[00:46] is it possible to mount a slave drive for use with unetbootin? I am using a wubi install of xubuntu 8.10 on a win98 computer === Pici` is now known as Pici [07:40] Hi! I have a problem with my Xubuntu. It freezes before I'm able to log in. It also froze when I tried the LiveCD. I made the install with the alternate cd, and everything went fine, but as mentioned earlier, it freezes before I'm able to log in. Do you guys have any idea? [07:45] Anyone here? [08:03] it might be a video driver issue [08:03] are you able to get into one of the tty? [08:03] Im sorry, tty? [08:04] its a console [08:04] terminal/console [08:04] Where do I get into that? [08:04] you do the following key combinations: Ctrl+Alt+F{1-7} [08:05] When do I press that? [08:05] you press that when your screen freezes, if that doesn't work try doing it before it freezes [08:06] okay.. just a sec [08:06] fyi, Ctrl+Alt+F7 is xorg server [08:09] okay.. I just logged in in the console [08:09] I'd use top to see if xorg is using lots of cpu [08:10] probably not, even if not, there should be info in the xorg.log [08:11] xorg is using >1 % [08:11] hmm and so the login screen is frozen right? [08:12] It allways freezes when I get to the login screen yes, and often the entire screen is transformed in to a million vertican lines in different color [08:13] yeah the signs of driver issue [08:13] which video chip you got? [08:13] ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 AGP (0x4E50) [08:29] Any news? [08:42] psycho_oreos ? [08:46] why does xfce use 253 MB of ram whereas gnome uses 234? [08:47] thats odd ARMENIAN, gnome uses 2x more memory than xfce on my laptop [08:48] jadez03: could it be that i installed ubuntu then i did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop rather than doing and install with the xubuntu cd? [08:48] but i dont think that should be the problem [08:48] i mean with compiz on in gnome i go to the process viewer and it shows that it uses more :( [08:50] use less* [08:50] uses* less than xfce [08:58] jadez03: how much ram is xfce using for u? [09:14] Mugga, you'll need to try to enable vesa mode I suppose, get by for a bit and then get either the open sourced drivers or the proprietary (fglrx) [09:14] !vesa [09:14] vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x [09:14] !x [09:14] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [09:15] the link to that resolution of X problem contains some useful info [09:23] hi [09:30] http://img5.imagebanana.com/view/o0ihxzx/firefoxkaputt.png < how do i get rid of the f*cking backshlash that firefox makes everytime i write a search in ""? [09:37] psycho_oreos I read that it was my chip is the problem because it isn't updated anymore [09:37] https://danishbits.org/redir.php?url=http://tan-com.com/posts/technology/linux-os/fix-ubuntu-904-ati-driver-issue [09:37] http://tan-com.com/posts/technology/linux-os/fix-ubuntu-904-ati-driver-issue [09:38] I just downloaded an old version of xubuntu 6.06, and the live cd works great... can I perform the "trick" as the link above shows, or do I have to update xubuntu first? [09:45] Mugga, that second link, you may as well do it in jaunty because its suited to jaunty and its a lot less mucking around compared to upgrading feisty (I think) [09:47] how do I open in vesa mode then? [09:48] well don't :) just follow the guide on the second link you posted, do it all in the terminal/console [09:49] And that I can't do in 6.06, right? [09:52] vesa mode? you probably can, but what's the point? 9.04 has the latest kernel and all the nice little features that comes with it. 6.06 is outdated and is only useful should you find 9.04 in your case worse than how 6.06 would have performed.. if you were to use 6.06 and update it to 9.04, you have to download literally everything and who knows what the outcome will be like. You'll probably end up with a stuffed up system configurat [09:52] ion to give you more headaches [09:52] you've said before you were using 9.04 so why forcefully switch to 6.06 and upgrade it to the latest? wouldn't that be far more effort? [09:53] But I haven't been able to log in at all in 9.04, so how do I follow the guide with no internet set up and all? [09:54] well weren't you doing it whilst I was helping you before? or is that the only computer you have? [09:55] I have 2 computers but the one I'm trying to use Xubuntu on isn't setup because I've never been able to log in [09:56] yeah but if you can log in via console (which you did say before that you could) then why not have one computer with the