[00:01] <th0r> they certainly don't make it easy to file a bug
[00:02] <knome> what's wrong?
[00:02] <vinnl> !bugs
[00:04] <th0r> yeah...I am in launchpad...after trying ubuntu-bug and apport <smile>. Finally where I need to be (I think)
[00:05] <vinnl> Yeah when I started reporting I had a hard time understanding that Launchpad was for more than Ubuntu. And that you need to report it against Ubuntu, and to a specific package
[00:14] <th0r> yeah, not a problem but it would be easier if they just said 'Run these commands and paste the output here'
[00:15] <th0r> and now that I have clicked on Submit it is just sitting there loading <smile>
[00:15] <th0r> maybe I need to file a bug about the bug reporting system <smile>
[00:16] <vinnl> Well there is the possibility, Launchpad is a Launchpadproject as well :P
[00:16] <th0r> firefox says it is waiting on launchpad.net....so.....
[00:17] <th0r> been a little disappointed in jaunty...too many of these sort of 'rough edges'
[00:17] <vinnl> Yeah well, xfmedia is basically dead
[00:18] <th0r> vinnl: I'm not really concerned about xfmedia...use audacious and it works fine for me. But if it is dead take it out of the repos then it won't be an issue
[00:19] <th0r> the latest kernel update killed my internal wifi card...which worked out of the box at install.
[00:19] <vinnl> Yeah but still, it's in universe, and if nobody uses it nobody reports bugs ;)
[00:19] <vinnl> Hmm yeah that sucks
[00:20] <th0r> and my external wifi, an atheros chip that should be supported, wouldn't work...had to revert to ndiswrapper to use it.
[00:20] <th0r> just too many little headaches like these
[01:09] <zesss> can anyone help me get my display working on my ibm thinkpad laptop just finished install and screen will not come on
[01:10] <zesss> i can enter my user name and password computer still boots i think its using a wrong driverf
[01:10] <zesss> cant see nothing
[01:12] <zesss> wow no one alive in here
[01:19] <zesss> Can anyone help me get xubuntu runnin on my laptop
[01:31] <zesss> how can i remove my display driver and install a older version
[03:33] <DJNomad> hey all I need guidance ,I am helping a friend install xubuntu alongside with vista
[03:33] <DJNomad> he has no disks so I have him installing daemon tools right now
[03:34] <artistxe> holy &h*t !   OpenShot installer has been building/configuring for last 25 minutes !
[03:34]  * artistxe just wanted to check it out . . . 
[03:35] <artistxe>  hmmm . watch it not work
[03:36] <artistxe> DJNomad, just curious. he NEEDS to keep Vista ?
[03:36] <DJNomad> he wants to keep it
[03:36] <DJNomad> he is a new convert
[03:37] <DJNomad> I dunno he says he cant find where the xubuntu image went or the daemon tools lol
[03:37] <artistxe> read slashdot article referring to it as Microsoft's worst mistake . but anyway
[03:37] <DJNomad> think he is playing dumb cause he is scared but that isn't his way so prolly not
[03:38] <DJNomad> I have tried xubuntu off and on for 2 years and finally i understand it
[03:38] <artistxe> to be honest . I installed from booting disk
[03:38] <DJNomad> he found it
[03:39] <DJNomad> artistxe,  yeah me too but you can mount the image in windoz and install from inside it
[03:39] <artistxe> I promote it :D
[03:39] <artistxe> oh. hmm. have not a clue on that one. you can mount as in a virtual disk ?
[03:40] <DJNomad> yes artistxe
[03:40] <DJNomad> i think ubuntu uses wubi or something like that to install inside doz
[03:40] <artistxe> oooh. wubi install is not a great idea.
[03:41] <artistxe> runs much faster as permaneent install
[03:41] <DJNomad> artistxe,  thats only option for him with no disk
[03:41] <DJNomad> wubi is permanant install
[03:41] <artistxe> probably true. then again. not sure
[03:41] <DJNomad> or what i am talking about is fast
[03:41] <artistxe> no . not the same thing
[03:41] <DJNomad> you are refering to live cd?
