[00:00] <harolddong> is this where I can bring up issues I have with the 4.3 rc packages?
[00:10] <Mamarok> I reported the Dolphin bug upstream: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201385
[00:12] <shtylman> Riddell: evand merged the code... I will work closer with seele at the accessibility and we have already discussed a few changed that I will make this weekend :)
[00:13] <lex79> ScottK: kdepim and kdeutils are still FTBS on amd64
[00:14] <harolddong> I'm supposed to be able to assign activities to workspaces but when I do it always adds an extra workspace.  so if I have one workspace it gives me two and if I have 4 workspaces I end up with 5.
[00:15] <harolddong> also I just installed the new rc packages and now the plasmoid network manager always shows the not connected icon even though its conected
[00:21] <JontheEchidna> harolddong: bug 404309 is your second one
[00:21] <JontheEchidna> it'd probably be best to report your first one at bugs.kde.org
[00:21] <harolddong> okay thanks
[00:25] <ScottK> lex79: Done
[00:25] <lex79> thanks
[02:06] <lex79> JontheEchidna: around?
[02:06] <JontheEchidna> lex79: yes
[02:08] <lex79> JontheEchidna: can I set kubuntu bzr for digikam and kipi-plugins? or isn't it a good idea?
[02:08] <JontheEchidna> Making a bzr repo would be a good idea
[02:09] <lex79> yes, I mean making a bzr repo :)
[03:31] <shtylman> http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/keyboard.tar.gz --- and run keys.py for the adventurous :)
[05:48]  * txwikinger wonders when there will be a plasma-desktop again which does not crash all the time
[07:25] <harolddong> what would be the reason that my arent showing up after upgrading to the new rc packages?  the only thing that doesnt have the resource not available redx in the akonadi server configuration is birthdays & anniversaries
[07:25] <harolddong> sorry I meant to say my contacts arent showing up
[07:25] <harolddong> in kopete or kaddressbok
[07:46] <harolddong> I'm getting an error 11 unable to lock /lbdata1 with akonadi.  what does this mean?
[07:58] <harolddong> are the contacts still a kresource in 4.3 or have they gone over to akonadi now?
[10:24] <jussio1> growl, my rc3 update x died, now I have no keyboard input. running on live cd...
[11:39] <Nightrose> wasn't there a fix for the "you need to fork" problem with kpackagekit?
[11:39] <Nightrose> i still can't install anything without getting that error
[11:39] <Nightrose> wonder if anyone else manages
[14:36] <ScottK> Riddell: Did you see Debian Bug #538347?
[14:59] <jussio1> ok, i think ive totally borked my install after trying to chroot in and fix that rc3 upgrade issue... this ought to be fun
[15:35] <ScottK> NCommander: How about qt4-x11 on our armel?
[15:36] <NCommander> ScottK, pending on a Canonical RT request
[15:36] <ScottK> NCommander: What's the issue?
[15:36] <NCommander> ScottK, the lzma compression issue is resolved
[15:36] <NCommander> ScottK, gcc 4.4 takes longer to build qt4-x11
[15:36] <ScottK> Right, but it still doesn't make it.
[15:36] <ScottK> Oh.
[15:37] <ScottK> So an even LONGER timeout?
[15:37] <NCommander> ScottK, its simply a mater that the timeout needs an individual package bump
[15:37] <NCommander> ScottK, no, we went back to 150 minutes, that was a red-hearing :-)
[15:37] <NCommander> ScottK, 300 minutes should allow qt4-x11 to successfully finish
[15:37] <ScottK> Oh.
[15:37] <ScottK> Well it'd be nice to build a recent KDE on armel before 4.3 goes final ....
[15:38] <shtylman> seele: http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/keyboard.tar.gz ... download that and run the keys.py file. The idea here is that when selecting the keyboard in the installer the user would be presented with a graphical view...versus (or in addition to) the type random stuff here
[15:38] <NCommander> ScottK, I'm going to look at building 4.2.98 on Debian/armel
[15:38] <ScottK> So that should uncover any portability issues?
[15:38] <shtylman> seele: potential points of concern are non standard keyboard layouts and whether that will be a problem... would it be possible to get some user testing/feedback on this so I know if it should go into the installer?
[15:39] <NCommander> ScottK, yeah, but I'm not sure we'll be done compiling before release time goes (I also am not sure where to grab 4.2.98 tarballs)
[15:39] <ScottK> shtylman: I have an installer request.
[15:39] <shtylman> ScottK: lets hear it :)
[15:39] <ScottK> NCommander: If it hasn't been uploaded to Debian, you can use our.
