asac_net problems at irc gateway00:00
asac__now back here ;)00:01
bluekujawe have multiple asacs now00:01
* BUGabundo wonders where here is00:01
asac__here == my primary irssi screen ;)00:01
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ftareed__, does 3.6 has a codename already?00:21
reed__yes, Namaroka00:22
reed__I can't spell :)00:22
ftaanother park?00:22
reed__they are all parks00:23
reed__every one of our code names00:23
reed__are parks00:23
ftaok, good00:23
reed__is a park*00:23
BUGabundofta: it was already on wikipedia00:24
ftaand https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Namoroka00:25
ftaonce you have the name, it's easy to find00:25
BUGabundois it me or is notify-osd font size SMALLER?00:27
ftait is00:28
ftait's almost unreadable, tiny font on semi-transparent background, it's blurry00:29
ftaBUGabundo, ^^00:29
ftaBUGabundo, but if it's just to read your tests, it's all fine00:29
* BUGabundo slaps fta around with a wet towel00:30
BUGabundoyeah its smaller, less readable00:31
BUGabundoand when mouse is over, (at least without nvidia driver so no composite) very blurry00:31
ftaasac, seems a big(?) part of lp is missing, there's a bunch of symlinks to ../sourcecode/xxx (outside of the branch), unless i missed something01:11
ftaBUGabundo, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-popcon-3.png01:11
asacfta: file a bug. who knows what those symlinks are01:15
reed__fta: remember, closed source == better, in launchpad's eyes01:15
ftaasac, i didn't use the script, i just cloned the branch01:16
asacyeah. maybe they are filled when using the script01:17
asacor they are left overs from best-practices developmenet deployments ;)01:17
asacor simply bugs01:17
asacfta: that looks like something that might get build01:17
ftayou build in ../sourcecode/ ?01:18
asace.g. loom is definitly free software too01:18
asacwho knows. maybe they put the in-source generated stuff in lib/..01:18
ftathat's from the root of trunk01:19
asacyeah. try the script01:19
asacmost likely it makes a tree combined from multiple bzr things01:19
ftano, it will break my system.01:19
asaci havent looked so i cant help ... #launchpad-dev exists01:20
ftai'm not looking for help, i'm just looking01:20
asacyeah. check what the script does. maybe you can find the pieces01:20
asacor what it runs to pull the pieces01:21
asaci would think if it pulls something there would a command/script/rule for that part01:21
ftai see nothing that could add the missing ../sourcecode/01:25
asacnot sure. is that the complete build? maybe subscomponents have their own build stuff etc?01:26
e-jat!ping asac05:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ping asac05:07
micahgsilly bot...05:08
micahghe's probably still sleeping05:08
e-jatowh ..05:08
micahghe's UTC +1 or +205:09
micahgI think...05:09
e-jatmicahg: http://imagebin.ca/view/ZLPiOLk9.html05:09
e-jatis it a bugs or else .. seem like ff 3.0.11 work well05:09
e-jatits happend at most of submit form at any website05:10
e-jatshiretoko n minefield :(05:10
e-jatmicahg: any idea about that?05:11
micahgwhat happens on google.com?05:11
micahgsame thing?05:11
e-jatyeah ..05:11
e-jatlong form05:11
micahgbug 38302005:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 383020 in firefox-3.5 "Some input fields are several times longer than normal" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38302005:12
micahgdo you have a special font as the system default?05:12
e-jatowh ok ..05:13
e-jattheres someone already report the bugs ..05:13
e-jatspecial font ?05:13
e-jatyeah . i do .05:13
e-jati use Lucida Grande ..05:14
micahgthat'll do it05:14
e-jatis it the course?05:14
micahgit's weird05:14
e-jatic ..05:14
micahgthe ubuntu bug has the upstream listed05:14
e-jatbut .. for 3.0.11 seem ok05:14
e-jatok ..05:14
* e-jat just wait the bugs get fixed :)05:14
micahgif you can add anything to the upstream report, go for it05:15
e-jatthanks micahg for da info .. at least i know its already get triaged05:15
* e-jat otw ..05:15
micahgyou don't have any special powers in teh mozilla tracker do you?05:16
e-jatit also happen in 3.605:17
e-jati dont think so ..05:17
micahgprobably something to do with teh code rewrite from 1.9 to 1.9.105:18
e-jat So if others could try setting05:18
e-jattheir fonts to Lucida Grande and see if they can reproduce the issue, perhaps05:18
e-jatwe can fix this permanently.05:18
* e-jat creating account at mozilla05:19
micahgthe workaround is aparently to change the font to Liberation Sans05:19
micahgyou can vote for it :)05:20
* e-jat yeah for sure ill do ..05:21
micahgyou have the upstream bug no?05:21
e-jatbecause .. it work well with 3.0.1105:21
e-jatjust now u given me :)05:21
ubottuMozilla bug 500550 in General "Text input displayed too wide when certain fonts are used" [Minor,Unconfirmed]05:22
micahgit worked fine in 3.0.11 with the same system?05:22
micahgYou can note that in a comment05:22
micahgthe OP posted it05:23
micahgyou can still vote for it :)05:23
e-jatsubmit it :)05:25
micahgsubmit what?05:26
e-jatcomment :)05:28
micahgnah, no need unless you're adding something05:28
e-jatowh .. so i submit the imagebin link can ?05:28
micahgno need, unless it shows something the current atttachment doesn't05:29
e-jatto make sure it not happend to google.com page only05:29
e-jator it not neccessary ?05:29
micahgthat was still google wasn't it?05:29
e-jatowh my mistake.. can i remove it ?05:32
e-jator will ya ..05:32
* e-jat my bad..05:34
micahgIt's ok05:36
micahgyou can leave it there05:36
e-jathope it will be decide in short time :)05:43
