[00:44] <asac> fta: i dont think there is a page. there might be specs
[00:44]  * asac  tries to remember when gstreamer feature was developed
[00:45] <asac> otherwise there is the gstreamer api if that helps
[00:46] <BUGabundo> asac LIVESSSSSSSSSSS
[00:47] <asac> what does that mean? ;)
[00:50] <BUGabundo> means I should have been in bed 1h ago :)
[00:50] <BUGabundo> and that we missed you!
[00:51] <BUGabundo> don't go away for a weekend and not let us know
[00:51]  * BUGabundo hugs asac
[00:51] <BUGabundo> again
[00:51] <BUGabundo> I should have been in bed 1h ago :)
[00:52] <fta> asac, this was about the codecs in chromium.. how could we do to be on par with chrome that will ship h264, mp3 and aac.
[00:52] <fta> knowing that youtube uses h264, we have to do something
[00:55]  * BUGabundo /sbin/movearse sofa /dev/bed; ln -s eyeupperlid eyelowerlid
[00:56] <asac> BUGabundo: haha. better go away a weekend than getting burned out completely ;)
[00:56] <asac> fta: i think gstreamer would still work more or less automatically
[00:57] <asac> fta: but most likely they want to use ffmpeg which probably lacks a app-install backend still (i think someone said that ffmpeg supports a similar on-demand mechanism now)
[00:58] <fta> asac, they 1st need to merge the -mt branch in, it's intrusive
[00:58] <asac> why do they mt if they run each window/plugin in a separate process anyway?
[00:59] <asac> i would expect them to be the last application that need that
[00:59] <fta> i think the video rendered is shared
[01:00] <asac> yeah, but i find that odd somehow
[01:01] <asac> anyway. i am not sure how to put -mt branch in. maybe try to convince debian maintainer to do that ;)
[01:01] <asac> also understanding why upstream doesnt put that in would help
[01:01] <asac> e.g. ffmpeg upstream
[01:01] <asac> they probably have concerns
[01:04] <asac> anyway. i have to hunt myself to bed now ;). 'night
[01:05] <fta> i've been told that ffmpeg-mt is not a fork, it was a GSoC project, and will be eventually merged into ffmpeg
[01:06] <fta> but it's big, intrusive, and that takes time to review
[01:10] <reed> asac: how do I get ubuntu moblin remix?
[01:16] <reed> jcastro: ping
[02:28] <jcastro> reed, pong
[02:28] <reed> jcastro: how do I get Ubuntu Moblin Remix? Mozilla's CEO would like to try it.
[04:15] <micahg> ping reed
[05:32] <e-jat> reed: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/
[05:35] <reed> micahg: pong
[05:35] <reed> e-jat: ah, thanks
[05:35] <reed> oh
[05:35] <reed> that's netbook
[05:35] <reed> I want the moblin
[05:35] <reed> ubuntu moblin remix
[05:36] <micahg> hi, is this report valid again TB 2.0.0.22? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2009-2535
[05:36] <e-jat> reed: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/releases/8.04.1/ <-- this ?
[05:37] <reed> micahg: let me look
[05:38] <reed> e-jat: hmm
[05:38] <reed> no, there's supposedly one for 9.04
[05:40] <micahg> reed: http://moblin.org/documentation/test-drive-moblin is this it?
[05:42] <e-jat> reed: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-moblin-remix | is it still in blueprint or already release for tester
[05:45] <reed> e-jat: yeah
[05:45] <reed> that looks like it
[06:01] <micahg> reed: did you get a chance to look at that?
[06:03] <reed> micahg: let me look at that CVE
[06:03] <micahg> ok
[06:03] <micahg> leave a message here
[06:03] <micahg> I'll check back
[06:03] <micahg> I'm heading home now
[06:03] <micahg> thanks reed
[06:03] <reed> k
[09:17] <asac> reed: did you find mobling remix yet?
[09:21] <reed> asac: no
[09:21] <reed> asac: not the latest one
[09:21] <reed> with moblin 2
[09:36] <asac> reed: unrelated, but still: http://identi.ca/notice/6764568 ;)
[09:40] <reed> woo, finally
[10:33] <gnomefreak> asac: now that Daneil is gone who is our main sound guy? at least i think hes gone
[10:35]  * gnomefreak meeds an assistant
[10:36] <asac> gnomefreak: he is gone?
[10:36] <asac> he is still in this channel ;)
[10:37] <gnomefreak> he is?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ah yes i missed him the first time
[10:38] <gnomefreak>  /me made an oops. i cant have coffee yet so my bain will function badly
[10:39] <asac> hheh
[10:40] <gnomefreak> asac: look at diff on bug 365965 and let me know if its good :) i guess it should go into at least our daily PPA
[10:40] <gnomefreak> s/bain/brain
[10:40] <gnomefreak> im making sure it attached fine
[10:41] <gnomefreak> asac: ok thats not hte bug
[10:41] <asac> gnomefreak: thtas obviously right. but suggesting a merge would be better as our branch has different changelog etc ;)
[10:41] <gnomefreak> asac: i made one on a nother bug but why not this one
[10:42] <gnomefreak> asac: i havent pushed to a branch yet but can oince i find the bug
[10:42] <gnomefreak> ah it is
[10:44] <gnomefreak> ok i see he patched ubufox and i patched FF-3.0
[10:46] <gnomefreak> asac: ill push to a branch today. ok what should i use for version in changelog?
[10:52] <reed> asac: we'll be moving to Bugzilla 3.4 in the next few months
[10:53] <reed> once that's done, launchpad integration should be easy
[10:53] <reed> :)
[10:55] <asac> good ;)
[10:55] <gnomefreak> yay i fixed icon :) now to get it to build in LP
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ah i used the version in repos not daily
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ok going to use mozilla-teams lp:firefox branch instead of from repos
[11:19] <reed> asac: you're ready for the Firefox release today?