screen on that page and on the other set it up? or print it out? [09:56] those commands don't require GUI for that matter [09:57] But the guide says that it needed an internet connection to be able to perform the commands properly [10:00] well let the other computer have the internet for a bit and load up that page, unplug the network cable and use the computer that needs setting up have internet access, simple [10:00] don't you have router at home? lol [10:02] okay, but there's a step that seems to be impossible to do without gui: "In gedit, simply select the word “jaunty” anywhere in the file and click on “Replace” on the tool bar. When the dialogue box comes up, type “intrepid” into the box labeled “Replace With:” and click “Find” then “Replace All”" [10:03] I guess you can do it by hand, copy the file across via `sneaker' net setup or learn using some of the CLI editors [10:06] This is getting too complicated... I appreciate your help, but I think I have to find someone that can do this for me... Sorry to have wasted your time :( [11:22] When I'm trying to run a run-able script from terminal or mc, I get an error message "bash: command x not found" -> example -> in folder /home/parek/nquake I want to run a file called ezquake-gl.glx, however, even if I am in that folder and write ezquake-gl.glx, I get that error message, the same thing when trying to run it in mc or thunar [11:22] Have I accidentaly changed something? :O [11:25] <_Pete_> check it has +x permissions set [11:29] yes [11:29] <_Pete_> and what does it say when in folder you do: ./ezquake-gl.glx [11:29] bash: command not found [11:29] <_Pete_> with ./ [11:29] <_Pete_> in front also? [11:31] yes [11:36] jbk`: what is the exact and complete error message please ? [11:38] SiDi: bash: command ezquake-gl.glx not found [11:38] probably googled the reason [11:38] since I've got an x86_64 kernel and it has probably been compiled for a 32bit kernel [11:39] so I'm downloading an x86_64 version right now [11:39] and I'll see if is it going to help [11:39] <_Pete_> btw what is nquake? [11:39] If it's a script it's not compiled [11:39] _Pete_: A package containing a port of a game called quakeworld called "ezquake" + maps [11:40] true, it's not a script in this case [11:40] (-: [11:40] <_Pete_> homepage? [11:40] nquake.com [11:40] <_Pete_> thx [11:40] please type : "cd ~/nquake && ls -l" [11:41] yes, it does have -x permissions [11:41] I was more worried about knowing if you were in the good folder :p [11:42] :)))) [11:42] alright, I was right [11:42] <_Pete_> jbk`: 32bit apps should also run on 64bit systems [11:42] _Pete_: well [11:42] downloaded a 64bit executioner [11:42] and it works now [11:42] :) [11:42] <_Pete_> good then [12:29] hi all, can anyone tell me how to get notify-osd to work in xubuntu? [13:40] I made useradd guest and now trying to log in w/o paswword couse password isn't specified but it say username or password incorect [13:40] also tryd making passeword and then -d [13:43] didn't work. [13:43] here is somekind manual solution for distros like #! who has gdm http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/05-2004/10149.html [13:45] hi [13:46] i have recently installed xubuntu 9.04 but i can't see computer icon [13:46] creative: you firs time using? itz not windowz it has aint no cumputer lol icon :) [13:47] yes i am using it first time, but i have used ubuntu 8.10 there i can see computer icon [13:48] hehe I already told :) gimme screenshot with home icon ill tell you made it :) [13:48] on top panel there's Applications And Places open places and navigate in filesystem [13:49] on destop there's only filesystem and home and trash icons by default [13:49] and when plugged in usb device its icon also I put on desktop [13:50] i can see file system, but i can't see any logical partitionm which i have made for my home folder [13:50] no computer icon [13:51] if you installed easy mode (not advanced) then its in Places -> (your usrname) [13:51] if i want to store any thing on my logical partition how can i do that? [13:53] files you can store in home folder username folder . /home/"usrname"/ folder contains folders- desktop pictures video documents [13:55] if i store video under video than will that store in logical drive [13:56] Yes [13:58] my home folder is on logical drive "Var" can i change that name of that folder to any other name and can put the same shortcut on desktop [13:59] didn't understand. maybe someone else can answer to this. [14:00] i mean to say can i change the logical drive name for better