| ares4you | hy | 10:26 |
|---|---|---|
| yofel | hi ares4you | 10:27 |
| ares4you | can I repair my broken network without internet connection ( my internet connection worked fine before last update ) | 10:27 |
| yofel | broken as in? NM won't connect to wireless? NM tells you you don't have any network cards? | 10:29 |
| ares4you | wired network : davicom 9601 to fast ethernet adapter | 10:31 |
| ares4you | this in the problem | 10:32 |
| ares4you | I recive one msg: network manager is not working | 10:32 |
| ares4you | before last update my network manager worked fine! | 10:33 |
| yofel | tried to restart it? 'sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart' | 10:33 |
| ares4you | no | 10:34 |
| ares4you | I have restarted my laptop | 10:34 |
| yofel | you should also check if you get any errors in dmesg or /var/log/syslog | 10:34 |
| ares4you | ok | 10:35 |
| ares4you | can you send me metwork manager package to avoid future crashes | 10:43 |
| geser | I've upgraded my notebook to karmic and now after the login, I've only my desktop background, no panels, etc. has someone an idea what I've broken? | 10:43 |
| yofel | ares4you: As I don't know *why* your network doesn't work I can't help you much | 10:43 |
| ares4you | ok | 10:44 |
| ares4you | a from where can I download an older version of network manage? | 10:45 |
| ares4you | manager` | 10:45 |
| yofel | ares4you: you could save the dmesg and the /var/log/syslog files somewhere and pastebin them with your working connection | 10:46 |
| yofel | like that we might be able to help you | 10:46 |
| yofel | as to where to get the older packages I don't know, sry | 10:46 |
| yofel | geser: not sure, if right click still works you could add a launcher to start 'gnome-panel' or 'nautilus' | 10:48 |
| yofel | or ask again later when the others come back | 10:48 |
| ares4you | now is ok! I have reinstalled my ubuntu and now I am running 9.04 not 9.10 | 10:50 |
| geser | yofel: right-clicking doesn't work, but I can start the gnome-panel from the normal terminal and it appears. I've also to start metacity else the windows don't have any titlebar. | 10:50 |
| geser | yofel: I've also tried to create a new user so see if it's in my user settings, but with the same result | 10:50 |
| yofel | geser: any information in your ~/.xsession-errors ? | 10:52 |
| geser | yofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/235070/ | 10:55 |
| tbaxter | can someone help me with how to change the graphics drivers from fglrx to the open source from the command line? I just went to Karmic Alpha 3 and now can't get x. =/ | 10:56 |
| ares4you | back on testing! ;) | 10:58 |
| ares4you | bye bye!!! | 10:59 |
| yofel | tbaxter: remove the 'Driver "radeon"' or something like that from you /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 11:00 |
| yofel | geser: seems to me like gnome-session-daemon fails to load | 11:01 |
| kkszysiu | hello. Where I can change GDM settings? | 11:01 |
| yofel | kkszysiu: by hand, there is no GUI config tool for the new gdm yet | 11:02 |
| geser | yofel: I've checked and it's running | 11:03 |
| geser | yofel: I get my custom wallpaper and network-manager asks me for my keyring password but that's all what happens | 11:03 |
| yofel | geser: it fails to load at least one module as seen in line 2, as to *which* module I don't know | 11:03 |
| geser | kkszysiu: there is no GUI for it yet | 11:04 |
| geser | yofel: will try to find out what it is | 11:04 |
| om26er | no cd writer is working from live image | 11:27 |
| om26er | nautilus shows blank cd but brasero says there is not cd | 11:28 |
| om26er | help?? | 11:28 |
| om26er | i am using karmic alpha3 | 11:28 |
| om26er | bazhang: now? | 11:31 |
| bazhang | om26er, have you tried others | 11:31 |
| om26er | yes xcd roast | 11:32 |
| om26er | and gnomebaker | 11:32 |
| mac_v | does anyone know how to prevent the policykit authorizations from prompting each startup *but* still allow access to drives? the authorizations settings dont seem to have any effect | 11:32 |
| bazhang | om26er, like gnomebaker | 11:32 |
| darthanubis | when using an alpha it is assumed you can HELP yourself? | 11:33 |
| bazhang | om26er, what about burning from nautilus, does that work | 11:33 |
| om26er | nautilus shows that there is a blank cd-r but the writing software say there is no drive | 11:33 |
| bazhang | om26er, hmm may be a bug | 11:33 |
| om26er | but that again goes to brasero and an error occurs | 11:33 |
| om26er | any1 else????? | 11:34 |
| drs305 | om26er: Not regarding the cd, but did you get your Grub2 issue solved from the other day? | 11:35 |
| om26er | no | 11:35 |
| drs305 | If you remind me what it was perhaps I could help. | 11:36 |
| om26er | but now i only use karmic as live | 11:36 |
| drs305 | ok | 11:37 |
| om26er | but still thanx drs305 | 11:38 |
| drs305 | :-) | 11:38 |
| om26er | what are the modules for cd image writing | 11:41 |
| om26er | there might be some files that i need 2 install?? | 11:41 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy Folks | 12:28 |
| yofel | hi BluesKaj | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | hey yofel , greetings from the great wet north-ontario ...nothing but rain here for most of July | 12:30 |
| yofel | heh, geetings from the (today) sunny southern germany, although the weather is usually pretty rainy here too -.- | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | I'm up early due to thunderstorms ...can't sleep :P | 12:31 |
| |ns|nR8 | services. gives +e |ns|nR8 | 13:05 |
| |ns|nR8 | yayy | 13:05 |
| Guest6082 | my air card quit working after upgrade yesterday...any thoughts | 14:29 |
| yofel | Guest6082: what card? | 14:30 |
| Guest6082 | sprint sierra 595 | 14:30 |
| Guest6082 | it was working but now just locks up my laptop | 14:31 |
| yofel | no idea, sry | 14:31 |
| Guest6082 | anyone else using air card? | 14:31 |
| bmunger | i have one but i havent tried it on 9.10 | 14:32 |
| Guest6082 | i was loving 9.10 but I know things brings on new versions | 14:33 |
| Guest6082 | it will work eventually | 14:33 |
| bmunger | im going to test my merlin s720 | 14:33 |
| Guest6082 | anyone having problem with broadband cards | 14:39 |
| idyle | My auto hiding side panel won't unhide! When I mouse over it, I just see a tiny sliver of it, like it's empty, and can't click on it or configure it or anything! | 14:50 |
| idyle | I'm using kubuntu karmic, and it's awesome except for this! | 14:50 |
| oldude67 | anyone have a suggestion on how i can get my vbox running, says to install the ose-source package but its installed. also says something about generic kernel headers but wont let me have the ones for -2 kerenl? | 15:28 |
| benste | oldude67: I'installing vbox guest in karmic too atm | 15:39 |
| benste | if you're isntalling HOST system I would advise to simply add the sun apt to your sources list | 15:39 |
| benste | and install not the OSE but the normal 3.0.2 | 15:40 |
| peeps[work] | packages.ubuntu.com is down :-( | 15:59 |
| peeps[work] | i'm trying to find out if Karmic will have version 3 of awesome window manager | 16:00 |
| yofel | apt-cache policy awesome: Candidate: 3.3.1-1 ;) | 16:01 |
| bazhang | !find awesome | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Found: awesome, awesome-extra | 16:01 |
| bazhang | !info awesome | 16:01 |
| ubottu | awesome (source: awesome): highly configurable, next generation framework window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-1 (karmic), package size 341 kB, installed size 2140 kB | 16:01 |
| bazhang | peeps[work], ^^ | 16:01 |
| maxb | rmadison is also a handy tool | 16:02 |
| Pici | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi <-- | 16:02 |
| Pici | I also made a firefox search plugin thingy for that | 16:02 |
| mofo | hi . anyone knows how to change login window (gdm) in ubuntu 9.10 ? | 16:10 |
