[00:00] <jchamm1> snarkster: Maybe?
[00:00] <guestadmin> mr_steve: Huh, I was just there 5 min ago System>Preferences>Startup Applicions... but now the "Startup Applications is no longer there???
[00:00] <delly> podginater: the egg.
[00:00] <monkey_d_luffy> What software can I use to import a CSV file and produce a gradient coutour surface chart?
[00:00] <sketchyd_> akufen - just tried apt-get -f install and still didnt work - same error
[00:00] <podginater> ok thanks
[00:00] <DasEi> Kingsy101: nick me when back
[00:00] <jchamm1> monkey_d_luffy: Maybe octave?
[00:00] <Alvinware> delly, can i install windows vista in wine?
[00:00] <delly> podginater: Unless its a analogy
[00:00] <CosmiChaos> ahoi
[00:00] <lstarnes> Alvinware: you don't install windows itself in wine
[00:00] <snarkster> ive setup samba on 9.04 and created a share. I goto to network in nautilus and get an error "Failed to retrieve share list" but there are shares on other machines as well..
[00:00] <delly> Alvinware: you can install Windows software in wine and hope it works :P
[00:00] <snarkster> shouldnt i be able to see my own shares?
[00:01] <DasEi> !virtualisation | Alvinware
[00:01] <rootlinuxusr> Snarkster Do you have a firewall installed?
[00:01] <delly> Alvinware: That includes viruses
[00:01] <snarkster> nope
[00:01] <jason__> How can I start an application from the command line in GNOME so that it starts minimized?  wmctrl can not do it.
[00:01] <Grizmawe> Alvinware: wine is used to run windows programs, not the OS itself. You can get vmware server for free though taht will run windows
[00:01] <arand> Alvinware: no, wine is a compability layer for applications, not for windows itself, you'd need a virtual amchine for that...
[00:01] <snarkster> in kde is does suggest that maybe a firewall is setup
[00:01] <mr_steve> guestadmin: well that's truly weird then
[00:01] <guestadmin> mr_steve this is weird..... you helped me accidentally discover another weird problem...sigh ;) lol
[00:01] <Kingsy101> DasEi - hmm am I being stupid here, how do I get into a terminal without booting into ubuntu ?
[00:02] <rootlinuxusr> if so, you should probably enable the ports for samba - 137-139, 445
[00:02] <snarkster> unless 9.04 comes with a firewall already configured.
[00:02] <DasEi> Alvinware: better use virtualbox, as you can do images from OS'es free, vmware only has a trial on generating, though player is free
[00:02] <mr_steve> guestadmin: I've never run in to that before, although I have lost all the menus before
[00:02] <snarkster> i think its my freaking router.
[00:02] <snarkster> stupide motorola pos
[00:02] <DasEi> Kingsy101: why won't you boot ?
[00:03] <guestadmin> mr_steve:always a new adventure I guess, Im currently checking the boards for some history ;)
[00:03] <arand> Kingsy101: Start another linux distro? When you have a terminal form an ubuntu install, you are per definition running ubuntu ;)
[00:03] <Alvinware> delly, Unix/Linux can't be hacked?
[00:03] <delly> Anyone got any experience with downgrading from Ext4 to Ext3?
[00:03] <DasEi> Kingsy101: ah now I get you, keyboard isn't working; have you got al live cd ?
[00:03] <Kingsy101> I am trying recovery mode now
[00:04] <delly> Alvinware: it can like anything else. Its just harder when the OS is not full of blatant known holes
[00:04] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok I am in grun
[00:04] <delly> Alvinware: And a proper security structure is in place
[00:04] <Kingsy101> grub
[00:04] <gareim> small question here: im on 9.04 with ext3. when 9.10 comes out and i upgrade, will it automatically make me ext4?
[00:04] <jfaosdp> someone has installed ubuntu in his Mac ?
[00:04] <Kingsy101> do I need to go into a root prompt ? or fix xserver? or what?
[00:04] <plaguehiv> if i want to install Compiz it is just to run "sudo aptitude install compiz" right?
[00:04] <DasEi> Kingsy101: try root prompt
[00:04] <Kingsy101> ok
[00:05] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok I am there
[00:05] <arand> gareim: no, you'd have to do that manually, and it is not complete  even then I've heard.
[00:05] <Alvinware> delly, so does that mean when i chat with a hacker, he may successfully hacked in my system?
[00:05] <Akufen> sketchyd_ it seems you need to try it multiple times, and there's another solution further down the page
[00:05] <delly> gareim: Nope <.<
[00:05] <DasEi> gareim : you can turn ext3 to ext4 any time, but from that on only futuure data will be written in ext4, works also on 9.04
[00:06] <gareim> arand: thanks for the response. ill do it manually when 9.10 comes out then... i been hearing theres stuff wrong with it right now
[00:06] <gareim> thanks for the replies guys
[00:06] <DasEi> Kingsy101: does keyboard work ?
[00:06] <Kingsy101> DasEi - yep
[00:06] <delly> Alvinware: Only if he knows how, just like about anything else. How hard it is for a pro hacker to get is, thats easy for the hacker since we are talking a pro. BUT the OS itself is harder to hack the Windows, and thats a bloody good point to have in the back of your head.
[00:06] <arand> gareim: so 9.10 seems to be very much a "fresh install" release, what with grub2 ext4 and all...
[00:06] <legend2440> sketchyd_: command is actually    sudo apt-get -f install
[00:06] <Kingsy101> DasEi - can I pm you it would be easier ?
[00:06] <DasEi> Kingsy101: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup
[00:07] <YaManicKill> can someone give me the default startup applications in a vanilla ubuntu gnome installation? cause i managed to delete them all
[00:07] <sketchyd_> akufen - yeah, thats what im doing
[00:07] <DasEi> Kingsy101: no need, short way
[00:07] <DasEi> Kingsy101: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:07] <guestadmin> Anyone know how to restore a missing "Startup Applications" tab from my System>Preferences Tab, It just disappeared...sigh ;)
[00:07] <Kingsy101> DasEi - its just I am not really sure about making a backup of that file, I edited that for a reason you see
[00:07] <DasEi> Kingsy101: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup
[00:07] <arand> gareim: Yea, I've heard there are pretty rough changes atm, I'm running it on one coputer but I haven't pushed in the latest big changes yet...
[00:08] <Akufen> sketchyd_ you're root right? or using sudo?
[00:08] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok 1 sec
[00:08] <gareim> arand: wait, so does that mean that if I want some of the benefits of 9.10 (faster boot time), i might as well do a fresh install?
[00:08] <Alvinware> delly, ext4 is stable, not beta?
[00:08] <sketchyd_> yeah, using sudo
[00:08] <sketchyd_> akufen - ive tried running it a few times, and no dice
[00:08] <legend2440> sketchyd_: you on jaunty? what were you installing when it broke?
[00:08] <Raydiation> why doesnt nautilus restart itself after ive killed it?
[00:08] <mr_steve> guestadmin: thinking about it, it just occurred to me you can try right clicking on the menu and choosing "Edit Menus"
[00:08] <Raydiation> i still see no desktop
[00:09] <sketchyd_> mysql
[00:09] <delly> Alvinware: it is quite stable, but not debian stable stable. There are random files going missing once in a while, so its stable as in 0.8 :P
[00:09] <legend2440> sketchyd_: you on jaunty?
[00:09] <arand> gareim: It is probably fully possible to do the upgrade and conversion ext3-ext4 etc. but it seems like there will be a good deal of manaul work involed if you'd want all the benefits...
[00:09] <sketchyd_> im on jaunty, trying to re-install mysql
[00:09] <Alvinware> triiiiiiplee mooooonsteeeer kills!
[00:09] <mr_steve> guestadmin: that should give you a list of enabled and disabled menu items. If Startup Applications doesn't show up in that list, however, I'm at a loss
[00:09] <delly> Alvinware: i am considering downgrading my root FS in case something randomly disturbing needed files go missing <.<
[00:09] <guestadmin> mr_steve, ok giving it  a try
[00:10] <vr_mex> after doing sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart i got Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key so how do i generate those system wide keys?
[00:10] <gareim> arand: i think i'll manually upgrade then... mainly because i lost my flash drive so i cant make a live usb. =p
[00:10] <YaManicKill> can someone give me the default startup applications in a vanilla ubuntu gnome installation? cause i managed to delete them all
[00:10] <Alvinware> delly, ext4 for debian is stable, but not for ubuntu?
[00:11] <blognewb> i think i got blindsided. I just purchased a VPSLink account then i saw http://corenetworks.net/dedicated/discount/
[00:11] <gareim> hey, why is it that on windows, open office could do .docx files, but not i dont see an option on ubuntu??
[00:11] <delly> Alvinware: Ext4 is close to stable but not stable. Debian is the distro that is the definition of stable, going by word.
[00:12] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok thats done.. is there a command to re-start ? I guess thats the next step ?
[00:12] <delly> Alvinware: with the sole catch of Sidux existsing(debian unstable), which is a testing distro for people bleeding for bleeding edge :P
[00:12] <Jared555> hello, is it normal for apt-get to return the progress of downloads like Kilobytes of Megabytes completed?
[00:12] <Jared555> http://jared555.com/screenshot/snapshot1.png
[00:12] <DasEi> Kingsy101: you ran both commands ?
[00:12] <Kingsy101> DasEi - yup
[00:12] <guestadmin> mr_Steve: would  "Sessions" be the same thing?
[00:12] <Xchatchatdf_> Hello.
[00:12] <Jared555> actually, bytes of kilobytes/megabytes
[00:12] <DasEi> Kingsy101: so if you want the old back, just change files name; reboot (in cmd-line)
[00:12] <saif> my yahoo account won connect in pidgin !!
[00:12] <metbsd> debian is always outdated
[00:12] <saif> both of them
[00:13] <Kingsy101> DasEi - huh ? what do you mean ?
[00:13] <Datz> Hi, can I remove these URL's from my sources.list ?  Are those URL's gone for good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/225200/
[00:13] <mr_steve> guestadmin: just so we're on the same page, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:13] <Kingsy101> DasEi - if I change them back wont the problem come back ?
[00:13] <guestadmin> mr_steve: ws just thinking that, 8.04 LTS
[00:13] <DasEi> Kingsy101: so if you want the old xorg.conf back, just change files name ; reboot (in cmd-line), was just mentioned for case things get worse
[00:13] <arand> YaManicKill: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2531/screenshotstartupapplic.png http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2531/screenshotstartupapplic.png that'll do?
[00:13] <Alvinware> delly, why some times, ubuntu got routine check, when i boot up my pc?
[00:13] <saif> pls help .... yahoo acoount and pidgin is not working any more
[00:14] <saif> any info`s here ??
[00:14] <Kingsy101> DasEi - yea but if I change the file names back wont the problem come back ? the mouse and keyboard wont work ?
[00:14] <Xchatchatdf_> I made an ext3 partition and i want to copy files from my current ext3 partition.
[00:14] <YaManicKill> arand: perfect, thanks :)
[00:14] <mr_steve> guestadmin: okay, in the version of Gnome 8.04 uses, I believe startup apps are configured in the sessions control panel
[00:14] <saif> :(
[00:14] <mr_steve> guestadmin: but since I don't have that version handy, I can't give you many more details :(
[00:14] <Bmw1000c> hello guys
[00:15] <DasEi> Kingsy101: as they are both not mentioned in xorg, it'll be something else; I wonder why you use framebuffer, but just restart
[00:15] <guestadmin> mr_steve thats probably the issue, I might have been in "sessions" under the tab "startup programs"
[00:15] <saif> gyachi didnt work 2
[00:15] <Bmw1000c> is there any msn client that fully support group messaging and multi location login?
[00:15] <J-_> !uxa
[00:15] <Datz>  Hi, can I remove these URL's from my sources.list ?  Are those URL's gone for good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/225200/
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> but it says that a i don 't have permission to write into it.
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> *-a
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> .
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> Anyone know to give permission to it?
[00:15] <FloodBot1> Xchatchatdf_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <crash2108_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from the CD I downloaded and burned.  I get a command line screen with "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off"
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> I am not Root.
[00:15] <sketchyd_> how can i wipe my mysql install
[00:15] <Xchatchatdf_> *how.
[00:15] <kripz> Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0
[00:16] <Kingsy101> DasEi - just re-started it still doesnt work
[00:16] <Kingsy101> DasEi - the keyboard and mouse are still not working I mean
[00:16] <bugfly> sketchyd_, have you try sudo apt-get remove mysql
[00:16] <arand> !sudo | Xchatchatdf_
[00:16] <piroko> Anyone know why after I set my fan1_output in /sys to a higher value, it returns to where it was after a second?
[00:16] <DasEi> Kingsy101: back to rootprompt
[00:16] <delly> Alvinware: Thats to check the file system quite simple to check for random errors(which are rare), it can be disabled but its just there for random reasons. Its quite usefull when its needed, or if fragmentation is starting
[00:16] <crash2108_> How can I get this thing to actually install?!  I know the CD works with the same drive on another computer.
[00:16] <guestadmin> mr_steve, seems fine now, I guess it was versio difference, than God that was all, but now Im also prepared for an upgrade. A very educational day on XChat for me indeed. thx
[00:16] <sketchyd_> bugfly - yeah - it throws an error when it tries to stop the server
[00:16] <Datz>  Hi, can I remove these URL's from my sources.list ?  Are those URL's gone for good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/225200/
[00:16] <mr_steve> guestadmin: glad I could help
[00:17] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok..
[00:17] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I am there, what now.. ?
[00:17] <DasEi> Kingsy101: apt-get install pastebinit
[00:17] <vr_mex> after doing sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart i got Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key so how do i generate those system wide keys?
[00:17] <DasEi> Kingsy101: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[00:18] <Kingsy101> pastebinit didnt install
[00:18] <delly> Alvinware: so its like condoms, its just nice have it there fixing random errors in case they ever appere or is just minor.
[00:18] <crash2108_> Anyone know?
[00:18] <piroko> I'm on a macbook pro 5 btw
[00:18] <Alvinware> delly, so, ext3 got fragmentation too, hot to fix it?
[00:18] <Alvinware> delly, i mean how?
[00:18] <Grizmawe> Datz: yes - you can remove them fine, they are just the backport entries. Also gutsy is no longer supported as of april so you might want to consider upgrading to 8.10 (hardy)
[00:19] <Datz> Grizmawe: Ok thanks.  :)
[00:19] <losher> vr_mex: the keys are usually autogenerated when you do a successfull sshd (Note the d at the end of sshd) install. Did that not happen?
[00:19] <th0r> Alvinware: linux drives don't suffer from fragmentation
[00:19] <crash2108_> Excuse me for being a bit of  a linux noob.
[00:19] <DasEi> Kingsy101:is that jaunty / 9.04 ?
[00:19] <Kingsy101> DasEi - oh I think I have it 1 sec
[00:20] <vr_mex> losher: when i did the sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd restart i got a command not found
[00:20] <delly> Alvinware: It barely happens, unless your running a server with several gigs of data going trough raid disk every day, its not going to appere. And the fragmentation is still minor.
[00:20] <Alvinware> th0r, linux drive never ever fragment?
[00:20] <piroko> Ah. Apparently I had to set fan1_manual to 1. Any reason why the fans wouldn't kick in automatically even though my laptop was getting hot?
[00:20] <Kingsy101> DasEi - naw I cant get pastebinit installed
[00:20] <th0r> Alvinware: nope....the way linux records info fragmentation isn't a problem.
[00:20] <losher> crash2108_: noobs are welcome here. Usually you just put the CD in & it boots. So I dunno. Check the md5sum on the cd?
[00:21] <DasEi> Kingsy101:ping googlecom             <<network reachable ?
[00:21] <bobbob1016> For some reason my PC has started shutting down on boot.  I started it in recovery and it seems that it is trying to fsck and then shuts down.  I did remove a drive before, but it booted fine after that.  Any ideas?
[00:21] <th0r> Alvinware: there is no 'defrag' in linux
[00:21] <Almtesh> Hi!
[00:21] <Almtesh> Good…
[00:21] <DasEi> Kingsy101 ping googlecom             <<network reachable ?
[00:21] <delly> th0r, Alvinware: it does have fragment, but it does not suffer from it in contrast to Windows XP where it slowly earts your system alive
[00:21] <losher> vr_mex: then you don't have sshd installed. Do you understand the difference between ssh and sshd? Let me know if not...
[00:21] <Almtesh> th0r no defrag on linux.
[00:21] <arand> Alvinware: they do, but not to any great extent, normally "normal users" do not need to care about it.
[00:21] <Almtesh> th0r but why.
[00:21] <bobbob1016> DasEi: "ping google.com"
[00:21] <Grizmawe> vr_mex: try doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[00:21] <Almtesh> th0r It might be useful.
[00:21] <Kingsy101> DasEi - it says unknown host
[00:21] <bobbob1016> DasEi: Without quotes
[00:21] <delly> th0r, Almtesh: Ext4 got defrag
[00:21] <crash2108_> losher, I booted the CD up in the same CD drive just connected to a different computer.  The drive and CD are good.  I don't know what's up.  I guess it can't handle a fresh computer.
[00:22] <th0r> Almtesh: what do you mean why...the use a different way of organizing info on the drive, so there is no defrag
[00:22] <vr_mex> losher: i do have sshd installed i do which sshd and get /usr/sbin/sshd
[00:22] <bobbob1016> sorry, then Kingsy101: "ping google.com" without quotes, try www.google.com too
[00:22] <arand> !defrag
[00:22] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:22] <th0r> thanks arand
[00:22] <Almtesh> Ah, you're speaking about ext4 delly th0r ?
[00:22] <th0r> Almtesh: ext3 and ext4....same game
[00:22] <Almtesh> Of course!
[00:23] <losher> vr_mex: If I were you, I would reinstall it, as it seems like something went wrong with your install....
[00:23] <Kingsy101> DasEi - done but the ping still doesnt work
[00:23] <delly> Almtesh, th0r: Ext3 got no defrag tools, Ext4 got one. Ext4 also got some upgrades over Ext3, but its not entirely stable.
[00:23] <piroko> delly: "Not entirely stable"? Says who?
[00:23] <gareim> should i (can i even?) run clam av across the whole filesystem? or is it enough to do my home folder?
[00:23] <vr_mex> losher: how do i reinstall do i uninstall via synaptic and the re install ?
[00:23] <losher> crash2108_: it's not unheard of. Some hardware can't boot & run Ubuntu. It's rare though. Try googling your make & model number & see if other people report an incompatibility....
[00:24] <delly> piroko: as in "server buisniss" where 1 lost file is a nightmare of doomsday :P
[00:24] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : ifconfig        <<ip assigned ?
[00:24] <piroko> delly: That's fine, but you still didn't say what makes you think it isn't stable :/
[00:24] <losher> vr_mex: yes, that would work fine. Keep an eye out for messages about generating keys when you do the reinstall...
[00:24] <Datz> Grizmawe: I have my updater set to only update when a long term release is ready.  Can I update to a longterm release yet?
[00:25] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I don't really know what we are doing now, we are a little off the point
[00:25] <vr_mex> losher: ok thanks let me try it out
[00:25] <delly> piroko: its more like nitpicking non-stable. Its more than stable enough for a normal user, but there is some minor issue that still could remain :P So basicaly its stable from a regular point of view
[00:25] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : I try to get it to network to gather more information; it's little weird, you got keyb. working on cmdline, but not on xserver
[00:26] <Grizmawe> Datz: then you should already be running 7.10 - Hardy Herron was the last LTS release. do the rest of the source lines refer to gutsy too or are they hardy?
[00:26] <delly> gareim: the home folder is enough, i highly doubt you put files anywhere else.
[00:26] <Grizmawe> vr_mex: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-July/119928.html
[00:26] <gareim> delly: thanks man. just making sure.
[00:26] <Datz> Grizmawe: I am running 8.04
[00:26] <Alvinware> delly, if i install wine, windows virus may be able to infect my pc, and cause problems?
[00:26] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I am starting to get really annoyed with it, all I wanted to do was get the resolution a little higher and ALL of this is happening
[00:26] <pik}> is there any way to fix so links in pidgin opens in firefox 3.5 and not the old version of firefox?
[00:27] <Kingsy101> the cdrom isnt even ejecting on it...
[00:27] <th0r> Alvinware: viruses could only infect the wine install, they wouldn't get into the linux os itself
[00:27] <dreamy> why is hyperz making my card decrease perfomance instead of boosting ? i got a radeon 7000
[00:27] <piroko> delly: I meant, give me your source for this info
[00:27] <crash2108_> losher I hear I should put a floppy drive in for the install.  There's no workaround for that?
[00:27] <th0r> piroko: good question
[00:28] <losher> Alvinware: that said, I've never seen a report of wine being infected. I think because wine users don't surf from inside wine as a rule...
[00:28] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : then just delete content of the actual xorg.conf and restart with blank one
[00:28] <Datz> Grizmawe: I guess those URL's should have been removed when I updated to 8.04 from 7.10
[00:28] <Grizmawe> Datz: sorry -my bad, 8.04 is the LTS release. In that case the gutsy lines you pasted must be leftovers. Can be safely removed. Make a backup of your sources file if you wish first
[00:28] <losher> crash2108_: I've never heard of that. You got that from google?
[00:28] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:28] <Alvinware> th0r, so, it wouldn't cause any problem at all?
[00:28] <crash2108_> Googled and forum threads come up.
[00:28] <Guest71603> hi, looking for a good program that could erase temporary internet files, cookies and things who slows down the computer, used CG-Cleaner for windows XP but what free program do you folks recommend for ubuntu :O
[00:28] <jfaosdp> how many rpm's do you advise me for an iMac in ubuntu ? :P
[00:29] <delly> Alvinware: only if you run the viruses. Aka running browser from wine, then doing all apps there, etc. And still you could remove the viruses acces from everything outside the wine folder in case you got a strike of paranoia :P
[00:29] <delly> piroko: Mainly a few sysadmin i have been talking to, its just nitpicking anyway......
[00:29] <Datz> Grizmawe: Ok, thanks.  Now if I could only find those URL's in sources.list
[00:29] <th0r> Alvinware: the worst case it would infect the wine install, you would have to reinstall wine. But as losher said...if you use wine you still do your web browsing in linux so windows viruses aaren't a problem
[00:29] <vr_mex> Grizmawe: I would like to have a passphrase bu in the link you posted says: Do not encrypt the private
[00:29] <vr_mex> key with a passphrase -- just hit <Enter> at the passphrase prompt. why?
[00:29] <arand> th0r: actually, since wine has write and read access to your whole home directory (and all other dirs you have rw to) quite nasty things _can_ happen, I've heard about one that dumped .EXE files all over these directories... not directly harmful but annoying and a bugger to clean up afterwards.
[00:30] <Guest71603> ﻿hi, looking for a good program that could erase temporary internet files, cookies and things who slows down the computer, used CG-Cleaner for windows XP but what free program do you folks recommend for ubuntu :O
[00:30] <th0r> arand: yeah....it would be a mess, but it wouldn't do any permanent damage
[00:30] <pik}> is there any way to fix so links in pidgin opens in firefox 3.5 and not the old version of firefox?
[00:30] <losher> crash2108_: Normally you don't need a floppy. If the PTB say you need one for your particular hardware as a workaround for a bug, then who am I to say different?
[00:31] <gareim> pik}: maybe try to make 3.5 your default?
[00:31] <arand> th0r: Unless you consider completely thrashing your login with all your configurations "permanent" no.
[00:31] <piroko> delly: So in other words you have nothing but the ramblings of someone who probably doesn't even code ;)
[00:31] <DasEi> pik}: you can set it in buudylist >tools > preferences
[00:32] <Davey_> Hardy is still under LTS, right?
[00:32] <DasEi> Davey_: yes
[00:32] <Alvinware> delly, clamav got both the linux, and windows viruses databases?
[00:32] <th0r> arand: it is highly doubtful it could do all that...it would have to be smart enough to address drive Z and then navigate to your home directory
[00:32] <crash2108_> I don't know what a PTB is, losher...  I'm still getting "/bin/sh: Can’t access tty; job control turned off" despite all these workarounds.
[00:32] <DasEi> !LTS | Davey_
[00:32] <vr_mex> Can system wide rsa and dsa keys be generated to use a passphrase? if not why?
[00:32] <losher> vr_mex: the *host* key just identifies the server. It's a safety feature to alert you in case someone replaces the server with a counterfeit machine. It's different to the *session* keys you use to login. You don't want a passphrase for the host key.
[00:33] <qkgus> hey all. apparently i have a "unknown chipset". can anyone help me make it.. "known"?
[00:33] <sharif> i have problem with Display Could not apply the selected configuration - Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist, Please Help
[00:33] <Davey_> http://pastebin.com/m754b10db <-- having this problem with upgrading :/
[00:33] <Davey_> (with Hardy)
[00:33] <th0r> arand: unless it was a programming work of art any damage would be limited to ~/.wine/drive_c and folders beneath it.
[00:33] <Kingsy101> ok I have a really weird issue here, my ubuntu PC is having some really weird problems, the cd-rom light is staying on along with the HD light .. it boots up fine but the resolution is wrong and the mouse and keyboard don't work outside of grub
[00:33] <Kingsy101> anyone got an idea ?
[00:33] <pik}> DasEi: oh sorry embarrassing, missed that in settings ;)
[00:33] <losher> crash2108_: PTB == powers that be i.e. people who know more about this than you or I. I'm sorry, but it sounds like you have a hardware problem which I can't solve for you...
[00:33] <arand> th0r: well undoubtedly they already do: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[00:33] <vr_mex> losher: Aaahhhh so that is why!!! :-)
[00:34] <DasEi> pik}: np
[00:34] <losher> vr_mex: the beginnings of wisdom, grasshopper :-)
[00:34] <arand> th0r: I guess since wine willingly shows it all those drives it just writes to everything it can get it's hands on, not that hard.
[00:34] <Kingsy101> DasEi - you got any other ideas about fixing this mouse and keyboard fault ?
[00:34] <vr_mex> losher: so then i do not need to regenerate them just leave them there alone... :-)))
[00:35] <Evelina> I want to filter the feeds in PlanetPlanet. Anyone knows how to filter out content in PlanetPlanet feed aggregator?
[00:35] <sharif> !help
[00:35] <DasEi> Kingsy101: take a look at /var/log/syslog  and kernel.log, without further info it's like a crystall ball
[00:35] <vr_mex> losher: since i moved them can you please give me the permissions they should have so that i place them back again correctly
[00:35] <th0r> arand: and all of that started when he ran some viruses he had collected using wine....god don't help dumb
[00:36] <sharif> !help i have problem with Display Could not apply the selected configuration - Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist, Please Help
[00:36] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok 1 sec
[00:36] <DasEi> Kingsy101:also your setting using framebuffer often causes trouble, jaunty's xorg is empty by default
[00:36] <Dekko> Hello everybody!
[00:36] <Kingsy101> DasEi - so perhaps reconfigure without framebuffer ?
[00:36] <losher> vr_mex: the host key is usually generated *once* when you install sshd. After that, you generally don't want it to change because if it changes, ssh will worry that it means the machine changed. It's just a security feature. Session keys for logging in are dealt with separately.
[00:37] <Alvinware> so with wine, i can get windows viruses/trojans, and pass it to other persons windows system, when sharing files with them, good, lol.
[00:37] <DasEi> Kingsy101:yes, just for the res only need the  "modes = ... " line
[00:37]  * Dekko is wondering if THIS is a BUG: I have a Geforce 9600GT graphicscard running the latest Nvidia drivers from nvidia. Having two monitors setup as separate X servers... all works NICELY except switching to a text console. That blacks out both monitors. If I use Twinview (stretch) it works.
[00:37] <losher> Alvinware: most of us don't consider the ability to pass on a virus as a good thing :-)
[00:37] <arand> th0r: Well, it was for an experimental reason. However, it does not lessen the fact that wine and viruses may be considerably harmful.
[00:37] <vr_mex> losher: since i moved them can you please give me the permissions they should have so that i place them back again correctly
[00:37] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I will just try and get the keyboard and mouse back first..
[00:38] <th0r> arand: looks like I will have to concede that one
[00:38] <firecrotch> Did anyone else just upgrade firefox 3.0 and is now getting "Assertion Failed - ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!" ?
[00:39] <th0r> arand: would be interested in knowing how those got into /usr without the root password. The files he found in ~/.local/share/applications don't surprise me...that is where wine puts the .desktop files for installed software
[00:39] <jurgs> Is there a way to mount my slave drive so that I can use unetbootin on it. Also i'm using a wubi install of xubuntu on a win98 comp
[00:39] <losher> vr_mex: my host keys are in /etc/ssh and have permissions rw for root for the private part, and rw-r-r for the public part. Does this make sense?
[00:39] <Alvinware> losher, but that's all the servers running in unix/linux do every days by passing those nasty things to windows client, and got them infected, because they don't stop it.
[00:39] <arand> th0r: what I think is that wine needs restrictive sandboxing, tightly confined to ~/wine/c_drive/
[00:39] <sharif> dose someone notice me ?
[00:40] <th0r> arand: agreed...I thought that was the default install
[00:40] <sharif> i just need help ... please
[00:40] <vr_mex> losher: shure thank you very much ! :-)
[00:40] <dis> Hello all,
[00:40] <dis> My problem is sound for the internet. The sound is coming from my USB card. I broke the sound card 6 months ago. My windows XP is working fine(audio and video). I d/l'ed adobe flash 10 and java. No success.  The video is good, but the audio is off for my browser. Any thoughts or ideas?
[00:40] <losher> sharif: loud & clear. Ask your question...
[00:41] <sharif> !help i have problem with Display Could not apply the selected configuration - Method "ApplyConfiguration" with signature "" on interface "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR" doesn't exist, Please Help
[00:41] <arand> th0r: it is not, it has full rw to everything the user has through the Z: device, which is kinda scary...
[00:41] <losher> arand: I agree. I'm surprised more people don't do that..
[00:41] <sharif> I got a display problem
[00:41] <th0r> arand: that is....I wasn't aware of that. Will have to look into limiting that 'feature'
[00:41] <sharif> losher: can you help on display problem ?
[00:42] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok well not using framebuffer didnt change anything
[00:42] <losher> sharif: sorry, I know nothing about gnome.... :-(
[00:42] <Kingsy101> DasEi - what should I look for in syslog ?
[00:42] <arand> th0r: losher: and it is not a simple procedure either >_<
[00:42] <Alvinware> losher, got winlux?
[00:42] <DasEi> Kingsy101:error ?!
[00:42] <Kingsy101> heh ok 1 sec
[00:42] <Alvinware> losher, winlux/winux?
[00:43] <FairFight> how can i see if cronjob fail's its tasks?
[00:43] <losher> Alvinware: googling it now...
[00:43] <sharif> losher: what i should do then .. Ubuntu is gnome
[00:43] <losher> sharif: try asking in #gnome. Try googling the error message. Don't give up without a fight...
[00:43] <dis> !help My problem is sound for the internet. The sound is coming from my USB card. I broke the sound card 6 months ago. My windows XP is working fine(audio and video). I d/l'ed adobe flash 10 and java. No success.  The video is good, but the audio is off for my browser. Any thoughts or ideas?
[00:44] <Kingsy101> DasEi - I don't know where to start there are thousands of lines here
[00:44] <Alvinware> losher, gnome is a x windows server? can i use kde in ubuntu, and switch between them?
[00:45] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, no ... Gnome is a Desktop Environment :)
[00:45] <crash2108_> This is such bullshit
[00:45] <dabj01> Alvinware, yes
[00:45] <Kingsy101> DasEi - if I can pastie the logs do you think you will be able to help ? if so I will just use a live CD ?
[00:45] <th0r> arand: well...now you got me spooked. I could dump wine but I need dreamweaver
[00:45] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, KDE is a Desktop Environment too ... and yes, you can switch between both freely :)
[00:45] <crash2108_> Is it a problem that my harddrive is unpartitioned (brand new), losher?
[00:45] <Alvinware> ibuclaw, How?
[00:46] <losher> Alvinware: you can use either. And there are dozens more if you don't like those...
[00:46] <DasEi> Kingsy101:could do, but what happens if you just start blank ?
[00:46] <Davey_> how can I downgrade python? if it failed to install
[00:46] <Kingsy101> DasEi - hmm I suppose I could but I have ALOT of stuff installed..
[00:46] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, logout ... and when you enter the Login Screen, you should see the Word 'Session' in the  (bottom left?) hand corner.
[00:46] <Kingsy101> what will happen to all of my files and programs ?
[00:46] <losher> crash2108_: normally, as part of an install, the installer will walk you through partitioning the drive, so no. I repeat: I believe you have a hardware incompatibilty and there may not be a workaround....
[00:47] <DasEi> Kingsy101:I speak of blank xorg
[00:47] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:47] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, select it and it will present a list of possible logins ... You only need to be concerned about KDE and Gnome options.
[00:47] <Kingsy101> DasEi - oh that sounds cool but how do i do that ?
[00:47] <sharif> losher: OK thanks
[00:47] <arand> th0r: well so far only people that have intentionally run viruses have been affected (afaik) so currently the problem might not be that big, and as long as you are selective with the apps that runs in wine I guess the safety might be satisfiable, it might become a considerable hole in the future though, if nothing is done...
[00:47] <DasEi> Kingsy101 : nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  delete every content (rootprompt)
[00:47] <karatekickz> I'm missing System -> Preferences -> Sessions  could someone help me?
[00:48] <Alvinware> ibuclaw, so, i can't change it with-out log-in/log-out?
[00:48] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[00:48] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, correct ... although you will be able to access the Gnome/KDE software in both DE's
[00:49] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:49] <Kingsy101> DasEi - what happens here btw ? you delete the contents of that file and it should boot fine ?
[00:49] <ProfOak> What's the 'best' flash plugin for Firefox? I know there are three, and Adobe always seems a little laggy.
[00:49] <cafree> Recently, Evolution stopped getting new mail and I'm not sure why.  Send/Receive is disabled.  How do I figure it out?
[00:49] <th0r> arand: agreed. If kompozer didn't crash on tables I could dump dreamweaver, but until there is a decent wysiwyg html editor I will stick with wine
[00:49] <losher> crash2108_: does windows run on your new hardware?
[00:49] <Kingsy101> DasEi - i.e it makes a new default one ?
[00:49] <ibuclaw> Alvinware, ie: you can run KTorrent in both KDE and Gnome.  But the application may look slightly different when running from different DE's
[00:49] <losher> Alvinware: winlux appears to be a news site. Was there something specific you wanted me to see there?
[00:50] <DasEi> Kingsy101 :it's empty by default, so should boot fine
[00:50] <donavan_> is there a way to do a batch rename ... like take filename1.mp3 and make it 1.mp3
[00:50] <mechtech> ktorrent is pretty killer
[00:50] <Pici> donavan_: man rename :)
[00:50] <arand> th0r: don't we all ;) myself I keep windows installs for gaming.
[00:50] <losher> donavan_: there is a rename command, but it's complex and not for beginners...
[00:50] <Alvinware> losher, no, i'm just thinking of combining linux, and windows into a new os.
[00:51] <losher> Alvinware: good luck with that....
[00:51] <SuspectZero> hey there
[00:51] <ProfOak> Alvinware: How are you going to do that?
[00:51] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:51] <SuspectZero> i installed apache2 and it starts on boot up but i dont want it to. how can i remove that from bootup?
[00:51] <mechtech> alvinware: I was just wondering the same thing...how?
[00:51] <Alvinware> linux, and windows is written in c programming language?
[00:51] <ProfOak> He's probably a leet hax0r with the MS code
[00:51] <crash2108_> I don't know, I don't have a windows CD.  I was considering just doing that because it's an HTPC and I just want to run boxee or something.
[00:52] <New> ummm hello?
[00:52] <Kingsy101> DasEi - ok I emptied the file and I am booting now
[00:52] <Kingsy101> 1 sec
[00:52] <ibuclaw> donavan_, in your example:  the answer would be: rename 's/^filename//' filename1.mp3
[00:52] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:52] <ibuclaw> donavan_, to cover a list of files: rename 's/^filename//' *
[00:52] <mechtech> alvinware:  ok, but they use different file systems, boot routines, there's the whole registry thing  etc...
[00:52] <losher> new: just ask a question...
[00:52] <jdu> Does anyone here recommend ebox?
[00:53] <New> Ummm excuse me?
[00:53] <jurgs> is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer
[00:53] <Kingsy101> DasEi - the mouse and keyboard still don't work
[00:53] <chris___> !info > gdesklets
 wants you to know: Retrieve information on a package: !info <package>
[00:53] <sharif> losher: why you think its gnome problem ?
[00:53] <New> I want to install Ubuntu....but my computer gives me error messages
[00:53] <losher> crash2108_: I'm just wondering if your hardware is faulty. Has anything run successfully on it before?
[00:53] <ramsey1> hello ppl
[00:53] <ibuclaw> donavan_, to cover a list of files in separate directories:  find /path/to/dir -type f -iname "*.mp3" | xargs rename 's/^filename//'
[00:53] <chris___> !info gdesklets
[00:53] <jdu> jurgs, does it appear with:  sudo sfdisk -l
[00:53] <New> Ummmm I need help
[00:53] <Alvinware> mechtech, include all the file system, let user choose when install.
[00:54] <Kingsy101> DasEi - any other ideas ?
[00:54] <losher> sharif: it was a guess, based on the error message: "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR". Have you googled it yet? Maybe there's a known fix?
[00:54] <donavan_> Pici and losher ... thanks I want even sure if there was a rename ... its been a while since I used the command line ... last time I renamed things with the command line I had to move the file to a new name rather than renaming it directly
[00:54] <crash2108_> No, brand new.
[00:54] <jurgs> jdu no i have tried doing that and it doesn't detect anything
[00:54] <jdu> jurgs, does the bios report it?
[00:54] <DasEi> Kingsy101 :so I have no further idea on that ,as it does on cmd-line, check your logs, are they usb or ps2 ?
[00:54] <Alvinware> mechtech, or just use the best one, ext3/4, for no fragmentation.
[00:54] <mechtech> new:  write down the errors, then type them into paste.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <New> Umummm can anyone help me?
[00:54] <Kingsy101> DasEi - they are usb
[00:55] <harjot> how i would i substitude a command like ''wine'' to redirect to something else?>
[00:55] <donavan_> ibuclaw ... thanks for the command just saved me some time ... I was breaking out the howto's and you can to the rescue
[00:55] <ProfOak> Does anyone have a preference of flash plugins for Firefox? My flash always seems to lag while full screen.
[00:55] <mechtech> new: then paste the url into here so people can see the erors and offer help
[00:55] <Alvinware> take the good of both, and match it into one.
[00:55] <ibuclaw> donavan_, no probs ... just needs a small bit of regexp knowledge, that is all ;)
[00:56] <losher> crash2108_: Then I would try a different OS, so you can (maybe) verify the hardware. Try PCBSD...
[00:56] <ProfOak> Alvinware: Your cause is valiant, but I think you're not really thinking this through.
[00:56] <jurgs> jdu not sure I can chose to boot from hard drive but it only gives me one option, I have an intel i815 mobo
[00:56] <mechtech> alvinware: why not just develop for linux?  Why the interest in combining win and lin?
[00:56] <New> Its hard to copy errors from the boot menu
[00:56] <DasEi> Kingsy101 :you might check for usbutils, and check the logs, as they were not mentioned in xorg, it#s gonna be usb
[00:56] <New> I'm not that computer saavy
[00:56] <jdu> jurgs, sometimes the bios or the jumpers may be configured in such a way that it won't tell linux it exists; does win98 see it?
[00:57] <Alvinware> profOak, look flash/java in add/remove.
[00:57] <mechtech> new:  we would need to see the error messages to offer any intelligent advice
[00:57] <New> I get Logical Block errors....what are those
[00:57] <mechtech> new: dead drive?
[00:57] <ProfOak> Alvinware: Your preference of flash plugin is add/remove?
[00:57] <New> Whats a dead drive?
[00:57] <meho_r> blist
[00:57] <sharif> losher: its a bug ..
[00:57] <donavan_> ibuclaw ... ive been working on my command line stuff but like I said last time I was really working in a command line envornment was back before the WWW was even around and you had to do everything in gopher and telnet
[00:58] <rootlinuxusr> How can I replace icons from the menu? the theme I installed changed the default ubuntu logo, and I'd love to change xchat's icon....
[00:58] <losher> sharif: well done. Is there a workaround?
[00:58] <jurgs> jdu yes, ok i did sudo sfdisk -l and it shows up as /dev/sdb1 i guess i was spelling something wrong
[00:58] <mechtech> new: a drive that has released the magic smoke...will no longer function
[00:58] <Alvinware> ProOak, or u could remove it first in firefox, then visit flash page, and got it installed again.
[00:58] <jdu> jurgs, so, yes, you can mount it then :)
[00:58] <mike> someone got problems with firefox ????
[00:58] <jurgs> jdu but how?
[00:58] <New> Ummmm I think all drives on my computer function
[00:58] <trevor_> i just installed openoffice 3.1 with ubuntu tweak and synaptic, and the splash screen still says open office 3.0 but the version is correct (3.1) how do i change that?
[00:59] <ProfOak> Alvinware: So that means you use adobe?
[00:59] <jdu> jurgs, what file system is it?  where would you like it to be mounted?
[00:59] <SuspectZero> i installed apache2 and it starts on boot up but i dont want it to. how can i remove that from bootup?
[00:59] <jdu> jurgs, does it not show up in gnome?
[00:59] <New> What drives are required for ubuntu?
[00:59] <arand> New: could be your hard drive physically going down, but try running fsck from a livecd (provided you cannot boot the normal install) to tryto fix the errors
[00:59] <New> Ummmm....Fsck....? I'm not that computer saavy
[01:00] <Spikemcc> Firefox on ubuntu hardy heron 8.04.3 LTS x64 is unstable ... 3.0.11 and 3.5.1 does the same ...
[01:00] <mechtech> new: disable your floppy drive in the bios on your computer and try again
[01:00] <jdu> SuspectZero, you can use the update-rc.d command
[01:00] <arand> New: so what is the problem you are having... is ubuntu refusing to start?
[01:00] <New> Ummmm I don't have a floppy drive....and how do I do that?
[01:00] <jurgs> jdu it is a FAT 32 and it doesn't matter where it is mounted, I'm just trying to mount it to install a fresh distro
[01:00] <Spikemcc> got an idea to repair firefox ?
[01:01] <Alvinware> Prooak, if adobe got linux version, then good, if not goto add/remove, synaptic package manager, or plugin remove, and visit any website created with flash, to get the pop up install the plugin.
[01:01] <jdu> jurgs, hmm.  so:  mount -t fat /dev/sdb1 /your/mount/point
[01:01] <Spikemcc> hey !!!
[01:01] <Alvinware> ProOak, so many way, man.
[01:01] <Spikemcc> ho !!!
[01:01] <Spikemcc> noobs !!!
[01:01] <Spikemcc> help please !!!
[01:01] <ProfOak> Alvinware: ProfOak*
[01:01] <New> The disk starts.....but when I try to install.......every drive overwrite reports a logical block
[01:02] <jurgs> ok and do you know if this will allow me to use unetbootin on it?
[01:02] <New> The only thing Ubuntu is ever able to install is the clock
[01:02] <mechtech> new: reboot the computer...during the first few seconds of booting, the computer screen will tell you what key to press to enter the bios settings...in there, you will see options for disabling your floppy drive (even though you don't have one) you will also find boot options...tell the bios not to try to boot to a floppy
[01:02] <FairFight> */30 * * * * /usr/bin/php -f /home/user/test.php - shouldnt this work out in the crontab?
[01:02] <losher> Spikemcc: less fanfare, more problem description please...
[01:02] <New> OK...I'll try
[01:02] <mechtech> ok...keep us posted
[01:03] <mechtech> new: ok...keep us posted
[01:03] <Spikemcc> losher firefox crash when open
[01:03] <RuneMaximus> I'm looking to dual boot my windows vista with ubuntu, i have vista ultimate 64 bit installed and have downloaded ubuntu 9.04 Desktop  amd64 iso about to burn to disc. i have my vista OS on a 250gb sata drive i have a 1.5tb drive for my media(games/movies/music) and a 40 gb drive that is free that i want to install ubuntu to. but i still want to be able to boot into my vista when i need to. just want to get info before i jump into ins
[01:03] <jdu> jurgs, not, sure, that's really designed for usb sticks.  Why not do an actual install?
[01:03] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know of any way that I can lock the mouse pointer in a selected window for my 3 year old niece to use Tux paint without messing with my other stuff by accident?
[01:03] <arand> losher: I want that quote in !fanfare ;)
[01:04] <losher> arand: :-)
[01:04] <Spikemcc> it crash randomly mostly
[01:04] <Some_Person> !fanfare
[01:04] <Spikemcc> but most on start
[01:04] <jdu> linuxguy2009, hmm, no.  But you could do something like start Xephyr full screen then run tuxpaint in that
[01:04] <losher> Spikemcc: which version of OS. Which version of firefox?
[01:04] <SuspectZero> jdu, anything else? is there a file i can just edit to remove apache2 from starting?
[01:04] <booksbuggy> my gnome network manager keep on showing "device is unmanaged" on the wired connection how do i fix it?
[01:04] <Spikemcc> 8.04.3 LTS x64 > firefox 3.0.11 and 3.5.1
[01:04] <Alvinware> ProfOak, Oh, Yeah, Prof., of-course i didn't think all the linux, and windows mix-up things deeply, that's why i didn't create it, and just wonder, cause game in windows more, linux for security, and got a lot of things in the middle, like more free softwares on both side, more free to configure, and so on...!
[01:05] <mechtech> runemaximus: during installation of ubuntu options will be offerd for dual boot...choose the correct drive for installing ubuntu, then tell the installer to put the GRUB loader onto the same Master boot record with Vista...voila!
[01:05] <lmiller> I want to purchase a pci wireless adapter card
[01:05] <arquebus> linuxguy2009- or you could create a user account for your neice with very low permissions
[01:05] <lmiller>  Which is more like to work with minimum hassle: a dlink, linksys or netgear wireless-g pci adapter?
[01:05] <linuxguy2009>  jdu: What is Xephyr?
[01:05] <jurgs> jdu my cd drive is busted, is there a way to install on my master drive then?
[01:05] <mechtech> lmiller:  I have had great success with linksys cards
[01:05] <jdu> SuspectZero, yes, update-rc.2 is the correct way.  but you can simply change the appropriate file name (w/ apache in it) of in /etc/rc.2/ ala the instructions in the directory
[01:05] <RuneMaximus> thanks mechtech tried to isntall osx86 previously and totaly messed things up...
[01:05] <ProfOak> Alvinware: You'd be wasting time trying to put them together. Eventually, you'd start from scratch, or give up.
[01:06] <mechtech> runemaximus: Ouch!  and no problem
[01:06] <jdu> linuxguy2009, an X server like X.org but you can run it in a window or full screen and could use it cover everything else up.
[01:06] <Spikemcc> lmiller if you want something real good and don't mind a little hassle try usb alfa 500 mw it's dangerously hot when used well
[01:06] <revlo> hi is there a command line tool that tells me that there are new packages avabile without using sudo (eg what you can put in your motd) - like the notification apllet under gnome by default
[01:06] <linuxguy2009> oh cool
[01:06] <losher> Spikemcc: the only obvious thing I see there is that x64 is known to be less stable than 32 bit. It would be a pain to downgrade. Try asking on #firefox?
[01:06] <linuxguy2009> thanks
[01:06] <booksbuggy> my gnome network manager keep on showing "device is unmanaged" on the wired connection how do i fix it?
[01:07] <linuxman410> hey is there a command you can use in terminal to tell if u are running 32 or 64 bit
[01:07] <revlo> linuxman410: uname -a should tell you
[01:07] <jdu> linuxman410, uname -a
[01:07] <linuxman410> thanks
[01:07] <barqers> can someone help me? everytime I bootup I don't get a splash screen! I've added it to /usr/lib/usplash/chrometext-splash.so, But when I add it into startupmanager, close it, and reboot, I get nothing! only text...
[01:07] <Alvinware> ProfOak, lol, wasting time for dreaming something, and not doing it, a bad thing, no for me, not every thing have to be done, it's accord to oneself judge, and life is more complicated than any thing else
[01:08] <jurgs> jdu thanks for the help, i will try this on another day
[01:08] <lmiller> mechtech: thanks
[01:08] <jdu> jurgs, ok, sorry if I could have helped more
[01:08] <FairFight> ubottu: cronjob
[01:08] <jdu> barqers, dell optiplex?
[01:09] <Alvinware> ProfOak, uwasting time heretoo, and watis uprofin?
[01:09] <mechtech> booksbuggy: try this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/279262
[01:09] <losher> Alvinware: ProfOak: getting seriously off-topic guys....
[01:09] <booksbuggy> okey
[01:09] <mechtech> lmiller:  no problem
[01:09] <sharif> losher: what do you mean workaround ?
[01:09] <jurgs> jdu your help was greatly appreciated
[01:09] <barqers> jdu: Nope, It's my own built computer
[01:09] <ProfOak> Alvinware: I wish I could reply to that... Could you please rephrase that or something?
[01:10] <losher> sharif: sometimes there is a way to avoid a bug, or a patch or setting that avoids it....
[01:10] <losher> Alvinware: ProfOak: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please if you want to continue...
[01:10] <barqers> jdu: Do you want the hardware?
[01:11] <ProfOak> losher: It's fine, I'm pretty much done with that
[01:11] <jdu> barqers, oh well, but every optiplex I have used hasn't showed the splash screen w/o a workaround, but it's sure to be a different problem.  On those, it's a matter of increasing the video buffer in the bios
[01:11] <mechtech> <--about to install win 7 to my virtualbox...woohoo
[01:11] <Alvinware> ProfOak, You're Professor in field of what?
[01:11] <jfaosdp> hi
[01:11] <ProfOak> Alvinware:pokemon, and we're done
[01:11]  * Spikemcc hit mechtech fool
[01:11] <losher> Alvinware: drop it, or move it. Or risk being bounced....
[01:11] <jfaosdp> how can i see my cpu temp ºC ? cat /proc/acpi/ ? :S
[01:11] <mattgyver> I cant connect to the cups interface from another machine on my network, i keep getting '403 forbidden'.  Could anyone help?
[01:11] <jdu> barqers, I always except hardware if people are giving it away :) but no...
[01:11] <barqers> jdu: Oh, snap. Okay, I'll give that a try. Thanks!
[01:12] <ForzaPalermo> guys quick question
[01:12] <mechtech> !ask
[01:12] <Alvinware> Losher, what's bounced? beeing bombard by none stop im?
[01:12] <lstarnes> jfaosdp: try /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[01:12] <ForzaPalermo> i have a large 2nd hdd that i want to use JUST FOR STORAGE
[01:12] <losher> Alvinware: an operator can ban you. Very easily...
[01:12] <lstarnes> jfaosdp: you could also install lm-sensors and check using the command "sensors"
[01:12] <ForzaPalermo> is ext4 the best to format it in
[01:13] <they> losher: are you an operator?
[01:13] <sharif> losher: well, not sure still checking ..
[01:13] <Alvinware> Losher, i can change my ip, and username.
[01:13] <losher> ForzaPalermo: it's not a good choice for a beginner. Stick to ext3 for another couple of releases....
[01:13]  * losher is not an operator.
[01:13] <ForzaPalermo> losher: may i ask why
[01:13] <lstarnes> Alvinware: evasion of bans results in longer, tougher bans
[01:13] <ProfOak> Alvinware: Don't make anyone dislike you, this is supposed to be a helpful chat
[01:13] <jfaosdp> lstarnes: my lm-sensors are crazy ... look http://pastebin.com/m7932b7b2  . I cant find anything into /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[01:14] <ForzaPalermo> im using ext 4 for my main operating system
[01:14] <losher> ForzaPalermo: my opinion is that it hasn't been tested enough yet...
[01:14] <ForzaPalermo> and its working great
[01:14] <losher> ForzaPalermo: that's fine. No need to change. It's just much easier to support users on ext3, because we know how it behaves...
[01:14] <Alvinware> Istarnes, how? even mac address can be change.
[01:15] <lstarnes> Alvinware: mac addresses are not relevant on the internet as a whole.  Those are only relevant for local networks
[01:15] <Spikemcc> you can change your mac on linux by command line
[01:15] <mechtech> why are you guys arguing?
[01:15] <losher> Alvinware: even if you change ip & username, if you come back talking about the same off-topic, we'll catch on. We're not *that* dumb...
[01:16] <rootlinuxusr> Is there a way to force delete a folder(System Volume Information, and RECYCLER) - even rm -rf /media/drive/* does not remove it...
[01:16] <mechtech> Spikemcc:  why did * tell you to hit me earlier?
[01:16]  * Spikemcc hit mechtech cause windows is bad for brains
[01:16] <Alvinware> losher, of-course, uallnotdumpguys, lol, me too. :-D
[01:16] <jfaosdp> lstarnes: why i have nothing into /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/  :S
[01:17] <mechtech> spikemcc:  oh...that makes sense then
[01:17] <lstarnes> jfaosdp: I don't know
[01:17] <koro> ProfOak: i use adobe but same problem (and as a bonus, it sometimes simply stops working and i have to restart firefox [i'm on x86_64])
[01:17] <koro> i didn't know there was any other option
[01:17] <Alvinware> Istarnes, How could i be banned for long?
[01:17] <ProfOak> koro: Have you tried any alternatives?
[01:17] <nerdy_kid> any one here set up a FTP server before? im having some trouble
[01:17] <Spikemcc> mechtech I don't wanna be locked in anymore, linux is too open for me so I can do almost everything
[01:18] <booksbuggy> mechtech, thanks for the help
[01:18] <lstarnes> Alvinware: operators can recognize behavioral patterns
[01:18] <koro> ProfOak: i'm not sure what would those be?
[01:18] <map7> can anyone here help me with a debian broken packages problem?
[01:18] <rootlinuxusr> nerdy_kid: Try vsftpd
[01:18] <Alvinware> Istarnes, then change behaviour.
[01:18] <mechtech> booksbuggy:  with what?  remind me please
[01:18] <koro> i remember using something else way back, but it didn't work at all
[01:18] <Alvinware> lol.
[01:18] <mechtech> Spikemcc:  I aspire to that level...still just a noob
[01:18] <lstarnes> Alvinware: it's impossible to completely avoid being detected when evading bans
[01:18] <booksbuggy> mechtech, the gnome network manager problem
[01:18] <koro> ProfOak: (some time ago there wasn't even an adobe version for 64-bit)
[01:19] <mechtech> booksbuggy:  all better then?
[01:19] <ProfOak> koro: Let me find some names. I distinctly remember having an option of 3 packages for installing flash.
[01:19] <booksbuggy> mechtech, yes
[01:19] <Alvinware> This chat room wasn't helpful, firefox 3.5 is beta, a lot of say it's not, and mix.
[01:19] <mechtech> booksbuggy:  great...glad I could help
[01:19] <Apocapus> Ok I rebooted and went to the Bios Bootup area but I couldn't find the Floppy Drive....
[01:19] <koro> ProfOak: but the alternative i had found in the ubuntu guides didn't work at all
[01:19] <koro> that was a few years ago tho
[01:19] <Apocapus> Where is the Floppy Bootup?
[01:19] <pleed___> Hi
[01:19] <lstarnes> Alvinware: firefox 3.5 has been released
[01:19] <losher> Alvinware: the ban doesn't last for long. Just long enough to discourage bad behavior
[01:19] <nerdy_kid> rootlinuxuser something messed up with the ports i think, someone here helped me for like an hour yesterday and still couldnt figure it out; need a pro lol
[01:19] <Guest62600> can you putt windeos midea player on ubuntu linux
[01:19] <Alvinware> Istarnes, look it in add/remove by yourself.
[01:19] <koro> Guest62600: no
[01:19] <nerdy_kid> Guest62600 no
[01:20] <pleed___> Is it possible to include already activated luks and lvms in the ubuntu installation process?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Guest62600: yes in Wine
[01:20] <lstarnes> !ff35 | Alvinware
[01:20] <Spikemcc> mechtech learn to install ubuntu with the minimal cd in the command line, and use applications in the command line the more you can ...
[01:20] <Guest62600> how
[01:20] <jdu> Guest30590, there are alternatives though
[01:20] <rootlinuxusr> rootlinuxusr - ahh, then Im no root. =/ xD
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Guest62600: and there are better alternatives
[01:20] <Apocapus> Ummm....can anyone help me?
[01:20] <Guest62600> i have tryd wine
[01:20] <koro> sebsebseb: then you would be running it on windows, not on ubuntu :)
[01:20] <koro> oh, wine, nevermind me
[01:20] <mechtech> apocapus:  #1 try to use the same login everytime...that way we can hopefully reflect on what the issue was and also so you can build a reputation...#2 that may have been because you disabled the floppy drt...are you still having trouble?ive...more to the poin
[01:20] <ProfOak> koro: I've found names. Swfdec SWF, Adobe Flash, Gnash SWF.
[01:20] <koro> was thinking virtualization
[01:21] <koro> ProfOak: i guess i'll try those
[01:21] <Alvinware> Istarnes, the name is not firefox?
[01:21] <koro> 'cos i'm tired of adobe
[01:21] <Spikemcc> if with that you don't have learned a lot there is a problem ...
[01:21] <Apocapus> No...I get logical block messages
[01:21] <ProfOak> Apocapus: Just ask a question, and someone may have an answer
[01:21] <koro> ProfOak: have you tryed swfdec or gnash?
[01:21] <ProfOak> koro: No, that's why I came in here. Different opinions and whatnot.
[01:21] <PROject-Emerald> Uh, I have a bit of a problem
[01:21] <Apocapus> So I was told to go reboot the system and look at the bios
[01:21] <lstarnes> Alvinware: shiretoko is the codename for firefox 3.5 without the official branding
[01:21] <Guest62600> well because i seems to not realy be truly abil to play and look at tv shows on outher websites
[01:21] <Alvinware> istarnes, and it got bug in it.
[01:21] <Apocapus> but I didn't find the Floppy drive
[01:22] <lstarnes> Alvinware: then report the bug
[01:22] <Apocapus> So...I don't know if I went to the wrong area or if it's another problem
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> My monitor after about an hour or so of use shuts off (Green light goes yellow) and I have to do a hard reset
[01:22] <Alvinware> Istarnes, other did, but still no fix.
[01:22] <ProfOak> Apocapus: What were you trying to fix initially?
[01:22] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: normally floppy drive is called 3.5 in disk in the boot option
[01:22] <booksbuggy> well in the bio
[01:22] <Apocapus> Im trying to install ubuntu
[01:22] <Alvinware> Istarnes, go bad, god, and bad, switch.
[01:22] <mechtech> profoak: he was installing ubuntu
[01:22] <lstarnes> Alvinware: how long ago was the bug filed?  what was the bug?
[01:22] <Apocapus> 3.5?
[01:22] <ProfOak> My mistake...
[01:22] <PROject-Emerald> Any fixes for this problem?
[01:23] <Apocapus> Where in the Boot Menu?
[01:23] <jdu> PROject-Emerald, what happens if you hit ctrl+alt+f1  when that happens?
[01:23] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: well should be the first one
[01:23] <Alvinware> istarnes, youtube fullscreen.
[01:23] <nerdy_kid> cant list directory structure in FTP server when accessed via external IP.
[01:23] <booksbuggy> well on my old computer it is
[01:23] <PROject-Emerald> Nothing works when it happens, the display goes away like the monitor is powered off.
[01:23] <Apocapus> boot menu or Bios?
[01:23] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: on the first tab bios
[01:23] <Alvinware> Istarnes, add/remove stated beta.
[01:23] <PROject-Emerald> All sound goes away, etc
[01:23] <ProfOak> koro: Good news, I think you can install all of them and chose which you want to use on the fly.
[01:23] <Apocapus> 3.5 in the first tab?
[01:23] <lstarnes> Alvinware: what about Synaptic?
[01:24] <Apocapus> In Windows XP?
[01:24] <Alvinware> Istarnes, ttry it urself, man.
[01:24] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: well if the newer computer didn't change the name already
[01:24] <lstarnes> Alvinware: also, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:24] <revlo> nerdy_kid: firewall? -> passive mode (command PASV or passive in cli-client) might help
[01:24] <Alvinware> istarnes, 9.04.
[01:24] <nerdy_kid> revlo tryed those
[01:24] <Apocapus> I'll go look for 3.5
[01:24] <Apocapus> I'll try
[01:24] <booksbuggy> Apocapus: on the removable device part i think
[01:24] <lstarnes> Alvinware: I'm still using 8.04 so I can't try for myself
[01:24] <Alvinware> Istarnes, problem with 9.04?
[01:24] <nerdy_kid> revlo spent hour yesterday with somebody in here: still stuck
[01:24] <epalm> sooo using esata meaning putting a line in fstab, yes?
[01:24] <lstarnes> Alvinware: check what it says in synaptic
[01:25] <Alvinware> Istarnes, codename, longhorn, come out vista.
[01:25] <revlo> nerdy_kid: and a firewall? ftp data (ls and stuff) uses a lot of ports - you may check it with netstat -ntaup or something - or check your firewalllogs
[01:25] <Darwin{LTS}> hello I'm having some issue to install vlc   vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 1.0.0-1~ppa3) not going to be installed
[01:25] <losher> nerdy_kid: permissions problems?
[01:25] <nerdy_kid> losher no
[01:26] <Guest62600> are there any people who live in the usa .and that really know how can i look at tv-show's on the web.nbc-nbc hulu  and so-on plese pm me let meknow
[01:26] <nerdy_kid> revlo FTP uses 21 and 20 TCP im pretty sure both are forwarded
[01:26] <nellmathew> i know this is off-subject but when launching swiftfox in jaunty, anyone know why it shows "starting swiftfox" (with the hourglass thing) and then it disappears?.. can't seem to launch it.
[01:26] <nerdy_kid> revlo tryed forwarding all ports just for the heck of it, still didnt work
[01:26] <Guest62600> i am doen adobe flash player but it is not working
[01:27] <karatekickz> im having a random problem where compiz seems to crash when switching between workspaces using effects... the everything disapears accept the the desktop wall paper applications are still working however as I can hear music in my speakers thoughts?
[01:27] <Guest62600> have doen
[01:27] <Alvinware> Istarnes, maybe it's finial for windows, but not linux/ubuntu,i guess, cause bugs, and name.
[01:27] <karatekickz> except not accept ;)
[01:27] <PROject-Emerald> nobody? -_-
[01:27] <lstarnes> Alvinware: could you please tell me what version of firefox-3.5 is in synaptic?
[01:27] <Guest62600> HELLO ANYBODY
[01:27] <nerdy_kid> nellmatthew try launching it from terminal, it should say why its crashing
[01:28] <Darwin{> vlc: Depende: vlc-nox (= 1.0.0-1~ppa3) pero no va a instalarse
[01:28] <Darwin{> E: Paquetes rotos
[01:28] <Darwin{>  while trying to install vlc, any clue, I googled but nothing happened
[01:28] <Alvinware> Istarnes, 3.5.1
[01:28] <Alvinware> Istarnes, newess.
[01:28] <lstarnes> Alvinware: does that say that it's a beta?
[01:28] <Guest62600> ANY PEOPLE FROM THE USA .THAT CAN HELP ME PLESE
[01:29] <cooper77z> sure
[01:29] <lstarnes> !caps > Guest62600
[01:29] <nerdy_kid> Guest62600 ill try to help
[01:29] <Alvinware> Istarnes, youtube fullscreen in windows too?
[01:29] <Alvinware> Istarnes, no?
[01:29] <d0wn3r> yo
[01:29] <lstarnes> Alvinware: it's real fullscreen foe me
[01:29] <lstarnes> *for
[01:30] <nerdy_kid> cant list directory structure in FTP server when accessed via external IP.
[01:30] <d0wn3r> does anyone here have any experience with the DELL UBUNTU release?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> d0wn3r: not personally, but quite a lot of other people have had good experiences
[01:30] <Alvinware> Istarnes, why not just upgrade, why make it one os, got 2 firefox?
[01:30] <d0wn3r> oh hey sebsebseb
[01:30] <mattgyver> does anyone know how to make conky show cpu temperature in Fahrenheit?
[01:31] <lstarnes> Alvinware: ubuntu has a different update policy
[01:31] <lstarnes> Alvinware: ubuntu 9.04 came with firefox 3.0 so it will stay with firefox 3.0 as the main firefox
[01:31] <lstarnes> Alvinware: but 9.10, the next release, which isn't out yet, will likely ship with 3.5
[01:31] <Seven_Six_Two> Can anyone recommend a single use (a la dd) partition backup front-end with ssh build in?
[01:31] <Seven_Six_Two> *built
[01:32] <fission61> ia m running ubuntu and just installed WINE, ia m trying to run teamviewer (a window app), it takes forever to load but i did get it to randomly show up at one point, what gives?
[01:32] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: rsync will run over ssh and can be used to backup an arbitrary set of files...
[01:32] <Alvinware> istarnes, oh yeah just fixed it.
[01:32] <cooper77z> can I use firefox addons in epiphany? Stupid question I know, but sometimes one can actually do those type of things
[01:32] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: come to think of it, you can run dd over ssh too if needed...
[01:32] <Pici> fission61: #winehq would be the best place to ask wine questions. Also, have you seen the appdb?
[01:32] <epalm> in 9.04, is esata supposed to "just work" ?
[01:32] <Pici> !appdb | fission61
[01:32] <Alvinware> Istarnes, no change to the default.
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> losher, will rsync image the partition? I'm not looking for cli right now
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> losher, I'm looking for a frontend for a friend to use on his laptop.
[01:33] <Alvinware> Istarnes, anyways, got bugs, i'm not using it, the old is good.
[01:33] <mechtech> see y'all...about to win 7 my face off
[01:33] <mcpancakes> hey all, I've got a slight issue with firefox- some (seemingly most) fonts in Firefox don't display. information that's printed when I run Firefox from the terminal (http://pastie.org/private/jgfrhoj125aro4woq0zqag) leads me to believe that it's an issue with my cairo and/or pango packages.
[01:34] <Alex_21> Hello
[01:34] <pik}> i just did a clean install of jaunty and i made a partition with mount point /media/storage. i can see the partion and enter it but i dont have any access. how to fix?
[01:34] <cooper77z> thats kind of interesting mcpancakes
[01:34] <Alex_21> Does anyone know of any good poker/Cribbage stand a lone games
[01:34] <Alex_21> ?
[01:34] <Alex_21> Please
[01:34] <masterkoppa> pik} : did you mount it as root?
[01:35] <mechtech> alex_21: talk about off topic...just a sec
[01:35] <Alex_21> For Ubuntu
[01:35] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: no, rsync copies files, not partitions. Check out http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/info.html or maybe http://www.mondorescue.org
[01:35] <Alex_21> Of course
[01:35] <losher> !backup
[01:35] <masterkoppa> pik} : if not check for permision errors it the most common error
[01:35] <jdu> pik}, what fs is it?
[01:35] <pik}> reiserFS
[01:35] <losher> Seven_Six_Two: see also ubottu above
[01:35] <mcpancakes> cooper77z: I was thinking I maybe ought to reinstall both of cairo and pango?
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> that's a lot of links. Thanks all!
[01:36] <jdu> pik}, hmm, is the problem because your user does not own the files?
[01:36] <pik}> jdu probably
[01:36] <jdu> pik}, including the top level dir?
[01:36] <Alex_21> How do I do a search for packages from CLI?
[01:36] <Alex_21> Please
[01:36] <losher> Alex_21: apt-cache search <string>
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Alex_21, apt-cache
[01:36] <Pici> Alex_21: apt-cache search searchterm
[01:36] <mechtech> Alex_21:  http://www.brothersoft.com/dd-poker-for-linux-97737.html
[01:36] <cooper77z> I don't  know, but I was thinking that all the libraries don't work without direct control in the terminal?
[01:36] <jdu> pik}, so you can probably fix it by running: chown -R youruser:youruser /media/storage
[01:36] <pik}> ok trying
[01:37] <jdu> pik}, as root
[01:37] <jdu> sorry
[01:37] <mattgyver> Alex_21, sudo aptitude search <pkg>
[01:37] <mattgyver> oops, sorry
[01:37] <pik}> i figured that out myself jdu ;)
[01:37] <jdu> :)
[01:37] <pik}> jdu: that did the magic.
[01:37] <pik}> thanks mate
[01:38] <jdu> yeah!
[01:38] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, I experience the same thing also with 'sudo terminal', as well as launching it from its shortcut.
[01:38] <cooper77z> does firefox work normal in gui?
[01:40] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, all the elements in web pages load except for some text.
[01:40] <spursncowboys> hello everyone. If I was brand new to linux and got an ubuntu book and crunchbang on my laptop, would the book help me out?
[01:40] <cooper77z> on gnome or kde or something else?
[01:40] <mcpancakes> GNOME
[01:41] <mcpancakes> normal intrepid
[01:41] <cooper77z> hmmmm....
[01:41] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[01:41] <Alex_21> Good day
[01:41] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, it will help in most cases as their both linux
[01:41] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, also if I'm not mistaken their both based on debian
[01:42] <cooper77z> can you install the broadscope font libraries from applications library or synaptic?
[01:42] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, but i would recomend you read their documentation and base anything you do on that
[01:42] <CapaH> Ok let me explain what I am trying to do. I want to create an ip address on *this* machine - like 192.168.1.12 or 10.0.4.1 or whatever -- I want it to be so that anything sent to *that* ip address, on port 22 --- goes to a different ip address, on port 99 --- how can I do that?
[01:42] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, that way any support they can give you will be usefull for you
[01:43] <CapaH> in this way I can ssh to blah@10.0.4.1 instead of ssh to blah@_other_ip -p 99   -- removes the need to specify port
[01:43] <spursncowboys> Well really I want to buy my nephew the book and send him a disk and let him at it on his dell ispiron 2650
[01:43] <bucky> how come crunchbang doesn't have an irc channel on freenode?
[01:43] <spursncowboys> it has 256 mb and I read that is not good enough for ubuntu
[01:43] <Pici> bucky: they do. #crunchbang
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> CapaH, /etc/hosts
[01:44] <CapaH> ... of course
[01:44] <pik}> is there any way to use mouse4 (back) mouse5 (forward) with nautilus?
[01:44] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, the book would be good reference, but if your looking for small size try xubuntu
[01:44] <CapaH> Seven_Six_Two, : You can tell etc/hosts an IP address and PORT ?
[01:44] <bucky> oh cool 50 users
[01:44] <masterkoppa> its made for this type of cases
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> that I'm not sure of...
[01:44] <spursncowboys> would that be closer to the referrence type books for ubuntu?
[01:45] <losher> CapaH: Seven_Six_Two: no ports in /etc/hosts, sorry...
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> squid?
[01:45] <CapaH> ah thats what I need
[01:45] <CapaH> I need the port
[01:45] <bucky> spursncowboys: the crunchbang wki and forums
[01:45] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, yeah since its the same base code, you would only need to change references in gui tools and you can intall them on top if necesarry
[01:45] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, 'sudo aptitude search broadscope' nor searching for 'broadscope' in synaptic yields any results. what is that package?
[01:46] <CapaH> Is there a way to assign additional ips to this machine? If so I can modify ssh_config to use default ports
[01:46] <cooper77z> not code
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm sure squid would do it, although I don't know how easy it is to set up
[01:46] <CapaH> ... aliases
[01:46] <miroslav_> amagaaaaaaad ubuntu's kewl! :D
[01:46] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, if you decide to go for crunchbag it would be better to follow their documentation, rather than the ubuntu book
[01:46] <pik}> is there any way to use mouse4 (back) mouse5 (forward) with nautilus?
[01:47] <cooper77z> but I think if you search ubuntu forums under google gonts your edition you will find the package you could install to enable fonts in firefox
[01:47] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, besides online documentation is always better than a book since its almost allways up to date
[01:47] <Pici> spursncowboys: Best to ask in #crunchbang if you're looking for help with it, as it is not an official Ubuntu variant.
[01:47] <spursncowboys> masterkoppa: I didn't find an actual paperback book for that, and it said it is ubuntu
[01:47] <cooper77z> not gonts fonts
[01:48] <spursncowboys> thanks pici, they are helpin, I wasn't sure if anyone was in there to answer earlier.
[01:48] <CapaH> yep got it - using alias + /etc/hosts -- got it working
[01:48] <mcpancakes> I tried uninstalling/reinstalling msttcorefonts, but that did not fix it. it's not that no fonts show, only some don't.
[01:48] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, you would probably find more documentation regarding its WM openbox, which is the base of chrunchbag
[01:48] <cooper77z> there is a master font installer on the forums
[01:48] <Seven_Six_Two> CapaH, how'd you do the alias part?
[01:48] <bucky> spursncowboys: documentation is usually of date by the time it makes it to print so everything is done on the internet now
[01:48] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, I've persanally used openbox and its very light so its perfect for this case
[01:49] <cooper77z> not code
[01:49] <bucky> out of date
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> oh nm
[01:49] <cooper77z> maybe google font firefox ubuntu forums
[01:50] <CapaH> Seven_Six_Two: ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.1
[01:50] <CapaH> Just creating an internal ip visible to just this machine
[01:50] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, also have you considered a ram upgrade?
[01:50] <CapaH> then I can do whatever port forwarding I want on it
[01:50] <cooper77z> I am sure there is a tek on that one I have used it myself
[01:50] <Seven_Six_Two> CapaH, nice
[01:51] <Guest93624> hi, i installed the latest nvidia driver from nvidias website, if i install ubuntu's nvidia driver thats in the repo, will it get replaced or do i have to delete it first?
[01:51] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, no matter what distro you use it will allways bring a speed increse and since memory is so cheap these days it wont cost much
[01:51] <bucky> how much ram does Xbuntu use?
[01:51] <traemccombs> I have a duo core or something and from cat /proc/cpuinfo I see 2 entries like this: model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          4300  @ 1.80GHz  I was wondering if anyone here knows how to get 2 copies of World of Warcraft on linux, running on different CPUS"?
[01:51] <WolfBlood> I kind of need some help. I was running on Ubuntu 8.10 fine and my sound was perfectly fine and after I did an upgrade to 9.04 my sound is not working at all.
[01:51] <masterkoppa> bucky: if im not mistaken its 128 MB
[01:52] <Crewsr3> for some reason firefox 3.5 has not been updated on my computer.  I'm still on firefox 3.0
[01:52] <masterkoppa> bucky: its made for low memory footprint
[01:52] <linux_stu> i used brasero to rip an audio cd, and it gives me a .toc and a .toc.bin file.  how can i burn these to a blank cd to make a second audio cd?
[01:52] <Crewsr3> I even ran update manager manually
[01:52] <bucky> spursncowboys: 192 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 128 MB RAM to install
[01:52] <bucky> Xbuntu
[01:52] <spursncowboys> bucky: not that much but I wanted the closest thing to what a beg. ubuntu bk would have. If xubuntu is closer than crunchbang, then that is the one I want. I just don't know
[01:53] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, xubuntu is much closer than crunchbag
[01:53] <cooper77z> did that work mcpancakes?
[01:53] <bucky> spursncowboys: do you want 1500 users to help you here or 50 users to help you in #crunchbang ?
[01:54] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, also since its a first time user he wil thank that extra support he can get from this chat and the forums
[01:54] <spursncowboys> ok thanks masterkoppa
[01:54] <roguerobot> hi all
[01:54] <masterkoppa> spursncowboys, GL
[01:54] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, unfortunately, the ubuntu forums use one of the fonts that is not being loaded.
[01:54] <cooper77z> huh?
[01:54] <spursncowboys> yeah I am a huge fan of ubuntu. That is why I wanted a lite ubuntu
[01:54] <roguerobot> should i ask my newbie question here or on another channel?
[01:55] <cooper77z> maybe switch to beginners ubuntu help mcpancakes?
[01:55] <meglo> Where in GConf can I edit it so Metacity doesn't show the whole window when I drag it around? I just want an outline due to laggy tearing.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !ask |  roguerobot
[01:55] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, some fonts are not being displayed. the ubuntu forums' font is one of them.
[01:55] <hugoboss> I can not see programs if i minimize them.
[01:55] <hugoboss> what can i do?
[01:56] <cooper77z> select it all and watch the colors reverse mcpancakes
[01:56] <WolfBlood> Anyone help please?
[01:56] <masterkoppa> WolfBlood, whats the problem?
[01:56] <iceblock> lol i've only used 125gigs out of 300gigs this month
[01:57] <WolfBlood> Master: After updating to 9.04 from 8.10 my sound has not worked.
[01:57] <hugoboss> please help, I can not see minimized programs on the desktop.... what can i do??
[01:57] <rambo298> WolfBlood: dude did you search the forum?
[01:57] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, nah it's not a color issue. I ctrl-a and I see the same thing as if I were highlighting whitespace.
[01:57] <benny__> hellooo
[01:57] <WolfBlood> Rambo: Yes, could not find anything.
[01:57] <mcpancakes> it knows where the text is, it seems, but it isn't displaying it.
[01:57] <roguerobot> i'm trying to get ubuntu to use my DVD drive as DVD-R/W.  Right now it's using it as DVD ROM apparently.  I'm trying to burn a movie to a DVD.  Brasero says "use the right plugin" or something to that effect.  Any pointers?
[01:57] <artillerytx> Hey guys would it be worth running ubuntu server on a uverse connection
[01:57] <iceblock> maybe i need to download harder
[01:57] <benny__> how make a team in kubuntu community?
[01:57] <masterkoppa> WolfBlood, you will probably be better of looking in the forums, as Im not really good with sound issues
[01:57] <cooper77z> did you highlight some of the text to see if the text became visable?
[01:58] <cooper77z> mcpancakes?
[01:58] <rambo298> WolfBlood: hold on
[01:58] <WolfBlood> Master: I shall look again.
[01:58] <mcpancakes> cooper77z, yes. that's what ctrl-a does.
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, I heard about some people having success removing all pulse audio packages, reinstalling the ubuntu meta packages that get pulled and rebooting
[01:58] <cooper77z> try using the mouse
[01:58] <mcpancakes> same thing.
[01:58] <cooper77z> hmmmm...
[01:58] <hugoboss> cooper, can i use ipod on ubuntu??
[01:58] <rambo298> WolfBlood: go here ... try what one suggested http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136670&page=2
[01:59] <Crewsr3> Anyone know why Firefox 3.5 has not been pushed out via update manager?
[01:59] <cooper77z> of course you can
[01:59] <WolfBlood> Thank you Rambo, Seven.
[01:59] <hugoboss> How??
[01:59] <hugoboss> which programs should i use??
[01:59] <cooper77z> I don't know, but I am sure it's possible
[01:59] <traemccombs> is there a way to specify what processor an application runs on with duocore?
[02:00] <hugoboss> ok
[02:00] <cooper77z> bye for now, I am going for a bike ride :)
[02:00] <ltgg> newbie here: GDM crashed " could not start Xserver"  ... am logged in as root in recovery mode ... what command sequence to try recover GDM? thnks anyone
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, browse to /var/log and cat the gdm log file to see what the error is.
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, sorry, not cat.  less
[02:03] <arand> Crewsr3: 3.5 still not ready, I guess...
[02:03] <ltgg> seven: how to "cat the gdm log file"  command?
[02:05] <Crewsr3> arand, any quess as to why 3.5 is not ready for ubuntu?
[02:05] <arand> ltgg: less /var/log/gdm/:0.log.1
[02:05] <Kira> So which desktop environment is supposed to be the most lightweight again? CDE or XDM?
[02:05] <Kira> (among CDE, XDM, GNOME, and KDE)
[02:06] <Seven_Six_Two> cd /var/log/gdm && less :0.log
[02:06] <mechtech> when burning an ISO onto a disk, can I put other folders/files in the burn folder?
[02:06] <bucky> Kira: i like icewm
[02:07] <ltgg> seven: got a bunch of output i do not understand
[02:07] <simonsez1> hi everyone
[02:07] <jrdave> hey guys... a quick question for u... I have an old PC with 512MB RAM... debian (free -m) is reporting 504MB only! Any explanations? (the video is NOT shared)
[02:07] <mechtech> jrdave: rounding...I have 1024, but Ubuntu says only 1001
[02:08] <bucky> Kira: and you can install icewm-gnome-support to get all the functionality of gnome
[02:08] <jrdave> mechtech: oh!
[02:08] <jrdave> mechtech: so if I convert the amount manually it show be correct (from bytes)?
[02:09] <Kira> bucky: how does it compare to Xfce?
[02:09] <mechtech> jrdave: makes sense to me
[02:09] <jrdave> mechtech: lemme try
[02:09] <linuxman410_> does anyone else having problems with 64 bit flash player
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, what irc client do you use? (typing my nick makes the conversation easier to follow for me)  you could put the lines that look like errors on pastebin.com and give us the link it returns. Without knowing what the error is...
[02:10] <bucky> Kira: Xfce is nice if you like that flavor.. it's kinda got it's own feel
[02:10] <jrdave> mechtech: NO... its in KB and when divided by 1024 it shows 504MB!!!
[02:10] <bucky> Kira:  192 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 128 MB RAM to install Xbuntu
[02:11] <mechtech> jrdave:  why would you divide by 1024?
[02:11] <rambo298> jrdave: using free or system monitor?
[02:11] <jrdave> mechtech: coz the default output is in KB
[02:12] <Kira> Can either be used with NX?
[02:12] <ltgg> seven: using Xchat ... cannot pastebin output ... do not know ho to do that from where I am ( recovery prompt )
[02:12] <mechtech> jrdave:  you need only move the decimal place three places to the left to convert from KB to MB
[02:13] <mechtech> when burning an ISO onto a dvd, can I add other files/folders to the burn folder, or would that make the disk not boot when I am done?
[02:13] <jrdave> mechtech: 1MB=1024KB and not 1000
[02:13] <rambo298> ahhh the famous "MB" ... riddle me this ... is an MB= 1000 * 1024 * 1024?  or 1000 * 1000 * 1000?  or 1000 * 1024 * 1000?
[02:13] <arand> !pastebinit | ltgg if you have net
[02:13] <stovicek> jrdave: marketing in the storage world isn't entirely accurate as many find with more often with hard drives. same holds true for memory. you probably have somewhere around 512000 bytes in marketing terms, that's 512MB, not 504MB. It all depends on how you divide the bytes, either by 1024 or 1000.
[02:14] <bucky> Kira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=402684
[02:14] <jrdave> stovicek: BIOS reports 512MB
[02:14] <unitypunk> hey.
[02:14] <mechtech> jrdave: as I said before and stoveicek has more verbosely described...rounding
[02:14] <stovicek> jrdave: because bios divided it by 1000. Either way, you have a half gig.
[02:15] <mechtech> jrdave: therefore, to convert KB into MB, simply move the decimal point three places to the left
[02:15] <audigy7x> new here
[02:15] <unitypunk> is there a secure way to share my media online?
[02:15] <stovicek> jrdave: I've got 4Gb. Bios reports it as 4GB. But I see 3830MB. It's still the same 4GB, just divided by a different factor.
[02:15] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, if you use xchat, just type the first few chars of a nick and hit tab. it will either autocomplete for you or give you a list of possible choices (so hit a few more characters) and tab again
[02:15] <Kira> bucky: cool. :D
[02:15] <Kira> Thanks
[02:15] <unitypunk> so when im not on my local network i can acess them?
[02:15] <jrdave> stovicek: I see
[02:17] <jdu> stovicek, lot's of hardware, pci devices, agp, etc could be using it too
[02:17] <unitypunk> do samba shares work over the internet aswell as local?
[02:17] <ltgg> seven: now have lost my root prompt ( BTW the crashed system is not the one I am on in this chat ) guess i will just reinstall OS ... lesson learned .... do NOT enter commands you do not understand  ... 'help' from someone on this channel a month back  trying to solve a minor problem ... CRASH!
[02:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, lol. sorry about your luck...
[02:17] <SuperBert> samba will work over the internet, but it's not secure so you should put the traffic inside a vpn
[02:18] <kotsu> Hey FunkyHat!
[02:18] <unitypunk> is that hard?im still pretty new.
[02:18]  * kotsu smacks funkyHat
[02:18] <ltgg> seven: thanks for your response ... often on this channel i feel invisible.
[02:19] <darthhelmet> I saw the sign, and it opened up my eyes I saw the sign.
[02:19] <darthhelmet> hi all
[02:19] <bucky> unitypunk: it's hard if you have a hard time reading docs or googling
[02:20] <SuperBert> unitypunk: depends on your skill/experience/equipment at hand
[02:20] <unitypunk> and any computer anywhere can acess a vpn?
[02:20] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, if you *can* add to the burn folder, you aren't burning the image (getting the original data back).
[02:20] <unitypunk> cause like, i want my girlfriend to have acess too.
[02:20] <blognewb_> hey guys is there a guide somewhere on installing servers to ubuntu via command line? howtoforge has GUI but im trying to install packages in my vps
[02:21] <SuperBert> unitypunk, how many different users need the info?  is the info security sensitive?
[02:21] <unitypunk> not at all
[02:21] <unitypunk> just my movie collection
[02:21] <unitypunk> and music
[02:22] <Pici> blognewb_: Have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html  Its quite helpful
[02:22] <blognewb_> Pici: I haven't yet, is it dumb/stupid/noob friendly?
[02:22] <SuperBert> unitypunk, to make it easy install gadmin-samba to setup your samba.  if you want it open over the internet, have your firewall map in ports 137,138,139.  Have the other user connectio to \\ipaddress\share
[02:23] <Seven_Six_Two> ltgg, np. if you're looking for some good reading material (aside from free online docs) I recommend "Linux Administrator Handbook". It's pink and has a cartoon on the front, but it's excellent
[02:23] <unitypunk> then they could mount it as a virtual drive right?
[02:24] <SuperBert> unitypunk, be aware that samba via internet is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks and who can see traffic between you and other user gets the samba password.  samba password does not have to be same as a login user's password.  samba user does not have to be the same as a login user.  you should make the share read only access.
[02:24] <SuperBert> unitypunk, maybe make your share readonly to public and share over the internet....
[02:24] <SuperBert> unitypunk, yes easily mounted as a drive in windows or linux
[02:25] <SuperBert> windows = map z: \\ipaddy\share
[02:25] <unitypunk> that sounds perfect.
[02:25] <WolfBlood> How do I open alsa mixer in terminal?
[02:25] <SuperBert> linux = mount -t cifs //ipaddy/share /mnt/somemountpoint (install smbclient, smbfs first)
[02:25] <masterkoppa> WolfBlood, type alsamixer
[02:27] <sbp_>  8816
[02:27] <unitypunk> gadmin-samba is the package name righta/
[02:27] <twig11> What's the proper procedure to create a user whose home directory already exists in /home?
[02:28] <SuperBert> gadmin-samba, you can also find under add/remove programs
[02:28] <unitypunk> well im in terminal right now.
[02:28] <Ghoti__> twig11: probably 'adduser'
[02:28] <unitypunk> and i have root.
[02:28] <censushq> the sound card and wireless dont work unless i boot in recovery mode
[02:28] <jdu> twig11, and perhaps deleteing the home dir first
[02:28] <unitypunk> tried apt-get install gadmin-samba and it wasnt found.
[02:28] <censushq> is there a permenaent fix to this
[02:28] <SuperBert> sudo apt-get install gadmin-samba
[02:29] <unitypunk> i already did su.,
[02:29] <lvlefisto> twig11: i am a user too, but, what i would do is rename the folder, then create the user, and then rename again the folder to match the user's login name
[02:29] <Seven_Six_Two> useradd -d /home/username username
[02:29] <jdu> lvlefisto, twig11 one could just copy the files
[02:29] <Seven_Six_Two> the -d sets what the homedir should be
[02:30] <bucky> gadmin-openvpn-server and gadmin-openvpn-client are good ones too
[02:30] <SuperBert> do you have the universe/multiverse installed?
[02:30] <unitypunk> uhh
[02:30] <unitypunk> i think so.
[02:30] <unitypunk> i should?
[02:30] <lvlefisto> jdu: that too =)
[02:30] <twig11> lvlefisto: jdu: and if I just copied files over the permissions would be right if the new user's name was the same as the old one?
[02:30] <sephy> Is it me or does firefox always lock up when you try to upload pictures to imageshack, tinypic, flickr?
[02:30] <unitypunk> if the files are already smb shared.
[02:31] <unitypunk> do i have to do anything to them?
[02:31] <sephy> I get the "grey out" effect
[02:31] <Ghoti__> twig11: you'd want do chown -R user:user /home/user/
[02:31] <gareim> sephy: i dont have that problem
[02:31] <jdu> twig11, probably, but not always.  You might have to use a chown command afterword
[02:31] <gareim> sephy: but it happens to me on flickr
[02:31] <jdu> like Ghoti__ said
[02:31] <lvlefisto> twig11: you can always set the permissions to the folder using chmode -R
[02:31] <sephy> I can't get it to work for Imageshack photobucket and tinypic
[02:31] <SuperBert> edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list, find the line with "main" and add " universe multiverse".  save the file.  apt-get update.  apt-get install gadmin-samba
[02:31] <censushq> ever since i installed virtualbox ose (since removed) my sound card and wireless dont work unlexx i boot to recovery mode
[02:31] <SuperBert> if the files are already shared, it's a firewall issue
[02:32] <Flannel> twig11: Just use adduser, and tell it to not to create a homedir, it's one of the options.
[02:32] <masterkoppa> censushq, have you checked the forums for a solution?
[02:32] <SuperBert> gadmin-samba gives you a nice gui to add/remove shares, add/remove users, etc. as it relates to samba
[02:32] <twig11> Ghoti__: lvlefisto: okay I think I can handle that. Flannel: what is the syntax for that?
[02:32] <censushq> what is the url for the forums
[02:32] <censushq> i didnt check there first
[02:32] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, useradd -d /home/username username
[02:33] <masterkoppa> censushq, ubuntuforums.org
[02:34] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: How do I set whether that user is a desktop user or an admin?
[02:35] <masterkoppa> twig11, if you want him to be an admin add him to the admins group already created
[02:35] <Flannel> twig11: Actually, adduser already doesn't overwrite home if it exists.
[02:35] <Flannel> Seven_Six_Two: There's no reason to use useradd, adduser is a much better method
[02:35] <twig11> Flannel: I hope you're SURE.
[02:35] <censushq> kernel update destroyed sound and wifi
[02:35] <Flannel> twig11: check the manpage yourself if you don't believe me.
[02:35] <censushq> fixed by booting into recovery mode
[02:36] <Maximo> !hello
[02:36] <masterkoppa> censushq, the try reinstalling the kernel package
[02:36] <twig11> Flannel: be back in a minute.
[02:36] <Ghoti__> censushq: have you tried reinstalling your kernel?
[02:36] <tuxedo> os[Linux 2.6.31-rc3-zenmod3 x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[4 x AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.30GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 95.9% free] disk[Total: 18.5GB, 61.6% free] video[nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB]
[02:36] <tuxedo> !!!!!!!
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, is the result different?
[02:36] <Flannel> twig11: You can throw in --no-create-home too if you want
[02:37] <censushq> how do i revert to older kernel or reinstall kernetl package
[02:37] <tuxedo> i want to disable a module from the initramfs
[02:37] <Flannel> Seven_Six_Two: Sometimes.  adduser has more defaults built in, etc.  useradd is much lower level.
[02:37] <Ghoti__> censushq: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-<version>
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, I noticed more switches on the manpage. do you happen to know if they both use the skeleton dir for new users?
[02:38] <mechtech> I want to burn an ISO onto a disk along with other files and folders...will that prevent the disk from being bootable?
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, what kind of iso?
[02:38] <unitxt> What's the recommended way to install Adobe Reader on 9.04?
[02:39] <MagicFab> mechtech yes
[02:39] <mechtech> seven_six_two: bootable operating system iso
[02:39] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, if you're choosing to burn a data cd/dvd and adding the iso, it wouldn't be bootable anyhow
[02:39] <MagicFab> unitxt .deb from their site
[02:40] <mechtech> magicfab: yes it will prevent the disk from booting?
[02:40] <jefinc> unitxt: I believe ubuntu comes out of the box with a reader, just doesn't have 'adobe' on it
[02:40] <MagicFab> mechtech not prevent... as SST says a data dvd wont boot anyways
[02:40] <blognewb_> hey guys how do i install "make" and gcc via Putty?
[02:40] <blognewb_> im scared
[02:40] <Flannel> Seven_Six_Two: they both do, yes.
[02:40] <Crash2108_> losher, you here?
[02:40] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, it's not the adding of files and folders at burn time that stops it from being bootable.
[02:41] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, thanks
[02:41] <MagicFab> jefinc corretc. evince it is
[02:41] <unitxt> MagicFab: it's a .bin file...
[02:41] <unitxt> jefinc, I use Document Viewer at the moment and it's good. I have my reasons why I want Adobe
[02:41] <MagicFab> blognewb_ with build tools comes great rsponsibility ;)
[02:41] <Seven_Six_Two> mechtech, it's that you're burning a data cd. you need to choose "burn image"
[02:42] <mechtech> magicfabe ISO is of a bootable disk?: seven_six_two:  even if th
[02:42] <jefinc> unitxt: fair enough :)
[02:42] <Crash2108_> Ubuntu didn't work for shit.  Installed Fedora 11 with no problems whatsover.  Thanks.
[02:42] <mechtech> seven_six_two:  Oh...I see
[02:42] <censushq> i am rebooting i may return
[02:42] <Seven_Six_Two> if you want to add files (don't know if you can do this) you would have to mount the iso as loopback device and add the files *before* burning. any comments on whether that would work?
[02:44] <gartral> Seven_Six_Two: ive done it, but it can be slower thana program just burning the contents of the iso too disk
[02:45] <Seven_Six_Two> gartral, mounting the iso and then burning a data disc of the contents + whatever?
[02:46] <mechtech> thanks guys, I'll just burn the image and retreive waht I want after wards...
[02:46] <gartral> Seven_Six_Two: is slower than just burning the contents to a cd..
[02:48] <mechtech> how do streamer?you restart g
[02:48] <mechtech> how do you restart gstreamer?
[02:48] <censushq> i am back
[02:49] <censushq> reinstalling kernel fixed wireless but not sound
[02:49] <censushq> the sound speker icon tray has a red no sign
[02:49] <censushq> when i click on it it gives an errror that there is no sound device
[02:49] <censushq> is there a trick to fix the sound
[02:50] <censushq> no volume control gstreamer plugins/and or devices found
[02:50] <censushq> is the error
[02:50] <censushq> the kernel update broke my sound
[02:50] <censushq> and wireless
[02:50] <censushq> i fixed the wireless
[02:50] <donavan_> any ideas why mp3s get all mixed up when I copy them to my mp3 player ... have some audio books and kinda need them to be in order from 1 to whatever but when I copy them over they get all jumbled and this happens on more than one mp3 player
[02:51] <twig11> Flannel: I can go adduser /home/username username
[02:51] <twig11> ?
[02:52] <Flannel> twig11: if you want it to create a homedir somewhere other than /home/username, you can specify it. Otherwise, it uses that format by default (see the man page)
[02:52] <twig11> Flannel: so just adduser username?
[02:52] <Chun1> gparted is listing /dev/sda3 (which is mounted as /home/db) as having 53GB used out of 72 -- but properties for /home/db shows only 17GB being used. Something I'm missing?
[02:52] <censushq> what keyboard shortcut gets to a terminal window
[02:52] <pelmen> Guys!, after installing electric sheep my s/mplayer does not work anymore. I get the error libx264.so.67 not found...anyone ?
[02:52] <bucky> donavan_: ls -f in your mp3 dir and it will show how they really are without sorting
[02:52] <Chun1> (trash=empty)
[02:53] <donavan_> bucky ... ok thanks
[02:53] <eaglestar> hi i upgraded recently and now when i go to youtube i just have a white screen
[02:53] <Flannel> twig11: If you want no options, just the default for everything, yeah
[02:54] <eaglestar> i have amd 64 9.04 and did updates
[02:54] <jefinc> !info libx264.so.67
[02:54] <pawan> hi
[02:54] <eaglestar> i had installed xine-ui as well
[02:54] <unitypunk> are there ports i need to foward for smb to work over the web?
[02:54] <bucky> !info libx264.so.65
[02:54] <pawan> how to add new wallpapers in ubuntu default directory
[02:54] <MadCowBoy> Can anyone help me installing flash 10 in firefox 3.011  I tried everything I could find on the help forums, nothing seems to be working,
[02:54] <pawan> where are they stored
[02:54] <bucky> !info libx264-65
[02:55] <jefinc> pawan: in /usr/share/backgrounds
[02:55] <eaglestar> ubottu is that for me
[02:55] <pelmen> yeah, I had to add some launchpad repos, but i set everything back later
[02:55] <pawan> cant copy but
[02:55] <pawan> Error opening file '/usr/share/backgrounds/343.jpg': Permission denied
[02:55] <MadCowBoy> oh ya, Ubuntu 9.04  Flash installs no problem, but in firefox, all about:plugins says is "flash 9 r 999
[02:56] <twig11> Flannel:  so just to make double-sure I'm understanding you correctly, if I want to create a new user with a pre-existing directory as its home directory, I can just go adduser username and that will cause the user to be created, using the existing directory as home instead of overwriting it?
[02:56] <Seven_Six_Two> Flannel, I just read in the LAH that useradd is faster and less error prone (and it's recommended) but the man pages for both useradd and adduser both recommend adduser. lol.
[02:56] <eaglestar> i had flash running without a hitch now it doesn't show anything how do i fix it
[02:56] <MadCowBoy> its been two days i;ve been trying.
[02:57] <padd1> does anyone know anything about the wii?
