[00:08] the group fnordistus already exists [00:11] alteregoa: 'addgroup fnordistus admin' ? [00:11] alteregoa, fails at instructions :p [00:12] done [00:12] yay :) [00:12] lol i forgot to read something [00:14] i hate those acer displays they are weird to read [00:16] many thanks [00:26] is it me or is notify-osd font size SMALLER? [00:50] BUGabundo: I think the whole notification style changed [00:50] the bars also got thinner [00:50] what bars? [00:51] err... progress... I mean the ones for brightness/sound/... level [00:52] meters [00:52] cwillu_clone: thx :) [00:56] * BUGabundo tests [00:56] ohh its lonnnnnggggeerrrrrr [00:57] * BUGabundo has no bright OSD [00:58] just got an email from the company that signs my paycheck (got recipt for it too, btw) telling me, I need to make 300KMs TOMORROW for medical exams... yeah right [00:59] BUGabundo, can I sign your paycheck? [01:00] its bank wired :) [01:00] unless you do a MITM [01:00] I'm ok with it [01:02] Ugh, yeah, now it's thin and ugly. [01:02] TOOOOOO thin. [01:03] Like somebody stuck it in a taffy puller. [01:03] What is it with all these supposed improvements that actually suck? =þ (insert update-manager rant here.) [01:03] DanaG, I have a mental image of you yelling at kids to get off your lawn (which is impressive seeing as I have no idea what you look like :p) [01:03] is there support for mos7703? [01:04] https://launchpad.net/~danagoyette [01:04] Old pic, but still about the same. [01:04] now try them WITHOUT composit [01:04] even uglier [01:05] lool [01:05] plus with mouse over its very .....dont even know how to descrive [01:05] * BUGabundo looks [01:06] ohh it's a pimple kid [01:06] :)) [01:06] DanaG, in my mental image your eyes were open a bit wider:p, but aside from that [01:06] anyways, back to on-topic things :p [01:06] it's amazing how we create a mental image about all people with who we talk online [01:06] DanaGoyette@gmail.com@talk.google.com [01:06] this is false... doesn't work LOL [01:06] the XMPP JID is just email address [01:06] no need for server [01:07] its FEDERATED [01:07] Bmw1000c: true [01:07] and you look nothing like it [01:07] eheh [01:07] loool [01:07] Well, last time I set up gtalk, it wanted domain and server. [01:07] And they're not the same. [01:07] :P neither you did [01:07] see how I mixed up you and your friend? [01:07] mos technologies, commodore64 [01:07] alteregox: OT [01:07] "connect server" is talk.google.com. [01:07] oho yeah ahah [01:07] * BUGabundo like we weren't :) [01:08] DanaG: you can conect to any XMPP server [01:08] XMPP is federated [01:08] huh? goauld.com? [01:09] Can't say I know what a JID is, either. [01:10] =þ [01:10] oh, and that pic is about 4 years old, after all. [01:10] Perhaps I should take a new one. [01:11] A_CR $0D === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [01:21] Our edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, [01:21] ugh, notify-osd is now 7.5cm wide. [01:22] true [01:22] And about 1.8 tall. [01:23] * cwillu_clone thinks _DanaG_ os 7.5 cm wide, and about 1.8 tall [01:23] s/os/is/ [01:23] ehe [01:23] anyone who is testing karmic... can you cause a notification bubble to appear and hover over the taskbar and see if the bubble goes fuzzy [01:28] i think you have to hover over the bubble as you go to the taskbet [01:28] taskbar* [02:38] can anyone help me remove a broken package? http://pastebin.ca/1502668 [02:46] tanath: try to re-install it first? [02:47] somewhere before the selinux initscript was removed so now it fails to stop the daemon [02:48] you can try 'sudo touch /etc/init.d/selinux' [02:51] /usr/sbin/update-selinux-policy: 160: /etc/init.d/selinux: not found [02:51] dpkg: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127 [02:51] on reinstalling [02:52] hggdh, tried that before, and it says permission denied on executing. i think it's expecting to run the script [02:52] huh? but that file should be installed by 'selinux' [02:53] tanath: reinstalling selinux should clear up this, then [02:53] hm, no, selinux-policy-ubuntu gets installed first 'cause selinux depends on it === xxploit_ is now known as xxploit [02:53] hggdh, no - see above [02:54] tanath: it is possible that prerm will try to run /etc/init.d/selinux stop in order to prepare for removal [02:54] hggdh, i think so. [02:55] so, as yofel stated, reinstalling selinux will clear whatever issue you had before, and will allow you to then remove the beast [02:56] except it installed selinux-policy-ubuntu first due to dependency, which fails [02:56] for same reason [02:58] hggdh, know a way around it? [02:59] tanath: you could edit the /var/lib/dpkg/info/selinux.prerm script and remove any reference to '/etc/init.d/selinux stop' from there [02:59] no, I do not -- and cannot reproduce, without selinux installed... [02:59] then It should at least remove fine... [02:59] or create a wrapper that will return 0 [03:00] yofel, it needs the file to remove... [03:01] tanath: what I meant was to tell the prerm script to not try to run the init script [03:01] hggdh, i suppose i could try that. i'm just not sure that it'll remove properly [03:01] it'd be easier if i could just replace the file as it's meant to be [03:01] not sure why it's missing though [03:02] well, if selinux is already stopped, yofel's approach is the easiest [03:02] how can i check? [03:03] I don't know how to check what it takes to stop it though since I can't install selinux here thanks to dependency problems [03:04] tanath: something else: do you still have the selinux deb in /var/cache/apt/archives? [03:04] yofel, nope. looking for the deb now [03:05] tanath: try 'apt-get install -d selinux' [03:05] that should only download it [03:05] didn't do anything useful [03:06] tanath: the file should be called selinux_1%3a0.4_all.deb [03:06] %3a = ? [03:06] tanath: dpkg -x selinux*.deb temp;sudo cp temp/etc/init.d/selinux /etc/init.d [03:08] gotta get it downloaded first, but -d just says it's already the newest version [03:09] tanath: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/selinux [03:14] victory! thanks, hggdh & yofel [03:15] Hello, how stable is the nvidia driver 185.18.14 x86 on kernel 2.6.30.2? Has anybody had problems (I'm going to be using it with 9.04 hopefully) [03:15] worked perfectly [03:15] you're welcome [03:15] awesome :D [03:15] wish i knew how it got in that state [03:15] * yofel too [03:15] heh, i can't get .30+ kernels to boot at all [03:15] cool [03:16] I'm on 30.1 [03:16] not the issue with the kernel, but solving the selinux thingy ;-)\ [03:16] but there's a bug so going to 30.2 [03:16] btw, i noticed something when i was removing selinux... http://pastebin.ca/1502687 [03:17] my fstab is borked [03:17] and the reason i can't boot to the new kernels appears to be that it times out waiting for root device [03:17] would that be why? [03:18] well the fstab seems ok, rather [03:18] yes, your fstab is borked [03:18] tanath: what is the [*-snip] format? [03:18] tanath: are those -snip really in your fstab? that shouldn't work at all [03:18] no [03:18] i did that [03:18] ah [03:18] not sure if it mattered [03:19] is it between []? [03:19] just left the first bit to distinguish them [03:19] oh yeah, something weird for me: trying to UEFI-boot 2.6.31 fails... can't find "unknown-block(0,0)" [03:19] no, [] means i edited/commented [03:19] As it turns out... what's happening is that the initramfs is failing to load. [03:20] strings in [] are replacements [03:20] except for where i said [wrong[ [03:20] ] [03:20] tanath: why did you replace them o.O [03:20] potential security reasons? i'm not sure if it could matter [03:20] tanath: well, if its not finding your root device, it might be because of incorrect UUIDS, so it might be useful to paste it unedited [03:21] i don't know exactly how it's used [03:21] tanath: check if the values are the same as what 'sudo blkid' gives you [03:21] yofel, 'sudo blkid' doesn't list one for /dev/sda1 [03:21] Oh, and I also get "/proc/cmdline: no such file or directory" [03:21] ... which got a rather large WTF response from me. [03:22] yofel, just sda5 & sdb1 [03:23] okay... then I don't get you system setup... what does 'ls /dev/sd*' give you? [03:24] /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 [03:26] your / is sda1 or sdb1 ? [03:26] sda1 [03:26] and i can't seem to mount /dev/sda2 [03:26] which i'd forgotten about [03:26] it's not in fstab, so won't automount [03:26] and i'm not sure what fs it is [03:27] tanath: I don't think you can mount sda2 - it's a wrapper for sda5 [03:27] oh [03:27] you sure? [03:27] sda2 could easily be a 2nd partition on first drive [03:27] you can only have 4 primary partitions so sda2 is a extended partition that can contain more partitions [03:28] mm [03:28] ok, so why did / get removed? [03:28] and the missind 3 and 4 are the remaining allowed primary ones [03:28] tanath: no idea, I'm asking myself the same thing [03:29] tanath: also 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' should show you what types the partitions are [03:29] or probably more importantly, how do i fix it? [03:29] yeh, sda2 is extended [03:29] tanath: you've got sda1 mounted right now? [03:30] it's / [03:30] i'm running on a .28 kernel right now. won't boot in .30 ones [03:31] then why doesn't blkid recognize it... [03:31] Hmm, try installing and running "testdisk" [03:33] testdisk safe to run on / ? [03:33] i can't exactly unmount it :P [03:34] partition type isn't listed [03:34] Intel/PC partition? [03:34] fdisk doesn't list the partition type? [03:34] no, testdisk doesn't [03:34] ok [03:35] sorry slow graphics, convo takes while to load [03:35] ok, testdisk seems to recognize the partitions fine. / is marked bootable [03:36] structure OK [03:36] I don't know what you're trying to do, you can't mount your filesystem? but you're using it? [03:36] geekneeus, fstab doesn't see / [03:37] does mount list it as mounted? [03:37] yeah, but why did the system boot at all then? [03:37] geekneeus, which i think is why i can't boot in .30 kernels. says timed out waiting for root device or some-such [03:37] geekneeus, mount says rootfs mounted on / [03:38] testdisk didn't seem to find anything abnormal [03:39] on you on ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10? [03:39] 9.10 [03:39] but i can only boot from 9.04 kernels [03:39] ok, I have it working on 9.04 not 9.10 [03:40] I came in to find out how well the latest nvidia drivers worked with 2.6.30.2 [03:41] mm. ati here, and can't boot .30 kernels :P [03:41] tanath: what does 'sudo blkid /dev/sda1' say? [03:41] yofel, no output [03:41] ok... [03:41] what about just blkid? [03:41] or better not ok... [03:42] geekneeus: that lists all other drives but not sda1 [03:42] which is... wtf? [03:42] no idea xD [03:43] my / has no uuid :-/ [03:44] so findfs doesn't locate the device by uuid? and blkid doesn't list the device? [03:44] tanath: what fs type do you have on / ? [03:44] ext3 [03:45] tanath: try to set a new uuid with 'sudo tune2fs -U $(uuidgen) /dev/sda1' [03:46] and then rund blkid again [03:46] [ 3.094739] RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. [03:46] s/rund/run [03:46] still no output [03:47] tanath: could you pastebin the output of 'sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1' ? [03:47] no errors, but blkid gives nothing [03:48] http://pastebin.ca/1502714 [03:49] tanath try sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda1 [03:49] yofel, looks like there's a valid uuid there.. [03:50] sudo: vol_id: command not found [03:50] yeah, the fs state seems ok [03:50] ok, it's not installed by default? [03:50] geekneeus: vol_id doesn't exist in karmic [03:50] only thing i have is volname [03:50] oh, didn't know that yofel :-) [03:51] xlife doesn't either. >_< [03:51] i want that back [03:51] /gripe [03:54] yofel, sudo blkid -p /dev/sda1 [03:54] /dev/sda1: ambivalent result (probably more filesystems on the device) [03:54] err... wth [03:55] that doesn't make sense [03:55] o_O [03:55] ofel@yofel-thinkpad archives $ sudo blkid -p /dev/sda1 [03:55] [sudo] password for yofel: [03:55] /dev/sda1: UUID="c687ed50-e504-475b-ba14-05141897a4b2" VERSION="1.0" TYPE="ext4" USAGE="filesystem" [03:56] eek, i wouldn't recommend using ext4. i tried that and the fs corrupted [03:56] tanath: works fine since I use karmic, but yeah, wasn't really ready for use in jaunty [03:56] you think it's stable