=== asac_ is now known as asac [00:44] fta: i dont think there is a page. there might be specs [00:44] * asac tries to remember when gstreamer feature was developed [00:45] otherwise there is the gstreamer api if that helps [00:46] asac LIVESSSSSSSSSSS [00:47] what does that mean? ;) [00:50] means I should have been in bed 1h ago :) [00:50] and that we missed you! [00:51] don't go away for a weekend and not let us know [00:51] * BUGabundo hugs asac [00:51] again [00:51] I should have been in bed 1h ago :) [00:52] asac, this was about the codecs in chromium.. how could we do to be on par with chrome that will ship h264, mp3 and aac. [00:52] knowing that youtube uses h264, we have to do something [00:55] * BUGabundo /sbin/movearse sofa /dev/bed; ln -s eyeupperlid eyelowerlid [00:56] BUGabundo: haha. better go away a weekend than getting burned out completely ;) [00:56] fta: i think gstreamer would still work more or less automatically [00:57] fta: but most likely they want to use ffmpeg which probably lacks a app-install backend still (i think someone said that ffmpeg supports a similar on-demand mechanism now) [00:58] asac, they 1st need to merge the -mt branch in, it's intrusive [00:58] why do they mt if they run each window/plugin in a separate process anyway? [00:59] i would expect them to be the last application that need that [00:59] i think the video rendered is shared [01:00] yeah, but i find that odd somehow [01:01] anyway. i am not sure how to put -mt branch in. maybe try to convince debian maintainer to do that ;) [01:01] also understanding why upstream doesnt put that in would help [01:01] e.g. ffmpeg upstream [01:01] they probably have concerns [01:04] anyway. i have to hunt myself to bed now ;). 'night [01:05] i've been told that ffmpeg-mt is not a fork, it was a GSoC project, and will be eventually merged into ffmpeg [01:06] but it's big, intrusive, and that takes time to review [01:10] asac: how do I get ubuntu moblin remix? [01:16] jcastro: ping [02:28] reed, pong [02:28] jcastro: how do I get Ubuntu Moblin Remix? Mozilla's CEO would like to try it. [04:15] ping reed [05:32] reed: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/ [05:35] micahg: pong [05:35] e-jat: ah, thanks [05:35] oh [05:35] that's netbook [05:35] I want the moblin [05:35] ubuntu moblin remix [05:36] hi, is this report valid again TB 2.0.0.22? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2009-2535 [05:36] reed: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/releases/8.04.1/ <-- this ? [05:37] micahg: let me look [05:38] e-jat: hmm [05:38] no, there's supposedly one for 9.04 [05:40] reed: http://moblin.org/documentation/test-drive-moblin is this it? [05:42] reed: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-moblin-remix | is it still in blueprint or already release for tester [05:45] e-jat: yeah [05:45] that looks like it [06:01] reed: did you get a chance to look at that? [06:03] micahg: let me look at that CVE [06:03] ok [06:03] leave a message here [06:03] I'll check back [06:03] I'm heading home now [06:03] thanks reed [06:03] k [09:17] reed: did you find mobling remix yet? [09:21] asac: no [09:21] asac: not the latest one [09:21] with moblin 2 [09:36] reed: unrelated, but still: http://identi.ca/notice/6764568 ;) [09:40] woo, finally === jtv is now known as jtv-afk [10:33] asac: now that Daneil is gone who is our main sound guy? at least i think hes gone [10:35] * gnomefreak meeds an assistant [10:36] gnomefreak: he is gone? [10:36] he is still in this channel ;) [10:37] he is? [10:37] ah yes i missed him the first time [10:38] /me made an oops. i cant have coffee yet so my bain will function badly [10:39] hheh [10:40] asac: look at diff on bug 365965 and let me know if its good :) i guess it should go into at least our daily PPA [10:40] Launchpad bug 365965 in firefox-3.5 "[MASTER] Firefox3.5 recommends ubufox but should suggest ubufox" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365965 [10:40] s/bain/brain [10:40] im making sure it attached fine [10:41] asac: ok thats not hte bug [10:41] gnomefreak: thtas obviously right. but suggesting a merge would be better as our branch has different changelog etc ;) [10:41] asac: i made one on a nother bug but why not this one [10:42] asac: i havent pushed to a branch yet but can oince i find the bug [10:42] ah it is [10:44] ok i see he patched ubufox and i patched FF-3.0 [10:46] asac: ill push to a branch today. ok what should i use for version in changelog? [10:52] asac: we'll be moving to Bugzilla 3.4 in the next few months [10:53] once that's done, launchpad integration should be easy [10:53] :) [10:55] good ;) [10:55] yay i fixed icon :) now to get it to build in LP [11:05] ah i used the version in repos not daily [11:12] ok going to use mozilla-teams lp:firefox branch instead of from repos [11:19] asac: you're ready for the Firefox release today? [11:22] reed: i think so ... was there a build2? we have build1 staged [11:22] um [11:22] * reed looks [11:22] 3.0.12+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1 [11:23] i lost track in the mids of this 3.5 firedrill [11:23] too many mails ;) [11:24] yeah, build1 is