[11:22] <asac> reed: i think so ... was there a build2? we have build1 staged
[11:22] <reed> um
[11:22]  * reed looks
[11:22] <asac> 3.0.12+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
[11:23] <asac> i lost track in the mids of this 3.5 firedrill
[11:23] <asac> too many mails ;)
[11:24] <reed> yeah, build1 is right
[11:24] <reed> I think
[11:24]  * asac too ;)
[11:25] <asac> its just that we had the build in our staging area for felt-ages
[11:25] <asac> but that probabl was the 3.5 push that came in between
[11:25] <reed> yeah
[11:25] <reed> ok, cool
[11:25] <reed> just making sure you're ready
[11:26] <asac> thx
[11:26] <asac> we are basically sitting and waiting.
[11:54] <gnomefreak> ok pushing 2 branches so im going to walk away while this happens, for some reason my connection speed drop alot since wed. of last week
[11:58] <asac> sorry for that. thanks
[12:09] <gnomefreak> asac: np i have to fix sunbird branches anyway
[12:34] <gnomefreak> yay sunbird is finally ready for push to repos :)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> pushing firefox branch now
[12:34] <asac> gnomefreak: firefox? for ubufox? yeah
[12:39] <gnomefreak> firefox but its failing to push stalling at 43%
[12:42] <gnomefreak> im asking in #bzr if ther eis another way to push it maybe not stall that way
[12:45] <gnomefreak> asac: ubufox has a patch on that same bug it seems. it looks like 3.5 was added to ubufox deps. cant recall persons name for that patch. maybe i should have mixed his changes and gave him credit for them so the branch is updated all together. let me know if i should do that
[12:46] <gnomefreak> no i cant nevermind
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i added bug 401165 fix to sunbird and pushed so now it is done just need to test build
[12:55] <asac> reed: why doesnt bugzilla update the Component option box entries when i change the product?
[12:55] <asac> reed: is there a trick or do i need to do two steps?
[13:50] <gnomefreak> fta2: seems o3d doesnt work in firefox-3.5 checking chromium now but with firefox it tells me the plugin isnt installed
[13:52] <gnomefreak> fta2: chromium tells me This page requires the O3D plugin to be installed also
[13:52] <gnomefreak> hold that thought that was odd
[13:55] <gnomefreak> nope same error. i have a nvidia 6200 so it should be supported
[13:58] <gnomefreak> asac: having issues with bzr pushing firefox but sunbird pushed fine :(
[14:00] <Ddorda> hello. i'm trying to install the Daily build PPA, can you help me?
[14:02] <gnomefreak> asking in #lp now bzr sent me there
[14:02] <gnomefreak> Ddorda: what is the issue?
[14:03] <gnomefreak> those type of questions scare me for user
[14:03] <Ddorda> trying to use the PPA of the daily build of firefox
[14:03] <gnomefreak> Ddorda: that is not the problem you are having i need details on what you are trying to do and what happens
[14:03] <Ddorda> i've added it to the sources list and added the authentication
[14:03] <Ddorda> but got no idea how to install it
[14:03] <gnomefreak> Ddorda: run sudo apt-get update
[14:04] <Ddorda> one sec
[14:05] <gnomefreak> Ddorda: than if you have 3.5 it will upgrade if not sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 or whatever package you are looking for. be extreamly careful with daily builds they can and will break, make sure you know this before using it
[14:05] <gnomefreak> if xulrunner breaks you will have issues outside of firefox thunderbird
[14:05] <Ddorda> okay, thanks :D
[14:05] <gnomefreak> new sunbird pushed to PPA to test
[14:06] <asac> also install firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[14:06] <asac> if you want trunk install firefox-3.6 + -gnome-support instead
[14:06] <Ddorda> what is that for?
[14:06] <Ddorda> okay
[14:06] <Ddorda> thanks a lot you too
[14:06] <Ddorda> two*
[14:07]  * gnomefreak getting even more scared
[14:07] <gnomefreak> you dont know to run update after adding PPA to sources.list you shouldnt really run daily builds
[14:08] <gnomefreak> yes i know hes gone. can we add a warning to daily build PPA page
[14:08] <asac> heh
[14:08] <asac> i think there is a warning ;)
[14:09] <asac> dailies are ok for anyone who knows that there are risks
[14:09] <asac> no particular skills required imo
[14:09] <gnomefreak> maybe warning if you cant run update you need not use this repo :)
[14:09] <asac> except maybe logging into irc and joining this channel
[14:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[14:10] <gnomefreak> asac: btw it looks like LP is having issues (not sure why only one branch) but its dying with connection refused after it starts pushing
[14:10] <asac> gnomefreak: yes, that could be the case
[14:11] <gnomefreak> ok 64bit built. sunbird is ready. did you want me to fix bug 401165 in tbird-2
[14:11] <gnomefreak> asked in #lp but didnt get answer but looks like im not only one, if same issue
[14:12] <gnomefreak> hm lp is screwed up it said 64bit finished but refresh and its still there
[14:18] <gnomefreak> ok good lpis an d 386 built so sunbird _is_ fixed using gcc-4.4 rather than 4.3 :)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> ah it 555 not 777 :)
[14:26] <gnomefreak> this looks like a PPA issue not package issue
[14:26] <gnomefreak> checking whether the C compiler (gcc-4.2  -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions) works... no
[14:26] <gnomefreak> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. want to fix armel
[14:27] <asac> did you get all the patches?
[14:27] <gnomefreak> asac: for armel in sunbird yes
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: where do you get the compiler problem?
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: which patches did you pick?
