol
[04:05] <mcw> in Ubuntu
[04:05] <Steve_> any anyone else get annoyed at the ubunut theam song after a fresh instlll... because the volume is set to max at default
[04:05] <gogeta1> mcw: hahah ops a commith
[04:05] <thiebaude> mcw, this isn't a programing channel
[04:05] <arand> Steve_: I don't know, it only shows up on odd computers though...
[04:05] <izap> mcw: are you like 12 ?
[04:05] <mcw> i can ask whatever i like
[04:05] <gogeta1> Steve_: never herd it
[04:06] <mcw> no but you sound like you are
[04:06] <mcw> so rude
[04:06] <rredd4> someone op themselve and kick mcw
[04:06] <mcw> without provocation
[04:06] <izap> you mate are 12. i dont care.
[04:06] <mcw> see
[04:06] <zenlunatic> i just noticed my gnome clock is skipping seconds
[04:06] <pi_over_4> I'm 11!
[04:06] <gogeta1> trigger the op alert i forgot the command
[04:06] <ekimmargni> It's called /ignore folks - USE IT
[04:06] <mcw> you guys do this shit every time
[04:06] <arand> izap, mcw: please don't
[04:06] <mcw> don't what?
[04:06] <Steve_> wave by
[04:06] <rredd4> !language
[04:06] <mcw> I'm just trying to learn
[04:06] <ctmjr> !stop
[04:07] <mcw> and I get kicked
[04:07] <ekimmargni> mcw: Yes, you will get kicked, so stop it.
[04:07] <rredd4> mcw no u are whining
[04:07] <gogeta1> mcw: you ask in a tech support channel not a dev channel
[04:07] <mcw> forget it later
[04:07] <Steve_> mcw: good luck
[04:08] <mcw> ya thanks
[04:08] <rredd4> how can i tell if my video camera is mounted?
[04:08] <meglo> rredd4: does your video camera act as a storage device or something
[04:09] <rredd4> meglo it has a hd
[04:09] <rredd4> meglo sony hard drive video camera
[04:09] <meglo> rredd4: ok, go into gnome's system log and see if it popped up with anything in dmesg
[04:09] <Steve_> lol mount a video cam
[04:09] <uman> what's so "lol" about that
[04:09] <meglo> Steve_ the video cam doubles as a storage device
[04:09] <uman> seems reasonable to me
[04:09] <meglo> You're the one mistaken.
[04:09] <Steve_> should c it in lsusb
[04:10] <meglo> uman: dmesg, lsusb, etc. if it didn't pop up on your desktop i guess you can format it fat32 or something if it acts like a flash drive
[04:10] <Steve_> ya i guess if its UVC it should be a stream.  but ya i dont know linux well
[04:11] <meglo> what is UVC, i've heard of it before
[04:11] <J11> hi, how do I mark a package as already installed manually(make install)?
[04:11] <Steve_> umm some standered that works well for wideo cams in linux
[04:11] <Steve_> video cams
[04:11] <shaullx> just found out about "sudo!!"
[04:11] <shaullx> cool lol
[04:12] <ekimmargni> How can I enable Recent documents menu?
[04:12] <bucky> J11: install equivs and use that
[04:12] <rredd4> meglo the vid camera is mounted via usb, what would i c in dmesg?
[04:12] <malice> man this place is hoppin tonight
[04:12] <uman> meglo: I think you may have meant to highlight someone else
[04:12] <ahorner> How can I make my 9 button on my mouse work as my 2 button?
[04:13] <gogeta1> bucky: you still live
[04:13] <gogeta1> lol
[04:13] <meglo> uman: oh sorry
[04:13] <uman> meglo: np
[04:13] <rredd4> meglo put an "if" before that sentence
[04:13] <bucky> gogeta1: i'm mounting my vid cam
[04:13] <FloridaGuy> does ubuntu have anything like system-config-display a gui for configureing xorg..like in fedora
[04:13] <zenlunatic> where do you buy a 9 button mouse good god
[04:14] <malice> lol
[04:14] <Steve_> hah
[04:14] <zenlunatic> just use a second mb
[04:14] <malice> new egg zen ;-)
[04:14] <zenlunatic> kb
[04:14] <meglo> rredd4: You can look at gnome-log and unplug-plug it back in and have the info from dmesg appear new an in bold to take a look.
[04:14] <CptnAwesome> is there a way to install extra apps in the "system settings" of kde? ive installed kde-core on a cli install of ubuntu and cant find anywhere to install/configure my wireless.
[04:14] <gogeta> bucky: isnt that a matter of pluggin it in
[04:14] <meglo> rredd4: I'm not exactly sure what you would see, but that would give you it.
[04:14] <bucky> gogeta: exactly
[04:14] <gogeta> lol
[04:14] <ahorner> zenlunatic: not 9 buttons, L click, R click, mid click, scroll up, scroll down, side click. doesnt use the others
[04:14] <rredd4> meglo ok
[04:14] <MrPiracy> Neroon: it now sets it to 1280x1024 but down the end it sets back to 1024x800
[04:15] <MrPiracy> grrrr
[04:15] <bucky> i plug it in and lsusb
[04:15] <meglo> 1024x768 should be enough for anybody
[04:15] <Steve_> no me.
[04:15] <shaullx> i have g9 it has 9 buttons
[04:15] <Bob_Dole> 3.5gb ought to be enough anybody(on a 32bit x86 system not using PAE)
[04:15] <gogeta> bucky: well if the pc sees it it should automount but at32 can be flaky
[04:16] <izap> MrPiracy: what monitor you do you have
[04:16] <Cyber_Akuma> how many times are you going to say that Bob_Dole?
[04:16] <rredd4> meglo its not mounted, how do i mount it via usb?
[04:16] <Cyber_Akuma> and I assure you, 4 gigs is BARELY enough for me on a non-gaming system
[04:16] <izap> meglo: i need 2058x1152 ;] and 1024x769 is clearly not enough
[04:16] <Cyber_Akuma> which is why my next build I plan to have 12 gigs
[04:16] <gbear14275> I am having problems with pidgin and now all my firefox bookmarks are gone and I can't login to google... I'm not sure what is wrong at all... but things seem to be getting progressively worse
[04:16] <Neroon> MrPiracy: Err, what end?
[04:16] <meglo> rredd4: Did you see in gnome-logs' dmesg what /dev/<whatever> it was bound to?
[04:16] <MrPiracy> izap: philips 190c6 ... 19 in
[04:17] <rredd4> no
[04:17] <Bob_Dole> Cyber_Akuma, as many times as it takes! and, also, you can only use 3.5gb of that memory on a 32bit x86 system not using PAE.
[04:17] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: lol netbook user
[04:17] <bucky> rredd4: lsusb
[04:17] <MrPiracy> Neroon: no error messages, it sets 1280, but in the end of log file it says setting mode 1024
[04:17] <tongueroo> hey guys, was wondering if anyone could point me to some useful resources on how to setup up a server with my own precompiled binaries of pacakges i want to install on multiple servers, so that each server doesnt have to compile the packages over and over...
[04:17] <Cyber_Akuma> nope
[04:17] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: did anyone answer your question about xorg?
[04:17] <CptnAwesome> are bcm43xx cards supported out of the box in 9.04 ?
[04:17] <meglo> rredd4: nothing came up? it isn't being detected? please say my nick so I can see you responding to me.
[04:18] <Cyber_Akuma> Bob_Dole: im using 64bit operating systems
[04:18] <MrPiracy> Neroon: i used a parameter that i found ... "UseEDIDDpi" FALSE
[04:18] <Brando753> i made a truecrypt partition on my jump drive any reason it is read only?
[04:18] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, no
[04:18] <Bob_Dole> Cyber_Akuma, I specified 32bit each time I said it.
[04:18] <brian> i just installed gdesklets thrrew synaptic but when i click on the icon i get this error----------Failed to execute child process "gdesklets" (No such file or directory)
[04:18] <mattgyver> I am using fail2ban, i have set the bantime to permanent (-1) however it continues to unban the user after about 10 minutes, could someone help?
[04:18] <tongueroo> this has got to be a common thing to setup an nfs mount or somethign with precompiled binaries.. but i cant find any thing from google
[04:18] <meglo> rredd4: also I'd google your webcam's model number + 'ubuntu' and see what comes up there.
[04:18] <Cyber_Akuma> not using PAE, yes I know
[04:18] <bucky> tongueroo: that's why you make your own deb packages
[04:18] <rredd4> meglo ok
[04:18] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: almost everything should be autodetected - the rest is configured in xorg.conf manaully.
[04:18] <Cyber_Akuma> You remind me of those guys on the radio that talk liek 200 words a minute about hte side effects of a drug right near the end
[04:18] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[04:18] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: was there something specific you're trying to do?
[04:18] <meglo> rredd4: But I'm not certain I can help you, never used a webcam before... and certainly not one with built-in storage :\
[04:19] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: lol
[04:19] <helmet> so i just moved my hard drive from my old computer to another one, should i do a re-install so all the software and hardware get to shake hands?
[04:19] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, yeah...get 1280x1040
[04:19] <meglo> rredd4: I'm just assuming it operates like a USB thumbdrive - but I could be wrong about that. You need to check it out :\
[04:19] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: are you using exotic hardware?
[04:19] <Ricochet> Hey guys, I have a question.. I have 8.10 and I have edited the xorg.conf and added a few side programs and edited some stuff.. if i upgrade to 9.04 will it erase everything that I have done?
[04:19] <Neroon> MrPiracy: ok, but what sets it back to 1024?
[04:19] <Cyber_Akuma> I assure you my 12gig build will be using a 64bit system :P
[04:19] <gbear14275> could anyone recommend which log files to take a look at to possibly diagnose some of these issues?   I am in syslog right now but the only error which seems out of place is Jul 19 23:11:15 Mustache pidgin: *** glibc detected *** pidgin: double free or corruption (out): 0x0000000001feaf80 ***
[04:19] <izap> Cyber_Akuma: im getting high, i dont get any side-effects from that lol unlike alcohol.
[04:19] <FloridaGuy> just a nvidia gforce6
[04:19] <Cyber_Akuma> 12 gig is kinda overkill, but I wanted 8 gigs and can't
[04:19] <Nitrousoxide>  Hello im back
[04:19] <Cyber_Akuma> its either 3, 6, or 12
[04:20] <Cyber_Akuma> so I guess ill go with 12
[04:20] <Nitrousoxide> How can Rebbot and boot off a cd in ubuntu server?
[04:20] <rredd4> meglo lsusb shows bus 1 & 2 device 001 ID ld6b:0002 linux foundation 2.0 root hub        which means nothing to me
[04:20] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: some side effects of linux may couse stress,  confusion, a hate of microsoft, lack of sleep and depression
[04:20] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, i get 1280x1040 in mandriva and fedora
[04:20] <gogeta> lol
[04:20] <Cyber_Akuma> So far it just makes me hate linux
[04:20] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[04:20] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: pastebin your xorg.conf for me?
[04:21] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni,  in fedora useing systen-config-display
[04:21] <Cyber_Akuma> I sadly find the tools most people use and swear by to be utterly unusable
[04:21] <Cyber_Akuma> especially VI
[04:21] <gogeta> Cyber_Akuma: sighn effects do vary
[04:21] <gogeta> lol
[04:21] <julian__> For some reason my Sound in ubuntu is VERY low. almost inaudible
[04:21] <gogeta> julian__: so turn it up
[04:21] <Cyber_Akuma> a 1000 sided rubics cube ie easier to figure out than that thing
[04:21] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[04:21] <Nitrousoxide> Hello, How can i reboot and? boot off a cd in ubuntu
[04:21] <helmet> should i do a full re-install of ubuntu if i put my original hard drive into another pc?
[04:22] <bucky> julian__: do you have a little speaker icon in the upper right hand corner of your desktop?
[04:22] <julian__> yes.
[04:22] <Cyber_Akuma> yeah yeah I know, a realic from the 70s when computers were far too weak to have a UI that makes sense........... its no longer 1970
[04:22] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: you answerd your own question
[04:22] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: There is System>Preferences>Display - did you fiddle there?
[04:22] <bucky> julian__: click on it
[04:22] <uknow> how do i see the hard drives on ubuntu from vista
[04:22] <julian__> yes.
[04:22] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: No i didnt
[04:22] <rredd4> bucky  lsusb shows "bus 1 device 001 ID ld6b:0002 linux foundation 2.0 root hub"        which means nothing to me
[04:22] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: reboot boot off cd
[04:22] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta:w when my omputer boots
[04:22] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: Theres no boot from cd function
[04:22] <Cyber_Akuma> my watch can probaly run nano
[04:22] <Bob_Dole> Mac OS and linux made me enjoy computing again..mac more so than linux, but I needed faster hardware than a 2.33ghz Core 2 Duo, a MAX of 3 GB RAM(not 3.5) and a ATI Radeon X1600 video card.. for something in my budget.
[04:22] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: you booted off a cd when you installed it
[04:22] <gbear14275> Nitrousoxide: put cd in tray, hit power button select restart... should boot off cd by default, if not check bios
[04:23] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: No, long story
[04:23] <bucky> rredd4: look like your device is not detected
[04:23] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, xorg has to have the 1280x1040 for that to give
[04:23] <Cyber_Akuma> .... then again, most watches don't have a 66mhz cpu, 8 megs of ram, usb, or a touchscreen XD
[04:23] <Nitrousoxide> Ok
[04:23] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, http://pastebin.com/m183e1fe7
[04:23] <Nitrousoxide> Gbear: start a chat with me
[04:23] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: bios very on changing boot some you press esc
[04:23] <bucky> rredd4: is your device a usb 2.0 device?
[04:23] <rredd4> bucky do u know how to mount it?
[04:23] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: Lisen
[04:23] <rredd4> bucky yes
[04:23] <rredd4> bucky brand new camera
[04:23] <meglo> rredd4: when you plug in your webcam, you should see it at the end of your dmesg. What you posted to me just looks like chipset information or something
[04:23] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: eww, where did you get all this cruft?
[04:23] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: im suing a net vista, very onld computer, you cant change the boot options
[04:24] <bucky> rredd4: you need to google it and find the driver for it and then modprobe <driver_name>
[04:24] <rredd4> meglo that was lsusb results
[04:24] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: to old for cd boot you can make a boot floppy to enable it
[04:24] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, get all what
[04:24] <Cyber_Akuma> I have never heard of a computer where you cannot change boot options in the bios
[04:24] <nafta> how can i divide windows in vim?
[04:24] <rredd4> bucky ok, ty
[04:24] <uman> nafta: q!
[04:24] <uman> nafta: then run emacs
[04:24] <rredd4> meglo google work to be done, ty
[04:24] <julian__> so bucky, even though i turned up my master volume it is still very LOW
[04:24] <ctmjr> julian__: have you checked alsamixer in the terminal?
[04:24] <Steve_> PCM volume
[04:24] <Bob_Dole> julian__, turn up your PCM
[04:25] <Cyber_Akuma> are there any other volume controls?
[04:25] <meglo> rredd4: sorry I couldn't help you, i'm not sharp on stuff really
[04:25] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, have you tried running gksudo nvidia-settings ?
[04:25] <Guest92063> hi someone is good with tv tuners ???
[04:25] <bucky> rredd4: but it should show up in there.. it's like it's not plugged in *shrug*
[04:25] <ekimmargni> FloridaGuy: all the crap in your xorg.conf. Did ubuntu generate that?
[04:25] <rredd4> bucky  lol
[04:25] <bucky> rredd4: unplug it and plug it back in and lsusb again
[04:25] <rredd4> meglo u know more than me
[04:25] <Guest92063> need a tv tuner specialist and fast !!!
[04:25] <julian__> i don't know how to. im fairly new to Linux in general but i understand the terminal, what would i type to check my alsa mixer?
[04:25] <rredd4> bucky ok
[04:25] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: You didnt READ my question
[04:25] <bastidrazor> ekimmargni, before 8.10 that is how any xorg.conf would look.
[04:25] <izap> julian__: alsamiser
[04:25] <arand> Cyber_Akuma: vi is only annoying if you have not come to terms with it, once you are confortable with it it's very usable. But it does require the step of learning it before it is properly useful..
[04:25] <uman> julian__: just run the program alsamixer in your favorite terminal emulator
[04:26] <Guest92063> hey noobs !!!
[04:26] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: How can i reboot into install cd from ubuntu server WHEN, the bios has no boot from disk function
[04:26] <ekimmargni> bastidrazor, FloridaGuy: Well, with recent versions of xorg you should have to configure basically nothing in xorg.conf... but perhaps ask in #xorg for help?
[04:26] <bucky> rredd4: this is what my mouse looks like in lsusb Bus 002 Device 002: ID 062a:0252 Creative Labs
[04:26] <ctmjr> julian__: alsamixer use the arrow keys
[04:26] <Nitrousoxide> Gogeta: "to old for cd boot you can make a boot floppy to enable it" they made 600 mb Floppys?
[04:26] <FloridaGuy> ekimmargni, sudo nvidia-xconfig....sudo nvidia-settings...then saved to x config
[04:26] <julian__> alright, i did that i ran alsamixer in terminal, now what do i do?
[04:26] <julian__> ohh
[04:26] <julian__> i see.
[04:26] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: thers boot floppys out there that can enable it on a old system
[04:26] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: oh boot floppy
[04:27] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: sorry didnt read, how do i make one?
[04:27] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: you insert boot floppy and slect cd boot lemmit find one
[04:27] <rredd4> bucky ok, i unplugged it and replugged it in, no difference.  my vid camera shows that its connected
[04:27] <bucky> rredd4: this is what my mouse looks like in lsusb Bus 002 Device 002: ID 062a:0252 Creative Labs
[04:27] <bucky> nothing like that?
[04:27] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, add another metamode for the resolution you want
[04:27] <rredd4> bucky all i see at the end is: root hub
[04:27] <richardcavell> Does someone here want let me see their desktop remotely?  I want to practise using remote desktop viewer
[04:28] <bucky> rredd4: how about giving me a psychic hint at to which cam you have
[04:28] <julian__> Bucky. that somewhat helped, it is slightly louder now.
[04:28] <rredd4> bucky sony dcr-sr45
[04:29] <FloridaGuy> bastidrazor, add it like this.."1024x768_60 +0+0" but "1280x1040_60 +0+0"
[04:29] <Nitrousoxide> gogets: yes i know what they are, just never used one before, hmm, how am i going to write it to a floppy
[04:29] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: and how do you even KNOW i have a floppy?
[04:30] <gmoss> Hi all, I was playing around with mount options for one of my usb ntfs drives (not in fstab, just in right click -> properties -> drive -> mount options) and entered an invalid option, and now it won't let me remount. Where are these options stored, so I can delete the bad one? Thanks...
[04:30] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: hears a good one http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[04:30] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: i hope you do oon a old machine like that
[04:31] <Nitrousoxide> Ok
[04:31] <Nitrousoxide> the only floppy i have is the one in the machine, TRANSPLANT TIME!
[04:31] <Guest92063> need help for 1st tv tuner setup on linux !!!
[04:31] <Steve_> gmoss: that suxs
[04:32] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, my modeline looks like "1024x768@60" with quotes.
[04:32] <Bob_Dole> Only functional floppy drive I have.. intionally had the eject button broken off so the etherboot floppy wouldn't get ejected :o
[04:32] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: put sbm on a floppy using dd as the site says that will enable cd boot on a old machine
[04:32] <Guest92063> fuck noobs !!!
[04:32] <rredd4> bucky don't see anything on google for my vid camera
[04:32] <Steve_> gmoss: what hapons when you try mount /dev/(what ever the drive is)
[04:32] <gmoss> Steve_: yes...any clue as to where they are? I looked in ~/.gconfd/..., couldn't find anything...
[04:32] <richardcavell> Guest92063: mate, no one knows how to help you. TV Tuners are not going to be well supported under Linux.
[04:32] <ctmjr> !ohmy | Guest92063
[04:32] <Roasted> does anybody know with Ubuntu how I can download a streaming flash video from a web site?
[04:32] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: keep a copy handy if you need to use it again
[04:33] <Steve_> gmoss: perhaps you can mount it then fix the problem that way
[04:33] <vld> everyone was a noob once
[04:33] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: one problem, i have no floppys
[04:33] <uknow> hey one thing i updated my video setting but when i boot up at the log on screen i cant see it the monitor say mode not supported  so i got a nother monitor and changed the display for the first monitor setting know useing the monitor that had problems i in thr fist place it works when i log on but not at the logn on screen
[04:33] <richardcavell> vld: some of us still are, mate.  Some of us still are...
[04:33] <pagoda> i'm trying to get wireless to work in jaunty on a dell inspiron e1705 (9400). the guide says to click activate when the hardware drivers window pops up, but i never saw such a window. how else can i get to that? (i'm in windows now)
[04:33] <Guest92063> richardcavell they works well if you have a good one stop the trolling !!!
[04:33] <vld> yup includin me
[04:33] <Cyber_Akuma> 30 min left
[04:33] <Cyber_Akuma> sigh
[04:33] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: im currently on another windows machine
[04:33] <uknow> any reson
[04:34] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: thats a prolem indeed
[04:34] <Guest92063> Roasted simple > /tmp
[04:34] <gmoss> Steve_: well that'd involve adding it to fstab - would that interfere with whatever else is storing the settings?
[04:34] <Steve_> pagoda: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-modaliases
[04:34] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, take at -- http://pastebin.com/f4b4424cb  .. this is how i added metamodes/modelines
[04:34] <richardcavell> Can someone let me remotely view their desktop?  I want to see how well VNC works over the Internet. You don't have to give me control of your desktop.
[04:34] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: i dought a bios not supporting cdrom boot will support us boot
[04:34] <pagoda> will apt-get work without a network connection?
[04:34] <gogeta> usb
[04:34] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: look my friend found this "<gbear14275> so this says the boot option is changeable under bios... the menu isn't just easy to get to"
[04:34] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: yay
[04:34] <bastidrazor> richardcavell, vnc is slow and sluggish regardless of over the internet or on a LAN
[04:34] <Nitrousoxide> gogets:us boot?
[04:34] <gogeta> usb
[04:35] <Steve_> gmoss: no fstab stuff... lets just try to mount it so you see it on your desktop so you can update the settings again
[04:35] <Guest92063> after you will say that we cannot play on linux, I use a guitar for frets on fire and a gamepad and play a lot ... don't be a jerk ...
[04:35] <gogeta> Nitrousoxide: but you said it does support it was just hidden away
[04:35] <richardcavell> bastidrazor: isn't it just bandwidth that slows it down?
[04:35] <uknow> can anyone help me with  Display
[04:35] <bastidrazor> richardcavell, no.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> I find vnc over my gigibit lan rather useable.. with a light enough window mnager
[04:35] <richardcavell> bastidrazor: and in any case, what alternative do you have that is faster?
[04:35] <bucky> rredd4: does it have a firewire port on it?
[04:35] <Ricochet> Hey Guys, I have a question real fast.. I have edited my xorg.conf and added some applications and such.. If I upgrade to 9.04 (I am in 8.10 now) will I lose everything?!
[04:35] <Steve_> pagoda: no ethernet?
[04:35] <bastidrazor> richardcavell, i don't.
[04:35] <pagoda> i really don't want to dig out a cat5 cable
[04:36] <gmoss> Steve_: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 asks for an fstab entry, will go make one and report back, thanks :-)
[04:36] <pagoda> Steve_: is that the only way?
[04:36] <richardcavell> bastidrazor: I let q0_0p view my desktop yesterday. Now I want to view someone's desktop to see how it works
[04:36] <bastidrazor> richardcavell, freeNX possibly?
[04:36] <uknow> does any oone know alot about display problems
[04:36] <Steve_> pagoda: humm or u could use the box u are on now to bring the package over
[04:36] <Steve_> pagoda: good old flash drive er somthing
[04:36] <richardcavell> bastidrazor: Doesn't VNC work by simply getting the X-window server to send the data over the network?
[04:37] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: No, thisquestion first arouse when i tohught it DIDNT have a boot order," Nitrousoxide: but you said it does support it was just hidden away"
[04:37] <vld> can any1 pm to help me with a creative usb headset
[04:37] <vld> hs-1000
[04:37] <richardcavell> bastidrazor: that's the best way to do it, surely
[04:37] <Guest92063> does a non noob linux specialist knows about tv tuner setup here ?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> richardcavell:  vnc can work in several differnt ways dependiong on the vnc server. :)
[04:37] <Nitrousoxide> gogeta: tehn i found out it was hidden
[04:37] <rredd4> bucky not sure
[04:37] <gbear14275> ok... anyone want to try me?  My newest symptom is my back and forward buttons on firefox no longer work
[04:37] <gbear14275> anyone ever seen that before
[04:37] <pagoda> Steve_: it's the same computer, i'm dual-booting. can i download the package with windows, then install it from linux?
[04:37] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: well what about the 'Remote Desktop Viewer' that's built in to Ubuntu?
[04:37] <Steve_> gmoss: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/???/
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Guest92063:  the #mythbuntu guys know a LOT about tv tuners. :)  thers such a varity of them out.. the Mythbuntu forums are also a good place to check
[04:37] <FloridaGuy> bastidrazor, you useing a lcd tv for your monitor
[04:37] <Roasted> guest92063 - I'm confused. what is /tmp? How do I save a video through that? Its a flash video embedded on a web site I want to download. I cant figure out how.
[04:37] <rredd4> bucky  besides, i don't have a firewire cable\
[04:38] <bucky> rredd4: well i googled 10 pages about it and that's all i could come up with... that firewire works better than usb on those
[04:38] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, yes, my 47" tv via SVideo..
[04:38] <rredd4> bucky i will check the manual, ty
[04:38] <Dr_willis> richardcavell:  thats the gnome built in vnc viewer it shows the current desktop.. others like vnc4server and tightvnc do NOT show the current desktop. they work 'faster' for me..  for my needs.
[04:38] <richardcavell> who just tried to connect to my port 5900?
[04:38] <Steve_> pagoda: sounds tricky... i never did it SOMONE else should help ya:
[04:38] <izap> how can i get the bottom panel back on ? i turned it off/deleted it somehow lol
[04:38] <ghindo> Roasted, /tmp is the directory for temporary files in the Linux filesystem.  If you load a flash video, the video should also load in /tmp
[04:38] <Nitrousoxide> goget: my problem is now sloved, thanks
[04:39] <ctmjr> !panel | izap
[04:39] <kyle__> hey....nice to meet you ..
[04:39] <bastidrazor> izap, right click the top panel and new panel
[04:39] <Roasted> ghindo - Let me get this straight... if I watch a video through firefox that's a flash video, it'll somehow "download" temporarily to the /tmp folder??
[04:39] <rredd4> bucky  have to go, ty for your help
[04:39] <ctmjr> !panels | izap
[04:39] <ghindo> Roasted, Correct.
[04:39] <richardcavell> some bugger just port scanned me from here. Who was it?
[04:39] <Roasted> ghindo - what do I have to do? Just play the video and it appears? Cause I'm not seeing it now...
[04:40] <uknow> does any oone know alot about display problems
[04:40] <smacfarl> Hey. I got Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_2.6.28-13.44_i386.deb
[04:40] <smacfarl>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[04:40] <pagoda> Steve_: who would that be?
[04:40] <gmoss> Steve_: got it mounted again, thanks much!
[04:40] <brian> what widget app do you guys like the most
[04:40] <ghindo> Roasted, You have to load the video entirely in the browser and the video _should_ show up in /tmp
[04:40] <Ricochet> Hey Guys, I have a question real fast.. I have edited my xorg.conf and added some applications and such.. If I upgrade to 9.04 (I am in 8.10 now) will I lose everything?!
[04:40] <Roasted> ghindo - just let it buffer completely? Or completely watch it? I'm just confused over how this works...
[04:41] <Steve_> pagoda: humm maby its on the CD... ?  9.04
[04:41] <ghindo> Roasted, Just let it buffer completely
[04:41] <pagoda> Steve_: hmm i don't have a cd. i downloaded it
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Ricochet:  added applications to 'xorg.conf' ? i think theres some confusion going on..
[04:41] <Roasted> ghindo - I'm pretty sure it did buffer completely, becuase this is the 2nd time I'm watching it without having refreshed the web site...
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Ricochet:  xorg.conf defines your video settings and a few other things.. not applications
[04:41] <smacfarl> So why is my update failing?
[04:42] <ghindo> Roasted, Well, what are you seeing in the /tmp directory?
[04:42] <Steve_> pagoda: u dont have a cd..? are you in a VM and mounted an ISO?
[04:42] <Ricochet> Dr_willis: I edited my xorg.conf, and i added some applications such as evtouch and stuff like that.. they were different statements.. sorry for the confusion
[04:42] <Roasted> hsperdata, keyring, orbit, pulse, pulse, seahorse, ssh, virtual-jason, clipboard cache, gnomesystemmonitor, vinagre
[04:42] <Steve_> pagoda: or installed using PXE?
[04:42] <albech> what can it be that cause dnsmasq to not resolve? when doing a NS lookup it return ** server can't find google.com: REFUSED
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Ricochet:  when in doubt backup your xorg.conf i alwyas keep a 'archive' of my old ones.. just in case.
[04:42] <richardcavell> 189.38.80.51 I just port scanned you back.
[04:43] <gmoss> Steve_: and maybe you know off the top of your head why the option "iocharset=utf8" is bad? if you're busy, don't bother, I'll continue googling :-
[04:43] <gmoss> :-)
[04:43] <h_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[04:43] <h_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11
[04:43] <h_> can anyone help me enable rendering
[04:43] <h_> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c
[04:44] <pagoda> Steve_: oh i installed hardy from a CD, then upgraded to intrepid and now jaunty.
[04:44] <Dr_willis> !intel | h_
[04:44] <Roasted> ghindo - did you get that?
[04:44] <Steve_> gmoss: o sorry im in a shitty IRC client is the charset bad?
[04:44] <ghindo> Roasted, Yeah, just gimme a sec
[04:44] <gmoss> Steve_: cyrillic filenames show up as '?', trying to fix this
[04:44] <Roasted> steve - theres kindergarten rules around here. If you dont wanna get banned 40 times over you might wanna say shoot instead :P
[04:44] <Steve_> gmoss: i dont think utf8 is bad.
[04:45] <Steve_> gmoss: bad font?
[04:45] <gmoss> Steve_: no, that's the option that broke the HAL mout
[04:45] <kyle__> do u know how to use kvm ?
[04:46] <gmoss> Steve_: I think I'll just ditch using HAL and go back to fstab, because I know how to get that working. Thanks a bunch for your help :-)
[04:46] <ghindo> Roasted, Try refreshing /tmp and checking again.  I'm loading a YouTube video and it's loading into /tmp as well, so it _should_ be the same in your case
[04:46] <kyle__> i'm using v-box now...
[04:46] <Steve_> gmoss: np
[04:46] <tonsofpcs> got a v4l2 device, scantv is saying there is no tuner on it.  Anyone know how I can get the tuner working?  I have used it in linux before, but not jaunty.  It's a em28xx chipset, connected via usb
[04:46] <brian> anyone got a fav widget app
[04:47] <Roasted> ghindo - I went to youtube and it loads a video in tmp, but this particular web site doesnt show anything in tmp
[04:47] <Dr_willis> brian:  thats just a tad.. vague....
[04:47] <ghindo> Roasted, Interesting.  I'm not sure, then.  Sorry.
[04:47] <Roasted> ghindo - if you want to PM me (no idea how to do simple things in xchat) I can link you to the video Im trying to DL
[04:48] <J_Dahmer> whats up, any fags in the house?
[04:48] <Roasted> ban
[04:48] <richardcavell> J_Dahmer: I reckon someone's going to get banned soon
[04:48] <J_Dahmer> who?
[04:48] <Roasted> ban
[04:49] <J_Dahmer> who's getting banned
[04:49] <Steve_> maby he was trying to say fans
[04:49] <jamiewan> J_Dahmer, you
[04:49] <J_Dahmer> for what?
[04:49] <Steve_> n and g are kinda close on the keyboard
[04:49] <J_Dahmer> Yes they are steve but I meant fags as in cigarettes
[04:49] <jamiewan> J_Dahmer,  fags or fans one is not acceptable
[04:50] <ctmjr> Roasted: some sites like hulu and cbs and such do not use your tmp dir because  people figured out how to copy the shows and they do not like that
[04:50] <Roasted> if nobody bans him for his language, at least ban him for being a dumbass
[04:50] <vld> uh thats the first time i heard that term here in the us
[04:50] <richardcavell> you name yourself after a serial killer of homosexuals and then ask if there are any 'fags' here
[04:50] <J_Dahmer> you're a jerk jamiewan
[04:50] <Ricochet> i sure hope this doesnt destroy all of the hard work i just did
[04:50] <jamiewan> J_Dahmer, yeah yeah and you too
[04:50] <Roasted> ctmjr - MAN. Thats upsetting. I've been fighting to download this video. It's a live concert video and I really want it. :(
[04:50] <vld> but i kinda like that name :D
[04:50] <J_Dahmer> stop whinning roasted
[04:50] <J_Dahmer> fag
[04:50] <richardcavell> I reckon he's got one more troll left in him before he gets banned
[04:51] <Roasted> go eat a children's leg dahmer
[04:51] <richardcavell> that's gonna do it I reckon
[04:51] <J_Dahmer> I prefer black meat
[04:51] <Roasted> yeah you would
[04:51] <sebsebseb> richardcavell: I think they need to be called this time
[04:51] <Roasted> black man meat
[04:51] <sebsebseb> richardcavell: or nothing will happen
[04:51] <Steve_> i like stake
[04:51] <sebsebseb> richardcavell: anytime soon
[04:51] <Dr_willis> !ohmy
[04:51] <J_Dahmer> richardcavell, ever wondered what a penis tastes like?
[04:51] <ctmjr> !o4o | J_Dahmer
[04:51] <sebsebseb> !ops |  J_Dahmer
[04:52] <J_Dahmer> huh
[04:52] <duane1> hi all
[04:52] <sebsebseb> problem solved
[04:52] <trelayne> hi all, I'm running Jaunty and trying out 2.6.30RC1. But my wireless' driver needs to be recompile. I understand that all I have to do is install bcmwl-kernel-source.. but's it's not in the Jaunty repos?
[04:53] <kyle__> ubuntu how to apt mysql gui deb
[04:53] <kyle__> who can help me
[04:53] <duane1> does anyone know if there is any way to point virtualbox to a hard drive that has xp already installed
[04:53] <Steve_> dmsg-reconfigure bcmwl-.....
[04:53] <samtihen>  duane1: pretty sure that doesn't work
[04:53] <samtihen> sorry man
[04:53] <Dr_willis> duane1:  its doable.. but from what i hear dangerous to the  data integerity of the drive.. check the vbox docs. i THINK its in there..
[04:53] <duane1> ok
[04:53] <richardcavell> duane1: no, it's not possible
[04:53] <obf213> did anyone elses vlc / x11 video break recently?
[04:54] <Steve_> trelayne: dmsg-reconfigure bcmwl-.....
[04:54] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: he can't do it because it's installed on his hardware rather than the virtual hardware
[04:54] <trelayne> thanks Steve..
[04:54] <Dr_willis> richardcavell:  i recall the docs mentioning how you can makually make a config file that does all ow you do do it.
[04:54] <Steve_> trelayne: o dont thank me unless it works
[04:54] <Dr_willis> richardcavell:  theres also big warnings saying to NOT do it. :)
[04:54] <Steve_> trelayne: while crazy guess
[04:54] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: I bet there are
[04:55] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: you can teach it to read and write the volume raw (as in, access the drive filesystem rather than a virtual hard disk)
[04:55] <samtihen> Dr_willis: ya, i think its a serious special case thing that :sorta: works
[04:55] <duane1> thanks... I would of been up all night if I thought I could get it
[04:55] <trelayne> Steve_,  hmmm   I don't see such at command ?
[04:55] <meglo> hahahaha, sebsebseb I have !ops on highlight it is always worth it
[04:55] <Dr_willis> duane1:  you could 'image' the hard drive to a virtual drive file  (sort of copy it) and let vbox play with it.. but that may trigger the windows copy protection stuff also.
[04:55] <meglo> oh siht
[04:55] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: yep, that's right
[04:55] <jamiewan> took barbs falcon to mechanic and got sick of waiting round
[04:55] <trelayne> Steve_, dmsg-reconfigure
[04:55] <kyle__> oh...i think i can get
[04:55] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: he'll have to re-register it.  But that's not fatal.
[04:55] <kyle__> sudo apt-get install mysql-gui-tools-common
[04:56] <jamiewan> sorry wrong window guys
[04:56] <kyle__> this one ?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> duane1:  lets just say its not trivial. and can cause issues..
[04:56] <Dr_willis> richardcavell:  unless its an OEM version from gateway/dell/whoever. :)
[04:56] <duane1> I'll just do it the right way
[04:56] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: he's better off just reinstalling it
[04:56] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: won't take him more than one day
[04:57] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: but trying to turn his existing installation into a virtual machine will take him a week
[04:57] <Dr_willis> richardcavell:   depends on the apps. :)
[04:57] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: with a VM you can have one VM per app
[04:57] <Steven_M> hi all :)
[04:57] <richardcavell> Dr_willis: I used to have one per Steam game
[04:58] <trelayne> I figured to recompile the driver I would need to get the source located in Karmic, but not sure how to add Karmic to the repos
[04:58] <dravekx> How do I install the latest version of firefox in ubuntu desktop 9.04?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> !ff35 | dravekx
[04:58] <Steve_> trelayne: o sorry dpkg-reconfigure
[04:58] <duane1> I lost the install disk years ago... just grabbed hard drive out of  the basement to put fedora on and thought about virtualbox
[04:58] <jareep> Anyone willing to help me troubleshoot installation of nvidia video drivers?  (Or rolling back to the pre-screw-up? lol)?  I'm running Jaunty on an AMD64 laptop
[04:58] <dravekx> ty dr.willis :)
[04:59] <albech> can anyone tell me what is causing these errors? Last of IPv6 support on the kernel or in the libc? http://nopaste.com/p/as34uCoxg
[04:59] <FrozenFire> What's the most commonly used packet sniffer for Ubuntu? I'm trying to diagnose a problem with AJAX uploads to Panoramio.com, in which they seem to be timing out. I want to see if my ISP is sending me RST packets, because the connections "look" like torrenting uploads.
[04:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Any idea why my HDD keeps locking up when trying to move this partition? I literally have to turn the usb dock off and on again to get it to work again.
[04:59] <FrozenFire> I'm most familiar with Ethereal for Windows
[05:00] <albech> sorry wrong channel
[05:00] <utimothy> how to get evolution mail with hot mail ......hi to the room
[05:00] <toni_> thro r u there
[05:01] <duane1> FrozenFire: I'd use tcpdump or better on the eyes wireshark
[05:01] <FrozenFire> Ah, yes. I had forgotten about Wireshark
[05:01] <FrozenFire> Thanks duane1
[05:01] <duane1> frozenfire: no sweat
[05:02] <richardcavell> who's scanning me?
[05:02] <trelayne> Steve_, thanks for the suggestion but I don't know that dpkg-reconfigure would recompile the package against the loaded kernel?
[05:02] <kyle__> XChat is powerful
[05:02] <jareep> additional info: I downloaded and installed the latest from nvidia but when the machine reboots I get a console login and Xorg.0.log says "module couldn't be opened".
[05:03] <Steve_> trelayne: well i guess you could try and remove the bcmwl-* packages, reset then add them back
[05:03] <Steven_M> does ubuntu 9.04 support ATI graphics cards?
[05:03] <bastidrazor> jareep, did you install the driver while X was stopped?
[05:03] <richardcavell> Steven_M: yes
[05:03] <jareep> bastid_razor:  Yes.  It gives an error otherwise.
[05:03] <kyle__> Steven_M> does ubuntu 9.04 support ATI graphics cards?yes
[05:04] <kyle__> my mainboard is amd64 and i can open the 3Ds
[05:04] <Steve_> trelayne: or maby check your blacklist
[05:04] <utimothy> can some one help me.....how can i get hotmail to work with evolution mail
[05:05] <bastidrazor> jareep, what module isn't opening?
[05:05] <jareep> bastid_razor: nvidia
[05:05] <kyle__> hotmail ....there's examples on google...you may hava a look..
[05:05] <trelayne> Steve_, I actually want to try the solution posted by Amaranth: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1147055&page=2
[05:05] <jareep> bastid_razor:  Specifially the log file says:  "Failed to load module "nvidia")  module does not exist, 0
[05:05] <trelayne> But it means adding the Karmic Koala repos to synaptic's list which I'm not sure how to do
[05:05] <Steven_M> richardcavell: 3D acceleration as well?
[05:06] <kyle__> google is powerful...
[05:06] <bastidrazor> jareep, what version of ubuntu?
[05:06] <jareep> bastid_razor:  9.04
[05:06] <Steve_> trelayne: ok cool... ya i guess i shouda asked what you wirless card was first :P
[05:06] <kyle__> i think it's just so so.....but wonderful
[05:06] <bastidrazor> jareep, doesn't the restricted drivers work well enough?
[05:06] <gbear14275> can anyone tell me what .fr-ISOMOD is?  I can't find anything on google and its showing up in my home directory as a half a gig file according to disk usage analyzer
[05:07] <gbear14275> might be .fr-|somod... not sure
[05:07] <jareep> bastid_razor:  They did but I was having trouble with a game and was told by a friend that the lastest nvidia drivers worked better and corrected his lockup issues.  I installed them, and now I'm GUI-less.
[05:08] <vld> how can i install a usb headset that only has xp or vista drivers?
[05:08] <Steve_> vld: just plug it in
[05:08] <vld> i wish
[05:08] <kyle__> maybe you can try to mount it.
[05:08] <vld> its a fatality hs-1000
[05:08] <vld> and im running backtrack
[05:08] <gbear14275> no one?
[05:09] <Steve_> vld: dmesg give anything?
[05:09] <footmarks> fqk
[05:09] <gbear14275> .fr-Isomod
[05:09] <vld> dmesg>?
[05:09] <footmarks> 无聊
[05:09] <vld> 99% noob btw
[05:09] <footmarks> 怎么才能让QQ有声音？
[05:10] <Steve_> vld: humm nm then good luck
[05:10] <gbear14275> nvm... thanks
[05:10] <stacy> hey can anyone help me with the installation of the new Ubuntu... on one of my computers it seems the computer freezes and shows a very distorted and pixelated Ubuntu icon on the screen after it tries to run Ubiquity from the live CD. It is not the CD as I have used this Cd to install on two other computers. I have tried safe graphics mode also... does anyone know what may be causing this?
[05:10] <vld> kk
[05:10] <vld> google here i come
[05:10] <Steve_> stacy: bad video ram?
[05:11] <stacy> Im currently talking to you from said computer
[05:11] <Steve_> stacy: dose windows run correctly with the vido drivers installed?
[05:11] <stacy> umm this is a linux only computer
[05:11] <supergear> what vid card?
[05:11] <stacy> this is an older version of ubuntu... umm NVIDIA 4300
[05:12] <supergear> 4300?
[05:12] <supergear> onboard i guess
[05:12] <stacy> nope... its a separate card
[05:12] <alkasmolik> i updated to firefox 3.5 and now i am not sure if subpixel smoothing is working or not. i've tried googling for a fix, tried it out, and no go. Anyone have any suggestions, aside from reverting back to 3.0 ?
[05:12] <Steven_M> does ubuntu 9.04 support 3D acceleration using ATI graphics cards?
[05:12] <Steve_> stacy: what haponed in safe graphic mode?
[05:13] <stacy> same exact thing
[05:13] <supergear> oh MX
[05:13] <supergear> MX 4300
[05:13] <stacy> a very pixelated image
[05:13] <supergear> i frgot about the MX series
[05:13] <lwells> I installed gcursor, but it will not let me change the cursors, is there something else I need to do?
[05:13] <bucky> Steven_M: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Proprietary-Driver-for-Ubuntu-9.04-Fglrx-for-X-Server-1.6
[05:13] <Steve_> stacy: like blocks
[05:13] <supergear> using the correct nvidia drivers, stacy?
[05:14] <flanders> Well, the gksudo took care of one problem, but the other problem is that I suck at life, and specifically writing even the simplest of scripts: http://pastebin.com/d2c8a52d3
[05:14] <stacy> well this is before installation
[05:14] <kholerabbi> hello the command "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" doesn't work for me. I am using Jaunty and I get the error "sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh: command not found
[05:14] <kholerabbi> "
[05:14] <Steve_> stacy: anything that looks like http://www.playtool.com/pages/artifacts/artifacts.html
[05:14] <stacy> and ive never had a problem installing the old version of linux when I installed it
[05:14] <jareep> bastid_razor:  How do you reinstall the restricted drivers from the command line?
[05:14] <kholerabbi> I would liek to play encrypted dvds
[05:14] <flanders> What is wrong about my script? It's supposed to toggle between removing and adding two modules, depending on whether or not they are already loaded.
[05:14] <dayofswords> question i installed ubuntu through wubi, and it all went well, all works, but i went to disk analyzer and it said the capacity was ~40gb and i had 11gb available , in wubi i choose 5gb max space and i only have a 20gb hard drive
[05:14] <supergear> old version of linux?
[05:15] <supergear> old kernel?
[05:15] <Steve_> stacy: also you should probably try one of the newer CD s
[05:15] <supergear> linux == kernel ;P
[05:15] <stacy> none of those match...
[05:15] <stacy> ive got a fresh copy of the most recent release
[05:15] <supergear> ubuntu does not = linux :P
[05:15] <jamiewan> kholerabbi: vlc player
[05:16] <kholerabbi> jamiewan: I just want to use libdvdcss like the help says. Can you help?
[05:16] <kyle__> i'm installing mysql-gui-tools now..........
[05:16] <r3l1c> dude Karmic screams
[05:16] <alkasmolik> anyone have a solution to my firefox 3.5 subpixel smoothing issue?
[05:16] <supergear> libdvdcss is illegal in most places ain't it
[05:16] <stacy> ok on boot, when it finishes booting its like a very pixelated and scrambled ubuntu icon... almost looking like the boot splash screen
[05:16] <Guest40885> hi someone know how to install well frets on fire on ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS ???
[05:17] <bastidrazor> jareep, pastebin your xorg.conf ... apt-get install pastebinit then pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ..
[05:17] <jamiewan> kholerabbi: dunno but vlc player seems to have sorted most of my vid problems playing dvds
[05:17] <flanders> Here is my simple script in bash, again. I want it to toggle between removing/adding modules, depending on whether or not they are already loaded. However, I think my syntax is crappy: http://pastebin.com/d2c8a52d3
[05:17] <dayofswords> question: i installed ubuntu through wubi, and it all went well, all works, but i went to disk analyzer and it said the capacity was ~40gb and i had 11gb available , in wubi i choose 5gb max space and i only have a 20gb hard drive
[05:17] <dayofswords> whats with that?
[05:17] <Cyber_Akuma> My harddrive keeps locking up :(
[05:18] <uknow> does any oone know alot about display problems
[05:18] <Steve_> stacy: try http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[05:18] <gbear14275> how would i delete the contents of a folder without deleting the folder itself?
[05:18] <supergear> Cyber_Akuma: time to buy a new HDD
[05:18] <flanders> It gives me errors messages about grep: =: no such file or directory ?
[05:18] <kholerabbi> jamiewan: thanks, but I'll try this first :D
[05:18] <r3l1c> My cpu was running at 100% and I couldn't find any processes using that much anywhere. Not in top or system monitor
[05:18] <Cyber_Akuma> I think its a glitch with linux accessing a hdd through usb
[05:18] <Cyber_Akuma> others seem th have the same problem
[05:18] <Cyber_Akuma> all of them usb
[05:18] <jamiewan> gbear14275: open folder select all and delete
[05:18] <gbear14275> rm -r would delete the folder as well wouldn't it
[05:18] <gbear14275> cli...
[05:19] <stacy> so try version that is not a live CD
[05:19] <stacy> ?
[05:19] <Steve_> stacy: yes maby after installing it then it will work?
[05:19] <AussieGuy> will this setup give me internet on my pc (all ethernet)?  adsl2 modem------linksys spa3102 voip router-----pc
[05:19] <stacy> ok ill try thanks
[05:19] <dragon_> r3l1c: try `sudo top` instead...
[05:19] <Steve_> stacy: or you could try the latest build
[05:19] <stacy> thats what I am trying to install Steve
[05:19] <supergear> stacy: try a different linux distro liveCD/DVD
[05:19] <r3l1c> yeah sorry I did it. nothing
[05:19] <Guest40885> frets on fire error adress areleady use in songs and tutoriel place ...
[05:19] <stacy> Knoppix works
[05:20] <bastidrazor> jareep, you could change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa to get a working GUI.. then reinstall the drivers
[05:20] <kyle__> 有中国的兄弟吗。
[05:20] <AussieGuy> the voip router has a lan port to connect to the pc and a wan port to connect to the modem, not sure if that means it will send internet access to the pc or not
[05:20] <stacy> thought of that one... its just on the install CDs for ubuntu right after it tries to load Ubiquity
[05:20] <r3l1c> dragon_:  here is one. I installed Karmic, just to test a little.. It over wrote grub 1.5 with 1.98 (i think) and my 9.04 boot options are not on the login.
[05:21] <r3l1c> not in the boot loader menu
[05:21] <stacy> actually if I go to ctrlalt F1 after the error happens... it still shows the load screen stuck at ubiquity with now "OK" status on it
[05:21] <supergear> kyle__: english please not asian stuf most ppl can't read
[05:21] <h_> still having trouble enabling rendering
[05:21] <r3l1c> nevermind just remembered
[05:21] <stacy> or any status what so ever
[05:21] <jareep> bastid_razor:  http://pastebinit.com/f58ea2255
[05:21] <dragon_> r3l1c: is there an option to chainload into grub 1.5?
[05:21] <Steve_> stacy: perhaps the latest build http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20090719/
[05:21] <stacy> anyways ill try and load up on the alt
[05:21] <Cyber_Akuma> "sd 9:0:0:0: [sdb] Add. Sense: No additional sense information" "Sense Key : No Sense [current] " <----- I keep getting these over and over in dmesg, any idea whats wrong?
[05:21] <r3l1c> didn't see one I will reboot after this update is finished..
[05:21] <r3l1c> thanks,
[05:22] <trelayne> Steve_, just to let you know: mission accomplished, simply had to add karmic repos, and installed the package -- which did a dkms install of the driver so that it recompiles against the running kernel--i think ?
[05:22] <dragon_> r3l1c: no problem. btw, folks in #ubuntu+1 will be able to answer karmic-related questions better.
[05:22] <Guest40885> hey noobs
[05:22] <h_> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[05:22] <h_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11
[05:22] <Guest40885> need help here
[05:22] <dragon_> !language | Guest40885
[05:22] <r3l1c> dragon_:  thanks
[05:23] <ILMAN8> hello
[05:23] <h_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[05:23] <bastidrazor> jareep, that isn't a valid url..
[05:23] <jareep> yea, I noticed...
[05:23] <ILMAN8> i want to set-up the compiz configuration..
[05:23] <jareep> I had to type it manually
[05:23] <supergear> !Guest
[05:23] <jareep> apparently, I didn't get it right
[05:23] <ILMAN8> !compiz
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Akuma:  try unplugging any extra usb gizmos you may have plugged in.  I recall seeing that on a friends pc once.  i forget what he had that was goofing it up. and thats all i know on the topic. :(
[05:23] <Steve_> trelayne: cool, ya i have them karmic repos in my box already so that couda bin the problm
[05:23] <supergear> pp should have a nick of their own!
[05:23] <Guest40885> need help for frets on fire !!!
[05:23] <Steven_M> bucky: thanks :)
[05:23] <Steve_> trelayne: good job
[05:23] <bucky> yup
[05:23] <Cyber_Akuma> I dont have any other usb device plugged in
[05:23] <ILMAN8> i want to set-up the compiz configuration..
[05:23] <supergear> !slackware
[05:24] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, other than wifi
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Akuma:  this a laptop? could be somthing built in.
[05:24] <dragon_> !botabuse > supergear
[05:24] <Cyber_Akuma> but thats wired internally, i cant upl;ug it
[05:24] <ILMAN8> i want to set-up the compiz configuration..!
[05:24] <Cyber_Akuma> yes
[05:24] <Ross1> Anyone know why the Consolas font spacing gets screwed up when you try to use it in the terminal?
[05:24] <flanders> Can someone correct my pathetic script?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Cyber_Akuma:  multi-reader card slots?
[05:24] <Guest40885> hey noobs I need help here are you blinds ???
[05:24] <flanders> It's only a few lines of code.
[05:24] <dragon_> Guest40885: please behave.
[05:24] <supergear> i used the bot twice that isn't bot abuse
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Guest40885:  state the problem clearly to the channel.
[05:24] <ILMAN8> can some one help me configure the Compiz ?
[05:24] <bastidrazor> !ccsm > ILMAN8
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ILMAN8:   tell the channel the exact problem - is a good idea.
[05:25] <trelayne> Steve_, well jsut came back to thank you for your help. I've been fighting to figure out why compiz freezes my Xserver ... been dragging on for weeks. So wanted to try a later kernel... too many hoops :-(
[05:25] <ILMAN8> i install it
[05:25] <ILMAN8> and run it
[05:25] <dragon_> supergear: using bot in a PM would still be a better idea.
[05:25] <bastidrazor> jareep, you could try changing the driver to vesa and see if that'll get your GUI back
[05:25] <Ross1> anyone use consolas as their terminal font?
[05:25] <Steve_> trelayne: what video card?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ILMAN8:  'it' being what exactly? Compiuz is included by default on ubuntu.
[05:25] <ILMAN8> now i want to use the box mode , and other ...
[05:25] <uman> hi. This is not a troll it's a serious question: can anyone tell me what advantages ubuntu has over debian, besides user-friendliness?
[05:26] <trelayne> Steve_, nvida Quadro FX 770m
[05:26] <uman> trying to settle on a distro, but Debian is user-friendly enough for me so that's a non-issue
[05:26] <ILMAN8> uman: support
[05:26] <Dr_willis> ILMAN8:  normally one installs the 'ccsm' tool to allot for fancier configuration of compiz. thers also the #compiz channel.
[05:26] <zenlunatic> ILMAN8: did you install compiz config settings manager?
[05:26] <Guest40885> I need to setup frets on fire on ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS x64 my guitar work perfectly with kcontrol but the game can't be played cause it said adress arealeady used
[05:26] <Dr_willis> uman:  polish and polish.. and   this awsome channel. :)
[05:26] <Guest40885> in songs and tutorial mode
[05:26] <durt> uman, it's alittle more cutting edge (newer versions of kernel, xorg, gnome etc.)
[05:26] <ILMAN8> no
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !cube | ILMAN8
[05:27] <Guest40885> I tried also on wine without luck cause of the resolution ...
[05:27] <uman> Dr_willis: heh, I saw someone in another channel say "#ubuntu is useless.. ask in #debian and take the risk of getting flamed for using ubuntu"
[05:27] <zenlunatic> ILMAN8: well do so :)
[05:27] <uman> I guess some wars will never be settled
[05:27] <trelayne> Steve_,  I've even tried updating to the latest 185.18.14 but the problem comes back.. the freeze happens, It allows me to  swicth to console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)  after about 20 seconds then I can switch back and recover, but subsequent freezes results in corrupted windows when swithing back
[05:27] <uman> durt: newer than debian testing, or newer than debian stable?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> uman:  the debian people would rather stay with their 'high' moral/ethics then make somthing thats 'useable' i guess...
[05:28] <flanders> In bash, is this the proper way to check the value of an if-then condition? if lsmod | grep uhci_mod = /dev/null; then echo "mod not loaded"
[05:28] <Dr_willis> uman:  this is linux. use what you like.. everyone wants to 'bash' the big popular disrtos.. so do what you want. try  them all.
[05:28] <dragon_> Guest40885: how did you install "frets on fire"?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> flanders:  check the 'advanced bash scripting guide' for examples of that sort of construct.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> !abs | flanders
[05:29] <jareep> bastid_razor: http://pastebin.com/f3d227b15  (changed nvidia to vesa to test)
[05:29] <durt> uman, well stable of course, and (at some times) testing.
[05:29] <Guest40885> by the ubuntu repositories and I tried the windows version on wine also
[05:29] <uman> does ubuntu use a normally branded firefox?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> uman:  yes it does.
[05:29] <uman> I hate "iceweasel"
[05:29] <Steve_> trelayne: i would try and install the latest build
[05:29] <bastidrazor> jareep, did you try to start X with the vesa driver?
[05:29] <flanders> Okay.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> uman:  good example of debians 'code of ethics' being in the way of 'using the product'
[05:29] <Steve_> trelayne: like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20090719/
[05:30] <jamiewan> Dragon_thats a bad game, big delay with me and virtually unusable, but very funny
[05:30] <jareep> bastid_razor:  Trying now
[05:30] <dragon_> Guest40885: Windows version is unlikely to run. Regarding the one you installed from the repos, what's the error message?
[05:30] <uman> the only thing about ubuntu is it seems very closely tied to GNOME, which I never use
[05:30] <trelayne> Steve_,  anyway never mind about it, I'll see if the problem manifests tomorrow at work again. I've become dependant on compiz workspace switching, effects, etc . On the build, Hmmm.. tempting but I'm much too cautious to try it :-)  But thanks for the link!
[05:31] <Guest40885> adress areleay in use
[05:31] <Dr_willis> uman:  gnome works very well for most people.. thers kde4 if you want.. or other window manager/desktops..  this is still Linux. Use what you want.
[05:31] <sensae> I'm using raw disk access in virtualbox, and for some reason it won't boot - it acts as though the MBR is missing.
[05:31] <losher> uman: kubuntu isn't. What *do* you use?
[05:31] <Steve_> trelayne: lol ya good luke
[05:31] <Guest40885> the windows version is on an unnapropriate resolution ...
[05:31] <P_Kable> Hello, my flash drive has a weird behavior: I cannot mount it like I used to, when I plug it it wont mount but if I leave it plugged and reboot the system it is mounted, then if I unplug it and replug it, it doesn't mount.Who knows what is it about ???
[05:31] <uman> losher: xmonad
[05:31] <uman> Dr_willis: Yeah, I
[05:31] <Dr_willis> !info xmonad
[05:31] <uman> will use what I want :)
[05:31] <trelayne> thanks for your help Steve_ ,  have a good evening/morning
[05:31] <dayofswords> question i installed ubuntu through wubi, and it all went well, all works, but i went to disk analyzer and it said the capacity was ~40gb and i had 11gb available , in wubi i choose 5gb max space and i only have a 20gb hard drive
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I think xmonad is in the repos :)
[05:31] <dragon_> Guest40885: do you see that error in a dialog box? can you try running the game from a terminal?
[05:32] <uman> nice
[05:32] <losher> uman: never heard of it. But I use fvwm with no other desktop nonsense. There's nothing compulsory about gnome....
[05:32] <uman> ubuntu probably has better repos than debian, correct me if Im wrong
[05:32] <dustin_> How do I go about running scripts?
[05:32] <uman> I doubt PlayOnLinux is packaged in debian repos
[05:32] <uman> dustin_: what sort of script?
[05:32] <dustin_> It's to configure guitar pro for wine
[05:32] <dustin_> and on the howto it gives a script
[05:33] <uman> dustin_: try "cd <directory containing script> && ./<name_of_script>"
[05:33] <Guest40885> in the terminal ????????????
[05:33] <durt> uman, it's accurate to think of ubuntu as debian with a 6 month release cycle. Universe (repo) comes straight from debian.
[05:33] <dragon_> Guest40885: Yes.
[05:33] <uman> but it's impossible to be sure if that's what you're looking for without you beng more specific
[05:33] <dustin_> uman: it's just posted on this website
[05:33] <dustin_> so.
[05:33] <uman> dustin_: link?
[05:33] <uman> durt: I see
[05:34] <dragon_> Guest40885: I suppose you'll type fretsonfire and hit enter
[05:34] <Guest40885> !paste
[05:34] <dustin_> uman: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3782
[05:34] <Guest40885> http://paste.ubuntu.com/222391/
[05:34] <dustin_> scroll down for a bit on the instructions to setup
[05:34] <Guest40885> take that output to check
[05:35] <jareep> bastid_razor:  Wow...that driver really screwed things up on my system.  I had to reinstall xorg completely.  I'm back up using vesa.
[05:35] <uman> dustin_: yes, just copy that into a file, name it wherever you like and put it in whatever directory
[05:36] <dustin_> ok
[05:36] <uman> dustin_: use chmod to ensure it is executable
[05:36] <uman> then just cd to the directory you put it in and do ./name_of_script
[05:36] <bastidrazor> jareep, the latest drivers aren't always the best route to go. you should be able to reinstall the restricted drivers now
[05:36] <dragon_> Guest40885: Congratulations! You've found a new bug!!
[05:36] <Guest40885> dragon_ ???
[05:36] <dragon_> !bug | Guest40885
[05:36] <jareep> bastid_razor:  Yea, I'm doing that now.  Thanks for the help.
[05:37] <Guest40885> no way I don't report bugs
[05:37] <uman> dustin_: do you know how to use chmod?
[05:37] <bastidrazor> jareep, vesa is the default driver.. in the future it is good to remember. you can always get a GUI back with vesa
[05:37] <uman> Guest40885: so you prefer freeloading?
[05:37] <dravekx> so FF3.5 cant be installed in ubuntu? Im totally confused.
[05:37] <bastidrazor> jareep, good luck
[05:37] <P_Kable> My flash drive has a weird behavior: I cannot mount it like it used to, when I plug it it wont mount but if I leave it plugged and reboot the system it is mounted, then if I unplug it and replug it it doesn't mount
[05:37] <R0ncoToke> dravekx, Im running FF3.5
[05:37] <Steve_> my bugs never get fixed
[05:38] <Steve_> even when i give a patch
[05:38] <Guest40885> I prefer a working game than reporting silly bugs
[05:38] <uman> dravekx: why do you say that?
[05:38] <SnakDoc> !ff3.5 | dravekx
[05:38] <SnakDoc> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 in other words
[05:39] <dragon_> Guest40885: If you report it, it will be fixed in a little time and your game will start working.
[05:39] <R0ncoToke> dravekx, apt-get firefox-3.5
[05:39] <NetLarIrvine> I messed up my system, I accidently removed my /usr/share/icons folder
[05:39] <NetLarIrvine> How can I get that bad
[05:39] <NetLarIrvine> Backj
[05:40] <dragon_> !enter | NetLarIrvine
[05:40] <NetLarIrvine> Is that icon folder going to be on the live cd disk?
[05:40] <Steve_> show of hands.... How many people think (pcspkr) should be blacklisted?
[05:40] <Guest40885> dragon_ I won't wait can you tell me who program it cause he need to seed my bare hands struck his head a little ...
[05:40] <Guest40885> see
[05:41] <uman> Guest40885: feel free to fork it if you think you can do better
[05:41] <dravekx> anyone have a n00b website where I can read Ubuntu/Linux for dummies?
[05:41] <NetLarIrvine> so is that folder somewhere on the live cd?
[05:41] <dravekx> lol
[05:41] <uman> Guest40885: remember that virtually all free software is written almost completely by volunteers in their free time.
[05:41] <uman> The only exception that comes to mind is OpenOffice
[05:42] <dragon_> uman +1
[05:42] <Dr_willis> !training | dravekx
[05:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> Is there a command that will let me restart all networking?
[05:42] <R0ncoToke> Once i boot up Jaunty it takes 5-10 minutes for the Network Manager to start up automatically, i just run /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start and it starts without any problem. Any one know why this is happening ?
[05:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> Or maybe just restarting Network Manager would work, I dunno...
[05:42] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm using 9.04.
[05:42] <Steve_> ThatGuyOverThere: sudo reboot
[05:42] <durt> NetLarIrvine, best bet would be to open synaptic search for what packages provided the icon sets you use and reinstall them
[05:43] <dragon_> ThatGuyOverThere: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:43] <dragon_> ThatGuyOverThere: sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[05:43] <R0ncoToke> ThatGuyOverThere, /etc/init,d/NetworkManager restart
[05:43] <NetLarIrvine> durt: it is just that whole folder
[05:43] <ThatGuyOverThere> Thanks. I saw that for some older Ubuntu versions and wondered if the same applied to 9.04.
[05:43] <dravekx> I just installed ff3.5, but it still says ff3.0.11 :(
[05:44] <R0ncoToke> NetLarIrvine, Install a new icon set.
[05:44] <dravekx> do I hafta restart ubuntu?
[05:44] <NetLarIrvine> Well It will not let me get online, I have to get the file off the disk
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  reread what the BOT SAID
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !ff35 | dravekx
[05:44] <durt> NetLarIrvine, but many packages put files into it.
[05:44] <R0ncoToke> dravekx, See if you have something called Shiretoko web browser
[05:44] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  it does not replace the 3.0.11 it has its own icon/name
[05:44] <SnakDoc> dravekx its named  Shiretoko
[05:45] <dravekx> ohhhh
[05:45] <NetLarIrvine> oh well I am screwed I guess
[05:45] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  and yes.. its supposed to not replace it.. :)
[05:45] <dravekx> thanks guys! :)
[05:45] <ThatGuyOverThere> Anyway, does anybody have any experience with Ubuntu on the PS3? 'Cause that's the machine I can't seem to get networking to work on. :/
[05:45] <Dr_willis> ThatGuyOverThere:  i know theres specific web sites that cover it.. and thats ablut all i know on the topic. :()
[05:46] <ThatGuyOverThere> I tried looking on the IRC channel list for a PS3 specific channel, but I guess there isn't one. :/
[05:46] <p8n> hi
[05:46] <ThatGuyOverThere> I guess I'll look on PSUbuntu's website.
[05:46] <p8n> need help disabling a device?
[05:46] <dragon_> !ask | p8n
[05:46] <losher> NetLarIrvine: trouble is, every app that uses icons installs their own into /usr/share/icons, so there's no easy way to repopulate it, unless you want to reinstall everything you've ever installed over again. Nasty business....
[05:46] <Guest40885> ThatGuyOverThere try wicd
[05:47] <p8n> well my laptop has a touchstick and touchpad, and the touchstick is messed up, and i was wondering if/how i could disable just the stick.
[05:47] <NetLarIrvine> iosher: your right, just starting over
[05:47] <dragon_> NetLarIrvine: try `sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-icon-theme`
[05:47] <ThatGuyOverThere> So about wicd, does it support KDE?
[05:48] <ThatGuyOverThere> I'm thinking of switching to Kubuntu.
[05:48] <ThatBoogieman> So Gnome / Run Xclient script for my Ubuntu 8.04 isn't booting up properly.  After logging in, that tan/brown background color comes up, then my mouse, then a white/gray box in the upper left corner of the screen.  Nothing happens after that.  I'm stuck using KDE/4 and I don't enjoy it at all.
[05:48] <NetLarIrvine> dragon_:network connection does not work too
[05:48] <dragon_> NetLarIrvine: because of that icon folder? i missed some of the messages..
[05:49] <Dr_willis> ThatBoogieman:  wicd should work in kde also.
[05:49] <NetLarIrvine> Yes, seems that when that folder is deleted, some things will not work
[05:49] <Steve_> ThatBoogieman: come on KDE is not to bad.. once you remove all the widgets
[05:49] <R0ncoToke> ThatBoogieman, Did you try configure any thing related to display ?
[05:49] <p8n> does anyone have an idea?
[05:49] <dravekx> how do I make shiretoko the default browser?
[05:49] <NetLarIrvine> I learned lesson, know now I need to be more careful
[05:50] <Henry5> testing
[05:50] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  i would suggest you just dont...  its not as fully tested as 3.0.11
[05:50] <Henry5> hello every one
[05:50] <Henry5> :)
[05:50] <ThatGuyOverThere> 'Sup.
[05:50] <p8n> it a pvp pkri or ?
[05:50] <losher> NetLarIrvine: might as well install from scratch I suppose....
[05:51] <Henry5> Dear Ubuntu friends
[05:51] <ThatBoogieman> R0ncoToke: I recently had my tower connected to a Vizio HDTV and had hardcore overscan - another problem for another time - and now have it hooked up to a regular monitor.  Though I haven't configured anything manually between the switch.
[05:51] <dragon_> !test | Henry5
[05:51] <Henry5> may I know, is there have any sftp client in UBuntu?
[05:51] <dragon_> !sftp | Henry5
[05:52] <R0ncoToke> Henry5, Google is a good friend.
[05:52] <Henry5> is sftp is a shh?
[05:52] <NetLarIrvine> iosher: now I know what they mean do backups first
[05:52] <dragon_> Henry5: SFTP is natively supported in Linux. In Gnome, go to Places > Connect to Server...
[05:52] <Henry5> I googling already
[05:52] <dragon_> !google | R0ncoToke
[05:52] <Henry5> but I still confuse
[05:52] <alteregoa> [Google] No results found for: | R0ncoToke.
[05:52] <losher> Henry5: there is, it's called sftp, and it's in the package named openssh-client.
[05:52] <Henry5> There have Openssh and Openssl
[05:53] <Henry5> what is Openssl and what is OpenSsh?
[05:53] <dragon_> Henry5: don't have to worry about those packages. They are installed by default.
[05:54] <Henry5> really?
[05:54] <Henry5> the server given
[05:54] <Henry5> 1.
[05:54] <losher> dragon_: openssh isn't installed by default, at least, not in 8.04....
[05:54] <dragon_> losher: openssh-client was installed by default. I'll confirm in a sec.
[05:54] <Henry5> url to make sftp with server, 2. the username, 3. Password NO password required, 4 A public file
[05:55] <Henry5> I tried using the winscp and filezilla
[05:55] <losher> dragon_: actually I withdraw my remark. The *server* is not installed by default...
[05:55] <Henry5> it works with the public key file which provided
[05:56] <Xodiac13> when i want to uninstall a .run file can i just delete the directory
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  totally depends on what the .run installer did.
[05:57] <Guest40885> want help with frets on fire !!!
[05:57] <Xodiac13> ive installed woflenstien enemy territory
[05:57] <R0ncoToke> Do you guys feel comfortable using KDE v4 as compared to v3.5 ?
[05:57] <Xodiac13> and i just want to uninstall it
[05:57] <jamiewan> Guest40885: no you dont its a bad game
[05:57] <R0ncoToke> Xodiac13, Method of install ?
[05:57] <Xodiac13> ive looked at the forums and i just need help personally do i dont mess anything up
[05:57] <Xodiac13> it was
[05:57] <Dr_willis> R0ncoToke:  ive toyed with kde4 - its gotten more and more useable every month..   but i still use gnome more  for now.
[05:58] <durt> Xodiac13, unintall et or delete the .run?
[05:58] <Guest40885> lol
[05:58] <Xodiac13> uninstall et
[05:58] <Guest40885> it's a good one just shut up a little
[05:58] <R0ncoToke> Xodiac13, One line please!
[05:58] <Guest40885> it's a good one just shut up a little
[05:58] <Xodiac13> chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:58] <Xodiac13> its something like that
[05:58] <SnakDoc> Dr_willis you ever try xfce ?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  with stuff like that - its a good idea to run the installer/install the game to the users home directory. not the system (dont run the .run as root)  i think it just copies everything to one single directory. and you could just delete that dir.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> SnakDoc:  yep. dident like some parts of it. if i want minimal i use jwm + rox filer
[05:59] <R0ncoToke> SnakDoc, How is xfce ?
[05:59] <Xodiac13> how do i delete it
[05:59] <Xodiac13> though i dont want it to mess anything up
[05:59] <Xodiac13> ive checked the synaptics package manager
[05:59] <Xodiac13> and nothin
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  find out where it installed to.. delete directory it installed to.. it will NOT be in synaptics
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  the .run stuff totally bypasses synaptic
[05:59] <Xodiac13> and then im good its gone
[06:00] <jamiewan> Guest40885: i installed it from the add/remove no problems whats wrong with it?
[06:00] <Xodiac13> how do i search it
[06:00] <SnakDoc> R0ncoToke i never tried it thats why i was asking about it i use gnome at moment didn't like kde was slow to me
[06:00] <durt> Xodiac13, it's only 200-300 meg base install do you really need that back?
[06:00] <Xodiac13> yeah
[06:00] <Xodiac13> lol
[06:00] <Xodiac13> i dont paly it
[06:00] <Xodiac13> i cant
[06:00] <FloodBot3> Xodiac13: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <Xodiac13> cause it ask permision
[06:00] <Henry5> ...
[06:00] <R0ncoToke> SnakDoc, I was disappointed with KDE v4.
[06:00] <Xodiac13> to play the game and doesnt save my profile
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  a nifty little 'gpl steam type program' i found --> http://en.djl-linux.org/      makes installing some games (safely to the users home directory) nice and fun and easy..
[06:01] <ThatBoogieman> Why does Firefox not run in KDE/4 at all?  It has my bookmarks and for some reason Konqueror has trouble with Facebook
[06:01] <Steve_> is there anything like "shelf" or will let me zoom out the desktop and also work with the windows?
[06:01] <Xodiac13> its called dgl right
[06:01] <SnakDoc> R0ncoToke i never could get my wireless to connect and everything seems very slugish i like things to be instant :)
[06:01] <R0ncoToke> SnakDoc, :D
[06:02] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: so all i have to do is delete the directory right
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:   you could reinstall it (run the installer as the user)  or see if djl has it.       I was really impressed with djl
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  i think so. you could rerun the .run and see if it has an uninstall option
[06:02] <SnakDoc> R0ncoToke you ever try xfce ?
[06:02] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: and it will install it just fine with no permission doing the game and will save my profile
[06:02] <Steve_> must not be anything yet.
[06:03] <R0ncoToke> SnakDoc, Not the new version. I just happen to know a friend who use xfce.
[06:03] <dayofswords> does ubuntu come with a mail server is thats just the server version?
[06:03] <renic> what works best for running freebsd in a virtual machine?  I've tried virtualbox, and it seems to having problems.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> dayofswords:  you could install one on the desktop system if you wanted
[06:03] <pat_> hi
[06:03] <dayofswords> i wasnt planning to just wondering
[06:04] <SnakDoc> R0ncoToke they like it ? the speed difference noticable ?
[06:04]  * R0ncoToke is so in love with GNOME that he would start developing it.
[06:04] <R0ncoToke> SnakDoc, Ill have to ask.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> R0ncoToke:  actually add in features that people want! :) but are too 'complex' for them.. Like.. err... 'screen saver configuration!'
[06:05] <pat_> I was wondering if someone can point me to the right direction.
[06:05] <losher> renic: all the bsds seem to run fine in vmware, fwiw....
[06:05] <R0ncoToke> Dr_willis, :D
[06:05] <ThatBoogieman> R0ncoToke: is there a way I can re-install/reset Gnome in case I or an application has made some display change that's caused it to not boot like this?
[06:05] <Xodiac13> how do i install djl
[06:05] <jamiewan> pat_: ask your question and wait
[06:06] <Xodiac13> it doesnt have a confige file or make
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  read and follow directions at http://en.djl-linux.org/?q=node/19
[06:06] <losher> dayofswords: plenty of choices for a mail server: exim, postfix, sendmail, qmail. All about equally impossible to configure....
[06:06] <R0ncoToke> ThatBoogieman, Which version of Ubuntu ?
[06:06] <ThatBoogieman> 8.04 Hardy Heron
[06:06] <Xodiac13> thank you
[06:06] <renic> losher: thanks
[06:07] <R0ncoToke> ThatBoogieman, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  extract it to some dir..  (like djl) cd to the dir.. run the app.. I think you need to install the python-qt4 package first however.
[06:07] <dayofswords> losher thanks for the  examples though i'm not planning to install on
[06:07] <dayofswords> one just remeber reading that somewhere
[06:07] <pat_> when I compile the kernel the device modules compiles on my desktop kernel. But won't compile on a pre-comfigured kernel
[06:07] <stowaway> YO
[06:07] <R0ncoToke> ThatBoogieman, I am not sure as it it will solve your problem.
[06:08] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: how do i do that
[06:08] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: and how do i run the djl.sh
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  do what? install stuff? use the package maanger, search
[06:08] <stowaway> i have installed windows on a spare parition on my ubuntu computer. so now it always boots into windows..