[02:57] <PROject-Emerald> sex appeal.
[02:57] <padd1> i bric(11:54:22) padd1: hey i've bricked wii. cant open wad manager. how do i get it to work?
[02:57] <padd1> (11:54:35) padd1: i've got preloader and can open up hbc.
[02:57] <PROject-Emerald> that is all.
[02:57] <Seven_Six_Two> padd1, sure. I like guitar hero and tennis
[02:57] <padd1> k pm. seven six 2
[02:57] <portablejim> Apparmor policy for dhclient3 (filename: sbin.dhclient3) is causing network manage to fail to connect. The solution is to link to the disabled folder in /etc/apparmor.d/ . However on a restart, the policy is re-enabled.
[02:57] <censushq> checkup the wootoff at wwoo
[02:57] <bucky> ubotto you sure are dumb
[02:57] <censushq> woot.com
[02:58] <jefinc> bucky: ...it's a bot..
[02:58] <bucky> ubottu you sure are dumb
[02:58] <padd1> hi ubotto
[02:58] <Seven_Six_Two> padd1, sorry. I was being facetious because that was a very general question.
[02:58] <pelmen> hmm weird i fixed that by creating symlink from so.65...it did not work before
[02:58] <MadCowBoy> Flash 10 help anyone please?
[02:58] <Apocapus> Ummm I can't find the Floppy Drive in my computer.....I don't think there is one.....but I have alot of drives....I have Flash Drive readers...Sd readers...and so on...could that cause problems with Ubuntu?
[02:58] <padd1> ok. can anyone help me, i've got a bricked wii?
[02:59] <donavan_> bucky is there a way to resort the files by file name instead of how they are
[02:59] <MadCowBoy> Hi padd1, this Ubuntu not wii
[02:59] <mechtech> !topic padd1
[02:59] <WolfBlood> I give up, this is friggin retarded.
[02:59] <bucky> apt-file would be a cool feature for ubottu.. it was the one thing that really sold my on apt-get
[02:59] <MadCowBoy> WolfBlood: whats up?
[02:59] <jefinc> !ot padd1
[02:59] <eaglestar> MadCowBoy, what arch do you have?
[02:59] <jefinc> !ot | padd1
[02:59] <padd1> madcowboy, there's no one on wii channel. mabe u can sign in to wii channel?
[02:59] <WolfBlood> Mad: After upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10, my sound died.
[02:59] <bucky> donavan_: i don't know about that one.. it would be cool to find out if you could
[02:59] <MadCowBoy> 9.04
[03:00] <MadCowBoy> padd1: no bud, I can;t help you with your wii
[03:00] <padd1> yo k
[03:00] <MadCowBoy> eaglestar: 9.04
[03:00] <WolfBlood> Mad: It does not read as muted and says I have 75% volume but no sound at all, sometimes an occasional beep from my system.
[03:00] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, did you try uninstalling all of the pulse audio packages, then reinstalling the ubuntu-* packages that also get uninstalled then rebooting?
[03:00] <Apocapus> ummm....Can having CF Drives....SD Drives and so on affect Ubuntu install?
[03:00] <twig11> Flannel: Seven_Six_Two: so just to make double-sure I'm understanding you correctly, if I want to create a new user with a pre-existing directory as its home directory, I can just go adduser username and that will cause the user to be created, using the existing directory as home instead of overwriting it?
[03:00] <twig11> Should that work?
[03:00] <jefinc> padd1: try in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[03:01] <eaglestar> yeah i understand but what processor do you have
[03:01] <WolfBlood> Seven: I don't know how to uninstall all the pulse audio packages + reinstall.
[03:01] <Apocapus> I AMD Athlon
[03:01] <Apocapus> I mean Sempron
[03:01] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, I think there are more recommended options for adduser. you can see all of them with    man adduser
[03:01] <donavan_> ok anyone know if there is a way to re-sort how files are saved on my mp3 player its playing them out of order
[03:01] <mechtech> Apocapus:  try disabling the USB drive boot option, and/or unplug the readers etc
[03:01] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[03:01] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, are you using gnome?
[03:02] <Apocapus> So The USB drive readers do affect the install
[03:02] <WolfBlood> Seven: Yes
[03:02] <MadCowBoy> check the WolfBlood  This troubleshooting guide helped me, Its for 8.10, but the steps should be the same.
[03:02] <Apocapus> But I don't know how to disable them their built in
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> run synaptic, search for "pulse" and completely remove them. you'll get a popup saying other packages have to be removed as well. write them down. then apply the changes. when that's done, search for the packages that you wrote down and reinstall them. apply, and when that's done, reboot
[03:03] <mechtech> Apocapus: don't disable the drives, just disable the bios option for booting to usb drive, and remove any media that might be in those drives
[03:04] <WolfBlood> Seven: I am really, really new. What is synaptic?
[03:04] <Apocapus> OH Ok....
[03:04] <WolfBlood> Seven: Scratch that, I found it
[03:04] <donavan_> apocapus I have usb card readers on mine and every version I have installed worked fine ... just make sure you dont have any media in it
[03:04] <Apocapus> I don't even know how to put media into them
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> WolfBlood, make sure that you are removing the pulse audio stuff, because there may be other, non-audio related pkgs with pulse in the name. I don't know
[03:05] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: I've read man adduser. Unfortunately, I don't think I have enough experience to make sense of how to put this together. What I want to do is create a user whose priveleges would be the equivalent of what is called I think a Desktop User in the "users and groups" GUI. But I want that user's home dir to be the preexisting one in /home. What command would you use for that?
[03:05] <evon>  I had installed mint to an external drive. i screwed up the grub settings so now I want to install the bootloader on the external drive so that it will boot mint
[03:05] <inline> net
[03:05] <donavan_> apocapus ... you put media in my putting a SD or CF ( or whatever) into the slot (physically)... nothing special here
[03:06] <Apocapus> Yeah...but their not in at the moment.....
[03:06] <Apocapus> I don't have flash cards or shock cards....inserted
[03:06] <Apocapus> so how can their be media
[03:07] <unitypunk_> can i do \\dydns\share
[03:07] <WolfBlood> Seven: No other packages were removed.
[03:07] <unitypunk_> or must it be ip?
[03:07] <evon>  I had installed mint to an external drive. i screwed up the grub settings so now I want to install the bootloader on the external drive so that it will boot mint
[03:07] <arleslie> Apocapus, just insert a media disk into the slot and it should work
[03:07] <Apocapus> But I don't have media disks
[03:07] <donavan_> apocapus... media is any storage you put data on ... if you dont have a card in then there is no media to read ...what exactly are you trying to accomplish
[03:07] <Apocapus> I want to install ubuntu
[03:08] <unitypunk_> Do it.
[03:08] <Apocapus> But I keep getting logical blocks
[03:08] <MadCowBoy> Apocapus: do you have a 1GB usb stick?
[03:08] <Apocapus> Yeah I do
[03:08] <mechtech> he is getting block errors when trying to install ubuntu...poor guy...this all started hours ago for him and he's sort of spinning his wheels
[03:09] <MadCowBoy> google unetbootin Linux and you'll get an installer for your usb stick Apocapus
[03:10] <eukzeta> hello
[03:10] <Apocapus> Do I need the whole Flash stick all 1 gigs?
[03:10] <donavan_> apocapus ... check you private message
[03:10] <mechtech> GUYS  Apocapus wants to install Ubuntu onto his hard drive, but keeps getting logical block errors
[03:10] <arleslie> mechtech, donavan_ is taking care of it.
[03:10] <meanburrito920_> Nautilus is giving me an error message saying "could not display network:///"
[03:11] <MadCowBoy> ah sorry bud.
[03:11] <meanburrito920_> whenever I try and go to the network tab
[03:11] <Pici> !enter
[03:11] <mechtech> I told him to write them down, then paste them into pastebin so we could read them, that was like 5 hours ago
[03:11] <mechtech> arleslie: ok...sorry
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11,   sudo adduser --home /home/username --shell /bin/bash
[03:11] <Apocapus> All I remember is Error On Disk Write...Logical Block error...and then it gives you a number
[03:11] <nellmathew> hey guys, i used acronis a while back with my windows ntfs partitions, i have a few hard drives backed up and saved as TIB files, is there a way i can browse or mount this archive in ubuntu? (without a virtual machine w/ windows & acronis?)
[03:12] <Apocapus> and it keeps going like that......
[03:12] <MadCowBoy> I am trying to get flash 10 installed in Firefox, I tried everything I oculd find, but I must be missing something,  Trust me, I know my way around, but I've been at this off and on for two days, has anyone else had flash10 just not take?
[03:12] <arleslie> Apocapus, did you format the partition before installing?
[03:12] <meanburrito920_> Pici: yeah, i know. one line for the question. the next line was just clarification :)
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, oops, put the new username at the end of that
[03:12] <arleslie> MadCowBoy, did you try downloading from adobe?
[03:12] <Pici> meanburrito920_: Wasn't for you actually, just an FYI for everyone.
[03:12] <phishie> a freind asked me about chinese input for ubuntu, i have no idea where to start, anyone could help with this?
[03:12] <meanburrito920_> Pici: ah.
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> and make sure it matches the name of the existing home
[03:13] <oOarthurOo> Hi... I just watched this really cool video of an aquarium here: http://pastebin.com/m816148e   and I'm curious, is there a screensaver or something like this for Ubuntu?
[03:13] <Pici> phishie: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM would be the best place to start.
[03:13] <MadCowBoy> arleslie: ya bud,
[03:13] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[03:13] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: sudo adduser --home /home/username --shell /bin/bash username?
[03:13] <arleslie> MadCowBoy, then tghats strange
[03:13] <phishie> Pici: thanks =)
[03:13] <MadCowBoy> the .deb installs no prob, but firefox jsut isnt seeing it for some reason, I tried the one in synaptic
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, that should do it
[03:13] <Apocapus> Format what partition....whats a partition?
[03:14] <arleslie> MadCowBoy, try reinstalling firefox
[03:14] <ricardo_> hola
[03:14] <MadCowBoy> arleslie, will  do,
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, you can probably drop the --shell and bash. they should be the default anyhow.
[03:14] <arleslie> !partition | Apocapus
[03:14] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: I guess they don't hurt anything there.
[03:14] <phishie> exit
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, I also recommend backing up the home dir first. hahah
[03:15] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: Is it risky?
[03:15] <ricardo_> hooooooooola
[03:15] <ricardo_> hay alguien
[03:15] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, I don't think so, but bad things happen when you assume everything will be ok
[03:15] <Pici> !es | ricardo_
[03:15] <ricardo_> que habla espnol
[03:16] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, the thing about paranoia is that it works
[03:16] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two:  I know. But I've got a not-too-ancient backup so I think I'm going to let my paranoia go for this once.
[03:17] <oOarthurOo> Anyone know of a good aquarium screensaver for Ubuntu? Lifelike fish etc?
[03:17] <dahlia> is there a 32 bit ubuntu desktop distribution that includes a PAE kernel?
[03:17] <starcraftman> Anyone here got a moment and easytag installed? I'm getting an odd error from the CDDB lookup function. It says connection refused, but i"m online and I'm pretty positive server is up.
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> starcraftman, are there any other cddb servers to choose?
[03:18] <Ghoti__> starcraftman: have you tried FreeDB rather than CDDB?
[03:18] <DVA5912> Is it possible to maby run a small windows print server in ubuntu? this vista home primum is the worst software ever! xp doesnt lag this much, windows seven doesnt nothing else is this bad. Im sorry i went back to it. but the only way i can get to ubuntu is by a windows server of some type. the printer is not at all supported in linux. its considered a paperweight
[03:19] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: Yes, you can share a printer with either cups or samba
[03:19] <DVA5912> no
[03:19] <Kalmi> dahlia, just install the server kernel
[03:19] <jwalsh> could anyone help me? i cannot, for the life of me, get ubuntu to connect to my wireless network
[03:19] <DVA5912> not sharing. this is the only desktop pc
[03:19] <arleslie> !ask jwalsh
[03:19] <koro> jwalsh: can you see your wireless network?
[03:19] <DVA5912> the only other pc is a notebook. and its not going to stay connected. Ghoti__
[03:20] <koro> jwalsh: is your wireless card actually configured?
[03:20] <jwalsh> koro: i think so
[03:20] <koro> if you go to networkmanager you see the name of your network listed?
[03:20] <mechtech> arleslie: I think you forgot your pipe
[03:20] <arleslie> mechtech, yea, its always that one command I forget the pipe
[03:20] <jwalsh> koro: i'm not seeing network manager
[03:20] <opengyan> hey ! 9.04 on hp laptop
[03:21] <DVA5912> is there no hope for this printer? Do i actuly have to vm a full windows just for my printer?
[03:21] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: that like totally worked. Thanks. Now I should run chown -R user:user /home/user/ ?
[03:21] <opengyan> i done ppoeconf for home wireless....working
[03:21] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: what printer is it?
[03:21] <arleslie> !details| opengyan
[03:21] <DVA5912> Canon Pixma MP480
[03:21] <mechtech> dva5912: tried a post script driver yet?
[03:21] <koro> jwalsh: on the top right of your screen, a little icon
[03:21] <opengyan> but when in office ....it is not detetcing wireless
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, was the old username the same as the new one (and the dir?)
[03:21] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: yep
[03:21] <DVA5912> mechtech: ive been all through the printer setup thing if thats what you mean
[03:22] <jwalsh> koro: hm. that one actually didn't show up when i rebooted. lemme see if i can get it back
[03:22] <DVA5912> and ive chosen close models but non of them work mechtech
[03:22] <opengyan> so i have this problem of not getting wifi in office
[03:22] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, then you don't have to do that
[03:22] <opengyan> yesterday i configured it for pppoeconf at home wireless
[03:22] <arleslie> opengyan, Is there alot of electrical applicanes, between your router and your office?
[03:23] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: except I haven't done that since earlier, when I imported that directory from a FAT drive. That means my permissions are all messed up and I should run chown right?
[03:23] <opengyan> it is just adjacent
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> you would only do that if you needed to change the owner of the files. old user bob will still own the home dir after it's created again.
[03:23] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: have you checked this page?  http://mp610.blogspot.com/2008/04/give-your-scanner-new-freshly-sane.html
[03:23] <mechtech> dva5912:  when you choose the driver, try post script driver...a generic driver that WILL work for most printers...may not have all the functionality or font support you're used to, but you will print
[03:23] <opengyan> i want to try undoing ppoeconf
[03:23] <craigbass1976> what's the best way to play streaming mp3?  Looking to do what I used to with xmms
[03:23] <arleslie> opengyan, is the wireless connected while outside the office?
[03:23] <DVA5912> mechtech: false. ive tryed those (the generic ones) they dont work what so ever
[03:23] <Ghoti__> craigbass1976: Rhythmboxdoes streaming audio well
[03:23] <DVA5912> Ghoti__: that worked only for the scanner. ive done that
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, oh they were fat? you might want to then. and you might have to set the permissions again
[03:24] <opengyan> yea it connnect me to home network..
[03:24] <opengyan> it use to connect me to office as well ..prior to pppoeconf
[03:24] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: I hate the thought of doing that on every directory in the heirarchy.
[03:24] <mechtech> dva5912: they're not universal, but it has been my experience that 95% of the time, they work
[03:24] <DVA5912> mechtech: unfortunently not in this case :(
[03:24] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, for the most part they should be 644 (-rw-r--r--)
[03:24] <mechtech> dva5912: sorry i couldn't be of more help
[03:25] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: there's a program here that claims to support your printer; 30 day trial:  http://www.turboprint.info/  However, they want €29.95 for uit
[03:25] <mechtech> dva5912: what make/model printer?
[03:25] <arleslie> opengyan, then its not a ubuntu problem or a hardware issue, thats interfarance, there's something blocking your wifi signal to your office.
[03:25] <twig11> Seven_Six_Two: you've been a help. Thanks.
[03:25] <DVA5912> mechtech: Canon Pixma MP480
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> twig11, np
[03:25] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: seen on a forum:  I was able to get a Canon PIXMA MX860 All-in-One to print by setting it up as a PIXMA iP4600. To get it to work on the network, I built and installed cups-bjnp. Using the printer as an iP4600 shared via SMB from a Windows machine also worked.
[03:25] <opengyan> arleslie: oh ok....
[03:25] <Ghoti__> you could try a similar tactic
[03:25] <mechtech> dva5912: tried the Mac OS X drivers?
[03:26] <DVA5912> mechtech: you can use those?!
[03:26] <DVA5912> Ghoti__: ok when i get back into the live cd il try that
[03:26] <DVA5912> I didnt know you could use mac drivers in linux
[03:27] <paultanoz> i have a question, i try to play mms support tv on Totem, can someone tell me how it should work?
[03:27] <mechtech> dva5912: it's posible...back in 56k dial-up days...if I had a nic or modem that wouldn't work, I would use the US Robotics drivers for it...often worked...MAC OS X is free bsd kernel though, but still worth a try
[03:27] <DVA5912> its a bsd kernel
[03:27] <DVA5912> i didnt know that
[03:28] <eaglestar> alright i cannot see flash videos and could see them 2 days ago can someone help me to fix it?
[03:28] <mechtech> dva5912:  yeah...2002 they introduced OS X based on the free bsd kernel with a glitsy GUI named Darwin
[03:28] <paultanoz> i have a question, i try to play mms support tv on Totem, can someone tell me how it should work?
[03:28] <DVA5912> i dont know how much more of this vista i can take. it took two minutes to load up ie
[03:29] <^Sarah> DVA5912: I saw vista for the first time this week, my mom's new laptop has it... she's so mad at it. ;-)
[03:29] <DVA5912> mechtech: ok well im going to get into the live cd and see what i can do. thanks. Thanks Ghoti__!
[03:29] <DVA5912> ^Sarah: give her ubuntu?
[03:29] <DVA5912> :)
[03:30] <^Sarah> DVA5912: lol she didn't take to kindly to my mac, I think I will have a heck of a time convincing her of ubuntu
[03:30] <Ghoti__> DVA5912: good luck!
[03:30] <DVA5912> thanks
[03:30] <mechtech> ^sarah:  just boot her up to a live cd and let her use it...then we'll see
[03:30] <DVA5912> oooh. Good luck with that ^Sarah. try this though. Take her laptop and your ubuntu (if you have that) and run them side by side and show here
[03:31] <DVA5912> thats what i did with my mom
[03:31] <DVA5912> she loves ubuntu
[03:31] <arleslie> ^Sarah: you can downgrade to xp...
[03:31] <Seven_Six_Two> ^Sarah, I told my mom that I would fix her comp one more time (few years ago) and if she doesn't take linux, it would be the last time, She's called for help a few times, but didn't complain much.
[03:31] <Mannequin> hi. does anyone ever had a touchpad issue that has to be fixed adding "i8042.nomux" to the kernel line on grub?
[03:31] <mechtech> arleslie:  wouldn't really call that a downgrade...LOL
[03:31] <duckwars> is ssl, the only way to setup a password for an apache server?
[03:31] <^Sarah> Seven_Six_Two: LOL that's awesome
[03:31] <arleslie> mechtech, thats true
[03:32] <DVA5912> ok. well im outa here. going to reinstall ubuntu and give this vista to the dogs..
[03:32] <DVA5912> /me takes out the vista disk and calls over roudy to eat it
[03:32] <^Sarah> mechtech:  she saw ubuntu when my ibook died last week and I turned her old dell into this ubuntu computer :)
[03:32] <Seven_Six_Two> ^Sarah, I think you have to take in to account the user's skill level. She didn't really know how to use windows either (which is why she kept breaking it!) so it was an easy transition for her.
[03:32] <brummbaer> anybody know how to assign functions to media-buttons on a keyboard?
[03:33] <brummbaer> ^ubuntu 9
[03:33] <mechtech> ^sarah:  and she still prefers windows?
[03:33] <[R]> brummbaer: the keyboard shortcuts dialog in gnome lets you do that
[03:33] <^Sarah> mechtech: yeah, she's got a lot of windows dependent programs
[03:33] <Ghoti__> brummbaer: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[03:33] <brummbaer> oh spiff ty guys!
[03:33] <^Sarah> Seven_Six_Two: my mom is practically a hacker she's awesome
[03:33] <PROject-Emerald> What are the benefits of updating the Ubuntu kernel?
[03:34] <mechtech> ^sarah:  that's how they get you...hook you on the software
[03:34] <streblo> how do i downgrade python to version 2.5.1?
[03:34] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: fix exploits, fix bugs, new features
[03:34] <Seven_Six_Two> ^Sarah, well it might be frustrating for her at first then...knowing that you don't know is a rough place to be
[03:34] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: the same for updating anything
[03:34] <mechtech> ^sarah:  I'm still hooked on the games...so are my daughters
[03:34] <PROject-Emerald> Is it difficult? I made a 9.04 live disk when it first came out, do you think there's a new kernel out?
[03:34] <Paavi2_0> !offtopic
[03:34] <^Sarah> mechtech: lol yeah, not me though - I am only hooked on xbox and DS
[03:35] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: the update manager updates the kernel just like it updates antyhhing else
[03:35] <Seven_Six_Two> oops. np Paavi2_0
[03:35] <^Sarah> np! sorry
[03:36] <streblo> can i downgrade python with apt?
[03:36] <mechtech> me too *blush*
[03:37] <PROject-Emerald> [R]: Well, I have 2 frequently occurring problems and I figured maybe a kernel update would've fixed it
[03:37] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: you figured?
[03:37] <caffemisto> in completely removing proftpd from my server, i might've accidentally removed the proftpd command from /etc/init.d
[03:37] <PROject-Emerald> Yeah, because 9.10alpha fixed those problems I had
[03:37] <caffemisto> reinstalling proftpd did not bring it back LOL
[03:38] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: well w/o knowing what the "problems" are... saying 9.10 fixed it means nothing
[03:38] <PROject-Emerald> One is that the monitor will completely shut off / hibernate, killing everything I was doing forcing a hard restart to bring it back
[03:38] <caffemisto> so, how do i get proftpd command back into /etc/init.d?
[03:38] <PROject-Emerald> and the other one is the OS will crash and nothing will work / clickable, and the mouse is all jumpy also forcing a hard restart.
[03:39] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: your monitor shutting off isnt' going to kill anything
[03:39] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: 9.10 has alot of changes, specifically with power management and a new kernel series 2.6.30
[03:39] <[R]> neither of those sound too kernely
[03:39] <brummbaer> [R]: what if one of the media buttons doesn't seem to be getting picked up?
[03:40] <vancomycin> can someone direct me to the safest drivers or workaround for jaunty and old intel graphics drivers? i just updated and i can barely see anything on my screen. all the fonts /colors everything is out of control
[03:40] <PROject-Emerald> When I'm in the middle of some huge paper I have to finish, a hard restart really isn't too good.
[03:40] <[R]> brummbaer: then you'll have to map it... there are some docs on the ubuntu wiki about it
[03:40] <vancomycin> i'm not looking for editing scripts or anything. just anything official
[03:40] <PROject-Emerald> It doesn't come back on unless i either hold the power button down or unplug it.
[03:40] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: well if 9.10 works...
[03:40] <meanburrito920_> I'm having issues with firefox being recognized as my default browser. for example, when I select the "open link in browser" option for opening a link from Xchat, nothing happens. I get the same result with automated bug reports; they never open the browser like they should
[03:41] <PROject-Emerald> -_- someone told me not to update, that it's extremely buggy and will almost always crash
[03:41] <brummbaer> [R]: cool, thx. wasn't sure of the terminology to search for.
[03:41] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: This sounds to me like a power management proble, prob from hal since it was eliminated in 9.10
[03:41] <PROject-Emerald> Any way to fix it without updating?
[03:41] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: i use it off and on... i dindt notice it crashing horribly
[03:41] <administrator__> when connected to wifi, the notification area displays signal strength as 0, even though im connected and browsing web fine
[03:42] <[R]> PROject-Emerald: well if all your packaqges are updated... and you can't find anyone else with a similar problem and a solution... generally not
[03:42] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: I've used alphas on production machines and their of really good quality
[03:42] <[R]> administrator__: sounds like a crappy driver
[03:42] <masterkoppa> PROject-Emerald: Either way Good Luck with this issue
[03:42] <PROject-Emerald> Thanks -_-
[03:43] <administrator__> [R]: it worked fine yesterday
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: allright, i'm back
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: i can see the network in network manager
[03:43] <Cryptorchild> I have a problem with battery state, it could not read even it's plugged into AC power or running in battery mode, help??
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: it shows a signal strength
[03:43] <[R]> administrator__: weird
[03:43] <jwalsh> koro: but if i try to connect, it keeps asking me for auth and never actually connects
[03:44] <jwalsh> mmm. anyone wanna help me debug my network connection?
[03:44] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: can you confirm that the a/c was connected via an led licht in the laptop
[03:44] <jwalsh> as much as i hate myself for saying this, windows me was working better
[03:44] <administrator__> [R]: thanks anyways,
[03:44] <jwalsh> >.>
[03:45] <Cryptorchild> it did
[03:45] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: this happened to me once but it was a problem with the charger
[03:45] <Cryptorchild> I'm using 8.10 before and all running fine
[03:45] <Cryptorchild> so I think it's not the charger
[03:45] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[03:46] <administrator__> anyone else got an idea?
[03:46] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: Try doing a restart and retesting this to see if it happens
[03:46] <Cryptorchild> masterkoppa: I've try to run knoppix live-cd and voila the battery state could be read fine
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> masterkoppa: i've restart and shutdown dozens time
[03:47] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: this has to be a hal issue then
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> I'm using this 9.04 for almost a month
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> prolly
[03:47] <Cryptorchild> My lap: MSI Megabook S271
[03:48] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: Did this happen when you upgraded to 9.04 or just a few days ago?
[03:48] <Cryptorchild> some posts said by update the acpi package would resolve, but nothing happened here
[03:49] <administrator__> when connected to wifi, the notification area displays signal strength as 0, even though im connected and browsing web fine
[03:49] <Cryptorchild> I"m not upgrade, clean install and yes it wont work from beginning
[03:49] <[R]> administrator__: i already told you... crappy driver
[03:50] <konam> administrator__ i've seen that with some wifi networks nearby but not my own
[03:50] <administrator__> how do i reinstall the driver?
[03:51] <type_t> what driver
[03:51] <[R]> administrator__: this isnt' windows... reinstalling doesnt change anything
[03:51] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: I'm really out of ideas right now try searching the internet, not just the forums, for issues like this for your specific laptop model and see what comes up
[03:51] <administrator__> [R]: im sorry. im fairly new to linux
[03:52] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: I;ve personally installed Ubuntu in over 40 diferent laptops and I haven't seen this issue
[03:52] <type_t> do you know lsmod from your command line?
[03:52] <Cryptorchild> k, now it's frighten me
[03:52] <administrator__> type_t: no
[03:53] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: Did this work with the live cd?
[03:53] <type_t> whats the problem?
[03:53] <Cryptorchild> haven't notice it
[03:53] <administrator__> type_t: are u asking me?
[03:54] <Cryptorchild> masterkoppa: i'll try to boot from CD and paste the result later, thanks before
[03:54] <type_t> sure spit it out let me hear the story
[03:54] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild, np
[03:55] <LeChacal> hello, well this maybe a stupid question but do i have to install firefox3.5 maunally or will it come down as an up date for ff3.0?
[03:56] <BT-tux> Hi
[03:56] <[R]> LeChacal: there is a PPA for 3.5 i think
[03:56] <masterkoppa> !ff3.5 | LeChacal
[03:56] <administrator__> i am connected to wifi, the notification area where it shows signal strength appears as 0. when i hover over it the tooltip says connection active. when i click on the wifi bars, the current connection isnt highlighted as normal. worked fine for 3 months and today just quit on me
[03:56] <LeChacal> thank you
[03:56] <Cryptorchild> masterkoppa: my ati gpu doesn't work well with 9.04 either
[03:56] <masterkoppa> np
[03:57] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: yeah this is an issue with crappy ati drivers and the new xserver version
[03:57] <ddaygold> i need help setting up a static ip adress
[03:57] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: ati has allways had bad support for linux
[03:58] <wcryer> can anyone help me out i am very new to linux, ive got the wireless card on an ubuntu server seeing the network, but i cant connect, iwconfig comes up with all the details but ive got scratch
[03:58] <Cryptorchild> ooo
[03:58] <masterkoppa> Cryptorchild: BTW if im not on when you finish testing try pm'ng me on the forums bt the same name
[03:58] <Cryptorchild> ok thanks
[03:59] <ddaygold> i need help setting up a static ip adress on my desktop
[03:59] <brummbaer> so i'm trying to use keytouch-editor to straighten out the media files, but it asks for a scan-code? i've tried following instructions (pressing the key while in bash) and still not seeing any response...
[03:59] <brummbaer> *not media files but media-function buttons on keyboard.
[04:00] <type_t> you know how to run command  arp -D wifi0
[04:00] <administrator__> type_t: i can try
[04:00] <wcryer> nevermind
[04:01] <administrator__> type_t: it says unknown host
[04:02] <type_t> try arp alone and be sudo..
[04:03] <administrator__> type_t: that command only showed ethernet and no wifi
[04:04] <wcryer> whats the best gui for ubuntu
[04:04] <[R]> wcryer: huh?
[04:04] <wcryer> window manager maybe, like gnome is one i think
[04:05] <[R]> wcryer: there is no "best"... its wahtevef you like
[04:05] <administrator__> [R]: i think he means gnome, kde etc
[04:05] <masterkoppa> wcryer: this is dependent on your likes and dislikes
[04:05] <wcryer> ok if im new to linux and im trying to setup an old latop to be a file print server what would you recomment
[04:05] <wcryer> d
[04:05] <masterkoppa> wcryer: gnome
[04:06] <wcryer> is there a way to load it on without having to use a dvd
[04:07] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  netboot, if you cant boot from usb..
[04:07] <masterkoppa> wcryer: you can create a usb key with the live cd
[04:07] <Dr_willis> if you cant netboot.. well.. floppy disk? :) or put hd in a different box.. install.. replace..
[04:07] <wcryer> how about an external hd?
[04:07] <masterkoppa> same as usb boot
[04:08] <wcryer> right now its running mint off of a cd
[04:08] <wcryer> k ill see what i can do thanks
[04:08] <Dr_willis> running off a cd? then you can cd boot.. so whats the issue?
[04:09] <wcryer> i havent found gnome small enough for a cd
[04:09] <wcryer> it doesnt have a dvd player
[04:09] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  Huh?  what does havind a dvd player have to do with a file print server?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  I run gnome/ubuntu off my 4gb usb flash drive all the time...
[04:10] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  or the live cd..
[04:10]  * Dr_willis is confused
[04:10] <wcryer> im saying i cant use a dvd disc to get gnome
[04:10] <[R]> wcryer: who said you had to use a dvd?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> so.. err.. ubuntu comes on a cd iso as well. most people use the cd iso file..
[04:11]  * Dr_willis is still confused
[04:11] <wcryer> thats what i was trying before
[04:11] <wcryer> dont worry about it
[04:11] <Dr_willis> perhaps its time to go back to the original problem.
[04:11] <wcryer> i just need to know how to boot from an external hd now
[04:11] <Dr_willis> tell the bios to boot from it.. if it can
[04:11] <wcryer> does the image need to be the only thing on the hd
[04:12] <wcryer> for it to boot
[04:12] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  imnage? you dont boot a iso image file from a usb drive..
[04:12] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  you  have to some how install to the usb drive.
[04:12] <alex___> wcryer: Are you trying to put it on a usb key or onto an external HDD?
[04:12] <wcryer> dont have usb only external HDD
[04:13] <alex___> wcryer: Then I'm 80% sure you can just tell it to install to that hard drive.
[04:13] <alex___> wcryer: Boot into the live cd and install it to that external HDD
[04:13] <wcryer> what if there is other stuff on the HDD i need?
[04:13] <type_t> administrator so whats the device for your wireless
[04:13] <alex___> wcryer: Then either don't devote the whole HDD, or back it up first.
[04:14] <wcryer> gotcha
[04:14] <Andorin> I've had a problem for a while with my keyboard shortcuts. I ask for anyone who knows about them to look at this thread- and please actually read the OP. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214508
[04:14] <kjkjava> what are the numbers at the front of each line in dmesg?
[04:14] <wcryer> have you ever heard of apt-get to install a minimal version of gnome
[04:14] <[R]> kjkjava: relative time from bootup
[04:14] <wcryer> i just stumbled onto something that mentions that
[04:14] <kjkjava> [R], measured in seconds?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  i saw a 'minimal ubuntu/gnome' disrto variant on DisrtoWatch web site the other day.
[04:15] <[R]> kjkjava: sure
[04:15] <plaguehiv> can anyone help me to find some sick movies? extep for Martyrs, hostel 1-2 and the saw movies. any plz :P
[04:15] <plaseo> type_t: i think its a broadcom wifi card and a linksys router
[04:15] <kjkjava> [R], really accurate to six decimals?  a lot happens at 0.000000
[04:15] <PMantis> Hi! Does anyone have a good howto for installing DRDB on Jaunty? Installing drdb0.7-module-source  then using m-a is failing compile.
[04:15] <[R]> plaguehiv: and movies have what to do with ubuntu?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> wcryer:  I can get a full ubuntu install on a 6gb or so.. so  its rather small as it is. :) that one i saw was  under 800mb installed  i think
[04:16] <plaseo> type_t: srry my name changed, i dont know why it did that
[04:16] <alex___> plaseo: What about a broadcom wifi card and linksys router?
[04:16] <wcryer> think this will work
[04:16] <wcryer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155961
[04:16] <Dr_willis> wcryer:   whats your exact needs? im still muddy on that.
[04:17] <plaseo> alex__: notification area says signal strength is 0 even though im connected fine
[04:17] <type_t> plaseo you can change the wifi channel to trigger it to try to find a match to your AP and what type of signal
[04:17] <mcpancakes> the oddest thing has happened to me-- you know how file types are associated with programs so when you click them, ubuntu knows which program to open them in? or with text files, an icon will be a small preview of the first couple lines/letters of the file? oddly, my installation seems to have lost that ability. that is, every file is now the generic white piece of paper icon, and everything attempts to open in gedit.
[04:18] <wcryer> haha im not exactly sure, i want a simple interface for network manager so once i have the window manager it is easy to setup my wireless network to wpa again cause i had to turn it off cause i couldnt figure it out from the command line
[04:18] <type_t> wit command sudo iwconfig channel 11
[04:18] <masterkoppa> mcpancakes: ... now thats some bad stuff
[04:19] <chris__> i accidentally closed my bar menu on the bottom part of the screen, how do i get it back
[04:19] <masterkoppa> mcpancakes: what is messed up is called mime-types
[04:19] <type_t> but 11 has to be the channel the AP is using too.
[04:19] <masterkoppa> mcpancakes: try searching for ways to rebuild this index
[04:20] <masterkoppa> chris__ : do you mean the panel or the menu itself?
[04:20] <mcpancakes> masterkoppa: alright, thanks for pointing me in some direction.
[04:20] <masterkoppa> mcpancakes: np
[04:23] <plaseo> type_t: i dont know what channel it is using
[04:23] <alex___> Andorin: You still here?
[04:24] <Andorin> alex___: Yo.
[04:24] <hdon> hey, rhythmbox doesn't support .pls playlists that streaming radio often uses. what gives?
[04:24] <alex___> Andorin: Have you tried System -> Keyboard Shortcuts and manually putting in the buttons?
[04:25] <Andorin> alex___: Yes. Did you check the first post of the thread I linked to?
[04:25] <type_t> the Acces Point you mean? well when you do sudo iwconfig wifiblah0 channel 2 and keep doing it 1- 11 you should cycle up until it lets you know.
[04:25] <alex___> Andorin: Yup, I did.
[04:25] <NOM1> Im Having an issue with 'FireFox v3.0.
[04:26] <Andorin> alex___: Well, I've already gone through what seems to be the standard troubleshooting- the shortcuts menu, xev, etc. Some guy in IRC concluded that something is intercepting specific key presses.
[04:26] <felipe__> Guys, I'm brazilian. I try to configure my keyboard correctly but I couldn't. I try to change the language in login, but there is no portuguese option. Should I install any package?
[04:26] <alex___> Andorin: I couldn't tell with how you said it if you had gone into that menu and tried to set them up
[04:26] <NOM1> Having an issue with 'FireFox v3.0, would anyone be able to give me a hand??
[04:26] <lstarnes> NOM1: what issue?
[04:27] <koro> felipe__: where do you go to change the keyboard settings?
[04:27] <Andorin> alex___: Alright, my bad. Also, I am positive this is not a hardware issue: it's across two separate computers and changing the shortcuts to something other than their little hotkeys doesn't fix it.
[04:27] <plaseo> IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"SSIDPS3"  Nickname:""
[04:27] <plaseo>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:21:29:D9:DE:71
[04:27] <plaseo>           Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:32 dBm
[04:27] <plaseo>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[04:27] <plaseo>           Power Managementmode:All packets received
[04:27] <plaseo>           Link Quality=5/5  Signal level=-53 dBm  Noise level=-95 dBm
[04:27] <FloodBot1> plaseo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <simonh> hey
[04:28] <johnny5> I'm using ubuntu and I have been trying to get hulu to work. I've installed flash but it doesn't seem to be working can anyone help me?
[04:28] <alex___> Andorin: And the fact that it works in xev suggests it's not hardware =P
[04:28] <Andorin> alex___: That too. =P
[04:28] <simonh> I know this may sound odd but I can't click in ubuntu
[04:28] <NOM1> lstarnes:when i try to log into my school account, it gives me an error message, "Unable to connect to host - Session: Unable to connect to host:  hydra.sheridaninstitute.ca
[04:28] <simonh> left click and tapping touchpad select nothing but right click works
[04:29] <NOM1> lstarnes:when i try to log into my school account, it gives me an error message, "Unable to connect to host - Session: Unable to connect to host:  hydra.sheridaninstitute.ca
[04:29] <felipe__> koro: System --> Keyboard (or something like that)
[04:29] <koro> yeah
[04:29] <bullgard4> What does the letter 'f' stand for in the command 'fuser'? Is it 'file'?
[04:29] <apoleo12> Why am I getting quite a few keys that arent in the right charater for each key in bash?
[04:29] <lstarnes> NOM1: I saw the first time.  please refrain from unnecessary repeating
[04:29] <koro> felipe__: there's no portuguese option there/
[04:29] <koro> ?
[04:30] <lstarnes> NOM1: it looks like that host is down
[04:30] <lstarnes> NOM1: or otherwise inaccessible
[04:30] <NOM1> lstarnes: i can log in via IE8 (Vista), right now.
[04:31] <plaseo> appearently my wifi is on eth1
[04:31] <lstarnes> NOM1: is that part of a local school intranet?
[04:31] <felipe__> koro: I have a laptop with a USA keyboard...
[04:31] <unkmar> My pulseaudio has crapped out.
[04:31] <koro> felipe__: i don't get it then
[04:31] <koro> felipe__: you want an usa keyboard that works like a brazilian one?
[04:31] <NOM1> lstarnes: i am logging in from my home right now, no special security or software required.
[04:31] <unkmar> I need to restart it.  I attempted: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[04:32] <unkmar> I also tried independant. stop and start.  That didn't work.
[04:32] <wcryer> i just installed gnome using apt-get and rebooted but still have the command line. how do i start it?
[04:32] <lstarnes> NOM1: I'll try with a different browser
[04:32] <felipe__> koro: yes....I remember i have to change the language in session
[04:32] <NOM1> lstarnes: ok
[04:33] <alex___> wcryer: Um... are you using Ubuntu Server?
[04:33] <wcryer> yeah
[04:33] <lexxy> hi all
[04:33] <rojas> holaaaa
[04:33] <alex___> wcryer: Did you get the X window session thing?
[04:33] <lstarnes> NOM1: same error
[04:33] <lexxy>  I need some help with an AR 9170 driver install
[04:34] <wcryer> alex__: whats that
[04:34] <lexxy> basically I want to know how I can activate the card
[04:34] <Ganymede> hi, i'm trying to set up my ubuntu laptop as a wireless router. i'd like it to be key-free, e.g. anyone can connect (yes, i know the dangers of this, i know what i am getting into), here is my current /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/d4fe0d64c but after doing sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, i try to connect to the AP, which shows up in a scan from another computer, but says it's WPA2
[04:34] <type_t> do sudo iwconfig eth1 up promisc
[04:34] <lstarnes> NOM1: can you try reloading it in IE8?
[04:34] <type_t> do sudo ifconfig eth1 up promisc sorry
[04:35] <alex___> wcryer: X session is what Gnome or KDE or xfice etc runs in
[04:35] <rojas> hi i have really problem whit xubuntu?
[04:35] <apoleo12> Does anyone have problem with characters in bash?
[04:35] <lstarnes> rojas: that's not a question
[04:35] <rojas> who sould help me? please
[04:35] <wcryer> alex___: ok how do i get that
[04:35] <NOM1> lstarnes: i just logged in via IE8.
[04:35] <lstarnes> rojas: we need to know what the problem is before we can help you
[04:36] <alex___> wcryer: That depends... how did you install gnome? lol
[04:36] <felipe__> koro: It works! install these packages language-pack-pt language-pack-pt-base. Thanks
[04:36] <lstarnes> rojas: what problems are you having?
[04:36] <rojas> first, how can i mount the windows files in desktop
[04:36] <wcryer> alex___:sudo apt-get -y install gnome-core gdm network-manager-gnome fast-user-switch-apple
[04:36] <lstarnes> NOM1: are you absolutely sure that you're not using some sort of intranet with IE8?
[04:36] <greengiant> rojas: mount a file??? do you mean a windows partition on a harddrive???
[04:37] <alex___> wcryer: then just type /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:37] <koro> felipe__: you did it yourself :)
[04:37] <NOM1> lstarnes: im sure, i have not made any changes to either laptop. This problem just started as soon as i updated FireFox.
[04:37] <rojas> yes cuz of i know how to find them with nautilius
[04:38] <lstarnes> NOM1: I checked another site and it's reporting that hydra.sheridaninstitute.ca is down too
[04:38] <wcryer> alex___: it says command not found
[04:38] <rojas> but i want to put it in mty desktop when i begin my xubuntu
[04:38] <rojas> that can be posible?
[04:38] <duckwars> Is there any very simple way to add a password to my apache server?
[04:39] <NOM1> lstarnes: could it possibly have something to do with some sort of network settings that may have changed on my laptop??
[04:39] <alex___> wcryer: Then try sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core then try the other command again
[04:39] <JoAnneThrax> I just booted with my laptop connected to my external monitor for the first time, and everything is "squashed" on both monitors.  How do I fix this?
[04:40] <plaseo> type_t: command did nothin
[04:40] <iJerk> JoAnneThrax, Explain "squashed"
[04:40] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Do you have the nvidia or ATI control centers?
[04:40] <wcryer> alex___: still doesn't like it after that x-window thing runs through fine
[04:40] <donavan_> can anyone tell me how why my when I copy audio files to my mp3 player it gets them all out of order even if I copy them one at a time in order
[04:40] <JoAnneThrax> alex: ATI
[04:41] <rojas> hiii!!!
[04:41] <alex___> wcryer: Hmm... have you tried rebooting after installing gnome?
[04:41] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Do you have CCC installed though?
[04:41] <quinton> Anyone here familiar with networking(bridging) ?
[04:41] <iJerk> donavan_, Rename your Audo Files to include numbers?  01-iJerk.mp3 -- 02-iCry.mp3 -- etc?
[04:41] <JoAnneThrax> iJerk: everything is "stretched" horizontally more than it was...
[04:41] <wcryer> alex___: yeah maybe again after what i just did, ill let ya know
[04:41] <lstarnes> NOM1: it depends on what your settings were before
[04:41] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: I'm not familiar with CCC
[04:42] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: How did you install the ATI Drivers?
[04:42] <lstarnes> NOM1: but I think the site is most likely broken right now
[04:42] <maccam942> is there a way to change the LCD backlight level on the command line?
[04:42] <alex___> quinton: Um... what are you trying to do? I may be able to help
[04:42] <maccam942> the hal script seems to have died
[04:42] <iJerk> JoAnneThrax, If you're talking about your wallpaper... Everything but wallpaper... then that's normal.
[04:42] <user01> hey when i am a user and i try to switch to another account the x-terminal switches to 640x480
[04:42] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: They installed when I installed the OS.  Just a second; I'll check the card-type
[04:42] <JoAnneThrax> iJerk: No, not the walpaper.
[04:43] <quinton> alex__, im not sure how to send a pm back =/
[04:43] <user01> and i cant change it in the other account
[04:43] <NOM1> lstarnes: alright, thanks for the help. i was just finding it really odd that i could not access it with FireFox but could with IE8.:-/
[04:43] <rojas> i need to know how can i mount the windows particion on my desktop on xubuntu?
[04:43] <rojas> help me please
[04:43] <lstarnes> NOM1: IE8 might be caching something
[04:43] <alex___> quinton: It's not a PM, just if you use the other persons nick in the message, it triggers a highlight to make the other person able to see it easier.
[04:43] <NOM1> lstarnes: true
[04:43] <lstarnes> NOM1: otherwise, it not working in firefox but working in IE wouldn't make much sense
[04:44] <JoAnneThrax> I'm tallking about EVERYTHING.  The little square icons in Windowmaker, for example, are no longer squares
[04:44] <wcryer> alex___: still doesn't like that, what am i trying to do so i can search for something
[04:44] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: If you haven't manually installed the drivers, then you don't have them... Go to ATI's website and install the latest drivers
[04:44] <quinton> alex___: ah okay mb. I need to bridge my Xbox 360 and my ubuntu install. I've done it on Windows many times
[04:44] <iJerk> !ics > quinton
[04:44] <JoAnneThrax> Video card's ATI Mobility RADEON® HD 3670 - 512MB2
[04:44] <alex___> wcryer: Your trying to run an X Session and Gnome Desktop Manager
[04:44] <quinton> alex___: I've got it working about half. I can get the bridge up and my xbox connected but ii lose connection on my pc
[04:45] <NOM1> lstarnes: i was able to access it a couple of weeks ago, this is an odd problem. something very stupid, probably.
[04:45] <user01> is it a gdm issue?
[04:45] <JoAnneThrax> alex____: they've been working fine for the last five days...it's only when I plugged in the HD external monitor that it's squashed everything (on both)
[04:46] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: Given that do you still think it's a driver issue?
[04:46] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: You've been running it as if you've been running Windows in "VGA Mode"... you only have basic use of the card, not all the functions.
[04:46] <winda> silver anggel
[04:46] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: Ah...
[04:46] <quinton> alex___: However, when I run commands to set the default gateway on my pc and dhclient eth0, I can get internet access for about a second or two on my pc then it drops back out
[04:46] <user01> can you fix it for the next release?
[04:46] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: I think the first thing to try is the driver. if that doesn't work we can try something else.
[04:47] <alex___> quinton: So... are you saying your having problems with the internet all together, or just to the xbox?
[04:47] <user01> or is it an issue with the proprietary nvidia driver that wouldnt be?
[04:47] <quinton> alex___: Well with the bridge up, my xbox works, not my pc. With the bridge down, pc works but not xbox(internet connection i mean)
[04:47] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: should I get the linux x86_64 version?
[04:48] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Did you install the 64 bit or the 32 bit OS?
[04:48] <JoAnneThrax> The processor's 64 bit; I'm assuming ubuntu could determine?
[04:48] <alex___> quinton: Hmm... that's odd lol. Sorry, I'm not sure what to tell you
[04:48] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: What ISO did you download?
[04:48] <JoAnneThrax> It didn't give me the option of chosing it manually...
[04:48] <JoAnneThrax> Uh...ISO?
[04:48]  * JoAnneThrax did a network install...
[04:49] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Oh...
[04:49] <JoAnneThrax> Is there a way I can tell which is installed?  It seems to recognize the full 4GB of RAM...
[04:49] <quinton> alex___: Like when i use konsole:  inup br0 , my xbox connects fine. but my pc internet is down. so i use sudo route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 then dhclient eth1 and my internet works for like 2 secs then quits while my xbox remains connected. it's weird.
[04:49] <lstarnes> JoAnneThrax: uname -m
[04:50] <JoAnneThrax> Okay.  It's the 64
[04:50] <JoAnneThrax> Just a minute.  I'll download...
[04:50] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Kk.
[04:50] <alex___> Thanks lstarnes =)
[04:50] <phpDEMON> how do you use ext4 on jaunty
[04:51] <alex___> quinton: How is your modem xbox pc etc connected together?
[04:51] <jorknow> hey all. anyone a little familiar with Wine and such?
[04:51] <alex___> jorknow: Somewhat, what's up.
[04:51] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: I don't see my particular card listed...
[04:52] <trainer> can i have an advice, for setting squid on ubuntu server 8.04
[04:52] <jorknow> alex___: I'm trying to use Palringo, and it installed fine, but the font interface on it is HORRIBLE. I'm wondering if Ubuntu could be messing with the fonts, or if its Wine it's self
[04:52] <donavan_> iJerk I tried that I have them named 1,2,3,4,5..... and then wind up in the player as 4,3,5,2,1.... its making me crazy cause im trying to listen to audio books and the order is kind of important
[04:52] <Dr_willis> trainer:  what sort of advice? squid is not too hard to get going.
[04:53] <quinton> alex___: Yeah, the ethernet from my pc connects to the back of my pc.  I use my windows mobile internet connnection sharing as a usb modem for my internet
[04:53] <alex___> jorknow: http://appdb.winehq.org/ you can look up the program here and find out more about if it works in wine
[04:53] <LacobF> How do I fix my software sources, or find the list of default ones.
[04:53] <jorknow> it says it works fine.
[04:53] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: The ATI Radeon HD 4670 one should do you
[04:53] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Wait
[04:54] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Sorry, misread your gfx card... hang on
[04:54] <alex___> quinton: Sorry m8... I have no idea why it's doing that
[04:54] <quinton> alex___: Yeah. I have one idea of what  might be causing it I'm going to try. Thanks anyway :)
[04:54] <trainer> where is to find whole script about squid.conf?
[04:54] <apoleo12> Why are the characters are different in bash than in Xwindows bash?
[04:55] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: It's an ATI Mobility...there's an ATI Radeon HD 3xxx series, but I'm not seeing that under ATI Mobility...
[04:55] <Dr_willis> apoleo12:  what characters? you mean the fonts? console vs xterm or gnome-terminal?
[04:55] <apoleo12> pls help me with this one?
[04:55] <quinton> alex____; if you get a sec to look and see if i did something wrong, i have a forum post up: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219742
[04:56] <trainer> Dr_willis: where is to find whole script about squid.conf?
[04:57] <tuxwulf> Can I get rid of the menu 'Places'...?
[04:57] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Hmm... then go System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[04:57] <Dr_willis> trainer:  i would check the file for comments.. and the squid docs, and theres proberly a dozen  web sites that discuss  configring it for specific tasks.
[04:57] <lstarnes> tuxwulf: I don't believe that's possible
[04:58] <tuxwulf> ... too bad...
[04:58] <Ghoti__> Can anyone tell me why some entries in the same .XCompose file work on one system but not on another?
[04:58] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: And select the ATI/AMD Proprietary Graphics Driver thing and enable it.
[04:58] <lstarnes> tuxwulf: why would you need to disable it?
[04:58] <trainer> Dr_willis: it's about configuring bandwidth limiter on my local network
[04:58] <tuxwulf> Istarnes > ... Just not useful.
[04:58] <tuxwulf> For me.
[04:58] <trainer> using single ISP
[04:59] <Dr_willis> trainer:  i would have to say check the squid docs/forums - ive never done that. no idea if its even doable.
[04:59] <trainer> ok thank you
[04:59] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: I suppose there's no way to do that without rebooting into gnome or somesuch...
[05:00] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Your not in Ubuntu right now?
[05:01] <JoAnneThrax> Yes, I'm in ubuntu; I'm just not running the default windows manager.
[05:01] <SnakDoc> whats best way to image your system for quick recovery ?
[05:01] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Then which are you running?
[05:01] <JoAnneThrax> Windowmaker
[05:01] <Dr_willis> JoAnneThrax:  most all gnome apps can run in windowmaker.
[05:02] <JoAnneThrax> Okay...what's the app called?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> JoAnneThrax:  app to do what? :)
[05:02] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: It's just called Hardware Drivers
[05:02] <ARMENIAN> why doesnt ubuntu have audacious version 2.1 in the repo? the version it has is 1.51
[05:02] <Dr_willis> the hardware-drver tools' cli command is 'jockey-gtk'
[05:02] <Dr_willis> i think
[05:02] <Dr_willis> !find jockey
[05:02] <quinton> ARMENIAN: did you upgrade your repository with sudo apt-get?
[05:02] <JoAnneThrax> ARMENIAN: same reason it doesn't have Firefoxz\ 3.5
[05:02] <Dr_willis> and ive NO idea why its called that.
[05:02] <jedi06> how do i see all the wireless routers and their channels they broadcast on?
[05:03] <ARMENIAN> JoAnneThrax: and what reason is that? :)
[05:03] <jimk> JoAnneThrax: jockey-gtk is what you are looking for
[05:03] <ARMENIAN> quinton: sudo apt-get update? yeah
[05:03] <JoAnneThrax> Okay...it's downloading and installing already.  It prompted me right away.
[05:04] <quinton> ARMENIAN: yeah you might have to add auacious's repository if they have one. Speaking of old old-dated stuff in there, they have a really old version of wine too(wasn't aware until I found out today). Do you know anywhere to report outdated software in the repository?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> JoAnneThrax:  its magical! :)
[05:04] <JoAnneThrax> Well, it SAYS it's downloading and installing.  Still at 0%, however
[05:04] <mazda01_> trying to connect to user level security smb share where the password has a ! and a @ in it. how would I do this from mac os x? i have tried surrounding the password both single quotes and double quotes and neither have worked. I have to enter something like this: smb://user:password@host/share    but I can't figure out how to enter the password.
[05:04] <jedi06> how do i see what channel all the wireless routers i'm picking up are broadcasting on?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> quinton:  ubuntu dosent consider that a bug. it updates everything eveyr 6mo (approxamatly)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> quinton:  if you want the latest wine - use the winehq repos.
[05:05] <Madpilot> quinton, you could file a bug, but version updates are only done per release - every six months
[05:05] <JoAnneThrax> When (if) it downloads and installs, will I still have to do some manual configuring?
[05:05] <quinton> madpilot: oh wow D:
[05:05] <ARMENIAN> quinton: nah no clue hwere to report :( odd that ubuntu is the most popular rep yet so many things are outdated and yes i did know about wine being outdated, anyway I'm probably just gonna get the package from getdeb.net
[05:05] <Dr_willis> quinton:  also ive heard some games dont work as well with version .25 of wine..  they work better with the .24 version  (no idea why, just learned it from reading some forums)
[05:05] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: It should get you CCC with it, reboot... if your still having troubles try the settings in CCC
[05:06] <JoAnneThrax> It's still at 0%...that can't possibly be good...
[05:06] <mazda01_> Madpilot: however. some people who are ambitous create PPA's and update a package version but you can start breaking stuff on accident if you use PPA's that have uipdated versions. sometimes that is.
[05:06] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: Just run "CCC" at a commandline?
[05:06] <juanbond> hey guys, is there a way to automatically start remote desktop when the machine boots?  the only reason why i ask is if i reboot my machine, i need to login first, then remote desktop starts to listen.  i was wondering if there's a way for it to listen before a user logs in?
[05:06] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: It's amdcccle
[05:06] <Madpilot> mazda01, true. I use PPAs for a couple of apps, myself
[05:06] <quinton> Dr_willis: Yeah I got the latest today. This isn't my gaming rig, got a quadcore with a 9800gtx+ running windows for that :P. Do you have any clue on getting photoshop running perhaps? I have CS4 and crashes at splash screen.
[05:06] <juanbond> or is there another solution to remotely manage my machine, besides ssh.
[05:06] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: And that's a video configuration app?
[05:07] <SnakDoc>  whats best way to image your system for quick recovery ?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> juanbond:  if you dont want to share the current visiable desktop. you can just use 'vnc4server' or 'tightvnc' and have a  remote desktop running.. thats NOT displayed locally.
[05:07] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Yeah. But you might not have any problems at all after reboot
[05:07] <Dr_willis> juanbond:  or set up gdm to autologin :)
[05:07] <JoAnneThrax> Will that let me do things like set it up for dual monitor and the various resolutions and all that...
[05:07] <quinton> ARMENIAN: yeah same. I used OpenSuse 10.2 for about a month then went back to windows and just came back. YasT always seemed updated though. Apparently they only update them every six months.
[05:07] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Yup. all that
[05:07] <JoAnneThrax> Oh, good...it started downloading.
[05:07] <mazda01_> Madpilot: yeah. I have used it for pulseaudio, docky, and some others. haven't had any troubles as of yet. do you know how to connect to a smb password share where the password has punctuation in it?
[05:07] <JoAnneThrax> I'm going to reboot.  BRB
[05:07] <juanbond> Dr_willis, is that something like how Terminal Services work for Windows?
[05:07] <Madpilot> mazda01, no idea, never used smb
[05:08] <jedi06> how do i see what channel all the wireless routers i'm picking up are broadcasting on? so i can set mine to a different channel
[05:08] <ARMENIAN> quinton: hmm, yeah I might even give archlinux a try too, ubuntu has been good for me as a beginner, but this whole everything being outdated is not too good
[05:08] <Dr_willis> juanbond:  no idea. i dont use that for windows.. I just have used vnc a LOT over the last few years... its a very flexiable tool. and shareing the 'currently displayed desktop' is just ONE way of using it to get a 'remote' desktop. and my least favorite way to use it.
[05:08] <mazda01_> jedi06:  what is your wireless interface? ath0, wifi0 or what. i can tell you a command to run which should show you the  channel each router is on
[05:09] <jedi06> yes please
[05:09] <quinton> ARMENIAN: Have you used Opensuse? It has a really good setup for KDE, if you haven't tried it yet. I'm on Kubuntu, not Ubuntu as I can't stand GNOME :p. Honestly, if I need something bad enough like an app i'll go to their website and make sure its the latest version, but i wish they upgraded it on the fly.
[05:09] <Dr_willis> juanbond:  you can install vnc4server. edit the .vnc/xstartup and then 'ssh' into the server. start 'vncserver' then connect via a vnc client. No need for  a local running gnome session at all. :) and the desktop will be persistant.  You can  close the vnc viewer and reconnect at a later time.. or from a differnt box.
[05:10] <mazda01_> Dr_willis: i use x11vnc to log into my already logged in sesison. I love it. I ssh in first, then create a tunnel for x11vnc. it's great.
[05:10] <bullgard4> What does the letter 'f' stand for in the command 'fuser'? Is it 'file'?
[05:10] <jedi06> mazda01, it is either eth0 or eth1
[05:10] <jedi06> probably eth1
[05:10] <rojas> sorry disk manager is in repositori?
[05:10] <ARMENIAN> quinton: yeah I've given opensuse a try, I'm the complete opposite of you when it comes to guis, I can't stand KDE :P part of the reason i couldnt deal with openSUSE :P
[05:10] <JoAnneThrax> alex___, et. al.: thank you very much!
[05:10] <Dr_willis> mazda01_:  thats just one way to use vnc...  i never use x11vnc i find it slower.. but im on a local lan. so i never need to tunnle either.
[05:10] <JoAnneThrax> It seems to be working fine.
[05:10] <mazda01_> jedi06: that can't be your wireless connection, at least I don't think it can. eth0 and eth1 are normally your ethernet card, not your wireless card. what does lspci -v return>?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> mazda01_:  if on a local lan. you can also use 'xming' on windows to export the X desktop/apps to appear on your windows machines. :)
[05:11] <mazda01_> Dr_willis:  what vnc server is faster and that allows you to see the current users session?
[05:11] <quinton> ARMENIAN: :O! KDE is so amazing =[. KDE4 is really intuitive and fun to use :p
[05:11] <bullgard4> '~$ man umountfs; No manual entry for umountfs.' Why is there no manual page for umountfs?
[05:11] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Sorry I led you in circles trying to make sure you got the newest driver =P
[05:11] <novalys> blist
[05:12] <Dr_willis> mazda01_:  i fimd shareing the current session slows them all down.. the only 2 that i see that can do that are x11vnc and the built in gnome one.. there may be others.. I rarely use it that way
[05:12] <mazda01_> bullgard4: can;t you just check the man page for umount?
[05:12] <alex___> quinton: Have you tried LinuxMINT?
[05:12] <apoleo12> Why does in bash have different keymappings than in X?
[05:12] <jedi06> mazda01, it is eth1
[05:12] <juiceejuice> is anyone running 2.6.31 with iwlagn driver on karmic or otherwise?
[05:12] <jedi06> 802.11 WiFi (eth1)
[05:12] <mazda01_> Dr_willis:  oh, i see.
[05:12] <quinton> alex___: Nah. I saw it mentioned once, no clue what it is.
[05:12] <alex___> quinton: Supposedly they are supposed to have more updates than any other distro
[05:13] <ARMENIAN> quinton: I've actually installed KDE over gnome on my ubuntu install to give it a try, and it's more resource intensive and it actually crashed my video card or something whenever i would minimize and maxamize things really fast or do somehting only slightly graphics card intensive, with gnome i dont have that problem
[05:13] <novalys> Hello, I got a silly question... Where can I change the number of virtual desktops on the new Ubuntu 9.04? I'm not able to find this...
[05:13] <mazda01_> jedi06:  then run this: iwconfig -i eth1 scanning. I think that's the command
[05:13] <jedi06> just tell me how to discover what each wireless router chanell is
[05:13] <bullgard4> mazda01_: I did not say that I cannot. But this does not answer my question.
[05:13] <ARMENIAN> alex___: ive tried linuxmint, didn't like it too much
[05:13] <alex___> novalys: One option is to right click on your virtual desktops on your menu bar and select preferences
[05:14] <alex___> AREMENIAN: I never actually installed it, just put it on my usb key once lol
[05:14] <quinton> alex___: Meh. I like Kubuntu a lot, and the outdated repositories don't bother me too much. Although I was bit upset when I couldn't get WINE working with Digsby and turns out I didn't have the right WINE version :p
[05:14] <JoAnneThrax> okay...here's something...
[05:14] <quinton> ARMENIAN: I'm assuming your PC is lackluster then haha
[05:14] <JoAnneThrax> The external monitor is, theoretically, 1920x1080...
[05:14] <alex___> quinton: I gotta agree with ARMENIAN... I'm a gnome fan =D and my comp has great hardware, so that isn't the prob =P
[05:14] <mazda01_> what does my id_rsa key have to have for owner:group and permissions. I can't seem to get it to work on my mac even though the same key works for my other linux and windows machines.
[05:14] <novalys> alex___: I tried that, It only gives my a Columns and rows option, even when I change the number they are still only 2.. :(
[05:15] <ARMENIAN> quinton: nah, it's not too shabby built it 3.5 years ago ati 3200, 1 gig ram, x800gt, 1tb HD, 320 GB HD
[05:15] <quinton> ARMENIAN: I've always come from windows, and I would consider KDE as an Aeroish interface, way more stylish and looks fantastic but is more resource intensive, but GNOME is like the old windows 98, ugly but quick
[05:15] <alex___> novalys: There isn't a number of Workspaces option on yours??
[05:15] <Bossman> hello all can i get some help plz
[05:15] <JoAnneThrax> ...but in amdcccle, it only lets me choose a 1366x786 desktop size...
[05:15] <mazda01_> bullgard4: i don't know what umountfs is for anyway. sorry
[05:15] <mazda01_> Bossman: just ask your question.
[05:15] <SnakDoc> whats best way to image your system for quick recovery ?
[05:15] <novalys> alex___: nop.. I google this before comming here all info. point that same direction but mine isn't showing that.
[05:15] <bullgard4> mazda01_: Ok.
[05:16] <jedi06> mazda01, nope unknown command eth1
[05:16] <alex___> novalys: Now THAT is wierd...
[05:16] <quinton> alex___: I just couldn't do it. I mean look at this screenshot of tweaking the plasma for like an hour: http://i25.tinypic.com/2e1hc3q.jpg .. That's just sexy.
[05:16] <JoAnneThrax> Do I have to install xinerama separately in order to do the dual-desktop thing?
[05:16] <ARMENIAN> quinton: i don't think gnome is too ugly :P just simpler
[05:16] <novalys> alex___: It's a 64bit fresh installation
[05:16] <mazda01_> SnakDoc:  in ubuntu, I use sbackup. it's got a gui, easy to use and I have done a restore from it before. or you could just tarball everything up also. there are so many guides, just gogle backup ubuntu and you'll find tons.
[05:16] <alex___> quinton: Is that AWM?
[05:16] <ARMENIAN> quinton: KDE seems like an easier switch for someone who likes the Windows look
[05:17] <Bossman> okay and am trying to change the owner on a folder and the files in the folder and i did chown but it only changed the main folder
[05:17] <quinton> alex___: AWM?
[05:17] <Manneequin> Hi anyone knows how to install ubuntu on mac ?
[05:17] <ARMENIAN> quinton: all the icons and everything were really big, taking up more screen space it seems :P
[05:17] <quinton> ARMENIAN: I come from Windows :p. Namely, Windows 7. I'm used to it looking good.
[05:17] <blognewb> hey guys
[05:17] <jedi06> i get a Link Quality:2  Signal level:177  Noise level:176
[05:17] <mazda01_> JoAnneThrax: are yo running the proprietary nvidia driver or do you have another video card? because I have found nvidia-settings sets up dual screen or twinview super easily.
[05:17] <jedi06> that bad?
[05:17] <mazda01_> jedi06:  so it doesn
[05:17] <SnakDoc> mazda01_ i know they on google but was wanting to find someone that has used a certain app i just don't want to  have to download everything again lol
[05:17] <mazda01_> 't show the channel?
[05:17] <quinton> ARMENIAN: My panel at the bottom I made big as a dock of sorts, it had the default kde tiny panel at the bottom
[05:18] <JoAnneThrax> mazda01: proprietary AMD/ATI
[05:18] <ARMENIAN> quinton: yeah  i actually was using Windows 7 shortly before switching to ubuntu, WIndows 7 isn't too shabby itself
[05:18] <alex___> quinton: Isn't that panel at the bottom AWN?
[05:18] <alex___> quinton: Isn't that panel at the bottom AWM?
[05:18] <mazda01_> SnakDoc: i said I use sbackup. very easy app to use.
[05:18] <ARMENIAN> quinton: different tastes, different tastes
[05:18] <quinton> alex___: It's just a regular Panel thru KDE, you can tweak the height and width and whatnot on the fly
[05:18] <alex___> quinton: There is a program called AWM you can use in gnome that looks exactly like that
[05:18] <mazda01_> can anyone please tell me what the owner:group and permissions are suppose to be for a private key?
[05:18] <ARMENIAN> quinton: u can do it in gnome also :)
[05:19] <legend2440> Bossman: chown -r  will change owner of folder and any files inside
[05:19] <Bossman> ty legend2440
[05:19] <JoAnneThrax> and is it limiting me to 1366x768 on the external only because I'm currently mirroring the laptop's native display (which is only that size)?
[05:19] <ARMENIAN> gnome has more users overall I beleive, correct?
[05:19] <quinton> ARMENIAN: Yeah MS definitely got W7 right, but it can't hold a candle to Kubuntu from what I've seen. The only thing keeping me from using Kubuntu full time is Photoshop(I'm a web designer D:) and this network bridge
[05:19] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: You have to make them seperate desktops to make them seperate resolutions =(*
[05:19] <mazda01_> ARMENIAN: i would say gnome has more users, that's my opinion.
[05:19] <JoAnneThrax> alex: ah.  Got it.
[05:19] <quinton> alex___: I like all my animations like the cover flow alt-tab, the desktop cube, the wobbly desktop. I'm a flashy guy :P
[05:19] <SnakDoc> mazda01_ thanks :)
[05:19] <alex___> quinton: Compiz + AWM + Emerald FTW
[05:20] <blognewb> hey guys what do these lines do::-> touch /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
[05:20] <blognewb> apt-get update
[05:20] <blognewb> apt-get -u upgrade
[05:20] <ubuntu> oops wrong channel :P
[05:20] <blognewb> ??
[05:20] <alex___> quinton: You can do all that in Gnome
[05:20] <ubuntu> btw im racecar56
[05:20] <ARMENIAN> quinton: if I'm gonna get windows 7 I'm gonna bootleg it :P , for that reason I'm using Ubuntu
[05:20] <alex___> quinton: That is Compiz
[05:20] <blognewb> exactly what does it try to upgrade?
[05:20] <quinton> alex___: Tbh, KDE is built in :p
[05:20] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: I'm currently VGAed to the external; I'm getting an HDMI cable in a few days.  Should the ATI/ubuntu be able to figure out what's going on without me having to do much of anyt'ing?
[05:20] <ARMENIAN> quinton: either wine or dualboot
[05:20] <iceroot> quinton: you can run photoshop with linux (wine)
[05:20] <dpreacher> does dmesg output get reset on every boot or is there something left from previous bootups?
[05:20] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Theoretically. I've never actually tried it, but it should =P
[05:20] <quinton> ARMENIAN: You know the release candidate is a legit release and is legal to use until march 2010 right?
[05:21] <alex___> quinton: All you have to install in gnome is the settings manager
[05:21] <mazda01_> blognewb: touch simply creates a blank file, apt-get update will update apt-get with all the packages in the repositories that you ahve defined and I am not sure what the apt-get -u aptitude does. perform man apt-get and see for yourself.
[05:21] <quinton> iceroot: Can't get CS4 to boot right. Crashes on splash screen
[05:21] <quinton> alex___: Amarok. xD
[05:21] <alex___> quinton: huh?
[05:21] <mazda01_> dpreacher: i think dmesg is redone after every boot but I am not sure.
[05:21] <ARMENIAN> quinton: u get more of the flashy stuff in gnome with compiz and it uses less resources :P plus more advanced
[05:21] <iceroot> quinton: using wine 1.x? beacuse of the possibility to run photoshop, wine was using a new version number (1.x instead of 0.x)
[05:21] <quinton> alex___: Amarok is KDE only, right?
[05:22] <alex___> quinton: No...
[05:22] <ARMENIAN> quinton: yeah, but whose gonna deal with all the cd key games they play :P
[05:22] <quinton> ARMENIAN: w/e :p
[05:22] <quinton> iceroot: I think that was CS2 only. I haven't got CS4 running with the latest release.
[05:22] <ARMENIAN> quinton: as long as we're on linux :P
[05:22] <alex___> quinton: you can run 99% of KDE apps on gnome and 99% of gnome apps on KDE lol... TBH which manager you use really doesn't matter anymore these days... the only diff is the default settings ;)
[05:22] <JoAnneThrax> CCC is telling me that I have only on desktop enabled, and I can't configure xinerama until I've Configured another in the Display Manager...
[05:22] <quinton> alex___: Good to know, I wasn't really aware :P
[05:23] <JoAnneThrax> Where, prey tell, is the display manager? :)
[05:23] <quinton> ARMENIAN: exactly :D
[05:23] <iceroot> quinton: if i am correct als photoshop-versions are running but but never tested, because i am not a designer and gimp + inkscape are ok for me
[05:23] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Um... halfway up the screen in CCC =P
[05:23] <quinton> iceroot: Ugh. GIMP. I tested PS4 a lot, I've used Winetricks and nothing has worked.
[05:23] <dpreacher> mazda01_ i was thinking so too...i see some ipv6 audit messages everytime from named, whereas i have disabled ipv6 lookups on bind. so I'm just checking why the problem persists and how recent was the last entry. coz each time there are like 564 entries.
[05:24] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: Oh...that.  I looked at that.  I can't tell where to set it to two desktops...
[05:24] <iceroot> quinton: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14318  running (status gold)
[05:24] <bullgard4> '~$ man umountfs; No manual entry for umountfs.' Why is there no manual page for umountfs?
[05:24] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Click on it, then beside properties, click "Multi-Display"
[05:25] <blognewb> Do you guys recommend installing ISPConfig 2 or 3? Is it true that 3 is still unstable?
[05:25] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: Then change that setting to Single(Independent Display)
[05:25] <melik> whats a good tool to mass convert images from CLI?
[05:25] <iceroot> melik: imagemagik
[05:25] <rojas> hi every body
[05:25] <mazda01_> does anyone know how to find out my username in mac os x? it's weird because I changed it from my full name to my first name in the users within preferences but at the command prompt it still says my full name.
[05:25] <quinton> iceroot: I read that, I did everything except idk how to gdiplus override
[05:25] <bullgard4> What does the letter 'f' stand for in the command 'fuser'? Is it 'file'?
[05:26] <rojas> i install disk-manager
[05:26] <iceroot> melik: imagemagick
[05:26] <JoAnneThrax> alex___: It's not giving me that option...
[05:26] <rojas> and when i click it it says There are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount or unmount.
[05:26] <rojas> Contact your administrator.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> fuse - file system in user space ? or  is that just a similer named thing?
[05:26] <alex___> JoAnneThrax: o.O?
[05:26] <rojas> what can i do?
[05:26] <tkmr> JoAnneThrax: You have the latest version of CCC right?
[05:26] <rojas> how can i use it
[05:27] <rojas> please
[05:27] <quinton> iceroot: Ah okay I found it: winetricks -q gdiplus . DO i just put that in konsole?
[05:27] <rojas> hi
[05:27] <JoAnneThrax> There's a "display configuration" box under "Multi-Display", but it just says "unknown"
[05:27] <alex___> Anyone have any ideas why when I try to change my password it just keeps having the loading mouse icon and never changes?
[05:27] <JoAnneThrax> tkmr: I ought to.  The computer is less than a week old.
[05:27] <iceroot> quinton: sorry dont know, wine was working fine for my needs so i never used winetricks
[05:27] <Jeruvy> rojas: sorry, do not use 'enter' key for punctuation.  What is the problem?  One line please.
[05:27] <quinton> iceroot: I think I figured it out. Thanks.
[05:28] <jedi06> iwlist eth1 scan says inteface doesn't support scanning
[05:28] <wizzo50> rojas: install gparted
[05:28] <alex___> quinton: Winetricks?
[05:28] <ARMENIAN> wow i had to manually install like 7 dependencies just to install audacious
[05:28] <alex___> Is there a max password size in ubuntu or something?
[05:28] <quinton> alex__:Hm?
[05:28] <alex___> quinton: What's winetricks?
[05:28] <blognewb> Do you guys recommend installing ISPConfig 2 or 3? Is it true that 3 is still unstable?
[05:28] <jedi06> iwconfig says eth1 is IEEE 802.11  that is the only one with wireless extensions
[05:28] <blognewb> oops
[05:28] <bullgard4> System > Administration > System Monitor > Processes shows a column 'Waiting Channel'. What is a 'waiting channel'?
[05:29] <tkmr> alex___: Not AFAIK. How long is your PW?
[05:29] <rojas> ok i want to put the windows paricion on my desktop on xubuntu
[05:29] <quinton> quinton: Winetricks is like an addon for wine that will allow you to download things that windows applications need with just a few commands
[05:29] <alex___> tkmr: The one I'm trying to change it to is... 18 characters long
[05:29] <quinton> alex___: Winetricks is like an addon for wine that will allow you to download things that windows applications need with just a few commands
[05:29] <alex___> quinton: I see...
[05:29] <rojas> but, let me try with gparted
[05:29] <rojas> thanks wizzo58
[05:29] <quinton> alex___: For example "sh winetricks dotnet20" would fetch and install MS .NET Framework 2.0
[05:30] <quinton> alex___: or "sh winetricks ie6" for IE6
[05:30] <alex___> quinton: Nice!
[05:30] <tkmr> alex___: If there is a max character limit you haven't hit it. My pass is 20 characters. =)
[05:30] <wizzo50> rojas: sure
[05:30] <mazda01_> jedi06:  if it doesn't support scanning than you wireless card doesn't support in my experience. you typed in sudo iwlist eth1 scan?
[05:30] <rojas> and thanks jeruvy
[05:30] <JoAnneThrax> Okay...
[05:30] <alex___> tkmr: IDK it won't change it to that, so I wondered if there was a max of like 15 or something
[05:30] <mazda01_> jedi06:  i mean. sudo iwlist eth1 scanning?
[05:30] <JoAnneThrax> I don't know what I did, but now the Display Manager has a rectangle with "2:1" in it in the big blank space above everything else...
[05:31] <tkmr> alex___: If there is a max character limit it's higher than 20 characters.
[05:31] <darlykaiser> hey guys
[05:31] <mazda01_> darlykaiser: high.
[05:31] <alex___> tkmr: Then any ideas why I can't change my pass? =D lol
[05:31] <tkmr> alex___: Maybe a file is corrupted or something of the like?
[05:32] <darlykaiser> i need a good page that explains me well about how to erase ubuntu 9.04 to install ubuntu 8.10
[05:32] <JoAnneThrax> Oooh.  I made CCC segfault
[05:32] <iceroot> alex___: what is passwd ginving as error?
[05:32] <mazda01_> anyone know how to connect to a smb share that has a password with punctuation in it? it's something like smb://user:password@host/share   but my password has an @ as well as a ! so it's not working. pleas ehelp
[05:32] <jedi06> yup just figured out need sudo
[05:32] <alex___> iceroot: It isn't... it's just sitting there and the mouse has the loading icon on
[05:32] <iceroot> darlykaiser: just install 8.10 and use the partition from 9.04
[05:32] <iceroot> alex___: passwd has no gui and so no mouse icon
[05:33] <iceroot> alex___: just type passwd in the shell
[05:33] <jedi06> Quality:2/5  Signal level:-78 dBm  Noise level:-30 dBm
[05:33] <alex___> iceroot: I was using the gui lol
[05:33] <rojas> sorry but i can use gparted in xubuntu? isnt it just for gnome desktop?
[05:33] <SnakDoc> mazda01_ try "" around it be only guess i have
[05:33] <mazda01_> darlykaiser: just pop in 8.10 and install it over 9.04. it's simple. especially if you don't need to save anything from 9.04 install. just overwrite it.
[05:33] <iceroot> rojas: yes, you can
[05:33] <darlykaiser> I did but i want to rid ubuntu 9.04 out my laptop
[05:33] <rojas> thanks. :)
[05:33] <mazda01_> rojas: you can install gnome or kde apps in xubuntu and about 99% of the time they work because they install the gtk or kde libs with the apps.
[05:34] <mazda01_> darlykaiser: if you installed 8.10 OVER 9.04 then 9.04 isn't on your system anymore.
[05:34] <apoleo12> Why is  my question being ignored?
[05:34] <alex___> iceroot: Ok... if I do it in there it says my new pass must be diff than my old one??
[05:34] <iceroot> rojas: you can use every-app (kde, gnome, xfce4) with every desktop (kde, gnome, xfce4) just have to install some specific libs sometims (apt-get will do that for you)
[05:34] <darlykaiser> how i can do this?
[05:34] <mazda01_> rojas: you could also boot up gparted live cd, and run it that way.
[05:34] <Jeruvy> !repeat | apoleo12
[05:34] <wizzo50> rojas: then you will have to setup Virtual Box and reset iup your WIndows on there. That is what I was showed last week when I did it after setting a partion up on gparted in the Terminal
[05:34] <chenmin> hen
[05:34] <iceroot> alex___: of course it must be different. passwd, then type your old one and two times the new one
[05:34] <chenmin> 有人马
[05:35] <alex___> iceroot: I did
[05:35] <apoleo12> ubottu: ok ill repeat it then
[05:35] <mazda01_> iceroot: i find aptitude to better at installed dependencies than apt-get. i have been aptitude for a long time versus apt=get
[05:35] <alex___> iceroot: and they are different... but apparently it thinks they aren't
[05:35] <apoleo12> Why are the characters are different in bash than in Xwindows bash?
[05:35] <dpreacher> mazda01_ got timestamps from /var/log/messages
[05:35] <lstarnes> apoleo12: what do you mean by that?
[05:35] <mazda01_> dpreacher: what about time stamps?
[05:36] <iceroot> mazda01_: apt-get moo   vs aptitude moo -v   you will see what is better (aso try -vv -vv and so on) :)
[05:36] <dpreacher> timestamp syslog adds at the instant the entry is logged
[05:36] <iceroot> mazda01_: -vv -vvv -vvvv and so on i mean
[05:36] <mazda01_> apoleo12:  what do you mean different characters, can you upload an image to imageshack and share with us>
[05:36] <dpreacher> mazda01_ timestamp syslog adds at the instant the entry is logged
[05:36] <apoleo12> When Im in xterm (bash) and type some command containing these characters as [] {} \ etc etc... but when I go into bash pressing  ctrl+alt f2 then those chars are all over the place
[05:37] <dpreacher> thanks mazda01_ for your time
[05:37] <darlykaiser> mazda_01: how can i install ubuntu 8.10 over 9.04?
[05:37] <mazda01_> no one uses smb://  to connect to a password protected share that has punctuation in it?
[05:37] <apoleo12> mazda01: ok IIll do that way... but it going to take a bit... brb then
[05:37] <iceroot> darlykaiser: as i told you, insert the 8.10 cd and choose the partition from 9.04 to install on
[05:37] <rojas> ok now i install gparted
[05:38] <iceroot> darlykaiser: it will override 9.04
[05:38] <mazda01_> darlykaiser: just pop in the 8.10 install cd, and go through the install process and just chose to use the hard drive you want by deleting the old partitions and creating new ones. simple.
[05:38] <rojas> and it says that i have to be root
[05:38] <JoAnneThrax> CCC doesn't seem to be giving me any option to set up more than one desktop...
[05:38] <iceroot> rojas: gksudo gparted
[05:38] <wizzo50> sebsebseb: Hi, you anywhere around?
[05:38] <NickDeNeger> y
[05:39] <zopiac> swfplayer gives me a segmentation fault, does anyone know how to fix>?
[05:39] <mechtech> is there any way to launch a windows executable?
[05:39] <[R]> zopiac: file a bug report
[05:39] <iceroot> !wine | mechtech
[05:39] <[R]> mechtech: you can use wine
[05:39] <NickDeNeger> mechtech: use wine
[05:39] <darlykaiser> even if it is a guided one?
[05:40] <mazda01_> zopiac: have you run it from the temrinal and looked at the output to see where it's segfaulting?
[05:41] <jerc> some one helpme with mysql
[05:41] <iceroot> jerc: #mysql
[05:41] <mazda01_> darlykaiser: i don't remember the options but just tell it you want to use the existing hard drive that 9.04 is installed on and it should wipe out the old partitions and create new ones.
[05:41] <iceroot> jerc: or is it a ubuntu-question like installing mysql?
[05:41] <mazda01_> darlykaiser:  i think guided will do a dual boot setup because it doesn't think it should delete the other ubuntu install.
[05:41] <pete_> hello all
[05:41] <mechtech> thanks iceroot and nickdeneger
[05:41] <zopiac> mazda01_: http://pastebin.org/3711
[05:42] <jerc> iceroot:is about programing in mysql
[05:42] <pete_> is possible to video chat in ubuntu to say dell video chat
[05:42] <stea> i just installed ubuntu 8.0.4 hardy heron. how can i: 1. search for my home wireless network? 2. enable my wireless adapter?
[05:43] <iceroot> jerc: then try #mysql
[05:43] <rojas> when i open g parted this appear about windos particion The enclosing drive for the volume is locked.
[05:43] <darlykaiser> so there is another way to do this?
[05:43] <JoAnneThrax> no one has any ideas?
[05:43] <rojas> what can i do?
[05:43] <mazda01_> zopiac: i have no idea. i don't use that program. do you have X running? meaning are you in a gui like KDE or GNOME or XFCE?
[05:43] <juanbond> Dr_willis, ou still around?
[05:43] <rojas> or waht do that mean?
[05:43] <mazda01_> JoAnneThrax: i thought I answered you. what was your question?
[05:43] <jerc> iceroot:yes but i have a problem with the channel
[05:43] <crunchbang> sup dogs
[05:43] <iceroot> jerc: you have to register in freenode
[05:44] <jerc> yes
[05:44] <JoAnneThrax> mazda01: CCC is not allowing me to configure multiple displays.
[05:44] <juanbond> After following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5229232&postcount=458, whenever I connect to the instance on display: 1, I only see a gray background with my cursor just being an X.  Am I missing something?
[05:44] <iceroot> jerc: /msg NICKSERVE help   if i am correct
[05:44] <jerc> iceroot: :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[05:44] <rojas> hey
[05:44] <stea> i typed iwconfig and see no wireless extensions
[05:44] <lstarnes> jerc: /msg nickserv help register
[05:44] <mazda01_> JoAnneThrax: i asked what video card you're running.
[05:44] <lstarnes> jerc: also, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[05:45] <mazda01_> stea: did you install the module for your wireless card properly?
[05:45] <NickDeNeger> somehow courier doesn't have a listening port, authdeamon is running though
[05:45] <lstarnes> jerc: you will need to verify your account using a code that will be sent to you by email when you register
[05:45] <mechtech> how do I handle a stopped job?
[05:45] <jerc> m right
[05:45] <[R]> mechtech: handle?
[05:45] <mechtech> so I can exit terminal
[05:45] <mechtech> yeah...what do I do?
[05:45] <NickDeNeger> !courier
[05:45] <stea> i typed lscpci and i see my atheros 802.11abg wireless adapter on the list. mazda01 : no i just did a brand new installation of hardy LTS desktop
[05:45] <JoAnneThrax> mazda01: ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3670-512MB
[05:45] <[R]> mechtech: just type exit
[05:46] <darlykaiser> mazda_01: so there is another way to do this?
[05:46] <mechtech> can't it tells me there are stopped jobs
[05:46] <iceroot> mechtech: stopped = stopped, maybe you mean paused job?
[05:46] <[R]> mechtech: so type it again
[05:46] <mazda01_> stea: have you tried to bring up the wireless interface? i don't think iwconfig will show you any interfaces of wireless unless they are in use. I just tried iwconfig on my mac and despite me having a airport card, it returned no wireless extensions.
[05:46] <stea> and mazda01 : those are two commands i just found from google but they didnt help
[05:46] <mazda01_> stea:  because I am using ethernet at the moment.
[05:47] <mechtech> iceroot: andrew@DaddyVaio-Ubuntu:~$ exit
[05:47] <mechtech> exit
[05:47] <mechtech> There are stopped jobs.
[05:47] <user430> having trouble getting usb zip  drive to mount
[05:47] <pete_> good night all
[05:47] <stea> mazda01 : ethernet hard cable works . i unplugged it.
[05:47] <[R]> mechtech: like i said, do it again
[05:47] <mechtech> iceroot: then another command prompt
[05:47] <AA78> check permissions
[05:47] <stea> mazda01 but i dont know how to bring up the wireless interface
[05:47] <AA78> in /media
[05:47] <mechtech> [R]:  ok
[05:49] <mazda01__> stea: have you gone in to system, admin, networking to activate your wireless card? what does lspci -v return for wireless cards?
[05:49] <neozonz> I jsut installed sshguard
[05:49] <neozonz> and i can't see it as being installed other then in the package manager...
[05:50] <mazda01__> neozonz: sometimes apps don't put themselves into the menu. you run it from the terminal or add it to the menu, if you;re running gnome then go to system, prefs, main menu. what does sshguard do anyway?
[05:50] <JoAnneThrax> mazda01: these other folks were just kind enough to walk me through installing the (with jockey-gtk)...but even in amdcccle, I can't figure out how to configure the dual display.
[05:50] <neozonz> mazda01: it helps against brute force attacks
[05:51] <JoAnneThrax> the proprietary driver
[05:51] <neozonz> mazda01: but the funny thing is I can't see it in terminal anywhere, i even tried locate sshguard
[05:51] <stea> mazda01 : all i see from network settings in that path are just wired connection and point to point connection (both are faded out) and lspci : shows an atheros communications INC AR5416 802.11abgn wireless pci adapter
[05:51] <zopiac> mazda01_: sorry, had to go AFK for a bit; yeah i have X running
[05:51] <mazda01__> neozonz: i use denyhosts for that. it adds offending ip addresses to my hosts.deny file and they;ll never get in. it gets the offending ips from auth.log. try that. it's very easy to use and install.
[05:51] <k3Rn> hi
[05:51] <k3Rn> i just updated virt-manager to version 0.7.0. - i also installed virtinst 0.400.3 (think this is required for the new version).
[05:51] <k3Rn> i can start virt-manager, it seems to be working but when i try to create a new virtual machine i can't go further then step 1 - the forward button is greyed out...
[05:51] <k3Rn> can someone help me with this? is it not properly installed/updated?
[05:51] <FloodBot3> k3Rn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:52] <neozonz> mazda01: thanks :)
[05:52] <k3Rn> oh sorry - did you guys got my last three line?
[05:53] <mazda01__> neozonz:  np. the default config works out of the box I am pretty sure, you can change the values to make it more strict if you want. like you can make it so after 2 failed attempts it will add the offending ip to the hosts.deny file. just check out /etc/denyhosts.conf. i think that's what the file is named.
[05:53] <majnoon> is there a way with apt-get you can just upgrade files (foe EXAMPLE update eg kernel 1.2 to 2.6 AND mc .1 to mc1 ) at SAME time after it checks for updates
[05:53] <mazda01__> k3Rn: don't know what virt-manager is so I can't help, sorry
[05:54] <wizzo50> I need some help on, Running Windows VISTA on Virtual Box. Here is an Imageshot of the error.   http://img401.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img401/6085/screenshotr.png
[05:54] <mazda01__> anyone use smb://user:password@host/share to connect to a samba share where the password has punctuation in it?
[05:54] <k3Rn> virt-manager is a frontend for managing qemu/kvm virtual machines...
[05:54] <sparr> how can I change how KDE apps launch URLs (using kfmclient) when I am not running KDE?
[05:55] <stea> and mazda01 - there is no wifi switch on this laptop, my card is a pcmcia cardbus dlink (atheros) dont see any wireless networking options in the network section - only wired and point to point, both of which are faded out unless i unlock them it appears
[05:55] <stea> mazda01 - the dlink card led lights are flashing though
[05:55] <darlykaiser> thanks to all
[05:56] <darlykaiser> bye
[05:56] <mazda01__> stea: if you;re sure you have an atheros card then it should work. what does this return.  lsmod | grep ath
[05:56] <wizzo50> I need some help on, Running Windows VISTA on Virtual Box. Here is an Imageshot of the error.   http://img401.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img401/6085/screenshotr.png
[05:56] <stea> but i dont know how to search or find networks
[05:56] <rojas> my friends what is better to use? apt-get or aptitude ? or they are the same things?
[05:57] <mazda01__> stea: we need to first find out if your card has the correct modules loaded for it. what does the exact lspci -v return for the wireless card?
[05:57] <gane> the creative webcam of live Im pro is not supported  in ubuntu what to do?
[05:57] <mazda01__> rojas: aptitude. that's my opinion.
[05:57] <blognewb> Hello, What is a reverse DNS? Should I enter the domain name i recently registered and bought?
[05:57] <[R]> gane: if its not supported, you should get a new oen
[05:57] <rojas> anybody speak spanish? sorry
[05:58] <mazda01__> gane: buy a  new one but first be sure to goggle your head off.
[05:58] <gane> [R], is there any driver
[05:58] <jerc> si
[05:58] <jerc> yo
[05:58] <jerc> hablo español
[05:58] <DellaDuck> :)
[05:58] <[R]> gane: you jjst said it wasn't supported
[05:58] <gane> mazda01, my question is not the buying the new one .. is there support for this webcam or not ..
[05:58] <[R]> gane: you shodul'nt make statements if you don't know them to be correct
[05:59] <rojas> hey amigo tu sbaras como puedo montar la particion de windos directamente en el escritorio de xubuntu q cuando inicie mi escitorio aprezca alli
[05:59] <rojas> sin tener q buscarla ni nada
[05:59] <wizzo50> Can I get some help on, Running Windows VISTA on Virtual Box. Here is an Imageshot of the error.   http://img401.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img401/6085/screenshotr.png
[05:59] <rojas> se podra o no hay manera?
[06:00] <Jeruvy> !es | jerc
[06:00] <bullgard4> System > Administration > System Monitor > Processes shows a column 'Waiting Channel'. What is a 'waiting channel'?
[06:01] <stea> mazda01 - network controller : Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11 abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01) Subsytem: D-Link System Inc Unknown Device 3a6e. Then there are things for Flags/Memory at 3800000 32-bit non-prefetchable / disabled ] and capabilities <access denied>
[06:01] <blognewb> TTL  what is the ideal TTL value?
[06:01] <gane> [R], my friend had logitek webcam and it was supported in ubuntu .. i thought ubuntu will support for all type of webcam
[06:01] <gane> now you are asking me to go for new one
[06:01] <wizzo50> Any help out there with Virtual Box
[06:01] <stea> mazda01 : is that what you wanted?
[06:01] <[R]> gane: there is only support for hardwaare that drivers exist
[06:01] <phreak_> gane: there is no guaranteed support for ALL webcams
[06:01] <rojas> hey jerc? me podras ayudar amigo¿
[06:01] <mazda01__> gane: you just need to goggle the exact webcam model and see if you find any posts about it running in ubuntu. that's your best bet.
[06:02] <mazda01__> stea: ok, one second. let me gogle it.
[06:02] <[R]> bullgard4: if its blocking... that column tells you what its blocking on
[06:02] <Dday> i just downloaded songbird from getsongbird.org what do i do next?
[06:02] <gane> phreak_, i didnt google .. is there driver for this model or not
[06:02] <Interphase> lol, I just went into a Best Buy and asked for a linux install disk
[06:02] <iFuzo> Dday: Are you trying to install it?
[06:02] <bullgard4> [R]: Thank you for explaining.
[06:02] <phreak_> Dday you run the executable in the folder after extracting it
[06:02] <Interphase> they said that they had yewboontoo but not red hat
[06:02] <jerc> rojas:si dime
[06:03] <Interphase> it turned out they were out of stock of yewboontoo
[06:03] <Interphase> but don't worry, more were on the way
[06:03] <mazda01__> stea: what is the model number of the d-link? is it a DWA-645?
[06:03] <jerc> rojas:que se te ofrece
[06:03] <wizzo50> Guess no help out there
[06:03] <rojas> q si hay manera de montar la particion de windows directamente en el escritorio de ubuntu,
[06:03] <rojas> xubuntu perdon
[06:04] <phreak_> or you can make a menu entry for it using system -> Pref -> Main Menu
[06:04] <Fruktsoda> Hey guys! May i ask how i uninstall Ubuntu?
[06:04] <uknow> yeah i cant see my logon screen it tell me mode not supported but if i type in user and password it log on and i can see the desktop
[06:05] <Fruktsoda> Hmm that sounded weird hehe
[06:05] <Neroon> wizzo50: How about you just state your qestion, instead of asking if anybody knows the answer to your not yet stated quetion?
[06:05] <iFuzo> Dday: If its a .deb installation you can install it than view it via Applications > Sounds and Videos
[06:05] <Fruktsoda> I mean, how i delete a partition in Ubuntu
[06:05] <stea> mazda01. thanks for your patience. it is a DWA-652
[06:05] <rojas> es q se lo quiero configurar a mi tia de esa manera pero no se como hacerlo ya q ella es demasiado novata en cualquier sistema operativo y quiero colocarle la particion directamente en el escritorio de manera q no deba buscarla ni montarala
[06:05] <Jeruvy> !english | rojas
[06:05] <mazda01__> stea: bad news, it works but only at 11mbps. here's a guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=668272   just follow it. it says you can use ndiswrapper or native madwifi driver but have to compile from source. give it a shot.
[06:05] <gane> phreak_, the webcam is not mine . its from office .. if we get support we ll use the ubuntu .. otherwise ..
[06:06] <rojas> sorry friends
[06:06] <Fruktsoda> Thanks guys i found out myself hehe =)
[06:06] <wizzo50> Neroon: I already have many times.  Can I get some help on, Running Windows VISTA on Virtual Box. Here is an Imageshot of the error.   http://img401.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img401/6085/screenshotr.png
[06:06] <mazda01__> Fruktsoda: you don't really uninstall it. you can delete the partitions that hold it. what OS do you want to use in it;s place?
[06:06] <phreak_> iFuzo, songbird is not an actual program you 'install'
[06:06] <ibuclaw> Fruktsoda, boot up into your Ubuntu LiveCD, Go to 'System->Preferences->Partition Manager' and delete the Ubuntu Partition, and resize the NTFS to fill out the whole drive (or create a new partition in it's place) and Click 'Apply' to action it.
[06:06] <stea> mazda01 - what does that mean? i just can't start surfing wirelessly? :(
[06:06] <Zajjko> I see you are talking about wifi-issues already, how nice : )
[06:06] <jerc> siiii
[06:07] <jerc> rojas:si hay forma
[06:07] <jerc> rojas:dame un momento
[06:07] <stea> mazda01 - i don't understand about the compiling from source either
[06:07] <phreak_> gane, what is the exact make and model of the webcam?
[06:07] <mazda01__> phreak_: what do you mean, songbird is an app I installed.
[06:07] <mazda01__> phreak_: i asked him that. don't know if he answered though
[06:07] <The_Warlock> i am unable to access ubuntuforums on my firefox
[06:07] <Interphase> well that's ironic
[06:07] <iFuzo> phreak_: Which is what I just said. You can use the .deb download and install it than you can view it via sounds & video
[06:07] <ibuclaw> Fruktsoda, actually ... then boot into the Windows Installer CD and you should see a 'Recovery Mode'
[06:07] <mazda01__> stea: apparently not. did you run that command I asked you to run?  lsmod | grep ath_pci
[06:07] <gane> phreak_, its a "creative live cam Video IM pro"
[06:08] <uknow> can any one help me install with display problems
[06:08] <phreak_> Oh ok. sorry. i just thought it was easier to run the executable
[06:08] <Neroon> wizzo50: So you inserted your vista disc, started up virtual box and that was the error?