[14:27] <asac> should be 3 or 4
[14:27] <gnomefreak> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29326564/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.lightning-sunbird_0.9%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu6~jjv3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:28] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[14:28] <gnomefreak> asac: per bug he told me either no version or 4.4 for karmic
[14:29] <asac> gnomefreak: gcc-4.2
[14:29] <gnomefreak> i had 4.3 and it failed as well with same error. only thing i did other than gcc fix is remove the set -e section for icons (it built jaunty fine. from jaunty to karmic changes was the gCC build-dep
[14:29] <asac> gnomefreak: you didnt fix debian/rules as it seems
[14:29] <gnomefreak> ah
[14:29] <gnomefreak> ok looking
[14:29] <asac> just dont set CC and CXX to anything ... it will then take the default
[14:30] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:31] <eagles0513875> hows karmic looking my desktop upstairs is jaunty atm
[14:31] <gnomefreak> asac: so CC=gcc-4.4 should be CC=gcc
[14:31] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: i havent done updates since friday so i couldnt tell you but most is good here
[14:31] <asac> gnomefreak: just uncomment that line
[14:31] <gnomefreak> k
[14:31] <asac> comment i mean
[14:31] <eagles0513875> probably upgrade :)
[14:31] <asac> same for CXX=
[14:32] <asac> gnomefreak: and drop any special build depends on gcc
[14:32] <eagles0513875> if i can ssh onto from my mac lol
[14:32] <gnomefreak> asac: got it
[14:40] <fta2> asac, do you know what is the difference between %u and %U in .desktop files?
[14:41] <asac> fta2: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html
[14:41] <asac> %u A single URL. Local files may either be passed as file: URLs or as file path.
[14:41] <asac> %U A list of URLs. Each URL is passed as a separate argument to the executable program. Local files may either be passed as file: URLs or as file path.
[14:42] <asac> fta2: ^^
[14:46] <gnomefreak> trying ff-3.5 branch one more time for now
[14:57] <eagles0513875> you guys think i should upgrade
[14:57] <asac> i dont know your setup etc.
[14:57] <asac> i would say dont upgrade remotely
[14:57] <asac> if you want to be safe
[14:57] <eagles0513875> whats wrong with doing that i would be upgrading to karmic over the net
[14:57] <asac> eagles0513875: if you use NM you might loose net in the middle of the upgrade
[14:58] <asac> you would need to use update-manager -d
[14:58] <asac> but even then there might be a hickup or something else
[14:58] <asac> if the machine is not within reach you might risk of not being able to fix any distruoption
[14:58] <eagles0513875> ya i can do that from upstairs
[14:58] <asac> but thats your own estimate
[14:58] <fta2> asac, ok so %u is enough for a browse
[14:58] <fta2> r
[14:58] <asac> so decide on your own
[14:58] <asac> fta2: well, if you want to open multple urls at one time maybe not
[14:59] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[14:59] <fta2> asac, we use %u for firefox
[15:01] <eagles0513875> brb guys gonna upgrade
[15:02] <gnomefreak> why does this keep stalling out damnit
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> gnomefreak: this?
[15:05] <gnomefreak> [###############\    ] Copying content texts:Copied record 1211/1295
[15:05] <Paddy_NI> heh
[15:05] <Paddy_NI> almost there too
[15:06] <gnomefreak> wgrant says there is slashdotting going on right now maybe thats why
[15:08] <asac> fta2: true. not sure what happens if we try %U
[15:08] <gnomefreak> asac: as for tbird-2 patches they are all  there and also all there in sunbird. ill work  on tbird-2 fix for that bug in a bit. just  need to see if ff will push
[15:09] <gnomefreak> sorry so late been pulling my hair out
[15:14] <gnomefreak> yay it worked :)
[15:14] <gnomefreak> ok firefox-3.5 fix and sunbird are done
[15:14] <eagles0513875> upgrading :)
[15:20] <gnomefreak> asac: proposed merge into MT firefox-3.5 branch
[15:24] <asac> thx
[15:28] <fta2> gnomefreak, changelog is wrong, previous entry was UNRELEASED, no need for a new version
[15:29] <gnomefreak> fta2: changelog for what?
[15:29] <asac> gnomefreak: ffox 35 merge request most likely
[15:30] <gnomefreak> 3.5 is released why wouldnt we use a target?
[15:31] <gnomefreak> give me a few hours and ill change it if need be
[15:34] <gnomefreak> ill be back just testing build
[15:49] <gnomefreak> i lied sunbird isnt fixed yet but i have a few things to try
[15:55] <gnomefreak> ok got past the configure but failed on build oh damn please tell me i didnt over look that
[15:59] <gnomefreak> ok that should fix sunbird but will let you know tomorrow or way later today
[16:42] <asac> !time
[16:50] <fta2> lol
[16:51] <fta2> gnomefreak, oh, and don't close changelog, keep it open with UNRELEASED, we always close it in a dedicated commit
[16:51] <fta2> asac, did you do something with v8 since last time?
[16:58] <asac> fta2: the patch for hidden was the last i did
[16:58] <asac> fta2: i wanted to track ABI/API afterwards to see how bad it breaks likage; at best using chromium ;)
[16:59] <asac> fta2: i think i failed to submit it because i couldnt find any hint about git cl and where to get it ;)
[17:01] <fta2> gcl is in depot_tools
[17:02] <asac> fta2: maybe we should package that to get things started ;)
[17:02] <asac> anyway, will check it out next slot
[17:53] <asac> fta: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001 uploaded
[18:31] <fta> load of >20, hm, all my shells are dead
[18:31] <fta> i guess i have to reboot, somehow
[18:31] <fta> no shell, no mouse, gasp
[18:42] <asac> welcome back netsplitters ;)
[18:57] <micahg> asac: was this fixed in TB2 already? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2009-2535
[18:59] <asac> micahg: yes if you look in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460713 you see its  verified1.8.1.19, verified1.9.0.5
[19:00] <asac> e.g. ffox 3.0.5 and tbird 2.0.0.19+
[19:00] <micahg> ok, I didn't know if TB2 and FF2 were on the same gecko branch
[19:00] <asac> micahg: yes, they are both from 1.8.1
[19:01] <micahg> ok, cool
[19:01] <micahg> I'll ignore then
[19:02] <asac> micahg: yeah. close it if its an ubuntu bug
[19:02] <micahg> nope, I was gonna open one if we were affected
[19:04] <micahg> asac: bug 195698 just had upstream released in trunk, xilrunner-1.9 is triaged, should I mark xulrunner-1.9 won't fix and open a xulrunner-1.9.1 task?