| yofel | mofo: there is no GUI config tool for the new gdm yet, so you'll have to edit the config files | 16:11 |
| mofo | and where do i do that ? i looked up in usr/share/gdm | 16:12 |
| mofo | i found old themes from 9.04 | 16:12 |
| === mofo is now known as ubuntu9-10-user | ||
| === Moult_ is now known as Moult | ||
| oldude67 | vbox is kicking my arse...ugh | 16:32 |
| oldude67 | how do i get the system to update to the 2.6.31-4 kernel its installed and is in the update-grub but doesnt show in grub menu when i boot? | 16:34 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys the kde updates wont allow me to login to kde any more | 16:35 |
| oldude67 | how do i fix this? http://pastebin.com/d3dbf2863 | 16:44 |
| yofel | oldude67: report a bug, shouldn't happen | 16:46 |
| yofel | other than that, try to remove the -virtual package? do you need it? | 16:46 |
| oldude67 | well i am trying to get vbox to work.. | 16:47 |
| oldude67 | be back in a minute i have to reboot. | 16:48 |
| eagles0513875 | wooohooo kde is broken | 17:04 |
| eagles0513875 | i get the login screen and once i type in my password the screen goes black all that is left is the mouse. already tried removing the .kde folder to see if that would help but it hasnt | 17:05 |
| Guest54877 | hi | 17:14 |
| * genii sips his coffee | 17:15 | |
| billybigrigger | just woke up to find no cream or milk :( | 17:16 |
| billybigrigger | sweet and black today i guess :P | 17:17 |
| Guest54877 | any gay users? | 17:18 |
| Guest54877 | or shouldn't that be asked? | 17:18 |
| billybigrigger | i don't see how that is relevant to anything | 17:18 |
| Guest54877 | i think you don't know whta gay is | 17:19 |
| Guest54877 | same sex prefrence | 17:19 |
| eagles0513875 | ya but that is offtopic for this channel Guest54877 | 17:19 |
| eagles0513875 | !ot | 17:19 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 17:19 |
| billybigrigger | i know what it is, but it's not relevant to this channel | 17:19 |
| Guest54877 | hol on | 17:20 |
| billybigrigger | or any ubuntu channel for that matter | 17:20 |
| Guest54877 | i'm bi sexual | 17:20 |
| billybigrigger | ok, well this is a support channel, so that has no meaning | 17:20 |
| eagles0513875 | Guest54877: this is offtopic please vacate the channel if you arent testing out ubuntu karmic koala | 17:20 |
| billybigrigger | Guest54877, read what eagles0513875 pointed out | 17:20 |
| eagles0513875 | hey genii | 17:21 |
| genii | eagles0513875: Hey. | 17:21 |
| Guest54877 | how is karmic comming | 17:22 |
| Guest54877 | ? | 17:22 |
| Guest54877 | very much intrested in it | 17:22 |
| Guest54877 | trying to stay on topic hun | 17:22 |
| eagles0513875 | well Guest54877 the gay and bisexual remarks had nothing to do with the purpose of this channel | 17:23 |
| oldude67 | whats the easiest way to reload grub? | 17:23 |
| oldude67 | well lets see what google says..:D | 17:23 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, sudo update-grub | 17:24 |
| Guest54877 | lol free speech | 17:24 |
| billybigrigger | free speech, but it's off topic for discussion in this channel | 17:24 |
| oldude67 | billybigrigger, nope i want to start from scratch...its all fubarred | 17:24 |
| billybigrigger | how is it fubard? | 17:25 |
| billybigrigger | what errors are you getting? | 17:25 |
| oldude67 | wont let me use the 2.6.31-4 kernel..and i am having a ton of trouble with vbox | 17:25 |
| billybigrigger | what error do you get from trying to boot -4? | 17:25 |
| billybigrigger | pasetbin me some of your errors, those are not valid reasons to have to start over :P | 17:26 |
| eagles0513875 | Guest54877: if the offtopic chatter keeps up ill be forced to bring an op in here | 17:26 |
| oldude67 | doesnt even give me the option to boot from-4 not in boot menu..but when i do update-grub it shows it in the list | 17:26 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, if you really want to.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD | 17:26 |
| billybigrigger | do you see the image in /boot/? | 17:27 |
| oldude67 | hold on ill check | 17:27 |
| oldude67 | nope | 17:27 |
| billybigrigger | there's your problem | 17:28 |
| oldude67 | first kernel is the -2 kernel | 17:28 |
| billybigrigger | how did you install that kernel image? | 17:28 |
| oldude67 | threw updates | 17:28 |
| oldude67 | sudo aptitude update | 17:28 |
| billybigrigger | did it give you an error at all? | 17:28 |
| oldude67 | sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 17:28 |
| oldude67 | nope | 17:28 |
| billybigrigger | check your /var/log/aptitude and the /var/log/apt directory | 17:29 |
| oldude67 | k | 17:30 |
| Guest54877 | lol | 17:30 |
| eagles0513875 | Guest54877: there is nothing funny in this channel | 17:31 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, $ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.31-4-generic | 17:31 |
| Guest54877 | lol | 17:32 |
| Guest54877 | well i have a qeustion not sure if its realated how in heck do we get netflix to stream on ubuntu? | 17:32 |
| billybigrigger | what version of ubuntu are you running? | 17:32 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d2c303eb0 | 17:33 |
| billybigrigger | can you paste the output of $ ls /boot | 17:34 |
| billybigrigger | to pastebin | 17:34 |
| eagles0513875 | Guest54877: are you on karmic or jaunty | 17:34 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d65734117 | 17:35 |
| billy_ | oldude67: ok, your image is in /boot | 17:36 |
| billy_ | pastebin the output of $ sudo update-grub | 17:36 |
| billy_ | please | 17:36 |
| Guest54877 | netflix.com | 17:37 |
| Guest54877 | 9.04 | 17:38 |
| eagles0513875 | Guest54877: ask in #ubuntu channel this is for 9.10 support only | 17:38 |
| Guest54877 | oh more of the same nimrods | 17:38 |
| Guest54877 | ok i'm on 9.10 now just upgrade to the newst ubuntu there we go shit fuckers | 17:39 |
| eagles0513875 | Guest54877: thats the rules guest read the channel topic | 17:39 |
| eagles0513875 | !language | 17:39 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 17:39 |
| Guest54877 | lol | 17:39 |
| eagles0513875 | nalioth: :) thanks | 17:39 |
| nalioth | aww man, we just got rid of one, and now here's mneptok | 17:40 |
| * mneptok shakes like he just don't care | 17:41 | |
| eagles0513875 | nalioth: mind if i pm ya | 17:43 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, ? | 17:45 |
| nalioth | eagles0513875: you can PM staff any time | 17:45 |
| oldude67 | billybigrigger, yes? i pasted it a while back sorry heres the link again. | 17:45 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d65734117 | 17:45 |
| billybigrigger | hehe | 17:45 |
| billybigrigger | you must have missed it | 17:46 |
| billybigrigger | <billy_> oldude67: ok, your image is in /boot | 17:46 |
| billybigrigger | <billy_> pastebin the output of $ sudo update-grub | 17:46 |
| billybigrigger | <billy_> please | 17:46 |
| oldude67 | oh yeah i did sorry..lol | 17:46 |
| oldude67 | ok hold | 17:46 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d75cce83f | 17:48 |
| billybigrigger | Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-4-generic | 17:48 |
| billybigrigger | Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-4-generic | 17:48 |
| billybigrigger | when you reboot, do you see that image as a choice? | 17:48 |
| oldude67 | no | 17:48 |
| billybigrigger | hmm | 17:48 |
| oldude67 | thats what i said too..lol | 17:48 |
| billybigrigger | well i thought that maybe grub wasn't seeing it in /boot | 17:49 |
| billybigrigger | which it is | 17:49 |
| billybigrigger | you could manually boot that image | 17:49 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, or i could tell you how to make a custom entry in grub | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | oldude67, what have you got in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?, the linux-images should be listed there as well | 17:50 |
