[07:43] <ogra> lool,
[07:43] <ogra> crw-rw---- 1 root root 90, 0 2009-07-14 14:01 /dev/mtd0
[07:43] <ogra> crw-rw---- 1 root root 90, 2 2009-07-14 14:01 /dev/mtd1
[07:43] <ogra> in case you still need to know
[13:08] <rjune_wrk> Is the performance of ARM under QEMU reasonable enough to compile? I'm having a problem with my cross compile tools(x86 to x86) and was looking at that to eliminate linking against my host environment accidentally
[13:12] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BuildEABIChroot might probably help a bit
[13:12] <ogra> though note that it doesnt really speed up gcc itself
[13:12] <ogra> but everything around it :)
[13:24] <lool> rjune_wrk: It's terribly slow
[13:24] <lool> rjune_wrk: Are you targetting multiple packages or a single software?
[13:24] <lool> rjune_wrk: cross compiling is the fastest
[13:24] <lool> And you can use icecream to fake cross compiling from a native paltform
[13:25] <lool> I mean to fake compiling with xcompiling
[13:35] <rjune_wrk> lool: I want to build on the arm for my x86 box.
[13:36] <rjune_wrk> are any of the emulated environments good?
[13:36] <ogra> how do you mean "any" :)
[13:36] <ogra> there is only qemu
[13:37] <rjune_wrk> yes, but qemu will emulate multiple archs
[13:37] <ogra> there are various hacks to it though
[13:37] <rjune_wrk> I need one that's pretty well supported and relatively quick.\
[13:37] <rjune_wrk> My first thought was ppc as I know it's well supported.
[13:38] <rjune_wrk> but qemu doesn't seem to support ppc so well
[13:38] <ogra> not fast at least
[13:39] <ogra> i know vagrantc played with ppc in qemu 0.11 just yesterday for ltsp support, ask him about the results
[14:01] <rjune_wrk> will do, thanks
[14:31] <ogra> lool, so you got your beagle, eh ? :)
[14:36] <lool> I did!
[14:36] <lool> The board and its case are great
[14:36] <ogra> bah, i'm envious !
[14:36] <ogra> but i'll get my B2.5 tomorrow at least
[14:36] <lool> SheevaPlug yesterday, BeagleBoard today
[14:37] <lool> Lange 5.1 was expected today as well, but FedEx couldn't deliver it
[14:37] <ogra> what do you want with a Sheeva ?
[14:37] <lool> Nothing :)
[14:37] <ogra> heh
[14:37] <lool> I'm playing with it
[14:37] <ogra> running jaunty on it for the next century :)
[14:37] <lool> Making installation easy with opensource tools; it's still possible to run jaunty and right now karmic on it
[14:37] <ogra> btw, update-manager change is pushed
[14:37] <lool> Well jaunty is supported for 3 years, right?
[14:38] <lool> cool
[14:38] <ogra> 3 years
[14:38]  * ogra boggles
[14:41] <ogra> lool, btw, robert nelson provides debs (sadly no source) for beagle kernels
[14:42] <ogra> http://www.rcn-ee.com/deb/kernel/beagle/
[15:26] <ogra> Bug 32084
[15:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 32084 in gnome-screensaver "Fade In" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32084
[15:27] <ogra> i love excessively descriptive bugtitles ...
[15:49] <lool> ogra: Is there a way to load uboot and its env from MMC?
[15:49] <lool> I tried pressing the user button when resetting, but that didn't show a different boot sequence
[15:49] <lool> Perhaps I need to write it at 0x400?
[15:49] <ogra> hmm, i dont remember
[15:50] <ogra> its a while ago that i played with uboot on the beagle
[15:51] <lool> Oddly the uboots I build don't have MMC support
[15:52] <ogra> is it in the config options ?
[15:52] <lool> I'm using the default beagle config
[15:56] <lool> CONFIG_MMC is set in include/configs/omap3_beagle.h
[15:56] <ogra> weird
[15:57] <ogra> i know you need to put MLO and uboot on the MMC and it shoudl just boot from that
[15:57] <lool> I didn't have MLO
[15:58] <ogra> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot_booting
[15:59] <lool> ogra: You just put MLO in the vfat?
