[00:00] <burkmat> If I `renice` cron to -5, and then add a cronjob to do something like `ps > blah`, will the cronjob be run with the same priority as cron itself?
[00:00] <silentContender> Hello, can some one help me troubleshoot Amarok 2?
[00:00] <Lynx-O> yes
[00:00] <Lynx-O> its apt-get reconfigure Xserver right?
[00:01] <TheNewGuy> mrwes thanks!
[00:01] <vikas> ok guys its midnight here, i will leave, will see you guys tomorrow, bye
[00:01] <theTroy> how to share a folder through nfs? not the whole filesystem
[00:03]  * aprilhare has a problem: How do I install OOo3.1.1 under Ubuntu? got OOo3.1 installed, however OOo3.1 AMD64 has a bug with Word doc tables that was fixed in 3.1.1 - I need that fix! How do I install 3.1.1 under Ubuntu?
[00:04] <TheNewGuy> I need to upgrade my ram  to run but I need to get info on what my computer can do, its old and dell will not help, where can i go?  any ideas?
[00:04] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: do you have model of your dell? if so, go to www.crucial.com
[00:05] <theTroy> how to share a folder through nfs? not the whole filesystem
[00:05] <nelson> hola desde chile
[00:05] <nelson> hola
[00:06] <ramon> holaa
[00:06] <nelson> hola
[00:06] <nelson> d
[00:06] <ramon> no tengo audioo alguien me puede ayudar
[00:06] <wolgo> Hi
[00:06] <nelson> hola, como cambio el color de las letras
[00:06] <bastidrazor> !es | nelson
[00:06] <nelson> si
[00:06] <TheNewGuy> darrylm, thanks they say 256, but there was a guy on another forum that said he was running 512meg, but It was an old post and I have not gotten a response.  it may be possilbe with a bios upgrade, but I can't get specific information.
[00:07] <nelson> gracias
[00:07] <wolgo> Is there a "minimal ubuntu"?
[00:07] <ramon> #kubuntu-es
[00:07] <darrylm>  TheNewGuy: what is model of your dell?
[00:07] <wolgo> By minimal I mean no packages installed except the base os/coreutil
[00:08] <TheNewGuy> optiplex g1 450 pentium  a09 bios, which is strange because dell only offers the a07 as an upgrade.
[00:08] <durt> wolgo, there is an option to do a cli install from the alternate cd
[00:09] <wolgo> maybe I should have searched first lol https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:09] <wolgo> durt: oh thanks
[00:09] <pokey19> hello. I have a new HP netbook that i just put Ubuntu on. It was with XP. Now the wireless does not work with it in my home.
[00:09] <pokey19> but it works at my school. And it worked before i put ubuntu on.
[00:09] <pokey19> anyone know what could be up?
[00:10] <Roasted> I just downloaded virtualbox 3 from the official web site, but I don't have an icon in Ubuntu associated with it. How do I create one or is it here and I dont know it?
[00:10] <tolmun> aprilhare, hi you have Ooo repositories
[00:11] <eklof> Hi. Anyone knows what the ata/0 process do? It shoots up to 80-90% cpu when i download stuff in about 25Mbps.
[00:12] <eklof> I've checked stuff like DMA and md-raid-issues but can't figure out why the cpu get's hogged as soon as there is some disk-io.
[00:12] <nelson> hello
[00:13] <aprilhare> tolmun: yes i have OOo repositories. but i'm looking for 3.1.1
[00:13] <TheNewGuy> does anyone have an opinion on solid state drives with ubuntu?
[00:13] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: looks like u might be stuck with 256 ram. should be ok tho. if not try running xubuntu
[00:13] <aprilhare> bbl
[00:14] <TheNewGuy> What can I do to turn off unnessary stuff?  you kno wthe stuff that makes it look good, like the windows that act like rubber.
[00:14] <nelson> fff
[00:14] <Sabre> I have a question, i'm installing Ubuntu but I am seeing these two separate free space. How would I join these two?
[00:14] <nelson> gg
[00:14] <draeath> has anyone ever seen a kernel upgrade cause bootloader stuff to go in / instead of /boot ?
[00:15] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: if you install ubuntu 8.04 you should have any of the extra stuff unless you turn it on yourself
[00:15] <draeath> wondering if this is ubuntu's doing, or eeebuntu's changes
[00:15] <nelson> fff
[00:15] <nevyn> Sabre: are they two different physical devices?
[00:15] <Sabre> no
[00:15] <tolmun> aprilhare, August 27th 2009  release
[00:15] <bastidrazor> TheNewGuy, you're on 9.04? if so admin>preferences> advanced desktop effects.. uncheck wobbly windows
[00:15] <Sabre> nevyn: they're on the same hard drive
[00:15] <TheNewGuy> what about the security issues of 8.04?
[00:15] <nelson> dfdfd
[00:15] <nelson> df
[00:15] <nevyn> is there stuff between them like another OS?
[00:15] <nevyn> !ops
[00:15] <prince_jammys> Sabre: In the menus, there should be a "Partition Editor". Check that out. At least that's one way that comes to mind.
[00:16] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: if you do, its under System/Preferences/Advanded Desktop Settings
[00:16] <silentContender> How do I rollback libgpod?  I think Amarok 2 uses 0.3.2 but I have 0.7.*
[00:16] <nelson> dsd
[00:16] <Gary> nelson: do you need any help?
[00:16] <rollerron> Hi
[00:16] <nevyn> nelson: stop that please.
[00:16] <Sabre> nevyn: there's another partition that holds my archives
[00:16] <nevyn> Sabre: ok..
[00:16] <nelson> dfd
[00:16] <nelson> df
[00:16] <Sabre> prince_jammys: Sorry, this is my first time encountering this problem. But where is Partition Editor?
[00:16] <nevyn> so the problem is you have <<<FREESPACE>>>><yourarchives><morefreespace>
[00:17] <Sabre> nevyn: yeah
[00:17] <tolmun> df -h
[00:17] <prince_jammys> Sabre: I think it's in the rightmost menu.
[00:17] <nevyn> so you've got two options
[00:17] <nevyn> use more parted stuff than I know to move your archives to the end of the disk...
[00:17] <TheNewGuy> darrylm thanks
[00:17] <nevyn> or join the freespace with LVM
[00:17] <Sabre> nevyn: LVM?
[00:18] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: sure no problem, if you want to shut that off all together (i did) i can give u instructions for that too
[00:18] <nevyn> Sabre: Logical volume manager. it's AWESOME ;)
[00:18] <nevyn> Sabre: it basically let's you seperate the disk partitions from how filesystems are
[00:19] <nevyn> Sabre: so you have a physical volume pool (disks or partitions)
[00:19] <nevyn> and then you have the logical volumes which have your filesystems in them
[00:19] <Sabre> nevyn: hmm...ok I see, is it included in the Ubuntu installation disc?
[00:19] <nevyn> and lvm let's you snapshot these and clone them and migrate things online
[00:19] <toothbrush> does anyone know of a way to change the color of the text on the gnome bar menus?
[00:20] <nevyn> I'm sure it is.
[00:20] <Sabre> nevyn: ok, thanks a lot i'll have a look around.
[00:20] <nentis> anyone willing to assist with a possible bug with the new kvm update to Jaunty?
[00:21] <cooper77z> is there a way to tell the temperature of my cpu?
[00:21] <l3dx> cooper77z: lm-sensors
[00:21] <bastidrazor> cooper77z, acpi -V
[00:22] <tolmun> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/*
[00:22] <cooper77z> thanks, but I am not sure what you mean, are those programs?
[00:22] <bastidrazor> cooper77z, in a terminal type acpi -Vf
[00:22] <cooper77z> thanks
[00:23] <bastidrazor> cooper77z, or leave off the f for temps in C
[00:23] <TheNewGuy> darrylm what do yo umean shut it off?  you man the gui?  cause I need a gui.
[00:23] <scribawf> Any recommendations for AVI to WMA converter, Please
[00:23] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: no just the special effects. its really easy.
[00:23] <cooper77z> I am going to try these out. thanks bye
[00:24] <TheNewGuy> oh yes, that would be great, the only thing is i need the collor options for collor  blindness.
[00:25] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: go to System/Preferences/Advanced Desktop Settings   --- look for Window Decoration   ---- under Window Decoration you will find a spot Command and then a box to place text in. type in "metacity --replace"  (no quotes of course)
[00:25] <Dekko2> Can someone here please tell me why after I removed a custom usplash I now get a TEST PATTERN like screen on boot and shutdown (looking like an old TV test-pattern) ... tried reinstalling ubuntu splash but still there is only the testpattern.
[00:25] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: that will give u a normal metacity desktop with no frills
[00:27] <RanyAlbeg> Q: i wrote a c program which gets 2 parameters. the second is a string which is being modified by the program. in case i have a string contains the character '!' i get : Unkown event ... there are cases that bash interprets the '!'   sign and trying to execute matched command from history. i also tried to quote the string ( "blabla!3012") , but i still get !3012 Unknown event. is there a way that i can stop bash from doing this ? thanks
[00:28] <Dekko2> can someone please tell me how to get my normal Ubuntu usplash to show again???
[00:28] <wolgo> hi
[00:28] <th0r> what happened to handbrake...it is no longer in the repos?
[00:28] <wolgo> Are the AMD64 images only for amd processors?
[00:29] <BiggBoss> !java
[00:29] <wolgo> Where can I get an Intel64 iso
[00:29] <bastidrazor> !usplash | Dekko2 maybe this command will also fix it?
[00:29] <durt> wolgo, no all 64 bit
[00:29] <wolgo> I am searching
[00:29] <wolgo> durt: ahh okay
[00:29] <wolgo> do what does AMD stand for?
[00:30] <lightningseed> wolgo: advanced micro devices or something like that
[00:30] <durt> wolgo, AMD first developed the 64 bit intruction set, intel licensed it
[00:30] <wolgo> ahh okay
[00:30] <TheNewGuy> darrylm with that make my ubuntu more like xbutu?
[00:30] <syntax> how would you run xf86-video-ati-6.9.0 in terminal for setup
[00:30] <wolgo> I thought it might mean something different then what the AMD name actually stands for
[00:30] <wolgo> learn something every day :)
[00:30] <wolgo> thanks guys
[00:31] <lightningseed> they're just 64bit extensions tacked on to the old intel 32bit arch
[00:31] <wolgo> IA32
[00:31] <wolgo> +32
[00:31] <Dekko2> isn't there anyone here who knows what to do with the usplash?
[00:31] <darrylm> TheNewGuy: no it will only make it a standard gnome desktop with metacity as your desktop manager.
[00:31] <wolgo> ba dum tsh
[00:32] <elbuo> i need some extensive support
[00:33] <elbuo> can someone help me?
[00:33] <BiggBoss> hmm. im installing jdk in ubuntu. A blue windows has prompt in putty (agreement terms). At the end appears a <ok>
[00:33] <BiggBoss> how can "press" it :/
[00:33] <durt> BiggBoss, Tab?
[00:33] <DasEi> BiggBoss: Tab
[00:33] <BiggBoss> ah
[00:33] <wolgo> BiggBoss: tab, arrow keys then enter
[00:33] <lightningseed> BiggBoss: use tab to get to it then press enter
[00:33] <BiggBoss>  found
[00:33] <stercor> How do I shorten the login screen display time?  Or is there a key combination to turn it off?
[00:33] <BiggBoss> i use left arrow :D
[00:34] <wolgo> BiggBoss: man dialog if it is console it might help in the future
[00:34] <DasEi> !ask | elbuo
[00:34] <darrylm> stercor: are you talking about your grub or your actual log in screen (assuming you mean you are auto-logging in)
[00:35] <stercor> darrylm: actual login screen
[00:35] <tolmun> stercor gdmsetup
[00:35] <jl> how do I find out my kernel version
[00:35] <lightningseed> jl: uname -r
[00:35] <tolmun> uname -r
[00:35] <DasEi> jl: uname -are
[00:36] <DasEi> jl: uname -are,
[00:36] <TheNewGuy> I am running a lower power system, would you reccomend a xubuntu or 8.04lts ?  which would run better.  am i giving up a lot if I go with 8.04?
[00:36] <darrylm> stercor: go to System/Administration/Login Window
[00:36] <darrylm> stercor: select Security tab
[00:36] <DasEi> jl: uname -r  , d.. completition
[00:36] <tolmun> wife have kernel log =)
[00:37] <elbuo> well i usually boot ubuntu from usb and install it from there - last night it crashed and it didnt want to boot from usb nor the corrupted installation therefore i made and actual live boot cd - everything went fine, used gpart to delete the partitions and i rran the installer once more and when it finished i couldnt boot ubuntu cause it said there was an error after grup (something about the kernel killing itself) then I booted ag
[00:37] <elbuo> continues >
[00:37] <jl> thank you all.
[00:37] <TheNewGuy> what is the differnce between 8.04 and 9.04 umbuntu?
[00:37] <tolmun> welcome
[00:37] <Rewt`> 1.00
[00:38] <wolgo> -1.00
[00:38] <tolmun> lol
[00:38] <TheNewGuy> rewt!!!  lol thats funny
[00:38] <jrib> TheNewGuy: 9.04 has more recent software.  However 8.04 is LTS so it is supported longer
[00:38] <l3dx> TheNewGuy: bugfixes and newer versions of packages
[00:38] <jrib> !lts | TheNewGuy
[00:38] <cooper77z> Hello again, I put the cpu temp to the side for now, but I saved the instructionals, right now what I am really trying to do is get my DVD+R recording into cinelerra, what's the best way to do that bc I have the rest recording finalized in the computers dvd drive, what should I do next?
[00:38] <elbuo> and then it installed itself completely, i rebooted and when it passed grub i got another error saying the the kernel wanted to kill the unit so i cleaned the partition again and im tryin once more with cd and didnt work
[00:38] <stercor> darrylm: dont have System/Administration option
[00:38] <eps1lon> 8.04 is older, and when it was released it would be supported for a few years, instead of 18 months.
[00:38] <elbuo> every time is a different error
[00:38] <eps1lon> 8.04 is more stable, but I'd say outdated by now.
[00:38] <Rewt`> so.. are there any certified ubuntu network technicians in here?
[00:38] <darrylm> stercor: what OS are you using??
[00:39] <stercor> Ummm... jaunty jackalope
[00:39] <wolgo> Rewt`: is it ubuntu specific or tcp/ip routing specific?
[00:39] <syntax> how would you run xf86-video-ati-6.9.0 in terminal for setup
[00:39] <DasEi>  elbuo : try supergrubdisk to fix your usb, or check first link of :
[00:39] <DasEi> !grub
[00:39] <darrylm> stercor: standard gnome desktop?
[00:39] <TheNewGuy> 8.04 requires a lot less ram.  why?
[00:39] <Rewt`> either, really... it just occoured to me in this world of acronyms...
[00:39] <wolgo> Rewt`: I work as a system/network admin
[00:40] <elbuo> got lost
[00:40] <stercor> I got to it by entering sudo gdmsetup.
[00:40] <elbuo> hdd is all deleted
[00:40] <darrylm> stercor: yeah that works too
[00:40] <Rewt`> wolgo: acronym
[00:40] <wolgo> not that that means much
[00:40] <wolgo> but I might be able to help.
[00:40] <darrylm> stercor: you will find what u are looking for under Security tab
[00:40] <elbuo> i used unetbooting to create the live usb.... and i used a live cd and none worked out
[00:40] <elbuo> you think its the grub loaded?
[00:40] <eps1lon> I removed the original Gnome menu, and now that I added it to the panel again, it is only the ubuntu logo. How do I make it like the default menu is? (I.e, places and system are different menus)
[00:40] <wolgo> Rewt`: what is the problem
[00:41] <TheNewGuy>  Hardy Heron 8.04, jaunty jackalope 9.04, 10.04 is going to be flatulent fanny.
[00:41] <wolgo> lol
[00:41] <DasEi> !who | elbuo
[00:41] <Rewt`> wolgo: no problem in particular.
[00:41] <wolgo> !who me
[00:41] <BiggBoss> i used sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk to get jdk, but i jave jse
[00:41] <No-BluFFing> Any 18-20 year old Female down for Funy-Clean chat?
[00:41] <BiggBoss> why?
[00:41] <wolgo> Rewt`: oh okay
[00:41] <sunonet> can someone with enough experience tell me if there is a difference in audio/video quality between windows  7 and  jaunty ?
[00:41] <tehboriz> any good network managers for linux? looking for wireless in particular, can't find a way to install wlassistant
[00:42] <DasEi>  elbuo : I got you saying you reinstalled the usb-hd and it hangs after grub ?!
[00:42] <Rewt`> wolgo: but, hey, being able to call yourself a Certified Ubuntu Network Technician would be cool
[00:42] <jrib> tehboriz: network-manager (the one installed by default)
[00:42] <TheNewGuy> thanks ubottu
[00:42] <wolgo> Rewt`: yeah lol
[00:42] <TheNewGuy> ubottu thanks
[00:42] <Rewt`> wolgo: you get my notice? ;-)
[00:42] <cooper77z> I tried dvd rip to rip the dvd+R but the menus go off the screen, and I can't enable, what's a good program for transforming dvd+r into quicktime for linux, I intend to hook up my svhs camcorder to  my dvd recorder and record my videos, then I want to edit them in cinelerra
[00:42] <tehboriz> hey jrib i'm in kubuntu, is there a way to install it?
[00:42] <DasEi> !brain | TheNewGuy
[00:42] <wolgo> Rewt`: I read your vector victor
[00:42] <TheNewGuy> ubuttu your a bot!
[00:42] <archive^nom> lol my bars just got stuck what do I do?
[00:42] <Rewt`> wolgo: roger roger
[00:42] <jrib> tehboriz: try #kubuntu, I'm sure there is a default one there too
[00:43] <TheNewGuy> ubuttu, I love you
[00:43] <elbuo> yes i install from usb to HDD and when it passes grub it loads for a few secs then throws me some errorrs about the kernel
[00:43] <sunonet> are they the same?
[00:43] <Rewt`> hmm... somone owns that domain
[00:43] <archive^nom> (top bar and bottom bar are not RESPONDING) :S
[00:43] <DasEi> elbuo: what errors ?
[00:43] <Guest85387> HAY does anybody know how to do the pergram that is calld wine'because i have been trying to get a lot of windeos vista stuff onto wine.can some one help me out plese
[00:43] <archive^nom> how can I access the terminal with a shortcut?
[00:43] <TheNewGuy> Thanks for the help everyone!!  this is a great channel!!  and remember 10.04 flatulent fanny is coming soon!
[00:44] <laeg> why is ubuntu no longer shipping with pidgin?
[00:44] <laeg> !pidgin
[00:44] <elbuo> !dasei | they were different in usb and live cd
[00:44] <lightningseed> eps1lon: add menu bar instead of mainmenu
[00:44] <DasEi> Guest85387: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:44] <archive^nom> !terminal
[00:44] <eps1lon> lightningseed: Yeah, I figured it out. Thanks all the same : )
[00:44] <sebsebseb> laeg: that's the next version
[00:44] <wolgo> I wonder when they will come out with the Certified Ubuntu Network Technician.
[00:44] <archive^nom> !terminal shortcut key
[00:44] <cooper77z> if menus go off the screen how do I resize the menu if the bottom corner is beneath the program line?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> !karmic >  leachim6|lt
[00:44] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: eh? There's a entry in the applications menu for Terminal.
[00:44] <sebsebseb> leachim6|lt: whoops wrong person
[00:44] <elbuo> i do emember one saying it couldnt read line 49 from scripts/functions causing the kernel to kill unit
[00:45] <archive^nom> prince_jammys, that's a tad hard if you can't access the menu's :p
[00:45] <jondavis> can some one plese help me
[00:45] <archive^nom> prince_jammys, my top & boddom bar are unresponsive
[00:45] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: oh, then do Alt+F2 and type "gnome-terminal", or "xterm", or the terminal of your choice.
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !karmic > laeg
[00:45] <DasEi> elbuo: if you just use the installer cd and install to usbhd, maybe even disconnect internal drives won't work ?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !helpme |  jondavis
[00:45] <wolgo> my girlfriend has vista on her laptop
[00:46] <sebsebseb> jondavis: What do you want help with?
[00:46] <archive^nom> prince_jammys, thanks, do you also happen to know how I get my bars back to response?
[00:46] <tehboriz> jrib: i didnt get a reply from there initially so i came here but now someone  helped me out, thanks for hearing me out
[00:46] <jondavis> wine programs
[00:46] <elbuo> so its most likely that the HDD is screwed?
[00:46] <wolgo> Rewt`: I think that she is a Certified Ubuntu Network Technician sometimes.
[00:46] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: I'm afraid not. I don't have gnome, so I forgot.
[00:46] <sebsebseb> jondavis: ok  then really you should join #winehq and ask for help there
[00:46] <elbuo> or do you mean like unplug and plug again
[00:46] <DasEi> Guest85387: after that can open ((some)) *.exe apps in it, see :
[00:46] <jondavis> i need some vista stuff
[00:46] <elbuo> ?
[00:46] <DasEi> !wine
[00:46] <cooper77z> brb
[00:46] <tolmun> !karmic >  leachim6|lt
[00:47] <sebsebseb> jondavis: if  your after  application configuring help
[00:47] <archive^nom> prince_jammys, cool, thanks anyways, I'm definitely trying out KDE (can't really get used to Gnome...)
[00:47] <wolgo> !karmic > wolgo
[00:47] <sebsebseb> tolmun: we both did that to wrong person by mistake
[00:47] <jondavis> i have try but it is not working
[00:47] <jondavis> app
[00:47] <sebsebseb> jondavis: Which program?
[00:47] <DasEi> elbuo: please put in nick, if talking to me, else I loose your message; why should hd be screwed ?
[00:47] <jondavis> app
[00:47] <prince_jammys> wolgo: you can simply: '/msg ubottu karmic' and it'll send you a message.
[00:47] <jondavis> office
[00:48] <archive^nom> How do I restart desktop interface w/o losing all my windows ?
[00:48] <jondavis> and so on
[00:48] <tolmun> sorry
[00:48] <phoenixz> archive^nom: If you figure that one out, let me know please!
[00:48] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: I don't think you can.
[00:48] <elbuo> !DasEi sorry im a n00b in this IRC stuff is there a private chat?
[00:48] <BiggBoss> how can i install java development kit in ubuntu 8.10? i followed ubuntu documentation to get jdk and i just got jse
[00:48] <sebsebseb> jondavis: Linux distributions tend to have good alternatives to Microsoft Office :)   Open Office, KOffice, Abiword, and Gnumeric a spread sheet app
[00:48] <stercor> How do I get the time display in the bottom right corner to be 24-hour time?
[00:49] <sebsebseb> jondavis: I think Office 2007  at this time might need a little configuring to get working in Wine,  but  most of Office 2003 should still work well I think
[00:49] <wolgo> stercor: add 12 to the current number you see and pretend that you are seeing pretty colors
[00:49] <DasEi> elbuo: no need for pm, just start line with nick (without '!'), see:
[00:49] <archive^nom> prince_jammys,  phoenixz: I'll take a look around on the net, brb
[00:49] <DasEi> !tab
[00:49] <lightningseed> sebsebseb: right click on the clock >> and go to prefrences and click 24 hour format
[00:49] <sebsebseb> lightningseed: what?
[00:49] <tolmun> !list
[00:49] <elbuo> DasEi
[00:50] <elbuo> DasEi well i dont know do you have any suggestions?
[00:50] <wolgo> tab, lab, gab, cab, nab, jab
[00:50] <tolmun> lol
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !ot
[00:50] <DasEi> elbuo: why do you think hd is broken ?
[00:50] <lightningseed> stercor rather
[00:50] <tolmun> !fish
[00:50] <wolgo> lol, bowl, mole, sole, goal, troll, whole, soul, roll, pole, toll, dole
[00:50] <tolmun> !who f. my wife
[00:50] <sebsebseb> jondavis: ok your back?
[00:50] <Pici> wolgo: Please don't do that.
[00:51] <BiggBoss> how can i install java development kit in ubuntu 8.10? i followed ubuntu documentation to get jdk and i just got jse
[00:51] <Pici> wolgo: If you're bored you can join in the conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:51] <prince_jammys> tolmun: you may /msg ubottu if you'd like to explore it.
[00:51] <wolgo> Pici: oh okay lol
[00:51] <wolgo> Pici: sorry
[00:52] <elbuo> DasEi because it was given to me if i could fix it cuz wincrap wouldnt load...so i tried xp, vista and 7 and none could write in the HDD, then i isntelled linux and it worked so i thought i could give him dual boot. when i was running gparted light went out and the laptop turned off eventually without completing and since then my problems sttarted
[00:53] <DasEi> elbuo: I see, do you have a live cd handy and the drive around ?
[00:53] <Guest45329> hey
[00:53] <Guest45329> bixas
[00:54] <tolmun> !loglevel
[00:54] <DasEi> !brain | tolmun
[00:54] <archive^nom> prince_jammys,  phoenixz: -  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/restart-the-ubuntu-gnome-user-interface-quickly/
[00:55] <tolmun> thx
[00:55] <elbuo> DasEi yes i have a live cd with no errors...scanned in 2 differents laptos
[00:55] <archive^nom> prince_jammys,  phoenixz: -you have to save all ur work tho
[00:55] <phoenixz> archive^nom: I can imagine that one..
[00:55] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: yeah, but that wasn't your question.
[00:55] <archive^nom> true
[00:55] <archive^nom> quickly =! safely :P
[00:55] <DasEi> elbuo : attach the usb-hd then and boot into live, call the messenger there and come back here
[00:55] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X, but the state of the windowed apps will be lost
[00:56] <elbuo> DasEi im currently running another install from usb...75% atm
[00:56] <phoenixz> archive^nom: umm.. ctrl-alt-backspace (if enabled, its disabled in many instances) will effectively put a shotgun to X and pull the trigger.. thats lots, but nothing like restarting X without affecting the apps ontop of it :)
[00:56] <kohlra1> Anyone know how to fix grub, that "grubhowto" just made a serious mess of my HD?
[00:56] <DasEi> elbuo: still a port free for the other usb ?
[00:56] <archive^nom> indeed
[00:56] <macman_> hey all  .. im trying to get a 7.95gig video to 4.8gigs .. is this possible .. if so how ?
[00:56] <DasEi> kohlra1: try super-grub-disk (google)
[00:56] <archive^nom> is it called x ?
[00:57] <elbuo> DasEi  im installing into the laptop's HDD from 1 usb yeah and i have 2 more usb ports available to use
[00:57] <archive^nom> (the framework and stuff, the windows etc.)
[00:57] <prince_jammys> archive^nom: yes
[00:57] <tolmun> kohlra1: boot live cd ad grub-install
[00:57] <prince_jammys> !X
[00:57] <archive^nom> ah great thx :)
[00:57] <DasEi> elbuo: so attach the 'broken' drive...
[00:57] <kohlra1> Thanks DasEi, i hope it works and that the method in the grubhowto didn't delete everything i need... Otherwise i have some serious work to do....
[00:58] <elbuo> DasEi :S the one i think is broken is the HDD of the laptop not the usb-hd...
[00:58] <DasEi> kohlra1: the grub-thingy works most times, else just messes mbr for usual
[00:58] <kohlra1> tolmun: soem weird problems that keep that from working. The problem is that grub got totally purged at this point.
[00:58] <BiggBoss> how can i install java development kit in ubuntu 8.10? i followed ubuntu documentation to get jdk and i just got jse
[00:58] <DasEi> elbuo: the one youi're on now ?
[00:58] <kohlra1> DasEi: unfortunately, the grubhowto didn't mess up the mbr... it did other things...
[00:59] <elbuo> DasEi nop i have it just right here with me but its not this one
[00:59] <kohlra1> DasEi: i wish there was a way to throw a warning out there....
[00:59] <wolgo> BiggBoss: are you writing java apps?
[01:00] <wolgo> I have used gcj pretty successfully
[01:00] <tolmun> kohlra1: gparted from scratch =(
[01:00] <BiggBoss> ye, but not in ubuntu
[01:00] <BiggBoss> i need jdk in ubuntu to run an application
[01:00] <cooper77z> what's the best and easiest program to rip a dvd+r with absolutely no encryption?
[01:01] <DasEi> cooper77z: best is a hard word;; k3b does it well
[01:01] <DasEi> !k3b
[01:01] <prince_jammys> cooper77z: i don't know about best or easiest, but k3b should do it.
[01:01] <cooper77z> thanks, I'll give it a go
[01:02] <kohlra1> tolmun: the problem here is... I gparted and deleted a few partitions.... Which caused grub to kinda loose its place... So i did the "GUI method," and it just started removing my current installation of ubuntu.
[01:02] <tolmun> cooper77z: rip - rest in peace
[01:02] <DasEi> elbuo: so you want a fix for a not available drive ?
[01:02] <cooper77z> I meant to say RAM not rest
[01:02] <tolmun> yeah
[01:02] <cooper77z> brb
[01:03] <elbuo> DasEi it is available, it installs completely and confirms and everything, reboots and when i change to boot from HDD in the laptop it starts giving me ugly messages about the kernel trying to kill the unit
[01:03] <tolmun> cooper77z: be ram back
[01:04] <codeshah> hey guys, I am trying to test my webapp on various systems... if I have 'app.local' on my ubuntu system setup on apache, and it is 192.168.1.x, how can I make that go there from another windows system?
[01:05] <theoraforever> I'm having some trouble with, presumably, my X server.
[01:05] <theoraforever> It's been spontaneously restarting for the last several days, which logged me out each time.
[01:05] <theoraforever> At one point, it wouldn't load any windows.
[01:05] <theoraforever> At this moment, it works, but I have the options of 640x480 and 320x240 for screen res.
[01:05] <theoraforever> Any ideas?
[01:05] <FloodBot1> theoraforever: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:05] <cooper77z> lol tolmun, that was funny
[01:05] <theoraforever> NVidia geforce fx 5500 graphics card
[01:05] <DasEi> elbuo: if you set the lap to boot first from cd, then fro hd, don't have to change bios, just remove cd (and disablecd if you want), so it should work; else without checks these request becomes too speculative, you should access the system it's going about and then connect to here again
[01:06] <Sarkie> hi guys, I'm trying to fix a broken IPod, it seems to mount ok, but I can't do much else with it. can I format, or fschk it easily?
[01:06] <puff> Hey anybody.
[01:07] <puff> I'm trying to a reformat an ipod.  I think it' smounted at sdc,  but how can I be sure?  lsusb shows me:
[01:07] <puff> Bus 005 Device 095: ID 05ac:1262 Apple, Inc.
[01:07] <prince_jammys> puff: try 'mount' to view what's mounted.
[01:07] <theoraforever> I apologize for that. My client didn't show everyone else's talking until right before I was muted. I was actually wondering why it was so quiet around here. :)
[01:08] <LexLuth0r> I have got flash player working in firefox but can't with opera (which is my preferred browser) anyone know how to fix thi
[01:08] <puff> Ah, coo.
[01:09] <mezquitale> !kino
[01:10] <PMantis> Hi everyone, I used update-rc.d to remove drbd. I needed to put it back after another idea failed. However, it now tried to start before the network starts. Upstart issue? Diagnostics?
[01:10] <puff> Is gparted "msdos" format the same as fat32?
[01:11] <elbuo> DasEi install suddendly stoped
[01:11] <elbuo> -.-
[01:11] <elbuo> DasEi ill be back later i have to go
[01:11] <elbuo> DasEi thanks
[01:11] <cooper77z> I don't see a transform or convert command in k3b but I am trying to turn my dvd+r video into a quicktime program that cinelerra can use, what's my first step?
[01:11] <puff> It only shows this ipod as having 462 MB free, but it's a fairly late model ipod, it should be larger.
[01:12] <DasEi> cooper77z: youcan make a iso from the dvd which you can mount like a dvd
[01:12] <BiggBoss> how can i install java development kit in ubuntu 8.10? i followed ubuntu documentation to get jdk and i just got jse
[01:12] <DasEi> !iso
[01:12] <puff> Hm, hyeah, fdisk -l /dev/sdc shows 4GB.
[01:12] <cooper77z> but won't the iso be the same as the dvd?
[01:12] <bastidrazor> !ipod > puff
[01:13] <tolmun> !flac
[01:13] <cooper77z> this is starting to look difficult
[01:13] <puff> bastidrazor: I've been using ipod on linux for a couple years, but this ipod is hosed somehow, I jstu want to strat over from scratch with this thing, any suggestions?
[01:13] <theoraforever> I can't pastebin right now, but here's a brief description of my problem. My X server has been acting up over the last few days. Now, I'm limited to 640x480 res. This has happen twice before, on the same hardware. Both failed the same way after about a month, and I ended up reinstalling Ubuntu. Any ideas? Nvidia geforce fx 5500.
[01:14] <cooper77z> I'll work on it for a while because I am sorta attached to my analog video camera. Bye for now.
[01:14] <puff> bastidrazor: E.g. I was just going to format it, but gparted thinks it only has 463 MB of space on it.
[01:15] <koro> anyone else experiences slow scrolling when using a zoomed page in firefox?
[01:15] <koro> i noticed this happens in ubuntu while in windows firefox is just as fast as normal when i'm zoomed
[01:16] <theoraforever> I'd check, but my computer isn't working right now.
[01:17] <pwrcycle> hi all.  I'm trying to run ubuntu 9.04 on an intel iMac Intel Core Duo.  Any tips on getting wireless working
[01:17] <mr_steve> koro: It's seems just as snappy as ever for me
[01:17] <puff> hm, his seems to have some detialed info on how to reformat it http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html#SEC6
[01:17] <Zorael^nb> What do I do if pdflush suddenly decides to max out my CPU? :(
[01:17] <puff> Albeit for or putting ipodlinux on it, but.
[01:18] <AndrewGearhart> hey folks. I'm trying to figure out why when I load Firefox... I'm only getting version 3.0.11 ... :-(
[01:18] <theoraforever> Download and install the latest from firefox.com
[01:18] <bastidrazor> puff, this page may help ::  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[01:18] <DasEi> !ff3.5 > AndrewGearhart
[01:19] <AndrewGearhart> ah, DasEi, it was the Shiretoko issue... didn't realize it changed names to have the latest version... that's weird.
[01:19] <AndrewGearhart> alright. thanks folks. later.
[01:21] <crankharder> is there a flag I can launch an app with so that it is always on the current workspace?
[01:21] <Zorael^nb> I did 'sync' in a terminal to make sure stuff was written to disk just now, and now the sync process is at 100% cpu usage and not writing anything. The process can't be killed with SIG_KILL, and it's hogging a core completely
[01:23] <Argyanc> Zorael^nb, anything odd in the logs? check the output of dmesg first...
[01:23] <mlissner> Does anybody know how to be on the receiving end of the messages from ddclient?
[01:23] <Zorael^nb> Argyanc: I checked dmesg earlier, nothing in there. Any other logs?
[01:23] <mlissner> I'd like to run ddclient so I can track a stolen laptop, but I don't want to have to use a third-party like dyndns...
[01:24] <cor> yo.  I got 2 usb bluetooth dongles on two laptops, work great, except, they have identical MAC addresses. Anyone know how I might change one?
[01:24] <boss_mc> crankharder: you can set the window to 'sticky' after it is created, but I don't know about a command line option, I would think it would depend on the program
[01:24] <Argyanc> Zorael^nb, there is a nice GUI for checking logs in gnome...
[01:24] <Zorael^nb> Argyanc: running KDE ;3
[01:24] <Sarkie> hi, I'm also trying to fix an ipod, if it gets loaded but it can't be mounted, can I fsck it?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> !ipd |  Sarkie
[01:26] <sebsebseb> !ipod |  Sarkie
[01:26] <mr_steve> cor: you can try changing the MAC with ifconfig; something like sudo ifconfig <iface> hw ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[01:26] <Murrlin> g'eve all.
[01:26] <cor> I'll try, cheers
[01:27] <cor> wait a minute, won't that - oh wait I'll try and see
[01:27] <bastidrazor> cor, don't use x's .. make up a set of letters and numbers
[01:27] <Murrlin> what's the program to do an install from the command line?
[01:27] <sebsebseb> Murrlin: an install of what?
[01:28] <Murrlin> ubuntu (mint)
[01:28] <Murrlin> 9
[01:28] <cor> lol yeah
[01:28] <Daps> Can anyone tell me why I keep getting this error, when I try to install anything ?? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/232020/
[01:28] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Murrlin
[01:28] <Murrlin> my video res isn't kosher
[01:28] <sebsebseb> Murrlin: Mint is  not  supported here, since it's not an  offical version of Ubuntu
[01:28] <cor> but that won't affect the bluetooth MAC, only its eth MAC
[01:28] <Sarkie> sebsebseb, nothing really there that is helpful mate
[01:28] <Murrlin> alrighty.
[01:28] <cor> gotta play with this, see if I can get it to work
[01:28] <sebsebseb> Sarkie: ok, well I don't know
[01:29] <Sarkie> ha, thanks anyway
[01:29] <rythmc> I have got a question about samba client in ubuntu nautils, can anybody help?
[01:29] <mr_steve> cor: I think there's also a way to change the MAC on startup by editing /etc/network/interfaces, although I don't know if you can still manage the connection with network manager afterwards
[01:29] <cor> nah mr_steve, it doesn't work on bluetooth hardware, doesn't recognise that ointerface
[01:29] <cor> *your earlier suggestion, that is
[01:30] <cor> bluetooth doesn't appear in the network manager. should it?
[01:30] <mr_steve> cor: whoops, somehow I missed the "bluetooth" part of your question
[01:30] <cor> it doesn't on my other laptop, either
[01:30] <mr_steve> my bad
[01:30] <cor> haha
[01:30] <darwinwj> hey all
[01:30] <cor> hci0!!!!
[01:31] <JohnnyNewbie> Hey all
[01:31] <cor> I bought the two dongles together, very cheap, but TOO identical!
[01:32] <cor> They communicate okay, but I keep having weird issues, and I'd like to eliminate identical MAC addresses, if possible
[01:32] <darwinwj> anyone using the 9.04 out there and would like to say a couple words pro and con?
[01:33] <kukstud07> <darwinwj; You have to love it.
[01:33] <bazhang> darwinwj, you have ubuntu installed?
[01:33] <kukstud07> It has better support for samba and users in the interface.
[01:33] <silegon> who know the    nginx init.d script for ubuntu 9.04 ? I can't found it .
[01:34] <darwinwj> yep, the 8.10 on two machines, love it
[01:34] <kukstud07> I<darwinwj; Why are you not upgrading?
[01:34] <DasEi> darwinwj: more specific ?
[01:34] <darwinwj> fear maybe, lol
[01:34] <nevermore> query: is cheese meant to be able to record sound?
[01:34] <nevermore> and if so, why might it not be doing so for me?
[01:34] <nevermore> if not, alternatives?
[01:35] <Mike_lifeguard> If I'm using tar to backup my whole system, how can I update the tarball later? Will the -u option also delete files from the archive, or does that only affect adding/changing files?
[01:35] <cor> try it on a 2nd partition, if you like, install on main
[01:35] <darwinwj> I really like the 8.10, only can't connect to my xp lan
[01:35] <kukstud07> <darwinwj Fear of??? Fear of missing out? Cause it is really nice!
[01:35] <cor> can't connect to LAN, sound like instant uninstall, or else fix now. wtf
[01:36] <kukstud07> <darwinwj you should totally upgrade
[01:36] <silegon> 谁有 nginx 服务器 在 ubuntu 9.04 下的控制脚本吗？
[01:36] <Mike_lifeguard> !zh
[01:36] <darwinwj> I'll have to do it. Do you know if local networking is easier to connect to windows machines, got xp and vista too
[01:36] <cor> not that you need a modern Linux to connext to a Windows network
[01:36] <silegon> Thank you
[01:37] <Mike_lifeguard> ^_^
[01:37] <cor> dude! it's a no-brainer these days
[01:37] <darwinwj> I know, I'm pretty new at linux, but so far i really like it
[01:37] <BiggBoss> how can i give privilegies to a user (i mean not root)?
[01:37] <cor> sudo
[01:37] <cor> ;o)
[01:37] <kukstud07> <darwinwj "It is very easy to network with and when you do some research and setting up samba it seriously is a walk in the park.
[01:37] <rythmc> finding the exact same problem with samba client on 9.04. I can create samba share but good luck reading any shares from any other computers regardless if they are windows or not.
[01:38] <DasEi> darwinwj: the networking is same I think, jaunty boots slightly faster then ibex, and has some more changes, maily kernel-intgration related, just for the lan, could fix it instantly
[01:38] <kukstud07> <darwinwj Do you have shares setup right now on yours?
[01:38] <lwizardl> hi
[01:38]  * cor finds it easier to mount all samba shares in fstab
[01:38] <cor> use a ~/.smbpasswd file
[01:38] <BiggBoss> thx cor
[01:39] <pjwaffle> hey guys in second life at the public sandbox im spreading Ubuntu blocks everywhere. want to help?
[01:39] <lwizardl> i think i have an ATI AIW Radeon 9200 graphics card can someone help me so i can use the video capture on this card inside ubuntu
[01:39] <Icavatten> rythmc: gadmin-samba to the rescue!
[01:39] <pjwaffle> there's plenty of religious debate too
[01:39] <cor> not only transparent, but you can play movies and such as if they are on local machine (i.e. vlc and such won't copy the whole thing over to your hard local machine first)
[01:39] <bazhang> !ot | pjwaffle
[01:39] <pjwaffle> ok sorry
[01:39] <darwinwj> shares????? on the xp and vista machines yes, the xp is the machine with my movies, music ext, I just want to be able access it with my ubuntu
[01:40] <sseiersen> How do I set a static IP in Ubuntu?
[01:40] <cor> darwinwj, for maxiimum ease of use, use the same user/pass on both machines
[01:40] <BiggBoss> hmm, i add an user to admin and it still dont allow me to chmod +x a file
[01:40] <kukstud07> <darwinwj ok so you are not sharing from linux to them? I would totally be doing that instead but its your call. I am not sure about reading windows shares.
[01:41] <kukstud07> <darwinwj On my servers we use samba to share files and not the other way around.
[01:41] <cor> BiggBoss, you mean adm ?
[01:41] <BiggBoss> i used sudo adduser user admin
[01:41] <cor> oh no, it's admin right enough
[01:41] <BiggBoss> to give rights to an user
[01:42] <JohnnyNewbie> Hey all - my best friend setup my new Linux home server and I'm playing around (CAREFULLY - lol) with it now, one thing I know I want to do is setup screen share so I can remote in from other computers - any words of wisdom?
[01:42] <BiggBoss> but i cant use chmod +x over a file still
[01:42] <darwinwj> So, easier to share to windows from linux, than from windows to linux.... if that makes sense
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !samba |  darwinwj
[01:42] <cor> you are doing "sudo <command>" right?
[01:42] <BiggBoss> oh
[01:42] <BiggBoss> no
[01:42] <kukstud07> <darwinwj yes that is the truth and personally I think its more secure.
[01:42] <cor> darwinwj, it's easy both ways
[01:43] <BiggBoss> omg, thx cor :)
[01:43] <BiggBoss> its my first day using ubuntu
[01:43] <cor> np
[01:43] <cor> Good luck!
[01:43] <Icavatten> sebsebseb: Samba and gadmin-samba dood'
[01:43] <sebsebseb> icewaterman: what?
[01:43] <edbian> BiggBoss: Doesn't it rock??
[01:43] <BiggBoss> ubuntu?
[01:44] <edbian> BiggBoss: Linux in general
[01:44] <kukstud07> <darwinwj: I am a windows networking tech but I have loved my linux.
[01:44] <darwinwj> thanks all, I think i'll upgrade, then work on knowing samba etc
[01:44] <cor> yeah, kukstud07, gotta make sure those britney videos are safe from crackers!
[01:44] <BiggBoss> well, i use all day to install needed software, so i couldnt test it enough
[01:44] <kukstud07> <darwinwj: Google is seriously your best friend!
[01:44] <netsurf3> mmm ;)
[01:44] <kukstud07> Next to IRC that is
[01:45] <darwinwj> Night all
[01:45] <cor> lol
[01:45] <BiggBoss> but i started to use ubuntu cause i heard so many good about it
[01:45] <netsurf3> i started to use linux after fedora kept continuously crashing on me ;)
[01:45] <edbian> netsurf3: fedora = linux ??
[01:46] <netsurf3> yeah
[01:46] <lwizardl> edbian, fedora = redhat linux
[01:46] <netsurf3> i used fedora 10 i think it was when it came out
[01:46] <edbian> netsurf3: You switched to linux because linux kept crashing on you?
[01:46] <netsurf3> did full disk encryption
[01:46] <netsurf3> then one day i booted and it corrupted my entire lvm
[01:46] <edbian> o god
[01:46] <NahuJ> blet.
[01:46] <lwizardl> how can i find out what version of xfree86 is running?
[01:46] <boss_mc> edbian: sounds about right :-)
[01:46] <Icavatten> netsurf3: I have some boxes running fedora, none has ever crashed. Do you have a fujitsu computer or is your hd broken ?
[01:47] <edbian> lwizardl: man xfree86 might help :)
[01:47] <netsurf3> nope everything was A-okay at the time still is now
[01:47] <netsurf3> i lost my temper with pulseaudio though
[01:47] <lwizardl> edbian, i just ran the check.sh from ati and it said i'm not running xfree86 so something is wrong
[01:47] <netsurf3> it was horrific when it was first introduced
[01:47] <netsurf3> still far from it now although i love the paapplet
[01:48] <edbian> lwizardl: I don't know what xfree86 is.  I assumed it was a package.  Is it a module or something?  What does check.sh check for?
[01:48] <lwizardl> edbian, check.sh determines what version of the linux ati driver is needed
[01:48] <Icavatten> netsurf3: #windows :P
[01:48] <lwizardl> i'm trying to get my video capture working on my aiw card
[01:49] <edbian> lwizardl: AFAIK there are only 2 options.  Closed source fglrx and open source radeon.  Are there more?
[01:49] <queso> I just built a new computer and put Ubuntu on it. My old computer is a Mac PowerBook G4 with OS X 10.3.9. What would be the easiest way to connect these computers together so I could transfer files to my new computer?
[01:49] <cor> queso samba
[01:49] <lwizardl> edbian, well the ati drivers no longer use fglrx it has a new file aticonfig
[01:50] <cor> queso, over ethernet/cat-5
[01:50] <queso> cor, can I do that wirelessly if both are connected to the same wireless router?
[01:50] <cor> or that, sure
[01:50] <queso> cor, are both methods just as easy?
[01:50] <BiggBoss> .bin files can be executed with sudo? im reading a guide which says me to execute sudo jdk6.bin
[01:50] <cor> it's relative
[01:50] <cor> wired is generally easier, and more secure
[01:50] <edbian> lwizardl:What module do they use now?  What is xfree86 ??
[01:50] <bruenig> BiggBoss: install jdk from the repos dude
[01:50] <BiggBoss> i alredy did
[01:50] <BiggBoss> but cant get jdk
[01:51] <BiggBoss> i always get jse
[01:51] <bruenig> BiggBoss: what are you talking about
[01:51] <boss_mc> !java | BiggBoss
[01:51] <lwizardl> edbian, i'm guessing its a type of X.Org
[01:51] <cor> BiggBoss, yes, anything can, if it's (+x) executable
[01:51] <BiggBoss> i follow that documentation
[01:51] <BiggBoss> and couldnt get jdk
[01:51] <edbian> lwizardl: You think xfree86 replaces Xorg ???
[01:52] <bruenig> BiggBoss: guaranteed that you are doing something wrong
[01:52] <cor> isn't it in with the restricted drivers package or something? Mine just goes in itself
[01:52] <BiggBoss> this what i used sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[01:52] <lwizardl> edbian, yeah becuase they have 2 options XFREE86 or X.Org
[01:52] <cor> in truth, I'm new to the whole package thing, so feel free to ignore that
[01:52] <boss_mc> BiggBoss: sorry, that's not very useful..., you want openjdk-6-jdk/sun-java6-jdk
[01:52] <BiggBoss> its that wrong?
[01:52] <jadeed> hi
[01:52] <BiggBoss> ok, ill try
[01:52] <boss_mc> BiggBoss: sounds right to me
[01:52] <Mike_lifeguard> If I'm using tar to backup my whole system, how can I update the tarball later? Will the -u option also delete files from the archive, or does that only affect adding/changing files?
[01:53] <cor> Mike man tar
[01:53] <edbian> lwizardl: I'm googling it right now.  You're right BTW xfree86 and xorg do the same thing (implentation of the X window system)
[01:53] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: using tar to backup your whole system is silly if you want to incrementally update it
[01:53] <jadeed> is there a way to backup all software packages downloaded from internet
[01:53] <Mike_lifeguard> cor: I wouldn't be asking if the answer was in the man page 9.9
[01:53] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: use rsync
[01:54] <Mike_lifeguard> bruenig: I didn't know rsync was for archiving
[01:54] <bruenig> it can be
[01:54] <BiggBoss> i just used sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk, then used java -version and i have Java SE
[01:54] <guille> 	
[01:55] <guille> anyone know a decoder file *. atc to mp3
[01:55] <edbian> lwizardl: Looks like xorg is a fork of xfree86 (this happened btw before 2004)
[01:55] <bruenig> happened well before then
[01:55] <kukstud07> Anyone know if I can install iftop on my tomato router?
[01:55] <BiggBoss> so it still dont work :/
[01:55] <CptnAwesome> is updating my ati drivers as simple as installing the FGLX (or is it fglrx) package?
[01:56] <jadeed>  is there a way to backup all software packages downloaded from internet
[01:56] <thneed> Hi,
[01:56] <bastidrazor> !clone > jadeed
[01:56] <BOBKA> how can I wake up a sleeping (S+) process? I pressed something, and my vi went into the sleeping state
[01:56] <edbian> lwizardl: It looks like all of the distros use xorg now for licensing reasons.  I don't think you're running xfree86.  Ubuntu uses xorg
[01:57] <BiggBoss> is java-6-sun-1.6.0.10 = jdk?
[01:57] <edbian> lwizardl: Unless you installed it yourself.
[01:57] <boss_mc> BOBKA: fg
[01:57] <bastidrazor> jadeed, actually that isn't what you want.. !aptoncd may be though
[01:57] <lwizardl> edbian, nope then i would need the x.org version
[01:57] <BOBKA> boss_mc: should I specify the pid to the process?
[01:57] <boss_mc> BOBKA: jobs gives you a list of processes
[01:57] <boss_mc> BOBKA: then fg <job id> ForeGrounds it
[01:57] <Jeroth> Question: I have a directory full of double extension files like: file1.rrd.xml file2.rrd.xml - How do I rename all the files to just remove the .rrd and leave the .xml?
[01:57] <edbian> lwizardl: Do you need any more help from me? :)
[01:58] <BOBKA> boss_mc: jobs doesn't give me anything ... it is the ps xaw that gives me the state of vi
[01:58] <lwizardl> this is what i get from a lspci -nm | grep VGA
[01:58] <thneed> I recently sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and I lost all gui after login screen, I tried to reconfigure xorg.conf from shell but I am having trouble, right now I am on another computer and I am hoping to get a gui back with some help, I think it may be a GNOME problem not sure...
[01:58] <lwizardl> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] [1002:5961] (rev 01)
[01:58] <PMantis> Dunno is it's init or upstart, but drbd is starting before networking is starting, and fails. How can I adjust this?
[01:58] <edbian> lwizardl: I have a radeon 9550.  I'm using the open source "radeon" driver and it runs great!  I have also used fglrx with similar results
[01:59] <edbian> thneed: Did you try "startx" after logging in?
[01:59] <lwizardl> edbian, ok does your also do video capture? because this card does atleast on windows
[01:59] <bastidrazor> thneed, from the shell, after the gui crashes, look in ~/.xsession-errors for possible hints as to why
[01:59] <ctmjr> thneed: what video card do you have and where did you get the drivers from?
[01:59] <edbian> lwizardl: It is not a capture card.
[01:59] <lwizardl> edbian, ok mine is
[02:00] <edbian> lwizardl: Good luck with it! :)
[02:00] <Jeroth> Question: I have a directory full of double extension files like: file1.rrd.xml file2.rrd.xml - How do I rename all the files to just remove the .rrd and leave the .xml?
[02:00] <lwizardl> thanks
[02:00] <thneed> I cannot load failsafe GNOME nor can I get to the Desktop after login
[02:00] <thneed> I always have to drop to a shell
[02:00] <ctmjr> thneed: what video card do you have and where did you get the drivers from?
[02:01] <Jeroth> Can anyone help?
[02:01] <coz_> Jeroth,  what is the problem?
[02:01] <Jeroth> I have a directory full of double extension files like: file1.rrd.xml file2.rrd.xml - How do I rename all the files to just remove the .rrd and leave the .xml?
[02:02] <coz_> Jeroth,  where are these located?
[02:02] <dfeuer> What in Ubuntu is responsible for the toolbars & menus (the ones at the top and bottom of the screen)?
[02:02] <Jeroth> In a folder on my drive.
[02:02] <Jeroth> They are files I created.
[02:02] <Jeroth> Im trying to rename them over SSH.
[02:02] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: Gnome
[02:02] <Jeroth> But there are a few hundred
[02:03] <coz_> Jeroth,  oh you need a batch rename?
[02:03] <Jeroth> yeah
[02:03] <Jeroth> please :)
[02:03] <coz_> Jeroth,  this might help :)  http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[02:03] <dfeuer> sebsebseb, do you know what process?  And whether it's possible to restart when it's crashed?  Because I can use apps, and switch between them with alt-tab, but the toolbars are dead.
[02:03] <thneed> nvidia geforce 7600 I sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 as recommended after upgrade by synaptic
[02:03] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: no
[02:04] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: well
[02:04] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: it's for resetting panels to default, but
[02:04] <thneed> ctmjr: I have a nvidiia geforce 7600 and I installed nvidia-glx-180 via synaptic
[02:04] <Bartman_> hi guys, is there any advice you can give me to improve flash performance? running 9.04, IBM T42p P-1.7m
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !panels >  dfeuer
[02:04] <Bartman_> sites with flash take up 100% cpu
[02:04] <coz_> Jeroth,   if that is confusion  in the terminal type     man  rename
[02:05] <coz_>  Jeroth  although man pages are more a pain  than helpful in my opinion
[02:05] <dfeuer> sebsebseb, I don't want to reset them to defaults.
[02:05] <dfeuer> Just unfreeze them.
[02:05] <Icavatten> Bartman_: the T500's are a bit faster :)
[02:05] <PMantis> In 9.04, how can I be sure the script is not started until networking starts?
[02:05] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: ok I don't know then
[02:05] <Bartman_> :P
[02:05] <dfeuer> P'raps if I just kill grome-panel then.
[02:05] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: you can do xkill in a terminal and  close programs that freeze that way
[02:05] <DIL> !desktop
[02:06] <Jeroth> Thanks coz, ive been reading that Im just trying to figure out how to do the double extension....
[02:06] <dfeuer> Wow, killing gnome-panel worked.
[02:06] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: with xkill?
[02:06] <Bartman_> does flash just use a lot of cpu time in linux?
[02:06] <cor> man pages must be viewed in a web browser, or else they are annoying
[02:06] <thneed> ctmjr: ?
[02:06] <dfeuer> Knowing what process has frozen makes it much easier to fix stuff.
[02:06] <ctmjr> thneed: was this before or after the upgrade or both? what i am getting at is the driver gets compiled in the kernel so a new kernel breaks it
[02:06] <cor> aptitude install man2html
[02:06] <coz_> Jeroth,  still searching for a better how to hold on
[02:06] <billywayne> Jeroth: how mnay files are you renaming?
[02:06] <dfeuer> No, sebsebseb, plain old kill.
[02:06] <Jeroth> a few hundred
[02:06] <thneed> ctmjr: I did it after upgrade because that is when it was recommneded
[02:06] <dfeuer> sebsebseb, I just did what the bot suggested, but left out the resetting to defaults part.
[02:06] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: ah ok
[02:07] <sebsebseb> dfeuer: yes that's why  I got it to send that, because I thought you may have been able to make use of it
[02:07] <cor> batch renamne? just make a quick for balh in blah do rename, no?
[02:07] <cor> man rename
[02:08] <coz_> Jeroth,  there is also a few applications in synaptic  I am installing one name gprename right now
[02:08] <ctmjr> thneed: ok run this in a terminal on the broken machine  sudo  nvidia-xconfig  and see if it helps
[02:08] <cor> the rename command takes perl regular expression. hello!
[02:09] <DIL> i have seen something similar the desktop was not installed  | thneed
[02:09] <thneed> ctmjr: there is no disk space to wrtie that
[02:09] <coz_> Jeroth,   the application gprename has a gui  if you are interested
[02:09] <BiggBoss> is this jdk? java-6-sun-1.6.0.10
[02:09] <rajesh> hi
[02:09] <Jeroth> alright thanks ill check it out
[02:11] <ctmjr> thneed: am sorry i am not sure what you mean by that
[02:11] <Guest76345> while i am updating my system i am getting an error E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. can any one help me out.
[02:11] <tehboriz> how do i disable wlan0 interface? i'm currently using wlan1 and 0 is broken etc
[02:11] <bobbyyu> Hey guys. I want to ask how much time is needed to make an operating system from the bottom-up.
[02:12] <billywayne> Jeroth:  here's a good article on how to do a bash for loop: http://freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch03sec06.html
[02:12] <thneed> ctmjr: okay it worked
[02:12] <Guest76345> bobbyyu: iwconfig wlan0 down
[02:12] <thneed> ctmjr: I need to insert driver line though...do i opt for glc?
[02:12] <thneed> er glx
[02:13] <Guest76345>  while i am updating my system i am getting an error E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. can any one help me out.
[02:13] <cor> bobbyyu. about 25 years
[02:13] <lwizardl> ok looks like I'll just install xp and then dual boot so i can do video captures when i need to still
[02:13] <ctmjr> thneed: glx is not a driver you need to put nvidia as the driver
[02:13] <tehboriz> Guest76345: iwconfig: unknown command "down"
[02:13] <cor> and even then it's full of bugs
[02:13] <BellinXFelon> how do i edit what programs open during startup?
[02:13] <coz_> lwizardl,  what have you tried so far on linux?
[02:13] <bobbyyu> What about Ubuntu?
[02:13] <Guest76345> plz wait
[02:14] <coz_> BellinXFelon,   system/preferences/startup applications
[02:14] <tehboriz> ubottu: hi
[02:15] <Jeroth> I got it coz thanks everyone. I used: for f in *.xml; do base=`basename $f .rrd.xml`; mv $f $base.xml; done
[02:15] <thneed> ctmjr: I put under "Input Device" and then "Driver" : nvidia?
[02:16] <thneed> ctmjr: because under device and driver it says nvidia already
[02:17] <Guest76345>  while i am updating my system i am getting an error E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. can any one help me out.
[02:17] <BellinXFelon> in rhythmbox music player, when i insert a cd nothing happens, it requires me to import the cd as a folder in order for it to show up, how can i change that?
[02:18] <ripps> *sigh* right after they finally get the previous kernel running nice, a new comes in and the kernel oops's return
[02:18] <ctmjr> thneed: that is what it should say, have you tried to reboot it yet? the command i gave you should have configured your xrog file sorry was not to informative
[02:18] <pauljw> ripps: so run the old kernel
[02:19] <ohmygawd> hi all, im trying to install wireless drivers on my laptop
[02:20] <ohmygawd> keep getting an error
[02:20] <lwizardl> coz_, followed a ubuntuforums guide and i don't seem to be able to bring in any video
[02:20] <thneed> ctmjr: now it says displaygtk-config not installed cannot configuer xorg without
[02:20] <thneed> I will try to dl it
[02:20] <ohmygawd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740080 following those instructions and it keeps telling me that the package "ndiswrapper-utils-1.9" cant be found
[02:20] <coz_> lwizardl,  do you have the link to that guide?
[02:21] <lwizardl> sec let me see if its still in the history
[02:21] <edbian> ohmygawd: To get ndiswrapper just run: "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[02:21] <ohmygawd> thanks, i'll try it now
[02:22] <lwizardl> coz_, nope only one is this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[02:22] <coz_> lwizardl,  oh an ati card
[02:23] <lwizardl> yeah
[02:23] <edbian> leet!!
[02:23] <coz_> lwizardl,   what are you trying to do again?
[02:23] <ctmjr> thneed: thats a new one on me let me look and see if i can find out something
[02:23] <ohmygawd> edbian: do i then need to carry on with those instructions or go from after where he says to reboot?
[02:23] <lwizardl> coz_, my ATI Radeon 9200 on windows can do video capture, I would like to do the same on Linux
[02:23]  * ohmygawd is a newcomer to linux!
[02:23] <edbian> ohmygawd: Lemme read the instructions then I'll let you know.
[02:24] <coz_> lwizardl,  and which application are you using on linux to do this with?
[02:24] <ohmygawd> thanks
[02:24] <lwizardl> coz_, on windows the ati control panel has the programs, and so far i have nothing but vlc on linux
[02:25] <coz_> lwizardl,  are you trying to capture television stuff ?
[02:25] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm going totally crazy trying to figure out how to get, in this very specific instance, as an end goal, World of Warcraft to run in Ubuntu. I'm stuck for the past hour on the first problem, trying to get hardware 3D support enabled in Ubuntu. *sigh*
[02:25] <edbian> ohmygawd: ndiswrapper has improved since this how-to was made.  If you look in System -> Admin (I think) You'll see "Windows Wireless Drivers".  Ignore this tutorial and go there.
[02:25] <thneed> ctmjr: sorry, displayconfig-gtk
[02:25] <lwizardl> coz_, video game consoles, and VHS
[02:25] <thneed> ctmjr: that is the full name of the package, not int he repos though...
[02:25] <coz_> lwizardl,   not usre then I believe it may be realted to zoran modules  but let me check
[02:26] <edbian> ohmygawd: Do you have the windows drivers for your card?  What card are you using anyway?
[02:26] <bazhang> edbian, in which version of ubuntu?
[02:26] <Guest76345> bobbyyu:http://wirelessdefence.org/Contents/LinuxWirelessCommands.htm
[02:26] <agent_smith666> if install a package through synaptic how do i find out where it installed to?
[02:26] <edbian> bazhang: Sorry?
[02:26] <ohmygawd> edbian: its the card that came with the laptop, a Dell Inspiron 1525
[02:26] <Chaotic_Descent> I started here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft which lead to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft/Troubleshooting
[02:26] <bazhang> "Windows Wireless Drivers" edbian
[02:26] <edbian> bazhang: Any of them once you have the ndisgtk package installed?
[02:26] <Chaotic_Descent> which lead to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ and http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:26] <edbian> bazhang: It isn't in any of them by default.
[02:27] <bazhang> edbian, ah thanks for the clarification
[02:27] <Chaotic_Descent> I stupidly clicked on the 2nd link first, and it looked easier since it was an automated thing. It failed. so now I'm trying the first one.
[02:27] <Guest76345>  while i am updating my system i am getting an error E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. can any one help me out.
[02:27] <edbian> ohmygawd: Do you have the ndiswrapper gtk open??
[02:27] <edbian> bazhang: NP! :)
[02:27] <coz_> lwizardl,  not sure  I am searching google with this string     ubuntu 9.04 radeon 9200 video capture  you could change that a bit to get different results  but so far nothing of signifigance
[02:27] <Guest76345> i am unable to update my system
[02:28] <xFlux> ati in linux is like french fries with mustard
[02:28] <lwizardl> coz_, yeah i tried that also nothing grabbed my attention tho
[02:28] <gareim> hey, is there any way to put passwords on files?
[02:28] <coz_> lwizardl,  mm you might try   #linux channel for a better overview instead of ubuntu specific solutions
[02:28] <edbian> Guest76345: The adobe-flash package is not part of the main system.  Try removing it completely and then upgrading!
[02:29] <lwizardl> xFlux, yeah which is sad since AMD makes the best proccessors IMO but now that they also have ATI seems they would get a clue
[02:29] <Chaotic_Descent> I got an ATI card I'm trying to get working in Linux too... but I was hoping it would perform better than in Windows.
[02:29] <ohmygawd> edbian: not at present, how do i do that? sorry!
[02:29] <edbian> ohmygawd: System -> Admin -> Windows Wireless Drivers
[02:29] <ohmygawd> edbian: yes thats open
[02:30] <Mike_lifeguard> bruenig: If I use rsync for backing up, won't that just duplicate the filesystem somewhere (uncompressed, not an archive, just a copy)?
[02:30] <edbian> ohmygawd: (That is the ndisgtk package)
[02:30] <ohmygawd> edbian: edbian: but its asking me for the inf file
[02:30] <edbian> ohmygawd: Do you have your windows drivers?  The .inf and the .sys?
[02:30] <xFlux> im assuming you have the drivers downloaded and installed for ATI?
[02:30] <Chaotic_Descent> can someone tell me why I can't get anywhere with this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:30] <edbian> ohmygawd: Yeah you need it :)
[02:30] <Chaotic_Descent> the 2nd command fails.
[02:30] <ohmygawd> edbian: im trying to locate them now, thanks :)
[02:30] <ohmygawd> edbian: i think i can figure it out from here
[02:30] <edbian> ohmygawd: Ok!  Good luck!
[02:30] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: true, but if you want to incrementally sync it back up, your compression will take a massive amount of time
[02:31] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: What ati card are you using??
[02:31] <Chaotic_Descent> Maybe it has something to do with the instructions for Ubuntu 8 and 9 being identical save for a typo.
[02:31] <Mike_lifeguard> bruenig: true, but disk space is my concern, not time
[02:31] <Mike_lifeguard> (or cpu)
[02:31] <gareim> how do you put a password on a file?
[02:31] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: Radeon 9600
[02:31] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: well then just retar everytime
[02:31] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: there is no incremental way to tar, I mean maybe if you had absolutely no file modifications
[02:31] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: You have two options for the driver.  1 - fglrx (closed source)  2 - "radeon" (open source)  Which would you like to use?
[02:32] <bruenig> tar doesn't read what is in a file
[02:32] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: the one that works. preferably the one that's easiest to get working.
[02:32] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: :)  Lets try "radeon" first
[02:32] <ctmjr> thneed: something must have broke in your upgrade as that is the screen resolution gui it is suppose to be installed by default
[02:33] <Chaotic_Descent> when I run: sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko  I get insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 File exists
[02:33] <thneed> yeah, i am running an update on broken packages right now...we will see
[02:34] <tehboriz> can anything useful be done with an old almost burned out IDE 40gb hard drive?
[02:34] <Mike_lifeguard> bruenig: if you rsync -> tar(+compress?) would rsync still be able to work its incremental magic to update stuff?
[02:34] <ohmygawd> edbian: cant locate my drivers... are there any good internet resources for these drivers?
[02:34] <edbian> ohmygawd: The site of the vendor of your card
[02:35] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: if you rsynced you would still have to tar up the whole of the rsync dir
[02:35] <bruenig> so it wouldn't be any different
[02:35] <digitalslave> what tools are available to set up 2 disks as raid 1 (just a data volume) after ubuntu has already been installed on a 3rd disc?
[02:35] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: I'm looking up the command to tell what modules you're currently using
[02:35] <LeChacal> hello all, this may be a little off topic but what does anyone think about plugging and unplugging a SATA drive from an Ubuntu machine while it is running, it is a data drive not the OS drive and before unplugging I would unmount, the drive has an NTFS file system?
[02:35] <Mike_lifeguard> bruenig: sorry, I meant that you'd uncompress/untar it before trying rsync to update things
[02:36] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Run: lspci -k  and look for your card
[02:36] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: so you untar it, sync it, then tar up the whole of the now uncompressed and sync mirror dir?
[02:36] <bruenig> synced*
[02:36] <digitalslave> LeChacal, no problems with that
[02:36] <nerr> LeChacal, I do it all the time on my Ubuntu Server install.
[02:36] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: invalid option --k
[02:36] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: just one - :)
[02:36] <Mike_lifeguard> bruenig: yeah
[02:36] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: "lspci -k"
[02:36] <Chaotic_Descent> I used one -
[02:37] <bruenig> Mike_lifeguard: that is the same thing as tarring up the actual dir, actually worse
[02:37] <Chaotic_Descent> it says "invalid option -- k"
[02:37] <Mike_lifeguard> \o/
[02:37] <Mike_lifeguard> then I won't do it :D
[02:37] <bruenig> what compression are you using with tar?
[02:37] <bruenig> gzip?
[02:37] <LeChacal> digitalslave & nerr: ok thank, i didnt think it was that big a deal, i was more worried because it was an NTFS file system.
[02:38] <nerr> definitely should not be a problem so long as you cleanly mount and unmount the drive.
[02:38] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: I copy/pasted to begin with. there's no 'k' option.
[02:38] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: ???  "sudo lspci -k"  ?
[02:38] <digitalslave> LeChacal, just dont be writing to it while you do it :)
[02:38] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: correct.
[02:39] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Very odd. I just ran it 3 or 4 times on my system.  Anyway.  Try "lsmod | grep radeon"
[02:39] <digitalslave> im used to the lvm stuff with redhat... is there no way to mirror a couple data discs once ubuntu is already installed on an indepedant disc?
[02:39] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]
[02:39] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: I just tried lsmod by itself.
[02:39] <LeChacal> digitalslave: i just unplugged and i am still here so, i am just a worry wort
[02:39] <vaio> need to spice up ubuntu
[02:39] <panz3rghe1st> I was wondering if anyone could help me install xserver-xgl
[02:39] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: What driver are you currently using?
[02:40] <digitalslave> i should say im looking for software raid 1 :)
[02:40] <panz3rghe1st> me?
[02:40] <panz3rghe1st> anybody?
[02:40] <ColbyIsColby> Hold on a sec panz.
[02:40] <panz3rghe1st> k
[02:40] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: uh... I don't know. I tried to use Envy, and it didn't work. I tried to enable the hardware restricted driver thing. I don't even know if they're related or in conflict or what.
[02:41] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: You installed envy??
[02:41] <jefinc> !xserver-xgl
[02:41] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: yes.
[02:41] <panz3rghe1st> does anybody?
[02:42] <jefinc> !patience
[02:42] <ColbyIsColby> Sorry panz, I thought I would have a clue, but I don't. Sorry again.
[02:42] <panz3rghe1st> no worries
[02:42] <ColbyIsColby> I really would help, but I don't know how.. :D
[02:42] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: you have to understand, I have no idea what's going on here. the stuff I'm reading online doesn't offer a context for what it's suggesting. I'm just following instructions, hoping that my "common sense" will be able to detect whether they're even relevant to my problem and current.
[02:42] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: I'm afraid you're waaay above my head then.  Apparently envy is a total nightmare.  I met a guy on here once that had to re-install just to get rid of it.  I' m sorry but I don't think I can help you anymore.  My only suggestion is to try and PURGE envy.
[02:43] <Jeruvy> !raid | digitalslave
[02:43] <JohnnyNewbie> Hey all, for this screen share thing, I've been reading about tightVNC versus this vinagre, any thoughts on the two?
[02:43] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Envy just stomps around the place (refusing to ever leave) and shoving modules in and out (somewhat randomly) ignoring the user's modprobes and such.
[02:43] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: I hate computers so very, very much.
[02:44] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: To remove it first run: "sudo apt-get purge envy"  Then run "locate envy" and see if there are any files left (there will be)
[02:44] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Sorry about this!  Unfortunately you're in a dark spot in the linux world :(
[02:44] <digitalslave> yeah but i want to setup the raid AFTER installation and the main OS will not be on the raid volume
[02:45] <Chaotic_Descent> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:45] <digitalslave> gparted does not seem to have these options
[02:45] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Also, can you run "man lspci" to prove to my and you that there is no -k option!  I feel like i'm going crazy cause I'm sitting at my debian system looking at it :)
[02:45] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: it didn't remove anything from that first command, probably because the package was called something else like envy[something] . it found: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/envy24_control.desktop
[02:46] <ohmygawd> edbian: this is all i can find on the broadcom site,http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[02:46] <ohmygawd> that doesnt seem to be what im after
[02:46] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: I'm not in debian. I'm in Ubuntu.
[02:46] <edbian> ohmygawd: I'm sorry I don't know where to find your drivers! :(
[02:46] <ohmygawd> edbian: thanks anyway, just checking they werent the ones i was after :/
[02:46] <ctmjr> panz3rghe1st: is there a special need for xgl you can download the tar file and compile it
[02:47] <panz3rghe1st> well okay, my main problem is trying to find it xserver-xgl on synaptic. ive read multiple threads and they all say that xserver is in the universe repository but it isnt but my computer just cant find it. is there a reason why i cant see it even though it is there?
[02:47] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: I know :).  Is that the only thing that "locate envy" returned?
[02:47] <panz3rghe1st> i c
[02:47] <panz3rghe1st> thanx
[02:47] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: yes.
[02:47] <jacko7723> are there any minimal iso install images for 9.04?  something like the debian net-install images that are 150MB or so?
[02:47] <ctmjr> panz3rghe1st: it is no longer in the repos
[02:48] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: I have to go now :(  It appears that envy is not installed.  You can search synaptic if you'd like.  I recommend purging that file that locate found.  Good luck with the rest of your project!
[02:48] <panz3rghe1st> ctmjr: im trying to set up a multiple monitor profile in compiz that requires xserver-xgl
[02:48] <DasEi> !minimal | jacko7723,  yes
[02:48] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Ask people "how can I use the radeon driver" or "how can I use the fglrx dirver"
[02:48] <jacko7723> dasei: thanks!
[02:48] <bazhang> jacko7723, only 9MB
[02:48] <ctmjr> edbian: lspci -k is a valid command in ubuntu
[02:49] <jacko7723> not sure why i couldnt find it
[02:49] <Chaotic_Descent> I already screwed up my Ubuntu by trying to get video playback to work, and iPods to connect, and Windows partitions from things like iPods and thumb drives. now my iPod and thumb drives work on my MOM'S install of Ubuntu but not mine. I should just wipe it and start over. :P
[02:49] <IWHBYD> I'm trying to install dctc on a server and aptitude seems determined that I should install all of X11 and gnome for this application
[02:49] <jacko7723> thats badass, very small
[02:49] <IWHBYD> what am I doing wrong?
[02:50] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: You can wipe if you want.  It is very difficult however to get a linux install to a point where you HAVE to wipe. :)
[02:50] <Chaotic_Descent> edbian: thanks for trying.
[02:50] <Sadro> Woo!
[02:50] <Sadro> I feel so free!
[02:50] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: I'm just sorry I ran out of time!
[02:50] <DasEi>  jacko7723: you can do everything with that , from a minimalistic headless to a full install
[02:50] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Again good luck!  If it means anything what you're tyring to do is not hard at all.  You were looking at a very old how-to :)
[02:50] <Pelo> IWHBYD, are you installing dctc or dcgui ?
[02:51] <Sadro> Pelo: I like your name.
[02:51] <Chaotic_Descent> ... uhg.
[02:51] <IWHBYD> I'm trying to install dctc, which is pulling in dcgui
[02:51] <bazhang> !ot | Sadro
[02:51] <Pelo> Sadro, hispanophones usualy do
[02:51] <n2diy> my test box is doing funny things. I have two users setup on the box, Curly has good screen resolution but Larrys is afu. Would copying Curly's xorg.conf, and overwriting Larry's with it, fix this?
[02:51] <Chaotic_Descent> https://help.ubuntu.com is not up-to-date?? How the hell am I supposed to know where to find up-to-date help with Ubuntu?
[02:51] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Basically install the right package and then "modprobe radeon" or "modprobe fglrx" and a reboot :)
[02:52] <thneed> okat, i recently updated and fixed all of my broken packages, but I cannot login to a gui even at the login screen after I reboot I get stuck with a shell that gives an erro r"unable to open pidfile '/var/run/kload/kmsgpipe.pid' for writing (Read only filesystem)rameters"
[02:52] <thneed> I really need help, I am totally lost
[02:52] <IWHBYD> Pelo: I'm trying to install dctc, which is pulling in dcgui
[02:52] <Sadro> ubottu: You're so helpful! But, that was a tech statement It could of helped anyone.
[02:52] <DIL> that guy mo
[02:52] <Pelo> IWHBYD, looking in synaptic at the dep for dctc and dcgui is listed in the dependencies but only as a recommendation , which release of ubuntu ar you using
[02:52] <edbian> Chaotic_Descent: Most of it is a good resource.  It's hard to keep that much info up to date though.
[02:52] <bazhang> Sadro, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <IWHBYD> Pelo: ubuntu server 8.04
[02:53] <gwenwafer> Greetings...I installed Ubuntu inside Windows today....I think I'm on the road to becoming a Penguinista!
[02:53] <Sadro> bazhang: DAMN! Alright. Fuck.
[02:53] <thneed> got no gui, can't write files
[02:53] <thneed> stuck in read-only mode and could use help...
[02:53] <gwenwafer> and now my phone is ringing and gotta sign off....be back soon as TallGrrl! :)
[02:54] <n2diy> ! Penquinista
[02:54] <Pelo> IWHBYD, try downloading the package from this page and install it using dpkg , it might not try to add the dcgui one
[02:54] <IWHBYD> Pelo: is there any way to disable the selection of reccomended packages?
[02:54] <ctmjr> panz3rghe1st: the only thing i found was a tar file for intrepid you might have better luck in #compiz
[02:55] <Pelo> IWHBYD, not sure,  have a look at man dpkg , I'll do the same on my end and maybe we'll find something
[02:55] <panz3rghe1st> ctmjr: thank you
[02:55] <sere> anyone use dvdauthor....im trying to basicly us it to other a mpg to dvd without any menus but not sure how to do this
[02:56] <Pelo> sere, you might have an easier time with devede,  there is an checkbox for no menu somewhere
[02:56] <ohmygawd> edbian: apparently the driver for my wireless card (Dell) is included in 8.10, where would it be located?
[02:57] <sere> Pelo: i prefer the command line...and wanting to set up a script
[02:57] <sere> Pelo: do i have to use an .xml file?
[02:57] <Pelo> sere, no clue I've never done it in cli
[02:58] <CptnAwesome> hi folks, i was trying to fix a flickering screen by updating my ATI drivers.  I install the packages from Synaptic and now when i reboot the machine i get a black screen with some pixelated blocks and a black and white pattern at the bottom.
[02:58] <sere> oh ok
[02:58] <IWHBYD> Pelo: I found it
[02:58] <DasEi> CptnAwesome: which card ?
[02:58] <sere> !dvdauthor
[02:58] <dewman> CptnAwesome, 9.04?