enough in karmic? [03:57] I haven't had any errors so far [03:57] one data point... :P [03:58] safe graphics mode for the alpha 2 installer fails on my setup [03:59] but it is kind of an awkward setup anyway [03:59] I was wondering how to get by this without burning the alternate install [04:00] I believe you can specify the resolution and driver at the main menu [04:00] tanath: then I'm out of ideas for now [04:00] tanath: you should ask again later when the others are back [04:00] i think i tried installing truecrypt or something at one point... might that be it? [04:00] oh.... [04:01] tanath: no idea, but googling your blkid message found bug 362315 as the only result [04:01] Launchpad bug 362315 in udev "udev fails to identify crypt_LUKS swap partition by uuid" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362315 [04:02] so that *might* have something to do with it [04:02] looks like i have something called cryptmount installed [04:02] wonder if that did it [04:02] but I don't know anything about truecrypt tbh [04:02] and now I'm off to bed [04:02] makes hidden encrypted partitions [04:02] good night [04:02] mm, thanks. gnight [04:26] anyone got a fast dl for karmic alternate i386? [04:46] is there a way to request an update of packages for karmic? [04:46] for a specific program? [04:49] anyone? [05:53] anyone here having gnome-do problems? [05:55] Nope. [05:55] i lost my dock [05:57] first time it's never opened on boot [06:30] anyone lost sound today? [06:34] billybigrigger, No Gnome-Do problems nor sound problems for me today [06:34] hmmm [06:34] i can see the volume bar moving, like its outputting sound...in pavucontrol, and the new sound preferences icon [06:34] but nothing [06:39] restart fixed er [06:39] err logout/in [06:58] [ 3.094739] RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0. [07:25] hi um is packages.ubuntu.com down atm? [07:26] d1b: yes [07:27] rww: ok any idea on an eta till its back up? [07:28] d1b: no. it goes up and down occasionally. What was it you needed it for? === WelshDragon is now known as Fluffles [07:43] Is it a bad idea to update to 9.10 if I use Ubuntu recreationally... like, webcam / IRC / anime / security tools [07:43] PROject-Emerald, yes [07:43] Mehh. [07:43] any idea on a release? [07:43] October 2009 [07:44] Oh sweet. [07:44] Thanks. [08:34] morning [10:32] anyone knows what happened to gdmsetup? I can't find it and apt-file returns nothing. [10:57] x1250: I believe it's broke in the later versions of gnome - but don't quote me on that [10:58] k, thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel === zorael_ is now known as Zorael === SealV is now known as Islington [12:40] hi [12:40] hi [12:40] hello [12:41] well, cant enter ubuntu so i came here [12:41] what did you do get into trouble..lol [12:41] guys, any idea if any new theme or look is into karmic alphas yet [12:41] has the login window settings thing changed? cause i can't find it [12:42] YaManicKill, are you talking about gdm? [12:44] oldude67: yeah [12:44] its a little foobarred right now..atleast it is on my machine..:( [12:45] really? its nowhere on mine [12:45] i switched to kdm for the time being. [12:45] its in administration rather than preferences isnt it [12:46] ewww thats a gnome question..lol [12:46] lol yeah...it is...but still [12:46] ya look there. [12:46] i just wanna disable auto login, cause i'm trying to get out of this xsession, and into my standalone compiz one [12:46] or do dpkg-reconfigure gdm [12:46] oh then that wont help you [12:47] is there a way to do it from the command line? [12:52] gottit [12:52] nano /etc/gdm/custom.conf [12:52] high [12:53] drag and drop doesnt work with banshee [12:53] does the changings on the /etc/gdm/custom.conf take any effect? i tried it, but there were no changings after restarting gdm [13:17] hey i have a problem with sudo apt-get update [13:17] W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_karmic_universe_binary-i386_Packages) [13:17] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [13:18] can anyone help me [13:18] read the warning ? [13:18] it says whats wrong ? [13:19] update