=== erozeurozeuroizu is now known as bobesponja [01:33] ug [01:33] cia bot needs to die === OldSchool is now known as vorian [03:08] * JontheEchidna has a paperkut [03:22] in the name of papercuts: kde svn 1002459 [03:22] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1002459&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1002459 [03:23] now I'll just need to find time to get my layout-fu up to aseigo's liking [03:25] http://machinecrusade.net/goodbyesteve.jpg [03:25] D: [03:26] wednesday is my last day \o/ [03:26] oh, so that's the sign at your real place of work? [03:26] yep [03:26] haha, sweet [03:27] i wanted to do a forkbomb, but we didn't have the right characters [03:27] well, sweet @ the sign. I don't claim to know the conditions surrounding your departure [03:27] heh [03:27] I'm more than happy to quit [03:27] i gave a long notice too [03:27] so, everyone is happy [03:34] seems konq has had this sort of trouble in the past: kde svn 853987 [03:34] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=853987&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 853987 | Sync default value with the one in konqueror.kcfg. Ouch. This code should use kconfigxt. [03:34] * JontheEchidna agrees === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz === NCommand` is now known as NCommander === olujicz_ is now known as olujicz === cortex_sk is now known as cortex|sk [12:44] Bug #404839 needs a sponsor [12:45] mhh, no bot around https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-windowlist/+bug/404839 [12:48] and people wonder why we like our bots [12:59] neversfelde: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2009-July/000590.html [13:00] back to lurking -> [13:16] <_Sime> sip4 in karmic claims to depend on libjs-jquery... [13:17] <_Sime> porkchops! [16:15] <_Sime> wow, libboost1.37-dev drags in 332MB (on disk) of related stuff. [16:58] so my webcam doesn't work on the new kernel... [16:58] oh well... :( === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [17:08] my laptop doesn't work on the new kernel :( [17:11] claydoh: Nice job on the Alpha 3 release notes. [17:33] bug 404930 [17:33] no ubottu D: [17:49] wow...new kmail is pretty fantastic... [17:50] new kmail? [17:50] well..new to me [17:50] I never used kmail before [17:50] only the old 3.5 one [17:50] not the kde4 one [17:51] but I like many of the stuff they have added and cleanedup [17:53] ah ok [18:14] <_Sime> is it stable? [18:25] JontheEchidna: to making a new bzr repo, I tried with [18:25] bzr push bzr+ssh://kubuntu-members@bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/digikam/ubuntu [18:25] Launchpad user 'kubuntu-members' doesn't have a registered SSH key [18:25] :( [18:27] * JontheEchidna usually makes the new repos in launchpad itself [18:27] https://code.launchpad.net/dikikam [18:27] https://code.launchpad.net/digikam [18:31] done, thanks :) === shtylman_ is now known as shtylman [18:44] * shtylman +1 konversation alpha [18:45] evening [18:52] uff.... [18:52] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+addbranch [18:52] how to regiister without +junk ? [18:56] lex79: mostly you just push it to the desired location [18:56] bzr push lp:~// [18:56] lex79: register the branch from the upstream project's page in launchpad [18:57] JontheEchidna: there is no branch from the upstream for kipi-plugins [18:57] ah, no kipi-plugins project? [18:57] uhm no [18:58] you would want to register a kipi-plugins project on launchpad [18:58] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/kipi-plugins [18:58] after you register kipi-plugins, then you'll be able to add the branch [18:58] ok thanks [19:00] "Harald Sitter (apachelogger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members team" yay! [19:01] hrm [19:01] severely broken system... yum yum [19:01] JontheEchidna: do you know if there was a resolution to Bille's network manager issue yesterday? [19:03] Riddell: We determined that we weren't shipping a too-new svn, and that the user had compiled it himself but still reported as using ubuntu packages [19:04] ok, that's a nice resolution [19:05] Riddell: by the way, it seems klipper doesn't like the .desktop translation doman stuff: bug 362860 [19:05] Mind if I assign it to you since you know the most about that? [19:06] hmm [19:06] yeah go ahead [19:07] so, was updating to the RC3, it borked, and hung (dropped x). I tried to boot in, had no inputs. so dropped to recovery console, tried to update. not sure what went wrong, but Im now at the following message: update-initramfs: generating /boot/initrd... cpio ./sbin/udevadm: cannot stat no such file or dir. [19:07] if some one feels like telling me how to fix that, you are most welcome ;) [19:08] jussi01_: a similar problem got me good. I had to reinstall. [19:08] JontheEchidna: yeps, im feeling like that might happen, but Im desparately trying to avoid it... [19:10] I think we both rebooted while it was generating the initramfs [19:10] not surprising since that's one of the parts of the upgrade that takes a little bit of time to complete [19:10] quite possibly. so theres nothing do able about it? nothing to try? [19:11] maybe recovery mode, and then try to complete the upgrade, if you can figure how to set up networking in recovery mode [19:11] JontheEchidna: thats where I am now. no worky [19:11] or maybe you could try re-running update-initramfs? [19:12] how would I do that?