[00:00] I know :-) [00:00] was just writing a bash script to wget them all. [00:00] NoelJB: err [00:00] well, ok, you don't need the -dev and -dbg ones ;) [00:01] aptitude safe-upgade? [00:01] BUGabundo: they aren't yet in the repos. [00:01] I can wait then [00:02] update ! :P [00:02] dupondje: been doing it. still not :-) [00:02] ok, it's synced [00:02] BUGabundo, sorry missed your ping, was out staining my night stand, still need help? [00:03] billybigrigger: not anymore [00:03] sorry :( [00:03] billybigrigger: DON'T upgrade if you are on x64 [00:03] :P [00:03] roger [00:03] still broken ? [00:04] what are we waiting for? [00:04] gtk+2.0 (2.17.5-0ubuntu2)? [00:05] billybigrigger: exactly ;) [00:05] roger [00:05] still not in the repos for me. [00:05] indeed [00:05] :P [00:06] it downgraded again here :x [00:07] nobody has this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/391035) issue btw ? [00:07] Ubuntu bug 391035 in aptitude "aptitude stops displaying downloads" [Undecided,New] [00:07] dupondje: nope [00:07] really strange :s [00:07] have it really every every time :( [00:11] BUGabundo, what's the link to the +1 irc stats page you guys had posted the other day? [00:12] and did anyone ever find out why there are 2 volume icons? [00:12] billybigrigger: one is the old one, and the other comes from the new sound preferences [00:12] billybigrigger: its a temp status, next upload of gnome-media? will fix it [00:12] oooh ok [00:13] billybigrigger: http://ubuntustats.dnsalias.net/ubuntu+1.html [00:13] yep [00:14] what they said :) [00:14] heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy akgraner [00:14] still no cloak on irc?? you are laggin behind new Member :) [00:14] BUGabundo, hiiiiiii! :-) [00:14] roger [00:14] i'm a slacker!!! [00:14] doh! [00:14] * dupondje slaps the repo's [00:15] eheh dupondje [00:15] nothing here yet [00:15] akgraner: I you are running karmic and x64 DON'T UPGRADE [00:15] or you will lose all your icons [00:15] * akgraner goes to work on that..:-P [00:15] btw, is there somebody that would like to look @ http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332078 [00:15] Gnome bug 332078 in File Search Interface "Search button should be a toggle button" [Minor,New] [00:16] need to solve the last issue, but can't find a proper way [00:16] BUGabundo, ahh ok thanks! [00:18] btw, doesn't it wait for the package to get builded on ALL systems to sync with repo's ? [00:18] no [00:18] libgtk-bin and libgtk-common are not part of the upgrade? [00:20] not yet build maybe? [00:20] ia64 and armel are building [00:20] nothing in queue for amd64 [00:20] cause amd64 is build already [00:21] just hasn [00:21] 't hit repos [00:21] stupid enter key [00:21] stupid fat fingers :{ [00:22] BUGabundo: nope: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/2.17.5-0ubuntu1/+build/1126041 it wasn't there either. Something I must misunderstand about where those come from. [00:22] because they are here :-) [00:23] NoelJB: the -commmon packages are architecture independent so maybe they were built on some other machine [00:26] yofel. I was just noticing that. :-) libgtk2.0-0_2.17.5-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb versus libgtk2.0-bin_2.17.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb, so not in the x64 area. [00:26] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29305043/libgtk2.0-bin_2.17.5-0ubuntu2_all.deb [00:27] I really don't know how LP handles does so don't ask me :P [00:27] s/does/those [00:28] and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29305042/libgtk2.0-common_2.17.5-0ubuntu2_all.deb [00:28] so that's the whole set [00:28] given what was posted earlier [00:28] hm... why does syncing always take longest when you're waiting for it XD [00:29] The sheer perversity of nature. :-) [00:29] I'll be back after a restart ... guinea pig at play. [00:30] * BUGabundo waits a bit more [00:30] * billybigrigger watches BUGabundo waiting.... [00:30] * yofel is tired of waiting [00:31] stop............. [00:31] hammer time!!! [00:32] * BUGabundo pokes billybigrigger with a latex pants! [00:32] heh [00:32] wb NoelJB [00:32] OK, installing the ubuntu2 packages fixed gtk [00:32] hi DanaG [00:33] good [00:33] now we can all just wait a bit longer :P [00:33] NoelJB: a re-login would have been enough :P [00:33] So when they hit the repos, or for people who want to do this manually, all should be good. [00:33] yofel: I know, but for testing I prefer to force a clean start. [00:34] By the way, does anyone know why ... well, when the new login screen comes up, it shows a computer icon with the computer name, but if you click on the icon, the text switches to say "squeeze/sid". Something that hasn't been cleaned up from debian import? [00:35] DanaG: be aware of UPGRADES on x86 [00:35] with broken GTK [00:35] what the heck was I thinking, dug up an old server i forgot about and its formatted JFS :D [00:35] BUGabundo: x64 ;) [00:36] whats wrong with it? [00:37] nevermind. known as bug 396805 [00:37] Launchpad bug 396805 in gdm "gdm has an icon with the computer name. Clicking it shows the debian version." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/396805 [00:37] Sarvatt: some ppl do like kinky stuff [00:37] dupondje: doh [00:37] see how late its for me ? [00:37] whats wrong with gtk+? [00:37] Sarvatt: it was broken for a while today. [00:38] Sarvatt: bug 401938 [00:38] Launchpad bug 401938 in gtk+2.0 "gtk 2.17.5 has no png loader built on amd64 which breaks icons" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401938 [00:38] how so? sorry, dont have the chat log handy right now [00:38] ahh [00:38] BUGabundo, what time is it? [00:38] Sarvatt: we're all waiting for the fix to hit the repos XD [00:38] and it just won't sync... [00:39] 1am [00:39] but I got up at 7 [00:39] grab a cup of coffee :D [00:39] and had a very tireing day, and my eyes are killing me [00:39] I don't drink coffee [00:39] what does pkg-config --libs gdk-pixbuf-2.0 say for someone on x64 with a broken one? [00:39] oh right we didn't let Sarvatt in the loop [00:39] LOLOL [00:40] its what happens when one comes in late [00:40] Sarvatt, -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 FYI [00:40] been trying to get my darn efika up all day but none of my 11 keyboards work on it lol [00:40] $ pkg-config --libs gdk-pixbuf-2.0 [00:40] Package gdk-pixbuf-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. [00:40] Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-2.0.pc' [00:40] to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable [00:40] No package 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0' found [00:40] too tired to do pastebin :) [00:40] Sarvatt: acording to seb128 the png loader failed to build in the previous version - something with -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 not found [00:40] no worries [00:41] :O [00:41] was just curious, im sure its fixed :D [00:41] tsk tsk BUGabundo [00:41] haha [00:46] Sarvatt: it IS fixed, based on that I wrote a script to pull directly from the build site and install. working fine. [00:53] hmm long wait... [00:54] gone [00:54] tomorrow should be fixed [00:54] billybigrigger: waiting on the gtk update? [00:54] It's already been an hour since the build... [00:54] if you want, I'll post my install script. [00:55] NoelJB, i can wait :P [00:55] bye BUGabundo [00:55] just don't remember the last time it's taken this long for a package i've been waiting on to hit repos :P [00:55] BUGabundo, night [00:55] * BUGabundo /sbin/movearse sofa /dev/bed; ln -s eyeupperlid eyelowerlid [00:56] well, if anyone gets impatient: http://pastebin.com/d2cad08bf [00:57] I was lazy: fetched everything, but only installed what I actually use. [00:58] NoelJB: too lazy for 'dpkg -i *.deb'? :P [01:00] yofel: I could have edited down my wget list, but then someone else who needed more files would have to go find them. [01:01] ^^ [01:03] hallelujah, the repos got synced... [01:03] finally [01:04] its about time :P [01:07] now everyone has went to bed haha [01:26] anyone with problems on gnome on this last batch of updates? [01:27] hggdh: no icons - fixed [01:29] hggdh: earlier today, yes. *ubuntu1 broken, *ubuntu2 fixed. [01:30] in my case I have the panel flashing about once every .2 seconds (give or take .1 seconds) [01:32] so I am now under xfce, still missing some updates (and network-manager complains about some critical missing resources, and dies) [01:32] apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 [01:32] hggdh, says what? [01:32] checking [01:33] 2.17.5-0ubuntu1 [01:33] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [01:33] my friend :P [01:34] update hit repos only a few minutes ago so... [01:34] what does candidate say? [01:34] ubuntu2? [01:34] billybigrigger: will do as soon as the current apt run finishes [01:34] right now in the middle of one dist-upgrade [01:35] roger [01:40] yes, a new libgtk2.0-0 is being installed now [01:40] ah, I have the panel flashy sillyness too [01:40] good, I have company ;-) [01:41] hmm, my panels are just fine, oddly enough. [01:41] hmm. architecture specific? [01:42] Linux EliteBook 2.6.31-3-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 14 16:07:02 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:43] and compiz is dead, and network-manager, and about half of Gnome [01:47] well. 