ubottuUbuntu bug 403248 in gnome-power-manager "DIM will dim my screen even when not idle" [Undecided,New]00:01
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LLStarksbug 40276800:06
ubottuBug 402768 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/402768 is private00:06
micahgwhat is that filed under?00:07
asacLLStarks: you made it private or something00:08
LLStarkssomebody did00:08
asacLLStarks: or you submitted a crash (that takes a bit until triagers can see)00:08
LLStarksyou rec'd that bug number to me00:09
asacLLStarks: are you still subscribed to the bug? can you see it?00:09
micahgdo you mean bug 402767?00:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40276700:09
LLStarksI can't see it. Period.00:09
asacyes, i never talked about ...67800:10
asaconly the one micahg referred to00:10
asacbug 40276700:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40276700:11
BUGabundoone digit aboce00:16
asacBUGabundo: i asked something on the bug00:21
BUGabundowhich one???00:22
BUGabundosince I posted like 400:22
micahgBUGabundo: bug 40324600:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 403246 in firefox-3.0 "please restore old NEWTAB" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40324600:25
* BUGabundo reads00:25
BUGabundoasac: disabling the new addon I get old NEWTAB ?00:27
* BUGabundo finds confusing to call new old00:28
BUGabundoasac: do you remember that old old old bug I told you LONG ago of spellcheker not working ok with keyboard shortcut?00:30
asacBUGabundo: which did you post?00:33
asacBUGabundo: can you tag them multisearch please?00:33
BUGabundobut is it related?00:33
BUGabundosee FF memory leak00:33
asacthats an old one00:33
BUGabundoits already done00:34
BUGabundosome one beat me to it00:34
BUGabundo59           Alexander Sack   tags   amd64 apport-bug   amd64 apport-bug multisearch00:34
asaci think i tagged one of yours, yes00:36
asacthought you filed 4 bugs ;)00:37
BUGabundodone on 40276700:37
asacok cool. at lesate the BadWindow band-aid seems to work for me00:38
asacthough no new lines ;)00:38
asac(just updatred xulrunner-1.9.2)00:39
* BUGabundo checks for updates00:41
asacBUGabundo: did you fix your lost search engines?00:44
BUGabundoon debian?00:44
asacmost likely you did uninstall firefox-3.000:44
asacoh. no clue then00:44
BUGabundohummm I installed an addon for it00:44
asacjust saw your dent00:44
BUGabundoyou are too lazy to keep track00:44
asac9h ago00:44
asacwell. gwibber crashed again ;)00:44
BUGabundonot for me00:45
BUGabundobeen ROCKING00:45
BUGabundosince u fixed it00:45
asacyeah its better00:45
asacbut there are still threading issues00:45
asacbut 2.0 should fix those - at least00:45
asacbut most likely we will see other bad things ;)00:45
BUGabundothat will only come around sept00:45
BUGabundocan't wait00:45
BUGabundoits so kewl00:45
BUGabundobut won't run for me :(00:45
asacwill come soon to trunk00:45
asaci wanted to review current merge requests and then we wanted to cut a 1.2 branch making room for merging down the 2.0 effort00:46
asacto trunk00:46
asacanyway off ... happy that this band-aid worked a bit - though really need to track down whats wrong there; its odd00:48
BUGabundoasac: and nm 0.8?00:48
BUGabundowhen will we have new snapshot?00:48
ftaBUGabundo, i tried to open your image, it failed, it's an html file00:58
ftaBUGabundo, i then tried to open the png linked in that page, ff exploded00:59
Twigathyfta: hm, the meta-refresh works for me!00:59
ftai mean, it started to suck at the memory, i had to kill X :(00:59
ftaPNG image, 16384 x 16384, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced01:00
TwigathyI'll change it to a link instead01:00
LLStarksgif rendering is borked i think02:02
e-jatbugs 32877802:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 328778 in python-mode "python-mode.el: sexp commands don't understand Python" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32877802:09
e-jatasac : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32877802:09
ubottuMozilla bug 328778 in Plug-ins "nsPluginHostImpl::UserAgent returns NULL for user agent longer than 128 characters" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]02:09
e-jatis it already been in daily package?02:09
micahge-jat: that was in ff3.0.402:15
e-jatsorry .. i mean https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45194402:15
ubottuMozilla bug 451944 in Plug-ins "Fx crashes when displaying PDF with Adobe Reader 9.0.0 with modified user agent string [@ msvcr80.dll@0x14500] ("nsPluginHostImpl::UserAgent return=(null)" when UA string exceeds a length limit (more than 25 extra characters))" [Critical,Resolved: duplicate]02:15
micahgsame thing02:16
e-jat.. i still having prob while opening .pdf directly ..02:18
micahgis it the user agent though?02:18
