[00:03] <howie> Im installing ubuntu server on one of my old comps and it show all these ata1.01 status {DRDY} Frozen timeout stuff..
[00:04] <howie> its showing*
[00:04] <howie> should i just keep letting it do its thing or do i need to fix something first?
[00:23] <oh_noes> Anyone want to take a guess at where the console login screen gets the OS string and version from?
[00:23] <oh_noes> I was hoping to append something to it
[00:24] <jmedina>  /etc/issue, /etc/issue.net or /etc/motd, it depends how you log in
[00:28] <oh_noes> thanks
[00:50] <lukehasnoname> uname -a
[00:50] <lukehasnoname> ?
[01:00] <clusty> hey
[01:01] <clusty> i am trying to install a server on a headless machine using pxe
[01:01] <clusty> unfortunately the windows tftp is complaing: http://pastebin.com/m7e5a75b
[01:01] <clusty> any clue how to fix this?
[01:01] <clusty> the dhcp is proivided by the router
[01:02] <clusty> and tftp is running on a nother machine (windows)
[01:43] <oh_noes> Is there  an opem-vm-tools binary package for Ubuntu JeOS 8.04.3 LTS?
[01:43] <oh_noes> Or maybe I should ask, which repository has it?
[02:03] <jgedeon> oh_noes: I don't think it is in the repositories.
[02:04] <jgedeon> oh_noes:  Looks like it made it into intrepid and jaunty
[02:05] <jgedeon> But not hardy
[02:05] <oh_noes> I think thats cos it was never 'originally' super stable for LTS release
[02:05] <oh_noes> but I was hoping now, the code would be acceptable
[02:05] <oh_noes> unless theres another reason
[02:06] <roxy09> hi...i am trying to install a ldap backup server. I read the documentation but still i am not sure if i need to install everything like the main server and then some special configuration ?
[02:07] <roxy09> teh documentation said do somehitng in the serve but im not sure if they mean the main server or the secondary server
[02:07] <jgedeon> oh_noes: Lanchpad has them for hardy.
[02:07] <jgedeon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/open-vm-tools/+builds
[02:09] <jgedeon> oh_noes: but I think I would just get them for sourceforge and install the newer ones or go with what vmware server 2 has.
[02:09] <oh_noes> jgedeon: they are over 16 months old
[02:10] <jgedeon> http://sourceforge.net/projects/open-vm-tools/files/open-vm-tools/open-vm-tools-2009.06.18-172495.tar.gz/download
[02:10] <oh_noes> jgedeon: I need to automatically deploy JeOS VM's with it on there though .. is there a deb-src of them anywhere?
[02:10] <oh_noes> the sourceforge page onyl has the source ...
[02:10] <oh_noes> (tar.gz src)
[02:10] <jgedeon> Oh ok
[02:11] <twb> Debian source packages are available within the normal package archive.
[02:11] <twb> Add deb-src entries to your sources.list, then use "apt-get source open-vm-tools"
[02:12] <twb> If you need a newer version of a package, you should investigate -updates and -backports before building from upstream source, since packaged versions often include significant integration and bug fixes that are not available upstream.
[02:12] <twb> !updates
[02:12] <twb> !hardy-updates
[02:12] <twb> Bah.
[02:12] <oh_noes> twb: how would you then recommend for me to quickly deploy/install it on i386 hardy boxes here as part of an internal distribution?
[02:13] <twb> oh_noes: you maintain an SOE?
[02:13] <oh_noes> Compile and create my own i386 deb from deb-src?
[02:13] <oh_noes> Yes
[02:13] <twb> You should first try to use the .deb unchanged from, say, intrepid.
[02:14] <oh_noes> twb: ok i'll; give that a go
[02:14] <twb> That, or the version in hardy-backports or hardy-updates
[02:15] <twb> According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/open-vm-tools, that specific package is not available in any hardy native repo.
[02:16] <twb> So yeah, first try installing from the newer release unchanged, then if that doesn't work try apt-get build-dep open-vm-tools && apt-get source --build open-vm-tools to generate a binary rebuild for hardy.
