[00:01] Hi ya [00:02] how can i move/replace all files/folders with newer ones? [00:06] New bug: #402727 in samba (main) "Install Ubuntu Server For File-Server Failed because dont install CUPS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402727 [00:12] eh? === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [00:15] New bug: #402776 in postfix (main) "while installing HP driver, application crashed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402776 [00:52] I have an NFS-mounted directory to which I want to let two different httpds, one from Ubuntu and one from Fedra, have read-write access. The problem is that www-data and the corresponding user in Fedora have different uids, so while they can both write to the directory, the Fedora httpd can't overwrite the Ubuntu's httpd's files nor vice versa. What's the easiest way to fix this? I'm tempted to stop one httpd, change the uid of www-data so [00:52] it's same on both servers, find the files that have the old uid, and restart that httpd. [00:55] usermod -u [00:57] jgedeon: So that's a "yes, that's a good idea"? [01:00] i am still for an article (new, preferably from 2009, i know of the old one which talks about mkinitrd) that covers how to migrate to software raid 1 short of reinstalling the OS [01:00] looking for that is [02:22] kirkland: ping [02:22] kirkland: is byobu in debian? [02:22] kirkland: found it, nevermind [03:06] couple quick questions: #1 - anyone ever experienced the package "unattended-upgrade" NOT automatically updating? I've ensured the config file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades , does have "Ubuntu jaunty-security"; allowed and i changed the mail ok, but it didn't report that i needed updates, nor did it update them. However apticron which i also installed to test, sent an email that listed ~4 dozen security updates? [03:07] #2 - i've got my DNS setup fine, i have entries like: ubuntu9ps IN A 192.168.0.85 , now i can ping: ubuntu9ps.altf2o.lan, but i'd like to be able to ping just 'ubuntu9ps' w/o the use of local hosts files. Is that possible with DNS? (I haven't come across an answer yet) === dpreacher3 is now known as dpreacher [04:03] altf2o: configure your resolver (client) to use the domain 'altf2o.lan' as its default [04:06] wow, either i'm mental or Ubuntu is resetting my settings. I would've bet money i changed resolve.conf. It was wrong, that issue is now resolved thank you! :). [04:14] altf2o: resolv.conf is rewritten by dhcpd [04:14] *dhcpc [04:14] Probably network-manager, that nightmare from hell, also pisses all over resolv.conf [04:26] altf2o: man dhclient.conf and check out the supersede statement in particular [04:35] awesome, thanks guys! Looks like i got it working ok now. I'll see what happens in a couple reboots. [04:42] ; [04:49] altf2o: Now you have working DNS, does doing sudo unattended-upgrade upgrade things the way you expect? [04:55] sigh... I wonder which package bug 402776 belongs to.. because it certainly isn't postfix [04:55] Launchpad bug 402776 in postfix "while installing HP driver, application crashed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402776 [04:58] lamont: poorly written driver? [04:58] lamont: There aren't too many postfix installations with HP drivers :) The real question is, can the reporter reproduce the issue? :) [05:00] It can probably be marked incomplete and the reporter can be asked for steps to reproduce, which will help identify the application concerned... if it can in fact be reproduced. [05:02] he was setting up his printer... so yeah, I'll worry about that tomorrow then [05:04] lamont: I think it's the same /var/lib postinst failure we've seen before, but I couldn't be bothered enough to read the terminal log to know for sure. [05:21] ScottK: ah postinst fail? [05:21] interesting [05:21] I'll read the terminal log first tehn [05:21] but for now, sleep [05:25] jmarsden: i upgraded by hand, but now typing: sudo unattended-upgrade, it did produce the log file in /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ which did state there was none. So it appears to all be ok, i'll see when i get the next notification for security updates and see what it does. [05:26] altf2o: OK. Yes, I think fixing the DNS issue will have also fixed the unattended-upgrade one. Of course, the "fix" is temporary until you edit /etc/dhclient.conf ... don't forget :) [05:26] Make that /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf [05:29] awesome! Thanks once again :). Checking the man page now. It appears my server is ok, rebooted and all settings were fine. But i noticed in /etc/network/interfaces there was actually no eth0 entry. I'll