49 minutes to download all, at an amazing speed of 40KB/s [01:53] what's the bad one, and what's the good one? [01:53] ah, libgtk [01:53] ubuntu2 is good one? [01:53] DanaG: yes [01:53] the ubuntu1 one is missing the icon loader for png icons - breaks just about everything [01:53] oh, no wonder mine works fine. I'm on Version: 2.17.4-0ubuntu2 [01:54] note the '4' [01:54] and the bug is x64 only [01:54] Linux EliteBook 2.6.31-3-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 14 16:07:02 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:54] * DanaG is on 64-bit. [01:55] * hggdh also [02:00] latest updates do fix it [02:37] Hello, I am working on making a submission for Karmic's default wallpaper. I'm editing a Wiki page now, but I don't know how to upload my images. Do I have to an image-bucket? [02:53] mac9416: click "Attachments" at the top of the page, then upload it there. Then, within the page, you'd want to do something like {{attachment:example.png}} [02:53] Okay thats odd. mpd just started playing music. [02:53] Pici: that's the fanfare that accompanies all messages by me [02:53] :-D [02:54] I didn't have any music type applications open. I was reading something on firefox. [02:54] Twilight Zone? [02:56] Well, I was looking at a photo of a beach when this steel drum music started to play. It was eerie. [03:04] I'd file a bug, but I don't know how to diagnose something that just starts working on its own. [03:06] Well, fellas, I'm not going to be able to get it all done tonight, Thanks for your help, g'night. [03:12] hm, how can I force X to detect an external monitor at a higher resolution than it does now? [03:12] Hobbsee, that can depend on the monitor. New modern monitors should report them resolution. Older ones ... well, nothing to do but force it as far as I know. [03:13] NoelJB: i'm not sure if it's jsut the graphics card not handling the high resolution - it can be done in display properties when connected to another machine. Do you have information on forcing it? [03:14] By "force" I meant manual config of xorg.conf [03:14] It all works fine with a different graphics card? [03:15] well, after turning off mirror mode, yes [03:15] (different aspect ratios on the screen) [04:10] hello all I was wondering of someone could tell me if grub2 has been fixed in the karmic nightly builds? [04:15] Anyboby here? [04:17] !anybody [04:17] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [04:17] i.e. "is it fixed" -- depends on what the problem was. [04:18] Dana G when I installed the alpha 2 grub gave a boot error [04:19] As I did not read the notes first lol what else is new,I did not know grub was amiss just wondering so I can try again [04:20] thanks for your reply I'll download the nightly and give it a try. [04:20] later all [04:20] morning === Sarvatt_ is now known as Sarvatt [04:57] is nvidia broken? [04:59] just upgraded to latest kernel and nvidia-glx-180, X is saying the kernel module isn't loaded [05:04] did you reboot? [05:05] or reinstall the nvidia drivers.. [05:05] however that works [05:07] hmmm... should there be a kernel package without an associated restricted-modules package? [05:29] !info ghc6 [05:29] ghc6 (source: ghc6): GHC - the Glasgow Haskell Compilation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.10.3-3ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 30967 kB, installed size 144896 kB [05:29] lame [05:29] ooh it does work [05:55] *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/gksu: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x000000000144c200 *** === durt_ is now known as durt [05:56] yargh. [06:05] after some inactivity, possibly screen saver/power save/suspend/hibernate, Xorg goes to 98% cpu and keyboard/mouse are locked up. Old S3 virge using vesa server. any thoughts? [07:10] ok with me having video issues with the -3 kernel where is the best place to find docs on updating my system to a newer kernel? [07:35] can someone give me a link to a kernel update for this version of ubuntu please.id like to try and fix my video. [07:38] ah never mind i havent found any newer then the one i have anyways. [07:43] ok next question anyone know when the next kernel release is scheduled? [08:13] oldude67, try in a few days [08:24] billybigrigger, ty [10:26] is there like a troubleshooting page for 9.10... I am having some serious problems >.