[01:34] <eekfonky> I'm keen to help testing in Jaunty, how do I help?
[03:57] <sean5446> hey im trying to install ubuntu and 8.04 gives me busybox, 9.04 goes to a black screen with blinking white cursor
[07:29] <ara> good morning all!
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[14:07] <davmor3> hello
[14:07] <davmor2> davmor3: that seems to work
[14:07] <davmor2> hello
[14:48] <davmor2> morning cgregan
[14:51] <cgregan> davmor2: good morning!
[14:53] <davmor2> cgregan: karmic has flashing lights on the wifi switch on the acer aspire one :)  It made me a saddeningly happy bunny
[14:54] <cgregan> hehe
[14:54] <cgregan> My wifi light blinked into existence when I updated too
[14:54] <fader_> Sheesh.  Mine has been blinking nonstop since Jaunty.
[14:55]  * fader_ mutters something about "newbies".
[14:55]  * davmor2 bitch slaps fader_ while he isn't lookin' :P
[14:56] <fader_> Hmm, maybe I do like davmor3 better than davmor2...
[14:56] <fader_> sudo apt-get purge davmor2
[14:57] <davmor2> fader_: check out the info on davmor3
[14:57] <davmor2> fader_: real name should tickle you
[14:57] <fader_> Heh, 'evil twin' indeed.  I don't think there's a 'good twin' in there :)
[14:58] <fader_> Ah!  I get it... you're actually triplets!  davmor1 was the good one!
[14:58]  * davmor3 kicks fader_ in the nuts for insinuating that davmor2 isn't the good twin
[14:58] <fader_> Hehe... I'm going to be in the hospital by the time this day is over
[14:59]  * davmor3 slowly reverses the car over fader_ while he's rolling on the floor 
[15:00] <fader_> You've been taking lessons from my ex, haven't you?
[15:01] <davmor3> no current ;)
[15:02] <fader_> Heh
[15:05] <davmor3> just teasing dude no need to get that confused :)
[15:08] <fader_> Nah, no worries :)  I just decided not to escalate it by calling your bluff and shipping my Significant Other over to you to teach you a lesson ;)
[16:25] <melissawm> hello!
[16:27] <davmor2> hello
[16:33] <melissawm> i'd really like to join karmic testing, but i have some questions
[16:33] <melissawm> can you guys help me? :P
[16:36] <davmor2> melissawm: fire away
[16:39] <melissawm> ok first question
[16:40] <melissawm> i have /home in a separate partition
[16:40] <melissawm> if i install karmic in another / partition, and use the same /home, will i ruin all my config files? (i suspect yes, but...)
[16:43] <fader_> melissawm: 'ruin' is a strong word, but they will get used and might be updated by newer versions of the software
[16:43] <melissawm> as long as there are no show stoppers (flash stops working in both versions or all my plasma gets ruined in jaunty by a bad update) i'm ok with that...
[16:43] <fader_> One way to work around that is to use a different username on your karmic install, or to make a backup of your /home directory
[16:44] <melissawm> i should mention i'm using kubuntu
[16:44] <fader_> I can't make any promises, as it is still under development :)  But I haven't had any showstoppers like that moving from jaunty to karmic
[16:44] <melissawm> ok thanks for that :)
[16:44] <fader_> (Backups are always a good idea anyway :) )
[16:45] <melissawm> yes i do have 35 different backups as i'm a backup-paranoid lol
[16:45] <fader_> Perfect! :D
[16:45] <melissawm> second question: are there any serious issues currently with 64-bit?
[16:46] <fader_> 64-bit has been stable for me and I don't recall hearing about any showstoppers with it.
[16:46] <fader_> The big thing to consider there is if you have any proprietary software that is 32-bit.  Anything OSS is likely to be fine.
[16:46] <davmor2> 64 bit is fine.  kubuntu has some issues minor but annoying
[16:47] <melissawm> can you give me an example?
[16:47] <melissawm> no, i'm ok... i think the only major thing i need to have is matlab, and that only depends on java so if java is ok, i should be fine
[16:48] <davmor2> arora crashes from time to time when using flash
[16:48] <davmor2> there are others
[16:49] <melissawm> ok... so it might be better to keep a jaunty install in case anything truly bad happens
[16:49] <davmor2> before you jump in and add a / partition you might want to think about trying it in vm first to be sure that it does everything you need it too
[16:49] <melissawm> hm good idea, hadn't thought about that
[16:50] <melissawm> is there a how to or should i just install it in virtualbox or something?
[16:54] <fader_> I don't know of any specific howtos... it should be pretty straightforward if you know how to use virtualbox already
[16:54] <melissawm> ok
[16:54] <fader_> With the added benefit that you don't have to burn a CD to test it, as virtualbox can read the ISO image :)
[16:58] <melissawm> sure..
