[00:13] SiDi: I think I figured it out [00:14] What is it ? [00:15] I have to play with it [00:15] but could it be in xfconf-query? [00:18] ii checked xfconf and didnt find it [00:18] yeah [00:18] \I can;t seem to either [00:21] found it ;) [00:21] xfbrowser4 [00:24] [00:50] the answer probably hides in xfbrowser's source code but i'm a but busy at the moment [00:24] a bit * ie. i cant browse it but its somewhere inside the source [00:24] :) [00:24] sorry [00:24] didn't catch that [00:25] xfbrowser4 %url% will work for m [00:25] e [01:21] Hey guys, I have Xubuntu on a fairly old computer, I plan to buy a RAM stick or two, whats the maximum RAM Xubuntu can have? [01:30] Ameropasia: 32bits can go to 3.2 GB, 64 bits to much, much, much RAM [01:31] I'm a bit of a noob, how do I know if I have 32 bits pr 64? [01:32] or* [01:36] And I have one more problem, I'm running mIRC through Wine, when I try to put a script on to mIRC, I hit alt+R and then the pop up box comes up, but it freezes and exits mIRC, anyone have ideas about that? [01:51] you would be better to ask in the wine channel [01:52] i think its either #wine or #winehq [01:52] not sure though [01:52] or just use xchat :) [01:52] no need for wine [01:57] Ameropasia: if you dont know you're very very likely using 32bits [01:57] unless you used the 'amd64' cd to install [01:57] About your mIRC problem, well, install xchat and use it ! :) (irssi is good too :D) [02:07] Hi all. [02:10] I use Xchat mainly, I just wanted to use some mIRC scripts [04:44] this is strange. I rebooted my computer (running xubuntu) and now the xfce panels aren't showing up. rebooting again didn't fix it. [05:15] hi all [05:27] I have an ibook G3 original without a CD drive. How should go about putting xubuntu on it? I already tried an external CD-ROM, the ibook did not list it as a boot device for option+boot. [06:17] zerothis, xubuntu doesn't support ppc architecture any more === Odin is now known as th0r [09:00] th0r, now continuing on about that interesting topic on wireless lol [11:46] hello to every body [11:48] hi [12:01] I need some help [12:01] can you help me in ubuntu? [12:02] depends what you need [12:03] !ask | newill [12:03] newill: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [12:04] SiDi, i'll have to remember that one ;) [12:05] newill: what is your problem exactly ? How may we help you ? [12:05] yes [12:06] when I start the pc don't load the grafics, but remain black screen and login e password [12:07] I can write only commands [12:08] but I am a few time with ubuntu and don't know a lot of command or solutions [12:08] did I was clear????? [12:08] is this off a fresh install or did you recently change something that caused this [12:08] and please focus on your english, not quite understanding you [12:08] no I did not nothing [12:08] sorry [12:09] its okay, not all of us are native speakers [12:09] did you just install xubuntu? [12:09] thanks [12:09] I installed Ubuntu 6 month ago [12:09] and it worked fine until now? [12:09] yesterday I was using normaly the pc [12:10] what happens if you type 'startx' and hit enter [12:10] in the night when I turn on [12:11] it say: unable to open wrapper config file [12:11] hmmm [12:11] user not authorized [12:11] sudo startx [12:12] I now write: sudo startx [12:12] yes [12:12] it appera a grey screen [12:12] thats it? just a grey screen? [12:12] mouse work...but there are only a loto of grey points [12:13] yes [12:13] i think you messed up your install big time last time you used it [12:13] your x session wasn't logged in [12:13] which is why you can use the mouse now [12:13] but there is a bigger problem at hand here [12:13] unless of course it's just loading really slow [12:13] can't really tell since im not there [12:14] what can I should try now? [12:14] what are ' a loto grey points' [12:14] grey color [12:15] try hitting alt+f2 [12:15] does a run prompt come up? [12:15] nothing [12:15] hmmm [12:15] i don't know man [12:15] your x session isn't logging in [12:16] it does this every time you reboot? [12:16] yes [12:16] I tried many times [12:17] could be the grafic driver? [12:17] could be a lot of things [12:17] i'm not sure [12:17] I can lunch the recovery mode [12:17] and i'm quite tired at the moment, need to go to bed [12:18] sorry i couldn't help you [12:18] good luck [12:18] the pc in the 'eeepc' === jadez03 is now known as