[19:05] <asac> micahg: yes, we have to check whether we want to ask for a cherry pick for 1.9.1
[19:10] <asac> or that
[19:10] <micahg> It's already invalid
[19:10] <asac> or add firefox-3.5 and wontfix firefox
[19:10] <micahg> but I can change the package
[19:10] <asac> ok
[19:10] <micahg> that's what I'm wondering
[19:10] <asac> keep it that way and if you want add it to firefox-3.5
[19:10] <micahg> so we don't have too many tasks
[19:10] <micahg> ok, O
[19:11] <micahg> i'll just add another one
[19:11] <asac> i think its up to the triager
[19:11] <micahg> oh
[19:11] <asac> i wouldnt necessarily reassign if we already have two tasks
[19:11] <micahg> There are 3 right now, FF, FF3, and xul1.9
[19:11] <asac> for me reassigning if there is one task makes sense, but this just documents the state for the various branches in one place
[19:11] <micahg> do we need to document ff2 anymore?
[19:12] <fta>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[19:12] <fta>  3668 root      20   0 2031m 1.7g 2376 R   10 88.6   5:57.27 bootchart
[19:12] <asac> micahg: not sure. i just think that invalid is an end-state and reusing tasks sounds wrong ;)
[19:12] <micahg> ok
[19:12] <asac> xulrunner-1.9 we could argue could be reused
[19:13] <micahg> just wanted to check the policy with you
[19:13] <asac> but keeping it open would catch duplicates if someone else thinks again its a xulrunner-1.9 task
[19:13] <micahg> you filed it under xulrunner :)
[19:13] <asac> micahg: also i think having wont fix bugs in firefox is good because there are still a few people filing 3.0 bugs against firefox ... and i doubt this will change
[19:13] <micahg> ok, I usually try to move them
[19:13] <micahg> but ok
[19:14] <micahg> I'll file against ff3.5 to catch dupes
[19:14] <asac> micahg: yeah. i acutally think that this is one of the bugs that stopped me doing that
[19:14] <micahg> and it's marked maybe 1.9.1
[19:14] <asac> micahg: right. i think more tasks are better; we wont get more than one mail i hope
[19:14] <asac> and it might catch dupes
[19:14] <micahg> nah, just an intial mail saying the task is open
[19:16] <micahg> I changed ff3.0 to won't fix
[19:42] <fta> X just crashed, wtf?
[19:52] <asac> hmm. reproducible?
[19:53] <asac> or just a one timer?
[19:53] <fta> bug 343528
[19:54] <asac> no bot
[19:54] <fta> hm
[19:54] <fta> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/343528
[19:55] <fta> slow bot, bad bot
[19:57] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17363
[19:57] <fta> hmm
[19:58] <asac> how does chrome do proxy config?
[19:58] <asac> through gconf or env?
[19:58] <asac> i think env should work on kubuntu at least
[19:58] <asac> most likely they dont honour system settings at all ;)
[20:23] <eagles0513875> asac: chrome going to be in karmic
[20:24] <asac> chrome != chromium
[20:24] <asac> chrome is non-free
[20:25] <asac> fta: about http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17363 ... does it work on gnome at least?
[20:26] <fta> eagles0513875: was that a question or a fact?
[20:26] <eagles0513875> question
[20:26] <eagles0513875> sry need to punctuate my sentences i know
[20:26] <gnomefreak> builders are backed up by the looks of it
[20:27] <gnomefreak> pushed it 2 hours ago and its starts building in ~1hour
[20:27] <gnomefreak> fta: did you reject the merge for me to fix it?
[20:28] <fta> gnomefreak, no, i just read the email
[20:28] <asac> gnomefreak: you can improve it and push --overwrite
[20:28] <asac> that will resubmit it
[20:28] <asac> or you could do a new one
[20:28] <asac> which is probably cleaner
[20:29] <asac> i will reject it now
[20:29] <gnomefreak> asac: i can fix it thats no problem. i need to use a target for PPA thats why i always have them there :)
[20:29] <gnomefreak> asac: i could have rejected it. i just dont like apporing my own merge requests
[20:30] <asac> hehe
[20:31] <asac> ok done
[20:31] <gnomefreak> ok its rejected
[20:31] <gnomefreak> lol
[20:31] <asac> selecting resubmit is odd
[20:31] <asac> not sure what that means
[20:31] <asac> so i didnt do that
[20:31] <gnomefreak> i rejected it too just now
[20:31] <asac> yeah
[20:31] <gnomefreak> no need for resubmit i just propose it again
[20:31] <asac> yes
[20:32] <gnomefreak> asac: i should have tbird2 done tomorrow. i think i fixed all the problems
[20:32] <asac> still there is a status "Resubmit" if you edit a merge proposal
[20:32] <asac> thats odd
[20:32] <asac> if you try it ;)
[20:32] <asac> i read it three times and couldnt really understand what it does
[20:32] <fta> asac, fix it, lp is open source now
[20:32] <fta> lol
[20:32] <asac> and _who_ is supposed to run it
[20:32] <asac> haha
[20:32] <asac> package dailies ;)
[20:33] <asac> though i guess that would be hardly of much use ;)
[20:33]  * gnomefreak should know better than to ask questions when the answer is going to confuse me more
[20:34] <asac> gnomefreak: which question?
[20:36] <gnomefreak> i asked "what do you mean" :( and he confused me even more
[20:36] <gnomefreak> micahg: you around i am confused
[20:37] <gnomefreak> asac: it was about the bug that the merge request was for. but he said i was supposed to move it to another bug but the other bug was QT related
[20:38]  * gnomefreak not even going to try to port ubufox for QT
[20:38] <micahg> hi gnomefreak
[20:38] <micahg> no
[20:38] <micahg> that's not what I said...