Paddy_NIHey asac09:04
asachi Paddy_NI09:05
* asac yawns still09:05
Paddy_NIYeah its one of those mornings09:06
Paddy_NII am getting ridiculous lag at the moment... mobile broadband09:07
asacyeah. thats mobile broadband09:07
Paddy_NIMakes helping out on #ubuntu a real pain09:07
asaci can guess that09:09
asacNote that although we announced previously that we'd be holding back two09:11
asaccomponents (codehosting and soyuz), we changed our minds :-).  They are09:11
asacopened too -- all the code is open.  See here for details:09:11
asacfta: ^09:12
asachmm. didnt i post that yesterday too?09:12
Paddy_NIheh cool :D09:12
Paddy_NINot that I had seen anyway09:12
Paddy_NIcheers that's excellent news09:13
asacit was that we wondered yesterday whether there were still parts closed, which seems to be not the casde09:21
* asac fights with bzr automagic tagging in debcommit09:44
asacfta: its really crazy ... are really all orig.tar.gz in our dailies kept till eow?10:50
asacseems the .debs really get removed10:50
asacis the first 1.9.1 i can find ;)10:50
asacsounds like it might match when we started 1.9.2 dailies10:51
asacbut ok. its just 600*30 origs for xul 1.9.210:51
asace.g. 18 GB10:51
asacbut for chromium its probably more annoying10:51
ftaasac, ~40GB11:11
asacok i think the BadWindow thing should be fixed in trunk dailies11:20
EruditeHermithey guys is there a PPA with just firefox 3.5.1 release?11:43
asacEruditeHermit: for what?11:44
EruditeHermitasac: to use?11:44
asacEruditeHermit: jaunty -> jaunty-security11:45
EruditeHermitoh its in jaunty?11:45
EruditeHermithow come I don't have it11:45
asacand its up-to-date in -security11:45
asacEruditeHermit: its a separate package so you can install it side-by-side11:45
asacand even run it side by side11:45
asacits ment to be a "preview" ... and a service we provide for firefox friends11:46
asacinstall firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support11:46
EruditeHermitwhat about to replace firefox on the system11:47
asacno such package available atm11:47
asacyou can remove firefox-3.0 ;)11:47
asacbut that will break the searchplugins (bug!)11:47
EruditeHermitwell I'll keep it11:47
EruditeHermitdoes it show up as shiretoko?11:48
asacwe only brand the default browser officially11:48
asacwell. i guess you can live with it11:48
ubottuFF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation11:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ffox3511:49
ubottuFirefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:49
EruditeHermityeah yeah11:49
EruditeHermitbring on karmic11:49
asacEruditeHermit: will happen soon on karmic11:49
asacalpha3 is out on thu ... then we start transitioning and hopefully for a4 we have 3.5 as our default11:50
gnomefreakgdm is still broken (again)11:50
asac!ff35 | gnomefreak11:50
ubottugnomefreak: Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:50
asaccan you please update that so it also suggests to install firefox-3.5-gnome-support11:50
asaci think i can do that too, but dont remember the syntax11:50
gnomefreaki have it installed11:51
gnomefreakand set to default11:51
asacgnomefreak: i mean: can you please update the bot text ;)11:51
asace.g. ... by installing the package firefox-3.5  => ... by installing the package firefox-3.5 (and firefox-3.5-gnome-support)11:51
EruditeHermitubufox is not campatible11:52
gnomefreakgood no thinking needed11:52
asacEruditeHermit: in jaunty? yes. in karmic, its compatible11:52
asaci think we might want to consider a SRU for that11:53
gnomefreak!no firefox-3.5 is <reply> Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:54
ubottuI'll remember that gnomefreak11:54
gnomefreakubottu: thanks11:54
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)11:54
gnomefreakubottu: i know11:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about i know11:54
gnomefreakwhy would you11:55
ubottuFirefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:55
gnomefreakasac: work for you?11:55
gnomefreak!firefox-3.5 karmic11:55
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:55
asacgnomefreak: yes. thanks11:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ffox3511:55
ubottuFirefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:56
asacgnomefreak: its not updated :(11:56
asacsee ^11:56
gnomefreakyeah thinking of how to alais it11:56
gnomefreaki cant remember the command11:56
asac!no ff35 is <reply> Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:57
gnomefreakasac: alis is better but i have to spell it right11:57
asacseems i got thrown out of the editors group ;)11:57
gnomefreakasac: you may have to log in first anyway11:58
asacgnomefreak: log in where? to freenode or to bot?11:58
asaci am logged in11:58
asaci dont mind ;)11:58
gnomefreakasac: try typing @whoami11:58
ubottuFirefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY11:59
ubottuuse @whoami11:59
asacdoesnt work for me ;)11:59
gnomefreakim seeing that11:59
asacso i am not known ;)11:59
asacubottu: whoami11:59
ubottuuse @whoami11:59
asacubottu: @whoami12:00
asacstupid bot ;)12:00
gnomefreakasac: try @login12:03
gnomefreakthere is a way to set it to log in automagicly but dont remember :(12:03
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-mozillateam's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:03
asac@help login12:05
asacubottu: help12:05
asacubottu: !login12:06
asacbad bot12:06
bluekujaasac, you need to wait nickserv to update12:09
bluekujaasac, if you just logged in, it takes a while to refresh the cache12:09
asaci think i logged in like 12 hours ago :-P12:09