jadez03|away [12:18] thanks [12:19] newill: it's the graphics driver, please try the recovery mode [12:20] newill: do you know if there have been any kernel updates recently ? [12:20] What graphic card do you have ? [13:58] Any recommendation for cleanup tool for Ubuntu? [13:59] fuck, all away?! [13:59] fuck pricey! === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === Odin is now known as Guest78439 === Guest78439 is now known as th0r [18:33] !mp3 [18:33] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [18:47] hello all. need help with xubuntu running at 100% cpu all the time. Anyone herd of this? [18:50] x_, you can open the System Monitor (Applications->System) and check what is clogging your system [18:52] vinnl, its xorg [18:52] vinnl, its a common problem how ever can not find a solution [18:52] Hmm [18:52] Got a link? [18:52] 1sec [18:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-316924.html [18:54] heres one [18:54] did forces mean #xubuntu does support PPC or that the xubuntu distro doesn't come in PPC format? Because I downloaded a jaunty PPC iso, there was a PS3 variant there too [18:55] i googled cpu 100% Xorg xubuntu and am stuck for ideas === techknowlust is now known as techknowlust|awa [18:59] x_, has this always happened or did this first start occurring with a software update? [18:59] vinnl, ever since download/install with wubi [19:01] hey, why does xfce use more ram than ubuntu? [19:01] x_, hmm... You could try a reinstall but that's unpleasant :P [19:02] vinnl, can i reinstall from command prompt? [19:02] vinnl i have no idea how to fix this aye. [19:02] x_, well, I mean of your whole Xubuntu... Meaning going into Windows, removing Xubuntu and reinstaling it with Wubi (or a real install, of course) [19:03] x_, yeah sorry, I don't have the proper fix as well, someone might come along who does [19:03] !xorg [19:03] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [19:04] zerothis: i dont know what forces said but as far as i know yes there is a PPC ISO [19:04] vinnl, how do i remove xubuntu from windows? [19:04] x_, IIRC like you'd remove most applications in Windows, in the Add/Remove screen [19:04] Not sure where to find that [19:05] !ppc [19:05] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [19:05] vinnl, k will try. ty [19:05] bye [19:05] Bye, good luck [19:06] Ah,here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads :) [19:06] PS3 as well indeed === techknowlust|awa is now known as techknowlust === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [19:33] hello all [19:34] im wondering what media players I can get that wont slow xubuntu too much [19:34] DJNomad, depends on how much effort you're willing to put into it ;-) [19:35] vinnl, lol depends on what kind of effort you are talking about lol [19:36] DJNomad, well, mpd is light but you need to set it up through a text file, and you'll want to install mpc and configure some keybindings to control it, andperhaps a graphical front-end too ;-) [19:36] But once you've done that, it's heaven :) [19:36] DJNomad: if your computer isnt that slow i recommand Exaile 0.3.0, if you really need something EXTREMELY light, use mpd (backend) + mpc or ario (frontend) [19:37] I have run exaile before [19:37] my pc is 733 mhz I forget how much ran ibelieve its over 512 tho [19:38] guess I will stick to listen [19:39] it aint too bad lacks a few features i like or I cant figure them out yet [19:39] only used it for about ahour so far [19:40] There are a few more you can take a look at: Decibel, Quod Libet, ... [19:43] has anyone had problems connecting a cell phone via usb and getting linux to access the micro sd memory card ? [19:44] Hi, I'm completely new at xubuntu and I need some noob help :x [19:44] k nnob [19:44] I am lil new too but have solved a few probs [19:45] keyboard not working? [19:45] I...can't figure out how to download... :x [19:45] jk lol [19:45] download ? [19:45] like what ? [19:45] right now Im trying to download skype and audacity [19:46] kk [19:46] noob u on xubuntu? [19:46] yeah [19:46] noobneedshelp, which versoin of Xubuntu are you using? [19:46] go to start button [19:47] and add/remove progs [19:47] more than likely you are trying to get them from a website ? [19:47] the newest version of xubuntu, I just got it today [19:47] yeah [19:47] noobneedshelp, Applications->Add/Remove... [19:47] in linux you get all