=== asac__ is now known as asac [02:27] * lajjr rebooting === WelshDragon is now known as Fluffles === fader|away is now known as fader_ [16:00] hi [16:00] #startmeeting [16:00] Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is robbiew. [16:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] yo! [16:01] jo! [16:01] heh [16:01] * mvo_ mubbles something about firstpost [16:01] * robbiew barely gets the agenda out...sorry [16:03] hello [16:03] hi [16:04] hmm...we seem a little light in attendance today [16:04] cjwatson: james_w: Keybuk: around? [16:05] hi [16:05] nope [16:05] not here [16:05] * Keybuk has swine flu [16:05] oh well...I guess I'd better keep this Dell Mini 10V then [16:05] :P [16:05] is cjwatson putting out release fires? [16:06] well...let's just get started [16:06] * robbiew still needs to pack :/ [16:07] robbiew: you have a week yet [16:07] * liw points everyone at http://www.onebag.com/ [16:07] uh...DebConf my friend [16:07] * james_w must remember to print off all the tickets [16:07] * robbiew sends that link to his wife ;) [16:08] ahh [16:08] [TOPIC] Alpha 3 deliverables [16:08] New Topic: Alpha 3 deliverables [16:08] evand1: usb-creator for windows this week...right? [16:08] but not IN Alpha 3 [16:08] by the end of the weekend [16:08] correct [16:09] col [16:09] cool [16:09] argh...someone at the door (delivery pickup)....brb [16:09] evand1: you're going to work on it all weekend? did David Mandala get on a plane to come visit? :P [16:10] Keybuk: no, but just in case I'm going to dig an old fashion British moat. [16:11] isn't the entire country surrounded by a really big moat? [16:11] lol [16:13] back [16:14] sorry...too many deliveries for Keybuk :P [16:14] mterry: you around? [16:14] robbiew, yup [16:14] is the rsyslog stuff good to go? [16:14] robbiew: heh, dropping off or picking up? [16:15] robbiew, yup [16:15] cool [16:15] Keybuk: picking up [16:16] \o/ [16:16] mvo: the aptURL policy stuff is done...right? [16:16] mvo_:^? [16:16] robbiew: yeah [16:16] sweet ;) [16:16] robbiew: we made adding much easier now via software-properites [16:16] and auto-adding needs *more* discussion [16:17] * robbiew seems to recall seeing an update to the Server Installer Improvements blueprint indicating it was good to go...but will need to confirm with cjwatson [16:17] mvo_: right...I figured the auto-adding would need more "discussion" ;) [16:17] :) [16:18] doko setup the python 2.6 ppa for hardy...so that's done in my book [16:18] mvo_: you're done with our part of the upgrade support in Landscape, right? [16:18] robbiew: whoops, at debcamp, timezone confusion meant I forgot about the meeting [16:18] ah [16:19] robbiew: yeah, I think it should be good, I'm waiting for feedback from the landscape team [16:19] server installer should be done [16:19] cjwatson: no worries, wasn't sure if the ecryptfs thing was still keeping you busy :) [16:19] nah, got that sorted [16:19] cheers to james_w for this (fixing it) [16:20] mvo_: ok...thnx [16:20] [TOPIC] Sponsorship Queue [16:20] New Topic: Sponsorship Queue [16:21] * robbiew checks the last 7 days...not bad [16:21] though Desktop always seems to kick our a$$ [16:21] heh [16:22] [TOPIC] Objectives [16:22] New Topic: Objectives [16:22] I've sucked this week due to travel (Tue's my usual sponsorship day) [16:22] * mvo_ thinks he did a bad job this week too [16:22] cjwatson: yeah...I figured that would be the case over the next couple weeks [16:23] no worries...as long as Keybuk keeps meeting his goal of zero, you'll all be fine :P [16:23] don't forget to send me you objectives by next Friday [16:23] email is fine...since I don't trust the PDR tool [16:23] robbiew, next friday as in the day after tomorrow or the friday a week from that? [16:24] lol [16:24] July 31st [16:24] (I honestly get confused by that expression every time) [16:25] for me..THIS Friday would be the day after tomorrow [16:25] * robbiew ends his lesson [16:25] :P [16:25] (mike adds, but the distinction between THIS and NEXT starts to get fuzzy 5 days out) [16:25] [TOPIC] Good News [16:25] New Topic: Good News [16:26] mterry: true [16:26] anything? [16:26] Alpha 3 is in good shape! [16:26] auto-cdrom detection in apt is getting along nicely (via libudev) [16:26] I've been talking about the server-installer-improvements work with Debian people here, and generally people seem to like the UI changes [16:26] I think I have sreadahead ready to replace readahead-list on hard drives [16:27] although I haven't shown anyone the actual patches yet ;-) [16:27] mterry: don't jinx it [16:27] mvo_: cool [16:27] cjwatson: nice...SteveG should like that ;) [16:28] Keybuk: Yoohoo! I'm tired of having to uninstall readahead all the time :P [16:28] [TOPIC] AOB [16:28] New Topic: AOB [16:28] * robbiew will be off-line this evening and tomorrow...travelling [16:29] though, as usual, I will have my Crackberry [16:30] #endmeeting [16:30] Meeting finished at 10:30. [16:30] * robbiew needs to get packing ;) [16:30] thanks all [16:30] robbiew: have a good flight [16:30] have a good trip robbiew [16:30] I look forwards to receiving max tomorrow :-) [16:30] robbiew: it will probably take me as long as you this time :-) [16:30] thanks...lol [16:30] evand1: Is the KDE usb-creator included in the this week stuff? [16:31] assuming that the boot time results for the Mini 9 and Mini 10 are the same [16:31] (which they should be - they're identical hardware) [16:31] ScottK: that's pretty much ready for upload, I've just been holding off as much as possible while I try to find time to finish the devicekit backend (the existing HAL code is a bit wobbly) [16:31] I'm more than happy to lose the Mini 9 if somebody else has a use for it [16:32] Keybuk: bring it to the sprint...I'm sure we can find it a home [16:32] robbiew: my attendance depends on what my doctor tells me when he calls tomorrow [16:32] * robbiew may take it to run his own bootcharts :P [16:32] ScottK: I told rgreening that I'd upload it though (I keep slipping on that though, need to dedicate some time to it before the weekend) [16:32] evand1: Thanks. It'll be good to get that in. [16:33] absolutely. I'll endeavor to get that done. [16:33] Keybuk: I now have a mini 10v also and am interested in doing Kubuntu testing to see if it's worth the trouble to try and do flavor specific boot profiling. [16:34] ScottK: it'd be certainly worth improving the performance of kdm and the kde desktop login [16:35] * ScottK will not doubt ping you for some hand holding. [16:35] in terms of the readahead lists, the move to sreadahead should fix that [16:35] OK. Good. [16:36] * ScottK saw your mail to the boot performance list today. [16:39] Keybuk, can you also make my ARMs faster please ? [16:39] no, but I can work on your LEGs [16:39] * evand1 rimshot [16:39] :P [16:40] * ogra goes to #ubuntu-leg [16:42] I always remember that the security software installed on the Acorn 5000s was called ARM LOCK === ember_ is now known as ember === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [17:58] hello, hello [17:58] moin [17:58] hola! [17:59] saluton [17:59] yo yo [17:59] hey [18:00] hey hey hey ;-) [18:01] me too [18:01] let's start [18:01] #startmeeting [18:01] Meeting started at 12:01. The chair is heno. [18:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [18:01] agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings [18:01] hello [18:02] hey davmor2 [18:02] FYI schwuk was having connectivity issues earlier so he may or may not be responsive [18:02] UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro [18:02] _o/ [18:03] Last Thursday we had a hug day based on synaptic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090716 [18:03] 134 bugs were hugged and the graph looks pretty great https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090716?