[00:56] <walzmyn> Is there a way to make a particular window not do the Alt+LeftClick to move thing? I'm running a game via wine and that's becomeing an issue
[02:20] <AceBlade159> anybody know what changed between 8.10 and 9.04 pertaining to SATA HDD Detection?
[02:31] <ubuntu> hey guys just thought  id come and brag
[02:31] <ubuntu> just broke past my schools internet system
[02:33] <ubuntu> btw the internet system is handled by a whindows server
[02:33] <ubuntu> does #xubuntu liek?
[03:49] <R1cochet> im trying to connect an xbox controller and get cant enumerate device. what can i do to fix this issue?
[03:51] <R1cochet> xbox vanilla wired
[04:35] <vidd> every time i log out and back in, my screen resolution changes back to the best possible resolution (which i can read cuzz of poor eyesight) how do I make my resolution setting permanant (without checking the stupid "save session" option)?
[05:06] <R1cochet> dont think u can
[06:17] <BB82> hey I need a hand with a few questions, I'm wondering what people use to browse their samba shares witn in XFCE?
[06:18] <BB82> seems like the community is torn on this one and there's no easy answer
[06:23] <BBr82> Hi, what do people use to browse samba shares with in XFCE?
[06:24] <_Pete_> smbclient
[06:25] <BBr82> is that a GUI?
[06:26] <_Pete_> no
[06:26] <chriszf_> Hey all. Anyone around?
[06:26] <chriszf_> I just upgraded to the latest xubuntu,
[06:26] <chriszf_> and now my quit menu seems to be... wrong.
[06:27] <chriszf_> All I have is 'log out'. i don't get the suspend/hibernate/shutdown menu anymore.
[06:27] <BBr82> _Pete_, i read that XFCE can't browse with smbclient.... it's Gnome or KDE that can
[06:35] <durt> been a while since I've used samba, but I used to use linneighbourhood.
[07:25] <Jmns> hi!
[08:38] <chamalo1> bonjour
[09:00] <ocs_> hi. I have an init script which must export an environment variable MY_VAR . Unfortunately, with a normal user i CAN export it, but with root I CAN'T; what can I do ? thanks
[09:04] <ocs_> cd #bash
[09:04] <ocs_> join #bash
[09:47] <blaamann> When xfce is launching two instances of Pidgin starts up on my father's box. Where do I configure what to start up or not?
[09:49] <ablomen> blaamann, it might be in settings manager=>autostarted apps, or in the pidgin config itself
[09:50] <blaamann> ablomen: It is not in autostarts, let me have a look in Pidgin.
[09:50] <blaamann> Still it is weird that two instances starts
[09:52] <ablomen> oh and you can also try the .config/xfce4-session/ folder, there is a .rc file there and there might be .desktop files too
[09:53] <blaamann> Nothing in Pidgin. Let me try .config
[10:36] <homebrewcider> hey all, I'm trying to print to cd. I have (as advised) set up a 2nd printer for this purpose. I have cd set as the media, I have cd tray set as the source, I have this 2nd printer set as the printer for the job but all the jobs fail, can anyone help please?
[10:42] <SiDi> homebrewcider: try in #ubuntu too, it's the same app
[10:42] <homebrewcider> done that before no luck
[10:53] <blaamann> I edited/removed some lines in ~./cache/sessions/xfce4-session-my-desktop:0 in order to avoid two instances of Pidgin to start at each log in.
[10:54] <ablomen> ok, and did it work?
[11:01] <blaamann> ablomen: Yes it did :-)
[11:11] <confusious> 54 people in the room,huh ?  Wow ! We're cookin' now  ! Okay...that's enough tom-foolery for now.So,how is everybody this fine morning ? Deadicated {fairly newb}Xununtu user here from Bishop,California.{If anybody knows where that is anyway}Okay...let's begin.Hopefully this won't take too long.'Cuz,MAN,do I HAVE TO het some sleep ! Issue #1 of 2 {so far} this morn....
[11:12] <confusious> Trying to drag & drop files from desktop to desktop folder, [desktop is waaaaaaaay too crowded at this point]the files do indeed show up within the folder.But,the files are not being removed from the desktop.In order for that to happen,I must go back &right click on each & every single file & click on "delete".Why,why,why ??? I just don't understand.I remember that with "Microshit' errrrrr Microsoft Windows,all I had to do w
[11:13] <knome> confusious, shift+drag
[11:13] <techie> hehe, you even have to do that with windows =p
[11:15] <confusious> Really knome ?? Alright !! Hey,good to see you again ! Thank.I'll give thgat a try
[11:15] <knome> confusious, good to see you too :)
[11:15] <techie> ... you seem to be on here alot knome
[11:16] <knome> techie, that's because i am ;)
[11:16] <techie> hrrm, almost like a bot...