right [11:24] I think [11:24] * asac too ;) [11:25] its just that we had the build in our staging area for felt-ages [11:25] but that probabl was the 3.5 push that came in between [11:25] yeah [11:25] ok, cool [11:25] just making sure you're ready [11:26] thx [11:26] we are basically sitting and waiting. [11:54] ok pushing 2 branches so im going to walk away while this happens, for some reason my connection speed drop alot since wed. of last week [11:58] sorry for that. thanks [12:09] asac: np i have to fix sunbird branches anyway [12:34] yay sunbird is finally ready for push to repos :) [12:34] pushing firefox branch now [12:34] gnomefreak: firefox? for ubufox? yeah [12:39] firefox but its failing to push stalling at 43% [12:42] im asking in #bzr if ther eis another way to push it maybe not stall that way [12:45] asac: ubufox has a patch on that same bug it seems. it looks like 3.5 was added to ubufox deps. cant recall persons name for that patch. maybe i should have mixed his changes and gave him credit for them so the branch is updated all together. let me know if i should do that [12:46] no i cant nevermind [12:48] i added bug 401165 fix to sunbird and pushed so now it is done just need to test build [12:48] Launchpad bug 401165 in thunderbird "build dependency on GCC-4.3 [armel]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401165 [12:55] reed: why doesnt bugzilla update the Component option box entries when i change the product? [12:55] reed: is there a trick or do i need to do two steps? === eagles051387 is now known as eagles0513875 [13:50] fta2: seems o3d doesnt work in firefox-3.5 checking chromium now but with firefox it tells me the plugin isnt installed [13:52] fta2: chromium tells me This page requires the O3D plugin to be installed also [13:52] hold that thought that was odd [13:55] nope same error. i have a nvidia 6200 so it should be supported [13:58] asac: having issues with bzr pushing firefox but sunbird pushed fine :( [14:00] hello. i'm trying to install the Daily build PPA, can you help me? [14:02] asking in #lp now bzr sent me there [14:02] Ddorda: what is the issue? [14:03] those type of questions scare me for user [14:03] trying to use the PPA of the daily build of firefox [14:03] Ddorda: that is not the problem you are having i need details on what you are trying to do and what happens [14:03] i've added it to the sources list and added the authentication [14:03] but got no idea how to install it [14:03] Ddorda: run sudo apt-get update [14:04] one sec [14:05] Ddorda: than if you have 3.5 it will upgrade if not sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 or whatever package you are looking for. be extreamly careful with daily builds they can and will break, make sure you know this before using it [14:05] if xulrunner breaks you will have issues outside of firefox thunderbird [14:05] okay, thanks :D [14:05] new sunbird pushed to PPA to test [14:06] also install firefox-3.5-gnome-support [14:06] if you want trunk install firefox-3.6 + -gnome-support instead [14:06] what is that for? [14:06] okay [14:06] thanks a lot you too [14:06] two* [14:07] * gnomefreak getting even more scared [14:07] you dont know to run update after adding PPA to sources.list you shouldnt really run daily builds [14:08] yes i know hes gone. can we add a warning to daily build PPA page [14:08] heh [14:08] i think there is a warning ;) [14:09] dailies are ok for anyone who knows that there are risks [14:09] no particular skills required imo [14:09] maybe warning if you cant run update you need not use this repo :) [14:09] except maybe logging into irc and joining this channel [14:09] lol [14:10] asac: btw it looks like LP is having issues (not sure why only one branch) but its dying with connection refused after it starts pushing [14:10] gnomefreak: yes, that could be the case [14:11] ok 64bit built. sunbird is ready. did you want me to fix bug 401165 in tbird-2 [14:11] Launchpad bug 401165 in thunderbird "build dependency on GCC-4.3 [armel]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401165 [14:11] asked in #lp but didnt get answer but looks like im not only one, if same issue [14:12] hm lp is screwed up it said 64bit finished but refresh and its still there [14:18] ok good lpis an d 386 built so sunbird _is_ fixed using gcc-4.4 rather than 4.3 :) [14:19] ah it 555 not 777 :) [14:26] this looks like a PPA issue not package issue [14:26] checking whether the C compiler (gcc-4.2 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions) works... no [14:26] configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables [14:27] gnomefreak: yes. want to fix armel [14:27] did you get all the patches? [14:27] asac: for armel in sunbird yes [14:27] gnomefreak: where do you get the compiler problem? [14:27] gnomefreak: which patches did you pick? [14:27] should be 3 or 4 [14:27] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29326564/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.lightning-sunbird_0.9%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu6~jjv3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:28] hey guys [14:28] asac: per bug he told me either no