[06:08] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: okay sorry
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  run stuff  cd to the dir  ./whatever.sh  you DID run a .run earlier.. same thing.
[06:08] <stowaway> do i just run the ubuntu live cd.. moun the hard drive..
[06:08] <stowaway> then reinstall grub?
[06:09] <dayofswords> windows clears you boot leader evilly
[06:09] <KoolD> i have got a php indent script for vim. How do i install it?
[06:09] <stowaway> so there must be a way? or do i just reinstall all and then install ubuntu after?
[06:09] <stowaway> that sucks.
[06:09] <dravekx> YUM, Tar.bz, rpm, dev: Whats the difference?
[06:09] <dravekx> deb*
[06:09] <R0ncoToke> stowaway, http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[06:10] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: so now when i run it it will automattically install programs for me
[06:10] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  some are 'package' manager packages.. some are just archives
[06:10] <durt> dayofswords, best to address whom your talking to as the channel is busy
[06:10] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: and uninstall
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  if you tell it to.. it can.
[06:10] <jamiewan> pat_: ask question and wait, if anyone can help they will, ask again if no response after 5 mins or so
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  run it and try it...
[06:10] <Xodiac13> k
[06:10] <dayofswords> for some reson i cant use vlc to watch a dvd disc
[06:10] <stowaway> okay cool . i was right. thanx
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  it had issues over the week end with some servers being down.. but the forums says its working now.
[06:11] <Xodiac13> thats good
[06:11] <k1en> hi , i have a bunch of ubuntu-hardys behind a router- all on the same subnet, i was wondering if there is an easy wayto communicate between them , without having to set up accouns (a la MSN, skype etc)?
[06:12] <durt> klen, a little more specific, any TCP/IP client/server type of software will 'communicate'
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  check out 'NumptyPhysics' :)
[06:12] <k1en> durt, i mean something more user friendly, like an IM
[06:12] <R0ncoToke> k1en, See if http://directory.fsf.org/project/ejabberd/ suits your need.
[06:12] <pat_> When I compile the kernel on my desktop the device module compiles. But on a pre-configured kernel for an arm arch. the device module won't compile
[06:12] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: nice thanks
[06:12] <dayofswords> vlc wont play a dvd and gives these errors http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/222401/
[06:12] <dravekx> how do I find out the sudo code to install a certain program? like if i want to install flashplayer?
[06:12] <jareep> bastid_razor:  Still around?  http://pastebin.com/fa659ef8  Is my current xorg.conf.  I have 173 nvidia drivers installed, but glx isn't working.  glxinfo gives "GLX missing".   http://pastebin.com/f589d5429 is the Xorg.0.log file that mentions GLX failing.  Ideas?
[06:13] <k1en> R0ncoToke, thanks
[06:13] <jetftwi> Do I need  to include schema file other than the default 4 to include aliases to ldap server the default four in my case are core.schema ,cosine.schema ,nis.schema and inetorgperson.schema
[06:13] <durt> klen, there's some irc type client/sever stuff in the repos.
[06:13] <durt> !irc
[06:13] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: please help me i installed enemy territory and all i do is uninstall it right
[06:13] <durt> that didn't work
[06:14] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: delete directory for it
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  if you mean by tat .run porogram.. reruning the .run MIGHT hae a uninstall feature.. or yes.. just delete the dir it created..
[06:14] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: thank you
[06:15] <b0nn> hmm
[06:15] <b0nn> I have just installed ubuntu nbr on my new aspire one
[06:15] <dayofswords> for some reason i cant open my cd/dvd play says "cannot mount"
[06:15] <Dr_willis> b0nn:  i use that also. :)
[06:15] <dravekx> ok. I downloaded the tar.bz file of flash player and extracted it to my home directory. how do I install it?
[06:15] <b0nn> heh, I'm thinking I might install kde :D
[06:16] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  there is the flash player pacakges in the packatge manager - you dont need to download the tar.gz
[06:16] <Dr_willis> !flash
[06:16] <b0nn> hmm
[06:16] <Dr_willis> b0nn:  issue i have ith the netbooks is the 'short' screens can make some things awkward
[06:17] <jetftwi> Do I need  to include schema file other than the default 4 to include /etc/aliases to ldap server the default four in my case are core.schema ,cosine.schema ,nis.schema and inetorgperson.schema It is giving me an error saying invalid  " ADD Entry  Invalid attribute syntax"
[06:17] <b0nn> I cannot tab between channels, I end up tabbing between consoles :(
[06:17] <Interphase> oh b0nn, I noticed that today
[06:17] <Interphase> that was annoying amirite
[06:17] <Dr_willis> b0nn:  i also disabled the netbook remix funny gui and use the normal gnome one
[06:17] <b0nn> Interphase: and some :)
[06:17] <b0nn> Dr_willis: sounds suspiciously like what I'm goiong to do :D
[06:18] <dravekx> Dr_willis, how do I install it? or how do I find out what is available in the package manager?
[06:18] <Xodiac13> it wont let me delete the directory
[06:18] <bucky> dayofswords: type group  are you a member of the cdrom group?
[06:18] <Xodiac13> enemy territory i have to be root
[06:18] <b0nn> dravekx: apt, synaptic, or your favourite package manager
[06:18] <dayofswords> cdrom group?
[06:18] <bucky> dayofswords: type group  in a term
[06:18] <Dr_willis> dravekx:  read that url the bot gave.. and i normally install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package on a clean install - it grabs flash and java and some fonts.. and other bits
[06:19] <dayofswords> (new to linux)
[06:19] <ThatBoogieman> R0ncoToke: didn't work.  It reinstalled but I still have the weird white box in the upper left and nothing else booting.
[06:19] <alpine> haiiiiiiii
[06:19] <Dr_willis> b0nn:  check the forums for the netbook remix stuff also. thers a few bugs/fixs for it with some netbooks that help a lot.
[06:19] <b0nn> awesome, thanks
[06:19] <b0nn> I do love having ubuntu on this though
[06:19] <dayofswords> bucky, what do you mean?
[06:20] <bucky> dayofswords: type group  in a terminal
[06:20] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: how do i delete a directory if i cant get into the file system
[06:20] <dayofswords> bash: group: command not found
[06:20] <k1en> R0ncoToke, this ejabbered thing requires a user name /account/password thing ?
[06:20] <Okay> when I boot up, the sound loops in the background. Is there a fix?
[06:20] <jetftwi> Do I need  to include schema file other than the default 4 to include /etc/aliases to ldap server the default four in my case are core.schema ,cosine.schema ,nis.schema and inetorgperson.schema It is giving me an error saying invalid  " ADD Entry  Invalid attribute syntax"
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  Huh? you find the directory.. and use the delete feture of the file manager.. or the terminal.. 'rm -rf /path/to/directory' (use sudo if its a system dir.. OR just dont worry about it.. its not a huge install anyway)
[06:21] <bucky> dayofswords: type groups with an s.. sorry,  you need to be a member of the cdrom group to access the cdrom
[06:21] <dayofswords> bucky: cdrom is there
[06:21] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: i dont know what the patch is to it in the terminal i found it i just cant find it in the terminal
[06:22] <Xodiac13> i cant go to the termianl
[06:22] <Xodiac13> filesystem:
[06:22] <Okay> when I boot up, the sound loops in the background. Is there a fix?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  and whats the path?
[06:22] <Xodiac13> /usr/local/games
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  you would 'cd /usr/local/games'
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  from a terminal
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  and if this is all bash 'voodoo' then you might want to just leave it alone.. untill you learn some more linux.
[06:23] <Xodiac13> okay i got there
[06:23] <b0nn> how do I tyurn the audio up on this thing
[06:23] <Xodiac13> and now i do rm
[06:23] <ThatBoogieman> Okay, since I can't fix Gnome... can someone tell me why Firefox doesn't work in KDE/KDE4 at all?  I don't like Konqueror and it can't seem to even load Facebook.
[06:24] <Okay> ThatBoogieman, sudo apt-get install firefox 3.5
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  since that is a system directory.. you will need to use 'sudo rm -rf WHATEVERTHEDIRECTORYWAS'
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Xodiac13:  and dont make a typo. :)
[06:24] <bucky> dayofswords: mount /media/cdrom; ls /media/cdrom
[06:24] <R0ncoToke> ThatBoogieman, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110353
[06:24] <Xodiac13> k thanks
[06:25] <Zxcvb> how long should it take to make the kernel-image package?
[06:25] <dayofswords> bucky:mount: can't find /media/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:25] <Okay> when I boot up, the sound loops in the background. Is there a fix?
[06:25] <jareep> Anyone have an idea why installing nvidia-glx-180 removes xorg?
[06:25] <b0nn> sweet, found that
[06:25] <Xodiac13> thank you Dr_willis: have a good one thank you very much
[06:25] <b0nn> now, does anyone know if the webcam works?
[06:26] <FLJohn> I just unzipped a driver, how do I get it running in terminal?
[06:26] <dayofswords> bucky: i do have an odd cd/dvd drive, it removable and can be replaced with a floppy drive at the push of a button
[06:26] <Dr_willis> b0nn:  i use the 'cheese' progam to test webcams
[06:27] <bucky> dayofswords: hmm.. i don't know then
[06:28] <Okay> b0nn, sudo apt-get install cheese
[06:28] <b0nn> Dr_willis: it works!!!!!!
[06:28] <Bilbo_Baggins> I like cheese.  It's yummie.
[06:28] <bucky> why did ubuntu install cheeze on my system by default
[06:28] <Okay> Bilbo_Baggins, lol
[06:28] <b0nn> Okay: thanks, it comes on the img I d/l
[06:28] <Okay> b0nn, ....really? which version is that?
[06:29] <b0nn> um, I unno, NBR frsh off the internets
[06:29] <BBr82> Hi, what do people use to browse samba shares with in XFCE? I'm not sure what to use?
[06:30] <alpine> HAIIIIII
[06:30] <Bilbo_Baggins> I wish to make a sincere apology for myself... about 30 hours ago... I was out of line and I hope a op on here gets this.
[06:30] <mirsal> moin
[06:30] <ikonia> Bilbo_Baggins: please stop in here
[06:30] <Okay> Bilbo_Baggins, what did you do?
[06:31] <Bilbo_Baggins> may I msg you ikonia?
[06:31] <ikonia> Bilbo_Baggins: I have already messaged you to ask you to stop with the offtopic conversation
[06:31] <Okay> Bilbo_Baggins, what did you do?
[06:31] <dravekx> DAMNIT. hwo come everytime I do something... "I DONT HAVE PERMISSION"
[06:31] <ikonia> Okay: please - this is offtopic
[06:31] <dravekx> :(
[06:32] <ikonia> dravekx: such as ?
[06:32] <Okay> ikonia, when I boot up, the sound loops in the background. Is there a fix?
[06:32] <dravekx> ikonia: I downloaded lampp and isntructions say to extract to /opt... so I try, and it says "you dont have permission".
[06:32] <simon389> can anybody help me? I just installed Ubuntu, and my processor PentiumM 1.7Ghz will not run faster than 600Mhz
[06:33] <dravekx> ubuntu wont allow me to work any directories except the home directory?
[06:33] <ikonia> dravekx: opt is owned by root, you'll need sudo, however I suggest you don't download and extract lampp and just install the apache2/mysql-server/php5 packages from synaptic
[06:33] <ikonia> dravekx: no Linux based OS will allow non-prvilged users to access root file systems such as /opt
[06:33] <dravekx> ikonia, I have no idea what synaptic is. can you enlighten me?
[06:33] <fetusbubble> what are 'super cow powers' in apt-get/aptitude? o.O
[06:33] <chriszf_> Anyone happen to know the command that initiates the shutdown dialog in xubuntu?
[06:34] <bucky> BBr82: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280391
[06:34] <ikonia> dravekx: sure, the package manager
[06:34] <ikonia> !synaptic > dravekx
[06:34] <pturing> Anybody know about making packages? I'm having some trouble backporting a package to hardy.
[06:34] <R0ncoToke> !lamp
[06:36] <simon389> can anybody help me please? I installed Ubuntu, and my processor PentiumM 1.7Ghz will not run faster than 600Mhz...
[06:37] <Okay> simon389, and?
[06:37] <simon389> how do I make it run the correct speed?
[06:37] <ikonia> simon389: there are two possabilities here
[06:37] <R0ncoToke> simon389, ?
[06:38] <Okay> simon389, i don't think thats possible. it is what it is
[06:38] <ikonia> simon389: the first one is that speedstep is enabled and you're not doing anything to make it run fast, the second is that the monitoring applet is not picking up the speed correctly, in which case it's a red herring
[06:38] <Bilbo_Baggins> --- Log opened Sat Jul 18 17:46:06 2009
[06:38] <Bilbo_Baggins> 17:46 [msg(elky)] Oh, elky.....I'm sober now.  Here is a nice unique way to express myself.  Go FUCK your self, and keep up the good work....inbreeding does wonders for your children.  Tell your sister / wife I said hi.
[06:38] <FloodBot3> Bilbo_Baggins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <simon389> how do i check?
[06:39] <ikonia> simon389: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:39] <nafta> bilbo shouldnt be kicked...he is a hobbit
[06:39] <nafta> :D
[06:39] <ikonia> nafta: please don't provoke
[06:39] <Okay> nafta, I cussed at him
[06:39] <simon389> what does cat /proc/cpuinfo mean?
[06:39] <nafta> what?, im provoking O_o
[06:39] <nafta> ok..
[06:39] <ikonia> simon389: run the command "cat /proc/cpuinfo" in a terminal
[06:40] <simon389> how do i run the terminal?
[06:40] <ikonia> simon389: applications->accesories->terminal menu
[06:41] <R0ncoToke> simon389, Applications > Accessories > Terminal.
[06:42] <simon389> http://paste.ubuntu.com/222408/
[06:42] <nafta> Okay
[06:42] <Okay> nafta, what?
[06:42] <nafta> nadda, just ok
[06:42] <nafta> :P
[06:42] <nafta> haha
[06:43] <agent_j> how do i delete all my ufw rules really really quickly?
[06:43] <ikonia> simon389: that looks like your processor is actually a 600mgz one
[06:43] <ikonia> simon389: sorry - I'm wrong
[06:43] <ikonia> simon389: 1.7 is correct
[06:43] <dravekx> ikonia, in synaptic, how do I know which files to install for apache/mysql/php ? there's a huge list of files when i ran a quick search for apache.
[06:43] <ikonia> !lamp > dravekx
[06:44] <ikonia> dravekx: have a read through that URL
[06:44] <nafta> dravekx: ...do sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:44] <simon389> how do i get the speed up to 1.7Ghz
[06:44] <ikonia> nafta: he's using synaptic and that won't install lamp
[06:44] <R0ncoToke> ikonia, simon389, Is it dual core ? May be its using just a single core now ?
[06:44] <simon389> it is not dual core
[06:44] <ikonia> simon389: I suspect it's speed step, once your machine is "working hard" or busy, it should scale up
[06:44] <Okay> !lamp > nafta
[06:44] <simon389> But it feels laggy right now
[06:45] <emergion> Hello I have a desktop running ubuntu here and flash will work for my account which is an "Administrator" account and for a regular user account my sound in flash will not work has anyone seen this?
[06:45] <ikonia> simon389: what video card/ram have you got
[06:45] <nafta> you dont need lamp bro, with such a easy to go package manager that distro has, you could just easly install apache/mysql and php with just a few commands
[06:45] <ikonia> nafta: lamp is php5/mysql-server/apache - he does want "lamp"
[06:46] <simon389> Radeon. Thinkpad has 1Ghz RAM
[06:46] <ikonia> simon389: the laggy feel is normally caused by video card configuation more often than not
[06:46] <ikonia> !ati > simon389
[06:47] <ikonia> simon389: ati cards and nvidia cards normally need configuring (see the url ubottu sent you)
[06:47] <HotShowers> can someone help me work out how much ran my linux VPS has?
[06:47] <HotShowers> ram*
[06:47] <nafta> thats why im saying that installing php mysql and apache2 with regular apt-get could get him set up with what he wants...
[06:47] <ikonia> HotShowers: "free"
[06:47] <nafta> oh and phpmyadmin..
[06:47] <ikonia> nafta: he's using synaptic and he didn't ask for phpmyadmin
[06:48] <nafta> phpmyadmin comes with lamp...
[06:48] <ikonia> nafta: no it doesn't
[06:48] <nafta> as well as with wamp
[06:48] <ciju> anybody got intel 5100 wireless working with ubuntu ?
[06:48] <HotShowers>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:48] <HotShowers> Mem:       1048576      91580     956996          0          0          0
[06:48] <HotShowers> -/+ buffers/cache:      91580     956996
[06:48] <HotShowers> Swap:            0          0          0
[06:48] <FloodBot3> HotShowers: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:48] <HotShowers> sorry
[06:48] <ikonia> HotShowers: please use a pastebin in future, but you have 1 gig of ram
[06:48] <HotShowers> ikonia: i don't think i do because as soon as i install anything it says im out of memory
[06:49] <HotShowers> and it still will say 900000 free
[06:49] <ikonia> HotShowers: speak to your vps provider
[06:49] <HotShowers> also notice the cache is 0
[06:49] <HotShowers> and never increates
[06:49] <dravekx> i just dont understand why I cant have full access to my laptop and hafta constantly use sudo instead of giving all permissions to my user instead of root. Im sure there is a reason, but I just dont understand it yet... still too NEW I guess.
[06:49] <ikonia> dravekx: security
[06:49] <porjo> I'm running 9.04 - some time after upgrading, my numlock stopped working. The light goes on/off when I hit the 'NumLock' key, however typing numbers on the keypad doesn't work??
[06:50] <ikonia> Pricey: that's most odd
[06:50] <ikonia> Pricey: sorry - not you
[06:50] <daishadar> is there a way to script a mouse click (on an icon in the notification tray) via a keyboard shortcut?  I want a shortcut to restore a particular program that's minimized in the tray
[06:50] <ikonia> porjo: that's most odd
[06:51] <Drumroll> Windows proved that it was a HUGE security risk to have administrator profiles open all the time.  Linux sought to fix that by enabling admin to be open ONLY when you NEED it (via sudo), and I think it's reasonable.  Quick access is slightly (but not totally) negated for more security.
[06:51] <nafta> sudo is garbage..
[06:52] <Drumroll> It's far better than doing nothing.
[06:52] <ikonia> nafta: don't use it then - Drumroll was just explaining as a response to his question
[06:52] <Okay> nafta, if sudo is garbage, what are you?
[06:52] <Okay> nothing will work without sudo
[06:52] <ikonia> Okay: you can enable the root account, or change your file system permissions, both are not recommended by ubuntu
[06:53] <nafta> and Linux fixed that, by enabling admin to be open ONLY when you NEED (via root access) not via sudo,
[06:53] <Drumroll> Okay: I meant that they could have done it like Windows and open Linux to a host of security problems just as a result. *shrugs*
[06:53] <nafta> ikonia: im not talking to you.
[06:53] <nafta> dont care about your opinion either.
[06:53] <Okay> nafta, lol?
[06:54] <ikonia> nafta: then keep to the channel topic
[06:55] <nafta> oh..didnt know i was off topic.
[06:56] <nafta> didnt know i was talking about my vacations..
[06:56] <ikonia> nafta: please stop,
[06:56] <nafta> please die. :D
[06:56] <stowaway> yo, im trying to setup my media cetner computer running ubuntu.. it works fine on my monitor.. but when i plug it into the LCD 46" samsung tv it says mode not supported on the tv.. i am edited the xorg.conf file to try and get it supported.. native resolution is 1920x1080, horizontal freq is 66.587 verticle freq is 59.934 and pixel clock is 138.50
[06:56] <LLStarks> how do i remove everything installed by kubuntu-desktop?
[06:57] <stowaway> do i put it in screen section?
[06:57] <stowaway> under subsection display?
[06:57] <nomad77> LLStarks:   sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <LLStarks> that's only the meta package
[06:58] <LLStarks> not the things it installs
[06:59] <maxxist> LLStarks reinstall would be easiest.
[06:59] <LLStarks> nvm
[06:59] <LLStarks> this works
[06:59] <LLStarks> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[06:59] <FloodBot3> LLStarks: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <maxxist> LLStarks:  yeah that looks good too.
[07:01] <StraightDave> hi folks, i am getting "Cannot Connect to X Server" but i have installed xvfb via apt-get....what to do ?
[07:01] <Okay> my bootloader got overrided. how do i restore it on ubuntu 9.04?
[07:02] <dravekx> whats the difference between: (universe)(multiverse)(plain) ?
[07:03] <bucky> dravekx: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/index.html
[07:04] <Smarta> aiya
[07:04] <R0ncoToke> dravekx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[07:05] <dravekx> thx bucky! :)
[07:05] <bucky> yup
[07:06] <R0ncoToke> dravekx, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components
[07:06] <richardcavell> Does anyone know: Is x-server-utils package present in any 9.04 GNOME Ubuntu distribution/remix?
[07:06] <ChameleonQS> anyone here?
[07:06] <ChameleonQS> I need some help
[07:06] <^Einstein> !ask | ChameleonQS
[07:07] <ChameleonQS> ok
[07:08] <Dday> how do i view my pidgin log?
[07:08] <ChameleonQS> I am on a windows computer, and i want to run linux from my usb. i restarted my computer after putting ubuntu on it and the bios thing popped up and i selected USB Flahs Drive and it didnt work
[07:08] <KB1JWQ> ChameleonQS: Then you didnt' make the USB drive bootable.
[07:09] <ChameleonQS> would how to make my usb bootable be on the faqs and do i already need linux to do that?
[07:09] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: i need help i delete the directory and everything was find used that program you told me i installed it and now it wont do a complete install with djl and wont remove
[07:09] <Alex___> ChameleonQS: The easiest way to do this would be to use Unetbootin
[07:09] <bucky> richardcavell: do you have nvidia?
[07:09] <Xodiac13> Dr_willis: it will remove but wont install right is there a way to fix it
[07:10] <ChameleonQS> dont i need linux to use that?
[07:10] <Alex___> ChameleonQS: Nope
[07:10] <ChameleonQS> ok
[07:10] <Xodiac13> i need help with a program called djl
[07:10] <ChameleonQS> so i run it on my windows and i install it on my usb or something in the lines of that right?
[07:10] <Alex___> ChameleonQS: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/unetbootin-windows-357.exe/download
[07:10] <ChameleonQS> thx alot
[07:10] <richardcavell> bucky: no, Intel
[07:10] <Xodiac13> i cant fully install enemy territory it wont launch right nor will it remove
[07:11] <Guest62461> i want to install morrowind onto my computer but dont know how?
[07:11] <Okay> Xodiac13, sudo apt-get install enemy territory
[07:11] <Xodiac13> Okay: k
[07:11] <Alex___> ChameleonQS: It's pretty self explanitory, Just select to make an ISO image bootable, then select the flash drive you want to install it on and click go
[07:11] <haba7> Dday: Conversation => View Log
[07:12] <Xodiac13> Okay: it said it cant find package
[07:12] <Guest62461> how do i install morrowind?
[07:12] <Xodiac13> Okay: i just want to install it with djl and it wont remove all the way and when i see it in the games it says its there but its not
[07:13] <bucky> richardcavell: is this on a lappy?
[07:13] <richardcavell> bucky: yep
[07:13] <andrew__> beryl help needed
[07:13] <Okay> ignore Xodiac13
[07:13] <bucky> richardcavell: check this out, you'll have to sign a waiver first
[07:13] <bucky> http://www.myubuntu.ca/?p=256
[07:13] <Xodiac13> Okay: but i want to install it lol how will i be able to do that
[07:14] <Okay> hold on
[07:14] <Xodiac13> Okay: i have the program djl
[07:14] <Okay> Xodiac13, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5246
[07:15] <andrew__> I am not able to find any useful information on how to install beryl on jaunty jackalope...any gurus feel like helping this newbie?
[07:15] <haba7> what is the easiest  way to upgrade jaunty mesa to version 7.5?
[07:15] <mintux> some problem here . I check size each directory in root and the total was less than 9 gig but I have problem in sysmonitor it said you root that is 18.3 gig is full and 100% and I can't work with my linux and some softwares doesn't work .
[07:15] <jeffs> whats up everyone
[07:15] <Slart> !beryl | andrew__
[07:16] <jeffs> any one here use linux to make music??
[07:16] <andrew__> really?  very disappointing
[07:16] <andrew__> was looking forward to "the Cube"
[07:16] <Slart> andrew__: all that stuff is in compiz now
[07:16] <Alex___> andew_: The cuve is in compiz
[07:16] <haba7> jeffs: i use rosegarden and ardour
[07:17] <bucky> andrew__: it's been replaced with emerald http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131246
[07:17] <andrew__> ok...must be why beryl.org had no install instructions...got a 404 error
[07:17] <jeffs> thats cool, Im new to the linux world, and I love it so far
[07:17] <jeffs> rosegarden and ardour are really good programs
[07:17] <jeffs> or at least they seem to be so far...
[07:17] <Slart> bucky: huh? I'm not sure emerald is even available any more
[07:18] <Alex___> You can still get and use emerald, just no support for it
[07:18] <Slart> bucky: oh.. nevermind.. it's still in the repos
[07:18] <bucky> Slart: thanks for your help
[07:18] <andrew__> I thik I was able to retreive compiz using package mngr...lemme check
[07:18] <R0ncoToke> How to get gnome-packagekit for 9.04
[07:18] <jeffs> any one know where I can find some good fluidsynth(qsynth) soundfonts at???
[07:19] <urthmover> When I right-click on a .avi file and select "Open with other application..." and then select VLC  the file opens once in vlc then continues to use Totem as the default player for all .avi file types.  How do I force *.avi to always open in vlc?
[07:20] <bucky> R0ncoToke: apt-get install packagekit-gnome
[07:20] <haba7> jeffs: maybe you should try the channel #ubuntustudio
[07:20] <R0ncoToke> bucky, I tried it the other way around :)
[07:20] <OttifantSir> urthmover: Properties-> Open and select application
[07:20] <bucky> i see that
[07:20] <quizme> how can i check how much RAM I'm using ?
[07:21] <Slart> andrew__: compiz is already installed, by default, in jaunty. You just have to activate it in system, preferences, appearance.
[07:21] <richardcavell> bucky: I'd rather not downgrade my driver
[07:21] <Slart> quizme: free
[07:21] <richardcavell> bucky: I'd rather they just fixed the one's that there
[07:21] <urthmover> OttifantSir: thanks that seems to work for all *.avi now
[07:21] <rodwell> I have a Compaq C700 running Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope and I can't make my webcam work, can anyone help.
[07:21] <bucky> richardcavell: sorry i couldn't be of more help
[07:21] <Slart> andrew__: it's called "Desktop Effects"
[07:21] <OttifantSir> urthmover: Should do it for all files.
[07:21] <richardcavell> bucky: that's okay.  It's a shame they don't fix it because the Intel GMA950 chipset is rather common
[07:21] <bucky> i know
[07:22] <urthmover> OttifantSir: yes it does now...strange that the other places doesn't seem to work as you'd expect
[07:22] <richardcavell> bucky: Fedora 11 won't even boot on GMA950
[07:22] <bucky> richardcavell: it's one of the most asked about problems in here
[07:22] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps i got a question..  i changed something and my output of digital audio has turned off on my mediacenter(ubuntu) any ideas on where it could be at
[07:22] <Drumroll> Quizme: systerm-admin-system monitor and use the resource tab is the easiest way to determine your current RAM usage.
[07:22] <bbelt16ag> i checked all the  mixers
[07:22] <bbelt16ag> not there, and i  tried the  sound  system tool not there either...
[07:22] <andrew__> are you serious??  I had that the whole time!  Been beating my head against a wall for two days with this...downloading the rest of compiz including emerald right now using synaptic
[07:23] <OttifantSir> urthmover: It should work for all other files too, was what I meant, but.. AVI-files is a good start IMO.
[07:23] <bbelt16ag> iknow there was something special to it just dont memeber what now
[07:23] <urthmover> OttifantSir: ah ok I see what you mean...I'll make sure I do it that way for any other filetypes that I'd like to change the default viewing application with
[07:24] <andrew__> slart:  thanks man.*blushing from newbie stupidity*  I needed to hear that.
[07:24] <bucky> bbelt16ag: something in System=>Preferences=>Sound ?
[07:24] <bbelt16ag> i couldnt find anything
[07:24] <bbelt16ag> i thought it would be there too
[07:25] <Slart> andrew__: you don't really need emerald, afaik, there is another decorator by default
[07:25] <bbelt16ag> i recently updated system
[07:25] <rodwell> I have a Compaq C700 running Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope and I can't make my webcam work, can anyone help.
[07:25] <Slart> andrew__: don't forget to install the ccsm
[07:25] <Slart> !ccsm | andrew__
[07:26] <Alex___> Does anyone know any simple ways to get dual monitor support (9.04) on an ATI Radeon HD 4850?
[07:26] <urthmover> I have multiple systems that I'd like to keep the home folder in sync with...is Dropbox my best solution?  are there other reccomendations?
[07:26] <nomad77> rodwell: try lsusb see what it is
[07:26] <ophiliabooty> hello
[07:26] <erikk71> i am having problem
[07:27] <nomad77> rodwell: in terminal
[07:27] <Slart> urthmover: rsync?
[07:27] <Slart> urthmover: or use a remote /home and map it over the network using nfs or similar
[07:27] <erikk71> when im away from the computer the monitor goes black an nothing i do will get my pc to respond
[07:28] <andrew__> thanks guys...got simple ccsm just now...was actually already running desktop effects...had no idea that that IS beryl(compriz) whatever...thanks again
[07:28] <rodwell> mine is not usb is integrated
[07:28] <bucky> richardcavell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[07:28] <erikk71> its likes it goes to sleep
[07:28] <erikk71> an i cant wake it up
[07:28] <urthmover> Slart: I'll look into that  thanks for the suggestions
[07:28] <Alex___> erikk71: Two questions... Do you have a screensaver set? and are you using Compiz?
[07:28] <rodwell> even though I should used that command?
[07:28] <erikk71> wat is comwiz
[07:28] <nomad77> rodwell: so's mine hp laptop but its usb,try lspci then
[07:29] <bucky> rodwell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=937213
[07:29] <erikk71> compwiz
[07:29] <erikk71> im still new to linux
[07:29] <Alex___> erikk71: Right click on your desktop, click on Change Background. Then click on the effects tab and select none.
[07:29] <OttifantSir> !compiz | erikk71
[07:29] <richardcavell> bucky: did you write that?
[07:29] <erikk71> ok
[07:30] <bucky> richardcavell: no..
[07:30] <Drumroll> erikk71: COMPIZ,, is a way to engage more advanced graphical features with your desktop if your graphics card can support 3D acceleration.  It's pretty snazzy, but older cards have a hard time with it.
[07:30] <gartral> is there any way to make tracker work like the search in Mac OSX and have it combine results from a dictionaray/encyclopedia with the files on the drives?
[07:30] <richardcavell> bucky: it's definitely not for beginners
[07:30] <bucky> haha
[07:30] <OttifantSir> erikk71: A really nice tool for graphical effects on your desktop, the best-known effect being the Desktop Cube, where you can "flip" your screen as if it were on a cuve
[07:30] <rodwell> lsusb Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[07:30] <rodwell> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[07:30] <rodwell> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[07:30] <rodwell> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 04cf:8818 Myson Century, Inc. USB2.0 to ATAPI Bridge Controller
[07:30] <rodwell> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Stroage Device
[07:30] <FloodBot3> rodwell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <rodwell> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04f2:b057 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[07:30] <OttifantSir> cube that is
[07:30] <Alex___> errik71: Then click System > Preferences > Screensaver and select one... then try letting the screen go black... see this time if it A. locks up and B. has a black screen or a screensaver
[07:31] <Alex___> The only problem with Compiz is it fcks up everything else >.>
[07:31] <nomad77> rodwell: problu uvcvideo like mine same mfr i have
[07:31] <erikk71> ok
[07:31] <gartral> Alex___: compiz has given me 0 problems out of the box
[07:31] <erikk71> end up killing another hard drive
[07:32] <OttifantSir> Alex___: It doesn't mess up EVERYTHING else. True, Compiz interferes with some things, but not all.
[07:32] <erikk71> by holding in power button
[07:32] <Threetimes> Hi! What does "tilp: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libticables2.so.1: undefined symbol: usb_deb" mean?
[07:32] <Alex___> gartral & OttifantSir: Compiz messes up Flash, Java and screensavers for me. As well as lagging my computer despite having very good hardware. =(
[07:33] <rodwell> banned
[07:33] <Drumroll> Compiz has the best support on nVida cards at the moment.  ATI cards can use it but it's a little slow and choppy.
[07:33] <Alex___> I suppose it's because I'm an ATI fan then ;)
[07:33] <Alex___> ATI & Linux don't mix =(
[07:33] <nomad77> !pastebin |rodwell
[07:33] <Threetimes> Alex___: Sincew I have the right driver version (9.3+), it just works. I use ATi too.
[07:34] <erikk71> this is p4 dell gx 270
[07:34] <OttifantSir> Alex___: Biggest problem I've had with it has been with it cutting off the titlebar of Moovida. You seem to have had a bad experience is all. I run Compiz on Intel 945GM with 128MB shared RAM, and have no lagging whatsoever. I actually have LESS processor use with it than Metacity.
[07:34] <Cyber_Akuma> I noticed when trying to use GParted to shrink away all the unpartitioned space in an extended partition that it would leave 7-8 megs in there. Is this because of that "round to cylinders" option or is osmething else causing it?
[07:34] <gartral> Alex___: well, compiz is slow yes, but my comp refuses too play flash no matter WHAT i do, java works great, and i belive that screensavers are a waste of clock cycles
[07:34] <arooni> control + alt + delete doesnt seem to work on ubuntu jaunty... ideas?
[07:34] <erikk71> not sure what video i have
[07:34] <Alex___> gartral: I'm a sucker for the matrix screensaver =)
[07:34] <lesshaste> I get "E: context.c: waitpid(): No child processes" a lot. It seems to be related to sound. Any fixes?
[07:34] <gartral> Alex___: which one, i remember there being several
[07:34] <Mr_Jfrsn> does crunchbang have a room?
[07:34] <Alex___> Treetimes: How new is that driver? Last time I screwed with it was 3 weeks ago.
[07:35] <Drumroll> Alex__:Maybe because I've had NO problems with Compiz on my nVida comp.  The problem is that ATI just doesn't want to play well with Linux.
[07:35] <Demo> Is there a reason why Wine leaves behind the folder structure it creates?
[07:35] <gartral> Mr_Jfrsn: #crunch|bang but there ussually dead
[07:35] <Alex___> gartral: The only one I had preinstalled was the one that has the green symbols going down that then move closer to make the black spaces look like faces
[07:35] <bucky> Threetimes: why are you trying to build that when tilp and tilp2 are in the repos?
[07:35] <erikk71> i do have other hdd with with ubuntu installed
[07:35] <gartral> Alex___: ahh, the opengl one
[07:36] <Alex___> Drumroll: I agree =( I can't get dual monitor support or compiz running smoothly with ATI
[07:36] <Drumroll> arooni: What function of control+alt+delete are you trying to duplicate?  Closing a program?  Stopping a process?
[07:36] <erikk71> i will not go back to winsdows
[07:36] <Mr_Jfrsn> hmm thanks
[07:36] <Mr_Jfrsn> i cant get used to openbox
[07:36] <Mr_Jfrsn> its awkward
[07:36] <Threetimes> bucky: I installed tilp2 using APT, but when I run it I get the error
[07:36] <nomad77> arooni: sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.config kernel.sysrq = 1 iirc
[07:36] <erikk71> been away from windows xp almost 2 months
[07:36] <Cyber_Akuma> Anybody?
[07:37] <OttifantSir> erikk71: 2 well-spent months.
[07:37] <Alex___> erikk71: Linux has many advantages =) although there is still a lot of proprietary windows stuff =(
[07:37] <bucky> Threetimes: dpkg -l libticables2-1  is it installed?
[07:37] <erikk71> cud pressing a key
[07:37] <OttifantSir> Cyber_Akuma: I believe that to be the case, yes. When I do partitioning, there's always 8MB left, no matter what.
[07:37] <erikk71> i feel asleep
[07:37] <Threetimes> bucky: yes
[07:37] <arooni> Drumroll, the second monitor wasn't picked up
[07:37] <Cyber_Akuma> Argh
[07:38] <erikk71> the keyboard on bed beside me
[07:38] <Cyber_Akuma> but why in the extended partition?
[07:38] <dravekx> how do i change directories within the terminal?
[07:38] <Cyber_Akuma> CAn't I make it put it like, between the extended and primary partition?
[07:38] <erikk71> may caused it
[07:38] <dravekx> oh nvm i got it. :)
[07:39] <nomad77> arooniyou mean ctrl+alt+backspace,you need dontzapit i think
[07:39] <erikk71> reactos will handle legacy windows appls
[07:39] <OttifantSir> Cyber_Akuma: I have no idea. I just told you what partitioning does for me.
[07:39] <Cyber_Akuma> heh
[07:39] <erikk71> an that crap
[07:40] <Drumroll> Alex___: Compiz works fine on my ATI laptop, but a bit slower so I have to turn it off when certain applications are running.  But on my nVida desktop, it flies with NO problems at all.  A lot of it is that ATI as a company just doesn't seem to be as willing to play ball with Linux as nVida was. *shrugs* It's a shame and the Linux community has tried to get on their backs to write better and more useable drivers for Linux OSes.
[07:40] <erikk71> windows 7 is gonna be a nightmare
[07:40] <Cyber_Akuma> why?
[07:40] <Cyber_Akuma> im loving it so far
[07:40] <erikk71> for people
[07:40] <Threetimes> Windows 7 is gonna be windows, I'll stay out of its way...
[07:40] <Cyber_Akuma> Umm, its getting praised everywhere, even the creator of ubuntu said he liked it :P
[07:41] <erikk71> alot of more controling of the pc
[07:41] <Cyber_Akuma> Its not going to be another Vista
[07:41] <Threetimes> That's scary
[07:41] <bucky> Threetimes: that's weird.. hey is your calculator arm based?
[07:41] <Cyber_Akuma> alot of more controling of the pc <--- huh?
[07:41] <Alex___> I think what Microsofts plan was to release vista as a way to lower everyones expectations, then release 7 so everyone thinks it's amazing ;)
[07:41] <erikk71> why everyone gripes about reactos i wonder
[07:41] <Threetimes> bucky: z80, it's the TI84+SE
[07:41] <Cyber_Akuma> lol Alex___
[07:41] <OttifantSir> erikk71: I've tried it in a VM, and it seems better than Vista, but that's not really saying much, so.... I'll keep it in there and look in on it from time to time to keep up my skills, but I'll never again have a Microsoft OS on my machines.
[07:41] <Cyber_Akuma> that makes no business sense
[07:42] <Cyber_Akuma> Honestly, I don't see what everybody's deal with Vista is
[07:42] <erikk71> they make more progress than most third party oses
[07:42] <Cyber_Akuma> I think its just pure internet bad press
[07:42] <lesshaste> I get "E: context.c: waitpid(): No child processes" a lot. It seems to be related to sound. Any fixes?
[07:42] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: I'm just messing because as far as I'm concerned, XP is still by far the best windows OS
[07:42] <erikk71> haiku ois a joke
[07:42] <Cyber_Akuma> heh
[07:42] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, you should try the RC if you have a spare hdd or pc handy
[07:42] <Cyber_Akuma> I did... and now I preordered win7
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> course... there was a very good preorder sale that ended too, $50
[07:43] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: I have tried it. And I think it's way better than vista
[07:43] <OttifantSir> Cyber_Akuma: Infidel! ;-)
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> but prefer xp?
[07:43] <bucky> Threetimes: i think you might have to be a member of plugdev
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> it gets wose OttifantSir
[07:43] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: Still prefer xp so far... maybe the full version
[07:43] <erikk71> only other distro i tried was pc bsd
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> I also have a mac mini
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[07:43] <bucky> Threetimes: type groups and see if you are
[07:43] <erikk71> pc bsd is ok
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> Though I got it because I love gadgets and tech
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> and it was on sale
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[07:43] <Cyber_Akuma> been using windows for a decade, learnign linux, I thought might as well learn osx too
[07:43] <MrPiracy> how do i disable awn in kde only?
[07:44] <Threetimes> bucky: i am
[07:44] <erikk71> i tried linux in 2000
[07:44] <Alex___> Does anyone know where the option is about VOB file splitting in dvd::rip? I can't seem to find it... I want the VOB all in one file, not split in 1 gig sections
[07:44] <erikk71> it was ok
[07:44] <infidel2s> i think  win98 < win2k < winxp < vista < windows 7
[07:44] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, the problem with staying with xp is, it's 64bit support is almost nonexsistant
[07:44] <grawity> infidel2s: exactly
[07:44] <infidel2s> they have progressively got better, aside from that whole windows ME thing
[07:44] <Cyber_Akuma> thats how I feel too infidel2s
[07:44] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: Yeah, that is one bad thing about XP
[07:44] <erikk71> the distro was very friendly
[07:44] <Drumroll> Vista was more stable than XP was in terms of having fewer crashes.  it just...  Ran slower because it was much more bloated.  Ugh.  Windows 7 is SUPPOSED to have the XP speed with the Vista stability.  Only time will tell though...  So far, I love Ubuntu though.  And with Compiz, I can get all of the fance Windows Aero features without slowing my computer to a crawl.
[07:45] <OttifantSir> Cyber_Akuma: Mac is Mac. I love the dock (have AWN for it here), but I don't see myself buying $1000 worth of hardware for the nice price of $4000....
[07:45] <Cyber_Akuma> heh
[07:45] <Cyber_Akuma> I got it for $300
[07:45] <jack2> hi
[07:45] <Cyber_Akuma> a 2ghz dual core model moac mini
[07:45] <infidel2s> steve jobs did a lot of LSD
[07:45] <Cyber_Akuma> it was a sale
[07:45] <Cyber_Akuma> :)
[07:45] <FloodBot3> Cyber_Akuma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <Alex___> Drumroll: I've used XP since the third month it was out... my computer has crashed exactly 1 time.
[07:45] <grawity> My friend (a Ubuntu/KDE user) has recently installed Windows 7. He says it's almost better than Linux.
[07:45] <Demo> hahaha
[07:45] <erikk71> apple will never go up or down
[07:45] <Cyber_Akuma> just bob?
[07:45] <Alex___> Drumroll: Only time I've reinstalled windows was when I did a hardware upgrade
[07:46] <erikk71> it pc way to expensive
[07:46] <Cyber_Akuma> ... I guess that joke was a little too bscure, apple bobbing
[07:46] <Alex___> Oh...
[07:46] <Cyber_Akuma> The only time this system (win2k) crashed on me was
[07:46] <Alex___> I just didn't get who you were saying that to. lol
[07:46] <bucky> Threetimes: does this require a kernel module to be loaded ... like modprobe tilp2 or something  apt-cache show tilp2
[07:46] <Cyber_Akuma> 1. when I had a damaged ram module
[07:46] <jack2> how to work use anjutha editor?
[07:46] <Cyber_Akuma> 2. when I had a bad usb card
[07:46] <erikk71> mac os x is nice interface
[07:46] <Cyber_Akuma> Windows really became stable with 2k and up
[07:46] <lollo3011> hello, i've just finished to install my compiled 2.6.30 kernel, but when i go to the grub there is not the 2.6.30, only 2.6.28! why? how can I put in there the newest too? ty
[07:46] <Cyber_Akuma> 98 was a crashy nightmare for me
[07:46] <OttifantSir> Cyber_Akuma: No, I thought it reflected very well on the state of Apple, and I took away from it also a very bad Windows-experience: BOB.
[07:47] <Threetimes> bucky: there's a tiglusb module, i'll load it now
[07:47] <Cyber_Akuma> lol, I was wondering if people would think I was talking about that too
[07:47] <erikk71> win2000 is security risk
[07:47] <erikk71> better off running xp
[07:47] <Cyber_Akuma> I am thinking of upgrading to xp, but
[07:47] <Cyber_Akuma> its a hassle
[07:47] <Cyber_Akuma> I hace a TON of crap installed here
[07:47] <Alex___> What pisses me off is I just got this Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P and it won't boot from a usb key o.O
[07:48] <Cyber_Akuma> .... and a ton of broken stuff, so a upgrade is out of the question, id need a freash install
[07:48] <Condoulo> is there any way, in Ubuntu/GNOME, where if I create a menu within a menu to create organization, can I drag or move other items into the new sub-menu
[07:48] <grawity> erikk71: until XP goes EOL, then it will become a security risk too
[07:48] <Condoulo> (or would I have to manually re-do my whole menu)
[07:48] <Cyber_Akuma> EVERY single component of this pc is either at it's maximum capacity, or using a workaround to go BEYOND it's maximum capacity, or bottlenechked
[07:48] <Cyber_Akuma> :( I need a new pc
[07:48] <Threetimes> bucky: I do not have a tiglusb module
[07:48] <Uand> hello
[07:48] <bucky> Threetimes: http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_usb/linux_install.html
[07:48] <Drumroll> Alex___: XP crashed a million and one times for me.  And I've never once had a crash with Vista.  However, XP was speedier.  Microsoft is billing 7 as the best of XP and Vista rolled into one.  People liked the snazzy features that Vista offered but disliked that it took so many resources just to run it.  They liked XP's speed and how it was light on resources.  7 is an attempt to combine the two.
[07:49] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: Yeah. you do. lol
[07:49] <MrPiracy> how do i disable awn in kde only?
[07:49] <Uand> i need help
[07:49] <erikk71> im surprised ubuntu has not created a distro that looks like mac osx
[07:49] <Uand> critical error
[07:49] <Uand> !
[07:49] <Cyber_Akuma> Pentium 3 - 1.13ghz, 1 gig of PSC133 SDRAM, I need a PCI card to get USB 2.0.... and it still noyl goes at about 1/4th top USB 2.0 speeds, I need a pci card to read IDE drices above 132 gigs....
[07:49] <Cyber_Akuma> PC133*
[07:49] <grawity> Uand: You need to tell us what's your problem.
[07:49] <Uand> i stuck with 640X320 resultion
[07:49] <Uand> and i cant change this!
[07:49] <roflparrot> hello again richardcavell
[07:49] <Uand> 640X480*
[07:49] <Alex___> Drumroll: I've never had a crash with XP or Vista, but Vista runs slower. So I liked XP better. =P
[07:49] <dragon_> erikk71: http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23
[07:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Alex___: don't quote me, but I heard crunchgear mention that win7 ran better than xp on some netbooks....
[07:50] <OttifantSir> Alex___: You never turned on your machine?
[07:50] <Cyber_Akuma> though MS IS aiming for netbooks with it so I wouldent be surprised
[07:50] <dragon_> !ot
[07:50] <Alex___> OttifantSir:huh?
[07:50] <richardcavell> roflparrot: hi
[07:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Especially since the install dvd is designed to be easy to put on a usb drive
[07:50] <Uand> i stuck with 640X480 resultion
[07:50] <Uand> and i cant change this!
[07:51] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: I'm more of a desktop man ;) I love raw power =P
[07:51] <Condoulo> can I move items in the GNOME menu from one sub-menu to another?
[07:51] <Cyber_Akuma> ...
[07:51] <Cyber_Akuma> this IS a desktop
[07:51] <Cyber_Akuma> my laptop is the one im running windows/linux on.... and sadly more powerul
[07:51] <Uand> ??
[07:51] <Uand> i stuck with 640X480 resultion
[07:51] <Uand> ??
[07:51] <andrew_> ok...how do i use the cube?
[07:51] <Uand> i stuck with 640X480 resultion
[07:51] <Cyber_Akuma> its a dual core 1.7ghz amd system with 4 gigs of ddr2 ram
[07:51] <FloodBot3> Uand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51] <Alex___> I thought you were referring to one of those mini netbook thingamajigers?
[07:51] <erikk71> did anyone waych british open
[07:52] <Cyber_Akuma> Oh
[07:52] <Uand> grawity: ?
[07:52] <Drumroll> Alex___: Maybe, but as I said, 7 is supposed to be the best of both in one.  Only time will tell though.  So far though, I'm digging Ubuntu because it'll do all the fancy stuff that 7 will with ease.  The only POSSIBLE reason to switch back was if 7 was just SOOOO amazing that tons of people went back and Linux lost major support.  But...  I don't see that happening anytime soon.
[07:52] <Cyber_Akuma> Yeah, I though you were responding to my desktop specs
[07:52] <Alex___> Does anyone know how to make dvd::rip make a VOB all in one file instead of splitting it into 1 gig segments?
[07:52] <Cyber_Akuma> think of it this way Drumroll
[07:52] <andrew__> hello
[07:52] <Cyber_Akuma> epeople HAVE to upgrade soon from xp
[07:52] <andrew__> need a little help using compriz
[07:53] <Cyber_Akuma> including major corporations
[07:53] <Cyber_Akuma> the chances of these going to linux or osx are low. ESPECIALLY corporations
[07:53] <Alex___> Drumroll: Unfortunatly I can't get away from windows. I do all the Crysis and Witcher etc. All the newest games =P
[07:53] <Cyber_Akuma> especialyl with 64bit apps
[07:53] <Cyber_Akuma> they won't be goign to vista
[07:53] <andrew__> don't know how to get the Cube effect to do its thing
[07:53] <erikk71> i got anyyoed with virus problem
[07:53] <Uand> how can i detect my Screen ?
[07:53] <Cyber_Akuma> Right now my Xubuntu livecd is doing something very dangerous
[07:53] <grawity> andrew__: In the Cube settings should be a tab for keyboard shortcuts.
[07:54] <Cyber_Akuma> moving, resisizing left, and resizing right my vista partition at the same time XD
[07:54] <erikk71> wat u mean dangerous
[07:54] <andrew__> ok...cool...brb
[07:54] <Threetimes> bucky: Since I do not have a tiglusb module, how do I install it?
[07:54] <OttifantSir> Alex___: You said you never had a crash with Windows. In my own experience, from Windows 3.0 to Windows 7, you can't have turned on your machine.
[07:54] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: Now... don't quote ME on this... but according to one of my teachers... He thinks Linux will end up winning because it runs a high percentage of servers. And he thinks everything is moving to cloud computing which means it all goes to the linux servers.
[07:54] <erikk71> u need to have spare hard drive
[07:54] <bucky> Threetimes: i'm not sure that's the missing element...
[07:54] <Cyber_Akuma> servers are mostly linux, yes
[07:54] <Cyber_Akuma> but, servers are a small percentage of computrrs
[07:55] <nomad77> why don't you guys take it to ubuntu-offtopic or #windows if its avail.
[07:55] <Alex___> OttifantSir: I've only used XP and Vista. and I have had one crash on XP... and I never turn my comp off lol
[07:55] <grawity> Cyber_Akuma: I have read on oldnewthing that some companies still have 16-bit apps written in Visual Basic, or even DOS-based apps, that they absolutely must need to work on the OS they use.
[07:55] <Drumroll> Alex___: WINE FTW!  I've been playing a ton of the latest games on my Linux system VIA WINE and even better than on Windows to boot! :P
[07:55] <Cyber_Akuma> majority of home systems AND majority of workstations (which likely make up the biggest amoutn of pcs) are windows
[07:55] <erikk71> servers i thought alot were freebsd
[07:55] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: We're talking about when everything moves to cloud computing
[07:55] <Uand> hello /
[07:55] <Uand> ?
[07:55] <Uand> anyone can help me ?
[07:56] <bucky> Threetimes: look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=912717
[07:56] <Alex___> Drumroll: Hmm... I'll have to try it out more.
[07:56] <Cyber_Akuma> It will never be a 100% trasition
[07:56] <Alex___> Uand: What's the problem?
[07:56] <roflparrot> Uand: Please ask your question again, with good grammar.
[07:56] <erikk71> freebsd still handles yahoo an msn
[07:56] <Cammy> I'm using an Amiga
[07:56] <grawity> OttifantSir: I can confirm that Windows XP was quite stable for me. (I care about what I install.)
[07:56] <OttifantSir> nomad77: Yeah, you're right. Will shut up on this now. But a LITTLE ranting now and then is good. Back to helping people... :-D
[07:56] <Cammy> Because my Ubuntu PC crapped itself
[07:56] <Uand> ubuntu cant detect my Screen
[07:56] <grawity> roflparrot: Dude, this is #ubuntu. Good grammar is over there in ##linux
[07:56] <nomad77> Uand: try looking in system,restricted drivers maybe. whats your graphics card
[07:56] <Cyber_Akuma> cgi studios, dev studios, and serious gamers will still want their own system
[07:56] <Uand> GeForce 5200 fx
[07:56] <Cyber_Akuma> which will likely be more powerful than their share of the cloud
[07:56] <Alex___> I agree
[07:56] <Cammy> And the Windows partition was overrun by a virus
[07:57] <Alex___> But the average consumer
[07:57] <Uand> it works some mintus ago
[07:57] <Uand> i use the ccms
[07:57] <grawity> Cammy: Like, a physical Amiga?
[07:57] <Alex___> which is what? 80%? 90%?
[07:57] <Cyber_Akuma> by then I dont see the point of a computer
[07:57] <Cammy> Yeah, a 17 year old A1200
[07:57] <Cyber_Akuma> for the average consumer
[07:57] <Cyber_Akuma> they will just be using cloud cellphones
[07:57] <roflparrot> grawity: good point
[07:57] <grawity> Cammy: Hmm. Do you think I could make IRC work on WinUAE?
[07:57] <Cammy> It's the only way I can chat while I wait for the two-hour long installation of Ubuntu
[07:57] <Cammy> Yeah easy
[07:57] <Cyber_Akuma> the tegra chip costs $99 and can do 1080p video, had dual cpu and dual gpu, tegra phoens are coming out THIS YEAR
[07:58] <Cammy> Download AmiKit and it has WookieChat preinstalled
[07:58] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: That's on a PHONE??
[07:58] <Uand> why u dont answer?
[07:58] <Cyber_Akuma> there are already digicams in japan with picorojectors that can almost project a 50 inch 720p image
[07:58] <MrPiracy> does anyone know how i can set awn to be used only in gnome?
[07:58] <Drumroll> Alex___: WINE makes the programs think that they are running on a Windows OS eve though they're not so that you can load them onto your Linux system and play them from it.  And since at this point most Linux OSes are far lighter in resource requirements than Windows 7, it'll allow you to play your games better than ever before.
[07:58] <Cyber_Akuma> I 100% assure you
[07:58] <Cammy> IT's like a Workbench setup for UAE. Or there's AROS, the open-source AmigaOS
[07:58] <Uand> why u dont answer?
[07:58] <nomad77> Uand: try this http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-an-ubuntu-9.04-desktop-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200
[07:58] <grawity> Cammy: And if I want to use the real Workbench?
[07:58] <roflparrot> Cyber_Akuma: I think that the money makers will always find ways to make the world dependent upon them
[07:58] <nomad77> it has pics
[07:58] <Cyber_Akuma> n less than 5 years there will be, out on the consumer market, cellphones that cna project probably 42 inch screne 720p images
[07:58] <Alex___> Drumroll: I know about wine, but the 3 programs I tried on it a while back didn't work, so I never touched it again.
[07:59] <Cyber_Akuma> theres yoru cloud computer :)
[07:59] <Cyber_Akuma> one sec Alex___
[07:59] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: And I thought the new enV3 was nice =P
[07:59] <Cyber_Akuma> have two iunteresting links to show you about that
[07:59] <Cammy> Yeah, you can install it all yourself if you know your way around, just download the Workbench ADF images
[07:59] <Uand> no!!
[07:59] <Uand> my prblem is that my PC cant detect my Screen!!
[07:59] <grawity> Hmm, I seem to have Workbench 3.1
[07:59] <erikk71> amiga needs to go x86 or 64
[07:59] <Uand> thats why it uses 640X480 resulution
[08:00] <Cammy> My Ubuntu 9 CD has an error on ONE file, so it refuses to install, so I have to use my Ubuntu 8 CD :(
[08:00] <Cammy> Yeah, 3.1 is sufficient
[08:00] <KoolD> join ##php
[08:00] <roflparrot> Uand, have you tried googling the problem on the Ubuntu forum?
[08:00] <erikk71> thats wat 90 percernt of desktop users are running
[08:00]  * grawity googles for LinuxUAE
[08:00] <Threetimes> bucky: that's definately not my problem. He doesn't get any error like mine: "tilp: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libticables2.so.1: undefined symbol: usb_debug"
[08:00] <roflparrot> most issues are covered in threads
[08:01] <nomad77> Uand: so install the nvidia driver.the link shows how to enable it ignore the compiz stuff
[08:01] <Threetimes> brb
[08:01] <Cammy> erikk71: 90% of desktop users are using 640x480 still?
 Cyber_Akuma: That's on a PHONE?? <--- this tegra1 chip will be for phones AND netbooks, it uses max 1.25 watts of power, usually under 1 watt, it can power an mp3 player for DAYS on a single charge. And on top of this, its dual cpu, dual gpu, and several otehr processors. Tegra based phones will be out by late 2009...... and it gets better :)
[08:01] <Cyber_Akuma> tegra2 has been announced for 2010, twice as powerful
[08:01] <Uand> i cant goole
[08:01] <Uand> i cant use it
[08:01] <Cammy> I guess it must include PCs in poor countries
[08:01] <erikk71> i mean use intel x86 cpu
[08:01] <Uand> with this resulution
[08:01] <Uand> !!
[08:01] <Cammy> Oh
[08:01] <erikk71> not power pc
[08:01] <Cyber_Akuma> http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/06/19/we-ask-what-is-tegra-and-why-does-it-matter/
[08:01] <Cyber_Akuma> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNu4CluFOcw
[08:01] <FloodBot3> Cyber_Akuma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <Drumroll> Alex___: Games have had more success on WINE than any other type of programs so far.  I think they even have a version of WINE specifically target at games, but I forget what it's called at the moment.  I ran Left4Dead on Ubuntu here, just a day ago. :P
[08:01] <Cyber_Akuma> two very interesting links about the tegra :)
[08:02] <Cammy> I'm using a Motorola 68030 50Mhz
[08:02] <roflparrot> Uand, that is unfortunate and amusing.
[08:02] <Uand> i cant install the driver
[08:02] <erikk71> unix has year 2038 problem
[08:02] <Alex___> Drumroll: Hmm... Now I have to get another bigger HDD >.> lol
[08:02] <Uand> but it already installed
[08:02] <kutio> Hey, I have a bug with ubuntu jaunty, When I display a notification, this notification appears as a GtkMessageDialog, with the same code with debian I don't have this problem, I think there is a bug in notify-osd, what do you think about it ?
[08:02] <Uand> can u google that for me ?
[08:02] <dravekx> I need to change a file in the opt directory, but I dont have permission.. how do I edit and save the file without having permission to do so????
[08:02] <bucky> Threetimes: you should /join #ModernCalcs there's only 5 people in there right now but they'd prolly know the answer right off if they are awake
[08:03] <grawity> erikk71: By the time 2038 comes, most of us will be using completely-64-bit stuff.
[08:03] <erikk71> do u mean
[08:03] <grawity> dravekx: If you opened it with gedit, open this way instead: gksu gedit /opt/blah/blah
[08:03] <erikk71> unix will be no more
[08:03] <dravekx> ahhh. kk.
[08:03] <nomad77> so run nvidia-xconfig then nvidia-settings via sudo set it properly
[08:03] <Cyber_Akuma> errr, got those links Alex___? :)
[08:03] <grawity> erikk71: No, 64-bit Unix.
[08:03] <nomad77> !nvidia
[08:03] <Uand> here
[08:03] <Uand> Just went through this. To get the screen detected I needed to edit the grub boot options and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options then the screen got detected properly.
[08:03] <Uand> its says
[08:04] <FloodBot3> Uand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <grawity> erikk71: Like, with 64-bit timestamps. (At least I hope so...)
[08:04] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: *Drools* And why do you need 1080P on a little cell phone screen. lol
[08:04] <Uand> how do i edit the grub ?
[08:04] <Cyber_Akuma> Alex___: let me put it this way
[08:04] <Uand> Just went through this. To get the screen detected I needed to edit the grub boot options and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options then the screen got detected properly.
[08:04] <Cyber_Akuma> the current tegra dev kits have dual hdmi out
[08:04] <Cyber_Akuma> :)
[08:04] <andrew_> ok...still can't seem to use cube effect...any help is much appreciated
[08:04] <erikk71> every one says unix kernel will faDE AWAY\
[08:04] <Uand> Just went through this. To get the screen detected I needed to edit the grub boot options and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options then the screen got detected properly.
[08:05] <Uand> answer plz!
[08:05] <nomad77> Uand: use sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:05] <erikk71> the hurd is joke
[08:05] <Uand> thx i try
[08:05] <Cyber_Akuma> I can't believe how smooth the video in youtube works though, the 3d rendering or keeping up with the video is not lagged at ALL
[08:05] <kutio> Hey, I have a bug with ubuntu jaunty, When I display a notification, this notification appears as a GtkMessageDialog, with the same code with debian I don't have this problem, I think there is a bug in notify-osd, what do you think about it ?
[08:05] <andrew__> hello
[08:05] <andrew__> trying to use cube effect in compriz...no success
[08:05] <andrew__> yet
[08:05] <andrew__> please help
[08:06] <erikk71> I tried TUDOS cd
[08:06] <erikk71> interesting cd
[08:06] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: You know... I've never even watched any movies etc in HD on my desktop rofl...
[08:07] <erikk71> when will firefox 3.5 be able upgrade firefox 3.0
[08:07] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: The only graphic intensive thing I do is Crysis ;)
[08:07] <grawity> erikk71: On 9.10 (Karmic), or if you use Ubuntuzilla. (Or if you install 3.5 manually.)
[08:07] <andrew__> slart...you still her?
[08:07] <andrew__> here even
[08:07] <Slart> andrew__: sure
[08:08] <erikk71> shiretoko
[08:08] <andrew__> any advice for how to use the cube?
[08:08] <erikk71> is wats it branded as
[08:08] <Cyber_Akuma> alex: videogames will start to have hd fmvs :P
[08:08] <erikk71> is 9.10 a beta release
[08:08] <Cyber_Akuma> and di you see the video? its not the quality of the rendering, but rather HOW its rendering it
[08:08] <Slart> andrew__: set 4 horizontal desktops.. that's in the general settings area in ccsm, then enable the cube plugin and set a keyboard key for it
[08:09] <Cyber_Akuma> its augmented reality! displaying 3d buildings in realtime over a flat 2d image
[08:09] <Cyber_Akuma> and even putting npcs walking around on it
[08:09] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: I've only watched a short part of the vid. was mostly reading
[08:09] <andrew__> ok...brb
[08:09] <andrew__> thanks
[08:09] <Cyber_Akuma> did you at least get to the part where he shoots zombies? :P
[08:09] <Cammy> My Ubuntu installation has been sitting at 90% "Configuring hardware..." for about ten minutes
[08:09] <roflparrot> Uand:  #nvidia and #ggi might be helpful to you
[08:10] <Cyber_Akuma> Basically, hes pointing his tegra based phone on a flat 2d image.... the phone is rendering 3d builsinds, civilans, and zombies over the video of the 3d in realtime, and theres no lag as he moves the phone around
[08:10] <Cyber_Akuma> buildings*
[08:10] <roflparrot> Uand:   I see you are playing with the bootloader, I was just suggesting channels that might be helpful
[08:10] <erikk71> its still in aplha
[08:10] <Alex___> Drumroll: According to appdb.winehq.org Crysis doesn't run on 9.04 on wine =(
[08:11] <DJones> erikk71: Its still an Alpha release
[08:11] <Cyber_Akuma> ouch alex :(
[08:11] <Cyber_Akuma> 9.04 is like, starting ot become the vista of ubuntu
[08:11] <Cyber_Akuma> broken ati support, app incompabilities...
[08:11] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: I know, right? lol... 8.10 just worked for me... 9.04 has taken more work... lol
[08:12] <Cyber_Akuma> I have another system that is still 8.04
[08:12] <Cyber_Akuma> because 8.10 is rpoted to not work on it.....
[08:12] <erikk71> i have debian live cd with lxde desktop
[08:12] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: I can't wait until Google comes out with Chrome for Linux
[08:12] <Cyber_Akuma> dunno about 9.04
[08:12] <DJones> erikk71: Beta is due 1st October - Full release schedule is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[08:12] <Tengu> hello world
[08:12] <roflparrot> I still use 8.10. Laziness more than anything else.
[08:12] <nevyn> Alex___: they ported it from linux
[08:12] <nevyn> it's called konqueror ;)
[08:12] <Cyber_Akuma> I still say Google Chrome OS is a mistake
[08:12] <Cyber_Akuma> they should just make a pc version of android
[08:13] <nevyn> nah.
[08:13] <Alex___> I'll try it when it comes out... but IDK about it.
[08:13] <Cyber_Akuma> heh
[08:13] <R0ncoToke> Alex___, There is a chrome for linux.
[08:13] <Cyber_Akuma> I burned a livecd of an interesting project
[08:13] <grawity> nevyn: IMHO, Konqueror is like Internet Explorer of Linux. Fugly, and is integrated to the file manager.
[08:13] <Cyber_Akuma> Google Android LiveCD x86 ver 0.02
[08:13] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[08:13] <DJones> Alex___: There is a release of chromium-browser which is what the chrome browser is based on in a ppa
[08:13] <Tengu> question : using jaunty (up-to-date), is there a way to drag a window to another desktop? (i.e. I click on window's title bar, drag it to the right, and when it reaches the edge, hop, it goes to the next desktop on the right)
[08:13] <Alex___> Are you talking about the pre-alpha one R0ncoToke?
[08:13] <Cyber_Akuma> woudlent boot on my laptop but strangely booted fien on my mac mini
[08:13] <R0ncoToke> Cyber_Akuma, I second you.
[08:13] <Tengu> I use a standard ubuntu with gnome.
[08:13] <grawity> Tengu: Doesn't it do that automatically?
[08:13] <Tengu> grawity: nope :(
[08:14] <Tengu> and I didn't find where to set it up
[08:14] <andrew__> I cannot find where to assign keys to launch cube
[08:14] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: So... how exactly does it work going from like 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 etc?
[08:14] <roflparrot> Tengu i can do that in 8.10
[08:14] <nevyn> grawity: not in kde4 ;)
[08:14] <Tengu> I know xfce can do it, but we have to activate this behaviour.
[08:14] <roflparrot> gnome
[08:14] <Tengu> roflparrot: with compiz maybe ?
[08:14] <grawity> Tengu: If you use Compiz, the compizconfig-settings-manager app can edit pretty much all settings.
[08:14] <Cyber_Akuma> 8.04 I didnt use much
[08:14] <roflparrot> Yeah with compiz
[08:14] <Cyber_Akuma> ... no wait
[08:14] <Cyber_Akuma> that was 7.10
[08:14] <Tengu> grawity: I prefere not to use it....
[08:14] <Cyber_Akuma> 7.10 was a nightmare for me
[08:14] <Tengu> compiz effects are so.... lame -.-
[08:14] <R0ncoToke> Alex___, I was talking about Chromium.
[08:14] <erikk71> mandriva is joke
[08:15] <Cyber_Akuma> wifi, 3d card, sound, nothign worked
[08:15] <Cyber_Akuma> no matter what I tried
[08:15] <grawity> Tengu: You don't have to use any effects.
[08:15] <FloodBot3> Cyber_Akuma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <erikk71> very slow installing
[08:15] <Cyber_Akuma> 8.04 added sound, and with 8.10, magically EVERYTHING worked, 3d rendering, wifi... it was awsome
[08:15] <Tengu> grawity: mmm. will give it a try. which package do I have to install to set compiz behaviour ?
[08:15] <Cyber_Akuma> ......... then 9.04 broke 3d support again :(
[08:15] <_Apple_> any ideas why the modelines I added aren't working?
[08:15] <grawity> Tengu: I just told you - compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:15] <Tengu> grawity: thanks.
[08:15] <roflparrot> grawity is right, you can select any efects you like, such as dropping windows on new workspaces
[08:16] <AlexisM> hi. I've got some problems using gmailfs. Anyone knows it well ?
[08:16] <andrew__> slart...again...sorry to bug you
[08:16] <grawity> Tengu: Btw, offtopic: If you want, you can use Xfce's xfwm on GNOME.
[08:16] <roflparrot> You don't need to select the glittering exit or whatever
[08:16] <Slart> andrew__: no worries
[08:16] <andrew__> I cannot find where to enable keystrokes to make cube work
[08:16] <Alex___> Cyber_Akuma: The only way I've ever had wi-fi without doing anything in Linux is if I plug an ethernet cable into a Linsys Wireless-G Game Adapter
[08:17]  * Cyber_Akuma wants a WinMo7 based tegra2 phone wth a picoprojector and wvga screen
[08:17] <Cyber_Akuma> my dreamphone :()
[08:17] <Cyber_Akuma> wifi worked out of the box with 8.10
[08:17] <grawity> andrew__: Hmm. They might be in the Viewport Switcher plugin
[08:17] <Alex___> Not on my card
[08:17] <andrew__> brb
[08:17] <grawity> andrew__: Oh, and "Rotate Cube".
[08:18] <Cyber_Akuma> heh, im surprised how open Windows Mobile is on phones actually, I can overwrite and modify any file
[08:18] <Cyber_Akuma> I actually replaced the dialer on my old phone becuse I didnt like it
[08:18] <Cyber_Akuma> just replace phone.exe XD
[08:18] <erikk71> im surprised minix is being developed
[08:18] <_Apple_> any ideas why the modelines I added aren't working?
[08:18] <erikk71> still
[08:18] <erikk71> it crashes alot
[08:18] <Cyber_Akuma> btw, what do you think about ONlive?
[08:19] <Cyber_Akuma> I honestly think they ar elying, I dont see how thats physically possible
[08:19] <erikk71> no wonder linux wrote linux kernel
[08:19] <sanmarcos> how can I generate es_ES locales?
[08:19] <erikk71> linus
[08:19] <Cyber_Akuma> you mean linux?
[08:19] <Cyber_Akuma> heh
[08:19] <Cyber_Akuma> ....
[08:19] <Cyber_Akuma> linus*
[08:19] <FloodBot3> Cyber_Akuma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <Cyber_Akuma> wow
[08:19] <roflparrot> fslewl
[08:19] <roflparrot> haha
[08:19] <sanmarcos> shit, so much crap is broken in ubuntu..
[08:20] <erikk71> im surprised mo has not forked minix
[08:20] <Cyber_Akuma> you think your ubuntu is bad
[08:20] <Cyber_Akuma> try my ubuntu 8.04 install on my ps3, now THATS broken
[08:20] <Tengu> grawity: oh yeah. I didn't thought about it.
[08:20] <Cyber_Akuma> course, it dosen't help that im stuck at like 512x400 or whatever because I odnt have a hdtv
[08:20] <sanmarcos> pygtk, gtk, locales, upstart with vmware tools, libnotify making icons look like crap
[08:20] <erikk71> atheos was forked we have syllable os
[08:20] <sanmarcos> should I continue?
[08:20] <sanmarcos> each release is a total pain
[08:20] <dub> is packages.ubuntu.com generally available via http?
[08:21] <erikk71> mandrake was fork of redhat
[08:21] <grawity> sanmarcos: If you came here not for helping or for seeking help, please shut up and use (Debian|Mint|Slackware|Arch|whatever).
[08:21] <grawity> dub: Yes.
[08:21] <dub> grawity, do you know if there is an outage?
[08:21] <kraut> moin
[08:21] <j> hello, just got kubuntu installed, shows my wlan card as unavailable, i put in the ssid, wep key, checked the auto-connect option, it's like i need it to search and connect now....
[08:21] <mrpinky> hi :D does anybody know where i can download/install the package "libmozjs1d"?
[08:21] <sanmarcos> I have to support ubuntu in my software, it is not helpful when you break all PyGTK applications by shipping a shit version of Python/PyGTK and... modify libnotify to break all the apps that depend on it
[08:21] <roflparrot> moin moin
[08:21] <erikk71> thing will linux kernel u modify however u like as long as u release the changes
[08:22] <erikk71> thats great thing about linux
[08:22] <roflparrot> you are only obliged to if you distribute the product
[08:23] <erikk71> bsd license u do watever u want
[08:23] <roflparrot> your customers are entitled to the source
[08:23] <Slart> andrew__: ah.. sorry about that.. I don't get popups unless you put my nick somewhere in the message
[08:23] <roflparrot> is BSD on the wtfpl?
[08:24] <dub> is anyone able to reach http://packages.ubuntu.com ? (im getting no response from more than one network)
[08:24] <Drumroll> Alex__: http://www.junauza.com/2008/12/yes-linux-can-run-crysis.html
[08:24] <erikk71> wonders if atheos was strpped down version of linux kernel
[08:24] <Slart> andrew__: it's called keybindings.. somewhere in the cube plugin settings there should be a keybinding option
[08:25] <Slart> andrew__: the plugin is called "Rotate Cube".. it's in the Desktop section
[08:25] <Slart> andrew__: you'll probably need both Rotate Cube and Desktop Cube enabled
[08:25] <erikk71> i realize now a days speed is big need
[08:25] <Guest45543> Hi there.
[08:26] <AlexisM> hi
[08:26] <erikk71> has anyone had any virus problem
[08:26] <andrew__> ok...both enabled...now to that keybinding
[08:26] <richardcavell> erikk71: virus problem with what?
[08:26] <erikk71> on ubuntu
[08:26] <Slart> andrew__: in the "Rotate Cube" settings... go to the "Bindings" page/tab
[08:26] <tavi> hy
[08:26] <Guest45543> Whoa, what the heck?
[08:26] <tavi> i have a new keyboard
[08:27] <erikk71> i know there is virus scanner
[08:27] <tavi> and the £ is the sign at 3 instead of other
[08:27] <Guest45543> Um... I'm having a problem with NickServ.
[08:27] <tavi> what i cand do?
[08:27] <Guest45543> I can't seem to indentify with my username.
[08:27] <Slart> Guest45543: ask in #freenode
[08:27] <Guest45543> Thanks. Will do.
[08:27] <Tengu> humpf...
[08:27] <Alex___> How can I figure out what driver I'm using on my gfx card?
[08:28] <Tengu> grawity: do you have a link on how to change gnome default WM ?
[08:28] <Tengu> I guess I have to replace metacity
[08:28] <grawity> Tengu: Just enable "desktop effects" in the Appearance settings, it'll automatically enable Compiz.
[08:28] <Drumroll> erikk71: Avast! makes a virus scan program for Linux, but you're EXTREMELY unlikely to need such a scanner on a Linux-based OS for the time being.
[08:28] <Tengu> grawity: don't want compiz in fact.....
[08:28] <grawity> Tengu: Why not?
[08:28] <Guest11734> Tengu in your terminal : sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:29] <soreau> ! virus | erikk71
[08:29] <grawity> Guest11734: That will install the entire Xfce pack, not just Xfwm
[08:29] <Tengu> using it makes me lose all my virtual desktops.
[08:29] <Tengu> Guest11734: thanks.
[08:29] <grawity> Tengu: Compiz has virtual desktops too
[08:29] <Tengu> grawity: yeah.... I know. but broken here, and all those effects, addons, plugins... even if I stop them all, it's heavier.
[08:29] <bullgard4> There are opened 6 Terminals in Guake. There is no GNOME Terminal open. Why does Ubuntu 9.04 13 processes 'bash'? 6 are 'stopped' and 7 'sleeping'. Does Guake need 2 processes 'bash' per TErminal?
[08:30] <p-f> Has anyone else here experienced rendering problems in Matlab on ubuntu? Any 3d figure ends up with a black background and some ghost versions of itself when I rotate it. Pretty much all text also gets garbled. I'm guessing it may be a driver issue, but I'm not sure.
[08:30] <Guest11734> grawity yes but he should be a beginner so ...