e-jatbug 40120702:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401207 in firefox-3.5 "shiretoko crash when closing page pdf viewed (dup-of: 367080)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40120702:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 367080 in acroread "Acrobat Reader SIGSEGV when embedded in Firefox" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36708002:19
micahgve also been having problems since I installed acroread02:21
micahge-jat: jaunty has 9.1202:32
micahgping asac08:08
e-jat!ping asac08:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ping asac08:08
micahgno, the bot doesn't know asac :)08:09
e-jatmicahg: :)08:11
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asace-jat: yes, mozilla bug 328778 should be fixed for ages09:17
ubottuMozilla bug 328778 in Plug-ins "nsPluginHostImpl::UserAgent returns NULL for user agent longer than 128 characters" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32877809:17
micahghi asac09:21
ejatasac: will you respond to gen kanai's email :)09:24
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asachi micahg09:26
asace-jat: gen kanai?09:26
micahgwhat to do with bug 403275?09:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 403275 in firefox-3.5 "eroor language firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40327509:26
e-jatasac: email from gen[at]mozilla[dot]com09:27
asacyes. i should do that asasp09:30
e-jatbut for us .. we still need to finish the xulrunner translation 1st right ?:(09:31
asacthats the case in any case09:32
asace-jat: also on top of my todo list is to enable all launchpad translations during development cycle09:32
asacso that teams can actually see the progress they are making (or notmaking)09:32
asaci think that will help a lot. we still need a process then how to figure which translations will make the cut and which wont (for the final release)09:33
asacthe other topic is exporting for upstream. thats still on my list. i talked to gandi and i finally understand how the hg upstream source trees for translations are layouted09:34
asacits really a bit tricky.09:34
e-jatill wait for it .. and maybe we will do it on our GlobalJam09:40
micahgasac: I should remove you as assignee if Fix Released, right?09:48
asacmicahg: i dont really mind ... fix released wont show up on my open bug list - which is all that matters09:55
micahgI took you off that one...I'll just leave you then in the future09:56
micahgI'm trying to clean out old already released fixes in ff3.0 when I'm too tired to do anything else09:56
asacheh. thats brave09:57
micahgI just use the already fixed upstream filter09:57
asacyeah. how many did you spot?10:01
micahg39 left10:02
micahgI did 3 today10:02
micahgoh, and we have pretty graphs for ff3.5 now : http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/firefox-3.510:02
asacoh thats quite  few ;)10:03
asacgreat qa page10:03
asaci hope we can keep it below 1k for a while ;)10:03
micahgwell, we have about 300 confirmed + triaged in ff3.0 which will probably need to be added to ff3.510:04
micahgthat's already 40010:04
micahgand I subscribed to ff3.5 so I can see everything that's added10:05
micahgso I can be mroe aware of dups10:05
asacyeah. should we write a script to do that mass assignment?10:05
ftaasac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29407835/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.firefox-3.6_3.6~a1~hg20090722r30558%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:05
micahgI don't think so10:05
asacfta: yes10:05
micahgit'll give us a chance to make sure the reports aren't stale10:05
micahgor needing info upstream10:05
micahgor stuck upstream and needing a push10:06
asacfta: wonder if we should fix the build system rather. i dont think ffox itself needs it10:06
micahgoh, and I noticed that I seem to be the most active for bugs for some reason in the firefox project on LP10:07
ftaasac, in fact, i was talking about what's after the failure..10:07
micahgok, 4AM, need to sleep10:07
asacfta: ?10:07
asacmicahg: good night10:08
ftamicahg, 'night10:08
ftaasac, hm, i think it's my fault10:08
ftaRemoving xulrunner-1.9.2 ...10:09
ftaupdate-alternatives: error: no alternatives for xulrunner.10:09
ftaupdate-alternatives: error: no alternatives for xulrunner.10:09
ftadpkg: error processing xulrunner-1.9.2 (--purge):10:09
fta subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 210:09
asacfta: sorry. whats the problem?10:09
asacfta: let me fix it. update-alternative changed its behaviour (to the good, while breaking the hacks i had everywhere)10:11
asacfta: committed 48010:12
ftastrange, i didn't get any commit mail10:14
asacfta: i committed like a few seconds ago10:18
asaclet me check if i unbound the branch10:18
Troublefta: Can I ask if you're planning on updating your PPA Thunderbird 3 beta 2 package to beta 3 at some point?10:19
asacTrouble: use the dailies for now ;)10:21