bluekujait doesnt work for me too12:09
bluekujamaybe it's lagging badly12:10
bluekujaubottu: whoami12:10
gnomefreaklol asac did you get a pm from bot?12:12
gnomefreakbluekuja: you have to use @12:12
gnomefreakok be back i need to be briefed on what is going on in #...-ops12:12
gnomefreakbluekuja: you werent added to edit bot so the @ commands wont work (ther eis one command that will work but thats because ! gives you something else)12:17
bluekujagnomefreak, oh ok12:17
bluekujaworks now?12:17
gnomefreaklook for a pm from bot he should explain it12:18
bluekujano pms12:19
bluekuja: /12:19
gnomefreaknow that ther eis an irc council getting anyone bot privledges is a pain in the ass and i would hav eto look it up again. i havent done any of my op things in long time12:20
bluekujait lagged out12:20
gnomefreakasac: thunderbird is fixed just have to push changes and sunbird is fixed :) im not real sure what is next but im going slow today for a while until coffee kinks in. any ubufox i will look at if you have any12:23
gnomefreakasac: ok tbird2 branc is pushed not populated but pushed12:37
gnomefreak:) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/thunderbird/thunderbird2.dev anything i need to change let me know kind of early while im not pulling my hair out yet12:38
gnomefreakok so i forgot the word "version"12:39
asacgnomefreak: you should really use topic branch names ;)12:39
gnomefreakin both entries12:40
asacbug 40116512:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401165 in thunderbird "build dependency on GCC-4.3 [armel]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40116512:40
gnomefreakasac: what do you mean thunderbird2/thunderbird.dev isnt right?12:40
asacgnomefreak: well. your branch name should have been more like: thunderbird.lp40116512:40
gnomefreakasac: that would be alot of changing if i fix other bugs in it12:41
asacgnomefreak: in that way you do not need to delete it after it was merged12:41
asacso you keep it for your children12:41
asacjust mark it merged ... next time create a new branch with a good topicname12:41
asacgnomefreak: you should just submit one branch per bug12:41
asacthats a good guidline12:41
gnomefreakasac: good point12:41
asacgnomefreak: or give it a nother topic like month: thunderbird.gnomefreaks.jul.fixes112:42
asacgnomefreak: or give it a nother topic like month: thunderbird.gnomefreaks.jul09.fixes112:42
asacbe innovative. but bug numbers usually work well12:42
asacgnomefreak: you can rename your branch in launchpad12:42
asacgnomefreak: maybe do that so i can merge it and then you can mark it merged ;)12:43
gnomefreak:) i can change it12:43
asacgnomefreak: yeah. use thunderbird.lp40116512:43
gnomefreakasac: did you merge ff brnach so i can marked that lerged12:43
asacand request a merge if you want to do it right ;)12:43
asacgnomefreak: the merge request will be automatically flagged as merge ... so i think you should see an email and then you can mark the branch merged too12:43
asaci didnt do that yet12:43
asacmy bad12:43
asaci approved it though12:44
asacso you could probably already mark it as merged12:44
* gnomefreak looks for target branch for tbird12:44
gnomefreakfound it12:45
gnomefreakasac: ok tbird is ready for review when you get time12:46
gnomefreakupdates > email > something else12:47
gnomefreaksomething else can be replaced with anything that is needed12:47
gnomefreakasac: my sunbird branch is using normal name since it is my main branch (hope you can deal with versioning since i pushed ubuntu6 to PPA by mistake (before i got to fix branch12:58
gnomefreakbug 38679713:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 386797 in launchpad-foundations "Enable distributed content development" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38679713:03
gnomefreakdoes anyone not see the video on http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2784428569/13:25
gnomefreaki see it fine too seems wolfger doesnt13:28
gnomefreakasac: look at bug 263442 for more info if you want it13:29
gnomefreak!info gnash-plugin-mozilla13:32
gnomefreakok what is the name of that app13:32
gnomefreakah found it13:32
gnomefreakdamn bot13:33
gnomefreakasac: what is the package name for epiphany-browser-webkit (not gecko)13:43
asacgnomefreak: epiphany-webkit13:59
asac!info mozilla-plugin-gnash13:59
ubottumozilla-plugin-gnash (source: gnash): free SWF movie player - Plugin for Mozilla and derivatives. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 39 kB, installed size 216 kB13:59
gnomefreakasac: thanks but it wasnt in hardy as i recall14:00
asacit is14:00
asacnot that version of course, but the package should be there14:00
gnomefreakoh cool14:01
gnomefreakoh crap14:01
gnomefreakcant remember bug # now14:01
asacthere shouldnt be soo many gnash bugs ... at lesat compared to ffox14:01
* gnomefreak getting pissed off at people not listening to help themselves14:02
gnomefreakasac: most i would say are swfdec-*14:02
asacyes swfdec is too slow14:02
gnomefreakits crap and not needed IMHO14:04
gnomefreakbut thats me14:04
* gnomefreak needs smoke before i get ban happy14:04
asacban-happy ... sounds like fun14:08
gnomefreak:) it can be14:17
gnomefreakasac: what did you do to ubufox? see bug 40280414:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 402804 in ubufox "Ubufox 0.8a1 does not respect my homepage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40280414:18
gnomefreaki have been checking email way too long becuase of the BS in -ops14:18
gnomefreakseems you set the search as home page (in links yes but not home page afaik14:19