version or 4.4 for karmic [14:29] gnomefreak: gcc-4.2 [14:29] i had 4.3 and it failed as well with same error. only thing i did other than gcc fix is remove the set -e section for icons (it built jaunty fine. from jaunty to karmic changes was the gCC build-dep [14:29] gnomefreak: you didnt fix debian/rules as it seems [14:29] ah [14:29] ok looking [14:29] just dont set CC and CXX to anything ... it will then take the default [14:30] oh [14:31] hows karmic looking my desktop upstairs is jaunty atm [14:31] asac: so CC=gcc-4.4 should be CC=gcc [14:31] eagles0513875: i havent done updates since friday so i couldnt tell you but most is good here [14:31] gnomefreak: just uncomment that line [14:31] k [14:31] comment i mean [14:31] probably upgrade :) [14:31] same for CXX= [14:32] gnomefreak: and drop any special build depends on gcc [14:32] if i can ssh onto from my mac lol [14:32] asac: got it [14:40] asac, do you know what is the difference between %u and %U in .desktop files? [14:41] fta2: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html [14:41] %u A single URL. Local files may either be passed as file: URLs or as file path. [14:41] %U A list of URLs. Each URL is passed as a separate argument to the executable program. Local files may either be passed as file: URLs or as file path. [14:42] fta2: ^^ [14:46] trying ff-3.5 branch one more time for now [14:57] you guys think i should upgrade [14:57] i dont know your setup etc. [14:57] i would say dont upgrade remotely [14:57] if you want to be safe [14:57] whats wrong with doing that i would be upgrading to karmic over the net [14:57] eagles0513875: if you use NM you might loose net in the middle of the upgrade [14:58] you would need to use update-manager -d [14:58] but even then there might be a hickup or something else [14:58] if the machine is not within reach you might risk of not being able to fix any distruoption [14:58] ya i can do that from upstairs [14:58] but thats your own estimate [14:58] asac, ok so %u is enough for a browse [14:58] r [14:58] so decide on your own [14:58] fta2: well, if you want to open multple urls at one time maybe not [14:59] !upgrade [14:59] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [14:59] asac, we use %u for firefox [15:01] brb guys gonna upgrade [15:02] why does this keep stalling out damnit [15:04] gnomefreak: this? [15:05] [###############\ ] Copying content texts:Copied record 1211/1295 [15:05] heh [15:05] almost there too [15:06] wgrant says there is slashdotting going on right now maybe thats why [15:08] fta2: true. not sure what happens if we try %U [15:08] asac: as for tbird-2 patches they are all there and also all there in sunbird. ill work on tbird-2 fix for that bug in a bit. just need to see if ff will push [15:09] sorry so late been pulling my hair out [15:14] yay it worked :) [15:14] ok firefox-3.5 fix and sunbird are done [15:14] upgrading :) [15:20] asac: proposed merge into MT firefox-3.5 branch [15:24] thx [15:28] gnomefreak, changelog is wrong, previous entry was UNRELEASED, no need for a new version [15:29] fta2: changelog for what? [15:29] gnomefreak: ffox 35 merge request most likely [15:30] 3.5 is released why wouldnt we use a target? [15:31] give me a few hours and ill change it if need be [15:34] ill be back just testing build [15:49] i lied sunbird isnt fixed yet but i have a few things to try [15:55] ok got past the configure but failed on build oh damn please tell me i didnt over look that [15:59] ok that should fix sunbird but will let you know tomorrow or way later today [16:42] !time [16:42] Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP) [16:50] lol [16:51] gnomefreak, oh, and don't close changelog, keep it open with UNRELEASED, we always close it in a dedicated commit [16:51] asac, did you do something with v8 since last time? [16:58] fta2: the patch for hidden was the last i did [16:58] fta2: i wanted to track ABI/API afterwards to see how bad it breaks likage; at best using chromium ;) [16:59] fta2: i think i failed to submit it because i couldnt find any hint about git cl and where to get it ;) [17:01] gcl is in depot_tools [17:02] fta2: maybe we should package that to get things started ;) [17:02] anyway, will check it out next slot [17:53] fta: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001 uploaded === micahg1 is now known as micahg [18:31] load of >20, hm, all my shells are dead [18:31] i guess i have to reboot, somehow [18:31] no shell, no mouse, gasp [18:42] welcome back netsplitters ;) [18:57] asac: was this fixed in TB2 already? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2009-2535 [18:59] micahg: yes if you look in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460713 you see its verified1.8.1.19, verified1.9.0.5 [19:00] Mozilla bug 460713 in General "[FIX]Memory exhaustion setting HTMLSelect.length() [GSEC-TZO-26-2009]" [Critical,Verified: fixed] [19:00] e.g. ffox 3.0.5 and tbird 2.0.0.19+ [19:00] ok, I didn't know if TB2 and FF2 were on the same gecko branch [19:00] micahg: yes, they are both from 1.8.1 [19:01] ok, cool [19:01] I'll ignore then [19:02] micahg: yeah. close it if its an ubuntu bug [19:02] nope, I was gonna open one if we were affected [19:04] asac: bug 195698 just had upstream released in trunk, xilrunner-1.9 is triaged, should I mark xulrunner-1.9 won't fix and open a xulrunner-1.9.1 task? [19:04] Launchpad bug 195698 in firefox "Password asked separately for each tab that requires it " [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195698 [19:05] micahg: yes, we have to check whether we want to ask for a cherry pick for 1.9.1 [19:10] or that [19:10] It's already invalid [19:10] or add firefox-3.5 and wontfix firefox [19:10] but I can change the package [19:10] ok [19:10] that's what I'm wondering [19:10] keep it that way and if you want add it to firefox-3.5 [19:10] so we don't have too many tasks [19:10] ok, O [19:11] i'll just add another one [19:11] i think its up to the triager [19:11] oh [19:11] i wouldnt necessarily reassign if we already have two tasks [19:11] There are 3 right now, FF, FF3, and xul1.9 [19:11] for me reassigning if there is one task makes sense, but this just documents the state for the various branches in one place [19:11] do we need to document ff2 anymore? [19:12] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [19:12] 3668 root 20 0 2031m 1.7g 2376 R 10 88.6 5:57.27 bootchart [19:12] micahg: not sure. i just think that invalid is an end-state and reusing tasks sounds wrong ;) [19:12] ok [19:12] xulrunner-1.9 we could argue could be reused [19:13] just wanted to check the policy with you [19:13] but keeping it open would catch duplicates if someone else thinks again its a xulrunner-1.9 task [19:13] you filed it under xulrunner :) [19:13] micahg: also i think having wont fix bugs in firefox is good because there are still a few people filing 3.0 bugs against firefox ... and i doubt this will change [19:13] ok, I usually try to move them [19:13] but ok [19:14] I'll file against ff3.5 to catch dupes [19:14] micahg: yeah. i acutally think that this is one of the bugs that stopped me doing that [19:14] and it's marked maybe 1.9.1 [19:14] micahg: right. i think more tasks are better; we wont get more than one mail i hope [19:14] and it might catch dupes [19:14] nah, just an intial mail saying the task is open [19:16] I changed ff3.0 to won't fix [19:42] X just crashed, wtf? [19:52] hmm. reproducible? [19:53] or just a one timer? [19:53] bug 343528 [19:54] no bot [19:54] hm [19:54] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/343528 [19:55] Launchpad bug 343528 in xorg-server "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in EvdevMBEmuBlockHandler()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343528 [19:55] Ubuntu bug 343528 in xorg-server "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in EvdevMBEmuBlockHandler()" [Medium,Triaged] [19:55] slow bot, bad bot [19:57] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17363 [19:57] hmm [19:58] how does chrome do proxy config? [19:58] through gconf or env? [19:58] i think env should work on kubuntu at least [19:58] most likely they dont honour system settings at all ;) [20:23] asac: chrome going to be in karmic [20:24] chrome != chromium [20:24] chrome is non-free [20:25] fta: about http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17363 ... does it work on gnome at least? [20:26] eagles0513875: was that a question or a fact? [20:26] question [20:26] sry need to punctuate my sentences i know [20:26] builders are backed up by the looks of it [20:27] pushed it 2 hours ago and its starts building in ~1hour [20:27] fta: did you reject the merge for me to fix it? [20:28] gnomefreak, no, i just read the email [20:28] gnomefreak: you can improve it and push --overwrite [20:28] that will resubmit it [20:28] or you could do a new one [20:28] which is probably cleaner [20:29] i will reject it now [20:29] asac: i can fix it thats no problem. i need to use a target for PPA thats why i always have them there :) [20:29] asac: i could have rejected it. i just dont like apporing my own merge requests [20:30] hehe [20:31] ok done [20:31] ok its rejected [20:31] lol [20:31] selecting resubmit is odd [20:31] not sure what that means [20:31] so i didnt do that [20:31] i rejected it too just now [20:31] yeah [20:31] no need for resubmit i just propose it again [20:31] yes [20:32] asac: i should have tbird2 done tomorrow. i think i fixed all the problems [20:32] still there is a status "Resubmit" if you edit a merge proposal [20:32] thats odd [20:32] if you try it ;) [20:32] i read it three times and couldnt really understand what it does [20:32] asac, fix it, lp is open source now [20:32] lol [20:32] and _who_ is supposed to run it [20:32] haha [20:32] package dailies ;) [20:33] though i guess that would be hardly of much use ;) [20:33] * gnomefreak should know better than to ask questions when the answer is going to confuse me more [20:34] gnomefreak: which question? [20:36] i asked "what do you mean" :( and he confused me even more [20:36] micahg: you around i am confused [20:37] asac: it was about the bug that the merge request was for. but he said i was supposed to move it to another bug but the other bug was QT related [20:38] * gnomefreak not even going to try to port ubufox for QT [20:38] hi gnomefreak [20:38] no [20:38] that's not what I said... [20:38] micahg: hi :) [20:38] thats what i read [20:38] sorry [20:38] must ahve been tired [20:38] or did you mean the other patch should have gone there [20:38] what you did for that bug was right [20:39] asac, i wonder if anyone will do anything with the lp sources [20:39] other patch == not mine [20:39] there was a secondary issue in that bug about ubufox pulling in apturl and the suggestion about making a KDE version of apturl that ubufox could rely on [20:39] asac: wasnt 3.0.12 released (ff) [20:39] but it was already in another bug [20:40] micahg: ah ok [20:40] and then there was what asac already did which is update ubufox for ff3.5 which was also another bug [20:40] micahg: i was going to look at that as well but QT libs and me dont mix well [20:40] yeah, that's ok [20:40] does the mozillateam maintain apturl? [20:41] maybe we should talk with riddel about doing QT version. however i dont know if apturl needs to get looked at by mvo [20:41] micahg: mvo as i recall [20:41] ok [20:41] micahg: as has worked on it before [20:41] 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001 [20:42] if 12 == released why push 11 [20:43] fta: thats why launchpad wasnt open-sourced initially [20:43] fta: it wsa thought that likelyhood of someone actually contributing would be small [20:43] fta: and hence you only get risk by opening it up early [20:45] gnomefreak: the me001 upload was a quick shot to get something on CD [20:45] gnomefreak: .12 isnt out yet and we couldnt wait any longer [20:45] asac, the installer is really messing with the system, and i'm not even sure all the pieces are included. it's far from clear by reading the initial announcement [20:45] we already are in freeze since this morning iirc [20:45] asac: ah because of main freeze [20:45] i forgot about that email [20:45] fta: which installer? [20:45] asac, rocketfuel-setup [20:45] fta: ah ... the launchpad installer ... yeah [20:46] note: i have no clue about anything of this, but it sounds like it was really made for internal use, where the user is a dedicated launchpad developer [20:46] fta: i thought that fule setup thing is probably just the most high level approach that exist to get a running system [20:47] most likely you can do it with individual pieces [20:47] that part is clear when you read the sources ;) [20:47] just not with a single command ;) [20:48] fta: did you see if there is anything useful for dailies etc in that snapshot yet? [20:48] i hope some debian fanatics package that cleanly [20:48] this is always a bad idea. bug 307377 [20:48] Launchpad bug 307377 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3.0 needs to show 'Icons and Text' by default in the toolbar" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307377 [20:48] tahts wontfix, right [20:48] oh and 3.0 wont get fixed anyway [20:49] yes. [20:49] asac: thats what i say [20:49] asac, i didn't look at trunk yet, just the installer [20:49] i think its also wont fix for 3.6 [20:49] ok [20:49] asac: marking as such [20:54] asac, bug 402698 [20:54] Launchpad bug 402698 in gwibber "gwibber crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_free_chain_with_offset()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402698 [20:55] ok someone please ask what timely manner means on bug 401462 its too wide open ill end up in trouble [20:58] * micahg kicks ubottu [20:58] bug 401462 [20:59] Launchpad bug 401462 in firefox-3.0 "Occasionally fails to load page in tab from link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401462 [21:00] gnomefreak: sounds like the person's complaining about the internet [21:04] micahg: and you see how i would get introuble :) [21:04] brb smoke [21:05] all have flash or java? [21:05] still not here [21:05] fta: interesting. lets wait for the retracers [21:06] fta: but in fact i found more sources of mt access to gtk ... which cannot be fixed until 2.0 [21:06] wouldnt make sense to fix i mean [21:06] in 2.0 all is gone becuase backend was done properly from what i was told and UI is just UI thread [21:08] 10 sites out of the whole web load slow its not firefox its sites [21:09] is gcc a big thing to compile [21:10] eagles0513875: im going with a yes but not as bad as say a kernel [21:10] gnomefreak: convert to Q [21:10] ? [21:10] let someone troubleshoot his network [21:10] gnomefreak: its taking some time here [21:12] micahg: im testing and commenting [21:12] eagles0513875: time eh that depends on too many things. our buildds are fast as hell for some reason though [21:12] fta: retracers failed [21:13] gnomefreak: i would be scared if thats the case [21:13] asac, so convince them to put 2.0 in trunk and package the daemon ;) [21:13] could be servers with lots of ram and processing power [21:14] fta: we will [21:15] from what i understand its actually supposed to end up in main or even CD [21:18] eagles0513875: i have 256 ram and a 1.3ghz and firefox thunderbird seamonkey and sunbird all take hours to do [21:19] gwget is fast and extensions are fast i dont know the size of gcc but im guessing its not small [21:19] ya but im on an intel i7 and 2gb