[03:42] <artistxe> live cd is also slow
[03:42] <DJNomad> very lol
[03:43] <zesss> how can i edit my xorg.conf file when i do its blank in terminal but there and wont alow me to save it in the file system
[03:44] <artistxe> will not allow you to save because it does not have permission
[03:45] <artistxe> sudo gedit . or mousepad ( or whatever editor you use )
[03:46] <zesss> how do i give it permision
[03:46] <DJNomad> if I install another file manager like nautilus will it slow my pc too much when not browsing files?>
[03:47] <DJNomad> I am using only xfce things that came with it thus far
[03:47] <DJNomad> zesss the best way i know of is how they said
[03:48] <DJNomad> thunar dont have a open as root option
[03:48] <auntieNeo> DJNomad: things that you install and don't use won't slow your computer down at all
[03:48] <auntieNeo> they will only fill up your hard disk
[03:48] <DJNomad> thanks auntieNeo  I like nautilus much better
[03:49] <DJNomad> you can open as root in it
[03:49] <DJNomad> and in thunar I had to go through a process for it to automount my 2nd hdd
[03:52] <DJNomad> whats everyones choice filemanager?
[03:52] <artistxe> Thunar
[03:53] <DJNomad> im trying to stay away from memory intense things
[03:53] <DJNomad> artistxe,  is there addons for it that are cool?
[03:54] <DJNomad> brb gotta go fer few 30 maybe
[03:55] <artistxe> have not found a need for any addons . is fine for my purposes , but then. . .  I like to use terminal
[04:42] <[texas]> what's the default archiver for xubuntu?
[04:44] <psycho_oreos> file roller
[04:45] <zesss> whats a great program for takin avi files and putting them to dvd
[04:45] <[texas]> thanks
[04:45] <zesss> and converting them
[04:47] <[texas]> zesss, i use handbrake
[04:47] <[texas]> oh wait, thats a ripper
[04:47] <[texas]> maybe media coder?
[04:51] <zesss> handbrake for audio
[04:51] <zesss> ??
[04:51] <zesss> cuz im looking for that too
[04:53] <[texas]> handbrake is a dvd ripper
[06:06] <anom01y> what is a good program to use to create flash animations with ?
[06:57] <schpoorky> "Preferences" doesn't appear under "System" or "Settings" on the main menu
[06:57] <schpoorky> this is on Xubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[07:00] <schpoorky> This has me stuck at step 4 of this How-To: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[07:02] <schpoorky> overall, this is part of diagnosing and fixing a complete lack of audio on the system
[07:03] <schpoorky> "aplay -l" reports no sound card while "lspci -v" identifies the onboard Realtek ALC888 as an nVidia MCP67 HD Audio device
[07:07] <schpoorky> a Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide on the Ubuntu forums has failed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:10] <schpoorky> I'm continuing to plug away at it, but lots of plugging has failed
[07:15] <bjangles> I have a thinkpad t20 with 10GB HD/128MB RAM/700MHz PIII, is 128MB RAM enough?
[07:15] <bjangles> it takes about 5 minutes just to load the desktop
[07:16] <bjangles> I'm wondering if it's an incompatibility with the graphics chipset
[07:16] <bjangles> I can't see where to disable desktop effects
[07:16] <bjangles> I installed using the alternate CD for latest 9.10 distro
[07:20] <schpoorky> After all this and other troubles, I have to wonder what's so great about Linux
[07:20] <schpoorky> Windows crashed no more often than Xubuntu has
[07:21] <schpoorky> and at least I could find drivers
[07:23] <schpoorky> I thought Linux wasn't going to freeze just because, say, firefox crashed
[07:24] <bjangles> so anyone know if 128mb is not enough for latest xubuntu?
[07:24] <bjangles> 128mb ram
[07:38] <bjangles> xubuntu recommends 256mb ram but says it will run with 128mb, just how slow will it be with 128?