[06:08] <ibuclaw> Fruktsoda, I can't remember the exact command in Windows, but I think you run:  fixmbr
[06:08] <mazda01__> uknow: what kind of display problems?
[06:08] <phreak_> Do they have a .deb for songbird now?
[06:08] <gane> phreak_, the model no is  VF0230
[06:08] <wizzo50> No, I didn't have the disc in. Is that what I need to do?
[06:09] <mazda01__> ibuclaw: fixmbr will fix the mbr so that it boots using windows boot manger again I am ptetty sure.
[06:09] <bodhizazen> cariboo907 ?
[06:09] <ibuclaw> mazda01, aye
[06:09] <uknow> i cant see my login screen after boot monitor say mode not supported  but when i type in user and pass it login and i can see the desktop
[06:09] <Neroon> wizzo50: How do you expect to install a system if you dont put it in your disc tray?
[06:09] <ibuclaw> bodhizazen, :)
[06:09] <DVA5912> how do i go about making a user part of the webserver stuff? i installed an ftp server got it using the system usernames and ive created a new webmaster account. got it linked to its user direcorty of var/www but apperantly it cant do anything. So i guess im asking how do i give it permission
[06:09] <DVA5912> Neroon: hard disk cloning:D
[06:09] <Neroon> wizzo50: Virtual Box is trying to look for a bootable disk
[06:10] <stea> mazda01 : i typed that command like you said "lsmod | grep ath_pci" and nothing happened
[06:10] <mazda01__> gane: here ya go: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-607309.html
[06:10] <wizzo50> Neroon: I already installed it I thought
[06:10] <uknow> i think i have the wrong driver for my card
[06:10] <Zajjko> What if a wireless network-adapter (USB-stick) is recognized, connects to my wireless network, gets an IP, can PING to another computer on the network but cannot PING to an external address and cannot access neither webpages nor the routers web-configuration utility?
[06:10] <mazda01__> stea: ok. type modprobe ath_pci and tell me what happens. you might need to run it with sudo in front
[06:10] <DVA5912> ive added the user to the www-data group but that didnt help
[06:10] <Zajjko> This works on a wired connection on the same computer, btw
[06:11] <phreak_> gane, check this post --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-607309.html
[06:11] <mazda01__> Zajjko: it's because your dns servers aren't defined.
[06:11] <mazda01__> phreak_: beat ya to it. ha he ha he
[06:11] <Zajjko> I've opened resolv.conf and added "nameserver (my isp's DNS-servers)
[06:11] <Neroon> wizzo50: Hm. You sure about it? Well. Let's start again: You start up Virtual Box, select your installed os (vista) and start it?
[06:11] <DVA5912> wtf
[06:11] <gane> phreak_, ok ,after checking, i ll be back ..
[06:11] <DVA5912> watchout
[06:11] <savid> I noticed that my laptop has been getting extremely hot.  Ubuntu doesn't seem to be controlling the fan correctly. Any ideas on what I can do to fix it?
[06:11] <phreak_> mazda01 lmao. I didnt notice
[06:11] <talsemgeest> I have a lot of txt files in a directory, named 001.txt, 002.txt... 220.txt. Is there any way I can remove the leading zeroes from the front of the file names?
[06:11] <DVA5912> delladuck it being a noob hacker
[06:11] <stea> mazda01 : both commands in terminal don't do anything for me
[06:11] <mazda01__> Zajjko: that's weird that it works on the wired connection but not the wireless connection. what does cat /etc/resolv.conf return??
[06:12] <wizzo50> Neroon: I put the disc in and loaded THe Virtual Box and got the same error
[06:12] <Zajjko> at first it only returned "nameserver (my routers IP)"
[06:12] <mazda01__> talsemgeest: there is a bulk renamer in xubuntu. let me find out what the command is, one second.
[06:12] <Neroon> wizzo50: Just a sec. Havent installed VB here, need to start my other pc
[06:12] <bodhizazen> 'lo ibuclaw =)
[06:12] <Zajjko> mazda01__: Then I tried editing it and add my isps' DNS-addresses as well
[06:13] <mazda01__> Zajjko: yeah, that can be a problem as some routers don't properly forward dns reqeuests properly. I always use opendns in my resolv.conf file
[06:13] <wizzo50> Neroon: Right after I put the Vista disc in, it made an Icon on my desktop called UDF Volume
[06:13] <wizzo50> Neroon: ok
[06:13] <ibuclaw> bodhizazen, been using your flamethrower today?
[06:13] <mazda01__> Zajjko: did that work?
[06:13] <DVA5912> what group do i have to be in, in order to write/read to /var/www
[06:13] <bodhizazen> Oh yes ibuclaw , I do so like roasted coffee beans =)
[06:13] <uknow> anyone know if its possible to install a sis mirage 3 video chipset
[06:14] <Zajjko> mazda01__: Do you mean using openDNS or the ping requests? (I'm at work currently, sorry - not at the actual computer)
[06:14] <stea> mazda01 : will updating to 8.10 Help?
[06:14] <bodhizazen> DVA5912, sudo -i or www-data
[06:14] <mazda01__> Zajjko: you can also add dns servers in your interfaces file located in /etc/network/  . i think you add them like this: dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220  after your other interfaces info
[06:15] <DVA5912> bodhizazen: well its already part of www-data. and its not getting sudo
[06:15] <mazda01__> Zajjko: i mean I use opendns dns servers as shown in my previous post. they are in the interfaces file as well as the resolv.conf file.
[06:15] <Zajjko> ahh, so you have to add DNS:es to both the resolv.conf and interfaces?
[06:16] <DellaDuck> DVA5912: Can you please stop spam me in Q.
[06:16] <mazda01__> Zajjko: you shouldn't have to but I have and I don't have a problem with dns resolution
[06:16] <DellaDuck> What's your problem anyway?
[06:16] <DVA5912> DellaDuck you shouldent have started it
[06:16] <DellaDuck> Start what DVA5912?
[06:16] <DVA5912> bs
[06:17] <DellaDuck> Please, get yourself together man ^^
[06:17] <duckwars_> why can't I remove a file starting with "." with the straight up rm command?
[06:17] <bodhizazen> DVA5912, your user needs to be in the group www-data
[06:17] <DellaDuck> Your such a dramaqueen, threating me in query and shit.
[06:17] <lstarnes> duckwars_: you should be able to.  What was he error?
[06:17] <Zajjko> mazda01__: Thanks! I'll try that when I get home. The weird thing is that wired connections work. However, that could still be an issue with DNS-forwarding from the router and that it just has issues with forwarding them on the wireless interface
[06:17] <Ghoti__> DVA5912:  DellaDuck: this isn't the place for interpersonal spats. Please take it outside.
[06:17] <DVA5912> youve pinged, times, backtraced, "finger"
[06:17] <duckwars_> no such file or directory
[06:17] <DellaDuck> Thanks Ghoti__
[06:17] <duckwars_> but...
[06:17] <DellaDuck> No i didn't.
[06:17] <DVA5912> bodhizazen: already is
[06:17] <DVA5912> BS!
[06:17] <DVA5912> get outa here
[06:17] <mazda01__> Zajjko: yeap. give that a try
[06:17] <duckwars_> it's a .htaccess file?
[06:17] <mazda01__> stea: you still around?
[06:18] <bodhizazen> ls -l /var/www lol
[06:18] <stea> mazda01 yes i am
[06:18] <mazda01__> stea: did you run the modprobe command?
[06:19] <DellaDuck> Ghoti__: You seemed like a nice person, can you please stop DVA5912 to spam and threaten me in PM. Or just give me direction how to abuse him? :/
[06:19] <stea> mazda01 : i tried nothing came up, will updating to 8.10 help?
[06:19] <mazda01__> stea: not neccesarily. now enter lsmod | grep ath_pci
[06:19] <DellaDuck> I just want to idle, hang out and chat about the best OS in wide world :-)
[06:19] <Ghoti__> DellaDuck: type /ignore DVA5912 if you want no longer to hear from them.
[06:19] <DellaDuck> Thanks alot Ghoti__!
[06:19] <DVA5912> i already did that to ghoti
[06:20] <DVA5912> sorry to him
[06:20] <The_Warlock> can anybody help me to fix the problem to access ubuntu forums from firefox
[06:20] <Ghoti__> And thus, peace was restored.  :)
[06:20] <DVA5912> il kill him
[06:20] <Ghoti__> The_Warlock: what is the problem you are having?
[06:20] <lstarnes> Ghoti__: the syntax for /ignore is client-dependent.  Some clients require additional arcuments
[06:20] <DellaDuck> Please stop it DVA5912: " [07:19:52] - <DVA5912> you ass is mine"
[06:20] <DellaDuck> Please stop it DVA5912: " [07:19:52] - <DVA5912> i will kill you irl"
[06:20] <lstarnes> DVA5912: that statement is not weocome here
[06:20] <vise> The_Warlock, Whats the problem?
[06:20] <stea> mazda01, that didnt work before...
[06:21] <lstarnes> DellaDuck: you don't need to paste those messages here
[06:21]  * DVA5912 takes a cool down
[06:21] <vise> Whats an irl
[06:21] <DellaDuck> Okej, i'm sorry lstarnes. :-/
[06:21] <lstarnes> DellaDuck: which client do you use?  I might be able to help you put a working ignore on DellaDuck
[06:21] <lstarnes> er, DVA5912
[06:21] <DVA5912> DELLADUCK STOP!
[06:21] <lstarnes> vise: "in real life"
[06:21] <DVA5912> i already ignored him
[06:22] <DVA5912> and im still geting his hacking pm
[06:22] <lstarnes> DVA5912: all messages?
[06:22] <lstarnes> DVA5912: which client do you use?
[06:22] <DVA5912> well not really hacking but still
[06:22] <DVA5912> Pidgin
[06:22] <sebsebseb> !ops |   DellaDuck  DVA5912
[06:22] <lstarnes> DVA5912: have you tried blocking?
[06:22] <DVA5912> damet delladuck
[06:22] <maxxist> is there a meta package for kernel header files on ubuntu server?
[06:22] <lstarnes> DVA5912: I recall pidgin having incomplete irc support
[06:22] <DBO> DVA5912, whats going on
[06:22] <DVA5912> he has to be doing that on purpose
[06:22] <The_Warlock> Ghoti__: I am not able to acces ubuntu forums
[06:22] <The_Warlock> vise: ^^
[06:23] <DellaDuck> Now, the ignore seems to work out, thanks guys! :)
[06:23] <Ghoti__> The_Warlock: what happens when you try?
[06:23] <The_Warlock> its timing out
[06:23] <sebsebseb> DBO: two people arguing and things going rather off topic in here as a result
[06:23] <DVA5912> (1:22:44 AM) DellaDuck: Received CTCP 'PING 1248330138' (to DVA5912) from DellaDuck
[06:23] <iFuzo> The_Warlock: Why ?
[06:23] <Andorin> How about both of you just shut up and leave each other alone, so the rest of us can enjoy our Internets in peace?
[06:23] <DVA5912> there are about 50 of those
[06:23] <DVA5912> and abot 20 fingers
[06:23] <lstarnes> maxxist: probably linux-headers
[06:23] <lstarnes> DVA5912: /quote mode DVA5912 +C
[06:23] <Jeruvy> The_Warlock: timeout, sounds like a connnection problem.  Can you tell us how your connecting?
[06:23] <lstarnes> DVA5912: that should block CTCPs if it works correctly
[06:23] <The_Warlock> page doesnt open...after some time i get a network time out
[06:23] <mazda01__> stea: so you ran the modprobe ath_pci and it returned nothing? then you ran lsmod | grep ath_pci and that didn't return anything either? what about this command: lshw -C network
[06:23] <DBO> hes gone now DVA5912, lets get back on track now =)
[06:23] <zahid> howto mount local folder on local system in ubuntu
[06:24] <The_Warlock> but when i access the same page from my mac using firefox i can access
[06:24] <The_Warlock> noly the ubuntu box creates the problem
[06:24] <DVA5912> they stoped
[06:24] <maxxist> lstarnes, thanks.  it was linux-headers-server
[06:24] <DVA5912> that anoying sound is.... Gone! :D
[06:24] <mazda01__> zahid: what do you mean mount local folder? if it's local, it should already be mounted?
[06:24] <lstarnes> DVA5912: just stop making comments about it
[06:25] <The_Warlock> Jeruvy: i use the same office connection for both mac and the ubuntu
[06:25] <DVA5912> yeah. and now to my problem
[06:25] <zahid> let suppose i am using nfs server and want to mount nfs shared folder on nfs server
[06:25] <lstarnes> DVA5912: if you're being annoyed, just ignore it
[06:25] <mazda01__> The_Warlock: do you use smb ever to connect to server in mac os x?
[06:25] <Jeruvy> The_Warlock: is the ubuntu on a separate machine?
[06:25] <DVA5912> i ignored him
[06:25] <DVA5912> but they still came through
[06:25] <DVA5912> anyway
[06:25] <The_Warlock> Jeruvy: yes ubuntu a separate box
[06:25] <stea> mazda01 : network unclaimed. and then the atheros information
[06:25] <DVA5912> The user webmaster is a member of group www-data but im still not able to make write commands via ftp in the /var/www
[06:25] <The_Warlock> mazda01 yes
[06:25] <duckwars_> I tried to make a .htaccess file and it doesn't seem to be working and now I can't read it, and also I can't rm it... any ideas?
[06:26] <lstarnes> DVA5912: pidgin lacks complete irc support
[06:26] <rojas> hey jerc are u here yet?
[06:26] <The_Warlock> mazda01__: sorry no
[06:26] <DVA5912> im used to pidgin so... Ive used it for two years now
[06:26] <Jeruvy> The_Warlock: can you pastebin your 'ifconfig' output ?
[06:26] <rojas> im wating your answer
[06:26] <lstarnes> DVA5912: I'd recommend a more secure protocol than ftp, such as sftp or ssh
[06:26] <lstarnes> DVA5912: what are the permissions on /var/www?
[06:27] <stea> mazda01, i didnt know it was going to be this confusing... i just found out how to upgrade to 8.10 and am starting that right now.
[06:27] <mazda01__> stea: what does ifconfig return?
[06:27] <DVA5912> lstarnes: ssh? i can copy files over via ssh?
[06:27] <lstarnes> DVA5912: scp and sftp are both tools used for copying files via ssh
[06:27] <J_Dahmer> Howdy
[06:27] <lstarnes> DVA5912: there's also rsync
[06:27] <mazda01__> stea: ok but if you're going to upgrade, just go all the way to jaunty while you're at it as they fixed many issues with pulseaudio and I am sure the wireless support only gets better.
[06:27] <The_Warlock> Jeruvy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/225996/
[06:28] <zahid> mazda01: i using nfs server and want to mount nfs shared folder on nfs server
[06:28] <stea> well i have an intel graphics card and lots of people are having problems with jaunty mazda01
[06:28] <Jeruvy> The_Warlock: ok you have no ipv4 address assigned thats the issue
[06:28] <mazda01__> zahid: ah, that's not a local folder then. have you followed a guide on using NFS?
[06:28] <stea> i just searched the forum trying to find an answer on this...
[06:29] <zahid> mazda01: i have searched much but all invain
[06:29] <rojas> how can i mount windos partition of windos in xubuntu please?
[06:29] <mazda01__> stea: i already gave you the link for using that wifi card and ubuntu. it deals with compiling madwifi drivers from scratch or using ndiswrapper.
[06:29] <The_Warlock> Jeruvy: i thought the IP was a IP v4
[06:29] <rojas> windows partition in xubuntu sorry
[06:29] <The_Warlock> how do i enable it?
[06:30] <mazda01__> rojas: are you sharing a folder on windows? do you have simple file sharing on or not. is it winxp or what?
[06:30] <Jeruvy> The_Warlock: try 'sudo ifup eth0'
[06:30] <stea> mazda01 - thanks for your help. that looks like a very tedious thing !
[06:30] <stea> mazda01, really thanks though for the patience
[06:30] <The_Warlock> but i am able to access the net
[06:31] <The_Warlock> Jeruvy: its only that website i am not able to access
[06:31] <Dessan> Jeruvy,  He has an IPv4 IP enabled according to that ifconfig
[06:31] <stea> mazda01 - i am about 1min away from downloading the 8.10 upgrade, it will need to install though - this i am connected via a hard line
[06:31] <DVA5912> ok, so how do i add my user to the /var/www stuff?
[06:31] <zahid> mazda01: will you like to give me the link about nfs
[06:31] <rojas> yes its xp, i am really novate in linux, how can i know ifim shaing a folder
[06:31] <rojas> Ç?
[06:31] <mazda01__> stea: you shouldn't be scared at compiling from source. it's part of linux sometimes. this would be a perfect to dive in. just follow it step by step and i am sure it'll work out for you. i remember the first time I compiled from source. I was so scard and it turned out to be so easy.
[06:31] <Jeruvy> Dessan: but it is not up
[06:31] <DVA5912> better yet. how do i add my user to group www-data
[06:31] <lstarnes> DVA5912: sudo gpasswd -a username groupname
[06:31] <bodhizazen> sudo usermod -a -G www-data you
[06:32] <DVA5912> wo, which one
[06:32] <lstarnes> either should work
[06:32] <mazda01__> rojas: if you don't know if you're sharing a folder in winxp then I don't know if I can help. have you goggled this? it's merely right clicking on a folder in windows explorer and going to sharing and security and telling it to share the folder and allowing everyone either read only access or write access or whatever you want.
[06:33] <zahid> Anybody help me regarding nfs share on nfs server
[06:33] <zahid> means mounting
[06:33] <DixxieC> Sure zahid
[06:33] <DixxieC> What's your problem? :-)
[06:33] <bodhizazen> DVA5912, you need to log out and back in though for your new group to take affect
[06:33] <DixxieC> DVA5912: Mate, can you please stop your CTCP-querys hehe. :)
[06:33] <dippyskoodlez> hmm. So i'm running virtual box... but Im using a macbook pro
[06:34] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[06:34] <dippyskoodlez> and I have no right ctrl
[06:34] <rojas> ok now i get it
[06:34] <dippyskoodlez> how do i un capture? lulz
[06:34] <cooper77z> hello
[06:34] <zahid> i have configured nfs and want to mount that shared folder in ohter folder on Desktop of nfs server
[06:34] <DVA5912> lets not go through this again. DixxieC
[06:34] <Tetracomm> How do I tell Ubuntu to shut down after a particular period of time?
[06:34] <DixxieC> Hmm DVA5912?
[06:34] <cooper77z> I don't know
[06:34] <fogus> hey guys.  is it possible to use mdadm to raid together a bunch of truecrypt partitions?
[06:34] <DixxieC> Is it you David? :D
[06:34] <bazhang> DixxieC, please stop
[06:34] <scunizi> dippyskoodlez, you might want to ask on #vbox.. I use vbox and have never come across that issue..
[06:35] <dippyskoodlez> I don't physically have a right ctrl
[06:35] <dippyskoodlez> lol
[06:35] <mazda01__> zahid: I said I'd help you. have you defined your exports file, have you made your mount points in the remote computers fstab file? you need to follow a guide, here you go: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html    i doubt someone is going to hold your hand the entire way. i'll help if you get stuck on something
[06:35] <cooper77z> how do I tell my laptop to play music with the screen shut?
[06:35] <scunizi> dippyskoodlez, I know.. but #vbox might have a solution
[06:35] <DVA5912> DELE index.html
[06:35] <DVA5912> permission denied...
[06:35] <bodhizazen> change the defaults in vbox to left control or shift
[06:35] <bodhizazen> it hs the host key
[06:35] <bodhizazen> dippyskoodlez, ^^
[06:36] <dippyskoodlez> It's captured right now lol >_<
[06:36] <zahid> mazda01: yes mount on remote clients
[06:37] <J-_> Weird. Before I had over 1100FPS in glxgears, now I try it, and it's just over 600FPS. I have UXA enabled in xorg.conf
[06:37] <bodhizazen> dippyskoodlez, well, lol
[06:37] <mazda01__> zahid: and whats the problem?
[06:37] <cooper77z> handicap device speak to laptop "play musik with screen shut?"
[06:37] <zahid> mazda01: pc_name:/shared folder name /home/username/Desktop/foldername
[06:37] <bodhizazen> dippyskoodlez, fire up vbox File -Preferances -> input
[06:37] <bodhizazen> change the host key
[06:37] <DVA5912> danget. im part of www-data and ive reloged in but i still can not delete or make files/dir in /var/www
[06:38] <blognewb> http://www.guvnr.com/web/web-dev/setup-unmanaged-vps-newbies-v-p-s-bible/#index
[06:38] <vise> cooper77z, Change power options to not do anything when your screen is shut
[06:38] <blognewb> Is Google APps free? like postfix?
[06:38] <mazda01__> zahid:  if you defined your exports file on the NFS server, then just define your fstab entries on the client. something like : 192.168.0.3:/media/500gb/recordings /media/500gb/recordings nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
[06:38] <cooper77z> thank you vise
[06:39] <zahid> mazda01: on clients it works but on nfs server not
[06:39] <cooper77z> I don't need an mp3 player now
[06:40] <Dessan> blognewb, Thats like asking if black is black when its another color. Its a free service, but you don't own it (or your data even)
[06:40] <duckwars_> Following the instructions for basic Authentication found here http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/auth.html
[06:40] <duckwars_> I cannot figure out where to put the .htaccess file
[06:40] <cooper77z> is change power options under administrative?
[06:40] <zahid> mazda01: exports fiel ---- /data_nfs/medical_data/ 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[06:40] <vise> cooper77z, System->preferences->power options
[06:40] <blognewb> Dessan: i don't own postfix if i host it locally?
[06:40] <cooper77z> doing
[06:41] <duckwars_> "These directives may be placed in a .htaccess file in the particular directory being protected, or may go in the main server configuration file, in a <Directory> section, or other scope container."
[06:41] <duckwars_> pleeeeeaaaassee
[06:41] <Dessan> blognewb, Thats my point, you do own it if you host it locally. Google owns your data if you use Apps
[06:41] <blognewb> Dessan: well Apps isn't free at all for business purposes
[06:41] <cooper77z> Perfect, I have wanted to do that so long, hurray!
[06:41] <zahid> mazda01: on nfs server fstab file ----/data_nfs/medical_data      /home/useradd/Desktop/medical_data        0       0
[06:41] <lstarnes> duckwars_: it depends on what directories you need to require access for
[06:41] <bodhizazen> duckwars_, root is in /var/www
[06:42] <bodhizazen> so what directory do you want to protect ?
[06:42] <bazhang> blognewb, Dessan please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:42] <cooper77z> thanks vise
[06:42] <zahid> mazda01: on client it works but on nfs server not
[06:42] <blognewb> lstarnes: i couldnt speak yet via defocus
[06:42] <bodhizazen> If you have root access, probably best to put it in apache config rather then use .htaccess, imo
[06:42] <duckwars_> well what I did was, I put soft links in /var/www which are links to files on a USB hard drive connected to the server
[06:42] <duckwars_> symbolic links
[06:42] <lstarnes> blognewb: just wait a few minutes
[06:42] <mazda01__> zahid: what do you mean it doesn't work on server? the server is sharing out those folders.
[06:43] <mazda01__> zahid:  you should the same thing on the client if you mounted them correctly as you see on the server
[06:43] <DVA5912>  ok this is anoying me like crazy
[06:43] <bodhizazen> If you want to protect http://your_server.com/foo
[06:43] <DVA5912> im part of the www-data group, and yet still no permision to manage files
[06:43] <bodhizazen> put it in /var/www/frr
[06:43] <bodhizazen> put it in /var/www/foo
[06:44] <lstarnes> DVA5912: it depends on what the permissions are on /var/www and the files in it
[06:44] <Xuzz> I need general help here with Startup Items. I added this command (what I need to start compiz) to my startup items, but compiz doesn't start. Running this command manually starts compiz fine. How do I get this to run? "LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 INTEL_BATCH=1 compiz --replace --indirect-rendering --sm-disable ccp &"
[06:44] <mazda01__> zahid:  my exports file looks like this: /var/lib/mythtv 192.168.0.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[06:44] <DVA5912> what tells the permisions of /var/www ls -a?
[06:44] <lstarnes> DVA5912: ls -la
[06:44] <bodhizazen> yes DVA5912
[06:44] <duckwars_> here's the thing though, in /var/www I used softlinks to server up a file somewhere else, so I tried putting the .htaccess file in the file that the soft link points to, but that didn't seem to work
[06:45] <bodhizazen> ls -lA
[06:45] <lstarnes> DVA5912: the permissions of . equal that directory
[06:45] <bodhizazen> =)
[06:45] <lstarnes> bodhizazen: -A does not include . or ..
[06:45] <lstarnes> bodhizazen: in this case . is needed
[06:45] <bodhizazen> exactly LSD|Ninja
[06:45] <DVA5912> looks like its root accros the board
[06:45] <DVA5912> no wonder
[06:45] <bodhizazen> ls -lA /var
[06:45] <DVA5912> so do i become a member of root or change those to www-data
[06:45] <zahid> mazda01: i did on client it works but no nfs server not work
[06:46] <bodhizazen> use sudo DVA5912
[06:46] <lstarnes> DVA5912: what user is the webserver running as?
[06:46] <mazda01__> Xuzz: those are all seperate commands? you could write a cash script and then just add that bash script to your startup items.
[06:46] <DVA5912> this is over ssh
[06:46] <bodhizazen> sudo -i
[06:46] <lstarnes> bodhizazen: that's likely not necessary
[06:46] <DVA5912> DVA5913, dont let my admin catch you
[06:46] <lstarnes> DVA5912: are you using apache?
[06:46] <bodhizazen> lol LSD|Ninja
[06:46] <DVA5912> yes
[06:46] <bodhizazen> lol lstarnes
[06:46] <DVA5912> apache2
[06:47] <lstarnes> DVA5912: is apache2 running from the www-data account?
[06:47] <bodhizazen> unless you want to type sudo over and over =)
[06:47] <cooper77z> I wanted to play music with my laptop closed in xp for months, It was so easy in ubuntu with community
[06:47] <DVA5912> i got a prblem
[06:47] <DVA5912> DuCKEr is being a baby
[06:47] <vise> cooper77z, Even in xp it's the same way.. But there's no such 'instant support' community for xp.. ;)
[06:48] <DVA5912> that is the same person as DVA5913 and DellaDuck
[06:48] <cooper77z> thanks again community
[06:48] <DVA5912> i dont know how to tell
[06:48] <lstarnes> DVA5912: just ignore it.  It's not worth your attention, which is what it wants
[06:48] <DVA5912> hes keeps
[06:48] <lstarnes> DVA5912: try ps aux | grep apache2 | grep -v grep
[06:48] <DVA5912> inviting me to channels. poping up messages
[06:49] <pt1989> hi all
[06:49] <pt1989> my firefox keeps crashing
[06:49] <DVA5912> lstarnes: ok, got one root and the rest are www-data
[06:49] <pt1989> i completely removed it using synaptic and then reinstalled
[06:49] <cooper77z> my battery only lasts for like 90 minutes though and it's one of those slim type external ones, I gotta get a better battery
[06:49] <pt1989> still it's crashing
[06:49] <bodhizazen> probably an extension or corrupt profile pt1989
[06:49] <mazda01__> pt1989:  have you tried firefox 3.0?
[06:49] <DVA5912> can someone ban his ip
[06:49] <DVA5912> hes harrasing me
[06:49] <lstarnes> DVA5912: it would probably be safe for /var/www to be owned by the user www-data and the group www-data
[06:49] <pt1989> i'm using 3.0 and 3.5
[06:49] <lstarnes> DVA5912: have you tried placing an ignore on the IP?
[06:50] <pt1989> both crash with equal frequency
[06:50] <DVA5912> how
[06:50] <pt1989> how to locate a corrupt profile ?
[06:50] <vise> pt1989, Why are you using two in the first place?
[06:50] <lstarnes> DVA5912: there might be some plugins for pidgin for that
[06:50] <pt1989> i got 3.5 from synaptic just to check out the newer version
[06:50] <DVA5912> let me go hacking.
[06:50] <vise> pt1989, Just keep one.. that should work...
[06:50] <pt1989> but the issue was before i even started using 3.5
[06:50] <bodhizazen> firefox -safe-mode
[06:50] <cooper77z> what's the most cost effective battery I can get for a dell inspiron 1000?
[06:50] <bodhizazen> see if that helps
[06:50] <codeshah> hey guys, I am running 9.04, and I have an old PHP app that is running on PHP4... I want to debug this locally - but php4 cannot install :(
[06:51] <uknow> can someone help me install a sis mirage 3 driver on ubuntu
[06:51] <vise> pt1989, Remove both and put only one.. i am not sure both can work well together
[06:51] <mazda01__> pt1989:  what add ons do you have? also, are you using the libflashsupport-nonfree? I heard that causes tons of problems. it's a bug. if you have pulseaudio installed correctly you shouldn't have to have that file installed to get flash to work in firefox.
[06:51] <pt1989> bodhizazen, but no plugins/extensions right?
[06:51] <cooper77z> I got the universal slim type at a yard sale for like $3, I know that was a good deal
[06:51] <DVA5912> FUCK
[06:51] <bodhizazen> yep
[06:51] <DVA5912> how do i block his ip
[06:51] <bodhizazen> that is -safe-mode
[06:51] <sebsebseb> !language |  DVA5912
[06:51] <duckwars_> okay, i tried making a test dir at var/www/yomom and then I put the .htaccess file in there and the server just grants full access to it?
[06:51] <pt1989> mazda01__ i think so too
[06:51] <pt1989> how to avoid it ?
[06:51] <DVA5912> IM SORRY HES TICKING ME OF
[06:51] <lstarnes> DVA5912: it might not be possible in pidgin
[06:51] <pt1989> i need flash though
[06:51] <bodhizazen> it it works, then it is your profile or an extension
[06:52] <bodhizazen> if not, then it is ff :(
[06:52] <lstarnes> DVA5912: I know that it's possible in most dedicated irc clients, including xchat and irssi
[06:52] <bodhizazen> you may also get an error message
[06:52] <pt1989> bodhizazen, i get no error message
[06:52] <sebsebseb> DVA5912: use Xchat or even better   Konversation :)
[06:52] <pt1989> just shutsdown
[06:52] <DVA5912> can i just report him some where for the moment. im not using linux right now. im on my laptop
[06:52] <uknow> i must be impossible
[06:52] <uknow> it must
[06:52] <gane> mazda01, i didnt get any help from that
[06:52] <bodhizazen> makes it hard pt1989
[06:52] <sebsebseb> DVA5912: go to  #ubuntu-ops and complain about him
[06:53] <DVA5912> ok
[06:53] <pt1989> bodhizazen any alternatives to adobe plugin ?
[06:53] <uknow> is there a driver installer/scanner for linux?
[06:53] <sebsebseb> DVA5912: since your offtopic in here
[06:53] <bodhizazen> evance ?
[06:53] <lstarnes> sebsebseb, DVA5912: #ubuntu-ops cannot do anything about PMs
[06:53] <bodhizazen> oh, for flash ?
[06:53] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: then can maybe depends
[06:53] <lstarnes> sebsebseb, DVA5912: you could try freenode staff (see #freenode) but they will recommend ignoring the IP
[06:53] <pt1989> bodhizazen, yes
[06:54] <DVA5912> he keeps inviting me to a channel named of stuf. now its hack me lamer im going to freenode though. this problem will have to wait
[06:54] <pt1989> any info on that?
[06:54] <ARMENIAN> is there a shortcut for opening up the system monitor?
[06:55] <bodhizazen> no pt1989 I use the adobe .deb or .rpm
[06:55] <pt1989> there is some transitional package...
[06:55] <ARMENIAN> anyone?
[06:55] <Amarst> I have an SMB question:  I am following the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/samba-fileprint-security.html, and I'm confused about setting up the user security.  Are the users listed supposed to be the ubuntu server's userbase, or is it supposed to be the username of the person logged into the workstation that wants access to the server's samba share?
[06:55] <uknow> is there a driver installer/scanner for linux?
[06:55] <vise> ARMENIAN, Create a shortcut on your desktop or panel.. by right clicking it in the menu and selecting the option u want...
[06:56] <ARMENIAN> vise: ohh so there's not hotkey? :P ok
[06:56] <cooper77z> does the svdp digital camera encode sd chips that hardy can read?
[06:56] <alex___> ARMENIAN: Do you mean like that it's called gnome-system-monitor?
[06:56] <bodhizazen> Amarst, users on the server
[06:56] <ARMENIAN> alex___: yep :)
[06:56] <vise> ARMENIAN, I think you can even do a hotkey.. not sure
[06:56] <bodhizazen> you then log in with that user name and sama pw
[06:56] <alex___> ARMENIAN: Or did you mean like ctrl alt delete on windows?
[06:57] <ARMENIAN> alex___: i belive it's teh same thing
[06:57] <bodhizazen> samba user is not the same as a system user (log in)
[06:57] <ARMENIAN> the system monitor is like doing ctrl + alt + del in windows
[06:57] <LiraNuna> how can I pad the output of paste?
[06:57] <LiraNuna> I got two files and I want them interlaced, but I also want it padded
[06:57] <alex___> ARMENIAN: Yes, but I meant did you mean a key combination to open it, or the name of the program to open it in alt+f2/terminal
[06:57] <jcmarini> uknow linux drivers for printers and scanners are often automatically detected when you install if not go to makers wewb page for help
[06:57] <codeshah> hmm, anyone know how I can get php4 on ubuntu 9.04?
[06:58] <lstarnes> codeshah: I don't think you can.  I don't think php4 is really supported anymore
[06:58] <Amarst> hobdhizazen:  where do I set up the samba user?  i do not have access to a gui
[06:58] <ARMENIAN> alex___: key combination, but i guess u need to run it using the command
[06:58] <codeshah> lstarnes, thats a bummer :( I have to work on this old zencart hmm
[06:58] <mazda01__> here's a good guide for flash and pulseaudio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012&highlight=flash+pulseaudio
[06:58] <pt1989> oh, i've proved it's a problem with flash
[06:58] <ARMENIAN> alex___: i guess if there's no hotkey for doing it i can use xbindkeys to run it :)
[06:59] <alex___> Armenian: Open up Keyboard Shortcuts, click add, make it run gnome-system-monitor and set it to whatever you want
[06:59] <bodhizazen> what version of flash ?
[06:59] <bodhizazen> and you could try a new profile
[07:00] <Amarst> I have the libpam-smbpass package installed, so it should sync...but it doesn't
[07:00] <bodhizazen> firefox -P
[07:00] <ARMENIAN> alex___: hmm, if i could do this, why did I ever install xbindkeys? :P thanks man
[07:00] <uknow> yeah i have gone to sis they support some chipsets not mine tho
[07:00] <alex___> ARMENIAN: NP =P
[07:01] <fogus> hey guys.  is it possible to use mdadm to raid together a bunch of truecrypt partitions?
[07:02] <legend2440> uknow: read post # 119   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967&page=12
[07:02] <jcmarini> uknow sounds like you need expert help...not me, sorry
[07:02] <duckwars_> I've put my .htaccess file into /var/www/yomom and I'm pretty sure the .htaccess file is done correctly AND still /yomom gets served up wtihout even asking for a username or password, is there something I'm missing?
[07:02] <uknow> i have
[07:02] <mazda01__> pt1989: i run the nonfree version of flash and I don;t have a problem.
[07:03] <cooper77z> what is a usb2 capture device for hardy?
[07:03] <savanny1976xpser> I'm trying to install "xampp", after downloading the package I tried to " tar -zxvf xampp-linux-1.7.tar.gz+
[07:03] <savanny1976xpser> ". I keep getting this error "tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting no,   tar: Child returned status 2,   tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:03] <savanny1976xpser> " . can someone help me with this?? THX
[07:04] <cooper77z> what is a COMPATIBLE usb capture device for hardy?
[07:04] <jcmarini> uknow are you using ubuntu
[07:04] <uknow> yeah
[07:04] <cooper77z> video device
[07:04] <uknow> yeah
[07:04] <cooper77z> sorry
[07:04] <dva5900> *sigh* thats better.
[07:04] <jcmarini> uknow what sort of printer
[07:04] <uknow> sis mirage 3 771/671
[07:04] <LiraNuna> how can I mimic padded paste?
[07:04] <uknow> no priter
[07:05] <uknow> no printer a video chip sis mirage 3 771/671
[07:05] <mazda01__> savanny1976xpser: what is that plus symbol doing at teh end of the filename?
[07:06] <cooper77z> what is a compatible usb2 video and audio capture device for hardy?
[07:06] <duckwars_> do i have to point .htaccess file at a password saved as .htpass?
[07:06] <lstarnes> duckwars_: usually it's .htpasswd
[07:06] <LiraNuna> Any bash gurus around? I need to pad paste's output... http://pastie.org/private/kdpa7yuifq7pmrb3riuw
[07:07] <savanny1976xpser> I eliminated the "+" , same error
[07:07] <duckwars_> okay, because I followed the apache website about it and they save it as a file just called passwords
[07:07] <jcmarini> you are not the only one; see http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkjem_WdKwnYAWjVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWgwN285BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkAw--/SIG=125212r30/EXP=1248415526/**http%3a//ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3ft=958967
[07:07] <mazda01__> cooper77z: gogle showed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport   read away
[07:07] <dva5912> lstarnes, thanks for the help
[07:08] <k3Rn> hello! i want to install the latest version virt-manager. i just found out that you can download an ubuntu package from packages.ubuntu.com. is there a possibility to install it with all dependencys??
[07:08] <cooper77z> thanks
[07:08] <chris__> whats the best program to use for webcam chatting
[07:08] <dva5912> lol hes at it again
[07:08] <mazda01__> savanny1976xpser: download the file again. also, what directory are you trying to ungzip it in?
[07:08] <velcroshooz> somehow my 32 bit compatibility libs are not installed in the correct place, trying to run 32 video game apps gets me unable to find libGL.so.1 errors, i know they are on the system somewhere I just dont know why the programs arent finding them, anyone have any ideas?
[07:08] <lstarnes> dva5912: if you're on xchat, try /ignore *!*@212.116.219.162 ALL
[07:08] <dva5912>  /ignore *!*@212.116.219.162 ALL
[07:09] <dva5912> :D:D:D:D
[07:09] <savanny1976xpser> "opt"
[07:09] <duckwars_> I'm dieing here... I can't put a password on my apache server...........
[07:09] <lstarnes> dva5912: without the preceding space.  most irc clients interpret lines starting with a / as a command
[07:09] <dva5912> i got it
[07:09] <Amarst> bodhiz
[07:09] <jcmarini> sorry wrong one see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967
[07:09] <uknow> can anyone walk me throught editing xorg.conf
[07:09] <duckwars_> is there configuration file I have to change to make the apache server look for .htaccess files?
[07:09] <dva5912> yay. thanks so much lstarnes
[07:09] <lstarnes> dva5912: what's in the .htaccess?
[07:09] <lstarnes> dva5912: oops
[07:09] <lstarnes> duckwars_: what's in the .htaccess?
[07:10] <dva5912> i think i know the problem now. lstarnes i didnt set all the files to the www-data thing
[07:10] <duckwars_> it's a file used to set up basic authentication
[07:10] <cooper77z> The best fix appears to be to give the media to ubuntu in digital form, yes?
[07:10] <mazda01__> velcroshooz: create symlinks to them then. just do a find / -name libGL.so.1 and put a symlink where the program wants it to be.
[07:10] <mazda01__> velcroshooz:  i don't use 64bit so that's the best I cna help with that.
[07:11] <velcroshooz> mazda01__: problem is i dont know where its looking for it ;/
[07:11] <k3Rn> hello! i want to install the latest version virt-manager. i just found out that you can download an ubuntu package from packages.ubuntu.com. is there a possibility to install it with all dependencys??
[07:11] <duckwars_> dva5912: what were you trying to do? something similar to what I'm trying to do?
[07:12] <dva5912> duckwars_, im having a little bit of a time with getting read/write access in /var/www
[07:12] <chris__> what program should i use to do webcam chatting?
[07:12] <duckwars_> dva5912: oh well www-data is the group stuff has to be in for it to be seen by the apache server
[07:13] <uknow> alot of questions less answers
[07:13] <dva5912> duckwars_, got that done. still
[07:13] <uknow> but there trying
[07:13] <oliver__> Hi all i got this error when running fglrx X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[07:13] <oliver__>   Major opcode of failed request:  145 (GLX)
[07:13] <oliver__>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[07:13] <oliver__>   Serial number of failed request:  17
[07:13] <oliver__>   Current serial number in output stream:  17
[07:13] <FloodBot3> oliver__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <duckwars_> dva5912: what is the problem you are having?
[07:13] <oliver__> oops soz
[07:13] <oliver__> didn't think it was gonna space it out :D
[07:13] <mazda01__> velcroshooz:  yeah, sorry. i don';t; use 64bit so I couldn't tell you where it shoudl be. mine is located here: /usr/lib/ and it's a symlink. see here: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root       15 2009-07-08 01:46 libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.180.44
[07:13] <dva5912> duckwars_, i cant do anything. i think im going to forget this though. and just wget the tarball image off the site and go from there
[07:14] <mazda01__> velcroshooz:  i also have directories /usr/lib32/ and /usr/lib64/ but it's not in those directories
[07:15] <uknow> how do i change drivers for hardware on ubuntu
[07:15] <radams976> http://www.myspace.com/rustytechda
[07:15] <mazda01__> uknow: for what hardware?
[07:15] <uknow> display
[07:15] <uknow> sis mairage 3
[07:15] <chris__> whats the best program for video conferencing between linux and windows?
[07:16] <uknow> i have the download but by defult it ant useing it
[07:16] <apoleo12> Does anybody have problem with keymapping in the console????
[07:16] <k3Rn> how can i install a package from ubuntu.packages.com with all its dependencies?
[07:17] <mazda01__> uknow: what is the exact module name? that's what you put for the driver in your xorg.conf file under the device section. there's a gui app for jaunty. i think it gtkconfig or something like that.
[07:18] <mac_v> _MrApple_: sex change eh ;p
[07:18] <cooper77z> I am going to consider the audio and video capture issue solved now. I must provide ubuntu with the media in digital form for ubuntu to work with said media.
[07:18] <mazda01__> uknow: run sudo displayconfig-gtk and you should be able to chose your graphics driver in there I think
[07:19] <mazda01__> k3Rn: do you know all it's dependencies?
[07:20] <uknow> it said command not found
[07:21] <sluimers> hello I have a problem with my wi-fi, Networkmanager applet says the device is not managed and now my wi-fi isn't working :(.
[07:22] <k3Rn> mazda01: all dependencies are listed on ubuntu.packages.com
[07:22] <mazda01__> uknow: you have to run sudo aptitude install displayconfig-gtk then if it's not installed.
[07:23] <k3Rn> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/virt-manager
[07:23] <mazda01__> k3Rn: then  install all of them.
[07:23] <k3Rn> mazda01:http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/virt-manager
[07:23] <uknow> thanks
[07:23] <k3Rn> mazda01: there are many dependencies and most of them depend on more ...
[07:24] <k3Rn> there must be an easier solution i think
[07:24] <mazda01__> k3Rn: there is a command, let me see what it is. one second.
[07:24] <alexyy> My developers in China want to access facebook api services that are currently blocked.  They can't use proxy because there's no way to configure the lib for accessing facebook api to use a proxy.  so other than setting up a vpn, is there any other way to get around?
[07:25] <k3Rn> mazda01: thanks!
[07:25] <k3Rn> mazda01: any help much appreciated.. - first time i am doing this
[07:26] <Ileden> Hi! My display adapter broke, and now I'm trying to get an older Radeon 9200 to work with full 3D support by using the "ati" driver as described in the Radeon Ubuntu guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver) Unfortunately after doing everything described, it still isn't working - ('lshw -C display' produces only UNCLAIMED displays, so the "ati" driver isn't being used). How do I proceed with this?
[07:28] <mazda01__> k3Rn: i found this: http://www.howtoforge.com/checking-package-dependencies-with-apt-rdepends-on-debian-ubuntu   it should help
[07:28] <Nick0> Ileden: totally not answering that one
[07:28] <snowrichard> hi
[07:28] <Nick0> Ileden: I'm not in the right time zone to answer that one. good night.
[07:28] <Ileden> Nick0: how come?
[07:28] <unop> Ileden, what does  lspci | grep -i vga   give you?
[07:28] <timewaster> anybody home?
[07:28] <Ileden> Nick0: ok :)
[07:29] <k3Rn> mazda01: apt only has an very old version of virt-manager in its repository...
[07:29] <Ileden> unop: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
[07:29] <k3Rn> mazda01: but you can find an ubuntu karmic package on packages.ubuntu.com....
[07:29] <unop> Ileden, cool. so, you have created a new xorg.conf with the appropriate sections, etc ?
[07:29] <Guest34144> hi all. quick Q... is mac os x a linux wanabe?
[07:30] <mazda01__> k3Rn: did you even read the link, it talks about installing apt-rdepends and using that
[07:30] <timewaster> Am I even visible here?
[07:30] <Ghoti__> Guest34144: OS X is BSD, an operating system in many ways similar to Linux, with a custom Apple-designed GUI
[07:30] <Ileden> unop: yup, althoug I had to do some edits (assumedly non significant) to get it work - mainly removing references to mouse and keyborad, since they were not listed in the original xorg.conf
[07:30] <dva5912> how do i untar a file
[07:30] <shankhs> My question is can I install interpid netbook image in my machine?
[07:30] <Ghoti__> timewaster: No, we can't see you :)
[07:30] <timewaster> cool
[07:30] <timewaster> :)
[07:31] <Guest34144> thnx Ghoti
[07:31] <unop> Ileden, that should be ok. right, so the new xorg.conf works, are you able to log on to the desktop, etc?
[07:31] <ibnulislam> dva5912: tar -xvf file.tar
[07:31] <mazda01__> dva5912: what is the file extension?
[07:31] <Ghoti__> Guest34144: anytime
[07:31] <Ileden> unop: unop this is my current xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/226111/
[07:31] <mazda01__> ibnulislam: beat me to it.
[07:31] <timewaster> so.. i can't resume with my mx 4000 and binary nvidia driver
[07:32] <timewaster> so what do i do?
[07:32] <timewaster> works fine with the nv driver though
[07:32] <unop> Ileden, ok, but that's not telling me if it work alright? does it?
[07:32] <unop> Steve-o, stop please
[07:33] <KoolD> After a reboot my laptop speakers stopped working but The headphone still works.how do i solve this???
[07:33] <Bauer-> re-install the sound card again
[07:33] <shankhs> i dont have cd or dvd reader how can I install ubuntu?
[07:34] <Ileden> unop: I get image correctly, but I don't see 3d support. 'lshw -C display' says " *-display:0 UNCLAIMED ", which I don't think is correct, also compiz won't activate which I understand means I don't have support.
[07:34] <iceroot> !usb | shankhs
[07:34] <fogus> hey guys.  is it possible to use mdadm to raid together a bunch of truecrypt partitions?
[07:34] <shankhs> bios is old no USB boot option
[07:34] <Bauer-> shankhs: you can download the file,
[07:35] <shankhs> Bauer-: I was thinking of installing using HTTP
[07:35] <Bauer-> http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <iceroot> shankhs: then this http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[07:35] <jbinder> Hi.
[07:35] <timewaster> how do I troubleshoot suspend resume issues?
[07:36] <k3Rn> mazda01: can't even install apt-redends
[07:36] <shankhs> iceroot: dont you think thats buggy ??
[07:36] <timewaster> at least what's the proper way to submit a bug?
[07:36] <iceroot> shankhs: why?
[07:36] <bronson> timewaster, you figure out which driver is causing the problem.
[07:36] <jbinder> How do I get a website like http://www.sawpedia.com to load? I have an atheros card
[07:36] <timewaster> yup
[07:36] <bullgard4> System > Administration > System Monitor > Processes shows a column 'Waiting Channel'. What is a 'waiting channel'?
[07:36] <timewaster> bronson:^^
[07:36] <bronson> unplug all devices, etc.
[07:36] <fogus> help: there is this Steve-o guy who is giving me weird messages
[07:37] <shankhs> iceroot: i used wubi and I found that pretty bugggy
[07:37] <fogus> how do I block him?
[07:37] <timewaster> bronson: it's the nvidia binary driver that's causing the problem. it works fine with the nv driver.
[07:37] <iceroot> shankhs: look at the links,, its not wubi
[07:37] <bronson> timewaster, ah.  that's not good.
[07:37] <k3Rn> noone here can tell me how to install the latest ersion of the program virt-manager?
[07:37] <iceroot> shankhs: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[07:37] <bronson> there's basically nothing that can be done about that.
[07:37] <k3Rn> i am sure there is a simple way to do that.
[07:37] <shankhs> iceroot: ok thanks
[07:37] <unop> Ileden, I have to leave now, i'm sorry to leave you hanging. What I'd do if i were you is to have a look (or get someone) to examine the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for errors (marked by (EE)) and work that way up.
[07:37] <mazda01__> k3Rn, apt-rdepends
[07:37] <k3Rn> lie with the package from packages.ubunut.com
[07:37] <bronson> you could try bugging nvidia but they're not very responsive.
[07:38] <SnakDoc> anyone have idea when firefox-3.5 will become firefox ?
[07:38] <SnakDoc> if that makes sense ?
[07:38] <Ileden> unop: ok, bye! Thanks.
[07:38] <bronson> SnakDoc, the 9.10 release
[07:38] <iceroot> shankhs: with 9.10
[07:38] <iceroot> SnakDoc: with 9.10
[07:38] <timewaster> bronson: i've read something about the driver needing to be restarted. something about nvidia quirks or something. i think that my driver is not restarting.
[07:38] <iceroot> shankhs: sorry, wrong nick
[07:38] <SnakDoc> ok got till oct then sounds good
[07:39] <shankhs> iceroot: no prob
[07:39] <Ileden> 'glxinfo |grep render' also produces only "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[07:39] <bronson> timewaster, dunno.  On my nvidia computer I just use the nv driver.  It's slow but it's more reliable for me.
[07:40] <diddy> Does anybody know how to extend the time that sudo will give me to be root?
[07:40] <k3Rn> mazda01: http://paste.ubuntu.com/226131/
[07:41] <jbinder> ANyone know how? Is www.sawpedia.com working for you guys?
[07:42] <Steve-o> fogus
[07:42] <Steve-o> Please stop the spam
[07:42] <jbinder> ?
[07:42] <jbinder> I am trying to load a site
[07:42] <jbinder> What channel should I go to?
[07:42] <lstarnes> Steve-o: all the claims I've heard were that you were doing it
[07:42] <jbinder> wtf
[07:42] <iceroot> jbinder: you want to load a website?
[07:42] <Mike94287> For some reason all my window controls have stopped showing and everything is really messed up. Compiz isn't working or anything.
[07:43] <gane> mazda01, i didnt get any help from that website
[07:44] <gane> is there anyway  to access the webcam or making it to work  ..
[07:44] <shankhs> \quit
[07:44] <gane> in your web page also it is mentioned that there is no driver for that
[07:45] <Mike94287> Can someone tell me how to restart xorg, I think that may be the problem
[07:45] <gane> but it was posted by 2007
[07:45] <gane> this is 2009 right
[07:45] <timewaster> how do i get my nvidia mx4000 to resume? there seems to be a generic nvidia quirks setting for hal but I don't know how to verify if my card is in the list or how to add it if it's not.
[07:45] <Flannel> diddy: edit your sudoers and set timestamp_timeout, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers on editing sudoers (be *sure* to use visudo)
[07:46] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  hit ctrl-alt-F1, that will take you to a console, log in, then type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start. that should restart you xorg, you may have to hit ctrl-alt-F7 but I don't think so.
[07:46] <diddy> Flannel, Thank you.
[07:46] <timewaster> please somebody have a look at this http://pastebin.com/m4d824545
[07:47] <Guest95433> hi...could anybody help me on my domain?...i'm a newbie on ubuntu...
[07:47] <Cronos> guest can you give more info
[07:48] <Mike94287> mazda01__: Okay I'll try that, thanks.
[07:49] <mich01128> i'm trying to ping my www but my pc says my ping request could find my host
[07:49] <olcay> olceyy
[07:49] <olcay> hi
[07:49] <olcay> hello
[07:49] <Mike94287> mazda01__: That didn't seem to fix my problem, my window controls aren't showing, my windows are going over my panels and I can't move anything.
[07:50] <mich01128> can anybody help me...i'm a newbies on ubuntu...
[07:50] <mazda01__> mich01128:  are you behind a router? if you are, does your router forward ping requests? does your router accept pings
[07:50] <quibbler> !ask | mich01128
[07:50] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support (according to the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver it should have support). unop kindly pointed me to check out EE-errors in my Xorg.0.log - there's only one error, which reads "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". Any idea why it talks about NVIDIA, not radeon, could this be the source of the problem? My previous display adapter that broke down was
[07:50] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  r you using compiz? try to run this: metacity from a command prompt
[07:51] <rishav> hey guys, I am trying to open make my computer a remote server but am unable to open my 3306 port
[07:51] <mich01128> i am behind a router and it accepts forward ping request...
[07:51] <homercycles> what's the best partition type for external USB hard drives? Default in Ubuntu is ext2 but I'm thinking I should go ext3
[07:51] <Ravahan> Hello, wondering if anyone here can assist me with a problem loading FFXI?  I have followed the guide on the appdb to install it, and its a Gold app, but I'm getting a black screen whenever I open PlayOnline (the launcher).
[07:51] <mich01128> i already had configured my bind9 for the second time...
[07:51] <mazda01__> rishav: are you behind a router?
[07:51] <Mike94287> mazda01__: Yes I'm using compiz but it's not working either right now, also I don't know how I can access Terminal because this chat window is blocking my menus and I can't move it out of the way
[07:51] <rishav> yeah...
[07:51] <Cronos> try ext4 realy works great
[07:52] <mazda01__> mich01128:  do you have any iptables rules set?
[07:52] <homercycles> but ext3 would be the safest option?  I mean, ext2 is a tad old, isn't it?
[07:52] <rishav> but.. i want to use it in the intranet..
[07:52] <rexes13> good morning
[07:52] <mich01128> nope...no iptables yet...how do i do dat?
[07:52] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  hit ctrl-F2, that'll bring up a run box, type in gnome-terminal
[07:52] <Cronos> homer ex3 is same ex2 but whit jornaled system basicaly
[07:53] <homercycles> Cronos: I would guess journalling would be a must-have. thanks
[07:53] <mich01128> if i put my ip address in my browser i could get the page of my server...my problem is my www....
[07:53] <rishav> http://pastie.org/556054 , my.cnf file
[07:53] <mazda01__> mich01128: if you didn't do anything with iptables then no rules should be defined I don't think. ai am not sure why you can't ping your computer?
[07:53] <homercycles> Cronos: I'm not sure about ext4 yet. not too sure they've ironed out all the bugs
[07:53] <Mike94287> mazda01__: Nothing opened, however I tried running metacity in Ctrl Alt F1 and it said it was unable to start the window manager
[07:53] <Cronos> well go ext3 is very solid by now
[07:54] <mazda01__> rishav: have you forwarded port 3306 on your router to the ip of your computer?
[07:54] <Ravahan> Hello, wondering if anyone here can assist me with a problem loading FFXI?  I have followed the guide on the appdb to install it, and its a Gold app, but I'm getting a black screen whenever I open PlayOnline (the launcher).
[07:54] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  hitting ctrl-F2 didn't open a  little run box?
[07:54] <ahdiasdz> hörbuch
[07:54] <Ravahan> I'm thinking it might be DirectX or driver related, but I have no idea how to proceed from here?
[07:54] <mich01128> i can ping my ip address...but if i ping my domain...ping request could find host....
[07:54] <Mike94287> mazda01__: Nope
[07:55] <rishav> mazda01_ : i want it use it in the router subnet, not excess it from the internet, so I guess port forwarding from the router is not required
[07:55] <rexes13> anybody knows when i can get karmic koala alpha 3?
[07:55] <mazda01__> mich01128: that's a dns issue.
[07:55] <lstarnes> rexes13: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for unreleased ubuntu versions
[07:55] <Mike94287> mazda01__: Normally it does but ever since this happened I can't get it to open
[07:55] <mich01128> ok...what will i do in my dns?...
[07:55] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  it should. i am not sure and I have to get to bed now. sorry to all.
[07:56] <mazda01__> mich01128: you need to goggle it. got to get to bed. sorry to all.
[07:56] <mazda01__> GOODNIGHT
[07:56] <Ravahan> Goodnight
[07:56] <Cronos> gn
[07:56] <apoleo12> goodnite and thanks for ur help
[07:56] <mich01128> ok....anyway thanks....
[07:56] <Mike94287> mazda01__: Okay thanks for your help
[07:56] <mich01128> is there anybody else who could help me on my issue?
[07:57] <Mike94287> Can anyone else help me? My window controls aren't showing for some reason and I can't do anything.
[07:57] <Ravahan> So yeah, loading the MMO FFXI via Wine installed as instructed on the appdb page, I'm getting a black screen when I load PlayOnline (launcher).  I think it may be driver or DirectX related-- Can anyone help me or direct me somewhere someone might know something?
[07:58] <rexes13> btw u know how can i retrieve my down panel in case i delete it?
[07:58] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  one last suggestion would be to restart your machine. gotta go now.
[07:58] <Cronos> what did you do mike did you update or install anything
[07:58] <Mike94287> mazda01__: I tried that and it didn't work
[07:58] <rishav> mazda01_: http://pastie.org/556056 basically commands i tried to open the 3306 port on my machine
[07:58] <Jeruvy> Mike94287: can you re-explain?
[07:59] <mazda01__> mich01128: you need to make sure that your external ip is associated to your domain name using dyndns or something simliar and then if you don't have a static ip you need to use a program that updates your external and domain name when your external ip changes. gotta go now. bye
[07:59] <Ravahan> Well, I suppose I'll try #winehq.  I'm sure I'll be seeing you guys later ;-)
[07:59] <Mike94287> Conos: I randomly got a terminal showing over my whole screen (like the one you get with ctrl alt f1) and I pressed enter and now none of my window controls are showing.
[07:59] <cWex_iMutZz_> dinna
[08:00] <Leoneof> anybody can help me? my wireless does not work with Ubuntu 9.4 , it has Atheros chipset
[08:00] <Mike94287> Jeruvy: My window controls (minimize, maximize, close) aren't showing, compiz stopped working, and I can't move my windows.
[08:00] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  wait, did you try ctrl-alt-F7, that should take you to the gui session. ctrl-alt-F1 thru F6 are just tty's consoles.
[08:01] <Mike94287> mazda01__: ctrl alt f7 doesn't do anything
[08:01] <Cronos> leoneof did you ty the propietary madwifi drivers
[08:01] <mazda01__> rishav: you can't nmap yourself from your own computer!!!!
[08:01] <Jeruvy> Mike94287: did you disable compiz?
[08:01] <KB1JWQ> mazda01__: Technically you can.
[08:01] <Leoneof> Cronos, i'm newbie with Linux :/
[08:02] <KB1JWQ> Loopback generates odd results, but the external IP you can.
[08:02] <Mike94287> It's disabled right now even though I don't remember ever disabling it.
[08:02] <rishav> yeah you can
[08:02] <Mike94287> Jeruvy^
[08:02] <Cronos> using kde or gnome leoneof?
[08:02] <pccc> Can I use apt-get to install erlang R13B (it seems to install R11B by default)?
[08:03] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support (according to the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver it should have support). User unop kindly pointed me to check out EE-errors in my Xorg.0.log - there's only one error, which reads "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm surprised it talks about NVidia, not Radeon - could this point to the source of my problem? My previous display adapter that br
[08:03] <Leoneof> Cronos, sorry i don't know, it is Ubuntu i downloaded from ISO DVD , i think it is gnome
[08:03] <Jeruvy> Mike94287: hmm.  Any luck with the other consoles mazda01 suggested?
[08:03] <Cronos> ok menu is on top if it is go to system-admin
[08:05] <mazda01__> rishav: your running nmap on an internal ip address when you need to be running nmap on your external ip to see what ports are listening to the outside world. you need to run netstat -pant to see what ports are listening. also, there's a website that will run namp again your computer, i think it's called shields up or soemthing like that
[08:05] <Mike94287> Jeruvy: I'm able to access them but what should I do when I get to them? I already tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and start in tty1 but it didn't help
[08:06] <Ravahan> Hello, I'm back and I've had an idea!  While #winehq was totally dead, I did see something in the welcome message that clicked with something I saw earlier....
[08:06] <Ravahan> Someone said that they got a black screen with Comp... er.... Crap, I can't remember.  Comp-something-z enabled, and the winehq message said not to run wine with that thingie
[08:07] <Ravahan> Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?  lol
[08:07] <Jeruvy> Mike94287: I'm failing to connect the dots with your 'windows' issue and the problem.
[08:07] <Ravahan> Compiz?  Something like that
[08:07] <Mike94287> Jeruvy: I would take a picture but unfortunately the print screen dialog doesn't show when I press my print screen button now
[08:08] <Ravahan> Anyone here use Wine at all that might have a few ideas?
[08:08] <Mike94287> When I tried running metacity in tty1 I got an error saying "Window manager error: Unable to open x display"
[08:09] <JamesHoldsworth> How do I change directories to a hidden folder in the terminal? i've tried CD and it says teh directory doesnt exist, when it comes up as ".passwd" in ls -a
[08:09] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  you can't run metacity from tty1 bcause X isn't running on that console. you ahve to run metacity from tty7.
[08:10] <Mike94287> I can't access tty7
[08:10] <Jeruvy> Mike94287: Ah ^^
[08:10] <mazda01__> JamesHoldsworth: .passwd is a file not a directory then
[08:10] <mazda01__> Mike94287:  because you're most liekly already in tty7
[08:10] <JamesHoldsworth> i thought that would make it a hidden directory?
[08:10] <s1gmab3ta> i have a logitech vx revolution mouse. my dad has an older logitech mouse, and on his ubuntu 9.04 power manager reports the battery status of his mouse. gnome-power-manager says nothing about my mouse, even though it is newer and awesomer. anyone know why?
[08:10] <JamesHoldsworth> How would I access it?
[08:10] <Ileden> JamesHoldsworth: what does 'ls -alF' say about it?
[08:11] <JamesHoldsworth> its owned by root
[08:11] <JamesHoldsworth> and was made a year ago
[08:11] <Ravahan> Well, I'll mess around in the kitchen and try back in a bit here.
[08:11] <Mike94287> mazda01: I'll try restarting and opening terminal then trying to run metacity
[08:11] <Cronos> Ravahan try stop compiz when you use wine you can install an applet to do that from synaptics
[08:11] <mazda01__> ok
[08:11] <Cryptorchild> JamesHoldsworth: if it's directory you can by cd .passwd, if it's a file you can by using vim or vi or other text editor
[08:12] <Ileden> JamesHoldsworth: I'm interested in what the output of 'ls -alF' shows at the beginning about it. Something like "-rw-r--r--"?
[08:12] <Cryptorchild> JamesHoldsworth: owned by root, not your concern anymore then ;)
[08:12] <mazda01__> JamesHoldsworth: when you run ls -a on it, does it have a d in the very begining, if not, then it's a file not a directory
[08:13] <kalyan_> hi.. can anyone tell me what is the minimum sd card requirement for flashing in koolu on the neo freerunner
[08:14] <JoAnneThrax> so, if I were to manually edit my xorg.conf file (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624), should amdcccle be able to deal with it afterwards, or should I be worried about messing that up?
[08:15] <mazda01__> JoAnneThrax: not sure what you're asking but before changing any system file, I always make a backup that way you can at a minimum boot up a live cd, then replace the bad file with your backup file. I just make a copy of the file with _original after it before I change it. good luck
[08:16] <mazda01__> GOODNIGHT TO ALL.
[08:17] <Mike94287> Okay I was able to get my window controls to show again, however how can I keep them showing? If I close terminal they'll go away again.
[08:17] <s1gmab3ta>  i have a logitech vx revolution mouse. my dad has an older logitech mouse, and on his ubuntu 9.04 power manager reports the battery status of his mouse. gnome-power-manager says nothing about my mouse, even though it is newer and awesomer. anyone know why?
[08:18] <Cronos> Mike what did you do to make it work i got lost on other chanels
[08:19] <Mike94287> Cronos: I used the command metacity in terminal instead of in tty1, I wasn't able to access it before because my windows were covering up my menus.
[08:19] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta i had to install hidpoint to get more advanced features of my keyboard to work
[08:20] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta not sure if it help you for that i was trying to get special keys to work
[08:20] <JoAnneThrax> mazda01: thanks; I already backed it up...
[08:20] <s1gmab3ta> SnakDoc: i'll look into it
[08:20] <Cronos> so you have a terminal window if you close all go messed up is that terminal runing something?
[08:20] <JoAnneThrax> mazda01: This would be a lot easier with CCC, but it's not letting me configure it to do dual monitors
[08:21] <Mike94287> Cronos: yes
[08:21] <Mike94287> Oh wait, I was able to get it to stay by running it in alt F2
[08:21] <Mike94287> However now I have a new problem, Compiz is no longer working.
[08:22] <Cronos> but your system is im shure someone will help w compiz
[08:23] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta http://www.hidpoint.com/supported_devices.html its supported
[08:23] <Mike94287> Cronos: Okay thanks for your help
[08:23] <nooneelse> someone here use ubuntu 9.04 with videocache (www.cachevideos.com) ?
[08:23] <Cronos> the thing is know why is that terminal showing
[08:23] <colloguy> why are there no scripts starting with 'K' in /etc/rc{1,2,3,4,5}.d?
[08:24] <paolo> Hi guys! I have a MS keyboard, which by default sends alternate codes for the functions key, and in order to get the usual codes I must press a F buttun every time I boot. Is there any trick in order to get the function key working as expected automatically? thank you!
[08:24] <Cronos> what didi you change that make that problem start?
[08:24] <lstarnes> colloguy: because those modes are used for starting, not stopping
[08:24] <nooneelse> someone here use ubuntu 9.04 with videocache (www.cachevideos.com) ? cause after a fresh install of ubuntu it's not working anymore!? Could someone give some tips?
[08:24] <Mike94287> Cronos: I didn't change anything, the screen just went black and it looked like I was in a full screen terminal
[08:24] <colloguy> lstarnes: where is the stopping handled? :]
[08:25] <SnakDoc> paolo was just talking about that look at http://www.hidpoint.com/supported_devices.html
[08:25] <lstarnes> colloguy: I think it's handled automatically by init switching starting and stopping when exiting a runlevel
[08:25] <Cronos> wow no uupdates no nothing that is realy extrage
[08:25] <colloguy> lstarnes: oh cool
[08:25] <lstarnes> colloguy: or it might be handled by the target runlevel
[08:26] <Mike94287> Cronos: The really strange thing is that this isn't the first time that full screen terminal has showed up, it first showed up when I turned my fan off but nothing happened that time and now when I turn my fan off again this happened.
[08:26] <Mike94287> I don't see what a fan sitting on my desk would have to do with anything though :s
[08:26] <paolo> SnakDoc, I can't understand, that page doesn't say anything
[08:27] <SnakDoc> paolo shows supported devices by that program
[08:27] <s1gmab3ta> SnakDoc: doesn't seem like this program supports my mouse nearly as well as they'd have us believe
[08:27] <s1gmab3ta> it says i dont have a mouse
[08:27] <s1gmab3ta> lol
[08:27] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta you unplug it and replug it in ?
[08:27] <Cronos> well you have to think on a overcharge on the electrical system that may damage some of youre hardware but i never head from a case
[08:29] <Cronos> mike have you check your logs for X errors?
[08:29] <s1gmab3ta> SnakDoc: yes
[08:29] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta try to refresh page close app unplug device plug back in open app back up
[08:30] <s1gmab3ta> SnakDoc: negative, i've done every combination of those things
[08:30] <SnakDoc> try to manual set device ?
[08:31] <s1gmab3ta> this app isn't for me anyway it doesnt seem to have anything to do with the battery
[08:31] <SnakDoc> see device selection at top hit that and i will select device
[08:31] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support by following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver. My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why "NVidia", since I have a Radeon card - my previous card was NVidia. Could this point to the source of my problem? Any idea on how to proceed?
[08:32] <Xks> hi all
[08:32] <Xks> xDD
[08:32] <Xks> va dau la muiie
[08:32] <s1gmab3ta> thanks anyway
[08:33] <taruz> good evening, im having some troubles setting up my video card on ubuntu
[08:33] <taruz> i have a geforce 9400gt 1gb
[08:33] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta sry about that haven't had my bats get low in mine to see since i found it but it added function for special keys figured would keep battery to was suppose to be drivers for all
[08:33] <SnakDoc> s1gmab3ta atleast thats what i thought
[08:33] <taruz> and it only allows for a 640x480 resolution
[08:33] <taruz> can somebody help?
[08:34] <SnakDoc> taruz you try restricted hardware drivers ?
[08:34] <taruz> the drivers are installed
[08:34] <SnakDoc> you reboot after that ?
[08:34] <bluntman225> hey guys, i need a little advice. I have a webcam that serves images on 192.168.1.13/image.cgi  - Is it possible to write a script to download an image from the camera, run Image Magic on it to clean up the file (the camera produces messed up headers for the jpeg) then overwrite the image automaticly? Sort of like a shell script
[08:34] <taruz> i have the nvidia config thingy in my system > administration
[08:34] <taruz> i rebooted, after that
[08:34] <taruz> i only get that resolution
[08:35] <SnakDoc> and you trying to use nvidia config to change settings and it want let you ?
[08:35] <taruz> i tried using the config and it only lets me change between 640x480 and 320x240
[08:35] <taruz> i added a Modes line with the supported resolutions to my xorg.conf file
[08:35] <taruz> but it didnt worked
[08:36] <SnakDoc> only other thing i know is to edit config file
[08:36] <taruz> what should the xorg.conf file would have to look like?
[08:36] <Scorpio> what in the world is this!
[08:37] <Scorpio> this is like some underground hacking mess right here
[08:37] <Scorpio> the source of the elite hackers leads here...jesus...
[08:38] <SnakDoc> taruz http://pastebin.org/3730 look at that think thats all you need
[08:38] <ecolitan> i need to disable the automatic networking stuff in ubuntu
[08:38] <Ileden> bluntman225: sure it's possible. It could be done with a shell script I imagine, or a simple program using python or command-line php.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: hardly
[08:38] <Scorpio> don't try to fool me with your trickery. Just look at this place. It hacker paradise
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: if you want it to be, sure
[08:39] <oldude67> only time i hack is when i wake up in the morning..:D
[08:39] <taruz> thing is i have on my pc the PCI-e geforce card and the intel integrated one
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: do you have an ubuntu issue?
[08:39] <taruz> can i get them both to work?
[08:39] <taruz> like in windows?
[08:40] <Scorpio> If i want it to be? You guys are clever with your hacking languages to confuse and divert me.
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> taruz: sure
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | taruz
[08:40] <Scorpio> ubuntu issue? what is that a Hacking Magizine
[08:40] <Ileden> bluntman225: you can use seomthing like wget to get the image, then run imagemagic with the parameters you want. I assume shell script would be enough.
[08:40] <DJones> !ubuntu | Scorpio
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: this is the official support channel for ubuntu, please help, ask a question, be quiet or leave.
[08:41] <Scorpio> my god, so the plot thicken doesnt it ubottu?
[08:41] <bluntman225> Ileden:  Thanks man, Im going to try shell script. Do you know of a program that can clean image headers?
[08:41] <Ileden> bluntman225: and if you want it to happen periodically, you use cron table to run the script
[08:42] <taruz> geez im so lost with that
[08:42] <taruz> :p
[08:42] <ARMENIAN> why does xfce use 253 MB of ram whereas gnome uses 234?
[08:42] <SA007> anyone have an idea why my /dev/psaux could be broken? did a kernel upgrade (which hangs at mounting root) so i booted the old kernel again but cat /dev/psaux stays blank and my touchpad therefore doesn't work
[08:42] <Ileden> bluntman225: I don't know, but I suppose there should be some programs for that
[08:42] <taruz> hey action parsnip
[08:42] <Ravahan> Cronos: I saw that-- Thanks.  I installed the configuration manager, which was the only thing I saw at first glance that looked like it'd work.  I looked at it after the install, but didn't see anything that simply said "turn this thing off" so I didn't mess with it for now.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> taruz: use tab to complete names ;)
[08:42] <taruz> thanks!
[08:42] <Ravahan> Would "sudo invoke-rc.d compiz stop" stop compiz?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: try it
[08:43] <taruz> how do i make ubuntu to display on more resolutions
[08:43] <taruz> im currently in 640x480 and its ridiculously small
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> taruz: you need to configure video drivers
[08:43] <taruz> ok, i installed the restricted drivers, rebooted and i have this small resolution
[08:43] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: heh, good point.  I guess I'm just scared of screwing something up here.  Gonna give it a whirl!
[08:43] <Scorpio> Don't worry taruz the basics of the program consists of 19,622 components in which are diverted into smaller pixals to upload the frame-rate to perform optimal performance in such cases of inverted diagrams on a scale of perportioned value. Understand?
[08:44] <taruz> i have the nvidia config thing on system > administration
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: you can always reboot if it goes weird
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> taruz: then run:  gksudo nvidia-settings
[08:44] <lancerocke> hi all
[08:44] <lancerocke> im getting no grub options
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> taruz: if it says you arent running any drivers thn run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> taruz: and reboot
[08:45] <lancerocke> it just automatically boots into ubuntu
[08:45] <taruz> i have the nvidia-glx-180 installed
[08:45] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Eh, looks like no.  I kinda expected this.. Just a command I used to stop gmd earlier when I was installing some NVIDIA drivers (which was a big mistake >.<)
[08:45] <ARMENIAN> why does xfce use 253 MB of ram whereas gnome uses 234?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> taruz: cool
[08:45] <Guest35724> serius
[08:45] <lancerocke> someone here said http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=293180 'Place a # before the hidden option to see GRUB at boot time'
[08:45] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: It refers to /etc/init.d/[process] it looks like
[08:45] <lancerocke> but i already have one there
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the timeout to something longer
[08:46] <taruz> ActionParsnip: i know, but it wont give me other resolutions other than 640 and 320
[08:46] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Any idea what command I could use to try and halt compiz?
[08:46] <Scorpio> Taruz: I beg to differ on Actionparsnip's theory of running ANY driver, you run the risk of completly frying the whole program with too many functions simultaneously running at once.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: metacity --replace &
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: which program will be "fried"?
[08:47] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip, i did and it doesnt work http://pastebin.com/m37e14b10
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: ok,what if you cange the timeout to say 10
[08:47] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Well that certainly did something.  Let me see what happens when I boot PlayOnline... Also, what do I type to re-enable it?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: compiz --replace &
[08:48] <Scorpio> ActionParsnip: that all depends on the main-frame of the mother board. It could just be a glitch of one's computer OR it could simply be a internal function embedded deep within the board to crash and destroy the program
[08:48] <lancerocke> ok ill try it
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: if you use alt+f2 you don't need '&'
[08:48] <lancerocke> ## timeout sec
[08:48] <lancerocke> # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
[08:48] <lancerocke> # (normally the first entry defined).
[08:48] <lancerocke> timeout		10
[08:48] <lancerocke> ?
[08:48] <FloodBot3> lancerocke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: yes, just don't flood the channel
[08:48] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Cool.  Looks like that didn't fix it though...
[08:49] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip, thanks brb
[08:49] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Still, something learned!
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: so which program will it "fry", you havent quantified it yet
[08:51] <gogeta> < hate wine
[08:52] <Cronos> all people hate wine but we useit :P
[08:52] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: So what does that command actually do?  Replace the compiz process with a different windows manager?
[08:52] <mOrO^> gogeta: Just goes along with hating M$
[08:53] <Ravahan> Well, Wine would be totally awesome if I could just get it to work
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: it replaces the window manager with whatever you specify
[08:53] <Ravahan> lol
[08:53] <eboyjr> Hello :P I am about to get a netbook and I am wondering if I make a fresh (entire disk) install of UNR, will GRUB be there and what options will there be to select? :) Thanks.
[08:53] <taruz> ActionParsnip: i added a modes "1024x768" to my xorg.conf file, but didnt work
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> taruz: takes a bit more than that. I can give you my xorg.conf if you'd like, I use nvidia @ 1024x768 too
[08:53] <cube|hospital> hey, do 3G USB Sticks work with ubuntu?
[08:53] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Ah, cool
[08:54] <taruz> please do
[08:54] <Ravahan> Is anyone here familiar at all with getting games to run in Wine?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> taruz: http://pastebin.com/fb39f49c
[08:54] <Ravahan> I'm posetive I'm just doing some goofy newbie error
[08:54] <Cronos> enboyjr im on a nettbook dual boot and the instalation give me linux and windows boots no problems
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: depends which game
[08:54] <Boohbah> cube|hospital: it should work, but there's only one way to find out
[08:54] <Scorpio> Actionparsnip: to name a few, Automatix, Beagle, Gnome Deskbar Applet, VLC, Firefox, amaroK, CheckGmail, Add NTFS Read/Write support, XGL/Compiz = Purdiest
[08:55] <Cronos> isnt cedega or something call like that to run ms games on linux
[08:55] <Boohbah> Ravahan: you may check the wine application db for compatibility with your app http://appdb.winehq.org/
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: so installing nvidia drivers via apt will damage ntfs-3g?
[08:55] <DJones> Ravahan: The best place to ask about games/wine would be in #winehq the people there should be the best ones to help you
[08:55] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Well, I'm trying at the moment to get FFXI to run.  Its the top listed app in appdb's Gold list, so I'm thinking it /should/ work
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: i doubt that heavily
[08:55] <cube|hospital> Boohbah: lol which is? just trying it out?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: make sure you use wine from the wine repo: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[08:55] <Boohbah> cube|hospital: yes
[08:55] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I got Wine through Synaptic-- no good?
[08:55] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip, thanks that worked but what if i wanted it to automatically show me the grub menu list and not boot to anything unless i chose?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: if you scroll down the app in appd, you will see hints on files you may need to place on your system from the web
[08:56] <Scorpio> ActionParsnip: Under ideal circumstances, most certiantly
[08:56] <meglo> Any GStreamer application(totem, rhythmbox) will not play any sound, or attempt to. They just seem to hang... I can get input/output working on an Adobe Flash application just fine.
[08:56] <meglo> What would be the cause of this?
[08:56] <dahlia> Hi, I let the update thing run and now my display wont go to any higher resolution than 1024x768. How can I make it go higher again?
[08:56] <cube|hospital> ok lol
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Scorpio: the worst that will happen is no x server will load, leaving the user in command line. ntfs-3g will certainly work without an x server
[08:56] <Scorpio> doubt is the creation of destruction. You should know that more then anyone ActonParsnip
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: try te one on the wine repo
[08:57] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I had replaced those from a windows install on a different partion np and registered them... What I'm getting is a black screen when I open it.  I can tell when I mouse over that the usual stuff is actually there, and I can hear the music... but I just can't see anything.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: read the appdb entry, maybe someone is having the same issue
[08:57] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Someone who had a similar issue suggested it might be DirectX issues... So I googled some instructions to get DirectX9 installed and did those too
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: you don't install directx9 in wine
[08:57] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: So now I've got a bunch of DLLs set to Native (Windows)
[08:57] <cube|hospital> anybody using a 3g usb stick with ubuntu?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: wine simulates the abstraction for directx
[08:58] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Well crap.
[08:58] <taruz> ActionParsnip: my monitor supports 1600x1200 can i change your resolution with that?
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> taruz: if you wish, sure
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> taruz: i need taht file as my CRT moonitor doesnt report mode lines, so I have to tell my system what the monitor can do
[08:59] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I'm starting to feel like I'm taking a shotgun to the jewels.  This is incredibly frustrating.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: try running    winecfg   and selecting a different OS, or a simulated desktop of a smaller size then your screen
[08:59] <taruz> ActionParsnip: i replaced it, will reboot, hope the x server wont crash
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> taruz: you can get it back using grub
[08:59] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I've not tried a simulated desktop at all, I'll give that a go and see if it makes a difference.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> taruz: boot to recovery mode, fix graphics
[09:00] <taruz> ActionParsnip: ok
[09:00] <eboyjr> What are the default GRUB options on a fresh (mmm smells good) cup of Ubuntu 9.04 using the entire disk?
[09:00] <aron_> can  some one tell me if ati radeon hd 2600 have problems with 3d in ubuntu 9.04????
[09:02] <taruz> ActionParsnip: didnt work, i still have 640x480
[09:03] <taruz> ActionParsnip: thing is this is a fresh install i havent updated anything, i have the 9.10 version
[09:03] <taruz> if i let the update manager do its thing, could this be fixed then?
[09:04] <bullgard4> System > Administration > System Monitor > Processes shows a column 'Waiting Channel'. What is a 'waiting channel'?
[09:04] <saeed_> i'm start work with ubuntu but i'm not work with terminal please help me
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> taruz: get full updates: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:05] <dan_> anyone know of a lightweight text editor that will colorize my code?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> eboyjr: /boot/grub
[09:05] <dahlia> is there any way I can revert the last updates the update manager did? it totally borked up my display
[09:05] <sash_> dan_:  gedit or vim
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> dan_: does mousepad do it?
[09:07] <dan_> sash_, ah didnt know gedit had that option
[09:07] <eboyjr> ActionParsnip: Thank you:) but I mean the options found in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file by default. I'm going to guess and say Ubuntu, Ubuntu recovery, and memtest?
[09:07] <dahlia> any way I can force it to the higher resolution? 1024x768 is just terrible with a high-rez lcd :(
[09:07] <lera_zed> hi all, is there any prebuilt packages of dovecot-1.2.1 for intrepid ?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> eboyjr: as well as a few other lines, yes
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !info dovecot intrepid
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: reinstall your video drivers
[09:08] <eboyjr> ActionParsnip: Okay :) What lines might that be? Do you mean like when new kernels are installed
[09:08] <lera_zed> ActionParsnip: dovecot* will bring more results
[09:09] <mOrO^> saeed_: Just input your questions.
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> !info dovecot* intrepid
[09:09] <usc1s> Has anyone here had a problem using NSE in Nmap-5.00?
[09:09] <moymoy> lera_zed: have you tried getdeb?
[09:09] <dahlia> ActionParsnip, you mean uninstall and reinstall?
[09:09] <lera_zed> moymoy: not yet, what is this ?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> eboyjr: i can show you mine, its marginally tweaked but will get you started
[09:10] <lera_zed> moymoy: right i found it - i'll check
[09:10] <moymoy> lera_zed: it's a website with a collection of Deb files that usually aren't in the repos
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> eboyjr: http://pastebin.com/f710b83b8
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: whatever you did to get the display nice, do it again
[09:10] <dahlia> ActionParsnip, it's always been nice until I let the update thing run
[09:11] <saeed_> shat up
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: ok, what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[09:11] <meglo> Can I stare at a 15" CRT screen running at 60hz for 8 hours a day without hurting my eyes?
[09:11] <thht> meglo: no
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> meglo: sure, with breaks
[09:11] <sash_> meglo:  i dont think so
[09:12] <eboyjr> ActionParsnip: Okay thank you. :) Youve been helpful. I was just curious because I am recommending Ubuntu NR to and I think GRUB is kinda unsightly :P I will set 'default 0', 'timeout 0' and 'hiddenmenu' :)
[09:12] <dahlia> ActionParsnip, 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1)
[09:12] <thht> meglo: should really be 75-80 hz
[09:12] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I LOVE YOU!!!
[09:13] <meglo> I can either do 1024x768@60hz, or 800x600@85hz. How would I go about manually specifying the vertical sync and horizontal refresh rate for my monitor? It is incorrectly detected, so i'm 800x600@60hz... dpkg-reconfigure?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: ?
[09:13] <xbmc666> i have an htpc antec fusion v2 with an lcd panel, and i was wondering how i can activate it so i can type something there of my own?
[09:13] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Updating to the beta worked!
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: then reboot
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: sweet :)
[09:14] <dahlia> ty ActionParsnip, I'll try that :)
[09:14] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I thought I'd gotten the most recent version.  Thanks so much for that.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: simply put, remove everything nvidia, then reinstall it
[09:14] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Just got an error updating though... Lets see what happens
[09:14] <dahlia> kk
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: some apps like the older version though
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: wine is a bit ofa minefield
[09:15] <martin101> hello all
[09:15] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Hey, I'm glad windows is a little hard to use, it gives folk like me a job (when they're not moved overseas), but its really really nice to have a working alternative
[09:15] <martin101> how do I theme netbeans in ubuntu to look like native gnome apps?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: thats the ticket, keeps me in a job too ;)
[09:16] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: lol
[09:17] <taruz> ActionParsnip: i really dont know how to change the xorg.conf file, aron_ gave me a link, ill try to look it over, but i think i might just switch back to windows
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> taruz: you'll be battling with the file til you get a nice display
[09:18] <ce_metal_cord> arizka
[09:18] <lesshaste> how can I switch from gnome to xfce4?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> taruz: if you rinstall nvidia-glx-180 then nvidia-settings will set the display up nice for you
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:18] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I had an incredibly frustrating time trying to figure out why the network connection for one of my NICs dissapeared, and eventually figured out it was a registry key that RegistryCleaner 2009 deleted but couldn't figure out how to re-write it.  Finally, I decided I'd just reinstall windows and pop on Linux while I was at it this week to give it a go.  I like it so far, but it can be very frustrating too.  I imagine that'l
[09:18] <meglo> My gstreamer apps(rhythmbox and totem) wont even attempt to play sound, even though other applications like Adobe flash can with my properly configured sound card. How should I go about solving this?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: then log off, change session to xfce, log on
[09:18] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, thanks.. then what do I need to do?
[09:18] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, ah ok
[09:18] <lesshaste> thanks
[09:19] <lesshaste> sounds easy
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: it is
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: i stay away from those, they cause a tonne of bother
[09:20] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Definatly a double edged sword, as they say.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: you'll find it hard as you probably have many years of windows experience but not much linux
[09:21] <ce_metal_cord> olu9o
[09:21] <ce_metal_cord> haiiii
[09:21] <aeiou_> im doing a bit of probing of my dedicated server (need to secure it a bit) ive noticed we have quite a few ports open that dont need to be
[09:21] <aeiou_> what is the best way to block all access to certain ports, unless at my ip address
[09:21] <ce_metal_cord> dichhhhh pake b.indo dong ngomongnya
[09:21] <aeiou_> i wanted to leave :80 and :443 open
[09:21] <aeiou_> and maybe :22 open too (but disable root password)
[09:22] <aeiou_> anyone got any advice on securing up  a server like this?
[09:22] <justin007> how can I play .arf video on ubuntu (its a webcast I downloaded from snort site).  I tried mplayer and vlc but they are not playing.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> aeiou_: you can use iptables to lock down what you need, you can use firestarter to configure it
[09:24] <Yanick_> hi, can someone help me figure out why I cannot install tomcat6, please? Here's the output of apt-get : http://paste2.org/p/336966
[09:25] <Leoneof> anybody can help me about how to install wireless has Atheros chipset?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: try: sudo mkdir /usr/share/tomcat6
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: and try again
[09:25] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, it's already there!
[09:25] <Leoneof> this is lsusb : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/226278/
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: weird
[09:25] <Yanick_> yes
[09:25] <occupantiii> anybody know why there's no ehci-hcd kernel module anymore?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: who owns it?
[09:26] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, what?
[09:26] <Yanick_> oh
[09:26] <Yanick_> :)
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: ls -l /usr/share/tomcat6
[09:27] <aeiou_> ActionParsnip: is firestarter a gui tool?
[09:27] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, root:root
[09:27] <aeiou_> i only have access via ssh
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> aeiou_: yes
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: ok thats cool, try renaming it the retrying the install
[09:27] <[-Zhyko-]>  help with the script, I want to weed out "sed" on the mask, but after the second octet he is not work, the type of the sed- i '/ ^ xxx \. yyy \. zzz / d' / path
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> aeiou_: you can do it via CLI
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | aeiou_
[09:28] <bullgard4> System > Administration > System Monitor > Processes shows a column 'Waiting Channel'. What is a 'waiting channel'?
[09:28] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, when I remove the package tomcat6, /usr/share/tomcat6 gets deleted....
[09:28] <taruz> ActionParsnip: your last advice worked, i have a decent resolution now
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> taruz: good
[09:29] <taruz> ActionParsnip: is it ok if i ask you a few more questions?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> taruz: ask the room
[09:29] <taruz> well yeah
[09:30] <Zermus> so like I loaded up ubuntu cause I never tried it, got it installed and all
[09:30] <Zermus> and then I tried to su
[09:30] <Zermus> and now I think this is the most retarded OS ever
[09:30] <Zermus> sudo is fucking gay
[09:30] <Zermus> that is all
[09:30] <FloodBot3> Zermus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <iceroot> Zermus: what your langugae and dont spam
[09:30] <meglo> All my sound is working except for totem and rhythmbox. They seemingly load the file but refuse to play it. This happens with ogg/mp3/aac, and I have the proper codecs. What is wrong?
[09:30] <nevyn> Zermus: opinions are like assholes?
[09:31] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, I think the install/uninstall package of tomcat6 is not working, when removing tomcat6, it cannot remove /var/lib/tomcat6, complaining that the folder is not empty
[09:31] <aeiou_> ActionParsnip: should ufw be installed by default on my sever?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> aeiou_: not sure, iptables will be though
[09:31] <iceroot> aeiou_: it is installed but not activate
[09:32] <taruz> now that i have a geforce 9400gt working with ubuntu, i would like to use the integrated graphic card of my motherboard, how can i achieve that'
[09:32] <Gorillaz> Help!!! I cant login into Ubuntu ...I get a "The greeter application appears to be crashing”  at time of logging in
[09:32] <iceroot> taruz: enable the onboard-card in the bios
[09:32] <taruz> if i change the default card on the bios to the integrated one, the geforce wont work
[09:32] <JoAnneThrax> My computer keeps resetting the volume to zero and muting it on every reboot.  One workaround is to create a startup file with this script: sleep 1
[09:32] <JoAnneThrax> amixer sset Master 50% on
[09:33] <JoAnneThrax> What file, prey tell, would be best for me to place this in?
[09:33] <nevyn> ummm... don't do that?
[09:33] <JoAnneThrax> No?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Gorillaz: http://liltux.wordpress.com/2007/09/05/how-to-fix-the-error-the-greeter-application-appears-to-be-crashing-in-ubuntu/
[09:34] <Gorillaz> ActionParsnip : I try doing that
[09:34] <nevyn> JoAnneThrax: there should be stuff in the distro already to save the current mixer settings and restore them on boot
[09:34] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support by following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, but while display is otherwise ok, there's no 3d support. My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why "NVidia", since I have a Radeon card - my previous card was NVidia. Could this point to the source of my problem? Any idea on how to pr
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> JoAnneThrax: my system does that. I wrote a script to run at startup to set the volumes and unmute
[09:34] <Gorillaz> ActionParsnip : I cant find the line GtkModulesList=gail in my gdm.conf file
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Gorillaz: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=43776
[09:35] <JoAnneThrax> ActionParsnip: And what do I do to get that script executed on startup?
[09:35] <shay26> Hello , does it possible to upgrade ubuntu to newer version (my current version is 7.10
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[09:35] <shay26> Hello , does it possible to upgrade ubuntu to newer version (my current version is 7.10) from remote terminal ?
[09:35] <jpds> shay26: Yes.
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | shay26
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> use gentoo
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> Were no strangers to love
[09:36] <joey_> how can i add right click un install to the menu like mint 7
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> You know the rules and so do i
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Gorillaz: do you have free space on your partitions?
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> A full commitments what Im thinking of
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> You wouldnt get this from any other guy
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> I just wanna tell you how Im feeling
[09:36] <jrib> MichaelKthx: stop please
[09:36] <MichaelKthx> Gotta make you understand
[09:36] <Gorillaz>  ActionParsnip i think so
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Gorillaz: df -h   will show you
[09:37] <aeiou_> ActionParsnip: maybe you could help here? I want to block everything except :80  :443 and ssh unless it comes from my ip address
[09:37] <aeiou_> http://codepad.org/RAw9Bqi7
[09:37] <JoAnneThrax> ActionParsnip: I don't boot into gnome
[09:37] <shay26> jpds: does "Ubuntu 7.10 gusty" can be upgraded to newer version ?
[09:37] <JoAnneThrax> Not generally, at least.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Gorillaz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/55566
[09:37] <jrib> !upgrade > shay26
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> JoAnneThrax: what do you boot to?
[09:38] <JoAnneThrax> Generally Windowmaker, at the moment.
[09:38] <lstarnes> shay26: also, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:38] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, tried to compile the sources..... won't work either. I get some dependency problems (why???) http://paste2.org/p/336982
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> JoAnneThrax: then make window maker run the script when you login. I don't use it myself but whatever it uses, add your script
[09:39] <Leoneof> anybody can help me about how to install wireless has Atheros chipset?
[09:39] <speedhunt3r> help, I am missing 11 gb from my ext3 partition. Gparted says 11gb free, nautilus says 0 bytes free... I can't store any file without freeing up space, is this a bug? linux ate my 11 gigs?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: what's the output of:  ls -l /home/yanick/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[09:39] <nevyn> JoAnneThrax: so yeah you need to do the crazy script thing..
[09:39] <jrib> speedhunt3r: df -h  on pastebin
[09:39] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip:  -rw------- 1 yanick yanick 38 2009-05-24 08:45 /home/yanick/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: ok thats good
[09:40] <Spikemcc> I want my ubuntu iso always fresh, what is the best jigdo or torrent ? minimal cd, alternate, server, desktop or dvd ?
[09:40] <JoAnneThrax> nevyn: Yeah, I figured that.  Just wasn't sure where to put said script.
[09:40] <Yanick_> the date is wrong though :) we're on the 23, not 24 lol
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: you need to work out how to satisfy: default-jdk debhelper
[09:40] <Yanick_> oh
[09:40] <Yanick_> nm
[09:40] <dam0> hey
[09:41] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, but default-jdk installs open-jdk
[09:41] <Yanick_> I have sun-java6 installed
[09:41] <dam0> i have a intel Pentium D with 2 gig of ram, im wondering how many slots would my mother board have?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Yanick_: maybe you need default-jdk-dev
[09:41] <jrib> dam0: google your motherboard
[09:41] <Yanick_> hmm...
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> dam0: we can't tell from that. Plus this is ubuntu support, try #hardware
[09:41] <Spikemcc> dam0 open your tower ...
[09:41] <dam0> yea
[09:41] <dam0> and?
[09:42] <iceroot> dam0: look there?
[09:42] <dam0> lol
[09:42] <iceroot> dam0: count the slots?
[09:42] <mOrO^> hehe
[09:42] <dam0> ok
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: simple isn't it .. ;)
[09:42] <speedhunt3r> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/226459/ the parition in question is /media/Media
[09:42] <Ileden> is there a way to get a list of packages I've manually installed to my ubuntu? Preferably in a way I can then tell another ubuntu to install them?
[09:42] <Yanick_> ActionParsnip, there is no default-jdk-dev and default-jdk requires open-jdk, which conflicts with sun-java6
[09:42] <Gorillaz> ActionParsnip : i tried doing chmod 1777 /tmp as root...still am not able to login
[09:42] <Slart> !clone | Ileden
[09:42] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: i thought it is... :)
[09:42] <Spikemcc> damn noobs ... outch I'm rude now !!! simple but unclear for them, I cannot understand that ...
[09:43] <dahlia> ActionParsnip, I reinstalled everything according to your command, and now I get get 1360x768, but I should be able to get 1680x1050
[09:43] <xyleborus> can some one help me to disable dansguardian??
[09:43] <jrib> speedhunt3r: by default some of the drive is reserved for root usage.  Disable/modify the mount using tune2fs if you want
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: then you will need to run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and add the modeline
[09:43] <Ileden> Slart: thanks!
[09:44] <dahlia> modeline?
[09:44] <shay26> jpds: all the guides refer to gui upgrade .. how can i do upgrade from the terminal ?
[09:44] <xyleborus> can some one help me to disable dansguardian??
[09:44] <Spikemcc> iceroot jigdo or torrent, and which type of iso is the best for someone that know well how to setup ubuntu ?
[09:44] <dam0> i counted them, i have 4 slots all full, i guess there is 4 x 512ram sticks, how can i find out how mutch ram it is compatible with?
[09:44] <speedhunt3r> jrib, man, 11gb is alot to be stored for root storage, and why would root want to store stuff in my media parition? its not my root parition...
[09:44] <iceroot> dahlia: the resolution ActionParsnip menas
[09:44] <jrib> dam0: google your motherboard
[09:44] <CTShadow> i'd like to install Kolab on my ubuntu 8.04. is there a way to do this via the repositories or a .deb package?
[09:44] <dahlia> kk trying...