| oldude67 | BluesKaj, hold on a sec and ill tell ya.. | 17:51 |
| Guest54877 | boot to ya mothers pussy | 17:51 |
| billybigrigger | BluesKaj, if it doesn't show up there, it's easy to add a new entry in /etc/grub.d/ | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | billybigrigger, ok , lemme look | 17:52 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined%20Entries | 17:53 |
| billybigrigger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 has alot of useful reading :P | 17:54 |
| billybigrigger | !grub2 | 17:54 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 17:54 |
| billybigrigger | ooh nice :P | 17:54 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, what vbox problems are you having? | 17:55 |
| BluesKaj | oldude67, billybigrigger, the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file is editable so one can add another OS/Partition if grub somehow misses it or after a new OS install | 17:56 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, are they related to this kernel problem? ie. dkms not being able to build the modules? | 17:56 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d5ce3a61a | 17:56 |
| billybigrigger | BluesKaj, no it's not editable :P | 17:56 |
| billybigrigger | BluesKaj, creating menu entries in /etc/grub.d/ then running update-grub | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | well, i did , yeah , of one updates | 17:57 |
| BluesKaj | course | 17:57 |
| BluesKaj | anyway .. | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | i don't understand why you can't boot that kernel :( | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, might have to ask in #grub | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | show them your pastebins | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, try dropping to the grub command line | 17:58 |
| oldude67 | i am downloading the alpha 3 release | 17:58 |
| billybigrigger | and boot the kernel manually would be my next suggestion | 17:58 |
| BluesKaj | the kernel module corrupted? | 17:58 |
| oldude67 | heh knowing my luck the whole system is fubarred...lol | 17:58 |
| billybigrigger | why do you have 3 different -4 kernels? | 17:59 |
| oldude67 | only have a little bit of music on this as its my test box anyways...so if worse comes to worse ill just install the alpha 3 from cd and start from scratch. | 17:59 |
| billybigrigger | -pae -generic and -386 | 18:00 |
| oldude67 | idk..lol | 18:00 |
| billybigrigger | hmm | 18:00 |
| billybigrigger | your running a2 right now? | 18:00 |
| oldude67 | well i thought i was running a3 from doing updates but it hasnt given me the -4 kernel so probably an abomination of the 2 | 18:01 |
| billybigrigger | if your fully updated your running a3 | 18:02 |
| billybigrigger | to be honest i still don't have -4 either :P | 18:02 |
| oldude67 | ya ive been keeping up with the updates, hoping it would fix the problem | 18:03 |
| billybigrigger | The following packages have been kept back: | 18:03 |
| billybigrigger | chromium-browser ffmpeg libpurple0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic | 18:03 |
| billybigrigger | pidgin ubuntu-minimal usb-creator | 18:03 |
| billybigrigger | so i'm thinking you forced the upgrade of the kernel when you shouldn't have | 18:03 |
| oldude67 | dont know how i did that as i dont even know how to force something | 18:04 |
| oldude67 | if it updates it updates..if it dont i wait | 18:04 |
| billybigrigger | 32bit or 64bit? | 18:04 |
| oldude67 | 32 | 18:04 |
| billybigrigger | hmm | 18:04 |
| oldude67 | may install 9.04 and run karmic in vbox and see what happens. | 18:05 |
| billybigrigger | well getting you the -4 kernel isn't hard | 18:05 |
| oldude67 | so far its been sucking..lmao | 18:06 |
| billybigrigger | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/ | 18:06 |
| billybigrigger | download headers, source, and image | 18:06 |
| billybigrigger | then sudo dpkg -i them | 18:06 |
| billybigrigger | easy :P | 18:06 |
| oldude67 | ok ill try that before i do a restart...but have to wait a minute for the alpha 3 to finish downloading first. | 18:07 |
| oldude67 | only have about 25% left to download | 18:07 |
| billybigrigger | $ wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/linux-headers-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb && wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/linux-image-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb && wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/linux-source-2.6.31_2.6.31-020631rc4_all.deb | 18:08 |
| billybigrigger | then.... | 18:08 |
| billybigrigger | sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb linux-source-2.6.31_2.6.31-020631rc4_all.deb linux-image-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb | 18:08 |
| oldude67 | egads thats a lot of typing..lmao | 18:10 |
| SeveredCross | tab-complete FTW. | 18:10 |
| SeveredCross | :) | 18:10 |
| BluesKaj | copy & paste | 18:11 |
| oldude67 | SeveredCross, um ya ok fur why | 18:11 |
| oldude67 | my copy and paste doesnt work in xchat | 18:11 |
| billybigrigger | ??? highlight the text and middle click into the terminal | 18:11 |
| oldude67 | ah ok... lol i didnt know that one...yeah..lol | 18:12 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 18:12 |
| oldude67 | ill have to remember that one. | 18:12 |
| billybigrigger | quicker than right clicking, copy, then right clicking paste :P | 18:13 |
| billybigrigger | or ctrl c and v | 18:13 |
| oldude67 | you got that right... | 18:13 |
| billybigrigger | super quick and easy :P | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | heh, i still use ctrl c and v | 18:13 |
| yofel | why type all that? just dump them into a seperate folder and run dpkg -i *.deb | 18:13 |
| billybigrigger | yofel, always having to one up a guy eh? :P haha | 18:15 |
| yofel | yup :P | 18:15 |
| oldude67 | hey dont confuzzle me im messed up enough..lmao | 18:15 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, pls explain that one, i'm confused too :) | 18:16 |
| oldude67 | yofel, i think i kind of understand what you are talking about as i think i have done something like that in slackware before. | 18:17 |
| yofel | create a folder, go in there, wget the files (or move them there somhow) in that folder, run 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' , that will install all .deb files in that folder | 18:17 |
| yofel | the seperate folder is to make sure you don't install any other .deb files than the ones you want | 18:18 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, cool , gotcha :) | 18:20 |
| oldude67 | billybigrigger, um got an error...ugh | 18:20 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d141df5c4 | 18:22 |
| billybigrigger | cd /lib/modules/<KERNEL_NAME> | 18:24 |
| billybigrigger | ls -la | 18:24 |
| billybigrigger | where does build > point to? | 18:24 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d7fa20653 | 18:25 |
| billybigrigger | you forgot to cd | 18:26 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 18:26 |
| oldude67 | um nope i just copied and pasted...lol | 18:26 |
| billybigrigger | you have to put in your kernel | 18:26 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 18:26 |
| oldude67 | didnt know about cd | 18:26 |
| billybigrigger | hence the <KERNEL_NAME> | 18:26 |
| billybigrigger | should be something like /lib/modules/2.6.31-4-generic | 18:27 |
| yofel | oldude67: here for c&p: cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r) | 18:27 |
| billybigrigger | yeah that works aswell | 18:27 |
| DanaG | or backticks work too. | 18:27 |
| billybigrigger | but he's not running the -4 kernel yet | 18:27 |
| DanaG | !find gtkwidget | 18:28 |
| ubottu | File gtkwidget found in cl-clg, fpc-source, lazarus-src, libglrr-gtk-dev, libgtk2.0-dev (and 3 others) | 18:28 |
