[00:00] <arand> iddo: or if you do the autoremove afterwards, then ff-3.0 will be pulled and that should free a bigger chunk
[00:00] <iddo> ok
[00:01] <BUGabundo> and xul
[00:01] <iddo> i wonder if i should, im using google-chrome only so far
[00:03] <arand> iddo: well, if you can live with a rather buggy, no-java-flash-etc.-support but rather fast, browser, I guess chromium would work...
[00:04] <iddo> flash works ok
[00:04] <iddo> would do u mean no java?
[00:04] <iddo> isn't gmail etc. java?
[00:04] <BluesKaj> chromium is ok actually and if you need plugins they can be enabled from the cli
[00:04] <arand> iddo: BluesKaj: wha? I'm behind apparently...
[00:06] <BUGabundo> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=21299 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/405070
[00:06] <BUGabundo> iddo: no. gmail is javascript
[00:06] <BUGabundo> name sounds similar but VERY diff
[00:07] <iddo> hmm maybe u r right about no java
[00:07] <iddo> i tried some websites in chrome
[00:07] <Shane_Fagan> JS is different
[00:08] <iddo> so how to enable java ?
[00:08] <BluesKaj> arand,  check out #chromium
[00:13] <yofel> good night folks
[00:13] <BUGabundo> hey yofel
[00:13] <BUGabundo> or is it bye ?
[00:13] <yofel> it's bye for now :P
[00:14] <yofel> mv $ME /dev/bed
[00:16] <fagan> Hehe look the Apollo 11 source code http://code.google.com/p/virtualagc/source/browse/trunk/Comanche055/?r=258
[00:30] <alteregoa> its fortran?
[00:31] <fagan> Nope its assembly
[00:32] <fagan> Very early assembly
[00:32] <alteregoa> what kind of computer?
[00:32] <alteregoa> discrete integrated circuits ?
[00:33] <fagan> I dont have a clue, id say its something very primitive
[00:33] <alteregoa> yeah something like pong
[00:33] <fagan> haha
[00:33] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[00:34] <fagan> Well it was like the 60s
[00:37] <BUGabundo> fagan: like TRON ? http://ante-estreias.blogs.sapo.pt/231191.html
[00:37] <fagan> Tron never saw it
[00:52] <drs305> Yeah, anyone knows you only need THREE carrots....
[00:52] <alteregoa> yeah jack jazzrabbit or something
[00:52] <drs305> nevermind... doh
[00:53] <BUGabundo> joke FAIL ?
[00:53] <drs305> Tab fail, wrong channel  ;-)
[00:53] <BUGabundo> aahahahah
[01:42] <LLStarks> what is multilib?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> !multilib
[01:49] <alteregoa> a spastic binary
[01:49] <BluesKaj> !info multilib
[01:50] <BluesKaj> ffft , of course it doesn't ..it's a multi library of some sort i bet
[01:50] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:28] <richardcavell> is it just me or does it take ages to reload update manager's package information on karmic?
[02:28] <billybigrigger> what mirror are you using?
[02:29] <billybigrigger> Fetched 10.1MB in 13s (731kB/s)
[02:29] <richardcavell> billybigrigger: I'm using the main server because the Australian one isn't up to date
[02:29] <richardcavell> In any case it has to download about 10 megs
[02:29] <billybigrigger> yeah, i have ~10 ppa's in there
[02:30] <billybigrigger> i don't know what your sources.list is like
[02:30] <richardcavell> all I've got is medibuntu
[02:30] <richardcavell> It's as though instead of just downloading the new stuff, it downloads the whole package info again
[02:31] <billybigrigger> how long does $ sudo apt-get update take?
[02:32] <alteregoa> 20 seconds
[02:32] <billybigrigger> what's wrong with that?