[09:44] <Slart> Spikemcc: why not use the minimal install and go from there... install what you need
[09:45] <iceroot> Spikemcc: minimal or alternate is fine
[09:45] <jrib> speedhunt3r: because by default when you create an ext3 partition 5% is reserved for root
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> dam0: look at the board itselffor markings, one will tell you what board it is and you can wesearch it or ead to the manufacturers site
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> dam0: you can also read your manual
[09:45] <iceroot> dam0: look at the motherbaord manual
[09:45] <speedhunt3r> jrib, I just deleted one file and it says 367MB free in nautilus and gparted says 12.36gb free
[09:45] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: you are to fast for me :)
[09:45] <dam0> i havent got a manual
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: i use cli mostly dude ;)
[09:45] <iceroot> dam0: google a manual
[09:46] <jrib> speedhunt3r: right because one takes into account that space is reserved for root and the other doesn't I assume
[09:46] <Spikemcc> yep but I think to use a repository or something more suited to softwares I need no more no less got an idea ?
[09:46] <dahlia> ActionParsnip, there are no resolutions in that file at all
[09:46] <jrib> speedhunt3r: like I said, change the amount, root doesn't need 11gb
[09:46] <bartmon> Hi! I have an offline install and i need to install some packages with it. How can I only download certain debs from the repos with apt-get and where are they stored. Thanks!
[09:46] <dahlia> is there an example anywhere?
[09:46] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: same here but it is early in the morning, so i am sleeping a little bit, that is your advantage
[09:46] <speedhunt3r> jrib, yeah how do i do that?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: then run:   gksudo nvidia-settings
[09:46] <jrib> speedhunt3r: use tune2fs, search its man page for the word "reserved"
[09:46] <speedhunt3r> jrib, the funny thing is it happened one day after updates...it wasn't like this before
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: and set a res, then click "write to xorg.conf"
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: it will then populate
[09:47] <dahlia> kk, trying
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: reopen the file and manually edit it
[09:47] <jrib> speedhunt3r: use Accessories -> Disk Usage Analyzer to find big files but root always had this reserved space
[09:48] <Spikemcc> !minimal cd
[09:49] <Spikemcc> !minimal
[09:49] <jrib> shay26: the guides should have server instructions too which don't use the gui
[09:49] <Leoneof> anybody can help me about how to install wireless has Atheros chipset?
[09:49] <jrib> !wifi > Leoneof
[09:49] <CTShadow> i'd like to install Kolab on my ubuntu 8.04. is there a way to do this via the repositories or a .deb package?
[09:49] <speedhunt3r> jrib, is there a way to schedule a disk check on reboot for my parition? touch /ext2fsck /dev/sda2 or something.. would that recover the space?
[09:50] <ibrar> I am compiling kernel
[09:50] <Leoneof> jrib, it's not work :`( , i'm newbie
[09:50] <ibrar> using this command
[09:50] <ibrar> CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 AUTOBUILD=1 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic
[09:50] <CTShadow> !Kolab > CTShadow
[09:50] <Yanick_> This page : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/tomcat.html should mention that tomcat6 requires open-jdk, or else it won't install
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> CTShadow: apt-cace search kolab
[09:50] <jrib> speedhunt3r: touch forcefsck on the partition's root but that wouldn't give you space, no.  Lower the percentage of reserved blocks on the partition.
[09:50] <Spikemcc> does the alternate can be installed like the minimal cd or it put some junk on install ?
[09:50] <ibrar> But it does not compile my changes in route.c which i did manually
[09:50] <jrib> Leoneof: what didn't work exactly?
[09:50] <iceroot> Yanick_: openjdk or sun-java6-jdk
[09:51] <iceroot> Yanick_: of course it is needing java, because tomcat is a server for hosting java-apps
[09:51] <Leoneof> it is USB Wireless EnGunies EUB-362 EXT
[09:51] <Leoneof> it is USB Wireless EnGunies EUB-362 EXT
[09:51] <Yanick_> iceroot, sun-java6 is installed, but tomcat6 will not install
[09:51] <Leoneof> oops
[09:51] <jrib> Spikemcc: alternate install the same as ubuntu-desktop, just with a different installer
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: the alternate install uses a text istall rather than a fancy gui install of the desktop. The minimal CD installs the OS from the repos
[09:51] <Leoneof> this is lsusb : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/226278/
[09:52] <jrib> Leoneof: which instructions are you following from the !wifi link ubottu gave you that didn't work exactly?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof: can you also provide a pastebin of: sudo lshw -C network
[09:52] <Spikemcc> so minimal cd is better to install a minimal ubuntu ?
[09:52] <Yanick_> iceroot, compiling the source package, it complains that default-jdk is not present, but default-jdk is part of open-jdk build-dep
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: yes, you can choose exactly what you want
[09:52] <NET||abuse> hey guys, i'm trying to get my audio from a desktop machine without speakers to my laptop, setup paprefs on laptop to allow connections, now in pavucontrol on desktop, the laptop seems to appear intermittently..... i ran pulseaudio  in non daemon mode and got the output in terminal... here it is... http://pastebin.com/d5acc1dbd
[09:52] <iceroot> Yanick_: compiling? there is a binary at the tomcat-page
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: i use it to install a base ubuntu CLI system then install LXDE then the apps I need
[09:52] <Yanick_> iceroot, which won't install
[09:52] <NET||abuse> anyone able to help me fix this weird glitchy behaviour?
[09:52] <iceroot> Yanick_: also it is in the repos (but old version)
[09:53] <Yanick_> iceroot, sudo apt-get install tomcat6 is not working here
[09:53] <Leoneof> jrib, everyone gave me the solution here in chat, but it didn't work , but your link about Guide, i don't know which one i must choose
[09:53] <Yanick_> iceroot, also, sudo apt-get remove tomcat6 doesn't remove /var/lib/tomcat6
[09:53] <jrib> Leoneof: the one for your card
[09:53] <Leoneof> ActionsParsnip, ok
[09:53] <e-0> hey. how can i start the text-installer from the live-cd?
[09:54] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip, i did this and the menu is still hiddenhttp://pastebin.com/m4067c5e2
[09:54] <lancerocke> http://pastebin.com/m4067c5e2
[09:54] <jrib> e-0: pretty sure you need the alternate cd
[09:54] <lancerocke> i commented hiddenmenu out
[09:54] <allu2> get 4 more user here :P
[09:54] <eeos> has anyone tried ubuntu with buffalo terastations?
[09:55] <jrib> Yanick_: dpkg -S /var/lib/tomcat6
[09:55] <e-0> jrib, thanks
[09:55] <Spikemcc> my big duel is 32 bits vs 64 bits ... mostly apps an repositories are 32 bits even drivers and stuff like that are harder to install in 64 bits but I'm compatible with 64 bits... mostly I have hardy 64 bits and firefox is bugging me randomly ...
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> lancerocke: when you edit it you need to run:  sudo update-grub
[09:55] <speedhunt3r> jrib, does reducing the reserved block have any drawbacks?
[09:55] <Yanick_> iceroot, http://paste2.org/p/337005
[09:55] <jrib> speedhunt3r: not on a media partition like that, no
[09:55] <Yanick_> jrib, trying...
[09:56] <shay26> when i am using remote terminal (ssh access) and i do "sudo apt-get upgrade" how can i know if i need to restart the servers for the new updates ? does the terminal will print some restart request ?
[09:56] <aeiou_> could anyone tell me how to remove the rule with the comment #want to remove this
[09:56] <aeiou_> http://codepad.org/F9Plz5om
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: all apps are compiled for 32 and 64 bits, flash and java used to be a pain but now they are as easy as 32bit
[09:56] <lancerocke> ActionParsnip, thanks
[09:56] <allu2> is there anyone who would have /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_alsa.so and could copy it and send to me?
[09:56] <aeiou_> (ip tables rule via cli)
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: 32bit will work on any system though
[09:56] <allu2> with 32bit arc
[09:56] <Yanick_> jrib, tomcat6: /var/lib/tomcat6
[09:56] <jrib> Yanick_: purge it
[09:56] <aeiou_> im not sure what the delete command will match against
[09:56] <Leoneof> jrib, so hard O_O
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: if you try the 64bit beta flash plugin you may get some joy, you will need to uninstall the flash you have now though
[09:57] <Yanick_> jrib, sudo apt-get purge tomcat6 gives this : http://paste2.org/p/337008
[09:57] <Spikemcc> some stuff in 64 bits are more buggy and I new to make the kernel for some drivers
[09:57] <aeiou_> aah they have a line number
[09:58] <Spikemcc> 64 bits flash isn't beta anymore ???
[09:58] <jrib> Yanick_: because there's custom stuff in there I assume.  Delete it manually if you wish
[09:58] <dahlia> now I have 640x480 :(
[09:58] <Yanick_> jrib, I did before I installed tomcat6
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[09:58] <shay26> Hello , if i using ssh access and making "sudo apt-get upgrade" how can i know if the server need to be restarted after the upgrade ?
[09:58] <Spikemcc> dahlia try envyng
[09:58] <dahlia> envyng?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> !envy | dahlia
[09:59] <Yanick_> jrib, the point is that the install script is not working and I don't know why, neither to install or remove the package
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> !envy | Spikemcc
[09:59] <speedhunt3r> is there a way to burn .cue movie using basero?  I try to burn it says required plugins missing
[09:59] <Spikemcc> I used it here with my ati on hardy and it worked well...
[09:59] <jrib> Yanick_: what do you mean by the "installed script is not working"?  Aren't you removing the package?
[09:59] <Spikemcc> I know for risks ... but I like the board game so ...
[10:00] <Yanick_> jrib, I said "the install script" , the package install script
[10:00] <Slart> speedhunt3r: you can convert cue/bin to iso if you want.. although it's odd that brasero doesn't do cue/bin
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: s/he is using an nvidia card, it is hugely supported and doesnt need garbage like envy screwing things up
[10:00] <jrib> Yanick_: can you please just ask what you are actually trying to do?
[10:00] <Yanick_> jrib, install tomcat6 like the page here : https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/tomcat.html is telling me to
[10:00] <speedhunt3r> Slart, i try to play it directly with vlc, but i can't seek and 10 minutes in the audio dies
[10:00] <Yanick_> jrib, I want to install tomcat6 plain in simple
[10:00] <jrib> Yanick_: ok do that and pastebin the commands and errors you receive
[10:01] <Yanick_> jrib, I did!
[10:01] <jrib> Yanick_: I haven't seen it
[10:01] <Yanick_> jrib, http://paste2.org/p/337005
[10:01] <Spikemcc> ActionParsnip, I was supposing that he tried the documentation on nvidia ...
[10:01] <th0r> how can I change the mimetype info for a certain extension. I simply want .dat to be an unidentified filetype
[10:01] <Yanick_> jrib, just says that it failed
[10:01] <Yanick_> no reason
[10:01] <Spikemcc> envyng saved me on 800x600 in my case
[10:02] <dahlia> wow envyng can restart my computer even if I dont use sudo
[10:02] <jrib> Yanick_: have you now purged and deleted all tomcat6-related files?
[10:02] <Yanick_> jrib, it says that "Not creating /usr/share/tomcat6" but the directory is there after install (wasn't there before)
[10:02] <Yanick_> jrib, I think I did
[10:02] <jrib> Yanick_: can you verify /usr/share/tomcat6 does not exist currently?
[10:02] <eeos> has anyone tried ubuntu with buffalo terastations? I would like to buy one and we only use *buntu .... so I was wondering whether it would be a good idea. I was interested in compatibility issues ....
[10:03] <Yanick_> jrib, I did a sudo find / -name tomcat* and all I got was some .so in the sun's java directory
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> eeos: looks like a NAS, if windows can access it then linux will be able to. Give them an email to check
[10:04] <jrib> Yanick_: run the install command again and pastebin
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> eeos: or check the hcl
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> !hcl > eeos
[10:04] <Spikemcc> yikes flash 64 bits is just a prerelease ... mostly junk
[10:04] <jrib> Spikemcc: actually it works pretty well...
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: runs amazingly here
[10:05] <eeos> ActionParsnip: they are NAS ....
[10:05] <Spikemcc> I think I have it and it's junk here ... the screen make black squares and rectangles randomly on youtube stuff
[10:06] <Yanick_> jrib, after removing tomcat6 and all it's directories, this is what I get (finding any files with tomcat in it) http://paste2.org/p/337023
[10:06] <Slart> Spikemcc: yes, that's right.. we would never have mentioned that
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> eeos: yes, network attatched storage
[10:06] <Slart> Spikemcc: or.. you might just trust what we say
[10:06] <jrib> Spikemcc: "I think I have it"?
[10:07] <Spikemcc> yeah I installed it but not sure to be that exact version but that seem to be it
[10:07] <goab> hello all
[10:08] <Spikemcc> does flash 10 is auto-installed on 32 bits ?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: no, it must be installed manually
[10:08] <Spikemcc> by ubuntu-restricted-extras or another package ?
[10:08] <jrib> Spikemcc: if you used the repositories to install flash on 64bit, then you are using 32bit flash with nspluginwrapper
[10:09] <xr600> Having problems with proftpd on ubuntu... It seems to resolve it's ip to the one on my local network, whch causes problems when I try to access it from outside. Anyone got a clue on why ?!
[10:10] <Slart> xr600: isn't there a "listen" directive in a configuration file where you can set it to listen to the external interface?
[10:10] <cee_cuteezz> jelita
[10:10] <Slart> xr600: or.. to start with.. does the machine that run proftpd have a network card that is connected directly to the internet? ie has an external ip?
[10:11] <Spikemcc> so 64 bits still immature on linux as on windows, not pure 64 bits, some apps are still not real releases, not all softwares are 64 bits precompiled for ubuntu ... mostly 64 bits is still immature a little almost ready ...
[10:11] <meglo> I'm trying to figure out why rhythmbox/totem(gstreamer) do not play any audio unlike other applications. Here is what I got from some example at launchpad for gst-launch: http://pastebin.com/me216610 Should I try to use the xine backend instead or something?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: the restricted extras package is a metapackage for lots of goodies folks usually want. i prefer to install my own stuff but it installnice things like fonts and other restricted stuff
[10:11] <yu5uv> hi
[10:11] <xr600> Hm... I set the port up correctly. The FTP client is indeed contacting the server as well, but fails when entering passive mode because the ip is the one from my local network...
[10:11] <[nrx]> I'm looking for help in creating a bootable USB stick with the LiveCD image. Every avenue I've tried has failed so far. This is to boot up a Macbook with no hard drive in it.
[10:11] <lionel_> hi all
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: i find 64bit very mature
[10:11] <Slart> Spikemcc: works very nicely for me
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: all apps in the repos are 64bit and 32bit, you can even run 32bit apps if you install ia32-libs
[10:12] <xr600> DOH !... I solved it already...
[10:12] <Spikemcc> it work here but some stuff are way longer to install on it ...
[10:12] <meglo> Spikemcc: You'll have to run some 32bit libs to get flash working, but ubuntu handles it for you automatically.
[10:12] <maxwheel> hello,new to ubuntu. anyone know of nice and light games?
[10:12] <jrib> Spikemcc: there aren't really any big issues with 64bit linux anymore...
[10:12] <meglo> maxwheel: nethack.
[10:12] <xr600> -Just needed the fulle hostname, as I specified it in hosts.conf...
[10:12] <lionel_> My vmware_player (2.5.0) randomly crashes the X server on ubuntu (9.04). Is it a know problem?
[10:13] <Spikemcc> and firefox mostly suck I can't find why
[10:13] <Slart> !games | maxwheel
[10:13] <maxwheel> meglo: does that work offline?
[10:13] <Slart> maxwheel: you might want to have a look at happypenguin.org too
[10:13] <xr600> ... Sorry 'bout that guys... My stupidity...
[10:13] <Slart> xr600: no worries
[10:13] <meglo> maxwheel: Yes, disregard the 'net' in the name.
[10:14] <maxwheel> meglo: ok. trying out now. thanks
[10:14] <Spikemcc> got 2 versions of firefox and the two work badly
[10:14] <xr600> Slart: ThX... Sometimes you just make the most horrible mistakes ;(
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Spikemcc: disable addons in firefox safemode til you get a success
[10:14] <Slart> xr600: indeed.. we've all been there.
[10:15] <dahlia> could someone pastebin me a xorg.conf that shows how to add 1680x1050 for nvidia?
[10:15] <dahlia> all I can get is 640x480
[10:15] <dahlia> even after running that envyng thing
[10:15] <Slart> dahlia: can you pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:15] <mabi> hi folks, i've got a question: can i somehow update the packages on a hardy install-cd (i.e. include packages from hardy-updates), so a new hardy install will not have to download some ~100MB initially?
[10:16] <Slart> !pastebin | dahlia
[10:16] <younet> hi
[10:17] <deveah__> hai
[10:17] <younet> slt
[10:17] <younet> how are you ?
[10:17] <Bart_> HI
[10:17] <younet> welcom
[10:17] <oli_> I've got 3 identical-looking disks plugged in. Two are in RAID1, the other is just a disk. I want to remove the single disk but I can't work out which I need to unplug. Any suggestions? Can I get the serial number that's printed on the disks from within ubuntu?
[10:18] <Bart_> I have a problem with samba: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT         Can someone help me with this please? =)
[10:18] <dahlia> Slart, http://pastebin.com/m562976e3
[10:18] <Slart> oli_: perhaps smartctl can get you serial numbers
[10:18] <Slart> dahlia: ok, will have a look
[10:18] <dahlia> ty :)
[10:19] <erick_> in the answers do you write manually the name of the people that make questions here?
[10:19] <[nrx]> I'm looking for help in creating a bootable USB stick with the LiveCD image. Every avenue I've tried has failed so far. This is to boot up a Macbook with no hard drive in it.
[10:19] <lionel_> My vmware_player (2.5.0) randomly crashes the X server on ubuntu (9.04) when the cursor goes out of the vmplayer window. How can I solve that (I don't find something similar on google).
[10:20] <Dreamglider> Can i restart X without logging out and back in, in order to turn on a secondary screen plugged in after the system started ?
[10:20] <Slart> dahlia: ok, if you look at line 231, it says it can't read EDID for your monitor. It works kind of like plug'n'play.. the monitor tells the graphics card what resolutions it can do and so on.. but this doesn't work on your system right now
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: try adding the line:     socket options = TCP_NODELAY
[10:20] <erick_> hi
[10:21] <dahlia> so do I need a driver for my monitor or something?
[10:21] <Slart> dahlia: so what we can do is to add this info to your xorg.conf manually.. do you know what horiz and vertical frequencies your monitor can handle?
[10:21] <dahlia> not really
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: no, the monitor will be detected for you
[10:21] <dahlia> 70ish I guess
[10:21] <Slart> dahlia: what is the max resolution?
[10:21] <dahlia> 1680x1050
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: my crt doesnt rreport modelines so i must populate the file manually
[10:21] <Bart_> ActionParsnip, to samba config?
[10:21] <Slart> dahlia: ok... hang on
[10:22] <erick_> how do yo do to write dahlia in every answer???
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:22] <dahlia> lol
[10:22] <Slart> erick_: I press D then A then H and so on
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> erick_: write dahl and press tab
[10:22] <erick_> ooohhhh
[10:22] <agent42> Dreamglider: see chrisjohnston.org/2009/re-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-904
[10:22] <ubuntu> whats the program to use if i need to find out whats behind a certain IP addr f.ex is firewall and what kind
[10:22] <erick_> i am new here
[10:22] <erick_> in the irc world
[10:22] <dahlia> :)
[10:23] <erick_> thanks
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dahlia: use my xorg.conf as a template (http://pastebin.com/f2754732c) then change the refresh rates and resolutions as you need
[10:23] <allu2> hi erick_ :)
[10:23] <dahlia> ty ActionParsnip :)
[10:23] <erick_> hi allu2
[10:23] <xr600_> Hm... didn't work all too well actually. Anyone knows how proftpd resolves ip addresses ?!
[10:23] <Bart_> ActionParsnip, Doesn't help still same problem
[10:24] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support by following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, but while display is otherwise ok, there's no 3d support. My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why "NVidia", since I have a Radeon card - my previous card was NVidia. Could this point to the source of my problem? Any idea on how to pr
[10:24] <allu2> aftyer fighting 4 hours with alsa i removed one config file and everything works again, some how everything feels pointless now :P
[10:24] <Dreamglider> agent42, that willl log out of X yes ?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: how about if (on the window system) you open an explorer and type \\<servername> do you see the share(s)
[10:25] <Dreamglider> agent42, i was wondering if i can attach/start the external monitor without restarting X
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: if that fails, try by ip
[10:26] <Bart_> ActionParsnip, Can't reach it by name of IP I get timeout
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: does the ip ping?
[10:26] <Bart_> ActionParsnip, yes it does
[10:27] <Bart_> so I think connection is ok
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: ok try: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:27] <myxo> are there any programs similar to skype on Ubuntu that i can get in contact with people speaking spanish, portuguese, japanese, chinese..... etc?
[10:28] <Bart_> ActionParsnip, doesn't help but at samba shutdown I always see this message "start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 6949: No such process
[10:28] <Bart_> " I don't know if this is normal?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: no its not
[10:28] <erickcion> myxo, i thin softphone is like skype
[10:28] <erickcion> myxo, i think softphone is like skype
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Bart_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install samba
[10:28] <myxo> erickcion yea?
[10:29] <erickcion> myxo, i am not really sure but i think that
[10:30] <Spikemcc> someone has a tutorial to install hardy with the minimal cd with lxde packages and repositories ...
[10:30] <Dextorion> hi hi
[10:31] <Slart> dahlia: did the template from actionparsnip work?
[10:31] <dahlia> it helped, still trying to find the proper settings
[10:31] <dahlia> reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648349
[10:32] <Slart> dahlia: you can start by just setting the horiz and vertical frequency.. sometimes thats enough
[10:32] <Slart> dahlia: the lines starting with "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh"
[10:32] <dahlia> well I got it to 1024x768 again at least
[10:33] <xerox1> anyone using a thinkpad t400 and willing to tell me how it works?
[10:33] <gajop> when using a fullscreen application, and going to another workplace and clicking on another, then going back to the workplace where the virtual application is, it isn't in fullscreen (until i click on it again), even though it has focus, is this a bug?
[10:34] <Roland> xerox1, google might know
[10:34] <xerox1> yeah, but most of the time you can't have a real conversation with google ;)
[10:35] <xerox1> wanted to here a bit more about the experience made by the users...
[10:35] <mabi> someone knows where i can find ppl who fool around with install-cd customization?
[10:41] <linduxed> ive got some network secrets stored on one of my laptops, is there some way i can export them?
[10:42] <kripz> Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0
[10:43] <GSF1200S> anyone know how to get the systray applet to work on a second monitor or a seperate (2nd) X session?
[10:44] <GSF1200S> exaile will only go to the system tray on my first X session or monitor
[10:49] <dahlia> :(
[10:49] <ecolitan> hay guys
[10:50] <mabi> hm, knoppix starts fine, jaunty starts fine but hardy refuses to recognize my sata disk - is there a known problem with that?
[10:50] <ecolitan> kernel panic during upgrade 8.04 -> 8.10 , now system doesnt boot any ideas?
[10:51] <GSF1200S> what is the reason it gives for the kernel panic?
[10:51] <ecolitan> well let me read it to you
[10:51] <GSF1200S> ok...
[10:51] <GSF1200S> haha
[10:52] <ecolitan> not syncing: VFS : unable to mount root fs in unknown-block(0,0)
[10:52] <GSF1200S> do you get to any kind of prompt?
[10:52] <ecolitan> no, total frozen
[10:54] <Spikemcc> why use 8.10 when you have a good trouble free Long term support release ?
[10:54] <GSF1200S> run a live cd, figure out which partition is root, and run fsck. So if it was /dev/sda1 run sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[10:54] <ecolitan> was making the upgrade up to 9.04 in two stages
[10:54] <bmf> hello
[10:54] <[nrx]> hello
[10:54] <bmf> how are you
[10:54] <[nrx]> how are you
[10:55] <frogzoo> 1341 people reply "hello"
[10:55] <bmf> fine
[10:55] <[nrx]> good.
[10:55] <GSF1200S> check /etc/fstab against /dev/disk/by-uuid to make sure the correct uuid is being used
[10:55] <Spikemcc> ecolitan non LTS releases are not the best in my book ...
[10:55] <GSF1200S> should be
[10:55] <[nrx]> short, but sweet visit
[10:56] <ecolitan> GSF1200S ok i'm on it :)
[10:56] <GSF1200S> ecolitan- seriously try doing that and...
[10:56] <Spikemcc> stable release are decent for a live usb ou live cd ... but I won't use them as my desktop ...
[10:56] <Twittery> ecolitan : Do you have any other OS running in that PC
[10:56] <GSF1200S> keep in mind- you have a kernel panic because the partition is not mounting- all you have to do is figure out why
[10:56] <mabi> Spikemcc: gotta use that if you're stuck with legacy apps
[10:57] <Spikemcc> legacy apps there is repositories for that
[10:57] <[nrx]> is/are/g
[10:57] <GSF1200S> ecolitan- it actually could also be /boot or init is corrupted.. does anyone in here know how to regenerate init via a live cd
[10:58] <ecolitan> GSF1200S lets see first what fscking does
[10:58] <GSF1200S> k
[10:58] <ecolitan> GSF1200S hasnt got into the livecd yet :(
[10:58] <linduxed> ive got some network secrets stored on one of my laptops, is there some way i can export them?
[10:59] <GSF1200S> linduxed.. umm, you mean via a network?
[10:59] <Spikemcc> ubuntu come from debian that is the best stable linux of all, ubuntu is based on unstable debian so an LTS is a good bet, but a stable release is like putting a lighten matche in gasoline ...
[10:59] <[nrx]> network secrets?
[10:59] <mabi> hm, but speaking of the live cd - is there any way to update the packages on it?
[10:59] <GSF1200S> roll your own mabi
[10:59] <linduxed> GSF1200S: no just generally export them. i want to have my wifi passwords exported to another laptop
[11:00] <GSF1200S> i think apt on cd allows you to do something like that
[11:00] <mabi> GSF1200S: doing that right know - i've got a custom hardy based cd
[11:00] <Spikemcc> in more regular terms, you should have the perfect hardware for a non LTS release ... Nvidia graphic card and stuff like that ...
[11:00] <linduxed> GSF1200S: dont want to get passwords for all the wifi APs again
[11:00] <BigMack83> i used the command: "find . -type f -exec chmod 664 \{\} \;" to set all files in the current directory to a given permission. but the only exception is there is one file name that is repeated multiple times in different dir's, how would I change the command to search only for a given file name recursively and change the perm?
[11:00] <Spikemcc> mabi not really ...
[11:00] <mabi> but still figuring out how to include updated versions of the CD's packages
[11:01] <Spikemcc> make a live usb if you want fresh live session apps
[11:01] <GSF1200S> ehh... i dont know man- im not sure where gnome-network manager stores the passwords
[11:01] <GSF1200S> if it even stores in plain text- its prolly the gnome-keyring actually
[11:01] <GSF1200S> i dont know a whole lot about gnome
[11:01] <GSF1200S> i use KDE and OB mostly
[11:02] <GSF1200S> anyone in here have or have had dual monitors using gnome?
[11:02] <Spikemcc> I don't know how you do I can't stand kde look at all ...
[11:02] <ecolitan> GSF1200S ok, I have hd1/2/3 and have fsck'ed and they are clean, apart from 2 which was swap
[11:02] <iceroot> GSF1200S: yes
[11:02] <iceroot> GSF1200S: why not ask a real question?
[11:03] <GSF1200S> iceroot- hold one sec.. trying to help ecolitan.. cool?
[11:03] <Spikemcc> amarok and kcontrol where the only kde softwares I ever used ...
[11:03] <GSF1200S> try rebooting and see what happens- fsck will automagically clean the filesystem often
[11:03] <BigMack83> how would i change the command: "find . -type f -exec chmod 664 \{\} \;" to only find a given file name and change its permissoins?
[11:04] <Spikemcc> ok I start the flamewar gnome or kde ?
[11:04] <ecolitan> GSF1200S k
[11:04] <[nrx]> find . -name "*.extension" -exec blahblah
[11:04] <GSF1200S> iceroot- does the systray applet work on your second X session? I cant get any systray apps to minimize to tray on my second desktop- but the first is fine
[11:04] <BigMack83> [nrx]:  thanks. giving it a try...
[11:05] <Dekko> Will someone here please help me? I am using the Nvidia drivers (latest version off their website) and all works GREAT except I run two monitors and separate X Servers.... It blacks out the screens when I try to go to a text console.... CTRL-ALT-F2 for example. Can this be fixed?
[11:05] <jack2> how to convert .rws file to text file?
[11:06] <kdub> use the conversion tool
[11:06] <GSF1200S> Dekko- one screen (the 2nd) will always go blank going to console- i have 2 screens like you
[11:06] <BigMack83> [nrx]:  perfect thanks
[11:06] <[nrx]> BigMack83: no problem :)
[11:07] <GSF1200S> if both go black- gimme a minute and ill try to help you
[11:07] <GSF1200S> ecolitan- any luck?
[11:07] <ecolitan> GSF1200S you mentioned that I should check fstab against /dev/disk/<someing>
[11:08] <ecolitan> GSF1200S i've mounted /dev/hda1 and taken a look at fstab , but dont know what the other place is
[11:08] <GSF1200S> yeah.. you can, but it should be fine,, nothing should modify fstab
[11:08] <GSF1200S> ecolitan....
[11:08] <koshari> ecolitan that would be the mount placeholder
[11:08] <BigMack83> in a bash script, how do i pull the current users username to use it in the script?
[11:08] <ecolitan> GSF1200S ok then will reboot and see if the fsck did anything
[11:08] <GSF1200S> ive had issues because I formatted root but made a copy of xorg.conf and fstab- restored fstab abd
[11:09] <iceroot> GSF1200S: sorry, never tried that
[11:09] <GSF1200S> forgot to change uuid- boom.. kernel panic
[11:09] <GSF1200S> iceroot- cool, oh well, thanks
[11:09] <Dekko> GSF1200S: But both screens go black. I can switch back to X with CTRL-ALT-F7... but no text console.
[11:09] <GSF1200S> dekko- whats it doing exactly
[11:09] <ecolitan> GSF1200S my worst so far was deleting the contents of /etc/group once
[11:09] <ecolitan> :P
[11:10] <GSF1200S> haha..
[11:10] <GSF1200S> nice
[11:10] <Dekko> GSF1200S: If I use Twinview instead (stretch desktop) of separate X then I can go to Text Mode Prompt (Console) .....
[11:10] <ecolitan> still panicky
[11:10] <GSF1200S> ive done all sorts of crazy studd
[11:10] <GSF1200S> stuff*
[11:11] <Dekko> Good thing Norton Ghost (latest version) can back up Linux systems fully. :)
[11:11] <GSF1200S> hmmm... dekko- give me a few so i can help ecolitan
[11:11] <ecolitan> GSF1200S when i interupt grub it still can boot into the previous kernel ok
[11:11] <Dekko> GSF1200S: No problem. I'll have my cup of tea in the meanwhile....
[11:11] <GSF1200S> ecolitan, ahhh...
[11:12] <ecolitan> GSF1200S perhaps I can just clean out the half done install and start again
[11:12] <GSF1200S> hold on.. check this out
[11:12] <ecolitan> upgrade not install
[11:12] <GSF1200S> hmmm
[11:13] <GSF1200S> im not sure whether it stores the kernel logs for both kernels
[11:13] <GSF1200S> i was going to say jump in the working kernel or a live cd and check /var/log/messages and or /var/log/kernel
[11:13] <GSF1200S> maybe that will tell you something beyond the panic message.. maybe not
[11:14] <GSF1200S> however, you could delete the new kernel and try again- maybe force apt to only upgrade the kernel and headers
[11:14] <ecolitan> GSF1200S taking a look
[11:14] <GSF1200S> and go from there
[11:14] <GSF1200S> im gonna help dekko for a sec, so hold on
[11:14] <error404notfound> i have installed xserver-xorg on JeOS. How can i start x? seems like startx is not a command
[11:17] <Dekko> GSF1200: I'm back now :)
[11:17] <HypothesisFrog> hi. Do you know any howtos on how to set up a server, and direct a domain name to it?
[11:17] <GSF1200S> dekko- im on kernel 2.6.30 with gnome running on arch linux with nvidia cards, and my second screen shuts off, while the first one is lit, but is blank
[11:17] <Cryptorchild> HypothesisFrog: that's a long way journey..
[11:17] <aeiou> how do you reorder iptables rules?
[11:18] <HypothesisFrog> Cryptorchild steep learning curve?
[11:18] <trothigar> HypothesisFrog, not especially, domain setup is quite easy
[11:18] <jbk`> When I want to start a bash script or anything start-able in mc/terminal, I get an error message that "bash: command x not found"
[11:18] <GSF1200S> im running 2 nvidia 9800gtx cards going to seperate x sessions...
[11:18] <HypothesisFrog> trothigar how's it done?
[11:18] <bullgard4> '~$ mount; /dev/sda5 on /home/detlef/detlef2.' Why does '~$ sudo fuser /home/detlef/detlef2' produce no output?
[11:18] <ecolitan> GSF1200S nothing in the logs
[11:19] <jbk`> have I accidentaly changed anything? I'm kinda RAAAGE, since I can see folders when I do a little bit of them and then press tab, but it doesn't care about start-able files at all
[11:19] <Cryptorchild> HypothesisFrog: ah :) perhaps trothigar can help you
[11:19] <GSF1200S> now im curious... I usually kill X or use a terminal, but that is pretty gay..
[11:19] <Dekko> GSF1200: That is what I am getting too I think. One screen goes dead the other stays on but blank (black screen)
[11:19] <ecolitan> GSF1200S i think i'll backup the /home partition and reinstall from start----thanks heaps for the advice tho
[11:19] <GSF1200S> yeah, and its not ubuntu because im on arch
[11:19] <Dekko> GSF1200: I am on a Geforce 9600GT card with 2.6.28-14 kernel...
[11:19] <GSF1200S> ecolitan
[11:20] <Spikemcc> i need a decent app for my minimal ubuntu ... got ideas ?
[11:20] <trothigar> Cryptorchild, HypothesisFrog  will do
[11:20] <GSF1200S> you know you can setup a seperate /home right?
[11:20] <Dekko> And the latest Nvidia drivers from Nvidia directly not from ubuntu repository.
[11:20] <gCg> Hello, i have a quick question. I am using UNR right now but i need to install kernel-2.6.30. can anyone point a healty way to install a new kernel
[11:20] <GSF1200S> then you wouldnt need to backup anymore if shit like this happens
[11:20] <ecolitan> GSF1200S alread have /home on a seperate partition
[11:20] <GSF1200S> cool.. should be easy
[11:21] <ecolitan> GSF1200S i just have fear from blowing away by accident :P
[11:21] <GSF1200S> sorry i couldnt help you :(
[11:21] <GSF1200S> haha, yeah
[11:21] <GSF1200S> dekko... lemme dig a little and see what i can find
[11:21] <GSF1200S> this is an X/nvidia gripe
[11:21] <ecolitan> GSF1200S it's all good, i dont have time for more troubleshooting anyway, have to go to schoo
[11:21] <Dekko> ecolitan: Linux has no safety rails like that.... need to stay with Windows or OS X in that case. I run all three on this system :D
[11:21] <GSF1200S> your on ubuntu and im on arch with a different kernel...
[11:22] <Spikemcc> got ideas for my minimal ubuntu ? openbox or LXDE , decent softwares ...
[11:22] <GSF1200S> ecolitan- out of the navy in 7 days and going to school- I know what you mean!
[11:22] <ecolitan> bye all
[11:22] <GSF1200S> bye
[11:22] <Dekko> Bye!
[11:22] <linduxed> if powertop tells me that i should enable USB autosuspend, will that have any implications?
[11:22] <GSF1200S> were both too late
[11:23] <Dekko> ha ha :)
[11:23] <GSF1200S> ok hold on dekko
[11:23] <Dekko> I'm holding on for dear life here :D :D
[11:23] <Dekko> Its not a BIG DEAL with the graphics card, but ANNOYING :-P
[11:23] <Dekko> feels like a definite bug to me.
[11:23] <Spikemcc> lxde or openbox ? or you have another idea for me ?
[11:24] <Kingsy101> hey guys, just a quick question, I have just taken out my HD from my linux pc put it into my windows machine (it detects in the bios fine) but doesnt show up in windows.. is this a windows issue or what? i.e is it possible to read a linux HD in windows ?
[11:25] <GSF1200S> hello?
[11:25] <GSF1200S> i just got kicked or something.. xchat crashed like twice
[11:25] <Dekko> hello :)
[11:25] <Slart> Kingsy101: possible, yes.. but you have to install third party drivers
[11:25] <richardcavell> Anyone here able to run games under wine well?  Can you send me your xorg.conf files?  I think I need to tweak mine
[11:25] <Slart> Kingsy101: there are drivers available for ext2 and perhaps ext3
[11:25] <Kingsy101> Slart - well I am on my windows PC atm with my HD plugged in what should I install ?
[11:26] <Kingsy101> I think my HD is ext3
[11:26] <Spikemcc> Kingsy101 if it's ext2 or 3 there an application for that ...
[11:26] <GammaX> anyone have experience using pppoe? im having trouble.
[11:26] <Slart> Kingsy101: ok, one sec
[11:26] <Spikemcc> ext4 no hope for ya man
[11:26] <Slart> Kingsy101: have a look at this http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:26] <Spikemcc> else ? even worse ...
[11:26] <or4n9e> I found out that changing the root passwd, i.e. setting it in persistent liveusb mode isn't possible
[11:27] <or4n9e> wtf? this is a serious bug, isn't it?
[11:27] <Kingsy101> Slart - thats ext2 isnt it ?
[11:27] <or4n9e> anyidea how to fix that? is it locked or something
[11:27] <Slart> or4n9e: well.. there's this whole thing with root passwords and so on with ubuntu
[11:27] <Spikemcc> richardcavell linux gaming is a hope I left a long time ago ...
[11:27] <Slart> !root | or4n9e
[11:27] <or4n9e> /etc/shadow gets updated but the system ignores it
[11:27] <bullgard4> GammaX: Please put a more specific question in this channel.
[11:27] <Slart> Kingsy101: ext3 is compatible with ext2.. you should be able to read the info from it at least
[11:28] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: I've given up many times but I keep coming back to it
[11:28] <or4n9e> Slart, I know this. anyway it needs to be possible to set it if desired
[11:28] <kraut> moin
[11:28] <Kingsy101> Slart - thanks
[11:28] <Slart> or4n9e: I'm not sure there "needs" to be a way to set it, no
[11:28] <or4n9e> Slart, ?
[11:28] <Spikemcc> richardcavell for opengl games it's real decent, otherwise old directx games also but it seem sluggish for me ...
[11:28] <or4n9e> ups sorry
[11:29] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: At least wine is working on 3D support
[11:29] <GammaX> Anyone install pppoe, I installed it and when configuring it says Oh, dear, I don't see the file '/etc/ppp/pppoe.conf' anywhere.  Please
[11:29] <GammaX> re-install the PPPoE client.
[11:29] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: I just got my tax return so I might as well upgrade my internal hard disk, put Windows on it, and be proud of it
[11:29] <Slart> or4n9e: but I don't think it's a designed feature of a persistent usb install..
[11:29] <ibrar> While installing my usb modem I am getting error
[11:29] <ibrar> FATAL: Module usbserial not found.
[11:29] <or4n9e> Slart, come on. that's urgently needed imho. I mean ubuntu can go the road to disable the root account but it NEEDS to be possible to activate it, even in liveusb
[11:30] <or4n9e> no issues with a hdd install
[11:30] <richardcavell> or4n9e: that's silly
[11:30] <Slart> or4n9e: I don't see a reason for it
[11:30] <richardcavell> or4n9e: why do you need to log in as root, ever?
[11:30] <or4n9e> richardcavell, what's silly?
[11:30] <Spikemcc> richardcavell 3d games work on wine ... frets on fire worked better than the linux version a while ago ...
[11:30] <ibrar> I am using 9.04 64bit
[11:30] <nathan7> 0=
[11:30] <or4n9e> I won't login as root but I'd like to enable it. what's wrong with it
[11:30]  * nathan7 is using 9.10 =)
[11:31] <nathan7> or4n9e: root is a fixed name
[11:31] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: The guys on #winehq think it might be my driver support. The Intel GMA950 chipset support under Ubuntu is woeful.
[11:31] <or4n9e> imho you just try to hide a serious bug. nothing else. just my 2c
[11:31] <nathan7> or4n9e: the first attack point for any cracker
[11:31] <nathan7> or4n9e: Ahem, administrator account on windoze
[11:31] <Slart> or4n9e: noone is saying it's wrong.. but you don't *need* it
[11:31] <Kingsy101> Slart - that doesnt seem to work, in My computer it now has the local disk but when you try to view whats on it it asks if you wanna format it
[11:31] <nathan7> or4n9e: Default: passwordless, allows remote logins on some setups (=0)
[11:31] <or4n9e> nathan7, read what I write please. I WON'T login as root
[11:31] <or4n9e> but I'd like to enable it
[11:31] <Slart> or4n9e: and as I said.. I doubt it's designed like that just for usb persistent installs.. it might be a bug, it might be a configuration issue.. I have no idea
[11:32] <nathan7> or4n9e: Yes, but it's also so OTHERS won't do it
[11:32] <Spikemcc> richardcavell on linux try to have a nvidia graphic card ...
[11:32] <nathan7> or4n9e: Crackers
[11:32] <or4n9e> to be able to use sudo su - WITH password
[11:32] <Boohbah> or4n9e: see my msg
[11:32] <nathan7> Su as root is passwordless
[11:32] <wWales> how do i disable the prompt on close window with an unread message in pidgin?
[11:32] <Spikemcc> logitech webcam work well also
[11:32] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: yeah but I have a laptop so can't upgrade it.  The GMA950 chipset is rather common though.
[11:32] <nathan7> Boohbah: I misread your nick for boobie xD
[11:32] <nathan7> richardcavell: D=
[11:32] <Slart> Kingsy101: hmm.. did you reboot?
[11:33] <Kingsy101> nope.. 1 sec I will try that
[11:33] <nathan7> At some point in the future, I'm going to build my own laptop
[11:33] <pady> I want to install hunspell from source but it is giving error on make install
[11:33] <pady> the error is : make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[11:33] <pady> Please guide me what to do
[11:33] <Slart> pady: have you read the instructions in INSTALL or README?
[11:34] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: I might even buy a cheap-ass desktop for games
[11:34] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: all my favourite games are ten years old... Half-Life 1, Counter-Strike, Deus Ex
[11:34] <pady> yes
[11:34] <richardcavell> A $50 graphics card will do me
[11:34] <Spikemcc> yeah but Intel and Ati are mostly threaths to the linux desktop use ... I have one of theses Ati and if I could change it, I would make a youtube video about how to destroy an ati video card !!!
[11:34] <cube|hospital> hey guys
[11:34] <cube|hospital> there is a lot of crap starting up when i boot
[11:34] <Slart> pady: ./configure, make, sudo make install is the normal way ie the way most source code is compiled.. but it's far from the only way.. there are other systems, ways and so on.. you need to read the incuded instructions when you compile source code
[11:34] <cube|hospital> like i tried out the sendmail package onece
[11:35] <or4n9e> so, sorry for being harsh but I dislike to be treated like a newbie, does anyone have a serious recommendation how to fix an obvious bug
[11:35] <Digit0> hello
[11:35] <or4n9e> a bug that's btw known since 2005 - look in launchpad
[11:35] <Spikemcc> old p3 or p4, 1 Go ram, nvidia 128 Mo graph card ... maybe &
[11:35] <cube|hospital> i installed sendmail, and not MTA (mail transfer agent) is starting up like 10 seconds every time i boot. even thoguh i removed package sendmail. any ideasß
[11:35] <richardcavell> or4n9e: are you trolling?
[11:35] <Digit0> anyone has been able to activate the flash plugin in chrome ??
[11:35] <or4n9e> richardcavell, nope, I'm serious
[11:35] <trothigar> Digit0, are you on 32 bit?
[11:36] <Digit0> yes
[11:36] <Slart> or4n9e: I just think people reacted to the phrase "linux needs to have a root password".. I have no idea why it doesn't work on your usb install
[11:36] <trothigar> Digit0, and with chromium not chrome?
[11:36] <Boohbah> or4n9e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Special%20notes%20on%20sudo%20and%20shells
[11:36] <Digit0> trothigar, nope, chrome
[11:36] <trothigar> Digit0, i don't believe its supported at this time
[11:36] <richardcavell> any word on Google Chrome, by the way, for Linux?  And whether it's better than Firefox?
[11:36] <Spikemcc> or4n9e there is bugs in windows for eternity, don't mess with littles bugs on linux ...
[11:36] <Digit0> richardcavell, sure it's faster
[11:37] <Boohbah> or4n9e: can you link that bug again please?
[11:37] <trothigar> Digit0, you can get flash in chromium however
[11:37] <richardcavell> Digit0: Firefox is not exactly slow. If you're surfing around everyday websites, what difference does render speed make?
[11:37] <Spikemcc> I was installing windows 98 without password, without cracks and stuff like that
[11:37] <MidnightDevil> heya :) after a kernel update, if it works nice, can i remove the previous ones through synaptic ?
[11:37] <Digit0> trothigar, well, I just received an update of chrome and it says: Plugins (e.g. Flash) are partway implemented and will cause frequent crashes. Use --enable-plugins to turn them on if you're ok with that; the browser is otherwise quite stable
[11:37] <richardcavell> Digit0: Netscape on my Pentium 2 - 333 MHz was fast enough for me
[11:37] <csaba_> hello
[11:37] <or4n9e> Boohbah, sure. wait a sec. it's somewhat related with xscreensaver but imho the very same reason
[11:37] <csaba_> can someone help me a bit with samba?
[11:38] <cube|hospital> i installed sendmail, and not MTA (mail transfer agent) is starting up like 10 seconds every time i boot. even thoguh i removed package sendmail. any ideas?
[11:38] <richardcavell> MidnightDevil: Yes you can
[11:38] <Spikemcc> Digit0 try flock instead of firefox, it's way different you should like
[11:38] <Digit0> richardcavell, use whatever you prefer :). For the laptop I use firefox but in the netbook chrome is much more responsive
[11:38] <cube|hospital> i installed sendmail, and now MTA (mail transfer agent) is starting up like 10 seconds every time i boot. even thoguh i removed package sendmail. any ideas?
[11:38] <om26er> !karmic
[11:39] <Boohbah> cube|hospital: sudo update-rc.d -f sendmail remove
[11:39] <MidnightDevil> tks richardcavell :)
[11:39] <richardcavell> Digit0: I like Firefox because it's cross platform. I use Windows, OS X and Ubuntu
[11:39] <[nrx]> Karmic WILL break? What the hell does that mean?
[11:39] <richardcavell> MidnightDevil: be prepared to reinstall if something breaks
[11:39] <Digit0> richardcavell, chrome will be cross platform soon
[11:39] <Slart> [nrx]: there will be bugs and changes that will break things
[11:39] <jr200747|away> hello every1
[11:39] <cube|hospital> Boohbah: oh. and thats the rc.d part for?
[11:39] <Boohbah> [nrx]: it's alpha software... it will break
[11:39] <[nrx]> ta
[11:39] <Digit0> I prefer firefox as well, but for netbooks chrome is lighter
[11:39] <cube|hospital> Digit0: but it wont be open source, just like firefox is
[11:39] <richardcavell> Digit0: if Google are serious about creating a rival OS, then Chrome will be the thin end of that wedge
[11:40] <or4n9e> Boohbah, you dont get the question. HOW to become root is obvious. I'm using linux for 10 years. the problem is... it's not possible to set its passwd
[11:40] <Spikemcc> Digit0 and richardcavell time to try flock for both of you, it does all what you said and it's lighter than firefox
[11:40] <Boohbah> cube|hospital: rc.d is the directory where your system startup scripts exist, update-rc.d is the tool for modifying their runlevels
[11:40] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: Chrome also reckon that they're focussing on stability and security
[11:40] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: that's worth a lot
[11:40] <richardcavell> Spikemcc: Firefox has a ton of bugs
[11:40] <Digit0> cube|hospital, afaik chrome is open source minus the "google" trademarks and logo
[11:41] <cube|hospital> Boohbah: aah. ok. thanks. and, is there any way to manually take a look at start up things? i know about the perferences -> session, but not all of them appear to be there
[11:41] <Digit0> that's why you can do something totally FOSS easily (chromium)
[11:42] <cube|hospital> Digit0: it also doesnt have as many plugins, isnt that popular, is pretty new, and its google to it has as much privacy as much linux belongs to bill gates
[11:42] <jr200747> how do u install TCL 8.4 on ubuntu??
[11:42] <DPic> ...how the hell is Jokosher supposed to be pronounced!
[11:42] <Boohbah> or4n9e: 'sudo passwd root' not work for you?
[11:42] <Slart> DPic: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <Boohbah> DPic: joe-ko-sure
[11:43] <MidnightDevil> how can i with irssi open another "server" tab ?
[11:43] <Slart> jr200747: there isn't a package for it?
[11:43] <[nrx]> Joe-Ko-Cher
[11:43] <[nrx]> ;)
[11:43] <DPic> Boohbah, thanks, and i love your IRC handle
[11:43] <or4n9e> Boohbah, nope
[11:43] <or4n9e> it outputs "changed succesfully"
[11:43] <or4n9e> /etc/shadow gets changed
[11:43] <or4n9e> BUT it does not work
[11:43] <or4n9e> I stated this ten times now :D
[11:44] <jr200747> how do u install TCL 8.4 on ubuntu??
[11:44] <doktoreas> hello folks..is there a way for checking the option used to start a running process?
[11:44] <richardcavell> or4n9e: what do you mean it does not work?
[11:44] <om26er> but the download server is very slow i am getting 30kb/s
[11:44] <Slart> doktoreas: ps might be able to tell you the command line
[11:44] <xlq> There is a libvorbisfile3 but no libvorbisfile3-dev package!
[11:44] <richardcavell> or4n9e: have you re logged in?
[11:44] <Slart> doktoreas: or htop/top
[11:45] <richardcavell> om26er: I wish I could get 30 kilobytes/second
[11:45] <jr200747> how do u install TCL 8.4 on ubuntu??
[11:45] <Slart> !repeat | jr200747
[11:45] <jr200747> can anyone help plz
[11:45] <jr200747> ok sry and thnx ubottu
[11:45] <bazhang> jr200747, sudo apt-get install tcl
[11:45] <om26er> richardcavell: wha that mean
[11:45] <pady> Slart, I had read and follow that instruction, still it is giving the same error
[11:46] <richardcavell> om26er: count yourself lucky
[11:46] <xlq> oh, it's libvorbis-dev
[11:46] <xlq> never mind me :)
[11:46] <or4n9e> richardcavell, the system ignores the change
[11:46] <Boohbah> or4n9e: i'm curious about your issue.. what version of ubuntu? this is a liveusb? i want to try to reproduce it
[11:46] <richardcavell> or4n9e: have you rebooted or not?
[11:46] <Slart> pady: can you pastebin what happens when you run ./configure  make    sudo make install? including the commands
[11:46] <or4n9e> logout in console mode doesn't give a login prompt neither do a reboot
[11:47] <or4n9e> Boohbah, liveusb intrepid
[11:47] <Kingsy101> Slart - hmm a re-boot didnt help
[11:47] <Kingsy101> any other ideas ?
[11:47] <om26er> richardcavell: i was in the karmic channel and by mistake typed it here. by the way i downloaded jaunty at a much faster rate
[11:47] <or4n9e> same for jaunty... found it reported at ubuntusers.de
[11:47] <kandjar> hi there, how can I force a cluster check at boot time with ubuntu 9.04?
[11:47] <Kingsy101> Slart - it still just asks if I wanna format
[11:47] <or4n9e> richardcavell, as I said I also rebooted
[11:48] <cube|hospital> Digit0: it also doesnt have as many plugins, isnt that popular, is pretty new, and its google to it has as much privacy as much linux belongs to bill gates
[11:48] <cube|hospital> Digit0: it also doesnt have as many plugins, isnt that popular, is pretty new, and its google to it has as much privacy as much linux belongs to bill gates
[11:48] <Slart> Kingsy101: hmm... not really.. you can try this utility instead.. it's not as integrated as the other one.. but it might work better http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs-install
[11:48] <cube|hospital> oops
[11:48] <pady> ok
[11:48] <Slart> !pastebin | pady
[11:48] <Digit0> yes yes, but you can use chromium
[11:48] <Slart> Kingsy101: sudo touch /forcefsk  should do it
[11:49] <kandjar> touch /forcefsk just do a std checks, it doens't analyze the clusters...
[11:49] <kandjar> unless I'm missing something
[11:49] <Kingsy101> Slart - that works great.. thanks :)))))
[11:49] <Slart> cube|hospital, Digit0: I think #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better channel for firefox vs chromium discussion
[11:49] <Kingsy101> Slart - I appriaciate that
[11:49] <Boohbah> or4n9e: http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img  ?
[11:49] <richardcavell> or4n9e: let Boobah try to reproduce your symptoms
[11:50] <Slart> kandjar: ahh.. that might be true.. not sure how to add switches to that... boot from a live cd?
[11:50] <or4n9e> richardcavell, you need this to believe I'm not a troll?
[11:51] <Boohbah> or4n9e: is that the right image? i'm downloading it now
[11:51] <or4n9e> serious I don't wanna be disrespectful but some folks do not take me serious and that's not ok imho
[11:51] <richardcavell> or4n9e: no
[11:51] <joaopinto> kandjar, if you mean a surface scan, you want to use badblocks
[11:51] <Kingsy101> Slart - its possible with that program tho to copy files from the linux HD to the windows one right ?
[11:51] <richardcavell> or4n9e: I'm just saying we should reproduce what you're talking about to understand what's going on
[11:51] <mumbuman> hey all
[11:51] <Slart> Kingsy101: yes
[11:52] <kandjar> joaopinto: yeah i meant surface scan
[11:52] <or4n9e> I know what I'm talking about, confront you guys with a verified and serious issue and all you do is asking if I'm trolling. next will be a kick maybe for at least a valid question
[11:52] <Boohbah> or4n9e: i am taking you seriously, i know it's possible to do what you're trying to do because i have done it
[11:52] <or4n9e> richardcavell, ok sorry
[11:52] <or4n9e> IC your point
[11:52] <joaopinto> kandjar, man badblocks
[11:52] <Kingsy101> Slart - heh how ? I cant get it to work
[11:52] <Boohbah> or4n9e: is http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img the image you're using?
[11:52] <or4n9e> Boohbah, it's definitely possible in a hdd install but in liveusb it does not work
[11:52] <kandjar> joaopinto: thx ill check that now
[11:53] <Slart> Kingsy101: it doesn't show you a explorer like window where you can see the files on your linux drive?
[11:53] <Boohbah> or4n9e: which is why i want to confirm exactly which liveusb image you're using
[11:53] <Kingsy101> oh oh 1 sec :)
[11:53] <or4n9e> Boohbah, nope. I created my own liveusb by rsyncing the livecd to usb, install grub and create a seperate casper-rw ext2 for persistent storage
[11:54] <doktoreas> Slart: can't find a way with ps :(
[11:54] <or4n9e> Boohbah, I use the liveCD
[11:54] <[nrx]> or4n9e, interesting. I've been trying to do the same thing today and I just get nowhere.
[11:54] <kandjar> I guess a badblock -sv /sda1 should do it :)
[11:54] <Slart> doktoreas: ok, hang on.. let me check
[11:54] <Boohbah> or4n9e: ok, which livecd is it? i'm looking at http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/
[11:54] <or4n9e> [nrx], the label of the persistence overlay is important
[11:54] <cocioi> hi all
[11:54] <or4n9e> it needs to be casper-rw
[11:54] <[nrx]> or4n9e, I don't even get that far - I can't get it to boot :)
[11:54] <doktoreas> Slart: thx mate
[11:55] <cocioi> who can help me?
[11:55] <bazhang> cocioi, need a question
[11:55] <or4n9e> Boohbah, standard intrepid x86
[11:55] <[nrx]> !ask
[11:55] <Boohbah> or4n9e: if it's a problem with the ubuntu image it will also be present in the livecd
[11:55] <cocioi> i can't connect my PC to wireless network
[11:55] <pady> Slart, Config will giving error here is the config.log file I had pasted : http://paste.ubuntu.com/226900/
[11:55] <doktoreas> Slart: It's ok thx
[11:55] <bazhang> cocioi, what version of ubuntu, what wireless card, what have you tried
[11:55] <doktoreas> ps -f -p PID
[11:55] <cocioi> ubuntu 8.10
[11:56] <Boohbah> or4n9e: ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[11:56] <cocioi> i used backtrack 4
[11:56] <or4n9e> Boohbah, aligned. in the end it's not important what image you use. everything is intrepid and I myself assume it's a bug (or maybe even a "feature") of casper
[11:56] <or4n9e> Boohbah, yes
[11:56] <bazhang> cocioi, #remote-exploit for that
[11:56] <cocioi> yes
[11:56] <Yanick_> hi, I have found the problem with the tomcat6 installation. The file /usr/share/tomcat6/bin/bootstrap.jar is not created by the package
[11:56] <Slart> doktoreas: ah.. good
[11:56] <bazhang> cocioi, BT is not supported here
[11:56] <Slart> pady: ok, I'll have a look
[11:56] <or4n9e> Boohbah, modded slightly to be able to use grub instead of syslinux
[11:57] <cocioi> yes.
[11:57] <nannes> hi all!
[11:57] <bazhang> cocioi, /join #remote-exploit
[11:57] <cocioi> ok
[11:57] <cocioi> thanks bazhang
[11:57] <Slart> pady: run this "sudo apt-get install build-essential", then try again
[11:57] <Yanick_> actually, bootstrap.jar is never created whatsoever, and does not exist anywhere on the file system
[11:57] <jr200747> when i installed tcl its not registering to the system
[11:57] <jado> hi, sometimes i can't browse anymore even though i'm still connected; it seems that the DNS is not functionnal since i can't ping www.google.com; does someone have an idea?
[11:57] <bazhang> jr200747, installed how
[11:57] <pady> Slart, ok
[11:57] <Slart> pady: in some cases   ./configure actually creates the make files so if configure fails there might not be a make install rule
[11:58] <Slart> "in some cases" might also be "in all cases"
[11:58] <or4n9e> I think I'll now download casper source and ivestigate this
[11:58] <jr200747> bazhang pm plz
[11:58] <or4n9e> try to rebuild the iso and see where I get
[11:58] <bazhang> jr200747, let's keep it here, more eyes to solve the problem
[11:58] <jr200747> o ok
[11:58] <kandjar> thx joaopinto, it seems to be working :-)
[11:58] <jr200747> i did wut u told me to do m8
[11:58] <pady> Slart, Thanks
[11:59] <Slart> pady: it works now?
[11:59] <Spikemcc> hi all, I need all decent guides and tutorials for hardy to make my ubuntu minimal cd setup script ... got ideas ???
[11:59] <pady> yes
[11:59] <or4n9e> Boohbah, thanks for taking the time to find out
[11:59] <kandjar> Slart: thanks too :)
[11:59] <cope> ciao ragazzi voglio istallare firefox da terminale..com è il comando
[11:59] <Yanick_> line 97 of /etc/init.d/tomcat6 is "if [ ! -f "$CATALINA_HOME/bin/bootstrap.jar" ]; then" where $CATALINA refers to /usr/share/tomcat6 but the file does not exist. How can I create this file?
[11:59] <pady> Slart, but make giving error
[11:59] <Slart> kandjar: you're welcome
[11:59] <bazhang> cope, #ubuntu-it for Italian
[11:59] <Slart> pady: ok.. pastebin again
[11:59] <pady> I 'll pastebin that output
[12:00] <pady> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/226915/
[12:01] <xbmc666> i've got an antec fusion with lcdproc installed, dunno how to configure it properly, i see some chars in the lcd panel, but only jibberish characters, like ñẑõ and underscores etc
[12:01] <Yanick_> can someone help?
 jr200747, sudo apt-get install tcl<<<< thats wut i did bazhang
[12:02] <bazhang> jr200747, okay, and what are you trying to achieve? could you give a hint or some clarification please
[12:02] <Slart> pady: I have no idea why it does that..
[12:02] <xlq> Yanick_: did you remove the 'tomcat' package?
[12:03] <jr200747> eggdrop bot for irc
[12:03] <xlq> Yanick_: it sounds like you removed, but didn't purge, tomcat6
[12:03] <Yanick_> xlq, removed, reinstalled, purged, cleaned.... installed again... several times
[12:03] <bazhang> Yanick_, all 6 tomcat 6 packages from repos?
[12:03] <bazhang> jr200747, similar to ubottu?
[12:04] <Yanick_> bazhang, I'm doing sudo apt-get install tomcat6
[12:04] <jr200747> dont kno m8
[12:04] <jr200747> never heard of it
[12:04] <Yanick_> bazhang, it should include all required packages.... no?
[12:04] <bazhang> Yanick_, there should be 6 packages you install
[12:04] <bazhang> !botclone | jr200747
[12:04] <xlq> Where's ubottu gone?
[12:04] <bazhang> whoops
[12:05] <bazhang> xlq, being restarted, I forgot
[12:05] <Yanick_> bazhang, which are...?
[12:05] <Yanick_> bazhang, because apt-get only mentioned three
[12:05] <xlq> bazhang: O_o it's taking a while
[12:05] <bazhang> tomcat6 tomcat6-admin tomcat6-common tomcat6-user tomcat6-docs tomcat6-examples Yanick_
[12:06] <aaronvarghese> helo
[12:06] <bazhang> hi
[12:06] <aaronvarghese> can some1 help me to remote desktop
[12:06] <xlq> aaronvarghese: to Windows? From Windows? X11 port forwarding? VNC?
[12:07] <aaronvarghese> from windows
[12:07] <aaronvarghese> xlq
[12:07] <aaronvarghese> helo
[12:07] <jr200747>  !botclone | jr200747<<<<< is that wut i type m8
[12:07] <jr200747>  !botclone
[12:07] <xlq> jr200747: ubottu isn't here right now
[12:08] <bazhang> jr200747, wait for a moment til the bot returns
[12:08] <aaronvarghese> i need help to do rempte desktop from a windows machien to this one (ubuntu)
[12:08] <jr200747> o ok m8
[12:08] <Yanick_> bazhang, well... I do not know which package had bootstrap.jar, but installing all of them did the trick. Thanks! BTW : simply installing tomcat6 should install all the required files... there's clearly a dependency issue here
[12:08] <aaronvarghese> xlq
[12:08] <bazhang> Yanick_, seems so, glad you got it
[12:08] <aaronvarghese> ru redy to answer my question
[12:08] <xlq> aaronvarghese: is this on a local network? You can use tightvnc.
[12:08] <xlq> aaronvarghese: I find tightvnc to be very slow over the Internet though.
[12:08] <bazhang> aaronvarghese, please use real English
[12:09] <Slart> aaronvarghese: and just ask your question, there is no queue system.
[12:10] <pady> While installing hunspell the make command giving the error :http://paste.ubuntu.com/226945/
[12:10] <bouma> is there a way to get the latest ver of e2fsprogs under 8.10, which might improve my recovery of a ext4 related freakout
[12:10] <pady> CAn anybody help me ?
[12:10] <bazhang> pady, any reason not to install hunspell from repos?
[12:10] <pady> yeah
[12:11] <pady> bazhang, I have to add my own dictionary into that and want ot buid that
[12:12] <jr200747> o ok m8
[12:12] <jr200747>  !botclone
[12:12] <laclasse> aaronvarghese, install NX: http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[12:13] <bazhang> jr200747, you need to be patient, she's has not returned yet :)
[12:13] <aeiou> ive set 'permitrootlogin no' and /etc/init.d/ssh restart  when i try to ssh as root to the server it shouldnt give me a password promt right?
[12:16] <Cyber_Akuma> *checks xchat preferences* note to self: find a better IRC client later
[12:17] <Cyber_Akuma> anyway, I have several questions with ubuntu, mostly about harddrive partitions, anybody there?
[12:17] <oskar-> aeiou:  afaik, it gives always a password prompt to not disclose information about existing accounts
[12:17] <magnetron> Cyber_Akuma: hundred's of people are here, just simply ask your questions straight out
[12:17] <bazhang> Cyber_Akuma, ask and if someone knows they will answer
[12:18] <Cyber_Akuma> Ok, well, first of all, I just did some massive repartioning, and I was wondering if there was any way I can renumber the sda1, sda2, etc (not sure what they are called)
[12:18] <Cyber_Akuma> since they are all out of order and skipping numbers now, its confusing
[12:18] <uknow> can some one help me with display problems
[12:18] <kripz> Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0
[12:18] <bazhang> http://ubottu.com/clone.html jr200747
[12:19] <NET||abuse> hey guys, when running the pulseaudio server on my laptop, i get cpulimit issues, the CAP_SYS_NICE limited capabilities seems to be an issue, i can't maintain a link between my desktop pc and the laptop at the moment.
[12:19] <oskar-> Cyber_Akuma:  fdisk, x for expert mode, f for corretion of partition order. beware, you have to correct every occurence of sdaX notation
[12:19] <nathan7> 0=
[12:19] <NET||abuse> here's the pulseaudio output from running on the command line....  http://pastebin.com/da00418a
[12:19] <[nrx]> Cyber_Akuma: why would you want to?
[12:20] <Cyber_Akuma> nrx: to make things less confusing
[12:20] <[nrx]> Cyber_Akuma; uhm ok.
[12:20] <Cyber_Akuma> I have numbers that are skipped and numbers that are out of order
[12:20] <Cyber_Akuma> sda8 appears before sda7 for example
[12:20] <[nrx]> Cyber_Akuma, where?
[12:20] <Cyber_Akuma> in gparted
[12:21] <[nrx]> that's just gparted, that doesn't affect operation in anyway.
[12:21] <uknow> is it possible to change the resilution or the log on screen
[12:21] <psyshush> hello everybody. I wish to delete my swap partition as I don't need it. can anyone please advise? thanks
[12:21] <Cyber_Akuma> I used to have 3 primary and 4 logical, now I have 1 primary and 4 logical
[12:22] <Cyber_Akuma> Anyway, so when I use fdisk to renumber them, does ubuntu by default start with sda0 or sda1?
[12:23] <sash_> Cy-4-:
[12:23] <sash_> Cyber_Akuma:  there is no sda0
[12:23] <Cyber_Akuma> thanks
[12:23] <pady> bazhang, can you help me ?
[12:23] <mzuverink> is their a way to take my 32bit installation and convert it to 64, or do I just need to reinstall?
[12:24] <Wildcard77> mzuverink: reinstall
[12:24] <bazhang> pady, you are trying to compile your own hunspell with custom definitions?
[12:24] <NET||abuse> mzuverink, you could do it, but you'd end up on the funny farm i would say,,,
[12:24] <mzuverink> OK peeps, thanks for that
[12:24] <Wildcard77> yw
[12:24] <pady> bazhang,  Currently I am facing problem withoud any modification in the code
[12:25] <oskar-> psyshush:  use swapoff to make the swap space unused, then you can use a partitioning tool to delete the partition
[12:25] <uknow> i dont think my video chip is installed right its a sis mirage 3  771/671 when i boot up my loog on screen is un supported
[12:25] <Cyber_Akuma> hmmm, fdisk x f didn't seem to do anything
[12:25] <jumbers> I'm convinced that there's something wrong with my wireless drivers or settings, or something. When I have this computer on wireless, it seems to take FOREVER to resolve any DNS. Any other computer on the network goes quick and also if I plug this computer directly into a router, it will also be fast. Is there something I can do to fix this?
[12:25] <uknow> i can type in user pass and name  then enter and boot up the desktop tho
[12:25] <psyshush> oskar: thanks. do I need to change any config files are well?
[12:26] <qe2eqe> When does a new Xorg.0.log get created?
[12:26] <mzuverink> another issue, my ipod touch, it registers when connected, but none of the apps allow communication with it or even browsing the contents of the itouch, any suggestions besides stop buying proprietary hardware devices?
[12:26] <Leoneof> hiiii, i installed USB Wireless  ^_^
[12:26] <Cyber_Akuma> it just said done, didnt ask me to renumber anything
[12:26] <oskar-> psyshush:  if you swap partition is referred in /etc/fstab, the entry should be deleted there
[12:26] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support by following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, but while display is otherwise ok, there's no 3d support. My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why "NVidia", since I have a Radeon card - my previous card was NVidia. Could this point to the source of my problem? Any idea on how to pr
[12:27] <psyshush> oskar: thanks
[12:27] <theoraforever> I'm having some trouble with one of my Ubuntu desktops. A minute or so after boot,all forms of input stop working, and caps/num/scroll lock lights on the keyboard start flashing. Any ideas?
[12:27] <oskar-> psyshush:  be very careful when manipulation the partition table... make a backup before, as mistakes can happen easily
[12:28] <qe2eqe> theoraforever, is it a usb keyboard? =/
[12:28] <cute_bettong> i was wondering if anyone used empathy messenger, and could help me with some things
[12:28] <snowdonx> hi
[12:28] <snowdonx> hello?
[12:28] <cute_bettong> hi
[12:28] <qe2eqe> theoraforever, also, maybe try a knoppix CD to see if it's an ubuntu bug, or a hardware issue
[12:29] <mzuverink> snowdonx, hello
[12:29] <jumbers> !hi | snowdonx
[12:29] <theoraforever> No, but the mouse is. And 24 hours ago, it worked.
[12:29] <snowdonx> i got a question
[12:29] <jumbers> Just ask
[12:29] <snowdonx> wireless support what is it like for ubuntu
[12:29] <[nrx]> !ask
[12:29] <owltaser> mzuverick, you could try Amarok for your ipod, works for mine
[12:29] <snowdonx> !ask wireless support
[12:29] <magnetron> snowdonx: it's good.
[12:29] <theoraforever> And had for maybe a month.
[12:29] <snowdonx> is there a driver list anywhere?
[12:29] <snowdonx> !ask driverlist
[12:29] <Alvinware> Yo, Ubuntu have upgraded it version of Firefox. :-)
[12:30] <lstarnes> snowdonx: ! ask does nothing
[12:30] <snowdonx> i just figured that out
[12:30] <snowdonx> :)
[12:30] <magnetron> snowdonx: all supported drivers are included from start, you don't need to install drivers
[12:30] <mzuverink> snowdonx, I have 9 laptops with various hardware and i have never had an issue with wireless since Ubuntu's 2nd release
[12:30] <lstarnes> !wifi | snowdonx
[12:30] <magnetron> !hardware | snowdonx
[12:30] <snowdonx> so its just going to pick up my wireless laptop
[12:30] <jumbers> Pretty sure he's trying to find out which ones are supported
[12:30] <qe2eqe> snowdonx, you can poll the bot using /msg ubottu <msg>
[12:30] <ameed> Hello all , i would like to know and ask if am using Ubuntu on my laptop is there a way to create an ISO image off my Ubuntu OS and copy it to a CD instead of downloading a new ISO image from the Internet?
[12:30] <Wildcard77> snowdonx, if you need drivers that aren't started with Ubuntu check out ndiskwrapper
[12:31] <tavi_> hy
[12:31] <Slart> ameed: have a look at remastersys.. it might do what you want
[12:31] <mzuverink> snowdonx, what wireless hardware are you concerned about, make/manufacturer
[12:31] <snowdonx> wildcard what does that do
[12:31] <[nrx]> Wildcard77, snowdonx: he means 'ndiswrapper' lol
[12:31] <tavi_> a html editor know someone?
[12:31] <qe2eqe> Wildcard77, I think you mean ndiswrapper?
[12:31] <snowdonx> mzuverink i think it will be supported
[12:31] <Wildcard77> qe2eqe, yes sorry
[12:31]  * qe2eqe high-fives [nrx]
[12:31] <[nrx]> ;D
[12:31] <mzuverink> snowdonx, just try the live cd and if it works out of the box it will be obvious
[12:31] <ameed> Slart: is it a program that runs on Ubuntu Already or should i Google it
[12:32] <snowdonx> Its an intel pro a/b/g 802.3 wireless
[12:32] <Wildcard77> snowdonx, ndiswrapper assists with the install of drivers that aren't found by Ubuntu it's in apt.
[12:32] <theoraforever> I have run a livecd, and do not get this problem. But maybe two or three months ago, I had to reinstall Ubuntu because of this.
[12:32] <uknow_> is there a driver scanner/udater for linux
[12:32] <theoraforever> Now,it's back.
[12:32] <Slart> ameed: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html  it might be available in the repos.. I'm not sure
[12:32] <magnetron> tavi_: bluefish screem kompozer quanta
[12:32] <bazhang> ameed, also uck
[12:32] <[nrx]> snowdonx, do as mzuverink has said - get the Live CD and boot with that. If Wireles works, you'll have no problems.
[12:32] <jumbers> Is there any way I can fix my DNS issues?
[12:32] <magnetron> uknow_: it's included from start, it's called "hardware drivers". simple!
[12:33] <[nrx]> jumbers, what's wrong?
[12:33] <snowdonx> hmm
[12:33] <snowdonx> might just do that
[12:33] <bazhang> !remaster | ameed
[12:33] <uknow_> yeah iknow that
[12:33] <jumbers> [nrx]: I said it before, maybe you missed it
[12:33] <snowdonx> question do you have a doc on how i can test the wireless?
[12:33] <jumbers> I'm convinced that there's something wrong with my wireless drivers or settings, or something. When I have this computer on wireless, it seems to take FOREVER to resolve any DNS. Any other computer on the network goes quick and also if I plug this computer directly into a router, it will also be fast. Is there something I can do to fix this?
[12:33] <qe2eqe> uknow, theres a program called jockey that helps, but it depends on the hardware.
[12:33] <snowdonx> or would it be obvious enough that i just figure out via intuition?
[12:33] <sybariten> my apt or my sources.list isnt really feeling too well. here's a part of my error message, when trying to install or update: http://pastebin.ca/1504257
[12:33] <[nrx]> jumbers, check /etc/resolv.conf
[12:33] <sybariten> any suggestions what i do first?
[12:33] <snowdonx> bearing in mind that i have very little linux experience
[12:33] <jumbers> [nrx]: It didn't get like this until I did an upgrade. It might have been the jump to Intrepid
[12:33] <sybariten> how can i for instance avoid using swedish sources?
[12:34] <bazhang> snowdonx, intel? 2200? 3945? which one
[12:34] <lstarnes> snowdonx: the usual way to test it is by attempting to use it
[12:34] <[nrx]> lstarnes, lol
[12:34] <snowdonx> not sure but its an acer 4234 WLMi Travelmate laptop
[12:34] <cute_bettong> i was wondering if anyone in here used empathy messenger
[12:34] <cute_bettong> if so could the im me so i can ask a few questions?
[12:34] <snowdonx> I purchased it over 2 years ago
[12:34] <bazhang> snowdonx, is ubuntu installed on there and running now?
[12:34] <uknow_> thanks
[12:34] <snowdonx> nope
[12:34] <snowdonx> just looking into it for preparation
[12:34] <magnetron> cute_bettong: just ask the questions straight ahead, if anyone knows they'll answer
[12:34] <bazhang> snowdonx, nope to both?
[12:35] <jumbers> [nrx]: I have nameserver 172.16.145.103 which seems to resolve to blackhole1.iana.org
[12:35] <snowdonx> i watched the net compiz vid and that was 1 of my reasons for choosing
[12:35] <snowdonx> nope to the last question
[12:35] <ameed> Slart: can this also be done on CentOS ? i have a server with VICIDIAL Telemarketing Software and my internet is slow to download the ISO image again so can i use this command to create an ISO of it ? will it still include the software running on the system ? files and folders as well ?
[12:35] <jumbers> [nrx]: And then my router
[12:35] <snowdonx> to the first question see my info about the laptop
[12:35] <sybariten> or, if anyone has suggestions on quite specific google keywords for finding help on these apt errors (failed to fetch....)   when the sources.list is perhaps old or somehintg
[12:35] <bazhang> snowdonx, get the live cd and test it out, also a lspci in terminal will tell you the model number
[12:35] <[nrx]> jumbers, check what you have when you're plugged in via eth and cross-ref that with your wireless conf.
[12:35] <[nrx]> jumbers, can always set it manually using gnomes connection manager, too
[12:35] <[nrx]> brb!
[12:35] <Slart> ameed: I have no idea how it does its thing.. have a look at the site, there might be more info there
[12:36] <bazhang> snowdonx, intel are generally quite good as far as wireless support
[12:36] <ameed> Slart: Thanks alot for your time and help , appreciate it.
[12:36] <Slart> ameed: you're welcome
[12:36] <Cyber_Akuma> That seems to have done it, thanks. I assume that sda1 refers to the disk and not any partition and thats why it starts with sda2?
[12:36] <snowdonx> bazhang: is the wireless fairly obvious that I would find it and be able to just use it without having to read to much?
[12:36] <snowdonx> bazhang: i don't mind reading but if i can figure out something intuitively i prefer that
[12:37] <bazhang> snowdonx, well, it would be nice to tell you more, but some support is kernel level, and other has drivers the 4965 I am not sure about
[12:37] <ghostknife> I am unable to resolve "za.archive.ubuntu.com", though it always worked. In fact, it worked for 4 packages and then stopped working, and hasn't worked since (about 10 minutes ago). Any ideas on how I can discover the IP to force it into my hosts file
[12:37] <snowdonx> when was that model released bazhang?
[12:38] <snowdonx> ghostknife is there a method of wiping the dnscahce "if there is any in linux"?
[12:38] <ghostknife> snowdonx: ??
[12:38] <bazhang> snowdonx, in the same time frame as your notebook, may be the one; but yes it is quite intuitive in the recent ubuntu releases, and here and the forums can give pointers if you hit a bump
[12:39] <snowdonx> thanks for all the support everyone, love and peace must go, looking forward to trying it out :)
[12:39] <bazhang> ghostknife, why not choose a different mirror
[12:39] <lady_white> good afternoon everybody
[12:40] <student> 哈囉
[12:40] <secret> does anybody cna tell me how i can find a chat for crunchbang user? i have to resolve a desktop menu problem. i dont have it and i have no idea how to install it. it is the new version 9.04. on the old version, 8.10 it worked normally.
[12:40] <bazhang> student, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[12:40] <lady_white> what kind of differences there's between ubuntu desktop and alternate?
[12:40] <bazhang> student, English only here
[12:40] <Slart> !crunchbang
[12:40] <Slart> !derivatives
[12:40] <ghostknife> bazhang: I'm doing that, but it's a huge download, and za mirror is truly blazingly fast here, because it's somewhere in the same data centre (100mb/s)
[12:40] <student> 我不會音文
[12:40] <bazhang> secret, /msg alis list *crunchbang*
[12:41] <sybariten> crap
[12:41] <secret> bazhang, i cant follow
[12:41] <bazhang> student, just /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:41] <student> ?????
[12:41] <sybariten> i think i'm on gutsy, and i suspect its unsupported
[12:41] <Slart> !gutsy
[12:41] <bazhang> !cn | student
[12:41] <Slart> sybariten: yup.. end of life was in april
[12:41] <ghostknife> bazhang: nm, found the IP ;> didn't even think of querying for the NS server upwards on the DN, which led me to the IP
[12:42] <Slart> sybariten: but you can change your repositories to .. I think it's old-releases.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <student> i喔
[12:42] <Leoneof> hello, i downloaded nVidia  driver , how to install it in Terminal, please?
[12:42] <student> ㄏ
[12:42] <Slart> sybariten: that way you can update or install software.. no bugfixes though
[12:42] <student> ?????????????????????????????????
[12:42] <bazhang> student, stop
[12:42] <Cyber_Akuma> So, now that my partitions are renumbered, I have two swap partitions, how do I tell Ubuntu to use one and not touch the other?
[12:43] <sybariten> Slart: ok, interesting... now, is that .... "country-un-specific" ?
[12:43] <oskar-> Cyber_Akuma:  that can be set in /etc/fstab
[12:43] <Leoneof> please, how to install nVidia in Terminal?
[12:43] <secret> bazhang, can you tell me how do oyu mean that?
[12:43] <jumbers> [nrx]: Okay, I manually removed that nameserver entry from resolv.conf to see what would happen and now it's working perfectly. Problem is, it says don't edit the file because it's automatically generated. What would be causing it to add that nameserver?
[12:43] <bazhang> secret, let's chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <Slart> sybariten: I think so, yes
[12:43] <snowdonx> bazhang: just wondering where do i get the live cd
[12:44] <secret> bazhang, how cn i change to there
[12:44] <DevilAsh> Hi everyone, I've got a bit of a graphics card problem. I checked lspci and then had a look at xorg.conf, and it looks like it's being handled by 'configured video device', which is just a generic identifier. So I apt-get installed EnvyNG so I could get the proper drivers, and it turns out the ATI drivers for ubuntu aren't recommended or compatible with ubuntu, what should I do from here, I'm a bit confused.
[12:44] <snowdonx> i can't find it on the website
[12:44] <Cyber_Akuma> time to google a fstab guide
[12:44] <sybariten> i do guess that i want to upgrade the release... if its possible with an apt command....  but i am at work now and need to remove some stuff from the machine so i cant do that right now and just need to install an app....
[12:44] <Leoneof> please, how to install nVidia in Terminal?
[12:44] <Slart> !upgrade | sybariten
[12:44] <lstarnes> secret: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <[nrx]> jumbers, whatever connection manage you're using :)
[12:44] <bazhang> snowdonx, the livecd/installer cd is at www.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <Slart> sybariten: but for an upgrade to work I think you need to have a working apt-mirror
[12:44] <[nrx]> jumbers, connection manager*
[12:44] <snowdonx> bazhang looked on the site but can't see the link for it
[12:44] <lstarnes> secret: also, #crunchbang
[12:44] <Slart> sybariten: so you'll need to change those repos anyways
[12:44] <snowdonx> bazhang is it called something different
[12:45] <lstarnes> Leoneof: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[12:45] <sybariten> Slart: hehe, ok... yeah that makes sense
[12:45] <sybariten> thanks Slart !
[12:45] <ameed> snowdonx: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[12:45] <Slart> sybariten: you're welcome
[12:45] <oskar-> Cyber_Akuma:  man 5 fstab
[12:45] <snowdonx> ameed already there do i just get the standard ubuntu disc?
[12:45] <darkhamm> hi people, i've this  http://pastebin.com/m7d6e3ea8 with ffmpeg, can you help me?
[12:45] <jumbers> [nrx]: I'm using the default Gnome network manager
[12:45] <snowdonx> ie ubuntu 9.10 desktop edition?
[12:46] <[nrx]> jumbers, you'll be able to set up the connection manually in the gnome manager so that it sets the correct nameservers each time that connection is used.
[12:46] <lstarnes> snowdonx: the current release is 9.04.  9.10 is an unstable, unsupported development release
[12:46] <jumbers> [nrx]: Well, I'm set up for DHCP, so I'm not manually specifying these
[12:46] <snowdonx> oh right yes typo, thanks
[12:46] <snowdonx> thats the one i'm talking about though.
[12:46] <pady> Slart, config giving these warning  http://paste.ubuntu.com/227064/, so while giving make I am getting  error :http://paste.ubuntu.com/226945/
[12:47] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:47] <sobersabre> I am using Compaq Workstation W6000.
[12:47] <snowdonx> does 9.04 desktop edition boot as an installer with the option of using it as a livecd?
[12:47] <ameed> snowdonx: Yes , Correct - after you download the ISO image burn it on a CD and boot it up from your machine
[12:47] <Pici> snowdonx: Boots as a live CD with the option of installing.
[12:47] <Cyber_Akuma> I don't get it
[12:47] <sobersabre> it has a CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1700MHz
[12:47] <snowdonx> ah thanks
[12:48] <snowdonx> sweet dling now :)
[12:48] <bazhang> snowdonx, yep both
[12:48] <ameed> snowdonx: what OS are you using now ?
[12:48] <snowdonx> on this?
[12:48] <snowdonx> XP
[12:48] <bazhang> snowdonx, also torrents if you wish
[12:48] <sobersabre> I wanted to see what's the temperature of things in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone, and there's NOTHING there.
[12:48] <snowdonx> on the laptop vista is installed
[12:48] <snowdonx> but vista is slow
[12:48] <snowdonx> and i hate it
[12:48] <FloodBot3> snowdonx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <sobersabre> Does anybody know if I need to load some kind of module to have thermal zone ?
[12:48] <sobersabre> I want to know temperatures....
[12:48] <ameed> snowdonx: you can try ubuntu on virtualbox this way you can also have both Operating System running
[12:49] <l-fy> hello
[12:49] <jumbers> [nrx]: How would I remove this entry if I'm using DHCP?
[12:49] <snowdonx> ameed: nah its alright i'm happy to wipe it I have access to lots of computers :), 1 big workstation, just got myself another workstation, and can get many more if I want
[12:49] <lorenzosu> I have aq problem when connecting to a ubuntu 9.04 host if it is running compiz+emerald: I only get a "screenshot" but then no interaction etc.
[12:49] <l-fy> i will like to know how to disable the network manager for my wireless card
[12:50] <snowdonx> Bye for now, thankyou for your help it is greatly appreciated :)
[12:50] <lorenzosu> I have a problem when connecting to an ubuntu 9.04 host with VNC if it (ubuntu) is running compiz+emerald: I only get a "screenshot" but then no interaction, like it was dead.
[12:51] <liri> is it possible to disable the trash can completely? (items will be deleted completely)
[12:51] <sobersabre> guys, my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is EMPTY. this is not normal. what do I do ?
[12:52] <lstarnes> sobersabre: does your system actually have thermal sensors?
[12:52] <sobersabre> lstarnes: how can I check ?
[12:52] <lorenzosu> liri: Doing SHIFT + DEL should bypass trash, but be careful when doing it.
[12:52] <lstarnes> sobersabre: I'm not sure
[12:52] <sobersabre> lstarnes: I think any CPU above P3 should have thermal sensor. isn't it so ?
[12:52] <[nrx]> jumbers, you can set that individual conection to mbe manually configured. It's obviously getting duff data from the DHCP server
[12:53] <xbmc> could anyone help me with LCDd? i get an lcd display with my Antec Fusion, but just some bogus chars, and when executing LCDd, the lcd panel dies
[12:53] <lstarnes> sobersabre: you could try loading a program such as sensors from the lm-sensors package
[12:53] <sobersabre> lstarnes: is sensors working with some kind of its own kernel-space module, or what ?
[12:54] <maxagaz> does usb works with virtualbox-ose ?
[12:54] <Pici> maxagaz: No.
[12:55] <lstarnes> sobersabre: I don't think so
[12:55] <k3j0_> hi all, how you have to edit the firehol.conf so that any http-traffic will be forwarded to another  IP? I already looked in the docs...
[12:55] <troythetechguy> Recently installed 9.04.  When entering vim at command line I'm informed "command not found".  However, running 8.04 vim @ CLI would launch editor.  Was vim in 8.04 a link to another editor, or was VIM installed in 8.04 and not in 9.04?
[12:55] <sobersabre> ok.
[12:55] <DevilAsh> Hi everyone, I've got a bit of a graphics card problem. I checked lspci and then had a look at xorg.conf, and it looks like it's being handled by 'configured video device', which is just a generic identifier. So I apt-get installed EnvyNG so I could get the proper drivers, and it turns out the ATI drivers for ubuntu aren't recommended or compatible with ubuntu, what should I do from here, I'm a bit confused.
[12:55] <xbmc> could anyone help me with LCDd? i get an lcd display with my Antec Fusion, but just some bogus chars, and when executing LCDd, the lcd panel dies
[12:55] <jumbers> [nrx]: I found the problem. There's an interface entry for ppp0 that has that nameserver, in the resolvconf directory. I commented it out and now it's generating it without that nameserver
[12:56] <Pici> maxagaz: The open source edition does not support USB, you'd need to install the non-ose edition from vbox's website if you wanted that.
[12:56] <[nrx]> jumbers, good :)
[12:56] <maxagaz> Pici, i'm looking for an open source solution for that
[13:00] <supermouse> Guys when running su user -c command I get the following: This account is currently not available. How do I solve this? I just want to run a script as an unpriviliged user.
[13:01] <supermouse> Guys when running su user -c command I get the following: This account is currently not available. How do I solve this? I just want to run a script as an unpriviliged user.
[13:01] <thanatos> \join #chaostheory
[13:01] <darkhamm> hi people, i've this  http://pastebin.com/m7d6e3ea8 with ffmpeg, can you help me?
[13:02] <trothigar> darkhamm, you don't have the relevant codec installed i believe
[13:02] <liri> lorenzosu: I know, but I want to remove the trash can itself (I don't want files deleted without SHIFT+DEL to go there)
[13:03] <michelem> hello folks
[13:03] <xbmc> could anyone help me with LCDd? i get an lcd display with my Antec Fusion, but just some bogus chars, and when executing LCDd, the lcd panel dies
[13:03] <lorenzosu> liri: May I ask why. Having the trash can is usually a good option.
[13:03] <darkhamm> trothigar: i installed the amrnb package, but nothing...
[13:04] <trothigar> darkhamm, alternatly you might need to recompile ffmpeg to support amrnb
[13:04] <oskar-> supermouse:  is the account locked or its login shell invalid?
[13:04] <michelem> I added the backports source to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/foo . apt-update does not fetch its databases though. "apt-config dump" shows sources.list.d in Dirs::Etc::parts . Is there any other conf needed?
[13:04] <magnetron> darkhamm: hi, you need the ffmpeg package from the medibuntu repos. add the medibuntu repos and you should be fine. follow the instruction from ubotu
[13:04] <supermouse> It's login shell is /sbin/nologin
[13:04] <liri> lorenzosu: I just don't need it
[13:04] <magnetron> !medibuntu | darkhamm
[13:04] <darkhamm> magnetron: ok i try
[13:04] <oskar-> supermouse:  set it to a valid shell, for example /bin/bash
[13:05] <supermouse> Bu then that user can login vai the console..
[13:05] <supermouse> the apace user ash the same shell
[13:06] <jumbers> [nrx]: I THINK I know what happened. I use a program to tether to my BlackBerry sometimes. It seems like what happened was it must have terminated and not had a chance to clean up its files, so it left behind a remnant saying to use 172.16.whatever, which is a "blackhole", but also used sometimes for internal network
[13:06] <oskar-> supermouse:  su -s /bin/bash -c ....
[13:07] <hansolo669> !
[13:07] <liri> lorenzosu: strikes me odd that such a thing isn't confiurable
[13:07] <liri> *configurable
[13:07] <hansolo669> !hello
[13:07] <Syrioth> hello
[13:07] <jumbers> supermouse: Why are you trying to login as the apache user?
[13:07] <[nrx]> jumbers, as long as it's all working now, not to worry :)
[13:07] <Syrioth> i'm new to ubuntu btw
[13:07] <lorenzosu> liri: I'm sure there's a way. Simply though you can do rm to delete a file forever.. so maybe more advanced users simply use the terminal
[13:07] <pmunsch> !ssh
[13:07] <bobbyd> hi
[13:08] <jumbers> [nrx]: I think I must have gotten frustrated once and terminated it without letting it do its cleanup
[13:08] <hansolo669> syroith:its ok i'v been here before
[13:08] <xbmc> could anyone help me with LCDd? i get an lcd display with my Antec Fusion, but just some bogus chars, and when executing LCDd, the lcd panel dies
[13:08] <lstarnes> supermouse: it might be easier to do sudo -u user command
[13:08] <Syrioth> kl
[13:08] <[nrx]> jumbers, sounds like normal everyday behaviour lol
[13:08] <Hayate_Yagami> Well, that was a lesson in fail. I tried to compile a Linux kernel just then... It booted fine, and worked fine too... until I tried to use the mouse...
[13:08] <lorenzosu> liri: Anyhow let me stress that using some sort of "trash" mechanism is a safeguard to errors... And human error is one of the #1 causes for data loss ;)
[13:08] <Hayate_Yagami> Where might I have fucked up?
[13:08] <lstarnes> supermouse: or maybe sudo -i -u user command
[13:08] <jumbers> lstarnes: In most cases he doesn't even need to do that. Apache starts up with /etc/init.d scripts
[13:08] <supermouse> I'm not trying to log in as the apache user, I'm saying the apache unprivileged user does not have a shell defined in /etc/passwd..
[13:09] <Syrioth> has anyone else had problems with the nvidia driver
[13:09] <Hayate_Yagami> Syrioth, no.
[13:09] <bobbyd> are there known issues with connecting to Windows VPNs using Network Manager under Jaunty? I'm using the same settings I used to use and it just doesn't work. Does anyone have that working successfully?
[13:09] <jumbers> supermouse: It doesn't have a shell for security reasons
[13:09] <darkhamm> magnetron: i haven't ffmpeg on the medibuntu packages.....
[13:09] <Syrioth> ok maybe i'm just doing something wrong then
[13:09] <supermouse> Yes, and I am saying my unprivileged user should be the same
[13:09] <magnetron> darkhamm: did you add the medibuntu repo?
[13:10] <darkhamm> yes, i browse it in synaptic, and i haven't ffmpeg
[13:10] <darkhamm> magnetron: medibuntu free universe and nonfree
[13:11] <jumbers> supermouse: What, nobody?
[13:11] <magnetron> darkhamm: in synaptic, after you add medibuntu you should "Update", then "select all upgrades" then "Apply"
[13:12] <liri> lorenzosu: which means there's no possiblity to disable it I take it...
[13:12] <lorenzosu> liri: I didn't say that.
[13:13] <michelem> ok, in sources.list.d only files ending in ".list" are parsed.
[13:15] <darkhamm> magnetron: http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/index.html , for jaunty ffmpeg is missed
[13:15] <FireFox3> Good evening, howdy
[13:15] <Syrioth> could someone help me with the nvidia driver problems
[13:16] <Syrioth> when it is enabled it goes into low res mode
[13:16] <liri> lorenzosu: you aren't say how to disable it either :) so I'm guessing it's not supported or something
[13:16] <xbmc> i get this when trying to change samba pass, Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[13:16] <lorenzosu> liri: There should be an option in nautilus>preferences in the gnome-conf
[13:17] <Alvinware> wow, rusna, and sino practicing warfare!
[13:18] <Alvinware> plan to attck usa?!
[13:20] <liri> lorenzosu: thank you
[13:22] <secret> #crunchbang
[13:22] <bazhang> secret, /join #crunchbang
[13:22] <secret> bazhang, ooh, many thanks..
[13:23] <xbmc> i get this when trying to change samba pass, Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[13:24] <deep> how to copile a c program
[13:25] <deep> how to copile a c program??????
[13:25] <deep> how to copile a c program??????
[13:25] <oskar-> deep:  stay cool... gcc -o program program.c
[13:25] <k3j0> hi how can i redict all incoming http-traffic to another PC? (firehol)
[13:25] <deep> oskar-: ok thanks
[13:25] <deep> :)
[13:26] <NET||abuse> i'm thinking i don't like inidicator applet 0.1
[13:27] <oskar-> k3j0:  with iptables and DNAT
[13:27] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[13:27] <jacquesdupontd> im using pidgin
[13:28] <brrrrrradical> good story
[13:28] <jacquesdupontd> and someone or a bot is inviting me in rooms
[13:28] <oskar-> k3j0:  iptables -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.2:80
[13:28] <Syrioth>  jacquesdupontd: same
[13:28] <xbmc> i get this when trying to change samba pass, Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[13:28] <jacquesdupontd> and then everybody goes
[13:28] <xbmc> any ideas?
[13:28] <k3j0> ty ill try
[13:28] <jacquesdupontd> and reivinting same people in other rooms
[13:28] <jacquesdupontd> i want to catch him in fact
[13:28] <trothigar> jacquesdupontd, can't you block him?
[13:29] <jacquesdupontd> i don't see him in my list
[13:29] <jacquesdupontd> that's one of the bugs of amsn or pidgin
[13:30] <BEJlukku`> hi all
[13:30] <jacquesdupontd> Syrioth, can you /msg me your msn adress to check if you are in same room as me or if i see your adress
[13:30] <jacquesdupontd> so we can locate
[13:31] <Syrioth> ok
[13:32] <brrrrrradical> hi... i've setup a dual boot with ubuntu and win7 .. when i start grub gives me the option to use ubuntu or go to the windows bootloader .. but when i select the windows bootloader it gives the error "error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format" any ideas?
[13:34] <Syrioth>  jacquesdupontd: i sent it to you
[13:34] <xbmc> what should a samba share look like in smb.conf ?
[13:36] <Moult> where can i download the latest ubuntu/kubuntu with an at least 2.6.30 kernel
[13:36] <bopeep05> hi hi hi lads
[13:36] <bopeep05> now how r u doin pirates?
[13:37] <k3j0> oskar- what does the -A command?
[13:37] <bopeep05> -A command
[13:38] <k3j0> no in the iptable command he posted
[13:38] <legend2440> Syrioth: read post # 1   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7651958
[13:38] <oskar-> k3j0:  it adds a rule to the chain
[13:38] <bopeep05> oskar
[13:38] <k3j0> hmm
[13:38] <bopeep05> i think i love u
[13:38] <oskar-> i love you, too
[13:38] <bopeep05> k3j0 i dont love u
[13:39] <bopeep05> are u a pirate?
[13:39] <k3j0> ^^
[13:39] <bopeep05> are u pirates?
[13:39] <DJones> !ot | bopeep05
[13:40] <oskar-> k3j0:  you also need forwarding between interfaces for it to work and perhaps want nat (?)
[13:40] <bopeep05> are u hackers?
[13:40] <NET||abuse> hey guys, hitting a site that uses <video> tag for video, in firefox i get no video controls, can't seem to play/pause, not sure which plalyer extension is being used to play it either, so,,, is this a problem with the site or would this be with ubuntu's configuration of the video player
[13:40] <k3j0> i have a quite complex and dirty firehol.conf
[13:40] <k3j0> ill past it, sec.
