[00:24] <jimisrvrox> SiDi: you around?
[00:27] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: yes
[00:27] <jimisrvrox> cool
[00:27] <jimisrvrox> did I tell you when I did down/up on the iwconfig that my system froze?
[00:27] <SiDi> Ah
[00:28] <SiDi> This sounds like a wifi driver issue
[00:28] <SiDi> aptitude search rt25 please
[00:29] <jimisrvrox> hrm well heres the other thing turned on the pc the other day and it told me it had a CMOS checksum error but I dont think it has anything to do with it
[00:29] <SiDi> And tell me which has a 'i' in fron of the name
[00:29]  * SiDi doesnt know what CMOS is :|
[00:29] <jimisrvrox> ive got tons of driver files but havent a clue as to whats what heh
[00:30] <SiDi> [01:28] <SiDi> aptitude search rt25 please ;)
[00:30] <SiDi> Type this : aptitude search rt25
[00:30] <SiDi> in a console * And tell me if one of the two entries has a 'i' in front of the name
[00:31] <jimisrvrox> shows nothing on this box
[00:31] <jimisrvrox> but if you asking me to do it on my other box that has no net?
[00:32] <th0r> SiDi: cmos is where the bootup bios is installed....could indicate a hardware problem in the computer
[00:33] <th0r> SiDi: cmos is the technology of the eeprom for the bios
[00:33] <SiDi> okies
[00:33] <SiDi> jimisrvrox: on the box that has the internet problem yes
[00:33] <jimisrvrox> yup
[00:36] <jimisrvrox> cpu is running at 53C and the CMOS error only came up once but when I just rebooted it did not come up
[00:39] <th0r> jimisrvrox: the cmos error might have been just a glitch...or it could have been an early warning. Just keep an eye out for repetitions in the future
[00:40] <jimisrvrox> 10-4
[00:40] <jimisrvrox> th0r: are you good with wireless stuff?
[00:41] <jimisrvrox> last I remember that I had this problem is it ended up being a rather easy fix..problem is I did not document any of it so im here again..
[00:41] <jimisrvrox> this time im doc'ing it
[00:42] <th0r> jimisrvrox: not really
[00:43] <jimisrvrox> damn
[00:55] <jimisrvrox> alright then th0r gots me another ? bsides my net connection..one is I have my usb formatted as fat32 to work with windows so not suprisingliy when I try to copy something from my linux box onto my usb drive it tells me that its a read=only file system...how can I format my drive to where I can use it in both win and linux so that I can put some files from my *nix box on there right now. I...
[00:55] <jimisrvrox> ...have access to a windows box if it makes it any easier...
[00:57] <th0r> jimisrvrox: the fat32 should be fine. How big is the drive?
[00:59] <jimisrvrox> big enough to cover what I need..
[01:00] <jimisrvrox> but it tells me that its readonly so I cant for whatever reason copy the stuff over..
[01:00] <th0r> I use such usb drives all the time without problems. You might have to add them to fstab if you aren't running the gnome file system with xfce...try adding a line to fstab just to see if it works
[01:01] <jimisrvrox> i run gnome
[01:01] <jimisrvrox> but its beyond me as to why I cant seem to copy the stuff..
[01:01] <th0r> jimisrvrox: then the mount should be automatic....but I have heard of that problem before...give me a sec
[01:03] <jimisrvrox> it mounts and everything just fine
[01:03] <jimisrvrox> I cna even cut/paste into a hdd from the usb but I cannot go from my linux fs to the usb
[01:05] <th0r> jimisrvrox: do a mount command and see what options the usb drive is mounted with
[01:05] <jimisrvrox> ok brb
[01:11] <jimisrvrox> ok all I did was type in mount
[01:11] <jimisrvrox> and I got something like rw, nosuid, blah blah blah is that what youre asking about?
[01:11] <th0r> yeah....the rw means the drive is mounted read/write
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> ok so you need to know what the other parameters are?
[01:12] <th0r> if it was mounted read only it would be ro
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> oh ok
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> thats what I was thinking myself
[01:12] <th0r> not really....just wanted to check that
[01:12] <jimisrvrox> but when I go to properties it tells me that its a vfat
[01:12] <th0r> jimisrvrox: might also be mounted with the wrong permissions....does it say 'users'
[01:13] <th0r> jimisrvrox: yeah..vfat is fat32
[01:13] <jimisrvrox> said something about permissions could not be determined
[01:13] <th0r> pastebin the mount command output
[01:13] <jimisrvrox> when I clicked on the permissions tab in the properties
[01:16] <jimisrvrox> I cant..