[08:30] <erikk71> oncok
[08:30] <j> !bcm43
[08:30] <Drumroll> Alex___: What graphics card does your computer use?  I take you saw the link and are looking into it now? lol
[08:30] <j> !bcm
[08:30] <Slart> p-f: mm.. matlab never really played nice with my linux box
[08:30] <grawity> Tengu: In gconf-editor, it's /desktop/gnome/session/required_components
[08:30] <erikk71> plus linux has 3 percent of desktop users
[08:30] <Spikemcc> j > sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[08:30] <Slart> p-f: when it comes to graphics, that is
[08:31] <Tengu> Guest11734: not really beginner, in fact. but I don't use gnome every day, I prefere awesome.... but at work, I _have_ to use gnome -.-
[08:31] <j> Spikemcc: thank you, you know the name of the tools too?
[08:31] <Alex___> Drumroll: ATI Radeon HD 4850... I just downloaded the newest driver... but I wanted to know how to find out what driver version it's using right now.
[08:31] <Spikemcc> I use it too ...
[08:31] <erikk71> linux is thought of as os for geeks
[08:31] <p-f> Slart, the strange thing is it doesn't work well regardless of the renderer I use... be it opengl hardware, software or Iforgotthename
[08:31] <erikk71> in some people eyes
[08:32] <ILMAN7> hi i wanna record my desktop
[08:32] <ILMAN7> how can i do it ?
[08:32] <Spikemcc> erikk71 as a first tough yes, but you will find that it's not really fully true
[08:32] <p-f> Slart, what video card do you have on that box? I recall not having any problems on the lab computers at university...
[08:32] <Tengu> grawity: thanks. done.... let's give it a try.
[08:32] <grawity> Tengu: But if you change it to xfwm4, you will probably need to create a new file in /usr/share/applications/xfwm4.desktop -- mine is http://sprunge.us/UWZN
[08:32] <Slart> p-f: not at all? I sometimes had to just repeat the plotting... it would work 70% of the tries or something like that
[08:32] <Slart> p-f: nvidia 8800gtx
[08:32] <Spikemcc> ILMAN7 recordmydesktop , istanbul or xvidcap choose your poison
[08:32] <ILMAN7> hi
[08:32] <Alex___> erikk71: I think some parts of windows are more complicated and some parts of linux are
[08:32] <erikk71> i am sure with window 7 on the way
[08:32] <ILMAN7> oh thank you
[08:33] <ILMAN7> which one should i chose ?
[08:33] <erikk71> linux will grow more
[08:33] <p-f> Slart, well, it sort of kind of works once in a while but I don't know why
[08:33] <Spikemcc> Alex___ with an old Ati don't go after the LTS but a recent one it's ok ...
[08:33] <Alex___> Spikemcc: sorry... what? lol
[08:34] <boonanas> is their a "view" option for browsing folders of images, so i can have a panel that tells me when the photo was taken using the files exif data when i click on it?
[08:34] <erikk71> i bet in 5 years freedos will hav freedos32 going
[08:34] <grawity> erikk71: and lose compatibility with MS-DOS?
[08:34] <Spikemcc> p-f mostly nvidia cards but Ati begin to have good free drivers and you don't seem to need big 3d
[08:34] <erikk71> no
[08:35] <erikk71> freedos will be there
[08:35] <erikk71> acarchne users
[08:35] <andrew_> ok
[08:35] <erikk71> who like surfing internet in plain dos
F1 is very very bad!
[08:35] <Drumroll> Alex___: I assume you mean in Ubuntu, correct?
[08:35] <grawity> andrew_: why?
[08:35] <Alex___> Drumroll: 9.04
[08:36] <Alex___> Drumroll: 9.04 ubuntu
[08:36] <Spikemcc> for the one that seek to change is WM try openbox in crunchbang linux or lxde Desktop manager that use openbox under ubuntu ...
[08:36] <p-f> Slart, I guess I'll try more recent drivers just in case (if there are any, that is)
[08:36] <andrew_> hello
[08:37] <grawity> andrew_: Ctrl-Alt-F7 takes you back to X11.
[08:37] <erikk71> i see aol is killing plug on compuserve
[08:37] <Guest99976> I tried that keystroke and everything went black and wouldn't come back...had to power down and reboot
[08:37] <Slart> p-f: it doesn't really feel like a driver problem.. more like a "mathworks doesn't care about linux"-problem =/
[08:37] <erikk71> aol ruined alot of wondowe
[08:37] <erikk71> pc
[08:37] <Drumroll> Alex___: I'm not sure...  You probably have to use the specific drivers built for Linux from ATI which is part of the problem ATI doesn't do well in Linux...
[08:37] <Guest99976> why do I keep failing to identify in time??
[08:37] <j> hey guys, i am missing something here, i have made this work before, installed b43-fwcutter, still getting siocsifflags error...can't remeber what eles is needed.
[08:37] <grawity> Guest99976: Ctrl-Alt-(F1-F7) switch virtual consoles. The first six are command-line, the seventh is GUI.
[08:38] <Alex___> Drumroll: I just want to know how I can find out what driver I currently have installed.
[08:38] <Guest99976> ok...well newbiw mistake
[08:38] <p-f> Slart, :/ just curious, do your problems look anything like this? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=56480
[08:39] <Guest99976> cube rules!!
[08:39] <Guest99976> I actually have a sphere
[08:39] <Spikemcc> j do you have the firmware added ?
[08:39] <ahorner> Hi, I'm a web developer and I was wondering if there was anyway that I create a launcher or something that when a file was dropped on it, it would upload the file in a multipart http form to a certain website?
[08:39] <Slart> p-f: nope.. I just got a blank white plot window
left-click...that's the move!
[08:39] <Guest99976> slart...you there?
[08:39] <grawity> ahorner: It might be possible with a Java applet (I've seen box.net do this), but with pure HTML - no.
[08:39] <p-f> Slart, oh, hrm
[08:39] <Spikemcc> j b43-fwcutter only can be installed by the terminal correctly ...
[08:40] <Slart> Guest99976: yes?
[08:40] <grawity> Guest99976: In your Xchat, go to Network List, choose Freenode, click Edit, enter your password there.
[08:40] <j> Spikemcc: i don't think it is added correctly, if i remeber right, the b43-fwcutter is the firmware, lsmod | grep b43 shows running b43, mac, etc, but wlan0 not showing in ifconfig, but is in ifconfig -a
[08:40] <Guest99976> Slart:  This is Andrew_...but for some reason I keep not identifying in time for my preferre username
[08:40] <ahorner> grawity: I was actually thinking something along the lines of maybe python. An icon on a panel or the desktop that would just send the file as post-data to a serverside script such as something like Imageshack.
[08:41] <grawity> ahorner: Ah, a desktop application. That wouldn't be very hard
[08:41] <ahorner> grawity: What language?
[08:41] <Slart> Guest99976: ah.. how's the cube coming along?
[08:41] <mrpinky> hey, how can i found out what is my ubuntu version? i tried the "system -> about ubuntu" menu but it doesn't show it...
[08:41] <j> Spikemcc: i am fairly comfortable with the terminal, i wouldn't know how to do this any other way.
[08:41] <Slart> mrpinky: lsb_release -a in a terminal
[08:41] <mrpinky> Slart, thanks
[08:42] <Slart> mrpinky: it's listed in the about text too.. but it's kind of sneaky
[08:42] <justin__> hello
[08:42] <Drumroll> Alex___: That's what you have installed.  ATI's driver for Linux.   They only make one as far as I know.  The open source alternative does not support 3D.  Check the drivers in sytem-admin-hardware drivers and see which one is enabled for your card.  That might be why Compiz failed for you because you're using the open source driver that only supporst 2D?
[08:42] <Guest99976> salrt: it works, but is currently a sphere...can you tell me why i keep not identifying in time?  or better yet how I DO identify in time?
[08:42] <mrpinky> how can i / do i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[08:42] <ahorner> grawity: I was hoping maybe I would find something already created for Tinypic or some other image hosting site and just modify it.
[08:42] <Slart> mrpinky: just below the Ubuntu logo it says "Thank you for your interest in blablabla"
[08:43] <Slart> !upgrade | mrpinky
[08:43] <mrpinky> thanks
[08:43] <Slart> Guest99976: follow the advice grawity gave you
[08:44] <Alex___> "3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for ATI cards. This driver is required to fully utilise the 3D potential of some ATI graphics cards, as well as provide 2D acceleration of newer cards."
[08:44] <Alex___> 3D-accelerated proprietary graphics driver for ATI cards.This driver is required to fully utilise the 3D potential of some ATI graphics cards, as well as provide 2D acceleration of newer cards.
[08:44] <Alex___> oops
[08:44] <Alex___> my fault
[08:45] <lorenzosu> I can't connect to an Ubuntu box anymore. Till yesterday I could connect through LAN and VNC. Now I get asked for the first time a password and then eventually I get "Too many security failures" error
[08:45] <Spikemcc> j in the terminal do : 1- sudo apt-get remove b43-fwcutter 2- lspci (check the version of your network card exactly) 3- check on linuxwireless website for b43 instructions
[08:45] <Drumroll> Alex___: So you have that one installed.  Remember, in Linux, you can't install the drivers provided on the sites because that's for a Windows OS.
[08:46] <Alex___> Drumroll: They HAVE a linux version on the site >.> lol
[08:46] <nexsja> Hi, anybody here owns an Asus M50VC laptop?
[08:46] <Spikemcc> for old Atis > ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS for recent ones > 9.04
[08:46] <brwnphysicist> Hey guys. I am attempting to setup wireless masquerading, however, nothing passes through my iptables rules at all, from connected clients.
[08:46] <Tengu> grawity: oh, thanks.
[08:46] <j> Spikemcc: got the firmware in, thanks.  i rushed through and didn't let the extract finish properly, seconf run, worked. it is scanning for dhcp now, without the error.
[08:46] <andrew_> slart:  Grawity:  am confused...haven't been using a password
[08:46] <brwnphysicist> Can anyone give me some pointers on my iptables rules for masquerading?
[08:46] <Guest38155> slart: failed again
[08:47] <Spikemcc> nexsja what do you need ?
[08:47] <grawity> Guest38155: Do you even own the nick "andrew_" ?
[08:47] <nexsja> Spikemcc touchpad :D
[08:47] <nexsja> and other multimedia buttons :))
[08:47] <ceekays> I am trying to setup an tftp server for pxe booting. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04.I'm confused: What is the right file to configure for tftp to work "/etc/xinetd.d/conf/tftp" or "/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa"
[08:47] <Drumroll> Alex___: That's probably what the Linux version is.  The exact driver that already comes with Ubuntu.  They have it so that other Linux distros that don't have as many pieces of software included (like Ubuntu or Mandriva) can still get it for their OS.
[08:47] <Guest38155> grawity:  I guess not...it just autopopulated from my personal info settings
[08:48] <everettz> Does the accessible installer in 9.04 work?
[08:48] <Guest38155> grawity: so I used it
[08:48] <Tengu> grawity: ah, yeah, that works fine. thank you!
[08:48] <Alex___> Drumroll: All I'm trying to do is make sure I have the most recent driver installed... lol.
[08:49] <grawity> Guest38155: That's the problem with nick registration, all common names are taken by someone.
[08:49] <brwnphysicist> I have the iptables setup identically to the howtos however, i get no traffic through the firewall.
[08:49] <moymoy> Lingerance: heeey! you ARE in here.. xD
[08:49] <Spikemcc> nexsja the touchpad /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as to have informations of it inside ... for the rest I don't know ...
[08:49] <Spikemcc> has ...
[08:49] <Guest38155> grawity...so, how do I register a nick of my own?
[08:49] <nexsja> hm..
[08:50] <Drumroll> Alex___: As long as you're using the proprietary driver from ATI for Linux, it should be the right one.  Any documentation I find regarding ATI drivers says to use that one. *shrugs*
[08:50] <grawity> Guest38155: Pick a nick, change to it (by saying "/nick mynewnick"), and then use /msg nickserv register
[08:50] <nexsja> Spikemcc thanks, i'll check it out. By the way, if i want to write something of my own that interracts with the touchpad, say a program, what should i strat with?
[08:51] <Guest38155> grawity:  using the gui version of xchat
[08:51] <dhaval_> Help! GWget Crashes!
[08:51] <dhaval_> My entire system freezes
[08:51] <grawity> Guest38155: It's still the same.
[08:51] <Guest38155> grawity: ok...brb
[08:52] <dhaval_> hello?
[08:52] <dhaval_> bucky?
[08:52] <richardcavell> okay folks
[08:52] <richardcavell> I just upgraded my instructions on installing Ubuntu on a Mac laptop
[08:52] <bucky> dhaval_: what did i do now?
[08:52] <richardcavell> they're magnificent
[08:52] <dhaval_> Nothing, dude.
[08:53] <dhaval_> I need you!
[08:53] <richardcavell> grawity: I got ssh working
[08:53] <dhaval_> gwget crashes, I need your helP!
[08:53] <neda> hi all. what is the best latex editor in ubuntu?
[08:53] <dhaval_> as always.
[08:53] <neda> hi all. what is the best latex editor in ubuntu?
[08:53] <lorenzosu> I can't connect to an Ubuntu box anymore. Till yesterday I could connect through LAN and VNC. Now I get asked for the first time a password and then eventually I get "Too many security failures" error
[08:53] <KB1JWQ> neda: How non-loaded a question!
[08:54] <bucky> dhaval_: how about just using wget from a term
[08:54] <Spikemcc> Drumroll and Alex___ ubuntu hardy heron 8.04 LTS for old Atis cards !!! I don't tell it for nothing, I got one in my laptop so I'm on 8.04.2
[08:54] <bucky> richardcavell: how about your graphics?
[08:54] <Alex___> Spikemcc: I have their second newest card
[08:54] <richardcavell> bucky: I'm using the default driver. Performance isn't really an issue - I can't run games on this GPU anyway.
[08:54] <KB1JWQ> dhaval_: Or cURL?
[08:54] <ahorner> So.. I want to create a script of some kind (maybe set something as a launcher?) that will let me drag a file onto this launcher and send the file as post-data to my php script on my server. What language should I do this in, and has it already been done?
[08:55] <neda> KB1JWQ: what means non-lsaded?
[08:55] <Spikemcc> Alex___ try envyng on ubuntu 9.04 then
[08:55] <neda> KB1JWQ: what means non-loaded?
[08:55] <dhaval_> I used wget, and it worked fine, but Gwget is better since It acts like sort of a download manager.
[08:55] <richardcavell> neda: He's being sarcastic. He's saying your question is loaded
[08:55] <richardcavell> dhaval_: just use wget.
[08:55] <dhaval_> And one more question, I can't run Nautilus as su
[08:55] <dhaval_> yeah I did.
[08:55] <Spikemcc> I use it on the terminal on 8.04 to install mine ... envyng -t (to open it)
[08:55] <richardcavell> dhaval_: you need a download manager for wget?
[08:55] <j> is ubuntu going to overwrite my network settings from it's network manaager if i restart?
[08:55] <KB1JWQ> neda: Asking questions like that is akin to starting a flame war.  See "loaded question:
[08:55] <dhaval_> Not really,
[08:55] <dhaval_> nevermind richard
[08:56] <Spikemcc> you have to install envyng first ...
[08:56] <dhaval_> Nevermind, I'm comfortable with wget now
[08:56] <bucky> i get Please add -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 to your compile flags!  when i gcc -o hello hello.c  any ideas
[08:56] <dhaval_> How do i run nautilus as su?
[08:56] <dhaval_> I get some huge error, and I don't know what's wrong?
[08:56] <richardcavell> bucky: ask in a gcc channel
[08:56] <neda> I am sorry... I reword my question: any suggestion about a good latex editor in ubuntu?
[08:56] <dhaval_> even gksu didn't work
[08:56] <bucky> ok
[08:56] <Alex___> Spikemcc: I already have a driver, I'm just trying to find out if it's the newest one or not.
[08:56] <Slart> dhaval_: gksudo nautilus... but be very careful with that window..
[08:57] <dhaval_> ok, i'll try gksuDO
[08:57] <dhaval_> Thanks
[08:57] <Slart> dhaval_: I can't really think of a good reason to use it.. other than moving files around as root.. and that can be done from the terminal
[08:57] <Drumroll> spikemcc: That's the problem though.  ATI needs to get its ass into gear.  You shouldn't have to use an old version of an OS just to get your graphics card working.
[08:57] <Spikemcc> Big fan of lxde here ... search about it, you maybe should like if you want easy and light ubuntu ...
[08:57] <richardcavell> dhaval_: there's a special package for using nautilus as su
[08:57] <dhaval_> Yeah, actually that's exactly what I want to use it for
[08:58] <dhaval_> meh, gksudo is fine
[08:58] <richardcavell> dhaval_: look for package nautilus - gksu
[08:58] <dhaval_> What's the difference between gksu and gksudo?
[08:58] <grawity> dhaval_: None.
[08:58] <Spikemcc> Drumroll the real thing is you cannot do a good OS in 6 months ...
[08:58] <dhaval_> I tried GkSu, and i got the dialog box thing, and it didn't work
[08:58] <richardcavell> dhaval_: not a whole lot
[08:59] <Alex___> dhaval_: su you need the root password sudo is your password
[08:59] <grawity> Alex___: But gksu just calls sudo
[08:59] <dhaval_> This is wierd, a while ago nautilus was giving me some crazy huge probelm
[08:59] <ahorner> Can anyone here proficient with Python help me for a few minutes
[08:59] <dhaval_> now even sudo nautilus works.
[08:59] <Alex___> grawity: Oh. Ok =D I just assumed ;) I didn't even know gksu worked =P
[08:59] <dhaval_> Alright, thanks.
[08:59] <Spikemcc> gksudo is bad ... try Pcmanfm (file manager in change of nautilus) it does graphical gksudo ...
[09:00] <dhaval_> Ah here's the problem
[09:00] <Spikemcc> nautilus is big and slow yikes ...
[09:00] <dhaval_> Can't run nautilus from terminal when I'm root
[09:00] <grawity> Spikemcc: why, exactly, is gksudo bad?
[09:01] <dhaval_> su -> [enter password] -> nautilus gives me a crazy error
[09:01] <dhaval_> and SUDO nautilus works!
[09:01] <Spikemcc> gksudo is a command that noobs learns but can destroy their desktop in 1 move ...
[09:01] <dhaval_> what the fudge?
[09:01] <grawity> Spikemcc: So?
[09:01] <Gnea> Spikemcc: what's your point?
[09:02] <grawity> Spikemcc: That would mean rm, fdisk, mkfs and gparted are bad too and should not be used either.
[09:02] <Slart> Spikemcc: is there a difference from sudo?
[09:02] <Interphase> hey I am using rtorrent and it says this torrent has 2 seeds and 7 peers, but I am connected to only one person. What gives?
[09:02] <Slart> Spikemcc: I mean.. sudo can destroy a desktop just as quickly
[09:02] <Phineas_Flynn> Bye bye, ubuntu-ers or watchamacallits...
[09:02] <gartral> is there any way to make tracker work like the search in Mac OSX and have it combine results from a dictionaray/encyclopedia with the files on the drives?
[09:02] <Spikemcc> PCmanFM software (file manager) in change of nautilus should help you both ... but don't do anything without being sure of what you do ...
[09:02] <Phineas_Flynn> Wait, what is this channel for anyway?
[09:03] <grawity> Who cares about PCman or Pacman or whatever. gksu by itself is NOT bad.
[09:03] <Spikemcc> www.ubuntugeek.com as a tutorial about it, if you ant ...
[09:03] <dhaval_> ahh my hand!
[09:03] <dhaval_> Got to go, thank you all.
[09:04] <Spikemcc> sudo is CLI , gksudo is CLI>GUI, Pcmanfm stay in GUI as your file manager and help do hard stuff easily ...
[09:04] <Drumroll> spikemcc: True, but that does not explain the crappy ATI support for Linux these days.  Because ATI has issues with almost ANY modern and properly updated distro of Linux, PLUS, nVida has had NO problems keeping up with Linux.
[09:05] <j> ok, doing well, got wireless network up, mounted remote "movies" directory, now this "Dragon Player" seems to not be playing the file? just black screen and the timer is ticking...
[09:05]  * grawity has a sudden urge to punch someone in the face.
[09:06] <Alex___> j: Have you gotten ubuntu-restricted-extras and the css thingie?
[09:06] <Spikemcc> ATI is bad I know ... but I just telled what to do, if he want it working on ubuntu well ... but every stable release that isn't LTS has problems ...
[09:07] <j> Alex___: i have no idea what you are talking about, so i would guess no, any more info you can provide?
[09:07] <Alex___> j: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ; sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[09:07] <Spikemcc> j > install vlc mplayer miro songbird you should like thems ...
[09:08] <real34> hi all!
[09:08] <Spikemcc> you've forgotten libdvdread3 or 4 depending of the version of ubuntu
[09:08] <indus> hi
[09:09] <real34> I just carried out a fresh ubuntu install but have problems to install java
[09:09] <j> i just downloaded it today, so the newest would be my version.
[09:09] <Gnea> Spikemcc: they all have problems, that's why #ubuntu and www.ubuntuforums.org exist
[09:09] <real34> I think it installs a 64-bit version of java whereas I have a 32-bit system... well I guess :D
[09:09] <indus> real34: thats not possible
[09:09] <indus> real34: what is the output of uname -a
[09:10] <Spikemcc> real34 do your sources.list on the website and do in your terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras after ...
[09:10] <gartral> real34: that shouldnt e possible unless you compiled your own kernel, in which case,we cant help you
[09:10] <real34> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linu
[09:10] <real34> oh ... so I have a 64 platrform ?
[09:10] <indus> real34: you have installed 64 bit ubuntu
[09:10] <ahorner> Is Python client or server side?
[09:10] <real34> in fact I thought I had a 32 bit one...
[09:10] <Spikemcc> Gnea sad but tree
[09:10] <Spikemcc> true
[09:11] <forceflow> ahorner: depends where you run it ... bit of a strange question
[09:11] <Drumroll> Alex___: If you want the best support for Ubuntu with an ATI card, 8.04 is the best bet.  I'm saying that you shouldn't have to downgrade just to use your graphics card to full potential, but...  That is the reality.  Read this: http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_ubuntu_and_ati_blues
[09:11] <real34> this is the revelation of the day :D
[09:11] <j> libdvdcss2 no installation candidate...
[09:11] <Slart> ahorner: python is a programming language... that's like asking if C++ is for games or applications
[09:11] <Spikemcc> 64 bits is a little harder but better so no pain no gain ...
[09:11] <real34> does it means that my architecture is a 64 bit one and I didn't know about it until now?
[09:11] <Drumroll> Alex___: 8.04 being the version of Ubuntu, not anything related to the driver.
[09:11] <Gnea> real34: what's the output of this command, please? uname -m
[09:11] <real34> (I mean my hardware config)
[09:11] <ahorner> Slart: Ah. Do you know anything about it that you could give me a push in the right direction?
[09:11] <Spikemcc> thanks to understand Drumroll ...
[09:12] <Slart> ahorner: what are you trying to do? or what do you want to know?
[09:12] <gartral> is there any way to make tracker work like the search in Mac OSX and have it combine results from a dictionaray/encyclopedia with the files on the drives?
[09:12] <real34> Gnea: x86_64
[09:12] <padd1> slart, C++ can be used for gaming
[09:12] <Gnea> real34: you have the 64-bit ubuntu installed.
[09:12] <Spikemcc> j done your sources.list or added medibuntu repositories ?
[09:12] <padd1> just a hell of a lot harder
[09:12] <Alex___> Drumroll: That's part of why I'm trying to find out if I have the 9.4 drivers or the 9.6
[09:12] <real34> Gnea: and if it could be installed, then I should have a 64 bit architecture isn't it?
[09:13]  * Slart hands padd1 a cookie.. You're Winner :)
[09:13] <ahorner> Slart: I am trying to find a way to drag and drop a file onto a custom launcher on the gnome panels or an icon on the desktop so that it would send the file in a multipart form to a website.
[09:13] <padd1> thank U Slart
[09:13] <real34> I've always thought my computer was a classic 32 bit one !
[09:13] <j> haven't added medibuntu...is there a list of common sources for buntu's, i know with my old distro, there was a list of common ones i used.
[09:13] <padd1> Slart: look at the DS homebrew library though, some are OK, all from C++
[09:13] <Spikemcc> gartral linux isn't mac os X you should check mac4lin project and ask to peoples that uses it to tell you what they uses ...
[09:13] <gartral> real34: most 64 bit procs can run 32 bit code just fine (if not slightly faster)
[09:13] <Threetimes> Alex___: use aticccle: applications>tools>ati blahblah
[09:14] <Slart> ahorner: it should be possible to do in python... but I don't think it will be a quick evening-job if you're not proficient in python
[09:14] <bloupotlood> hi guys
[09:14] <Spikemcc> Alex___ 9.4 in 9.04 just dream I have tested more than 5 times
[09:14] <bloupotlood> Is there a bulk email solution for Ubuntu 9.04? One of the users's needs to send to 26k contacts.
[09:14] <Blizzerand> !hi |bloupotlood
[09:14] <ahorner> Slart: I have time, but if not python, what other language would be an option
[09:15] <Alex___> Spikemcc: That's why I wanted to try out compiz with the new 9.6 drivers.
[09:15] <bloupotlood> Blizzerand: hey dude :)
[09:15] <Blizzerand> bloupotlood : Howdy
[09:15] <gartral> bloupotlood: look at xmail, i bileive it is
[09:15] <Threetimes> compiz + 9.6 works, i'm using it now.
[09:15] <Alex___> Spikemcc: But I can't find out anywhere if my driver got auto-updated or if I'm still on 9.4
[09:15] <Slart> ahorner: it won't be a quick evening-job if you're not proficient in *any* language
[09:15] <bloupotlood> gartral: will do, thanks
[09:15] <ProfOak> Is there a way to remove certain items from gnome-do that won't go away by themselves?
[09:15] <Spikemcc> j add medibuntu for dvd reading stuff ...
[09:15] <Threetimes> I just upgraded from 9.4 to 9.6 for the dual monirot support in 9.5.
[09:15] <ahorner> Slart: I'm very fluent in php
[09:15] <Blizzerand> ProfOak : Like ...
[09:16] <j> Spikemcc: ok.
[09:16] <Alex___> Threetimes: aticcle shows OpenGL version and CCC version, but not the driver version
[09:16] <indus> gartral: hello
[09:16] <Slart> ahorner: I've never worked with php... so you know better than I if it's doable in php
[09:16] <Threetimes> what is the "2d driver version" there?
[09:16] <bloupotlood> gartral: shes trying Thunderbird at the moment, its freaking out :)
[09:16] <Alex___> 8.60.40
[09:16] <Spikemcc> Alex___ try envyng it was a pain before but seem to work well now with ubuntu support
[09:16] <Threetimes> it should be 8.something
[09:16] <real34> thx guys, you made me realized that my processor was a 64-bit one
[09:16] <ProfOak> Blizzerand: Sorry I meant gnome-do docket, and the home folder won't go away.
[09:16] <ahorner> Slart: The whole upload script is in php, I just need something to get it from the client to the server.
[09:16] <j> Slart: what are you trying in php?
[09:16] <Threetimes> mine is 8.62.4
[09:16] <Alex___> Threetimes: 8.60.40
[09:17] <real34> :D I really suck! :)
[09:17] <Alex___> Threetimes: Ok. then I'll try disabling the driver in hardware drivers and manually installing 9.6
[09:17] <bloupotlood> Anyone know anything about Mailreactor?
[09:17] <duckwars> I've been looking for about an hour for a good, short, concise way to setup SSL on my apache server to no luck, does anyone happen to know of a good howto?
[09:17] <gartral> bloupotlood: you might want to stop that now, and set up a real mail server
[09:17] <Slart> ahorner, meet 'j'... j: meet 'ahorner'  :)
[09:17] <Threetimes> Alex___: wait one moment...
[09:17] <gartral> hi indus, you caught me at bed time
[09:17] <Spikemcc> Alex___ the highess isn't always the better choose what you need
[09:18] <Threetimes> I have the 9.6 debs here
[09:18] <ahorner> j: Hello
[09:18] <indus> gartral: heh its afternoon here
[09:18] <bloupotlood> gartral: lol, we have a proper mail server here, i think having 26k contacts sent mail from a notebook is unrealistic no? :)
[09:18] <j> what are you doing with php, upload to server and then what?
[09:18] <gartral> indus: its 4:9 here
[09:18] <ahorner> So.. I want to create a script of some kind (maybe set something as a launcher?) that will let me drag a file onto this launcher and send the file as post-data to my php script on my server. What language should I do this in, and has it already been done?
[09:18] <gartral> indus: its 4:19 here
[09:18] <Threetimes> Alex___: http://peter-server.homelinux.net/fxglrx/9.6/
[09:19] <Spikemcc> I liked amarok but songbird suit more my needs now ... but i miss amarok minimizing and keyboards shortcuts ...
[09:19] <ahorner> Think.. drag a file from your desktop onto an icon/launcher and it uploads it to imageshack or what not
[09:19] <gartral> ahorner: sounds llike a job for all encompassing perl
[09:19] <Drumroll> Alex___: How old is your computer?
[09:19] <Threetimes> AlexisM: you don't need the 89MB file, only the rest
[09:19] <indus> gartral: usa?
[09:19] <Blizzerand> ProfOak : Let me get clear , you want to get rid of home folder from gnome-do dock right
[09:19] <ahorner> gartral: how would I go about doing that?
[09:19] <Alex___> Drumroll: 2 months. lol
[09:19] <gartral> indus: yes
[09:19] <j> ahorner: i think perl.
[09:19] <Threetimes> Alex___: you don't need the 89MB file, only the rest
[09:19] <Spikemcc> Drumroll seem recent like less than a year ... too late but good guess
[09:19] <ProfOak> Blizzerand yes
[09:19] <gartral> ahorner: perl... ohh god, the horrors!
[09:20] <xim_> is there a lowlevel disk repair program for linux like spinrite?
[09:20] <Spikemcc> Alex___ take care recent stuff on linux work badly sometimes ...
[09:20] <Drumroll> Spikemcc: I always understood, I just think it's stupid to have to downgrade to get your Gcard up and running.  ATI should get its ass in gear as I already said.  It's killing people's abilities to choose Linux as an OS if they can't even properly use their Gcards.
[09:21] <ahorner> gartral: Isn't perl serverside though?
[09:21] <Spikemcc> xim_ testdisk or photorec I think
[09:21] <Alex___> Drumroll: Mayb that's why they're doing it! ;)
[09:21] <indus> ahorner: ask in !python
[09:21] <indus> !python
[09:21] <gartral> ahorner: can be server side, client, or colaborated, all depending on how big of a headache you want the day after
[09:22] <Lartza_> In what package is gnome-cups-manager?
[09:22] <Spikemcc> Drumroll that's more the problem with a 6 months release that don't show theirs bugs before the download to make the cd to install it ...
[09:22] <Slart> !find gnome-cups-manager
[09:22] <ahorner> So should I do Perl or Python?
[09:22] <jet> Python
[09:22] <j> ahorner: read the file read( STDIN... then  $req = HTTP::Request->new(POST => 'http://somesite.com');
[09:23] <Lartza_> Slart: :S
[09:23] <xim_> thx Spikemcc
[09:24] <Spikemcc> someone know how to handle tv tuners on linux by any chance ? mine work but I need the right software and setup for it ... mplayer tested as /dev/video1
[09:24] <Spikemcc> xim_ > www.lifehacker.com hive 5 of 2-3 months ago that's all
[09:25] <j> oh yeah, who's go video....i do! thx Spikemcc.
[09:25] <Drumroll> Alex___: then you should be working on 9.4, 9.5, or 9.6 I would imagine...  The newer cards have decent support (still not up to nVida levels, but hey, whatcha gonna do?), and should work just fine for most uses...
[09:25] <j> you are making this transition to ubuntu easy.
[09:25] <ahorner> Ok guys I think #python will help me a bunch.
[09:26] <koshari> help! alsamixer loads in terminal but after i load a gui (flux) i get snd_ctr_open failed???
[09:26] <Spikemcc> does ubuntu.com as a sources.list maker as www.ubuntu-fr.org ?
[09:26] <Bob_Dole> ATI has better open-source drivers, so the future is with ATI.. but Nvidia still has better support as a whole, from how I understand things.
[09:26] <Slart> Spikemcc: they used to have one.. I don't think it's available any more though
[09:27] <Spikemcc> if not do one and fast, that is a must-have for beginners !!!
[09:27] <Slart> !sources.list
[09:27] <Drumroll> Spikemcc: It's mostly older ATI cards suffering from issues.  The newer ones work like a charm for MOST things...  But nVida supports most of their older cards in 9.04 where ATI does not.  So if you have an OLDER ATI, then you're crippled.
[09:27] <losher> Spikemcc: tvtime?
[09:28] <Bob_Dole> My Radeon X1600 is a dropped card. It works fine with the open source drivers. My Radeon 9200 SE is a dropped card..it does not work fine.
[09:28] <Spikemcc> losher got no signal on tvtime
[09:28] <koshari> Drumroll true, nvidia supports right back to the mx2 cards
[09:28] <Threetimes> Drumroll: what is "older"?
[09:29] <losher> Spikemcc: xawtv?
[09:29] <Bob_Dole> Threetimes, I think the 2xxx series and earlier
[09:29] <Spikemcc> Drumroll I'm on linux with an Ati for 5 years, I know all of that ...
[09:29] <Bob_Dole> But it might only be the X1xxx series and earlier.
[09:29] <Drumroll> Threetimes: http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_ubuntu_and_ati_blues Read that to get some sense of the problem.
[09:29] <Spikemcc> xawtv on install ...
[09:29] <Threetimes> hmmm, I have a HD 2600XT and it works
[09:30] <Threetimes> So I'm on the edge?
[09:30] <Bob_Dole> Threetimes, Check if it is using the open or closed drivers
[09:30] <Drumroll> Threetimes: They say that any ATI card more than a year or so old will have issues with the 94 and above drivers made for ANY linux distro.
[09:30] <Spikemcc> Bob_Dole use ubuntu 8.04 LTS for your cards
[09:31] <Spikemcc> HD2000 and more work on 9.04 that's why
[09:31] <Bob_Dole> Spikemcc, It's too slow regardless, if I had a means of OC'ing it about 50mhz, it'd be worth it.
[09:31] <jerknextdoor> any idea why i have to restart X to get my trackpad to work in 9.04?
[09:31] <Spikemcc> Bob_Dole an old Ati on 9.04 for 3d is suicide ...
[09:31] <Threetimes> Bob_Dole: I'm using the latest drivers from ATi's site
[09:32] <j> i need some tools to let me use my ati x1300 to play movies on my tv, ideally i want to control them via ssh or xrdp, is this going to be possible?
[09:32] <Spikemcc> if you don't use 3d you're ok
[09:32] <Alex___> o.O
[09:32] <Threetimes> I use 3D (compiz)
[09:33] <Threetimes> j: if you can control it via a command-line, it'll work trough ssh too
[09:33] <Alex___> o.O
[09:33] <Alex___> I can now run java with compiz on and flash works 10x better with compiz on o.O
[09:33] <fromzy> hi all
[09:34] <Alex___> Threetimes: Did you say that it actually works with dual monitors now?
[09:34] <fromzy> I would like to know if on Linux there is a difference like French OS and US OS ?
[09:34] <Threetimes> yes, since I upgraded from 9.4 to 9.6
[09:34] <fromzy> or the difference is only in the GUI and the Keyboard Map ?
[09:34] <Slart> fromzy: there are languages, yes
[09:34] <Blizzerand> ProfOak : Sorry had trouble with power supply . Did you get the problem solved
[09:34] <Threetimes> fromzy: the language and localization settings will be different
[09:34]  * Bob_Dole has lots of computers. most running ATI cards.. HD 3850, X1600, 9200SE, 9000.
[09:35] <Alex___> Threetimes: The fact that my monitors weren't the same resolution made it impossible before
[09:35] <jerknextdoor> could anyone poing me in the right direction to start trouble shooting why i have to restart X to get my trackpad buttons to work?  I don't see anything in /var/logs/messages /syslog that points to the trackpad.
[09:35] <Threetimes> Alex___: mine are also different resolutions, i can post my xorg.conf if you like
[09:35] <Slart> fromzy: not sure what you mean now.. you think the os is translated.. ie help in your language.. menu options and so on
[09:35] <Alex___> Threetimes: I believe you =P
[09:35] <Slart> fromzy: *I think the os...
[09:35] <Threetimes> Alex___: http://pastebin.com/f4b8d6132
[09:35] <ProfOak> Blizzeramd: No, but I just think I'm gonna go back to regular gnome-do anyways. I just wanted to try it out.
[09:36] <fromzy> Slart : In fact some software on Windows must have an US OS to work properly. Do we have the same case on Linux ?
[09:36] <Blizzerand> fromzy : There are labguage packages of Ubuntu but they are DVDs . I've heard they are not updated often or something of that sort
[09:36] <Slart> fromzy: oh.. no.. the OS is the same
[09:36] <Blizzerand> *language
[09:37] <CosmiChaos> fromzy: a system doesnt operate in stupid english or french ;)
[09:37] <allan_> hello all
[09:37] <Threetimes> Blizzerand: nope, you can just install them with system>administration>kanguages and they're up-to-date
[09:37] <Threetimes> i'm dutch, so i know :D
[09:37] <allan_> has anyone running Cod4 on there ubuntu
[09:37] <Alex___> =( Screensaver still screws up
[09:37] <fromzy> Slart : This is what I think so. In fact if I look at /proc/... the metrics have the same name whatever language I use (French, german, US...)
[09:38] <Slart> fromzy: yes.. there are apps that rely on them being named the same..
[09:38] <Threetimes> you can even set the language/localisation per-user, so it must be like that
[09:38] <fromzy> Slart : Thank a lot Slart and have a nice day
[09:38] <Slart> fromzy: you too
[09:38] <jerknextdoor> none of my additional buttons seem to work on my thinkpad r51 with 9.04 my volume doenst agree with the panel applet..  my trackpad doesnt like it..etc.
[09:39] <mike> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[09:39] <allan_> Call of Duty 4 1.7 Linux Server Files < does this work for single player too
[09:40] <Slart> allan_: sounds like it's a multiplayer server
[09:40] <Blizzerand> ProfOak : Just drag the unwanted things to the desktop and there you go
[09:40] <Blizzerand> Threetimes : No I amm talking about DVD Ubuntu
[09:40] <Blizzerand> Threetimes : Here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[09:40] <FloodBot1> Blizzerand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <allan_> I dont know
[09:40] <allan_> i am just trying to get cod4 working
[09:40] <ProfOak> Blizzerand: Oh wow, is my face red... Thanks for that
[09:41] <yellabs> hello all
[09:41] <Threetimes> Blizzerand: if you have the CD, you can install them the way I mentioned.
[09:41] <Spikemcc> welcome back, sorry xawtv test was a pain ... a tip for newbies of linux alt+ctrl+backspace do a hot reboot but 9.04 has to be patched for it ... before it it's ok ...
[09:42] <Spikemcc> ubuntu dvd someone need a lot of unusefull stuf or what &
[09:42] <Spikemcc> ?
[09:42] <Blizzerand> FloodBot1 : lol You are too slow for a bot
[09:42] <yellabs> i have an gnome desktop with theme, now i would like to set it system wide, so that when an new user is added it gets the theme by default: all tips are welcome...
[09:42] <Threetimes> !floodbot
[09:43]  * Blizzerand huggles FloodBot1
[09:43] <linuxn00b> hi everyone!
[09:43] <Blizzerand> ProfOak : So it worked right
[09:44] <Joric> is anybody know why nvidia proprietary drivers won't show in the gui
[09:44] <Spikemcc> sorry ubuntu don't have root account ... you will have to do, one by one I think ... or copy somes files from home to another home (user home)
[09:44] <Joric> i need to have it in the gui instead of downloading manually
[09:44] <yellabs> because they are not loaded?
[09:44] <Joric> well it should be proposed then
[09:45] <linuxn00b> Joric: i think the nvidia drivers are a bit touch and go ...
[09:45] <tuxwulf> I accidentally deleted the NetworkManager Applet from the panel. How to get it back?
[09:45] <ProfOak> Blizzerand: Yes, and I should have known... That's how every dock is...
[09:45] <Joric> but there's nothing
[09:45] <Spikemcc> Joric have you tried envyng first ?
[09:45] <j> oh man, i tried vlc my_file.avi from putty, and it actually started playing the movie in putty via ascii art....i can't believe that is what anyone would want....
[09:45] <Joric> how
[09:45] <Joric> Spikemcc what's enying
[09:45] <linuxn00b> tuxwulf: rught click > add to panel
[09:45] <j> i want to play on the actual screen....
[09:45] <tuxwulf> linuxn00b: I tried that, NetworkManager Applet is not listed
[09:46] <OttifantSir> j: Once saw a Star Wars-movie that way. Interesting concept in the very least.
[09:46] <Spikemcc> tuxwulf do sudo apt-get install wicd in your terminal if you want a better one ...
[09:46] <linuxn00b> tuxwulf: just a sec
[09:46] <yellabs> Joric : open gnome terminal and type glxinfo | grep direct , to see if 3D is loaded
[09:46] <Threetimes> j: check the vlc wiki, there's a lot of info for command-line options there
[09:46] <j> OttifantSir: i have a bigscreen here, i want to play it on that.
[09:46] <Spikemcc> then add it to your session on system > prefs
[09:46] <OttifantSir> j: Didn't say it was useful or beautiful, just interesting.
[09:47] <linuxn00b> tuxwulf: i see what you mean
[09:47] <j> yeah, definately caught me off guard...
[09:47] <yellabs> or lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:47] <linuxn00b> tuxwulf: sorry, im stuck too
[09:47] <Spikemcc> Joric EnvyNG install graphic drivers easily but is on progress but work well for now
[09:48] <linuxn00b> tuxwulf: try dpkg reconfigure or something, it might reset the settings
[09:48] <tuxwulf> linuxn00b: Tthat's ok, I appreciate trying! Thanks!
[09:48] <yellabs> Spikemcc, nvidia drivers can be installed with synaptic...
[09:48] <Joric> i just wonder is there a way to make ubuntu list available hardware drivers back in the gui
[09:48] <tuxwulf> Spikemcc: ... so it may just come to that...
[09:48] <OttifantSir> j: With VLC, you should be able to open the file directly through the GUI, not have to do a Putty commandline execution.
[09:49] <yellabs> EnvyNG, i thought was not supported by ubuntu
[09:49] <j> OttifantSir: i don't want to have a mouse / keyboard directly hooked to the computer.
[09:49] <yellabs> !EnvyNG
[09:49] <Spikemcc> yellabs yes but old ones ... new ones with envyng ...
[09:49] <linuxn00b> tuxwulf: if your really bothered, theres an X server reconfigure thing in recovery mode, that migth do it
[09:49] <j> i want to run it from my laptop / phone via ssh / rdp.
[09:49] <Spikemcc> I said not supported but working ...
[09:49] <tuxwulf> linuxn00b:  Yes, but that does not reconfigure panels, AFAIK...
[09:49] <linuxn00b> ahh
[09:49] <yellabs> The newer nvidia drivers are also in ubuntu repository
[09:50] <yellabs> its very easy with synaptic...
[09:50] <tuxwulf> That's ok, if wicd can do it I will try that. It's fortunately just for convenience, nothign too serious...
[09:50] <yellabs> i have an gnome desktop with theme, now i would like to set it system wide, so that when an new user is added it gets the theme by default: all tips are welcome...
[09:51] <tuxwulf> Spikemcc: Thanks to you too!
[09:51] <Spikemcc> envyng -t (command line) saved me twice on a crashed xorg.conf with a mesa driver at 800x600 on my 1280x800 laptop so it's not worthless that's why it's in the repositories, some peoples use it and want it ...
[09:51] <arty_> hi pls someone to help
[09:51] <yellabs> gnome desktop theme , system wide , how would i set it? ( for every new user that is added )
[09:52] <yellabs> arty state problem
[09:52] <arty_> pls how can i use bzip2 to dir what I need to writte
[09:52] <yellabs> bzip2 dir?
[09:52] <Spikemcc> lxde in hardy repositories it's for when ? cause envy is in the LTS repositories ... I want my lxde without a ppa please !!!
[09:52] <OttifantSir> j: The phone thing would be a real blast to have. RDP is quite easy, and I didn't even need to know more than to look around the menus and know the IP-adress of the computer I wanted to control to learn how to do it. But do tell if you get the phone idea to work. Would love it. Maybe anyremote is something you'd want to try?
[09:53] <yellabs> bzip2 -help
[09:53] <j> i have the ssh from my phone working, i just need to re-direct the output to the vidoe card, instead of back to the phone.
[09:54] <Threetimes> j: do you use wifi or 3G on your phone?
[09:54] <arty_> yellabs: I have dir STAFF and I need staff.bzip2           but I dont know how if I wrte bzip2 staff ,it write mi its a directory
[09:54] <cattellar> anybody have had any luck hiding the menu bar in opera?
[09:54] <j> Threetimes: wifi when i am home.
[09:54] <Spikemcc> yellads it's a /home/user settings file stuff ... try to find what is the file used and copy/paste it or the settings you need in it ...
[09:54] <LLStarks> which is better for ubuntu in terms of drivers and overall performance with respect to windows: amd or nvidia?
[09:54] <Threetimes> j: ah, ok. Have you looked in the vlc wiki yet?
[09:54] <lien> Hi, Is this the right channel for some hardware problems?
[09:55] <Spikemcc> OttifantSir, try thightvnc maybe ?
[09:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:55] <grawity> arty_: You cannot bzip2 directories, only single files. What you probably want is tar cvjf staff.bzip2 staff/
[09:55] <j> yeah, --vout <module> is the switch i need, but more info is needed.
[09:55] <jilbert> wow
[09:55] <yellabs> arty : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/compressing-directory-with-bzip2-336204/
[09:55] <Gav> heh hat looked fun ^.^
[09:55] <Threetimes> ubuntu, FloodBot1: lol!
[09:55] <yellabs> netsplit
[09:55] <arty_> grawity: thx m8
[09:55] <Spikemcc> lien yes ...
[09:56] <OttifantSir> Spikemcc: What do you mean? For the phone to control the machine I want to?
[09:56] <Threetimes> j: can you see me?
[09:56] <yellabs> yes we see you
[09:56] <j> yeah
[09:56] <grawity> Threetimes: If you can see the other person, he can see you too.
[09:56] <Threetimes> ok
[09:56] <yellabs> hehe
[09:56] <lien> Have somebody some expertise in non working internal cardreaders on a acer aspire 9410? :D
[09:56] <jerknextdoor> lien: what's your problem...we can at least try to help.
[09:56] <richardcavell> are x11-utils and x11-server-utils installed by default on all Ubuntu remixes?
[09:56] <tuxwulf> .. not if he got his eyes closed...
[09:56] <arty_> yellabs: thx u2
[09:56] <xbmc666> is there a recovery tool to get back documents from a formated drive (windows ntfs drive) in ubuntu?
[09:57] <jilbert> im getting couldnt find package ubuntu-desktop after installing the server on virtual box
[09:57] <jilbert> what should i do?
[09:57] <Spikemcc> cattelar try firefox it's open source, opera isn't so don't expect miracles... flock is decent for some peoples also ... opera is good but not my taste ...
[09:57] <jerknextdoor> lien:  not me.  but, good luck.  i'm looking for hardware specific help too.
[09:57] <xbmc666> jilbert: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:57] <jilbert> xbmc666: yup
[09:57] <jilbert> that's what i did
[09:57] <grawity> Spikemcc: Opera is very good on Windows. (Not on GNOME, unfortunately.)
[09:57] <Spikemcc> LLStarks nvidia
[09:57] <yellabs> xmbc666 : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[09:57] <xbmc666> tried sudo apt-cache search ubuntu ?
[09:58] <xbmc666> thx yellabs, i'll check it out
[09:58] <tuxwulf> lien > Does it work in Win...?
[09:58] <grawity> jilbert: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:58] <dhaval_> Ok, this is messed up. If the internet is disconnected, I can't reconnect until I do a COMPLETE restart!
[09:58] <lien> tuxwulf: Yes it does
[09:58] <dhaval_> what do I do to fix this?
[09:58] <jilbert> okay grawity
[09:58] <jilbert> wait
[09:58] <tuxwulf> lien > Then it is not your hardware that is having a problem....I'd say...
[09:58] <Drumroll> Opera loads pages faster than ANY version of FireFox, but if you like extensions then FireFox is what you want.  FireFox has better integration with Ubuntu as it is.  I use both though for various reasons.
[09:59] <LLStarks> which is better for ubuntu in terms of drivers and overall performance with respect to windows: amd or nvidia?
[09:59] <lien> tuxwulf: yes, you're right, maybe some driverproblem?
[09:59] <tuxwulf> lien > That's what I think, yes. Either linux does not know that piece of hardware or does not recognize it correctly...
[09:59] <cattellar> anybody have had any luck hiding the menu bar in opera?
[09:59] <dhaval_> HellO/
[09:59] <Spikemcc> Drumroll for speed flock is good also ...
[10:00] <Spikemcc> LLStarks nvidia !!!
[10:01] <Threetimes> j: vlc file.ext -f -Vreset
[10:01] <LLStarks> doesn't nvidia have nasty kernel compatibility issues?
[10:01] <Spikemcc> Ati is good for open source drivers but don't expect 3d gaming to be easy, it's a pain in the ass ...
[10:01] <Threetimes> sorry, wrong window :
[10:01] <Mileage> Does anyone know of a 'simple' way to access file sharing from one ubuntu desktop to another ?
[10:01] <LLStarks> how are the ati binary drivers?
[10:01] <j> Threetimes: i was thinking vlc fle.ext -f --vout default
[10:01] <dhaval_> Dude?
[10:01] <peppo> what's an easy way to backup an ubuntu installation to an ISO file? Ghost4Linux? sending laptop in for repair, need to fully backup my installation...
[10:01] <dhaval_> Why does this happen/ Why can't I reconnect?
[10:01] <Drumroll> LLStarks: ATI was better with older version of Ubuntu, but for recent versions of Ubuntu, nVida is the winner by FAR.
[10:01] <Spikemcc> LLStarks don't have a nvidia but old Ati and nvidia haved problems with 9.04 ...
[10:02] <ceekays> I am trying to setup an tftp server for pxe booting. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04.I'm confused: What is the right file to configure for tftp to work "/etc/xinetd.d/conf/tftp" or "/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa"
[10:02] <Threetimes> j: default is the wrong one, that'll be the ascci one
[10:02] <j> it says i can't initialize the x11 session.
[10:02] <p-f> peppo, it's probably easier and faster to just tar up /etc, /var, /home and /root and make a list of installed packages
[10:02] <j> which is already initialized.
[10:02] <lien> tuxwulf: any clue for me? I've tried already some other irc channels and a forum but no succes (even no response on the forum)
[10:02] <dhaval_> HEY!
[10:02] <dhaval_> I can't reconnect!
[10:02] <Spikemcc> LLStars Ati for a old ones I stuck on 8.04 and the new ones can enjoy 9.04 ...
[10:02] <dhaval_> What is wrong!?
[10:03] <peppo> p-f, not if I have a bunch of custom setups for ffado, scripts etc... customization for the vaio and so on
[10:03] <dhaval_> Spike?
[10:03] <j> Threetimes: got the ascci one with your suggestion too.
[10:03] <Threetimes> j: my "suggestion" was a typo
[10:04] <Spikemcc> dhaval yes ?
[10:04] <Threetimes> j: you might have to tell it to use a specific display, not the ssh window
[10:04] <Spikemcc> reconnect by cable or wifi ?
[10:04] <tuxwulf> lien > Well.. in WIn you can sometimes get more info about exactly what hardware it is, then you can search better for linux usage, too.
[10:04] <quizme> how do you run a command right after rebooting?
[10:04] <j> yeah, but i don't know how to specifiy it, ti is -vout <module> but i don't know what goes in module, can't find an example
[10:04] <quizme> i mean, make it automatically run after rebooting
[10:05] <Drumroll> LLStarks: http://blogs.computerworld.com/the_ubuntu_and_ati_blues
[10:05] <Threetimes> j: i'm looking for it, but my vlc is broken...
[10:05] <Spikemcc> LLStarks I cannot dislike Ati so much, it's because of them that I getted so good on linux ...
[10:06] <tuxwulf> lien > And of course, perhaps Acer got a suggestion...? That's all... I have no experience with cardreaders ...and, I have to go... good luck!
[10:06] <Spikemcc> but Nvidia will be my next choice ...
[10:06] <lien> tuxwulf: the problem is that I've deleted windows :D ké bye
[10:07] <LLStarks> spikemcc: how do ati and nvidia compare in terms of price per performance on cheap laptops?
[10:07] <OttifantSir> j: How about tryin X11 for vout-module?
[10:07] <tuxwulf> lien > One last one: try to get wiser with dmesg ...
[10:07] <tuxwulf> Really gone now. Bye!
[10:07] <Spikemcc> tv tuner user in need here .... someone got an idea to use it on linux, it work on mplayer but I can't change channel and others nice options ...
[10:07] <j> open of `X11' failed: could not create access: no suitable access module
[10:07] <OttifantSir> j: Or XVideo or OpenGL?
[10:08] <Spikemcc> LLStarks a laptop to play ? can I cry for you ?
[10:08] <Spikemcc> dream ok ?
[10:08] <Threetimes> j: try x11 or xvideo, but still we need to tell vlc not to start X on your phone, but use X on your big screen
[10:08] <Drumroll> LLStarks: ATI is usually slightly cheepar than nVida, but since nVida has more Linux support on ALL distros currently, if you want to go Linux seriously, you'll be glad you have an nVida.
[10:08] <LLStarks> i know there are laptops with decent carrds for under $800
[10:08] <j> Threetimes, i tried both, i really need an example, google seems lacking.
[10:09] <Spikemcc> I use my stream my game subscription on my netbook with my gaming pc, it cost less and work better ...
[10:09] <Threetimes> j: try opengl
[10:09] <j> vlc --alsadev hw:1,0 --vout x11 --x11-display :0.1 --fullscreen --no-wxwin-embed is one example, so i think x11 is right.
[10:10] <j> hw:1,0 is something from xorg.conf.
[10:10] <Spikemcc> LLStarks gaming on a laptop laptop is a real short word ... take care
[10:10] <Threetimes> it might depen on your graopics config/driver, just try them all
[10:10] <Drumroll> Spikemcc: They have laptops built specifically for gamers...
[10:11] <Spikemcc> in the best play old games well but don't expect games that have less than 3 years to be a sure bet ...
[10:12] <Spikemcc> Drumroll I buyed a laptop at 4000$ for gaming and it even don't played the nhl game of that year ...
[10:12] <OttifantSir> j: You should probably try to write a script containing the commandline to open films in the correct display, with a dialog asking for which file you want to open. I know it's possible, but I don't know how, and probably something you should ask in #bash if you can handle the cryptic talk over there.
[10:12] <padd1> hey, what's a good cheap laptop for Ubuntu
[10:13] <padd1> not a gamer, just performance
[10:13] <padd1> And Cheap as in like under 600-700 bucks
[10:13] <Anquietas> Hello, for 2 weeks now, Firefox 3.5 is available to download... I am using Ubuntu and I still don't find it in the repositories, when will it be added ?... My windows friends are already using it... how can I trigger an update to switch to FF 3.5 ? or how much should I wait for it ?
[10:13] <Dextorion> just about any padd1, that has somewhat standard components
[10:13] <indus> Anquietas: install the package like so.. sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[10:14] <Threetimes> Anquietas: the package is firefox-3.5
[10:14] <indus> Anquietas: which version of ubuntu?
[10:14] <iamleneko> hey
[10:14] <Threetimes> !info firefox-3.5
[10:14] <Anquietas> 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope
[10:14] <padd1> Dextorion, I realise any work, but, what is a good speed one... etc.
[10:14] <Spikemcc> LLStarks onboard graphic memory standard is about 64 Mb so your laptop should have a Nvidia with at minimum 256 Mb ... but don't dream of playing crysis, dx10 games and so on without a little luck ...
[10:14] <iamleneko> what is the command for having details about ram ? i mean hardware detail.
[10:14] <Anquietas> I installed something firefox-3.5 but when I open firefox, it's still the Old Firefox
[10:14] <indus> Anquietas: its available as a separate package
[10:14] <Anquietas> must I manually search the binary and create shortcuts ?
[10:14] <indus> Anquietas: thats because you didnt install from repos
[10:14] <Dextorion> only you could answer that question
[10:14] <Dextorion> padd1
[10:15] <Threetimes> Anquietas: you should open Shiretoko, that's FF3.5's codename
[10:15] <padd1> k
[10:15] <padd1> oh
[10:15] <Spikemcc> padd1 a netbook is good for linux ...
[10:15] <Anquietas> from the repos I've installed, in Synaptic
[10:15] <indus> Anquietas: remove that, install firefox-3.5
[10:15] <richardcavell> iamleneko: free
[10:15] <Threetimes> Anquietas: you have FF3.0 and 3.5, shiretoko is 3.5
[10:15] <padd1> what's a cheap but fast netbook, Spikemcc
[10:15] <indus> Anquietas: both packages co exist
[10:15] <Spikemcc> under 300-400 even less sometimes ...
[10:15] <Dextorion> padd1, only thing i could recommend would be to have more than 512mb RAM if you will be using KDE or GNOME.
[10:15] <iamleneko> richardcavell, no
[10:15] <indus> !shiretoko
[10:15] <iamleneko> richardcavell, :)
[10:15] <padd1> k, thanks
[10:15] <User___> Hi
[10:15] <j> OttifantSir: i can handle bash, i write all my backup scripts and that sort of stuff, i need the vlc line and i will be fine.
[10:15] <indus> hmm ubottu wake up
[10:15] <padd1> would an eeepc be good?
[10:15] <Dextorion> padd1, as im using a 512mb RAM laptop and find that to be a bit on the low side
[10:15] <richardcavell> iamleneko: Hm?  What is it that you want to know
[10:16] <padd1> oh, OK
[10:16] <padd1> Dexterion, thanks
[10:16] <iamleneko> the hardware detail like, what type of material it is, ddr or ddr2 speed etc....
[10:16] <Dextorion> padd1, your welcome
[10:16] <Spikemcc> eeepc 901 was great, msi wind also, acer aspire one and dell mini 9 was almost epic ...
[10:16] <padd1> Dextorion, what are you using
[10:16] <mzz> weird! I'm playing an mp3, and if I do anything graphically intensive (move a window, scroll in firefox) the mp3 skips *forward*
[10:16] <padd1> what about eeepc T90 or something
[10:16] <Spikemcc> aspire one good sorry
[10:17] <padd1> cool
[10:17] <Dextorion> padd1, 1,7Gz centrino, 512mb Ram.
[10:17] <mzz> I second the recommendation for more ram
[10:17] <Anquietas> ok, I've installed firefox-3.5 from the repos... but which is the binary ?... must I create all the shortcuts ?... or can I modify the previous shortcut of Firefox to point to the new 3.5 version ?
[10:17] <Spikemcc> mzz try songbird or amarok for mp3
[10:17] <padd1> Dexterion, very nice
[10:17] <Drumroll> ubottu, shiretoko is the name for FireFox 3.5 in Ubuntu 9.04 so that it won't conflict with FireFox 3.0.11 that comes installed on Ubuntu bt default.
[10:18] <mzz> Spikemcc: this isn't specific to a particular player, unless it's specific to gstreamer, which would be pretty weird (and it'd still also affect amarok, since iirc that uses gstreamer)
[10:18] <phreak> pabb1 From my experience, Acer has realy good compatibility with Ubuntu and Linux in general
[10:18] <Dextorion> padd1, works just fine for what im doing. Just a bit low on the RAM imo
[10:18] <User___> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, been running several heavy duty simulations over the weekend and just turned screen on and it looks like it's frozen, sims not updating (or very slowly), can't click anywhere and clock has frozen at time I turned on. Anything I can do to recover the data in my programs?
[10:18] <Spikemcc> firefox 3.5 isn't ubuntu supported for now ...
[10:18] <iamleneko> okey i found it again
[10:18] <iamleneko> it is "lshw"
[10:18] <padd1> Dexterion, what model are U using (did U build it?)
[10:19] <Dextorion> padd1, its a hp nx8220. But that doesnt matter.
[10:19] <Spikemcc> pabbl dell has done the linux switch and have a decent support now ...
[10:19] <User___> hi I'm new, can anyone help me?
[10:19] <mzz> Anquietas: running firefox-3.5 (or shiretoko from the main menu) should work fine. I haven't bothered to update various links yet, but I'd expect system -> preferences -> preferred applications to mostly suffice
[10:19] <padd1> Oh, K, thanks Spikemcc
[10:19] <Drumroll> Spikemcc: Yes it is.  It's on 9.04 (as Shiretoko) and will be default in 9.10.
[10:20] <Spikemcc> and worldwide freeshipping at home if you take the website of your country
[10:20] <Anquietas> ok... but why did it changed the name from Firefox to Shiretoko ?... it's a complication, I must retain the new name..... it's wierd.....
[10:20] <mzz> User___: I'd ssh in (if you have that set up) to see if it's just X that has issues
[10:20] <padd1> sweet
[10:20] <indus> !ff-3.5
[10:20] <Pixeltime> Should I goto -help, lost my panels, looks like maybe even window manager (ubuntu netbook) just need to know how to reset it, booted from LiveCD on SD card right now
[10:20] <indus> !ff3.5
[10:21] <Drumroll> Anquietas: They did that so that it wouldn't conflict with the already installed FireFox 3.0.11 and have it cause issues.
[10:21] <angel_> join #php
[10:21] <User___> mzz: I'm running a dedicated linux box. I was wondering if it'd properly crashed or if it's just running reeeaally slowly
[10:21] <mzz> User___: I can't tell, I'm not ssh'd in :)
[10:22] <Anquietas> ok, thank you, hope the name will be returned as firefox in the next release
[10:22] <mzz> Anquietas: have you actually read the link ubottu just gave you?
[10:22] <Anquietas> yes
[10:22] <Anquietas> thank you
[10:22] <Anquietas> :)
[10:22] <kdub> User___: you can check to see what is eating your cpu time, using the cli command 'top'
[10:22] <User___> mzz: ha fair enough
[10:23] <mzz> User___: what kdub said, but of course that assumes you have a working term or ssh connection to run top in
[10:23] <User___> kdub: ok I'll try that, but nothing's been opening
[10:23] <mzz> User___: don't hit this yet, but if all else fails hitting alt+sysrq+k is an option (should kill X, but also everything inside it). See also !dontzap
[10:24] <mzz> ah, that doesn't work.
[10:24] <mzz> !dontzap
[10:24] <User___> mzz: ok
[10:24] <kdub> User___: if its a remote box, ping and nmap are useful to see if its still up
[10:24] <Spikemcc> firefox 3.0.11 multiples crashes on hardy is there a problem ???
[10:24] <kdub> if its a local computer, its pretty easy to see what's going on
[10:24] <lien> Have somebody some expertise in non working internal cardreaders on a acer aspire 9410? :D
[10:24] <mzz> User___: killing X is rather blunt, if you have other ways to access it I'd try those first. ctrl+alt+f1 might also still work, although I doubt it.
[10:25] <peppo> anyone have any experience with G4L?
[10:25] <nikolam> hi. Any idea when packages.ubuntu.com will start working again?
[10:25] <mzz> Spikemcc: still does it with plugins (flash) off?
[10:25] <User___> mzz/kdub: It's a local box, but it's either stopped or running really really slowly
[10:25] <kdub> nikolam: use the standard repos :P
[10:25] <Spikemcc> 64 flash maybe
[10:25] <User___> mzz: I have a couple of macros writing data, if I were to kill would it write the data first or just quit the cmd windows?
[10:25] <mzz> User___: I don't know what "a local box" means. My local systems often run sshds :)
[10:26] <Spikemcc> lien try lspci in your terminal
[10:26] <nikolam> kdub hmm :) I get used to making newer packages for my Hardy LTS :)
[10:26] <Spikemcc> cardreader mostly work well without drivers
[10:26] <mzz> User___: if they're running in terms those'd die. I don't know how the stuff running in those terms would respond, but they'd probably die too.
[10:26] <Drumroll> Aniquietas, yes, the name should revert to FireFox again for the next release.  But if 9.04 had two versions of FireFox installed there would be major issues.
[10:26] <ProfOak> Does anyone know how to make this panel completely transparent? http://i29.tinypic.com/2crsh0k.jpg
[10:26] <mrtn1231> why is there a symbolic link called "ubuntu" in Ubuntu installation CD root? "File ubuntu" gives "ubuntu: symbolic link to `.'". Any ideas?
[10:26] <kdub> User___: x could have frozen, but the kernel is still alive underneath. if you can ping the computer, its not totally locked up..
[10:26] <mzz> Spikemcc: 64 bit flash (the adobe one) is fairly crashy here (in 3.5 in jaunty)
[10:27] <cattellar> is there a way to make a window borderless ... without the title bar and that?
[10:27] <mzz> kdub: that's not much use if he has long-running stuff running under X though
[10:27] <mzz> User___: I tend to run things like that inside screen, so it survives if X crashes
[10:27] <Spikemcc> nikolam ubuntu hardy heron 8.04.2 LTS 64 bits Amd/Ati laptop up and running here !!!
[10:28] <falco_> Samba on this laptop only finds ONE PC, while samba on a different laptop finds ALL pc's in the network. Every computer/laptop is on workgroup WORKGROUP. What is wrong?
[10:28] <nikolam> Spikemcc, nice nice..
[10:29] <Spikemcc> mzz got hardy here ... intrepid and jaunty stuff isn't needed for me and it come with troubles ... LTS is better all the time ...
[10:29] <kdub> mzz: true, but i would hope User___ wouldnt run things like a webserver as a fork of the X process...
[10:29] <lien> Spikemcc: I've already run some tests and put it on the forum but nobody has answered there. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7620576#post7620576
[10:29] <nikolam> Spikemcc, I also think so :)
[10:30] <User___> mzz/kdub: ok ssh isn't working, if I could use the ctrl-C command in the window then that'd be fine but I guess the external one is different and might just destroy it? It seems a  bit screwed really... Can't even select any windows.
[10:30] <nikolam> Also Spikemcc ATI/AMD banned my grapchics from newer fglrx, so I am sort of stuck to LTS because of AMD
[10:30] <mzz> User___: if you still have access to any terminal you can send signals to your long-running apps from there
[10:31] <User___> mzz: No access unfortunately
[10:31] <mzz> User___: if you don't have any terminal access there isn't much you can do
[10:31] <Spikemcc> LTS 3 years dektop support 5 years for servers ... good quality assurance ... It's that or you change each 6 months with various issues each time ...
[10:31] <mzz> User___: (other than kill X and cross your fingers, hoping things recover and your long-running stuff shuts down somewhat gracefully)
[10:31] <indus> Spikemcc: well said
[10:31] <falco_> and the other laptop can't connect to my problem laptop, but it DOES see the laptop
[10:31] <User___> mzz: yeah :) that's the way of ubuntu
[10:31] <mzz> User___: not ubuntu-specific
[10:31] <falco_> it just says something about "cant retrieve list from server"
[10:32] <Spikemcc> nikolam same here but happy even ... I learned the LTS needs ...
[10:32] <User___> mzz/kdub: ok thanks both for your help
[10:32] <indus> Spikemcc: i think ill move back to LTS again
[10:32] <richardcavell> q0_0p: Hi
[10:33] <nikolam> Spikemcc, one more reason I am happy with LTS (beside no trouble) is that I port newer apps to Hardy all the time When I need it.
[10:33] <falco_> Samba on this laptop only finds ONE PC, while samba on a different laptop finds ALL pc's in the network. Every computer/laptop is on workgroup WORKGROUP. What is wrong?
[10:33] <mzz> shrug, there are pros and cons both ways
[10:33] <nikolam> Spikemcc, install debian-reference
[10:33] <Spikemcc> lien try cheese software for the webcam, mine was working without drivers (logitech)
[10:34] <alias1407> falco, make sure the others have got network discovery enabled
[10:34] <indus> hardy is awesome i think
[10:34] <mzz> newer hardware and software may be easier to get going in a newer ubuntu than by backporting enough bits of it to lts
[10:34] <falco_> alias1407 network discovery IS enabled since the other laptop CAN find the other pc's
[10:34] <mzz> although I'll immediately admit I'm a sucker for shiny new features
[10:34] <indus> with 9.04 iam stuck with a dvd rom which wont load
[10:34] <Spikemcc> lien for your sd reader try to buy an usb one ... try to beat the price of one on www.dealextreme.com man !!!
[10:34] <indus> mzz: me too :)
[10:35] <mzz> indus: for example the laptop I'm typing on is running jaunty with the karmic kernel because its wireless has issues across suspend/standby otherwise
[10:35] <Spikemcc> littles friends for hardware just check that website ...
[10:35] <mzz> (and I doubt it'd work at all in LTS)
[10:35] <alias1407> falco, are all pc's running linux of some sort, or are some running winblows
[10:35] <indus> mzz: hmm how do you make jaunty run a karmic kernel?
[10:36] <happosade> Why my rubyripper stops ripping CD, saying that there is not enoug disk space. (Only 750gb left)
[10:36] <Spikemcc> indus any kernel could do on any linux ...
[10:36] <lien> Spikemcc: I've already tried cheese without succes. And are you trying to say that an external USB card reader probaly will work?
[10:36] <mzz> indus: grab the deb and install it. Side effect is I also get kernel modesetting this way, which has its own set of issues I haven't resolved yet :(
[10:36] <Spikemcc> but you could have some issues
[10:36] <kdub> any linux kernel, Spikemcc...
[10:36] <nikolam> mzz, what wireless is that?
[10:36] <falco_> Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server. anyone, how do I solve this samba problem?????????????????????
[10:36] <Spikemcc> lien an usb one work ... as I remember
[10:37] <mzz> nikolam: ath9k in an asus laptop. The actual bug was in an asus-specific module handling the wireless (rfkill) switch (and led) among other thigs
[10:37] <mzz> things, even
[10:37] <Spikemcc> kdud (I said about the issues ?)
[10:37] <mzz> nikolam: after resuming from suspend (to ram or disk) it'd end up with the wireless disabled and the button to re-enable it not working.
[10:37] <kdub> Spikemcc: i just meant dropping a bsd or herd kernel in would be a mess
[10:37] <lien> Spikemcc: okey, let's give it a try
[10:38] <nikolam> a-ha mzz
[10:38] <itai_michaelson> hi, installed virtualbox -deb from website, now where do i find it?
[10:38] <Spikemcc> ath9k check madwifi project website just in case ...
[10:38] <nikolam> but what you need LED for ? :) anyway, I wopuld like to know what wireless chip is it.
[10:39] <nikolam> Also you can swap wireless inside notebook if it is on minipciexpress card
[10:39] <Spikemcc> lien there is some at 3$ on dealextreme.com free shiped worldwide
[10:40] <nikolam> Here it is how to port newer packages to older ubuntu (LTS) > Install debian-reference and go to file:///usr/share/doc/Debian/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port
[10:40] <falco_> Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server. anyone, how do I solve this samba problem?????????????????????
[10:40] <KB1JWQ> falco_: First off, you need more question marks.
[10:41] <nikolam> just get sources from packages.ubuntu.com (when it gets working again)
[10:41] <falco_> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[10:41] <falco_> now what?
[10:41] <Spikemcc> this website is the compagny that sell the stuff that some powerseller sell on ebay ... if you get cheaper please leave me an email fast entraide-net website and my email is on the right ...
[10:41] <KB1JWQ> falco_: Secondly this isn't #samba :)
[10:41] <falco_> is there a #samba then?
[10:41] <itai_michaelson> can anyone tell me how to run virtualbox after instal?
[10:41] <discorpia> falco_: tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1082148 ?
[10:41] <kdub> falco_: why would you think that spamming question marks would encourage anyone to help?
[10:41] <lien> Spikemcc: If i typ 'USB one' in the search bar. I get many diffrent Usb card readers. Is USB one a brand?
[10:42] <falco_> kdub because asking it once apparently doesn't work
[10:42] <Spikemcc> lien any usb based sd card reader will do I think
[10:42] <kdub> irc is all about idle chatter. and you'd get better results in #samba
[10:42] <Spikemcc> but it cheap ... for a try
[10:43] <homebrewcider> hey all, I'm trying to print to cd. I have (as advised) set up a 2nd printer for this purpose. I have cd set as the media, I have cd tray set as the source, I have this 2nd printer set as the printer for the job but all the jobs fail, can anyone help please?
[10:43] <falco_> discorpia yes I have tried
[10:43] <Spikemcc> usb headset work without drivers, game controlers also mostly ... some webcams, card readers, usb keys, usb drives ...
[10:45] <Spikemcc> homebrewcider a cd printer on linux ? not sure it will work my epson r300 work but the cd printing isn't working ...
[10:45] <Spikemcc> my printer wasn't working on linux before ...
[10:45] <lien> Spikemcc: Ah, now I understand, You just mean an USB card reader not the brand 'usb one' lol thanks bye
[10:46] <Spikemcc> right lien
[10:46] <Spikemcc> tv tuner specialist here ?
[10:48] <homebrewcider> yes, a usb printer on linux, it's been done, but my printer doesn't seem to see the cd tray
[10:50] <Spikemcc> cd tray should not work on linux ...
[10:51] <jetienne> how can i disable IPv- ?
[10:51] <jetienne> IPv6
[10:52] <jetienne> !ipv6
[10:52] <Spikemcc> jetienne check on www.ubuntugeek.com maybe there a tutorial for it, but you shouldn't do this ...
[10:52] <jetienne> Spikemcc: ok will do
[10:53] <Spikemcc> !tv
[10:54] <comboos> witam
[10:55] <jetienne> and the gui doesnt allow you to change it
[10:55] <angel_> anybody here used fog?
[10:56] <Spikemcc> nope angel_ what is fog ?
[10:56] <angel_> Spikemcc: http://coeexchange.com/?p=3
[10:57] <jetienne> Spikemcc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 is not uptodate aka use 8.04 as the last version
[10:57] <Platypus2k> I have two PC's I am trying to share files betwwen: Laptop, and HTPC. HTPC finds a folder named "print$", but not my shared folder, Laptop doesn't find the HTPC at all
[10:57] <jetienne> Spikemcc: do you know of a more uptodate ?
[10:57] <Spikemcc> jetienne no ...
[10:57] <guest37535> am i better off using the drivers for my onboard ide raid, or just use software? I need root on raid 0...
[10:58] <Spikemcc> angel_ ghostzilla or rsync ???
[10:59] <Spikemcc> there is also great softwares based on rsync ...
[10:59] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: what's your favourite?
[10:59] <angel_> Spikemcc: its better than all
[10:59] <richardcavell> I use grsync
[10:59] <moncky> angel_: what are you wanting to do excatly?  I am not a fan of using images
[10:59] <angel_> wonderfull , but if you be able to configure it nicely :)
[10:59] <jetienne> ipv6--
[11:00] <Spikemcc> no favorite I use only a desktop here without backups ...
[11:00] <angel_> I just wanna distribute some images over my network in a pc pool
[11:00] <angel_> moncky
[11:00] <moncky> angel_: you should have a look at cobbler, with puppet
[11:01] <moncky> angel_: that way you can easily make changes on a system on the fly without having to rebuild an image
[11:01] <Spikemcc> there is one that does like mac time machine based on rsync just search a little ... it should work well and ghostzilla do a image ...
[11:01] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: no backups?
[11:01] <richardcavell> that's brave
[11:01] <richardcavell> I've been using computers for long enough that I know you make backups
[11:01] <moncky> angel_: https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ http://reductivelabs.com/products/puppet/
[11:02] <pekuja> not Ubuntu-specific, but anyone know what I should do to switch the sound card that Wine uses?
[11:02] <richardcavell> Anyone here know of remote desktop software that's better than the Ubuntu built in one?
[11:02] <jetienne> http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html <- Spikemcc. found it here. thanks for your help
[11:03] <moncky> richardcavell: I am a fan on nomachine
[11:03] <moncky> richardcavell: http://www.nomachine.com/
[11:03] <richardcavell> moncky: have you used the Ubuntu remote desktop?  People say it's slow
[11:03] <Spikemcc> no backups for me, I just use another drive and copy my files ...