[13:40] <Pici> bopeep05: This is the Ubuntu support channel, do you have a support question?
[13:40] <bernardlychan> hey does anyone know an ISO creater  which can rip copyrited ISOs?
[13:40] <NET||abuse> if you wnna check it out, i'm on jaunty amd 64, go to www.jupiterbroadcasting.com, their beeristastey show autoplays about half way down the site.
[13:41] <bopeep05> yes I want to know if there are any hackers in here
[13:41] <brrrrrradical> does anybody here have a successful win7/ubuntu dual boot?
[13:41] <Moult> where can i download the latest ubuntu/kubuntu with an at least 2.6.30 kernel?
[13:41] <brrrrrradical> or multiboot ... w/e
[13:41] <bazhang> bopeep05, wrong channel
[13:41] <bopeep05> where can i go to find hackers then?
[13:41] <Steff> bopeep05, try #hack
[13:42] <bopeep05> ok thanks!!! :)
[13:42] <bazhang> bopeep05, no idea, NOT here
[13:42] <DJones> !piracy | bopeep05
[13:42] <mattsama2002> hi
[13:42] <bopeep05> thank u steff
[13:42] <xbmc> what should a samba share look like in smb.conf ? currently, it says i dont have permissions to access the shared dir
[13:42] <Steff> np
[13:43] <mattsama2002> hello
[13:43] <mattsama2002> hi
[13:43] <liri> lorenzosu: in nautilus > preferences > I found enable_delete and set it to true but that doesn't take, deleting a file still goes to the trashcan
[13:43] <saeed_> hello
[13:44] <lorenzosu> liri: Have you tried restarting the session?
[13:44] <k3j0> oskar-, this is my firehol.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/227187/ We have a ubuntu-router with dansguardian (172.16.200.1) and another apache (172.16.200.2) I simply want, that every http-traffic will be forwarded to our apache.
[13:44] <liri> lorenzosu: I restarted the system :)
[13:44] <liri> I'll make another test
[13:44] <bopeep05> I found it :) thanks again, u`re kind
[13:44] <lorenzosu> liri: I don't know then, sorry.
[13:45] <informacion> good morning
[13:45] <bopeep05> good evening
[13:45] <VirusTB> @ Whats sup every one, is there an LIVE cd i can use for Wndows? (i just want to browse the contents of an old computer, and see if its safe for me to format it)
[13:45] <informacion> bopeep05 hi
[13:46] <bopeep05> hi
[13:46] <informacion> i have a question about irc
[13:46] <locohost> anyoine have the issue of their xorg.conf being over written every time x starts up?  have to change it from clone to dual-head every single time i start up
[13:46] <informacion> can you helpme?
[13:46] <bopeep05> go ahead
[13:46] <bopeep05> try me
[13:46] <saeed_> i want buy a dvb card for using internet if possible help me to choice a good mark that support ubuntu
[13:46] <lvlefisto> VirusTB: you can use the ubuntu live cd and mount the disk, then browse the data
[13:46] <bazhang> saeed_, check the hcl
[13:46] <informacion> i don't speak  alot of english but here we go
[13:46] <bazhang> !hcl | saeed_
[13:46] <VirusTB> lvlefisto,  how do u mount the disk?
[13:46] <darkhamm> how can i add amr_nb support to ffmpeg?
[13:46] <oskar-> k3j0:  i don't know this firehol.conf syntax, sorry... you should try to search for it in combination with DNAT. i am sure, that others wanted this before and found solutions
[13:47] <locohost> dark, does the disk have a filesystem on it already?
[13:47] <informacion> i need recovery from a machine a registry of the files
[13:47] <k3j0> okay
[13:47] <informacion> wath we are sent to another user
[13:47] <informacion> with windows xp
[13:47] <bazhang> informacion, using Ubuntu?
[13:47] <saeed_> bazhang: what hcl?
[13:48] <informacion> using wiindows xp
[13:48] <VirusTB> erUSUL,  how do I mount my windows disk (C Drive) when in Ubuntu LIVE cd?
[13:48] <bazhang> informacion, how does this relate to Ubuntu support?
[13:48] <bazhang> saeed_, see the link above
[13:48] <locohost> mount -t nfts-3g /dev/hda2 /mnt/mywindowsdrive
[13:48] <erUSUL> VirusTB: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdxx /mnt/
[13:48] <locohost> assuming the disk is hda2, virus
[13:48] <informacion> i dont know that chat is only to support to ubuntu
[13:48] <locohost> cat /proc/partitions
[13:48] <locohost> and find out which disk it is
[13:48] <jrib> informacion: if your question isn't related to ubuntu then please try ##windows instead
[13:49] <locohost> go by size, (look for the one that is 250gb, etc)
[13:49] <bazhang> informacion, yes, ##windows for windows questions
[13:49] <informacion> ok thank a lot
[13:49] <informacion> i dont know... sorry
[13:49] <VirusTB> erUSUL, locohost  thanks! will give it  shot now on old crappy desktop
[13:49] <saeed_> if possible give me more information
[13:50] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport    <--- saeed_
[13:50] <Moult> what's the latest ubuntu (unstable) available?
[13:51] <bazhang> http://www.linuxtv.org/ saeed_ also here
[13:51] <saeed_> i saw this link but not found something
[13:51] <DJones> !karmic | Moult
[13:51] <bazhang> Moult, there is no unstable; just development ( #ubuntu+1 for support / discussion )
[13:52] <ronalwo> system doe not recognise my scanner. xsane says "no devices". mine is a hp f380 all-in-1.
[13:52] <Kingsy101> can someone help me, I having problems re-install ubuntu it keeps crashing when its copying the files...
[13:52] <thdr> hi i need some help here
[13:52] <Kingsy101> anyone seen this happen before ?
[13:52] <ronalwo> anyone using hp f300 series printer?
[13:52] <jrib> Kingsy101: did you "check the cd for defects" from the boot up menu?
[13:52] <locohost> crashes with what error
[13:52] <thdr> everytime i do an upgrade i get this: theodore@machine:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:52] <thdr> Reading package lists... Done
[13:52] <thdr> Building dependency tree
[13:52] <thdr> Reading state information... Done
[13:52] <thdr> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:52] <FloodBot3> thdr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <bazhang> ronalwo, have you checked the printing db for linux?
[13:53] <Kingsy101> jrib - oh no I didnt..
[13:53] <Kingsy101> ok 1 sec
[13:53] <ronalwo> bazhang: the printing is no problem.
[13:53] <jrib> ronalwo: just ask your question so we don't have to guess :)
[13:53] <bazhang> ronalwo, the printing db also covers the other functions; was that a yes or no?
[13:53] <locohost> whats whrong with that thrd, your upgraded
[13:53] <jrib> thdr: use paste.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <locohost> try update apt-get and not your actual packages
[13:54] <ronalwo> bazhang: where to look for the db?
[13:54] <Kingsy101> jrib - its doing it now, I will keep you updated
[13:54] <thdr> how can i fix xulrunner?
[13:54] <jrib> thdr: how is it broken?
[13:54] <liri> lorenzosu: sorry for misleading you. it works with the right click- >delete option but not with the delete button on the keyboard
[13:54] <thdr> well... i get an error and i can't run firefox
[13:54] <VirusTB>  
[13:55] <locohost> what is the error
[13:55] <lorenzosu> liri: I guess that would be a bug or something
[13:55] <bazhang> http://linuxprinting.org ronalwo
[13:55] <thdr> firefox just not running
[13:55] <thdr> the errors are the above
[13:55] <aethelrick> thdr run firefox from a console and see if it gives you any errors
[13:56] <ronalwo> bazhang: printing and scanning works before. can't scan after i upgrade.
[13:56] <Kingsy101> jrib - it found no errors
[13:56] <ronalwo> does ubuntu use udev for device control?
[13:56] <Kingsy101> jrib - any other ideas ?
[13:56] <thdr> just nothing
[13:57] <grawity> ronalwo: it does
[13:57] <aethelrick> thdr, have you made any recent changes to firefox, tried to install new packages etc?
[13:57] <thdr> the error list is richer now: Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:57] <thdr>  xulrunner
[13:57] <thdr>  xulrunner-1.9
[13:57] <thdr>  xulrunner-1.9.1
[13:57] <thdr>  firefox-3.0
[13:57] <FloodBot3> thdr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <thdr>  firefox-3.0-branding
[13:57] <saeed_> you are father dogs that can't give an answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:57] <Kingsy101> or anyone else for that matter ? my ubuntu installation is crashing when its copying files.. there is no errors on the disk I have checked.. what should I do ?
[13:58] <grawity> saeed_: #exitdoor is over there
[13:58] <fluxdude> can anyone recommend a good little desktop post-it note style program? The smaller the better...
[13:58] <ronalwo> grawity: where are the entries for scanner, which udev rules file?
[13:59] <jrib> fluxdude: you don't like tomboy?
[13:59] <jrib> Kingsy101: what speed did you burn at?
[13:59] <Kingsy101> jrib - max .. 48x
[13:59] <thdr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/227228/
[13:59] <jrib> Kingsy101: burn at 2 or 4
[13:59] <fluxdude> aguadarrama: yeah, just discovered knotes too
[13:59] <Kingsy101> jrib - does that really matter ?
[14:00] <fluxdude> err, that should have been directed at jrib:
[14:00] <thdr> what can i do...?
[14:01] <jrib> Kingsy101: based the experience of others here ,yes
[14:01] <Ileden> I'm trying to get my Radeon 9200 to work with 3d support by following the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, but while display is otherwise ok, there's no 3d support. My Xorg.0.log has only one error, which reads "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)". I'm wondering why "NVidia", since I have a Radeon card - my previous card was NVidia. Could this point to the source of my problem? Any idea on how to pr
[14:01] <Kingsy101> jrib - the lowest speed I can burn at is 16x is that ok
[14:02] <thdr> my firefox is dead, please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/227228/
[14:02] <Oli``> Can I create a RAID1  array from an existing partition using another identical (albeit empty) drive using mdadm?
[14:03] <mrglinux> why does it happen ?? this event occur for me twice why?? my / partition jump to 100% full ??
[14:03] <mrglinux> I don't install anything or ..
[14:03] <ohmygawd> hi guys, linux newbie here, is there a specific channel for beginners on here?
[14:03] <mrglinux> yesterday was 20% now is 100%
[14:03] <thdr> anyone knows how to configure xulrunner?
[14:04] <Kingsy101> jrib - well I am burning it at 16x , while its burning if this does the same thing what else can i do ?
[14:04] <NET||abuse> anyone know how to authenticate when connecting pulseaudio to a remote server, i would rather not turn off authentication?
[14:04] <locohost> does it go back down? where on the partition is the space living?
[14:05] <erUSUL> mrglinux: logs spamming ? chack the size of /var/log/
[14:05] <locohost> mrglinux, you could do something like sudo du -sh /*
[14:05] <locohost> and find out where the space is
[14:05] <locohost> /var/log/ might be a good bet
[14:05] <player1up> i have difficulty getting my cam to work on skype with ubuntu 9.04..can anyone help?
[14:05] <locohost> also try ~mrglinux/porn/
[14:05] <thdr> this is pointless.......
[14:05] <DJones> ohmygawd: This is the main ubuntu channel, this will be the best place to start asking questions
[14:05] <mrglinux> I'm doing
[14:06] <locohost> depending how big the disk and how many files, might take a very long time
[14:06] <aethelrick> thdr: your best bet is to remove firefox and xulrunner then reinstall them
[14:06] <ohmygawd> DJones: thanks, no issues yet, i just want to make sure i can be helped if it all goes wrong :P
[14:06] <snoopddrm> hello hello everyone!
[14:06] <mrglinux> locohost: do you this when your root is 1005?
[14:06] <mrglinux> **100%
[14:07] <locohost> yeah, its just reading the disk and looking for how much space ther eis
[14:07] <snoopddrm> i've just downloaded a copy of ubuntu jaunty jackalope and am trying to install it on a usb stick with persistent changes. the usb startup creator does not work. what can i do to fix this, please?
[14:07] <locohost> in the mean time, you could try ...tune2fs / -m 0
[14:07] <felipe__> alguem sabe como restaurar o xfce?
[14:07] <DJones> !br | felipe__
[14:07] <J-_> snoopddrm: Try unetbootin.
[14:07] <locohost> wait, thats not what i mean
[14:07] <felipe__> noguem la sabe
[14:08] <snoopddrm> hello, did somone message me? he/she said try unetbootin?
[14:08] <linduxed1> is there a way i can make ssh-add entries permanent?
[14:08] <jrib> felipe__: aque so se fala ingles
[14:08] <sash_> mrglinux:  a graphical tool to check the size of directories is baobab
[14:08] <snoopddrm> J-_
[14:08] <snoopddrm> J-_ hello, i tried downloading it, but the page doesn't work
[14:09] <saeed_> i'm relieve to usa
[14:09] <snoopddrm> J-_: i'll give you the link
[14:09] <H|away> hey, guys, my Xorg is eating up to 30% of CPU load even if there are no other apps working
[14:09] <uknow> is there a way to see if u have missin dependencies
[14:09] <njovanov08> can anyone help me with this problem: I used two monitors on my laptop Ubuntu 9.04 and after i unplugged the second monitor i can not adjust my laptop LSD to fullscreen
[14:10] <H|away> however it eats up only on my account, on another accounts Xorg works okay
[14:10] <lancerocke> anyone here use 'sonata'? it wont start for me anymore. just says 'starting sonata' then goes away http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1217176
[14:10] <snoopddrm> J-_: http://biznetnetworks.dl.sourceforge.net/project/unetbootin/UNetbootin/356/unetbootin-linux-356
[14:10] <snoopddrm> J-_: the page doesn't load
[14:11] <Nick0> sup /g/?
[14:11] <atjepatatje> hi there.. i can't seem to get any video while installing or running ubuntu 9.04 from the cd.. only the mousecursor and some messed up stuff at the top of te screen.. i have a compatible vga agp card.. thanks in advance!
[14:11] <Oli``> ohmygawd: you should get answers here but you might find the pace of things hard to keep track of. You might have a better social experience in #ubuntu-uk
[14:11] <saeed_> usa is a pissoir
[14:11] <sash_> snoopddrm:  afaik, unetbootin cannot create persistent installations. try http://usbuntu.slym.fr/
[14:11] <Nick0> atjepatatje: are you installing normal Ubuntu? or the server/alternate versions?
[14:12] <atjepatatje> the normal desktop cd version
[14:12] <Nick0> atjepatatje: what kind of video card do you have?
[14:12] <snoopddrm> sash_: thank you. you do your anyone else knows about installing ubuntu on a usb stick? do i need to partion or prepare it in some way?
[14:12] <J-_> snoopddrm: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:12] <mrglinux1> locohost erUSUL I checked it http://codepad.org/aYUjIH4D  my home partition is separate and also media mounted another partitions . this event occurred 2 day's ago . I had 18 GiG root after that  I reinstall ubuntu and change my root to 22 gig but just 5 gig used . now I saw / is 100% full
[14:12] <sash_> snoopddrm:  just use this tool. its totally easy
[14:13] <atjepatatje> Nick0: ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP
[14:13] <snoopddrm> sash_: thank you, i will try it now
[14:13] <J-_> heh
[14:13] <erUSUL> mrglinux1: well you can use the disk analizer to find out where the space is wasted...also as i said before check /var/log/ first « sudo du -hs /var/log/ »
[14:14] <NET||abuse> arrg,, how do i use authentication with pulseaudio?
[14:14] <Nick0> atjepatatje: just Google searching your problem right now
[14:14] <Nick0> atjepatatje: seeing what I can find.
[14:14] <uknow_> is there a way to see if u have missin dependencies
[14:14] <uknow_> my internet cuts out
[14:15] <mrglinux1>  erUSUL 7.9M	/var/log/  im doing disk analyzer
[14:17] <richardcavell> folks, anyone know of good ways to configure xorg.conf?  I'm getting awful performance and bugs from Intel GMA 950 chipset
[14:17] <Nick0> atjepatatje: did you manage to install Ubuntu yet?
[14:17] <NET||abuse> anyone know how to configure pulseaudio to authenticate on a remote pulseaudio server?
[14:18] <atjepatatje> Nick0: Nope, no video in installer either! But i've googled and it seems my videocard is NOT compatible because of agp and there are no drivers available
[14:19] <Nick0> atjepatatje: okay - did yid you do the non-graphical install then?
[14:19] <xbmc> what should a samba share look like in smb.conf ? currently, it says i dont have permissions to access the shared dir
[14:19] <snoopddrm> still doesn't work guys ;-(
[14:20] <sash_> snoopddrm: what does not work?
[14:20] <jrib> !samba | xbmc
[14:20] <atjepatatje> Nick0: is that the same as oem installation? i will trie it.. thanks!
[14:21] <Nick0> atjepatatje: it should be an option from the first install menu you get
[14:21] <sash_> snoopddrm:  did the usbuntu-program end without without errors?
[14:21] <snoopddrm> sash_: no, it didn't, there were errors
[14:22] <sash_> snoopddrm:  perhaps, your image is broken? this program worked very nice, when i tried it
[14:22] <macsim_> hi, I try to use watermark with ffmpeg but I'm unable to find the vhook folder, I try with apt-file and it gives nothing, do you know where I can find it ? thanks
[14:23] <Nick0> atjepatatje: once you get it installed, try going into a terminal by doing alt-ctrl-f1, and running: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:23] <snoopddrm> sash_: it downloaded completely and opened using the archive thingy.
[14:23] <chinacnd> i coming
[14:23] <njovanov08> after i used dual monitors i cant feet my display in full screen and the resolution seems out of focus
[14:23] <richardcavell> anyone using GMA 950 chipset?  I'm looking for an xorg.conf file that works well with this chipset
[14:23] <DJones> 3/whois chinacnd
[14:23] <Nick0> maybe also : sudo apt-get install fglrx-control
[14:23] <sash_> snoopddrm:  well, where are the problems?
[14:23] <NeoCicak> hi ..... can anyone tell me how i can install firefox 3.5 on ubuntu 9.04? I've installed it through 'software manager', but then the firefox shortcuts are still pointing to 3.0.12....
[14:24] <Kingsy101> jrib - thanks man that re-burn worked great :)
[14:24] <Nick0> richardcavell: under Ubuntu?
[14:24] <jrib> Kingsy101: cool
[14:24] <DJones> !ff35
[14:24] <richardcavell> Nick0: yep
[14:24] <Nick0> richardcavell: do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
[14:24] <locohost> was afk, so yeah, mrg, all your crap is in media....
[14:24] <richardcavell> NeoCicak: you have to manually change your shortcuts
[14:24] <locohost> what did you put in media?
[14:25] <locohost> do the same thing, except down 1 level in media
[14:25] <locohost> sudo du -sh /media/*
[14:25] <snoopddrm> sash_: i try it again
[14:25] <macsim_> NeoBlaster, just change your /usb/bin/firefox link to /usr/bin/firefox-3.5
[14:25] <NeoCicak> shiretoko??? whats that...... the project code name?
[14:25] <locohost> or maybe its obvious if you ust ls -ltah /media/
[14:25] <lstarnes> NeoCicak: yes
[14:25] <richardcavell> Nick0: Yes
[14:25] <locohost> 28gigs dont just appear in media on a default install
[14:26] <mrglinux1> erUSUL look at this http://tinypic.info/files/gx0t0jrip8gz5uslh32s.png
[14:26] <macsim_> locohost, ext3 ?
[14:26] <thdr> does anyone know why when i try to upgrade i get these errors and my firefox is dead? http://paste.ubuntu.com/227304/
[14:26] <snoopddrm> sash_: [/tmp/.fr-AcpZuY/uSbuntu Live Creator 1.5/uSbuntu Live Creator.exe]
[14:26] <snoopddrm>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[14:26] <snoopddrm>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[14:26] <snoopddrm>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[14:26] <snoopddrm>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[14:26] <snoopddrm> zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /tmp/.fr-AcpZuY/uSbuntu Live Creator 1.5/uSbuntu Live Creator.exe or
[14:26] <FloodBot3> snoopddrm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <Nick0> richardcavell: heh don't have anything for you otherwise, i actively avoided intel 9xx chipsets in all my hardware
[14:26] <locohost> what? i assume sow, but i dont see how that makes a difference
[14:26] <locohost> so*
[14:26] <Nick0> richardcavell: i hear it's well supported though
[14:26] <richardcavell> Nick0: Literally, software rendering is faster than OpenGL for a game I want to play
[14:26] <macsim_> locohost, pastebin you're /etc/fstab
[14:27] <NeoCicak> great.. thx all
[14:27] <richardcavell> Nick0: but I get bugs, and I think they're from the driver
[14:27] <danbhfive> thdr: xulrunner failed to install proper
[14:27] <lancerocke> anyone here use 'sonata'? it wont start for me anymore. just says 'starting sonata' then goes away http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1217176
[14:27] <snoopddrm> sash_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/227306/
[14:27] <richardcavell> Nick0: Intel GMA 950 chipset has poor performance under Ubuntu
[14:27] <richardcavell> Nick0: I'm on a laptop so I can't upgrade
[14:27] <Nick0> richardcavell: that's disappointing to hear
[14:27] <thdr> what can i do?
[14:27] <progre55> hi people! how is good with crontab? how to tell to repeat a job every 15 min? "# m h dom mon dow user  command" other than "0,15,30,45  *  *  *  *   myscript"?
[14:27] <progre55> who*
[14:27] <sash_> snoopddrm:  ok. i think, i misunderstood you... i thought, you would use win and wanted to create a live-usb-stick...
[14:27] <lstarnes> thdr: where did you get the packages from?
[14:27] <locohost> think you got the wrong person, i was trying to help <mrglinux figure out why 28gb appear magically in /media after a clean install
[14:28] <lstarnes> progre55: that's probably the only way
[14:28] <thdr> from the official repositories
[14:28] <jrib> progre55: */15 will work as well
[14:28] <locohost> my guess is that he copied 28g of media there, but thats just a guess
[14:28] <progre55> jrib, thanks
[14:28] <snoopddrm> sash_: no, i want to create a persistent ubuntu installation on a usb stick. i'm in ubuntu 9.04 now.
[14:28] <lstarnes> thdr: have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[14:28] <erUSUL> mrglinux1: well if home and media are in their own partitions i do not see where the space is wasted ...
[14:28] <progre55> jrib, so, if I want to run it every second min, I would have "*/2", right?
[14:28] <erUSUL> mrglinux1: have you tried to pass an fsck to the filesystem ?
[14:28] <richardcavell> Nick0: I'm almost thinking of downgrading to 8.04 because the driver is known to be better on that distro than in Jaunty
[14:29] <jrib> progre55: yeah
[14:29] <Nick0> richardcavell: i did
[14:29] <sash_> snoopddrm:  unfortunately, i dont know, how to create a persistent stick under ubuntu. just the "normal" live-stick. sorry
[14:29] <locohost> did you recently delete something very big?
[14:29] <Nick0> richardcavell: just to get driver support for my ati card
[14:29] <erUSUL> mrglinux1: can you paste also « df -h » output ?
[14:29] <mrglinux1> erUSUL: for previous I did it
[14:29] <lstarnes> progre55: what about */15?
[14:29] <snoopddrm> sash_: oh, okie.... thanx though ;-)
[14:29] <richardcavell> Nick0: I can't fathom why they break compatibility in future releases
[14:29] <progre55> jrib, hmm... I have added it into my /etc/crontab, but do I need to activate the crontab somehow? because I dont think it's running the script..
[14:29] <Nick0> richardcavell: well ATI dropped support for my card on the latest Xorg server
[14:29] <thdr> yes, same thing...
[14:29] <jrib> progre55: how did you add it?
[14:30] <mrglinux1> erUSUL: http://codepad.org/GiZuszJV
[14:30] <progre55> lstarnes, yep, that's what jrib said :) thanks
[14:30] <Nick0> richardcavell: and 9.04 uses the latest Xorg server
[14:30] <progre55> jrib, edited /etc/crontab
[14:30] <locohost> mrglinux, after you pastebin df -h, post some nude pics of your girlfriend, we should be able to figure it out with th at
[14:30] <locohost> j/k
[14:30] <jrib> progre55: you are supposed to run « crontab -e » not edit the file manually
[14:30] <richardcavell> Nick0: I'm trying to find a distro that has decent support
[14:30] <richardcavell> Nick0: either that or I'm going to install Windows
[14:30] <Nick0> richardcavell: none will most likely
[14:30] <richardcavell> Nick0: Windows *always* works
[14:30] <lstarnes> thdr: the error on line 11 appears to be the first one you should try to correct
[14:31] <Nick0> richardcavell: usually these problems extend beyond distros
[14:31] <Nick0> richardcavell: errr extend to all distros i mean
[14:31] <progre55> jrib, yeah I had that.. but then for some reason, it would die after a minute running.. I mean, the script.. so I decided to add it manually :)
[14:31] <sash_> snoopddrm:  but perhaps, this can help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:31] <thdr> how?
[14:31] <jrib> progre55: don't add it manually :)
[14:31] <erUSUL> mrglinux1: well  the only thing left to try afaik is fsck... do « sudo touch /forcefsck » and reboot
[14:31] <richardcavell> Nick0: I realise
[14:31] <lstarnes> thdr: I'll see if I can find any bug reports related to it
[14:32] <thdr> thnX
[14:32] <jrib> progre55: make sure you have a final newline as well
[14:32] <Nick0> meh i'm going to get back to the job hunt
[14:32] <locohost> meeting, afk for a while
[14:32] <lstarnes> thdr: but first, please pastebin the output of update-alternatives --verbose --display xulrunner
[14:32] <snoopddrm> does anyone know how to create a ubuntu 9.04 persistent installation on usb drive?
[14:32] <progre55> jrib, okay =) but dont you know why it would not run for more than a minute? because when I run on the terminal, it lasts about 7-8 mins, but when run by crontab, not more than 1-2 mins..
[14:33] <sash_> snoopddrm:  but perhaps, this can help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:33] <thdr> i get this: error or eof reading /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/xulrunner for update_mode ()
[14:33] <richardcavell> Nick0: I'm going to dpkg-reconfigure. Talk to you again in 3 days when I un-fsck my installation
[14:33] <snoopddrm> does anyone know how to do a persistant installation on usb thumb drive ?
[14:33] <jrib> progre55: no I don't know.  What are you running?
[14:33] <jrib> snoopddrm: read the link sash_ just gave you?
[14:33] <progre55> jrib, a php script
[14:34] <lstarnes> thdr: can you pastebin that file?
[14:34] <thdr> ok
[14:34] <snoopddrm> jrib: yeah, i just read it, thanx sash ;-)
[14:34] <AceKing> does anyone know how to setup a remote connection from one desktop to another? I tried Remote Desktop, but I can't connect to the host
[14:34] <jrib> progre55: without pastebining more details I don't know
[14:34] <thdr> there http://paste.ubuntu.com/227329/
[14:35] <progre55> jrib, well it's too huge to pastebin, several files :) well, thanks anyways, I'll have another look into my script =)
[14:35] <lstarnes> thdr: no, that;s not it.  I meant the file referred to by the error
[14:35] <lstarnes> thdr: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/xulrunner
[14:36] <thdr> this file is empty
[14:36] <jrib> progre55: "php time limit" turns up some hits.  Check that out maybe.  Try ##php too
[14:36] <lstarnes> thdr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.1/+bug/367354 looks like it may be related
[14:37] <progre55> jrib, oh, that might be the problem =) thanks a lot! appreciate
[14:37] <thdr> thank u very much Istarnes, i 'm checking it out
[14:37] <roxie> Firefox menu bar is missing... i accidentally deselected the "Menu Bar"... How do I bring it back? ubuntu netbook remix
[14:38] <richardcavell> Nick0: my xorg.conf has almost nothing in it.  I'm a little worried.
[14:38] <lstarnes> thdr: for future reference, I found that by searching for that error on https://bugs.launchpad.net
[14:38] <MOUD> Hello
[14:38] <darkhamm> hey people, i haven't amr_nb support on ffmpeg, what audio codec can i use for a amall 3gp conversion?
[14:39] <ugliefrog> when i use my f9 key it fades out..not completeley the window im in...very annoying i need that key for blender...any ideas on y it does that
[14:39] <roxie> Help: Firefox menu bar is missing... i accidentally deselected the "Menu Bar"... How do I bring it back? ubuntu netbook remix
[14:39] <MOUD> I have ubuntu 8.10 and I wish to upgrade to 9.04 , I want to know if there's something I have to do before trying to upgrade it.
[14:39] <thdr> much appreciated Istarnes
[14:39] <lstarnes> thdr: if you're registered on launchpad, it might be a good idea to comment on that bug
[14:39] <lstarnes> thdr: also, it might be a good idea to use a font which doesn't confuse I and l
[14:40] <thdr> will do
[14:40] <Nick0> richardcavell: do you have 915resolution installed?
[14:41] <Nick0> MOUD: make sure you have a compatible video card
[14:41] <richardcavell> Nick0: No.  It conflicts with xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:41] <Nick0> MOUD: older ATI cards have no accelerated driver from ATI in 9.04
[14:41] <richardcavell> Nick0: I can't install it
[14:41] <Nick0> richardcavell: okay - i guess in 9.04 they make it redundant to have that package
[14:42] <Guest31336> Подскажите пожалуйста.Установил Ubuntu на Raid0.Raid на чипсете материнки Intel.Ubuntu загружаеться, а разделы NTFS не видно?
[14:42] <ugliefrog> when i use my F9 key it fades out..not completeley the window im in...very annoying i need that key for blender...any ideas on y it does that
[14:42] <MOUD> Nick0: I have a Geforce 8700M GT
[14:42] <Nick0> MOUD: should be okay then
[14:43] <MOUD> Nick0: ok, thanks.
[14:43] <Nick0> MOUD: check the forums though about your particular hardware, especially anything that you really want support for
[14:43] <roxie> Please help me.
[14:44] <MOUD> Nick0: I will
[14:44] <Nick0> roxie: post your problem.
[14:44] <roxie> Firefox menu bar is missing... i accidentally deselected the "Menu Bar"... How do I bring it back? ubuntu netbook remix
[14:44] <Ubuntuisforfags> h41 gui3s
[14:44] <Ubuntuisforfags> h41 gui3s
[14:45] <Nick0> roxie: hahaha
[14:45] <Ubuntuisforfags> h41 gui3s
[14:45] <Nick0> roxie: how'd you do that? :-)
[14:45] <thdr> Istarnes: That did the trick!!!  tnX !!!
[14:45] <kalakouentin> should I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 or not? I mostly use FF,OpenOffice and R (statistics). Is my system going to be faster?
[14:45] <lstarnes> thdr: that's a lowercase L, not a capital I, but you're welcome
[14:45] <Ubuntuisforfags> So I hear the latest release is just debian with kiddie config tools
[14:45] <richardcavell> Nick0: I just want to play old Windows games. I might as well buy a cheap computer for Windows
[14:45] <roxie> I accidentally right clicked on the toola bar area and i clicked on menu bar... then the whole thing disappeared
[14:45] <lstarnes> Ubuntuisforfags: trolling is forbidden
[14:45] <Nick0> kalakouentin: as a person that uses all those programs (a little bit of R at least), NO
[14:45] <richardcavell> kick Ubuntuisforfags please
[14:46] <Ubuntuisforfags> lstarnes u fgt
[14:46] <Ubuntuisforfags> block my ip dickwad
[14:46] <Chousuke> !ops | Ubuntuisforfags
[14:46] <thdr> lstarnes: thank u very much, will comment it
[14:46] <Nick0> heh
[14:46] <Nick0> richardcavell: yeah, just put win98 on it
[14:47] <Nick0> richardcavell: low overhead, full compatibility
[14:47] <Nick0> richardcavell: except your hardware possibly
[14:47] <kalakouentin> Nick0, thank you.
[14:47] <lstarnes> roxie: what happens when you try alt+f?
[14:47] <richardcavell> Nick0: no, I won't install Win98 on this.  It wouldn't work.  But I can get an old system from ebay or something
[14:47] <roxie> brings up the find toolbar at the bottom of my screen
[14:48] <Nick0> roxie: that's ctrl-f
[14:48] <roxie> oh wait that was ctrl f. alt f
[14:48] <roxie> hehe k
[14:48] <ameed> Hello All , a forwarded a subdomain to my apache server and i have index.html as default document which has the redirect code for domain name for example if (url.indexOf("telejood") != -1) window.location= "http://www.joodtelecomgroup.com/JoodTGHome/Group/";  i would like to know how can i redirect sub.domain.com to http://207.210.233.100/ecsticket/
[14:48] <Nick0> richardcavell: what laptop model is it?
[14:48] <richardcavell> Nick0: Macbook, second-generation
[14:48] <roxie> ok it brings up a menu to the left... il try to figure it out. thanx guys
[14:49] <Nick0> richardcavell: lol
[14:49] <Amnesia> hi does anyone know something 'bout qemu over here?
[14:49] <Nick0> Amnesia: qemu? why do you HAVE to use that vm?
[14:49] <roxie> yay i got it. thanx
[14:49] <richardcavell> Nick0: why lol?
[14:50] <Amnesia> Nick0: Cause apparantly I should be able to boot from my usb stick with it
[14:50] <Pici> ameed: Probably best to ask that in the channel for whatever language that is or #apache or similar.
[14:50] <Amnesia> Nick0: I just don't know how
[14:50] <Nick0> richardcavell: you mentioned Mac, that changes everything.
[14:50] <slap_stick> does anyone know of a way to be able to figure out what process is joining a specific multicast network?
[14:50] <ameed> Pici: am using Html code
[14:50] <ameed> Pici: which channel do you recommend for that ?
[14:50] <Pici> ameed: #html
[14:51] <ameed> Pici: OK thanks
[14:51] <Nick0> Amnesia: ummm boot into a VM or on your desktop?
[14:51] <Amnesia> Nick0: A vm
[14:51] <Nick0> Amnesia: Sun VirtualBox will do that, and it has a pretty GUI
[14:51] <dew> hello all
[14:51] <Nick0> Amnesia: i think it will at least...
[14:51] <richardcavell> Nick0: I'm on ebay right now. I can get a damn good system for $500 brand new
[14:51] <Amnesia> Nick0: it can't boot from usb devices
[14:52] <Amnesia> Nick0: apparantly VMware can also do it but vmware sucks arsew
[14:52] <dew> need help with dual install
[14:52] <roxan> Hi, How can I know the kernel version available with Hardy
[14:53] <Nick0> Amnesia: okay yeah i don't see it in VirtualBox
[14:53] <lstarnes> roxan: with current updates, I have 2.6.24-24 in hardy
[14:53] <kira_> hi all is somebody using ivman??
[14:53] <Amnesia> Nick0: :) it only supports usb mass storage in Vbox
[14:53] <Nick0> Amnesia: ummm i don't know man, qemu has a pretty high learning curve, i'd honestly try vmware
[14:53] <lstarnes> roxan: hardy appears to be using the 2.6.24 branch of the kernel
[14:53] <Nick0> Amnesia: there's free versions for personal use
[14:53] <Amnesia> Nick0: mmkay
[14:53] <Amnesia> Nick0: ahh well there's still warez:p
[14:54] <dew> can any1 help me with dual install?
[14:54] <pivotraze> hi, i have linux mint (ubutnu based, jaunty) and i have a MAJOR xorg/nvidia problem
[14:54] <roxan> lstarnes: I want to know how to find it myself
[14:54] <lstarnes> roxan: are you currently using hardy?
[14:54] <Nick0> Amnesia: yeah, but even the free version will do just about everything you want most likely.
[14:54] <Amnesia> Nick0: nais
[14:54] <roxan> !ask | dew
[14:54] <Cube> hey guys. im having issues with my netbook being pretty slow. i see its using 20% of the swap, although its only using like 40% or the actual RAM. is there any way to fix that?
[14:54] <pivotraze> hi, i have linux mint (ubutnu based, jaunty) and i have a MAJOR xorg/nvidia problem
[14:55] <roxan> !ask | pivotraze
[14:55] <lstarnes> pivotraze: mint is not an official derivitave of ubuntu
[14:55] <roxan> lstarnes: no,
[14:55] <lstarnes> roxan: you could try looking in an online package database
[14:55] <pivotraze> okay, can you still help me though since it is
[14:55] <pivotraze> ?
[14:55] <roxan> Cube: LInux caches rest
[14:55] <lstarnes> roxan: ubottu has a method for that.  try /msg ubottu info linux-image-generic hardy
[14:55] <Cube> roxan: hmm?
[14:56] <stew> Cube: its normal for linux to use some swap for things being rarely used so that the ram can be better used to speed your machine up
[14:56] <roxan> lstarnes: where exactly
[14:56] <stew> Cube: this is controlled by the 'swappiness' setting in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness ; though its not recommended to mess with it
[14:57] <dew> i tryed a dual install. and now it gets to the grub boot screen then desplays <windows root>/system32/hal.dll where the ubuntu install screen should b.
[14:57] <pivotraze> I have a Nvidia RIVA TNT Model 64 PRO graphics card, and when booting up i get 3 errors, really just saying "no drivers available." This started happening after installing a nVidia update. How do i fix this???
[14:57] <lstarnes> roxan: just type that into your irc client.  /msg is the command that irc clients use for sending private messages.  That will send the message "info linux-image-generic hardy" to ubottu
[14:57] <mbeierl> Cube: it has pushed some programs out to swap to make room for file system cache.  In other words it sees that there are files that you are accessing more frequently than the programs, so it puts some programs into swap and keeps the files in memory instead to speed things up
[14:57] <roxan> Cube: and by default its 60, so its little aggressive
[14:57] <Cube> stew: ok gotcha. didnt know that. oh and: my netbook is pretty slow in general, wasnt like that at the beginning. especially the boot times are ridiculous. i dont even boot anymore, but close all programs and hibernate (and than wake it up from that). is there any way to get rid of start up programs? (i know of the perferences -> session way, but its not showing all of them)
[14:57] <Amnesia> Nick0: Apparantly "qemu -hda /dev/sdx" should do it
[14:58] <roxan> dew: you killed windows aswell as grub
[14:58] <pivotraze> I have a Nvidia RIVA TNT Model 64 PRO graphics card, and when booting up i get 3 errors, really just saying "no drivers available." This started happening after installing a nVidia update. How do i fix this???
[14:58] <mintux>  
[14:58] <thiebaude> see everyone later after i install ubuntu
[14:58] <locohost> TNT? thats old school
[14:58] <mbeierl> Cube: the boot time is getting slower?
[14:59] <xlq> I've installed mplayer with apt but I haven't got the mplayer manpage - where is it?
[14:59] <pivotraze> locohost: I know, this is an 8 to 9 year old computer.
[14:59] <locohost> You should get a Voodoo Banchee
[14:59] <Cube> mbeierl: yes, also.
[14:59] <lightningseed> pivotraze: it sounds like you need a legacy driver or something
[14:59] <mbeierl> Cube: that is not normal.  Have you installed extra services since the initial install?
[14:59] <locohost> 3dfx ftw
[14:59] <lightningseed> pivotraze: your card is probably no longer supported in the new version of the nvidia drivers
[14:59] <pivotraze> lightningseed: I have installed the official driver for TNT2 model drivers from nVidias download site to no avail, where would i get the legacy driver?
[15:00] <Nick0> Amnesia: cool - learn something new every day
[15:00] <mrglinux> erUSUL doesn't solve
[15:00] <dew> pivotraze had the asame problen
[15:00] <xlq> Oh, I do have it - it just doesn't load
[15:00] <Cube> mbeierl: oh yeah. for example, i was playing around with sendmail. i got the sendmail package, then got rid of it again, yet every time i boot the graphical boot progress bar stops for a second, goes into text mode (showing whats going on right now), says that the mail transfer agent (MTA) is starting up. this takes like an extra 15+ seconds.
[15:00] <lightningseed> pivotraze: also if you updated to the nvidia drivers ubuntu provides....the installer modifies your xorg.conf file
[15:01] <gal> Hello i saw this thing which has a toolbar in the bottem screen that has icons i can start up and you can slide it right and left anyone know whats the name for that application ?
[15:01] <roxan> lstarnes: yes it works, thanks
[15:01] <pivotraze> on nVidias site, i went to Legacy --> TNT2 Model --> Linux 32 bit.
[15:01] <roxie> how do i get firefox out of safemode... ubuntu netbook remix
[15:01] <pivotraze> and i used envyng. is that what you are talking about?
[15:01] <locohost> if you stop and start postfix, does it take that long?
[15:01] <locohost> sendmail
[15:01] <gal> its like a starting applications toolbar you can slide for ubuntu , anyone familiar with that ?
[15:02] <mbeierl> Cube: it still trying to start sendmail after the removal.  Odd. Let's make sure it's completely gone: dpkg -l | grep mail
[15:02] <gal> can slide right and left to search
[15:02] <mbeierl> Cube: does it show anything when you run that in a terminal?
[15:02] <pivotraze> i also used synaptic package manager. it didnt work
[15:02] <Cube> mbeierl: oh yes
[15:02] <lstarnes> roxie: how did it get into safe mode?
[15:02] <Cube> mbeierl: like 20 lines
[15:03] <roxie> i typed in the terminal : sudo firefox -safemode ... because of my earlier problem
[15:03] <roxie> but that was before i did the alt f
[15:03] <lstarnes> roxie: why did you use sudo for that?
[15:03] <pivotraze> so where do i get the legacy driver?
[15:03] <gal> anyone?
[15:03] <kira__> Hi i have ubuntu 9.04 with fluxbox ... i instaled ivman and it runns without errors but he cant find my usb sticks oder usb hdd
[15:03] <sash_> roxie:  using sudo to start graphical programs can be a very bad idea
[15:03] <locohost> roxie, i think you  just need to close all sessions
[15:03] <roxie> i didnt know i didnt have to
[15:04] <locohost> and launce it again
[15:04] <mbeierl> Cube: do they all start with "ii" or do some say "rc" ?
[15:04] <lstarnes> roxie: you should never run regular graphical applications with sudo.  You should use gksudo instead, but even then you shouldn't use it except for administrative programs
[15:04] <wera> hello
[15:04] <HGF> hello all. i am having a problem with java (applets not running in firefox) even though I installed the JRE. is any1 out there able to help?
[15:04] <roxie> i didnt know... im new to ubuntu
[15:04] <wera> you crazy wo
[15:04] <locohost> well, lstar, if he sufs the web as root, he should be able to get to all websites, right?  :P
[15:04] <mbeierl> HGF: 32 bit or 64 bit?
[15:04] <jonex_> IF SOMEBODY KNOWS AJAX PLEASE IM ME
[15:04] <jfletcher> hi there, what is the difference in all the nvidia-glx-$number drivers?
[15:04] <stew> kira__: stop ivman and run "ivman --debug --no-fork" then plug in the device and see what messages come out
[15:04] <lstarnes> !caps | jonex_
[15:04] <wera> asu
[15:04] <HGF> mbeierl, 32 bit
[15:04] <pivotraze> where do i get the legacy drivers
[15:04] <gal> anyone familiar with a program that runs for you in the screen a slide bar with icons you can start from your computer programs ?
[15:05] <lstarnes> roxie: sudo and gksudo are only used for runing things as root (the administrator account) or as another user
[15:05] <jonex_> i need help with ajax
[15:05] <mbeierl> HGF: I'm 64 primarily, but what is the problem, maybe I can help
[15:05] <wera> you have in indonesia
[15:05] <Pici> jonex_: #ajax would be more appropriate
[15:05] <locohost> even if you get the right drives for a TNT, it is still going to suck
[15:05] <ghfcu> anyone know how to remote desktop to external network?
[15:05] <pivotraze> Where do i get legacy drivers?
[15:05] <legend2440> HGF: try these java tests to see if it passes   http://www.javatester.org/index.htm
[15:05] <roxie> on my laptop eversince ive used ubuntu i have always had to add sudo to it... i guess i shouldnt have this time
[15:06] <Buggaboo> Hi
[15:06] <wera> hi
[15:06] <HGF> mbeierl, i installed the JRE in hopes of being able to use websites that use javascript applets. I installed the JRE but all those java tests fail
[15:06] <Buggaboo> I'm trying to connect my kvm qemu virtual guest to the virtual host bridge using tap.
[15:06] <mbeierl> pivotraze: have you checked here? http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[15:06] <wera> yes
[15:06] <locohost> HGF, you close all browser sessions and restart FF?
[15:06] <ghfcu> anyone knows how to remote desktop on an external network?
[15:06] <Cube> mbeierl: some have rc
[15:07] <Buggaboo> I'm on the ubuntu server, latest version, and I see a virbr0
[15:07] <Cube> mbeierl: mostly ii though
[15:07] <HGF> locohost, yes. many times.
[15:07] <roxie> lstarnes: what do i do?
[15:07] <Buggaboo> how do I change the ip-address of the virbr0 interface?
[15:07] <locohost> ghfcu, depends what software you are using .... `rdesktop x.x.x.x` is a start
[15:07] <lstarnes> Buggaboo: use ifconfig
[15:07] <wera> you contry ?
[15:07] <mbeierl> HGF: in firefox, when you go to "about:plugins" does the java plugin show?
[15:07] <pivotraze> mbeierl: Never knew of that, but i dont know which to get? I have an intel pentinium 4 processor
[15:07] <HGF> it says in some java tests that java is not enabled in firefox, but it certainly is checked off
[15:07] <locohost> assuming the server is listening on x.x.x.x and fw is open etc
[15:07] <lstarnes> roxie: what's the issue?
[15:07] <jonex_> if somebody knows ajax pleaseim me
[15:07] <HGF> mbeierl, that is one of the tests i did and no, it does not show.
[15:07] <Buggaboo> lstarnes, I mean permanently.
[15:08] <ghfcu> locohost, I'm currently using the built-in remote desktop from Ubuntu 9.04
[15:08] <locohost> jonex, there has to be a better room, this is an ubuntu room
[15:08] <Pici> jonex_: I already told you where to ask.  AJAX is not on-topic for #ubuntu
[15:08] <lstarnes> Buggaboo: you could probably edit something in /etc/network/interfaces or use a script to set it up
[15:08] <locohost> vnc
[15:08] <kira__> device cant be mounte cause is not a volume
[15:08] <mbeierl> pivotraze: oh - sorry - x86 linux is not there ?!?
[15:08] <Buggaboo> lstarnes, there must be some config file that changes this thing's behaviour...
[15:08] <roxie> ‍lstarnes: the problem i just caused... using sudo firefox -safemode
[15:08] <ghfcu> locohost, yes; vnc4viewer
[15:08] <lstarnes> roxie: what is the problem that was caused by that?
[15:08] <locohost> can you connect to it from other computers on your local network?
[15:08] <legend2440> HGF: in terminal   sudo update-alternatives --config java   how many choices and which is selected(has * next to it?)
[15:09] <ghfcu> locohost, yes
[15:09] <roxie> ‍lstarnes: you said not to use sudo with graphical programs or something
[15:09] <lstarnes> roxie: yes
[15:09] <locohost> what port, 5900?
[15:09] <mohamed> hi
[15:09] <mbeierl> Cube: does sendmail show as "ii"?
[15:09] <lstarnes> roxie: the problems cause by that vary
[15:09] <ghfcu> locohost, yes
[15:09] <roxie> ‍lstarnes: firefox is now stuck in safemode... i already restarted my computer, and its still in safemode
[15:09] <lstarnes> roxie: even when starting it normally?
[15:09] <Cube> mbeierl: i got sendmail-base -bin and -cf, all are ii
[15:09] <locohost> so, login to your router, linksys or whatever, and fwd port 5900 to the private ip address of your linux box
[15:09] <roxie> yes
[15:10] <HGF> legend2440, it says: There is only 1 program which provides java
[15:10] <HGF> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[15:10] <HGF> levi@levi-laptop:~$
[15:10] <lstarnes> roxie: pastebin the output of this command: stat ~/.mozilla
[15:10] <mbeierl> Cube: "sudo aptitude purge" them to completely uninstall them
[15:10] <roxie> ‍lstarnes:what do u mean paste bin
[15:11] <lstarnes> !paste | roxie
[15:11] <ghfcu> locohost, how about on a westell router?
[15:11] <mbeierl> HGF: did you install the sun-java6-jre package, or did you download the jre from Sun?
[15:11] <ghfcu> locohost, firefox or opera is not compatible to view additional settings to allow me to port forwarding
[15:11] <locohost> yeah, pretty much every cable/dsl router lets you nat
[15:11] <mbeierl> HGF: there is another package sun-java6-plugin that you should install to get the JRE plugin for mozilla
[15:11] <HGF> mbeierl, i used the add/remove thing and searched java
[15:11] <locohost> what?
[15:12] <Leoneof> my wireless was work fine, but now is not work :S
[15:12] <locohost> it wont let you navigate the web interface in FF?
[15:12] <ghfcu> locohost, nope
[15:12] <locohost> is it flash or java or something?
[15:12] <ghfcu> locohost, only accepts ie6 - sucks
[15:12] <mrglinux> I searched a lot but nobody reach to solve this problem (root partition  showed 100% full ) . I can not reinstall linux every 2days  . I had this problem 2 days ago with 18GIG / partition and I had to reinstall ubuntu . I changed root partition and put it another where and changed to 23 gig . today it shows your root partition is full 100%
[15:12] <mrglinux> but it's not
[15:12] <HGF> mbeierl, what do i type in terminal to get it?
[15:12] <Cube> mbeierl: it said nothing got uninstalled
[15:13] <ghfcu> locohost, nope
[15:13] <MaskedDriver> Morning everyone
[15:13] <mbeierl> HGF: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[15:13] <jwo> MaskedDriver: morning
[15:13] <_UsUrPeR_> I am trying to echo "#!/bin/bash"  into a file, but it keeps giving me the error bash: #!/bin/bash" event not found
[15:13] <jwo> lol
[15:13] <lstarnes> roxie: once you submit it, you will need to give me the link
[15:13] <edgar_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:13] <edgar_> helloooooooooooooooooooooo
[15:13] <Leoneof> my wireless was work fine, but now is not work, any help? :S
[15:13] <_UsUrPeR_> how do I get around this? I have tried using escape characters, but it actually echoes them with everything else
[15:13] <HGF> mbeierl, wow . i am getting an error: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:13] <HGF> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:13] <roxie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/227442/plain/
[15:13] <ghfcu> locohost, I go to the router from the default route ip address and go to expert mode to find the NAT from the configure menu, but it doesn't display it
[15:13] <roxie> i think thats it
[15:14] <mbeierl> Cube: "sudo aptitude purge  sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf" said nothing removed?
[15:14] <jwo> HGF: sudo reboot
[15:14] <mbeierl> HGF: do you have a package manager GUI open?
[15:14] <linuxman410> mrglinux is this a dell laptop
[15:14] <ghfcu> locohost, what would you suggest?
[15:14] <HGF> no,
[15:14] <sisif> Hello guys. Small noob question here. I`v get got my notebook back from service, where they changed the whole MB. Weird thing now - my ether does not work anymore. I do have a link on it, and it shows up in lspci. Some friend told me that I need to update the MAC address of the new ether chipset so that the kernel recognize it. Any ideas on how I can do that ? Thanks ?
[15:14] <jwo> hi guys, i formatted an external USB flash drive to Ext4 and cannot write to it
[15:14] <lstarnes> roxie: what happens when you start firefox in the terminal as "firefox" &
[15:14] <roxie> lstarnes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/227442/plain/ is that it?
[15:14] <mrglinux> linuxman410: no normal type of pc
[15:14] <lstarnes> roxie: yes
[15:14] <locohost> well, set the nat up on one of your windows machine then
[15:15] <HGF> mbeierl, now it wont let me open synaptic - same error. can not get a lock or whatever
[15:15] <roxie> still in safe mode
[15:15] <HGF> mbeierl, no nothing is open but xchat
[15:15] <mbeierl> HGF: there is some program that has it open right now.  If you want we can search for it.
[15:15] <linuxman410> mrglinux my friend had same problem but it was a dell and i removed all partitation and it was fine
[15:15] <HGF> mbeierl, not that i know. do i need to reboot maybe ? or will this not fix
[15:15] <jwo> HGF: most likely a program has failed to quit, such as synaptic so you will need to kill it
[15:16] <linuxman410> after i repartition and loaded
[15:16] <lstarnes> roxie: any error messages in the terminal?
[15:16] <ghfcu> locohost, can there be another solution to access NAT on a linux platform via unbuntu from another browser?
[15:16] <HGF> jwo, how does one kill it?
[15:16] <jwo> HGF: open a terminal and type "top" to find out the processes that are running and kill the problem ones
[15:16] <roxie> lstarnes: nope, it popped up firefox
[15:16] <ubuntunewbie> hi would like to know - how do I check what application is accessing the internet ? Went and check netstat but It doesn't list out which application is accessing the internet.IT only show IP
[15:16] <mrglinux> but this problem refer to ubuntu not hard or another things . because another people had this problem and ...
[15:16] <ghfcu> localhost, ie via windows pc is my last opition
[15:16] <mrglinux> maybe it refer to ext4
[15:16] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: netstat -alp
[15:16] <mrglinux> ?
[15:16] <mbeierl> HGF: "sudo lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[15:16] <locohost> i am sure there is
[15:17] <dew> Ubuntu fails to install (dual instal Xp) brub loads then displays "<windows root>/system32/hal.dll"
[15:17] <ghfcu> locolhost, option*; any help would do
[15:17] <locohost> maybe you can enable telnet
[15:17] <dew> grub*
[15:17] <Cube> mbeierl: ok now theyre gone
[15:17] <lstarnes> roxie: you could try moving ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.bak then seeing if you still start in safe mode
[15:17] <locohost> or enable remote management and have your friend login and do it for you or soemthing
[15:17] <ghfcu> locolhost, most 3rd party remote control softwares are only Windows compatible
[15:17] <roxie> lstarnes: how do i do that
[15:17] <lstarnes> roxie: just remember that that method will temporarily reset your settings until you move ~/.mozilla.bak back to its right place
[15:18] <grawity> ghfcu: VNC? ssh?
[15:18] <lstarnes> roxie: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[15:18] <HGF> mbeierl, i did that command
[15:18] <Cube> mbeierl: but the system is still kinda running slow. what else could i do?
[15:18] <Sirkill9alot> I can't download the power pc iso image... it keeps stalling, once on 318mb, another on 435mb
[15:18] <Sirkill9alot> what is going on!
[15:18] <ghfcu> grawity: yes, currently
[15:18] <mbeierl> Cube: ok, so that might help speed boot time, but that won't make the netbook that much faster overall.
[15:18] <mrglinux> what shall I do ? no solution ??
[15:19] <Sirkill9alot> anyone here have any idea how to stop my download stalling at like 64 or 50%
[15:19] <Cube> mbeierl: yeah exactly
[15:19] <mbeierl> HGF: sorry - I just tried a test and that lsof cmd does not show who has it locked.
[15:19] <ghfcu> locohost: how to use remote management, from local machine or on the router?
[15:19] <sash_> Cube:  which netbook do  you use?
[15:19] <HGF> mbeierl, still getting the lock error hah,
[15:19] <Cube> sash_: eee 1000he
[15:19] <frostburn> Sirkill9alot, you may wish to use bittorrent instead of an http download
[15:19] <mbeierl> HGF: you can try a reboot, but I am curious to find out how to determine what program holds the lock...
[15:20] <locohost> some will let your enable remote management, then you can login to the web interface over the internet
[15:20] <ghfcu> grawity: just trying to remote assist on a desktop outside my network
[15:20] <Sirkill9alot> frostburn any links?? the best bittorrent i can see only has 3 seeders..
[15:20] <Cube> mbeierl: sash_: also, the battery life is significantly slower than the promised 9.5h. even without bluetooth, wifi, cpu underclocked, low brightness no sound i never even get 6h
[15:20] <HGF> mbeierl, i will try to reboot. be right back. thanks for help. ill talk to you soon lol
[15:20] <locohost> not particularly  secure, but temporarly, i would not worry about it
[15:20] <sash_> Cube:  i use 1000h with ubuntu 9.04 (standard) and have absolutely no problems. i use another window-manager and have boot times around 28 seconds from grub to login
[15:20] <troythetechguy_> I just installed 9.04 on a machine that's a few yrs. old w/ AMD 2.2Ghz, 2 GB RAM, 200GB HDD.  Runs great under Ubuntu, but when I open XP in VirtulaBox, PC crashed 3 times in a row when XP is loading.  I check memory, it's ok.  Other ideas?
[15:20] <mbeierl> HGF: ciao for niao
[15:20] <favor> hi, is there a  translation software on ubuntu for english to chinese?
[15:21] <mbeierl> Cube: I don't have a netbook, so I can't say for sure what to do there...
[15:21] <ghfcu> locohost: I'll try that and see what happens. thanks
[15:21] <roxie> lstarnes: am i supposed to type that somewhere? mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[15:21] <frostburn> Sirkill9alot, you'll need to open up your ports for bittorrent to get more seeds
[15:21] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes : Thanks but the list is too long , the terminal limits it , I can't scroll anything above
[15:21] <Cube> sash_: hmm ok. coz im using easy peasy, which runs ubuntu 8.10
[15:21] <sash_> and well, i dont get the promised 7 hours, but even not in windows
[15:21] <lstarnes> roxie: it's a command.  You type it into your terminal
[15:21] <Cube> sash_: hmm
[15:21] <sash_> Cube:  in jaunty _everything_ runs out of the box
[15:21] <Cube> kk
[15:22] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: try netstat -alp | less
[15:22] <Cube> sash_: but i mean its H not HE, might be little different right?
[15:22] <ghfcu> locohost: last question, do you know any other remote control software/program that is linux compatible?
[15:22] <roxie> mv: cannot stat `/home/roxie/.mozilla': No such file or directory
[15:22] <sash_> well, afaik HE is better than H ^^
[15:22] <Sirkill9alot> hhmm frostburn dont understand wat u mean, im on the site to download the torrent n the site is saying its only got 5 seeds
[15:22] <lstarnes> roxie: that's strange.  Try starting firefox again
[15:23] <ghfcu> locohost: if not, then don't worry about it.
[15:23] <roxie> ok for some reason it came back to life now haha.
[15:23] <lstarnes> roxie: apparently your .mozilla got wiped out before the move
[15:23] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes : thank you , it works :-)
[15:23] <roxie> k... so everything is back to normal from when i first got the program?
[15:24] <lstarnes> roxie: I think so
[15:24] <locohost> vnc is probably the best
[15:24] <locohost> well, second to ssh
[15:24] <HGF> mbeierl, back. reboot seemed to work. but i got an error msg when opening synaptic
[15:24] <roxie> yeah, my add ons are gone and also preferences... thanx lstarnes.
[15:24] <mbeierl> HGF: what's the msg?
[15:24] <ghfcu> locohost: how to use ssh on ubuntu? Is it via tunnel?
[15:24] <HGF> mbeierl, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:24] <HGF> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[15:25] <edbian> Is there a good way to clean out all of the .<appName> folders (in my /home) for the programs I no longer have installed?
[15:25] <lstarnes> edbian: you'll probably have to remove them manually
[15:25] <mbeierl> HGF: ok.  close synaptic and drop down to a terminal.  obviously when we rebooted, it interrupted a dpkg process that was running
[15:26] <HGF> mbeierl,  okay what should i do in terminal
[15:26] <edbian> lstarnes: Maybe I could write a script?
[15:26] <MarkStoddart> Hi all
[15:26] <mbeierl> HGF: once in the terminal, execute: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[15:26] <grawity> edbian: removing manually would be a lot safer
[15:26] <linduxed1> why do i get "unknow host" for everything i type after traceroute6?
[15:27] <grawity> edbian: a script cannot know if ~/.mission-control, for example, belongs to which program.
[15:27] <HGF> mbeierl, after typing in password, nothing happened
[15:27] <grawity> linduxed1: what have you tried so far? give some examples
[15:27] <edbian> grawity: Seems odd to me that there isn't an automated way of handling these files.  Like with dpkg or something.
[15:27] <mbeierl> HGF: did the cmd prompt come back or is it still running?
[15:28] <HGF> mbeierl, no prompt
[15:28] <HGF> it just shows my name like it does when i start up terminal
[15:28] <grawity> edbian: that would be a bad idea.
[15:28] <linduxed1> grawity: http://pastebin.com/m58a69767
[15:28] <dew> <windows root>/system32/hal.dll any1 had this problem with dual boot?
[15:28] <locohost> well, you can tunnel stuff through ssh if thats your question, but ssh is a client/server for remote cli
[15:28] <mbeierl> HGF: ok, so it cleared the problem, it should be good now.  Try running "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" in the terminal
[15:29] <grawity> linduxed1: erm. traceroute6 is for IPv6 addresses only
[15:29] <grawity> linduxed1: for IPv6 addresses you use simply 'traceroute'
[15:29] <ghfcu> locohost: I'll figure it out, thanks again for those tips. Later
[15:29] <edbian> grawity: ?  Why not prompt the user?  For example: add a flag to apt-get  (-h or something) that will also remove the .<appName> folder when you are removing the program.  Similar to apt-get remove Vs. apt-get purge.
[15:29] <HGF> mbeierl, it is downloading
[15:29] <edbian> grawity: Why is this a bad idea?
[15:29] <grawity> linduxed1: second, "http://www.google.com/" is a full URL, and it will never work for traceroute either
[15:30] <HGF> mbeierl, i spoke too soon. something def isnt working
[15:30] <mbeierl> HGF: good.  once done, you should be able to see... oh no.
[15:30] <HGF> let me use that pastebin thing to show you
[15:30] <linduxed1> grawity: i only have the following commands: tracepath  tracepath6 traceroute6 traceroute6.iputils
[15:31] <grawity> linduxed1: then install traceroute
[15:31] <mbeierl> HGF: ok
[15:31] <HGF> mbeierl, http://pastebin.com/md2ed510
[15:31] <linduxed1> grawity: that worked, stupid problem, simple solution
[15:32] <richardcavell> everyone, what graphics card are you running and how well does it work under Ubuntu?
[15:32] <linduxed1> grawity: i simply though the 6 version was an upgrade
[15:32] <scott__> my mouse stops workin, how can i fix this?
[15:33] <H_M-Laptop> Hey is there a way to force something to end? (For example, using killall)
[15:33] <mbeierl> HGF: are you on a 64 bit or 32 bit system.  I recall you said 32, but I thought that it would do the right thing there
[15:33] <xbmc> replace batteries :p
[15:33] <HGF> mbeierl, 32 for sure
[15:33] <grawity> linduxed1: it is, kind of - traceroute uses IPv4, and traceroute6 uses IPv6, which is newer but still rare
[15:33] <AceKing> does anyone know how to setup a remote connection from one desktop to another? I tried Remote Desktop, but I can't connect to the host
[15:33] <HGF> mbeierl, im on a dell 600m, very old laptop
[15:33] <H_M-Laptop> I want to kill conky immediately instead of having to wait for it (As it runs commands that make it wait to end)
[15:33] <grawity> H_M-Laptop: killall -9 programname, kill -9 processid, and so on
[15:33] <mbeierl> HGF: "dpkg -l | grep java" - pastebin that for me please?
[15:34] <H_M-Laptop> grawity, thanks.
[15:34] <grawity> H_M-Laptop: -9 (or -SIGKILL) will kill instantly
[15:34] <Graviton> scott__: Which mouse, under what circumstances does it stop working, more info, please
[15:35] <scott__> graviton, micro innovations optical ps2 thru usb adapter, any circumstance
[15:35] <HGF> mbeierl, http://pastebin.com/m2c691b03
[15:35] <Graviton> So a wired mouse, then?
[15:36] <scott__> graviton yes
[15:36] <nsahoo> chrome got experimental support for plugins that can be enabled by --enable-plugins
[15:36] <Graviton> Try checking dmesg and/or syslog when it stops working
[15:36] <nsahoo> it is looking for a 32bit plugin, is there a 32 bit wrapper or something on the 64 bit plugins?
[15:36] <scott__> how will i do that when the mouse don't work?
[15:36] <Graviton> I assume it works when you boot, and then stop working after some amount of time
[15:37] <mbeierl> HGF: oh.  There does not seem to be a sun java installed at all.  Ok. what happens when you do a "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"?
[15:37] <AceKing> grawity: You started to help me yesterday with setting up a remote desktop, then I didn't hear anything. You have time to help?
[15:37] <Graviton> type dmesg|tail in a terminal right after the mouse stops working
[15:37] <Graviton> Or dmesg|less if it has been a while
[15:37] <grawity> AceKing: I have time, but I don't know anything about setting up VNC
[15:37] <scott__> graviton: yeah i have to reboot to get er goin again. but i'm not sure how to open a terminal without a mouse
[15:37] <MaT-dg> trying to help someone with remote desktop but the image is not updating
[15:37] <grawity> scott__: Alt-F2, gnome-temrinal
[15:38] <HGF> mbeierl, iirc, when i went to add programs and searched java, i installed some Open java thing - i cant remember quite the name
[15:38] <grawity> scott__: er, gnome-terminal
[15:38] <AceKing> grawity: Ok, thanks anyway
[15:38] <scott__> gotcha
[15:38] <HGF> mbeierl, i will try and install again
[15:38] <urthmover> I have accidentally deleted the gnome toppanel, how do I re-add it?
[15:38] <Graviton> !panel | urthmover
[15:38] <Graviton> Hmm
[15:38] <scott__> will that work right now graviton?
[15:38] <mbeierl> HGF: OK!  Now I understand!  The open java is still in development iirc.  I don't think it completely works yet.  I do know that the one from Sun does work, though
[15:38] <Graviton> !gnome-panel | urthmover
[15:39] <grawity> !search panel
[15:39] <grawity> !resetpanel | urthmover
[15:39] <HGF> mbeierl, okay same error when trying to install the JRE
[15:39] <Graviton> Indeed, thank you, grawity
[15:39] <Graviton> scott__: Possibly
[15:39] <HGF> mbeierl, do you want the error pasted. i believe it is similar from trying to install the plugin
[15:39] <colbertj> :-\
[15:39] <Graviton> If dmesg has anything about your mouse, it will
[15:39] <mbeierl> HGF: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin" - no it's ok about paste
[15:40] <colbertj> how come ubuntu doesnt have the resolution listed for my secondary monitor
[15:40] <colbertj> if i set it as my primary i can make the resolution larger
[15:40] <Graviton> Otherwise try 'sudo less /var/log/syslog' to see if syslog has anything
[15:40] <urthmover> Graviton: great top panel is back thanks
[15:40] <HGF> mbeierl, getting error after doing that. would you like it pasted?
[15:40] <colbertj> also how can I apply dual monitor desktop wall papers
[15:40] <scott__> graviton: its been about 20 mins since my last reboot. dmesg|tail doesn't mention mouse
[15:41] <stillRise> I have started the LiveCD of Ubuntu, how do I get access to my MS Vista drive (NTFS) ?
[15:41] <OttifantSir> Is there a speed-difference with Cat5-cables vs Cat6-cables when you're using a Gigabit router between Gigabit network cards?
[15:41] <mbeierl> HGF: ok
[15:41] <Graviton> scott__: dmesg gets overwritten (I believe) with every reboot
[15:41] <colbertj> is there  a way to extend wallpapers across two monitors in ubuntu
[15:41] <shivek> Hi Everyone !
[15:41] <colbertj> ?
[15:41] <HGF> mbeierl, http://pastebin.com/m6557854a
[15:41] <shivek>  I have a problem with ddclient. Can anyone help ? !
[15:41] <Graviton> So you'll have to wait until your mouse stops working
[15:41] <jrib> shivek: just ask your question
[15:42] <soreau> stillRise: You have to mount it. For instance. Assuming ntfs is on the first hard drive on the first partition, do something like 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && ls /mnt' should mount it and show you the contents if successful
[15:42] <locohost> colb, yes, use a background that is the resolution of both your monitors put together...
[15:43] <Graviton> scott__: And as mentioned, you might also want to try dmesg|less to get the entire output of dmesg (and still be able to scroll through it)
[15:43] <locohost> 2880x1800 or something
[15:43] <mbeierl> does anyone know why HGF's apt is not automatically resolving dependencies?!?
[15:43] <noren> helo everyone!!
[15:43] <HGF> :/
[15:43] <soreau> OttifantSir: If you're using all gigabit equipment, I believe cat6 would make a difference because the wires are wound tighter producing a cleaner signal
[15:43] <shivek> I've configured ddclient, but my websites ip does not updates or it updates to my local ip (192. one) so my website becomes unavailable.
[15:43] <scott__> graviton: holy cow, its all greek to me man, long list too in the sudo less /var/log/syslog result
[15:43] <noren> i am looking for some good webcrawler in ubuntu /kubuntu please help !!
[15:43] <mbeierl> HGF: try this instead "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-bin"
[15:43] <colbertj> locohost: how come ubuntu sees my secondary monitor as a lower resolution than my primary
[15:43] <legend2440> HGF: in terminal try  sudo apt-get -f install
[15:44] <colbertj> both monitors have the same native resolution
[15:44] <stewart_> hello i have just installed nginx for the first time.  I am trying to get it working using fastcgi and php.  I can get index.php to work fine however when i try and run drupal the browser prompts me to download install.php. Why is nginx not sending this to the fastcgi?
[15:44] <Graviton> scott__: Press / and then type mouse or ps/2 or something to that effect
[15:44] <Graviton> That will make it search through the text
[15:44] <chris__> hi
[15:44] <Graviton> When in less, that is
[15:45] <chris__> my usb 2.0 port is very slow (~3MB) and i havfe recognised that neither the ehci nor the uhci module is loaded. google tells me i should modprobe one of them. but they don't even exist in /lib/modules! why is that?
[15:45] <noren> !webcrawler
[15:45] <HGF> mbeierl, it started to install, i pressed "y" (yes) and then it said it could not locate a file for the sun.....
[15:45] <mbeierl> legend2440: not sure that's going to be a good idea - it won't resolve the dependencies and he'll have a possibly broken package
[15:45] <colbertj> how come my desktop doesnt load in ubuntu
[15:45] <lazy|crazy> #linuxac
[15:45] <mbeierl> HGF: interesting.  try "sudo aptitude update" - maybe your source list is out of date?
[15:45] <colbertj> I have the panels on top and bottom
[15:45] <OttifantSir> soreau: A mix-match actually. two computers with Fast Ethernet, and two computers with Gigibit Ethernet. I just want the fastest speed possible for the ones that have the possibility.
[15:45] <scott__> graviton:  Jul 23 07:08:34 scott-desktop kernel: [    2.702683] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[15:46] <soreau> HGF: Do you have a working internet connection on the box you're trying to install java?
[15:46] <HGF> mbeierl,  i an trying legend2440 's suggestion now...lets see here
[15:46] <colbertj> but for some reason no icons show up on the desktop (despite them being in the desktop directory) and also the background doesnt show up
[15:46] <grawity> colbertj: can you press Alt+F2 and open nautilus?
[15:46] <colbertj> and i cant right click on it
[15:46] <HGF> soreau, i am on the box right now :P
[15:46] <soreau> OttifantSir: Then by all means, go with cat6
[15:46] <Graviton> scott__: Do your mouse work at the moment?
[15:46] <scott__> yeah
[15:46] <colbertj> grawity, yea
[15:46] <OttifantSir> soreau: Thanks man.
[15:46] <creature_> where would be the best place to find out abput installing and setting up an apache webserver for the first time
[15:47] <Graviton> scott__: Then you won't find anything of interest yet
[15:47] <HGF> legend2440, i am at t his blue screen that says configure sun-java6-bin
[15:47] <chris__> where are the uhci and ehci usb modules in ubuntu jaunty?
[15:47] <HGF> how do i advance
[15:47] <grawity> creature_: the Apache channel is #httpd, also ##linux can be helpful.
[15:47] <scott__> graviton: that time stamp lines up with about when it broke down tho
[15:47] <soreau> HGF: It's usually helpful if you copy/paste the error to a pastebin service then post the link here so we can see what you are seeing
[15:47] <Graviton> Hmm
[15:47] <creature_> thanks grawity
[15:47] <Pici> creature_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP is a good place to start for installing it, grawity's channel's for configuring it.
[15:47] <ikonia> HGF: page down and accept the license agreement
[15:47] <HGF> kk let me try
[15:47] <Graviton> Ah, you're looking through syslog
[15:47] <HGF> i paged all the way down
[15:47] <HGF> how do i click that okay
[15:47] <HGF> "ok"
[15:47] <grawity> HGF: Press Tab and Enter
[15:47] <colbertj> grawity: is there a way to get the things in my desktop folder to show up on my desktop
[15:47] <ikonia> HGF: tab to it
[15:47] <HGF> oh thank
[15:47] <colbertj> and also get the background changed
[15:48] <soreau> HGF: If you're at that blue license screen, just use the arrow keys to select yes, you do accept agreement terms nad press enter
[15:48] <HGF> kk i did that, it is working
[15:48] <mumu> hello. anybody compile thc-hydra 5.4 ?
[15:48] <grawity> colbertj: nautilus is responsible for displaying the desktop; can you run it from Terminal?
[15:48] <HGF> it is unpacking
[15:48] <colbertj> yes...it opens up a file browser
[15:48] <colbertj> i have a GUI loaded no problem
[15:48] <Graviton> scott__: It seems, however, from the number in the brackets that the line you just pasted is from your computer booting
[15:48] <colbertj> just no icons on the desktop and i cant right click on the desktop
[15:48] <colbertj> but all my programs work
[15:49] <grawity> colbertj: I KNOW, you just said that.
[15:49] <stillRise> how can I test if I have access to the drive I just mounted ?  I went to filesystem->dev->sda1 did not work (Ubuntu 8.0)
[15:49] <frostburn> colbertj, i've had that issue before, i fixed it by moving icons from my desktop to another folder and restarting x
[15:49] <grawity> colbertj: go to Terminal; type: killall -9 nautilus; (nautilus &)
[15:49] <HGF> mbeierl, i will let you know how this works when it is installed
[15:49] <Threetimes> Hi, I just installed Windows 7 RC, but there are no network drivers for my NIC. I restored grub and booted my older Ubuntu, but Ubuntu also won't see my NIC. It's a Realtek Gigabit RTL8111DL.
[15:50] <grawity> stillRise: /dev/sda1 is the actual device; you need to go to the mount point (which probably is in /media, or /mnt, or whatever).
[15:50] <soreau> colbertj: You probably need to enable the show_desktop gconf key in the path apps>nautilus>preferences via gconf-editor, then restart nautilus
[15:50] <grawity> stillRise: also, how did you mount it?
[15:50] <scott__> graviton: ok lemme ask ya this, when next it craps out on me again, and i drop the command to check wut happened, what sorta info am i really lookin for? will it explain anything to a noob like me or should i come back here with the results?
[15:51] <Pici> Threetimes: This is #ubuntu, you want ##windows
[15:51] <stillRise> grawity: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force
[15:51] <mumu> hello. anybody compile thc-hydra 5.4 ?
[15:51] <soreau> stillRise: The command I gave you mounted it to filesystem>/mnt
[15:51] <Pici> Threetimes: er, I misread there.  Are you asking about Ubuntu or Windows?
[15:51] <grawity> stillRise: so the mount point is /media/disk, and this is where you should go check.
[15:51] <ikonia> mumu: just ask your questions
[15:51] <saml> how can I create a file in /etc/logrotate.d ?
[15:51] <Threetimes> Pici: both :D (ubuntu is more important)
[15:51] <stillRise> ah, ok, thank you guys
[15:51] <soreau> stillRise: The command you just showed would have mounted it to filesystem>/media/disc
[15:51] <bassliner> saml: touch /etc/logrotate.d/foo
[15:52] <Graviton> scott__: It probably won't tell you anything, no
[15:52] <saml> bassliner, yah but i can't write to it if i open it up in editor.. i did sudo vim /etc/logrotate.d/foo
[15:52] <bassliner> saml: then you should in any case be able to do so
[15:52] <Graviton> I'm leaving in about half an hour, but of course you can always ask someone else
[15:52] <scott__> graviton will it tell YOU anything
[15:52] <grawity> saml: do you know how to use the 'vim' editor? If not, better use 'nano'
[15:52] <HGF> mbeierl, okay  i think it finished doing the install in terminal, but java still "disabled" according to java tester in ff
[15:53] <Graviton> scott__: Hard to tell, it might
[15:53] <scott__> dang it
[15:53] <grawity> saml: in 'vim', before typing text you need to enter "Insert mode" by pressing the 'i' key.
[15:53] <saml> oh crap it was extension
[15:53] <scott__> graviton can ya point me in the right direction to look this up on the interweb?
[15:53] <saml> i did /etc/logrotate.d/foo.jar
[15:53] <saml> somehow it thought it's a zip file
[15:53] <legend2440> HGF: open synaptic and see if   sun-java6-plugin is installed
[15:53] <chris__> does anybody have problems with usb speeds? i can't find the ehci module on my machine. is this normal?
[15:54] <mazda01> anyone know where firefox stores it's session info file? I want to open firefox 3.5 using the restore session option from the tabs i have open in firefox 3
[15:54] <ikonia> saml: why are you putting a jar file or a zip file in that directory
[15:54] <grawity> saml: well, .jars _are_ zip archives.
[15:54] <bassliner> saml: http://paste.debian.net/42496/
[15:54] <ikonia> saml: that is for configuration files
[15:54] <colbertj> soreau, where is apps>nautilus>preferences?
[15:54] <grawity> colbertj: in gconf-editor
[15:54] <saml> no, that's my service name.. foo.jar
[15:54] <HGF> legend2440, will try hold
[15:54] <mumu> ikonia, I have unsatisfied dependences (Checking for SAP/R3 (librfc/saprfc.h) ...
[15:54] <mumu>                                       ... NOT found, module sapr3 disabled)
[15:54] <ikonia> saml: ahh so that is a configuration file
[15:54] <Graviton> Try googling for something like ps/2 mouse stops working, that's about what I can think of, off the top of my head
[15:54] <mumu> where i can get it?
[15:54] <soreau> colbertj: It's in ~/.gconf technically, but you want to use 'gconf-editor' to access it vis gui
[15:54] <Graviton> And there's always the forums, of course
[15:54] <xlq> My cstdint is for C++0x ... !
[15:55] <ikonia> mumu: look on the hyrda website or the README or INSTALL file it should call out dependencies
[15:55] <scott__> graviton, ok brother thanks for tryin to help anyhoot. i appreciate yer time. have a groovy day now
[15:55] <ikonia> mumu: although SAP/R3 doesn't seem like a critical dependency
[15:55] <Graviton> You too, scott__
[15:55] <Threetimes> Hi, I just installed Windows 7 RC, but there are no network drivers for my NIC. I restored grub and booted my older Ubuntu, but Ubuntu also won't see my NIC. It's a Realtek Gigabit RTL8111DL.
[15:56] <HGF> legend2440, okay synaptic open how do i check for java?
[15:56] <Cube> im running ubuntu 8.10 (running easy peasy actually) when gnome 3.0 comes out, will i be able to install it manually?
[15:56] <ikonia> Threetime check your bios
[15:56] <mumu> ikonia, i read it, and read forums
[15:56] <ikonia> Threetimes: if two OS's can't see it, its either your bios or a fault
[15:56] <ikonia> mumu: ok - so it should call out the dependencies
[15:56] <xlq> So, my cstdint is, effectively, broken.
[15:56] <legend2440> HGF: open synaptic and see if   go down to sun-java6-plugin and see if it is installed   green box next to it?
[15:57] <shambat> I want to rotate logs in several directories in the same way...can I specify a rotate rule like this and accomplish this? /var/log/gwlogs/*/local1 {rules here}  I want to rotate all log files named local1 in all subdirectories of gwlogs, but in seperate files of course
[15:57] <Threetimes> ikonia: I double-checked my bios, and the board is still quite new. It must be Windows 7 somehow (i hope...)
[15:57] <mumu> ikonia, when i ./configure, i see "Get it from http://www.sap.com/solutions/netweaver/linux/eval/index.asp"
[15:57] <mumu> but it is not free
[15:57] <ikonia> Threetimes: how can it be windows if neither OS can see it
[15:57] <ikonia> mumu: ok - there is your problem then
[15:57] <mazda01> anyone know the name of the firefox restore session file?
[15:57] <mumu> ;/
[15:57] <ikonia> mumu: but I don't see that as a critical dependency
[15:58] <mumu> yep
[15:58] <Threetimes> ikonia: Windows put the NIC in some kind of sleep, and I have to get it out of it (just a silly theory...)
[15:58] <mumu> but i can't "make"
[15:58] <ikonia> Threetimes: I doubt that
[15:58] <Threetimes> ikonia: Me too
[15:58] <ikonia> mumu: well - you need to buy the library if that IS the problem
[15:58] <ikonia> Threetimes: more likley a problem with the board or bios
[15:58] <HGF> legend2440, only -bin and -jre , not -plugin
[15:58] <HGF> legend2440, should i set it to download the plugin too?
[15:58] <legend2440> HGF: right click plugin choose install
[15:59] <Threetimes> ikonia: what in the bios can I check? Can an OS change the bios?
[15:59] <ikonia> Threetimes: the os can't change teh bios, Ii don't know what your options are in the bios, just make sure the card is enabled in the bios, if there is an option
[15:59] <soreau> Threetimes: If windows nor ubuntu can use the card despite correct drivers installed, there is the chance the card could be bad
[15:59] <crazysoul> i am currently running(not succesfully) kernel 2.6.28.3.1-rt (realtime(, anybody know how i could install a previous rt??
[16:00] <Dekko> Hello everybody.
[16:00] <HGF> legend2440, installed. will check java in ff now
[16:00] <Threetimes> ikonia: It is enabled, and I don't know of any other options. It  is a AMI BIOS.
[16:00] <ikonia> crazysoul: older versions are in synpatic/repos you need to change your policy
[16:00] <Dekko> Does anyone here know why both my monitors blacks out when switching to console (CTRL+ALT+F2) when using nvidia drivers?
[16:00] <ikonia> Threetimes: then it's probably a motherboard issue
[16:00] <Dekko> How can I fix this?
[16:01] <Threetimes> ikonia: What if it's not?
[16:01] <ikonia> Threetimes: then two OS's find your board incompatible
[16:01] <mumu> ikonia, How I can turn off check this dependence?
[16:01] <HGF> legend2440, perfect, it works
[16:01] <ikonia> mumu: look at ./configure --help
[16:01] <legend2440> HGF: ok
[16:01] <soreau> Dekko: The nvidia driver is probably switching to an output mode not supported by your monitors. Since bugging the nvidia folks is all but completely useless, you might try a different nvidia driver version instead
[16:01] <Threetimes> ikonia: It always worked, until I installed Win7. It even worked in XP!
[16:02] <stillRise> soreau: I checked the Documents and Settings folder, it has 0 items in it, is there any other way I can try to get access to the drive/directory to try to recover files in that directory ?
[16:02] <ikonia> Threetimes: if it did work - now it doesn't work in multiple OS's it is most likley a hardware problem
[16:02] <mbeierl> HGF: sorry - got called away from desk for a bit there.  it's working now?
[16:02] <grawity> soreau: Um, the consoles use 640x480. Not supporting _that_ would be insane.
[16:02] <soreau> stillRise: Do you see all the other directories?
[16:02] <mazda01> how do i use the find command to find anything with firefox in it and I don't care what's in front or behind the filename?
[16:02] <HGF> mbeierl,  testing now
[16:02] <grawity> mazda01: find /path -name '*firefox*'
[16:03] <HGF> mbeierl,  looks like it :)
[16:03] <soreau> grawity: It could be some bizarre refresh rate. I wouldn't put it past the nvidia drivers to do something stupidly insane
[16:03] <ikonia> mazda01: find / -name '*firefox*' -print
[16:03] <mbeierl> does any one else have a problem with Xorg process growing in memory size?  Mine's up to 544m again and won't shrink unless I restart X
[16:03] <grawity> ikonia: -print is the default
[16:03] <stillRise> soreau: yes and some with data, like WINDOWS, Program Files, etc.  That one is like the only empty directory
[16:03] <ikonia> grawity: not for this old timer
[16:03] <mazda01> ikonia, do i need the single quotes in there?
[16:03] <ikonia> mazda01: yes
[16:03] <grawity> mazda01: yes, you need
[16:03] <mumu> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m4f451792
[16:03] <mumu> this in ./configure --help
[16:03] <ikonia> mumu: no joy then
[16:03] <mumu> only
[16:03] <soreau> stillRise: You have it mounted, and you're viewing the files. What you see is what is actually there
[16:03] <ikonia> mumu: can't disable it without hacking the script
[16:04] <locohost> sometimes i accidentally type sexit and it makes me giggle.
[16:04] <mazda01> ikonia, and now how do I add a rm to that?
[16:04] <ikonia> mazda01: are you SURE you want to remove firefox ?
[16:04] <ikonia> mazda01: can't you remove it from the package manager to do it clean ?
[16:04] <mazda01> ikonia, is it something like | xargs rm -f?  yes I am sure. I am merely removing files from a backup directory tree.
[16:05] <ikonia> -exec rm -rf {}/;
[16:05] <stillRise> soreau: is there an HD tool I can run to identify bad sectors ?
[16:05] <grawity> mazda01: -exec rm -rf {} \;
[16:05] <diddy> Some of the paths in my syslog.conf have a minus sign in front of it. What does that mean?  Example: -/var/log/mail.info
[16:05] <grawity> ikonia: er. that will remove /, no?
[16:05] <ikonia> mazda01: wrong slash there, thank you grawity
[16:05] <ikonia> typo
[16:05] <MaskedDriver> ikonia, dangerous typo :)
[16:05] <ikonia> very
[16:05] <soreau> stillRise: In linux, fsck is for linux native partitions like ext3 for example. For ntfs, you have to use whatever MS offers. Ask in #windows maybe
[16:06] <mazda01> ikonia, so that full command is sudo find /media/500gb/backup/ -name '*firefox*' -print -exec rm -rf {} \;     is that right?
[16:06] <grawity> ikonia: that must be why rm now requires --no-preserve-root now :)
[16:06] <ikonia> mazda01: looks good
[16:06] <ikonia> grawity: yes, praise be to coreutile
[16:06] <ikonia> utils
[16:06] <sash_> mazda01:  try "{}"
[16:07] <need_help> hello i'm trying to do : usermod -md /home/test test1 (directory test don't change to test1 why? Thx Tips: test user has removed and want to change everything to test1 thx =)
[16:07] <HGF> i have a silly question, i am downloading a java program, and the file ends in .sh. how do i install it?
[16:08] <mattgyver> Does anyone know how to setup sending email via the command line via gmail's smtp?
[16:08] <stillRise> soreau: thanks for your help
[16:08] <Dekko> Soreau: Can you force console mode into opening in a resolution supported?
[16:08] <need_help> HGF i think use chmod +x java file then type ./java.sh
[16:08] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[16:08] <soreau> Dekko: not to my knowledge
[16:08] <grawity> mattgyver: sending email from command line requires having a local SMTP server - exim4-light is nice, and easy to set up.
[16:08]  * Dekko loves Ubuntu but that is just so messed up.
[16:09] <natewiebe13> im trying to hook up a vehicle diagnostic tool to my computer..
[16:09] <rreyes> hi all... is there a howto for installing openswan on ubuntu?
[16:09] <natewiebe13> on windows it acts just like a jump drive
[16:09] <Dekko> Soreau: Might be interesting to point out that it DOES work if I use Twinview instead of separate X servers for dual monitors.
[16:09] <colbertj> soreau, grawity , thanks for your help desktop is loaded now
[16:09] <colbertj> yay
[16:09] <natewiebe13> its a snapon solus
[16:09] <colbertj> is there a way tho to get my second monitor to be it's native resolution
[16:10] <mintux> I haven't seen this before. ubutnu hanged when I want to remove a directory that is 5 GIG and I have to restart ... it's very auwful
[16:10] <Dekko> colbertj: using nvidia? if so you can set it up.
[16:10] <soreau> Dekko: Definitely a driver issue then
[16:10] <lesshaste> how do I start sshd so I can log into my computer remotely?
[16:10] <need_help> hello i'm trying to do : usermod -md /home/test test1 (directory test don't change to test1 why? Thx Tips: test user has removed and want to change everything to test1 thx =)
[16:10] <colbertj> if i set it as my primary i can get it to be the full resolution but when i set it as my secondary it ends up different
[16:10] <colbertj> yes dekko
[16:10] <colbertj> nvidia
[16:10] <grawity> lesshaste: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:10] <lesshaste> grawity, thanks
[16:11] <rreyes> grawity: how do I install openswan?
[16:11] <Dekko> Colbertj.... start nvidia-settings using terminal 'sudo nvidia-settings' and then select the resolution for your secondary monitor and click to write to your config. :)
[16:11] <grawity> rreyes: I don't know
[16:11] <Dekko> soreau: And no known workaround at all?
[16:11] <frogzoo> !wine
[16:11] <soreau> Dekko: I already made my suggestion of testing a different version of the nvidia driver
[16:12] <mazda01> ikonia, do you know what file firefox uses for it's restore session feature?
[16:12] <tilted> Evolution keeps crashing on me every time a new email comes in.  It's very strange.  Anyone heard of this?
[16:12] <bakie> hi everybody :)
[16:12] <colbertj> dekko: it doesnt list the resolution in there, that is where i was going before
[16:12] <mazda01> sash_, what "{}" do?
[16:12] <ikonia> mazda01: ooh, a good question, no, I'd assume something in .firefox or .mozilla in your home dir
[16:12] <Dekko> soreau: Hmmm the earlier ones has other bugs manifesting themselves as rendering bugs and crap.
[16:12] <natewiebe13> colbertj: there are new drivers 190.18
[16:12] <colbertj> If i change it to become my primary monitor it works fine
[16:12] <grawity> mazda01: sessionstore.js
[16:13] <dix_> How do I get the Visual Boy Advance front end to work?
[16:13] <Dekko> colbertj: Hmmmm that IS strange.
[16:13] <soreau> tilted: Try running evolution from a terminal to see if there's any useful output. Also, you can file a bug for evolution
[16:13] <dix_> Anyone have any experience with it?
[16:13] <soreau> Dekko: I know nvidia sucks
[16:13] <Dekko> I use dual monitor setup on separate X servers just fine. Connected via DVI
[16:13]  * grawity is stuck with nvidia 96.something :(
[16:13] <natewiebe13> colbertj: you should try the new drivers.. they added alot of features
[16:13] <sash_> mazda01:  include files like "lala blub", while without the "", you would just rm "lala"
[16:13] <Dekko> Soreau: Really? I think they're the best graphics chip, so you mean to say ATI is better?
[16:14] <grawity> Dekko: From what I've heard, ALL chips are bad on Linux, nVidia is just least bad.
[16:14] <soreau> Dekko: Since AMD bought ATI and are now releasing specs, by the end of this year, ATI will definitely be the way to go
[16:14] <dew> having problems dual installing ubuntu on to xp michine. it gets to the grub loading stag the when i select "start grub" this error comes up <windows root>/system32/hal.dll and ubuntu doesnt install. Any ideas?
[16:14] <tilted> soreau: Good idea, i'll see if the console tells me anything.
[16:14] <sash_> mazda01:  -exec rm -rf {} \; wouldnt work properly with files that have spaces in therir names
[16:14] <natewiebe13> soreau: since nvidia is releasing linux drivers themselves, that is the way to go
[16:15] <natewiebe13> soreau: nvidia cards are better anyways
[16:15] <colbertj> natewiebe13, the latest driver listed in hardware driver is the nvidia accelerated graphics driver (Version 180)
[16:15] <colbertj> which is the one I am using
[16:15] <soreau> natewiebe13: Since you don't have the first clue what you're talking about, you're wrong
[16:15] <frogzoo> any way to disable gnome's really ugly screen switcher graphic?
[16:15] <grawity> frogzoo: what screen switcher you're talking about?
[16:15] <natewiebe13> colbertj: they are still beta.. but im using them.. they are great
[16:15] <natewiebe13> soreau: nvidia are always better under benchmark tests
[16:15] <natewiebe13> always
[16:16] <colbertj> well where do I find them then natewiebe13
[16:16] <frogzoo> grawity: gnome - not compiz - it shows a greyed out version of the virt desktop
[16:16] <sash_> mazda01:  but i do not understand what you want to do with this find ...
[16:17] <NET||abuse> this is awsome i have to say,, all audio from the desktop piped to the latop which i have headhpones plugged into.. sound server concept wrox!!!
[16:17] <Leoneof> hey
[16:17] <natewiebe13> colbertj: they are on nvidia's site.. but i'll check if there is a ppa
[16:17] <soreau> frogzoo: There is in fact a way to disable it in a gconf key.. though I can't recall which it is right off hand. It's somewhere in gconf-editor
[16:17] <NET||abuse> thinking of ways i can use this in a more inetersting fasion.
[16:17] <mattgyver> Im trying to setup command line email through gmail.  Im getting a "Cannot set trust file" error, could anyone help?
[16:18] <frogzoo> soreau: thanks, will check
[16:18] <natewiebe13> colbertj: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_190.18.html theres the page
[16:18] <soreau> frogzoo: What value have you in gconf-editor > desktop>gnome>background?
[16:18] <mazda01> ikonia, i figured it out. they are /home/user/.mozilla/firefox-3.5/tkr5au3e.default/sessionstore.bak and sessionstore.js. I just both of those in the firefox-3.5 folder and wala!
[16:19] <soreau> frogzoo: color shading type, even
[16:20] <MaT-dg> I have a sony music player connected trough usb. It doesn't mount in media like I would expect but nautilus opens it with this location "gphoto2://[usb:002,007]/". Although the player is full with music, the map is empty. How can I acces my music?
[16:20] <natewiebe13> colbertj: they havent been built yet, but it will show up on this ppa:  https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[16:21] <coz_> MaT-dg,  hav you tried open rythmbox to work with this?
[16:21] <natewiebe13> colbertj: make sure you wait until the 190.18 drivers are out.. 190.16 are on there.. and there is a bug
[16:21] <colbertj> natewiebe13, i am donwloading them now
[16:21] <colbertj> or rather they jst finished
[16:21] <Dekko> soreau: Okay well restarting here.
[16:21] <natewiebe13> colbertj: from nvidia?
[16:21] <colbertj> yea
[16:21] <natewiebe13> colbertj: okay
[16:21] <natewiebe13> you're set
[16:22] <dsdeiz> hello how do i disable bluetooth?
[16:22] <deku> hola gatos
[16:22] <soreau> dsdeiz: Disable in what sense?
[16:22] <MaT-dg> coz_: yes I have, scanned removable media, not showing up
[16:22] <coz_> dsdeiz,  did you go to system /preferences  startup apps first and disable ther
[16:22] <dix_> I ran VBA to play pokemon emrald.gba and nothing happened anyone know how to fix this?
[16:23] <coz_> MaT-dg,  mm  I googled this and apparenlty many are having issues with sony music players
[16:23] <deku> argentina?
[16:23] <coz_> MaT-dg,  do you have an exact model number on that device?
[16:23] <Leoneof> can anybody help me? how to make an icon for PPPOE connection in Desktop?
[16:23] <dsdeiz> soreau: from boot up i guess.. i removed "quiet" from grub menu to see what makes it slow.. "Starting bluetooth" seem to be it
[16:24] <coz_> Leoneof,  right click the desktop    "create launcher"   ?
[16:24] <Leoneof> coz_ , yes, and?
[16:24] <soreau> dsdeiz: There may be an entry in /etc/init.d that you can chmod -x to stop it from being able to execute
[16:24] <fanec75m> hello everybody
[16:25] <dsdeiz> ahh, ok let me look
[16:25] <MaT-dg> coz_: it's a sony NWZ-A829
[16:25] <coz_> Leoneof,   well first type the name in ...then   the command to run the application and then  if you like. choose an icon
[16:25] <dsdeiz> yep, found it there. so i just do that? :S
[16:25] <dsdeiz> soreau: is this common in all linux distros?
[16:25] <Leoneof> coz_ , what is the command i must write?
[16:25] <coz_> Leoneof,  which application is this again?
[16:26] <soreau> dsdeiz: Loosely speaking, yes. So it would be 'sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/bluetooth' and alternatively +x would restore it to the executable state
[16:27] <Leoneof> i want to make an icon for PPPOE connection
[16:27] <coz_> Leoneof,  mm   how do you normally access this?
[16:28] <Leoneof> coz_ i think it is "sudo pppoe config" ?
[16:28] <coz_> Leoneof,   well that would be how to config it yes
[16:28] <Leoneof> <~~~~newbie , coz_
[16:28] <MaT-dg> coz_: according to reviews and people on forums it worked with ubuntu 8.10 (2.6.27 kernel)
[16:28] <coz_> Leoneof,  but not access it    and i may be the wrong person for this particular issue
[16:28] <dsdeiz> everytime rtorrent is hashing it's eating to much resources
[16:29] <coz_> MaT-dg,  I am reading right now that someone suggested installeing Gnomad
[16:29] <Leoneof> ok coz_
[16:29] <coz_> MaT-dg,  I have no idea what that is
[16:29] <person> I'd like to delete an old Ubuntu installation but I'd like to remove proprietary Windows games from Wine with their proper installers so I don't get weird copy protection mechanisms stopping me installing again in the future. Trouble is, I can't get X working again, which is why I'm abandoning the installation in the first place.
[16:29] <coz_> Leoneof,  sorry guy but  if no one else knows here.. try  the #linux channel
[16:29] <coz_> Leoneof,  you may get a few more suggestions on this issue :)
[16:29] <Leoneof> coz_ thank you, i 'm there too
[16:29] <diddy> Where is the manpage for logrotate.conf on Ubuntu? I am getting a no manual entry error for man logrotate.conf
[16:29] <Leoneof> ;-)
[16:30] <bocautrang1077> alo
[16:30] <coz_> MaT-dg,   mm that doesnt look like the proper application hold on
[16:30] <person> X won't work because I installed an nvidia driver from nvidia's shell script installer AND from Ubuntu's repos :-( and they're conflicting.
