/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/07/21/#launchpad-dev.txt

beunowgrant, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad05:16
=== fjlacoste is now known as flacoste
flacostemwhudson: is it possible that your branch is stuck in PQM?05:22
lifelesshttps://dev.launchpad.net/Getting05:22
lifelesswgrant: ^05:22
mwhudsonflacoste: it's possible, i guess spm is the man who'd know05:22
* thumper stretches in his new home05:24
jmlsmell that?05:29
jmlsmells like *freenode*05:29
thumperheh05:30
rockstar:)05:30
flacostegood night guys!05:31
=== flacoste is now known as flacoste_afk
thumpermwhudson: does loggerhead cause a test run?05:31
mwhudsonthumper: no05:31
thumpergood05:31
mwhudsonit probably causes a make build though05:31
thumperright05:31
thumperall this excitement and wgrant isn't around :)05:33
beunowe should close it again05:33
thumperbeuno: heh05:33
rockstarOh man, that's terrible...  :)05:33
jmlhaha05:34
thumperbeuno: your branch listing page is now the top of my stack05:34
beunothumper, awesomeness05:35
thumperspm: is pqm actually doing anything?05:36
spmthumper: yes. ssh'ing05:36
spmabout 7 mins ago05:37
thumperhi BjornT05:37
spmthumper: I had a stop patch in when I did tghe manual merge for flacoste earlier. forgot to remove it. my bad05:38
thumperspm: ta05:38
BjornThi thumper05:38
thumperBjornT: welcome to the brave new, public, world05:38
jmlhey guys :)05:39
deryckGlad I was up late tonight for the big moment. :)05:41
rockstarderyck, :)05:42
rockstarderyck, you're CDT, right?05:42
deryckrockstar, yup.05:42
LaserJockcongrats LP devs!05:43
thumperLaserJock: thanks05:43
jmlLaserJock, thanks :)05:43
BjornTderyck: i take it you won't be start working in 5 hours, like usual? :)05:43
deryckBjornT, no, I will actually. :)05:44
mwhudsonmy loggerhead branch landed at last05:44
deryckBjornT, there's always time for an afternoon nap, after work. :)05:44
LaserJockit wasn't clear from the announcement, is *all* of LP getting opened or is Soyuz (and Code hosting?) being held back?05:46
jmlit's all there.05:46
lifelessLaserJock: have a look at the code :P05:46
jmlLaserJock, wysiwyg :)05:46
jtvflacoste_afk: any chance of getting this crucial fix into the rollout? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jtv/launchpad/bug-401835/+merge/907405:46
jtvflacoste_afk: very last-minute I know, but QA has been a huge bottleneck since May.05:47
LaserJocklifeless: well, https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting said it can take a couple hours to get the code, I was hoping for a shortcut :-)05:47
mwhudsonLaserJock: it's the lot05:48
beunoLaserJock, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/changes05:49
rockstarbeuno, as if the servers weren't already going to take a beating, you link to loggerhead and watch it melt too.  :)05:50
jmlhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/db-devel/files/head%3A/lib/lp/05:50
jmleven better URL05:50
beuno:)05:50
beunostress test!05:50
* beuno is glad he worked on nice URLs for LH05:51
radixgrats everyone :)05:52
jmlradix, thanks :)05:53
thumperhi Hobbsee05:55
Hobbseehey thumper!05:55
HobbseeCongratulations all!05:55
spmhey Hobbsee, early birthday pressie for you :-)05:55
beuno:)05:55
jmlhi :)05:56
Hobbseespm: indeed!05:56
LaserJockwow, just wow05:56
lifelessHobbsee: we look forward to your patches ;)05:56
ScottKCongratulations everyone.05:56
jmlwuuu https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/branch-flow-utility05:56
LaserJockI can't believe this day has come :-)05:56
jmlmy first public Launchpad branch05:56
LaserJocksoo much code05:56
jmlLaserJock, yes. yes there is.05:56
beunoLaserJock, and so much history  ;)05:56
* mwhudson is very tempted to start drinking05:56
thumpermwhudson: me too05:57
thumpermwhudson: and since I'm going to be cooking dinner in about 15 minutes, I may well just pour a nice glass of pinot noir05:57
beunoit's 2am here, anything goes05:57
spmthumper: mwhudson: me three, but um, someone needs to make sure servers don't melt :-)05:57
rockstarmwhudson, _I_ am tempted to start drinking.  :)05:57
mwhudsonthumper: problem is, we really need to go shopping... i guess there's always pizza delivery :)05:58
jmlmwhudson, me too :)05:58
LaserJockis it generally going to require running a local instance of LP to work on bugs?05:58
thumperLaserJock: it certainly helps05:58
rockstarLaserJock, the tools to do that aren't terrible.05:59
jmlcjwatson, hi :)05:59
jmljoin the party :)05:59
* cjwatson waves woozily05:59
rockstarLaserJock, it's nothing like running the main LP servers.05:59
thumperspm: did flacoste_afk's branch land?05:59
thumperspm: I can't tell05:59
LaserJockrockstar: ok05:59
thumperspm: LP says nay05:59
thumperLaserJock: it is "make run" :)05:59
thumperLaserJock: if you've done the setup05:59
spmthumper: which one? I manually merged one. should be a listening to Brazilian Girls something05:59
ghindoI heard it was a party in here06:00
ghindoWould this be accurate?06:00
thumperspm: the one that he submitted just before going to bed06:00
rockstarghindo, as close to an IRC party as you can get.06:00
thumperspm: it was in the queue just a few minutes ago06:00
spmlooking....06:00
jmlkfogel, fwiw, I'm getting a lot of questions about whether or not soyuz & codehosting are included06:00
jtvg'day spm!  got my feature working.  :)06:01
thumperit wasn't very explicit was it?06:01
* beuno blogged about it06:01
LaserJockjml: yeah, everybody was told that soyuz and codehosting weren't going to be included06:02
jmlLaserJock, right.06:02
kfogelLaserJock: I'm about to send an announcement explaining that we chnaged our minds06:02
kfogelthey have been opened06:02
LaserJockI'm sure that will give Canonical some extra PR brownie points ;-)06:03
jacobsoyuz is included?06:03
mwhudsonjacob: yes06:03
LaserJockespecially since for a lot of us soyuz is particularly interesting06:03
jmlkfogel, cool :)06:03
jacobmwhudson: wow, wasn't expecting that. cool. :)06:03
kfogelLaserJock: let's hope it also gets us some patches, eh? :-)06:03
cjwatsonextra present for me when going to DebConf, one fewer question to answer :-)06:04
LaserJockkfogel: possibly06:04
LaserJockcjwatson: exactly06:04
rockstarcjwatson, :)06:04
jmlcjwatson, :D06:04
LaserJockI'll have to go through my LP bugs and see if there are any I dare trying to fix myself06:04
thumperspm: can you see why it didn't land?06:05
spmthumper: running precommit hook: /bin/false06:05
spmwhich tends to um fail06:05
ScottKcjwatson: If you see Phil Kern there, the fact that Soyuz got opened my affect his gsoc project ....06:05
LaserJockfrom what I've heard and what little I've seen, I still don't think contributing is going to be a trivial exercise06:05
thumperspm: d'uh06:05
thumperspm: I need to land a testfix branch to get buildbot to rebuild06:05
cjwatsonScottK: what's his gsoc project?06:05
spmthumper: hang on. there's a few in here. gimme a bit....06:05
mthaddonspm: we usually do that during release-critical to prevent landings to devel and push all landings to db-devel to avoid the amount of time it takes to get through to db-stable06:06
ScottKcjwatson: Rewriting the Debian build system.06:06
jtvsinzui, can you help me out with this?  I've got some zcml that uses a path_expression that needs to be updated.  The new version needs access to an element higher up in the path... can I do that?06:06
spmmthaddon: yeah... bac was falling afould of it earlier. francis did know, so not sure what's up06:06
mthaddonthumper: can you resubmit flacoste's branch to db-devel?06:07
cjwatsonScottK: mm. I think Debian's pretty attached to its own system, I'd be surprised to see them switch to ...06:08
cjwatson... LP1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...06:08
thumpermthaddon: I could manually merge devel into db-devel06:08
cjwatson... 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 ...06:08
cjwatson... 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111106:08
cjwatsondoh. sorry!06:08
cjwatsonswitch to LP, is what I meant to say06:08
mthaddonchannel spam!! :)06:08
ScottKcjwatson: Agreed, but it's always interesting to see how someone else solved the problem.06:08
ajmitchsomeone's overly excited :)06:08
ScottKcjwatson: I expect there may be lesson's learned he can now take advantage of.06:08
mthaddonthumper: that'll happen anyway as a matter of course (devel -> stable -> db-devel)06:09
cjwatsonajmitch: stuck key repeat due to load :-(06:09
thumpermthaddon: well it won't06:09
* ScottK goes to bed ....06:09
* mwhudson opens a beer06:09
thumpermthaddon: as devel isn't building06:09
thumpermthaddon: which is what I'm trying to fix06:09
mthaddonthumper: oh, I see06:10
jml"Launchpad is a Ruby on Rails blogging platform and CMS. It has categories and tags, RSS, a plugin architecture and theme architecture, and more. It's inspired by Wordpress." -- wtf06:10
jmlthe name Launchpad has been taken on ohloh :(06:10
beunoLOL06:10
thumperhah06:10
thumpermthaddon: so... what do we do here?06:10
mthaddonthumper: I can temp open it up for you to kick it06:10
jmlbut the url https://www.ohloh.net/p/launchpad is free.06:10
thumpermthaddon: that be good06:10
mthaddonthumper: you ready to do that now?06:11
beunojml, trigger the import06:11
beunothey'll have fun  :)06:11
jmlbeuno, I have to come up with a name first.06:11
beunowonder if they have an up-to-date version of bzr that can handle 2a06:11
thumpermthaddon: gimmie a minute06:11
mthaddonk06:11
jmlbeuno, interesting question!06:12
ajmitchproblems with branches already? I'm getting 404 on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup06:12
ajmitchnot a standard launchpad page saying that the page isn't found, just a boring "Not found" page06:13
beunoI think that the link is wrong06:13
lifelessno rev on it06:13
beunono?06:13
jmlhmm. ohloh gives 'https://code.launchpad.net/myproject/trunk' as an example branch url :\06:14
beunomwhudson, shouldn't there be a /files/?06:14
ajmitchhttps://dev.launchpad.net/Getting will need updated with a working link then06:14
deryckSee you all back in a few hours. :)06:14
lifelessajmitch: you can edit the wiki apge :)06:14
* deryck sleeps06:14
thumpermthaddon: ready now06:14
ajmitchlifeless: I need a working link first :)06:14
lifelessgetting that06:14
mwhudsonajmitch: bzr cat of that url really should work06:14
spmajmitch: that's not a http page - that's a bzr cat to the URL06:14
mthaddonthumper: go for it06:14
lifelesshttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/annotate/head:/utilities/rocketfuel-setup06:15
jmlbeuno, yeah, looks like it doesn't support 2a yet.06:15
lifelesshttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/annotate/head:/utilities/rocketfuel-setup06:15
lifelessajmitch: ^06:15
mwhudsonlifeless: no06:15
lifelessmwhudson: no?06:15
spmno! don't send folks via loggerhead!06:15
ajmitchspm: ok, it was bzr cat that was failing for me, honest :)06:15
thumpermthaddon: ok, it's in the queue06:15
mwhudsonlifeless: the instructions are for bzr cat <that url>06:15
jmlnow, where did I put that diagram06:15
lifelessmwhudson: ah06:15
mthaddonthumper: k, will wait til it's through and then turn it back off06:15
lifelessI'm sure lh will survive:)06:16
mwhudsonwhy it's not working for ajmitch i don't know06:16
ajmitchbzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup/: Unable to handle http code 404: Not Found06:16
ajmitchis the real error I got06:16
mwhudsonyeah, lh is holding up reasonably well06:16
lifelessajmitch: get rid of the trailing /06:16
mwhudsonajmitch: what version of bzr are you using?06:16
ajmitch1.16.106:16
lifelessajmitch: although bzr may be adding that06:16
beunospm, common!  LH hasn't failed in what, 2 days?  3?06:16
lifelessajmitch: intercepting proxy?06:16
ajmitchbzr is06:16
spmbeuno: edge update/restart about 6 hours ago. I win. QED etc :-P06:16
ajmitchI'll unset http_proxy & see if it helps06:17
LaserJockajmitch: I get the same06:17
LaserJockand I have no proxy06:17
ajmitchno difference06:17
beunospm, that's just out of habit, I'm sure06:17
* mwhudson tries with 1.16.106:17
mwhudsonajmitch: do you have pycurl installed?06:18
ajmitchLaserJock: I'm glad it's not just me going mad06:18
thumpermthaddon: I have to go and start cooking now, will check back in about 10 minutes06:18
* mwhudson clutches at straws06:18
LaserJockajmitch: well .... it could be both of us ;-)06:18
mthaddonso what's the actual command you're running that's failing?06:18
ajmitchmwhudson: I do06:18
kfogelwgrant: ping06:18
lifelessI think everyone has been underestimating the load we can handle :P06:18
LaserJockmthaddon:  bzr cat http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup > rocketfuel-setup06:19
ajmitchmthaddon: bzr cat http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup > rocketfuel-setup06:19
kfogellifeless: yes -- habitual paranoia, but so far no problems06:19
lifelessajmitch: it works for me06:20
mthaddonme too...06:20
lifelesstakes its own sweet time (but I'll be spanked if I tell you better url's to use :P)06:20
mwhudsonbzr 1.16.1 seems to be taking aaages06:20
lifelessajmitch: is it possible you have an intercepting proxy doing the wrong thing06:20
ajmitchit's not instantly failing if I try on another box at work, running jaunty06:20
mwhudsonlifeless: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/annotate/head:/utilities/rocketfuel-setup > rocketfuel-setup isn't going to get you a very useful shell script06:21
lifelessmwhudson: lp:06:21
ajmitchit's possible, but I'm not aware of any proxy in the way06:21
LaserJockit's failing rather quickly for me06:21
lifelessajmitch: do this please06:21
LaserJockon Jaunty with bzr 1.16.106:21
lifelessLaserJock: you too06:21
lifelesswget -S http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/.bzr/repository/pack-names06:21
ajmitchok, I get a failure on jaunty on a computer with a different ISP about branch version at least06:21
LaserJocklifeless: that works fine06:22
mwhudson1.16 worked for me06:22
ajmitchlifeless: that grabbed a file06:22
mwhudson(and i do have an intercepting proxy, thanks voda!)06:22
lifelessLaserJock: ajmitch: I want to see the headers you got06:22
ajmitchone second06:23
ajmitchhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/223265/06:23
lifelessajmitch: thats from the failing machine?06:24
ajmitchyes06:24
LaserJocklifeless: you mean this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223266/ ?06:24
lifelessok, you seem to be getting the right root node then06:24
lifelesstry running the command again with -Derror -Dtransport06:25
LaserJocklifeless: the wget or bzr command?06:25
lifelessbzr06:25
mwhudsonajmitch, LaserJock: the script we're trying to get is here btw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223269/06:25
cjwatsonI'm seeing bzr cat fail too06:25
mwhudson(in case you want to get the pull running in the background)06:25
jkakarCongratulations Launchpad team.  It's great to see this happen. :)06:25
cjwatsonwget -S: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223270/06:26
ajmitchhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/223271/ for the updated bzr cat output06:26
cjwatson-Derror -Dtransport shows a traceback: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223272/06:26
ajmitchmwhudson: thanks06:26
LaserJocklifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223273/06:27
cjwatsonI'm on Karmic with bzr 1.1706:27
cjwatsonerr, or rather bzr 1.17~rc1-106:27
lifelessah06:27
lifelessits bzr-svn FAIL06:27
mwhudsoner ah eh06:27
mwhudsonbzr-svn!!06:27
lifelessrun with --no-plugins06:27
mwhudsonyeah06:27
ajmitchaha06:28
lifelessmw care to get the karma for filing the bug? :)06:28
mwhudsoni guess i'll edit the wiki page06:28
ajmitchok, I'm getting some progress fetching stuff now :)06:28
cjwatson--no-plugins works06:29
lifelessmwhudson: care to get the karma for filing the bug? :)06:29
mwhudsonlifeless: looking now06:29
LaserJocklifeless: --no-plugins works for me as well06:29
mthaddonthumper: success06:30
lifelessits open_containing failing is all06:30
jmlrs=me :(06:32
mwhudsonjml: what?06:32
mwhudsonoh06:32
jmlsomeone just landed a revision with that tag.06:32
nxvlhi, is there any ppa where i can get a bazaar that allows me to download the LP codE?06:32
ajmitchlifeless: thanks for tracking that down06:32
mwhudsonnxvl: ~bzr ppa?06:32
mwhudsonajmitch: sorry for not testing harder06:32
nxvlmwhudson: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa that one?06:33
mwhudsonnxvl: yeah06:33
* mwhudson notices that 1.17 arrived there 17 minutes ago...06:33
LaserJockwhat's User sabdfl for in Host bazaar.launchpad.dev for the ssh config?06:34
spivHeh.06:34
spivconvenience of manual testing of the ssh server; 'sabdfl' is one of the users in the sample data.06:35
LaserJockah, i see06:35
LaserJockbut all this /etc/hosts and ssh config munging is local, right?06:36
thumperjml: I just copied what flacoste_afk did :)06:36
thumpermthaddon: thanks, I'm EOD now06:36
mthaddonthumper: me too :)06:36
jmlLaserJock, yeah, that's local.06:37
jmlspiv, and that's obsoleted convenience -- ./utilities/make-lp-user <your-user-name> is much nicer.06:37
* spiv nods06:37
thumpermwhudson: want to copy the using lp codehosting to dev.launchpad.net?06:38
mwhudsonlifeless: it's a bit odd, open_containing_tree_or_branch doesn't fail with my local apache06:38
mwhudsonbut surely does against bazaar.launchpad.net06:39
mwhudsonthumper: ok, filing a bzr-svn bug first06:39
thumpermwhudson: ok06:39
* thumper is really away now06:39
lifelessmwhudson: fun06:39
mwhudsonlifeless: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-svn/+bug/402063 anyway06:40
ubot3Malone bug 402063 in bzr-svn "bzr-svn breaks open_containing_branch_or_tree against bazaar.launchpad.net" [Undecided,New]06:40
jmlI hadn't seen that doc before06:41
mwhudsonjml: you mean the doc i wrote this morning?06:42
jmlmwhudson, yeah. :)06:42
jmlmwhudson, I saw the timestamp, but I'd never knew that such a doc was brewing06:42
mwhudsonjml: thumper kept bugging me about it in standups06:43
* jml is obviously a terrible listener.06:44
henningeI am here ...06:44
henninge!06:44
mwhudson:)06:44
mwhudsonjml: now at https://dev.launchpad.net/Code/HowToUseCodehostingLocally, any idea where to link to it from?06:45
henningespm: Can you please clear the translation import queue on staging for me? If jtv does not object ...06:45
* jtv does not object06:45
henningespm: "delete from translationimportqueueentry"06:45
spmhenninge: sure. one sec.06:45
jmlmwhudson, probably from https://dev.launchpad.net/Code for now06:46
jtvspm: may take a while to replicate...06:46
jtvwe're talking what, 150K entries?06:46
jmlmwhudson, I just added the system diagram there.06:46
spmhenninge: jtv: DELETE 129367 commit>06:47
