[00:00] <asac_> net problems at irc gateway
[00:01] <asac__> now back here ;)
[00:01] <bluekuja> lol
[00:01] <bluekuja> we have multiple asacs now
[00:01]  * BUGabundo wonders where here is
[00:01] <asac__> here == my primary irssi screen ;)
[00:03] <BUGabundo> ahh
[00:21] <fta> reed__, does 3.6 has a codename already?
[00:22] <reed__> yes, Namaroka
[00:22] <reed__> er
[00:22] <reed__> Namoroka
[00:22] <reed__> I can't spell :)
[00:22] <fta> another park?
[00:23] <reed__> they are all parks
[00:23] <reed__> every one of our code names
[00:23] <reed__> are parks
[00:23] <fta> ok, good
[00:23] <reed__> is a park*
[00:24] <BUGabundo> fta: it was already on wikipedia
[00:25] <fta> and https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Namoroka
[00:25] <fta> once you have the name, it's easy to find
[00:27] <BUGabundo> is it me or is notify-osd font size SMALLER?
[00:28] <fta> it is
[00:29] <fta> it's almost unreadable, tiny font on semi-transparent background, it's blurry
[00:29] <fta> BUGabundo, ^^
[00:29] <fta> BUGabundo, but if it's just to read your tests, it's all fine
[00:30]  * BUGabundo slaps fta around with a wet towel
[00:31] <BUGabundo> yeah its smaller, less readable
[00:31] <BUGabundo> and when mouse is over, (at least without nvidia driver so no composite) very blurry
[01:11] <fta> asac, seems a big(?) part of lp is missing, there's a bunch of symlinks to ../sourcecode/xxx (outside of the branch), unless i missed something
[01:11] <fta> BUGabundo, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-popcon-3.png
[01:15] <asac> fta: file a bug. who knows what those symlinks are
[01:15] <reed__> fta: remember, closed source == better, in launchpad's eyes
[01:15] <reed__> :)
[01:16] <fta> asac, i didn't use the script, i just cloned the branch
[01:17] <asac> yeah. maybe they are filled when using the script
[01:17] <asac> or they are left overs from best-practices developmenet deployments ;)
[01:17] <asac> or simply bugs
[01:17] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/223983/
[01:17] <asac> fta: that looks like something that might get build
[01:18] <fta> you build in ../sourcecode/ ?
[01:18] <asac> e.g. loom is definitly free software too
[01:18] <asac> me?
[01:18] <asac> ;)
[01:18] <asac> who knows. maybe they put the in-source generated stuff in lib/..
[01:18] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/223997/
[01:19] <fta> that's from the root of trunk
[01:19] <asac> yeah. try the script
[01:19] <asac> most likely it makes a tree combined from multiple bzr things
[01:19] <fta> no, it will break my system.
[01:19] <asac> hehe
[01:20] <asac> i havent looked so i cant help ... #launchpad-dev exists
[01:20] <fta> i'm not looking for help, i'm just looking
[01:20] <asac> yeah. check what the script does. maybe you can find the pieces
[01:21] <asac> or what it runs to pull the pieces
[01:21] <asac> i would think if it pulls something there would a command/script/rule for that part
[01:22] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/224005/
[01:25] <fta> i see nothing that could add the missing ../sourcecode/
[01:26] <asac> not sure. is that the complete build? maybe subscomponents have their own build stuff etc?
[05:07] <e-jat> !ping asac
[05:08] <micahg> silly bot...
[05:08] <micahg> he's probably still sleeping
[05:08] <e-jat> owh ..
[05:09] <micahg> he's UTC +1 or +2
[05:09] <micahg> I think...
[05:09] <e-jat> micahg: http://imagebin.ca/view/ZLPiOLk9.html
[05:09] <e-jat> is it a bugs or else .. seem like ff 3.0.11 work well
[05:10] <e-jat> its happend at most of submit form at any website
[05:10] <e-jat> shiretoko n minefield :(
[05:11] <e-jat> micahg: any idea about that?
[05:11] <micahg> what happens on google.com?
[05:11] <micahg> same thing?
[05:11] <e-jat> yeah ..
[05:11] <e-jat> long form
[05:11] <e-jat> wait
[05:12] <micahg> bug 383020
[05:12] <micahg> do you have a special font as the system default?
[05:13] <e-jat> http://imagebin.ca/view/1pbpc3q.html
[05:13] <e-jat> owh ok ..
[05:13] <e-jat> theres someone already report the bugs ..
[05:13] <e-jat> special font ?
[05:13] <e-jat> yeah . i do .
[05:14] <e-jat> i use Lucida Grande ..
[05:14] <micahg> yep
[05:14] <micahg> that'll do it
[05:14] <e-jat> is it the course?
[05:14] <micahg> it's weird
[05:14] <e-jat> ic ..
[05:14] <micahg> the ubuntu bug has the upstream listed
[05:14] <e-jat> but .. for 3.0.11 seem ok
[05:14] <e-jat> ok ..
[05:14]  * e-jat just wait the bugs get fixed :)
[05:15] <micahg> if you can add anything to the upstream report, go for it
[05:15] <e-jat> thanks micahg for da info .. at least i know its already get triaged
[05:15]  * e-jat otw ..
[05:16] <micahg> you don't have any special powers in teh mozilla tracker do you?
[05:17] <e-jat> it also happen in 3.6
[05:17] <e-jat> i dont think so ..
[05:17] <micahg> ok
[05:18] <micahg> probably something to do with teh code rewrite from 1.9 to 1.9.1
[05:18] <e-jat> ic
[05:18] <e-jat>  So if others could try setting
[05:18] <e-jat> their fonts to Lucida Grande and see if they can reproduce the issue, perhaps
[05:18] <e-jat> we can fix this permanently.
[05:19]  * e-jat creating account at mozilla
[05:19] <micahg> the workaround is aparently to change the font to Liberation Sans
[05:20] <micahg> you can vote for it :)
[05:21]  * e-jat yeah for sure ill do ..
[05:21] <micahg> you have the upstream bug no?
[05:21] <e-jat> because .. it work well with 3.0.11
[05:21] <e-jat> just now u given me :)
[05:22] <micahg> ok
[05:22] <e-jat> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500550
[05:22] <e-jat> right?
[05:22] <micahg> yep
[05:22] <micahg> it worked fine in 3.0.11 with the same system?
[05:22] <micahg> You can note that in a comment
[05:23] <micahg> oh
[05:23] <micahg> neverming
[05:23] <e-jat> ?
[05:23] <micahg> the OP posted it
[05:23] <micahg> you can still vote for it :)
[05:25] <e-jat> submit it :)
[05:26] <micahg> submit what?