[16:30] <vigo> person: Make a backup of the system settings that you want, then install fresh.
[16:30] <jrib> diddy: does the manpage for logrotate describe the configuration file?
[16:30] <MaT-dg> coz_: I found gnomad2 in the repo's, description: "Manage a Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox"
[16:31] <soreau> Leoneof: Right click on your desktop and select Create Launcher. Then put the command you want and title but you probably want to use gksudo instead of sudo
[16:31] <coz_> MaT-dg,  mm sounds right
[16:31] <diddy> jrib: I thought so.
[16:31] <jrib> diddy: right, so use that?
[16:31] <person> vigo: I did, but what abotu the proprietary software?
[16:31] <MaT-dg> coz_: I'll try that, u never know :)
[16:31] <a514> Hi ekiga frozen?
[16:31] <coz_> MaT-dg,  I would think also amarok but that is for kde unfortuanately
[16:31] <person> vigo: I've had that stuff refuse to install because I've installed it in some partition I deleted before, I think
[16:31] <Dekko> soreau: I wonder do you think enabling framebuffer would enable my monitor to show console properly under nvidia drivers if I set it to 1024X768 for example?
[16:32] <Dekko> It COULD work.
[16:32] <soreau> Dekko: Worth a shot, I really have no idea
[16:32] <a514> I want to test Ekiga.net but the client freezes up? force quit :(
[16:32] <Dekko> Not @ the actual computer exhibiting the issues right now though.
[16:32] <vigo> person: On a fresh install, you have an option to install that or not. That is why Backups are important and that is also a good point for doing a clean install.
[16:32] <person> vigo: I'm not sure actually. How do games stop you from installing twice? Do the installers send off CD keys over the Internet or something?
[16:33] <VCoolio> hi all; with openbox-session on ubuntu I get sounds on clicking buttons and maximize / minimize; no sound theme is set in sound prefs; how to disable them?
[16:33] <bocautrang1077> hi all
[16:33] <coz_> VCoolio,  is gnome also installed?
[16:33] <sparr> how can I change how KDE apps launch URLs (using kfmclient) when I am not running KDE?
[16:33] <VCoolio> coz_: yes
[16:33] <bocautrang1077> wnat?
[16:33] <a514> Anyone try Zfone pgp voip?
[16:33] <person> vigo: Ah, but won't filthy copy protection get in the way?
[16:33] <coz_> VCoolio,  hold on I believe I know the  issue  let me find my notes :)
[16:33]  * Dekko also wonders if there is a way for me to re-enable the cute penguin in framebuffer on Ubuntu? It was there on Knoppix but not on Ubuntu for some reason...
[16:33] <vigo> person: It will if you want or allow it to.
[16:34] <diddy> jrib: OK, Thx.
[16:34] <JoeKerr> is there an easy way to download and install samba for ubunut?
[16:34] <person> vigo: Perhaps I should copy the .wine directory to a new install and run the uninstallers from there?
[16:34] <MaT-dg> coz_: gnomad2 doesn't work, "No juxeboxes found on USB-bus
[16:34] <soreau> JoeKerr: apt? synaptic?
[16:35] <coz_> MaT-dg,  damn   then I dont know guy sorry   you also could try in #linux
[16:35] <vigo> person: The CD is signed, that is the MD5 hash that is matched with the keyserevers, Now you are thinking on a good path, make backups, then put in what YOU want.
[16:35] <JoeKerr> not sure..im new to linux..i just installed the 9.04
[16:35] <soreau> ! samba | JoeKerr
[16:35] <biczd> hello
[16:35] <coz_> VCoolio,  ok  you are going to have to uninstal  libcanberra-gtk-module
[16:35] <person> Thanks vigo
[16:36] <Edwardo> I am using virtual box with windows 2000 so I can use an external tv tuner, but it isn't seeing the usb device.  I'm new to ubuntu and wonder if I am needing to 'mount' the device somehow in linux first?
[16:36] <vigo> person: I am happy if I helped in any way.
[16:36] <coz_> VCoolio,  but only that one pacakge  and the sounds will stop
[16:36] <kit_> hi, i've just upgraded to 9.10 and can't find the configuration for the gdm face browser/login manager. in 9.04 there was a link in [system][preferences/administration] titles "login"-something. is there a replacement on 9.10 ?
[16:36] <JoeKerr> i downloaded samba and followed the setup instruction but nothing happened
[16:36] <person> vigo: Yeah I think so. Thanks
[16:36] <VCoolio> coz_: ok, let my try that
[16:36] <jrib> !karmic | kit_
[16:37] <a514> JoeKerr: What do you think of Gnome? I right clicked the panel & changed it to transparent
[16:37] <mazda01> hwo would I make it so that when I click on a link in an email it uses firefox-3.5 instead of firefox? would I rename the original firefox executable and create a symlink to the firefox-3.5 executable?
[16:37] <soreau> Edwardo: I'm not sure if vbox allows the guest os to talk directly to hardware
[16:37] <kit_> ah, thanks
[16:37] <bastidrazor> fumblnoob, ask in channel, if i know the answer i'll respond
[16:37] <OttifantSir> Edwardo: If Ubuntu can't use the device, a Virtual Machine can't use it. It's restricted to the hardware the Host OS can supply.
[16:37] <Borleand> helllo...
[16:37] <coz_> VCoolio,  you will most likely have to log off and back on or restart x  properly with ctrl+alt+F1    log in  then    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[16:37] <JoeKerr> does samba comes with a zip file already to install or do i have to compile it first
[16:37] <mzz> OttifantSir: yes and no
[16:38] <jrib> !software > JoeKerr
[16:38] <jrib> JoeKerr: Use synaptic
[16:38] <mzz> OttifantSir: the non-free version of vbox can hand off usb devices from the host to the guest. I don't know about pci devices.
[16:38] <JoeKerr> got it thnks
[16:38] <mzz> Edwardo: which version of virtualbox is this?
[16:39] <a514> JoeKerr: You can use the top panel /system/administration/synaptic to get samba deb
[16:39] <soreau> mzz: Where do you get the nonfree version?
[16:39] <Borleand> hi guests...
[16:39] <mzz> soreau: from www.virtualbox.org probably
[16:39] <xlq> I've installed manpages-posix-dev and glibc-doc but I still don't have the open(2) manpage - where's it gone?
[16:39] <mzz> soreau: (I think I've seen debs there)
[16:39] <jrib> xlq: how about manpages-dev?
[16:39] <soreau> mzz: Nice. Thanks for the info ;)
[16:39] <Edwardo> Sorry- disconnected
[16:39] <Edwardo> I'm checking now, mzz
[16:39] <Borleand> i've some questions...
[16:40] <Edwardo> mzz: 2.1.4
[16:40] <msafi> Is there a channel on Freenode to discuss open office?
[16:40] <mzz> soreau: iirc xen lets you do something similar with pci devices, but I could be wrong.
[16:40] <lstarnes> msafi: #openoffice.org
[16:40] <Trijntje> !ask|borleand
[16:40] <mzz> Edwardo: installed how? You need the closed version of vbox for this feature
[16:40] <soreau> mzz: That would be crazy awesome
[16:40] <xlq> jrib: that's installed too
[16:40] <msafi> lstarnes, ktnx.
[16:40] <Edwardo> I used Ubuntu's package manager
[16:40] <xlq> as a dependency of manpages-posix-dev
[16:40] <mzz> soreau: well, the obvious restriction is only one os (either host or guest) gets to use the device at a time
[16:40] <crankharder> is anyone familiar with something that will allow "smart" maximing, the way OSX maximizes windows?
[16:40] <coz_> VCoolio, did it work?
[16:41] <crankharder> *maximizing
[16:41] <soreau> mzz: Of course, but allowing the guest to use the device directly opens many doors
[16:41] <mzz> Edwardo: you probably need to grab the debs or repo off virtualbox.org by hand. The "open source edition" version in ubuntu doesn't have the feature you're after. See http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[16:41] <fanec75m> hello again
[16:41] <crazysoul> please could someone help me? i've been at this problem for 2 days now
[16:41] <jrib> xlq: how are you trying to open it?
[16:41] <fanec75m> i ve succed to conect via pidgin
[16:42] <OttifantSir> crankharder: I don't know how OSX maximizes, but you might check out "MAXIMUMIZE" in Compiz.
[16:42] <ikonia> crazysoul: try it without the real time kernel
[16:42] <fanec75m> very very good os this ubuntu
[16:42] <ikonia> crazysoul: try to narrow it down
[16:42] <mzz> crazysoul: I'd start by checking if a non-rt kernel does work reliably
[16:42] <diddy> Which directories would you include into your backup besides /home ?
[16:42] <ikonia> diddy: that's totally up to you and your needs
[16:42] <jrib> xlq: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/manpages-dev/filelist
[16:42] <crazysoul> non-rt kernel starts up, but sometimes crashed out of nothing
[16:42] <Borleand> i've installed ubuntu 9.04,, can i install pyqt4 package from kubuntu 9.04 live cd??
[16:43] <ikonia> crazysoul: define crash
[16:43] <ikonia> Borleand: if you want
[16:43] <crazysoul> reboots
[16:43] <mzz> crazysoul: how crashed is crashed? Can you still ssh in, for example?
[16:43] <ikonia> crazysoul: it reboots on it's own ? that sounds like a hardware error
[16:43] <VCoolio> coz_: my system crashed, but the issue is solved :) thx
[16:43] <crazysoul> no, the pc just restarts
[16:43] <diddy> ikonia, what would make sense to be be included? /etc ?
[16:43] <coz_> VCoolio,  very cool :)
[16:43] <ikonia> diddy: depends on y our needs
[16:43] <mzz> crazysoul: different linux distro or even different os does work reliably? Spontaneous reboots I'm tempted to blame on hardware
[16:43] <coz_> VCoolio,  well the sound stopping is very cool not the crash lol
[16:43] <crazysoul> what kind of hardware could make this happens?
[16:43] <coz_> VCoolio,  what crashed the system?
[16:43] <xlq> jrib: ok, well I have /usr/share/man/man3/fopen.3{,posix}.gz ... but man won't read it
[16:43] <ikonia> crazysoul: any error with any hardware
[16:44] <crazysoul> windowsxp no problems whatsoever
[16:44] <ikonia> crazysoul: that doesn't mean it's not a hardware problem
[16:44] <mzz> crazysoul: dodgy or underpowered power supply would be my most obvious guess
[16:44] <xlq> jrib: I've just found out that the KDE packages have overridden my MANPATH :\
[16:44] <jrib> xlq: oh
[16:44] <mzz> crazysoul: I'd stress it a bit under a different ose
[16:44] <xlq> jrib: thanks :)
[16:44] <mzz> os, even
[16:44] <crazysoul> it's a 430 corsair PSU
[16:44] <dew> im having trouble installing ubuntu/dual boot xp. gets to the start grub option then if i select start grub this error pops up <windows>system32 any ideas?
[16:44] <ikonia> crazysoul: that means nothing in reality
[16:45] <ikonia> dew: get the full error
[16:45] <blackxored> hello people, what's the easiest way to modify a software appliance base iso made from ubuntu server 8.04.2?
[16:45] <fanec75m> try to install along xp
[16:45] <crazysoul> i can stress it for hours and hours in XP without problems
[16:45] <fanec75m> for me goes fine
[16:45] <ikonia> blackxored: contact the person who made it
[16:45] <ikonia> blackxored: that's offtopic for this channel
[16:45] <mzz> crazysoul: (dodgy power supplies can fail quite weirdly. I've had one consistently trigger a reboot when installing a particular app in windows, for example)
[16:45] <ikonia> crazysoul: that doesn't mean anything
[16:45] <blackxored> ikonia, don't troll at me , it's turnkey linux appliances
[16:46] <mzz> crazysoul: hmm. Tried anything else non-windows? Tried with everything nonessential disconnected?
[16:46] <ikonia> blackxored: I'm not trolling you, it's offtopic for this channel
[16:46] <ikonia> blackxored: best to ask the person who made the CD - we don't support 3rd party CD's
[16:46] <crazysoul> i disconnected all equipment, except the graphics card and Creative Audigy
[16:46] <ikonia> crazysoul: look up a livecd called "Stress Linux" see if that works or how hard you can stress it
[16:46] <Edwardo> mzz: I'm downloading the source now and reading the build instructions- thanks for the help
[16:46] <blackxored> ikonia, ok then, sorry jeos iso not available anymore
[16:46] <dew> ikonia Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: Windows root>/system32/hal.dll. please re-install a copy of the above file"
[16:47] <mzz> crazysoul: I'd expect most linux kernel
[16:47] <ikonia> blackxored: no need to apologies
[16:47] <mzz> err
[16:47] <mzz> crazysoul: I'd expect most linux kernel-level issues to panic, not spontaneously reboot, which is why I'm focusing on some dodgy hardware combo
[16:47] <blackxored> ikonia, see you around then
[16:47] <ikonia> dew: that's commonly caused when your windows disk is not stable / clean b efore resizing
[16:47] <crazysoul> i see mzz
[16:47] <ikonia> mzz: I'm in agreement
[16:47] <dew> ikonia i ran chkdsk /r
[16:48] <mzz> crazysoul: (although it's possible ubuntu's configured to reboot on panic by default. I'm still pretty new to ubuntu, so someone might want to check me on this :)
[16:48] <ikonia> dew: thats the most common cause, but not the only
[16:48] <ikonia> dew: you need to repair your windows install
[16:48] <crazysoul> so i will download this stress linux, to test the hardware, i'll report later ;)
[16:48] <ikonia> mzz: nah, it should hang/panic
[16:49] <crazysoul> sometimes it hangs to
[16:49] <dew> ikonia windows is working but ubuntu doesnt install
[16:49] <ikonia> dew: what ? you just siad you can't boot windows as it errors
[16:49] <crazysoul> then nothing responds, and capslock and scrolllock keep flashing
[16:49] <ikonia> crazysoul: again that sounds like a hardware issue,
[16:49] <ikonia> crazysoul: a OS crash would put stuff on screen normally
[16:49] <VCoolio> coz_: I don't know; I could check the syslog I guess, but I'm up and running again so who cares :)
[16:49] <edbian> crazysoul: Sounds like bad ram to me.
[16:50] <coz_> VCoolio,  ok   well for your own info  I would check it and try to duplicate it  so it may be able to be fixed
[16:50] <crazysoul> i performed the Memorycheck yesterday with no faults
[16:50] <nowotny> hello... anyone knows any "standard" editor with diff support...?
[16:50] <dew> ikonia windows boots but the ubuntu install doesnt start when i select "start grub" tis error appears Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: Windows root>/system32/hal.dll. please re-install a copy of the above file"
[16:50] <ikonia> dew: there is no such option as "start grub"
[16:50] <VCoolio> coz_: ok, can you see on what time I 'left' this channel?
[16:50] <BimmeR> anybody here that has the Logitech G9 mouse sidebuttons working?
[16:51] <klenz> hey i have a dell vostro 200 desktop and when i use the dell reinstall cd and boot into interactive install it tells me that my monitor is out of range is there a fix for this?
[16:51] <dew> ikonia when you dual boot xp + ubuntu with out cd you have dl a boot loader
[16:51] <ikonia> dew: yes, that is grub
[16:51] <edbian> crazysoul: Then I suggest you work your war around the system.  Unplug HDD, restart, replug HDD, inplug whatever is in PCI slot1, test, replug PCI1, unplug PCI2, etc etc
[16:51] <ikonia> dew: so there is no option that says "start grub"
[16:51] <coz_> VCoolio,   darn I dont have time stanps on  sorry
[16:51] <dew> ikonia yea there is
[16:51] <ikonia> dew: no there is not
[16:51] <Houba1986> hey, i have a question... i have a problem with my firefox browser... it was working fine, but since yesterday, some sites, such as gmail, facebook, future shop, when i go to log in, it doesn't work... how do i fix this? or what could be the problem?
[16:51] <coz_> VCoolio,  let me scroll back hold on
[16:51] <dew> ikonia when i select it it says Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: Windows root>/system32/hal.dll. please re-install a copy of the above file"
[16:52] <ikonia> dew: that is selecting windows from the grub menu
[16:52] <ikonia> dew: there is no such option as "start grub"
[16:52] <Trijntje> klenz: what are you trying to do on your PC?
[16:52] <edbian> Houba1986: Be more specific.  The page just doesn't load?
[16:52] <tank1> Hello.  For Ubuntu development mentorship, how do I become a mentoree?
[16:52] <klenz> Trijntje: install ubuntu
[16:52] <Trijntje> klenz: and what is the exact error you get?
[16:52] <ikonia> tank1: check out the groups on launchpad, that's a good place to start, also check motu on the wiki ubuntu site
[16:53] <tank1> Thanks
[16:53] <klenz> Trijntje: i select interactive install on the dell cd and my monitor has  a blinking blue box and says its out of range
[16:53]  * Samm awaits questions that he can answer.
[16:53] <coz_> VCoolio,  no I dont have a time  stamp here sorry
[16:53] <ikonia> Samm: please don't use un-needed /me commands
[16:54] <VCoolio> coz_: np I'll figure it out
[16:54] <Houba1986> edbian: yeah, like, i click login, and nothing happens, it says its loading but nothing loads, and yahoo mail as well
[16:54] <coz_> VCoolio,  ok cool :)
[16:54] <klenz> trijnte: even is i do an automatic install when ubuntu boots i get the same thing
[16:54] <klenz> if*
[16:54] <BimmeR> Samm: well help me with my side mousebuttons then :)
[16:54] <Trijntje> klenz: hmm, i'm not sure what could cause that, sorry. But there were some other known issues with ubuntu on a dell vostro 200
[16:54] <Samm> BimmeR: what mouse is it?
[16:54] <BimmeR> samm Logitech G9
[16:54] <edbian> Houba1986: Perhaps it is trying to redirect the page and firefox won't let it.  Does a drop down box appear that has an "allow" button on the far right?
[16:55] <Samm> BimmeR: hold on
[16:55] <Houba1986> edbian: no, it doesnt
[16:55] <edbian> Houba1986: Do you have any add-ons in firefox?
[16:55] <Cryq8K> cookies?
[16:57] <Samm> BimmeR: Run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" without quotes in the terminal, and pastebin.ubuntu.com what you get, send me a link.
[16:57] <batisT> what was the command to list all processes?
[16:57] <ackbahr> I/O errors (quite a vague issue!) on a memory card.... Can someone help me?
[16:57] <BimmeR> samm pastebin.ubuntu.com?
 what was the command to list all processes? << ps -Af
[16:57] <edbian> batisT: ps ;)
[16:57] <batisT> ty arudil and edbian
[16:57] <edbian> batisT: man ps to get more info on how it works :)
[16:58] <klenz> does anyone know how i can fix a monior out of range error?
[16:58] <Samm> BimmeR: yes, goto pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste what you get as your result, it is too long for the IRC. send me the link.
[16:59] <BimmeR> samm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/227743/
[16:59] <Samm> BimmeR:  Thanks, hold on.
[17:01] <Whitor> Hi. Each time I boot, right after GRUB, I get an error saying  video Mode 31f unavailable. Please choose from the following or wait 30 seconds.... To which I have to choose a video res from a list before I can continue ... Where is this 31f specified? So I can change it to a correct value.
[17:01] <Samm> BimmeR: Your mouse should be compatible with this (http://morecode.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/logitech-g9-on-linux/) tutorial.
[17:02] <frogzoo> Whitor: do you have a vga= option in menu.lst?
[17:02] <bastidrazor> Whitor, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:02] <BimmeR> samm: mmm I have edited my xorg.conf... but..... no result..... I'll have a go again
[17:02] <Samm> BimmeR: You'll need a Windows machine nearby to to the first part with though.
[17:02] <Bob_Dole> How do you re-enable ctrl+alt-backspace again?
[17:02] <currotarra> hay alguien ahí?
[17:02] <BimmeR> samm: this is a combined machine, so reboot would do that trick
[17:03] <Samm> BimmeR: good.
[17:03] <Whitor> frogzoo, No I don't have any line with vga=
[17:03] <crazysoul> ikonia: i have burned this "stress linux" but when i boot from it, after a few screens of text it ends wit "kernel panic - no syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[17:03] <currotarra> Lo siento no sé inglés
[17:03] <bening> what is ubuntu?
[17:03] <Samm> BimmeR: Follow the tutorial, except instead of inplugging from windows and into linux machine, just reboot.
[17:03] <ikonia> bening: a linux distribution
[17:03] <Whitor> bastidrazor, I don't see where to specify that in that file
[17:03] <ikonia> !ubuntu > bening
[17:03] <ikonia> crazysoul: interesting,
[17:03] <BimmeR> samm: thanks, will keep you updated :)
[17:04] <crazysoul> ikonia: what could that mean?
[17:04] <ikonia> crazysoul: well, it depends what's not syncing, that's normally a complain about disk devices, but there are other options
[17:04] <bastidrazor> Whitor, e.g.defoptions=vga=791 .. the line below that you'll need to specify a valid resolution
[17:04] <ikonia> crazysoul: can you get a few lines above that error ?
[17:04] <Samm> BimmeR: Read EDIT 2: before you start ;) No Problem
[17:04] <koltroll> Hey guys. I'm struggeling to death trying to create a bootable usb stick. Anyone know how to check if my stick have that U3-thingy? It's a zap Slider 8GB
[17:04] <Trijntje> !spanish|currotarra
[17:04] <Samm> BimmeR: err, Update 2.
[17:05] <koltroll> Everything 'seems' to work, tho I can't boot from it.
[17:05] <koltroll> just tells me "insert bootable device.."
[17:05] <crazysoul> ikonia: can we maybe talk in private about this, difficult to find all the messages between everyone elses talk
[17:05] <Whitor> bastidrazor, Well look at that! it was hiding. thanks
[17:05] <zaza> Why did canonical shutdown gobuntu while ubuntu isn't considered fully free OS?
[17:05] <bening> i think i use ubuntu, this is my brother computer
[17:05] <ikonia> crazysoul: yeah, hang on
[17:05] <om26er> how to start live cd in read and write mode
[17:05] <bastidrazor> Whitor, good luck
[17:05] <BimmeR> samm: reading the thing now and trying to edit my xorg on the fly :)
[17:05] <ikonia> bening: your using ubuntu now by the looks of it
[17:05] <Samm> BimmeR: Good
[17:06] <bening> weird but fun
[17:06] <ikonia> om26er: you can't - a cd is a read only device
[17:07] <om26er> ikonia actually I am running from a usb
[17:07] <ikonia> om26er: then that's not starting a cd in read/write mode
[17:07] <kit_> lol
[17:07] <deadguy> HELLO
[17:07] <bening> why i can't connect to other server?
[17:07] <bening> such dalnet?
[17:07] <deadguy> can I ask something about nisis g6 :P
[17:08] <grawity> bening: why can't you?
[17:08] <Trijntje> !ask|deadguy
[17:08] <bening> don't know
[17:08] <dew> having problems dual booting xp + ubuntu.
[17:08] <zaza> Anyone can explain why did canonical shutdown gobuntu while ubuntu isn't considered fully free OS?
[17:08] <ikonia> zaza: ubuntu is fully free
[17:08] <deadguy> I dont have drivers for nisis g6.Now I don't know how to run it ?
[17:08] <bening> grawity help
[17:08] <ikonia> zaza: mail canonical to ask
[17:08] <BimmeR> samm error on the update2 part...
[17:08] <Whitor> how is ubuntu not free?
[17:09] <Bob_Dole> Ubuntu includes restricted modules, and various restricted items
[17:09] <Samm> BimmeR:  What? syntax or what?
[17:09] <bening> Whitor: free
[17:09] <Bob_Dole> It is free as in beer, but not as in speech.. it's very close to it, however
[17:09] <zaza> ikonia But I think Ubuntu uses property software and modules in it kernel, right?
[17:09] <ikonia> they are the "restricted-modules" package
[17:09] <ikonia> they are installed by the users choice
[17:10] <bening> free but complete
[17:10] <TwoToneSpirit> zaza: No, not in the kernel.  The default installation is 100% free, I believe.
[17:10]  * Whitor doesn't care that his video drivers are not open source... 
[17:10] <Hilikus> can i remove firefox-3.0 if i have firefox-3.5?
[17:10] <Bob_Dole> Whitor, You may not, some of us do.
[17:10] <TwoToneSpirit> Hilikus: yep.
[17:10] <bening> ubuntu is free, but why some people still use non-free OS?
[17:10]  * Whitor would rather have drivers coded by the same people that make the hardware ... Let them keep their internal specs
[17:10] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:10] <edbian> Hilikus: "sudo apt-get remove firefox"  should do it.  Firefox 3.5 is a different package name.
[17:10] <ikonia> bening: ask them - thats nothing to do with this channel
[17:11] <Hilikus> TwoToneSpirit: no matter that it takes down with it ubufox and a bunch od other things
[17:11] <zaza> Sorry pici, thanks guys.
[17:11] <bening> who r them?
[17:11] <Bob_Dole> That's why you can use the proprietary drivers, and anyone else can use the currently incomplete opensource drivers...(I use the proprietary ones, but I get bugs from them I don't like..and it's up to ATI to fix it or not..I don't like that)
[17:11] <TwoToneSpirit> Hilikis: Well, if you are using 3.5, you don't get the branding and stuff anyway.  Obviously, if you remove 3.0, you'll have to use 3.5.
[17:11] <koltroll> no one that have any idea on what to do to get the usb stick to boot? ;/
[17:11] <superdaniel49> hey anyone here know how to put a program launcher on th Xfce desktop?
[17:11] <bening> the non-free OS user, where are you?
[17:12] <superdaniel49> yes
[17:12] <Hilikus> TwoToneSpirit: i'm more concerned with menu items and stuff, i don't want to manually have to configure them
[17:12] <coz_> koltroll,  I dont know  sorry   are you sure your mother board supports bootable usb?
[17:12] <deadguy> :)(
[17:12] <koltroll> coz_, yes. It's a asus 1000he and other people have succeeding in this
[17:12] <Bob_Dole> Also, folks, don't confuse the 2 definitions of free. Just because you don't have to pay for something doesn't mean it is Free.
[17:12] <koltroll> I HOPE that it's all -me- doing something stupied. that would be the best.
[17:13] <coz_> koltroll,  mm   are you sure that setting is set in the bios of the motherboard?
[17:13] <Hilikus> theer you go, the menu items went dead
[17:13] <Hilikus> :S
[17:13] <koltroll> coz_, yes. in bios I can see my usb stick.
[17:13] <edbian> superdaniel49: Can you right click and "add lanucher" ??
[17:13] <koltroll> coz_, and I've changed the boot order.
[17:13] <koltroll> coz_, I can also press ESC upon start to get a "boot from"-menu. I get the same result from there as well.
[17:14] <TwoToneSpirit> Hilikus: Menu items?  Like the launcher on the panel?
[17:14] <warriorforgod> I accidently hit ctrl+alt+break and now my screen is super zoomed in.  Anyone know who to fix this?
[17:14] <superdaniel49> where do i right click at?
[17:14] <Hilikus> TwoToneSpirit: yes, and it's icon more importantly, since the new FF for some reason has a non-standard icon
[17:15] <arleslie> koltroll, Are you sure that the USB stick is bootable and the partition that your wanting to boot from has the boot flag?
[17:15] <coz_> koltroll,  not sure then it could be several issues   ...bad flash drive    bad usb port  setting in bios not working
[17:15] <coz_> koltroll,   I am not sure how to troubleshott that issue
[17:15] <coz_> troubleshoot
[17:15] <koltroll> arleslie, I'm sure the partition I want to boot from (only got one) has the boot flag.
[17:15] <bastidrazor> warriorforgod, if you don't get an answer here #compiz may be a good place to look.
[17:16] <koltroll> arleslie, and the usb stick -should- be bootable since I've used unetbootin without any problem.
[17:16] <deadguy> who knows about nisis g6
[17:16] <ikonia> deadguy: in what respect ?
[17:16] <arleslie> koltroll, then thats odd, I don't know
[17:16] <koltroll> arleslie, so the only thing I'm really considering atm is if the usb stick has that U3 thing
[17:16] <TwoToneSpirit> Hilikus:  Yeah, there is no "Firefox-3.5" branding for any release of the Shiretoko branch, including the final.  But it is really that big a deal?  You can just right-click the launcher in the applications menu and add it to the panel.
[17:16] <Zajjko1> I'm having some trouble with DNS-forwarding from my router to my laptop via wireless networking. I can ping private IPs but not public ones. However wired networking through the same router works like a charm
[17:16] <dew> any1 know much obout dual boot xp + ubuntu (xp installed first)
[17:16] <ikonia> deadguy: yes
[17:16] <ikonia> deadguy: sorry
[17:16] <ikonia> dew: yes
[17:16] <Hilikus> TwoToneSpirit: i already did that, the problem is the logo
[17:17] <superdaniel49> i know the answer to that dew
[17:17] <Zajjko1> As far as I've understood, I'm supposed to add my ISPs dns:s to resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces
[17:17] <ikonia> dew: you need to get the information correctly for someone to help
[17:17] <Zajjko1> Output from interfaces and resolv.conf are as follows
[17:17] <superdaniel49> you have to start the computer in windows and login
[17:17] <ikonia> Zajjko1: use a pastebin
[17:17] <dew> ikonia lol i have. It says "start grub" at my boot screen
[17:18] <dassouki> i'm not sure why my cam worked, then stopped working after updagint to 9.04
[17:18] <superdaniel49> after that you put the ubuntu cd in the cd-rom drive and make sure it autoplays
[17:18] <Zajjko1> ikonia: heh, yeah I'm about to. That's why I'm delaying : )
[17:18] <ikonia> Zajjko1: just checking, thank you
[17:18] <grawity> superdaniel49: um, no.
[17:19] <Hilikus> thanks guys
[17:19] <superdaniel49> hey dew if it starts with the grub loader then choose windows and then login to the windows account
[17:20] <dew> superdaniel149 yea im in windows now
[17:21] <Zajjko1> output from interfaces and resolv.conf
[17:21] <Zajjko1> http://pastebin.ca/1504484
[17:21] <superdaniel49> r u logged in the windows account that has administrative rights?
[17:21] <dew> superdaniel149 yes
[17:21] <grawity> superdaniel49: Dude, you don't install Ubuntu from Windows.
[17:22] <Zajjko1> I tried adding both eth0 and wlan0 to interfaces, but that just made me end up with networking not managed and reset my keyboard layout to US-english : )
[17:22] <dew> grawity you can
[17:22] <ikonia> grawity: I'm more interested in how he boots windows when grub won't load
[17:22] <grawity> dew: you can, yes, but this is only recommended as the last choice.
[17:22] <grawity> ikonia: Isn't he in Windows already?
[17:23] <ikonia> grawity: this is the part I don't understand, he can boot windows, but when he boots grub it gives a windows error ??
[17:23] <dew> ikonia grub loads with two options "windows xp pro" and "start grub"
[17:23] <ikonia> grawity: non of it makes sense
[17:23] <MateHun> hi
[17:23] <ikonia> dew: is this a wubi install ?
[17:23] <pino> Hallo. Ich moechte pulseaudio uebers netzwerk verfuegbar machen. welche module muss ich dazu aktivieren? Dazu sei noch gesagt: Ich betreibe das ganze ohne gui.
[17:23] <thiebaude> !de
[17:23] <ikonia> !de > pino
[17:24] <pino> sorry. wrong chan
[17:24] <arleslie> Is there a way I can assign the Windows Key a short cut?
[17:24] <dew> ikonia no
[17:24] <edbian> arleslie: Are you using compiz?
[17:24] <ikonia> dew: in that case there is no such option in a grub menu as "start grub" from an ubuntu install
[17:24] <superdaniel49> put the cd in the cd-rom drive and let it load the ubuntu wubi
[17:24] <thiebaude> dew, you used the live cd?
[17:24] <ikonia> dew: you must not be using ubuntu, or you have manually edited your menu.lst file
[17:24] <superdaniel49> dew r u still there?
[17:24] <arleslie> edbian, I'm using Ubuntu...
[17:25] <dew> yea
[17:25] <edbian> arleslie: :)  gnome or kde?
[17:25] <ikonia> dew: yes what ?
[17:25] <arleslie> edbian, gnome
[17:25] <ikonia> !who | dew
[17:25] <thiebaude> dew, and you want to dual boot?
[17:25] <superdaniel49> dew r u still there
[17:26] <diddy> Is Ubuntu screwing up? Shouldn't variables only be set in .bash_profile? My HISTCONTROL, etc vars are set in .bashrc
[17:26] <dew> superdaniel149 yea
[17:26] <Zajjko1> How do I set up networking in 9.04 so that IP is assigned via DHCP but DNS:s are set up manually?
[17:26] <ikonia> diddy: check your .bash_profile, it sources .bashrc
[17:26] <dew> thiebaude no cd install and yea dual boot
[17:26] <ikonia> Zajjko1: dhclient.conf
[17:26] <edbian> arleslie: Do you know where/what gconf-editor is?
[17:26] <scott__> hi, my themes arent showing, in fact, the whole frame around each window doesn't show. the only way i can manipulate windows in jaunty now is from the taskbar
[17:26] <diddy> ikonia, yes. That is true. So what?
[17:26] <arleslie> edbian, no, i do not
[17:26] <ikonia> diddy: so that's why it's set in the two files
[17:26] <ikonia> diddy: set "via" the two files I mean
[17:27] <Cube> how can i keep ubuntu from getting the "latest" firefox update (being 3.0.12 for ubuntu)?? i already got the 3.5.1 version
[17:27] <diddy> ikonia, vars should only be set in bash_profile
[17:27] <edbian> arleslie: In a terminal run : "gconf-editor"
[17:27] <ikonia> diddy: says who ?
[17:27] <ikonia> diddy: does it matter ?
[17:27] <diddy> Says the standard.
[17:27] <ikonia> diddy: what standard ?
[17:27] <grawity> diddy: What standard?
[17:27] <arleslie> edbian, ok
[17:27] <diddy> Each tutorial that I read.
[17:27] <Eier> HI
[17:27] <ikonia> diddy: that's just someones perosnal opinion
[17:27] <diddy> functions and aliases go into .bashrc
[17:28] <ikonia> diddy: FHS does not say that, neither does LSB
[17:28] <dew> ikonia cheak out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 if you have the time
[17:28] <Eier> how is the support for realtek audio- and wireless drivers ?
[17:28] <scott__> how do i get window frames back on all my windows? i've tried theme manager and i dont see anything to help
[17:28] <diddy> vars go into /etc/profile and bash_profile
[17:28] <ikonia> diddy: says who ? what official standard ?
[17:28] <edbian> arleslie: Did it open??
[17:28] <arleslie> edbian, yes
[17:28] <Zajjko1> ikonia: umm, should I be concerned if my dhclient.conf is empty? : )
[17:28] <ikonia> Zajjko1: nah, just probably picking up the defaults
[17:28] <superdaniel49> is the ubuntu menu loaded in windows from the cd drive?
[17:28] <superdaniel49> dew is the ubuntu menu loaded in windows?
[17:29] <Cube> how can i keep ubuntu from getting the "latest" firefox update (being 3.0.12 for ubuntu)?? i already got the 3.5.1 version
[17:29] <Eier> how is the support for realtek audio- and wireless drivers ?
[17:29] <diddy> ikonia, but that it is stupid if I can  put vars everywhere I want. It is hard to maintain.
[17:29] <edbian> arleslie: Go to Apps -> Metacity -> Keybinding Commands
[17:29] <ikonia> diddy: they are not anywhere - they are in your bash configuration files
[17:29] <jaj23> hey all, can anyone think of a question that filters out technically-able/geeky computer users from a more general computer user?
[17:29] <ikonia> !offtopic | jaj23
[17:29] <jaj23> sure
[17:29] <dew> superdaniel149 um im not useing a cd or removable midia
[17:29] <arleslie> edbian, ok
[17:29] <edbian> arleslie: gconf-edtior BTW is sort of like the registry for windows but far less convoluted and easy to edit by hand with gconf-edtior :)
[17:29] <Zajjko1> ikonia: Weird thing is that I'm currently on wired connection from the same laptop. So as far as wired networking goes it seems to use the routers dns.
[17:30] <Eier> how is the support for realtek audio- and wireless drivers ? please answear
[17:30] <diddy> I was looking into /etc/profile and .bash_profile and couldn't figure out why my HISTCONTROL was set to ignoreboth.
[17:30] <arleslie> edbian, which one is the windows key
[17:30] <edbian> arleslie: What do you have in there?  "run_command_1" ?
[17:30] <ikonia> Zajjko1: boot wirless, check out resolv.conf, boot wired check out resolv.conf - note teh differences
[17:30] <superdaniel49> dew once the wubi menu has loaded, click on "install inside windows"
[17:30] <arleslie> edbian, "command_1" "command_2" etc...
[17:31] <edbian> arleslie: What do you want the windows key to launch?
[17:31] <diddy> ikonia, yes but there are many bash config file, history, bashrc, inputrc, bash_login, bash_logout, environment
[17:31] <ikonia> diddy: set it how you want/like it
[17:31] <Cube> how can i keep ubuntu from getting the "latest" firefox update (being 3.0.12 for ubuntu)?? i already got the 3.5.1 version
[17:31] <diddy> ikonia, there should be some king of system
[17:31] <Zajjko1> ikonia: will do! Thanks (Didn't think as far as checking if resolv.conf was auto-configured on boot)
[17:31] <grawity> diddy: inputrc is for readline, not bash
[17:31] <ikonia> diddy: there isn't
[17:31] <grawity> diddy: history is not a config file
[17:31] <ikonia> diddy: history and inputrc are not bash files
[17:31] <dew> superdanel149 here is the how to i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[17:31] <ikonia> grawity: too quick
[17:31] <diddy> :(
[17:31] <arleslie> edbian, I would like it to launch terminal
[17:31] <superdaniel49> what r  u using to install ubuntu, a download?
[17:31] <bening> ie, can i run it on ubuntu?
[17:31] <edbian> arleslie: PM me please.  It's getting noisy in here :)
[17:31] <Padhu_1> Is nayone tell me the good tool for samba configuration?
[17:31] <diddy> So I should put SHELLVARS into bashrc then?
[17:32] <grawity> Padhu_1: system-config-samba?
[17:32] <diddy> I don't want them all over the place.
[17:32] <Eier> How is the support for realtek drivers
[17:32] <Eier> ?
[17:32] <Eier> audio and wireless
[17:32] <dew> superdaniel i am using this how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[17:32] <ikonia> dew: that information is over 4 years old, not the best to use for a current version
[17:32] <dew> ikonia i c
[17:32] <superdaniel49> hold on let me go to the ubuntu forum you showed me.
[17:32] <bening> I have tried wine, it's not work
[17:33] <grawity> dew: you could just boot from the Ubuntu CD and choose "Install Ubuntu"... the latest version can do everything automatically.
[17:33] <bening> well. i'll use firefox anyway
[17:33] <Inf_lappy_> is there any chance that firefox is ever going to get fixed such that an update doesn't mean that it loses all your tabs (yes, i have "show my windows and tabs from last time" enabled in preferences. firefox just doesn't care about that after an update and only shows your home page). silent data loss with no warning == NOT FUN.
[17:33] <keika> Can i access to system tray with keyboard without mouse emulation?
[17:34] <dew> grawity um am not using a cd
[17:34] <ikonia> dew: what are you using
[17:34] <Frank83> Greetings. Is there a way to disable IPV6 on Ubu9.04 Kernel  2.6.28-13-generic? I've searched about the net and heard there is some kind of a bug?
[17:34] <grawity> Frank83: What kind of bug?
[17:34] <lstarnes> Frank83: what bug?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !nick
[17:34] <Eier> anyone please !
[17:34] <Cube> how can i keep ubuntu from getting the "latest" firefox update (being 3.0.12 for ubuntu)?? i already got the 3.5.1 version
[17:34] <Eier> realtek drivers is it good support
[17:35] <Eier> in ubutnu ?
[17:35] <lstarnes> Cube: uninstall 3.0.12
[17:35] <dew> ikonia um that how to. i should just do a wubi install hey?
[17:35] <grawity> Frank83: Why do you want to disable IPv6?
[17:35] <Frank83> I've read in forums that there's a bug that won't let you disable IPV6, that the only way was to recompile the kernel, or something.
[17:35] <Eier> FUCK
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Cube: uninstall 3.0.11
[17:35] <ikonia> dew: what are you currently using to inistall
[17:35] <eoeas> Inf_lappy_: no idea, try ffox 3.5, or just used bookmarks for the time being :-D
[17:35] <diddy> Where is all the env stuff coming from? I can not find this info in any bash config file in my home dir or under /etc. Example: GDMSESSION=default
[17:35] <Cube> lstarnes: oh ok. so the ubuntuzilla script just installed another firefox on my computer? so now i have 3.5 and 3.0, and 3.0 wants to update?
[17:35] <dew> ikonia downloaded files
[17:35] <PolitikerNEU> Inf_lappy_: I think, if you xkill your firefox, it doesn't lose the tabs on update but I don't know exactly
[17:35] <ikonia> dew: downloading what files?
[17:35] <Frank83> Grawity: My ISP gets funny with IPV6, I suffer random disconnects (I have RTL8187 Wireless)
[17:35] <grawity> diddy: This is set by gdm, when it starts GNOME after login.
[17:35] <lstarnes> Cube: is it being updated through the update manager?
[17:36] <Cube> lstarnes: yeah
[17:36] <Inf_lappy_> firefox 3.5... there's a PPA for that, right?
[17:36] <need_help> wht difference between i686 and i386? thx
[17:36] <lstarnes> Cube: then that's a result of the old firefox package not being uninstalled
[17:36] <diddy> grawity, yes but isn't it stored anywhere in a file?
[17:36] <lstarnes> Inf_lappy_: yes
[17:36] <grawity> diddy: No.
[17:36] <Cube> lstarnes: k. how can i get rid of 3.0?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Cube: 3.5 is a seperate app so you will need to uninstall the other one if you no longer need it
[17:36] <lstarnes> need_help: i686 is a newer architecture.  it is largely backwards compatible with i386
[17:36] <dew> ikonia linux.bin n initrd.gz
[17:36] <lstarnes> Cube: sudo apt-get remove firefox
[17:37] <keika> Can i access to system tray with keyboard without mouse emulation?
[17:37] <ikonia> dew: I strongly advise you not to do this
[17:37] <diddy> grawity, where you you personally store shell vars?
[17:37] <ikonia> dew: not unless you are %150 confident in what you are doing
[17:37] <dew> ikonia k
[17:37] <diddy> grawity, permanent ones.
[17:37] <lstarnes> Cube: firefox 3.5 is likely installed as firefox-3.5, a separate package
[17:37] <Cube> lstarnes: kk. how could i make sure?
[17:37] <need_help> lstarnes ah i though i386 is intel ah ok thx for ur help =)
[17:37] <lstarnes> need_help: it is intel
[17:37] <grawity> diddy: mostly ~/.bashrc, but some (like $TZ) in ~/.profile
[17:37] <lstarnes> Cube: aptitude show firefox
[17:38] <lstarnes> Cube: aptitude show firefox-3.5
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Cube: i recommend you run; sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox; sudo ln -s /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 /usr/bin/firefox
[17:38] <need_help> lstarnes how i can know the ADM from inel ? if intel i386 and AMD : i686?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Cube: makes life easier
[17:38] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: that might cause breakage with packages
[17:38] <grawity> need_help: No.
[17:38] <Frank83> Grawity: This is what I am talking about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136850 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/351656
[17:38] <grawity> need_help: Both i386 and i686 can be both AMD and Intel.
[17:38] <keepguessing> i am trying to install openssh-server .. by the command apt-get install openssh-server and i get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/227843/ ...
[17:38] <lstarnes> need_help: AMD's architectures are practically the same as Intel's
[17:38] <need_help> grawity ahhh got u =)
[17:39] <Cube> lstarnes: ActionParsnip: aint got the 3.5 one
[17:39] <grawity> need_help: i686 is just newer
[17:39] <need_help> lstarnes thx =) too got u :)
[17:39] <diddy> grawity, you are on Ubuntu?
[17:39] <Inf_lappy_> oh. there's a firefox-3.5 package. even easier! :)
[17:39] <grawity> diddy: At the moment, yes.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> istarnes: saves having to change browser options. It's a symlink as 3.0.11
[17:39] <diddy> grawity, at other moments where? :)
[17:39] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: it can still cause package breakage
[17:40] <grawity> diddy: Sometimes - Windows XP, when I get bored.
[17:40] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: which is why you should remove the package for the old firefox before symlinking
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> istarnes: possibly
[17:40] <diddy> grawity, brrr
[17:40] <Inf_lappy_> firefox-3.5 suggests latex-xft-fonts?! excuse me, but i'm not really seeing the connection there
[17:40] <superdaniel49> dew: if the download is not from the official Ubuntu Website (www.ubuntu.com) then do not install it. I would suggest downloading it from the ubuntu website or order the cd.
[17:40] <koltroll> Switched USB-stick, did the exact same procedure.. now booting. annoying.
[17:40] <Frank83> So I just wanted to know if there is any way to disable IPV6 on Ubu9.04 without recompiling my kernel (I'm too much of a noob to mess with it)
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> peeeter: runnng irc clients as root is a really bad idea
[17:41] <grawity> diddy: WinXP is ugly, yes - but this laptop is too slow for Win7.
[17:41] <Zajjko1> ikonia: The output is exactly the same
[17:41] <Zajjko1> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[17:41] <diddy> grawity, so why it the .bash_profile then used for if I can put anything into the .bashrc ?
[17:41] <lstarnes> Frank83: sudo modprobe -r ipv6
[17:41] <Zajjko1> afk for a few minutes (pm?)
[17:41] <keepguessing> i am trying to install openssh-server .. by the command apt-get install openssh-server and i get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/227843/ ...
[17:41] <Frank83> Gonna try that.
[17:42] <lstarnes> Frank83: you could also blacklist the modules
[17:42] <grawity> diddy: .bash_login/.bash_profile/.profile (in that order) are sourced when bash is started as a login shell (when you login from SSH, or on a virtual console).
[17:42] <dew> ikonia am trying wubi install now
[17:42] <dew> ikonia do i need a cd?
[17:42] <lstarnes> Frank83: but please make sure that it is defintiely ipv6 and definitely not something else
[17:42] <grawity> diddy: .bashrc is for non-login shells (such as Terminal or xterm).
[17:42] <ikonia> Zajjko1: so you know they are using the same dns servers then
[17:42] <grawity> diddy: But .bashrc is often sourced from .bash_profile too.
[17:42] <Inf_lappy_> Frank83, i presume there is a boot time parameter you can pass to the kernel as well with GRUB (haven't fiddled with that myself in a looong time though)
[17:42] <ikonia> dew: that helps for cd installs, yes
[17:42] <felidae> keepguessing: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[17:43] <NET||abuse> this is very very frustrating, my ethernet nic keeps dying, wifi still seems to work remarkably,, but the network cable connection is just dying, i reboot and it's back, but i have a vm open right now and can't
[17:43]  * Hamlin would just partition and install that way, thats me though
[17:43] <Inf_lappy_> keepguessing, not here, of course. on pastebin.com or something
[17:43] <Cube> lstarnes: ActionParsnip: aint got the 3.5 one
[17:43] <NET||abuse> i tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:43] <felidae> keepguessing: maybe you have a bad mixture of sources...
[17:43] <NET||abuse> no joy from that,
[17:43] <lstarnes> Cube: I saw.  How did you install firefox 3.5 then?
[17:43] <Frank83> Lstarnes Yes, I am pretty sure It's IPV6. I allways need to disable it everytime I install Ubuntu. My ISP doesn't get along with IPV6
[17:43] <NET||abuse> what else can i do to get the eth0 back working?
[17:43] <ikonia> keepguessing: sudo apt-get update first
[17:43] <Cube> lstarnes: with the ubuntuzilla script
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: run     dmesg | tail     just after it dies
[17:43] <grawity> Hamlin: Actually, 9.04 even does that automatically.
[17:43] <lstarnes> Cube: I'd not recommend that
[17:43] <Cube> lstarnes: oh how come?
[17:44] <lstarnes> Cube: there are actual packages for it
[17:44] <Padhu_1> Which is an good GUI interface for samba?
[17:44] <lstarnes> !ff35 > Cube
[17:44] <Cube> lstarnes: on 8.10 as well?
[17:44] <grawity> Padhu_1: system-config-samba is one.
[17:44] <lstarnes> Cube: there's a PPA
[17:44] <diddy> grawity, how about a login via gdm. What is shell config script is executed there first?
[17:44] <keepguessing> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/227870/
[17:44] <Cube> lstarnes: oh
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Padhu_1: nautilus is ok. I always edit smb.conf
[17:44] <Frank83> lstarnes, I get a message where "FATAL: Module ipv6 not found."
[17:44] <dew> ikonia i hope this works
[17:44] <lstarnes> Frank83: actually, don't do what I recommended.  Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[17:44] <ikonia> keepguessing: i'd get rid of the last 2 lines
[17:44] <stickystyle> Does anyone know where I can find previous versions of packages in multiverse?  particularly I'm looking for sun-java6* hardy packages version 6-07-3ubuntu2, the one previous to the current 6-14-0ubuntu1.8.04 in hardy.
[17:44] <Padhu> Which is an good GUI interface for samba?
[17:44] <superdaniel49> dew r u there?
[17:45] <grawity> diddy: Well, gdm doesn't start a shell at all... (it still seems to source .bash_profile for some reason)
[17:45] <GaryY> #bglug
[17:45] <ikonia> keepguessing: then do an sudo apt-get update
[17:45] <ikonia> GaryY: ?
[17:45] <dew> superdaniel yea mate
[17:45] <K-Zodron> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and I just can't get this crappy wlan to work, I got belkin F5D7050, it detects it and all, but I can't find any networks nor connect to any, also tried ndiswrapper - help?
[17:45] <ikonia> Padhu: swat is the only real option for a server
[17:45] <superdaniel49> ok do you have a cd or a download?
[17:45] <Frank83> lstarnes: Thanks! Loading it right now. Going to give it a look.
[17:46] <diddy> grawity, Thx.
[17:46] <dew> superdaniel download
[17:46] <om26er> !karmic
[17:46] <superdaniel49> dew: did you download it from the ubuntu website?
[17:46] <grawity> diddy: Actually, gdm loads a whole lot of other scripts from deep inside /etc/X11 and /etc/xdg
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Padhu: if you can learn the file, you can ssh in and add shares as you wish without attending the system
[17:47] <dew> superdanielyea ubuntuforums.org
[17:47] <felidae> keepguessing: you should remove the last two lines
[17:47] <ikonia> dew: you get an ubuntu cd image from ubuntu.com
[17:47] <ikonia> !install | dew
[17:47] <ikonia> dew: read thouse URL's
[17:47] <thiebaude> !unetbootin
[17:48] <keepguessing> ikonia: I have jaunty installed in my machine and as u may have seen in the source.list it shows hardy links .. it is not wrong
[17:48] <Zajjko1> ikonia: yes, the only difference seems to be that the dns:s configured on my router don't get forwarded through wlan, only through wired
[17:48] <ikonia> keepguessing: yes, very wrong
[17:48] <keepguessing> how do i get a proper sources.list then
[17:48] <ikonia> Zajjko1: I'd guess that's a config problem with  our router only forwarding ip from certain client Ip/MAC's
[17:49] <ikonia> keepguessing: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[17:49] <diddy> Is there any way that I can make an export (from the command line) permanent?
[17:49] <geoff__> I want to download Opera10b2, I can only choose package i386 for ubuntu7.10 or package x86-64 for ubuntu9.04. I think I don't have the 64-bit version installed (how can I make sure?) would there be a problem with installing the x86-64 package?
[17:49] <diddy> Some trick? :)
[17:49] <ikonia> diddy: export it in a .basrc/bash_profile file
[17:49] <superdaniel49> well download it from the ubuntu website instead.
[17:49] <lstarnes> geoff__: what's the output of uname -m?
[17:49] <grawity> diddy: Just add the export to .bashrc or whatever.
[17:50] <gmoss> Hi, can someone please tell me why the following line in my fstab does not auto-mount my internal fat32 partition? /dev/sda6 /media/disk-1 vfat defaults 0 0
[17:50] <keepguessing> ikonia: Linux zzzz 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:50] <lstarnes> geoff__: also, which version of ubuntu are you using, and where are you getting the packages from?
[17:50] <ikonia> !info linux-kernel
[17:50] <Krenso> Hello
[17:50] <ikonia> !info kernel-image
[17:50] <palomer> how do i find out what are the biggest files in a directory?
[17:50] <thiebaude> !kernel
[17:50] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[17:50] <diddy> ikonia, yes, I know that. I mean to store it permanently from the command line somehow. Impossible? ;) something like: export --permanent HISTSIZE=2000 ?
[17:50] <stew> palomer: ls -S | head -1
[17:50] <lstarnes> palomer: du DIRECTORY | sort -n
[17:50] <ikonia> diddy: no
[17:50] <Krenso> is there ubuntu-mono channel?
[17:50] <diddy> ikonia, :(
[17:50] <ikonia> diddy: it pasrses your config file each time you open an shell
[17:51] <Frank83> Bye guys
[17:51] <albano> i've installed ati drivers and after install i restarted and the image didnt resume and the screen saz aut of range how can i reconfigure the xorg
[17:51] <felidae> keepguessing: system->administration->software sources
[17:51] <ikonia> keepguessing: how did you upgrade ?
[17:51] <superdaniel49> geoff__: try downloading Opera from the official website in the .deb format and see if that will work
[17:51] <K-Zodron> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and I just can't get this crappy wlan to work, I got belkin F5D7050, it detects it and all, but I can't find any networks nor connect to any, also tried ndiswrapper - help?
[17:51] <diddy> ikonia, OK
[17:52] <grawity> diddy: you don't need to export HISTFILESIZE, as it's just used internally by bash
[17:52] <grawity> diddy: just add the line   HISTFILESIZE=12345   to .bashrc
[17:52] <keepguessing> ikonia: it is a fresh installation
[17:52] <felidae> keepguessing: then you should remove the source which don't fit your ubuntu release number. your release number seems to be 8.04 (Hardy). remove the feisty related sources
[17:52] <diddy> grawity, yes it is already in there.
[17:52] <ikonia> keepguessing: where did you download the cd ?
[17:52] <diddy> grawity, it was just an example
[17:52] <keepguessing> felidae: I have jaunty installed
[17:52] <dew> ikonia lol http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 should be deleted
[17:53] <felidae> keepguessing: wow.
[17:53] <Padhu> I am asking GUI tool for samba for the people who are new one to linux. This question arose during writing ubuntu startup guide in my own language
[17:53] <keepguessing> from ubuntu website ....
[17:53] <grawity> Padhu: For configuring Samba, system-config-samba.
[17:53] <ikonia> dew: no - it shouldn't
[17:53] <ikonia> dew: you should just read it properly - the info is for ubuntu 5
[17:53] <ikonia> dew: and it clearly says this in the first post
[17:53] <keepguessing> felidae: ikonia http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Manually_add_repositories is this the right list of repositories ??
[17:54] <ikonia> keepguessing: I would re-install
[17:54] <ikonia> keepguessing: if your sources.list file is wrong, no idea what else could be wrong
[17:54] <gmoss> Hi, can someone please tell me why the following line in my fstab does not auto-mount my internal fat32 partition? /dev/sda6 /media/disk-1 vfat defaults 0 0
[17:54] <keepguessing> ikonia: I have got it from the ubuntu website
[17:54] <ikonia> keepguessing: I find it hard to believe this is a clean install though
[17:54] <ikonia> keepguessing: as you've got to fesity repositories at the bottom of the sources.list
[17:54] <felidae> please post your /etc/lsb-release
[17:54] <magnetron> gmoss: are they separated with tab characters?
[17:54] <felidae> keepguessing: please post your /etc/lsb-release
[17:54] <ikonia> keepguessing: I think you should explain how they got there
[17:54] <geoff__> superdaniel49: That's what I'm saying, I have a choice between the .deb for ubuntu7 i386 and the .deb for ubuntu9 x86-64
[17:55] <keepguessing> ikonia: I have no idea ...
[17:55] <gmoss> magnetron: no, spaces - should they be? my other entries have spaces...
[17:55] <Padhu> Gravity: Thanks. I will try it.
[17:55] <ikonia> keepguessing: please post lsb_release -a
[17:55] <magnetron> gmoss: they should be tab characters
[17:55] <ikonia> keepguessing: I don't think your being %100 honest here
[17:55] <bazz> is there any reasonable way to highlight (and save) text in a pdf/ps?
[17:55] <lstarnes> geoff__: what output do you get from "uname -m" and "lsb_release -r"?
[17:55] <keepguessing> felidea http://paste.ubuntu.com/227915/
[17:56] <gmoss> magnetron: alright, will fix. Then it's a mystery as to why my other internal partition does automount, but oh well :-) thanks!
[17:56] <navetz> how do I add www-data to my main user group?
[17:56] <mikejet> Is the firefox/youtube/fullscreen bug fixed yet?
[17:56] <OttifantSir> gmoss: I'm not sure, but likely because you don't mount to a directory within /media/ , only to /media/ Make a directory with a name of something you want, or simply sda6, then add that directory after /media/ in fstab, without the trailing / So it could /media/sda6 but not /media/sda6/
[17:56] <keepguessing> ikonia: i am telling u what it is ... now i do not have to prove it ...
[17:56] <lstarnes> navetz: sudo gpasswd -a USERNAME GROUPNAME
[17:56] <ikonia> keepguessing: have you used any tools like automatix, something like that ?
[17:56] <ikonia> keepguessing: have you run any software on this machine
[17:57] <mikejet> Firefox crashes when loading this page:  newwestnotes.com
[17:57] <keepguessing> ikonia: i have only tried to build perl 5.8.8 on this one
[17:57] <geoff__> lstarnes: i686 and 7
[17:57] <felidae> keepguessing: so your sources are completely messed up. maybe your system is not yet broken. replace the sources.list with the standard one. e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/227918/
[17:58] <gmoss> magnetron: great, thanks for your help!
[17:58] <lstarnes> geoff__: 7 isn't a valid version
[17:58] <keepguessing> felidae: thanks for the suggestion .. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Manually_add_repositories <<< This url contains some sample sources are they alright to be used
[17:58] <lstarnes> geoff__: is it 7.10 or 7.04?
[17:58] <ikonia> keepguessing: no -
[17:58] <ikonia> keepguessing: I strongly advise you re-install
[17:59] <felidae> keepguessing: yes
[17:59] <ikonia> keepguessing: I think your CD is not a proper ubuntu install cd - as 3rd party repo's are NOT corruption
[17:59] <jthomas> hi guys
[17:59] <geoff__> lstarnes: I run linuxmint 7 which is based on ubuntu 9.04
[17:59] <jthomas> both of my shift keys are completely nonfunctional
[17:59] <ikonia> geoff__: then this is not the place to get support
[18:00] <Pici> !mintsupport | geoff__
[18:00] <jthomas> does anybody know how to fix this/
[18:00] <ikonia> geoff__: linux mint has it's own support resources
[18:00] <felidae> keepguessing: ikonia is right, reinstall is probably better
[18:00] <jthomas> or why it might have happened
[18:00] <lstarnes> geoff__: I don't think we support mint here
[18:00] <navetz> lstarnes: thanks
[18:00] <keepguessing> hmm ikonia I shall keep your suggestions in consideration if I face more issues ... thanks for your suggestions ... felidae thanks for your suggestions too ... I would replace the source.list and check if things work ..
[18:00] <geoff__> I know, but there aren't enough people on the mint channel
[18:01] <gmoss> next question: a few days ago the SCIM icon appeared of its own will and started changing the keyboard layout to asian languages - all I have installed are english and russian. Anyone know what is going on, and what I can do to stop this behavior? Thanks for your help!
[18:01] <Pici> geoff__: And yet it still not supported in this channel.
[18:01] <ikonia> geoff__: that's not something ubuntu is responsible for
[18:01] <lstarnes> geoff__: this channel is solely for official ubuntu releases
[18:01] <albano> can somone help me my screen says out of range how can i reconfigure?
[18:01] <geoff__> it would probably taken you guys less time to just answer my questions instead of repeating that you don't support mint users
[18:01] <ikonia> geoff__: doesn't matter - it's not supported here
[18:01] <ikonia> geoff__: please respect that
[18:02] <lstarnes> geoff__: we cannot adequately provide support for mint because it differs too greatly from ubuntu and is not controlled by the same organization that runs this channel
[18:03] <Krylar> is there a way to specify that my ubuntu not should NOT be the master server on the windows network?
[18:03] <Spikemcc> mint that crap isn't dead now ?
[18:03] <ikonia> Krylar: normally in the smb.conf file
[18:03] <ikonia> Krylar: domainmaster=no something like that
[18:03] <ikonia> Krylar: or domainmember=yes
[18:03] <Krylar> bitchin.
[18:03] <ikonia> Krylar: it's well documented
[18:03] <|SonGoku|> .com
[18:03] <ethereality> Hello, can you help me with my LaTeX problem? I have created a thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1220261 but no one has replied. :(
[18:05] <Spikemcc> can you help me with minimal install of ubuntu but with lxde
[18:05] <Pici> ethereality: You may want to ask in #latex for starters
[18:05] <ikonia> !minimal | Spikemcc
[18:05] <koro> ethereality: did you try without the fragile option?
[18:06] <koro> just to identify whether the verbatim or fragile are causing the problem
[18:06] <superdaniel49> dew: r u there?
[18:06] <Spikemcc> is there a place that review all linux softwares to make my choice of cli apps, ultralight gui apps ...
[18:06] <ethereality> koro: Yes, I don't think it works. I will certainly try again. Pici: Thanks, I didn't know of such a channel.
[18:06] <ikonia> Spikemcc: all over the internet
[18:06] <CrocoJet> in my "fstab" file, I have this information "UUID=f35a71f9-23b0-4e26-a87c-ab926308f801" for one harddisk. Now I would likfe add new harddisk, where I can find "UUID" for this new harddisk ?
[18:07] <CrocoJet> likfe = like
[18:07] <ikonia> CrocoJet: sudo blkid
[18:07] <Spikemcc> ikonia I don't wanna search 1000 hours ...
[18:07] <diddy> grawity, what is the difference between ~/.bash_profile and  ~/.profile ?
[18:07] <ikonia> Spikemcc: neither do we
[18:08] <C_House> What do u guys think is better? Debian or Ubuntu?
[18:08] <ikonia> !poll | CrocoJet
[18:08] <ikonia> oops
[18:08] <ikonia> !poll > C_House
[18:08] <ikonia> !offtopic > C_House
[18:08] <gmoss>  a few days ago the SCIM icon appeared of its own will and started changing the keyboard layout to asian languages - all I have installed are english and russian. Anyone know what is going on, and what I can do to stop this behavior? Thanks for your help! Let me know this question would be better asked in another channel.
[18:08] <koro> ethereality: try replacing [fragile] by [containsverbatim]
[18:08] <C_House> sorry
[18:08] <grawity> diddy: If bash doesn't find ~/.bash_login, it looks for ~/.bash_profile. If that doesn't exist either, bash looks for ~/.profile
[18:08] <ikonia> C_House: not a problem
[18:08] <resno> Dns is not resolving when using analog. Looking for a little help.
[18:08] <ethereality> koro: Okay
[18:08] <CrocoJet> ikonia, thanks
[18:09] <ikonia> CrocoJet: my mistake
[18:09] <Houba1986> Hi, I'm having a problem with my Firefox v. 3.0.12 on Ubuntu 9.04. It won't load any pages that contain SSL. (ie. When I go to login to Facebook, Gmail, Yahoo Mail, etc..) It say it's loading but nothing loads. How do I fix this? These sites work fine on my other computers running Windows... so I know there's no problem with my internet connection or router...
[18:09] <ethereality> koro: Does the [option] go before or after the {argument}?
[18:09] <Spikemcc> debian for server or desktop without crap ... ubuntu if you want easy, you could use the minimal cd to customize it and lean it ... debian packages are older then ubuntu ones ...
[18:09] <diddy> grawity, so you are saying if there is a ~/.bash_profile then we don't need a ~/.profile but not the other way around?
[18:09] <CrocoJet> np
[18:09] <gmoss> CrocoJet: you don't need the UUID, you can still do it the way the older fstab did, with the /dev/... entry
[18:09] <koro> ethereality: in this case it should look like this: \begin{frame}[fragile]
[18:09] <ikonia> Spikemcc: tha'ts offtopic here
[18:09] <grawity> diddy: bash only uses one of them anyway.
[18:09] <philpem> Houba1986, do you have a firewall set up (or a router between you and the internet)?
[18:09] <koro> ethereality: i mean, \begin{frame}[containsverbatim]
[18:10] <CrocoJet> gmoss, ok
[18:10] <grawity> diddy: Use the one you prefer.
[18:10] <bcmorr2> I'm looking for some help- My ALSAmixer won't let me mute my mic playback, and the slider is attached to my Mic Capture slider
[18:10] <philpem> Houba1986, it sounds like something is blocking SSL
[18:10] <gmoss> CrocoJet: so like /dev/sda2        /media/partition_2      ntfs-3g       defaults      0       0
[18:10] <Houba1986> philpem: No, I don't. It was all working fine until yesterday, I don't know what happened.
[18:10] <ikonia> CrocoJet: just  "sudo blkid"
[18:10] <philpem> Houba1986, did you install or remove any software yesterday?
[18:10] <CrocoJet> ikonia, how this program blkid calcule or find these values ?
[18:11] <Houba1986> philpem: No, nothing... Is there a way to reinstall firefox? Maybe that would fix the problem?
[18:11] <ikonia> CrocoJet: it's just a unique identifier
[18:11] <CrocoJet> ok
[18:11] <diddy> grawity, so if we wouldn't source the .bashrc file in the .bash_profile file then the .bashrc wouldn't have any effect on users that log in via SSH, right?
[18:11] <ethereality> koro: It appears that allows code to be written in typewriter form, but it corrupts the \pause command I had entered such that the second column in the slide is never displayed.
[18:11] <bcmorr2> I'm looking for some help- My ALSAmixer won't let me mute my mic playback, and the slider is attached to my Mic Capture slider
[18:12] <ethereality> (It does not corrupt the pdflatex compilation.)
[18:12] <heatmzzr> What is the best website design software in ubuntu for a newbie?
[18:12] <philpem> Houba1986, Probably worth doing a few quick checks first. Open FF, then go to https://www.gmail.com . You should at least get a login page, even if you don't have a Gmail account it's a good test.
[18:12] <grawity> diddy: yep
[18:12] <koro> ethereality: yes, i read in the manual that you cannot use overlays (stuff like pause/etc) when there is [containsverbatim]
[18:12] <philpem> (Google is rarely, if ever, down)
[18:12] <ethereality> heatmzzr: I'd really say gedit and learning at www.w3schools.com
[18:12] <diddy> grawity, Thx
[18:12] <koro> ethereality: apparently there is a way of doing it, but it's more complicate, lemme check
[18:12] <ikonia> heatmzzr: web design software is actually quite limited on linux - it comes down to personal preference, look at screem and quanta in the repos,
[18:13] <gmoss>  a few days ago the SCIM icon appeared of its own will and started changing the keyboard layout to asian languages - all I have installed are english and russian. Anyone know what is going on, and what I can do to stop this behavior? Thanks for your help!
[18:13] <Syrioth> heatmzzr: i found something called screem if thts any use
[18:13] <Houba1986> philpem: yes, that works, and i can login and view my inbox... but when i click on any email to open it, it won't open :S
[18:14] <defrysk> heath|home, maybe compozer is what you are looking for
[18:14] <philpem> Houba1986, that's odd. So it's not a question of "SSL doesn't work", more "links from SSL sites don't work".
[18:14] <heatmzzr> thanks all
[18:14] <Houba1986> philpem: i get an error saying: Some Gmail features have failed to load due to an Internet connectivity problem. If this problem persists, try  reloading the page, using  https, using the  older version, or using basic HTML mode. Learn More.
[18:14] <defrysk> that should be kompozer
[18:14]  * Dekko wonders if there is a way for me to have color during boot (verbose text boot under framebuffer) :)
[18:15] <koro> ethereality: ok this is the suggested way:
[18:15] <philpem> Houba1986, that sounds like an issue with the security settings.
[18:15] <taneli> karmic has been broken for a few weeks now, why no session is started after logging to x? All i get is the background picture ...
[18:15] <philpem> Houba1986, What I'd do is try resetting your Firefox profile, but you'll lose your bookmarks and any plugins you've installed.
[18:16] <philpem> Houba1986, exception being if you've installed something like Xmarks in which case you'll just lose the plugins
[18:16] <Houba1986> philpem: that's not a problem, how do i do that?
[18:16] <koro> ethereality: damn, this is going to be annoying to exaplin, let me get you a pastebin link
[18:16] <jon_davis> does anybody know how to get seamonkey to work on a ubuntu linux os
[18:16] <defrysk> taneli, /j #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <jon_davis> i got it but it needs to update it
[18:16] <philpem> Houba1986, What variant of ubuntu are you using, normal ubuntu, kubuntu, or something else?
[18:16] <jon_davis> i have also tryd
[18:16] <taneli> defrysk: danke
[18:17] <Houba1986> philpem: normal ubuntu
[18:17] <ethereality> thanks, koro <3
[18:17] <philpem> Houba1986, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal.
[18:17] <jon_davis> i got ubunu linux 9.04
[18:17] <Spikemcc> jon_davis sudo apt-get install seamonkey
[18:17] <philpem> Houba1986, you should now have a black box with something like "yourusername@yourmachinesname:~$ " in it.
[18:17] <Houba1986> philpem: alright, i opened up the terminal, what do i need to type in?
[18:18] <Spikemcc> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:18] <philpem> Houba1986, first close mozilla (sorry, should have told you to do that first)
[18:18] <Houba1986> philpem: yeah, i had done that already
[18:18] <philpem> Houba1986, then the command you want is: mv .mozilla .OLD_mozilla
[18:19] <philpem> Houba1986, in other words, rename the ".mozilla" directory to ".OLD_mozilla"
[18:19] <koro> ethereality: this is an example of the alternative way (that allows using pause/etc). Basically you have to use "\defverbatim" to define a command that inserts the verbatim text inside the frame: http://pastebin.com/m76db37fe
[18:19] <Houba1986> philpem: ok, did that
[18:19] <philpem> Houba1986, once you've done that, close the terminal and open firefox again.
[18:19] <koro> ethereality: so you wouldn't use [containsverbatim] (in fact you must not use it, otherwise the "pause" will still break things)
[18:19] <jon_davis> ok now what  do i do.i think it did up date it
[18:20] <nfodude> quit
[18:20] <resno> Looking for help gettnig dns to resolve with analog.
[18:20] <Zajjko1> How do I override the Automatic DNS:s assigned by the router? I'm supposed to edit the dhclient.conf file as far as I've understood, but when googeling it I only come up with command line options for dhclient
[18:21] <Houba1986> philpem: hmmm, ok, facebook now works, but gmail still doesn't work....
[18:22] <Houba1986> philpem: well, facebook allowed me to login, but when i click any link, my inbox for example, it doesn't load...
[18:22] <jon_davis> seamonkey is still saying that it need's to be up-date'd.evert time that i hite the seamonkey buttion
[18:23] <philpem> Houba1986, hmm, odd. that sounds more like something in the network path is broken
[18:23] <jon_davis> so what do i do
[18:23] <irocksu> hi
[18:23] <[nrx]> hi
[18:23] <Houba1986> philpem: it works fine on my computers running windows though...
[18:24] <fccf> Zajjko1: have you looked at man dhclient.conf ... and man dhclient ... two differnet manuals
[18:24] <irocksu> is the jaunty ati problem fixed yet?
[18:24] <ethereality> Thanks, koro and Pici :)
[18:24] <grawity> irocksu: depends on what ATi problem you mean.
[18:24] <j2daosh> ok, i got a friend who has ubuntu and the speakers work but her headphones dont. any ideas?
[18:24] <Zajjko1> fccf: feeling doenright stupid right about now : (
[18:24] <Zajjko1> whoops
[18:24] <Zajjko1> : )
[18:25] <irocksu> there is this nasty bug in xserver that slows ati cards
[18:25] <philpem> Houba1986, open that terminal again and type: wget -O /dev/null http://www.google.com/
[18:25] <irocksu> so you have to wait for like 3 seconds to alt+tab to another app
[18:25] <jon_davis> does anybody know about seamonkey.that can help me out
[18:25] <fccf> Zajjko1: no worries... I am the guy that looks for people's stupid mistakes, and corrects them
[18:25] <philpem> Houba1986, that'll try and download the Google home page, but won't save it
[18:25] <Zajjko1> haha
[18:25] <Syrioth> hey guys i've heard a bit about sea monkey is it any good???
[18:25] <Houba1986> philpem: ok, did that
[18:25] <philpem> Houba1986, does that work?
[18:26] <Zajjko1> fccf: I didn't know we had a guy for that. Amazing!
[18:26] <j2daosh> hey
[18:26] <Houba1986> philpem: yes, it works
[18:26] <j2daosh> i need to know why headphones won't work but speakers do
[18:26] <damaltor> hello everybody. i have a huge problem: i just typed a LOT with abiword, but did not save. i then had a complete lockup, and had to hard-reset the computer. now i wanted to open the document.bak~ file wich abiword automatically saves every 5 minutes, but how do i do this? directly opening it doesnt seem to work, abiword only reports an error. the file seems complete (ends with </abiword>), but how do i open it?
[18:26] <philpem> Houba1986, so you got "/dev/null saved [6085]" at the end?
[18:26] <j2daosh> the headphones aren't broke either
[18:26] <j2daosh> they work fine on another system
[18:26] <irocksu> i had to disable all effects on my desktop to get it to run "ok"
[18:26] <fccf> Zajjko1: no, but I am working on a AI for a bot I want to use here... eventually
[18:26] <philpem> j2daosh, open the audio mixer, make sure the "Headphones" output is turned on
[18:27] <[nrx]> j2daosh, enable all your PCM outputs
[18:27] <Houba1986> philpem: i got 5325 not 6085
[18:27] <Syrioth> j2daosh - is there a connecton problem with the pc itself??
[18:27] <j2daosh> ok, lemme tell her to do that. where is the audio mixer at?
[18:27] <colbertj> how can I exit an X session and just use the command line
[18:27] <Sj4lut> !tv
[18:27] <colbertj> i tried ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:27] <Zajjko1> fccf: : what? One that always copies the nickname followed by "have you checked the man-page for that?"
[18:27] <philpem> Houba1986, probably not a big deal; you probably connected to a different server in the "google cloud"
[18:27] <colbertj> but that didnt do anything
[18:27] <grawity> colbertj: you could press Ctrl-Alt-F2 -- that won't exit the existing session, just switch to the second virtual console, but that is probably what you need.
[18:27] <j2daosh> i dont remember and i have to fix my grub before i can get back into kubuntu to look
[18:28] <fccf> damaltor: rename the file from document.bak to document.doc ... and open it
[18:28] <irocksu> the problem is described on this forum (and many others) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140147&page=2
[18:28] <grawity> colbertj: once you login there, "sudo service gdm stop" would shut down GDM and X.
[18:28] <philpem> Houba1986, so it's not a network issue, that leaves software, i.e. firefox.
[18:28] <irocksu> but there is no good solution out yet
[18:28] <colbertj> grawity: i am attempting to install nvidia drivers, which require that an X sessions not be running
[18:28] <irocksu> afaik
[18:28] <damaltor> fccf: i just renamed to abiword ending (.abw). that seemed to work. thanks though ;)
[18:28] <grawity> colbertj: see my above message...
[18:28] <pintook> i want to deactivate my single click
[18:29] <philpem> Houba1986, close firefox, then in that terminal, type: sudo apt-get purge firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-gnome-support firefox-3.0-gnome-support
[18:29] <fccf> Zajjko1: no, it is a little more advanced than that, and it'll have a sence of humor, kinda like ubottu, but more human
[18:29] <sebrock> I had to change my HDD, doing so I used a TAR-backedup archive of my original disc and unpacked it on the new disc, including generating new grub. But the boot process dies saying runlevel not found
[18:29] <sebrock> how can I fix this?
[18:29] <jon_davis> Hello anybody from the usa that can really help me on the seamonkey web.plese I have install it two time's now but it is still saying to plese get the new or better ver for linux.but i am uesing ubuntu linux9.04......can anybody plese help me out
[18:29] <philpem> Houba1986, let me know when that finishes (it'll probably take a while)
[18:30] <Zajjko1> fccf: Nice! Will keep an eye out for it. (Rather, it will keep an eye out for me, just waiting for the perfect time to give me a kick in the nuts : p)
[18:31] <jon_davis> does anybody know how help help
[18:31] <Houba1986> philpem: ok, it's done
[18:31] <grawity> jon_davis: how did you install SeaMonkey?
[18:31] <resno> does anyone here use analog for log analysis? i need help getting dns to resolve.
[18:31] <casey> Hello
[18:31] <colbertj> grawity: yea, but that still doesnt stop X from running
[18:31] <colbertj> it's still considered running
[18:32] <fccf> jon_davis: Have you looked here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeaMonkey - the automated script from ubuntuzilla should install the right one
[18:32] <pintook> how do i deactivate my single click, where do i go
[18:32] <grawity> colbertj: <grawity> colbertj: once you login there, "sudo service gdm stop" would  shut down GDM and X.
[18:32] <philpem> Houba1986, now try: apt-get autoremove
[18:32] <jon_davis> i install it bu going to add/remove
[18:32] <pintook> how do i deactivate my single click, where do i go
[18:32] <philpem> Houba1986, (that removes packages that Firefox depended on, but are no longer used)
[18:32] <pintook> how do i deactivate my single click, where do i go
[18:33] <Houba1986> philpem: i got permission denied... should i add sudo before that?
[18:33] <pintook> hi flush boot
[18:33] <Syrioth> hi i was wondering whether it would be worth the update from 8.10 to 9.04 ???
[18:33] <casey> how do i chage primission of folders in terminal?
[18:33] <philpem> Houba1986, oops, yeah my bad. sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[18:33] <albano> can someone talk to me not here on the wall  for reconfiguring x
[18:33] <grawity> casey: chmod
[18:33] <colbertj> still no luck :-(
[18:33] <casey> ok
[18:33] <xFlux> Syrioth:  More packages and better hardware support for newer processors....other than that you may not need to
[18:33] <philpem> Houba1986, most of the dependencies will be libraries, but it might be worth leaving purge on anyway
[18:34] <grawity> albano: what do you mean?
[18:34] <casey> what are the primissions
[18:34] <Syrioth> xFlux - thanks would it have more hardware support for monitors???
[18:35] <Houba1986> philpem: okay, its done
[18:35] <xFlux> ehhhh, not sure about that one :)
[18:35] <philpem> Houba1986, ok, sudo apt-get clean
[18:35] <gareim> hey, who uses skype here? because it says i have a problem with audio playback. anyone have a solution?
[18:35] <philpem> Houba1986, sudo apt-get update
[18:35] <denny> 8.10 and 9.04 both have the newer version of Xorg that doesn't support multiple graphics cards
[18:35] <Syrioth> xFlux - thanks anyway
[18:35] <denny> 8.04 was the last version of ubuntu to include the version of Xorg that supported multiple cards
[18:35] <philpem> Houba1986, the first one of those cleans the package cache, the second grabs the latest package list
[18:35] <denny> you can run dual-monitor from a single card with the newer versions, but not multi-card, so not three+ screens generally
[18:36] <philpem> Houba1986, after those finish, sudo apt-get install firefox firefox-gnome-support
[18:36] <Syrioth>  denny: tht seemed not to have support for my monitor tho
[18:36] <pintook> how do i deactivate my single click, where do i go
[18:36] <denny> what monitor do you have?
[18:36] <philpem> Houba1986, those two packages are "meta-packages", which means they always depend on the latest version of firefox. that is, they'll keep firefox up to date.
[18:36] <judithtgilde> I can not manage to write in French and put the accents. How do i solve this?
[18:36] <gareim> pintook: try going to system>preferences>mouse
[18:37] <Syrioth> asus something
[18:37] <casey> what are the numbers of letters for primssions
[18:37] <gareim> anyone here use skype?
[18:37] <denny> casey: 4 = r, 2 = w, 1 = x
[18:37] <dew> gareim lol yea
[18:37] <casey> i mean numbers and latters
[18:37] <denny> add them up, so rw is 6 for instance
[18:37] <gareim> dew: does it work for you? i get a "audio playback problem"
[18:37] <MOUD> Hello
[18:37] <Syrioth> i looked throuh the available monitor types on config and it wasnt there
[18:37] <pintook> ow do i deactivate my single click, where do i go
[18:37] <casey> ok
[18:37] <Inf_lappy_> hmm... there is a firefox-3.5 package (apt-cache search firefox finds it), but installing it does nothing it seems. about box in firefox still says it's 3.0.x
[18:37] <denny> pintook: what single click are you talking about?
[18:38] <gareim> pintook: try system preferences
[18:38] <dew> gareim stink ill get back to you
[18:38] <j2daosh> [nrx] u still there?
[18:38] <MOUD> I just downloaded FF 3.5, how do I install it?
[18:38] <dew> garreim it worked on 8.04
[18:38] <Loki> Hey. I have been trying to bind my bluetooth headset to my system, but for some reason I haven't been able to set it up correctly. I am using the wiki directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset and i am keep on getting errors at step 15 that says that I can't connect to the pulse audio server
[18:38] <Inf_lappy_> oooh. /usr/bin/firefox is a symlink to firefox-3.0
[18:38] <fccf> !ff35
[18:38] <pintook> hello denny thanks,
[18:38] <jereme> I finally noticed the existence of firefox-3.5 in the jaunty repos
[18:38] <colbertj> :-\ there must be something wrong with the way i am doing it cuz the installer says "That I appear to have an X session running, please shutdown all x sessions to install NVIDIA drivers"
[18:38] <jereme> oh man
[18:38] <C_House> I've been having trouble getting Wine to work
[18:38] <jereme> I must have found the popular question
[18:39] <MOUD> thanks
[18:39] <Houba1986> philpem: okay, once that's completed, then what?
[18:39] <jereme> so most folks are just changing the /usr/bin/firefox symlink to point to firefox-3.5?
[18:39] <jereme> and there's no way to make ubuntu do that "the right way"?
[18:39] <pintook> I mean when u click  folder once it opens and not double danny
[18:39] <fccf> C_House: you will have better answers to your questions in #winehq == this is for ubuntu support only
[18:39] <C_House> Can someone help me with setting up WINE?
[18:39] <C_House> ok
[18:39] <casey> what are the numbers for primission
[18:40] <koro> jereme: yeh, that pisses me off
[18:40] <casey> what would 744 be?
[18:40] <j2daosh> how does 1 enable PCM outputs?
[18:40] <Houba1986> philpem: do i need to enter in anything else? or is that?
[18:40] <philpem> Houba1986, have those two packages installed?
[18:40] <j2daosh> in the alsamizer, she hits 'm' on the headphones and it turned them green, but she cant move the slider
[18:40] <C_House> I've been having trouble getting wine to run programs, can someone help?
[18:40] <MOUD> Is firefox-3.5-gnome-support really needed?
[18:41] <josep45_bcn> hola
[18:41] <Houba1986> philpem, yes, they've completed
[18:41] <josep45_bcn> problemas webcam amsn
[18:41] <MOUD> nvm
[18:41] <Inf_lappy_> lolwtf. fonts in firefox 3.5 are f'ed up
[18:41] <C_House> I need help getting wine to work.
[18:41] <philpem> Houba1986, cd ~; rm -rf .mozilla
[18:41] <j2daosh> C_House: #winehq
[18:41] <q0_0p> latest firefox is 3.0.0.12?
[18:42] <philpem> Houba1986, (which gets rid of the profile the "potentially mangled" firefox created
[18:42] <Inf_lappy_> definitely not using the same rendering as rest of gnome
[18:42] <Houba1986> philpem, okay, then what?
[18:42] <Trijntje> q0_0p:no, 3.5 is the latest
[18:42] <fccf> casey: write, read, read ... see here for explanation of permissions http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/s1-navigating-ownership.html
[18:42] <philpem> Houba1986, start firefox :)
[18:42] <Trijntje> !ff35|q0_0p
[18:43] <jereme> shiretoko?
[18:43] <q0_0p> thx
[18:43] <Houba1986> philpem, ummm, firefox won't open... :-$
[18:44] <philpem> Houba1986, go back to that terminal, then type: firefox
[18:44] <jereme> I take it firefox 3.5 just isn't ready for primetime in jaunty yet?
[18:44] <j2daosh> how do i enable the headphones port in ubuntu?
[18:44] <Inf_lappy_> well. back to 3.0. can't stand looking at broken font rendering. it physically hurt my eyes to look at :(
[18:44] <q0_0p> what's the difference with 3.5?
[18:44] <Inf_lappy_> faster javascript, q0_0p
[18:44] <q0_0p> ah
[18:44] <philpem> q0_0p, a few extra buttons on the tab bar
[18:44] <Houba1986> i get The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:44] <Houba1986> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[18:44] <Houba1986> bash: firefox: command not found
[18:45] <mgolisch> Houba1986: did you follow the advice?
[18:45] <jereme> Houba1986, well then it seems you should try typing that command
[18:45] <Cube> lstarnes: whats the ppa for ff3.5 for 8.10
[18:45] <philpem> Houba1986, hmm, guess the meta-package stuff didn't quite work. >> sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-gnome-support
[18:45] <phyton> !help
[18:45] <q0_0p> few weeks ago wasn't there an exploit for firefox 3.5?
[18:45] <grawity> q0_0p: there was, that's why we all use 3.5.1
[18:45] <q0_0p> ah
[18:46] <q0_0p> thx
[18:46] <dew> grawity ty
[18:46] <philpem> huh. I wasn't aware 3.5 was available for jaunty. thanks for the heads-up guys.
[18:47] <Houba1986> philpem: i'm still having the exact same problem :-(
[18:47] <philpem> Houba1986, it still says FF isn't installed?
[18:47] <Houba1986> philpem: no, it installed and everything, but the sites still don't load
[18:47] <judithtgilde> How can i enable dead keys so that i can form accented letters easily?
[18:47] <OpenBluntSurgery> Hey how can i get gnome terminal to recognize by SSH sessions in the title
[18:48] <philpem> Houba1986, I think I'm all out of ideas.... unless javascript has somehow been turned off. but IIRC that's a user-specific option and you can't turn it off system-wide.
[18:49] <philpem> Houba1986, how do you connect to the internet?
[18:49] <philpem> Houba1986, (on this specific machine, not the windows machines)
[18:49] <Houba1986> philpem: wireless through a router, but i tried connecting the modem directly via ethernet to the laptop and am experiencing the same problem
[18:50] <streblo> is there a way of downgrading python 2.6 to python 2.5
[18:50] <lieuwe> hi guys, i am having problems installing ubuntu onto my usb-stick, i used a program called usbuntu to install it to my usb-stick, which works fine, so then i boot into my stick, i get the boot menu-thing, i select perisistent mode and it starts to load, after a while however it gives me all kinds off buffer and logical block errors, i really want to get this working, i just don't know how...
[18:51] <philpem> Houba1986, only other thing I could think of is that there was a bug in the latest FF3.0 update (which went out a couple of days ago IIRC) which is breaking something on your machine.
[18:51] <streblo> lieuwe, have you tried reinstalling ubuntu on the stick?
[18:51] <Cube> lstarnes: whats the ppa for ff3.5 for 8.10
[18:51] <Houba1986> philpem: you think by upgrading to firefox 3.5, it might help fix this problem?
[18:51] <dew> lieuwe have you tryed wubi?
[18:52] <lieuwe> streblo:many many times, i also tried installing it with the built in tool in ubunto but just nothing works, i also had this problem with 8.10 but booting normaly...
[18:52] <philpem> Houba1986, it's a possibility. I was going to suggest trying a different browser, FF3.5 meets that criteria :)
[18:52] <judithtgilde> does nobody know how to enable dead keys?!
[18:53] <casey> how i fix this "
[18:53] <casey> /media/ chmod 774
[18:53] <casey> bash: /media/: is a directory
[18:53] <Pici> judithtgilde: System>Preferences>Keyboard should have a section for advanced options including enabling dead keys
[18:53] <pcbuilder97> is thare anyway to clear out the system log file? mine is getting  a bit bloated
[18:53] <philpem> Houba1986, to do that: sudo apt-get purge firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding firefox-3.0-gnome-support; sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-gnome-support firefox-3.5-branding
[18:53] <crazysoul> ikonia: i know you said it would take min. 8 hours, but it seems to be ready
[18:54] <streblo> lieuwe, there are a lot of things that could be going wrong. whenever ive tried making a usb device bootable, ive used a program called unetbootin, and it works like a charm.
[18:54] <streblo> ive never had problems with it
[18:54] <philpem> Houba1986, that's actually two commands in one, the one before the ; removes FF3.0, the one after the ; installs FF3.5
[18:54] <judithtgilde> Pici I can only find the compose key option
[18:54] <hypn0> philpem, i believe u can have both 3 and 3.5 installed at same time, i do :-)
[18:54] <casey> well
[18:54] <Pici> judithtgilde: I'm only going by memory here, I don't have something in front of me to look at, maybe someone else can guide you, sorry.
[18:55] <philpem> Houba1986, per hypn0's message, don't bother with the "apt-get remove" bit of that command I just posted :)
[18:55] <Cevan> If anyone has a moment... Are there any problems between versions and /home if I did a clean install from 8.04 from 9.04?
[18:55] <philpem> Houba1986, unless you really want to get rid of FF3.0 that is
[18:55] <lieuwe> streblo:i know, usbuntu is almost the same, but it seems to be a problem with ubuntu or my pc, not the way i installed it, because both usbuntu and the official tool won't work, like i said, i already had this problem with 8.10 but with 8.10 it also had bugs when booting live from cd...
[18:55] <philpem> Cevan, you mean if you just backed up your home directory and restored it after the clean install?
[18:55] <secret> /join #crunchbang
[18:55] <casey> what ni do about this
[18:56] <casey> /media/ chmod 774
[18:56] <casey> bash: /media/: is a directory
[18:56] <Cevan> philpem, well, considering I have /home on its own partition, I guess you could say that.
[18:56] <lieuwe> streblo:should i quote some off the errors?
[18:56] <magnetron> magnet: nick thief
[18:56] <philpem> Cevan, Ah right. Reformat /, then install 9.04. No, you shouldn't have any problems with that. Just be careful what you press in the partitioner :)
[18:57] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to redirect all requests to a site, from the normal url to the same url but with  https?
[18:57] <judithtgilde> Pici: thanks!
[18:57] <philpem> Cevan, if you don't have a recent backup, check at least 3 times before hitting "OK" at anything :)
[18:57] <crazysoul> ikonia told me a "memtest" would take a minimum of 8 hours to finish, but it only took 1hour16minutes, anybody got a clue on this?
[18:57] <xFlux> fiXXXerMet:  You mean using mod_rewrite with apache?
[18:57] <fiXXXerMet> My bad, I meant to ask that in #firefox :-p
[18:57] <sebastien> hello, in my fstab, what is the value for 'time' for grub wait undefinitly ?
[18:57] <Houba1986> philpem: when i open firefox, it still loads as v3.0.12, but there's now a program called minefield shiretoko installed... what's that?
[18:58] <xFlux> crazysoul:  8 Hours seems dramatic.....if you only have 2G of memory, I would only expect a couple of hours
[18:58] <Cevan> philpem, alright, thanks. The term "I wonder what this button does" comes to mind... here I go then
[18:58] <hypn0> Houba1986, use a new profile though with 3.5 and maybe try a new one with 3 too "firefox -profilemanager"
[18:58] <philpem> Houba1986, Shiretoko is the codename for Firefox 3.5
[18:58] <crazysoul> xflux: i got 3g
[18:58] <sebastien> firefox-3.5
[18:58] <crazysoul> well anyway, i'll wait for his response and in the meantime run the memtest a few more times
[18:58] <xFlux> crazysoul:  My servers have 48G of RAM and that took ~ 6 hours
[18:59] <philpem> hypn0, I already suggested he try deleting his existing profile (actually renaming it) so unless FF looks in the entire homedir for profiles...
[18:59] <arleslie> Is there anyway to make the games in a smaller screen, I'm on a netbook and the games open in windows to big for my screen.
[18:59] <hypn0> okay philpem , u dont need to delete em though, u can just add new ones :-)
[19:00] <casey> can someone help me
[19:00] <streblo> lieuwe, go for it
[19:00] <philpem> hypn0, meh, it's easier to "mv" the profile directory at a console, then you *know* it's clean :)
[19:00] <casey> what dov i do about this
[19:00] <casey> /media/ chmod 774
[19:00] <casey> bash: /media/: is a directory
[19:00] <lieuwe> streblo:wait a minute, i'm uploading a pic off my screen at the time...
[19:00] <arleslie> !ask | casey
[19:00] <arleslie> !info | casey
[19:01] <arleslie> !details > casey
[19:01] <Houba1986> philpem: weird, i'm STILL having the same problem with the new browser\
[19:01] <lieuwe> streblo: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3241/3749275209_e6802c7055.jpg
[19:01] <philpem> Houba1986, And you're running Ubuntu 9.04?
[19:01] <nsahoo> aren't google chrome fonts anti-aliased ?
[19:02] <arleslie> nsahoo, they made google chrome for linux?
[19:02] <Houba1986> philpem: yes, i am
[19:02] <streblo> lieuwe, this could mean one of several things
[19:03] <nsahoo> arleslie: yup
[19:03] <streblo> it could be that the usb stick you're using is messed up
[19:03] <philpem> lieuwe, I/O errors on fd0 and sr0? those are floppy disk and CD devices, first of each and pretty normal IMO.
[19:03] <streblo> or that it wasnt formatted properly (which doesnt sound like the case if you've tried doing this multiple times)
[19:03] <streblo> philpem, he's trying to boot from a usb stick
[19:03] <lieuwe> streblo: just 1 month old, shouldn't be messed up :P
[19:03] <casey> i'm runing 9.04 and i'm trying to get primssion for some root directorty
[19:03] <colbertj> finally got the driver installed
[19:03] <jennamisguest444> casey
[19:04] <jennamisguest444> do su
[19:04] <jennamisguest444> root pass
[19:04] <colbertj> but that didnt fix the problem
[19:04] <jennamisguest444> ch /dirgoes/here
[19:04] <arleslie> nsahoo, how do I get it, because on the google chrome site, it says its still its only windows
[19:04] <philpem> Houba1986, at this point I'm tempted to go with either "a system library is screwed up" or "your ISP is doing something screwy"
[19:04] <j2daosh> what is the progrma that will allow camming like msn?
[19:04] <grawity> jennamisguest444: In Ubuntu, root is locked by default.
[19:04] <j2daosh> pidgin?
[19:04] <philpem> Houba1986, what ISP are you using?
[19:04] <streblo> casey, what are you doing?
[19:04] <grawity> j2daosh: aMSN? Empathy?
[19:04] <jennamisguest444> uh
[19:04] <colbertj> i wonder if i could manually add the resolution into xorg for the secondary display
[19:04] <jennamisguest444> i have ubuntu
[19:04] <j2daosh> empathy
[19:04] <j2daosh> thats right :D
[19:04] <jennamisguest444> and thats what i use.
[19:04] <j2daosh> thank you
[19:04] <jthomas> hi, i want to remove the last character of each line printed by grep
[19:04] <casey> chagneing root primssions
[19:04] <jthomas> what linux command should i use
[19:05] <casey> i tryed
[19:05] <jthomas> e.g. grep ... | [some cmd]
[19:05] <casey> /media/ chmod 774
[19:05] <casey> bash: /media/: is a directory
[19:05] <grawity> jennamisguest444: By default, all Ubuntu installations come with root account locked and the first user added to sudoers. The Ubuntu way is 'sudo -s'
[19:05] <Houba1986> philpem: i don't think it's a problem with the isp, since 2 other computers running windows aren't having this problem
[19:05] <philpem> jthomas, sed probably does what you want
[19:05] <grawity> jthomas: | sed 's/.$//g'
[19:05] <grawity> jthomas: Don't forget the single quotes.
[19:05] <lieuwe> streblo:with ubuntu 8.10 it was solvable with some weird advanced options(something like simple_ide=1)...
[19:06] <philpem> Houba1986, Only other thing I can think of is the sites you're using are looking for (e.g.) Macromedia Flash and falling over because it's either not installed or broken
[19:06] <jennamisguest444> ya know.
[19:06] <arleslie> casey, sudo chmod /media/ 774
[19:06] <mohraibat> how do i copy file frm a another machine to min using a terminal ???
[19:06] <jennamisguest444> i might be running debian now.
[19:06] <mbeierl> casey: it would be "chmod 744 /media"
[19:06] <mohraibat> mine*
[19:06] <colbertj> dells support site is down
[19:06] <colbertj> strange
[19:06] <philpem> Houba1986, but I'm pretty sure Gmail is AJAX-based (i.e. HTML, Javascript, CSS and a bit of XML)
[19:07] <colbertj> i'm trying to see what model of the nvidia quatro graphics card i have
[19:07] <grawity> jennamisguest444: what?
