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OldSchoolcia bot needs to die01:33
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* JontheEchidna has a paperkut03:08
JontheEchidnain the name of papercuts: kde svn 100245903:22
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1002459&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 100245903:22
JontheEchidnanow I'll just need to find time to get my layout-fu up to aseigo's liking03:23
vorianwednesday is my last day \o/03:26
JontheEchidnaoh, so that's the sign at your real place of work?03:26
JontheEchidnahaha, sweet03:26
voriani wanted to do a forkbomb, but we didn't have the right characters03:27
JontheEchidnawell, sweet @ the sign. I don't claim to know the conditions surrounding your departure03:27
vorianI'm more than happy to quit03:27
voriani gave a long notice too03:27
vorianso, everyone is happy03:27
JontheEchidnaseems konq has had this sort of trouble in the past: kde svn 85398703:34
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=853987&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 853987 | Sync default value with the one in konqueror.kcfg. Ouch. This code should use kconfigxt.03:34
* JontheEchidna agrees03:34
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neversfeldeBug #404839 needs a sponsor12:44
neversfeldemhh, no bot around https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-windowlist/+bug/40483912:45
Tm_Tand people wonder why we like our bots12:48
Tm_Tneversfelde: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2009-July/000590.html12:59
Tm_Tback to lurking ->13:00
_Simesip4 in karmic claims to depend on libjs-jquery...13:16
_Simewow, libboost1.37-dev drags in 332MB (on disk) of related stuff.16:15
shtylmanso my webcam doesn't work on the new kernel...16:58
shtylmanoh well... :(16:58
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claydohmy laptop doesn't work on the new kernel :(17:08
ScottKclaydoh: Nice job on the Alpha 3 release notes.17:11
JontheEchidnabug 40493017:33
JontheEchidnano ubottu D:17:33
shtylmanwow...new kmail is pretty fantastic...17:49
maconew kmail?17:50
shtylmanwell..new to me17:50
shtylmanI never used kmail before17:50
shtylmanonly the old 3.5 one17:50
shtylmannot the kde4 one17:50
shtylmanbut I like many of the stuff they have added and cleanedup17:51
macoah ok17:53
_Simeis it stable?18:14
lex79JontheEchidna: to making a new bzr repo, I tried with18:25
lex79bzr push bzr+ssh://kubuntu-members@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/digikam/ubuntu18:25
lex79Launchpad user 'kubuntu-members' doesn't have a registered SSH key18:25
* JontheEchidna usually makes the new repos in launchpad itself18:27
lex79done, thanks :)18:31
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* shtylman +1 konversation alpha18:44
lex79how to regiister without +junk ?18:52
Riddelllex79: mostly you just push it to the desired location18:56
Riddellbzr push lp:~<user>/<project>/<branch>18:56
JontheEchidnalex79: register the branch from the upstream project's page in launchpad18:56
lex79JontheEchidna: there is no branch from the upstream for kipi-plugins18:57
JontheEchidnaah, no kipi-plugins project?18:57
lex79uhm no18:57
JontheEchidnayou would want to register a kipi-plugins project on launchpad18:58
JontheEchidnaafter you register kipi-plugins, then you'll be able to add the branch18:58
lex79ok thanks18:58
Riddell"Harald Sitter (apachelogger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members team"  yay!19:00
jussi01_severely broken system... yum yum19:01
RiddellJontheEchidna: do you know if there was a resolution to Bille's network manager issue yesterday?19:01
JontheEchidnaRiddell: We determined that we weren't shipping a too-new svn, and that the user had compiled it himself but still reported as using ubuntu packages19:03
Riddellok, that's a nice resolution19:04
JontheEchidnaRiddell: by the way, it seems klipper doesn't like the .desktop translation doman stuff: bug 36286019:05
JontheEchidnaMind if I assign it to you since you know the most about that?19:05
Riddellyeah go ahead19:06
jussi01_so, was updating to the RC3, it borked, and hung (dropped x). I tried to boot in, had no inputs. so dropped to recovery console, tried to update. not sure what went wrong, but Im now at the following message: update-initramfs: generating /boot/initrd... cpio ./sbin/udevadm: cannot stat no such file or dir.19:07
jussi01_if some one feels like telling me how to fix that, you are most welcome ;)19:07
JontheEchidnajussi01_: a similar problem got me good. I had to reinstall.19:08
jussi01_JontheEchidna: yeps, im feeling like that might happen, but Im desparately trying to avoid it...19:08
JontheEchidna I think we both rebooted while it was generating the initramfs19:10
JontheEchidnanot surprising since that's one of the parts of the upgrade that takes a little bit of time to complete19:10
jussi01_quite possibly. so theres nothing do able about it? nothing to try?19:10
