[00:01] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/403248 [00:01] Ubuntu bug 403248 in gnome-power-manager "DIM will dim my screen even when not idle" [Undecided,New] === asac__ is now known as asac [00:06] bug 402768 [00:06] Bug 402768 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/402768 is private [00:06] nice [00:07] what is that filed under? [00:08] LLStarks: you made it private or something [00:08] no [00:08] somebody did [00:08] LLStarks: or you submitted a crash (that takes a bit until triagers can see) [00:09] you rec'd that bug number to me [00:09] LLStarks: are you still subscribed to the bug? can you see it? [00:09] do you mean bug 402767? [00:09] Launchpad bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402767 [00:09] I can't see it. Period. [00:10] yes, i never talked about ...678 [00:10] only the one micahg referred to [00:11] bug 402767 [00:11] Launchpad bug 402767 in firefox-3.5 "multisearch add on blocks the functionality of firefox location bar" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402767 [00:16] LOLOLOL [00:16] one digit aboce [00:16] *above [00:16] woot [00:21] BUGabundo: i asked something on the bug [00:22] ok [00:22] which one??? [00:22] since I posted like 4 [00:25] BUGabundo: bug 403246 [00:25] Launchpad bug 403246 in firefox-3.0 "please restore old NEWTAB" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403246 [00:25] * BUGabundo reads [00:27] asac: disabling the new addon I get old NEWTAB ? [00:28] * BUGabundo finds confusing to call new old [00:30] asac: do you remember that old old old bug I told you LONG ago of spellcheker not working ok with keyboard shortcut? [00:33] BUGabundo: which did you post? [00:33] :s [00:33] BUGabundo: can you tag them multisearch please? [00:33] sure [00:33] great [00:33] but is it related? [00:33] http://home.twigathy.com/out.png [00:33] see FF memory leak [00:33] ahah [00:33] thats an old one [00:34] its already done [00:34] some one beat me to it [00:34] 59 Alexander Sack tags amd64 apport-bug amd64 apport-bug multisearch [00:34] doh [00:36] i think i tagged one of yours, yes [00:37] thought you filed 4 bugs ;) [00:37] done on 402767 [00:38] ok cool. at lesate the BadWindow band-aid seems to work for me [00:38] though no new lines ;) [00:39] (just updatred xulrunner-1.9.2) [00:41] * BUGabundo checks for updates [00:44] BUGabundo: did you fix your lost search engines? [00:44] on debian? [00:44] most likely you did uninstall firefox-3.0 [00:44] oh. no clue then [00:44] hummm I installed an addon for it [00:44] :) [00:44] just saw your dent [00:44] hahahaah [00:44] you are too lazy to keep track [00:44] ahahah [00:44] 9h ago [00:44] well. gwibber crashed again ;) [00:44] hee [00:44] yep [00:45] not for me [00:45] been ROCKING [00:45] since u fixed it [00:45] yeah its better [00:45] but there are still threading issues [00:45] but 2.0 should fix those - at least [00:45] but most likely we will see other bad things ;) [00:45] that will only come around sept [00:45] can't wait [00:45] its so kewl [00:45] but won't run for me :( [00:45] will come soon to trunk [00:46] i wanted to review current merge requests and then we wanted to cut a 1.2 branch making room for merging down the 2.0 effort [00:46] to trunk [00:48] anyway off ... happy that this band-aid worked a bit - though really need to track down whats wrong there; its odd [00:48] asac: [00:48] asac: and nm 0.8? [00:48] when will we have new snapshot? [00:58] BUGabundo, i tried to open your image, it failed, it's an html file [00:59] BUGabundo, i then tried to open the png linked in that page, ff exploded [00:59] fta: hm, the meta-refresh works for me! [00:59] i mean, it started to suck at the memory, i had to kill X :( [01:00] PNG image, 16384 x 16384, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced [01:00] I'll change it to a link instead [01:00] -at+all [02:02] asac [02:02] http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4780/gifu.png [02:02] gif rendering is borked i think [02:09] bugs 328778 [02:09] Launchpad bug 328778 in python-mode "python-mode.el: sexp commands don't understand Python" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328778 [02:09] asac : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328778 [02:09] Mozilla bug 328778 in Plug-ins "nsPluginHostImpl::UserAgent returns NULL for user agent longer than 128 characters" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [02:09] is it already been in daily package? [02:15] e-jat: that was in ff3.0.4 [02:15] sorry .. i mean https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451944 [02:15] Mozilla bug 451944 in Plug-ins "Fx crashes when displaying PDF with Adobe Reader 9.0.0 with modified user agent string [@ msvcr80.dll@0x14500] ("nsPluginHostImpl::UserAgent return=(null)" when UA string exceeds a length limit (more