[02:16] <twb> If *that* doesn't work, you'll need to do more investigation -- possibly changing versions in debian/control or similar
[02:18] <roxy09> Hi...somebody know about backup ldap server..i am trying to install a ldap backup server. I read the documentation but still i am not sure if i need to install everything like the main server and then some special configuration ?
[02:18] <twb> What is an ldap backup server?
[02:19] <twb> Do you mean an LDAP server that acts a slave to a master server, with failover to the slave if the master goes offline?
[02:19] <roxy09> yes
[02:19] <twb> Dunno about that, sorry.
[02:19] <twb> You can also try #openldap or similar.
[02:20] <oh_noes> am I drunk, or is there no way to download the deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/open-vm-tools ?
[02:21] <roxy09> sorry im new in the ofrum...how i can go there
[02:21] <roxy09> forum
[02:22] <roxy09> i got
[02:39] <qman__> oh_noes, click either "amd64" or "i386", with respect to your architecture
[02:39] <qman__> it's a little unintuitive, I'll agree, but you click those, not the package name
[03:51] <roxy09> hi, I am using my server as nat and there is some users that are download bad content from internet by bitorrent...somebody know how I can detect who was the user or how i can block bitorrent?
[04:05] <tsrk_> roxy09, you could probably block the bittorrent ports somehow (sorry, I can't say any more specifically than that, but you should be able to find documentation that explains how to block ports)
[04:14] <roxy09> the problmes i bittorrent use any port
[04:15] <twb> To block bittorrent you want to use the L7 iptables module.
[04:15] <twb> http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/
[04:16] <twb> !learn l7 is is a classifier for Linux's Netfilter that identifies packets based on application layer data. It can classify packets as [peer-to-peer data] regardless of port.
[04:30] <roxy09> sonf good thanks...i am reading that...also do you know some program that i can detect traffic and conection by IP address /user and give me some statitic information. I would like to detect who is doing a bad use from internet as we are having a lot of legal problems because that
[05:34] <roxy09> other question...i am installindg a wireless somebody know how do that to autentificate with my ldap server?
[05:58] <quizme> how can i tell if mysql is working ?
[06:10] <roxy09> hi ...i need to configure a print server with samba and use a ldap server ..somebody know how configura it?
[06:20] <roxy09> alo
[06:21] <roxy09> hola?
[06:22] <twb> !es
[06:39] <dpreacher> hello people, I need help with debugging an issue of shell logins taking quite a long time on ubuntu server 8.10 64-bit. it started all of a sudden in the last 1-2 weeks
[06:39] <dpreacher> any and every help is very much appreciated
[06:39] <dpreacher> so far things i tried
[06:39] <dpreacher> 1. tried to strace ssh since i primarily login via ssh.
[06:40] <dpreacher> 2. however found that local logins took that delay as well.
[06:41] <dpreacher> 3. also looked at dmesg found 560 lines with audit in them, hinting at inet6 which i believe is for ipv6 which we are not requiring...however this is not necessarily triggered at login
[06:42] <jmarsden> dpreacher: Did you try creating a new account and logging into that, so you have a brand new unmodified ~/.bashrc ?  Still slow?
[06:42] <dpreacher> checkin in a moment jmarsden,
[06:45] <jmarsden> dpreacher: OK.  If it is still slow, in that new account try    bash --login --noprofile    and see if that is slow.
[06:46] <dpreacher> jmarsden, can i try the 2nd suggestion before creating a new user
[06:46] <jmarsden> Sure, if you want :)
[06:48] <simplexio> dpreacher: i had that problem too.. fixed it removing Private directory mounting from pam.d
[06:48] <dpreacher> hmm...private directory was local path?
[06:48] <dpreacher> simplexio?
[06:50] <dpreacher> where do i check for nfs/cifs mounts? esp. the latter one?
[06:50] <simplexio> dpreacher: yes.
[06:51] <simplexio> i just removed it from pam.d and added line to motd to hint people use ecrypfs-private-mount
[06:52] <dpreacher> jmarsden,  bash --login --noprofile logged in absolutely instantly
[06:52] <dpreacher> im thinking /etc/bash.bashrc may be a possible suspect
[06:52] <jmarsden> dpreacher: OK.  Does    bas --login    do the same?