gnomefreak!info firefox-3.5 karmic14:19
ubottufirefox-3.5 (source: firefox-3.5): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 931 kB, installed size 3580 kB14:19
asacgnomefreak: its not ubufox i think. i commented on the bug14:23
gnomefreakasac: thanks14:23
* gnomefreak thinking of taking the rest of day off. its a bit earlier than i thought i would 15:19
denisesballshey asac, saw you on this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/269188 , was curious if this fix is still needed in 8.04.3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu18:01
ubottuUbuntu bug 269188 in nspr "Extreme slowness, "Firefox is already running" error for >3 users launching Firefox in LTSP environment" [High,In progress]18:01
asacdenisesballs: i would think its needed, yes18:24
denisesballsok, cool. i did install it just to be safe but wanted to check18:25
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ftareed__, failed! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503597#c619:51
ubottuMozilla bug 503597 in Build Config "configure.in silently disables necko wifi when header is missing (Linux only)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]19:51
micahgasac, is bug 401859 a dupe of bug 107247?20:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401859 in firefox-3.5 "scrolling with keyboard doesn't always work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40185920:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 107247 in firefox "Launchpad bug pages trigger caret browsing in Firefox and other Gecko browsers" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10724720:00
reed__fta: I'll look in a bit20:01
reed__fta: a20:01
reed__dbaron got it20:01
james_wany reports of firefox screwing up its keep-alive handling?20:15
asacjames_w: regression?20:34
james_wI'm not entirely sure20:34
asacmicahg: from summary it seems so20:34
asacjames_w: there are a bunch of keep-alive reports open in bugzilla20:34
james_wI'll try downloading in a minute20:34
micahgasac: is it ok that the other bug is titled for LP only, I know the upstream wasn't20:35
asacjames_w: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=keep-alive&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=20:35
james_wI hit a page, it sends a keep-alive request, receives the response, I hit reload, and most of the time it will spin until the server closes the connection, and only then send the GET according to wireshark20:35
james_wepiphany has no such problem20:36
asacmicahg: asked for other websites20:36
asacmicahg: having more examples might help getting a minimal testcase20:36
asaci am not even sure mozilla folks will see the current caret problem as it just appeared on edge20:37
micahgI also see it on amd6420:37
micahgI noticed you marked upstream as x8620:37
asacjames_w: do you monitor this on server side or on client?20:37
james_wI'm both in this case20:37
james_wI was hitting a local webserver20:37
james_wasac: open https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16146420:38
ubottuMozilla bug 161464 in Networking "http 1.1 keep-alive doesnt' work" [Normal,New]20:38
james_wwait a minute20:38
james_whit reload, takes ~1.5s for me20:38
james_wcount to 320:38
asaci have to run ... will be back in 5 minutes20:38
james_whit reload, takes ~20s20:38
james_wwait another minute, hit reload, takes ~1.5s again20:39
asacjames_w: ffox 3.5?20:45
james_wjust about to try 3.520:45
asacjames_w: i dont see it here in 3.520:45
asacjames_w: works well here. extensions?20:47
james_w3.5 checks out ok20:47
james_wI'll test20:47
james_wwhat's the command to get a blank profile?20:47
asacif you find the extension that causes this let me know20:47
asacjames_w: run firefox -P20:47
asacto open the profile manager20:47
asacand create a new one20:48
asacjames_w: or run with -safe-mode20:48
asacbut some extensions still interfere badly20:48
micahgI see 3.0.12 was released20:48
james_wthis was a profile that I started fresh a month or so ago20:48
micahgCan  I start asking people to test with the new version?20:49
asacmicahg: you mean fix committed bugs?20:49
micahgcrashes we haven;t pinned down yet20:50
micahgDid we have any fix committed for FF3.0?20:50
asacmicahg: i dont think we had any crash fix committed no.20:51
james_wyeah, seems to be a plugin20:51
asacbut i think asking for crashes where there is no way to reproduce doesnt make much sense20:51
asacjames_w: if you have a list i could do a bet :)20:52
james_w"Tamper Data"20:52
james_was soon as you suggested plugin I though it might be that one :-)20:53
james_wif you have the window open but inactive then it screws up keep-alive20:53
asacwow. what is tamper data ;)20:53
asacnew to me20:53
asacsounds scary ;)20:53
james_wallows you to edit headers on the fly20:53
asacheh ok20:53
asacprobably there is header bustage then20:53
james_wit shouldn't get involved if it's inactive20:54
james_wbut I can live with closing the window when I'm not using it20:54
asacjames_w: do you have an extension to monitor whats going on? liveheaders works good for me20:54
james_wyeah, I use liveheaders as well20:54
micahgasac: I think I figured out part of the flash problem20:54
asacah ok. so you probably have setup rules that bust the thing20:54
asaclets not bother then20:54
micahgif a user installs a flash plugin intheir profile and then installs the system extension, flash won't work20:55
james_wbut I needed to send some weird headers for testing20:55
james_wthanks for your time20:55
asacmicahg: the multiple-flash-cause-confusion problem?20:55
micahgyeah, that's one version of it20:55