JontheEchidnamaybe recovery mode, and then try to complete the upgrade, if you can figure how to set up networking in recovery mode19:11
jussi01_JontheEchidna: thats where I am now. no worky19:11
JontheEchidnaor maybe you could try re-running update-initramfs?19:11
jussi01_how would I do that?`19:12
JontheEchidnasudo update-initramfs19:12
* jussi01_ goes to try, brb19:12
JontheEchidnayou may need to be in the root console19:12
jussi01_yeah, Im there. its asking me for a switch...19:14
jussi01_hrm, am I wanting to create a new one, or update the current one?19:14
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JontheEchidnaupdating the current one couldn't hurt19:15
jussi01_yeah, I spose things cant get any worse...19:15
jussi01_brb, gonna try it19:15
JontheEchidnacomputer over, viruses = very yes19:15
jussi01_ok, that give the same error message. ill let you know how it goes with creating a new one...19:16
jussi01_JontheEchidna: nope. Im going to try force removing the kernel in question, then dpkg --configure -a : does that sound sane to you?19:19
shtylmanRiddell: I think the todolist should be re-orged so that the status is on the far right side... like on the old todo list (probly no need to do it for this todo list) but a good idea for the next one... much easier to see what has been done19:19
Riddellgo for it19:20
JontheEchidnajussi01_: can't get any worse, I guess19:21
jussi01_JontheEchidna: its screwed. Im going to reinstall... sigh.19:26
* jussi01_ wishes he could just reinstall the linux parts and leave the rest intact...19:27
jussi01_ 19:44
dtchenjussi01_: err, usually you can work around that error by forcibly reinstalling udev and regenerating an initramfs19:51
apacheloggerRiddell: ping20:13
Riddellhi apachelogger20:15
apacheloggerRiddell: ahoy, I need you to poke a bit in the packaging issues highlighted by david in his latest mail about translations20:16
apacheloggerwriting a mail right now20:16
* apachelogger always sends with wrong email address :S20:23
apacheloggerRiddell: anyway, mail sent and queued in kubuntu-devel ;-)20:23
RiddellI don't see it in the moderation queue20:27
apacheloggerbad behaviour :P20:28
apacheloggerRiddell: sent again20:30
Riddellonly way to keep the moderation sane20:30
apacheloggerRiddell: increase amount of mods :P20:30
* apachelogger subscribes his gmail address20:30
apacheloggeractually, if mailman would support alias addresses it would be very useful too20:30
apacheloggerRiddell: I'll fix up pkg-kde-tools20:32
shtylmananyone know if there is a way to detect (in python) if compositing is turned on?20:43
shtylmanor enabled?20:43
shtylmanI need to run different sets of code depending on if compositing is on or not20:43
apacheloggershtylman: I guess you can query it via dbus from kwin20:45
mgraesslinshtylman: KWindowSystem also provides a method to check if compositing is enabled20:46
shtylmanmgraesslin: :)20:46
mgraesslinthat one also works if you have Compiz20:47
shtylmanmgraesslin: worked like a charm20:49
* apachelogger likes kwindowsystem from now on20:50
mgraesslinit's awesome :-)20:50
shtylmanRiddell: http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/installer_dialog.png21:17
shtylmanthat would replace the standard looking dialog that pops up when detecting disks and whatnot...21:17
shtylman(when there is not compositing, it just doesn't have the shadow under it...but is still rounded)21:18
Mamarokgah, I'm sick of idiots who tell people to use pulseaudio in #kubuntu for 9.04 :( we are the ones who get the users whining in #amarok later21:21
Riddellshtylman: looks lovely21:42
shtylmanRiddell: think so... don't think it takes the re-theming too far? ... I had that concern potentially, but found that this dialog looked better than a standard *window* based dialog21:43
shtylmanwhich now seems to stand out too much... :/21:43
Riddellif it works I don't see why not21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: apachelogger * r12 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/ (kde.rb lib/orphansparser.rb): (log message trimmed)21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: lib/orphansparser.rb:21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: * listTags(amount=3) to list possible tag names21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: * getRevision(tag) to return revision of tag name21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: * Workaround bug where svn switch to in the way of svn up *shrug*21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: kde.rb:21:44
CIA-30Kubuntu: * Only hardcode revision of previous series' KDE tag21:44
* apachelogger declares bzr-cia a fail and kills the bot21:44
ScottKLooks like RC3 built on all archs except, of course, armel.21:48
apacheloggernetworkmanager plamsoid fails to build21:49
apacheloggerpoor icecream cluster worked for nothing :(21:49
apacheloggerwho is going to repair amarok-nightly?21:51
* shtylman not it21:51
* vorian needs an arm machine21:52
* vorian gives apachelogger a big hug21:52
vorianlate birthday hug21:52
apacheloggeruh, the huggles!21:52
