[10:26] hy [10:27] hi ares4you [10:27] can I repair my broken network without internet connection ( my internet connection worked fine before last update ) [10:29] broken as in? NM won't connect to wireless? NM tells you you don't have any network cards? [10:31] wired network : davicom 9601 to fast ethernet adapter [10:32] this in the problem [10:32] I recive one msg: network manager is not working [10:33] before last update my network manager worked fine! [10:33] tried to restart it? 'sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart' [10:34] no [10:34] I have restarted my laptop [10:34] you should also check if you get any errors in dmesg or /var/log/syslog [10:35] ok [10:43] can you send me metwork manager package to avoid future crashes [10:43] I've upgraded my notebook to karmic and now after the login, I've only my desktop background, no panels, etc. has someone an idea what I've broken? [10:43] ares4you: As I don't know *why* your network doesn't work I can't help you much [10:44] ok [10:45] a from where can I download an older version of network manage? [10:45] manager` [10:46] ares4you: you could save the dmesg and the /var/log/syslog files somewhere and pastebin them with your working connection [10:46] like that we might be able to help you [10:46] as to where to get the older packages I don't know, sry [10:48] geser: not sure, if right click still works you could add a launcher to start 'gnome-panel' or 'nautilus' [10:48] or ask again later when the others come back [10:50] now is ok! I have reinstalled my ubuntu and now I am running 9.04 not 9.10 [10:50] yofel: right-clicking doesn't work, but I can start the gnome-panel from the normal terminal and it appears. I've also to start metacity else the windows don't have any titlebar. [10:50] yofel: I've also tried to create a new user so see if it's in my user settings, but with the same result [10:52] geser: any information in your ~/.xsession-errors ? [10:55] yofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/235070/ [10:56] can someone help me with how to change the graphics drivers from fglrx to the open source from the command line? I just went to Karmic Alpha 3 and now can't get x. =/ [10:58] back on testing! ;) [10:59] bye bye!!! [11:00] tbaxter: remove the 'Driver "radeon"' or something like that from you /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:01] geser: seems to me like gnome-session-daemon fails to load [11:01] hello. Where I can change GDM settings? [11:02] kkszysiu: by hand, there is no GUI config tool for the new gdm yet [11:03] yofel: I've checked and it's running [11:03] yofel: I get my custom wallpaper and network-manager asks me for my keyring password but that's all what happens [11:03] geser: it fails to load at least one module as seen in line 2, as to *which* module I don't know [11:04] kkszysiu: there is no GUI for it yet [11:04] yofel: will try to find out what it is [11:27] no cd writer is working from live image [11:28] nautilus shows blank cd but brasero says there is not cd [11:28] help?? [11:28] i am using karmic alpha3 [11:31] bazhang: now? [11:31] om26er, have you tried others [11:32] yes xcd roast [11:32] and gnomebaker [11:32] does anyone know how to prevent the policykit authorizations from prompting each startup *but* still allow access to drives? the authorizations settings dont seem to have any effect [11:32] om26er, like gnomebaker [11:33] when using an alpha it is assumed you can HELP yourself? [11:33] om26er, what about burning from nautilus, does that work [11:33] nautilus shows that there is a blank cd-r but the writing software say there is no drive [11:33] om26er, hmm may be a bug [11:33] but that again goes to brasero and an error occurs [11:34] any1 else????? [11:35] om26er: Not regarding the cd, but did you get your Grub2 issue solved from the other day? [11:35] no [11:36] If you remind me what it was perhaps I could help. [11:36] but now i only use karmic as live [11:37] ok [11:38] but still thanx drs305 [11:38] :-) [11:41] what are the modules for cd image writing [11:41] there might be some files that i need 2 install?? [12:28] Howdy Folks [12:29] hi BluesKaj [12:30] hey yofel , greetings from the great wet north-ontario ...nothing but rain here for most of July [12:31] heh, geetings from the (today) sunny southern germany, although the weather is usually pretty rainy here too -.