[11:16] <knome> it's holiday so i can be even more here if i feel like
[11:16] <techie> print hello world?
[11:16] <knome> techie, you should try ubottu for automatic answers ;)
[11:16] <confusious> Hey,hey ! That works.But,no I didn't have to do that with wins.............
[11:17] <knome> confusious, what was the other problem?
[11:17] <confusious> maybe though that was because I was running 98 ?
[11:17] <techie> confusious, from desktop maybe but when moving anything across drives yes you do
[11:17] <confusious> Other problem..............
[11:17] <techie> fire away
[11:17] <knome> confusious, maybe, 98 is not built on the same standards than the os's now, for example xp/vista or xubuntu 8.10/9.04
[11:18] <knome> (more like "with the same standards" maybe)
[11:18] <techie> ... you call vista an OS???
[11:18] <confusious> I would like to be able to talk to somme people online oncein awhile in chat...You know...like my 69 year old mother but..........
[11:18] <confusious> it seems that I don't have pidgin set up just right yet................
[11:19] <knome> apparently it can run some software and even muilti-task (with a high-spec pc), so...
[11:19] <techie> which instant messenger were you wanting to use pidgin for?
[11:19] <confusious> every single person in my buddy list seems to ALWAYS  be "offline"
[11:19] <confusious> how can that be ?
[11:19] <techie> which instant messenger were you wanting to use pidgin for?
[11:20] <confusious> good one Techie ! That made me chuuckle
[11:20] <techie> im being serious
[11:20] <techie> pidgin supports too many protocols which makes it more annoying to set up
[11:21] <confusious> Well,I thought Pdg was for multiple so I set up accts at msn yahoo & ??
[11:21] <techie> yes
[11:21] <knome> confusious, aim, icq, irc...
[11:21] <techie> but it just complicates things having one thing multitask
[11:21] <techie> for msn you can use aMSN
[11:22] <confusious> That is certainly true sometimes Tech
[11:22] <techie> which will make life a ton easier
[11:22] <confusious> aMSN ?
[11:22] <knome> techie, personally i like pidgin. it's interface is much better looking than amsn's
[11:22] <confusious> what do you mean by "a"MSN ?
[11:22] <techie> knome, that a debate on preference though, not ease of set up
[11:22] <knome> confusious, amsn is an application
[11:23] <techie> "aMSN" is a linux MSN messenger alternative
[11:23] <knome> techie, i personally also find pidgin easy to set up, actually
[11:23] <confusious> Hmmmmmm maybe I should read Pdgin's faq's ??
[11:23] <confusious> ahhhhhh
[11:23] <knome> techie, the only "problem" is that you have to know *what* you are setting up
[11:23] <confusious> .......
[11:23] <techie> too true knome
[11:23] <knome> techie, but that's hardly a problem for somebosy like me who is this much at irc
[11:24] <techie> same here
[11:24] <confusious> so just because I have an email addy at hotmail I'm not lready set up at pidgin for IM'ing ?
[11:25] <techie> yes you are
[11:25] <techie> pidgin will handle the MSN protocol
[11:25] <confusious> hmmmmmmm wonder wy evreybody is always offline to me then ?
[11:26] <techie> could be a possible error in the setup, bad network or even that everyone is simply offline
[11:26] <confusious> with pidgin I'm using all the diff IMing services at same time right ?
[11:26] <techie> yes and no
[11:26] <confusious> Very well could be Tech.I'm kind of a lonely guy & don't really have too many friends ya know ?
[11:26] <confusious> heh heh
[11:27] <techie> lol
[11:27] <confusious> hmmmmm yes & no ?
[11:27] <techie> with pidgin you are able to connect to various different network protocols
[11:27] <techie> but msn still only talks to other msn users
[11:27] <confusious> Well............
[11:28] <confusious> pretend I'm writing email at hot mail & one friend signs in at yahoo...pidgin would tell me right ?
[11:28] <knome> confusious, yes, but you have to have a yahoo account as well
[11:28] <confusious> Yes,I do..............
[11:28] <techie> yes, hotmail and yahoo are linked
[11:28] <knome> techie, are they?
[11:28] <knome> wow...
[11:28] <techie> yeah
[11:28] <knome> :P
[11:29] <techie> they linked over a year ago i thik
[11:29] <knome> confusious, to make it clear: as long as you add all of your accounts to pidgin, yes, you will get notifications from all of your friends from different networks.