[05:28] <e-jat> comment :)
[05:28] <micahg> nah, no need unless you're adding something
[05:28] <e-jat> owh .. so i submit the imagebin link can ?
[05:29] <micahg> no need, unless it shows something the current atttachment doesn't
[05:29] <e-jat> to make sure it not happend to google.com page only
[05:29] <e-jat> or it not neccessary ?
[05:29] <micahg> that was still google wasn't it?
[05:32] <e-jat> owh my mistake.. can i remove it ?
[05:32] <e-jat> or will ya ..
[05:34] <e-jat> :(
[05:34]  * e-jat my bad..
[05:36] <micahg> It's ok
[05:36] <micahg> you can leave it there
[05:43] <e-jat> hope it will be decide in short time :)
[08:57] <asac> hi
[09:04] <Paddy_NI> Hey asac
[09:05] <asac> hi Paddy_NI
[09:05]  * asac yawns still
[09:06] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[09:06] <Paddy_NI> Yeah its one of those mornings
[09:07] <Paddy_NI> I am getting ridiculous lag at the moment... mobile broadband
[09:07] <asac> yeah. thats mobile broadband
[09:07] <Paddy_NI> Makes helping out on #ubuntu a real pain
[09:09] <asac> i can guess that
[09:11] <asac> Note that although we announced previously that we'd be holding back two
[09:11] <asac> components (codehosting and soyuz), we changed our minds :-).  They are
[09:11] <asac> opened too -- all the code is open.  See here for details:
[09:12] <asac> fta: ^
[09:12] <asac> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-is-now-open-source
[09:12] <asac> hmm. didnt i post that yesterday too?
[09:12] <Paddy_NI> heh cool :D
[09:12] <Paddy_NI> Not that I had seen anyway
[09:13] <Paddy_NI> cheers that's excellent news
[09:20] <asac> indeed
[09:21] <asac> it was that we wondered yesterday whether there were still parts closed, which seems to be not the casde
[09:44]  * asac fights with bzr automagic tagging in debcommit
[10:50] <asac> fta: its really crazy ... are really all orig.tar.gz in our dailies kept till eow?
[10:50] <asac> seems the .debs really get removed
[10:50] <asac> but
[10:50] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+files/xulrunner-1.9.2_1.9.2~a1~hg20090204r24644+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz
[10:50] <asac> is the first 1.9.1 i can find ;)
[10:51] <asac> sounds like it might match when we started 1.9.2 dailies
[10:51] <asac> but ok. its just 600*30 origs for xul 1.9.2
[10:51] <asac> e.g. 18 GB
[10:51] <asac> but for chromium its probably more annoying
[11:11] <fta> asac, ~40GB
[11:20] <asac> ok i think the BadWindow thing should be fixed in trunk dailies
[11:43] <EruditeHermit> hey guys is there a PPA with just firefox 3.5.1 release?
[11:44] <asac> EruditeHermit: for what?
[11:44] <EruditeHermit> asac: to use?
[11:45] <asac> EruditeHermit: jaunty -> jaunty-security
[11:45] <EruditeHermit> oh its in jaunty?
[11:45] <asac> yes
[11:45] <EruditeHermit> how come I don't have it
[11:45] <asac> and its up-to-date in -security
[11:45] <asac> EruditeHermit: its a separate package so you can install it side-by-side
[11:45] <asac> and even run it side by side
[11:46] <asac> its ment to be a "preview" ... and a service we provide for firefox friends
[11:46] <asac> install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[11:47] <EruditeHermit> hmm
[11:47] <EruditeHermit> what about to replace firefox on the system
[11:47] <asac> no such package available atm
[11:47] <asac> you can remove firefox-3.0 ;)
[11:47] <asac> but that will break the searchplugins (bug!)
[11:47] <EruditeHermit> well I'll keep it
[11:48] <EruditeHermit> does it show up as shiretoko?
[11:48] <asac> yes
[11:48] <EruditeHermit> =(
[11:48] <asac> we only brand the default browser officially
[11:48] <asac> well. i guess you can live with it
[11:48] <asac> !shiretoko
[11:49] <asac> !ffox35
[11:49] <asac> !ff35
[11:49] <EruditeHermit> yeah yeah
[11:49] <EruditeHermit> well
[11:49] <EruditeHermit> bring on karmic
[11:49] <EruditeHermit> !
[11:49] <asac> EruditeHermit: will happen soon on karmic
[11:50] <asac> alpha3 is out on thu ... then we start transitioning and hopefully for a4 we have 3.5 as our default
[11:50] <gnomefreak> gdm is still broken (again)
[11:50] <asac> !ff35 | gnomefreak
[11:50] <asac> can you please update that so it also suggests to install firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[11:50] <asac> ?
[11:50] <asac> i think i can do that too, but dont remember the syntax
[11:51] <gnomefreak> i have it installed
[11:51] <gnomefreak> and set to default
[11:51] <asac> gnomefreak: i mean: can you please update the bot text ;)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:51] <asac> e.g. ... by installing the package firefox-3.5  => ... by installing the package firefox-3.5 (and firefox-3.5-gnome-support)
[11:52] <EruditeHermit> ubufox is not campatible
[11:52] <EruditeHermit> compatible
[11:52] <gnomefreak> good no thinking needed
[11:52] <asac> EruditeHermit: in jaunty? yes. in karmic, its compatible
[11:53] <asac> i think we might want to consider a SRU for that
[11:54] <gnomefreak> !no firefox-3.5 is <reply> Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY
[11:54] <gnomefreak> ubottu: thanks
[11:54] <gnomefreak> ubottu: i know
[11:55] <gnomefreak> why would you
[11:55] <gnomefreak> !firefox-3.5
[11:55] <gnomefreak> asac: work for you?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> !firefox-3.5 karmic
[11:55] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. thanks
[11:55] <asac> !ffox35
[11:56] <asac> !ff35
[11:56] <asac> gnomefreak: its not updated :(
[11:56] <asac> see ^
[11:56] <gnomefreak> yeah thinking of how to alais it
[11:56] <gnomefreak> i cant remember the command
[11:57] <asac> !no ff35 is <reply> Firefox 3.5 Final is available for Jaunty by installing the package firefox-3.5 and firefox-3.5-gnome-support | FF3.5 is referred to as Shiretoko on your UI, see http://is.gd/1reB3 for an explanation | Hardy & Intrepid: http://is.gd/1jkNY
[11:57] <gnomefreak> asac: alis is better but i have to spell it right
[11:57] <asac> seems i got thrown out of the editors group ;)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> asac: you may have to log in first anyway
[11:58] <asac> gnomefreak: log in where? to freenode or to bot?