- [12:31] I'm up early due to thunderstorms ...can't sleep :P [13:05] <|ns|nR8> services. gives +e |ns|nR8 [13:05] <|ns|nR8> yayy [14:29] my air card quit working after upgrade yesterday...any thoughts [14:30] Guest6082: what card? [14:30] sprint sierra 595 [14:31] it was working but now just locks up my laptop [14:31] no idea, sry [14:31] anyone else using air card? [14:32] i have one but i havent tried it on 9.10 [14:33] i was loving 9.10 but I know things brings on new versions [14:33] it will work eventually [14:33] im going to test my merlin s720 [14:39] anyone having problem with broadband cards [14:50] My auto hiding side panel won't unhide! When I mouse over it, I just see a tiny sliver of it, like it's empty, and can't click on it or configure it or anything! [14:50] I'm using kubuntu karmic, and it's awesome except for this! [15:28] anyone have a suggestion on how i can get my vbox running, says to install the ose-source package but its installed. also says something about generic kernel headers but wont let me have the ones for -2 kerenl? [15:39] oldude67: I'installing vbox guest in karmic too atm [15:39] if you're isntalling HOST system I would advise to simply add the sun apt to your sources list [15:40] and install not the OSE but the normal 3.0.2 [15:59] packages.ubuntu.com is down :-( [16:00] i'm trying to find out if Karmic will have version 3 of awesome window manager [16:01] apt-cache policy awesome: Candidate: 3.3.1-1 ;) [16:01] !find awesome [16:01] Found: awesome, awesome-extra [16:01] !info awesome [16:01] awesome (source: awesome): highly configurable, next generation framework window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.1-1 (karmic), package size 341 kB, installed size 2140 kB [16:01] peeps[work], ^^ [16:02] rmadison is also a handy tool [16:02] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi <-- [16:02] I also made a firefox search plugin thingy for that [16:10] hi . anyone knows how to change login window (gdm) in ubuntu 9.10 ? [16:11] mofo: there is no GUI config tool for the new gdm yet, so you'll have to edit the config files [16:12] and where do i do that ? i looked up in usr/share/gdm [16:12] i found old themes from 9.04 === mofo is now known as ubuntu9-10-user === Moult_ is now known as Moult [16:32] vbox is kicking my arse...ugh [16:34] how do i get the system to update to the 2.6.31-4 kernel its installed and is in the update-grub but doesnt show in grub menu when i boot? [16:35] hey guys the kde updates wont allow me to login to kde any more [16:44] how do i fix this? http://pastebin.com/d3dbf2863 [16:46] oldude67: report a bug, shouldn't happen [16:46] other than that, try to remove the -virtual package? do you need it? [16:47] well i am trying to get vbox to work.. [16:48] be back in a minute i have to reboot. [17:04] wooohooo kde is broken [17:05] i get the login screen and once i type in my password the screen goes black all that is left is the mouse. already tried removing the .kde folder to see if that would help but it hasnt [17:14] hi [17:15] * genii sips his coffee [17:16] just woke up to find no cream or milk :( [17:17] sweet and black today i guess :P [17:18] any gay users? [17:18] or shouldn't that be asked? [17:18] i don't see how that is relevant to anything [17:19] i think you don't know whta gay is [17:19] same sex prefrence [17:19] ya but that is offtopic for this channel Guest54877 [17:19] !ot [17:19] #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. [17:19] i know what it is, but it's not relevant to this channel [17:20] hol on [17:20] or any ubuntu channel for that matter [17:20] i'm bi sexual [17:20] ok, well this is a support channel, so that has no meaning [17:20] Guest54877: this is offtopic please vacate the channel if you arent testing out ubuntu karmic koala [17:20] Guest54877, read what eagles0513875 pointed out [17:21] hey genii [17:21] eagles0513875: Hey. [17:22] how is karmic comming [17:22] ? [17:22] very much intrested in it [17:22] trying to stay on topic hun [17:23] well Guest54877 the gay and bisexual remarks had nothing to do with the purpose of this channel [17:23] whats the easiest way to reload grub? [17:23] well lets see what google says..:D [17:24] oldude67, sudo update-grub [17:24] lol free speech [17:24] free speech, but it's off topic for discussion in this channel [17:24] billybigrigger, nope i want to start from scratch...its all fubarred [17:25] how is it fubard? [17:25] what errors are you getting? [17:25] wont let me use the 2.6.31-4 kernel..and i am having a ton of trouble with vbox [17:25] what error do you get from trying to boot -4? [17:26] pasetbin me some of your errors, those are not valid reasons to have to start over :P [17:26] Guest54877: if the offtopic chatter keeps up ill be forced to bring an op in here [17:26] doesnt even give me the option to boot from-4 not in boot menu..but when i do update-grub it shows it in the list [17:26] oldude67, if you really want to.