[11:29] <confusious> I think I need to go read on Pidgin's http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin      huh ?
[11:29] <knome> confusious, and you can reply to everybody.
[11:30] <knome> confusious, that might be a good starting point
[11:30] <confusious> Dig it.Thanks,Knome
[11:30] <confusious> Think I'd better go to bed now before the ol' woman has a tizzy fit....................
[11:31] <techie> i over complicate things.... maybe spending half a year in #pclinuxos changed me
[11:31] <knome> confusious, good night :)
[11:31] <confusious> She gets REALLY cranky when I'm on her.Especially alot or like,say,all night ! heh heh
[11:31] <techie> night dude
[11:32] <confusious> which I do alot on my days off.You see,I want to be a "Techie" too
[11:32] <confusious> Before I go though...........
[11:32] <techie> lol, i earnt my ttle today at school
[11:32] <knome> confusious, the last time i helped you it was 6:30am when we finished ;)
[11:32] <techie> i completely bypassed the schools internet server
[11:32] <confusious> where is everybody ?? Knome,were you the guy fromFinland ?
[11:33] <knome> confusious, yep. it's 1pm here, so i've just woken up :D
[11:33] <techie> 10:32Pm here... NZ FTW!!!
[11:33] <confusious> your"ttle" ?? you mean "title " ?
[11:33] <techie> im using a cheap ass keyboard while i setup a new OS on my main pc
[11:33] <confusious> Wow.Bit of a late riser are we? heh heh
[11:33] <techie> so im aloud to make typos
[11:34] <knome> confusious, well if you go to sleep 5am...
[11:34] <confusious> ahhhaaaaaaa I see
[11:34] <confusious> So wher's ol Techie from ?
[11:34] <techie> Aotearoa
[11:34] <confusious> Uhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhh running low on ciggies
[11:35] <confusious> Huhhhhhhhhhh ?>?? Where the heck is that ??????????
[11:35] <techie> it means New Zealand
[11:35] <confusious> wowThough I was at least e "decent" gographer heh heh
[11:35] <confusious> Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.,...................
[11:35] <techie> lol
[11:36] <confusious> Had a kind of a good friend fromn New Zea...........
[11:36] <knome> confusious, cut down on the h's please ;)
[11:36] <knome> confusious, and .'s
[11:36] <confusious> Grate Musician
[11:36] <confusious> h's ?
[11:36] <knome> confusious, i see a lot of letters "h"
[11:37] <techie> "Uhhhhhhhh" "ohhhhhhhhhh" "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh"
[11:37] <confusious> Is that considereed bad online etiuette ?
[11:37] <confusious> oops think I spelled that wrong
[11:37] <knome> yeah. and it's make the text hard to read/follow
[11:37] <techie> etiquette*
[11:37] <confusious> sorry
[11:37] <knome> np
[11:39] <confusious> Kind of always considered myself a decent speller.So,that's kind of embarrressing.How do you "galrigh guys......gonna say goodnight for now & go study up on "online etiquette" too ha ha
[11:39] <confusious> oops......"get around"
[11:40] <knome> good night :)
[11:40]  * techie waves
[11:40] <confusious> gn & thanks alot everybody
[11:41] <techie> my god its taken about an hour to format this hard drive
[11:41] <knome> :)
[11:48] <techie> thanks god im used to using a CLI
[11:49] <techie> just opened about 10 pakcage managers
[11:49] <knome> haha
[11:49] <techie> package*
[11:49] <techie> had to use tty1 to kill them all
[11:50] <knome> :)
[11:51] <techie> omg this machine is still formatting
[11:51] <techie> it shouldnt take this long to format 113gig into ntfs
[11:53] <knome> into ntfs? well...
[11:53] <knome> it might take.
[11:53] <techie> yay it finished
[11:55] <techie> know anyone with an ssh server that i would be able to get a login for, for ssh tunnel purposes?
[12:01] <techie> OMG i think my windows XP ISO has cone bad
[12:01] <techie> gone*
[12:02] <techie> i cant really be bothered at the moment
[12:02] <techie> screwit im installing xubuntu
[12:04] <techie> not permanently though
[12:07] <techie> ima switch machines now that i have a livecd booted
[12:08] <hatake_kakashi> you know you can't resist :D
[12:09] <Techie> heya hatake
[12:09] <hatake_kakashi> yo
[12:09] <Techie> hows things going?
[12:09] <hatake_kakashi> suppose its been somewhat ok, yourself?