[20:38] <gnomefreak> micahg: hi :)
[20:38] <gnomefreak> thats what i read
[20:38] <micahg> sorry
[20:38] <micahg> must ahve been tired
[20:38] <gnomefreak> or did you mean the other patch should have gone there
[20:38] <micahg> what you did for that bug was right
[20:39] <fta> asac, i wonder if anyone will do anything with the lp sources
[20:39] <gnomefreak> other patch == not mine
[20:39] <micahg> there was a secondary issue in that bug about ubufox pulling in apturl and the suggestion about making a KDE version of apturl that ubufox could rely on
[20:39] <gnomefreak> asac: wasnt 3.0.12 released (ff)
[20:39] <micahg> but it was already in another bug
[20:40] <gnomefreak> micahg: ah ok
[20:40] <micahg> and then there was what asac already did which is update ubufox for ff3.5 which was also another bug
[20:40] <gnomefreak> micahg: i was going to look at that as well but QT libs and me dont mix well
[20:40] <micahg> yeah, that's ok
[20:40] <micahg> does the mozillateam maintain apturl?
[20:41] <gnomefreak> maybe we should talk with riddel about doing QT version. however i dont know if apturl needs to get looked at by mvo
[20:41] <gnomefreak> micahg: mvo as i recall
[20:41] <micahg> ok
[20:41] <gnomefreak> micahg: as has worked on it before
[20:41] <gnomefreak> 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001
[20:42] <gnomefreak> if 12 == released why push 11
[20:43] <asac> fta: thats why launchpad wasnt open-sourced initially
[20:43] <asac> fta: it wsa thought that likelyhood of someone actually contributing would be small
[20:43] <asac> fta: and hence you only get risk by opening it up early
[20:45] <asac> gnomefreak: the me001 upload was a quick shot to get something on CD
[20:45] <asac> gnomefreak: .12 isnt out yet and we couldnt wait any longer
[20:45] <fta> asac, the installer is really messing with the system, and i'm not even sure all the pieces are included. it's far from clear by reading the initial announcement
[20:45] <asac> we already are in freeze since this morning iirc
[20:45] <gnomefreak> asac: ah because of main freeze
[20:45] <gnomefreak> i forgot about that email
[20:45] <asac> fta: which installer?
[20:45] <fta> asac, rocketfuel-setup
[20:45] <asac> fta: ah ... the launchpad installer ... yeah
[20:46] <asac> note: i have no clue about anything of this, but it sounds like it was really made for internal use, where the user is a dedicated launchpad developer
[20:46] <asac> fta: i thought that fule setup thing is probably just the most high level approach that exist to get a running system
[20:47] <asac> most likely you can do it with individual pieces
[20:47] <fta> that part is clear when you read the sources ;)
[20:47] <asac> just not with a single command ;)
[20:48] <asac> fta: did you see if there is anything useful for dailies etc in that snapshot yet?
[20:48] <fta> i hope some debian fanatics package that cleanly
[20:48] <gnomefreak> this is always a bad idea. bug 307377
[20:48] <asac> tahts wontfix, right
[20:48] <gnomefreak> oh and 3.0 wont get fixed anyway
[20:49] <asac> yes.
[20:49] <gnomefreak> asac: thats what i say
[20:49] <fta> asac, i didn't look at trunk yet, just the installer
[20:49] <asac> i think its also wont fix for 3.6
[20:49] <asac> ok
[20:49] <gnomefreak> asac: marking as such
[20:54] <fta> asac, bug 402698
[20:55] <gnomefreak> ok someone please ask what timely manner means on bug 401462  its too wide open ill end up in trouble
[20:58]  * micahg kicks ubottu
[20:58] <micahg> bug 401462
[21:00] <micahg> gnomefreak: sounds like the person's complaining about the internet
[21:04] <gnomefreak> micahg: and you see how i would get introuble :)
[21:04] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[21:05] <gnomefreak> all have flash or java?
[21:05] <gnomefreak> still not here
[21:05] <asac> fta: interesting. lets wait for the retracers
[21:06] <asac> fta: but in fact i found more sources of mt access to gtk ... which cannot be fixed until 2.0
[21:06] <asac> wouldnt make sense to fix i mean
[21:06] <asac> in 2.0 all is gone becuase backend was done properly from what i was told and UI is just UI thread
[21:08] <gnomefreak> 10 sites out of the whole web load slow its not firefox its sites
[21:09] <eagles0513875> is gcc a big thing to compile
[21:10] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: im going with a yes but not as bad as say a kernel
[21:10] <micahg> gnomefreak: convert to Q
[21:10] <micahg> ?
[21:10] <micahg> let someone troubleshoot his network
[21:10] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: its taking some time here
[21:12] <gnomefreak> micahg: im testing and commenting
[21:12] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: time eh that depends on too many things. our buildds are fast as hell for some reason though
[21:12] <asac> fta: retracers failed
[21:13] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: i would be scared if thats the case
[21:13] <fta> asac, so convince them to put 2.0 in trunk and package the daemon ;)
[21:13] <eagles0513875> could be servers with lots of ram and processing power
[21:14] <asac> fta: we will
[21:15] <asac> from what i understand its actually supposed to end up in main or even CD
[21:18] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: i have 256 ram and a 1.3ghz and firefox thunderbird seamonkey and sunbird all take hours to do
[21:19] <gnomefreak> gwget is fast and extensions are fast i dont know the size of gcc but im guessing its not small
[21:19] <eagles0513875> ya but im on an intel i7 and 2gb ddr3 could be i have a number of things open
[21:19] <gnomefreak> micahg: tested all and closed. if you like to test and confirm be my guest but hes not going to like my answer
[21:20] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: what the hell could you have open every app in Ubuntu repos?