[06:52] <dpreacher> have to check that,
[06:53] <jmarsden> dpreacher: Make that    bash --login
[06:53] <dpreacher> bash --login ? without --noprofile? jmarsden
[06:53] <jmarsden> Right... if --noprofile makes the difference then the issue is something being done in the profile stuff...
[06:54] <jmarsden> Let's confirm that before looking at specific files :)
[06:54] <dpreacher> nope jmarsden, it went in quickly. i also put time command before bash and the times recorded were very very minutesimal
[06:55] <jmarsden> OK.  So either that is because whatever was taking time is already done for that user, and subsequent times it is therefore quick, or else it is not profile stuff that is the cause.
[06:57] <dpreacher> well i did su - user2 and then it took a real long time again, but running bash --login on that account also started another bash almost instantly
[06:57] <dpreacher> jmarsden
[06:58] <dpreacher> if i wanted to check if there are some unused nfs or cifs mounts, where'd i look, fstab itself? jmarsden
[06:58] <simplexio> mount tells allready mounted
[06:59] <jmarsden> Sounds like it is doing something that is slow "first time", but quick thereafter.  What is in anyway "unusual" about this machine?  What have you manually configured on it that might be worth investigating?
[07:01] <jmarsden> And yes, you can read /etc/fstab to see what network file systems are configured there.
[07:01] <dpreacher2> jmarsden, my net dropped did u get all 3 points?
[07:01] <jmarsden> No, I saw nothing at all...
stuff that are unusual on this machine:
1. RAID setup
2. 3 NICs. 2 ISP lines and 1 LAN
3. its the gateway and DNS for the intranet
[07:02] <psyferre> Hey folks, I'm having some trouble finding definite information anywhere online... if I install 64bit ubuntu, do I need to do anything special to make sure I install 64bit mysql?
[07:02] <dpreacher2> i dunno what else to include. nothing related to bash or logins was configured or installed jmarsden
[07:02] <psyferre> Or will apt get install mysql-server just automatically pull down the 64 bit package?
[07:03] <jmarsden> dpreacher2: Have you checked that DNS is working well, and that the machine can look up its own name quickly?
[07:03] <jmarsden> psyferre: Do nothing special, apt-get is smart enough to know what architecture your machine is.
[07:03] <psyferre> jmarsden: awesome... thanks
[07:03] <jmarsden> No problem.
[07:03] <dpreacher2> i can access the website on the server using the fqdn of the ubuntu server machine
[07:05] <jmarsden> I'm guessing... long delays can be DNS related and you have a more complex than usual network setup...
[07:06] <dpreacher3> hello again
[07:07] <dpreacher3> whoa /me
[07:07] <dpreacher3> jmarsden i need to step out for a while...will come back soon and resume this.
[07:07] <dpreacher3> thanks for your help and time
[07:07] <dpreacher3> thanks simplexio as well
[07:07] <jmarsden> OK... 11pm here... I may not may not be here much longer... need to sleep sometime :)
[07:34] <altf2o> just out of curiosity, has anyone actually gotten Samba + LDAP working w/ the guides? Or damn near anything available on google?
[08:05] <roxy09> Hello again, somebody know how i can detect quantity of downloading by IP?
[08:08] <twb> $ /sbin/ipconfig eth0 ==> [...] RX bytes:84614245 (80.6 MiB)  TX bytes:5748325 (5.4 MiB)
[08:08] <twb> Of course, that wraps around (rests to zero) at some point
[08:21] <_ruben> twb: ipconfig is a windows command ;)
[08:21] <twb> Sorry, I always get p and f backwards.
[08:28] <_ruben> ;)
[08:46] <roxy09> Hi sorry i mean get some log that shows me about traffic or quantity donwloaded by Ip or user?
[08:53] <_ruben> roxy09: one solution would be to use pmacctd .. tho there's several alternatives as well
[09:04] <jmarsden> roxy09: ntop might be worth a look (web interface rather than a log file)
[09:35] <chronodekar> when configuring a server with 8GB of RAM, how much can be allocated for virtualization ?
[09:38] <twb> All of it
[09:39] <dayo> i need to set up an ssh server, so that a user can remotely access his home dir. this is my network setup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/223359/  i'm thinking i need to connect the external interface of my ssh server to the router, and the internal to the switch? i've never setup an ssh server before, so i need some advice, please.