| oldude67 | /lib/modules/2.6.31-2-generic$ | 18:28 |
| billybigrigger | k | 18:28 |
| billybigrigger | ls -la | 18:28 |
| DanaG | hmm, update-manager crashes for me. | 18:28 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, then find build > and tell me where it points | 18:28 |
| DanaG | ImportError: No module named gtkwidgets | 18:28 |
| DanaG | previous line: from aptdaemon.gtkwidgets import (AptErrorDialog, | 18:29 |
| oldude67 | http://pastebin.com/d31175105 | 18:29 |
| billybigrigger | it should point to the linux-headers for that kernel, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4-generic | 18:29 |
| billybigrigger | oldude67, ok | 18:29 |
| billybigrigger | sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4.generic/ build | 18:30 |
| billybigrigger | then... | 18:30 |
| billybigrigger | errr | 18:30 |
| billybigrigger | 2.6.31-4-generic/ build that should read | 18:31 |
| oldude67 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2009-07-28 12:30 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4.generic/ | 18:31 |
| billybigrigger | yup | 18:31 |
| billybigrigger | then... | 18:31 |
| billybigrigger | oh no | 18:32 |
| billybigrigger | sudo rm build | 18:32 |
| billybigrigger | 4.generic is wrong | 18:32 |
| billybigrigger | should be 4-generic | 18:32 |
| oldude67 | ok so how do i fix that? | 18:33 |
| billybigrigger | sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4-generic/ build | 18:34 |
| billybigrigger | sudo rm build first | 18:34 |
| oldude67 | /lib/modules/2.6.31-2-generic$ sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4-generic/ build | 18:35 |
| oldude67 | ln: creating symbolic link `build': File exists | 18:35 |
| billybigrigger | k | 18:35 |
| oldude67 | um after doing all of this its telling me to reboot should i do that now? | 18:35 |
| billybigrigger | sudo /etc/init.d/dkms_autoinstaller start 2.6.31-4-generic | 18:35 |
| billybigrigger | should build your vbox modules | 18:36 |
| oldude67 | yeah it is | 18:36 |
| oldude67 | anything else or reboot now and crossfingers..lmao | 18:37 |
| billybigrigger | reboot | 18:38 |
| oldude67 | k brb...:D | 18:38 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as Fluffles | ||
| alteregoa | high | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | low | 19:04 |
| stefanlsd | I installed alpha3 and kept my /home partition. I cant the old data now as its encrypted, anyone got any suggestions or document how to unencrypt this? | 19:07 |
| idyle | My auto hiding side panel won't unhide in kubuntu! When I mouse over it, I just see a tiny sliver of it, like it's empty, and can't click on it or configure it or anything! | 19:08 |
| kklimonda | stefanlsd, how have you encrypted home? | 19:08 |
| idyle | this after I rebooted btw...I just made my bottom panel autohide and it's working fine | 19:08 |
| stefanlsd | kklimonda, well, my current home is not the problem. Before i installed karmic, i did a mv of /home/stefan to /home/stefan.upgrade. Then karmic installed. so /home/stefan/.Private on /home/stefan type ecryptfs. Which is fine. I need /home/stefan.upgrade which is encypted... | 19:10 |
| billybigrigger | why is it encrypted? | 19:12 |
| kklimonda | stefanlsd, was stefan.upgrade also encrypted using ecryptfs ? | 19:12 |
| billybigrigger | ohhh nevermind i read that wrong | 19:12 |
| kroson | hi people | 19:13 |
| stefanlsd | kklimonda, yeah, must of been :) was default jaunty option... | 19:13 |
| kroson | ive been trying to use karmic since alpha 2, but my wireless network card is not working | 19:13 |
| kroson | it is a 3945abg nic from intel | 19:13 |
| kklimonda | stefanlsd, when you create ecryptfs store you get a key and an information that you should keep it safe | 19:13 |
| kroson | is there any solution as of now? | 19:13 |
| billybigrigger | kroson, searching forums would be a good start | 19:14 |
| kklimonda | it's called mount passphrase | 19:14 |
| kroson | id really like to use this version because of the kernel | 19:14 |
| kroson | billybigrigger: no luck xD | 19:14 |
| stefanlsd | kklimonda, i am pretty sure i know the passphrase i entered... is it possible to decrypt with that alone, or do i need the other stuff also? | 19:14 |
| billybigrigger | kroson, not much knowledge of wireless here | 19:15 |
| billybigrigger | but is it listed in lspci and is the module loaded? | 19:15 |
| kroson | hmm im not with ubuntu now, but i think yes | 19:16 |
| Pici | My intel 3945 works fine in Karmic. | 19:16 |
| kklimonda | stefanlsd, one way or another (either /home was encrypted using ecryptfs or the other option - frankly I haven't done it in years) passphrase itself isn't enough | 19:17 |
| kroson | Pici: have you installed some different driver than the default? | 19:17 |
| kroson | and how long has it been working? | 19:17 |
| Pici | kroson: Nope. its using the iwl3945 module. | 19:17 |
| stefanlsd | kklimonda, k. thanks. I did a rsync before installing, so i still have the data. (thankfully!) | 19:17 |
| kklimonda | stefanlsd, then you are one lucky son of a @#$% ;} | 19:17 |
| Pici | kroson: Forever. | 19:17 |
| kroson | Pici: how long has it been working? and 32 or 64-bit? | 19:17 |
| Pici | kroson: 32bit. | 19:17 |
| stefanlsd | kklimonda, hehe. yeah! | 19:18 |
| kroson | did it work by default? it is strange | 19:18 |
| Pici | kroson: Yep. This was an upgrade from Jaunty though. | 19:18 |
| kroson | i remember doing an upgrade from jaunty, it broke the wireless as well | 19:19 |
| kroson | its weird that nobody has this problem at the forums, it may be a specific hardware issue | 19:20 |
| kroson | at jaunty it worked very well | 19:20 |
| mvo | DanaG: oh, update-manager crashes? I think I know what the problem is ... | 19:21 |
| DanaG | For me, I had to install the python aptdaemon gtk interface. | 19:21 |
| mvo | DanaG: yeah, the auto-detection code for that is b0rken :/ it tests for aptd, but not the python bindings | 19:22 |
| mvo | DanaG: fixed in bzr | 19:27 |
| DanaG | Cool. | 19:27 |
| DanaG | Nice, so doing that aptdaemon thing gives a different authentication UI. | 19:28 |
| mvo | DanaG: its a dbus based interface (using policykit), with some nice properties | 19:29 |
| DanaG | Though the "Applying Change" window is now rather ugly. | 19:29 |
| DanaG | www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Applying%20changes.png | 19:29 |
| mvo | its still relatively early in developerment, that is hopefully going to change so that it looks better :) | 19:30 |
| DanaG | www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Applying%20changes-1.png | 19:30 |
| DanaG | It's stopped there. Have to click "Details" to see why. | 19:30 |
| mvo | DanaG: oh, thats a bug | 19:30 |
| mvo | DanaG: do you have apt-listchanges installed? | 19:31 |
| DanaG | www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-Applying%20changes-2.png | 19:31 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 19:31 |
| DanaG | Why does update-manager not give the VT to apps? It makes 'less' work poorly when viewing a conffile diff, too. | 19:31 |
| DanaG | er, s/VT/console/ | 19:31 |
| mvo | DanaG: update-manager uses a vte terminal when dpkg is forked, in theory it could re-use the current terminal window (if that is what you mean). but that would be impratical when its started from e..g the menu | 19:33 |
| DanaG | What I mean is that the embedded terminal "is not fully functional", as dpkg claims. | 19:34 |
| kklimonda | DanaG, looks like a bug to me | 19:34 |
| mvo | DanaG: ah, I misunderstood then. I think in this case you hit a bug, it should be as good as the gnome-terminal | 19:34 |
| mvo | (its the same widget) | 19:34 |
| DanaG | Odd. | 19:34 |
| mvo | DanaG: could you please report that against the package "aptdaemon" ? | 19:35 |
| mvo | DanaG: and include that apt-listchanges was used? | 19:35 |