spm?06:47
henningespiv: please do.06:47
henningespm: ^06:47
spmfail :-)06:47
spmhenninge: commited06:47
* jtv plugs ears06:47
* jtv squats under table06:47
henninge%§Ω#* auto-completion06:47
henningejtv: all is well06:48
mwhudsonjml: done06:48
henningespm: thank you06:48
jtvhenninge: and the one place where you really want auto-completion nobody ever wants to implement it.  I keep asking for tab password completion, but do they listen?06:48
jmlmwhudson, woot.06:48
henningejtv: Sounds like the next Windows feature for me!06:49
jtvhenninge: well Windows doesn't have that problem.  "Hi, you typed the wrong password 3 times.  Would you like to create a new one?"06:49
jtvlifeless: had a bit of weirdness with my bzr branches if I build my TransformPreview but do not go on to commit anything...  when I unlock the branch it says the lock was broken.06:52
jtvlifeless: as if the info file wasn't found for some extraneous reason (never moved into place unless I commit maybe?)06:52
henningespm: can you please run the poimport script on staging for me. It is running from cron every 20 min but for speed I'd appreciate a manual run.06:52
lifelessprobably there is a transform thing you need to call to tell it you're not recording the result06:52
jtvlifeless: any idea who might know?06:53
henningespm: "cronscripts/rosetta-poimport.py"  just that06:53
lifelessjtv: abentley; but - show me the backtrace06:53
jtvspm: btw is it really 20 minutes?  That's fine, but istrm we had it set up for much fewer runs initially.06:53
spmjtv: yah. every 2006:53
jtvspm: that's great, thanks.06:54
jtvmakes QA a lot easier.06:54
spmhenninge: running06:54
jtvlifeless: hang on, I'll reproduce.06:54
spmhenninge: done. I should have waited.06:54
jtvThe problem!  The problem!  I'll reproduce _the problem_!06:54
henningespm: thanks. why?06:56
spmhenninge: normally poimport runs for ages. finished in < 30 secs06:56
henningespm: that's because we cleared the queue first!06:56
jtvspm: ages?  Shouldn't—after 8 minutes (iirc) it stops taking on jobs and leaves the rest of the queue to the next script run.06:57
mwhudsonso is the news going to hit slashdot, i wonder...06:58
* maco hugs all06:58
spmjtv: I may be talking based on old info - but I can find out if desirable?06:58
LaserJockmwhudson: and digg and LWN and ...06:58
mwhudsonLaserJock: yeah06:58
mwhudsonbut i think the slashdot effect is still real, all these years on06:59
jtvspm: hmm... would be nice to know—yes please.06:59
jtvlifeless: https://pastebin.canonical.com/20127/07:02
lifelessjtv: pastebin.ubuntu.com these days, surely :)07:03
lifelessjtv: brand new world07:03
jtvlifeless: oh, I wasn't aware of that one.  I just type "paste" and let my browser figure out the rest.07:03
lifelesssorry, paste.ubuntu.com07:04
lifelesswell, open :)07:04
lifelessso, something is holding a lock on the branch07:04
jtvlifeless: I am.07:04
lifelessoh actually07:05
jtvA write lock.  And when I unlock it, boom.07:05
lifelessthat message says 'the lock was broken while open'07:05
lifelessso perhaps something deleted the branch?07:05
lifelessits in your teardown07:05
lifelessis it possible you're causing 'rm -rf', 'branch.unlock()' to happen, in that order?07:05
henningespm: I'd like to put staging into read-only mode for a few minutes.07:06
spmhenninge: ? why not just use the slave?07:06
henningespiv: This is a patch that does that, can you apply it please and restart staging? https://pastebin.canonical.com/20128/07:06
beunoalready on it's way to digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Canonical_releases_complete_source_code_for_Launchpad07:06
henningespm: No, the fix I am QA'ing checks that configuration directive.07:07
henningespm: The bug is specifically about read-only mode.07:07
henningebug 38085207:08
jtvlifeless: it's the first teardown I do, afaik.  I could try doing the unlock explicitly at an earlier stage; hang on.07:08
henningebug #38085207:08
ubot3Malone bug 380852 in rosetta "translation page shows editable fields while in read only mode" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38085207:08
henningeah!07:08
henningespm: is the restart still such a pain with buildout?07:09
jtvlifeless: you're right, it happens in the teardown but not if I unlock before then.07:10
jtvlifeless: maybe useBzrBranches puts its cleanup in the wrong place?07:10
spmhenninge: patched and restarted07:11
henningespm: great!07:12
lifelessjtv: use addCleanup rather than tearDown07:12
jtvlifeless: already made that change in an as-yet unlanded branch, though it wasn't enough to fix the problem.07:13
henningespm: thank you very much! Everything works as expected.07:16
spmhenninge: revert?07:16
henningespm: Can you just revert or would you like a patch?07:16
spmrevert is fine07:16
henningespm: ;-)07:16
henningespm: please do07:16
* henninge is blazing through the test plan here ...07:17
spmhenninge: is back07:17
henningespm: cool, that was a great help!07:17
VK7HSEjust in the throws of setting up a local copy of LP here... \o/07:18
jtvVK7HSE: I hope that's "throes," not "exception throws" :)07:19
VK7HSEyeah something like that !!! ;)07:19
\shwhat did I read? LP is opensourced? Congrats to everybody involved...good job :)07:20
jtvI guess the word is out then07:21
VK7HSEhttps://dev.launchpad.net/Getting07:21
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beunoCOPYNPASTE FAIL07:23
beunoshould go to bed07:23
mwhudsonfailures in buildbot :(07:25
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mwhudsonall seemingly to do with uncollectable garbage :(07:26
jmlmwhudson, actually no.07:26
mwhudsonno?07:27
jmlmwhudson, one of them is to do with the move of bzr to buildout.07:27
mwhudsonjml: oh "yay" ?07:27
jmlmwhudson, it ought to be fixed when my branch is finished running through ec2test.07:27
mwhudsonjml: oh ok07:27
jmlexcept that's going to db-devel07:28
jmlhmm.07:28
henningejtv: any clue how to best QA bug #388473 ?07:30
ubot3Malone bug 388473 in rosetta "POTMsgSets on page not in ascending sequence order" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38847307:30
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jtvhenninge: in a case like this I'd just make sure that the page works properly, and let the oops reports show that the bug is gone.07:31
henningejtv: cool, can do that ;)07:31
jmlmwhudson, and hey, that just finished with ec2test. I'll retarget the branch for devel & land appropriately07:32
kfogelmwhudson, jml: yeah, somewhere we need to explain our four trunks thing, in the dev wiki...07:32
thekorncongrats everybody!07:32
kfogelthekorn: hey there!  Thank you.  Enjoy :-).07:32
jmlkfogel, yes. but not today :)07:32
kfogeljml: indeed07:32
emilis_infohow can I remove all changes introduced  by rocketfuel-setup?07:36
emilis_infoI didn't expect it to mess up my Apache+PHP setup07:37
jmlemilis_info, good question!07:39
thekornwow, and soyus and codehosting too, awesome07:39
thekornyou must have a good PR manager, nice bluff ;)07:40
jmlemilis_info, there's isn't an automatic way of doing it, probably best to look at the script itself.07:40
emilis_infoheh07:40
LaserJockthekorn: that's what I was thinking ;-)07:40
emilis_infoI think you should recommend installing it on a separate / virtual machine, because it touches so many places it can break something for a lot of people07:41
noodles775Morning07:44
jtvhi noodles775!07:44
noodles775Hiya jtv, gee you've been around early and late lately? QA to finish?07:45
henningejtv: even better, there is  a link in the sequence bug that fails on  production but succeeds on edge - QAed!07:45
jtvnoodles775: yeah, QA's been a real bottleneck for the past few months.  Finally got a full end-to-end QA on production though, so pretty cool.07:46
jtvnoodles775: I've worked about 2.5 working days so far this week.  :)07:46
noodles775Sheesh07:46
jtvhenninge: perfect.07:46
jtvhenninge: that reminds me... I do _not_ plan to do much more today.  I finished at 5 AM and got back to work at 11 AM, and the most crucial thing is done.07:47
henningejtv: you are tough!07:47
jtvhenninge: would you mind having a very quick standup soon and then doing without me?07:47
jtvhenninge: I'm stupid.07:47
henningejtv: what is the crucial thing?07:47
henningejtv: I don't mind at all!07:47
jtvhenninge: there was yet another bzr hiccup.  Tickling yet another part of bzrlib that Launchpad hadn't touched yet.07:48
henningeoh, bzrlib07:49
jtvyes, when you reference a directory you need to look up or create an id for it.  And first you need to do the same for its parents.07:51
jtvBut the lookup doesn't work for directories you just created, only for ones that were already in the committed branch.07:52
henningespm: how much longer will you be around?07:52
jtvSo if you had n files in the same directory d, where d was not in the committed branch, I'd create d n times.07:52
lifelessjtv: meep!07:52
spmhenninge: -22 minutes. I just haven't had a chance to sign off yet. :-)07:52
jtvlifeless: hey, this stuff is obvious to you, Here Be Dragons for us.  :)07:53
henningespm: ok, enjoy the evening, then. Thanks for your  help!07:53
lifelessjtv: well, you're using tree transforms, which I'm not actually familiar with07:53
jtvlifeless: see?  Going Where No Man Has Gone Before.07:53
jtvspm: the script timings look good to me.07:54
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jtvspm: that's good to know.07:55
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noodles775mwhudson: do you know if there's a general problem with imports at the moment, or have I just mis-reviewed some, like this one:08:04
noodles775https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/cairo-dock/trunk08:04
noodles775There seem to be a lot of failures when I was CHR yesterday.08:04
jmlspm, PQM is now rejecting my branches with "Executing pre-commit hook /bin/false at Tue Jul 21 08:06:41 2009"08:11
noodles775jml: I had that yesterday, but it was because I was trying to submit to devel rather than db-devel?08:12
jmlyeah. I'm deliberately submitting to devel.08:13
emmajanecongrats on the announcement!!08:16
jmlemmajane, thanks :)08:18
popey\o/ well done08:19
henningejtv: is that ok? <dpm> kyleN: the only thing is that it'll probably have to wait until tomorrow, I've got a meeting in 30 min.08:20
henninge<kyleN> ok.08:20
emmajanejml: I'll be sure to gloat on your behalf at oscon :)08:20
henningeoops, where did that come from ... ???08:21
jml:D08:21
jtvhenninge: paste from old backlog?08:21
henningejtv: probably.08:21
henningejtv: what I meant to paste: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faq/61908:21
mwhudsonnoodles775: that's just cscvs being lame abount reconnecting i think08:22
* mwhudson AFK REALLY08:23
noodles775OK, thanks mwhudson08:23
jtvmwhudson: bye08:23
jtvhenninge: looks about right, apart from the tone maybe...  what about it?08:24
henningejtv: ok, i'll change it ... ;-)08:24
henningejtv: you are talking about the en_GB remark, tright?08:25
jtvhenninge: oh, you just wrote this?  Great.  Few suggestions...08:25
jtvThat's the main one, yes.08:25
a_c_mcongrats!08:25
jtvAlso, don't say "iso," but "ISO 639."  Also note that we prefer two-letter codes over three-letter codes if both are available.08:25
jtva_c_m: thanks08:25
jtvhenninge: also, there are two "levels" of exceptions to the country-code rule.  I think it would be useful to distinguish them.08:26
a_c_mhopefully means it will get some love from the wider community and perhaps spawn something that can give github a run for its money :)08:26
jtvhenninge: there are the exceptional _languages_ that really are meant to have separate codes: pt_BR, zh_CN, zh_TW.08:27
jtvhenninge: then there are the exceptional _cases_ where adding a more specific country code may be justified, e.g. es_MX.08:27
jtvhenninge: and finally there is English.  English is assumed to be US English, and it's assumed to be the source language, so en_GB is justified as an exceptional "case" as above.08:28
henningejtv: but en_GB is active whereas es_MX isn't.08:29
jtvhenninge: yes, that's another level of distinction: some specialized languages are more desirable than others.08:30
henningejtv: I think for the FAQ I'll just mention the first case and refer to the second as "Other special cases may be allowed on a pre-project basis."08:30
jtvhenninge: as long as it's clear that the "default" country should definitely not be used, and there are a few exceptions where the country is always included.08:31
jtvhenninge: I also wouldn't say there's no list of languages when you also point to the page where people can query the list.  Just complement it with a pointer to the ISO-639 lists.08:31
henningeok08:32
jtvhenninge: finally, you may want to note that we don't support collective language codes.08:32
jtvhenninge: e.g. "Indo-European (other)."  No point in translating to that!08:32
henningejtv: good point!08:32
jtvhenninge: you did open a can of worms here: don't forget variants.  :-)  "Minimally supported for imports, but not in the UI."08:33
jtvhenninge: and after that, we can have that quick call and I can bugger off.  :)08:34
henningejtv: right ... ;-)08:34
jtvhenninge: just let me know when you're done.08:35
jmlg'night all.08:38
jmlhappy hacking08:38
noodles775'night jml08:39
henningejtv: I am done: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faq/61908:44
jtvhenninge: don't say "not the same as the language code"—that suggests that nb_NO and sv_SE are OK (and that ar_AR is not okay for the wrong reason)08:45
henningejtv: ok, I also forgot the language group rule08:46
jtvhenninge: say something like "the language's home country."08:46
jtvhenninge: typo: excpetions08:47
jtvhenninge: also, exceptions for "de_AT" are a very different matter from exceptions for "de_DE."  I'd still keep the two separate: _never_ use de_DE, but _avoid_ de_AT.08:48
* ddaa notices that the dev.launchpad.net wiki still points to SQLObject in the "External documentation" section08:48
ddaahasn't the code base switched to STORM a while ago?08:48
jtvddaa: yes it did08:48
jtvddaa: this is something for the Foundations folks (flacoste and team)08:49
jtvstub, you maybe?08:49
noodles775ddaa: parts of the code still use SQLBase via Storms SQLBase support (as a transition)08:49
henningejtv: I'll not mention those, I think that is covered by "please try without them first."08:49
ddaajtv: just drop the link already, before people start being confused and saying "Hey launchpad uses SQLObject, not STORM"08:50
jtvhenninge: which ones?08:50
henningejtv: _avoid_ using ...08:50
jtvddaa: sorry, my head is exploding in slow-motion, not opening another tab right now!08:50
jtvhenninge: if you insist...  Got more:08:51
jtvThe first bullet point needs punctuation.  In fact I'd hoist it out of the bullet-points list and replace the leading line with "Launchpad uses ISO-639 language codes: two-letter ISO-639-1 codes where available (link) and three-letter ISO-639-3 codes for other languages (link).08:53
jtvhenninge: if you don't like that, then insert a comma before the "or" and remove the full stop after "nds."08:54
jtvhenninge: In the second bullet point, I'd say "do not include the country code except in a few exceptional cases."  "Append a specific country code" doesn't sound like the sort of thing a non-programmer would suspect themselves of doing.08:56
jtvhenninge: btw you can resolve the dichotomy between de_DE and de_AT by replacing "NOT it_IT, es_ES but also not fr_BE" with: "NOT it_IT, es_ES, but also avoid fr_BE"08:57
beeman_nlhi guys, cheers on open sourcing Launchpad! great thing!08:58
beeman_nlwhen i try to install it on Jaunty (32bit) i get the following error: bzr: ERROR: Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar repository format 2a (needs bzr 1.16 or later)\n'08:59
beeman_nlany clues on what that can be?08:59
LaserJockbeeman_nl: that you need to have bzr version 1.16 or later?08:59
jmarsdenbeeman_nl: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting     (you need a newer version of bzr)09:00
BjornTddaa: thanks, i fixed the link to point to storm instead09:00
jtvhenninge: next, are you sure it's safe to say "because they are really considered separate languages"?  We don't want to be showered in email about how different people's local dialects are different.  In this case I'd only say that the country codes are needed for these languages, and not go into the why.09:00
jtvhenninge: (I also wouldn't want to go into how Cantonese and Mandarin are completely different languages yet they get the exact same language codes, whereas Mandarin (Simplified) and Mandarin (Traditional) are the same language but get different codes :-)09:02
beeman_nlLaserJock, jmarsden: excuse me, i did'nt read that well (it's early up here)09:02
jtvhenninge: ahhh, the page is magically updating as I type this.  :-)09:02
* henninge edits and save like a madman09:03
henningejtv: done it again09:04
* jtv chuckles09:04
henningejtv: I think we should leave it at that now. As you said, it is a can of worms.09:04
jtvhenninge: sure.  It's good to have this documented, so thanks for taking the trouble.09:05
jtvhenninge: does that mean we can have the call?09:06
henningejtv: call!09:06
cbx333Hi guys09:18
cbx333anyway to just get the latest revison from the branch instead of the entire history09:18
cbx333??09:18
bigjoolsuse a checkout instead of a branch09:19
cbx333so do i edit the rocketfuel scripts?09:19
bigjoolsyeah, there's a bzr branch somewhere, just make it a bzr checkout09:20
cbx333ok cool09:20
cbx333wanted to check it out, but didn't want to branch the whole thing09:20
cbx333at the moment it's just a quick test09:20
bigjoolsit's only about 150M to branch09:20
spivbzr currently isn't very optimised for getting just the current revision, unfortunately.09:21
spivIt shouldn't be too hard to fix, but it just hasn't bubbled to the top of the todo list yet.09:22
cbx333that's cool09:22
cbx333bzr: ERROR: Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar repository format 2a (needs bzr 1.16 or later)\n'09:23
cbx333hmmm09:24
cbx333I'm on 9.0409:24
cbx333i should be ok right?09:24
noodles775cbx333: bzr --version ?09:24
spiv1.16 is only about a month old; you need bzr from the bzr PPA I think.09:25
cbx333ahh doh09:25
cbx333ko09:25
bigjools1.16.1 has some essential fixes in it IIRC09:25
spivYeah, I meant 1.16.1.  1.17 is even better!09:26
cbx333hehe09:26
spiv(and is already available in the ~bzr PPA)09:26
bigjoolscool09:28
* cbx333 grabs09:28
cbx333:)09:29
* gmb rubs his eyes...09:34
gmbWhy are all these people looking in at me?09:34
gmbAah, that's it. We must be open source now. Bon.09:35
an7Anyone tried installing launchpad on Debian? Anyone know if it will definitely not work?09:35
* cbx333 pokes gmb09:37
