| jayteeuk | Yeah, that's a pretty bizarre patch - bizarre that it was ever reauired. | 00:00 |
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| pwnguin | reauired? | 00:00 |
| pwnguin | oh | 00:00 |
| jayteeuk | Bah. fat fingers. | 00:00 |
| jayteeuk | s/a/q | 00:00 |
| pwnguin | heh | 00:01 |
| pwnguin | maybe 3.5 fixed it | 00:01 |
| pwnguin | ah, here's a multiline patch comment | 00:02 |
| pwnguin | http://patches.ubuntu.com/e/eclipse/extracted/eclipse-public-applypatch.dpatch | 00:02 |
| pwnguin | and a fairly lengthy patch | 00:02 |
| directhex | pwnguin, that patch kinda makes it hard to shift the feeling i've always had about eclipse | 00:03 |
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| pwnguin | which is? | 00:04 |
| directhex | "bleh" | 00:04 |
| directhex | just never did anything for me | 00:04 |
| pwnguin | i dont see where C# would improve that | 00:04 |
| jayteeuk | So really my first steps are 0) Remind myself how I partitioned my drive. 0.1) Figure out if I can re-partition an encrypted drive and how. 0.2) Do it. 1) Install Karmic as a dual boot. 2) apt-get source eclipse. 3) Build it just to prove I can. 4) Start looking at / discussing the patches. | 00:04 |
| directhex | we used "JEdit" in the undergrad days ^_^ | 00:04 |
| jayteeuk | directhex: That was my editor of choice before I picked up Eclipse. | 00:05 |
| pwnguin | our intro to programming course was in Java | 00:05 |
| pwnguin | and the mandatory editor was BlueJay | 00:05 |
| jayteeuk | I think the first language I was formally taught was Pascal. | 00:06 |
| jayteeuk | Then VB, then C I think. | 00:06 |
| directhex | pwnguin, well, monodevelop 2.0, the current stable release, with integrated debugging and gui designer, is packaged and working. eclipse is much more mature and has loads more developers. i don't really see the "excuse" for dreadful flaws like not having a working plugin API (i.e. needing to public-ize your app just to get an important plugin running) | 00:06 |
| directhex | i wish MD supported "real" Java though, not just IKVM | 00:07 |
| jayteeuk | Ironically, pointers in C never made sense to me until I started learning Java, which doesn't even have explicit pointers in the language. | 00:07 |
| pwnguin | directhex: i think you fail to understand | 00:07 |
| directhex | pwnguin, entirely possible | 00:07 |
| pwnguin | the main purpose of eclipse today is to serve the people who would otherwise be stuck with crappy vendor IDEs for embedded systems | 00:07 |
| pwnguin | check out the sponsors list | 00:08 |
| directhex | mmmmmmokay, sounds a bit weird, but okay | 00:08 |
| pwnguin | C and C++ developers need an IDE | 00:08 |
| pwnguin | every embedded system ive worked with came with a terrible IDE for a custom toolchain | 00:08 |
| pwnguin | sure, it works with Java and lots of academics like open source and java | 00:10 |
| jayteeuk | I thought the point of Eclipse was so that Java application server vendors didn't have to bother to write their own IDE - just a plugin that connects it to their app server's management interface. :) | 00:11 |
| jayteeuk | But then I only really do server-side Java, so my view is distorted. | 00:12 |
| jayteeuk | I've not really used CDT in anger. | 00:13 |
| pwnguin | places like Nokia, motorola, ARM, QNX, ericsen, freescale, lynuxworks | 00:13 |
| pwnguin | the JDT is well done | 00:13 |
| pwnguin | the custom compiler is fast and the IDE uses some nice tricks for fast lookups | 00:13 |
| pwnguin | personally, the last thing I used eclipse for, was, I think, either a BIRT 2.0 to 3.0 grammar converter, or perhaps a PHP website | 00:15 |
| jayteeuk | I like the JDT. I'd like to be able to make more use of the J2EE perspective, but it seems to require that your project(s) be organised a certain way, which ours isn't. | 00:15 |
| pwnguin | BIRT is amazing. i spent a month on it, and I have no idea what it does or what it's for | 00:16 |
| jayteeuk | I quite like PyDev, although it can be a bit slow. | 00:16 |