* apachelogger rehugs vorian21:52
* apachelogger also hugs shtylman21:52
lex79digikam and kipi-plugins are in bzr now21:56
jussi01_dtchen: Ive just come in and seen that... havent reinstalled yet, Ill give it a try! thanks!!22:01
Riddellryanakca: about?22:08
jussi01_hrm, is this a  paper cut bug or something else... When copying, the copying notification popup needs to be expandable to see the full path.22:11
jussi01_err paperkut :D22:11
ScottKThe armel thing is apparently down to needing a longer timeout to build qt4-x11 on armel.22:13
ScottKIt's been requested, so we're close.22:13
RiddellScottK: can't we just turn off lzma for armel?22:15
ScottKRiddell: lzma is solved.  It's something gcc 4.4ish now.22:15
jussi01_ScottK: are you familiar with an imx 31 from free scale_ would our arm builds run on it?22:16
ScottKjussi01_: I'm not.  NCommander is the one who knows such stuff.22:16
jussi01_ScottK: ok then, Ill seek him out... :D22:17
ScottKYou already have ....22:17
jussi01_Are we in his "likely around" timezone?22:18
ScottKHe lives in -040022:18
jussi01_ok, so hopefully he will turn up soon :)22:18
jussi01_its getting close to bed  time here... after midnight22:19
apacheloggerNightrose: ping poke call22:25
Nightroseapachelogger: pong22:25
apacheloggerNightrose: am I the best looking dev ever?22:26
Nightroseapachelogger: of course22:26
* apachelogger bzr pushes22:26
Nightroseright after fregl22:26
Nightrosea little22:27
* apachelogger waits for lp22:28
apacheloggerNightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor r6322:28
apacheloggerArgument > Config > Default22:29
apacheloggermost awesome documentation line ever :P22:29
Nightroseapachelogger: hehe now if I could use that with git... :/22:30
* Nightrose needs to figure out how to do the whole tagging thing in git22:30
apacheloggergod damnit22:30
apacheloggeryou know, I told you that I need to refactor it towards that direction :P22:31
apacheloggerbut ye nahd22:31
Nightrosei didn't!22:31
apacheloggeryou did!22:31
apacheloggerwere whining about minor bugs :P22:31
Nightrose*lol* for sure22:32
apacheloggerNightrose: I suppose git tag is the way to go22:32
jussi01dtchen: you rock my world!!!! THANK YOU!!!22:32
Nightroseprobably - still needs tarball sorted out22:32
apacheloggerwell, that is easy :P22:33
* apachelogger is wondering though22:33
apacheloggerNightrose: since doc and l10n are in SVN... how would we tag that?22:33
apacheloggerwould need independent tag, or we import into git, which is darn slow and looses history22:33
apacheloggerNightrose: for the time being: how about mirroring git master to SVN22:34
apacheloggerthat way you don't have to worry about that kinda stuff for now :P22:34
Nightroseno - scripty gets confused by that - amarok dir in svn is being deleted right now22:35
apacheloggertoo bad22:35
apacheloggerwell, then, make your choice22:35
apacheloggerindepdent tag in KDE SVN or git add po22:35
Nightrosethe latter i guess22:36
Nightrosenot sure though22:36
apacheloggerNightrose: well, get it discussed22:36
Nightroseneeds some input from ian22:37
apacheloggeranyway, unless I come up with a super awesome design that restructures the libs in a way that they become less dependent on each other and on SVN the best I can do is branch a git version of the script22:38
apacheloggermaybe have src, l10n and doc as classes with common functions and create srcSVN, l10nSVN and docSVN as implemenations of those22:39
apacheloggeror create a proxy class around src, l10n and doc and then implement that as svn, probably easier to control frontendwise22:40
* apachelogger needs to ponder22:40
ryanakcaRiddell: Yes, just got in, what can I do for you?23:15
shtylmanryanakca: I can't click on any content link below #9... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo23:45
ryanakcashtylman: known and annoying issue, bug 38923323:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 389233 in kubuntu-website "[wiki] title underlines overlap table of contents" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38923323:45
shtylmanryanakca: cool, just making sure :)23:46
ScottKRiddell: Dell mini 10v has a multimedia key to control wifi on/off and seems to get a reasonable keyboard event.  Any thoughts on what package should deal with that?23:46
ScottKIt's currently not working23:46
Riddellnetwork manager applet should23:47
Riddellin a perfect world, I doubt there's any code for it23:48
shtylmanRiddell: is the network manager getting love from sebas this cycle?23:50
Riddellshtylman: from wstephenson it is, although no guarantee it'll ever be ready23:52
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shtylmanand what about that giant block of artwork todo we have untouched/unassigned?23:54
shtylmanis that for later?23:54
shtylmanoh...and do we know yet if our version of oo is with the kde4 patches?23:56
shtylmanthose have a one or two small bugs in the file picker...but beyond that we can press forward and remove kde3 libs I think23:56

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