[02:58] <CptnAwesome> 200m, and yes, 9.04
[02:58] <Pelo> IWHBYD, do tell
[02:58] <IWHBYD> Pelo: aptitude -R or --without-recommends
[02:59] <IWHBYD> I just tried "man aptitude | grep recom" and found it
[02:59] <Chaotic_Descent> I wish there were dates stamped on webpages that gave advice on how to do things. why help.ubuntu.com doesn't, I don't know.
[02:59] <Pelo> IWHBYD, I dled the package from the link I gave you and used dpkg to install and it didn't ask permission for dcgui so we both had a sulution
[02:59] <manneequin> Anyone is watching current tv ?
[02:59] <DasEi> CptnAwesome: jaunty's xorg doesn't do ati's propitary well, use radeonhd instead; for an easy removal can use envyng -t from rootprompt
[02:59] <pianistbaby> i plugged my camera into the usb cable but i don't get a pop-up screen (as what used to happen). Please help!
[03:00]  * Pelo thanks IWHBYD for teaching him something new
[03:00] <IWHBYD> Pelo: you're welcome, just doing my part
[03:00] <CptnAwesome> DasEi, I cant login to the machine now, grub doesnt give me an option to login to theCLI
[03:00] <Pelo> manneequin, current tv ? is that a package or are you asking if anyone is currently watching tv ?
[03:01] <Pelo> CptnAwesome, no menu or don'T know which one ?
[03:01] <dewman> I'm watching packets.
[03:01] <CptnAwesome> Pelo, i dont get a menu
[03:01] <kingnerd> Hey guys, im using Ubuntu Server 9.04, passwd'd my only account on here to something I cant remember.  I'm still in SSH as it, but unfortunately, I can't use sudo or passwd.  I never set up a root account.  Short of formatting, what can I do?
[03:01] <Pelo> CptnAwesome, hit the esc key right after the BIOS stuff
[03:02] <CptnAwesome> Pelo, ok, i'll give it a whirl.
[03:02] <th0r> kingnerd: you can reboot into single user mode (recovery mode) and should be able to reset the password from there
[03:02] <Pelo> CptnAwesome, or we can go in the config file and make the menu visible all the time if you want
[03:02] <kingnerd> th0r: Sure... do I just go to runlevel 3 from GRUB?
[03:03] <kingnerd> I have one other user, he's not in the sudoers file though, just a default adduser user
[03:03] <Chaotic_Descent> my version of Ubuntu is 8.04. Is everything above that not stable enough? I'm just wondering why it hasn't updated.
[03:03] <th0r> kingnerd: nope...runlevel 1 might work...but rebooting into recovery mode is best...boot off the llivecd
[03:03] <thneed> I am a ghost in a shell
[03:03] <thneed> trapped
[03:03] <yan> hi. i'm trying to create a new partition table on an external hard drive using partitionmanager in kubuntu (kde 4.2). when i do so, i always get an error message about an LibParted Input/output error. the disk is only recognized as /dev/sdb but there is no sdb1 oder sdb2. can anybody help me with that?
[03:03] <CptnAwesome> Pelo, which option do i choose, ive got the main on, the recovery mode and the memtest.
[03:03] <kingnerd> Don't have the live cd... Argh... Any way to init it?
[03:03] <CptnAwesome> im guessing the recovery mode
[03:04] <Pelo> Chaotic_Descent, 8.04 is the LTS' you probably have the update manager set to only update to the next LTS , you'll need to change the setting
[03:04] <th0r> kingnerd: you might try init 1, but no guarantees
[03:04] <thneed> okat, i recently updated and fixed all of my broken packages, but I cannot login to a gui even at the login screen after I reboot I get stuck with a shell that gives an erro r"unable to open pidfile '/var/run/kload/kmsgpipe.pid' for writing (Read only filesystem)rameters"
[03:04] <jariep1_> hi there
[03:05] <kingnerd> okay, ill give it a shot
[03:05] <jariep1_> anyone know anything about amaya web browser editor
[03:05] <jariep1_> ?
[03:05] <Pelo> CptnAwesome, for the cli you'll want the recovery mode,  you'll get another menu further on select the one to drop you in to root mode or some such , you'll figure it out
[03:05] <CptnAwesome> Pelo, im there now
[03:05]  * Pelo cheers CptnAwesome  on 
[03:05] <kingnerd> aw hell... telinit requires root
[03:05] <Chaotic_Descent> Pelo: but is that LTS limitation desirable or not?
[03:05] <kingnerd> Forgot about that little issue
[03:05] <Chaotic_Descent> I don't even know what LTS is.
[03:06] <th0r> Chaotic_Descent: LTS is long term support....canonical promises to keep the repos updated for at least three years
[03:07] <Pelo> Chaotic_Descent, depends on your use,  , LTS is long term support,  meaning that you'll get package update for several years ( 3 I think ) but you won'T upgrade prog versions,   businesses prefer that since it is less trouble , upgrading from release to release may be a shore if you have several computers do deal with
[03:07] <Pelo> Chaotic_Descent, with the regular release you get the newest , shyniest apps as every six months
[03:09] <Mims> Hi everyone - any samba ninjas about? Trying to get samba to authenticate using kerberos via PAM and the FAQs I can find searching for "samba pam" or "samba kerberos" are for how to work with Active Directory or to set up pam_smbpass. Running Jaunty.
[03:09] <Pelo> MindVirus,  there is a #samba channel
[03:10] <Pelo> sorry , Mims , there is a #samba channel
[03:10] <Mims> Pelo: Thanks, I'll hop in there.
[03:10] <cyborg>  i have eeepc 901 with a 160 gig external disk. using eeebubtu opsystem
[03:10] <Chaotic_Descent> Do I have to update to 8.10 before I go to 9.whatever?
[03:10] <cyborg>  now  i have a new pc with ubuntu 9.04
[03:10] <cyborg>  and i wanna copy the data (160 gig movies .flv .avi etc.) and other files
[03:10] <cyborg>  thats it
[03:10] <cyborg>  if i use gksu nautilus i can chande the permission . but too slow. 2000 file have
[03:10] <cyborg>  allright?
[03:10] <FloodBot1> cyborg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <Pelo> th0r, use /notice nick message to talk to me in pm , not /msg
[03:11] <th0r> Pelo: sorry...just used the xchat right click
[03:11] <thiebaude> Chaotic_Descent: unless you have the live cd
[03:11] <Chaotic_Descent> thiebaude: ok, thanks.
[03:11] <lstarnes> Pelo: in IRC, /msg is the preferred method, not /notice
[03:11] <thiebaude> np
[03:11] <Pelo> cyborg, you'll have to upgrade from one release to the next
[03:12] <cyborg> 9.04 have
[03:12] <Pelo> lstarnes, /msg spawns extra windows,  /notice is jsut a private msg in the current window of the dest.  less anoying
[03:12] <yan> anybody on my question about creating a partition table?
[03:12] <th0r> I just did it as a courtesy so as to not point out an error to the whole world....didn't mean to start anything
[03:13] <cyborg> yan repeate pls
[03:13] <Chaotic_Descent> ....... upgrading Ubuntu is 1GB. uhg. maybe not.
[03:13] <psywiped> this is true untill you zoom in
[03:13] <Pelo> th0r, what was the error yo9u were pointing out ? I didn'T get the pm , I block them
[03:13] <yan> Pelo: i'm trying to create a new partition table on an external hard drive using partitionmanager in kubuntu (kde 4.2). when i do so, i always get an error message about an LibParted Input/output error. the disk is only recognized as /dev/sdb but there is no sdb1 oder sdb2. can anybody help me with that?
[03:14] <psywiped> fabric patterns mess with the curant sensor tech
[03:14] <jariep1_> w3/join #web
[03:14] <Chaotic_Descent> and that's just from 8.04 to 8.10. I wonder how much the one from 8.10 to 9.04 is... :(
[03:14] <DasEi1> yan: formerly lvm on that ? create a new msdos-table, reload gparted, try again
[03:14] <uninverted> Is there any way to disable those pointless single character underlines in menus?
[03:15] <Pelo> yan, the letter parts identify the physical disk ,  the numbers the partitions on it , so you'll need to create the partitons, is the kde  partiton manager graphical ?
[03:15] <psywiped> uninverted there not pointless
[03:15] <psywiped> if you type that char you get that choice
[03:15] <uninverted> psywiped: Not for me
[03:15] <cyborg> yan http://gparted.sourceforge.net
[03:16] <yan> DasEi: i'm using lvm on my notebook from which i'm trying to create the partition table. the external drive has been used with windows before
[03:16] <pARAd0X1985> hi
[03:16] <pARAd0X1985> how to read from /dev/midi devices?
[03:16] <cyborg> yan    ohhh win
[03:16] <uninverted> para: Go through a library
[03:16] <yan> Pelo: yes, graphical, but i think it's not gparted since i'm using kde
[03:16]  * psywiped will
[03:17] <solacedagony> I have a question having to do with booting Windows XP after installing grub
[03:17] <solacedagony> If someone can possibly help me
[03:17] <psywiped> no
[03:17] <cyborg> gparted is allright yan
[03:17] <psywiped> thats a pain in the ass
[03:17] <psywiped> install xp then linux
[03:17] <pARAd0X1985> how to read from /dev/midi devices?
[03:17] <solacedagony> I did
[03:17] <yan> cyborg: i'm trying to delete everything on it and create a new table
[03:17] <Pelo> yan, ok you see the /dev/sdb drive in that manager ? ok then try right clickcing on it and select  add partiton from the menu,   and follow the instrucitons
[03:17] <pARAd0X1985> how to read from "/dev/midi" devices in a C program ?
[03:18] <cyborg> solacedagony    and?
[03:18] <BellinXFelon> can anyone help me with a rhythmbox music player issue
[03:18] <Pelo> pARAd0X1985, is this a programing quesiton ? you miight do better asking in #c
[03:18] <DasEi1> yan: gparted is for kde, too
[03:18] <yan> Pelo: that's what i did. when i then perform the operation i just get an error message
[03:18] <Pelo> BellinXFelon, just state the issue and hope someone knows the answer
[03:18] <solacedagony> Now when I choose the windows xp option, some text pops up real quickly and then reboots
[03:19] <yan> DasEi: i'll try gparted..
[03:19] <kingnerdmobile> Okay, once again, Ubuntu Server, 9.04, passwd'd to something I forgot.  Can't enter the GRUB menu, escape doesn't work
[03:19] <pARAd0X1985> Pelo, #c is for c problems not for ubuntu ones, and not for linux either
[03:19] <kingnerdmobile> Next step?
[03:19] <pARAd0X1985> Pelo, linux input better be asked here !
[03:19] <BellinXFelon> in rhtyhmbox music player, when i insert a cd, nothing happens, it makes me import the cd as a folder as if i was importing a folder, how can i change it so that it recognizes the cds when i put them in
[03:19] <gartral> my dvd-rom is reporting all disks i put in it are of 0kb in size, this is all disk types, ive tryed restarting, nothing wants too burn.. any thoughts?
[03:20] <Pelo> solacedagony, can you read the error msg you get ?
[03:20] <solacedagony> pelo: no, it reboots almost instantly
[03:20] <PhotoJim> gartral: laser failed perhaps?  if you're reading DVDs, try reading CDs.  if CDs, try DVDs.  if one type works and the other doesn't, it's almost certainly a laser failure as there are two.
[03:20] <Pelo> gardar, using  brasero to burn ? I have the same error , uninstall brasero and install nautilus cd burner , use that
[03:20] <solacedagony> pelo: I'll see if I can try again tho
[03:20] <DJNomad> hey all I have a friend on yahoo that I am guiding him to install xubuntu and I need guidance lol
[03:21] <Pelo> solacedagony, I think I know wath the issue is , join me in #pelo , there is too much traffic in here and I can'T concentrate
[03:21] <gartral> PhotoJim: ... i said ALL disks, and its BOTH drives on the system, this is an OS issue
[03:21] <yan> Pelo, DasEi1, cyborg: gparted doesnt seem to find the external hdd
[03:21] <PhotoJim> gartral: your reply doesn't really encourage me to help further... no need to be snarky.
[03:22] <Chaotic_Descent> Can someone help me with installing radeon drivers? I'm on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[03:22] <Pelo> yan,  I can't help you anymore that's as much as I know
[03:22]  * Pelo afk
[03:22] <DasEi1> yan: sure choosed right device (taskbar of that gui )?
[03:22] <yan> ok, thanks anyway Pelo
[03:22] <yan> DasEi1: it doesnt appear there
[03:23] <DJNomad> can anyone tell me how to install xubuntu over vista and saving a lil room for vista
[03:23] <Polo|WEG> : Lol  HEY ALL
[03:23] <gartral> PhotoJim: im sorry, you right, im just.. very irritated that i cant burn cds or dvds, and its time for a backup...
[03:23] <DJNomad> he has 89 gig free
[03:23] <Chaotic_Descent> why do I get: Reinstallation of libgl1-mesa-glx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[03:23] <yan> DasEi1: Input/output error while reading from /dev/sdb
[03:23] <yan> DasEi1: (on startup of gparted)
[03:24] <PhotoJim> gartral: no problem, irritation and computers go hand in hand.  it's not like Linux to not see optical drives though.  you could open a terminal and browse through your dmesg output to make sure they are recognized I suppose.
[03:24] <pARAd0X1985> Pelo
[03:24] <DasEi1> yan: so found at least .., open a terminal
[03:24] <Pelo> pARAd0X1985, what ?
[03:25] <DJNomad> whats a program for windows that he can mount his ubuntu image in that is free?
[03:25] <artillerytx_> what do you download to get the correct video card
[03:25] <yan> DasEi1: ok
[03:25] <DasEi1> yan: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:25] <cyborg> yan   the external disk cable is  originali with the disk cable?
[03:26] <gartral> PhotoJim: well, im watching a dvd now, it just belives all burnable disks are finalised.. showing a freespace of 0kb
[03:26] <Chaotic_Descent> What do I do? "make sure your xorg.conf does not contain any "fglrx" entry." I checked, and it does. What do I do?
[03:26] <yan> cyborg: i think so, yes
[03:26] <PhotoJim> gartral: ok.  so it's just burning that's the issue.  your media works fine in these drives using a different OS?
[03:26] <yan> cyborg: is it possibly a problem with the cable?
[03:26] <yan> DasEi1: done
[03:26] <DasEi1> yan: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[03:26] <cyborg> yan   synaptic---gparted     good luck
[03:27] <DasEi1> yan: url ?
[03:27] <safruhani> hi using 8.10,i want to kill a process called phy0 automatically, what do you suggest?
[03:27] <Chaotic_Descent> this page doesn't mention anything about xorg.conf, so I don't know how to fix it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[03:27] <yan> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/f5a69eb78
[03:28] <yan> DasEi1: german ;)
[03:28] <yan> DasEi1: there's no sdb..
[03:29] <DasEi1> yan: strange, yeah, is it usb ?
[03:29] <yan> DasEi1: yes
[03:29] <DasEi1> yan: lsusb | pastebinit
[03:30] <yan> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/f72386ba7
[03:30] <DasEi1> yan: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[03:30] <safruhani> i always ~#pkill phy0 , how can i do it autormatically ?
[03:31] <CptnAwesome> Pelo, thanks for your help, im back using the dektop now =)
[03:31] <yan> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/f475332d7
[03:31] <nsahoo> hi
[03:31] <brodymcd> I'm having trouble managing my partitions - can someone please help me?
[03:32] <nsahoo> /proc/cpuinfo says one speed and dmesg says another, which one is right?
[03:32]  * Pelo sighs a sigh of releaf ,  he's useless with cli stuff
[03:32] <cyborg> yan   yes    once i suck with cable (the original was work)
[03:32] <Chaotic_Descent> I hate computers so, so much.
[03:33] <Pelo> Chaotic_Descent, what's your issue again ?
[03:33] <yan> hm, Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).  >>> READ CAPACITY(16) failed
[03:33] <gartral> PhotoJim: cant really tell, this system only has ubuntu
[03:34] <kingnerdmobile> Can I use an XUbuntu live cd to recover the Ubuntu Server password?  Both are 9.04
[03:34] <kingnerdmobile> I have no Server live CD and grub fails to go into menu
[03:34] <Chaotic_Descent> Pelo: (besides computers in general?) trying to install Radeon drivers. sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri  gets me "Reinstallation of libgl1-mesa-glx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[03:34] <DasEi1> yan: seems like a few hundred lines read error from that device, first quest : does your machine support the size of the usb-drive ? second : is there a win-pc araound you can use ?
[03:34] <yan> DasEi1: one thing i forgot: the hdd is supposed to be 1tb but the partitionmanager tells me it has 2tb
[03:34] <PhotoJim> gartral: we need to rule out a hardware problem.  I guess one thing you could try that's easy is to find/borrow/buy a different batch of discs, preferably made by a different manufacturer (note that the label company is seldom the manufacturer).
[03:34] <darthanubis> kingnerdmobile: any livecd will do
[03:34] <oshua86> I just got a HP EliteBook 8530p and I cant get the audio to  work for nothing, ive looked everywhere, I was hoping some of  you could help me a bit
[03:34] <gartral> kingnerdmobile: you dont need any cd, you need too boot into the recovery console
[03:34] <nsahoo> can someone tell me which one is correct?
[03:35] <gartral> PhotoJim: i have done that already, this most deffinately is a problem in software...
[03:35] <exodus_ms> Running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit, do I need "libchipcard" noticed a process in htop eating alot my cpu "chipcardd4" found a launchpad thread on this being fixed in karmic, what can I do in the meantime, is it safe to remove it?
[03:35] <Pelo> Chaotic_Descent, the repos is probably down for some reason ,  try going into menu > system > admin> software sources and change the server you use , then reload and try again
[03:35] <PhotoJim> gartral: how can you be sure if you haven't tried burning on this machine with a different OS?  You said you only had Linux installed.
[03:35] <yan> DasEi1: how do i know if my machine does? is that a hardware question? it's a new thinkpad t400. i am checking the disk because on a friend's computer (win) it didnt show up anymore
[03:35] <safruhani> for kill a process every startup, what is the right way? (a script to put on /etc/init.d/ or anything else ?
[03:36] <DasEi1>  kingnerdmobile:yes, you can either alter menu.lst for a longer grub delay or chroot into your system
[03:36] <artillerytx_> how do you install the correct graphic drivers for ubuntu ?
[03:36] <gartral> PhotoJim: also, the draves were made by different manufactuers, and i doubt very highly that the same issue would arise from both at the same time, given the veriety of disks i have access too
[03:36] <Chaotic_Descent> Pelo: thanks. I'm trying that now.
[03:36] <PhotoJim> gartral: unlikely, but not impossible.  but I've never seen Ubuntu unable to burn a disc when it could read one, unless the drive was faulty or the media was bad.
[03:36] <nsahoo> why does it automatically slow down my cpu?
[03:36] <HFSPLUS> Mac os x is better than ubuntu
[03:37] <kingnerdmobile> DasEi1, my problem isn't the delay, grub isn't taking any keystrokes
[03:37] <gartral> PhotoJim: i mean im not sure about the diference that would make, but the drive is full, and i cant even reliably boot knoppix or backtrack...
[03:37] <DasEi1> yan : the size-support is a hardwarequestion, if that's not the matter , the drive is either dead or corrupt, so easiest would be to check in win (else testdisk or ntfsprogs) or overwrite whole disk ( long term on 1 TB)
[03:38] <PhotoJim> gartral: well, if the hard disk is full that could cause issues actually burning, but wouldn't prevent the burning software from seeing that a disk is burnable.
[03:38] <Robbie_Crash> How do I prevent errror messages from streaming to console on Ubuntu server? I'm trying to figure out what's causing all my disk errors, but every 15 seconds I get a stream of error messages that clears my screen.
[03:38] <yan> DasEi1: hm, ok. i thought i could do the overwrite from linuy, too
[03:38] <cyborg> yan   synaptic---gparted     good luck
[03:38] <HFSPLUS> Mac os x is better than ubuntu
[03:38] <DasEi1> yan : but gparted lists the drive ad you don't need data from it ?
[03:38] <gartral> PhotoJim: brasario said "cannot burn media with selected plugins"... thats the main error when i try and force  a burn
[03:38] <pelmen> HFSPLUS: it's not going to work, no holly warriors here....
[03:38] <Chaotic_Descent> I get so frustrated with computers, especially Ubuntu. USB headset doesn't work? spend a few hours trying to figure out what command-line or file setting you need to change! every problem is like that. iPod not connecting, USB thumb drive not loading, USB headset, 3D graphics acceleration, etc, etc, etc.
[03:39] <Pelo> Robbie_Crash, try asking in ##linux
[03:39] <HFSPLUS> HFS+ is also better than EXT3
[03:39] <HFSPLUS> and ext4
[03:39] <th0r> and HFSPLUS is a troll
[03:39] <Robbie_Crash> Pelo thanks
[03:39] <HFSPLUS> If i was a troll i would be living under a bridge
[03:39]  * Pelo gives HFSPLUS  a cookie
[03:39] <gartral> !troll | HFSPLUS
[03:39] <yan> DasEi1: gparted doesnt but the kde partionmanager does. i dont need the data, no
[03:40] <HFSPLUS> well i am not a troll since i dont live under a bridge
[03:40] <egc> If  I was a troll, I'd beat you with a club
[03:40] <DasEi1> yan: one sec, booting in kde
[03:40] <PhotoJim> gartral: hmm, plugin issue.  not sure what that would be.  but separate issue from not recognizing discs.
[03:40] <gartral> !ot | HFSPLUS
[03:40] <safruhani> hi,i want to prevent a process called phy0 starting, or kill it automatically, what can i do? (on 8.10)
[03:41] <gartral> PhotoJim: its the same error, with the same result, with all media types on both drives...
[03:41] <egc> HFSPLUS, no love for zfs?
[03:41] <Pelo> safruhani, do you know what that process is ? what it does ?
[03:41] <HFSPLUS> ZFS is cool too
[03:41] <apoleo12> how do i find out what filesystem I have on??
[03:41]  * Pelo just totaly failed to win 20 000 000 $
[03:41] <egc> yeah!
[03:41] <bazhang> HFSPLUS, take chat elsewhere please
[03:41] <safruhani> Pelo: related with wireless, i don't use it
[03:42] <HFSPLUS> sure
[03:42] <DasEi1> yan : which app? parted ?
[03:42] <egc> aww
[03:42] <Pelo> apol, if you don'T know its, probably ext3,  but  menu > system > admin > system monitor,  last tab
[03:42] <egc> u chased him off
[03:42]  * egc wonders what he did
[03:42] <bazhang> egc, please remain on topic
[03:42] <egc> hehe, agreed
[03:43] <hemightbetodd> I recently removed XFCE from my xubuntu installation and installed (successfully) Netbook Remix.  It worked for a week, and now boots without loading gnome-panel, and all applications open with no title bar and cannot be maximised, resized, or moved.  Maximus seems to still be operational.  What do I need to do to resture Netbook Remix to regular operation?
[03:43] <yan> DasEi1: i think its this one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/partitionman/
[03:43] <Pelo> safruhani, if you know the prog that starts the process you can try uninstalling it from synaptic
[03:43] <apoleo12> Pelo: ah its 3... is it anybetter or worst?
[03:43] <yan> i call it via "partitionmanager" from terminal
[03:44] <PhotoJim> gartral: well, that's definitely a software issue.  did you google to see if other people have had similar issues with brassero plugins?  maybe there's a package that isn't installed that was missed.  btw what sort of burn are you doing... data to DVD?  music?  etc.
[03:44] <safruhani> ok thanks PhotoJim
[03:44] <Pelo> hemightbetodd, are you using compiz ?
[03:44] <safruhani> thanks Pelo
[03:44] <kingnerdmobile> Okay, so I can just boot the live cd and paste a blank hash over mine in the shadow file... Correct?
[03:45] <DasEi1> yan: found it; if you open it, click sdb, can you set a new partiton table ? (Ctrl+Shift+N) ?
[03:45] <yan> DasEi1: yes. then i click on apply and i get the error
[03:45] <Pelo> ok , I'm out,  g'night folks
[03:45] <MrPiracy> my sources.list is giving me several errors when realoading. can anyone have a look and tell me what is wrong with it? http://pastebin.org/4100
[03:46] <yan> DasEi1: this is the hdd: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=563&language=en
[03:46] <bitplane> hi, is there some docs on how to get software into Ubuntu's package manager? I'm thinking of writing a small app that would be useful
[03:46] <DasEi1> yan: looks more and more like a faulty drive, so first let's check that the lap supports one tb, what was the model again ?
[03:47] <hemightbetodd> Pelo, I don't believe compiz is running by default when Netbook Remix loads, however I can fire it up from a terminal and it restores the missing titlebars until it is terminated.
[03:47] <yan> DasEi1: a new thinkpad t400
[03:47] <bazhang> MrPiracy, try commenting out the problematic ones (# in front of them) and try again
[03:47] <apoleo12> hmm, i recalled selecting ext4 and somehow I ended up ext3...how is this possible?
[03:48] <FrozenFire[work]> Is there a way to create a portable install of Ubuntu, that doesn't require any modifications to the partition table of a drive. The most preferable form would be in a bootable file container, similar to Wubi.
[03:48] <bazhang> FrozenFire[work], a usb stick?
[03:49] <cor> if you want to change the hardware MAC address of a bluetooth device (technically a BD address), grab the source fro "bdaddr", which does exactly this
[03:49] <FrozenFire[work]> bazhang, it would be on a USB hard disk.
[03:49] <hdon> hi all. i have "nVidia Corporation MCP73 High Definition Audio" with s/pdif output on my motherboard. is there any way i can verify that there are working drivers for this before i start looking to mate the header pins on my motherboard to coax?
[03:49] <nsahoo> hi
[03:49] <cor> the change is permenent, at least on any particular setup, when you re-plug it, the new mac is still there.
[03:50] <cor> my mate's dongle was effin huge!
[03:50] <cor> fnar fnar!
[03:50] <MrPiracy> bazhang: but they have some apps i want to install
[03:50] <bazhang> cor, please keep it family friendly
[03:50] <cor> http://www.siddharthabbineni.com/tech/hardware/change-bluetooth-device-mac-address.html
[03:50] <MrPiracy> bazhang: that's the 10000th time i install ubuntu this week and this is the 1st time i get errors with these servers :(
[03:51] <bazhang> MrPiracy, then try again later
[03:51] <nsahoo> I am overclocking my cpu, but, the cpu scaling feature won't let me run at the full capacity. dmesg detects the cpus to be 3Gz processor (after overclocking), but, the cpus run at most at 2400 even at the highest load
[03:51] <MrPiracy> bazhang: now is later already. i tried them 2 days ago
[03:51] <cor> is this repository servers?
[03:51] <yan> DasEi1: any ore ideas
[03:51] <oshua86> I cant get the audio to work, can anyone give me a hand plz?
[03:51] <MrPiracy> bazhang: i thought there was a problem with my internet connection, but here i am, aren't i?
[03:52] <bazhang> MrPiracy, there are some 3rd party repos in there; so many likely are the issue
[03:52] <cor> probably after 100000 updates of the exact same file, they banned your ip block
[03:52] <Jared555> is there a way to automatically add KDE menu items to the Applications menu?
[03:52] <MrPiracy> bazhang: if i ping them, i get a reply. how come the updater says there's no route to it?
[03:53] <cor> MrPiracy, is your gateway setup correctly?
[03:53] <bazhang> MrPiracy, not sure, as they are 3rd party
[03:53] <MrPiracy> cor: it's set to my router
[03:53] <MrPiracy> cor, bazhang: ok, let me try to use default settings for the eth0
[03:53] <DasEi1> yan: I haven't found a particular info on the specs, but think the lap should do it (internal 250 >> chip capable); strange is that if just faulty, fdisk -l should find it;; do a : mount  | pastebinit
[03:55] <yan> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/f3b79159
[03:55] <volve> hey all, anyone use tee much? for some reason whenever I use it with a couple Perl scripts, it seems to "buffer" the output and never actually gives me output as stdout is getting it... :/
[03:56] <MrPiracy> cor, bazhang: not working
[03:56] <cor> what's the actual error you are getting, and exactly what server are we referring to?
[03:57] <ubuntu_giant> Hello.  Has anyone had success with DVDStyler?  When I try to get the project onto a disk (or as an ISO), the output keeps saying something like:
[03:57] <ubuntu_giant> unused byte should be null but is 228!!
[03:57] <ubuntu_giant> unused byte should be null but is 186!!
[03:57] <ubuntu_giant> Multiple frames in a packet from stream 1
[03:57] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_giant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <unop> volve, why would you want to use tee in a perl script? it's not as if perl is lacking in writing to two filehandles simulatenously?
[03:57] <gartral> PhotoJim: mostly isos that ive prepped of my drive, but i havnt seen a need too try anything, as k3b and brasareo claims the disks just are not burn
[03:57] <ubuntu_giant> Once the video is rendered and I play the video, I get a few seconds of the video, then it stops but the audio continues.  Then eventually the audio stops.
[03:58] <volve> unop: because tee already exists, and it does what I need... ?
[03:58] <ubuntu_giant> Maybe I'm using the wrong codec? :(
[03:58] <PhotoJim> gartral: you could try burning using wodim at the command prompt.  that would help you rule out hardware.  it's reasonably easy to burn a .iso image from the shell.
[03:59] <DasEi1> yan : sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdb | pastebinit && sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdb
[03:59] <arquebus_> the icon for my wireless connection at home says Im connected, but I cant connect to anything with firefox. Anyone know what is wrong?
[04:00] <DasEi1> yan : sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdb | pastebinit
[04:01] <unop> volve, well, sure, but its very unusual use of a mixture of perl and external utilities. anyway, how do you use tee here exactly?  in open() ?
[04:01] <yan> DasEi1: 1) HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument  2) re-reading partition table  BLKRRPART failed: Input/output error
[04:02] <volve> unop: just from the command-line, so: perl foo.pl | tee bar.log
[04:02] <unop> volve, is $| set in your perl script?
[04:03] <volve> omg $|, I totally forgot about crazy Perl vars, thanks!
[04:03] <Bookman> I am trying to download a torrent and I currently have Transmission running, but when I select the torrent, KTorrent comes up as default.  I try to select other, but I'm left with a file browser and I have no idea where to find Transmission in my file system.
[04:04] <DasEi1> yan : sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdb
[04:04] <unop> volve, well, i wouldn't call it crazy - pretty much every language defaults to buffered output.
[04:04] <unop> s/defaults to/defaults to using/
[04:04] <dsmith_> when I run chown I get a permission denied, what would cause this?
[04:04] <DasEi1> yan : sudo hdparm  /dev/sdb | pastebinit
[04:04] <dsmith_> sud chown dsmith:dsmith -rv /files
[04:04] <volve> unop: in any case, I totally forgot, thanks :)
[04:04] <rambo298> dsmith_: use sudo
[04:04] <dsmith_> I did
[04:04] <dsmith_> that was a typo
[04:05] <yan> DasEi1: same
[04:05] <rambo298> dsmith_: what are you trying to change ownership to
[04:05] <rambo298> of
[04:05] <dsmith_> it shows as vmware:vmware now
[04:05] <dsmith_> dsmith:dsmith
[04:05] <yan> DasEi1: sorry, http://pastebin.com/f4fbcb4c8
[04:06] <dsmith_> i even created a vmware user and group and tried changing it under su -l vmware
[04:06] <dsmith_> to no avail
[04:07] <TiM> hi guys...
[04:07] <TiM> i'm having a trouble with firefox, it is crashing and have no sound
[04:08] <DasEi1> yan: there are some more possibilities to check, but the further we trap in there, the more likely is the chance to break something, so I'd firstly check - gparted live cd > new parti-table and/or same in windows, second warranty on that drive, third hdparm -k or-K and more options, then things like testdisk / ntfsprogs ;; third group envolves danger..
[04:08] <yan> ok DasEi1, thank you very much for your help!
[04:09] <rambo298> dsmith_: i don't have any trouble changing a directory from my group:user to root:root
[04:09] <DasEi1> yan: you may read man hdparm an decide yourself trying k option
[04:09] <rambo298> dsmith_: this works fine for me, but i didn't specify recursive => sudo chown root:root -v lfs
[04:10] <dsmith_> whats lfs?
[04:10] <CptnAwesome> sorry folks, but i've forgotten the name of the ATI drivers i should try, was it "radeonhd"  ??
[04:10] <rambo298> it's a directory
[04:10] <yan> DasEi1: i think option is more likely to be chosen ;)
[04:10] <dsmith_> ok
[04:10] <yan> DasEi1: *option 2
[04:11] <dsmith_> oh nvm linux file system, gotcha
[04:11] <ubuntu_giant> Anyone had success with DVDStyler?
[04:11] <bazhang> CptnAwesome, radeon
[04:11] <DasEi1> yan : the info can still be read from disk and if it spins at strtup, better try to safe/not give a cause for loosing warranty
[04:11] <CptnAwesome> bazhang, i can just apt-get that?
[04:12] <TiM> anyone can help me?
[04:12] <giiker> easy question on MBR,say my box dual boots, Ubuntu and  XP. If I reinstall XP without touching the Ubuntu  partitions, will the MBR be reinstalled?
[04:12] <yan> DasEi1: ok
[04:12] <rambo298> aren't ati drivers restricted
[04:12] <giiker> I know XP does it, but just wondering and making sure about it!
[04:13] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver CptnAwesome
[04:13] <DasEi1> giiker: no, xp will overwrite mbr, see:
[04:13] <DasEi1> !grub
[04:13] <ubuntu_giant> TiM: What appears to be the problem?
[04:13] <CptnAwesome> thanks =)
[04:13] <gartral> giiker: yes, the MBR will then hold the windows bootloader, and you will temporarily loose the ability too boot ubuntu
[04:13] <TiM> ubuntu_giant:  no sound on firefox and crashing
[04:13] <giiker> gartral: I knew it, just wanted to make sure about it! thanks!
[04:14] <TiM> ubuntu_giant: and opera without flash
[04:14] <giiker> this is the best support/help one could get anywhere!
[04:14] <ubuntu_giant> TiM: No sound in Firefox in what way?
[04:14] <TiM> ubuntu_giant:  youtube
[04:15] <ubuntu_giant> Ah.
[04:15] <chrislabeard> any of yall know how to host more than 1 domain off of ubuntu ?
[04:15] <ubuntu_giant> TiM: Did you install Flash from the Adobe site or through the repostiory?
[04:15] <ubuntu_giant> *repository*
[04:16] <TiM> ubuntu_giant:  i installed from adobe's site
[04:16] <ubuntu_giant> Maybe you could try re-installing it from apt-get.
[04:16] <DasEi1> yan : one last think comes to my mind: some hds can be paked by a special command, though my experience is they show up in fdik, that may also be a reason (drive lock)
[04:16] <DasEi1> parked*
[04:17] <imgoofygoober> everyone lick your keyboards now or ubuntu will crash!!!!!!!!!!
[04:17] <ubuntu_giant> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer.
[04:17] <ubuntu_giant> imgoofygoober: Nope, no trolls here. :)
[04:17] <gartral> should we call the ops on imgoofygoober ?
[04:17] <sh4> @Chaotic, you can put a "#" character in front of that line.
[04:17] <TiM> ubuntu_giant: let's try it
[04:17] <yan> DasEi1: hm, i dont think thats the case
[04:18] <ubuntu_giant> Anyone know about DVDStyler, or a channel where I can get DVDStyler-specific help?
[04:18] <eladmeidar> hi guys, how can i tell how much RAM a process is taking ?
[04:18] <ubuntu_giant> eladmeidar: The command "free"
[04:18]  * eladmeidar fires up man
[04:18] <eladmeidar> ubuntu_giant: thanx
[04:18] <bazhang> ubuntu_giant, that is a windows app?
[04:18] <imgoofygoober> haha everyones ubuntu is crashing
[04:18] <marcelo> hola a todos
[04:18] <alex__> elameidar: I believe your actually wanting top, not free
[04:19] <bazhang> imgoofygoober, take chat elsewhere please
[04:19] <eladmeidar> alex__: actually yeah
[04:19] <eladmeidar> alex__: so thank you too than.
[04:19] <eladmeidar> :)
[04:19] <alex__> eladmeidar: Your welcome
[04:19] <DasEi1> yan: so steps2, check warranty and weight further options (I never broke a drive by hdparm-k, but chipsets vary and hdparm has some stuff can be found afterwards at manufacturer, though most notchecked deeply)
[04:19] <ubuntu_giant> bazhang: For memory usage?  Try CTRL+ALT+DELETE and you'll get to a system monitor.
[04:19] <jamescarr_> hey
[04:19] <jamescarr_> my internal speaker came on
[04:19] <jamescarr_> how can I turn it off?
[04:19] <bazhang> ubuntu_giant, no, dvdstyler
[04:19] <yan> DasEi1: ok, thanks for your help
[04:19] <alex__> ubuntu_giant: The default command for ctrl+alt+delete is shut down computer
[04:20] <ubuntu_giant> No, dvdstyler is for Linux.
[04:20] <bazhang> ubuntu_giant, in the repos?
[04:20] <DasEi1> yan: sorry for no effort, np
[04:20] <ubuntu_giant> bazhang: Yup.
[04:20] <bazhang> !info dvdstyler
[04:20] <jamescarr_> how can I turn it off?
[04:20] <bazhang> ubuntu_giant, never used it, devede has most of what I need
[04:21] <jamescarr_> my internal speaker came on, how can I turn it off!?
[04:21] <Cyrano_De> Anyone know how to turn on the keyboard window management features in Xfce 4.6 in Ubuntu 9.04?
[04:21] <alex__> jamescarr_: Um... what noise is it making?
[04:21] <bazhang> jamescarr_, please be patient, dont repeat so quickly
[04:21] <ubuntu_giant> bazhang: I'll try devede, then...for now.
[04:21] <ubuntu_giant> !info devede
[04:21] <Cyrano_De> My 8.10 laptop with Xfce4.4 has a full range of options for going mouseless.
[04:21] <ohmygawd> hi all, im new to linux (made the transition from a mac)... is there a way of scanning all the networks in the area or automatically joining any unsecured networks, like AirPort does on a Mac?
[04:21] <ohmygawd> preferably GUI
[04:21] <jamescarr_> alex__, loud piercing beeps when doing autocomplete
[04:21] <jamescarr_> on the console
[04:21] <jamescarr_> it's annoying!!!
[04:21] <imgoofygoober> install gentoo
[04:22] <Cyrano_De> I am starting to get some rsi symptoms while using the mouse a lot.
[04:22] <alex__> jamescarr_: Hm... Not sure, sorry. I don't ever plug in my internal speaker unless I'm having boot troubles. lol
[04:22] <bazhang> imgoofygoober, stay on topic
[04:22] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr:  rmmod pcspkr
[04:22] <cast> can one resize ntfs in the ubuntu installer?
[04:22] <lampliter> I know DVDs are an FAQ but, I've been through all the instructions and I still get """Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file."""
[04:23] <jamescarr_> Cyrano_De, THANK YOU so much!!!
[04:23] <alex__> cast: You should be able to. Your meaning create a new partition from an NTFS correct?
[04:23] <lampliter> Cyrano_De: I don't know if you're interested but naturally speaking is working under wine so you can use speech recognition to generate text just as I'm doing now
[04:23] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr_: That will turn it off immediatly.  To keep it off add pcspkr to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file
[04:23] <CptnAwesome> the link posted earlier about ATI cards, doesnt seem to mention anywhere where the driver is actually installed? or is it simply about setting it up manually in the conf files?
[04:24] <auk> lampliter: cool!
[04:24] <cast> alex__: i'm meaning shrink an ntfs partition to make enough space for an ubuntu partition
[04:24] <Cyrano_De> lampliter: speach is not really an option for most of my work.  I am in a tight not very sound proof cubicle farm.
[04:24] <TiM> ubuntu_giant:  noting happend
[04:25] <ubuntu_giant> TiM: Sorry, then, I don't know.  Try restarting.
[04:25] <ubuntu_giant> :(
[04:25] <Cyrano_De> lampliter: I am also on conference calls for at least 8 hours every week.  Voice commands are useless then.
[04:25] <ohmygawd> is there a GUI way of scanning all wireless networks in the area?
[04:25] <alex__> cast: Yeah, that is the same thing as creating a new partition from an NTFS volume. You should back up your important files before doing it just in case of problems though.
[04:25] <TiM> ubuntu_giant:  tks a lot
[04:25] <KittyBoots> OMG I am having a panic attack!  I have an external hard drive that I was copying information from but all of the sudden the drive is nolonger recognized!
[04:25] <TiM> anyone else can help about no sound on firefox and it crashing
[04:25] <auk> if i'm going to install firefox-3.5, should i apt-get remove firefox-3.0 and *-gnome-support and *-branding first?
[04:26] <KittyBoots> how can I recover my hard drive?
[04:26] <alex__> KittyBoots: Have you unplugged it and plugged it back in? And if so, have you tried it on another computer?
[04:26] <auk> (firefox 3.5 from the jaunty universe repo)
[04:26] <alex__> KittyBoots: Also, you can click on "Places" and see if there is a hard drive there matching the size of the one your looking for.
[04:26] <cast> cool cool
[04:27] <lampliter> Cyrano_De: As it's currently implemented, yes, speech recognition is useless on a conference call. I've worked on a couple of prototypes for small office situations in which one could continue to use speech recognition while interacting with a customer. It's all about audio control.
[04:27] <alex__> KittyBoots: Right underneath "Computer"
[04:28] <Cyrano_De> I may just revert back to 8.10 all over the place.  9.04 has locked up a lot on both my new laptop and my i7 desktop.
[04:29] <auk> KittyBoots: if it's not showing up, try unplugging it and plugging it back in
[04:29] <KittyBoots> alex_: I am freaking out! My hard drive has important work on it!  The drive is not recognized at all on this machine anymore, I have used it many times, I do not have any other computers with me to test.  It is a western digital usb 2.5
[04:29] <KittyBoots> I unplugged and plugged it back in
[04:29] <alex__> KittyBoots: And you have checked to see if it's just not mounted?
[04:30] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: even sudo fdisk -l doesn't find it ?
[04:30] <KittyBoots> I will try to see if it shows up
[04:30] <auk> Cyrano_De: i have had teh same issues the whole way through with jaunty. very irritating
[04:30] <lampliter> Cyrano_De: Okay, not meaning to be a pain in the butt but, you need to think about this. If you can use speech recognition now because you work in an environment which is hostile to its use, what are you going to do when your RSI gets worse. My hands were damaged by RSI 15 years ago.
[04:30] <lampliter> I've since learned that you can stop the events if you treated aggressively and stopped doing the activities that hurt (i.e. programming etc.). If you continue, it will progress to the point where you be living with chronic pain like I am.   The thing to think about is what are you going to do for a living when your hands will not let you do what you are doing now. Is your company going to set things up so you can use speech recognition or are they going to cas
[04:30] <CptnAwesome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  <<-- doesnt seem to mention anywhere how to INSTALL the driver, or where to get it, or is the process ONLY about setting it up with the config files?
[04:31] <cryptide> so i upgraded my video card from geforce 6600 to an 8400 and now every time i reboot i have to manually set my right resolution... any tips?
[04:31] <lampliter> and I still need help with playing my dvd..
[04:31] <lampliter> did all the faq stuff nbit no joy
[04:31] <DasEi1> CptnAwesome: did you remove the non working propitary one ?
[04:32] <auk> cryptide: you could try: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[04:32] <cryptide> auk
[04:32] <Cyrano_De> lampliter: I'm going to go back to 8.10 and xfce 4.4 that has pretty much full keyboard control.  And I get a stable system that I can count on to boot.
[04:32] <CptnAwesome> DasEi1, yes i did, and now i have a smaller screen res.
[04:32] <cryptide> will do
[04:32] <ubuntu_giant> I'm trying to burn the video DVD iso image onto an vfat system.  Could that be the problem?
[04:33] <cryptide> auk: Package `xorg-server' is not installed and no info is available.
[04:33] <auk> anyone want to answer me on the firefox 3.5 issue?
[04:34] <Jared555> auk: the system will automatically reinstall 3.0 when you install 3.5, they require that you have both
[04:34] <ubuntu_giant> C(u) *
[04:34] <Jared555> which causes some irritating things to happen but nothing big
[04:34] <DasEi1> CptnAwesome: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[04:34] <KittyBoots> DasEil: It appears as though sudo fdisk -l shows the presence of the drive
[04:34] <CptnAwesome> ahh thanks
[04:34] <ubuntu_giant> C(u) * == "See you all!"
[04:34] <colloguy> so why does firefox-3.5 from mozilla require firefox-3.0 : /
[04:34] <lampliter> Cyrano_De: did that (sunos4 and emacs)  didn't help.  still had the Physical ability to program taken away from me.
[04:34] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: k, good sign
[04:34] <KittyBoots> I am going to try rebooting to see if it clears things up
[04:34] <Jared555> colloguy: I think firefox-3.5 requires firefox which requires firefox-3.0 IIRC
[04:35] <DasEi1> KittyBoots:mount        <<check its NOT mounted
[04:35] <KittyBoots> ?
[04:35] <Jared555> off to do something I am going to regret (upgrading to karmic)
[04:35] <DasEi1> KittyBoots:enter  mount in terminal, check
[04:36] <lampliter> Any case, I'm trying to put together a project where we can start building the framework for editing code using speech recognition. Before you doubt whether not it's possible, remember. I've spent 15 years working on the problem with other injured programmers and the first generation turned out really nice for creating code and not so good for editing code.
[04:36] <auk> Jared555: thanks so i'll just go ahead and install -3.5 on top
[04:36] <CptnAwesome> hrmmm ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt do anything =(
[04:37] <KittyBoots> DasEil: how do I mount it?
[04:37] <bazhang> !dontzap | CptnAwesome
[04:37] <DasEi1> KittyBoots:do not mount it this time, make sure it''s not listet in output of 'mount'
[04:37] <DasEi1> do*
[04:37] <pelmen> just a quick question, what the hell is SysRq ?
[04:38] <bazhang> pelmen, prtscrn
[04:38] <pelmen> ok thanks
[04:38]  * CptnAwesome doesnt have a sysrq key
[04:38] <KittyBoots> DasEil:  Ok then restart?
[04:38] <bazhang> CptnAwesome, its the print screen button/key
[04:38] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: what's the devicename ? /dev/sdb1 ?
[04:39] <KittyBoots> yes
[04:39] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: e2fsck -p /dev/sdb1
[04:39] <cast> DasEi1: NO
[04:39] <DasEi1> cast : ?
[04:40] <cast> normal, sane practice, in sensitive situations like this is to take a disk image before you start [potentially] breaking things
[04:40] <KittyBoots> DasEs1: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1
[04:40] <KittyBoots> /dev/sdb1:
[04:40] <DasEi1> cast : preen option ?
[04:41] <cast> KittyBoots has expressed the value of the data, appearingly he doesn't have a backup
[04:41] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: apt-get install pastebinit
[04:41] <KittyBoots> DasEi1: I do not know what that means
[04:41] <KittyBoots> 0k
[04:41] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[04:42] <KittyBoots> it is installing what does pastebinit do?
[04:42] <cast> paste bin it
[04:42] <DasEi1> !paste | KittyBoots
[04:43] <tester-ubuntu> ok flame
[04:43] <StrangeCharm> what's the recommended way to securely share files on a windows system to an ubuntu system (over a lan)
[04:43] <tester-ubuntu> there a command to see if my dvd has dual layer support
[04:43] <auk> cryptide: have you gone system->administration->pilotes de périphériques yet?
[04:43] <KittyBoots> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/f7f1bf984
[04:43] <cast> StrangeCharm: define security requirements
[04:43] <ohmygawd> im trying to install iTunes on my system using wine, it keeps telling me "Module not found" what does that mean?
[04:44] <Cyrano_De> StrangeCharm: winscp
[04:44] <Lynx-O> how would i go about geting to a terminal without x running
[04:44] <Lynx-O> !xserver
[04:44] <Cyrano_De> StrangeCharm: or cygwin scp
[04:44] <sledmouth> ekiga probs
[04:44] <Lynx-O> !x
[04:44] <Cyrano_De> StrangeCharm: on the ubuntu system: apt-get install ssh-server
[04:44] <auk> cryptide: (sorry i'm using my comp in french and i can't find the translation for that menu item)
[04:45] <StrangeCharm> cast - unauthorised user on the local network cannot read files in transit or access files on the windows system
[04:45] <sledmouth> can anyone assist with ekiga issue; it crashes
[04:45] <DasEi1>  KittyBoots: sure, it's ntfs, should have mentioned that, so..
[04:45] <StrangeCharm> Cyrano_De-  the files are on the windows system
[04:45] <cast> StrangeCharm: a sshd on the windows box, would be one means. or smb and a vps, or NFSv4 and probably a vps
[04:45] <Cyrano_De> StrangeCharm: That does not matter.  On the windows system install winscp or if your not afraid of the keyboard, cygwin.
[04:45] <DasEi1>  KittyBoots: sudo mkdir /media/hd320
[04:45] <cast> StrangeCharm: erm, s/vps/vpn
[04:46] <DasEi1>  KittyBoots: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/hd320
[04:46] <Cyrano_De> StrangeCharm: You scp the files from the windows host to the Ubuntu host with ssh-server running
[04:47] <DasEi1>  KittyBoots: getting error ?
[04:47] <Cyrano_De> StrangeCharm: scp is a fully encrypted session.
[04:47] <cast> Cyrano_De: not quite what he wants...sitting on the ubuntu box he would not have access to his windows file tree
[04:48] <Cyrano_De> cast: Then he could install cygwin and ssh-server there.  If he want secure thats pretty secure.
[04:48] <asas> Hi, I had to replace my motherboard and now when I boot I get "GRUB" in caps, but no operating system.. any ideas on how to fix?
[04:48] <apoleo12> gawd now I really want to see my linux binary code to have sex with eachother
[04:49] <cast> asas: i'd reinstall grub
[04:49] <KittyBoots> DesEi1: mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[04:49] <koro> i have problems streaming divx videos (the ones that you would play with the "divx player" plugin on windows). The plugin firefox uses is the totem one. It works, but it's extremely bogus, it doesn't seem to buffer properly and it stops every half second (on a good stream, with a good connection)
[04:49] <koro> is there anything i can do about that?
[04:49] <cast> asas: theres probably a few docs around for how to restore grub, it's not too hard, i normally just use a livecd
[04:49] <Cyrano_De> If he installs ssh-server on the windows host he may be able to use sshfs on ubuntu to mount the volume over ssh.  I have not tried that with a windows host.  Works wonders with a pair of Linux hosts.
[04:49] <KittyBoots> DesEi1: I am restarting Ill be back
[04:49] <auk> cryptide: have you gone system->administration->pilotes de périphériques?  (sorry i'm using my comp in french and i can't find the translation for that menu item)
[04:50] <kebomix1> i made swap partition  how to auto " swap on " on system start up ?
[04:50] <cast> kebomix1: have an entry in /etc/fstab
[04:51] <Cyrano_De> He could rely on windows security....
[04:51] <jvainio> hey, is there an easy way to mount an Apple Time Capsule?
[04:51] <asas> cast: got a link? I tried some recommendations on the forum and they didn't work. I think I need to rebuild my menu.ist
[04:52] <CptnAwesome> DasEi1, no luck with screen resolution. i rebooted the machine and i still only get 1024x768 =(
[04:52] <test34> they stripped lots of features off xchat-gnome
[04:52] <kebomix1> cast : http://paste.ubuntu.com/232521/
[04:52] <Cyrano_De> CptnAwesome: What does xrandr show?
[04:53] <DasEi1> !resolution | CptnAwesome
[04:53] <test34> CptnAwesome: urban terror
[04:53] <DasEi1>  CptnAwesome : which res to do you want ?
[04:53] <kebomix1> cast: swap partition on sda6
[04:54] <test34> cptn-s
[04:54] <patriconway> how do you change the startup sound
[04:55] <ekontsevoy> How do you guys deal with kernel updates and VMWare tools (or VirtualBox) drivers? I just want to know I'm not the only one who's recompiling those goddamn drivers every month after each kernel ver. bump.
[04:55] <CptnAwesome> sorry folks.
[04:55] <koshari> ekontsevoy virtualbox comes with a utility that compiles the ner drivers when you update ther ketrnel
[04:55] <koshari> kernel
[04:56] <ekontsevoy> koshari: oh... that's neat. Last time I used it I don't remember seeing anything like it. You're talking about guests, right?
[04:56] <CptnAwesome> test34, what does "urban terror" have to do with anything?
[04:56] <koshari> no the host, the guests only need the guest drivers in regard to rsolution and seamless ect
[04:57] <KittyBoots> DasEi1: I restarted and now it works fine!
[04:57] <DasEi1> ekontsevoy: follow koshari, I don't have it present, you install that (similar to dkms) one time and get rid of it
[04:57] <KittyBoots> thanks for the help!
[04:57] <arquebus> the icon for my wireless connection on my netbook says its connected but I cant get anything to work on the internet, Firefox just gives a cant connect error, anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:57] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: nice to hear
[04:57] <patriconway> how do you change startup sounds
[04:58] <DasEi1> KittyBoots: so now is a good time to think about backups, nor ?
[04:59] <smc> hello
[04:59] <gartral> PhotoJim: grrr... wodim is saying i dont have an iso
[04:59] <DasEi1> arquebus: can you ping google ?
[04:59] <gartral> !ping
[04:59] <arquebus> patriconway- DasEi1, can you tell me how to do that
[04:59] <quinton> Blah. I've tried everything. I need some help fixing my display resolution.
[04:59] <jamescarr> you know what really grinds my wheels!? Randomly my mouse gets screwed and I cant click on anything, and I cant alt+tab to other windows unless I close the current one
[05:00] <jamescarr> it's annoying!!!
[05:00] <DasEi1> arquebus: ping google.com               <<in terminal
[05:00] <jamescarr> like, right now I cant click out of xchat
[05:00] <jamescarr> wtf
[05:00] <ctmjr> patriconway:  under preferences / sound if your using gnome
[05:00] <jamescarr> causes this?
[05:00] <jamescarr> I am in gnome
[05:00] <jamescarr> and using ubuntu 9.04
[05:00] <PhotoJim> gartral: maybe that's your problem... bad iso?
[05:00] <jamescarr> any ideas!?
[05:00] <qwyeth> SnowDono:  Hi there!
[05:01] <BellinXFelon> when i stream videos in konqueror there is no sound
[05:01] <jamescarr> also, when I log into kde, there is now wireless access
[05:01] <jamescarr> ?
[05:01] <DasEi1> arquebus: break this cmd with ctrl+c
[05:01] <arquebus> DasEi1: its says unknown host google.com
[05:01] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: Your lucky you can close the window your working in.
[05:01] <gartral> PhotoJim: i just riped an old backup too iso to check, and the checksum passed... this is very ODD
[05:01] <DasEi1> arquebus: so your network is down ?! are you chatting from that host ?
[05:01] <jamescarr> Cyrano_De, what causes this!?
[05:01] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: 9.04 will completly lock up on me pretty regularly.
[05:01] <quinton> Need help fixing my display resolution. I've reformatted twice, tried a bunch of commands, nothing can get it back to 1280x1024. I can ddcprobe and see it as 1280x1024 but I can't set it as that. Anyone?
[05:01] <jamescarr> Cyrano_De, really?
[05:01] <jamescarr> :(
[05:02] <Puel_> Just testing connection.
[05:02] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: I wish I knew.  A lot of people have been thinking it was video drivers.  If you look on luanchpad you will see several bug reports
[05:02] <PhotoJim> gartral: very odd.  I've burned iso files using wodim many times.
[05:02] <arquebus> DasEi1: yes, I have a wireless modem in my house, Im chatting from that, but my netbook wont connect
[05:02] <jamescarr> what is the shortcut to escape to gdm login?
[05:02] <jamescarr> I keep rebooting to fix it
[05:02] <quinton> I'm on 9.04 and never lock up.
[05:02] <DasEi1> arquebus: but you're not on the netbook now ?
[05:02] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: It does not seem to matter if you are running an ATI card, Nvidia card or Intel card.
[05:03] <jamescarr> I am on an Nvidia card
[05:03] <quinton> but I'm using KDE.
[05:03] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: If you have another system you can ssh in and safely reboot.
[05:03] <arquebus> DasEi1: no Im not, it wont connect to the internet, even though the network icon says its connected
[05:03] <jamescarr> Cyrano_De, it seems ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt go to gdm
[05:03] <DasEi1> !network | arquebus , sorry for me leaving now
[05:03] <jamescarr> Cyrano_De, nah, I can reboot just fine
[05:03] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: for most, myself included the magic sysreq setquence doesn't even help.
[05:03] <jamescarr> I just hate the time lapse from rebooting
[05:04] <arquebus> thanks anyways DasEi1
[05:04] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: ctrl+alt+backspace has been disabled in 9.04.  You can turn it back on.  There is a utility that will do so for you.
[05:04] <jamescarr> whats the shortcut to escape to restart X now? ctr+alt+backspace doesnt do it anymore
[05:04] <jamescarr> Cyrano_De, ah
[05:04] <DasEi1> arquebus: get it running, see you back :)
[05:04] <ctmjr> !dontzap | jamescarr
[05:05] <Cyrano_De> Thats the one.
[05:05] <arquebus> DasEi1: ok
[05:05] <breauxlg> Newbie here, I deleted /etc/courier/pop3d instead of /etc/courier/pop3d.pem during a setup. How can I recover /etc/courier/pop3d. If I am no using this properly, please forgive me.
[05:06] <jamescarr> can I restart x from the commandline?
[05:06] <Cyrano_De> jamescarr: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:07] <jamescarr> thanks
[05:08] <Cyrano_De> jam3rr: bug 345119 is one of the threads talking about similar issues.
[05:08] <Cyrano_De> too late.
[05:08] <breauxlg> Hello? I have no idea how to ask a question here.
[05:08] <Cyrano_De> breauxlg: just ask
[05:09] <breauxlg> I deleted /etc/courier/pop3d instead of /etc/courier/pop3d.pem can I get back the default /etc/courier/pop3d file?
[05:09] <gfhds> hello. I just installed the 9.04 but seems like there is some ports closed by default or kinda firewall running already. is it? because i cant open some web pages with web cams
[05:10] <cast> gfhds: sudo iptables -L will list your firewall rules
[05:10] <IcemanV9> gfhds: in your terminal, type sudo ufw allow www
[05:10] <gfhds> cast IcemanV9 thankyou will try
[05:11] <kebomix1> cast : can u help me plz ?
[05:11] <breauxlg> how can I re-extract /etc/courier/pop3d?
[05:11] <test34> CptnAwesome: arent you an urban terror player ?
[05:12] <cast> kebomix1: seems unlikely if you can't spell
[05:12] <breauxlg> Okay, I must be in the wrong place.
[05:12] <kebomix1> cast !
[05:12] <gfhds> IcemanV9: didnt help and cast i dunno witch port to open thats the thing
[05:13] <quinton> Can anyone help me fix my display?
[05:13] <IcemanV9> gfhds: is it working without the ufw being disabled?
[05:14] <new> #crunchbang
[05:14] <gfhds> IcemanV9: sorry for silly question, but how can i disable?
[05:14] <ohmygawd> bit of a n00b question, how do i find out the spec of my machine in Ubuntu? as in what version of stuff i have installed
[05:14] <cast> ohmygawd: dpkg -l will list versions
[05:14] <IcemanV9> gfhds: type sudo ufw status  ... tell me if it is enabled or disabled
[05:14] <Chaotic_Descent> I need help with Wine. trying to get world of warcraft running on an ATI Radeon 9600. I don't think hardware acceleration has ever worked for me in Wine. I get the screen update every 20 seconds.
[05:14] <Pici> gfhds: Your issue sounds like a flash or java problem, not something with opened ports.  You are trying to view webcams that are elsewhere on the internet, right?
[05:15] <ohmygawd> cast: how do i find out what build of Ubuntu is installed? same way?
[05:15] <Pici> ohmygawd: lsb_release -a    to find your Ubuntu release version
[05:15] <gfhds> IcemanV9: Inactive
[05:15] <gartral> Chaotic_Descent: umm radeon drivers instaaled?
[05:15] <gfhds> Pici: thats right
[05:15] <IcemanV9> gfhds: then, it is not firewall issue. follow Pici's comment
[05:16] <gfhds> Pici: thankyou
[05:16] <Chaotic_Descent> gartral: I think so.
[05:16] <Pici> gfhds: Do you have a link you can share to something that isnt working?
[05:17] <Chaotic_Descent> The guide says to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but when I try to, I get a blank gedit.
[05:18] <Cyrano_De> Chaotic_Descent: Did you sudo gedit?
[05:18] <Chaotic_Descent> Cyrano_De: yes.
[05:18] <ctmjr> Chaotic_Descent: type this in a terminal to see if you have 3d rendering glxinfo | grep render
[05:18] <Chaotic_Descent> There's no file. I just checked.
[05:19] <Chaotic_Descent> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 8x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[05:19] <kyle__> is any one here ?
[05:20] <Cyrano_De> No one here but us chicken
[05:20] <Cyrano_De> s
[05:20] <Chaotic_Descent> It just makes no sense that hardware acceleration is being used if I'm getting the screen update every 20 seconds. There's no way it's that bad.
[05:21] <kyle__> how to run oracle database 11g setup in ubuntu 9.04 32bit desktop
[05:21] <kyle__> chichens ??
[05:21] <Chaotic_Descent> It may be enabled on one end, but it's obviously not going all the way through to the application I'm running.
[05:21] <IcemanV9> Chaotic_Descent: it seems that 3D is not enabled if you do not get "direct rendering: Yes"
[05:21] <kyle__> what's chickens' ?
[05:21] <sh4> kitty: what happened to it?
[05:22] <Chaotic_Descent> IcemanV9: oh, I did get that line. I didn't realize it was two lines of output.
[05:22] <Bookman> Are there any fun games to play in Ubuntu that do not require OpenGL (which does not work all that great on my video card)
[05:23] <kyle__> Bookman: games ?.......i want know it too...
[05:23] <IcemanV9> Chaotic_Descent: then it is enabled. hm. i'm not an expert with wine (haven't play with it in years)
[05:23] <IcemanV9> applications > games
[05:23] <Bookman> Even a scrolling game would do
[05:23] <Chaotic_Descent> How do I understand what the situation is with setting up Wine and graphics card drivers? I don't understand anything about it. like what the heck xconf is.
[05:23] <Bookman> IcemanV9: all I see are card games and such....
[05:24] <Chaotic_Descent> oh. xorg.conf. or X, or ... I have no clue.
[05:24] <koro> uh
[05:24] <koro> is it me, or totem stops buffering streaming media when you pause it?
[05:24] <koro> is there a way to change that
[05:24] <gfhds> Pici: thankyou and IcemanV9 - that was a flush issue. now works fine!
[05:24] <Chaotic_Descent> I'd might as well be following Marty Chang's advice and applying chunky peanut-butter to my "internet vent" to prime my load "catches", and boost my desktop wallpaper.
[05:25] <Bookman> kyle__: if you find one, let me know
[05:25] <ohmygawd> is there an easy way to delete duplicates in Banshee?
[05:25] <quinton> Can anyone help me with my display resolution?
[05:26] <Chaotic_Descent> ... is there a wine help channel? seems #wine here is invite only.
[05:26] <gartral> quinton: what kind of card do you have?
[05:26] <gartral> Chaotic_Descent: #winehq
[05:26] <Chaotic_Descent> I hate computers so much. they make me cry.
[05:26] <ctmjr> Chaotic_Descent: you need to do some research on playing games in wine https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[05:26] <IcemanV9> kyle__: which edition of oracle? i've installed xe by using deb package w/o a problem on 6.06 (dapper) box
[05:26] <quinton> gartral: an nvidia 6150 le. I've had it working before but then ubuntu updated and since then I can't et it back to 1280x1024
[05:26] <kyle__> Bookman: ok...
[05:26] <quinton> gartral: i've reformatted twice and tried everything
[05:26] <asas> so I ran jfs_fsck on my raid partition that I just reassembled and it says it is clean, but when I try to mount the partition I get a bad super block or incorrect filesystem error. any ideas?
[05:27] <mlissner> Hey, are there any japanese speakers in the crowd? I'm confused about how to get japanese input working on a new install...it seems crazy-complicated.
[05:27] <wiseman> would someone be kind enough to walk me through using gparted?
[05:27] <kyle__> IcemanV9: oracle database 11g
[05:27] <gartral> quinton: the new 180 drivers were installed, yes?
[05:27] <mlissner> wiseman: It's not hard...what are you trying to do.
[05:27] <quinton> gartal: yes.
[05:27] <quinton> gartral: yes
[05:27] <sjlkg> has anyone ever noticed that the icons for sorting columns seem to be mixed up? maybe it's just me but shouldn't V sort things from high to low and /\ from low to high?
[05:27] <gartral> quinton: ahhah, it
[05:27] <kyle__> IcemanV9: i've installed the express one....
[05:27] <wiseman> mlissner: I downloaded and burned the iso assuming it was a bootable thing, but it isn't
[05:28] <quinton> gartral: I did them manually before and it worked. this time i went into hardware drivers  and activated it
[05:28] <ctmjr> !jp | mlissner
[05:28] <wiseman> so now what
[05:28] <gartral> s gotten through System
[05:28] <gartral> >
[05:28] <gartral> Admini
[05:28] <Chaotic_Descent> ctmjr: that's one of the webpages I'm already using.
[05:28] <gartral> sta
[05:28] <gartral> r
[05:28] <FloodBot1> gartral: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <gkasinath> Hi room!
[05:28] <mlissner> ubottu: I should clarify, I don't speak japanese...the person I'm installing for does.
[05:28] <quinton> gartral: it gave me a few odd resolutions but not 1280x1024. I'm stuck in 1024x768 atm D:
[05:28] <wiseman> mlissner: is it supposed to be bootable?
[05:28] <mlissner> ctmjr: I should clarify, I don't speak japanese...
[05:28] <IcemanV9> kyle__: i haven't try the standard edition, but i can see there is a documentation on how to install 11g
[05:29]  * wiseman chris farley:  FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I DON'T SPEAK JAPANESE
[05:29] <mlissner> wiseman: ummm....I'm assuming you have an Ubuntu ISO?
[05:29] <wiseman> mlissner: let me back up
[05:29] <gartral> s gotten through System>Administration>NVIDIA X Server Settings>X Server Display Configureation
[05:29] <ctmjr> mlissner: ok sorry read it wrong
[05:29] <wiseman> here's the story
[05:29] <mlissner> wiseman: please.
[05:29] <arquebus> 78
[05:29] <kyle__> IcemanV9: i c.......thanks....
[05:29] <gartral> quinton: catch that?
[05:30] <mlissner> ctmjr: So...you don't happen to know how, do you?
[05:30] <gkasinath> hwo to install windows 7 from Ubuntu. Target windows disk is different
[05:30] <wiseman> I currently dual boot windows vista and ubuntu 8.04.  I want to wipe everything clean.  start from scratch.  Brand new windows, brand new linux (switching to mint!)
[05:30] <quinton> gartral: I have the X-Server config but i didnt see what you said to do
[05:30] <ctmjr> mlissner: no
[05:30] <SchmittyDoesIt> has anyone got java working on ubuntu 9.04 I have tried different browsers but it is all the same. I hava fresh install of ubuntu and I have reinstalled sun java several times as well to no avail. At no time to I encounter an error. The applets just don't load. All security settings are fine. Websites have even been added as trusted and I still get nothing.
[05:30] <SchmittyDoesIt> Is this a known issue
[05:30] <quickhand> I have an eee pc t91, and I can't for the life of me get the video drivers to work right.  I just end up in standard vesa, no matter what I do.  Anyone kind enough to help?
[05:31] <mlissner> wiseman: OK. I'm not sure about doing a dual boot install, but you should be able to wipe the disks with no trouble when you do your installations, right?
[05:31] <egc> \X/
[05:31] <mlissner> wiseman: Also, have you considered virtualbox?
[05:31] <gartral> quinton: PM..
[05:31] <ohmygawd> any iPod owners here, what program do you use?
[05:31] <wiseman> so I use F8 while booting to windows to get the advanced boot settings to do a factory fresh install of windows from the partition.  Now it doesn't see the partition that has the OS install data on it, but it's there.  linux sees it, and windows sees it in the system restore tool but not in My computer.  So some guys in the windows chat said to use gparted to unhide it
[05:31] <ohmygawd> is it mainly Banshee?
[05:31] <mlissner> So...if nobody knows how to do japanese input...does anybody understand/use scim?
[05:32] <wiseman> so I downloaded Gparted and I'm trying to make that work.  i'd imagine that a tool to repartition disks would be bootable, but this does not appear to be.
[05:33] <mlissner> wiseman: Hmmm...I haven't done a dual boot config in years, but I remember something about the boot flags and grub, and windows and stuff getting messed if it's not done right.
[05:33] <IcemanV9> SchmittyDoesIt: type sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin
[05:33] <arquebus> mlissner: have you added japanese in System>Admistration>Language Support?
[05:33] <SchmittyDoesIt> anyone want to talk java with me? Anyone have it working
[05:33] <SchmittyDoesIt> ok IcemanV9 one sec
[05:33] <mlissner> wiseman: are you following a guide? Also, did you see my question about virtualbox?
[05:34] <arquebus> wiseman- did you check the boot order of your bios?
[05:34] <mlissner> arquebus: yeah, I did that, but that doesn't help with japanese input aside from basic kana. I need to somehow do hirigana, I think.
[05:34] <gkasinath> wiseman - I have also heard similar stories about Either Ubuntu or Window$ messing up the MBR in Dual boots.
[05:35] <wiseman> how would I use virtualbox in this situation?  I don't have any installation discs, just the partition
[05:35] <pam> debuild question: what does "dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file foo" mean?
[05:35] <SchmittyDoesIt> IcemanV9: your the shit, i don't care what they say about you
[05:35] <mlissner> wiseman: if you install purely ubuntu, you can then install virtualbox and run windows in that.
[05:36] <wiseman> but i I install purely ubuntu I lose my partition
[05:36] <wiseman> and I can't install windows
[05:36] <mlissner> wiseman: OK, maybe I'm confused.
[05:37] <syntax> like this
[05:37] <IcemanV9> SchmittyDoesIt: i'm sorry? does it work?
[05:37] <syntax> i would fresh install ubuntu
[05:37] <syntax> vb windows
[05:37] <wiseman> ok it won't boot from gparted
[05:37] <mlissner> wiseman: you have two partitions that you just installed, right? One is windows, the other is mint?
[05:37] <Bookman> Ok, again, any 2d scroller that works in ubuntu without the need for opengl
[05:38] <wiseman> mlissner: I have ubuntu now.  there are three total partitions.  One main windows, one windows recovery, one ubuntu.  I want to wipe windows clean and get factory fresh, and I want to wipe ubuntu clean and install Mint.
[05:38] <mlissner> wiseman: gparted is a tool to modify partitions and disks. It doesn't boot anything, but it might be able to adjust boot flags so things can boot on their own.
[05:38] <SNALH> hi all
[05:38] <trollboy> wiseman?
[05:38] <wiseman> hi trollboy
[05:38] <SchmittyDoesIt> IcemanV9: yes it works. This helped my girlfriend. I think you just got me laid.
[05:38] <mlissner> wiseman: OK, so you don't mind if you wipe the whole disk?
[05:38] <trollboy> we're not related are we?
[05:38] <wiseman> mlissner: that's the point
[05:39] <mlissner> wiseman: just making sure.
[05:39] <wiseman> trollboy: we may be
[05:39] <IcemanV9> SchmittyDoesIt: glad it works.
[05:39] <trollboy> scary
[05:39] <wiseman> I've already saved everything important to an external
[05:39] <mlissner> wiseman: so if you want, you can use an iso to install purely mint.
[05:39] <omkar> hello guys
[05:39] <trollboy> you're not related to the ohio wiseman's are you?
[05:39] <wiseman> so I'm just trying to do some kill it with fire style spring cleaning
[05:39] <mlissner> wiseman: once that's installed, you can install windows into virtualbox as a program within mint.
[05:39] <Bookman> ok, maybe a good pinball game that does not require opengl
[05:39] <wiseman> trollboy maybe, but I'm from california and my dad is from indiana
[05:40] <trollboy> quite possible then
[05:40] <trollboy> weird
[05:40] <eross> what's up Bookman
[05:40] <wiseman> mlissner: I'm well aware that I can just install mint and kill everything
[05:40] <omkar> I hve ubuntu installed n if I want to remove it n install kubuntu in to the system
[05:40] <wiseman> mlissner: but I also need to have a windows partition
[05:40] <omkar> do i hve to restore the mbr of windows
[05:40] <Bookman> hey eross
[05:40] <cryptide> so whats the command similar to ctl+alt+del that i can use to take back control over a game that has froze?
[05:41] <mlissner> wiseman: OK, so you do want to have dual boot as opposed to virtualizing windows.
[05:41] <wiseman> mlissner: I'd like to.  BUT if I just install linux over everything I would lose my windows partition, right?
[05:41] <mlissner> wiseman: Right, but I thought you didn't mind wiping everything?
[05:41] <wiseman> I suppose I could virtualbox windows, I just don't want to blanket Mint over my hard drive and lose the partition that windows installs from.
[05:42] <eross> bookman are you looking for non-opengl games?
[05:42] <Bookman> eross: yup
[05:42] <Bookman> eross: a good 2d scroller would be awesome....duke nukem style
[05:42] <IcemanV9> wiseman: you can downsize the windows partition via gparted and install ubuntu onto the free space
[05:42] <mlissner> wiseman: OH! I see, you're trying to keep the recovery partition for windows?
[05:42] <wiseman> I want windows.  i want linux.  Windows installation data is ona partition on my hard drive because toshiba is a bunch of ass holes.  So, I need to have the ability to not nuke that bit.
[05:42] <wiseman> YES
[05:42] <eross> SDL is out of the question?
[05:43] <wiseman> more importantly I'm trying to access it
[05:43] <omkar> see wiseman
[05:43] <wiseman> because the windows recovery tool does not see it
[05:43] <mlissner> wiseman: we have achieved understanding.
[05:43] <wiseman> and now the healing can begin
[05:43] <mlissner> wiseman: OK...now I have to think about how to make that partition useful...
[05:43] <wiseman> enter:  Gparted
[05:43] <wiseman> but it won't load
[05:43] <Bookman> eross: SDL?
[05:44] <arquebus> SDL uses OpenGL, its not different than SDL
[05:44] <wiseman> the CD apears fine, but it doesn't actually work.  I imagine I'm supposed to try to boot from it, loading some sort of user interface that partitions stuff
[05:44] <gkasinath> wiseman: I am in the process of installing windows 7, on virtual box, after reading mlissners post. It is a walk through the park!
[05:44] <mlissner> wiseman: OK...so you're thinking you can make an iso of the partition using gparted, move that to a disc, and then boot from that mo'?
[05:45] <IcemanV9> wiseman: when you boot the pc, hit f2 , f10 or whatever to enter BIOS info. make sure cd-rom is first before the hard drive
[05:45] <eross> have you searched here?  http://happypenguin.org/
[05:45] <mlissner> gkasinath: You mocking me?
[05:46] <wiseman> mlissner: the windows people think that the partition is hidden and needs to be unhidden
[05:46] <Chaotic_Descent> What was that wine help channel?
[05:46] <wiseman> IcemanV9: I manually tell it to boot from cd
[05:46] <Chaotic_Descent> I restarted and lost it.
[05:46] <mlissner> wiseman: I say bah to that. As far as I know there's no concept of hidden partition with linux.
[05:46] <mlissner> wiseman: just mounted or not.
[05:46] <ctmjr> Chaotic_Descent: #winehq
[05:46] <wiseman> IcemanV9: and that worked when I ran the Mint live CD, but not the gparted thing
[05:47] <wiseman> mlissner: but there is forr windows, aparently
[05:47] <wiseman> and that may be my problem
[05:47] <eross> Here's a 2d rpg, manaworld:  http://themanaworld.org/index.php
[05:47] <wiseman> so how would you propose I make it useful again?
[05:47] <eross> woops  mmorpg
[05:47] <mlissner> wiseman: I think windows is calling hidden to mean unmounted, unknown.
[05:47] <gkasinath> mlissner: no, just saying that your tip has helped me well.
[05:47] <mlissner> wiseman: so when you start gparted, the partition doesn't show?
[05:48] <wiseman> I can't start gparted
[05:48] <mlissner> gkasinath: Oh good. It sounded like you were mocking me since this taking a lot of back and forth. Glad you got it working.
[05:48] <IcemanV9> wiseman: gotcha. mdsum5 gparted iso (and CD) to be sure it's not corrupted.
[05:48] <gkasinath> mlissner: :)
[05:48] <mlissner> wiseman: that's odd. what happens when you try?
[05:48] <wiseman> Linux reads it fine when Its up
[05:49] <wiseman> mlissner: nothing at all
[05:49] <Bookman> eross: thanks for the links!  Exploring now.  Duke Nukem clone would be just awesome
[05:49] <wiseman> It pauses then boots from HDD
[05:49] <snape> usb joystick is not working with visual boy advance using vba express frontend, any help plz
[05:49] <wiseman> IcemanV9: I don't think it is, everything looks fine when I explore it
[05:50] <Bookman> eross: the links you gave don't seem to be valid once you want to download
[05:50] <mlissner> wiseman: Now you lost me. gparted is a program.
[05:50] <mlissner> wiseman: so confused....
[05:50] <Bookman> Anyone else with a good scrolling game for Ubuntu out there?
[05:51] <wiseman> mlissner: you load it when the computer is already booted?
[05:51] <IcemanV9> wiseman: there is gparted on ubuntu livecd, use that instead
[05:51] <mlissner> wiseman: Fact.
[05:51] <wiseman> mlissner: booting ubuntu now then
[05:51] <mlissner> wiseman: hahaha. Funny. K.
[05:51] <eross> which one
[05:52] <sanmarcos> how can I boot the ubuntu netbook remix .img file in Vmware Fusion?
[05:52] <eross> pm me
[05:52] <wiseman> ok ubuntu is now up and jamming
[05:52] <mlissner> wiseman: Cool. Start up gparted.
[05:52] <wiseman> how do I get gparted to go
[05:53] <mlissner> wiseman: you probably have to install it. otherwise: gksudo gparted should work
[05:53] <Bookman> hmmmm.....
[05:53] <wiseman> you mean I didn't have to waste a cd?
[05:54] <mlissner> wiseman: no, I mean install gparted.
[05:54] <wiseman> install how?
[05:54] <wiseman> lol, I've  never installed anything from a CD in linux
[05:54] <mlissner> Oh...I thought you could boot the mint install...
[05:54] <mlissner> you're booting a live CD?