| jayteeuk | I've seen BIRT mentioned, but I'm the same - no idea as to its purpose. | 00:17 |
| pwnguin | like i said, i wrote a parser and translator for it, and i still have no idea what it's purpose is | 00:18 |
| jayteeuk | In fact we don't make use of even a small percentage of what Eclipse can do. | 00:18 |
| pwnguin | when the new eclipse came out, i took a look at it and they mentioned BIRT again; turns out i guess its like an open source crystal reports | 00:18 |
| jayteeuk | Ah, right | 00:18 |
| pwnguin | business something something something | 00:19 |
| jayteeuk | Now you put it like that, possibly business intelligence reporting tool or something. | 00:19 |
| pwnguin | i think you got it | 00:19 |
| pwnguin | there's a line in Stephenson's Snow Crash | 00:20 |
| pwnguin | about someone who works for a place as a programmer, who has no idea what it is the program actually does | 00:20 |
| pwnguin | after that project, i now understand that it is indeed possible | 00:20 |
| * jayteeuk whistles innocently. | 00:21 | |
| pwnguin | also, i may have either proved the chinese room, or disproved my own intelligence | 00:21 |
| jayteeuk | So I have to ask, what prompted your post about Eclipse? | 00:22 |
| pwnguin | anyways, step 5 on your list: ask for details on what needs to be done from doko | 00:22 |
| pwnguin | jayteeuk: i have friends who need something like it | 00:22 |
| pwnguin | it occasionally works | 00:22 |
| jayteeuk | "I have this friend..." :-P | 00:22 |
| pwnguin | his name is Dave | 00:22 |
| pwnguin | plus, it would really help Ubuntu's viability in certain large embedded nagivation firms | 00:23 |
| pwnguin | finally, because im an idiot and haven't tried monodevelop for anything besides mono | 00:25 |
| pwnguin | directhex: can i debug C++ with monodevelop? | 00:25 |
| jayteeuk | I just want to see Eclipse shipped by default in Ubuntu because I like it and don't have an inclination to try anything else at the moment. | 00:25 |
| pwnguin | when I was a TA for undergraduate operating systems, we showed students DDD | 00:26 |
| directhex | pwnguin, i haven't tested it extensively, but there's | 00:26 |
| directhex | C++ support and GDB integration, so presumably some combination of the two | 00:26 |
| directhex | let's give it a try | 00:26 |
| pwnguin | this is a suboptimal debugger; something else would help alleviate the torture that class becomes | 00:26 |
| pwnguin | man, it's 30 minutes to quittin time | 00:28 |
| jayteeuk | I don't know DDD. I've only used GDB and Java's debugger. | 00:28 |
| pwnguin | DDD is an old graphical frontend to gdb | 00:28 |
| jayteeuk | D'oh, another late night for me. | 00:28 |
| jayteeuk | I think I used something called xgdb once? | 00:29 |
| directhex | pwnguin, seems helluva buggy, but it broke on a breakpoint and highlighted the right line, so that's something | 00:29 |
| pwnguin | jayteeuk: once you're comfortable with building eclipse and whatnot, I'll see about who you should talk to | 00:29 |
| pwnguin | directhex: heh | 00:29 |
| directhex | pwnguin, the only debugger people mention around me at work is DDT | 00:30 |
| directhex | pwnguin, in my spare time, i also use mdb | 00:30 |
| jayteeuk | pwnguin: Thanks. I'll let it grow organically - baby steps, get the thing working first! | 00:30 |
| pwnguin | directhex: it doesn't help that nachOS uses a user library to do thread switching | 00:31 |
| pwnguin | instead of libpthread | 00:31 |
| jayteeuk | I'll have to brief my wife on which environment to select when Flash player overheats my CPU and shuts down the laptop again. :) | 00:32 |
| pwnguin | i donno why, but all flashplayer videos seem to peg at 100 percent | 00:32 |
| pwnguin | download the flv and give it to totem, runs fine | 00:33 |
| pwnguin | but given that firefox does the same thing to .ogg | 00:33 |
| pwnguin | im blaming the web | 00:33 |
| directhex | pwnguin, short version: adobe are chimps | 00:33 |
| jayteeuk | Don't hold back now. | 00:34 |
