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Captain_Haddockveck: read and follow the steps that avihay outlined earlier00:00
veckok peanut gallery00:01
kimmelhi, i have a simple question. For each new version of Ubuntu, I have to download everyting again;; losing all my personalised things;;00:01
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avihaykimmel: no00:01
harolddongdo I bring up issues I have with the kde 4.3 rc packages in here or in kubuntu-devel?00:02
kimmelhmm ty00:02
avihaykimmel:  you can rither upgread your system00:02
kimmelnice00:02
kimmelthank you00:03
avihaykimmel: or have your system installed on one partition and your home folder on another00:03
kimmeloooh00:03
kimmelbetter00:03
kimmelheh00:03
avihaykimmel: the two partition solution lets you replace your whole system, whenever you want, while keeping your personal files00:03
avihayand settings00:04
kimmeluhum00:04
kimmelty00:05
avihayveck: in the new application link dialog, you can place: wine "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe"00:05
veckavihay: thank you very much sry im notso educated on linux00:05
avihayin the command dialog box in the application tab00:06
veckavihay: thank you again for your patience!00:15
veckavihay: it is working great noe00:15
avihayumm, can any one tell me how can I boot a system with grub installed on it from an iso of a livecd?00:15
veckavihay: now00:15
avihaygood to hear00:15
veckavihay: you mean mnt the media?00:16
avihayno, I ment booting00:16
veckavihay: what is preventing it from booting00:17
avihayI know it's possible, I found a site with explenations, but it's on the "dead" machine I'm trying to renstall00:17
avihaywell, let's just say that a bad upgread can be a pain in the $$$00:17
avihayI have a live cd on one of my hdds, I want to boot from it. how do I?00:27
avihayI have grub!00:27
* hagisbasheruk is happy , got broadcom driver working , got rid of network manager, installed wicd and wifi radar ( thats more like it )00:32
hagisbasherukokay , i need to break something now :P00:33
tehborizany good tools for wireless network management? plasma network manager is buggy and sucks total balls right now, i'm not complaining because i'm in kde 400:41
hagisbasherukwicd with wifi-radar tehboriz i just switched too00:42
tehborizis the package name wicd??00:45
tehboriznvm00:45
hagisbasherukwicd00:45
hagisbasheruklol00:45
hagisbasherukreboot after installing ,then setup00:46
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tehborizi installed wifi-radar00:47
hagisbasheruki would also install wicd too00:47
avihay!wifi-radar00:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wifi-radar00:48
hagisbasherukmabey it installs when you apt-get wifi-radar anyway , but i always install it 1st00:49
hagisbasherukplasma network manager looks promising once the bus are ironed out00:51
avihayoh, good, after 40 minuets of searching, I found it!00:53
avihayhttp://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html00:53
hagisbasheruki just use a dvdrw avihay :P00:55
kaustubhcan anyone tell me what the kmail equivalent of thunderbird's "IMAP server directory" setting is?00:56
kaustubh_can anyone tell me what the kmail equivalent of thunderbird's "IMAP server directory" setting is?01:01
corevenin.  I got 2 usb bluetooth dongles on two laptops, work great, except, they have identical MAC addresses. Anyone know how I might change one?01:24
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mrjaxonhello people! anyone more than me having trouble burning dvd iso files since switching to jaunty?01:47
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corin what way do we have to be more than you?01:48
MrJaxonhuh? I mean if I'm alone with this trouble.01:48
corwhat *is* the trouble, exactly?01:48
MrJaxonWell whenever I try to burn a dvd iso it just burns like 1% - 3% and then it hangs. I've been testing k3b, brassario or whatever the name is. And also imgburn with wine. It hangs everytime. I've had to throw 9 dvd's so far :/01:50
bazhangMrJaxon, trouble with which app; this is a dvd.iso to dvd?01:50
bazhangMrJaxon, this is in gnome or kde01:51
MrJaxonYup dvd.iso to dvd. It's in kde 4.201:51
bazhangMrJaxon, is this a linux.iso?01:52
MrJaxonYup it's a linux dist01:52
bazhangMrJaxon, it hangs for how long before you cancel it01:53
cor818701:54
coroops, ignore that, too01:54
MrJaxonwell it's been different since I got tired of waiting. But I'd say that I've been letting it try to burn for a good 30 minutes from time to time before cancelling.01:54
corI meant to say, yes, thanks for yesterday's advice, the updated kernel DID make my RTL8187 fly like the wind01:54
corMrJaxon, I meant, what were the specific error messages, log output and such01:55
corconsider unetbootin, it rocks01:55
corand saves money on disks01:55
* cor smells googlin..01:56
bazhang!unetbootin01:56
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:56
cornoted01:57
bazhangMrJaxon, you may wish to try unetbootin, provided your computer allows boot from usb , as cor mentioned01:57
MrJaxoncor I'm sorry I don't know how to check log outputs :/01:57
corbazhang, word. I only got one puter than can do it01:57
MrJaxonunetbootin? ok so I just put the iso on an usb device and boot it from there?01:58
corpretty much01:58
bazhangMrJaxon, not exactly that, but close01:58
MrJaxonWell I know that in BIOS I have that option so maybe that would work.01:58
MrJaxonbazhang, ok01:58
bazhang!info usb-creator01:59
ubottuusb-creator (source: usb-creator): Ubuntu USB desktop image creator. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.16 (jaunty), package size 26 kB, installed size 556 kB01:59
bazhangyou could also install usb-creator01:59
corwhat's nice about unetbootin, is that it's available for windows, so it's great for converting folk over to Linux01:59
MrJaxonah, that sounds like a good idea :) both of you :D02:00
corI  only just discovered it myself yesterday, when I ran out of CDs02:00
cormother of invention and all02:00
corI got a new laptop, so I'm using the other one to play with new distros02:01
MrJaxonwell my cpu hates my ipod which is my only usb device so I can't use that. it makes the whole cpu unbootable. However I have 1 dvd left and I thought that maybe I'll save it for tomorrow and visit a friend with windows so she can burn the iso for me.02:01
corcoupled with the local free WiFi coming in at 1.5MBYTES/s, I'm getting through a load of em!02:02
corit still has kubuntu on the main partition, though ;o)02:02
gopihello02:14
gopii would like some help with the grub and installing a partition manager02:15
gopican anyone help?02:15
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corgopi, just ask, and see02:19
corheh02:19
Chaotic_DescentThis is for some other flavor of Linux called Kubuntu, not Ubuntu, right?02:21
DragnslcrThis channel?02:21
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Chaotic_DescentYes. This channel.02:22
vaiokubuntu better than ubuntu?02:22
DragnslcrYes, this channel is specifically for Kubuntu. There is also #ubuntu for general Ubuntu questions02:23
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Dragnslcrvaio- if you like KDE better than Gnome, yes02:23
tehborizguys how do i disable wlan0?02:26
tehboriziwconfig wlan0 down doesnt work02:26
bazhangtehboriz, which command are you using02:27
tehborizbazhang: sudo iwconfig wlan0 down02:28
tehborizi get unknown command or something02:28
bazhangtehboriz, what about ifconfig02:28
Chaotic_DescentThanks, Dragnslcr. I must have typed /join #Ubuntu instead of /join #ubuntu or something before... :S I'm so frazzled.02:28
tehboriznice call bazhang02:28
tehborizyou rule02:28
tehborizwait how do i check if it's really down02:29
tehborizit doesn't say no wireless extensions02:29
bazhangyou want to completely disable it? on a more permanent basis? or just short-term02:29
tehborizpermannent02:31
tehborizit's broken, connection is weak and alwas drops02:31
tehborizsad story02:31
tehborizwlan1 with my external wireless card is way better02:32