asacfta: should be there10:22
TroubleRoger wilco ;-)10:22
asacfta: are you on the libiw-dev problem in firefox?10:29
ftaasac, feel free, i'm on the phone10:30
ftaasac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1350410:47
asacfta: crazy10:50
asacfta: i mean that says they dont care about desktop configurations?10:50
asacor do they use desktop defaults and the bug was about changing that?10:50
ftanot sure10:51
asacfta: how can i CC myself on google bugs?10:51
ftai don't know ion310:51
asacwitout commenting?10:52
asacah ... i can only vote?10:52
asacis there a way to subscribe and not vote ;)10:52
asace.g. i want to be a neutral listener10:52
asacfta: do you think we could spread around the daily uploads a bit?10:59
asaclike every 24/no_of_sources hour?11:00
asaclike we have 6 source packages daily tracked: run first at 0, second at 4, 8, 12 ...11:02
asaci think that gives in times of scarce builders a fairer perception because folks will be able to upload in between ;)11:02
asacotoh, that should be done by launchpad11:03
asaclike fair scheduling, etc.11:03
asacfta: you said we had a 24h wait at some point and ended up with upload rejected because of htat?11:05
asacdo you know how much builders / queue were at the time we uploaded that?11:06
asaci guess not11:06
asacwould just be interesting to know.11:06
asacwe could then check how the biulder/queue ratio is before uploading and dont upload if its too high11:07
asacmaybe automatically file a launchpad bug stating "couldnt upload because too many builds in queue for dailies"11:07
ftaasac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ppa.txt11:11
ftabut strangely, it's less granular than on the web site (lp)11:12
ftaasac, i really think we should stay like that, it will expose the problem more clearly, and people will start to take actions (either by pushing their stuff in a different time slot, or by filing bugs, or by hacking lp)11:16
ftaor by adding more builders ;)11:16
asachmm. ok11:22
asacbut can we use an earlier time ;)11:23
asac2009/07/08 02:18:011395027034411:23
asac2009/07/08 02:18:011395027034411:24
ftalangpacks, maybe11:24
ftaask pitti11:24
ftaasac, initially, i didn't want to push that during business hours11:26
asacyeah. but seems that european afternoon/early evening is the worst time11:26
asacbecause US has business and we are in sparetime high11:27
ftaasac, sending ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu7~fta3 to my staging ppa..12:27
ftafreshly updated12:27
asacfta: great. i will be back at home later today and can check it right away too. did you do some testing?12:28
ftano, i'm on 32bit here too12:28
ftabut i'm sick of all those ia32 bug reports12:28
asacok. so i will check. hopefully we get something this time that we can upload12:28
EruditeHermithey guys12:29
EruditeHermitany idea why o3d on 64bit is really slow compared to native 32bit?12:29
ftaasac, no rush, the builders are still busy since yesterday :P12:30
asacEruditeHermit: maybe something falls back to software?12:30
asacfta: did anything from our dailies not finish yet?12:30
ftaEruditeHermit, probably no dri when running the 32bit binaries12:30
asacbut looks like they catch up12:30
ftaasac, no, for once, it's not us12:30
EruditeHermitfta: how come?12:31
asaci think its still the end of our impact that we see this morning ;)12:31
EruditeHermitand how would you tell?12:31
ftatry glxinfo from the 32bit deb12:31
asacthats first approach12:32
asacnot sure if libCg is clearly bug free on amd6412:32
EruditeHermitI am using libCg 2.212:32
EruditeHermit2.1 doesn't work12:32
asacnot at all or just not on amd64?12:32
EruditeHermitnot at all for AMD cards12:33
asacfta: do we have any trick how to get rid of the normal stamp-makefile-build: rule from CDBS?12:34
EruditeHermitwhat do you mean by glxinfo from 32bit deb?12:34
asacEruditeHermit: get the 32bit deb where glxinfo is in12:35
asacand run it12:35
asace.g. extract it somewhere12:35
asacand run12:35
asacfta: or just touch debian/stamp-makefile-build12:36
EruditeHermitthats a good idea12:36
ftaasac, what for?12:37
asacfta: i want to do my own12:38
asacfta: http://pastebin.com/f56c1001012:38
asaci hate the idea to extend the normal make command with MOZ_PROFILE_GENERATE and then add another rule that hopefully gets run after that which does the rest12:39
ftaEruditeHermit, for me, it fails like this:12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:46 <fta>   intel x64 fails because of this:12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/tls/i965_dri.so12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64)12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/tls/swrast_dri.so12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64)12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so12:40
ftaJul 14 13:33:47 <fta>   libGL error: reverting to indirect rendering12:41