| pwnguin | well, after my last attempt at thinking it through failed so hard i mistook YUV for CMYK | 00:35 |
| pwnguin | i'm refraining from further idiocy | 00:35 |
| pwnguin | directhex: fyi, that patch was applied in 2006 | 00:36 |
| directhex | pwnguin, i should bloody hope it was applied in 2001!# | 00:37 |
| pwnguin | ? | 00:37 |
| jayteeuk | Right, well... it's heading quickly towards 1am, and I have to be up for work in just over 6 hours... I guess I'm not going to get a dual boot sorted now. | 00:37 |
| pwnguin | if other people have a suggestion that's faster, by all means | 00:38 |
| pwnguin | i won't be offended | 00:38 |
| jayteeuk | I hadn't actually thought about it, but it seems the best option to me. | 00:40 |
| jayteeuk | I hadn't even considered that I'd need to be running Karmic actually, but when you mentioned it my thoughts were "VM, probably too slow. chroot, didn't enjoy that experience." | 00:41 |
| pwnguin | well, if your end goal is depending on external libraries | 00:42 |
| pwnguin | you dont want to be running karmic on jaunty :) | 00:43 |
| jayteeuk | Hahah, no. Obvious now it's been pointed out! | 00:43 |
| jayteeuk | I suspect I'll be submitting patches to a lot more packages than just eclipse. | 00:43 |
| pwnguin | good to hear! | 00:44 |
| jayteeuk | Through necessity - my (admittedly limited) understanding is that at least some of the external packages we want to depend on need this OSGi work doing to them. | 00:45 |
| jayteeuk | That's another thing for me to learn. :) | 00:46 |
| jayteeuk | This should be a lot of fun and very beneficial for my career. | 00:47 |
| jayteeuk | With luck and some hard work, I'd like to use it to support an application for Ubuntu membership. | 00:49 |
| jayteeuk | pwnguin: Thanks for all the help, hopefully I'll 'see' you again tomorrow. | 01:00 |
| jayteeuk | directhex: Thanks for the conversation - hope Mono works out for you. ;) | 01:00 |
| Laney | What's wrong with "libghc6-agda-dev (<< ${source:Upstream-Version}.1~),"? | 01:14 |
| * lajjr rebooting | 02:27 | |
| stochastic | does anyone feel like doing a REVU on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/a2jmidid | 04:24 |
| AnAnt | Hello, should I subscribe u-u-s to LP 402874 ? | 06:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 402874 in sl-modem "Candidate revision sl-modem_2.9.11~20090222-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402874 | 06:23 |
| AnAnt | there is no fix attached to this bug, I just said that I'm not sure wether it should be a sync or merge and explain the situation | 06:27 |
| stochastic | This package REVU only needs one more advocation http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/xwax Anyone have a second? | 07:07 |
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| noodles775 | Hey wgrant! You might be able to answer a packaging question that I've got at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pocketsphinx ? If you've time, could you take a look? | 08:39 |
| noodles775 | I'm just keen to know if I can check a package in pbuilder that is dependent on another as-yet unpublished package (ie. can you pass it in to pbuilder somehow) | 08:39 |
| wgrant | I'd do a 'pbuilder login' | 08:40 |
| noodles775 | I saw you can pass in extra dependencies, but that seems to be just other published packages that are not normally in the pbuilder default env. | 08:40 |
| wgrant | That gives you a shell. | 08:40 |
| noodles775 | Oh? | 08:40 |
| noodles775 | Ah OK, I'll try that, thanks! | 08:40 |
| wgrant | Then you can install the dependencies, and debuild -b | 08:40 |
| noodles775 | Perfect... btw, wgrant are you motu (ie. can I pester you to do a review occasionally?) | 08:41 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I am, so sure. | 08:41 |
| geser | good morning | 08:41 |
| noodles775 | Thanks! | 08:41 |
| noodles775 | Morning geser | 08:41 |
| wgrant | Morning geser. | 08:42 |
| maxb | noodles775: The other option is to set up a local apt repository for your pbuilder, and configure pbuilder to bindmount it into the chroot | 08:46 |