[11:58] <asac> i am logged in
[11:58] <asac> i dont mind ;)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> asac: try typing @whoami
[11:59] <asac> @whoami
[11:59] <gnomefreak> !ff35
[11:59] <asac> !whoami
[11:59] <asac> @whoami
[11:59] <asac> doesnt work for me ;)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> im seeing that
[11:59] <gnomefreak> @whoami
[11:59] <asac> so i am not known ;)
[11:59] <asac> ubottu: whoami
[11:59] <asac> @whoami
[12:00] <asac> ubottu: @whoami
[12:00] <asac> stupid bot ;)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> asac: try @login
[12:03] <gnomefreak> there is a way to set it to log in automagicly but dont remember :(
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !bot
[12:05] <asac> @login
[12:05] <asac> @whoami
[12:05] <asac> @help login
[12:05] <asac> ubottu: help
[12:06] <asac> ubottu: !login
[12:06] <asac> nothing
[12:06] <asac> bad bot
[12:09] <bluekuja> asac, you need to wait nickserv to update
[12:09] <bluekuja> asac, if you just logged in, it takes a while to refresh the cache
[12:09] <bluekuja> @whoami
[12:09] <asac> i think i logged in like 12 hours ago :-P
[12:09] <bluekuja> lol
[12:09] <bluekuja> it doesnt work for me too
[12:10] <bluekuja> maybe it's lagging badly
[12:10] <bluekuja> ubottu: whoami
[12:11] <bluekuja> nothing
[12:12] <gnomefreak> lol asac did you get a pm from bot?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: you have to use @
[12:12] <bluekuja> @whoami
[12:12] <bluekuja> nothing
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ok be back i need to be briefed on what is going on in #...-ops
[12:12] <bluekuja> ok
[12:17] <gnomefreak> bluekuja: you werent added to edit bot so the @ commands wont work (ther eis one command that will work but thats because ! gives you something else)
[12:17] <bluekuja> gnomefreak, oh ok
[12:17] <bluekuja> ^^
[12:17] <bluekuja> @whoami
[12:17] <bluekuja> works now?
[12:17] <bluekuja> !help
[12:18] <gnomefreak> look for a pm from bot he should explain it
[12:19] <bluekuja> no pms
[12:19] <bluekuja> : /
[12:20] <gnomefreak> now that ther eis an irc council getting anyone bot privledges is a pain in the ass and i would hav eto look it up again. i havent done any of my op things in long time
[12:20] <bluekuja> it lagged out
[12:20] <bluekuja> lol
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yep
[12:23] <gnomefreak> asac: thunderbird is fixed just have to push changes and sunbird is fixed :) im not real sure what is next but im going slow today for a while until coffee kinks in. any ubufox i will look at if you have any
[12:37] <gnomefreak> asac: ok tbird2 branc is pushed not populated but pushed
[12:38] <gnomefreak> :) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/thunderbird/thunderbird2.dev anything i need to change let me know kind of early while im not pulling my hair out yet
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ok so i forgot the word "version"
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: you should really use topic branch names ;)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> in both entries
[12:40] <asac> bug 401165
[12:40] <gnomefreak> asac: what do you mean thunderbird2/thunderbird.dev isnt right?
[12:40] <asac> gnomefreak: well. your branch name should have been more like: thunderbird.lp401165
[12:40] <asac> etc.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: that would be alot of changing if i fix other bugs in it
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: in that way you do not need to delete it after it was merged
[12:41] <asac> so you keep it for your children
[12:41] <asac> just mark it merged ... next time create a new branch with a good topicname
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: you should just submit one branch per bug
[12:41] <asac> thats a good guidline
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: good point
[12:42] <asac> gnomefreak: or give it a nother topic like month: thunderbird.gnomefreaks.jul.fixes1
[12:42] <asac> gnomefreak: or give it a nother topic like month: thunderbird.gnomefreaks.jul09.fixes1
[12:42] <asac> ;)
[12:42] <asac> be innovative. but bug numbers usually work well
[12:42] <asac> gnomefreak: you can rename your branch in launchpad
[12:43] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe do that so i can merge it and then you can mark it merged ;)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> :) i can change it
[12:43] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. use thunderbird.lp401165
[12:43] <gnomefreak> asac: did you merge ff brnach so i can marked that lerged
[12:43] <asac> and request a merge if you want to do it right ;)
[12:43] <asac> gnomefreak: the merge request will be automatically flagged as merge ... so i think you should see an email and then you can mark the branch merged too
[12:43] <asac> i didnt do that yet
[12:43] <asac> my bad
[12:44] <asac> i approved it though
[12:44] <asac> so you could probably already mark it as merged
[12:44]  * gnomefreak looks for target branch for tbird
[12:45] <gnomefreak> found it
[12:46] <gnomefreak> asac: ok tbird is ready for review when you get time
[12:47] <gnomefreak> updates > email > something else
[12:47] <gnomefreak> something else can be replaced with anything that is needed
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: my sunbird branch is using normal name since it is my main branch (hope you can deal with versioning since i pushed ubuntu6 to PPA by mistake (before i got to fix branch
[13:03] <gnomefreak> bug 386797
[13:25] <gnomefreak> does anyone not see the video on http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2784428569/
[13:27] <asac> nope
[13:28] <gnomefreak> i see it fine too seems wolfger doesnt
[13:29] <gnomefreak> asac: look at bug 263442 for more info if you want it
[13:32] <gnomefreak> !info gnash-plugin-mozilla
[13:32] <gnomefreak> ok what is the name of that app
[13:32] <gnomefreak> ah found it
[13:33] <gnomefreak> damn bot
[13:43] <gnomefreak> asac: what is the package name for epiphany-browser-webkit (not gecko)
[13:59] <asac> gnomefreak: epiphany-webkit
[13:59] <asac> !info mozilla-plugin-gnash
[14:00] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks but it wasnt in hardy as i recall
[14:00] <asac> it is
[14:00] <asac> not that version of course, but the package should be there
[14:01] <gnomefreak> oh cool
[14:01] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[14:01] <gnomefreak> cant remember bug # now
[14:01] <asac> there shouldnt be soo many gnash bugs ... at lesat compared to ffox
[14:02]  * gnomefreak getting pissed off at people not listening to help themselves
[14:02] <gnomefreak> asac: most i would say are swfdec-*
[14:02] <asac> yes swfdec is too slow
[14:04] <gnomefreak> its crap and not needed IMHO
[14:04] <gnomefreak> but thats me
[14:04]  * gnomefreak needs smoke before i get ban happy
[14:08] <asac> ban-happy ... sounds like fun
[14:17] <gnomefreak> :) it can be
[14:18] <gnomefreak> asac: what did you do to ubufox? see bug 402804
[14:18] <gnomefreak> i have been checking email way too long becuase of the BS in -ops
[14:19] <gnomefreak> seems you set the search as home page (in links yes but not home page afaik
[14:19] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-3.5 karmic
[14:19] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[14:23] <asac> gnomefreak: its not ubufox i think. i commented on the bug
[14:23] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks
[15:19]  * gnomefreak thinking of taking the rest of day off. its a bit earlier than i thought i would 
[18:01] <denisesballs> hey asac, saw you on this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/269188 , was curious if this fix is still needed in 8.04.3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu
[18:24] <asac> denisesballs: i would think its needed, yes
[18:25] <denisesballs> ok, cool. i did install it just to be safe but wanted to check
[19:51] <fta> reed__, failed! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503597#c6
[20:00] <micahg> asac, is bug 401859 a dupe of bug 107247?