asacjames_w: np20:55
micahgI'm still trying to figure out the conflict between different flashes thingy20:55
asacmicahg: why wont flash work in that case?20:56
micahgI don't know20:56
asacyou mean if he installs two time the same flash version?20:56
micahgI think it might be trying to use both20:56
asacor if he has different versions?20:56
asacmicahg: that might be a bug20:56
micahgno, version 9 is installed in teh profile, version 10 as a .deb20:56
micahgI think so20:56
micahgI have to check upstream20:56
asacmicahg: does it feel like it tries to use different engines alternating?20:56
asace.g. one flash film use this, the other that and so on20:56
micahgit's a theory at the moemnt20:56
micahgI haven't tested20:56
asacmicahg: do you see anything on the console?20:57
micahgbut from most of the cases I've seen over the past few months it makes sense20:57
micahgI'll have to test it over the weekend20:57
asacmicahg: please check if it works with upstream build20:57
micahgas in I should download the tarball and try it?20:58
asaclike linking our sys plugin to the upstream build plugins/ dir20:58
asacright. unpack upstream build. there is a plugins dir i guess. link the plugin that we have system wide in it with  ln -s20:58
asacand then start with same profile that has the profile flash20:58
micahgI'll have to try that over the wekend20:58
e-jatasac: the adobe reader issue still under triage right?21:01
micahgasac: bug 291817 is won't fix for ff3, right?21:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 291817 in firefox-3.5 "Click on the back button doesn't scroll the previous page to the previous position" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29181721:15
BUGabundohey hey21:39
BUGabundoguys installed daily ppa ff 3.6 (for jaunty) in debian experimental21:48
BUGabundoworks ok21:48
BUGabundobut lost search engines21:48
ftaas they are in our 3.0 package21:57
BUGabundothat's why we pull it on ubuntu21:58
ftaasac, http://identi.ca/notice/684468921:58
BUGabundobut doesn't work on debian21:58
ftajamesh, 1st complaint against -daily builds: http://identi.ca/notice/684468921:59
ftajamesh, oops, sorry, wrong james21:59
asacfta: i dont get what he refers to exactly22:08
asacfta: buildd queue?22:09
ftaasac, i think so22:09
ftaasac, https://edge.launchpad.net/~stemp/+archive/ppa22:09
ftaseems he's also doing a bunch of ppa work: https://edge.launchpad.net/~stemp/+ppa-packages22:12
micahgBUGabundo: search engine bug 38348422:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 383484 in firefox-3.5 "search engine plugins missing in firefox-3.5 packages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38348422:18
BUGabundodon't think that's exatly my bug22:18
BUGabundoNOR is it supported22:18
BUGabundoto isntal PPA packages on debian22:18
micahgwell, it's the bug for the search engines to either be a separate package or be included in everything22:19
BUGabundoasac: (10:30:00 PM) rleeds: I feel like I must not be the first to ask this (I apologize), but I just started getting a custom google search from my shiretoko search bar today. What gives?22:30
BUGabundoI want to smack you too22:31
BUGabundowhy did you change my BLANK page?22:31
BUGabundonow I have a co-search !22:31
pianistbabyfta: hi22:34
pianistbabyi am looking at https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa . are you mozilla staff?22:34
pianistbabyor Ubuntu staff? fta?22:34
pianistbabyi just wanted to know whether any ppa site on launchpad.net is safe22:35
pianistbabyare all safe?22:35
pianistbabydoes launchpad.net verify each ppa sub-site22:35
micahgwhat does verify mean?22:35
pianistbabymicahg: maybe a bad person would try to put malware...22:35
micahgyou shouldn't use a ppa unless you trust the person/group22:36
BUGabundono PPA is verified22:36
ftapianistbaby, no, by default, no ppa should be trusted, anyone could create one22:36
BUGabundoyou have to trust on who runs the PPA22:36
BUGabundosame as the archive22:36
pianistbabyfta: ok, but you are paid staff with ubuntu?22:36
micahganyone can upload their own version of a certain app with malware in it if they wanted to22:36
BUGabundoyou trust archive admins and devs with upload rights22:36
pianistbabyBUGabundo:  micahg, fta: so how can we know whethre someone's ppa on lauchpad is safe? i'm a newbie.22:36
BUGabundopaid? naaa he just loves us too much22:37
micahgyou don't22:37
BUGabundoyou don't pianistbaby22:37
micahgif you want safe, stick with the ubuntu repos22:37
BUGabundoif you really want, you need to check the source22:37
pianistbabyBUGabundo: is fta an archive admin and dev?22:37
BUGabundobut I can't imagine anyone checking Firefox source!!!22:37
pianistbabyBUGabundo: i don't know how to read source.22:37
BUGabundopianistbaby: I'll let fta answer that22:37
pianistbabyi'm no comp-scientist.22:38
BUGabundodon't want to offend him :p22:38
pianistbabydoes mozilla create an official PPA site for thunderbird?22:38
ftapianistbaby, i'm not archive admin, i'm not paid by canonical, but i'm a regular contributor22:38
BUGabundoohh don't worry. we are all *crazy* scientist22:38
micahgpianistbaby: are you looking for somethign specific?22:38
pianistbabywhat's the worst thing that can happen if we get a bad person's ppa?22:38
pianistbabymicahg: yes, thunderbird22:39
micahghave all your personal files sent to everyone in china :)22:39
pianistbabymicahg: really?22:39
pianistbabynot good22:39
micahgjust about anything22:39
pianistbabycan a bad person's ppa also do stuff like keylog ?22:39
pianistbabythis is scary and serious stuff22:39