[11:03] <guest37535> pekuja: ask in #winehq
[11:03] <jetienne> moncky: what do you think of the recent google implementation ?
[11:03] <richardcavell> even over high bandwidth connection
[11:03] <pekuja> sure
[11:03] <deany> richardcavell, try NX
[11:03] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: well, that is a backup
[11:03] <Spikemcc> but a for a pain free linux that backup well, Slitaz
[11:04] <richardcavell> deany: it requires installation on both client and server?
[11:04] <moncky> richardcavell: yeah works great
[11:04] <deany> richardcavell, i find ubuntus (vnc) works well, but try FreeNX , yes client and server
[11:04] <moncky> jetienne: google implementations? got a link?
[11:04] <richardcavell> deany: what package am I looking at?
[11:04] <Spikemcc> you can just copy Slitaz files to another pc without any worry, redo a live cd, dvd, usb ... no pain ...
[11:04] <deany> richardcavell, there is a guide if you google
[11:04] <Spikemcc> but it's a limited linux ...
[11:05] <ahughes^> hey... I just bought a new 1TB HDD.... I want to dual boot xp & ubuntu... what filesystem should I use?
[11:05] <richardcavell> deany: okay.  It's not in the repos
[11:05] <angel_> moncky: can I get windows images via cobble?
[11:05] <Spikemcc> richardcavell not a real backup, no structure, no real backups timed and all...
[11:05] <jetienne> http://code.google.com/p/neatx/ <- moncky release a few weeks ago
[11:05] <Spikemcc> I can lose all every night
[11:05] <moncky> ahughes^: ntfs for windows, and etx3 or ext4 for linux
[11:06] <zealiod> when receiving mail from a ubuntu server the attachments are always inline as "This is a multi-part message in MIME format" - how can I adjust the server settings to prevent this?
[11:06] <jetienne> moncky: if you test it, msg me, i am interested :)
[11:06] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: I've learned my lesson when it comes to losing important data
[11:06] <Spikemcc> ext3 is better
[11:06] <erikk71> hello
[11:06] <erikk71> all
[11:06] <Spikemcc> use a software to read your drives on windows if needed
[11:06] <ahughes^> moncky, I need to share the drive... dual boot.
[11:07] <moncky> angel_: they have been working on windows implementation though I have not checked for a while, ask in #cobbler
[11:07] <Spikemcc> richardcavell the lesson I know but never learn ... I hate backups ...
[11:07] <ahughes^> Spikemcc, better for whom? I can only find a ext2 windows driver.
[11:07] <techie> ahughes^, the software that spike reffered to is ext2fs
[11:07] <moncky> ahughes^: yeah you will need to partition the disk first, which is done as part of the installation process
[11:07] <Spikemcc> it read ext3
[11:07] <ahughes^> techie, yep... how does that relate to ext3?
[11:07] <deany> richardcavell, thought about ssh and X forwarding?
[11:08] <moncky> ahughes^: for example when you install ubuntu partition 500MB for linux and leave 500MB untouched
[11:08] <techie> Ahadiel, it contains drivers that allow mounting and read/write of ext2 and ext3 drives in windows
[11:08] <ahughes^> moncky, nah... the o/s's are on another drive (yet to be purchased to tell you the truth)
[11:08] <richardcavell> deany: I'd like to do something like that I think
[11:08] <Spikemcc> techie thanks I was searching the name
[11:08] <deany> richardcavell, remote use the app and not the whole desktop,
[11:08] <richardcavell> deany: If remote desktop is unusable then it might as well not exist
[11:09] <Ahadiel> techie, I'm sure it does.
[11:09] <moncky> i think I may have missed somthing, you have a 1TB drive and want to install both ubuntu and windows on their?
[11:09] <moncky> ahughes^: sorry installed on there
[11:09] <deany> richardcavell, Ive used it over slow links and it works fine for me...  but either try NX server or ssh X forwarding.
[11:09] <richardcavell> okay
[11:09] <richardcavell> free nx
[11:09] <guest37535> why would anyone want to dual boot to windows?!
[11:09] <grawity> guest37535: why not?
[11:09] <techie> Ahadiel, sorry about hat that message was meant for ahughes^, should typed more character before tabbing
[11:09] <guest37535> grawity: vmware..
[11:09] <richardcavell> guest37535: games
[11:10] <iceroot> guest37535: games-loader
[11:10] <grawity> guest37535: On a machine with 256 MB RAM? No thanks.
[11:10] <guest37535> richardcavell: oh yeah, fair enough
[11:10] <techie> guest37535, some of us like to do things that you cant do in linux, like play resource intensive games
[11:10] <Spikemcc> if you're not affraid of french language try Framakey Ubuntu-fr remix usb key (mostly a software) ubuntu 9.04 32 bits in french with portables softwares for windows, linux and mac, shared datas ... worth a watch even for you ... a good an decent tool ...
[11:11] <guest37535> grawity: dunno, I haven't booted windows in 2 years except at work & don't miss it
[11:11] <iceroot> guest37535: as some people say, you need windows for games
[11:11] <Spikemcc> it's a persistant data usb key ... not live only so you can put it back in english slowly ...
[11:11] <iceroot> guest37535: but vboc 3.0 can use 3d hardware
[11:11] <wojtek0490> Hi everyone
[11:11] <iceroot> vbox
[11:12] <Eretik> hello what is perl version in ubuntu-8.04.3 lts
[11:12] <richardcavell> iceroot: still not fantastic support though
[11:12] <ahughes^> Spikemcc / moncky, so you are saying to format the drive as  ext2 with ext2fs... but how does that differ to ext3? Or should I just use ntfs and then ubuntu just has gloabal read/write on that mount?
[11:12] <iceroot> richardcavell: yes :( left4dead was not working
[11:12] <richardcavell> iceroot: I can't get Half-Life 1 to run
[11:12] <richardcavell> hardly taxing on modern hardware
[11:12] <indus> who knows aboutr H 264 codecs
[11:12] <iceroot> richardcavell: hl1 runs fine with wine
[11:13] <richardcavell> iceroot: not for me it doesn't
[11:13] <deany> richardcavell, nx relies on ssh anyway... so you`ll need that setup to use mx
[11:13] <deany> nx*
[11:13] <Spikemcc> ext 2 or 3 should do ... ext2 isn't journalized so use ext3 ...
[11:13] <richardcavell> deany: my ssh server is working beautifully
[11:13] <richardcavell> I've spent all weekend getting it to work
[11:13] <deany> k
[11:14] <Spikemcc> I use ntfs and ext3 drive here ... and a little linux-swap that's all
[11:14] <moncky> ahughes^: it all depends, you said you want to dual boot, so you would have one ntfs partition for windows and then ext3 or ext4 partitions for linux
[11:14] <moncky> ahughes^: I dont see where the confusion here is or where you need the help
[11:14] <grawity> I would recommend ext3, as it can be accessed from Windows (there are at least two third-party drivers for that).
[11:15] <indus> H 264 vcodecs who knows
[11:15] <binay> help, no sound on my fresh ubuntu install
[11:15] <Eretik> what is perl version in ubuntu-8.04.3-lts,pls
[11:15] <binay> the sound is onboard, ubuntu 8.04
[11:15] <ahughes^> Spikemcc, problem is there is no ext3 option from ext2fs is there? At the moment I must format this from windows... copy everything off my existing hard disk (windows xp) to the new drive.... then format the existing drive and split into two partitions... XP and ubuntu. But the new drive needs to work with both o/s's
[11:16] <Spikemcc> richardcavell you seem mostly a security specialist, what do you recommand me for security ? backup software for advanced/pro home user and drive encryption ...
[11:16] <Spikemcc> ext2fs work try after ...
[11:16] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: for security?  That's a general question. Backup software... I'm using grsync right now to sync my internal drive with a detachable external drive.
[11:17] <ahughes^> Spikemcc, yeah... why don't I just try :D
[11:17] <Spikemcc> if not there diskeeper linux reader or something like
[11:17] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: As to drive encryption, there are tutorials at ubuntuforums.  You can encrypt your whole / (filesystem)
[11:18] <moncky> richardcavell: even /boot ?
[11:18] <Spikemcc> richardcavell others ideas for rock-solid hackers proof laptop, I could even hand to a hacker for a year without worring or almost ...
[11:18] <leaf-sheep> moncky: No, not /boot.  Silly creature. :)
[11:19] <deever> is there a reason why python2.6 is not available in 8.04 LTS?
[11:19] <moncky> leaf-sheep: :P#
[11:19] <grawity> moncky: if it's possible with TrueCrypt, then it must be possible with Linux too
[11:19] <richardcavell> moncky: yes you can
[11:19] <davidh38> hey guys, i have a question about routing, does anyone know a good irc channel?
[11:19] <grawity> davidh38: ##linux? ##networking?
[11:19] <binay> I can get sound running on ubuntu :/
[11:19] <leaf-sheep> !sound | binay
[11:19] <richardcavell> moncky: it is possible with GRUB2.  I've been told GRUB can do it but it's finicky
[11:20] <moncky> richardcavell: ah, is that new, I was allways under the impression that /boot had to be unencrypted
[11:20] <davidh38> grawity, just have quesion about my netgear router, nothing concerning the OS
[11:20] <richardcavell> moncky: it is said to be possible.  But remember GRUB has to be on an unencrypted partition
[11:21] <erikk71> got to goto office depot an best buy
[11:21] <richardcavell> moncky: So you could just as well put /boot there as well
[11:21] <erikk71> i need bigger hard drive
[11:22] <Spikemcc> erickk71 I need a new drive every week, damn downloads omg !!!
[11:23] <wild_oscar> for an Intel E8500 core 2 duo, should I download ubuntu server 64 or 32 bit?
[11:23] <Spikemcc> 64 bits
[11:23] <richardcavell> wild_oscar: your choice.  64 bit will work fine
[11:24] <Spikemcc> why you don't take the minimal cd ?
[11:24] <wild_oscar> I have no idea what the difference is - I even thought the whole 32 vs 64 bit discussion had vanished with the arrival of dual and quad core
[11:24] <Spikemcc> !minimal cd
[11:25] <iceroot> wild_oscar: no, its just because of the ram-size
[11:25] <Spikemcc> 32 bits less compilation, 64 bits a little more ...
[11:25] <wild_oscar> iceroot: how so?
[11:25] <binay> how do i know if my sound card is not supported by alsa?
[11:25] <iceroot> wild_oscar: with 32bit you can only adress 4gb
[11:25] <Spikemcc> the ram issues isn't all true cause you could use 4 Go of ram on a 32 bits os with a twaek
[11:26] <Spikemcc> tweak
[11:26] <Spikemcc> iceroot the limit was 3 Go or 3,5Go
[11:26] <unop> binay, check.  http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Alsa_Preferred_Soundcards
[11:26] <iceroot> Spikemcc: no, limit is 4GB
[11:26] <wild_oscar> this is a 4 gb machine where I'm going to try (for the first time) virtualization
[11:26] <iceroot> Spikemcc: 4gb = ram + pci-adress-space
[11:27] <lesshaste> iceroot, you need a user/kernel split
[11:27] <Spikemcc> wild_oscar 64 bits on linux is decent...
[11:27] <wild_oscar> so it'll have a Linux OS with 2 virtual Linux machines inside
[11:27] <lesshaste> iceroot, so you can't get 4gb just for the userspace
[11:27] <Spikemcc> not at all on windows ... stay on 32 bits on it ...
[11:27] <iceroot> lesshaste: of course you can, use PAE
[11:28] <binay> I have Intel Corporation 82801G , it supports 82801AA,82901AB,i810,i820,i830,i840,i845,MX440; SiS 7012; Ali 5455
[11:28] <binay> does that mean it doesn't support my sound card?
[11:28] <Spikemcc> maybe windows 7 will be 64 bits friendly for real but I wait until that ...
[11:28] <richardcavell> Win 7 will have 32 and 64 bit versions on the same DVD
[11:28] <iceroot> Spikemcc: lesshaste wild_oscar http://www.infopackets.com/news/hardware/2006/20060824_32_bit_vs_64_bit_systems_whats_the_difference.htm
[11:29] <wild_oscar> thanks iceroot, reading it
[11:29] <deever> is there a reason why python2.6 is not available in 8.04 LTS?
[11:30] <iceroot> deever: ubuntu never upgrade a software, just security-fixes
[11:30] <indus> deever: hmm i thought it was 2.6
[11:30] <indus> deever: np install 2.6 and run it
[11:31] <Matr|X> Couldn't find your OpenSSL library installation dir
[11:31] <Matr|X> Use --with-openssl option to fix this problem
[11:31] <Spikemcc> richardcavell I admit that I liked windows 7 when I tried, a little vista oversized style but it's so easy my mother could use it ...
[11:31] <wild_oscar> software-wise, is it the same? I sometimes read on blogs/forums that people have a hard time installing/using software and someone comes along with the "oh, you're running 64 bit" kill phrase
[11:31] <guest8673678> If I want root on raid 0, should I use the intel drivers or software raid.... ?
[11:31] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: I think they got Win 7 right
[11:32] <Matr|X> im hi
[11:32] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: Sup with that modem?
[11:32] <Spikemcc> richardcave you have crypted linux with witch software ?
[11:32] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: hey man, I got it all working
[11:32] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: you can ssh to me if you like
[11:32] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: I haven't encrypted it
[11:32] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: What was the issue? The link I gave you worked?
[11:33] <Matr|X> im trying to compile rdesktop
[11:33] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: almost.  It was the modem that was blocking port 22
[11:33] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: I'm using encrypted + lvm system. If you want to encrypt your system, you want alternative ISO.
[11:33] <Spikemcc> richardcavell yes but it's oversized a little ... they could have done a little more tweaking ...
[11:33] <Matr|X> and evry thing is good but some error after ./configr
[11:33] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: Ahh, nice.  So you found it yourself and remove the setting?
[11:33] <Matr|X> im trying to compile rdesktop  when i do ./configer at work but at the end give me this error Couldn't find your OpenSSL library installation dir
[11:33] <Matr|X> Use --with-openssl option to fix this problem
[11:34] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: in order to port forward through the modem, you need to forward 0.0.0.0 to my local IP
[11:34] <richardcavell> I never would have guessed that
[11:34] <deever> indus: sure, but from source...
[11:34] <richardcavell> but it's in the F. manual
[11:34] <indus> deever: its in synaptic
[11:34] <real34> (re)hi all... I have this tree for my disks/partitions "sda > sda1 / sdb > sdb1 - sdb2", do you know how I could know the name of a given partition/disk please?
[11:34] <leaf-sheep> Matr|X: rdesktop can be found in Ubuntu repo.
[11:34] <Matr|X> i got it alrady
[11:34] <Matr|X> but im trying to compile it again
[11:34] <wiseman> hay guise
[11:34] <indus> deever: backports
[11:34] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: I see. I did gave you the 0.0.0.0 in the past.  All is well now though. :)
[11:34] <wiseman> So check it
[11:35] <richardcavell> leaf-sheep: so anyway, I'm happily ssh-ing and remote desktopping and so on
[11:35] <indus> hay wiseman
[11:35] <real34> (I am using pysdm and would like to automount them)
[11:35] <leaf-sheep> !compile > Matr|X
[11:35] <wiseman> I'm trying to buy a netbook and I think I know the one I want
[11:35] <wiseman> Lenovo S10-2
[11:35] <wiseman> I know, awesome, right?
[11:35] <indus> what UPS would i require for power back up of 2 hours?
[11:35] <wiseman> I NEED A COUPON CODE
[11:35] <indus> what UPS would i require for power back up of 1 hours?
[11:36] <wiseman> indus: LOL I PREFER FEDEX
[11:36] <Matr|X> why give me this erros i need no erros
[11:36] <Matr|X> Couldn't find your OpenSSL library installation dir
[11:36] <Matr|X> Use --with-openssl option to fix this problem
[11:36] <indus> wiseman: fedex?
[11:36] <th0r> Matr|X: you need to install openssl
[11:36] <wiseman> I've tried googling for coupon codes, does anyone know where to get the hookup on a lenovo s10-2?
[11:36] <Matr|X> ok
[11:36] <wild_oscar> and on another doubt: is it better to install Ubuntu server + install gnome or just install Desktop and then install all the server stuff (ssh, etc)?
[11:36] <th0r> Matr|X: then run ./configure again
[11:36] <Matr|X> openssl is already the newest version.
[11:37] <wiseman> anyone?
[11:37] <wiseman> halp!
[11:37] <Spikemcc> !encryption
[11:37] <real34> I am using pysdm and would like to automount a disk and a partition. I have this tree for my disks/partitions "sda > sda1 / sdb > sdb1 - sdb2", do you know how I could know the name of a given partition/disk please?
[11:37] <Spikemcc> !crypt
[11:37] <th0r> Matr|X: then try installing libssl-dev and doing the configure again
[11:37] <Sh3r1ff> wild_oscar: why would you install X on a server?
[11:38] <wiseman> WINDOWS VISTA IS THE BEST EVER
[11:38] <wiseman> ...now that i have your attention
[11:38] <Matr|X> alright master :D
[11:38] <th0r> Matr|X: when ./configure fails you usually need to install a -dev file...most often a lib<name>-dev file
[11:38] <Spikemcc> Vista wiseman can I hurt you ?
[11:38] <Sh3r1ff> wiseman: nice try to get the attention here ;)
[11:39] <wild_oscar> Sh3r1ff: I'm trying Virtualbox for the first time and probably won't feel comfortable with its command line yet
[11:39] <Matr|X> yes
[11:39] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: What command line?
[11:39] <wild_oscar> command line configuration
[11:39] <wiseman> Spikemcc: Sh3r1ff: no, just trying to buy a netbook
[11:39] <wild_oscar> it can be configured in the shell as well
[11:39]  * Spikemcc put a blonde brain in wiseman head ... there it should be way enough to work
[11:39] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: You're trying to install PUEL Virtualbox?
[11:40] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: Err, can you send the link of what you're trying to follow?
[11:40] <Spikemcc> wiseman buy it, you don't need coupons ... are you poor ?
[11:40] <wiseman> Spikemcc: yes, I am poor, you jackass
[11:40] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: or the OSE
[11:40] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:40] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: You know the differences, right?
[11:40] <wiseman> if I can do free shipping or save 50 bucks, i'd like to.
[11:41] <iceroot> how to check what type of font a pdf is using?
[11:41] <Sh3r1ff> wiseman: i'm not poor and even i like too ;)
[11:41] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: yeah, OSE is probably a headache to install, doesn't have usb but won't have issues if I install it on my company's server
[11:41] <Spikemcc> wiseman take Slitaz and an old ultra slim laptop or an old desktop ... It will work well ...
[11:41] <wild_oscar> (usb = virtual usb)
[11:41] <Sh3r1ff> wild_oscar: install vmware server ;)
[11:42] <wiseman> Spikemcc: I'm getting a lenovo s10-2
[11:42] <wild_oscar> Sh3r1ff:  that's probably 500 or 1000 euro
[11:42] <richardcavell_> sorry guys power in my house failed.
[11:42] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: PUEL is more headache than OSE, I think.  OSE is already in Ubuntu repo, I believe.
[11:42] <Sh3r1ff> wild_oscar: vmware server is free ;)
[11:42] <richardcavell_> Can anyone vouch for the recent updates to wine?  Is it significantly better than it was before?  I'm looking to run steam games
[11:43] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: isn't it the other way around? I thought it was the PUEL which was on the repos
[11:43] <Matr|X> config.status: creating Makefile
[11:43] <Matr|X> is this good ?
[11:43] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: You have it the other way. ;)
[11:43] <wild_oscar> ie, at least in http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads they only point you to the OSE's source code
[11:43] <th0r> Matr|X: that means it is completing
[11:43] <Spikemcc> Sh3r1ff free for a limited time maybe and won't evolve more than an open source product ...
[11:43] <wild_oscar> and have .debs of the PUEL
[11:43] <th0r> Matr|X: next step is 'make'
[11:44] <Matr|X> now give me erros with make bro
[11:44] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: is OSE in the official 9.04 repos?
[11:44] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: Yes.
[11:44] <wild_oscar> even better then :)
[11:44] <leaf-sheep> !info virtualbox-ose | wild_oscar
[11:44] <th0r> Matr|X: is it returning errors or just warnings?
[11:44] <Matr|X> errors
[11:44] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: Here you go. :)
[11:44] <Spikemcc> in two years Virtual box has matched VmWare ... in a few years VmWare could be history ...
[11:44] <Matr|X> xwin.c:2527: error:
[11:44] <real34> Sorry, but I try again :D I am using pysdm and would like to automount a disk and a partition. I have this tree for my disks/partitions "sda > sda1 / sdb > sdb1 - sdb2", do you know how I could know the name of a given partition/disk please?
[11:44] <wild_oscar> oh; still the 2.x version, though
[11:44] <Matr|X> all erros
[11:45] <th0r> Matr|X: pastebin the errors
[11:45] <wild_oscar> (it's already in 3.x)
[11:45] <Matr|X> ok
[11:45] <Sh3r1ff> Spikemcc: vmware server is totally free, check it out on the vmware site, and i can't complain about the evolution of vmware
[11:45] <richardcavell_> Spikemcc: VBox is undergoing rapid development
[11:45] <richardcavell_> Look at the changelogs.  They're working feverishly on it
[11:45] <wild_oscar> Sh3r1ff: free for personal use, right?
[11:45] <Adlai> Is there any way to apt-get packages off my Ubuntu installation CD?
[11:45] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: Yup. Ubuntu only update security fixes.  You may get virtualbox-ose 3.0 in karmic.
[11:45] <leaf-sheep> !info virtualbox-ose karmic
[11:46] <Sh3r1ff> Spikemcc: in the new version, you can administrate all the vm's in a web browser
[11:46] <Spikemcc> Sher1ff : and Virtualbox work better on linux than VmWare ...
[11:46] <richardcavell_> Spikemcc: the same codebase works on all kinds of hosts and all kinds of guests
[11:46] <richardcavell_> (but only x86 chips of course)
[11:46] <richardcavell_> forget about previous versions of vbox
[11:46] <richardcavell_> install 3.0.2
[11:47] <Sh3r1ff> wild_oscar: you can run it in your company, no prob
[11:47] <Adlai> I tried installing wicd, and it uninstalled network-manager. Is there any way that I can get network-manager off my installation CD?
[11:47] <richardcavell_> I trust Sun to work hard on the 3D support
[11:47] <richardcavell_> and fix all the bugs
[11:47] <wild_oscar> richardcavell: do you know of any repo for 3.x?
[11:47] <Adlai> Please help, I'm stuck using the Windows XP boot for now.
[11:47] <Sh3r1ff> wild_oscar: it is a free download and you just need to register for a free licence key
[11:47] <Matr|X> http://pastebin.com/d6002e9cf
[11:47] <Spikemcc> Sh3r1ff VmWare no need at all ...
[11:47] <richardcavell_> wild_oscar: no, you download it from virtualbox.org
[11:48] <richardcavell_> wild_oscar: actually http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian main free
[11:48] <Adlai> Anybody? Is there any way to download packages from my CD?
[11:48] <Spikemcc> that will be Virtualbox for little uses or directly Ubuntu Jeos Virtualization
[11:48] <richardcavell_> add deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian main free to software sources
[11:49] <Adlai> Please help! I'm stuck on Windows until I can get network-manager on Ubuntu again!
[11:50] <wild_oscar> hmm...I will try that once I install the server then
[11:50] <Spikemcc> I share my wifi with my VM, dream of that on VmWare ... it isn't working as I remember ...
[11:51] <wild_oscar> worst case I can always checkinstall
[11:51] <Spikemcc> richardcavell_ the VM 3d is slowly working on VmWare and VirtualBox as I know
[11:51] <richardcavell_> Spikemcc: it's still officially experimental on VBox
[11:51] <Adlai> any ideas?
[11:51] <richardcavell_> they're actually encouraging the use of WineD3D
[11:51] <wild_oscar> I didn't know vmware was also OSE, though
[11:52] <Spikemcc> Adlai > sudo apt-get install wicd (on your terminal)
[11:52] <Spikemcc> change it for better
[11:52] <budo> anyone know scripts?
[11:52] <Adlai> Spikemcc: huh? that won't work because I have no networking on ubuntu atm!
[11:52] <jrib> budo: can you be more specific?
[11:52] <Adlai> I installed wicd, it doesn't see the wireless networks, and now I want to get network-manager back.
[11:53] <Spikemcc> Adlai connect to a network cable man ...
[11:53] <Adlai> Don't have one...
[11:53] <indus> Adlai: in terminal type nm-applet
[11:53] <indus> Adlai: and you will have it back
[11:53] <Spikemcc> sudo apt-get install network-manager then add the applet
[11:54] <Xerro> Hallo, ich habe Probleme das Root verzeichnis via sudo ls > /root anzusehen. Wie kann ich das noch berwerkstelligen?
[11:54] <Adlai> is there no way to get it off the installation CD?
[11:54] <Spikemcc> wicd see wifi connection I'm on it now ...
[11:54] <indus> i need help with lirc
[11:54] <indus> !lirc
[11:54] <Adlai> Spikemcc: that's nice, it didn't see mine :-/
[11:54] <indus> !info lirc
[11:54] <AdvoWork> Is there any way to view/be able to open, files on a network, ie theyre samba shared in bookmarks, but that wont list in a open dialog.
[11:54] <Spikemcc> Adlai can you tell me more about your connection ?
[11:54] <Xerro> Is anyone who can speak german?
[11:54] <Adlai> uh it's a wireless connection?
[11:55] <leaf-sheep> !german | Xerro
[11:55] <budo> see i want root to allow other members to run a script...except, when its run it has commands in it that are outside of their path and permissions...so, what can i do?
[11:55] <indus> !de | Xerro
[11:55] <Adlai> I'm on a thinkpad T400
[11:55] <Adlai> network-manager worked fine, shit only broke now that I tried to use wicd.
[11:55] <iMatter> I'm having panel issues, every reboot the icons on the right mostly jumble up and scramble around that side of panel and yes they are locked  sometimes the left icons jumble but rarely.
[11:55] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: do you use Virtualbox exclusively through a shell?
[11:55] <Xerro> thx
[11:55] <Spikemcc> I will help you with my wicd ... but wep, wpa, wpa2 connection ???
[11:55] <iMatter> Adlai, did you go into wicd preferences, and make sure it has the right device
[11:55] <indus> Xerro: or you can ask in english and we will try to help
[11:56] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: What do you mean?  I install Virtualbox and start it from GUI, although I think that can be accomplished via shell too.
[11:56] <iMatter> Adlai, go to wicd, press preferences and tell me the wifi device
[11:56] <Adlai> iMatter: I'm in fucking WinXP b/c I have no internet on my Ubuntu boot.
[11:56] <leaf-sheep> !language | Adlai
[11:56] <Adlai> sorry.
[11:56] <Adlai> How do I get a GUI for wicd?
[11:57] <Spikemcc> Adlai there is one ...
[11:57] <mOrO^> Adlai: you sound like a Repbulican!
[11:57] <iMatter> Adlai, well when you get to ubuntu go to wicd, press perferences and see what it says under Wi-Fi interface
[11:57] <deever> indus: under which name is python2.6 in hardy-backports?
[11:57] <lint> hello, could someone tell me ewhether it is possible to install ubuntu without bunring it to a cd?
[11:57] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: relates to my previous desktop vs server edition question - installing desktop edition means installing all its crap (office, gimp, etc), when all I really want is server + an X desktop for virtualbox management
[11:57] <indus> deever: i only suggested searching in that
[11:57] <indus> deever: wait let me check
[11:57] <Adlai> iMatter: how do I "go to wicd"?
[11:57] <Spikemcc> Applications>Network>wicd on your gnome menu
[11:57] <wild_oscar> but I recall it to be more difficult to install server edition and then an X environment
[11:58] <Adlai> ok, I'll try that out.
[11:58] <iMatter> Adlai, type wicd-client into terminal
[11:58] <indus> lint: use a usb
[11:58] <Adlai> Thank you Spikemcc iMatter and mOrO^ (for the humor)
[11:58] <richardcavell_> lint: usb key
[11:58] <iMatter> adlai WAIT...
[11:58] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.  Why do you want X on your server?
[11:58] <Spikemcc> it's not humor ... it's true
[11:58] <indus> richardcavell_: iam guessing, i copy the iso to usb then boot from usb?
[11:58] <lint> richardcavell_ i dont have a usb key
[11:58] <iMatter> ah well he'll be back
[11:58] <Spikemcc> !wicd
[11:59] <Spikemcc> !wifi
[11:59] <richardcavell_> indus: don't copy the iso to the usb
[11:59] <wild_oscar> leaf-sheep: it is where I'm putting Virtualbox
[11:59] <richardcavell_> indus: you 'burn' it to the usb
[11:59] <indus> richardcavell_: huh what? how?
[11:59] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: Servers don't use GUI at all.  Also, people at #ubuntu-server can help you figure out what you want.  There also are virtualization which could do the job too.
[11:59] <dsdeiz> hello, how do u force a webpage to open in a new tab in epiphany?
[11:59] <lint> richardcavell_, is there any other way?
[11:59] <leaf-sheep> !virtualization | wild_oscar
[11:59] <richardcavell_> lint: well, external hard disk
[11:59] <jrib> dsdeiz: you mean as opposed to a new window?
[12:00] <dsdeiz> jrib: yep
[12:00] <richardcavell_> lint: how else do you want it to work?  You have to have an image of Ubuntu and boot from it
[12:00] <lint> richardcavell_, yes i have the iso, but i cant use my cd-rom drive and i do not have a usb key
[12:00] <wild_oscar> my virtual OS's don't need X, of course; but that was my question regarding Virtualbox: you said you manage it on an X-enabled machine
[12:01] <richardcavell_> lint: you have to boot to something that contains the ubuntu image
[12:01] <jrib> dsdeiz: that wasn't possible (feature) at one point.  Not sure if that has changed.  Check with #epiphany
[12:01] <jrib> dsdeiz: in irc.gnome.org...
[12:01] <leaf-sheep> wild_oscar: I use/run it on my laptop.  Not the server.
[12:01] <Guest49224> why is it that i hear the start up sound but no other sounds?
[12:01] <richardcavell_> lint: do you have the .iso downloaded onto your desktop in Windows or something like that?
[12:01] <dsdeiz> jrib: oh cool, they have their own ircd
[12:01] <dsdeiz> jrib: thanks ;)
[12:02] <lint> richardcavell_, yes precisely
[12:02] <richardcavell_> lint: okay.
[12:02] <richardcavell_> lint: are you saying your CD burner is broken?
[12:02] <AdvoWork> Is there any way to view/be able to open, files on a network, ie theyre samba shared in bookmarks, but that wont list in a open dialog.
[12:02] <lint> richardcavell_,  the burner works but i have no discs
[12:02] <indus> richardcavell_: how do you burn it to usb?
[12:02] <leaf-sheep> !sound | Guest49224
[12:03] <richardcavell_> indus: it is possible.  Easier to burn it to CD and then copy it to usb
[12:03] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, i've tried those thank you, they didn't help
[12:03] <richardcavell_> lint: your easiest option is to go buy some discs.  They're like 10 cents each
[12:03] <Guest49224> i did something mentioned on the forum
[12:03] <indus> richardcavell_: u mean just copying an iso to usb will not work?
[12:03] <richardcavell_> indus: it will not work
[12:03] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Run "sudo alsactl init" in the terminal.  See if that helps.
[12:04] <richardcavell_> indus: the .iso file is an image.  That image has to be imprinted somehow onto the medium
[12:04] <Guest49224> alsactl: Unknown command 'init'...
[12:05] <amikrop> grawity: Hello. Remember I had an issue with svn+ssh no-passphrase autthentication? It asks me the passphrase again, or the keyring password to unlock it. I clicked Deny, and here is my variable: $ echo $SSH_AUTH_SOCK
[12:05] <amikrop> /tmp/keyring-TxVPZt/socket.ssh
[12:05] <grawity> And the problem is?
[12:05] <maxagaz> is it possible to have a given application window on the top of firefox fullscreen mode ?
[12:05] <amikrop> grawity: So, it seems we didn't manage passwordless access.
[12:05] <grawity> maxagaz: Press Alt+Tab.
[12:05] <indus> richardcavell_: hmm no,actually the usb stick needs a grub kinda thing loaded onto it
[12:05] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: alsamixer -- Make sure all bars are high and if you see any blue/gray 'm' on bottom, press m to unmute.
[12:05] <grawity> amikrop: Because you clicked Deny?
[12:05] <indus> richardcavell_: i guess thats why its a little diff
[12:06] <amikrop> grawity: It asked me for a password, but I don't want it to ask anything. I want it to be unlocked automatically on login.
[12:06] <richardcavell_> indus: some computers can boot from a usb stick.  Most can.
[12:06] <richardcavell_> Mine can't.
[12:06] <indus> richardcavell_: best is to use usb-creator
[12:06] <richardcavell_> yep
[12:06] <grawity> amikrop: Then open Seahorse, and change your keyring password to match your login password.
[12:06] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, i can't make headphone high
[12:07] <Guest49224> a headphone is what i'm using
[12:07] <maxagaz> grawity, i mean permanently
[12:07] <amikrop> grawity: they are the same
[12:07] <Guest49224> it is stuck at 00
[12:07] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: I see. Press up do nothing?  Try sudo alsamixer.  (I doubt it though).
[12:08] <indus> richardcavell_: the usb disk can only be created from a running linux os,or use netbootin in windows
[12:08] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, doesn't work
[12:08] <grawity> amikrop: You sure? It shouldn't ask for the keyring pass then... how about deleting and re-creating it?
[12:09] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, the weird thing is i hear the startup sound
[12:10] <richardcavell_> Okay I'm installing wine now guys.  Gonna try to play half-life.
[12:10] <amikrop> grawity: actually, I have automatic login
[12:10] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: alsamixer -D hw:0
[12:11] <amikrop> grawity: could that be affecting?
[12:11] <grawity> amikrop: And that is exactly why it cannot automatically unlock the keyring.
[12:11] <grawity> amikrop: With automatic login, it doesn't even know your password.
[12:11] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, nope
[12:11] <amikrop> grawity: any solution, then?
[12:11] <grawity> amikrop: You could try removing the password from keyring too.
[12:11] <Techie> richardcavell_: HL1 will work under wine with no issues
[12:11] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, i hear the startup sound on my headphone
[12:12] <deever> indus: ?
[12:12] <indus> deever: 1 sec
[12:12] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: You may want to try install gnome-alsamixer and gnome-volume-control too and check their settings.
[12:13] <amikrop> grawity: it is in "My Personal Keys" or "Passwords" tab of Seahorse?
[12:13] <grawity> amikrop: "Passwords".
[12:13] <amikrop> grawity: it has login and default
[12:13] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Starting with gnome-alsamixer.  One package at a time.
[12:13] <lillis> I have installed Ubuntu netbook remix on my netbook. It worked flawlessly. I did the automatic upgrade which did something like 100 package upgrades (I didn't use a daily release as it said they weren't working properly atm). The upgrade itself works fine, no error messages. It then tells me to reboot the system, so I reboot. Now, when gnome starts, it gives me the background image, and the desktop with icons (i can right click on it and peform the 
[12:13] <amikrop> grawity: should I remove the password of default?
[12:13] <grawity> amikrop: Hrmm. How about you delete both, then create "login"?
[12:13] <indus> deever: i guess you need to compile
[12:13] <Guest49224> ok
[12:13] <lillis> This has happened twice after reinstalling and updating.
[12:13] <grawity> amikrop: Two keyrings can make things confusing.
[12:13] <deever> indus: ok
[12:14] <Spikemcc> is there something easy to encrypt linux ?
[12:14] <amikrop> grawity: I created the password login, with no passphrase
[12:15] <grawity> amikrop: Okay, the keyring should be unlocked automatically then.
[12:15] <grawity> amikrop: Next time you use ssh, it should ask for the key's passphrase and store it - so after that, it should be really passwordless.
[12:15] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: Alternative disc have the option of full system encryption + lvm (exempt /boot).  You'll have to start from scratch.
[12:15] <amikrop> grawity: but from the next login, right? because now I was asked and gave the password, after the fix
[12:15] <amikrop> oh, ok
[12:15] <amikrop> grawity: thank you very much :-)
[12:16] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: Another option -- TrueCrypt.  Not sure how to encrypt in TrueCrypt.  Check their sites for Wiki and such.  I know it's available in Windows.  Linux is a good question.
[12:16] <Spikemcc> I got the linux version installed it seem like a maze
[12:17] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, still no sound
[12:17] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Did you look at settings in gnome-alsamixer?
[12:18] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, there isn't much at settings
[12:18] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: Are you using Windows too?  I myself used encryption + lvm option in alt.disc and it worked great.  This is something linux native.
[12:18] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: You toggled on headphone and such?
[12:19] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, yes but there is not volume control for headphones
[12:19] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Install gnome-volume-control then.
[12:19] <Guest49224> there is mic, mic boos both are high
[12:19] <Paddy1> hey guys
[12:20] <Spikemcc> ok I use windows also, I wanted to learn high security on linux as I don't use windows anymore, just for some games ...
[12:20] <lillis> I have installed Ubuntu netbook remix (jaunty) on my netbook. It worked flawlessly. I did the automatic upgrade which did something like 100 package upgrades (I didn't use a daily release as it said they weren't working properly atm). The upgrade itself works fine, no error messages. It then tells me to reboot the system, so I reboot. Now, when gnome starts, it gives me the background image, and the desktop with icons (i can right click on it and pe
[12:20] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: You want to install Windows first, then install linux after.
[12:21] <Spikemcc> leaf-sheep I know that man
[12:21] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, gnome-volume-control is that right name?
[12:21] <Guest49224> i don't see it in synaptic
[12:21] <RapJamMc> o
[12:21] <oskar-> Spikemcc:  do you have a special question?
[12:21] <RapJamMc> cioa+
[12:21] <RapJamMc> yes
[12:21] <RapJamMc> fuck your mother
[12:21] <RapJamMc> fuck
[12:22] <oskar-> poor boy
[12:22] <RapJamMc> f
[12:22] <RapJamMc> f
[12:22] <RapJamMc> ff
[12:22] <FloodBot3> RapJamMc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <Paddy1> lol
[12:22] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: gnome-volume-control-pulse
[12:22] <zealiod> im having trouble with attachments being sent as mixed mime to the user... does anyone have any postfix guru knowledge?
[12:22] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, doesn't show on synaptic
[12:23] <RapJamMc> se hahaha
[12:23] <oskar-> zealiod:  postfix should normally not touch mail contents
[12:23] <RapJamMc>  
[12:23] <RapJamMc>  
[12:23] <RapJamMc>  
[12:23] <RapJamMc>  
[12:23] <RapJamMc>  
[12:23] <RapJamMc>  
[12:23] <FloodBot3> RapJamMc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <leaf-sheep> !info gnome-volume-control-pulse Guest49224
[12:23] <th0r> !op
[12:23] <leaf-sheep> !ops | RapJamMc
[12:23] <jrib> msg RapJamMc hi, do you have an ubuntu-related support question we can help you with?
[12:23] <jrib> erm
[12:23] <Spikemcc> mostly tv tuner on linux, multi monitoring with ati, I got a frets on fire bug report so I want to find a way to play even, I want a pain-free auto-backup and I wanted to encrypt my system ...
[12:23] <leaf-sheep> jrib: Fail. :P
[12:23] <cTn> hi guzys, when i have ubuntu installed on second partition (with wubi) how can i access files on that partition? i see first partition (disk C, windows hdd) but disk D when i have all the data (movies etc) ?
[12:23] <leaf-sheep> !info gnome-volume-control-pulse
[12:23] <cTn> *guys
[12:23] <Spikemcc> and a printer to setup also
[12:23] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: See ^^
[12:23] <Guest49224> ok
[12:23] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: It is in Ubuntu repo.
[12:24] <azazel_> SIEMANKO ALL
[12:24] <jrib> !pl | azazel_
[12:24] <zealiod> oskar-: I've only come to that conclusion through some testing... mail I send to postfix from gmail receives my attachment fine... but mail I create using a PHP script on the server is received with the attachemnt inline as a mixed mime.... the PHP script is doing its job fine, because if I use the same PHP script to send to gmail it receives fine in gmail....
[12:25] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, how exactly do i install it :/
[12:25] <Spikemcc> too much for ya ?
[12:25] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: In terminal, run "sudo aptitude install gnome-volume-control-pulse"
[12:25] <rrajaratnam> hey all, has anyone managed to get headphones working on a hp dv6 laptop?
[12:26] <cTn> when i have ubuntu installed on second partition (with wubi) how can i access files on that partition?
[12:26] <AdvoWork> Is there any way to view/be able to open, files on a network, ie theyre samba shared in bookmarks, but that wont list in a open dialog.
[12:26] <oskar-> zealiod:  gmail perhaps modifies mail in some way. have you compared the sent and the two variants of received mails?
[12:26] <Guest49224> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gnome-volume-control-pulse"
[12:26] <fouli> #archlinux-fr
[12:27] <oskar-> zealiod:  in not modifying mail contents you can trust a raw postfix more than any professional mail provider
[12:27] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Err, I think you need to check Software Sources and enable third party repos.
[12:27] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Jaunty, right/
[12:27] <Guest49224> ok
[12:27] <Guest49224> hardy
[12:27] <zealiod> oskar-: not sure how to compare them....
[12:27] <zealiod> oskar-: let me look
[12:27] <Spikemcc> usb headset work without drivers, but a little pain to configure ...
[12:27] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Ahh, I'm not sure if it's in hardy, but check if your sources are enabled.
[12:28] <daniele> hi, How can i restart a service?
[12:29] <Dave123-road> daniele, /etc/init.d/<service>
[12:29] <mohamed> salut
[12:29] <memphis^1> daniele "sudo /etc/init.d/"service name" restart
[12:30] <daniele> perfetto
[12:30] <memphis^1> :)
[12:30] <daniele> non c'è una qualche gui per fare ciò?
[12:30] <oskar-> zealiod:  compare the header and mime-header lines
[12:30] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: You're using Vaio?
[12:30] <zealiod> oskar-: just doing that now
[12:30] <Guest49224> no
[12:30] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Can you give me your model?
[12:31] <Guest49224> the board is a msi g31m3 l v2
[12:31] <Guest40080> est ce que je peux savoir l'horaire des cours informatiques
[12:31] <DysonReturns> greets, the network admin said i need to be part of a specific "network domain" with my desktop pc.
[12:31] <Guest40080> svp
[12:32] <Guest40080> ?
[12:32] <DysonReturns> what am i googling for?
[12:32] <Guest49224> audio Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
[12:32] <DysonReturns> i have limited access to things unless i log onto this domain. i've made my ubuntu install's username/pass the same as my window machine.
[12:33] <MyWay> hi all
[12:33] <Guest40080> hi
[12:33] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: Look in Software Source, you may want to enable backports modules if the sounds does not work.
[12:34] <oskar-> !fr | Guest40080
[12:34] <MyWay> I've installed Ubuntu 9.04 from the Alternate CD, because i wanted to install fake raid0, the problem is that, when i reboot at the end of the installation, i get: Missing operating system, before Grub's menu, somebody klnow what could be?
[12:34] <oskar-> DysonReturns:  does he mean a windows domain?
[12:34] <Guest49224> ok
[12:34] <DysonReturns> fully
[12:34] <DysonReturns> oskar-: i think thats it
[12:35] <DysonReturns> oskar-: the other folk have username/password/domain at their login. i need to enter that domain for my ubuntu aswell somehow.
[12:35] <leaf-sheep> Guest49224: In the terminal, "aptitude search linux-backports" -- What do you see?
[12:35] <Guest40080> can i know what is the time of informatics lessons plz i'm new user
[12:35] <Guest40080> ??????,,,
[12:35] <TheData> hi @all
[12:36] <jrib> Guest40080: what are you referring to?
[12:36] <Guest49224> leaf-sheep, http://paste.ubuntu.com/222658/
[12:36] <leaf-sheep> jrib: Ubuntu Classroom?
[12:37] <oskar-> DysonReturns:  i don't know how to do it, but you can look for getting a "client" in a "windows domain". i think, the winbind service, which is part of samba, has to do with this
[12:37] <leaf-sheep> Guest40080: This will help too. I read that already. 60 pages. Not too long. http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/
[12:37] <jrib> leaf-sheep: next class seems to be on the 23rd though about packaging perl
[12:38] <hanne> guys and gals... is it possible for me to install a .deb upgrade or diff.gz in my ubuntu installation from a chrooted environment on a livecd?
[12:38] <leaf-sheep> jrib: What channel?
[12:38] <MyWay> I've installed Ubuntu 9.04 from the Alternate CD, because i wanted to install fake raid0, the problem is that, when i reboot at the end of the installation, i get: Missing operating system, before Grub's menu, somebody klnow what could be?
[12:39] <HotShowers> can someone tell me what's the difference between "wget localhost/myfile.txt --quiet -O-" and "wget localhost/myfile.txt --quiet -O /dev/stdout"
[12:39] <oskar-> MyWay:  but grub loads anyway?
[12:39] <iceroot> !opera
[12:39] <HotShowers> what does the "-O-" mean
[12:40] <MyWay> no oskar- :(
[12:40] <MyWay> i stop at the screen before
[12:40] <peppo> what's a recommended (free & relatively easy) way to backup a system install of ubuntu/hard disk image. in a way that is easy to restore?
[12:40] <TheData> partimage
[12:41] <jrib> !backup > peppo
[12:41] <peppo> TheData, can it save to a locally attached ntfs disk?
[12:41] <oskar-> MyWay:  is your root file system on a raid 0?
[12:41] <TheData> yes if it is mounted
[12:41] <leaf-sheep> HotShowers: "man wget"  Everything is in the manual.
[12:42] <MyWay> yes oskar-
[12:42] <TheData> @peppo: you can also compress it with gzip and partimage is in every major linux distro
[12:42] <MyWay> i made 4 partitions, 2 ext4, 2 swap to each hd, then i configured the raid0
[12:43] <MyWay> the installation end succesfully, but when i reboot i get this error :O
[12:44] <ceekays> \exit
[12:44] <h1d> is anyone running syslog-ng with mysql backend? I created a pipe using mkfifo, but that pipe does not seem to survive a reboot and it will flood the log saying the pipe is not available till fills up the disk space real fast.
[12:45] <h1d> i could put that in rc.local but syslog-ng has already started by the time rc.local is read
[12:45] <oskar-> MyWay:  hm, have you followed a guide? because this seems strange to me. grub would perhaps load, but would not be able to read a kernel image from a filesystem inside a raid0, except if the bios knows to handle it
[12:46] <gast> hi where can i get help to convert amr files?
[12:46] <Pidgin_> is it possible to call a yahoo id with skype ?
[12:46] <MyWay> yes oskar-
[12:46] <peppo> TheData, thanks. jrib, thanks.
[12:47] <sleepy_cat> is it possible for me to show the develors 3 pages of a pdf file..
[12:47] <MyWay> i followed a guide for 8.10, because i didn't find one for 9.04
[12:47] <sleepy_cat> like i upload a word document or something
[12:47] <sleepy_cat> site like pastebin
[12:47] <gast> amrnb ffmpeg and amrwb is what i found so far
[12:47] <Pidgin_> how can i call someone with yahoo id in linux ?
[12:48] <Pidgin_> how can i talk with someone who has a yahoo id ?
[12:48] <gast> is there a multimedia channel?
[12:48] <sleepy_cat> uh Pidgin_ using Pidgin messenger
[12:48] <sleepy_cat> :P
[12:48] <Fronk> you'll need to set it up to use your yahoo ID first though
[12:49] <sleepy_cat> u can also use Yahoo Messenger..via Wine
[12:49] <Pidgin_> sleepy_cat: with pidgin messenger i can chat ,but i can't talk ,can't call someone
[12:49] <sleepy_cat> strictly for voice chat
[12:49] <n0mic> can anyone tell me how to quickly and simply enable the frame buffer?
[12:49] <sleepy_cat> Pidgin_: use YM via wine
[12:49] <ceekays> \quit
[12:49] <sleepy_cat> but i doubt it will work exactly the same as on Windows
[12:49] <gast> is there a multimedia channel?
[12:50] <Pidgin_> sleepy_cat: i don't want to use yahoo messenger, is there any software to call someone ?
[12:50] <Pidgin_> is there any software to call someone who has a yahoo id ?
[12:52] <sleepy_cat> hmm have to take a look at then
[12:52] <sleepy_cat> I got a question i have a pdf file how can i edit it.. i mean i have a 10 pages pdf file i just want 3 pages out of it
[12:52] <sleepy_cat> can i achieve it
[12:53] <tim__b> sleepy_cat, try pdfedit from the backports.
[12:54] <sleepy_cat> backports
[12:54] <sleepy_cat> ?
[12:55] <TheData> sleepy_cat: got my message?
[12:56] <Pidgin_> is it possible to call someone in linux ?
[12:56] <Titan8990_> Pidgin_, if you are talking about VOIP, then yet
[12:56] <Titan8990_> !voip | Pidgin_
[12:56] <Titan8990_> !skype | Pidgin_
[12:57] <TheData> Any questions about Ubuntu?
[12:58] <King_Ozzy> hello
[12:58] <TheData> hi
[12:59] <Pidgin_> Titan8990_: it's possible to call a person who has a yahoo id ,is it possible in linux with pidgin?
[12:59] <paddy_melon> yes
[12:59] <richardcavell> Pidgin_: yes
[12:59] <paddy_melon> Pidgen rules
[13:00] <richardcavell> Pidgin_: Pidgin connects to the Yahoo network
[13:00] <Pidgin_> Titan8990_: i want to call a person who has a yahoo id ,i want to talk with someone who has a yahoo id ,not skype id
[13:00] <richardcavell> Pidgin_: works fine in Pidgin
[13:00] <Pidgin_> richardcavell: pidgin connect to yahoo network ,but it's not possible to call someone with pidgin ,is it ?
[13:00] <richardcavell> Pidgin_: you mean you want voice?
[13:01] <richardcavell> Pidgin_: for voice use ekiga or skype
[13:01] <paddy_melon> Pidgen has webcam doesnt it?
[13:01] <Pidgin_> Titan8990_: is there any software to call someone ?
[13:01] <King_Ozzy> when I try to access a shared folder on my linux computer from my windows computer, I'm entering the right password n such but it still won't show me the folder
[13:01] <Pidgin_> richardcavell: yes ,i want voice
[13:02] <Pidgin_> richardcavell: i don't want to call someone with skype id ,but  with yahoo id .will ekiga do the job for yahoo id ?
[13:02] <LLStarks> what does make -j(number) do?
[13:03] <Titan8990_> Pidgin_, not unless yahoo has a VOIP client of some kind
[13:04] <Titan8990_> Pidgin_, its about yahoo's support for VOIP if you are wanting to call them
[13:04] <paddy_melon> anybody know much about cracking/hacking servers
[13:04] <Titan8990_> Pidgin_, although, your best bet will just be to ask them for their phone number
[13:04] <Titan8990_> paddy_melon, maybe
[13:04] <paddy_melon> cool
[13:04] <paddy_melon> pm then
[13:04] <Pidgin_> Titan8990_: can i call someone and talk with them with ekiga ?
[13:05] <bastidrazor> LLStarks, read the 2nd page of the manpage for make.. man make in terminal
[13:05] <Titan8990_> Pidgin_, not with only their yahoo ID, no
[13:05] <whatis_tux> I have a wireless network card and I'm connected to a router. When I'm downloading at big speeds my internet connection stops and I have to disable and enable wlan0 interface to work again. Forcing the download to stay at low speed doesn't kill my internet connection. It's not my router's fault or my card's fault because in Windows I'm not facing these problems. What can I do?
[13:06] <Pidgin_> Titan8990_: so i can't call a people who has a yahoo id  with ekiga? so why should i use ekiga ? is ekiga similar to skype ?
[13:06] <mixo> how can i get an xterm to run when users login to an x session?
[13:06] <Titan8990_> Pidgin_, yes, its similar to skype
[13:07] <Gary> paddy_melon: that would not be a subject for this channel, or network
[13:07] <LLStarks> how do i change pages in a man?
[13:07] <bastidrazor> !startup > mixo
[13:07] <bastidrazor> LLStarks, you can use the arrow keys or scroll wheel or pg dn
[13:07] <LLStarks> doesn't change pages
[13:08] <linduxed> how do i list folders or files in the system that are owned by a certain group?
[13:08] <King_Ozzy> who can tell me how to fix my problem?
[13:08] <Pidgin_> Titan8990_: if i want to talk with someone , do i have to create a new ekiga account ?
[13:08] <LLStarks> nvm
[13:10] <King_Ozzy> .....
[13:10] <LLStarks> anyway, what should i run to make on a yonah core duo?
[13:10] <mixo> bastidrazor: after gnome,kde or what ever session a users chooses
[13:12] <bastidrazor> mixo, in gnome adding xterm to sessions will make it run, kde has a similar setting unsure about other WM
[13:14] <Pidgin_> how can i talk with someone  in ubuntu  9.04 ?
[13:14] <King_Ozzy> iso help
[13:15] <richardcavell> Hey everyone, I just want to say: I installed Firestarter yesterday and left my computer on while I went to work.  All day I've had people port scanning me.  Seriously, everyone install a firewall.
[13:15] <richardcavell> Best advice you've had on IRC today, people: Install a firewall and learn how to use it.
[13:15] <paddy_melon> lol
[13:16] <bastidrazor> richardcavell, or use a router.
[13:17] <richardcavell> paddy_melon: I'm not being funny.
[13:17] <paddy_melon> oh
[13:17] <King_Ozzy> can anyone actually hear me in this channel?
[13:17] <LLStarks> what j setting should i use in make for a dual core?
[13:17] <paddy_melon> yes, king ozzy
[13:17] <TheData1> yes king
[13:17] <richardcavell> bastidrazor: I was using a hardware firewall (router) before.  In fact, two connected in series.  But I forwarded some ports specifically to my computer to bypass the routers and set up a software firewall to re-establish the net.  My God!
[13:18] <King_Ozzy> any ideas on my problem?
[13:18] <paddy_melon> wat problem, king
[13:19] <alteregoa> my cat is meowing alll night
[13:19] <King_Ozzy> when I try to access a shared folder on my linux computer from my windows computer, I'm entering the right password n such but it still won't show me the folder
[13:19] <alteregoa> she gets excited about the ubuntu sounds
[13:19] <innociv> http://blog.evolutioncreations.com/2008/05/installing-openfire-on-ubuntu-804.html  nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' just hangs.. I have to ctrl+c to close it out.
[13:19] <innociv> anyone have an idea? :\
[13:19] <innociv> I keep looking around and i'm unable to fix this nohup problem
[13:20] <oskar-> King_Ozzy:  did you set the samba password for the used account with "smbpasswd"?
[13:21] <munna> helo
[13:21] <richardcavell> munna: hello
[13:21] <oskar-> innociv:  press ctrl+z, then type "bg" and then you can exit the shell
[13:21] <^cheeky> hi , i have a ubuntu 8.10 server which i sshed into and tried to do upgrade and then i did a upgrade but i got this message . :http://pastebin.com/mdc10c31. iam trying to install webmin ,
[13:21] <munna> i need to use compiz on my computer
[13:21] <innociv> oskar, but I need the command to actually work and fix the nohup problem D:
[13:21] <King_Ozzy> it's asking for an old password, but i didn't set one before....
[13:22] <alteregoa> heh
[13:22] <alteregoa> how can i disable the ubuntu firewall?
[13:22] <alteregoa> ufw disable?
[13:22] <alteregoa> i got a hardware firewall with snort and stuff i don't need a ubuntu wall, there is enough wall in china
[13:23] <oskar-> King_Ozzy:  "sudo smbpasswd -a <user>" should avoid the question for the old password
[13:23] <richardcavell> alteregoa: how did you set it up?
[13:23] <munna> i need to enable speacial efects on my computer but i cant and if i can how do i do it if i cant whats the broblem
[13:23] <alteregoa> i got 9.04
[13:23] <memphis^1> alterego, its a service so, disable it by typing "sudo /etc/int.d/ufw disable"
[13:23] <King_Ozzy> that did it, thank you
[13:24] <alteregoa> yeah i did that, but hamachi doesnt' work for unknow reason
[13:24] <munna> i need to enable speacial efects on my computer but i cant and if i can how do i do it if i cant whats the problem
[13:24] <richardcavell> memphis^1: sudo /etc/init.d/ufw stop
[13:24] <richardcavell> alteregoa: sudo /etc/init.d/ufw stop
[13:24] <alteregoa> yeah i always work as root in terminal sudo su root
[13:25] <alteregoa> tommorow i get 4 new 1tb harddrives
[13:25] <munna> i need to enable speacial efects on my computer but i cant and if i can how do i do it if i cant whats the broblem
[13:25] <richardcavell> okay boys and girls I'm downloading Half-Life on Steam and you guys are using up bandwidth so I'm gonna say good night
[13:25] <munna> cant some 1 help
[13:25] <alteregoa> i hope i can add those drives to the array without any problems
[13:26] <richardcavell> cya
[13:26] <paddy_melon> good night richard
[13:26] <alteregoa> well mdadm helps god
[13:26] <munna> ok
[13:26] <munna> i need to enable speacial efects on my computer but i cant and if i can how do i do it if i cant whats the broblem
[13:26] <oskar-> !repeat | munna
[13:26] <King_Ozzy> have you installed proprietary drivers for video?
[13:26] <Yanick_> hi, is there a GUI tool for Ubuntu to connect to a SVN server and browse the file (hopefully not nautilus-svn)?
[13:26] <Yanick_> +s
[13:26] <munna> ok
[13:27] <munna> now i know what ubotu said was false
[13:27] <sleepy_cat> munna: u r an indian
[13:27] <munna> nooooooo
[13:27] <munna> welll
[13:27] <munna> im a fresh indian
[13:27] <King_Ozzy> wtf?
[13:28] <memphis^1> munna, did you install the video driver?
[13:28] <sleepy_cat> whats a fresh indian
[13:28] <munna> but dipid in north america
[13:28] <munna> ? come again whats a vid drive
[13:29] <memphis^1> munna, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[13:29] <Yanick_> munna, what is your video card?
[13:29] <munna> ummmm
[13:29] <Yanick_> what memphis^1 said
[13:29] <munna> thats what i need to findout
[13:29] <munna> how do i
[13:29] <Yanick_> munna, before you enable advanced features, I suggest you get familiar with linux first
[13:29] <oskar-> munna:  pastebin the output of the command "lspci" and tell us the url
[13:30] <munna> oooook
[13:30] <munna> im a coder
[13:30] <munna> sory
[13:30] <Yanick_> .... so am I
[13:30] <munna> and im quite familiar with ubuntu this is my dads
[13:31] <munna> mine works fine
[13:31] <innociv> http://pastebin.com/m598a4a4d can someone tell me what's going on here?  Getting permissio denied using sudo
[13:31] <innociv> i dont normally
[13:31] <munna> yank<
[13:31] <munna> how do i findout my graphic card
[13:32] <likewise> What's up with keyserver.ubuntu.com? Does someone have key CEC06767 (NVidia PPA)?
[13:32] <oskar-> munna:  pastebin the output of the command "lspci"
[13:32] <grawity> likewise: Try pool.sks-keyservers.net
[13:32] <munna> what
[13:32] <memphis^1> munna, type "lspci" in a terminal and look for a line containing VGA Adapter or something like that... paste the line hiere
[13:32] <munna> ok
[13:32] <likewise> grawity: will try, tnx
[13:32] <grawity> likewise: IIRC, Ubuntu's was a part of SKS Keyservers pool, so they are synced.
[13:33] <Yanick_> munna, type : lspci | grep "VGA compatible controller" to filter out the info
[13:35] <memphis^1> munna, open the terminal via Applications, Acce
[13:35] <memphis^1> coris --> Terminal
[13:35] <likewise> grawity: hmm, also hangs on gpg requesting the key there...
[13:35] <mazda01> anyone have a suggestion for getting audio and video back in sync within ubuntu?
[13:35] <ShapeShifter499> ok I'm having Ubuntu + Windows nightmares can someone help?
[13:36] <paddy_melon> nightmares
[13:36] <paddy_melon> ?
[13:36] <farroos> colors
[13:36] <mazda01> i have an avi file where the audio is behind the video but I am not sure how many seconds. I checked out kdenlive but not sure how I can tell how many seconds the video and audio is off by?
[13:36] <innociv> anyone? I'm getting permission denied on something when using sudo.  http://pastebin.com/m598a4a4d
[13:38] <mazda01> i can't help inciv. well, can you use sudo on any other commands and it works? i am not sure how to write code and have it use sudo.
[13:38] <mazda01> ShapeShifter499, with grub? you just need to ask you question instead of a statement
[13:38] <thefr34k> in Ubuntu I am unable to adjust my laptop screen brightness using the Fn Key shortuct, where could i go to increase the brightness?
[13:39] <innociv> mazda01, yes sudo works fine on other things
[13:40] <_ruben> innociv: the access denied is because output redirection is done by your own user, not the sudo user
[13:40] <innociv> what can I do about it?
[13:40] <_ruben> innociv: depends on what you're trying to achieve .. the command in the pastebin surely doesnt look very useful to me
[13:41] <Spikemcc> My last uses with ubuntu : tv tuner, multi-monitoring, frets on fire, backup, encryption, printer, modem, wardriving, multi-gamepad, Age of empire 2 Conqueror
[13:41] <Spikemcc> issues sorry !!!
[13:41] <Ravahan> Hello folks.  Anyone have any experience with Genesis emulators?
[13:41] <innociv> honestly no idea.  Some fix for an error openfire gives.  It says to do it in openfire install guides to fix an error I'm getting.
[13:41] <farroos> q
[13:42] <StrangeCharm> is there a guide for manually installing 9.04 server in an encrypted lvm
[13:42] <ShapeShifter499> here's the problem I have a Acer Aspire One with ubuntu 9.04 installed, I want to run Windows XP in a Vbox on that Ubuntu install but can't due to the fact I got rid of the recovery partition on that computer, I do have a full dd command backup of the old windows xp that use to be on it but can't use that one because it remembers the old partition it was on an refuses to run on any other...
[13:42] <ShapeShifter499> ...partition, unless I put a registry hack into that windows install but I can't edit the registry of that windows, so my question that I want to know is can I fix the backup of windows to make it runnable in either or both a Vbox and just straght out booting it?
[13:42] <ShapeShifter499> *straight
[13:42] <Spikemcc> Ravahan check on wikipedia emulator
[13:43] <mazda01> innociv, then I am not sure.
[13:44] <ShapeShifter499> I all ready tried a lot of things to edit the registry and other stuff but nothing works
[13:44] <innociv> is there a way i can like log into root when i have root login disabled? -_- Lol.
[13:44] <Spikemcc> a tv tuner specialist here ?
[13:44] <farroos> ShapeShifter499 can you try and make your partitions same as your old ones?
[13:44] <Ravahan> Spike: Well, I'm having a specific issue here... I've got ZNES working fine with my Logitech Rumblepad, but I've tried DGen and Gens/GS so far and I can't get either of them to recognize the gamepad exists
[13:44] <Ravahan> And I'm wondering if anyone knows why that might be?
[13:44] <Tomatix> innociv, like, sudo -s -H ?
[13:44] <Ravahan> I'm rather new to linux
[13:45] <Ademan> is there a way to create further restrictive app armor policies as an unprivileged user?  I'm just trying to figure out the best way to make a "safe" wine, where I could run totally untrusted executables and feel completely assured that at worst my WINEPREFIX will get borked...
[13:45] <Alvinware> I want to workable Ubuntu DVD Burner?
[13:45] <error404notfound> why do i get "E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-security" ?
[13:45] <Ademan> Ravahan: because DGen is really primitive, you'll need to make a config file
[13:45] <Spikemcc> Ravahan try kcontrol to detect and make a gamepad setup ...
[13:45] <ohir> ShapeShifter499: no you can not 'fix' windoze image.
[13:45] <innociv> ty
[13:45] <Spikemcc> zsnes detect gamepads but not dgen
[13:46] <Ravahan> I just installed Gens/GS today, and I like having the GUI... How could I go about getting that to detect the gamepad?
[13:46] <Alvinware> What's the best, and workable dvd burner for ubuntu?
[13:46] <ShapeShifter499> farroos: how? the old partition setup was the MBR, The recovery partition, and the windows
[13:46] <Ravahan> Like I said, I'm pretty new to windows.  Anyone got a KB article for me on the config file or something?
[13:46] <Spikemcc> sudo apt-get install kcontrol (in your terminal) then do in it : kcontrol ...
[13:46] <Ravahan> to linux*
[13:46] <Alvinware> ubottu: dvd burner.
[13:47] <innociv> sighh..
[13:47] <innociv> still getting error
[13:47] <ShapeShifter499> farroos: and the recovery partition  is gone now
[13:47] <ohir> ShapeShifter499: you _may_try to use vmware migration tools to set windoze on vmdk image file and use that with vbox later. If VMW tools still are free.
[13:47] <unop> innociv, what is your error now?
[13:47] <arand> I have a patch: http://pastebin.com/f11595374
[13:47] <ShapeShifter499> ohir: hows that going to help?
[13:47] <innociv> well gettting that nohup error.. but openfire is running so i guess it's okay
[13:48] <unop> error404notfound, try updating apt before running that command.  sudo aptitude update
[13:48] <alteregoa> i hope hans burn in hell if he see btfrs in kernel
[13:48] <ohir> ShapeShifter499: one way or another it entails restoring your dd backup and fresh install (if OEM image on ASone allows it).
[13:49] <ohir> ShapeShifter499: the hardware inside virtual machine is NOT that of your AOne. Windows can not be freely moved between different hw configs.
[13:49] <DJones> Alvinware: Do you mean software for burning dvd's?  I use Gnomebaker or K3b and they both work fine for me
[13:49] <arand> I have a patch: http://pastebin.com/f11595374 which I'm trying to apply to goffice I have apt-get sourced it but I can't get syntax right for command "patch" would not "patch -p1 patch.diff" work if wd is ./goffice/ ??
[13:50] <Ravahan> Spike:  It says that kcontrol isn't available, but "kdelibs4c2a kdebase-workspace-bin" replaces it, and gives the message "E: Package kcontrol has no installation candidate"
[13:51] <ShapeShifter499> Can anyone here take someone's Windows Xp registry files and edit them?
[13:51] <ShapeShifter499> like mine?
[13:51] <Ravahan> hehe
[13:51] <ohir> rotfl
[13:51] <grawity> I see nothing funny in that.
[13:52] <Ravahan> Shape: Registry editing is kind of tricky, especially if not done through the registry editor-- I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm quite familiar enough to chance your system here
[13:52] <ShapeShifter499> I'll just backup the files just in case
[13:52] <Ravahan> However, the registry should be recoverable to a previous version...
[13:52] <ohir> ShapeShifter499: you already has been hinted how to do it: Restore, install, migrate to vmdk, move to vbox. EOT.
[13:52] <Pici> ShapeShifter499: You may be able to open an external registry hive file using Wine's regedit, but I'm not sure if that will actually work.
[13:52] <Ravahan> If you can access the recovery console
[13:52] <ShapeShifter499> can't all ready tried wine
[13:53]  * moncky wonders if he stumbled into #windows
[13:53] <Ravahan> There's a article in the support.microsoft.com database on doing a hive recovery via the recovery console
[13:53] <Ravahan> and if you think that would help, I suggest ya look into it.
[13:53] <ohir> Pici: he tries to manually set up in "registry" to let windoze work on another hardware layer.
[13:53] <blind|melon|chit> moncky: Well someone asked for help hacking a server in here and nothing came of it either, I'm guessing the ops are all on vacation :P
[13:53] <grawity> moncky: Try ##linux. It can become #food, #philosophy, #porn and #apple - at once.
[13:53] <Pici> ShapeShifter499: ##windows would be the best place to continue troubleshooting. We can't support Windows here.
[13:53] <Ademan> Ravahan: run this command 'zcat /usr/share/doc/dgen/examples/sample.dgenrc.gz > ~/.dgen/dgenrc'   (without the single quotes) in a terminal.  It will put an example of the config file into use, you can then customize it, it has directions at the top
[13:53] <ShapeShifter499> ok Pici
[13:54] <Ravahan> Ademan: I will be very happy to try that.  Give me a moment
[13:54] <ShapeShifter499> going to windows IRC
[13:56] <Ravahan> Ademan: Alright, I ran that but didn't see any visible effect.  How can I access this config file, if it did go through (I assume it did as I didn't receive an error).
[13:56] <Spikemcc> tv tuner specialist here ????
[13:57] <Ademan> Ravahan: it is in your home directory (signified by the ~)  in the directory .dgen in linux all files that start with a . are hidden, so if you go to places->home folder  and then in the new window go to view->show hidden files  you should see a directory '.dgen'  and in there is the file 'dgenrc' which you can double click and edit
[13:58] <Ravahan> Ademan: Alrighty, let me see what I can find out here-- Thanks!!
[13:58] <Ravahan> I'll be a minute, gotta let the dog out
[13:59] <Ademan> Ravahan: no problem
[13:59] <Spikemcc> tv tuner, multi-monitoring, frets on fire, backup, encryption, printer, modem, wardriving, multi-gamepad, age of empire II conqueror who is good to get one of theses things working on linux ???
[14:00] <Nitrousoxide> Hello everyone, i have installed xubuntu over ubuntu server using apt-get, my network connetivity worked in server, but not xubuntu
[14:01] <mattgyver> Hi, i would like to setup my psybnc to start when my server boots, how can i do this?  Can i set it so its not run as root?
[14:01] <cow_lg_pgen_cow> dancokkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[14:01] <Spikemcc> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:01] <Nitrousoxide> Spike?
[14:01] <Nitrousoxide> Yes i know
[14:02] <Spikemcc> so what isn't working ?
[14:02] <alteregoa> i want ubuntu apollo
[14:02] <Nitrousoxide> Ok
[14:02] <Nitrousoxide> Before i installed xubuntu
[14:02] <Pici> !enter
[14:02] <alteregoa> whats a ubuntu without gui? ubuntu termuntu?
[14:02] <Alvinware> Any one a pro in ubuntu cd/dvd burn? please IM me, help me. Thankx.
[14:03] <Nitrousoxide> network connectivity worked, but after i lost it. Zubuntu doesnt seem like it picks up my card
[14:03] <Spikemcc> Alvinware take k3b on linux
[14:03] <Nitrousoxide> Any ideas spike?
[14:03] <Pici> alteregoa: Either the Minimal CD or the Server CD will install Ubuntu without a graphical environment.
[14:03] <Alvinware> Spikemcc, i can't erase disc with k3b!
[14:03] <Nitrousoxide> Spike, typo Xubuntu*
[14:04] <Spikemcc> sudo apt-get install wicd (a better network manager)
[14:04] <alecs> hi there!
[14:04] <Pici> mattgyver: One way would be to put the command into your user's crontab (editable via: crontab -e) see   man 5 crontab   for the syntax of the file itself.
[14:04] <alecs> is there a free software to process audio files? (a software like soundforge for those who know )
[14:04] <tehbaut> how do I shrink a part in gparted?
[14:04] <Nitrousoxide> Spike, Your a genius, how can i do that without netowrk connectivity?
[14:04] <tehbaut> I'm getting no options on this drive I want to split
[14:05] <Nitrousoxide> spike, so anyway, what would happed if a apt ubuntu onto it, will it collide with xubuntu?
[14:05] <Yorix> im having trouble with ubuntus tomcat6 instance, it doesnt print jasperReports
[14:05] <Yorix> can anybody help me?
[14:05] <Nitrousoxide> spike, or would it deal with it properly?
[14:06] <Pici> Yorix: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server as well, as they're probably a bit more knowledgable about tomcat than we are.
[14:06] <Spikemcc> Nitrous they can collide a little ...
[14:06] <Yorix> Pici: thx man
[14:06] <Yorix> Pici: will do
[14:06] <Spikemcc> Alvinware in your terminal when de cd is in the burner : cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/cdrom -eject blank=fast -force
[14:07] <Nitrousoxide> spike, will i get an option to select from either, or will the machine spaz out?
[14:08] <Nitrousoxide> soike, is there a way of getting that package via windwos, then onto USB?, the server has absolutley NO network connectivity
[14:08] <Spikemcc> Nitrousoxide I got xubuntu,ubuntu,kubuntu in one buntu, they do what they can ... but don't crash each others ...
[14:08] <linduxed> can i have a file owned by multiple groups?
[14:08] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: What, can you select what to boot with?
[14:09] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: for the ui that is?
[14:09] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: When you get to the login screen, there is a sessions button that will let you pick from KDE/Gnome/XFCE, etc.
[14:09] <Spikemcc> tehbaut just resize it in gparted as you want
[14:09] <tehbaut> anyone know why my options are grayed out for a drive partition in gparted?
[14:09] <shivek_> Can anyone help on the concept of port forwarding ?
[14:09] <Nitrousoxide> Pici:thought so
[14:09] <DJones> tehbaut: Is the partition mounted?
[14:09] <paddy-melon> damn u
[14:09] <tehbaut> DJones, yes... I can unmount it
[14:09] <paddy-melon> there u are
[14:09] <tehbaut> that option isn't grayed out
[14:10] <Spikemcc> Nitrousoxide maybe by the ubuntu repositories ... but it need dependances ...
[14:10] <bernardlychan> paddy-melon:
[14:10] <bernardlychan> u there?
[14:10] <paddy-melon> yep
[14:10] <bernardlychan> om
[14:10] <bernardlychan> pm
[14:10] <Spikemcc> google : ubuntu package search
[14:10] <paddy-melon> irc crashed
[14:10] <Spikemcc> linduxed yes
[14:10] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: Ok, i need help badly, how can i get the package, the netowrk one youy sent me, how can i get it onto my other machine?
[14:10] <paddy-melon> ur not there...
[14:10] <Pici> !offline | Nitrousoxide
[14:11] <DJones> tehbaut: If its not your system partition, you should be able to, if its a system partition, you'd be better using starting up with a live cd and using gparted from that, you can't modify partitions when they're mounted
[14:11] <Spikemcc> I use mostly gdm with lxde or gnome ...
[14:11] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: im thinking usb
[14:11] <linduxed> Spikemcc: how do i do that?
[14:11] <Nitrousoxide> One problem
[14:11] <Pici> !enter | Nitrousoxide
[14:11] <Nitrousoxide> I dont have Synaptic
[14:11] <^cheeky> hi, sorry but how do i find out my group id in ubuntu server in command line ?
[14:11] <greengiant> hello all, how are you
[14:11] <Pici> ^cheeky: groups
[14:11] <tehbaut> DJones, so I need to unmount the partition? (It's a USB drive)
[14:11] <Alvinware> ubottu, what's ISO9660?
[14:11] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: sorry, but i dont have synaptic, im using xubuntu.
[14:12] <Titan8990_> ^cheeky, cat /etc/groups
[14:12] <PcPixel> im trying to justify using Ubuntu as the Linux OS for one of our servers here. But my boss has two concerns: 1. he requires a company be behind the distro. Canonical is the company behind Ubuntu correct? 2. Are the patches pushed out for the free version the same as the ones for the paid support?
[14:12] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: but ill try using the URL
[14:12] <Alvinware> What's ISO 9660?
[14:12] <DJones> tehbaut: Yes, you should be able to unmount a usb drive, i'm guessing that its just data thats on it
[14:12] <moncky> Alvinware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660
[14:12] <Tomatix> Alvinware, the ISO standard for CD-ROMs, I guess
[14:12] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, ubuntu can be used as a server but is a more desktop oriented distro
[14:12] <tehbaut> yep
[14:12] <Pici> Alvinware: Its the international standard that defines what an CD image (.ISO) file is.
[14:12] <Nitrousoxide> Alvinware: Definatley a format
[14:12] <PcPixel> Titan: I would use Ubuntu Server LTS
[14:12] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, its about speaking to the mainstream standard user, not so much production servers
[14:12] <Spikemcc> Nitrousoxide > http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:13] <moncky> !google
[14:13] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, red hat has excellent support but will come with a hefty price tag
[14:13] <Nitrousoxide> Spike: so what ones you recon?