progs from the add remove on start button [19:48] DJNomad, not in every Linux ;-) [19:48] vinnl I was using it loosly cause i knew he was in xubuntu [19:49] Why not say Xubuntu then? :) [19:49] so everything is in the add/remove? like you can search for stuff to download there? [19:49] noobneedshelp, exactly [19:49] noobneedshelp, yes [19:50] And if security updates for those applications are released, you'll get notified of those too and you can install them all with a single click :) [19:50] I like this :) [19:50] noobneedshelp, there is much to like inXubuntu ;-) [19:50] noobneedshelp, oh, by the way [19:50] noobneedshelp, you might want to select "All available applications" in the drop-down menu on top [19:51] noobneedshelp, me too I ran into the same prob when i first started but now i know I love it [19:51] now I have another problem...when I installed xubuntu, I used dual booting, and somehow xubuntu only got like a gig of memory...is there a way to change that? [19:51] noobneedshelp, oh, and another thing: there is an excellent desktop guide available for stuff like this, just click the Buoy in the top panel' [19:51] You mean RAM memory? [19:52] noobneedshelp, do you have flash and java installed yet ? [19:52] no I dont have flash and java installed yet [19:52] vinll, you still there? [19:52] and I mean just memory not ram, but like disk space [19:52] dew, yep [19:53] I thought I gave xubuntu half of the memory but somehow it only got like 1 gig...theres a bit of problems with that :x [19:53] Where do you see that? [19:53] (Because IIRC Xubuntu was 1,8GB large :P) [19:54] vinnl, its x_. tryed to reinstall and failed.:( can u help plz im? [19:54] it says that it cant even install the updates because Idont have enough memory [19:54] noobneedshelp, in xubuntu you can resize partitions [19:54] I have never done it so I will leave that to someone that has [19:55] dew, OK, ehm, how did it fail? [19:56] noobneedshelp, you can install "Gnome Partition Editor" to edit your partitions [19:56] vinll, un RAM issue says i havent got enogh RAM. It worked like 5hrs ago . [19:56] noobneedshelp, I think it can resize partitions, not sure if it can resize forward [19:56] noobneedshelp, you can get the partition editor from add remove [19:57] dew, has your computer been turned off meanwhile? Perhaps there's just a lot in RAM atm. (It's vinnl with double-n btw :) [19:57] I dont see it in addremove :o [19:58] vinnl, Soz.lol yea maybe. i dnt think so though. maybe starting the app uses RAM? not to sure. [19:58] noobneedshelp, I use a trick when installing over windows.I duplicate a few big files before installin linux to set aside the room I need for linux [19:59] what [19:59] do you have the all selected ? [19:59] noobneedshelp, have you selected "All Available Applications" in the drop-down menu on top? [19:59] in drop down box [19:59] yea [19:59] dew, yeah well other applications might be lingering as well. You could try a restart and if you still experience the problem come back here :) [20:00] noobneedshelp, I am checking mine to see whats there ,I am on a new install also [20:01] noobneedshelp, what did you search on? [20:01] noobneedshelp, in the search box i typed gpart and it showed up for me [20:01] vinnl yea did that and then come back here. :( this is so frustrating [20:02] Hmm :S [20:02] make sure you are in the all tab [20:02] gpart doesnt show for me [20:02] It's the exact same installer as before? [20:02] I am in the all tab [20:02] brb [20:03] noobneedshelp, OK, that's odd. Could you perhaps post a screenshot somewhere? [20:03] its gnome pariton editor [20:04] vinnl yea havent changed a thing.:( [20:05] OK then... Is there a way to see which applications are using RAM in Windows? If so, try that so see what is consuming it :P [20:06] back...um how do I screenshot? [20:06] nvm [20:06] that was easy to screenshot...Ill post it on imageshack [20:06] Ah great :) [20:07] http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=58472585&albumID=940103&imageID=53605416 [20:07] vinnl k brb [20:07] theres screenshot of what i get [20:08] http://yfrog.com/58screenshotbjbp [20:08] How the hell? 0.o [20:08] Hmm, might that have todo with little memory [20:08] thats odd I installed mine yesterday [20:09] xubuntu that is and havent added any sources [20:09] vinnl, think we can get a deb package? [20:09] Ah yes we could do that, good idea [20:10] noobneedshelp, you're not on 64bit right? (You'd know if you were) [20:10] no [20:10] noobneedshelp, then you can also download the installer from the web: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gparted/gparted_0.