pianistbabythat's why i want to know to be careful before installing ppa22:40
micahgIt's freedom for developers22:40
micahgbut caveat emptor applies22:40
pianistbabythat's why i'm wondering if mozilla creates easy PPA for thunderbird.22:40
micahgpianistbaby: you looking for thunderbird 3?22:40
pianistbabymicahg: yes, beta 322:40
ftapianistbaby, you're the 1st to ever ask that question here ;)22:40
micahgpianistbaby: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa22:40
micahgthe mozilla team maintains this22:40
pianistbabymicahg: thanks.22:41
micahgit's actually preb422:41
micahgfta's pretty trustworthy too :)22:41
pianistbabymicahg: if the official mozilla team created that, why does fta invest time with his ppa?22:41
BUGabundonow pianistbaby you will have to trust US22:41
pianistbabyis it not reduntant?22:41
micahgask fta :)22:41
ftapianistbaby, it's also me pushing stuff there, so if you don't trust me, no luck ;)22:41
BUGabundopianistbaby: fta is the mozilla team22:41
pianistbabyBUGabundo: when i asked fta, he just said he's with ubuntu. he didn't say he was with mozilla.22:42
ftapianistbaby, my own PPA pre-dates all the -dailies22:42
pianistbabywhat does "pre-date" mean. does that mean that your ppa are "newer"?22:42
micahgpianistbaby: fta does most of the uploading for the daily ppa anyways22:42
ftano, it was created before22:42
ftanow, i moved my attention to dedicated ppas22:43
pianistbabyguys, i already have http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu in my sources list. (this is how i get the latest firefox 3.5 everyday.)22:43
ftathen take tb3 from there too22:44
micahgwell, you can just install thunderbird-3.0 then22:44
pianistbabyso when i go apt-get install thunderbird, will this remove my current version of TB, which is (20090608)?22:44
micahgyou can have both22:44
pianistbabycan i have TB3.0 "take over" my 2.X.x?22:45
pianistbabyby take over i mean, that it knows my email accounts, etc.22:45
micahgit should import your profile on install22:45
pianistbabymicahg: thanks. i'll try now.22:45
micahgor rather copy it22:45
pianistbabyyou folks are so helpful!!!22:45
BUGabundowe do try22:45
pianistbabyI love PPA stuff.22:45
pianistbabyI also have chromium on ppa22:45
BUGabundoand in the mean time we laugh a bit22:45
micahgI started uploading to my own22:45
micahgthat's when it gets cool IMHO22:46
BUGabundopianistbaby: again done by fta22:46
BUGabundoyou trust him too much22:46
BUGabundoyou can't do that22:46
pianistbabyBUGabundo: fta does chromium?22:46
ftayes, i do22:46
BUGabundoI've never even seen a pic of him22:46
pianistbabyfta, i guess i do trust you. 8-)22:46
BUGabundoat least asac as a fake on his launchpad account22:46
pianistbabyfta, are you a computer scientist student?22:46
micahgBUGabundo: fake what?22:47
BUGabundomicahg: :)22:47
BUGabundopianistbaby: no.... fta just fakes he works very hard at the office22:47
BUGabundobut then spends all his time here22:47
pianistbabywith daily builds, the excitement for the next ubuntu version is decreased.22:48
pianistbabydoes anybody share that feeling.22:48
pianistbabyfta: is your work in office IT work?22:48
ftapianistbaby, no22:48
micahgno, dailies aren't meant for everyone22:48
BUGabundonow I realize I have no idea what fta does for a living :)22:48
micahgthere is a certain amount of risk22:48
BUGabundofta: what do you do?22:48
ftaBUGabundo, because i don't talk much about my private life in public, it's private22:49
ftai prefer it that way22:49
BUGabundoI would say  you can tell me in PVT22:49
pianistbabyi just installed TB3.0. and i use gmail. tb3 copied over profile from tb2.x. i read that tb3b3 has new gmail features. does this mean i have to tweak stuff in my gmail accounts in tb3.x?22:49
BUGabundobut then some of it would be slaterd all over the intertubes :)22:50
BUGabundoor not!22:50
micahgHumor break: http://www.arcamax.com/jokes/s-583848-12267322:50
ftaBUGabundo, i'm a regular contributor and i usually know what i'm doing, that's enough to know about me ;)22:52
BUGabundofta not for me22:59
ftaBUGabundo, what do you mean?22:59
BUGabundobut hey, no one can (or will) force you22:59
asacfta: heh .ok. but he seems to be the silent minority still - fortunately22:59
BUGabundofta: I'm just TOOOO curiouse22:59
BUGabundowhy do you think I run the cutting edge22:59
BUGabundoand am on allllll so many SNs?22:59
BUGabundoasac: ??23:00
ftaasac, yep23:00
asacstemp - re: complain about daily ppa23:00
asacmicahg: bug 291817 is wont fix for 3.0, yes. is it forwarded upstream? (launchpad seems down)23:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 291817 in firefox-3.5 "Click on the back button doesn't scroll the previous page to the previous position" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29181723:08
micahgasac: yeah, it was fixed upstream23:09
micahgand fixed in 3.523:09
micahgI was just going to close it in 3.023:09
micahgLP is undergoing maintenance23:09
* asac wonders if xul 1.9.2 dailies are built23:09
micahgthat e-mail from yesterday was about today :)23:09
BUGabundoI got some updates asac23:09
asaclets check update23:10
asacBUGabundo: did they fix your BadWindo issues?23:10
BUGabundolet me restart FF23:10
asacmaybe try to restart a bunch of times23:10
BUGabundonot that restart fixes it23:10
BUGabundoI may need to restart my system t23:10
BUGabundoor that23:10
ftabzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head": OOPS-1299EA67123:10
asacif you updated xulrunner you need to stop it ... and be sure its not running23:10
asacthen start it and kill it a few times23:11