` [19:12] sudo update-initramfs [19:12] * jussi01_ goes to try, brb [19:12] you may need to be in the root console [19:14] yeah, Im there. its asking me for a switch... [19:14] hrm, am I wanting to create a new one, or update the current one? === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [19:14] dunno [19:15] updating the current one couldn't hurt [19:15] yeah, I spose things cant get any worse... [19:15] :P [19:15] brb, gonna try it [19:15] computer over, viruses = very yes [19:16] ok, that give the same error message. ill let you know how it goes with creating a new one... [19:19] JontheEchidna: nope. Im going to try force removing the kernel in question, then dpkg --configure -a : does that sound sane to you? [19:19] Riddell: I think the todolist should be re-orged so that the status is on the far right side... like on the old todo list (probly no need to do it for this todo list) but a good idea for the next one... much easier to see what has been done [19:20] go for it [19:21] jussi01_: can't get any worse, I guess [19:26] JontheEchidna: its screwed. Im going to reinstall... sigh. [19:27] * jussi01_ wishes he could just reinstall the linux parts and leave the rest intact... [19:44] [19:51] jussi01_: err, usually you can work around that error by forcibly reinstalling udev and regenerating an initramfs [20:13] Riddell: ping [20:15] hi apachelogger [20:16] Riddell: ahoy, I need you to poke a bit in the packaging issues highlighted by david in his latest mail about translations [20:16] writing a mail right now [20:23] * apachelogger always sends with wrong email address :S [20:23] Riddell: anyway, mail sent and queued in kubuntu-devel ;-) [20:27] I don't see it in the moderation queue [20:28] oh [20:28] autorejected [20:28] bad behaviour :P [20:30] Riddell: sent again [20:30] only way to keep the moderation sane [20:30] Riddell: increase amount of mods :P [20:30] * apachelogger subscribes his gmail address [20:30] actually, if mailman would support alias addresses it would be very useful too [20:32] Riddell: I'll fix up pkg-kde-tools [20:40] uploaded [20:43] anyone know if there is a way to detect (in python) if compositing is turned on? [20:43] or enabled? [20:43] I need to run different sets of code depending on if compositing is on or not [20:45] shtylman: I guess you can query it via dbus from kwin [20:46] lordy... [20:46] shtylman: KWindowSystem also provides a method to check if compositing is enabled [20:46] mgraesslin: :) [20:47] that one also works if you have Compiz [20:49] mgraesslin: worked like a charm [20:50] * apachelogger likes kwindowsystem from now on [20:50] it's awesome :-) [21:17] Riddell: http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/installer_dialog.png [21:17] thoughts? [21:17] that would replace the standard looking dialog that pops up when detecting disks and whatnot... [21:18] (when there is not compositing, it just doesn't have the shadow under it...but is still rounded) [21:21] gah, I'm sick of idiots who tell people to use pulseaudio in #kubuntu for 9.04 :( we are the ones who get the users whining in #amarok later [21:42] shtylman: looks lovely [21:43] Riddell: think so... don't think it takes the re-theming too far? ... I had that concern potentially, but found that this dialog looked better than a standard *window* based dialog [21:43] which now seems to stand out too much... :/ [21:44] if it works I don't see why not [21:44] Kubuntu: apachelogger * r12 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/ (kde.rb lib/orphansparser.rb): (log message trimmed) [21:44] Kubuntu: lib/orphansparser.rb: [21:44] Kubuntu: * listTags(amount=3) to list possible tag names [21:44] Kubuntu: * getRevision(tag) to return revision of tag name [21:44] Kubuntu: * Workaround bug where svn switch to in the way of svn up *shrug* [21:44] Kubuntu: kde.rb: [21:44] true... [21:44] Kubuntu: * Only hardcode revision of previous series' KDE tag [21:44] * apachelogger declares bzr-cia a fail and kills the bot [21:48] Looks like RC3 built on all archs except, of course, armel. [21:49] bah [21:49] networkmanager plamsoid fails to build [21:49] poor icecream cluster worked for nothing :( [21:51] so [21:51] who is