cbx333wakey wakey09:37
proppyan7: is there a debian package yet ?09:38
an7proppy, no idea - was looking at doing it from bzr09:39
proppyan7: maybe there is a ppa for you to play with09:40
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* silbs checks out the new digs09:48
gmban7: AFAIK, no-one's ever tried installing it on debian.09:48
gmban7: May eat your cat, etc... but give it a shot and let us know :)09:48
silbswell done, guys09:48
bigjoolssilbs!09:49
silbsbigjools!09:49
bigjoolssilbs, are you thinking of swapping the day job?  You're in a dev channel now :)09:49
\shguys...I understand that all correctly, it comes even with the build infrastructure parts of LP (aka soyuz?)09:50
silbsbigjools: I hear this is the place to come if I want to contribute code to LP ;)09:50
bigjoolssilbs: patches welcome! ;)09:50
gmb\sh: Yes.09:50
bigjools\sh: yes, soyuz is open09:50
bigjools\sh: if you have any questions about soyuz, I'm here to help.09:51
\shbigjools: I'll install it tomorrow on my buildserver in our DC...so I'll come and ask ;)09:52
\shbigjools: btw..which possibilities for chroots do you have? lvm+xen+sbuild or also other ways?09:55
bigjools\sh: we only handle sbuild right now (well, the custom version of it we have in the tree)09:56
mpt_beuno, the Launchpad front page is missing the sentence "All of it." in 48-pt font10:04
elmobeuno: and <blink>10:06
taconeis it already opensource ? i thought it was postponed.10:06
* stub hands silbs his hat and goes out for a beer10:07
gmbtacone: It's open. It was never postponed, we just wanted to make sure that everything was working, so we didn't want to pin it on a specific date and then let everyone down.10:07
taconek10:07
taconecongratulations.10:08
taconethanks for the info, bye10:08
* jtv afks10:12
walterlhi. so is there somewhere/somehow i can just get the code in stead of having to download and install the whole of lp?10:17
gmbwalterl: I'm not sure I understand the question. If you bzr branch lp:launchpad you're just getting the code. If you're looking for a tarball, no, there isn't one available.10:18
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* silbs gives back stub 's hat, and takes his beer instead10:21
* stub stabs silbs in the face10:22
silbswow, talk about escalation!10:23
stubMine! Mine!10:23
* bigjools grabs popcorn and watches10:23
* silbs passes out beers to everyone ;)10:23
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walterlgmb: thanks :)10:24
* cbx333 passes out victory slushies10:34
lifelessmwhudson: hey10:49
lifelesshttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/10:49
lifelessmouse over mplayer there10:49
lifelessread the comment (128 days old)10:49
lifelessthen click on it10:49
lifelessand look at the trunk10:49
mwhudsonlifeless: that looks wrong10:50
lifelessyes, it does10:50
deryckMorning, all.10:59
bigjoolsmornign deryck11:01
bigjoolsand morning, too11:01
\shbigjools: another question regarding soyuz and the underlaying infrastructure: you configure/install as well a full fletched archive infrastructure with it, or is it still self implementable (thinking about wanna-build infra etc.)11:04
bigjools\sh: I don't understand your question11:05
\shbigjools: do you ship an automatical archive management with the rocketfull setup? or do the admin installs/configure  the archive stuff him/herself?11:08
bigjools\sh: it needs to be configured11:09
* \sh 's testinstalling now @home...let's see where it will take me ;)11:11
lifeless\sh: rf-setup gets the source for development ;P - deployment is a _whole nother problem_11:14
\shlifeless: I just wondered if you bring all the stuff with the source tree, and it just needs to be configured to sane defaults for your own infra...(and/or setting up cron jobs etc.) and regarding the explanation on d.l.n/Getting : it starts to deploy at least a minimum ;)11:17
\shlooks like that bazaar.launchpad.net is under heavy load ;)11:18
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prusnakhi11:44
bigjoolshello11:45
prusnakthe first command from launchpad get the source howto stalls:11:45
prusnakbzr --no-plugins cat http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup > rocketfuel-setup11:45
prusnakdo you know what is wrong ?11:45
bigjoolsI think the servers/links are a little loaded, someone is looking at it to see if it can be improved11:46
stubbigjools: lucille's db connection is being killed about every two hours (long running but idle transaction).11:56
stubLast one 4 hours ago, so maybe it is ok now?11:57
awilkinsI think the LP server for the LP sources is a bit.... hammered at the moment :-)12:01
markustJust a short: T H A N K   Y O U ! This is *really* great news. Especially since soyuz and codehosting are included. This is a huge step forwards. I'm just hoping Canonical will make a brazillion with it's services. :-) Keep up the good work!12:01
bigjoolsstub: that's not pleasant, how long has it been happening?12:02
bigjoolsmarkust: great, I hope you can get involved with the code!12:03
lifelessprusnak: it should be better now12:03
stubFirst notification I have was from 14 hours ago. Then 11, 8, 7 and 4 hours ago.12:03
stubKilling lucille(11230), 2009-07-21 06:51:54.161602+01:00, 2009-07-21 06:51:54.638500+01:0012:03
bigjoolsstub: do you know which query?12:07
an7$ bzr --no-plugins cat http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup12:07
an7bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/.bzr/repository/packs/34bf81ec32ec262a521009fd975bfad1.pack: Missing the Content-Range header in a 206 range response12:07
an7anyone seen that?12:07
stubbigjools: There would have been no active query - that is why it was killed. The script will have been sitting around doing something non-db related for an hour.12:07
gmban7: bazaar.lp.net is getting hammered and is hiccuping a bit at the moment. Someone's looking at it to see if matters can be improved12:08
bigjoolsoh idle txn, ok12:08
an7thanks gmb, will try later12:08
stubThe oops will be 'terminated by administrator' or similar12:08
spivan7: IIRC that's generally caused by broken proxies12:08
spivan7: especially dodgy intercepting proxies.  If vila is around on #bzr he might be able to help debug it (assuming it isn't transient)12:09
bigjoolsstub: can you see if there's an oops number available please?12:09
stubbigjools: There is no oops at this end.12:09
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an7spiv, I know there is a dodgy transparent proxy where i work - maybe that is causing it12:10
stubbigjools: I don't even know what script was at the other end - just that it was connected as the lucille user :)12:10
bigjoolsstub: bleh. I can't do a lot without an oops :(12:10
bigjoolsstub: it's the publisher12:10
stubbigjools: Yup. But now when you see the oops, you will know the trigger.12:11
awilkinsan7: That could be it.. the typical dodgy proxy error is to do with ranges and multipart separators12:11
spivan7: ah, yep, in that case I'd say that's very likely to be the cause.12:11
stubbigjools: We can increase that timeout if necessary, but it is better to turn the long running transaction into shorter transactions.12:11
awilkinsan7: I wouldn't try using bzr+ssh right now though, I think the server is too popular :-)12:11
stubbigjools: lucille gets killed occasionally and nobody really notices - just that this time I saw a sequence of them so letting you know in case something is stuck.12:12
bigjoolsstub: yes, but if it normally runs ok then we have another problem lurking12:12
bigjoolsok cheers12:12
awilkinsJust a thought - what about a tarball of the launchpad folder which you could spread across more redundant hosting as a "starter for 10" ?12:12
awilkinsYou could even ship it with the trees removed and get a script to check them out12:13
lifelessawilkins: no need; we're serving over http anyway12:13
lifelessawilkins: we can do multiple backend stuff there; the problem was /not/ pure load12:14
awilkinslifeless: Fairy snuff12:14
lifelesswhat happened is that a cache with a bad failure mode (and heck, you can get the source and read it :P) failed12:14
lifelessand once failed it won't recover.12:14
lifelesswe've bandaided it right now.12:14
awilkinsI'm excited, been waiting for this for a year :-)12:15
lifeless:)12:15
lifelessspiv: we bounced apache12:24
lifelessspiv: its entirely possible it provoked a bunch of oddness12:24
VK7HSEHmm... rocketfuel-setup has bombed out... so I attempted to re run... now it's nagging me that it has "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. ERROR: Unable to install apache config appropriately" :(12:37
VK7HSEso I didn't get it built! so is this a case of delete the created lp-branches and re run ?12:39
VK7HSEyep that's done the trick!12:41
bigjoolsVK7HSE: can you report a bug about that please, we should fix it.12:44
VK7HSEbigjools: sorry for such a NOOB question, but against what? as in the place to do so, as I don't want to file in the wrong place...12:46
bigjoolsVK7HSE: file a bug on the launchpad project, thanks!12:46
VK7HSE;)  will do12:46
\shguys...should I really add "sabdfl" as username to my .ssh/config as rf-setup tells me to do ?12:59
bigjools\sh it's just for access to the local instance13:00
bigjoolsthe sample data doesn't know about too many people13:01
\shbigjools: k :)13:03
* wgrant wanders in.13:03
wgrantSo you did it on schedule after all. Very nice.13:04
bigjoolsdid you ever doubt us? :)13:04
VK7HSEhere's Bug #402187  for review...13:04
ubot3Malone bug 402187 in launchpad "rocketfuel-setup can't resume if fails to complete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40218713:04
bigjoolsVK7HSE: do you still have the screen scrollback from when it failed?13:05
bigjoolsit would be useful to see exactly where it failed13:05
VK7HSEnahh sorry out of the buffer...   I wanted all that to post into the bug...  but silly me re ran the script before thinking...13:06
bigjoolsVK7HSE: can you remember if it had finished pulling the main trunk?13:06
VK7HSEbut it is whilst creating, Fetching revisions:Inserting stream13:07
VK7HSENo I think this is where it bombed out I think my ISP had a hiccup that resulted in the fail connection...13:07
bigjoolsyeah that's unfortunate13:07
bigjoolsas lifeless said somewhere earlier, bzr and other DVCSes don't restart half-fetched branches :(13:08
VK7HSEbut so far by deleting the lp-branches directory all seem to be going fine... although the through put is woeful!  5-75 kbs13:09
bigjoolsouch13:09
VK7HSEso it will take a while to grab it all!  but hey it will be woth==rth the wait!13:10
VK7HSEGahh try, worth!13:10
awilkinsThe fix would be to make the initial branch an empty one and to pull it13:12
awilkinsOr to just make the script delete the existing branch if it found it, because the revisions are already present, the overhead of remaking the branch would be minimal13:13
* wgrant whines about it not running on Karmic.13:13
wgrantDoes it still need Python 2.4?13:13
bigjoolsyes :(13:13
* wgrant schroots.13:14
bigjoolsbut the good news is that we're working on that, or more to the point, barry is :)13:14
awilkinsAlas, can't post a merge branch without having pulled it first ;-|13:14
\shwgrant: what? LP is not working on karmic?13:14
barrywell, i wish!  actually flacoste_lunch and gary are working on that.  i'm just trying to noodge them along :)13:14
wgrant\sh: It needs Ancient Python.13:15
wgrantAnd the PPA isn't set up for Karmic.13:15
bigjoolsbarry: ah!  I thought you were involved since your previous work on it13:15
barrywe're not far from python 2.5 or 2.6 though (hopefully the latter)13:15
awilkinsI knew there was no reason to be bleeding edge :-)13:15
barrybigjools: i have several abandoned branches :)13:16
bigjoolswe should write this up on the wiki ...13:16
intellectronicais anybody dealing with the tree breakage? this is not a very nice time to be in testfix mode13:16
intellectronicalooks like many codehosting tests are failing13:16
bigjoolsintellectronica: I didn't even know we were in testfix, was there an lpbot email?13:16
intellectronicabigjools: come to think about it, no, i haven't seen an email from the bot. but there's definitely failures. see  the waterfall page13:17
barrybigjools: you mean like a faq entry on the dev wiki? <wink>13:18
bigjoolsbarry: yes! and in the Getting page13:19
gmbWow. Looks like just about every codehosting test ever has blow up...13:19
gmbOh, no, just the AcceptanceTests.13:20
bigjoolsbarry: ah you added it!13:20
barrybigjools: yep! you're editing the Getting page?13:21
bigjoolsbarry: yep.13:21
* bigjools high-fives barry13:21
* barry cancels his edit13:21
barry:)13:21
bigjoolslol13:21
barrybigjools: i was going to add a prerequisites section above "getting it"13:22
bigjoolsbarry: that's a good idea13:22
Mezhey guys, where can I just get the source code ? rather than an install.13:27
VK7HSEI wonder how many people are attempting to get the new source ???  average now is 2kbs :(  (looks like it will be a late/early morning!)13:28
wgrantMez: bzr get lp:launchpad, I suppose.13:28
gmbMez: see https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting13:30
* bigjools is shocked that wgrant hasn't downloaded it already13:30
Mezgmb: AFAICS, that only tells you howto do an install, not how to get a copy of the souce.13:31
bigjoolsMez: bzr [branch|checkout] lp:launchpad13:31
wgrantbigjools: My Internet connection is unhappy with these dependencies.13:32
wgrantAnd Codehosting isn't feeding me.13:32
bigjoolsyeah, I set up LP on top of a JeOS image last week13:32
bigjoolsthe dependencies are a bigger download than LP itself13:33
wgrantI decided I'd stop apt from installing Recommends.13:33
gmbMez: In which case, you can just branch lp:launchpad, as wgrant suggested.13:33
wgrantThat cut the initial dependency installation from >300MB to 80MB.13:33
bigjoolswgrant: remind me how to do that ....13:33
wgrantbigjools: Drop 'APT::Install-Recommends "false";13:34
wgrant' in /etc/apt.conf.d/something13:34
bigjoolswgrant: you use karmic right?13:35
wgrantbigjools: Yes.13:35
wgrantbigjools: But I'm currently installing in a Jaunty chroot.13:35
bacgood morning everyone13:36
wgrantAs your PPA doesn't like Karmic much.13:36
Mezgmb: yes. I'd already got my answer from wgrant :D13:36
bigjoolsmy jaunty installation doesn't have that apt config13:36
bigjoolsyeah, karmic isn't so supported yet13:36
wgrantbigjools: Sorry, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/something13:36
bigjoolswgrant: yeah I grepped that dir and there's no file with that apt config directive13:37
Mezbigjools: I think he means to add it to the file :D13:38
wgrantbigjools: Oh, by 'drop in' I mean put in, drop drop from.13:39
wgrantSorry.13:39
wgrantGah.13:39
wgrants/drop drop/not drop/13:39
* Mez hugs wgrant 13:39
wgrantCurrently downloading Launchpad at 0KB/s13:40
bigjoolsah13:40
bigjoolsthanks wgrant13:41
bigjoolswgrant: do you know if there's a way of retroactively removing stuff only installed by Recommends ?13:41
wgrantbigjools: A good question. I've wondered that myself, but never enough to actually go looking hard.13:42
wgrantIt should be possible, as aptitude and apt-get know what was installed explicitly.13:42
wgrantAnd they can work out what isn't used any more.13:42
bigjoolsI quite like the idea of shrinking my VM images13:42
awilkinsbigjools: One of the best ways I found of shrinking VM disks is to zero the empty space and repack the disk13:43
awilkinsbigjools: That works well for VirtualBox, anyway13:43
wgrantI hate to think how slow this will be once it makes /.13:43
bigjoolsno kidding13:44
awilkinsIt's encouraging in a way ; it says that many many people are keen to put up their own Launchpad instances13:44
awilkins(myself included)13:45
bigjoolsawilkins: I will try that, hopefully it will work with images build by vmbuilder13:45
wgrantOr is this obscene slowness because of that fix to make lp:launchpad resolve only to HTTP?13:45
bigjoolsthat should speed it up13:45
=== flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste
al-maisanhello flacoste, I need an rc for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/apapi-fix/+merge/908914:05
deryckflacoste, I also have a branch I need rc for, when you have time.14:07
flacosteal-maisan: looking14:09
al-maisanflacoste: thanks!14:10
VK7HSE"This will take a while -- maybe a few hours to get everything, depending on your Net connection."    Not wrong !!! 3kbs average !!! :P14:11
* wgrant just broke the 100KB/s barrier for a second or two.14:14
flacostedoes anybody knows what is the issue with the devel tests failure?14:19
gmbflacoste: All I know is it was codehosting tests. I'm just pulling devel now to see what's going on...14:21
bacflacoste: i'm on the blame list but it doesn't appear related to my change.  i'm looking into it too.14:22
flacostebac: i'm probably also on the blame list14:23
gmbbac: There was a buildbot mail? I didn't see it...14:23
intellectronicai also didn't get a mail from the bot14:24
VK7HSEwgrant: maybe if we cross streams it might come down quicker!!! :P14:25
salgadogmb, intellectronica, maybe it was sent to launchpad-dev@.  I didn't get that either and just noticed I'm not subscribed to that list14:26
gmbsalgado: I am, though... I think.14:27
* gmb checks the lp-dev archive14:27
gmbYep, I'm subscribed...14:27
intellectronicano, i'm subscribed to that14:27
gmbsalgado: Nope. Didn't go there.14:27
gmbOh, wait14:28
gmbbac and flacoste will get it because they're on the blame list14:28
flacostegmb: jml sent an email saying that he got it fixed14:28
flacostei don't understand why the list wasn't notified though14:28
gmbflacoste: "Bazaar upgrade branch being bounced, test failure in devel" or something else I haven't seen yet?14:28
intellectronicagmb: oh, of course14:29
flacostegmb: that one14:29
gmbAh, right.14:29
intellectronicaflacoste: maybe it's moderated because gary isn't subscribed?14:29
flacosteintellectronica: to the launchpad-dev list? possibly14:29
flacosteintellectronica: is there an automatic forward?14:29
* gmb wonders why buildbot doesn't have its own email address, like PQM does...14:29
flacosteotherwise, it should still be sent at the old list14:30
bacgmb: interesting, the buildbot failure message only went to me, flacoste, and mwhudson14:30
intellectronicaflacoste: i don't think so14:30
wgrantSlashdotted a couple of minutes ago.14:30
marsgood morning!14:30
intellectronicabut maybe it was changed in the bot14:30
intellectronicawgrant: oh oh14:31
marswgrant, !14:31
bacgmb: looking back to other failure messages it looks like the list gets one message and the blamers another14:31
flacosteintellectronica: i don't think so14:31
* wgrant is barely half-way through the branch :(14:31
intellectronicamaybe we should create a torrent of trunk14:31