carpiiis there a tool i can call from cmdline, which will load a given string into kde's clipboard ?02:42
bazhangtehboriz, what about blacklisting the module then (sorry did not notice your response, was away for a bit)02:48
bazhang!blacklist02:48
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »02:48
bazhangtehboriz, ^^02:48
tehborizthx ill do it in a few mins i gotta brb02:48
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dhuvhello all, I just upgraded today to KDE 4.3 RC1 with the jaunty backports and I wanted to confirm that I am not the only one that has issues with the NetworkManager icon in the taskbar02:54
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darthanubisanyone else use system monitor temperature plasma widget and notice the temps are correct but the label for degrees is F when it should be C? And that there is no way to change that in the options?03:29
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corin case anyone wondered: bluetooth MAC address change = bdaddr03:55
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Guest11141herro?04:04
Guest11141is anyone here?04:04
bazhangGuest11141, yes04:05
Guest11141herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrro04:05
Guest11141hey!04:05
Guest11141how do i change my name04:05
Guest11141?04:05
bazhangin irc?04:05
Guest11141yeahh04:05
bazhang  /nick newnick04:05
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papasmurfettayay!04:06
papasmurfettathanks!04:06
papasmurfettalater dude!04:06
bazhangif you wish to keep it register it04:06
bazhang!register04:06
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode04:06
dsmith_kde 4.3 is nice04:06
dsmith_:)04:06
asasHi, I had to replace my motherboard and now when I boot I get "GRUB" in caps, but no operating system.. any ideas on how to fix?04:48
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quintonNeed help fixing my display resolution05:00
quintonI've reformatted twice, tried a bunch of commands, nothing can get it back to 1280x1024. I can ddcprobe and see it as 1280x1024 but I can't set it as that.05:01
asasso I ran jfs_fsck on my raid partition that I just reassembled and it says it is clean, but when I try to mount the partition I get a bad super block or incorrect filesystem error05:25
asasany ideas?05:26
nico313where can i find the drivers to play a dvd in kubuntu 8.1005:51
DarkChewienico313: Drivers or players?05:53
nico313drivers because the player is in there it just can not read/play a dvd05:54
DarkChewieit is strange05:54
DarkChewiewhat model?05:54
nico313gt228 gateway05:55
nico313kubuntu 8.1005:55
DarkChewieno, the DVD player05:55
DarkChewienico313: Brand and model, You are using USB DVD player?05:57
nico313don't knnow it doesn't say on the dv.05:57
DarkChewienotebook?05:58
nico313desktop05:59
DarkChewiesome brand?06:00
nico313it doesn't say the brand only that it is multi-format06:01
DarkChewienico313: it is strange, because ou dont need drivers to play DVD06:01
DarkChewienico313:I can not help much, you better wait for someone with more experience or post in the ubuntu forum ... "http://ubuntuforums.org/"06:03
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ubsafderhello07:02
Captain_Haddocknico313: how are you trying to play them?07:04
Captain_Haddockubsafder: hi07:04
ubsafderi have a broken package when i tried reinstalling it i get http://pastebin.com/mc3402a07:08
ubsafderthe broken package is kdebase-runtime07:09
ubsafderi am trying to use  kubuntu jaunty07:12
Captain_Haddockubsafder: I'm afraid I don't understand the error message07:21
Captain_Haddock!info kdebase-runtime07:21
ubottukdebase-runtime (source: kdebase-runtime): runtime components from the official KDE 4 release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 1861 kB, installed size 5520 kB07:21
Captain_Haddocknico313: I don't know your exact issue, but you can try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras and also enable the medibuntu repository07:23
Captain_Haddock!dvd07:23
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:23
Captain_Haddock!medibuntu07:23
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org07:23
Captain_Haddocknico313: ^07:24
tomdavidsondoes anyone know how to correlate mtd devices with msdos style partitions?07:34
bogdanbivwhat's a mtd device?07:39
bogdanbivtomdavidson: mtd == mounted?07:39
tomdavidsonthanks fo rthe reply... MTD Memory Technology Device http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/07:40
tomdavidsonlike mem on an embeded system and not via USB07:41
harolddongis anybody running the latest kde 4.3 rc in here07:51
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Mamarokinternet: do not send unsollicited PM, please07:54
CptnAwesomehi folks, if i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and don't like it, can i just apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop later and revert to my current setup?07:57
MamarokCptnAwesome: it will not remove KDE if it's that what you mean, kubuntu-desktop is only a meta package07:59
Mamarokditto for ubuntu-desktop07:59
CptnAwesomeso any packages that are installed with kubuntu-desktop will be removed with it as well, leaving only what i have on the machine now? what happens if i have installed packages included with kubuntu-desktop already?08:00
CptnAwesomesorry for the long winded questions =)08:01
* CptnAwesome just does it and suffers the consequences.08:04
MamarokCptnAwesome: no, read what I said :)08:07
Mamarokif you remove kubuntu-desktop it will only remove that package, not KDE08:07
Mamarokkubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, it only installs KDE, it doesn't remove it08:07
harolddongwhere are the .vcf files stored08:08
CptnAwesomeok, thanks08:09
* Mamarok doesn't know what .vcf files are08:10
harolddongI updated to the latest rc and my contacts arent showing up.  all of the resources can't be found but they werent moved. akonadi server says there is an error 11 "Unable to lock ./ibdata1"08:13
Mamarokoh, right, I remember now08:13
McAkuMoi08:14
harolddongI'm wondering if there is a problem with the latest rc packaes or if something just screwed up on my end08:14
Mamarokharolddong: which KDE version do you have?08:14
Mamarokoh, sorry, didn't read :(08:14
* Mamarok is not really awake yet08:14
harolddongkde 4.3 rc308:14
McAkuKANAVA ON SUOMENKIELISILLE08:14
MamarokMcAku: English, please08:15
Mamarokand do not shout08:15
harolddongI wiped backed all the important files in my ./kde folder and restored after updating like I do everytime but this has never happened08:15
harolddongbefore08:16
McAkuThis is finnish person08:16
Mamarokhm, I never do that, it just works, but my address data is in a subfolder of home, not in .kde/share08:17
Mamarok!fi | McAku08:17
ubottuMcAku: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi08:17
McAkuokay08:17
harolddongwhat is ./ibdata1?08:19
harolddongand why can't it be opened?08:19
Mamarokbecause it is locked, apparently08:19
Mamarokit's a MySQL error message that it can't acces the data08:20
harolddongthis is my akonadi mysql error http://pastebin.com/m2991ae9d08:20
Mamarokharolddong: I am not a database savvy person, maybe ask in #kde08:21
Mamarokseems oyu already have a running instance of Akonadi, maybe shutting down Akonadi in the system settings and start over KDE can help08:22
Mamarokyou*08:22
habibihii08:25
vkhialanibesides gimp which other image manipulation application do you suggest. Especially vector images ?08:46
josephvkhialani: inkscape08:52
vkhialanithank you08:53
joseph:D08:53
inferno_i7hey does anyone know how to trigger a script when a file is modified08:59
inferno_i7I want to autosend an email if a file is updated09:00
beyondcrok i have a question how do you apply a .patch file?09:03
ralf_1985i lost my kdmrc file09:10
ralf_1985how can i get it back ?09:10
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beyondcrany one there?09:16
Mamarok!ask | beyondcr09:17
ubottubeyondcr: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:17
beyondcri have a .patch file how do i make it work09:17
beyondcri tryed to make09:18