going to repair amarok-nightly? [21:51] * shtylman not it [21:52] * vorian needs an arm machine [21:52] * vorian gives apachelogger a big hug [21:52] late birthday hug [21:52] uh, the huggles! [21:52] * apachelogger rehugs vorian [21:52] * apachelogger also hugs shtylman [21:56] digikam and kipi-plugins are in bzr now [22:01] dtchen: Ive just come in and seen that... havent reinstalled yet, Ill give it a try! thanks!! [22:08] ryanakca: about? [22:11] hrm, is this a paper cut bug or something else... When copying, the copying notification popup needs to be expandable to see the full path. [22:11] err paperkut :D [22:13] The armel thing is apparently down to needing a longer timeout to build qt4-x11 on armel. [22:13] It's been requested, so we're close. [22:15] ScottK: can't we just turn off lzma for armel? [22:15] Riddell: lzma is solved. It's something gcc 4.4ish now. [22:16] ScottK: are you familiar with an imx 31 from free scale_ would our arm builds run on it? [22:16] jussi01_: I'm not. NCommander is the one who knows such stuff. [22:17] ScottK: ok then, Ill seek him out... :D [22:17] You already have .... [22:18] Are we in his "likely around" timezone? [22:18] He lives in -0400 [22:18] ok, so hopefully he will turn up soon :) [22:19] its getting close to bed time here... after midnight [22:25] Nightrose: ping poke call [22:25] apachelogger: pong [22:26] Nightrose: am I the best looking dev ever? [22:26] apachelogger: of course [22:26] * apachelogger bzr pushes [22:26] right after fregl [22:26] :D [22:26] biased! [22:27] maybe [22:27] a little [22:28] * apachelogger waits for lp [22:28] Nightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor r63 [22:29] Argument > Config > Default [22:29] most awesome documentation line ever :P [22:30] apachelogger: hehe now if I could use that with git... :/ [22:30] oh [22:30] true [22:30] * Nightrose needs to figure out how to do the whole tagging thing in git [22:30] god damnit [22:31] you know, I told you that I need to refactor it towards that direction :P [22:31] but ye nahd [22:31] what? [22:31] i didn't! [22:31] you did! [22:31] were whining about minor bugs :P [22:32] *lol* for sure [22:32] Nightrose: I suppose git tag is the way to go [22:32] dtchen: you rock my world!!!! THANK YOU!!! [22:32] probably - still needs tarball sorted out [22:33] well, that is easy :P [22:33] * apachelogger is wondering though [22:33] Nightrose: since doc and l10n are in SVN... how would we tag that? [22:33] would need independent tag, or we import into git, which is darn slow and looses history [22:34] Nightrose: for the time being: how about mirroring git master to SVN [22:34] that way you don't have to worry about that kinda stuff for now :P [22:35] no - scripty gets confused by that - amarok dir in svn is being deleted right now [22:35] too bad [22:35] well, then, make your choice [22:35] indepdent tag in KDE SVN or git add po [22:36] the latter i guess [22:36] ok [22:36] not sure though [22:36] Nightrose: well, get it discussed [22:37] needs some input from ian [22:38] anyway, unless I come up with a super awesome design that restructures the libs in a way that they become less dependent on each other and on SVN the best I can do is branch a git version of the script [22:39] maybe have src, l10n and doc as classes with common functions and create srcSVN, l10nSVN and docSVN as implemenations of those [22:40] or create a proxy class around src, l10n and doc and then implement that as svn, probably easier to control frontendwise [22:40] * apachelogger needs to ponder [23:15] Riddell: Yes, just got in, what can I do for you? [23:45] ryanakca: I can't click on any content link below #9... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [23:45] shtylman: known and annoying issue, bug 389233 [23:45] Launchpad bug 389233 in kubuntu-website "[wiki] title underlines overlap table of contents" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/389233 [23:46] ryanakca: cool, just making sure :) [23:46] Riddell: Dell mini 10v has a multimedia key to control wifi on/off and seems to get a reasonable keyboard event. Any thoughts on what package should deal with that? [23:46] It's currently not working [23:47] network manager applet should [23:48] in a perfect world, I doubt there's any code for it [23:50] Riddell: is the network manager getting love from sebas this cycle? [23:52] shtylman: from wstephenson it is, although no guarantee it'll ever be ready [23:52] heh === asac_ is now known as asac [23:54] and what about that giant block of artwork todo we have untouched/unassigned? [23:54] is that for later? [23:56] oh...and do we know yet if our version of oo is with the kde4 patches? [23:56] those have a one or two small bugs in the file picker...but beyond that we can press forward and remove kde3 libs I think