| DanaG | actually, that's not aptdaemon specifically at fault there -- it's been like that for me always. | 19:35 |
| DanaG | The "not fully functional", I mean. | 19:35 |
| DanaG | Same thing happens on a conffile prompt, even in Jaunty. | 19:35 |
| mvo | oh interessting. do you have a special TERM= setting in your config? | 19:35 |
| DanaG | $TERM is just 'xterm' (quotes not part of it, of course.) | 19:36 |
| DanaG | well, that's what a separate gnome-terminal reports. | 19:36 |
| DanaG | How do I make 'less' spawn a shell, so I can do that within update-manager? | 19:36 |
| mvo | to debug the problem? you could create a package that spawns a shell in its postinst and install that (or run env in the postinst to see what TERM looks like there) | 19:38 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, and the terminal also doesn't have job-control.... pressing ctrl-z just gives a literal ^Z. | 19:39 |
| DanaG | I know dpkg blocks ctrl-z, but normally, you don't get that character, at least. | 19:39 |
| mvo | DanaG: sorry, I can check this out tomorrow (its getting late here). I would be interessted if you have the same problem without aptdaemon, for now I suspect its just a bug there - but if not, then I wonder if the "normal" synaptic based progress in update-manager shows the same message | 19:43 |
| DanaG | I'll try next time I boot back to Jaunty, if that'd help. | 19:43 |
| mvo | yeah, that would be good | 19:44 |
| DanaG | ooh, I got a conffile change... so now I can 'Z' it. | 19:45 |
| portuguesemafia | how do i change the xboot when i install 9.10 on restart i cant see 9.04 and vista only a blue screen with 9.10 | 19:45 |
| DanaG | DBUS_STARTER_BUS_TYPE=system PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin LANG=en_US.UTF8 DEBIAN_FRONTEND=passthrough DPKG_NO_TSTP=yes DEBCONF_PIPE=/tmp/aptdaemon-hqmo_v/debconf.socket PWD=/ DBUS_STARTER_ADDRESS=unix:path=/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket,guid=9d3dec38376c01ad15723a944a6f207b | 19:46 |
| DanaG | Replaced each line break with 16 spaces. | 19:46 |
| yofel | !grub2 | portuguesemafia | 19:46 |
| ubottu | portuguesemafia: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 19:46 |
| yofel | portuguesemafia: see dual-booting | 19:46 |
| mvo | DanaG: so no TERM In there at all? | 19:48 |
| mvo | DanaG: I guess that is (at least part of) the bug then | 19:48 |
| DanaG | Either that, or the 'z' didn't hand the env. But the conffile diff thing also reports the "is not fully functional". | 19:49 |
| portuguesemafia | thanks | 19:50 |
| portuguesemafia | netstat | 20:18 |
| SeveredCross | Is the new sound applet GNOME's doing, or is it Ubuntu's doing> | 20:23 |
| Sebboh | Hi. I've got a semi-broken Karmic system.. I got it booted to console with an old kernel, but X doesn't work. How do I connect to wifi from the console? | 20:53 |
| alteregoa | use a port retarder | 20:55 |
| kklimonda | Sebboh, using ifconfig, iwconfig and (if you use wpa) wpa_supplicant | 21:01 |
| kklimonda | and then dhclient | 21:01 |
| alteregoa | meow | 21:16 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, what ever did happen to those ARM Netbook plans Canonical had made? | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | guud evening ;) | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | hi my fellow Ubuntu Members, Devs, Ubunteros, and other strangers :) | 21:29 |
| * BUGabundo is Happyy | 21:29 | |
| kklimonda | hey BUGabundo - nice desktop screenshots | 21:30 |
| DanaG | http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot.png | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | thanks my beloved friend kklimonda | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | where's yours? | 21:31 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo, I use default settings | 21:32 |
| * BUGabundo wonders if he should create a new wiki page just for screanshots | 21:32 | |
| BUGabundo | weekly screenshots from *everyone* | 21:32 |
| kklimonda | I don't even change wallpaper (as I never see it anyway ;) ) | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | don't lie to us! | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | _we know the truth_ | 21:32 |
| kklimonda | ok, fine - my wallpaper is so explicit I can't show it before midnight | 21:33 |
| DanaG | "midnight" is relative. | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | hey arand | 21:37 |
| arand | BUGabundo: eyo | 21:38 |
| kklimonda | DanaG, as it's always before midnight somewhere my desktop is safe ;) | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | this is quiet | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | nothing broken today ? :p | 21:52 |
| charlie-tca | or everything is broken today? | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | hey charlie-tca | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | dear friend | 21:55 |
| BUGabundo | how are you feeling today? | 21:55 |
| charlie-tca | Good evening, sir | 21:55 |
| charlie-tca | fit as a broken fiddle | 21:55 |
| yofel | NOOOOOOOOOOO....... | 21:55 |
| yofel | I just deleted my firefox profile... | 21:55 |
| * yofel goes searching for the backup... | 21:56 | |
| charlie-tca | backed it up, huh? | 21:56 |
| charlie-tca | Backed mine up on two different systems, and managed to delete both once | 21:56 |
| yofel | yeah, It's backed up, but the backup is stored on another pc | 21:56 |
| yofel | how? deleted it and then synced the backup? :P | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | AYYYYYYY yofel | 21:57 |
| yofel | hi BUGabundo | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | I used to run BZR on those things | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | need otom ake one again | 21:57 |
| charlie-tca | No, simply reinstalled on one system, then on the other | 21:58 |
| yofel | ouch | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | I forgot to backup my 5 yo cheat codes | 21:58 |
| DanaG | I have backups... but I don't have backups of the backups. | 21:59 |
| BUGabundo | all my little tricks and bash scripts lost | 21:59 |
| DanaG | It's also on the same drive as my bulk-storage drive. | 21:59 |
| yofel | grmbl... found the backup, but it's already a week old, nice reminder to sync more often... | 22:00 |
| charlie-tca | When I did the first reinstall, it worked so well, I didn't even think twice about the other one... | 22:01 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | damn ubuntu...works so well we forget backups | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | :P | 22:03 |
| * charlie-tca thinks it only takes once | 22:04 | |
| DanaG | ARGH! | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | ARRGGGG | 22:14 |
| DanaG | Something just wiped out all my compiz settings! | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | _who are we fithing tonigh Captain?_ | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | ahh that | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | it happens all the time | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | I just export it everytime I change something | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | and then import when that happens | 22:15 |
| DanaG | oh, and somehow gdm's metacity was still running when my desktop started. | 22:15 |
| yofel | hm, never happend to me | 22:16 |
| DanaG | ugh, and the thing I exported... doesn't actually have my settings in it! | 22:16 |
| DanaG | wait, it does have them... | 22:17 |
| DanaG | they're just not taking effect! | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: known bug | 22:18 |
| DanaG | WHY IS THIS STILL HERE? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/231904 | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | metacity will run ALWAYS after startup | 22:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 231904 in metacity "Metacity and Compiz fight to be "compositing manager" (dup-of: 178953)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 178953 in metacity "Cannot switch to Compiz if Metacity compositor is enabled" [Undecided,Fix released] | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | and delay startup, and mess after login | 22:18 |
