[00:01] they certainly don't make it easy to file a bug [00:02] what's wrong? [00:02] !bugs [00:02] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [00:04] yeah...I am in launchpad...after trying ubuntu-bug and apport . Finally where I need to be (I think) [00:05] Yeah when I started reporting I had a hard time understanding that Launchpad was for more than Ubuntu. And that you need to report it against Ubuntu, and to a specific package [00:14] yeah, not a problem but it would be easier if they just said 'Run these commands and paste the output here' [00:15] and now that I have clicked on Submit it is just sitting there loading [00:15] maybe I need to file a bug about the bug reporting system [00:16] Well there is the possibility, Launchpad is a Launchpadproject as well :P [00:16] firefox says it is waiting on launchpad.net....so..... [00:17] been a little disappointed in jaunty...too many of these sort of 'rough edges' [00:17] Yeah well, xfmedia is basically dead [00:18] vinnl: I'm not really concerned about xfmedia...use audacious and it works fine for me. But if it is dead take it out of the repos then it won't be an issue [00:19] the latest kernel update killed my internal wifi card...which worked out of the box at install. [00:19] Yeah but still, it's in universe, and if nobody uses it nobody reports bugs ;) [00:19] Hmm yeah that sucks [00:20] and my external wifi, an atheros chip that should be supported, wouldn't work...had to revert to ndiswrapper to use it. [00:20] just too many little headaches like these [01:09] can anyone help me get my display working on my ibm thinkpad laptop just finished install and screen will not come on [01:10] i can enter my user name and password computer still boots i think its using a wrong driverf [01:10] cant see nothing [01:12] wow no one alive in here [01:19] Can anyone help me get xubuntu runnin on my laptop [01:31] how can i remove my display driver and install a older version === schpoorky_ is now known as schpoorky [03:33] hey all I need guidance ,I am helping a friend install xubuntu alongside with vista [03:33] he has no disks so I have him installing daemon tools right now [03:34] holy &h*t ! OpenShot installer has been building/configuring for last 25 minutes ! [03:34] * artistxe just wanted to check it out . . . [03:35] hmmm . watch it not work [03:36] DJNomad, just curious. he NEEDS to keep Vista ? [03:36] he wants to keep it [03:36] he is a new convert [03:37] I dunno he says he cant find where the xubuntu image went or the daemon tools lol [03:37] read slashdot article referring to it as Microsoft's worst mistake . but anyway [03:37] think he is playing dumb cause he is scared but that isn't his way so prolly not [03:38] I have tried xubuntu off and on for 2 years and finally i understand it [03:38] to be honest . I installed from booting disk [03:38] he found it [03:39] artistxe, yeah me too but you can mount the image in windoz and install from inside it [03:39] I promote it :D [03:39] oh. hmm. have not a clue on that one. you can mount as in a virtual disk ? [03:40] yes artistxe [03:40] i think ubuntu uses wubi or something like that to install inside doz [03:40] oooh. wubi install is not a great idea. [03:41] runs much faster as permaneent install [03:41] artistxe, thats only option for him with no disk [03:41] wubi is permanant install [03:41] probably true. then again. not sure [03:41] or what i am talking about is fast [03:41] no . not the same thing [03:41] you are refering to live cd? [03:42] live cd is also slow [03:42] very lol [03:43] how can i edit my xorg.conf file when i do its blank in terminal but there and wont alow me to save it in the file system [03:44] will not allow you to save because it does not have permission [03:45] sudo gedit . or mousepad ( or whatever editor you use ) [03:46] how do i give it permision [03:46] if I install another file manager like nautilus will it slow my pc too much when not browsing files?