[05:54] <wiseman> No
[05:55] <wiseman> ok fact check
[05:55] <wiseman> I have ubuntu
[05:55] <mlissner> hit me
[05:55] <wiseman> ubuntu has been on this computer for over a year
[05:55]  * Whoop hits mlissner 
[05:55] <wiseman> it is installed, has its own partition, etc
[05:55] <wiseman> this is all part of an elaborate spring cleaning of windows and upgrade to Mint
[05:55] <wiseman> forget about Mint right now
[05:56] <wiseman> I have the liveCD, I can install that any time I want
[05:56] <wiseman> right now I need to get the windows part straightened out because if that gets lost then I'm in big heap troubl
[05:56] <mlissner> Gotcha.
[05:56] <mlissner> So what we want to do is make an iso (or something) of the windows partition, right?
[05:56] <quinton> gart, yt?
[05:57] <wiseman> mlissner: if thats what it takes to fix it, but I think that would take too much space.
[05:57] <wiseman> I don't have any blank DVDs right now
[05:57] <wiseman> all i want to do is get into Gparted.  the windows guys think that there's a thing to tick to make it visible again.
[05:57] <wiseman> so forget everything else, get me into gparted and I'll see if I'm facing in the right direction
[05:57] <mlissner> wiseman: OK...well, you can't install gparted (to my knowledge) from a live CD.
[05:58] <wiseman> ok how do I GET TO gparted then when I have the CD\
[05:58] <mlissner> wiseman: You can install it to a live USB disk, or to your existing ubuntu install
[05:58] <mintux> how to password or encryption for files ? that could not opened in otherlinux or os or ... ?
[05:58] <wiseman> so what the hell good is the cd then?
[05:58] <snape> usb joystick is not working with visual boy advance using vba express frontend, any help plz
[05:58] <mlissner> wiseman: Or, there are liveCD's that come with gparted...but I don't think Ubuntu is one of 'em.
[05:58] <mlissner> wiseman: it's for installing, I'm afraid.
[05:59] <wiseman> so....let's install it then
[05:59] <wiseman> .........
[05:59] <sanmarcos> how can I boot the ubuntu netbook remix .img file in Vmware Fusion?
[05:59] <mlissner> You mean install gparted on your existing ubuntu, or install ubuntu?
[05:59] <Seagate> wiseman: GParted is very powerfully, make bake up immediately.
[06:00] <wiseman> ok aparently I can just apt-get gparted, so I wasted a CD there
[06:01] <mlissner> wiseman: They are right about the hidden flag, I just checked to see if there is one. Gparted will make flipping that flag trivial.
[06:01] <file_file> how can i install latest version of ubuntu kernel ?
[06:01] <mlissner> wiseman: alas.
[06:01] <Seagate> wiseman: I loss my partition cause GParted.
[06:01] <file_file> what's the command to install latest version of kernel ?
[06:01] <wiseman> mlissner:  check this
[06:02] <wiseman> the windows partition that contains my iinstall data has a big orange exclamation mark  near it
[06:02] <wiseman> thats no good
[06:02] <mlissner> wiseman: Hey you got gparted going!
[06:02] <wiseman> yeah, the CD was a waste
[06:02] <wiseman> I just used apt-get
[06:02] <mlissner> wiseman: Actually, I think that's just to keep you on your toes.
[06:02] <wiseman> god bless apt-get
[06:03] <wiseman> everything else has a key by it, this one has an exclamation mark
[06:03] <file_file> is there any command to install latest ubuntu kernel ?
[06:03] <Seagate> wiseman: if you get trouble about cybercrime, use GParted. lol
[06:03] <mlissner> wiseman: Actually, yeah, I take that back...if you right click, and go to properties, I think it will tell you what the warning is.
[06:03] <wiseman> oooh unable to read contents....possibly corrupted datas!
[06:03] <wiseman> SNAP
[06:04] <Nameless_au> naise
[06:04] <wiseman> I was afraid of this...I ran into a rash of corrupted data a while back but It seemed to sort itself out.
[06:04] <mlissner> wiseman: Do you have NTFS tools installed?
[06:04] <wiseman> yeah
[06:04] <wiseman> I can read my regular windows drive fine
[06:04] <mlissner> wiseman: eek. Well, I should abstain from advise about corrupted disks.
[06:04] <wiseman> but there's an itty bitty 1.4gb partition that contains all the stuff I need.
[06:05] <mlissner> wiseman: Nice.
[06:05] <mintux> I found it http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-or-unix-password-protecting-files.html but not any change on my text file
[06:05] <anom01y> what is a good program I can use to create flash ads
[06:05] <mlissner> wiseman: So if you right click on the partition, and go to flags, you can see if the hidden flag is on.
[06:05] <wiseman> mlissner: I checked, that's not it
[06:06] <wiseman> seems the data is somehow corrupted
[06:06] <mlissner> wiseman: bloody hell man. tough times.
[06:06] <IcemanV9> file_file: which version of ubuntu (lsb_release -r) and what's the version of kernel (uname -r)
[06:07] <mlissner> wiseman: ping me if I can be more assistance. I think I may have reached the end of my useful advice.
[06:07] <konsatntin> hi =)
[06:08] <konsatntin> i have a litle problem with my noutebook.
[06:08] <wiseman> mlissner: k.  I may have found something called testdisk that may fit the bill
[06:10] <ce_bizpak> hai
[06:12] <konsatntin> i connected 2-nd monitor. and my resolution changed. when i disconected it. when i disconected 2-nd monitor my resolution get back but now  my monitor has no clear picture
[06:12] <konsatntin> i tryed to reconfigure xorg & xserver but no result
[06:13] <IcemanV9> konsatntin: system > preferences > display
[06:14] <billytwowilly> what should I have in fstab for a jfs filesystem? jfs_fsck reports the filesystm is clean but it won't mount
[06:14] <billytwowilly> I have this: /dev/md_d0 /mnt/md0 jfs relatime 0 2
[06:14] <wiseman> oops
[06:15] <wiseman> I was typing in the wrong room lol
[06:15] <edbian> billytwowilly: Here is a fantastic guide on fstab: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[06:15] <wiseman> mlissner: you still here?
[06:15] <billytwowilly> edbian: thanks
[06:15] <mlissner> wiseman: I am. Sup?
[06:15] <edbian> billytwowilly: Complete with examples!
[06:15] <chrislabeard> any of yall use webmin ?
[06:15] <wiseman> or anybody else
[06:15] <edbian> billytwowilly: NP
[06:15] <konsatntin> IcemanV9 : there is nothing helped me. i tried to change resolution and frequency nothing good =(
[06:15] <wiseman> I'm looking at a util called testdisk
[06:15] <mlissner> k
[06:15] <wiseman> and it will allow me to rewrite the partition tables on a volume
[06:15] <wiseman> will that kill everything on it, or just clean up the file tables so it can be read?
[06:16] <mlissner> I think partition tables are different than the file tables you're thinking of.
[06:16] <mlissner> partition tables are how the disk is arranged & what flags it has
[06:16] <billytwowilly> dmesg says: [  264.892595]  md_d0: unknown partition table
[06:16] <wiseman> well this is what it says to do to recover a lost partition
[06:16] <mlissner> file tables are the journal of which data was written where, when.
[06:16] <wiseman> but i don;t know
[06:17] <mlissner> wiseman: so if you're trying to fix corrupted data, partition tables are not what you're looking for.
[06:17] <snape> anybody plz help
[06:17] <IcemanV9> konsatntin: logout and log back on? ctrl+alt+backspace? to get the resolution back?
[06:18] <wiseman> mlissner: well i don't know if corrupted is the correct terminology for it anyway
[06:18] <nyaa> howdy, I was wondering why or where I could find why  the colors are what they are in the output of ls -l.  (specifically, why one of my  files has a green box around it)
[06:18] <konsatntin> IcemanV9: resolution is fine.
[06:18] <mlissner> wiseman: hmmm...
[06:19] <mlissner> wiseman: well, I don't think that the partition tables are what you're after in any case.
[06:19] <wiseman> mlissner: uh oh...
[06:19] <IcemanV9> nyaa: green means it has an executable permission
[06:19] <konsatntin> IcemanV9: but picture is muzzy
[06:19] <wiseman> I may have messed up bad, hang on
[06:19] <edbian> IcemanV9: The command to restart X is now ctrl + SysRq + k
[06:19] <n2diy> nyaa: interesting question! maybe in ~/.bashrc, but I don't recall seeing it there.
[06:19] <mlissner> wiseman: standing by...
[06:19] <wiseman> oh nm.
[06:20] <Pradalvr> can someone tell me if Ubuntu has software that tracks or pings email address?
[06:20] <wiseman> I thought I atom bombed it
[06:20] <wiseman> I may be ok
[06:20] <mlissner> wiseman: it wouldn't be unheard of with these kinds of programs.
[06:20] <wiseman> BRACE FOR IMPACT
[06:20] <wiseman> well I restarrted and it still thinks it's a computer
[06:21] <edbian> wiseman: I dig your sense of humor.
[06:21] <mlissner> wiseman: Goood. that's good.
[06:21] <IcemanV9> edbian: thx for a tip
[06:21] <Volkodav> Hi! How can I get the higher transfer rate on MBP 5.1 on wl driver? It only gets 34 mps and is up to 300 in Mac OSx ?
[06:21] <edbian> IcemanV9: NP
[06:22] <wiseman> odd
[06:22] <ItchyCube> Can anyone recommend a good channel/server for rfid chat?
[06:22] <wiseman> gparted doesn't see any partitions at all now, but testdisk does
[06:22] <wiseman> edbian: you always dig my sense of humor
[06:22] <wiseman> good to see you again
[06:23] <padawan32>  hi somewone know a good website to learn programming
[06:23] <padawan32> ?
[06:23] <mb_again> nyaa: thanks for questions, man dircolors and dircolors -p tells the story
[06:23] <wiseman> I might be onto something here now
[06:23] <n2diy> ItchyCube: what kind of chat? Technical, political or what?
[06:23] <ColbyIsColby> padawn. Hmm.
[06:23] <ColbyIsColby> What kind of programming?
[06:23] <ColbyIsColby> *padawan
[06:24] <padawan32> like java security app just learn programming
[06:24] <lim_> d
[06:24] <lim_> hi
[06:24] <ColbyIsColby> Hmm. That I wouldn't know.
[06:24] <owen1> i use awesome but want to alternate it once in a while with compiz. how to do that? kill x and run 'compiz' ?
[06:24] <ColbyIsColby> Somebody else here might be able to help.
[06:24] <padawan32> any language that is good!
[06:24] <lim_> ㅋㅋ
[06:24] <wiseman> shoot
[06:24] <lim_> ㅋㅋ
[06:24] <wiseman> no valid backup discs can be found yet
[06:24] <padawan32> colby why u know good web site to learn ?
[06:25] <mb_again> shameless plug: for java see mindprod.com a relative, but smart and its a good java site
[06:25] <lim_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[06:25] <mcrawfor> every time I connect a camera, f-spot starts.  I do not want that.  I have gone into "System -> Prefs -> Removable Drives" and unchecked "import digital photographs" but that does not stop f-spot.
[06:25] <ColbyIsColby> well, what exactly are you trying to make?
[06:25] <ctmjr> owen1: try compiz --replace &  in a terminal
[06:25] <mcrawfor> How can I stop f-spot?
[06:25] <lim_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[06:25] <lim_> ㅋ
[06:25] <lim_> ㅋ
[06:25] <FloodBot1> lim_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <wiseman> looks like I may need to get recovery disks from toshiba
[06:26] <owen1> ctmjr: when i do it i get: Checking for Xgl: not present
[06:26] <n2diy> mcrawfor: look in the same directory for preferred apps.
[06:26] <padawan32> im trying to make a software so i can understand the basic and after i will think about what i want
[06:26] <pianistbaby> hello, can someone help me get pics out of my digital camera? When I plug my cam into usb cable, no screen appears. Pls help. thanks.
[06:26] <padawan32> now i just want a good structure of work
[06:26] <wiseman> and if I have those, i can just install mint on everything now\
[06:26] <wiseman> what do you think, mlissner
[06:26] <nyaa> mb_again thanks a lot =)
[06:26] <owen1> ctmjr: btw, i use two monitors, and nvidia.
[06:26] <ColbyIsColby> understand the basic?
[06:26] <ColbyIsColby> as in, you just want to learn basic programming?
[06:27] <mcrawfor> n2diy: none of the "preferred applications" settings seems to apply to cameras
[06:27] <padawan32> not just the basic but like from a to z
[06:27] <mlissner> wiseman: sounds like a good plan to me. just be forewarned that the stupid recovery disks might not boot in virtualbox
[06:27] <padawan32> i never get to z i know its enourmous
[06:27] <n2diy> mcrawfor: hmmm..
[06:27] <ctmjr> owen1: do you have composite enabled in xorg.conf
[06:27] <mlissner> wiseman: (assuming you're interested in that)
[06:27] <padawan32> its a recreational  thing
[06:27] <owen1> ctmjr: let me see
[06:27] <wiseman> eh
[06:27] <ColbyIsColby> I know, I do the exact same thing.
[06:28] <wiseman> I'll probably just continue the dual boot thing
[06:28] <IcemanV9> pianistbaby: launch f-spot ... then import pix from your camera
[06:28] <ColbyIsColby> W3Schools is a main resource I look at.
[06:28] <Pradalvr> is there a Ubuntu terminal command that i can use to trace email addresses
[06:28] <wiseman> maybe even switch to mint full time
[06:28] <pianistbaby> ok, i'll try IcemanV9.
[06:29] <pianistbaby> IcemanV9: f-spot says "no camera detected" 8-(
[06:29] <mlissner> wiseman: that'd be my suggestion. I keep windows around in virtualbox...if I ever need it, I've got it. if I don't, I'm all good.
[06:29] <ColbyIsColby> Padawan32: Do you have any language in mind?
[06:29] <moymoy> ctmjr: how do you enable compositing in xorg?
[06:29] <n2diy> mcrawfor:the same thing happens to me when I plug in a flash drive with a pic on it, I just click on no.
[06:29] <syntax> thats the way to do mlissner
[06:29] <mcrawfor> there is no where to click "no"
[06:29] <IcemanV9> pianistbaby: disconnect the camera (leave f-spot running), then reconnect the camera
[06:29] <mcrawfor> f-spot launches and an import dialog starts downloading previews
[06:30] <mcrawfor> I do not use f-spot, i do not want it to launch at all
[06:30] <mcrawfor> i have searched gconf for "f-spot"
[06:30] <n2diy> mcrawfor: correction, I select save to disk.
[06:31] <ctmjr> owen1: try this it will give you a list of options you can try  man nvidia-xconfig   for composite you would run sudo  nvidia-xconfig --composite
[06:31] <mcrawfor> n2diy: we are obviously not talking about the same thing, but thanks anyway
[06:31] <imgoofygoober> install gentoo
[06:31] <wiseman> MINT
[06:32] <owen1> ctmjr: i'll try it. i am reading this now - http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=77030
[06:32] <oldude67> why would i want to install genpoo?
[06:32] <wiseman> gentoo is the best linux...of 2002
[06:33] <n2diy> mcrawfor: your camera is just another device with files on it. Ubuntu is just quessing it is a camera, and suggesting you open the device with f-spot.
[06:33] <mcrawfor> no it is not suggesting - it just opens
[06:33] <mcrawfor> there is no "what would you like to do?" dialog
[06:33] <SNALH> need driver builder 4 ubuntu
[06:33] <lightningseed> oldude67: masochistic and bent on compiling everything from source
[06:33] <n2diy> mcrawfor: I see, sorry
[06:33] <ctmjr> owen1: that is a pretty old how too /2006
[06:34] <oldude67> lightningseed, did that once in slackware thats why i now use ubuntu
[06:34] <mcrawfor> n2diy: i believe I found it
[06:34] <mcrawfor> it is apparently, and frustratingly a nautilus setting
[06:34] <trollboy> so I got a device that works out of the box on puppy linux, but not ubuntu.  Its a MultiTech Multimodem GPRS modem running the ti_usb_3410_5052 chipset....  I used modprobe to load the driver.. still nothing though
[06:34] <wiseman> nuking everything, installing mint
[06:35] <n2diy> mcrawfor: that would make sense.
[06:35] <owen1> ctmjr: i run this: sudo nvidia-xconfig --composite   and    compiz --replace and still get: Checking for Xgl: not present. maybe i need to reboot or run the replace command with no X?
[06:36] <apoleo12> heres a tougne in cheek thought... what if someone wrote a virus for linux... will that ever happen?
[06:36] <trollboy> apoleo12, it has
[06:36] <wiseman> there are linux viruses out there
[06:36] <ctmjr> owen1: did you restart X it needs to reload to take effect
[06:36] <wiseman> they're just ineffective because linux is still only 1% of the market
[06:36] <n2diy> apoleo12: it has already happened, and they are safely sealed away.
[06:36] <apoleo12> so would I need a scanner?
[06:36] <spasticteapot> wiseman: O rly?
[06:36] <mataks> help pls. how to install sound card.. newbie here i just did a fresh install
[06:37] <spasticteapot> If nothing else, distribution fragmentation would make writing a virus nigh impossible.
[06:37] <owen1> ctmjr: no. so after killing x, can i run compiz --replace instead of running startx?
[06:37] <spasticteapot> Half my software stops working every time I update!
[06:37] <apoleo12> n2diy: then do I need a scanner?
[06:37] <SNALH> can anyone send me a driver builder 4 ubuntu
[06:37] <owen1> ctmjr: btw, how do i know compiz is running?
[06:37] <wiseman> spasticteapot: YA RLY
[06:38] <n2diy> apoleo12: no, the community is your scanner.
[06:38] <apoleo12> how?? I dont understand
[06:38] <n2diy> apoleo12: the folks that right the software protect it, when a bug is found, you'll get an update notification.
[06:39] <apoleo12> n2diy: so that's the only "protection"?
[06:40] <lightningseed> apoleo12: there are virus scanners like clamav if you really want one, They're not neccisary if you're downloading everything from ubuntus apt-repos and you're configuring your sytem correctly
[06:40] <SNALH> driver builder 4 ubuntu
[06:40] <n2diy> apoleo12: no, your first line of protection is you, don't mess up your file permissions, and your ok.
[06:40] <apoleo12> n2diy: how do I learn about that?
[06:41] <ctmjr> owen1: sorry got disconnected (never run compiz --replace when it is already running) just log out and back in to reset X
[06:41] <n2diy> apoleo12: start out with a google search for linux virus?
[06:41] <Volkodav> anybody with MBP 5.1 getting wireless n speeds at all ?
[06:41] <apoleo12> lightningseed: ahh is there other names? even I can look for it
[06:41] <apoleo12> n2diy: ok Ill do that heh
[06:42]  * apoleo12 feels the love in #ubuntu
[06:42] <lightningseed> apoleo12: avast offers a virus scanner for linux as well
[06:42] <IcemanV9> !virus | apoleo12
[06:42] <apoleo12> how do I paste that???
[06:42] <ItchyCube> Hi ALl
[06:42] <n2diy> apoleo12: however, if you are running a email server, you do want to run av stuff, so as not to spread any.
[06:42] <ItchyCube> i'm looking for anyone who's done some work with rfid gear
[06:42] <ItchyCube> anyone here
[06:43] <wizzo50> What is the best, safest Torrent finder for movies?
[06:43] <ItchyCube> or know where i might go to find ppl?
[06:43] <n2diy> ItchyCube: what kind of chat? Technical, political or what?
[06:43] <apoleo12> n2diy: if I do want that I'm on a workstation... is this possible?
[06:43] <ItchyCube> more technical
[06:43] <bazhang> !piracy > wizzo50
[06:43] <n2diy> apoleo12: yes.
[06:44] <IcemanV9> wizzo50: none and it is illegal
[06:44] <an0nmat1r> ubottu: great link :)
[06:44] <apoleo12> n2diy: so, that bein said on a workstation, it can be a server? as well?
[06:44] <bazhang> ItchyCube, related to Ubuntu? or hardware stuff
[06:44] <n2diy> ItchyCube: I try something like ham radio.
[06:45] <owen1> ctmjr: i killed X, and run startx (i use awesome window manager). i open xterm and run compiz --replace and get the same error. i also see: xterm:  bad command line option "--replace" - http://pastebin.com/m2b99384d
[06:45] <ItchyCube> more writing software for rfid gear
[06:45] <n2diy> apoleo12: Yes, a workstation can function as a server, but it won't be as effeciont as a pure server.
[06:48] <wizzo50> ubottu: I just asked a question on here.
[06:48] <wizzo50> ubottu:
[06:48] <wizzo50> ubottu: Hi
[06:48] <ctmjr> owen1: iget the no xgl error whenever i start compiz from the terminal it still works never tried awesome you might have to stop it first then just run compiz in the terminal you can also install the fusion-icon with apt
[06:49] <wizzo50> ubottu: Who is ubottu on here?
[06:49] <ctmjr> !bot | wizzo50
[06:50] <bazhang> wizzo50, its a bot; asking about pirating movies is not welcome here
[06:51] <apoleo12> n2diy: in this case how efficent enought ubuntu would be? web server? etc?
[06:51] <snape> usb joystick is not working with visual boy advance using vba express frontend, any help plz
[06:52] <n2diy> apoleo12: I don't know, but you can get server editions of Ubuntu.
[06:52] <Lynx-O> hello all
[06:52] <Jlone> apoleo12: even desktop version is fine if its just a small local web site
[06:53] <wizzo50> Does Ubuntu have a video converter on here?
[06:53] <alpua> hello guys! can somebody halp me with this error Error: "/tmp/kde-network" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. - after I run guarddog in konsole. Thankyou in advance
[06:54] <shingen> wizzo50: I bet #ubuntu-studio would know
[06:54] <apoleo12> hmmm thus give me a thought as it can be multi-booted...
[06:54] <Lynx-O> my harddrive has failed, i'm running on live, which do you all think is best? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?S
[06:54] <n2diy> alpua: why the worries, it is an /tmp directory?
[06:55] <undermydeathshow> cheeba
[06:55] <alpua> n2diy: thats right so no worries? :)
[06:55] <Jlone> alpua: i think it wants to run as root and its not
[06:56] <alpua> Jlone: i running as root
[06:56] <n2diy> why?
[06:56]  * apoleo12 perks
[06:56] <n2diy> alpua: why?
[06:57] <alpua> n2diy: i dunno :) thouth that probably wont work without root
[06:57] <n2diy> alpua: you might as well be running Windows, if you'r going to run linux as root.
[06:57] <wizzo50> Why is Linux not a 100% correct for as long as it has been out. Even before WIndows was out and there is still errors in it today?
[06:58] <mezquitale> anyone knows if you can setup a webserver on cablevision?  they have port 80 blocked
[06:58] <snape> usb joystick is not working with visual boy advance using vba express frontend, any help plz
[06:58] <ColbyIsColby> wizzo, Ubuntu is a bit more advanced than Windows.
[06:58] <eross> mezuitale - use port 8080?
[06:58] <Jlone> wizzo50: Don't know about you my friend, but it's not like Windows is error free :)
[06:58] <Flannel> wizzo50: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this question
[06:58] <Dayofswords> theres tends to be errors in everything
[06:58] <alpua> n2diy: ok ok :) gonna run wirhout root :P thankyou
[06:59] <n2diy> wizzo50: how do you figure linux is older then Windows? And why isn' Windows 100% correct?
[06:59] <mezquitale> eross, ill google that one thanks
[06:59] <n2diy> alpua: GL
[07:00] <myself> hey I primarily use Ubuntu but I want to upgrade my NTFS OS from XP to win7, does anyone know the best way to go about installing windows 7, like the installer will format my NTFS partition and i need to get grub working and all of that cause I assume it will be deleted on the NTFS partition or w/e
[07:00] <wizzo50> n2diy: I didn't say WIndows wasn't 100%. I am talking about Linux which is what most of Ubuntu is.
[07:00] <myself> should i set up the partitions beforehand btw?
[07:01] <myself> basically i still want to use Ubuntu but Iw ant to install windows 7, upgrading from XP or whateve,r anyone know a way to do this so it wont mess with my ubuntu
[07:01] <n2diy> wizzo50: ok, linux is 100% volunteer, Microsoft is 100% $$$, who should be leading?
[07:01] <alpua> n2diy: how can I see after reboot that gurddog is running? From System-Administration-System monitor is not showing nothing about guarddog
[07:01] <wizzo50> Linux was out before all you and myself were born
[07:01] <myself> linux is like mostly free, windowscosts money homie
[07:02] <myself> we live in a capitalist society
[07:02] <n2diy> alpua: try running "top" or "lsmod" in a terminal.
[07:02] <wizzo50> myself: That is why it is free
[07:02] <jussi01> !ot
[07:02] <myself> okay anyway, can someone tell me the best way to go about installing windows 7 RC next to my ubuntu partition, im sure some of you are dualbooting and have done this
[07:03] <jussi01> myself: ask in ##windows
[07:03] <mezquitale> why would you want to try windows7 rofl
[07:03] <n2diy> wizzo50: your nuts, linux came out in 1991, when I was nearly 30.
[07:03] <wizzo50> myself: Install it on a new partition of it's own
[07:03] <myself> its the release candidate, its because i play games or w/e and XP is too slow and im sick of it
[07:03] <mezquitale> myself, you usually install windows first and then ubuntu, i have XP and ubuntu on my machine, i installed windows first and then ubuntu
[07:03] <alpua> n2diy: watchdog and guarddog are the same?
[07:04] <myself> yeah but i dont want to reinstall ubuntu
[07:04] <IcemanV9> alpua: pgrep guarddog (it'll show the pid if running)
[07:04] <n2diy> alpua: don't know, never played with them.
[07:04] <apoleo12> hrm
[07:04] <snape> usb joystick is not working with visual boy advance using vba express frontend, any help plz
[07:04] <jussi01> !grub | myself - just install windows then follow this
[07:04] <alpua> IcemanV9: thankyou!
[07:04] <myself> i found a page about it actually
[07:04] <myself> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999
[07:05] <wizzo50> n2diy: Read up on it. It was out when the DOS edition was out then before you was born. RPG- machine language then with Apple and Commodore
[07:05] <wizzo50> n2diy: It just was as updated like it is today
[07:06] <ColbyIsColby> what does ubottu do anyways?
[07:06] <Nameless_au> he stalks ppl
[07:06] <ColbyIsColby> lol.
[07:06] <n2diy> wizzo50: I own the book "The accidental revolution" co-written by Linus Torvalds.
[07:06] <wizzo50> ColbyIsColby: Unottu, tries to get you into trouble
[07:06] <jussi01> !bot | ColbyIsColby
[07:07] <wizzo50> n2diy: Good!
[07:07] <ColbyIsColby> what is the whole ! before a word do?
[07:07] <jussi01> ColbyIsColby: read ubottu's usage guide ;)
[07:07] <ColbyIsColby> reading it already.
[07:07] <n2diy> wizzo50: linux went "wild" in Sept. 91
[07:07] <wizzo50> n2diy: Probably
[07:08] <jussi01> n2diy: you have been asked to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic - please do so
[07:08] <wizzo50> n2diy: Still wild today, to many undecided things in it that are more testing. That is why it is still free today
[07:09] <n2diy> jussi01, ok, first time I heard the request.
[07:10] <n2diy> jussi01, who asked me to take offtopic, and when?
[07:10] <martin__xxx> hi  ho's  there
[07:11] <Hilikus> hey guys
[07:11] <lim_> ㅗㅑ
[07:11] <lim_> hi
[07:11] <Hilikus> is there a way to have the key ring automatically work (i.e. without asking a password) when in automatic login mode?
[07:11] <solitario> #sexo
[07:11] <martin__xxx> what??
[07:12] <bitplane> itso goodo
[07:12] <mezquitale> anyone knows how i can go about getting a free domain name???
[07:12] <lim_> ㅋㅋ
[07:12] <lim_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[07:12] <apoleo12> frankpanda: root is considerably dangerous...
[07:12] <lim_> zz
[07:12] <ColbyIsColby> freedomain.co.nr
[07:12] <FloodBot1> lim_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <lim_> ㅋㅋ
[07:12] <lim_> ㅋㅋ
[07:12] <apoleo12> unless you're misleading us ;)
[07:12] <lim_> what do you want?
[07:13] <bitplane> are there some docs on how to get software into Ubuntu's package manager? I'm thinking of writing a small app that would be useful
[07:13] <n2diy> Hilikus: great question, I have the same problem, I want to automate backps, but grsync insist on my password, how can I pass it to grsync unattended?
[07:13] <dave_p> how do you check the hardware of sound card?
[07:13] <Flannel> bitplane: #ubuntu-motu is the place with all the answers to those questions
[07:13] <bitplane> thanks Flannel, I'll ask there
[07:13] <mezquitale> n2diy, ever tried unison?
[07:13] <myself> can i create a valid GRUB loader from any Ubuntu cd, I have 9.04 beta and i will need to recreate grub after installing this other OS, will that do it with regular old Jaunty?
[07:13] <n2diy> dave_p: sudo lshw
[07:14] <dave_p> n2diy
[07:14] <dave_p> ?
[07:14] <frankpanda> thanks
[07:14] <dave_p> n2diy, datails please
[07:14] <n2diy> mezquitale: no, sbackup, and backuppc beat me up.
[07:14] <owen1> is it possible to run compiz with to monitors, each running x server?
[07:15] <apoleo12> wow can a user log on here using root?
[07:15] <n2diy> dave_p: open a terminal and enter sudo lshw
[07:15] <n2diy> apoleo12: I that you were going to give up running as root!?
[07:15] <dave_p> n2diy, you mean it is the command
[07:15] <dave_p> ok
[07:15] <jussi01> !root | apoleo12
[07:15] <dave_p> thanks
[07:16] <apoleo12> n2diy: huh?
[07:16] <n2diy> dave_p: yes, you actually have to type it.
[07:16] <dave_p> yes
[07:16] <dave_p> I know that now
[07:16] <dave_p> thanks for the infor
[07:17] <n2diy> apoleo12: Sorry, confused you with alpua.
[07:17] <cc4> hi all
[07:17] <dave_p> I am using window so I guess, I need to go to window chat
[07:17] <Nameless_au> you can run as root with sudo -i, but i wouldn't reccomend it
[07:17] <dave_p> I have both window and ubuntu
[07:17] <apoleo12> ok
[07:17] <wizzo50> What is unison?
[07:17] <cc4> linux->ethernet bridge on dhcp->windows pc
[07:17] <cc4> and firestaster on ics
[07:17] <apoleo12> jussi01: why is this referenced to me??
[07:17] <cc4> what ip do windows have to take?
[07:17] <n2diy> wizzo50: I backup system.
[07:18] <cc4> 2 eth on linux
[07:18] <cc4> 1 modem and 1 lan
[07:18] <wizzo50> n2diy: How do you run it, sudo unison?
[07:18] <cc4> can anyone please help
[07:19] <wra> whats your question?
[07:19] <Nameless_au> que?
[07:19] <cc4> linux->ethernet bridge on dhcp->windows pc
[07:19] <cc4> and firestaster on ics
[07:19] <n2diy> wizzo50: Don't know, never used it, yet. I think you have to fetch it with synaptic, or apt-get.
[07:19] <cc4> what ip do windows have to take?
[07:19] <cc4> 2 eth on linux
[07:19] <cc4> 1 modem and 1 lan
[07:20] <cc4> ethernet bridge out of 1 lan with dhcp
[07:20] <cc4> with connection established
[07:20] <wizzo50> n2diy: ok
[07:20] <frankpanda> Headless server Xorg.log tells: (EE) No devices detected. Is it normal for headless? I can't remote X via XDMCP now...
[07:20] <cc4> if I put windows on dhcp it takes no ip
[07:20] <cc4> maybe the ethernet bridge needs router ip?
[07:20] <sohryu> what are the other ip's on the subnet?
[07:20] <sohryu> well
[07:21] <sohryu> what is the router's ip?
[07:21] <sohryu> on your side
[07:21] <cc4> I think I have tried it and it doesn't establish the connection
[07:21] <FloodBot1> sohryu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:21] <sohryu> not the wan side
[07:21] <cc4> gateway?
[07:21] <sohryu> ya so  what's the router's ip
[07:21] <sohryu> ya
[07:21] <cc4> 192.168.2.1
[07:21] <n2diy> frankpanda: I don't think servers have X installed?
[07:21] <Shadowtranier> o3o
[07:21] <Shadowtranier> XD
[07:21] <Nameless_au> haha FloodBot1 indeed
[07:21] <wizzo50> n2diy: I just know it is a file synchronizer
[07:21] <sohryu> then just set it to 192.168.2.2
[07:21] <cc4> what windows? or the ethernet bridge?
[07:22] <sohryu> 192.168.2.2-254
[07:22] <frankpanda> n2diy: It works before, may not work after some update ?
[07:22] <sohryu> anything in that range
[07:22] <cc4> windows or the ethernet bridge?
[07:22] <sohryu> why do you have a bridge? why not just go router-pc's
[07:22] <cc4> more than 1 windows pc
[07:22] <cc4> because I want ubuntu to firewall
[07:23] <n2diy> wizzo50: yes, and that is wha I use grsync for, I mirror this box to my test box once or twice a day.
[07:23] <cc4> 1 eth the modem and other eth to the ethernet bridge
[07:23] <cc4> gicing net to my other pcs
[07:23] <cc4> giving
[07:23] <sohryu> honestly man, if your router is running NAT
[07:23] <cc4> yeah someone else said the same
[07:23] <n2diy> frankpanda: yes, who knows?
[07:23] <sohryu> you dont really need anything more than a software firewall
[07:23] <cc4> yeah
[07:23] <cc4> software firewall
[07:23] <cc4> firestaster
[07:23] <cc4> on ubuntu
[07:24] <cc4> not good?
[07:24] <FloodBot1> cc4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <sohryu> and if youre having trouble addressing the computers on your network, then using ubuntu to run a firewall is probably above your head
[07:24] <sohryu> no offense, but it's just going to bring you  more headaches than it's worth
[07:24] <frankpanda> n2diy: try the gdm debug mode, no useful info just say can't start X, using VNC instead
[07:24] <cc4> I have not all works. but now I wanted this
[07:25] <cc4> router ip to the ethernet bridge or windows pc?
[07:25] <cc4> you said it earlier
[07:25] <n2diy> frankpanda: can you ssh into the box?
[07:25] <sohryu> anything in the range of 192.168.2.2-254
[07:25] <cc4> on the bridge as well? will it work?
[07:25] <frankpanda> n2diy:yes
[07:26] <sohryu> it should
[07:26] <sohryu> if the bridge is just forwarding
[07:26] <cc4> I think it doesn't man
[07:26] <cc4> I will try again
[07:26] <cc4> thanks
[07:26] <cc4> :)
[07:26] <FloodBot1> cc4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <cc4> oups
[07:26] <sohryu> floodbot isnt helping anything, by the way
[07:27] <n2diy> frankpanda: I'd look in /etc/X11/ for xorg.conf and see if there is an old/backup file, that you could overwrite xorg.conf with.
[07:27] <cc4> sorry. last question. will I be able to monitor all my windows activity from ubuntu with firestarter?
[07:27] <cc4> net activity
[07:28] <n2diy> cc4, have you looked in /var/logs? Everything that happens on your box is in there, somewhere.
[07:28] <wizzo50> Who you talking too cc4?
[07:28] <Nameless_au> the Internet.
[07:28] <cc4> sohtyu
[07:28] <cc4> sohryu
[07:28] <frankpanda> :) should be me
[07:29] <cc4> or anyone that knows
[07:29] <n2diy> ok, what does sohtyu mean?
[07:29] <dave_p> google it
[07:29] <wizzo50> n2diy: A persons user name on here
[07:30] <cc4> later on
[07:30] <n2diy> dave_p, ok, made a note of that.
[07:30] <cc4> thanks
[07:30] <dave_p> :)
[07:30] <apoleo12> peace Ubuntu'ers! Im outtie for the other day y'all!
[07:30] <dave_p> bye
[07:30] <frankpanda> n2diy:/var/log/gdm log show (EE) No devices detected.  /newline Fatal server error:  //newline  no screens found
[07:32] <wizzo50> What is a good program on here to use your camera with? For storing and printing the pictures off?
[07:32] <n2diy> frankpanda: ok, what do you see if you look in /etc/X11, any gdm or xorg.conf files that could replace your current ones?
[07:32] <frankpanda> n2diy: /var/log/message may have some detail information after using debug mode
[07:33] <frankpanda> n2diy:xorg.conf no backup  I show you the detail log
[07:33] <n2diy> frankpanda: could be, but log files are about as fun to read as man files.
[07:34] <frankpanda> n2diy:Jul 25 13:23:48 CentOS gdm[2157]: gdm_slave_run: Opening display :0
[07:34] <frankpanda> n2diy:Jul 25 13:23:49 CentOS gdm[2157]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[07:34] <n2diy> frankpanda: use pastebin, don't copy and paste here, or they get upset.
[07:34] <frankpanda> n2diy:Jul 25 13:23:49 CentOS gdm[2157]: term_quit: Final cleanup
[07:34] <dave_p> hey n2diy, do you have window and ubuntu?
[07:34] <frankpanda> n2diy: roger, new to irc :)
[07:35] <dave_p> who is roger
[07:35] <n2diy> dave_p: no, just Ubuntu, and Xubuntu
[07:35] <dave_p> ok, n2diy
[07:35] <n2diy> !pastebin | frankpanda
[07:35] <dave_p> I have both ubuntu and windows on my laptop
[07:36] <artillerytx> any of yall ever set up proftpd on webmin
[07:36] <dave_p> I am using window to connect to irc
[07:36] <artillerytx> ?
[07:37] <n2diy> artillerytx: recon I haven't.
[07:37] <artillerytx> n2diy: oh alright
[07:38] <IcemanV9> dave_p: you can connect to irc via ubuntu as well :-)
[07:38] <n2diy> artillerytx: why yall still playing with ftp?
[07:38] <dave_p> indeed, IcemanV9
[07:38] <artillerytx> n2diy: im using it for a web server
[07:38] <dave_p> I know that
[07:38] <dave_p> I am using window now
[07:39] <dave_p> I am trying to determine my sound card properties
[07:39] <n2diy> artillerytx: scp is more secure, I recon.
[07:39] <artillerytx> n2diy: what is this scp
[07:39] <n2diy> artillerytx: secure copy
[07:40] <Jeruvy> !scp
[07:40] <eross> !pgp
[07:40] <artillerytx> n2diy: hmm well i've always used ftp
[07:40] <n2diy> ! scp | artillerytx
[07:40] <IcemanV9> or you can use sftp
[07:40] <cooper77z> hello, following up on the dvd+r capture process with svhs, it works great, looks hi def to me on the computer, but cinelerra and my system can't handle that much info for editing :)
[07:40] <anom01y> !qt
[07:40] <frankpanda> n2diy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/232750/
[07:40] <eross> heh if a customer don't hear the buzzword PGP, they will scoff at it.
[07:40] <Hew> why does apt "reading database" take so long?
[07:41] <n2diy> frankpanda: roger, wait.
[07:41] <cooper77z> how to capture just in quicktime?
[07:41]  * aprilhare has a problem: How do I install OOo3.1.1 under Ubuntu? got OOo3.1 installed, however OOo3.1 AMD64 has a bug with Word doc tables that was fixed in 3.1.1 - I need that fix! How do I install 3.1.1 under Ubuntu?
[07:41] <IcemanV9> dave_p: lspci |grep -i audio (is that enough info?)
[07:41] <dave_p> how do you determine the sound card properties
[07:41] <dave_p> ok
[07:41] <dave_p> no
[07:41] <dave_p> not really
[07:42] <dave_p> IcemanV9, what are you talking about?
[07:42] <wizzo50> dave_p: System/Preferenced/Sound command
[07:43] <dave_p> n2diy, said in ubuntu just use the command sudo lshw
[07:43] <dave_p> ok, wizzo50, looking at it
[07:43] <cooper77z> the avi file is just too large for my system to work with
[07:43] <myself> if I need to create an Ubuntu Live CD will it work fine on a DVD if i dont have a regular CD, and also, can I use the Ubuntu Beta 9.04 CD to re-create GRUB for regular Jaunty if i need to?
[07:44] <n2diy> frankpanda: ok, makes no sense to me, maybe the folks in #xorg could help you?
[07:45] <dave_p> wizzo50, is this(System/Preferenced/Sound command) window or ubuntu? I am using window instead of ubuntu right now
[07:45] <wizzo50> dave_p: Ubuntu
[07:45] <dave_p> oh ok
[07:45] <frankpanda> n2diy: thx all the same, for it works before, I got no clue after debug
[07:45] <dave_p> I am not logon to my ubuntu, I am using window
[07:45] <n2diy> dave_p,have you tried google? :)
[07:45] <dave_p> :)
[07:46] <cooper77z> what's a decent program to convert an avi to quicktime?
[07:46] <dave_p> n2diy, I will add that to my list :)
[07:46] <n2diy> dave_p: :)
[07:47] <frankpanda> n2diy, I can't find the Xaccess config file for gdm, not under /etc/gdm?
[07:48] <JPeterson> I installed the latest Ubuntu in VMWare 6.0.4 and ethernet doesn't work, VMWare tools mounting doesn't work so sharing doesn't work or drag and drop
[07:48] <JPeterson> So how am I supposed to get it working?
[07:48] <Jeruvy> JPeterson: you may wish to ask in #vmware
[07:48] <n2diy> frankpanda: well, I can't help you, you are in over my head. I have a laptop with a similar problem to work on tomorrow, so who knows what is going to happen? Maybe tomorrow moring I'll have a clue?
[07:49] <n2diy> morning
[07:49] <wizzo50> dave_p: also you can type lspci on the terminal to identiy the primary audio device on your system
[07:50] <netlarip> n2diy: Not yet
[07:50] <n2diy> netlarip: ?
[07:51] <netlarip> n2diy: Only 11:50 here
[07:51] <jonex_> hey!
[07:51] <n2diy> netlarip: ok, it's 0651 UTC here.
[07:52] <netlarip> n2diy: Ahh ok
[07:52] <cooper77z> ubuntu is easier to work with video than you think
[07:52] <fallingbo> true
[07:52] <McAku> hi
[07:53] <cooper77z> ubuntu makes better use of cpu and ram
[07:53] <tra_> work with video?
[07:53] <cooper77z> yah
[07:53] <netlarip> ;P
[07:53] <cooper77z> I can tell
[07:53] <n2diy> netlarip: but, I'm in EDT, -4, so it is really only 0253 now.
[07:54] <artillerytx> what is the best temperature sensor program to use in terminal only
[07:55] <cooper77z> I encoded in dvd+r from svhs and the picture is pristine
[07:55] <McAku> Puhuuko joku suomea?
[07:55] <sn00zer> artillerytx: I don't know if its the best but its usable: lm_sensors + grep
[07:55] <artillerytx> sn00zer: i can use that in terminal only
[07:55] <sn00zer> yes
[07:55] <IcemanV9> artillerytx: for my laptop, i type cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
[07:56] <n2diy> artillerytx: I wonder if you could tail cmos, and have a real time display of your cpu temp?
[07:56] <nomad77> artillerytx: also hddtemp
[07:56] <artillerytx> n2diy: i just wanted to check the temp of my computer
[07:56] <dave_p> does window have an irc with 50 plus members like ubuntu?
[07:56] <pup> how do i upgrade my 32-bit hardy to 64-bit version without losing data?
[07:56] <cooper77z> my fan doesn't even activate since I installed ubuntu
[07:57] <n2diy> dave_p: #bsod?
[07:57] <dave_p> ok, n2diy
[07:57] <eross> pup - backup your data to dvd
[07:57] <cooper77z> less draw on the cpu, yes?
[07:57] <pup> eross: and install a fresh OS again?
[07:57] <eross> that's only way I know
[07:57] <cooper77z> feels cool
[07:57] <McAku> What?
[07:58] <n2diy> dave_p: do you know what bsod stand for?
[07:58] <dave_p> what is bsod? n2diy
[07:58] <cooper77z> on the power junction, to touch
[07:58] <wizzo50> Where is Device Manager on here?
[07:58] <n2diy> dave_p: the Blue Screen Of Death
[07:58] <pup> eross: there should be a better way. ok what if i upgrade to 64-bit jaunty?
[07:58] <cooper77z> it get hot at times
[07:58] <McAku> wizzo50: I don`t know
[07:58] <pup> eross: from my current 32 bit hardy?
[07:59] <myself> hey can I make a Ubuntu live CD on a DVD and have it work just as good?
[07:59] <JPeterson> Where can I download a VMWare Ubuntu image?
[07:59] <dave_p> hmm, funny n2diy...get serious about this room man/girl?
[07:59] <nomad77> myself: yes
[07:59] <eross> add a new harddrive and partition, format on that
[07:59] <eross> and leave 32-bit software on old partition or hd
[07:59] <eross> ?
[07:59] <dave_p> stop joking around people need help...n2
[07:59] <dave_p> n2diy
[07:59] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | eross
[08:00] <pup> eross: doesn't update manager give an option for OS update?
[08:00] <pup> eross: will that work?
[08:00] <artillerytx> man i can't get this ftp server to work
[08:00] <n2diy> dave_p: man, thank you. And I'm serious yall, Google BSOD and you'll have more reading then you know what to do with.
[08:00] <pup> eross: i have already got 3 OS's running, can't afford to add another one!
[08:00] <JPeterson> VMWare Ubuntu image, where?
[08:00] <McAku> I can speak finnish, english and little bit france.
[08:00] <dave_p> well, thanks anyways MAN-- n2diy
[08:00] <ortsvorsteher> JPeterson: what exactly you want to download?
[08:01] <cooper77z> power junction, you know, where the electricity plugs into a laptop?
[08:01] <JPeterson> ortsvorsteher: an Ubuntu VMWare image
[08:01] <nomad77> !fi | McAku
[08:01] <eross> what do you mean you have 3 os's running
[08:01] <pup> eross: i have already got windows xp, server, and hardy
[08:01] <ortsvorsteher> the only i know, is the following link JPeterson
[08:01] <eross> in partitions or virtual machine
[08:01] <ortsvorsteher> !download | JPeterson
[08:02] <n2diy> dave_ GL in your Ubuntu ventures, yall come back now, yere
[08:02] <McAku> OK
[08:02] <ortsvorsteher> !who
[08:02] <cooper77z> I had to remove my battery because it was causing failures
[08:02] <JPeterson> ortsvorsteher: Thanks, are you sure that's right?
[08:02] <wizzo50> Anyone know where Device Manager is on Ubuntu?
[08:02] <trollboy> where does ubuntu keep the config scripts for usb devices... like when I plug in X, and it reads the hardware id, where are the scripts for that located?
[08:03] <JPeterson> Is it a .vmdk file?
[08:03] <duckwars> somehow my netatalk server doesn't want to server my USB hard drive.  It will serve any other file besides the drive itself (including files on the USB hard drive).  It was working within the last 24 hours
[08:03] <frogzoo> artillerytx: acpitool -t ?
[08:03] <trollboy> I've got modprobe to load the driver I need, but its not seeing it still...
[08:03] <dave_p> hey n2diy, this has nothing(most notably Microsoft Windows, after encountering a critical system error which can cause the system to shut down to prevent damage) to do with my Q.
[08:03] <duckwars> any idears?
[08:03] <Jeruvy> wizzo50: try sudo lshw
[08:03] <artillerytx> frogzoo: what is that
[08:03] <cooper77z> in xp that is
[08:03] <ortsvorsteher> thats what i know JPeterson . but i dont think that there will be a vmware image. but may a link to it...
[08:03] <JPeterson> How can they not have a VMWare image?
[08:04] <dave_p> try sudo lshw as stated by n2diy early
[08:04] <plain> hey all, how do i make ls and/or grep show the path of the entries that match
[08:04] <JPeterson> It doesn't work right away
[08:04] <plain> im looknig for a file without using locate
[08:04] <cooper77z> why did my power fail with a battery even I was running on ac?
[08:04] <JPeterson> So I have to download VMWare tools, place it on an ISO, try to build it
[08:04] <n2diy> dave_p: I'm funning with you om, sorry I can't help you, but I haven't run a Windows box since Win 98.
[08:04] <JPeterson> Solve a million build errors
[08:04] <JPeterson> Without ethernet on it...
[08:04] <eross> pup - you mean 3 virtual machines running or 3 installed on a harddrive/partitions
[08:04] <JPeterson> No, I don't think so
[08:04] <dave_p> ok, n2diy..I understand
[08:05] <plain> anyone know right off?
[08:05] <frankpanda> frankpanda_, going to restart server, ignore me
[08:05] <dave_p> cool man
[08:05] <dave_p> no problem
[08:05] <cooper77z> I removed the freaken battery!
[08:05] <plain> nevermind
[08:05] <Jeruvy> JPeterson: no, you simply mount it then install it.  IF you have a current set of lib's it should work fine, if not, then it's hell.
[08:06] <cooper77z> never fails without the battery
[08:06] <arm> yun
[08:06] <cooper77z> and my battery is fine
[08:06] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | cooper77z
[08:06] <cooper77z> ok
[08:07] <cooper77z> sorry
[08:07] <cooper77z> bye for now, it's been real
[08:07] <arm> 这是怎么用的呀！
[08:08] <ortsvorsteher> !cn | arm
[08:08] <arm> OK
[08:08] <cee_cuteezz> hiiiiii
[08:11] <PSPUbuntu> hey i need some help
[08:11] <PSPUbuntu> how do i et firfox 3.5.1 on ubuntu
[08:11] <artillerytx> for some reason i can not login to my ftp server
[08:11] <Jeruvy> !ff3.5
[08:11] <PSPUbuntu> i need some mental help!!!
[08:11] <PSPUbuntu> im not jaunty#
[08:11] <PSPUbuntu> im on 9.04
[08:12] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | PSPUbuntu
[08:12] <Jeruvy> !jaunty
[08:12] <nomad77> PSPUbuntu: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[08:12] <PSPUbuntu> oh i see
[08:12] <ortsvorsteher> !details | artillerytx
[08:12] <benalink> hey all
[08:12] <bbw> Are you all virgins?
[08:12] <PSPUbuntu> i am
[08:12] <PSPUbuntu> lol
[08:13] <bbw> any one here has boobs
[08:13] <artillerytx> i just installed proftpd created a new user and am trying to access it using the localhost name and ip and it doens't work it keeps telling me login incorrect
[08:13] <pup> can i upgrade my 32 bit hardy using a 64 bit intrepid cd?
[08:13] <rww> pup: don't think so
[08:13] <bbw> or a fucking penis
[08:13] <ortsvorsteher> !ops | bbw
[08:14] <rww> !guidelines > bbw (Please see the private message from the bot)
[08:14] <PSPUbuntu> oyyyyyy!!
[08:14] <PSPUbuntu> that  sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[08:14] <PSPUbuntu> is not working
[08:14] <rww> PSPUbuntu: elaborate on "not working"?
[08:14] <PSPUbuntu> e: could not get lock /var/lib/dbkg/lock
[08:14] <bbw> hey!! rude ppl
[08:14] <benalink> Im Hey guys i am having trouble installing ubuntu
[08:15] <PSPUbuntu> resousrce tempoary unavalable
[08:15] <bbw> Flannel, What i do?
[08:15] <PSPUbuntu> bbw go home
[08:15] <bbw> and do what?
[08:15] <rww> PSPUbuntu: that means that you have apt-get or synaptic or update manager or something running somewhere else.
[08:15] <Flannel> bbw: Please tone down the content.  There's no need for that here.
[08:15] <rww> bbw: read the IRC Guidelines page ubottu sent to you.
[08:15] <PSPUbuntu> all i have is synpa runn
[08:15] <nomad77> PSPUbuntu: the program name is Shiretoko
[08:16] <rww> PSPUbuntu: you'd need to close synaptic to run apt-get commands.
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu> well it should be firefox 3.5.1
[08:16] <Flannel> PSPUbuntu: it is.
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu> no it aint
[08:16] <bbw> k k... i just wanted to see what happens if you mess here.. he he... enjoy compiz!!
[08:16] <Flannel> PSPUbuntu: does the apt command give you an error? or you have some problem afterwards?
[08:16] <benalink> when i try to install ubuntu. I pick the option to install ubuntu. And i get a command prompt like shell.
[08:16] <rww> PSPUbuntu: Shiretoko is the unofficial branding for Firefox 3.5.
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu> firefox-3.5 is already the newest version.
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu>   linux-headers-2.6.28-11 libftgl2 ffmpeg2theora
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu>   linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic blender
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[08:16] <FloodBot1> PSPUbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <PSPUbuntu> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:17] <Flannel> PSPUbuntu: Then you have firefox-3.5 already installed
[08:17] <benalink> when i try to install ubuntu. I pick the option to install ubuntu. And i get a command prompt like shell.
[08:17] <benalink> any help?
[08:17] <PSPUbuntu> but its called minefiled 3.5
[08:17] <PSPUbuntu> minefield 3.6
[08:17] <PSPUbuntu> is that it?
[08:18] <PSPUbuntu> what is minefield 3.6??
[08:19] <Chaotic_Descent> I installed the fglrx drivers for my ATI Radeon 9600 video card, and it worked once, but now every time I try to set it with gksu displayconfig-gtk , it restarts, and tells me it can't detect my video card and monitor. every time I tell it to pick Radeon and Samsung, it forgets.
[08:20] <n2diy> PSPUbuntu: click on it in synaptic, and it will tell yo!
[08:20] <n2diy> you
[08:20] <phocus> have you guys seen the nvidia drivers doing this? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14vmb0l&s I have the nvidia 8800 gts. using the  proprietary driver
[08:20] <Chaotic_Descent> It keeps defaulting to ati - somethingsomething[none of which are my video card]... [more stuff that I can't read and can't scroll to read]
[08:21] <benalink> Guys do u know what the filepath is if you want to install from unetbootin
[08:21] <benalink> like the instal filepath
[08:21] <benalink> is it still cd
[08:21] <nomad77> Chaotic_Descent: try sudo
[08:21] <benalink> someone please help me
[08:22] <Chaotic_Descent> what's gksu ?
[08:22] <ortsvorsteher> Chaotic_Descent: try "man gksu"
[08:23] <phocus> its sudo for the gui from what i can tell
[08:23] <n2diy> Chaotic_Descent: don't know, but gksudo is the command to run GUI apps as root.
[08:23] <nomad77> +1
[08:23] <PSPUbuntu> i cant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:23] <benalink> Guys please help me. I am trying to install ubuntu netbook remix with Unetbootin. I get the main install screen. choose a language and pick install and then it shows a loading screen for a while and then shows a command prompt like shell
[08:24] <benalink>                                Guys please help me. I am trying to install ubuntu netbook remix with Unetbootin. I get the main install screen. choose a language and pick install and then it shows a loading screen for a while and then shows a command prompt like shell
[08:25] <Jeruvy> !repeat > benalink
[08:25] <n2diy> benalink: relax, we here you. You're on the cutting edge here, maybe the first to try a netbook install!
[08:25] <benalink> what do u mean?
[08:25] <n2diy> *here/hear
[08:26] <Chaotic_Descent> Why do they not let me read the full text in a drop-down menu?
[08:26] <n2diy> benalink: I've never seen a netbook question here, so you are the one with experience.
[08:26] <Chaotic_Descent> Why can't I scroll sideways to read it?
[08:26] <cappiz> if i fail to authenticate in ubuntu, do i get "blocked" somehow?
[08:27] <cappiz> i cant contact my ssh server anymore
[08:27] <Flannel> cappiz: Not unless you took the time to set it up
[08:27] <frogzoo1> cappiz: not by default, no
[08:27] <cappiz> ok, strange
[08:28] <benalink> hmmm.... it says cd/<install directory> is there a diffferent directory for me as im installing off the hardrive
[08:28] <no1uknow> newbie question here, (btw loving ubuntu it rocks) if some of you linux gurus have a second
[08:28] <benalink> becooz i dont have a cd drive or usb
[08:29] <cappiz> another question - someone knows if i can have ssh users using svn but no shell access?
[08:29] <no1uknow> my client machine and server at work is behind a firewall and I need to frequently need to do work from home via ssh
[08:29] <cappiz> i tried changing to /sbin/nologin but then commit etc wont work
[08:29] <no1uknow> I setup openssh server and can login from any machine behind the firewall
[08:30] <benalink> hmmm.... it says cd/<install directory> is there a diffferent directory for me as im installing off the hardrive
[08:30] <no1uknow> how can ssh to my client machine at work that is behind the firewall from home
[08:30] <benalink> yes or no?
[08:30] <qwyeth> noluknow:  You could open a reverse tunnel with ssh -R
[08:30] <benalink> Have u tried installing some software no 1
[08:31] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[08:31] <qwyeth> noluknow: That's a command you would run on the machine you keep at work.  You could also write a short script to recreate that connection if it drops
[08:31] <no1uknow> qwyeth: so ssh to a personal server outside our network and open a tunnel?
[08:31] <benalink> hmmm.... it says cd/<install directory> is there a diffferent directory for me as im installing off the hardrive
[08:31] <qwyeth> noluknow: Yep, that's the idea
[08:31] <benalink> Guys what is the filepath for u netbootin
[08:32] <n2diy> benalink: locate should tell you.
[08:32] <no1uknow> qwyeth: thx man that would rock, googling to see if there is a tutorial out there for a script
[08:32] <benalink> is that a command
[08:33] <n2diy> sometimes, sometimes it is a prayer
[08:33] <qwyeth> noluknow: check out 'man ssh', and scroll down to read about the syntax of -R
[08:33] <benalink> locate alocate what?
[08:33] <ShapeShifter499> I have a ViewSonic V36 (I think its a v36) anyways I want to know if someone here can help or direct me somewhere that I could find info on getting linux on it
[08:33] <frankpanda> exit
[08:33] <no1uknow> kewl thx man, loving ubuntu it so rocks
[08:33] <ShapeShifter499> *viewsonic v36 pocket pc
[08:33] <n2diy> benalink: if you want to talk to me, use my nick.
[08:34] <benalink> n2idy: What do i locate for install?
[08:35] <JPeterson> 8.10, is that hardy or interpdid?
[08:35] <JPeterson> *intrepid
[08:35] <benalink> n2diy:Locate  ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img  (would that work?)
[08:36] <Ranakah> hello... anybody know how to user google chromium + flash in ubuntu jaunty?
[08:36] <Ranakah> *use
[08:36] <benalink> how do  i private message someone?
[08:36] <trollboy> benalink, you type "/msg username hi" but only if you have permission
[08:37] <n2diy> benalink: no put a / in front of it, and that has to be the exact file name.
[08:37] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo fuser -m /home/detlef/detlef2; /home/detlef/detlef2:  8978c  8980c'. What does the suffix 'c' mean?
[08:37] <benalink> so locate /ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img
[08:38] <n2diy> benalink: yes actually, you might not need the leading /, but I'm no sure.
[08:38] <frogzoo1> n2diy: you don't
[08:38] <benalink> ok thanks once i locate what command to instal?
[08:38] <ShapeShifter499> well?
[08:38] <n2diy> frogzoo1: roger, thanks.
[08:39] <PSPUbuntu> i got a problem with my ubuntu and xp
[08:39] <myself> does anyone know the steps for reinstallign grub after you've installed windows 7 and want to dualboot between an already installed Ubuntu and Windows 7?
[08:39] <benalink> n2diy: Ok what cmd do i use to install one i have located?
[08:39] <q0_0p> myself, there are forums that help you find grub
[08:39] <myself> what do you mean by that
[08:40] <q0_0p> myself, you need to pop in that ubuntu cd and find grub
[08:40] <myself> how do i do that
[08:40] <myself> im downloading ubuntu live cd now so i can do that
[08:40] <n2diy> benalink: synaptic package manager, or apt-get?
[08:40] <myself> but what exactly do i do in ubuntu cd when i load from it to make grub boot between 7 and ubuntu
[08:40] <PSPUbuntu> thiers no 1 on the chat to help??
[08:41] <Dayofswords> by any chance does ubuntu work with dailup modems?
[08:41] <purpleposeidon> Excuse me? ping archive.ubuntu.com -> 64 bytes from jackass.canonical.com
[08:44] <Dayofswords> pspubuntu: whats the issue with xp and ubuntu?
[08:44] <n2diy> purpleposeidon: did it work?
[08:44] <floating> i want to install ubuntu 9 but i have a intel grpachics conroller :( will the problem be solved on the next release in autumn ? 9.10 ?
[08:44] <purpleposeidon> n2diy: Yeah
[08:44] <n2diy> Dayofswords: what issue?
[08:45] <n2diy> purpleposeidon: good, what's the problem?
[08:45] <Dayofswords> nvm
[08:45] <PSPUbuntu> well i got 2 harddrivess....1 is 200gb, the other is 80gb, i accidentaly lost xp and installed ubuntu on the 200gb harddrive then i reinstalled xp on the 80gb harddrive now the hdd space is to less for xp
[08:45] <PSPUbuntu> and i need to like partition ubuntu to give it another 50gb
[08:45] <PSPUbuntu> but i dont want to lose my files on ubuntu
[08:45] <no1uknow> qwyeth: that worked awesome dude
[08:45] <myself> does anyone know how to re-create GRUB so  i can get into Ubuntu after installing windows 7
[08:46] <qwyeth> noluknow:  Sweet!  Glad to hear it.
[08:46] <n2diy> ! grub | myself
[08:46] <no1uknow> qwyeth: is it also possible to open up like port 80 or something and see the intranet site and so forth?
[08:47] <PSPUbuntu> myself:http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php%3Fpid%3D7&ei=YLhqSpSnMtu1sga03qiBBw&sa=X&oi=oneline_sitelinks&resnum=3&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNFKEXzxLon_jjCbZYp7KzcsQ1YsQQ
[08:47] <myself> i think its easier to do it from the livecd from what i understand
[08:47] <myself> than supergrub disk
[08:47] <Nausika> hellooo
[08:47] <Dayofswords> psubuntu: do you want xp to have 80+50 fromthe other hardrive?
[08:47] <qwyeth> Yeah ssh has a built in SOCKS proxy.  The command is ssh - D.  You specify a proxy port then point your browser to localhost:port and off you go :D
[08:47] <n2diy> noluknow, smbtree?
[08:48] <PSPUbuntu> dayofswords: yes
[08:48] <Dekko2> Good morning! Does anyone here know if there is a way to configure a default MIDI port used by ALSA....
[08:48] <PSPUbuntu> dayofswords:but i have so many files that cant be backed  up
[08:48] <PSPUbuntu> i need to partition the harddrive im guessing without losing the files
[08:49] <Dayofswords> you need some kinda of raid system or someting to have hard drive work together i beileve, idont know a thing about those though
[08:49] <n2diy> PSPUbuntu: if you are trying to recover data, don' partition anything, use a live cd to do your recovery.
[08:50] <PSPUbuntu> n2diy: i mnto trying to recover anything , i just want xp to have more space from the 200gb harddive that ubuntu is running on
[08:50] <PSPUbuntu> im not*
[08:51] <fornix> jus use gparted using live cd
[08:51] <PSPUbuntu> nooooooooo i can boot into ubuntu it works fine
[08:52] <n2diy> PSPUbuntu: ok, but if your playing with disk partitions, you better have known working backups of your files.
[08:52] <myself> HOW do I re-create GRUB loader from the UBUNTU LIVE CD after installing 666~Windows7~666
[08:52] <PSPUbuntu> i dont no wat to do
[08:52] <jafar> woah. this is trippy.
[08:52] <n2diy> ! grub | myself
[08:52] <PSPUbuntu> i just want to give xp a bit of the 200gb harddrive so it can have another place to acess memory from
[08:53] <fat_rat> !grub | myself
[08:53] <PSPUbuntu> like a backup harddrive
[08:53] <myself> can someone tell me what to do exactly
[08:53] <myself> i dunno how to do it!
[08:53] <myself> or tell me what part of the help i need to read
[08:53] <myself> b/c its complicated + im stupid
[08:54] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | myself
[08:54] <natschil> myself: I think you boot into the live cd and run grub-install /dev/sda, or whatever your hardrive is called
[08:54] <bluesea> hi
[08:54] <fornix> pspubuntu, if u r ready 4 som risk,go ahead, boot wid live cd n run gparted
[08:54] <natschil> myself: IIRC
[08:54] <josephcastle> hi bluesea
[08:54] <bluesea> hi hose
[08:54] <n2diy> PSPUbuntu: ok, do you have your stuff backed up now? If so exploce gparted.
[08:54] <myself> grub install..alright, thank you!
[08:54] <myself> what is the /dev/sda mean?
[08:54] <losher> PSPUbuntu: as long as you have unused space on your 200GB partition, you can use gparted to shrink the partition. Once you free up some space, you can make a new windows partition in the freed space and mount it as a drive in windows. The only difficulty is that resizing partitions entails some risk. One mistake and you can lose your data, so it's better to have a backup. As long as you...
[08:54] <losher> ...understand the risks, it's up to you
[08:54] <josephcastle> where are u bluesea_?
[08:55] <myself> how do i figure out what my hard drive is called natchil
[08:55] <n2diy> explore
[08:55] <natschil> myself: I think there's a dash between grub and install (grub-install)
[08:55] <natschil> myself: /dev/sda would normally be your hardrive
[08:55] <bluesea> i come from vn
[08:55] <bluesea> and you jose ??
[08:55] <myself> so i type
[08:55] <josephcastle> vn??
[08:55] <bluesea> viet nam
[08:55] <josephcastle> where is ti>
[08:55] <josephcastle> ?
[08:55] <josephcastle> it??
[08:55] <myself> grub-install /dev/sda and then what?
[08:55] <bluesea> vietnamese
[08:55] <josephcastle> aummm
[08:55] <bluesea> do you know ?
[08:55] <josephcastle> nice...
[08:55] <bluesea> and you ?
[08:55] <josephcastle> Columbia
[08:56] <bluesea> oh
[08:56] <bluesea> i know
[08:56] <bluesea> very far
[08:56] <bluesea> nice to met you
[08:56] <josephcastle> so far far...away
[08:56] <n2diy> myself:  it is grub /dev/staX
[08:56] <josephcastle> how old are u...??
[08:56] <bluesea> what is your name ??
[08:56] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I'm looking for an index.php for listing all the files in the directory/
[08:56] <bluesea> i am 25
[08:56] <PSPUbuntu> fornix:u dont get wat im saying do u?
[08:56] <josephcastle> Joseph
[08:56] <bluesea> and you ??
[08:56] <myself> i type grub /dev/staX
[08:56] <josephcastle> 24
[08:56] <bluesea> good name
[08:56] <myself> what exactly does that do n2diy
[08:56] <bluesea> joseph
[08:56] <bluesea> oh
[08:56] <bluesea> what is your job
[08:56] <FloodBot1> bluesea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:57] <josephcastle> i don-t work
[08:57] <josephcastle> i study...
[08:57] <n2diy> myself: sda is the drive, sdaX is the partition on the drive.
[08:57] <bluesea> are you a student
[08:57] <PSPUbuntu> im just gona say fuk it and risk it all
[08:57] <bluesea> me too
[08:57] <bluesea> :)
[08:57] <myself> what does that mean exactly n2diy
[08:57] <josephcastle> what is your name bluesea
[08:57] <josephcastle> ??
[08:57] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | bluesea, josephcastle
[08:57] <jafar> woop, and we're in again
[08:57] <myself> do i put something instead of X ? n2diy?
[08:57] <bluesea> my name is tan
[08:58] <josephcastle> do u have msn? yahoo.. gmail??
[08:58] <bluesea> yes i have
[08:58] <bluesea> and you
[08:58] <n2diy> myself: yes, you do, and it means you have to read and educate yourself, before you play around, learn the rules of the game.
[08:58] <josephcastle> yes...
[08:58] <jafar> I don't suppose anyone can direct me to a general chat area?
[08:58] <bluesea> have you yahoo ??
[08:58] <losher> PSPUbuntu: that's actually what I'd do too. Before you do, are there any files you absolutely, positively, cannot live without?
[08:58] <dsnyders> myself, /dev/sda is your drive.  /dev/sda1 is the first partition. /dev/sda2 the second, etc.
[08:58] <josephcastle> yes
[08:58] <myself> i see
[08:58] <ortsvorsteher> jafar: try #ubuntu-ot
[08:58] <bluesea> me too
[08:58] <bluesea> :)
[08:58] <josephcastle> i have an account in everyparte..
[08:59] <bluesea> what is your nick yahoo
[08:59] <n2diy> jafar: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:59] <bluesea> :)
[08:59] <josephcastle> josephjoecastle
[08:59] <jafar> thanks guys
[08:59] <myself> is sda seperate from sda1 or is there no sda ?
[08:59] <bluesea> tks
[08:59] <myself> just sda1 and sda 2 etc
[08:59] <josephcastle> and u?
[08:59] <bluesea> buonbuon999
[08:59] <bluesea> :)
[08:59] <bluesea> this is my nick
[08:59] <josephcastle> ok... you add me__??
[08:59] <n2diy> myself: sda1 is the first partition an drive sda.
[08:59] <losher> bluesea: josephcastle: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, support here in #ubuntu, ok?
[08:59] <myself> i see
[08:59] <dsnyders> myself, it used to be that /dev/fd was floppy, /dev/hd was IDE hard drive, and /dev/sd was SCSI
[09:00] <ortsvorsteher> i am searching for an solution of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/361615
[09:00] <bluesea> hiiiiiii
[09:00] <bluesea> you add me ??
[09:00] <bluesea> i do not online now
[09:00] <josephcastle> let me see
[09:00] <bluesea> so that you can add my nick
[09:00] <fat_rat> !offtopic | bluesea
[09:00] <dsnyders> myself, sda is the drive as a whole.  sda1 is a partiton.
[09:00] <fat_rat> !enter | bluesea
[09:00] <bluesea> ok
[09:00] <bluesea> ok ubottu
[09:00] <myself> i see
[09:01] <bluesea> !enter
[09:03] <surlaw> Hi, anyone would be kind enough to help me recover a ubuntu install, keeping vista bootloader? (I can see the grub files on the partition where I should boot, but after adding that partition to the vista boot loader, it's not lauching grub for some reason)
[09:03] <mataks> can someone help me.. everytime i start my linux i don't have a graphical login screen and it's in low resolution.. help pls..
[09:03] <josephcastle> i add u...
[09:03] <josephcastle> u can seeme
[09:03] <josephcastle> _?
[09:04] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I'm looking for an index.php for listing all the files in the directory
[09:04] <n2diy> mataks: did you ever have a working GUI?
[09:04] <dsnyders> Or an index.html
[09:05] <mataks> n2diy: i don't know im just a newbie.. i just have a fresh install
[09:06] <n2diy> mataks: so, you never had a Windows like screen, to log on to?
[09:07] <trollboy> I think I'm dangerously close to getting this driver set up.. someone care to peek at this pastebin?
[09:07] <trollboy> http://pastebin.com/m5703d5f5
[09:07] <mataks> n2diy: yep i never did.. i logon in terminal and type "startx" to have graphical and it's in always low resolution
[09:07] <josephcastle> hi somebody knows how can i open my programs that i have in WINDOWS...
[09:07] <josephcastle> i start to work in ubuntu...
[09:08] <josephcastle> but now i need to work in some programs of WINDOWS... i don't want to install it...
[09:08] <dsnyders> josephcastle, You'll need a program called wine in order to run windows programs on linux.
[09:08] <mataks> n2diy: my resolution right now is 1280x960 but everytime i restart it goes back to low resolution like 800x600
[09:08] <trollboy> Josephcastlle: look into WINE.  Start googling and go from there, its pretty great stuff
[09:08] <trollboy> brb cigarette
[09:08] <n2diy> mataks: ok, you need to ask how to reconfigure X, I don't know how to do it, but I need to know, so I'll be watching, GL.
[09:09] <TheMusicGuy> Hi, I'm looking for a SAFE way to shrink my /home partition to make room for another partition.
[09:09] <josephcastle> yeah... i have WINE
[09:09] <n2diy> mataks: actually, I believe it is reconfigure xorg.conf.
[09:09] <TheMusicGuy> Any recommended guides or tips would be appreciated.
[09:09] <n2diy> ! xorg.conf
[09:09] <josephcastle> but Wine usually not run all my programs...
[09:10] <mataks> n2diy: i already tried that but i don't know what to edit in there.. newbie here
[09:10] <dsnyders> TheMusicGuy, I'm guessing backing up, and repartitioning is out of the question?
[09:10] <TheMusicGuy> well, I don't have any good place to backup to...
[09:10] <n2diy> ! xorg.conf | mataks
[09:11] <josephcastle> WINE don't start me all my WINDOWS programs
[09:11] <josephcastle> Somebody knows if exist other method_?"
[09:11] <fat_rat> josephcastle: join #wine
[09:11] <ralf_1985> i use kde4.2 and lost my kdmrc file .. can i get it back ?
[09:12] <losher> josephcastle: that's right. Wine doesn't run all windows programs. To do that, you need virtualbox or vmware....
[09:12] <n2diy> TheMusicGuy: no usb drives?
[09:12] <dsnyders> TheMusicGuy, Spend a hundred bucks and get yourself a sizeable USB external drive.  If you're cramped for space now it will only get worse over time.
[09:12] <TheMusicGuy> dsnyders: I have plenty of space. it's just not partitioned the way I need it. :)
[09:13] <josephcastle> OPEN WINDOWS programs in UBUNTU????
[09:13] <josephcastle> ???????
[09:13] <josephcastle> >>????
[09:13] <josephcastle> HELPPPPP
[09:13] <josephcastle> MEEEEEE
[09:13] <FloodBot1> josephcastle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:13] <josephcastle> PLEASE
[09:13] <surlaw> Hi, anyone would be kind enough to help me recover a ubuntu install, while keeping vista bootloader? (I can see the grub files on the partition where I should boot, but after adding that partition to the vista boot loader, it's not lauching grub for some reason)
[09:13] <fat_rat> !caps | josephcastle
[09:14] <PolitikerNEU> josephcastle: What program do you need?
[09:14] <josephcastle> -z #ubuntu
[09:14] <losher> TheMusicGuy: you can shrink a partition as long as it has unused space in it. It's recommended to backup partitions before you play with them. If that's not practical, at least consider if there are any files you absolutely, positively, cannot live without, and back those up, just in case.
[09:15] <dsnyders> TheMusicGuy, There are repartitioning utilities that will do this safely, but I don't know them offhand.
[09:16] <josephcastle> PLEASE
[09:16] <dsnyders> TheMusicGuy, You may want to look at lvm.  It allows you to dynamically adjust partition sizes, once you've got things sorted.
[09:16] <josephcastle> ayuda por favore...
[09:16] <mataks> can someone help me everytime i start my pc i don't get a graphical logon screen.. why is that.. help pls.
[09:17] <TheMusicGuy> I know that you need to shrink the filesystem on the partition before resizing the partition itself, but I don't know the details of that.
[09:17] <n2diy> ! xorg.conf | mataks
[09:20] <trollboy> back
[09:20] <trollboy> anyone notice my driver issue?
[09:20] <trollboy> I feel I'm dangerously close to a solution
[09:21] <TheMusicGuy> There's lots of empty space on my / partition, but not enough for everything in my /home partition...I guess I could backup my vital stuff to /root and then risk resizing using risize2fs and cfdisk. but I'm sure there's some risk in doing something wrong that way.
[09:21] <TheMusicGuy> *resize2fs
[09:23] <TriMe> hey anyone here help me out i am using bareseo DVD, and i cant burn a DVD with it.... it says it has "Cannot Burn DVD Copy protected"
[09:23] <TriMe> brasero*
[09:27] <TheMusicGuy> ah crap...I think I just deleted most of my mp3 archive.
[09:27] <TheMusicGuy> that's not a good way to begin backing up data...
[09:27] <mijndert> TheMusicGuy: it sure makes your backup set a lot smaller ;-)
[09:28] <JPeterson> What? Still no drag and drop to create shortcuts in Ubuntu Gnome?
[09:28] <JPeterson> When will that be introduced, in 2109?
[09:28] <TheMusicGuy> JPeterson: try shift+ctrl+drag
[09:28] <JPeterson> TheMusicGuy: Oh, thanks :)
[09:28] <JPeterson> I'm a very leet haxxor now
[09:29] <TheMusicGuy> technically that creates a symlink, which is a little different than a shortcut, but works for most of the same purposes.
[09:30] <draeath> /boot/grub/menu.lst is no longer being handled automatically, im asked to keep or replace on kernel package manipulation now
[09:30] <draeath> any way to restore the 'automagic' function?
[09:32] <TheMusicGuy> JPeterson: come to think of it, it works for ALL the same purposes and then some. :D
[09:35] <ice_cream> lo; i believe my external hdd got damaged...makes some high pitched sounds once in a while like it is failing to read; partially shows up in messages but fails to get assigned a spot  (like   sdb: sdb1 )
[09:35] <ice_cream> i dont know if there is another way to find it and if someone could guide me how to attempt to force mount it, that'd be great
[09:35] <Leoneof> anybody used Otus for Atheros usb wireless?
[09:36] <TheMusicGuy> ice_cream: has it ever worked before?
[09:36] <ice_cream> yes
[09:36] <computer> is it possible to share ubuntu applications with windows users over a network?
[09:36] <ice_cream> it'd get assigned sdb1 or sdc1 in the past
[09:36] <O__o> hi michael
[09:37] <TheMusicGuy> then Its probably b0rked
[09:37] <O__o> michael15838, hello
[09:37] <ice_cream> f that, i want my files back =/
[09:37] <michael15838> O__o, hi
[09:37] <TheMusicGuy> take it to a professional data recovery center.
[09:37] <dandaman> i am an ubuntu newb
[09:37] <dandaman> please for the love of god i need help
[09:37]  * ice_cream nods
[09:37] <O__o> michael15838, how r u
[09:38] <dandaman> anyone want to give my conflict a shot?
[09:38] <l3dx> dandaman: step one, ask a question :)
[09:38] <dandaman> ok
[09:38] <dandaman> here we go
[09:38] <ice_cream> some rumors about extracting data w/o even mounting it yea? =P
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> ice_cream: if it really is broken, trying to "force" it to work could possibly do even more damage
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> ice_cream: you could try dd
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> but again, if its broken, even trying to read could cause damage.
[09:39] <lowlycoder> is it possible to have 'rm' put files in /tmp/trash/my-user-name? i've had too many situations where i rm something, then go "doh!"
[09:39] <Acidic32> hi
[09:39] <Acidic32> anyone help me writh crontab
[09:39] <Acidic32> 1 0 * * 7 php /root/sqlbackup/ivag-backupemail.php > /dev/null
[09:39] <JPeterson> Where do I download karmic?
[09:39] <Acidic32> would that run every sunday at 1min pas midnight?
[09:39] <Jeruvy> Acidic32: did you add it with 'sudo crontab...'?