[09:44] <twb> dayo: you have a application router, and a separate Ubuntu server?
[09:44] <twb> dayo: that is, you are not running Ubuntu on your router?
[09:45] <dayo> twb: correct. cisco 1800 router, and my ubuntu server hooked up to it, via router's switch
[09:45] <twb> Does your router do NAT?
[09:46] <twb> i.e. does your Ubuntu server already have a public IP address on the internet?
[09:49] <dayo> twb: yes, it has a public and a private IP
[09:52] <twb> Then all you need do is install openssh-server
[11:03] <thefish> anyone know of any small (1u) hardware with about 4 nics to run JEOS/iptables/openvpn on?
[11:05] <andol> thefish: Regarding small hardware with 4 nics perhap a soekris might be a solution? Besides that, not really sure how well JEOS applies to a non-virtual machine.
[11:06] <thefish> i really like that it doesnt install any other kaka on the box, ive been running quite a few on steel with no issues
[11:06] <thefish> will check out soekris, thanks
[11:15] <error404notfound> I had Intrepid and i upgraded to jaunty. Now i get "You are running a kernel from Ubuntu Intrepid.  Ksplice Uptrack for. Ubuntu only supports kernels from Ubuntu Jaunty." Any idea how to fix it?
[11:17] <error404notfound> how can i upgrade to latest kernel?
[11:27] <ogra> error404notfound, seems you didnt properly upgrade, did you use the documented upgrade procedure ?
[11:27] <error404notfound> ogra, i just did a dist-upgrade to keep intrepid to latest and then i change repo to that of jaunty and did a dist-upgrade again.
[11:28] <ogra> error404notfound, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[11:28] <ogra> at the bottom
[11:28] <error404notfound> ahan... i see...
[11:28] <error404notfound> lemme check
[11:30] <error404notfound> ogra, what can i do now?
[11:30] <error404notfound> the do-release-upgrade says that there are no new upgrades
[11:34] <error404notfound> ogra, there?
[11:36] <error404notfound> anyone else here who could help me a badly-upgraded jaunty?
[11:47] <alexm> error404notfound: i'd take a look at what do-release-upgrade does and see if there's some package missing in your system
[11:49] <error404notfound> its python and i dont know much python
[11:56] <alexm> since it seems the problem is only with the kernel, make sure you have jaunty kernel installed, take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/linux-image
[11:57] <alexm> do you have a server install?
[11:58] <alexm> if so, make sure you have package linux-image-server installed, it should bring all the other dependencies
[12:07] <error404notfound> alexm, i am using a vps on xen
[12:08] <alexm> so you upgraded the domU from intrepid to jaunty, is that right?
[12:10] <rose_> hello everyone...I need to install one samba print server but i need to authetificate with another ldap server. I just tried but doesn't work..I installed nss and pam, but still i dont know what i must to put in the configuration
[12:14] <rose_> ==#
[12:15] <alexm> error404notfound: are both them dom0 and the domU running jaunty?
[12:15] <alexm> s/both them/both the/
[12:15] <error404notfound> nope, dom0 is not even ubuntu , i doubt
[12:19] <alexm> but do you know which kernel is running dom0? both dom0 and domU use the same kernel version usually
[12:21] <alexm> rose_: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-ldap.html
[12:22] <alexm> but note that it's the server guide for jaunty
[12:27] <error404notfound> alexm, any idea about: http://pastebin.com/m771347f5 ?
[12:31] <alexm> since uptrack is broken if fails too when removing it
[12:31] <error404notfound> any workarounds?
[12:32] <alexm> trying fixing broken packages first, apt-get install -f
[12:32] <alexm> without any other option
[12:33] <error404notfound> did...
[12:33] <error404notfound> again tried to uninstall and got same thing
[12:36] <error404notfound> alexm, btw dom0 uses the xen.org kernel.  it's a heavily modified 2.6.18-8
[12:37] <alexm> that's the problem then, jaunty provides 2.6.28
[12:39] <error404notfound> 2 major issues then: 1. Kernel, 2. Ksplice, i would say lets solev 2 first and then 1 as i am fine with 2.6.27 for now
[12:39] <alexm> anyway, are you sure you can run ksplice on a domU?
