| FLOZz | hi _o/ | 10:45 |
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| lassegul | whats up guys. | 13:42 |
| FLOZz | mmm nothing | 13:45 |
| FLOZz | ^^ | 13:45 |
| lassegul | nice? | 13:45 |
| FLOZz | yes and you ? | 13:45 |
| lassegul | gloomy weather, but except for that... | 13:46 |
| FLOZz | ^^ | 13:46 |
| lassegul | i really hate how inkscape doesnt warn you if youre about to export to png and overwrite a file you are already using in the project. | 13:47 |
| lassegul | you end up with a funny result though: usually a huge png of "source image not available". | 13:47 |
| FLOZz | repote a bug to the inkscape team ? | 13:48 |
| FLOZz | maybe they will add this | 13:49 |
| lassegul | yeah, but they have a _lot_ of bug reports, takes time to look through them all to check for duplicates. | 13:49 |
| FLOZz | :/ | 13:50 |
| mac_v | lassegul: which version of inkscape are you using, ? I get a warning before overwrites | 13:51 |
| mac_v | funny thing is , i was looking for a way to turn it off ;p | 13:52 |
| lassegul | mac_v: lol. good question, im not on my home computer right now, but im guessing something like a rev of pre 0.47 from middle of june. | 13:53 |
| lassegul | should update then :) | 13:53 |
| mac_v | ah... works in 0.46 | 13:53 |
| lassegul | so whats new with ubuntu artwork these days. are there being done any mockups for client side windows gtk decorations? | 13:53 |
| mac_v | i guess boot experience is the only thing active right now, everything else is quite | 13:55 |
| lassegul | usplash theming? | 13:55 |
| lassegul | you havent decided to go for plymouth have you? | 13:55 |
| mac_v | grub2 , no plymouth, mat_t is getting things going | 13:56 |
| lassegul | cool. i remember saying something like "grub2 will be the ultimate boot loader for the GNU/HURD operating system" the day before ubuntu announced it. | 13:57 |
| lassegul | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Solitaire Theres a patch doing the similar things upstream actually. | 13:58 |
| lassegul | hold on, ill try to find it. | 13:59 |
| lassegul | [#ubuntu-artwork] | 14:06 |
| lassegul | awkward Gnome bug 573178 fixes it better. | 14:06 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 573178 in aisleriot "Add Tango style cards to aisleriot" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573178 | 14:06 |
| lassegul | without the ubuntu icon though, but still. | 14:07 |
| lassegul | mac_v: so im looking at the Boot site at the wiki, this all looks really cool, but is it technically possiblelikely? | 14:13 |
| mac_v | i think so, yes... the boot experience wiki already has links youtube showing the working prototypes on a Karmic install .. but mat_t is the better person to answer this | 14:15 |
| yharrow_mobile | lassegul: I don't know if its true. but i read on the wiki that usplash may be removed in favor of an immediate x session. If this is the case then I imagine it sholdnt be too dififuclt. | 14:15 |
| lassegul | i also see that, and i like it very much. mat_t is the one working on facebrowser now, taking over where macslow left? | 14:16 |
| yharrow_mobile | has mat_t posted any reports/screens of his progress online? | 14:17 |
| mat_t | yharrow_mobile: lassegul: I haven't taken over form MacSlow, no :) | 14:18 |
| mat_t | I'm running the design ans specification work for boot and login | 14:18 |
| mat_t | MacSlow will be implementing some of the stuff we design :) | 14:19 |
| lassegul | crepy, we were here talking behind your back, and suddenly youve been here all along :P | 14:19 |
| mat_t | haha, never talk behind someone's back! ;) | 14:20 |
| yharrow_mobile | D: | 14:20 |
| yharrow_mobile | :P | 14:20 |
| lassegul | especially in a logged channel :) | 14:20 |
| mat_t | well... yes | 14:20 |
| mat_t | :) | 14:20 |
| lassegul | so is troy still around? | 14:20 |
| yharrow_mobile | yeah but not like anyone reads the logs... | 14:20 |
| yharrow_mobile | i mean do they? | 14:20 |
| yharrow_mobile | I dunno. I not spoke with troyin a while. But then again i havent been around lately. | 14:21 |
| mat_t | FYI guys, great submissions so far, we're in the process of putting together the final proposals | 14:21 |
| mat_t | so it's a last minute call really - we must have the designs ready before the distro sprint, starting 3rd of Aug | 14:22 |