[09:40] <Acidic32> not yet, i want to make sure that looks correct
[09:40] <DigitalKiwi> lowlycoder: yes, make an alias that makes rm do mv instead
[09:40] <dandaman> i got a virus that messed with my windows vista, got rid of the activation, i couldnt use it, blah blah blah, long story short i threw in another hd and installed ubuntu on it, im trying to salvage my old files and avoid a format so i got windows 7 release candidate which i am trying to install on my old harddrive, i try to boot from the CD and when the boot from cd comes up it just gives me the option to boot in vista
[09:40] <dandaman> basically i want to try to install windows 7 on my old hard drive through ubuntu on my new hard drive
[09:40] <JPeterson> Where do I download karmic?
[09:41] <uknow_> mybad my internet is out messin up
[09:41] <jgoo> hullo peeps, so, I see a lot of howtos for iso-> usb install generators for windows, I have 2 ubuntu systems and an osx leopard system - what is the best way for me to USB a 9.04 or a linux mint?
[09:41] <Acidic32> dandaman, wtf?
[09:41] <uknow_> can some on help me install a sis 771/671 chip set on ubuntu
[09:41] <TheMusicGuy> JPeterson: if it's not in the repos, try google.
[09:41] <dandaman> and since the iso requires iso13346 udf file system, the only thing showing up on the iso is the readme telling me that
[09:41] <Acidic32> dandaman, not possible
[09:41] <JPeterson> TheMusicGuy: I did search
[09:41] <dandaman> not possible? :(
[09:41] <Acidic32> cant install Windows 7 through linux..
[09:41] <O__o> michael15838, hi
[09:42] <dandaman> do you have any suggestions
[09:42] <l3dx> dandaman: no point in doing it either
[09:42] <dandaman> i just want to reinstall windows
[09:42] <dandaman> and i cant boot up vista
[09:42] <Acidic32> take out the linux drive, set windows drive as main drive, and try?
[09:42] <dandaman> so i cant install windows 7 through windows vista
[09:42] <l3dx> 1: rescue files with ubuntu, 2: install windows7 from dvd/usb
[09:42] <l3dx> dandaman: you'll have to boot directly from cd/dvd/usb
[09:42] <Acidic32> but yh, use mount to mount ur windows drive in linux
[09:43] <dandaman> l3dx: i did
[09:43] <dandaman> what it does is asks me to boot through vista
[09:43] <dandaman> it doesnt give me the option to install windows 7
[09:43] <uknow_> any help would be much appreciated
[09:43] <l3dx> then you don't boot windows 7 :)
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> Acidic32: you can install Win 7 through linux if you're using a VM.
[09:43] <Acidic32> dandaman, just backup your files, format the windows drive, then reinstall
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> That's what I'm in the process of doing right now.
[09:43] <dandaman> acidic: trying to avoid that
[09:43] <Acidic32> TheMusicGuy: yes but he does not want this
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> ah.
[09:44] <Acidic32> he has linux and windows on sperate drives, probably dual-boot
[09:44] <dandaman> im sure there is a way to install windows 7 without loading from vista
[09:44]  * TheMusicGuy reads scrollback
[09:44] <dandaman> ive googled a lot though
[09:44] <Acidic32> dandaman: does the Windows 7 bootup screen comeup, when you insert the disc and restart pc?
[09:44] <jgoo> all this talk of windows is getting me down :(
[09:44] <mataks> can someone help me...  i have no graphical logon screen everytime i startup my ubuntu
[09:44] <uknow_> try booting up a CD it boot befor HD
[09:44] <Acidic32> as in like the installer?
[09:44] <dandaman> Acidic32: no
[09:45] <Acidic32> then go into bios, and set CDROM as first in boot order
[09:45] <dandaman> the windows 7 boot up screen is a screen that gives you the option to boot in vista
[09:45] <dandaman> i have been booting from my dvdrom
[09:45] <Acidic32> oh
[09:45] <dandaman> its just the way they built the install
[09:45] <dandaman> they want you installing it from inside the OS
[09:45] <dandaman> which makes no sense to me
[09:45] <dandaman> god i hate microsoft
[09:46] <Acidic32> i never used windows 7 so i dont know, surely you cannot boot into a OS which does not exist?
[09:46] <Acidic32> ie blank harddrive
[09:46] <l3dx> dandaman: that's not how I experienced my win7 install :)
[09:46] <dandaman> l3dx: how'd you do it?
[09:46] <dandaman> please enlighten me
[09:46] <jgoo> anyone using linux mint with LXDE ??!?!? 0.o
[09:46] <dandaman> maybe its the virus i got that is fucking with my booting from CD, but that doesnt make too much sense because the virus would only kick in once windows loads up
[09:47] <Acidic32> mmm
[09:47] <dandaman> i swear, once i get this fixed i am only going to use windows for gaming
[09:47] <Acidic32> enlightenment
[09:47] <l3dx> dandaman: http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/ <- I used this guide to setup my usb, then I changed BIOS settings to use the usb as primary boot device. then I booted the win7 install process (without loading any OS)
[09:47] <jeffthree> after editing /etc/console-tools/config and tryiing various vga= options in /boot/grub/menu.lst is still replaced by a different font about a third of the way through boot and I must reset it with consolechars, how can i prevent this?
[09:47] <Acidic32> the best window manager for linux
[09:47] <dandaman> only have a 1 gig drive :(
[09:48] <l3dx> dandaman: though, this isn't really a windows7 support channel ;)
[09:48] <Acidic32> heh
[09:48] <Acidic32> yh
[09:48] <dandaman> i have the iso on a cd thoguh
[09:48] <dandaman> so i wont need the usb drive right?
[09:48] <Acidic32> i got windows on this laptop
[09:48] <Acidic32> only cuz i need to for work
[09:48] <Acidic32> :(
[09:48] <jgoo> dandaman, google 'iso to usb boot windows' or some shit. bye
[09:48] <l3dx> then you should set the dvd-rom as boot device
[09:48] <Dayofswords> need it how?
[09:48] <joey_> Running ubuntu 9.04 and am trying to get kaffeine to work with my tuner.  I set scan for channels and it doesn't find anything
[09:48] <Dayofswords> for like word docs and junk?
[09:48] <TheMusicGuy> dandaman: so you're saying you burned the win7 bootable iso and booted your pc into it, yet it still forces you to start the OS on your HD?
[09:49] <dandaman> TheMusicGuy: yes
[09:49] <Gnea> joey_: is your antenna up in the air?
[09:49] <TheMusicGuy> that's nuts.
[09:49] <dandaman> no shit
[09:49] <Gnea> dandaman: sounds like you didn't burn it correctly
[09:49] <TheMusicGuy> on the other hand, I hear it works well in VMs
[09:49] <fat_rat> !ohmy | dandaman
[09:49] <joey_> yeah mythtv works fine and find the channels when you do a scan
[09:49] <diddy> Why would anybody use vi instead of pico/nano?
[09:50] <dandaman> gnea: i threw the CD on another comp, worked fine
[09:50] <Gnea> diddy: because vi is better
[09:50] <kholerabbi> !dvds
[09:50] <TheMusicGuy> dandaman: then maybe the BIOS setting is wrong?
[09:50] <dandaman> didnt know about cussing, ill keep it down
[09:50] <dandaman> im going to reboot from cd and ill copy down what the screen says, brb
[09:51] <diddy> Gnea: Why is it better. pico/nano are totally intuitive whereas vi is a pain in the neck/butt, etc
[09:51] <itch_> Hello guys. I`v just upgrade my 8.10 to 9.04 and it seems that there are some issues with the repos and packages. For example, when I wanna apt-get install vlc I get an error about unmet dependencies,  and the package is not installable. Any suggestion on what might cause this ?
[09:51] <TheMusicGuy> diddy: that's only if you're new to it.
[09:51] <Gnea> diddy: pico/nano are for new users who are used to simplicity. vi is for people who require more versatility, such as programmers.
[09:51] <TheMusicGuy> diddy: vi is in many ways easier to use after its been learned.
[09:51] <dsnyders> diddy, vi was written back in the day when you accessed a mainframe over a 300 baud modem.
[09:51] <sn1per> vim?
[09:52] <Gnea> yeah, vim rocks
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> diddy: nano, on the other hand, remains limited even after learning it.
[09:52] <sn1per> hey, text editor wars:  which editor wins?
[09:52] <sn1per> THROW DOWN!
[09:52] <Gnea> sn1per: the one that gets the job done.
[09:52] <fat_rat> emacs ofcourse xD
[09:52] <Gnea> lol
[09:52] <sn1per> i learned with pico
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> emacs is great, but its bloated.
[09:52] <Gnea> i learned with joe
[09:53] <sn1per> i have been told to switch to vim
[09:53] <noble> What version of Jaunty would I use for doing install on separate partitions ?
[09:53] <uknow_> is there a command to open x config
[09:53] <TheMusicGuy> I don't even have a favorite editor. I just use whatever works for the moment.
[09:53] <Gnea> sn1per: I like vim, but if you're an emacs geek/nerd, then I wouldn't bother
[09:53] <sn1per> i am not
[09:53] <Acidic32> vim is cool
[09:53] <sn1per> lol
[09:53] <diddy> The problem is that I HAVE TO learn vi for a Linux exam. So I have no choice. Is there a better way to learn vi than to go through everything in the man page?
[09:53] <TheMusicGuy> uknow_: which xconfig util do you want?
[09:53] <Gnea> oh ok
[09:54] <Acidic32> vim for coding, nano for quick editing
[09:54] <uknow_> video
[09:54] <Acidic32> :P
[09:54] <TheMusicGuy> diddy: net tutorials.
[09:54] <Gnea> diddy: just google for "vim tutorial"
[09:54] <Dayofswords> can ubuntu use dail up modems?
[09:54] <fat_rat> true, true
[09:54] <Acidic32> vim! not vi
[09:54] <Gnea> !dialup | Dayofswords
[09:54] <Acidic32> vi is aincient
[09:55] <TheMusicGuy> I thought vi mapped to vm on modern systems?
[09:55] <Acidic32> http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html
[09:55] <Acidic32> is what i used
[09:55] <TheMusicGuy> *vim
[09:55] <Dayofswords> thanks gnea
[09:55] <Gnea> Acidic32: you'll find vi on more ancient unix systems, so good to know both
[09:55] <Acidic32> yh
[09:55] <Acidic32> i know vi/vim
[09:55] <kholerabbi> Hello I get "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file." when trying to play a DVD... any help?
[09:55] <Acidic32> been using linux since early 90s
[09:55] <Acidic32> :P
[09:55] <Acidic32> i was 9 when i started linux
[09:56] <Acidic32> infact my first pc was linux :>
[09:56] <Gnea> diddy: once you get around the whole ESC feature, you'll appreciate it a lot more
[09:56] <diddy> OK, Thx everybody.
[09:56] <TheMusicGuy> diddy: just remember, type :q  to quite, and :q!  to quite and force not saving.
[09:56] <Gnea> Acidic32: I started in the late 90's, in my late teens
[09:56] <Acidic32> :P
[09:57] <Gnea> well, more like early 20's lol
[09:57] <Acidic32> my first o/s was slackware
[09:57] <Acidic32> iirc
[09:57] <TheMusicGuy> I started with SuSE at 14 because I got fed up with WinME.
[09:57] <Gnea> I got redhat to work, finally, had tried slackware and freebsd to no avail, at the time
[09:57] <TheMusicGuy> then my HD crashed and I thought it was linux's fault, so I left it for a while. :D
[09:58] <fat_rat> 1999 Red Hat 6.1 (Cartman) :-)
[09:58] <Gnea> Redhat 4.1 :D
[09:58] <Acidic32> o_0
[09:58] <Acidic32> first redhat i used was the 4.x branch
[09:58] <Acidic32> and last..
[09:58] <sn1per> dude
[09:58] <Gnea> it was so...
[09:58] <Gnea> same here
[09:58] <sn1per> i watched  "plan 9 from outer space" last night
[09:58] <sn1per> it was so bad
[09:58] <sn1per> like,
[09:58] <TheMusicGuy> sigh...I still haven't even touched red hat.
[09:58] <Gnea> Acidic32: after about 6 months on redhat 4, i switched to slack
[09:58] <sn1per> terrible
[09:58] <FloodBot1> sn1per: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:59] <Gnea> TheMusicGuy: you're not missing much
[09:59] <Gnea> anyway
[09:59] <Gnea> let's change the topic
[09:59] <sn1per> <.<
[09:59] <Gnea> back to Ubuntu :)
[09:59] <sn1per> back to pico
[09:59] <sn1per> lol
[09:59] <TheMusicGuy> um...well, I need help with kvm.
[09:59] <fat_rat> hardy 4ever ;]
[09:59] <dsnyders> g'night all!
[10:00] <Acidic32> night
[10:00] <TheMusicGuy> Trying to install Win7 in kvm, but I have no idea where to begin.
[10:00] <Gnea> haven't used kvm, usually use vmware
[10:00] <Acidic32> kvm?
[10:00] <Acidic32> :P
[10:00] <Kennie`> vmware bugs here on 8.10 \o/
[10:00] <Acidic32> i use Vmware or Xen :P
[10:00] <TheMusicGuy> Acidic32: yeah, it makes use of kernel VM modules and VM hardware support
[10:00] <Acidic32> yh never looked into KVM
[10:00] <Kennie`> kvm is imo better then vmware server
[10:01] <Acidic32> dont you need certain processor for kvm?
[10:01] <A4Tech> Hey all! I have to netbook installed Ubuntu Net book remix. I put Empathy and when you import user accounts, I was asked to unlock the key ring. What password to enter? Password for the account is not suitable.
[10:01] <dandaman> sorry about the hold up
[10:01] <TheMusicGuy> Acidic32: my processor seems to support it
[10:01] <Gnea> theatrus: you're not the only one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7224662
[10:01] <Kennie`> Acidic32: yes - one with hardware virtualisation
[10:01] <TheMusicGuy> Acidic32: though I don;t know for sure
[10:01] <Kennie`> TheMusicGuy: what cpu you got?
[10:01] <Acidic32> figured :P
[10:01] <dandaman> so i boot from CD and i get a screen that says, "choose an os to start or press tab to select a tool"
[10:01] <TheMusicGuy> Intel Core 2 duo
[10:01] <Acidic32> i got a Q8200
[10:01] <kholerabbi> nm fixed
[10:01] <Acidic32> wonder if that has it
[10:02] <dandaman> then it gives me the option to boot from vista(or go into advanced boot options such as safe mode, etc...)
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> there's a command you can run to check, but I don't remember it off hand...its kind of lengthy
[10:02] <Acidic32> yh
[10:02] <dandaman> the only tool available is windows memory diagnostic
[10:02] <Acidic32> prolly cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:02] <dandaman> which doesnt do anything
[10:02] <Acidic32> :P
[10:02] <Gnea> dandaman: k, you should take that question to #windows
[10:03] <Greenwell> Hi guys.. I think I might have an IRQ conflict that is causing my jaunty to reboot. Anyone care to take a look at my IRQs? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135055&highlight=freeze&page=55
[10:03] <TheMusicGuy> dandaman: that doesn't sound like an intall cd, that sounds like vista recovery.
[10:03] <Acidic32> then check cpu flags
[10:03] <dandaman> its what i downloaded off microsoft for windows 7
[10:03] <Kennie`> TheMusicGuy: egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[10:03] <Gnea> Greenwell: try rebooting with the following kernel option:  pci=routeirq
[10:03] <Kennie`> vmx = intel, svm = amd
[10:03] <TheMusicGuy> dandaman: I think the CD isn't botting
[10:03] <TheMusicGuy> *booting
[10:03] <Greenwell> Thanks Gnea - can you explain what that means?
[10:03] <A4Tech> ppl
[10:03] <Gnea> dandaman: ask in #windows please
[10:04] <A4Tech> I have to netbook installed Ubuntu Net book remix. I put Empathy and when you import user accounts, I was asked to unlock the key ring. What password to enter? Password for the account is not suitable.
[10:04] <dandaman> ok...
[10:04] <Gnea> Greenwell: yeah, when your computer boots into Ubuntu, it uses a boot manager called grub.  grub reads from a configuration file, located at /boot/grub/menu.lst in which contains boot flag parameters for each items in the menu that boots automatically, by default
[10:05] <TheMusicGuy> Kennie`: I get this:
[10:05] <TheMusicGuy> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pnidtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm tpr_shadow
[10:05] <Kennie`> so it has
[10:05] <Gnea> Greenwell: so when it boots up and gives you 3 or 4 seconds to press ESC, it will take you to where you can change options temporarily
[10:05] <Greenwell> Gnea: Thanks so much
[10:05] <Greenwell> I will try it
[10:05] <CptnAwesome> is there an easy way (other then re-installing) to get back to a CLI install, with all the other crap uninstalled?
[10:05] <dandaman> barely any actives in windows :\
[10:06] <Gnea> Greenwell: or if you want to edit the file by hand, you can do that via sudo and get the same results, just add pci=routeirq  to the end of the first 'kernel' line
[10:06] <Gnea> dandaman: give it time.
[10:06] <mataks> help pls.. i have nvidia 7300gt graphic card.. where can i get the driver for my ubuntu.. anyone?
[10:06] <Greenwell> Gnea: Can you explain what that option will do for the IRQ?
[10:06] <TheMusicGuy> dandaman: you should try burning a different bootable CD and see what your PC does with it
[10:06] <Gnea> mataks: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[10:06] <dandaman> yeah im downloading vista again
[10:06] <Gnea> Greenwell: it re-routes the way the linux kernel handles IRQs
[10:07] <Gnea> dandaman: maybe you need to burn it at a slower speed
[10:07] <Greenwell> Gnea: Does it look from logs that I might indeed have such a conflict?
[10:07] <mataks> Gnea: ok thnx i'll try
[10:07] <Gnea> Greenwell: it's possible, worth a shot
[10:07] <TheMusicGuy> Is using a hard disk image rather than a /dev/sdx device file any faster when using a VM?
[10:07] <TheMusicGuy> or rather, any slower?
[10:07] <peeps> bash: ./install-nwn.sh: Permission denied
[10:07] <peeps>  <- how do i fix?
[10:08] <prince_jammys> peeps: chmod +x install-nwn.sh  to make it executable.
[10:08] <peeps> sudo?
[10:08] <TheMusicGuy> peeps: also chmod +r to make it readable.
[10:08] <Greenwell> Gnea: Thanks so much.. Loving ubuntu hope I can make it stable enough to be my main OS
[10:08] <TheMusicGuy> bash ./script.sh should not depend on the x attribute
[10:08] <anish> Heys guys!
[10:09] <Kennie`> peeps: depends, do you own the file?
[10:09] <anish> i GOT A REALLY BIG problem
[10:09] <Gnea> what is it?
[10:09] <anish> I changed my Windows Partition to Linux Swap and cant change it back to NTFS
[10:09] <koro> omg
[10:09] <Gnea> why not?
[10:09] <anish> I tried GParted
[10:10] <anish> But it doesn't show NTFS in the "Format to" options
[10:10] <blubbar> hi, is it a good way; on an ubuntu server, to add a new group admin, set my user to this group and set with visudo the group admin to: %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:AL ?
[10:10] <ortsvorsteher> is there a solution for the following bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/361615
[10:10] <TheMusicGuy> anish: is the swap device in use, and do you have permissions to access it?
[10:10] <anish> And if I format, it'll be gone...
[10:10] <CptnAwesome> anyone know of a way to strip all the packages from kubunut leaving only a basic command line system with network support?
[10:10] <peeps> whats unshield?
[10:10] <itch_> Anyone has any idea how I can fix my packages after upgrading to 9.04 ? I get a lot of error and unmet dependencies ..
[10:10] <anish> Its not in use and I dont know if I have permission to acess it
[10:10] <Kennie`> blubbar: nopasswd is scary imo
[10:10] <anish> Im on sudo in Xubuntu right now
[10:10] <anish> Im dual booting it
[10:11] <peeps> whats unshield?
[10:11] <mataks> what's the command in terminal to restart?
[10:11] <anish> I tried to get my Flash Drive to become a Linux Swap and instead turned my Windows Partition into a Linux swap
[10:11] <Kennie`> mataks: restart your machine? sudo reboot should do
[10:11] <TheMusicGuy> CptnAwesome: if you uninstall the X windowing system, all X programs will probably be uninstalled as well. that's my best guess.
[10:11] <anish> There's your answer MusicGuy
[10:11] <blubbar> Kennie`: what would be a better visudo option?
[10:11] <mataks> Kennie`,  ok thnx
[10:11] <nichlas> PPTP VPN: Is it true that pptpd requires an external ip for each client that is logged on?
[10:12]  * TheMusicGuy is trying to answer too many questions at once...getting confused
[10:12] <Gnea> anish: forget gparted, open a terminal and use fdisk
[10:12] <Kennie`> blubbar: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:12] <Gnea> TheMusicGuy: it helps to pace yourself
[10:12] <anish> Gnea: isk what?
[10:12] <anish> Gnea: fdisk what?
[10:12] <anish> Command/
[10:12] <peeps> What is unshield?
[10:12] <Gnea> anish: on the hard drive
[10:13] <blubbar> Kennie`: o.k. thanks; why on is on an ubuntu server 9.04 no admin group? don't unterstand this :)
[10:13] <Greenwell>  VERIFY REGISTER Greenwell hedcggrrlekq
[10:13] <Kennie`> dunno, should be there by default i guess..
[10:13] <TheMusicGuy> anish: well first of all, using a flash drive as a swap device is a really good way to wear down your flash drive really fast.
[10:13] <anish> The Music Guy: ouch... so I shouldn't
[10:14] <TheMusicGuy> that's true of all flash-based storage devices.
[10:14] <anish> Gnea: I tired fdisk /dev/sda1 and it says unable to open
[10:14] <Kennie`> anish: fdisk /dev/sda
[10:14] <Gnea> anish: right, sda1 is a partition, sda is the hard disk itself
[10:14] <Kennie`> /dev/sda1 is a partition
[10:14] <acke> Anish: tried sudo fdisk?
[10:14] <anish> Oh ops no
[10:15] <Gnea> anish: from there you can change the partition TYPE back to 7
[10:15] <TheMusicGuy> cfdisk is somewhat more intuitive if you're new to paritioning
[10:15] <anish> OK How?
[10:15] <blubbar> Kennie`: ah maybe the hosting company changed it, could be .. thanks man!
[10:15] <anish> Whats the command/
[10:15] <anish> Its telling me -
[10:15] <Kennie`> blubbar: np
[10:15] <acke> sudo fdisk -l?
[10:16] <Kennie`> anish: are you in fdisk? h or m (dunno which) should give you a menu - somewhere it says change partition type
[10:16] <Gnea> anish: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:16] <ortsvorsteher> i try to make an usb flashdisk installation and dont know if "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/LiveUSB --no-floppy /dev/sda1" copys me grub to flashdrive
[10:16] <Gnea> anish: read the help from within, follow it.
[10:17] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: are you following a guide on this?
[10:17] <anish> The number of cylinders in this disk is set to 28657. There is nothing wrong with that but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with software that runs at boot time (e.g. Old versions of LILO) or booting and partitioning software )e.g. DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK
[10:17] <Gnea> anish: irrelevent.
[10:17] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: yes. but i am not sure, that this will not destroy any data on my pc
[10:18] <Gnea> anish: look for the option to show the partitions, then find the option to change the partition type for the partition you need to change it on
[10:18] <LexLuth0r> when I try to set permissions it  errors /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/ Operation not permitted
[10:18] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: what the url?
[10:18] <LexLuth0r> chmod a+rwx /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/
[10:18] <anish> Its t
[10:19] <CptnAwesome> would apt-get remove xorg be enough to ditch the x system and any programs that depend on it?
[10:19] <LexLuth0r> Is this correct, Linux newbie
[10:19] <Gnea> LexLuth0r: you have to run it through sudo
[10:19] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: you can read and understand german? :) http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Live-USB_-_persistente_Installation#Formatierung
[10:19] <LexLuth0r> what would I type?
[10:19] <mataks> help pls.. i just activate the driver for my video card. . now how can i set it to high resolution?
[10:19] <anish> When I type t however, it only gives me option to turn it into FAT 12, XENIX root, XENIX user or FAT 16 <32M
[10:19] <anish> Thats, 1 , 2, 3, or 4
[10:20] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: I can! Thanks to google :D
[10:20] <moymoy> !xorg
[10:20] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[10:20] <cooper77z> how do I make everything smaller on the screen?
[10:20] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: i am at section Variante 1: Grub
[10:20] <anish> OKChanged to NTFS
[10:21] <anish> Should work now
[10:21] <anish> BRB]
[10:21] <Spykemcc> could someone help me compile a source, freedroidrpg the only linux game i like so far ...
[10:21] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: you will set the resolution of display?
[10:21] <Spykemcc> I want the latest version cause of massive updates in it ...
[10:22] <cooper77z> my menus are too big, ortsvorsteher, and I can't see the bottom part of the menus
[10:22] <TheMusicGuy> Does anyone know if there's any real benefit to using a real hard drive partition instead of a disk image when using a VM?
[10:22] <TheMusicGuy> I.e. is it any faster?
[10:22] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: I think you want /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1
[10:22] <LexLuth0r> how bloody hard can it be to  set permissions to folder
[10:22] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: there can be, however for most home users, no
[10:23] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: the documentation wants to make an boot dir on the stick. so i think i must give him /dev/sda1 where my /boot is...
[10:23] <Gnea> LexLuth0r: I told you, you need to use it with sudo.  just run it like this:  sudo chmod yada yada
[10:23] <TheMusicGuy> ok...then I guess there's no real need for me to resize my /home partition.
[10:23] <LexLuth0r> Let me try it
[10:23] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: in most senarios the virtual file system on a file will be faster
[10:23] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: try system, system settings and change your screen resolution. which one is set now?
[10:23] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: maybe i'm wrong?
[10:23] <TheMusicGuy> Really? o_O
[10:23] <Spykemcc> someone can help me compile that game please ?
[10:24] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: yes, as the OS manages the indexs/inodes in ram, rather than on the actual spingles
[10:24] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: im not sure, i thin it will make a copy of my local /boot. thats why im asking here ...
[10:24] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: nope, I'm right.  /dev/sda should be the install_device
[10:24] <TheMusicGuy> ikonia: I'm trying to install Win 7 beta in a VM
[10:24] <Gnea> ortsvorsteher: man grub-install
[10:24] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: (for home use, enterprise level stuff won't be as quick)
[10:24] <TheMusicGuy> ikonia: I hear it works pretty well
[10:24] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: I'm sure it will
[10:24] <cooper77z> 1024x768
[10:24] <ortsvorsteher> i try Gnea
[10:25] <TheMusicGuy> ikonia: do you know where I can get a jumpstart with kvm? My processor already has support; I checked
[10:25] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: a jumpstart ?
[10:25] <TheMusicGuy> An intro/tutorial
[10:25] <cooper77z> what should I change it to? I had a big prob in fedora with this
[10:26] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: and which resolution your screen can?
[10:26] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: the kvm website, the ubuntu wiki ?
[10:26] <ortsvorsteher> !who | cooper77z
[10:26] <cooper77z> unknown
[10:26] <Spykemcc> hey I tried almost everything that source install text is badly explained ...
[10:26] <ortsvorsteher> may you know which resolution your screen can? cooper77z
[10:26] <ikonia> Spykemcc: what are you trying to build ?
[10:26] <TheMusicGuy> ikonia: well, I've been going around trying to figure out the exact setup I need for Jaunty, and I keep getting told different things
[10:26] <Spykemcc> freedroidrpg game
[10:26] <greeco> hi
[10:27] <ikonia> TheMusicGuy: the ubuntu wiki has setup information
[10:27] <cooper77z> ortsvorsteher, I'll try a higher resolution, trying...
[10:27] <greeco> I have a problem with firefox..
[10:27] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: just look in the specifications for your monitor at first
[10:27] <Spykemcc> the repository one is way too old, my saves won't work with the new version also
[10:28] <anish> Guys
[10:28] <anish> Not working
 how to find monitor specs/
[10:28] <anish> Still showing Linux swap and whenever I try booting windows it gives me an error
[10:28] <TopoMorto> some has experience in installing linux on a  Apple MacBook MB466T/A? i need a new notebook..
[10:28] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: search the web. which monitor you have, you see it or not?
[10:28] <ikonia> SkywaIker: contact the support information on http://freedroid.sourceforge.net/download.php
[10:29] <greeco> I have this problem with firefox that it wont find any sites on the internet, but I know I got internet checked with my text browser lynx that worked like a charm anybody has any ideas ?
[10:29] <ikonia> SkywaIker: sorry - that wasn't for you
[10:29] <ikonia> Spykemcc: http://freedroid.sourceforge.net/contact.php
[10:30] <ortsvorsteher> Gnea: it was the /dev/sdb1 , it meant the drive himself :)
[10:30] <Spykemcc> that don't help at all ...
[10:30] <ikonia> Spykemcc: yes it does, it shows you where the support resources are
[10:31] <TheMusicGuy> Can kvm be set up to run guest machines in their own X sessions?
[10:31] <Spykemcc> with help like that, I don't need foes ...
[10:31] <cooper77z> <ortsvorsteher, it's a 14.1-inch XGA
[10:31] <anish> Well, any ideas on how to make Lin?ux Swap into my original Windows partition
[10:31] <ikonia> Spykemcc: it has the support mailing list and the official support IRC channel, as well as the maintainer's contact information - why can you not use that help,
[10:31] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: you are on an laptop?
[10:31] <cooper77z> yes
[10:31] <ikonia> Spykemcc: #ubuntu is not responsible for that package
[10:31] <ortsvorsteher> !details | cooper77z
[10:32] <hxc__> can some1 please tell me some cool rar/zip/tar file archivator?
[10:32] <hxc__> graphic
[10:32] <anish> I made my Vista partition into a Linux swap partition by mistake and now I have 219 GB of Linux SWAP!
[10:32] <ortsvorsteher> it would be easier to know before what exactly you need cooper77z, i am not sitting at your desk and see whats up...
[10:32] <ikonia> anish: use fisk to change the partition type, but if you have changed the data, it's gone
[10:32] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: on which laptop you are? you have a manual for this laptop?
,  many of the programs that I run have the bottom part of the menus cut off, it's a dell inspiron 1000
[10:33] <TheMusicGuy> anish: use cfdisk /dev/sda  and locate the partition. Use the [Type] option to select a filesystem type.
[10:34] <ortsvorsteher> cooper77z: so search the web for the possible resolution of your screen and try to set it.
[10:34] <TheMusicGuy> anish: make sure the partition IS NOT MOUNTED.
 Ok thanks, I will.
[10:34] <TheMusicGuy> look for ntfs among the options that [Type] gives.
[10:35] <emanux> how can i force check my ubuntu filesystem?
[10:35] <anish> How can I unmount a partition?
[10:35] <TheMusicGuy> umount /dev/sdaN
[10:35] <mataks> can someone help pls.. newbie here.. just have a fresh install in ubuntu and i don't have a sound.. how to install audio driver?
[10:35] <TheMusicGuy> where N is the partition number
[10:35] <anish> CFDISK shows me a FATAL ERROR cannot open disk drive. Press any key to exit cfdisk
[10:35] <TheMusicGuy> you need root permissions.
[10:35] <TheMusicGuy> sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[10:36] <anish>  FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends after end-of-disk
[10:36] <anish>                          Press any key to exit cfdisk
[10:36] <emanux> mataks: need update your drivers sources
[10:36] <TheMusicGuy> anish: you need /dev/sda, not /dev/sdaN
[10:36] <mataks> emanux, how? new to linux here..
[10:36] <anish> I used dev/sda1
[10:36] <TheMusicGuy> no, just /dev/sda
[10:36] <anish> OK
[10:36] <Threetimes> Hi, I just installed IE7 (http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/applications/ie-7-on-linux-with-wine.html). How do I start this? wine /home/peter/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Internet\ Explorer/iexplore.exe starts gecko.
[10:36] <anish> Done
[10:36] <anish> It shows me a table
[10:37] <TheMusicGuy> yes.
 it's set right at 1024 x 768
[10:37] <valberg> hi! i've just built a computer which has a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 CPU, and i was wondering if I should choose the 64-bit release of ubuntu to install on it, or just the regular? (note I have 8GB of RAM as well)
[10:37] <libtech> valberg: 64bit
[10:37] <TheMusicGuy> anish: before you do anything else, what does df say?
[10:37] <syntax> whats the best way to uninstall firefox on ubuntu abd reinstall the newest version of firefox
[10:37] <l3dx> valberg: unless you are going to sell 4gb of you RAM :)
[10:37] <Threetimes> !ff35 | syntax
[10:38] <valberg> libtech: there aren't any difficulties with it? (it kinda bothers me that it says amd64 in the name of the iso :P)
[10:38] <TheMusicGuy> anish: actually, what does mount (by itself) say?
[10:38] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:38] <aLeSD> what application could I use to change the compression of a video ?
[10:38] <aLeSD> mov -> avi
[10:38] <uknow> can some one help me with a sis 771/671 video chipset
[10:38] <Guest50400> there is one
[10:38] <anish> No im in a chart thingy
[10:39] <DrNick_> can't remember name
[10:39] <anish> NOW it shows that /dev/sda1 is NTFS
[10:39] <Threetimes> Hi, I just installed IE7 (http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/applications/ie-7-on-linux-with-wine.html). How do I start this? wine /home/peter/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Internet\ Explorer/iexplore.exe starts gecko.
[10:39] <anish> But GParted shows that it's linux-swap
 I think you can use vlc, but I am not sure cause I can't see all the menus on my screen
[10:39] <TheMusicGuy> anish: um...that's odd.
[10:40] <TheMusicGuy> anish: can you copy the terminal's text to a pastebin and show it to me?
[10:40] <anish> In a moment
[10:40] <anish> wait now Gparted shows /dev/sda1 with a Yellow ! Triangle and Unkown text
[10:40] <l3dx> aLeSD: I believe you can use avidemux
[10:41] <TheMusicGuy> anish: I don't really know anything about gparted, sorry
[10:41] <anish> Oh ok...
[10:41] <TheMusicGuy> cfdisk works well enough that I've never had to use anything else
[10:42] <anish> BRB
[10:44] <Ex2> hello
[10:44] <aLeSD> thanks
[10:44] <cooper77z> how can I make everything on my screen smaller?
[10:45] <stefg> cooper77z: step back 3 ft.l ?
[10:45] <cooper77z> funny
[10:45] <Ex2> im new to linux and need help with root
[10:45] <TheMusicGuy> cooper77z: increase the screen resolution, or lower the font size?
[10:45] <cooper77z> it's at the most, themusicguy
[10:45] <TheMusicGuy> which is what?
[10:46] <cooper77z> how to lower font size themusicguy?
[10:46] <ikonia> Ex2: what's the problem
[10:46] <cooper77z> will that affect menu size, themusicguy?
[10:47] <TheMusicGuy> cooper77z: from the Gnome menu, System->preferences->Appearence
[10:47] <koltroll> Last night my 1000he (running ubuntu nbr) went into suspend mode. It hang up and I had to do a hard reboot. After that I have no wireless interface. It's all gone. Spent hell of a time googling, reading about similar problems.. but no luck. All help is greatly appreciated.
[10:47] <TheMusicGuy> cooper77z: clicks the 'fonts' tab
[10:47] <cooper77z> trying, themusicguy...
[10:47] <koltroll> I was here wining for a good 1.5h last night as well.
[10:48] <BiggBoss> hello. one question: I runned this cmd (sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk). It says me java is his latest version and when i type java -version it says me no such file or direcotry
[10:48] <stefg> koltroll: is there any hardwaee switch for the wireless? (even on hotkeys like Fn+F2)
[10:48] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: type java and hit TAB once or twice
[10:49] <cooper77z> hey, themusicguy should I increase, decrease, or leave alone font rendering?
[10:49] <TheMusicGuy> cooper77z: rendering scheme is optional. use whatever looks best.
[10:49] <koltroll> Stefg, yes there is. and it is fn+f2. And I have tried that. It flashes "Network radio off", I press it again and get a "Network radio on". ATM I'm using a wireless usb-card, and it got affected by the fn+f2. But not the internal wcard.
[10:50] <cooper77z> themusicguy, but what will make everything smaller higher numbers or lower?
[10:50] <DrNick_> is this also the chan' for server stuff? or is there a seperate channel for that
[10:50] <BiggBoss> TheMusicGuy i did and i got some .directories and files
[10:50] <TheMusicGuy> cooper77z: smaller numbers
[10:51] <Flannel> DrNick_: this channel will work fine.  We do also have #ubuntu-server though
[10:51] <stefg> koltroll: so the standard troubleshooting routine would involve reading dmesg and iwconfig ... if you can't interpret that, you might paste it to pastebin to let us have a look
[10:51] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: what does    ls /usr/bin | grep java  say?
[10:52] <cooper77z> themusicguy, that didn't help with menu size, but fonts are smaller
[10:52] <BiggBoss> javac, javadoc, javah, javap
[10:52] <koltroll> stefg, yes I've looking through dmesg like a crazy one. But I'm not sure what to look after. =) I'll gladly make a paste if you have the time to look. Gimme 10 seconds.
[10:52] <philipp__> how can i overwrite a data with 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
[10:53] <DrNick_> thanks.  does anyone have good experiences of running ubuntu server on fujitsu hardware? in particular the Primergy RX200 series?
[10:53] <stefg> philipp__: man dd
[10:53] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: huh. so the compiler is there, but the runner is not?
[10:53] <philipp__> stefg come on
[10:53] <BiggBoss> no, theres no java
[10:54] <stefg> philipp__: dd if=dev/zero of=/file/to/nuke
[10:54] <philipp__> stefg the police is knocking on my door and i wanna delite all evidence of my downloads
[10:54] <philipp__> thx
[10:54] <BiggBoss> im trying to use sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[10:54] <stefg> philipp__: dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/to/nuke ... note the slash
[10:54] <BiggBoss> but nothings get download/installed
[10:54] <DrNick_> only i tried a few releases ago, and whilst it picked up the disk controllers OK, it struggled with the Broadcom Fibre card
[10:55] <philipp__> stefg thx
[10:55] <cooper77z> how do I get rid of the program bar at the bottom of gnome?
[10:55] <stefg> philipp__: but read about count and bs parameters
[10:56] <enovativ> i am trying to install LMMS, and ./configure is not working....what is this "cmake" thing ?
[10:56] <koltroll> stefg, ehr. Any tip on a pastebin that can handle the whole output from dmesg?
[10:56] <enovativ> LMMS is suggesting I use "cmake"
[10:57] <anachronik> does a pb dl on miro can be read by any players and generally treated like an independant file? be burned an such?
[10:57] <anachronik> or reuploaded into other tracker?
[10:57] <koltroll> uh never mind
[10:57] <enovativ> also can i plug a midi controller up and us LMMS ?
[10:57] <BiggBoss> any clue what can i do to properly get jdk :/?
[10:57] <stefg> koltroll: it's the terminal buffer which isn't large enough... dmesg > output.txt ... then open output.txt and paste that
[10:57] <TheMusicGuy> !java
[10:57] <BiggBoss> ye, i followed that
[10:57] <BiggBoss> the ubuntu documentation
[10:58] <zekele> yep everybody
[10:58] <TheMusicGuy> ok...still looking for answers here
[10:58] <philipp__> stefg after that i have a file who are the 0s right?
[10:58] <koltroll> stefg, nah I had change the buffer tho I ctrl+a only copied the view port :)
[10:58] <cooper77z> yes, themusicguy, how do I get rid of the program bar at the bottom of gnome?
[10:58] <TheMusicGuy> the windows list you mean?
[10:59] <ortsvorsteher> i try to use skype. but i found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/361615 Anyone knows a solution for this bug?
[10:59] <stefg> philipp__: yes, but limit the size by count=xxx and speed up things by using a bs=xxx paramter
[10:59] <koltroll> Allrighty. Here's my output from ifconfig, iwconfig and dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m259c53f1
[10:59] <koltroll> stefg ^
[10:59] <cooper77z> themusicguy, no its got a return to desktop icon 3 programs running, 2 squares for alternate desktops and a trashcan
[11:00] <stefg> philipp__: dd if=/dev/zero of=zerofile count=10 bs=1M will give you a 10M file of zeros
[11:00] <enovativ> cooper77z: do you mean the dock bar ?
[11:00] <cooper77z> I think so enovativ
[11:00] <enovativ> cooper77z: sudo apt-get remove gnome-do
[11:01] <philipp__> stefg... but he still overwrite the entire file?
[11:01] <enovativ> i am trying to install LMMS, and ./configure is not working....what is this "cmake" thing ?
[11:01] <enovativ> LMMS is suggesting I use "cmake"
 cooper77z: sudo apt-get remove gnome-do n**** but will that remove my gui?
[11:01] <ortsvorsteher> anytime i start skype, i get: ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1569:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) i have found an bug recorded: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/361615 but i searching for an solution of this bug. is there any?
[11:01] <Johny> cooper77z, why do you need to remove gui?
[11:02] <stefg> philipp__: a simple delete is sufficient on an ext3 filesystem :-)
 cooper77z, why do you need to remove gui? I don't!
[11:02] <Guest14111> i aew pessoal
[11:02] <dandaman> it was the goddamn dvd-rom
[11:02] <stefg> koltroll: hmmm.... actually it looks like you have wlan... but tht's the USB stick, right?
[11:02] <dandaman> i used another dvd-rom and it worked
[11:02] <dandaman> god i hate my life
[11:02] <koltroll> stefg, yea right
[11:03] <koltroll> stefg, wlan0 and wmaster == usb stick
[11:03] <philipp__> stefg if i simply delite them... the poppos could recover them.... couldn't they?
[11:04] <cooper77z> I need to remove the dock bar because it is interfering with program menus
[11:04] <cooper77z> not the whole gui
[11:04] <BiggBoss> hmm why when i use
[11:04] <BiggBoss> sudo update-alternatives -install "/usr/bin/java" "java" "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java" 1
[11:04] <stefg> koltroll: could you run lspci and paste that, too? otherwise it's quite confusing
[11:05] <koltroll> will do
[11:05] <cooper77z> themusicguy, will your command just remove the dock bar?
[11:05] <BiggBoss> it says me argument -install unknown
[11:05] <Johny> cooper77z, gnome do is app launcher and has no connection to the gui
[11:05] <stefg> philipp__: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[11:05] <philipp__> stefg.... i have picture of my naked girlfriend there who i wanna delite so that they couldnt be recovered
[11:05] <dew> hey having trouble installing ubuntu dual boot xp with wubi. Keep getting to grub menu then selecting ubuntu followed by this error windows failed to start.  windows system32 hal.dll. help
[11:05] <TheMusicGuy> cooper77z: I was just going to tell you to right-click and remove whatever it was
[11:06] <koltroll> stefg, http://pastebin.com/m3ed1d899 - lspcie output
[11:06] <koltroll> -e
[11:06] <Taft_Punk> Can someone help me install xulrunner/chatzilla on ubuntu?
[11:06] <cooper77z> it's gone themusicguy, thanks
[11:06] <TheMusicGuy> your welcome
[11:07] <stefg> koltroll: hmmm... no wireless in sight .. lsusb ?
[11:07] <Johny> Taft_Punk, i think this may help -- http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-299991.html
[11:07] <Taft_Punk> thanks!
[11:07] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: you need to use --install, I think, not -install
[11:07] <Johny> Taft_Punk, np
[11:07] <stefg> koltroll: it seems to me the wireless is simply switched off hardwarewise
[11:07] <koltroll> stefg, http://pastebin.com/m660f12eb
[11:08] <Jombo> someone should mkick this place lol
[11:08] <cooper77z> all menus visable, hurray!
[11:08] <cooper77z> bye bye
[11:08] <koltroll> stefg, :/ the chance that it has broken really must be absolutely -minimal- right?
[11:08] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: most of the time, whole-word command line options are prefixed with a -- (two hyphens) and single letter options with - (one hyphen)
[11:08] <stefg> koltroll: the internal wlan chip isn't simply there...
[11:08] <TheMusicGuy> there are excpetions, of course
[11:08] <koltroll> no you're right
[11:09] <koltroll> Perhaps I can find something in bios (??)
[11:09] <BiggBoss> ye, i finally got it
[11:09] <BiggBoss> i setted to use java from java-6-openjdk
[11:10] <BiggBoss> but i still type java -version and nothing :/
[11:10] <mataks> help pls i have a fresn install of ubuntu and i don't have sounds yet. how to install audio card driver?
[11:10] <philipp__> stefg so its possible to recover
[11:11] <philipp__> stefg unless i overwrite the free space with zeros
[11:11] <Johny> mataks, you dont have NO sound? even at the system launch?
[11:11] <BiggBoss> so, does someone know how can i install jdk in ubuntu 8.10? i have spend 2 days and still couldnt get it
[11:12] <Johny> BiggBoss, interpid?
[11:12] <stefg> philipp__: what I'm trying to tell you is: there is no way you can be sure that athe same blocks are used on a ext3 filesystem... you might rwrite the file, but /different/ blocks could be used, so you're not overwriting it, you just chnage the associated blocks
[11:12] <BiggBoss> ubuntu 8.10 server x64
[11:12] <mataks> Johny,  yeah i don't have sound.. but in my vista i have sound..
[11:13] <Johny> mataks, what sound card u have?
[11:13] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: you installed the package openjdk-6-jre?
[11:14] <BiggBoss> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk --> i used this first
[11:14] <koltroll> stefg, I'll take a look in bios. Will be back soon enough. Thanks a bunch for your help and for helping me narrow the problem down
[11:14] <Johny> BiggBoss, apt-get install sun-java6-jre ?? lol
[11:14] <mataks> i don't know exactly the model but it's a realtek
[11:14] <Myrtti> BiggBoss: do you specifically want Sun JDK?
[11:14] <Johny> BiggBoss, VOOPS! sry wrong answer
[11:14] <pisse> Hi! I'm creating a shared folder called "upload" on my server where all users are supposed to be able to create folders and upload files. The problem is when someone creates a folder I get wrong permissions, can I somehow make all folders exacutable and all files readable? I mount the upload partition with fstab so I was thinking fmode and dmode should work but I'm not sure where to write it? And will this work? =)
[11:14] <BiggBoss> yes Myrtti
[11:14] <BiggBoss> i need jdk
[11:14] <BiggBoss> jre is not enough
[11:15] <jrib> pisse: what filesystem?
[11:15] <pisse> jrib: ext3
[11:15] <Myrtti> BiggBoss: "sun-java6-jdk" is what you're looking for then
[11:15] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: on my system, java is linked to /etc/alternatives/java, which is further linked to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[11:15] <Johny> BiggBoss, wont you try sinaptic?
[11:15] <BiggBoss> it says me sun-java6-jsk is alredy on is most recent version
[11:16] <BiggBoss> what is sinaptic?
[11:16] <jrib> pisse: do such mount options exist?  I don't believe so.  How is the uploading happening scp?
[11:16] <philipp__> stefg but if i delite it and overwrite the free space after that all blocks are delited
[11:16] <TheMusicGuy> Johny: synaptic, not sinaptic
[11:16] <stefg> philipp__: right
[11:16] <Johny> TheMusicGuy, my bad.. maybe
[11:16] <BiggBoss> what is it?
[11:16] <Johny> BiggBoss, it's an package installer
[11:16] <pisse> jrib: I googled it here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/mount-shared-folder-with-fstab-need-help-519906/page2.html but he's not using fstab =/
[11:17] <BiggBoss> oh, im seeing it
[11:17] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: the main graphical package manager for Ubuntu
[11:17] <pisse> jrib: yes, scp only for now.. gonna add ftp though
[11:17] <BiggBoss> ye, i tried, but i cannot launch it
[11:17] <BiggBoss> i tried to follow a guide, but it says me to go system/adminsitration/...
[11:17] <BiggBoss> and i dont see such folders
[11:17] <Johny> BiggBoss, then compile jdk urself
[11:17] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: those aren't folders. those are options from the gnome menu.
[11:18] <philipp__> stefg and to do that i have to replace of=/file/to/nuk ?
[11:18] <Taft_Punk> So how would I change the icon of Chatzilla to the CZ icon?
[11:18] <BiggBoss> i have synaptic here
[11:18] <peabody> I'm trying to login to a remote site via ssh certificates, and I ran ssh-agent, then ssh-add to the private keyfile.. the remote server is already setup for the certificate.. but when I try ssh remotehost it is asking me for a password, and passwords are disabled on the remote host so I can't authenticate... why isn't ssh using the certificate to login?
[11:18] <BiggBoss> how can i launch it?
[11:18] <TheMusicGuy> click the icon, or type gksudo synaptic
[11:19] <Johny> BiggBoss, then search for what package ur asking and try to install
[11:19] <Johny> BiggBoss, it have to work
[11:19] <jrib> pisse: right, that link seems to be discussing samba.  With ftp you probably have similar options you can set in the configuration options for the ftpd you use.  Your options with ssh/scp afaik are to either change user's umask and set the folder setgid (so contents inherits group ownership) or use Access Control Lists (ACLs).  For ACLs see « man getfacl » and « man setfacl » as well as the "acl" option
[11:19] <jrib>  in « man mount » that you need to enable
[11:19] <stefg> philipp__: http://lambda-diode.com/software/wipe
[11:20] <BiggBoss> i alredy downloaded jdk for linux x64
[11:20] <BiggBoss> a .bin file
[11:20] <BiggBoss> but i cannot execute it
[11:20] <Edico_> hi
[11:20] <jrib> BiggBoss: why are you not using the repositories?
[11:20] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: from the sun website you mean?
[11:20] <BiggBoss> yes
[11:20] <Johny> BiggBoss, why is that?
[11:20] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: Don't they have instructions there for that?
[11:20] <BiggBoss> i followed
[11:20] <BiggBoss> but i cannot install it
[11:20] <jrib> BiggBoss: sun-java6-jdk is in the repositories.  Use synaptic
[11:21] <bluespuke> hi, how can i  use an external usb cardreader under jaunty?
[11:21] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: that installer does not use Ubuntu's package management system.
[11:21] <Johny> BiggBoss, pastebin da error! :)
[11:21] <BiggBoss> is on spanish :/
[11:21] <jrib> !who | BiggBoss
[11:21] <Johny> BiggBoss, oh k then keep it xD
[11:21] <Edico_> I have a problem, at some perriod of time I'm logged out from my system, and it appears a message like, "common unix printing system ..." I had not time to read it all
[11:22] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: the .bin from Sun's website its an executable binary. You have to give it executable permissions.
[11:22] <Edico_> how I solve that?
[11:22] <BiggBoss> i did with chmod +x
[11:22] <BiggBoss> TheMusicGuy*
[11:22] <Johny> strange..
[11:22] <jrib> BiggBoss: you should be using synaptic, not the .bin...
[11:22] <koltroll> Jesus so many nicks that looks the same. Who was I talked to just some minutes ago?
[11:22] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: yes, then go the directory that contains it and then type ./whateveritis.bin
[11:22] <durt_> Edico_, gotta give way more info than that
[11:22] <BiggBoss> um uploading synaptic to the machine
[11:22] <BiggBoss> let me see how can i launch it
[11:22] <Dekko> how can I take ownership of an internal harddrive so I can assign it any mountpoint I want?
[11:23] <pisse> jrib: ok, I don't have ACL, you think I should get it or change users umask? (I have no clue how to change users umask) I mean, which way is the easier, more understandable? :)
[11:23] <jrib> BiggBoss: system -> administration -> synaptic
[11:23] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: uploading synaptic to the machine? what?
[11:23] <BiggBoss> my ubuntu is on a dedicated machine
[11:23] <koltroll> stefg, ah there you are. Hey; guess who's back on wlan.
[11:23] <BiggBoss> ubuntu 8.10 server
[11:23] <Edico_> durt_, how can I see all the text, that was writen? There is a log somewhere?
[11:23] <Johny> oh lol
[11:23] <jrib> BiggBoss: then just use apt-get.  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[11:23] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: oh, so you don't have graphical access?
[11:24] <BiggBoss> no, i dont
[11:24] <durt_> Edico_, /var/log
[11:24] <BiggBoss> only putty
[11:24] <koltroll> stefg, Got into bios, and simply found "Wlan : disabled".. changed it to enabled and voliá.
[11:24] <jrib> BiggBoss: and please address who you are speaking to
[11:24] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: in that case, synaptic is no use to you.
[11:24] <BiggBoss> jrib thats what i use, but didnt use
[11:24] <jrib> BiggBoss: "but didn't use"?  What do you mean?
[11:24] <stefg> koltroll: :-) ... something told me that before ...
[11:24] <BiggBoss> jrib soz, but didnt work*
[11:24] <jrib> BiggBoss: pastebin the error
[11:24] <Edico_> durt_, which one of them?
[11:25] <durt_> Edico_, syslog or messages or is there a log specific for cups?
[11:25] <jrib> pisse: do you understand what umask is?  You'll have to change the user's umask "globally" whereas ACLs you can specify for just that directory
[11:25] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: the closest thing to synaptic if you only have command line access is aptitude
[11:25] <Edico_> durt_, yes I have a log fo cups
[11:26] <TheMusicGuy> but if you know the exact packages you want, then you can just use apt-get
[11:26] <maurizinho> ciao
[11:26] <pisse> jrib: I don't understand what umask is. I'm just interested in this particular directory, so maybe ACLs is the way to go?
[11:26] <TheMusicGuy> BiggBoss: otherwise, run aptitude and type / to start searching for packages by name.
[11:26] <koltroll> stefg, you wouldn't know how to get all these different eeepc-specific things so that you can controll bluetooth and so on. There as SO many eeepc-distros out there so I just don't know where to look.
[11:26] <koltroll> I used eeebuntu first, and that gave me some neat eeepc specific apps.
[11:26] <mataks> can someone help me install a sound card driver.. i don't have a sound.... . i have 0:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[11:26] <jrib> pisse: when your user creates a new file umask determines what permissions it has by default
[11:27] <BiggBoss> jrib http://pastebin.com/d3fd3868c
[11:27] <koltroll> Perhaps I don't need them, perhaps they are just overkill. who knows. Not me.
[11:27] <jrib> BiggBoss: sun-java6-jdk is already installed then.  Why do you say it didn't work?
[11:27] <maurizinho> are you only englishes?
[11:27] <durt_> maurizinho, yes
[11:27] <jrib> maurizinho: what language do you prefer?
[11:27] <BiggBoss> root@ns207925:~# java -version
[11:27] <BiggBoss> -bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory
[11:27] <maurizinho> i'm italian ...
[11:28] <jrib> !it | maurizinho
[11:28] <jrib> BiggBoss: dpkg -L sun-java6-jdk | grep bin
[11:28] <koltroll> !se | koltroll
[11:28] <pisse> jrib: ah ok, then that's not what I want, but I guess it would work since they only got their home folder otherwise.. meaning noone can enter their homefolder and therefor can't see files they created there. Where can I change the umask then? :)
[11:28] <maurizinho> thank you ubottu
[11:28] <koltroll> haha
[11:28] <BiggBoss> and now jrib?
[11:28] <jrib> BiggBoss: pastebin
[11:28] <stefg> koltroll: i usually use a stock ubuntu install with the array.org-kernel ....
[11:29] <Johny> mataks, just go to official site of soundcard download the driver for ur card (for linux) and install it
[11:29] <dew> hey can someone tell me how to install ubuntu 9.04 with virtual michine on an existing xp install.
[11:29] <BiggBoss> jrib http://pastebin.com/d1dddacb6
[11:29] <jrib> pisse: I forget where it is set in ubuntu, try looking in /etc/environment, /etc/profile* and /etc/bash*
[11:29] <demolit> Hi! Im trying to install ubuntu minimal server, but it fails trying to download the release file.
[11:29] <jrib> pisse: keep in mind a user can change it
[11:29] <durt_> demolit, error messafe?
[11:29] <demolit> messafe?
[11:29] <durt_> message
[11:29] <demolit> aha
[11:30] <koltroll> Stefg, that array.org-kernel.... keeps popping up. I better read up on it to see what it's all about. Well thanks again for your help.
[11:30] <pisse> jrib: ah ok.. well that's not optimal.. I'll take a look at ACL and if don't understand it I'll go for umask :] ty for the help!
[11:31] <demolit> hold on durt_
[11:31] <cooper77z> what's a good format to capture dvd+r video in vlc?
[11:31] <cooper77z> the default is way more than my sys can handle
[11:32] <BiggBoss> any clue jrib?
[11:32] <TheMusicGuy> I think I may be running on a 64-bit machine with a 32-bit version of ubuntu. How can I tell?
[11:32] <jrib> BiggBoss: you might need sun-java6-jre as well but pastebin: sudo update-java-alternatives -l
[11:32] <demolit> durt_: it says that the host may be unavalible or that is does not have the corret release file.. i have tried several hosts
[11:32] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: uname -m
[11:32] <demolit> 9.04 btw
[11:33] <TheMusicGuy> jrib: i686
[11:33] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: ubuntu is 32bit then
[11:33] <philipp__> stefg thats the stuff
[11:33] <TheMusicGuy> jrib: how do I check if the cpu is 64 bit?
[11:33] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/dca4d071
[11:33] <cooper77z> I can watch the capture just fine in vlc, but editing with cinelerra is impossible, with the default format
[11:33] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: cat /proc/cpuinfo  and google I guess
[11:34] <durt> demolit, host as in an archive? is your network up, dns working?
[11:34] <philipp__> stefg....  guess that works more reliable... thx
[11:34] <Edico_> durt, I don't find that message in /var/log
[11:34] <jrib> BiggBoss: "l", the letter, not "1" the number (get a decent font :))
[11:34] <demolit> durt_: host as in mirror actually.. hmm, maybe my dns is gay
[11:34] <BiggBoss> ah
[11:35] <noodles> a
[11:35] <BiggBoss> jrib http://pastebin.com/d63c78acf
[11:35] <cooper77z> it's quite amazing video quality actually, way better than xp ever captured
[11:35] <danielecr> some example on using g_file_monitor ?
[11:35] <jrib> demolit: please don't use "gay" that way here
[11:35] <demolit> oh, sorry
[11:35] <jrib> BiggBoss: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-openjdk
[11:35] <TheMusicGuy> If I'm running a 32 bit ubuntu on a 64 bit cpu, what's the best way to upgrade to a 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:35] <durt> Edico_, then we cannot help you without knowing the message
[11:35] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: backup and reinstall
[11:35] <jrib> !clone > TheMusicGuy
[11:36] <Edico_> durt, next I will try to write on paper but it doesn't stay too long cause it sent me to the login screen
[11:36] <demolit> durt_: you are correct, my dns I down
[11:36] <demolit> bah
[11:36] <Edico_> durt, was something with cupsd was restarting ...
[11:37] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d69477493
[11:37] <demolit> any way to hardcode DNS settings in the minimal setup?
[11:37] <TheMusicGuy> ubottu: hm...unfortunately, I don't have a backup drive.
[11:37] <jrib> BiggBoss: try "java -version" now
[11:37] <durt> demolit, well then 'straighten' it out ;)
[11:37] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: then you don't have data you care about :)
[11:37] <TheMusicGuy> or I don't have money...
[11:37] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: drives are dirt cheap
[11:38] <demolit> durt: is it possible to set the installer to you a specific dns?
[11:38] <TheMusicGuy> jrib: depends on who you ask
[11:38] <BiggBoss> jrib: I love you. Btw, ill paste you what says, and you will can tell me if its jdk
[11:38] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: trust me, once you lose important data the first time you will invest in one
[11:38] <durt> demolit, edit or create /etc/resolv.conf and restart networking
[11:38] <Edico_> durt, look like that is my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135198
[11:38] <demolit> durt: im using the live cd thing
[11:38] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d7adb3d1
[11:38] <froes> hi, is there a MSN client that can make "video conversation" with both audio and video ?????
[11:39] <durt> demolit, you have ips for a dns service?
[11:39] <demolit> yup
[11:39] <TheMusicGuy> jrib: if I had the cash, I would have bought one quite a while back
[11:39] <orogor> hi here
[11:39] <durt> demolit, if not use opendns ones
[11:39] <orogor> i got a small issue with dhcpd which doesn t start on boot, anyoen has an idae?
[11:40] <demolit> ill just call and check with them
[11:40] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: you can get a 100GB drive which should be more than enough for personal data for like 30 bucks
[11:40] <BiggBoss> jrib: could you confirm me that this is jdk? http://pastebin.com/d7adb3d1
[11:41] <koltroll> stefg, is there a point for me to install the array kernel even tho everything seems to working as it should?
[11:41] <durt> demolit, put them in /etc/resolv.conf like so 'nameserver 123.123.123.123'
[11:41] <stefg> koltroll: http://array.org/ubuntu/
[11:41] <TheMusicGuy> jrib: I used to use a 160GB IDE/ATA in an enclosure, but then I upgraded my internal SATA to a 250GB, so I gave the 160GB IDE to my sister who needed it more than I did.
[11:41] <mataks> how to use emerald themes?
[11:42] <benalink> Hello
[11:42] <durt> demolit, restart networking with 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[11:42] <jrib> BiggBoss: it's not, can you pastebin: apt-cache policy sun-java6-jdk
[11:42] <benalink> Guys im having trouble with installation
[11:42] <koltroll> stefg, yea man I'm there reading as we speak. And to me it seems to goal is to provide a kernel with support for the main hardware in some different netbooks.
[11:42] <demolit> durt: im using the "graphical" installer interface
[11:42] <jrib> BiggBoss: right now you are using icedtea, the open source one
[11:42] <stefg> koltroll: you can have the stock and array kernel installed side by side... so just check which one runs better
[11:43] <durt> demolit, can you Ctrl-Alt-F1 to a term?
[11:43] <koltroll> yea I suppose. Tho I'm probably to non-techy to understand which one actually runs the better. :)
[11:43] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d18e06150
[11:43] <jrib> BiggBoss: install sun-java6-jre too
[11:43] <durt> demolit, or does the graphical interface allow you to specify dns?
[11:43] <stefg> koltroll: a custom tailored kernel has advantages in speed and size. how much of that theory applies to everyday work is another question
[11:43] <benalink> It says partion could not be unmounted cdrom. I dont have a cdrom drive
[11:43] <benalink> partition*
[11:44] <BiggBoss> jrib: with sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre ?
[11:44] <jrib> BiggBoss: yeah
[11:44] <koltroll> stefg, so one could say it's "good practice" to use the kernel that's optimized for ones system
[11:44] <mefached> Is there an easy way to make my GNOME desktop act like UNR?
[11:44] <bazhang> mefached, install the unr package
[11:44] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: how about the drive you upgraded from?
[11:44] <BiggBoss> jrib: same as with jdk, is on his most recent version
[11:44] <benalink> It says partition could not be unmounted cdrom. I dont have a cdrom drive
[11:44] <TheMusicGuy> its an 80GB internal SATA
[11:45] <bazhang> !info ubuntu-netbook-remix | mefached
[11:45] <jrib> BiggBoss: hrmm, and « update-java-alternatives -l » only lists one thing?
[11:45] <TheMusicGuy> @ jrib
[11:45] <benalink> install problems
[11:45] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: so use that as a backup?
[11:45] <benalink> it says partition could not be unmounted cdrom. I dont have a cdrom drive
[11:45] <stefg> koltroll: right... just check it out and decide for yourself. If don't feel a good reason to use a different kernel it's alway a good idea to stick with the sandard kernel which is the best maintained one
[11:45] <TheMusicGuy> I guess I would need to get an enclosure.
[11:45] <BiggBoss> jrib: just this java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
[11:46] <mefached> bazhang: apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix doesn't work. Is that 9.04 only? I'm running 8.04.3.
[11:46] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: well you can just keep it as a second drive right?
[11:46] <koltroll> stefg, thanks
[11:46] <bazhang> mefached, that is Jaunty only iirc, I can check
[11:46] <benalink> t says partition could not be unmounted cdrom. I dont have a cdrom drive. Please someone help me.
[11:46] <TheMusicGuy> jrib: well, to access it I would need to take the current HD out of my laptop and put the new one in
[11:46] <jrib> BiggBoss: ok... is sun-java6-bin installed?
[11:46] <TheMusicGuy> or rather, the old one
[11:46] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: oh, it's a laptop
[11:46] <TheMusicGuy> yes
[11:47] <BiggBoss> jrib: how can i know it?
[11:47] <jrib> TheMusicGuy: well enclosures are cheaper than hard drives at least
[11:47] <benalink> it says partition could not be unmounted cdrom. I dont have a cdrom drive. Please someone help me.
[11:47] <jrib> BiggBoss: apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin
[11:47] <bazhang> mefached, Jaunty only
[11:47] <TheMusicGuy> and its no small task to replace a laptop hd...those things make you walk on eggshells when their exposed
[11:47] <kakashi_> Hi! it seems to me that my apt is broken, this is my version info :Linux version 2.6.27-8-eeepc (root@adamm-laptop) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Ubuntu 4.3.2-1ubuntu11) ) #1 SMP Sun Nov 16 12:02:12 MST 2008
[11:47] <BiggBoss> jrib: ill pastebin
[11:48] <benalink> it says partition could not be unmounted cdrom. I dont have a cdrom drive. Please someone help me.
[11:48] <durt> !repeat > benalink
[11:48] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d1bc84baf
[11:48] <jrib> kakashi_: you should pastebin the errors (and commands) you are getting to make you think that
[11:48] <kakashi_> jrib, whenever I say apt-get update it says everything is uptodate
[11:48] <Laurenceb> hi, can anyone help me connect to an email server using evolution?
[11:48] <jrib> kakashi_: why is that broken?
[11:48] <Laurenceb> where do I start?
[11:49] <kakashi_> jrib, it is more than 1 year old
[11:49] <jrib> kakashi_: do you want to upgrade packages?
[11:49] <hellangel> hi
[11:49] <kakashi_> jrib, whenever try to install something "Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming."
[11:50] <kakashi_> jrib, I just want to install some packages
[11:50] <Sj4lut> How can I upgrade to firefox 3.5? WHy ubuntu won't upgrade ff to 3.5?
[11:50] <jrib> kakashi_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and the actual commands and output please
[11:50] <jrib> !pastebin | kakashi_
[11:50] <jrib> !ff35 | Sj4lut
[11:50] <BiggBoss> jrib: did you see the pastebin?
[11:50] <jrib> BiggBoss: we have to go learn about update-java-alternatives then.  Actually let me try this on a hardy server I have and see if your results are usual
[11:51] <BiggBoss> ok
[11:52] <lion_> j perl
[11:52] <yuperl> j perl
[11:53] <jrib> yuperl: /join #perl
[11:53] <Hajuu> Hey, not sure how, but apparently it would seem that after two days of not using this VM, all its passwords have somehow become corrupted or something. I have the passwords written down even, but none are working. "invalid password".. How can I reset the root password to atleast get access?
[11:53] <Hajuu> So annoying.
[11:53] <yuperl> to jrib, thank you
[11:53] <Hajuu> Havent even used it, and the last time I did it was all working perfectly.
[11:53] <Iaoo> hello, what commands do i type to reinstall GRUB on a freshly formatted NTFS partition, i have windows on it, and i have an ext3 partition with ubuntu as well that was previously installed
[11:53] <Guest38486> Is anyone available who can give me some pointers on installing TOR for Firefox?
[11:53] <jrib> BiggBoss: yeah, I get "java-6-sun" listed right away.  Did you ever see a blue license screen during the install and agree to it?
[11:53] <BiggBoss> yea
[11:54] <Hajuu> Guest30590: Er, tor comes with its own, pre-secured portable firefox executable
[11:54] <kakashi_> jrib, http://dpaste.com/71217/ and suppose I try "sudo apt-get install eclipse" I get http://dpaste.com/71218/
[11:54] <BiggBoss> jrib: yes
[11:54] <Guest38486> Hajuu: it does? Tell me how to get it.
[11:54] <kakashi_> jrib, the last part is true  for almost any package
[11:54] <Iaoo> so I need to reinstall GRUB from the live cd
[11:54] <jrib> kakashi_: have you used any 3rd party repositories or installed any debs manually?
[11:55] <Iaoo> i dont know what command to type
[11:55] <snape> can somebody help with webhttrack website copier
[11:55] <Sj4lut> jrib: after installing those 2 packages will firefox automatically be upgraded to 3.5 and there won't be any old 3.0 ?
[11:55] <kakashi_> jrib, no, used only apt-get for all or the graphical install manager
[11:55] <jrib> Sj4lut: I believe the two coexist
[11:55] <Sj4lut> jrib: so I have manually remove old 3.0 firefox?
[11:55] <dabj01> jrib: Sj4lut: the do coexist
[11:56] <jrib> kakashi_: your repostiories are commented out.  uncomment the ones you want (including jaunty main) and run « sudo apt-get update » again
[11:56] <bazhang> Sj4lut, no need
[11:56] <durt> Sj4lut, you will have to specify 3.5 as your 'preffered' browser
[11:56] <Sj4lut> durt: ok
[11:56] <jrib> Sj4lut: no harm in having both
[11:56] <Sj4lut> bazhang: ok
[11:56] <Sj4lut> jrib: ok
[11:56] <kakashi_> jrib, uh! okay
[11:56] <stefg> Sj4lut: you don't want to remove 3.0... yelp and the jre depend on it
[11:56] <Sj4lut> ok
[11:56] <Sj4lut> :)
[11:56] <Sj4lut> thnax
[11:56] <qos> hey guys. i am on jaunty here, but installed the newest karmic kernel. now my vmware refuses to compile the necessary kernel modules. anyone has a hint?
[11:57] <durt> qos, #ubuntu+1
[11:57] <jrib> BiggBoss: I'm reading /usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives to try to see why it doesn't see your jdk on your installation
[11:57] <snape> can somebody help with webhttrack website copier
[11:57] <BiggBoss> jrib: ok. thx for help me a lot
[11:57] <Hajuu> Hey, not sure how, but apparently it would seem that after two days of not using this VM, all its passwords have somehow become corrupted or something. I have the passwords written down even, but none are working. "invalid password".. How can I reset the root password to atleast get access?
[11:57] <Hajuu> So annoying, Havent even used it, and the last time I did it was all working perfectly.
[11:58] <Iaoo> does anyone know how to install GRUB after formatting an NTFS partition, installing windows 7, and ubuntu was installed previously on an ext3 partition and should still be there
[11:58] <stefg> !grub
[11:59] <Hajuu> Or just ignore me, thats cool.
[11:59] <Hajuu> Nah dont worry about it, it's not even an issue
[11:59] <dabj01> Hajuu, patience.
[12:00] <snape> come on somebody help...
[12:00] <durt> Hajuu, you can try #ubuntu-server
[12:00] <snape> can somebody help with webhttrack website copier
[12:00] <dabj01> Hajuu, there is a way to recover your data at least, though I do not know it.
[12:00] <stefg> Hajuu: boot to recovery mode, select 'drop to root shell' give yourself a new password by running 'passwd <username>
[12:00] <Sj4lut> Hm.. when I click on an old firefox icon, it open old one... I can only run firefox 3.5 if I type firefox-3.5 in a shell... also it didn't asked me if I wanna be my default browser. How can I make my old firefox to open a new firefox 3.5?
[12:00] <Hajuu> yeah but obviously, that asks for the root password for recovery mode..
[12:01] <Hajuu> Which is also seemingly corrupted
[12:01] <bazhang> Sj4lut, it is called shiretoko in the internet apps menu
[12:01] <Hajuu> Either that or its been compromised
[12:01] <stefg> Hajuu: not if you didn't set one
[12:01] <jrib> BiggBoss: ls -a /usr/lib/jvm
[12:01] <Sj4lut> bazhang: right :)
[12:01] <Hajuu> .. Thats very helpful.
[12:02] <Hajuu> "you can recover the root password if you never set one!"
[12:02] <Hajuu> yay
[12:02] <nikolatesla> how do
[12:02] <nikolatesla> where can i get a virtualbox with usb support
[12:02] <BiggBoss> jrib: .  ..  java-6-openjdk  .java-6-openjdk.jinfo
[12:02] <jrib> !enter | Hajuu
[12:02] <jrib> Hajuu: I have no idea what you are actually trying to get help with.
[12:03] <Sj4lut> bazhang: strange thing happens when I wanna close shiretoko. There is sound if I Wanna save or quit tabs... How can I disable this sound?
[12:03] <nikolatesla> the ose virtualbox doesnt have usb
[12:03] <anachronik> does a pb dl on miro can be read by any players and generally treated like an independant file? be burned an such?
[12:03] <heinz> Sj4lut: Just right click on the old icon, click properties and put firefox-3.5 %u as command
[12:03] <anachronik> or reuploaded into other tracker?
[12:03] <Hajuu> jrib: usually helps if you read the question, innit.
[12:03] <stefg> Hajuu: If you've set a root password that's against the advice and suggested policy in ubuntu... please read the !root factoid before moaning
[12:03] <acke> hey, what apps for ubuntu would you recommend to turn it into a media center?
[12:03] <avelldiroll> Hajuu, it's more like "you don't have to put a password to access rescue mode if you never set a root password"
[12:03] <stefg> !root | Hajuu
[12:03] <Hajuu> Wow, is it? I definately shouldnt secure my root, when using it for something.
[12:03] <jrib> Hajuu: hard to find if you just keep rambling on
[12:03] <linduxed> ahahaha
[12:04] <linduxed> best ubottu answer ever
[12:04] <avelldiroll> Hajuu, you could chroot your install from a live system though
[12:04] <durt> acke, check out the mythbuntu package
[12:04] <nikolatesla> acke: try xmbc
[12:04] <acke> durt, and if i dont want to use myth?
[12:05] <Hajuu> "Just dont use root, then you wont have to reset the password! whats that, you set one and its not working suddenly? Thats ok, just dont set a password in the firstplace. Whats that, you want to use the root account for something because you're not a complete nubcake? Just dont! Problem solved!"
[12:05] <Hajuu> Thanks so much for your help.
[12:05] <acke> i dont find mythubuntu to be as user/install-friendly as i would want.. :P
[12:05] <jrib> BiggBoss: ok.  The good news is, that makes sense with regards to the update-java-alternatives command.  The bad news is that makes no sense if you have sun-java6-jdk installed
[12:05] <durt> acke, then I don't know, specify that in your question next time.
[12:05] <nikolatesla> acke: checkup http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/12/09/transform-ubuntu-into-a-media-center-with-xbmc/
[12:05] <jrib> Hajuu: Have you set a root password?
[12:06] <Hajuu> Yes, let me reitterate the question.
[12:06] <BiggBoss> jrib: what can i do then to get jdk? unstall and make a fress install?
[12:06] <acke> durt, sry thanks alot..
[12:06] <Hajuu> Hey, not sure how, but apparently it would seem that after two days of not using this VM, all its passwords have somehow become corrupted or something. I have the passwords written down even, but none are working. "invalid password".. How can I reset the root password to atleast get access?
[12:06] <Hajuu> Havent even used it, and the last time I did it was all working perfectly.
[12:06] <nikolatesla> how do i download or purchase a virtualbox with usb support
[12:06] <nikolatesla> ose does not have usb support
[12:06] <bazhang> nikolatesla, from the virtual box site
[12:06] <jrib> Hajuu: what VM?
[12:07] <nikolatesla> is there a cost bazhang?
[12:07] <Hajuu> jrib: Hm, do you mean what am I using to run it? VMware
[12:07] <bazhang> nikolatesla, no it's free (as in cost)
[12:07] <jrib> nikolatesla: no, just the freedom to see the source code
[12:07] <nikolatesla> thor: i am in the dc arrea
[12:07] <nikolatesla> jrib so how is that different than ose
[12:07] <nikolatesla> it is closed source?
[12:07] <bazhang> nikolatesla, usb support
[12:07] <jrib> nikolatesla: the usb support is
[12:08] <nikolatesla> ok
[12:08] <nikolatesla> i am gonna try again to install xp with virtualbox
[12:08] <nikolatesla> is it better to use an install cd or iso
[12:08] <jrib> Hajuu: you should be able to boot from a live cd in the vm, mount the ubuntu install, chroot, and use passwd
[12:08] <nikolatesla> i got the xp install cabs down to 127mb with nlite
[12:08] <Padlpmao> hi, i have probleme with firefox, it always start in off line mode..
[12:08] <bazhang> nikolatesla, the cd (though both will work)
[12:09] <Hajuu> jrib: right. Thanks. See that wasnt so hard once we got through all the 'YOU DID WHAT TO ROOT?'
[12:09] <nikolatesla> pad: this happened to me after kenerl upgrade
[12:09] <nikolatesla> thanks baz
[12:09] <Blizzerand> why can't iso 's be in the form of bz2 or tar.gz or so ( and therefore reduce the download length)
[12:09] <jrib> Hajuu: root isn't necessary at all, use sudo :)
[12:09] <nikolatesla> pad: try using grub to boot to an earlier kernel
[12:09] <Hajuu> ... You don't even know what i'm doing.
[12:10] <jrib> Hajuu: I know it isn't necessary
[12:10] <Hajuu> But thanks for the advice!
[12:10] <Hajuu> lol
[12:10] <Hajuu> Sure, i'm definately not a developer.
[12:10] <dabj01> hah-joo
[12:10] <Hajuu> I'll use sudo, that will be way easier..
[12:10] <jrib> Hajuu: it's your machine though, I don't care what you do with it.  Just giving you advice like you said
[12:10] <Hajuu> Good advice. Cheers.
[12:10] <jrib> Hajuu: Do you know about « sudo -i »?
[12:10] <Hajuu> I do indeed.
[12:10] <nikolatesla> how can i install xp on the same drive partition as ubuntu
[12:10] <Padlpmao> there is an boot cd "grub boot cd"
[12:11] <nikolatesla> i dont want to boot to xp, i just wanna run in virtualbox
[12:11] <jrib> BiggBoss: let's purge these packages and start over, yeah.  sudo aptitude purge sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jdk, then reinstall them
[12:11] <tafadzwa> hi guys
[12:11] <Hajuu> Anyway, more pressing issue to me is how while turned off, not only my root password but seemingly all user passwords seem to have become corrupt in a VM not even connected to the network
[12:11] <bazhang> nikolatesla, virtualbox will have a file of X GB in size that will exist on top of your ubuntu install
[12:11] <Blizzerand> !hi | tafadzwa
[12:12] <nikolatesla> otay thanks baz
[12:12] <Blizzerand> !ubottu
[12:12] <jrib> Hajuu: probably because you aren't using sudo!  (no idea)
[12:12] <henrik_> Hi! I am struggling with Deluge - it won|t start. Any suggestions?
[12:12] <tafadzwa> I need to navigate to synaptic, or some other application that will give me back access to Ubuntu panel
[12:12] <henrik_> And by Deluge I mean the bittorrent client.
[12:12] <Hajuu> jrib: Smart arse :P
[12:12] <Hajuu> <3
[12:12] <avelldiroll> Hajuu, dis you change the keyboard mapping in between your uses of the VM?