asacat best from a console23:11
BUGabundogreat.... no crash but not verbose or FF :(23:11
BUGabundoasac: I mostly start FF from cli or DO23:11
asacBUGabundo: ensure that no ffox is running using ps and killall ;)23:11
BUGabundo$ firefox-3.6 -g23:12
BUGabundo[New Thread 0x7fffe65f1950 (LWP 390)]23:12
BUGabundo[New Thread 0x7fffe5df0950 (LWP 391)]23:12
BUGabundo(no debugging symbols found)23:12
BUGabundo(no debugging symbols found)23:12
BUGabundo(no debugging symbols found)23:12
BUGabundo(no debugging symbols found)23:12
BUGabundo[Thread 0x7fffe5df0950 (LWP 391) exited]23:12
BUGabundo[Thread 0x7fffe65f1950 (LWP 390) exited]23:12
BUGabundoProgram exited with code 01.23:12
asacBUGabundo: which version does xulrunner-1.9.2 have?23:12
BUGabundoasac: of course I did that23:12
asacseems its not built yet23:12
BUGabundolet me se23:12
asacbut LP is in read only mode so i dont know23:12
asacwaiting for upgrade to finish23:12
BUGabundo  Installed: 1.9.2~a1~hg20090721r30497+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd123:12
asacyeah thats too old23:13
asac 1.9.2~a1~hg20090722r30558+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd223:13
asacthats the one23:13
asactoo bad..seems its not yet finished23:13
asaci only get 1.9.1 update from 22nd Jul23:13
BUGabundo$ firefox-3.6 --safe-mode23:14
BUGabundoGdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-3.6' received an X Window System error.23:14
BUGabundoThis probably reflects a bug in the program.23:14
BUGabundoThe error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.23:14
BUGabundo  (Details: serial 920 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0)23:14
BUGabundo  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;23:14
BUGabundo   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.23:14
BUGabundo   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line23:14
BUGabundo   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful23:14
BUGabundo   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)23:14
BUGabundoTrace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)23:14
ftatoo old?23:14
BUGabundoso no fix :(23:14
BUGabundotoo old?23:14
BUGabundoI just did my daily updates!!!23:14
BUGabundocrazy drunku coder23:15
ftathere was a ftbfs today, i fixed it, but did i respin the build? i don't remember23:15
asacfta: did you fix before or after my commit?23:15
LLStarksjesus christ asac23:15
LLStarksmultisearch is terrible23:15
asacfta: i think you fixed something before23:15
ftaasac, your commit? i didn't see any from you today23:16
asacLLStarks: its not ment to be beautiful ;)23:16
LLStarksgoogle images and google news is gone!23:16
asaclet me check23:16
asacfta: committed bandaid patch for  BadWindow crashes23:16
LLStarkswhy would anyone think that this was a good idea?23:16
BUGabundoLLStarks: but is it?23:17
BUGabundoI've seen ppl talk about it23:17
asacfta: http://identi.ca/notice/681936923:17
LLStarksi hate it23:17
asachmm seems to not reveal the revision ;)23:17
LLStarksand i see it as an infection to my firefox 3.623:17
asacfta: 47823:17
BUGabundoI just want TabMixPlus to finally fix their dumb plugin and make it work again23:18
ftaasac, mine is 47923:18
asacLLStarks: first: file a bug23:18
asacfta: what wsa the build problem23:18
ftachecking for iwlib.h... no23:18
ftaconfigure: error: Can't find header iwlib.h for Necko WiFi scanning (might be in package iwlib-dev (Ubuntu) or wireless-tools-devel (Fedora)); use --disable-necko-wifi to disable23:18
ftamake: *** [build-tree/mozilla/config.status] Error 123:18
asacfta: was the patch i landed involved? (i swear i tested if it applies with the current topmost changelog revision)23:18
asacfta: ah ok23:19
BUGabundoneed to wack a few ppl23:19
asacfta: thanks. did you add libiw-dev?23:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [Undecided,Triaged]23:19
ftaasac, yes23:19
asaci think we need to add that actually to eanble wifi23:19
asacgood catch23:19
LLStarksadd firefox-3.6 ubuntu to that23:19
asacso some luck it started to fail23:19
asacLLStarks: thats your bug?23:19
LLStarksconsensus: multisearch is pure fail.23:19
asacLLStarks: i think i already commented on that?23:19
ftaasac, no, they added that configure check today, but the feature was there since last week23:20
BUGabundoLLStarks: want to co-file one against Notify-OSD beeing over FF search?23:20
asacfta: huh? but before they used wireless extension for this geolocation thing?23:20
ftaasac, yes23:20
ftamozilla 50359723:20
asacfta: i think we forgot to enable it ;) ... which would explain why i just processed a bug yesterday where someone complained that it doesnt work23:20
ubottuMozilla bug 503597 in Build Config "configure.in silently disables necko wifi when header is missing (Linux only)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50359723:21
LLStarksThis new extension essentially cripples the toolbar. I can't search images, news, or use functions like define:word23:21
asac(besides the weaknesses that wireless extension imposes)23:21
LLStarksoh shit, bug. i hate that!23:21
ftaasac, no, it's enabled by default, but the lib is loosely loaded at run time23:21
LLStarksnotifications are pest23:21
asacfta: and what at compile time? so 3.5 shipped their own headers and didnt need the -dev package?23:22
asacLLStarks: is that a different bug? (notifications)?23:22
LLStarksit's annoying tho23:23
BUGabundoasac: fta: any of you on laptop and karmic?23:23
BUGabundoopen GPM and enable and disable DIM23:23
asacLLStarks: what is annoying about notifications? font size?23:23
asacBUGabundo: that hung for me the last time i tried that23:23
