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th0rthey certainly don't make it easy to file a bug00:01
knomewhat's wrong?00:02
vinnl!bugs00:02
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots00:02
th0ryeah...I am in launchpad...after trying ubuntu-bug and apport <smile>. Finally where I need to be (I think)00:04
vinnlYeah when I started reporting I had a hard time understanding that Launchpad was for more than Ubuntu. And that you need to report it against Ubuntu, and to a specific package00:05
th0ryeah, not a problem but it would be easier if they just said 'Run these commands and paste the output here'00:14
th0rand now that I have clicked on Submit it is just sitting there loading <smile>00:15
th0rmaybe I need to file a bug about the bug reporting system <smile>00:15
vinnlWell there is the possibility, Launchpad is a Launchpadproject as well :P00:16
th0rfirefox says it is waiting on launchpad.net....so.....00:16
th0rbeen a little disappointed in jaunty...too many of these sort of 'rough edges'00:17
vinnlYeah well, xfmedia is basically dead00:17
th0rvinnl: I'm not really concerned about xfmedia...use audacious and it works fine for me. But if it is dead take it out of the repos then it won't be an issue00:18
th0rthe latest kernel update killed my internal wifi card...which worked out of the box at install.00:19
vinnlYeah but still, it's in universe, and if nobody uses it nobody reports bugs ;)00:19
vinnlHmm yeah that sucks00:19
th0rand my external wifi, an atheros chip that should be supported, wouldn't work...had to revert to ndiswrapper to use it.00:20
th0rjust too many little headaches like these00:20
zessscan anyone help me get my display working on my ibm thinkpad laptop just finished install and screen will not come on01:09
zesssi can enter my user name and password computer still boots i think its using a wrong driverf01:10
zessscant see nothing01:10
zessswow no one alive in here01:12
zesssCan anyone help me get xubuntu runnin on my laptop01:19
zessshow can i remove my display driver and install a older version01:31
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DJNomadhey all I need guidance ,I am helping a friend install xubuntu alongside with vista03:33
DJNomadhe has no disks so I have him installing daemon tools right now03:33
artistxeholy &h*t !   OpenShot installer has been building/configuring for last 25 minutes !03:34
* artistxe just wanted to check it out . . . 03:34
artistxe hmmm . watch it not work03:35
artistxeDJNomad, just curious. he NEEDS to keep Vista ?03:36
DJNomadhe wants to keep it03:36
DJNomadhe is a new convert03:36
DJNomadI dunno he says he cant find where the xubuntu image went or the daemon tools lol03:37
artistxeread slashdot article referring to it as Microsoft's worst mistake . but anyway03:37
DJNomadthink he is playing dumb cause he is scared but that isn't his way so prolly not03:37
DJNomadI have tried xubuntu off and on for 2 years and finally i understand it03:38
artistxeto be honest . I installed from booting disk03:38
DJNomadhe found it03:38
DJNomadartistxe,  yeah me too but you can mount the image in windoz and install from inside it03:39
artistxeI promote it :D03:39
artistxeoh. hmm. have not a clue on that one. you can mount as in a virtual disk ?03:39
DJNomadyes artistxe03:40
DJNomadi think ubuntu uses wubi or something like that to install inside doz03:40
artistxeoooh. wubi install is not a great idea.03:40
artistxeruns much faster as permaneent install03:41
DJNomadartistxe,  thats only option for him with no disk03:41
DJNomadwubi is permanant install03:41
artistxeprobably true. then again. not sure03:41
DJNomador what i am talking about is fast03:41
artistxeno . not the same thing03:41
DJNomadyou are refering to live cd?03:41
artistxelive cd is also slow03:42
DJNomadvery lol03:42
zessshow can i edit my xorg.conf file when i do its blank in terminal but there and wont alow me to save it in the file system03:43
artistxewill not allow you to save because it does not have permission03:44
artistxesudo gedit . or mousepad ( or whatever editor you use )03:45
zessshow do i give it permision03:46
DJNomadif I install another file manager like nautilus will it slow my pc too much when not browsing files?>03:46
DJNomadI am using only xfce things that came with it thus far03:47
DJNomadzesss the best way i know of is how they said03:47
DJNomadthunar dont have a open as root option03:48
auntieNeoDJNomad: things that you install and don't use won't slow your computer down at all03:48
auntieNeothey will only fill up your hard disk03:48
DJNomadthanks auntieNeo  I like nautilus much better03:48
DJNomadyou can open as root in it03:49
DJNomadand in thunar I had to go through a process for it to automount my 2nd hdd03:49
DJNomadwhats everyones choice filemanager?03:52
artistxeThunar03:52
DJNomadim trying to stay away from memory intense things03:53