[12:12] <dabj01> Hajuu, just a dumb though... not advice, you can thank me for my dumb thought. But your host of the VM is corrupted by a nasty virus from some less than reputable website.
[12:12] <nikolatesla> i am gonna get up enogh courage this weekend to defeat the whole purpose of ubuntu and install virtual xp on my netbook
[12:13] <durt> henrik_, start it in a terminal and see if there's any error messages
[12:13] <jrib> kakashi_: did that work out?
[12:13] <tafadzwa> Is there a way to open up the ubuntu menu from a text file
[12:13] <BiggBoss> jrib: k, unistalled. now run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre and sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk to install?
[12:13] <nikolatesla> it is the only way to get wordperfect support or support for my auto diagnostic code reader
[12:13] <henrik_> durt: been there, done that. It comes up blank.
[12:13] <Hajuu> dabj01: heh how could that just corrupt the passwords of a VM?
[12:13] <Hajuu> seems very unlikely
[12:13] <dabj01> Hajuu: so it's true!
[12:13] <kakashi_> jrib, kind of, not completely, I am still not able to install eclipse, emacs etc.
[12:13] <kakashi_> jrib, it says broken dependencies
[12:13] <jrib> BiggBoss: you can do it all at once and I'm fairly certain sun-java6-jdk pulls in the others, but do: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[12:14] <jrib> kakashi_: can you pastebin the current information?
[12:14] <tafadzwa> does anyone knwo how to open up the Ubuntu terminal from a text file
[12:14] <henrik_> Weird thing though, is that when I type "deluge -u console" it opens
[12:14] <tafadzwa> like cmd in windows
[12:14] <kakashi_> jrib, you mean sources and broken status ?
[12:14] <jrib> tafadzwa: what do you mean exactly?  « gnome-terminal »?  is that what you want
[12:14] <tafadzwa> yeah
[12:14] <henrik_> So there's obviously a problem with the GTK version of Deluge.
[12:14] <jrib> kakashi_: yeah
[12:14] <erUSUL> tafadzwa: gnome-terminal is the executable of the default terminal emulator
[12:15] <tafadzwa> I dont have access to it right now
[12:15] <tafadzwa> for some reason I dont have the ubuntu panel
[12:15] <durt> tafadzwa, does alt-f2 bring up the run dialog?
[12:15] <Padlpmao> gnome-terminal == bash ?? is that true
[12:15] <tafadzwa> I tried alt-f2
[12:15] <jrib> Padlpmao: no
[12:15] <tafadzwa> I have been on google
[12:15] <nikolatesla> is there a keyboard shortuct to get a terminal window not in a full screen
[12:15] <BiggBoss> jrib: k, i ran the command, now?
[12:16] <Hajuu> jrib: that worked perfectly, thanks.
[12:16] <jrib> nikolatesla: you can set one in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[12:16] <erUSUL> Padlpmao: bash run inside the terminal emulator like many other terminal programs
[12:16] <jrib> Hajuu: no problem
[12:16] <tafadzwa> I was thiniing of opening the ubuntugnome terminal from a text file
[12:16] <jrib> BiggBoss: ls -a /usr/lib/jvm/ again
[12:16] <jrib> tafadzwa: how?
[12:16] <Remm> hi. help me please with sony vaio web cam motoon eye on ubuntu 9.04
[12:16] <tafadzwa> You know how windows has batch
[12:16] <jrib> tafadzwa: how would you run the text file?
[12:17] <tafadzwa> eg filename.cmd
[12:17] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d765c4242
[12:17] <jrib> tafadzwa: where would you type that?
[12:17] <jrib> BiggBoss: cool, let's try: update-java-alternatives -l  now
[12:17] <nikolatesla> can virtualbox run windows7
[12:17] <jrib> nikolatesla: try #vbox
[12:17] <nikolatesla> thanks
[12:18] <erUSUL> tafadzwa: go to the VT1 (alt + f1) log in and launch it from there... « export DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal »
[12:18] <nikolatesla> does anyone know a keyboard shortcut for terminal that gives it in a window as opposed to full screen
[12:18] <Blizzerand> !Floodbot
[12:18] <timewriter> hi
[12:18] <tafadzwa> I am looking to get back my panel through he terminal. I was thinking of opening the ternimal
[12:18] <jrib> nikolatesla: you can set one in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[12:18] <tafadzwa> whats VT!
[12:18] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d4b96a2e5
[12:18] <tafadzwa> VT1
[12:18] <Blizzerand> timewriter : Hello there . How can we help you
[12:18] <nikolatesla> thanks jrib
[12:18] <henrik_> durt: okay, tried removing the folder with settings etc, now it says "1.1.9" when trying to run "deluge -u gtk" from Terminal
[12:18] <nikolatesla> later all
[12:18] <erUSUL> tafadzwa: virtual terminal
[12:18] <erUSUL> !vt
[12:19] <jrib> BiggBoss: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun  now
[12:19] <henrik_> I take it that 1.1.9 is the version. Any suggestions
[12:19] <henrik_> ?
[12:19] <timewriter> Blizzerand , i dont need help . thanks
[12:19] <tafadzwa> how to I get the virtual terminal
[12:19] <timewriter> i like to be around
[12:19] <Blizzerand> timewriter ; lol
[12:19] <timewriter> yes , watching discusions
[12:19] <timewriter> learn something
[12:19] <erUSUL> tafadzwa: already told you 13:18 < erUSUL> tafadzwa: go to the VT1 (crtl + alt + f1)
[12:19] <Remm> help me please
[12:19] <timewriter> find out whats new , etc
[12:19] <kakashi_> jrib, http://dpaste.com/71227/ <-- sources http://dpaste.com/71228/ <-- installing emacs
[12:19] <erUSUL> !ask | Remm
[12:20] <gizero> I haven't managed to find an up-to-date guide for installing Jaunty on a LVM. The installation guide for the alternative CD does not mention it. Anyone have any links?
[12:20] <Blizzerand> Remm : Please do ask
[12:20] <Sudobindun> hey is there a way to flush the dhcp settings like ipconfig release/renew in dos ? using terminal ?
[12:21] <jrib> kakashi_: append " main restricted" to lines 14 and 15 in your pastebin
[12:21] <netuser> hi to the room
[12:21] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d4512da49
[12:21] <tafadzwa> thanx
[12:21] <netuser> problem with firestarter
[12:21] <jrib> BiggBoss: java -version
[12:21] <yav> hi, can anyone help with setting up connection sharing with network manager?
[12:21] <tafadzwa> Is there a way to restore your system from command line
[12:22] <netuser> firestarter suddenly blocks all the connections from the router.any ideas?
[12:22] <BiggBoss> jrib: http://pastebin.com/d1efe5c04
[12:23] <jrib> BiggBoss: you're all set
[12:23] <BiggBoss> so, i got jdk?
[12:23] <jrib> BiggBoss: yep
[12:23] <BiggBoss> jrib: i cant thank you enough with words, but thanks so much
[12:23] <jrib> BiggBoss: no problem
[12:23] <Sudobindun> I got a machine I can see traffic on transport layer but cant get no IP, wtf ?
[12:24] <henrik_> !deluge
[12:24] <durt> Sudobindun, dhcp or manual?
[12:25] <Sudobindun> manual wwould be nice from terminal durt eh
[12:25] <Hajuu> Just so you guys know: it wasn't all passwords that got corrupted (which would have been weird!), it was just the root password.. Was using the wrong user ID (Operator01 instead of Operator-01)
[12:25] <Hajuu> Still pretty weird, but meh easilly fixed
[12:25] <SirErugor> I'm doing some kernel hacking and my machine is x86/i386. but why isn't there an entry.S file in arch/i386/kernel/ or arch/x86/kernel/ ? there are for ia64, mips etc.
[12:25] <Sj4lut> Hej guys.. I'm having some problems with trying to scan with canon pixma mp190... I've installed drivers for this device (printing ans scanning) it prints just fine, but when I try to scan with xsane it captures the picture from TVcard? What is going on? Let me say just one more time that I've installed drivers for linus 1/2 works (printing) from this device, I just have to setup scanner from this device. Any suggestions?
[12:25] <jrib> Hajuu: ha!  I was right!
[12:25] <Hajuu> thanks again, dont assume everyones a retard that comes here asking for help.
[12:26] <Hajuu> or well, a complete retard anyway...
[12:26] <Sudobindun> in dos I just type /ipconfig release, and the 10 secs later /ipconfig renew is there a similar command from terminal ?
[12:27] <tbaxter> If my system is randomly locking up in 9.04, is this likely to help: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#Atheros%20ath5k%20wireless%20driver%20not%20enabled%20by%20default ?
[12:27] <durt> Sudobindun, for manual config ...'sudo ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.x.x' change eth0 to whatever is needed and the ip to what you need, assumes a netmask of 255.255.255.0.
[12:27] <Sudobindun> okies ta durt
[12:28] <kakashi_> jrib, awesome, thanks man
[12:28] <Sudobindun> yeah yeah is an up down command eh to enable the link
[12:28] <jrib> kakashi_: no problem
[12:29] <oldude67> coffee...:(
[12:30] <avelldiroll> Sudobindun, durt .... sudo ifdown eth0 .... sudo ifup eth0 .... should do the trick though no need to know the ip
[12:30] <dew> hey just installed vmware player. How do i install ubuntu 9.04?
[12:30] <durt> avelldiroll, yes if /etc/network/interfaces is setup right
[12:34] <Fraeon> Play him off, ubotu
[12:34] <Fraeon> So it's ubottu now :(
[12:34] <mocker3> hiho
[12:34] <mocker3> how can i change resolution
[12:34] <mocker3> higher than 1280x480 ?
[12:34] <gurugeek> Can i aggregate uplinks in ubuntu 9.04? Wireless plus Ethernet, they are both connected to the same router
[12:34] <Lattyware> Depends on your setup. But in general, xorg.conf
[12:35] <scatterp> any one here work for the us dod ?
[12:35] <Lattyware> what graphics card and drivers do you have
[12:35] <mocker3> if i delete everything in in the line modes in the screen section of xorg.conf and restart, then i get the old one again and nothing changed
[12:35] <durt> gurugeek, you need to install a routing daemon, lots in the repos.
[12:35] <Lattyware> if you use the official nvidia ones, the easiest solution is nvidia-settings
[12:35] <mocker3> i have a nvidia yes
[12:35] <dabj01> mocker3: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... Section "Screen" or Section "Monitor"
[12:35] <blubbar> hi, i need a minimal mail server for sending mails from my webapp. any recommendations?
[12:35] <mocker3> yes
[12:35] <mocker3> dabj01,
[12:35] <mocker3> 	Device		"NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[12:35] <mocker3> 	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
[12:35] <mocker3> 	Defaultdepth	24
[12:35] <mocker3> 	SubSection "Display"
[12:35] <mocker3>         Viewport       0  0
[12:35] <FloodBot1> mocker3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <gurugeek> durt: thanks
[12:36] <mocker3> nvidia settings?
[12:36] <mocker3> whats that Lattyware
[12:36] <Lattyware> It's a piece of software that comes with the official nvidia drivers
[12:36] <mocker3> i have systems-preferences-change resolution
[12:37] <Lattyware> very nice for configuring. Do sudo nvidia-settings and see if you have it installed
[12:37] <mocker3> okay one moment
[12:37] <Lattyware> Personally, I use it mainly as it makes setting up dual monitors far easier.
[12:37] <Sixer_> Hi. I've got denyhosts running. For some reason I can't explain it keeps blocking my office IP without me doing any bad ssh logins first.
[12:37] <Sixer_> Does denyhosts do any logging of its own that will explain why it blocks this IP ?
[12:37] <tommy> disconnect
[12:38] <Bonaparte> Where can I browse the packages shipped with Ubuntu 9.04?
[12:38] <durt> Bonaparte, packages.ubuntu.com
[12:39] <Xanthomryr> hi, guys
[12:40] <Xanthomryr> how can I extend my taskbar to my second monitor?
[12:40] <Xanthomryr> using gnome
[12:40] <whitesiiide> anybody know wine?
[12:40] <dabj01> Xanthomryr: you can't extend it, but you can created a new one and drag it while holding ALT
[12:41] <dabj01> Xanthomryr: takes a little "mouse wiggling" to actually get it to move
[12:41] <avelldiroll> whistleboy, ask your question, then you'll know :)
[12:41] <Lattyware> yeah, I don't know why they changed the behaviour so you have to hold alt
[12:41] <mocker3> nice Lattyware
[12:41] <Bonaparte> durt, thanks
[12:41] <Lattyware> and didn't document it anywhere obvious
[12:41] <Xanthomryr> dabj01, okay I will check it out, thx
[12:41] <Lattyware> mocker3: Yeah, It's useful.
[12:42] <mocker3> i spent a lot of time yesterday
[12:42] <mocker3> putting my lap on the tv
[12:42] <hxc__> how can i start VNC server on ubuntu. I am linux newbie
[12:42] <mocker3> if i only had known this prog
[12:42] <Lattyware> mocker3: It's very useful. Shame it's only for nvidia cards.
[12:42] <Sixer_> hxc__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+vnc+server
[12:42] <hxc__> i install it by synaptic but how to open VNC sevrver and configurate?
[12:43] <mocker3> Lattyware,  i have a lot of resolutions now to chose
[12:43] <bazhang> Sixer_, that is not helpful; please do NOT do that
[12:43] <mocker3> but cant get higher than 1280x800
[12:43] <mocker3> can i go higher?
[12:43] <Lattyware> mocker3: In which case, I'd presume that's the highest resolution your monitor or graphics card can handle.
[12:44] <mocker3> i would say the monitor can handle
[12:44] <Lattyware> unless you know better
[12:44] <whitesiiide> mocker: wot OS u got?
[12:44] <mocker3> its a lap
[12:44] <mocker3> OS ?
[12:44] <Lattyware> whitesiiide: Please use proper English.
[12:44] <mocker3> i have linux ubuntu
[12:44] <whitesiiide> operating system
[12:44] <Lattyware> whitesiiide: And this is #ubuntu, one would presume the answer would be obvious there.
[12:44] <mocker3> yes ;)
[12:45] <whitesiiide> can u gt linux drivers for ur graphics card?
[12:45] <kyja> if I wanted to be my own mail server what should I install
[12:45]  * dabj01 smiles at the wall.
[12:45] <Boohbah> i think what whitesiiide is trying to say is WHAT VERSION OF UBUNTU DO YOU HAVE?
[12:45] <mocker3> feisty fawn
[12:45] <kyja> !mail
[12:45] <durt> !ur | whitesiiide
[12:45] <mocker3> its a bit outdated
[12:45] <Lattyware> mocker3: Are you sure the screen can handle a higher resolution?
[12:45] <kyja> ugg
[12:45] <mocker3> does someone know the command for updating graphic card ?
[12:46] <tbaxter> Can someone point me in the direction of a resource, IRC room or similar that would be able to help me. My google-foo isn't working out. My system has been spontaneously locking up since 8.10 came out and I believe I've isolated ath9k drivers for my wireless as the cause. I don't know where to find a solution.
[12:46] <kyja> !smtp
[12:46] <mocker3> no i am sure the card can Lattyware
[12:46] <Lattyware> Usually a shop
[12:46] <Lattyware> if you mean the drivers, apt-get install nvidia or somesuch I'd presume
[12:46] <mocker3> ok
[12:46] <Lattyware> mocker3: And then monitor? Sure it's native resolution isn't 1280x800?
[12:46] <whitesiiide> or jst search google for them and install manually
[12:47] <mocker3> i am sceptical that i can put it higher on that monitor
[12:47] <mocker3> but i want to have a try
[12:47] <mocker3> in windows i cant get higher
[12:47] <frogzoo> mocker3: crt?
[12:47] <mocker3> crt?
[12:47] <dabj01> cathode ray tube
[12:47] <Lattyware> Then that's your problem. You won't get higher than the native resolution.
[12:47] <whitesiiide> does ur monitor support any higher?
[12:47] <mocker3> what the hell xD
[12:47] <Lattyware> whitesiiide: It is always preferable to use a package manager whenever possible.
[12:47] <dabj01> old big glass non-flat non-lcd stuff
[12:47] <Lattyware> mocker3: Flat screen or old style
[12:47] <Lattyware> CRT is old style
[12:47] <mocker3> laptop
[12:47] <dabj01> lcd
[12:47] <mocker3> flat screen
[12:48] <mocker3> yes
[12:48] <Lattyware> Yeah, you won't get any higher then.
[12:48] <mocker3> ok
[12:48] <frogzoo> mocker3: 14" screen? manufacturers specs will mention native resolution, which you can't exceed
[12:48] <whitesiiide> check the manual
[12:48] <tafadzwa> thanx guys, I was able to install the desktop using apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:48] <dabj01> he has 1.6 ratio, widescreen
[12:50] <mocker3>  apt-get install nvidia
[12:50] <mocker3> couldnt find package nvidia
[12:50] <frogzoo> mocker3: most likely your screen is 1280x800 - just make sure you've got sub threshold pixel rendering enabled
[12:50] <CopyWriter> hello all
[12:50] <dabj01> packages: nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common
[12:50] <whitesiiide> does anybody know 'wine' abit?
[12:50] <Lattyware> mocker3: If you have nvidia-settings installed you will already have the drivers.
[12:51] <Lattyware> mocker3: And the package manager will keep them up-to-date automatically
[12:51] <mocker3> ok
[12:51] <CopyWriter> i've been fiddling with automatix, can't get it to work on 9.04, so tried ultramatix still nada
[12:51] <Lattyware> mocker3: so I wouldn't worry about it
[12:51] <durt> whitesiiide, just ask your question
[12:51] <whitesiiide> cheese durt.
[12:51] <Lattyware> CopyWriter: Unless it's changed Automatix was horrible in the past.
[12:51] <dabj01> whitesiiide: from what i've heard wine is a large project with a lot of followers/support and probably has their own support system
[12:52] <frogzoo> !wine
[12:52] <mocker3>  just make sure you've got sub threshold pixel rendering enabled
[12:52] <frogzoo> also #winehq
[12:52] <mocker3> how to check that frogzoo ?
[12:52] <Lattyware> CopyWriter: Also, a quick search says that neither of those two work with 9.04.
[12:52] <pisecx> Guys, where can I read about how to create my own service, which will load automatically during startup? Also I would like to have possibilities to use command like "service myservice start", etc..
[12:52] <whitesiiide> ive installed counter strike source but after a restart cant find  the lanch
[12:52] <frogzoo> mocker3: sys -> prefs -> appearance -> fonts
[12:52] <Lattyware> pisecx: Look up init.d / rc.d, I forget which ubuntu uses
[12:53] <pisecx> Lattyware: is it the best way to do it?
[12:53] <CopyWriter> can you recommend something Lattyware
[12:53] <pisecx> Lattyware: I heard about chkconfig
[12:53] <durt> whitesiiide, search in the .wine dir for the .exe or in applications-> other
[12:53] <whitesiiide> already tried
[12:54] <Lattyware> pisecx: I'm no expert on the matter, but the system behind services are init.d or rc.d depending on the distro.
[12:54] <Lattyware> CopyWriter: I can try, what do you want?
[12:54] <pisecx> Lattyware: ok, will investigate it, thanks
[12:54] <tbaxter> Can someone point me in the direction of a resource, IRC room or similar that would be able to help me? My google-foo isn't working out. My system has been spontaneously locking up since 8.10 came out and I believe I've isolated ath9k drivers for my wireless as the cause. I don't know where to find a solution. (Just reposting once in case)
[12:54] <mocker3> frogzoo,  is that a kind of subpixel order?
[12:55] <mocker3> i dont have appearance-> fonts i just have fonts
[12:55] <mocker3> and there i can change subpixel order
[12:55] <mocker3> is that what you mean?
[12:55] <datta> i had been using aero theme with a mac layout for the aperence but now when i try to get back to the old times with human theme, it says that The theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine "ubuntulooks" is not installed.  how do i fix this? please help
[12:55] <frogzoo> mocker3: don't change the order - just see that sub pixel rendering is enabled
[12:55] <mocker3> there is no word about it
[12:55] <oldude67> datta sudo apt-get install ubuntulooks
[12:56] <mocker3> smoothing
[12:56] <frogzoo> mocker3: yeah, smoothing = rendering
[12:56] <mocker3> fine
[12:56] <mocker3> ok
[12:56] <mocker3> i change now from grayscale
[12:56] <Lattyware> CopyWriter: As an alternative to automatix or whatever, the medibuntu repository will do a lot of what you want http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medibuntu
[12:56] <mocker3> to subpixel (LCD)
[12:56] <datta> oldude67 is says E: Couldn't find package ubuntulooks
[12:57] <frogzoo> mocker3: should be a marked difference
[12:57] <mocker3> do i have to restart?
[12:57] <Lattyware> datta: gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[12:57] <frogzoo> nope
[12:57] <Lattyware> is the package name, I believe
[12:57]  * dabj01 tends to find "sometimes" the answer to restarting
[12:58] <mocker3> i will restart
[12:58] <mocker3> brb
[12:59] <datta> all right i have done that but now my human themes are missing from the appernence?
[12:59] <datta> how should i get them back?
[12:59] <durt> dabj01, the only reason to restart is a kernel upgrade.
[13:00] <dabj01> durt: has resolved other issues for me many times
[13:01] <roflparrot> hi #ubuntu . I messed with firefox and now it can't 'go back' or save bookmarks or display the url in the address bar or refresh. I did this by trying to install firefox 3.5 and then failing and then removing stuff and then I tried ereinstalling ff3 with apt-get and I had these problems.
[13:01] <Lattyware> datta: gnome-themes-ubuntu package?
[13:01] <mocker3> oh no if i restart i get the old resolution again
[13:01] <datta> the problem is that my panels crash when i boot up my system and i thought that changing the theme might fix that
[13:02] <Lattyware> datta: Not sure to be honest, it's bound to be in one of the themes packages. Do a search in synaptic and find it
[13:02] <mocker3> i now pressed the "write to xorg.conf" in nividia settings menue
[13:02] <mocker3> but i got an error
[13:02] <mocker3> ERROR: Unable to determine valid vertical refresh ranges for display device
[13:02] <mocker3>        'Sharp' (GPU: GeForce Go 7600)!
[13:02] <kyja> !mail server
[13:02] <Lattyware> datta: Hrm... Odd. I can't say why that might happen. Someone else might have a better idea.
[13:02] <richardcavell> On karmic my MacBook is rather quiet. Jaunty was quiet too until I enabled surround sound. But Karmic doesn't give me a surround sound slider.  Any ideas how to turn it on?
[13:03] <CopyWriter> Thanks Lattyware
[13:03] <datta> Lattyware: i got aero theme in my system and this started happening, also it seems like 9.04 is a little unstable right now even though it was released
[13:03] <Lattyware> CopyWriter: No problem.
[13:03] <mocker3> ERROR: Failed to add X screen 0 to X config.
[13:03] <uknow> i know this is stupid but i cant compile a autogen.sh it fails half way in
[13:03] <Lattyware> datta: Yeah, I've heard that a lot. To be honest, I don't actually run Ubuntu these days, and havn't for a couple of versions, so I can't help with stuff that specific.
[13:04] <Lattyware> Still help generally though, so still hang around.
[13:04] <datta> alrite ill be around
[13:04] <Lattyware> hope you find a solution.
[13:04] <Krag> have two soundcards 1 onboard realtek and the other external soundblaster audigy, using ubuntu 9.04 jaunty, how do i get the two to work together been battling for a while with it
[13:05] <mocker3> someone an idea for my problem?
[13:05] <Lattyware> Krag: To be honest, your best bet would be to disable one if at all possible.
[13:06] <Lattyware> mocker3: I'd revert your xorg.conf to a version that worked
[13:06] <Lattyware> nvidia-settings backs up your old one.
[13:06] <mocker3> yes but in the backup i also have the shit resolution
[13:06] <Krag> if i do that, how would i do it, have a hard time finding out to identify soundcards
[13:07] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated to the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square backets mean?
[13:07] <oldude67> Krag, the on board you would probably have to shut off in the computers bios
[13:08] <Krag> so there is no way to get the two to work together
[13:09] <Algyz> Hi, is it possible to use webcam when even lsusb is not recognizing it, ubuntu is 8.10
[13:10] <richardcavell> does ekiga work on the skype network?
[13:10] <Algyz> driver gspca_t613 is loading after connecting the webcam
[13:11] <Lattyware> mocker3: yes, then you can try to sort it again once you are in at least some graphics
[13:11] <candrodor> richardcavell: no.  http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F#Skype.2C_MSN.2C_Google_talk
[13:12] <richardcavell> candrodor: I figured.  So there's no open source way of getting on the skype network?
[13:13] <candrodor> richardcavell: I'm not sure.  I've only been on linux a couple of days.  The proprietary skype program installed and worked fine for me though, if that's any help.
[13:13] <roffe> Could anyone tell me how I get the AWN to be on top all the time? It goes behind the bar every time I press it
[13:13] <Stralytic> i've screwed up the pam configuration on my ubuntu server, and i didn't make a backup of them, any idea where i can get the defaults from? common-account, common-auth, common-password, common-session must be in an installer package somewhere right?
[13:14] <roffe> The Avant window navigator I mean
[13:14] <Leoneof> what's wrong with my wireless? http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6637/screenw.jpg
[13:14] <richardcavell> candrodor: yeah, it installed for me fine on Jaunty but it didn't work well with my mic.  Karmic has software gain, it looks like, so I'll give that a go
[13:15] <uknow> does any one know about a 3d desktop?
[13:15] <brodymcd> can someone help? I made my laptop dual boot with Vista... want to get a file on Vista partition, and Ubuntu says I can't mount OS because "ntfs marked to be in use"
[13:15] <Stralytic> anyone here with hardy that can upload their /etc/pam.d/common-* files to a web server maybe?
[13:15] <lor-d> hello there
[13:16] <lor-d> i need help
[13:16] <candrodor> richardcavell: I had to set the Mic Boost separately on the volume control for the entire computer to get the mic loud enough on skype.  Not sure if that's what you mean.
[13:16] <lor-d> 9.04 ubuntu can install compiz-fusion?
[13:16] <mataks> can someone help me.. i have a fresh install  and i don't have a sound... how to install sound driver?
[13:16] <Hajuu> Nope.
[13:16] <richardcavell> candrodor: yeah that's what I mean
[13:16] <Hajuu> Its impossibible1!
[13:17] <lor-d> really Hajuu?
[13:17] <Stralytic> i've screwed up the pam configuration on my ubuntu server, and i didn't make a backup of them, any idea where i can get the defaults from? common-account, common-auth, common-password, common-session must be in an installer package somewhere right?
[13:18] <Stralytic> anyone here with hardy that can upload their /etc/pam.d/common-* files to a web server maybe?
[13:19] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated to the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square backets mean?
[13:20] <sjmulder> I have this odd issue, since distupgrading a few days ago: the kernel can't mount the root filesystem. I've double checked the UUID. when booting from CD, I can mount and use the disk perfectly well
[13:20] <myself> how do I find out what my hard drive identification's are, i mean (hd0,2) etc
[13:20] <myself> is there a menu
[13:20] <richardcavell> candrodor: mate, what's the line from software sources?  The skype website is unhelpful
[13:20] <richardcavell> for skype I mean
[13:20] <myself> for GRUB
[13:21] <candrodor> How do you mean?
[13:21] <sjmulder> the odd thing is that when i'm dropped into the ash shell when the mounting fails at boot time, there are simply no disks in /dev
[13:21] <sjmulder> no /dev/sd* no /dev/disk/*
[13:21] <candrodor> I'ms orry, I'm not very good with the terms yet.
[13:21] <richardcavell> candrodor: where did you get the skype package from?
[13:21] <candrodor> I think you can just sudo apt-get install skype?
[13:21] <mataks> can someone help me.. i have a fresh install  and i don't have a sound... how to install sound driver?
[13:21] <candrodor> actually, sec.
[13:22] <Hajuu> mataks: your sound card may not be supported :)
[13:22] <Hajuu> since sound is included by default
[13:22] <candrodor> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/linux/choose/
[13:22] <Hajuu> in many forms
[13:22] <myself> how do i mount a hard drive? where do i find it
[13:22] <mataks> Hajuu, then what should i do ?
[13:23] <Hajuu> myself: depending on what subsystem your using it could be either something like: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:23] <Hajuu> or mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[13:23] <Stralytic> i've screwed up the pam configuration on my ubuntu server, and i didn't make a backup of them, any idea where i can get the defaults from? common-account, common-auth, common-password, common-session must be in an installer package somewhere right?
[13:23] <richardcavell> candrodor: no, they're old versions
[13:23] <pats> :) Hi all, been using openvpn on my WinXP box, i have been trying to move completely to Linux
[13:24] <richardcavell> candrodor: they don't have 64-bit up there
[13:24] <myself> why can't i mount my NTFS partition after installing windows 7
[13:24] <myself> the UBUNTU live CD saw it
[13:24] <candrodor> richardcavell: In that case I  don't know. Sorry.
[13:24] <bro> ko
[13:24] <Covertcoder> Hello guys. Is anyone here in a helping mood
[13:24] <jefinc> myself: sometimes ubuntu cannot mount a device if it was not properly unmounted by windows, did your windows 7 shut down properly?
[13:24] <Stralytic> anyone here with hardy that can upload their /etc/pam.d/common-* files to a web server maybe?
[13:25] <candrodor> stralytic: I will, just give me a sec.
[13:25] <myself> jefinc it did
[13:25] <Myrtti> richardcavell: try medibuntu repository
[13:25] <Stralytic> candrodor, thx v much
[13:25] <Myrtti> richardcavell: they have it for 64-bit
[13:25] <pats> i have been unable to locate literature for the same on the net
[13:25] <Gamma-X> Any other options for mounting an iso? I get an error saying that There are no loop devices found.
[13:25] <Stralytic> candrodor, just cat them all together
[13:26] <pats> Google took me to a site, but i have not been able to make much progress with it
[13:26] <Covertcoder> Guys im stuck at the prepare partions part of installation. Can anyone here help me privateley. I will really apreciate it :)
[13:26] <candrodor> Stralytic: could you give me the command for that?  Sorry, I'm still picking it all up.
[13:26] <Stralytic> candrodor, you running hardy?
[13:26] <candrodor> Yes.
[13:26] <jefinc> Covertcoder: it depends on what you're trying to do, are you trying to erase everything and have JUST ubuntu?
[13:27] <anirban> Could not find the mount point for your home directories filesystem /home. Quotas editing has been disabled. How to fix it ?
[13:27] <Stralytic> candrodor, cat /etc/pam.d/common-* >pamdfiles
[13:27] <Stralytic> candrodor, then cpy pamdfiles to pastebin or something
[13:27] <jefinc> anirban: sometimes that happens if the permissions to the /home have been changed
[13:28] <anirban> jefinc : How to fix it up.
[13:28] <sam_> I need help with installing Firefox 3.5 on ubuntu. I'm following this tutorial http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/05/install-the-firefox-35-beta-in-linux/ and I can only open 3.5.1 when I type ./firefox in terminal
[13:28] <sam_> How can I make a shortcut?
[13:28] <pats> Sam ... update the repositories, and use Synaptic to get it installed
[13:28] <candrodor> Stralytic: I hope that's right. :) http://pastebin.com/d2ed42864
[13:29] <richardcavell> Myrtti: yep, that's it.  Thanks.
[13:29] <jefinc> anirban: you can use sudo chown root /home
[13:29] <richardcavell> I added the repo and I'm downloading now.
[13:29] <richardcavell> ... slowly
[13:29] <sam_> ...ah. how should I update the repository?
[13:29] <richardcavell> ... but I am downloading
[13:29] <Stralytic> candrodor, that's perfect, thankyou
[13:30] <Hajuu> sam_: sudo apt-get update
[13:30] <sam_> ok
[13:30]  * jefinc gone
[13:30] <pats> one sec @Sam
[13:30] <Hajuu> You know what would be awesome? Alcoholic pizza..
[13:31] <uknow> can some one show me how to install gl
[13:31] <pats> it involves updating your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[13:31] <sam_> then, like, sudo apt-get firefox?
[13:31] <bazhang> !ot | Hajuu
[13:31] <Hajuu> that's totally related to ubuntu support
[13:31] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated to the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square backets mean?
[13:31] <Hajuu> cause you need a few drinks to handle ubuntu
[13:32]  * Blizzerand vanishes
[13:32] <Myrtti> sam_: sudo apt-get firefox-3.5
[13:32] <legend2440> !beer
[13:32] <pats> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[13:32] <pats> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 247510BE
[13:32] <Myrtti> pats: why would you need that?
[13:32] <pats> follow that with
[13:32] <sam_> thanks Myrtti
[13:32] <pats> sudo apt-get update
[13:32] <pats> and you should be good
[13:32] <Blizzerand> !sorry
[13:32] <Hajuu> lol yeah pats
[13:33] <pats> you basically need to update your local repository list
[13:33] <Myrtti> pats: firefox 3.5 is already in the repos as far as I know?
[13:33] <pats> the shared keys
[13:33] <anirban> jefinc : no result ... Actually it is not enabled I think ... It is not broken becoz I am starting it for the first time.
[13:33] <pats> and finally when you do the update
[13:33] <sam_> Myrtti "invalid operation"
[13:33] <bazhang> Blizzerand, please /msg ubottu
[13:33] <pats> your firefox should get updated
[13:33] <Myrtti> sam_: forgot install
[13:33] <Myrtti> sorry
[13:33] <Blizzerand> lol
[13:33] <mataks> can someone help me.. i have a fresh install  and i don't have a sound... how to install sound driver?
[13:33] <sam_> so...sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[13:34] <progex> haj
[13:34] <sam_> ?
[13:34] <anirban> jefinc : http://mr-euro.com/virtualmin-suexec/ I am doing this for things related to it.
[13:34] <sjmulder> okay it seems that my hard disk driver isn't loaded on boot. is there some information that I can get from the Live CD environment to help me fix that?
[13:34] <Hajuu> mataks: like I said, your sound chip might not be supported, what sound device are you using?
[13:34] <progex> ima li iko iz hrvacke
[13:34] <Hajuu> Sorry, I only speak english, professor_
[13:34] <Hajuu> progex*
[13:34] <mataks> Hajuu: nvidia audio something
[13:35] <Myrtti> !hr | progex
[13:35] <Hajuu> nice work for knowing that was croatian, Myrtti :P
[13:35] <Myrtti> Hajuu: top level domain helps
[13:36] <bullgard4> !sound | mataks
[13:37] <anirban> The module could not find the mount point for your home directories filesystem /home. Quotas editing has been disabled. How can I fix it in Virtualmin ? I am in Ubuntu 9.04 . Ref : http://mr-euro.com/virtualmin-suexec/
[13:38] <Douglas77> Is there a dedicated channel for problems with Karmic? If not: Is ip_forwarding broken in beta3?
[13:38] <Lord-Readman> Hello is it possible to cap the speed on ubuntu server? to say 100kbps downalod 75kbps upload?
[13:38] <Myrtti> !karmic | Douglas77
[13:39] <richardcavell> Douglas77: #ubuntu+1
[13:39] <richardcavell> Douglas77: by the way it's alpha 3
[13:39] <richardcavell> Lord-Readman: trickle?
[13:39] <Douglas77> :) thanks!
[13:39] <erUSUL> !info trickle | Lord-Readman
[13:39] <anirban> help !
[13:40] <Lord-Readman> ok il apt-get it now
[13:40] <RanyAlbeg> Q: why when i 'sudo ...something' i give my user's password and not the root password?
[13:41] <erUSUL> !sudo | RanyAlbeg
[13:41] <anirban>  The module could not find the mount point for your home directories filesystem /home. Quotas editing has been disabled. How can I fix it in Virtualmin ? I am in Ubuntu 9.04 . Ref : http://mr-euro.com/virtualmin-suexec/
[13:42] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated with the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square brackets mean?
[13:42] <SirErugor> RanyAlbeg, you give your user's passwrod
[13:42] <RanyAlbeg> ubottu: but if im going to run programs with superuser privileges why do i provide the user's password?
[13:43] <stumped_novice> heyo room.
[13:43] <SirErugor> RanyAlbeg, because sudo is configured this way.. so that you won't need the root password for everything
[13:43] <anirban> who will help me ...
[13:43] <stumped_novice> is this the right place to ask for some guidance with some linux problems?
[13:43] <SirErugor> yes
[13:43] <SirErugor> just ask
[13:44] <anirban> Help !
[13:44] <stumped_novice> i'm trying to figure out how to download through irc on my ubuntu.
[13:44] <richardcavell> stumped_novice: what irc program are you using?
[13:44] <roffe> How do I get avant window navigator to always be on top?
[13:45] <chris-dowle> whenever i plugged in a new eSATA drive, it would automaticly be picked up by the kernel, now i have ubuntu installed i have to reboot, is there a way i can tell ubunto look for more connected drives without rebooting?
[13:45] <Myrtti> anirban: have patience and ask your question, not just beg for help
[13:45] <chris-dowle> anirban: didnt you just get told to be patient in another channel?
[13:46] <Leoneof> please help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1222696
[13:47] <stumped_novice> xchat
[13:47] <Gamma-X> where is modprobe.conf in kubuntu?
[13:47] <frogzoo1> Stralytic: libpam-runtime - but careful you don't disable yourself
[13:48] <SirErugor> Gamma-X, it might not be there if not configurations have been made but /etc/modprobe.conf
[13:48] <Gamma-X> SirErugor, i shall make a new one thanks
[13:49] <Gamma-X> SirErugor, do you also know how to update the system once you make it?
[13:49] <SirErugor> Gamma-X, np, you could have a look at 'man modprobe.conf' if you like
[13:49] <Sudobindun> avelldiroll: , durt , I have 5 terminals on this net eh, 3 ubuntu , one windows and some odd apples(Imacs etc) on radio ethernet, only one ubuntu machine wont connect to IP, Ive tried the ifconfig up/down eth0 etc comands with no change after a few go's and some reeboots eh,
[13:51] <uknow> how do i configure video drivers
[13:51] <durt> Sudobindun, so whats the difference betwwen the working ubuntu machines and the non-working one?
[13:52] <anirban> can you recommend me how I can restrict the size of an FTP account and fix the bandwidth that a domain/subdomain will comsume ?
[13:54] <Sudobindun> the IPs look very different eh durt
[13:56] <Sudobindun> ones in a range of 124.188.149.249, anothers 147:40, the winbox reckons its 147.231,, and I dunno bout the apples
[13:56] <Covertcoder> lol
[13:56] <Sudobindun> the dead box doesnt sow an IP after the ifconfig command, that line is missing
[13:57] <Sudobindun> says its 127.0.0.1 ? eh durt
[13:57] <Sudobindun> says its up to eh Link up eth0
[13:57] <roffe> How do I get avant window navigator to always be on top?
[13:58] <durt> Sudobindun, 127.0.0.1 is the local loop back, nothing to do with what you want
[13:58] <Sudobindun> okies
[13:58] <durt> Sudobindun, there's no dhcp server on this net?
[13:59] <sam_> Ok, after typing "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5" it installed then displayed this message: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place". I don't know where/how to open firefox (aside from ff3.0.12)
[13:59] <sergeykish> Hello, I use CapsLock for keyboard layout switch (Ubuntu 9.04 netbook), but it doesn't work on external keyboard. I need to reapply keyboard settingn after each reboot. How can I fix it?
[13:59] <durt> !ff35 > sam_
[14:00] <legend2440> sam_ open Applications>Internet>Shiretoko
[14:00] <sergeykish> :)
[14:00] <Sudobindun> no no server as such its a couple of daisy chained switches all dumb hubs eh durt,,
[14:01] <Hajuu> lol daisy chained switches?
[14:01] <ubby> hi there
[14:01] <Hajuu> are you serious?
[14:01] <sam_> WOAH
[14:01] <sam_> legend2440
[14:01] <sam_> thanks, I didn't know about this
[14:01] <Sudobindun> but it dont mater even if plug this box into the modem direct ethernet it still wont connect,,  durt
[14:02] <ubby> What is the right place where to put configurations command to be run at startup (like xset(1) or the like)?
[14:02] <Sudobindun> and its the biggest fastest box on the network lol,, running 9.04 like 3 other ubuntu boxes which all connect fine lol
[14:02] <durt> Sudobindun,  take a look at the other ubuntu machines /etc/network/interfaces file and set one up like that on the non-working machine.
[14:03] <Sudobindun> okies ta
[14:03] <anirban> How can I restrict the disk space used by an unix user ?
[14:03] <richardcavell> candrodor: I installed skype.  I boosted the mic a fair bit and it works brilliantly
[14:03] <ubby> anirban: quote(1)
[14:03] <candrodor> yay
[14:03] <durt> Sudobindun, obviously with a unique IP.
[14:03] <richardcavell> candrodor: works better than in OS X actually owing to the software gain
[14:03] <richardcavell> brilliant idea, that
[14:03] <ubby> anirban: uhm.. and ulimit
[14:04] <ubby> anirban: you may also find this interesting: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxquota/
[14:04] <Sudobindun> I will check the workers and see whats in the 3 different working machines first,, might shed light
[14:05] <x-kent> .
[14:05] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated with the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square brackets mean?
[14:06] <Keiffer> How can I encrypt my USB bootable Slax? So if I loose my stick, nobody will see the data.
[14:09] <Sudobindun> lol only 2 lines in the file "auto lo, iface to inet loopback" same file exists on broken box eh
[14:09] <sammyF> hey everybody. not really ubuntu specific, but could someone tell how to send a list of arguments stored in a textfile to rsync? I tried a lot of things (some of which were just stupid but I was desperate), two of which are in http://pastebin.com/m1b572dd8 but somehow xargs doesn't seem to want to split the lines correctly and I'm out of ideas
[14:09] <dragan> how to start buissnis with ubunt system administratiing
[14:09] <dragan> and using licenc for working
[14:10] <sammyF> (and no, it's not the actual arglist.txt. the P thing is just for comic relief)
[14:11] <mycosys> hey guys - got a recommendation of easiest way to move OS to another drive, the one i am using is too noisy. would prefer to to it from a bash, but, either way is good
[14:11] <durt> Sudobindun, then configuration is happening with network manager, which I am unfamiliar with.
[14:12] <bullgard4> dragan: Your question is difficult to understand. Please re-word it.
[14:12] <sammyF> mycosys: I might be mistaken, but you just need to copy everything to the new drive, and reinstall grub on it. afterward, you can just boot from it and everything should be fine
[14:12] <Sudobindun> mm okies its very odd issue eh,, I expect it to cure itself within a week or so,,Ill plug it in one day and it will reconnect for some reason who knows ,,
[14:12] <mycosys> that would end up being a recursive copy i would think
[14:12] <ubby> re
[14:13] <mycosys> unfortunately the target drive is not infinitely large
[14:13] <sammyF> mycosys: well, /dev, /sys, /proc /tmp and probably /media don't need to be copied
[14:14] <sammyF> mycosys: I don't know whether the system creates the directories, so you might need to create them manually on the target drive, but apart from that, I don't see how it would be recursive
[14:15] <sammyF> mycosys: I migrated my system to a bigger drive a year or so ago and it worked
[14:15] <unop> sammyF, xarg -0  implies that input coming in is null-terminated - but in both of your cases, they aren't
[14:16] <mycosys> ty :)
[14:16] <unop> sammyF, also, rsync has the ability to read from a file containing options directly
[14:16] <sammyF> unop: that's what I thought, which is why I tried it by replaceing \n with \0 (or \d000 at one point)
[14:17] <sammyF> unop: oops. didn't know about THAT. back to the man page then
[14:17] <sam_> So here's more of a general question: Is there any for-sure way to download software on linux? It seems everything has 9 different, home-brewish ways of doing things...
[14:17] <unop> sammyF, but sed's buffer space is newline delimited .. so any operations within sed have no concept of the newline
[14:17] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated with the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square brackets mean?
[14:17] <skullbox> sam_ use the synaptic package manager
[14:17] <boogab00> ssh me@84.179.92.124
[14:18] <sam_> skull is everything i'll every need software-wise on synaptic?
[14:18] <Sudobindun> use synaptic sam_ eh
[14:18] <sammyF> unop: ah! that explains why it didn't work at all! thanks a lot. I'll re-read the manpage (I must confess I stopped midway, around the filter part)
[14:18] <skullbox> sam_ ya more or less, and if u cant find it in there u can always get the source code and compile it
[14:18] <sergeykish> sam_: there are many ways, just use the way that you like
[14:18] <Padhu> ubuntians, I found HFS (http file server) exe which is used by myfriend in windows for file sharing in internet. Its size is nearly 500 KB. Is any front end like this in ubuntu?
[14:19] <sergeykish> Padhu you can use SMB, FTP and SSH
[14:20] <Sj4lut> Hej guys.. I'm having some problems with trying to scan with canon pixma mp190... I've installed drivers for this device (printing ans scanning) it prints just fine, but when I try to scan with xsane it captures the picture from TVcard? What is going on? Let me say just one more time that I've installed drivers for linus 1/2 works (printing) from this device, I just have to setup scanner from this device. Any suggestions?
[14:20] <sammyF> sam_: first try synaptics, then try pages like getdeb if you don't find what you want in synaptics, and if THAT failt, get the source code and compile yourself. THe last one sounds daunting, but once you' have done it once it gets really easy generally. Most of the time, compiling is just calling "./configure" then "make" and then "sudo make install"
[14:21] <Padhu> sergeykish: on the fly its works. Is it possible in ubuntu?
[14:22] <chris-dowle> this ubuntu is taking a bit to get used to
[14:22] <skullbox> chris-dowle, but its worth it trust me
[14:22] <sam_> Thanks sammyF
[14:22] <sammyF> chris-dowle: in what way? (and what skullbox said;)
[14:23] <sergeykish> Padhu: As I understand you want share files, it is possible on Ubuntu
[14:23] <chris-dowle> well, i would compile a system using LFS, dont mind me, im just ranting
[14:23] <chris-dowle> i pressed alt+f2 and gdm came up xD
[14:25] <chris-dowle> where is my console mouse
[14:25] <skullbox> chris-dowle, there is no mouse in console
[14:25] <Padhu> sergeykish: I understand that. I am able to do it. but i am talking about new one. like these type of problems, most of my friends stick with windows with viruses ( almost :-p)
[14:25] <chris-dowle> argh
[14:26] <skullbox> chris-dowle, console is a command line, you dont need a mouse in there
[14:26] <ztw4726> skullbox: never heard of gpm?
[14:26] <chris-dowle> thats the name
[14:26] <chris-dowle> thanks
[14:26] <sergeykish> Padhu: sorry, I don't understand
[14:27] <skullbox> ztw4726, why on earth would u need it lol
[14:27] <chris-dowle> copy and paste
[14:27] <ztw4726> skullbox: i don't need it. chris-dowle needs it.
[14:27] <ztw4726> skullbox: i do copy and paste in console with screen
[14:27]  * chris-dowle now has mouse :-D
[14:27] <aaronvarghese_> helo
[14:27] <aaronvarghese_> can some1 remote desktop me
[14:27] <aaronvarghese_> can some1 remote desktop me
[14:28] <aaronvarghese_> can some 1 remote desktop me
[14:28] <Myrtti> aaronvarghese_: no.
[14:28] <skullbox> quit spamming
[14:28] <Myrtti> have patience
[14:28] <aaronvarghese_> ok
[14:28] <aaronvarghese_> sory
[14:29] <jwhl> hello, i just installed ubuntu 9.04 yesterday and i was wondering if there is a way to remove the beeping when you do a shutdown
[14:29] <chris-dowle> aaronvarghese_: after that, im sure no one will remote desktop you
[14:30] <chris-dowle> jwhl: unplug your pc speaker ;-)
[14:31] <chris-dowle> jwhl: i beleive you can remove the module pcspkr, do you know how to do that?
[14:31] <aaronvarghese__> helo
[14:31] <jwhl> no i dont know how
[14:31] <legend2440> jwhl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320921
[14:32] <skullbox> jwhl, RUN ALSAMIXER IN COMMAND LINE AND TURN pcBEEP DOWN TO NOTHING
[14:32] <skullbox> srry caps
[14:32] <chris-dowle> sudo modprobe -r pcspkr
[14:32] <chris-dowle> skullbox: that doesnt always work
[14:32] <skullbox> ya true
[14:33] <jwhl> do i type the sudo modprobe -r pcspkr at the command promt chris
[14:33] <natschil> how can I make autogen.sh display errors?
[14:33] <skullbox> yes jwhl
[14:33] <TheMusicGuy> hey, how do I make a qemu disk image work with kvm?
[14:33] <jwhl> thanks i will try that
[14:33] <natschil> or that would problably be automake
[14:34] <TheMusicGuy> kvm bios gives disk read errors when I try to boot from the qemu disk image
[14:34] <ur> helo
[14:34] <ur> i need help
[14:34] <ur> e
[14:34] <ur>  plzz
[14:34] <ur> help
[14:35] <ur> plz
[14:35] <FloodBot1> ur: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:35] <skullbox> ur ask your question and wait for a response
[14:35] <Boohbah> ur: that's a good way to not get help... just ask your question (on a single line)
[14:36] <zekele> yop
[14:37] <Joe__> I have a webcam that works in Ubuntu (E3500), but my XP (VirtualBox) can't see it... is there something I'm missing?
[14:37] <richardcavell> Joe__: I don't think that's surprising
[14:38] <skullbox> Joe__, try adding it to what boots in Vbox manager before u boot the machine
[14:38] <lor-d> if i install ubuntu 9.04 desktop.. can i install compiz-fusion?
[14:38] <skullbox> doesnt mean itll work though
[14:38] <Joe__> skullbox tried that, but virtual box sees it as an unrecognized device
[14:38] <Gamma-X> how do you check how much space has been used on a partition?
[14:39] <aaronvarghese_> cxan
[14:39] <mrwes> Gamma-X, from a terminal type df
[14:39] <skullbox> Joe__, its prolly not supported then
[14:39] <aaronvarghese_> can sm1 remote desktop me
[14:39] <Gamma-X> mrwes, thanksa lot
[14:39] <richardcavell> aaronvarghese_: okay I will
[14:39] <mrwes> Gamma-X, or df -h  (human readable)
[14:39] <skullbox> aaronorosen, why would u want someone to remote u.....
[14:39] <richardcavell> aaronvarghese_: pm me
[14:40] <Joe__> skullbox grr, this is the second one I've gotten because the old one wasn't supported in 8.10 but this one was
[14:40] <shake> I'm using the shell to send a string to a server which expects only 1 argument. My strings has spaces in it. how can I make it 1 argument?
[14:41] <aaronvarghese_> ok now what do you need
[14:41] <ztw4726> shake: put it in double quotes, "like this"
[14:41] <skullbox> Joe__, ya its always best to make sure what u are trying will work before making any purchase lol
[14:41] <binarymutant> is there a such thing as a kernel panic without being displayed "kernic panic"?
[14:41] <skullbox> aaronorosen, again why would u allow a complete stranger into your desktop.....
[14:41] <mac_v> hi all... anyone know the command to find how long the user has been logged on? [uptime>is system running time, finger gives the date] but i would like an output like uptime for login
[14:42] <mrwes> mac_v, last
[14:42] <frogzoo1> mac_v: who
[14:42] <binarymutant> mac_v, does who do it?
[14:42] <ztw4726> mac_v: last
[14:42] <mazda01_> can anyone tell me the command for reading my cli mail. i logged in over ssh and  some info that posted back said I have mail.
[14:42] <Joe__> skullbox last time I asked I was told as long as Ubuntu could see it VirtualBox would, hence I bought this one
[14:42] <daking> how to use putty to format a disk x something ??
[14:42] <mrwes> mac_v, bill     pts/0        :0.0             Sat Jul 25 09:40   still logged in
[14:43] <chris-dowle> gar, how do i stop sound from cutting out when i switch consoles
[14:43] <frogzoo1> mazda01_: would you believe.... mail?
[14:43] <mrwes> mazda01, you can install mutt to read system mail
[14:43] <mrwes> heh frogzoo1
[14:43] <skullbox> Joe__, i wouldnt listen to alot of ppl in here, they really dont know what ur talking about. its best to check the forums and google the idea first to see if there is any relevant discussion about it
[14:43] <mac_v> binarymutant: i do it for my user profile
[14:43] <JediMaster> is there any way to find out why an interface (eth0:1 in this case) wasn't brought up at boot when it's set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:43] <mattgyver> daking, do you want to ssh into a machine to format the disk with putty?
[14:43] <skullbox> *what theyre talking about
[14:43] <mac_v> mrwes: i dint understand
[14:43] <JediMaster> I can see no mention of eth0:1 in the syslog
[14:43] <daking> yes
[14:43] <mrwes> mac_v, type last in terminal
[14:43] <frogzoo1> JediMaster: try "sudo ifup eth0"
[14:44] <daking> what do i type in putty
[14:44] <shake> ztw4726: the server complains that there is too many arguments
[14:44] <mrwes> mac_v, the top line will have the last login and the time and total time
[14:44] <JediMaster> frogzoo1: duh
[14:44] <JediMaster> frogzoo1: comes up fine, it just doesn't come up on boot
[14:44] <frogzoo1> annoying
[14:44] <JediMaster> frogzoo1: eth0, eth0:2 both come up, but not eth0:1, and the config for eth0:1 and eth0:2 are indentical apart from the IP
[14:44] <Joe__> skullbox well, back to the other idea, anyway to get activeX to work under intrepid?  I have a class that irritatingly uses activeX (need the webcam for it), which is the only reason I was trying virtualbox
[14:44] <ztw4726> shake: what kind of server?
[14:45] <shake> ejabberd
[14:45] <mazda01_> frogzoo1: i typed in mail  from the cli and it returned this: The program 'mail' can be found in the following packages:
[14:45] <ztw4726> shake: then i don't know
[14:45] <mac_v> mrwes: i understand last , but i want an output calculated in hrs, mins like uptime
[14:45] <mrwes> mazda01, then you need to install it
[14:45] <shake> ztw4726: ejabberd XMPP server
[14:45] <shake> ztw4726: ejabberdctl command_name "string with spaces"
[14:45] <mrwes> mac_v, last tells you the total time logged in
[14:45] <skullbox> Joe__, activex doesnt work under linux as im sure u know. check out a program called cheese
[14:46] <ztw4726> shake: sorry, i don't know jabber protocol at all
[14:46] <JediMaster> is there any way to see what is shown on the console on boot from ssh (no local access)?
[14:46] <mazda01_> frogzoo1: then it lists programs like heirloom-mail and mailutils
[14:46] <shake> ztw4726: thanks
[14:46] <aaronvarghese> can sm1 remote sektop me
[14:46] <skullbox> aaronorosen, are u completelly mad?
[14:46] <mazda01_> aaronorosen:  again?
[14:46] <ztw4726> JediMaster: sudo cat /dev/vcs1
[14:47] <Joe__> skullbug cheese is for webcams, isn't it?
[14:47] <skullbox> Joe__, yerp
[14:47] <JediMaster> ztw4726: thanks but it only shows the login prompt
[14:47] <mac_v> mrwes: mine just says > pts/0        :0.0             Sat Jul 25 19:12   still logged in
[14:47] <skullbox> Joe__, isnt that what ur trying to get work?
[14:47] <Joe__> skullbox I already have that, does me no good if I can't get into the classroom
[14:48] <ztw4726> JediMaster: well that's what is on tty1
[14:48] <ztw4726> JediMaster: you didn't say which console
[14:48] <mrwes> mac_v, yah...it'll calculate time after you logout...shrug
[14:48] <Gamma-X> mrwes, have you ever made a bootable copy of linux on usb? im having some trouble
[14:48] <Joe__> skullbox online class, uses activex, I hate having to go to my wife's XP machine to do the class
[14:48] <mrwes> Gamma-X, nah -- never had a need -- sorry
[14:48] <mac_v> mrwes: nothing that will do like uptime, while user is logged in?
[14:48] <Krag> i have ubuntu 9.04 linux and want to use 2 soundcards togethte, how do i go about this?
[14:49] <iceroot> Krag: just insert 2 soundcards
[14:49] <Islington> Gamma-X, what kind of problem?
[14:49] <skullbox> Joe__, if its absolutelly necissary grab a copy of the win7 RC and make a small partition for it
[14:49] <mrwes> Joe__, same with MS remote Desktop -- requires active X, so I have to use Windows for that
[14:49] <skullbox> its free lol
[14:49] <iceroot> Krag: then you can choose in the mixer which soundcard is used
[14:49] <JediMaster> ztw4726: I've got a sort of KVM (it's a VPS virtual machine) and I can see more than that on the console, what console is that?
[14:49] <mrwes> skullbox, that's exactly what I did, 'cept I used VB
[14:49] <mazda01_> anyone tell me what command to enter in the cli to read my cli mail?
[14:49] <mazda01_> ssh says that I have mail
[14:50] <Joe__> skullbox I'm not dualbooting, that would defeat the purpose in trying to get it to work on my machine, so I don't have to shutdown what I'm working on
[14:50] <cydell> I have a dell ubuntu mini 9 I want to upgrade to 9.04. Would it be safe to use "upgrade-manager-d"?
[14:50] <ztw4726> JediMaster: don't know. must be KVM specific.
[14:50] <mrwes> mazda01, install the mailutils d00d -- come on :)
[14:50] <Islington> cydell, as a rule of too many broken upgrades I alwsys dl and install fresh
[14:50] <Krag> my problem iceroot is that i am a windows user, but i'm not a idiot, i have done what you said but it does seem to work
[14:50] <JediMaster> ztw4726: hmm, yeah could be an emulated serial console
[14:51] <mazda01_> mrwes: ok, once I install the mailutils, what command do I enter to read my mail from the cli.
[14:51] <mrwes> Joe__, you could install Win7 RC in a virtual box and then you don't have to shutdown or reboot to use it
[14:51] <mrwes> mazda01, MAIL
[14:51] <mrwes> sigh...
[14:51] <mrwes> heh
[14:51] <Joe__> mrwes except virtualbox doesn't recognize webcams, which was the first thing I asked about
[14:51] <cydell> Islington I was just asking because the dell ubuntu has different repo
[14:51] <mrwes> Joe__, ahh..sorry I missed that point :(
[14:52] <cydell> repo's
[14:52] <ztw4726> JediMaster: all KVM switches i had to do with could only be controlled with the keyboard of the same machine. not remote.
[14:52] <JediMaster> ztw4726: this is a virtual machine, a VPS so it's not a real KVM
[14:52] <Joe__> mrwes think I'm just hosed and will have to keep using the wife's computer... good thing I haven't sucessfully converted her yet
[14:52] <Boohbah> ztw4726: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch#Remote_KVM_devices
[14:52] <ztw4726> Boohbah: okay
[14:53] <Islington> cydell, I dont believe the official dell repos will update to a newer version, get the ubu netbook remix if you want to update
[14:53] <Boohbah> JediMaster: Virtuozzo, OpenVZ, Xen ?
[14:53] <JediMaster> Boohbah: vps.net, they use Xen
[14:53] <Islington> cydell, support problems is the official reason I thing
[14:53] <Islington> *think
[14:53] <mrwes> Joe__, the OSE version doesn't support web cams?
[14:53] <cydell> ok thanks thats what I was trying to figure out without trying it and messing everything up lol... thanks
[14:54] <Joe__> mrwes nope, apparently USB 2.0 cams don't work
[14:54] <Boohbah> JediMaster: ahh yes, the Xen remote console is a standard SSH connection to the dom0, wherein you may enter your domu
[14:54] <mrwes> hrmm
[14:55] <candrodor> I'm confused about how to get my CD drive working.  As things stand, I can't find any CD I put in.  in fstab, /dev/scd0 is listed as mounting to /media/cdrom0.  The drive physically works fine, I'm sure, given I ran the Ubuntu install CD from it.  Any ideas/links that might help?
[14:56] <Islington> Krag: have you read this thread?
[14:56] <Islington> Krag: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205805
[14:57] <mazda01_> candrodor: show us the output from ls -la /dev/ | grep cd   and also  ls -la /dev/ | grep dvd
[14:57] <mazda01_> what command would I use to read my mail from the cl?
[14:58] <Islington> mazda01, http://math.arizona.edu/~kerl/doc/mail-how-to.html
[14:58] <candrodor> grep dvd comes out blank.  grep cd gives:
[14:58] <candrodor> crw-rw-rw-   1 root   tty       2, 221 2009-07-25 10:55 ptycd
[14:58] <candrodor> crw-rw-rw-   1 root   tty       3, 221 2009-07-25 10:55 ttycd
[14:58] <Leoneof> how to use PPPOE? because my network need username and password
[14:58] <JediMaster> well this is weird, I ifdown eth0:1 and /etc/inint.d/networking stop then start, and eth0:1 starts fine, yet it never does on boot
[14:59] <auntieNeo> uh, does ctrl+alt+backspace still work in the latest ubuntu? I'm talking to a guy who says it doesn't work :P
[14:59] <JediMaster> it's been disabled
[14:59] <Islington> auntieNeo, you have to turn it on
[15:00] <chris-dowle> anachronik: its been disabled
[15:00] <Leoneof> how to use PPPOE? because my network need username and password
[15:00] <mazda01_> auntieNeo: nope, ctrl-alt-backspace does not restart X anymore
[15:00] <Trijntje> Why did they disable ctrl+alt+backspace?
[15:00] <auntieNeo> Trijntje: to protect the noobs
[15:00] <chris-dowle> yeah
[15:00] <george1> hi, I have an IBM Thinkpad x31 and I have recently loaded the latest version of ubuntu.  However, it is running REALLY slowly!  When I go to system monitor it says it is using 30 to 40% of the CPU (1.6ghz) when idle.  Can anyone help?  thanks
[15:00] <Islington> auntieNeo, sudo dontzap --disable
[15:00] <auntieNeo> you can just do a killal Xorg
[15:00] <mazda01_> Trijntje: good question. does anyone know how to re-enabkle it?
[15:00] <candrodor> mazda01_: does what I pasted above help at all?
[15:01] <Trijntje> auntieNeo: what kind of noobs do that? it doesnt even work in windows
[15:01] <Islington> sudo apt-get install dontzap
[15:01] <JediMaster> george1:  from a console try typing "top" and see what is at the top of the list eating the cpu
[15:01] <Islington> sudo dontzap --disable
[15:01] <auntieNeo> Trijntje: it's to protect the noobs from Linux, not from windows, silly
[15:01] <yellabs> whats the best video conferencing software for ubuntu ( not ekiga )
[15:01] <Trijntje> auntieNeo: I think its a bad idea, where can i complain? :P
[15:01] <mazda01_> candrodor: nope, i need ot see lines like this: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root           3 2009-07-23 09:02 cdrom -> sr0
[15:02] <chris-dowle> Trijntje: because someone will tell you to press ctrl+alt+backspace for a really cool feature
[15:02] <Islington> Trijntje, you can just turn it off
[15:02] <JediMaster> george1: hit "q" to quite from top btw
[15:02] <JediMaster> er quit
[15:02] <george1> jedimaster: it says xorg is using the most??
[15:02] <JediMaster> how much?
[15:02] <JediMaster> it will have a cpu %age
[15:02] <Trijntje> I can tell someone to do sudo rm -rf * (dont do that newbies) for a cool feature, is that disabled to in the next release?
[15:03] <george1> 43.8 right now
[15:03] <Islington> not disabled but you get a good clean warning I beleive
[15:03] <mazda01_> lslington  when I try to type in your name and use tab to fill it in, it doesn't work. are you hiding your name or something in your irc client?  I want to learn how to re-enable the ctrl-alt-backspace
[15:03] <Islington> in this release
[15:03] <chris-dowle> Trijntje: hehe
[15:03] <auntieNeo> meh, rm -rf * is actually a fairly common command ;P
[15:03] <candrodor> mazda: I'm not getting anything like that.  bad times. hehe
[15:03] <frogzoo1> Trijntje: take backups instead
[15:03] <Islington> mazda01, It because name starts with I
[15:04] <Islington> mazda01, do this
[15:04] <mazda01_> Trijntje: that will only delete everything in your current directory. you need to tell them to do sudo rm -rf /   that's the dozy. DONT DO THAT ANYONE!!!!
[15:04] <Islington> mazda01, sudo apt-get install dontzap
[15:04] <chris-dowle> i beleive rm -rf /* is more harmful
[15:04] <Islington> mazda01, sudo dontzap --disable
[15:05] <george1> jedimaster: you there?
[15:05] <Trijntje> So when someone says their PC is completely frozen and the dont want to pull the power chord, what must i tell them to do?
[15:05] <elky> mazda01, chris-dowle stop that!
[15:05] <Islington> mazda01, that will reenable ctrl backspace del
[15:05] <Myrtti> Trijntje: magic sysrq commands
[15:05] <Myrtti> Trijntje: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[15:05] <Trijntje> Myrtti: whats that? :P
[15:05] <mazda01_> Islington: oh, it starts with an "I" not a "l" very confussing.. thanks for telling me hot to re-enable that.
[15:05] <nannes> Woodstock '69.. I would have loved to be there  :'(
[15:06] <chris-dowle> Trijntje: you could tell them to switch to a terminal and kill the x server, it should just restart if nothing has been fiddled around with
[15:06] <Myrtti> nannes: so would I, but that's a bit offtopic for this channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:06] <mazda01_> Islington: do I have to run that sudo dontzap --disable for every session or just run it once?
[15:06] <Islington> mazda01, just once
[15:07] <auntieNeo> Trijntje: typically when X freezes, it doesn't even listen to ctrl+alt+backspace...
[15:07] <bernardlychan> anyone know how to make ubuntu desktop a 3d cube?
[15:07] <durt> !compiz > bernardlychan
[15:07] <auntieNeo> Trijntje: so you usually end up doing a alt+sysrq+r and then changing to a terminal
[15:07] <mazda01_> Trijntje: yeah, they ussually have to go to another console. ctrl-alt-F1 thru F6, then issue sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start. I think that's the command
[15:08] <Islington> auntieNeo, really I just go to a tty2
[15:08] <Trijntje> auntieNeo: that makes me tak a lot of screenshots..
[15:08] <george1> hi, I have an IBM Thinkpad x31 and I have recently loaded the latest version of ubuntu.  However, it is running REALLY slowly!   xorg (idont even know what this is!) is using 30 to 40% of the CPU (1.6ghz) when idle.  Can anyone help?  thanks (btw im a newbie)
[15:08] <aaronvarghese> hi
[15:08] <chris-dowle> mazda01_: why not restart?
[15:08] <auntieNeo> Trijntje: if you have a shitty keyboard, alt+sysrq won't send the correct keysym
[15:09] <auntieNeo> Trijntje: keyboards are supposed to send a seperate keysym with alt+sysrq
[15:09] <auntieNeo> which is why it's special
[15:09] <mazda01_> george1: xorg is what allows you to be in a gui. gnome, kde, xfce or similar desktop
[15:09] <auntieNeo> even cheap keyboards will work with sysrq though
[15:09] <Trijntje> auntieNeo: i like my keyboard...
[15:09] <durt> auntieNeo, Trijntje also dvorak and other keyboard layouts will be different
[15:09] <mazda01_> chris-dowle: restart what?  you don't need to restart ubuntu most of the time, you can just restart the service or restart X
[15:09] <auntieNeo> <--- dvorak user ;P
[15:10] <richardcavell> aaronvarghese: WHY ARE YOU FTPING AND TELNETING INTO MY BOX?
[15:10] <Hajuu> lmao
[15:10] <chris-dowle> mazda01_: i was talking about the service
[15:10] <george1> mazda01: ah ok!  so is there any way of making it run more efficiently??  surely it shouldnt be using 40% sometimes more of the 1.6ghz cpu?!?!
[15:10] <richardcavell> Guys, this aaronvarghese wanted someone to remote desktop him, so I tried to.  Next thing I know, he's on ports 21 and 23
[15:10] <Islington> george1, kill both gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-power-manager
[15:11] <Trijntje> I have an old Dell keyboard..
[15:11] <mazda01_> richardcavell: he wanted me to help him yersterday. I would disconnect you internet
[15:11] <durt> telneting?
[15:11] <richardcavell> mazda01_: I did
[15:11] <Islington> george1, does that help?
[15:11] <richardcavell> he's telnetting and ftping
[15:11] <richardcavell> aaronvarghese: I've got hardware and software firewall running, jerk
[15:11] <Hajuu> haha
[15:11] <Hajuu> lol
[15:11] <Hajuu> you are awesome.
[15:11] <Hajuu> My own personal hero, richardcavell
[15:11] <george1> islington: ok, bear with me! how do i do that?!?!?! lol sorry
[15:11] <durt> richardcavell, he quit
[15:11] <mazda01_> richardcavell:  you don'
[15:11] <Hajuu> heh hes not that clever, durt
[15:11] <mazda01_> t  run a secure ssh and ftp server?
[15:11] <richardcavell> durt: he's still connected to me
[15:12] <Hajuu> lol
[15:12] <Islington> george1, go to sytem>>administration>>system monitor
[15:12] <Hajuu> So he can hear irc?
[15:12] <Hajuu> through magic?
[15:12] <chris-dowle> telnet is not recommended
[15:12] <Hajuu> lol
[15:12] <FloodBot1> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:12] <Hajuu> richardcavell setting up servers of any kind is not recommended.
[15:12] <richardcavell> Hajuu: I've got them all turned off
[15:12] <Hajuu> If you look in the products terms of service, you'll find you are required to have an IQ higher than your shoe size.
[15:12] <richardcavell> now
[15:13] <chris-dowle> Hajuu: what if you have really big feet ;-)
[15:13] <Hajuu> Even then!
[15:13] <mazda01_> richardcavell:  disconnect your internet, then tighten up your ports
[15:14] <Hajuu> lol disconnect your computer.
[15:14] <Hajuu> and just.. never turn it back on. Problem solved.
[15:14] <george1> islington, ok both ended but they werent using any cpu anyway.  system monitor doesnt show any processes as using any cpu its only when i type top into the console that i can see the usage by xorg...
[15:14] <danlii> I just installed a new system, with the root file system as a raid0 device (used the mdadm tools in the partitioner during installation) and now it won't boot, doesn't even come as far as to GRUB. What could be wrong? I tried setting the bootable flag on the first partition on the first disk used in the raid, but it didn't make a difference.
[15:14] <mazda01_> richardcavell: isn't there a way to disconnect a particular connection? you can find out what port he's on by issueing netstat -pant
[15:15] <candrodor> pant?  Seriously?
[15:15] <mazda01_> candrodor: i don't know, that's what I use. eveyrone does things differently
[15:15] <richardcavell> I used an iptables rule to block his IP altogether
[15:15] <candrodor> I'm just being immature, that's all ;)
[15:15] <lor-d> give me example for iptables richardcavell
[15:16] <Hajuu> lol wow!
[15:16] <Hajuu> You must be an engineer or something to be so smart richardcavell
[15:16] <mazda01_> richardcavell:  i installed denyhosts  and just add ips to the hosts.deny file.
[15:16] <Hajuu> I bet youve been to university and everything.
[15:16] <richardcavell> richard@richard-laptop:~$ sudo iptables -A INPUT -s 115.240.44.232 -j DROP
[15:16] <skullbox> richardcavell, did u actually give that nub ur IP?
[15:16] <Hajuu> lol, because hackers only use one ip
[15:16] <richardcavell> skullbox: you can get it through whois
[15:16] <th0r> richardcavell: don't you have a default DROP policy?
[15:17] <mazda01_> richardcavell: he wanted me to help him yesterday. he kept asked me for my ip. can we inform the channel or something to not allow him to coinnect anymore?
[15:17] <skullbox> oh lol i thought he u were gonna remote with him or something lol
[15:17] <richardcavell> th0r: I should but somehow he got in
[15:17] <Gamma-X> When using gparted, What does moving the partition to the right actually do?
[15:17] <richardcavell> mazda01_: we should watch for him
[15:17] <Hajuu> lol
[15:17] <Hajuu> you are such a lamer.
[15:17] <frogzoo1> Gamma-X: it rewrites the partition table, then extends the file system
[15:18] <th0r> richardcavell: I have recently developed a real appreciation for firestarter....blocks everything by default and then you poke holes
[15:18] <Forza4Life> hello everyone
[15:18] <Hajuu> FIREWALLS? who's heard of that..
[15:18] <Hajuu> you guys are crazy hahah
[15:18] <skullbox> th0r, u do know that firestarter hasnt been supported in years right lol
[15:18] <Hajuu> HI aaronvarghese
[15:18] <richardcavell> th0r: I got rid of it in favour of gufw but I like the fact that Firestarter shows me Active Connections
[15:18] <danlii> Nobody knows how to make a raid0 root system boot with grub?
[15:18] <th0r> skullbox: right, but look at fwbuilder and then, after you have decided to dump it...try firestarter
[15:19] <skullbox> meh
[15:19] <Gamma-X> frogzoo1, If I move the boot partition to the right ( on Thumbdrive ) If I create another partition on the left side, will that second partition popup in windows as the first partition?
[15:19] <mazda01_> th0r: i have a router with built in hardware firewall, so I am glad I don't have to play around with software firewall
[15:19] <skullbox> gufw ftw
[15:20] <frogzoo1> Gamma-X: you'll find you can't move the beginning of partitions...
[15:20] <Boohbah> skullbox: shorewall ftw :)
[15:20] <JEEBcz> Hey, which ATi driver is better for the 'first-gen' Radeons?
[15:20] <mazda01_> richardcavell: so is there a way to view netstat -pant and just kill a connection to a certain ip?
[15:20] <th0r> mazda01_: yeah, I liked having a router, but now I depend on open wifi at marinas and such so....
[15:20] <Boohbah> JEEBcz: the open source one works well for older radeons
[15:20] <Gamma-X> frogzoo1, ok thanks
[15:20] <skullbox> Boohbah, Backtracks FTW!!!!!
[15:20] <richardcavell> mazda01_: well I used the iptables rule since it was an emergency
[15:21] <Neroon> Hi. Anyone here, that could help with GiftWrap?
[15:21] <richardcavell> mazda01_: I only just installed Karmic tonight because I accidentally zapped my Jaunty installation, so he caught me off guard
[15:21] <mazda01_> th0r: oh I see. i don't use open wifi very often but when I do I should setup some good rules with iptables for when I do go out with the laptop
[15:21] <bullgard4> What executable file is associated with the process knotify? '~$ ps -ef; ...; detlef   15751     1  0 Jul23 ?        00:00:00 knotify [kdeinit]'. What do the square brackets mean?
[15:21] <Boohbah> mazda01_: nope, but depending on whether your daemon process forks for every new connection, it may have its own PID
[15:21] <JEEBcz> Boohbah, that got installed on the 9.04 I installed onto my friend's PC - but even Enemy Territory doesn't really run with it it seems :/ Which is quite weird given the fact that it should run. glxgears gives 800fps or so
[15:22] <george1> aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
[15:22] <th0r> mazda01_: that is why I like firestarter. It defaults to letting nothing in, and it is easy to define new policy exceptions
[15:22] <mazda01_> Boohbah: so if I know a pid for a certain connection, then I can just kill that pid and the connection to the ip will be killed
[15:22] <th0r> mazda01_: not all of us are trying to rule the world...sometimes easy is good enough
[15:22] <mazda01_> th0r: what do you mean?
[15:22] <JEEBcz> Also, tested the extended version of tuxracer and that got sub-1fps framerates :/
[15:22] <n00bster> hi @all
[15:23] <Trijntje> hi @n00bster
[15:23] <JEEBcz> Is there any way to get OpenGL to work on this fellow (well, it works but far from well it seems)
[15:23] <Boohbah> mazda01_: yes, but not all daemons fork a new process per connection and even the ones that do can be configured not to... so what exactly is he connecting to?
[15:23] <th0r> mazda01_: if you look at the other options mentioned....fwbuilder, shorewall, gufw, they all allow you to do LOTS of things with the firewall, but they are all cumbersome to use. Sometimes, like the old movie line, do one thing, do it well, then move on
[15:24] <n00bster> i got some probs with my wifi(intel 5300 @ lenovo t400)
[15:24] <n00bster> iwlist says no scan results
[15:24] <n00bster> iwconfig lists wlan0
[15:25] <skullbox> n00bster, what brand of wifi card does it have?
[15:25] <n00bster> IEEE 802.11abgn
[15:25] <Hajuu> oh god, that richardcavell guy was australian
[15:25] <Hajuu> please, nobody think badly of me from him.
[15:26] <richardcavell> Hajuu: Chill out, mate
[15:26]  * JEEBcz sees that RV100-200 Radeon GPUs should work fully >_> Is not pleased
[15:26] <mazda01_> th0r: so you're saying that just using iptables staright away instead of messing with gui's is the easiest? there are so many guides for adding rules for iptables.
[15:26] <Forza4Life> i couldnt get my ati card to work either
[15:26] <Hajuu> I'm not you're mate, mate xD
[15:26] <Forza4Life> mine is an all in wonder tho
[15:26] <ikonia> Hajuu: stop it now
[15:27] <ikonia> richardcavell: please lets move on
[15:27] <n00bster> skullbox i tried to setup wpa_supplicant...
[15:27] <th0r> mazda01_: I have used iptables a lot, but now that it isn't my JOB anymore it is nice to just open a gui, type in a port number, and click apply
[15:27] <Gamma-X> I got this error when making sure the usb stick can boot.
[15:27] <Gamma-X> The file /mnt/sdc1/bt4/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[15:28] <mazda01_> th0r: and which gui is that easy?
[15:28] <th0r> mazda01_: I use nonstandard ports for all my services...well...I run almost everything via a tunnel on a non-standard ssh port. So I need to open and shut ports as I need them.
[15:28] <th0r> mazda01_: firestarter
[15:28] <mazda01_> th0r:  got it
[15:28] <n00bster> i really got no idea, why wlan0 shows no ap's, the pc i use now(m$) is also connected via wifi, so my ubuntu should list at least one ap....
[15:29] <n00bster> ...the same with wicd
[15:29] <th0r> mazda01_: have you tried firestarter? It really is worth a look...too bad they stopped supporting it. But I have frozen my install so I don't have to worry about that
[15:29] <mazda01_> n00bster: didi you try   sudo iwlist interfacehere scan
[15:30] <richardcavell> th0r: I don't know any program that does a better job than firestarter
[15:30] <Boohbah> richardcavell: shorewall!
[15:30] <th0r> richardcavell: and it makes it SO easy
[15:30] <Hajuu> lol you're priceless richardcavell
[15:30] <mazda01_> th0r: i don't need to mess iwth it now because I am behind a hardware firewall but when I go out with my laptop, i'll look into it.
[15:30]  * LinuxGold looks around.