[12:09] <Techie> im happy
[12:09] <Techie> if you look back on the logs
[12:09] <Techie> you might notice that i got past the school server today
[12:11] <Techie> bout 9 hours ago roughly
[12:11] <hatake_kakashi> heh I'm looking through the buffer, you briefly explained it :)
[12:12] <Techie> yeah
[12:13] <Techie> the admin wants to do me in for running linux off of a live usb when the system was down
[12:13] <Techie> says its against the computer use agreement
[12:14] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[12:14] <hatake_kakashi> tell him its not your fault if he left the door wide open :)
[12:14] <Techie> nah
[12:15] <Techie> thats the least of his problems
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> haha
[12:15] <Techie> i can cause chaos no matter what OS im using
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> so he had his hands full
[12:15] <Techie> i already have the admin passwords
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> been there did that :)
[12:16] <Techie> hrmm, wonder if i can get my ATI radeon working in linux again
[12:17] <hatake_kakashi> via fglrx :D
[12:17] <Techie> i never could get that working properly in PClinuxOS
[12:17] <Techie> which was a pity because i realy wanted to use compiz
[12:17] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[12:18] <hatake_kakashi> well older cards might, newer cards, depends
[12:18] <Techie> oh man this is gonna suck
[12:19] <Techie> i just realised im gonna have to work out how to play the sound thats coming in from line in
[12:19] <ablomen> arnt ati drivers foss nowadays?
[12:19] <Techie> not sure
[12:19] <hatake_kakashi> well no there's both
[12:19] <Techie> newer ones will be open
[12:19] <hatake_kakashi> like nvidia, but open source isn't that great and I hear on ati its worse
[12:20] <Techie> but not sure about the older ones
[12:20] <Techie> ati had absolutely no open source untill they got bought out by AMD
[12:20] <ablomen> hatake_kakashi, thats just free as in beer, im sure iv read amd wanting to foss the drivers
[12:20] <hatake_kakashi> I know with nvidia there is nv and nvidia, nv being open source and nvidia being proprietary. ati I think something and fglrx
[12:20] <hatake_kakashi> yeah
[12:21] <hatake_kakashi> I hope they will make that happen, so far its been all smoke and mirrors from what I have heard from the rest
[12:21] <Techie> heres some advise, if your ever purchasing hardware for a linux box, DONT GET ATI
[12:22] <Techie> ooh almost installed
[12:22] <Techie> DONE
[12:22] <Techie> ill be right back
[12:23] <hatake_kakashi> and don't get one with broadcrap chipsets
[12:24] <hatake_kakashi> i.e. broadcom
[12:24] <th0r> hatake_kakashi: my broadcom chip worked out of the box, it was the atheros usb wifi that gave me fits
[12:25] <hatake_kakashi> th0r, atheros does in some way support the linux community more than broadcom
[12:25] <th0r> hatake_kakashi: although I have to admit that the latest kernel killed the broadcom wifi and left the atheros alone
[12:25] <hatake_kakashi> though yeah I must admit that there are some atheros that are still gray patches
[12:26] <techie> hehe 2.8ghz 1.5gig RAM and Xubuntu... ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM
[12:26] <ablomen> intel+nividia==good support :)
[12:26] <th0r> hatake_kakashi: I finally had to resort to ndiswrapper to get the atheros to work
[12:26] <hatake_kakashi> 2.6 C2D + 4GB  and xubuntu :D
[12:26] <techie> oooh, DDR2 im guessing\
[12:26] <hatake_kakashi> th0r, its not ar5007ug is it?
[12:26] <hatake_kakashi> techie, yeah :)
[12:27] <techie> *sigh* DDR333
[12:27] <th0r> don't recall offhand....would have to look it up again. But have an appointment so have to run....ttfn
[12:27] <hatake_kakashi> still, its nice that I have one of the most powerful boxen running xubuntu :P and linux even
[12:28] <hatake_kakashi> ablomen, intel and nvidia are a bit of a worrying combo, intel doesn't like nvidia stepping on their turf
[12:28] <techie> i might be in luck for my compiz support
[12:28] <techie> theres ATI drivers int he repos
[12:29] <techie> in the*
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> yeah there should :)
[12:29] <ablomen> hatake_kakashi, well with nvidia i mean just the graphics, not nvidia chipset
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> just like nvidia's proprietary drivers
[12:29] <ablomen> though these work good on linux too
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> ablomen, heard of the story behind nvidia ion? intel was fuming
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> nvidia chipset I wouldn't recommend, it has its own issues
[12:30] <ablomen> hmm after about.. 2005, i'v always had good drivers for nvidia chipsets
[12:31] <hatake_kakashi> otoh they were at that time lacking linux support, such as nforce4 and ethernet... driver became forcedeth which was some reverse engineered driver
[13:53] <vidd> how do you permanently choose not the best resolution?