| maxb | I use a shell script like lp:~maxb/+junk/apt-generate/ to generate the Packages / Release etc. files | 08:47 |
| lifeless | noodles775: hi, were you seeking me the other day? | 08:48 |
| noodles775 | maxb: OK... thanks. I'll try just logging in first - as a one-off solution it seems simpler. But if I need to do this more often I'll try the local apt repo. Thanks! | 08:48 |
| noodles775 | lifeless: Hi! I just wasn't sure how to go about getting a review, but geser has taken a look for me (for sphinxbase). | 08:48 |
| lifeless | ok cool | 08:50 |
| lifeless | I saw your mail; just a little swamped - bzr2.0 soon and there are still some major regressions in the new format [edge cases, but important ones] | 08:51 |
| noodles775 | lifeless: Yes, I realised after sending the email that it was probably a really bad time :) Hope it all goes well! | 08:52 |
| lifeless | thanks | 08:56 |
| gaspa | david_mentre: hi | 09:34 |
| mschering | Can I ask someone about uploading packages to REVU? | 09:57 |
| mschering | I've uploaded my package with dput successfully but it doesn't show up on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ | 09:57 |
| david_mentre | gaspa: hello andrea | 09:59 |
| mschering | Anyone? | 10:00 |
| noodles775 | mschering: it usually takes 5mins to be scanned I think | 10:03 |
| mschering | I've been waiting much longer | 10:04 |
| noodles775 | Hmmm... can you paste the command and output of dput that you ran (at pastebin.ubuntu.com)? | 10:04 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: Do I really need to manually install all dependencies? I think I'm doing something wrong: | 10:05 |
| noodles775 | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/224184/ | 10:05 |
| mschering | just pasted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/224185/ | 10:06 |
| noodles775 | mschering: it's a new package then? | 10:07 |
| mschering | yes | 10:08 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Maybe try /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi | 10:08 |
| gaspa | david_mentre: sync has been acked. we should wait a little, now. | 10:09 |
| wgrant | mschering: Let me look at REVU for you. | 10:10 |
| wgrant | mschering: You need to upload the _source.changes, not the _i386.changes. | 10:11 |
| wgrant | mschering: Make you sure call debuild with -S. | 10:11 |
| mschering | Ah ok | 10:12 |
| mschering | It's a web app and it's actually always a source package | 10:12 |
| mschering | I'll try again with -S | 10:12 |
| wgrant | Not in Debian terms. | 10:12 |
| mschering | OK thanks for the help. I'll try again. | 10:13 |
| david_mentre | gaspa: well, the ocaml packages are still in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive//sync-blacklist.txt | 10:13 |
| gaspa | david_mentre: yeah, we should wait a little for an archive-admin to remove it from the blacklist. | 10:14 |
| AnAnt | Hello, should I subscribe u-u-s to LP 402874 ? | 10:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 402874 in sl-modem "Candidate revision sl-modem_2.9.11~20090222-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402874 | 10:46 |
| AnAnt | there is no fix attached to this bug, I just said that I'm not sure wether it should be a sync or merge and explain the situation | 10:46 |
| slytherin | coolbhavi: When creating a merged package, you should use 'debuild -v<last_ubuntu_version> -S -sa' That way even the Debian changes appear in the .changes file. | 10:58 |
| coolbhavi | yes slytherin | 10:58 |
| coolbhavi | I do | 10:58 |
| slytherin | coolbhavi: You didn't do it for pbuilder. | 10:59 |
| coolbhavi | slytherin, okay maybe I missed | 10:59 |
| Laney | it's the uploader who has to do that | 11:00 |
| coolbhavi | Laney, okay | 11:00 |
| Laney | so unless you're a core-dev, it wasn't your fault | 11:00 |
| coolbhavi | okay | 11:01 |
| mok0 | coolbhavi: *phew* :-) | 11:01 |
| coolbhavi | mok0, hi | 11:02 |
| coolbhavi | mok0, I do 5 a day when I am in term holidays :) othertime I dont have time to contribute | 11:03 |