cannot complete [13:19] lol [13:19] because you have a duplicate source entry [13:19] some people can't read errors :( [13:19] so how ccan i change [13:20] edit your source.list [13:20] i did but still get the same error [13:21] then you didn't remove all duplicate entries [13:22] how can i know which is duplicate [13:22] i can't seem to be able to kill x. i did the sudo apt-get install dontzap and then sudo dontzap -d [13:23] but i still can't kill x [13:23] YaManicKill: kill x ? [13:23] dupondje: but i don't want to go and have to do that everytime i wanna logout. [13:24] ok i try [13:26] i's done [13:26] thanxx DUDE !!! [13:28] just an FYI, if yet unknown: last update to ecryptfs hosed my system [13:28] downgrading to -76 recovered it, at least partially [13:30] known bug [13:32] hggdh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/403011 [13:35] dupondje: thanks, will subscribe. There are other effects (keyring is still giving me issues) [13:35] and my session theme just went bananas :-( [13:35] someone is talking from my telling bone [13:36] hggdh: temp solution is to go back to previous version [13:36] but they are on it :) [13:36] yay, I am there [13:37] patch seems to be done :p [13:37] upgrade will come asap :D [13:37] Hiyas [13:37] heh. Will get it this evening, go to get to my contract now === le_bilou1e is now known as le_biloute [15:02] hi [15:02] i see only garbage with vinagre [15:02] vino-server has a problem with desktop-effects [15:13] is there a way to deactivate the effects on connect? [15:15] alteregox: yes turn them off in apperance [15:16] they will not come on again until you set it to normal or advanced or whatever its called [15:55] does anyone know if there are plans to include support for dsl and adsl usb based modems in koala ? [15:55] networkmanager doesnt handle those at all [16:04] it doesnt? [16:10] Bmw1000c: nope, i couldnt get to work any usb modem from main polish telecoms [16:11] had to use 3rd party scripts that did some mumbo-jumbo with configs [16:12] not to mention easy connection sharing ;-) [16:16] Ergo^: you can do easy connection sharing with firestarter [16:16] popey: yea that i know fortunately [16:17] the big issue is getting usb modems to work without net and 3rd party programs [16:17] http://www.ubudsl.com/ [16:17] this seems to solve the problem for other countries too it seems [16:18] but its not a very good solution, when it comes to conn sharing unfortunately [16:18] usb modems in general aren't a very good solution [16:18] thats a lovely looking website [16:19] popey: they are not, but tell that to around 50% of internet users in my country :P [16:19] :( [16:19] i guess those modems are very cheap [16:19] dont understand why they dont ship ethernet based ones [16:21] and yes site is lovely, but shouldnt be needed in first place, average user has no chance of getting his modem running if just left with empty pc and a cd with drivers ;-) [16:26] is the gdm config manager meant to not be in karmic just now? [16:26] * YaManicKill searches lp [16:28] wait...its been posted as a bug === Zorael is now known as Zorael^nb === Zorael^2 is now known as Zorael [17:16] Hi, a quick question, I need to answer a bug report. Is gstreamer-pulseaudio going to be installed by default in karmic (currently it isnt)? [17:16] or better [17:17] is gstreamer0.10-alsa going to be removed from the default desktop?? [17:45] I would like to upgrade to 9.10 to test it and report bugs, but how stable is it at the moment? Can I perform basic tasks at my laptop with it? [17:46] define basic tasks? [17:46] i run it on my notebook [17:46] browsing the web, reading e-mail [17:46] its stable for those stuff [17:47] because of trouble with fglrx and ati I can't play games at it any way on 9.04 [17:47] ok [17:47] then I'll give it a try [17:47] my notebook uses the kernel driver, and 3d works wit ati [17:47] I've a Radeon 200M, which is a bit old I think [17:47] i think it works [17:48] ok, thanks [17:48] stuff [17:48] wlan stuff works fine [17:49] everythings works fine (at least most of the time) here [17:50] lets hope I'll have no trouble either [17:50]