edit both and reboot, see if it doesn't stick again. [05:29] sorry on my workstation client, i noticed that about no eth0, server is ok. [05:47] The workstation may be using Network Manager instead of /etc/network/interfaces ? [05:50] * twb hatessss the network manager [07:57] hello, everytime I install any package on my ubuntu machine using apt the process completes ok but it always comes with a bunch of insserv warnings. Please take a look at http://dpaste.com/69822/ to see the lines. I'd like to find out how to get rid of them, even though they may say they are warnings and not errors. thanks [08:17] insserv isn't supported on Ubuntu IIRC [08:18] but so far we've not put in anything apart from the repos and the default install of a ubuntu server 8.10 [08:18] I think someone foolishly made universe enabled by default in 8.10 [08:19] insserv was in universe in 8.04, at least [08:19] "Use this package with care, as incorrect or missing dependencies can give you an unbootable system." [08:19] oh...can you explain please what enabling universe means twb [08:19] so can i remove it? [08:19] The "universe" category holds packages that do not receive formal support from Canonical. [08:19] Well, see, the thing about insserv is that removing it doesn't undo the damage [08:19] ohh [08:19] how user friendly [08:20] I certainly wouldn't install it on a production system, unless that system was SuSE [08:20] I dunno how you managed to install it accidentally. [08:20] you don't like SUSE? [08:20] No, insserv is native to SuSE. It's supported there [08:20] but if i'd installed insserv, i'd definitely known about it [08:21] i dunno what package got it there...is there some way to see what pkgs depend on it [08:21] using apt or aptitude? [08:21] aptitude why insserv? [08:21] even question mark also? [08:21] Maybe "aptitude search ~i~Dinsserv" [08:22] no why worked [08:22] Cool [08:22] I'm trying to learn to use why more [08:22] i see that chkconfig recommends that and i think chkconfig isn't native to ubuntu like its to the red hat distro [08:22] I am too clever, see, so I reinvent why using search primitives [08:23] red hat based i mean [08:23] Ah, yeah, I would normally use rcconf not chkconfig [08:23] yes without clever ppl it'd be so hard to learn n be clever myself [08:23] so if i remove chkconfig, then i won't need insserv and could remove that right? [08:23] Yes, but as I noted 17:19 Well, see, the thing about insserv is that removing it doesn't undo the damage [08:24] thats also there :( [08:24] chkconfig was easy to use, is rcconf also cli/ncurses based, coz server edition hasn't had a GUI yet [08:24] Honestly, though, you are *probably* safe from insserv breaking anything [08:24] rcconf is a text UI [08:24] cool [08:25] so twb how do i further alleviate the problem...should i disable universe repo?...gotta learn that myself and what about insserv, what all ways can i stop further damage? [08:25] Removing insserv will stop it doing anything more [08:26] Basically what insserv does is change the order of files in /etc/rc?.d/* [08:26] You could recover them with some work, but it's a major pain in the arse. [08:26] do you say that rcconf is a safer tool? [08:26] twb [08:26] rcconf just changes what services run at boot [08:26] insserv changes the order in which they run [08:27] u mean the S12 or K34 order like startup order and shutdown order [08:27] Yes [08:27] I don't think it keeps a backup, either [08:27] so is it needed if i wanted to have such an order or could i have that order manually as well [08:28] The point is that the default order is tested; insserv changes it and might change it to be wrong if dependencies are not declared correctly by the init script maintainers [08:29] true. i didn't mean to alter that order but of any script that i might put at boot or shutdown [08:29] when i type aptitude show insserv does it show the version available or the installed version...if i could see the installed version i cud look up relevant bug reports [08:29] twb you've been really helpful. thank you so much [08:29] apt-cache policy will show you all known versions [08:29] oic [08:30] I dunno which aptitude show tells you; the aptitude GUI will list all versions if you click on a package in the list [08:31] somedody know how i can incorporate a new ruler with iptables? [08:31] i see. gotta go for lunch...i think i'll get that chkconfig replaced with rcconf after doing some reading about migrating the settings [08:31] * cef wonders when someone will actually triage his vm-builder bug and get around to assigning it to debootstrap instead [08:31] laters twb [08:53] hello, somebody know how I can incorporate