[13:58] <Nitrousoxide> Hello everyone, i need help, i installed xubuntu over ubuntu server using sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <Nitrousoxide> and im not getting any network connectivity
[13:58] <Nitrousoxide> can someone point me to a driver page?
[13:59] <Nitrousoxide> No, Ok
[13:59] <SiDi> Nitrousoxide: click on the network manager icon and click on the networks you want to connect to
[13:59] <SiDi> and make sure you didnt toggle your network shutdown button if it's a laptop (usually on the front / side of the laptop)
[14:00] <SiDi> network is EXACTLY the same in ubuntu and xubuntu
[14:00] <vidd> SiDi, how do you permanently choose not the best resolution?
[14:03] <SiDi> vidd: you mean force screen resolution ?
[14:03] <vidd> yes
[14:03] <vidd> well...no
[14:03] <SiDi> I use nvidia-settings but its probably different with ati / intel
[14:04] <vidd> its a shown setting
[14:05] <vidd> but the pc picks 12-something instead of 1024x768
[14:06] <Nitrousoxide> SiDi: SOrry, it doesnt pick the card up
[14:06] <ablomen> vidd, edit xorg.conf (thats what nvidia-settings does too)
[14:06] <Nitrousoxide> DiDi: it used to work in ubuntu server 9.4 untill i installed xubuntu, then it broke it
[14:08] <vidd> ablomen, there is no xorg.conf anymore
[14:08] <ablomen> vidd, there is, or should be, xorg should still read xorg.conf before doing things on the fly
[14:09] <ablomen> or that changed in the last version of xorg
[14:09] <ablomen> so if it doesnt exists you can create it
[14:12] <ablomen> you should only have to make a screen section with a display subsection and a default depth
[14:15] <vidd> i SHOULD be able to just go into the display settings tool, pick my resolution, and it stick
[14:15] <ablomen> hehe yeah true
[14:16] <vidd> someone told me how to do it b4...months ago, and i cant remember
[14:17] <vidd> and what ever happened to the auto-started applications configuration tool?!?
[16:48] <LoOp_Jr> hol
[16:48] <LoOp_Jr> alguien habla español ?
[16:52]  * SiDi does
[16:56] <vidd> SiDi, do you by chance know how to make your resolution settings permanent without mucking around with xorg?
[16:57] <vidd> i want it set per user...not global
[16:58] <SiDi> vidd: i dont
[16:58] <vidd> =\
[16:59]  * forces también habla español
[17:01] <knome> !english
[17:01] <vidd> knome, you by chance know the answer to my question?
[17:01] <knome> vidd, not really
[17:02] <vidd> any idea why it no longer works?
[17:02] <knome> nope
[17:02] <knome> sorry
[20:02] <mikubuntu> anybody know why i would be getting these funny symbols on my screen where it should be reading something else?
[20:02] <mikubuntu> http://imagebin.org/56562
[20:03] <vidd> one moment please
[20:04] <vidd> those "funy symbols" are for typeset (fonts) your browser cannot display properly
[20:06] <vidd> have you made any changes recently on your system?
[20:06] <mikubuntu> i don't think so
[20:07] <vidd> have you had this problem b4?
[20:07] <mikubuntu> updates, normal stuff
[20:07] <mikubuntu> no, never had this
[20:07] <vidd> updates....any kernel updates or firefox updates?
[20:08] <mikubuntu> well, i didn't notice firefox or kernel updates since 3 am when i fell asleep to now
[20:09] <vidd> hehe
[20:09] <vidd> i would first restart firefox....
[20:09] <mikubuntu> did
[20:09] <vidd> also, do you do do yahoo clasic or the new crap?
[20:10] <mikubuntu> classic.  new yahoo sucks
[20:10] <vidd> hehe....i hear ya
[20:11] <vinnl> vidd, you don't like new stuff, don't you? :P
[20:11] <vidd> risistance is NOT futile!
[20:11] <vidd> =]
[20:12] <vidd> *resistance
[20:13] <vidd> mikubuntu, is it just that peice of spam? or is it on all web pages?
[20:14] <vidd> hrm...all my yahoo spam is displayed properly....
[20:14] <vidd> so it must be the fonts on your system
[20:14] <vidd> have you rebooted your system?
[20:14] <mikubuntu> no, have not rebootd
[20:15] <mikubuntu> i'm escared to
[20:15] <vidd> ?