Mamarokbeyondcr: you didn't specify what patch on what application09:18
beyondcrbut nothing happen09:18
Mamarokand which KDE version09:18
beyondcrits a patch for cowpatty 4.609:18
MamarokFYI, a patch has to be applied in the source normally, then you have to recompile the application09:19
* Mamarok doesn't know what application this is09:19
beyondcrkde 4.2.209:19
Mamarokbeyondcr: download the source file, apply the patch with the command 'patch -p0 < patch.file' in the correct folder of the source09:20
Mamarokthen recompile with the appropriate means suggested in the README file of the source09:21
beyondcrty09:21
Mamarokbeyondcr: you are welcome :)09:21
inferno_i7does anyone know how to use events to trigger scripts? i want to run a script when a file is modified but I dont want to run an infinite loop.09:22
KuuuuHi there, anybody is using KDE 4.3 RC3 on Kubuntu 9.04?09:26
KuuuuI upgraded to the PPA packages and plasma always SEGV.09:26
Kuuuuhad to revert back to 4.2.209:26
Kuuuuwake up...09:27
inferno_i7no housekeeping need sleepy09:28
Kuuuuok...zzzZZZ09:29
inferno_i7usually better responces in a few hours when more people are awake09:29
trapahi all09:32
MamarokKuuuu: I run RC3, and it works very well here, from what version did you upgrade?09:33
inferno_i7hi trapa09:34
toshirosomebody tellme some chat to talk?09:34
inferno_i7do you know how to trigger a script with an event09:34
inferno_i7like an updated file triggers a notification09:34
Mamaroktoshiro: discussion is in #kubuntu-offtopic09:34
Mamaroktoshiro: but read the topic of the channel anyway :)09:35
KuuuuMamarok, fresh installed Kubuntu 9.04. then I add the ppa depot, and upgrade, and plasma SEGV.09:35
MamarokKuuuu: well, are you sure you installed everything?09:35
KuuuuI added the ppa source in KPackageKit, refresh, and installed all the updates.09:36
Kuuuui am not sure what are installed09:36
Mamarokbecause there has be some renaming betwee kde 4.2 and 4.3, so you need to check that everything is installed, especially kdebase-* packages, all plsma packages for 4.2.98, etc.09:36
Mamarokplasma*09:36
Kuuuuhow to do full upgrade?09:37
Kuuuuwhen plasma SEGV, I don't have my  network (WiFi), and cannot use apt-get any more.09:37
MamarokKuuuu: network is independend of the desktop normally, and you do the upgrade in KDE anyway, so you can still verify before you restart KDE09:38
Mamarokso if your network works, it will not stop working during the update process09:39
Kuuuubut the network manager widget didn't write my wifi settings back to conf file.09:39
MamarokKuuuu: you should upgrade with a package manager, so you are sure to see the 4.2.98 files you need09:39
Kuuuuyou mean do upgrade in apt-get?09:40
MamarokKuuuu: if you do not restart KDE before your upgrade is finished, it still runs, so you just don't quit the package manager and install manually what is missing there09:40
Kuuuuhow to ensure full upgrade in KPackageKit?09:40
MamarokKuuuu: no, in a package manager, either adept or kpackagekit or synaptic09:40
MamarokKuuuu: well, there is a search field, where you can search for files09:41
Kuuuuyep, then09:41
Kuuuu?09:41
MamarokKuuuu: but if you are not experienced then you should wait for KDE 4.3 final anyway09:41
Kuuuujust not a KDE user. very experienced otherwise :)09:41
CptnAwesomenow that ive grabbed kubuntu-desktop from apt-get, will i get the option to go into kde or kubuntu when i boot up next?09:44
MamarokKuuuu: that has nothing to do with KDE, using a package manager is the same in all desktops...09:44
MamarokCptnAwesome: yes, of course, although you will only have a basic installation, you miht have to install additional packages09:44
Mamarokkubuntu-desktop gives you only what is on the default CD09:45
Mamarokmight*09:45
CptnAwesomenp, thats all i needed to know, see you from Kubuntu land soon09:45
KuuuuMamarok, UI is different...09:46
KuuuuI didn't see a button to do full upgrade in KPackageKit09:47
MamarokKuuuu: there is no such button, and there is no such button in Gnome neither, I use synaptic :)09:47
florianhi09:48
Kuuuuso apt-get dist-upgrade is the only way...09:48
florianI have a soundproblem. Only one application can play sound at once. What can I do against that?09:48
Kuuuuand another question, where to change the mouse speed?09:49
Kuuuui cannot find the old control center.09:50
MamarokKuuuu: what version did you upgrade from?09:51
Mamarokthe system settings haven't changed ind KDE 4 since ages09:51
Kuuuuthis is my first time on KDE 4 :)09:52
Kuuuuok, see it.09:52
Kuuuuwired it is not in System/ menu09:52
MamarokKuuuu: so what control center are you talking about, the one in KDE3?09:52
Mamarokit's in the first menu page ...09:53
Mamarokjust open your eyes09:53
Mamarokand it is in the settings menu, system wouldn't make sense, and it was so in KDE3 too09:53
beyondcrhey Mamrok are you still there?09:54
Mamarokbeyondcr: just ask09:54
Kuuuuha, i removed it from favorite menu, now i cannot see it anywhere in the K menu.09:55
Kuuuunice09:55
MamarokKuuuu: well, then add it back: settings menu, system settings, right click -> add to favorites09:55
beyondcri went the source placed the file in to it typed patch -p0 and the file name and there is nothing happing any idea?09:55
beyondcrjust got a blank cursur09:56
Mamarokand don't remove stuff when you only just start, else you can't find your way09:56
Mamarokdid you type the exact line I gave you, with the < sign?09:56
Kuuuunever mind, i found it in "recently used"09:56
Mamarokin the correct folder?09:56
Mamarokbeyondcr: ^^09:56
florianwhere can I change the soundserver in kde4?09:57
Kuuuuit should belong to somewhere other than "Favorite"09:57
Kuuuuhow do I check that all ppa packages are installed? Is there a full list? Or has to search 'ppa'?09:57
MamarokKuuuu: no, search for kde, then check the version number09:58
beyondcrno let me put the <09:58
Mamarokbeyondcr: ...09:58
beyondcrsorry contact kept falling out09:58
Kuuuuso the step on kubuntu.com: "Then refresh and do a full upgrade." is really not an easy step.09:59
beyondcrcan't find file to patch at input line 410:00
beyondcrPerhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?10:00
beyondcrThe text leading up to this was:10:00
Mamarokbeyondcr: pastebin!10:00
beyondcr?10:00
beyondcr|diff -uNr cowpatty-4.6/cowpatty.c cowpatty-4.6-fixup11/cowpatty.c10:00
beyondcr|--- cowpatty-4.6/cowpatty.c    2009-07-03 08:15:50.000000000 -070010:00
beyondcr|+++ cowpatty-4.6-fixup11/cowpatty.c    2009-07-16 12:39:44.220822618 -070010:00
Mamarokbeyondcr: you are the one applying the patch and have to know where to apply it to10:00
Mamarokbeyondcr: please use the pastebin...10:00
Mamarok!paste | beyondcr10:01
ubottubeyondcr: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic10:01
beyondcrsorry man im still learning10:01
Mamarokbeyondcr: well, you must be in the correct folder of the source10:02
Mamarokbeyondcr: where did you get that patch from10:02
Kuuuulet me try one more time...10:02
Mamarok-p0 means 'in that exact folder'10:02
beyondcrhttp://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=4054.3010:03
Mamarokbeyondcr: sorry, ask there, this goes beyond the support of this channel10:04
beyondcrlol10:04
beyondcryhea10:04
beyondcrbut hey thanks10:04
beyondcri think you gave me all i needed to know10:04
KuuuuMamarok, 19 updates from ppa, is that all?10:04
beyondcrthanks alot10:04
MamarokKuuuu: what version are you currently running?10:05
Mamarokand what PPA did you add? did you add the gpg key?10:05
beyondcri just wanted to learn the basics of patch10:05
KuuuuMamarok, 4.2.2 in Kubuntu 9.0410:05
Mamarokbeyondcr: well, this is beyond this channel support, as I told you :)10:05
Mamarokthey have a forum, ask there :)10:06
beyondcrand all i did was give you thanks10:06
Mamarokbeyondcr: you are welcome :)10:06
MamarokKuuuu: and what PPA are you talking about?10:07
Mamarokand did you add the gpg key for this PPA?10:07
KuuuuUsers of our stable 9.04 release can install it from the Kubuntu Backports PPA.10:07
Kuuuudeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main10:07
Kuuuufrom http://kubuntu.org10:08