ddr3 could be i have a number of things open [21:19] micahg: tested all and closed. if you like to test and confirm be my guest but hes not going to like my answer [21:20] eagles0513875: what the hell could you have open every app in Ubuntu repos? [21:20] you have plenty of everything to run that build [21:20] osx here with terminal yahoo i tunes kvirc msn and safari open lol [21:21] im finding out when using macports its alot like emerge on gentoo it pulls source compiles and installs it that way [21:21] close itunes and watch you will build it in half the time lol [21:21] im listening to some awesome trance music atm [21:21] lol [21:21] * gnomefreak still wants a mac but i think my aunt fried hers so ill have one that i will have to rebuild if i get one [21:22] hehe [21:22] this is the 13inch base macbook pro [21:22] 1200 usd [21:22] ram can have up to 8gb of ddr3 which is over priced right now at 900 usd [21:23] * gnomefreak be back feed dog, ill fix ff when i get back and propose it again [21:27] gnomefreak: your answer is fine with me [21:27] micahg: ok cool [21:27] thanks for looking [21:30] oh shit this was the push i had issues with wasnt it [21:30] lets see how it goes [21:32] ok pushing using sftp ill let you know when its done [21:34] ok sunbird built that is finally done and ready gcc is fixed as well as everything else. please dont yell at me for versioning its wasnt on purpose [21:34] damn that was fast [21:36] asac: requested the merge for FF branches changed karmic to UNRELEASED [21:40] ok for the next while ill be in and out. test building tbird gcc fix and it lags and locks me up alot on builds [21:44] gnomefreak: i would be scared if its done so fast [21:44] eagles0513875: it pushed just fine i think it was LP fault this morning [21:45] what kinda servers are used as the build servers outa curiosity sake ? [21:45] eagles0513875: not sure how where they have them set up [21:46] gotcha [22:00] gnomefreak: or asac can i get some help in kubuntu-offtopic with someone whose having graphics issues with an intel 965 [22:01] intel is karmic has issues some were fixed with latest upload [22:01] eagles0513875: other than that good luck :) [22:01] this is jaunty this guys is on [22:01] * gnomefreak cnat find the fucking elif [22:02] nsAppRunner.cpp:1373:6: error: #elif with no expression [22:03] im guessing if i use 4.4 instead of system default this will work and use default for 1.0*. its worth a try atleast [22:08] gnomefreak, you have to patch that, it's a known bug, we have the patch in other branches [22:08] gnomefreak: pick it from tbird too [22:08] gnomefreak, btw, your ff patch is still wrong :P [22:08] or if its sm2 pick it from xul or somewhere [22:09] fta: whats wrong with it? [22:10] what branch has the patch (nake as well would help [22:11] i dont remember seeing a patch for gcc in tbird2 [22:12] 18_arm_xpcom_unused_attribute.dpatch [22:12] 38_arm_xpcom_optim.dpatch [22:12] those seem new [22:12] nope i have them [22:12] 18_arm_xpcom_unused_attribute.dpatch [22:13] 38_arm_xpcom_optim.dpatch [22:13] damnit i found it [22:13] ftbfs_gcc44_elif.patch [22:14] gnomefreak: the last one [22:14] right ;) [22:21] brb but what is wrong with FF fix? ill only be aminute [22:21] gnomefreak, you should use dch, you would have known what's wrong [22:22] fta: i did use dch [22:22] dch -i to start with [22:22] than -r for last change [22:22] then remove -i [22:22] just dch [22:23] other than bumping ubuntu by 1 and that is expected [22:25] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox/firefox.dev/revision/440 looks right to me [22:26] SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 [22:28] asac: ? [22:29] asac: i have b1 in PPA already have had it there well for a while [22:29] before the FTBFS issues [22:29] http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.announce.prerelease/browse_thread/thread/60c0e5737c7d6c6c# [22:29] yeah [22:29] * gnomefreak still doesnt see a problem with changelog [22:29] still the announcement seems to be new [22:30] asac: it does they were talking about pre b1 for a long time but i had b1 in PPA long before that. maybe the hg is pre b1? [22:31] once m-d gets fixed ill be glad to update it but take your time [22:31] gnomefreak: b1~hg... means its pre-b1 [22:32] asac: ah ok now that makes sence [22:33] fta: if you mean the patch on the bug i havent updated it with changelog changes but as for changelog on branch i dont see anything wrong. ubuntu2 is in repos so ubuntu3 is next it has unreleased in it [22:33] and no spelling mistakes [22:34] gnomefreak: if the current bzr branch has UNRELEASED in it, you are supposed to add your entry to the existing changelog entry and not a new one [22:34] i think thats all fta is asking for [22:34] so uncommit ... move your stuff to the changelog below and remove your newly created one [22:34] take care that its still at UNRELEASED [22:35] i had karmic in it to start with. :) i didnt think adding to exsiting is good because 2 was released to archives [22:35] let me check [22:35] gnomefreak: so bzr branch has ubuntu2 on top and its UNRELEASED [22:36] gnomefreak: this means either we forgot to commit