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| liw | hi | 16:00 |
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| robbiew | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is robbiew. | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:00 |
| robbiew | yo! | 16:00 |
| mvo_ | jo! | 16:01 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:01 |
| * mvo_ mubbles something about firstpost | 16:01 | |
| * robbiew barely gets the agenda out...sorry | 16:01 | |
| mterry | hello | 16:03 |
| evand1 | hi | 16:03 |
| robbiew | hmm...we seem a little light in attendance today | 16:04 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: james_w: Keybuk: around? | 16:04 |
| james_w | hi | 16:05 |
| Keybuk | nope | 16:05 |
| Keybuk | not here | 16:05 |
| * Keybuk has swine flu | 16:05 | |
| robbiew | oh well...I guess I'd better keep this Dell Mini 10V then | 16:05 |
| robbiew | :P | 16:05 |
| robbiew | is cjwatson putting out release fires? | 16:05 |
| robbiew | well...let's just get started | 16:06 |
| * robbiew still needs to pack :/ | 16:06 | |
| Keybuk | robbiew: you have a week yet | 16:07 |
| * liw points everyone at http://www.onebag.com/ | 16:07 | |
| robbiew | uh...DebConf my friend | 16:07 |
| * james_w must remember to print off all the tickets | 16:07 | |
| * robbiew sends that link to his wife ;) | 16:07 | |
| Keybuk | ahh | 16:08 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Alpha 3 deliverables | 16:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Alpha 3 deliverables | 16:08 |
| robbiew | evand1: usb-creator for windows this week...right? | 16:08 |
| robbiew | but not IN Alpha 3 | 16:08 |
| evand1 | by the end of the weekend | 16:08 |
| evand1 | correct | 16:08 |
| robbiew | col | 16:09 |
| robbiew | cool | 16:09 |
| robbiew | argh...someone at the door (delivery pickup)....brb | 16:09 |
| Keybuk | evand1: you're going to work on it all weekend? did David Mandala get on a plane to come visit? :P | 16:09 |
| evand1 | Keybuk: no, but just in case I'm going to dig an old fashion British moat. | 16:10 |
| liw | isn't the entire country surrounded by a really big moat? | 16:11 |
| evand1 | lol | 16:11 |
| robbiew | back | 16:13 |
| robbiew | sorry...too many deliveries for Keybuk :P | 16:14 |
| robbiew | mterry: you around? | 16:14 |
| mterry | robbiew, yup | 16:14 |
| robbiew | is the rsyslog stuff good to go? | 16:14 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: heh, dropping off or picking up? | 16:14 |
| mterry | robbiew, yup | 16:15 |
| robbiew | cool | 16:15 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: picking up | 16:15 |
| Keybuk | \o/ | 16:16 |
| robbiew | mvo: the aptURL policy stuff is done...right? | 16:16 |
| robbiew | mvo_:^? | 16:16 |
| mvo_ | robbiew: yeah | 16:16 |
| robbiew | sweet ;) | 16:16 |
| mvo_ | robbiew: we made adding much easier now via software-properites | 16:16 |
| mvo_ | and auto-adding needs *more* discussion | 16:16 |
| * robbiew seems to recall seeing an update to the Server Installer Improvements blueprint indicating it was good to go...but will need to confirm with cjwatson | 16:17 | |
| robbiew | mvo_: right...I figured the auto-adding would need more "discussion" ;) | 16:17 |
| mvo_ | :) | 16:17 |
| robbiew | doko setup the python 2.6 ppa for hardy...so that's done in my book | 16:18 |
| robbiew | mvo_: you're done with our part of the upgrade support in Landscape, right? | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | robbiew: whoops, at debcamp, timezone confusion meant I forgot about the meeting | 16:18 |
| robbiew | ah | 16:18 |
| mvo_ | robbiew: yeah, I think it should be good, I'm waiting for feedback from the landscape team | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | server installer should be done | 16:19 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: no worries, wasn't sure if the ecryptfs thing was still keeping you busy :) | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | nah, got that sorted | 16:19 |
| mvo_ | cheers to james_w for this (fixing it) | 16:19 |
| robbiew | mvo_: ok...thnx | 16:20 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Sponsorship Queue | 16:20 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Sponsorship Queue | 16:20 |
| * robbiew checks the last 7 days...not bad | 16:21 | |
| robbiew | though Desktop always seems to kick our a$$ | 16:21 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:21 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Objectives | 16:22 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Objectives | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | I've sucked this week due to travel (Tue's my usual sponsorship day) | 16:22 |
| * mvo_ thinks he did a bad job this week too | 16:22 | |
| robbiew | cjwatson: yeah...I figured that would be the case over the next couple weeks | 16:22 |
| robbiew | no worries...as long as Keybuk keeps meeting his goal of zero, you'll all be fine :P | 16:23 |
| robbiew | don't forget to send me you objectives by next Friday | 16:23 |
| robbiew | email is fine...since I don't trust the PDR tool | 16:23 |
| liw | robbiew, next friday as in the day after tomorrow or the friday a week from that? | 16:23 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:24 |
| robbiew | July 31st | 16:24 |
| liw | (I honestly get confused by that expression every time) | 16:24 |
| robbiew | for me..THIS Friday would be the day after tomorrow | 16:25 |
| * robbiew ends his lesson | 16:25 | |
| robbiew | :P | 16:25 |