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [20:11] noobneedshelp, if you ever find something on a website you want to add to your comp it need to be a deb package [20:12] I would try to stick to add or remove if you can tho [20:14] ok thanks [20:14] hm wierd [20:14] it says [20:14] same version is available in software channel [20:14] when it wasnt :x [20:14] lol [20:15] noobneedshelp, but can you install it? [20:15] noobneedshelp, do you have more than one hdd on the computer? [20:15] it installed but now it says failed to mount os [20:15] (It might also be that the list of applications for Add/Remove... wasout of date, and perhaps it couldn't regenerate because of lackof space) [20:15] yeah [20:15] noobneedshelp, where does it say that? [20:16] as soon as I open gparted [20:16] the enclosing drive for the volume is locked [20:16] Ah, of course [20:16] ... o.0 [20:16] Ehm, do you happen to have a LiveCD lyring around? You obviously can't resize a hard disk while you're using it :P [20:17] surely he does he just installed [20:17] vinnl what os is it using? [20:17] dew, is what using? [20:17] xubuntu,windows [20:17] Yeah I have a livecd right next to me [20:17] for noobneedshelp ? [20:18] noobneedshelp, try running that. It'll have Gnome Partition Editor already installed, you just need to run it from Applications->System [20:18] so I need to reformat the computer again...? [20:18] vinnl oh noobneedshelp [20:18] no noobneedshelp no reformat [20:19] noobneedshelp, no IIRC you can resize partitions preserving the content on them [20:19] dew, dual boot I believe [20:19] wut [20:19] I resized one once and it failed and friend my pc [20:19] think it overheated tho [20:19] Oww... [20:19] noobneedshelp what os n RAM u have? [20:20] xubuntu 9.04 I think it is...whatever the new one is...and dual booting with vista, and 3 gigs ram [20:21] noobneedshelp, you should use gnome desktop [20:21] what will that do [20:21] imho [20:21] noobneedshelp yea gnomes good. google wubi mate. [20:21] noobneedshelp, the newest is 9.04 :) [20:21] yea juanty [20:21] And GNOME is what comes with Ubuntu but if you're content with Xubuntu just stick to that :) [20:22] how would that change the partitions... [20:22] xubuntu is xfce desktop(lightweight) gnome is a lil more user friendly a9lil heavier) [20:22] noobneedshelp, it wouldn't [20:23] noobneedshelp oh try EASEUS partitioner (google) [20:23] Anyway, either you have to reinstall and do it correctly, or you have to resize the partitions from the LiveCD [20:23] oh have you got a live cd? [20:23] ok I have the live cd [20:24] noobneedshelp, OK, try and run that [20:25] ok...its back to the screen it was when I installed the os [20:25] what should I tell it to do [20:25] noobneedshelp, have you selected "Run without installing anything?" [20:25] ok i can do that [20:27] vinnl, will try this download and install. talk soon. [20:27] K :) [20:27] ok now what... [20:27] noobneedshelp, you're seeing a desktop now? [20:28] yea [20:28] OK, open Applications->System->Partition Editor [20:28] same error [20:29] failed to mount data, enclosing drive is locked [20:29] Hmm? And you're sure you're in the LiveCD? [20:29] yeah [20:29] OK... Do you see any drives on your desktop? [20:29] umm I saw the install button [20:29] But nothing else? [20:29] um idk I logged out... [20:30] Im thinking maybe its because vista has passwords on it idk [20:30] Ima check [20:30] No, don't think so. Unless you encrypted those drives or something [20:30] umm what do you mean by encrypted? [20:31] If you know how to resize partitions from within Windows that's fine too btw [20:31] Oh, if you don't know what it is then you haven't done that :) [20:31] I have a hidden desktop thing on windows thats suppose to hide everything...it might encrypt idk [20:32] uh, I installed the latest xubuntu and set it to auto-login (this is a box for some newbs...) [20:32] it booted fine the first time and I updated everything and activated the restricted nvidia drivers as it requested [20:32] Oh OK that might be doing it, perhaps. How does it "hide" stuff? [20:32] Im not entirely sure..Ill look it up [20:33] when