EruditeHermitfta: for me it says it has DRI enabled12:41
EruditeHermitand is using fglrx12:41
ftafor me, gl doesn't know how to load from /usr/lib3212:41
EruditeHermitfta: http://pastebin.com/m65ba9eab12:42
ftahm, strange, so i don't know12:43
ftafor me it's clearly broken because of ia32 / gl12:44
EruditeHermitits the mouse rotation that is really slow12:45
EruditeHermitit happens when there are large meshes12:47
EruditeHermitlots of vertex data12:47
EruditeHermitwhy would that be?12:48
gnomefreaki just broke thunderbird. i lost the sortby and threaded menu options under view menu? any idea on how to get it back?12:48
gnomefreakalso lost message pane view menu entry12:49
gnomefreakduye to whatever i did cuased my email to not be whown in that box either12:51
gnomefreakrename it == fix it most likely however i need those emails that are already there and new profile will not help that12:53
gnomefreakok look slike i hit view>sort by> grouped by sort. how to i reverse this if it greys the sort by and threaded menu entries?13:00
asacgnomefreak: maybe its daily breakage?13:04
asactry to downgrade13:04
asacto yesterdays build13:04
gnomefreakasac: im just now getting an update for it. it was working fine until i did that. i got this update ~20 hours ago or so13:05
gnomefreaki was unable to find something in advanced settings that could causes this only on one box. and there is no restore defaults anywhere13:07
gnomefreakhm maybe safe mode?13:08
gnomefreakjust the inbox of that email box13:10
asachmm. doesnt bzr bd log the output somewhere?13:11
gnomefreakasac: i have 4 sorttype errors in error console13:11
gnomefreakasac: isnt it in ~/.bzr.log or .bzrlog13:11
gnomefreakasac: .bzr.log13:12
gnomefreakisnt that it? other wise i pipe it to a file its easier that way13:12
gnomefreakasac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/227118/ line 1572 do you see anything that can help me?13:14
gnomefreak--safe-mode no help13:16
asacgnomefreak: yes.13:16
asachave you downgraded?13:16
asactry to downgrade13:17
asacthen we have to check what they changed and see if they already fixed it in hg13:17
asacotherwise file a bug or prod them in #maildev13:17
asacyes. does the day before that fix it?13:18
gnomefreakthat update i just got was yesterdays build the one i broke it on was i guess the 21st13:19
gnomefreak3.0~b4~hg20090721r3111 was the one i was working in when i messed it up than it updated to the ...22..... build and still there13:19
asacdo you know how to retrigger when starting with fresh profile?13:21
gnomefreakasac: do i know how to do it again with new profile?13:21
gnomefreakit seems new profile fixed it i can not reproduce it with clean one. how do i fix mine though :(13:24
ftaasac, Estimated build start:  in 59 seconds13:26
asacnot so bad13:26
gnomefreakwould install --reinstall help?13:28
asacgnomefreak: to downgrade? no you need to go down explicitly13:28
asacyou will figure13:28
gnomefreakasac: i know how to down grade13:28
asaci am about to go out for some extended afternoon errands13:28
asacwill be back in 2-3h13:28
gnomefreaknot the point. downgrading is still using same profile13:28
asacgnomefreak: your problem is not a --reinstall problem13:28
asacsorry have to run13:29
gnomefreakasac: its a configure setting in profile13:29
eagles0513875i think ssh is broken or something of the sort13:29
gnomefreak"somehting worng" == ???? chant log in? cant connect?13:31
eagles0513875cant login saying password is incorrect but it is13:32
gnomefreaksh than is it? im thnking more like ssh-ask-password or another password handler13:34
gnomefreaknot ssh than is it that should ready13:34
gnomefreakoh shit i think i backed it up yesterday13:35
gnomefreakor not13:36
eagles0513875its ssh13:43
gnomefreakusing bzr push using ssh+bzr it works13:44
eagles0513875might need to upgrade since i havent upgraded anything on there since upgrading yesterday13:44
gnomefreakeagles0513875: as i understand it bzr push ssh's into bzr than bzr pushes it13:44
gnomefreakeagles0513875: what version of ssh?13:44
eagles0513875let me run upstairs and check im trying to connect from my mac13:45
gnomefreakah bzr doesnt require ssh so i dont have it installed13:45
bluekujahi all13:46
bluekujaasac, this evening your debian system is back?13:46
gnomefreakbluekuja: hes gone for a few hours13:46
eagles0513875hey bluekuja13:46
eagles0513875gnomefreak: its openssh 5.113:46
bluekujagnomefreak, ty13:47
eagles0513875thats the server im running on that box13:47
bluekujaeagles0513875, hello :)13:47
eagles0513875bluekuja: = blueskaj O_O or not13:47
bluekujabluekuja is bluekuja13:47
gnomefreakeagles0513875: you mean the guy from #kubuntu?13:48
eagles0513875ya and offtopic13:48
bluekujaeagles0513875, np13:49
gnomefreakconfused me too but i learned they are not same person13:49