Kuuuuyes I did10:08
Kuuuuadd the pgp key10:08
MamarokKuuuu: then something is wrong10:08
Kuuuuhow many packages there should be?10:08
Mamarokyou should have 100+ packages to upgrade10:08
MamarokI have a full install with dbg packges and dev packages, summs up to 309 packages to upgrade10:09
Kuuuuwhy so many? the ppa is just kde4.3 rc3 right?10:09
MamarokKuuuu: well, guess how many files there are in KDE...10:09
Kuuuuwell... i don't know then10:09
Kuuuuwho wrote the news on kubuntu.org?10:10
MamarokKuuuu: please paste the output of sudo apt-get upgrade in http://paste.ubuntu.com and give the URL here10:10
MamarokKuuuu: that website is correct10:10
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Kuuuuok, http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/232983/10:12
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MamarokKuuuu: what does sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime tell you?10:13
Kuuuu10 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.10:14
Kuuuuweird hah. so my kdebase-runtime is not latest.10:15
Kuuuubut apt-get won't upgrade it.10:15
MamarokKuuuu: I need the exact output in a pastebin, please10:15
Mamarokbrb10:16
KuuuuMamarok, http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/232996/10:16
Kuuuuif I do apt-get dist-upgrade, will have 75 upgraded, 31 newly installed, 6 to remove and 1 not upgraded.10:17
Kuuuuthis is at http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/232999/10:19
quassel128!chroot10:21
ubottuchroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)10:21
quassel128&join #kubuntu-devel10:22
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MamarokKuuuu: looks much better, go with it10:28
Kuuuuhoh.10:28
Kuuuuactually i want to get the 9.10alpha3, with the KMS staff.10:29
Kuuuudownloading it now.10:29
MamarokKuuuu: your choice, just don't complain afterwards...10:30
MamarokKuuuu: this is early alpha, it will certainly break a few times beofre release10:30
Mamarokwhatever, support for Karmic is in #ubuntu+1, FWIW10:30
Kuuuusure not. this is just my test. i don't put on much stuff in it.10:31
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prasadhey i am new to kubuntu. AMAROK is not running any mp3 files. I dont know how to check if libraries that are needed are installed or not. Can anyone help me with this?10:40
jussio1!mp310:40
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:40
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trapahi can you tell me if i can use msn with linux10:51
trapa?10:51
bazhangtrapa, sure amsn10:51
trapaok10:51
trapathank you10:51
bazhangalso emesene10:51
trapawho  is the better10:52
trapa?10:52
bazhangnot sure, never tried either; pidgin may have that functionality as well, though you should check first before installing10:53
bazhangyep pidgin does too10:54
bazhangtrapa, for kde there is also kopete as well10:54
trapacan i use kopete to chat with some one have msn on windowds xp11:01
Unksiyes11:01
trapahow11:01
trapa?11:01
Unksisettings -> configure -> add account -> WLM Messenger and fill out the account details11:02
trapathank you unksi11:06
Unksiyoure welcome11:06
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peabodyI'm trying to login to a remote site via ssh certificates, and I ran ssh-agent, then ssh-add to the private keyfile.. the remote server is already setup for the certificate.. but when I try ssh remotehost it is asking me for a password, and passwords are disabled on the remote host so I can't authenticate... why isn't ssh using the certificate to login?11:19
hardymoonthirdsihi11:19
prasadhow to connect to gtalk in kopete?11:20
hardymoonthirdsiselect jabber account11:21
hardymoonthirdsienter your email address in "Jabber ID"11:22
prasadsuch as "abc@gmail.com"11:22
prasad?11:22
hardymoonthirdsiyou got it11:23
prasadwill it retrieve all the contact details?11:24
prasadbecause it says it is connecting and nothing happens then11:24
hardymoonthirdsiyeah11:24
prasadit is still showing connecting but nothing happens. what to do?11:25
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hardymoonthirdsiit work fine for me11:26
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hardymoonthirdsimy account appears online11:27
prasadwhta i did was started Kopete. then settings->Configure->Add Account....am i correct with at least?11:27
hardymoonthirdsithat's right11:27
hardymoonthirdsii did all the same11:28
hardymoonthirdsiit just works11:28
prasadit shows connecting for a while and now it shows OFFLINE11:28
ssokolowI've got a machine which had Kubuntu installed using bad RAM. What's the apt-get equivalent to `rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles/*; emerge --emptytree world`? (Something to re-install the entire system to make sure the previous install didn't corrupt things)11:28
ssokolowI don't have a Jaunty CD handy and I don't have time to install Feisty and then update.11:29
prasadhardymoon please help me11:31
prasadyahoo constantly makes changes.Even the old versions of pidgin do not work with yahoo. the Latest version works well with yahoo but do not know upto when.11:33
bazhangssokolow, sudo apt-get clean will clear the apt archives, not familiar enough with gentoo to know the emerge --emptytree world command equivalent11:35
bazhangssokolow, the purge command is useful as well, you can read the manual for apt-get to understand more clearly11:35
ssokolowbazhang: `emerge --emptytree world` re-merges every currently-installed package.11:39
ssokolow(world is the list of all packages requested directly rather than pulled in by dependencies and --emptytree makes the dependency system pretend nothing is currently installed)11:40
peabodydo I use the kubuntu bug tracker to submit a bug with a plasma widget? The System Monitor widget? when you lock the panels, log out and log in, it loses the size, and doesn't expand the panels, so everything is all smashed together11:41
ioanprasad: are you using kopete to connect to yahoo messenger?11:41
bazhangssokolow, not sure of an Ubuntu equivalent for that; you could do a netinstall, a minimal install (9mb iso), and some others ; /msg ubottu install for the options11:43
trapacan i use cam with kopete i would like chat with some oone have msn in windows xp11:45
ssokolowbazhang: If I had time to stop what I was doing for that long, I'd just burn a Jaunty CD. That's the problem. :(11:47
* hagisbasheruk is loving Kubuntu Netbook Edition :)12:00
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: where is it?12:01
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: PPA or SVN or in the repos?12:01
hagisbasherukhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook/HardwareTesting12:01
shadeslayerwhere do i download/install it from?12:02
hagisbasherukhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-netbook/daily-live/current/     <<< here12:03
peter__hi all howsit going12:04
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: will it be introduced in the repo like the UNR?12:04
bazhanghi12:04
hagisbasheruki duno shadeslayer  , ask in #kubuntu-netbook12:04
peter__kde rocks .just moved from gnome12:04
dbc254my browser can't find the internet. On dial-up HELP12:08
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: can you give me a screenshot?? i would like to see one before i download,i cant seem to find anything via google12:08
hagisbasheruk2 secs12:09
shadeslayersure12:09
hagisbasherukwaiting for photobucket to upload shadeslayer12:13
shadeslayer:)12:13
hagisbasherukhttp://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o72/hagisbasheruk/snapshot1-1.png12:14
dbc254can anyone assist?12:15
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: uh...whats different?12:16
mellhenhello@all12:18
hagisbasherukhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicNetbook  << the internals12:18
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: so no overhall in the UI? like the UNR,then ill pass....12:18
mellhenwhar exactly is the difference between kubuntu 9.10 and kubuntu 9.10 netbook edition? Its called optimized for netbooks, but what has been optimized?12:19