> [03:47] I am using only xfce things that came with it thus far [03:47] zesss the best way i know of is how they said [03:48] thunar dont have a open as root option [03:48] DJNomad: things that you install and don't use won't slow your computer down at all [03:48] they will only fill up your hard disk [03:48] thanks auntieNeo I like nautilus much better [03:49] you can open as root in it [03:49] and in thunar I had to go through a process for it to automount my 2nd hdd [03:52] whats everyones choice filemanager? [03:52] Thunar [03:53] im trying to stay away from memory intense things [03:53] artistxe, is there addons for it that are cool? [03:54] brb gotta go fer few 30 maybe [03:55] have not found a need for any addons . is fine for my purposes , but then. . . I like to use terminal [04:42] <[texas]> what's the default archiver for xubuntu? [04:44] file roller [04:45] whats a great program for takin avi files and putting them to dvd [04:45] <[texas]> thanks [04:45] and converting them [04:47] <[texas]> zesss, i use handbrake [04:47] <[texas]> oh wait, thats a ripper [04:47] <[texas]> maybe media coder? [04:51] handbrake for audio [04:51] ?? [04:51] cuz im looking for that too [04:53] <[texas]> handbrake is a dvd ripper [06:06] what is a good program to use to create flash animations with ? [06:57] "Preferences" doesn't appear under "System" or "Settings" on the main menu [06:57] this is on Xubuntu 9.04 jaunty [07:00] This has me stuck at step 4 of this How-To: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 [07:02] overall, this is part of diagnosing and fixing a complete lack of audio on the system [07:03] "aplay -l" reports no sound card while "lspci -v" identifies the onboard Realtek ALC888 as an nVidia MCP67 HD Audio device [07:07] a Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide on the Ubuntu forums has failed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 [07:10] I'm continuing to plug away at it, but lots of plugging has failed [07:15] I have a thinkpad t20 with 10GB HD/128MB RAM/700MHz PIII, is 128MB RAM enough? [07:15] it takes about 5 minutes just to load the desktop [07:16] I'm wondering if it's an incompatibility with the graphics chipset [07:16] I can't see where to disable desktop effects [07:16] I installed using the alternate CD for latest 9.10 distro [07:20] After all this and other troubles, I have to wonder what's so great about Linux [07:20] Windows crashed no more often than Xubuntu has [07:21] and at least I could find drivers [07:23] I thought Linux wasn't going to freeze just because, say, firefox crashed [07:24] so anyone know if 128mb is not enough for latest xubuntu? [07:24] 128mb ram [07:38] xubuntu recommends 256mb ram but says it will run with 128mb, just how slow will it be with 128? [07:38] I have a thinkpad t20/PIII 700MHz [07:38] it takes like 6 minutes to get to the desktop [07:38] then everything is really dog slow [07:39] I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue, maybe with the graphics chipset [07:39] or if it's just because there's not enough memory [08:44] Morning :) [10:08] Heya [10:08] Guys [10:08] I have a really big problem [10:08] I changed my Windows partition into a Linux Swap and now I cant change it back to NTFS [10:08] Can anyone help me please? [10:09] Oops [10:17] My guess is, if you ran your system with that partition as a swap partition, then it's gone for good. [10:54] hi everyone! [10:55] ive a simple question: why, when i drag&drop a file into a folder on the desktop, this file doest disappear from the desktop? [10:55] doesnt* [10:56] in other term how could i set the drag&drop to act like a "cut from desktop, paste into folder" ? [10:57] and not "copy from desktop, paste into folder" [10:57] im using jaunty jackalope xubuntu [10:58] ty in advance for your hints === SiDi is now known as Guest56767 [11:23] nurbs: hold down ctrl key [11:26] TheSheep, thanks a lot! [11:28] hm [11:28] TheSheep, its shift key [11:28] but anyway ty, did not know it was such a simple manip [11:30] can anyone guid me in installing xubuntu with virtual michine on existing xp sys. === durt_ is now known as durt === Guest56767 is now known as sidi === sidi is now known as SiDi [12:30] hey just installed vmware player. How do i install ubuntu 9.04? [12:48] hi [13:23] hey how do i install xubuntu with vmware server? [13:23] pm plz [13:24] dew, if you need help installing an os in vmware server, you should ask #vmware [13:24] k [13:24] ty [13:47] bye [14:08] how do i create an auto-started application in 9.04? [14:08] vidd, there should be an application for that in the settings manager [14:09] I believe xfce4-autostart-editor [14:09] vidd, "Session and startup" [14:09] Oh >.