rulers in IPtable? [08:55] <_ruben> rulers? [09:00] yes [09:00] i mean incorporate register in IPTABLE [09:01] register what and whom? [09:04] how manage iptables [09:04] i need to add one line in iptable [09:07] ahh that makes more sense now. default iptables firewall setup on ubuntu is ufw, and it's config file is in /etc/ufw/ (though some bits are in the file /etc/defaults/ufw ) [09:07] 'man ufw' is your friend [09:08] well is not very good friend...but thanks a lot [09:09] no problem [09:13] rose_: there is also a gui package (gufw). not used it myself. [09:42] rose_: To add one rule to iptables on the fly, man iptables and notice the -I option :) But if you are new to iptables rules, do not do that, use ufw instead, it is simpler and easier. Its man page has reasonable simple examples it it too, which helps newcomers. [10:44] hi [10:44] any recommendations for a ftpd with virtual users/easy configuration. i want to access my /var/www/mypage via ftp [10:49] user345fgh: i prefer ssh an scp [10:50] me too [10:50] just for some windows guys [10:52] winscp is lovely little windows program which gives you scp with gui [10:52] simplexio: user345fgh disappeared before anyone could mention WinSCP or FileZilla for those Windows guys :) [10:56] Hi [10:56] I was wondering if I could follow the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html on debian too? [10:58] i mean .. is there any reason to run ftp anymore, other than anymouns read only file sharing [10:59] hi again, I just intaled a samba domain member server and i nee the windows/mac PC can see my Samba server, but when i do \\myserver.domain.com ..i got this machine is not found in the network...somebody can helo me? [10:59] helo rose_ [10:59] helo! [11:16] i want to accept incoming ssh connections on my ext port 10122 and forward them directly to a client on my lan at port 22. is this the correct way? http://paste.ubuntu.com/224227/ [12:21] can someone help me with this ssh forwarding issue, please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/224282/ [12:33] I have a question regarding Ubuntu validated hardware is anyone available to advise? [12:35] Can anyone enlighten me as to why the sixth generation Hewlett Packard Proliant DL360 and DL380 servers are specified as being a PC (x86) architecture and not 64-bit PC (x86_64), like their predecessors the G5? [12:36] On Ubuntu's Validated Hardware list [12:37] With regards to Ubuntu's Validated Hardware list , I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to why the sixth generation Hewlett Packard Proliant DL360 and DL380 servers are specified as being a PC (x86) architecture and not 64-bit PC (x86_64), like their predecessors the G5. [13:26] hi again, I just intaled a samba domain member server and i nee the windows/mac PC can see my Samba server, but when i do \\myserver.domain.com ..i got this machine is not found in the network...somebody can helo me? [13:27] helo rose_ [13:44] rose_: dunno, when i have used samba to server something i had to use \\MACHINE or \\xxx.xx.xx.x ip addres to acces [13:45] rose_: maybe machine.domain.org return ip addr that dosent listen samba etc [13:45] New bug: #403013 in php5 (main) "php : snmpwalk don't provide last entry" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403013 [13:52] hi all [13:53] is the dell SAS6iR raid controler suport by ubuntu? [14:04] hi simplexio...thanks to respond...how i can know that? === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [15:41] hi [15:42] has somebody experiences with 3ware Inc 9650SE SATA-II RAID controllern? [15:42] the server with this controllers has a huge load [15:42] but there is no process which use the cpus [15:44] is there a better resource for xen on ubuntu than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen because its horribly out of date, still talking about Fiesty and Gusty. [16:12] I've just had our data center at The Planet load Ubuntu Server 8.10. Initially, we had no network connectivity. Apparently on restarting the networking daemon, they got "Network Variables Missing - eth 0 failed to start." /etc/network/interfaces looks properly configured - configured for static IP, not dhcp. What else can I try, given I have remote (root) access only? === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [16:21] peterkirn: probably need to do some research to see if the nic card is supported, or what type it is [16:23] This is strange, too -- /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent-net.rules is blank. [16:24] b3nw: so if I'm correct, I assume that could simply mean the network interface isn't persisting from session to session? It's frustrating, as