[21:20] <gnomefreak> you have plenty of everything to run that build
[21:20] <eagles0513875> osx here with terminal yahoo i tunes kvirc msn and safari open lol
[21:21] <eagles0513875> im finding out when using macports its alot like emerge on gentoo it pulls source compiles and installs it that way
[21:21] <gnomefreak> close itunes and watch you will build it in half the time lol
[21:21] <eagles0513875> im listening to some awesome trance music atm
[21:21] <eagles0513875> lol
[21:21]  * gnomefreak still wants a mac but i think my aunt fried hers so ill have one that i will have to rebuild if i get one
[21:22] <eagles0513875> hehe
[21:22] <eagles0513875> this is the 13inch base macbook pro
[21:22] <eagles0513875> 1200 usd
[21:22] <eagles0513875> ram can have up to 8gb of ddr3 which is over priced right now at 900 usd
[21:23]  * gnomefreak be back feed dog, ill fix ff when i get back and propose it again
[21:27] <micahg> gnomefreak: your answer is fine with me
[21:27] <gnomefreak> micahg: ok cool
[21:27] <gnomefreak> thanks for looking
[21:30] <gnomefreak> oh shit this was the push i had issues with wasnt it
[21:30] <gnomefreak> lets see how it goes
[21:32] <gnomefreak> ok pushing using sftp ill let you know when its done
[21:34] <gnomefreak> ok sunbird built that is finally done and ready gcc is fixed as well as everything else. please dont yell at me for versioning its wasnt on purpose
[21:34] <gnomefreak> damn that was fast
[21:36] <gnomefreak> asac: requested the merge for FF branches changed karmic to UNRELEASED
[21:40] <gnomefreak> ok for the next while ill be in and out. test building tbird gcc fix and it lags and locks me up alot on builds
[21:44] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: i would be scared if its done so fast
[21:44] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: it pushed just fine i think it was LP fault this morning
[21:45] <eagles0513875> what kinda servers are used as the build servers outa curiosity sake ?
[21:45] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: not sure how where they have them set up
[21:46] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[22:00] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak:  or asac can i get some help in kubuntu-offtopic with someone whose having graphics issues with an intel 965
[22:01] <gnomefreak> intel is karmic has issues some were fixed with latest upload
[22:01] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: other than that good luck :)
[22:01] <eagles0513875> this is jaunty this guys is on
[22:01]  * gnomefreak cnat find the fucking elif
[22:02] <gnomefreak> nsAppRunner.cpp:1373:6: error: #elif with no expression
[22:03] <gnomefreak> im guessing if i use 4.4 instead of system default this will work and use default for 1.0*. its worth a try atleast
[22:08] <fta> gnomefreak, you have to patch that, it's a known bug, we have the patch in other branches
[22:08] <asac> gnomefreak: pick it from tbird too
[22:08] <fta> gnomefreak, btw, your ff patch is still wrong :P
[22:08] <asac> or if its sm2 pick it from xul or somewhere
[22:09] <gnomefreak> fta: whats wrong with it?
[22:10] <gnomefreak> what branch has the patch (nake as well would help
[22:11] <gnomefreak> i dont remember seeing a patch for gcc in tbird2
[22:12] <gnomefreak> 18_arm_xpcom_unused_attribute.dpatch
[22:12] <gnomefreak> 38_arm_xpcom_optim.dpatch
[22:12] <gnomefreak> those seem new
[22:12] <gnomefreak> nope i have them
[22:12] <gnomefreak> 18_arm_xpcom_unused_attribute.dpatch
[22:13] <gnomefreak> 38_arm_xpcom_optim.dpatch
[22:13] <gnomefreak> damnit i found it
[22:13] <gnomefreak> ftbfs_gcc44_elif.patch
[22:14] <asac> gnomefreak: the last one
[22:14] <asac> right ;)
[22:21] <gnomefreak> brb but what is wrong with FF fix? ill only be  aminute
[22:21] <fta> gnomefreak, you should use dch, you would have known what's wrong
[22:22] <gnomefreak> fta: i did use dch
[22:22] <gnomefreak> dch -i to start with
[22:22] <gnomefreak> than -r for last change
[22:22] <fta> then remove -i
[22:22] <fta> just dch
[22:23] <gnomefreak> other than bumping ubuntu by 1 and that is expected
[22:25] <gnomefreak> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox/firefox.dev/revision/440  looks right to me
[22:26] <asac> SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1
[22:28] <gnomefreak> asac: ?
[22:29] <gnomefreak> asac: i have b1 in PPA already have had it there well for a while
[22:29] <gnomefreak> before the FTBFS issues
[22:29] <asac> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.announce.prerelease/browse_thread/thread/60c0e5737c7d6c6c#
[22:29] <asac> yeah
[22:29]  * gnomefreak still doesnt see a problem with changelog
[22:29] <asac> still the announcement seems to be new
[22:30] <gnomefreak> asac: it does they were talking about pre b1 for a long time but i had b1 in PPA long before that. maybe the hg is pre b1?
[22:31] <gnomefreak> once m-d gets fixed ill be glad to update it but take your time
[22:31] <asac> gnomefreak: b1~hg... means its pre-b1
[22:32] <gnomefreak> asac: ah ok now that makes sence
[22:33] <gnomefreak> fta: if you mean the patch on the bug i havent updated it with changelog changes but as for changelog on branch i dont see anything wrong. ubuntu2 is in repos so ubuntu3 is next it has unreleased in it
[22:33] <gnomefreak> and no spelling mistakes
[22:34] <asac> gnomefreak: if the current bzr branch has UNRELEASED in it, you are supposed to add your entry to the existing changelog entry and not a new one
[22:34] <asac> i think thats all fta is asking for
[22:34] <asac> so uncommit ... move your stuff to the changelog below and remove your newly created one
[22:34] <asac> take care that its still at UNRELEASED
[22:35] <gnomefreak> i had karmic in it to start with. :) i didnt think adding to exsiting is good because 2 was released to archives
[22:35] <asac> let me check
[22:35] <asac> gnomefreak: so bzr branch has ubuntu2 on top and its UNRELEASED
[22:36] <asac> gnomefreak: this means either we forgot to commit something or we dont have ubuntu2 in the archive
[22:36] <asac> !info firefox-3.5 karmic
[22:36] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[22:36] <asac> so that tells us that we dont have ubuntu2 in the archive
[22:36] <asac> so please add your stuff to ubuntu2 UNRELEASED ;)
[22:37] <asac> i guess you mixed firefox-3.0 up with firefox-3.5
[22:37] <gnomefreak> doing so
[22:37] <asac> 3.0 hsa ubuntu2 in archive
[22:37] <asac> but not 3.5
[22:37] <asac> !info firefox-3.0 karmic
[22:37] <asac> right :)
[22:37] <asac> hah
[22:37] <gnomefreak> ah i see oops
[22:41] <gnomefreak> do i uncommit the ubuntu2 entry and commit with me in there?