[19:07] <streblo> lieuwe, how old is your pc
[19:07] <jennamisguest444> i never use sudo
[19:07] <casey> ok
[19:07] <nsahoo> arleslie: http://blog.chromium.org/2009/06/danger-mac-and-linux-builds-available.html
[19:07] <lieuwe> streblo:not THAT old, it isn't beige :-P, don't really know, 3-5 years...
[19:07] <jennamisguest444> but maybe im not running ubuntu any more lol
[19:07] <philpem> Houba1986, if you've still got the terminal open, can you post the output of: uname -a
[19:07] <grawity> jennamisguest444: Then just do 'sudo passwd root' and continue using 'su' as long as you want.
[19:07] <colbertj> does anyone know if i can manually add a resolution for a secondary monitor
[19:07] <colbertj> with an NVIDIA graphics card
[19:07] <arleslie> nsahoo, thanks!
[19:08] <streblo> lieuwe, have you tried booting with this usb device on another pc
[19:08] <nsahoo> arleslie: it's been a month and half, but, today they got plugin (flash) support in
[19:08] <edbian> colbertj: You should be able to by editing your xorg.conf
[19:08] <Houba1986> philpem, Linux Houba 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:08] <lieuwe> streblo:not yet, but i don't really have acces to any pc other than this one...
[19:08] <linduxed> whats the difference between a system group and a user group?
[19:09] <philpem> Houba1986, well that just shot my last suspicion out of the water. there are known issues with Flash on 64-bit x86 systems, but you're running on i686 (which is 32-bit x86)
[19:09] <colbertj> edbian do you know what I would put in?
[19:09] <colbertj> my monitor is a 1280x1024
[19:10] <colbertj> currently it displays 1024x768
[19:10] <philpem> Houba1986, at this point I'd probably start investigating with Wireshark, but that sort of thing requires a fair bit of knowledge about TCP/IP networking
[19:10] <q0_0p> i have problem; binary works in the folder but if i link it to /usr/bin it fails
[19:10] <meho_r> account list
[19:10] <edbian> colbertj: http://dev.gentoo.org/~fmccor/docs/xorg/xorg.conf/xorg.conf.html  <- look here.  The Section "Screen"
[19:11] <edbian> ??
[19:11] <meho_r> sorry, wrong window :/
[19:11] <linduxed> according to man adduser there is a difference...
[19:11] <iibewegung> my weather report gnome taskbar applet stopped working... (somehow doesn't connect to the weather server?) anyone else with the same problem?
[19:11] <massi> canale ubuntu  in italiano vplease??
[19:12] <edbian> q0_0p: Is the link in /usr/bin?  Or is the link in the folder in /home ??
[19:12] <massi> channe ubuntu italian please??
[19:12] <q0_0p> the folder it self is in home but im linking it to /usr/bin
[19:12] <arleslie> !it | massi
[19:12] <colbertj> edbian: that doesnt really help.
[19:12] <cmelo> I just installed Chrome - sweet!
[19:12] <edbian> q0_0p: So the link is in /usr/bin.   Is the link exectuable?
[19:12] <colbertj> my xorg.conf looks like the first one
[19:12] <q0_0p> yes
[19:12] <colbertj> except for some slight differences
[19:13] <colbertj> such as the identfier
[19:13] <colbertj> it doesnt really explain how i can add a resolution
[19:13] <casey> do i need the lost and found floder?
[19:13] <q0_0p> oh the link
[19:13] <q0_0p> the link is not executable
[19:14] <q0_0p> it fails to load
[19:14] <edbian> colbertj: You have a screen section?  Do you have a "Screen1" and a "Screen2" ?  This example doesn't show it but you can add a "mode" line under the screen section.  Pastebin your xorg
[19:14] <philpem> Houba1986, Here's an idea. Try a completely different web browser, as in, not Firefox (or based on the same engine).
[19:14] <Vinceman> is there an indonesian ubuntu channel?
[19:14] <edbian> q0_0p: The link needs to be exectuable.  What fails to load?
[19:14] <q0_0p> the link
[19:14] <Xerran> Hello everyone
[19:15] <j2daosh> what file shows all the failed ssh connections?
[19:15] <Pici> j2daosh: /var/log/auth.log will show failed logins
[19:15] <j2daosh> ok :P thank you
[19:15] <philpem> Houba1986, I'd be tempted to try installing (e.g) Google Chrome and see if the problem still occurs with that.
[19:15] <edbian> colbertj: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d704bf8e1  <- Like this!
[19:15] <q0_0p> i did sudo ln -s swiftweasel /usr/bin
[19:15] <lieuwe> streblo:still in need off help here, isn't there anybody else i can ask? since nobody in this channel seems to know the solution...
[19:16] <philpem> Houba1986, Only problem is, looks like Chrome is XP/Vista only :-(
[19:16] <edbian> q0_0p: You're passing a binary as an argument to swiftweasel?  Give me a bigger picture idea of what you're trying to do.  What is this binary?
[19:16] <Xerran> anyone ever installed Catalyst 9.6 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[19:16] <q0_0p> a browser
[19:16] <colbertj> !pastebin
[19:16] <redsoxking> gal its probably KDE desktop
[19:16] <insomen4o> ins't there a beta for linux for chrome?
[19:16] <streblo> lieuwe, sorry, didnt mean to ignore you.
[19:16] <Pici> !who | q0_0p
[19:17] <diddy> The man command uses the less pager, right?
[19:17] <lieuwe> streblo: i know, i'm already thankfull that you're willing to help
[19:17] <Pici> diddy: it uses $PAGER, which is by default less.
[19:17] <Xerran> any Radeon users in the room?
[19:17] <colbertj> edbian: this is what my current config looks like       http://paste.ubuntu.com/228112/
[19:17] <jonah1980> Can anyone please help, I have some usb problems. Conflicting IRQ addresses I think, I can't use my scanner and my printer is off and on, and my mouse also sometimes locks up... Please help, i'm running jauntyCan anyone please help, I have some usb problems. Conflicting IRQ addresses I think, I can't use my scanner and my printer is off and on, and my mouse also sometimes locks up... Please help, i'm running jaunty
[19:17] <jonah1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/227992/
[19:17] <q0_0p> a browser | edbian
[19:17] <streblo> lieuwe, it sounds like your problem could be hardware related, most likely a problem with your pc. i'm not familiar enough with the boot manager to be able to help you configure things there, but you might have some luck playing with the settings
[19:18] <ViNiCiuSdo_ob> algum brasileiro?
[19:18] <ahz> In Ubuntu 9.04, how do i programatically clear recent documents list? Deleting ~/.recently-used.xbel doesn't clear the list, and the file comes back with the same data.
[19:18] <Pici> !br | ViNiCiuSdo_ob
[19:18] <q0_0p> !tab
[19:18] <Xerran> Radeon users please stand up
[19:18] <Pici> !anyone | Xerran
[19:18] <vr_mex> I need to untar just the contents of a tared directory to a different dir maintaining privileges, if i cd to the final dir and do tar -zxvf exampledir.tar.gz it extracts the exampledir and its contents, bu i just want the contents of exampledir, please show how?
[19:18] <edbian> q0_0p:  swiftweasel is already in /usr/bin if "swiftweasel" as a command works.
[19:19] <q0_0p> !tab edbian swiftweasel isn't in /usr/bin
[19:19] <Xerran> any issues installing catalyst 9.6 on ubuntu 9.04?
[19:19] <resno> I am looking for support videos cards for Linux.
[19:19] <edbian> q0_0p: Where is it?
[19:19] <Pici> q0_0p: Use the tab key on your keyboard.
[19:19] <q0_0p> !tab edbian i tarred the file then it runs from the folder
[19:19] <Pici> q0_0p: dont prefix your messages with !tab
[19:19] <q0_0p> how do i do it?
[19:19] <Padhu_1> vr_mex: use tar tvzf  to view the content
[19:20] <q0_0p> like this? | edbian
[19:20] <Pici> q0_0p: Start typing the name of the person you are responding to and then press tab
[19:20] <edbian> colbertj: Did you see the pastebin I made?  Add a modes line to the "screens" you want similar to what is in my pastebin.  Do you understand?  Here's the link again if you need it. : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d704bf8e1
[19:20] <q0_0p> ah
[19:20] <vr_mex> Padhu, to view the content? does it extract just trhe content?
[19:20] <q0_0p> Pici, sorry i did not know
[19:20] <malladi> a
[19:21] <edbian> q0_0p: If you open a terminal and type "swiftweasel" does it run?
[19:21] <q0_0p> edbian, i assume putting it in /usr/bin it would run in terminal
[19:21] <q0_0p> edbian, that was my purpose
[19:21] <edbian> q0_0p: What command do you run to start swiftweasel?
[19:21] <q0_0p> edbian, instead of going to that folder every single time to run it
[19:22] <q0_0p> edbian, ./swiftweasel
[19:22] <vr_mex> Padhu, sorry but it does not work :-( i need to extract just the contents not see them
[19:23] <fission6> is there any vmware programs i can use to conenct to vm machines for windows testing
[19:23] <edbian> q0_0p: firstly you it is common practice to place the exectuable in /usr/local/bin (cause it is local).  The command would be: "sudo ln -(whatever you had here) /home/q0_0p/<swiftweaselfolder>/swiftweasel /usr/local/bin
[19:23] <edbian> Understand?
[19:23] <q0_0p> edbian, i understand
[19:23] <q0_0p> edbian, what is /usr/bin for then?
[19:23] <edbian> q0_0p: Try it and tell me if it works.
[19:23] <q0_0p> ok
[19:24] <q0_0p> edbian, i will try
[19:24] <edbian> q0_0p: The package manager puts all of it's things there.
[19:24] <morfair> hi, guys! i'm from russia and have bad english! =)
[19:24] <q0_0p> edbian, oh
[19:24] <Padhu> vr_mex: tar tvzf test.tgz | more shows the content with its absolute path. you can extract single file from tar archive like this manner.
[19:24] <edbian> q0_0p: But if you have hand compilied things you should put them in /usr/local/bin.  You can put them in /usr/bin I don't think it will mess anything up
[19:24] <edbian> q0_0p: It's just bad practice
[19:24] <fission6> is there a vmware client for ubuntu to connect to vm machines running windows?
[19:24] <q0_0p> edbian, gotcha
[19:24] <morfair> help me please! how i can write LabelFlash on NEC drive at DVD-R disks?
[19:24] <ibuclaw> morfair, language and idiom shouldn't be a problem, so long as you don't shout :)
[19:25] <edbian> q0_0p: Did it work?
[19:25] <philpem> fission6, VirtualBox will run on Ubuntu if you want to run VMs on an Ubuntu box. To connect to a VMware server, IIRC there's a VMware Linux client on the VMware website.
[19:25] <q0_0p> edbian, pan@laptop:/usr/local/bin$ ls | grep swift
[19:25] <q0_0p> swiftweasel
[19:25] <vr_mex> Padhu, I need to extract all files inside exampledir.tar.gz into say /home/here
[19:25] <q0_0p> edbian, it dont work
[19:26] <edbian> ls -l
[19:26] <drewby> what sorting function does array.sort implement?
[19:26] <edbian> q0_0p: Make sure the link it pointing to the correct place.  Make sure the link is exectuable
[19:26] <fission6> so VMware linux client is all i need to connect to other machines
[19:26] <ibuclaw> drewby, alphabetically/numberically ? One might assume?
[19:26] <q0_0p> ln -s is correct?
[19:26] <edbian> the link is pointing*
[19:26] <q0_0p> edbian, ln -s?
[19:26] <ibuclaw> drewby, which language?
[19:27] <q0_0p> edbian, for making links
[19:27] <drewby> javascript, any browser
[19:27] <edbian> q0_0p: I don't remember.  What does the -s flag do?  ln is the correct command though.
[19:27] <drewby> any engine
[19:27] <edbian> q0_0p: I'm on a windows machine at work :P
[19:27] <insomen4o> how to check which shell is used at a particular moment (bash or zsh)? Is there a command to check?
[19:27] <q0_0p> edbian, symbolic links instead of hardlinks
[19:27] <PROject-Emerald> Um
[19:27] <philpem> fission6, if the server is running on another machine, yes.
[19:27] <PROject-Emerald> I'm having a problem burning a .iso
[19:28] <arcanefoam> hello, I am trying to rescan my scsi bus. I've found the "echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan" command, but it seems to do nothing. Any ideas?
[19:28] <philpem> fission6, generally speaking, most software that says "for linux" will run on any distribution of linux. including the vmware linux client.
[19:28] <Padhu> vr_mex: goto /home/here. then #tar xvzf /home/place/test.tgz mention file name with absolute path
[19:28] <edbian> q0_0p: Then that is correct.  Plus "ls | grep swift" showed it which mean there is a link in /usr/local/bin.  Use ls -l to make sure it's pointing to the right place and it is exectuable.
[19:28] <q0_0p> edbian, ln -n?? -n no-deference treat destination that is a symlink to a directory as it were a normal file?
[19:28] <ibuclaw> drewby, I'm not a javascript programmer, but this page should answer all queries: http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/arraysort.shtml
[19:28] <ibuclaw> drewby, looks to be alphabetical to me
[19:28] <PROject-Emerald> Basically, I insert my blank CD-R and the Brasero CD/DVD burner won't recognise it. It comes up in my directories and it says it's blank
[19:28] <fission6> nice
[19:28] <q0_0p> edbian, k i will try
[19:29] <drewby> No I was more curious if you knew if that implementations used a stable sorting algorithm.
[19:29] <resno> i am looking to make a media center pc, which video is best to use with linux.
[19:29] <q0_0p> edbian, yeah something doesn't look right
[19:29] <edbian> q0_0p: I think maybe you should make a new link without the -n flag.  I don't really understand what it's saying but I don't think you need it.
[19:29] <Slart> resno: I would go with nvidia..
[19:30] <PROject-Emerald> Anyone?
[19:30] <edbian> q0_0p: Also soft links are the default so you don't really need the -s flag either ;)
[19:30] <q0_0p> edbian, i did ln -s and i did ln -l to see where link goes to.  looks like this swiftweasel -> swiftweasel
[19:30] <q0_0p> edbian, ah
[19:30] <ibuclaw> drewby, stable? how so?
[19:30] <vr_mex> Padhu, right but i get in /home/here/test i need to get /home/test/allthe files in test should go here
[19:30] <resno> Slart: is there a listing of supported video cards?
[19:30] <philpem> resno, I've got an ATI card in my HTPC and an nVidia in my desktop. The nVidia is more stable under Linux.
[19:30] <ibuclaw> drewby, I would not of thought that an interpreter would crash if you were to sort an array
[19:30] <edbian> q0_0p: the link is pointing to it's self?  Show me the command you ran to make the link (you can take out your home folder name if you want)
[19:31] <Slart> resno: I suppose you can check the hcl
[19:31] <Slart> !hcl | resno
[19:31] <drewby> ibuclaw: You know, means that elements which evaluate to equal according to the sorting algorithm are not rearragned relative to eachother.
[19:31] <q0_0p> edbian, yeah the link is pointing to itself.  O_O
[19:31] <PROject-Emerald> Are there any effective .iso burners other than brasero?
[19:31] <resno> Slart: ah, thats what i was looking for :) ill keep nvida in mind
[19:31] <Slart> resno: nvidia keeps a list of supported cards on their site.. I support other manufacturers might do the same
[19:31] <q0_0p> sudo ln -s ~./swiftweasel/swiftweasel /usr/local/bin
[19:31] <rocky_> bbl
[19:31] <philpem> PROject-Emerald, cdrecord at a terminal :)
[19:31] <q0_0p> edbian, messedup
[19:32] <q0_0p> edbian, sudo ln -s ~/.swiftweasel/swiftweasel /usr/local/bin
[19:32] <Padhu_1> vr_mex: you want to update your tar archive with extra files. am i correct?
[19:32] <PROject-Emerald> philepm: Won't that make a data CD?
[19:32] <ibuclaw> drewby, I would not of thought so. But I don't know how every language is implemented.
[19:33] <edbian> q0_0p: Is the folder called .swiftweasel?  With a pre-ceding "."  ?  Or is that the notation for /home/you/ ?
[19:33] <vr_mex> Padhu_1, no
[19:33] <q0_0p> the folder is called .swiftweasel
[19:33] <philpem> PROject-Emerald, a .ISO is a data CD image.
[19:33] <q0_0p> edbian, the folder is called .swiftweasel
[19:33] <lady_white> hi everybody...how much o.s. support grub?
[19:33] <edbian> q0_0p: Go there using nautilus.  Right click on the swiftweasel in your home and click "make link"
[19:33] <Padhu_1> vr_mex: i couldn't understand your requirement
[19:34] <q0_0p> edbian, k
[19:34] <philpem> PROject-Emerald, if you want to do audio burning, then IIRC there's a way to do it with brasero and cdrecord, or you can write a cuesheet and use cdrdao
[19:34] <lesshaste> when I go to http://www.izyt.com/BooleanLogic/applet.php it tells me I don't have java... but I thought I did
[19:34] <edbian> q0_0p: Then move it using the mv command in the terminal.  (and remove the old links from /usr/local/bin and /usr/bin)
[19:34] <lesshaste> what do I need to get the applet working?
[19:34] <philpem> PROject-Emerald, the 2nd option (cdrdao) allows you to do fun stuff like hidden tracks and gapless recording
[19:35] <vr_mex> I need to untar the contents of a tared directory to a different dir maintaining privileges, if i cd to the final dir and do tar -zxvf exampledir.tar.gz it extracts the exampledir (as a dir)  and inside of ot its content files, but i just want the content files of exampledir to be extracted to /home/here, please show how?
[19:36] <q0_0p> edbian, thx it works
[19:36] <Houba1986> philpem, i think something is seriously messed up, i tried firefox 3.0, firefox 3.5 and opera, and i keep having the same problem... although it works fine on my other 2 computers running windows...
[19:36] <edbian> q0_0p: Awesome!  Weird though how the ln command wasn't working.
[19:37] <_u2pop_> hi all
[19:37] <_u2pop_> how can i put the gkrellm be removed in the taskbar and show it in the desktop ?
[19:37] <rebanein> I'm unable to add any software. The error message I get: W: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <rebanein> Can someone please help me?
[19:38] <Cube> lstarnes: whats the ppa for ff3.5 for 8.10
[19:38] <edbian> rebanein: Looks like that repo mirror is down.  Can you ping it?
[19:38] <edbian> rebanein: Or just click on the link you made ;)
[19:38] <Guest83389> _u2pop_: in the gkrellm configuration....under General on the Properties tab, check Do Not Include on a taskbar
[19:38] <diddy> Pici, then why does echo $PAGER output a blank line?
[19:38] <ramzi123> my i-sight is not recognized by linux though lsusb shows it , any help how to install my macbook webcam?
[19:38] <rebanein> adbian: No I cannot
[19:39] <edbian> rebanein: I can.  So the server is up but your ISP is lousy :).  Try switching servers.  Do you know how to do that?
[19:39] <vr_mex> I need to untar the contents of a tared directory to a different dir maintaining privileges, if i cd to the final dir and do tar -zxvf exampledir.tar.gz it extracts the exampledir (as a dir)  and inside of it it's content files, but i just want the content files of exampledir to be extracted into /home/here, please show how?
[19:40] <error404notfound> i have a git user, which is member of a group called devs, according to /etc/sudoers: "%devs  ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/svn,  (www-data) /usr/local/bin/git" but when a hook runs "/usr/bin/sudo -u www-data /usr/local/bin/git pull > /var/www/own-sites/demo.com/logs/bitesource-git.log 2>&1" it asks for sudo password for git.
[19:40] <error404notfound> any ideas?
[19:40] <edbian> rebanein: (BTW it's edbian with an "E")
[19:40] <FloodBot1> error404notfound: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <rebanein> edbian: no, please help
[19:40] <Houba1986> i need some help please, whenever i go to load pages such as gmail, yahoo mail, facebook, it won't load! i tried firefox 3.0, firefox 3.5 and opera, and keep getting the same problem. i don't think the problem is my isp or wireless network, since i am running 2 other laptops using windows, and they are not experiencing this problem. what could be wrong?
[19:40] <rebanein> edbian: sorry, type error
[19:41] <edbian> rebanein: Open System -> Admin -> Software Sources.  There should be something in there about what server you're using.  (I'm flying blind on a windows machiine so work with me here ;) )
[19:41] <th0r> Houba1986: sounds like your computer isn't on the internet
[19:41] <linduxed> any suggestions for a name for a group of users that see everything in the samba share? (in a system where not everyone does)
[19:41] <edbian> th0r: Other sites work for him.  He can go to facebook.  He just can't log in!
[19:41] <CP4MX> windows 7 ftw
[19:41] <silverraindog> Houba1986: or its not getting DNS
[19:41] <_u2pop_>  th0r thanks :)
[19:41] <rebanein> edbian: ok, should I just change it to the main server?
[19:42] <philpem> Houba1986, that points to a network or library issue
[19:42] <Houba1986> philpem: so what should i do?
[19:42] <edbian> rebanein: Pick one that is physically close to you.  I think there is even a button that willl find the best one for you.  it takes a while to run though (usually a couple minutes).
[19:42] <edbian> rebanein: BTW I'm assuming the computer is online because you're talking to me via IRC>
[19:42] <rebanein> edbian: ok, I try that!
[19:43] <rebanein> edbian: jip
[19:43] <edbian> rebanein: jip?
[19:43] <philpem> Houba1986, can you go back to the terminal, type: "cat /etc/resolv.conf" then go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste it in, then post the pastebin URL?
[19:43] <ibuclaw> error404notfound, firstly ... put the configuration line at the BOTTOM of the sudoers file
[19:43] <philpem> Houba1986, I suspect there may be an issue with your network configuration, and if wiring direct to the modem works, DNS might be a candidate
[19:44] <error404notfound> ibuclaw, it is the last line
[19:44] <rebanein> edbian: Thanks, seems to be working just fine now!
[19:44] <_u2pop_> why when i install the gkrellm look like this site http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[19:44] <Houba1986> nameserver 67.55.0.11, nameserver 66.49.220.95, nameserver 66.49.220.95
 Just installed fresh ubuntu 9.04, then the official nvidia driver. No matter what I do, I get "No devices detected" whenever I startx.
[19:44] <ibuclaw> error404notfound, secondly, ensure that the user has logged out/logged back in again to ensure that the group permission takes effect
[19:44] <Houba1986> philpem: that's what i get in the terminal
[19:44] <edbian> rebanein: Excellent!  Glad I could help!
[19:44] <error404notfound> ibuclaw, thats has also been done
[19:44] <_u2pop_> there show me not too long..
[19:44] <_u2pop_> why when i install the gkrellm didnt* look like this site http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[19:44] <philpem> Houba1986, no "domain ..." or "search ..." lines?
[19:45] <Houba1986> philpem: nope
[19:45] <th0r> _u2pop_: that is what it should look like...that is the default skin
[19:45] <th0r> Houba1986: but it might not have all the items you see on that page...you need to turn things on and off in the configuration
[19:45] <w3rd__> hey guys is 9.04 code named intrepid?
[19:46] <Pici> w3rd__: No, Jaunty.
[19:46] <w3rd__> k
[19:46] <q0_0p> edbian, i wish i could've gotten it to work with ln
[19:46] <philpem> w3rd__, nope, jaunty = 9.04. Intrepid is 8.10.
[19:46] <edbian> w3rd__: jaunty jackelope
[19:46] <w3rd__> ty guys
[19:46] <GeMiNniS> hi
[19:46] <edbian> q0_0p: Try messing with some files in your home folder with ln just for fun.  Maybe it was just a typo or something
[19:46] <piroko> I'm about ready to kill someone
[19:47] <Houba1986> philpem: any suggestions?
[19:47] <philpem> Houba1986, try the same thing with 'ifconfig -a' (without the quotes).
[19:47] <q0_0p> edbian, im pretty sure it wasn't a typo.  must be the option i did for ln
[19:47] <philpem> Houba1986, this time you probably will have to put the result in the pastebin :)
[19:47] <klenz87> hey i have an issue i just installed ubuntu jaunty and on boot up i got a monitor out of range message on my lcd so i plugged in my crt and change the display settings to 1024xsomething and the refresh rate to 75hz, but when i log out it seems to revert back and i gotta plug the crt in again and change everything is there a way i can fix that?
[19:47] <ozzloy> i tried to connect my bluetooth headphones, which didn't reroute sound, and now my volume buttons don't actually change the system-wide volume.  can i get some direction on starting to trouble shoot this?
[19:47] <edbian> q0_0p: Perhaps.  I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Making the link via GUI literally just calls the ln program so the program is in working order.  It probably was just the flags.
[19:48] <ibuclaw> error404notfound, you could try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/228179/plain/
[19:48] <q0_0p> edbian, i just wanted to learn without gui ^^
[19:49] <Houba1986> philpem: great, one of the sites that doesn't load is pastebin :-(
[19:49] <_u2pop_> th0r i installed but didnt show all that gkrellm
[19:49] <edbian> q0_0p: OIC.  Than that is rather dissappointing.  Well just delete the link in /usr/local/bin and make a new one via cli!  At least now you know it absolutely will work you just have to figure out the terminal commands :)
[19:49] <q0_0p> edbian, still trying haha
[19:49] <edbian> q0_0p: Show me the command you're using?
[19:49] <q0_0p> edbian, trying ln -n right now
[19:49] <q0_0p> edbian, or just reading man pages
[19:50] <philpem> Houba1986, at the terminal: nslookup pastebin.com. You should get "Non authoritative answer: 80.87.131.193" or something like that
[19:50] <c_wraith> I'm running 9.04 Netbook remix on an aspire one 751h.  It has the GMA 500 graphics chip, and I'm using the xorg psb package from the ubuntu-mobile project on launchpad.  After suspend/resume, graphics are completely unusable.  This includes other virtual terminals.  Does anyone have any experience with this?
[19:50] <th0r> _u2pop_: you need to go through the builtins on the configuration page and turn on what you want.
[19:50] <edbian> q0_0p: I don't understand the -n option.  I do know however that I have made links (for exectuables to be placed in /usr/local/bin just like your'e doing before) and all I needed was ln with no flags.
[19:50] <ibuclaw> error404notfound, to confirm that the permissions are correct, ask the user to run:  sudo -l
[19:50] <Houba1986> philpem: yes, got that
[19:50] <andry_> anti virus for ubuntu 9.04 for scan windows files
[19:50] <edbian> andry_: clamav
[19:51] <ibuclaw> error404notfound, that will print all commands that the user is allowed to run on the host with sudo.
[19:51] <philpem> Houba1986, very odd
[19:52] <Xerran> Can someone please tell me the best way to install FLASH on 9.04 x64?
[19:52] <Houba1986> it loaded the site, but when i clicked paste, then nothing happens
[19:52] <andry_> how to install clamav ?
[19:52] <piroko> *^&!@^#&*^!@*&#^!@&*#^!@&*#^
[19:52] <dew> zomg i installed ubuntu useing wubi and have for gotten the user name(must b a typo) can i retrieve the username?
[19:52] <edbian> andry_: "sudo apt-get install clamav"
[19:52] <Houba1986> philpem: it loaded the site, but when i clicked paste, then nothing happens
[19:52] <philpem> dew, boot off the install CD, select "recovery"
[19:52] <th0r> Houba1986: do  you have java installed?
[19:52] <edbian> andry_: That might not be the exact package name but it's similar to that.  clam-av or something
[19:52] <Houba1986> th0r, yes, i do
[19:53] <philpem> Houba1986, in FF, Tools -> Addons. Disable *everything*.
[19:53] <edbian> Houba1986: th0r I think that he's missing javascript.  Not just java.
[19:53] <dew> is it possible to retrieve my user name from windows in a duel boot
[19:54] <edbian> dew: What do you mean?  The user's NAME or all of his files / configuartions etc etc?
[19:54] <philpem> edbian, thing is, JS is integral to FF, isn't it?
[19:54] <edbian> philpem: I thought so.  Unless he has a javascript blocker running or something.
[19:54] <Houba1986> philpem: k, done that, but still same problem
[19:54] <dew> edbian just the user name
[19:54] <philpem> dew, theoretically yes (using Ext2IFS or something similar to read the partition).
[19:54] <c_wraith> dew: yes, in theory.  But it's not trivial, since windows has real issues with ext file systems.
[19:55] <Houba1986> philpem: i tried connecting to a different wireless network that i am picking up from my neighbours, and i get the same problem
[19:55] <philpem> Houba1986, You've restarted firefox after turning off all the addons?
[19:55] <edbian> dew Are you trying to read ext3 on windows or read ntfs from ubuntu?
[19:55] <Houba1986> philpem: yes, i have
[19:55] <vr_mex> I need to untar the contents of a tared directory to a different dir maintaining privileges, if i cd to the final dir and do tar -zxvf exampledir.tar.gz it extracts the exampledir (as a dir)  and inside of it it's content files, but i just want the content files of exampledir to be extracted into /home/here, please show how?
[19:55] <edbian> Houba1986: philpem th0r:  Perhaps he should delete the .mozilla folder just to be sure.
[19:55] <dew> edbian i just cant log in to ubuntu i must have made a typo when selecting my user name
[19:56] <xTheGoat121x> How dangerous is it to use ext3 on an SSD or other flash-based media?
[19:56] <Scunizi> edbian: Houba1986 philpem better yet just rename it .mozilla.backup just in case
[19:56] <philpem> xTheGoat121x, it'll probably wear out the flash in short order
[19:56] <dew> edbian unless its the pass word
[19:56] <andry_> can install clamav with synaptik package maneger ?
[19:56] <philpem> xTheGoat121x, (the journalling that is)
[19:56] <xTheGoat121x> philpem, when you say 'short order,' are we talking days, weeks?
[19:56] <grawity> philpem: I have NTFS on mine, and I think the flashdrives of today are much more reliable.
[19:56] <c_wraith> xTheGoat121x:  If you want a linux filesystem that plays nicely with SSDs, check out NILFS
[19:56] <grawity> xTheGoat121x: More like months?
[19:57] <Houba1986> philpem: i'm thinking i might just have to reinstall ubuntu all together :S
[19:57] <q0_0p> edbian, i figured out my problem
[19:57] <edbian> dew If you google "ext3 from windows" or something similar you'll find one of the many apps that let you read ext3 partitions inside windows.  Then you can just look at /home to see what folders are in there (there should be one for each user)
[19:57] <philpem> xTheGoat121x, More likely months/years. It'll still be shorter than just using ext2, though.
[19:57] <edbian> andry_: Yes
[19:57] <philpem> Houba1986, Might be worth a try, though I wouldn't suggest it as a primary option.
[19:57] <xTheGoat121x> philpem, alright. So I'm probably better off using ext2 on my netbook?
[19:57] <edbian> q0_0p: O yeah?  What was it??
[19:57] <q0_0p> edbian, sadly to say; i "cd" into the folder and did ln -s swiftweasel when i should've ln -s /home/pan/swiftweasel/swiftweasel
[19:58] <Houba1986> philpem: sorry, got logged out, what was that last msg you sent?
[19:58] <dew> hey all. how can i find my username as i must have miss typo it and can not log in to ubuntu?
[19:58] <q0_0p> edbian, that's y it made the symbolic link swiftweasel
[19:58] <philpem> xTheGoat121x, yes if it's SSD based. Only thing about ext2 is it's more susceptible to filesystem damage if the power fails during a disk write.
[19:58] <grawity> xTheGoat121x: I'd say ext3. Flash drives are more reliable today than they were; and netbooks even more so.
[19:58] <edbian> q0_0p: Silly q0_0p.  lol
[19:58] <q0_0p> edbian, so you have to put in the full path
[19:58] <q0_0p> edbian, can't just go into the folder and type in the name
[19:58] <philpem> Houba1986, A reinstall might be worth a try but I wouldn't suggest it as the first solution.
[19:58] <u2pop> what is another tool similar like gkrellm ?
[19:58] <edbian> q0_0p: Yeah
[19:58] <u2pop> i dont like it too much :/
[19:58] <philpem> Houba1986, it's a bit drastic IMO :)
[19:58] <edbian> u2pop: conky
[19:58] <xTheGoat121x> philpem, grawity, well the system folders are on both an SSD and an SDHC card
[19:59] <dravekx_> ubuntu server vs debian server <<< which is better?
[19:59] <u2pop> let me see
[19:59] <andry_> how 2 update clamav / scan files ?
[19:59] <edbian> u2pop: But you have to configure it.
[19:59] <Houba1986> philpem: well, i dunno, you think there might be another way to fix it? cuz internet is kinda useless the way it is right now, lol
[19:59] <arif> kann jemand deutsch
[19:59] <Pici> !de | arif
[19:59] <philpem> Houba1986, I'd be tempted to try downgrading Firefox and its dependencies but I'll be $FOO'd if I can remember how to do that with apt (force a specific version)
[19:59] <edbian> dravekx_: In my extremely objective opinion Debian > Every other distro in the world.
[19:59] <Xerran> Does this workaround still work with 9.04 x64? -->> http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-adobe-flash-10-on-a-64bit-ubuntu-8.04
[20:00] <philpem> Houba1986, actually, I take that back. If memory serves, it's pretty easy to do with aptitude.
[20:00] <adam7> Xerran: you don't need it on 9.04 x64
[20:00] <dravekx_> edbian, should i use it for a server? Im migrating from win2k8
[20:00] <u2pop> edbian configure what?
[20:00] <edbian> u2pop: How it looks / what is displays
[20:00] <Xerran> adam how do i install it?
[20:00] <adam7> Xerran: you can just go to a site that has a flash plugin and a bar should pop down and ask you to install it
[20:00] <edbian> u2pop: There is a thread on the ubuntu forum
[20:01] <edbian> dravekx_: I wouldn't use anything else ;)
[20:01] <Xerran> will try now, ty
[20:01] <u2pop> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe conky 1.6.1-0ubuntu4 [184kB]
[20:01] <edbian> dravekx_: IMHO btw
[20:01] <u2pop> i installed it but i dont seen it
[20:01] <u2pop> on where is..
[20:01] <philpem> adam7, in my case Flash wouldn't work on x64 with multiple tabs or windows using the default ubuntu install. I had to install the Adobe Flash 10 alpha to get it working
[20:01] <adam7> Xerran: or you can do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:01] <adam7> Xerran: that'll do it too and might be easier
[20:01] <dravekx_> IMHO ?
[20:01] <edbian> u2pop: in a terminal: "conky"
[20:02] <Xerran> ty
[20:02] <edbian> without quotes
[20:02] <adam7> philpem: flash 10 is in multiverse
[20:02] <adam7> philpem: and my flash10 works ok with multiple tabs
[20:02] <edbian> u2pop: man conky to learn about configuring it etc
[20:02] <philpem> adam7, strange. I installed Flash using Add/Remove Programs and it installed nspluginwrapper and (IIRC) Flash 9.
[20:02] <adam7> philpem: on 9.04?
[20:03] <dravekx_> sooo debian > ubuntu
[20:03] <philpem> adam7, yep
[20:03] <dravekx_> is there an IRC for debian?
[20:03] <philpem> dravekx_, #debian
[20:03] <edbian> dravekx_: IMHO yes.  But many people here (in the ubuntu channel) probably disagree.
[20:04] <adam7> philpem: don't know about that; on mine it says the version is 10.0.22.87ubuntu2
[20:04] <edbian> adam7: philpem : Check your software sources ;)
[20:04] <adam7> edbian: why?
[20:04] <VCoolio_> Hi, is it possible to blacklist canberra-gtk-module?
[20:05] <andry_> camfrog work in wine but cam dont work will ? any one have idea ?
[20:05] <dew> zomg so i found a way to retrive username and password
[20:05] <edbian> dew: Was it a typo?
[20:06] <edbian> VCoolio: It is possible! :)
[20:06] <philpem> adam7, package name?
[20:06] <vix> i am trying to run ubuntu 7.10 on a 7yr old machine with 256mb ram and its dying, 85%memory usage.
[20:06] <adam7> philpem: flashplugin-installer
[20:07] <adam7> !info flashplugin-installer
[20:07]  * philpem kicks self for trying to find that while SSH'd into a server that has multiverse disabled
[20:08] <philpem> adam7, hmm. interesting. I've got flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.22.87 but they depend on nspluginwrapper and the ia32 libs
[20:08] <philpem> adam7, in other words, 32-bit plugin inside the wrapper
[20:08] <adam7> philpem: you're right
[20:08] <adam7> why is that?
[20:08] <vix> help?
[20:08] <wereHamster> does anyone have experience with kickstart? When I start the minimal install cd without options it detects the network card just fine. When I supply ks=http://foo/ks.cfg to the kernel command line then it fails to detect the network card.
[20:08] <xTheGoat121x> One other question -- I'm going to convert my ext3 SSD and SD partitions to ext2 -- but what about the 'noatime' flag in fstab? Should I drop that?
[20:08] <adam7> I always thought since I was on x64 they'd give us the x64 version instead of the x32 one in a hack
[20:09] <philpem> adam7, because the adobe x64 plugin is still classed as alpha? :)
[20:09] <adam7> but it worsk better =/
[20:09] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: why are you going to convert them to ext2?
[20:09] <philpem> adam7, I'd ask the developer responsible (in this case one of the MOTUs but I can't be bothered looking on launchpad to find out who)
[20:09] <meho_r> vix, did you try xubuntu or some lighter distro like puppy?
[20:09] <superdaniel49_> hey can anyone here help me with setting up a My Space IM Account on Pidgin?
[20:09] <lars_bauer>  /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1: no version information available (required)  ? howto fix
[20:09] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, b/c they're both flash-based media, and I can't have them die on me b/c of ext3's journaling
[20:10] <adam7> philpem: no point; it's classed as alpha as you say, so even though it works better we don't get to use it
[20:10] <vix> no, i was wondering if 256 is sufficient for 7.10
[20:10] <vix> i thought i t would be
[20:10] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: you are aware that if there is a power failure, it may corrupt the disk if you don't have journaling?
[20:10] <c0m3awn> If anyone ever have problems with keymappings in console type sudo loadkeys us
[20:10] <philpem> adam7, it's still only a 2 second job to install it.. one .so file in /usr/share/<somewhere>
[20:11] <vix> how "big" would an xfce install be in MB
[20:11] <Xerran> Is the 9.04 x64 version of Firefox 64-bit?
[20:11] <philpem> Xerran, tep
[20:11] <philpem> Xerran, *yep
[20:11] <superdaniel49_> anyone here know how to set up a My Space IM account with Pidgin?
[20:11] <Xerran> thx
[20:11] <adam7> vix: open synaptic and then mark the packages you want to install, then clicked apply. when it asks you to confirm, it will tell you
[20:11] <jazbo> I have a problem installing photoshop CS4 when im installing it following this guide http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14318
[20:11] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, when you say corrupt -- recoverable (so I could format and reinstall)?
[20:11] <philpem> adam7, xTheGoat121x, he's installing it on a netbook. power failure = not likely :)
[20:11] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: yeah, you can reinstall, but you'll lose the data obviously
[20:11] <jazbo> nobody is responding on the wine channel
[20:12] <syslq78> xTheGoat121x, yeah, file system gets corrupted (well data) not hardware
[20:12] <c0m3awn> Ok here is my question: How do I edit a file in the console other than vi and or emacs?
[20:12] <jazbo> any ideas?
[20:12] <lars_bauer> upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 fail due to  /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1: no version information available (required)  ? howto fix
[20:12] <adam7> c0m3awn: use nano
[20:12] <syslq78> c0m3awn, nano?
[20:12] <vix> looking at lxde
[20:12] <vix> anyone tried it here
[20:12] <syslq78> vix, it's nice
[20:12] <c0m3awn> let me check
[20:12] <adam7> lars_bauer: did you upgrade to 8.10 first?
[20:12] <syslq78> vix I have
[20:12] <syslq78> in virtualbox
[20:13] <lars_bauer> adam7: no
[20:13] <Leoneof`> why Linux/Ubuntu focus on the command line like Terminal? windows is very simple, just double click and it will run, any idea?
[20:13] <jazbo> how does virtual box work?
[20:13] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, then in my eyes -- better safe than sorry. And philpem makes a good point -- power failure is highly unlikely.
[20:13] <vix> ok il chk lxde
[20:13] <adam7> lars_bauer: I don't think skipping versions in upgrades is supported
[20:13] <jazbo> do you like it?
[20:13] <meho_r> vix, will certainly do better than gnome or kde.
[20:13] <philpem> Leoneof`, because some things are quicker at a command prompt...
[20:13] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: yeah, but if it crashes or something, same problem
[20:13] <NewToC> hi, I am new to programming and was hoping to install the g++ complier... any suggestions on what is the quickest and easiest way. I have ubuntu 9.04
[20:13] <andry_> up date clamav ubuntu 9.04 dont work ? ( i have freshclam interminal ERROR: Can't open /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log in append mode (check permissions!).
[20:13] <andry_> ERROR: Problem with internal logger (UpdateLogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log).
[20:13] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: although crashing/power failures are unlikely if you have a notebook
[20:13] <syslq78> NewToC, aptitude install g++ :)?
[20:14] <philpem> Leoneof`, plus it's part of the "UNIX heritage". first and foremost, treat the user like he knows what he's doing :)
[20:14] <c0m3awn> adam and syslq thank you and what are the differences between those three editors?
[20:14] <lars_bauer> adam7: i used the userfriendly buttom in "update manager"
[20:14] <NewToC> syslq78: all i have to do is type aptitude install g++ in the terminal?
[20:14] <OttifantSir> Leoneof`: Linux depends on the commandline because the commandline is so much more powerful than any GUI-program can ever hope to become.
[20:14] <syslq78> NewToC, wait I'll paste you
[20:14] <superdaniel49_> need help Setting up My Space IM account on Pidgin Internet Messaging
[20:14] <Leoneof`> philpem, do you think it will be so hard for newbie? like me
[20:14] <adam7> lars_bauer: did you edit /etc/apt/sources.list at all?
[20:14] <dravekx_> okay... im wiping my server...
[20:14] <NewToC> syslq78: thanks!
[20:14] <jazbo> syslq78 do you like virtualbox?
[20:14] <dravekx_> debian or ubuntu?
[20:14] <philpem> Leoneof`, no, it's dead easy to learn
[20:14] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, that's true -- my main concern is for the life of the flash media. I also read something about disabling swap. But doesn't that eliminate the ability to standby/hibernate?
[20:14] <dravekx_> lol
[20:15] <Xerran> I prefer virtualbox over vmware
[20:15] <popwhk> is fluxubuntu part of canonical or a totally seaprate project / branch?
[20:15] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: you don't need swap for suspend but you will for hibernate
[20:15] <lars_bauer> adam7: didn't now about that file before now.
[20:15] <jazbo> does it work on an old computer?
[20:15] <philpem> Leoneof`, that said, most Linux distributions have some form of GUI (like GNOME, Xfce, KDE) any way, so day-to-day stuff doesn't always require a terminal
[20:15] <c0m3awn> adam7 and syslq78 thank you and what are the differences between those three editors?
[20:15] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: I don't own an SSD, but I've seen some calculations that indicate that you will never use up all the available writes
[20:15] <mattgyver> I have written a script to send email notifications, how may i run a script before the computer reboots to aware admins?
[20:15] <c0m3awn> thought 'd repeat so it'd highlight it
[20:15] <jazbo> or does it hog the system?
[20:15] <syslq78> NewToC, sudo aptitude install g++, that's all
[20:15] <Leoneof`> my USB wireless is not work, i installed Windows driver, i see the light in ON in the card, but no network detected , any idea?
[20:15] <NewToC> syslq78: i found https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/programming/C/build-essential.html on the documentation
[20:15] <adam7> c0m3awn: vim is hard to use, nano is easy, and I've never used emacs
[20:16] <meho_r> Leoneof`, command line is much powerful and yet much simpler. E.g. you download 10 apps and want to install them. That can be done with a dozens of click or with a single command ;-) Which is easier?
[20:16] <NewToC> and isaid build-essential... will that include some additional functionality?
[20:16] <c0m3awn> that made sense
[20:16] <Leoneof`> i see
[20:16] <NewToC> syslq78: should i do the build-essential or the sudeo aptitude install g++?
[20:16] <adam7> c0m3awn: but vim and emacs are also more powerful than nano
[20:16] <syslq78> NewToC, than aptitude install gcc if you want c not c++
[20:16] <c0m3awn> which is why vi is so difficult and not showing a straightforward docs
[20:16] <adam7> NewToC: just install build-essential
[20:16] <syslq78> NewToC, install deb package (sudo)
[20:16] <jazbo> got to go
[20:16] <syslq78> NewToC, install deb package (aptitude install I mean)
[20:16] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, alright. So then perhaps I'm best off formatting the SD card as ext2 and leaving the SSD as ext3
[20:17] <syslq78> NewToC, ah, I though you want to install from source
[20:17] <meho_r> Leoneof`, but you are not forced to use it. Almost everything can be done from a GUI on ubuntu
[20:17] <goli> hey all
[20:17] <NewToC> syslq78: I just want to compile hello world atm :)
[20:17] <sebsebseb> hi
[20:17] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: I'd encourage you to look into the number of writes on SSDs if you're interested; like I said, I don't own one, so that may or may not be true
[20:17] <syslq78> NewToC, c++ isnt very beginner friendly
[20:17] <Leoneof`> meho_r, how about USB wireless?
[20:18] <sebsebseb> NewToC: Python is good for beginners
[20:18] <syslq78> NewToC, I'd suggest python or some other high level language
[20:18] <goli> yes
[20:18] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, I appreciate it
[20:18] <meho_r> what's with it?
[20:18] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: ext2 would probably be fine for the SD card
[20:18] <meho_r> Leoneof`, what's with it?
[20:18] <goli> for noob python its best
[20:18] <goli> ^^
[20:18] <Leoneof`> my USB wireless is not work, i installed Windows driver, i see the light is ON in the card, but no network detected , any idea?
[20:18] <adam7> xTheGoat121x: did you put part of ubuntu on the SD card?
[20:19] <syslq78> Leoneof`, nsdis?
[20:19] <superdaniel49_> could i get any help here?
[20:19] <Leoneof`> i did
[20:19] <adam7> !ask | superdaniel49_
[20:19] <sebsebseb> !details |  superdaniel49_
[20:19] <NewToC> woot helloworld is working... now for some projecteuler!
[20:19] <xTheGoat121x> adam7, yes. It's only a 2GB SSD, so I have most on the SSD and then /home and /usr on a 4GB SD card
[20:19] <diddy> Could anybody please tell me what echo $PAGER outputs on Ubuntu?
[20:20] <lars_bauer> my system is in a unstable condition. How do i install a new ubuntu 9.04 ?
[20:20] <NewToC> so just to be sure, i should be able to complile/run any c++ programs now assuming i write them correctly
[20:20] <syslq78> What is the linux wrapper for windows drivers called?
[20:20] <ikonia> syslq78: ndiswrapper
[20:20] <adam7> syslq78: for wireless card drivers, ndiswrapper
[20:20] <SnakDoc> lars_bauer nothing stored to that variable my default
[20:20] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: that shoudn't be to hard to do,  but what's wrong with it?
[20:20] <Leoneof`> ndiswrapper
[20:20] <syslq78> Yeah that's it thanks
[20:21] <Antrax> hy all
[20:21] <nooneelse> hello people, how can I see with which flags a package was compiled ?
[20:21] <lars_bauer> upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 fail due to  /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1: no version information available (required)  ? howto fix
[20:21] <superdaniel49_> i need help with My Space IM on Pidgin Internet Messaging in Xubuntu 9.04
[20:21] <lars_bauer> lots off programs fail
[20:21] <sebsebseb> SnakDoc: I think you meant to message  diddy
[20:21] <adam7> superdaniel49_: what exactly do you need help with?
[20:21] <VCoolio1> why is this nickserv so effing stupid? How do I recover my nick instead of having nick1?
[20:21] <syslq78> jazbo, it's fine, virtualbox I mean
[20:21] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: ah ok
[20:21] <Antrax> y want to install verlihub on ubuntu jaunty 9.04
[20:21] <Antrax> help me
[20:21] <adam7> VCoolio1: did you register your nick?
[20:22] <SnakDoc> diddy nothing stored to that variable my default
[20:22] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: you went through 8.10 first?
[20:22] <diddy> SnakDoc, same here.
[20:22] <VCoolio1> adam7: yes, it somehow remembers a previous login
[20:22] <SnakDoc> lars_bauer sorry about that sent you wrong thing
[20:22] <diddy> But why does man know to use less as the pager then?
[20:22] <adam7> sebsebseb: I think he's try to upgrade to 8.10, he said he clicked the button in update-manager
[20:22] <superdaniel49_> adam7: i need help with setting up my My Space IM Account on Pidgin
[20:23] <Leoneof`> also when i try to plugin USB to another port, the full System will freez, and two lights in keyboard of CAPS and LOCK is flashing
[20:23] <adam7> superdaniel49_: open pidgin, go to accounts, and click manager, the press add
[20:23] <Pici> diddy: take a look at sudo update-alternatives --config pager
[20:23] <adam7> VCoolio1: what happens when you /nick VCoolio
[20:23] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: you upgraded 8.04  to  8.10 and then to 9.04?
[20:24] <lars_bauer> adam7: i used the userfriendly buttom in "update manager" with text upgrade to 9.04
[20:24] <superdaniel49_> adam7: ok now what?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: as for re instalilng Ubuntu  you  just  delete the partitions on the Live CD and re install
[20:24] <VCoolio1> adam7: nothing (?)
[20:24] <adam7> superdaniel49_: see where it says AIM? change that to myspace
[20:25] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: ah ok, so you were running 8.10?
[20:25] <diddy> Pici, what kind of cool command is that. Never seen that before.
[20:25] <superdaniel49_> adam7: ok done
[20:25] <lars_bauer> But the error was alredy there. I thought i would go away if i upgraded. But a lot off installations went wrong
[20:25] <adam7> VCoolio1: it should change your nick to what you want. if you previously registered the nick, you'll have to identify with teh password
[20:26] <adam7> superdaniel49_: read what the window asks for and enter what it needs
[20:26] <sebsebseb> lars_bauer: I am not sure what your error  means,  but  doing a proper clean install, should get rid of it
[20:26] <VCoolio1> adam7: yes, I've convinced him now it seems :) thought I'd tried that already few times; anyway, now how to delete the ghosts?
[20:26] <adam7> VCoolio1: /msg nickserv ghost deadnick
[20:26] <adam7> VCoolio1: where deadnick is the nick to ghost
[20:26] <Pici> diddy: Its part of the alternatives system.  by the way. I use zsh not bash, so for whatever reason $PAGER is valued here.  Looks like in bash, man would look at /usr/bin/pager which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/pager which in turn in a symlink to less
[20:27] <VCoolio1> adam7: I'm not allowed to ghost myself, so it seems I'm still nick1
[20:27] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: what syntax are you using?
[20:28] <adam7> VCoolio1: /msg nickserv ghost deadnick identifypassword
[20:28] <superdaniel49_> adam7: It's asking me for a local alias under user options and i don't know what it is, what do i do
[20:28] <adam7> superdaniel49_: just ignore that
[20:28] <diddy> Pici, Thx.
[20:28] <adam7> superdaniel49_: but it's the name that will appear in the IM window when you type something (but only for you, other people will not see that name)
[20:28] <Mike_lifeguard> In Places>Bookmarks I have one for an FTPO server - when I click that one, I always get an error: Could not open location 'ftp://mc774915@ftp.novell.dal.ca/' ... Failed to execute child process "/opt/firefox/firefox" (No such file or directory)
[20:28] <VCoolio1> adam7: still not allowed to ghost myself, boy that thing is stubborn
[20:29] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: you're doing it wrong
[20:29] <adam7> VCoolio1: /msg nickserv help ghost
[20:29] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: what nick are you trying to reclaim?
[20:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Why would opening that require firefox and how do i change that to use the right location of firefox or something more sensible (shouldn't it be nautilus?)
[20:29] <VCoolio1> lstarnes: thx, that's clear; trying to be VCoolio instead of VCoolio1
[20:29] <koltroll> Jeez
[20:29] <kebomix> i have Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller   sound card , the sound in windows is higher than ubuntu , it is not very low on ubuntu  ,but i want voice level to be like windows
[20:29] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: are you using /msg nickserv ghost VCoolio1 <pass>, or /msg nickserv ghost VCoolio <pass>?
[20:29] <syslq78> kebomix, a hint: raise volume?
[20:29] <superdaniel49_> It's also asking me for a proxy type, what do i enter?
[20:30] <adam7> superdaniel49_: ignore that too
[20:30] <VCoolio1> lstarnes: the first one, ghost VCoolio1
[20:30] <koltroll> I have eeebuntu installed. If I like the netbook launcher, how do I install it? I've checked add/remove programs but nothing that contains the word netbook there.
[20:30] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: that's incorrect
[20:30] <adam7> superdaniel49_: just enter teh email address and password and click ok
[20:30] <memento> hello i have two screens with dual view (independent screens) and i have the problem with firefox, it show me the error of "firefox already in use ..", how can i fix it???
[20:30] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: use the nick that is stuck
[20:30] <kebomix> syslq78: i did ,  i'm working now on higher level
[20:30] <lstarnes> VCoolio1: which is VCoolio
[20:30] <syslq78> kebomix, volume on speakers?
[20:30] <adam7> memento: did you read the second half of the message? :P
[20:31] <kebomix> syslq78: no , headphone
[20:31] <syslq78> kebomix, you're using alsa?
[20:31] <chriszf> Hey, so I know that mouse and such is autodetected these days, but my mouse is incorrectly showing up as a 'macintosh mouse emulation' thing, and not a synaptics touchpad.
[20:31] <chriszf> Any idea how to make that not happen?
[20:31] <adam7> chriszf: does it not work properly?
[20:32] <VCoolio> lstarnes: thank you, did that and restarted, works again; and thx other helper (forgot nick)
[20:32] <memento> adam7: so? what if i like two open two instances of firefox. is it not possible??
[20:33] <adam7> memento: it is
[20:33] <adam7> memento: you can have multiple firefox windows
[20:33] <VCoolio> right, adam7, thx too
[20:33] <lstarnes> VCoolio: don't rstart next time
[20:33] <chriszf> adam7: All the synaptics features seem to be broken,
[20:33] <lstarnes> VCoolio: next time, just /nick VCoolio
[20:33] <chriszf> Like middle click paste
[20:33] <chriszf> two-finger scroll, etc.
[20:33] <adam7> chriszf: which features?
[20:33] <adam7> chriszf: are you sure the touchpad supports that?
[20:33] <superdaniel49_> do i leave the connect server and connect port how they r?
[20:33] <chriszf> It did before I upgraded, yes.
[20:34] <chriszf> At the very least, middle click paste worked.
[20:34] <chriszf> And it definitely still works in windows.
[20:34] <VCoolio> lstarnes: lstarnes will try; I did right things in wrong order I think, was fed up with it
[20:34] <nicklas_> hello, anyone playing fallout 3?
[20:34] <memento> adam7: i think it throw the error because of the dual view mode
[20:35] <nooneelse> how can I see with which flags a package was compiled in ubuntu ?
[20:35] <adam7> memento: I don't think so
[20:35] <adam7> memento: try running killall firefox from a terminal
[20:36] <mattgyver> Could anyone help, i would like to run a script when my machine is rebooted
[20:36] <superdaniel49_> adam7: Error: Couldn't connect to host: Error resolving im.myspace.akadns.net:
[20:36] <memento> maybe its because of the two independent screens (so i cant drag it from one screen into another), iĺl try to kill all
[20:36] <superdaniel49_> Name or service not known (-1)
[20:37] <trothigar> mattgyver, at startup or shutdown?
[20:37] <adam7> superdaniel49_: is your computer connected to the internet?
[20:37] <nooneelse> mattgyver need some specific runlevel ?
[20:37] <mattgyver> trothigar, right now at shutdown, (run level 6 i believe)
[20:37] <Antrax> how to install verlihub on ubuntu jaunty , plase help me
[20:37] <chriszf> So basically, how do I make sure that x.org is using the synaptics touchpad driver, and not some crazy nonsense driver?
[20:37] <chriszf> Since everything is autodetect now.
[20:38] <c0m3awn> Question: how do you rename a file in the console?
[20:38] <adam7> chriszf: can you pasetbin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[20:38] <chriszf> mv filename new_filename
[20:38] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: mv
[20:38] <chriszf> Yeah, one sec.
[20:38] <H_M-Laptop> Hey, how do I add an alias to bash?
[20:38] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: you could also use rename instead of mv, which does things slightly differently
[20:38] <H_M-Laptop> I can add a temporary one, but.
[20:38] <mattgyver> H_M-Laptop, add to .bashrc
[20:38] <Seronis> lstarnes: different how ?   i've only ever used 'mv' myself
[20:39] <c0m3awn> it says missing file operand
[20:39] <fogus2> hey guys.  can anyone help me use lvm or something to make a raid out of truecrypt partitions?
[20:39] <H_M-Laptop> mattgyver, tutorial? I already looked at it, couldn't see where to add it.
[20:39] <adam7> Seronis: rename takes a regular expressions
[20:39] <Seronis> ah ok
[20:39] <fogus2> I have no idea how to do this
[20:39] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: you need the source file and the target file
[20:39] <trothigar> mattgyver, make sure its executable then  put it in /etc/rc6.d/
[20:39] <nooneelse> mattgyver take a look at this documentation http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[20:39] <memento> adam7: it does not help, if its open in one screen so i cant open in the another...
[20:39] <adam7> Seronis: good for renaming a bunch of files, like changing the file extension or something
[20:39] <c0m3awn> lemme try
[20:39] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: so if you're moving the file 'foo' to 'bar', mv foo bar
[20:39] <mattgyver> trothigar, nooneelse, i have written a script to send custom email notifications, id like to run when the machine is rebooted
[20:39] <adam7> memento: wait, are you running two X servers?
[20:39] <mattgyver> ok thanks
[20:39] <nooneelse> mattgyver it shows which runlevel do what and how can you add your scripts to it
[20:39] <c0m3awn> but i have this file with # on each end
[20:39] <memento> yes
[20:39] <Seronis> adam7: not something i do often but i'll look that up.  still new to most linux features
[20:40] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: try putting its name in "'s
[20:40] <adam7> memento: oh, sorry, not sure about that. I'm not sure it will work
[20:40] <memento> adam7: yes i think so
[20:40] <memento> hmm
[20:40] <trothigar> mattgyver, stick in rc6.d
[20:40] <pepperjack> memento: you want to launch something and have it come up in a specific X session?
[20:40] <adam7> memento: can you drag windows between the monitors?
[20:40] <adam7> pepperjack: trying to run firefox
[20:40] <memento> adam7: no i cant
[20:40] <nooneelse> mattgyver the doc cannot be very understandable for everyone who it's not used to use ubuntu/debian distributions but it's a good start
[20:41] <mattgyver> nooneelse, looks okay to me, this might be the ticket
[20:41] <memento> pepperjack: yes
[20:41] <Houba1986> hey, i have a question... i'm probably going to have to reinstall ubuntu, but i was wondering, has anyone tried opensuse? how does it compare to ubuntu?
[20:41] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: Suse is not that good
[20:41] <adam7> Houba1986: why are you going to have to reinstall ubuntu?
[20:42] <memento> pepperjack: i think thunderbird throw the same exception...
[20:42] <pepperjack> memento: adam7 i dont know if this is what you want but i normally do a `w` command to see the displays and then like export DISPLAY=0:0    then firefox&  to launch on that display.  its also fun for screwing with users on your server
[20:42] <superdaniel49_> a wireless network adam7
[20:42] <adam7> Houba1986: (you're asking in the Ubuntu channel why suse is better; you might want to ask in the suse channel :P)
[20:42] <chriszf> adam7: http://pastebin.com/m64b2c565
[20:42] <superdaniel49_> adam7: i'm on a wireless network
[20:42] <nooneelse> well, someone knows here if there's some place where/or if exist the "--configure-stuff" of the packages ?
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: don't do OpenSuse
[20:42] <Seronis> trying to use the default 'remote desktop' feature in 9.04,  have used in previously in 8.04 and didnt have an issue but that was months ago.  Currently when i use it i can log in and view the desktop but no matter what its not accepting mouseclicks or keyboard input.  have used both nat pnp and explicite port forwarding to set up the network
[20:42] <nicklas_> Houba1986: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: if you want to try another distro and  your  already a bit  experienced how about Fedora 11 :)   or  if not that experienced, but want to try another, how about Mandriva
[20:42] <adam7> chriszf: look at line 361 of that post
[20:43] <adam7> chriszf: it looks to me like it loaded the synaptics stuff
[20:43] <nooneelse> i've been searched over google but didn't find nothing, or don't know what to look for...
[20:43] <Seronis> i've ensured that 'allow remote control' is checkmarked so thats not the issue.  is there something else obscure that people know would cause this behaviour ?
[20:43] <H_M-Laptop> How do I add an alias to bashrc?
[20:43] <Houba1986> well, i'm liking ubuntu a lot, i just thought there might be something better out there that i might try...
[20:43] <chriszf> adam7: Yeah, but why is it _also_ loading this 'macintosh mouse button emulation'
[20:43] <adam7> chriszf: mine does that too, I don't know why
[20:43] <chriszf> I suspect that might be capturing my other inputs.
[20:43] <Houba1986> so i was wondering if anyone tried anything else out that they really liked
[20:43] <lstarnes> H_M-Laptop: what alias are you trying to create?
[20:43] <pepperjack> Houba1986: alias ls='ls --color'   <-- or whatever
[20:44] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: oh  I have treid a lot of distros out in vm recently,   sadly many of which weren't being kept up to date enough
[20:44] <nicklas_> Houba1986: it takes time to find your distribution, install and try them, then deside
[20:44] <pepperjack> H_M-Laptop: oops^
[20:44] <H_M-Laptop> lstarnes, just a simple one.... pepperjack, the problem is that-- The command is temporary
[20:44] <memento> pepperjack: hmm..., but it must be possible to run two instances of firefox (in two xservers)
[20:44] <c0m3awn> starnes> c0m3awn: try putting its name in "'s <-- I tried that however it doesnt work when I type rename #read.src# readfile i get missing operand!
[20:44] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: try mv instead of rename
[20:44] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: maybe try Debian if you want to try something a bit differnet, and Ubuntu is based on Debian
[20:44] <adam7> memento: just curious, why not run one X server?
[20:45] <c0m3awn> brb willreport that
[20:45] <nicklas_> Houba1986: sabayon is my favorite next too ubunt, but you have to find out for yourself, its a matter of personal taste
[20:45] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: also, "#read.src#" not #read.src#
[20:45] <BlueLaguna> ??lts
[20:45] <BlueLaguna> ?lts
[20:45] <linduxed> how do i add an existing user to an existing group?
[20:45] <Houba1986> hmmm, i dunno, i read reviews and saw that ppl recommended ubuntu and opensuse as being the best two, so i just wanted to see if anyone tried both and has any recommendations
[20:45] <lstarnes> H_M-Laptop: usually the same command you use for making temporary aliases can be added to .bashrc
[20:46] <memento> pepperjack: because the two screens have different resolution, so its looks ugly if i merge them
[20:46] <BlueLaguna> linduxed: sudo adduser (username) (group)
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: the best two heh,  uhmmm for newbies,  maybe so,  but  Mandriva is meant to be rather good as well for newbies
[20:46] <pepperjack> memento: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Managing+profiles <-- but that kinda sucks since you really want the same bookmarks etc i imagine
[20:46] <squackwack> I got that google earth linux.bin, but it does not work. You know any trick?
[20:46] <lstarnes> linduxed: sudo gpasswd -a user group
[20:46] <H_M-Laptop> lstarnes, which is /etc/bash.bashrc - Correct?
[20:46] <nicklas_> Houba1986: as i said, personal taste
[20:46] <c0m3awn> lstarnes: ok that did worked
[20:46] <c0m3awn> thank you
[20:46] <lstarnes> H_M-Laptop: no, ~/.bashrc
[20:46] <Mike_lifeguard> In Places>Bookmarks I have one for an FTPO server - when I click that one, I always get an error: Could not open location 'ftp://mc774915@ftp.novell.dal.ca/' ... Failed to execute child process "/opt/firefox/firefox" (No such file or directory). How can I fix this error?
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: and PCLinuxOS based on Mandriva,  the 2009  version not ready yet, sadly
[20:46] <linduxed> BlueLaguna: lstarnes: thx
[20:46] <H_M-Laptop> lstarnes, heh, that explains it. Thanks.
[20:46] <lstarnes> H_M-Laptop: if you're referring to your personal basrc
[20:46] <lstarnes> *bashrc
[20:46] <nicklas_> pclinuxos dont come in 64 bit, just so you know
[20:46] <Houba1986> i guess i might as well just reinstall ubuntu and stick with it, since i've been liking it so far
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Houba1986: you need a good  host,  Ubuntu will do, and then you can virtual machine other distros inside it, with enough RAM
[20:47] <memento> pepperjack: maybe its the solution :) i´ll try it...
[20:47] <lstarnes> c0m3awn: the shell implements anything starting with a # after a space to be a comment, so it doesn't parse it as part of the command unless it's escaped (like \#) or if it's in quotes
[20:47] <nicklas_> but as in noob distros i would have to recommend both ubuntu and sabayon before opensuse and mandriva
[20:48] <dravekx_> can I dual boot ubuntu server and win2k8?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> nicklas_: Sabayon is far to black  by default for my likeing
[20:48] <|Jason8|> sure can.
[20:48] <Seronis> dravekx_: sure
[20:48] <dravekx_> cool
[20:48] <sebsebseb> nicklas_: plus it's not as known as  Mandriva and OpenSuse and PCLinuxOS
[20:48] <Houba1986> sorry, last question... as you can already tell, im quite a newb, lol, but how does ubuntu compare to kubuntu and xubuntu? from your experiences
[20:48] <dravekx_> should I install on seperate drives?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> nicklas_: and Ubuntu of course
[20:48] <nicklas_> sebsebseb: yeah, but its even easier than ubuntu if you get to know it
[20:49] <Seronis> Houba1986:  gnome vs kde vs xfce  for desktop gui.   whichever you like better you use
[20:49] <thiago_> nao acredito q ainda existe icq
[20:49] <thiago_> alguem ai programa java
[20:49] <nicklas_> sebsebseb: everything built in from start, including codecs, restricted extras and graphics drivers and such
[20:49] <thiago_> ?
[20:49] <sebsebseb> nicklas_: yeah yeah offtopic, see my pm
[20:49] <Houba1986> hmmm, i only ever used gnome, but other than desktop, like software support and other features, how do they compare? or is the only difference in the desktop?
[20:49] <Seronis> Houba1986: you can install programs from one in the other without issues so id recommend looking at a skinning / theme site and find out which visually makes you happy and choose it
[20:50] <nicklas_> Houba1986: no no
[20:50] <nicklas_> Houba1986: but, in here please discuss ubuntu
[20:51] <dravekx_> ok, should I install ubuntu server on a seperate drive or the same drive with win2k8?
[20:51] <Alvinware> How to make Ubuntu look like Wimndows Vista/7?
[20:51] <MrHeavy> VirtualBox ;)
[20:51] <lstarnes> dravekx_: a separate partition
[20:51] <adam7> Alvinware: why?
[20:51] <squackwack> I just started with ubuntu. Is it possible to install google earth? How?
[20:52] <adam7> !medibuntu | squackwack
[20:52] <adam7> squackwack: google earth is in the medibuntu repository
[20:52] <Alvinware> adam7, Because of Windows Vista look nice.
[20:52] <squackwack> Thank you, adam7.
[20:52] <adam7> Alvinware: Ubuntu isn't Windows, though. But anyway, if you Google around, you can probably find some tutorials on how to do it
[20:53] <Seronis> Alvinware:  http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+make+ubuntu+look+like+vista
[20:53] <RaBBiT> can anyone here help with a grub issue
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !themes |  Alvinware
[20:53] <RaBBiT> ?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !details |  RaBBiT
[20:53] <squackwack> And thank you, ubottu.
[20:53] <Seronis> ubottu is a bot.
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  squackwack
[20:54] <wildc4rd> evening all
[20:54] <RaBBiT> Ok here is the deal I have 3 hard drives installed on my machine first drive windows xp second drive has got ubuntu 8.10 the third drive has got mandriva 2009 on however mandriva does not appear in the grub menu after installation
[20:54] <sebsebseb> RaBBiT: you can add it
[20:55] <Alvinware> adam7, How to fix the pidgin automatically terminated without i'm doing it, a bug?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> RaBBiT: probably should ask in #mandriva really
[20:55] <RaBBiT> i tried adding he menu.lst entries from mandriva to the ubuntu menu.lst
[20:55] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to precisely position a window on the desktop, say point (10,10)?
[20:55] <adam7> Alvinware: Pidgin stopped automatically?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> RaBBiT: also if you have enough RAM, you can virtual machine stuff,  instead of triple booting
[20:55] <adam7> the_dark_warrio: yes, but I don't remember how to do it :(
[20:55] <cleiton> Ola
[20:55] <RaBBiT> shot will ask there
[20:56] <sebsebseb> RaBBiT: ok  pastebin the whole file, with the mandriva enteries
[20:56] <the_dark_warrio> adam7: any hints on what should I look for? =P
[20:56] <Alvinware> adam7, not stop, but totally closed, all suddenly.
[20:56] <adam7> Alvinware: it's probably a bug
[20:56] <adam7> the_dark_warrio: it's called the window geometry
[20:56] <Alvinware> adam7, yeah.
[20:56] <savid> If I have TTF fonts on a windows box, I should be able to copy those over to ubuntu and make use of them, correct?
[20:56] <the_dark_warrio> adam7: thanks
[20:57] <rapsli> in my file browser I don't have the option to share folders.... any suggestions
[20:57] <rapsli> I installed kubuntu first and then switched to gnome
[20:57] <adam7> the_dark_warrio: http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_6.html#SEC79
[20:58] <adam7> the_dark_warrio: not sure that will work for all programs, though
[20:58] <the_dark_warrio> adam7: I will take a look. Thanks ;)
[21:00] <Alvinware> adam7, what's the Instant Messenger that you're using?
[21:00] <adam7> Alvinware: pidgin, I don't use myspaceim though
[21:01] <Alvinware> adam7, Have you experienced the problem that i'm do?
[21:01] <BlueAlchemy> Hey all
[21:01] <BlueAlchemy> I have a question
[21:01] <dravekx_> Which installation do i use for partitioning for Ubuntu Server if I want to DUAL BOOT?
[21:01] <adam7> Alvinware: nope
[21:01] <sebsebseb> !ask |  BlueAlchemy
[21:01] <sebsebseb> !details |  BlueAlchemy
[21:01] <Alvinware> adam7, Are you using the latest Ubuntu version, 9.04?
[21:02] <adam7> Alvinware: yep -- it's probably a problem with the myspaceim plugin
[21:02] <pepperjack> dravekx_: gparted
[21:02] <BlueAlchemy> ok, using Jaunty, accidentally deleted computer janitor, and when I go into add/remove programs, won't let me install
[21:02] <dravekx_> pepperjack, use gpart to set the partition and then install?
[21:02] <BlueAlchemy> how can I get it back
[21:03] <SuspectZero> is it poossible to run a program as a non root user from root?
[21:03] <prince_jammys> SuspectZero: sudo -u someuser command
[21:03] <adam7> SuspectZero: sudo
[21:04] <oskar-> SuspectZero:  or simply with "su"
[21:04] <pepperjack> dravekx_: well it depends.  if you are cli only (no gui) i would say like sudo cfdisk /dev/sda   or whatever gparted is the typical recommendation for gui and it also supports resizing the HD which fdisk and cfdisk cant (only create, delete)
[21:04] <hatter243> BlueAlchemy, try "sudo apt-get remove computer-janitor && sudo apt-get install computer-janitor
[21:04] <hatter243> "
[21:04] <BlueAlchemy> ok
[21:05] <frantisek> co se to děje?
[21:05] <BlueAlchemy> says it's a no installation candidate
[21:05] <SnakDoc> any of you seen plaxo for evolution ?
[21:05] <BlueAlchemy> but it comes standard with 9.04
[21:05] <deathwish> 76.22.33.55:6697
[21:05] <hatter243> try it with -gtk at the end
[21:06] <hatter243> BlueAlchemy, "sudo apt-get remove computer-janitor-gtk && sudo apt-get install computer-janitor-gtk"
[21:06] <SuspectZero> ty
[21:06] <BlueAlchemy> same response hatter
[21:06] <Samm> Hello?
[21:07] <tag> Is there any way to rotate one or both of my displays to a portrait aspect?
[21:07] <hatter243> BlueAlchemy, try "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update" then that line again
[21:08] <Seronis> Is there any known issues with 9.04s Remote Desktop feature that would make it able to transmit the screen view to a remote vnc client, but not accept any mouse CLICKS (movement works) nor keyboard input?  ports are properly forwarded and the checkmark to allow remote control of computer is properly checked too
[21:08] <shamwari> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WFBYwhYIXlA/SlcgRdBca_I/AAAAAAAAA4Q/ZpHmAdzzNv4/s1600-h/100855-2.jpg
[21:08] <shamwari> damn thats nice
[21:08] <Antrax> make[2]: *** [casyncsocketserver.lo] Error 1  whi this error on verlihub??
[21:09] <Samm> shamwari: Those desktop's don't attract, but sompicity, like the default GNOME, does. it used to though.
[21:09] <BlueAlchemy> done and same response when I tried to install it
[21:09] <dravekx_> Ok, Im going to install Ubuntu Server on its own drive... what do i format the drive to? NTFS?
[21:10] <hatter243> dravekx_, why would you format it NTFS?
[21:10] <SnakDoc> dravekx_ ext 2 , 3, 4
[21:10] <Samm> dravekx_: I prefer reiserFS, but most use ext3/4. NTFS is not fully compatible with linux.
[21:10] <pepperjack> dravekx_: youll need at least 2 partitions one equal to or a little over your ram and the other for the install.  the small partition will be your swap space this is similar to the windows page file
[21:10] <Samm> SnakDoc: Not ext2, there is no Journeling support, vital on a server.
[21:10] <shamwari> Samm:  Im going to use it on my main tv monitor, it has to look good. Its for show not use^^
[21:10] <dravekx_> kk. thanks guys! :)
[21:11] <Alvinware> adam7, What's nautilus intergration for?
[21:11] <hatter243> BlueAlchemy, I'm afraid I'm out of ideas =/
[21:11] <cris_> hola
[21:11] <Samm> shamwari: for me, simplicity is show ;)
[21:11] <BlueAlchemy> well, thanks for your help
[21:11] <BlueAlchemy> my mistake
[21:11] <shamwari> Samm:  I wold have known^^
[21:11] <Seronis> Alvinware: Nautilus is the name of the window manager in ubuntu..  specifically what you are integrating i dont know
[21:11] <BlueAlchemy> I just don't understand why canonical would put a program on their installation that they support and they not let you reinstall it
[21:12] <dravekx_> I have ext 2 and ext 3... which one do I use for ubuntu server?
[21:12] <dimazkecebur> hello
[21:12] <dimazkecebur> i need help now
[21:12] <dimazkecebur> some one?
[21:12] <delly> dravekx_: do you want journaling or not?
[21:12] <pepperjack> BlueAlchemy: you can always do a dpkg-reconfigure <packagename>
[21:12] <Seronis> dravekx_: might as well use 3.  its a journaling file system
[21:12] <dravekx_> delly, yes.
[21:12] <Samm> dravekx_: use ext3
[21:12] <BlueAlchemy> under sudo?
[21:13] <delly> dravekx_: then its decided, ext3 :P
[21:13] <dravekx_> thanks :)
[21:13] <Samm> delly: You obviously want journeling, why not?
[21:13] <pepperjack> BlueAlchemy: yes.
[21:13] <hatter243> !help dimazkecebur
[21:13] <hatter243> !help | dimazkecebur
[21:13] <Travis-42> how secure is the ubuntu guest account?  I know just about anything can be done with physical access (by rebooting and loading a live CD for example), but is it otherwise secure?
[21:14] <pepperjack> ubuntu has a 'guest' account?
[21:14] <Seronis> yes
[21:14] <Alvinware> adam7, Why my aMule speed always below 20kbps for download?
[21:14] <Travis-42> pepperjack: Yes, I can go into a "guest session" since at least this latest version, if not earlier
[21:14] <TheSaintx86> ok i am having real problems
[21:14] <censushq> help...the kernel upgrade wiped out sound and wireless
[21:14] <adam7> Alvinware: no idea
[21:15] <pepperjack> Travis-42: well if that is the case id chmod 700 my home directory because you dont want guests going through your stuff
[21:15] <TheSaintx86> i need to smoke and relax
[21:15] <SnakDoc> peperjack when you hit button to log off or shut down there link that says guest session
[21:15] <TheSaintx86> i will brb
[21:15] <censushq> i tried the steps in forum, didn't work
[21:15] <delly> censushq: then use the older kernel?
[21:15] <censushq> how can i rollback upgrade
[21:15] <Travis-42> pepperjack: yea, but at least a different user shouldn't be able to *change* anything, right?
[21:15] <oskar-> Travis-42:  xorg runs as root and has security holes for sure, alone because of its complexity
[21:15] <whitescene> hhola
[21:15] <censushq> with grub the older kenerl works
[21:15] <delly> censushq: the why not use it? hmm :P
[21:15] <censushq> i dont want to have to use the grub menu every time
[21:16] <delly> censushq: oh that :P
[21:16] <pepperjack> Travis-42: no that is fairly safe i suppose
[21:16] <whitescene> alguien habla español??
[21:16] <delly> censushq: remove the kernel from menu.lst which is loacted somwhere under boot
[21:16] <delly> censushq: and the recovery lines also
[21:16] <censushq> how can i delete from menu list
[21:17] <prince_jammys> whitescene: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:17] <Lunar_Lamp> !rt61
[21:17] <pepperjack> Travis-42: really if I'm at your comp ill just reboot into single user shell and remount rw / and make myself a root acount ;p
[21:17] <censushq> highlight and hit delete
[21:17] <censushq> ?
[21:17] <Lunar_Lamp> !rt2561
[21:17] <ctmjr> !es | whitescene
[21:17] <Travis-42> pepperjack: heh, alright :-) thanks
[21:17] <Seronis> censushq: might want to drop the defaut timeout in menu.lst too..  i set it to 3 seconds on my computers.  and set the guest account to a 10 second delay autologin on reboot
[21:17] <casey> does Ubuntu have a disk check?
[21:17] <pepperjack> !fsck | casey
[21:17] <censushq> where is the config file to change timeout
[21:17] <delly> censushq: I assume you are running default Ubuntu so it would be "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" in either launcher(alt+F2) or terminal
[21:18] <censushq> thanks i will try
[21:18] <Alvinware> pepperjack, What'll happen if i change my main group to root?
[21:18] <prince_jammys> censushq: grub's timeout can be changed at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:18] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: bad idea
[21:18] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: many many problems
[21:18] <delly> Line 19 in menu.lst is controlling timeout
[21:18] <whitescene> tanks+
[21:18] <th0r> censushq: you can change the default value in menu.lst to boot whatever kernel you want by default
[21:19] <casey> do i need this lost and found folder?
[21:19] <prince_jammys> yes
[21:19] <Paddy_NI> casey: keep it anyway.. afaik the system will recreate it
[21:19] <casey> what it do?
[21:19] <delly> after line 131(which says: "## ## End Default Options ##"), you can edit grub lines for booting
[21:19] <oskar-> casey:  it is a special folder, i would leave it there
[21:19] <Alvinware> paddy_NI, How to bypass those password authentication , when every time trying to update?
[21:19] <casey> ok
[21:20] <prince_jammys> Alvinware: don't.
[21:20] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: err.. what is so laborious about typing in a password
[21:20] <kyrgyzbala> wow.so many people here.For the first time here.Hi to everyone!
[21:20] <delly> kyrgyzbala: hello :P
[21:20] <casey> bye]
[21:20] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: next thing you know you will want to operate your entire house with a straw :P
[21:20] <ctmjr> !hi | kyrgyzbala
[21:21] <kyrgyzbala> Thank you very much.
[21:21] <kyrgyzbala> I mean, thank you all very much.
[21:21] <Threetimes> How can I test sites in IE? I tried IEs4Linux, way too unstable. Virtualizatiojn is too slow. I have no other PC to rdesktop to. Dual-booting takes a lot of time. Are there any other options? Anything???
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Threetimes: No!
[21:21] <Threetimes> Oh, and browsershots is also very slow, and non-interactive.
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Threetimes: your only other option is a psyical install
[21:21] <linux_manju> Threetimes: Qemu ?
[21:21] <prince_jammys> Threetimes: check out firefox's firebug plugin. I think it has relevant features.
[21:21] <meho_r> kyrgyzbala, Hello and welcome:-)
[21:21] <obsd123> Threetimes: believe there's a firefox development plugin
[21:22] <SnakDoc> Threetimes virtual machine i have seen ie6 in wine
[21:22] <Paddy_NI> Threetimes: try wine-doors although it is probably a little unstable too
[21:22] <Alvinware> Paddy_NI, In my case, no one's is going to make bad things happen to my P.C. in my surrounding physical area.
[21:22] <derekS> any procmail gurus in here have time for a pm to help me out?
[21:22] <sebsebseb> Threetimes: you use Wine or commercial versions of it, or virtual machine programs, or  psyical install
[21:22] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: that is irrelevant
[21:22] <kyrgyzbala> I am having a problem with amarok, where can I find support? Or do I have to write on forums and wait for someone to reply?
[21:22] <andrea86> ciao
[21:22] <Alvinware> Paddy_NI, Yeah, you're.
[21:23] <Paddy_NI> !attitude | Alvinware
[21:23] <delly> Alvinware: Hello again, and what are you going to use the admin powers for? :P
[21:23] <Threetimes> I'll try firebug first :D (wine stinks sometimes)
[21:23] <prince_jammys> Alvinware: We don't recommend that in this channel, so if you feel you need it, go look somewhere else.
[21:23] <censushq> thank you that fixed my wireless issue
[21:23] <censushq> now for the sound issue
[21:23] <kyrgyzbala> meho_r: thank you!
[21:23] <devil6> Hi I need support for Ubuntu server
[21:23] <censushq> update killed sound
[21:23] <devil6> Some body can helpme
[21:23] <censushq> no volume control gstreamer devices
[21:23] <linux_manju> devil6: Dont ask to ask.. just ask
[21:23] <Alvinware> Paddy_IN, If you don't know, just say it out.
[21:23] <censushq> how do i fix the sound issue
[21:23] <Paddy_NI> Okay, I am going to back away from this one.  Ask someone else Alvinware
[21:23] <censushq> forums advice didnt work with hardy heron
[21:24] <praveen> click n the soonund ic
[21:24] <censushq> how do i get the sound ic
[21:24] <delly> Alvinware: Hello again, and what are you going to use the admin powers for? :P
[21:24] <hatter243> devil6, try #ubuntu-server
[21:24] <Jcn> hey guys. I have an ati radeon x1250 that I am trying to install drivers for, anybody on here that could give me a walkthrough?
[21:24] <devil6> OK, some body can help me: how to install a desktop GUI into Ubuntu server with no internet access
[21:24] <devil6> ??
[21:24] <censushq> when i click icon it says no volume control gstteamer
[21:25] <praveen> how do i run cairo-dock ??
[21:25] <Alvinware> prince_jammys, Please make some explanation clear, cause this's a help channel. un-helpful person get out.
[21:25] <mattgyver> I wrote a script to send email which works,  on reboot i would like this to fire off, I just added it to rc6.d however it will not run could anyone help?
[21:25] <hatter243> devil6, get the Ubuntu CDs/DVD, put it into your apt.sources as a repo and then sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[21:25] <dravekx_> okay. what do I need for a webserver on install? LAMPP? is that it?
[21:25] <brittany> i've installed ubuntu on this machine, now i'm having problems booting vista, it was working before but just makes the machine restart now, is this a borked mbr? how can i fix it?
[21:25] <prince_jammys> Alvinware: WE DON'T RECOMMEND THAT IN THIS CHANNEL. Read it twice if you have to.
[21:25] <dravekx_> Do i need Virtual Machine?
[21:25] <delly> Jcn: on Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:25] <SnakDoc> praveen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[21:26] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok I am using xsane to scan a document in and would like it to be saved as txt and when I select this  i get this " Failed to execute ocr command:gocr: no such file or directory"    any ideas on this?
[21:26] <sebsebseb> brittany: ok what exactly happens when you try to boot up Vista?
[21:26] <epaphus> Hey guys, whats the search software in KUBUNTU called? sigrir or something like that?
[21:26] <prince_jammys> Alvinware: He already HELPED you by telling you it's a bad idea.
[21:26] <Paddy_NI> epaphus: strigi
[21:26] <Alvinware> prince_jammys, Do you know the reasons?
[21:26] <dimazkecebur> Where and How can I install drivers for SiS 3D driver or SiS 671/672?? some one help me
[21:26] <Jcn> delly:  yes
[21:26] <brittany> sebastien, post screen, grub where i select vista, it then flashes white text for half a second and restarts back to the bios
[21:26] <Paddy_NI> !sudo | Alvinware
[21:26] <pepperjack> mattgyver: maybe use /etc/rc.local as an easy solution?
[21:26] <Alvinware> prince_jammys, plain answer wouldn't convince other.
[21:26] <epaphus> Is it safe to remove strigri from kubuntu? how could I perform this?
[21:26] <q0_0p> how do i reset x-server ctrl+alt+backspace dont work no more?
[21:26] <SnakDoc> Alvinware run in root then thats what you are asking still not a good idea
[21:27] <prince_jammys> Alvinware: get lost.
[21:27] <pepperjack> q0_0p: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:27] <sebsebseb> brittany: sounds like Grub has gone wrong
[21:27] <q0_0p> k
[21:27] <dravekx_> Do I need to install Virtual Machine for Ubuntu Server if Im setting up a web server?
[21:27] <Alvinware> prince_jammys, get out,pls
[21:27] <sebsebseb> dravekx_: no
[21:27] <horst> help
[21:27] <delly> Jcn: Ok, i dunno how far the legacy drivers has come(long story short: lateast drivers for older than radeon 2xxx does not support new improved xorg).
[21:27] <dravekx_> kk
[21:27] <linux_manju> dravekx_: no
[21:27] <hatter243> brittany, pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:27] <dravekx_> thx
[21:27] <TheSaintx86> well i can not install eee-control
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !help |  horst
[21:27]  * dimazkecebur Where and How can I install drivers for SiS 3D driver or SiS 671/672?? some one help me
[21:27] <TheSaintx86> i uninstalled eeepc-config
[21:27] <brittany> sebastien, i've run grub-install and update-grub with no avail
[21:27] <TheSaintx86> and then it gives me dkms error
[21:27] <InHisName> Which log do I look at for the text that flows by during bootup of ubuntu ?  I would like to fix some errors but cant remember all the details.
[21:28] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: you have gotten several answers from people in this channel... if you are so determined to wreck your operating system then google it.. We _DO_NOT_ support it!
[21:28] <sebsebseb> brittany: I have an idea,   but first,  I am a little curious, as to why you  want to boot up Vista?   maybe you can do what you want to do in a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu?
[21:28] <Jcn> delly: so what are my options
[21:28] <hatter243> InHisName, IIRC /var/log/boot
[21:28] <shamwari> InHisName:  printscreen?(A)
[21:28]  * dimazkecebur Where and How can I install drivers for SiS 3D driver or SiS 671/672?? some one help me
[21:28] <delly> Jcn: If you want 3D performance than your not in good luck, unless legacy has come along. If you just want video and 2D to work, then the free drivers wokr(and i dunno how to install)
[21:28]  * dimazkecebur some one?
[21:28] <InHisName> thanks hatter243
[21:28] <TheSaintx86> boot xp
[21:28] <devil6> hatter243 I´ll really apreciate your help, Do you have a example of the code-line that I have to add into the apt.sources???
[21:28] <TheSaintx86> vista is shit
[21:29] <Alvinware> Paddy_NI, I said what'll happen, not is it a good ideo, or not, ppl?!! idiots!
[21:29] <TheSaintx86> i talked to executive for microsoft and even she said it was a flop
[21:29] <Jcn> delly: ati radeon x1250 is listed in the legacy drivers
[21:29] <TheSaintx86> they are going to support xp all the way to sp7
[21:29] <delly> Jcn: ok
[21:29] <dale_> I changed the dns on my site yesterday, everyone else has been able to access it pretty much since then, but ive been getting timeouts for a day now
[21:29] <sebsebseb> TheSaintx86  brittany: ideally  and for security reasons, people shoudn't have Windows on as host :)  unless  they treuly know how to secure it properly, which most Windows users don't
[21:29] <brittany> hatter243, http://pastebin.com/m3bd70800
[21:29] <TheSaintx86> but anyway does anyone have a idea aabout helping me
[21:29] <hatter243> devil6, I believe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[21:29] <delly> Jcn: give me a few seconds
[21:29] <delly> Jcn: to write down all you need to know :P
[21:29] <dale_> is there an easy way to find out where the dns is being cached?
[21:29] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: that you will need to google also.. we are not going to discuss *every* possible thing that could go wrong
[21:29] <Jcn> ok
[21:29] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: does that answer your question
[21:29] <dimazkecebur> helooo
[21:29] <dimazkecebur> some one?
[21:29] <andresj> hello, i just deleted a startup application by accident on Startup Applications Preferences. How do I undelete it?
[21:29] <brittany> sebastien, only just installed ubuntu on this box, still got to clean up all the lint and you know what :p
[21:29]  * dale_ I have had my computer turned off and on sine then
[21:30] <user_x> hi!
[21:30] <linux_manju> dale_: Technically no
[21:30] <InHisName> hatter243: "(notthing has been logged yet)"   how do I turn it on ?  boot logging...
[21:30] <TheSaintx86> they really isn't alot in the easy peasy forum for eee-control
[21:30] <TheSaintx86> i need it to work
[21:30] <sebsebseb> brittany: your brand new to Ubuntu or  well Linux I should say, since there are other distros as well
[21:30] <TheSaintx86> doesn't seem to come stock supporting my bluetooth
[21:30] <Seronis> !help | dimazkecebur
[21:30] <devil6> Thanks againg hatter i will try right know
[21:30] <dimazkecebur> ok
[21:30] <hatter243> InHisName, from google - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[21:30] <dimazkecebur> !help
[21:30] <TheSaintx86> and i want fsb and various other controls
[21:30] <InHisName> thanks again hatter243
[21:30] <dimazkecebur> no one
[21:30] <TheSaintx86> i need to be able to control my clock speed on my processor
[21:31] <Seronis> !help | dimazkecebur
[21:31] <sebsebseb> brittany: do you have the Vista DVD?
[21:31] <TheSaintx86> i thought easy peasy came with this stock
[21:31] <user_x> I am new to compiling and so. I found a small programm only 11 lines of C, saved it to 'otp.c' and ran 'gcc otp.c'  but that doesn't work. What am I missing?
[21:31] <TheSaintx86> its just ubuntu 8.04
[21:31] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: Alternatively you could ask your question in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:31] <user_x> the link to the prog is http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/s-pads.html
[21:31] <dale_> anything I can do bar waiting? ive had this before bu its usually fixed after a few hours, not over a day
[21:31] <TheSaintx86> its just ubuntu 8.04
[21:31] <delly> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzExOQ
[21:31] <delly> darn <.<
[21:31] <TheSaintx86> sorry did not mean to paste twice
[21:31] <Alvinware> Paddy_NI, Oh, yeah, most of you guys Google to help others out in this channel! And for that answer, to me it's not an answer suppose to be in this channel, cause i know Google, lol.
[21:31] <TheSaintx86> lag
[21:31]  * dimazkecebur Where and How can I install drivers for SiS 3D driver or SiS 671/672??
[21:31] <Paddy_NI> Alvinware: as I said
[21:31] <TheSaintx86> the deb package does not work
[21:32] <delly> Jcn: ok, then it is to downgrade the x server i guess
[21:32] <linux_manju> Alvinware: Why did you come here then.. Why not google your a** out :P
[21:32] <dimazkecebur> ia have a scraching pitcure
[21:32] <TheSaintx86> i uninstalled the eeepc-config because it gave me the initial problem
[21:32] <dimazkecebur> if i dragging window
[21:32] <TheSaintx86> now i have a problem with it working with dkms
[21:32] <dimazkecebur> it semms
[21:32] <Jcn> delly: what is the xserver
[21:32] <TheSaintx86> but it will not uninstall that
[21:32] <dimazkecebur> the driver
[21:32] <censushq> the upgrade wiped out my sound
[21:32] <Alvinware> Paddy_NI, Off topic, It's shitbuntu/ubuntu???!!!
[21:32] <dimazkecebur> is not instald
[21:32] <Paddy_NI> !ops | Alvinware
[21:32] <delly> Jcn: something on display and grapics and 3D
[21:32] <delly> Jcn: the system needs it
[21:33] <brittany> sebastien, technically i'm not brittany, it's her computer and i've been using debian w/o windows for years :p i'm doing some of the typing, anyway, yes, i have the dvd somewhere
[21:33] <Alvinware> linux_manju, Oh, you guys don't known that answer, oh yeah right.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> brittany: ok well for the  name highlight stuff I have to put in the proper  name, by the way you keep on doing the wrong name when you try and highlight me
[21:33] <dravekx_> how do I install a GUI for ubuntu server?
[21:33] <Jcn> delly: ok so i need to have an older xserver in order to run the ati legacy driver correctly?
[21:33] <nkei0> Hello everyone, I'm using 9.04 (fully updated) on a computer that's been running Ubuntu problem free for quite some time.  However, I am getting an unclean shutdown message no matter how i shutdown, using the normal point and click and also REISUB and REISUO, any suggestions?
[21:33] <TheSaintx86> DOES anyone have easy peasy in here
[21:33] <linux_manju> Alvinware: The question here is DO YOU ??
[21:33] <sebsebseb> brittany: the proper IRC name has to be used for the highlight
[21:33] <brittany> sebsebseb, oops, i'm making tea and cleaning up at the same time >.<
[21:33] <Xerran> Can someone please help me install "Open Sound System for Linux AMD64" in 9.04?
[21:34] <brittany> i know this :p
[21:34] <rek> i run linux familiar on ipaq h5550 where can i get ubuntu arm? i know there's a distro
[21:34] <ikonia> dravekx_: if you need a gui for your server, you may consider actually using the ubuntu desktop install - it makes a great server and is suited for home hardware
[21:34] <brittany> i normally don't use xchat
[21:34] <SnakDoc> dravekx_ ubuntu server not ment to have gui if you have gui then its desktop but sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should take care of it
[21:34] <delly> Jcn: yupp, or you could use the opensource driver. I dunno if it is installed upon install Ubuntu how it is
[21:34] <brittany> anyway
[21:34] <rek> ogra:  hello
[21:34] <Seronis> Alvinware: its not a case of knowing or not.  its a case of you wanted to know how to automate entering a root password.  no one will give that info because there is no valid case for its use by someone not already profecient enough to know the answer
[21:34] <dimazkecebur> bugh
[21:34] <Jcn> delly: and also what about envyng?
[21:34] <sebsebseb> brittany: as I already asked, but you may have missed it, do you have the Vista DVD?
[21:34] <ikonia> !envyng | Jcn
[21:35] <dimazkecebur> no some one know the driver 3D driver or SiS 671/672
[21:35] <ikonia> dravekx_: sis cards have terrible support as video cards,
[21:35] <ikonia> dravekx_: sorry not you
[21:35] <linux_manju> Alvinware: A hint .. Perll Net::SSH module
[21:35] <dimazkecebur> wew
[21:35] <ikonia> dimazkecebur: ^
[21:35] <Pricey> ikonia: is it just 'savage' or something? i can't remember
[21:35] <brittany> sebsebseb, i appended one of my lines with 'yes i have the dvd' guessing you want me to find it? is it an mbr issue do you think?
[21:35] <Seronis> dimazkecebur: if no one answered,  no one currently here (and not afk) knows the answer.  leave your connection logged in and someone might reply, and try asking again in a half hour
[21:35] <ikonia> Pricey: savage is S3
[21:35] <dimazkecebur> hmm i see
[21:35]  * linux_manju s/Perll/perl/g
[21:35] <ikonia> Pricey: chomium is the SIS
[21:35] <delly> Jcn: I am sad to say so, but i got no clue <.<
[21:35] <dimazkecebur> but the chipset its says
[21:36] <dimazkecebur> sis
[21:36] <Pricey> ikonia: oh
[21:36] <nkei0> Anyone here have any experience with unclean shutdown errors?
[21:36] <sapi3nt> Hello when I boot the system, without seeing grub, windows is starting... fdisk -l output : http://pastebin.com/m190c00d1  and  menu.lst : http://pastebin.com/m734aa84e. Can anyone explain whats the reason of that?
[21:36] <delly> Jcn: If there was a working legacy driver this would have been over already after some nifty copy-paste <.<
[21:36] <sebsebseb> brittany: what you can do, is  let   Vista's  DVD  fixitself,  then it will go over Grub,  and then you can restore Grub yourself,  which may be a ltitle tricky
[21:36] <ikonia> dimazkecebur: SIS cards have poor Xorg support, you need to know exactly what chipset
[21:36] <sebsebseb> !grub |  brittany
[21:36] <dimazkecebur> but the chipset 3D driver or SiS 671/672??
[21:36] <Jcn> delly: well I am not convinced that there is nothing I can do, thanks for your help though
[21:36] <Samm> sapi3nt: it may be that GRUB didn't overwrite the WIndows booter.
[21:36] <ikonia> dimazkecebur: hang on a moment
[21:36] <dimazkecebur> ok
[21:36]  * dimazkecebur iam wait
[21:37] <dravekx> is there a way to setup remote login with ubuntu server?