[12:40] <error404notfound> i want to uninstall it, dont need it...
[12:40] <alexm> ok then
[12:41] <alexm> so the problem is the broken uptrack, right?
[12:41] <alexm> dif the apt-get install -f do or say something?
[12:42] <error404notfound> it installed ksplice back and some other stuff...
[12:46] <\sh> hmm.....25x (BL465C [2x QUAD Opterons 2.7GHz, 32GB, 2x146GB SAS] * stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 8589934592) == max load of 39 ==> no io left for network ==> no io left for output ==> waiting for self destruction
[12:47] <alexm> so now you can try to remove ksplice again
[12:47] <\sh> HP BL7000C enclosure reports 4KW power consumption...that's green IT ;)
[12:53] <error404notfound> alexm, same issues
[12:55] <alexm> i haven't been able to find uptrack package in ubuntu, and it seems a dependency of ksplice, so try to dpkg -r uptrack ksplice and see if you get more details of the problem
[12:57] <error404notfound> alexm, http://pastebin.com/m15325bc
[13:03] <alexm> it seems that the install/remove hooks test the kernel, you'll have to get around them
[13:04] <alexm> find those hooks in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[13:05] <alexm> they should be named after the package, i.e. uptrack* and ksplice*
[13:05] <alexm> grep "You are running a kernel from Ubuntu Intrepid" /var/lib/dpkg/{uptrack,ksplice}*
[13:06] <alexm> then find the place where the test is run and comment it
[13:06] <alexm> finally, try to remove those packages again
[13:07] <alexm> sorry, i forgot /info/ in the grep above
[13:07] <alexm> grep "You are running a kernel from Ubuntu Intrepid" /var/lib/dpkg/info/{uptrack,ksplice}*
[13:08] <error404notfound> nothing comes up
[13:13] <alexm> then search for "You are running a kernel" only
[13:14] <error404notfound> nope, nothing.... i am also getting the same message in a cron every now and then
[13:14] <error404notfound> even did grep "You are running" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[13:16] <alexm> ok, please do... ls /var/lib/dpkg/{uptrack,ksplice}*
[13:18] <error404notfound> http://pastebin.com/m16769fe1
[13:20] <error404notfound> in cron.d i have uptrack which is http://pastebin.com/mc23f3d1 and it prints the same output as at the install time
[13:21] <alexm> can you show me /var/lib/dpkg/info/uptrack.prerm ?
[13:22] <error404notfound> http://pastebin.com/m56b32bce
[13:23] <error404notfound> moreover like the cron: http://pastebin.com/m4bee95cb
[13:24] <alexm> try running "uptrack-remove --all -y --no-network" and see if the message about intrepid kernel appears?
[13:25] <error404notfound> damn, yes..
[13:25] <error404notfound> commenting it
[13:26] <alexm> but if you comment it out, maybe there will be some files left in the system
[13:26] <alexm> it's up to you
[13:26] <alexm> either you try to find out what uptrack-remove is doing or comment it on the .prerm
[13:26] <error404notfound> but there is no work around, is there?
[13:27] <error404notfound> btw diid you refer t http://pastebin.com/m368fe1a8 ?
[13:27] <alexm> yes
[13:28] <error404notfound> i have found the script that executes on uptrack-remove
[13:29] <rose_> hi please...somebody can helo me...I need to install one samba print server but i need to authetificate with another ldap server. I just tried but doesn't work..I installed nss and pam, but still i dont know what i must to put in the configuration
[13:30] <error404notfound> alexm, how much of a good idea is to run unattended-upgrades or ksplice with autoinstall?
[13:31] <alexm> i know nothing about ksplice, sorry
[13:36] <rose_> or how I can add a domain member server to PDC?
[14:31] <resno> What do I use to parse apache_logs, to get stats on something?
[14:33] <andol> resno: I kind of like to use awstats.
[14:34] <resno> andol: how do i get awstats to go through my stats? I have never done this before....
[14:35] <resno> I need stats on a specific page.
[14:47] <shivek> Hi everyone ^^D
[14:48] <resno> hello
[14:50] <shivek> Any one has anproblem ?