[15:39] <NCommander> ScottK, it hasn't, we have the tarballs, I just dunno where they are
[15:39] <ScottK> NCommander: In the archive.
[15:40] <NCommander> nifty
[15:40] <ScottK> shtylman: In the advanced section of the installer there are different options you can select like acpi=no or free software only.  For Karmic I think we need nomodeset as an option there.   I predict it will be popular.
[15:41] <ScottK> NCommander: You'll also probabably want https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph
[15:41] <shtylman> ScottK: advanced section?
[15:41] <shtylman> are you referring to the command line arguments?
[15:41] <shtylman> during boot?
[15:41] <NCommander> ScottK, fun.
[15:41] <ScottK> shtylman: I think it's F6 before you start the install.  Yes.
[15:42] <ScottK> err before you start the live session.
[15:42] <shtylman> ScottK: ok... that would have to probly be taken up with evand or cjwatson ... they know much more about that then I do ... I only do the pretty frontend work :)
[15:42] <ScottK> shtylman: OK.  Well I always forget to mention it when they are around.
[15:42] <shtylman> ahh
[15:43] <ScottK> shtylman: BTW it's looking good.
[15:43] <shtylman> thx
[15:52] <ScottK> NCommander: It's be kind of nice to get md5sum matching tarballs, so you  might as well use ours.  That's all we do with them too.
[15:52] <NCommander> ok
[16:07] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: We want strigi 0.7 for Karmic, right?
[16:08] <txwikinger> Anybody else having problems with plasma-desktop such that it crashes immediately during login?
[16:39] <ScottK> Right. And we want a webkit based browser for our default: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/webkit.html
[16:48]  * ScottK wonders if we have the people to have a webkit based browser in Main for Kubuntu?
[17:16] <seele> shtylman: i dont see what keys.py is supposed to do. all it does is change my cursor
[17:18] <shtylman> it *should* open up a window with a keyboard display
[17:19] <shtylman> and let you choose keyboard layout/variants
[17:19] <seele> uhm.. am i supposed to run this in karmic and not jaunty?
[17:19] <shtylman> yea..karmic..
[17:19] <shtylman> sorry.. about that
[17:19] <shtylman> it uses some new pyqt signal/slot stuff... so I don't think it will work in jaunty
[17:20] <seele> ah, it will have to wait until monday then, i'm not at home
[17:20] <shtylman> ahh ok :)
[17:20] <shtylman> (I can modify it to work in jaunty...would take 2 sec if you like)
[17:20] <seele> hmm.. actually, it will have to wait until i figure out what is going on with x on my home computer :-/
[17:20] <shtylman> haha
[17:21] <seele> i'm getting weird mouse problems where it double clicks or does weird dragging
[17:21] <shtylman> interesting....
[17:21] <seele> and #kubuntu had me rerun the xorg config which broke everything
[17:21] <shtylman> awww
[17:21] <seele> and took an hour to figure out how to fix it, and my mouse is still not working
[17:22] <shtylman> is your mouse wireless?
[17:22] <seele> really annoying, can't use anything requireing mouse manipulation
[17:22] <seele> yeah
[17:22] <shtylman> sure it isn't low on batteries?
[17:22] <seele> no, it has a charging station
[17:22] <seele> and it was fully charged
[17:22] <shtylman> that happens when wireless mice run low simetimes.. ahh ok
[17:23] <seele> but anyway.. ping me monday and i can look at it again
[17:24] <shtylman> ok...will do
[17:48] <doskias> is there a roderick greening in here?
[17:50] <Bille> hi
[17:51] <Bille> who's responsible for packaging the NetworkManager plasmoid
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: oh, there's a new release? It has some fixes for rather visible bugs
[17:54] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I remember seeing some mail about a 0.7 rc.
[17:54] <Bille> txwikinger_work: ping
[17:55] <ScottK> It integrates some nepomuk stuff that is part of 4.3.
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> it should also fix bug 336161, which a minion or I should SRU (it's been requested by upstream too)
[18:01] <Bille> who's a responible developer/packager here?
[18:01] <Bille> * responsible
[18:02]  * ScottK is regulalry called irresponsible.
[18:02] <Bille> not you then...
[18:02] <ScottK> regularly even.
[18:02] <Bille> Riddell appears to be out
[18:03] <dtchen> what's the issue, Bille?
[18:03] <Bille> dtchen: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201425
[18:04] <Bille> it should not be packaged and i need someone to do something about it quickly
[18:05] <ScottK> Bille: Is that from a PPA?
[18:05] <Bille> ScottK: how would i know? i'm just an upstream distributor. one of your guys reported it
[18:05] <Bille> s/distributor/developer/
[18:05] <ScottK> Bille: Ah.  Sorry.  I didn't realize.