[20:15] <vidd> why so?
[20:16] <mikubuntu> been on chat channels a lot, freenode support channels, isit possible anyone might have attackd my system
[20:16] <mikubuntu> (paranoia)
[20:16] <vidd> did you set yopur password to something stupid like "god" or "password"?
[20:16] <mikubuntu> not that bad
[20:17] <mikubuntu> but i never feel 'good enough' about passwords, you know
[20:17] <vinnl> Then to what did you set it? (Just kidding :P)
[20:17] <vidd> mikubuntu, word of advise about passwords....
[20:17] <mikubuntu> :P
[20:17] <vidd> 8-10 characters....
[20:17] <mikubuntu> yes, yes?
[20:18] <mikubuntu> mine is nine
[20:18] <vinnl> Capital letters, special signs, numbers, etc.
[20:18] <vidd> at least 2 numbers, at least 2 caps, and 2 lower-case
[20:18] <mikubuntu> has all those
[20:18] <mikubuntu> well, not two caps it dont
[20:18] <vidd> then your password is 400% better then mine =]
[20:19] <mikubuntu> hahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhaha
[20:19] <vidd> do you have an ssh server, web server, ftp server, telnet server, or any other world-accessable servers running on your system?
[20:19] <mikubuntu> lemme run let the dog out.  you think he could have something to do with it?  i don't trust ANYBODY.
[20:20] <vidd> for the most part, you practically have to INVITE someone to hack your system
[20:20] <vinnl> Also, don't use the same password for everything. You might want to append the last two letters of the thing you're signing in to to your password just to make it different. That way, they can't automatically break into your other stuff :)
[20:21] <vidd> avoid flamer, and let IRC Trolls alone
[20:22] <vidd> script kiddies are annoying but pretty impotent against basic linux security
[20:22] <vidd> but your issue is (90% certain) a fubar'd font
[20:27] <vidd> mikubuntu, you back yet?
[20:33] <mikubuntu> ya, back
[20:34] <mikubuntu> the dog is a resource hog
[20:34] <vidd> click the "view" on your firefox.....
[20:34] <mikubuntu> view (source?)
[20:34] <vidd> what is "encoding" set to?
[20:35] <mikubuntu> unicode utf 8
[20:36] <mikubuntu> auto decode (off)
[20:36] <vidd> sounds like a reboot is in order
[20:36] <mikubuntu> k, brb
[20:36] <vidd> do other sites have this issue? or just your yahoo mail?
[20:37] <mikubuntu> when i woke up, i had several tabs not rendering any type, including my server admin for my website
[20:37] <mikubuntu> computer has been on for at least 4 days
[20:37] <mikubuntu> 24/7
[20:38] <vidd> ok...so then in all likelihood, you have new fonts that need to be properly initialized
[20:38] <mikubuntu> aaaahhhhh
[20:38] <vidd> just log out of X and log back in.......
[20:38] <vidd> or reboot
[20:38] <mikubuntu> control alt del ?
[20:39] <vidd> 9.04?
[20:39] <mikubuntu> y
[20:39] <vidd> no...not ctrl+alt+del
[20:40] <mikubuntu> shift alt backspace?
[20:40] <vidd> the version lets me know if you need to do ctrl+alt+bcksp or alt+SysRq+k
[20:40] <mikubuntu> 904
[20:40] <vidd> alt+SysRq+k
[20:41] <vidd> heh....he found it =]
[20:41] <vinnl> :P
[20:42] <vidd> gee....applications->logout->logout works too....dont it?
[20:42] <vinnl> Suppose so
[20:43] <vidd> >.<
[20:45] <mikubuntu> am i back?
[20:46] <vinnl> Yep :)
[20:46] <mikubuntu> k, i was on chatzilla b4, now xchat
[20:46] <mikubuntu> how do i get user list up in xchat?
[20:47] <vinnl> It should be on the right-hand side
[20:49] <mikubuntu> nope.
[20:50] <vinnl> Also nothing you can drag out?
[20:50] <mikubuntu> oh, i see, theres a little friend icon and you have to click to get it out.  i like czilla better i think
[20:50] <vinnl> Ah, you might have installed Xchat-GNOME
[20:50] <vinnl> Though I'm not a fan of Xchat either
[20:51] <mikubuntu> vidd, fonts are back
[20:51] <mikubuntu> problem must have been 'what you said'
[20:54] <vidd> =]
[20:55] <vidd> the "four hours of updating b4 i fell asleep" was the real clue
[20:56] <vidd> at least that was what i translated what ya said into
[20:56] <vidd> well....i have to attend a training session for work
[20:57] <vidd> later
[21:01] <Jmns> hello
[21:01] <vinnl> !hi
[21:01] <knome> !hi | vinnl
[21:01] <knome> ;)
[21:01] <vinnl> :)
[21:02] <Jmns> so, what's everybody media player of choice?
