[00:05]  * BUGabundo $echo moo; reply: foobed
[00:06] <bdmurray> l3dx: I'm not quite sure how to calculate variance but this http://www.ajdesigner.com/phpstatistics/variance_sample.php returns 5 also
[00:10] <bdmurray> l3dx: if it is a bug it's likely an upstream bug
[00:10] <l3dx> bdmurray: ok
[00:10] <l3dx> I was just excited to find something I possibly could "contribute" to :P
[00:11] <bdmurray> well, there is some research that could be done whether it be communicating with the reporter or trying to recreate it on karmic
[00:15] <l3dx> wolfram alpha says 5 to
[00:15] <l3dx> o
[00:16] <l3dx> http://www78.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=variance+5%2C5%2C5%2C5%2C10
[00:20] <l3dx> should I change to invalid?
[00:20] <l3dx> I've already left a comment
[01:07] <bdmurray> l3dx: incomplete while awaiting a response would have been more polite
[09:18] <l3dx> good morning
[09:18] <l3dx> bdmurray: agree, changed it to incomplete
[10:11] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi, I'd like someone to triage https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/402982
[10:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 402982 in linux "Frequent screen flashing with intel video card (not present with the same packages and kernel 2.6.30)" [Undecided,New]
[10:17] <LimCore> hi, this bug should be medium priority https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/309724
[10:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 309724 in pulseaudio "no sound after fast switching between logged in users" [Low,Confirmed]
[10:18] <LimCore> can someone look into that bug?
[11:36] <BUGabundo> ola gente bonita
[12:26] <Guest66297> Hello guys, I was wondering if any one has experienced the same issue as myself, I have an Dell Inspiron 630M (Intel 915 chipset/GMA900 graphics) laptop that will not boot the Alpha 3 of Karmick
[12:27] <Guest66297> the live cd starts I hear the ubuntu start theme but the panels at the top and bottom of the screen keep flashing every 5-10 seconds
[12:27] <BUGabundo> hi Guest66297. you are asking on the wrong channel
[12:28] <BUGabundo> Guest66297: #ubuntu-bugs is meant for bug triaging not support
[12:28] <BUGabundo> please visit #ubuntu for jaunty or previous versions, or #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[12:28] <Guest66297> I wanted to report for others also
[12:28] <Guest66297> if it is common
[12:28] <Guest66297> will try Karmic then
[12:29] <BUGabundo> ok Guest66297. np
[13:09] <LimCore> hi people
[14:27] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: or any one,  in case wants to take a look bug 404542
[14:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 404542 in linux "system frozen after a few secs after login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404542
[15:37] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/402982
[15:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 402982 in linux "Kernel mode switching causes frequent screen flickering with intel video card (not present with the same packages and kernel 2.6.30)" [Undecided,New]
[15:37] <Le-Chuck_ITA> could someone please triage?
[16:28] <yofel> Le-Chuck_ITA: next time you report a bug please use 'ubuntu-bug <package>' - then apport will add some information that might be relevant ;)
[16:28] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yofel: I could not because of the flickering!
[16:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but yes I have to learn to use it regularly, anyways
[16:29] <Le-Chuck_ITA> the only time I used it, it was absolutely unneeded :)
[16:32] <yofel> Le-Chuck_ITA: you can also use ubuntu-bug from a tty, save the report into a file and then submit the report from somewhere else, apport works over 'ssh -X' as well
[16:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yofel: did not know, thanks!
[16:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> that seems much more hassle-free
[16:33] <Le-Chuck_ITA> in my case, yofel, a reboot with the old kernel is sufficient
[16:34] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yofel: you suggested me to add  i915.modeset=0 didn't you?
[16:35] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Just curious about the fact that the kernel says "unrecognised command line argument" so who is reading that? Xorg?
[16:38] <yofel> not sure, I just know that's how kms is disabled, but not how that is actually done
[16:39] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yofel: I'd like to be sure some developer acks the problem soon or later in karmic, even if maybe it's difficult to solve (but we would be still in time for creating a blacklist for kms)
[16:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> so I milestoned the bug, is this enough or may it be noticed too late?
[16:40] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Or maybe the kernel developers try to look at all bugs by default?
[16:42] <yofel> I'm not very familiar with how the kernel team works, maybe somebody else can answer you that
[16:42] <Le-Chuck_ITA> hmm, I will retry on #ubuntu-kernel but it seems like they are excessively busy
[16:43] <Le-Chuck_ITA> given the number of high priority bugs in linux in ubuntu I am not surprised at all
[16:44] <Le-Chuck_ITA> will retry in a week
[16:45] <Le-Chuck_ITA> yofel if you could triage that I would have finished my work on that bug :)
[23:22] <penguin42> can someone help me with bug 404670 please
[23:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 404670 in pulseaudio "[karmic] Can't reload alsa modules because pulse won't die" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404670
[23:23] <penguin42> Chris is right that it's a client restarting, but if this is gnome-settings-daemon (which it seems to be, together with the volume app) killing the settings daemon is not very nice
[23:25]  * penguin42 isn't too sure what to do next - the change is a pain
[23:41] <dajomu> anyone not asleap?
[23:41] <penguin42> me
[23:41] <dajomu> great.
[23:42] <yofel> depends on the about of coffee you've got ;)
[23:42] <yofel> s/about/amount
[23:42] <dajomu> yes
[23:42] <dajomu> hehe
[23:42] <dajomu> still issues with the intel drivers here
[23:42] <penguin42> dajomu: Video or intel?
[23:42] <penguin42> bzzzt
[23:42] <penguin42> video or audio?
[23:42] <dajomu> intel
[23:43] <dajomu> I can boot into gnome. I can hear the welcome sounde, but I cannot see anyting. only a dark screen
[23:43] <yofel> dajomu: a specific bug number?
[23:43] <penguin42> laptop screen or external display?
[23:44] <dajomu> but 281402
[23:44] <dajomu> but=bug
[23:44] <yofel> bug 281402
[23:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 281402 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845] display problem" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281402
[23:45] <dajomu> yes
[23:45] <dajomu> ok... I have to run... wife calling....***********
[23:46] <bcurtiswx> haha
[23:47] <yofel> dajomu: That bug is about an incorrect resolution, not about black screens
[23:47] <yofel> also, can we shift this to #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 since this is more a support request
[23:49] <bcurtiswx> yofel: i don't see a problem staying here since you're the only chatter going on
[23:49] <bcurtiswx> when any user sees #ubuntu-bugs they immediately think ooh, a bug support channel
[23:50] <yofel> yeah, but I don't think everyone from there is here as well, and they might know something too ;)
[23:50] <bcurtiswx> which is why i think this channel needs a new name or a change of services :P
[23:50] <bcurtiswx> yofel, don't disagree at all :D
[23:50] <yofel> true