[14:13] <PcPixel> Titan: Correct. That's why Im looking at Ubuntu
[14:13] <munna> helo
[14:13] <^cheeky> Titan8990_, so then my gid would look like this adm:x:4:cheeky . where 4 is my id number and cheeky being my user id ?
[14:13] <PcPixel> But it's gotta meet those 2 criteria first.
[14:13] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, ubuntu would be my last choice for a server id
[14:13] <Ravahan> Ademan: That's definatly a step in the right direction.  DGen is now realizing there's something plugged in at least.  I'm changing the settings for # Joypad 1 and saving, but the changes don't seem to be applying.  Am I editing the correct section of the config file?
[14:13] <Titan8990_> ^cheeky, yep
[14:14] <munna> i need help with speacial efects
[14:14] <Titan8990_> ^cheeky, that is a GUID not your user's ID
[14:14] <homovitruvius> experience w/ the bluetooth apple mouse and ubuntu? In particular, do the left and right "buttons" work? Thx.
[14:14] <compilerII> Hello 'Abantu'(=ubuntu users), I am trying to setup netboot on my ubuntu 9.04. However I am a bit confused: which file needs to be configured for tftp file transfer: /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa or /etc/xinetd.d/conf/tftp
[14:14] <PcPixel> Titan: Really? Why?
[14:14] <Spikemcc> PcPixel Canonical and you can buy commercial support ... it cost not as much as windows but most usages are safes
[14:14] <Alvinware> I got this error from Brasero.
[14:14] <^cheeky> Titan8990_, 4 is right
[14:14] <Alvinware> Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency burn.c:1905)
[14:14] <Alvinware> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action
[14:14] <Alvinware> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action
[14:14] <Alvinware> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_set_output_size_for_current_track
[14:14] <Alvinware> BraseroBurnURI stopping
[14:14] <Alvinware> BraseroBurnURI called brasero_job_get_action
[14:14] <FloodBot3> Alvinware: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: can you walk me through installing packages?
[14:14] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, I hate their release schedules and design choices. I dislike apparmor and upstart and wouldn't trust it on my production server
[14:15] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, although, i would recommend it as a desktop OS for a new linux user
[14:15] <ascheel> compilerII: my recommendation is to use the flash installer.
[14:15] <munna> i cant put them my graphic card is a ati and its saying its checking for drivers but it gives the result as unable to enable speacial efects
[14:15] <StrangeCharm> is ext4 good enough for production use?
[14:15] <ohir> Titan8990_: ummm... any new shiny free as free beer distro with strong company behind emerged?
[14:15] <Spikemcc> Nitrousoxide you will be ok ... which version of ubuntu haved you ?
[14:15] <Alvinware> error.
[14:15] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: Jaunty
[14:15] <Alvinware> i got that error.
[14:15] <Pici> !enter
[14:16] <paddy_melon> soz
[14:16] <Titan8990_> ohir, no, pretty much novell and redhat run the paid scene
[14:16] <Nitrousoxide> spikemcc: What files do i download, and do i just execute them once their on the machine?
[14:16] <PcPixel> Titan: My problem is budget cuts. we dont really have any $$ to spend with this economy
[14:16] <ohir> PcPixel: Ubuntu LTS server is the sole one server distribution that meets corporate (your 1 & 2) needs.
[14:16] <PcPixel> and my boss won't ust any linux distro without a compoanybehind it
[14:16] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, your boss in an idiot
[14:16] <PcPixel> Titan: Trust me. You don't know the half of it.
[14:17] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, a good IT staff will beat the warm fuzzies he gets from that any day
[14:17] <Spikemcc> PcPixel red hat for a comercial linux with support, ubuntu is nice also but server is just a second use ...
[14:17] <PcPixel> All I need it for is a WebDAV file server.
[14:17] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, LOL
[14:17] <erUSUL> !ot | Titan8990_ PcPixel
[14:17] <Titan8990_> PcPixel, use anything
[14:17] <PcPixel> titan: We're a Windows shop here w/ 200+ clients and no ActiveDirectory. You well me.
[14:17] <jeagle> PcPixel-> look into RedHat, they are going to go big, becoming a member of SP500
[14:17] <PcPixel> tell
[14:17] <ohir> Titan8990_: his boss is sane person who knows how he is going to have CIO and CFO support linux.
[14:17] <PcPixel> jeagle: I can't afford RedHat right now.
[14:17] <Pici> Please move the non-support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:18] <ohir> ok
[14:18] <PcPixel> That's why I was asking about the patches. Whether I pay for Ubuntu support ot not are the same patches released to all clients?
[14:18] <ohir> PcPixel: yes
[14:18] <Threetimes> PcPixel: exactly the same
[14:18] <Pici> PcPixel: Thats more of a question for Canonical, we do not represent them here.
[14:18] <honey^moon> madin
[14:19] <rhpot1991> is there a good channel to ask about printing issues?
[14:19] <Spikemcc> nitrousoxide > http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/jaunty/wicd > http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/wicd/download > http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wicd/wicd_1.5.9-2_all.deb
[14:19] <korw> Is anyone fermiliar with this error? mdadm: failed to create /dev/md0
[14:19] <moncky> PcPixel: yes, you pay for support, so if you have somthing that doesnt work, RedHat/Novell/canonical will fix it for you
[14:19] <ohir> PcPixel: paid support is for knowledge Cannonical staff will give your company, not for files you download.
[14:19] <Threetimes> rhpot1991: if it's in ubuntu, just ask it here
[14:19] <PcPixel> Ok thats what I needed
[14:19] <munna> i cant put them my graphic card is a ati and its saying its checking for drivers but it gives the result as unable to enable speacial efects
[14:19] <munna> cant some 1 help
[14:19] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemcc: ok let me attempt to install
[14:20] <Threetimes> munna: what grapics card dou you have?
[14:20] <munna> ati
[14:20] <aamir> Good Morning Room !
[14:20] <aamir> I am in In Ubuntu world.
[14:20] <Alvinware> I must format each empty new disc before i can use it for burning, right?
[14:20] <Threetimes> munna: exactly?
[14:20] <munna> ummmm
[14:20] <Just031> boa tarde
[14:20] <munna> there was a comand that i tried
[14:20] <Threetimes> munna: is it an HD 2xxx? HD 3xxx? HD 4xxx?
[14:20] <Nitrousoxide> Oh a general question, can *buntu read NTFS filesystems?
[14:20] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Yes.
[14:21] <munna> and it had somthing with ati
[14:21] <aamir> Good Morning Room !
[14:21] <aamir>  I am in In Ubuntu world.
[14:21] <Pici> !enter | aamir
[14:21] <ascheel> Nitrousoxide: Absolutely it can.  Read and write.
[14:21] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: much appreciated
[14:21] <munna> aamir
[14:21] <erUSUL> Alvinware: no; cd-r do not need formatting... cd-rw do need it though
[14:21] <bastidrazor>  Alvinware no, if they are new they are empty already
[14:21] <munna> stop
[14:21] <ascheel> !ntfs | Nitrousoxide
[14:21] <munna> i dont know
[14:21] <Alvinware> How about dvd+rw?
[14:21] <munna> three
[14:21] <Threetimes> munna: try glxinfo | grep "renderer string"
[14:21] <Nitrousoxide> !fat
[14:22] <ascheel> !who | Alvinware
[14:22] <munna> is that a comand
[14:22] <Spikemcc> munna try envyng in the terminal : 1- sudo apt-get install envyng 2- envyng -t
[14:22] <Threetimes> munna: yes
[14:22] <Nitrousoxide> That failed, checking for FAT -family support
[14:22] <ascheel> !who | munna
[14:22] <ascheel> Nitrousoxide: FAT32, FAT16, NTFS, all supported, both read and write
[14:22] <munna> say it again
[14:22] <Threetimes> munna: glxinfo | grep "renderer string"
[14:22] <Nitrousoxide> ascheel: thanks again
[14:23] <ascheel> Nitrousoxide: my pleasure
[14:23] <erUSUL> Alvinware: dvd-rw may need formatting if they where used
[14:23] <Threetimes> munna: Mine says "OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT"
[14:23] <munna> wait
[14:24] <munna> unknown chip id 0x94c9, can't guess.
[14:24] <munna> OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[14:24] <rhpot1991> ok so printing, I have a pixma ip 8500, cups had a setting for this by default.  Image quality is pretty bad, I'm thinking its because it can only do 600dpi.  So I guess the first thing I'd like to know is if there is a way I can change this, I can't seem to find a ppd associated with the printer to modify.
[14:24] <munna> unknown chip id 0x94c9, can't guess.OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterize
[14:24] <rhpot1991> Next issue, I can't seem to find a way to print 4x6 in gnome appe, it keeps reverting to A4 or letter
[14:24] <rhpot1991> in any gnome app that is
[14:24] <Threetimes> munna: that's weird...
[14:25] <erUSUL> rhpot1991: linuxprinting.org is a good resource
[14:25] <munna> what it means
[14:25] <Threetimes> munna: try lspci | grep Radeon
[14:25] <munna> including
[14:25] <Threetimes> munna: it's probably a radeon :o
[14:25] <rhpot1991> thanks erUSUL, I'll check it out
[14:25] <munna> grep radeon
[14:25] <henrik_> Hi! When using screen, I get some stats etc on the bottom - and it's showing "86!!" with a red background. Is that the CPU temp?
[14:26] <Threetimes> munna: use a capital R
[14:26] <Alvinware> erUSUL,  An internal error occured (brasero_burn_record burn.c:2599), brasero.
[14:26] <erUSUL> henrik_: i think they are updates to install
[14:26] <mrtn1231> why is there a symbolic link called "ubuntu" in Ubuntu installation CD root? "File ubuntu" gives "ubuntu: symbolic link to `.'". Any ideas?
[14:26] <henrik_> 86 updates to install? Oh, okay! Cheers
[14:26] <munna> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 2400
[14:26] <munna> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV610 audio device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
[14:26] <munna> munna@ubuntu:~$
[14:26] <indus> hi
[14:26] <Threetimes> !paste | munna
[14:26] <ascheel> !hi | indus
[14:27] <Cah> oi
[14:27] <indus> !hi | ascheel
[14:27] <Threetimes> munna: so is a HD 2400
[14:27] <munna> ok sorry
[14:27] <erUSUL> henrik_: yep. just do « sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade »
[14:27] <indus> :)
[14:27] <henrik_> erUSUL: Let's see, upgrading all updates now, and we'll see.
[14:27] <Cah> hi
[14:27] <Cah> my name is carol
[14:27] <thefr34k> in Ubuntu I am unable to adjust my laptop screen brightness smartdimmer and xbacklight report errors - Using Geforce 8400M
[14:27] <indus> erUSUL: why would you recommend aptitute and not apt?
[14:27] <Cah> and your??
[14:27] <Threetimes> munna: you need to install the latest drivers from ATi, I have the ubuntu packages at http://peter-server.homelinux.net/fxglrx/9.6/
[14:27] <ascheel> indus, same thing
[14:27] <erUSUL> Alvinware: i duuno sorry you can try with other burning program ? gnomebaker for example ?
[14:27] <cudev> So, why is it that just after boot, I get the message "Stopping ntp server, Starting ntp server" over and over again?
[14:27] <munna> will that help
[14:28] <henrik_> Last questions - how do I customize screen? I really don't see the point of having the date and time there, especially when I'm wearing a wrist watch
[14:28] <Threetimes> munna: you only need the .deb files, you won't need the large .run file
[14:28] <indus> cudev: thats cos taht service is configured to run at start up
[14:28] <Threetimes> munna: this will certainly help!
[14:28] <munna> ummm
[14:28] <indus> henrik_: right click and delete it
[14:28] <cudev> indus: I'm getting it over my terminal prompt, after startup is finished
[14:28] <munna> i dont know what to do now
[14:28] <erUSUL> indus: is more modern/advanced ? althought many of the things that made aptitude better are being "backported" to apt
[14:28] <munna> noooo
[14:29] <cudev> indus: It happens for a good few minutes
[14:29] <Threetimes> munna: download all the .deb files to a folder, and double-click on them all
[14:29] <erUSUL> henrik_: edit ~/.screenrc
[14:29] <munna> i dont have i386
[14:29] <indus> erUSUL: its no longer more advanced, and it is old compared to apt i believe so
[14:29] <henrik_> indus: I'm talking about screen as the program, not the desktop! :) Headless server
[14:29] <munna> i use amd64
[14:29] <Threetimes> you can do it command-line, with one command
[14:29] <henrik_> erUSUL: Cheers!
[14:29] <Pici> !who | munna
[14:29] <Nitrousoxide> Spikemmc: ive never been as scaired in my life, how the hell do i install this =], so many contridictory instructions.
[14:29] <munna> i dont have i386
[14:29] <erUSUL> indus: fair enough; use whatever you prefer i will do the same thanks ;P
[14:30] <Threetimes> munna: ok, you'll need the 64bit drivers then. I'll have them in 5 minutes
[14:30] <paddy-melon> heyllo
[14:30] <Pici> munna: Who are you talking to? Please prefix your lines with their name.
[14:30] <munna> :d
[14:30] <munna> :D
[14:30] <paddy-melon> anyone here know much about cracking/hacking server
[14:30] <indus> erUSUL: heh didnt mean it ina bad way :) just read that somewhere
[14:30] <munna> umm isnt that illegal
[14:30] <Nitrousoxide> munna: yes
[14:31] <munna> then why do it
[14:31] <rayno_b> Hello there - I need assistance to allow a mail server to be allowed to send mail.  This mail server is behind a squid proxy server.
[14:31] <indus>  depends on what he wants to do
[14:31] <Pici> paddy-melon: This is not the place to discuss such things.
[14:31] <Nitrousoxide> munna: thats why im not about to tell him =]
[14:31] <Pici> !illegal | paddy_melon
[14:31] <munna> u know how to do it
[14:31] <indus> Pici: hacking a server doestn mean piracy
[14:31] <paddy_melon> wow
[14:32] <Nitrousoxide> munna: it matters what hacking, but lets not discuss
[14:32] <Threetimes> munna: no, i just download them from ATi's site and make ubuntu packages out of it. You can do it yourself if you want
[14:32] <paddy_melon> didnt expect that
[14:32] <bernardlychan> fuck u paddy_melon
[14:32] <munna> ?
[14:32] <paddy_melon> oooh
[14:32] <Pici> bernardlychan: Watch the language, that is uncalled for here.
[14:32] <indus> Pici: but ill let him complete his question anyway
[14:32] <Nitrousoxide> HEy
[14:32] <Threetimes> munna: just 2 minutes...
[14:32] <munna> how do u do it
[14:32] <bernardlychan> take that bitch
[14:32] <Nitrousoxide> Language
[14:32] <munna> did you find the packages
[14:32] <munna> m
[14:33] <paddy_melon> Fuck u, u mother fucking cunt iece of shit bernardlychan
[14:33] <Nitrousoxide> Stop it.
[14:33] <jpds> paddy_melon: Please stop.
[14:33] <munna> ok
[14:33] <munna> stopit you to
[14:33] <indus> what athe hell is with these people
[14:33] <munna> two
[14:33] <Threetimes> munna: i download them from ATi's site and make ubuntu packages out of it. You can do it yourself if you want
[14:33] <Nitrousoxide> Stop swaerin' now, This is a help channel, not a insult channel
[14:33] <Nitrousoxide> an*
[14:33] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Its been taken care of.
[14:33] <Kan3> Hi, I want to install Javam is there any way to installing using Synaptic pkg. mgr. ?
[14:33] <ascheel> !language | indus
[14:33] <munna> that isnt helping threetimes
[14:33] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: Ah, ok
[14:34] <cudev> Alright then, that was admittingly a little entertaining...
[14:34] <Pici> !java | Kan3
[14:34] <indus> lol what did i say ascheel
[14:34] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: can you help me, how do i install packages?
[14:34] <Threetimes> munna: but ATi made it a bit compley with a strange ugly installer, so I do the first part for you
[14:34] <Threetimes> complex*
[14:34] <rayno_b> Hello there - I need assistance to allow a mail server to be allowed to send mail.  This mail server is behind a squid proxy server.
[14:34] <Kan3> ty
[14:34] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: dpkg -i packagename.deb   is one way.  What pacakge are you trying to install?
[14:34] <munna> sooooooooo
[14:34] <munna> u want me to......
[14:34] <ascheel> indus, "what athe **** is with these people".  Just asking that we keep it family friendly.
[14:35] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: wicd and synaptic
[14:35] <indus> ascheel: what is wrong with the word hell?
[14:35] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: no sudo?
[14:35] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Yes, prefixed with sudo, sorry.
[14:35] <joker> hello every body
[14:35] <marc> rayno_b: All the rest of ports closed on a fw?
[14:35] <Nitrousoxide> pici: Uh, so just that in terminal, ok
[14:36] <rayno_b> marc, can I pvt you please?
[14:36] <joker> i'need some help with my skiputler
[14:36] <joker> and thank you
[14:36] <cudev> After I login on the terminal, I am getting "stopping/Starting ntp Server" message every 20 seconds. How do I stop this?
[14:36] <indus> rayno_b: stick around,there are many in this channel who will help you with this,unless you have already being helped
[14:36] <Ademan> Ravahan: egad! I'm sorry i left you high and dry there, have you had any luck since the config file?
[14:37] <lee__> i'm having problems adding my windows xp partition to grub, anyone available to help me out on this one?
[14:37] <ascheel> lee__: have you tried the Ubuntu help files?
[14:37] <Ravahan> Ademan: No problem.  I've got bigger fish to fry at the moment, using this as a diversion, and I just swapped what I was messing with for a few minutes...
[14:37] <ascheel> !ntfs | lee__
[14:37] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: ok tried wicd all.deb, but it errors out. any ideas
[14:37] <marc> rayno_b: yes, of course
[14:37] <indus> lee__: how did you install ubuntu?
[14:37] <Threetimes> munna: you still have to do it yourself, since I can't build the 64-bit packages (i should have known that...)
[14:37] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: dont you need the Dir?
[14:37] <lee__> ascheel: yeah, been googling and such. i think i've got a tricky setup
[14:37] <Ravahan> Ademan: I messed around with the config file, and I must be doing something wrong because its not changing the buttons
[14:38] <Threetimes> munna, you have a terminal open?
[14:38] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Yes, you'd need to the do the command in the directory where the file is.  I'm assuming that you don't have internet access on this computer?
[14:38] <Ravahan> Ademan: Though the controller is at least being recognized now, which it wasn't before with the -j command
[14:38] <indus> ascheel: for now, you can just temporarily mount the partitions,then use the help docs to add it to grub
[14:38] <Nitrousoxide> Pici, yes thats what im fixin'
[14:38] <indus> ascheel: aah wrong nick
[14:38] <lee__> indus: installed ubuntu on second physical hard drive, windows is on same drive. but the drive is first boot priority
[14:38] <munna> yup
[14:38] <indus> lee__: : for now, you can just temporarily mount the partitions,then use the help docs to add it to grub
[14:38] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: note, i have never installed a package Manually before
[14:38] <ascheel> indus: I'll forgive you this time...  ;P
[14:39] <Threetimes> munna: mkdir fglrx; cd fglrg; wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run;
[14:39] <Ravahan> Ademan: When I booted it up, it was using button nine as the start button.  I reconfigured # Joypad1 and saved and booted it back up from the same command line I've written into my... start-menu-like-thing
[14:39] <indus> lee__: you not getting windows in grub boot menu now i believe
[14:39] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: what do you mean, in the directory? use cd?
[14:39] <Threetimes> munna: akamai.net is just a ATi/amd mirror
[14:39] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Where did you save the packages?
[14:39] <lee__> indus: no, i rebuilt grub from livecd
[14:39] <munna> thats a bin file
[14:39] <Ravahan> Ademan: And the config was the same.  So I tried just leaving button 9 blank, and it still acts like the start button.  So I'm not sure what's up
[14:39] <munna> never saw a bin file
[14:39] <Ademan> Ravahan: hrm, so have you uncommented the Joypad1_b0 lines? and does it seem like any of the buttons are working?
[14:40] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: desktop
[14:40] <indus> lee__: hmm did u do a update grub
[14:40] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Open a terminal, then cd ~/Desktop
[14:40] <Threetimes> munna, the second command wil open it, is it downloaded already?
[14:40] <munna> whoooo
[14:40] <Ravahan> Ademan: .... /slap <me>
[14:40] <Ravahan> Ademan: Just a sec, that's probably it.
[14:40] <munna> its 86 mb!!!!!!
[14:40] <lee__> indus: i've tried a manual entry which doesn't work, and i've been editing the boot line in grub to try different combos, can't seem to find the right partition
[14:40] <Pici> !who > munna
[14:40] <Pici> !enter > munna
[14:40] <shredder12> hello guys,, I am using a console based pdf viewer fbgs and when i run it I get an error "open /dev/fb0 : No such file or directory" so will creating such a device solve the problem?? nd how do i create one??
[14:40] <Keba> How do I make a launcher that opens the "Computer" folder?
[14:40] <Threetimes> munna: yes, it's big. Blame ATi/AMD for that...
[14:41] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: wait a sec
[14:41] <alff21> hi, with that i can replace flash cs3 in ubuntu?
[14:41] <lee__> indus: didn't update grub, after installing xp and wiping out grub i livecd'd to terminal and used to grub, root ..., setup ... commands
[14:41] <Ravahan> Ademan: I read where it said to uncomment them, and it just didn't click.  I'm booting it up to try now
[14:41] <indus> lee__: sudo grub
[14:41] <munna> fu ati but i like ur phy but u dont know how to compress it
[14:41] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: no such directory.... i think
[14:41] <lee__> indus: yeah, i did sudo it
[14:41] <indus> lee__: find /boot/grub/stage1
[14:42] <Pici> munna: Please mind your language.
[14:42] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: file or Dir
[14:42] <Threetimes> munna: it is compressed, the full thing is even bigger :D
[14:42] <munna> sory
[14:42] <indus> lee__: all those steps you did?
[14:42] <joker> thank you for your intentionnnnnnnnn
[14:42] <munna> oh
[14:42] <munna> omg im SoRY!
[14:42] <Threetimes> munna: is the download finished?
[14:42] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: oh Forward slash.
[14:42] <munna> no
[14:42] <munna> dial up
[14:42] <munna> check my ip
[14:42] <lee__> ubottu: find /boot/grub/stage1 reveals hd1,0
[14:42] <lee__> indus: find /boot/grub/stage1 reveals hd1,0
[14:43] <indus> lee__: ok now do root(hd1,0)
[14:43] <lee__> indus: done
[14:43] <Threetimes> munna: you're in bombay! cool (but that's offtopic...)
[14:43] <munna> no
[14:43] <indus> lee__: now setup(hd1)
[14:43] <Threetimes> close to bombay?
[14:43] <Threetimes> munna: ^
[14:44] <munna> im in kerala but wtf
[14:44] <lee__> indus: done
[14:44] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: Ok, it says conflictin' packages
[14:44] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: any idea?
[14:44] <munna> and how do u do that
[14:44] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: I believe  that wicd replaces network-manager if thats what you're suggesting.
[14:44] <arand> indus: sure that is right, do you know if he does boot from hd1?
[14:44] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: ok. i think, how?
[14:44] <lee__> indus: how will this add my xp to grub tho?
[14:45] <Threetimes> munna: first i do /whois munna, then I enter your IP at http://maxmind.com/
[14:45] <benny> Benz
[14:45] <indus> lee__: its a good question
[14:45] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Does it give you a choice as to what to do?
[14:45] <munna> cool
[14:45] <Ravahan> Ademan: Still nogo.  Its only recognizing button 9, and not as what I set it as.
[14:45] <Pici> !offtopic | Threetimes munna
[14:45] <lee__> indus: i'm booting to ubuntu just fine at the moment.
[14:45] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: no it returns to the command line
[14:45] <munna> only 18 percent left
[14:45] <munna> sory
[14:45] <munna> im in 18 percent
[14:46] <indus> lee__: arand:i believe grub creates that particular device for boot instead of something else
[14:46] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: cant we jsut uninstall the network util. or like. overwrite?
[14:46] <Threetimes> munna: what version of ubuntu dou you have? 9.04?
[14:46] <munna> yup
[14:46] <benny> i want to create program in ubuntu is Asp can I?
[14:46] <Threetimes> munna: the next command is sh ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/9.04
[14:46] <Ravahan> Ademan: I'll paste in my config if you'll tell me how to do that pastebucket command or whatever it is
[14:46] <indus> lee__: i have another method too , but i need to search
[14:46] <munna> Threetimes: how do i use a bin file
[14:47] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Yes, you'll need to remove network-manager first. sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[14:47] <munna> oh
[14:47] <lee__> indus: nice one
[14:47] <munna> then i dont need to install from fire fox
[14:47] <indus> lee__: what is nice one?
[14:47] <indus> lee__: i need output of sudo fdisk -l
[14:47] <lee__> indus: british way of saying thanks
[14:47] <Threetimes> munna: what do you mean with "install from firefox"?
[14:48] <indus> lee__: wokay
[14:48] <Ademan> Ravahan: well i'm glad to hear it's somewhat working, if you just copy the contents of the file and paste it into http://pastebin.com and give me the link.  I believe there is a little command to do that 'pastebinit' or something to that effect, but meh
[14:48] <munna> download
[14:48] <munna> u gave a url and fire fox asked if u wana instal
[14:48] <erUSUL> !pastebinit
[14:48] <lee__> indus: http://pastebin.com/m155060e9
[14:48] <munna> download
[14:48] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: network-manager has now been slayed
[14:49] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: repat the install process?
[14:49] <lee__> indus: /dev/sdb3 is the xp partition
[14:49] <indus> lee__: cool add device sdb3 to grub entry for windows
[14:49] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: Yep.
[14:49] <lorenzosu> !asdf
[14:49] <indus> lee__: ya it should work
[14:49] <Threetimes> you could just have copied/pasted the command in your terminal, but this is also ok.
[14:49] <Threetimes> munna: ^
[14:49] <lee__> indus: what will sdb3 translate to for the grub loader? hd1,3 ?
[14:49] <Threetimes> munna: but save the file in a new directory
[14:49] <Ravahan> Ademan: http://pastebin.com/d74aa66e1 That's the whole config file in case I left something out.
[14:49] <munna> umm
[14:50] <indus> lee__: no it should be 2
[14:50] <munna> in my home flod rite
[14:50] <ro0ot> hi
[14:50] <Ravahan> Ademan: er.. So I don't leave something important out-- Oh you know what I mean.
[14:50] <lee__> indus: hd1,2 ?
[14:50] <munna> 15  mins
[14:50] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: done?, ok well, do i require a reboot?
[14:50] <indus> lee__: hd2
[14:50] <indus> no wait
[14:50] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[14:50] <indus> lee__: oops
[14:50] <Nitrousoxide> Pici, How do i config?
[14:50] <Threetimes> munna: create a new folder in your home folder, and move the download when it is finished. You'll really need a fresh directory.
[14:50] <aamir> hii
[14:50] <indus> lee__: 1 sec let me check
[14:50] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: You'd probably at least need to re-login.  I don't know actually, I'
[14:50] <Pici> Nitrousoxide: I've never used wicd.
[14:51] <munna> ok
[14:51] <indus> lee__: hd1,2
[14:51] <dakarn> anyone using vodafone mobile broadband?
[14:51] <indus> lee__: gulp !
[14:51] <indus> lee__: its the second device correct?
[14:51] <Threetimes> dakarn: I used it once, but that is in the Netherlands.
[14:52] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: oh im trying it cause' it doesnt detect my card in xubuntu, but then i had just server, it worked fine, thats how i got xu buntu
[14:52] <munna> lemmy pet my dog
[14:52] <indus> lee__: its correct, ok good luck booting
[14:52] <lee__> indus: it is the second device. but it's loaded by the bios first. does that cause problems with grub? i was under the impression it does
[14:52] <indus> lee__: dont worry about all that
[14:52] <Threetimes> dakarn: I think it is pretty good in Italy also.
[14:52] <indus> lee__: ya let grub device according to the menu.list
[14:53] <knoxy> Somebody here uses ISPConfig 3 on ubuntu 9 ??
[14:53] <indus> lee__: so sdb will be hd1 and 3 will be 2 so hd1,2
[14:53] <munna> omg
[14:53] <lee__> indus: can you check this before i reboot? http://pastebin.com/m3b9a1e34
[14:53] <munna> 11 minuts remainig
[14:53] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: congrats, you have earnt the rank of total awesomeness.
[14:53] <vegombrei> how do i get the new firefox?
[14:54] <Threetimes> munna: I'm very patient (takes like 10 seconds here)
[14:54] <indus> lee__: add makeactive before last line
[14:54] <munna> reeboot and restart firefox
[14:54] <munna> huh
[14:54] <munna> i know
[14:54] <munna> ur in usa right
[14:54] <lee__> indus: ok, i'll give it a whirl. brb
[14:54] <indus> kk
[14:54] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: next question(s), WINE!
[14:54] <indus> seeurb
[14:54] <Dextorion> bye
[14:54] <Threetimes> munna: I'm in the Netherlands (West ern Europe)
[14:54] <mazda01> i have a iso mount nautilus script but it's not working. can someone take a look at it and tell me why it's not working? http://pastebin.com/f64c252bf   all it's saying is that it couldn't mount it?
[14:55] <munna> oh
[14:55] <munna> i have a school trip to UK
[14:55] <vegombrei> ?
[14:55] <munna> im in 6th
[14:55] <Pici> munna: This channel is for support only. If you want to chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:55] <ro0ot> Welcome to the chat my name esam
[14:56] <munna> ok
[14:56] <ro0ot> hi
[14:56] <munna> i will later
[14:56] <munna> lemy do this
[14:56] <munna> hi esam
[14:56] <ro0ot> hi munna
[14:57] <munna> what do u need help with today
[14:57] <mazda01> i have a iso mount nautilus script but it's not working. can someone take a look at it and tell me why it's not working? http://pastebin.com/f64c252bf   all it's saying is that it couldn't mount it?
[14:57] <StrangeCharm_> when booting up a new 9.04 server installation for the first time, one item in the boot sequence fails - setting up network hardware; and ifconfig returns nothing. what's going on?
[14:57] <lee__> indus: 1,2 didn't work, 0,2 did.
[14:57] <mazda01> StrangeCharm_, what chipset is your network card?
[14:57] <rek> can't install synce plugin
[14:57] <lee__> indus: it must be the boot order, anyhoo, works perfect now. thanks for you time! hi5
[14:57] <munna> oh man 9 mins
[14:58] <munna> three
[14:58] <munna> u there
[14:58] <rek> help
[14:58] <leaf-sheep> munna: Don't say ok.
[14:58] <StrangeCharm_> mazda01, that is a very good question to which i do not know the answer. howerver, 9.04  has worked on this rig before (with no hw changes)
[14:58] <Keba> How do I make a launcher that opens the "Computer" folder?
[14:58] <THEBUGUSER> nautilus
[14:59] <Ravahan> Ademan: Did ya get that?
[14:59] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[14:59] <Threetimes> munna: dial-up, you said?
[14:59] <rek> can't install synce plugin
[14:59] <thefr34k> Still working through my issue with the laptop backlight - I have followed the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/95444?comments=all which confirms my issue, I have isntalled the CVS of nvclock, now it recognizes the commands - however the brightness is not changing
[14:59] <THEBUGUSER> nautilus is the command and there is something behinde nautilus for the starter but I don't know at the moment
[14:59] <munna> yup
[14:59] <thefr34k> smartdimmer -s 20 is the same as -s 100
[14:59] <mazda01> StrangeCharm_, huh? then i am not sure if that same hardware has worked in the past. have you tried a live cd and see if you can access the internet?
[15:00] <cudev> nautilus ~
[15:00] <Roland> any recommended partitioning scheme for 9.04?
[15:00] <jacquesdupontd> i have a question, can we resize an ext3 "/" partition on a multiboot winxp/ubuntu after all has been installed like i would lke to put more on ubuntu and less on windows xp ? i guess we do that with gparted with the live cd write ? doesn't it moves boot sectors ?
[15:00] <^cheeky> hi, i just installed samba on my server , and i was wondering how would i connect to the samba share i created on the server ?
[15:00] <StrangeCharm_> mazda01-  the network hardware has worked with a 9.04 desktop regular install
[15:00] <rek> can't install synce plugin
[15:00] <cudev> nvm
[15:00] <Ademan> Ravahan: hey sorry, i'm used to x-chat flashing at me whenever someone says my name... i'm looking at it now
[15:00] <Threetimes> munna: that must be very, uhm..., uncomfortable these days...
[15:00] <Nitrousoxide> Hey, would the latest release of xubuntu be considerd as ubuntu jaunty?
[15:01] <Ravahan> Ademan: No problem.  I appreciate your time
[15:01] <Threetimes> Nitrousoxide: it would be Xubuntu Jaunty
[15:01] <cudev> Keba: "nautilus /" ?
[15:01] <indus> Roland: ext3
[15:01] <ro0ot> I want to help you munna
[15:01] <jacquesdupontd> anybody ?
[15:01] <munna> ummmm
[15:02] <Nitrousoxide> Threetimes: because on a tutorial to install WINE, it asks do you have ubuntu jaunty, but i have xubuntu jaunty
[15:02] <munna> no thanks
[15:02] <Keba> ok, ill try that cudev =P
[15:02] <Keba> thx
[15:02] <ro0ot> Leaving the sound is not working
[15:02] <Roland> indus, i was thinking about aprtition sizes
[15:02] <munna> nitrous: its pronounced zubuntu right
[15:02] <grawity> Nitrousoxide: Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu only differ by the graphical interface, Wine works with all three.
[15:02] <Threetimes> Nitrousoxide: it probably won't mater that much, but XFCE is different from GNOME.
[15:03] <THEBUGUSER> nautilus computer:///              is the command for the computer starter
[15:03] <moncky> Nitrousoxide: *buntus are all fundamentally the same, the differencie is in the GUI and some apps
[15:03] <Ademan> Ravahan: I don't know if this will work, but you could try commenting out the keypad1 stuff (lines 26-37) and see if it's somehow overriding the joystick config
[15:03] <StrangeCharm_> mazda01-  actually, in another interesting turn of fate, after logging in, i get avout a page of -bash: /dev/null: permission denied befre being greeted with a prompt
[15:03] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  did you use "ifconfig -a"?
[15:03] <Threetimes> gnome and xfce both use GTK, right?
[15:04] <munna> three 98 percent
[15:04] <Threetimes> munna: ok, you have the next command ready?
[15:04] <munna> now what
[15:04] <StrangeCharm_> oskar--  no, ifconfig -a shows me eth0 and lo, but there's no ip for eth0
[15:04] <munna> sory
[15:04] <munna> type that again
[15:04] <indus> Roland: aah
[15:04] <Threetimes> munna: do you have in in a empty directory?
[15:05] <indus> Roland: what hardisk size
[15:05] <munna> yup
[15:05] <ugur> hi all i have a problem with the memory usage pattern of ubuntu may be linux i dont know
[15:05] <munna> now what
[15:05] <Threetimes> open a terminal, type cd NameOfDirectory
[15:05] <indus> Roland: i have 80 gb , i kept 40 win and 40 lin
[15:05] <munna> oooook
[15:05] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  did you use dhcp before?
[15:05] <Threetimes> munna: the next command is sh ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/9.04
[15:05] <richardcavell> I'm playing half-life on WINE and OpenGL gives me about 4 frames per secon, Direct3D gives me about 1 frame every 5 seconds and software rendering gives me about 30 fps. Is this what other people experience?
[15:05] <munna> wait
[15:05] <r3l1c> 9.04 causes over heating and shutdowns on my laptop
[15:05] <munna> ummm
[15:05] <munna> 1sec
[15:06] <cudev> After booting ubuntu server 9.04, and after I login on the terminal, I am getting the message over my terminal "Stopping NTP server ntpd" immediately followed by "Starting NTP server ntpd" about every 20 seconds. How do I stop that without disabling it?
[15:06] <StrangeCharm_> oskar- yes, i have perviously and successfuly used dhcp, including during install
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd> could be cool to have an answer to my quesiton
[15:06] <munna> oh man
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd> i have a question, can we resize an ext3 "/" partition on a multiboot winxp/ubuntu after all has been installed like i would lke to put more on ubuntu and less on windows xp ? i guess we do that with gparted with the live cd write ? doesn't it moves boot sectors ?
[15:06] <munna> no such file directory
[15:06] <r3l1c> yes
[15:06] <aamir> frd
[15:07] <r3l1c> jacquesdupontd:  yes you can
[15:07] <indus> jacquesdupontd: yes you can resize
[15:07] <Threetimes> munna: are you in the right directory?
[15:07] <munna> no
[15:07] <munna> wait
[15:07] <r3l1c> jacquesdupontd:  thats easy and your plan is correct
[15:07] <munna> let me rename it
[15:07] <munna> i named it what
[15:08] <Threetimes> munna: you can also type the first few letters, and press tab to complete it.
[15:08] <munna> yes<<
[15:08] <Threetimes> !tab | munna
[15:08] <r3l1c> Where do the moved .torrent files go when transmission deletes the source torrent file?
[15:08] <indus> jacquesdupontd: hi how are you
[15:08] <munna> i got into it
[15:08] <indus> jacquesdupontd: ca va
[15:09] <Threetimes> munna: the next command is sh ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/9.04
[15:09] <ugur> hi all i have problem with the memory usage pattern of ubuntu or linux i dont know : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7646128 is the related thread. Is there anyone who can help me?
[15:09] <Roland> indus, the disk is ~300Gb i was thinking about 4 partitions, root, home, swap and a partition for dual-boot purposes
[15:09] <StrangeCharm_> oskar- ?
[15:10] <munna> munna@ubuntu:~$ cd smthing
[15:10] <munna> bash: cd: smthing: No such file or directory
[15:10] <munna> munna@ubuntu:~$ cd what
[15:10] <munna> munna@ubuntu:~/what$ sh ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/9.04
[15:10] <Ravahan> Ademan: Sorry, I didn't see that, I'll try it-- What's irking me is that just the one button is working!
[15:10] <FloodBot3> munna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <munna> sh: Can't open ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run
[15:10] <munna> munna@ubuntu:~/what$ sh ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/9.04
[15:10] <iamleneko> hi people
[15:10] <knoxy> Somebody here uses ISPConfig 3 on ubuntu 9 ??
[15:10] <iamleneko> is someone know how to set a default backpath for joe ???
[15:10] <Roland> indus, but maybe it'd would be better if i had a fifth one for "media"
[15:10] <Threetimes> !paste | munna
[15:10] <^cheeky> hi i just installed samba, in 8.10 server and i cant find my samba users file under /etc/samba/ directory when i do a ls -la  i only see smb.conf and gdbcommands ..
[15:10] <jacquesdupontd> indus, im ok and you ?
[15:10] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  can you log into gnome and configure the network interface to dhcp? or is it set this way?
[15:10] <indus> Roland: i dont what the partition about dual boot means, but keep say 15gb for root , rest for home
[15:10] <indus> Roland: swap keep 1 gb
[15:11] <^cheeky> coz iam just configureing samba so i can upload some files to test mediatomb
[15:11] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  you also mentioned a problem with /dev/null. is it still there?
[15:11] <indus> Roland: because root keeps increasing with time as you install packages
[15:11] <Threetimes> munna: did you download the file to ~/what/ ?
[15:11] <indus> Roland: but i dont think it will really go beyond 10 gb
[15:11] <munna> no
[15:11] <indus> !who | munna
[15:11] <StrangeCharm_> oskar- neither x nor gnome are installed, but i could set it to dhcp from the cli. though i thought it was automatically set to use dhcp. and yes, when i log in i get that message
[15:12] <Threetimes> munna: where did you download it to?
[15:12] <munna> before i put it to desktop now im in what/
[15:12] <ninja> what's a good book to learn python?
[15:12] <leaf-sheep> munna: Are you from India?
[15:12] <pozic> For some reason Synaptic thinks I have a proxy configured, but in fact I don't have any proxy configured anymore. (The Gnome system proxy is set to a direct internet connection, the one in the configuration of Synaptic is also set to direct connection and my http_proxy variable is unset).
[15:12] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  maybe these have to do with a problem in udev (?)
[15:12] <munna> yes
[15:12] <leaf-sheep> !in | munna
[15:12] <StrangeCharm_> oskar- -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied
[15:12] <munna> so
[15:12] <pozic> So, how can I convince Synaptic _not_ to use a proxy?
[15:12] <StrangeCharm_> oskar--  udev, i am not familiar with udev
[15:13] <munna> um i think whites r more helpful
[15:13] <cudev> munna: If you want on your desktop, run: cd ~/Desktop
[15:13] <Threetimes> munna: is what a directory on your desktop?
[15:13] <munna> for get it
[15:13] <munna> i drag droped it into what
[15:13] <Threetimes> munna: cd ~/Desktop/what
[15:13] <Roland> indus, you really think that a 250GB /home partition would be a good idea?
[15:14] <leaf-sheep> Roland: If you're going to switch to linux, I think separate home partition is good idea.
[15:14] <indus> Roland: well, if iam gonna store movies etc then why not, what do you have in mind?
[15:14] <Ademan> Ravahan: yeah, it's a good sign though... it's a shame dgen doesn't have a nice configuration utility...
[15:14] <StrangeCharm_> oskar- okay, google is my friend, but i still don't have enough information to help me solve this problem
[15:15] <cudev> I posted a link for my problem here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/ntp-server-repeatedly-stoppingstarting-741395/
[15:15] <indus> leaf-sheep: unless a user asks for help in a specific language, dont point them to the official country channel
[15:15] <Ravahan> Ademan: Now, I also have Gens/GS, but that won't detect it
[15:15] <munna> ummmm im not trying to be rasistic
[15:15] <indus> leaf-sheep: btw,iam from india too,but the language in that channel is also english
[15:15] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  sorry, i am also not familiar with udev... maybe https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/63031 give a solution for at least one of the problems
[15:15] <Ravahan> Ademan: As I mentioned earlier, I'd actually prefer that one because it has a nice GUI
[15:15] <StrangeCharm_> oskar--  can a user access /dev/null by default? also, if udev is broken, why can i see my network hardware, and why isn't anything else broken?
[15:15] <oskar-> yes
[15:15] <indus> this is where everyone is, so that channel is mostly useless
[15:15] <StrangeCharm_> oskar--  looking at that link
[15:16] <leaf-sheep> indus: Roger.
[15:16] <indus> leaf-sheep: :)
[15:16] <Threetimes> indus: I agree, the ubuntu-nl channel is usually empty and dead and boring, so i'm here.
[15:16] <indus> jacquesdupontd: iam good man, how have you been, tres bien?
[15:16] <Ravahan> Ademan: Is there a way to force Gens/GS to recognize the pad?
[15:16] <Ademan> is there an "accepted" method to sidestep the intel driver performance issues in jaunty?  I've seen plenty of posts about using packages from debian, but that feels incredibly dirty and dangerous, since having binary compatibility issues with your kernel or xorg driver are a pretty big deal... so is there a PPA or backports or something?
[15:17] <my_haz> whats a tool that downloads streaming mp3 podcast (Icecast) and saves the songs to individual tracks?
[15:17] <oskar-> StrangeCharm_:  my idea is, that some startup scripts not run by root fail to connect their commands /dev/null and therefore for example "dhclient" fails
[15:17] <Ademan> Ravahan: unfortunately, while i'm somewhat familiar with dgen (barely...) i've never touched Gens/GS
[15:17] <Ravahan> Ademan: lol this seems like such a silly thing to be so difficult.  I just wanna play sega :'(
[15:17] <indus> Threetimes: ya all these sub-channels are useless,unless someone is looking for language help, and that too i feel can be helped in pm by some user here
[15:17] <ninja> what's a good book to learn python?
[15:17] <indus> Threetimes: like some guy from nether wants help, you can help him in pm anyways
[15:17] <my_haz> ninja: join #python will have better help
[15:17] <Severity1> ninja: a byte of python by SwaroopCH
[15:18] <Ademan> ninja: try #python   also "learning python" by oreilly. oreilly makes awesome books.  note that if you go into #python they can direct you to some very good free resources
[15:18] <indus> ubuntu-in  channel is active ,but no where remotely as useful or informative as this
[15:18] <StrangeCharm_> oskar- i see, i'll read this bug report in more detail to find out if i can get a solution
[15:18] <Threetimes> but munna, have you found the directory with the big file already?
[15:18] <ninja> thanks
[15:18] <Adlai> Hi, I was having some trouble earlier...
[15:18] <indus> ninja: also wesley chun's book
[15:18] <munna> ya im instaling the packags
[15:18] <Adlai> I'd just like to say that the help from the folks here worked, and I'm back on Ubuntu.
[15:18] <Ravahan> Ademan: Alright, well thanks for trying!  Is there some kind of standardized command to write config files like you instructed me to do with DGen that I could mess around with?
[15:18] <Adlai> thanks :)
[15:19] <Threetimes> munna: good. If you've done that, just reboot your pc and see if it works...
[15:19] <jacquesdupontd> indus, i've been in a long travel in my mind during those last 4 days it was perfect to have a new start
[15:19] <sebyoga> Hello all
[15:19] <sebyoga> I have a question
[15:19] <pozic> I already found the issue myself; Synaptic is the suxors in short.
[15:19] <jacquesdupontd> well indus i have to reboot to test something
[15:19] <jacquesdupontd> see ya in a sec
[15:19] <Ademan> Ravahan: not really, that's one of linux's weaknesses, there are billion different ways to do stuff (which is also nice) but as a result everything works differently :-/
[15:19] <munna> ok
[15:19] <sebyoga> i wan to rename all file *.png On *.gif
[15:19] <sebyoga> when i can ?
[15:20] <munna> ok
[15:20] <Ravahan> Okay
[15:20] <pozic> sebyoga: rename can do that
[15:20] <munna> done
[15:20] <Threetimes> munna: with a HD 2400 it should just work, but you might have xorg.conf problems. To be shure, there's two more commands.
[15:20] <Ademan> sebyoga: you know that renaming them will not change the fact that they are png files right? you probably want to *convert* them to gifs
[15:20] <Ravahan> heh, I got another for you guys (Feelin' like I hit the gold mine finding #ubuntu here...)
[15:20] <munna> thanks for your help
[15:20] <Ravahan> Does anyone here run Vuze?
[15:20] <sebyoga> no rename no convert :)
[15:20] <sebyoga> pb with IE6
[15:20] <sebyoga> :o)
[15:20] <munna> Threetimes: thanks for ur patiance
[15:20] <Threetimes> munna: cd /etc/X11/; sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[15:21] <munna> huh
[15:21] <Threetimes> munna: aticonfig --initial
[15:21] <moncky> sebyoga: mv and xargs should be what you are looking at
[15:21] <munna> i need to run those right now
[15:21] <pozic> Oh, and when will Ubuntu audio stop sucking?
[15:21] <indus> ok i have to go now folks
[15:21] <indus> good luck
[15:21] <Threetimes> munna: just to be sure. xorg.conf is a very importans configuration file. aticonfig "resets" that file.
[15:22] <pozic> I doubt that the people developing Pulse audio actually use it.
[15:22] <Threetimes> munna: you can reboot your pc now, but if you get no grapics, run those commands, and reboot again.
[15:22] <Ravahan> I installed Vuze, a java-based torrent manager that I use in XP, through Synaptic, but when I start it I get the error "exec: 11: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java: not found"
[15:22] <munna> oohh
[15:22] <Guest88191> hi anyone knows how to register on IRC?
[15:22] <munna> lemy rite them down
[15:23] <Ravahan> I've also installed the sun JRE through synaptic
[15:23] <farciarz84> hi where is mysql in ubuntu? (a real db file?)
[15:23] <Threetimes> !register | Guest88191
[15:23] <cudev> Why does ntp server ntpd continually restarts itself after boot?
[15:24] <Threetimes> !hi | John
[15:24] <moncky> sebyoga: somone may want to double check this for me, somthing like ls *.gif | xargs -i mv {}.png
[15:24] <Guest59875> hi
[15:24] <silence144> hello all could some one tell me if grub 2 is fixed on the nightly builds
[15:24] <dhdpr_> #dcrts
[15:24] <Pici> silence144: #ubuntu+1 would be a better place to ask
[15:25] <farciarz84> hi where is mysql in ubuntu? (I need a path to a real db file)
[15:25] <dhaval_> Remember I came screaming in here shouting "Help! Help! Internet won't re connect!"??
[15:25] <mzea> Hi all. I am using strongswan. Do I have to have strongswanCert.pem in /etc/cacerts ? I am on Ubuntu 8.04, and debian setup generated RSA keys for the system (mysystemCert.pem), but not strongswanCert.pem...Is that file necessary?
[15:25] <silence144> PiCi already stoped there no answer lol
[15:25] <Guest87341> hellllllllo ubuntu Army ^_^
[15:25] <dhaval_> Now I see, that it was because I was root in the terminal.
[15:25] <Threetimes> farciarz84: whereis mysql (that's a command)
[15:25] <dhaval_> This OS,
[15:25] <Pici> silence144: Well Karmic is offtopic for this channel, you'd have to be patient in #ubuntu+1 for an answer.
[15:26] <dhaval_> quite strict don't you think?
[15:26] <dhaval_> nevermind :|
[15:26] <fireantz> hi guys, i'm having alittle complication between gtk, gtkmm, wxGTK. anyone can enlighten me?
[15:26] <silence144> Ok pici I'll stop back when I get time thank you
[15:26] <freelanceuser> network-manager-vpnc keeps crashing due to "invalid vpn secrets"
[15:27] <innociv> Does apache tomcat do anything like what apache does?  So apache can't be used instead of tomcat for a java servlet?
[15:27] <rayno_b> fd
[15:27] <Threetimes> farciarz84: which mysql (that's another command, slightly different. first one doesn't work for me)
[15:29] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. I'm having problems with wakeonlan. How do I get wakeonlan to broadcast from eth1 instead of eth0? :(
[15:29] <mircica> hello
[15:30] <Threetimes> !hi | mircica
[15:30] <Pici> !nickspam > joh1
[15:31] <mircica> i have a question, how can i rip audio cds using ubuntu, i want to rip them in FLAC
[15:31] <Threetimes> !rythmbox | mircica
[15:32] <Threetimes> !ripping | mircica
[15:32] <pozic> mircica: abcde
[15:32] <pozic> mircica: (yes, that is a name)
[15:32] <mircica> thank yu
[15:32] <mircica> you
[15:33] <ikonia> !away > Mud|afk
[15:33] <StrangeCharm_> how can i save an edited file with vi?
[15:33] <p-f> :w
[15:33] <moncky> StrangeCharm_: :q!
[15:33] <p-f> moncky, sigh
[15:33] <moncky> p-f: eek
[15:33] <p-f> StrangeCharm_, don't do what moncky said, it will quit without saving
[15:34] <shiki-> Hello everyone
[15:34] <ikonia> moncky: please be careful
[15:34] <moncky> StrangeCharm_: ignore my last msg :wq would write and quit :q! quits without save
[15:34] <p-f> StrangeCharm_, what you want is :w, or :wq if you want to quit after saving
[15:34] <p-f> StrangeCharm_, if you're still in insert mode, you'll have to press escape first
[15:34]  * moncky goes sits on the naughty step
[15:35] <p-f> tsk tsk
[15:35] <shiki-> can anyone help me with PPA? Want to make a package be built for 8.04,8.10,9.04. I read the howto, guide, debian standards. Prepared everything , split packages. Still, if I upload, it'll only say its the same..and it'll build it for jaunty. Even though the package name says hardy, and the changelog is the same. Where should I define it?
[15:35] <StrangeCharm_> thanks p-f and (to a somewhat lesser extent) moncky
[15:35] <_UsUrPeR_> no one on wakeonlan?
[15:36] <blind|melon|chit> moncky: That one has the sense of humour of a lump of granite :P
[15:36] <Pici> shiki-: Probably a better question for #launchpad
[15:36] <shiki-> Pici, ty
[15:36] <pauljw> StrangeCharm_: vi --help  could be useful
[15:36] <Ademan> vimtutor !!!!
[15:37] <StrangeCharm_> pauljw-  yes, indeed :)
[15:37] <Ademan> StrangeCharm_: vimtutor is great for learning vi/vim
[15:37] <mzea> how can I run FTP file transfer using ubuntu 8.04??
[15:37] <shiki-> mzea, download? upload?
[15:37] <ikonia> mzea: there are tons of ftp clients, one even install by default (command line tool) ftp
[15:38] <shiki-> by the way with an ftp client. For example "filezilla" or "gftp"
[15:38] <shiki-> or "ftp", "lftp" (command line)
[15:38] <Threetimes> !ftp
[15:38] <StrangeCharm_> Ademan-  vimtutor?
[15:39] <Ademan> StrangeCharm_: just run it from the command line, though you may need the 'vim-full' package installed for that
[15:39] <nobody88> Hello
[15:39] <nobody88> maybe is someone here who can help me
[15:39] <nobody88> I have a huge problem with my software raid.
[15:39] <nobody88> I had a raid 5 with 3 devices (sdb1, sdc1,sdd1 )
[15:39] <nobody88> then I added a harddisk.
[15:39] <FloodBot3> nobody88: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <nobody88> After reboot, the system added the new harddisk as sdd and the old sdd1 is now sde1.
[15:39] <mzea> Download or upload?? I did not get your ans..shiki..
[15:39] <Threetimes> !enter | nobody88
[15:39] <StrangeCharm_> Ademan-  i had no ability to install software, i was trying to edit files on a box that's having config difficulty preventing the network from coming up. hence using vi instead of the vastly superior xemacs :p
[15:40]  * Ademan mumbles something about about EVILmacs :-p
[15:40] <nobody88> sorry
[15:40] <StrangeCharm_> how can i make my network card attempt a dhcp handshake?
[15:41] <Ademan> anyways, give it a whirl, it may come with the default vim package in ubuntu
[15:41] <ikonia> StrangeCharm_: have a dchp server on the network, and set the card to dhcp
[15:41] <StrangeCharm_> ikonia-  how do i set the card to dhcp?
[15:41] <ikonia> StrangeCharm_: you do it in the OS, use the network manager application
[15:41] <cudev> How can I stop the message "Starting NTP server ntpd" from occurring repeatedly in my terminal?
[15:41] <Threetimes> what's the easiest way to open a sqlite 2 file?
[15:42] <Threetimes> !sqlite
[15:42] <Ademan> Threetimes: what are you trying to do with it?
[15:42] <Threetimes> Ademan: just viewing it
[15:42] <ikonia> cudev: that should only appear at startup
[15:42] <StrangeCharm_> ikonia-  is the network manager application x-based? i have no x installed
[15:42] <cudev> ikonia: I thought as much, but that is not the case
[15:42] <ikonia> StrangeCharm_: then you need to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file, there are examples on the net
[15:43] <ikonia> cudev: go into /etc/init.d and find the ntp script name and to ./script_name stop
[15:43] <ikonia> cudev: see if that makes a difference
[15:43] <ikonia> cudev: I suspect it's repeating if it can't find an ntp server to sync to
[15:43] <thefr34k> how would i stop the gnome-power-management
[15:43] <cudev> ikonia: I get "Stopping NTP server ntpd" immediately followed by "Starting NTP server ntpd" about every 20 seconds
[15:43] <cudev> ikonia: I will look at that now
[15:43] <thefr34k> is it in /etc/init.d?
[15:43] <ikonia> cudev: also look at the ntp.conf file - see what servers it's trying to sync with
[15:44] <Ademan> Threetimes: are you comfortable with the command line? i don't see why the sqlite command (in the sqlite package) wouldn't be able to open that database
[15:44] <charlize_> hello
[15:44] <StrangeCharm_> [configuring network interfaces] is the only thing that fails when i boot a new install of 9.04 server what's going on?
[15:45] <nobody88> http://pastebin.com/d53125026   <----huge problem. please help me:(
[15:45] <cudev> ikonia: It does this on every boot. Telling it to stop with the init.d script every time does not seem like an ideal solution
[15:45] <cudev> ikonia: Where is the config file?
[15:46] <thefr34k> how would i stop the gnome-power-management - is it /etc/init.d/???? stop?
[15:46] <iNTEX> hello Ubuntu Army ^_^
[15:46] <belco> hello. how do i remove something i installed with sudo?
[15:46] <belco> i want to reinstall something but it says its already there but i deleted the files :/
[15:46] <thefr34k> belco: you mean apt?
[15:46] <StrangeCharm_> belco sudo apt-get remove <thing>
[15:46] <iNTEX> rm info ^_^
[15:46] <belco> i guess so :D
[15:47] <charlize_> guys how do i install netbeans
[15:47] <belco> transmission giving me headaches :/
[15:47] <StrangeCharm_> charlize_-  sudo apt-get install netbeans ?
[15:48] <Incarus> StrangeCharm_, right
[15:48] <charlize_> thank you
[15:48] <ikonia> cudev: sorry, I wasn't offering that as a solution, I meant stop it to stop the message so we can debug it
[15:48] <cudev> OK, so
[15:48] <StrangeCharm_> Incarus-  referring to my previous line?
[15:48] <belco> etting up transmission-common (1.34-0ubuntu2.2) ...
[15:48] <charlize_> stragecharm    thank you
[15:48] <ikonia> cudev: normally /etc/ntp.conf or /etc/ntpd.conf
[15:48] <belco> why does it set up a old transmission?
[15:48] <Incarus> StrangeCharm_, the last thing you said
[15:48] <cudev> ikonia: I did updatedb and then locate ntp.conf and no results came up
[15:49] <Incarus> belco, maybe repo version is too old(?)
[15:49] <hatseflats> 'gday everyone
[15:49] <ikonia> cudev: ls /etc | grep tn p
[15:49] <ikonia> cudev: ls /etc | grep ntp
[15:49] <cudev> ikonia: nothing
[15:49] <ikonia> hang on
[15:49] <hatseflats> where would the setting for screen rotation be stored?
[15:49] <Incarus> belco, latest should be 1.51-0ubuntu3
[15:49] <StrangeCharm_> belco-  try apt-get update first, and check the official versions in the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:50] <ikonia> !ntp
[15:50] <hatseflats> upt to GDM is good, after I log in, all artifact-y, and non-reable crud on screen
[15:50] <Incarus> hatseflats, screen settings are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:50] <sarmisak> hi all
[15:51] <hatseflats> icewaterman: it's a user-level thing, GDM is still okay, it's not xorg.conf
[15:51] <ikonia> cudev: ok - you should have an /etc/ntp.conf if you have not got that, it could explain why it is struggling to start
[15:51] <Incarus> hatseflats, <<where would the setting for screen rotation be stored?>> -> xorg.conf
[15:53] <Incarus> hatseflats, which ubuntu version? and paste Xorg.0.log
[15:53] <bauer_> howto install openoffice 3.1 on ubuntu 9.04
[15:53] <Threetimes> !nl | hatseflats
[15:53] <wrektjet> hey all. just got a new cd and i want to copy the songs onto my comp in the highest possible quality. what program should i use?
[15:53]  * Threetimes is also Nederlandsch!
[15:53] <Incarus> Threetimes, ?
[15:54] <Threetimes> !rip | wrektjet
[15:54] <Cripps> what happens if I try attaching more than 26 scsi devices to my computer? Does it go past sdzX   ?
[15:54] <Threetimes> Incarus: I feel that hatseflats is dutch (like I am) and I wanted to show him the Dutch ubuntu channel
[15:54] <Cripps> does it start again at sdaa ?
[15:54] <Cripps> er ... sdaaX
[15:54] <Nitrousoxide> Pici: ok thanks for everythin'
[15:54] <Incarus> wrektjet, "grip", and ripp with wav
[15:54] <wrektjet> threetimes is that how i can get highest qulaity with soun d juicer?
[15:54] <Incarus> Threetimes, k
[15:55] <Nitrousoxide> wrekjet: what is grip?
[15:55] <thefr34k> how would i stop the gnome-power-management - is it /etc/init.d/???? stop?
[15:55] <Threetimes> wrektjet: I don't rip CD's, but you can probable coos a lot of formats,. Flac should be the best, but i really won't her any difference
[15:55] <Threetimes> choose*
[15:55] <Incarus> wrektjet, highest possbile quality for ripping cds is the audio format "wav"
[15:56] <skypilot> I know this isn't really related to ubuntu (but i am using it) but i can't seem to get files shared from a windows box (samba) to play on exaile
[15:56] <Incarus> Nitrousoxide, grip is an audio ripper
[15:56] <LogicFan> Incarus, there are lossless codecs as well that will be better on hd space vs. wav dumps
[15:56] <Nitrousoxide> Inc: thanks
[15:56] <LogicFan> currently, the best cd ripper for linux is RubyRipper
[15:56] <Incarus> LogicFan, k
[15:57] <Incarus> LogicFan, the best? lol. i think you can't really say that. i'm using grip
[15:57] <LogicFan> it uses a secure ripping method to accurately reproduce the disc and correct any errors
[15:58] <LogicFan> Incarus, unless grip uses cdparanoia -Z, yes rubyripper is the best
[15:58] <wrektjet> wondering if  rhythmbox does wav?
[15:58] <iceroot> wrektjet: sure
[15:58] <skypilot> wrektjet, just about everything can play wav
[15:58] <LogicFan> RubyRipper will also rip with your drive's offset value
[15:59] <wrektjet> thnx just doublechecking
[15:59] <cudev> ikonia: still there?
[16:00] <tehbaut> where is /usr/share/grub at on ubuntu?
[16:00] <Incarus> LogicFan, hm, grip use cdparanoia and cdparanoia extra, and scratch things
[16:01] <Incarus> !grub
[16:01] <Threetimes> !best | LogicFan
[16:02] <Threetimes> LogicFan: sound quality/accuracy is not the only factor
[16:02] <cudev> ikonia: Apparently, I was on the wrong box :S I've got it all confirmed now though. /etc/ntp.d has the server ntp.ubuntu.com listed and the box can ping that address
[16:02] <tehbaut> Incarus, I'm trying to make a grub bootable cd
[16:02] <moncky> join #ubunti-bots
[16:02] <LogicFan> Threetimes, when ripping a disc?
[16:02] <tehbaut> following this guide: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM.html#Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM
[16:02] <Incarus> tehbaut, there is a /boot/grub folder, dont know if its the same
[16:02] <LogicFan> if you don't want to accurately reproduce the CD without any errors, you must not be ripping a CD
[16:03] <tehbaut> trying to copy the stage2 eltorito
[16:03] <Incarus> moncky, ubunti?
[16:03] <nztal-> anyone have a apple wireless keyboard and know how to get it to not have to repair with the bluetooth applet after every reboot ?  i have to login with a wired keyboard and repair after logging into GDM after every reboot.  once i'm in gnome, and repair, i'm fine
[16:03] <Incarus> tehbaut, yeah, is in /boot/grub
[16:03] <moncky> Incarus: big fingers
[16:03] <|PaperTiger|> Can someone name a good instant messenger to use, apart from Pidgin
[16:03] <Incarus> moncky, kk
[16:03] <ikonia> cudev: ok - that's not a bad start
[16:03] <Threetimes> LogicFan: I can't hear the difference anyway, but user-friendlyness and system intergration are alse important to me. You may have another opinion, but not everybody has.
[16:04] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, kopete is the kde messenger
[16:04] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, whats the problem with pidgin?
[16:04] <tehbaut> Incarus, I see 'stage2
[16:04] <ikonia> cudev: ok - so now do an /etc/init.d/ntp start
[16:04] <Nitrousoxide> IS there a Ctrl+Alt+del equivalent on linux, it just occured to me that i never asked
[16:04] <Incarus> tehbaut, sure
[16:04] <ikonia> cudev: use sudo of course
[16:04] <tehbaut> ' but no 'stage2_eltorito'
[16:04] <tehbaut> are they the same?
[16:04] <wrektjet> j #grip
[16:05] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, randomy keeps closing on me, files don't transfer
[16:05] <Incarus> tehbaut, oh, i dont know
[16:05] <Incarus> tehbaut, try it ;-)
[16:05] <Nitrousoxide> Is there a ctrl alt del ~ on ubuntu
[16:05] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, which ubuntu and which pdigin version?
[16:05] <Incarus> Nitrousoxide, ctrl alt backspace is for restarting xserver, but was disabled in 9.04
[16:05] <|PaperTiger|> 8.10 and 2.5.2
[16:06] <bastid_razor> !dontzap | Incarus Nitrousoxide
[16:06] <Incarus> bastid_razor, thx, but its for Nitrousoxide
[16:06] <meteor``> whenever I add any program from add/remove menu, is it's setup downloaded anywhere?
[16:06] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, are you loosing connection?
[16:06] <meteor``> What if i need standalone packages of all of them
[16:07] <Nitrousoxide> ahk thanks bastid and incarus,
[16:07] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, no, it just closes on me. Total program close.
[16:07] <Nitrousoxide> sadly i have Jaunty
[16:07] <world_ate_jimmy> Why is my disk unallocated on GParted but I can mount the partitions on 9.04 Live Boot_
[16:07] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, ??? januty is 9.04
[16:08] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, are you using icq protocol?
[16:08] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I'm not on Jaunty, that was someone else who said that
[16:08] <wrektjet> grip is not recognzing the cd can someone help me out possibly>?
[16:08] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, uh, sry
[16:08] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, no worries, easy mistake =]
[16:08] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, i looked on the wrong line XD
[16:08] <secher> Hmm.. quick question.  I've installed Samba, and created a share.  People can connect to the share, but they cannot write to it, getting a permission denied error when trying to write.  I've granted the permission to write to the drive.  Any ideas anyone?
[16:09] <meteor``> whenever I add any program from add/remove menu, is it's setup downloaded anywhere?
[16:09] <Threetimes> meteor``: you can download any package on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[16:09] <wrektjet> anyone recognize this error: Could not open location 'cdda://sr0/' Failed to execute child process "sound-juicer" (No such file or directory)
[16:09] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I do it all the time too :P
[16:09] <Nitrousoxide> Hey, alt+k+sys req, thats to screenshot
[16:09] <meteor``> tthanx  threetimes.
[16:09] <Incarus> secher, maybe a firewall, or selinux (?)
[16:10] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, are you using icq protocol?
[16:10] <Incarus> Nitrousoxide, XD
[16:10] <world_ate_jimmy> any help?
[16:10] <Incarus> Nitrousoxide, then enable ctr alt backspace
[16:10] <Threetimes> !ask | world_ate_jimmy
[16:10] <Nitrousoxide> Incarus, no can do, no such command
[16:10] <tehbaut> Incarus, ah looks like it's in /usr/lib/grub not /usr/share/grub
[16:10] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: I already asked
[16:10] <secher> Incarus: If it were a firewall, I wouldn't be able to connect, would I?  And not running SELinux.  Hrm.
[16:10] <Incarus> tehbaut, ok
[16:10] <world_ate_jimmy> Why is my disk unallocated on GParted but I can mount the partitions on 9.04 Live Boot?
[16:10] <StrangeCharm_> [configuring network interfaces] fails on boot in a new install of 9.04 server what's going on?
[16:10] <tehbaut> God bless ubuntu's speedy search, even on system files :D
[16:10] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: what was the question
[16:11] <Nitrousoxide> Incarus: command not found,sudo dontzap --disable
[16:11] <snarkster> how do you find what your audio device is? Im trying to use a webcam software to record some events round the house, but it keeps saying cant find /dev/dsp
[16:11] <Incarus> secher, isnt selinux standard in jaunty?
[16:11] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, no
[16:11] <bastid_razor> Nitrousoxide, you have to install dontzap the package frist
[16:11] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: Why is my disk unallocated on GParted but I can mount the partitions on 9.04 Live Boot?
[16:11] <Nitrousoxide> bastid: from?
[16:11] <bastid_razor> Nitrousoxide, sudo apt-get install dontzap && sudo dontzap --disable
[16:11] <Nitrousoxide> bastid: synaptic?
[16:11] <doc_brown> !resolution
[16:12] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: you mean gparted shows the partition as "unallocated space"? Screenshot please, I don't believe it...
[16:12] <Incarus> Threetimes,XD
[16:12] <secher> Incarus: I don't know, is it?
[16:12] <Incarus> secher, good question, wait
[16:12] <cudev> ikonia: Sorry about that
[16:12] <Incarus> secher, maybe iptables is blocking
[16:13] <secher> |PaperTiger| was that 'no' directed to the exchange between Incarusa and I?
[16:13] <secher> Incarus: I've turned off firewall entirely.
[16:13] <meteor``> Threetimes, I have installed so many things from the add remove panel. Are the 'setup' files still present in my hard-disk?
[16:13] <cudev> ikonia: booted box, got error, stoped and then started using etc/init.d/ntp stop and start, and am still getting it printed to my screen after that
[16:13] <doc_brown> jaunty max resolution is 800x600?
[16:13] <Incarus> secher, i think selinux is preinstalled
[16:13] <Threetimes> meteor``: yes, but i don't know where...
[16:13] <Incarus> doc_brown, no, just wrong drivers
[16:14] <Nitrousoxide> bastid: still doesnt work
[16:14] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: http://imgur.com/NLzIu.png
[16:14] <meteor``> Threetimes, aright.
[16:14] <secher> Incarus: Hmm.. how do I disable selinux, is there a simple way?  Thsi is for proof of concept, not production.
[16:14] <doc_brown> Incarus, is there a good article on how to find which drivers you need and install?
[16:15] <Incarus> meteor``, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:15] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, iqc protocol
[16:15] <Nitrousoxide> bastid: any idea?
[16:15] <Incarus> secher, ask the nsa ;-) , no, i dont know, or maybe it isnt enabled
[16:15] <|404NotFound|> i installed mod-security aptitude install libapache2-mod-security2 and issue is that when i do a2enmod mod-security or even with security2, it says mod doesnt exist
[16:15] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: right disk selected?
[16:16] <world_ate_jimmy> It-s a laptop, no other choices
[16:16] <meteor``> Incarus, thanx. These are all the packages I have installed? Including the drivers and other programs?
[16:16] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, for transfering files in icq you have to change settings. something like indirect connection, or icq.com proxy or something should be enabled
[16:16] <meteor``> I want to install all of them to another computer system which is not having Internet connection.
[16:16] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I'm just using pidgin for MSN
[16:16] <Incarus> meteor``, maybe some old packages are deleted, i dont know XD
[16:16] <bastid_razor> !aptoncd | meteor``
[16:16] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, k, im using pidgin version 2.5.7
[16:17] <StrangeCharm_> configuring network interfaces fails on boot in a new install of 9.04 server what's going on?
[16:17] <meteor``> ty
[16:17] <Incarus> doc_brown, yeah, wait a sec
[16:17] <meteor``> !offline
[16:17] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, ah, there's an updated version...
[16:17] <bastid_razor> Nitrousoxide, press the key combo in the correct order alt-sysrq-k
[16:17] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, yep. im using karmic version in jaunty
[16:18] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, ah, okay. You used SIM?
[16:18] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I'm thinking of trying that, seeing what it's like.
[16:18] <Nitrousoxide> bastid: Woah, wtf it just filled my monitor full of fuzzz, oh back to loin menu
[16:18] <rayno_b> I'm setting up iptables and after I've allowed (what I think I should allow), my users still can't resolve internet domain names.
[16:18] <thefr34k> wow so If i suspend my session to RAM and resume it everythign is nice and bright
[16:18] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, SIM?
[16:18] <thefr34k> however xbacklight does not work nor anything else
[16:18] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, Simple Instant Messenger
[16:18] <tehbaut> how do I erase a cd-rw in 8.04?
[16:18] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: sorry for the delay, i got called
[16:18] <Incarus> Nitrousoxide, yes, xserver restart
[16:19] <thefr34k> i have tried echoing values - i have tride installing cvs nclock
[16:19] <meteor``> bastid_razor, I have downloadedand installed it.
[16:19] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, what is that? XD
[16:19] <thefr34k> this is on an Acer 7720 (Geforce 8400M)
[16:19] <Incarus> doc_brown, what graphic card are you using?
[16:19] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: what is the output of df -h?
[16:19] <Incarus> !SIM
[16:19] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, what is says :) Another instant messenger
[16:19] <Dinmukh_10> hello everyone, have installed ununtu on vmware workstation 5.5.9, how is it possible to copy files from ubuntu to the host os and vice versa ?
[16:19] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, no, i dont use that XD
[16:19] <tehbaut> uh oh, I'm not sure ubuntu can read my cd-rw
[16:19] <tehbaut> :/
[16:20] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I'm going to try it. Seems okay
[16:20] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, what are you trying?
[16:20] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, updating?
[16:20] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, or sim?
[16:20] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, SIM
[16:20] <Incarus> k
[16:20] <doc_brown> Incarus, im not sure
[16:20] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, updating is also a good idea. you could update your ubuntu version ;-)
[16:21] <Sarge_TJ> Hi! Is there any way to configure ubuntu to wake from suspend state with any other key than the power button? For example with the space bar?
[16:21] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: http://pastebin.com/m630155c6
[16:21] <Incarus> doc_brown, ok. can you paste (in terminal): "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"?
[16:21] <secher> what's the tool for managing user shares?
[16:21] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I don't know if there is support for my graphics card, last time I updated, I had to reinstall 8.10 from scratch 'cos there was no support... :(
[16:21] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, ati?
[16:21] <|404NotFound|> is ksplice.com down?
[16:21] <bastid_razor> !offline > meteor`` follow the instructions
[16:22] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, how'd you guess :P
[16:22] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: that's from a livecd?
[16:22] <doc_brown> Incarus, no such file
[16:22] <world_ate_jimmy> yes
[16:22] <world_ate_jimmy> 9.04
[16:22] <Incarus> doc_brown, "X", not "x"
[16:23] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, yeah, i thought so. you can make a kernel update ;-)
[16:23] <Threetimes> ok. try sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs (yes, you can install software in a livecd session)
[16:23] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, I'm using karmic kernel on jaunty
[16:23] <doc_brown> !paste
[16:23] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, like I have any idea how to do that! lol
[16:23] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, should i write how?
[16:23] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, is it long and complicated?
[16:24] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, 'cos I'm quite happy with 8.10 atm :P
[16:24] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, no, very easy
[16:24] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, in that case, go for it!
[16:24] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, yeah, you will have still 8.10, but a newer kernel
[16:24] <doc_brown> Incarus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/222788/
[16:24] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, and updating the kernal does what?
[16:25] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, think I should jsut say... I'm using KDE, not GNOME.
[16:25] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, fixing bugs
[16:25] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, thats not important
[16:25] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, just thought I'd check :)
[16:25] <world_ate_jimmy> ntfsprogs is already the newest version
[16:26] <th0r> |PaperTiger|: the new kernel killed my internal wifi card on jaunty
[16:26] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, x86 or 64 bit?
[16:26] <Incarus> th0r, lol
[16:26] <tehbaut> do I have to do something specific to get 8.04 to mount a cd-rw?
[16:26] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, x86
[16:26] <|PaperTiger|> th0r, I'm not using wireless. I'm wired
[16:26] <tehbaut> ubuntu isn't picking up my disk
[16:26] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: ok, do you want to shrink your vista partition to dual-boot with ubuntu (just guessing...)?
[16:26] <|PaperTiger|> th0r, but thtat does suck...
[16:27] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, ok wait
[16:27] <StrangeCharm_> Configuring network interfaces fails on boot in a new install of 9.04 server. What's going on?
[16:27] <bastid_razor> |PaperTiger|, you have great potential to break things when doing what Incarus is suggesting.
[16:27] <world_ate_jimmy> not for now
[16:27] <shivek> Hi everyone ^^D
[16:27] <th0r> |PaperTiger|: fits with my overall luck with jaunty
[16:27] <|PaperTiger|> bastid_razor, this is why I've stuck to 8.10 atm... The upgrade made me start again because there is no downgrade path
[16:27] <ddervisk> Hey, a relatively new Linux user here.
[16:27] <ddervisk> I'm using a HP Laptop and have the dreaded no sound issue.