than 25 extra characters))" [Critical,Resolved: duplicate] [02:16] same thing [02:18] .. i still having prob while opening .pdf directly .. [02:18] is it the user agent though? [02:19] bug 401207 [02:19] Launchpad bug 401207 in firefox-3.5 "shiretoko crash when closing page pdf viewed (dup-of: 367080)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401207 [02:19] Launchpad bug 367080 in acroread "Acrobat Reader SIGSEGV when embedded in Firefox" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367080 [02:21] I' [02:21] ve also been having problems since I installed acroread [02:22] :) [02:32] e-jat: jaunty has 9.12 [08:08] ping asac [08:08] !ping asac [08:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about ping asac [08:09] no, the bot doesn't know asac :) [08:11] micahg: :) === Trouble is now known as Trouble` === Trouble` is now known as Trouble- [09:17] e-jat: yes, mozilla bug 328778 should be fixed for ages [09:17] Mozilla bug 328778 in Plug-ins "nsPluginHostImpl::UserAgent returns NULL for user agent longer than 128 characters" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328778 [09:21] hi asac [09:24] asac: will you respond to gen kanai's email :) === ejat is now known as e-jat [09:26] hi micahg [09:26] e-jat: gen kanai? [09:26] what to do with bug 403275? [09:26] Launchpad bug 403275 in firefox-3.5 "eroor language firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403275 [09:27] asac: email from gen[at]mozilla[dot]com [09:30] yes. i should do that asasp [09:31] but for us .. we still need to finish the xulrunner translation 1st right ?:( [09:32] thats the case in any case [09:32] e-jat: also on top of my todo list is to enable all launchpad translations during development cycle [09:32] so that teams can actually see the progress they are making (or notmaking) [09:33] i think that will help a lot. we still need a process then how to figure which translations will make the cut and which wont (for the final release) [09:34] the other topic is exporting for upstream. thats still on my list. i talked to gandi and i finally understand how the hg upstream source trees for translations are layouted [09:34] its really a bit tricky. [09:37] hmm [09:40] ill wait for it .. and maybe we will do it on our GlobalJam [09:48] asac: I should remove you as assignee if Fix Released, right? [09:55] micahg: i dont really mind ... fix released wont show up on my open bug list - which is all that matters [09:55] ok [09:55] well [09:56] I took you off that one...I'll just leave you then in the future [09:56] I'm trying to clean out old already released fixes in ff3.0 when I'm too tired to do anything else [09:57] heh. thats brave [09:57] I just use the already fixed upstream filter [10:01] yeah. how many did you spot? [10:02] 39 left [10:02] I did 3 today [10:02] oh, and we have pretty graphs for ff3.5 now : http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus/firefox-3.5 [10:03] oh thats quite few ;) [10:03] great qa page [10:03] i hope we can keep it below 1k for a while ;) [10:03] yeah [10:04] well, we have about 300 confirmed + triaged in ff3.0 which will probably need to be added to ff3.5 [10:04] so [10:04] that's already 400 [10:05] and I subscribed to ff3.5 so I can see everything that's added [10:05] so I can be mroe aware of dups [10:05] yeah. should we write a script to do that mass assignment? [10:05] asac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29407835/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.firefox-3.6_3.6~a1~hg20090722r30558%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [10:05] I don't think so [10:05] fta: yes [10:05] it'll give us a chance to make sure the reports aren't stale [10:05] or needing info upstream [10:06] or stuck upstream and needing a push [10:06] fta: wonder if we should fix the build system rather. i dont think ffox itself needs it [10:07] oh, and I noticed that I seem to be the most active for bugs for some reason in the firefox project on LP [10:07] asac, in fact, i was talking about what's after the failure.. [10:07] ok, 4AM, need to sleep [10:07] fta: ? [10:08] micahg: good night [10:08] night [10:08] micahg, 'night [10:08] asac, hm, i think it's my fault [10:09] Removing xulrunner-1.9.2 ... [10:09] update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for xulrunner. [10:09] update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for xulrunner. [10:09] dpkg: error processing xulrunner-1.9.2 (--purge): [10:09] subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 [10:09] fta: sorry. whats the problem? [10:09] no [10:09] ? [10:11] fta: let me fix it. update-alternative changed its behaviour (to the good, while breaking the hacks i had everywhere) [10:12] fta: committed 480 [10:14] strange, i didn't get any commit mail [10:18] fta: i committed like a few seconds ago [10:18] let