[01:16] <jimisrvrox> I have no net connection on that box
[01:16] <jimisrvrox> Id have to write the shit down
[01:17] <th0r> jimisrvrox: ok....checking google I found a web page that says they fixed the problem by reformatting the usb drive....
[01:17] <th0r> jeez! just found out I can't copy and paste a url from opera!
[01:18] <jimisrvrox> ok thats fine by me..already cut/pasted whatever the hell I wanted..
[01:18] <jimisrvrox> but how would you format the drive in linux?
[01:19] <jimisrvrox> bc i am no cli expert..but I am learning some in a linux class right now using suse sles9 server and it sucks bc I do not learn anything about the desktop type stuff and inztead of helping us the stupid ass teacher tells us to go to google..
[01:22] <th0r> jeez...darn marina wifi
[01:23] <th0r> jimisrvrox: you still there?
[01:23] <jimisrvrox> yeah
[01:24] <th0r> the url I had indicated that reformatting the usb drive in windows might solve the read only issue...might be worth a try.
[01:24] <th0r> I have seen the problem before...had it myself...but don't remember what i did to fix it
[01:28] <jimisrvrox> heh sounds like me with the damn wireless
[01:28] <jimisrvrox> thing of it is when you format it in windows you have to format it as a windows FS
[01:34] <th0r> jimisrvrox: that is oki....use fat32...it will work fine in linux as vfat.
[01:34] <th0r> jimisrvrox: in fact, I would prefer fat32...so whatever you put on the drive is readable by ANY computer (except mac of course)
[01:36] <th0r> jimisrvrox: I run only linux on my computer, but would still format a usb drive as vfat
[01:50] <th0r> jimisrvrox: need to call it a night here. Hope the reformat works for you...good luck with the wireless
[04:54] <tavelram_> Im about to install xubuntu 9.04, but id like to netboot via grub instead of burning the iso. Where can I get the netboot installer without having to download the iso and extract them manually?
[04:54] <tavelram_> Could/should i use the ubuntu netboot instead?
[04:56] <forces> netboot?
[04:56] <forces> you mean netinst?
[04:56] <tavelram_> probably, not familiar with (x)ubuntu.
[04:56] <tavelram_> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd
[04:56] <forces> but the netinst is an ISO too
[04:56] <forces> and you need to burn it
[04:56] <tavelram_> ok, then no :)
[04:57] <forces> use unetbooting
[04:57] <forces> you need an ISO image, the use an USB to boot from it
[04:57] <forces> then install ubuntu
[04:57] <tavelram_> that would be even mor overkill
[04:59] <tavelram_> forces, how similiar are ubuntu and xubuntu?
[04:59] <forces> the DE makes the difference
[04:59] <forces> ubuntu uses gnome and xubuntu xfce
[05:00] <tavelram_> yeah, but do they share the same boot process etc?
[05:00] <forces> yes
[05:00] <forces> the install process is the same in both
[05:00] <forces> in all
[05:00] <tavelram_> forces, ok, so I can use this guide for the entire process? https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd
[05:00] <forces> (x)(k)(edu)ubuntu(studio)
[05:01] <forces> yes
[05:01] <tavelram_> ok, so is there anywhere I can browse the 9.04 online?
[05:02] <tavelram_> all i want is the files netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz and netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/linux, without having to download the whole iso.
[05:05] <forces> the netinst ISO has like 8MB
[05:05] <tavelram_> oh, ok.
[05:08] <tavelram_> nevermind, found the files i was looking for.
[05:09] <tavelram_> i might have followed an unneccesarry symlink or something, but this is a kickass path :p   /pub/os/Linux/distributions/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/386/ubuntu-installer/i386
[05:18] <gobux> I'm having problems using the nvidia-xlg-71 package with xubuntu 9.04.  Does anyone know if this still works?
[05:21] <gobux> sorry, that's nvidia-glx-71
[05:25] <psycho_oreos> sounds like a driver for older chipsets
[06:04] <matir>  /away just when u think u r alone, take a look around
[06:05] <matir> sorry floks
[06:08] <n2diy> matir: how could you ever think you were alone?