I rebooted, it auto-logged-in, but now it's just sitting there with a light blue screen and a cursor [20:33] I don't think the window manager has started [20:33] and I can't ctrl+alt+backspace to get out [20:33] auntieNeo, when you press Alt+F2 do you see anything? [20:33] aunti mine does that for a bit before boot [20:34] only 10 sec or 15 [20:34] vinnl: switching to the other terminals make my monitor say "no video" :( [20:34] Hmm, this happens reproducably? [20:34] DJNomad: mine's been doing this for about five minutes :P [20:34] umm I dont know if this is exactly it but this is the sort of thing I have on my computer http://www.hiddendesktop.com/ [20:34] vinnl: yeah, I've rebooted a few times [20:35] the other thing I did was I deleted the ~/.config/menu directory, because there was a bunch of menu cruds from a previous install === dwu02_ is now known as dwu02 [20:35] (this home directory is an old one from the previous distro...) [20:35] auntieNeo, OK, uhm... You could try removing the driver from the command line if you remember the name [20:36] heh, guess I gotta boot single user mode; I can't even kill X :/ [20:37] noobneedshelp, that might be the cause indeed [20:38] hehe, I used my ninja skills and killed X by typing on a terminal even though it wasn't being displayed ;P [20:39] You just earned yourself ten manly points :P [20:41] pfft, do it all the time ;p [20:41] whenever I screw up ssh on my server xD [20:42] so if I shrink the volume on vista, itll be bigger on xubuntu? [20:42] I changed the nvidia driver from nvidia to nv but to no avail [20:42] xfce still doesn't start up [20:42] the failsafe terminal works, though [20:43] I'll try failsafe gnome I guess... [20:45] noobneedshelp, no you'll also need to enlarge Xubuntu's partition [20:45] (Assuming they're both on the same harddrive) [20:45] okay, I don't have gnome, so failsafe gnome failed :P [20:45] this is so silly... it worked the first time :/ [20:46] auntieNeo, from the failsafe terminal, can you type startxfce4 and see what happen? [20:51] vinnl: one sec... [20:52] I created a second user, and xfce started properly [20:52] I'll try the command with the first user [20:52] Ah then it's probably the cruft from the previousdistro [20:54] I'm guessing cruft, but it worked the first time [20:55] uh, when I run startxfce4, it starts the window manager and draws decorations around xterm, but it doesn't start the panels [20:55] the terminal shows some debug output from nm-applet and the update_notifier... [20:56] the last thing the update_notifier says is something about "crashreport_check" [20:56] OK, how about xfce4-panel? [20:56] but it doesn't say "error" or anything [20:56] Yeah well it probably crashed before it could display an error :P [20:58] uhh.... well, I killed X and tried to run startxfce4 a second time, but it says there's "already a server on display :0.0" :P [20:58] X server already running on display :0.0 [20:58] actually [20:58] gah, silly [20:59] xfce4-panel just sits there, doesn't ouput anything, and doesn't stop [21:00] and it segfaults when I try to kill it :/ [21:00] It's probably to the running display I suppose [21:00] Anyway, really sounds like you'll want to get rid of the cruft [21:01] if I get rid of the cruft, will I still have a default menu to use? [21:01] * auntieNeo deletes all the hidden files that he doesn't recognize ;P [21:02] The menu is defined globally so as long as you delete stuff in your home directory it shouldn't [21:02] However, you might just want to create a new user and copy all your documents to that one [21:14] okay, I removed the cruft, and xfce started working for the user [21:14] then I rebooted... [21:15] and now I get a white screen [21:15] no cursor this time :/ [21:15] :S [21:15] and the hdd light is blinking like crazy [21:15] With absolutely no cruft left? [21:15] jeah [21:15] I left .wine and a few other things [21:16] but mostly nothing [21:16] And how about that other user you created? Doesn't that work anymore too? [21:17] okay wow... I go to the blank console of blackness... then I log in and kill Xorg... [21:17] and now, on the 7th terminal, it's showing xfce4 xD [21:17] \o/ [21:18] but it's gotta work every time ;/ [21:18] I'ma reboot.. [21:18] K [21:18] heh, "unable to preform shutdown" :P [21:18] auntieNeo, log out from all the tty's [21:19] What have you done to that thing? :P [21:19]