me check if i unbound the branch [10:19] fta: Can I ask if you're planning on updating your PPA Thunderbird 3 beta 2 package to beta 3 at some point? [10:21] Trouble: use the dailies for now ;) [10:22] fta: should be there [10:22] Roger wilco ;-) [10:23] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.2.head/revision/480 [10:23] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.1.head/revision/473 [10:29] fta: are you on the libiw-dev problem in firefox? [10:30] asac, feel free, i'm on the phone [10:30] good [10:47] asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=13504 [10:50] fta: crazy [10:50] fta: i mean that says they dont care about desktop configurations? [10:50] or do they use desktop defaults and the bug was about changing that? [10:51] not sure [10:51] fta: how can i CC myself on google bugs? [10:51] i don't know ion3 [10:52] witout commenting? [10:52] ah ... i can only vote? [10:52] is there a way to subscribe and not vote ;) [10:52] e.g. i want to be a neutral listener [10:59] fta: do you think we could spread around the daily uploads a bit? [11:00] like every 24/no_of_sources hour? [11:00] ;) [11:00] ? [11:02] like we have 6 source packages daily tracked: run first at 0, second at 4, 8, 12 ... [11:02] i think that gives in times of scarce builders a fairer perception because folks will be able to upload in between ;) [11:03] otoh, that should be done by launchpad [11:03] like fair scheduling, etc. [11:05] fta: you said we had a 24h wait at some point and ended up with upload rejected because of htat? [11:05] yes [11:06] do you know how much builders / queue were at the time we uploaded that? [11:06] i guess not [11:06] would just be interesting to know. [11:07] we could then check how the biulder/queue ratio is before uploading and dont upload if its too high [11:07] maybe automatically file a launchpad bug stating "couldnt upload because too many builds in queue for dailies" [11:07] :-P [11:07] j.k. [11:11] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ppa.txt [11:12] but strangely, it's less granular than on the web site (lp) [11:16] asac, i really think we should stay like that, it will expose the problem more clearly, and people will start to take actions (either by pushing their stuff in a different time slot, or by filing bugs, or by hacking lp) [11:16] or by adding more builders ;) [11:22] hmm. ok [11:23] but can we use an earlier time ;) [11:23] 2009/07/08 02:18:01 139 502 70 3 4 4 [11:24] oops [11:24] 2009/07/08 02:18:01 139 502 70 3 4 4 [11:24] hmm [11:24] 502 [11:24] langpacks, maybe [11:24] ask pitti [11:26] asac, initially, i didn't want to push that during business hours [11:26] yeah. but seems that european afternoon/early evening is the worst time [11:27] because US has business and we are in sparetime high [12:27] asac, sending ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu7~fta3 to my staging ppa.. [12:27] freshly updated [12:28] fta: great. i will be back at home later today and can check it right away too. did you do some testing? [12:28] no, i'm on 32bit here too [12:28] but i'm sick of all those ia32 bug reports [12:28] ok. so i will check. hopefully we get something this time that we can upload [12:29] hey guys [12:29] any idea why o3d on 64bit is really slow compared to native 32bit? [12:30] hi [12:30] asac, no rush, the builders are still busy since yesterday :P [12:30] EruditeHermit: maybe something falls back to software? [12:30] hehe [12:30] fta: did anything from our dailies not finish yet? [12:30] EruditeHermit, probably no dri when running the 32bit binaries [12:30] but looks like they catch up [12:30] asac, no, for once, it's not us [12:31] 14/3/3 [12:31] hehe [12:31] fta: how come? [12:31] i think its still the end of our impact that we see this morning ;) [12:31] and how would you tell? [12:31] try glxinfo from the 32bit deb [12:32] thats first approach [12:32] not sure if libCg is clearly bug free on amd64 [12:32] I am using libCg 2.2 [12:32] 2.1 doesn't work [12:32] not at all or just not on amd64? [12:33] not at all for AMD cards [12:33] ATI/AMD [12:34] k [12:34] fta: do we have any trick how to get rid of the normal stamp-makefile-build: rule from CDBS? [12:34] what do you mean by glxinfo from 32bit deb? [12:35] EruditeHermit: get the 32bit deb where glxinfo is in [12:35] and run it [12:35] e.g. extract it somewhere [12:35] and run [12:35] oh [12:36] fta: or just touch debian/stamp-makefile-build [12:36] ? [12:36] ;) [12:36] thats a good idea [12:37] asac, what for? [12:38] fta: i want to do my own [12:38] fta: http://pastebin.com/f56c10010 [12:39] i hate the idea to extend the normal make command with MOZ_PROFILE_GENERATE and then add another rule that hopefully gets run after that which does the rest [12:40] EruditeHermit, for me, it fails like this: [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:46 