asaci disabled dimming because of that23:23
asaclike a few weeks ago23:23
LLStarksasac, it covers the search box23:23
asacnot sure i want to enable it just now23:23
BUGabundoLLStarks: use full nick or I won't get pinged. lets file it then23:23
BUGabundoasac: with DIM it has less brigh EVEN when I'm using it on AC23:24
asacLLStarks: yeah but it goes away if you go with mouse over it ... at least notify-osd does23:24
BUGabundoneed someone to cross check23:24
LLStarksasac, as long as multisearch kills google functions, i will press hard to see it removed.23:24
LLStarksas long as you package it, you are not my ally23:24
asacLLStarks: the bug is not youre above, how about opening a new one23:24
* micahg doesn't understand this mutisearch23:25
micahgis it a new extension23:25
LLStarksi can't file right now, lp is semi-down23:25
micahgor does it come with FF?23:25
asacLLStarks: yeah. good.23:25
micahgLP will be back up in a half hour23:25
BUGabundowill someone explain to me what multisearch actually does?23:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 137598 in gnome-power-manager "Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in" [High,Confirmed]23:28
BUGabundoI wonder if my dim bug is a regression from this one23:28
ftaasac, Jul 18 23:12:36 <fta>   lol, mozilla 47989823:28
ubottuMozilla bug 479898 in Networking "support for WiFi access point scanning" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47989823:28
ftafor geolocalization23:29
micahgwe have bug 398205 that I didn't know what to do with23:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 398205 in firefox-3.5 "Geolocation via WLAN doesn't seem to work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39820523:29
BUGabundo3.5 and above?23:30
asacfta: right but it needs iwlib.h ... would think its in libiw-dev23:30
asacmicahg: did the reporter answer yet on that?23:31
BUGabundoLLStarks: #+1 has more supporters for your multisearc bug23:31
asacBUGabundo: we currently have modified newtab experience to find out how important newtb would be for user-experience; based on the results we will then discuss if or what to do.23:32
BUGabundowhat's newtb?23:32
BUGabundoand is it 3.5 ONLY?23:32
asacif you hit ctrl+t23:32
asacno its in 3.0 and 3.523:32
asacand maybe 3.623:32
BUGabundoI get it on 3.623:32
asacyeah coulud be. is a pretty simple extension that should work everywhere23:33
BUGabundoit has always been blank23:33
asacBUGabundo: you should open a bug against firefox-3.0 then23:33
asacand firefox-3.523:33
asacadd two tasks23:33
BUGabundoBUT you CHANGED my system23:33
BUGabundowithout me asking for it23:33
BUGabundoits a FF setting23:33
asacwe change your system all the time while you ride the devel release23:33
asacits a new thing. so that got added. you can disable it in tools -> addons23:33
BUGabundoso when I asked fta if that javascript option would be re-enable with the fix, he said NO23:34
BUGabundoand now I get changes to stuff like HOMEPAGE?23:34
asacwe dont change preferences23:34
asacbut you didnt have any preference for newtab23:34
BUGabundoI did for HOME PAGE23:34
BUGabundowhich HISTORICLY is  == NEWTAB23:34
asacyes. but home page isnt changed23:34
asacthats not true23:34
asacnewtab is empty23:34
asacby default23:34
asacnot homepage23:35
BUGabundo(11:32:37 PM) billybigrigger: time to start using chromium again i think :)23:35
BUGabundo(11:33:31 PM) DanaG: Wow, that was installed without consent.23:35
BUGabundohey Pici you too?23:35
PiciBUGabundo: Huh?23:36
asacBUGabundo: file a bug and post such things there23:36
asacthats probably best23:36
BUGabundoPici: nvm23:36
BUGabundoasac: LP down23:36
BUGabundoif it was up LLStarks already would23:36
BUGabundoLLStarks: when you do, sub me to IT23:36
BUGabundoI don't like this change a bit either23:36
* BUGabundo BUGabundo turns #U-MT into #u+123:38
BUGabundothe 1st guy to see LP back up, file the bug against 3.023:38
BUGabundoand then asac will have to change it to 3.523:38
BUGabundoonce that becomes default23:38
BUGabundothat we should expect it to be in 2012 :p23:38
* micahg stilll doesn't know what the bug is23:39
BUGabundomicahg: several actually23:39
billybigriggermicahg, tried to use the search bar in FF lately?23:39
BUGabundomicahg: newtab is now a search23:39
BUGabundoand Search engine defaults to costum search23:39
BUGabundoand not GOOGLE23:39
BUGabundowith all it usual options, like calendar, images, etc23:40
micahgworks fine for me...23:40
billybigriggerfirefox-3.0 (3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001) karmic; urgency=low23:40
billybigrigger  * add me001 multisearch feature for karmic alpha323:40
billybigrigger    - add debian/extensions/*23:40
billybigriggerthat is the problem23:40
BUGabundomicahg: upgrade and restart FF23:40
micahgis it karmic only?23:40
micahgthat's why I can't see it;)23:40
asacfor alpha 323:41
micahgis ff shopping around the awesomebar search?23:41
BUGabundoasac: it would have been time better spent , getting new stuff from NM 0.823:41
asacmicahg: yes, we changed searches everywhere to get data on the various search places.23:45
micahgL{P is back23:54
asac__yay ;) ... let the bugs begin23:54
BUGabundoya ya23:54
* BUGabundo opens apport23:54
BUGabundo$ apport-cli -fp firefox-3.023:55
BUGabundoohhh he left23:55
asac__i am here23:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [High,Triaged]23:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 403246 in firefox-3.0 "please restore old NEWTAB" [Undecided,New]23:58

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