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD [17:27] do you see the image in /boot/? [17:27] hold on ill check [17:27] nope [17:28] there's your problem [17:28] first kernel is the -2 kernel [17:28] how did you install that kernel image? [17:28] threw updates [17:28] sudo aptitude update [17:28] did it give you an error at all? [17:28] sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [17:28] nope [17:29] check your /var/log/aptitude and the /var/log/apt directory [17:30] k [17:30] lol [17:31] Guest54877: there is nothing funny in this channel [17:31] oldude67, $ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.31-4-generic [17:32] lol [17:32] well i have a qeustion not sure if its realated how in heck do we get netflix to stream on ubuntu? [17:32] what version of ubuntu are you running? [17:33] http://pastebin.com/d2c303eb0 [17:34] can you paste the output of $ ls /boot [17:34] to pastebin [17:34] Guest54877: are you on karmic or jaunty [17:35] http://pastebin.com/d65734117 [17:36] oldude67: ok, your image is in /boot [17:36] pastebin the output of $ sudo update-grub [17:36] please [17:37] netflix.com [17:38] 9.04 [17:38] Guest54877: ask in #ubuntu channel this is for 9.10 support only [17:38] oh more of the same nimrods [17:39] ok i'm on 9.10 now just upgrade to the newst ubuntu there we go shit fuckers [17:39] Guest54877: thats the rules guest read the channel topic [17:39] !language [17:39] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [17:39] lol [17:39] nalioth: :) thanks [17:40] aww man, we just got rid of one, and now here's mneptok [17:41] * mneptok shakes like he just don't care [17:43] nalioth: mind if i pm ya [17:45] oldude67, ? [17:45] eagles0513875: you can PM staff any time [17:45] billybigrigger, yes? i pasted it a while back sorry heres the link again. [17:45] http://pastebin.com/d65734117 [17:45] hehe [17:46] you must have missed it [17:46] oldude67: ok, your image is in /boot [17:46] pastebin the output of $ sudo update-grub [17:46] please [17:46] oh yeah i did sorry..lol [17:46] ok hold [17:48] http://pastebin.com/d75cce83f [17:48] Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-4-generic [17:48] Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-4-generic [17:48] when you reboot, do you see that image as a choice? [17:48] no [17:48] hmm [17:48] thats what i said too..lol [17:49] well i thought that maybe grub wasn't seeing it in /boot [17:49] which it is [17:49] you could manually boot that image [17:50] oldude67, or i could tell you how to make a custom entry in grub [17:50] oldude67, what have you got in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?, the linux-images should be listed there as well [17:51] BluesKaj, hold on a sec and ill tell ya.. [17:51] boot to ya mothers pussy [17:52] BluesKaj, if it doesn't show up there, it's easy to add a new entry in /etc/grub.d/ [17:52] billybigrigger, ok , lemme look [17:53] oldude67, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined%20Entries [17:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 has alot of useful reading :P [17:54] !grub2 [17:54] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [17:54] ooh nice :P [17:55] oldude67, what vbox problems are you having? [17:56] oldude67, billybigrigger, the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file is editable so one can add another OS/Partition if grub somehow misses it or after a new OS install [17:56] oldude67, are they related to this kernel problem? ie. dkms not being able to build the modules? [17:56] http://pastebin.com/d5ce3a61a [17:56] BluesKaj, no it's not editable :P [17:56] BluesKaj, creating menu entries in /etc/grub.d/ then running update-grub [17:57] well, i did , yeah , of one updates [17:57] course [17:57] anyway .. [17:57] i don't understand why you can't boot that kernel :( [17:57] oldude67, might have to ask in #grub [17:57] show them your pastebins [17:58] oldude67, try dropping to the grub command line [17:58] i am downloading the alpha 3 release [17:58] and boot the kernel manually would be my next suggestion [17:58] the kernel module corrupted? [17:58] heh