| mterry | (mike adds, but the distinction between THIS and NEXT starts to get fuzzy 5 days out) | 16:25 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Good News | 16:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Good News | 16:25 |
| robbiew | mterry: true | 16:26 |
| robbiew | anything? | 16:26 |
| mterry | Alpha 3 is in good shape! | 16:26 |
| mvo_ | auto-cdrom detection in apt is getting along nicely (via libudev) | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | I've been talking about the server-installer-improvements work with Debian people here, and generally people seem to like the UI changes | 16:26 |
| Keybuk | I think I have sreadahead ready to replace readahead-list on hard drives | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | although I haven't shown anyone the actual patches yet ;-) | 16:27 |
| robbiew | mterry: don't jinx it | 16:27 |
| robbiew | mvo_: cool | 16:27 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: nice...SteveG should like that ;) | 16:27 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: Yoohoo! I'm tired of having to uninstall readahead all the time :P | 16:28 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 16:28 |
| * robbiew will be off-line this evening and tomorrow...travelling | 16:28 | |
| robbiew | though, as usual, I will have my Crackberry | 16:29 |
| robbiew | #endmeeting | 16:30 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:30. | 16:30 |
| * robbiew needs to get packing ;) | 16:30 | |
| robbiew | thanks all | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: have a good flight | 16:30 |
| mvo_ | have a good trip robbiew | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | I look forwards to receiving max tomorrow :-) | 16:30 |
| james_w | robbiew: it will probably take me as long as you this time :-) | 16:30 |
| robbiew | thanks...lol | 16:30 |
| ScottK | evand1: Is the KDE usb-creator included in the this week stuff? | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | assuming that the boot time results for the Mini 9 and Mini 10 are the same | 16:31 |
| Keybuk | (which they should be - they're identical hardware) | 16:31 |
| evand1 | ScottK: that's pretty much ready for upload, I've just been holding off as much as possible while I try to find time to finish the devicekit backend (the existing HAL code is a bit wobbly) | 16:31 |
| Keybuk | I'm more than happy to lose the Mini 9 if somebody else has a use for it | 16:31 |
| robbiew | Keybuk: bring it to the sprint...I'm sure we can find it a home | 16:32 |
| Keybuk | robbiew: my attendance depends on what my doctor tells me when he calls tomorrow | 16:32 |
| * robbiew may take it to run his own bootcharts :P | 16:32 | |
| evand1 | ScottK: I told rgreening that I'd upload it though (I keep slipping on that though, need to dedicate some time to it before the weekend) | 16:32 |
| ScottK | evand1: Thanks. It'll be good to get that in. | 16:32 |
| evand1 | absolutely. I'll endeavor to get that done. | 16:33 |
| ScottK | Keybuk: I now have a mini 10v also and am interested in doing Kubuntu testing to see if it's worth the trouble to try and do flavor specific boot profiling. | 16:33 |
| Keybuk | ScottK: it'd be certainly worth improving the performance of kdm and the kde desktop login | 16:34 |
| * ScottK will not doubt ping you for some hand holding. | 16:35 | |
| Keybuk | in terms of the readahead lists, the move to sreadahead should fix that | 16:35 |
| ScottK | OK. Good. | 16:35 |
| * ScottK saw your mail to the boot performance list today. | 16:36 | |
| ogra | Keybuk, can you also make my ARMs faster please ? | 16:39 |
| Keybuk | no, but I can work on your LEGs | 16:39 |
| * evand1 rimshot | 16:39 | |
| ogra | :P | 16:39 |
| * ogra goes to #ubuntu-leg | 16:40 | |
| Keybuk | I always remember that the security software installed on the Acorn 5000s was called ARM LOCK | 16:42 |
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| ara | hello, hello | 17:58 |
| sbeattie | moin | 17:58 |
| pedro_ | hola! | 17:58 |
| fader_ | saluton | 17:59 |
| eeejay | yo yo | 17:59 |
| heno | hey | 17:59 |
| bdmurray | hey hey hey ;-) | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | me too | 18:01 |
| heno | let's start | 18:01 |
| heno | #startmeeting | 18:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 12:01. The chair is heno. | 18:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 18:01 |
| heno | agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings | 18:01 |
| davmor2 | hello | 18:01 |
| heno | hey davmor2 | 18:02 |
| fader_ | FYI schwuk was having connectivity issues earlier so he may or may not be responsive | 18:02 |
| heno | UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | _o/ | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | Last Thursday we had a hug day based on synaptic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090716 | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | 134 bugs were hugged and the graph looks pretty great https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090716?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=synaptic-week-triaging.png | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | Thanks a lot to the hug day heroes: yofel, scifly, kamusin, micahg, kralph, mistrynitesh and kelvingardiner | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | btw some of them continue working on the hug day until yesterday :-) you guys rock! | 18:03 |
| bdmurray | that's fantastic! | 18:04 |
| * Kamusin :D | 18:04 | |
