=== cbrake_away is now known as cbrake === cbrake is now known as cbrake_away [07:43] lool, [07:43] crw-rw---- 1 root root 90, 0 2009-07-14 14:01 /dev/mtd0 [07:43] crw-rw---- 1 root root 90, 2 2009-07-14 14:01 /dev/mtd1 [07:43] in case you still need to know === cbrake_away is now known as cbrake [13:08] Is the performance of ARM under QEMU reasonable enough to compile? I'm having a problem with my cross compile tools(x86 to x86) and was looking at that to eliminate linking against my host environment accidentally [13:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BuildEABIChroot might probably help a bit [13:12] though note that it doesnt really speed up gcc itself [13:12] but everything around it :) [13:24] rjune_wrk: It's terribly slow [13:24] rjune_wrk: Are you targetting multiple packages or a single software? [13:24] rjune_wrk: cross compiling is the fastest [13:24] And you can use icecream to fake cross compiling from a native paltform [13:25] I mean to fake compiling with xcompiling [13:35] lool: I want to build on the arm for my x86 box. [13:36] are any of the emulated environments good? [13:36] how do you mean "any" :) [13:36] there is only qemu [13:37] yes, but qemu will emulate multiple archs [13:37] there are various hacks to it though [13:37] I need one that's pretty well supported and relatively quick.\ [13:37] My first thought was ppc as I know it's well supported. [13:38] but qemu doesn't seem to support ppc so well [13:38] not fast at least [13:39] i know vagrantc played with ppc in qemu 0.11 just yesterday for ltsp support, ask him about the results [14:01] will do, thanks [14:31] lool, so you got your beagle, eh ? :) [14:36] I did! [14:36] The board and its case are great [14:36] bah, i'm envious ! [14:36] but i'll get my B2.5 tomorrow at least [14:36] SheevaPlug yesterday, BeagleBoard today [14:37] Lange 5.1 was expected today as well, but FedEx couldn't deliver it [14:37] what do you want with a Sheeva ? [14:37] Nothing :) [14:37] heh [14:37] I'm playing with it [14:37] running jaunty on it for the next century :) [14:37] Making installation easy with opensource tools; it's still possible to run jaunty and right now karmic on it [14:37] btw, update-manager change is pushed [14:37] Well jaunty is supported for 3 years, right? [14:38] cool [14:38] 3 years [14:38] * ogra boggles [14:41] lool, btw, robert nelson provides debs (sadly no source) for beagle kernels [14:42] http://www.rcn-ee.com/deb/kernel/beagle/ [15:26] Bug 32084 [15:26] Launchpad bug 32084 in gnome-screensaver "Fade In" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32084 [15:27] i love excessively descriptive bugtitles ... [15:49] ogra: Is there a way to load uboot and its env from MMC? [15:49] I tried pressing the user button when resetting, but that didn't show a different boot sequence [15:49] Perhaps I need to write it at 0x400? [15:49] hmm, i dont remember [15:50] its a while ago that i played with uboot on the beagle [15:51] Oddly the uboots I build don't have MMC support [15:52] is it in the config options ? [15:52] I'm using the default beagle config [15:56] CONFIG_MMC is set in include/configs/omap3_beagle.h [15:56] weird [15:57] i know you need to put MLO and uboot on the MMC and it shoudl just boot from that [15:57] I didn't have MLO [15:58] http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot_booting [15:59] ogra: You just put MLO in the vfat? [15:59] i think you dd it .. there was a howto anywhere [16:00] ah, no you just copy it apparently [16:00] http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSourceCode [16:00] Bah MLO 404s [16:00] Note: To use MLO, U-Boot and kernel images from above, rename downloaded files to MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage at your SD card. I.e. remove the extensions to distinguish the download files. [16:02] Error: reading boot sector [16:02] Loading u-boot.bin from nand [16:03] Hmm I might have disrespected formatting requirements [16:03] you found an x-loader ? [16:03] Do I need one? [16:03] Oh MLO, yeah [16:03] From the files section [16:10] http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/downloads/list seems to have revc specific binaries [16:10] Yes that's what I grabbed for MLO [16:11] Cool it worked [16:11] :) [16:11] Still no MMC support [16:11] Despite having CONFIG_MMC in the config [16:11] oh, did you see my comment on the gnome-keyring bug btw ? [16:12] I did [16:12] thats really odd [16:12] It might or might not be toolchain related [16:12] Perhaps the toolchain helps a race [16:12] i didnt change the toolchain [16:12] only gcc [16:12] Odd, even with the new Uboot I don't have USB tty [16:13] MUSB: using high speed [16:13] In: serial usbtty [16:13] Out: serial usbtty [16:13] Err: serial usbtty [16:13] sounds about right [16:13] no output ? [16:13] I don't think I have to use a type A cable, do I? [16:13] No device on the USB port [16:13] no idea, i have revB [16:13] thats not capable of MUSB [16:24] I don't understand [16:25] [104939.636022] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 [16:26] hmm, but thats kernel [16:26] not uboot [16:30] That's on the host side [16:31] hmm [16:31] i see that a lot in karmic, but never had probs due to it [16:38] This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem. [16:40] weird [16:41] it should become a ttyUSB device [16:41] Ok got it working [16:42] cool ! [16:44] new to armlinux, does it have a generic irc like mipslinux for mips? [16:47] I had a nice host crash [16:47] After typing reset in the beagleboard console [16:48] ugh [16:48] It seems these weird USB thingies can trigger nice kernel crashes on the host side [16:48] It was weird to see Xorg go away and the kernel restart [16:48] probably the MUSB code is still a bit young [16:48] Since I had set udev to info or debug, not sure, my machine takes forever to come back up [16:48] Note that this is on the HOST side [16:49] yeah [16:49] So I'd guess the ADC driver or whatever is the issue [16:49] still, you never know what it might send through the cable [16:49] and if your host sees it as usb modem or something ... [16:49] So the reason it didn't work is because I was powering via a separate USB cable [16:49] Once I only powered with mini USB, it worked -- as odd as it seems [16:50] very odd [20:03] Hi Ogra, may I consult with you regarding the http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu [20:43] beyossi: He may be out right now, he's in Germany, so it's roughly GMT + 3 or so there [20:45] +2 [20:46] Thanks. [21:05] lool: +2? [21:05] You voting for ogra now too? [21:09] GMT+2/UTC+2 [21:16] ah [22:30] unlike mips/powerpc, the armlinux devel is totally distributed, in that the armlinux site looks like in stone age, and there is no good irc for it either... === ian_brasil is now known as ian_brasil_afk