knowing my luck the whole system is fubarred...lol [17:59] why do you have 3 different -4 kernels? [17:59] only have a little bit of music on this as its my test box anyways...so if worse comes to worse ill just install the alpha 3 from cd and start from scratch. [18:00] -pae -generic and -386 [18:00] idk..lol [18:00] hmm [18:00] your running a2 right now? [18:01] well i thought i was running a3 from doing updates but it hasnt given me the -4 kernel so probably an abomination of the 2 [18:02] if your fully updated your running a3 [18:02] to be honest i still don't have -4 either :P [18:03] ya ive been keeping up with the updates, hoping it would fix the problem [18:03] The following packages have been kept back: [18:03] chromium-browser ffmpeg libpurple0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic [18:03] pidgin ubuntu-minimal usb-creator [18:03] so i'm thinking you forced the upgrade of the kernel when you shouldn't have [18:04] dont know how i did that as i dont even know how to force something [18:04] if it updates it updates..if it dont i wait [18:04] 32bit or 64bit? [18:04] 32 [18:04] hmm [18:05] may install 9.04 and run karmic in vbox and see what happens. [18:05] well getting you the -4 kernel isn't hard [18:06] so far its been sucking..lmao [18:06] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/ [18:06] download headers, source, and image [18:06] then sudo dpkg -i them [18:06] easy :P [18:07] ok ill try that before i do a restart...but have to wait a minute for the alpha 3 to finish downloading first. [18:07] only have about 25% left to download [18:08] $ wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/linux-headers-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb && wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/linux-image-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb && wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc4/linux-source-2.6.31_2.6.31-020631rc4_all.deb [18:08] then.... [18:08] sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb linux-source-2.6.31_2.6.31-020631rc4_all.deb linux-image-2.6.31-020631rc4-generic_2.6.31-020631rc4_i386.deb [18:10] egads thats a lot of typing..lmao [18:10] tab-complete FTW. [18:10] :) [18:11] copy & paste [18:11] SeveredCross, um ya ok fur why [18:11] my copy and paste doesnt work in xchat [18:11] ??? highlight the text and middle click into the terminal [18:12] ah ok... lol i didnt know that one...yeah..lol [18:12] :P [18:12] ill have to remember that one. [18:13] quicker than right clicking, copy, then right clicking paste :P [18:13] or ctrl c and v [18:13] you got that right... [18:13] super quick and easy :P [18:13] heh, i still use ctrl c and v [18:13] why type all that? just dump them into a seperate folder and run dpkg -i *.deb [18:15] yofel, always having to one up a guy eh? :P haha [18:15] yup :P [18:15] hey dont confuzzle me im messed up enough..lmao [18:16] yofel, pls explain that one, i'm confused too :) [18:17] yofel, i think i kind of understand what you are talking about as i think i have done something like that in slackware before. [18:17] create a folder, go in there, wget the files (or move them there somhow) in that folder, run 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' , that will install all .deb files in that folder [18:18] the seperate folder is to make sure you don't install any other .deb files than the ones you want [18:20] yofel, cool , gotcha :) [18:20] billybigrigger, um got an error...ugh [18:22] http://pastebin.com/d141df5c4 [18:24] cd /lib/modules/ [18:24] ls -la [18:24] where does build > point to? [18:25] http://pastebin.com/d7fa20653 [18:26] you forgot to cd [18:26] :P [18:26] um nope i just copied and pasted...lol [18:26] you have to put in your kernel [18:26] :P [18:26] didnt know about cd [18:26] hence the [18:27] should be something like /lib/modules/2.6.31-4-generic [18:27] oldude67: here for c&p: cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r) [18:27] yeah that works aswell [18:27] or backticks work too. [18:27] but he's not running the -4 kernel yet [18:28] !find gtkwidget [18:28] File gtkwidget found in cl-clg, fpc-source, lazarus-src, libglrr-gtk-dev, libgtk2.0-dev (and 3 others) [18:28] /lib/modules/2.6.31-2-generic$ [18:28] k [18:28] ls -la [18:28] hmm, update-manager crashes for me. [18:28] oldude67, then find build > and tell me where it points [18:28] ImportError: No module named gtkwidgets [18:29] previous line: from aptdaemon.gtkwidgets