[20:01] <reed__> fta: I'll look in a bit
[20:01] <reed__> fta: a
[20:01] <reed__> ah
[20:01] <reed__> dbaron got it
[20:15] <james_w> hey
[20:15] <james_w> any reports of firefox screwing up its keep-alive handling?
[20:34] <asac> james_w: regression?
[20:34] <james_w> I'm not entirely sure
[20:34] <asac> micahg: from summary it seems so
[20:34] <asac> james_w: there are a bunch of keep-alive reports open in bugzilla
[20:34] <james_w> I'll try downloading in a minute
[20:35] <micahg> asac: is it ok that the other bug is titled for LP only, I know the upstream wasn't
[20:35] <asac> james_w: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=keep-alive&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=
[20:35] <james_w> I hit a page, it sends a keep-alive request, receives the response, I hit reload, and most of the time it will spin until the server closes the connection, and only then send the GET according to wireshark
[20:36] <james_w> epiphany has no such problem
[20:36] <asac> micahg: asked for other websites
[20:36] <asac> micahg: having more examples might help getting a minimal testcase
[20:37] <asac> i am not even sure mozilla folks will see the current caret problem as it just appeared on edge
[20:37] <micahg> I also see it on amd64
[20:37] <micahg> I noticed you marked upstream as x86
[20:37] <asac> james_w: do you monitor this on server side or on client?
[20:37] <james_w> I'm both in this case
[20:37] <james_w> I was hitting a local webserver
[20:38] <james_w> asac: open https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161464
[20:38] <james_w> wait a minute
[20:38] <james_w> hit reload, takes ~1.5s for me
[20:38] <james_w> count to 3
[20:38] <asac> i have to run ... will be back in 5 minutes
[20:38] <james_w> hit reload, takes ~20s
[20:38] <james_w> sure
[20:39] <james_w> wait another minute, hit reload, takes ~1.5s again
[20:45] <asac> james_w: ffox 3.5?
[20:45] <james_w> 3.0
[20:45] <james_w> just about to try 3.5
[20:45] <asac> james_w: i dont see it here in 3.5
[20:47] <asac> james_w: works well here. extensions?
[20:47] <james_w> 3.5 checks out ok
[20:47] <james_w> I'll test
[20:47] <james_w> what's the command to get a blank profile?
[20:47] <asac> if you find the extension that causes this let me know
[20:47] <asac> james_w: run firefox -P
[20:47] <asac> to open the profile manager
[20:48] <asac> and create a new one
[20:48] <asac> james_w: or run with -safe-mode
[20:48] <asac> but some extensions still interfere badly
[20:48] <micahg> I see 3.0.12 was released
[20:48] <james_w> this was a profile that I started fresh a month or so ago
[20:49] <micahg> Can  I start asking people to test with the new version?
[20:49] <asac> micahg: you mean fix committed bugs?
[20:49] <micahg> no
[20:50] <micahg> crashes we haven;t pinned down yet
[20:50] <micahg> Did we have any fix committed for FF3.0?
[20:51] <asac> micahg: i dont think we had any crash fix committed no.
[20:51] <micahg> ok
[20:51] <james_w> yeah, seems to be a plugin
[20:51] <asac> but i think asking for crashes where there is no way to reproduce doesnt make much sense
[20:52] <asac> james_w: if you have a list i could do a bet :)
[20:52] <james_w> "Tamper Data"
[20:53] <james_w> as soon as you suggested plugin I though it might be that one :-)
[20:53] <james_w> if you have the window open but inactive then it screws up keep-alive
[20:53] <asac> wow. what is tamper data ;)
[20:53] <asac> new to me
[20:53] <asac> sounds scary ;)
[20:53] <james_w> allows you to edit headers on the fly
[20:53] <asac> heh ok
[20:53] <asac> yeah
[20:53] <asac> probably there is header bustage then
[20:54] <james_w> it shouldn't get involved if it's inactive
[20:54] <james_w> but I can live with closing the window when I'm not using it
[20:54] <james_w> thanks
[20:54] <asac> yeah
[20:54] <asac> james_w: do you have an extension to monitor whats going on? liveheaders works good for me
[20:54] <james_w> yeah, I use liveheaders as well
[20:54] <micahg> asac: I think I figured out part of the flash problem
[20:54] <asac> ah ok. so you probably have setup rules that bust the thing
[20:54] <asac> ok
[20:54] <asac> lets not bother then
[20:55] <micahg> if a user installs a flash plugin intheir profile and then installs the system extension, flash won't work
[20:55] <james_w> but I needed to send some weird headers for testing
[20:55] <james_w> thanks for your time
[20:55] <asac> micahg: the multiple-flash-cause-confusion problem?
[20:55] <micahg> yeah, that's one version of it
[20:55] <asac> james_w: np
[20:55] <micahg> I'm still trying to figure out the conflict between different flashes thingy
[20:56] <asac> micahg: why wont flash work in that case?
[20:56] <micahg> I don't know
[20:56] <asac> you mean if he installs two time the same flash version?
[20:56] <micahg> I think it might be trying to use both
[20:56] <asac> or if he has different versions?
[20:56] <asac> micahg: that might be a bug
[20:56] <micahg> no, version 9 is installed in teh profile, version 10 as a .deb
[20:56] <micahg> yeah
[20:56] <micahg> I think so
[20:56] <micahg> I have to check upstream
[20:56] <asac> micahg: does it feel like it tries to use different engines alternating?
[20:56] <micahg> possibly
[20:56] <asac> e.g. one flash film use this, the other that and so on
[20:56] <micahg> it's a theory at the moemnt
[20:56] <micahg> I haven't tested
[20:57] <asac> micahg: do you see anything on the console?