intel x64 fails because of this: [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/tls/i965_dri.so [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64) [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/tls/swrast_dri.so [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64) [12:40] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so [12:41] Jul 14 13:33:47 libGL error: reverting to indirect rendering [12:41] fta: for me it says it has DRI enabled [12:41] and is using fglrx [12:41] for me, gl doesn't know how to load from /usr/lib32 [12:42] fta: http://pastebin.com/m65ba9eab [12:43] hm, strange, so i don't know [12:44] for me it's clearly broken because of ia32 / gl [12:45] its the mouse rotation that is really slow [12:47] ah [12:47] it happens when there are large meshes [12:47] lots of vertex data [12:48] why would that be? [12:48] i just broke thunderbird. i lost the sortby and threaded menu options under view menu? any idea on how to get it back? [12:49] also lost message pane view menu entry [12:51] duye to whatever i did cuased my email to not be whown in that box either [12:53] rename it == fix it most likely however i need those emails that are already there and new profile will not help that [13:00] ok look slike i hit view>sort by> grouped by sort. how to i reverse this if it greys the sort by and threaded menu entries? [13:04] gnomefreak: maybe its daily breakage? [13:04] try to downgrade [13:04] to yesterdays build [13:05] asac: im just now getting an update for it. it was working fine until i did that. i got this update ~20 hours ago or so [13:07] i was unable to find something in advanced settings that could causes this only on one box. and there is no restore defaults anywhere [13:08] hm maybe safe mode? [13:10] just the inbox of that email box [13:11] hmm. doesnt bzr bd log the output somewhere? [13:11] asac: i have 4 sorttype errors in error console [13:11] asac: isnt it in ~/.bzr.log or .bzrlog [13:12] asac: .bzr.log [13:12] isnt that it? other wise i pipe it to a file its easier that way [13:14] asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/227118/ line 1572 do you see anything that can help me? [13:16] --safe-mode no help [13:16] gnomefreak: yes. [13:16] have you downgraded? [13:17] try to downgrade [13:17] then we have to check what they changed and see if they already fixed it in hg [13:17] otherwise file a bug or prod them in #maildev [13:18] 3.0~b4~hg20090722r3117 [13:18] yes. does the day before that fix it? [13:19] that update i just got was yesterdays build the one i broke it on was i guess the 21st [13:19] 3.0~b4~hg20090721r3111 was the one i was working in when i messed it up than it updated to the ...22..... build and still there [13:21] do you know how to retrigger when starting with fresh profile? [13:21] asac: do i know how to do it again with new profile? [13:24] it seems new profile fixed it i can not reproduce it with clean one. how do i fix mine though :( [13:26] asac, Estimated build start: in 59 seconds [13:26] not so bad [13:28] would install --reinstall help? [13:28] gnomefreak: to downgrade? no you need to go down explicitly [13:28] you will figure [13:28] asac: i know how to down grade [13:28] i am about to go out for some extended afternoon errands [13:28] will be back in 2-3h [13:28] not the point. downgrading is still using same profile [13:28] gnomefreak: your problem is not a --reinstall problem [13:29] sorry have to run [13:29] asac: its a configure setting in profile [13:29] morning [13:29] i think ssh is broken or something of the sort [13:31] "somehting worng" == ???? chant log in? cant connect? [13:32] cant login saying password is incorrect but it is [13:34] sh than is it? im thnking more like ssh-ask-password or another password handler [13:34] not ssh than is it that should ready [13:34] read [13:35] oh shit i think i backed it up yesterday [13:36] or not [13:43] its ssh [13:44] using bzr push using ssh+bzr it works [13:44] ? [13:44] s/using/uses [13:44] might need to upgrade since i havent upgraded anything on there since upgrading yesterday [13:44] eagles0513875: as i understand it bzr push ssh's into bzr than bzr pushes it [13:44] ? [13:44] eagles0513875: what version of ssh? [13:45] let me run upstairs and check im trying to connect from my mac [13:45] ah bzr doesnt require ssh so i dont have it installed [13:46] hi all [13:46] asac, this evening your debian system is back? [13:46] bluekuja: hes gone for a few hours [13:46] hey bluekuja [13:46] gnomefreak: its openssh 5.1 [13:47] gnomefreak, ty [13:47] thats the server im running on that box [13:47] eagles0513875, hello :) [13:47] bluekuja: = blueskaj O_O or not [13:47] bluekuja is bluekuja [13:47] lol [13:47] ok [13:47] apologies [13:48] eagles0513875: you mean the guy from #kubuntu? [13:48] ya and