import (AptErrorDialog, [18:29] http://pastebin.com/d31175105 [18:29] it should point to the linux-headers for that kernel, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4-generic [18:29] oldude67, ok [18:30] sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4.generic/ build [18:30] then... [18:30] errr [18:31] 2.6.31-4-generic/ build that should read [18:31] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 2009-07-28 12:30 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4.generic/ [18:31] yup [18:31] then... [18:32] oh no [18:32] sudo rm build [18:32] 4.generic is wrong [18:32] should be 4-generic [18:33] ok so how do i fix that? [18:34] sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4-generic/ build [18:34] sudo rm build first [18:35] /lib/modules/2.6.31-2-generic$ sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-4-generic/ build [18:35] ln: creating symbolic link `build': File exists [18:35] k [18:35] um after doing all of this its telling me to reboot should i do that now? [18:35] sudo /etc/init.d/dkms_autoinstaller start 2.6.31-4-generic [18:36] should build your vbox modules [18:36] yeah it is [18:37] anything else or reboot now and crossfingers..lmao [18:38] reboot [18:38] k brb...:D === WelshDragon is now known as Fluffles [18:52] high [19:04] low [19:07] I installed alpha3 and kept my /home partition. I cant the old data now as its encrypted, anyone got any suggestions or document how to unencrypt this? [19:08] My auto hiding side panel won't unhide in kubuntu! When I mouse over it, I just see a tiny sliver of it, like it's empty, and can't click on it or configure it or anything! [19:08] stefanlsd, how have you encrypted home? [19:08] this after I rebooted btw...I just made my bottom panel autohide and it's working fine [19:10] kklimonda, well, my current home is not the problem. Before i installed karmic, i did a mv of /home/stefan to /home/stefan.upgrade. Then karmic installed. so /home/stefan/.Private on /home/stefan type ecryptfs. Which is fine. I need /home/stefan.upgrade which is encypted... [19:12] why is it encrypted? [19:12] stefanlsd, was stefan.upgrade also encrypted using ecryptfs ? [19:12] ohhh nevermind i read that wrong [19:13] hi people [19:13] kklimonda, yeah, must of been :) was default jaunty option... [19:13] ive been trying to use karmic since alpha 2, but my wireless network card is not working [19:13] it is a 3945abg nic from intel [19:13] stefanlsd, when you create ecryptfs store you get a key and an information that you should keep it safe [19:13] is there any solution as of now? [19:14] kroson, searching forums would be a good start [19:14] it's called mount passphrase [19:14] id really like to use this version because of the kernel [19:14] billybigrigger: no luck xD [19:14] kklimonda, i am pretty sure i know the passphrase i entered... is it possible to decrypt with that alone, or do i need the other stuff also? [19:15] kroson, not much knowledge of wireless here [19:15] but is it listed in lspci and is the module loaded? [19:16] hmm im not with ubuntu now, but i think yes [19:16] My intel 3945 works fine in Karmic. [19:17] stefanlsd, one way or another (either /home was encrypted using ecryptfs or the other option - frankly I haven't done it in years) passphrase itself isn't enough [19:17] Pici: have you installed some different driver than the default? [19:17] and how long has it been working? [19:17] kroson: Nope. its using the iwl3945 module. [19:17] kklimonda, k. thanks. I did a rsync before installing, so i still have the data. (thankfully!) [19:17] stefanlsd, then you are one lucky son of a @#$% ;} [19:17] kroson: Forever. [19:17] Pici: how long has it been working? and 32 or 64-bit? [19:17] kroson: 32bit. [19:18] kklimonda, hehe. yeah! [19:18] did it work by default? it is strange [19:18] kroson: Yep. This was an upgrade from Jaunty though. [19:19] i remember doing an upgrade from jaunty, it broke the wireless as well [19:20] its weird that nobody has this problem at the forums, it may be a specific hardware issue [19:20] at jaunty it worked very well [19:21] DanaG: oh, update-manager crashes? I think I know what the problem is ... [19:21] For me, I had to install the python aptdaemon gtk interface. [19:22] DanaG: yeah, the auto-detection code for that is b0rken :/ it tests for aptd, but not the python bindings [19:27] DanaG: fixed in bzr [19:27] Cool. [19:28] Nice, so doing that aptdaemon thing gives a different authentication UI. [19:29]