| slytherin | Ahh, my mistake. I assumed coolbhavi is MOTU. | 11:04 |
| coolbhavi | slytherin, not yet | 11:04 |
| coolbhavi | slytherin, busy with final year in studies .. ll apply later | 11:05 |
| Laney | it's in main anyway | 11:05 |
| slytherin | Laney: yup, just checked that. | 11:05 |
| coolbhavi | slytherin, pbuilder was sponsored by mvo | 11:08 |
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| noodles775 | wgrant: I think I must be misunderstanding how pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi works... I assumed that it would use /var/cache/pbuilder/apt-cache for the dependencies? | 11:29 |
| noodles775 | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/224235/ | 11:29 |
| wgrant | noodles775: No, apt won't know about that. | 11:30 |
| wgrant | noodles775: You'll have to install the unavailable deps manually first. | 11:30 |
| james_w | you can use a hook to make built debs available to pbuilder | 11:31 |
| james_w | http://paste.ubuntu.com/224244/ | 11:32 |
| james_w | save that as in your pbuilder hooks directory as D10_use_result and make it executable | 11:33 |
| james_w | then call pbuilder with "--bindmounts /var/cache/pbuilder/result/" | 11:33 |
| noodles775 | Thanks james_w | 11:34 |
| slytherin | or configure bindmounts in pbuilderrc | 11:34 |
| noodles775 | yep, I've got bindmounts configured to mount the results directory. | 11:34 |
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| juli_ | Hi MOTUs. Could you, please, take a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libcobertura-java . I need this package for netbeans update. | 11:40 |
| slytherin | juli_: I will take a look. I didn't find time yesterday to deal with svn adapter | 11:53 |
| slytherin | :-( | 11:53 |
| slytherin | juli_: done | 12:10 |
| Laney | :( | 12:11 |
| Laney | need to merge cdbs for a new package | 12:12 |
| AnAnt | debhelper now builds for several python version | 12:14 |
| AnAnt | dh_auto_{build|install} I mean | 12:14 |
| james_w | ooh | 12:14 |
| AnAnt | james_w: and it supports ant build system now | 12:14 |
| AnAnt | but that's in experimental | 12:15 |
| AnAnt | actually both of those additions are in experimental | 12:15 |
| AnAnt | btw, with javahelper 0.20, you can do: dh --with javahelper | 12:17 |
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| DktrKranz | Laney: if you manage to merge it, please also address bug 401953 | 13:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 401953 in cdbs "cdbs creates empty bogus directories if Python files are not installed in /usr/lib/python*" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401953 | 13:07 |
| juli_ | slytherin, thank you! I'll correct the package. | 13:08 |
| DktrKranz | AnAnt: yeah, I played with it a bit last night, very nice job. It needs some attention on *.install files, though | 13:08 |
| AnAnt | DktrKranz: what are you talking about ? | 13:12 |
| Laney | DktrKranz: does the bug happen in debian too? | 13:13 |
| DktrKranz | AnAnt: support for several python versions in dh7 | 13:13 |
| AnAnt | oh | 13:13 |
| DktrKranz | Laney: no, it's Py2.6-related | 13:14 |
| AnAnt | DktrKranz: so, what attention do you mean ? | 13:14 |
| DktrKranz | AnAnt: files are stored under debian/tmp, so you have to provide some debian/*.install files to actually move files in the right binary package | 13:15 |
| AnAnt | DktrKranz: can't you do dh_auto_install -p<package name> ? | 13:16 |
| AnAnt | DktrKranz: to avoid installing in debian/tmp | 13:16 |
| DktrKranz | AnAnt: I usually do some override, with dh_auto_install -- --root=somewhere | 13:17 |
| DktrKranz | but if you have tiny rules, you have to either adjust it or provide .install files | 13:18 |
| AnAnt | -- ? | 13:18 |
| DktrKranz | -- passes the rest of the line as option to dh_auto_install | 13:18 |
| DktrKranz | which it passes to setup.py, in case of distutils packages | 13:19 |
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| * hyperair thinks liferea has *big* issues with being responsive | 13:20 | |