something or we dont have ubuntu2 in the archive [22:36] !info firefox-3.5 karmic [22:36] firefox-3.5 (source: firefox-3.5): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 931 kB, installed size 3580 kB [22:36] hmmmmm [22:36] so that tells us that we dont have ubuntu2 in the archive [22:36] so please add your stuff to ubuntu2 UNRELEASED ;) [22:37] i guess you mixed firefox-3.0 up with firefox-3.5 [22:37] doing so [22:37] 3.0 hsa ubuntu2 in archive [22:37] but not 3.5 [22:37] !info firefox-3.0 karmic [22:37] firefox-3.0 (source: firefox-3.0): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 887 kB, installed size 3512 kB [22:37] right :) [22:37] hah [22:37] ah i see oops [22:41] do i uncommit the ubuntu2 entry and commit with me in there? [22:41] or add another revision [22:41] fta: something is odd with our firefox project and how we use release series [22:41] https://edge.launchpad.net/firefox/+series [22:42] seems that trunk is a branch for us [22:42] ;) [22:43] fta: hah. i think its because we used main development focus for 3.5 [22:43] i didn't do that, someone else did [22:43] fixed [22:43] was it me? [22:43] the UI is still really unintuitive [22:44] was really hard for me to spot where to change something of that graph [22:44] now its fixed: https://edge.launchpad.net/firefox/+series [22:44] why is there just 1 release for everything? [22:45] marking old serieses obsolete [22:45] and updating other stuff [22:45] asac: do mozilla bugs need to be upstreamed to be marked triaged? [22:45] let me first fix this ;) [22:45] if it's not an issue with our package [22:45] micahg: yes, triaged is prereq. and you should add an empty upstream task if you dont have time to file it upstream [22:46] I'm saying which comes first, marking triaged or upstream task? [22:46] same time IMO [22:46] fta: i am not sure what benefit we would get for replaying releases on launchpad [22:46] fta: maybe for xulrunner we could upload our tarballs [22:46] asac, have a nice graph [22:47] lol [22:47] i guess we would need some launchpadlib script for that [22:47] fta: should i uncommit your last entry (ubuntu2) and recommit it with my changes? [22:47] if I can't find the upstream lets say and I open a task, do I mark triaged or confirmed? I was marking confirmed and opening the upstream task [22:47] empty [22:47] that automatically re-releases upstream tarballs there and if upstream does not release any, release on our own [22:48] note: this all had to do with a conversation I just ahd in ubuntu-bugs [22:48] gnomefreak, no! why would you want to do that? [22:48] micahg: triaged + empty [22:48] is the right one [22:48] really [22:48] ok [22:48] didn't know that [22:48] this means all info available and "needs to be send upstream" [22:48] fta: because i added it to that changelog entry :) [22:48] so I guess I'm off on the whole thing [22:49] I thought triaged meant bug triager's job is over [22:49] micahg: well, its not really written somewher, but thats the idea: first forward triaged ones with empty upstream task [22:49] micahg: also thats the assumptions made in the upstream report are based on fromwhat i understood: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport [22:49] gnomefreak, just document your changes inside the last block, as it has been done several times in that file. we often have multiple contributors for a given release [22:50] that's just what i'm asking [22:50] indeed [22:50] asac: don't know why I didn't connect the dots [22:51] gnomefreak: simple: start with whatever is currently in bzr. commit your change, and add your stuff to _current_ changelog entry :) [22:52] done i pushed its updating [22:54] asac: fta can one of you reject it ill re propsose it i am unable to open email atm thanks to tbird [22:57] gnomefreak: why repropose? [22:57] gnomefreak: just push again and suggest a new merge [22:58] we will mark the old ones appropriately then [22:58] thats what i meant [22:59] guud evening [22:59] finally back [22:59] * gnomefreak trys something new this time. give me a minute [22:59] nvidia broke :( [22:59] BUGabundo: hi [23:00] BUGabundo: mine works just o3d isnt working for some damn reason [23:00] asac: fta http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox/firefox.dev/revision/440 before i ask for merge [23:00] let me know [23:01] BUGabundo: what version of gdm do you have? [23:02] after 2.27.4-0ubuntu3 update. restart i had to drop to TTY and restart gdm than all worked fine [23:02] let me check [23:02] * gnomefreak been to busy to test compiz though [23:02] $ apt-cache policy gdm Installed: 2.27.4-0ubuntu4 [23:02] nothing loaded after signing in [23:03] yep [23:03] ah i havent done updates in 6 or so hours that could be why [23:03] got that [23:03] nvidia broke [23:03] renamed xorg.conf [23:03] thanks for warning :) [23:03] fixd it [23:03] gnomefreak: we usually add - update debian/control (like you can see everywhere else) below the comment [23:03] but its good that way imo [23:03] green light from me to suggest a merge against firefox/3.5 [23:04] take care, i just renamed the branches a bit ;) [23:04] shit i left that out [23:04] gnomefreak: which firefox-3.0 do