[22:41] <gnomefreak> or add another revision
[22:41] <asac> fta: something is odd with our firefox project and how we use release series
[22:41] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/firefox/+series
[22:42] <asac> seems that trunk is a branch for us
[22:42] <asac> ;)
[22:43] <asac> fta: hah. i think its because we used main development focus for 3.5
[22:43] <fta> i didn't do that, someone else did
[22:43] <asac> fixed
[22:43] <asac> was it me?
[22:43] <asac> the UI is still really unintuitive
[22:44] <asac> was really hard for me to spot where to change something of that graph
[22:44] <asac> now its fixed: https://edge.launchpad.net/firefox/+series
[22:44] <fta> why is there just 1 release for everything?
[22:45] <asac> marking old serieses obsolete
[22:45] <asac> and updating other stuff
[22:45] <micahg> asac: do mozilla bugs need to be upstreamed to be marked triaged?
[22:45] <asac> let me first fix this ;)
[22:45] <micahg> if it's not an issue with our package
[22:45] <asac> micahg: yes, triaged is prereq. and you should add an empty upstream task if you dont have time to file it upstream
[22:46] <micahg> I'm saying which comes first, marking triaged or upstream task?
[22:46] <gnomefreak> same time IMO
[22:46] <asac> fta: i am not sure what benefit we would get for replaying releases on launchpad
[22:46] <asac> fta: maybe for xulrunner we could upload our tarballs
[22:46] <fta> asac, have a nice graph
[22:47] <asac> lol
[22:47] <asac> i guess we would need some launchpadlib script for that
[22:47] <gnomefreak> fta: should i uncommit your last entry (ubuntu2) and recommit it with my changes?
[22:47] <micahg> if I can't find the upstream lets say and I open a task, do I mark triaged or confirmed?  I was marking confirmed and opening the upstream task
[22:47] <micahg> empty
[22:47] <asac> that automatically re-releases upstream tarballs there  and if upstream does not release any, release on our own
[22:48] <micahg> note: this all had to do with a conversation I just ahd in ubuntu-bugs
[22:48] <fta> gnomefreak, no! why would you want to do that?
[22:48] <asac> micahg: triaged + empty
[22:48] <asac> is the right one
[22:48] <micahg> really
[22:48] <micahg> ok
[22:48] <micahg> didn't know that
[22:48] <asac> this means all info available and "needs to be send upstream"
[22:48] <gnomefreak> fta: because i added it to that changelog entry :)
[22:48] <micahg> so I guess I'm off on the whole thing
[22:49] <micahg> I thought triaged meant bug triager's job is over
[22:49] <asac> micahg: well, its not really written somewher, but thats the idea: first forward triaged ones with empty upstream task
[22:49] <asac> micahg: also thats the assumptions made in the upstream report are based on fromwhat i understood: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport
[22:49] <fta> gnomefreak, just document your changes inside the last block, as it has been done several times in that file. we often have multiple contributors for a given release
[22:50] <fta> that's just what i'm asking
[22:50] <micahg> indeed
[22:50] <micahg> asac: don't know why I didn't connect the dots
[22:51] <asac> gnomefreak: simple: start with whatever is currently in bzr. commit your change, and add your stuff to _current_ changelog entry :)
[22:52] <gnomefreak> done i pushed its updating
[22:54] <gnomefreak> asac: fta can one of you reject it ill re propsose it i am unable to open email atm thanks to tbird
[22:57] <asac> gnomefreak: why repropose?
[22:57] <asac> gnomefreak: just push again and suggest a new merge
[22:58] <asac> we will mark the old ones appropriately then
[22:58] <gnomefreak> thats what i meant
[22:59] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[22:59] <BUGabundo> finally back
[22:59]  * gnomefreak trys something new this time. give me a minute
[22:59] <BUGabundo> nvidia broke :(
[22:59] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: hi
[23:00] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: mine works just o3d isnt working for some damn reason
[23:00] <gnomefreak> asac: fta http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox/firefox.dev/revision/440  before i ask for merge
[23:00] <gnomefreak> let me know
[23:01] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: what version of gdm do you have?
[23:02] <gnomefreak> after 2.27.4-0ubuntu3 update. restart i had to drop to TTY and restart gdm than all worked fine
[23:02] <BUGabundo> let me check
[23:02]  * gnomefreak been to busy to test compiz though
[23:02] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy gdm  Installed: 2.27.4-0ubuntu4
[23:02] <gnomefreak> nothing loaded after signing in
[23:03] <BUGabundo> yep
[23:03] <gnomefreak> ah i havent done updates in 6 or so hours that could be why
[23:03] <BUGabundo> got that
[23:03] <BUGabundo> nvidia broke
[23:03] <BUGabundo> renamed xorg.conf
[23:03] <gnomefreak> thanks for warning :)
[23:03] <BUGabundo> fixd it
[23:03] <asac> gnomefreak: we usually add   - update debian/control (like you can see everywhere else) below the comment
[23:03] <asac> but its good that way imo
[23:03] <asac> green light from me to suggest a merge against firefox/3.5
[23:04] <asac> take care, i just renamed the branches a bit ;)
[23:04] <gnomefreak> shit i left that out
[23:04] <asac> gnomefreak: which firefox-3.0 do you have installed?
[23:04] <gnomefreak> i normall use debian/control: bleh bleh bleh
[23:05] <asac> gnomefreak: yes, but its good practice to keep same style of the reest of the changelog
[23:05] <asac> and not add individual entries with your personal preference - which looks unsorted in the end
[23:05] <gnomefreak> 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001
[23:05] <asac> gnomefreak: do you have that running?
[23:05] <gnomefreak> waiting to uninstall it
[23:05] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[23:05] <asac> gnomefreak: please start firefox 3.0
[23:05] <asac> does it work?
[23:06] <gnomefreak> asac: let me check
[23:06] <gnomefreak> asac: lp:firefox-3.5 now?
[23:07] <gnomefreak> everything is really slow atm. what do you mean by work?
[23:07] <asac> gnomefreak: i think so yes.