[20:57] <micahg> but from most of the cases I've seen over the past few months it makes sense
[20:57] <micahg> I'll have to test it over the weekend
[20:57] <asac> micahg: please check if it works with upstream build
[20:58] <micahg> as in I should download the tarball and try it?
[20:58] <asac> like linking our sys plugin to the upstream build plugins/ dir
[20:58] <asac> right. unpack upstream build. there is a plugins dir i guess. link the plugin that we have system wide in it with  ln -s
[20:58] <micahg> ok
[20:58] <asac> and then start with same profile that has the profile flash
[20:58] <micahg> I'll have to try that over the wekend
[20:59] <asac> great
[21:01] <e-jat> asac: the adobe reader issue still under triage right?
[21:15] <micahg> asac: bug 291817 is won't fix for ff3, right?
[21:39] <BUGabundo> hey hey
[21:48] <BUGabundo> guys installed daily ppa ff 3.6 (for jaunty) in debian experimental
[21:48] <BUGabundo> works ok
[21:48] <BUGabundo> but lost search engines
[21:48] <BUGabundo> :\\
[21:57] <fta> obviously
[21:57] <fta> as they are in our 3.0 package
[21:57] <BUGabundo> ahhhh
[21:57] <BUGabundo> right
[21:58] <BUGabundo> that's why we pull it on ubuntu
[21:58] <fta> asac, http://identi.ca/notice/6844689
[21:58] <BUGabundo> but doesn't work on debian
[21:58] <BUGabundo> LOOLOLOL
[21:59] <fta> jamesh, 1st complaint against -daily builds: http://identi.ca/notice/6844689
[21:59] <fta> jamesh, oops, sorry, wrong james
[21:59] <BUGabundo> ahhahah
[22:08] <asac> fta: i dont get what he refers to exactly
[22:09] <asac> fta: buildd queue?
[22:09] <fta> asac, i think so
[22:09] <fta> asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/~stemp/+archive/ppa
[22:12] <fta> seems he's also doing a bunch of ppa work: https://edge.launchpad.net/~stemp/+ppa-packages
[22:17] <micahg> BUGabundo: search engine bug 383484
[22:18] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:18] <BUGabundo> don't think that's exatly my bug
[22:18] <BUGabundo> NOR is it supported
[22:18] <BUGabundo> to isntal PPA packages on debian
[22:18] <BUGabundo> :)
[22:19] <micahg> well, it's the bug for the search engines to either be a separate package or be included in everything
[22:30] <BUGabundo> asac: (10:30:00 PM) rleeds: I feel like I must not be the first to ask this (I apologize), but I just started getting a custom google search from my shiretoko search bar today. What gives?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> I want to smack you too
[22:31] <BUGabundo> why did you change my BLANK page?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> now I have a co-search !
[22:31] <BUGabundo> :p
[22:34] <pianistbaby> fta: hi
[22:34] <pianistbaby> i am looking at https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa . are you mozilla staff?
[22:34] <pianistbaby> or Ubuntu staff? fta?
[22:35] <fta> ubuntu
[22:35] <pianistbaby> ok.
[22:35] <pianistbaby> i just wanted to know whether any ppa site on launchpad.net is safe
[22:35] <pianistbaby> are all safe?
[22:35] <micahg> safe?
[22:35] <pianistbaby> does launchpad.net verify each ppa sub-site
[22:35] <micahg> what does verify mean?
[22:35] <pianistbaby> micahg: maybe a bad person would try to put malware...
[22:36] <micahg> you shouldn't use a ppa unless you trust the person/group
[22:36] <BUGabundo> no
[22:36] <BUGabundo> no PPA is verified
[22:36] <fta> pianistbaby, no, by default, no ppa should be trusted, anyone could create one
[22:36] <BUGabundo> you have to trust on who runs the PPA
[22:36] <BUGabundo> same as the archive
[22:36] <pianistbaby> fta: ok, but you are paid staff with ubuntu?
[22:36] <micahg> anyone can upload their own version of a certain app with malware in it if they wanted to
[22:36] <BUGabundo> you trust archive admins and devs with upload rights
[22:36] <pianistbaby> BUGabundo:  micahg, fta: so how can we know whethre someone's ppa on lauchpad is safe? i'm a newbie.
[22:37] <BUGabundo> paid? naaa he just loves us too much
[22:37] <micahg> you don't
[22:37] <BUGabundo> you don't pianistbaby
[22:37] <micahg> if you want safe, stick with the ubuntu repos
[22:37] <BUGabundo> if you really want, you need to check the source
[22:37] <pianistbaby> BUGabundo: is fta an archive admin and dev?
[22:37] <BUGabundo> but I can't imagine anyone checking Firefox source!!!
[22:37] <pianistbaby> BUGabundo: i don't know how to read source.
[22:37] <BUGabundo> pianistbaby: I'll let fta answer that
[22:38] <pianistbaby> i'm no comp-scientist.
[22:38] <BUGabundo> don't want to offend him :p
[22:38] <pianistbaby> does mozilla create an official PPA site for thunderbird?
[22:38] <fta> pianistbaby, i'm not archive admin, i'm not paid by canonical, but i'm a regular contributor
[22:38] <BUGabundo> ohh don't worry. we are all *crazy* scientist
[22:38] <micahg> pianistbaby: are you looking for somethign specific?
[22:38] <pianistbaby> what's the worst thing that can happen if we get a bad person's ppa?
[22:39] <pianistbaby> micahg: yes, thunderbird
[22:39] <micahg> have all your personal files sent to everyone in china :)
[22:39] <pianistbaby> micahg: really?
[22:39] <pianistbaby> wow.
[22:39] <pianistbaby> not good
[22:39] <micahg> just about anything
[22:39] <pianistbaby> can a bad person's ppa also do stuff like keylog ?
[22:39] <micahg> yep
[22:39] <pianistbaby> this is scary and serious stuff
[22:39] <micahg> right
[22:40] <pianistbaby> that's why i want to know to be careful before installing ppa
[22:40] <micahg> It's freedom for developers
[22:40] <micahg> but caveat emptor applies
[22:40] <pianistbaby> that's why i'm wondering if mozilla creates easy PPA for thunderbird.
[22:40] <micahg> pianistbaby: you looking for thunderbird 3?
[22:40] <pianistbaby> micahg: yes, beta 3
[22:40] <fta> pianistbaby, you're the 1st to ever ask that question here ;)
[22:40] <micahg> pianistbaby: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[22:40] <micahg> the mozilla team maintains this
[22:41] <pianistbaby> micahg: thanks.