offtopic [13:49] eagles0513875, np [13:49] confused me too but i learned they are not same person [13:49] hehe im seeing blue all over the place but now i know they not the same [13:50] :) [13:50] you guys wanna laugh a bit [13:50] better than me crying over breaking this [13:53] ] i would like to see a koala eating a eucalypt tree on the moon, [13:53] idea for grub 2 spalshscreen lol [14:05] gnomefreak: this is worse then on release day [14:06] eagles0513875: it only get worse. i can end it but that would be bad (at leat my way) [14:07] ya you think my openssh issue could be related to an upgrade problem? [14:07] bluekuja: with some luck y. [14:07] morning asac [14:08] asac, k, gonna ping you late this evening/night [14:08] asac: you use ssh much [14:09] eagles0513875: everything is related to upgrade until you find out different. just assume upgrade broke it :) [14:09] hi eagles0513875 [14:09] ya it probably did [14:09] not sure if that question calls for work [14:10] gonna purge openssh and reinstall and see if that fixes it [14:10] i use ssh just for some stuff [14:10] asac: cuz im trying to ssh to my linux box upstairs from my mac and i upgraded from jaunty to karmic yesterday and for some reason it doesnt want to accept my password when i know its correct [14:10] oh hell blame apple [14:10] haha [14:11] it was working yesterday before the upgrade fyi so this isnt apple this time [14:11] eagles0513875: usually should work. your ssh daemon might be set to "no password" mode [14:11] tried no password [14:11] eagles0513875: ssh -v hostname -lusername [14:11] what do you get? [14:11] still pops up again asking for it [14:12] add an authorized key thats better than password anyway [14:12] i did then it asks for password [14:12] it did yesterday when i tried it [14:13] brb gonna purge openssh and reinstall [14:13] ssh -v [14:13] that might give a hint [14:17] its open ssh 5.1 this is the server im running on the linux box upstairs [14:17] gnomefreak: the links to the isos here are broken https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-June/000578.html [14:18] asac: version is same on this laptop as well [14:20] blarg :( its a bug in the server [14:20] eagles0513875: hold on they may just be being updated with a3 [14:20] ok [14:20] i think a reinstall is in order the upgrade broke [14:20] eagles0513875: they were updated to a3 [14:20] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-3/ [14:20] your looking at something that was writen a month ago [14:21] ya [14:21] isnt that ubuntu though [14:22] eagles0513875: but if you read the links they give they say "alpha-2" those links are no longer valid since they updated the seervers to use a3 [14:22] you will get it in email (assuming you are on that list) [14:23] ahhh gotcha [14:23] eagles0513875: try on max ssh localhost [14:23] try the same on ubuntu [14:23] this should show you if ther eis a general problem or a mac-linux issue [14:24] s/on max/on mac/ [14:24] brb gonna run upstairs [14:26] seems like a mac issue [14:26] i think [14:26] ssh local host on mac gets teh connection refused on kubuntu it works when i run ssh localhost [14:28] asac: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/398213 is there a work around i have someone bugging me about it [14:28] Ubuntu bug 398213 in gnash "package mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Medium,In progress] [14:28] its the update-alrternatives bug [14:30] * gnomefreak thinks iddo should not even be thinking of installing karmic if he cant find the installer [14:30] hehe i cant either for kubuntu that link u gave me gnomefreak is for ubuntu [14:31] eagles0513875: replace work ubuntu with kubuntu [14:31] ahh [14:33] tried that gnomefreak said the page cant be found so they must be updating it or something [14:34] eagles0513875: IIRC kubntu works on thier own isos and cj... pushes [14:34] but if kubuntu guys are not done link wont work [14:34] ya doesnt look like they are done yet [14:35] that is my guess [14:38] gnomefreak: it normally gets posted on the website wether it is kubuntu or ubuntu right [14:39] eagles0513875: the wiki might have it but most of times the links are thier just not working due to lack of iso on server [14:39] well no links on wiki yet so ill just wait it out [14:40] eagles0513875: use daily than [14:41] !daily [14:41] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [14:41] gnomefreak: whats the difference between the 2 links the 2nd one is a live cd and first isnt? [14:41] may have to change ubuntu to kubuntu but i dont know when tiers are posted [14:41] eagles0513875: right [14:41] thiers [14:42] seems like kubuntu daily doesnt work either its not finding the page [14:42] nm found it [14:52] its a mac lin issue [14:59] i still cant find a backup-manager that compresses the files/diffs after backing up [14:59] i