[15:30] <ikonia> Hajuu: last warning - stop
[15:30] <george1> For those that might be interested I have now fixed the problem myself!  the CPU scaling was incorrect and was set to 600mhz!  Just thought I'd let you know...
[15:30] <n00bster> mazda01 sure, wlan0 No scan results... m$ lists about 3 aps
[15:31] <Hajuu> haha sorry, i'll just offer good gems of knowledge like him xD
[15:31] <LinuxGold> is there any latest cacti in deb package ?
[15:31] <th0r> mazda01_: exactly, it is worth putting on the laptop so when you do go out you have it. Never know what kind of config you need at a given site, and firestarter makes it really easy to reconfigure
[15:31] <ikonia> Hajuu: if you don't agree, that's fine, but stop singling him out for smart comments. It ends now
[15:31] <LinuxGold> 0.8.I need 0.8.7e
[15:31] <th0r> mazda01_: I am cruising on a sailboat, so I never know where my next net access will come from.
[15:32] <george1> Incidentally I believe this is a 'bug' in ubuntu and this particular CPU
[15:32] <Boohbah> LinuxGold: what version of ubuntu?
[15:32] <LinuxGold> 9.04
[15:33] <LinuxGold> server edition
[15:33] <Boohbah> LinuxGold: hmm, latest in Karmic is 0.8.7d
[15:34] <coz_> another frontend to iptables is shorewall
[15:34] <Boohbah> LinuxGold: probably need to build from source
[15:34] <Hell`_> is there any help channel on thhis server ?
[15:34] <Boohbah> coz_: i like shorewall :)
[15:34] <ikonia> Hell`_: help for what ?
[15:34] <coz_> Boohbah,  cool
[15:34] <Boohbah> Hell`_: that depends on what kind of help you are looking for
[15:34] <bazhang> Hell`_, #freenode
[15:35] <LinuxGold> Boohbah: ok, thanks...
[15:35] <richardcavell> Boohbah: does shorewall have a GUI?
[15:35] <LinuxGold> Is there any plan schedule, goals or things like that for future deb packages for ubuntu?
[15:35] <Hell`_> help for basics xchat and  ubuntu
[15:35] <ikonia> Hell`_: ubuntu help is here, xchat help is in the channel #xchat
[15:36] <Boohbah> richardcavell: nope, it has configuration files and extensive documentation
[15:36] <richardcavell> Boohbah: a dumb guy like me needs a GUI
[15:36] <yellabs> hmm, no real video conference revolution for ubuntu yet?
[15:37] <ikonia> yellabs: not massivly
[15:37] <tinker> Hi.  After I upgraded Ubuntu I can no longer see the files on MP3 player.  The file explorer tells me to open it in rythom box and I can't see it there either.   How do I see my files on my mp3 player and manipulate them like files?
[15:37] <LinuxGold> yellabs: that would be helpful for us deaf users.
[15:37] <frogzoo1> yellabs: has to be..
[15:37] <yellabs> sigthspeed has been sold to logitec, and there will be no linux version
[15:37] <yellabs> sightspeed *
[15:38] <th0r> richardcavell: not all of us are dumb...some of us are just lazy
[15:38] <yellabs> so the nice video conference software is gone.. ( dell mini )
[15:38] <richardcavell> th0r: Oh yeah, I'm that too
[15:38] <yellabs> dell video chat
[15:38] <Hell`_> i konia: thank you. I tried use /j for joining channel but it's not working, actually i am mirc user and widows just trying to switch on linux ,,,
[15:38] <coz_> richardcavell,  there is also fwbuilder   which has a gui
[15:38] <Boohbah> yellabs: how bout ekiga?
[15:39] <richardcavell> is it better than firestarter coz_ ?
[15:39] <ikonia> Hell`_: type "/join #xchat" without the " marks
[15:39] <LGie> grr....
[15:39] <th0r> coz_: I first tried fwbuilder....it is easier to just do the iptables commands
[15:39] <ikonia> richardcavell: better is subjective, one persons likes are another persons dislikes
[15:39] <candrodor> may as well ask again now in case  :)  I'm can't get my CD drive working.  As things stand, I can't find any CD I put in.  fstab lists /dev/scd0 with mount point /media/cdrom0.  The drive physically works fine, I'm sure.  Any ideas?
[15:39] <coz_> richardcavell,  well all of the frontends to iptables with a gui  are going to be similar   some with more options some with less
[15:39] <candrodor> ls -la /dev/ | grep cd gives crw-rw-rw-   1 root   tty       2, 221 2009-07-25 10:55 ptycd and crw-rw-rw-   1 root   tty       3, 221 2009-07-25 10:55 ttycd
[15:39] <yellabs> ekiga, well i have tried for 3 years, never got it to work
[15:39] <shiznebit> norton personal firewall for ubuntu
[15:39] <coz_> richardcavell,  there is also guarddog
[15:40] <coz_> richardcavell,  http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/
[15:40] <coz_> richardcavell,   http://www.fwbuilder.org/
[15:40] <PoisonSerpent> Norton sucks. :(
[15:40] <Boohbah> candrodor: is it an audio CD?
[15:40] <richardcavell> What I would like is some software that can identify when packets have been rejected and flag them to me
[15:40] <durt> th0r, with paying attention to your conversation, I recommend arnos-iptables-firewall
[15:40] <candrodor> Boohbah: I've tried a few sort of CDs, audio, data.
[15:40] <Boohbah> richardcavell: iptables and all its frontends can do that
[15:41] <richardcavell> Boohbah: I know Firestarter keeps a log but I would rather have something else
[15:41] <edbian> Boohbah: What are some front ends to iptables?
[15:41] <candrodor> I know the CD drive itself works, as I installed Ubuntu last night on it.
[15:41] <shiznebit> i though identifying packets was sniffer's job
[15:41] <richardcavell> I use gkrellm to monitor my bandwidth moment to moment
[15:41] <richardcavell> I wish there were some kind of similar thing for when you get port scanned
[15:41] <Boohbah> edbian: firestarter, shorewall
[15:41] <Boohbah> richardcavell: portsentry
[15:41] <coz_> richardcavell,  http://linux.softpedia.com/downloadTag/iptables+GUI   this is alist of frontends  not sure of any of them  though
[15:42] <coz_> richardcavell,  not even sure if they are all linux based apps
[15:42] <Boohbah> richardcavell: maybe look into snort or nagios too, though those can get pretty advanced
[15:42] <shiznebit> whats the point of the firewall though ?
[15:42] <shiznebit> arent all ports blocked by default
[15:42] <coz_> richardcavell,  those listed with a "k" at the beginning are most likely KDE applications  so dont use them if on gnome
[15:42] <th0r> durt: checking it out now. Wish they had some screenshots on the site
[15:43] <durt> shiznebit, controls of incoming and outgoing traffic to an internal network
[15:43] <th0r> richardcavell: gkrellm is something else we have in common <smile>. Great minds
[15:43] <richardcavell> th0r: it's terrific.
[15:43] <durt> th0r, no screen shots, just an exstensive script.
[15:43] <mazda01_> shiznebit: no, i don't think iptables has any default rules. it's the fact that ubuntu doesn't have any running services by default
[15:43] <richardcavell> th0r: I use it because my internet connection is a bit unreliable and if I have sent out an http request I want to know if there's anything coming or not
[15:43] <coz_> richardcavell,  gtk-iptables   http://gtk-iptables.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[15:44] <Boohbah> mazda01_: which makes it much more secure on a default install than redhat-distros
[15:44] <mazda01_> Boohbah: why, what does redhat have listening by default?
[15:44] <th0r> richardcavell: that, and I want to know if something starts transmitting without my permission. I also keep an eye on system resources in case something goes bezerk and ties up the cpu or memory
[15:45] <Boohbah> mazda01_: all sorts of stuff
[15:45] <richardcavell> Well, I guess I'm going to stick with Firestarter for now
[15:45] <mazda01_> Boohbah: does it have any iptables rules by deault?
[15:45] <pagoda> i have a dell inspiron e1705 and i just upgraded to jaunty. i read that i don't have to use ndiswrapper anymore, but my wireless card doesn't work. i think to install ndiswrapper i need an internet connection...what should i do?
[15:46] <mazda01_> can we inform anyone here on the channel about aaronvarghese_ and his ip?
[15:46] <mazda01_> he's back!
[15:46] <coz_> richardcavell,  that fwbuilder looks pretty cool
[15:46] <coz_> richardcavell,  look at the screenshots  here   http://www.fwbuilder.org/screenshots.html
[15:46] <Boohbah> mazda01_: i actually haven't done a default install of real redhat in years
[15:47] <mazda01_> no one help aaronvarghese he's a hacker looking to get into your computer
[15:47] <mazda01_> Boohbah: oh, ok.
[15:48] <richardcavell> coz_: That looks complicated.
[15:48] <th0r> coz_: fwbuilder is nice, but some of us don't even need that complexity. For me a firewall is as simple as block all incoming requests, permit all outgoing traffic, and btw....open this port.
[15:48] <mazda01_> does anyone know how I can get all my email that the systems sends me forwarded to another email address? is there a guide for this?
[15:48] <LinuxGold> firewall builder looks awesome!
[15:48] <coz_> richardcavell,  yes at first it will be but there are guides for this on that site and of course through google
[15:48] <pagoda> mazda01_: .forward
[15:49] <roma_> hello. I've dought EeePC1000 and I can't read DJVU files.What do you advise to me? For I don't know what version QT I have
[15:50] <vvvv> Hi, i am looking for a tool that wil download a package+is dependencies to a directory.
[15:50] <Mob[st]er> hello !Newbie question: ... I have firefox 3.5 on ubuntu 8.04 but after firefox crashed this morning, when I re-started it, all the icons were gone and all my bookmarks .... in other words: Firefox is majorly messed up and I would like to reinstall it ... how can I do that ?
[15:50] <coz_> roma_,   can you link me to a DJVU file   see if I can read it here
[15:50] <LinuxGold> vvv: apt-get?
[15:50] <Mob[st]er> I have downloaded firefox-3.5.1.tar.bz2 but I don't know how to use it ...
[15:51] <vvvv> Can it do that?
[15:51] <jungle> one simple question:what  this command: "sudo iptables -L -n -v" does?
[15:51] <vvvv> i don't want to install the package
[15:51] <LinuxGold> vvvv: man apt-get
[15:51] <LinuxGold> :)
[15:51] <edbian> Mob[st]er: You can just get firefox 3.5 from the repos! :)
[15:51] <edbian> !ff3.5
[15:51] <jrib> roma_: evince should be able to open djvu files
[15:51] <coz_> Mob[st]er,   try   firefox-3.5
[15:51] <edbian> Mob[st]er: If you'd like though I can teach you how to install software from the source package.
[15:52] <th0r> jungle: man iptables will explain the options
[15:52] <coz_> Mob[st]er,  sorry thought you already installed it
[15:52] <mazda01_> do I put the .forward file in my home directory?
[15:52] <Mob[st]er> coz_, : no prob ;)
[15:52] <roma_> coz_, That is book about Set theory (Hausdorf had witten it). jrib , I haven't evince
[15:52] <Mob[st]er> edbian, well... is it userfriendly / quick ?
[15:52] <jungle> th0r thanks
[15:52] <jrib> roma_: evince is in the default ubuntu install.  What ubuntu are you using?
[15:53] <coz_> Mob[st]er,  do you have link to the download?
[15:53] <Mob[st]er> I can easily find it
[15:53] <coz_> ok
[15:53] <edbian> Mob[st]er: Installing from source is less user friendly and slower than using the repos
[15:54] <tinker> How can I see an manipulate the files on my MP3 player?
[15:54] <coz_> Mob[st]er,  that is true ^^   if you are going to download a firefox  try the Minefield version 3.6
[15:54] <coz_> Mob[st]er,   none or very few of the addons are going to work with that
[15:54] <roma_> jrib, I know it. And I read with evince many time. On my EeePC is installed Xandros OS. I think I will replace that by ubuntu.
[15:55] <legend2440> vvvv: sudo apt-get -d <packagename>    Download only; package files are only retrieved, not unpacked or  installed.
[15:55] <nannes> tinker: what does "manipulate" mean??
[15:55] <tinker> add and remove files
[15:55] <tinker> or just see them at this point
[15:55] <roma_> jrib, How can I get version of QT?
[15:55] <nannes> tinker: do you wanna delete, add files?
[15:55] <nannes> oh ok
[15:55] <Mob[st]er> then, how can I just reinstall the current version I have ?
[15:55] <tinker> nannes: yes
[15:55] <stercor> What is the real command name for {gdmconf | gdmconfig}?
[15:55] <kane77> how do I find out why have packages been kept back when running safe-upgrade?
[15:56] <nannes> tinker: you just have to connect it to the pc via USB
[15:56] <vvvv> legend2440: but that way it will not retrieve packages that are installed on the system i am running this command
[15:56] <nannes> the device should be mounted in auto
[15:56] <tinker> nannes:  I have and the file manger will not display the files
[15:56] <vvvv> i want to use it to create a custom repo for a non internet connected pc
[15:56] <tinker> it just gives me a button to open rythom box
[15:57] <jrib> roma_: ask the xandros channel
[15:57] <tinker> nannes:  the file manager used to display the files before I upgraded
[15:57] <LinuxGold> Mob[st]er: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html
[15:58] <t3ch> hello.. what protection is that ? http://pastebin.com/d6ac89e64
[15:58] <nannes> tinker: ok, isn't Rithmbox ok to manage files?
[15:58] <bazhang> nannes, which mp3player
[15:59] <tinker> nannes:  no it isn't.   I can't find anyway with rythmbox to see the files let along get them on or off my mp3 player
[15:59] <tinker> bazhang:  its a sansa player
[15:59] <thepeon> Need help with ssh access
[15:59] <Mob[st]er> seems to work ... awsome ... thanks LinuxGold
[15:59] <bazhang> tinker, make and model? have you tried others, such as banshee; I have had luck with that and mp3 players
[16:00] <nannes> bazhang: I haven't any problem! It's tinker!
[16:00] <bazhang> nannes, my mistake, apologies
[16:00] <nannes> :D
[16:00] <jrib> tinker: change the settingss on your sansa so that it acts as MSC
[16:00] <tinker> bazhang:  Sandisk sansa m260:  the file manager showed the files before I upgraded to the latest
[16:00] <LinuxGold> Mob[st]er: no problem!  You will be billed.
[16:00] <tinker> jrib: how do I do that?
[16:01] <LinuxGold> :P
[16:01] <LinuxGold> :)
[16:01] <jrib> tinker: should be pretty obvious, mine says "USB mode" in the settings menu
[16:01] <nannes> tinker: so you have upgraded to the lastest version of firmware??
[16:01] <LinuxGold> Google Chrome 3 Beta is out...
[16:01] <LinuxGold> hmm...
[16:01] <JEEBcz> grah, anyone else here with a first-gen ATi Radeon that doesn't get nice performance and seems to have been killed from the latest closed drivers?
[16:01] <tinker> no upgraded to the latest ubuntu which fucked everything up
[16:01] <nannes> aaaa
[16:01] <jrib> !language | tinker
[16:01] <johnnyraidhelp> Hey all, agreed - just upgraded and lost my raid
[16:02] <johnnyraidhelp> I'm having a freakout session of epic proportions
[16:02] <th0r> an ip that isn't in the arin database, must be nsa
[16:02] <LinuxGold> tinker: I think you should install Slackware, learn everything about linux, then return back to ubuntu.
[16:02] <nannes> jrib: are you an op?
[16:02] <jrib> nannes: why?
[16:02] <nannes> boh! so so!
[16:02] <nannes> no reasons
[16:03] <pieroska> qualch eitaliano?
[16:03] <jrib> !it | pieroska
[16:04] <ubuntu> hola
[16:04] <johnnyraidhelp> Can anyone point me in the right direction to get access to my raid again?
[16:04] <tinker> jrib:  my sansa is currently connected to the back of my computer in a hard to reach place.  It reads connected in USB mode -- is that what I need to change?   What is msc mode?  Can I adjust the file manager so it just reads it like a USB as before?
[16:04] <ubuntu> hi motherfuckers
[16:04] <JEEBcz> argh, seems like no-one cares about old ATi cards working correctly and having opengl q_q
[16:04] <jrib> tinker: it's a setting on your sansa
[16:04] <tinker> jrib:  what does MSC mean?
[16:05] <jrib> tinker: mass storage class or something
[16:05] <tinker> jrib:  I can't get a menu while it is mounted, let me unmount and see if I can find a settings menu
[16:06] <gangil> what's the name of the process for the webcam in the output of ps -el?
[16:07] <LinuxGold> brb
[16:07] <HentaiCrazy> anyone know how to change windows on irssi
[16:07] <Floops[w]> alt+1
[16:07] <johnnyraidhelp> Nada on software raid?
[16:07] <thepeon> Any one able to help with an SSH problem??
[16:07] <jrib> HentaiCrazy: alt-WINDOW_NUMBER  or /window WINDOW_NUMBER
[16:07] <Floops[w]> or window number
[16:07] <HentaiCrazy> err thanks!
[16:07] <jrib> !anyone | thepeon
[16:07] <Floops[w]> np
[16:08] <LinuxGold> thepeon: state your question about ssh, we might or might not answer.
[16:08] <darkhamm> how can i create a new launcher in kde4?
[16:08] <Floops[w]> anyone know the option for timeout with ssh
[16:08] <Floops[w]> so that once user is idle it log them out if over that time
[16:09] <LinuxGold> brb again
[16:09] <tinker> jrib:  I found the setting and I can see the files again in the file manager.  Thanks for help.
[16:09] <ztw4726> Floops[w]: you can try setting the TMOUT variable in the user's .bash_profile
[16:09] <gangil> what's the name of the process for the webcam in the output of ps -e
[16:09] <thepeon> I can connect using localhost, but can't connect from inside my network
[16:09] <gangil> plz help
[16:10] <jrib> tinker: no problem
[16:10] <LinuxGold> http://www.wikihow.com/Ask-a-Question-Intelligently
[16:10] <dr3mro> plz help me how to send email using mail command
[16:10] <th0r> gangil: there is no process for the webcam...it is the software you are using that you will find there
[16:10] <tinker> LinuxGold:  I hope the next your car breaks down your mechanic doesn't tell you to go enroll into a engineering school
[16:10] <LinuxGold> thepeon: your network might not be configured correctly.
[16:11] <tinker> have a good weekend
[16:11] <legend2440> vvvv: did you figure it out? i found a way
[16:11] <thepeon> LinuxGold, what would I be looking for??
[16:11] <LinuxGold> I went to engineering school :)
[16:11] <LinuxGold> ;P
[16:11] <mazda01_> i created a file in my home directory named .forward, will this forward all the system email I get to the address I put in the file?
[16:11] <vvvv> legend2440: no not yet
[16:11] <LinuxGold> thepeon: are you familiar with network technologies?
[16:11] <dr3mro> how to send email to my gmail inbox using mail command plz?
[16:12] <vvvv> how is your way?
[16:12] <thepeon> LinuxGold: for the mostpart
[16:12] <burkmat> LinuxGold, lol
[16:13] <LinuxGold> I attended Rochester Institute of Technology, hope that qualify
[16:14] <LinuxGold> I like this link better:  http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[16:14] <johnnyraidhelp> Lost raid after 9.04 upgrade, don't know where to start troubleshooting - any thoughts?
[16:14] <LinuxGold> add that to the bot ;)
[16:14] <thepeon> LinuxGold: I can ssh from server to desktop, but not desktop to server.  So I think it may be a firewall issue
[16:14] <burkmat> thepeon, can you ping the server from your client?
[16:14] <LinuxGold> desktop?
[16:14] <LinuxGold> on the same machine?
[16:14] <legend2440> vvvv: open synaptic  choose programs you want to download and either mark for install or mark for reinstall  then open  File>Generate download script and save the script then run the script  using  sudo ./script from inside dir you create to hold downloaded packages
[16:14] <thepeon> burkmat: yes
[16:14] <LinuxGold> desktop on top of server?
[16:14] <LinuxGold> or separate machines?
[16:14] <JEEBcz> Now seriously, doesn't anyone have a clue on how to make sure the ATi card is getting used properly and is functioning 100% - the guy I installed the 9.04 desktop to loves it, I don't want to go back to Windows for 3-D performance
[16:15] <thepeon> LinuxGold: no, two different machines
[16:15] <burkmat> thepeon, try running `ssh host -vvv` and see if you get anything useful out of it?
[16:15] <darkhamm> how can i create a new launcher in kde4?
[16:15] <legend2440> vvvv: then close synaptic without hitting apply so they dont get installed/reinstalled
[16:15] <LinuxGold> thepeon: ah, what burkmat asks.
[16:15] <mazda01_> dr3mro: i think it's just mail emailaddresshere, then enter your message, then hit ctrl-d to send your message
[16:16] <johnnyraidhelp> Just a quick test, new to irc - are my messages even broadcasting?
[16:16] <vvvv> That's an idea
[16:17] <thepeon> LinuxGold burkmat:  running 0.9.8g, reading configuration data, Applying options for * and ssh_connect: needpriv 0,
[16:17] <LinuxGold> johnnyraidhelp: acknowledged
[16:17] <duph> johnnyraidhelp: working :)
[16:17] <dr3mro> mazda01, i tries that but it gives me "Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to dr3mro "
[16:17] <johnnyraidhelp> thx all
[16:17] <thepeon> Last line reads ssh: Could not resolve hostname host: Name or service not known
[16:17] <LinuxGold> thepeon: from your workstation (desktop on your term) can you ping to a targeted server?
[16:17] <burkmat> thepeon, what hostname are you trying to connect to? dns issue perhaps?
[16:17] <burkmat> LinuxGold, He can.
[16:18] <LinuxGold> oh
[16:18] <LinuxGold> ok
[16:18]  * LinuxGold quiets down
[16:18] <LinuxGold> :P
[16:18] <LinuxGold> :)
[16:18] <thepeon> LinuxGold yest
[16:18] <burkmat> ^^
[16:18] <thepeon> burkmat, I'm just using the ip addresses right now, no local DNS yet
[16:18] <mazda01_> dr3mro: didi you follow a guide for setting up youir ubuntnu install for sending mail?
[16:18] <LinuxGold> is ssh port open in /etc/services?
[16:19] <burkmat> thepeon, huh... that sounds odd. it says it can't resolve an IP? oO
[16:19] <Titan8990> LinuxGold, you don't open ports, you get daemons to listen on them.... sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[16:19] <dr3mro> mazda01, no !
[16:19] <mazda01_> dr3mro: http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2006/09/25/Ubuntu-Sending-command-line-mail
[16:19] <LinuxGold> Titan8990 (updating my brain) thanks.
[16:19] <pmunt> type netstat -lptu that will tell you if the port is open
[16:20] <burkmat> thepeon, Are you running a firewall on the server? Or is this just a clean install?
[16:20] <thepeon> burkmat: It was a clean server install, only addition was gnome since I was having the ssh issues
[16:20] <kedar1> Hi! Want to know the differences between what "free" reports and what System Monitor shows as free memory. The outputs differ vastly
[16:21] <LinuxGold> kedarl: try top
[16:21] <LinuxGold> it's more detailed than just "free"
[16:21] <burkmat> kedar1, Not 100% sure about the specific apps you mention, but I notice huge differences between top/htop and so, it's because some apps count cached data as memory in use... could be.
[16:21] <frogzoo1> kedar1: free includes buffer allocations, which use a lot of space
[16:21] <Titan8990> kedar1, cat /proc/meminfo
[16:21] <pagoda> i'm trying to compile ndiswrapper (even though i shouldn't need it) and i get this error: Makefile:35: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build, is it configured?. Stop.
[16:22] <th0r> thepeon: you need the localhost defined in /etc/hosts
[16:22] <burkmat> thepeon, Hm... How are they connected? Any routers that might be giving you a hard time? Or is this all local, on the same subnet?
[16:22] <kedar1> but on the 8g RAM machine, free shows that only 1g is available!
[16:22] <kedar1> That's clearly not correct, I guess.
[16:22] <Titan8990> pagoda, you need the kernel headers for your kernel (in other distro you would need the entire source tree)
[16:22] <thepeon> burkmat, router and switch between, but have never had an ssh issue with this router
[16:22] <kedar1> ok, I should rely on Sys Monitor I think.
[16:22] <pagoda> Titan8990: how do i get those?
[16:22] <LinuxGold> kedarl: it should be -- allocated to be used for Operating System.
[16:22] <Titan8990> pagoda, so, because you are not doing things the proper way, you could possible need the source tree
[16:22] <kedar1> I will definitely try top as well.
[16:23] <LinuxGold> it doesn't mean that it is already in use, just "allocated"
[16:23] <pagoda> Titan8990: what is the proper way?
[16:23] <Titan8990> pagoda, through the package manager, where you should get everything, including ndiswrapper
[16:23] <haanuj> what is "Segment fault(Core Dumped)"
[16:23] <thepeon> th0r, local host defined as 192.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts
[16:23] <Titan8990> pagoda, aptitude search kernel headers
[16:23] <jrib> kedar1: look at the +/- buffers line
[16:23] <Titan8990> pagoda, aptitude install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[16:23] <pagoda> Titan8990: will that work without an internet connection?
[16:23] <th0r> thepeon: no...that error rings a bell...something about having to have the localhost's computer name and ip in hosts even if you aren't using dns
[16:23] <kedar1> @haanuj -- your program is trying to do an illegal access to memory location.
[16:23] <Titan8990> pagoda, no
[16:24] <haanuj> can anyone tell me that "segmentation Fault(Core Dumped)
[16:24] <pagoda> Titan8990: dammit. i'm trying to skip the steps that use apt-get because i don't want to dig out my ethernet cable
[16:24] <v4vijayakumar1> I am using ev-do wireless USB dongle (from, ZTE) for my internet connection. in a forum, I read that "some versions of Ubuntu do not perform as well with wireless (signal strength wise)." is it true ?!
[16:24] <haanuj> kedar1 : how can it solved
[16:24] <Titan8990> pagoda, thats terrible, download the all the .deb from the repos on a machine that does have internet and transfer it over
[16:24] <Titan8990> pagoda, do things the right way, period
[16:25] <thepeon> th0r, sorry, not following
[16:25] <pagoda> Titan8990: do you know how to get my wireless card working without ndiswrapper? i have a dell laptop with a broadcom card
[16:25] <kedar1> @haanuj, you should analyze the "core" file it dumped (that's what the message is trying to say)
[16:25] <pagoda> Titan8990: running jaunty
[16:25] <Titan8990> pagoda, no, i avoid broadcom at all times
[16:25] <pagoda> Titan8990: where do i get the .deb files?
[16:25] <Titan8990> pagoda, buy a better card such as an atheros
[16:25] <stercor> How do I restart apache2 without rebooting?
[16:25] <mazda01_> i am trying to get mail setup on my system and I am getting this in the /var/log/exim4/mainlog:    http://pastebin.com/f632f9ed3   any help please?
[16:25] <jrib> stercor: sudo service apache2 restart
[16:25] <Titan8990> pagoda, there is an aptitude option to fetch only
[16:25] <th0r> thepeon: yeah...here it is....a ways down the explaination he shows you /eetc/hosts...http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1100566.html
[16:25] <Taft> Hi! How would I change the sound theme on Ubuntu? Also, where would I find a list of sound themes?
[16:25] <haanuj> keden! : when i do "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" it gives that error
[16:26] <pagoda> Titan8990: i only have one computer. i'm dual booting windows and linux. sounds like i need an ethernet cable...
[16:26] <haanuj> kedar : when i do "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" it gives that error
[16:26] <Titan8990> mazda01, it looks like you have done no configuration
[16:26] <Titan8990> pagoda, yep
[16:26] <pagoda> Titan8990: thanks
[16:26] <nownot> does anyone here have ubuntu on their ps3?
[16:26] <th0r> thepeon: you need to define your server's name and local ip in /etc/hosts....it's as though the server can't find itself without an entry in hosts....can't find it with both hands <smile>
[16:27] <mazda01_> Titan8990: any guides for setting this up please?
[16:27] <kedar1> haanuj, the same command worked perfectly for me :)
[16:27] <Taft> How would I change the sound theme on Ubuntu? Also, where would I find a list of sound themes?
[16:27] <Titan8990> mazda01, do you realize that exim4 is a HIGHLY advanced smtp server, smtp servers being the most difficult servers to configure and secure for network admins?
[16:28] <haanuj> that's fine
[16:28] <haanuj> but it doesn't work for me
[16:28] <Titan8990> mazda01, you won't get any spoonfeeding with this, the guy that wrote exim4 has a decent book out there, search for it on amazon
[16:28] <richardcavell> Folks I just installed Karmic and ran zenmap on my system.  This is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/233229/  This is with Firestarter running. Can anyone explain why all those ports are open?
[16:28] <mazda01_> Titan8990: no sorry, I didn't know that. any easier mail apps to setup? i am merely trying to get a mail program so that I can send quick emails from the command line.
[16:28] <dr3mro> mazda01, no it didn't work and i am  using jaunty
[16:28] <bazhang> haanuj, is this jaunty or karmic
[16:28] <dr3mro> mazda01, i tries that but it gives me "Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to dr3mro "
[16:28] <haanuj> karmic
[16:28] <bazhang> richardcavell, #ubuntu+1 for karmic, haanuj you too
[16:28] <thepeon> th0r: ok, added 192.168.1.103 with the host name, still not able to log in
[16:28] <ztw4726> haanuj: karmic is alpha software, what do you expect?
[16:28] <Titan8990> mazda01, ssmtp was made for that
[16:29] <richardcavell> bazhang: I don't think it's relevant
[16:29] <haanuj> alpha software means ???
[16:29] <mazda01_> richardcavell: it
[16:29] <bazhang> richardcavell, that is where the discussion is
[16:29] <johnnyraidhelp> Not trying to be a broken record, just waiting for the devine moment - but just upgraded to 9.04 and lost my software raid and don't know where to begin troubleshooting - any thoughts?
[16:29] <Titan8990> mazda01_, http://linux.com/archive/feature/132006
[16:29] <ztw4726> haanuj: development is at alpha stage, very early, not released
[16:29] <kedar1> haanuj -- it means bleeding edge where you bleed with pleasure  :)
[16:30] <mazda01_> s not going to matter if you're behind a router unless you forward all those ports. if you're behind a hardware firewall just make sure none of the ports are forwarded or open
[16:30] <ztw4726> haanuj: stable ubuntu is still jaunty
[16:30] <bazhang> haanuj, karmic is alpha software---> #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[16:30] <haanuj> kedar1 : ok
[16:30] <LinuxGold> is there any good network map software for Ubuntu?
[16:30] <v4vijayakumar1> I am using ev-do wireless USB dongle (from, ZTE) for my internet connection. in a forum, I read that "some versions of Ubuntu do not perform as well with wireless (signal strength wise)." is it true ?! (2)
[16:30] <haanuj> thanx
[16:30] <th0r> thepeon: I assume you can ping to the server and have port 22 open to there as well. Do you have the same hosts file in both machines?
[16:30] <richardcavell> mazda01_: I have done that.  But what are the ports doing?
[16:30] <burkmat> LinuxGold, nmap? :)
[16:30] <Titan8990> LinuxGold, if you are talking about visio similar, no
[16:30] <nownot> does anyone here have ubuntu on their ps3?
[16:30] <Titan8990> LinuxGold, scanning then there is nmap
[16:31] <LinuxGold> visio similar
[16:31] <mazda01_> richardcavell: they are listening only on your internal network. they are services that you're running.
[16:31] <Titan8990> LinuxGold, yep... nothing close
[16:31] <LinuxGold>  I guess I will give cacti weathermap a try.
[16:31] <th0r> thepeon: and are you watching /var/log/messages on the server? it should show when ssh attempts to connect
[16:31] <mazda01_> th0r: don
[16:31] <mazda01_> th0r: doesn't ssh attempts get logged to auth.log
[16:31] <richardcavell> mazda01_: I didn't get them a little while ago.  Which services are they?
[16:31] <LinuxGold> Wish Spiceworks works on Linux.
[16:31] <th0r> mazda01_: I think so there too....but I always just checked messages
[16:31] <MuitAdrenalina> register
[16:32] <ztw4726> th0r: /var/log/auth.log would be better
[16:32] <th0r> ok... thepeon tail /var/log/auth.log ... (bowing to the majority)
[16:32] <mazda01_> richardcavell: you'd have to look them up on the internet. just goggle them.
[16:32] <LinuxGold> lol
[16:32] <nannes> LinuxGold: System > Administration > Network Tools   or   nmap (sudo apt-get install nmap) but it's without GI
[16:33] <mazda01_> Titan8990: can I uninstall exim4 safely and just use sSMTP then? I did sudo aptitude install mailutils and it installed a whole mess of stuff
[16:33] <LinuxGold> nannes: thanks, it sucks to be the only IT person in 300 workstations environment.
[16:33] <nannes> LinuxGold: ahahah
[16:34] <LinuxGold> and 14 Cisco switches
[16:34] <thepeon> th0r, entries about crons and accessing root
[16:34] <nannes> LinuxGold:  nmap is the best however
[16:34] <Titan8990> mazda01, aptitude remove exim4 && aptitude auto-clean
[16:34] <LinuxGold> I'll give nmap a try -- but I need to be able to analyze quickly to be able to have time for other things.
[16:34] <th0r> thepeon: then ssh isn't being accessed...you aren't making it to the server. Can you ping the server ip?
[16:34] <thepeon> th0r, yes
[16:35] <Titan8990> LinuxGold, maybe you should have made documentation around the implementation stage....
[16:35] <th0r> thepeon: you are going through a wifi router?
[16:35] <LinuxGold> hmm....
[16:35] <thepeon> th0r, no
[16:35] <Titan8990> LinuxGold, good network docuementation > all
[16:36] <th0r> thepeon: just an ethernet hub or switch?
[16:36] <DefunctProcess> To add a new samba share anually I just edit smb.conf and add path = /home/usr and restart samba daemon yes?
[16:36] <LinuxGold> titan8990: have you tried Spiceworks?
[16:36] <thepeon> th0r, switch and router, but the router is allowing access reversely (ssh from server to desktop)
[16:37] <kedar1> ok guys, here is a question that is probably asked many times. so, apologies in advance --
[16:37] <th0r> thepeon: you can ssh server to desktop but not the other way?
[16:37] <thepeon> th0r, yep
[16:37] <burkmat> !ask | kedar1
[16:37] <kedar1> If you are hosting your own "server" ubuntu machine, what is a very good resource for sys admins -- I wan to do the things "right".
[16:38] <wet> how can i boot my ubuntu 9.04 desktop edition without x window/gnome? i want to use my ubuntu desktop edition like a server edition.
[16:38] <th0r> thepeon: is there a firewall? sounds like a firewall policy for port 22 that only works in one direction
[16:38] <thepeon> th0r, not that I have set up
[16:38] <nannes> kedar1: what?
[16:38] <burkmat> !nogui
[16:38] <kedar1> The question is about "Where to Start" (sorry for the disappointment in question ;))
[16:38] <mike_s> hi...i have connected my acer aspire 1694wlmi (ubuntu 8.04.3, ATI mobility X700) via s-video to my tv! everything looks good...but how can i adjust the screen resolution on my tv...because i cant see the whole desktop??
[16:39] <LinuxGold> kedar1: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[16:39] <burkmat> kedar1, What do you want your server to do?
[16:39] <thepeon> th0r the router firewall is only set up to firewall from the outside, not the internal side of the network
[16:39] <th0r> thepeon: there is no entry in auth.log so it appears the ssh request is never reaching the server. I would look real close at the router and the switch.
[16:39] <kedar1> LinuxGold -- thanks :)
[16:39] <_Lucretia_> hi, i'm on 8.04 and want to upgrade, but the "sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade" fails to find any upgrades, what am i missing?
[16:39] <burkmat> thepeon, what is the exact command line you use when trying to ssh to the server?
[16:39] <kedar1> burkmat -- I want it to be on the Internet :) (scary, I think)
[16:39] <th0r> thepeon: (there is something buried under years of dust...something about those darn switches)
[16:39] <thepeon> ssh mike@192.168.1.1
[16:40] <MrKorrupt> hey ppl
[16:40] <MrKorrupt> :-(
[16:40] <LinuxGold> hi korrupt
[16:40] <nannes> kedar1:   -.- what do you want your server to do?
[16:40] <thepeon> th0r, I'll take another look
[16:40] <th0r> thepeon: just use the ip...ssh 192.168.1.1
[16:40] <MrKorrupt> im having problems with my ubuntu 9.04
[16:40] <kedar1> nannes -- I want it to host my web applications.
[16:40] <MrKorrupt> it doesnt play the sound
[16:40] <thepeon> th0r, tried that as well
[16:40] <MrKorrupt> is anyone willing to help me
[16:40] <burkmat> thepeon, probably sound stupid, but are you sure 192.168.1.1 is your server and not the router? ^^
[16:41] <th0r> burkmat: that was my next question <smile>
[16:41] <thepeon> opps, sorry, ip is 192.168.1.103
[16:41] <burkmat> lol
[16:41] <ztw4726> thepeon: try   nc 192.168.1.1 22   you should see something like: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2
[16:41] <burkmat> thepeon, does it work with `ssh mike@192.168.1.103`? :P
[16:41] <nannes> kedar1: so you need to install apache web server, mysql (with phpmyadmin) and when it's all ready you have to register to a static DNS SERVER for example dynDNS
[16:41] <thepeon> burkmat, nope
[16:42] <kedar1> nannes- correct. I gather that.
[16:42] <th0r> thepeon: or you can telnet to port 22 and see the same I think
[16:42] <thepeon> ztw4726, would I run that on the server or client?
[16:42] <burkmat> thepeon, do what ztw4726 said, but with the right ip. `nc 192.168.1.103 22`.
[16:42] <MrKorrupt> anyone :-(
[16:42] <burkmat> thepeon, client.
[16:42] <nannes> kedar1: it's to obtain an hostname which is always associated to your IP
[16:42] <kedar1> But I need to make sure that I know where to look for when "system problems" strike
[16:42] <ztw4726> thepeon: on the client if 192.168.1.1 is the servers's ip
[16:42] <kedar1> I think going from a "hosted service" to your own machines hosting your applications is a great leap ...
[16:43] <_Lucretia_> ok, found it
[16:43] <mazda01_> Titan8990: actually installing sSMTP removed exim4 and all it's dependencies
[16:43] <kedar1> I want to do it step by step, if possible.
[16:43] <thepeon> ztw4726 burkmat it's sitting, no connection no error yet
[16:43] <kedar1> I am willing to learn by going wrong, but need to know a good starting point.
[16:43] <Titan8990> mazda01, nice, a server can only have one smtp server
[16:43] <th0r> thepeon: yeah...you aren't making the trip to the server...the router or switch is blocking it
[16:43] <nannes> kedar1: LinuxGold told you yet... GOOGLE!
[16:43] <kedar1> :)
[16:44] <ztw4726> thepeon: then you cannot reach the server on tcp port 22
[16:44] <burkmat> kedar1, Well, for a webserver just install Ubuntu Server with LAMP and start playing around. It's all there.
[16:44] <kedar1> google, yes, of course. But there are some issues i think
[16:44] <ztw4726> thepeon: check if any iptables rules on the server block incoming traffic
[16:44] <LinuxGold> cough, is sshd up and running?
[16:44] <burkmat> thepeon, on server, `iptables -L`
[16:44] <kedar1> e.g. free vs System Monitor, your system's syslog etc. Basic disk partitioning ...
[16:45] <kedar1> burkmat -- yes, I have done just that.
[16:45] <ztw4726> LinuxGold: if sshd wasn't running he would get "connection refused"
[16:45] <th0r> thepeon: and while you are on the server....'ps ax | grep sshd' and make sure the ssh server is running
[16:45] <mazda01_> Titan8990: /usr/local/ssmtp/etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf  isn't even there? I am doing a locate on it now
[16:45] <kedar1> yes, I will keep on playing with it and coming back to #ubuntu which is a great resource!
[16:45] <Samm> I am having a problem with my Atheros Wlan adapter.  I am running Ubuntu 9.04. My HP Atheros was working fine until today when I turned it on, it would connect to my wireless network but would see other networks in the Network Applet. So, to see if it would help, I opened System>Administration>Hardware Drivers and enables the madwifi drivers and rebooted, and I could not see any networks at all. I rebooted into Windows (which I only use for
[16:45] <nannes> kedar1: you'll find those thing, too
[16:45] <LinuxGold> kedarl: BTW, welcome!
[16:45] <thepeon> th0r, yest, it's running
[16:45] <nannes> kedar1: only if you start googling
[16:45] <thepeon> burkmat: what I'm i looking for in the iptables?
[16:45] <Titan8990> mazda01, try /etc/ssmtp
[16:46] <LinuxGold> kedarl: I suggest linuxquestions.org
[16:46] <burkmat> thepeon, Any rules regarding port 22. if this was a clean install though you shouldn't have any rules?
[16:46] <LinuxGold> and lurk there.
[16:46] <th0r> thepeon: is the server in service right now or it is new? I would disable iptables rules for now
[16:46] <LinuxGold> the more you read, the more you will learn
[16:47] <kedar1>   Thanks LinuxGold. I will park on LinuxQuestions.org
[16:47] <kedar1> How about Ubuntu forums?
[16:47] <LinuxGold> that too
[16:47] <LinuxGold> linuxquestions is more geared at linux by itself.
[16:47] <LinuxGold> the more you learn about linux, the more you will be able to understand ubuntu
[16:47] <nannes> kedar1: I suggest you to use Ubuntu Server Edition
[16:47] <thepeon> burkmat ztw4726 nothing for port 22
[16:48] <ztw4726> thepeon: how did you check?
[16:48] <burkmat> thepeon, Just making sure here: You have a Server connected to a LAN port on a router which does not firewall internal traffic, and on the same router you have, also plugged into a LAN port, a switch, and to that you have your client? So the only "smart" device between Server and Client is a router, which is not the culprit?
[16:48] <th0r> thepeon: it might not be  specific to port 22.
[16:48] <mazda01_> Titan8990: found it, can you suggest what I need to change to have it so that gmail smtp servers sends mail or don't I need to do that?
[16:48] <nannes> kedar1: about partitions... as you like!! for example create a new partition for /tmp and format it with ReiserFS
[16:48] <thepeon> burkmat yes (but switch is between router and server
[16:48] <LinuxGold> (I'm thinking if apache is up and running, should thepeon check if he is able to see it from desktop?)
[16:49] <kedar1> Thank you folks. I agree, the more I know of Linux, the more I will enjoy Ubuntu.
[16:49] <burkmat> thepeon, Alright.
[16:49] <nannes> kedar1: another partition for /var/  (for example on ext3 or ext4 if compatibility is ok)
[16:49] <LinuxGold> kedarl: if someone advise you to do "rm -rf /"  DO NOT DO IT!
[16:49] <th0r> thepeon: is this server in active service or new?
[16:49] <thepeon> th0r, new
[16:49] <burkmat> !danger | LinuxGold
[16:50] <nannes> kedar1: and another also for the webserver files, and certainly you mustn't forget root partition with all the rest
[16:50] <th0r> thepeon: then I would suggest flushing all the iptables rules momentarily to see if the firewall is the culprit (iptables -F on the server)
[16:50] <Samm> Running Ubuntu 9.04, I am unable to connect on a HP-Atheros AR242x. This morning I couldn't connect, but could see networks using the Network Applet. To try and remedy the problem, I enabled madwifi, and now I can see no networks, neither in Ubuntu nor Windows. I disable the madwifi drivers, but the problem persists. Anything I can do to fix my wlan card?
[16:51] <thepeon> th0r: trying now, looks like it's going to timeout again
[16:51] <ztw4726> thepeon: does the server have more than one ethernet interface?
[16:51] <maui> hi guys, ive got a porable sound recorder which won't work on my pc, i had the drivers installed but its just not seen, any idea? thanks
[16:51] <LinuxGold> Gotta cook lunch for family.
[16:51] <LinuxGold> bbl
[16:51] <th0r> thepeon: is there a firewall on the desktop?
[16:52] <thepeon> ztw4726, yes, but it's not currently connected
[16:52] <burkmat> ztw4726, Good question. ;)
[16:52] <thepeon> th0r, no
[16:52] <th0r> thepeon: then it is a problem in the router....has to be
[16:52] <burkmat> th0r, or sshd is listening on the wrong NIC!
[16:52] <th0r> burkmat: he said he could ping the server and ssh server to desktop, so the nic should be good
[16:53] <th0r> burkmat: ...oh...didn't think of that (doooh)
[16:53] <lenswipe> if im logged into an ubuntu machine through ssh and there is a local user logged in is there a way to have a message box appear on the local users screen?
[16:53] <ztw4726> thepeon: try running tcpdump on the server's interface which is connected to the switch: sudo tcpdump -ni ethX   (where X could be 0 or 1)
[16:53] <lenswipe> this is on ubuntu with GNOME desktop environment
[16:53] <lenswipe> anyone know?
[16:54] <NEBAP> can someone tell me how I can add the peoples list in xchat?
[16:54] <narcoclepsy> does anyone know how i can "reset" pulse audio? ever since i used alsamixer once, pulse audio seems to have given up
[16:54] <ztw4726> burkmat: if the server is listening on the wrong nic, he still would get "connection refused" (tcp reset)
[16:54] <narcoclepsy> my volume control has become ineffetive.
[16:54] <burkmat> ztw4726, Ah... True. must be something dropping packets rather than rejecting...
[16:55] <ztw4726> burkmat: that's why i suggested running tcpdump on the server
[16:55] <thepeon> ztw4726, ok, now what am i looking for with the tcpdump?
[16:55] <Samm> Running Ubuntu 9.04, I am unable to connect on a HP-Atheros AR242x. This morning I couldn't connect, but could see networks using the Network Applet. To try and remedy the problem, I enabled madwifi, and now I can see no networks, neither in Ubuntu nor Windows. I disable the madwifi drivers, but the problem persists. Anything I can do to fix my wlan card?
[16:55] <ztw4726> thepeon: you look for tcp port 22 packets
[16:55] <jonex_> Slowwwww wirelessssss
[16:55] <lenswipe> ztw4726, you got any ideas about that?
[16:56] <ztw4726> lenswipe: hmm?
[16:56] <nio> test
[16:56] <lenswipe> ztw4726, im logged into a box thru ssh and someone else is loged in locally, how do i have a message box appear on their screen (i have root privaliges)
[16:56] <nannes> nio: it works! :D
[16:57] <thepeon> ztw4726, ok, not seeing anything and I tried connecting from the client with tcpdump running
[16:57] <ztw4726> lenswipe: use the  write  command
[16:57] <thepeon> I think I need to dig through my router
[16:57] <jonex_> i'm having slow wirelessss
[16:57] <nio> ?
[16:57] <lenswipe> ztw4726, ooh, how do i do that? is it just "write <<message>>"
[16:57] <lenswipe> like that?
[16:57] <th0r> thepeon: yup...I would look close at that router
[16:57] <ztw4726> thepeon: then the packets aren't physically arriving on the server
[16:58] <thepeon> th0r, ok,  just looked and realized I wasn't running my firewall
[16:58] <ztw4726> thepeon: try ping and see if tcpdump shows that
[16:58] <Bookman> I don't seem to be able to print to my printer at all times.  I started my computer up, printed a one page simple document.  All went well.  Now I try to print a 65 page pdf document and no luck.  When I go the the Printers dialog box, it says it may not be connected.
[16:58] <burkmat> ztw4726, I think lenswipe is trying to write to a GNOME Session, is that even possible with `write`?
[16:58] <Samm> !msg | Samm
[16:58] <thepeon> ztw4726, seeing the ping
[16:58] <th0r> thepeon: just run a crossover cable between the desktop and the server...that would verify ssh is running and that the problem is elsewhere
[16:58] <ztw4726> burkmat: write can only write to other user's terminals if the have   mesg y   set
[16:59] <burkmat> ztw4726, aye, as I thought.
[16:59] <th0r> thepeon: but I am pretty sure it will be in the router or the switch
[16:59] <lenswipe> ztw4726, but i was wanting to have  a msg box appear on their screen
[16:59] <th0r> thepeon: is it a smart switch?
[16:59] <lenswipe> like windows netsend
[16:59] <ztw4726> thepeon: then something IS filtering the port 22 traffic
[16:59] <lenswipe> but a local version
[16:59] <burkmat> thepeon, can you try connecting the client and server to the same switch?
[16:59] <ztw4726> thepeon: you pinged the server from the client, right?
[16:59] <thepeon> th0r, nope, netgear fast switch
[17:00] <thepeon> ztw4726, yes
[17:00] <Samm> Running Ubuntu 9.04, I am unable to connect on a HP-Atheros AR242x. This morning I couldn't connect, but could see networks using the Network Applet. To try and remedy the problem, I enabled madwifi, and now I can see no networks, neither in Ubuntu nor Windows. I disable the madwifi drivers, but the problem persists. Anything I can do to fix my wlan card?
[17:00] <ztw4726> lenswipe: if you have root privs, you can copy the .Xauthority from the user who is logged in graphically, set the DISPLAY variable to :0 and run xmessage or something
[17:01] <lenswipe> ztw4726, thanks, would zenity be any use?
[17:01] <thepeon> burkmat, connecting both to the router first (so I don't lose you guys
[17:01] <ztw4726> lenswipe: should work
[17:01] <brodymcd> could someone help me with a partition question?
[17:01] <JonathanEllis> I have a folder in Trash that I dont have permission to delete. How do I get rid of it?
[17:02] <th0r> brodymcd: depends on the question
[17:02] <ztw4726> lenswipe: but you still need to copy the .Xauthority file from the user to get display permission on the X server
[17:02] <lenswipe> ztw4726, thanks :)
[17:02] <Samm> No one, then?
[17:02] <lenswipe> yh
[17:02] <Bookman> I see the following in my system log: serial8250: too much work for irq17
[17:02] <lenswipe> ztw4726, unless i use root :P
[17:02] <ztw4726> lenswipe: even with root
[17:02] <edbian> JonathanEllis: You could give yourself permission using the "chown" command.
[17:02] <ztw4726> lenswipe: X display permissions do not make use of UIDs
[17:03] <JonathanEllis> edbian: Thanks. What is the path to items in trash?
[17:03] <lenswipe> ztw4726, dang
[17:03] <edbian> JonathanEllis: Good question!  I'm not really sure. :)
[17:03] <ztw4726> lenswipe: but when you are root, you can read the user's .Xautority file
[17:03] <Halitech> JonathanEllis, your personal trash is ~/.trash
[17:04] <MT-> ok.... what package do I need to install to make notify-osd work!? I've installed gnome-osd, libxosd2, notify-osd, osdsh, xosd-bin, what else do I need to install??
[17:04] <lenswipe> ztw4726, right thanks
[17:04] <edbian> JonathanEllis: It's a hidden folder in your /home directory: "/home/JonathanEllis/.Trash"
[17:04] <brodymcd> I have vista dual-boot system, and I thought I only had Vista, Dell Recovery, Ubuntu and a swap partition... I want to take the remaining area and make it a data partition, but it says I already have 4... how to make this work? Image of gparted here... http://img.waffleimages.com/4f73e950cf05dc435c66549b400d3faf91544527/Screenshot--dev-sda%20-%20GParted-1.png
[17:05] <floating> what's a good system monitor tool that would add a tray icon showing the current cpu load from there ?
[17:05] <th0r> Halitech: JonathanEllis in jaunty I think trash was moved to ~/.local/share/Trash
[17:05] <Bookman> Ok, confirmed.  It will print a one page document, but nothing more.
[17:05] <edbian> floating: There is a panel applet called "system monitor" that lets you put little monitoring windows on th panel.
[17:06] <Gamma-X> whats the command to delete a directory and its sub contents?
[17:06] <JonathanEllis> th0r: Thanks. Found that
[17:06] <edbian> Gamma-X: sudo rm -r <directory>
[17:06] <Gamma-X> edbian, Thanks!
[17:06] <Padhu> Gamma-X : rm -rf
[17:06] <edbian> Gamma-X: NP
[17:06] <floating> edbian: oh it does. I have it actually open, but when i minimize it I dont get it in tray. quickly checking the options I could not find either but
[17:07] <burkmat> !trash
[17:07] <edbian> floating: There are 2 things called "system monitor"  The actual program which is located in System -> Admin and the panel applet.  You can add the panel applet by right clicking an empty spot on the panel and "adding to panel..."  Then select system monitor.  It doesn't go in the notification area but it does go on the panel.
[17:08] <edbian> floating: "System Monitor" the app IS NOT the same as "System Monitor Panel Applet"
[17:08] <floating> edbian: thanks, found it
[17:08] <edbian> floating: Awesome!
[17:12] <Bookman> Could anyone help with my printer problem?
[17:13] <unixbocx> hello room
[17:13] <Ravahan> Hello all.  Does anyone here have any experience with Getlibs?
[17:13] <caveman2> hello all
[17:13] <unixbocx> can someone help out with a dhcp problem
[17:13] <kari> hello
[17:13] <unixbocx> can someone help out with a dhcp server problem
[17:14] <durt> folks, just ask your questions if someone knows they'll answer.
[17:14] <burkmat> !ask | unixbocx
[17:14] <tobi__> hello
[17:15] <th0r> brodymcd: you can have only four primary partitions, but you can create an extended partition for data
[17:15] <tobi__> sup
[17:15] <kari> anyone knows your broblem but, all guys is so lazy
[17:15] <dnet1> defan
[17:15] <dnet1> hai - hai aq fandhi
[17:15] <caveman2> where can I find  a generic video driver for Ubuntu?
[17:15] <tobi__> how are u talking to me unless u have linex??
[17:16] <durt> caveman2, the vesa-server is as generic as they come.
[17:16] <candrodor> How important is it to have a separate /boot partition?
[17:16] <Halitech> caveman2, linux comes with generic drivers
[17:16] <tobi__> i dont no
[17:16] <unixbocx> ok, thanks, i have a ubuntu server running with dhcp server running on it,(two nic cards) i can dhcp out to my cable modem to get online now but how do i get my linksys router to be part of the internat network to the rest of the other machines, dhcp is turned off on the router..
[17:16] <dnet1> haha salome
[17:16] <Halitech> candrodor, unless you are planning multiple installs of linux distros, its not important to have a seperate /boot
[17:17] <kari> listen to all the drivers, ubuntu should be updated by itself
[17:17] <dnet1> opo ndeso
[17:17] <Ravahan> Hello, can anyone give me a hand using Getlibs?  I'm trying to install a 32 bit program on 64 bit jaunty.  getlibs says to "Make sure you have all repositories enabled and updated", but I'm really not exactly sure how to do that and google seems to just be confusing me at the moment.
[17:17] <bazhang> dnet1, English please
[17:17] <ztw4726> unixbocx: you must enable IP forwarding and NAT on the ubuntu server
[17:19] <unixbocx> ok, i will look into that but can my linksys router be inbetween mt server and the rest of the network, can it act like a hub without using the uplink port
[17:19] <unixbocx> my server
[17:19] <Bookman>  I don't seem to be able to print to my printer at all times.  I started my computer up, printed a one page simple document.  All went well.  Now I try to print a 65 page pdf document and no luck.  When I go the the Printers dialog box, it says it may not be connected.
[17:19] <EDinNY> why doesn't evolution know what programs to open to view attachments?
[17:19] <ztw4726> unixbocx: i don't know anything about your linksys router
[17:19] <EDinNY> It used to
[17:20] <Ravahan> unixbocx: In order to get your linksys router to behave like a hub, you'll have to use one of the numbered ports for the incoming connection
[17:20] <EDinNY> it used to before I upgraded from ubuntu to 9.04 kubuntu
[17:20] <unixbocx> ok, i do have it set up like that now, i get a limited or no connection on the winbox
[17:21] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Okay, is the Linksys set on the same IP range as the dhcp server?
[17:21] <ztw4726> unixbocx: if the linksys is a router (not a switch), you won't get any dhcp over it, because a dhcp request is a broadcast. broadcasts cannot be routed.
[17:22] <unixbocx> i was looking into that but can't seem to log back into my router on 192.168.1.1
[17:22] <brodymcd> th0r: how can I create an extended partition? When I hit "new" it says I can't... how do I create extended without deleting one of the 4 primary?
[17:22] <Ravahan> ztw4726: I actually had a Linksys router doing passthrough from a Netgear, so it can be done
[17:23] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Right, it won't let you log into it without an IP Address...
[17:23] <unixbocx> i believe i did yesterday get one winbox to come online throught eth1
[17:23] <george1> hi, im wondering if anyone can tell me how to set the CPU multiplier?...  thanks
[17:23] <acdspit00> whats up
[17:23] <ztw4726> Ravahan: well i don't know many routers. i always use linux boxes for routing.
[17:23] <unixbocx> but i didn't have the router connected
[17:24] <uBUNTUVISTA> Hi does anyone know where to get 9.04 ubuntu themes?
[17:24] <Halitech> george1, depending on the motherboard, it may be a jumper on the board or a setting in the BIOS
[17:24] <uBUNTUVISTA> like to make it look like mac or windows etc -
[17:24] <PoisonSerpent> @ubuntuvista. Google should help.
[17:24] <PoisonSerpent> Hold on a sec.
[17:24] <lightningseed> uBUNTUVISTA: gnomelook.org
[17:24] <uBUNTUVISTA> more modern* look thats all
[17:24] <unixbocx> what i'm trying to do is still use the linksys routers wifi
[17:24] <ztw4726> unixbocx: so how is the winbox connected to the ubuntu server now?
[17:24] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Ah okay
[17:24] <kpkeerthi> www.gnome-look.org
[17:24] <acdspit00> i was wondering  if anyone had a good link for what services I can disable with BUM on a Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[17:25] <unixbocx> it's not it's going through the linksys router now and not connecting
[17:25] <uBUNTUVISTA> ty ty guys
[17:25] <khensthoth> uBUNTUVISTA: Try this http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/9-great-gnome-themes-with-ubuntu.html
[17:26] <Ravahan> unixbocx: I had a similar problem, and what I found out from a friend of mine was that the wireless part of the router and the wired part are different devices.  At least with the wireless device I was using, it was not possible to enable wireless IP Passthrough as broadcast would just turn off whenever I disabled DHCP
[17:26] <uBUNTUVISTA> Ok thanks X I will look now at bothh Gnome-Look and WEBUP8
[17:26] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Would it be possible to rearrange the network so that you have the wireless access point providing the dhcp?
[17:26] <ztw4726> Ravahan: what you f*** stupid device
[17:26] <george1> halitech, my system was running really slow and i realised that although ubuntu recognises the cpu as 1.6Ghz it runs it at 600Mhz or at least thats what the CPU monitor is telling me. i should have worded my question differently.  is there a way to force it to stay at 1.6Ghz?
[17:26] <Bookman> Ok, my printer error seems to be an evince bug
[17:26] <ztw4726> Ravahan: s/you/a/
[17:27] <Halitech> george1, probably using cpu scaling which is usually set in the BIOS
[17:27] <uBUNTUVISTA> khensthoth omg those themes are perfect! so nice!
[17:27] <ztw4726> Ravahan: sorry, typo
[17:27] <uBUNTUVISTA> khensthoth thankyou!!!!
[17:27] <Ravahan> ztw4726: lol I was wondering
[17:27] <khensthoth> uBUNTUVISTA: Glad you like them.
[17:27] <unixbocx> ok this is what i was hoping to do, Cable box > ubuntuserver on eth0(dhcp'd) > eth1 out to router > wireless out to any other devices, dhcp giving ips out from the ubuntu server
[17:28] <george1> Halitech, i know you can set it in the bios but ubuntu has it built in to the os which seems to be over riding that?...
[17:28] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Is there any particular reason that you need the Ubuntu server to be in the front?
[17:28] <uBUNTUVISTA> khensthoth E: Couldn't find package tropical-theme
[17:28] <uBUNTUVISTA> khensthoth its not working :(
[17:29] <Halitech> george1, do you have cpu scaling turned off in the BIOS?
[17:29] <c0ntract0r> How can I record a video stream inside firefox in ubuntu? I'm fairly oriented, just don't know which addon/app...?
[17:29] <george1> Halitech, im not sure.  are you thinking that if i turn it off then ubuntu wont be able to limit the CPU?
[17:29] <th0r> brodymcd: I assume you are in gnome, so gparted is the utility to use. I haven't had much experience with a lot of partitions...always just had two primary and put the rest into extended partitions. You might check here for more info....http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/index.html
[17:29] <noquinho> oi, tudo bem ?
[17:30] <Halitech> george1, yes, it 'idles' down to save power when it doesn't need to run at full speed
[17:30] <PoisonSerpent> Does anybody know what invalid ROM contents mean?
[17:30] <unixbocx> i was having trouble getting godaddy to redirect to my dyndns with ddclient , i would get my router loging screen so i thought i'd but my server in front and get the ip address the cable box give, which would make godaddys record easier,
[17:31] <PoisonSerpent> *means?
[17:31] <unixbocx> Arecord
[17:31] <george1> Halitech, ok but the system seems to be eating my cpu. xorg is constantly running at a minimum of 30%
[17:31] <Ravahan> unixbocx: What I would advise you try is this; If you need open access on the server, set up DMZ to the Ubuntu server on a static IP with the router in front.  That way you don't have to turn off the DHCP on the router.  If you still need the port in your server for space concerns, you can bridge the connection
[17:32] <acdspit00> anyone know of a good BUM guide for disabling unneeded services/boot up items with Ubuntu netbook version
[17:32] <rkpisanu> c0ntract0r, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
[17:32] <c0ntract0r> thanks very much friend
[17:32] <unixbocx> i was looking into that DMZ but would my ip address still be dhcp'd from the router
[17:33] <unixbocx> for the server
[17:33] <Halitech> george1, the system is going to use what it needs, you can either disable the cpu scaling and run full speed all the time or leave it and when it needs the speed it will bump the speed up
[17:33] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Well, it could be, but you can also just set up a static IP.  There's a way to automaticly load a static IP in Ubuntu rather that setting it up at each boot, and you'll wanna do that.  Hold on, let me see if I can find the link for ya
[17:34] <Ravahan> unixbocx: I stumbled across it recently
[17:34] <unixbocx> ok thanks
[17:35] <unixbocx> i was concerned that i wouldn't be able to get the A record in godaddy to point to my server
[17:35] <george1> halitech, i think im just stuck with ubuntu running really slowly then! never mind. thanks for your help.  at the risk of being hung drawn and quartered; is there another os that is less cpu intensive?  lol
[17:36] <unixbocx> i have no problem getting dyndns to work find even if the server is behind the router and can even have more websites hosted with apache virtual host
[17:36] <Halitech> george1, if you know ubuntu and like how it works you could go Debian, its no harder the Ubuntu is anymore
[17:36] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Here's a guide on how to setup a static IP in Ubuntu Server.  http://tinyurl.com/2u8ufw
[17:36] <Ravahan> unixbocx: If that doesn't get you up and running, then you've not lost anything but a few minutes as that's all easily reversable, but you could save yourself a lot of headache
[17:36] <george1> halitech, many thanks
[17:37] <warinthepocket> quick question - where is the xorg config file? i would expect it in /etc/X11/, but that's blank
[17:37] <dtchen> warinthepocket: that's expected and normal for common video drivers
[17:37] <Halitech> warinthepocket, it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:37] <sidewalk> just bought a 1tb disk, external, usb, what filesystem do you guys recommend to run on it? there is some msdos thing on it now
[17:38] <warinthepocket> sidewalk: ZFS!
[17:38] <Halitech> warinthepocket, make sure you are putting X11 and not x11
[17:38] <Ravahan> unixbocx: I've not personally hosted a website out of my home, but it shouldn't be an issue I wouldn't think.  I've never known someone who ran a site directly plugged into their cable modem
[17:38] <quickhand> I have a convertible touchscreen eee pc T91, but it doesn't recognize the video adapter.  I end up in standard vesa.  Can anyone help?
[17:38] <Ravahan> unixbocx: I hope that helps some
[17:39] <sidewalk> warinthepocket: windows doesnt read zfs right?
[17:39] <warinthepocket> sidewalk: nope
[17:39] <unixbocx> thanks Ravahan, you've been a big help, shame my nickname is unixbocx and asking simple unix box question lmao..
[17:39] <Halitech> sidewalk, will is be shared with windows boxes?
[17:39] <warinthepocket> sidewalk: windows won't read half of the file systems you can use
[17:39] <Agat0n> Gah. I can't syncronize my iPod with Banshee nor gntpod.. It says "reading Joels iPod" but nothin happens
[17:39] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Hey, np man.  I'm glad to give something back here.  I've been pestering these guys off and on all week.
[17:40] <Agat0n> and in gtkpod it syncronizes but nothin gets transfered even thou gtkpod says it i
[17:40] <Agat0n> s
[17:40] <krishmish> someone help me set up skype in ubuntu???
[17:40] <warinthepocket> Halitech: xorg.conf is empty
[17:40] <Halitech> !skype
[17:40] <sidewalk> i might connect it to windows boxes
[17:40] <candrodor> krishmish: What's the problem?
[17:40] <Halitech> warinthepocket, it should have something
[17:40] <unixbocx> lol, ok, unplugging now to reset the network up and check out DMZ
[17:40] <krishmish> i cant hear my voice in the test call
[17:40] <warinthepocket> Halitech: not a thing
[17:41] <krishmish> candrodor: i set the audio options to pulse
[17:41] <Halitech> sidewalk, then if you might connect to windows, NTFS or FAT32 are your best options
[17:41] <sidewalk> okey, thanks :P
[17:41] <Halitech> warinthepocket, how are you opening it? cli or nautilus?
[17:41] <sidewalk> well, i dont have any windows boxes
[17:41] <warinthepocket> Halitech: less shows nothing, ls -l shows it's size is 0
[17:41] <sidewalk> maybe i should just go for zfs
[17:41] <warinthepocket> Halitech: cli
[17:41] <krishmish> candrodor: sound in : pulse
[17:41] <candrodor> krishmish: If it's the problem I had, you need to set Mic Boost on 'cause otherwise the mic won't come off loudly enough.
[17:41] <candrodor> nto sure.
[17:41] <sidewalk> how can i format the disk in ubuntu, is there some cute graphical interface?
[17:42] <Halitech> warinthepocket, did you make sure the X11 was X11 not x11?
[17:42] <warinthepocket> yep
[17:42] <warinthepocket> it's /etc/X11/
[17:42] <Halitech> sidewalk, partition editor
[17:42] <_42> sidewalk: yes sudo apt-get install gparted
[17:42] <thehook> can someone please kick and ban HrnyLindsey ? It's a spambot!
[17:42] <Zoffix> I suggest you ban HrnyLindsey; it's a bot that sends a /msg on /join: <HrnyLindsey> hi my name is lindsey im very horny please contact me on my page http://sxylindsey.webs.com i have pics and vids of my being cummed on my face
[17:42] <krishmish> candrodor: there is no mic boost option
[17:42] <sidewalk> thanks guys, you are the world! :-)
[17:43] <sidewalk> in the old days one used fdisk ;-)
[17:43] <candrodor> krishmish: double click on volume control up in top right corner by the time.  Edit- > Preferences -> Mic Boost and Mic Capture
[17:43] <sidewalk> or perhaps cfdisk
[17:43] <Halitech> warinthepocket, strange, usually at least has stuff that is commented out
[17:43] <Zoffix> Anyway, I'm failing to find which package contains `avisplit` I remember using that app to split AVI files into several pieces; aptitude avisplit shows no results neither does Synaptic Package Manager.... anyone know where I can get that app?
[17:43] <raar> Hi, since upgrade from 8.something to 9.something, firefox doesn't have flash sound for my user (it does for user root). Deleting ~/.mozilla does not make a change. When I run gstreamer-properties, with the same settings for user thomas and user root, it only makes test sound for user root. Any clue what could be wrong?
[17:43] <candrodor> krishmish: then go to the switches tab and tick Mic Boost.
[17:43] <Halitech> Zoffix, avidemux?
[17:43] <Zoffix> Halitech, hmr... just had it installed and it doesn't contain avisplit
[17:44] <Zoffix> Lemme check the man page if avidemux can split
[17:44] <sidewalk> oh
[17:44] <Halitech> Zoffix, I thought it did, if not there are other apps, check add/remove
[17:45] <candrodor> any luck, krishmish?
[17:45] <sidewalk> it doesn't seem to be able to create neither jfs nor xfs
[17:45] <warinthepocket> Halitech: X starts up fine, i'm just wanting to change the keymap to dvorak
[17:45] <sidewalk> ext3 and ext4 yes, and fat32 and some others, but not xfs or jfs
[17:45] <Zoffix> Hmr, it got --autosplit option to split every $x bytes... avisplit used to have the -t option to split on times :|
[17:45] <militant> just dropped in demoing linux to someone.  they're disturbed by the CLI it seems
[17:45] <Zoffix> wtf happened to that app :|
[17:45] <[victoria]> Do any of you use the Steam platform for gaming on linux?
[17:45] <krishmish> candrodor: not yet
[17:45] <ross_> in the latest version of ubuntu, where is the recycling bin located?
[17:45] <UBUNTUVISTA> hi
[17:45] <Halitech> warinthepocket, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg pretty much only does the keyboard now
[17:46] <UBUNTUVISTA> kenosethe
[17:46] <quickhand> So, anyone can help?  eee t91, video driver problems?
[17:46] <warinthepocket> hmm
[17:46] <candrodor> krishmish: I'm not sure if MicBoost will sort it or not, it's worth trying though, I think.  That's all.  Did you find it?
[17:46] <BillGates4ever> sidewalk: for xfs try sudo apt-get install xfsprogs then try gparted again
[17:46] <krishmish> candrodor: no...it isnt working here
[17:47] <Um_cara_qualquer> Is there a .kgb compressor for linux?
[17:47] <krishmish> candrodor: in fact , skype hung up
[17:47] <candrodor> I don't know then, I'm sorry.
[17:47] <Ffunk74> Hello. I have upgraded my xubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10. I found that process named gnome-volume-control-pulse eated 50% of processor time. But gnome-volume-control-pulse are not in the list of installed packages (aptitude did not find it), so I can't remove it.
[17:48] <Agat0n> Why can't I get my ipod to work with gtkpod or banshee ? It's gettin really annoyin
[17:49] <sobersabre> hi.
[17:49] <sobersabre> I have pasted this sources.list:http://paste.ubuntu.com/233276/
[17:49] <BillGates4ever> Agat0n: what generation ipod you have ? i know for quite a few you have to jail break them.
[17:49] <sobersabre> when running aptitude update, I am getting no errors.
[17:49] <sobersabre> when trying to run: apt-get build-dep subversion
[17:49] <Ffunk74> gen 3 works fine with gtkpod
[17:49] <ross_> in the latest version of ubuntu, where is the recycling bin located?
[17:50] <sobersabre> I am getting an error:
[17:50] <asmo> hallo
[17:50] <sobersabre> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty-backports_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[17:50] <bening> asmo: hallo
[17:51] <militant> sobersabre: it's looking for sources on the cd/dvd instead of on the net
[17:51] <sobersabre> militant: WHY ?! (I think I already know)
[17:51] <Agat0n> BillGates4ever: I have a ipod video, 80gb black
[17:51] <Zoffix> Halitech, I found it; avisplit is in ``transcode'' package.
[17:51] <militant> sobersabre: i'm a bit addled at the moment (sweetie is here) but it's your apt sources list
[17:52] <Agat0n> I've been tryin everything (which I can think of)
[17:52] <Halitech> Zoffix, ok, I have that installed :)
[17:52] <Bookman> I'm rather desperate here.  I cannot print a multipage pdf document.....
[17:52] <sobersabre> militant: thanks, enjoy the sweets... I'm bewildered.
[17:52] <dansa> hehe
[17:52] <militant> sobersabre: /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:52] <martijn81> how do i mount an img with fuseiso and read the contents as user from /media/iso ?
[17:52] <dansa> hey, what was that channel called ubuntu-$something where peopled talked about mathematics, logic, physics, philosophy, et cetera? i forgot
[17:53] <sobersabre> militant: I'm looking at it as "the goat at the new gate"
[17:53] <sobersabre> martijn81: you don't.
[17:53] <Halitech> !ot > dansa
[17:53] <sobersabre>  /media is for root user to write.
[17:54] <martijn81> sobersabre: and if i mount it in my home directory it would work?
[17:54] <Bookman> Is printing yet another weak spot for Linux maybe?
[17:54] <militant> sobersabre: huh?  all i know is your /etc/apt/sources.list or one of the others in that dir are pointing at the install disk instead of the network repos
[17:54] <darthanubis> lol
[17:54] <dansa> Halitech: i think that is right; thanks much!
[17:54] <Halitech> dansa, np
[17:54] <_Lucretia_> my upgrade from 8.04 -> 8.10 failed on updata-manager, it then stated that the upgrade will be aborted (this was at the last steps), I've tried to update the update-manager, but apt says it's the latest version
[17:55] <militant> i'm out gl :)
[17:55] <Agat0n> BillGates4ever: I'm tryin now again and when tryin to synconize it says "can't find the ipod firewire id"
[17:55] <dansa> hey, gnu ubuntu is lead by a company, right?
[17:55] <Agat0n> BillGates4ever: Do you know anythin about this? It bugs the heck out of me
[17:56] <bening> kanonikal?
[17:56] <BillGates4ever> Agat0n: I had an ipod touch ( not supported)  , any try Rhythmbox -> http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/03/how-to-manage-your-ipod-using-rhythmbox-in-ubuntu/
[17:56] <Agat0n> BillGates4ever: I'll give that a try, thanks
[17:56] <Halitech> dansa, its not gnu ubuntu, just ubuntu and yes, it is 'owned' by canocal
[17:56] <Bookman> Ok, no worries I'll boot into xp to get my work done.
[17:56] <k0d3r> hi  ;)
[17:56] <totolindo> ma qui si parla anche in italiano???
[17:57] <Halitech> !ubuntu > Halitech
[17:57] <Blooper> why is 'system:/media' empty?
[17:57] <Akranis> *canonical
[17:57] <mrb_> hey anybody knows how i can put emerald my default window manager as to run i have to run emerald --replace each time ?
[17:57] <Halitech> Akranis, thanks, can never get the spelling right on that :)
[17:57] <Akranis> :P
[17:58] <candrodor> Bookman: I'd love to know whether printing's a weak spot or not, but as it is, I can't get it to work.  trying to get a printer working by SAMBA, but it needs a driver, which I can't get because it's on a CD and I can't get the CD drive showing.  linux<3 hehe
[17:58] <Blooper> why is 'system:/media' empty when there are drives installed?
[17:58] <dansa> Halitech: what's canocal's take on the fsf stand that systems shouldnt include proprietary software?
[17:58] <Akranis> Does anyone here use blender and has gotten it to work alongside Compiz?
[17:58] <Blooper> why is 'system:/media' empty when there are drives installed?
[17:58] <Blooper> why is 'system:/media' empty when there are drives installed?
[17:58] <Blooper> why is 'system:/media' empty when there are drives installed?
[17:58] <FloodBot1> Blooper: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <Halitech> Blooper, /media is usually for removable drives
[17:58] <Blooper> and i have 4 devices in
[17:59] <candrodor> Do CDs count as removable?
[17:59] <Halitech> dansa, they don't include any for legal reasons
[17:59] <warinthepocket> :P
[17:59] <_Lucretia_> so, will i be able to reboot or not?
[17:59] <Blooper> they open with autoplay but wont appear in the folder
[17:59] <Halitech> Blooper, they could be going into /mnt
[17:59] <Blooper> ??
[17:59] <Bookman> candrodor: yeah, seems to be a weak spot....
[17:59] <warinthepocket> Blooper: media can be mounted anywhere on the system :P
[18:00] <Bookman> candrodor: I got my work done on an xp machine.
[18:00] <Blooper> but all my drives have been there before but now cannot be found
[18:00] <warinthepocket> Blooper: df -h
[18:00] <Ravahan> Okay, so I have the repository link for Gens/GS, and I have Software Sources up, but when I click on Add and paste it into the list of Third Party apps, the only option I get is "Cancel".  I'm sure I'm leaving out something that's common sense to a normal Linux user here.... Is this correct or should I be adding something before or after?   http://gs_server.gerbilsoft.ddns.info/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gens.git;a=summary
[18:01] <warinthepocket> Blooper: are the volumes mounted?
[18:01] <Blooper> yes
[18:01] <warinthepocket> Blooper: where are they mounted to?
[18:01] <mrb_> anyone with emerald experience on Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:01] <darthanubis> Ravahan: deb http://
[18:01] <candrodor> Do you need ot create the folder which you're mounting to in advance or does it get created and removed as it mounts/umounts?
[18:02] <warinthepocket> candrodor: the folder has to exist
[18:02] <darthanubis> candrodor: create the folder aka mount point
[18:02] <Ravahan> darthanubis: Okay, I'll try that again here.  Anything supposed to go on the end?
[18:02] <candrodor> So maybe my problem with the CD drive not showing is that there aren't any folders in /mnt or /media to be mounted to?
[18:02] <darthanubis> take a look at /etc/apt/source.lists for the correct format
[18:04] <Ravahan> darthanubis: Alright, I stuck a little text on the end and it'll let me add it.  Let me see if it actually functions.
[18:04] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:04] <Seracht> hi anyone know what extended ACLs are
[18:04] <magg> hi, i have a big problem, i need your help!!!
[18:04] <warinthepocket> candrodor: you can mount to /mnt or /media
[18:05] <Agat0n> BillGates4ever: Seems to be the same problem.. it just searches but finds nothin
[18:05] <candrodor> Only, the folders are there, but I didn't see them earlier.  Hm.  I'm just confused.
[18:05] <Halitech> warinthepocket, actually you can mount anywhere, I have 2 drives mounted in my home folder
[18:06] <Agat0n> Can I format my ipod in ubuntu?
[18:06] <rad182> hi anyone here familiar with ssh tunneling?
[18:06] <coz_> rad182,  if not here  try  #linux   channel :)
[18:06] <rad182> okay :D
[18:06] <magg> my ubuntu show NO INIT FOUND. TRY PASSING INIT=BOOTARG. ANY IDEA??
[18:07] <RandomTime> Agat0n: http://www.rockbox.org/
[18:07] <masterkoppa> Agat0n: Do you mean restore?
[18:07] <darthanubis> magg: reinstall
[18:07] <BillGates4ever> Agat0n: wish i could help you more , you could try mounting it manualy but quite complicated.
[18:07] <sobersabre> I'm getting this when running apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:07] <magg> if i reinstall, my programs will lose??
[18:08] <Agat0n> masterkoppa: Yeah, set it to 0
[18:08] <Stupendoussteve> Can someone tell me a quick way to strip the filepath from find results? I only want the filename, not the full path
[18:08] <sobersabre> is there no i386 packages on the main archive of canonical ?1
[18:08] <BillGates4ever> Agat0n: run dmesg | tail when you connnect it and paste bin the results for me.