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=synaptic-week-triaging.png [18:03] Thanks a lot to the hug day heroes: yofel, scifly, kamusin, micahg, kralph, mistrynitesh and kelvingardiner [18:03] btw some of them continue working on the hug day until yesterday :-) you guys rock! [18:04] that's fantastic! [18:04] * Kamusin :D [18:04] hey Kamusin :-) [18:04] Tomorrow we're having a hug day based on Evolution https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090723 [18:04] people already started to work on it (yes we have an awesome community!), so if you have a few spare minutes please help us with it, come on you know you want a hug :-) [18:05] and the last, we're looking for targets so if you have one or an idea please add it to the planning page [18:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning [18:06] great, thanks pedro_ [18:06] firefox-3.5 might be a good idea [18:07] bdmurray, yeap , I'm adding it to the page [18:07] [TOPIC] New bug control members! -- bdmurray [18:07] New Topic: New bug control members! -- bdmurray [18:08] Nothing to report at this time, just a couple of renewals. [18:08] ok, thanks [18:09] [TOPIC] SRU testing -- sbeattie [18:09] New Topic: SRU testing -- sbeattie [18:09] 8.04.3 finally got released last week, so hardy SRUs have slowed down a little. [18:09] Although a few new ones came into hardy-proposed that were queued up waiting for post-release. [18:10] There's still a number of jaunty and intrepid SRUs that could use testing. [18:10] Thanks to Aldo Bortot, Steven Ellis, Conan Barnes, Anton¡o Sch¡fano, Renzo Bagnati, grawity, aexl, Bryan McLellan, mcarni, Larry Reid for helping to test various proposed packages this week. [18:10] and that's all I've got on that front. [18:11] ok, thanks sbeattie [18:11] [TOPIC] Alpha 3 testing status [18:11] New Topic: Alpha 3 testing status [18:11] Have images been respun today? [18:11] yes over and over [18:12] yeah, live cds are currently being respun [18:12] ubuntu lives have just gone up [18:12] * sbeattie stands corrected. [18:12] alt's seem to be okay to test [18:12] are there issues beyond ecryptfs? [18:13] * ara syncs her images [18:13] fglrx enabled mean you get no login screen [18:13] just found [18:14] windows isn't added to grub when installed side by side [18:14] ok [18:14] are we expecting the alpha will slip to Friday? [18:14] probably. I'm not around much tomorrow at all [18:15] I swap clients around today so I could get as much done as possible and it's been going round in circles [18:15] fader_, sbeattie, schwuk: can you step in and help with image testing? [18:16] yeah, can do. [18:16] heno: Definitely... I can run tests in the background while working on some other stuff [18:16] Sure [18:16] I'll be testing some images as well [18:16] mind you we still don't need full coverage and with the breakages so far [18:16] cr3, fader_: how are we doing on getting the automated test running again? [18:16] thanks folks [18:17] cr3 sent me an updated checkbox package today but it still seems to have some issues on karmic [18:17] cr3: ^^ can you provide more info? [18:17] (About timing at least) [18:18] it would be great to have some alpha 3 testing from cert - can we just blacklist bootchart testing? [18:18] the problems to solve were: 1. upstart changed configuration; 2. some tests/attachments were causing checkbox to wait forever on stdin [18:18] or is more broken? [18:18] these have been solved and other improvements are currently underdoing testing before releasing checkbox [18:19] 'other improvements'? [18:19] fader_: the issue you discovered about ioctl not working on karmic can be disabled for now, I mostly need to disable stdin rather than detaching from the controlling terminal [18:19] heno: I have folded a few changes completed for the oem team into the mix [18:19] "ioctl not working on karmic"? [18:20] as for timeline, I see nothing major, so a new package will be pushed this afternoon early enough to get some tests before the end of day [18:20] ok, that sounds good [18:21] coinciding with the last alpha images hopefully [18:21] sbeattie: this line works fine on jaunty, fails with some error message on karmic: fcntl.ioctl(STDIN_FILENO, termios.TIOCNOTTY) [18:21] That would be good timing :) [18:21] Any other topics? [18:22] fader_: if you have the error message we used to have readily available, please paste to sbeattie [18:23] heno: I will specifically try to get some laptop tests done before the end of day [18:23] cr3: Will do [18:23] cr3: ok, great [18:24] seems we're done [18:24] #endmeeting [18:24] Meeting finished at 12:24. [18:25] thanks you guys === fader_ is now known as fader|lunch === fader|lunch is now known as fader_ === ejat is now known as e-jat === Saj0577_ is now known as Saj0577 === nizarus_ is now known as nizarus === vorian is now known as heHATEme