hagisbasherukmellhen, ask in #kubuntu-netbook12:19
dbc254hello?12:20
mellhenhagisbasheruk: ahh thx12:20
hagisbasherukbased on http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma-Netbook12:20
hagisbasheruki guess a new UI will happen as soon as it is ready12:21
hagisbasheruknice video here http://www.notmart.org/misc/plasma-mid-early.ogv12:24
shadeslayerhey whats the kross scripting architecture12:28
shadeslayersuperkaramba gives me an error : SuperKaramba cannot continue to run this theme.One or more of the required components of the Kross scripting architecture is not installed. Please consult this theme's documentation and install the necessary Kross components.12:30
hagisbasheruksudo apt-get update then apt-get --fix-missing12:31
hagisbasherukdo that until all errors stop shadeslayer12:32
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: there are no error12:33
hagisbasherukooO your missing components , this should fix that12:34
shadeslayerdid both the commands,still same error12:34
hagisbasherukwhat you installing ?12:35
shadeslayerhttp://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Desktop-Widgets/mac-bar-theme-31835.shtml12:35
hagisbasherukohh , well12:36
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hagisbasherukwont avant-window-navigator work for you , mabey thats gnome based though12:39
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: i want to keep gnome libs to an absolute minimum12:39
hagisbasheruk;) i understand12:40
shadeslayer:)12:41
hagisbasherukwhat about plasma-widget-xbar shadeslayer12:47
shadeslayerill have a look12:47
hagisbasherukor cario-dock12:47
shadeslayerwell..i needed to install libkrosspython012:49
slow-motionhi12:49
hagisbasherukgoing to try plasma-widget-xbar myself shadeslayer12:49
shadeslayer:D12:49
shadeslayerhagisbasheruk: ugh..not worth it12:50
hagisbasherukokay ;)12:50
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kiko__hola12:56
u19809hi all, I am looking for a nice analog- TV viewer application.  Which to do you all suggest ?13:02
elitrouQuintasan_: hello13:03
luftпривет всем13:21
slow-motionbye13:47
millunhi13:47
milluna friend of mine has got kubuntu with intel GM 965. anybody who can help with this mess?13:48
millunpls13:48
millunshe can't get it working13:49
avihaymillun: can you be more specific?13:53
avihaymillun: I have an intel GM 965 too13:54
avihayand it's now mostly useable13:55
millunwhat did you do for that ? she says she can't get 3D effects working13:56
millun....13:56
millun?13:57
milluni might tell her to come her later when she gets online13:57
millunhow much trouble is it? she's a novice13:57
avihayshe can't get it working, or does it work and then immidietly stop?13:58
carpiiis there a tool i can call from cmdline, which will load a given string into kde's clipboard ?13:58
milluni believe it works (so she probably uses some crappy os driver?). i don't know if it immediately stops....13:59
avihaywell, the problem is that the drivers are bad, there is a simple solution for reverting to an older version of the drivers, but that didn't work for me13:59
millunoh13:59
avihaythere is a more complex solution that lets you install newer experimental drivers14:00
millunwhat do you suggest then? she only told me 3D wasn't working14:00
millunok. is it easy to google?14:00
avihaythat fixed some of the issues I had, and made compositing on my system almost fast enough to enjoy14:00
milluni see14:01
avihayif 3d is totaly not working then it might be another problem14:01
KrAmMeRanyone know where I can backup Konversation connetion settings?14:01
avihaycan she run glxgears?14:01
milluni'll ask when she gets online14:02
linuxmceany one knows what is the double layer dvd for?14:02
avihayKrAmMeR: well, I don't know but "theoreticaly" your settings are stored in your home folder14:02
avihayso you just need to make a copy of that14:02
millunlinuxmce: for storing twice more14:04
avihaylinuxmce: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sony-introduces-double-layer-dvd-drives,2.html14:04
linuxmceim looking for help on linuxmce14:04
avihay!linuxmce14:05
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), crunchbang (support in #crunchbang)14:05
KrAmMeRavihay: yeah i've searched through all the hidden folders in my home folder14:05
KrAmMeRavihay: I've found "konverstaion" folders, but none that have the connection settings14:05
avihayubottu is so great14:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is so great14:05
KrAmMeRthey are mostly certs and little scripts14:05
avihayKrAmMeR: well, first thiing I'd do is look at what folders the konv package creates using synaptic, but it's buisy right now, and I don't fell like learning to use apt-cache14:07
avihayI'll have a look myself. where did you find it?14:08
KrAmMeRavihay: I found it, /home/eric/.kde/share/config/konversationrc14:08
millunavihay: what should i look for?14:13
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devilciao14:58
darkhammhi, how can i create a desktop launcher?15:06
darkhammhi, how can i create a desktop launcher?15:40
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darkhammhow can i create a new launcher in kde4?16:08
darkhammhow can i create a new launcher in kde4?16:15
darthanubiswhy don't people try the rt-click?16:17
darthanubis!repeat16:17
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience16:17
darkhammdarthanubis: i'm in kde 4.3.0 rc3 and i can't create any launcher with right clik...16:18
darthanubissure you can, they are called idgets, and there are launcher widgets16:19
darthanubistake the time to learn your desktop16:19
darthanubisyou'll find out a lot more than just asking questions on IRC16:19
darkhammdarthanubis: i don't want seem a irc geek, but i can't16:20
darkhammi dont' have a widget for a new launcher16:20
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darthanubisdarkhamm: my second widget says "Application launcher"16:21
darkhammdarthanubis: if i clik on it i have a menu16:21
BlkDem|Homehi people16:22
darkhammdarthanubis: i'm running the rc3 on ppa's i don't know if it can be depended by this16:22
darthanubisI'm running RC3 as well16:23
darkhammdarthanubis: if i clik on it i have a kickoff16:26
darthanubisdarkhamm: you can add more widgets from the repos if need be, but the second widget I have is app launcher16:27
darkhammi can't put off the kickoff, icons of applications in desktop, and they becomes launchers, but i need to create a launcher in "gnome-way" selecting the folder of the .bin,16:28
darkhammwith app launcher i can't16:28
darthanubisI thought that is what you were looking for?16:29
darkhammwhat you have if you add in your desktop the "application launcher" widget?16:31
martijn81how do i mount an img with fuseiso and read the contents as user from /media/iso ?16:33
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darkhammdarthanubis:what you have if you add in your desktop the "application launcher" widget?16:36
BluesKajhowdy16:37
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pippo456ciao16:51
dbc254can anyone assist with a  browser question16:59
Pliskindbc254 : don't ask to ask :)16:59
dbc254I tried last nite, and nobody felt my question was "in-depth" enough to answer.17:00
dbc254figured I'd try again with a different crowd17:00
Pliskintry again :)17:01
dbc254flock is my browser of choice, but won't come out of offline mode. Konqueror works, but I'd prefer to use flock.17:01
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ferdousanyone home?17:11
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Dario_AndresHi (from KDE team), do you have any wiki article on which debug symbols package to install for kde application crashes? (or someone that mention how to get them, using some kind of buildId or something) ?17:22
noquinhooi17:29
noquinhotudo bem ?17:29
noquinhoi made upgrade from 8.10 to 9.0417:31
noquinhobut where is skype ???17:31
darthanubisnoquinho: skype does not COME with ubuntu17:33
RiverHumeHello, I wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction to fix a couple problems I encountered after a little recent disk corruption...17:34