[21:37] <prince_jammys> !ssh | dravekx
[21:37] <censushq> the kernel upgrade killed my sound card
[21:37] <brittany> sebsebseb, so, vista will fix itself, then i'll do a grub-install?
[21:37] <linux_manju> dravekx: What do you mean by remote login.. SSH does not work?
[21:37] <sapi3nt> Samm: So what should I do ?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> brittany: on  the other hand,  maybe you don't need Windows on a psycial boot anymore, depending on what you want to use your computer for
[21:37] <censushq> the forum solutions dont work on hardy heron
[21:38] <dravekx> man. I need some serious help.. 1on1 I guess.
[21:38] <brittany> sebsebseb, the misses (Brittany) insists on windows, i'm converting her slowly ;)
[21:38] <Samm> sapi3nt: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:38] <sebsebseb> brittany: Microsoft don't exactly like other OS's, so they make sure that when Windows is re installed, or when people  do the fix thing,   that the  MBR  gets overwritten with the Windows boot loader
[21:38] <Samm> sapi3nt: or read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:39] <dravekx> i dont know what SSH is
[21:39] <ikonia> dimazkecebur: there is an xorg-sis package which may work, but reading the notes on it - it will be a reasonable ammount of luck / bad luck if it works or not, the support seems hit and miss for very specific models, 2d support seems very poor
[21:39] <sebsebseb> brittany: yes I understand, but maybe she can  virtual machine it happiley inside Ubuntu :)
[21:39] <sebsebseb> brittany: depending on how much RAM the computer has,  and  what she wants to use it for
[21:39]  * dimazkecebur wew
[21:39] <rek> anyone can help me to set the wifi?
[21:39] <dimazkecebur> so what i must to do
[21:39] <ikonia> !info xserver-video-sis671
[21:39] <prince_jammys> dravekx: how about reading the guide linked to above? ssh enables you to remotely login to another machine.
[21:39] <sebsebseb> brittany: if you want to change your name you can do   /knick  and type in a new name
[21:39] <linux_manju> dravekx: No one on 1 .. For you may be a solution would be.. aptitude install ssh followed by invoke-rc.d ssh restart and ssh IP address of the server from a remote machine ( If windows use putty )
[21:39] <dravekx> thx prince. Im reading
[21:39] <censushq> alvinware: try grub menu
[21:39] <ikonia> dimazkecebur: open synaptic or your package manager and search for sis - you should see an xorg package
[21:40] <censushq> the update killed my wifi, came back with grub
[21:40] <brittany> sebsebseb, i will migrate that way soon, it's a 2gb computer with a core 2 duo proc, it's the hdd that's full of balls
[21:40] <Jcn> Anyone here know hot to install legacy drivers for ati radeon x1250
[21:40] <dimazkecebur> hmm
[21:40] <censushq> now if i can get my sound working....
[21:40] <dimazkecebur> should be i must downgrade the ubuntu version?
[21:40] <Seronis> is there any difference between typing 'aptitude' and  'apt-get'  ?
[21:40] <brittany> sebsebseb, nah, my other clients are signed in under my nickname, i don't care to ghost them :p
[21:40] <sebsebseb> brittany: such as?  and  as long as Windows was shut down properly, you can  access it from Ubuntu, and start moving stuff over to Ubuntu
[21:40] <ikonia> dimazkecebur: why would that change anything ?
[21:40] <Samm> Seronis: I want to know too ;)
[21:41] <dimazkecebur> ok i will traying now
[21:41] <brittany> sebsebseb, still weaning her off itunes, managed office and etc, she likes her ipod though :c
[21:41] <epaphus> Is it safe to remove strigri from kubuntu? how could I perform this?
[21:41] <prince_jammys> Seronis: they are separate programs that manage packages. aptitude even has a text-mode interface. try 'aptitude' on its own (sudo not necessary if you're not changing anything)
[21:41] <sebsebseb> brittany: Itunes in a Windows virtual machine should work
[21:41] <sebsebseb> brittany: in fact maybe Wine even these days
[21:41] <brittany> but atm i don't have enough space for a vm, like 5gb spare over the whole hdd
[21:41] <linux_manju> brittany: Why not use gtkpod ?
[21:42] <Seronis> prince_jammys: will do when i get home.  stuck on xp laptop currently (at work).   I just wasnt sure if they were aliases for each other as i thought 'apt-get' was the aptitude package manager
[21:42] <Jcn> Anyone here know hot to install legacy drivers for ati radeon x1250
[21:43] <sebsebseb> brittany: move stuff over to Ubuntu :)   get rid of Windows on there,  do it in a virtual machine, and if for whatever reason there is some reason to put it back on again,   you can re install Vista psyically as well
[21:43] <RaBBiT> which ubuntu 9 is the lts?
[21:43] <ikonia> RaBBiT: none
[21:43] <Samm> Jcn: System>Administration>Hardware Drivers is worth a try.
[21:43] <prince_jammys> Seronis: no, they are different. aptitude has many features that apt-get doesn't have. But it's more recent. I think things are gradually moving to where aptitude becomes the main text-mode package manager.
[21:43] <ikonia> RaBBiT: 8.04 is the latest lts release
[21:43] <RaBBiT> so only 8.04 is lts?
[21:43] <Samm> Jcn: if that doesn't work, I don't know.
[21:43] <RaBBiT> okay
[21:43] <brittany> sebsebseb, that's the plan, linux_manju, that's the long term goal
[21:43] <brittany> it's more of a mental thing than a reality methinks
[21:44] <Jcn> Samm: when I go there I don't any options past a generic atheros driver for madwifi
[21:44] <Samm> ikonia: do you know the next Lts?
[21:44] <Jcn> Samm: do you know how to update that list?
[21:44] <prince_jammys> Seronis: they are both front-ends of dpkg.
[21:44] <delly> RaBBiT: 9.10 will be LTS
[21:44] <ikonia> Samm: 10.04 or 10.10 ?
[21:44] <Samm> Jcn: Then I don't know, I'm not good with display drivers. ask again.
[21:44] <ikonia> delly: you sure ?
[21:44] <brittany> right, time to give vista a chance to fix itself
[21:44] <ikonia> !lts
[21:44] <Jcn> Anyone here know hot to install legacy drivers for ati radeon x1250
[21:44] <sebsebseb> brittany: yep
[21:44] <brittany> i'll wander in with my real identity soon :p
[21:44] <sebsebseb> brittany: or maybe
[21:44] <censushq> how do i recover from the sound error "no volume control or gstreams
[21:44] <Seronis> prince_jammys: so since they are both front ends for dpkg, installing from one and removing from the other wont cause any conflicts, right ?  (my primary concern)
[21:44] <Samm> thanks ikonia.
[21:44] <delly> ikonia: ive read so.... so that ought to be true :P
[21:44] <sebsebseb> brittany: someone will know how to fix the Grub issue you ahd
[21:45] <sebsebseb> brittany: without doing my suggestion
[21:45] <delly> damn it <.<
[21:45] <censushq> forums say to install alsa package
[21:45] <sebsebseb> brittany: repeate that issue,  it's worth a try again, there may be someone here with an idea on how to fix it
[21:45] <censushq> doing that now
[21:45] <Jcn> Anyone here know hot to install legacy drivers for ati radeon x1250
[21:45] <prince_jammys> Seronis: At one point, there used to be a bug with automatically installed packages. That's gone now, I think, so using aptitude should be fine.
[21:45] <Seronis> prince_jammys: ty
[21:45] <prince_jammys> Seronis: I use aptitude exclusively. It's a nice program.
[21:46] <linux_manju> Seronis: I use both aptitude and wajig ( wajig on my desktop and for servers aptitude )
[21:46] <dravekx> do I stay logged into the ubuntu server and leave my user logged in?
[21:46] <dravekx> or do I log out?
[21:46] <Samm> !info wajig
[21:46] <dravekx> I have putty working :)
[21:46] <qe2eqe> !xdmx is superbroken
[21:46] <ikonia> dravekx: leaving yourself logged in is never a good idea
[21:47] <Jcn> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOT INSTALL DRIVERS HERE
[21:47] <linux_manju> dravekx: man screen
[21:47] <ikonia> Jcn: calm down please
[21:47] <Jcn> How*
[21:47] <ikonia> Jcn: there is no need for caps
[21:47] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | jcn
[21:47] <delly> Jcn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver My nift random searching might help <.<
[21:47] <ikonia> !ati > Jcn
[21:47] <Seronis> jcn: if someone -knows- the answer and is -not afk- they will answer.  if no one answers then wait a half hour and ask again, or just leave your client connected and someone might answer later
[21:48] <Samm> linux_manju: what advantages does wajig have over apt-get or aptitude?
[21:48] <bucky> Samm: less typing on the keyboard than with apt-get
[21:48] <TheSaintx86> will someone help me please
[21:49] <linux_manju> Samm: Well.. ntohing.. in particular.. As a matter of fact.. I dont see anything that wajig does but aptitude does not
[21:49] <TheSaintx86> this will not work and googling is not helping
[21:49] <sebsebseb> TheSaintx86: with what?
[21:49] <bucky> more functionality
[21:49] <Dekko> Hello everybody! I tried installing a blue Ubuntu 'usplash' with the help of a guide on the Ubuntu forums and now my usplash is broken.... does not display anymore. And if I do 'sudo usplash' to test it, I get a black screen.... how do I revert back to the ORIGINAL again? As it is when you install Ubuntu clean???
[21:49] <qe2eqe> Is it possible to create a screen in xorg.conf, that's xinerama aware, but not actually used on a local  graphics adapter?
[21:49] <linux_manju> Samm: Just that I like using wajig more
[21:49] <prince_jammys> TheSaintx86: give full details of your problem, and someone will help/
[21:49] <TheSaintx86> i can not seem to partition anything where i can save data on it
[21:49] <TheSaintx86> i can not get eeepc-control to work
[21:49] <rek> anyone can help me?
[21:49] <TheSaintx86> i can not get world book network drive too work
[21:49] <ortsvorsteher> !details | TheSaintx86
[21:49] <Samm> linux-manju: is wajig a interface (as in aptitude) or just a command (apt-get).
[21:49] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  rek
[21:50] <linux_manju> Samm: Command line
[21:50] <Jaesin> where do i go for ubuntu 64 bit questions?
[21:50] <epaphus> Hello, could anybody tell me how to remove strigri  ?? Is it safe to remove it?
[21:50] <sebsebseb> Jaesin: here
[21:50] <qe2eqe> TheSaintx86, you partitioned, but did you mkfs?
[21:50] <Samm> linux_manju: thanks. I'll have to try it out.
[21:50] <Vinceman> any Evolution users here? I'd like to know how to set a spam filter
[21:50] <sebsebseb> Jaesin: or  http://www.ubuntuforms.org
[21:50] <linux_manju> Samm: Spend sometime with it you will start loving it
[21:50] <sebsebseb> Jaesin: uh  that's forums in the link rather than forms
[21:50] <Jaesin> ok, i need help installing a 32 bit printer driver on 64 jaunty
[21:50] <Samm> linux_manju: if I install the package, will it use my apready sources.list and migrate from apt-get, or no?
[21:50] <linux_manju> Samm: Yes
[21:51] <sebsebseb> Jaesin: http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[21:51] <Samm> linux_manju: sweet 8-)
[21:51] <Dekko> can anyone please help me or point me in the right direction
[21:51] <Dekko> !usplash
[21:51] <Jaesin> ive posted my problem, but cant seem to find anyone who can help me get it to work
[21:52] <Patric7> Is there any way to reinitialize a PCMCIA card from the command line ?  After coming out of suspend, I need to eject and reinsert my wireless PCMCIA network card in order for Ubuntu to join wireless networks.  If I could skip the "eject/reinsert" stage (and replace this with a workaround) this would help.
[21:52] <TheSaintx86> I am running ubuntu 8.04 freshly installed.  I downloaded package for eeepc-control. Upon initial install of it I was presented with problem entitled eeepc-config would not allow it.  Uninstalled that file.  Now I am presented with problem installing again because it says that dkms will not allow it.
[21:52] <TheSaintx86> i just want that fixed first
[21:52] <bucky> Samm: there's no migration.. it's just a python front end to dpkg.. just like apt-get is a perl front end to dpkg basically.  apt-get remove wajig if you don't like it  :  wajig commands for the 100 or so commands available
[21:52] <TheSaintx86> mkdr sounds like simple problem
[21:52] <linux_manju> Patric7: cardctl help .. I guess..
[21:52] <ghostkni1e> Can someone please check if they can FTP into: ubuntu-archive.mirror.ac.za
[21:52] <Samm> bucky: could I just dpkg?
[21:52] <linux_manju> Patric7: Used along time ago.. dont remeber the command
[21:52] <dravekx> why cant i login remotely after Ive logged out on the server?
[21:53] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: why ?
[21:53] <TheSaintx86> my version of ubuntu 8.04 is easy peasy btw
[21:53] <Samm> bucky: or is it a lot harder and less simplified?
[21:53] <bucky> Samm: dpkg is not internet enabled on it's own
[21:53] <qe2eqe> TheSaintx86, you're using sudo, right?
[21:53] <dravekx> nvm I got it
[21:53] <TheSaintx86> yes
[21:53] <Samm> bucky:  oh, thanks.
[21:53] <TheSaintx86> i tried compiling it and it would not work
[21:53] <linux_manju> Patric7: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/man/cardctl.8.html
[21:53] <TheSaintx86> so i am using the package deb
[21:53] <Lord-Readman> When i loginto my server to says 11 packages can be updated.22 updates are security updates. but I type, apt-get update, and aptitude safe-upgrade, and says 0 is to update? please help.
[21:53] <bucky> Samm: it really doesn't get any easier than synaptic in your System=>Administration
[21:53] <ikonia> Lord-Readman: just do an apt-get upgrade
[21:54] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: because not me or anyone else I know can
[21:54] <Lord-Readman> ikonia 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:54] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: so there you go then, contact the server maintainer, or use another mirror
[21:54] <Lord-Readman> :-S
[21:54] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: though we can't resolve the IPs either, and people from america seem to be able to resolve the IPs
[21:54] <Samm> bucky: terminal is easier for me than going through and finding my packages and double clicking, and waiting for a search to complete. terminal is straightforward.
[21:54] <ikonia> Lord-Readman: do an apt-get update again see what it says
[21:54] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: it's a simple request
[21:54] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: you + others can't do it - there you go
[21:54] <TheSaintx86> what i am trying can  be found here http://greg.geekmind.org/eee-control/#download
[21:54] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: i'm trying to see what I should tell the administrator when I contact him
[21:54] <Lord-Readman> ikonia, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:54] <dravekx> Ubuntu Server SSH will not allow me to login remotely with putty unless Im logged in on the server. why?
[21:55] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: "me and my friends can't log in via ftp"
[21:55] <TheSaintx86> what logical conclusion do you come too?
[21:55] <ikonia> dravekx: you can login as many times as you want - within reason
[21:55] <Jaesin> so how do get a 32 bit driver installed on 64 bit?
[21:55] <linux_manju> dravekx: You are loggin in as which user?
[21:55] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: well, if I can tell him that south africa can't resolve, but other countries can, and I can connect to the following IPs, but I can't to these, but again, people in other countries can, it can help him find the problem much easier
[21:55] <dravekx> linux_manju, the main user, not root
[21:55] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: you didn't say you couldn't resolve it - you said you can't get in
[21:56] <TheSaintx86> there are too many people here
[21:56] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: simple request, in the time I asked this you could have tried connecting and given me an answer
[21:56] <RaBBiT> I am having problems with the ubuntu mirrors in Sa at the moment
[21:56] <linux_manju> dravekx: Thats a weird problem..
[21:56] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: I did say I can't resolve it, check a bit upwards
[21:56] <TheSaintx86> this is one big cluster fuck
[21:56] <dravekx> but it tells me network timeout, unless I login on the server.. then it logs in remotely just fine.
[21:56] <ikonia> TheSaintx86: control your language please
[21:56] <SmallR2002> sebsebseb, and this is the real me
[21:56] <Samm> What is the difference between gksu and sudo?
[21:56] <linux_manju> dravekx: what do you see in tail -f /var/log/auth.log
[21:56] <ghostkni1e> just 1/2 posts after my initial
[21:56] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: so the question is - can anyone resolve it, not login via ftp
[21:56] <sebsebseb> SmallR2002: ok did you do the DVD thing, and now only Vista boots up?
[21:56] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: I have already answered the resolve question, international can resolve it, I'm trying to determine if the same counts for ftp
[21:57] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: so my question is if anyone can access it via ftp
[21:57] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: I can resolve it
[21:57] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: I know
[21:57] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: if you can't resolve it - that's nothing to do with ftp
[21:57] <dravekx> linux_manju... Im in :) ill look real fast
[21:57] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: well, I can't login via FTP either
[21:57] <dethredic> Hey guys, what is the command to make a virtual link of a file or folder?
[21:57] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: contact the server administrator
[21:57] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: so my question remains, can you access it via ftp?
[21:57] <dethredic> sorta like a shortcut
[21:57] <linux_manju> dethredic: ln -s
[21:57] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: just contact the server admin - this isn't an ubuntu support request
[21:57] <prince_jammys> dethredic: ln.  ln -s makes symbolic links
[21:57] <SmallR2002> sebsebseb, turns out the disk i have isn't actually the windows installer >.<
[21:58] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: dammit it's such a simple request, please ignore me
[21:58] <ryg> how can i recharge my motorola in ubuntu?
[21:58] <dethredic> thanks
[21:58] <sebsebseb> SmallR2002: what is it then?
[21:58] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: if you don't know how to ftp, why bother answering me?
[21:58] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: please stop asking - this is not an ubuntu support request, the server admin is responsible for it
[21:58] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: don't make silly requests, I'm more than capable of ftp'ing
[21:58] <dravekx> I got this: Unbuntu Server Software caused a Network Error
[21:58] <SmallR2002> sebsebseb, some dell utills thing
[21:58] <ghostkni1e> ikonia: so they all say
[21:58] <ryg> jeje...live your life and ejoy
[21:58] <SmallR2002> 'do you have the disk that came with the computer' got me a 'yes'
[21:58] <ikonia> ghostkni1e: lets drop the topic then
[21:58] <SmallR2002> unfortunately i didn't want that disk
[21:58] <SmallR2002> anyway
[21:59] <Tutty> has anyone here had success with Full Tilt Poker on Wine?
[21:59] <Patric7> linux_manju:  Thanks for your help.  pccardctl eject && pccardctl insert works after a resume
[21:59] <ikonia> Tutty: the guys in #winehq may be better to ask for specific application compatability help
[21:59] <linux_manju> Patric7: NP
[21:59] <Tutty> ah, great.. thank you
[21:59] <sebsebseb> SmallR2002: well there's bound to be another way to fix your Grub issue
[21:59] <dfkmas> someone wants to help me with truecrypt, i was folowing this to get it work, but somethings wrong
[22:00] <dfkmas> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-truecrypt-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[22:00] <SmallR2002> sebsebseb, i'm thinking some form of mbr reinstall by linux might fix it
[22:00] <dravekx> ok ubuntu sucks. it crashes more than it runs
[22:00] <ikonia> dravekx: don't use it then
[22:00] <sebsebseb> !details |  dravekx
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> dravekx: n-one is forcing you to use it
[22:01] <dravekx> well, everyone told me its the way to go, but so far, its just crashing... and I havent started using it yet. lol
[22:01] <dfkmas> this is what i get from uname -r
[22:01] <dfkmas> 2.6.28-13-generic
[22:01] <sebsebseb> dravekx: when exactly does it crash?
[22:01] <dravekx> sebsebseb, when I login remotely via putty.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> dravekx: then they are a fanboy
[22:02] <sebsebseb> dravekx: maybe it's  putty/ssh that's crashing?
[22:02] <Samm> I honestly don't see any difference between wajig and apt-get besides their spelled differently.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> dravekx: linux isnt for everyone, otherwise everyone would use it, just like windows doesnt suit everyones needs
[22:02] <prince_jammys> uh, oh .. OS war.
[22:02] <dravekx> can i use telnet instead of putty?
[22:02] <ikonia> dravekx: telnet is not installed by default on ubuntu
[22:02] <prince_jammys> dravekx: just give the channel full details of what you're doing, and what's going wrong.
[22:02] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: your good at slightly  weird Grub issues aren't you?   if so I think  SmallR2002  could benefit from your help, when  he repeats his issue
[22:02] <edbian> dravekx: Yes but telnet is insecure.  That's why ssh was invented.
[22:03] <linux_manju> dravekx:  Did you select the correct protocol in putty ?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: wassup duder?
[22:03] <PROject-Emerald> How do I open a folder via command line? I'm trying to install ~/.cedega/.winex_ver
[22:03] <sebsebseb> SmallR2002: repeate  the  Grub issue  you have,   I can see at least 3 people  here  that  may be able to help
[22:03] <PROject-Emerald> Open ~/.cedega/.winex_ver **
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> PROject-Emerald: cd <folder name>
[22:03] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: Do you mean navigate to a terminal in the command line?  Or open that spot in nautilus?
[22:04] <linux_manju> PROject-Emerald: Dont know what do you mean by open ?.. However mc ( midnight commander might help)
[22:04] <insomen4o_> newbie help: is there a way to join a wireless network via the terminal?
[22:04] <ikonia> insomen4o_: iwconfig
[22:04] <edbian> navigate to a folder in the...*
[22:04] <PROject-Emerald> (I'm a linux newb) but I need to get it so I can delete/add files
[22:04] <dravekx> prince_jammys, i installed ubuntu server on a seperate partition on my server. I booted to it and installed SSH server. I log in remotely using the default username and pwd. as soon as I try to type a command. putty tells me "network error" and I go to the server and it says "Ubuntu Server Software Crashed"
[22:04] <SmallR2002> ActionParsnip, i installed ubuntu on the misses laptop, everything worked perfectly till now, vista won't boot, when i select it on the grub menu it just reboots again
[22:04] <PROject-Emerald> Replace folders, etc
[22:04] <ikonia> dravekx: what command
[22:04] <linux_manju> insomen4o_: Yes
[22:04] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: cd moves the terminal around.  It stands for "change directory"
[22:05] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: ls lists the files in the directory you're in (the current directory)
[22:05] <linux_manju> insomen4o_: iwconfig wlan0 essid "SSID" key "WEP-KEY"
[22:05] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: rm removes empty directory
[22:05] <PROject-Emerald> How do I get it to open with the File Browser?
[22:05] <linux_manju> insomen4o_: ifconfig wlan0 up ; dhclient wlan0
[22:05] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: mkdir creates new ones
[22:05] <dravekx> ikonia, I cant get the command out... two to 3 letters and thats it. S-u-d (network error)
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: you will need to run:   gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:05] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: nautilus /home
[22:05] <ikonia> dravekx: sounds like your network is unstable
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: and change the setting for windows
[22:05] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: in a terminal: "nautilus /home
[22:05] <edbian> "
[22:05] <dravekx> ikonia, thats what im thinking.. I need to look at it from the other side.
[22:06] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip:  hmm that's a point I didn't get  SmallR2002 to do that, I just assumed the Vista partition should have still been detected by Grub
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> !grub| SmallR2002
[22:06] <PROject-Emerald> Thanks.
[22:06] <edbian> PROject-Emerald: Any more questions? :)
[22:06] <PROject-Emerald> Not yet, hah
[22:06] <sebsebseb> SmallR2002: open that file and pastebin the output
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  SmallR2002
[22:06] <JoAnneThrax> I have a new and novel problem, if any of you have information and would be kind enough to help.  When I try to "fullscreen" a youtube flash video it screws up the laptop monitor.  Fills it all with unreadable gibberish.  The 2nd external monitor still shows everything (including the flash video) just fine.
[22:06] <JoAnneThrax> It doesn't crash the browser.
[22:07] <ikonia> JoAnneThrax: there are some problems with flash in general and some video cards / configs as flash is closed source
[22:07] <ikonia> JoAnneThrax: not that that is the problem, just a heads up
[22:07] <JoAnneThrax> And the only way I know to get the laptop's onboard monitor working again is to reboot...
[22:08] <PROject-Emerald> Anyone know the default installation path for Cedega?
[22:08] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: /usr/bin is the norm
[22:08] <Samm> JoAnneThrax: you could also try CTrl-Alt-BackSpace.
[22:08] <JoAnneThrax> Of course, at home I can use the external to save everything and reboot...but it could get annoying whenever I'm elsewhere.
[22:08] <Samm> JoAnneThrax: But I think that closes all windows.
[22:08] <Scunizi> JoAnneThrax: instead of rebooting the entire machine you can restart just the "display" portion.. CTRL+alt+f2 .. login then .. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:08] <JoAnneThrax> Samm: What does that do exactly?
[22:09] <prince_jammys> JoAnneThrax: It restarts X.
[22:09] <Samm> JoAnneThrax: ^^^
[22:09] <Jcn> is there anyway to update the hardware drivers options
[22:09] <Scunizi> JoAnneThrax: the other thing to look at is if you're using compiz (turn off as a test), or Xinerama (try twinview instead)
[22:09] <ikonia> Jcn: update in what way ?
[22:09]  * linux_manju goes out to grab a beer
[22:09] <Samm> but do this JoAnneThrax: instead of rebooting the entire machine you can restart just the "display" portion.. CTRL+alt+f2 .. login then .. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:09] <ikonia> Jcn: the application, or the drivers it offers ?
[22:09] <JoAnneThrax> Samm: okay.  I thought.  Thanks, I'll try that.
[22:09] <Jcn> ikonia: the drivers it offers
[22:09] <JoAnneThrax> I'm not using either compiz or xinerama yet
[22:10] <ikonia> Jcn: it will over new drivers when ubuntu has classed them as compatible/stable
[22:10] <prince_jammys> I think in the current ubuntu release ctrl+alt+backspace is disabled. (i have hardy)
[22:10] <JoAnneThrax> Samm: that'll work assuming the monitor garbling is in X
[22:10] <Jcn> ikonia:  I only have once choice available
[22:10] <Samm> JoAnneThrax:  CTRL+Alt+f2 is better, props to Scunizi.
[22:10] <ikonia> prince_jammys: correct
[22:10] <Jcn> one
[22:10] <ikonia> Jcn: that's all that's marked as "stable" currently then
[22:10] <artillerytx> Hey guys im trying to install 9.04 server on a dell power edge 1750 and it says there is no NIC on the system and there clearly is and its working any idea on how to fix this ?
[22:10] <Samm> JoAnneThrax: Yea, but if there's output it is.
[22:10] <ikonia> artillerytx: what make/model nic is in it ?
[22:11] <artillerytx> ikonia: im not sure how can i look that up
[22:11] <theTroy> How to force my nvidia card into powersaving mode?
[22:11] <ikonia> artillerytx: lspci
[22:11] <ikonia> artillerytx: you may want to consider using the desktop version
[22:11] <artillerytx> ikonia: you can't add support for other nic cards?
[22:11] <dravekx> I think i fixed it.
[22:11] <JoAnneThrax> Samm: the ctrl-alt-backspace is doing nothing
[22:12] <dravekx> how do I get a directory listing?
[22:12] <Scunizi> Thanks Samm :)
[22:12] <Jcn> ikonia: well I opened one the manuals that you guys recommended earlier and it says I have to enbale accelerated ati graphics through hardware drivers
[22:12] <ikonia> artillerytx: yes, but if you're not confident with managing a server the desktop can be more helpful
[22:12] <Scunizi> dravekx: ls or ls -la
[22:12] <ikonia> Jcn: yes, if there is a stable driver / compatible driver available
[22:12] <davec> hello
[22:12] <artillerytx> ikonia: alright well lets see what NIC is it just a second
[22:12] <davec> i fixed my sound and wifi with the help of this irc chatroom
[22:12] <davec> thanks to all
[22:12] <prince_jammys> JoAnneThrax: they've disabled it in the current ubuntu release
[22:12] <davec> you told me how to edit the grub list
[22:13] <prince_jammys> JoAnneThrax: there's a way around that, but i forgot how. the bot knows how, but i forgot the bot trigger :)
[22:13] <davec> for running windows exe files is it better to use Wine or Virtualbox
[22:13] <Jcn> ikonia: i'll brb
[22:13] <mzz> !dontzap | JoAnneThrax, prince_jammys
[22:13] <JoAnneThrax> Scunizi/Samm: Will that sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart work regardless of the windowmanager I'm using/
[22:13] <davec> if I want to setup XP Home with Virtualbox do I need a seperate hard disk partition
[22:13] <StrangeCharm> can additional dns servers be manually added if a network connection already uses dhcp?
[22:13] <Scunizi> davec: Virtualbox.. because then you have an entire real windows environment
[22:13] <ikonia> davec: no
[22:14] <davec> i couldnt figure out how to invoke the exe install file in virtualbox
[22:14] <mzz> davec: virtualbox prefers image files inside existing partitions
[22:14] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: sure, update resolv.conf
[22:14] <Scunizi> JoAnneThrax: no.. if you're on kubuntu (kde) then substitute kdm for teh gdm
[22:14] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: you'll need to do that everytime dhcp renews your lease
[22:14] <mzz> davec: "invoke the exe install file"?
[22:14] <davec> i used NLITE to burn an XP CD
[22:14] <davec> should I use NLITE to create an ISO
[22:14] <cariboo907> join/ #ubuntuforums
[22:14] <sebsebseb> davec: instead you  have a virtual hard disk, and it's better to use the default  dynamically expanding, and put like 60GB as the size,  that's just the size the vm thinks it has.   and  then the virtual hard disk file  itself can also grow to that size,  as long as you have enough psyical hard disk space
[22:14] <mzz> davec: I'd create an iso.
[22:14] <Scunizi> davec: if it will..
[22:14] <ikonia> davec: whatever you are comfortable with
[22:14] <rodd> I'm trying to setup 2 monitors on ubuntu 9 using nvidia x server settings but it isnt working
[22:14] <StrangeCharm> ikonia is there a way to set permanent or systemwide dns servers?
[22:15] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: yes, but if you are using dhcp it will overwrite it
[22:15] <mzz> davec: you need to boot the virtual system off an xp install cd or iso. The virtual system doesn't really care which it is, so an iso is easier/cheaper
[22:15] <davec> I got the base XP Home down to 400MB
[22:15] <artillerytx> ikonia: alright i did lspci looks like broadcom ciob-e
[22:15] <davec> this is on an UBUNTU NETBOOK
[22:15] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: you can tell dhclient to not request dhcp servers
[22:15] <rodd> i want to extend my screen to the second monitor, any ideas?
[22:15] <dravekx> ok.. installing ubtuntu desktop instead
[22:15] <Jcn> ikonia: I have laptop, is there anyway to remove the current graphics card, and install a new one?
[22:15] <dravekx> might be easier
[22:15] <ikonia> artillerytx: you need restricted modeules for some broadcom cards
[22:15] <ikonia> Jcn: no
[22:15] <mzz> Jcn: usually not
[22:15] <Scunizi> rodd: one of the twinview options should do that
[22:15] <SmallR2002> sebsebseb, and ActionParsnip, i already pb'd the grub config file, i'll pb it again in a sec
[22:15] <StrangeCharm> ikonia-  you mean dns servers?
[22:15] <davec> can virtualbox run windows inside ubuntu or does it require a seperate boot
[22:15] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: sorry, yes
[22:15] <sebsebseb> SmallR2002: I didn't get a link
[22:15] <artillerytx> ikonia: what is the best way to get that to a computer with no internet
[22:15] <Scunizi> davec: inside
[22:16] <StrangeCharm> ikonia-  will that be in the man?
[22:16] <prince_jammys> JoAnneThrax:  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart :  replace the g with a question mark in order for it to work with gdm, kdm, xdm, <any single character>dm that you use.
[22:16] <theTroy> How to force my nvidia card into powersaving mode?
[22:16] <mzz> davec: it can't run it separately, virtualbox itself needs an os to run in
[22:16] <Scunizi> davec: I'm doing it now to access a win only scanner.
[22:16] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: I expect so yes, it will only work if there is no server policy though
[22:16] <JoAnneThrax> Scunizi: Actually, using windowmaker...
[22:16] <rodd> Scunizi,  oh funny, it worked now but last time i tried it cloned my screen
[22:16] <davec> so if i burn to an ISO, how do i use virtualbox ose to use existing hard drive
[22:16] <rodd> thanks
[22:16] <ikonia> artillerytx: download the debs manually
[22:16] <StrangeCharm> ikonia-  server policy?
[22:16] <Scunizi> JoAnneThrax: ouch.. not sure there.
[22:16] <mzz> davec: (and running the same os install both as a virtualbox guest and directly is usually a bad idea)
[22:16] <ikonia> artillerytx: if you use the desktop install - you can use the restricted driver manager
[22:16] <Jcn> ikonia: ok well on that manual that you gave me earlier my card is listed as having good accelerated graphics support with the open source driver, so it should be compatible
[22:16] <Scunizi> rodd: there is the clone option and others.. explore
[22:16] <pleed> I ve just installed ubuntu and i m getting these ugly "untrusted packages" message when trying to install anything. i didnt change my sources.list. any ideas how to fix that?
[22:16] <davec> i am very familiar with unix command line interface, been using it for 25 years
[22:16] <ikonia> StrangeCharm: yes, dhcp server policy will override client
[22:16] <sebsebseb> davec: don't use OSE  if you want USB support,  and if so get it for linux hosts from http://www.virtaulbox.org
[22:16] <ikonia> Jcn: ok
[22:17] <Samm1> ummm.
[22:17] <rodd> i didnt see any other option, thats why im here
[22:17] <rodd> =p
[22:17] <artillerytx> ikonia: to download the drivers than go back to the server?
[22:17] <davec> if i can get ose to work then i will upgrade
[22:17] <sebsebseb> davec: slightly wrong URL  http://www.virtualbox.org
[22:17]  * Dekko needs help urgently with why my Ubuntu does not want to show the splash screen anymore....
[22:17] <artillerytx> ikonia: i have ubuntu desktop
[22:17] <mzz> davec: check out the "editions" page on the virtualbox wiki though. The ubuntu-packaged version may suffice.
[22:17] <ikonia> artillerytx: no - use the desktop version, it has a tool called "hardware driver manager" it may do it all for you
[22:17] <dravekx> linux support: the best thing for windows users is... not to use it. LOL
[22:17] <ikonia> artillerytx: ooh, I thought you said you where running a server install
[22:17] <Dekko> Tried reinstalling it and then 'sudo usplash' to test it, but all I get is a black screen.
[22:17] <artillerytx> ikonia: yeah i am
[22:17] <JoAnneThrax> Only see kdm and gdm in init.d
[22:17] <StrangeCharm> ikonia- my box can't ignore the dns servers that the dhcp server tells it?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !splash | Dekko
[22:17] <artillerytx> ikonia: 9.04 server
[22:17] <ikonia> artillerytx: so your not using ubuntu desktop then
[22:17] <ikonia> artillerytx: use ubuntu desktop
[22:18] <Dekko> I have disabled framebuffer etc.
[22:18] <davec> thanks for your help
[22:18] <pleed> please help: getting "untrusted packages" warning right after ubuntu 9.04 alternate installation
[22:18] <Samm> ummm.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Dekko: you can reinstall usplash too
[22:18] <artillerytx> ikonia: what is the difference between the desktop and the server other than a GUI
[22:18] <davec> when i become brave enough i will attempt virtuabox install
[22:18] <sebsebseb> davec: np
[22:18] <dravekx> if i install ubuntu desktop on top of server... will it make a seperate partition or install over server?
[22:18] <JoAnneThrax> kdm is running according to ps ax
[22:18] <mzz> artillerytx: afaik just the set of installed packages
[22:18] <Scunizi> JoAnneThrax: try gdm first then kdm and see what happens.. as a last resort I think ctrl+alt+k or SysRe(prtScn) will do the same as ctrl+alt+backspace
[22:18] <matreya6> Does anyone know a good program to make catalog databases of hard disks and cd's/ dvd's? Gtktalog only does CD's :-(
[22:18] <ikonia> artillerytx: there are packages under it, such as the restricted driver manager, and packages that depend on a non-server kernel
[22:18] <mzz> dravekx: depends on what you tell the installer to do
[22:18] <sebsebseb> davec: you don't exactly need to be brave for this, in fact  I have helped  people  that weren't that good at computers,  virtual machine before
[22:18] <Dekko> ActionParsnip tried reinstalling it but still only get a black screen (and no usplash shown on boot - just textmode)
[22:18] <dravekx> mzz thx
[22:19] <davec> seb: ok thanks
[22:19] <prince_jammys> JoAnneThrax: if you use the command i pasted, it'll restart the display manager whether it's kdm or gdm.
[22:19] <davec> if i have a nusb cd rom
[22:19] <davec> virtualbox seemed to recognize the usb cdrom
[22:19] <davec> through the unn
[22:19] <mzz> davec: if you can install an os natively chances are you can install it inside virtualbox too.
[22:19] <davec> ubuntu side reco it
[22:19] <SmallR2002> sebsebseb, ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/f7ac290c7
[22:19] <artillerytx> ikonia: haha alright i already have server installed so i install the desktop version as well or just use the desktop version all together
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Dekko: try modifying the splash screen to something, also check /boot/grub/menu.lst and make sure it says quiet on the kernel line
[22:20] <Samm> !info gnome-splashscreen-manager
[22:20] <ikonia> artillerytx: just use the desktop version - it's an excellent server
[22:20] <sebsebseb> davec: Virtualbox  will  recognize  a  Windows CD/DVD  or ISO
[22:20] <artillerytx> ikonia: alright
[22:20] <davec> that boot grub menu saved me
[22:20] <davec> after searching forums this chat gave me that trick
[22:21] <prince_jammys> Dekko: ... and verify that it says "splash" in the kernel line at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:21] <davec> the new kernel wiped out wifi and sound
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: ok so is vista installed on /dev/sda3?
[22:21] <davec> i had to use grub to get the right kernel
[22:21] <davec> and now i modified the grub menu based on what they said here
[22:21] <davec> it worked great
[22:21] <sebsebseb> davec: I am not following you anymore
[22:21] <artillerytx> ikonia: do you know of a tutorial on how to use the desktop version as a server on all the required packages etc..
[22:22] <sebsebseb> davec: and a virtual machine,  is  kept  seperate from your psyical  hard disk install
[22:22] <davec> it worked greata
[22:22] <ikonia> artillerytx: exactly the same as the server version
[22:22] <sebsebseb> davec: well except for how it runs inside the host, in the virtual machine program
[22:22] <davec> it allowed me to revert to the earlier  kernel;
[22:22] <ikonia> artillerytx: install whatever server daemons you want, ubuntu server comes with none-by default so you'd have to do that yourself anyway
[22:22] <davec> seb thanks
[22:22] <SmallR2002> ActionParsnip, unless i'm very much mistaken
[22:22] <davec> i will try this weekend
[22:23] <sebsebseb> davec: #vbox is the support channel for Virtualbox
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: you need to play around with the bottom bit where it references vista
[22:23] <artillerytx> ikonia: oh okay like the open ssh server and mysql and stuff
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: try different partition numbers
[22:23] <artillerytx> gotcha
[22:23] <ikonia> artillerytx: exactlyn
[22:23] <Samm> How do I change the ubuntu logo and status bar at startup? gnome-splashscreen-manager isn't exactly that.
[22:23] <JoAnneThrax> Well...that didn't fly.
[22:23] <ikonia> exactly
[22:23] <Leoneof> i'm still have problem with Atheros chipset AR5523, it does not work
[22:23] <JoAnneThrax> I restarted kdm...but then couldn't get back to the original setup
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !splash | Samm
[22:23] <artillerytx> ikonia: so ubuntu server is just desktop version without a GUI
[22:24] <JoAnneThrax> Sorry, the original session.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> !usplash | Samm
[22:24] <ikonia> artillerytx: not quite, but for all basic discussion, yes
[22:24] <helo> does not
[22:24] <Samm> thanks.
[22:24] <hdon> what package contains iconv man page?
[22:24] <sebsebseb> artillerytx: yep basically, but also it has a kernel which is better for proper servers
[22:24] <hdon> iconv(3)
[22:24] <sebsebseb> artillerytx: or so they say
[22:24] <Samm> Leoneof: do you have internet access on the machine?
[22:24] <artillerytx> sebsebseb: ahh well im just gonna host a couple domains
[22:24] <SmallR2002> ActionParsnip, glancing at fdisk -l it's correct, 1 is util's, 2 is recovery, 3 is vista and so on
[22:24] <Leoneof> no, only by this lan wireless
[22:24] <Samm> !info kdm
[22:25] <sebsebseb> artillerytx: and the server  versions  get supported longer than the desktop versions,  and  really for proper servers people should use long term support releases
[22:25] <prince_jammys> hdon: try manpages-dev
[22:25] <Samm> !info kubunto
[22:25] <Samm> !info kubuntu
[22:25] <koltroll> ive installed the netbook-launcher packages, but it bugs like hell. is it possible to get some sort of list of all the packages you need? in case Ive missed something
[22:25] <Samm> darn
[22:25] <artillerytx> sebsebseb: right .... so i kinda want to keep the server version but it sounds like it will be a pain in the butt to install the NIC drivers
[22:25] <Leoneof> Samm, no, only by this lan wireless
[22:25] <prince_jammys> hdon: ... and then man 3 iconv
[22:25] <Dekko> can someone PLEASE help me with the usplash... I can not get it to show even though I have disabled the framebuffer and reinstalled it.
[22:25] <ikonia> artillerytx: you don't need to keep the server version
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-desktop | samm
[22:25] <koltroll> you should see how "nice" my xchat window looks
[22:25] <ikonia> artillerytx: the desktop kernel will work excellent for you
[22:25] <sebsebseb> artillerytx: you can do the server stuff in the desktop version
[22:26] <artillerytx> sebsebseb: okay cool yall convinced me
[22:26] <Samm> ActionParnsip I need KDE3
[22:26] <sebsebseb> Samm: ah yes you again :)
[22:26] <mzz> davec: /lib/mzz 3
[22:26] <JoAnneThrax> I guess I'll try the dontzap method
[22:26] <mzz> err, sorry
[22:26] <matreya6> Does anyone know a good program to make catalog databases of hard disks and cd's/ dvd's? Gtktalog only does CD's :-(
[22:26] <Samm> sebsebseb: I forgot (guilty) and I had to go urgently yesterday....
[22:26] <samir79> good evening guys
[22:27] <sebsebseb> Samm: I am not sure  how you would add the  repo for KDE 3,  since  it's not  exactly offical I guess,   and  that remix  CD is semi offical  or whatever
[22:27] <hdon> prince_jammys: thanks, trying now
[22:27] <sebsebseb> Samm: I looked for that before,   trying to find the repo,  but no luck
[22:27] <Leoneof> Samm >.<
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Samm: i'd ask in kubuntu, they may know a repo or 3
[22:27] <ctmjr> Samm, there is a how to on kde's website
[22:28] <Samm> Leoneof: I only know how if you have internet on the machine.
[22:28] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: dosn't mention the repo for KDE 3, or  not clearly if it does
[22:28] <Samm> Leoneof: sorry.
[22:28] <Samm> ActionParsnip: ctmjr: thanks.
[22:28] <Jcn> I am in GNU nano 2.0.9 and it is empty
[22:28] <Leoneof> well Samm, maybe i need to download something manually instead of your way?
[22:28] <prince_jammys> hdon: you'll also get the system call man pages, etc. with that package.
[22:28] <Samm> I;ll go to kubuntu and ask.
[22:29] <Samm> Leoneof: exactly, and I don't know how to do that.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> Samm: they might convince you to do KDE 4  hmm
[22:29] <Seven_Six_Two> My pc is a few years old and a wee bit slow, and I was wondering if anyone knows how to lengthen the amount of time before gnome pops up the "x is not responding, wait or close now"
[22:29] <SmallR2002> ActionParsnip, no luck, any ideas?
[22:29] <Samm> sebsebseb: yes, but KDE4 is soooo modular and pain.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> Samm: I prefer KDE 3 over KDE 4,  except for how some of teh apps got better, but I would use those in Gnome anyway
[22:29] <SmallR2002> ActionParsnip, it simply reboots when i select it
[22:29] <Leoneof> Samm, can you tell me? what's your guide?
[22:29] <hdon> prince_jammys: yeah iv'e been looking for those, thanks :)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> SmallR2002: create a backup of menu.lst and then boot to live cd and reinstall grub, it should pick up the boot appropriately
[22:29] <artillerytx> sebsebseb: know of any good fan controlling programs
[22:29] <ctmjr> sebsebseb, http://www.kde.org/info/3.5.10.php
[22:29] <bpascal123> hi
[22:29] <hdon> prince_jammys: this was the correct package, thanks! :)
[22:30] <sebsebseb> artillerytx: no
[22:30] <prince_jammys> hdon: welcome.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Samm: i use to love kde. got sick of its flakiness and jumped to lxde
[22:30] <bpascal123> any wifi not working with ubuntu 9.04
[22:30] <bpascal123> anyone?
[22:30] <Samm> Leoneof: Install the madwifi driver in System>Administration>Hardware Drivers. but if you have no internet, it won't download, and in some cases, not show up.
[22:30] <Samm> ActionParsnip: ???
[22:30] <bpascal123> me?
[22:30] <Samm> !info lxde
[22:30] <Leoneof> Samm, i downloaded madwifi, but it is need to compile, i didn;t know how
[22:30] <bpascal123> My wifi use to work
[22:31] <bpascal123> but now it only sees spots
[22:31] <Samm> Leoneof: (i don't know how either :()
[22:31] <bpascal123> but no connection
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Samm: http://www.lxde.org/sites/default/files/images/desktop_full.preview.png
[22:31] <Leoneof> :/
[22:31] <Samm> Leoneof: that's why i use the hardware thinkg
[22:31] <Seven_Six_Two> Leoneof, usually there are detailed instructions on how to compile in whatever you downloaded
[22:31] <Leoneof> any expert here?
[22:31] <Samm> ActionParsnip:  thanks.
[22:31] <mzeal> I have lost my gnome config
[22:31] <Leoneof> k
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof: ask the room, it will answeer
[22:32] <kevin__> salu ya des francais
[22:32] <Leoneof> the room? here? O_o
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !fr |  kevin__
[22:32] <Samm> ActionParsnip: is that the default configuration?
[22:32] <kevin__> merci
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof: usually its configure  make  sudo make install
[22:32] <bpascal123> again in one piece : My wifi use to work fine (after reboot). But now it catches wifi spots and mine as well but there is no internet connection
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Samm: well, without all the desktop fluff, yes
[22:32] <prince_jammys> Leoneof: whatever you downloaded should come with a README file with directions. did you check it out?
[22:33] <pleed> please help: I m getting the "untrusted packages" WARNING when trying to install anything. my system is right after the installation state. i ve NOT modified sources.list in any way.
[22:33] <casey> hwhere is a list of comans?
[22:33] <shaullx> can i connect 2 dif ISPs in one time to have more speed?
[22:33] <Jcn> first is x11 the same as x server, secondly how do you know you have it installed
[22:33] <mzeal> any wat that I can recover my gnome config??
[22:33] <Samm> ActionParsnip: I'll give it ago, and test alongside kde3. see what I like.
[22:33] <ikonia> shaullx: no
[22:33] <Leoneof> prince_jammys, yes, but i don't have compiler x_x
[22:33] <pleed> also "aptitude update" doesnt warn me about missing keys"
[22:33] <Samm> hopefull kubuntu won't switch me to 4 ;)
[22:33] <shaullx> there is absolutly no way of doing it? :(
[22:33] <prince_jammys> !compile | Leoneof
[22:34] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, Leoneof , the instructions are (if I remember correctly) are not simply configure make make install.   Install the gcc packages
[22:34] <ikonia> shaullx: no
[22:34] <Jcn> first is x11 the same as x server, secondly how do you know you have it installed
[22:34] <prince_jammys> isn't madwifi available through repositories anyway?
[22:34] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, your isp has to support it, but it is possible
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> pleed: can you provide a pastebin of: sudo apt-get update
[22:34] <ikonia> Jcn: you have xorg xserver installed
[22:35] <ctmjr> !X | Jcn
[22:35] <Leoneof> i've DVD ubuntu, maybe i can find compiler inside DVD?
[22:35] <inet6> hi to all
[22:35] <prince_jammys> Leoneof: check out the link I sent you.
[22:35] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, Leoneof probably. but check that link.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof: add the dvd as a repo ni nautilus, you can then install build-essential
[22:35] <Jcn> ikonia: the reason i ask is because I am in nano and it is blank
[22:35] <prince_jammys> oh, i see. he's using the DVD as a repo.
[22:36] <ikonia> Jcn: what's blank ?
[22:36] <Leoneof> :S  , repo ni nautilus? @_@
[22:36] <casey> where is a list of commans?
[22:36] <ikonia> casey: what commands ?
[22:36] <casey> for linux
[22:36] <Jcn> in nano- GNU nano 2.0.9        file: /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[22:36] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, sorry. you can have 2 internet connections, but it won't increase speed unless you have 2 connections from the same isp and they support MLPPP
[22:36] <prince_jammys> Jcn: X11 with capital X
[22:37] <Jcn> prince_jammys: it makes a difference?
[22:37] <prince_jammys> Jcn: yessir.
[22:37] <prince_jammys> filenames are case sensitive.
[22:37] <shaullx> seven_six_two both of the accounts are from the same isp one of them is from a friend
[22:37] <shaullx> so is it possible?
[22:37] <Jcn> prince_jammys: lemme try again then thanks
[22:37] <ikonia> shaullx: no
[22:37] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, only if they're MLPPP
[22:38] <shaullx> how do i check that
[22:38] <ikonia> shaullx: it's not possible - move on
[22:38] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, you would know
[22:38] <pleed> Here my aptitude update pastebin http://de.pastebin.ca/1504903
[22:38] <Jcn> prince_jammys: lol i'm a newb...it worked thanks
[22:38] <shaullx> ikonia whats ur prob? seven_six_two is helping me
[22:38] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, it is "possible" but you would have to have subscribed to it. You can't just fake it
[22:38] <samir79> am confused guys !!! is it possible or not  !!!!
[22:39] <ikonia> shaullx: it's not possible
[22:39] <prince_jammys> Jcn: good. Yes, if you have a file named "foo", you can also have a different file named "Foo" and another named "FOO".
[22:39] <prince_jammys> ... and they will be considered different files.
[22:39] <Seven_Six_Two> ikonia, not with those connections. but your terseness makes it sound like no 2 connections of any sort could ever be combined.
[22:39] <Jcn> prince_jammys: ok whatever i modify in this will cause real effects?
[22:39] <shaullx> Seven_six_two and what about using vmware and connecting there and bridge the two connections to get more speed possible?
[22:39] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: no - he asked for 2 dsl connections
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Jcn: did you open the file as administrator?
[22:40] <ikonia> shaullx: no
[22:40] <Jcn> prince_jammys:  as sudo
[22:40] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: bonding and distribution are very possible, not on two home dsl lines though
[22:40] <mzeal> I lost my gnome config
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Jcn: yes, you can save the changes then.
[22:40] <shaullx> i never said its dsl
[22:40] <Seven_Six_Two> my isp (teksavvy DSL) offers MLPPP to home users
[22:40] <ikonia> shaullx: what type of connection then
[22:40] <prince_jammys> Jcn: not a bad idea to make a backup first: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[22:41] <ikonia> Seven_Six_Two: %99 of the home user ones won't
[22:41] <shaullx> cable
[22:41] <Jcn> prince_jammys: ok because I am going to modify my X.org
[22:41] <ikonia> shaullx: ok - so no to that too
[22:41] <Guest92268> anybody know a anonymous program for ubuntu
[22:41] <prince_jammys> Jcn: if you're nervous, close nano and make a backup as shown above, in case you need to revert.
[22:41] <ikonia> Guest92268: anonymous what ?
[22:41] <Seven_Six_Two> ikonia, shaullx 99% of home users won't. 100% correct
[22:41] <Seven_Six_Two> lol
[22:41] <Guest92268> ikonia  basically a program that hides my ip
[22:41] <al_> My Ubuntu 9.2 Gnome is stuck on 640x480 res, anyone know how to resolve this?
[22:42] <ikonia> Guest92268: get a cloak from freenode
[22:42] <ikonia> !cloak > Guest92268
[22:42] <Jcn> type in  that entire command?
[22:42] <Guest92268> ikonia  it's not for irc; i need for http
[22:42] <prince_jammys> Jcn: yes, it'll make a copy to xorg.conf.bak
[22:42] <Pricey> !tor | Guest92268
[22:42] <ikonia> Guest92268: use a proxy
[22:42] <Pricey> bah
[22:42] <prince_jammys> Jcn: then you can recover the old file if necessary
[22:42] <Seven_Six_Two> shaullx, definitely not then. most isp's won't offer it anyhow, but now you know how to ask for it
[22:42] <Jcn> prince_jammys: how? (through console)
[22:42] <Guest92268> ikonia they don't work
[22:43] <Pricey> Guest92268: find the page for 'tor' on the ubuntu wiki
[22:43] <ctmjr> !tor | Guest92268
[22:43] <ikonia> Guest92268: then no
[22:43] <ChrisAshton84> anyone know how to get ubiquity past the failure to unmount /cdrom dialog?  I'm running the CD ISO on /dev/sda6 and want to install to /dev/sda5... it doesn't like this (though this is a documented install method on the ubuntu website)
[22:43] <Guest92268> is "tor" = "proxy"?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: lsof | grep cdrom
[22:43] <prince_jammys> Jcn: if you needed to recover the copy, you'd copy the backup back to xorg.conf (the copy's filename will be xorg.conf.bak)
[22:43] <prince_jammys> Jcn: just by reversing those two filenames in the cp command
[22:44] <ChrisAshton84> ActionParsnip: that unfortunately doesn't return anything
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: then it can't be in use
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: try: sudo umount /cdrom
[22:44] <sylvanus_> does anyone have a clue as to what website I could go to that have talking virtual characters where you type in the text and the character says it?
[22:44] <Jcn> prince_jammys: i typed in the command you gave me to backup, it didnt show anything as happeing just went back to the ~$ line. How do I know a backup was created
[22:45] <ikonia> !offtopic > sylvanus_
[22:45] <SmallR2002> ActionParsnip, installed grub from a livecd, still same problem
[22:45] <Guest67410> Hey, could someone help me configure my iptables? I am using firestarter as a frontend for it which also starts/manages my DHCP server. My Xbox1 is connect to it but w. crossover. When i START firestarter it gets an IP and internet but i cant connect to smb, when i stop the the firewall i get no internet but i do get smb. Someone help please?
[22:45] <ChrisAshton84> ActionParsnip: I can't unmount - says it's busy
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> sylvanus_: you can install espeak
[22:45] <prince_jammys> Jcn: ls /etc/X11/  and you'll see it. You didn't see output because the command was successful.
[22:45] <Chessguy1> hey
[22:45] <sylvanus_> ok thank you and sorry for being off topic!
[22:45] <Jcn> prince_jammys: ok cool thanks
[22:45] <lukasoft> Hey everyone, I was wondering, in Ubuntu, how do I restart the Window system? I tried Ctrl+alt+backspace and nothing happened, so I'm assuming thats for something else
[22:46] <Bob_Dole> lukasoft, They disabled it
[22:46] <ChrisAshton84> mount shows: /dev/sda6 on /cdrom type ext4
[22:46] <Seven_Six_Two> lukasoft, no, that was disabled
[22:46] <prince_jammys> !dontzap | lukasoft
[22:46] <Chessguy1> any way to dim the laptop screen
[22:46] <Bob_Dole> lukasoft, ctrl+alt+backspacecan be reenabled, I forget how
[22:46] <FFEMTcJ> lukasoft: http://chrisjohnston.org/2009/re-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-904
[22:46] <lukasoft> Why would they do that?
[22:46] <Seven_Six_Two> because ppl use it to log out
[22:46] <Seven_Six_Two> or hit it accidentally
[22:46] <prince_jammys> lukasoft: to keep us busy :)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> lukasoft: people were apparently "accidentally" pressing it. I don't understand the change either
[22:47] <Chessguy1> is there any way to dim a laptop screen beyond just dimming the backlight?
[22:47] <casey> where is a list of commands for linux?
[22:47] <lukasoft> hhaha, thanks!
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> casey: there are millions
[22:47] <blognewb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b714Wi4CDsQ
[22:47] <Seven_Six_Two> casey, try tldp.org
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> casey: try to think: how can i achieve something, rather than what can I achieve
[22:47] <prince_jammys> !shell | casey
[22:47] <Jcn> prince_jammys: in command how do I type  |, such as in lspci -nn | grep vga
[22:47] <Guest67410> Hey, could someone help me configure my iptables? I am using firestarter as a frontend for it which also starts/manages my DHCP server. My Xbox1 is connect to it but w. crossover. When i START firestarter it gets an IP and internet but i cant connect to smb, when i stop the the firewall i get no internet but i do get smb. Someone help please?
[22:47] <prince_jammys> Jcn: just as you did
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | Guest67410
[22:48] <eris> HELP, i upgraded lappy... it was outta space, but kept on upgrading, now afraid to restart it
[22:48] <eris> is there any way i can check it has everything it needs?
[22:48] <Jcn> prince_jammys: ok, it just looks as two seperated lines in console rather than a straight solid
[22:48] <deagle_> hello all :)
[22:48] <Chessguy1> anyone know how to dim the laptop screen beyond just disabling the backlight?
[22:48] <prince_jammys> Jcn: that's your console font. it's ok.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> eris: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install
[22:48] <prince_jammys> Jcn: some fonts render the pipe character (|) that way.
[22:49] <Jcn> prince_jammys: well i typed in that commans and there as no output
[22:49] <Samm> The insert buttone doesn't work on my laptop in Vi, is there a workaround?
[22:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Chessguy1, to what end?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Samm: try nano instead of vi
[22:49] <prince_jammys> Jcn: try VGA, all caps.
[22:49] <prince_jammys> Jcn: ... or grep -i vga
[22:49] <Samm> I'm used to Vi, is there any other way?
[22:49] <Jcn> prince_jammys: lol the caps thing will take some getting used to
[22:50] <nathan7> Samm: use i
[22:50] <prince_jammys> Jcn: grep's -i option makes the search case-insensitive
[22:50] <eris> ActionParsnip: said i have 0 packages to upgrade
[22:50] <ChrisAshton84> ActionParsnip: no ideas? :-/
[22:50]  * eris looks for some type of install log
[22:50] <Samm> nathan7: let me try that... just i, not ctrl+i or something like that?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: no idea fellah, maybe someone else can chime in
[22:50] <nathan7> Samm: In command mode, yes
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> eris: sounds like a score
[22:50] <eris> cannot google search
[22:50] <eris> which scares me
[22:50] <deagle_> I'm having an issue with my tc1000 pen, I included the line:  Option "Buttons" "2" into xorg.conf but it still acts like the button on the pen is like the middle button on the mouse (when it should be the right button) please help :)
[22:51] <prince_jammys> Samm: insert is just 'i' in vi[m]
[22:51] <prince_jammys> oh, someone told you already.
[22:51] <ChrisAshton84> basically I have no CD burner, and unetbootin doesn't run, so this is my second shot at installing w/o a CDROM
[22:51] <Samm> nathan7: oh, so like :i or just i? that is so simple, I'm not believing that.
[22:51] <Seven_Six_Two> just i
[22:51] <Guest92268> what is best program i can use to  view USA-residents only online video?
[22:51] <nathan7> Samm: i
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> eris: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:51] <prince_jammys> Samm: esc (if you have to) and plain 'i'
[22:52] <nathan7> Guest92268: use a proxy
[22:52] <Samm> nathan7, prince_jammys: it works!
[22:52] <Guest92268> nathan7 they don't work
[22:52] <deagle_> lol
[22:52] <nathan7> Use a proper one
[22:52] <nathan7> Samm: =)
[22:52] <nathan7> Samm: I didn't know insert did the same rly
[22:52] <prince_jammys> yeah, that's like the arrow keys replacing hjkl
[22:52] <ctmjr> !ot | Guest92268
[22:53] <Samm> haha, but now whenever I use a arrow key I get d's, a's and etc.
[22:53] <Samm> nathan7: ^
[22:53] <prince_jammys> Samm: install vim
[22:53] <prince_jammys> Samm: you're running the basic vi. install vim and be happier.
[22:53] <al_> My Gnome Screen Resolution is stuck on 640x480, can someone help me with this?
[22:53] <eris> its not a networking thing, im connected via ssh to here...
[22:53] <Samm> doesn't that just come with ubuntu? it said Vi[improved] on startup too.
[22:54] <eris> oh well ill try restarting it i guess,
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/   scroll to the bottom, you can use a windows box to write the data to a usb stick and install from that
[22:54] <ChrisAshton84> ActionParsnip: no USB drive either :)
[22:55] <prince_jammys> Samm: you probably have vim-tiny installed or something. i forget. try sudo apt-get install vim, and invoke it as vim, not vi.
[22:56] <prince_jammys> i don't recall having to change any config file to get the arrow keys to work like h,j,k,l
[22:56] <Jcn> prince_jammys: what is AIGLX desktop acceleration?
[22:56] <nathan7> Samm: That's not the i
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: then you will need spare unused space on the system (like your home partition if you have one, you willl need to format it and put the cd on it to boot to, then install to the currently bootable partition
[22:56] <nathan7> Samm: use vim
[22:56] <prince_jammys> Jcn: something i'm ignorant about.
[22:56] <Samm> prince_jammys: thanks, I'll try once dpkg is open, kde3 is installing right now ( ActionParsnip: wink )
[22:56] <eris> 2009-07-23 17:39:34 status half-configured linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic 2.6.24-24.56  <-- from dmesg.log
[22:56] <nathan7> prince_jammys: vi{,m} is the diff
[22:56] <Jcn> prince_jammys: ok thanks
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: short answer, buy a usbb storage for the price of a pint
[22:56] <Jcn> what is AIGLX desktop acceleration? anyone
[22:57] <nathan7> Well, 3d acceleration for X
[22:57] <ChrisAshton84> ActionParsnip: that's what I'm trying now - I have a 4.5 GB space for the livecd/dvd and a 20GB space to install to
[22:57] <nathan7> Ati's version
[22:57] <ChrisAshton84> that's when I get this error
[22:57] <nathan7> Aka, sucky
[22:58] <djkfdhj> hi, i use another session type than the default one (gnome) and i don't find the name of the sound systray
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> ChrisAshton84: then you have a lot of messing round to do if you want to do it without an externally bootable device
[22:58] <Samm> ooohh.... vim-gtk looks cool, too.
[22:58] <Samm> There we go, vim ftw!
[22:58] <ChrisAshton84> ActionParsnip: yeah I guess so.  Last time unetbootin worked (from windows) but it doesn't run in this livecd environment I'm in right now
[22:59] <Samm> Now, to go try out KDE3.
[22:59] <Dekko> Is there anyone here that could help me out with why my usplash will NOT show up anymore?
[22:59] <prince_jammys> maybe there's a problem with the vga=XXX business in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:59] <Dekko> I've been toying around with the framebuffer a bit and now I only get a text boot.... no bootlogo anymore.
[23:00] <datta> can anyone please tell me why the alsa mixer and trash crash in ubuntu 9.04
[23:00] <Dekko> Prince_jammys been there done that.... is there any way to just revert everything back to default?
[23:00] <Dekko> when I try sudo 'usplash' I get graphics bugs and what not....
[23:00] <datta> also nowadays the time also crashes with the system monitor
[23:00] <heinz1> Dekko: You could try startupmanager
[23:00] <djtdjttfd> what is the build process for the ubuntu live cds?
[23:01] <prince_jammys> Dekko: i don't really know what you've done. the default menu.lst lines should have 'quiet splash' in them.
[23:01] <prince_jammys> datta: are you asking for the full path to the Trash directory?
[23:01] <prince_jammys> datta: oh, sorry, misread.
[23:01] <Dekko> prince_jammys: They do ... if updated and tried everything in various guides and I still can't make it out.
[23:01] <djtdjttfd> this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization only explains how to do superficial after-modifications
[23:02] <datta> prince_jammys no not actually i have faced crashing of trashes
[23:02] <prince_jammys> Dekko: i'm as stuck as you are, then.
[23:02] <prince_jammys> datta: yeah, sorry, i missed the word "crashes" in your question.
[23:03] <Dekko> Trying startup-manager
[23:03] <datta> so does anyone know how if they have a crashed version in ubuntu 9.04
[23:03] <prince_jammys> Dekko: what is it that brought about the change? you changed the blacklisted framebuffer drivers>
[23:03] <prince_jammys> ?
[23:05] <artillerytx> ikonia hey i installed desktop and i don't think it sees the NIC still
[23:05] <Dekko> prince_jammys: Yes I did that, but then AFAIK I changed them back, BUT no that was not what caused it in the first place, it was me trying to get a BLUE usplash instead of orange, using a guide on the ubuntu forums - after that all went kaput.
[23:06] <Dekko> When I boot now it immediately drops to text boot .... when I run 'sudo usplash' monitor goes black and drops back to desktop after a few seconds - OR stays black so I have to force reboot.
[23:08] <eris> doing: sudo apt-get install --reinstall `cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep half-configured | awk '{print $4" "}'`  ^__^
[23:08] <Dekko> does anyone know what the DEFAULT resolution and bit depth for the usplash is??
[23:08] <eris> seems to be working ^^
[23:11] <artillerytx> can anyone help me install drivers for my NIC
[23:11] <prince_jammys> Dekko: maybe you can try some desperation methods, such as purging usplash and reinstalling it.
[23:12] <prince_jammys> Dekko: purging so that the configuration files get recreated.
[23:12] <bobo> hey guys, ive recently been given an update for pulsse audio, but when i try to install it it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/228572/
[23:15] <alejo> hi , i have a problem , i'm  trying to do update ( apt-get install )  i get this error (W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 2ED6BB6042C24D89
[23:15] <alejo>  )
[23:16] <ikonia> AJC_Z0: you don't have a key for a ppa your using
[23:16] <ikonia> AJC_Z0: sorry, not you
[23:17] <ikonia> alejo:  ^
[23:17] <Guest92268> what is better kernel type?  hybrid or monolithic
[23:17] <ikonia> Guest92268: that's offtopic for here
[23:17] <ikonia> !poll
[23:17] <b33r> Hello can anyone tell me why kernel isn't updating to Version 2.6.27.14.18 in update manager I can't mark it I'm on 8.10
[23:17] <ikonia> b33r: what are you currently running ?
[23:18] <b33r> ubuntu 8.10
[23:18] <arleslie> !es | alejo, it's sudo apt-get update
[23:18] <ikonia> b33r: what kernel, currently
[23:18] <b33r> kernel verison Linux b33r 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 20:53:41 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:18] <alejo> yo pregunte en ingleeeeess jajajaja
[23:18] <dethredic> Anyone know how I can make urxvt like 80% transparent?
[23:18] <b33r> also on update manager it shows that it's only 2kb :/
[23:18] <alejo> no tranqui ya me cambio de canll
[23:19] <alejo> canal
[23:19] <artillerytx> how do i get the drivers for my network card?
[23:19] <ikonia> b33r: so update manager is offering it ?
[23:19] <ikonia> artillerytx: you use the driver manager application, if possible
[23:19] <b33r> yes
[23:19] <b33r> but can't mark it
[23:19] <b33r> to install
[23:19] <artillerytx> ikonia: well the desktop version didn't find my NIC either
[23:19] <ikonia> b33r: Hmmm, I wonder if something like proposed/backports repo has created a conflict (thinking out loud)
[23:20] <ikonia> artillerytx: please show me the output of uname -a
[23:20] <MichaelAmane> Hello everybody! Does anyone here think they could help me set up 3 screens on a l?aptop
[23:20] <b33r> ikonia, well any advice what I can do?
[23:20] <ikonia> b33r: not sure, I can't see why it would offer it but not let you download it
[23:20] <ikonia> b33r: if you do a sudo apt-get update does it offer it ?
[23:21] <b33r> ikonia, also it shows that it's only 2kb
[23:21] <Kalmi> ikonia, b33r: you meant sudo apt-get upgrade, right?
[23:21] <artillerytx> ikonia: linux lpcr-server 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:21] <meathead> the humpty dance is yo chance so do the hump
[23:21] <ikonia> meathead: thats not needed in this channel please
[23:21] <ikonia> artillerytx: rats, I thought a generic device would have allowed you to see it
[23:22] <ikonia> artillerytx: enought to atlease use driver manager to get the proper ones
[23:22] <Kalmi> b33r, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (I dunno what it does, but it always allowed me install "kept back" packages...
[23:22] <ikonia> artillerytx: does driver manager offer anything ?
[23:22] <artillerytx> ikonia: um let me check
[23:22] <ikonia> Kalmi: if you don't know what it does - best to not offer it as advice
[23:22] <b33r> Kalmi, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/228601/
[23:22] <artillerytx> ikonia: where is driver manager
[23:23] <ikonia> artillerytx: did you install the desktop CD - or just the desktop kernel
[23:23] <artillerytx> i downloaded the desktop version of ubuntu off the site
[23:23] <ikonia> artillerytx: should be "system->administration->hardware drivers"
[23:23] <joetheodd> Hey guys.. a kind of non-ubuntu question here. I'm trying to dual boot Karmic and XP for school, and I split my ext3 partition and left 50GB at the end for Windows, created a partition there and formated it fat32 (can't use ntfs with gparted). The Windows installer claims that there's no hard drives on this machine. Any ideas?
[23:23] <Kalmi> ikonia, b33r: ok... now I know what it does... looked at the man page... go.. try it :D
[23:23] <b33r> Kalmi, dist-upgrade installs the 9.04 right? I don't want that
[23:24] <Kalmi> b33r, wrong
[23:24] <ikonia> joetheodd: that's offtopic for here
[23:24] <ikonia> Kalmi: I know what it does thanks
[23:24] <artillerytx> ikonia: oh okay yeah is says " no proprietary drivers are in use on this system "
[23:24] <b33r> Kalmi, then what does it do?
[23:24] <joetheodd> ikonia, I know but I'm at a loss for where else to go.
[23:24] <ikonia> artillerytx: doesn't offer it though
[23:24] <Phuzion> I got an idea joe
[23:24] <ikonia> joetheodd: ##windows
[23:24] <Phuzion> Windows sucks
[23:24] <Phuzion> lol
[23:24] <FloodBot1> Phuzion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <artillerytx> ikonia: yeah there is nothing
[23:24] <ikonia> Phuzion: that's not needed either please
[23:24] <ikonia> artillerytx: that's dissapointing
[23:24] <ltgg> anyone running WinXP in VirtualBox and knows how to access shared folders from within XP?? I am stumped
[23:24] <dsdeiz> my firefox became damn slow, should i remove .mozilla? :S
[23:24] <joetheodd> Phuzion, unfortunately the college I'm going to disagrees.
[23:24] <Phuzion> was just a joke
[23:25] <joetheodd> ltgg, they're network drives.
[23:25] <Kalmi> b33r, from apt-get's man page: "dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages"
[23:25] <artillerytx> ikonia: so can i download the driver from somewhere
[23:25] <joetheodd> ltgg, open my computer, Tools -> Map Network Drive. The rest should be N.B.
[23:25] <Phuzion> yes Joe, well everyone will have their own opinions on it of course I've had nothing but problems w/ Windows computers
[23:25] <ikonia> artillerytx: looks like your going to have to
[23:25] <gnat_x> hey folks. i just installed jaunty on a machine but am having issues getting the pci wireless card to work. it shows up in lspci but doesn't show up in dmesg or anywhere else.
[23:25] <ikonia> artillerytx: dissapointing
[23:25] <Kalmi> b33r, meaning: it will let you install packages that need new packages...
[23:25] <ikonia> !apt-on-cd
[23:25] <ikonia> !aptoncd
[23:25] <b33r> Kalmi, aha ok thanks it showed me 170mb upgrades now
[23:25] <artillerytx> ikonia: hmm well the dell website has redhat drivers but i don't think those work for ubuntu
[23:25] <bobo>  hey guys, ive recently been given an update for pulsse audio, but when i try to install it it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/228572/
[23:25] <ikonia> artillerytx: check out that info
[23:26] <ikonia> !aptoncd > artillerytx
[23:26] <ikonia> !offline > artillerytx
[23:26] <Kalmi> b33r, I dunno why the GUI didn't let you do it... file a bug maybe...
[23:26] <Vinceman> how can you contact people who are logged into your computer?
[23:26] <gnat_x> i've set up ndiswrapper, and added what i'm pretty sure are the right drivers. they are there. ndiswrapper -l shows the driber installed but no device.
[23:26] <Mike_lifeguard> I have an external HD attached... what do I need to do to make it safe to remove it?
[23:27] <b33r> Kalmi, ok thanks anyway I'm gonna do it gonna take a while on 16kbps :(   ;P
[23:27] <Kalmi> Vinceman, you throw a stone at them
[23:27] <Phuzion> Though my problem doesn't seem to be as bad as others in this room, I consistently have problems with Pigeon when tryin to log into my Yahoo ID and only Yahoo, and it completely shuts pigeon down... any suggestions?
[23:27] <arleslie> bobo, are you running it under sudo?
[23:27] <artillerytx> ikonia: apt on cd arlight
[23:27] <ikonia> artillerytx: perfect
[23:27] <Vinceman> Kalmi!
[23:27] <artillerytx> ikonia: haha but what package do i download
[23:27] <ikonia> Phuzion: yahoo is currently borked on pidgin I think
[23:27] <bobo> arleslie, i think so, its just that automatic GUI update thing that pops up every now and then
[23:27] <Kalmi> Phuzion, run Pidgin from a terminal and tell us what you see when it unexpectedly quits...
[23:27] <bobo> ill try it in terminal
[23:27] <ikonia> artillerytx: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:27]  * Dekko just wants you to know that now it seems my usplash is back to working.... SOMEHOW after changing things with startupmanager
[23:27] <artillerytx> ikonia: alright let me try that
[23:28] <Phuzion> ikonia: I think so too, a friend of mine fixed it once, and it just started again
[23:28] <ltgg> joetheodd: thanks
[23:28] <artillerytx> ikonia: do i have to have ubuntu to use aptoncd?
[23:28] <ikonia> Phuzion: they recently changed the protocol, it causes me problems
[23:28] <bobo> arleslie: yeah it fails on sudo
[23:28] <ikonia> artillerytx: no, but it's a good way to get all the deps
[23:28] <artillerytx> ikonia: i only have os x and windows
[23:28] <MattPhilie> What do I do so I can view a folder? I got this.. 'ou do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents'
[23:29] <ikonia> artillerytx: you can do it manually
[23:29] <Dekko> I just wonder.... is there a thing such as a system optimizer or crap cleaner for Ubuntu/Linux?
[23:29] <MattPhilie> You*
[23:29] <Jimmio1> Hey Everyone. I broke Firefox... I installed 3.5 and it was named Shiretoko... uninstalled that, and accidentally removed 3.0 too, lost bookmarks and everything x.x
[23:29] <ikonia> Dekko: not really
[23:29] <ikonia> Jimmio1: re-install 3
[23:29] <Dekko> ikonia: okay...
[23:29] <Jimmio1> ikonia: Did.
[23:29] <artillerytx> ikonia: okay go to packages.ubuntu.com ?
[23:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a way to change the /dev/sdxx labels? Right now I have /dev/sda[1,2,5,6,7] instead of 1-5 O.o
[23:29] <Kalmi> Jimmio1, it's unlikely that you lost your bookmarks
[23:29] <ikonia> Jimmio1: your working again then
[23:29] <Jimmio1> Kalmi: Bookmarks toolbar is gone, Firefox logo is missing...
[23:29] <Phuzion> Kalmi I opened a terminal, but I'm not exactly sure how to run pidgin from it?
[23:30] <ikonia> Phuzion: type pidgin
[23:30] <Kalmi> PhotoJim, pidgin<enter> :)
[23:30] <Weed37> hi guys i am having issues with brasero burning softare for ubuntu can anybody assist me
[23:30] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | Weed37
[23:30] <MattPhilie> Guys.. what do I do? I got this.. 'You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents'
[23:30] <Phuzion> oops, sorry I opened Term Server client
[23:30] <bobo> weed37 (lol): what you need?
[23:30] <Kalmi> Jimmio1, I have no idea what you have done to your firefox...
[23:30] <Phuzion> still fairly new to Ubuntu
[23:30] <artillerytx> ikonia: okay i downloaded it
[23:31] <Kalmi> !permissions | MattPhilie
[23:31] <Weed37> ok i get an error this is a output file http://pastebin.com/f3441174c
[23:31] <Mike_lifeguard> Jimmio1: you should still have all config unless you used apt-get's purge option (or similar)
[23:31] <bobo> ok hold on
[23:31] <ikonia> artillerytx: install it with dpkg -i
[23:31] <arleslie> !detail | Weed37
[23:31] <artillerytx> okay
[23:32] <arleslie> !details | Weed37
[23:32] <eggenz7> i have a intrepid install that was working beautifully...then yesterday i powerdown to move it to its permanant living quarters...now when i power up it get "boot from (hd0,0) ext *UUID#'s*
 ok i get an error this is a output file http://pastebin.com/f3441174c
[23:32] <artillerytx> ikonia: how do i locate the file
[23:32] <ikonia> eggenz7: what do you get an when
[23:32] <bobo> weed37: i cant help you sorry
[23:32] <ikonia> artillerytx: you know where you put it
[23:32] <eggenz7> then it says "Starting up ..." and it never loads
[23:32] <artillerytx> its on the desktop
[23:32] <arleslie> Weed37, what are you doing to get the error
[23:33] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: Are you *sure* it is using the right UUID(s)?
[23:33] <Weed37> #burning a data cd
[23:33] <ikonia> artillerytx: ok - so go to the desktop
[23:33] <eggenz7> well i dont have any experiance with uuids..how do i check them?
[23:33] <ikonia> eggenz7: blkid
[23:33] <bobo> oh ok so when i run cube 2: sauerbraten and i try to do it in windowed mode, it closes the screen and all i can see is my desktop
[23:33] <artillerytx> oh i can just double click it
[23:33] <bobo> i went from fullscreen -> windowed
[23:33] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: are you in a live session on that machine?
[23:33] <ikonia> artillerytx: ahh you mean in the termianl it's cd ~/Desktop
[23:33] <adante> eggenz7: fire up a livecd, in a console type 'blkid', compare it with the entries in your grub.conf
[23:34] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, i can get a grub prompt yes
[23:34] <artillerytx> ikonia: yeah but the package install pretty much the same thing right
[23:34] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: also, what do you mean by "move it to its permanent living quarters"?
[23:34] <Phuzion> Kalmi: it doesn't quit when running from a Terminal or opening by the icon, it only quits when I log into Yahoo, but not AIM
[23:34] <ikonia> artillerytx: dpkg will give you more info on what's going on
[23:34] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, instead of beside my desk it goes into a closet
[23:34] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, so not a change in hardware
[23:34] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: that's not a live session, but I think you can still get the uuids from there... let me remember how
[23:34] <Weed37> u guys know if there is a brasero irc
[23:34] <Kalmi> Phuzion, try loggin into Yahoo than, while running from the terminal :)
[23:35] <Viking_> hi there
[23:35] <Phuzion> ok
[23:35] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, i sure hope so..it might take an hour to get a live cd booted..the cdrom on this thing sucks
[23:35] <Viking_> composite error on logout on ubuntu 9.04 64 bit
[23:35] <Phuzion> Kalmi, it tells me Segmentation fault
[23:35] <Viking_> any idea howto solve
[23:35] <artillerytx> ikonia: alright did ... says setting up ubuntu -resstricted extras
[23:35] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: if you type help is there a uuid command?
[23:36] <ikonia> artillerytx: sounds good, well done
[23:36] <ltgg> joetheodd: problem solved ... so easy!
[23:36] <artillerytx> ikonia: haha no what
[23:36] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, yes..it says "uuid UUID"
[23:36] <ikonia> artillerytx: open restricted driver manager - you may have to reboot first
[23:36] <eggenz7> and it spits out the uuids for each of the drives
[23:36] <Bob_Dole> So suddenly firefox quit rendering CSS correctly
[23:36] <artillerytx> yeah i already looked at it and there was still nothing
[23:37] <ikonia> artillerytx: reboot first
[23:37] <artillerytx> im rebooting now
[23:37] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: experiment with that? It should be able to print out the uuids for your system (but I'm not sure how easy it'll be to tell which one you should be booting from)
[23:37] <Viking_> composite error on logout
[23:37] <ikonia> artillerytx: hope I've told you the right package
[23:37] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: if need be, you can just have it search for stage2 on each uuid in turn :\
[23:37] <cooper77z> hello, how do I make firefox open home page after pressing control+t ?
[23:37] <Kalmi> Phuzion, well... that's not really helpful.. :) err... anything else?
[23:37] <artillerytx> ikonia: if not no big deal
[23:37] <artillerytx> ikonia:  but thank you for your help either way
[23:37] <eggenz7> i know which drive does it...ill try this and see what happends
[23:37] <ikonia> artillerytx: no problem
[23:37] <MattPhilie> Kalmi: There are so many.. umm what command do I do ? Sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu.. I just need to figure this out
[23:37] <Mike_lifeguard> cooper77z: I think tab mix plus has a setting for that -- addons.mozilla.com or whatever
[23:38] <Phuzion> Kalmi that's all It's telling me? I opened Terminal, typed Pidgin, and that is all it gave me
[23:38] <Phuzion> after tryin to sign in
[23:38] <artillerytx> ikonia: i just don't understand why the port is showing green and a orange activity but ubuntu can't see it
[23:38] <ikonia> artillerytx: it just means there is a link on it, that is nothing to do with the OS
[23:38] <ikonia> artillerytx: what does ifconfig -a show ?
[23:39] <edbian> artillerytx: That light will work whent he system is off!
[23:39] <cooper77z> thanks mike_lifeguard, I'll check
[23:39] <Viking_> jaunty composite error on logout
[23:39] <Kalmi> Phuzion, are you using a HTTP proxy?
[23:39] <artillerytx> it shows local loopback
[23:39] <ikonia> artillerytx: raths
[23:39] <ikonia> rats
[23:39] <artillerytx> and the driver manager is still blank
[23:39] <artillerytx> nothing there
[23:39] <MattPhilie> Can anyone tell me exactly what to do for this error? 'You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "ircd-hybrid".'?
[23:40] <ikonia> artillerytx: you need someone with an ubuntu desktop to open synaptic and search for broadcom to get the package name then
[23:40] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: looks like a permission error?
[23:40] <ikonia> artillerytx: I've not got an ubuntu box running here at the moment
[23:40] <Viking_>  jaunty composite error on logout
[23:40] <ikonia> Viking_: please stop saying that
[23:40] <ikonia> Viking_: ask a clear question
[23:40] <Phuzion> Kalmi, Gnome
[23:40] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, UUID's match...
[23:40] <Mike_lifeguard> !permissions | MattPhilie
[23:40] <artillerytx> alright what about a live cd version that should work right
[23:40] <Viking_> ikonia what is not clear about that
[23:41] <ikonia> artillerytx: no - as you won't have a network card on that
[23:41] <arleslie> !details | Viking_
[23:41] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: k, remind me where it gets stuck while booting?
[23:41] <artillerytx> ikonia: no i mean on another machine
[23:41] <ikonia> artillerytx: sure
[23:41] <artillerytx> ikonia: alright let me try that
[23:41] <Viking_> i just did jaunty 64 bit
[23:41] <eggenz7> as soon as grub tries to load the kernel..it says "starting up ..." then computer locks up
[23:41] <Samm> !info lxde
[23:41] <artillerytx> ikonia: what do i do once i find the driver
[23:42] <ikonia> artillerytx: download the package as you did ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:42] <arleslie> Viking_, What were you doing while it errored
[23:42] <artillerytx> kk
[23:42] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: I had that problem once, but give me a moment to see if I can remember what I did to fix it... (I could have sworn it was messed up uuids) :\
[23:42] <Viking_> nothing like i say it is error when logging out
[23:42] <Viking_> i have clean install of jaunty
[23:42] <arleslie> Viking_, then whats the error
[23:42] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: Have you tried dropping to grub prompt and manaully booting it?
[23:42] <Viking_> and all it says is  composite error on logout
[23:43] <eggenz7> yes...i tried to chainloader method...did the same thign
[23:43] <Viking_> i composite errror
[23:43] <Viking_> thats it
[23:43] <eggenz7> let me try to the configfile method
[23:43] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: I was just linked to that.. But there were tooooo many to choose from. How do I do it exactly? Sorry, I'm a noob
[23:43] <Phuzion> Kalmi, I am using Gnome Proxy Settings
[23:44] <SomePriest> If one has a 64 bit processor, is there any reason to use 32bit ubuntu over 64?  Generally speaking are the same amount of packages and kernel modules available for both 32 and 64 bit?
[23:44] <Kalmi> Phuzion, is everything unchecked there?
[23:44] <ikonia> SomePriest: no massive difference unless there is over 4gb of ram, things like flash are still beta in 64bit nativly
[23:44] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, same thing....it really acts like a kernel problem but i have no idea how to get into it ot fix it
[23:44] <dsdeiz> my firefox just became very slow... how would i approach this?
[23:44] <Condoulo> ok, if I install and set up an NFS share on my other PC, how would I view them on my main PC (I already have nfs-common and its dependencies installed)
[23:45] <SomePriest> ikonia, 1.5GB RAM.  Is there much performance gain for JUST a desktop user between 32 bit and 64?
[23:45] <Grizmawe> SomePriest, some things are a little less stable in the 64bit versions but are rapidly improving. 64bit OS is not needed unless you have 4GB+ ram
[23:45] <edbian> dsdeiz: Take a look at top to make sure something else isn't hogging resources.  Run dmesg to look for random errors
[23:45] <Phuzion> yes Kalmi... my only options to check anything is Yahoo Japan and Ignore conference invitations
[23:45] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: Can you show me the line for whatever you're trying to look at from "ls -l"?
[23:45] <SomePriest> Grizmawe ikonia : Thank you.
[23:45] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: doesn't sound like a kernel problem to me... you'll normally get good error info for those
[23:45] <SomePriest> Grizmawe : Doesn't addressing 64 bits make for faster processing though, RAM aside?
[23:45] <Grizmawe> SomePriest, 64bit is just the ability to access more that 4GB ram address space
[23:46] <Kalmi> Phuzion, System -> Preferences -> Network proxy and make sure nothing is checked
[23:46] <cooper77z> That made it work mike_lifeguard, thanks again --- Now to remove epiphany
[23:46] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: So, when you try to boot manually, what happens?
[23:46] <Mike_lifeguard> cooper77z: good call, horrid thing :)
[23:46] <Kalmi> Phuzion, I mean direct connection...
[23:46] <ikonia> SomePriest: either would be fine
[23:47] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, it says the same thing as if it were to boot on its own, "Boot from (hd0,0) ext3 *UIDD*                               Starting up ...."
[23:47] <cooper77z> yea, I think epiphany was causing download problems
[23:47] <Phuzion> Kalmi that's correct, direct connection
[23:47] <Viking_> i am not new using linux i been using linux now last 18 years
[23:47] <Mike_lifeguard> ugh
[23:47] <edbian> SomePriest: It allows the system to handel more data in each thread.  Technically it is twice as fast as 32 bit but you have to find a program that takes advantage of this fact.
[23:47] <Kalmi> Phuzion, yes...
[23:47] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: Sorry, I don't know what the problem is :(
[23:47] <Condoulo> using NFS, how would I set it up to view files on the client side?
[23:47] <edbian> SomePriest: Most programmers do not bother themselves with a version of their software that is optimized for 64 bit arch.
[23:47] <Viking_> thanks for the help
[23:48] <SomePriest> edbian, I know, I'm one of those types that doesn't.
[23:48] <Kalmi> Phuzion, well... no proxy bug than... try updating pidgin: http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[23:48] <Viking_> i gues i will have to try www.talk2experts.com
[23:48] <Grizmawe> SomePriest, maybe for double precision floating point operations but generally no
[23:48] <SomePriest> Ok, thanks all.
[23:48] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: Do you know what you're doing, or do you need help?
[23:48] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: Huh? Sorry, I am a REAL big noob
[23:48] <Condoulo> what is a good client to use when connecting to an NFS server?
[23:48] <edbian> SomePriest: :)  ha ha.  Yeah the general rule of thumb is: "don't switch to 64bit software unless you want to use more than 4GB of ram"
[23:48]  * SomePriest is off to eat dinner
[23:48] <CraigGB> SomePriest: personally i find 64 bit better even though i only have 1gb or ram, its seems better in some areas for me, that might just be in the mind though :), im mostly using it because the 64 bit version of jaunty hibernates on my hardware whereas the 32 bit version had trouble, but i've had no problems with anything i tried including flash
[23:49] <artillerytx> ikonia: i don't really see anything ... there is braodcom firmware thing - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=b43&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[23:49] <Condoulo> (preferably through the UI)
[23:49] <dsdeiz> edbian: yupz, it firefox eating resources right
[23:49] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: ok, you just have to let me know you need help :)
[23:49] <Phuzion> Kalmi, thanks I'll look into that, a friend of mine who turned me on to Ubuntu helped me last time with this issue, we set back Pidgin to the older version, for whatever reason the newest one cause the issue when it was downloaded
[23:49] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: do you have a terminal open?
[23:49] <dsdeiz> i'll check again using 'dmesg' later on
[23:49] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: Yes I do
[23:49] <MichaelAmane> Hi anyone know how to get 2 displays + tv out working on a compaq presario c751nr laptop under jaunty?
[23:49] <edbian> dsdeiz: Unfortunately firefox is just a resource hog on linux.  Short and simple :(
[23:49] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: ok, what is the full path to what you're trying to see? You want to do "cd /path/to/whatever"
[23:50] <dsdeiz> edbian: though last time it wasn't this heavy
[23:50] <Mike_lifeguard> (unless you're already in that dir)
[23:50] <Grizmawe> MichaelAmane, for the dual display, try looking at xinerama
[23:50] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: I am in the /etc folder trying to view a folder inside of it
[23:50] <Okay> when I open my trash, the empty button is white-out. Any suggestions?
[23:50] <edbian> dsdeiz: kill it and restart.  Does that solve the problem?
[23:50] <LordVorp> so I just got a laptop, and put ubuntu on it.  then I noticed the keys were a little weird.  then I figured out that it had a UK keyboard (?!).  How can I (or can at all?) alter the Keyboard (country) layout after install?
[23:50] <MichaelAmane> I can two of them working but not all three
[23:50] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: remind me what the name of it is? something about ircd?
[23:50] <dsdeiz> edbian: nope. sorry
[23:50] <LordVorp> (for context, I assumed it was US, so it's set to US)
[23:50] <edbian> dsdeiz: Besides identifying the problem there isn't much you can do.
[23:51] <dsdeiz> i was thinking of removing .mozilla first
[23:51] <edbian> dsdeiz: Make sure that the actual process ends.  You can either watch it in top or the GUI system monitor
[23:51] <artillerytx> ikonia: man i don't know what to do
[23:51] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: it is the path: /etc/ircd-hybrid and it says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "ircd-hybrid".
[23:51] <edbian> dsdeiz: That will help if firefox is configured poorly.  But you will also loose your bookmarks if you do that.
[23:51] <DJNomad> can anyone tell me where to find fstab ? I am looking to make 2nd hdd auto mount
[23:52] <LordVorp> DJNomad: /etc/fstab ?
[23:52] <edbian> DJNomad: /etc/fstab :)
[23:52] <DJNomad> k thanks
[23:52] <Kalmi> !info locate | DJNomad
[23:52] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: ok, can you paste for me the output of "ls -l | grep ircd-hybrid"?
[23:53] <Okay> when I open my trash, the empty button is white-out. Any suggestions?
[23:53] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: In a terminal correct?
[23:53] <Mike_lifeguard> yes
[23:53] <mgmuscari> does anybody know why styles defined in userContent.css are not being applied to firefox? this is driving me crazy. i can even see the styles in firebug but they are not being applied to inputs
[23:53] <Condoulo> I'm wanting to share files between two Ubuntu machines possibly using NFS. I've got a shared folder setup on the computer I want to store the files on, how would I access them from this PC?
[23:54] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard. I did that and it did nothing it just started a new clean line
[23:54] <artillerytx> ikonia: i found linux drivers on broadcoms website
[23:54] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: k, just do "ls -l" and pastebin it for me?
[23:54] <DJNomad> this is what i found how to auto mount ,does it look right ?/dav/sdb1 /seconddrive ext3 defaults 0 0
[23:54] <forces> hello
[23:54] <Janhouse> Is it possible to store synaptic (and other apps) sudo password in keyring in ubuntu jaunty?
[23:54] <DJNomad> I already made a directory called 120 so I will change the w seconddrive
[23:55] <Mike_lifeguard> DJNomad: looks ok, yes
[23:55] <mgmuscari> Janhouse: that sounds like a bad idea
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Janhouse: don't think so
[23:55] <DJNomad> thanks 2 m2i2llion ya2ll
[23:55] <forces> what is the package's name for install the new ubuntu notifications?
[23:55] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: OK one sec
[23:55] <eggenz7> Mike_lifeguard, is there any other options that i can do with a live cd?
[23:55] <Janhouse> really no?
[23:55] <Jimmio1> Alright, so Firefox works. None of the preferences do, and the page load progress bar at the bottom doesn't work
[23:55] <Janhouse> lame. Ubuntu fails again
[23:55] <edbian> forces: They should be there be default.
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Janhouse: no
[23:55] <mgmuscari> Janhouse: that would probably compromise the security of your system dude
[23:55] <Viking_> ok i will try last time  composite error on logout ubuntu 9.04
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Janhouse: having to enter your sudo  password when  doing admin stuff, is there for security reasons
[23:55] <Mike_lifeguard> eggenz7: you could look at your menu.lst and/or /etc/fstab
[23:55] <Condoulo> what can I use on my main Ubuntu machine, to access NFS shared that are enabled on my other machine.
[23:56] <Jimmio1> not to mention it's slow as hell... Do I really have to reinstall Ubuntu just to fix Firefox? This is really really really annoying..
[23:56] <Janhouse> I don't care about the security. I want to store it in keyring
[23:56] <mgmuscari> Janhouse: linux is basically designed to be secure
[23:56] <sebsebseb> Janhouse: KDE  can save passwords for programs and such,  but  probably not the sudo password
[23:56] <Janhouse> I still should unlock the keyring....
[23:56] <mgmuscari> Janhouse: Ubuntu doesn't even let you log in as root
[23:57] <sebsebseb> mgmuscari: well you can if you know what your doing
[23:57] <MattPhilie> Mike_lifeguard: http://www.pastebin.com/m16b3256b
[23:57] <abioticrhyme> hello
[23:57] <Janhouse> ok, so you have no idea.
[23:57] <edbian> Janhouse: If you don't care about security just configure your system to let you log in as root and be done with the whole password business.
[23:57] <mgmuscari> sebsebseb: i'll redact that and say that it doesn't make it EASY to log in as root
[23:57] <Janhouse> thx
[23:57] <sebsebseb> Janhouse: in Windows XP, people shoudn't be using admin all the time, again for security reasons
[23:57] <DJNomad> can someone tell me how to open etc fstab with root priveledges from terminal ?
[23:57] <somebody> i want a script to run at boot do i just drop it in /etc/init.d ?
[23:57] <edbian> Janhouse: It is totally against the linux security policy btw
[23:57] <edbian> DJNomad: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[23:57] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie: There's no post there?
[23:57] <forces> edbian, I want the package name
[23:58] <edbian> somebody: It's a little more complicated than that.
[23:58] <Okay> when I open my trash, the empty button is white-out. Any suggestions?
[23:58] <edbian> forces: I don't know :(
[23:58] <sebsebseb> Janhouse: I know  it can be annoying to have to type in your password,  but  your sudo password is one that should be good, and one that you protect
[23:58] <Mike_lifeguard> MattPhilie, eggenz7: Sorry guys, I gotta run for a bit (1/2 hour?) I'm sure someone else here will be able to help you, but if not, feel free to ping me later
[23:58] <edbian> forces: Search synaptic.
[23:58] <forces> does anyone know what is the package's name for install the new ubuntu notifications?
[23:58] <mgmuscari> Janhouse: if it really bugs you, do sudo su and change your sudo password to an empty string :p
[23:58] <sebsebseb> mgmuscari: don't give bad advice
[23:58] <DJNomad> I use mousepad I believe ..I am using xfce
[23:58] <forces> edbian, search what? more than 15,000 packages
[23:59] <mgmuscari> sebsebseb: i'm just being facetious. i already said that doesn't sound like a good idea
[23:59] <Jimmio1> Nevermind all, added a firefox lauchpad source and installed 3.6, working perfectly and bookmarks came back...
[23:59] <somebody> edbian ,maby i do not need to use my dirty script , i want to modprobe ndiswrapper and dhcpclient to my wireless acces point?
[23:59] <Lostinspace_46> Hi all. I am running Jaunty. I am having a problem with my xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml file.  Some of the properties work fine, and others don't work at all. Shouldn't they ALL either work or not since they are all in the same file (which contains most all of System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts)?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> mgmuscari: well they might actsaully do it
[23:59] <debclair> hi everyone, my Caps Lock led (the one that turns on when you press the key) does not work anymore, can anybody help me?
[23:59] <mgmuscari> i don't suppose anybody else here has tried to use userContent.css and userChrome.css to style the input boxes and buttons in firefox...
[23:59] <edbian> forces: I think the ubuntu notifications are part of the ubuntu-desktop package
[23:59] <debclair> (caps locks works all right)