eagles0513875hehe im seeing blue all over the place but now i know they not the same13:49
eagles0513875you guys wanna laugh a bit13:50
gnomefreakbetter than me crying over breaking this13:50
eagles0513875] <alteregoa> i would like to see a koala eating a eucalypt tree on the moon,13:53
eagles0513875idea for grub 2 spalshscreen lol13:53
eagles0513875gnomefreak: this is worse then on release day14:05
gnomefreakeagles0513875: it only get worse. i can end it but that would be bad (at leat my way)14:06
eagles0513875ya you think my openssh issue could be related to an upgrade problem?14:07
asacbluekuja: with some luck y.14:07
eagles0513875morning asac14:07
bluekujaasac, k, gonna ping you late this evening/night14:08
eagles0513875asac: you use ssh much14:08
gnomefreakeagles0513875: everything is related to upgrade until you find out different. just assume upgrade broke it :)14:09
asachi eagles051387514:09
eagles0513875ya it probably did14:09
asacnot sure if that question calls for work14:09
eagles0513875gonna purge openssh and reinstall and see if that fixes it14:10
asaci use ssh just for some stuff14:10
eagles0513875asac: cuz im trying to ssh to my linux box upstairs from my mac and i upgraded from jaunty to karmic yesterday and for some reason it doesnt want to accept my password when i know its correct14:10
gnomefreakoh hell blame apple14:10
eagles0513875it was working yesterday before the upgrade fyi so this isnt apple this time14:11
asaceagles0513875: usually should work. your ssh daemon might be set to "no password" mode14:11
eagles0513875tried no password14:11
asaceagles0513875: ssh -v hostname -lusername14:11
asacwhat do you get?14:11
eagles0513875still pops up again asking for it14:11
asacadd an authorized key thats better than password anyway14:12
eagles0513875i did then it asks for password14:12
eagles0513875it did yesterday when i tried it14:12
eagles0513875brb gonna purge openssh and reinstall14:13
asacssh -v14:13
asacthat might give a hint14:13
eagles0513875its open  ssh 5.1 this is the server im running on the linux box upstairs14:17
eagles0513875gnomefreak: the links to the isos here are broken https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-June/000578.html14:17
eagles0513875asac: version is same on this laptop as well14:18
eagles0513875blarg :( its a bug in the server14:20
gnomefreakeagles0513875: hold on they may just be being updated with a314:20
eagles0513875i think a reinstall is in order the upgrade broke14:20
gnomefreakeagles0513875: they were updated to a314:20
gnomefreakyour looking at something that was writen a month ago14:20
eagles0513875isnt that ubuntu though14:21
gnomefreakeagles0513875: but if you read the links they give they say "alpha-2" those links are no longer valid since they updated the seervers to use a314:22
gnomefreakyou will get it in email (assuming you are on that list)14:22
eagles0513875ahhh gotcha14:23
asaceagles0513875: try on max ssh localhost14:23
asactry the same on ubuntu14:23
asacthis should show you if ther eis a general problem or a mac-linux issue14:23
asacs/on max/on mac/14:24
eagles0513875brb gonna run upstairs14:24
eagles0513875seems like a mac issue14:26
eagles0513875i think14:26
eagles0513875ssh local host on mac gets teh connection refused on kubuntu it works when i run ssh localhost14:26
gnomefreakasac: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/398213 is there a work around i have someone bugging me about it14:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 398213 in gnash "package mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Medium,In progress]14:28
gnomefreakits the update-alrternatives bug14:28
* gnomefreak thinks iddo should not even be thinking of installing karmic if he cant find the installer14:30
eagles0513875hehe i cant either for kubuntu that link u gave me gnomefreak is for ubuntu14:30
gnomefreakeagles0513875: replace work ubuntu with kubuntu14:31
eagles0513875tried that gnomefreak said the page cant be found so they must be updating it or something14:33
gnomefreakeagles0513875: IIRC kubntu works on thier own isos and cj... pushes14:34
gnomefreakbut if kubuntu guys are not done link wont work14:34
eagles0513875ya doesnt look like they are done yet14:34
gnomefreakthat is my guess14:35
eagles0513875gnomefreak: it normally gets posted on the website wether it is kubuntu or ubuntu right14:38
gnomefreakeagles0513875: the wiki might have it  but most of times the links are thier just not working due to lack of iso on server14:39
eagles0513875well no links on wiki yet so ill just wait it out14:39
gnomefreakeagles0513875: use daily than14:40
ubottuDaily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/14:41
eagles0513875gnomefreak: whats the difference between the 2 links the 2nd one is a live cd and first isnt?14:41
gnomefreakmay have to change ubuntu to kubuntu but i dont know when tiers are posted14:41