darthanubisget a new drive17:34
darthanubis!ask17:34
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:34
RiverHumee2fsck supposedly fixed everything, but when I booted again all my kde plasmoids were back to defaults, and firefox & dragon player (possibly others) crash on launch17:35
elitrounoquinho: you can install skype from medibuntu repositories17:36
RiverHumehah no drive is okay - at least SMART reports no problems17:36
RiverHumethey just disappear immediately after they launch - no crash alert, just vanished process17:37
noquinhohow can i add this repository from synaptic?17:37
RiverHumeheh sorry - been too much on other messaging protocols lately, and have grown acustomed to breaking up long messages so they don't get blocked ;)17:38
RiverHumefor the most part, everything else is pretty back to normal, though I am also occasionally hanging on shutdown...17:39
RiverHumedoes this sound like something that can be fixed? I _really_ hope I don't have to reinstall!17:40
RiverHumeor would this question better posed in #kde or something?17:41
RiverHumemany (most? all?) of the inodes that were 'fixed' were plasmoid related17:42
darthanubisrm ~./kde17:42
RiverHumehmmm...17:43
RiverHumeyou think that'd actually do anything about firefox and dragon?17:45
darthanubisdragon yes17:45
RiverHumeAH ryt of course - that's in kde now, huh17:46
RiverHumehm,mm17:46
RiverHumekay17:46
RiverHumewell I'll give it a shot - tnx17:46
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RiverHumeugh - dragon still vanishes on launch17:56
RiverHumeof course so does firefox17:56
darthanubisdelete tmp files17:57
RiverHumeright...17:57
sheytanHi guys18:02
sheytanIve got a problem with my repos :D18:02
sheytanwhen i try to update, i got an error that says 404 not found for opera repo, but there's no opera repo on my repos list18:03
sheytanCan someone help? :D18:03
darthanubisstrange18:04
[GuS]sheytan: post your /etc/apt/sources.list in http://paste.ubuntu.com18:04
sheytan[GuS]: will do18:04
sheytanhttp://pastebin.com/mfc6a26d18:05
[GuS]lets see18:05
sheytannever saw this before :D18:05
[GuS]maybe you have a repo in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/18:06
[GuS]check there18:06
sheytan[GuS18:07
sheytanit's there :D18:07
sheytanand why is that sources.list.d for? :d18:07
sheytancan i rm it? :d18:07
[GuS]sheytan: check if you have list inside that dir...18:08
[GuS]is supposed to add extra repos in there...18:08
[GuS]to avoid touching the main sources.list18:08
sheytan[GuS]: yes, there's opera.list18:09
sheytancan i delete it?18:09
[GuS]delete it then18:09
[GuS]yep18:09
[GuS]and update..18:09
sheytan[GuS]: now it works :D18:09
sheytanThanks :D18:09
[GuS]Your welcome ;)18:09
sheytandidn't know there's a dir for extra repos :D18:10
[GuS]yep18:10
sheytanstill learnig kubuntu :D18:10
RiverHumemerg - nope, I tried removing ~/.kde and the contents of /tmp but no avail - dragon & fox both vanish on launch... any other ideas out there?18:10
sheytanwas using slack for about 3 years :D18:10
[GuS]anyway you could add it there or in the main list, is the same18:11
[GuS]sheytan: nice18:11
sheytan[GuS]: yeah, wasn't that bad, but automagic updates and dependencies are cool :D18:11
[GuS]yeah18:12
sheytanok, thanks for help again, and bye :)18:12
[GuS]i used to have others distros many years ago, but i have kubunyu since it exist18:12
JPSmanHi, i've been using ubuntu and would like to try kubuntu.  Can I install it usuing wubi?18:14
[GuS]JPSman: yes you can18:16
Tm_TJPSman: Kubuntu is Ubuntu + few packages - few other packages18:16
Tm_TJPSman: so in practical way, you just install few extra packages and not the whole distro (:)18:17
[GuS]Tm_T: Kubuntu is not just that, is with KDE desktop not only a "few more packages"18:17
Tm_T[GuS]: oh I know, I'm over simplifiacting it18:17
Tm_Tsimplifying... simple, errr18:17
Tm_TJPSman: in your Ubuntu, use package manager and install "kubuntu-desktop" package18:19
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LacsapHi, I just created bug 201479 (which is a small feature wish) and added a patch to fullfill it. If someone has comments, I'm here to hear about it ;)18:29
Lacsapsorry, this is the false channel, wanted to post on #amarok ;)18:30
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EDinNYHow do I set file associations/18:36
andre___hello18:36
EDinNY?18:36
EDinNYhello18:37
PliskinEDinNY : in Konqueror (or Dolphin) configuration ?18:37
EDinNYPliskin, I am using kubuntu.  Neither Evolution or Firefox knows how to open .doc or, I think, pdf...probably others18:39
EDinNYpliskin, it only gives me save option18:39
EDinNY...or asks me to choose a program from a file browser18:40
[GuS]EDinNY: you can configure that in firefox (in case of firefox)18:40
EDinNYshouldn't kubuntu have a central place to do that?18:41
EDinNYIt used to18:41
[GuS]EDinNY: never used to do that Kubuntu18:41
EDinNYso you have to set them for each application?18:42
[GuS]no EDinNY18:42
[GuS]if you want to open X in firefox, some comes by default18:42
[GuS]if  not, configure or modify it in the preferences dialog of firefox18:42
[GuS]it should have a list of default apps18:42
[GuS]others apps has the filres associations in the systemsettings, advanced18:43
[GuS]files*18:43
EDinNYHow about Evolution?  shouldn't it know that doc files are opened by oo?18:43
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[GuS]i dont use Evolution, so i dont know18:44
[GuS]you are downloading something from internet or whatever, so that app must know it if not detected default app to open it18:44
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PliskinEDinNY : you can configure the defaults for all KDE apps18:51
Pliskinbut Evolution is not a KDE app18:52
Pliskinand if you use KDE, why don't you use KMail ?18:52
EDinNYpliskin, so I need whatever adds associations in Gnome I guess18:52
PliskinYes18:53
PliskinI don't know the equivalent of KControl/SystemSettings in Gnome, sorry18:53
chiseli just installed kde, diggin it. but, it came with ktorrent, and i want to use it instead of transmission from now on, but everytime i try a torrent, transmission pops up by default, how do i change the default to ktorrent?19:04
EDinNYsettings in Konquerer19:04
chiselnot using konqueror19:04
EDinNYthat is where it is set19:05
EDinNY...for kde19:05
chiselok, i'll take yer wurd fer it, but elaborate on how to change it plz19:05
chiseland i'm a little confused, how has konqueror got anything to do with it when i use firefox?19:06
EDinNYunder settings->configure_konquerer19:07
Captain_Haddockchisel: right click on a torrent file and click on properties... there should be an edit button on the resulting pop-up where you can specify order of preference19:10
chiseli'll check that out19:11
[GuS]or in system settings, advanced, file associations.19:11
Captain_Haddockchisel: firefox also has application settings I guess.. but those are probably not involved here.19:11
Captain_Haddockchisel: I personally recommend that if you're using kTorrent, then you look into using the scanfolder plugin. It's great.19:12
erttbonsoir19:13
Captain_Haddock(along with custom groups and group policies)19:13
chiselk, i changed the order there, thanks for that.19:13
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Captain_Haddockertt: allo allo19:13
erttqui parle francais svp19:13
Captain_Haddock!fr | ertt19:14
ubottuertt: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:14
chiselnow cpt. haddock, could ya tell me how to use the scan folder thingy? i enabled it. but not sure how to use it19:14
erttsorry19:14
chiselertt, je parles francais, mais on parles englais d'ici19:14
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BulletSmithы19:15
BulletSmithо19:15
chiselthanks fer all the help folks, and have a groovy day. its been cosmic but i gotta bounce.19:16
kedgeis here anybody who is using Kopete on kubuntu karmic (KDE rc3) ?19:22
Captain_Haddockkedge: I think there's a separate channel for karmic19:29
Captain_Haddocktry #kubuntu+1 or something like that19:29