you have installed? [23:04] i normall use debian/control: bleh bleh bleh [23:05] gnomefreak: yes, but its good practice to keep same style of the reest of the changelog [23:05] and not add individual entries with your personal preference - which looks unsorted in the end [23:05] 3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001 [23:05] gnomefreak: do you have that running? [23:05] waiting to uninstall it [23:05] gnomefreak: why? [23:05] gnomefreak: please start firefox 3.0 [23:05] does it work? [23:06] asac: let me check [23:06] asac: lp:firefox-3.5 now? [23:07] everything is really slow atm. what do you mean by work? [23:07] gnomefreak: i think so yes. [23:07] gnomefreak: start firefox 3 please [23:07] gnomefreak: does it come up? [23:07] they're doing maintenance on LP [23:07] check that its firefox 3 in about -> help ;) [23:07] k [23:08] micahg: yeah. i saw a mail or two [23:08] unscheduled downtime (/me didnt read that far)? [23:08] asac: any date to fix the darn FF 3.6 X crax?? [23:08] BUGabundo: the --sync one? [23:09] asac: you need to reject the merge first [23:09] I found that starting from gnome do as less crash rate then from cli [23:09] asac: yes that [23:09] I just open in safemode, quit, and try 2 or 3 times and then it works [23:09] :(((( [23:09] BUGabundo: we now have an upstream bug for that https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499498 [23:09] asac: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060309 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.0.11 [23:09] works fine here [23:09] BUGabundo: interestingly enough the initial reporter doesnt see it anymore [23:10] gnomefreak: ok [23:10] :(( [23:10] gnomefreak: please test new tab [23:10] I just saw it [23:10] on daily ppa asac [23:10] do you get the ubuntu homepage there? [23:10] BUGabundo: yeah. but shouldnt matter [23:10] we have a few more seeing it with 3.5.1 in archive [23:10] asac: any other tests? [23:10] Mozilla bug 499498 in X-remote "BadWindow error upon first run of FF3.5 RC" [Normal,New] [23:10] gnomefreak: yes, newtab [23:10] ctrl+t [23:10] gnomefreak: does that show the ubuntu homepage? [23:11] i know new tab in 3.5 pissing me off badly testing 3.0 now [23:11] ubuntu search page but URL is empty [23:11] yeah [23:11] thats ok [23:11] asac: 3.5.1 too?? oh man [23:11] so it is ubuntu specific? [23:11] BUGabundo: yes, its grave bug in archive i would say [23:11] 3.5.1 does same thing but it has words in address bar [23:12] dont recall what it says though [23:12] gnomefreak: what pissed you off in newtab on 3.5? [23:12] gnomefreak: do you see the same behaviour on 3.5 now too? [23:12] aqsyes i liked empty one personally [23:12] can you restart 3.5? [23:12] i think you should see it there now as well [23:12] asac: yes both are about the same [23:12] yeah [23:12] ok. [23:12] i noticed it with 3.5 update today [23:12] its expected that someone prefers the empty one ;) [23:13] :) cant please everyone [23:13] ok thanks. i think i got all the feedback i wanted for now [23:15] asac: ok i rejected the other merge nad asked for merge this time [23:16] ok doing updates than im gone i havent eatten lunch or dinner yet [23:17] gnomefreak: enjoy ... we will check when we get the mail i guess [23:17] asac: pushed 3.0.12 yet? [23:19] reed__: not yet. we usually wait a few hours to protect us against the worst regressions. but the gun is definitly loaded :) [23:20] .12? a new one [23:20] ? [23:20] yes [23:20] some one please kill 3.0.x [23:20] why ;)? [23:20] its a decent user experience still [23:20] too oldddd [23:20] hehe [23:20] at lesat you can start it wihtout --sync ;) [23:22] haven't used --sync in a while :) [23:24] BUGabundo: yeah. if you have it open you dont need it anymore [23:24] asac: hi [23:24] asac: I have a question about launchpad [23:24] would you know anything about it? [23:24] ok the patched fixed sunbird now that is ready, tbird still building and ff-3.5 asked for merge if you reject it ill fix the changelog/revision tomorrow but please comment on it so i know [23:25] EruditeHermit: we know a little but #launchpad would know more [23:25] ah o k [23:26] checking email than going for night [23:30] gnomefreak: how are you feeling lately ? [23:31] BUGabundo: other than in pain im alright but pain will never go away [23:35] gnomefreak: what happened? [23:36] cirgury [23:36] EruditeHermit: knee problems sinc ei was 10 [23:36] =( [23:36] BUGabundo: eye dont hurt but knee surgery didnt help knee [23:36] eheh [23:36] eye on monday again [23:36] guud luck [23:37] than glasses so i can see (everything is still very blurry [23:37] BUGabundo: thanks [23:37] ok night guys [23:47] EruditeHermit: irc thing is done atm. no i dont know anything about launchpad code base yet either [23:48] i think dev.launchpad.net is the right resource not sure if htere is a #launchpad-dev channel; otherwise maybe #launchpad [23:49] yes, there is a launchpad-dev channel for the development of LP [23:50] gtk [23:50] yeah I asked in #launchpad and figured out what I wanted [23:50] thanks for pointing me there [23:50] np [23:57] asac__, it looks like you're lagging ;) [23:58] by several min [23:58] yep