> [10:37] wraund: to use the beta products you should have a grasp of at least basic troubleshooting [10:38] wraund: what's the problem ? [10:49] hello, tha last update has broke my gnome session [10:49] anyone else? [10:49] I can't loggin [10:51] torkiano: be more specific, I may have had the same problem.. [10:58] wraund, the screen flickers all the time [11:03] wraund, I have installed the new GDM [11:03] maybe that is the problem [12:12] Hello. How do I fix grub? I don't have windows entry on it after installing. It started allways Kubuntu [12:13] I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 alpha 2 [12:47] !grub2 [12:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about grub2 [12:47] !grub [12:47] GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [12:47] mattik: see the links above [12:47] mattik: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Dual-booting [12:48] gnomefreak: ubottu doesn't know anything about grub2 yet :/ [12:48] Thank you! gnomefreak you are still here. It's a over year when I used Kubuntu [12:48] yofel_: ill fix it when i get time [12:48] thx :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:50] My freenode password have disappeared and I have asked it so many times that I try to be now without identify [12:51] !grub2 is GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [12:51] I'll remember that, gnomefreak [12:51] yofel: fixed [12:51] !grub2 [12:51] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [12:51] yay :D [12:53] thank you friends :) [12:58] it worked :) thank you [12:59] how about blocked updates? Is it better to wait or force update it? [13:00] them [13:11] If y'all don't mind me recycling my question, I'll copy and paste it from #ubuntu :-) [13:11] "I am still trying to understand how to add my images to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds/Default I have uploaded the images, I just don't know how to add them to the page." [13:11] mattik: you can use aptitude to see what's holding them back, but forcing them is usually a bad idea [13:12] yofel: thank you :) [13:14] mattik: click on 'attachments' in the top bar, upload your image, go back to the wiki site, click edit, and add your pic like everybody else (you'll see how they added it when you edit the page) [13:14] mac9416: ^^ [13:15] mattik: sry, got the wrong one ^^ [13:15] np [13:15] yofel, OK, Lemme find the edit button. Haven't seen it yet [13:16] edit got it :-P [13:16] Well, I feel dumb. Thanks, yofel. === eagles051387 is now known as eagles0513875 [13:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/391035 <- can somebody test, but with terminal window MAXIMIZED ! :) [13:48] Ubuntu bug 391035 in aptitude "aptitude stops displaying downloads" [Undecided,New] [13:49] everythings normal here [13:51] with gnome-terminal maximized ? [13:55] yes, maximized [13:56] and the same with full screen [13:56] strange :s [13:57] what internet speed do you have? [13:57] Reading package lists... Done 55%] 131kB/s 4s [14:06] !paste [14:06] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [14:06] dupondje http://paste.ubuntu.com/223544/ [14:08] !pastebinit [14:08] pastebinit is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin . Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output. Simple usage: command-name | pastebinit [14:08] cool [14:08] Bmw1000c: it doesn't matter the internet speed [14:08] have it with 100kb & 1000kb [14:08] :( [14:08] oh, ok [14:13] hmm just noticed that notification popup is very small now [14:15] !bot [14:15] Qt: 4.5.2 [14:15] KDE: 4.2.96 (KDE 4.2.96 (KDE 4.3 RC2)) [14:15] kde4-config: 1.0 [14:20] Hi! I'm #ubuntu+1's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [14:25] Hi there, since yesterday I lost some icons, the new wave theme doesn't show borders for buttons (or any other control), anyone with the issue ? [14:27] Andphe: u installed updated today also ? [14:28] amd64 system ? [14:28] Andphe: what version of libgtk2.0-0 do you have? [14:28] Linux andphe-desktop 2.6.31-3-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 14 16:07:02 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [14:29] Andphe: if you have libgtk2.0-0 version 2.17.5-0ubuntu1 then please update, it's broken [14:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/223553/ [14:29] yep upgrade it [14:30] ok [14:31] I don't see any update available [14:31] wich repo do you use ? [14:32] hm, if you have -ubuntu2 then it should work [14:32] did you re-login after the upgrade ? [14:32] well, that was yesterday, I shutdown it [14:32] but I've not restarted since today updates [14:33] I'll try [14:40] just had a xorg-server update for intel, would that mean my intel video might work with the -3 kernel now? [14:41] ok, well reboot and find out be back in a sec. lol [14:42] it worked [14:42] sorry waste your time [14:43] eheh Andphe :) [14:44] Andphe: np ;) [14:45] I promise restart after any update :P [14:51] oh gee i found a bug but it's hard to reproduce [14:52] lock screen [14:52] leave