understanding? [14:01] how did you made logical drive name Var? is linux installed in Var? [14:05] at the time of installing i made partition for logical drive i got this name by default [14:06] if you installed easy mode.. I told that.. so you installed advanced mode? [14:08] easy mode [14:24] hello, i am having trouble with java (applets not working even though i installed the JRE). is any1 around to help? [15:51] Hi. I need help. Installed Xubuntu 9.04 via Wubi on an old Compaq Presario C500 notebook. There's this annoying, endless, knocking/clicking sound. What does it mean? How do I stop it? [15:51] where is the sound coming from? [15:52] from inside the notebook === manila1 is now known as tonyo [15:55] help please [15:56] !help | tonyo [15:56] tonyo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:00] too many impatient people [16:30] tonyo's problem was probably this HDD spinning problem [16:30] that's annoying forhim [16:35] Xubuntu is pretty nice [16:35] :D [17:13] hey does anyone here know how to put a program launcher on the Xfce desktop? [17:25] How many RAM does the xubuntu normally consumes? [17:31] Depends whether 32 or 64 b [17:31] its meant to run with 192MB [17:34] 32 [17:34] Ah, thanks! [17:44] if u use the alternate install cd ,then u can just use 128 MB of memory [18:03] Greetings everybody [18:04] Can someone do me a favour compile and run this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2dc12525 and paste me the output here? Thanks in advance! [18:05] MacSlow: heya :D [18:05] SiDi, hi there [18:06] mind posting it in paste.ubuntu.com ? [18:06] cant select lines without the line numbers with pastebin :| [18:06] err whatever [18:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/227948/ [18:06] Thanks [18:07] Now i need to remember how to link libs :| [18:07] see the header of the file [18:08] * SiDi self /facepalm [18:09] window-manager: Xfwm4 [18:09] MacSlow: here we go [18:09] kudos :P [18:09] thx [18:09] np === Odin is now known as Guest83389 [18:41] Any reason why xfce4-keyboard-settings shouldn't work on openbox? Presumably key settings happen in a common handler somewhere? [18:54] Araneidae: i think you need xfce4-settings-helper to run [18:54] For the keyboard shortcuts / settings to work [19:13] Ok, I'll give that a go. I run it up first, I guess? [19:13] Hm: can't connect to session manager (not all that surprising I guess). [19:14] My problem is actually that I want to temporarily disable autorepeat ... and `xset r off` causes mayhem on openbox, for some reason! === Guest83389 is now known as th0r [20:53] will the xubuntu jaunty alternate image work on a powerpc750 600mhz computer with 256mb of ram ? [20:56] i have a imac g3 with powerpc processor that i'm trying to use ubuntu to do diagnostics with. it wont boot to any live cd environemonment. once i was able to get to console, but when i typed, it put alot of spaces between me and the prompt and wouldn't let me issue any commands. i'm trying to check the integrity of the hard drive on it. i also need to check the memory on it, but i can't do that unless i install it to disk [20:57] the xubuntu desktop image, will freeze, with the icon spinning. when it freeze, it wont let me switch to any consoles [21:18] This may be a dumb question, but how do I add more than two workspaces in xfce? [21:19] Danny: Applications Settings Workspaces [21:20] I tried that, I told it 4, but I still only have two [21:20] Danny: open a terminal, type 'ps ax | grep xfwm' and see if xfwm4 is running. I had the same problem, turned out to be metacity running instead of xfwm4 [21:22] and what exactly does that command do? [21:22] Danny: ps ax asks the system to list everything that is running at the moment. grep xfwm tells the ps command to only show lines that contain xfwm [21:23] Danny: the result is that you will only see one or two lines in the printout instead of everything. Try ps ax without the grep to see the diff [21:24] okay, with grep xfwm it doesn't show me anything [21:24] Danny: right....try this...ps ax | grep metacity [21:25] yep, so that shows "32609 pts/0 D+ 0:00 grep metacity" [21:25] so I need to be using xfwm? [21:25] Danny...yup...same problem I had. Let me guess...you installed ubuntu and then installed xfce afterwards? [21:26] yeah, I just wanted to experiment with other desktop environments [21:26] Danny: yeah...exactly the same thing happened to me. You lucked out...it took me three days to figure it out and I had help from the xfce developers [21:26] wow, nice [21:26] Danny: type this in the terminal 'killall