[07:38] <bjangles> I have a thinkpad t20/PIII 700MHz
[07:38] <bjangles> it takes like 6 minutes to get to the desktop
[07:38] <bjangles> then everything is really dog slow
[07:39] <bjangles> I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue, maybe with the graphics chipset
[07:39] <bjangles> or if it's just because there's not enough memory
[08:44] <moodog> Morning :)
[10:08] <anish> Heya
[10:08] <anish> Guys
[10:08] <anish> I have a really big problem
[10:08] <anish> I changed my Windows partition into a Linux Swap and now I cant change it back to NTFS
[10:08] <anish> Can anyone help me please?
[10:09] <Araneidae> Oops
[10:17] <Araneidae> My guess is, if you ran your system with that partition as a swap partition, then it's gone for good.
[10:54] <nurbs> hi everyone!
[10:55] <nurbs> ive a simple question: why, when i drag&drop a file into a folder on the desktop, this file doest disappear from the desktop?
[10:55] <nurbs> doesnt*
[10:56] <nurbs> in other term how could i set the drag&drop to act like a "cut from desktop, paste into folder" ?
[10:57] <nurbs> and not "copy from desktop, paste into folder"
[10:57] <nurbs> im using jaunty jackalope xubuntu
[10:58] <nurbs> ty in advance for your hints
[11:23] <TheSheep> nurbs: hold down ctrl key
[11:26] <nurbs> TheSheep, thanks a lot!
[11:28] <nurbs> hm
[11:28] <nurbs> TheSheep, its shift key
[11:28] <nurbs> but anyway ty, did not know it was such a simple manip
[11:30] <dew> can anyone guid me in installing xubuntu with virtual michine on existing xp sys.
[12:30] <dew>  hey just installed vmware player. How do i install ubuntu 9.04?
[12:48] <slow-motion> hi
[13:23] <dew> hey how do i install xubuntu with vmware server?
[13:23] <dew> pm plz
[13:24] <knome> dew, if you need help installing an os in vmware server, you should ask #vmware
[13:24] <dew> k
[13:24] <dew> ty
[13:47] <slow-motion> bye
[14:08] <vidd> how do i create an auto-started application in 9.04?
[14:08] <vinnl> vidd, there should be an application for that in the settings manager
[14:09] <vinnl> I believe xfce4-autostart-editor
[14:09] <knome> vidd, "Session and startup"
[14:09] <vinnl> Oh >.<
[14:09] <vinnl> So much for my memory
[14:09] <vidd> no..not in 9.04
[14:09] <vidd> it was there in 8.10
[14:10] <knome> vidd, yes..yes in 9.04.
[14:10] <vidd> there it is
[14:10] <vidd> its been moved
[14:10] <vidd> y'all need to quit hiding stuff =]
[14:11] <knome> you need to get new eyeglasses
[14:11] <vidd> in the past there was an entry on the menu system for autostart applications
[14:12] <knome> yes there was.
[14:12] <vidd> (i started from dapper and dist-upgraded ever since, so i dont recall when)
[14:12] <vidd> and i did a clean install and it was gone
[14:13] <vidd> any chance we can get that back?
[14:13] <knome> why should we?
[14:14] <knome> i think its current place is justified
[14:14] <knome> and logical
[14:14] <vidd> well there's all the yammering about we have to add this crapp and that crap for "ease of use"
[14:14] <vinnl> vidd, you can create a .desktop file yourself
[14:15] <vidd> im sure if i knew how i would
[14:15] <vinnl> vidd, just copy an existing file, and edit the command and the name sections, I'm sure you can figure it out
[14:16] <vidd> but the "ease of use" vs. "keep it lightweight" sides with "ease of use"
[14:16] <vinnl> What's this got to do with keeping it lightweight?
[14:17] <vidd> this isnt the place for this discussion
[14:17] <vidd> thank you for the answer
[14:17] <vinnl> :)
[16:42] <PoisonSerpent> Do you guys' know what Invalid ROM Contents and SelfID recieved outside of bus sequence mean?
[18:39] <anonmatir> guys! if i download xubuntu 9.04 and burn it.. will i be able to empty the NTFS voulme, and then load xubuntu ther?
[18:40] <vinnl> anonmatir, I think you can also empty the NTFS volume from the LiveCD and then install Xubuntu there
[18:40] <anonmatir> Xubuntu live ?