a blank message, click Save and dont move the mouse [14:52] and it show's the desktop [14:53] oh yeah [14:55] i tried to upgrade ubuntu to 9.10 but I got this bug 332350, I restarted to get a black screen, now I am using my usb stick. can you help me to figure what is the problem ? [14:55] Launchpad bug 332350 in apport "package_hook crashed with IOError in write()" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332350 [14:57] should I make a fresh install instead ? [15:01] Hey all [15:02] hello BluesKaj [15:03] hi Bmw1000c [15:03] oh :( it's a known bug [15:03] bug 334441 [15:03] Launchpad bug 334441 in gnome-screensaver "[jaunty] leave a message briefly shows desktop" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/334441 [15:05] Bmw1000c: to you have ccsm installed? I've got an idea [15:05] hi BluesKaj [15:06] no i dont [15:06] hi yofel [15:07] Bmw1000c: install it then go to System->Preferences->CompizConfig Settings Manager [15:07] yes [15:08] then go to General Options [15:08] and under General disable 'Undirect Fullscreen Windows' [15:09] and try again [15:09] can anyone help me to recover my system ? [15:09] unredirect :P [15:09] ok, disabled [15:10] ah ups ^^ [15:10] and i can reproduce it [15:10] hm, ok, then that wasn't the problem [15:10] :( do you have the same problem? [15:10] cause I can't reproduce it here [15:11] recover system is not enough info to help you [15:11] no, but when using fullscreen firefox or vlc I sometimes saw the desktop background with that option enabled [15:11] ok new update for the xorg-intel update did not help with the intel video issues...arrrg..oh well thats the way the cookie crumbles i guess...:( [15:12] oh, i see [15:12] anyway can i add my cdrom to fstab to get k3b or brasero to see it or will that not help? [15:12] oldude67: it depedns on the issues not just will it fix the issues [15:13] gnomefreak, for which problem are you referring too? [15:13] oldude67: not sure you were the one referring to a problem [15:13] * gnomefreak has no intel or problem [15:13] ehe [15:13] well bzr issues but thats not a package problem [15:13] ha it worked [15:14] gnomefreak, well my intel 915 isnt playing well with the -3 kernel [15:14] and k3b and brasero isnt seeing my cd or dvd burners..so [15:15] oldude67, nautilus doesn't see the cdrom with media cd or dvd in it ? [15:15] oldude67: they are not related [15:15] gnomefreak, i know that...im not that blond [15:16] BluesKaj, let me check i know sysinfo sees them [15:18] as i recall there are a few (not sure how many) bugs on intel drivers. i didnt look at changelog from karmic-changes list so i dont know what fixes were done [15:23] BluesKaj, has an error with it saying it is write protected [15:25] http://pastebin.com/mcc6a59f [15:25] oldude67, the media has an error because it prolly is write protected ..if you placed a commercially produced cd or dvd in the drive [15:26] BluesKaj, it has a blank cd in it [15:27] ok, does youfstab have a /dev/ sr0 listed ? it's prolly at the bottom [15:29] oldude67, something like this : dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [15:30] oldude67: if you have a flickering problem that needs a kernel upgrade and there probably wont be a kernel upgrade for about a week because of alpha 3 getting released (plus the fixes arent in linus' tree yet so they might not even make it to rc4).. what you can do for now is just add i915.modeset=0 to grub after the quiet splash part [15:30] anyone having problems with gpg and ssh agents just dying an hour or so after boot? [15:32] that would help if there was a grub2 menu.lst :) [15:32] its called /etc/default/grub [15:32] then sudo update-grub2 [15:32] i havent gone playing in it yet [15:32] Sarvatt: ah [15:33] !grub2 | gnomefreak [15:33] gnomefreak: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [15:33] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="whatever whatever2 whatever3" ya add it in there [15:33] :P [15:33] yofel: ;) [15:33] /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [15:33] /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 [15:33] i didnt say i read it i just added it [15:34] * gnomefreak been extreamly busy so far maybe it will calm down by lunch so i can get out of house [15:34] * gnomefreak gone for a while. my ;ag is going to be real bad in a minute [15:34] Grub2 does not put in the menu list other OS than Linux in karmic for me [15:35] EagleScreen: see the wiki page section dual-booting [15:35] shouldnt add that unless ya need it, i think oldude67 had a problem with flickering thats related the fifo watermarking code used in KMS starting in 2.6.31-rc3 (alot of people are having that problem) [15:35]