have abug in for deja-dup but it will be a while before that happens most likely [15:00] haha ssh form mac to lin works operator error replace operator [15:33] ok im gone for a while [15:39] needs-packaging 1748 pfff [15:46] hi fta [15:47] fta, are you going to link up and enable flash in your builds or just turn it on when upstream does? [15:47] for chromium I mean [15:48] jcastro, http://identi.ca/notice/6796569 [15:49] ah, thanks! [15:49] jcastro, i discussed this topic with upstream, they don't recommend it for massive deployment, it makes gmail slower [15:49] i mean, --enable-plugins [15:50] jcastro, ^^, so i provide hooks to do it, that file or an env var for those who are not root [15:50] ah ok, I was just wondering if you were discussing it with upstream [15:52] jcastro, i do, i discuss with them almost every day, and i also the 1st to implement most of their new stuff, like the sandbox [15:52] \o/ [15:53] I see you commenting on bugs and stuff too [15:53] I sent them a mail when I was at guadec [15:53] it's getting quite good! [15:53] jcastro, yep, i'm bug control there now [15:54] jcastro, and author, but that's limited to patches making my life easier for the packaging [15:54] heh [15:55] after flash the only thing I'm missing is gears, then I'll be happy [15:55] we're currently working on system libs for linux [15:55] but prism/gears works for me for now [15:56] there probably won't be gears for chromium.. hold on, there's a bug for that [15:56] I couldn't find a bug [15:56] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17443 [15:57] * jcastro stars [15:57] :) [15:57] ah I see, so they are skipping it [15:57] that is fine too since I guess gmail will use html5 at some point [15:58] * asac thinks this upgrade is a good time to keep ffox 35 open to check if ubufox properly suggests a restarte [15:58] ok off to debconf, ttyl, thanks for the info [15:58] jcastro: good luck for your travel/flight [15:58] thanks! [15:58] its hot in extremadura ;) [15:59] which translated from latin means (yes, mine is rusty, so could be differnt): extremely hard ;) [16:02] almost french, extreme + dur [16:12] asac, lol, the adm64 ppa queue went down to 0 only between 17:50 and 18:20 today [16:23] thought our builds would be in at that time so it shouldnt be 0 ;) [16:47] asac: r u upgrading to alpha3? [16:51] e-jat: i am running karmic since alpha1 [16:52] just upgrading after a few days away from this system [16:52] * e-jat seeking for nearest mirror which have sync the alpha3 :) [16:52] i have picked my mirror once based on how up to date it was and how close it was [16:53] and i never looked back [16:53] its much snappier than archive.ubuntu.com [16:53] and only lags like 1-4 hours behind (full archive) [16:53] asac: u use archive.ubuntu.com ? [16:53] i did [16:53] ok thanks .. let me try that .. [16:53] if you develop stuff you often dont want to wait another few hours [16:53] it has good bandwidth, but not as good as the mirror i am using [16:54] and i dont use the primary mirror for "de" country. that one lacks behind quite a few days [16:54] yeah [16:55] asac: but sometime if major dist upgrade .. ill do it at office since it host the mirror [16:56] or am i already in alpha3 ? theres no update for me at all :( [16:56] even i use archive.ubuntu.com [16:57] heh [16:57] most likely [16:57] if you run karmic you probably are running it for a few days [16:59] hmm [17:07] k .. hopefully to upgrade my laptop to alpha3 a.s.a.p :0 [17:07] it amazes me how many people are complaining about multisearch in a development release [17:31] asac, my new ia32-libs is no better than the previous one. npviewer.bin crashes [17:32] micahg: heh. thats normal [17:32] micahg: i will eventually reply and try to address the concerns raised [17:32] fta: sigh [17:33] micahg: i used the multisearch tag [17:33] micahg: maybe do that too if you get new ones (or merge them into existing ones) [17:33] i would like to try to keep invidivual aspects separate though [17:33] otherwise we will end up with an unusable mega-bug [18:46] asac, any idea? === micahg1 is now known as micahg [19:18] fta: i have to install it first. you have a link to .deb? [19:19] asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/staging/+files/ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu7~fta3_amd64.deb [19:41] hmm. didnt i fix the lsb-base linkae problem at some point [20:08] asac: does apport use firefox exclusively or can it use any browser? [20:08] micahg: i think it can use any browser [20:09] ok, pitti's comment in 401055 suggests that it only uses FF, shouldn't it point to x-www-browser? [20:09] or call that? [20:10] oops [20:10] bug 401055 [20:10] Launchpad bug 401055 in firefox "Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox-3.5' received an X Window System error (BadWindow)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401055 [20:10] well. could be that other browsers dont provide all the feature required [20:10] micahg: i have a band-aid for that [20:10] didnt i comment on it?