[18:08] <Halitech> magg, yes
[18:08] <masterkoppa> Agaton: Well you need iTunes to do that and you can't run itunes under wine.
[18:09] <candrodor> How can I tell if there is a floppy disk being read and mounted to /media/floppy or not, given it may well be an empty disk?
[18:09] <jatt> hi, which is the Super Key? Compiz is configured on my laptop to use the Super Key to start the Expo effect.
[18:09] <Agat0n> masterkoppa: I can use me gals computer and reformat it
[18:09] <magg> sorry, its the unique solution??
[18:09] <th0r> candrodor: if it is mounted it will show up in the mount command
[18:09] <Stupendoussteve> You can also do it with VirtualBox if you have a Windows disc
[18:09] <masterkoppa> Agat0n: If it's windows or mac, yeah
[18:09] <Agat0n> Aight
[18:10] <masterkoppa> Agat0n: For the future you might want to search in the forums for a way to do this with Virtual Box
[18:10] <fixje> jatt: it's the windows key (on a windows keyboard)
[18:10] <Agat0n> masterkoppa: Sure, I'm havin a lg x110.. It's to slow for a virtualbox..
[18:10] <durt> jatt, super is one of the keys with a logo
[18:11] <kfan> when playing wop i can be in game for like 2-5 mins and ubuntu shuts down any suffestions?
[18:11] <Ravahan> Well, I'm not sure what I screwed up but Synaptic keeps telling me its already running so  I'm going to restart Ubuntu here.
[18:11] <jatt> durt: fixje: thanks you are right it's the Windows key :)
[18:12] <Agat0n> fat32 it should be, right?
[18:12] <candrodor> Thanks th0r!  Looks like the only removable thing I can get linux to pick up at the moment is my ipod.  funsies.
[18:13] <kfan> i have no sound on dv41155se
[18:13] <insomen4o> kfan: check linlap, i've fixed my sound from there
[18:13] <koltroll> hey guys. so my wifi card not showing when typing lspci or dmesg after it froze going into suspend mode has kinda been solved. I can activate the wlan card through bios. THO every time I turn off the computer and start it again the wlan card is automatically disabled again.
[18:13] <koltroll> Any ideas on how to solve this ?
[18:14] <zeno_> is there a command that copies the contents of a file to the clipboard?
[18:15] <JPSman> Hi, does wubi work with kubuntu?
[18:15] <pagoda> how do i get compiz working in jaunty?  i have a dell inspiron e1705
[18:16] <penyox41> mlm all
[18:17] <w_> há usuários de ubuntu linux  do brasil online agora?
[18:17] <magg> Hi, somebody can suggest me a good tutorial resource for learn to manage Linux??
[18:17] <jcastro> JPSman, yes, there's a dropdown box that let's you choose kubuntu, xubuntu, etc.
[18:18] <silv3r_m00n> in shell how to execute a command and return immediately
[18:18] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[18:18] <error404notfound> can someone install with this: http://pastebin.com/m717e3231
[18:18] <th0r> silv3r_m00n: if you add an ampersand (&) at the end of the command you will get the prompt immediately, but the command will continue in the background until completion
[18:19] <silv3r_m00n> fine
[18:20] <Agat0n> I really hope this works, I'm so tired of iTunes and windows but I can't live without my ipod..
[18:20] <mre_> error404notfound, hmm try -xvvf IP-Country-2.26.tar , is the file there ?
[18:21] <gajop> any smart way of seeing how your http server looks from the outside world?
[18:21] <agoole> gajop: point your browser to it ?
[18:21] <mre_> Agat0n,  have you tried mounting manualy ?
[18:22] <th0r> gajop: you can open firefox and type 'localhost'
[18:22] <v4vijayakumar1> I am using ev-do wireless USB dongle (from, ZTE) for my internet connection. in a forum, I read that "some versions of Ubuntu do not perform as well with wireless (signal strength wise)." is it true ?!
[18:22] <Agat0n> mre_: Yes, but I'm formating my ipod on me gals computer now
[18:22] <JPSman> jcastro, well I already downloaded the kubuntu ISO and would like to use that for my install instead of having wubi download an entire other copy of kubuntu
[18:22] <Agat0n> And I'll give it a go again
[18:22] <gajop> th0r, i'm aware, i was wondering about permissions and such
[18:22] <th0r> gajop: that should be the same server access the rest of the world gets
[18:22] <Agat0n> Format: Windows (Should be like that, rite?)
[18:23] <th0r> gajop: you can also address your public ip...it will go out to your isp and then come back in
[18:23] <martijn81> hi i can't get fuseiso to work on my own home directory, anynone can help please?
[18:23] <martijn81> $ ls -ltr
[18:23] <martijn81> ls: kan geen toegang krijgen tot iso: Toegang geweigerd
[18:23] <martijn81> totaal 698676
[18:23] <martijn81> d?????????  ? ?       ?               ?                ? iso
[18:23] <FloodBot1> martijn81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:23] <gajop> th0r, no, it won't, you usually can't access your ip if you're behind a router, at least i never managed to do it
[18:24] <Halitech> gajop, I know alot of people say they can't but it has always worked for me
[18:24] <th0r> gajop: I used to do it all the time...your default route should take the packet out, then the isp should reroute it back to you
[18:24] <XLV> gajop, use some proxy
[18:24] <HardDisk> tor
[18:24] <gajop> hm, ye, ok, thanks
[18:25] <XLV> yeah, tor.. also usually most ISPs got some proxy set up
[18:25] <kfan> anyone know why my computer would just shut down after being in world of padman for like 5 mins??
[18:25] <jai_> hi
[18:25] <jai_> hi
[18:25] <th0r> martijn81: what command are you using to mount the iso?
[18:25] <nsahoo> is there a utility to measure cpu speed ? Not from /proc/cpuinfo or from dmesg.
[18:25] <th0r> kfan: it didn't like the game?
[18:25] <etrcap> h
[18:25] <kfan> lol
[18:26] <Halitech> kfan, trying to tell you to do some work instead? :O
[18:26] <ctmjr> kfan: is it a laptop?
[18:26] <sobersabre> is there a utility to create automagically sources.list file ? like source-o-matic once used to do ?
[18:26] <kfan> yea
[18:26] <kfan> :( no work PADMAN lol
[18:26] <Halitech> nsahoo, system load monitor?
[18:26] <kfan> yes its a dv41155se
[18:26] <darthanubis> nsahoo: rt-click the panel and add the cpufreq applet. Anytime you are looking for an app to do X, search synaptic is the fastest and easiest way besides searching google
[18:26] <th0r> nsahoo: there are several, but I don't know where they get the info from...conky, gkrellm, and the gnome panel applet come to mind
[18:27] <martijn81> th0r: i use this: $ sudo fuseiso /path/to/img ~/iso
[18:27] <XLV> nsahoo, whats wrong with /proc/cpuinfo? ksensors got an applet for cpu speed, i bet gnome applets exist too for it
[18:27] <nsahoo> darthanubis: that one just reads prod/cpuinfo
[18:27] <mre_> hmm kfan run world of padman from terminal and grep to a fille eg   padman > some file.
[18:27] <ctmjr> kfan: it is probably overheating and shutting down to protect itself
[18:28] <darthanubis> nsahoo: of course, what do you mean "measure"?
[18:28] <th0r> martijn81: and you have a folder named iso in your home dir (and it should be owned by root:root)
[18:28] <XLV> nsahoo, but i bet all those read /proc/cpuinfo
[18:28] <nsahoo> darthanubis: run something and see how fast it runs
[18:28] <darthanubis> nsahoo: ok, that is called a benchmark
[18:28] <darthanubis> and again, search synaptic
[18:28] <kfan> will try... i would say it was over heating but i have a big house fan blowing on it and pc is cold lol
[18:28] <nsahoo> XLV: I think /proc/cpuinfo is wrong in the case of overclocked systems
[18:29] <martijn81> th0r: both is the case
[18:29] <th0r> martijn81: and you don't need sudo in the command...you should be able to mount it using your permissions. Using sudo forces it to try to mount to /root/iso
[18:29] <XLV> nsahoo, if it reads cpu id string, surely
[18:29] <nsahoo> darthanubis: ya .. sorry .. I am looking for a benchmark tool . I think at the boot time something benchmarks the cpu and outputs the speed , no?
[18:29] <XLV> nsahoo, try lshw
[18:29] <darthanubis> no
[18:29] <nsahoo> XLV: aha
[18:30] <nsahoo> darthanubis: no .. ? dmesg prints a Mhz speed
[18:30] <darthanubis> dmesg is not outputting any kind of BENCHMARK
[18:30] <th0r> martijn81: oh yeah...don't use ~...use /home/<user>
[18:31] <linduxed> need help with this http://tinyurl.com/luw5ve
[18:31] <nsahoo> darthanubis: prints [    0.000000] Fast TSC calibration using PIT
[18:31] <nsahoo> [    0.000000] Detected 2992.320 MHz processor.
[18:32] <unko> can someone help me? i can't enable compiz at all for some reason. the only reason i think it could have stopped working is, i made a guest account and removed the password something might have gone wrong. how do i re enable compiz & emerald
[18:32] <darthanubis> nsahoo: so what, that is NOT a benchmark
[18:33] <martijn81> th0r: this worked!! thanks a lot man
[18:33] <Edson`> What's better? A live CD or the Wubit installer?
[18:33] <nsahoo> darthanubis: so, is it reading off of something?
[18:33] <darthanubis> ugh
[18:33] <Edson`> Wubi*
[18:34] <leleobhz> how can i tell to apt do not attempt to upgrade a specific package
[18:34] <leleobhz> ?
[18:34] <Halitech> Edson`, depends, if you want to save settings, wubi is better, if you just want to try it out, the cd is faster to try, true install is the best imo
[18:35] <darthanubis> leleobhz: read how to use synaptic
[18:35] <Edson`> true install?
[18:35] <HentaiCr1zy> cd ./config
[18:35] <Halitech> Edson`, actually creating a partition and installing on native ext3
[18:35] <darthanubis> Edson`: install to hard drive=true install
[18:35] <Edson`> ah
[18:35] <Edson`> doesn't wubi do that?
[18:35] <fixje> leleobhz: aptitude hold <packagename>
[18:36] <Halitech> darthanubis, technically wubi would be a true install under that definition
[18:36] <darthanubis> if it did we would have not differentiated
[18:36] <leleobhz> fixje: oh, aptitude can manage this? dunno
[18:36] <leleobhz> very nice!
[18:36] <grkblood13> is therea  program thatll let you record your screen?
[18:36] <darthanubis> wubi is a joke of an install, an not considered a full install
[18:37] <darthanubis> installing linux INSIDE of windows is LAME
[18:37] <Halitech> Edson`, technically it does install but it runs on a loop mounted file
[18:37] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> lol
[18:37] <darthanubis> and hence your install would be LAME
[18:37] <fixje> leleobhz: yes, but you may never use apt after that, because it doesn't know that the package is blocked
[18:37] <darthanubis> but it is a nice option for the timid and lazy
[18:37] <leleobhz> fixje: ive the idea of use apt.conf
[18:37] <leleobhz> or apt pinning
[18:37] <Edson`> grkblood13: gtk-recordmydesktop
[18:37] <leleobhz> but i dont know how to do
[18:37] <Edson`> something along those lines
[18:37] <Halitech> darthanubis, and those who don't know the difference
[18:37] <th0r> fixje: will synaptic recognize the hold?
[18:38] <fixje> leleobhz: never tried that because i just use aptitude
[18:38] <unko> can someone please help me? i can't get compiz working anymore.
[18:38] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> is there any real benifit from using kbuntu or any of those other bunut OS over Ubuntu jaunty
[18:38] <fixje> th0r: if synaptic is just a graphical frontend for aptitude, yes.
[18:38] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> ?
[18:38] <darthanubis> leleobhz: if you'd followed my advise you'd be done by now
[18:38] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> re install it
[18:38] <fixje> but i don't know if it is
[18:38] <Edson`> But the wubi install is Ubuntu right? not some imitation or a 'demo?'
[18:38] <leleobhz> fixje: worked like a glove, but damn gnome update manager is borring me
[18:38] <XLV> darthanubis, excluding the fact it should be quite slower, it has full access to all hw.. its not THAT lame
[18:38] <darthanubis> HentaiCrazyAdmin: absolutely NOT
[18:38] <leleobhz> darthanubis: ?
[18:39] <Halitech> HentaiCrazyAdmin, the DE is just a frontend so its just a personal preference
[18:39] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> lame
[18:39] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> ohh
[18:39] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> thanks
[18:39] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> i'm very use to ubuntu now maybe I'll put it on my net book
[18:39] <Halitech> Edson`, yes, it is a full install, just doesn't have the full speed advantage of running on ext3
[18:40] <darthanubis> full install without the full speed, lol
[18:40] <darthanubis> yeah, that full
[18:40]  * darthanubis rolls eyes
[18:40] <leleobhz> o.0
[18:40]  * leleobhz see puritans here
[18:40] <darthanubis> full of crap
[18:40] <Edson`> Ah so it's just a bit slower
[18:41] <leleobhz> think: linux clains to be a versatile system
[18:41] <darthanubis> of course
[18:41] <leleobhz> so why cannot i use this?
[18:41] <darthanubis> it aint NATIVE install
[18:41] <Halitech> darthanubis, its not a demo or limited in anyway (so I've read anyway) so it technically would be a full install
[18:41] <darthanubis> ok "full install" but not native
[18:41] <darthanubis> hence a waste of time
[18:41] <darthanubis> speed
[18:41] <darthanubis> and space
[18:41] <th0r> not l33t
[18:41] <FloodBot1> darthanubis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <pacific-blue> from my user account "crontab -e" puts me into a new file with vi that I can not save. How do I get around this and who's the idiot who has not fixed this?
[18:42] <Halitech> darthanubis, I agree, native installs are better but if someone didn't think it was a good idea for newbies, they wouldn't have done it
[18:43] <darthanubis> Halitech: the idea was to get windows users
[18:43] <th0r> pacific-blue: I always  just create a txt file in ~ and then read it into cron with crontab
[18:43] <darthanubis> who could not follow directions enough to reboot and run the live cd. Or too lame to read the directions for a dualboot
[18:44] <Halitech> darthanubis, I know the idea behind it, just don't think its a good idea in my mind but with the messes I've seen it create lately, I think they should drop it
[18:44] <mds1> hi all.  How can I remove the password for my ssh-key from ubuntus/gnomes cache??
[18:44] <darthanubis> matter of fact, no directions are required these days for dual boot
[18:44] <darthanubis> rm ~/.ssh
[18:44] <epistax> Hey guys my wireless works fine but I was wondering if someone could recommend any apps to help diagnose issues when they occur, such as a weak signal. I can't find anything on synaptic.
[18:45] <Ravahan> I have been messing around on Ubuntu jaunty 64 bit trying to get getlibs to install Gens/GS (32 bit Sega emulator) without much success.  Any idea what I could've screwed up that would cause update manager to hang and/or report there's another instance of Synaptic running?
[18:45] <pacific-blue> th0r: ok, but this should really be fixed. It's never good when an application leads you down a broken path.
[18:45] <darthanubis> a quick google search would answer 99.9% of these questions
[18:45] <ctmjr> !google | darthanubis
[18:45] <Halitech> darthanubis, but someone decided it wouldn't be nice to tell new users to RTFM
[18:45] <JPSman> I uninstalled wubi in windows and the faux grub on system startup is still there
[18:45] <mds1> nope. I rm my id_dsa file but I can still connnect with ssh-server that requires the key!
[18:45] <JPSman> any help?
[18:46] <DreadPirateBob> I'm having issues running vmware server on my jaunty kubuntu system.  When the system boots, the services are started, but if I start or resume a VM, the bridged network adapter doesn't work.  If I restart the vmware service (maybe after I log in?), then the vms have networking.
[18:46] <EDinNY> how does Evolution know which apps to open when it gets an attachment?
[18:46] <DreadPirateBob> NetworkManager?
[18:46] <darthanubis> ctmjr: relax, If you've been paying attention I have not told anyone anything but the answers to their questions. I know our user base is lazy
[18:47] <Halitech> ctmjr, not to argue but being a new linux user has nothing to do with it, I learned to use google back in my windows days, people are just lazy and want someone to hold their hands
[18:47] <darthanubis> It is too bad ubuntu's policy is not rtfm. That is the best advise to give ANYONE in ANY field of endeavor
[18:48] <_marcel> hello
[18:48] <th0r> course it could be that for many here english is a second language and they can't make heads or tails out of google's answers
[18:48] <EDinNY> unfortunately much docs are written to be read by people who already know the answer
[18:48] <darthanubis> Because AFTER RTFM, and a google search we'd have a better pool of questions to field
[18:48] <darthanubis> anyway I digress
[18:48] <_marcel> 	
[18:48] <_marcel> hello, I wonder which is more secure the ubuntu or fedora.
[18:48] <darthanubis> EDinNY: wrong
[18:48] <_marcel> please
[18:49] <JPSman> How do I delete wubi's grub??
[18:49] <th0r> _marcel: not an answerable question
[18:49] <darthanubis> _marcel: which everone has the better sysadmin
[18:49] <darthanubis> ever one
[18:49] <Halitech> _marcel, depends on who and how they set things up, if they are stupid the system isn't going to matter
[18:49] <EDinNY> grub uninstall?
[18:49] <_marcel> oh
[18:50] <_marcel> installed ubuntu 9.04
[18:50] <kfan> it didnt save the log when i launched padman cuz it shutdown :(
[18:50] <_marcel> my desktop
[18:50] <_marcel> in my nootbook installed fedora 11
[18:50] <_marcel> ubuntu and fedora very good
[18:50] <JPSman> EDinNY - and what is that?  a windows application?
[18:50] <insta1> hey all ... i've got 9.04 installed on a laptop, and networkmanager says "wireless is disabled" ... but iwconfig and lspci both see and identify the card.  ideas?
[18:50] <Halitech> _marcel, if you go with the defaults and don't go enabling root and use a secure password, you should be fine with either
[18:50] <Ravahan> I have been messing around on Ubuntu jaunty 64 bit trying to get getlibs to install Gens/GS (32 bit Sega emulator) without much success.  Any idea what I could've screwed up that would cause update manager to hang and/or report there's another instance of Synaptic running?
[18:51] <JPSman> EDinNY - I uninstalled wubi from windows, but the grub on system start up is still there asking if I want ubuntu or windows
[18:51] <JPSman> how do I rembove this
[18:51] <_marcel> ok
[18:51] <kfan> can somone chat me if they can help  me with world of padman and my computer shutting down?
[18:51] <_marcel> 	
[18:51] <_marcel> i'ma fan of both
[18:52] <epistax> my cat's litter box keeps getting stuff in it. what can I do about it.
[18:52] <ethereality> How do I type "extra" characters like the accented 'i' in 'gracias', or the tilde-n as in "espanol"? And what is the correct name for such characters?
[18:52] <th0r> epistax: install redhat
[18:52] <Halitech> epistax, get rid of the cat
[18:52] <legend2440> epistax: sudo apt-get clean it
[18:52] <Ravahan> JPSman: Are you trying to just make it boot directly to windows?
[18:53] <epistax> people are apparently more experts on cats than wireless networks here :-P
[18:53] <Ravahan> JPSman: Sorry, I'm just catching the end there.
[18:53] <kfan> sudo rmdir litterbox
[18:53] <epistax> damn you wifi radar. you're two feed from the router.
[18:53] <JPSman> Ravahan, yes, without the faux grub that wubi installs.  Where does it do this BTW?
[18:53] <legend2440> sudo rm -rf cat
[18:53] <kfan> lol
[18:54] <JPSman> Ravahan, thank you for resonding
[18:54] <EDinNY> what sets file associations in Evo?  Using Evolution in Kubuntu and it does not know what to open.  Do I need to install ubunut-destop to get it?
[18:54] <Ravahan> JPSman: If you want it to automaticly boot into windows, its quite easy to overwrite Grub.  Do you have your windows disk?
[18:54] <Agat0n> I believe this time my ipod will work
[18:54] <Ravahan> JPSman: No problem.  I'm actually here looking for answers too.  #ubuntu has been great to me over this last week helping me get used to the OS.
[18:54] <dads> why do I have 5 boot entries for one install of ubuntu??  2.6.28-11- generic and same recovery and....  2.6.28-13- generic and recovery and...  memtest??  I only need one ubuntu and one xp on boot
[18:55] <JPSman> Ravahan somewhere around here.  But why would I need a windows disk?  shouldn't wubi be completly removed under the control panel?  where does this grub install to?
[18:55] <Ravahan> Grub takes the place of the Master Boot Record
[18:56] <th0r> dads: when the system upgrades the kernel it keeps the older versions available in case something goes wrong with the new version
[18:56] <Ravahan> sorry, that was directed at JPSman
[18:56] <JPSman> Ravahan, how can I edit this in windows?
[18:56] <dads> I have to leave.. can someone email me a way to remove the older kernels  hjcass@gmail.com  thanks
[18:56] <ethereality> How do I type "extra" characters like the accented 'i' in 'gracias', or the tilde-n as in "espanol"? And what is the correct name for such characters?
[18:56] <JPSman> Ravahan, safely
[18:56] <Ravahan> JPSman: Directly from Windows, I'm not sure, but simply running... I think its "fixmbr" from the recovery console will re-write the mbr
[18:57] <Ravahan> JPSman: Let me confirm that real quick, eh?
[18:57] <JPSman> Ravahan, please do and thank you :OD
[18:57] <Agat0n> brb lads
[18:57] <EDinNY> jpsman, what version of Win do you have?
[18:58] <ctmjr> dads: putting your e-maIl address in a room with 1400+ people is not a good idea
[18:58] <_marcel> exists channel Ubuntu from brazil?
[18:59] <JPSman> EDinNY: XP
[18:59] <ctmjr> !br | _marcel
[18:59] <th0r> ctmjr: I just figured he was lonely
[18:59] <EDinNY> boot your install disk to a dos prompt and type fixmbr
[18:59] <_marcel> ok thanks
[19:00] <ethereality> Is there an easier way to type characters like "í" than to hold down Ctrl+Shift and type "u00ed"?
[19:00] <ctmjr> th0r: not for long
[19:00] <candrodor> What does fixmbr do exactly?
[19:00] <legend2440> dads: leave your home address and someone will come over and do it while your away
[19:00] <th0r> candrodor: it fixes the mbr
[19:00] <candrodor> Put in a Windows Boot Loader?
[19:00] <JPSman> EDinNY, is that the only way to edit the MBR?
[19:00] <Halitech> candrodor, it repairs the windows boot loader
[19:00] <EDinNY> fixes Master Boot Record (MBR)
[19:00] <Ravahan> JPSman: fixmbr will do the trick.  You can specify additional information with it, but its not really necessary.  That command will overwrite the boot sector of the hard drive
[19:00] <candrodor> So if there isn't a windows boot loader in there in the first place, it won't work?
[19:01] <EDinNY> jpsman, you can dd an MBR to the beginning of your hard drive
[19:01] <izzy> Excuse me. How would one make a launcher on the desktop which would point to internal drives?
[19:01] <Ravahan> JPSman: Which is done to clear out boot sector viruses, and will also overwrite grub (which is the boot loader for ubuntu)
[19:01] <EDinNY> jpsman, when you installed grub it made a backup of your MBR.  If you still had Linux installed you could uninstall grub which would writ it back
[19:01] <th0r> izzy: open nautilus (the file manager) and drag the drive icons to the desktop?
[19:02] <datta> did anyone face problem with the fact that i have the gnome panels crashing a lot of times when i first boot up the desktop?
[19:02] <Ravahan> JPSman: The next time you boot your PC, it should go directly to your windows install.
[19:02] <Ravahan> EDinNY: That's really cool, I didn't know grub did that.
[19:02] <izzy> th0r: I tried that it tried to copy the whole drive.
[19:02] <JPSman> EDinNY, no I uninstalled wubi from windows add/remove.  Well, thing is i'd like to install kubuntu now and the old grub is still there
[19:02] <ohmygawd> is there a way of removing dead files in Banshee... as in songs that don't link to anywhere
[19:02] <datta> it didn't happen in any other types of versions but now in 9.04 i am facing this problem, i have the default clearlook theme
[19:03] <JPSman> so I supposed i'll have to fixmbr before I can write another grub?
[19:03] <om26er> plz help me there is no windows picker applet in the netbook remix
[19:03] <datta> and i use the dell 530N desktop which comes with preinstalled ubuntu 8.04 but i upgraded to 9.04
[19:03] <EDinNY> I told you 3 ways to fix it.  This is multiple choice.  choose
[19:03] <th0r> izzy: try right click on the folder you want and choose 'create shortcut'
[19:03] <th0r> izzy: I use xfce and am working from memory
[19:04] <th0r> izzy: VERY volatile memory
[19:04] <izzy> th0r: Not trying for a folder. Trying to put my internal drive and Cd on my desktop as icons.
[19:04] <om26er> i cannot see the panel in unr
[19:04] <legend2440> izzy:  in terminal type  gconf-editor   browse to   /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible   put check mark
[19:04] <izzy> th0r: I appreciate you trying to help. Thank you.
[19:05] <th0r> izzy: the hard drive is / and the cd should be /media/cdrom
[19:05] <th0r> izzy: sometimes the internal drive is identified as 'file system'
[19:05] <vaib> I have a desktop and a laptop, i don't want to update 2 times from mirrors. I tried to look at apt-cacher-ng and apt-proxy but they use separate cache than apt's cache. Can somebody help ?
[19:06] <vaib>  i meant I have this config currently, desktop_source:deb_mirror, desktop runs cacher, laptops_mirror:desktop_cacher  , but this config does download 2 times
[19:06] <th0r> izzy: (starting gnome in the vm...give me a sec)
[19:06] <izzy> Th0r: The only thing that confounds me about linux is this.
[19:06] <th0r> izzy: and the answer is...........
[19:06] <Ravahan> Alright, so my synaptic hangup just resolved, it looks like.  It threw a giant list of what looks like all my repositories at me and said it couldn't download the repository indexes.  Should I just reinstall Ubuntu again?  It didn't start hanging up until I tried to add a repository for Gens/GS, but that repository has been removed via Software Sources.  Does anyone have any ideas that may be helpful whatsoever?
[19:07] <izzy> Nope.
[19:07] <th0r> izzy: (slow vm)
[19:07] <izzy> Th0r: Not working.
[19:07] <Halitech> Ravahan, did you reload after making the change to the repo?
[19:07] <scream> How do I move the panel from my left monitor, to my right monitor?
[19:08] <Ravahan> Halitech, I tried, but it kept either hanging up or giving me an error about Synaptic already running.  I'm kind of nervous to open it again because it took like 20 mins to time out.
[19:08] <th0r> izzy: yeah...not working for me either. A project to fill the day <smile>
[19:08] <Ravahan> Halitech: Give it a whirl you think?
[19:08] <Halitech> Ravahan, ok, open a terminal and run sudo aptitude update
[19:08] <th0r> izzy: give me a minute...I'll get it <smile>
[19:08] <kfan> hey mre
[19:08] <izzy> th0r: Thank you.
[19:08] <Ravahan> Halitech: Alrighty, thanks so much for responding.
[19:09] <th0r> izzy: got it
[19:09] <th0r> izzy: right click on the desktop and choose Create Launcher
[19:10] <th0r> izzy: for Type choose location
[19:10] <Ravahan> Halitech: Okay, it returned a bunch of error "404 Not Found"s
[19:10] <kebomix> i made swap partition and i want it to swap on automatically , how !
[19:10] <Halitech> Ravahan, ok, use pastebin and give us the results of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:10] <th0r> izzy: for name put Hard Drive, and for location put /
[19:10] <th0r> izzy: click on the icon and find one you like
[19:10] <th0r> izzy: and click ok.
[19:11] <kfan> hey mre u there
[19:11] <th0r> izzy: the cd location should be /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom0
[19:11] <aboleth> wow
[19:11] <brewmaster> hey all, i just upgraded from intrepid to jaunty. i have both gnome and kde installed, and now, in kde, i can't get any sound for any multimedia (mythtv, avis, mp3s, etc).
[19:11] <izzy> Th0r: Perfect. thank you so much.
[19:12] <brewmaster> sound works fine in gnome
[19:12] <brewmaster> any ideas?
[19:12] <th0r> izzy: and thanks to Sun for Virtual Box <smile>
[19:12] <aboleth> sound doesn't work in programs using sdl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221475
[19:12] <Ravahan> Halitech: This is pretty long.  http://pastebin.com/d67ae459d
[19:12] <Halitech> kfan, no mre is not here
[19:12] <aboleth> i still haven't gotten help yet
[19:12] <Halitech> Ravahan, give me a sec
[19:12] <aboleth> i've had this problem for months
[19:12] <kebomix>  i made swap partition and i want it to swap on automatically , how !
[19:12] <Ravahan> Halitech, No problem mate, take your time.
[19:13] <th0r> aboleth: you are going to find it hard to locate someone with experience with sdl
[19:13] <izzy> Th0r: VB is cool. :)
[19:13] <kfan> mre u thgere?
[19:13] <aboleth> th0r: someone who knows about pulseaudio or other sound systems could be helpful too
[19:13] <kfan> there
[19:13] <aboleth> th0r: should i go on #sdl?
[19:14] <th0r> aboleth: have no idea...I am someone with no experience in sdl
[19:14] <plastic> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[19:14] <dfkmas> I have problems with wow, someoby got someexperience? it laggs like shit, worse than windows..
[19:14] <Cydell> the .img file for ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix gives a kernel panic error when I try to boot live from a usb.
[19:14] <Cydell> anyone else seen this?
[19:15] <Halitech> Ravahan, I'm not sure (hopefully someone else will jump in here) but I don't think it should have -i386 in the deb source lists
[19:15] <Ravahan> Halitech, I was messing around with getlibs earlier trying to get a stupid emulator to run
[19:15] <acdspit00> anyone know whats safe to remove from startup
[19:15] <Ravahan> Halitech, I've not had a lot of luck getting anything 32 bit to run here.  Its a bit frustrating
[19:16] <acdspit00> as well as what service are safe to stop?
[19:16] <Halitech> Ravahan, are you running 64bit?
[19:16] <Ravahan> Halitech, Yessir
[19:16] <Cydell> has anyone installed ubuntu netbook on a mini 9 that can help me?
[19:16] <Halitech> Ravahan, then definately shouldn't have anything -i386 in there
[19:16] <Ravahan> Halitech, I have no idea how it got there lol
[19:17] <Ravahan> Halitech, Maybe a result of getlibs installation?
[19:17] <Halitech> Ravahan, the repos work if you look http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/
[19:17] <Halitech> Ravahan, could be
[19:18] <gangil> how can I stop the update notifier to stop from launching at start up?
[19:18] <Ravahan> Halitech, Yeah, that link opened up
[19:18] <Halitech> Ravahan, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all the -i386 and then save the file and then run sudo apt-get update again
[19:18] <sobersabre> can somebody post their apt's sources.list ?
[19:18] <Ravahan> Halitech: Sounds like a plan.  Give me a min to run that
[19:18] <Ravahan> Halitech: What's gksudo do, btw?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: http://pastebin.com/f157449f8
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: for jaunty
[19:19] <Halitech> sobersabre, I would but I don't think the debian list would do much good :)
[19:19] <th0r> gangil: uninstall update-notifier
[19:19] <Halitech> Ravahan, gksudo is the proper way to run sudo for a graphical app
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: its for running gui apps with elevated priveledges, sudo for gui apps is incorect and can break ownerships
[19:20] <kfan> hey who was helping me with padman ??/
[19:20] <Ravahan> Aaah, ok
[19:20] <Halitech> !gksudo | Ravahan
[19:21] <hellogen> hi all
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: so when you see sudo gedit, it is wrong, use gksudo gedit. kde has kdesudo
[19:21] <gangil> thanks th0r
[19:23] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Good to know.  See, this is why #ubuntu is great for this kind of thing.  I actually ran sudo gedit yesterday trying to fix something
[19:23] <datta> please can anyone tell me if they faced the problem with the crashing of the gnome panels?
[19:23] <kfan> who was helping me with padman?>
[19:23] <Ravahan> Halitech: Its still running
[19:23] <gangil> th0r my computer is showing high temp. in gkrellm  ,I dont know why normally it shows ~10 C less
[19:23] <datta> or does everyone just use kde and forget about gnome?
[19:23] <th0r> gangil: move it out of the sun?
[19:23] <Halitech> Ravahan, the edit or the update?
[19:23] <coz_> datta,  I did a few weeks ago :)
[19:24] <gangil> It's night here :D
[19:24] <Ravahan> Halitech: The update.  I'm seeing a lot of converting going on here.
[19:24] <linduxed> ive got a main partition where most space is located mounted on /home. on that partition i have to fit home directories and samba-shares. is it "pretty" to categorized it by doing /home/users/ and /home/samba/ ?
[19:24] <Halitech> Ravahan, ok, pastebin the output
[19:24] <datta> please help with the fact that in 9.04 my alsa mixer, the volume comtroler and other elements from the panel crashes
[19:24] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:24] <Ravahan> Halitech: and so far three errors "Binary / Source version mismatch, skipping" on  all of them
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: if you use it extensively, yuo will get a situation like this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+question/72151
[19:25] <datta> how can i fix that? i have to manually put those back in everytime it crashes
[19:25] <ufd> hi all. i got a prob with movie player, it cant play dvd ?
[19:25] <Ravahan> Halitech: Will do
[19:25] <Halitech> ufd, go for vlc
[19:25] <coz_> datta,   ooo that';s not good   is everything  panel associated crashing?
[19:25] <sebsebseb> !dvd |  ufd
[19:25] <ufd> halitech, hi, i looked at the vls site but the download scare the **** of me
[19:25] <datta> coz_: i didn't understand what you are asking about
[19:25] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu
[19:26] <sebsebseb> ufd: your trying to play commercial DVD's?
[19:26] <coz_> datta,   ok alsamixer crashes the panel?
[19:26] <Halitech> ufd, just install using synaptic or sudo apt-get install vlc in the terminal
[19:26] <ufd> sebsebseb, yeah
[19:26] <datta> coz_ yes also the time and the system monitor that i put up crashes
[19:26] <linduxed> bump
[19:26] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: Well that looks like a giant pain in the butt.
[19:27] <coz_> datta,  mm  hold on
[19:27] <datta> all right coz_
[19:27] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I gave up on running Azureus myself.  I learn something valuable every time I come into #ubuntu, even if I don't say a word.
[19:27] <viki27> Hello , i installed ubuntu 9.04 on my computer and i have some problem with the sound , when i try to play some music files (mp3 etc..) or watch movie , or surf youtube i cant hear anyting beside wired noise like electricity , before the installation i try the ubuntu using the live-cd and its work fine including the sound) maybe something went wrong with the updates after the installation ?)
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: lots, learning is good :D
[19:28] <sebsebseb> ufd: for legal reasons they can't provide  commercial  DVD support by default, and other  format support such as MP3 and AVI,  there's a program called libdvdcss2  that you can get from the medibuntu repo,  but it may not be fully legal in USA or whatever
[19:28] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu |  ufd
[19:28] <ufd> halitechm i havent downloaded it yet cos i though there might be a working player in the system, i will try to download the app
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> viki27: try:    amixer -q set PCM 100% unmute
[19:28] <linduxed> viki27: could this be it? http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2009/04/ubuntu-audio-does-not-work-static-sound.html
[19:28] <coz_> datta,  ok  you might want to try to reset gnome to defaults
[19:29] <coz_> datta,  do you know how to do that?
[19:29] <Halitech> ufd, vlc is the only one I find that works, just install it the way I said earlier
[19:29] <kfan> msg mre_ u there buddy sorry about that
[19:29] <Halitech> kfan, mre is not online
[19:29] <kfan> :(
[19:29] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I was so tickled to find this resource referenced when I was googling something.  I only know one person who runs Linux and they use Fedora, so I was getting very frustrated trying to figure this stuff out.  #ubuntu really is an awesome resource for new users.
[19:29] <ufd> halitech, the command line is ok, but the download page is a bit daunting
[19:29] <coz_> datta,   in terminal     rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity    then log off and back on or restart X  proplerly  with    ctrl+alt+F1   log in   then   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  restart
[19:30] <datta> coz_: how do i do that
[19:30] <Halitech> ufd, you don't need to download anything from the website
[19:30] <Ravahan> Halitech: Update; Its still doing its thing.  Just keeping you posted.
[19:30] <sebsebseb> ufd: I thought you wanted to play commercial DVD's,  but  it seems your talking about something else,   well  I just joined here
[19:30] <ufd> halitech, it said it couldnt find package
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: i find it equal to the other linuxes. Just seems that more folks are jumping on it. It does have shortcomings as well as strengths just like all linuxes
[19:30] <viki27> ActionParsnip: working like magic :) thanks
[19:30] <coz_> datta,  in terminal     rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity    then log off and back on or restart X  proplerly  with    ctrl+alt+F1   log in   then   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  restart
[19:30] <Halitech> Ravahan, dang, thats strange
[19:30] <Xacarith> I'm running 9.04 with an nvidia 8500 video card, driver 80.44 two monitors at two different resolutions using seperate x screens.  Part of my one screen is black and unsaleable with only the mouse able to pass through it.  The end result looks something like this http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/KessieRingtail/xscreen10.png
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> viki27: ;) i habve the same
[19:30] <datta> coz_ alright i am doing for it then hope it goes all okay
[19:30] <Halitech> ufd, do you have all the repos enabled?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> viki27: it will go back after you reboot
[19:31] <uman> wtf, there is an "ubuntu restaurant"
[19:31] <sebsebseb> !language | uman
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> viki27: i have the command in a script that runs at startup
[19:31] <Ravahan> Halitech: Hmmm not sure I like strange :( lol
[19:31] <datta> coz_: is it supposed to say something in the terminal
[19:31] <uman> lol, that's considered bad language
[19:31] <uman> sorry, then
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> uman: theres a cola too. Its an african word meaning "together"
[19:31] <ufd> halitech, i dont know, but the the line says E: Couldn't find package in
[19:31] <datta> because mine is totally blank
[19:31] <viki27> ActionParsnip: can you guide me how to create this kind of script ?
[19:31] <Halitech> Ravahan, normally it should only take maybe 2 minutes on a slow connection
[19:31] <coz_> datta,  no  not really  use sudo  before the rm -rf
[19:31] <Ravahan> ActionParsnip: I'm having a good time with it.  My first Linux OS.
[19:31] <sebsebseb> uman: the three letter thing is,   also kind of interesting what you put, but off topic
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> viki27: create a text file, paste that line in it
[19:32] <datta> ohh
[19:32] <ufd> halitech, how do u repos enabled ?
[19:32] <Halitech> ufd, okay, use pastebin and give us the results of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> viki27: and have the top line as:   #!/bin/sh
[19:32] <Ravahan> Halitech: Well, each line is either a convert or a error.  I gather its supposed to be downloading stuff rather than changing stuff?
[19:32] <coz_> datta,   sorry about that the command is     sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Ravahan: i find it a bit bloated trying to accommodate all users. I have a script to pretty much gut it so that I find it usable
[19:33] <Halitech> ufd, Ravahan yeah, should be just checking the file lists to see if there is any newer versions of the propgrams you have installed
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> viki27: save the text file to ~
[19:33] <datta> coz_: well nothing seemed to have happned in the terminal it stays the same
[19:33] <datta> hope that is the way it is supposed to go
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> viki27: you will need to chmod +x the file o make it executable
[19:33] <ufd> halitech, #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090420.1)]/ jaunty main restricted
[19:33] <coz_> datta,  mm ok  restart x  or log off and back on to test it
[19:33] <Ravahan> Halitech: here's a short example "Convert: libfreebob 1.0.11-1"
[19:34] <datta> alrite i am going to log off and log back in so gonna be offline
[19:34] <kfan> hali if i give u the pastebin of what mre wanted me to send him could u look at it for me? he was trying to find out why my computer shuts down when playing world of pad man
[19:34] <Xacarith> *sigh* guess I'll try another time  Wish luck to every one else.
[19:34] <Halitech> Ravahan, I wonder if you somehow had some of your files converted to 32bit
[19:34] <Ravahan> Halitech: I'm not sure what exactly is being converted into what.  If it goes way sour, I got this on a seperate partition from my /home so I won't be totally devistated
[19:34] <vassler> Is there any way to disable all tooltips????
[19:34] <giacomo> hi, I have a 24" DELL monitor and ubuntu does not recognize its correct resolution
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> viki27: if you remove the file extension, you can copy it to /usr/bin and it will be universally available
[19:34] <Ravahan> Halitech: You know, you might be onto something there...
[19:34] <Halitech> ufd, thats it? 1 line?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> giacomo: you need video drivers. lspci | grep -i vga
[19:34] <ufd> giacomo, get an NEC
[19:34] <vassler> Is there any way to disable all tooltips in ubuntu????
[19:35] <Ravahan> Halitech: As I said, I have my /home on a different partition....
[19:35] <ufd> well there's quite a few shall i put them up ?
[19:35] <Halitech> Ravahan, much as I hate to suggest it, might be time to think of nuke and pave
[19:35] <Halitech> ufd, yes, use pastebin though
[19:35] <giacomo> thanks, this is the output giacomo@giacomo-laptop:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
[19:35] <giacomo> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:35] <ufd> halitech, whats pastebin, sorry i'm new to this
[19:36] <Ravahan> Halitech: And I originally installed 32 bit Ubuntu by mistake (followed a link to 64 bit from an outside site and it had 32 bit checked at the bottom of the download page) and just recently swapped over.
[19:36] <legend2440> Xacarith: try channel  #nvidia
[19:36] <Halitech> !pastebin | ufd
[19:36] <Ravahan> Halitech: Could that explain why I couldn't get anything 32 bit to frigging load?
[19:36] <Halitech> Ravahan, 32bit will run on a 64 bit machine
[19:36] <Xacarith> k
[19:36] <Ravahan> Halitech: That was my impression =\
[19:36] <Ravahan> Halitech: lol
[19:37] <giacomo> the strange thing is that the live image DID set the right resolution
[19:37] <datta> all right, back to the default and back
[19:37] <Ravahan> Halitech: Well, maybe all this converting business will fix something eh?  Here's hoping.
[19:37] <Halitech> Ravahan, if you have 64bit and want to run 32bit apps then you need the 32bit libs to get it to work
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> giacomo: please tab complete my name at the start of each line if you are addressing me
[19:37] <datta> hope now it fixes everything, btw does anyone know how to stop the beeping?
[19:37] <vassler> Is there any way to disable all tooltips in ubuntu????
[19:37] <datta> i hate that beep that's why
[19:37] <Halitech> Ravahan, can hope, if not, might be time to reinstall
[19:37] <coz_> datta,  did that work?
[19:37] <ufd> halitech, did u get it ?
[19:38] <Halitech> ufd, get what?
[19:38] <datta> coz_: well have to see because the crash happens time to time but think it will not happen now again but if it does u all are here :)
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> giacomo: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[19:38] <coz_> datta,  ok :)
[19:38] <giacomo> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll have a look
[19:38] <ufd> pastebin
[19:38] <datta> so does anyone know how to stop the beep (system beep)?
[19:38] <ufd> halitech, pastebin
[19:39] <Halitech> ufd, you need to copy and paste the link it gave you into here
[19:39] <candrodor> ok, so NOW, after a reboot, completely randomly it seems, I have a CDRW drive and Floppy drive showing under Computer.
[19:39] <coz_> datta,  is this beep happening when you type?
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> datta: blacklist the pcspkr module
[19:39] <datta> not when someone sends me a messagage and i have the messanger minimized
[19:40] <piroko> Any idea why firefox shows the java plugin in about:plugins, but java applets don't work?
[19:40] <coz_> datta,  which  for pidgin  xchat or waht?
[19:40] <Ravahan> Halitech: Yeah, this whole adventure started trying to get a couple of 32 bit emulators to run on jaunty 64 bit.  I discovered Getlibs from google and a few ubuntu forum posts and had been messing with that... but it could never find the libs it needed for some reason.  So then, I thought I must not have some repos right or something.  I checked, and all of them were marked except sourcecode, so then I thought maybe I need to add one an
[19:40] <ufd> halitech, http://paste.ubuntu.com/233362/
[19:40] <datta> it's for chatzilla plugin in firefox
[19:40] <coz_> datta,  did you check the settings for that in firefox  chatzilla?
[19:40] <kitche> piroko: do you have sun java installed or gcj?
[19:40] <kitche> piroko: or openjdk
[19:41] <legend2440> vassler: http://geekybits.blogspot.com/2007/07/ubuntu-tip-turning-off-tooltips.html
[19:41] <datta> coz_: not the last time i did it it was in the sound options, have changed it again but can't test it, could u send me another mesage with the name
[19:41] <coz_> datta,
[19:41] <coz_> datta,
[19:42] <datta> alright, now it's fixed thank you all
[19:42] <coz_> cool
[19:42] <JPSman> EDinNY: So I ran the XP recovery CD and did the FIXMBR, and the Grub4Dos is STILL there
[19:42] <datta> thanks coz_ for helping me out
[19:42] <coz_> datta,   no problem :)
[19:42] <JPSman> How does one remove grub4dos?
[19:42] <ufd> halitech, do u see it ?
[19:42] <Halitech> Ravahan, yeah, crossing the border between the 2 is a real pain, thats why I don't do it
[19:42] <gangil> hi , my laptop is showing THM=43 C and GPU=60 C , ubuntu interprid , is that normal??? :(
[19:42] <Halitech> ufd, yeah, got it and looking now
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> gangil: sounds ok to me
[19:43] <piroko> kitche: sun-java6-plugin/bin
[19:43] <unixbocx> wow, what a nightmare finally got the my linksys router back up, thought i burned it out..now i'm back with >cablebox > router >dhcp'd out to all the pc's plus my ubuntu server.. on it's internal ip 192.168.1.103 now all i have to do is figure out how to get a domain name from godaddy to point to my server with apache ruuning
[19:44] <gangil> When should I start worrying above*? C* I have Dell inspiron 1420
[19:44] <Ravahan> unixbocx: So DMZ is working out then?
[19:45] <unixbocx> i couldn't say working.. the router lets me set it up but ????
[19:45] <unixbocx> now what
[19:45] <unixbocx> lol
[19:45] <Ravahan> lol I know what you mean
[19:45] <Hilikus> can someone tell me what they get from "which firefox"
[19:45] <Halitech> ufd, try the instructions here for getting the newest version of vlc ...   http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/195/install-all-new-vlc-1-0-in-ubuntu-jaunty-intrepid-hardy
[19:46] <gangil> Halitech: /usr/bin/firefox
[19:46] <Ravahan> unixbocx: I'm not really familiar with using godaddy, but let me consult the Allmighty Google on your behalf while I wait on this stupid thingie I'm running here
[19:46] <piroko> kitche: Hmm... Apparently sun-java5-plugin works fine.
[19:46] <Hilikus> gangil: could you check if that is just a symlink please
[19:47] <gangil> Hilikus: I dont know that much :D
[19:47] <ufd> halitech, it eventually takes you here ? https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[19:47] <Halitech> unixbocx, you are going to need to point it to your external IP and then have the router forward it to the internal IP of the machine running apache
[19:47] <Hilikus> gangil: do ls -l /usr/bin/firefox and tell me what you get
[19:47] <prince_jammys> Hilikus: /usr/bin/firefox: symbolic link to `firefox-3.0'
[19:47] <unixbocx> lol ok ...i've tryed using a cname record that would point to my dyndns name server which on my ubuntu server has ddclient running to update dyndns
[19:47] <Hilikus> thanks guys
[19:47] <Halitech> ufd, yes
[19:47] <Hilikus> i lost my symlink for some reason
[19:48] <Hilikus> but i wanted to make sure that it is a symlink
[19:48] <prince_jammys> Hilikus: /usr/bin/firefox-3.0: symbolic link to `../lib/firefox-3.0.11/firefox.sh'
[19:48] <gangil> what's that?*symlink?
[19:48] <unixbocx> ok, that sound like something
[19:48] <Hilikus> gangil: a symbolic link
[19:48] <Hilikus> !symlink
[19:48] <ufd> halitech, there seems to be 10 downloads (looks like portions on ftp site) ????
[19:49] <Halitech> ufd, don't go to the site to download anything, edit your sources.list file to add the correct repo then run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:49] <prince_jammys> Hilikus: i have hardy, if that makes any difference.
[19:49] <Hilikus> prince_jammys: it should be the same i think
[19:49] <unixbocx> i have a linksys WRT54GX with SRX, looking throught it i'm finding it hard to find something about forwarding
[19:49] <unixbocx> my server is in the DMZ though
[19:50] <Halitech> unixbocx, not the ideal way but you could use the dmz setting, just leaves you open to possible attacks
[19:50] <gangil> Hilikus: Is symlink , the link to the file which that particulaar command points to in the terminal?
[19:51] <Hilikus> gangil: no, symlinks are special files that point to other files or directories
[19:51] <danlii> The scroll wheel on my mouse (Trust MI-6950R) sends events to the gnome volume control instead of scrolling as it should, how could this be solved?
[19:51] <Hilikus> not just commands
[19:51] <ufd> halitech,can i use text edit or vi ? and what shall i put in exactly ?
[19:51] <Hilikus> but any file
[19:51] <unixbocx> ok, i can take it out.. yesterday my logs showed some bots coming out of china and russia looking for ways in my server,
[19:51] <Keiffer> Do you know Azeotrope?
[19:51] <rapha> is there ANY raw converter at all that works with the Canon EOS 50D?
[19:52] <legend2440> Hilikus: yes thats a symlink it resolves at   /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.12/firefox
[19:52] <gangil> Hilikus: thanks :)
[19:52] <nick635mirc1> hello, my ubuntu says "Wired Network not managed"
[19:52] <Halitech> ufd, are you running 8.10 or 9.04?
[19:52] <ufd> halitech 9.04
[19:52] <danlii> nick635mirc1: remove or comment out the line "iface eth0 inet ..." in /etc/network/interfaces and reboot.
[19:52] <unixbocx> i wounder if the  Advanced Routing would be anything i'd need
[19:53] <Halitech> ufd, ok, give me a second
[19:53] <Andycas> isnt there a way to let the package manager automatically install all the dependencies?
[19:53] <ufd> halitech, sure, thnx
[19:53] <overmetal61> Question:  What file does System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers write to when you activate and deactivate drivers?   I am just curious, because I was looking on /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*   and /etc/modules and I don't see any of the drivers I have activated
[19:53] <unixbocx> aptitude will take care of that
[19:53] <nick635mirc1> I mean, if I click on the icon, it says "Wired Network - device not managed"
[19:54] <UBUNTUVISTA> hi
[19:54] <nick635mirc1> so I can't connect with a simple ethernet cable
[19:54] <ufd> ubuntuvista, hi
[19:54] <Halitech> ufd, step by step on what to do .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/233373/
[19:54] <UBUNTUVISTA> anyone here know any cool desktop widgets or cool themes for ubuntu 9.04  some cool things
[19:54] <unixbocx> xxx
[19:54] <pcbuilder97> i get most of my stuff from gnome-look.org
[19:54] <unixbocx> look everyone i'm blue now..lol
[19:55] <gangil> UBUNTUVISTA: hv to tried these themes http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nice-ubuntu-themes-for-jaunty-and-intrepid-users.html
[19:55] <gangil> s/to/you/
[19:56] <Halitech> nick635mirc1, did you hardcode a static IP?
[19:56] <iceroot> UBUNTUVISTA: avn http://blog.slyon.de/wp-content/screenshot.png  its like mac osx
[19:56] <piroko> Anyone running 9.10?
[19:56] <iceroot> piroko: #ubuntu+1
[19:56] <UBUNTUVISTA> ill try
[19:56] <UBUNTUVISTA> whats ubuntu 9.10
[19:56] <UBUNTUVISTA> im on 9.04?
[19:56] <ufd> halitech, the cursor box is flashing, is that ok ?
[19:56] <Halitech> ufd yes
[19:56] <UBUNTUVISTA> does 9.10 work well on asus eee pc 1000h
[19:57] <iceroot> UBUNTUVISTA: next release in xx.10.2009
[19:57] <ufd> halitech, shall i type anything ?
[19:57] <iceroot> UBUNTUVISTA: 9.04 works fine there, 9.10 is alpha
[19:57] <gangil> iceroot: where can I get that theme?
[19:57] <Halitech> ufd, did you run the first command?
[19:57] <pcbuilder97> i had some issues with 9.10 alpha2  my floppy drive ran nonstop
[19:57] <iceroot> gangil: look for avn with apt-get or google, dont know where to find it
[19:57] <overmetal61> Question:  What file does System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers write to when you activate and deactivate drivers?   I am just curious, because I was looking on /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*   and /etc/modules and I don't see any of the drivers I have activated
[19:57] <iceroot> pcbuilder97: #ubuntu+1
[19:58] <ufd> halitech, i did everything you typed on pastebin
[19:58] <Ravahan> unixbocx: Sorry I was gone a while there, still messing with it?
[19:58] <gangil> iceroot: do you mean avant window manager?
[19:58] <UBUNTUVISTA> i tried those themes...
[19:58] <danlii> I am running Jeunty, and the scroll wheel on my mouse (Trust MI-6950R) sends events to the gnome volume control instead of scrolling as it should, how could this be solved?
[19:58] <iceroot> gangil: yes
[19:58] <UBUNTUVISTA> How do i get a 3d desktop and widgets?
[19:58] <UBUNTUVISTA> please
[19:58] <Halitech> ufd, so it installed vlc?
[19:58] <Halitech> !compiz| UBUNTUVISTA
[19:58] <iceroot> !compiz | UBUNTUVISTA
[19:58] <gangil> UBUNTUVISTA: compiz-fusion
[19:58] <ufd> halitech, its running in xterm
[19:59] <UBUNTUVISTA> ty
[19:59] <gangil> iceroot : I hv avant installed but it doesnt start?:(
[19:59] <Halitech> ufd, whats running?
[19:59] <Ravahan> Halitech: Okay, it just did a bunch of get: commands, and now its converting stuff again.  Started back at A and moving forward.  I expect this'll take a while lol
[19:59] <Halitech> Ravahan, sounds like it
[19:59] <ufd> halitech, sudo apt-get install vlc-nox
[19:59] <iceroot> gangil: type in the shell avant tab and start it
[19:59] <iceroot> !tab | gangil
[19:59] <pcbuilder97> are thare any bugs in the mac4lin theme??
[20:00] <Halitech> ufd, ok, let it finish and when you get back to the cursor you should find vlc under the multimedia menu
[20:00] <iceroot> pcbuilder97: every software has bugs
[20:00] <gangil> iceroot: it gives me this Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[20:00] <pcbuilder97> im sure but i know some themes are absolutley junk some are fairly good as far as not acting buggy
[20:01] <mankeletor> hello there, anybody knows how to change the init mode of ubuntu? i need to change to 'init 3'
[20:01] <ufd> halitech, nope ?!?
[20:01] <ufd> halitech :(
[20:01] <Halitech> ufd, has it finished installing yet?
[20:01] <coz_> mankeletor,   sudo init 3   ?
[20:01] <iceroot> mankeletor: if i am correct ubuntu isnt using init-modes like suse does
[20:01] <ufd> halitech, yes
[20:01] <iceroot> mankeletor: type "init 3"
[20:02] <durt> mankeletor, there are only two 'init' modes in ubuntu single and multi user
[20:02] <Halitech> ufd, did it give any errors?
[20:02] <kc8pxy> what could cause my apache server, managed by webmin, and virtualmin, to quit being accessible from the same switch, with onyl the addition of shorewall between the internet and the webserver?  accesing the webserver from the interwebs is fine,  it's just from the lan that's not working anymore.
[20:02] <durt> mankeletor, if you need cli multiuser, kill xorg.
[20:02] <kc8pxy> this is an ubuntu 8.04 32-bit server.
[20:02] <ufd> halitech, i closed that text file which you asked me to add 2 lines to and now xterm is inflating something ??
[20:02] <kc8pxy> ??
[20:02] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am trying to add a repo https://launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu/+archive/mscore-stable but I think this line is incomplete. What do I need to add to it?
[20:03] <Halitech> ufd, inflating what?
[20:03] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: https://launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu/+archive/mscore-stable  klick on it
[20:04] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: you will see the correct line there and how to install
[20:04] <ufd> halitech, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[20:04] <mankeletor> init 3 done under root console login =
[20:04] <Halitech> ufd, ok, so its still running?
[20:04] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: Doh! Thanks
[20:04] <ufd> halitech, i dont know why though
[20:04] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mscore-ubuntu/mscore-stable/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[20:04] <ufd> halitech, seems so
[20:04] <aptx_> help
[20:04] <iceroot> aptx_: with?
[20:05] <Halitech> aptx_, call 911?
[20:05] <aptx_> nothing
[20:05] <iceroot> Halitech: 110 :)
[20:05] <ufd> halitech, ok, this is what is says at the bottom !Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[20:05] <ufd> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[20:05] <ufd> Processing triggers for menu ...
[20:05] <ufd> "
[20:05] <Halitech> ufd, ok, let it finish
[20:05] <FloodBot1> ufd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:05] <JonathanEllis> iceroot: Doh! I feel so stupid. I was just copying and pasting that line.
[20:05] <mankeletor> init 3 line in /etc/rc.local should work?
[20:05] <iceroot> JonathanEllis: :)
[20:05] <Halitech> iceroot, forgot not everyone is in North America
[20:05] <m0r0n> Hey, I'm getting an error that I cannot un-mount my diskdrive
[20:06] <iceroot> Halitech: yes :)
[20:06] <m0r0n> hard *drive
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> m0r0n: if you know the mount point, try:   lsof | grep /mount/point
[20:06] <iceroot> mankeletor: post there error + your command at pastebin
[20:06] <ufd> halitech, ........Y E S ....  T H A N K     Y O U
[20:06] <linduxed> if ive got my home directory located in /home/, how do i move it to /home/users/ ?
[20:06] <Halitech> ufd, vlc is now installed?
[20:06] <elbuo> what happens if after 24 hours of gparted running and then computer is turned off? does the HDD die?
[20:07] <ufd> halitech, thanks to you , yes, your a UNIX Guru
[20:07] <prince_jammys> :)
[20:07] <Halitech> ufd, glad its installed and I'm far from a guru :)
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: is it a seperate partition mounted by fstab?
[20:07] <ufd> halitech.....
[20:07] <m0r0n> ActionParsnip: Let me try it as root.. It's saying root can only unmount it and also I installed something to auto mount it which made it read-only, I forgot what it is though
[20:07] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: yepp
[20:08] <prince_jammys> m0r0n: sudo fuser -v /mountpoint
[20:08] <ufd> Halitech, its there but doesnt fire up, I mean it starts but closes after 1 second ??
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: then unmount the partition, create the subfolder in /home then edit fstab to reflect the change
[20:08] <prince_jammys> or -vki to interactively kill the apps
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> m0r0n: well yeah, you use sudo
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> m0r0n: you don't need root EVER
[20:08] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: i dont think you understood my question
[20:09] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: i dont want to move the partition in itself
[20:09] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: there is on action you need a real root (with eraly ubuntu-version)
[20:09] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: i just want all the userdirs to be located under /home/users instead of /home
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: can you please clarify, sounds like you want to move where you are mounting a partition from /home ro /home/user
[20:09] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: the partition stays
[20:09] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: if you boot and fsck will repair the drive, it ask for the root-password
[20:09] <m0r0n> ActionParsnip: Well I unmounted it now I want to mount it back in hope to make it read and write, how would I do that
[20:09] <Halitech> ufd, ok, try running it from the terminal and see if its giving an error or some sort
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> m0r0n: sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /mount/point -o uid=1000
[20:10] <ufd> halitech, http://paste.ubuntu.com/233384/
[20:11] <Halitech> ufd, got to love an error message that just says seg fault
[20:11] <prince_jammys> linduxed: that'll either require changing the entries at /etc/passwd, or maybe the usermod command for existing users, and /etc/adduser.conf for future users
[20:11] <linduxed> prince_jammys: adduser.conf already fixed
[20:11] <m0r0n> ActionParsnip: How do I find the mount point?
[20:11] <prince_jammys> linduxed: (and maybe something else i'm not thinking of, for your new /home to work)
[20:11] <ufd> halitech, aha
[20:11] <linduxed> prince_jammys: will check /etc/passwd
[20:12] <Halitech> ufd, we can try to remove it, reboot and then reinstall and see if that makes a difference
[20:12] <prince_jammys> linduxed: use vipw if you edit that file directly
[20:12] <saji> hi..
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> m0r0n: munt   will tell you
[20:13] <ufd> halitech, remove the vlc app
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: the bootup process is all as root so shuld not ask for a passowrd
[20:13] <Halitech> ufd, yeah, sudo apt-get remove --purge vlc
[20:13] <ufd> halitech, shall i just reboot as u do in micro$oft
[20:14] <saji> My vi editor is working awkwardly.
[20:14] <Halitech> ufd, if you want to try that first
[20:14] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: an early ubuntu-version was asking this, dont know  the version anymore
[20:14] <ufd> halitech, ok try that first, thnx for ur help mate
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: lsb_release -c will tell you
[20:15] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: no, i mean that years ago i was using a version which was asking for the root-password .)
[20:15] <saji> help me someone....
[20:15] <saji> pls..
[20:16] <saji> Vi working awkwardly.
[20:16] <solexious> How can I make a iso of a dvd on the commandline?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: weird
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> solexious: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/file.iso
[20:17] <JDLSpeedy> or cat /dev/sr0 > file.iso
[20:17] <solexious> ActionParsnip, I've tried that but it only copys 160 ish mb then stops
[20:19] <solexious> ActionParsnip, to elaborate I get given "dd: reading `/dev/dvd': Input/output error"
[20:19] <linduxed> prince_jammys: vipw fixed it
[20:20] <saji> vi editor is not working. It doesn't respond to the arrow keys, as it should.What to do?
[20:21] <nozeup> ask
[20:21] <saji> vi editor is not working. It doesn't respond to the arrow keys, as it should.What to do?
[20:22] <pelmen> saji: use "hjkl" keys
[20:22] <linduxed> prince_jammys: ActionParsnip: so i just edited the /etc/passwd file with vipw, should i do something to /etc/shadow?
[20:22] <Crayboff> how do I get supertuxkart to go faster than like 4 fps? seems like this is the only game with this problem
[20:22] <saji> i tried tat.
[20:22] <Crayboff> btw 4 is a total guess, but close
[20:22] <Cripple> onetic.net
[20:22] <Crayboff> haha
[20:22] <Cripple> Gah. Sorry.
[20:22] <Cripple> Hey, Crayboff
[20:22] <legend2440> solexious: dd if=/dev/dvd of=isoname bs=1024    perhaps?
[20:23] <Crayboff> sup mafia?
[20:23] <saji> Many of my friends who installed the Ubuntu 9.04 is experiencing the same problem.?
[20:23] <bonez46> how do I launch a gui application 'AS ROOT'?
[20:23] <Cripple> Not much.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> linduxed: ive never had to edit those files so can't comment. They are very sensitive and may break your system
[20:23] <prince_jammys> linduxed: no
[20:23] <Andycas> Does anyone know a way to fool a router into thinking that im connecting from WAN port, instead of LAN? I basically need it to think that i am from outside, because it only allows telnet access to my ISP
[20:24] <solexious> legend2440, doesnt seem to help
[20:24] <Ravahan> Halitech: Okay, getting toward the end of the cycle here.  Lets see what happens.  Is there a way to safely terminate this if it starts over?
[20:24] <prince_jammys> linduxed: leave /etc/shadow alone. just change the new homedirs in /etc/passwd
[20:24] <deany> legend2440, I suggest 2048
[20:24] <linduxed> ActionParsnip: i liked prince_jammys answer :-D
[20:25] <linduxed> prince_jammys: thx, made me think of http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=21781
[20:25] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:25] <prince_jammys> linduxed: this could also probably have been achieved with the usermod command. if you were careful, getting the homedir wrong in passwd is not the end of the world.
[20:25] <Cripple> How do I connect to foonetic.net?
[20:25] <solexious> legend2440, If i open the dvd in Movie Player I get, "Could not open Location, you might not have permission to open the file"
[20:25] <linduxed> well i could log in with a test user after change so i think all is well
[20:25] <Cripple> Sorry, probably a noobish question...
[20:26] <molina_> can i get help for ubuntu here?
[20:26] <Crayboff> Cripple: /server irc.foonetic.net
[20:26] <Crayboff> yes molina
[20:26] <Cripple> Thank you. Christ.... lol
[20:26] <ralph> quit
[20:26] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:26] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:26] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:26] <FloodBot1> saji: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <prince_jammys> linduxed: good. i'm pretty sure that covers it, though i'd research to see if something was forgotten.
[20:26] <Muad> Hello all.  Is anyone who is knowledgeable about install/grub available to helpa  noob out of a hole?
[20:26] <koltroll> hey folks. I installed the array kernel following the installation guide. Did a reboot. But uname -a still tells me I'm using the generic kernel.
[20:27] <prince_jammys> linduxed: some other conf file that requires that you specify the default /home in your system, maybe.
[20:27] <koltroll> When I did the install i notice there where two things that couldn't be performed due to missing kernel-headers-eeepc-blabla. So I did a apt-get install on these. Do I perhaps need to reinstall the array-kernel?
[20:28] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:28] <Crayboff> so anyone around here know how to increase the fps for supertuxkart? it's something like 2 fps right now and it's very annoying
[20:28] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:28] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:28] <saji> My vi editor is not responding to the keyboard keys.
[20:28] <FloodBot1> saji: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <koltroll> saji, man vi
[20:28] <UBUNTUVISTA> does anyone know how to install the aquarium cube effect?
[20:28] <UBUNTUVISTA> compiz
[20:28] <UBUNTUVISTA> ???
[20:28] <prince_jammys> saji: install vim
[20:29] <saji> i installed vim, in vain
[20:29] <prince_jammys> saji: sudo apt-get install vim , and invoke as 'vim', not 'vi'
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> UBUNTUVISTA: i'd head to #compiz
[20:30] <prince_jammys> saji: mm. and no luck, huh?
[20:30] <DPic> how can i rip a dvd to get rid of the region lock and burn it back to a DVD and keep the menu's and such?
[20:30] <SycoSoldier> exit
[20:30] <saji> so is the default vi editor having some bug?
[20:30] <prince_jammys> saji: what keys don't work?
[20:30] <deva> any particular recommendations for ubuntu IRC client? i have been using pidgin, but want one that allows custom notifications to be set up
[20:31] <Horatio_Hellpop> Can someone please help me update OSS?
[20:31] <prince_jammys> saji: also, there is a #vim channel.
[20:31] <noquinho> hi
[20:31] <noquinho> could u help me?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> !irc | deva
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> deva: if you like pidgin, use it. I think its great
[20:31] <saji> after i enter the vi editor, to move into the typing mode i press 'i' it responds only after many presses
[20:31] <noquinho> i deleted windows vista from my notebook
[20:31] <koltroll> and i like xchat!
[20:32] <noquinho> and i installed ubuntu
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> noquinho: did you get my instruction ni #kubuntu?
[20:32] <prince_jammys> saji: try #vim
[20:32] <noquinho> but i need my  cd and he says
[20:32] <koltroll> saji, pico is your friend
[20:32] <noquinho>  UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[20:32] <deva> I generally like pidgin, but haven't been able to set up custom notices. eg, when someone says my name, a notifier window pops up, but i want that to happen for specific other words too
[20:32] <noquinho> [15450.869939] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[20:32] <peeps[work]> why is there no man page for bg
[20:32] <DPic> how can i rip a dvd to get rid of the region lock and burn it back to a DVD and keep the menu's and such?
[20:33] <jrib> peeps[work]: help bg, it's a builtin
[20:33] <prince_jammys> peeps[work]: it's a bash builtin: 'help bg'
[20:33] <Pici> peeps[work]: Its a shell builtin
[20:33] <saji> also fs
[20:33] <saji> sorry..
[20:33] <peeps[work]> ok, thanks all
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> noquinho: try adding -t iso9660
[20:33] <noquinho> how ?
[20:33] <Horatio_Hellpop> Anyone using Open Sound?
[20:34] <molina_> During the installation of ubuntu I added/ mounted two NTFS HDD that have all media. I am trying to share those HDD on my network, but because the owner is "root" i cant' I tried to use the sudo chown command.. i put imy password and it does not change anything?
[20:34] <saji> koltroll:does pico have the same problem with VI?
[20:34] <tj83> who would be able to tell me if i can legally use the ubuntu logo on my website?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> noquinho: try:   sudo mount /dev/sr0 -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0
[20:34] <koltroll> saji, it's another editor. which I personally prefer.
[20:35] <prince_jammys> tj83: the terms are detailed in the "license" section of the ubuntu site.
[20:35] <saji> koltroll, is it the one based on nano?
[20:35] <Andycas> Is it possible to fool router iptables into thinking that I am connecting from WAN port (DSLAM), instead from LAN? Are there even any tools for spoofing ip packets on live?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> if you put the CD in and run:   sudo mount -a    it should mount for you
[20:35] <sidewalk> anyone know what application i can use instead of tcpdump for wlans?
[20:35] <koltroll> saji, not sure which one is based on who really
[20:35] <koltroll> saji, buy they are very similar.
[20:35] <saji> koltroll, does it offer syntax highlighting?
[20:36] <prince_jammys> tj83: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[20:36] <th0r> sidewalk: wireshark
[20:36] <tj83> prince_jammys, ty
[20:36] <koltroll> saji, don't think so no
[20:36] <Horatio_Hellpop> Anyone familiar with Open Sound?
[20:37] <saji> koltroll, i need an editor with with syntax highlighting.
[20:37] <koltroll> why does it haft to be console based +
[20:37] <koltroll> Why not use something with a nice graphical interface ^^
[20:37] <th0r> saji: I'm not sure...but I think nedit had syntax highlighting...been years since I looked at it
[20:38] <prince_jammys> why not let him use what he wants to use, and fix the problem?
[20:38] <prince_jammys> he should be able to use vim
[20:39] <saji> prince_jammys, i would like to correct my Vi editor.
[20:39] <prince_jammys> yes, i know.
[20:39] <prince_jammys> .. /join #vim  and ask there if you don't get a solution here.
[20:40] <prince_jammys> ... and look at the FAQ in the topic of the channel
[20:40] <saji> prince_jammys. this is the first time i'm using IRC.
[20:40] <prince_jammys> ok, type: /join #vim  and ask there. also, once there, type /topic
[20:40] <prince_jammys> and you'll see a link to their FAQ
[20:40] <phil__> bonjour
[20:41] <Keiffer> Hi. How can I get a version reply in Xchat?
[20:41] <saji> prince_jammys, thnks. I'll try and be back.
[20:41] <JPSman> soooooo i'm having problems installing kubuntu with wubi
[20:42] <koltroll> Keiffer, /ctcp nick version
[20:42] <MadGhost> Can I ask?
[20:42] <Muad> *noob alert*   So I had XP and decided to install Ubuntu. I installed it on a separate drive and recieved a GRUB error when booting. so I installed again. same issue different error number.   Finally I disconnected my windows drive and installed on a totally blank drive. now the install worked but I cant get to my windows installation at all.   When I try to boot to that HDD I get the GRUB error.
[20:42] <JPSman> How do I uninstall grub4dos that came with Wubi?
[20:42] <MadGhost> Why need using Linux?
[20:42] <koltroll> no need using linux
[20:42] <MadGhost> for desctop users...
[20:43] <prince_jammys> many reasons
[20:43] <MadGhost> which?
[20:43] <MadGhost> in windows many programs
[20:43] <prince_jammys> that's the downside
[20:43] <Keiffer> koltroll, thanks. Is there any way to spoof that? Instead of Ubuntu to show Windows?
[20:44] <JPSman> Muad- you need to re-write to your master boot record (MBR)
[20:44] <koltroll> Keiffer, no idea. probably
[20:44] <prince_jammys> MadGhost: some upsides: free software, good community, security ...
[20:44] <JPSman> Muad- Do you have your windows CD?  if so you can run the recovery console from the CD and tell it to fix your MBR on that hard drive
[20:44] <prince_jammys> MadGhost: there is no "need" to use it, however, if you're happy with what you have.
[20:44] <MadGhost> good community is very good, I'm agree
[20:45] <MadGhost> but security in new Windows 7 is very good too
[20:45] <prince_jammys> it's not like Windows is the only other OS, either.
[20:45] <Muad> JPSman I attempted to do so as I found on the forums but I still get the same "error 17" on my windows drive.  also I tried editing my menu.lst to show windows and cannot save anything to it.
[20:45] <prince_jammys> MadGhost: /join #ubuntu-offtopic  to discuss this.
[20:45] <MadGhost> prince_jammys> I want compare its two OS
[20:46] <MadGhost> thank you
[20:46] <prince_jammys> MadGhost: do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <ecolitan> I got this error, [00000499] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp) and cant find out what is using the audio device?
[20:46] <prince_jammys> MadGhost: here it's all support questions for the OS
[20:46] <saji> Madghost>Linux is mostly virus safe.
[20:47] <PolitikerALT> No, in fact linux is not very virus safe - but there are few virusses for linux
 curves hands is in fault at all
[20:47] <MadGhost> i think
[20:47] <Sky[x]> linux dont have viruses but have exploits :D
[20:48] <kaini> There are just two viruses for linux
i'm comparing Windows and linux.
[20:48] <kaini> And both are dead
[20:48] <iceroot> !ot
[20:48] <MadGhost> if you work in Linux in root level, and execute some program with virus, what matter?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> kaini: theres 21 actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[20:49] <ecolitan> anyone know how to find what process has audio device locked?
[20:49] <prince_jammys> MadGhost: you can also dual-boot (and a few other ways) if you'd like to run both linux and windows. please go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat about this.
[20:49] <barqers> Can I get some help?
[20:49] <JPSman> who is THE BOMB with wubi here?
 let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss there.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: you could restart hal and pulse, should do it
[20:50] <dballester> hi to all, installing 9.04 in x86 machine, installations seems stumped at 99% 'running post-installation trigger libc6' any tip ?
[20:50] <barqers> I just bought a keyboard, and I tried going to keyboard shortcuts, to configure the keys, but it seems it doesn't pick up certain keys such as logoff and calculator, so is there a way to manually add these?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard | barqers
[20:50] <ohmygawd> anyone here reccomend a good calendar program for ubuntu?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> !shortcuts | barqers
[20:50] <ecolitan> ActionParsnip and as for root cause ?
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: no idea
[20:51] <kaini> ActionParsnip, interresting, german Wikipedia says two but you are right
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> ohmygawd: sunbird
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> kaini: its common ;)
[20:51] <RomD> will windows' bootrec /fixboot /fixmbr and /rebuildbcd corrupt grub?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> RomD: it will overwrite the boot sector on the disk with NTLDR
[20:52] <ecolitan> ActionParsnip i really need the root cause, trying to set up a remote media server and cant have local process randomly locking the sound device
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> RomD: the grub config will stand, it just won't get used
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> ecolitan: then read through   dmesg | less
[20:52] <RomD> I can't boot vista anymore
[20:52] <RomD> is there any way to restore grub afterwards?
[20:52] <Zxcvb> does ubuntu use sun openoffice or novell openoffice?
[20:53] <barqers> ActionParsnip: Thank you, I will look into that!
[20:53] <trakcyia> How do I record sound output? (what you hear is what you get)
[20:53] <saji> Zxcvb, its Sun's
[20:54] <xevil> RomD: you can use the Ubuntu install disk to rescue grub
[20:54] <RomD> thanks ActionParsnip and xevil
[20:55] <trakcyia> I tried with audacity but it only lets me select capture devices, how can I map output to capture?
[20:55] <ohmygawd> thanks ActionParsnip
[20:55] <saji> trackcyia, why would you need that?
[20:55] <Keiffer> can someone ctcp version me please?
[20:56] <Keiffer> an paste the reply
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> ctcp version Keiffer
[20:57] <Keiffer> ActionParsnip that's all?
[20:59] <JPSman> I uninstalled wubi with addremove and the grub4dos is still there on system restarts.  How can I remove this?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: use your windows CD to fixmbr fixboot. this will reinstall NTLDR
[21:00] <JPSman> ActionParsnip - I already did this and its still there
[21:01] <JPSman> ActionParsnip - what is fixboot its own program?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: then I'd ask in ##windows as wubi + Ubuntu are no longer on your system
[21:01] <manja> how do I update to the latest stable release?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: its a command in recovery console
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> manja: sudo update-manager -d
[21:01] <manja> thx
[21:02] <stercor> I believe I have a UI (GUI?) problem.  I have to double-tap the quote and double-quote keys to get one of them.  It wreaks havoc in PHP.
[21:02] <Pici> manja: No
[21:02] <manja> Pici, no ?
[21:02] <JPSman> ActionParsnip - thnx i'm off to try it.  Should I re-run fixmbr then fixboot?
[21:02] <Pici> manja: Use -p
[21:02] <Pici> manja: -d is for the lastest Development release.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> JPSman: definately, if not. ask in ##windows
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Pici: my bad
[21:02] <syntech> stercor, it sounds like you have the international keyboard set.
[21:03] <manja> Pici, thanks!
[21:03]  * JPSman shudders
[21:03] <JPSman> ok thanks
[21:04] <manja> Pici, don't I need --dist-upgrade ?
[21:04] <Frank83> Greetings! I was wondering, Ubuntu 9.04 has a firewall as default?
[21:04] <trakcyia> I want a commasd line in my taskbar so badly
[21:05] <Frank83> I mean, a firewall enabled by default?
[21:05] <kajakmanden> Hi
[21:05] <kajakmanden> Just installede ubuntu 64 bit
[21:05] <stercor> syntech: I believe you are correct.  Does this mean a re-install, or is there a way to set the keyboard in a GUI?
[21:05] <kajakmanden> how to run 32 bit programs?
[21:06] <erUSUL> kajakmanden: install libia32 packages
[21:06] <syntech> stercor, i forgot, i think theres a way to reconfigure without having to reinstall :P
[21:06] <erUSUL> !info ia32-libs
[21:06] <kajakmanden> erUSUL: explain please iam not familiar with ubuntu
[21:06] <syntech> just google it
[21:06] <syntech> type
[21:06] <syntech> ubuntu configure keyboard type
[21:06] <stercor> syntech: OK.  I will poke around a bit.
[21:07] <syntech> or something
[21:07] <erUSUL> kajakmanden: install this package --> ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems <<<
[21:07] <kajakmanden> where do i find the packaga?