sinzuibarry, bac, Edwin, salgado: stand up in 2 minutes14:32
marsintellectronica, interesting idea, whose key would sign it?14:32
marsany losas around?14:33
intellectronicamars: why do you need to sign it again? the revisions are already signed by pqm14:33
flacostemars: losas still hang on the internal channel it seems14:33
=== thekorn_ is now known as thekorn
marsintellectronica, just a knee-jerk reaction to distributing a tarball over bittorrent14:33
flacostei don't think there is a bzr torrent transport yet14:34
intellectronicaflacoste: no, i just meant a torrent of a tarball of devel14:35
wgrantI imagine that would be a whole lot faster and easier.14:35
wgrantJust need to publish instructions on seeding the shared repo with it...14:35
awilkins+1 for a torrent of a tarball14:36
intellectronicawhat's a good tracker for something like that?14:38
gmbIt's a cool idea... is there any reason it'd be infeasible?14:41
barrysinzui: cry14:41
marsintellectronica, if we put the tarball on our own DC servers, we can all grab a copy directly at max speed and start seeding it - get say 6 seeds, instead of just say yourself :)14:42
wgrantWoah. Speed.14:43
marswgrant, good speed, or bad speed?14:43
wgrantLike, 200KB/s. 100x better than normal.14:43
marsthat would be kfogels' doing :)14:43
wgrantBroken again :(14:44
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs:bug  401974                        Create a milestone link icon looks broken14:45
ubot3Malone bug 401974 in launchpad-registry "Create a milestone link icon looks broken" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40197414:46
marswgrant, what broke?14:50
wgrantmars: Speed dropped back to single digits.14:50
wgrantIt's now fluctuating every couple of minutes between fast and slow.14:50
marsok14:50
wgrantWhich is better than the first hour, where it was constantly slow.14:51
marsreally, interesting14:51
marsintellectronica, ^ guess that is why a tarball of trunk sounds like a good idea?14:51
intellectronicamars: yup. and that's likely to increase as more people catch the news on /.14:52
flacosteok, testfix is being processed by PQM14:52
intellectronicayay14:53
flacostedb-devel is green14:53
hazmattrying to checkout rocketfuel setup .. gives bzr error invalid http response.. expected a boundary.. on a pack file14:53
flacosteso we should be all reset very soon14:53
wgrantI see that buildbot is still private.14:53
marshazmat, ok, abentley, ping can diagnose that?14:54
marsabentley, <hazmat> trying to checkout rocketfuel setup .. gives bzr error invalid http response.. expected a boundary.. on a pack file14:54
wgrantAh, good, I see you already have people on /. accusing you of only doing this because of Chrome OS.14:54
gmbintellectronica, mars: If we can find a tracker then all we need to do is create a fresh branch of devel outside our repo, share that and write some instructions about seeding a fresh repo, right?14:54
al-maisanhazmat: what's your bzr version BTW?14:54
hazmat1.17 just upgraded14:54
gmbs/share that/tar and share that/14:54
abentleyhazmat: This is usually caused by misbehaving proxy servers.14:55
intellectronicagmb: yes, i'm doing that. any ideas for a preferred tracker? something decent and legit, preferably14:55
gmbintellectronica: No, I can't think of a legitimate one :)14:55
hazmatabentley, quite possible.. i'm on a gov site.. trying from an external machine now..14:55
marsintellectronica, ask the ubuntu guys for a tracker14:57
marsintellectronica, they must have something for the release images14:57
intellectronicamars: good point!14:58
greg-g\m/14:59
mars:)14:59
Ursinha:)14:59
greg-gCongrats to the now full-time Open Source devs :)14:59
* al-maisan bows :)15:00
al-maisangreg-g: thank you15:00
Mezlmao @ but #39359615:01
Mezbug *(15:01
* Mez just wishes that he had working virtualisation on Karmic :D15:01
greg-gal-maisan: thank you all for your hard work on LP over the years15:01
wgrantMez: No KVM?15:01
al-maisan:)15:01
Mezwgrant: I dont wanna put KVM on a desktop box.15:02
Mez(mainly cause I'm too lazy to use it!)15:02
* Mez tries VMWare15:02
wgrantMez: Strange...15:02
wgrantKVM is surely less of an effort/intrusion than VMWare.15:02
wgrantIt's not like Xen.15:02
Mezwgrant: my experience has been that KVM has been a bit b0rked.15:02
Mez(aka it decided that it wanted to set my system clock running at 1000 times faster than it should have.15:03
MezAny time I tried to login, it timed out.15:03
wgrantHuh15:03
wgrantWFM15:03
Mezkarmic 64bit ?15:03
wgrantYes.15:03
bigjoolsMez: AMD?15:04
MezFATAL: Error inserting kvm_amd (/lib/modules/2.6.31-3-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-amd.ko): Operation not supported15:04
wgrantAh.15:04
wgrantIntel here.15:04
bigjoolsI have a solution for that, one moment15:04
MezUnable to complete install: 'Couldn't create storage volume 'Launchpad.img': 'cannot create path '/var/lib/libvirt/images/Launchpad.img': Permission denied''15:06
* gmb hand-cranks an ec2 instance15:06
gmbDamn this thing is slow.15:06
wgrantMez: I'm sure you can fix that one.15:06
wgrantgmb: Better than production Codehosting.15:07
Mezhmm, seems I don't need kvm-amd15:08
gmbwgrant: Codehosting is still up, which given the kicking it's taking is quite impressive :)15:08
marswgrant, we're talking with our sysadmins now - hope to have an alternative download soon15:08
wgrantgmb: Indeed.15:09
wgrantmars: Great.15:09
wgrantThough I've so far downloaded 170MB of the supposedly 150MB branch.15:09
Mezwgrant: awesomeness :D15:09
Mezwgrant: do a lightweight checkout15:09
marswgrant, is that the sourcecode size?  And does it also have to grab the history?15:09
bigjoolsMez: options kvm_amd npt=015:10
wgrantmars: It of course has to grab the history, but /Getting says the branch is around 150MB. I presume the bzr HTTP transport is just a little inefficient.15:10
gmbwgrant: It's ~150MB on disk when all's said and done. bzr also includes all the negotiation. Also, there's some inefficiency there at the moment for some reason.15:13
wgrantgmb: Right.15:13
gmbwgrant: It's bug 402114, FTR15:14
ubot3Malone bug 402114 in bzr "too many http requests with 2a fetches" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40211415:14
bacgmb:  you were discussing the missing buildbot failure messages.  was there any resolution?  i see they aren't going to the old or new list.15:14
wgrantgmb: Thanks.15:14
gmbbac: I don't remember there being any. flacoste might know15:15
flacostegmb, bac: emails are still sent to launchpad@lists.canonical.com15:16
gmbflacoste: Ah... So why didn't it turn up?15:16
bacflacoste: but they went missing last night?15:16
flacostebac, gmb: i don't know yet15:17
* gmb feels better about not knowing15:17
marsflacoste, intellectronica, is rf-setup safe to run when you already have the lp-branches and lp-source-deps directory?15:18
marsas in, it won'15:18
mars't try and fetch them again?15:18
flacostemars: it might do a pull15:19
flacostebut that should be fine since everything will be there15:19
marsflacoste, cool15:19
salgadowgrant, 150MB is the Launchpad repo.  lp-sourcedeps has an extra half gig of stuff that comes from lp.net, I think15:19
allenapgmb: Have you spoken to mars or flacoste about bug 402160?15:19
ubot3Malone bug 402160 in malone "Collapsible sections don't expand in IE8" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40216015:19
flacostenope15:20
gmballenap: Not yet.15:20
abentleyMez: It is not a good idea to do a lightweight checkout if you don't have low-latency access to the branch (i.e. it's on your LAN or hard disk).15:20
gmballenap: Go for it if you want to :)15:20
* gmb is tied up with a bug import atm.15:20
allenapflacoste, mars: All collapsible areas in LP are broken in edge for IE[678]. The cause seems to be in setStyle (in YUI), where it tried to assign undefined to a style object.15:21
allenapflacoste, mars: I have a quick hackish fix for which there is a diff in the bug report.15:21
allenapflacoste, mars: It's a diff against YUI, so I thought I'd check in with you in case you had some better ideas.15:22
marsallenap, I looked at your fix - have you traced the stack to see what is setting the style to undefined, and change it to ''?15:22
marsallenap, it is either setStyle(undefined) or setStyle(null) that is doing it15:22
allenapmars: Can I trace the stack in IE? My blood pressure is already at about 120 bar.15:23
marsbarry, ^ didn't you encounter something similar in IE?15:23
barrymars: i am a windows-free shop15:23
* barry doesn't have ie15:23
marsallenap, does the suite still pass with your fix?15:23
allenapmars: I haven't actually run it ;)15:23
barrymars: ah, it helps if i read more scrollback15:23
marsallenap, as a contingency, I'm +1 on patching YUI, will need flacoste's OK for landing it15:24
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: can I get an RC for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-401748-ie8-new-project/+merge/9083    BTW, there is also a lazr-js branch for this bug which will need an RC after it is reviewed.15:24
barryallenap: yes, there is an issue with this.  i will try to remember it15:24
marsallenap, put an XXX in there :)15:24
jelmerhttps://dev.launchpad.net/Testing seems incomplete, it only mentions running the testsuite on ec2. is there a way to run it locally?15:24
marsa big one15:24
marsmake check?15:25
allenapmars: :) Yeah, I have done. I think gmb was going to file a bug against YUI, but for now I've XXXed it to the bug above.15:25
marsbeen months since I ran that :)15:25
allenapmars: You mean in the LP tree? I don't think that'll even touch this code though.15:25
marsallenap, you can patch the YUI in the tree, then run windmill.  your fix should be in there.  You can verify by looking in Firebug15:26
marsto see the JS files pulled in15:26
marsallenap, we bundle our own copy of YUI instead of pulling it from the Y! servers15:26
al-maisanjelmer: yes, the LP test suite can be run on your local system as well; "make check" will do it15:29
allenapmars: I've patched YUI in a lazr-js branch, so that's okay I think. I'll go and run Windmill. Is there a YUI test suite I can easily run too?15:29
marsallenap, no, there isn't a suite for PR215:29
wgrantal-maisan: Won't that take many many hours?15:30
allenapwgrant: Yes :)15:30
allenapmars: Okay.15:30
wgrantSomebody might want to document this.15:30
barryleonardr: is it true that with lazr.restful POSTs must be to named operations?15:30
al-maisanwgrant: it depends on your machine .. but, yes, it will take 2-3 hours15:30
marsallenap, ok15:30
al-maisanwgrant: there are plans afoot to parallelize it and/or make it run faster in other ways..15:31
leonardrbarry: yes, that's the only thing we use POST for15:31
leonardrthe other thing it makes sense to use POST for is constructors, but i haven't implemented that yet15:31
barryleonardr: gotcha.  the latter was what i'm looking for, but for now i'm just using a named op of 'new'15:31
leonardrbarry: that's a good name for now15:32
marshi stub!15:32
barryleonardr: cool.  glad it's on the radar15:32
barryleonardr: also for factory functions, we always return u'' in the body, right?  so if i wanted to dump the json that comes back from a request, i have to check that len() != 015:33
al-maisanwgrant: https://dev.launchpad.net/FasterTests15:33
radixI wonder how hard it would be to replace the root-owned-and-running apache with a user-run twisted.web server for development purposes.15:33
radixapache is used for some vhosting and path-mangling, I take it? is there anything more tricky than that?15:34
leonardrbarry: well, technically if it's sending you an empty string the response type shouldn't be application/json, but we probably do that15:34
leonardrso, yeah15:34
awilkinsDarn, they slashdotted it15:34
radixawilkins: kfogel slashdotted it ;-)15:34
barryleonardr: ah, good point.  i'll double check the type15:35
leonardrbut there's a slight possibility that we send you the quoted empty string, ""15:35
barryleonardr: i think not, but i'll double check.  thanks15:35
marsradix, I don't believe there is much more that that, since on .dev requests are processed by the Zope server after routing15:35
al-maisanawilkins: hey, it's all part of the celebration ;)15:35
marsradix, cool idea though15:35
marsawilkins, we should have a copy of the source tree up on some faster servers in a few minutes.15:36
radixmars: cool.15:36
awilkinsmars: Including the repo or just the sources?15:36
marsdirect HTTP download, as fast as an ubuntu release15:36
marsherb, ^ ?15:37
herbincluding the repo15:37
awilkinsYou don't even need the sources to be in it if it has the repo.. you can just remove the tree and make downloaders check it out again15:37
Davieybranching peaking at 1137KB/s \o/15:38
allenapmars: The unittests in lazr-js all fail the same in my branch as in toolchain :) As in, not all unittests pass, which is unfortunate, but at least my change has not introduced any new ones.15:39
marsallenap, in IE? or Firefox?15:40
marsI should hope they pass in firefox :)15:40
allenapmars: In FF.15:40
marsah15:40
marsallenap, not fun, but at least it is not a regression there15:40
marsallenap, tried windmill yet?15:41
allenapmars: Yep, and the vast majority do pass.15:41
marsok, that is good15:41
marsflacoste, ^ should we RC and push allenap's fix?15:41
allenapmars: No Windmill yet. I'm just bringing a couple more generators online before I can risk that.15:42
marsflacoste, big day, some people would probably enjoy having it15:42
marsallenap, :)15:42
allenapmars, flacoste: We need something, because otherwise IE users will be broken entirely tomorrow!15:42
marsneed to fix up "make jscheck"15:42
barryallenap, mars iirc the proper invocation is foo.setStyle('height', null)15:43
flacosteallenap, mars: merge proposal, please?15:43
flacosteradix: apache is used for mod_rewrite and mod_ssl also15:44
flacosteradix: two nice improvements would be to modify our setup so that the dev environment starts a local apache and postrgesl cluster15:44
allenapflacoste: Coming up.15:45
abentleyflacoste: basically, it would be good if multiple instances could run on the same machine, i.e. two test runs.15:45
abentleyflacoste: or a test run and launchpad.dev15:45
flacosteEdwinGrubbs: what is this alert thing?15:46
flacosteEdwinGrubbs: we should use Y.log, or something like that15:46
flacostenot an alert15:46
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: ok15:46
flacosteEdwinGrubbs: and can't you use a waits.forElement() or something like that instead of sleep?15:47
flacosteabentley: agreed15:48
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: yes, I can do that.15:49
gmballenap, mars The other option is that we make Y.lp.activate_collapsibles() defer to the old activateCollapsibles() function for IE users.15:53
gmbflacoste: ^^15:53
radixflacoste: hm, but is the mod_ssl really necessary for local development?15:53
gmbBut I think a fix to lazr-js is preferable.15:54
allenapgmb: Or not run at all.15:54
herbget your launchpad source code: http://people.canonical.com/~herb/15:54
gmballenap: Why not degrade only a little bit first :)15:54
flacosteradix: well, it's good for regression testing15:54
marsawilkins, wgrant, sourcecode is available at http://people.canonical.com/~herb/15:54
wgrantherb: That's with the tree, not just .bzr? (it looks far too big)15:54
awilkinsMany thnks15:54
flacosteradix: spotting insecure warning and such other things15:54
radixah15:54
allenapgmb: Then we have two lots of code to kinda maintain.15:54
wgrantI'm already 273MB through, so I'll see how it goes..15:55
gmbTrue15:55
herbwgrant: with the tree, yes15:55
=== herb changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: Launchpad Development Channel | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Please use #launchpad for support. | https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev | Get it: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | http://people.canonical.com/~herb/ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/
marsI guess we should update /Getting with instructions on the alternative sourcecode download, and how to use it?15:56
barryleonardr: ping15:58
marsherb, 625K/s - that's nice :)15:59
herbmars: heh15:59
marsETA 6 minutes at that speed15:59
leonardrbarry, hi16:00
barryleonardr: hi.  are we trying to keep all the webservice/api doctests in lib/canonical/launchpad/pagetests/webservice/ ?16:00
barryleonardr: i'm working on an api to expose message moderation and am wondering where to put the tests16:01
leonardrbarry: yes, tests of the launchpad web service in particular go into that directory16:01
barryleonardr: cool thanks.  btw, you know i'm taking over for rockstar on thursday?16:02
leonardrbarry: yes16:02
barrycool16:02
marsoh wow, herb, download speed is fluctuating16:04
marsbursty16:04
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: are you removing the bug count feature from the +series page? I can do it if you are not16:05
herbmars: that's just me putting kinks in the hose at random times. :)16:05
mars9m 38s for the alternative source download16:09
allenapflacoste, mars: It seems that EdwinGrubbs found the root cause of that IE bug, and has fixed it in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~allenap/lazr-js/set-style-fix-for-ie-bug-402160/+merge/909516:09
wgrantHow big is lp-source-dependencies?16:09
bigjoolswgrant: someone said a few hundred meg16:09
wgrant(it actually downloads at a reasonably fairly constant speed)16:09
allenapEdwinGrubbs: I was chasing that same bug, but didn't find the cause, so I'm really glad you did :)16:09
awilkinsBlimey, loom is a required plugin?16:12
sinzuiawilkins: I never use loom16:12
awilkinsNo.. I meant there's a link for it in the launchpad "bzrplugins" folder16:12
bigjoolsit's optional16:13
sinzuiawilkins: yes, but you do not need to use it. I do not16:13
awilkinsHeh, why's it not in the optionalbzrplugins/ folder like git then :-)16:13
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sinzuisalgado: ready for our call?16:18
salgadosinzui, yes16:18
beunoflacoste, hi. I wants an r-c: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~beuno/launchpad/open-the-world/+merge/909616:19
EdwinGrubbssinzui: that would be great, since I'm still making changes to land my rc fixes. Do you want me to assign that bug and the sprite bug to you?16:19
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: I think you should keep the sprite since you definitely can get an RC to land.16:19
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: If my branch has issues, it can still be landed in the reroll16:20
herbmars: any luck on updating /Getting to reflect the static files on people.c.c?16:25