| DanaG | oh, and my gdm wallpaper is not retained... it repaints black when I drag stuff over it. | 22:19 |
| DanaG | here's how I started compiz this time: | 22:19 |
| DanaG | sh -c 'compiz --replace & compiz --replace &' | 22:19 |
| DanaG | in alt-f2 menu. | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | I just see the default wallpaper | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | until a few secs into login!!! | 22:20 |
| DanaG | try opening an xterm as the gdm user. | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | I fill like to replace the file on disk to fix it | 22:20 |
| TigerCR1200 | Anyone else having Brasero not recognize blank media? | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: you just need it once | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | compiz --replace | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | OR --reload | 22:20 |
| DanaG | No, then metacity refuses to let go. | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | since it should already be running | 22:20 |
| DanaG | ah, I had just plain killed it. | 22:21 |
| charlie-tca | TigerCR1200: yes, since about alpha2 | 22:21 |
| TigerCR1200 | oh joy, guess that explains it all | 22:22 |
| TigerCR1200 | Any working burner? | 22:22 |
| charlie-tca | Bug 397906 | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 397906 in linux "blank cd-r not detected [Karmic]" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397906 | 22:22 |
| TigerCR1200 | Hell hell I found a new bug for it, but not that one | 22:23 |
| charlie-tca | There seems to be at least one new one everyday for it | 22:23 |
| duncan__ | anyone know if the bugs with ext4 and power loss have been fixed with newer kernels? had heard about it in the past | 22:23 |
| BUGabundo | duncan__: should have | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | I have no probs so far | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | and I've had at least 4 forced shutdowns | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo | as long as ppl run FSCK after the crash it should be fine | 22:24 |
| DanaG | I've just set my laptop to use data=journal mode. | 22:24 |
| duncan__ | I'm running 9.04 with my kernel upgraded to 30.3, and really prefer the performance leap with ext4 so just seeing how cautious I need to be | 22:26 |
| DanaG | It's always a good idea to do backups, anyway. | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | I did not see any performance boots | 22:27 |
| DanaG | Storage is relatively cheap nowadays. | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | really, I did not | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | but I was using XFS already | 22:28 |
| DanaG | Back in Jaunty, I saw a large improvement going ext3->ext4, especially in terms of boot time. | 22:28 |
| duncan__ | yeah I first installed as a test on ext3 and then reformatted and isntalled with ext4 and I boot and load in almost no time flat | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: clean install from / ext3 to ext4 I reduced from 30 to 19 secs boot to GDM | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | but on /home with XFS I see no extra performance, now with ext4 | 22:29 |
| duncan__ | and the performance compared to ntfs is even better ;) Microsoft really needs to update their filesystem | 22:29 |
| DanaG | ntfs-3g sucks in terms of performance. | 22:31 |
| dajomu | according to phoronix.com ext3 still is faster than ext4 | 22:31 |
| DanaG | When I'm copying SATA -> SATA, and getting 5 megabytes per second.... yeah, that sucks. | 22:31 |
| duncan__ | i'm just talking ntfs under windows :) | 22:31 |
| duncan__ | not through ntfs-3g | 22:31 |
| duncan__ | saving and loading a large spreadsheet I was working on in windows took about 10-15 second takes about 1-2 with ext4 in 9.04 | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: for me any external disk to external disk | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | on what ever FS | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | is SLOWWWW | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | why is OOo so much faster on debian then on ubuntu? | 22:33 |
| duncan__ | what is the speed of the HD? and is it usb 2.0? | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | my work pc takes like <3 secs to open | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | here takes like 10 sec | 22:33 |
| duncan__ | OO.o runs quite fast for me in 9.04 | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | 6 secs to spash, 12.5 sec to open Writer | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:33 |
| duncan__ | weird | 22:34 |
| nhasian | hello everyone | 22:34 |
| duncan__ | let me time it real fast | 22:34 |
| duncan__ | <3 seconds to open a spreadsheet from oo.o being closed | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | no idea why my system is so slow | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | its a fresh install | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | hey nhasian | 22:35 |
| duncan__ | 32 or 64bit kernel? | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | language-pack-gnome-pt: Depends: language-pack-gnome-pt-base (>= 1:9.10+20090725) but 1:9.04+20090413 is to be installed | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | grrr | 22:37 |
| nhasian | BUGabundo, hey how's karmic treating you? | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | 64bits FTW | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | nhasian: with an hammer !! | 22:37 |
| duncan__ | running 32bit here | 22:37 |
| duncan__ | what about at work? | 22:37 |
| nhasian | i'm waiting for the new brasero to hit the repo so i can use my cd burner again | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | 6bits debian squeeze | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | with 8GiBs of sweet RAM | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | 4 GiB here | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | 320 GiBs 5400 / allll ext4 | 22:38 |
| duncan__ | processor at work and home? | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | work ext3 on sata 250 7200 | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | humm not sure | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | C2D something | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | here is a 2.4GHz T8300 | 22:39 |
| duncan__ | well i'm stumped then because my laptop i'm on is only an AMD 64 X2 Turion @ 2ghz | 22:40 |
| duncan__ | and the HD is a 200gig @ 5400 with ext4 | 22:40 |
| nhasian | even entry level computers are coming with 3Gig ram minimum. i think its the End of Days for 32bit OS. | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | don't | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | ppl seem to be nitting to PAE now :( | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | even to joker here, kklimonda | 22:41 |
| * kklimonda nods | 22:41 | |
| kklimonda | now that pae kernel is in archive I see no reason to use 64 bit system ;) | 22:41 |
| * nhasian laughs | 22:41 | |
| duncan__ | i'm just using 32bit as certain application I use are questionable in 64bit and I don't want to be running dual libraries to run some programs, the performance i'de gain from 64bit on this laptop isn't that great | 22:42 |
| DanaG | My external drive is eSATA, so it's natively fast. | 22:43 |
| DanaG | But ntfs-3g is dog-slow. | 22:43 |
| DanaG | In Windows, I can get, oh, at least 50 megabytes per second. | 22:43 |
| duncan__ | if only windows could read ext4 :p | 22:43 |
| kklimonda | duncan__, it can't? there are drivers for ext3 | 22:44 |