[02:32] <alteregoa> change your mirror
[02:32] <richardcavell> okay it only took 30 seconds for me that time but I only just downloaded them 10 minutes ago
[02:33] <richardcavell> it took about 5 minutes on a high speed ADSL connection 10 minutes ago
[02:33] <alteregoa> yeah, they are updated frequently today
[02:33] <billybigrigger> you can change your mirror so something closer to you, but might take a few hours or days to sync the latest updates
[02:33] <alteregoa> you can get up to 100 new packets per weekend
[02:35] <richardcavell> alright, I just changed my server to the Australian one
[02:36] <richardcavell> I'm keen to update because I get quite a lot of app crashes
[02:36] <billybigrigger> how long does it take to update?
[02:36] <richardcavell> and I want them to fix things like the login window
[02:36] <billybigrigger> login window?
[02:36] <richardcavell> billybigrigger: About 10 minutes.  It has to download 10 megabytes
[02:36] <richardcavell> There is no login window on Karmic
[02:36] <billybigrigger> 10 minutes? from the aus mirror?
[02:36] <richardcavell> gdm
[02:37] <richardcavell> 10 minutes from the main server
[02:37] <billybigrigger> how long from your local mirror?
[02:37] <alteregoa> karmic has a good karma
[02:37] <richardcavell> I'm doing it now
[02:37] <billybigrigger> and what bug are you experiencing?
[02:37] <billybigrigger> im pretty sure everyone using karmic has a gdm login window
[02:37] <billybigrigger> if you don't you should file a bug against it
[02:37] <richardcavell> I understand it will take ages if it's the first time it has downloaded the package information, but after that it should only download the new stuff
[02:38] <richardcavell> billybigrigger: how do you get to your login window?  If I select log off, it logs off and then logs straight back in again
[02:38] <billybigrigger> well you need to file a bug for that
[02:38] <billybigrigger> logout/login works fine, and this would be the first time i've heard anything about that problem
[02:38] <richardcavell> billybigrigger: so do you have a login window?
[02:38] <billybigrigger> yes
[02:39] <richardcavell> So you're using Karmic and if you log out it gives you a login window
[02:40] <richardcavell> actually I do have a login window now
[02:40] <richardcavell> you reminded me
[02:40] <richardcavell> but it was an update, I downloaded it within the last week
[02:40] <richardcavell> I have filed plenty of app crash reports with launchpad.net
[02:40] <billybigrigger> yes there's a login window, i just confirmed it
[02:41] <billybigrigger> you should file a bug
[02:41] <billybigrigger> since when did this start happening?
[02:41] <richardcavell> billybigrigger: when I first installed alpha 3 it had no login window
[02:41] <billybigrigger> ???
[02:41] <billybigrigger> really
[02:41] <richardcavell> yes
[02:41] <richardcavell> and then I downloaded it via update manager
[02:41] <billybigrigger> last gdm update was 3 days ago, and i don't seen any fixes for anything related to your problem
[02:41] <billybigrigger> so you should file a bug
[02:42] <richardcavell> I've already got about 10 bugs on launchpad at the moment
[02:42] <richardcavell> they'll think i'm making them up :)
[02:42] <billybigrigger> nope
[02:42] <billybigrigger> file away
[02:42] <richardcavell> anyway I changed my Software Sources to download from the Australian server and I'm downloading now
[02:43] <billybigrigger> what does this say...
[02:43] <billybigrigger> $ apt-cache policy gdm
[02:43] <richardcavell> hang on a sec I'm reloading package information
[02:43] <billybigrigger> fire up a new tab?
[02:44] <richardcavell> See, it's downloading a 5 meg file right now
[02:44] <richardcavell> gdm:
[02:44] <richardcavell>   Installed: 2.27.4-0ubuntu6
[02:44] <richardcavell>   Candidate: 2.27.4-0ubuntu6
[02:44] <richardcavell>   Version table:
[02:44] <richardcavell>  *** 2.27.4-0ubuntu6 0
[02:44] <richardcavell>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:44] <billybigrigger> use pastebin next time
[02:44] <richardcavell> ok
[02:44] <billybigrigger> just needed to know what installed version you had
[02:44] <billybigrigger> include your installed version when filing that bug
[02:45] <billybigrigger> also the output of uname -a might help a little more
[02:46] <billybigrigger> actually
[02:46] <billybigrigger> just a simple $ ubuntu-bug gdm might work