marsherb, haven't yet16:26
deryckflacoste, ping.16:27
pkernpkern@asterix:~/launchpad/lp-branches/devel$ make schema16:30
pkernMissing ./download-cache.16:30
pkernDevelopers: please run utilities/link-external-sourcecode.16:30
pkernThat's somehow not helpful.16:30
pkernI did strange things I have to admit in order to avoid a re-checkout, but still...16:30
salgadosinzui, all translations-related templates have been moved out of lp.registry16:30
sinzui\o/16:31
pkernHm, well, the real error is:16:31
pkernlink-external-sourcecode: error: Parent branch not specified, and could not be discovered.16:31
bigjoolspkern: try "make" on its own16:31
sinzuisalgado: blueprints can move anytime next cycle16:31
pkernSo I confused it too much.16:31
bigjoolspkern: ah, you need utilities/link-external-sourcecode16:31
pkernbigjools: What "parent" do I need to pass to that script?16:32
bigjoolsis that not in the destructions?16:32
bigjoolspkern: a path to lp-sourcedeps16:32
bigjoolspkern: I take it you didn't run rf-setup to completion? :)16:32
bacsalgado: i just QAd bug 397148.  first try timed-out but the next succeeded.  marked it OK/OK16:32
ubot3Malone bug 397148 in launchpad-registry "+adminpeoplemerge should be able to merge people without email addresses" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39714816:33
pkernbigjools: Indeed it didn't like me because it told me that my checkout and devel diverged and it needs merge.16:33
salgadobac, thanks! do you have the OOPS for the time out?16:33
bacsalgado: sorry, no16:33
pkernbigjools: I'll try again.16:33
bigjoolspkern: in your devel directory, you can try "bzr pull --overwrite"16:34
pkernbigjools: Sounds funny.16:34
pkernbigjools: Cool.16:35
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: can I get an rc for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/lazr-js/lazrjs-bug-401748-ie8-new-project/+merge/908116:39
flacosteallenap: so EdwinGrubbs above fix is obsoleting what you wanted in?16:39
flacostehi deryck16:40
flacostebeuno, EdwinGrubbs: done16:42
beunothanks16:42
awilkinsDamn, I love my new 10Mbit/s connection16:42
deryckflacoste, hi, I'd like to get rc on: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~deryck/launchpad/correctly-list-dupe-subscription-401779/+merge/908416:43
deryckflacoste, fixes a bug discovered during QA yesterday.16:43
flacostederyck: done16:47
deryckflacoste, awesome, thanks!16:47
marsherb, please check https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting, "Alternative Sourcecode Download"16:51
herbmars: looks good to me.16:51
abentleyrockstar: chat?16:53
awilkinsI'm trying to do the whole rocketfuel-setup stage but primed with the revision data by branching herb's archive into lp-branches ; how long should that take? It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop at "Fetching revisions:Get stream source"16:56
kripken__Is there a command to get just the last revision of launchpad? Instead of doing a bzr branch lp:launchpad which gets the massive history?16:56
awilkinsAh, now it's saying "Insering missing keys"16:56
awilkinsDone16:56
marskripken__, you can either download the source from http://people.canonical.com/~herb/, or do bzr checkout lp:launchpad16:56
awilkinskripken__: You could get the source tarball from the branch page, or get a stacked branch16:56
MarkusT"make schema" fails with: The found YUI root isn't valid: /home/[...]/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/lib/canonical/launchpad/icing/yui/3.0.0pr2/build [...] Traceback (most recent call last):16:57
awilkinsOr get herbs archive which has a full history16:57
kripken__thanks guys16:57
MarkusT  File "buildmailman.py", line 15, in ?16:57
MarkusT    from canonical.config import config16:57
MarkusT  File "/home/[...]/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/lib/canonical/config/__init__.py", line 19, in ?16:57
MarkusT    import ZConfig16:57
MarkusTImportError: No module named ZConfig16:57
MarkusTmake: *** [compile] Error 116:57
MarkusTAny idea?16:57
marsMarkusT, rocketfuel-setup ran?16:58
MarkusTJup, no problems there16:58
joeynoodles775: cloak set16:59
bigjoolsMarkusT: what does "make build" do?16:59
joeynoodles775: you may have to refresh with nickserv to see it16:59
al-maisanMarkusT: I believe "ImportError: No module named ZConfig" is due to you not having run utilities/link-external-sourcecode16:59
bigjoolsyeah that's more likely17:00
marshmm17:00
noodles775joey: thanks!17:00
MarkusTI'm now running setup again and will try to use your advise... just a moment....17:00
marsbigjools, al-maisan, that isn't in the /Getting instructions17:00
marsshould it be?17:00
joeynoodles775: you can /msg christel and thank her :-)  I just own the cloak rights. :-)17:00
bigjoolsmars: potentially, but you only need it if you shortcut the instructions in the first place17:01
rockstarabentley, yeah.17:01
marsbigjools, depends, I assume MarkusT was following the instructions17:01
MarkusTmars: Yes, i did :-)17:02
al-maisanmars: you typically run utilities/link-external-sourcecode after branching a development branch from (db-)devel ..17:02
al-maisani.e. later in the process17:02
bigjoolswell17:02
bigjoolsyou need it in trunk as well, so it can be built17:03
marsMarkusT, was that error in a branch you just created, or devel/?17:03
al-maisanbigjools: I though rf-setup will take care of running utilities/link-external-sourcecode in the trunk ..17:03
bigjoolsyes it does17:03
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MarkusTOk, running Rocketfuel-setup again doesn't solve the problem. "Usage: link-external-sourcecode [options] [parent]", what do I need for parent or options? I'm not branching, just trying to get a first working system. Might it be useful to completely delete all files and start over again?17:06
marsMarkusT, first, check the sourcecode/ directory in trunk/.  Do you see a collection of links there?17:07
awilkinsHmm, I'm getting all these "inconsistent details in skipped record" errors from bzr while it's branching source-deps17:07
marsabentley, ^ ?17:07
marsflacoste, fixed the text on /Getting - the source-deps aren't in the tarball, just the history17:08
abentleymars: This is because launchpad's trunk wasn't reconciled.  I was in the process of reconciling it, when kfogel's announcement came.17:09
marsflacoste, ^17:09
marsabentley, is that a problem?17:10
MarkusTmars: Where's trunk supposed to be?17:10
wgrantawilkins: They seem to be coming from bzr-svn and bzr-git.17:10
marsMarkusT, ~/launchpad/lp-branches/devel17:10
wgrantAnd those two are taking absolutely ages longer than any of the others.17:10
MarkusTmars: Only have a Makefile there17:10
marsMarkusT, ok, how about in ~/launchpad/lp-sourcedeps ?17:11
abentleymars: It's not a serious problem, but it does mean that people will see errors like that, and when they run bzr check.17:11
MarkusTsourcecode is empty, mars. ls17:11
MarkusTdownload-cacheeggs  sourcecode17:11
awilkinsWhat I did ; mkdir ~/launchpad ; cd  ~/launchpad ; bzr init-repo --2a lp-branches ; bzr branch <herbs-folder> lp-branches/devel ; rm -rf lp-branches/devel ; ./rocketfuel-setup17:12
MarkusTmars: So should I start over? Seems the easiest way .....17:13
bigjoolsMarkusT: run rocketfuel-get and see what it does17:14
wgrantHmm, I wonder if the sourcedep pulling is so slow because it's upgrading to 2a.17:14
awilkinsOops, stacktrace17:14
awilkinsWhen branching dulwich17:14
awilkinsSHA1KnitCorrupt17:15
marsabentley, ^ ?17:15
MarkusTmars: Using saved parent location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/17:15
marsawilkins, did it kill the download?17:15
awilkinsDoes 2a even use Knits?17:15
MarkusTNo revisions to pull.17:15
MarkusTTree is up to date at revision 53.17:15
MarkusTCould not find /usr/local/bin/sourcedeps.conf17:15
MarkusTUpdating sourcecode dependencies in rocketfuel:17:15
awilkinsmars: Yes, I think it did17:15
MarkusT  NOTE: Each sourcedep may take a while; please be patient.17:15
MarkusT  ALSO NOTE: You can ignore any warnings you see below about how17:16
MarkusT  'You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID ...' etc.17:16
MarkusT  See https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/401617 for why.17:16
ubot3Malone bug 401617 in bzr "'bzr branch lp:foo' says "You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID ..." in anonymous pull (dup-of: 346677)" [Undecided,New]17:16
ubot3Malone bug 346677 in bzr "confusing message about launchpad-login, even when doing readonly access to a public branch" [Medium,Confirmed]17:16
MarkusT    Sourcedeps: /home/thielmann/launchpad/lp-sourcedeps/sourcecode17:16
MarkusT    Checking /home/thielmann/launchpad/lp-sourcedeps/sourcecode/bzr-git17:16
MarkusTCouldn't find lp:~launchpad-pqm/bzr-git/devel/, skipping it. [...]17:16
abentleymars: I do not know why.17:16
MarkusTThis goes on for all dependencies....17:16
marsabentley, ok, thanks, just checking :)17:16
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awilkinsWhy are they all saying "Created new stacked branch referring to file:///home/adrian/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/."17:17
awilkinsWhat's devel got to do with the dependencies (in terms of stacking?)17:17
bigjoolsMarkusT: hmmmm it might be because of what it says - "You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID"17:18
marsbigjools, I think you can ignore those (like the message says :)17:18
bigjoolsmars: I know, but he's getting them for sourcecode checkouts17:18
MarkusTmars: I'm just starting over .... See you an a few minutes .....17:18
marsMarkusT, ok17:19
marsbigjools, that first line that MarkusT posted is odd: No revisions to pull.17:19
mars<MarkusT> Tree is up to date at revision 53.17:19
mars<MarkusT> Could not find /usr/local/bin/sourcedeps.conf17:19
bigjoolsthat's normal17:20
marsok17:20
bigjoolsno revisions tp pull means his devel is up-to-date17:20
marsbigjools, and the "Could not find /usr/local/bin/sourcedeps.conf" ?17:20
bigjoolsI get that every time17:20
marsah, ok too then17:21
bigjoolsI think it defaults to somewhere else17:21
wgrantOh.17:21
wgrantrocketfuel-get is stupid.17:21
bigjoolsthe problem is the "Couldn't find lp:~launchpad-pqm/bzr-git/devel/, skipping it. [...]"17:21
wgrantThis explains why it's so horrifyingly slow.17:21
mhall119|workI'm using Ubuntu 9.04, which has bzr 1.13, can I not clone the launchpad repo?17:21
bigjoolswgrant: patches accepted17:21
marsMarkusT, you can save yourself the download of sourcecode when starting over if you save your ~launchpad/lp-branches directory17:21
awilkinsThis part of rocketfuel-get makes no sense to me (the bit that's doing it) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223662/17:21
wgrantThe detection code for SSO/ShipIt is broken, so it tries to branch everything as if it's meant to share history with the main tree.17:21
bigjoolsYES.  I have wanted to say that for 2 years.17:21
marsMarkusT, sorry, I meant he download of the launchpad trunk17:22
wgrantSo it first branches devel to the dep's dir, then pull --overwrites the remote branch.17:22
wgrantCausing an upgrade to 2a.17:22
wgrantAnd a whole lot of copying.17:22
awilkinsAha, all three of those comments were about the same thing17:22
wgrantbigjools: Patches may come...17:22
joeybeuno: what ever happened to the front page badge idea for today's FOSS announcement?17:22
bigjoolswgrant: I am happy to be your sponsor17:22
wgrantawilkins: The easy workaround is to preemptively create empty branches for each dependency.17:23
wgrantThat will speed things up.17:23
wgrantAnd probably stop dulwich from breaking.17:23
wgrantBut let me fix rocketfuel-get properly..17:23
awilkinsIt's treating everything as optional and trying to stack them on trunk17:23
marsmhall119|work, no, you will need to upgrade to Bazaar 1.16.1 at minimum, and even better, Bazaar 1.1717:23
awilkinsI think it couldn't find sourcedeps.conf17:24
wgrantawilkins: Not quite.17:24
mhall119|workmars: any chance of that getting into the Jaunty repos?17:24
marsmhall119|work, if you are on Ubuntu, you can use the Bazaar PPA to get them: https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa17:24
wgrantawilkins: Oh, yes.17:24
marsmhall119|work, the latest Bazaar, as a backport?17:24
awilkinsIn fact, it said "can't find sourcedeps.conf on STDOUT"17:25
awilkinsI put the quote in the wrong place there17:25
marsmhall119|work, I don't know, but the latest version will be in Karmic17:25
mhall119|workmars: thanks17:25
flacosteshit17:25
flacostethere is a typo in rocketfuel-get :-(17:26
wgrantYes.17:26
wgrantNo $ before the optional.17:26
flacosteright17:26
wgrantThat change was made just today, wasn't it?17:26
flacosteyesterday17:26
joeyflacoste: cp rs=joey17:26
marsflacoste, bigjools is sponsoring wgrant's fix, I believe?17:26
marsjoey, :)17:26
wgrantmars: Requires signing of the contributors agreement and blah.17:26
marsoh17:27
wgrantI probably would have worked that out earlier if it wasn't 2:30.17:27
* wgrant shall retry rocketfuel-get, then go to bed.17:27
awilkinswgrant: Is it because $(dirname"$0") returns "."  ?17:27
joeyflacoste, et al - I'm afk for a dr's appt. Ring my mobile if you should need me.17:27
wgrantawilkins: No.17:27
wgrantIt's a nice missing $ in the 'if [ optional ]'17:28
wgrantawilkins: 'optional' is of course always true.17:28
wgrant$optional might not be.17:28
awilkinswgrant: aha17:28
flacosteherb: can you remove the launchpad tar ball from your home directory, please, we'll need to do another one17:29
herbflacoste: what do you want it to contain?17:29
LordMetroid:)17:29
flacosteherb: rocketfuel-get is broken in it17:29
herbflacoste: awesome.17:29
herbflacoste: what revision does it need?17:29
flacostea yet unlanded one17:30
flacostei'm on it17:30
herbah-ha17:30
herbok17:30
flacoste:-)17:30
pkernbzr taking ages on bzr-svn is also normal?17:31
herbflacoste: they're gone17:31
wgrantpkern: That's this bug.17:31
wgrantpkern: There's a typo in devel/utilities/rocketfuel-get17:31
pkernwgrant: thanks17:32
wgrantpkern: I just added the $, then reran lp-branches/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-get17:32
wgrantIt seems to be branching properly now.17:32
awilkinsYes, I concur17:32
wgrantSo much faster without the 2a conversion...17:33
bigjoolssweet17:33
awilkinsNo huge errors about "inconsistend details" too17:33
marsflacoste, http://paste.ubuntu.com/223675/ ?17:34
LordMetroidHm, maybe one should join in on the development of this software... I love launchpad as it now and would gladly want to make it better17:34
wgrantAnd hopefully no dulwich conversion crash.17:34
flacostemars: yes, that's what i'm submitting now17:34
awilkinsdulwich already branched OK here17:34
LordMetroidIs there any formal process to become a developer or am I just to send in patches?17:34
awilkinsLordMetroid: The process for Bazaar is presently to submit a branch and merge proposal to launchpad ; I would expect that LP itself would probably have a similar process ?17:35
marsLordMetroid, for now: https://dev.launchpad.net/PatchSubmission17:35
beunojoey, kfogel  :)17:35
awilkinsA shame all those branches are conflicting formats17:36
awilkinsThey could share a repo if they were all 2a17:37
wgrantBut there would be no benefit.17:37
pkernAnd it's nice that it doesn't tell me what' it's doing when looking at bzr-svn...17:37
samgeecongratulations on making launchpad free software, guys!17:37
marssamgee, thanks :)17:40
* awilkins does `make schema && make run`17:41
* wgrant is still two sourcedeps away.17:41
pkernYay, it actually continues now.17:42
awilkinsMy ISP might be caching the packs17:42
awilkinsThey have a transparent proxy17:42
samgeebtw, there's an error in https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting17:42
wgrantawilkins: I have 320ms latency to LP.17:43
awilkinswgrant: Ouch17:43
pkernawilkins: If you actually use http and not bzr+ssh...17:43
samgeeit says the source tree is 150Mb, while it seems to be 150 MB17:43
awilkinspkern: Didn't I see something above about reconfiguring the lp: responder to hand out http:// links for a while?17:43
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awilkinsDarn. "No module named cElementTree"17:44
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: how goes your branches?17:45
flacostejtv-afk: all branch submission should go to db-devel17:45
awilkinsNeed to add that to the list of packages that rocketfuel-setup installs for python 2.417:45
flacosteawilkins: actually, it should come from the download-cache17:45
marsflacoste, I don't have it in mine...17:46
flacostehmm17:46
flacosteright17:46
flacostei thought it was part of elementtree17:46
flacostebut probably not17:46
flacostei need to update the launchpad-developer-dependencies again :-(17:47
marsflacoste, I think so.  I'm fetching it from /usr/lib/python2.417:47
awilkinsAt least this stuff is minor teething trouble17:48
awilkinsI've spent _weeks_ trying to get the build system working on a project I'm on, and it's frickin' Maven - it's supposed to be EASY17:48
awilkins(this is a set of projects created by someone else - I'm not so slow as to have my own build system not working on me...)17:49
flacosteuploaded a new l-d-d17:50
wgrantflacoste: Just adding python-celementtree?17:50
flacostewgrant: yes17:50
awilkinsIs _pythonpath.py generated?17:50
flacostejtv-afk: stop submitting to devel!17:50
flacosteawilkins: it is17:51
awilkinsflacoste: Cool, then it'll just pick up the change... which file is it, or is it one of the branches that rocketfuel-get fetches?17:51
flacosteawilkins: it's a package in the ~launchpad PPA, give it a few minutes to be published17:52
awilkinsRighto17:52
beunoflacoste, any ideas what this means?  http://buildbot.devpad.info/builders/db_lp/builds/550/steps/bzr/logs/stdio17:54
flacostebeuno: trouble connecting to codehosting17:55
sinzuiherb: ping17:55
awilkinsflacoste: Does celementtree need an amd64 build as well17:55
beunoah, seemed to obvious  :)17:55
herbsinzui: pong17:56
flacosteawilkins: if you are on amd64, yes17:56
beunoflacoste, so how do I kick this off again?17:56
sinzuiherb: can you make me an admin on staging to test some team merge fixes?17:56
flacostebeuno: i need another fix in, so i'll handle it17:56
marsthe PPA should handle the amd64 build as well, shouldn't it?17:56
herbsinzui: I can17:56
awilkinsmars: Yes, it's just taking it's time, I think17:57
wgrantmars: Yes, but there's a large backlog.17:57
herbsinzui: done17:57
wgrantSomebody should bump the build score.17:57
wgranteg. herb17:57
beunoflacoste, danke17:57
awilkinsThe packages for launchpad-dependencies are only listing i386 builds as well17:58
bigjoolswgrant: build URL?17:58
wgrantAlthough all of those buildds are going to be occupied by their current builds for at least an hour yet, I expect.17:58