| yharrow_mobile | Btw I really am impressed with the boot submissions. I was getting a little discouraged in the open source art process lately. | 14:22 |
| yharrow_mobile | But those submissions gave me a spark of hope. | 14:22 |
| lassegul | yeah, guys, you do some awesome work now! | 14:22 |
| mat_t | ha! Me too :) | 14:22 |
| mat_t | We're only just starting spreading the word, so that we can get much more people involved | 14:23 |
| yharrow_mobile | took be by surprise. yes thats exactly what im thinking mat_t | 14:23 |
| mat_t | see, most designers never used linux, and have no idea what FOSS is | 14:23 |
| mat_t | we're here to change it! | 14:23 |
| yharrow_mobile | yeah. | 14:23 |
| yharrow_mobile | :D | 14:23 |
| yharrow_mobile | I get aroundin the art world a bit. And I'm hearing of an increasing number of casual artists who are startng to pick up open source programs like gimp and inkscape as adobe prices skyrocket | 14:24 |
| lassegul | id like to see what happened if adobe one day managed to block pirating of their products | 14:25 |
| mat_t | ha | 14:25 |
| mat_t | exactly | 14:25 |
| mat_t | would be great to have a good replacement for Flash, too. ATM that's a bit of a pain | 14:26 |
| yharrow_mobile | mat_t: I think that the solution to that is closer than you think. take alook at the specs for the latest version of firefox | 14:26 |
| lassegul | hopefully flash on web dies with <video> and HTML5 CSS3 | 14:26 |
| yharrow_mobile | flash-like functionality will soon be common place within web pages themselves | 14:27 |
| mat_t | true | 14:27 |
| yharrow_mobile | without the need for external plugins | 14:27 |
| yharrow_mobile | flash is a transitory tool imho | 14:27 |
| yharrow_mobile | it filleda need | 14:27 |
| mat_t | still, Flash is extremely useful for UI mockups, for example | 14:27 |
| yharrow_mobile | flash will always remain a great tool for animation | 14:27 |
| yharrow_mobile | quick animation | 14:27 |
| lassegul | yeah, and we dont have any replacements for that yet, do we? | 14:27 |
| yharrow_mobile | I'd have to agree lassegul. Although I do recall hearing of an open source flash like platform several years ago. I think it was called open lazlo | 14:28 |
| yharrow_mobile | http://www.openlaszlo.org/ | 14:29 |
| lassegul | but flash as a UI mockup tool is a minor nuiance, while getting rid of flash on the web is a huge step for FLOSS | 14:29 |
| lassegul | dont tell kwwii, but i dont like oxygen very much | 14:36 |
| lassegul | oops, ubuntulog rejoined | 14:36 |
| yharrow_mobile | xD | 14:36 |
| yharrow_mobile | trying to go off the record? | 14:36 |
| lassegul | my DDos can only work for 30 secs at a time ;) | 14:36 |
| yharrow_mobile | o.o | 14:37 |
| yharrow_mobile | lol | 14:37 |
| yharrow_mobile | lassegul: many people say that open source art will never succeed because no 2 artists styles are the same. | 14:38 |
| yharrow_mobile | and therefore anything produced in that fashion would not be an entirely unified work | 14:38 |
| lassegul | and making open source art is a constant struggle to prove them wrong | 14:38 |
| yharrow_mobile | well I beleive they are wrong...up to an extent | 14:39 |
| yharrow_mobile | if differing individual styles is waht makes open source art fail | 14:39 |
| yharrow_mobile | then I say that we just need better and sttricter standards | 14:39 |
| yharrow_mobile | rather than allow for individuality in the art itself, | 14:39 |
| yharrow_mobile | we should allow for individiuality in developing the standards for that art | 14:40 |
| yharrow_mobile | Am I making sense here? | 14:40 |
| lassegul | i agree. | 14:40 |
| lassegul | i gotta run and get an RSA key generator before help desk closes. | 14:41 |
| yharrow_mobile | alright gl. thanks for the chat. | 14:41 |
| andreasn_ | yharrow_mobile, I would say that is incorrect. I think about 20 individuals (or more) have been involved in the Tango project over the years, and I would say it's close to impossible to say what artist drew what just from looking at stuff | 14:45 |
| andreasn_ | err...incorrect was the wrong wording | 14:46 |
| andreasn_ | what I meant is that I disagree :) | 14:47 |