[22:41] <micahg> it's actually preb4
[22:41] <micahg> fta's pretty trustworthy too :)
[22:41] <pianistbaby> micahg: if the official mozilla team created that, why does fta invest time with his ppa?
[22:41] <BUGabundo> now pianistbaby you will have to trust US
[22:41] <pianistbaby> is it not reduntant?
[22:41] <micahg> ask fta :)
[22:41] <BUGabundo> err
[22:41] <fta> pianistbaby, it's also me pushing stuff there, so if you don't trust me, no luck ;)
[22:41] <BUGabundo> pianistbaby: fta is the mozilla team
[22:41] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:42] <pianistbaby> BUGabundo: when i asked fta, he just said he's with ubuntu. he didn't say he was with mozilla.
[22:42] <fta> pianistbaby, my own PPA pre-dates all the -dailies
[22:42] <pianistbaby> what does "pre-date" mean. does that mean that your ppa are "newer"?
[22:42] <micahg> pianistbaby: fta does most of the uploading for the daily ppa anyways
[22:42] <fta> no, it was created before
[22:43] <fta> now, i moved my attention to dedicated ppas
[22:43] <pianistbaby> guys, i already have http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu in my sources list. (this is how i get the latest firefox 3.5 everyday.)
[22:44] <fta> then take tb3 from there too
[22:44] <micahg> well, you can just install thunderbird-3.0 then
[22:44] <pianistbaby> so when i go apt-get install thunderbird, will this remove my current version of TB, which is 2.0.0.22 (20090608)?
[22:44] <micahg> no
[22:44] <micahg> you can have both
[22:45] <pianistbaby> can i have TB3.0 "take over" my 2.X.x?
[22:45] <pianistbaby> by take over i mean, that it knows my email accounts, etc.
[22:45] <micahg> it should import your profile on install
[22:45] <pianistbaby> micahg: thanks. i'll try now.
[22:45] <micahg> or rather copy it
[22:45] <pianistbaby> you folks are so helpful!!!
[22:45] <BUGabundo> we do try
[22:45] <pianistbaby> I love PPA stuff.
[22:45] <pianistbaby> I also have chromium on ppa
[22:45] <BUGabundo> and in the mean time we laugh a bit
[22:45] <micahg> I started uploading to my own
[22:46] <micahg> that's when it gets cool IMHO
[22:46] <BUGabundo> pianistbaby: again done by fta
[22:46] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[22:46] <BUGabundo> you trust him too much
[22:46] <BUGabundo> you can't do that
[22:46] <fta> lol
[22:46] <pianistbaby> BUGabundo: fta does chromium?
[22:46] <pianistbaby> wow
[22:46] <fta> yes, i do
[22:46] <BUGabundo> I've never even seen a pic of him
[22:46] <pianistbaby> fta, i guess i do trust you. 8-)
[22:46] <BUGabundo> at least asac as a fake on his launchpad account
[22:46] <pianistbaby> fta, are you a computer scientist student?
[22:47] <micahg> BUGabundo: fake what?
[22:47] <BUGabundo> micahg: :)
[22:47] <BUGabundo> pianistbaby: no.... fta just fakes he works very hard at the office
[22:47] <BUGabundo> but then spends all his time here
[22:48] <pianistbaby> with daily builds, the excitement for the next ubuntu version is decreased.
[22:48] <pianistbaby> does anybody share that feeling.
[22:48] <pianistbaby> fta: is your work in office IT work?
[22:48] <fta> pianistbaby, no
[22:48] <micahg> no, dailies aren't meant for everyone
[22:48] <BUGabundo> now I realize I have no idea what fta does for a living :)
[22:48] <micahg> there is a certain amount of risk
[22:48] <BUGabundo> fta: what do you do?
[22:49] <fta> BUGabundo, because i don't talk much about my private life in public, it's private
[22:49] <fta> i prefer it that way
[22:49] <BUGabundo> :)
[22:49] <BUGabundo> I would say  you can tell me in PVT
[22:49] <pianistbaby> i just installed TB3.0. and i use gmail. tb3 copied over profile from tb2.x. i read that tb3b3 has new gmail features. does this mean i have to tweak stuff in my gmail accounts in tb3.x?
[22:50] <BUGabundo> but then some of it would be slaterd all over the intertubes :)
[22:50] <BUGabundo> or not!
[22:50] <micahg> Humor break: http://www.arcamax.com/jokes/s-583848-122673
[22:52] <fta> BUGabundo, i'm a regular contributor and i usually know what i'm doing, that's enough to know about me ;)
[22:59] <BUGabundo> fta not for me
[22:59] <fta> BUGabundo, what do you mean?
[22:59] <BUGabundo> but hey, no one can (or will) force you
[22:59] <asac> fta: heh .ok. but he seems to be the silent minority still - fortunately
[22:59] <BUGabundo> fta: I'm just TOOOO curiouse
[22:59] <BUGabundo> why do you think I run the cutting edge
[22:59] <BUGabundo> ?
[22:59] <BUGabundo> and am on allllll so many SNs?
[23:00] <BUGabundo> asac: ??
[23:00] <fta> asac, yep
[23:00] <asac> stemp - re: complain about daily ppa
[23:00] <BUGabundo> ah
[23:08] <asac> micahg: bug 291817 is wont fix for 3.0, yes. is it forwarded upstream? (launchpad seems down)
[23:09] <micahg> asac: yeah, it was fixed upstream
[23:09] <micahg> and fixed in 3.5
[23:09] <micahg> I was just going to close it in 3.0
[23:09] <micahg> LP is undergoing maintenance
[23:09]  * asac wonders if xul 1.9.2 dailies are built
[23:09] <micahg> that e-mail from yesterday was about today :)
[23:09] <BUGabundo> I got some updates asac
[23:10] <asac> lets check update
[23:10] <asac> BUGabundo: did they fix your BadWindo issues?
[23:10] <BUGabundo> let me restart FF
[23:10] <asac> maybe try to restart a bunch of times
[23:10] <BUGabundo> not that restart fixes it
[23:10] <BUGabundo> I may need to restart my system t
[23:10] <BUGabundo> or that
[23:10] <fta> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head": OOPS-1299EA671
[23:10] <asac> if you updated xulrunner you need to stop it ... and be sure its not running
[23:11] <asac> then start it and kill it a few times
[23:11] <asac> at best from a console
[23:11] <BUGabundo> great.... no crash but not verbose or FF :(
[23:11] <BUGabundo> asac: I mostly start FF from cli or DO
[23:11] <asac> BUGabundo: ensure that no ffox is running using ps and killall ;)
[23:12] <BUGabundo> $ firefox-3.6 -g
[23:12] <BUGabundo> [New Thread 0x7fffe65f1950 (LWP 390)]
[23:12] <BUGabundo> [New Thread 0x7fffe5df0950 (LWP 391)]
[23:12] <BUGabundo> (no debugging symbols found)
[23:12] <BUGabundo> (no debugging symbols found)
[23:12] <BUGabundo> (no debugging symbols found)
[23:12] <BUGabundo> (no debugging symbols found)
[23:12] <BUGabundo> [Thread 0x7fffe5df0950 (LWP 391) exited]
[23:12] <BUGabundo> [Thread 0x7fffe65f1950 (LWP 390) exited]
[23:12] <BUGabundo> Program exited with code 01.