[14:50] <benc> by default does the time on ubuntu server syncing from the web?
[14:54] <resno> oh, i have a logs, that i want to get stats off of. is installing awstats and running that the best way?
[15:10] <Steve[mbp]> Morning Everyone!
[16:05] <yann2> hi... ok not too sure if this is the best place to ask for this, please guide me if it's not
[16:06] <yann2> I am setting up a CUPS print server for our office - and wanted to know if these drivers: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0031040.asp  were packaged  - and if not, what the steps would be to get them packaged?
[16:06] <yann2> I couldnt find any package that contained those - and it's all GPL
[16:14] <_ruben> yann2: #ubuntu-motu would be a good start i think
[17:06] <shivek> Hi everyone ^^D
[17:41] <|404NotFound|> i have accidently set www-data:www-data to be owner of /var. Any solution to this stupid mistake of mine?
[17:42] <error404notfound> anyone, please? i am going through really bad mental state due to this disasterous mistake...
[17:43] <resno> change the owner
[17:43] <error404notfound> resno, i dont know which directory had which
[17:43] <error404notfound> i did it recursively :'(
[17:44] <error404notfound> fuck up the whole server...
[17:44] <error404notfound> :'(
[17:44]  * error404notfound is thinking of possible ways to suicide...
[17:46] <Jeeves_> error404notfound: Do you have a window?
[17:47] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, window?
[17:47] <Jeeves_> Yes, you know. In the wall.
[17:47] <Jeeves_> To look outside, or into another room.
[17:47] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, yes...
[17:47] <Jeeves_> Make a hole in it
[17:47] <error404notfound> why?
[17:47] <Jeeves_> stick your head through it
[17:47] <Jeeves_> let youselve fall into the glass
[17:47] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, For God's sake....
[17:48] <Jeeves_> 18:44  * error404notfound is thinking of possible ways to suicide...
[17:48] <resno> !topic
[17:48] <resno> !ot
[17:48] <Jeeves_> Not even jokes are allowed
[17:48] <Jeeves_> pff
[17:49] <error404notfound> so do i have to do it all the way up, i had no backups, i spent a whole week in setting up this server from scratch using a lot of guides...
[17:49] <error404notfound> Jeeves_, thanks, that really helped...
[17:52] <error404notfound> so is there a solution or?
[18:05] <howie> anyone know what : Grub loading, please wait..... Error 18.   means?
[18:07] <resno> howie: http://tinyurl.com/m954qx
[18:08] <howie> sweet
[18:09] <resno> howie: does that help you along?
[18:10] <howie> more then i possibly thought.... lmgty is awesome...
[18:12] <resno> ive been waiting for the perfect time to use it
[18:13] <howie> that was great i felt like i got trout slapped for the first time..
[18:31] <jtimberman> mathiaz: ping
[19:51] <mathiaz> jtimberman: hey
[19:52] <axisys> how do I migrate to software raid 1 without resintalling the OS ? i have not see a complete once for newer ubuntu or debian.. like mkinitrd should be replaced by mkinitramfs and other small details.. looking for a complete how to for newer ubuntu
[20:07] <ahasenack> any idea why /dev/kvm is not created with group 'kvm'? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/223781/
[20:07] <ahasenack> the udev rule seems ok
[20:08] <ahasenack> ah, an "/etc/init.d/udev reload" was missing
[20:08] <ivoks> hm...
[20:08] <ivoks> :)
[20:08] <ahasenack> yeah, I just installed the kvm package
[20:08] <ahasenack> seems it doesn't reload udev in the end, but loads the module anyway
[20:17] <MrGlass> hi
[20:17] <MrGlass> how do i install pdo/pdo_mysql?
[20:23] <hocuspocus> can anyone tell me how to install my printer from the installation cd to ubuntu?
[20:26] <laytone> Does anyone have a good recomendation for a Web Hosting Panel application that will run on the latest ubuntu server?
[20:26] <resno> laytone: im partial to cpanel..
[20:27] <laytone> cpanel will only run on a Red Hat or CentOS server,  that was my first choice as well
[20:28] <laytone> Any Other Ideas?