| SeveredCross | kklimonda: The default enabled features for ext4 prevent mounting as ext3. | 22:44 |
| DanaG | that was odd... I started gnome login, then switched to tty0... and then when I switched back, it claimed I wasn't 'permitted' to mount a usb disk thingy. | 22:44 |
| duncan__ | not that i've seen, there may be some out now | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: can you try external to external please? | 22:44 |
| DanaG | yet, when I clicked on it... it mounted. | 22:44 |
| SeveredCross | There is an ext3 driver, but it just complains about unsupported features if you try to mount ext4. | 22:44 |
| DanaG | I only have one eSATA port, and that drive is not on hand at the moment. | 22:44 |
| mac_v | DanaG: the rfkill command in rc.local didnt work:( | 22:44 |
| DanaG | Dang. | 22:44 |
| DanaG | Perhaps the module hadn't loaded yet? | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: it can even be two usb sticks!!! | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | I need someone to test that | 22:45 |
| DanaG | USB is slow, anyway. | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/321862 | 22:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 321862 in linux "Intrepid: Ubuntu has severe problems when using two USB HDDs at the same time" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:45 |
| mac_v | DanaG: i tried even from terminal after boot, it doesnt do anything! | 22:45 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: not THIS slow | 22:45 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo, have you applied for bugcontrol already? | 22:46 |
| mac_v | hei guys, does anyone know where the /etc/modprobe.d/options settings for *wireless* have been moved?[some settings are set as xxxx.conf , but wireless killswitch state doesnt accept the settings from there] | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: no | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | you know I'm too lazy for that | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | I'm waiting they give it to me | 22:47 |
| kklimonda | :D | 22:47 |
| DanaG | Make a new file: | 22:47 |
| DanaG | /etc/modprobe.d/whatever.conf | 22:47 |
| DanaG | where "whatever" is... well, you get the idea. | 22:47 |
| mac_v | DanaG: i tried ... that;p , but no go :( | 22:47 |
| DanaG | Make a new file, so it won't get a conffile upgrade prompt. | 22:47 |
| DanaG | cat: /dev/ttyUSB0: Invalid argument | 22:49 |
| DanaG | what the heck? | 22:49 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, what filesystems are you usb hdds? | 22:49 |
| mac_v | those settings worked in intrepid , when i upgraded to Jaunty... that file became a backup , and the option were moved somewhere! i still havent found where! | 22:49 |
| DanaG | what option? | 22:49 |
| mac_v | /etc/modprobe.d/options | 22:50 |
| DanaG | You don't have to find where they are currently... you can just make a new conf file. | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: need an hammer? | 22:50 |
| mac_v | i tried that | 22:50 |
| DanaG | Naw, a putty knife would at least let my pry the thing open. | 22:50 |
| mac_v | but wireless doesn read the .conf option from modprobe.d anymore | 22:50 |
| DanaG | What's the driver? | 22:51 |
| mac_v | iwl3945 | 22:51 |
| mac_v | oh! | 22:51 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, copying mp3's from 1 usb stick to the other isn't all that slow | 22:51 |
| DanaG | hmm, perhaps the option has been renamed? | 22:51 |
| billybigrigger | getting ~4mb/s writes via iotop | 22:51 |
| DanaG | I know at least iwlagn had some get renamed. | 22:51 |
| DanaG | bit, or Byte? | 22:52 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, billybigrigger@cabo:/media/00AA-F35A$ time cp /media/16GB/boot/*.mp3 /media/00AA-F35A/ | 22:52 |
| billybigrigger | real0m24.216s | 22:52 |
| DanaG | 4mb and 4MB are not the same. =รพ | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: anything | 22:52 |
| mac_v | maybe... but noone seems to know renamed to what :( | 22:52 |
| DanaG | modinfo iwl3945 | 22:52 |
| DanaG | that should say. | 22:52 |
| billybigrigger | bug 4M/s | 22:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 4 in rosetta "Importing finished po doesn't change progressbar" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4 | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | mostly my tests were on FAT32 and ntfs | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: rsync -vrhP --stats | 22:53 |
| * mac_v looks | 22:53 | |
| billybigrigger | both my usb sticks are fat32 | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: that's _slow_ | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | I can get my usbstick up to 16MiB/s | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | and HDs to 21 | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | e-sata to 48 | 22:54 |
| billybigrigger | those were 4meg mp3 files | 22:54 |
| billybigrigger | haven't tested anything bigger than an mp3 | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null& pid=$! | 22:55 |
| billybigrigger | billybigrigger@cabo:/media/00AA-F35A$ rsync -vrhP --stats /home/billybigrigger/linux-source-2.6.31-rc4-billybigrigger0727_2.6.31-rc4-billybigrigger0727-10.00.Custom_all.deb /media/00AA-F35A/ | 22:55 |
| billybigrigger | sending incremental file list | 22:55 |
| billybigrigger | linux-source-2.6.31-rc4-billybigrigger0727_2.6.31-rc4-billybigrigger0727-10.00.Custom_all.deb | 22:55 |
| billybigrigger | 62.74M 100% 43.78MB/s 0:00:01 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | $ kill -USR1 $pid; sleep 1; kill $pid | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | just replace the of | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | make a nice 1GiB file | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | and then rsync it | 22:55 |
| billybigrigger | how bout a 60meg linux source deb :P | 22:56 |
| duncan__ | hmm, is it possible to format a flash drive from fat to ext? | 22:57 |
| billybigrigger | that one is only a 60M usb stick, i'll try something bigger on my 16GB stick | 22:57 |
| yofel | duncan__: it's possible to format it with any filesystem available in ubuntu | 22:58 |
| duncan__ | hmm, wonder how much of a performance gain it would get | 22:59 |
| duncan__ | btw, how is the new framework in 9.10 they used to replace pidgin? | 22:59 |
| yofel | duncan__: well, forgetting the performance, you loose windows compatibility and you gain linux permission support | 22:59 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, billybigrigger@cabo:/media/00AA-F35A$ rsync -vrhP --stats /home/billybigrigger/linux-image-2.6.31-rc3-billybigrigger0714_2.6.31-rc3-billybigrigger0714-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb /media/16GB/ | 23:00 |
| billybigrigger | sending incremental file list | 23:00 |
| billybigrigger | linux-image-2.6.31-rc3-billybigrigger0714_2.6.31-rc3-billybigrigger0714-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb | 23:00 |
| billybigrigger | 377.51M 100% 48.09MB/s 0:00:07 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) | 23:00 |
| billybigrigger | peaked at 52MB/s | 23:00 |
| duncan__ | yofel, yeah I've got a few flash drives wouldn't mind having one for my project files that only works in linux | 23:00 |
| yofel | In my case I could live without the permission support, but the fact that windows filesystems can't handle symlinks drives me crazy :P | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | right... the file was already there | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | hehe | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | but that's FAST | 23:02 |