[06:31] <matir> i dont . people do
[09:31] <hosoka> hello everyone
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> ih
[09:31] <hosoka> If I minimize my Firefox where does this go actually ? I cannot find this nowhere.
[09:31] <hosoka> In Ubuntu it was easy to find but in Xubunt bit different.
[09:32] <pteague> should still be able to alt+tab to it
[09:33] <hosoka> ok, tried it out and it works. Great.
[09:33] <hosoka> bye
[09:33] <pteague> although if it's not showing up on the panel & it's not in alt+tab it may have crashed... in which case you can open a terminal & `ps aux | grep firefox` to see if it's even running
[09:34] <hosoka> found it with alt+tab
[09:35] <hosoka> I now do see it on the panel. But slightly behind a active program currently running.
[09:35] <hosoka> thanks for the tip.
[12:33] <mikubuntu> whats the significance of this msg? : W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic_2.6.24.18-24.1_i386.deb
[12:33] <mikubuntu>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[12:34] <vinnl> mikubuntu, that means that the server you get your packages from is (temporarily, I presume) down
[12:34] <vinnl> You could try selecting a different mirror though Applications->System->Software Sources
[12:35] <mikubuntu> (after a reboot on my friends machine) hes freaking out
[12:35] <vinnl> Oh wait, it's not down for m
[12:35] <vinnl> *me
[12:35] <vinnl> Does he still have an internet connection?
[12:35] <mikubuntu> he just sent me the email with the error message
[12:35] <mikubuntu> i think thats his only comp
[12:36] <mikubuntu> lemme call him
[16:27] <hexbase> Hi
[16:28] <vinnl> !hi
[16:28] <hexbase> When i want to reboot, xfce says i dont have permission for hal.powermanagement or something like that
[16:33] <nikolam> hex ctrl alt backspace , then ctrl alt delete
[16:33] <hexbase> when i do that?
[16:34] <vinnl> nikolam, wouldn't it better to find the cause of the problem?
[16:35] <nikolam> vinnl, it happens sometimes to me to. My cause is xfapplet staying in memory i think
[16:35] <vinnl> hexbase, do you happen to know if you use xfapplet?
[16:35] <nikolam> when xfapplet is killed, user can log in ok
[16:36] <hexbase> vinnl, i dont know
[16:36] <vinnl> Then you probably don't :)
[16:38] <hexbase> vinnl, no i dont have it
[16:39] <nikolam> hexbase, you can go to console with ctrl alt F2
[16:39] <nikolam> and see what processes are active Before login to xfce and after problem with unable to restart from xfce
[16:40] <nikolam> type ps -A | grep xf   before log to xfce
[16:41] <nikolam> so system refuse to restart -> ctrl alt backspace -> ctrl alt F2 ->log in -> ps -A  | grep xf
[16:41] <nikolam> see if you can see xf* something
[17:22] <ianMac> hello, I have a ibook g4 running osx 10.3, I partitioned the HD using jaunty live and now I cant get back into osx.... any ideas on how to fix it?
[17:22] <ianMac> I have a ibook g4 running osx 10.3, I partitioned the HD using jaunty live and now I cant get back into osx.... any ideas on how to fix it?
[17:23] <vinnl> ianMac, did you also install Xubuntu after partitioning it? And are you sure you preserved the OS X partition during partitioning?
[17:23] <ianMac> I did, Im in xubuntu now
[17:24] <ianMac> I used the xubuntu partition tool during install
[17:24] <vinnl> OK, ehm, could you install Gnome Partition Editor to find out whether your OSX partitions are still there for sure?
[17:24] <ianMac> sure, Im pretty new to linux distros, can you tell me where I can get that?
[17:26] <TheSheep> system->synaptic package manager
[17:26] <TheSheep> and search for that
[17:26] <ianMac> cool thanks
[17:27] <vinnl> Or Applications->Add/Remove :)
[17:38] <ianMac> okay, the partition editor and it says it cant mount "machintosh HD" because the enclosing drive for the volume is locked
[17:39] <vinnl> Hmm... Could it be that you did not shut down your computer correctly before you installed Xubuntu?