metacity && xfwm4' [21:28] Danny: if that fixes your workspace issue, make sure you save the xfce session [21:28] "metacity: no process killed" [21:29] Danny: oops....missed that....wrong line . OK, you have to see what window manager you are running now so you can kill it and start xfwm4. Do you have pastebinit installed? [21:30] nope [21:30] Danny: can you take a minute to install it? [21:30] sure [21:34] okay I used apt-get install pastebinit [21:35] Danny: pastebinit will let you easily upload a log file to the internet so I can get it. [21:35] Danny: we will do this in two steps so you can follow what is going on. First, in a terminal type 'ps ax > ps.log' [21:35] Danny that will tell ps ax to put its output into a file called ps.log instead of printing to the screen [21:36] okay, done [21:36] Danny ok...now type 'pastebinit ps.log' that will tell pastebinit to send the file to the web. It will print a url, a web address, copy and paste that address here so I can get it [21:37] http://pastebin.com/f44159e4c [21:37] there ya go [21:37] Danny ok...now type 'mousepad ps.log' so you can look at the log while I do [21:40] Danny: ok...the problem is you are running compiz which replaced metacity in gnome, and now replaces xfwm4 in xfce. If you want xfce to control the workspaces and other stuff...you need to turn off compiz and turn on xfwm4. Once you do that, you can turn on compositing in xfce, it is a different animal from compiz [21:41] Danny: I think you can get that done with 'killall compiz && xfwm4' but I am not sure...never messed much with compiz. If it hoses up...you willneed to reboot [21:41] all right, I'll try that [21:42] danny you can see compiz running in line 134 of the printout [21:44] okay, I got "** Message: To replace the current window manager, try "--replace" [21:44] ** (xfwm4:1411): WARNING **: Another Window Manager is already running" [21:45] Danny: ok...try xfwm4 --replace (space before --replace) [21:46] that definitely did the trick [21:47] Danny: now....applications - settings - session and startup - session tab. If you want to keep the present setup click on Save Session so it doesn't start compiz again at next bootup [21:47] Danny: the saved session should only apply to xfce, if you go back to gnome you should still have compiz [21:48] sweet, I like my eye candy, but xfce seems pretty cool too. [21:48] Danny: you can get back some of that by turning on composition in xfce...just a sec [21:49] Danny: Applications - Settings - Window Manager Tweaks - Compositor tab...enable display compositing [21:50] Danny: you really got lucky this time . Don't expect this every time you drop by [21:50] yeah thanks === diecastarts is now known as DiecastMessiah [21:51] actually IRC has been pretty good to me whenever I have a problem [21:51] Danny: well, your questions will just keep getting harder to answer . Part of the game [21:53] I have a quick question.. what would you guys suggest for being able to write to an NTFS drive.... i have a new TB ext. drive [21:53] whoa, accidentally closed pidgin there, Thanks again though Th0r [21:53] DiecastMessiah: if it isn't already installed try ntfs-3g [21:54] Danny: np...did you get your workspaces ok? [21:54] yeah I did [21:54] ok...good luck [21:54] thanks.. yeah i can view the drive but not write.. so just wanted to make sure before i install stuff i don't need :) [21:54] yeah, I'll keep playing xubuntu [21:54] Danny: give xfce a good look...I like it a lot more than gnome [21:55] take a special look at thunar...the file manager for xfce [21:55] yeah xfce is great [21:55] it has a lot of custom features [21:55] anything specific that's really cool I should check out? [21:56] I love who it can use both gnome and KDE and plus using hardly any ram at all just to run... got mine down to 76mb [21:56] Danny: in thunar you can define custom actions...which means for instance, that I can right click on an iso file and choose mount from the menu, and it will mount the iso to ~/iso automatically. [21:57] I right click on my audio files and choose Edit from the menu...and it dumps the file into audacity so I can cut it up [21:57] hey thats pretty cool [21:57] you can define commands and scripts to be included in the right click menu, and choose when those commands will show up...for what filetypes [21:58] also look at gigolo...something like network neighbourhood in that other system [21:58] wow i didn't know that... stuff .. i must learn :) [21:59] lots of interesting things buried in xfce [21:59] and gigolo i have to check out to.. i use neighborhood [22:00] make sure you have all the xfce panel plugins installed also...there are some neat features there. [22:00] but I don't use the system monitors in the panel as they put too much load on the system, I use gkrellm instead [22:00] oh i do have ntfs-g3 [22:00] DiecastMessiah: then you should only need to plug in the drive [22:00] oh i can read from it [22:01] was hopful i could write [22:01] should also be able to write to it [22:01] all of my usb drives worked right out of the box...read and write [22:02] well i tryied and even in open thunar as root and still cannot [22:02] DiecastMessiah: type 'mount [22:02] in a terminal and see how the drive is mounted [22:02] pastebin the output [22:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/228433/ [22:05] DiecastMessiah: the drive is mounted read write (rw). It is the last line in the printout [22:06] DiecastMessiah: or is that your cd/dvd? [22:06] nope the last one is the exturnal [22:07] well now it works [22:07] oddness [22:07] DiecastMessiah: it is exactly the same as the line I have now for my usb drive...except for the mountpoint of course [22:07] DiecastMessiah: I am good [22:07] fixed it all the way from here [22:07] mind over matter [22:08] well it odd i never had a ntfs drive write,,, so i always used fat32 on my internal.. but didn't what to change a whole tb drive to that LOL [22:08] I am running psychobuntu...it has a neural interface...I just think about corrections and they happen [22:08] and it didn't work the frist time i glugged it in [22:08] plugged** [22:09] I'm tellin ya...I fixed it [22:09] LOL [22:09] k [22:09] well thanks [22:09] :) [22:09] np...good luck [22:09] th0r: i thought you installed the package that fixes this bug making you tell everyone about psychobuntu and your devilish plans to rule the world ? [22:10] lol [22:10] hehehe....what are we going to do now brain? [22:10] or aren't you a pinky fan? [22:10] one last thing now i think of it... is there any software that better then mountmanager [22:11] DiecastMessiah: for the most part you don't need to mount things...it is pretty much automatic now [22:11] DiecastMessiah: for mounting iso files yo ucan use giosmount [22:11] gisomount [22:11] oh i just use commanline of iso's.. [22:12] nope...gmount-iso...I'll get it right yet [22:12] but i have 2 hd and the secondone i have to use something to get it going [22:12] DiecastMessiah: what is it you want to mount? [22:13] it a 10gb HD internal [22:13] gmount-iso [22:13] DiecastMessiah: create a second mountpoint for the second drive, then create a custom action in thunar to mount the drive [22:13] Err [22:13] !fstab [22:13] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [22:14] DiecastMessiah: if you just need to mount the second one SiDi is right...just add a line to fstab. But if you need to do something special then look at custom actions in thunar [22:15] not special it just a fat32 drive [22:15] DiecastMessiah: then a line in fstab will fix you right up [22:16] DiecastMessiah: look at defining the drives by UUID instead of /dev....that way no matter what order you plug them in they will still mount the same way [22:16] so it in /dev/fstab? [22:17] http://en.zimagez.com/full/9aaa5fad74a50ee76cf1a1e1e2ac62f3a458035c613b373767dce46021736cb7e0a6b111311757e2.php [22:17] DiecastMessiah: /etc/fstab [22:17] k [22:17] I will look at the site to .. me still new to linux [22:18] thanks to you 2 th0r and SiDi [22:18] np [22:19] DiecastMessiah: you're welcome [22:20] mmm looking at this should i make a new floder on the system folder? [22:20] like /HD2 [22:20] or something [22:20] DiecastMessiah: yeah....usually mount points are in /media [22:20] like /media/HD2 [22:20] yeah i was using /media with mouthmanager [22:21] ok thanks again.. === sancas_ is now known as sancas [22:22] a [22:25] fuck pricey [22:26] Rhasta: PM please? [22:45] quit [22:45] oops sorry [22:46] soo... [22:47] How is everyone? [22:55] can someone help me with bug 350784 [22:56] * micahg kicks ubottu [22:57] bug #350784 [22:57] ok, well the question is, where does xfce store the preferred browser setting [23:18] lp 350784 [23:18] bug 350784 [23:18] ok ubottu is on strike for real [23:18] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/350784 [23:20] micahg: i cant find the CLI way but you can do Apps -> Params -> Preferred apps [23:50] SiDi: I need to know where it's stored so that I can have apport updated :) [23:50] asked in XFCE and had no answer [23:51] the answer probably hides in xfbrowser's source code but i'm a but busy at the moment