` [20:10] maybe [20:10] I might now have gotten the e-mail yet [20:11] *not [20:12] micahg: my email was before pittis [20:12] oh [21:16] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29429478/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-lpia.firefox-3.5_3.5.2~hg20090723r26117%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz === ripps_ is now known as ripps [21:36] asac, i386 438 builds waiting in queue [21:37] bummer [21:37] file a bug ;) [21:37] hi all [21:37] hey rick ;) ... welcome back from the solitude [21:38] its rare that our channel is completely empty nowadays ;) [21:38] :) [21:40] for some reason, it's even getting popular [21:40] maybe the -daily effect.. [21:40] ;) [21:41] also firefox-3.5 is out effect gave us a few more [21:41] grr, i need a ia32-libs-dbg [21:42] what would that be, 5GB source package? :P [21:42] jdstrand: could you copy the xul 1.9.1 and ffox 3.5.1 to karmic now that alpha is out? [21:42] jdstrand: oh sorry. confused. 1.9 and 3.0 ;) [21:43] jdstrand: firefox-3.0 - 3.0.12+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 xulrunner-1.9 - 1.9.0.12+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [21:43] jdstrand: thanks. i am off [21:43] will lurk check in 2-3h before going to bed [21:55] do we have to repackage flashplugin-nonfree if a new version comes out from adobe? [21:55] I guess that's a silly qeustion [21:59] hey guys [21:59] micahg: well no [21:59] just fix the md5 hash on it [21:59] to match the one on the adobe website [22:00] BUGabundo: it's a silly question because we have to bump the version anyways [22:00] right === Quintasan_ is now known as ricspencer3 [22:39] micahg: when release comes out we update the url used to download it and the md5/sha1 sums [22:39] so yeah [22:39] but we use url from partner repo because thats more reliably [22:39] ok, I'm going to file a security vulnerability against the flash package for the new adobe exploit [22:40] yeah [22:40] asac: done [22:40] jdstrand: gratias [22:40] np [22:42] asac: I want my FF Search back :( [22:43] BUGabundo: disable the addon ;) [22:43] :\ [22:43] I don't like co-search [22:43] don't have images link [22:43] asac: what I was wondering before is if apport should use the system browser vs firefox %url% [22:43] micahg: i think it does [22:43] I actually have a bug for this [22:43] i think what pitti said ws more an example [22:44] at least with xfce [22:44] if not then i agree ;) [22:44] ok [22:44] :) [22:44] becuase right now it uses ff3 instead of 3,5 [22:44] micahg: have you update x-www-browser? [22:44] (alternative)? [22:44] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2009-03-29 00:43 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/firefox-3.1 [22:45] 3.1 is old isnt it? [22:45] yep [22:45] it's a broken symlink [22:45] back frmo beta jaunty [22:46] hmm. then fix that [22:46] maybe it helps ;) [22:46] isn't that package provided? [22:46] why not xopen URL? [22:46] the package yes, but the link? [22:46] not sure [22:46] I didn't make it :) [22:46] then again U1 is having a war with bugs on that [22:49] * micahg is testing [22:50] still launched firefox 3 :) [22:50] maybe I have to restart apport [22:51] micahg: what does alternatives say ? [22:51] maybe gnome-open? [22:51] i think thats the one it uses. yeas [22:51] asac: errr gnome (and xfce) specific :( [22:51] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2009-05-03 10:32 gnome-www-browser -> /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko [22:52] asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=12351 [22:52] gnome-open? [22:52] don't have it [22:52] I'm using xfce [22:53] hmm. file a bug against apport then [22:53] doesnt xfce ship gnome-open? [22:53] bug 350784 [22:53] Launchpad bug 350784 in apport "apport not using prefered system browser in XFCE" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350784 [22:54] incomplete ;) [22:54] Ah, you are using XFCE. Honestly I don't know where XFCE stores its preferred browser setting. If someone finds out, I'm happy to add that to apport. [22:55] yeah [22:55] guess I dropped the ball :) [22:55] hehe [22:55] micahg: don't worry [22:55] i thought xfce has its own XXX-open wrapper [22:55] asac uses even less comon stuff [22:55] that is then checking whatever is configured [22:56] * asac uses gnome :) [22:56] back again? [22:56] werent you using a ligth WM ? [22:56] nah. ;) [22:56] i like openbox ;) [22:57] * Twigathy likes ratpoison on low-res screens and xfce with almost everything disabled on high-res ones :) [22:57] xfce uses metacity? [22:57] ratpoison is great - it's like screen for X >_< [22:57] I...don't have a metacity instance running :o [22:57] * Twigathy wonders what makes the wallpaper on his desktop appear [22:58] compiz? [22:58] nope... [22:59] xfdesktop maybe? [23:02] $ ps aux | grep ssh | grep -c defunct [23:02] 66 [23:02] :( [23:03] whats going on there? [23:03] 66 defunct? [23:03] sounds like a bad state ;) [23:04] hey fta [23:04] on the server, each session leaves a zombie behind [23:07] i can reproduce [23:18] when did that start? [23:20] noticed that several days ago [23:20] but i had to reboot the server since, for a kernel update, and it's still there [23:22] i386 413 builds waiting in queue [23:24] http://climenole.