bigjoolsI can bump it17:58
flacosteawilkins: actually, it doesn't need an amd64 build17:58
flacosteit's an indep package17:58
flacosteonly deps17:58
flacosteand i'm not building python-celementtree itself17:58
flacostethat's part of universe17:58
awilkinsflacoste: Aaaah. Ok.17:59
wgrantbigjools: https://edge.launchpad.net/~launchpad/+archive/ppa/+build/112743717:59
awilkinsThere's a thing to fix in LP then :-) - misleading arch tags on package builds17:59
bigjoolswgrant: sorted17:59
bigjoolsbuild start: 1 minute17:59
pkern* It appears your search path is unconfigured.18:00
pkernHave you read <https://launchpad.canonical.com/DatabaseSetup>?18:00
pkerna) nobody told me and b) even if I would try...18:00
wgrantbigjools: It doesn't take into account currently building builds?18:00
awilkinsHeh, should be Build score : "one MEEELION points"18:00
bigjoolswgrant: yes, it does18:00
* wgrant should have checked the code.18:01
bigjools:)18:01
marspkern, looking now18:01
marspkern, on which page did you find that link?  So I can re-link it with the new material18:01
pkernmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/pkern/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/database/schema'18:02
pkernmars: There.18:02
marshmmm18:02
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marsok, first I'll copy the page18:02
pkernI wonder why that search path is needed anyway.  Storm not supporting schemas?18:03
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: have you gotten a chance to look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/lazr-js/lazrjs-bug-401748-ie8-new-project/+merge/908118:03
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EdwinGrubbssinzui: their progressing pretty well, but I'm kinda derelict on my chr duties.18:03
marspkern, https://dev.launchpad.net/DatabaseSetup18:04
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: I will free to start the CHR in 5 minutes18:04
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: I'll start with projects and continue until you are available, which may not be at all18:04
flacosteEdwinGrubbs: yes, it's approved already18:05
marspkern, but I don't guarantee that that page has an answer for you, I just brought it out into the light18:05
wgrantSo, I have my DB!18:05
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: ok, I didn't see a comment in the mp, and I wanted to make sure that you weren't confused by the two mps with the same bug number.18:05
wgrantBut I first had to create a postgres superuser for myself.18:06
wgrantAnd change the search path.18:06
pkern* If this fails you need to run as the postgresql superuser18:06
pkern* eg. sudo -u postgres make create18:06
pkernThere is no make create in there.18:06
pkernHm, well there is, but in the subdir, heh ;-)18:06
pkernmars: It had, yes, thanks.18:06
pkernIt's only adjusting the search_path it seems, I didn't touch hba.18:07
flacosteEdwinGrubbs: no, there was both a lp and a lazr-js branch18:07
=== barry` is now known as barry
* bigjools needs to run out, bb later18:07
pkernOk, you need to touch hba to allow launchpad_main to connect.18:08
wgrantThat makes sense.18:09
* gmb EODs. 18:09
* wgrant waits for his disk to catch up with postgres.18:10
mptwgrant, are you having fun?18:10
marswgrant, there is a good reason why some of us still use hefty desktop workstations instead of laptops :)18:11
* barry needs a new hefty desktop workstation :)18:11
pkernpsycopg2.OperationalError: FATAL:  database "launchpad_dev" does not exist18:11
wgrantmpt: It's a bit late, and rocketfuel-setup is buggy, but otherwise it's not bad.18:11
pkernpsycopg2.OperationalError: FATAL:  database "launchpad_dev" does not exist18:11
wgrantpkern: make schema didn't run properly?18:11
pkernHrm.18:11
wgrantMine certainly created launchpad_dev.18:11
pkernwgrant: The problem is that now this stuff is owned by postgres I think.18:12
* wgrant is still waiting for make schema to finish...18:12
pkernWell, let's try18:12
ryanpriorThanks for choosing AGPLv3. :-)18:12
pkernOh great.18:12
pkernpsycopg2.ProgrammingError: permission denied for relation pg_database18:12
pkernAnd as postgres18:12
pkern    [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/pkern/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/eggs/test-easy-install-3674.pth'18:12
pkern*sigh*18:13
marspkern, according to database setup, it just needs your db user to be a superuser18:13
marsryanprior, :)18:13
pkernmars: It uses random own users to conncet.18:13
wgrantpkern: Which are configured during make schema.18:13
pkernwgrant: So which one needs to be superuser?  \-:18:13
wgrantIt started!18:14
wgrantI haz a launchpad.dev.18:14
wgrantpkern: The one matching your username.18:14
marspkern, "Your default PostgreSQL user has the same name as your login account (if it existed already, and it was not a superuser, drop it first)"18:14
marspkern, fwiw, stub is our database guru18:14
pkernRight.18:14
flacostemars: the future is SSD drive, postgres doesn't have any trouble catching up here :-)18:14
pkern"drop it first", heh... alter role $user superuser;18:15
wgrantAre the usernames and passwords documented somewhere? I know a couple, but do I have to look through the sample data?18:15
marsflacoste, nice :)18:15
rockstarflacoste, and the future always will be SSD drives.18:15
flacostewgrant: they are in lib/canonical/launchpad/pagetests/README i think18:15
wgrantflacoste: README.txt, but yes. Thanks.18:16
wgrantIs there a root cert somewhere that I should tell Firefox to trust, or do I just whitelist the cert for each domain?18:18
flacostewgrant: you whitelist each domain18:19
flacostewgrant: i assume this means that you succeeded in running make run?18:19
wgrantflacoste: Oh yes.18:19
wgrantThe webapp all works.18:19
flacosteawesome!!!18:19
pkernWorks here too.18:19
flacosteEdwinGrubbs: branches must be landed on db-devel18:20
wgrantOnce I'd fixed rocketfuel-get, installed python-celementtree, createuser'd, added the postgres search_path and auth stuff, it all worked.18:20
EdwinGrubbscrap18:20
pkernWhat code is running on drescher for the archive? :-P18:20
cody-somervillegmb, What does this mean? "ConjoinedBugTaskEditError: This task cannot be edited directly, it should be edited through its conjoined_master"18:20
* pkern didn't need celementtree yet. o_O18:20
pkernOr maybe I just had it :-P18:20
wgrantI presume there's some docs on the internal wiki about setting up a local Soyuz system.18:21
wgrantThe Codehosting ones have been made public.18:21
* rockstar hates at DOM traversal18:21
wgrantBut not Soyuz.18:21
wgrantrockstar: jQuery makes that so much nicer.18:21
flacostewgrant: actually, not really, Soyuz is that very mysterious secret guarded jealously by bigjools18:22
flacosteand cprov18:22
flacoste:-p18:22
flacostewgrant: seriously, i think nobody runs Soyuz locally18:22
pkernbigjools: soyuz, soyuz, soyuz! how!18:22
flacostewgrant: i know they usually do their QA on a dedicated server aka dogfood18:22
wgrantflacoste: Right. But presumably they at least run things manually locally...18:23
flacostebigjools: you officially have a request to document how to test Soyuz stuff locally18:23
* wgrant hears bigjools scream.18:23
marswgrant, that is a good list of roadblocks18:24
* mars tosses it into a Tomboy note18:24
barrywgrant, pkern wait 'til we ask you to review some soyuz code!18:25
marsI think we have rf-get in process18:25
marspython-celementree is fixed?18:25
wgrantmars: The first has a branch, the second has been uploaded.18:25
marsdon't know what is up with the database setup stuff though18:25
marswgrant, the first also needs a CP18:26
wgrantIs the default batchnavigator size lower on launchpad.dev? I notice team membership lists are only 5 per page, not 50.18:27
matsubarawgrant, yes18:27
matsubarasee default_batch_size: 5 in configs/development/launchpad-lazr.conf18:28
wgrantmatsubara: Aha.18:30
EdwinGrubbssinzui: can we delay our one-on-one call till tomorrow?18:30
barryleonardr: all the pprint_*() methods in webservice.py require a json_body, but that seems tedious.  would it make sense to have a method that calls .jsonBody() automatically?18:31
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: sure18:32
leonardrbarry: well iirc there are a number of methods for using different http methods, get, post etc18:32
leonardrif you added a jsonbody you'd expand that x218:32
leonardri guess you could just have a 'get' method, or an argument to the get method, that returned the body instead of the response object18:32
barryleonardr: yeah, i see what you mean.  what does webservice.get() return normally?18:34
barryleonardr: i wonder if pprint_() could sniff its argument.  ugly, but convenient18:34
leonardrbarry, it returns an httplib2 response object, or some kind of response object anyway18:34
wgrantcody-somerville: A conjoined bugtask is the non-series task for a project which also has a task for its development series on the same bug - that dev series task is the conjoined master. While the dev focus task isn't Won't Fix, the non-series task cannot be altered.18:34
barryleonardr: i.e. not a dict, right?  looks like json_body is expected to be a dict (or maybe a duck type having a .items() method)18:36
leonardrjson_body will always be a dict in lasr_restful applications, at least for now18:36
leonardrbarry, i have a very obscure python question for you18:37
barrysure thing18:37
barryleonardr: i'm using a new irc arrangement, so i can't tell if you're pvtmsging me or not ;)18:39
awilkinsWhich bit downloads the packaged dependencies? It's not picking up the cElementTree egg yet18:40
marsawilkins, apt-get install launchpad-developer-dependencies18:40
leonardrlet me try one recipe and see if it works18:41
leonardrwow, ok18:41
leonardrbarry: nm, the thing i tried worked for now18:41
flacostemars, herb: the db-devel branch now contains the rocketfuel-get fix, we could republish another tarball using db-devel18:41
awilkinsmars: Aha, I was fooled by not seeing it in synaptic...18:41
barryleonardr: cool18:42
* wgrant needs to sleep.18:42
wgrantThanks everyone.18:42
herbflacoste: I'll take care of it as soon as I get back from lunch.18:44
herbflacoste: what revision?18:45
EdwinGrubbsflacoste: I know this seems rediculous, but can I get an RC for this, since it seems silly not to fix it. https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-401974-icon-positioning/+merge/910218:51
awilkinsStupid question ; what's the root user on the default install?18:52
EdwinGrubbsawilkins: the default install of what?18:53
awilkinsLaunchpad, as produced by getting a development set of Launchpad18:54
awilkinsThere must presumably be a "god" user in the database18:54
bacawilkins: when you run a local copy for development at http://launchpad.dev there are a number of users in the database18:55
awilkinsbac: I agree, I can see them. But to really explore the features you can't just register your own, you need an admin user, yes?18:55
baclook at lib/canonical/launchpad/pagetests  -- there is a README .txt and a REFERENCE.txt that list different test users18:56
EdwinGrubbsrunyaga: Hi, Alan18:56
awilkinsExcellent, thanks18:56
runyagaEdwinGrubbs, how it goes! good job re: cleaning up and releasing launchpad18:56
awilkinsbac: Maybe that should go in the FAQ?18:56
mthaddonawilkins: I think what you're thinking of is logging into an LP instance as a user that's a member of the ~admins team18:56
runyagareally great18:56
bacawilkins: yes, probably.18:57
mthaddonawilkins: although off hand I don't know which of the sample data users are in that team - I guess the README might show that18:57
bacawilkins: "Foo Bar" is a an admin for launchpad.dev and the one we most frequently use when testing.18:58
awilkinsJust looking18:58
awilkinsYes, there he is18:58
awilkinsin README18:58
awilkinsI don't think I've configured email sending correctly yet, my puny attempts at registering myself failed19:00
leonardrbarry: if it's one to one, the mailing list should be a property of the team19:11
leonardrand it will show up as /~guadamen/mailinglist19:11
leonardrthat *should* work now19:11
barryleonardr: it's always one-to-one... thanks!19:11
barryleonardr: i think i just have to export that19:12
sivangcongrets for the release! I knew this will come19:13
Ursinhasinzui, I'd love to understand why ie8 shows that stupid continue button in the middle of the page19:14
bigjoolspkern, wgrant, flacoste: right, we *rarely* run soyuz locally, and in many cases it's impossible because you need a build farm.  you can run the publisher and the upload processor locally though.19:14
sorenThose bzr-1.17.tar.{gz,bz2} things at http://people.canonical.com/~herb/... They're not actually bzr, are they? > 160MB seems like a lot.19:14
sinzuiUrsinha: I will never be able to provide that answer. I so not have any IE browsers.19:15
sorenI'm guessing they're tared up launchpad trees, but the name suggests otherwise.19:15
salgadosoren, they could be bzr branches of the bzr project19:16
pkernbigjools: How would I run e.g. the publisher, i.e. what's the wrapper to run scripts in the tree?19:16
herbsoren: it was bzr19:22
pkernfreenode hickup?19:22
sinzuiflacoste: may I have your RC for this change to fix the timeouts on +series pages: https://pastebin.canonical.com/20166/19:23
sorenherb: Oh, wow.19:23
awilkinssoren: It's bzr with the full history19:24
herbsoren: I had bzr branched from the bzr-1.17 branch and tarred it up.19:24
awilkinssoren: e.g. - includes a repository, not a just source19:24
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=== ursula_ is now known as Ursinha
herbok. new tarballs up with the fixed rocketfuel-setup19:36
herbflacoste: ^19:36
=== matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk
beunosinzui, did you know about this: https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+download19:49
beunoempty series showing up19:50
sinzuiI have not seen that19:50
sinzuibeuno: I think we can fix that at the same time we link them19:50
beunosinzui, should I assign it to wgrant?19:51
* beuno giggles19:51
sinzuiHe can fix his own bugs now...19:51
sinzui...except that I suspect I made most of the bugs he reported19:51
beunoshhhh19:52
cody-somervillethat was weird...19:53
sinzuibeuno: we are both karma whores. We have the most karma in the Launchpad Regisrty project. I enable him to report bugs, and he enables me to fix them19:53
cody-somervilleI just clicked a link on edge that sent me to code.launchpad.dev19:53
cody-somervillethe link seems fine now19:53
Ursinhakiko, :)19:57
flacostesinzui: was your branch reviewed?20:04
sinzuiflacoste: yes, by bac20:05
flacostesinzui: do you have the m-p?20:05
sinzuiflacoste: https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/series-performance/+merge/910020:05
* rockstar hunts for nourishment20:06
leonelJust a BIG  THANK YOU  !!20:07
bachi EdwinGrubbs, got a few minutes?20:09
marsleonel, :)20:09
EdwinGrubbsbac: sure20:09
bacEdwinGrubbs: did you see my msgs?20:13
barrybac: ping20:17
bachi barry20:17
pkernSo how will the launchpad wiki be opened?20:22
flacostepkern: it's opened already, dev.launchpad.net20:23
DoctorMOWell done, it'20:23
flacostewe haven't used the old one for a while now, edits to it have been closed for several months20:23
pkernflacoste: Well, there are many references to the old one.20:23
DoctorMONow I can re-gain access to launchpad code :-D20:24
RichWThis right channel for launchpad crashes?20:24
pkernLike https://launchpad.canonical.com/LibrarianTransactions20:24
flacostepkern: yeah, it's been gardened properly20:24
flacostemany of the pages have actually been moved, but not the interlinks20:24
flacostesome pages have not been moved20:24
flacostebut many of these are obsolete anyway20:24
flacostes/it's been/it's not been/20:25
pkern\-:20:25
pkernHah, scripts/ftpmaster-tools, oh well.20:28
rockstarmthaddon, where can I find the loggerhead logs?20:36
DoctorMOHey herb20:38
herbhowdy20:39
mthaddonrockstar: looks like there's an in progress RT to fix that (missing firewall settings to allow rsyncing)20:39
mthaddonrockstar: although I think we're planning to move the machine into the LAN (currently in the DMZ) so it may need to wait til then20:40
capitandorko120:41
rockstarmthaddon, huh.  Well, I'm getting an unhelpful "Internal Server Error" on a user's branch, and I'd like to see why. What's the process for finding out?20:41
joey(typo)20:41
mthaddonrockstar: lemme check20:41
rockstarmthaddon, I 'spect that mwhudson has super powers on the server itself, so it's not something that's been needed before.20:42
mthaddonrockstar: bzr error or apache error?20:42
rockstarmthaddon, bzr error.20:42
mthaddonrockstar: so codehosting not loggerhead?20:43
rockstarIt's a loggerhead issue.  When I get it in local loggerhead devel, I usually can see the output from the running server in the terminal.20:43
rockstarmthaddon, no, it's a problem with loggerhead's server.20:43
mthaddonrockstar: ok, I see the debug.log - what should I be looking for?20:44
rockstarmthaddon, something mentioning  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~richies/hypernucleus-server/trunk/annotate/head%3A/hypernucleusserver/config/20:48
MarkusT1Allright, I just removed all files and run the launchpad Setup again (according to the launchpad wiki). Still getting the same error, when running "make schema":20:49
MarkusT1Traceback (most recent call last):20:49
MarkusT1  File "buildmailman.py", line 15, in ?20:49
MarkusT1    from canonical.config import config20:49
MarkusT1  File "/home/thielmann/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/lib/canonical/config/__init__.py", line 19, in ?20:49
MarkusT1    import ZConfig20:50
mthaddonrockstar: https://pastebin.canonical.com/20172/20:50
MarkusT1ImportError: No module named ZConfig20:50
* barry runs20:50
MarkusT1make: *** [compile] Error 120:50
MarkusT1Any ideas?20:50
RichWMissing a python module.20:50
UrsinhaMarkusT1, do you have the sourcedeps?20:50
Ursinhaif so, did you run the utilities/link-external-sourcecode script?20:51
MarkusT1Ursinha: Could you be more specific? I was just running rf-setup (two times now, including a complete wipe between). "mars" already told me to run utilities/link-externel-sourcecode, but I was unable to figure out what to use for "options" and "parents" (Usage: link-external-sourcecode [options] [parent])20:52
bigjoolsparent is the lp-sourcedeps dir20:52
UrsinhaMarkusT1, do you see a sourcecode folder inside lp folder?20:53
MarkusT1ls -l20:53
MarkusT1total 1220:53
MarkusT1drwxr-xr-x  4 thielmann thielmann 4096 2009-07-21 19:35 download-cache20:53
MarkusT1drwxr-xr-x 61 thielmann thielmann 4096 2009-07-21 19:50 eggs20:53