[16:27] <ddervisk> Other sound devices work (like USB headset) although the laptops default speakers and headphone jack.
[16:27] <ddervisk> I tried a couple of fixes online, nothing worked so far.
[16:27] <ddervisk> Anyone heard of this issue before?
[16:27] <FloodBot3> ddervisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: run "sudo parted", and than "print"
[16:28] <Threetimes> then*
[16:28] <shivek> Please give a command for deleting index.html located at /vae/www . Also give a command for moving index.html located at desktop to /var/www folder .
[16:28] <Threetimes> shivek: rm /var/www/inedx.html
[16:28] <shivek> Its not vae its var
[16:29] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: http://pastebin.com/m40450bfe
[16:29] <budo> sound is not working. and im under xfce.
[16:29] <Pici> !cli > shivek
[16:29] <Threetimes> shivek mv mv ~./Desktop/index.html /ver/www/
[16:29] <bastid_razor> shivek, sudo mv ~/Desktop/index.html /var/www/  .. that will overwrite the existing index file
[16:29] <budo> can anyone help
[16:29] <Incarus> !trash
[16:29] <th0r> shivek: sudo del /var/www/index.html && mv ~/Desktop/index.html /var/www
[16:30] <th0r> I can do that chore in one line
[16:30] <bastid_razor> th0r, and i did it with less typing, still in one line
[16:30] <tehbaut> might I need to install a driver for my cd drive? it's not picking up my cd-rw's
[16:30] <th0r> bastid_razor: well....he wanted the delete first <smile>
[16:31] <StrangeCharm_> Configuring network interfaces fails on boot in a new install of 9.04 server. What's going on?
[16:31] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, download http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.31-3-generic_2.6.31-3.19_i386.deb
[16:31] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, to desktop or something
[16:31] <doc_brown> Incarus, does that log look helpful?
[16:31] <secher> Ok, I think I've thoroughlly munged the Samba install.  I tried to apt-get remove --purge the samba package, to no avail, the configuation directories i.e. /etc/samba were still present.   How to I tell Ubuntu to COMPLETELY purge any and all packages, directories and files related to Samba, including those on teh recommended list?  I want to start with a completely fresh Samba install.
[16:31] <lyhana8> hi
[16:31] <Incarus> doc_brown, wait a sec
[16:32] <_UsUrPeR_> does anyone know how to change the NIC wakeonlan broadcasts from?
[16:32] <ikonia> _UsUrPeR_: normally a bios setting
[16:32] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, then install with "sudo dpkg -i [FOLDER]/linux-image-2.6.31-3-generic_2.6.31-3.19_i386.deb", and report errors later, pls
[16:32] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, tbh, I'll probably wait 'til I'm sure there's support for my gfx and just upgrade to Jauny
[16:32] <ikonia> _UsUrPeR_: normally only one card on a board has it (home user kit)
[16:32] <th0r> secher: don't worry about it....the new install will overwrite any important configs, etc
[16:33] <lyhana8> does firefox 3.5 is on the hardy repositories ?
[16:33] <_UsUrPeR_> ikonia: I am talking about broadcasting, not receiving. You are correct about that though.
[16:33] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, there should be no risk ;-)
[16:33] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: you have only one big partition?
[16:33] <Incarus> lyhana8, yes, as firefox-3.5
[16:33] <world_ate_jimmy> right now, yes
[16:33] <StrangeCharm_> Why would 9.04 fail to configure network interfaces?
[16:33] <world_ate_jimmy> i wanted to ditch that but i was short of time
[16:33] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I still don't want to push my luck. DIdn't go to well last time I tried playing about with something like that. Had to fully reinstall
[16:33] <lyhana8> Incarus: why not as default version ?
[16:33] <shivek> Thank you  Threetimes, Pici, bastid_razor, th0r, and specially ubottu(Error: Don't think I'm intelligent, I'm just a Bot) ^^D
[16:34] <world_ate_jimmy> however, i just brought my wii hdd
[16:34] <bastid_razor> |PaperTiger|, should be no risk, is false. there is a huge risk.. be wary
[16:34] <Incarus> doc_brown, i need the full log
[16:34] <ikonia> _UsUrPeR_: I thought it would only broadcast on the one that's able to recieve
[16:34] <Incarus> lyhana8, good question
[16:34] <world_ate_jimmy> seems like i had some space on it for a new partition and created one to copy all my stuff
[16:34] <Incarus> lyhana8, i think its still beta version
[16:34] <Incarus> lyhana8, in the repo
[16:35] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, you can boot in grub in the old kernel
[16:35] <_UsUrPeR_> ikonia: I believe any NIC can broadcast magic packets
[16:35] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: what exactly did you do? You copied all your data from your vista partition to where?
[16:35] <doc_brown> Incarus, that's all i have in the terminal window
[16:35] <Pici> !ff35 | Incarus lyhana8
[16:35] <doc_brown> i found my video card is ASUS X1550
[16:36] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, I'm still quite new to all this, so I'll probably leave it 'til I know more about how it all works etc.
[16:36] <lyhana8> I plan to move from kubuntu to OpenSuSe any critics about this move ?
[16:36] <tehbaut> ok, this is starting to get annoying
[16:36] <|PaperTiger|> Incarus, thanks though.
[16:36] <doc_brown> Incarus, ASUS X1550 (ATI)
[16:36] <Incarus> doc_brown, maybe terminal is cutting the beginning, then paste "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:36] <world_ate_jimmy> no, i connected a usb drive to the laptop; then i created an ntfs partition to copy my files
[16:36] <Incarus> Pici, thx, i thought that was the name of the beta
[16:36] <Incarus> doc_brown, thx
[16:36] <Incarus> doc_brown, then dont paste
[16:36] <tehbaut> now ubuntu won't load my usb disk :/
[16:36] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: ok, do you use ubuntu to fix a broken vista or something?
[16:37] <Incarus> doc_brown, you need to install ati drivers for that
[16:37] <world_ate_jimmy> i haven't copy anything yet because i can't mount it
[16:37] <doc_brown> Incarus, great, is there an article about that somewhere?
[16:37] <Incarus> lyhana8, yeah, my graphic card didnt work in opensuse
[16:37] <world_ate_jimmy> i'm trying to do that, yes
[16:37] <Incarus> |PaperTiger|, np
[16:37] <Incarus> doc_brown, yes
[16:37] <Incarus> !ati
[16:37] <Incarus> doc_brown, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:38] <lyhana8> Pici: so no official Fx3.5 for hardy...
[16:38] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive; mount /dev/sdSomething /media/usbdrive
[16:38] <Incarus> lyhana8, it is the official
[16:38] <Pici> lyhana8: No.
[16:38] <lyhana8> Incarus: which graphic card do you have ?
[16:39] <Incarus> lyhana8, an old SiS 360
[16:39] <world_ate_jimmy> thx
[16:39] <lyhana8> Pici: but hardy is a LTS
[16:39] <Jessicatz> how do I change my desktop color depth in jaunty (using gnome)?
[16:39] <lyhana8> Incarus: ok
[16:39] <Guest52871> LTS runner here and it's way better
[16:39] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: does it actually work? This should be automatic.
[16:39] <Incarus> lyhana8, but if you use a new graphic card, then opensuse is a good idea ;-)
[16:39] <doc_brown> Incarus, does the fact that jaunty is running in a vbox change things?
[16:39] <world_ate_jimmy> yes, it worked
[16:40] <Incarus> doc_brown, not really
[16:40] <Spikemcc> Welcome back all !!!
[16:40] <Pici> lyhana8: So? That only ensures that you will  receive security updates. There is no guarantee that you will get new package versions outside of that.
[16:40] <lyhana8> so I will give a shot
[16:40] <Incarus> lyhana8, oh, and one thing:
[16:40] <tehbaut> heh, so even ubuntu can't escape the need to restart
[16:40] <lyhana8> Pici: oh~ ok then
[16:40] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: cool. You can copy your files safely now.
[16:40] <Incarus> lyhana8, installation process didnt work for me 11.1 and 11.0, i installed 10.3 and updated it, but should work now
[16:41] <Incarus> lyhana8, didnt use wubi or a cd ;-)
[16:41] <world_ate_jimmy> Error stating file '/media/Vista Home Premium/Users/Jorge Mario/AppData/Roaming/uTorrent/resume.dat.old': Input/output error
[16:41] <Spikemcc> need help for tv tuner setup, working with mplayer /dev/video1 but cannot change channels or more advanced options ...
[16:41] <tehbaut> how do I get ubuntu to stop asking for the password on boot up?
[16:41] <Incarus> tehbaut, kde or gnome?
[16:42] <Incarus> tehbaut, kdm or gdm?
[16:42] <leaf-sheep> tehbaut: Passwords are seriously awesome.
[16:42] <Vlet> tehbaut: In the Login Screen control panel
[16:42]  * leaf-sheep <3 passwords!
[16:42] <tehbaut> Incarus, gnome
[16:42] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: I guess your vista partition is a bit corrupted.
[16:42] <Incarus> leaf-sheep, i think he know what he do, if he ask for it
[16:42]  * Vlet trusts door locks
[16:42] <Incarus> tehbaut, k
[16:43] <Spikemcc> tehbaut system > admin > login
[16:43] <nuke_> Hello
[16:43] <Vlet> ohai
[16:43] <Incarus> !google
[16:43] <Incarus> oh...
[16:44] <tehbaut> thanks Spikemcc
[16:44] <tehbaut> also, I rebooted and it still doesn't recognize my usb drive :/
[16:44] <Incarus> tehbaut, which ubuntu version?
[16:44] <doc_brown> Incarus, thanks!  good luck in here, you should look into cloning =)
[16:44] <andu> could anyone help me get my touchpad to work ?
[16:44] <Spikemcc> problems left on my setup if you can help tell me please : tv tuner, multi-monitoring, frets on fire, backup, encryption, printer, modem, wardriving, multi-gamepad, age of empire II conqueror ...
[16:44] <tehbaut> 8.04
[16:44] <Incarus> doc_brown, np
[16:45] <Incarus> tehbaut, usb devices dont have auto mount
[16:45] <tehbaut> Incarus, I've had no problems with them mounting up to this point
[16:45] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: Encryption? You didn't download alternate disc, did you?
[16:45] <Incarus> tehbaut, k
[16:45] <Spikemcc> tehdrive shortcut > your usb drive > put your password ...
[16:45] <tehbaut> they show up, I double click... it mounts and I'm in
[16:46] <tehbaut> but in this case, it doesn't even show up
[16:46] <Sarge_TJ> Hi! I need to know if I can configure my system to unsuspend by pressing any key? I often have my laptop connected to a monitor at home, so it would be very convenient not to have to open the lid and press press the power button...
[16:46] <Spikemcc> leaf-sheep I have hours of customizing on my setup that I don't wanna lose ...
[16:46] <Incarus> tehbaut, try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"
[16:46] <jilbert> what's the best NIC configuration for Ubuntu server on Virtual box?, NAT? Bridged? or Host?
[16:47] <Incarus> Sarge_TJ, are you using kde?
[16:47] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: Backup your $HOME directory if you really want encryption.
[16:47] <gutlicht> hi, is there a jpeg viewer that takes care about embedded icc profiles for viewing? like gimp takes care for editing?
[16:47] <Sarge_TJ> Incarus, nope. Xfce
[16:47] <Incarus> k
[16:47] <jilbert> i think something is wrong with my configuration,.. can't install desktop because the repositories are down.
[16:47] <world_ate_jimmy> what could have caused that issue with the partitions? and how is gnome file manager able to get them even if gparted isn't?
[16:47] <Spikemcc> leaf-sheep It will be at last ... first my stuff should run well ...
[16:48] <Incarus> jilbert, the repo is not down...
[16:48] <jilbert> Incarus: i can't install the ubuntu-desktop
[16:48] <Incarus> jilbert, just that file?
[16:48] <Guest6195> hello is thro there
[16:48] <linuxn00b> thro
[16:49] <leaf-sheep> Spikemcc: Multimonitor.  You plug in the cord.  Look under Nvidia X Server.  Turn it on and stuffs there.
[16:49] <linuxn00b> Guest6195: no
[16:49] <nuke_> Hello again
[16:49] <Pici> jilbert: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:49] <nuke_> How to deactivate mouse keys on 9.04?
[16:49] <jilbert> pici: Ubuntu server 9.04
[16:49] <Incarus> jilbert, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-desktop
[16:49] <guest__> wtf
[16:49] <guest__> FUCK YOU
[16:49] <Incarus> !ln | guest__
[16:49] <jilbert> Incarus: gnome is not installed on server
[16:49] <Spikemcc> leaf-sheep I got an Ati it's not easy ...
[16:49] <Pici> guest__: Please watch your language.
[16:49] <linuxn00b> is it possible to send simleys through IRC?
[16:49] <Incarus> thx
[16:50] <mrpinky> linuxn00b, yes, :D
[16:50] <Threetimes> !language | guest__
[16:50] <linuxn00b> guest__: !!!??@@*#
[16:50] <Guest6195> does anybody know how to do remote_desk top
[16:50] <jiffe> anyone know when mysql-server-5.1 will make it to 8.04's repository ?
[16:50] <Incarus> jilbert, ubuntu-desktop need gnome. are you using kde?
[16:50] <jilbert> Incarus: i don't know.. just installed the server
[16:50] <linuxn00b> Guest6195: isnt that easy, through the menus
[16:50] <Incarus> jilbert, then you dont need that file i think
[16:51] <jilbert> Incarus: im not famillar with baash
[16:51] <linuxn00b> Guest6195: if you do it the noob way
[16:51] <Pici> Incarus: ubuntu-desktop is the metapackage that includes all the stuff the is included on the Ubuntu Desktop install.
[16:51] <Spikemcc> one more time ... an idea for multi-monitoring on a ati laptop ?
[16:51] <jilbert> Incarus: im new to linux to be honest.. at least i want to install the packages
[16:52] <Incarus> jilbert, ubuntu-desktop is using gnome, kubuntu-desktop is using kde, i think you want to install ubuntu-minimal
[16:52] <Incarus> is using=need
[16:52] <jilbert> Incarus: i used this one : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:52] <jilbert> Incarus: i prefer Gnome
[16:52] <Incarus> jilbert, you want to install gnome?
[16:52] <Threetimes> jilbert: do you want a desktop installation with grapical applications on Ubuntu Server?
[16:52] <jilbert> Incarus: i have to go. thanks for your helf.. ill get back later
[16:53] <world_ate_jimmy> hmm... is there any way to make the copy go faster>? hehe
[16:53] <Incarus> jilbert, ok, bye
[16:53] <jilbert> Threetimes: yeah that's exactly what i want
[16:53] <Incarus> jilbert, i think "sudo apt-get install gnome"
[16:53] <h32Lg> hi
[16:53] <Threetimes> !info gnome
[16:53] <Guest6195> a person in here lastknight help me out on the remote desktop.Iam trying to do it on bouth my laptop and my desktop .i can get ping's but not anything ele
[16:54] <Threetimes> !info ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-desktop
[16:54] <h32Lg> why doesnt xchat save my favourit channels ? i'm using ubuntu jaunty
[16:54] <Incarus> Guest6195, iptables is the firewall in ubuntu.check settings
[16:54] <Threetimes> !info ubuntu-minimal
[16:54] <Threetimes> !info ubuntu-desktop
[16:54] <Pici> !msgthebot
[16:54] <Incarus> lol
[16:54] <Threetimes> Pici, ubottu: it's not for myself only.
[16:56] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, I guess I shoulden't be surprised that Vista is having trouble booting after all that muckiung around I did with it's partition in GParted... I was more surprised that grub was still working.
[16:56] <jon> can anybody plese help me out
[16:57] <Incarus> !ask | jon
[16:57] <Spikemcc> need help for 2nd monitor on my Ati
[16:57] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: what version of fglrx do you have?
[16:57] <world_ate_jimmy> I remembered why i didn't installed ubuntu on this lappy
[16:57] <Incarus> Cyber_Akuma, i think i heard something about, that the vista partition have to be the first... (grub is in the mbr, so change partition settings wont change something in grub)
[16:58] <world_ate_jimmy> the composition engine didn't worked
[16:58] <Spikemcc> don't know how I check ?
[16:58] <gameover> chaostheory
[16:58] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: fglxinfo
[16:58] <Slart> 1flac
[16:58] <Slart> !flac
[16:58] <Guest99634jon> can anybody help me on the remote desktop
[16:58] <Incarus> gameover, dont spam
[16:58] <jacquesdupontd> re
[16:58] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: fglrxinfo* sorry
[16:58] <dejongge> wb
[16:58] <jacquesdupontd> i have a question
[16:58] <Guest99634jon> i can just get pings
[16:59] <Threetimes> !ask | jacquesdupontd
[16:59] <jacquesdupontd> i would like to resize my ext3 partition and i'm on multiboot and i would like to know if it will erase bootsectors ?
[16:59] <Spikemcc> !paste
[16:59] <freelanceuser> is ubuntu safe still safe if i deactivate restricted and multiverse
[16:59] <adhil> Hi there, i have a prob with my wifi..It was working fine. But recently when i click the network manager applet icon it shows under wireless networks device not managed. I tried reinstalling the NetworkManager but it doesn't resolved the issue. Am using Ubuntu 9.04.Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in advance
[16:59] <jacquesdupontd> or act on mbr, grub
[16:59] <jacquesdupontd> guess i have to do that on the live cd
[16:59] <Threetimes> jacquesdupontd: it wont touch your boot sector, grub wil still work
[16:59] <Spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/222815/
[16:59] <Incarus> Guest99634jon, i said: check iptables settings, maybe its blocking the connection
[16:59] <jacquesdupontd> perfect
[16:59] <dejongge> you might want to try parted magic
[16:59] <jacquesdupontd> the thing is that i want to put less on the winxp partition and more and ubuntu one
[17:00] <Spikemcc> for my response but with an error of segmentation ...
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> Threetimes, will it works perfectly?
[17:00] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: for dual-monitor support, you have to upgrade to 9.5 or 9.6.
[17:00] <Threetimes> !ati | Spikemcc
[17:00] <dejongge> there should'nt be any problems
[17:00] <Spikemcc> 9.5 or 9.6 I can't ...
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> by the way those ati drivers on jaunty drive me crazy
[17:00] <Threetimes> jacquesdupontd: it will work without any problem
[17:00] <bonbon> is there any PPA, or some repo, from where i can get latest version of scilab for ubuntu 8.04?
[17:00] <jacquesdupontd> thx Threetimes i was pretty sure about it but wanted to ask
[17:00] <Threetimes> Spike1506: what's the problem with 9.6/9.6?
[17:01] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: ^
[17:01] <Spikemcc> 8.04.2 LTS on an old Ati
[17:01] <jacquesdupontd> Threetimes, still on issue on ati drivers old card like ati radeon 9000 for 3d acceleration ?
[17:01] <Spikemcc> dropped support ...
[17:01] <jacquesdupontd> Threetimes, on jaunty
[17:01] <jacquesdupontd> i know
[17:01] <dis-flux> anyone know how to get a Lexicon Alpha USB interface working in ubuntu?
[17:01] <jacquesdupontd> but i've heard about patches but don't know where is the research going
[17:02] <Spikemcc> so what does I do ?
[17:02] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: that's a shame... Buy an newer one or an nvidia. (realy, you *need* the newer drivers for dual monirors)
[17:02] <iamleneko> hey what is a good "raw read error rate" ?
[17:02] <Spikemcc> Laptop so I can't
[17:02] <konam> could somebody help me to set the CLASSPATH variable so that java put the .class compiled files in that folder automatically..?
[17:03] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: I fear that you have to live with just one screen if you don't want to buy a new laptop :(
[17:03] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: (or get ati to support older cards again, good luck...)
[17:03] <blind|melon|chit> Spikemcc: ATI's Linux support is shoddy at it's absolute best unfortunately
[17:03] <|404NotFound|> can someone explain to be what (redmine) in "%developers  ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/svn, /usr/bin/ant, (redmine) /usr/local/bin/git" means? Does it mean that users of developers group can su to redmine without any password?
[17:03] <jacquesdupontd> anybody has an answer ?
[17:04] <iamleneko> in S.M.A.R.T, is 66 a big raw_read_error_rate ?
[17:04] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, pls ask again
[17:05] <bastidrazor> |404NotFound|, that would mean they don't need sudo to run redmine ..
[17:05] <Spikemcc> tv tuner on linux that seem to work but softwares seem outdated to use it ...
[17:05] <Incarus> |404NotFound|, they are automatically running as super user, i think
[17:05] <|404NotFound|> bastidrazor, are you sure?
[17:06] <Threetimes> Spikemcc: I know nothing about tv tuners. Never had one.
[17:06] <Threetimes> !tv | Spikemcc
[17:06] <adhil> Hi there, i have a prob with my wifi..It was working fine. But recently when i click the network manager applet icon it shows under wireless networks device not managed. I tried reinstalling the NetworkManager but it doesn't resolved the issue. Am using Ubuntu 9.04.Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in advance
[17:06] <Spikemcc> done ...
[17:06] <erUSUL> |404NotFound|: afaics (reading sudoers man page) it will be able to run git only as redmine ( sudo -u redmine git )
[17:07] <Spikemcc> the tuner work with mplayer but nothing else, 1 channel no changing ...
[17:07] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, im talking about ati drivers old card like ati 9000 radeon and 3d acceleration
[17:07] <Miloz> I delete my all menus of Application, how can I restore them?
[17:07] <nicknicknick> Hello
[17:08] <nicknicknick> I need some review
[17:08] <nicknicknick> Can someone help me?
[17:08] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, i got a much older SiS 360 graphic card whith 3d hardware acceleration
[17:08] <th0r> adhil: try rebooting, when it starts the reboot press Esc to get the boot menu, and choose an earlier kernel. They just put out 28-14 the other day and it killed my wifi....went back to 28.13 and the problem went away
[17:08] <Threetimes> !ask | nicknicknick
[17:08] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, on jaunty ?
[17:08] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, on jaunty with some karmic packages+
[17:09] <|404NotFound|> okay, anybody has any idea about: "WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/5650/environ: Failed to open file '/proc/5650/environ': No such file or directory" i keep getting in my daemon.log after every mysql restart
[17:09] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, could you explain me cause i've been searching on internet and it seems there's no issue
[17:09] <tuxtox> Hi!  If I install compiz in an account that is not my root account, will it affect my root account?
[17:09] <dejongge> what's the package for the propietary things for ubuntu called?
[17:09] <dejongge> i know there is one
[17:10] <th0r> dejongge: ubuntu-nonfree?
[17:10] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, yes, some ati cards are unsupported in jaunty, but work in intrepid ibex
[17:10] <adhil> th0r thanks. i will try
[17:10] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, i know that but not ready to reinstall everything
[17:10] <Threetimes> jacquesdupontd: according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Prerequisites there's indeed no problem. I believe you need the radeonhd drivers
[17:10] <nicknicknick> Okay @ubutto .. sorry. I'm running jackalope, and today I've found a ubuntu Christian Edition at http://www.ubuntuce.com/. If I have to use that does it mean that I have to reinstall everything?
[17:10] <dejongge> that must be it, thanks
[17:10] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, i prefer to wait as open source drivers works perfectly except this 3d acceleration for games
[17:11] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, i have compiz and all working
[17:11] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, you just need to downgrade Xserver, or wait for newer graphic drivers
[17:11] <jacquesdupontd> Threetimes, long time i know this webpage by heart
[17:11] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, is downgrading xserver is easy and what will it affect ?
[17:12] <Threetimes> jacquesdupontd: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R6.7.0/doc/radeon.4.html ?
[17:12] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, wait a sec, lets have a look
[17:12] <chris__> how can i change the master volume?
[17:12] <lethal_> hey guy listen i installed ubunutu jaunty jackalope with wubi every thing was going fast till i asssociate it with compiz last time i just installed it so i reinstalled it basically when i boot as soon as the bar fills ithe screen  becoomes wierd with coloured lines and something that resembles static
[17:13] <Incarus> chris__, enter "alsamixer" in terminal
[17:13] <ubuntunewbie> hi , how to list a file using ls -l on a media disk having space between words ?
[17:13] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, 1. its not easy
[17:13] <mazda01> i am not using pulseaudio and I can't get sound to work in totem jaunty. any help please?
[17:13] <jacquesdupontd> Threetimes, i don't see my 9000 igp in the list do you see it ?
[17:14] <nicknicknick> Sorry for being a newbie,  I'm running jackalope, and today I've found a ubuntu Christian Edition at http://www.ubuntuce.com/. If I have to use that does it mean that I have to reinstall everything?
[17:14] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, so you're telling me it's better to wait and stop playing warsow ?
[17:14] <Threetimes> jacquesdupontd: RV250
[17:14] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: any ideas why that weird thing with the partition could happened?
[17:14] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, or use windows ;-)
[17:14] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, as everything else is working good
[17:14] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, or hack linux
[17:14] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, im sure it can work better in linux
[17:14] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, i dont think that downgrade will work
[17:14] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, yes
[17:14] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, it's not that good in windows shitty
[17:14] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: power outage, bad hard drive, someone plaed with a hammer near the drive, dust inside the drive, etc...
[17:14] <dreamy> does anyone gots the radeon LE, light edition ? and ever switched on hyperz?
[17:14] <ubuntunewbie> hi , how to list a file using ls -l on a media disk having space between words ? I mean something like this ? ls: cannot access /media/disk/Documents_and_Settings/user/Desktop: No such file or directory
[17:15] <world_ate_jimmy> anything
[17:15] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, right, so wait or program your own driver ;-)
[17:15] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, good joke ):
[17:15] <bastidrazor> ubuntu, /media/disk/Documents\ and\ Settings/
[17:15] <th0r> ubuntunewbie: put a \ before each space
[17:15] <bastidrazor> ubuntunewbie, ^^
[17:15] <bening> rip
[17:15] <jacquesdupontd> i know pretty well computers but i won't be able to do something like make my own drivers as nobody managed to do it in the world before me for jaunty
[17:15] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: yes, really anything. It could even be caused by software, but the only time it happened to me it was the power
[17:16] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, XD
[17:16] <nicknicknick> Can someone please answer me?
[17:16] <bening> i am happy to use ubuntu
[17:16] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, do it, you can use the opensource ati drivers ;-)
[17:16] <Incarus> nicknicknick, ask again
[17:16] <ubuntunewbie> th0r: ok thanks :)
[17:16] <heinz1> nicknicknick: Please read the webpage http://www.ubuntuce.com/convert.htm
[17:16] <Incarus> bening, nice
[17:16] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor:hi , thanks too :)
[17:16] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, and put a line like 3d acceleartion = enabled ? :X
[17:17] <lethal_> sorry did anyone answer cause i get lost on irc
[17:17] <bening> this is the one i only need
[17:17] <bening> thanks ubuntu
[17:17] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, hm, or your graphic card is on a black list in the Xorg1.7 (?) ati drivers, so you could delete that line ;-)
[17:17] <StrangeCharm_> how can i ask for a package's info with apt?
[17:17] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, thats a hack in compiz
[17:18] <jacquesdupontd> haha
[17:18] <magentar> StrangeCharm_, apt-cache showpkg
[17:18] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor , th0r: wanted to learn why need to put "\" ? the \ represent spacing ?
[17:18] <magentar> irc
[17:18] <cfm> Hi, I've just installed my first 64-bit Ubuntu (8.04.03), and apt-get update is failing with a Hash Sum Mismatch.  Is this a 64-bit thing that I need to configure differently, or a transient error that will likely be fixed tomorrow?
[17:18] <bening> install aditional software is very easy
[17:18] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, im not sure it will work otherwise people would have think about it before me
[17:18] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, err sorry before you
[17:18] <StrangeCharm_> magentar-  apt-cache show pkg?
[17:18] <Slart> cfm: the second I hope.. I've never had those kinds of problems
[17:18] <Slart> cfm: try using another mirror
[17:18] <magentar> apt-cache showpkg xyz
[17:19] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, k. in compiz its working ;-)
[17:19] <defrysk> StrangeCharm_, for more options try apt-cache -h
[17:19] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, i told you compiz works perfectly and btw it's pretty much amazing
[17:19] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, oh, and the ati drivers arent open source, so you can not delete that line
[17:19] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, i can watch like 3 videos at the same time and this computer is 5 years old computer
[17:20] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, compiz was just an example
[17:20] <Mud|brb> cfm: strange error, never got it before
[17:20] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, that's all the problem man, ati drivers are not open source :)
[17:20] <Mud|brb> cfm : did you try to google the error ?
[17:20] <cfm> Slart: Yes, hope so, but I'm using the main repos, which is why I'm concerned! :-)
[17:20] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, oh yeah
[17:21] <cfm> Mud|brb: Yes, there's a few hits from March that pointed to a problem that would be fixed soon, but nothing recent.
[17:21] <Slart> cfm: hrmpf.. let's hope they just poured a beer into the server or something
[17:21] <nessor> hi @ all
[17:21] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, but something will happen i just have to wait that they fix that xorg and the next monthes
[17:22] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, it will be years if nobody send ati a lot of spam mails ;-)
[17:22] <cfm> Slart: Indeed!  I'm trying to come up with a "foolproof" guide to installing a box (got a lot of them to do!) so I'd prefer to wait until things are back to normal rather than hack it now.
[17:22] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, i know hehe :)
[17:22] <web5|org|ua> HOW to blank DVD-RW with incorrect TOC ?
[17:22] <Slart> !clone | cfm, hope you've read this
[17:22] <cfm> I'll push ahead and update software later.  Cheers all!
[17:22] <jacquesdupontd> thx for trying to help Threetimes  btw
[17:22] <jacquesdupontd> and you too Incarus
[17:22] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, np
[17:23] <jacquesdupontd> before i go suddenly as my wife will be calling me hardly
[17:23] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, my card didnt work in opensuse. changing distri to ubuntu did help ;-)
[17:23] <lamtruong> ho
[17:23] <apparle> guys........................I am very happy.......jus tgot my sound card working through ALSA after 2years
[17:23] <Slart> cfm: hang on.. let me try installing something from the main repos.. I should get the same error, right?
[17:23] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor , th0r : wanted to ask , when ls -l all the file , adding -h will convert it to a human readable size like 1024b to 1kb something like that.How do I enable both ?
[17:23] <lamtruong> from vietnammess
[17:23] <bening> nessor hi
[17:24] <cfm> Slart: An apt-get update should complain if you're also hitting 64-bit packages, I think so yes.
[17:24] <jacquesdupontd> Incarus, has i told you i could go to intrepid and resolve the problem just like that but i'm here on jaunty and that's ok
[17:24] <bastidrazor> ubuntunewbie, ls -lh
[17:24] <Threetimes> did someone talk to me the last 2 minutes?
[17:24] <apparle> please diffrentiate performance wise on wubi and normal install
[17:24] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, yeah, downgrading would fix that (and dont forget the kernel update)
[17:25] <cfm> Slart: Oh, and also running Hardy I guess!
[17:25] <Slart> Threetimes: 18:22 < jacquesdupontd> thx for trying to help Threetimes  btw
[17:25] <Slart> cfm: ahh.. I'm on jaunty.. perhaps that's why I don't get any errors =)
[17:26] <cfm> Slart: Yes, not seeing problems on Dapper either.  Unfortunately as this is my first Hardy 64-bit machine, I can't cross-confirm elsewhere!
[17:26] <Threetimes> Slart: Thanks for reposting. jacquesdupontd: Thanks for Thanking :D
[17:26] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor : thanks but I mean I wanted to have both readable and non-readable .If I didn't put -h , it'll show the size in byte .I wanted both
[17:26] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor : is it possible ?
[17:26] <Slart> !hardy
[17:27] <bastidrazor> ubuntunewbie, not that i know of
[17:27] <Incarus> oh dude, i thought my system made an update, but the update window was hanging the whole time
[17:27] <jacquesdupontd> no problem
[17:27] <jacquesdupontd> girl is here :)*
[17:27] <jacquesdupontd> but i'm staying a bit
[17:28] <Slart> cfm: hang on.. I've got a vm with hardy on it
[17:28] <Guest99634jon> does anybody know how to use remote desktop for ubuntu linux 9.04
[17:28] <Guest99634jon> i hellp a real person to help me out
[17:29] <Incarus> jacquesdupontd, didnt talk with you, i talked with myself XD
[17:29] <Incarus> <<i hellp a real person to help me out>> what does that mean?
[17:29] <bastidrazor> cfm, 32bit hardy on one of my boxes.. no apt-get update issues
[17:30] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[17:30] <Slart> cfm: mm.. no errors on my 32bit hardy install.. don't have a 64bit one
[17:30] <Guest99634jon> i said i need a person who know about ubuntu linux 9.04 remote desktop .can yall plese help me out
[17:30] <cfm> bastidrazor/Slart: That's good news anyway!  Means the hardy mirrors aren't completely broken I guess, just an error with the 64-bit package lists.
[17:30] <ShapeShifter499> anyone here willing to help edit a windows registry so I can use windows again side-by-side with ubuntu?
[17:31] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: any ideas why that weird thing with the partition could happened?
[17:31] <simon389> Help please: How do I edit my xorg.conf?
[17:31] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, i think dual boot have nothing to do with the windows registry
[17:32] <Incarus> simon389, "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[17:32] <PauloTRX_> does anybody know wheres the "break lines" config of the gnome console?
[17:32] <PauloTRX_> does anybody know wheres the "break lines" config of the gnome console?
[17:32] <bastidrazor> Incarus, simon389 gksudo gedit .. use gksudo with all graphical applications
[17:32] <ShapeShifter499> no I had copied windows with dd to a usb drive and I need to edit the registry so I can run windows off the usb drive
[17:32] <Incarus> bastidrazor, right, gksu, sry
[17:32] <moltenbobcat> Guest99634jon: are you trying to connect to a windows machine?
[17:33] <Incarus> bastidrazor, i just use vim ;-)
[17:33] <PauloTRX_> does anybody know wheres the "break lines" config of the gnome console?
[17:33] <cfm> Incarus: good man :-)
[17:33] <simon389> Help again, How do I see if my ATI driver is opensource or proprietary?
[17:34] <Leoneof> hi hi hi ^_^
[17:34] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor : thanks for tell :)
[17:34] <ShapeShifter499> can't someone help adding a reg file hack to a registry I need to edit?
[17:35] <bastidrazor> ubuntunewbie, good luck
[17:35] <Leoneof> <~~~~~~newbie
[17:35] <Incarus> cfm, graphical is too complicated for me ;-)
[17:35] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor : thank you , will learn more on ubuntu .
[17:36] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor : I had another question wanted to ask
[17:36] <Leoneof> i have Vista, and i want to install ubuntu in another partition, but need to have Dual boot, any idea
[17:36] <ubuntunewbie> bastidrazor : hope you wouldn't mind .
[17:36] <Threetimes> world_ate_jimmy: as i said: anything! The people at #windows can help you further (i know you've been there already).
[17:36] <Incarus> PauloTRX_, if you mean a terminal emulator then its in the settings of that
[17:36] <bastidrazor> ubuntunewbie, ask the channel, if i know the answer i'll respond.
[17:36] <ShapeShifter499> :'(
[17:36] <fat0ss> any body tell me how to install freeglut in ubuntu
[17:36] <ShapeShifter499> :'(
[17:37] <oskar-> Leoneof:  dual boot is the default option, if you install ubuntu after windows
[17:37] <Guest99634jon> hello anybody here
[17:37] <lethal_> hey guy listen i installed ubunutu jaunty jackalope with wubi every thing was going fast till i asssociate it with compiz last time i just installed it so i reinstalled it basically when i boot as soon as the bar fills ithe screen  becoomes wierd with coloured lines and something that resembles static
[17:37] <Incarus> Leoneof, install a partition software, resize old one, and boot in an ubuntu installation cd
[17:37] <ElecTroNiKs> Anyone know why my 4 gig pen drive wont auto mount?
[17:37] <ShapeShifter499> can't someone help.......edit.......my..........registry.........plz.............????............. :'( ..............plz?
[17:37] <world_ate_jimmy> Threetimes: ok... well, after all the stuff get copied, what should be the next step in trying to recover the partition? there should be data somewhere, as the places menu could recover the partition names and mount 'em
[17:37] <lukaszn> Witam
[17:37] <Leoneof> C:\Windows Vista , and D:\Ubuntu , no problem?
[17:37] <Guest99634jon> i am a x-user
[17:38] <Incarus> ElecTroNiKs, there is no auto mount of pen drives, so its not a bug
[17:38] <fat0ss>  any body tell me how to install freeglut in ubuntu ?????
[17:38] <lukaszn> HELLO
[17:38] <Guest99634jon> i am a x-user of windoes
[17:38] <oskar-> Leoneof:  but be your backup is up-to-date before installation
[17:38] <PauloTRX_> Incarus: i mean the gnome terminal
[17:38] <ubuntunewbie> About external hard disk , I had an WD passport 2.5 Hard disk, using window xp , right the safe remove USB icon , the WD passport 2.5 hard disk light will disable and light off.But in ubuntu ,after I click unmount , the light stil stay there.Even I waited 30 min lights still on.
[17:38] <Guest99634jon> i am now a ubuntu linux 9.04 user
[17:38] <Leoneof> oskare-, i see ^_^
[17:39] <Incarus> PauloTRX_, where should be a menu bar i think
[17:39] <PauloTRX_> Incarus: there is no config for "line break"
[17:39] <Leoneof> oskar- * :p
[17:39] <fat0ss> freeglut ..?
[17:39] <oskar-> Leoneof:  ubuntu does not have these strange drive letters. you will be able to access the windows data from ubuntu, but windows does not know of other file systems than the ms ones
[17:39] <Incarus> PauloTRX_, oh..
[17:39] <Guest99634jon> I NEED HELP PLESE
[17:39] <PauloTRX_> Incarus: it breaks the line by default, i wondering if it can be overriden
[17:39] <Guest99634jon> I HAVE TOULD YALL WHAT I NEED HELP ON
[17:40] <Leoneof> oskar- , file system for windows is NTFS , how about ubuntu?
[17:40] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, No need for editing the windows registry for installing ubuntu
[17:40] <oskar-> Leoneof:  ubuntu uses ext3 or ext4 but also others are possible
[17:40] <fat0ss> any body hear me ..?? please help me to install free glut in Ubuntu ?
[17:40] <tsrk> Guest15762, don't yell, and we don't necessarily know what you need help on.
[17:41] <tsrk> Guest99634jon,, don't yell, and we don't necessarily know what you need help on.
[17:41] <ShapeShifter499> I need to boot windows both in a Vbox and as a main os
[17:41] <Leoneof> oskar-, but ubuntu not work with NTFS?
[17:41] <oskar-> Guest99634jon:  what is you question?
[17:41] <Incarus> PauloTRX_, hm, dont know
[17:41] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, then install windows, and install vbox on windows
[17:41] <ShapeShifter499> I don't have any disks, just a backup
[17:42] <tsrk> ShapeShifter499, you want the same windows partition bootable on hardware and on vbox?
[17:42] <Incarus> Leoneof, i think it should work
[17:42] <Guest99634jon> i need to know how to use remote desktop on ubuntu linux
[17:42] <Guest99634jon> 9.04
[17:42] <lethal_> is my question to long or something
[17:42] <ShapeShifter499> If I just apply a registry hack than I'd be home free
[17:42] <oskar-> Leoneof:  ubuntu can read and write from/to ntfs. but for special system files the root partition has to be in an other format
[17:42] <fat0ss> glut opengl in ubuntu ?
[17:42] <fat0ss> plz help
[17:42] <Leoneof> oskar-, thank you, i understand it now ^_^
[17:43] <Incarus> lethal_, no, but if nobody answers, nobody know
[17:43] <ShapeShifter499> I've been trying to edit the registry for too long now
[17:43] <lethal_> sad
[17:43] <tsrk> ShapeShifter499, you want to edit the windows registry from ubuntu?
[17:43] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, why you dont use "regedit" in windows?
[17:43] <Guest99634jon> i need to get on my desktop  to my laptop
[17:43] <lethal_> for me that is
[17:43] <ShapeShifter499> yea I all ready tried though
[17:43] <Incarus> fat0ss, pls ask a full question
[17:44] <tsrk> Guest15762, install a VNC server on the remote machine
[17:44] <Leoneof> <~~~~~~~~~~~so exciting to install and use Ubuntu
[17:44] <tsrk> Guest99634jon, ^^
[17:44] <Incarus> lethal_, then ask again
[17:45] <Guest99634jon> yes
[17:45] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, regedit should work
[17:46] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: cant get it to work under wine
[17:46] <lethal_> to make it short i install some compiz stuff then when i boot the screen goes wierd andnothings vissible just wierd after the monitor turns itself on and off a feww times ubuntu becomes vaguely visible
[17:46] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, are u using vbox under ubuntu?
[17:47] <lethal_> no
[17:47] <lethal_> oh
[17:47] <Incarus> XD
[17:47] <Stanley_> I was dualbooting with winXP and ubuntu, and dropped in the windows cd to create a blank partition and now i'm getting "Error loading operating system"
[17:47] <Stanley_>  http://pastebin.com/m5b257a17 Thats what was showing up before, and after I created the new partition it turned to http://pastebin.com/m65e991f9
[17:47] <nope> Stanley_: guess you must reinstall grub
[17:47] <nope> looks like you destroyed your mbr
[17:48] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: I can't boot win xp at all until I add a registry hack to it
[17:48] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, pls take a look at http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/
[17:48] <Stanley_> nope: how can I do that?
[17:48] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, "Offline NT pw & reg-editor"
[17:49] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: tried that all ready too
[17:49] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, didnt work?
[17:50] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: well for one I'm not sure how I'm adding the hack is right, and its getting confusing
[17:50] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Registry#Manual_editing
[17:50] <PauloTRX_> i need to output lines not to be break in the terminal... does anybody know how to do this?
[17:50] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, thats the only software you can use
[17:51] <lethal_> ok how do get files from 9.04 installed via wubi without running ubuntu
[17:51] <opengyan11> ok ! so i have decided to install 9.04 on my laptop..
[17:51] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, forget wine, dude, that wont work
[17:51] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: wouldn't it be easier if someone used a window os to edit?
[17:52] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, sure
[17:52] <opengyan11> from Cd...i still remember problems i had last time ...
[17:52] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, why you dont edit it in windows with regedit?
[17:52] <opengyan11> just need to know how to give partitions
[17:52] <Incarus> opengyan11, give partitions WHAT?
[17:52] <opengyan11> i already have windows on my laptop + ubuntu 7.10..
[17:52] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: I don't have a boot able windows at the moment
[17:53] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, oh
[17:53] <opengyan11> at instalation process...we have to mention abt primary/secondady/ext/swp
[17:53] <Incarus> yes, and?
[17:53] <opengyan11> and i wont feel confidence in that
[17:53] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: and adding the hack would make my windows boot able again
[17:53] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, reinstall windows (ß)
[17:53] <Incarus> *(?)
[17:54] <opengyan11> so looking for some pictorial tutorial (captured installation images)
[17:54] <blackxored> hello everybody, I'm having problems with moving a virtual machine to a physical one, any clues about a clean way to do this V2P stuff?
[17:54] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, wine doesnt work. you could edit the registry files manually or use that software
[17:55] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: can't, I accentually deleted the recovery partition I had on my acer aspire one
[17:55] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, ?
[17:55] <Incarus> actually i dont really understand your problem
[17:57] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: vmware has a utility called vmware converter that is free
[17:57] <Incarus> ShapeShifter499, but i have to go now, bye
[17:57] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: but it of course converts it into a .vmdk file which shouldn't be an issue unless you aren't using vmware
[17:57] <lethal_> goodbye ubuntu
[17:58] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: ok heres my problem, I want a windows + ubuntu environment, but I have no way of doing that because I have no recovery partition on my acer aspire one, I do have a dd backup of my windows partition before I put ubuntu, now if I add a registry hack to the backed up windows than it will make windows boot able from the usb drive I backed it up to
[17:58] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, what I actually meant was Virtual to Physical
[17:59] <mazda01> i have no sound in totem, can someone help please. i am NOT using pulseaudio
[17:59] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, actually, I'm trying a vdi mounter for virtual box and maybe remastersys by now, I was seeking for other ways
[18:00] <grela> google
[18:00] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: the hack I'm talking about is near the bottom of this page
[18:00] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: I see you could use regular imaging software
[18:00] <moltenbobcat> like clonezilla
[18:00] <moltenbobcat> and dump it to a network location
[18:00] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314082
[18:01] <moltenbobcat> restore from that image on the physical machine
[18:01] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, ok, let me try to follow you and explain myself better
[18:02] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, I normally set up virtual appliance using turnkey-core as a basis, then I install my custom software and deploy it, but at work I need to make them on physical machines. I'm running virtualbox-ose, on a ubuntu host
[18:03] <gregre> where can i find my htdocs folder when i install apache2?
[18:03] <DeannaT2> Ijoin #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:03] <erxin> yo, i want to write a simple program, which will calculate the numeric value of a word, example, A=1 B=2 C=3,etc FOX=666. Whic developing language is the easiest ?
[18:03] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: ok, so grab an iso of some linux based drive imaging software and set that as the iso associated with the guest in virtualbox boot of of that mount some type of network share or maybe you could even use a usb drive
[18:03] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: then image to that network location... then you have an image file that you can then restore to a physical machine
[18:05] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, ok, actually there's no need for usb drivers, I've setup NAT, remember it was network-based appliances, sorry not to mention, I'm a netadmin, so actually I need to use a "imaging" software, isn't dd just good enough? recommendations?
[18:06] <gregre> where can i find my htdocs folder when i install apache2?
[18:06] <ashka> /var/www
[18:06] <moltenbobcat> blackxored:  yeah dd will work fine, wasn't sure if these were windows guests or not.  If that was the case then dd could be an issue.  If it's all linux then you should be good
[18:07] <ShapeShifter499> Incarus: so you know what I can or could do?
[18:07] <j2daosh> !wireless > j2daosh
[18:07] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: clonezilla will compress aucomatically
[18:07] <moltenbobcat> dd will be a raw image and take up more space
[18:07] <moltenbobcat> you could compress it after the fact of course
[18:07] <jake__> Hiya folks, I'm having a GRUB error 17 problem is there anyone that can assist?
[18:08] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, ok I'll give it a try I think, how to restore it, then?
[18:08] <j2daosh> when i boot into ubuntu now (after upgrading from 8.10 -> 9.04), i dont get a network manager icon, where did this go?
[18:09] <MrPiracy> i have both KDE and GNOME installed, how can i set AWN to run only on GNOME?
[18:09] <coz_> j2daosh, mm it should be there hold on
[18:09] <Zabadda> does anyone know how to boot from an ESATA HDD?
[18:09] <MrPiracy> better yet, do you guys know of a dock better than awn?
[18:09] <Guest99634jon> i am trying to remote desktop to my laptop but it is not working
[18:09] <MrPiracy> Zabadda: there should be an option in ur bios
[18:09] <j2daosh> if i run it manually from a console, i get the icon for it but everything is unmanaged
[18:10] <Zabadda> i cant see anything
[18:10] <Zabadda> nothing that is listed as ESATA at lease
[18:10] <Guest99634jon> can anybody help me out
[18:10] <MrPiracy> Zabadda: then ur bios can't do it
[18:10] <Zabadda> might there be a BIOS update?
[18:11] <Zabadda> i mean why would the laptop have an ESATA if i cant boot from it
[18:11] <moltenbobcat> blackxored: same deal just boot a physical clonezilla livecd on the physical box
[18:11] <MrPiracy> Zabadda: if so, you'll find it in ur mother board's website
[18:11] <moltenbobcat> and make sure you have the images that it created available
[18:11] <coz_> j2daosh,  open up synaptic hit search   type in network-manager   try reinstalling it
[18:11] <Guest99634jon> does anybody know how to work the remote desktop
[18:11] <j2daosh> cant reinstall because i cant connect to anything
[18:12] <Guest99634jon> on ubuntu linux9.04
[18:12] <jake__> Anyone have experience with GRUB error 17 problems?
[18:12] <j2daosh> even when i have a wired connection it doesn't pick up the internet
[18:12] <grawity> j2daosh: how about using another computer to download the packages?
[18:12] <blackxored> moltenbobcat, fine then ggl in it
[18:12] <coz_> j2daosh,  are you on windows righ tnow?
[18:12] <grawity> j2daosh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for example, or http://archives.ubuntu.com/ (this needs some browsing to find the files).
[18:13] <Donedeez> does anyone know why when downloading updates and whatnot through the terminal, it starts fast then gets really slow...?
[18:13] <j2daosh> jake__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=grub+error+17
[18:13] <j2daosh> coz, yeah im on a windows PC
[18:13] <j2daosh> my ubuntu laptop is next to me
[18:13] <grawity> j2daosh: LMGTFY, JFGI, RTFM and similar things are not welcomed on this channel.
[18:13] <hendrikb> hello, any plans to update the openssh version of 9.04 ? or is OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5ubuntu1, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 patched against the exploit?
[18:14] <grawity> hendrikb: If it had a security issue, there would already be a security update.
[18:14] <j2daosh> grawity: if you click the link, it searchs for him. the first link concerns his problem
[18:14] <grawity> j2daosh: I'm well aware of what http://lmgtfy.com/ does.
[18:14] <hendrikb> grawity: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2009-July/069752.html
[18:14] <hendrikb> its <= openssh 5.2
[18:14] <Donedeez> can anyone help me with download speeds in the ubuntu terminal?
[18:14] <LiCeT> hi all
[18:15] <LiCeT> hi all
[18:15] <grawity> Hi LiCeT.
[18:15] <walider> hi all
[18:15] <LiCeT> hi grawity
[18:16] <walider> hello all the world
[18:16] <meiki2000> Hello. My Ubuntu 9.04 installation told me it needed to check my drive after 20 boots and did so, stopped after 16% and exited on me into a command prompt of root. fsck tells me my harddisk is defective, and i wonder, is there anyway to force it to reboot anyway?
[18:17] <j2daosh> meiki2000: the power button works really well at reboots
[18:17] <meiki2000> thanks j2daosh but the problem is that at restart ubuntu tells me that the last shutdown was unclean and it restarts the drive scan after which it stops after 16%
[18:17] <meiki2000> sorry for not being clear
[18:18] <opengyan11> i guess i must have primary partion  and a swp partition right >
[18:18] <j2daosh> i dont think you can bypass that but I'm not sure
[18:18] <j2daosh> google might have your answer
[18:18] <opengyan11> if i have 3 GB ram ..how mush shd be the swp
[18:18] <CabbageWangler> Hey. My friend is trying to install Ubuntu but he gets an error when he presses install: "Error reading boot cd". can anyone help?
[18:19] <j2daosh> CabbageWangler: make a new cd
[18:19] <j2daosh> or he is using a motherboard withthe jmicron controller
[18:19] <Donedeez> anyone know why the download speed in the terminal or command line interface is really slow?
[18:20] <j2daosh> in that case, you will need to make sure that the cd rom and the hard drive are both on the same controller port
[18:20] <jrhicks__> anyone:  i can remote into my windows box from ubuntu box via "Terminal Services Client", but not with "Remote Desktop Viewer".  Port 5900 is open...
[18:20] <snape> opengyan11: with this much RAM, it doesn't matter. Just accept ubuntu default
[18:21] <CabbageWangler> j2daosh: is that the only way?
[18:21] <opengyan11> snape : ok so i have to just say abt primary partitions
[18:22] <j2daosh> or get a SATA CD-rom and a SATA hard drive...
[18:22] <snape> opengyan11: didn't get you
[18:23] <CabbageWangler> j2daosh: Thanks. he's gonna try to make a new CD. do you know what causes the problem?
[18:23] <opengyan11> i have to do manual partitioning as i already have windows installed ..so in that process
[18:23] <opengyan11> i shd enter abt primary partition
[18:23] <j2daosh> defective cd, faulty burn process... try burning at a slower speed
[18:23] <Jessicatz> I need help, I can't figure out how to cleanly stop Xorg and start it with -depth 16 parameter.
[18:25] <Jessicatz> changing the depth in the xorg.conf corrupts the display
[18:25] <Jessicatz> I'm on jaunty, btw.
[18:25] <trae> What is a good backup / recovery solution for Ubuntu?  I have a LAMP server running and I need to make sure the box can be restored and up and running in the event of system failure.
[18:26] <Slart> !backup | trae
[18:26] <x_O> Anyone run KDE over Gnome?
[18:26] <snape> opengyan11: yes that should be fine, but i suggest to take a look at the forums(ubuntuforums.org), just in case.
[18:26] <Slart> trae: for an important server I would go with something that backups the entire server.. so you just restore a disk image or similar and start again
[18:26] <j2daosh> Jessicatz: it should just be as easy as '/etc/X11/x :0 -depth 16'
[18:26] <j2daosh> : 0
[18:26] <j2daosh> but without the space
[18:27] <Jessicatz> yea I can read it okay
[18:27] <opengyan11> snape: thx
[18:27] <x_O> What is the latest KDE build?
[18:27] <x_O> 4.1 or 4.2?
[18:27] <Jessicatz> j2daosh: I don't have that 'x' binary though
[18:27] <Jessicatz> oh, uppercase, nvm
[18:27] <Pablo-linux> hola
[18:27] <trae> Slart, yeah... I like clonezilla... but that requires me to take the machine offline
[18:27] <Jessicatz> I'm going to try that, thanks
[18:27] <j2daosh> :D
[18:28] <Pablo-linux> soy nuevo en estoy alguien puede explicarme como va esto?
[18:28] <Pablo-linux> habla alguien español?
[18:28] <x_O> no one knows this i guses
[18:28] <prince_jammys> Pablo-linux: /join #ubuntu-es , es el canal espanol
[18:28] <grawity> x_O: IIRC, it's 4.2
[18:28] <Slart> trae: oh.. that's not really good.. there isn't a way to do it while it's online?
[18:28] <Pablo-linux> thanks
[18:29] <x_O> 4.2 isn't a nightly build anymore?
[18:29] <grawity> x_O: No idea (I use GNOME).  But checking KDE website would be better, I guess.
[18:30] <x_O> KDE 4.2.4
[18:30] <Leoneof> how i will use adobe products in ubuntu???
[18:30] <x_O> Hmm. Wonder if KDE has any better font rendering tools.
[18:30] <x_O> Everything is damn blurry on here.
[18:30] <Bezerk> hi
[18:30] <grawity> x_O: Does it use fontconfig?
[18:31] <x_O> Not sure what that is.
[18:31] <j2daosh> !internet > j2daosh
[18:31] <j2daosh> !wired > j2daosh
[18:31] <grawity> !bot > j2daosh
[18:32] <x_O> grawity: fontconfig?
[18:32] <DoA> What's up guys. Does anyone have a list of the different mirror for the repos? I got a VPS in China and downloading from the US repos is too slow.
[18:34] <blackxored> how can I test karmic's X on a chroot?
[18:34] <kwaa_> any idea why i cant type # in ubuntu?
[18:34] <kwaa_> ill get £ when shift 3
[18:35] <meiki2000> after some scary moments with my main computer, ubuntu has concluded that at 15.5 and 15.6 percent of my disk there are logical errors. that is great, now the machine just booted up normally. what do i need to do now? is there still an error? was it repaired? I am very confused.
[18:35] <firecrotch> kwaa_: Keyboard layout is set wrong, maybe?
[18:35] <kwaa_> sudo apt-get install language-pack sv
[18:35] <kwaa_> ops
[18:36] <kwaa_> firecrotch: Yeah, ill check that, thx
[18:36] <kwaa_> firecrotch: is that done with "apt-get" or should i change keyboard stuff?
[18:37] <trae> Slart,good question -- sorry got a call.  Perhaps there is a way to run clonezilla while the machine is in-use.  Not sure.
[18:38] <firecrotch> kwaa_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup   should do the trick
[18:38] <kwaa_> Thanks alot
[18:39] <kwaa_> how do i the ubuntu "expose"?
[18:40] <kwaa_> £
[18:41] <ftab> is there any software available for Ubuntu in which I can edit the Fla files?
[18:41] <efu>  I've startet the arpon daemon using arpon -d. However, I cant see it using ps aux|grep arp. Does this mean that it's not running?
[18:41] <pirilampu> hi all, someone has running office 2007 on wine 1.1.25?
[18:42] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[18:42] <magentar> pirilampu, i would recommend running it virtualized in virtualbox for example.
[18:42] <homer1990> hi can I update firefox 3.01 to 3.5 without using source? (auto updates not working for ffox)
[18:43] <ftab> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[18:43] <homer1990> thnx!
[18:43] <pirilampu> yes efu... if not appear in ps ax | grep arp or just ps ax | more isnt running
[18:44] <ftab> homer1990 it will not update but install a fresh copy of the firefox 3.5
[18:44] <ftab>  is there any software available for Ubuntu in which I can edit the Fla files?
[18:44] <j2daosh> ok, anyone got a page for me to look at as to why now that i did the upgrade to jaunty, i have no internet connection either wireless or wired?
[18:44] <Alvinware> How to take back the ownership/right to wright to the cd/dvd?
[18:44] <j2daosh> i see the lights flashing on the wired connection, but i get no ip address
[18:45] <ftab>  is there any software available for Ubuntu in which I can edit the Fla files?
[18:45] <erifneerg> jw, how difficult is it to setup AFP on ubuntu or should i go FreeNAS instead
[18:45] <j2daosh> my eth0 config in the /etc/network/interfaces file is auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp but its not working
[18:45] <c0wz> is there somewhere special to get support for ubuntu on laptops?
[18:45] <sergiusz> hello
[18:46] <j2daosh> c0wz: you too huh? :P
[18:46] <^cheeky> hi, how do i transfer files from my main machine to my ubuntu server , ? i have ubuntu 8.10 server edition and my my main computer ubuntu 9.04. i have installed samba in my server but what program do i used to connect to my server using samba and drop some files over in my server ?
[18:46] <Jessicatz> j2daosh: how do I cleanly shut down gdm and X then? :/
[18:46] <c0wz> the only problem i appear to have is that when i push the volume down key on my laptop the keyboard and touchpad stop working.
[18:46] <pirilampu> ei cheeky... the server not have ftp server running?
[18:46] <magentar> ^cheeky, if you are on gnome it is as simple as going to places -> connect to server...
[18:47] <magentar> you don't even really need samba when you're on linux workstations... you can simply use ssh
[18:47] <^cheeky> magentar, in my main machine i have gnome desktop not in my serer . just command line
[18:47] <j2daosh> Jessicatz: gdm stop
[18:47] <magentar> smbclient /smbmount then
[18:47] <pirilampu> you can transfer files with ftp, is more ease
[18:48] <magentar> or scp for ssh
[18:48] <Jessicatz> j2daosh: that leaves Xorg running with 100% cpu usages, is that normal?
[18:48] <Alvinware> I can't burn to the dvd, because of dvd-rom permission. How to change it? HELP!
[18:48] <^cheeky> well ultimately i am turning my server into a mediatomb server
[18:49] <pirilampu> Jessicatz, you have Compiz/XGL ?
[18:49] <^cheeky> magentar, what port do i used to connect to my machine if i have samba server installed under places.> connect to server ?
[18:49] <Jessicatz> yes but not active
[18:50] <dewdude> ^cheeky, how are you accessing the share that you need to specify a port?
[18:50] <pirilampu> humm maybe is some applet doing it...
[18:50] <magentar> select "windows share"
[18:50] <Jessicatz> when I kill Xorg forcefully, I get a kernel panic
[18:50] <Jessicatz> granted, that might be because I'm using a beta release.
[18:50] <pirilampu> wow! ubuntu 9.04?
[18:50] <dewdude> Jessicatz, you got a screensaver kicking on?
[18:51] <pauliuspa> Hi
[18:51] <j2daosh> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-stop-xorg-server/
[18:51] <renate> heyho
[18:51] <Jessicatz> dewdude: I doubt it
[18:51] <eager_geek> hello all
[18:51] <biopyte> hi. could you recommend a tool that monitors my network traffic, so I can follow the total MB of up- and download at the end of the day (week, month)?
[18:51] <magentar> ^cheeky, you can also enter smb://user@host/share in nautilus
[18:51] <boroda_> hi )
[18:52] <Jessicatz> j2daosh: I googled that and tried, that's when Xorg runs at 100%
[18:52] <qe2eqe> I have two gfx cards and Xrandr isn't detecting the other one - though X -configure detects the model number of the monitor plugged into it
[18:52] <j2daosh> how many X's do you have running?
[18:52] <renate> is there a way to block internet access for just some processes?
[18:52] <Jessicatz> j2daosh: only one, I hope.
[18:52] <^cheeky> magentar, ok .. but i tried it said i cant mount the share .. how do i make a file in command line in my server the samba share ?
[18:52] <renate> i have to use the realplayer for some weeks and i want to forbid it to connect to the internet.
[18:52] <pauliuspa> my wifi connection is interupting every 3-5 minutes on eee netbook, is this ubuntu problem or something else?
[18:52] <pirilampu> what is exactly the name of the proccess with 100%?
[18:53] <dewdude> pauliuspa, what's your wifi signal like?
[18:53] <Jessicatz> pirilampu: Xorg, user root
[18:53] <Jessicatz> that's how it shows in top
[18:53] <boroda_> Russian are?
[18:53] <c0wz_> ok my keyboard problem is in gnome. i was able to restart gdm without rebooting and everything is golden again
[18:53] <magentar> ^cheeky, don't know, read "man smbclient" etc.
[18:53] <pirilampu> puliuspa, maybe is the driver
[18:53] <^cheeky> magentar, ok thank you
[18:53] <Jessicatz> pirilampu: "/usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7" is how ps aux shows it
[18:54] <pauliuspa> dewdude: 54% at the moment but the same problems persists with 90%
[18:54] <j2daosh> that looks like 2 running
[18:54] <j2daosh> oh nevermind
[18:54] <j2daosh> i was thinking :1 and :0
[18:54] <j2daosh> :P
[18:54] <cheers_> anyone know how to format a truecrypt volume to ext4 after it has been created with 'no format' option?
[18:54] <pirilampu> and your graphic board is configurated correctly?
[18:55] <pirilampu> glxgears running good?
[18:55] <arianit> how can I broadcast my screen on ustream.tv live
[18:55] <Jessicatz> I guess so? closed drivers active, 3d acceleration working fine
[18:56] <iNTEX> hello i have problem
[18:56] <trae> anyone know how to get rdesktop to launch @ boot?  As it is now, you can only access the machine once someone has logged in (unless you ssh in)
[18:56] <trae> I need to know how to gain access for when the display manager launches
[18:56] <Jessicatz> ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X or gdm, right? where can I put arguments to it?
[18:56] <iNTEX> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lis                                        ts/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_intrepid_free_binary-i386_Packages)
[18:56] <iNTEX> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt                                        /lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_intrepid_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
[18:56] <iNTEX> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[18:56] <FloodBot3> iNTEX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <pirilampu> well i dont know... isnt normal... with the live CD occurs it?
[18:56] <deagleson> I dont know if this is the right place to ask this, but i installed Ubuntu 9.04 x64 and i got a ATI Mobility Radeon X1600. Will i get faster 3D if i change to RadeonHD drivers?
[18:56] <Nehyx> !paste | iNTEX
[18:57] <pirilampu> I think is your driver... or a bug in your beta version
[18:57] <Jessicatz> pirilampu: I didn't try setting a different bitdepth on the live CD
[18:58] <Jessicatz> in last ubuntu versions, color depth was selectabe in the display property dialgo :<
[18:58] <iNTEX> waht i add this for codecs thin i use apt-get update
[18:58] <pirilampu> you saw this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316924
[18:58] <iNTEX> then i  have problem
[18:58] <pw-toxic> hi, i have installed the proprietary AMD ATI chipset drivers for 3200HD and now there are some strange sound drivers too! but i dont use the onboard sound, and now when i push the volume up button, nothing changes
[18:58] <pw-toxic> how can i completley remove those drivers?
[18:59] <deagleson> I made a thread on Ubuntu forums Link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7647285#post7647285 need some smart linux users to help me out. xD
[18:59] <pw-toxic> When i open the volume control, there is the HD ATI SB (Alsa mixer).. i want to remove this
[18:59] <Jessicatz> pirilampu: no, but I don't really care for the Xorg cputime, since that's only when gdm isnt running (which is not normally the case)
[19:00] <Jessicatz> pirilampu: atm I just want to know how to cleanly stop gdm and Xorg.
[19:00] <linduxed> ive got a somewhere around 20-25 directories, organized as both top level and second level directories. these directories need to be accessed by somewhere around 30 different users, all with different sets of rights. currently the system is organized by having groups called Gr1-Gr10, with directories being owned according to needs (users are stuffed into proper groups).
[19:00] <linduxed> the thing is though that this is hard to maintain and does make a mess when you have to figure out what group does what (ive got a chart but it does get irritating). Is there a different way to do things that people would recomend? can one make groups of groups or something?
[19:00] <Jessicatz> which became increasingly difficult it seems.
[19:01] <micha_> huhuz na alle wieder klar im kopf*fg
[19:01] <pirilampu> well you can start em command line mode... and gdm and xorg isnt started
[19:01] <^Alita> hi to all
[19:01] <chris__> hi, when I unhibernated my laptop, the usb thing wasn't getting any power. How do I restart usb, so I can use the usb mouse? Before I upgraded, there used to be a usbcore I needed to restart, but now modprobe doesn't list a usbcore
[19:01] <Jessicatz> how do I do that?
[19:01] <deagleson> Hi
[19:01] <Slart> linduxed: doesn't SELinux come with acl's?
[19:01] <linduxed> Slart: acl?
[19:02] <Slart> linduxed: access control lists.. who is allowed to do what to each directory and file.. kind of like the windows system
[19:03] <grawity> Slart, linduxed: Actually, Linux/ext3 does support ACLs. But I don't think that depends on SElinux.
[19:03] <^Alita> i'm in trouble with a hamlet HNW254CI: when i protect the wi-fi connection with wpa it stops the connection. on my laptop, that use a HNW254g it works fine with the same configuration
[19:03] <deagleson> I made a thread on Ubuntu forums regarding ATI x1600 and RadeonHD Link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7647285#post7647285 need some smart linux users to help me out. xD
[19:03] <grawity> (It should be the filesystem's responsibility anyway.)
[19:03] <Slart> grawity: ah, nice. Thanks
[19:03] <linduxed> Slart: will check that out
[19:04] <ProfOak> http://i30.tinypic.com/2i21kp5.jpg Does anyone know how to get the handles of this panel transparent?
[19:05] <grawity> Slart, linduxed: Take a look at the 'acl' package.
[19:05] <pirilampu> the last version of the ubuntu not have the /etc/inittab... is diferent... i dont know... i am googling for find out a answer for you
[19:05] <Slart> !info acl
[19:05] <mattgyver> How can i log out of gnome to a terminal session?
[19:05] <Donedeez> can anyone help with bottlenecking download speeds in the ubuntu terminal?
[19:06] <Guest99634jon> does anybody know anything about networking
[19:06] <Slart> mattgyver: gnome-session --logout or something like that
[19:06] <mattgyver> Slart, wont that just tame me to gdm?
[19:06] <Guest99634jon> i need help
[19:06] <mattgyver> Guest99634jon, what are you trying to do?
[19:06] <mattgyver> Donedeez, do you just want to monitor your traffic?
[19:06] <Slart> mattgyver: yes.. isn't that what you want?
[19:06] <v4vijayakumar> hi, anyone has any issues with language-selector and language-selector-common automatic package update ?! I even tried to remove it through synaptic pm, but I couldn't..
[19:07] <grawity> mattgyver: You can switch to a different virtual console - Ctrl-Alt-F1 - Ctrl-Alt-F6 will give you terminals, Ctrl-Alt-F7 is the GUI.
[19:07] <mattgyver> Slart, i want to logout of gnome and go back to the terminal
[19:07] <Guest99634jon> remote desktop connet
[19:07] <Slart> mattgyver: oh.. *to* a terminal .. nevermind.. try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[19:07] <Guest99634jon> da
[19:07] <Donedeez> mattgyver: no... using apt-get install command downloads fast at first, but then slows down to almost nothing... trying to fix it
[19:07] <sd32> I wonder why they took the release data off the ubuntu wikipedia page?
[19:07] <Roland> how do i enable hdmi out on Intel GMA4500MHD ?  is there a GUI application for that?
[19:07] <mattgyver> slart, thanks :D
[19:07] <Slart> mattgyver: you're welcome
[19:07] <Guest99634jon> it's not working
[19:08] <mattgyver> Guest99634jon, are you trying to connect to a windows machine or ubuntu? via rdp, xdmpc, or vnc?
[19:08] <Donedeez> when using apt-get install command... it downloads fast at first but then slows down to almost nothing. can anyone help me with this?
[19:08] <mattgyver> donedeez, you might want to take a look at your running processes and see if you have something hung
[19:09] <Donedeez> mayygyver: i don't believe so... although how woudl i check it? im also runnin off of a virtual machine if that woudl make any difference
[19:09] <mattgyver> donedeez, i would just look at the output of tcpdump
[19:10] <mattgyver> or install iftop, its much easier to read
[19:10] <pw-toxic> can someone please tell me how i can remove audio drivers?
[19:10] <Donedeez> it's hard to install, because of the slwo download speed which i am trying to fix.
[19:10] <Donedeez> im using CLS not gui
[19:10] <pw-toxic> i want to remove HD ATI SB alsa drivers because they make my volume up and down keys not to work
[19:10] <Guest99634jon> plese just help me
[19:10] <Pici> !patience
[19:10] <sd32> how do we know when the next release is coming out?
[19:11] <losher> mattgyver: Jessicatz: I routinely 'mv /usr/sbin/gdm /usr/sbin/gdm.bak'. This lets me login via to a terminal session. I then start gnome by typing 'startx'. On exit, it goes back to the terminal session. Does this help?
[19:11] <mattgyver> Donedeez, both are cli, but just monitor tcpdump -i (interface)
[19:11] <Pici> sd32: Releases come out every 6 months.
[19:11] <Pici> !9.10 | sd32
[19:11] <dakarn> pw-toxic, you can remove alsa from package manager
[19:11] <sd32> Pici, and when is that?
[19:11] <Jessicatz> losher: thanks for the input
[19:11] <Guest99634jon> i do feel ignored
[19:11] <sd32> Pici, thanks
[19:11] <mattgyver> losher, thanks
[19:11] <Guest99634jon> no help
[19:11] <grawity> Guest99634jon: Because you have not told us the exact problem.
[19:11] <Guest99634jon> i do to
[19:11] <Pici> Guest99634jon: People have asked you questions and you havent responded to them.
[19:11] <Pici> !who | Guest99634jon
[19:11] <mattgyver> Guest99634jon, you didnt answer my question
[19:11] <pw-toxic> dakarn, i dont want to remove alsa.. i only want to remove the HD ATI SB alsa mixer
[19:11] <Guest99634jon> i did to
[19:11] <^Alita> i'm in trouble with a hamlet HNW254CI: when i protect the wi-fi connection with wpa it stops the connection. on my laptop, that use a HNW254g it works fine with the same configuration
[19:12] <v4vijayakumar> (2) hi, anyone has any issues with language-selector and language-selector-common automatic package update ?! I even tried to remove it through synaptic pm, but I couldn't..
[19:12] <Donedeez> mattgyver: how woudl i use tcp dump....?
[19:12] <pw-toxic> dakarn, when i open the volume control i can choose between many devices.. for example Creative X-FI (Alsa mixer) and HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer), and i want the HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer) to be removed because it blocks my volume up and down keyys
[19:12] <pw-toxic> which are very important for me
[19:12] <Guest99634jon> i have had outher people from here to help me try to do remote desktop
[19:13] <Guest99634jon> no one seem to know anything
[19:13] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Guest99634jon
[19:13] <timo1> Guest99634jon:  Vista makes it so easy :)
[19:13] <darkblue_B> Q. I want to allow a new person to ssh in to my computer.. I have ssh setup to allow login only with a publickey.. I placed an "authorized keys" file in the .ssh fldr of the new account, but the person cannot login.. do I have to enable something else somehwere?
[19:14] <ortsvorsteher> darkblue_B: did you put the key in an authorized_key file?
[19:15] <darkblue_B> yes - he sent me his public key and I put that into /home/guest/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:15] <darkblue_B> there was no .ssh dir there before so I made it
[19:15] <ortsvorsteher> darkblue_B: and he comes as user "guest" ?
[19:15] <Klavier> how can i restart a process with PS command?
[19:16] <ortsvorsteher> darkblue_B: check directory and file permissions on /home/guest/.ssh and whats in .ssh...
[19:16] <lstarnes> Kyrottimus: ps is not used for restarting processes
[19:16] <lstarnes> Kyrottimus: you'll have to kill the process then start another process of the same program
[19:16] <Klavier> lstarnes: i can do it on freebsd like: ps -HUP pidnum
[19:16] <pw-toxic> dakarn, any idea?
[19:16] <grawity> Klavier: It's 'kill', not 'ps'.
[19:16] <grawity> Klavier: Even on BSD, it's 'kill'.
[19:17] <losher> darkblue_B: have him do 'ssh -v' on his end and see what it says. Also, the permissions on the .ssh directory you made are important. I think it has to be rwx by owner only.
[19:17] <Klavier> yes it s kill
[19:17] <Klavier> sorry
[19:17] <grawity> Klavier: -HUP also doesn't restart anything -- it's just that daemons usually interpret it as "Please reload your configuration".
[19:17] <darkblue_B> ok
[19:17] <darkblue_B> checking
[19:18] <Gnimsh> hey ubuntu
[19:18] <DysonReturns> greets guys, on a clean install: when i go `crontab -l` , it returns "no crontab for dyson"
[19:18] <cyberfux> Hello all
[19:18] <ortsvorsteher> DysonReturns: at first you have to create a crontab ;)
[19:19] <yomosoft> Hello
[19:19] <DysonReturns> how (and where is a good place) to i setup a crontab file for my user
[19:19] <lstarnes> DysonReturns: you can do that using crontab -e
[19:19] <Gnimsh> I'm running Jaunty right now, and hvae skype installed. Whenever I start up, skype runs automatically
[19:19] <DysonReturns> crontab -e shows that i'm editing a file in /tmp/
[19:19] <Gnimsh> its not in my startup sessions at all
[19:19] <lstarnes> DysonReturns: when you save, that will be moved to your crontab
[19:19] <DysonReturns> orly
[19:19] <lstarnes> DysonReturns: also, see 'man crontab' and 'man 5 crontab'
[19:19] <lstarnes> DysonReturns: yes
[19:20] <progre55> hi people! dont you guys know why while them panel-menu is dropped down, FN + printscreen doesnt work?
[19:20] <frak_> hi i'm getting this error when I try to apt-get update
[19:20] <frak_> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5EB2EDFE1FCB21DB
[19:20] <lstarnes> DysonReturns: it's first made in /tmp so that it doesn't overrwrite the original until you save
[19:20] <Jessicatz> Evidently, the fglrx driver does not support 16bit color depth. thanks for the help
[19:20] <losher> DysonReturns: that's normal: it's just the temporary edit copy. When you exit the editor, the final version will be copied to /var/spool/cron/crontabs...
[19:20] <hbsnam_> is ist possible that a install cd burnt at 48 rpm will not run properly for install on an older, slower cd drive on a lapto?
[19:21] <progre55> frak_: one of the sources in your apt menu is not authorized
[19:21] <progre55> frak_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:21] <lstarnes> frak_: you will need to download that key and load it with apt-key
[19:21] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:22] <Jessicatz> hbsnam_: I've heard things like that, but can't prove it
[19:22] <darkblue_B> losher ortsvorsteher  I did have a mistake.. I dint change the perms of /home/guest/.ssh
[19:22] <losher> hbsnam_: it's very possible. Faster burns are usually lower quality. Also, some cds are less compatible with some brands of reader. Try checking the md5sum of the burnt cd. And/or reburn at 4x. Finally, try a different brand of CD...