this is a dedicated server sitting in a data center. This should theoretically be their tech's problem, but now they're claiming they don't "really" support Ubuntu Server and that it's a "desktop" OS and not suited to server use. (yeah... augh.) [16:25] peterkirn: Why 8.10? [16:26] ScottK: Well, let's put it this way -- I'm happy to reload to LTS. I was concerned about a couple of dependencies on 8.04, and specifically had been experimenting with etckeeper (although, upon reflection, maybe not a great reason to choose 8.10 over LTS!) [16:27] peterkirn: How about 9.04? [16:27] I'd suggest either the most recent or LTS. [16:27] ScottK: I don't think they gave 9.04 as an option. [16:28] ScottK: But yes, I'd consider reloading to LTS. Even before switching, though, it'd help to know if there's a particular bug. [16:29] I've not had any similar trouble, so if there is a bug, I'd guess something hardware specific. [16:29] ScottK: I should be able to do apt-get dist-upgrade to 9.04 from this machine, though, even if they didn't provide it as a preload option, I assume? :) [16:29] peterkirn: Yes, although do-release-upgrade is the recommended tool. [16:30] ScottK: Okay, thanks. Do you know of any reason /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent-net.rules would be blank? Is there anything else I should be doing to ensure that eth0 persists as eth0? [16:31] peterkirn: I don't. My experience with 8.10 and the kernel wasn't good, but I didn't have any network problems. [16:33] ScottK: I don't know of any significant networking service changes... but of course could be something subtle. I've asked the Planet for more info on this NIC. If they don't really support ubuntu, they should stop offering it as an OS reload choice and should have said something when I asked specifically. ;) [16:34] Agreed. [16:34] ScottK: what kernel issues did you encounter? [16:34] A sata controller bug that caused failed to boot was the really annoying one. [16:45] ScottK: Yeah, the more I look at this, the more it looks like some sort of odd NIC incompatibility... which I won't know for sure until I hear back what the card is. And that *could* be kernel related, too, of course. [18:00] has anyone ever used analog to analyze apache files? [18:07] yes, but analog doesn't present it as well as webalizer...analog is far better for firewall logs and syslogs, imho [18:08] kirkland: have you tried to test the alpha3 iso candidate under kvm with virtio drives? [18:09] mathiaz: no, i have not [18:09] mathiaz: i'm rsyncing the images now [18:09] kirkland: ok - I'm seeing a lot of I/O request error on vda in the guest [18:10] mathiaz: is this a recent regression? [18:10] kirkland > kvm84+libvirt pretty reliable for the last week here btw [18:10] yann2: great to hear [18:11] kirkland: yes [18:11] kirkland: alpha2 was working correctly [18:11] kirkland: as I've run all the iso test for alpha2 on my server [18:11] mathiaz: what's the kernel difference between those two? [18:11] has anyone ever used analog to analyze apache files? i need some help configuring it. [18:12] anyone setup a bouncer on ubuntu-server before? [18:12] kirkland: now in the meantime I've also updated kvm on the host (I'm using the kvm backport on a hardy host) [18:13] kirkland: hm - I don't remember which kernel alpha2 was running [18:14] kirkland: ok - you're downloading the alpha3 candidate now anyway [18:14] kirkland: could you confirm whether you see the same issue? [18:14] mathiaz: yeah, sure [18:15] kirkland: I see that at the begining of the install while it tries to mount vda1 as an ext4 partition [18:20] ScottK: at least found out the NIC. Broadcom 95722 PCI-E ...but then, yeah, that doesn't leave me anywhere, really, not familiar with it. [18:24] anyone installed BNC before? [18:59] mathiaz: ps -ef | grep kvm [18:59] mathiaz: what's your kvm command line look like? [19:00] kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/224589/ [19:00] kirkland: I'm using libvirt to start my vm machines [19:00] kirkland: ^^ this is the command line taken from the qemu log file [19:02] mathiaz: yup, reproduced here [19:07] mathiaz: can you reproduce it with a karmic desktop guest? [19:07] kirkland: hm - I haven't tried that yet. [19:07] kirkland: I don't have a desktop guest though. [19:07] mathiaz: i reproduced the problem with a karmic server guest [19:08] mathiaz: but not with a karmic desktop [19:08] mathiaz: thinking it might be a kernel problem [19:08] mathiaz: neither of those vm's are karmic-current yet [19:08] kirkland: are you doing installs? [19:08] mathiaz: i'm snapshotting both, and then upgrading [19:08] mathiaz: not yet [19:08] kirkland: IIRC both