[20:30] <resno> laytone: let me google it
[20:31] <laytone> resno:  thank you but you really dont have to spend time doing research for me.  I was comming here to ask anyone if they had any ideas from experience.  :)
[20:31] <resno> laytone: i was curious for myself. as i love ubuntu.
[20:32] <resno> i know there ispconfig...
[20:33] <resno> laytone: here is a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294169
[20:33] <resno> Plesk is a popular one
[20:33] <laytone> I was looking into plesk and they support ubuntu up to version 8.04 is there any chance it would run in the newer 9.x
[20:34] <laytone> resno: thank you for that link btw I will look it over now
[20:41] <laytone> resno: I'm thinking webmin might be the way to go
[20:42] <resno> laytone: cool, glad it was helpful.
[20:42] <resno> laytone: dont run a ubunut server, but will soon. want to make it can keep up with centos and others
[20:45] <laytone> resno: Yes it seems like everything is supported by centos, red hat and freebsd.  Thanks for your help though
[21:14] <abel408> Hello everyone! My Ubuntu server running KVM has been crashing as of late. About 3 times a day. It is usaully rock solid. Are there any logs I can check?
[21:15] <abel408> The server actually still has power and fans are spinning, but it appears to be dead. Monitor doesn't show anything either
[21:19] <pwnguin> automatic suspend?
[21:20] <pwnguin> abel408: is the host server "crashing", or the virtual hosts?
[21:20] <abel408> The host
[21:21] <pwnguin> got a serial cable handy?
[21:21] <abel408> I do...
[21:22] <pwnguin> i wonder if theres a way to get the kernel to dump the ringbuffer to console
[21:25] <pwnguin> but basically, you can hook up to the serial console and see what sort of messages go across it
[21:25] <abel408> Do you think it's software or hardware?
[21:25] <pwnguin> i guess i should ask
[21:25] <pwnguin> by kvm you mean kernel virtual machine?
[21:26] <abel408> yea
[21:26] <pwnguin> my guess would be software
[21:29] <pwnguin> abel408: obviously you can check the stuff in /var/log, but the most interesting stuff is in dmesg
[21:29] <pwnguin> and that's stored in kernel RAM, and won't survive a reboot
[21:30] <abel408> yea... Nothings in the logs
[21:30] <pwnguin> it should also be printed out to serial console, which you can hook up to with minicom (or your favorite remote console logger)
[21:33] <abel408> Yea I might do that and leave it running over night. I'm wondering if this is what I'm looking for: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/CrashdumpRecipe
[22:54] <jhujhiti> does anyone have any idea if it's possible to migrate a kvm machine into a qemu one? preferrably live migration.
[22:55] <jhujhiti> i have a pre-svm opteron driving me nuts
[23:10] <bsmith> I recently installed ubuntu server 8.04 LTS on a system that previously had 9.04 server on it.  I installed the OS from unetbootin for an .iso to a usb.  I received an error 21:
[23:14] <bsmith> Can anyone help me
[23:24] <bsmith> Can anyone help me
[23:35] <bsmith> Can anyone help me
[23:37] <soren> bsmith: The easiest fix is to reinstall from a real CD.
[23:37] <bsmith> Don't have a sata cdrom
[23:38] <soren> bsmith: I've heard of people with similar problems when isntalling from USB.
[23:38] <bsmith> soren:Did they fix it without a cdrom drive
[23:38] <soren> bsmith: I believe it's because the installer gets confused by the USB drive (thinking it's the first hard drive, and the real hard drive is the second drive).
[23:39] <soren> This is definitely fixed in 9.04. Why did you downgrade?
[23:39] <bsmith> soren: makes sense, is there a solution
[23:39] <soren> bsmith: Yes. Install from a CD or a newer version of Ubuntu. Or fix grub afterwards.
[23:40] <soren> The first two options are simple. The latter less so if you're not too familiar with grub.
[23:40] <bsmith> I downgraded because I couldn't get any of the media serving software to work properly.  I tried jinzora, ampache, gnump3d, I found directions that seemed promising for 8.04 thought the downgrade would be easy
[23:40] <bsmith> Can you elaborate on the last one "fix grub afterwards"
[23:44] <bsmith> soren: Can you elaborate on the last one "fix grub afterwards"