[18:40] <vinnl> !livecd
[18:41] <anonmatir>  Ubuntu Desktop CD is both live and installable ?
[18:41] <anonmatir> hmm
[18:41] <vinnl> Yeah
[18:41] <vinnl> And so is the Xubuntu Desktop CD :)
[18:42] <anonmatir> hmm.  i have a amd semopro 2800+ with 256mb ddr1.. what would u suggest .. xubuntu or normal ?
[18:42] <vinnl> If you mean Ubuntu by normal, then not that
[18:42] <anonmatir> hehe yeh..
[18:42] <vinnl> You could run Xubuntu but it will be slow, of course
[18:42] <anonmatir> slower than xp ?
[18:43] <anonmatir> i think i read xubuntu had a requirment of 128mb
[18:43] <vinnl> anonmatir, 192MB, see http://xubuntu.org/get#requirements
[18:44] <vinnl> Not sure if it would be slower than XP, but I don't think so
[18:44] <vinnl> Definitely not if you also had a virus scan and stuff running in XP
[18:45] <anonmatir> thats a duifferent thing.. hmm .. thanx dude..
[18:45] <vinnl> yw :)
[21:47] <jimisrvrox> hey guys im having probs getting an access point in 9.04 have a rt2500 card would appreciate some help
[22:06] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have a rt2500 that is not seeing an access point but I am seeing in iwconfig and ifconfig I would appreciate some help as it was working at one point the other day.
[22:43] <CRM> Can I install Xubuntu on a machine with 128 MB RAM, and would I in that case need the Alternate Install CD ?
[22:50] <SiDi> CRM: you definately will need the Alternate CD
[22:51] <SiDi> And it can run, but once it's installed i advise you to disable the update notifier and hardware notifier to gain some RAM (in Apps -> Parameters -> Session & boot)
[22:51] <SiDi> Also, use the 32bit CD and put 500 megs of swap :)
[22:57] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: its probably just networkmanager having trouble to refresh then
[22:58] <SiDi> Did you try to connect to an invisible access point, and to put the SSID of your network in it ?
[22:58] <jimisrvrox> tried that..
[22:58] <jimisrvrox> Access Point: not-associated ESSID: ""
[22:58] <jimisrvrox> is what I get
[22:59] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: sorry but i _really_ don't remember how to connect to networks in command line :/
[22:59] <jimisrvrox> yeah me neither
[22:59] <CRM> Would I be better off with Puppylinux ?
[22:59] <SiDi> iwconfig wlan0 essid <yourESSID> mode managed ap 00:03:52:AE:FE:A0
[23:00] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: i think its something like that, and the mac address of the SSID in the end, this should force it to associate
[23:00] <SiDi> CRM: i never tried it. If you want a desktop distro that you can use without sacrifying usability then i think Xubuntu is what you need
[23:00] <SiDi> CRM: but if you feel its really too heavy then a very very lightweight distro with LXDE / Flux / openbox is what you need
[23:01] <jimisrvrox> right SiDi I get that part but ESSID gives me "" instead of my ssid and AP is not-associated
[23:01] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: i think you need to turn wlan0 down, then type this, then turn it on, and then iwconfig should show it associated
[23:02] <CRM> SiDi : Im running Xubuntu here with 850 MHz / 256 MB RAM, but Im not sure if Xubuntu would do well on a system with only 128 MB RAM ?
[23:02] <Cyber_Akuma-SUSE> small chan
[23:02] <SiDi> CRM: our QA manager makes it run on a 128 MB ram machine, so yes it works :) but of course, the weaker the machine, the slower it is.
[23:03] <Cyber_Akuma-SUSE> So, I typically use Xubuntu as an emergency/recovery disk.
[23:03] <CRM> SiDi : Do I need to change something, or will it just work like normal even if I have only 128 MB RAM?
[23:03] <SiDi> CRM: it will work. But as i said above, disabling the daemons and services you dont need will offer you a few extra megs of ram
[23:03] <Cyber_Akuma-SUSE> I have an install of OpenSUSE I want to backup, to an image file, not clone it to another partition, is that possible with a Xubuntu livecd?
[23:17] <Cyber_Akuma-SUSE> anyone?