gnomefreakeagles0513875: right14:41
eagles0513875seems like kubuntu daily doesnt work either its not finding the page14:42
eagles0513875nm found it14:42
eagles0513875its a mac lin issue14:52
gnomefreaki still cant find a backup-manager that compresses the files/diffs after backing up14:59
gnomefreaki have  abug in for deja-dup but it will be a while before that happens most likely14:59
eagles0513875haha ssh form mac to lin works operator error replace operator15:00
gnomefreakok im gone for a while15:33
ftaneeds-packaging   1748 pfff15:39
jcastrohi fta15:46
jcastrofta, are you going to link up and enable flash in your builds or just turn it on when upstream does?15:47
jcastrofor chromium I mean15:47
ftajcastro, http://identi.ca/notice/679656915:48
jcastroah, thanks!15:49
ftajcastro, i discussed this topic with upstream, they don't recommend it for massive deployment, it makes gmail slower15:49
ftai mean, --enable-plugins15:49
ftajcastro, ^^, so i provide hooks to do it, that file or an env var for those who are not root15:50
jcastroah ok, I was just wondering if you were discussing it with upstream15:50
ftajcastro, i do, i discuss with them almost every day, and i also the 1st to implement most of their new stuff, like the sandbox15:52
jcastroI see you commenting on bugs and stuff too15:53
jcastroI sent them a mail when I was at guadec15:53
jcastroit's getting quite good!15:53
ftajcastro, yep, i'm bug control there now15:53
ftajcastro, and author, but that's limited to patches making my life easier for the packaging15:54
jcastroafter flash the only thing I'm missing is gears, then I'll be happy15:55
ftawe're currently working on system libs for linux15:55
jcastrobut prism/gears works for me for now15:55
ftathere probably won't be gears for chromium.. hold on, there's a bug for that15:56
jcastroI couldn't find a bug15:56
* jcastro stars15:57
jcastroah I see, so they are skipping it15:57
jcastrothat is fine too since I guess gmail will use html5 at some point15:57
* asac thinks this upgrade is a good time to keep ffox 35 open to check if ubufox properly suggests a restarte15:58
jcastrook off to debconf, ttyl, thanks for the info15:58
asacjcastro: good luck for your travel/flight15:58
asacits hot in extremadura ;)15:58
asacwhich translated from latin means (yes, mine is rusty, so could be differnt): extremely hard ;)15:59
ftaalmost french, extreme + dur16:02
ftaasac, lol, the adm64 ppa queue went down to 0 only between 17:50 and 18:20 today16:12
asacthought our builds would be in at that time so it shouldnt be 0 ;)16:23
e-jatasac: r u upgrading to alpha3?16:47
asace-jat: i am running karmic since alpha116:51
asacjust upgrading after a few days away from this system16:52
* e-jat seeking for nearest mirror which have sync the alpha3 :)16:52
asaci have picked my mirror once based on how up to date it was and how close it was16:52
asacand i never looked back16:53
asacits much snappier than archive.ubuntu.com16:53
asacand only lags like 1-4 hours behind (full archive)16:53
e-jatasac: u use archive.ubuntu.com ?16:53
asaci did16:53
e-jatok thanks .. let me try that ..16:53
asacif you develop stuff you often dont want to wait another few hours16:53
asacit has good bandwidth, but not as good as the mirror i am using16:53
asacand i dont use the primary mirror for "de" country. that one lacks behind quite a few days16:54
e-jatasac: but sometime if major dist upgrade .. ill do it at office since it host the mirror16:55
e-jator am i already in alpha3 ? theres no update for me at all :(16:56
e-jateven i use archive.ubuntu.com16:56
asacmost likely16:57
asacif you run karmic you probably are running it for a few days16:57
e-jatk .. hopefully to upgrade my laptop to alpha3 a.s.a.p :017:07
micahgit amazes me how many people are complaining about multisearch in a development release17:07
ftaasac, my new ia32-libs is no better than the previous one. npviewer.bin crashes17:31
asacmicahg: heh. thats normal17:32
asacmicahg: i will eventually reply and try to address the concerns raised17:32
asacfta: sigh17:32
asacmicahg: i used the multisearch tag17:33
asacmicahg: maybe do that too if you get new ones (or merge them into existing ones)17:33
asaci would like to try to keep invidivual aspects separate though17:33
asacotherwise we will end up with an unusable mega-bug17:33
ftaasac, any idea?18:46
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asacfta: i have to install it first. you have a link to .deb?19:18
ftaasac, https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/staging/+files/ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu7~fta3_amd64.deb19:19
asachmm. didnt i fix the lsb-base linkae problem at some point19:41
micahgasac: does apport use firefox exclusively or can it use any browser?20:08
asacmicahg: i think it can use any browser20:08
