[00:48] <mbiebl> PuffTheMagic: 0.6 has a dbus interface
[00:48] <mbiebl> dbus bindings is something slightly different :-)
[01:53] <PuffTheMagic> is it possible to build upstart with out dbus or does it strictly rely on it
[02:03] <mbiebl> libdbus is used for the internal ipc
[02:03] <mbiebl> it's not possible to build without it
[03:51] <PuffTheMagic> ok so the Palm Pre uses upstart for init... but I dont see anything upstart related in /etc/dbus-1/*.d/
[03:51] <PuffTheMagic> can someone help me get get my userland setup so I can talk to upstart from another program
[05:00]  * JamesB192 suposes it might be using 0.3.x or 0.5.x in all likelyhood in which case no dbus support.
[05:00]  * JamesB192 has not read anything about it.
[09:50] <Keybuk> PuffTheMagic: as far as I know, the Palm Pre uses Upstart 0.3.8
[14:49] <PuffTheMagic> damn... so pre dbus
[14:49] <Keybuk> yeah, it's a couple of years old
[14:49] <Keybuk> haven't been able to get through to any of the Palm webOS developers
[14:52] <sadmac> ahh, take-it-and-go open source. Not just for the BSD license any more!
[16:20]  * ion posted to http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/123658 as well
[16:24] <Stevee> hello
[16:24] <Stevee> i'm one of the developers of a linux based firewall distribution
[16:25] <Stevee> and we want to replace sysvinit with upstart in our next version
[16:26] <Stevee> i've compiled upstart like the tutorial on the upstart webpage
[16:27] <Stevee> but it doesn't work correctly
[16:27] <Stevee> at first rcS is starting, and also the scripts
[16:28] <Stevee> but at the switch to the runlevel the system is freazing
[16:29] <Stevee> when i use init=/bin/bash and use /sbin/init or /sbin/telinit plus runlevel i always get the same error message
[16:29] <Stevee> Failed to connect to socket /come/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[16:31] <Stevee> oh i'm sorry the error message is
[16:31] <Stevee> Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[16:33] <plautrba> Stevee: do you have any tty jobs? 
[16:34] <Stevee> yes i have tty jobs for upstart
[16:34] <Stevee> but can i use the example scripts from 3.11 also in 6.1 ?
[16:37] <plautrba> almost yes but it has to be in /etc/init/with .conf suffix
[16:37] <plautrba> i've started with tty9.conf with "start on startup"
[16:37] <Stevee> oh, i miss the .conf suffix
[16:38] <Stevee> okay, maybe thats the problem
[16:52] <Stevee> mhm, made no difference
[16:52] <Stevee> the system feezed again
[16:52] <Stevee> after the execution of all rcS scripts
[16:53] <mbiebl> Stevee: which version of upstart ?
[16:53] <Stevee> the newest one 0.6.1
[16:53] <mbiebl> could you pastebin the jobs files in /etc/init/*.conf
[16:54] <Stevee> yes, no probelm
[16:54] <mbiebl> Stevee: you can also try to run upstart in debug mode
[16:54] <Stevee> just a  moment
[16:54] <mbiebl> add "--debug" to the kernel command line
[16:54] <Stevee> mhm, how i chan do that
[16:54] <mbiebl> depends on the boot loader
[16:54] <mbiebl> with grub it's pretty easy
[16:55] <Stevee> after init=/sbin/init --debug ?
[16:56] <mbiebl> yeah
[17:07] <Stevee> a question only one job can be at startup or ?
[17:08] <Keybuk> as many as you want
[17:57] <plautrba> Stevee: anotherproblem i had was that in fedore is not /etc/init.d/rc but  /etc/rc.d/rc
[17:57] <plautrba> Stevee: it's called from rc.conf
[17:58] <Stevee> yes that was my fitst problem
[17:59] <Stevee> in our distribution we also have no /etc/init.d/rcS
[17:59] <Stevee> so i had to change to exec /etc/init.d/rc S in the jobfiles
[18:02] <plautrba> /etc/init.d/rcS is for me /ert/rc.sysinit
[18:14] <Stevee> okay, now i can switch between the tty
[18:14] <Stevee> on tty1 is the boot process, but its freezed again
[18:15] <Stevee> on tty2 to tty6 i got a login promt
[18:38] <Stevee> do i need a jobfile for the runlevels ?
[18:40] <sadmac> Stevee: if you want to use them for anything
[18:40] <sadmac> Stevee: should be possible to have one job file cover them all now.
[18:41] <Stevee> like the rc.conf in the current ubuntu developement version ?
[18:42] <Stevee> karmic ?
[19:01] <Stevee> okay, once again, all scripts from rcS are finished
[19:01] <Stevee> but no runlevel change
[19:01] <Stevee> but i've got 6 tty's
[19:02] <sadmac> Stevee: what aren't you seeing in terms of runlevel change?
[19:04] <Stevee> the problem is nothing
[19:05] <Stevee> i got the echo from the last rcS script
[19:05] <Stevee> and than nothing on the tty1
[19:05] <sadmac> hm
[19:05] <Stevee> on the other tty's i got a login promt
[19:22] <Stevee> how can exec /etc/sulogin on tty2 or an other tty ?
[19:23] <sadmac> don't think you can
[19:23] <Stevee> mhm
[19:23] <Stevee> thats bad
[19:23] <sadmac> why would you?
[19:23] <Stevee> to get into the test system
[19:24] <Stevee> at it is alpha 2
[19:25] <Stevee> on other tty's i got a login promt but we have no users and passwords at the moment
[21:18] <_|ms|_> hi guys
[21:20] <_|ms|_> I need some help with the integration of upstart
[21:25] <sadmac> go ahead
[21:25] <_|ms|_> I don't want to use the compat sysv mode :D
[21:25] <_|ms|_> and I'm searching for some advice how to do the "new" mode :D
[21:25] <_|ms|_> there are only very few example scripts...
[21:27] <sadmac> well there's not too much of a set way of doing it. You can look at what ubuntu has on launchpad
[21:27] <_|ms|_> I already have :D
[21:27] <_|ms|_> well, what I already have done:
[21:27] <_|ms|_> ./configure ... && make && make install
[21:28] <_|ms|_> and now, do I only have to put the *.conf files to /etc/init?
[21:28] <_|ms|_> seems too easy to me :D