[21:02] <knome> Jmns, i use listen as it's the xubuntu default
[21:03] <vinnl> Mine is gmpc, but it's not quit easy to setup
[21:03] <vinnl> Using Banshee at the moment, and I like Rhythmbox as well
[21:03] <knome> vinnl, that's a frontend to mpd?
[21:03] <vinnl> knome, yep, and a good one at that :)
[21:03] <knome> heh
[21:04] <knome> vinnl, as you're browsing through my articles, you'll find an interesting article then :)
[21:04] <vinnl> knome, cool :)
[21:05] <knome> partly ontopic: np: album In Absentia by Porcupine Tree
[21:06] <Jmns> I find Exaile to be an awesome media player
[21:06] <vinnl> Exaile was quite good too, don't know why I stopped using that at a certain moment
[21:06] <mikubuntu> i like vlc
[21:06] <vinnl> I just got a notice of their latest blog post that a new alpha has been released :)
[21:06] <knome> mikubuntu, it's not that good at collection handling
[21:07] <mikubuntu> i don't use it a lot, watching videos is a luxury i can't afford too much of
[21:07] <Jmns> vlc it's like for single files, I can't see myself browsing thru a whole library of files with it
[21:07] <knome> mikubuntu, with a record collection of 550+ titles i can't think i'd enjoy using vlc as my main media player
[21:08] <Jmns> I guess I didn't made myself clear, I mean music media player
[21:08] <mikubuntu> but, i had this one courthouse video that i couldn't get to play with any other player and vlc handled it
[21:08] <knome> titles as records ;)
[21:08] <knome> not tracks
[21:08] <Jmns> thats ocd knome
[21:08] <knome> ocd?
[21:08] <mikubuntu> gotta run guys, work is calling
[21:09] <Jmns> obsesive compulsive disorder XD
[21:09] <knome> lol
[21:09] <Jmns> for videos I love SMPlayer
[21:09] <knome> Jmns, not really, it's more like a hobby
[21:09] <knome> Jmns, i don't love the cd's, i love the music
[21:09] <knome> but still i don't have to listen to the music all the time
[21:10] <knome> though seeing the cd's makes me feel calm..
[21:10] <knome> ;)
[21:10] <Jmns> lol
[21:10] <Jmns> once again... ocd
[21:10] <knome> haha
[21:12] <vinnl> I *do* have to listen to music *all* the time
[21:12] <knome> hehe
[21:12] <Jmns> I can't listen to certain music while typing something that requires an amount of focus
[21:12] <Jmns> it has to be instrumental music
[21:12] <knome> i do listen to music whenever i sit on my computer (that's a lot of hours per day), but still haven't got an mp3 player and not going to have one
[21:13] <Jmns> or songs that I don't know the lyrics
[21:13] <Jmns> otherwise I'll start to singalong
[21:13] <knome> Jmns, depends... you can listen to some rhytmic music
[21:13] <vinnl> Jmns, I always sing along, I must look like a retard :P
[21:13] <knome> vinnl, :D
[21:13] <vinnl> So yeah, I also need that sometimes :P
[21:14] <Jmns> I do!, i always singalong...
[21:14] <vinnl> Well, in the train I can often restrain myself... Though I do move my lips to the words xD
[21:15] <Jmns> it gets ridiculous while I'm driving
[21:15] <knome> i often play the air guitar and hum to the melodies
[21:15] <knome> ...