server and desktop isos are using the same kernel [19:08] mathiaz: these are existing machines [19:08] kirkland: ok. [19:09] mathiaz: oh, you're seeing this in the isos [19:09] kirkland: yes [19:09] hrm [19:09] kirkland: Let me boot an existing vm to see if I see the same IO error [19:14] kirkland: hm - I don't see any of the error on my karmic guest [19:14] mathiaz: ? [19:14] kirkland: however this guest is using an lvm snapshot as the base file [19:15] kirkland: while the install uses a qcow2 file [19:15] mathiaz: yeah, i reproduced the error using the desktop installer [19:16] kirkland: should I test something else? [19:19] mathiaz: do you have an alpha2 iso still? [19:19] mathiaz: it would be good to back down and see where the regression occurred [19:19] mathiaz: i'm going to start installing older kernels [19:19] mathiaz: as i think this is pretty clearly a kernel regression [19:23] kirkland: I don't have any alpha2 iso laying around [19:23] mathiaz: btw... on boot, do you get an fsck error? [19:23] mathiaz: about not cleanly shutting down? [19:23] kirkland: on my karmic guest? no [19:23] kirkland: let me check though [19:24] kirkland: hm - yes I do have an fsck error [19:24] mathiaz: unable to check? [19:24] mathiaz: can you pastebin it? [19:24] kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/224638/ [19:24] kirkland: ^^ from kern.log [19:29] mathiaz: hmm, okay, i think that's unrelated [19:29] kirkland: yeah - me too. [19:29] kirkland: I can see similar entries dating back to jaunty [19:29] kirkland: (in kern.log) [19:37] mathiaz: okay, i installed jaunty's kernel on an up-to-date karmic server ... errors go away [19:37] kirkland: is this with -generic or -server? [19:37] mathiaz: -server [19:38] kirkland: right - the installer uses -generic [19:38] mathiaz: now, i'm trying these: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [19:38] kirkland: ok. Let me know if I should conduct another test. [19:39] mathiaz: let me identify the last good kernel [19:39] mathiaz: and i'll get you to verify that [19:39] kirkland: ok. Note that I *don't* see the error on my regular guest where use lvm snapshots [19:39] kirkland: I only see the error on qcow2 files [19:41] mathiaz: gotcha [19:41] mathiaz: alls i have is qcow2 files [19:41] mathiaz: could you try maybe with a raw file? [19:41] kirkland: sure === ejat is now known as e-jat [19:42] kirkland: it may take a while as I'm on something else right now [19:42] okay [19:43] mathiaz: on the plus side, virtio network is working extremely well :-) [19:43] mathiaz: i'm downloading at native speeds :-) [19:52] kirkland > on kvm84 virtio-disk is slower than the default [19:52] a bit weird but :) [20:03] mathiaz: can you install http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/ and see if your problems go away? [20:04] kirkland: I'll give it a try a bit later. [20:04] kirkland: hm well. I only see a problem when I try install from an iso [20:04] kirkland: replacing the kernel on the iso seem impossible without respinning [20:04] mathiaz: right [20:05] mathiaz: you need a vm where you experience the problem in userspace [20:05] (i have several) [20:05] such that you can replace the kernel [20:05] kirkland: right - I'll first try to use raw/qcow2 files [20:05] kirkland: may be I'll be able to reproduce that way [20:16] I am planning to create md0(/boot,sda1,sdb1,100mb,raid1), md1(/,sda2,sdb2,75gb,raid1) and md2(swap,sda3,sdb3,raid0) [20:16] any other recommendation to creat md ? [20:16] during initial install that is [21:16] i have configured postfix to work with my gmail account using SASL, now issues is i have configured the following in redmine "smtp server: localhost, port:25, authetication:none", and in postfix's mail.log i get: http://pastebin.com/m6d481b0a [21:33] hi. on postfix, is there a way to filter some emails with a particular charset in the header to a particular domain/address ? [21:33] something like mime_header_checks, but only for some address/domain, not globally [22:11] You must think this channel support every possible application package [22:31] Bilge: Postfix is the primary MTA for Ubuntu Server, so we do tend to support it. [22:31] * ScottK does not, however, know the answer to that question. [22:35] It is? [22:35] How is it primary? [22:36] Bilge > probalby the only one in main? [22:37] I thought Exim was also [22:37] postfix is the one it uses when you use the turnkey mail server [22:42] Exim is also in Main, but Postfix is the one we support in our documentation and the one defined as default when an MTA is needed to be installed. [22:46] some of us persist in using exim still === wulfmax is now known as wulfmax_