micahgok, pitti's comment in 401055 suggests that it only uses FF, shouldn't it point to x-www-browser?20:09
micahgor call that?20:09
micahgbug 40105520:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401055 in firefox "Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-3.5' received an X Window System error (BadWindow)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40105520:10
asacwell. could be that other browsers dont provide all the feature required20:10
asacmicahg: i have a band-aid for that20:10
asacdidnt i comment on it?`20:10
micahgI might now have gotten the e-mail yet20:10
asacmicahg: my email was before pittis20:12
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ftaasac, i386      438 builds waiting in queue21:36
asacfile a bug ;)21:37
rickspencer3hi all21:37
asachey rick ;) ... welcome back from the solitude21:37
asacits rare that our channel is completely empty nowadays ;)21:38
ftafor some reason, it's even getting popular21:40
ftamaybe the -daily effect..21:40
asacalso firefox-3.5 is out effect gave us a few more21:41
ftagrr, i need a ia32-libs-dbg21:41
ftawhat would that be, 5GB source package? :P21:42
asacjdstrand: could you copy the xul 1.9.1 and ffox 3.5.1 to karmic now that alpha is out?21:42
asacjdstrand: oh sorry. confused. 1.9 and 3.0 ;)21:42
asacjdstrand:  firefox-3.0 - 3.0.12+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2   xulrunner-1.9 -
asacjdstrand: thanks. i am off21:43
asacwill lurk check in 2-3h before going to bed21:43
micahgdo we have to repackage flashplugin-nonfree if a new version comes out from adobe?21:55
micahgI guess that's a silly qeustion21:55
BUGabundohey guys21:59
BUGabundomicahg: well no21:59
BUGabundojust fix the md5 hash on it21:59
BUGabundoto match the one on the adobe website21:59
micahgBUGabundo: it's a silly question because we have to bump the version anyways22:00
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asacmicahg: when release comes out we update the url used to download it and the md5/sha1 sums22:39
asacso yeah22:39
asacbut we use url from partner repo because thats more reliably22:39
micahgok, I'm going to file a security vulnerability against the flash package for the new adobe exploit22:39
jdstrandasac: done22:40
asacjdstrand: gratias22:40
BUGabundoasac: I want my FF Search back :(22:42
asacBUGabundo: disable the addon ;)22:43
BUGabundoI don't like co-search22:43
BUGabundodon't have images link22:43
micahgasac: what I was wondering before is if apport should use the system browser vs firefox %url%22:43
asacmicahg: i think it does22:43
micahgI actually have a bug for this22:43
asaci think what pitti said ws more an example22:43
micahgat least with xfce22:44
asacif not then i agree ;)22:44
micahgbecuase right now it uses ff3 instead of 3,522:44
asacmicahg: have you update x-www-browser?22:44
micahglrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2009-03-29 00:43 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/firefox-3.122:44
asac3.1 is old isnt it?22:45
micahgit's a broken symlink22:45
micahgback frmo beta jaunty22:45
asachmm. then fix that22:46
asacmaybe it helps ;)22:46
micahgisn't that package provided?22:46
BUGabundowhy not xopen URL?22:46
asacthe package yes, but the link?22:46
asacnot sure22:46
micahgI didn't make it :)22:46
BUGabundothen again U1 is having a war with bugs on that22:46
* micahg is testing22:49
micahgstill launched firefox 3 :)22:50
micahgmaybe I have to restart apport22:50
BUGabundomicahg: what does alternatives say ?22:51
asacmaybe gnome-open?22:51
asaci think thats the one it uses. yeas22:51
BUGabundoasac: errr gnome (and xfce) specific :(22:51
micahglrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2009-05-03 10:32 gnome-www-browser -> /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko22:51
ftaasac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1235122:52
micahgdon't have it22:52
micahgI'm using xfce22:52
asachmm. file a bug against apport then22:53
asacdoesnt xfce ship gnome-open?22:53
micahgbug 35078422:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 350784 in apport "apport not using prefered system browser in XFCE" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35078422:53
asacincomplete ;)22:54
asacAh, you are using XFCE. Honestly I don't know where XFCE stores its preferred browser setting. If someone finds out, I'm happy to add that to apport.22:54
micahgguess I dropped the ball :)22:55
BUGabundomicahg: don't worry22:55
asaci thought xfce has its own XXX-open wrapper22:55
BUGabundoasac uses even less comon stuff22:55
asacthat is then checking whatever is configured22:55
* asac uses gnome :)22:56
BUGabundoback again?22:56
BUGabundowerent you using a ligth WM ?22:56
asacnah. ;)22:56
asaci like openbox ;)22:56
* Twigathy likes ratpoison on low-res screens and xfce with almost everything disabled on high-res ones :)22:57
asacxfce uses metacity?22:57