| billybigrigger | ? what do you mean the file was already there | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: <30 sec is not enouth to fill the usb controler buffer | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | it only slows down after several minutes copy | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: try bonnie++ | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | no no | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | its just to short on time | 23:05 |
| billybigrigger | k, 8GB .mkv it is | 23:06 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 23:06 |
| billybigrigger | hah 10s in it drops to 2M/s | 23:06 |
| kklimonda | heh, I got an awesome error when trying to copy a folder over ftp in nautilus: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29637090/error-copying.png | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: right | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | and it will slow down even more | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | btw it also happens on debia | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | so I guess it's a kernel bug | 23:07 |
| billybigrigger | up to 5.3MB/s | 23:08 |
| billybigrigger | it's climbing, not dropping | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | ahahahah | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | File is a Directory | 23:08 |
| DanaG | damnit, computer hard-locked again. | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: I get that when I plug USB | 23:09 |
| DanaG | I think it has something to do with the usb serial adapter. | 23:09 |
| DanaG | The only thing I did right when it froze: I turned on a device attached to the serial port. | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | any thing other them my mouse | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | will freeze my system | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | only on 31-4 | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | -3 is OK | 23:10 |
| kklimonda | heh, sounds scary :) | 23:11 |
| DanaG | The USB part was already connected, though. | 23:11 |
| DanaG | So, the mere reading from serial port would've been what locked it up. Odd. | 23:12 |
| xim_ | does the 9.10 release come with the cylender-cube plugin for compiz? | 23:13 |
| coz_ | xim_, yes it should | 23:14 |
| coz_ | xim_, look in ccsm cube refelction and deformation plugin | 23:14 |
| coz_ | xim_, then the Deformation tab | 23:14 |
| xim_ | well i dont have it yet | 23:14 |
| coz_ | oh | 23:14 |
| xim_ | but sweet | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | xim_: even jaunty had it! | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | but now we have FISHS on it woot | 23:14 |
| coz_ | :) | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | see http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop/20090727-2.png.php | 23:14 |
| xim_ | nicce, 3d windows also? | 23:15 |
| xim_ | i had to manually add that in 8.10 | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | right | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | that's not default | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | that's A LOT of compiz settings hacking at work | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | eheheh | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: LOLOLOL | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: kklimonda <3 you | 23:17 |
| kklimonda | thanks ;) | 23:17 |
| xim_ | yea i r l33t h4x0r! | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: your secret is safe with me | 23:18 |
| BUGabundo | how could you even think that? can you see the way _he_ writes? | 23:18 |
| kklimonda | :D | 23:18 |
| kklimonda | please, I'm eating - if I choke myself while laughing I'll hold you responsible :P | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | ahahahaahahaahahaahahaha | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | isn't it a bit late? | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | its like 24:30 there right? | 23:20 |
| kklimonda | well, ya - I eat at weird hours | 23:21 |
| DanaG | damnit, usb-serial adapter is causing kernel ooooopses. | 23:25 |
| DanaG | BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000020 | 23:26 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, I'm trying to get my prnt scrn to work while holding down the scroll wheel but I get nothing ..what's the setting ? | 23:26 |
| DanaG | and I'm guessing that if I just pull the thing out of the USB port... it'll lock up. | 23:27 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: scroll wheel???? | 23:27 |
| BUGabundo | I just hit fn+scrlk | 23:28 |
| BluesKaj | on the mouse , to rotate the cube | 23:28 |
| DanaG | hmm, now it's working, or so it seems. | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: I don't use the scroll | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | lolol | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | I use ctrl+alt+drag | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | and I timed screenshot of 2 secs | 23:29 |
| DanaG | damnit, it did it again. | 23:34 |
| DanaG | Blocked all input devices. | 23:34 |
| DanaG | Including ACPI ones. But yet, the little CPU usage thingy in my panel was still working. | 23:35 |
| DanaG | oh, and: gnome-session[3793]: WARNING: Unable to find provider 'compiz' of required component 'windowmanager' | 23:35 |
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| BUGabundo | grrr | 23:38 |
| BUGabundo | took me 4 tries | 23:39 |
| BUGabundo | but manage to make -4 crash with my 3G modem | 23:39 |
| DanaG | oh yeah, and trying to efi-boot... results in not finding initramfs/. | 23:41 |
| DanaG | I also get /proc/cmdline: no such file or directory | 23:42 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, not quite as fancy as yours but like this ? http://imagebin.ca/view/YYp3wFMe.html | 23:44 |
| duncan__ | am I the only one who like the minimal effects that come as default? :p | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | whoooooooooo nice | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | duncan__: yes :P | 23:47 |
| duncan__ | well crap ;) | 23:49 |
| duncan__ | haha | 23:49 |
| duncan__ | hmm, I wonder whall all we will have in 10.04, seeing as it is the next LTS | 23:50 |
| duncan__ | what* | 23:50 |
| SKB | just more stability fixes i guess | 23:50 |
| duncan__ | maybe a fully stable compiz version 1.0 ;) | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo | duncan__: MUAAAAUUA | 23:51 |
| duncan__ | especially one that doesn't destroy itself when it gets introduced to wine :) | 23:51 |
| duncan__ | compositing + wine = bad | 23:52 |
| DanaG | here are my settings: www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Dana_Compiz.profile | 23:52 |
| duncan__ | atm anyways | 23:52 |
| DanaG | Wine audio == bad, too. | 23:52 |
| BluesKaj | duncan__, so far so good in karmic ....compiz seems to run fine on the newest kde 4 too | 23:52 |
| duncan__ | BluesKaj, well that is good to hear, and I always found it weird that kubuntu uses compiz instead of kwin | 23:53 |
| duncan__ | but for wine I usually avoid all issues by setting up a separate xserver that doesn't load a DE | 23:56 |
| BluesKaj | duncan__, there is a choice but I don't much effects with kwin . Not that I use it much . mainly to impress friends and relatives :) | 23:56 |
| BluesKaj | get much | 23:56 |
| BluesKaj | whiz-bang stuff | 23:56 |
| duncan__ | BluesKaj, hehe yeah, I just use the default effects that add to usability, alot of the fancy stuff I stay away from as it just distracts me | 23:57 |
| BluesKaj | wobbly windows and some transparency is ok | 23:58 |
| DanaG | Take a read of my settings in browser. | 23:59 |
| BluesKaj | W7 has wobblies too I think | 23:59 |
| DanaG | Nope. | 23:59 |
| duncan__ | I use WIn7 on my desktop and no wobblies | 23:59 |
| DanaG | Normal-window: open is dream, close is sidekick. Min/UnMin is Lamp. Menus are Vacuum. | 23:59 |
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