[19:22] <darkblue_B> but I have corrected that, and the login has failed again
[19:23] <hittt> hbsnam_ : i dont think so, but it may dont write it good enough. so it may become useless, i use x8
[19:23] <nightrid3r> hbsnam_: a cd written at a high speed might be unreadable by older drives, try burning at 4X, it burns "deeper" and makes it easyer for very old drives to read
[19:23] <hbsnam_> thanks
[19:23] <darkblue_B> .ssh  is drwx------ guest guest
[19:23] <losher> darkblue_B: can you paste the output from 'ssh -v' from the client?
[19:23] <haanuj> how to hide a folder
[19:24] <losher> haanuj: hide it from whom?
[19:24] <darkblue_B> losher yes  http://paste.debian.net/42231/
[19:24] <haanuj> my brother
[19:24] <sd32> why did they pull all the future release data off the wikipedia page?
[19:25] <arand> In /dev/ are all ownerships root:root ??
[19:25] <haanuj> tell me how to hide a file/folder ????
[19:25] <lstarnes> arand: not for all devices
[19:25] <lstarnes> haanuj: you don't technically hide folders/files
[19:25] <haanuj> why ???
[19:26] <Striking7> Hey all - I have a VPS with Ubuntu 8.04 server edition on it
[19:26] <lstarnes> haanuj: mosy file browsers don't list files or directories that start with a .
[19:26] <Striking7> it doesn't appear to have the crontab binary
[19:26] <lstarnes> *most
[19:26] <Striking7> it can't find crontab at least
[19:26] <borsha> hi
[19:26] <Striking7> Is there a package I need to install to get crontab?
[19:26] <eager_geek> to hide folder, precede it's name with a dot (.)
[19:26] <chechov> others channels ubuntu in spanish?
[19:26] <lstarnes> haanuj: although there's usually a setting to allow showing of "hidden" folders/files
[19:26] <lstarnes> chechov: #ubuntu-es
[19:26] <ashka> Striking7, normally not
[19:26] <chechov> thks
[19:26] <borsha> hi
[19:27] <haanuj> thanx
[19:27] <progre55> so anybody know why printscreen not working while menu is dropped down?
[19:27] <lomb> can't install flash for firefox :<
[19:27] <Striking7> ashka: that's what I figured.... I can't find the crontab binary anywhere though
[19:27] <ashka> cron -e
[19:27] <ProfOak> http://i30.tinypic.com/2i21kp5.jpg Does anyone know how to get the handles of this panel transparent?
[19:27] <Striking7> ashka - odd... I just did an apt-get install cron and I have crontab now
[19:27] <cyberfux> Anyone with an idea when webcams will work properly in ubuntu?
[19:28] <Striking7> .... why the cron package wasn't already selected I don't know
[19:28] <arand> lstarnes: can I somehow figure out which ones? I managed to recursively change the ownership of it?
[19:28] <lstarnes> arand: http://pastebin.com/f7751a897 is what I have
[19:28] <ashka> lomb, you doesn't follow the install instructions
[19:28] <progre55> ProfOak, gnome?
[19:28] <lomb> its .deb, what install instruction?
[19:28] <ashka> ProfOak, right-clic on your panel
[19:28] <eager_geek> print screen should work with menu down, just Alt+Prtsc
[19:28] <ashka> Preferences
[19:28] <ProfOak> progre55: Yes gnome
[19:29] <progre55> ProfOak, compiz?
[19:29] <ProfOak> ashka: the rest is transparent, except the handles
[19:29] <ProfOak> progre55: yes compiz
[19:29] <ashka> ProfOak, it's not possible to switch the handles transparent
[19:29] <progre55> ProfOak, opacity, brightness, and saturation> in the opacity tab > add "name=gnome-panel" level "85"(any level you like)
[19:30] <^cheeky> hi, if i am in my server via sftp, and iam in the directory where i want to drop some files from my main machine .. what command would i use .. i mean it  would "put"but how do i give the path way of my desktop machine  to my server
[19:30] <dakarn> !upkg
[19:30] <progre55> ProfOak, oh that was all in the ccsm btw =)
[19:30] <losher> darkblue_B: as you can see, none of the keys offered by the client were accepted by the server. Please check that client:.ssh/id_rsa.pub matches an entry in server:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:30] <arand> lstarnes: okay, seems doable, phew..
[19:30] <ProfOak> progre55: thanks I'll try it now
[19:30] <grawity> ^cheeky: 'lcd' will change directories in the local machine.
[19:30] <eager_geek> who knows how to sync Gedit and Notepad?
[19:30] <jonathan__> hello! I want to play an matroska video (.mkv) but it can't be played by vlc nur any other media player. the codec is h264
[19:31] <grawity> eager_geek: What do you mean?
[19:31] <Phantom> americasarmy.com
[19:31] <progre55> eager_geek, nope, not working.. I use a laptop, and I press fn+alt+printcreen
[19:31] <lstarnes> arand: I'm not sure if rebooting would automatically fix permissions
[19:31] <grawity> ^cheeky: You might want to try the integrated SFTP support in GNOME -- just click Places -> Connectg to server...
[19:31] <darkblue_B> losher yes - he sent me the result of ssh-keygen, which I just copied entirely to guest/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:31] <eager_geek> grawity: when I save in Gedit, Notepad lose formating
[19:31] <DysonReturns_> lstarnes: it asks me: "File to write to: /tmp/crontab.H6f4aC/crontab"
[19:31] <ProfOak> progre55: I don't think that works
[19:31] <grawity> DysonReturns_: Press Enter.
[19:31] <DysonReturns_> lstarnes: where is a good space to put this crontab file?
[19:31] <darkblue_B> rsa_id.pub was the default name of his file
[19:31] <tuna> hello
[19:31] <lstarnes> DysonReturns_: just save it there
[19:32] <Klavier> did u install kojoney on ubuntu?
[19:32] <lstarnes> DysonReturns_: it'll automatically move to the right place
[19:32] <Pici> DysonReturns_: When its done, it'll say: installing new crontab, or similar, and then it'll be good.
[19:32] <losher> jonathan__: a properly installed mplayer plays pretty much anything I've ever thrown at it. Wanna try that next...?
[19:32] <ProfOak> progre55: opacity or opacify?
[19:32] <progre55> ProfOak, do you actually have compiz enabled? and did you enable "opacity, brightness, saturation" as well?
[19:32] <DysonReturns_> but doesnt my /tmp/ get killed?
[19:32] <DysonReturns_> every now and agian
[19:32] <ProfOak> progre55: oh my mistake, wrong menu
[19:32] <progre55> =)
[19:32] <lstarnes> DysonReturns_: it will not stay in /tmp
[19:32] <grawity> DysonReturns_: crontab command will automatically move the new crontab from /tmp once you save it.
[19:32] <^cheeky> grawity, umm sorry stupid question, i take it then it would be ssh i choose then or ftp ?
[19:33] <grawity> ^cheeky: SSH.
[19:33] <lstarnes> DysonReturns_: it'll be moved to a permanent location afterwards
[19:33] <^cheeky> grawity, i already am sshd into my server, via terminal
[19:33] <grawity> eager_geek: Windows systems use CR/LF line endings, and Notepad, being the simplest editor of all, doesn't recognize anyything else. And gedit, like most Unix programs, uses just the LF to mark end of line. There are commands "dos2unix" and "unix2dos" (in package tofrodos) that convert one to other.
[19:33] <arand> lstarnes: always woth a try I guess...
[19:33] <losher> darkblue_B: time for a bigger gun. On the server, kill sshd and restart it with "-d" to get debugs from the *server* this time. And paste....
[19:34] <jonathan__> losher: ok i will try. do i have to compile it or should it work to simply install it?
[19:34] <grawity> eager_geek: But an easier way would be to use a Windows editor that _does_ support Unix-style line endings -- notepad2 from http://flos-freeware.ch/ is a nice one.
[19:34] <darkblue_B> losher ok
[19:34] <DysonReturns_> Thank you.
[19:34] <grawity> eager_geek: The "SSH" option in GNOME actually opens a SFTP connection for file transfers.
[19:34] <grawity> eager_geek: Except you'll be able to simply drag and drop the files.
[19:35] <deagleson> I made a thread on Ubuntu forums Link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7647285#post7647285 need some smart linux users to help me out. xD
[19:35] <losher> jonathan__: simply install it. Especially, look for the additional codec packages.
[19:35] <losher> !mp3
[19:35] <losher> !mplayer
[19:35] <grawity> eager_geek: er, sorry, those two were for ^cheeky
[19:35] <iamarto> Hi everyone, anyone is using Transmission BitTorrent client??
[19:35] <losher> !codecs | jonathan__
[19:35] <grawity> ^cheeky: The "SSH" option in GNOME actually opens a SFTP connection for file transfers. Except you'll be able to simply drag and drop the files.
[19:35] <eager_geek> Grawity:many thanks...very clever response
[19:35] <felipe__> #ubuntu-br
[19:35] <^cheeky> grawity, oh nice .. it opens up a browser with sftp buut, when i move a file from desktop to the remote folder it says .. access denied ?
[19:36] <losher> !multiverse
[19:36] <^cheeky> grawity, yeah .. i did this but get permission denied
[19:36] <losher> !codecs
[19:36] <iamarto> The Transmission is the default BTorrent client on Ubuntu... it does NOT upload.. anyone relates to that??
[19:36] <grawity> ^cheeky: Did you browse to your home directory? By default, GNOME throws you directly into the root directory of the remote server - usually you need to go to the "home" folder and then open your owndirectory there.
[19:36] <progre55> ProfOak, so did you manage to get it working? )
[19:36] <grawity> ^cheeky: your own*
[19:37] <pw-toxic> pleeassse tell me how i can uninstall ati sound drivers..
[19:37] <pw-toxic> this is frustrating
[19:37] <ProfOak> progre55: no, I don't think it works on panels. I think it's strictly open windows
[19:37] <^cheeky> grawity, oh man i made the folder i want to share in my root folder .. is that a bad thing ?
[19:37] <Gnimsh> I told gnome to remember my running programs on logout, but then It urend it off.
[19:37] <progre55> ProfOak, weird.. sec
[19:37] <felipe__> #ubuntu-br
[19:37] <Gnimsh> However, I don't have skype running when I log out either
[19:37] <iamarto> Nobody is using Transmission here????
[19:38] <cyberfux> imarto what's the prob?
[19:38] <grawity> ^cheeky: It isn't a bad thing, but the directory might not have the required permissions, depending on how you made it.
[19:38] <iamarto> cyberfux: IT is not uploading.. only Downloading
[19:38] <cyberfux> iamarto do you use any tracker?
[19:38] <eager_geek> iamarto: I use transmission!
[19:39] <grawity> ^cheeky: You might need to set yourself as that directory's owner -- in the SSH session, 'sudo chown yourusername /directory/'
[19:39] <^cheeky> grawity, how can i give it permission for it .. chown -R cheeky /cheekymedia ..?
[19:39] <grawity> ^cheeky: Yes.
[19:39] <felipe__> brazil aew
[19:39] <felipe__> ?
[19:39] <iamarto> eager_geek: ok, does it upload with you?
[19:39] <iamarto> cyberfux: Yes, it is a private tracker
[19:39] <felipe__> #ubuntu-br
[19:39] <sebsebseb> !br |  felipe__
[19:39] <yeyo> how i can connect my modem to internet remotely???
[19:39] <^cheeky> grawity, let me try
[19:39] <Gnimsh> iamarto, i use deluge
[19:39] <darkblue_B> losher I have done sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop;  ## was thankful that I can still run my machine, since it is remote; sudo sshd -D -f /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:40] <Gnimsh> transmission is kinda lame and doesn't have enough features
[19:40] <iamarto> Gnimsh: is it better?
[19:40] <felipe__> vlw
[19:40] <Gnimsh> ya
[19:40] <iamarto> Gnimsh: is there an Ubuntu package for it?
[19:40] <darkblue_B> but, it wont start.. complaining that sshd re-exec requires exeution with an absolute path losher
[19:40] <^cheeky> grawity,ok wow it worked
[19:40] <Gnimsh> yep
[19:40] <ProfOak> progre55: I got it working now, but it's not what I really needed. I want to see the text in there, just not the panel part. Thanks though. I don't think this is yet possible.
[19:40] <iamarto> Gnimsh: send me the site please..
[19:40] <Gnimsh> its in synaptic
[19:40] <iamarto> Gnimsh: but I hope at the end.. the upload problem I have was not a global firewall problem
[19:41] <yeyo> how i can connect my modem to internet remotely???
[19:41] <cyberfux> imarto afaik transmission isn't the best for a "new" torrent, tried vuze?
[19:41] <losher> darkblue_B: that just means you need to type /usr/sbin/sshd. Note you want -D and -d for debugging....
[19:41] <darkblue_B> ok, trying
[19:41] <iamarto> cyberfux: Is vuse better than deluge? going to cause flames here I guess.. lol
[19:42] <Guest15834> hi,! i need help how i can modify the /proc/version
[19:42] <cyberfux> imarto vuze was Azureus if you know that name better ;-)
[19:42] <iamarto> cyberfux: yes sure
[19:42] <iamarto> cyberfux: is there an ubuntu package for it?
[19:42] <grawity> iamarto: In my opinion, Vuze is now a piece of junk. The old version, Azureus, was kinda good though.
[19:43] <iamarto> grawity: what do you use?
[19:43] <grawity> iamarto: But the best one is usually the one you like. So try all
[19:43] <grawity> iamarto: I use uTorrent :) (The desktop PC runs Windows.)
[19:43] <iamarto> grawity: I want one that DOES upload.. I am afraid it's a global problem in Ubuntu firewall..
[19:43] <grawity> iamarto: Well, try all - Deluge, Vuze, rtorrent...
[19:43] <Pici> Guest15834: /proc is not a real filesystem, you are not able to edit any of the files there.
[19:44] <grawity> iamarto: But by default, Ubuntu's firewall is off.
[19:44] <sd32> has the recession killed ubuntu.... they pulled all the future release data off the wikipedia page
[19:44] <iamarto> grawity: sure me too.. but I am trying to switch for Ubuntu because it's so strange that Ubuntu Internet is much faster than Vista..for some reason
[19:44] <christiaaan> but ? in google says can modify
[19:44] <Pici> grawity: The firewall is on, but there are no rules.
[19:44] <cyberfux> imarto i'm not quit sure if it's in the official repos, but i have it installable, try sudo apt-get install vuze
[19:44] <christiaaan> and yes i can but when i try to save give an error
[19:44] <darkblue_B> losher http://paste.debian.net/42242/
[19:44] <sebsebseb> !karmic >  sd32
[19:45] <grawity> Pici: It still does the same as if it was disavbled, I guess.
[19:45] <arand> lstarnes: yay, reboot mitigated, cheers for suggestion, and thank god for GNU/linux automagic...
[19:45] <grawity> disabled*
[19:45] <Pici> !ot > sd32
[19:46] <dundel> ubuntu 8.10 is supported till?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> dundel: yes
[19:46] <darkblue_B> losher bad ownership or modes for /home/guest ?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> dundel: untill next April on the desktop, you still using it?
[19:46] <losher> darkblue_B: See this line? --->  Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/guest? Change permissions on /home/guest
[19:46] <chris__> How do you restart usb ??
[19:46] <losher> darkblue_B: rwx for owner, rx for group & world, then retry the ssh....
[19:47] <darkblue_B> losher picky ssh
[19:47] <darkblue_B> ok trying
[19:47] <dundel> sebsebseb: i'm using alfresco, i want to instal on a linux distro, but people still have problems installing it on 9.04
[19:47] <Kangarooo> chris right click on it and unmount and then remove and put again
[19:47] <sebsebseb> dundel: well in certain ways 8.10 is better than 9.04 :)
[19:47] <Kangarooo> chris__:
[19:47] <losher> darkblue_B: Well, it's *security* software. Seems ungrateful to diss it for trying to be secure....
[19:47] <dundel> sebsebseb: i agree
[19:48] <wildc4rd> evening all
[19:48] <Kangarooo> how to check how MB has video card?
[19:48] <losher> dundel: I'm an 8.04.2 fan myself...
[19:48] <Flannel> dundel: Does it work on 8.04?  That's supported until 2011.  But you should wait and see if it works on 9.10 once its released.
[19:48] <sebsebseb> dundel: 8.04.3 is the long term support one though,   that's got about another two years of support on the desktop.   Also when 9.04 comes out loads of people should clean install really, for the default Ext4 file system :)   only way to have the proper thing,  since the conversion won't  quite  do it
[19:48] <Kenny> Hi, iäm completly new to linux ubuntu and are now trying toconnect to internet with a modem but need help to fint the connect and dissconnect button :D
[19:48] <sebsebseb> dundel: when 9.10 comes out above
[19:48] <Kenny> I am connected becosue i checked "connect automaticly"
[19:49] <RanyAlbeg> how can i access nautilus graphically?
[19:49] <Kenny> so it connected for me but there have to bee som better way of doing it
[19:49] <dundel> yes it works on 8.04
[19:49] <chris__> Kenny, on the top right of your screen, there is a network manager icon. You can connect/disconnect using it.
[19:49] <dundel> sebsebseb: yes it works on 8.04 so i think i'm gone use 8.04
[19:49] <Kenny> well i have tried to do so
[19:50] <sebsebseb> dundel: I suggest putting 8.10 on,  and then doing a clean install when 9.10 is out
[19:50] <chris__> Kenny, if network manager isn't running, then you can ifup and ifdown on the terminal.
[19:50] <Kenny> i only have the add, edit and remove button (swedish translated)
[19:50] <lorux> Hola!
[19:50] <sebsebseb> !es |  lorux
[19:50] <dundel> sebsebseb: oke, i will try that thanks :)
[19:50] <lorux> Goede dag!
[19:51] <sebsebseb> dundel: you know where to download 8.10 from?  and no you can't just get it off  the  usaul download page  on the website
[19:51] <RanyAlbeg> how can i access nautilus graphically?
[19:51] <dundel> sebsebseb: yeah i got it, i'm using it atm
[19:51] <med\weeds> whats the problem with 9.04 dundel ?
[19:51] <ophiliabooty> hi im new to linux ubuntu i am trying to view youtube vids and everytime i try to veiw one it says i need to install flash player and there was a link to download it so i followed the link and downloaded it and it still does not work cn someone please help me
[19:51] <sebsebseb> dundel: if you still have the ISO  I would suggest md5suming it even though,   it's probably  a good one
[19:51] <med\weeds> ive installed it a couple dozen times and had troubles somewhere almost every time lol
[19:51] <lstarnes> RanyAlbeg: it is graphical
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  dundel
[19:52] <apache> servus
[19:52] <burkmat> Attempting to troubleshoot something haywire with a server, but I can't log in locally since the monitor just fills up with kernel errors (at least that's what I think they are...). How do I get myself a terminal I can actually work with?
[19:52] <lstarnes> RanyAlbeg: pretty much anything in the places menu in gnome uses nautilus
[19:52] <christiaaan> anyway, no chance to change /proc/version ?
[19:52] <dundel> med\weeds: i didn't try it yet with alfresco 3.2 i'm gone try that first, it didn't work for some people though, but i'm gonna give it a shot
[19:52] <lorux> Dames en heren, goeden dag?
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[19:53] <maestrolonux> 20886 srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve a #supremos-op
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[19:53] <mad1> 9346 srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve a #supremos-op
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[19:53] <DJ_D3XTER> 10800 srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve a #supremos-op
[19:53] <Lovercases> 15403 srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve a #supremos-op
[19:53] <reng0> 29095 srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve a #supremos-op
[19:53] <maestrolonux> 5520 srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve a #supremos-op
[19:53] <darkblue_B> losher I made the change you sugested - my partner has stepped away from his computer.. I will resume in a few minutes.. I apprecaite the feedback
[19:54] <Kangarooo> how to check video card properties?
[19:54] <losher> darkblue_B: I have to step out. Back in a couple of hours. I'm guessing you'll have it down by then...
[19:54] <arand> How do I build the .deb package from the contents of "apt-get source package"
[19:55]  * losher says what the heck just happened with that #supremos flood? I mean, I like the Supremes as much as the next person, but...
[19:56] <Kangarooo> how to check video card mb? how much mb video card has? video properties?
[19:57] <lstarnes> Kangarooo: try System > Preferences > hardware information
[19:58] <losher> Kangarooo: lspci, lshw, or dmidecode may tell you. Failing all else, look up the model number specifications via google....
[19:59] <Kwaa> what is the command to uninstall an app, like irssi? sudo apt-get uninstall irssi?
[19:59] <Pici> Kwaa: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[19:59] <Kwaa> Thank you
[19:59] <losher> Kwaa: see also apt-get autoremove, and apt-get purge
[19:59] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:01] <Homosexual-Hacke> Cant seem to be able to find any answer for this question. How can i have a mass proxy script like this sites does http://www.phpproxy.ro/
[20:01] <izap> Homosexual-Hacke: its not ubuntu related ?
[20:02] <arleslie> Homosexual-Hacke, You would need to search google for it, and this is ubuntu support not web master
[20:02] <feyner_> ##php ?
[20:02] <Homosexual-Hacke> izap, theris only me in the #website channel and the #php is apprently uder some sort of attack
[20:02] <Pici> Homosexual-Hacke: No, you just need to be registered to join.
[20:03] <Pici> !register > Homosexual-Hacke
[20:03] <jiffe> anyone using GFS on ubuntu?  I seem to have a lot of issues with my setup and not sure where I am going wrong
[20:03] <Homosexual-Hacke> Ill read it later pici
[20:04] <mzea> what will be the home directory for the anonymous mode in FTP server??
[20:04] <grawity> Homosexual-Hacke: It tells you how to get into ##php
[20:05] <arand> How do I turn a .dsc (+ orig.tar.gz & diff.gz) file into a .deb package?
[20:05] <jedus> 30426 <@FloodBot1> w3 are sendiding lo7 of pijazos against your fucking channel - choopahme la verGa firmado: srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve
[20:05] <jedus> 4800 <@FloodBot1> w3 are sendiding lo7 of pijazos against your fucking channel - choopahme la verGa firmado: srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, ve 
[20:05] <FloodBot1> jedus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:05] <srimux> 26860 <@FloodBot1> w3 are sendiding lo7 of pijazos against your fucking channel - choopahme la verGa firmado: srinux set topic for #supremos: Bienvenidos al Canal Supremos, Soporte de Software Libre y Gnu/Linux - Foro: http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/foro/ - usa http://supremos.pastebin.com/ - Si eres nuevo presentate aqui http://tinyurl.com/8sewux - Wiki: http://supremoteam.homelinux.org/  - Nuevo Portal: http://portalsupremos.net/ - Si no puedes hablar, 
[20:05] <lstarnes> arand: see man dpkg-deb
[20:05] <arleslie> Whats with the spam attacks?
[20:06] <hatter243> !troll
[20:06] <hatter243> whoops\
[20:06] <hatter243> !feedthetroll
[20:06] <arleslie> ok, thanks for explaining it hatter243
[20:07] <cs02rm0> i'm trying a sed replace sed 's/foo/bar/' and it's replacing every instance even though haven't specified a trailing g, any ideas where i'm going wrong?
[20:08] <Nehyx> hello?
[20:08] <Nehyx> what's up with flood?
[20:09] <lstarnes> Nehyx: just ignore it.  It's someone trying to steal our attention
[20:09] <grawity> cs02rm0: sed changes every line separately -- with /g, it changes _all_ occurences, without /g - just the first one in the line. But once it finishes a line, it starts fresh with the next one.
[20:09] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:09] <Nehyx> lstarnes: ok, ignored
[20:10] <reeher> Wow, did registering this nick cause a flood on the channel?  My apologies if it did, I had no intent of flooding the channel.
[20:10] <cs02rm0> grawity: ah, ok, that makes sense, thanks. do i need to use a different tool then / remove newlines if i'm going to use sed to do it across the file?
[20:10] <grawity> reeher: I doubt it's related.
[20:10] <lstarnes> reeher: we saw nothing from you
[20:11] <toni_> matt r u there
[20:11] <reeher> grawity: lstarnes: Beaut, thanks.
[20:11] <toni_> pm me
[20:11] <lstarnes> toni_: check for yourself using /whois NICK
[20:12] <toni_> hay r u there
[20:12] <mark-t> how do I find out what version of a program I have installed if it doesn't have its own --version type argument?
[20:12] <arand> lstarnes: dpkg-deb doesn't accept .dsc files but only folders right, and if I use dpkg-source -x I get a folder with not a DEBIAN but a debian subfolder, which errors dpkg-deb, and if I change it to capital it errors on the control file instead, so I'm guessing things might be awry on the method...
[20:12] <lstarnes> toni_: the user here by the nick of 'matt' has been idle for over 2 days
[20:13] <soreau> mark-t: Your package manager should tell you
[20:13] <toni_> msg me
[20:13] <mark-t> soreau: that's what I'm hoping
[20:13] <Pici> arand: You should take a look at the Ubuntu packaging guide and if you have further questions, ask in #ubuntu-motu
[20:13] <mark-t> soreau: how do I get apt-get to tell me?
[20:13] <soreau> mark-t: dpkg -l|grep <keyword>
[20:14] <NarbFarkus> Java on Jaunty 64-bit seems broken
[20:14] <erUSUL> !bugs | NarbFarkus
[20:14] <NarbFarkus> I can't run any apps without an error, does anyone know if there's a bug somewhere?
[20:14] <mark-t> soreau: got it, thanks
[20:14] <cyberfux> NarbFarkus the whole 64bit is broken IMHO
[20:14] <lstarnes> NarbFarkus: it depends on the error
[20:14] <arand> Pici: I have, and my brain is apparently not wrinkled enough, but I'll try motu, thanks.
[20:14] <lstarnes> cyberfux: I've had no major issues with 64-bit systems
[20:14] <soreau> cyberfux: You read my mind ;)
[20:15] <NarbFarkus> I'm getting .so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch) UnsatisfiedLinkErrors on a fresh install
[20:15] <NarbFarkus> with apps that work fine on other 64-bit machines
[20:15] <NarbFarkus> this is on a fresh install of ubuntu from last night
[20:15] <cyberfux> lstarnes soreau i had too many issues, nothing worked right so i just said STFU to my 4 GB and just use 3 of them ;-(
[20:16] <haxizstaRRR> how is the channel of ubuntu.[de] ?
[20:16] <NarbFarkus> I have the same problem with sun or openjdk
[20:16] <lstarnes> !de | haxizstaRRR
[20:16] <NarbFarkus> I'm downloading the official release from sun's website
[20:16] <erUSUL> NarbFarkus: what are you trying to run.. and how did you installed java ?
[20:16] <haxizstaRRR> thx lstarnes
[20:16] <reeher> Hrm, I'll ask again..  The Shorewall docs are less than precise on this topic.  In macro.XXXX files, if you wish to allow connections from all systems to all systems, can the '-'es be left in the 'source' and 'dest' columns of the macro files?
[20:16] <NarbFarkus> I installed java with apt-get so far, sun-java6-jdk first, didn't work
[20:16] <haxizstaRRR> !de
[20:16] <haxizstaRRR> :D
[20:16] <haxizstaRRR> -.-
[20:16] <NarbFarkus> then I removed that and installed openjdk, same error
[20:17] <NarbFarkus> and the error is on multiple apps, running from eclipse and from web start
[20:17] <mah> How do I change the default handlers for URL's etc (in aMSN i.e.) ? I've tried editing all my defaults.list-files, and setting the correct mime type associations with xdg-mime.. still xdg-open opens the wrong application :(
[20:17] <lstarnes> haxizstaRRR: try /join #ubuntu-de
[20:17] <soreau> cyberfux: After doing support for several years, I've deemed 64 bit os to be very problematic. I don't think there's as much programming/testing time that goes into it and you can run 32bit on 64bit hw anyway
[20:17] <epifanio> hi All
[20:17] <haxizstaRRR> yes
[20:17] <haxizstaRRR> its workin
[20:17] <haxizstaRRR> thanks
[20:17] <NarbFarkus> soreau: you can on OSes that have multiarch support
[20:17] <NarbFarkus> Ubuntu doesn't have multiarch does it?
[20:17] <epifanio> i'm running a custom ubuntulive.iso   i'm using withe preinstalled sw
[20:17] <erUSUL> NarbFarkus: well it seems like a native (not java) shared  library (.so) is loaded and it fails becouse the lib is 32 bit
[20:17] <cyberfux> soreau true! same here! i just try it every release and kick it of the disc asap
[20:17] <soreau> NarbFarkus: AFAIK, you can run 32bit os on 64bit hw
[20:18] <NarbFarkus> erUSUL: yeah I agree, but there are 64-bit libraries and it works on other 64-bit systems
[20:18] <th0r> soreau: glad to hear I am not the only one who is giving 64bit a pass
[20:18] <NarbFarkus> like Hardy, etc
[20:18] <erUSUL> NarbFarkus: so maybe what you are trying to load is not pure java it uses jni or something
[20:18] <NarbFarkus> and this isn't one application, I've tried a few that use jni, same error on all of them
[20:18] <cyberfux> th0r soreau i really don't know anyone who uses 64bit on a every-day-machine
[20:19] <soreau> cyberfux: The ones with the really strange problems :)
[20:19] <DoA> Does anyone know how to fix this: error: "Operation not permitted" setting key "fs.file-max"   ?
[20:19] <soreau> DoA: What is giving you that message?
[20:19] <arleslie> Cyberfux. soreau, th0r: The ones that use 64bit are the ones who are using more then 3gb ram all the tme.
[20:19] <cyberfux> soreau pardon?
[20:20] <soreau> cyberfux: Bad joke, sorry
[20:20] <NarbFarkus> hmm, maybe it has to do with tmpfs
[20:20] <cyberfux> arleslie well i have more then 3 gb (4) but the trouble wasn't worth the win
[20:20] <soreau> arleslie: You can't use >3GB without 64bit os?
[20:20] <DaemonLee> Help. I cannot install Ubuntu. I get an "resizing has been aborted" error.
[20:20] <DaemonLee> Any ideas?
[20:21] <arleslie> soreau, in Windows you can't im not to sure about ubuntu as Im just a novice
[20:21] <cyberfux> arleslie soreau max 3 GB under 32bit also in Linux. Has to do with the architecture, that can't handle more
[20:21] <cl0vvn> Would this be the correct place to ask for help with a Skype sound issue?
[20:22] <arcangel777> sera a tutti
[20:22] <soreau> DaemonLee: Which partition are you trying to resize?
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[20:22] <FloodBot1> maestrolonux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <soreau> bye bye
[20:22] <grawity> arleslie, soreau: Both Windows and Linux can handle a lot of RAM if the hardware supports PAE (Physical Address Extensions).
[20:23] <grawity> soreau: It's just that Windows has an artificial limit for compatibility reasons. (Read The Old New Thing's blog and you'll see what I mean.)
[20:23] <arleslie> grawity, 2gb is for your programs to use, 1gb is for windows and any more is for the hardware
[20:23] <grawity> arleslie: Um, that is _virtual_ address space. Not physical.
[20:23] <DaemonLee> soreau, sorry for the slow response. I'm trying to resize my Vista partition.
[20:23] <DaemonLee> It's 230gb~
[20:23] <cl0vvn> I am getting one minute sound delays whenever i make a call in skype; using ubuntu 9.04
[20:23] <Yanick_> is it actually possible to filter hidden files and folders with gFTP? everytime I'm transfering projects to our webserver, it also transfer all the .svn files along (which takes a lot of time)
[20:24] <arleslie> DaemonLee, You gParted
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[20:24] <soreau> grawity: I thought if the kernel was compiled with support for large amounts of ram, it could handle it but not sure. Never had a system with which to tinker >1GB
[20:24] <arleslie> DaemonLee, *use gParted, sorry missed typed
[20:24] <DaemonLee> Okay.
[20:24] <arleslie> DaemonLee, if you don't have it install you can use, sudo apt-get install gparted
[20:24] <soreau> DaemonLee: Yes, try gparted
[20:24] <soreau> arleslie: He's trying to install ubuntu
[20:25] <grawity> soreau: With more than ~3.4 GB, the CPU must support it. The feature is PAE (Physical Address Extension).
[20:25] <Kangarooo1> is now ubuntu installation default filesystem type ext4 when chpoosing install easy way? take whole disk?
[20:25] <mattgyver> I want to setup a service to start on boot.  When using the /etc/init.d/skeleton file must i code the 'start, stop, and restart' commands or are these already functional?
[20:25] <burkmat> Attempting to remove `ubuntu-desktop`package (and everything it brought along) from my server. Tips?
[20:25] <soreau> grawity: Ah yes, I see that when compiling my gentoo kernel sometimes
[20:25] <th0r> mattgyver: you should at least code the start and stop
[20:26] <arleslie> burkmat, have you tried sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[20:26] <burkmat> arleslie, Only removes the metapackage and leaves everything it brought with it...
[20:26] <mattgyver> th0r, thanks
[20:26] <soreau> mattgyver: start to do what you want, stop for clean up stuff though you really don't have to do anything in stop even though it should be present
[20:27] <yabuk> hey, I'm using Ubuntu and I've tried to set every choices of input device, however I can't to record sound yet, how to fix that?
[20:27] <lesshaste> how do you get azureus to behave sensibly? I have installed it with apt-get but then when it updates itself it still runs the old version
[20:27] <grawity> soreau, arleslie: Windows has artificial caps - XP is limited to 4 GB for compatibility, the server editions have limits of up to 64 GB (probably for marketing reasons) - but they still support PAE.
[20:27] <Alvinware> wow, actually don't need change the cd/dvd filesystem to udf, also works! half a night gone...! lol.
[20:27] <maginot> hi.. which scanner (please not old models) do you recommend that have a good support on linux??
[20:27] <ale__> hallo
[20:27] <ale__> could please somebody help me installing a webcam?
[20:27] <mattgyver> th0r, soreau, is there a way i can make this service not run as root this way?
[20:27] <cyberfux> maginot most epsons and canons should work, have you took a look at the whitelist?
[20:27] <maginot> ale__, what you tried so far ?
[20:28] <ale__> I just plugged it in
[20:28] <maginot> cyberfux, where can I find this whitelist ?
[20:28] <ale__> and noticed that the driver needed is...
[20:28] <cyberfux> maginot which language?
[20:28] <maginot> ale__, you want to use your webcam for chat ?
[20:28] <ale__> SN9C10[12]
[20:28] <soreau> magical: Any usb scanner really. I make it a practice to google about the product I;m interested in with keyword 'linux problem' or 'trouble'
[20:28] <arleslie> burkmat, you can try sudo apt-get autoremove, but I don't know any other way other then to remove them manuly
[20:28] <ale__> maginot: yes, I'd like to use it in skype
[20:28] <NarbFarkus> I think my issue with java/jni/64-bit had to do with tweaks to my SSD
[20:28] <maginot> cyberfux, english is fine
[20:28] <maginot> ale__, what is the model of you webcam ?
[20:28] <NarbFarkus>  /tmp wasn't executable
[20:28] <Yanick_> it actually possible to filter hidden files and folders with gFTP? everytime I'm transfering projects to our webserver, it also transfer all the .svn files along (which takes a lot of time)
[20:29] <ale__> it's an intuix, it should be supported
[20:29] <burkmat> arleslie, but I fear I might remove something I need. will aptitude stop me if I try to remove something which is a dependency currently needed?
[20:29] <soreau> mattgyver: No, to run services as user, you should probably place them in your startup sessions
[20:29] <maginot> ale__, well, on 9.04, apt-get isntall libv4l-0 ?
[20:30] <soreau> mattgyver: As a general rule, anything in the /etc files will be run as root
[20:30] <mattgyver> soreau, i guess the only issue with that on my end is that this is a server not running botting directly into gnome
[20:30] <safruhani> hi,using 8.10, a process called phy0 works, what is it? if i stop it, what will happen?do you use it?
[20:30] <soreau> mattgyver: I was just thinking about that.. try asking in ##linux for better answers perhaps
[20:30] <mah> How do I change the default handlers for URL's etc (in aMSN i.e.) ? I've tried editing all my defaults.list-files, and setting the correct mime type associations with xdg-mime.. still xdg-open opens the wrong application :(
[20:30] <arleslie> burkmat, I don't know if aptitude will stop you, here is the info of ubuntu-desktop, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/222941/
[20:30] <mattgyver> soreau, okie doke, thanks for the info too
[20:30] <safruhani> 1 S     0  2870     2  1  75  -5 -     0 worker ?        00:00:59 phy0
[20:30] <Alvinware> Should i finalized my dvd?
[20:30] <cyberfux> maginot i can't find the link atm, perhaps google 4 "ubuntu supported hardware" ?
[20:31] <ale__> maginot: what is it for?
[20:31] <Alvinware> ubottu, what's finalized?
[20:31] <maginot> cyberfux, ok I will...
[20:31] <burkmat> arleslie, guess i'll have to glue together some grepping magic with aptitude and hope for the best. Thanks for the help. ;)
[20:31] <Alvinware> Do i need to finalized my disc?
[20:31] <arleslie> Cyber_Akuma, maginot: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html
[20:31] <jiffe> anyone using GFS on ubuntu?  I seem to have a lot of issues with my setup and not sure where I am going wrong
[20:32] <arleslie> cyberfux: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html ... the tab thing doesn't work out for me
[20:32] <jiffe> I guess I'm not entirely sure what to expect, I start up ccsd and both come up stating the cluster is inquorate
[20:33] <Stanley_> I'm manually creating my partitions... Just to make sure i"m doing it right... I've created a 512MB Primary partition lcoated at the beginning with an Ext3 journaling file system and the mount point is /boot, I've created a 512MB primary partition at the beginning thats the swap area, and then a 25600MB logical volume at the beginning thats an Ext3 file system and the moutn point is /
[20:33] <cyberfux> arleslie well even 7.10 is a little old ;-)
[20:33] <epifanio> i need to use an application installed on the live  that needs 3d glx graphic driver,  when i start this app in my live.dvd i have this log :  Xlib : extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"   ;  have any clue on what i need to fix it ?  i can try to remake a new .iso following your suggestion
[20:33] <arleslie> cyberfux: I downloaded the netbook one
[20:33] <cyberfux> arleslie ubunut 9.04 nbr ? me 2 on my eee
[20:34] <maginot> ale__, try: sudo apt-get install libv4l-0 and see if your skype will work with the webcam
[20:34] <arleslie> cyberfux: what????
[20:34] <sup> Will someone take a look at my pastebin and help me figure out how to enable Direct Rendering?
[20:34] <sup> http://pastebin.org/3269
[20:34] <cyberfux> arleslie the netbook remix ?
[20:35] <arleslie> Stanley_, yes that looks correct
[20:35] <arleslie> cyberfux, yes
[20:36] <cyberfux> arleslie well i use the nbr on my eeePC, the standard-version on my desktop, Xubuntu on my mediaplayer, and the server on my server ;-)
[20:36] <soreau> Does anyone happen to know of a nice looking standalone wifi monitor, like in a widget form?
[20:36] <epifanio> for now i'm "fixing" my problem, running the live-dvd ,  download propietary driver for my card ,  install it  and restart gdm
[20:36] <arleslie> cyberfux, did your nbr come with 9.04?
[20:37] <cyberfux> arleslie well the nbr IS in the repos but is downloaded the nbr version (the img) vom ubuntu.com
[20:37] <epifanio> have you any clue if it is possible to fix this problem using a "generic way"  that can be usable in a live-session  without installing additional drivers ?
[20:37] <rek> ogra
[20:37] <rek> or someone else
[20:37] <cl0vvn> Are there any ubuntu users who use skype?
[20:38] <arleslie> cyberfux is there a way I can update to 9.04 with out reinstalling
[20:38] <rek> therse a problem
[20:38] <Pici> !ask |  rek
[20:38] <cl0vvn> I am getting an issue where my sound is delayed by one minute; sound *works* but not very well.
[20:38] <lomb> yes cl0vvn
[20:38] <mathieui> 21:01:42 [Freenode] DCC SEND from acidburn [0.0.0.0 port 0]: IM12ANDWHATISDIS.exe [0B bytes] requested in channel #ubuntu
[20:38] <mathieui> 21:06:43 [Freenode] DCC aborted receiving file IM12ANDWHATISDIS.exe from acidburn
[20:38] <mathieui> …
[20:38] <Pici> mathieui: No need to repeat that, it was taken care of long ago.
[20:38] <lomb> when I open skype my sound turns off
[20:38] <mathieui> Pici: sorry
[20:39] <mathieui> just back now
[20:39] <cl0vvn> I set everything to pulse in the audio settings, and that helped sound actually work
[20:39] <cl0vvn> now I am just getting a one minute delay
[20:39] <rek> i'was trying to make an image of win ce with ipaq h5550 with bootblaster but it got stuck i shut down it and now my ipaq does not work any more please help!
[20:39] <arleslie> Glad, I was here for that dcc send but don't they know it won't bother linux...
[20:40] <rek> i need some intelligent people
[20:40] <cyberfux> rek and then you search HERE in teh interweb????
[20:40] <Pici> rek: What does this have to do with Ubuntu support?
[20:40] <arleslie> rek: if your talking about windows join #windows
[20:41] <rek> because there's ogra i know he's intelligent and can do this because i spoke to him
[20:41] <Pici> rek: Then you can private message him.  This doesn't look like it has anything to do with Ubuntu Support, which is the topic of this channel.
[20:41] <sup> Will someone take a look at my pastebin and help me figure out why direct rendering isnt workig?
[20:41] <sup> http://pastebin.org/3269
[20:41] <arleslie> rek: do /msg ogra, to talk to him, this is ubuntu support
[20:41] <rek> already done
[20:41] <rek> i did qhery
[20:42] <arleslie> rek: then wait for him to reply
[20:42] <rek> arleslie:  also i have some problem with ubuntu infact i'm not able to run synce
[20:42] <rek> therse a plugin missing
[20:42] <rek> legacy
[20:43] <arleslie> rek: I don't know anything about synce, ask aloud
[20:43] <franziska> ahaaa
[20:43] <rek> aloud
[20:43] <arleslie> rek: that means with out my name
[20:43] <rek> ;-)
[20:43] <rek> hey ubuntu help
[20:44] <sup> hi
[20:44] <franziska> moin
[20:44] <rek> hi sup
[20:44] <cl0vvn> http://xkcd.com/570/
[20:44] <franziska> hi
[20:44] <Pici> !ot | cl0vvn
[20:44] <franziska> love you
[20:44] <arleslie> !ask | rek
[20:44] <franziska> ich liebe dich
[20:44] <cl0vvn> oh sorry
[20:44] <cl0vvn> wrong window there.
[20:44] <franziska> muss dir nich leid tut
[20:45] <Pici> !de | franziska
[20:45] <rek> there's a plugin missing.... for synce for hardy
[20:45] <franziska> i love you
[20:45] <franziska> was ist das hier denn für ein schwachsinn???
[20:46] <badboy_> hi all
[20:46] <erUSUL> !de
[20:46]  * erUSUL sorry
[20:46] <badboy_> #ubuntu.pt
[20:46] <Athunye> I cannot post in the forums. I can log in, when I hit "Submit New Tread" it stays waiting forever...
[20:47] <notmike> Can someone help me out with setting up phpldapadmin pleez?
[20:47] <franziska> hello my darling...
[20:47] <brian> i have a problem im trying to get emeral to change my themes and i opened the terminal and typed emerald --replace     and i switches theme but when i close the terminal all my window boarders go away
[20:47] <Flannel> Athunye: Try asking in #ubuntuforums, they'll be able to help
[20:47] <Athunye> Flannel: OK. Thanks.
[20:47] <franziska> i don't speak english
[20:48] <arleslie> franziska, What language you speek?
[20:48] <badboy_> portuguese
[20:48] <Pici> !pt | badboy_
[20:48] <badboy_> ty
[20:48] <franziska> a little bit enlish..
[20:48] <notmike> Anybody know a good tutorial for setting up phpldapadmin, or know a better gui for LDAP?
[20:49] <arleslie> fraziska: what language?
[20:49] <franziska> i speak german...
[20:49] <Pici> franziska: Please /join #ubuntu-de
[20:49] <franziska> excuse me...what?
[20:49] <arleslie> !de | franziska
[20:49] <cyberfux> frnaziska or: if you have a prob msg me ;-) i'm also from Kartoffelland ;-)
[20:49] <Pici> franziska: Type: /join #ubuntu-de   then press enter
[20:51] <unop> notmike, GOSA perhaps
[20:51] <sup> :x
[20:52] <notmike> thnx
[20:52] <world_ate_jimmy1> ok... after a WHOLE morning, the copying process ended.
[20:53] <arleslie> world_ate_jimmy1, what seems to be the problem, other then "the copying process ended."
[20:53] <world_ate_jimmy1> so, now how can i restore the partitions?
[20:54] <world_ate_jimmy> damn, Threetimes is gone... :(
[20:54] <linuxguy2009> Ive got a newbee question. In add/remove I know that the blue K and the gnome foot indicate its a KDE or Gnome app.What does the red heart symbol indicate?
[20:55] <linuxguy2009> Community supplied app?
[20:56] <lomb> anybody from France ?
[20:56] <unop> !fr
[20:56] <unop> linuxguy2009, i don't use gnome - maybe if you named an app that has this symbol, i could tell you what it symbolises?
[20:56] <netz> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[20:56] <Stanley_> I had somebody suggest that i install wicd instead of the usual network-manager, I've done this and it's working, I'm just wondering if anybody else would suggest this? The guy _was_ in the fedora channel after all :lol:
[20:57] <sup> what are debugging symbols?
[20:57] <cyberfux> linuxguy2009 well i use gnome and never saw those symbols ;-) perhaps u should use synaptic or apt-get ;-)
[20:57] <unop> !ops | netz playing about with DCC boots
[20:57] <frostburn> sup, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_symbol
[20:57] <Antaranian> hi there
[20:57] <ikonia> netz please stop
[20:58] <Antaranian> I have some issues with installing ant
[20:58] <Antaranian> problem is with java_home I think
[20:58] <Antaranian> * JAVA_HOME
[20:59] <unop> Stanley_, i know of quite a few people who have better luck with wicd
[21:00] <Antaranian> yes, problem is with JAVA_HOME
[21:00] <Antaranian> root@mushex-desktop:~/svn/red5# /usr/share/ant/bin/ant
[21:00] <Antaranian> Error: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly.
[21:00] <Antaranian> can anyone help me please ???
[21:00] <candive> Hi all, I accidentally removed my shut down button. how do I replace it , Please and Thank you
[21:01] <MOre01> HELLO¿
[21:01] <candive> software shutdown button
[21:01] <world_ate_jimmy> ok... my partitions seem to be missing, gparted shows my disk as unallocated
[21:01] <world_ate_jimmy> however, i can mount the partitions via terminal of places menu
[21:01] <world_ate_jimmy> how can i restore my disk to its original state_
[21:01] <Jason_WT> anyone know where i can get a free shell account with a few gb of hdd space? I need it to do some open source testing, my home machine network is far to slow
[21:02] <olinuxx> yep'
[21:02] <samsol_> does anyone knows how to change compiz menu popup animation to something else? (now is Glide or Zoom from center,something like that)
[21:02] <candive> I will try a hard start. Chow.
[21:02] <arleslie> Jason_WT, http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml
[21:03] <unop> Antaranian, JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun /usr/share/ant/bin/ant
[21:03] <MOre01> i dont now use this application!!
[21:03] <MOre01> help me please!
[21:03] <losher> Jason_WT: there's a bunch, google them...
[21:04] <arleslie> !ask | M0re01
[21:04] <world_ate_jimmy> nobody_
[21:04] <Jason_WT> all the ones i have found seem to justgive bout a few MBs
[21:04] <world_ate_jimmy> ?
[21:04] <Antaranian> thank you very much unop
[21:05] <MOre01> jejeje OK!
[21:05] <Antaranian> as I see you did it before, right ?
[21:05] <unop> Antaranian, if that works, you'll want to add a line like this to your ~/.bashrc.   export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[21:06] <Antaranian> unop it won't work
[21:06] <Antaranian> unop:  but now cause of another problem
[21:06] <rwparris2> is it safe to reboot during fsck?
[21:06] <rwparris2> it seems 'stuck'
[21:06] <uccadmin> Is it possible to have external drives automatically mount sychronously? I'm managing a lab where users are unlikely to unmount their drives and thus will lose data rather often.
[21:07] <hdon> how can i take a screenshot?
[21:07] <axisys> just today when i am inserting cdrom .. it is not auto mounting .. what service do I need to check?
[21:07] <hdon> prtscn doesn't seem to work
[21:07] <hdon> and gimp doesn't have any options either, afaict
[21:07] <unop> uccadmin, define an entry in /etc/fstab and give the drive appropriate options - though be warned, mounting something with 'sync' makes all operations dreadfully slow
[21:07] <hdon> oh, File>Creat
[21:07] <VCoolio> ubottu: /save
[21:08] <jjlee> Can anybody save me some tiresome googling by providing the magic words for "service provider that provides SIP or H.323 dial-out access to PSTN networks"?
[21:08] <hdon> wow, how lame. it got the windows over top of the window i wanted.
[21:08] <jjlee> VOIP service provider websites are a model of confusion about what exactly it is they provide.
[21:08] <eino> in Pidgin, can I hide the buddy lists contacts buddyicons and reduce the height of each buddys row?
[21:09] <losher> Jason_WT: Oops, you're right. 2GB is a lot of space to ask for. Might be hard to find...
[21:09] <uccadmin> unop: Can I do this for ALL drives that will be mounted in the future? And do you mean operations on that drive, or all operations on the system?
[21:09] <OttifantSir> samsol_: I only know how to do it with Simple CCSM: Install it, open it, Animations tab, choose the ones you want.
[21:09] <spursncowboys> I have a neice in seventh grade and nephew in fifth. Should I send them Edubuntu or just Ubuntu?
[21:10] <unop> uccadmin, operations on the drive .. ideally you'll want to create an entry for every drive that might be attached to the system using a UUID instead of a device name, because you cannot guarantee a given drive will use the device you want.
[21:10] <jjlee> actually, I guess really what I want is a word for "SIP or H.323 dial-out access to PSTN networks".  I want a name for that service.
[21:10] <OttifantSir> spursncowboys: I'd just send them Ubuntu.
[21:10] <arleslie> spursncowboys, Are you wishing to send help with their school work?
[21:10] <uccadmin> unop: I see. This might be more trouble than its worth...
[21:11] <unop> uccadmin, yea, it can be for a large number of drives
[21:11] <candive> Hi all, I accidentally removed my red software shut down button. how do I replace it , Please and Thank you
[21:11] <wfiuewfew1> Hi! I need to log memory use and processor utilization. any idea if these is a package that does this?
[21:11] <eino> how can I remove the buddyicons from Pidgins buddy list and reduce the height of each buddys row?
[21:11] <unop> uccadmin, do users plug in the drives themselves?
[21:11] <spursncowboys> arleslie: no they live with a apple that they keep messing up and are starting to be banned, and a four year old computer with no o.s.
[21:12] <qe2eqe> I just can't do dual head. Windows does it, but ubuntu wont. =/
[21:12] <soulwarp> !help | soulwarp
[21:12] <uccadmin> unop: Yes. This is a student-use lab. It is expected that users will bring drives to save documents on, as the machines are reformatted nightly
[21:12] <spursncowboys> They will use that computer for internet and school.
[21:12] <unop> uccadmin, and i assume that students use FAT formatted volumes ?
[21:13] <toni_> I am haveing a hard time in trying to find out how to do remote desktop.and it seem's that the people that i talk to in here seems to not really help me out
[21:13] <erUSUL> !info sysstat | wfiuewfew1
[21:13] <spursncowboys> Thanks arleslie, I will send ubuntu to them
[21:13] <sup> Does anyone know of a good weather tracking program?
[21:13] <uccadmin> unop: I have encountered mostly FAT drives, but some NTFS and other file systems. It depends on how much computer experience the user has
[21:13] <arleslie> spursncowboys, then I would just send them ubuntu, but check out edubuntu and see if you would like it for them, http://www.edubuntu.org/
[21:13] <toni_> can anybody help me
[21:13] <soulwarp> FAT?
[21:14] <arleslie> !ask | toni_
[21:14] <spursncowboys> I went there and was still unsure if it was designed with the idea of being for kids, or for teachers.
[21:14] <toni_> then help me out
[21:14] <unop> uccadmin, ok, have a look at pmount (policy mount) - you can use it to apply certain policies or use policy sets when mounting volumes (some trouble getting it configured and replacing gnome-mount,etc tho)
[21:14] <arleslie> spursncowboys, its for both, so then just send ubuntu
[21:14] <OttifantSir> spursncowboys: Both, really.
[21:14] <eino> how can I remove the buddyicons from Pidgins buddy list and reduce the height of each buddys row?
[21:15] <arleslie> toni_: you have to ask a question before someone can help
[21:15] <spursncowboys> ok will do.
[21:16] <toni_> can somebody help me get the remote desktop to work.i have had some of the people in here to help me
[21:16] <toni_> but no luck
[21:16] <renic> what is afs3-kaserver (port 7004/tcp)
[21:16] <renic> ?
[21:16] <unop> uccadmin, there's also some indication that the gnome-volume-manager can be configured - not sure exactly how.
[21:16] <toni_> i have done what thay tould me to do
[21:16] <toni_> run this .run that
[21:17] <arleslie> toni_, what seems to the the problem, are you trying to remote desktop to a remote computer or are you trying to set up remote desktop on a ubuntu server?
[21:17] <OttifantSir> toni_: you have to give us some details on what isn't working with remote desktop before we can help. Are you trying to view Ubuntu from Ubuntu, or Windows/Mac from Ubuntu, or Ubuntu from Windows/Mac? Do you get error messages? What are they?
[21:17] <wfiuewfew1> erUSUL: Do you know of  a shell script that does tha
[21:17] <toni_> yes i guess
[21:18] <toni_> ubuntu from ubuntu
[21:18] <erUSUL> wfiuewfew1: that does what ?
[21:18] <wfiuewfew1> erUSUL: A script that monitors cpu and memory utilization
[21:18] <toni_> I JUST TOULD YALL WHAT I NEEED NOW HELP ME OUT
[21:18] <world_ate_jimmy> is it doable or not?
[21:19] <uccadmin> unop: I'll look into that. Thanks for your help
[21:19] <arleslie> toni_, your not giving us enough info to help and remember that this is community help.
[21:19] <OttifantSir> toni_: You been to System->Preferences->External Desktop on the machine you want to view and allowed people to see and control its desktop?
[21:19] <toni_> yes i have doen all this shit \
[21:20] <toni_> ok
[21:20] <ikonia> toni_: please control your language
[21:20] <toni_>  OK
[21:20] <toni_> dont ask me to do something that i have done
[21:20] <moltenbobcat> How were they supposed to know what you have done?
[21:21] <ikonia> toni_: the people here are trying to help, work with them to help them to help you
[21:21] <toni_> yall have just askd y me and i have toul
[21:22] <ericP> the guy next to me has an ubuntu 7 box and would like to upgrade to ubuntu 9 (or whatever's latest)
[21:22] <toni_> i have try'd to use  my ip's and it is not working
[21:22] <|F5|> XD
[21:22] <|F5|> hello
[21:22] <ericP> dist-upgrade flags 64 packages for update, so that seems a little light for two versions
[21:22] <ikonia> ericP: it's easier to do a clean install, more so with the older releases.
[21:22] <|F5|> how are they?
[21:22] <OttifantSir> toni_:  Have you disabled "Confirm access to this machine"? And set up "Require users to type this password"? And "Configure the network to accept connections automatically"?
[21:23] <ikonia> ericP: it upgrades through the versions, so you have to go 7.04->7.10->8.04->8.10->9.04
[21:23] <toni_> I DONT KNOW HOW
[21:23] <ericP> ikonia, cool - that's consistent with the feedback of the upgrade manager
[21:23] <ericP> ikonia, i guess it's a question of whether to burn a cd or babysit a lot -- tx
[21:23] <ikonia> ericP: so it will upgrade thorugh the versions, you'll have to do additional upgrades
[21:23] <toni_> plese i really need one on one help
[21:23] <OttifantSir> toni_: If you remember, I asked if you had been to External Desktop? It's all in there.
[21:24] <toni_> yes i got it
[21:24] <ikonia> ericP: burn a cd - clean install. Lots have changed from 7.04 to 9.04
[21:24] <jrib> toni_: you have to ask a question (I have no idea what you need help with after reading your last 2 statements)
[21:24] <toni_> remote deskto p
[21:24] <jrib> !who | toni_
[21:24] <erUSUL> wfiuewfew1: check the package i mentioned. the sar command is what you are looking for
[21:25] <toni_> i need help
[21:25] <kora-chan> heya i'm using exaile 0.2.14 and just wanted to ask, if the last.fm radio plugin (0.2.7) works for anyone right now?
[21:25] <toni_> yall know now what i need help on
[21:25] <Andy80> hi all
[21:25] <toni_> so help me out
[21:25] <ikonia> toni_: clam down please
[21:25] <stovicek> toni_: you need patience. before then, no one can help you
[21:25] <ikonia> toni_: work with people rather than just keep saying help me
[21:26] <Andy80> I've seen that there are a lot of repository for Firefox 3.5 for Ubuntu Jaunty... could you suggest me the most stable? or at least one stable repository?
[21:26] <jrib> toni_: if you actually want help then 1) ask a question on a single line and 2) if someone is helping you address them directly by prefixing what you write with their name.  Stop saying "help me"
[21:26] <ikonia> Andy80: it's in the universe repo
[21:26] <ikonia> Andy80: from ubuntu
[21:26] <toni_> HOW CAN I WORK WITCH PEOPLE WHO ASK ME THE SAME GOD DAME ??/ THAT I NEED HELP ON
[21:26] <ikonia> toni_: drop the attitude and the caps lock please. People are trying to help
[21:27] <OttifantSir> jrib: I am trying to help him, but he doesn't seem to want to be helped. When I ask questions about what he's done to make it work already, he gets exacerbated.
[21:27] <toni_> YALL R NOT HELPING
[21:27] <ikonia> toni_: final warning
[21:27] <toni_> or what
[21:27] <jrib> toni_: stop please.  OttifantSir seems to know your issue.  Try working with him.  Answer his questions so he can help you
[21:27] <ikonia> toni_: drop the caps and the attitude, clam down and work with someone, listen to what they sayt to you
[21:27] <klenz1> hey i just install ubuntu and i cant seem to raise my resolution i have the drivers installed its the nividia 96 driver, with a nvidia geforce 4 card can anyone help me out?
[21:27] <OttifantSir> toni_: You are about a hair's breadth from being kicked. I'm not an op, so I have no control. Just a friendly warning.
[21:27] <notmike> any idea on this gosa error?
[21:27] <notmike> Fatal error: Call to undefined function get_gosa_version() in /usr/share/gosa/include/php_setup.inc on line 80
[21:28] <jrib> !fixres > klenz1
[21:28] <mrmoney> hello all
[21:28] <baz_> konquerer is the web browser in kde, not ubuntu??
[21:28] <arleslie> toni_: Ask your question, wait for someone to reply, if no one replies then no one knows the answer, if you have someone helping you please wait for them to reply, if you have been helped before don't get mad if they don't know what you've done before.
[21:28] <baz_> i mean not firefox
[21:29] <mrmoney> are there any ubuntu developers in this room, or is it best to just submit a bug to launchpad?
[21:29] <mzz> baz_: sort of (you can run them the other way around, they'll feel a little out of place if you do)
[21:29] <mzz> mrmoney: yes to both, probably :)
[21:29] <SD391> possible to auto mount these hard drives without having to click on them everytime i boot?
[21:29] <jrib> mrmoney: if it's a bug, submit a bug
[21:29] <|stevenv|> ciao a tutti
[21:29] <mrmoney> well, it's an issue with the 180 version of the nvidia driver for the dell xps 153-
[21:29] <mrmoney> 1530*
[21:30] <toni_> will you plese help  me try to find out how to get remote desk top to work the right way plese .and thank you
[21:30] <mzz> SD391: I don't know a pretty gui way to do that. Editing fstab still works.
[21:30] <ikonia> mrmoney: are you sure, I'm on that laptop
[21:30] <|stevenv|> !list
[21:30] <taggart_> konquerer is the DEFAULT browser in KDE, switching your default browser to firefox is easy, though
[21:30] <mrmoney> the 173 version works perfectly, but the 180 version has severe issues
[21:30] <jrib> mrmoney: just state your issue
[21:30] <arleslie> SD391, you can make a .sh script to have it run on start up
[21:30] <mrmoney> it basically doesn't refresh the page properly. if you know what i mean.
[21:30] <baz_> mzz, i mean new to kubuntu, installed it on my laptop, is konquerer a proper browser? does it have plugins or anything?
[21:31] <mrmoney> like, you'll be in openoffice, and the icons have disappeared, and when you mouse over them, they appear
[21:31] <patrick_> Hello ?
[21:31] <ikonia> patrick_: hi
[21:31] <mzz> baz_: I'm not familiar with konqueror, but afaik it's a pretty decent browser these days (and yes, takes standard nsapi plugins)
[21:31] <patrick_> oh
[21:31] <patrick_> this is wierd
[21:31] <patrick_> im new here
[21:31] <JoAnneThrax> I'd probably ignore conqueror
[21:31] <patrick_> just trying it out
[21:31] <Out_Cold> if i want to have 2 different ubuntu OS's can i use the same swap and boot??
[21:31] <FloodBot1> patrick_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <SD391> thanks guys
[21:31] <OttifantSir> toni_: If you have access to the machine you're trying to control, go to it, open System->Preferences->External Desktop. In that program, do the following: Check "Allow other users to view your desktop" and "Allow other users to control your desktop" if it's not already. Then uncheck "Confirm access to this machine" and check "Require user to type this password" and give a password.
[21:31] <mzz> baz_: you can just run both browsers side by side and compare what things look like in them
[21:31] <toni_> does anybody know how to work the remote desktop for the ubuntu linux 9.04
[21:32] <mrmoney> so... it's not a huge issue, because 173 works fine. the problem is that it recommends 180 under administration>hardware drivers, and clearly, this is not a driver to be recommended
[21:32] <Out_Cold> toni_, readd up ^^
[21:32] <stovicek> toni_: I believe OttifantSir does
[21:32] <mzz> Out_Cold: swap: yes, although you have to be a little careful if you use suspend-to-disk. boot: yes, although you'll have to be a little careful that one doesn't destroy the other's grub or kernel settup.
[21:32] <mzz> setup, even.
[21:32] <baz_> so just to know how much of a chance i should give it... KUBUNTU USERS: do you normally install and use firefox or keep konquerer?
[21:32] <jrib> !polls | baz_
[21:32] <mzz> baz_: there might be a #kubuntu to ask that. Not sure.
[21:33] <garoto> Hiya, when i'm accessing an NFS share on my network and there's some transfer my G7 logitech mouse stutters. Anyone ever come across this?
[21:33] <mzz> baz_: but yeah, what ubottu said.
[21:33] <jrib> mrmoney: I would chec... or just leave after asking your question.  That works too.
[21:33] <Out_Cold> mzz, i don't use the suspend often... but the boot was my biggest concern.. will the 9.04 adjust settings correctly with the install script?
[21:33] <baz_> oh ok sorry
[21:33] <garoto> Seems to be only when caching thumbs or something.
[21:33] <ikonia> garoto: poor NFS performance can lag a machine sometimes,
[21:33] <jrib> baz_: if you really want people's opinions on that I guess #ubuntu-offtopic would be an okay place to discuss it
[21:33] <Out_Cold> baz_, i use both
[21:34] <garoto> ikonia: Seems to only lag my mouse.. amnything I can do to stop it?
[21:34] <baz_> ok thanks jrib
[21:34] <Out_Cold> baz_, sometimes the konqueror doesn't stand up to the job
[21:34] <ikonia> garoto: off the top of my head, no. But with thought, I'm sure it could be worked out.
[21:34] <sjmulder> I've written UNR to my thumbdrive and in live mode it works great, but I can't save any settings or data. Can I make it so that it's like a full installation but on the USB drive, so I can take 'my Linux' with me?
[21:34] <baz_> Out_Cold, so because its nicely integrated u use it, but when it fails you use firefox?
[21:34] <ikonia> garoto: really unusual problem
[21:35] <garoto> ikonia: k cheers, I'll look into it.
[21:35] <Out_Cold> baz_, correct
[21:35] <Andy80> ikonia: installed, but it cannot find updates for installed extension... what was that trick to avoid this checking at startup?
[21:35] <ericP> ikonia, no CD burner -- when asking the update manager to go from 7.04 to 7.1, it stops after saying that it can't find the release notes
[21:35] <toni_> i dont know what i am doing
[21:35] <unitedpotsmokers> guys, good eveing, i had a trouble to surf certain web at school, then i need i software which can bypass firewall, or change ip automatically, i newbie here..
[21:35] <toni_> i need help
[21:35] <Out_Cold> baz_, join offtopic and i'll tell you more
[21:35] <arleslie> sjmulder, If you have a big enough USB drive you should be able to
[21:35] <ikonia> Andy80: pardon, I don't know what your problem is
[21:35] <andrew__> good afternoon
[21:35] <arleslie> !ask | toni_
[21:35] <ericP> ikonia, sources.list is probably hosed -- upgrade can't find anything
[21:35] <ikonia> ericP: how are you updating to 7.10 ?
[21:36] <ikonia> ericP: you don't change your sources.list
[21:36] <ikonia> !upgrade > ericP
[21:36] <sjmulder> arleslie: it's 16 GB, got it especially for this purpose. is there some guide, site to get me started?
[21:36] <Out_Cold> mzz, do you know if the 9.04 installer will keep my last grub safe?
[21:36] <ikonia> ericP: be aware 7.04 and 7.10 are now on the "old-release.ubuntu.com" server
[21:36] <eino1> help! at the "Applications Places System" menu I have under the System only "about gnome" and "about ubuntu", how can I remove the System menu?
[21:36] <arleslie> sjmulder, just install ubuntu like you would normally but select the USB drive
[21:36] <andrew__> slart:  you here?
[21:36] <mzz> Out_Cold: I haven't tried the regular installer, but using the alt installer I managed to not overwrite my existing grub.
[21:36] <mzz> Out_Cold: I don't really remember how much hassle doing that was
[21:37] <ericP> ikonia, was trying upgrade via the update manager UI. will look at urls now. thanks
[21:37] <sjmulder> arleslie: I imagine running into some problems when installing from USB to the same USB drive, like having a  double installation
[21:37] <Out_Cold> mzz, ok well i mean if you don't break your system, you weren't trying hard enough right? lol
[21:37] <toni_> I HATE ALL YOU DUME ASS PEOLE
[21:37] <Out_Cold> gj jrib
[21:37] <sjmulder> arleslie: should I just install it from CD on another computer?
[21:37] <andrew__> what's a dume ass peole?
[21:37] <ikonia> andrew__: lets move on please.
[21:38] <Out_Cold> don't ask andrew__
[21:38] <OttifantSir> toni_: From what you told me in a PM, you don't have a link between the two computers. They are both connected to a modem without a private, in-house network/being routed. Therefore, you have to go out on the Net and back to the machine you wish to control. To do this, you need to set up VPN, and that you have to ask someone else about. Or get a router.
[21:39] <Out_Cold> ok.. well going to try the live 9.04 install.... bbl
[21:39] <Out_Cold> thanks mzz
[21:40] <eino1> help! at the "Applications Places System" menu I have under the System only "about gnome" and "about ubuntu", how can I remove the System menu?
[21:41] <andrew__> this rules!  I'm running several apps on different desktops and compriz fusion with the cube and many effects enabled and I'm only using about 330MB Ram...whoohoo
[21:41] <ericdb> I'm using Jaunty, and trying to turn off the feature where tapping in the upper (or lower) right corner does a middle (or right) click...I hate it.  Everything I can find with Google and in man pages says to change options in xorg.conf...but mine doesn't even have an Input section for synaptics.  Is this done in a different place in Jaunty?
[21:41] <OttifantSir> jrib: I wish I could type a bit faster. Then he probably could have seen the answer before he got kicked. And too sad that it was his own inexperience that didn't even allow him to see that he was in error.
[21:42] <ikonia> linuxguy2009: hi, looks good
[21:43] <andrew__> someone say something cool
[21:43] <stovicek> something cool
[21:43] <ikonia> andrew__: check the /topic of the channel
[21:44] <andrew__> I knew that was coming
[21:44] <andrew__> ikonia:  where do I check for the topic?
[21:44] <ikonia> andrew__: type "/topic" without "
[21:44] <hilfmir-> hi
[21:45] <hilfmir-> is any of you guys using gocr?
[21:45] <linuxguy2009> ikonia: thanks for your help!
[21:45] <eino1> elp! at the "Applications Places System" menu I have under the System only "about gnome" and "about ubuntu", how can I remove the System menu?
[21:46] <masquerade> i get an error when burning a dvd
[21:46] <linuxguy2009> eino1:  Why would you want to remove the system menu? Why not simply limit the user privs so they just cant use those tools.
[21:46] <masquerade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/223017/
[21:46] <OttifantSir> eino1: Don't repeat too fast. If people don't know the answer, noone will answer you. Ask again later, and have patience. In the meantime, look at what's being discussed. It can be really educational.
[21:46] <andrew__> I think he said he only has "about" menus...no usable tools
[21:46] <taggart_> what happened to the "preferences" "administration" lock screen, logout and shutdown commands under the the system menu?
[21:47] <hilfmir-> any of you guys using gocr? I can't seem to get a single correct character recognised
[21:47] <eino1> linuxguy2009: I moved the Control Center to Applications menu and I want to remove the System menu to save taskbar space :)
[21:47] <hilfmir-> it just outputs garbage
[21:47] <hilfmir-> I do the exact same thing in my vmware virtual machine with windows XP and it works like a charm
[21:47] <hilfmir-> looks like my charset and so on are correct
[21:47] <hilfmir-> no idea what's going on
[21:47] <andrew__> hilfmir:  I don't know what gocr is, but I was having a similar problem with vi, so I used pico instead
[21:48] <linuxguy2009> eino1: I dont belive that the gnome-menu-bar applet supports hiding menus.
[21:48] <hilfmir-> gocr is a program
[21:48] <hilfmir-> for
[21:48] <rudy> hi
[21:48] <hilfmir-> optical character recognition
[21:48] <andrew__> then i was of no help...sorry
[21:48] <hilfmir-> sounds like it's the best one by far so I can't simply switch to a different app
[21:48] <Guest94269> where can I download the animation plugin for compiz
[21:49] <eino1> linuxguy2009 are you sure?
[21:49] <world_ate_jimmy> WTF!?
[21:49] <andrew__> guest94269:  use synaptic package manager...that's what I did.
[21:49] <linuxguy2009> eino1: Pretty sure. Im sure if there was a way someone would have yelled by now. hehe
[21:49] <Guest94269> I don't know where to download animation.tar.gz
[21:49] <world_ate_jimmy> Some linux partition appeared when running TestDisk and rebuilding my partition table
[21:50] <kjkjava> hey, if I am not root, why am I allowed to rm a file with 444 permissions
[21:50] <linuxguy2009> eino1: Maybe try the gnome-menu-button applet instead? its only 1 icon wide.
[21:50] <jrk0000> hello
[21:50] <linuxguy2009> eino1:gnome-main-menu I mean
[21:50] <andrew__> kjkjava:  you used "sudo"?
[21:50] <eino1> linuxguy2009 how can I try it?
[21:50] <kjkjava> andrew__: nope
[21:50] <kjkjava> andrew__: I am the owner though...
[21:51] <linuxguy2009> eino1: right click your panel and add to panel to add and remove applets
[21:51] <mzz> kjkjava: permissions on the dir
[21:51] <Nemesiss1> quit:
[21:51] <andrew__> kjkjava: perhaps at the beginning of your session you chose to enable your administrative priviledges for the entire session
[21:51] <eino1> linuxguy2009 wow that is compact! thanks :)
[21:51] <jrk0000> i have problem with wubi. it cant dowload iso so i dowloaded it myself and put into appropriate directory
[21:51] <chantal> je dois t'écrire ici?
[21:51] <linuxguy2009> eino1: Your welcome.
[21:52] <mzz> !french
[21:52] <OttifantSir> !fr | chantal
[21:52] <kjkjava> andrew__: don't know how tod ot hat
[21:52] <jrk0000> when i run wubi one more time it says it has to uninstal previous version
[21:52] <Intertricity2> Where can I find docs on doing an ultrafast boot / hibernate on my laptop?
[21:52] <Guest81021> i have downlound vnc and it is not working .i have been trying to use the remote desktop to get into my outher pc that also has ubuntu linux 9.04.
[21:52] <kjkjava> mzz: cool - directory permissions always confused me... I'll research it
[21:52] <Guest81021> does anybody know what to do
[21:52] <f1assistance> what key stroke do I have when my machine freezes to end processes, like ctrl/alt/delete in Windows?
[21:52] <linuxguy2009> Intertricity2: Should have hybernate and suspend in shutdown menu.
[21:53] <andrew__> kjkjava: when you first attempred to do anything that needed admin righs, it asked you for your ppassword...within that window is a checkbox for keeping admin rights for the whole session
[21:53] <mzz> kjkjava: if you have write perms to the dir and it's not "sticky" you can delete files in there even if they're not yours
[21:53] <Guest81021> any yall help me
[21:53] <mzz> andrew__: nothing that drastic is necessary to explain this
[21:53] <OttifantSir> Guest81021: Are they connected on a router?
[21:53] <kjkjava> andrew__ I'm in a console
[21:53] <andrew__> kjkjava: try logging out and logging back in, or even rebooting entirely
[21:53] <Guest81021> no
[21:53] <VCoolio> f1assistance: alt+sysrq+k = back to login window
[21:53] <andrew__> my bad guys
[21:53] <mzz> andrew__: err, rebooting is severe overkill
[21:53] <andrew__> sorry
[21:54] <MaskedDriver> Guest81021, are they behind a firewall?
[21:54] <kjkjava> ty
[21:54] <VCoolio> f1assistance: alt+sysrq+ r e i s u b  = reboot
[21:54] <linuxguy2009> Guest81021: Are you using the default remote desktop viewer in gnome?
[21:54] <Intertricity2> linuxguy2009: my 8.04 install doesn't seem to support it very well :\
[21:54] <Guest81021> 2 wiregateway modem from at&t]
[21:54] <Guest81021> i dont know
[21:54] <linuxguy2009> Intertricity2: Yeah thats one of those things that either works or it dont. Maybe an update will fix it later on or maybe on 9.10,
[21:55] <MaskedDriver> Guest81021, that has a built-in firewall... you'll have to open your VNC port for the 'puter with the VNC server
[21:55] <OttifantSir> Guest81021: You don't have a link between the two computers. They are both connected to a modem without a private, in-house network/being routed. Therefore, you have to go out on the Net and back to the machine you wish to control. To do this, you need to set up VPN, or get a router.
[21:55] <roky> connect irc.arnes.si
[21:55] <MaskedDriver> OttifantSir, I have the same modem... it's a built-in router/firewall
[21:55] <andrew__> sorry guys...for me trying to help someone figure something out is part of my own learning process...I'll but out
[21:55] <Intertricity2> linuxguy2009: hmmmm :\ thanks so much for the help
[21:55] <jeffwheeler> What's the simplest way on 9.04 to listen to microphone input and just rebroadcast through the speakers?
[21:55] <jeffwheeler> 9.04 uses pulseaudio by default, correct?
[21:56] <OttifantSir> MaskedDriver: Sorry then.
[21:56] <linuxguy2009> Intertricity2: welcome
[21:56] <f1assistance> VCoolio: so you can't end a program thats not responding just reboot?
[21:56] <Guest81021> i just said i got vnc
[21:56] <Guest81021> but it is not working
[21:56] <tyranos> i was using sftp and typed ! to escape to shell how do i get back to sftp
[21:56] <MaskedDriver> Guest81021, of course not... not if the firewall is blocking the vnc port
[21:56] <linuxguy2009>  f1assistance: you can use the System Monitor to kill a process.
[21:56] <VCoolio> f1assistance: to end program open system monitor or use 'xkill' and click the window or use terminal
[21:57] <Guest81021> how can i get it to now block it
[21:57] <poseidon> !frostwire
[21:57] <mzz> has anyone (possibly using intel kms) seen the system slowly starting to use swap even though there's no obvious reason for it?