[23:12] <asac> BUGabundo: which version does xulrunner-1.9.2 have?
[23:12] <BUGabundo> asac: of course I did that
[23:12] <BUGabundo> :))
[23:12] <asac> seems its not built yet
[23:12] <BUGabundo> let me se
[23:12] <asac> but LP is in read only mode so i dont know
[23:12] <asac> waiting for upgrade to finish
[23:12] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 1.9.2~a1~hg20090721r30497+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[23:13] <asac> yeah thats too old
[23:13] <asac>  1.9.2~a1~hg20090722r30558+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2
[23:13] <asac> thats the one
[23:13] <asac> too bad..seems its not yet finished
[23:13] <asac> i only get 1.9.1 update from 22nd Jul
[23:14] <BUGabundo> $ firefox-3.6 --safe-mode
[23:14] <BUGabundo> Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-3.6' received an X Window System error.
[23:14] <BUGabundo> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[23:14] <BUGabundo> The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
[23:14] <BUGabundo>   (Details: serial 920 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
[23:14] <BUGabundo>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[23:14] <BUGabundo>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[23:14] <BUGabundo>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[23:14] <BUGabundo>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[23:14] <BUGabundo>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[23:14] <BUGabundo> aborting...
[23:14] <BUGabundo> Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)
[23:14] <fta> too old?
[23:14] <BUGabundo> so no fix :(
[23:14] <BUGabundo> too old?
[23:14] <BUGabundo> I just did my daily updates!!!
[23:15] <BUGabundo> crazy drunku coder
[23:15] <fta> there was a ftbfs today, i fixed it, but did i respin the build? i don't remember
[23:15] <asac> fta: did you fix before or after my commit?
[23:15] <LLStarks> jesus christ asac
[23:15] <LLStarks> multisearch is terrible
[23:15] <asac> fta: i think you fixed something before
[23:16] <fta> asac, your commit? i didn't see any from you today
[23:16] <asac> LLStarks: its not ment to be beautiful ;)
[23:16] <LLStarks> google images and google news is gone!
[23:16] <asac> let me check
[23:16] <asac> fta: committed bandaid patch for  BadWindow crashes
[23:16] <LLStarks> why would anyone think that this was a good idea?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> LLStarks: but is it?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> I've seen ppl talk about it
[23:17] <asac> fta: http://identi.ca/notice/6819369
[23:17] <LLStarks> i hate it
[23:17] <asac> hmm seems to not reveal the revision ;)
[23:17] <LLStarks> and i see it as an infection to my firefox 3.6
[23:17] <asac> fta: 478
[23:18] <BUGabundo> I just want TabMixPlus to finally fix their dumb plugin and make it work again
[23:18] <fta> asac, mine is 479
[23:18] <asac> LLStarks: first: file a bug
[23:18] <asac> fta: what wsa the build problem
[23:18] <asac> ?
[23:18] <BUGabundo> doh....
[23:18] <fta> checking for iwlib.h... no
[23:18] <fta> configure: error: Can't find header iwlib.h for Necko WiFi scanning (might be in package iwlib-dev (Ubuntu) or wireless-tools-devel (Fedora)); use --disable-necko-wifi to disable
[23:18] <fta> make: *** [build-tree/mozilla/config.status] Error 1
[23:18] <asac> fta: was the patch i landed involved? (i swear i tested if it applies with the current topmost changelog revision)
[23:19] <BUGabundo> brb
[23:19] <asac> fta: ah ok
[23:19] <BUGabundo> need to wack a few ppl
[23:19] <asac> fta: thanks. did you add libiw-dev?
[23:19] <LLStarks> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/402767
[23:19] <LLStarks> ENJOY
[23:19] <fta> asac, yes
[23:19] <asac> i think we need to add that actually to eanble wifi
[23:19] <asac> good catch
[23:19] <LLStarks> add firefox-3.6 ubuntu to that
[23:19] <asac> so some luck it started to fail
[23:19] <asac> LLStarks: thats your bug?
[23:19] <asac> ok
[23:19] <LLStarks> consensus: multisearch is pure fail.
[23:19] <asac> LLStarks: i think i already commented on that?
[23:20] <fta> asac, no, they added that configure check today, but the feature was there since last week
[23:20] <BUGabundo> LLStarks: want to co-file one against Notify-OSD beeing over FF search?
[23:20] <asac> fta: huh? but before they used wireless extension for this geolocation thing?
[23:20] <fta> asac, yes
[23:20] <fta> mozilla 503597
[23:20] <asac> fta: i think we forgot to enable it ;) ... which would explain why i just processed a bug yesterday where someone complained that it doesnt work
[23:21] <LLStarks> This new extension essentially cripples the toolbar. I can't search images, news, or use functions like define:word
[23:21] <asac> (besides the weaknesses that wireless extension imposes)
[23:21] <LLStarks> oh shit, bug. i hate that!
[23:21] <fta> asac, no, it's enabled by default, but the lib is loosely loaded at run time
[23:21] <LLStarks> notifications are pest
[23:22] <asac> fta: and what at compile time? so 3.5 shipped their own headers and didnt need the -dev package?
[23:22] <asac> LLStarks: is that a different bug? (notifications)?
[23:22] <LLStarks> yah
[23:23] <LLStarks> it's annoying tho
[23:23] <BUGabundo> asac: fta: any of you on laptop and karmic?
[23:23] <asac> yes
[23:23] <BUGabundo> open GPM and enable and disable DIM
[23:23] <asac> LLStarks: what is annoying about notifications? font size?
[23:23] <asac> BUGabundo: that hung for me the last time i tried that
[23:23] <asac> i disabled dimming because of that
[23:23] <asac> like a few weeks ago
[23:23] <LLStarks> asac, it covers the search box
[23:23] <asac> not sure i want to enable it just now
[23:23] <BUGabundo> LLStarks: use full nick or I won't get pinged. lets file it then
[23:24] <BUGabundo> asac: with DIM it has less brigh EVEN when I'm using it on AC
[23:24] <BUGabundo> stupid
[23:24] <asac> LLStarks: yeah but it goes away if you go with mouse over it ... at least notify-osd does
[23:24] <BUGabundo> need someone to cross check
[23:24] <LLStarks> asac, as long as multisearch kills google functions, i will press hard to see it removed.