[17:40] <ianMac> honestly I dont remember
[17:40] <ianMac> could be because I had a hard time installing xubuntu and had to shut down from the xubuntu install several times by holding down the power button
[17:41] <vinnl> OK well it seems like it might not matter, I think we can conclude that it is still there
[17:41] <vinnl> When you boot your computer, do you see something like "Press Esc for boot menu"?
[17:41] <ianMac> yea it shows 19.84gb for it
[17:42] <ianMac> no it takes me to yaboot and asks me to choose between osx or linux or cd, when I choose osx it shows a file blinking to the mac logo and then a question mark
[17:42] <ianMac> I tried holding option after the boot chime and it only gave linux as a choice to boot
[17:43] <vinnl> Hmm, I don't really know anything about yaboot and the only thing I know of the question mark is that it means something went wrong booting
[17:44] <vinnl> Which might after all have to do with the error you got in Gparted
[17:44] <ianMac> I guess I need to find out how to unlock the mac drive now
[17:44] <vinnl> Does gparted also show a suggestion for resolving it?
[17:44] <vinnl> I would guess a disk check but I have no idea how that works on OS X disks
[17:45] <ianMac> no, it just shows a caution sign next to fiel system that says uknown
[17:45] <vinnl> :S
[17:45] <ianMac> ya, thats what I said lol
[17:45] <vinnl> And in the right-click menu there's also no "Check disk for errors" or something?
[17:46] <ianMac> lemme see
[17:48] <ianMac> okay I double clicked it and it says warning unable to detect file system: possible reasons- file system is damaged, file system is unknown to Gparted, there is no file system available
[17:48] <vinnl> Hmm, the file system for OS X was HFS, right?
[17:49] <ianMac> I think, but Im not sure, its whatever is default for osx 10.3
[17:49] <vinnl> It says here Gparted can check HFS+ but not HFS
[17:49] <vinnl> Yeah well I have little to no knowledge about OS X :S
[17:49] <ianMac> hda3, it says it up top
[17:49] <vinnl> That's the name of the device, not the filesystem
[17:49] <vinnl> Hmm :S
[17:49] <ianMac> lol, my bad
[17:50] <vinnl> You might try to see if there's an OS X support channel and whether they can help you there
[17:50] <ianMac> k thanks anyway, I made some progress, at least I know its still there
[17:50] <vinnl> Yeah let's hope all the data on there is still intact :S
[17:51] <ianMac> yea, if not I guess I'll just have to do a new install
[17:51] <ianMac> hey, whats the best flash plugin for ppc?
[17:52] <vinnl> Ehm, I believe you had to fuss around with nspluginwrapper but I'm not sure
[17:52] <vinnl> !flash
[17:52] <vinnl> !ppc
[17:52] <vinnl> Oh, ubottu's not here :(
[17:53] <vinnl> ianMac, ah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Flash%20for%20AMD64%20and%20PPC
[18:02] <ianMac> hey vinnl, r u still here?
[18:02] <vinnl> ianMac, yep
[18:03] <ianMac> friggin battery died, and for some reason xubuntu is freezing on wake up
[18:03] <vinnl> Wake up as in fresh boot, or did you hibernate of suspend?
[18:03] <ianMac> anyway, any suggestions on a good flash plugin for ppc?
[18:03] <vinnl> Because the latter is known to often have problems
[18:03] <ianMac> hibernate of suspend
[18:03] <vinnl> *or suspend, sorry
 ianMac, ah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Flash%20for%20AMD64%20and%20PPC
[18:05] <ianMac> cool, I'll check it out, thats next on my list
[18:06] <ianMac> thx for your help vinnl
[18:06] <ianMac> gg
[18:06] <vinnl> yw :)
[19:33] <dkkong> Is there a way to make a bootable backup of my entire Xubuntu system (desktop settings, etc)? I've tried using RemasterSys and it says the image is too big for a DVD. I have an empty external harddrive I could use.
[19:35] <vidd> dkkong, why not simply install on that drive, and copy all the folders and files from your working to backup?
[19:36] <dkkong> Like do a new installation to the external, and just copy the system to the main drive? Would that make it bootable?
[19:37] <vidd> dkkong, the install makes it bootable....
[19:37] <vinnl> Ibelieve there was one other than RemasterSys but I can't recall its name