[21:15] <Jmns> one time a couple of chick started to singalong with me at a red light I guess I looked so into the song I got them inspired
[21:16] <knome> that must sound/look weird
[21:16] <Jmns> I play drum the steering wheel
[21:16] <vinnl> knome, me too :)
[21:16] <knome> oh, i also play the air drums
[21:16] <vinnl> Jmns, I can't wait until I've got my driver's license :)
[21:16] <vinnl> knome, I
[21:16] <knome> (and now and then beat my monitors)
[21:16] <vinnl> I even dance to m stuff :P
[21:16] <knome> vinnl, me too :P
[21:16] <knome> vinnl, *sit* and dance
[21:16] <knome> that must look ridiculous
[21:17] <vinnl> I'm now playing Slam by Pendulum, I don't know if you've seen the clip, but I do it like that :P
[21:17] <vinnl> Only without the belly xD
[21:17] <knome> haven't seen
[21:17] <Jmns> fat guy dancing
[21:17]  * knome looks
[21:18] <knome> vinnl, zomg
[21:18] <knome> :D
[21:18] <knome> that looks like me
[21:18] <knome> ;)
[21:18] <vinnl> xD
[21:18] <knome> don't like the music though
[21:18] <vinnl> I didn't at first too
[21:19] <vinnl> But then half my social circle got into this type of music and then I found this song available for Frets on Fire and now I like it :P
[21:19] <Jmns> pendulum rocks
[21:19] <vinnl> <3
[21:19] <knome> vinnl, ehm :)
[21:20] <Jmns> I got so much into dnb and jungle when I was younger
[21:20] <knome> my taste of music is such that any of my friends understand *all* of it
[21:21] <vinnl> My taste of music is more varied than anybody's
[21:21] <knome> that sounds like a challenge
[21:22] <Jmns> I'm glad my friends don't like the type of music I listen to
[21:22] <Jmns> I'm the type of person that's very anal about listening my music all over, I want it to be just mine!!!
[21:22] <knome> vinnl, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fqoZKyQhXc
[21:22] <vinnl> Oh I'd love it if more of my friends shared my musical taste
[21:22] <knome> Jmns, haha
[21:23] <knome> Jmns, i'm happy if i'm the one that has "found" a band, but i don't need to think the band's mine
[21:24] <vinnl> knome, yeah that especially :)
[21:24] <vinnl> <3 White Light Riot
[21:24] <knome> never heard ;)
[21:24] <vinnl> They're very much unknown but quite good :)
[21:24] <knome> <3 Evpatoria Report
[21:24] <Jmns> I do feel that way, I occasionally share my good bands
[21:26] <knome> it's also nice when you can say that you only like album X from the so-known band and justify why you don't like the other albums to the people who are HC fans of band X
[21:26] <vinnl> ^.^
[21:26] <jadez03> lol, Jmns, I was reading down and I read your earlier message as "I'm the type of person that's very open to anal"
[21:27] <knome> !language | jadez03
[21:27] <vinnl> knome, oh, we're playing by the rules now? Then we better move to #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:27] <knome> vinnl, !language is more important than !offtopic anytime, imho !offtopic only is valid when somebody wants help
[21:28] <Jmns> this ^
[21:28] <Jmns> as long as nobody is asking for help, one can go offtopic
[21:28] <knome> vinnl, and also i think that sometimes people chatting might get those shy people asking their question
[21:28] <vinnl> Good point
[21:29] <knome> vinnl, it's not like we captured this channel ;)
[21:30] <vinnl> np: Marvina Reynolds - Little Boxes... So yeah, my musical taste is varied :P
[21:31] <Jmns> Cujo - Cat People
[21:31] <knome> vinnl, you should hear the album by suburban sax, which has 3 tracks, playtime of 56:24 and basically consists of two guys playing saxofones
[21:31] <jadez03> apologies, didn't mean anything graphic
[21:31] <jadez03> just amused me
[21:31] <vinnl> Not a big fan of saxophones...
[21:32] <knome> jadez03, no problem, but just to keep the channel family-friendly in future also (things tend to build up very easily...)
[21:32] <knome> vinnl, ;)
[21:32] <knome> vinnl, but that music is just crazy.
[21:32] <Jmns> it's called saxamaphone knom, not saxofone
[21:32] <knome> doesn't sound like traditional sax playing ;)
[21:33] <vinnl> Yeah I would've checked them out already normally, except I'm on a USB drive and can't really download anything big. And of course I'd want to properly buy it, obviously ;-)
[21:33] <knome> vinnl, well it's a *really* rare album
[21:34] <knome> vinnl, even i had trouble finding it :P
[21:34] <vinnl> Hmm, how then am I going to hear it? :P
[21:35] <knome> i might be able to get some *cough* samples online
[21:44] <pteague> what's a good video capture program?
[21:45] <vinnl> pteague, recordmydesktop-gtk
[21:45] <pteague> what about from a video input source... i.e. pulling video off a camcorder
[21:46] <vinnl> Ah, ehm, wait, I knew one...
[21:48] <vinnl> Not sure if it's the one, but you might look into avidemux
[21:48] <vinnl> Otherwise perhaps Kino or Cinelerra
[21:49] <vinnl> Ah, Kino's the one I thnk :)
[21:49] <pteague> k, ty... i'll look those up :)
[23:39] <Simetrical> My weather applet has been saying "Cannot update weather data" for days now.  Any ideas on how to fix that?