[21:07] <erUSUL> !software | kajakmanden
[21:08] <eth01> i've booted into ubuntu live - and i'm trying to find my multicardreader for a compactflash drive.. where do i find this?
[21:08] <erUSUL> kajakmanden: System>Admin>Synaptic (but do read the docs pointed out by ubottu)
[21:08] <ecolitan> anyone know how to find what process has audio device locked?
[21:08] <Trijntje> I'm not able to hibernate in ubuntu 9.04. How can I enable hibernation?
[21:08] <kajakmanden> no libia32 files there
[21:09] <eth01> just it's not showing in computer
[21:09] <Frank83> Good day. I am poking around with ufw (Uncomplicated firewall) using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html but I was wondering, how can I use it to open UDP/TCP. The guide only says about ssh
[21:10] <kajakmanden> i give up cant find libia32
[21:10] <alice|wl> hello, I m using ubuntu with fluxbox ... how can I have a automount dir for usb sticks and stuff?
[21:10] <jaysonsantos> Hello people, how can I copy Ubuntu Live CD to my ram memory to free my cd-rom ?
[21:10] <saji> How can hear sound simultaneoulsy both in the laptop speaker and the headphone
[21:10] <kajakmanden> beside that not even the linux driver for my graphiccard works
[21:11] <prince_jammys> !info ia32-libs | kajakmanden
[21:11] <kajakmanden> iam totaly lost
[21:11] <prince_jammys> mm, it's available in hardy
[21:11] <eth01> where will i find the compactflash drive?
[21:11] <prince_jammys> in 'universe'
[21:11] <kajakmanden> asked how to run 32 bit files and was told a file name that do not exist???
[21:12] <th0r> eth01: if it is automounted it should be in /media
[21:12] <JPSman> ActionParsnip - that was a no go too, switching to ##windows
[21:12] <Frank83> Kajakmandn: I might be wrong, but I think that Ubuntu 64 allows to run x32 files by default with no need to install anything.
[21:12] <eth01> where will i find my compactflash in ubuntu?
[21:12] <eth01> thor: thanks
[21:12] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have a rt2500 that is not seeing an access point but I am seeing in iwconfig and ifconfig I would appreciate some help as it was working at one point the other day.
[21:12] <prince_jammys> kajakmanden: well, the package ia32-libs is showing here (hardy)
[21:12] <kajakmanden> Frank83: it says it cant
[21:12] <saji> kajakmanden search http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for libia32, search it as "lib ia32"
[21:12] <Trijntje> kajakmanden: someone wanted the bot to give you information about a package, but the bot said (to you) that that package didnt exist
[21:12] <jimisrvrox> using Ubuntu 9.04
[21:12] <quentusrex_> Help. I'm trying to get ubuntu installed on an asus eee pc 701, but the screen resolution won't let me see the close/apply buttons.
[21:13] <quentusrex_> Any ideas????
[21:13] <the> what's the difference between those passphrases ascii hex and all those 63 64 bit details of wireless? i can't figure out the right settings.. and some terms are.. misleading
[21:13] <eth01> th0r: all i see is the main hdd
[21:13] <kajakmanden> Wooohoo finaly bingo
[21:13] <th0r> eth01: then it didn't automount. Unplug it, open a terminal and type 'tail -f /var/log/messages'. Then plug it back in and see if you can see any new lines in messages
[21:13] <Frank83> Kajakmanden: Which file are you trying to run or open
[21:13] <prince_jammys> kajakmanden: what was it?
[21:13] <kajakmanden> now then explain how a linux wont run on this system it is of course a 64 bit
[21:13] <saji> kajakmanden, got it?
[21:14] <kajakmanden> yup got the grrh file
[21:14] <salvador> hi
[21:14] <kajakmanden> installing alot of other stuff 2
[21:14] <Lostinspace_46> I need to know how to find my default iso-8859 .  I looked in dmesg thinking it might be set at boot, but no luck there.
[21:14] <shake> how can I find folder1/folder2 in my file system?
[21:14] <Trijntje> When i open the 'user switch /shutdown/restart/etc' applet sometimes it shows 'hibernate', but sometimes it doesnt show. What could cause this?
[21:15] <kajakmanden> after i installed the ia32 i still cant start 32 bit programs
[21:15] <the> how to generate a valid wpa_supplicant file? any assistant in ubuntu for that?
[21:15] <saji> kajakmanden, is 64 bit Ubuntu not working in your PC?
[21:15] <prince_jammys> shake: one way is locate f1/f2
[21:15] <kajakmanden> saji: nope its running like *caugh*
[21:15] <semko> is apt-get update same as running the update manager?
[21:15]  * semko gazes
[21:16] <kajakmanden> not even a 64 bit linux file can run weird...
, then what's the problem?
[21:16] <manja> I just did sudo update-manager -p but I'm not sure wether I shouldn't have used --dist-upgrade, how can I check my dist version number?
[21:16] <th0r> semko: no
[21:16] <the> semko, also do this: apt-get upgrade
[21:16] <Bookman> I cannot figure out why my system is always running 100% cpu.  Right now my load averages are 3.3, 4.7, 4.7 and I'm must running system monitor and xchat
[21:16] <Frank83> Is it worth to enable the UFW (Firewall) for linux?
[21:16] <jonc101> anyone else growing a beard in anticipation for 9.10 ?
[21:17] <kajakmanden> saji: 1. can run my 6 bit linux grapgic driver file 2. can run my 32 bit game file
[21:17] <prince_jammys> manja: lsb_release -r
[21:17] <semko> th0r, the so it is both?
[21:17] <kajakmanden> saji: 64*
[21:17] <th0r> semko: apt-get update updates the repo lists. Update manager checks all installed packages for available updates
[21:17] <manja> prince_jammys, thx
[21:17] <caMelCase> Hi folks. I'm new here. Is this the right place to ask a question about a configuration problem with ubuntu?
[21:17] <jerkman> hey, im using vuze (azuerus) and my modem keeps crashing so that the torrents keep going, but all pc's connected loose web access. I have just limited the number of connections, is that likely the problem?
[21:17] <the> the wireless setup is such a pain. no settings work.
[21:17] <Trijntje> caMelCase: yes
[21:18] <caMelCase> hi trijntje
[21:18] <semko> thx guys
, Is the 64bit driver available?
[21:18] <syntax> is vuze the best for torrent files?
[21:18] <jerkman> i like it it syntax
[21:18] <manja> prince_jammys, it says 8.04 but when I do sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade it says I have the latest version, this isn't right
[21:18] <jonc101> well im growing a beard in anticipation of 9.10
[21:18] <manja> jonc101, not in anticipation for 9.10 but a beard still, keep it growing!
[21:19] <kajakmanden> saji: downloaded original graphic driver from ATI in 64 bit linux file version
[21:19] <the> syntax, it works well.
[21:19] <syntax> Ima try it out
[21:19] <Trijntje> syntax: It depends, what do you want to do? Vuze is very extended, transmission is very simple, both download torrents ;)
[21:19] <syntax> I use to use it for windows but i havent did it for linux yet
[21:19] <the> syntax, other tools work also but fail for many details.
[21:19] <syntax> Word ?
[21:19] <jonc101> Excel
[21:19] <the> Trijntje, transmission is buggy
[21:19] <jerkman> syntax: it has quite a good level of config, and nice statistics
[21:19] <caMelCase> ok, I've got ubuntu 8.10 running a few month. Yesterday i had connected a second display (VGA) on my NVidia Geforce 6200. The primary display was and is already connected via DVI
[21:20] <erUSUL> !ati | kajakmanden
[21:20] <syntax> installing now
[21:20] <jerkman> syntax: transmission is bad, and it actually has lower transfer speeds
[21:20] <Trijntje> the: i use it every day, i have no problems with it
[21:20] <Frank83> the Is it really? Trans works for me. How is it buggy?
, could you install it?
[21:20] <jerkman> Trijntje: same, until my router blew
[21:20] <jerkman> now my modem keeps dropping out
[21:20] <kajakmanden> saji: no it is saying " sec.."
[21:21] <Trijntje> jerkman: did you try limiting the max amount of connections transmission can have?
[21:21] <manja> how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 ?
[21:21] <kajakmanden> saji: saying cant open file do to sign coding
[21:21] <caMelCase> I setup the second display with nvidia-settings (without root). The configuration was not overwritten because the second display should be used very temporarly.
[21:21] <barqers> Can someone tell me the command to switch to desktop 3? or to desktop 4? so I can create a shortcut.
[21:21] <jerkman> Trijntje: just done it, but it would appear to have happened again...
[21:21] <barqers> It only comes with switch to desktop 1&2
[21:21] <Lostinspace_46> I can't seem to get my automatic nick completion to work.
[21:21] <erUSUL> manja: 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 in those two steps
[21:22] <manja> erUSUL, ok then how do I upgrade to 8.10 ?
, ahat sort of package file is it?
[21:22] <Trijntje> jerkman: limit too how many?
[21:22] <erUSUL> !upgrade | manja
[21:22] <the> well, i once lost all torrents since it somehow screwed. also transmission crashes quite frequently. it doesn't recheck the file as efficient as vuze. it redownloads more that it should.
[21:22] <manja> erUSUL, thx
[21:22] <jerkman> Trijntje: i can talk here, and continue downloading, but the http side dies on all pc's connected
[21:22] <jerkman> Trijntje: 150
[21:22] <mcquaid> i have a ups, and the power just went out and immediately came back on.  I saw message popup, running on battery backup, but it no message it's resumed ac power
[21:22] <jimisrvrox> need help with wireless..when I do iwconfig I cannot get an access point
[21:22] <mcquaid> how do I check/change ups settings?
[21:22] <kajakmanden> saji:  i dunno iam a nooby in package and ubuntu in overall lol
[21:23] <caMelCase> as I did disconnect the second display and did reboot the system, the resolution of the primary display was set to 1024x768. Before it was at 1280x1024.
[21:23] <jonc101> mcquaid: hover your mouse over the notifier
[21:23] <saji> kajakmanden, did u try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto as said by ubottu.
[21:23] <caMelCase> I had to open the console and sudo nvidia-settings to store the right resolution in xorg.conf
[21:24] <Trijntje> jerkman:150 is very low, that shouldnt cause any problems. Maby someone else in your house is using a lot of connections? Most (NAT) routers seem to be limited to 1024 connections
[21:24] <kajakmanden> saji: man... tryed all wont be long then i try something i know works killing ubuntu for vere lol
[21:24] <casey> i'm running 9.04 and i want to know were is the startup directory?
[21:24] <caMelCase> not the resolution is right again but now I expect problems with the powersave mode
[21:24] <mcquaid> jonc101, the msg was a pop up, the notifier currently show nothing
[21:24] <TU_> Question i just did a server install and i skipped the network install
[21:24] <jonc101> mcquaid: are you on a laptop?
[21:24] <TU_> anyway to run that now
[21:24] <eth01> th0r: i need to extract an .img ?
[21:24] <mcquaid> no
[21:24] <mcquaid> desktop with ups
[21:24] <kajakmanden> bye
[21:25] <mcquaid> power goes out a lot in this house
[21:25] <saji> kajakmanden, why did u switch to 64 bit ubuntu? the packages available for it is very less, compared to the 32 bit.
[21:25] <sidewalk> is there some kind of tcpdump for wifi?
[21:25] <jonc101> mcquaid: and your desktop is plugged into the UPS via a USB cord?
[21:25] <kajakmanden> saji: do to power in the game
[21:25] <mcquaid> yes
[21:25] <Lostinspace_46> I need to know how to find my default iso-8859 .  I looked in dmesg thinking it might be set at boot, but no luck there.
[21:25] <mcquaid> it's an apc model, i've done zero configuration wise in ubuntu for this device
[21:25] <saji> kajakmanden, so you would have to compile the drivers yourself.
[21:25] <mcquaid> but the usb hookup works fine in windows with it's software
[21:26] <the> where is the wpa_supplicant.conf located ?
[21:26] <eth01> th0r: i need to extract an img..
[21:26] <eth01> .img
[21:26] <erUSUL> Lostinspace_46: ubuntuuses utf8 by default
[21:26] <JPSman> who is in charge of writing wubi?  can I e-mail them my problem?
[21:26] <mcquaid> does a special app have to be installed in ubuntu for ups?  normally I would think so, but that message notification made me think it already detects the device
[21:26] <jonc101> mcquaid: you can configure a bunch of stuff via power management
[21:26] <erUSUL> JPSman: check in its homepage
[21:26] <the> eth01, .img does not mean a thing
[21:26] <mcquaid> just can't see a status
[21:26] <kajakmanden> saji:  i took ubuntu cause i heard it was easy but dont seems that way so iam out and deleteing it again
[21:26] <deany> eth01, mount it then.
[21:26] <erUSUL> !wubi | JPSman
[21:26] <mcquaid> i looked in power management, i can set settings when it enables, but i don't see current status anywhere
[21:26] <eth01> deany: i need to put it onto a compactflash though
[21:27] <mcquaid> last msg said 'now running on battery'
[21:27] <WIGGMPk> why is it that some of the icon's for a program stop working?? it just shows a red 'x' in a white box where the icon should be? Im running Jaunty amd64 and the applications are pidgin, transmission and few other (this doesnt happen all the time)
[21:27] <mcquaid> nm i found it
[21:27] <casey>  i'm running 9.04 and i want to know where is the startup directory? i want add a script
[21:27] <deany> eth01, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[21:27] <jonc101> where was it?
[21:27] <mcquaid> i didn't have it enabled in the notification area it states ac power
[21:28] <mcquaid> just wanted to know i'm not draining the battery
[21:28] <erUSUL> casey: in linux is /etc/init.d/ for suystem wide scripts... or simply add a call to your script from /etc/rc.local
[21:28] <mcquaid> the power went on/off for an instant, so maybe it was too quick to report the popup msg of back to ac power
[21:28] <jonc101> could be
[21:28] <casey> do i add the script to a file?
[21:28] <jerkman> Trijntje: im the only one on right now, but it has done this before.. basically i had a perfect setup until a week ago when my modem/router got zapped by lightning. until my new one is delivered, i have setup a little modem and router setup and the modem seems not to like me...
[21:29] <erUSUL> casey: if you want to run it when you log in.. System>Preferences>init apps
[21:29] <mcquaid> but i don't see any settings on when the ups gets tripped, there are some fairly advanced setting with it's windows software
[21:29] <mcquaid> is there a more robust pkg to manage ups devices?
[21:29] <stercor> How may I change the keyboard type from international to something saner?
[21:29] <casey> i can't find it
[21:30] <erUSUL> stercor: system>Preferences > Kyboard
[21:30] <erUSUL> !boot | casey
[21:30] <jonc101> mcquaid: good question, but usually the provider of the UPS needs to provide the software and most times they dont have any linux software
[21:30] <stercor> erUSUL: I do not have System/Preferences...
[21:30] <erUSUL> stercor: kubuntu ?
[21:30] <Lostinspace_46> stercor; System>Preferences>keyboard
[21:31] <urban__> anyone here some good tutorial how ti install zend studio on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[21:31] <Trijntje> jerkman:lightning? that sounds bad.. :P But if you're just waiting for a replacement i wouldn't put too much effort in debuggin it
[21:31] <mcquaid> well apc are pretty common, i notice there's a pkg apcupsd and a web interface, going to look into that now
[21:31] <stercor> erUSUL: jaunty 9.04 vanilla ubuntu.
[21:32] <sidewalk> can anyone recommend a wlan traffic visualizer for ubuntu?
[21:32] <th0r> sidewalk: etherape and wireshark
[21:32] <jonc101> mcquaid: let us know how it goes
[21:32] <erUSUL> stercor: my menu is in spanish so i may have given the wrong name but take a look in System>Preferences> for a keyboard related entry
[21:32] <Lostinspace_46> stercor;  Yes you do..its in the top panel on your desktop
[21:32] <sidewalk> th0r: thanks
[21:32] <jerkman> Trijntje: i want to download this uh... legal stuff... obviously... soon
[21:32] <stercor> erUSUL: None there...
[21:33] <Trijntje> jerkman: have you tried using Vuze instead of transmission?
[21:33] <Lostinspace_46> stercor;  Do you see on the top left of your desktop where it says System?
[21:33] <jerkman> Trijntje: that is what i am using
[21:34] <Trijntje> jerkman: in that case, have you tried Transmission
[21:34] <stercor> Lostinspace_46: When I left-click in an unoccupied area I get the System option but there is only xload and window managers.
[21:35] <jerkman> Trijntje: no, but id have to transfer lots of torrents and data and i dont know if that can be done
[21:35] <Lostinspace_46> stercor:  Do you have a top and bottom panel?
[21:35] <erUSUL> stercor: it has to be there... i have to run now... ask the channel again
[21:35] <ohmygawd> noob question: i just extracted a .tar.gz file to my root folder, now its created the new folder with root permissions and i cant access it - how do i delete?
[21:35] <eth01> sudo umount /dev/device/node fails though?
[21:35] <stercor> Lostinspace_46: I really do not want to re-install ubuntu.
[21:36] <pelmen> guys any ideas, when i connect from Ubu to Ubu using remote terminal client or remote desktop viewer non of them update pictures.
[21:36] <Trijntje> jerkman: If you set up bandwidht and number of peers properly in Transmission it should work fine. But then again, so should Vuze
[21:36] <Lostin> stercor: Do you have a bar at the top and bottom of your desktop?
[21:36] <pelmen> interesting thing i can see mouse movements, but that's it
[21:36] <Trijntje> jerkman: or you could try to look in your router how many connections it can support
[21:36] <stercor> Lostin: only on the bottom.
[21:36] <prince_jammys> ohmygawd: sudo rm -r /undesirable_dir
[21:37] <prince_jammys> ohmygawd: that will remove the directory
[21:37] <jerkman> Trijntje: yea, ill be getting a new belkin N1 on monday tho, so i suppose i can wait
[21:37] <Lostin> stercor:  THAT is your problem
[21:37] <prince_jammys> ohmygawd: oh, and avoid doing what you just did. extract the stuff somewhere else.
[21:37] <jerkman> it take 2 minutes to reset the internet i suppose.. Trijntje
[21:37] <apoleo12> question: how do I deal with this - [2]+ Stopped <prgramName>
[21:37] <ohmygawd> yeah, that was stupid of me, thanks prince_jammys
[21:37] <stercor> Lostin: How to fix?
[21:38] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: fix what about it?
[21:38] <stercor> Lostin: new WM?
[21:38] <VCoolio> stercor: right click bottom panel, create new panel, place on top and add at least menu and notification area
[21:38] <casey> how do i copy a file
[21:38] <apoleo12> when i type exit it says tehre are stopped jobs
[21:38] <Lostin> stercor: If I remember right, click <alt><f2>
[21:39] <ohmygawd> hmm... prince_jammys, it keeps telling me the directory does not exist
[21:39] <Trijntje> jerkman: ok, i hope you get your new modem soon
[21:39] <th0r> casey: drag and drop, or right click and choose copy
[21:39] <eth01> http://pastebin.com/m2c50a2d - what would the device name node be?
[21:39] <eth01> sdb?
[21:39] <Lostin> stercor:  Type in the box "gnome-panel"
[21:39] <apoleo12> or should it shut with no harm?
[21:39] <Free-Lancer> Is their a way i can automatically input text from my clipboard to a file?
[21:39] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> ping me
[21:39] <prince_jammys> ohmygawd: does it show up when you ls ?
[21:39] <jimisrvrox> I would appreciate some help getting an access point using ubuntu 9.04 and a rt2500 card
[21:39] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> oops wrong chan
[21:40] <casey> using terminal how do i copy a file
[21:40] <ohmygawd> prince_jammys: its in my file browser, showing my the folder with a padlock on it
[21:40] <VCoolio> casey: cp
[21:40] <pelmen> casey: "cp"
[21:40] <prince_jammys> casey: cp somefile /some/destination
[21:40] <Free-Lancer> casey CP /home/file.txt /home/user/
[21:40] <casey> ok ty
[21:40] <Free-Lancer> Is their a way i can automatically input text from my clipboard to a file
[21:40] <apoleo12> prince_jammys: do you get what I mean?
[21:40] <HentaiCrazyAdmin> lol
[21:41] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: `so you backgrounded some jobs, and want to kill them?
[21:41] <apoleo12> yeah
[21:41] <ohmygawd> prince_jammys: yes, it shows up when i ls
[21:41] <dr3mro> hi guys i want to propose idea to the post karmic release we all know karmic has 100 papercuts but i want to propose an idea for the release after karmic how to do it ???
[21:41] <Lostin> stercor: Did you catch what I said?
[21:42] <apoleo12> when i do this jobs -x and it doesnt kill anything
[21:42] <jbu> hi all, i have a a raid chip in my mobo that is making vista believe that my two hard 750GB hard drives show up as a 1.4TB raid0 hard drive...When I try to install in linux it shows  two 750GB hard drives and only one of them has vista installed on it.  My question is do I need to install something in linux to make it recognize the RAID setup?  I thought my chip was doing that
[21:42] <prince_jammys> ohmygawd: make you sure you didn't mistype the dirname, or use tabcompletion to autocomplete it when you run the rm command
[21:42] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: kill %2
[21:42] <ohmygawd> ahh got it
[21:42] <ohmygawd> didnt want the forward slashes, my bad
[21:42] <dr3mro> hi guys i want to propose idea to the post karmic release we all know karmic has 100 papercuts but i want to propose an idea for the release after karmic how to do it ???
[21:42] <eth01> how do i found out the device node ?
[21:43] <apoleo12> %2?
[21:43] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: it's job number 2
[21:43] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: the percent sign goes before the "jobspec" (it's not a PID)
[21:45] <apoleo12> prince_jammys: thanks how will i ever find that info on that?
[21:45] <apoleo12> that helpand man ididnt offer much
[21:45] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: man bash (the long way)
[21:46] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: job management is described there. there's no other preinstalled shorter docs i can think of.
[21:46] <jimisrvrox> prince_jammys: hey are you good with wireless? Im having probs getting an access point in 9.04
[21:46] <prince_jammys> jimisrvrox: no, i'm clueless with that.
[21:46] <jimisrvrox> damn
[21:47] <dralcohen> I would appreciate some advice on how to setup a computer. I'm very new to Linux.  I'm going to dual boot ubuntu with Vista.  1) The system has 2 drives. I would like the 2nd to be a bootable copy of the first. Do I want a Raid 1 setup? If so, how do I go about doing that. 2) I'm confused on how to partition the drive. I was thinking /, /boot, /swap, /home. Do I need any special partition for Raid? I'll be using a few (15-3
[21:47] <luix> algun hispano?
[21:48] <blueyed> anyone here with a tv card having a bt878 / conexant fusion 878a chip?
[21:48] <blueyed> it gets detected, but finds no senders.
[21:48] <joeymorin> greetings.  i'm looking for help with ubuntu 9.04 on my toshiba p30.  specifically, the sd card reader.  anyone out there can help?
[21:51] <eth01> how can i open disk utility?
[21:52] <prince_jammys> luix: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:52] <luix> thanks prince
[21:52] <prince_jammys> de nada ;)
[21:53] <luix> ;)
[21:53] <casey> i'm makeing a startup scritp and i want to know what i do after i made it so it will work
[21:54] <syntech> casey, put it in bash_profile?
[21:54] <syntech> lol
[21:54] <syntech> or something
[21:55] <syntech> fuck i don't know
[21:55] <FloodBot1> syntech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <casey> one did help me but i cliked out and lost what he said
[21:55] <th0r> casey: when do you want the script to start?
[21:56] <casey> when i  log in
[21:56] <th0r> casey: then easiest is to just add it to the startup programs.
[21:56] <casey> i made it and put it in /etc/init.d
[21:56] <casey> now what i do so it will work
[21:56] <th0r> casey: nope...put it in /etc/init.d if you want it to start at bootup, not login
[21:57] <casey> i did
[21:57] <apoleo12> prince_jammys: how about if I can be bale to modify the man pages to add something to it?
[21:57] <th0r> casey: then check the web and read up on runlevels for ubuntu
[21:57] <casey> what do i do know so it will work
[21:57] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: heh, you'll have to run that by the bash developers
[21:58] <apoleo12> what? why? seriously??
[21:58] <th0r> casey: what runlevel do you want it to start at?
[21:58] <apoleo12> i thought its open soucre! :P
[21:58] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: you mean just for your own use?
[21:58] <apoleo12> yeah sure
[21:58] <casey> what is there
[21:58] <apoleo12> prince_jammys: yeah sure
[21:58] <prince_jammys> apoleo12: oh, you'll have to learn to edit man pages. I've never done it
[21:58] <th0r> casey: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[21:59] <gangil> !wine
[21:59] <shaqfu> Hey, I have a quick question about Ubuntu installs and hardware
[21:59] <apoleo12> yeah Ill figure out how heh
[22:00] <shaqfu> I have a 1TB hard drive that I'd like to install Ubuntu minimal on, and it's going into a computer that I'm building later
[22:00] <jrib> shaqfu: best to just ask your question on a single line
[22:00] <shaqfu> jrib: Going for it :)
[22:01] <shaqfu> If I install Ubuntu minimal onto a hard drive, then take the drive out and put it into another computer, will there be any issues/conflicts?
[22:01] <casey> idk i just want this program to start when i log in or start the computer
[22:01] <threethirty> does anyone know of a good tutorial for setting up an email server with sqlite?
[22:01] <jrib> shaqfu: not in theory.  You may need to reconfigure video drivers if you install proprietary ones
[22:01] <cooper77z> hi, I got rid of my program bar in gnome, but no I need to make it come back because whenever I minimize programs now the programs just permanently dissappear from the desktop.
[22:01] <phenom> Any one else get an annoying system beep when they shut down ubuntu?
[22:02] <jrib> cooper77z: right click -> add to panel -> window list
[22:02] <casey> do i put in this or something before it  sudo update-rc.d script_name defaults
[22:02] <shaqfu> jrib: Both systems use nVidia graphical chipsets, and I'm planning on using restricted drivers once it's in the right computer
[22:02] <jrib> casey: what are you trying to accomplish
[22:02] <jrib> shaqfu: should be fine
[22:02] <th0r> casey: those are two different things and you are going to have to pick one. To run it when you log in just click System-Preferences-Startup Applications and add it there
[22:02] <shaqfu> jrib: Thanks :)
[22:02] <phenom> Any patches released for this, other than bandaids such as rmmod pcspkr and the like?
[22:02] <th0r> casey: to start it at bootup read the website I sent you
[22:03] <cooper77z> thanks jrib :)
[22:04] <phenom> This happened after my upgrade to Jaunty
[22:04] <Ali_nz> hey is there any other way to see what disks are connected other than fdisk -l? The browser in nautilus shows another drive, but it aint in fdisk -l
[22:05] <prince_jammys> Ali_nz: sudo fdisk -l  should show it
[22:05] <prince_jammys> Ali_nz: 'mount'  will show what's mounted
[22:05] <Ali_nz> nah it doesnt
[22:05] <Ali_nz> I know the disk has got some errors
[22:05] <Ali_nz> but I was still hoping it would show up
[22:05] <gangil> has anybody tried flex builder in wine?
[22:06] <ohmygawd> i gotta say... ive dabbled with ubuntu in the past but never made the big push... this is the first time ive gone all-linux
[22:06] <dralcohen> I would appreciate some advice on how to setup a computer. I'm very new to Linux.  I'm going to dual boot ubuntu with Vista.  1) The system has 2 drives. I would like the 2nd to be a bootable copy of the first. Do I want a Raid 1 setup? If so, how do I go about doing that. 2) I'm confused on how to partition the drive. I was thinking /, /boot, /swap, /home. Do I need any special partition for Raid? I'll be using a few (15-3
[22:06] <ohmygawd> and it feels goooooooood :)
[22:07] <Ali_nz> i just seem to recall there was another way to see devices?
[22:08] <Trijntje> When i open the 'user switch /shutdown/restart/etc' applet sometimes it shows 'hibernate', but sometimes it doesnt show. What could cause this?
[22:09] <Halitech> Ali_nz, you could try partition editor, it might pick it up if the table has been screwed up
[22:09] <VCoolio> isn't there a way yet to browse network with thunar?
[22:09] <Halitech> VCoolio, not natively
[22:10] <VCoolio> Halitech: I know, but you also don't know about a plugin or something? Didn't find much on google so guess not...
[22:10] <Halitech> VCoolio, look here, it uses fusefs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu
[22:10] <VavaR> what can i do to make wpa_supplicant work with a intel wireless chipset and those both wlan0 wmaster0 it creates.. it fails at Starting AP scan (broadcast SSID)  ioctl[SIOCGIWSCAN]: Operation not supported.. also no success when i try all possible driver and interface combinations
[22:10] <VCoolio> Halitech: thx
[22:11] <Halitech> VCoolio, welcome
[22:11] <xsbyme> can enybody help me
[22:11] <xsbyme> http://xbind.pastebin.com/d3890cb51
[22:12] <ohmygawd> i have one last question before i can deem my new ubuntu system complete
[22:12] <VavaR> what to do if wpa_supplicant fails with Operation not supported errors?
[22:12] <ohmygawd> i installed Spotify under Wine, and it's launching using terminal (wine spotify.exe etc.), is there a way of it NOT displaying the terminal when i do this?
[22:12] <Flannel> xsbyme: What are you compiling?
[22:12] <bruenig> VavaR: are you sure your interface is up
[22:12] <l3dx> ohmygawd: wine spotify.exe &
[22:13] <l3dx> ohmygawd: the & says "go to background!"
[22:13] <xsbyme> my system is screw up i just was trying to add a user
[22:13] <l3dx> ohmygawd: also, consider creating a launcher :) so you don't have to run it from terminal
[22:13] <xsbyme> nothing with compiling
[22:13] <ohmygawd> l3dx: didn't work, it says "Invalid operation: &"
[22:13] <VavaR> bruenig, i explicitly ifconfig wlan0 up but it is down after i tried wpa_supplicant again
[22:13] <ohmygawd> l3dx: its using a launcher atm
[22:14] <xsbyme> l3dx
[22:14] <l3dx> xsbyme
[22:14] <Sinatra> does anyone have skype?? i need to see if i got it to work correclty!
[22:14] <VavaR> bruenig, so it is up. iwlist can see the ap but wpa_supplicant fails
[22:15] <xsbyme> http://xbind.pastebin.com/d3890cb51
[22:15] <Kalmi> Sinatra, call echo123
[22:15] <xsbyme> think u can help me l3dx
[22:15] <Flannel> xsbyme: Screwed up indeed.  What system is this?  Also, what does 'which adduser' give you?
[22:15] <Ali_nz> bugger. the geometry of the disk is being misreported
[22:15] <ohmygawd> Sinatra: ohmygawd
[22:15] <Ali_nz> says its 2199gb
[22:15] <J1m> Does anyone know a way to get around partman hanging during installation?
[22:15] <Ali_nz> its only 40gb
[22:15] <cisoun> linuxmao
[22:15] <Flannel> xsbyme: Try using useradd instead.
[22:15] <Sinatra> does anyone in here have skype?? I simply wanna see if i got it to work Correctly or not ...
[22:16] <Sinatra> Kalmi i tried echo123 and it checked out
[22:16] <Sinatra> now i wanna try it live with a real person
[22:16] <xsbyme> same prob
[22:16] <l3dx> xsbyme: with what?
[22:16] <xsbyme> ubuntu
[22:16] <mefached> I'm having trouble getting mrxvt to act like gnome-terminal did with irssi. Alt+# combinations don't work. Any idea how to fix that?
[22:16] <Flannel> xsbyme: Alright, try getting rid of the perl in your homedir, use the system perl instead.
[22:16] <l3dx> xsbyme: you don't say :P
[22:16] <Flannel> xsbyme: What did you do to screw this system up so badly?
[22:17] <sd32> is there anyway to stop glipper from crashing after reboot?
[22:17] <eu-ubuntu> hello ! i just running ubuntu in my intel atom  litlte laptop  , but the sound plays not loader  what can i do to increase the gain ?  in the old xp system in the same laptop the sound play loader...   , thanks
[22:17] <Halitech> sd32, uninstall it?
[22:17] <sd32> Halitech, then which clipboard manager should i use?
[22:18] <Halitech> sd32, I use clipman
[22:18] <eu-ubuntu> alguem fala portugues aqui ?
[22:18] <Flannel> !pt | eu-ubuntu
[22:18] <sd32> Halitech, ok thanks ill try that one
[22:19] <ohmygawd> how do i stop terminal opening when i use a launcher to open a program under wine?
[22:19] <nicklas_> has anyone gotten fallout 3 working in wine or playonlinux? or in some other way maybe?
[22:21] <sd32> Halitech, clipman is for xfce?
[22:21] <Halitech> sd32, yes but it should work in gnome
[22:21] <urban__> i have the problem with flash player i cant see the picture only soud i can hear what to do ?
[22:21] <sd32> Halitech, ok thanks
[22:25] <Neostatic> Hi i need help installing and using my kubuntu
[22:25] <xtremegamer> hello all
[22:26] <xtremegamer> is there a tool for ubuntu that allows you to export and import a contact list of your cellphone with bleutooth ?
[22:26] <Halitech> Neostatic, what kind of help?
[22:26] <kkrusty> is there a tool for wallpapers for multi-headed displays?
[22:27] <kkrusty> xtremegamer: not sure about this but have you tried gnokii?
[22:27] <xtremegamer> kkrusty > looking in to that now :)
[22:27] <xtremegamer> kkrusty > do you have something similar for samsung ?
[22:28] <sd32> Halitech, after installing clipman i dont see the panel add on
[22:28] <kkrusty> xtremegamer: I am not sure to be honest. I only tried gnokii a long time ago
[22:28] <bmhm> Hi. Whenever I add SSL-VHosts to apache2 in 8.04, apache2 won't come up - it doesn't even give an error message
[22:28] <casey> what is the command for states?
[22:28] <Halitech> sd32, you need to add it, right click - add to panel
[22:29] <sd32> Halitech, i did and its not listed
[22:29] <lstarnes> bmhm: check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:29] <kkrusty> anyone know of a wallpaper changer which will work with multiple displays?
[22:29] <Halitech> sd32, maybe it will only work in xfce, not sure
[22:29] <bmhm> lstarnes, it won't give an error
[22:30] <kkrusty> I could make my own wallpapers. Only problem is that if I take off one display I dont want it to screw everything up
[22:30] <lstarnes> bmhm: does apache2 start at all, or does it just stop with no errors?
[22:30] <bmhm> lstarnes, stopping with no errors
[22:30] <bmhm> well
[22:30] <bmhm> it doesn't even start
[22:31] <bmhm> apache2ctl start \n §
[22:31] <sd32> is there a decent clipboard manager for gnome?
[22:31] <Halitech> bmhm, what does it say if you run sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[22:31] <bmhm> Halitech, same
[22:31] <lstarnes> bmhm: what happens when you try connecting to it?
[22:31] <bmhm> Halitech, * Starting web server apache2         [fail]
[22:32] <bmhm> lstarnes, it's not running, how could I connect?
[22:32] <Halitech> bmhm, check the log file someone mentioned above, it should say why
[22:32] <unop> bmhm, examine your /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:32] <bmhm> Halitech, there is NO LOG ENTRY
[22:32] <bmhm> unop, I said there IS NO LOG ENTRY
[22:32] <bmhm> just silently not starting
[22:32] <lstarnes> bmhm: please watch the caps
[22:32] <bmhm> sry
[22:32] <bmhm> I just don't like to repeat myself
[22:32] <krammer_> I am looking for a scanning program for documents
[22:33] <bmhm> so what am I to do now?
[22:33] <bmhm> btw, apache2ctl -S says all is ok
[22:33] <bmhm> ppl in #http told me my config is ok, too
[22:33] <unop> bmhm, well, have you checked the other log files? under /var/log
[22:33] <bmhm> unop, no not yet. I'll do
[22:34] <gobucks09> wow, my 1st time here.  this is a busy place!
[22:34] <unop> bmhm,  sudo tail -f /var/log/*   # in one terminal  and then attempt to start apache
[22:35] <krammer_> I am looking for a scanning program for documents
[22:35] <edbian> gobucks09: Sure is.  Do you need help with Ubuntu?
[22:35] <gobucks09> I have a question about xubuntu & installing nvidia drivers.  Actually what I want to do is enable 1280x1024.  Where is the conf to edit?
[22:35] <bmhm> unop, I cannot do that. Binary files...
[22:35] <edbian> gobucks09: The glorious and almighty xorg.conf (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[22:36] <bmhm> unop, but all .log stay silent
[22:36] <bmhm> and messages and dmesg, too
[22:37] <xtremegamer> is there a tool for ubuntu that allows you to export and import a contact list of your cellphone with bleutooth ?
[22:37] <gobucks09> xorg.conf was the 1st place I looked, but it's got nothing in it.
[22:37] <gobucks09> ... well, very little.
[22:37] <vaiouser> hello all
[22:38] <VCoolio> sd32: is bit late, but: parcellite is a nice clipboard manager
[22:38] <aftertaf> gobucks09: now i think its in the system settings display tools
[22:38] <marcus> hey
[22:39] <gobucks09> right, but the settings only show you what they want not what I want.
[22:39] <sd32> VCoolio, thanks, ill look at that one
[22:39] <vaiouser> what happens when you use the magic sysrq key combination alt+sysrq+i?
[22:39] <VCoolio> gobucks09: anything in nvidia-settings?
[22:40] <VCoolio> vaiouser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[22:40] <lstarnes> VCoolio: it tries to kill all processes except init
[22:40] <lstarnes> VCoolio: sorry, wrong nick
[22:41] <lstarnes> vaiouser: it kills every process other than init
[22:41] <sd32> VCoolio, just what i wanted..thanks
[22:41] <gobucks09> VCoolio, that brings us to where I am.   So I tried the NVIDIA X sets & got this message "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server"
[22:41] <vaiouser> and the system just runs init? or it starts a runlevel again?
[22:42] <aftertaf> gobucks09: when you boot you see the DKMS NVidia kernel module message ?
[22:42] <lstarnes> vaiouser: no, init is always running
[22:42] <VCoolio> gobucks09: does xorg.conf have an entry like driver <tab> nvidia ?
[22:42] <gobucks09> No.  everything happens pretty fast.
[22:42] <vaiouser> yes this combination does not kill init
[22:42] <vaiouser> what can i do afteri use that combination?
[22:43] <vaiouser> after i*
[22:43] <gobucks09> No, it's pretty vanilla,
[22:43] <gobucks09> Section "Device"
[22:43] <gobucks09> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[22:43] <gobucks09> EndSection
[22:43] <gobucks09> Section "Monitor"
[22:43] <gobucks09> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[22:43] <FloodBot1> gobucks09: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <VCoolio> vaiouser: reisub is the default order to force reboot
[22:43] <lstarnes> vaiouser: the kernel itself handles alt+sysrq and cannot be killed because it is not a process
[22:44] <vaiouser> i know
[22:44] <gobucks09> sorry, 1st time
[22:44] <vaiouser> what i do not know is what i can do afterwards
[22:44] <vaiouser> to recover from it
[22:44] <aftertaf> gobucks09: i doubt the nvidia driver is installed
[22:45] <vaiouser> to access a shell instance
[22:45] <aftertaf> hence the message from nvidia X settings
[22:45] <lstarnes> vaiouser: you may have to reboot
[22:45] <vaiouser> that is what i want to avoid
[22:46] <gobucks09> aftertaf, right it's not.  But when I try sudo nvidia-xconfig it says not found.
[22:47] <lstarnes> vaiouser: I don't think you can avoid it
[22:47] <Imaginativeone_> is there a resource for getting someone to set up mythtv for me?
[22:47] <aftertaf> gobucks09: you're missing some packages
[22:48] <Imaginativeone_> there are guys in the area, but $400 exceeds my budget
[22:48] <aftertaf> type dpkg -l|grep nvidia
[22:48] <koltroll> yeayeayea
[22:48] <aftertaf> gobucks09: you should have nvidia-glx-NNN and nvidia-common
[22:49] <aftertaf> otherwise, install and run jockey.... itll do it for you
[22:50] <vaiouser> what about the alt+sysrq+g combination?
[22:51] <lstarnes> vaiouser: there isn't any alt+sysrq combo that will start a shell
[22:51] <elli222> Hi
[22:51] <elli222> how do i force a DX9 window in wine to go fullscreen?
[22:51] <lstarnes> vaiouser: if you use alt+sysrq+i, then you will most likely have to reboot in order to return the system to a usable state
[22:51] <vaiouser> what i can see on the machine in other room is kernel messages only
[22:52] <elli222> the game has a fullscreen mode, but i suspect it causes crashes
[22:52] <memento> hello is it possible to shutdown the power of a usb- port, maybe through usb-powermanagement or something like this ??
[22:52] <vaiouser> in the other*
[22:53] <gobucks09> aftertaf: nvidia-common was missing.  do I need to reboot after synaptic install?
[22:53] <aftertaf> yep, for module building i think so
[22:53] <aftertaf> or usage at least
[22:53] <vaiouser> there has to be something that can be done
[22:54] <lstarnes> vaiouser: there isn't
[22:54] <gobucks09> aftertaf: ok, I'll try that.
[22:54] <aftertaf> latest update-initramfs for kernel 2.6.28-14 freezes my computer...
[22:54] <aftertaf> good luck :)
[22:54] <jerkman_> bye all, thanks for the help!
[22:54] <gobucks09> is there a way to turn off the system notifications about who left, who arrived?
[22:54] <lstarnes> vaiouser: alt+sysrq+i is only meant to be used when attempting to reboot the system cleanly in an emergency
[22:54] <aftertaf> but only from within X, strange!
[22:55] <aftertaf> gobucks09: yes, depends on software used
[22:55] <lstarnes> gobucks09: it depends on your client
[22:55] <Nathan__> anyone here installed ubuntu on a macbook?
[22:55] <Pengytheduckwin> Can somebody help me with some oddly specific fullscreen problems?
[22:55] <Pengytheduckwin> Whenever I enter fullscreen on a game (like armagetron or teeworlds) it makes the screen go black and start turning white from the bottom up
[22:55] <sd32> gobucks09, in xchat?
[22:55] <vaiouser> it seems that i will lose the data
[22:55] <Nathan__> i burned the powerpc ubuntu CD but the macbook wont let me boot from it for some reason
[22:55] <Nathan__> anyone else here had this problem>
[22:55] <Nathan__> ?
[22:56] <AlexPalmer> the macbook is not PPC
[22:56] <Nathan__> ah right
[22:56] <AlexPalmer> the normal version should work perfectly
[22:56] <edbian> Nathan__: Yeah there is a thread in the ubuntu forums about having to press c or something
[22:56] <Nathan__> so i use the normal ubuntu?
[22:56] <gobucks09> I'm using stock pidgin
[22:56] <edbian> Nathan__: Is this an intel based mac?
[22:56] <Nathan__> edbian: read that thread but it doesnt work
[22:56] <lstarnes> gobucks09: I don't think that's possible in pidgin
[22:56] <Nathan__> edbian: im not sure to be honest ill look into it
[22:56] <gobucks09> thx
[22:56] <VCoolio> gobucks09: there is a plugin that helps a lot
[22:57] <edbian> Nathan__: What year was it built? :)
[22:57] <Nathan__> edbian: yea its intel
[22:57] <gobucks09> VCoolio: what's the plugin?
[22:57] <Nathan__> 2008
[22:57] <mido1> Good eavening.
[22:57] <AlexPalmer> Nathan_: the 64-bit should work
[22:57] <VCoolio> gobucks09: hang on
[22:57] <edbian> Nathan__: Then it is x86 architecture.  Use normal ubuntu
[22:57] <Nathan__> alexpalmer: thanks ill try that
[22:57] <Nathan__> cool thanks alot
[22:57] <lstarnes> VCoolio: does that plugin add that functionality?
[22:57] <edbian> AlexPalmer: I don't think it's a 32 bit intel chip in Macs is it?
[22:57] <AlexPalmer> Nathan__:How new is your MacBook?
[22:57] <Nathan__> x86 is the only one i didnt try
[22:57] <Nathan__> 2008
[22:57] <Nathan__> a year old
[22:58] <AlexPalmer> edbian: My year old Mac supports Ubuntu 64-bit
[22:58] <edbian> AlexPalmer: I didn't know that!
[22:58] <AlexPalmer> Nathan__:so, core 2 duo?
[22:58] <edbian> Nathan__: Def get the normal ix86 ubuntu
[22:59] <Nathan__> yea duo
[22:59] <VCoolio_> gobucks09: join/part hiding
[22:59] <hoogland> Can anyone help with video playback issue on Jaunty 9.04 64-bit edition? I am getting audio in Youtube, but video is not played back properly. Flash 10 alpha for 64-bit installed no other flash dependecies. Also have issues with totem plugin in firefox playing back mms streams...
[22:59] <Nathan__> edbian: ill give that a shot thanks
[22:59] <AlexPalmer> Nathan__:do you know the key combo to boot to CD on the mac?
[22:59] <Guest89323> goodafternoon to every-one here.any one who stay's in the u.s.a. because i need to know what i need to why i can't look at tv/show's on cbs.com and nbc.com .......i do have flash install'd but the website's tv/show will not go-on ..plese help me out
[22:59] <unforgiven512> Is there a way to route all sound to a USB headset when it is plugged in, but send sound to the onboard when not plugged in??
[22:59] <VCoolio_> gobucks09: select it and press configure or something to check the options
[23:00] <brunner> what's the easiest way to clone my laptop hard drive to an external USB drive?  I'm looking to copy the boot sector and everything.
[23:00] <brunner> I thought I'd just be able to use dd, but people who've written tutorials seem to advocate cp and tons of different complicated steps
[23:00] <brunner> couldn't I just dd from my current drive to the new one?
[23:00] <Trijntje> When i open the 'user switch /shutdown/restart/etc' applet sometimes it shows 'hibernate', but sometimes it doesnt show. What could cause this?
[23:00] <aftertaf> brunner: partimage
[23:00] <jondavis> can some one help me out
[23:00] <aftertaf> and dd for the boot sector
[23:00] <edbian> brunner: I don't think that dd will copy the MBR.
[23:01] <brunner> aftertaf: thanks
[23:01] <edbian> jondavis: That depends on what your problem is! :)
[23:01] <aftertaf> brunner: i can give more details if u need
[23:01] <brunner> aftertaf: I'd love that, thanks
[23:01] <lstarnes> edbian: he already said what his problem was as Guest89323
[23:01] <gobucks09> VCoolio: I don't see that as an option.  I'll try again after reboot.
[23:02] <edbian> jondavis: Sorry I have no ideas :(
[23:02] <Neostatic> Sorry if you dont mind me asking, is kubuntu an addon or and operating system?
[23:03] <jondavis> i have been trying to look at tv/show's on web-site's [like]cbs.com nbc.com but is will not show-anything.i got flash install but that is working on just youtube.com
[23:03] <edbian> Neostatic: It is an Operating System
[23:03] <lstarnes> Neostatic: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde installed by default instead of gnome
[23:03] <Neostatic> Okey
[23:03] <jondavis> well
[23:03] <vaiouser> maybe somthing with kexeec?
[23:03] <edbian> jondavis: Go into synaptic and search "flash"  How many different flash player do you have installed?
[23:03] <lstarnes> vaiouser: just reboot
[23:03] <jondavis> just one
[23:03] <vaiouser> i will lose my data
[23:04] <lstarnes> vaiouser: what data?
[23:04] <Neostatic> Is kubuntu 64bit amd the right thing for my intel?
[23:04] <elli222> how do i force a DX9 window in wine to go fullscreen? The game *does* have a working Fullscreen mode, but i think its prone to crashing
[23:04] <lstarnes> Neostatic: kubuntu is the same as ubuntu essentially
[23:04] <hoogland> Flash plays back audio, video is black - only library installed in firefox is libflashplugin.so which I put in  ~/mozilla/plugins/
[23:04] <vaiouser> many articles over 500 tabs in firefox
[23:04] <credobyte> Neostatic: how much RAM do you have ( also, video card ? ) ?
[23:04] <sd32> !pidgin
[23:04] <lstarnes> vaiouser: if you used alt_sysrq+i then you've already lost that data
[23:04] <Neostatic> my ram is 4gb total, the ram on my video card is 512mb
[23:05] <jondavis> i was tould one flash player will work for all thaing's that has websites
[23:05] <vaiouser> i did not use that combination
[23:05] <jondavis> and websits/tv shows
[23:05] <lstarnes> Neostatic: both kubuntu and ubuntu have 32-bit and 64-bit versions
[23:05] <vaiouser> the data is still present in RAM
[23:05] <vaiouser> are*
[23:05] <credobyte> Neostatic: yeah, you should be fine ( more over, 64bit version will allow you to upgrade your RAM without reinstalling ).
[23:05] <lstarnes> vaiouser: "is" would also be appropriate when referring to computer data
[23:05] <Rapt0rJezuz> Hello, World/
[23:06] <edbian> jondavis: Yeah.  That is correct.  Here is the issue:  The open source flash player will only work on some flash sites (don't ask me why).  The closed source one works everywhere (adobe flash 10).  But if you have more than 1 installed they block each other out and it is difficult to tell what flash player you're actually using.
[23:06] <lstarnes> vaiouser: you did use alt+sysrq+i, right?
[23:06] <cliffbreaker> hi everyone. really need help. it's urgent. have winxp dualbooted and it won't load leaving me with grub entry for winxp on blank black screen. Can anyone help me please? It's very urgent!!!!
[23:06] <Neostatic> Can i install kubuntu from cd on windows vista?
[23:06] <vaiouser> no
[23:06] <credobyte> Neostatic: Wubi ?
[23:06] <vaiouser> only print register info and other combinations
[23:06] <Neostatic> whaat?
[23:07] <lstarnes> Neostatic: you can install it in the same way you installed ubuntu
[23:07] <lstarnes> *install
[23:07] <Neostatic> I havenot installed anything yet ... do i need to install ubuntu before kubuntu?
[23:07] <vaiouser> but nothing that is related to the filesystems and other combinations that might lead to loss of data
[23:07] <mido1> cliff: We'll need some more details.
[23:07] <Neostatic> i have not used kubuntu i am new to this, i have always used windows before
[23:07] <credobyte> Neostatic: Kubuntu = KDE, Ubuntu = Gnome !
[23:07] <Neostatic> i need help
[23:07] <lstarnes> Neostatic: no.
[23:07] <lstarnes> Neostatic: you can install kubuntu without having installed ubuntu
[23:07] <cliffbreaker> mido1: ok, tell me what kind of details you will need
[23:08] <Neostatic> lstarnes: okey
[23:08] <prince_jammys> Neostatic: kubuntu is just ubuntu with the KDE desktop instead of gnome.
[23:08] <Neostatic> prince_jammys: ok
[23:08] <prince_jammys> and some different apps come installed
[23:08] <lstarnes> vaiouser: I'm somewhat confused.  What exactly are you asking about?
[23:08] <Rapt0rJezuz> What is the difference between KDE and Gnome?
[23:08] <rreyes_> Hi all... I am having problems with a Logitech USB speakers model S-00041. When used, they produce a "click-like" sound several times a second. Any idea what could be wrong?
[23:08] <lstarnes> Rapt0rJezuz: they're different desktop environments
[23:08] <mido1> cliff: let me guess, windows was the only system on the disk, occupying it totally, then you installed ubuntu and let it resize the partition. correct?
[23:08] <prince_jammys> Rapt0rJezuz: different default applications, different look and feel.
[23:08] <VCoolio_> Neostatic: if you install kubuntu the installer will make some partitions for it and then on boot you'll have a menu (grub) to choose vista or kubuntu
[23:08] <Neostatic> Who is willing to guide me through installation of kubuntu 9.04
[23:09] <credobyte> Rapt0rJezuz: Wiki or Google images ;)
[23:09] <vaiouser> i want to recover from a state which shows kernel messages only
[23:09] <pixelmonkey> I am trying to play a DVD and I get the error "An error occurred: Could not open location; you might not have permission to open file."
[23:09] <pixelmonkey> any ideas?
[23:09] <lstarnes> vaiouser: which key combo did you use to thert that
[23:09] <credobyte> Neostatic: feel free to pm me at any time ;)
[23:09] <lstarnes> vaiouser: *enter
[23:09] <cliffbreaker> mido1: no, winxp occupied 30 GB and worked well, after that i repartitioned all space except winxp partition and it stopped booting although I can boot in linux
[23:09] <Keiffer> Hi. how can I install a screenlet for ubuntu in slax?
[23:09] <vaiouser> i used init 1
[23:10] <lstarnes> vaiouser: does it display a login prompt of any sort?
[23:10] <vaiouser> no
[23:10] <VCoolio_> Neostatic: it's dead easy, just the partitioning question may be questionable
[23:10] <vaiouser> it shows kernel messages only
[23:10] <lstarnes> vaiouser: does it say anything about a kernel panic or an oops error?
[23:10] <vaiouser> no
[23:11] <aftertaf> brunner: http://www.pastebin.org/4220 a quick guide ;)
[23:11] <sman> hey I can't press up cursor in urxvt
[23:11] <elli222> Please someone tell me how to FORCE fullscreen for this game :/
[23:11] <lstarnes> vaiouser: what happens when you press enter?
[23:11] <vaiouser> let me see
[23:11] <sman> it affects everything run in urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode)
[23:12] <Keiffer> Hi. how can I install a screenlet for ubuntu in slax?
[23:12] <aftertaf> brunner: but u must have booted from another device, you cant backup  a mounted partition
[23:12] <sd32> !wine
[23:12] <mido1> cliff: Hm, it's not really clear to me how you did install or how you did partition your disk. However, do you have a bootable xp cd?
[23:12] <vaiouser> it shows unknown key once and after that nothing
[23:12] <prince_jammys> sman: pressing up doesn't show you the previous command in your history?
[23:13] <bastidrazor> Keiffer, grab the source and compile
[23:13] <sman> prince_jammys: no
[23:13] <vaiouser> if you press again enter
[23:13] <sman> prince_jammys: it doesn't do anything
[23:13] <Keiffer> pl
[23:13] <vaiouser> enter again*
[23:13] <cliffbreaker> mido1: yes I do
[23:13] <sman> prince_jammys: it works in tty however, but I have now realised that any graphical terminal emulator has the flaw
[23:13] <aftertaf> anyone xexpain how i made it that X server is now on ALT-F1 and not F7 ??
[23:13] <lstarnes> vaiouser: did you just use init 1?
[23:14] <mido1> cliff: If it is an option to loose grub for a moment and reinstall it later when windows is back again, I would suggest booting the windows xp install cd, use the rescue mode and restore the bootsector/mbr with "fixboot" and "fixmbr".
[23:14] <vaiouser> yes
[23:14] <the8thbit> Hello
[23:14] <mido1> cliff: Seems to me the fastest solution to boot windows.
[23:14] <rreyes_> Hi all... I am having problems with a Logitech USB speakers model S-00041. When used, they produce a "click-like" sound several times a second. Any idea what could be wrong?
[23:14] <cliffbreaker> mido1: what other options can I use?
[23:15] <vaiouser> init 1 and it stopped in a state where it shows the kernel messages
[23:15] <the8thbit> Is the issue with Intel GPUs in Ubuntu 9.04 fixed yet, or should I wait for Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:15] <loois> is there a faster lightweight login manager that is able to autologin into gnome?
[23:15] <lstarnes> vaiouser: I think changing runlevels to runlevel 1 via init 1 would kill any processes started in the previous runlevel
[23:15] <mido1> cliff: next option is just to fix the bootsector of xp, by again booting from the xp install cd and then use only "fixboot" but not "fixmbr".
[23:15] <sman> prince_jammys: any ideas?
[23:16] <sman> prince_jammys: it works in tty, so I'm guessing it's something to do with xorg
[23:16] <ArchEnigma> Does anyone here have any experience with Sawfish WM? I can't figure out how to set my theme.
[23:16] <vaiouser> yes but the data is still present
[23:16] <mido1> cliff: After that, if grub still can't boot windows, you'd have to see after the grub config and correct it.
[23:16] <the8thbit> Is the issue with Intel GPUs in Ubuntu 9.04 fixed yet, or should I wait for Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:16] <cliffbreaker> mido1: and can I do smth about it from linux? i have correct entry in menu.lst
[23:17] <ArchEnigma> the8thbit: It's fixed, You just have to update the drivers after you install.
[23:17] <AlexPalmer> I was wondering the same thing as the8thbit.  when I updated from the 9.04 beta to 9.04 release i lost compiz
[23:17] <loois> intel performance has boosted for me usng Karmic
[23:17] <prince_jammys> sman: perhaps it has to do with locale variables
[23:17] <vaiouser> the sessionrestore file is still there
[23:17] <mido1> cliffbreaker: just a moment...
[23:17] <sman> prince_jammys: well that's what I thought but it would affect tty if so
[23:17] <vaiouser> that is the only file i need to restore the tabs in firefox
[23:17] <sd32> !sawfish
[23:18] <xtremegamer> is there a tool for ubuntu that allows you to export and import a contact list of your cellphone with bleutooth ?
[23:18] <AlexPalmer> ArchEnigma: How do you update the drivers after install.  a simple "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install upgrade"?
[23:18] <mido1> cliffbreaker: In the section for booting windows xp in your menu.lst, what is the line starting with "root" or "rootnoverify"?
[23:18] <aftertaf> xtremegamer: gammu ?
[23:18] <aftertaf> !bluetooth
[23:18] <prince_jammys> sman: try invoking urxvt like this:  LC_ALL=$LANG urxvt
[23:18] <the8thbit> A couple more questions, these ones may seem a little stranger and open ended... First, what advantages does Ubuntu hold over Linux Mint? Second, what advantages does Gnome hold over KDE and vise versa?
[23:18] <Aenigma> So no help on the Sawfish then?
[23:19] <mido1> xtremegamer: Yes, I prefer SyncML, on newer cells SynCE is a good solution.
[23:19] <sd32> Aenigma, http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Contents
[23:19] <sman> prince_jammys: ooh, whenever I press up the command "lpr" is run
[23:19] <xtremegamer> ow ok ill look into them , any other applications ?
[23:19] <sman> prince_jammys: thats linux print right?
[23:19] <prince_jammys> sman: yes
[23:19] <sman> prince_jammys: I don't even have it installed..
[23:19] <prince_jammys> bizarre
[23:19] <vaiouser> lstarnes: the data is there i just have to copy and then i can reboot
[23:19] <sman> prince_jammys: mind if I PM you?
[23:20] <prince_jammys> sman: ok
[23:20] <cliffbreaker> mido1: rootnoverify
[23:20] <mido1> xtremegamer: For some older Nokias Gnokii
[23:20] <lstarnes> vaiouser: I don't know if you can copy it in your current state
[23:20] <hoogland> Can someone help with flash issue on Jaunty 64-bit - no other flash dependencies installed just libflashplugin.so in ~/mozilla/plugins - get weird playback of video, sometimes black screen, sometimes fast-forward, jerky. audio works fine.
[23:20] <vaiouser> i use a livecd distribution that is why i want to avoid the reboot
[23:20] <mido1> cliffbreaker: That's all, nothing behind "rootnoverify"?
[23:20] <the8thbit> Thanks. A couple more questions, these ones may seem a little stranger and open ended... First, what advantages does Ubuntu hold over Linux Mint? Second, what advantages does Gnome hold over KDE and vise versa?
[23:21] <cliffbreaker> mido1: also (hd0,0) in this line
[23:21] <xtremegamer> its for a new Nokia 6**** something and a samsung SGH-M610
[23:21] <Trueno> Ubuntu is the best!
[23:21] <VCoolio_> the8thbit: these questions easily end up in useless debates between fans of one or the other; that's why they are considered offtopic; also what is best depends on what you need
[23:21] <mido1> cliffbreaker: Ah, that's very important :-)
[23:21] <aftertaf> the8thbit: too open ended.... 2nd question is one of prefernce, 1st is one of difference, not betterness
[23:21] <mido1> cliff: Okay, where is your windows partition located? Is it the first partition on your first harddisk, aka /dev/sda1?
[23:21] <EDinNY> The best distro is one you can get help with.  preferably locally
[23:22] <mido1> xtremegamer: Then forget about Gnokii.
[23:22] <cliffbreaker> mido1: yes, you're right
[23:22] <the8thbit> VCoolio, aftertaf: Alright. I'm just split between Mint and Ubuntu, and Gnome and KDE.
[23:22] <mido1> xtremegamer: Is the samsung a Windows-CE smartphone or something?
[23:22] <aftertaf> the8thbit: then dualboot and have both installed ;)
[23:22] <mido1> cliffbreaker: Hmmm, then the entry seems to be okay.
[23:23] <the8thbit> I guess a better question is, why do you all use Ubuntu instead of a different distro? (assuming you use Ubuntu primarily)
[23:23] <th0r> aftertaf: or install virtualbox and run both in windows on the same desktop
[23:23] <cliffbreaker> mido1: sure it's ok
[23:23] <mido1> cliff: Looks like there is no (working) bootloader in the bootsektor.
[23:23] <cliffbreaker> mido1: ok, what can I do about it without demolishing grub?
[23:23] <th0r> aftertaf: that was supposed to be xfce windows...not 'the dark side' windows
[23:23] <aftertaf> the8thbit: ease of use, community support
[23:24] <mido1> cliffbreaker: I would suggest booting the install cd, using rescue mode, and then write a new bootsector via "fixboot" as next step
[23:24] <aftertaf> th0r: i prefer ;)
[23:24] <Trueno> Anyone can help me? I want to update my Ubuntu but in offline mode. Can I download the files in a windows pc and then update ubuntu?
[23:24] <l3dx> hmm. what's up with the fonts in firefox-3.5?
[23:24] <mido1> cliffbreaker: Then grub should be able to boot windows again.
[23:24] <mzz> l3dx: possibly https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458612
[23:25] <gobucks09> VCoolio: join/part plugin works! Thanks.
[23:25] <solexious> My laptop wont play dvd's I get the error "Could not open location; you might not have permission to pen the file"
[23:25] <cliffbreaker> mido1: well, not sure how to do it
[23:25] <VCoolio_> gobucks09: nice, good news
[23:25] <mido1> Trueno: AFAIK not that really easy. Could you e.g. boot Ubuntu from CD/DVD on that computer with internet connection?
[23:26] <mido1> cliffbreaker: Just boot from your windows install cd.
[23:26] <mido1> cliffbreaker: on the big blue screen, you're asked if you would like to install, or enter rescue mode.
[23:26] <aftertaf> Trueno: or copy them all into /var/cache/apt/archives/ then apt-get install them
[23:26] <mido1> cliff: Then enter "r" for rescue, and you get a commandline.
[23:27] <mido1> cliff: You'll be prompted to select your windows xp installation (there should be only one) and to enter your admin password.
[23:27] <mido1> cliff: after that, you're on the commandline and can call "fixboot". I'm not sure if you need a parameter, but if so, try "fixboot c:", if C: is your windows drive.
[23:27] <l3dx> mzz: perhaps
[23:27] <xtremegamer> thank aftertaf :) works like a charm on my samsung :)
[23:28] <aftertaf> :)) cool
[23:28] <l3dx> mzz: but different font on mine
[23:28] <cliffbreaker> mido1: will I have to reinstall grub?
[23:28] <mido1> cliff: Then reboot and try the grub entry.
[23:28] <xtremegamer> LOL xD
[23:28] <Trueno> mido1. Yes, but If I boot with the live cd, ¿What is get?
[23:29] <xtremegamer> wammu reads memory card for contacts , phone reboots lol
[23:29] <vaiouser> thank you for trying to help lstarnes
[23:29]  * credobyte is away: Gone away for now
[23:29]  * credobyte is back.
[23:30] <Leoneof> i want to download and installed GTK+ via terminal, how?
[23:30] <xtremegamer> aftertaf , is there some possible i could use my phone as a "headset" for skype ?
[23:30] <lstarnes> Leoneof: it should already be installed
[23:31] <mido1> Trueno: there is an option for apt so it will just get all updates, but not install them. You'll find the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives. Copy them to an USB stick or so, put it into the other PC and let run apt-get there.
[23:31] <gobucks09> xtremegamer:  sorry for jumping in.  You need to get an adapter that does audio to POTS.  There's a device called b2k that is a USB sound card and handles the phone interface too.
[23:32] <gobucks09> xtremegamer: hang on & I'll get you a link.
[23:32] <Cyber_Akuma-SUSE> Hi, is it possible to use a Xubuntu LiveCD to backup another distro's intstall into an image file?
[23:32] <xtremegamer> gobucks89 , it cant be achieved software wise ?
[23:32] <Trueno> Thank you mido1! I'll try this.
[23:33] <gobucks09> not that I know of.
[23:33] <Leoneof> lstarnes: i need to download latest version, possible?
[23:33] <mido1> Trueno: The commands on the live system should be "apt-get update; apt-get -d upgrade"
[23:34] <mido1> Trueno: But it's only written from memory.
[23:34] <gobucks09> Here's what I use:  http://kb2kskype.sourceforge.net/
[23:34] <casey> I nned some help I want to make a program start at start up and i made the sritp for it and put it in /etc/init.d now what cooan do i do so it will work
[23:34] <rootlinuxusr> How can i force eject a drive? getting this error "org.freedekstop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure';eject: unable to find or open device for: /media/cdrom0"
[23:34] <casey> #command
[23:35] <mido1> Trueno: On your offline-PC the command should be "apt-get --no-download upgrade" after you copied all the files to /var/cache/apt/archives.
[23:35] <casey> *command
[23:36] <mezquitale> casey,  what do you so that "it will work"?  You want to check if it will actually does what it's supposed to do or if it's runing at all?
[23:36] <Galaxor> How does ubuntu give me such good unicode fonts in gnome-terminal?  I checked, and the font it uses is "Monospace".  I've got another, non-ubuntu distro over here, and the font is also set to Monospace in gnome-terminal, and I do not get any non-english characters.
[23:36] <Trueno> ok mido. I'll try this and I tell you
[23:36] <mezquitale> casey, i meant to ask... what do you mean that "it will work" LoL
[23:36] <mido1> root: There is no real force, AFAIK. Just try the commandline: eject /dev/cdrom
[23:36] <Taft> Hi! I need help installing themes from gnome-look.org. I've downloaded the tar.gz and put it in /home/username/.themes/ then went to Menu>Pref>Apperance and chose "install" on theme. When I click the file it says "invalid theme"
[23:37] <casey> i made the scirp and puted it in /etc/init.d will it work or do i need to do something elas
[23:37] <Galaxor> Is "monospace" the name of a particular ttf font?  Or is it some sort of virtual name, and if I have a bunch of other-language fonts there, it'll search till it finds the character or something?
[23:37] <mezquitale> can anyone recommend a site that offers free hosting for your web site and that hopefully has little to no advertising in your page?
[23:37] <DanYoSon> www.000webhost.com no ads free
[23:37] <VCoolio> Taft: probably incomplete, just extract there manually
[23:37] <mezquitale> DanYoSon, thanks, ill go take a look at it right now
[23:37] <mido1> casey: You need symlinks in the runlevel directories as well.
[23:38] <xtremegamer> byethost also good :)
[23:38] <VCoolio> Taft: that's the same as 'installing' would do, then check for your theme with the 'customize' button
[23:38] <casey> so how i do that
[23:38] <DanYoSon> also has php, mysql etc.
[23:38] <mido1> casey: First you have to decide in which runlevels you init script should be started.
[23:39] <casey> well i guss at logiom
[23:39] <mido1> casey: (or pseudo-runlevels in ubuntu, where we have upstart)
[23:39] <bazhang> DanYoSon, dont advertise here
[23:39] <rootlinuxusr> If 'eject /dev/cdrom' also doesn't work, another other means?
[23:39] <eric> I'm looking for the  best way to set up a shared directory for all users on a system.
[23:39] <Taft> Vcoolio I cannot find my theme in "customize"
[23:39] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: What was the error message with eject?
[23:39] <DanYoSon> im not someone asked about a web hosting site
[23:39] <rootlinuxusr>  "org.freedekstop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure';eject: unable to find or open device for: /media/cdrom0"
[23:39] <VCoolio> Taft: what kind of theme (gtk2?) and what's in the folder?
[23:39] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: Ah, the same.
[23:40] <th0r> casey: did you read that page I sent you? Did you use the skeleton to write your script or is it a simple bash script?
[23:40] <unforgiven512> Can someone help me with my USB headset?
[23:40] <rootlinuxusr> Oh when I ran eject? made some noise, exited with no error message, no eject either ...
[23:40] <VCoolio> Taft: give me a link for the theme on gnome-look, I'll check
[23:40] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: Ah, so no message at all when running eject?
[23:40] <rootlinuxusr> nope
[23:41] <Taft> VCoolio http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/zni3?content=104418
[23:41] <rootlinuxusr> just returns to prompt
[23:41] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: That's good (when Linux doesn't say anything, it normally did what you commanded)
[23:41] <casey> i copyed the script that it told me to use for the program
[23:41] <VCoolio> Taft: that's a gnomenu theme, install gnomenu first (if you want it), it's on gnome-look too
[23:41] <rootlinuxusr> or tried to anyway.
[23:41] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: According to "mount", is the CD drive still mounted anywhere?
[23:41] <th0r> casey: what told you to use?
[23:42] <Taft> Thanks VCoolio
[23:42] <VCoolio> Taft: in the .themes folder you only have gtk2 themes and metacity (window border) themes
[23:42] <Lostin> I need to know how to find my default iso-8859 .  I looked in dmesg thinking it might be set at boot, but no luck there.
[23:42] <mido1> th0r: Do you know hat he's trying to do?
[23:42] <rootlinuxusr> Not mounted anywhere.
[23:42] <casey> the install gield for the program
[23:43] <Taft> VCoolio so I should just have this one in my Desktop?
[23:43] <th0r> mido1: he is trying to run a script, but I can't get him to even commit on whether he wants it to start at bootup or at login. If he wants to put it in /etc/init.d he has to use update-rc.d, which means he has to use the initscript skeleton
[23:43] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: Last chance I see: logoff from the graphical desktop, then switch to a text console, log in, and then retry eject.
[23:43] <VCoolio> Taft: yeah, and then use gnomenu to point to it
[23:43] <Taft> ok
[23:43] <mido1> th0r: Thanks.
[23:43] <casey> i guess bootup
[23:44] <VCoolio> Taft: also after installing / extracting you can delete the tar.gz
[23:44] <th0r> mido1: I sent him a url that explained the runlevels and init scripts, but I doubt he read it.
[23:44] <mido1> casey: Sometimes it's no help to tell the people a solution to a specific problem, but to show them a different approach.
[23:45] <jondavis> there is this guy who just tryd tohelp me but no luck
[23:45] <Ilija> Hello
[23:45] <mido1> casey: So, what are you trying to do? What programm should be started, for which purpose?
[23:45] <bonez46> how do I lauch a gui app, eg. gtkam 'as root'?
[23:45] <casey> its dns clint
[23:45] <VCoolio> bonez46: gksudo app
[23:45] <sebsebseb> !hi  |  Ilija
[23:46] <rootlinuxusr> login as root/sudo type command
[23:46] <Ilija> I am a new user, and have installed ubuntu just yesterday
[23:46] <bonez46> rootlinuxusr: this is a gui app, launched from an icon
[23:46] <muibe> what should i type into /etc/fstab so that every usb that's mounted would be just read-only?
[23:46] <casey> sorry what did yuo say
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Ilija: ok good, and what would  you like help with?
[23:47] <rootlinuxusr> sudo gkcam ?
[23:47] <VCoolio> bonez46: use gksudo
[23:47] <mido1> rootlinuxusr: Sorry, crowdy here ;-) You managed to switch to a text console? If you haven't set a root password, you'll have to log in as normal user and then use "sudo su -".
[23:47] <Ilija> unfortunately i need vpn for my internet connection
[23:47] <Ilija> but the "add" field is greyed out :)
[23:47] <sebsebseb> !vpn
[23:47] <mido1> casey: Okay, you want to start a DNS Client? Which one?
[23:47] <Andy80> hi all
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Ilija:  I can't help with that
[23:48] <sebsebseb> Andy80: hello
[23:48] <Ilija> thanks anyway :)
[23:48] <casey> no ip
[23:48] <casey> i got the script that it tode me to use
[23:48] <jondavis> i have adobeplungin-nonfree install but i cannot watch flash videos on nbc and cbs
[23:49] <Andy80> I'm using Ubuntu Jaunty and I've this videocard: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (it's an EeePC 901), how can I enable hardware 3D acceleration? Currently I've only this: OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[23:49] <jondavis> can a good real person help me out
[23:49] <Ilija> what i really need i guess is a quick how-to on installing packages without the internet connection
[23:49] <th0r> mido1: he can't run that at bootup....network manager won't connect until he logs in
[23:49] <jondavis> hello
[23:49] <rootlinuxusr> If you have the package you can install by double clicking or by command line - dpkg -i package.deb
[23:50] <jondavis> i just tould yall what i need help on
[23:50] <mido1> th0r: You're right.
[23:50] <Lostin> jondavis go to ubuntu forums and look under sound and video
[23:51] <th0r> mido1: and he can't run it at login...nm hasn't had time yet
[23:51] <jondavis> \why dont you just plese help me out
[23:51] <Lostin> there is a great tutorial there
[23:51] <jondavis> i have time to read a lot ok
[23:51] <Ilija> i have tried burning the packages from packages.ubuntu.com/ on CD, and then adding the CD from synaptic package manager
[23:51] <Ilija> but it doesn't recognize any packages i have burned
[23:51] <mezquitale> anyone here host their server in their ubuntu fox at home?  If you redirect port 80 to another port, how will users reach your site?  Do they need to specify the port?
[23:51] <ctmjr> !intel | Andy80
[23:52] <Lostin> jondavis It's a long explain, the tut has several downloass
[23:52] <mido1> th0r: Maybe his solution is to configure DHCP or a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces instead using nm. Let's see...
[23:52] <q0_0p> what is the lastest kernel for ubuntu 9.04?
[23:52] <jondavis> i dont want to fuck up my os ok
[23:52] <AlexPalmer> jondavis: I don't believe cbs or nbc currently support Linux.  they have their own plugin
[23:52] <bazhang> jondavis, watch the language
[23:52] <jondavis> then help me
[23:52] <mezquitale> !cursing
[23:52] <jondavis> find a way
[23:52] <mrwes> hrmm
[23:53] <mrwes> that'll get everyone to help ya
[23:53] <bazhang> jondavis, please be patient
[23:53] <th0r> mido1: yeah...he will have to use interfaces instead of nm..although the static ip isn't really necessary. Unless he is working through a wifi hub or router
[23:53] <jondavis> i dont have time
[23:53] <AlexPalmer> jondavis: who's going to help you when talk to people likethat
[23:53] <rootlinuxusr> Try installing other flash packages?
[23:53] <th0r> is there a full moon out tonight?
[23:53] <Lostin> jondavis, first off you o/s is already not doing what you wan..2nd this tut will definitly fix you up
[23:53] <bazhang> jondavis, please provide a link, I will try it
[23:54] <trollboy> Asked yesterday, didn't get a response.  Gunna try again today.. having a weird driver issue, linux sees it, the driver is there, BUT http://pastebin.com/m5703d5f5  its for a GSM modem, its using a Texas Instruments USB -> TTY chip in it.
[23:54] <jondavis> cbs.com
[23:54] <sman> how do I set my keyboard layout in xorg.conf? I've read the wiki, XKbdLayout doesn't work
[23:54] <jondavis> www.cbs.com
[23:54] <jondavis> ww.nbc.com
[23:54] <Andy80> ctmjr: I've already read both pages, but it doesn't help me. They talk about poor performances, but n my case hardware acceleration is not enabled at all!
[23:54] <jondavis> hulu.com
[23:55] <yaaar> howdy
[23:55] <Lostin> jondavis and lastly, cursing at folks you want to help you is  very counyerproductive
[23:55] <bazhang> jondavis, cbs works here; hulu not so as that is for US-only residents
[23:56] <nkvorn> mezquitale, site.com:8000 (if 8000 the port)
[23:56] <bazhang> jondavis, which plugins do you have installed and from where
[23:56] <Ilija> could someone please try to help me?
[23:56] <mrwes> !ask | Ilija
[23:56] <jondavis> i jus tould yall
[23:56] <jondavis> \flash
[23:57] <IndyStefan1> I need a little guidance on networking - just want to peer-to-peer 2 Ubuntu pcs via my dLink router.  Tried Samba - doesn't look like the answer.  I also internet via that router
[23:57] <bazhang> jondavis, I did not see it; flash installed from where and which version
[23:57] <Lostin> jondavis in the tut I spoke of, you can do the whole thing in about 15 minutes.  I used it, and I can do anything online..you-tube whatever
[23:57] <Cyber_Akuma_> hi
[23:57] <mrwes> IndyStefan1, use nfs via two ubuntu computers
[23:57] <th0r> Ilija: you have to use gdebi to install those packages
[23:57] <bazhang> !nfs
[23:57] <mrwes> thanks bazhang
[23:57] <mrwes> :)
[23:57] <vr_mex> Ok now i need some help with img_assist i have this and need to put a link into this image so that it opens thepdf [img_assist|nid=368|title=|desc=|align=left|width=220|height=165] the link to the pdf is: http://www.construidea.com/sites/default/files/Catalogo_Monolitico.pdf now how do i insert this url into img_assist code??
[23:58] <trollboy> jondavis, stop msg'ing without permission
[23:58] <th0r> Ilija: open nautilus to the CD, right click on a package, and choose open with gdebi
[23:58] <Cyber_Akuma-Ubun> .... good enough
[23:58] <Ilija> i will try that, thank you
[23:58] <mido1> th0r: I did find out. It's a dnamic dns update client he wants to run.
[23:58] <IndyStefan1> nfs - I'll give it a look - Thanks
[23:58] <Lostin> I need to know how to find my default iso-8859 .  I looked in dmesg thinking it might be set at boot, but no luck there.
[23:58] <Cyber_Akuma-Ubun> I have the third party repos enabled, im trying to install partimage, but it says not found
[23:58] <ctmjr> Andy80: have you enabled anything in your xorg.conf file?
[23:58] <VCoolio> Ilija: th0r: use /usr/bin/gdebi-gtk or you'll see nothing showing up...
[23:59] <muibe> so there's no answer to my question? or then my question was so astoundingly stupid that no one really stoops to say a word about it...
[23:59] <th0r> mido1: right...I am familiar with it. But it won't work at bootup unless he sets an extremely rapid update frequency
[23:59] <Andy80> ctmjr: not by hand... why? Do I have to enable something?
[23:59] <bazhang> jondavis, someone has provided you with a tutorial, why not take a look, or at the very least give some complete answers to the question you ask
[23:59] <mido1> th0r: Yes, the init script is just the wrong place.
[23:59] <jondavis> i got flash install but it is not working