[00:00] <penguin42> bcurtiswx: Is this not the right place to ask for things like which package something should be reported against or help with the politics of a bug report?
[00:01] <bcurtiswx> penguin42: this is
[00:01] <penguin42> ok
[00:08] <penguin42> in that case can anyone suggest what to do with my bug 404670   should I make this against gnome-settings-daemon - but that doesn't sound right either
[00:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 404670 in pulseaudio "[karmic] Can't reload alsa modules because pulse won't die" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404670
[00:16] <yofel> penguin42: well, you could try it and see what they tell you.
[00:17] <penguin42> yofel: Try which thing - the restarting the settings daemon and volume daemon?
[00:18] <yofel> penguin42: I meant the bug assignment, but if you find out how to restart them I'm interested, since killing gnome-settings-daemon seems kind of impossible...
[00:18] <yofel> it restarts immediately
[00:19] <penguin42> no, I managed to kill gnome-settings-daemon - it didn't restart; and that did let me reload alsa - but not everything was happy when I restarted the settings daemon later - so I'm wondering where to assign the bug if it's not pulseaudio
[00:20] <penguin42> I could assign it to gnome-settings but it doesn't really seem that's necessarily there problem - but I do wonder wtf it is using pulse and why it restarts the daemon
[00:21] <yofel> penguin42: isn't the settings daemon spawning pulse for the volume applet?
[00:21] <penguin42> wouldn't the volume applet do that itself? All of the rest of the pulse clients seem to start pulse themselves
[00:24] <yofel> penguin42: not sure, you could try to get a hold of dtchen when he's around, I think he knew quite a lot about alsa, pulse etc.
[00:24] <penguin42> yeh
[00:25] <penguin42> Chris may be right that it's not a bug in pulse - but I'm not 100% sure - how does pulse get restarted; is it via some library it provides?
[00:26] <yofel> no idea, by default it's set to run on a per-session basis and not a system daemon
[00:26] <yofel> but I don't know how that works
[00:26] <penguin42> yes
[02:47] <Sickki> any ideas how to fix karmic koala installation failing with those error messages? http://pastebin.com/m6b389a43
[02:50] <virtuald> sickki: #ubuntu+1
[02:50] <Sickki> yup
[17:13] <kklimonda> hey
[17:14] <BUGabundo> ola kklimonda
[17:14] <thekorn> hey kklimonda
[17:14] <thekorn> and BUGabundo
[17:14] <chrisccoulson> hey kklimonda
[17:14] <chrisccoulson> and BUGabundo and thekorn
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> ;)
[17:15] <BUGabundo> hey thekorn chrisccoulson
[17:15] <thekorn> hehe chrisccoulson
[17:15]  * BUGabundo echos: define recursion 
[17:15] <thekorn> now, let's do this for all other user in this channel
[17:16] <BUGabundo> http://www.google.com/search?q=recursion
[17:38] <MT-> If a bug is a duplicate of another - what should happen with that bug? Should it be invalid, left as is, or?
[17:43] <yofel> MT-: mark it as a duplicate of the other bug
[17:45] <MT-> yofel: I meant with the status - do i change it, or will launchpad do that later?
[17:46] <yofel> MT-: lp will take care of that after you mark it as a duplicate
[17:47] <MT-> thanks
[18:49] <dajomu> yofel: still online?
[19:00] <yofel> dajomu: yes
[19:02] <BUGabundo> why?
[19:02] <BUGabundo> should he be sleeping?
[21:35] <bcurtiswx> what irc client do most of you use
[21:35] <BUGabundo> pidgin
[21:36] <BUGabundo> ok ok its not a irc client
[21:36] <BUGabundo> but suits my needs
[21:36] <bcurtiswx> yeah, i do too.. but it seems the lacking full support for IRC is because they don't want it to be a main IRC client
[21:37] <yofel> irssi now, but quassel is also nice for running it on a server and connecting to it, if you don't need that use XChat
[21:37] <bcurtiswx> anything special about irssi?
[21:37] <yofel> well, more like quassel is better for kde and xchat is better for gnome
[21:37] <yofel> bcurtiswx: very nice terminal irc client ;)
[23:38] <BUGabundo> ogasawara_: Jul 26 23:32:02 blubug kernel: [   97.510931] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffff813f29af>]  [<ffffffff813f29af>] dbs_cpufreq_notifier+0x1f/0x40 http://paste.ubuntu.com/234127/
[23:49] <BUGabundo> can't I just clone a bug??
[23:49] <BUGabundo> I need to file 3 very similar kernel bugs
[23:49] <BUGabundo> and I'm forced to run apport everytime
[23:51] <BUGabundo> ogasawara_: bug 405066 and bug 405063
[23:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 405066 in linux "Pid: 746, comm: kondemand/1 Tainted: P           2.6.31-3-generic #19-Ubuntu S37S" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405066
[23:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 405063 in linux "Jul 26 23:28:11 blubug kernel: [24412.566286] Pid: 2893, comm: modem-manager Tainted: P      D    2.6.31-4-generic #22-Ubuntu S37S" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405063