< [14:09] So much for my memory [14:09] no..not in 9.04 [14:09] it was there in 8.10 [14:10] vidd, yes..yes in 9.04. [14:10] there it is [14:10] its been moved [14:10] y'all need to quit hiding stuff =] [14:11] you need to get new eyeglasses [14:11] in the past there was an entry on the menu system for autostart applications [14:12] yes there was. [14:12] (i started from dapper and dist-upgraded ever since, so i dont recall when) [14:12] and i did a clean install and it was gone [14:13] any chance we can get that back? [14:13] why should we? [14:14] i think its current place is justified [14:14] and logical [14:14] well there's all the yammering about we have to add this crapp and that crap for "ease of use" [14:14] vidd, you can create a .desktop file yourself [14:15] im sure if i knew how i would [14:15] vidd, just copy an existing file, and edit the command and the name sections, I'm sure you can figure it out [14:16] but the "ease of use" vs. "keep it lightweight" sides with "ease of use" [14:16] What's this got to do with keeping it lightweight? [14:17] this isnt the place for this discussion [14:17] thank you for the answer [14:17] :) === vinnl is now known as vinnl|out === vinnl|out is now known as vinnl [16:42] Do you guys' know what Invalid ROM Contents and SelfID recieved outside of bus sequence mean? === vinnl is now known as vinnl|cooking === vinnl|cooking is now known as vinnl [18:39] guys! if i download xubuntu 9.04 and burn it.. will i be able to empty the NTFS voulme, and then load xubuntu ther? [18:40] anonmatir, I think you can also empty the NTFS volume from the LiveCD and then install Xubuntu there [18:40] Xubuntu live ? [18:40] !livecd [18:40] The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option. [18:41] Ubuntu Desktop CD is both live and installable ? [18:41] hmm [18:41] Yeah [18:41] And so is the Xubuntu Desktop CD :) [18:42] hmm. i have a amd semopro 2800+ with 256mb ddr1.. what would u suggest .. xubuntu or normal ? [18:42] If you mean Ubuntu by normal, then not that [18:42] hehe yeh.. [18:42] You could run Xubuntu but it will be slow, of course [18:42] slower than xp ? [18:43] i think i read xubuntu had a requirment of 128mb [18:43] anonmatir, 192MB, see http://xubuntu.org/get#requirements [18:44] Not sure if it would be slower than XP, but I don't think so [18:44] Definitely not if you also had a virus scan and stuff running in XP [18:45] thats a duifferent thing.. hmm .. thanx dude.. [18:45] yw :) [21:47] hey guys im having probs getting an access point in 9.04 have a rt2500 card would appreciate some help === Aristad_ is now known as Aristad [22:06] hey guys I have a rt2500 that is not seeing an access point but I am seeing in iwconfig and ifconfig I would appreciate some help as it was working at one point the other day. [22:43] Can I install Xubuntu on a machine with 128 MB RAM, and would I in that case need the Alternate Install CD ? [22:50] CRM: you definately will need the Alternate CD [22:51] And it can run, but once it's installed i advise you to disable the update notifier and hardware notifier to gain some RAM (in Apps -> Parameters -> Session & boot) [22:51] Also, use the 32bit CD and put 500 megs of swap :) [22:57] jimisrvrox: its probably just networkmanager having trouble to refresh then [22:58] Did you try to connect to an invisible access point, and to put the SSID of your network in it ? [22:58] tried that.. [22:58] Access Point: not-associated ESSID: "" [22:58] is what I get [22:59] jimisrvrox: sorry but i _really_ don't remember how to connect to networks in command line :/ [22:59] yeah me neither [22:59] Would I be better off with Puppylinux ? [22:59] iwconfig wlan0 essid mode managed ap 00:03:52:AE:FE:A0 [23:00] jimisrvrox: i think its something like that, and the mac address of the SSID in the end, this should force it to associate [23:00] CRM: i never tried it. If you want a desktop distro that you can use without sacrifying usability then i think Xubuntu is what you need [23:00] CRM: but if you feel its really too heavy then a very very lightweight distro with LXDE / Flux / openbox is what you need [23:01] right SiDi I get that part but ESSID gives me "" instead of my ssid and AP is not-associated [23:01] jimisrvrox: i think you need to turn wlan0 down, then type this, then turn it on, and then iwconfig should show it associated [23:02] SiDi : Im running Xubuntu here with 850 MHz / 256 MB RAM, but Im not sure if Xubuntu would do well on a system with only 128 MB RAM ? [23:02] small chan [23:02] CRM: our QA manager makes it run on a 128 MB ram machine, so yes it works :) but of course, the weaker the machine, the slower it is. [23:03] So, I typically use Xubuntu as an emergency/recovery disk. [23:03] SiDi : Do I need to change something, or will it just work like normal even if I have only 128 MB RAM? [23:03] CRM: it will work. But as i said above, disabling the daemons and services you dont need will offer you a few extra megs of ram [23:03] I have an install of OpenSUSE I want to backup, to an image file, not clone it to another partition, is that possible with a Xubuntu livecd? [23:17] anyone?