Captain_Haddock!karmic19:29
ubottuKarmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+119:29
Mamarokkedge: it's #ubuntu+119:29
kedgethanks19:29
* Captain_Haddock met a new Linux user today who was using Karmic :|19:30
Captain_HaddockThis is his first ever Linux install and somebody told him that Karmic was the "cutting-edge"19:31
Captain_Haddock:S19:31
kottletto_O people are mean =P19:31
kottlettalso... I would like to upgrade to the karmic alpha (I know it's alpha ;-)) - but only found "update-manager -d" as command for upgrading - is there a kubuntu-specific one?19:32
Mamarokkottlett: you really want to do that?19:34
Mamarokdid you change the sources?19:34
nico977i upgraded to kubuntu 9.04 didnnn't like it and have gone back to kubuntu 8.10 now my cd/dvd player will not allow me to watch dvds or burn dvds only lets me listen to and burn cds19:35
nico977help please19:35
kottlettMamarok: yep.. it's not my office box... and I'm on the kde 4.3 RC anyways :)19:35
Mamarokkottlett: there is still a long way between an alpha3 and an RC3, don't compare those19:35
MamarokI think I am pretty experienced, but I would certainly not upgrade to Karmic right now19:36
Mamarokkde 4.3 RC3 is stable, and it's stable since quite some time, Karmic Alpha will break for sure19:36
Mamarokit's only Alpha 3 out of 819:37
Captain_Haddock!dvd | nico97719:37
ubottunico977: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:37
Captain_Haddockkottlett: I think you want dist-upgrade ... you can also get help for karmic in #ubuntu+119:38
kottlettMamarok: well three months till release isn't that much, and I don't really use it for work, so it isn't that important19:38
Mamarokkottlett: well, your choice then19:38
Mamaroksudo apt-get dist-upgrade if your sources.list is changed already19:39
kottlettMamarok: thanks for warning me, anyways *g*19:39
Mamarokkottlett: well, I start with that as a lot of people don't know what they are doing, so warning is always good :)19:39
kottlettMamarok: indeed :)19:40
kottlettMamarok: got it... update-notifier-kde ... and then the magic -d option19:41
nico977none of those are working any other ideeaas?19:46
darthanubiskedge: I am19:47
Mamarokkottlett: make sure your sources.list is correct, then sudo apt-get update19:47
kedgedarthanubis: do you see ... "user is now Online" notifications?19:47
Mamarokthen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:47
darthanubiskedge: i have not noticed, or can't remember19:48
kottlettMamarok: got it... update-notifier-kde ... and then the magic -d option, checks for enough disk space etc.19:48
kottlettoups19:48
Mamarokkottlett: if you are not familiar with that, you really should not do it...19:48
kottlettwanted to say: update-notifier-kde is the better choice :)19:48
kedgedarthanubis: ok19:48
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darthanubissorry19:49
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kottlettMamarok: the last linux I couldn't fix was a gentoo compiled with experiMENTAL gcc and using XFS ... and these times are over ;-)19:52
noquinhohi everybody?19:56
noquinhohow are you?19:56
noquinhocould u help me with something ?19:56
Mamarok!ask | noquinho19:57
ubottunoquinho: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:57
noquinhook19:57
noquinhoi installed ubuntu in my notebook. I took off my windows vista, but i made a copy from my documents.19:58
noquinhoBut i put cd and he says not possible to read my cd19:58
noquinhoi need my documents19:58
bobesponjanoquinho: all in one line :p19:59
Mamaroknoquinho: what did you install exactly, which version?20:00
noquinhofirst i instaled ubuntu 8.10 . After i made update for 9.0420:01
noquinhoi have 3 days using linux only20:01
Mamaroknoquinho: so you are using Gnome or KDE?20:01
Mamarokis your desktop blue or brown?20:01
noquinhognome20:02
Mamaroknoquinho: then you should ask in #ubuntu, we do KDE support here20:03
noquinhook thanks20:03
Mamarokyou are welcome :)20:03
ActionParsnipMamarok: mounting a cd is the same in all DEs20:14
Captain_HaddockActionParsnip: and? It's probably much the same in Fedora too.20:16
Captain_HaddockShould we support Fedora here? :|20:17
ActionParsnipCaptain_Haddock: its all ubuntu so its logical to support it20:17
ActionParsnipCaptain_Haddock: its still a canonical product20:17
Captain_HaddockActionParsnip: this isn't #canonical20:18
ActionParsnipi just think turning a user to another channel on the basis of they use a different DE is pretty poor20:18
Captain_Haddockit's logical to redirect the user to the proper channel so that he'll also direct all further questions to the right support people20:18
MamarokActionParsnip: I know nothing about Gnome, so I prefer not to risk my luck there :)20:19
Captain_HaddockActionParsnip: not when the other channel exists purely because of the difference in DEs.20:19
ActionParsnipCaptain_Haddock: true for the apps that make them different20:20
ActionParsnipbut for something common it doesnt really matter20:20
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ActionParsnipthey could have lied and said "yes im running kde" and the same mount command would apply20:21
[GuS]ActionParsnip: is why exist channel for every distro...20:21
MamarokActionParsnip: well, why didn't you step in?20:21
[GuS]so, is a Ubuntu question, then #Ubuntu channel20:21
MamarokActionParsnip: this discussion is useless20:21
ActionParsnipMamarok: i'm just making my point first20:21
[GuS]or why exist both channels anyway?20:21
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MamarokActionParsnip: ...20:22
ActionParsnipnoquinho: ok lets get this CD mounted20:22
Captain_Haddock[GuS]: to keep ActionParsnip entertained20:22
[GuS]lol20:22
ActionParsnipnoquinho: have you tried:  sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom020:22
NocturnHi, I just started using kubuntu20:22
NocturnHow can I join a jabber conference in kopete?20:22
ActionParsnip[GuS]: i just think users should be supported wherever they can. maybe i'm weird20:23
darthanubisNocturn: read and follow the instructions clearly in kopete to add an account. Did you even try that yet?20:23
[GuS]ActionParsnip: then for you should exist one #Ubuntu channel for 10000 users20:23
Brhad56My suspend to RAM stopped working :P~20:23
[GuS]wrong20:23
MamarokActionParsnip: if it's in the scope of the channel, else it doesn't belong here20:23
Mamarokcould you folks take this to -offtopic, please?20:23
darthanubisyeah please20:24
* darthanubis sheesh20:24
[GuS]:P20:24
Nocturndarthanubis: what instructions?  I added an account and that's fine but I cannot find conference chat20:24
darthanubisNocturn: http://userbase.kde.org/Kopete_Jabber_Muc20:25
darthanubispractice your google-fu20:25
Nocturndarthanubis: it says "This is the "join groupchat" action in the jabber menu", but I cannot find the jabber menu20:28
Nocturnyou have to excuse me, I'm a bit lost after using pidgin for years20:28
darthanubisNocturn: no worries, you can STILL use pidgin20:29
darthanubisNocturn: use what you know, until you learn the other apps20:29
darthanubisnothing wrong with that20:29
Nocturndarthanubis: I know, but the whole point of trying kde4 is to user KDE4 apps...20:29
darthanubisI can dig it. It is what I'm doing now20:29
darthanubisI'm loving kde4, but not kopete so much20:30
NocturnKDE4 is pretty cool indeed.  But I never like kopete in the past so I'm giving it a fresh chance20:30
NocturnQuassel is pretty cool though20:30
darthanubisI removed quassel from jump and prefer konversation as it looks and feels more like xchat20:32
Captain_HaddockNocturn: I'm still sticking to pidgin myself20:33
Captain_HaddockI try kopete after every upgrade and then ditch it20:33
NocturnLOL20:33
darthanubismy gmail google talk account wonnn't even connect20:34
darthanubishttp://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=5755720:35
Nocturndarthanubis: strange, mine worked instantly20:35
Nocturnkopete Version 0.70.9020:35
Nocturnon kubuntu 9.10 alpha320:35
carpiihow is kde 4.x these days ?  last time i used it i was at a conference and it just crashed all over the shop :(20:36