MarkusT1drwxr-xr-x  2 thielmann thielmann 4096 2009-07-21 19:33 sourcecode20:53
MarkusT1It's empty20:53
UrsinhaMarkusT1, use the pastebin, please :)20:53
Ursinhait's empty because the links weren't created20:53
MarkusT1So, how do I create the links?20:53
Ursinhausing the script :)20:53
MarkusT1Which script?20:54
Ursinhautilities/link-externel-sourcecode20:54
Ursinha*external20:54
MarkusT1So just "utilities/link-external-sourcecode lp-sourcedeps" ?20:55
bigjoolscd into the devel dir, then run it as "utilities/link-external-sourcecode ../../lp-sourcedeps20:55
UrsinhaMarkusT1, see, that's why I asked you if you have the sourcedeps20:55
Ursinhawhat bigjools said :)20:55
MarkusT1Ursinha: there's zero output and I don't think it did anything at all?20:56
bigjoolsthat's normal20:56
UrsinhaMarkusT1, if there's zero output it did nothing20:56
Ursinhabigjools, for me it shows the links20:57
bigjoolsoh no it it's not :)20:57
Ursinhalol20:57
MarkusT1So what do I do now?20:57
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UrsinhaMarkusT1, what do you have inside lp-sourcedeps20:58
Ursinha?20:58
MarkusT1As I said above: download-cache, eggs, sourcecode20:58
bigjoolswhat's in the sourcecode dir?20:58
MarkusT1bigjools: Nothing20:58
Ursinhathat's weird20:59
bigjoolsok, rocketfuel-setup didn't complete fully then, can you run rocketfuel-get20:59
Ursinhahm20:59
Ursinhayes20:59
bigjoolsit's in utiltities21:00
No1VikingGot one question: Does Launchpad take care of version hirstory of source code or do I need to install subversion or something else?21:00
bigjoolsutilities*21:00
mthaddonNo1Viking: we use bzr for versioning the code21:00
UrsinhaMarkusT1, please, run utilities/rocketfuel-get for it to finish downloading the dependencies21:00
awilkinsNo1Viking: If you installed your own instance of Launchpad you already have Bazaar21:00
No1VikingI have a Hardy server here. Will it configure apache and everything automagically?21:01
awilkinsMarkusT1: You might also have to update your launchpad-developer-dependencies package21:02
mthaddonNo1Viking: rocketfuel-setup will do, yes - be sure to read the comments as it's pretty invasive in terms of changes21:02
awilkinsNo1Viking: Nope, you need Jaunty21:02
MarkusT1Ursinha: Tried that before, doesn't work: http://pastebin.org/345421:02
awilkinsNo1Viking: Patches gratefully accepted21:02
* Ursinha looks21:02
mthaddonawilkins: I'd be surprised if it doesn't run on hardy...21:02
awilkinsmthaddon: Would you have to install the deps manually though?21:03
MarkusT1awilkins: apt-get says: launchpad-developer-dependencies is already the newest version.21:03
MarkusT1awilkins: Ah, sorry. Needed an update.21:04
mthaddonawilkins: I don't think so - there should be a meta-package for hardy as well21:04
MarkusT1Will try that.21:04
Ursinhabigjools, do you know what's MarkusT1 problem doing the rf-get?21:04
gmbawilkins: It runs on hardy just fine - I ran it in a Hardy chroot for quite some time and the servers are running Hardy.21:04
bigjoolslooking into it now21:04
No1Vikingawilkins, at the site, https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting, it says the following: "Note that right now, Launchpad can only be built and run on Ubuntu (8.04 "Hardy" to 9.04 "Jaunty")."21:04
awilkinsOk, fine21:04
awilkinsAh, they updated that, I think21:04
awilkinsIt said Jaunty a while back - pages are in flux :-021:05
awilkinsOr I'm just going mad21:05
joeymthaddon: Interesting. I just got this from sucking down RF get: "Got a 200 response when asking for multiple ranges, does your server at bazaar.launchpad.net:80 support range requests?"21:05
No1VikingI hope so, cos I will try to install it tomorrow21:05
mthaddonjoey: no idea I'm afraid21:06
joeymthaddon: yeah, I think that might need to go to jml / thumper / mwhudson21:06
mwhudsonmorning21:06
No1VikingLast Q: Will it be possible to have all programming languages in it?21:06
joeyoh hi mwhudson21:07
mthaddonNo1Viking: in what sense? You mean to host a project that's written in any language? definitely, yes21:07
gmbNo1Viking: I don't understand the question.21:07
awilkinsNo1Viking: Files are files.21:07
bigjoolsMarkusT1: what happens if you run: bzr info lp:~launchpad-pqm/bzr-git/devel/21:07
No1Vikingmthaddon, thanks för the answer21:08
mthaddonsure21:08
bigjoolsjoey: proxy server in the way?21:08
joeybigjools: none. I'm doing -Dhpss to see if I get anything interesting21:09
bigjoolsjoey: might be a transparent one21:09
No1VikingGood luck all. I'm happy with Ubuntu and I have it here in my house and we're getting it at work too. Thanks for your help all of ya!21:09
joeybigjools: never stopped me before :-)21:09
bigjoolsjoey: the bzr guys were saying earlier you get that error with bad proxies, anyway21:10
MarkusT1awilkins: updated launchpad-developer-dependencies, ran and link-external-sourcecode and rf-get again. Problem persists.21:10
MarkusT1bigjools: http://pastebin.org/345721:10
mwhudsonjoey: what are you trying to do?21:10
joeymwhudson: get rocketfuel-get the normal user way via the instructions on the wiki21:10
mwhudsonjoey: what command are you running?21:11
bigjoolsflacoste: can you check MarkusT1's paste,  http://pastebin.org/345421:11
joeymwhudson: as posted on the wiki plus debug "bzr -Dhpss --no-plugins cat http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup > rocketfuel-setup"21:11
bigjoolsI've no idea wtf is wrong21:11
joeymwhudson: see https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting21:11
mwhudsonjoey: -Dhpss isn't going to help much for a http url21:11
mwhudsonjoey: you could try -Dhttp though21:12
joeythe reason I'm doing this, btw, is just to QA the wiki :-)21:12
joeymwhudson: I'll give it go21:12
flacosteMarkusT1: did you fix rocketfuel-get?21:12
flacosteMarkusT1: there is a typo in the script21:13
flacosteMarkusT1: at least some versions of it21:13
MarkusT1Well, after the first install failed, I deleted everything and downloaded again. I didn't fix anything by myself. Where do I find information about this fix?21:13
flacosteMarkusT1: you got the tar ball? or the branch directly?21:14
MarkusT1I'm just following the wiki21:14
MarkusT1flacoste: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting21:15
flacosteMarkusT1: using "Getting It" or "Alternative Sourcecode Download"?21:16
flacosteMarkusT1: you are running rocketfuel-setup, right?21:16
MarkusT1flacoste: Getting it. Yes, I'm running rocketfuel-setup. Two times now. (Well, in fact I ran it more often to check if it solves problem "by itself" :-))21:16
joeymwhudson: thinking of bigjools's comment, I also removed all my pre-existing locations info.  I still get http://paste.ubuntu.com/223833/ with no "real" error21:16
joeybzr 1.17 as well21:17
flacosteMarkusT1: ok, hang on, the fix is being commited to devel as we speak21:18
MarkusT1flacoste: Wow, great. What should I do once it's commited?21:18
flacosteMarkusT1:  once mthaddon gives us the go, you should just cd to ~/launchpad/lp-branches/devel and do a bzr pull21:19
flacostethat should update utilities/rocketfuel-get21:19
flacosteand you should be able to run rocketfuel-setup once again21:19
flacoste(without deleting anything)21:19
joeymwhudson: when I got to the URI in the wiki page, I get a not-found from codebrowse.  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/utilities/rocketfuel-setup21:19
mthaddonstill in progress, shouldn't be too long21:20
mwhudsonjoey: yes, that's expected21:20
mwhudsonjoey: can you paste a bit more of .bzr.log ?21:21
mthaddonflacoste: revno 8971 of devel21:22
flacostemthaddon: thanks21:22
mhall119|workis bzr branch lp:launchpad supposed to take so long21:22
mhall119|work?21:22
mthaddonit's a pretty big branch, yeah21:22
flacostemhall119|work: yes, there is about 150M of data and it's really loaded now21:22
mhall119|workwow21:22
joeymwhudson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223842/21:22
mhall119|workokay, well I'm at 90M now, so may as well finish21:23
mhall119|workis that all code, or what?21:23
mwhudsonjoey: that's really strange21:23
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: ping21:23
EdwinGrubbssinzui: pong21:24
joeymwhudson: just thought of something... I have some ssh config settings21:24
joeymwhudson: let me remove the LP ones21:24
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: have you seen any floating radio button when you tested with IE 8? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/7750421:24
mwhudsonjoey: this is over http, ssh really shouldn't matter...21:24
joeymwhudson: yeah :-)21:25
EdwinGrubbssinzui: that question doesn't mention radio buttons. It says "for an unknown raison a button", so it's probably what I fixed.21:25
sinzuiWhich bug number is it so that I can link it to the question?21:26
flacosteMarkusT1: can you try again?21:26
joeymwhudson: I'm making you a new full Dhttp version of bzr.log21:26
flacosteMarkusT1: so bzr pull followed by a rocketfuel-setup again21:27
EdwinGrubbssinzui: I linked it and added a comment.21:27
sinzuithanks21:27
MarkusT1flacoste: mthaddon: You're really great, guys! Pulled the update and now rocketfuel-setup is actually branching the missing files. Will see if "make schema" run's this time. Thank you so much for updating the tools so fast!21:28
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: feedback@ emails are the only thing I have not done.21:28
sinzuiwell and I never answered any IRC questions21:28
UrsinhaMarkusT1, :)21:28
MarkusT1Ursinha: Thank you, too! :-)21:28
EdwinGrubbssinzui: I did those already. There was only one email that wasn't one of your project processing emails.21:28
UrsinhaMarkusT1, no problem :)21:28
rockstarmwhudson, ping21:29
joeymwhudson: full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/223845/21:29
EdwinGrubbssinzui: it really seems like feedback@ should use RT.21:29
sinzuiEdwinGrubbs: Then you wont have any CHR work untul next month21:29
mwhudsonrockstar: hi21:36
EdwinGrubbssinzui: thanks alot21:37
rockstarmwhudson, do you have access to loggerhead logs?21:37
mwhudsonrockstar: yes, but if it's the problem with annotate it's fixed in rocketfuel already21:38
rockstarmwhudson, okay, so it'll be out in the rollout?21:38
joeyflacoste: was the fix to RF related to launchpad-developer-dependencies?21:40
joeys/rf/rocketfuel-get21:40
flacostejoey: no, that was a separate issue21:40
joeyflacoste: ok but it's know. cool21:40
joeyI'll work around it then21:40
flacostejoey: what's the issue?21:40
joeyflacoste: I got "Package `launchpad-developer-dependencies' is not installed and no info is available."  from rf-get but the pkg is there and I can install it by hand.21:41
mwhudsonrockstar: loggerhead has edge-style rollouts now, around about now i think21:41
flacostejoey: that's a new one21:41
joeyflacoste: I think it's not a blocker, just a confusing situation.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/223857/21:42
mwhudsonjoey: that's really odd21:43
mwhudsonjoey: are there any proxies lurking?21:43
mwhudson(i don't see any in the headers so they would have to be pretty evil ones)21:43
joeymwhudson: that's what bigjools suggested. I'm direct connect to real-world and afaik there shouldn't be any21:44
joeymwhudson: but it is possible something on my untangle box is getting involved21:44
rockstarmwhudson, okay, great.21:44
joeymwhudson: I have a webfilter :-)21:44
* joey goes off and tries to whitelist launchpad21:44
barryjml: wouldn't it be cooler if bzr-tools-grep did a case-insensitive grep?21:45
mwhudsonjoey: oh, well that's a little suspicious21:46
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thumpermorning21:46
mwhudsonjoey: can you run this command:21:47
mwhudsoncurl --silent --trace-ascii log.1 --range 10-20,20-30 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/.bzr/repository/indices/c4f5f44fe87847349a73c775afac3555.iix > log.221:47
Ursinhasinzui, on ie8 it shows all the boxes, as if there's no hide/show arrow21:47
* Ursinha finally managed to make vmware work without borking everything else21:48
joeymwhudson: done. log.1 is log, log.2 is bin21:48
sinzuiUrsinha: EdwinGrubbs ^ is IE 8 unsuable then?21:49
joeymwhudson:21:49
joeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/223860/21:49
Ursinhasinzui, no no, it's possible to use it because it apparently behaves as if js was disabled21:49
Ursinhalet me take a screenshot21:49
Ursinhaawww stupid me21:50
Ursinhalooking in the wrong field :( fail21:50
rockstarthumper, we have a call in 10, right?21:50
thumperrockstar: yes we do21:50
Ursinhawell, but the answer wasn't wrong after all21:50
mwhudsonjoey: i think something must be dicking with your request en route :(21:50
Misterniarkhi21:51
sinzuibarry: EdwinGrubbs: Ursinha: can either of you ensure that the the inline edit widget is not shown in IE since it does not work21:51
rockstarthumper, okay, hadn't seen you around, just making sure everything was still koshery.21:51
Ursinhasinzui, it just doesn't work as expected, but you can type in the languages with text21:51
barryUrsinha: what happens?21:51
Ursinhasinzui, it's not shown, yes21:51
thumperrockstar: I said "morning" :)21:52
Misterniarkscuse me, but make schema return a error21:52
thumperrockstar: probably lost in the noise21:52
Misterniarkutilities/shhh.py python2.4 bootstrap.py --ez_setup-source=ez_setup.py \21:52
Misterniark--download-base=download-cache/dist --eggs=eggs21:52
Misterniarkutilities/shhh.py make -C sourcecode build PYTHON=python2.4 \21:52
Misterniark    PYTHON_VERSION=2.4 LPCONFIG=development21:52
Misterniarkmake[2]: *** [download-cache] Erreur 121:52
Misterniarkmake[1]: *** [build] Erreur 221:52
barryUrsinha: do you have a screen shot, or a vm i can (attempt to) attach to?21:52
Ursinhabarry, let me check again21:53
barryMisterniark: your error is way up higher than that, unfortunately21:53
Misterniarksomebody have had this probleme21:53
Misterniarkbarry: sorry ?21:53
barryMisterniark: sorry, i wasn't clear. ;)  look higher up in your output to find the actual error21:54
thumperMisterniark: get the entire output and pastebin it21:54
parolangIf any of the launchpad devs are here, I want to congratulate you on the announcement.  I think this is as good as any of us could have hoped.21:55
joeyparolang: We're happy you liked it.  Isn't that right kfogel? ;-)21:55
kfogeljoey: I'm technically away having food, but yes, absolutely right :-).21:56
Misterniarkbarry: thank for your help http://pastebin.com/m79581ae821:56
kfogeljoey: (actually, sending the rollout downtime announcement first -- food next :-) )21:57
joeymwhudson: I don't seem to get that except on that command. rf-setup seems to have run fine (despite two non-blocking issues) and rf-get is running at full speed.21:57
joeymwhudson: heh, spoke too soon21:57
Ursinhabarry, sinzui, okay, so here's what happens21:58
Ursinhabarry, sinzui, you click in the exclamation icon, it redirects you to the +edit page21:58
barryMisterniark: i'm sorry, but that's not enough to figure out what's going wrong :(  one thing to try is "make SHHH= build" and capture all the output21:58
barryUrsinha: so that could mean several things21:59
barrywell, hmm. it seems like the edit icon isn't hooked up to the javascript21:59
barrythough i don't know why that would be22:00
DoctorMOherb: So did the lp canonical irc channel move here, or is it still live?22:00
Misterniarkbarry: thanks again http://pastebin.com/mc2a00bd22:00
Ursinhabarry, oh, isn't hooked up to the javascript?22:00
barryUrsinha: well, if it were, it would let you edit inline, so ie is doing something dumb here ;)22:01
abentleythumper: ping22:01
barryMisterniark: did you run utilities/link-external-sourcecode?22:01
thumperabentley: pong22:01
herbDoctorMO: this is the dev channel for launchpad. some of the canonical-specific operational issues will probably stay on the lp canonical irc channel.22:01
abentleythumper: chat?22:01
Ursinhabarry, this is how ie has behaving for some time with our inline edits22:02
thumperabentley: just about to have a scheduled call with rockstar22:02
abentleythumper: Okay.22:02
barryUrsinha: ah, so it's not a problem specifically with the inline language editor, but a more general problem with lazr-js?22:02
Misterniarkbarry: link-external-sourcecode : http://pastebin.com/m2975bdaf22:03
Ursinhabarry, maybe. for instance: if you click in the icon to edit the status of a bug, it redirects you to +edit-status page22:03
barryMisterniark: something's wrong with your checkout.  did you run rocketfuel-setup, and did it succeed?22:04
Misterniarkbarry: sorry but i dont understand anythink22:04
Misterniarkbarry: yes !22:04
barryhuh22:04
barryweird22:04
DoctorMOherb: Ah like the deployment and such, makes sense.22:04
Misterniarkbarry: an error on python -minimal at start22:04
Ursinha+editstatus, sorry22:05
barryUrsinha: yep, that sounds like a more general lazr-js bug22:05
Misterniarkbarry: but ok after apt-get install -f22:05
barryMisterniark: hmm. maybe you're missing some dependencies?22:06
barryMisterniark: i haven't seen this problem before :(22:06
DoctorMOherb: thanks :-)22:06
herbDoctorMO: sure. you're welcome.22:06
Misterniarkbarry: argg22:06
barryMisterniark: what is the "python -minimal" error?22:06
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DoctorMOherb: And well done on the release, I just got the code myself as I've been busy writing this sys-admin course.22:07
barryMisterniark: do you have the python-dev package installed?  you'll definitely need that22:08
herbDoctorMO: I'm just an ops guy. :) Thank the other folks here for doing the hard work.22:08
Ursinhasinzui, barry, so, do you want me to file a bug about it?22:08
DoctorMOherb: Well, you all get credit :-D22:08
sinzuiUrsinha: yes please22:08
Ursinhaok, a minute22:08
Misterniarkhttp://pastebin.com/d4c5fb58322:08
barryUrsinha: yes, i think so.  on lazr-js project22:09
DoctorMOherb: Although if you don't feel like you've done enough community work ;-) I'm sure peer reviewing my course would be most welcome :-D22:09
barryMisterniark: i have to hand you over to one of the bzr guys at this point.  maybe thumper jml or mwhudson knows what that problem is22:09
Misterniarkbarry: thank you22:10
Misterniarkbarry: sorry for your time22:10
mwhudsonuhh22:11
mwhudsonthat doesn't look right22:11
* mwhudson tries for himself22:11
barryMisterniark: no worries.  i've been working for almost 14 hours now, so i think i'm done for the day ;)22:11
herbDoctorMO: I'm not sure one can do enough community work. But the day job is keeping me busy lately.22:11
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Misterniarkbye barry thank you22:12
DoctorMOJust a coincidence that it's busy during this time. Anyway it won't be complete for a few more weeks.22:12