[23:24] <LLStarks> as long as you package it, you are not my ally
[23:24] <asac> LLStarks: the bug is not youre above, how about opening a new one
[23:25]  * micahg doesn't understand this mutisearch
[23:25] <micahg> is it a new extension
[23:25] <LLStarks> i can't file right now, lp is semi-down
[23:25] <micahg> or does it come with FF?
[23:25] <asac> LLStarks: yeah. good.
[23:25] <micahg> LP will be back up in a half hour
[23:25] <BUGabundo> will someone explain to me what multisearch actually does?
[23:28] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137598
[23:28] <BUGabundo> I wonder if my dim bug is a regression from this one
[23:28] <fta> asac, Jul 18 23:12:36 <fta>   lol, mozilla 479898
[23:28] <BUGabundo> mozilla?!?!?!?
[23:29] <fta> for geolocalization
[23:29] <micahg> we have bug 398205 that I didn't know what to do with
[23:30] <BUGabundo> ahh
[23:30] <BUGabundo> 3.5 and above?
[23:30] <asac> fta: right but it needs iwlib.h ... would think its in libiw-dev
[23:31] <asac> micahg: did the reporter answer yet on that?
[23:31] <BUGabundo> LLStarks: #+1 has more supporters for your multisearc bug
[23:32] <asac> BUGabundo: we currently have modified newtab experience to find out how important newtb would be for user-experience; based on the results we will then discuss if or what to do.
[23:32] <BUGabundo> what's newtb?
[23:32] <asac> newtab
[23:32] <BUGabundo> and is it 3.5 ONLY?
[23:32] <asac> if you hit ctrl+t
[23:32] <asac> no its in 3.0 and 3.5
[23:32] <BUGabundo> nope
[23:32] <asac> and maybe 3.6
[23:32] <BUGabundo> I get it on 3.6
[23:32] <BUGabundo> I WANT MY BLANK
[23:33] <asac> yeah coulud be. is a pretty simple extension that should work everywhere
[23:33] <BUGabundo> it has always been blank
[23:33] <asac> BUGabundo: you should open a bug against firefox-3.0 then
[23:33] <BUGabundo> :(((
[23:33] <asac> and firefox-3.5
[23:33] <asac> add two tasks
[23:33] <BUGabundo> BUT you CHANGED my system
[23:33] <BUGabundo> without me asking for it
[23:33] <BUGabundo> its a FF setting
[23:33] <asac> we change your system all the time while you ride the devel release
[23:33] <asac> its a new thing. so that got added. you can disable it in tools -> addons
[23:34] <BUGabundo> so when I asked fta if that javascript option would be re-enable with the fix, he said NO
[23:34] <asac> yes
[23:34] <BUGabundo> and now I get changes to stuff like HOMEPAGE?
[23:34] <BUGabundo> darn
[23:34] <asac> we dont change preferences
[23:34] <asac> but you didnt have any preference for newtab
[23:34] <BUGabundo> I did for HOME PAGE
[23:34] <BUGabundo> which HISTORICLY is  == NEWTAB
[23:34] <asac> yes. but home page isnt changed
[23:34] <asac> no
[23:34] <asac> thats not true
[23:34] <asac> newtab is empty
[23:34] <asac> by default
[23:35] <asac> not homepage
[23:35] <BUGabundo> (11:32:37 PM) billybigrigger: time to start using chromium again i think :)
[23:35] <BUGabundo> (11:33:31 PM) DanaG: Wow, that was installed without consent.
[23:35] <BUGabundo> hey Pici you too?
[23:35] <BUGabundo> lol
[23:36] <Pici> BUGabundo: Huh?
[23:36] <asac> BUGabundo: file a bug and post such things there
[23:36] <asac> thats probably best
[23:36] <BUGabundo> Pici: nvm
[23:36] <BUGabundo> asac: LP down
[23:36] <BUGabundo> if it was up LLStarks already would
[23:36] <BUGabundo> LLStarks: when you do, sub me to IT
[23:36] <BUGabundo> I don't like this change a bit either
[23:37] <billybigrigger> +1
[23:38]  * BUGabundo BUGabundo turns #U-MT into #u+1
[23:38] <BUGabundo> hahaha
[23:38] <BUGabundo> the 1st guy to see LP back up, file the bug against 3.0
[23:38] <BUGabundo> and then asac will have to change it to 3.5
[23:38] <BUGabundo> once that becomes default
[23:38] <BUGabundo> that we should expect it to be in 2012 :p
[23:39]  * micahg stilll doesn't know what the bug is
[23:39] <BUGabundo> micahg: several actually
[23:39] <billybigrigger> micahg, tried to use the search bar in FF lately?
[23:39] <BUGabundo> micahg: newtab is now a search
[23:39] <micahg> no
[23:39] <BUGabundo> and Search engine defaults to costum search
[23:39] <BUGabundo> and not GOOGLE
[23:40] <BUGabundo> with all it usual options, like calendar, images, etc
[23:40] <micahg> works fine for me...
[23:40] <billybigrigger> firefox-3.0 (3.0.11+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2.me001) karmic; urgency=low
[23:40] <billybigrigger>   * add me001 multisearch feature for karmic alpha3
[23:40] <billybigrigger>     - add debian/extensions/*
[23:40] <billybigrigger> that is the problem
[23:40] <BUGabundo> micahg: upgrade and restart FF
[23:40] <micahg> ah
[23:40] <micahg> is it karmic only?
[23:40] <asac> yes
[23:40] <micahg> ah
[23:40] <micahg> that's why I can't see it;)
[23:41] <asac> for alpha 3
[23:41] <micahg> is ff shopping around the awesomebar search?
[23:41] <BUGabundo> asac: it would have been time better spent , getting new stuff from NM 0.8
[23:45] <asac> micahg: yes, we changed searches everywhere to get data on the various search places.
[23:47] <asac_> disconnect
[23:54] <micahg> L{P is back
[23:54] <asac__> yay ;) ... let the bugs begin
[23:54] <BUGabundo> ya ya
[23:54]  * BUGabundo opens apport
[23:55] <BUGabundo> $ apport-cli -fp firefox-3.0
[23:55] <BUGabundo> ohhh he left
[23:55] <BUGabundo> scared?
[23:55] <asac__> i am here
[23:56] <BUGabundo> ohh
[23:58] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/402767
[23:58] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/403246