Twigathyratpoison is great - it's like screen for X >_<22:57
TwigathyI...don't have a metacity instance running :o22:57
* Twigathy wonders what makes the wallpaper on his desktop appear22:57
Twigathyxfdesktop maybe?22:59
fta$ ps aux | grep ssh | grep -c defunct23:02
asacwhats going on there?23:03
asac66 defunct?23:03
asacsounds like a bad state ;)23:03
BUGabundohey fta23:04
ftaon the server, each session leaves a zombie behind23:04
ftai can reproduce23:07
asacwhen did that start?23:18
ftanoticed that several days ago23:20
ftabut i had to reboot the server since, for a kernel update, and it's still there23:20
asaci386      413 builds waiting in queue23:22
BUGabundofta: coming from a guy that says : "code in C or don't code at all"23:28
ftai could say that too23:28
ftacode in C/perl/shell or don't code at all23:29
ftalol, from the same blog: http://climenole.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/firefox-3-5-ubuntu-whats-new-and-how-to-get-it/23:31
BUGabundofta: but linus said that about kernel coding23:32
BUGabundoseem a nice blog for me to add23:32
ftaBUGabundo, i could say that about anything23:33
BUGabundobut you aren't Linus !!!!!23:34
ftathat's why i used "could" in both of my sentences23:34
slash_networkwhen I try to install firefox 3.5 (freshly downlowded) on jaunty, I've taped "$sh run-mozilla.sh", I've got the error "run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute" (the same error as root). So what's the problem ?23:35
asac1st. dont start ffox as root :)23:35
asac2nd. why do you run run-mozilla.sh?23:36
asacslash_network: ?23:36
asacwhy not use firefox-3.5 aka /usr/bin/firefox-3.523:36
slash_network1: thx for the information :)23:37
slash_network2: I've tryed the commande above to install ff23:37
BUGabundoslash_network: when you have it on the repos and PPAs?23:37
asacslash_network: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support23:37
asactry that23:37
asacthen run firefox-3.523:37
slash_networkokey, thank you very much :-D23:38
asacia32 libs is annoying now ,)23:40
asacdidnt i fix nspluginwrapper at some point to link against upstream libs?23:40
asacwhat happened to that23:40
asacor is this a dejavu?23:40
asaci didnt upload it as it seems23:42
ftaasac, if you update nspluginwrapper, plz add a -dbg23:42
asacwhats going on ;)23:42
asacheh. well let me first see if the new nspluginwrapper kills the segfault23:42
asacor rather error23:42
asachmm. i think i remember that it didnt help, which is why i probably dropped the ball on uploading23:43
asacfta: whts wrong with -dbgsym?23:43
asacwe usually have no security updates23:43
asacso -dbgsym should be ok23:43
ftais there one?23:45
ftafta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison nspluginwrapper-dbgsym23:45
ftafta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison nspluginwrapper-dbg23:45
ftafta@cube:~ $23:45
asacfta: dbgsym packages are not in the archive23:46
asacthey are on ddebs.ubuntu.com23:46
asacdeb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic main universe23:46
ftaso what?23:46
ftafta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison scim-bridge-agent-dbgsym23:46
ftascim-bridge-agent-dbgsym | 0.4.16-2ubuntu2 | http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages23:46
ftathere's none23:47
* BUGabundo hates how blueprints changes look on email23:47
BUGabundoI can never tell what changed23:47
BUGabundoso it is not good23:47
ftasame here, i asked for a diff once23:48
ftathey sent me to hell23:48
ftaor something23:48
BUGabundowell now its OS23:50
fta2well, not quite brb23:50
BUGabundoyou can make a diff23:50
BUGabundoif you find the time23:51
fta2give me my ctrl alt backspace back, the magic key just do a kernel panic23:51
fta2now fsck on my disks23:52
asac_00:46 < fta> scim-bridge-agent-dbgsym | 0.4.16-2ubuntu2 | http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages23:54
fta2well, i had a look at the code, it's cryptic to me, bits of everything everywhere23:54
asac_00:47 < asac> thats odd then23:54
asac_00:48 < asac> not sure if we can produce 32-bit dbg symbols during 64 build23:54
asac_00:49 < asac> maybe two dh_strip runs23:54
asac_00:49 < asac> sounds ugly23:54
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fta2BUGabundo, ^^23:54
BUGabundoI read it fta223:56
BUGabundoseems like asac likes to talk to him self!23:56
fta2just meant it was for you, not for asac23:57
BUGabundo(11:54:03 PM) fta2: well, i had a look at the code, it's cryptic to me, bits of everything everywhere23:57
BUGabundoI know23:57
BUGabundoI'm blond, not stupid23:57
BUGabundofta2: want I _meant_ to say is that asac talks to himself, when he losses connection23:58
BUGabundoso maybe be I'm not the only blond around here????23:59
asacit needs a lot of sun for me to become blond ;)23:59

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