| pedro_ | hey Kamusin :-) | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | Tomorrow we're having a hug day based on Evolution https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090723 | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | people already started to work on it (yes we have an awesome community!), so if you have a few spare minutes please help us with it, come on you know you want a hug :-) | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | and the last, we're looking for targets so if you have one or an idea please add it to the planning page | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning | 18:05 |
| heno | great, thanks pedro_ | 18:06 |
| bdmurray | firefox-3.5 might be a good idea | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, yeap , I'm adding it to the page | 18:07 |
| heno | [TOPIC] New bug control members! -- bdmurray | 18:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: New bug control members! -- bdmurray | 18:07 |
| bdmurray | Nothing to report at this time, just a couple of renewals. | 18:08 |
| heno | ok, thanks | 18:08 |
| heno | [TOPIC] SRU testing -- sbeattie | 18:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: SRU testing -- sbeattie | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | 8.04.3 finally got released last week, so hardy SRUs have slowed down a little. | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | Although a few new ones came into hardy-proposed that were queued up waiting for post-release. | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | There's still a number of jaunty and intrepid SRUs that could use testing. | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | Thanks to Aldo Bortot, Steven Ellis, Conan Barnes, Anton¡o Sch¡fano, Renzo Bagnati, grawity, aexl, Bryan McLellan, mcarni, Larry Reid for helping to test various proposed packages this week. | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | and that's all I've got on that front. | 18:10 |
| heno | ok, thanks sbeattie | 18:11 |
| heno | [TOPIC] Alpha 3 testing status | 18:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Alpha 3 testing status | 18:11 |
| heno | Have images been respun today? | 18:11 |
| davmor2 | yes over and over | 18:11 |
| sbeattie | yeah, live cds are currently being respun | 18:12 |
| davmor2 | ubuntu lives have just gone up | 18:12 |
| * sbeattie stands corrected. | 18:12 | |
| davmor2 | alt's seem to be okay to test | 18:12 |
| heno | are there issues beyond ecryptfs? | 18:12 |
| * ara syncs her images | 18:13 | |
| davmor2 | fglrx enabled mean you get no login screen | 18:13 |
| davmor2 | just found | 18:13 |
| davmor2 | windows isn't added to grub when installed side by side | 18:14 |
| heno | ok | 18:14 |
| heno | are we expecting the alpha will slip to Friday? | 18:14 |
| davmor2 | probably. I'm not around much tomorrow at all | 18:14 |
| davmor2 | I swap clients around today so I could get as much done as possible and it's been going round in circles | 18:15 |
| heno | fader_, sbeattie, schwuk: can you step in and help with image testing? | 18:15 |
| sbeattie | yeah, can do. | 18:16 |
| fader_ | heno: Definitely... I can run tests in the background while working on some other stuff | 18:16 |
| schwuk | Sure | 18:16 |
| pedro_ | I'll be testing some images as well | 18:16 |
| davmor2 | mind you we still don't need full coverage and with the breakages so far | 18:16 |
| heno | cr3, fader_: how are we doing on getting the automated test running again? | 18:16 |
| heno | thanks folks | 18:16 |
| fader_ | cr3 sent me an updated checkbox package today but it still seems to have some issues on karmic | 18:17 |
| fader_ | cr3: ^^ can you provide more info? | 18:17 |
| fader_ | (About timing at least) | 18:17 |
| heno | it would be great to have some alpha 3 testing from cert - can we just blacklist bootchart testing? | 18:18 |
| cr3 | the problems to solve were: 1. upstart changed configuration; 2. some tests/attachments were causing checkbox to wait forever on stdin | 18:18 |
| heno | or is more broken? | 18:18 |
| cr3 | these have been solved and other improvements are currently underdoing testing before releasing checkbox | 18:18 |
| heno | 'other improvements'? | 18:19 |
| cr3 | fader_: the issue you discovered about ioctl not working on karmic can be disabled for now, I mostly need to disable stdin rather than detaching from the controlling terminal | 18:19 |
| cr3 | heno: I have folded a few changes completed for the oem team into the mix | 18:19 |
| sbeattie | "ioctl not working on karmic"? | 18:19 |
| cr3 | as for timeline, I see nothing major, so a new package will be pushed this afternoon early enough to get some tests before the end of day | 18:20 |
| heno | ok, that sounds good | 18:20 |
| heno | coinciding with the last alpha images hopefully | 18:21 |
| cr3 | sbeattie: this line works fine on jaunty, fails with some error message on karmic: fcntl.ioctl(STDIN_FILENO, termios.TIOCNOTTY) | 18:21 |
| fader_ | That would be good timing :) | 18:21 |
| heno | Any other topics? | 18:21 |
| cr3 | fader_: if you have the error message we used to have readily available, please paste to sbeattie | 18:22 |
| cr3 | heno: I will specifically try to get some laptop tests done before the end of day | 18:23 |
| fader_ | cr3: Will do | 18:23 |
| heno | cr3: ok, great | 18:23 |
| heno | seems we're done | 18:24 |
| heno | #endmeeting | 18:24 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:24. | 18:24 |
| pedro_ | thanks you guys | 18:25 |
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