MarkusT1OMG, it's actually working! Thanks again, folks! There was just one thing left: I needed to follow https://dev.launchpad.net/DatabaseSetup, since the "make schema" obviously didn't like my psql setup and my user was missing. But nevertheless, IT'S WORKING! Thanks again! :-)22:13
thumperjono: morning22:14
bigjoolsMarkusT1: great!22:14
thumperjono: boy do we need you here :)22:14
flacosteMisterniark: did you run rocketfuel-setup? or at least utilities/link-external-source?22:14
DoctorMOthumper: community problems?22:14
thumperDoctorMO: well, jono is a funny guy, and we like fun here :)22:15
jonothumper, hey, in a meeting now, back soon - happy to help :)22:15
Misterniarkflacoste: yes , but it seems i have a probleme with python22:16
flacosteMisterniark: what problem?22:16
DoctorMOthumper: http://raisegrate.deviantart.com/art/Pirate-Penguin-Goes-Shopping-13028272322:16
Misterniarki try to reinstall but apt say to me " no probleme buddy ! "22:16
flacostewhat did you try reinstalling?22:17
Misterniarkflacoste: http://pastebin.com/d4c5fb58322:17
flacosteMisterniark: try going to ~/launchpad/lp-branches/devel and run bzr pull22:18
flacostethen try again22:19
Misterniarkoki i try thank you22:19
Misterniarkflacoste: No revisions to pull.22:20
flacosteMisterniark: what do you have in ~/launchpad/lp-sourcedeps/sourcecode?22:21
thumperflacoste: it seems like it is a bzr-git issue, but not sure22:21
flacostewell, it might22:22
flacostebut i want to make sure it's not an artefact of the rocketfuel-get screw-up22:22
flacosteit treated all branches as an optional branch22:22
flacosteand stacked them on devel22:22
Misterniarkflacoste: yes i have22:22
flacostewhich of course would screw durwhich22:23
mwhudsonMisterniark: i don't get that error, is there a possibility you have a "transparent" proxy between you and launchpad22:23
mwhudson?22:23
flacosteMisterniark: you mean, you have many directories in there?22:23
flacostemwhudson: i suspect it's an artefact from the rocketfuel-get error22:23
mwhudsonflacoste: oh, i didn't see that22:23
Misterniarkflacoste: notes and testes22:23
flacosteMisterniark: ?22:24
flacosteMisterniark: can you pastebin ls ~/launchpad/lp-sourcedeps/sourcecode22:24
Misterniarkmwhudson : hello , proxy between me and launchpad ???22:24
mwhudsonMisterniark: yes22:24
mwhudsonMisterniark: for instance, i have one thanks to my isp22:24
Misterniarkflacoste: http://pastebin.com/d6d87f0122:24
mwhudson(luckily they seem to have fixed it recently, and it doesn't break so often any more...)22:25
flacosteMisterniark: you only have bzr-git i assume?22:25
flacosteMisterniark: there are no other directories in ls ~/launchpad/lp-sourcedeps/sourcecode22:25
flacosteMisterniark: is that right? in that case, simply delete bzr-git and try running rocketfuel-get again22:26
Misterniarkflacoste: i have some error in output of rocketfuel-get22:29
flacostepastebin?22:29
Misterniarkhttp://pastebin.com/d357e5db822:29
Misterniarkit so big to have entier output in my termianl22:30
joeymwhudson, bigjools -  http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu  confirmed a transparent proxy somewhere on my line22:30
mwhudsonjoey: "transparent" heh heh heh22:30
beeman_nli get this error when running make schema: psql: FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user "bbo01"  , i guess it's got something to do with Postgres authentication?22:31
Ursinhasinzui, barry-away, bug 40273622:31
ubot3Malone bug 402736 in lazr-js "Buttons seem not hooked up to js in IE8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40273622:31
mwhudsonMisterniark: can you do this: cd /tmp; bzr get lp:~launchpad-pqm/dulwich/devel dulwich22:31
beeman_nli can give the complete output if needed22:31
mwhudsonbeeman_nl: you need to do things to your postgres install22:32
Ursinhasinzui, I thought we were disabling js magic on ie8, and that was on purpose22:32
mwhudsonbeeman_nl: have you seen https://dev.launchpad.net/DatabaseSetup ?22:32
beeman_nlmwhudson: oke, thanks. it was not on the system before launchpad install, so it's probably not configured22:32
beeman_nlmwhudson: nope :) i just ran the commands from https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting22:33
mwhudsonbeeman_nl: i guess we should mention something about this on there then!22:33
beeman_nli'll check the db setup page :)22:33
Misterniarkmwhudson: and after ?22:34
mwhudsonMisterniark: did it work?22:35
mwhudsonMisterniark: if it completed successfully then something a bit strange is going on22:36
Misterniarksame error22:37
mwhudsonMisterniark: ah, ok22:37
Misterniarki start to zer0 tomorrow22:37
beeman_nlmwhudson: it now continues, i ran "launchpad-database-setup $USER" from the utilities directory, so it's a good idea to mention it on that page :)22:37
Misterniarkso stange22:37
Misterniarkthank for helping22:38
Misterniarkits night for me, so good night22:38
beeman_nlgood night Misterniark22:38
mwhudsonbeeman_nl: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting?action=diff&rev2=18&rev1=1622:39
mwhudson:)22:39
mwhudsonMisterniark: np, hope it works better for you tomorrow22:39
beeman_nlmwhudson: that's great, thanks :)22:39
Misterniarkmwhudson: thank you22:39
sinzuiUrsinha: that is what I thought too. but I see there are IE 8 users reporting bugs. Since IE 8 was untested for that feature I asked you to test, I thought it best ti find out22:42
Ursinhasinzui, I see22:42
sinzuiUrsinha: EdwinGrubbs investigate 1 issues yesterday that turned out to be 3. I think that since IE is buggy, we cannot easily turn it off22:43
Ursinhahm22:43
MarkusT1Might be a dump question, but is there a kind of superuser-login for the local branch? I can't find any references in ./config?22:46
sinzuiMarkusT1: do you mean you want to login as the test admin?22:47
MarkusT1sinzui: Yes22:47
sinzuiMarkusT1:  foo.bar@canonical.com:test22:47
mwhudson“Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft-building progress by weight.” <- good quote22:47
MarkusT1sinzui: Thanks!22:48
mwhudsonfrom bill gates of all people??22:48
sinzuiMarkusT1: I think it is in one or two README files in the doctest or pagetests directory22:48
sinzuiI once measured my wife in light years22:48
sinzuiI think I also gave her weight in liters22:49
thumpersinzui: please use admin@canonical.com:test22:49
thumpersinzui: using foo.bar is obscure22:49
thumpersinzui: which is why I added that "admin@canonical.com" email for Foo Bar22:49
MarkusT1sinzui: Yeah, as I said: This might be a dump question. :-)  I'm still struggling with all the files and directories :-)22:49
sinzuithumper: I will. I'll give an rs to the person that fixes it22:49
MarkusT1God, "dump". I better get some sleep....22:50
sinzuiMarkusT1: I understand. The directly structure is better, but not good yet22:50
pkernILaunchpadCelebrities...22:51
Ursinhasinzui, do you want me to test on ie6 and 7?22:51
greg-gthought: shouldn't "Launchpad" be one of the featured projects on the launchpad.net homepage? :)22:52
sinzuiUrsinha: no, I am sure they are also broken. We need to be more certain that we are not giving IE an AJAX experience, or very certain it works for them22:53
Ursinhasinzui, okay22:53
sinzuigreg-g: It may be when we release in a day22:53
greg-gsinzui: cool22:53
joeylol22:54
joeygreg-g: that's awesome22:54
greg-gjoey: :)22:54
greg-gfiguted it was something to feature22:54
joeyI'm going to do that right now. :-)22:54
joeyooh bug22:55
joeybeuno: I think this one is for you.  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/40274722:57
ubot3Malone bug 402747 in launchpad "The requested URL /@@popup-window was not found on this server." [Undecided,New]22:57
joeyUrsinha: matsubara - could one of you triage that for me pretty please.  ^^22:57
joeyflacoste: fyi ^^22:57
matsubarajoey, sure22:57
joeyshouldn't be an issue anywhere 'cept there methinks22:57
joeygreg-g: your wish, my command.  launchpad.net/22:58
greg-gjoey: tight!22:59
greg-gjoey: nit-picking now: the 2 columns are now uneven by 2, thus could be exactly even. :)22:59
joeygreg-g: yeah, filing a bug about that :-)22:59
joeygreg-g: it's actually somewhat of a hack if you look at the code.23:00
joeygreg-g: when that has happened before we sometimes take off some of the older featured projects23:00
greg-gjoey: oh, wow, interesting.23:00
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joeygreg-g: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/40274923:03
ubot3Malone bug 402749 in launchpad "featured projects list columns are uneven" [Undecided,New]23:03
sinzuikfogel: ^ I think that bug is your call23:04
firefly2442Has Rosetta (https://launchpad.net/rosetta) been released as part of Launchpad going GPL?23:05
joeysinzui: yeah, I don't have access to the code atm (downloading) but I think there's a number there that tells us to split the display.23:06
joeysinzui: I think *I* may even be responsible for it.23:06
kfogelsinzui: 402749?  I mean, I'm all for having an evenly divided list.  Have no idea where that code is...23:07
sinzuijoey: The new design may have a fix for that problem. Well I tested the homepage with the new rules and they worked23:07
joeyoh cool sinzui23:07
kfogelfirefly2442: yes23:08
sinzuikfogel: I believe someone with the right power needs to add or remove a project from one of the lists. I thought that power was conveyed to you23:08
wgrantMorning.23:08
kfogelsinzui: might well have been, not sure; can check23:08
kfogelwgrant: morning!23:08
joeykfogel: somewhere near  lib/canonical/launchpad/templates/root-index.pt23:08
kfogel*nod*23:09
joeyiirc23:09
kfogelokay, really really food now :-)  back later23:09
joeysinzui: yeah it was unbalanced by one before. I added one just now and it's listing :-)23:09
sinzuisymmetry is overrated23:11
* pkern is said that LP doesn't ship with a GPG key included.23:11
pkern*sad.  Because GPG key import doesn't work out of the box. ;-)23:11
wgrantpkern: But you have psql....23:11
abentleythumper: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~abentley/launchpad/notify-oops23:12
pkernwgrant: True23:15
rockstarthumper, my internets - they eated themselfs23:21
pkernwgrant: How do I run something in that custom python2.4 env?23:21
pkernwgrant: I can hack sys.path in the script itself or supply a huge PYTHONPATH but both sounds wrong.23:22
rockstarpkern, make harness23:22
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rockstarthumper, are you done, or can you call again?23:23
wgrantbin/py, too.23:23
* pkern chuckles at bin/py23:24
awilkinsIs LP going to support wiki any time soon?23:24
awilkinsI saw the Trac migration kit and thought "cool, wiki"23:24
awilkinsBut it's just bugs :-(23:24
jmlbarry-away, re bzr-tools -- I'm not sure, I've relied on the case sensitivity before23:25
MT-What kind of requirements does LP need to run decent?23:25
UrsinhaMT-, check the topic :)23:25
MT-Ursinha: ?23:26
UrsinhaMT-, https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting23:26
MT-Ursinha: that doesn't mention requirements though23:28
mthaddonawilkins: I believe it's been discussed, but not sure if there are firm plans23:29
thumperrockstar: we are done23:29
rockstarthumper, okay.  I missed like 10 minutes of that meeting though.  Anything interesting?23:30
mwhudsonrockstar: it ended a while ago23:30
mwhudsonrockstar: you really didn't miss a lot23:30
awilkinsmthaddon: There's a bug ( #240067 ) but it's triaged23:30
pkernwgrant: It looks you need to put it into some keyring though.23:30
rockstarmwhudson, okay.  I assume just thumper waxing philosophical? :)23:30
jmlthumper, abentley, rockstar, mwhudson: sorry!23:31
awilkinsmthaddon: It's a "checklist feature" IMHO23:31
mthaddonyep23:31
mwhudsonjml: morning23:31
awilkinsmthaddon: Not that it's a commercial product (although I can see a lucrative commercial support market)23:31
rockstarjml, morning!23:31
UrsinhaMT-, so I guess it's missing somehow in the docs, but you can file a bug against launchpad-documentation project mentioning that23:32
abentleyjml: morning!23:32
Ursinhaas your first contribution to lp now opensource :)23:32
rockstarDammit, now I can't tab complete jml's name so easily anymore.23:32
jmlsorry.23:32
Ursinhalol23:32
MT-Ursinha: :P - will do23:32
Ursinhathanks MT-!23:32
wgrantpkern: Hm, indeed. What's broken about the web UI adding process?23:33
jmlrockstar, I've occasionally thought of assuming my old handle of mumak, but the rebranding would cost too much.23:33
jmlwgrant, good morning.23:33
wgrantjml: Morning!23:34
rockstarjml, mumak would work well for my tab completion needs at the moment.23:34
gmbrockstar: Sadly, when in his mumak guise, jml has a tendency to trample the forces of good.23:35
MT-Does Launchpad-FOSS allow us to create private branches?23:35
jmlgmb, well, I do that more subtly in this guise.23:35
pkernwgrant: It takes strange things about keyserver.ubuntu.com23:35
pkern*talkes.  Oh crap, it seems to late but I wanted to continue.23:36
jmlgmb, I guess being a mumak would be farewell to subtlety23:37
gmbjml: Maybe you could just switch nicks whenever you're having a bad day, so we know not to make matters worse.23:37
jml:)23:37
jml"omg, quick, fetch the poncy elven archer"23:38
mthaddonMT-: if you were running your own instance you could be admin and decide who gets private branches, yes23:38
gmbjml: Exactly. I'm trying to think who might qualify for that role...23:38
MT-mwhudson: cool - I think my company could really benefit from this - as well as contribute back to it23:38
jmlgmb, stub has the hair for it :)23:39
mthaddonmthaddon != mwhudson  :)23:39
gmbjml: Mind... boggles...23:39
thumper[IRunnableJob(job) for job in jobs]23:39
mwhudsonjml: thank you for that image23:40
mthaddonMT-: however, I suspect the overhead of running it in house might be less than the cost of a license to host proprietary branches on launchpad.net23:40
mthaddonMT-: er, I mean, might be more...23:41
MT-mwhudson: I was looking for requirements to run it. bug 40276223:41
ubot3Malone bug 402762 in launchpad-documentation "Docs don't explain system requirements" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40276223:41
mthaddonMT-: I don't know that you're really going to get much of an answer beyond "it depends" or "as much as you can throw at it"23:42
mwhudsonMT-: please learn the difference between mthaddon and mwhudson ! :)23:42
spmMT-: ??? many of the LP Dev's run it on their laptops. that sounds fine to me for a single user.23:42
MT-sorry...23:42
jmlspm, but we don't do anything _else_ while we're running it on our laptops.23:43
gmbI occasionally cook my thighs.23:43
ajmitchmwhudson: aren't all the launchpad developers just clones anyway?23:43
gmbajmitch: Only if the experiment went tragically wrong.23:43
MT-would it freak out under 2GB RAM? or could it chug along?23:43
* spm lol's at the continuing confusion between mwhudson and mthaddon. Michael - you need to grow a beard :-)23:44
MT-spm: I have one :(23:44
spmMT-: that was at mwhudson :-)23:44
jmlajmitch, close enough. we're all actually from the South Island of New Zealand, and thus spring from an extremely limited genetic pool :P23:44
wgrantspm: Or was it noodles?23:44
ajmitchjml: now that is worrying23:44
* mthaddon realises wgrant really does know everything...23:45
MT-I was wondering if I could play with it in a VM if I give the VM 1.5GB RAM and 20GB HD23:45
firefly2442Is there a way to browse the Launchpad sourcecode online instead of downloading the whole thing using Bazaar?23:45
mwhudsonspm: i'm more working on "not shaving" than "growing a beard"23:45
MT-wgrant: does your brain ever hurt?23:45
mthaddonMT-: you can definitely play with it on a regular laptop, but as for running it as a "production" service, that'd be a different story23:45
wgrantThe only problem I had on this new laptop is postgres' disk-eating ability.23:45
pkernI think launchpad FOSS doesn't set up keyserver.internal or the keyserver in a sane way at all.23:45
MT-my regular laptop has 2GB RAM23:46
MT-I know some LP servers have over 100GB RAM23:46
gmbfirefly2442: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/db-devel/files23:46
mwhudsonif you ahve a 32 bit install, 2 gigs should be plenty for playing around23:46
mthaddonMT-: that's similar to most LP devs I'm guessing, and they run a local LP instance for development/testing fine (the 2GB RAM, not the >100GB)23:46
firefly2442gmb: ty :)23:46
MarkusT1MT-: I'm running it on 2GHz with 1.5 GB. It's not really fast with this setup (I would not want to use it on a regular basis), but I'm still running the debug environment. Not sure if that slows down that much.23:47
jmlgood grief, 80 people in the channel.23:47
wgrantMy new T400 with 2GiB of RAM runs it fairly nicely.23:47
pkernMapping keyserver.internal to keyserver.ubuntu.com works.  Thankfully it then goes on to send mail to foo.bar@canonical.com (=23:47
wgrantpkern: You altered /etc/hosts to point keyserver.internal at keyserver.ubuntu.com23:48
MT-can one turn off certain features to save on performance?23:48
wgrant... 's IP address23:48
pkernwgrant: Yes.23:48
MT-I can't test yet - I'm installing Vista in a VM :(23:48
jmljono, hi23:50
maxbooi, why does rocketfuel-setup request that you disable GSSAPIAuthentication ?23:50
spmpkern: minor nitpick: launchpad FOSS is launchpad. we use the *same* code on the prod servers.23:51
mwhudsonmaxb: hm, that's probably not required any more23:52
mwhudsonmaxb: there was a bug that added 10s to the time to negotiate a connection with bazaar.launchpad.net23:52
* MT- quiets excited self. You all rock immensely.23:53
kiko;)23:53
MT-kiko: love you too :)23:53
ajmitchso can I safely ignore those errors like NoSuchRevision: KnitPackRepository('bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad/pygettextpo/trunk/.bzr/repository/') has no revision ('Arch-1:carlos.perello@canonical.com--2004%pygettextpo--devel--0--patch-5',) ?23:53
ajmitch(from running rocketfuel-get)23:53
wgrantajmitch: Are you using a fixed rocketfuel-get?23:54
ajmitchwgrant: no idea, I grabbed this yesterday & have re-run rocketfuel-get a couple of times23:54
ajmitchit appears to be up to date23:55
wgrantI don't believe I got those errors.23:56
ajmitchit wouldn't surprise me if there was a proxy causing issues for me23:57
mwhudsonajmitch: it's probably ignorable23:57
mwhudsonit's not like pygettextpo has changed in years23:57
ajmitchsuch as SHA1KnitCorrupt23:57
mwhudsonajmitch: if you have a proxy affecting your bzr+ssh connections, you have all kinds of problems23:57
ajmitchmwhudson: one would think so :)23:58
wgrantSo only launchpad is a hot_product at the moment?23:58
maxbaha, thanks. The expresses preference for apache worker mpm over prefork is also interesting23:58
mwhudsonwgrant: yes23:59

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