| lassegul | icons are one thing, they behave much like software, lots of lines of code - lots of components - lots of icons, have a shared specific goal and youre going to be alright. | 14:47 |
| lassegul | wallpapers and themes are different. | 14:47 |
| lassegul | you have to have a clear vision, and a few effective people to work it out. | 14:47 |
| lassegul | art needs to be "offensive" to some, a piece that everyone likes will end up bland and boring. | 14:49 |
| andreasn_ | I guess the backgrounds can be offensive, not sure how you could make a widget theme offensive | 14:50 |
| lassegul | ;) if anyone, you can do it andreasn_ | 14:50 |
| andreasn_ | maybe making it all bright yellow and red? | 14:51 |
| andreasn_ | and use a texture with cursing on it | 14:51 |
| lassegul | instead of an X for closing the window, you have a swastika. | 14:51 |
| lassegul | im sorry, thats not funny. | 14:51 |
| andreasn_ | ouch, yeah, that would be quite offensive :/ | 14:52 |
| lassegul | andreasn_: are you doing any work on the 3.0 icon theme? | 14:52 |
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| andreasn | yes, it's in the one-canvas branch of gnome-icon-theme | 14:53 |
| andreasn | we still have some fixes left before it's ready for 2.28 though | 14:53 |
| lassegul | it will be ready for 2.28? | 14:54 |
| lassegul | im not on a liux computer, do you have a png somewhere online? i want to bask in its sweet high res goodness | 14:54 |
| andreasn | lets see, hold on | 14:55 |
| andreasn | http://files.getdropbox.com/u/184285/big-size-preview.png | 15:01 |
| lassegul | can i have that printer icon? | 15:02 |
| lassegul | i want to take it out for dinner, buy it lobster, and propose with a ring in the champagne glass. | 15:03 |
| andreasn | :) | 15:03 |
| andreasn | it's quite neat, I think it was lapo who drew it | 15:03 |
| andreasn | or maybe jimmac | 15:03 |
| yharrow_mobile | I beleive that the tango theme is a good example of what could be done when you give specific guidelines. What I'm suggesting is something a little different. Im suggesting allowing for some style or flair in the icons and having multiple artists contribute to what kind of style or flair is used | 15:05 |
| yharrow_mobile | Once a set of strict guidelines our developed actualization can begin. | 15:06 |
| yharrow_mobile | are * | 15:06 |
| yharrow_mobile | rather than having rough guidelines and inputting little bits of advice form multiple artists on each part, as if it was a seperate entity | 15:07 |
| yharrow_mobile | I'm by no means attempting to insult anyone. Im just offering up an idea and id love to hear what people think of it | 15:07 |
| andreasn | oh, I wasn't insulted, don't worry. | 15:09 |
| andreasn | I'm also a bit too much in the middle of something, so I didn't really follow the whole discussion | 15:10 |
| yharrow_mobile | no problem. if you get a chance later to look over the convo feel free to reply | 15:11 |
| mac_v | yharrow_mobile: i think in short what you mean is:a project needs a good team leader with a set goal? | 15:23 |
| mac_v | andreasn: what is that icon ,a paper and a clock, for? | 15:25 |
| andreasn | mac_v, for when you're loading a preview or mimetype | 15:31 |
| mac_v | andreasn: ah... thought so... nice... is it semi-transparent also? like the previous one | 15:31 |
| andreasn | I don't think it is, but that would be easy to fix | 15:33 |
| mac_v | i liked that about the previous one... gave it the feel as something in-process... | 15:36 |
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| mac_v | thorwil: hi... is this for the Karmic wallpapers ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Finding_Your_Inner_Koala , just asking since you had edited the page ... | 17:22 |
| thorwil | mac_v: that page is older than our backgrounds section | 17:23 |
| thorwil | in some way, it should be there, but it doesn't fit in well | 17:24 |
| thorwil | mac_v: cut/copy and move attechments if your are bored ;) | 17:24 |
| mac_v | yeah, the date threw me off... i thought it was the old starting for Karmic | 17:25 |
| mac_v | not that bored, though ;p | 17:25 |
| thorwil | http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/ | 19:20 |
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