| hyperair | bah, i removed apport once. how did it appear on my system again? | 13:23 |
| * hyperair growls at apport | 13:23 | |
| directhex | * apport retraces hyperair | 13:25 |
| hyperair | yeah that's what i seriously hate. | 13:27 |
| rgreening | ScottK: ping | 13:41 |
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| noodles-afk | wgrant: if you get a chance, I think the following is ready for review: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pocketsphinx | 13:55 |
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| bddebian | Heya folks | 14:05 |
| iulian | Hi bddebian. | 14:07 |
| bddebian | Heya iulian | 14:08 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Pong. | 14:13 |
| slytherin | bddebian: Did you verify if you are still a MOTU. :-) | 14:15 |
| bddebian | slytherin: No :( | 14:16 |
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| Laney | gaspa: merging ghc6 | 16:46 |
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| gaspa | Laney: \o/ | 16:49 |
| Laney | Uploading ghc6_6.10.4-1ubuntu1_source.changes: done. | 16:53 |
| Laney | Successfully uploaded packages. | 16:53 |
| Laney | once this is published, sync haddock, then reupload with the b-d-i back in | 16:54 |
| Laney | then the world is broken and we get to rebuild everything again | 16:54 |
| * DktrKranz likes broken stuff | 16:55 | |
| DktrKranz | Laney: did you manage to get that recap webpage somewhere? | 16:56 |
| Laney | DktrKranz: No it kept giving blank output and I don't know enough OCaml to fix it | 16:58 |
| Laney | but kaol has written a NMUtool that we should be able to hack into working | 16:58 |
| DktrKranz | Laney: that would help a lot, I managed a bit of haskell transitions, and sequence is the key | 16:59 |
| Laney | indeed | 16:59 |
| ScottK | The good news is with the Alpha 3 freeze on now the buildds should be pretty free. | 17:01 |
| Laney | out for a few hours | 17:03 |
| Laney | I'll upload the last bits when I get back | 17:03 |
| Laney | bye | 17:03 |
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| kamalnandan | Hi.. | 18:50 |
| kamalnandan | what is "debuild" command | 18:51 |
| kamalnandan | folks...what is debuild command in Ubuntu packaging? | 18:56 |
| geser | man debuild (install devscripts if needed) | 18:58 |
| kamalnandan | geser: when i do "apt-get install devscripts", it starts doenloading the scripts but on the telnet window(from where I gave the apt-get command) opens a terminal whose bckground is blue in color...and it asks us to accept... | 19:02 |
| kamalnandan | but how do we do this? | 19:02 |
| kamalnandan | how do we handle the problem that I have??? | 19:04 |
| dcraven | kamalnandan: I'll take a stab and say that Tab might cycle through your dialog choices? | 19:17 |
| kamalnandan | dcraven..thanks for your reply... | 19:23 |
| kamalnandan | folks..bye for today..its 12 am now | 19:23 |
| kamalnandan | byw | 19:23 |
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| rgreening | ScottK: ping | 19:43 |
| rgreening | ScottK: what are your thoughts on combinging two src tgz into one (tac-plus + webui)? I believe they should be packaged together, but upstream has them seperate (I think for dev purpose, but they go hand in hand... one no good without the other). | 19:45 |
| rgreening | ScottK: so I was thinking on repacking to jion into one so it can be managed easier. I'd still generate two debs with proper suggest/recommend. Otherwise, it would be two seperate source uploads | 19:46 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I believe the author still has it separate as 1) no distro has it packaged and 2) he has an older webui some were using. | 19:47 |
| rgreening | ScottK: the other reason I wanted to join was to create a meta package to install the daemon + webui, which most users would install (it seems cleaner as one src tgz then) | 19:48 |
| rgreening | ScottK-desktop: ^ | 19:48 |
| ScottK | rgreening: You can combine them, but generally, I don't think it's a good idea. | 20:25 |