[16:58] <melissawm> ok
[16:58] <melissawm> i guess that's what i wanted to know.. thanks a lot :)
[16:58] <fader_> melissawm: No problem... good luck :)
[16:58] <fader_> Remember to file bugs if you find problems ;)
[16:59] <melissawm> sure!
[16:59] <davmor2> fader_: if? don't you mean when
[16:59] <melissawm> i'll be back _when_ i have problems :P
[16:59] <fader_> davmor2: Nah, I'm pretty sure they got the last one yesterday.
[16:59] <melissawm> lol
[17:00] <sean5446> hey is it bad if i install ubuntu on an extended partition?
[17:00] <fader_> melissawm: Great, testers are always welcome :)
[17:00] <melissawm> ok! see you around guys, have a nice day/night
[17:00] <davmor2> fader_: is that the fragrant smell of the farm outside or bulls**t that your speaking I can smell ;)
[17:00] <fader_> sean5446: Nope, extended partitions should be fine.  I believe I heard somewhere that some older BIOSes have trouble booting from them but I've never had that happen to me
[17:01] <sean5446> ok thanks
[17:01] <fader_> davmor2: Oh behave :P
[17:05] <davmor2> fader_: What? I'm only saying what everyone else was wishing they'd got in first :)
[17:07] <fader_> ... can't let him see me cry... :'(
[17:08]  * davmor2 hugs fader_ to cheer him up, well that or scare the crap out of him so he stops crying
[17:12] <davmor2> fader_: hows the automated stuff going dude?
[17:13] <fader_> davmor2: Shaky at the moment... one of the tests is broken and preventing us from getting results.  But cr3 is all over it, so I have faith that we'll have it working again soon :)
[17:14] <davmor2> :(
[17:15]  * davmor2 thinks he might run out of time to test and then it'll all be on fader_'s shoulders ;)
[17:16] <fader_> My shoulders are weak
[17:49] <davmor2> fader_: can you try something quick for me please?  In a fresh karmic goto rhythmbox and click on magnatune select blind divine.  then click on a track.  It should throw up codec search but then actually look for gstreamer_input rather than mp3 I think is the bug
[17:50] <fader_> davmor2: Sure, give me a minute and I'll verify
[17:50] <davmor2> thanks
[17:56] <fader_> "The requested plugins are: Gstreamer element input-selector"
[17:56] <fader_> Yeah, seeing that here as well
[17:58] <sbeattie> davmor2: I'm seeing that post-upgrade as well.
[17:59]  * sbeattie went insane and upgraded his laptop to karmic last night
[17:59] <sbeattie> davmor2: also, can you try any radio streams? They're not working at all for me.
[17:59]  * davmor2 slaps sbeattie then himself for remembering he's already done his netbook :)
[18:01] <davmor2> sbeattie: I get the same thing input-selector so it's finding the streams if that helps
[18:01] <davmor2> tea time
[18:01] <davmor2> back soon
[18:02] <sbeattie> davmor2: hrm, .pls files aren't understood here, I get a "couldn't determine type of stream" error
[18:03] <sbeattie> The input thing I find if I try playing a secons song, it works.
[18:06] <fader_> sbeattie: Streaming works for me...
[18:07] <fader_> At least on my laptop, which already has the MP3 codec
[18:09] <sbeattie> fader_: can you try playing http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/listen.pls ?
[18:10] <fader_> sbeattie: Works for me when added to Rhythmbox as a new radio station
[18:11] <sbeattie> hrm, I deleted it and re-added and it still didn't work. I can play mp3s locally, and if I add http://kexp-mp3-128k.cac.washington.edu:8000/ (the url inside of the listen.pls file) it plays that as well.
[18:12] <fader_> sbeattie: Did you upgrade to karmic or wipe and install?
[18:12] <sbeattie> upgrade. wipe and install is for wusses.
[18:13] <fader_> Heh :)
[18:13] <sbeattie> aka sane people.
[18:13] <fader_> That's the same thing I did though
[18:14] <fader_> Though I haven't done an apt-get upgrade in probably 3-4 days
[18:15] <fader_> Hmm, looks like my gstreamer* and rhythmbox are up to date though
[18:17] <davmor2> fader_: so it's just your taste in music that isn't then just like me :)
[18:19] <fader_> davmor2: My taste in music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Psfn6iOfS8
[18:19] <fader_> (Which is admittedly less likely to be as funny to those outside of the US)
[18:21] <davmor2> fader_: I stand by my earlier comment weirdo
[18:36] <sbeattie> I'm partial to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3CmXGKXOmk but a UK resident like davmor2 might appreciate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1vwKZiDsY4 (all in the interests of exercising the flash plugin of course :-) )
[18:45] <davmor2> sbeattie, fader_: how do these guys have the time to put things like that together?
[18:54] <fader_> Who knew Tony Blair could sing?
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[22:45] <davmor2> fader_: I'm about to make you a very happy bunny.  I'm left with one job tomorrow at 18:30 now :)
[22:45] <fader_> davmor2: \o/
[22:45] <fader_> :P
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