[23:07] <asac> gnomefreak: start firefox 3 please
[23:07] <asac> gnomefreak: does it come up?
[23:07] <micahg> they're doing maintenance on LP
[23:07] <asac> check that its firefox 3 in about -> help ;)
[23:07] <gnomefreak> k
[23:08] <asac> micahg: yeah. i saw a mail or two
[23:08] <asac> unscheduled downtime (/me didnt read that far)?
[23:08] <BUGabundo> asac: any date to fix the darn FF 3.6 X crax??
[23:08] <asac> BUGabundo: the --sync one?
[23:09] <gnomefreak> asac: you need to reject the merge first
[23:09] <BUGabundo> I found that starting from gnome do as less crash rate then from cli
[23:09] <BUGabundo> asac: yes that
[23:09] <BUGabundo> I just open in safemode, quit, and try 2 or 3 times and then it works
[23:09] <BUGabundo> :((((
[23:09] <asac> BUGabundo: we now have an upstream bug for that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499498
[23:09] <gnomefreak> asac: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060309 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.0.11
[23:09] <gnomefreak> works fine here
[23:09] <asac> BUGabundo: interestingly enough the initial reporter doesnt see it anymore
[23:10] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[23:10] <BUGabundo> :((
[23:10] <asac> gnomefreak: please test new tab
[23:10] <BUGabundo> I just saw it
[23:10] <BUGabundo> on daily ppa asac
[23:10] <asac> do you get the ubuntu homepage there?
[23:10] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah. but shouldnt matter
[23:10] <asac> we have a few more seeing it with 3.5.1 in archive
[23:10] <gnomefreak> asac: any other tests?
[23:10] <asac> gnomefreak: yes, newtab
[23:10] <asac> ctrl+t
[23:10] <asac> gnomefreak: does that show the ubuntu homepage?
[23:11] <gnomefreak> i know new tab in 3.5 pissing me off badly testing 3.0 now
[23:11] <gnomefreak> ubuntu search page but URL is empty
[23:11] <asac> yeah
[23:11] <asac> thats ok
[23:11] <BUGabundo> asac: 3.5.1 too?? oh man
[23:11] <BUGabundo> so it is ubuntu specific?
[23:11] <asac> BUGabundo: yes, its grave bug in archive i would say
[23:11] <gnomefreak> 3.5.1 does same thing but it has words in address bar
[23:12] <gnomefreak> dont recall what it says though
[23:12] <asac> gnomefreak: what pissed you off in newtab on 3.5?
[23:12] <asac> gnomefreak: do you see the same behaviour on 3.5 now too?
[23:12] <gnomefreak> aqsyes i liked empty one personally
[23:12] <asac> can you restart 3.5?
[23:12] <asac> i think you should see it there now as well
[23:12] <gnomefreak> asac: yes both are about the same
[23:12] <asac> yeah
[23:12] <asac> ok.
[23:12] <gnomefreak> i noticed it with 3.5 update today
[23:12] <asac> its expected that someone prefers the empty one ;)
[23:13] <gnomefreak> :) cant please everyone
[23:13] <asac> ok thanks. i think i got all the feedback i wanted for now
[23:15] <gnomefreak> asac: ok i rejected the other merge nad asked for merge this time
[23:16] <gnomefreak> ok doing updates than im gone i havent eatten lunch or dinner yet
[23:17] <asac> gnomefreak: enjoy ... we will check when we get the mail i guess
[23:17] <reed__> asac: pushed 3.0.12 yet?
[23:19] <asac> reed__: not yet. we usually wait a few hours to protect us against the worst regressions. but the gun is definitly loaded :)
[23:20] <BUGabundo> .12? a new one
[23:20] <BUGabundo> ?
[23:20] <asac> yes
[23:20] <BUGabundo> some one please kill 3.0.x
[23:20] <asac> why ;)?
[23:20] <asac> its a decent user experience still
[23:20] <BUGabundo> too oldddd
[23:20] <asac> hehe
[23:20] <asac> at lesat you can start it wihtout --sync ;)
[23:22] <BUGabundo> haven't used --sync in a while :)
[23:24] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah. if you have it open you dont need it anymore
[23:24] <EruditeHermit> asac: hi
[23:24] <EruditeHermit> asac: I have a question about launchpad
[23:24] <EruditeHermit> would you know anything about it?
[23:24] <gnomefreak> ok the patched fixed sunbird now that is ready, tbird still building and ff-3.5 asked for merge if you reject it ill fix the changelog/revision tomorrow but please comment on it so i know
[23:25] <gnomefreak> EruditeHermit: we know a little but #launchpad would know more
[23:25] <EruditeHermit> ah o k
[23:26] <gnomefreak> checking email than going for night
[23:30] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: how are you feeling lately ?
[23:31] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: other than in pain im alright but pain will never go away
[23:35] <EruditeHermit> gnomefreak: what happened?
[23:36] <BUGabundo> cirgury
[23:36] <gnomefreak> EruditeHermit: knee problems sinc ei was 10
[23:36] <EruditeHermit> =(
[23:36] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: eye dont hurt but knee surgery didnt help knee
[23:36] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:36] <gnomefreak> eye on monday again
[23:36] <BUGabundo> guud luck
[23:37] <gnomefreak> than glasses so i can see (everything is still very blurry
[23:37] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: thanks
[23:37] <gnomefreak> ok night guys
[23:47] <asac_> EruditeHermit: irc thing is done atm. no i dont know anything about launchpad code base yet either
[23:48] <asac_> i think dev.launchpad.net is the right resource not sure if htere is a #launchpad-dev channel; otherwise maybe #launchpad
[23:49] <micahg> yes, there is a launchpad-dev channel for the development of LP
[23:50] <asac_> gtk
[23:50] <EruditeHermit> yeah I asked in #launchpad and figured out what I wanted
[23:50] <EruditeHermit> thanks for pointing me there
[23:50] <asac_> np
[23:57] <bluekuja> asac__, it looks like you're lagging ;)
[23:58] <BUGabundo> by several min
[23:58] <bluekuja> yep