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/linus-torvald-quote-of-the-day/ [23:28] fta: coming from a guy that says : "code in C or don't code at all" [23:28] i could say that too [23:29] code in C/perl/shell or don't code at all [23:31] lol, from the same blog: http://climenole.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/firefox-3-5-ubuntu-whats-new-and-how-to-get-it/ [23:32] fta: but linus said that about kernel coding [23:32] seem a nice blog for me to add [23:33] BUGabundo, i could say that about anything [23:34] but you aren't Linus !!!!! [23:34] that's why i used "could" in both of my sentences [23:35] when I try to install firefox 3.5 (freshly downlowded) on jaunty, I've taped "$sh run-mozilla.sh", I've got the error "run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute" (the same error as root). So what's the problem ? [23:35] 1st. dont start ffox as root :) [23:36] 2nd. why do you run run-mozilla.sh? [23:36] slash_network: ? [23:36] why not use firefox-3.5 aka /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 [23:37] 1: thx for the information :) [23:37] 2: I've tryed the commande above to install ff [23:37] slash_network: when you have it on the repos and PPAs? [23:37] slash_network: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support [23:37] try that [23:37] then run firefox-3.5 [23:37] ;) [23:38] okey, thank you very much :-D [23:38] np [23:40] grrr [23:40] ia32 libs is annoying now ,) [23:40] didnt i fix nspluginwrapper at some point to link against upstream libs? [23:40] what happened to that [23:40] or is this a dejavu? [23:42] oh [23:42] i didnt upload it as it seems [23:42] asac, if you update nspluginwrapper, plz add a -dbg [23:42] whats going on ;) [23:42] heh. well let me first see if the new nspluginwrapper kills the segfault [23:42] or rather error [23:43] hmm. i think i remember that it didnt help, which is why i probably dropped the ball on uploading [23:43] fta: whts wrong with -dbgsym? [23:43] we usually have no security updates [23:43] so -dbgsym should be ok [23:45] is there one? [23:45] fta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison nspluginwrapper-dbgsym [23:45] fta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison nspluginwrapper-dbg [23:45] fta@cube:~ $ [23:46] fta: dbgsym packages are not in the archive [23:46] they are on ddebs.ubuntu.com [23:46] deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic main universe [23:46] so what? [23:46] fta@cube:~ $ apt-cache madison scim-bridge-agent-dbgsym [23:46] scim-bridge-agent-dbgsym | 0.4.16-2ubuntu2 | http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages [23:47] there's none [23:47] * BUGabundo hates how blueprints changes look on email [23:47] I can never tell what changed [23:47] so it is not good [23:48] same here, i asked for a diff once [23:48] and? [23:48] wontfix? [23:48] they sent me to hell [23:48] or something [23:49] brb [23:50] humm [23:50] well now its OS [23:50] well, not quite brb [23:50] OOS [23:50] grr [23:50] OSS [23:50] you can make a diff [23:51] if you find the time [23:51] give me my ctrl alt backspace back, the magic key just do a kernel panic [23:51] does [23:52] now fsck on my disks [23:52] ahah [23:54] 00:46 < fta> scim-bridge-agent-dbgsym | 0.4.16-2ubuntu2 | http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages [23:54] well, i had a look at the code, it's cryptic to me, bits of everything everywhere [23:54] 00:47 < asac> thats odd then [23:54] 00:48 < asac> not sure if we can produce 32-bit dbg symbols during 64 build [23:54] 00:49 < asac> maybe two dh_strip runs [23:54] 00:49 < asac> sounds ugly === asac_ is now known as asac [23:54] BUGabundo, ^^ [23:56] I read it fta2 [23:56] seems like asac likes to talk to him self! [23:57] just meant it was for you, not for asac [23:57] (11:54:03 PM) fta2: well, i had a look at the code, it's cryptic to me, bits of everything everywhere [23:57] I know [23:57] I'm blond, not stupid [23:57] lol [23:57] lol [23:58] fta2: want I _meant_ to say is that asac talks to himself, when he losses connection [23:59] so maybe be I'm not the only blond around here???? [23:59] it needs a lot of sun for me to become blond ;)