[21:57] <Adlai> Hi, I'm trying to navigate away from GNOME, and I have no idea where to put various commands. (ie where various init files are)
[21:57] <klenz> ok i have a dell vostro 200 and i seeem to only be able to run it in low graphics mode and when i go to hardware drivers it says there are none availble what can i do...here is a lspci out put http://pastebin.com/m1ec46501
[21:57] <klenz> i meant nothing is working no sound nothing i thought dell and ubuntu play nice/
[21:57] <f1assistance> VCoolio: the system is frozen...nothing works...
[21:57] <linuxguy2009> klenz: You on 9.04?
[21:58] <mzz> f1assistance: it's occasionally possible to ssh in and kill thing sor restart X
[21:58] <VCoolio> f1assistance: if really nothing works use alt+sysrq+ r e i s u b (type reisub with 1 sec between each)
[21:58] <Adlai> Where can I find the various keyboard mappings that I had leftover from GNOME configurations?
[21:59] <klenz> linuxguy2009: yes
[21:59] <VCoolio> f1assistance: first try if ctrl+alt+f1 gets you into terminal to end processes
[21:59] <ahorner> Hi, I want to create a script that allows me to drag and drop a file onto a launcher, posts the file as a multipard/form-data to a remote php script, then returns the output of the php script.
[22:00] <linuxguy2009> klenz: If 9.04 gives you issues then maybe try the tried and true LTS release. 8.04.3 was released last week I believe.
[22:00] <klenz> linuxguy2009: do i need to use the special dell install cd?
[22:00] <andrew__> I <ctrl><alt>f1 last night and got a black screen I could not get out of...ended up powering down and rebooting
[22:00] <Ergo^> where do i find docs on the "encrypt..." feature in nautilus ?
[22:00] <Adlai> Any tips on setting up stumpwm and Ubunut?
[22:00] <Adlai> *Ubuntu
[22:00] <qbrix> I'm running a vanilla install of Ubuntu Server and I was wondering what is the most lightweight X package I can use?
[22:01] <Dr_willis> andrew__:  alt-ctrl-delete prroberly would of rebooted also
[22:01] <gogeta> qbrix: the most light is no window manager
[22:01] <mzz> gogeta: that rarely works though
[22:01] <andrew__> dr_willis: thanks...had no Idea what I had done...still don't
[22:01] <qbrix> ya, how would I get that?
[22:01] <ahorner> qbrix: xfce?
[22:01] <qbrix> what do I install
[22:01] <gogeta> qbrix: lxde
[22:01] <mzz> err?
[22:01] <mzz> lxde most definitely contains a window manager
[22:01] <gogeta> mzz: what using xinit works on anything
[22:01] <mzz> I forgot which *box it was
[22:01] <Dr_willis> andrew__:  went to the console.. no idea whyit was messed up. ya shou.d of seen a LOGIN: prompt
[22:02] <gogeta> mzz: yea ut its light
[22:02] <gogeta> lighter then xfce
[22:02] <mzz> gogeta: not exactly convenient unless whatever you're running opens its initial window at a convenient size and hardly uses any secondary windows
[22:02] <andrew__> dr_willis...lemme try...brb
[22:02] <qbrix> nothing lighter?
[22:02] <linuxman410> is there a support channel for ubuntu-one
[22:02] <mzz> gogeta: I think you have window managers and desktop environments mixed up
[22:02] <qbrix> I don't need taskbars or any gadget
[22:02] <Dr_willis> jwm is a light window manager
[22:02] <gogeta> mzz: blackbox
[22:02] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  explore the package managers search feature
[22:02] <Ergo^> where do i find docs on the "encrypt..." feature in nautilus ? i want to encrypt one dir
[22:02] <gogeta> thers alot ouut there
[22:02] <mzz> qbrix: some people like jwm. I'd use one of the lightweight tiling wms myself, like ratpoison, dwm or musca
[22:03] <erUSUL> !encfs
[22:03] <qbrix> but what is the basic X framwork?
[22:03] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  what about it?
[22:03] <gogeta> qbrix: xorg
[22:03] <qbrix> how do I install just that
[22:03] <qbrix> aha, ya xorg
[22:03] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  you did a server install?
[22:04] <gogeta> qbrix: just apt-get install xorg
[22:04] <qbrix> Dr_willis: yes
[22:04] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  why....
[22:04] <triptik> hi all!
[22:04] <reeher> Peace
[22:04] <qbrix> testing something out....
[22:04] <triptik> i have a problem with video for linux
[22:04] <A-KO> Does anyone know the purpose of the default configuration for Apache to specify rules for <Directory /> ? I'm unsure as to why it specifies that....
[22:04] <triptik> i'm trying install v4l2 in a kubuntu jaunty
[22:04] <gogeta> qbrix: then to start a base only xinit
[22:04] <erUSUL> qbrix: you need at least a window manager... install fluxbox or something like that
[22:05] <triptik> with a 2.6.28-13 kernel
[22:05] <qbrix> can I not run a single program without a window manager?
[22:05] <triptik> how can i install v4l2 kernel module?
[22:05] <Adlai> Still no ideas regarding migrating from GNOME to StumpWM on Ubunt 9.04?
[22:05] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  yes you can
[22:05] <gogeta> qbrix: yes as i said
[22:05] <NorthByNorthWest> I have to ask... is editing the fstab file still the only way to permanently mount smb shared folders to a local folder???
[22:05] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  make a .xinitrc that runs the app... and just the app.. then use 'startx' from console  done
[22:06] <gogeta> Dr_willis: or xinit
[22:06] <qbrix> oh cool, thanks
[22:06] <notmike> why isn't this command working sh -c "echo -n 'mypassword' > /etc/ldapscripts/ldapscripts.passwd"
[22:06] <Dr_willis> qbrix:  enable the alt-ctrl-backspace to kill X feature also.. or ya can get stuck
[22:06] <Dr_willis> !dontzap | qbrix
[22:06] <gogeta> Dr_willis: not relly ctrl alt f2
[22:07] <gogeta> Dr_willis: ir type exit from xinit
[22:07] <Dr_willis> gogeta:  if that works.. or may not..
[22:07] <qbrix> but I have ssh running, so I could kill it remotely
[22:07] <erUSUL> notmike: you need sudo  in front of it ?
[22:07] <Dr_willis> running with no window manager.. is a hassle
[22:07] <notmike> I'm in as root
[22:07] <shorterror> what is the shell command to clear cache
[22:07] <Dr_willis> and if you are sotight  on ram you cant run JWM.. go get more ram
[22:08] <gogeta> Dr_willis: naa its easy if you dont ned a fancy broswer you can use framebuffer links2 gui
[22:08] <gogeta> Dr_willis: as well as mplayer
[22:08] <gogeta> Dr_willis: and mc
[22:08] <gogeta> awsom text setup
[22:08] <notmike> its saying bash: my password: event not found
[22:09] <Dr_willis> done it befor gogeta .. its a hassle..  jwm is trivial amount of ram.. or use fluxbox, or some other little thing
[22:09] <world_ate_jimmy> anyone has experience with TestDisk? there's something weird with the partitions found with it
[22:09] <Dr_willis> lots of hassle for no real gain. :)
[22:09] <Flannel> notmike: Are you sure you're using '' and not ``?
[22:09] <notmike> yes, very sure
[22:09] <gogeta> Dr_willis: to each his own i guess
[22:09] <Adlai>  
[22:09] <Adlai> ERC>
[22:09] <Adlai> oops, sorry.
[22:10] <shorterror> what is the shell command to clear cache
[22:10] <gogeta> Dr_willis: just adding vga and your res to grub isnt hard
[22:10] <iceroot> shorterror: sudo apt-get clean
[22:10] <gogeta> enables the framebuffer
[22:10] <Dr_willis> gogeta:  now you are talking about the framebuffer... thats a whole different set of hassles ive found
[22:10] <gogeta> Dr_willis: never had a issue
[22:11] <iceroot> shorterror: deleting the apt-cache
[22:11] <gogeta> Dr_willis: alot of good apps suupporting framebufer but no good broswer
[22:11] <shorterror> iceroot, thank you
[22:11] <gogeta> Dr_willis: i even knoe a text based pidgin
[22:11] <Dr_willis> gogeta:  count yoruself lucy then.   someone was just in here moments ago with framebuffer issues..
[22:12] <gogeta> Dr_willis: heh one of my works pc they whont let me install x so i use framebuffer
[22:12] <hilfmir-> hi
[22:12] <gogeta> Dr_willis: redhat entirprise edtion
[22:13] <orogor> hi here
[22:14] <andrew__> hello
[22:14] <Dr_willis> Hell0
[22:15] <andrew__> dr_willis: tried <ctrl><alt>f1...totally black screen...hd to reboot...<ctrl><alt>del worked for reboot
[22:15] <gogeta> Dr_willis: my boss abought died when she saw it playing a movie lol
[22:15] <mrmoney> i think the biggest issue with ubuntu is a lack of support for many printers.
[22:15] <orogor> anyone around is a bit skilled with linux i got a big problem i reformated my /boot as ext4 and now i can t boot anymore, there might also be some  mojo to do as the system partition is on raid 10 , to make things more amusing , obviousely the live cd doesn t have ext4 support
[22:15] <orogor> ... anyone has a solution ?
[22:15] <Dr_willis> andrew__:  you may want to try disabling the framebuffer if you plan on using the consoles - also alt-ctrlf7 should get you back to X.
[22:16] <gogeta> orogor: the ubuntu 9.04 live cd does haave ext4 support
[22:16] <andrew__> dr_willis: ok...thanks
[22:16] <Dr_willis> !frambuffer | andrew__
[22:16] <orogor> gogeta: humm do you think i can go away witjhotu downloading a full cd ?
[22:16] <Dr_willis> !fbdev | andrew__
[22:16] <Dr_willis> Hmm cleaned out the factoids it seems
[22:17] <orogor> like modprobe ext4 upport into current live cd
[22:17] <orogor> i was thinking to that ,just need to find a compatible .ko
[22:17] <Clem_15> Hi I have searched around on-line for quite awhile and I cant seem to find a definite answer to the problem i seem to keep having, I have ubuntu 9.04 installed and upon boot i keep reviving the notification "ACPI: expecting a [Reference] package element, found type 0" does anyone know anything about this?
[22:17] <gogeta> andrew__: are you using the vesa oe vga option to init the famebuffer switching them might fix the issue
[22:17] <world_ate_jimmy> anyone has experience with TestDisk? there's something weird with the partitions found with it
[22:17] <Adlai> Anybody know whether it's possible to use StumpWM with Ubuntu?
[22:17] <Dr_willis> orogor:  therss some small ubuntu live cd/variants out..
[22:17] <Dr_willis> !info stumpwm
 what's your internal IP address?
 which VNC server did you d/l?
 idk
 idk
 did you install a VNC server or client?
 i think the sever
[22:17] <Dr_willis> Adlai:  proberly is possible..
[22:18] <andrew__> dr_willis: gogeta:  no idea what you guys mean...sorry...newbie here
[22:18] <Jerusalem420_> is there a program thats in the ubuntu repository for stripping the sound out of an .avi file?
[22:18] <Adlai> Dr_willis: I don't think it's impossible. I'm on stumpwm right now, on Ubuntu.
[22:18] <Adlai> It's just a pain to get in here.
[22:18] <gogeta> andrew__: to init the frame buffer you must aadd that to grub
[22:18] <gogeta> ubuntu does not use it by defult
[22:18] <Dr_willis> Adlai:  i said it was possible.
 \i need to remote ass to the laptop
[22:18] <Adlai> hm, misread.
[22:18] <Guest81021> <Guest81
[22:18] <Guest81021> this is what i need help
[22:19] <losher> Jerusalem420_: try avidemux
[22:19] <Guest81021> does anybody know how to do this
[22:19] <OttifantSir> Jerusalem420_: FFmpeg and Mencoder are both able to do it. I believe there's even some options in WinFF, GUI for FFmpeg, that can do it.
[22:19] <trae> is there not a viable non-OWA exchange connection for Ubuntu?  I've tried evolution-mapi but it's dying on me on 9.04
[22:19] <Dr_willis> Adlai:  not in the repos it seems.. so that makes it a litte harder for the guy
[22:19] <Jerusalem420_> thanks losher and otti
[22:19] <Guest81021> does anybody really know how to work the remote desktop
[22:19] <andrew__> what to add to grub...where to find grub....what to use to add to grub...see what I mean about newbie sta
[22:20] <ReedMace> Does anyone have any experience using dmraid with Promise Fastrak controller?
 what's your internal IP address?
 which VNC server did you d/l?
 idk
 idk
 did you install a VNC server or client?
[22:20] <Adlai> Dr_willis: I'm used to getting stuff that's not in the repos, the problem is setting up the various init files.
 i think the sever
[22:20] <gogeta> Dr_willis: lol he doesent even have the framebuffer on LOL
 did you follow instructions somewhere?
[22:20] <Dr_willis> Grub is very well documented at teh grub homepage. :)  it pays to learn teh basics of grub.
 cause they don't "just work" out of box
 people are telling me what to do and i am doing it
 I'd follow a step-by-step instruction manual
 are you doing everything through the gnome or terminal?
 i dont care how i do it .i need to do it
 are you trying to get to server command line or xserver?
[22:20] <gogeta> !fbdev
 i have also ask what is the best way to do it .and so i do it
 i also dont know
 i just need the best way to do it ok
 I need to know what you're trying to accomplish with it
 i dont care how
[22:20] <FloodBot1> Guest81021: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <Dr_willis> gogeta:  ive seen some X video drivers also affect the console on some cards/setups. seems to be 'ati' that causes a lot of issues.
[22:20] <gogeta> yea
[22:21] <OttifantSir> Guest81021: toni, you have to open port 5900 in the modem you've connected the computers to. Usually, 192.168.0.1 in a web-browser gets you into the config of your router/modem.
[22:21] <trae> !op?
[22:21] <taylor> Are there any alternate ways of sharing internet connection
[22:21] <Dr_willis> Guest81021 - perhaps clarify the problem.. and do it on ONE LINE.. not pasteing a past conversation
[22:21] <trae> ops?
[22:21] <boss_mc> how best to go about writing a database app in ubuntu?  Would I need to install a complete LAMP setup or is there a simpler way?
[22:21] <david__> wtf?
[22:22] <trae> we were flooded...
[22:22] <gogeta> andrew__: http://www.savvyadmin.com/console-framebuffer-in-ubuntu/
[22:22] <taylor> Are there any alternate ways of sharing internet connection
[22:22] <erUSUL> !inetsharing
[22:22] <taylor> or could someone assist me with setting up IP tables
[22:23] <gogeta> andrew__: but you relly whont need it unless you plain on using mplayer or links with gui
[22:23] <david__>  !inetsharing what is it?
[22:23] <OttifantSir> Dr_willis, MaskedDriver: Guest81021 is toni_ , and he's been here for a while trying to get remote desktop to work. However, he doesn't want to try what he is told, or he simply is too stubborn to acknowledge people's help when it's given.
[22:23] <ReedMace> I've activated my Promise Fastrak RAID system with dmraid, but dmraid seems to be reporting two RAIDsets instead on one with two disks
[22:23] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | taylor
[22:23] <andrew__> gogeta:  will be using mplayer as soon as I can get it to actually play dvds
[22:24] <dug> I have a harddrive that is only 89% in use but it says no space left on device?
[22:24] <gogeta> andrew__: then you need to add the medibuntu repo
[22:24] <erUSUL> dug: maybe it is too fragmented ? also 5% by default is reserved for superuser
[22:24] <gogeta> andrew__: to enable dvd playback
[22:25] <dug> how to I unfragment the drive?
[22:25] <andrew__> gogeta:  can I add with synaptic?
[22:25] <Dr_willis> dug:  what filesystem is the drive?
[22:25] <dug> ext4
[22:25] <ReedMace> dug: I just had that as well - turned out to be hidden files
[22:25] <Dr_willis> dug:  simple answer.. you dont.. 5% is reserved for 'root' normally however...
[22:25] <gogeta> andrew__: wait if you have a gui why do you whant the console
[22:26] <eino1> im trying to mount my 750gb hdd and it says "Unable to mount volume 'Media' Error
[22:26] <eino1> Failed to read last sector 1465143992
[22:26] <eino1> how can I mount it? :O
[22:26] <gogeta> andrew__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[22:26] <andrew__> gogeta:  Just learning as much as I can
[22:26] <dug> Dr_willis: but then why is 11% unavailible ?
[22:26] <Dr_willis> dug:  no idea. hidden porn?
[22:26] <jjbluesam> HEllo?
[22:27] <dug> Dr_willis: ha.... its a server
[22:27] <Dr_willis> when a drive gets to be 90% full .. its time to start celaning house.. or getting a extra hd.
[22:27] <jjbluesam> Anybody wanna chat with me?
[22:27] <dug> new install..
[22:27] <gogeta> andrew__: i beleve mplayer and totem use the same plugins
[22:27] <Dr_willis> dug:  a new install thats 90% full? you defainatly needed a bigger hd to begin with then it seems
[22:27]  * jjbluesam wants to chat
[22:27] <gogeta> andrew__: so adding the plugins should enable it on totem as well
[22:27] <Dr_willis> dug:  or you totally misspartioned it.
[22:28] <losher> jjbluesam: wrong room. This isn't a social channel. We do computer support...
[22:28] <dug> Dr_willis: desktop install with auto partitioning
[22:28] <Dr_willis> jjbluesam:  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:28] <andrew__> gogeta:  cool thanks
[22:28] <gogeta> andrew__: the sites tells youu what to install
[22:28] <andrew__> gogeta:  excellent
[22:28] <Jimmio> Hello all, what's the command line method of selecting all available software sources minus CD-ROM?
[22:29] <ReedMace> dug: try turning on hidden files in Nautilus, then use Disk Usage Analyser to detect where the space is being used.
[22:29] <losher> Jimmio: if I understand what you're asking, it's done by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:29] <Dr_willis> dug:  i would suggest ya pastbin the outputs of 'sudo fdisk -l' ' df -h ' and proberly some other commands for the channel to take a look at...     You can use the tune2fs command to  get 5% back to be used by users.
[22:30] <frostburn> dug, do a lsof|grep deleted
[22:30] <Jimmio> losher: I mean enabling the community sources and such. Is there a simple command for it? If not, it's no big deal, but it would just be nice to setup Ubuntu boxes with a simple command or two then use a mouse at all o.o
[22:31] <Dr_willis> Jimmio:  you could always  edit/make a soruces.list that has everything enabled you want on all the box's and then just copy it over to the other box's
[22:32] <dug> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/m2eeb4fb2
[22:32] <losher> Jimmio: Are you talking about bulk installing lots of systems with minimal manual intervention?
[22:32] <ShorTie> hey guys
[22:33] <ShorTie> trying to redo xine and make a new libxine1
[22:33] <Jimmio> losher: More along the lines of "Ahhh... Fresh Ubuntu install on my old PC for testing... install everything by hand? Nahh..."
[22:33] <ShorTie> but when i run checkinstall to make the deb's i get
[22:33] <ShorTie> Unpacking replacement libxine1 ...
[22:33] <ShorTie> dpkg: error processing /usr/local/src/xine-lib/libxine1_1.1.vdpau20090720-0ubuntu2-1_i386.deb (--install):
[22:33] <ShorTie>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xine/libxine1/fonts/mono-20.xinefont.gz', which is also in package libxine1-bin
[22:33] <dug> frostburn: http://pastebin.com/m6a58884
[22:33] <Dr_willis> dug:  and how old is this 'install' ?
[22:34] <OttifantSir> ShorTie: Stop now. Not another line. Pastebin it!
[22:34] <barfoo365> Hi all, i have an ini file i edit for a ubuntu app, but when i reboot, the changes i make are gone, any ideas?
[22:34] <ReedMace> I've activated my Promise Fastrak RAID system (mirror) with dmraid, but the two disks are still shown separately in /dev/mapper/
[22:34] <dug> Dr_willis: 9.04 brand new
[22:34] <OttifantSir> ShorTie: Just a warning. Not a threat.
[22:34] <OttifantSir> !paste > ShorTie
[22:34] <ShorTie> for 3 freaking lines
[22:35] <Dr_willis> dug:  you got somthign REALLY goofy if a brand new in stall of 9.04 is taking up 564 GB of a   687GB  hard drive
[22:35] <frostburn> dug, i see mysqld files, binlogs and something else in /tmp    try restarting mysqld and you should get that space free again,  you can verify by running that lsof or df again
[22:35] <losher> Jimmio: you can generate a list of currently installed packages on your present system, and then use that list to install the same packages on your new system, but you may still have to do some manual config while installing some programs. Foes that help...
[22:35] <losher> Foes -> Does
[22:35] <Dr_willis> dug:  the os only needs like 4gb for a new install....
[22:35] <losher> ShorTie: we're kind of rabid sometimes...
[22:35] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: use the disk analizer to chack where the space is used... maybe a kernel bug or something like that is spamming your logs
[22:35] <ShorTie> no help, just cuse me out
[22:36] <ShorTie> i see how you are
[22:36] <erUSUL> dug: use the disk analizer to chack where the space is used... maybe a kernel bug or something like that is spamming your logs
[22:36] <Dr_willis> erUSUL:  but 560+GB? :)
[22:36] <dug> Dr_willis:  no.... I have zoneminder running on this machine
[22:36] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: sorry
[22:36] <OttifantSir> ShorTie: No, for 5 lines, rapidly close to eachother. If you paste the command output in the channel, the floodbots will eventually kick you. It's to keep the channel open for all help.
[22:36] <losher> ShorTie: you can always ask for your money back...
[22:36] <Dr_willis> erUSUL:  heh im out of ideas also.. :)
[22:36] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: well i have a similar isuue and it took a handfull of GiB once
[22:37] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: ;P
[22:37] <OttifantSir> losher: Please... I was a bit harsh on him already. Don't add injury to insult will you?
[22:37] <losher> OttifantSir: ok, lets give him a break...
[22:38] <erUSUL> dug: well then check the data generated by zoneminder... video/image files can be very big
[22:38] <ShorTie> so out of 1300+ peeps all i get is smartass shit about 3 freaking lines
[22:38] <losher> ShorTie: from the message you pasted, it looks like you're trying to install an already installed file. I think you need to uninstall the existing libxine before you can install your new one. Just a guess...
[22:38] <ShorTie> not much help is it
[22:39]  * defrysk agrees with ShorTie 
[22:39] <Leverage> Can anyone help me with getting a program to work?
[22:39] <linuxguy2009> ShorTie: I just came in the room and looks like your in desperate need of some help. What is the problem/question?
[22:39] <OttifantSir> !details > Leverage
[22:40] <ShorTie> so now losher is gonna make some big fat answer up that means nothing to make himself l00k better
[22:40] <linuxguy2009> nm leave me out of it whatever it is. sorry
[22:40] <Gobby> #join ugliefrog
[22:40] <losher> ShorTie: my apologies. We usually have better manners here.
[22:40] <Gobby> #ugliefrog
[22:40] <ShorTie> i'm sorry linuxguy2009
[22:40] <linuxguy2009> hehe
[22:40] <kreg> at the end of an install, ubuntu did this scan all partitions for entries to add to grub's menu.lst     How can I do that again?
[22:41] <badboy_> portuguese
[22:41] <linuxguy2009> ShorTie: Do you need some help there? Im willing to try.
[22:41] <losher> ShorTie: My advice is good, despite my manners. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...
[22:41] <badboy_> portuguese channel?
[22:41] <erUSUL> !br | badboy_
[22:42] <linuxguy2009> ubottu is multilingual. funny.
[22:42] <badboy_> portugues
[22:42] <lollo3011> lol
[22:42] <hittt> that made sense actually
[22:42] <andrew__> err...a bot would never say that
[22:43] <OttifantSir> ShorTie: I'm sorry I yelled at you. But I did it to help you. As I said, if you paste command outputs in the channel, it gets flooded. And an IRC-channel moves quickly. Sometimes you need to read, and re-read the output to get to where you need to be. That's not really practical. Therefore, pasting it on a website is better.
[22:43] <lollo3011> he's an intellingent bot...
[22:43] <hittt> !intelligent lollo3011
[22:43] <erUSUL> badboy_: /j #ubuntu-br
[22:43] <Leverage> ﻿I'm having a loadlibrary(pythondll) problem. I'm running ubuntu 8.04 hardy. There's an old game i've downloaded (there is a windows and linux version); the windows version has the pythondll error in wine. And i have no idea how to get the linux version working.
[22:43] <ShorTie> i don't mind pastebin for large output
[22:44] <andrew__> but he said he wasn't...error...illogical will robinson
[22:44] <bruenig> Leverage: get the linux version working
[22:44] <badboy_> ola
[22:44] <ShorTie> my error is wrapped up on 3 lines
[22:44] <Leverage> bruenig: brilliant...
[22:44] <badboy_> canal portugues
[22:44] <ShorTie> seems like a waste of bandwidth for 3 freakin lines
[22:44] <linuxguy2009> Leverage: ﻿Try and download a deb installer for ubuntu or else you have to probably make/build one.No idea how that works.
[22:44] <lollo3011> badboy, use #ubuntu-br lol
[22:44] <bruenig> Leverage: that is your solution, now for the googling!
[22:45] <linuxguy2009> Leverage: ﻿Actually some games are distributed with .run extension also.
[22:45] <ShorTie> here is my error if anyone has an idea, kick me if you must!
[22:45] <ShorTie> dpkg: error processing /usr/local/src/xine-lib/libxine1_1.1.vdpau20090720-0ubuntu2-1_i386.deb (--install):
[22:45] <ShorTie>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xine/libxine1/fonts/mono-20.xinefont.gz', which is also in package libxine1-bin
[22:45] <ShorTie> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[22:46] <Leverage> There is an exe that comes in a zip file, but it says its the linux version
[22:46] <FloodBot3> ShorTie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <hittt> this is bannable
[22:46] <losher> ShorTie: you're starting to look like a slow learner...
[22:46] <bruenig> Leverage: ah, that is incorrect then
[22:46] <OttifantSir> ShorTie: Still, the issue of the channel moving quickly is still there. Better to have a static output, than to have to scroll, and re-scroll back up (in some clients) to where the output was pasted. I see you have gotten a floodbot-warning. Also, please use the nick of the ones you're talking to in your messages.
[22:46] <ikonia> hittt: ?
[22:46]  * kreg pulls up chair for a banning witness
[22:46] <hittt> ?!?
[22:47] <linuxguy2009> ShorTie: Are you trying to upgrade a package, get source code or what exactly?
[22:47] <andrew__> losher: a bit below the belt...don't you think?
[22:47] <hittt> whats wrong ikonia ?
[22:47] <kreg> linux is not for pussies
[22:47] <ReedMace> Third and last time of asking (for now) without an answer in 25 mins. I've activated my Promise Fastrak RAID system (mirror) with dmraid, but the two disks are still shown separately in /dev/mapper/. Anyone know what to do?
[22:47] <linuxguy2009> ShorTie: your using dpkg to manually install a package? Need some details.
[22:47] <ikonia> ok guys - tone it down please
[22:47] <sephy> Is there a way to keep that ANNOYING system beep off for good?
[22:47] <OttifantSir> linuxguy2009: ShorTie is trying to compile from source a new libxine1
[22:47] <losher> andrew__: perhaps. I seem a little cranky today. But review the previous interaction before you judge...
[22:47] <andrew__> losher: I'm a newbie and  A lot of this stuff is way over my head, but I'm no slow learner, and I bet neither is shorty...otherwise he'd still be using windows...right?
[22:48] <linuxguy2009> ShorTie: Sorry man no build experience.
[22:48] <ShorTie> trying to replace libxine1 with a xine that has vdpau in it
[22:48] <defrysk> losher, its time to drop it man
[22:48] <etw62731> sephy: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[22:48] <Leverage> http://necrofamicon.com/Tendrils/ Here's the game, if anyone can get it to work send me a message (its worth it besides)
[22:48] <losher> defrysk: amen...
[22:48] <linuxguy2009> ReedMace: Saw your message and I dont know how to help you sorry.
[22:48] <sephy> etw62731: That only turned it off until restart.
[22:48] <iceroot> i am running ubuntu on fakeraid1, now i want to install win xp on another hdd (non raid) what to do after installing windows with grub? so that grub is writing to the faikraid and detecting ubuntu and win xp?
[22:49] <defrysk> ShorTie, why do you want a newer libxine?
[22:49] <etw62731> sephy: then add the pcspkr module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:49] <ReedMace> linuxguy2009: thanks for the acknowledgement!
[22:49] <ShorTie> i need xine-vdpau
[22:49] <ikonia> iceroot: grub needs to write to a disk, not fake riad
[22:49] <iceroot> ikonia: the disk is a fakeraid array
[22:49] <ikonia> iceroot: fakeraid won't be detected until the kernel has started to boot
[22:49] <linuxguy2009> sephy:System menu, preferences, Sound. Sounds tab, disable alert sound. I think thats what your trying to do. Its the system beep.
[22:49] <defrysk> ShorTie, you use the one from younty ?
[22:49] <defrysk> jaunty
[22:49] <ikonia> iceroot: you need to use the individual disks, not fake raid for grub
[22:49] <iceroot> ikonia: and on which disk grub has to write? raid1 are two disks
[22:49] <burkmat> After installing ubuntu-desktop and attempting to uninstall it by removing every package listed in it (already realized how bad that idea was, but it was my only hope), my system feels a bit like a swiss cheese. Is there any way to easily reinstall packages that were in the default installation, that might have accidentally gotten BBQ'd by my careless deletion?
[22:50] <sephy> linuxguy2009:  ill give it a try
[22:50] <ikonia> iceroot: which ever one your system boots from
[22:50] <iceroot> ikonia: i had installed jaunty with alternate
[22:50] <andrew__> iceroot:  I just installed winxp into virtualbox yesterday without re-partitioning or using other disks
[22:50] <ShorTie> yes, standard install
[22:50] <andrew__> iceroot...works great
[22:50] <iceroot> andrew__: dont need vbox
[22:50] <sephy> linuxguy2009:  thanks alot ;)
[22:50] <iceroot> ikonia: su, grub-update will not work with a live-cd?
[22:50] <defrysk> ShorTie, maybe karmic has what you want, you can compile it with apt-get build-dep
[22:50] <linuxguy2009> sephy: Ah very good. Glad i could help. :)
[22:51] <erUSUL> burkmat: check the ubuntu-* metapackages. ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal etc...
[22:51] <ikonia> iceroot: it will, but you still need to install it to a disk, not the fakeraid device
[22:51] <synfin> How do I install the kernel sources for Ubuntu?  kernel-devel or kernel-sources-devel doesn't work
[22:51] <iceroot> ikonia: ok, thx
[22:51] <defrysk> and stuff
[22:51] <christiann> how can change a line from /proc/version
[22:51] <ShorTie> i've alreadt 'apt-get build-dep'
[22:51] <taylor> Anyone have a guide on how to manage network connections without networkmanager
[22:52] <burkmat> erUSUL, Alright, thanks.
[22:52] <taylor> and the most user-friendly
[22:52] <erUSUL> synfin: is linux-source
[22:52] <erUSUL> !info linux-source | synfin
[22:52] <mbostwick> hello, I am trying to pull out the title of a pdf from meta data but I am stuck on the last part:  for f in *.pdf; do pdftk "$f" dump_data | grep -A 1 "InfoKey: Title"| grep InfoValue| grep ***********I need just the title with I try to use -io InfoKey it gives me the key when I need the title, should I use regex ? ********;done
[22:52] <defrysk> ShorTie, also if you want to install the one you made yourself you first have to uninstall the previous libxine
[22:52] <linuxguy2009> burkmat: After a frsh install you can use Part Image to make a fresh system backup. If you mess stuff up you can restore the system to fresh state in like 3min. Very good practice to make backups.
[22:52] <defrysk> ShorTie, preferabily purge it
[22:52] <etw62731> christiann: that /proc file cannot be written. however you could bind mount a normal (writable) file over it.
[22:52] <CrocoJet> someone knows if avail avidemux 2.5 for 9.04 ?
[22:53] <etw62731> christiann: but why do want to write /proc/version?
[22:53] <christiann> i want change
[22:53] <ShorTie> you uninstall the other, it breaks everything
[22:53] <christiann> "Ubuntu" for another wor
[22:53] <christiann> word*
[22:53] <christiann> just that
[22:53] <ShorTie> gotta install over to
[22:53] <ShorTie> top
[22:53] <etw62731> christiann: but that doesn't change the kernel version
[22:53] <taylor> Anyone know of a user-friendly how-to on managing connections without network manager?
[22:53] <OttifantSir> synfin: I think it's headers, not sources
[22:53] <burkmat> linuxguy2009, Alright, will take a look at that. Sounds like it could really come in handy. :P
[22:53] <christiann> i can read it but when i try to save i can't
[22:53] <christiann> no problem
[22:53] <christiann> just info:)
[22:54] <OttifantSir> synfin: Disregard my last.
[22:54] <linuxguy2009> CrocoJet: Check add/remove or Synaptic, otherwise youll need to look for packages to manually download and install, or find a backport of the version you need.
[22:54] <defrysk> ShorTie, Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options
[22:54] <lancerocke> can anyone help me with virtualbox or point me in the direction of where i can get help via IRC? im having trouble getting sound working in my virtual machine (virtualbox). i installed guest additions and my network/internet is working fine but the sound isnt. i went into the machine's settings and selected every different sound driver  combination (also/soundblaster, pulseaudio/soundblaster etc.) and the sound still isnt working in win
[22:54] <lancerocke> dows
[22:54] <etw62731> christiann: like i said, you bind bind mount a regular file over /proc/version
[22:54] <synfin> !info linux-source
[22:54] <christiann> i cant umount !
[22:55] <etw62731> christiann: i didn't say umount
[22:55] <defrysk> ShorTie, it still might break your libxine tho , so be aware of that
[22:56] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: Are you using the open source Vbox or the one from the website?
[22:56] <liam_> hey any one need help i will do my best
[22:56] <taylor> Anyone know of a user-friendly how-to on managing connections without network manager?
[22:56] <christiann> i dont understand much english, check when i edit the "version" file, i can readit and change but when i try to save says error input or output, so, iam think cuz is in usebut i try to umount, and says its busy so ? can help me?
[22:56] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, the one from the website not opensource
[22:56] <erUSUL> taylor: use another connection manager like wicd or conman ?
[22:56] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: Ok did you recheck ubuntu sound that it is currently functioning?
[22:56] <liam_> taylor, i sugesst wcid
[22:56] <defrysk> taylor, I like wicd
[22:56] <taylor> erUSUL: do they allow multiple connections at the same time?
[22:57] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, yes i played a movie
[22:57] <christiann> i dont understand much english, check when i edit the "version" file, i can readit and change but when i try to save says error input or output, so, iam think cuz is in usebut i try to umount, and says its busy so ? can help me? etw62731
[22:57] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: What does vbox list as audio controllers? And list your settings from the vbos sound tab for me.
[22:57] <etw62731> christiann: cp /proc/version /tmp ; gedit /tmp/version ; sudo mount --bind /tmp/version /proc/version
[22:58] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, wow i just rechecked by playing a movie and my sound isnt working on ubuntu
[22:58] <JetSumifi> Kubuntu FTW!
[22:58] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: Yeah I figured that was prob it.
[22:58] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, what can i do?
[22:58] <losher> christiann: /proc/version is read-only. I don't think you can change it by writing to it...
[22:59] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: Check your speakers are turned on, sound control is not muted and volume is up.
[22:59] <etw62731> losher: look at what i wrote
[22:59] <erUSUL> taylor: i dunno never used them
[22:59] <etw62731> losher: you can't change the /proc file, but can bind-mount it over
[22:59] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, actually i just used another app to open the movie and the sound is working
[22:59] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: ok
[22:59] <taylor> defrysk: does wicd support multiple connections?
[23:00] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: What operating system did you install that sound does not work with? Windows?
[23:00] <christiann> i wwill check it
[23:00] <OttifantSir> CrocoJet: This is absolutely unsupported, and it's a true Personal Packaging Archive, but it's from one of the GetDeb uploaders, so I believe it to be reputable: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa
[23:00] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, windows 7
[23:00] <liam_> anyone need help?
[23:01] <christiann> etw62731
[23:01] <Dekko> Can someone here please tell me why switching workspaces with the scrollwheel seems to have stopped working?? I have to click on them now to change them.
[23:01] <losher> etw62731: I see, though I don't see the point of it. The point of /proc/version is to report the kernel version....
[23:01] <Hilikus> where are iptables rules stored?
[23:01] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: Could possibly be that Windows 7 is not completed yet, and also may not be compatible with Vbox as of yet. Try installing Ubuntu in it and see if that works then you can verify if Vbox sound is working as it should be. My guess is that its not fully Windows 7 ready yet.
[23:01] <lstarnes> Hilikus: in memory
[23:02] <VCoolio> Dekko: is nautilus still drawing the desktop? do you have conky covering the desktop? do you have visual effects enabled?
[23:02] <etw62731> losher: i also don't get what changing that file should be good for
[23:02] <Hilikus> lstarnes mmm i see. i created a LIMIT rule using ufw but i need to change the triggers. any idea how to do that
[23:02] <defrysk> taylor, read all about wicd here: http://wicd.net/
[23:02] <christiann> etw62731 its changed bro but when i tape uname -a its the same xD !
[23:02] <lstarnes> Hilikus: I'm not sure, but I do think that ufw stores its rules somewhere
[23:02] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, i will try but my friend who has the same motherboard did it and has the sound working. i would not have tried windows 7 on vbox if he didnt
[23:03] <etw62731> christiann: that's because uname does not read /proc/version
[23:03] <CrocoJet> OttifantSir, thanks information
[23:03] <christiann> etw62731 i want change when type uname -a dont appear #Ubuntu, appear my line
[23:03] <christiann> :O
[23:03] <linuxguy2009> Dekko: On a default install scrolling on the panel desktop workspace applet does not change workspaces. If you had compiz going and the cube, sphere, cylinder(sp?), then compiz settings may be changed or not loaded/working.
[23:03] <christiann> where ready etw62731
[23:03] <erUSUL> Hilikus: in ram. they are not writte to disk
[23:03] <losher> christiann: I think you need to change the kernel code for that to happen...
[23:03] <Hilikus> anyone knows where ufw stores its rules?
[23:03] <etw62731> christiann: uname uses the uname() system call, you cannot change that
[23:03] <linuxguy2009> Dekko: With compiz you can scroll on the wallpaper to change em si that what you mean?
[23:03] <alexutzius> www.mysoft.isgreat.org for silkroad players
[23:04] <sharperguy> How do I get the old functionality of update-manager back?
[23:04] <lstarnes> Hilikus: look in /etc/ufw
[23:04] <linuxguy2009> lancerocke: Your friend may have a different W7 build than you.
[23:04] <lancerocke> linuxguy2009, http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/3103b84b4fb85b7ea8e8b1435d2ea780/
[23:04] <Dekko> linuxguy2009: yes but now that doesn't seem to work....
[23:04] <Dekko> anymore.
[23:04] <erUSUL> Hilikus: /etc/ufw/ ?
[23:04] <syslq78> Open source linux design program (furniture schema), any ideas?
[23:05] <linuxguy2009> Dekko: Verify that desktop effects are enabled and then turn the cube back on along with rotate.
[23:05] <Dekko> linuxguy looking
[23:05] <Hilikus> lstarnes erUSUL no
[23:05] <linuxguy2009> Dekko: Compiz is either not enabled or the plugins are off.
[23:05] <OttifantSir> Dekko: I have also some instabilities with Compiz. It's usually okay again after a logout. Never had the scrollwheel disappear on me though.
[23:05] <liam_> sharperguy, i am not aware of any whays to do that
[23:05] <syslq78> d
[23:06] <sharperguy> liam_, It's annoying
[23:06] <linuxguy2009> sharperguy: Be specific?
[23:06] <Dekko> OttifantSir: Okay :) Hmmm
[23:06] <sharperguy> linuxguy2009, It comes up by itself instead of just telling you there's updates
[23:06] <Dekko> Do you know what the compiz setting manager is called, I only have the simple one installed.
[23:07] <chiques> i have a 7GB partition that I would like to merge with /HOME partition. Is there an application that will allow me to do this?
[23:07] <andrew__> dekko: compizconfig settings manager
[23:07] <OttifantSir> Dekko: You want to know what the package is called in Synaptic?
[23:07] <erUSUL> chiques: if the disk layout is ok gparted can do that
[23:07] <liam_> sharperguy, what are you trying to get back?
[23:07] <linuxguy2009> sharperguy: You can turn off the update notifier in startup apps if thats what you choose to do,
[23:07] <Dekko> I use 'apt-get install'
[23:07] <kumpela> jest tu ktos?
[23:07] <SnakePlisken> Dekko: Thats some KDE-garbage from what ive seen, right ?
[23:08] <linuxguy2009> sharperguy: You can still check for updates manually it will simply stop bothering you. I do the same on mine.
[23:08] <erUSUL> chiques: both partitions have to be one ofter the other
[23:08] <OttifantSir> Dekko: It's "compizconfig-settings-manager" then
[23:08] <chiques> erUSUL, I tried using gparted via a boot from a live cd but gparted still did not have any options
[23:08] <SnakePlisken> fjordlord: Change yer nick, im the ultimate fjordlord :P
[23:08] <Hilikus> found them. /usr/lib/ufw/user.rules
[23:08] <chiques> erUSUL, So I have to "move" it next to my /HOME partition?
[23:09] <linuxguy2009> chiques: Simply cut and paste files to the home partition. Then resize the home partition.
[23:09] <linuxguy2009> chiques: Just a few extra steps are involved.
[23:10] <SnakePlisken> fjordlord: Affluvial dampers, check (y/n) ? :)
[23:10] <linuxguy2009> chiques: Will also need to edit the UUID of the home probably too,
[23:10] <liam_> linuxguy2009, hey
[23:10] <erUSUL> chiques: yep;
[23:10] <linuxguy2009> Yes liam?
[23:10] <Kangarooo> chiques, if u have live cd load it live and open gparted and resize and copy. (just another option.)
[23:11] <chiques> Kangarooo, I tried the live cd. I didn't see options to merge it using the gparted GUI
[23:11] <Shortguy109> I downloaded googleearth from the site and got the bin file but how do i open google earth
[23:11] <liam_> linuxguy2009, no help needed just saying hi
[23:12] <Rewt`> ...
[23:12] <linuxguy2009> liam: hehe my bad. Good to see you here.
[23:12] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | Shortguy109 this repositorie has GE packaged
[23:12]  * Dekko thanks everyone that helped with Compiz. Logging out and in again worked.
[23:12] <liam_> linuxguy2009, anything i can do to help
[23:12] <Dekko> Seems like its a bug....
[23:12] <SnakePlisken> Raffi_: May i priv ?
[23:13] <Out_Cold> so i was trying to install from 9.04 alt disk... when installing the base system i get an error in regards to "linux-generic" any ideas or help?
[23:13] <eggenz7> anybody have any experence getting ebox installed on intrepid?
[23:13] <Shortguy109> erUSUL, okay thanks
[23:13] <linuxguy2009> liam_: Are you here to help folks too?
[23:13] <erUSUL> !ebox | eggenz7
[23:13] <Kangarooo> chiques, there is no option to merge :D no but if you want all files in 7gb to be in home then assuming theres not much place left in 7gb then also you can do this so solve. also gprated resize 7gb to smaller resize home to bigger then copy as much possible. when all 7gb are secured moved to home then delete 7gb and resize home to maximum possible ;)
[23:13] <Dekko> BTW people .... do you know if there's a way to have Gnome pop up windows mainly in the middle of the screen. I think some windows gets put top left etc too much. or is there a "system" to how it arranges newly opened windows?
[23:13] <liam_> linuxguy2009, i will do my best
[23:13] <linuxguy2009> liam_: Cool thats what im here for too. Try to help as much as i can.
[23:14] <SnakePlisken> Dekko: gtk_win_pos("Center");
[23:14] <badboy_> #ubuntu-pt
[23:14] <_alex__> Guys, I just tried to set up dual monitors in linux in ati's CCC... When I rebooted everything was black and nothing I tried would get me a screen back. So I booted into recovery mode... went into root and tried to run amdcccle... it said could not find x server, so as a final effort I clicked on the attempt to auto fix graphical problems thing it has... Now when I boot up it comes to just a screen of fuzz (Like on a tv channel that
[23:14] <_alex__> isn't there)... any ideas?
[23:14] <chiques> Kangarooo, The 7GB is a partition that accidentally created during my Jaunty upgrade. There isn't any data on it, I simply want to add it to my available space in my /HOME partition.
[23:14] <Kangarooo> is now update of mirrors happening?
[23:14] <Out_Cold> could anyone tell me where to look to learn how to CLI install from anothre OS??
[23:15] <liam_> linuxguy2009, been on and off linux for 2 years now i have
[23:15] <ntiy> hi dear All. have a problem with vnc server. server is up. port is opened. I keep getting "vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: No route to host" message from vnc viewer. Any help?
[23:15] <eggenz7> erUSUL, ive read that already..and at the very top is says that ebox is broken on intrepid but i have red forum posts of folx getting it installed..just wondering if there is anybody on here that has been able to do it
[23:15] <SnakePlisken> Dekko:  gtk_window_set_position (GTK_WINDOW (some_window), GTK_WIN_POS_CENTER);
[23:15] <Shortguy109> erUSUL, is this what i download? http://packages.medibuntu.org/hardy/googleearth.html
[23:15] <erUSUL> chiques: post the output of « sudo fdisk -l » in pastebin
[23:15] <linuxguy2009> Dekko: If you have compiz going you can try the "grid" plugin. It lets you use ctrl+alt and the numpad to arrange windows very fast. I love it on my system.
[23:15] <frak_> anyone know what version of xorg I can use with mesa 7.3
[23:15] <gogeta> chiques: then delete it with gparted and resize the other
[23:15] <erUSUL> Shortguy109: it is better to just add the repo to your sources.list and then just use synaptic or something like that
[23:15] <gogeta> chiques: use the live cd the knothing is in use
[23:16] <Kangarooo> chiques, then just live cd (for security resons, if you gparted the same HDD witch is now operating system then something can theoretically happen bad) so live cd then gparted delete 7gb and resize all as much as you want ;)
[23:16] <liam_> Dekko, google " simple conpiz config
[23:16] <erUSUL> eggenz7: ahh ok; then i dunno. if you repeat the question later include that info (that you already read the page etc)
[23:17] <Dekko> liam: thank you so much.
[23:17] <ntiy> any1?
[23:17] <SnakePlisken> Kangarooo: Its operating as suid root. Theres no issues as long as the uer auth's as root
[23:17] <chiques> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/223072/
[23:17] <linuxguy2009> ntiy: How can i help you today?
[23:17]  * Dekko also wonders if there is a way to turn off spell checking?
[23:17] <ShorTie> power button will work
[23:17] <chiques> gogeta, Kangarooo http://paste.ubuntu.com/223072/
[23:17] <linuxguy2009> ntiy: Ah vnc, im not much help to ya sorry.
[23:17] <liam_> dekko in what? app
[23:18] <Kangarooo> SnakePlisken, so i can also create partitions on running system?
[23:18] <gogeta> chiques: we told you what to do
[23:18] <Kangarooo> SnakePlisken, in the same hdd the ubuntu is installed?
[23:18] <SnakePlisken> ntiy: Open up your firewall
[23:18] <chiques> OK
[23:18] <_alex__> Also, does anyone know where Firefox stores the bookmarks.html file in linux?
[23:18] <linuxguy2009> Dekko: In openoffice? firefox?
[23:18] <andrew__> ok...here's one...why is free bsd unix-like, but linux is linux?
[23:18] <erUSUL> chiques: so you want to add the space of /dev/sda8 to /dev/sda6 ?
[23:19] <Out_Cold> _alex__, it's in /home/user/.firefox or something
[23:19] <Kangarooo> _alex__, .firefox smth
[23:19] <VCoolio> _alex__: ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah.default/somewhere
[23:19] <chiques> Kangarooo, Once I delete the 7GB, how do I "reassign" it to a partition of my choice.
[23:19] <gogeta> chiques: you can eyther lvm it or delete and resize
[23:19] <linuxguy2009> _alex__: If you go to the bookmarks menu and organize bookmarks you can export them as a file if thats what you need.
[23:19] <gogeta> chiques: it will list them
[23:19] <SnakePlisken> Kangarooo: If root is required by any program its because it does many operations, and you wouldnt want to write the root password more then once (atleast not a few hundred times)
[23:19] <_alex__> linuxguy2009_: I can't get onto my OS lol... trying to get my bookmarks off =P
[23:19] <liam_> dekko what app are you  tryingv to turn spell checking off in
[23:19] <erUSUL> chiques: i will remove sda7 (is swap so it does not matter) and sda8 then resiza sda6 to the desired size then create sda7 swap again at the end of the disk
[23:20] <linuxguy2009> _alex__: Think its a .jos xml file I think.
[23:20] <gogeta> chiques: you well see all /dev/sda partations
[23:20] <linuxguy2009> _alex__: oh
[23:20] <chiques> erUSUL, Yes, sda8 to sda6
[23:20] <Out_Cold> so does someone know how to install an OS from another system?? via CLI?
[23:20] <gogeta> chiques: slect sda6 and resize
[23:20] <erUSUL> chiques: you will have to edit your /etc/fstab from the live to reflect the changes there becouse of course the uuid's will change
[23:21] <chiques> gogeta, I guess I have to reboot into a live cd to have the "resize" option.
[23:21] <Kangarooo> chiques, you can move partitions to the left to the left and to the right also :)
[23:21] <SnakePlisken> Kangarooo: generally admin programs will need root to make stuff happen for you.
[23:21] <liam_> Dekko,  what app are you  tryingv to turn spell checking off in
[23:21] <chiques> OK, I'll try that. Thanks!!
[23:21] <gogeta> chiques: its visable after you delete sda8 and yes reboot to live cd
[23:21] <erUSUL> chiques: are you familiar with editting the fstab and such thnigs ?
[23:22] <owner> hello
[23:22] <owner> anyone can help me?
[23:22] <Kangarooo> owner !ask
[23:22] <Kangarooo> owner | !ask
[23:23] <owner> KEY FOUND! [ 01:68:79:09:09 ]
[23:23] <SnakePlisken> When will Ubuntu Jaunty get up-to-speed with current SQUID developments ? (Its at 3.x now and Ubuntu still uses 2.7) There are many reasons why Ubuntu developers should upgrade.
[23:23] <murcherson> my sound is all screwed up and i want to start afresh with all sound config etc removed, any ideas on where i should start with this?
[23:23] <erUSUL> !ask | owner
[23:23] <owner> can translate to me?
[23:23] <eggenz7> anybody have any ideas on how to get ebox installed on intrepid? ive already read forum pages and the ebox supports...im lost
[23:23] <Kangarooo> !gpg | owner
[23:23] <linuxguy2009> SnakePlisken: Tried looking for backport?
[23:23] <fiendishfish> How do I stop apt adding a menu-entry for programs?
[23:23] <owner> how i can convert the ip mac?
[23:24] <Out_Cold> owner, macchanger
[23:24] <owner> but i already install
[23:24] <linuxguy2009> fiendishfish: You know you can use the menu editor to disable launchers right?
[23:24] <owner> not show the ascii
[23:24] <SnakePlisken> linuxguy2009: Idev.. a backport would be worse
[23:24] <andrew__> why would anyone want to change their mac address?
[23:24] <owner> how?
[23:24] <notmike> why is ldap so fucking complicated yo!
[23:24] <SnakePlisken> linuxguy2009: Idev.. a backport would be wors
[23:24] <erUSUL> !language | notmike
[23:24] <fiendishfish> linuxguy2009: Yes, but that would require me to remove every menu-entry that apt-get adds, right? Which would be awfully inconvenient, if I install a lot of packages
[23:24] <Out_Cold> andrew__, if someone was doing something illegal or having errors with current macs
[23:25] <notmike> sorry.
[23:25] <linuxguy2009> SnakePlisken: Well its that or wait for a release in the nest 9.10 or above.
[23:25] <SnakePlisken> linuxguy2009: ACL name 'all' has been built into version 3.x and its causing problems
[23:25] <trakcyia> My wireless connection does not work most of the time. I have to attempt to connect about 15 times, usually it doesn't connect at all. I'm using Dell WiFi Link 1515, (AR5009?)
[23:25] <owner> Out_Cold: how?
[23:25] <owner> can convert to me?
[23:25] <linuxguy2009> SnakePlisken: Im useless ignore me.
[23:25] <owner> KEY FOUND! [ 01:68:79:09:09 ]
[23:25] <SnakePlisken> linuxguy2009: Why not just upgrade ?
[23:25] <Out_Cold> owner, sudo macchanger -m 00:11:22:33:44:55
[23:25] <owner> already
[23:25] <erUSUL> owner: you will have to give as more context. what is typing KEY FOUND! [ 01:68:79:09:09 ] ?? which program ?
[23:25] <liam_> trakcyia, which version of ubuntu
[23:25] <owner> but not show..
[23:26] <Out_Cold> owner, what language do you speak??
[23:26] <_alex__> Guys, I just tried to set up dual monitors in linux in ati's CCC... When I rebooted everything was black and nothing I tried would get me a screen back. So I booted into recovery mode... went into root and tried to run amdcccle... it said could not find x server, so as a final effort I clicked on the attempt to auto fix graphical problems thing it has... Now when I boot up it comes to just a screen of fuzz (Like on a tv channel that
[23:26] <trakcyia> 9.04
[23:26] <_alex__> isn't there)... any ideas?
[23:26] <trakcyia> 32 bit
[23:26] <andrew__> even with a masqueraded mac, couldn't the IP still be traced?
[23:26] <owner> aircrack
[23:26] <liam_> trakcyia, do you know what kernel you have?
[23:26] <trakcyia> andrew__ changing your mac won't make you completely anonymous
[23:26] <SnakePlisken> linuxguy2009: NoManIsAnIsland
[23:26] <Out_Cold> andrew__, yes.. but say i have a usb wifi card... could be easily removed and hidden
[23:27] <CopyWriter> ok my first question
[23:27] <owner> how to use macchanger?
[23:27] <trakcyia> liam, I'll check
[23:27] <Out_Cold> owner, if you are committing illegal acts this is the wrong spot to ask for help
[23:27] <owner> macchanger not show ascii charactter
[23:27] <linuxguy2009> _alex__: You have google access? Im sure its on there somewhere.
[23:27] <gogeta> Out_Cold: proxys my frends proxys
[23:27] <gogeta> lol
[23:27] <CopyWriter> how do i find which distro would work best on my desktop, i use ubuntu on my laptop cuz i found a site with laptops and distros to use on the specific model
[23:27] <Out_Cold> gogeta, that too... but then the proxies should not be your own lol
[23:28] <andrew__> proxys=spoofing?
[23:28] <_alex__> linuxguy2009_: google access?
[23:28] <trakcyia> liam 2.6.28.11.15
[23:28] <_alex__> linuxguy2009_: Like internet access?
[23:28] <gogeta> Out_Cold: that would be -10 in stupid to use your own
[23:28] <owner> hmm..
[23:28] <gogeta> +10
[23:28] <linuxguy2009> CopyWriter: There is no best distro. Its personal preference. Download live CDs and try em all.
[23:28] <Out_Cold> CopyWriter, ubuntu is a user friendly distro that has lots of compatibility
[23:28] <SnakePlisken> Out_Cold: Its not illegal to change macs. If you buy a car/network-card you may put new wheels on it right ?
[23:28] <liam_> trakcyia, is it usb
[23:29] <trakcyia> liam_ it is internet PCIe half-mini
[23:29] <CopyWriter> so i can tweak it by installing drivers and such?
[23:29] <trakcyia> internal^
[23:29] <arleslie> CopyWriter, http://www.linux.org/dist/
[23:29] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: thats not but why wwould you unless your trying to hide
[23:29] <fiendishfish> Out_Cold: Even suggesting (or assuming) that he is enquiring about illegal acts is putting YOURSELF into a stupid position. Rather, just answer the question, tbh.
[23:29] <Out_Cold> SnakePlisken, agreed... but the intentions of owner seem to be obscure
[23:29] <fiendishfish> gogeta: It is not relevant.
[23:29] <linuxguy2009> CopyWriter: We are not allowed to discuss other distros here. Use #ubuntu-offtopic for that. hehe
[23:29] <fiendishfish> His intentions are largely irrelevant.
[23:29] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: From a ddos ?
[23:29] <trakcyia> liam_ I'm not sure if the pcie slot uses a USB bus, it might?
[23:29] <CopyWriter> thanks arleslie, linuxguy2009 and out_cold, i'll check it out
[23:29] <Out_Cold> fiendishfish, i'm not going to assist in illegal activities
[23:29] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: none is going to ddos a user
[23:29] <Jason_WT> hey, can yall see this text, dont know if i am still connected or not
[23:30] <fiendishfish> Out_Cold: that's your choice, don't complain; Simply assert.
[23:30] <arleslie> Jason_WT, Yes, you are connected
[23:30] <linuxguy2009> CopyWriter: http://www.distrowatch.com
[23:30] <fiendishfish> Besides, you have no evidence to suggest there is ANY illegal activities.
[23:30] <andrew__> to my knowledge, pcie and usb are different buses
[23:30] <fiendishfish> gogeta: Perhaps, rapid mac address changing could thwart some WPA attacks (my silly theory)
[23:30] <Jason_WT> arleslie: thanks
[23:30] <gogeta> lol
[23:30] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: Aha, thats also wrong. But then, as a distributor of OSS-software may i protect myself you think ?
[23:30] <yoritomo> hello all
[23:30] <erUSUL> !ot
[23:31] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: im a dev to
[23:31] <Jason_WT> strange i cant browse sites, thoght
[23:31] <SnakePlisken> IDC-kids :P
[23:31] <liam_> trakcyia, go to acessories terminl and type ls usb
[23:31] <fiendishfish> !help
[23:31] <Sinatra_Laptop> can anybody suggest a good torrent search site? (if you google it - a million come up)
[23:31] <fiendishfish> !repost
[23:31] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: i keep my media of externel disk
[23:31] <Pici> !offtopic | Sinatra_Laptop
[23:31] <fiendishfish> Sinatra_Laptop: !ot
[23:31] <linuxguy2009> Sinatra_Laptop: We can not give out illegal torrent sites I dont believe.
[23:31] <|31770|> hi I've acciedentily rm -r lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[23:31] <Stanley_> I'm dual booting and have left 60GB on the drive for a storage partition that both OS's can share. How do I go about creating a partition on this empty space and formatting it to a filesystem that both OS's can read? (I'm assuming it'd be NTFS?)
[23:31] <|31770|> any quick way to recover
[23:31] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: I keep my media on all universities as well as backups in many counties on many servers
[23:31] <andrew__> sinatra-laptop: torrentreactor.net
[23:31] <erUSUL> |31770|: accidentally ??
[23:32] <linuxguy2009> Sinatra_Laptop:  If your looking for legal torrents tell us what you need and we can help.
[23:32] <Sinatra_Laptop> i'm not trying to do anything illegal ....
[23:32] <|31770|> was trying to remove a module and miss hit enter
[23:32] <erUSUL> |31770|: reinstall the kernel and related packages
[23:32] <|31770|> whats the best way to go about doing that
[23:32] <Pici> Sinatra_Laptop: Torrent search sites have nothing to do with Ubuntu, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <trakcyia> liam_ ls: cannot access usb: No such file or directory
[23:32] <linuxguy2009> Sinatra_Laptop: What are you looking for exacty?
[23:32] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: Do you develop something nice to have ?
[23:32] <erUSUL> |31770|: use synaptic
[23:32] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: servers can be hacked est wayy to protect code is offile
[23:32] <yoritomo> i have a strange jack problem with LMMS and some other programs too, when i open LMMS i see it appears in the output column but not in input, it does not enable me to connect my keyboard then
[23:32] <|31770|> is there a how to with a modules I should get and install?
[23:33] <yoritomo> i tryed update and many things of course
[23:33] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: a eeepc optmised distro
[23:33] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: No, diverese systems in many countries plus off-site backups is the best.
[23:33] <gogeta> SnakePlisken: being thats open i dont take such mesures for that
[23:33] <|31770|> sorry a bit new to knowing which modules need installing
[23:33] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: Cool, go for ARM
[23:33] <erUSUL> |31770|: all modules come in the kernel package on in the backports one or the restricted
[23:33] <yoritomo> can somebody helps me please ?
[23:33] <erUSUL> |31770|: just reinstaling those three should be enough
[23:33] <linuxguy2009> yoritomo: Fire away!
[23:33] <arleslie> !ask yoritomo
[23:34] <|31770|> thanks
[23:34] <CopyWriter> ok i've settled on ubuntu
[23:34] <liam_> trakcyia, go to acessories terminl and type lsusb
[23:34] <CopyWriter> the live cd works i got sound and everything, wireless, graphics
[23:34] <erUSUL> |31770|: if you use the nvidiaati driver provided by ubuntu you may have to reinstall those packages to
[23:34] <erUSUL> too*
[23:34] <CopyWriter> now to install
[23:34] <CopyWriter> i love this place
[23:34] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: gadmin-rsync is a bit cool i think, tried it yet ?
[23:34] <trakcyia> liam_ http://www.pastebin.org/3299
[23:34] <fiendishfish> How often can I repost my question, if I get no replies?
[23:35] <fiendishfish> Because the channel is so fast-paced.
[23:35] <yoritomo> arleslie i described my problem above
[23:35]  * Dekko thanks linuxguy for the tip
[23:35] <linuxguy2009> fiendishfish: Whats your question?
[23:35] <erUSUL> !patience
[23:35] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  every 5-10 min perhaps..  dependng on the traffic
[23:35] <liam_> trakcyia, go to acessories terminl and type lspci
[23:35] <arleslie> yoritomo, I don't know the answer to your question
[23:35] <fiendishfish> linuxguy2009: You responded.
[23:35] <yoritomo> thanks anyway
[23:35] <fiendishfish> How do I stop apt adding a menu-entry for programs?
[23:35] <SnakePlisken> gogeta: We use many different dists, all but microsofts crap infact. Could be worth a try.
[23:36] <trakcyia> liam_ omitted irrelevant results, 06:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[23:36] <andrew__> microsoft has released a linux distro?
[23:36] <Out_Cold> no andrew__
[23:36] <erUSUL> !ot | andrew__
[23:36] <yoritomo> any was is clever about jack or mao stuffs here ?
[23:36] <linuxguy2009> fiendishfish: You refering to using apt-get?
[23:36] <fiendishfish> Yes.
[23:36] <erUSUL> yoritomo: maybe in  #ubuntustudio ?
[23:36] <arleslie> andrew__, No microsoft has not released a linux distro and never will, and this is ubuntu support
[23:37] <fiendishfish> linuxguy2009: Indeed.
[23:37] <erUSUL> !ubuntustudio
[23:37] <liam_> trakcyia, i'm not sure how ot help with the issue you are having
[23:37] <linuxguy2009> fiendishfish: apt-get --help if there is a way to supress that function it should be listed.
[23:37] <andrew__> ubottu:  was just asking regarding someone elses previous post...sorry
[23:37] <trakcyia> liam_ someone on a forum suggested using proprietary drivers, do you know how I could go about doing this?
[23:37] <liam_> trakcyia, ah yes
[23:37] <linuxguy2009>  trakcyia: Video drivers?
[23:38] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  you cn edit the menus and remove items you dont want. (but ive never bothered)
[23:38] <yoritomo> ∕erUSUL thanks
[23:38] <liam_> linuxguy2009, wireless
[23:38] <linuxguy2009> ah
[23:38] <erUSUL> yoritomo: no problem; good luck
[23:38] <trakcyia> linuxguy2009 no, drivers for AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
[23:38] <linuxguy2009> I see
[23:39] <fiendishfish> Dr_willis: That's a bit of a crumby plan if you regularly install LOTS of programs, tbh.
[23:39] <liam_> linuxguy2009, hardware drivers under system?
[23:39] <fiendishfish> Thanks for the suggestion though.
[23:39] <linuxguy2009>  liam_: Pardon?
[23:39] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  ive never really noticed it being much of a problem under linux/gnome.. compared to windows.. the menus are a lot less clutered.
[23:39] <murcherson> what sound system should i use for soundblaster x-fi alsa or oss
[23:40] <fiendishfish> Dr_willis: When you are a minimalist (even attempting to use Gnome), it is a problem =]
[23:40] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  most apps have a '.desktop' file that defines their menu entry. if you want to alter them you can alter the .desktop file I guess.
[23:40] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: Your having issues with you X-Fi not working?
[23:40] <liam_> trakcyia, try in your menu system>administration hardware drivers?
[23:40] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  whats good for a 'single' user may not be good for a 'system with 1000+ users'
[23:40] <fiendishfish> Dr_willis: Thus, there should be an OPTION.
[23:40] <trakcyia> liam_ only nvidia comes up as a potential proprietary driver
[23:40] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  so it all depends on your exact needs.
[23:41] <geezer> Greetings. Can someone tell me if "preload" is good for Ubuntu?
[23:41] <murcherson> partly linuxguy2009 some stuff works others dont
[23:41] <trakcyia> liam_ what I am really trying to do is verify that I am not already using the proprietary drivers, before I go compiling and installing
[23:41] <fiendishfish> Dr_willis: I am sure lots of people would prefer not to have their menus cluttered with silly programs which are rarely used.
[23:41] <liam_> trakcyia, is it a fresh install
[23:41] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: Im not sure how good it works but I know there are outstanding issues with those cards your not the only one.
[23:41] <trakcyia> liam_ yes
[23:41] <murcherson> linuxguy2009: i wanted to start with a clean slate so i can narrow down my issues
[23:42] <Dr_willis> fiendishfish:  thers no option. the package manager includes a .desktop files.. those get scanned when gnome starts up.. and added to the proper menus. thats how the menu system works. I think there MAY be some options in those files for some things.. but ive not  messed with them much
[23:42] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: Creative has beta linux drivers and thats about it.
[23:43] <liam_> trakcyia, then you wont be because ubuntu will not use propitery drivers unless you tell it to
[23:43] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: What are you wanting to clean exactly? The drivers are in the kernel mostly.
[23:43] <frak_> is there a way I can install the xorg package without it updating libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx?
[23:43] <murcherson> linuxguy2009: i want to get rid of any sound related config etc files so i can start afresh
[23:44] <arleslie> geezer, Do you mean that it was pre-installed before you received the computer?
[23:44] <linuxguy2009> frak_: If installing one package causes others to be installed allong side it, its because there required dependenciues and I dont think there is a choice.
[23:44] <trakcyia> liam_  Then, if the proprietary driver is not available in apt cache (after enabling all repo's) I must either install the proprietary by other means, or use a windows driver + ndiswrapper? if so, which would you suggest?
[23:44] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: Well theres not much to clean there just user settings in the sound mixer control etc.
[23:45] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: If you have an integrated audio device you may have better luck with compatibility.
[23:46] <murcherson> linuxguy2009: yeh, been trying to avoid doing that but maybe i should rethink
[23:46] <liam_> trakcyia, use a windows driver + ndiswrapper not sure how well tht will work
[23:46] <Xtremegamer> hello all :)
[23:47] <murcherson> x-fi cards are a pain in the ass
[23:47] <|31770|> ok think of re-installed everything - wish me luck I'm going to reboot and hope it comes back up...
[23:47] <linuxguy2009> murcherson:only other option with the X-Fi is to try the Creative beta drivers.
[23:47] <arleslie> !language | murcherson
[23:47] <trakcyia> liam_ how do I uninstall (or blacklist?) the bad driver before attempting a replacement?
[23:48] <Xtremegamer> should i just put my question here and hope someone can anser it ?
[23:48] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: Im sure there great cards its just that some manufacturers dont support linux much if at all.
[23:48] <arleslie> !ask Xtremegamer
[23:48] <arleslie> !ask | Xtremegamer
[23:48] <murcherson> er ass is a term describing an odd-toed ungulate
[23:48] <liam_> trakcyia, not sure never had a problem with drivers
[23:49] <antibody> hey..how can I see what pids are using the sound card..I don't remember the name of the app..fuser?something like that
[23:49] <antibody> tknz
[23:49] <Xtremegamer> how to install gpsca webcam driver  , is there a tutorial for this ?
[23:49] <Dr_willis> !webcam
[23:49] <linuxguy2009> Xtremegamer: Is there a driver made for linux by the manufacturer?
[23:49] <liam_> linuxguy2009, i have question for you
[23:50] <linuxguy2009> liam: go ahead sure.
[23:50] <moymoy> !ask
[23:50] <murcherson> thanks for your help linuxguy2009
[23:50] <linuxguy2009> murcherson: Oh glad I could help.
[23:51] <liam_> linuxguy2009, has there been a fix for the micro$oft vx-100 webcam in ubuntu
[23:51] <hungerandthirst_> anybody on here have a solid knowledge of apache/passenger?
[23:51] <Xtremegamer> linuxguy2009 > yes this driver would cover mine , but i keep getting errors at install of the module
[23:51] <linuxguy2009> liam_: hmm no experience with that or any other webcam sorry. hehe
[23:51] <liam_> trakcyia, sorry i cant help much
[23:51] <Brando753> can you send and recieve faxes on your computer if you have a modem?
[23:51] <linuxguy2009> Xtremegamer:  Oh there is no .run or deb available instead?
[23:52] <andrew__> brando753: yes...but I have no idea how in ubuntu
[23:53] <Xtremegamer> linuxguy2009 > the only thing i could download was a package that i have to make with a-m  ,
[23:53] <linuxguy2009> Brando753: look in add/remove or synaptic and search for "fax". Im sure there has to be something.Probably maybe a generic CUPS fax driver or somthing.
[23:53] <ARMENIAN> hey, how can i have a folder have a open with audacious context menu without going into open with then open with audacious?
[23:53] <trakcyia> liam_ that's fine I'll figure something out eventually. It seems people have this card working in my unit, so it can't be that hard
[23:53] <yokameire> masterbender?
[23:53] <Xtremegamer> how to turn of the notes of people coming in and out of the chat (pidgin)
[23:53] <liam_> linuxguy2009, i am aware that the 2.6.30 kerrnel fixes the issue but the i have issues with graphics
[23:53] <linuxguy2009> Xtremegamer: Hmm sorry Im not much help to you then. sorry.
[23:53] <yokameire> is 2.6.31 out yet?
[23:53] <raziekiel> I'm trying to remove empty folders and folders with less than 1mb in them via command line, how do I do this?
[23:54] <Dr_willis>  Xtremegamer  its a pidgin plugin/settings i recall.. I hate pidgin for irc.
[23:54] <liam_> trakcyia, try ubuntu forums
[23:54] <yokameire> Is 2.6.31 out??
[23:54] <Xtremegamer> Dr_willis > what do you suggest then ?
[23:54] <linuxguy2009> liam_: Oh I see. And it would be poitless for me to ask if there is a Linux driver from Microsoft for that. lol
[23:54] <ARMENIAN> if u get ubuntu 8.10 does it have the old linux kernel?
[23:54] <arleslie> !who | yokameire
[23:54] <Dr_willis> Xtremegamer:  for irc i use a real deidicated irc client normally.. for me thats irssi, xchat, or weechat
[23:54] <linuxguy2009> jk
[23:55] <yokameire> ubottu?
[23:55] <yokameire> are you a bot?
[23:55] <liam_> lol
[23:55] <Dr_willis> yokameire:  yes it is.
[23:55] <linuxguy2009> ubottu is a bot
[23:55] <arleslie> yokameire, yes that is a bot
[23:55] <yokameire> Lol ok
[23:55] <trakcyia> Anyone know if installing MADWIFI automatically blacklists free wireless drivers?
[23:55] <linuxguy2009> ubottu is very helpful to newcommers.
[23:56] <yokameire> Your not a bot are you! :P
[23:56] <iamtheobject> you're
[23:56] <grody> good evening... does anyone know why ubuntu decided to build ipv6 INTO the kernel? i can't blacklist it anymore in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist(.conf)
[23:56] <yokameire> you're*
[23:56] <sarutobisensey> hi, i have a problem quith ubuntu partition
[23:56] <iamtheobject> lol ignore me O:-)
[23:56] <yokameire> who ignore you?
[23:56] <swoody> my logout/shut down options under the 'System' menu are gone, anyone have any ideas??
[23:57] <sarutobisensey> Someone can help me??
[23:57] <arleslie> !ask sarutobisensey
[23:57] <andrew__> !ask
[23:57] <nexsja> hi, can anybody suggest a good lightweight but powerful text/code editor?
[23:57] <ryanprior> swoody: which version of Ubuntu?
[23:57] <linuxguy2009> swoody: They are no more in 9.04.
[23:57] <tyler_wylie> This channel is more painful than herpes aids and syph all together
[23:57] <ryanprior> nexsja: EMACS
[23:57] <linuxguy2009> swoody: Use the user switcher applet in the gnome panel.
[23:57] <hittt> nexsja: vi
[23:57] <Dr_willis> nexsja:  depends on your needs.. fte. geany. are both nice in ways..
[23:57] <liam_> sarutobisensey, how can i help?
[23:57] <yokameire> ubottu I'm going to weld you to a wall :P
[23:57] <stanley_> I have a single hard drive i've partitioned and i'm dual booting with winxp and ubuntu. I have about 65GB extra spcae that i need to partition and format to use as storage and share between the two OS's. How do I partition and format the space with gpart? (or any other program that'd work..)
[23:57] <swoody> linuxguy2009, ryanprior it is 9.04. They got rid of it?? Why??
[23:58] <arleslie> nexsja, gEdit is pretty good, no features tho
[23:58] <trakcyia> How do I find out Specifically what wireless driver my system is using?
[23:58] <nexsja> Dr_willis: fte and geany are both editors? :>
[23:58]  * grody thinks 9.04 is a catastrophic failure
[23:58] <nexsja> arleslie: didn't like it :<
[23:58] <Dr_willis> stanley_:  you meay you want to resize the windows partition and  make a new partition out of the free space.
[23:58] <hittt> is the name of 10.04 released?
[23:58] <legend2440> swoody: if you remove the red logout icon in the top right panel the logout and shutdown come back under System
[23:58] <sarutobisensey> I want to quit an ubuntu partition, because I have two ubuntu operating sistem in one HDD
[23:58] <nexsja> nor do i like vi or emacs :<
[23:58] <Dr_willis> nexsja:  theres dozens of editors out.. Yes those 2 are editors
[23:58] <Dr_willis> nexsja:  it pays to learn vi. Just go learn it...
[23:58] <linuxguy2009> swoody: Logout, reboot, shutdown, user switching are all integrated into the user swicther applet. Top right of the screen with your name.
[23:59] <Xtremegamer> i get Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/ , how to solve this again i forgot allready :/
[23:59] <arleslie> nexsja, check the Add/Remove in the Applications menu
[23:59] <legend2440> swoody: if you remove the red logout icon in the top right panel the logout and shutdown come back under System
[23:59] <linuxguy2009> swoody: All options are all there nice and organized for you.
[23:59] <moniteur> hello
[23:59] <liam_> trakcyia, try heading over to OFtc network cannel #alug
[23:59] <nexsja> I'd very much like something like notepad++ on win, but it runs poorly under wine :<
[23:59] <Dr_willis> nexsja:  forget about add/remove - use  the actual synaptic package manager to search for editors.
[23:59] <andrew__> dr_willis: why vi?  why not pico?
[23:59] <stanley_> Dr_willis: Nope.. XP is installed on it's 60GB partition, and unbuntu is on it's own 25GB partition, then I have 65GB of unpartitioned space that i need to make use of
[23:59] <grody> Xtremegamer, you're probably running more than one application that is using the deb package folder, or not using it as root
[23:59] <raziekiel> I'm trying to remove empty folders and folders with less than 1mb in them via command line, how do I do this?
[23:59] <linuxguy2009> swoody: If you prefer you can add a standalone shutdown applet to the panel.
[23:59] <Dr_willis> nexsja:  notepad++ is rather pathic compared to many editors that exist