carpiiit was embarassing while everyone else was sat with their macbooks20:37
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avihayCaptain_Haddock: what IM program do you use insted of keopete?20:37
carpiihe already said pidgin :p20:38
carpiii use pidgin too, its a bit basic but it works20:38
darthanubiscarpii: KDE4x is so good now, I stopped using gnome20:39
carpiihm20:39
darthanubiswho knew, I did not need compiz for a beautiful functional desktop20:39
carpiistable, and feature rich would you say ?20:39
darthanubisTOTALLY20:40
darthanubisI'm using 4.3RC320:40
carpiii think i used 4.1 or something. it had many issues20:40
carpiiok, maybe its time to give it another go, thanks20:40
darthanubis4.2 is even rock solid20:40
carpiione thing people were ridiculing me for20:40
darthanubisyou wn't be sorry20:40
carpiiwas the ability to rotate windows20:40
carpiiand i never understood what the purpose of this was20:40
carpiiany idea?20:40
darthanubisthe purpose?20:40
darthanubislol20:40
darthanubisif you need to ask it aint for you20:41
carpiiwell its kinda cool, but at the same time really pointless :p20:41
darthanubisif you don't use multiple desktops then it aint for you20:41
darthanubisnothing pointless about it20:41
carpiii do20:41
carpiienlighten me, maybe im being dumb :)20:41
darthanubisjust because it is beyond your understanding, means nothing20:41
carpiiheh20:41
darthanubisI can get to another desktop quickly20:42
carpiiat this moment in time, do you have any ortated windows on your desktop ?20:42
darthanubisand with flare if need be20:42
izizzlehey everyone20:42
darthanubishi20:42
carpiino wait, you know what i mean by rotate ?20:42
darthanubisortated?20:42
carpiirotated20:42
darthanubiscube effect?20:42
carpiinop20:42
izizzleI'm having some issues with the Arora browser20:42
darthanubisyes20:42
izizzlecan anyone help me out/20:42
carpiiwere talking different things20:42
darthanubiscarpii: expound?20:42
carpiiactually i think it wasnt all windows, but gadget windows20:42
carpiiyou could rab a handle and rotate them by 90 degress, or upside down etc20:43
carpiigrab20:43
darthanubiswidgets?20:43
izizzlecan anyone help me out?20:43
carpiiyes20:43
Captain_Haddockizizzle: try #ubuntu+120:43
izizzlealright20:43
carpiisorry, its a while since i used it20:43
darthanubisI use widgets, but don't "rotate" them20:43
carpiiok good to know20:43
izizzlebut I'm on Kubuntu20:43
carpiiyou garee thats pointless then, really ?20:43
carpiiagree20:43
carpiiizizzle, is the issue youre having specific to KDE ?20:44
Captain_Haddockizizzle: you're using karmic, though. Right? That channel handles karmic "support" for both KDE and Gnome.20:44
izizzleit is KDE specific, and I'm on Jaunty20:44
Captain_Haddockah. I thought Arora was a Karmic thing.20:44
izizzleKDE 4.2.420:45
Captain_Haddock(sorry :)20:45
izizzlecan you help me out?20:45
izizzlenp20:45
darthanubisizizzle: ask the question already20:45
Captain_HaddockI'm unfamiliar with it. I'm happy with FF and Opera :)20:45
izizzleWell, I start up Arora and everything starts up just fine, but then it freezes and I have to terminate it20:46
izizzlehereis the terminal output: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6420:47
izizzle*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: failed to initialize brower-side RPC events listener20:47
izizzle*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: failed to initialize brower-side RPC events listener20:47
izizzleGtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6420:47
izizzleserver bind: Address already in use20:47
FloodBotK2izizzle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:47
izizzleany ideas?20:47
Captain_Haddockizizzle: install the canberra w/e module?20:48
izizzle?20:49
izizzlethe module is necessary i believe20:49
Captain_Haddockizizzle: is it installed?20:49
izizzleyea20:49
izizzlelibcanberra-gtk-module is installed20:49
izizzleany ideas20:50
izizzle?20:50
Captain_Haddockbesides that, no20:50
izizzlealright20:50
izizzlethanks though20:50
Captain_HaddockI suggest you try #ubuntu+1 ...20:51
izizzlealright20:51
izizzlemaybe later20:51
izizzleThanks20:51
Captain_Haddockmaybe that wasn't very sound advice :|20:51
Captain_Haddock!info arora20:52
ubottuarora (source: arora): simple cross platform web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 559 kB, installed size 1736 kB20:52
darthanubisyeah i can't sign into my gmail account with kopete20:55
darthanubisreally don't like this app20:55
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mironhi21:10
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mironanybody here?21:11
Captain_Haddock!question21:13
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:13
gilsonola21:20
Patwotrikhi21:27
PatwotrikI wanna know what type of memory I have21:27
PatwotrikTried to google it, but I only find tips for win21:27
Captain_HaddockPatwotrik: try sudo lshw21:30
Patwotrikah21:30
Patwotriktnx21:30
Patwotrikdidnt get som much info21:32
Patwotrikdescription: DIMM SDRAM Synchronous; product: PartNum1; vendor: Manufacturer1; serial: SerNum121:33
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Zxcvbwhat happens when a file is recieved via bluetooth in kubuntu?22:15
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chiselso i dropped into kde lass nite, diggin it, but, i closed something on my desktop, not sure what its called so i can turn it back on. here's what it did: displayed things that were on my gnome desktop. wuz that plasma? whether it wuz or not, how do i get it back?22:16
chiselwakey wakey eggs and bakey!!22:19
NeostaticHi i need help as a first time user of kubuntu22:21
NeostaticI cant make it start so i can use it22:21
Captain_HaddockNeostatic: please provide more information.22:29
hagisbasheruk http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o72/hagisbasheruk/snapshot3-1.png  window chooser in action on Kubuntu Netbook Edition, feel free to use22:32
pavelovichwho is french?22:34
aftertafhey!22:35
aftertafanyone have their system killed with 4.3 RC3?22:36
aftertafor did I do something not good? :)22:36
Captain_Haddockhagisbasheruk: nifty22:37
Captain_Haddock!fr | pavelovich22:37
ubottupavelovich: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr22:37
aftertafanyone?22:39
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luis_ei guys what happens with the bluetooth?22:48
luis_i try opening KBluetooth, but it doesnt open22:48
luis_????22:49
pavelovichwho can tell me french canal ?22:51
aftertaf!fr22:51
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr22:51
pavelovichthanks22:51
aftertafde rien22:52
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usuarioboa tarde23:27
usuarioalguém ?23:27
blineunder Manage Connections when I add a wireless connection there is a greyed out "System Connection" checkbox. How can I enable that?23:30
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macoin kaddressbook/kontact, how do i move a contact from one addressbook to another (since this person's in the wrong one)?23:41
Gerlofhi23:42
Neostatic-HELP i cant install kubuntu no matter what i do, i have tried to mount it with daemon tools and install but it didnt work, i also have burned it onto a cd, but i couldnt install why?23:55
macoNeostatic-: how did you burn it to cd?23:56
macoNeostatic-: did you burn it as an image or as a file?23:56
maco(must be the former to work)23:56
maco(also i have no idea what daemon tools means)23:56
Neostatic-maco: i burned it as an image23:56
macook and then when you boot from it?23:57
Neostatic-daemon tools is a virtual rom drive where you can mount images23:57
macoah ok23:57
Neostatic-I dont know how23:57
Neostatic-I tried the option help me boot from cd23:57
macoput the cd in and reboot. it might boot from teh cd. if it doesn't, then you need to tell your bios to use the cd rom drive as the first boot device23:57
Neostatic-But it didnt work there was an error23:58
Neostatic-ok i go to change bios now i be back soon if it doesnt work23:58

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