| ScottK | It can be painful from a maintainability perspective. | 20:25 |
| rgreening | ScottK: generally, I'd agree. In this case, I | 20:25 |
| rgreening | am working with auther to get the src together into svn or something... | 20:26 |
| rgreening | so, it'll be easier to maintain going forward... | 20:26 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I just proposed my idea to the auther. I hope he agrees so that the next release can be a single tgz (or at the very least distribute 3 src files (individual and a combined). | 20:38 |
| ScottK | rgreening: If so, then combining now isn't a big deal. | 20:38 |
| rgreening | exactly. I explained the reasons for doing it... he seemed agreeable to my other suggestions and 3 patches. so... | 20:39 |
| rgreening | ScottK: I think he's pretty much a lone developer/supported for this package. Any help I guess is really welcome :) | 20:39 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi. I have 5 patches in a packages managed by cdbs and simple-patchsys, and one patch is not applied. Any idea why this could happen? | 20:40 |
| ScottK | fabrice_sp: What's the name of the patch file? | 20:40 |
| fabrice_sp | python2.6-fix.patch seems to be split at build time between python2.6.patch that is not applied and a python2.6-fix.patch that is applied | 20:42 |
| fabrice_sp | pfff: forget it: the patch python2.6.patch is patched within python2.6-fix.patch | 20:44 |
| fabrice_sp | I think debian didn't adopted well my original patch | 20:44 |
| fabrice_sp | ScottK, ^ | 20:44 |
| === bastiao__ is now known as k0p | ||
| brettalton | Is it possible for me to get mentored to packaged both Code Igniter and Kohana, both php frameworks? | 22:08 |
| brettalton | I've been very interested in doing so for both projects, especially because they will have very little dependencies, so I figured they'd be good projects to learn how to package | 22:08 |
| nellery | brettalton: if you're interested in a getting a mentor see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring | 22:26 |
| === vorian is now known as heHATEme | ||
| asomething | I see ghc6 6.10.4-1ubuntu1 was uploaded. Anyone coordinating the transition? | 23:21 |
| asomething | The funny thing is that just yesterday I rebuilt some packages that had never made the 6.10.3 transition... Guess their un-installable again.. | 23:25 |
| directhex | fta, is this gwibber package of yours functional? i can't get it to do anything useful | 23:29 |
| fta | directhex, which one? | 23:30 |
| directhex | 0.9.1~bzr255-0ubuntu1~fta1 | 23:30 |
| fta | old | 23:30 |
| directhex | really? | 23:30 |
| fta | gwibber | 1.2.0~bzr349-0ubuntu1~daily1 | http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages | 23:31 |
| fta | gwibber | 1.2.0~bzr346-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages | 23:31 |
| directhex | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main #fta PPA | 23:31 |
| directhex | ? | 23:31 |
| fta | directhex, did you read the header of my ppa in the last 6 months? | 23:32 |
| directhex | fta, i don't make a habit of it | 23:32 |
| directhex | and LP's down | 23:32 |
| fta | it's the only communication vector for PPAs i'm afraid | 23:33 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/~gwibber-daily/+archive/ppa | 23:33 |
| fta | so something like deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwibber-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main | 23:33 |
| directhex | i should really SRU gtwitter to fix the twitpocalypse | 23:34 |
| fta | upstream is unable to create proper releases, so dailies are probably the best things you can run | 23:34 |
| fta | esp. as the identi.ca api is such a fast moving target | 23:34 |
| awe | kirkland: ping | 23:50 |
| kirkland | awe: yo | 23:51 |
| awe | if i'm looking at a merge, and the only change between the ubuntu version & debian, is an updated Standards-Version in the control file, should that be punted in favor of a sync? | 23:52 |
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