[15:59] <ogra> i think you dd it .. there was a howto anywhere
[16:00] <ogra> ah, no you just copy it apparently
[16:00] <ogra> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSourceCode
[16:00] <lool> Bah MLO 404s
[16:00] <ogra> Note: To use MLO, U-Boot and kernel images from above, rename downloaded files to MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage at your SD card. I.e. remove the extensions to distinguish the download files.
[16:02] <lool> Error: reading boot sector
[16:02] <lool> Loading u-boot.bin from nand
[16:03] <lool> Hmm I might have disrespected formatting requirements
[16:03] <ogra> you found an x-loader ?
[16:03] <lool> Do I need one?
[16:03] <lool> Oh MLO, yeah
[16:03] <lool> From the files section
[16:10] <ogra> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/downloads/list seems to have revc specific binaries
[16:10] <lool> Yes that's what I grabbed for MLO
[16:11] <lool> Cool it worked
[16:11] <ogra> :)
[16:11] <lool> Still no MMC support
[16:11] <lool> Despite having CONFIG_MMC in the config
[16:11] <ogra> oh, did you see my comment on the gnome-keyring bug btw ?
[16:12] <lool> I did
[16:12] <ogra> thats really odd
[16:12] <lool> It might or might not be toolchain related
[16:12] <lool> Perhaps the toolchain helps a race
[16:12] <ogra> i didnt change the toolchain
[16:12] <ogra> only gcc
[16:12] <lool> Odd, even with the new Uboot I don't have USB tty
[16:13] <lool> MUSB: using high speed
[16:13] <lool> In:    serial usbtty
[16:13] <lool> Out:   serial usbtty
[16:13] <lool> Err:   serial usbtty
[16:13] <ogra> sounds about right
[16:13] <ogra> no output ?
[16:13] <lool> I don't think I have to use a type A cable, do I?
[16:13] <lool> No device on the USB port
[16:13] <ogra> no idea, i have revB
[16:13] <ogra> thats not capable of MUSB
[16:24] <lool> I don't understand
[16:25] <lool> [104939.636022] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2
[16:26] <ogra> hmm, but thats kernel
[16:26] <ogra> not uboot
[16:30] <lool> That's on the host side
[16:31] <ogra> hmm
[16:31] <ogra> i see that a lot in karmic, but never had probs due to it
[16:38] <lool> This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem.
[16:40] <ogra> weird
[16:41] <ogra> it should become a ttyUSB device
[16:41] <lool> Ok got it working
[16:42] <ogra> cool !
[16:44] <xxiao> new to armlinux, does it have a generic irc like mipslinux for mips?
[16:47] <lool> I had a nice host crash
[16:47] <lool> After typing reset in the beagleboard console
[16:48] <ogra> ugh
[16:48] <lool> It seems these weird USB thingies can trigger nice kernel crashes on the host side
[16:48] <lool> It was weird to see Xorg go away and the kernel restart
[16:48] <ogra> probably the MUSB code is still a bit young
[16:48] <lool> Since I had set udev to info or debug, not sure, my machine takes forever to come back up
[16:48] <lool> Note that this is on the HOST side
[16:49] <ogra> yeah
[16:49] <lool> So I'd guess the ADC driver or whatever is the issue
[16:49] <ogra> still, you never know what it might send through the cable
[16:49] <ogra> and if your host sees it as usb modem or something ...
[16:49] <lool> So the reason it didn't work is because I was powering via a separate USB cable
[16:49] <lool> Once I only powered with mini USB, it worked -- as odd as it seems
[16:50] <ogra> very odd
[20:03] <beyossi> Hi Ogra, may I consult with you regarding the http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
[20:43] <rjune_wrk> beyossi: He may be out right now, he's in Germany, so it's roughly GMT + 3 or so there
[20:45] <lool> +2
[20:46] <beyossi> Thanks.
[21:05] <rjune_wrk> lool: +2?
[21:05] <rjune_wrk> You voting for ogra now too?
[21:09] <lool> GMT+2/UTC+2
[21:16] <rjune_wrk> ah
[22:30] <xxiao> unlike mips/powerpc, the armlinux devel is totally distributed, in that the armlinux site looks like in stone age, and there is no good irc for it either...