[18:06]  * ScottK will look into it.
[18:06] <Bille> Ralph Jahnke is txwikinger_work
[18:07] <ScottK> Bille: Do you know what revision it was that caused this to crash?
[18:08] <ScottK> It's in 11 different PPAs right now, so it'd help to know which one it came from: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=plasma-widget-network-manager
[18:08] <Bille> ScottK: no, anything after r987522 is shark infested
[18:09] <ScottK> Bille: That helps.  Thanks.
[18:09] <apachelogger> !info plasma-applet-networkmanagement
[18:09] <apachelogger> !info plasma-applet-networkmanagement karmic
[18:09] <apachelogger> god darn it
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> plasma-widget, not applet
[18:10] <apachelogger> wth?
[18:10] <apachelogger> upstream calls it plasma-applet
[18:10] <apachelogger> debian should get their stuff together :P
[18:10] <apachelogger> !info plasma-widget-networkmanagement karmic
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> upstream said widget
[18:10] <apachelogger> check the desktop file :P
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> check the "Add Widgets" entry in the cashew :P
[18:11] <apachelogger> so upstream needs to get their stuff together
[18:11] <Bille> ScottK: there will be a release very shortly but that code is like nitroglycerine in a paint shaker ok?
[18:11] <ScottK> Bille: Understand.  From what I can see it doesn't look like it came from us directly.
[18:12]  * ScottK is still trying to find it.
[18:12] <apachelogger> Bille: I doubt the package is distributed by us
[18:12] <apachelogger> since the version in current development branch of kubuntu is from r980510 I highly doubt that one of our backport repositories carries a later version than that
[18:13] <apachelogger> txwikinger_work might just have done a source compile :P
[18:14] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: oh, did I not tell you that currently we're still using the old plasma-widget-network-manager package fro r96xxx in karmic due to a typo on the transitional package for -networkmanagement?
[18:14] <apachelogger> no
[18:14] <Bille> i read Ubuntu 9.04 and "an upgrade of kde" as a package user
[18:14] <Bille> anyway, hopefully he reads the bugmail and this scrollback and gets the picture
[18:15] <Bille> anyway back to coding
[18:15] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I had a patch to throw off to riddell, but it was alpha freeze at the time. I'll throw it at him next time I see him
[18:15] <apachelogger> the experimental ppa carries r966653
[18:17] <apachelogger> no clue where he got the package from
[18:18] <ScottK> Don't see any PPAs that have it either.
[18:19] <Bille> good, then i won't get buried under more reports. i have enough to handle from the snapshots shipped on other kubuntu releases.
[18:19] <Tm_T> hi Bille
[18:19] <Bille> Tm_T: hi
[18:51] <maco> im failing at end-user support
[18:52] <maco> i thought i knew how to make libdvdcss2, libdvdread4, and libdvdnav4 play nice with both totem and dragon...apparently not. and not with kaffeiene either it seems
[18:54] <neversfelde> ScottK: MIR is work in progress, but I have to work this evening, so I can finish not before tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.
[18:54] <ScottK> neversfelde: Sounds good.  They can be a pain to do.
[19:22] <ScottK> NCommander: I do have a vague recollection of kdegames having a portability problem last time we could build armel.  That just needs libs, so if you could build 4.2.98 libs and see if kdegames will build, you could probably do that before 4.3 gets released.
[19:23] <NCommander> ScottK, I knew about games :-/
[19:23] <NCommander> ScottK, but building debs is a PITA :-/
[19:24] <NCommander> ScottK, I'll see if I can do something though, I have armel QT4 debs handy from building it on RIMU
[19:44] <JontheEchidna> bug 404628
[19:48] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you need to put the tarball on the launchpad project as well
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> kk
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> if I can figure out how
[19:51] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna:
[19:51] <apachelogger> create a release
[19:51] <apachelogger> then add a download to that release :P
[19:51] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: go to the trunk series
[19:51] <apachelogger> there create a milestone
[19:51] <apachelogger> then create a releas for that milestone
[19:52] <JontheEchidna> thx
[19:55] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/kcm-gtk/trunk/0.5.1
[21:33] <JontheEchidna> kopete-facebook needs a rebuild upload: bug 394975
[21:39] <Tonio_> JontheEchidna: reuploading
[21:45] <JontheEchidna> great
[21:55] <bobesponja> I get notifications when my contacts get online with kopete even though I checked off the option in RC3 karmic
[22:09] <bobesponja> does that happen to you too people? :)
[23:07] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: apachelogger * r11 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/kde.rb: Compare 4.2.2 with 4.3rc3