DJNomadartistxe,  is there addons for it that are cool?03:53
DJNomadbrb gotta go fer few 30 maybe03:54
artistxehave not found a need for any addons . is fine for my purposes , but then. . .  I like to use terminal03:55
[texas]what's the default archiver for xubuntu?04:42
psycho_oreosfile roller04:44
zessswhats a great program for takin avi files and putting them to dvd04:45
[texas]thanks04:45
zesssand converting them04:45
[texas]zesss, i use handbrake04:47
[texas]oh wait, thats a ripper04:47
[texas]maybe media coder?04:47
zessshandbrake for audio04:51
zesss??04:51
zessscuz im looking for that too04:51
[texas]handbrake is a dvd ripper04:53
anom01ywhat is a good program to use to create flash animations with ?06:06
schpoorky"Preferences" doesn't appear under "System" or "Settings" on the main menu06:57
schpoorkythis is on Xubuntu 9.04 jaunty06:57
schpoorkyThis has me stuck at step 4 of this How-To: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78957807:00
schpoorkyoverall, this is part of diagnosing and fixing a complete lack of audio on the system07:02
schpoorky"aplay -l" reports no sound card while "lspci -v" identifies the onboard Realtek ALC888 as an nVidia MCP67 HD Audio device07:03
schpoorkya Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide on the Ubuntu forums has failed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544907:07
schpoorkyI'm continuing to plug away at it, but lots of plugging has failed07:10
bjanglesI have a thinkpad t20 with 10GB HD/128MB RAM/700MHz PIII, is 128MB RAM enough?07:15
bjanglesit takes about 5 minutes just to load the desktop07:15
bjanglesI'm wondering if it's an incompatibility with the graphics chipset07:16
bjanglesI can't see where to disable desktop effects07:16
bjanglesI installed using the alternate CD for latest 9.10 distro07:16
schpoorkyAfter all this and other troubles, I have to wonder what's so great about Linux07:20
schpoorkyWindows crashed no more often than Xubuntu has07:20
schpoorkyand at least I could find drivers07:21
schpoorkyI thought Linux wasn't going to freeze just because, say, firefox crashed07:23
bjanglesso anyone know if 128mb is not enough for latest xubuntu?07:24
bjangles128mb ram07:24
bjanglesxubuntu recommends 256mb ram but says it will run with 128mb, just how slow will it be with 128?07:38
bjanglesI have a thinkpad t20/PIII 700MHz07:38
bjanglesit takes like 6 minutes to get to the desktop07:38
bjanglesthen everything is really dog slow07:38
bjanglesI'm wondering if it's a hardware issue, maybe with the graphics chipset07:39
bjanglesor if it's just because there's not enough memory07:39
moodogMorning :)08:44
anishHeya10:08
anishGuys10:08
anishI have a really big problem10:08
anishI changed my Windows partition into a Linux Swap and now I cant change it back to NTFS10:08
anishCan anyone help me please?10:08
AraneidaeOops10:09
AraneidaeMy guess is, if you ran your system with that partition as a swap partition, then it's gone for good.10:17
nurbshi everyone!10:54
nurbsive a simple question: why, when i drag&drop a file into a folder on the desktop, this file doest disappear from the desktop?10:55
nurbsdoesnt*10:55
nurbsin other term how could i set the drag&drop to act like a "cut from desktop, paste into folder" ?10:56
nurbsand not "copy from desktop, paste into folder"10:57
nurbsim using jaunty jackalope xubuntu10:57
nurbsty in advance for your hints10:58
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TheSheepnurbs: hold down ctrl key11:23
nurbsTheSheep, thanks a lot!11:26
nurbshm11:28
nurbsTheSheep, its shift key11:28
nurbsbut anyway ty, did not know it was such a simple manip11:28
dewcan anyone guid me in installing xubuntu with virtual michine on existing xp sys.11:30
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dew hey just installed vmware player. How do i install ubuntu 9.04?12:30
slow-motionhi12:48
dewhey how do i install xubuntu with vmware server?13:23
dewpm plz13:23
knomedew, if you need help installing an os in vmware server, you should ask #vmware13:24
dewk13:24
dewty13:24
slow-motionbye13:47
viddhow do i create an auto-started application in 9.04?14:08
vinnlvidd, there should be an application for that in the settings manager14:08
vinnlI believe xfce4-autostart-editor14:09
knomevidd, "Session and startup"14:09
vinnlOh >.<14:09
vinnlSo much for my memory14:09
viddno..not in 9.0414:09
viddit was there in 8.1014:09
knomevidd, yes..yes in 9.04.14:10
viddthere it is14:10
viddits been moved14:10
viddy'all need to quit hiding stuff =]14:10
knomeyou need to get new eyeglasses14:11
viddin the past there was an entry on the menu system for autostart applications14:11
knomeyes there was.14:12
vidd(i started from dapper and dist-upgraded ever since, so i dont recall when)14:12
viddand i did a clean install and it was gone14:12
viddany chance we can get that back?14:13
knomewhy should we?14:13
knomei think its current place is justified14:14
knomeand logical14:14
viddwell there's all the yammering about we have to add this crapp and that crap for "ease of use"14:14
vinnlvidd, you can create a .desktop file yourself14:14
viddim sure if i knew how i would14:15
vinnlvidd, just copy an existing file, and edit the command and the name sections, I'm sure you can figure it out14:15
viddbut the "ease of use" vs. "keep it lightweight" sides with "ease of use"14:16
vinnlWhat's this got to do with keeping it lightweight?14:16
viddthis isnt the place for this discussion14:17
viddthank you for the answer14:17
vinnl:)14:17
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PoisonSerpentDo you guys' know what Invalid ROM Contents and SelfID recieved outside of bus sequence mean?16:42
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anonmatirguys! if i download xubuntu 9.04 and burn it.. will i be able to empty the NTFS voulme, and then load xubuntu ther?18:39
vinnlanonmatir, I think you can also empty the NTFS volume from the LiveCD and then install Xubuntu there18:40
anonmatirXubuntu live ?18:40
vinnl!livecd18:40
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.18:40
anonmatir Ubuntu Desktop CD is both live and installable ?18:41
anonmatirhmm18:41
vinnlYeah18:41
vinnlAnd so is the Xubuntu Desktop CD :)18:41
anonmatirhmm.  i have a amd semopro 2800+ with 256mb ddr1.. what would u suggest .. xubuntu or normal ?18:42
vinnlIf you mean Ubuntu by normal, then not that18:42
anonmatirhehe yeh..18:42
vinnlYou could run Xubuntu but it will be slow, of course18:42
anonmatirslower than xp ?18:42
anonmatiri think i read xubuntu had a requirment of 128mb18:43
vinnlanonmatir, 192MB, see http://xubuntu.org/get#requirements18:43
vinnlNot sure if it would be slower than XP, but I don't think so18:44
vinnlDefinitely not if you also had a virus scan and stuff running in XP18:44
anonmatirthats a duifferent thing.. hmm .. thanx dude..18:45
vinnlyw :)18:45
jimisrvroxhey guys im having probs getting an access point in 9.04 have a rt2500 card would appreciate some help21:47
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jimisrvroxhey guys I have a rt2500 that is not seeing an access point but I am seeing in iwconfig and ifconfig I would appreciate some help as it was working at one point the other day.22:06
CRMCan I install Xubuntu on a machine with 128 MB RAM, and would I in that case need the Alternate Install CD ?22:43
SiDiCRM: you definately will need the Alternate CD22:50
SiDiAnd it can run, but once it's installed i advise you to disable the update notifier and hardware notifier to gain some RAM (in Apps -> Parameters -> Session & boot)22:51
SiDiAlso, use the 32bit CD and put 500 megs of swap :)22:51
SiDijimisrvrox: its probably just networkmanager having trouble to refresh then22:57
SiDiDid you try to connect to an invisible access point, and to put the SSID of your network in it ?22:58
jimisrvroxtried that..22:58
jimisrvroxAccess Point: not-associated ESSID: ""22:58
jimisrvroxis what I get22:58
SiDijimisrvrox: sorry but i _really_ don't remember how to connect to networks in command line :/22:59
jimisrvroxyeah me neither22:59
CRMWould I be better off with Puppylinux ?22:59
SiDiiwconfig wlan0 essid <yourESSID> mode managed ap 00:03:52:AE:FE:A022:59
SiDijimisrvrox: i think its something like that, and the mac address of the SSID in the end, this should force it to associate23:00
SiDiCRM: i never tried it. If you want a desktop distro that you can use without sacrifying usability then i think Xubuntu is what you need23:00
SiDiCRM: but if you feel its really too heavy then a very very lightweight distro with LXDE / Flux / openbox is what you need23:00
jimisrvroxright SiDi I get that part but ESSID gives me "" instead of my ssid and AP is not-associated23:01
SiDijimisrvrox: i think you need to turn wlan0 down, then type this, then turn it on, and then iwconfig should show it associated23:01
CRMSiDi : Im running Xubuntu here with 850 MHz / 256 MB RAM, but Im not sure if Xubuntu would do well on a system with only 128 MB RAM ?23:02
Cyber_Akuma-SUSEsmall chan23:02
SiDiCRM: our QA manager makes it run on a 128 MB ram machine, so yes it works :) but of course, the weaker the machine, the slower it is.23:02
Cyber_Akuma-SUSESo, I typically use Xubuntu as an emergency/recovery disk.23:03
CRMSiDi : Do I need to change something, or will it just work like normal even if I have only 128 MB RAM?23:03
SiDiCRM: it will work. But as i said above, disabling the daemons and services you dont need will offer you a few extra megs of ram23:03
Cyber_Akuma-SUSEI have an install of OpenSUSE I want to backup, to an image file, not clone it to another partition, is that possible with a Xubuntu livecd?23:03
Cyber_Akuma-SUSEanyone?23:17

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